Oct 21, 2024 Work Session

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WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 21ST, 2024 WORK SESSION FOR THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. MOVING ON TO CONSIDER THE

[ CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA Council may ask for discussion or further information on any item posted in the consent agenda of the next Regular Meeting. Council may also ask that an item on the consent agenda be pulled and considered for a vote separate from the consent agenda at the next Regular Meeting. All discussions or deliberations are limited to posted agenda items and may not include new or unposted subject matter.]

[1. Regional Stormwater Management Program Interlocal Agreement Council is requested to consider authorizing the City Manager to enter into an Interlocal Agreement (ILA) with North Central Texas Council of Governments (NCTCOG) for the Regional Stormwater Management Program (RSMP). Unless directed otherwise, this item will be placed on the November 4, 2024 Regular Meeting agenda.]

[2. Consider the 2025 City Council Calendar Council is requested to consider the proposed 2025 City Council calendar and provide direction to staff. Unless directed otherwise, this item will be placed on the November 4, 2024 Regular Meeting agenda. ]

[3. Introduction of a New Director Council will be introduced to Amber Thompson, the new Director of Environmental Compliance.]

WHO'S GOING TO DO THIS. THERE YOU. THERE'S MISTY. WELL, COME ON DOWN. HELLO. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US COME TONIGHT. SO, AMBER THOMPSON IS OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE. SHE IS NOT NEW TO THE CITY. SHE'S BEEN HERE ALMOST TWO YEARS AGAIN. WE ACTUALLY STOLE HER BACK, SO SHE HER HISTORY WITH US. SHE STARTED IN ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH BACK IN 2011 AND THEN WORKED FOR US UNTIL 2018. AND THEN PLANO STOLE HER. FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND THEN SHE WENT TO THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATIO. AND WHEN I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO COME BACK TO HEALTH, WE STOLE HER BACK. SO, SO WITH ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE, SHE WILL BE DEALING WITH A STORMWATER ILLICIT DISCHARGE, INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL COMPLIANC.

AND THEN MOST OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE HOMELESS TASK FORCE THAT SHE IS NOW ALSO TAKING ON AS A PRIMARY INITIATIVE. AND THAT IS THE REASON FOR HER ATTIRE TODAY, BECAUSE TODAY WAS THE FIRST DAY BACK WORKING ON THAT. SO VERY GOOD. WELL, WELCOME. IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US, WE WILL. VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. AND YES, MONDAYS ARE CLEAN UP DAYS, SO YOU'LL OFTEN SEE ME IN THIS PROBABLY EVERY DAY, BUT EASY TO FIND ME.

BUT YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE? I'M AN OPEN BOOK, SO WHATEVER Y'ALL NEED. ALL RIGHT.

HANG ON ONE SECOND. HERE, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. HELLO. WELCOME. WELCOME TO GARDEN. I SAW YOU OUT FRONT WITH THAT BRIGHT YELLOW SHIRT ON, AND I SAID, WHO'S THAT? WHO'S THAT? SO WELCOME. WELCOME HERE. YOU MENTIONED HOMELESS TASK FORCE. WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TASK FORCE? ARE YOU WORKING WITH THEM? CAN YOU EXPLAIN BRIEFLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN THAT AREA? SURE. SO MY FOCUS IS ON ACTUALLY IF YOU CAN SPIN THAT MICROPHONE AROUND TO YOU A LITTLE BIT. THERE WE GO. IS THAT BETTER? PERFECT. OKAY. SO MY FOCUS IS ON THE CLEANUP PART OF THE IMPACT THAT THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS HAVE ON THE ENVIRONMENT. SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY WITH THE, THE OFFICERS THAT ARE HOMELESS LIAISONS EVERY SINGLE DAY, BUT I AM IN CONTACT WITH THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY. I'LL BE WHERE ALL THE COMPLAINTS COME INTO THAT ARE NON CRIMINAL RELATED COMPLAINTS REGARDING ENCAMPMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I HELP SCHEDULE AND COORDINATE THE CLEANUPS. I'LL BE THERE AT THE CLEANUPS IN KIND OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE CAPACITY, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALSO COMPLYING WITH, YOU KNOW, RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW REGARDING STORMWATER. I'M GOING TO BE KIND OF PART OF DALLAS KIND OF HELPING JUST BORDERING, YOU KNOW, OTHER BORDER CITIES. SO WE CAN ALL FOCUS ON THE SAME, YOU KNOW, INITIATIVE TOGETHER. I LIKE THAT. WELCOME AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. VERY GOOD. WELL, WITH THAT, I'M SURE YOU'VE PROBABLY HAD A VERY LONG DAY. AND SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US. THIS EVENING. YEP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR. CITYWIDE WORKFORCE RECRUITMENT,

[4. Citywide Workforce Recruitment, Advancement & Outreach Update Staff will present current initiatives related to Citywide Workforce Recruitment, Advancement & Outreach for discussion and feedback. This item was requested by Councilmember Williams, and Mayor LeMay announced that it would be brought forth at a future Work Session on July 15, 2024.]

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ONE THING I DID WANT TO POINT OUT, AND COUNCILMAN OTTE SENT ME AN EMAIL YESTERDAY, IS, AS WE'RE SHOWING THE CENSUS DEMOGRAPHICS, THEY MAY NOT TOTAL 100%. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE CENSUS PULLS THE REPRESENTATION. TWO OR MORE RACES. THERE MAY BE PEOPLE REPRESENTED MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE CENSUS DEMOGRAPHICS, BUT FOR THOSE LARGER POPULATIONS, IT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THOSE DATA POINTS. SO AGAIN SHOWING THE GARLAND COMMUNITY HOW IT'S EVOLVING OVER TIME AS WELL AS OUR DFW METRO AREA OUTSIDE OF JUST DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU KNOW, ETHNICITY, DEMOGRAPHICS, THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES, OTHER FACTORS THAT COME INTO PLAY WHEN A COMMUNITY AND A WORKFORCE EVOLVES, INCLUDING AGE AND GENDER, SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, MANY THINGS, LANGUAGES, LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND I LIKE TO USE THE TERM OF MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. AND IN ORDER TO MEET OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CUSTOMERS WHERE THEY ARE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT IS ABLE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. JUST A FEW ADDITIONAL FACTS BEFORE I JUMP INTO OUR INTERNAL EFFORTS. THE DFW AREA IS GROWING. IF YOU CAN'T TELL BY ANYTHING, YOU CAN TELL BY THE TRAFFIC. BUT SINCE 2000, MORE THAN 100,000 JOBS HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE METROPLEX, AND A LOT OF THAT MIGRATION REPRESENTS INTERNATIONAL MIGRATION TO OUR METROPLEX, WHICH AGAIN, BRINGS A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY FOCUS,

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THE WAY THAT I REALLY DESCRIBE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS AND METRICS, YOU KNOW, ON A CHART. IT REALLY IS ABOUT DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE AND PERSPECTIVES. WHEN YOU HAVE A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE AROUND THE TABLE, YOU KNOW, MORE IDEAS, YOU KNOW, GENERATE MORE IDEAS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTS ITSELF IN MANY WAYS IN THE ORGANIZATION, EQUITY IN POLICY AND PRACTICE AND POSITION, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE EVALUATING AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT REALLY ANYTHING THAT IMPACTS OUR WORKFORCE AND THEN INCLUSION VIA VOICE AND OPPORTUNITY AND ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURE. A SHARED DURING THE BUDGET PRESENTATION, JUST YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THE CITY MANAGER HAS COME IN TO KIND OF BUILD THIS TEAM GARLAND CULTURE AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MANY, MANY, MANY DIRECTIONS THAT THAT COULD GO IN TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A MORE COHESIVE AND SUSTAINABLE WORKFORCE. ALL RIGHT. GENERATING SPONSORSHIP AND ENSURING SUSTAINABILITY. SO JUST LIKE ANY OTHER INITIATIVE, IF THERE'S NO MONEY FOR IT AND THERE'S NO FOCUS ONT, IT IT IT GOES AWAY. AND SO IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I KNOW SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, EACH YEAR THERE'S BEEN AN INCREMENTAL INCREASE IN OUR INVESTMENTS AROUND BOTH RECRUITING AND RETENTION, INVESTING IN JOB AGGREGATORS THAT PUSH OUR JOBS OUT TO MANY DIFFERENT DIVERSITY JOB BOARDS. WE'VE EVALUATED A LOT OF AREAS OF THE ORGANIZATION, INCLUDING CIVIL SERVICE TESTING, THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING THAT, YOU SEE NEW PROGRAMS LIKE STUDENT AMBASSADORS, ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS. SO AND THAT HAS ALL BEEN POSSIBLE WITH SUPPORT OF CITY LEADERSHIP AND OF COURSE, FUNDING FROM COUNCIL. SO I'M GOING TO JUMP AHEAD A LITTLE BIT, JUST SHOWING SOME OF THE PICTURES OF THE OUTREACH OF OUR TEAM. ONE OF OUR INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS CIRCA, WHICH IS IF YOU'VE IF YOU'VE LOOKED FOR A JOB IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO GO TO SOCIAL MEDIA OR A JOB BOARD TO GET A JOB, LIKE THERE'S NO APPLICATION TO GO FILL OUT ANYMORE. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE IN MAKING SURE THAT OUR JOBS ARE PUSHED OUT AND WIDENING THAT NET. AND VISIBLE TO AS MANY, YOU KNOW, QUALIFIED CANDIDATES AS POSSIBLE. SO CIRCA IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT. IT IS A PASSIVE TOOL, MEANING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON IT. BUT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE POSTING ON THE CITY'S JOB BOARD IS ALSO BEING PUSHED OUT TO HUNDREDS OF DIVERSITY AND JOB BOARDS THAT SUPPORT MINORITS, VETERANS, INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES AND SO ON. AND SO HAVING THOSE KINDS OF TOOLS WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND HELPS TO KEEP THIS, YOU KNOW, A PRIORITY AND AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE D DOING. AL, CIVIL SERVICE FOCUSED RECRUITMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION THAT TYPICALLY IS RECRUITED WITH POLICE AND FIREFIGHTER TYPE POSITIONS, FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THEMSELVES AND SEE OUR JOBS AS OPPORTUNITIES. SO MAKING SURE THAT ANY OF OUR BRANDING, ANYTHING THAT WE'RE PUSHING OUT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO FOR EVERY, YOU KNOW, FIRE ENTRANCE EXAM OR POLICE ENTRANCE EXAM, WE ARE PUSHING THOSE OUT TO DIVERSITY JOB BOARDS AND PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THE RIGHT REPRESENTATION. I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT STUDENT AMBASSADORS. I THINK YOU ALL ARE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROGRAM. IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND THE BENEFIT OF THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS LIKE STUDENT AMBASSADOR AND PROJECT SEARCH IS IT ONE? IT READIES OUR WORKFORCE. MEANING IF YOU ARE INTRODUCING DIFFERENCES, I'M INTRODUCING, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER EMPLOYEES. I'M INTRODUCING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. WE'RE INTRODUCING, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT READIES THE WORKFORCE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT AND SUSTAIN THOSE EMPLOYEES AS THEY ARE JOINING OUR ORGANIZATION. BUT IT ALSO STARTS TO PLANT SEEDS OF THE CITY OF GARLAND BEING AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR STUDENTS, THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING AND GROWING FROM WITHIN THE CIT. ALL RIGHT. TAKING DELIBERATE ACTION AT ALL PATHWAYS TO EMPLOYMENT. SO THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO TRY TO HELP MOVE THE NEEDLE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND EVOLVE AS AN ORGANIZATION. SO ENTRY FOR GENERAL EMPLOYEES. SO ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT RECENTLY OCCURRED, WELL, I'M SORRY, IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG DAY. SO THE FACT THAT I'M EVEN SAYING WORDS IS MIRACULOUS. SO PLEASE FORGIVE M.

THIS IS REGARDING BACKGROUND CHECKS. SO THIS IS NOT NEW. THAT'S THE CORRECTION. OH THANK

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SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD, EXCUSE ME, VERY SOUND PRACTICES FOR ANY OF OUR PRE-EMPLOYMENT SCREENING. SO I WORKED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY WAY THAT WE WERE EVALUATING SOMEONE THAT WOULD REMOVE THEM FROM CONSIDERATION FOR EMPLOYMENT, THAT THERE WAS A VERY SPECIFIC PROCESS FOR THAT, THAT THERE WAS DIALOG WITH THAT APPLICANT BEFORE THEY WERE CONSIDERED INELIGIBLE. AND STILL TO THIS DAY, BEFORE ANYONE IS DENIED EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY BECAUSE OF A BACKGROUND ISSUE, THOSE COME ACROSS MY DESK. SO, YOU KNOW, VERY TIGHT PARAMETERS FOR EVALUATING THAT. BUT WHAT IS A NEWER CHANGE IS A REDUCTION. SO AT ONE POINT THE CITY WAS DOING DRUG SCREENING FOR 100% OF ANYONE THAT WORKS AT THE CITY, WHETHER IT WAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY A BONA FIDE JOB REQUIREMENT OR NOT. AND THAT HAS SINCE BEEN REDUCED TO ABOUT 20% FOR PRE-HIRE DRUG SCREENING. AND NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE NOT A SAFE AND SECURE ORGANIZATION, BUT THERE IS A DISCUSSION THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, A DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING CURRENT BEST SAFETY AND SECURITY SENSITIVE POSITIONS REQUIRE PRE-HIRE DRUG SCREENING. SO ANYBODY THAT'S IN A JOB THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATE DANGER IF THEY WERE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OR COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE HARM. BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF BLANKET POLICIES FOR ANY OF OUR PRE-EMPLOYMENT UNLESS THERE'S A REGULATORY REQUIREMENT TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. I'VE ALSO MENTIONED FAIR CHANCE HIRING INITIATIVES. THOSE ARE COMING UP IN Q1 FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR, BUT BASICALLY ALLOWING FOR CERTAIN POSITIONS. A GOOD EXAMPLE IS OUR SANITATION HELPER, OUR LANDFILL SPOTTERS, HAVING REDUCED PRE-EMPLOYMENT SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE POSITIONS. AND THEY ARE THE WILL BE THE INITIAL PILOTS, BUT WE WILL BE REVIEWING THAT FOR ADDITIONAL JOBS AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO THOSE I DON'T WANT TO SAY RELAXED BUT REDUCED PRE-EMPLOYMENT SCREENING OPTIONS, THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HIRED INTO OUR FAIR CHANCE POSITIONS WILL ALSO BE OFFERED FREE TRAINING, FREE GED PREPARATION AND SO ON. SO JUST AGAIN, TRYING TO CREATE PATHWAYS ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION, WE ALSO HAVE FOR OUR DIRECTOR LEVEL POSITIONS, WE HAVE PAID PROMOTIONS FOR DIVERSITY JOB BOARDS AND PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS FOR THOSE POSITIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST AT THE ENTRY POINT, BUT AS PEOPLE PROGRESS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION WHERE OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES, THAT WE ARE CASTING AS WIDE A NET AS POSSIBLE. AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF AN ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT, WHICH AGAIN, WAS INCREASED THIS CURRENT BUDGET YEAR TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE AND DEVELOP FROM WITHIN. SO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT DOOR IS OPEN AND ENTRY, MAKING SURE THERE'S SUPPORT AND INVESTMENT AS PEOPLE PROGRESS IN THEIR CAREERS AND BEING VERY DELIBERATE ABOUT THE INVESTMENT AS PEOPLE ARE MOVED INTO LEADERSHIP OR OTHER POSITIONS. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT MAKEUP OF OUR DIRECTOR AND ABOVE POSITIONS. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT IS OVER TIME WITH ADVANCEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY DELIBERATE EFFORT SEEING YOU KNOW, THOSE DYNAMICICS IN TE ORGANIZATION AT EVERY LEVEL CHANGE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL ASPECTS ARE ARE REFLECTED, COMMUNITY OR OTHERWISE. I'LL PAUSE TO JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I JUMP INTO CIVIL SERVICE. I HAVE NO ONE IN THE QUEUE. OKAY, I DO HAVE SOMEONE IN THE QUEUE. MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE EXPLANATIONS SO FAR REALLY SHED A LOT OF LIGHT ON SOME OF MAYBE WHAT PEOPLE MAY SAY OR CRITICISMS AS IT RELATES TO THE STATS IN THE WAY OF HOW OUR EMPLOYMENT LAYOUT IS MADE. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT ONE THING THAT YOU'VE JUST EXPLAINED AS IT RELATES TO TENURE, 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS, IT REALLY DOES EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCES IN THE WAY OF THESE NUMBERS. SO I JUST WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL SAY TO YOU, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THAT IS REALLY SHED A LOT OF LIGHT ON HOW THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS TOOL IS BEING USED. AND JUST KEEP UP THAT GOOD WORK.

JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK THERE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

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OKAY. SO NEXT I WANT TO JUST CHAT ABOUT CIVIL SERVICE. SO AGAIN I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW. BUT OUR CIVIL SERVICE HIRING FOR BOTH POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS IS GOVERNED UNDER STATE REGULATIONS. SO CHAPTER 143, YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD BEFORE, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT IS STANDARDIZED TESTING AND THAT STANDARDIZED TESTING IS REQUIRED BOTH AT HIRE AND FOR ANY PROMOTION. AND SO THERE ARE STRICT REQUIREMENTS ON THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR POLICE OFFICERS. AND FIREFIGHTERS. THE CHIEFS DO NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THESE ARBITRARY DECISIONS TO BE ABLE TO SAY, I'M GOING TO SKIP YOU AND, YOU KNOW, PICK YOU. IT'S VERY STRUCTURED.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS TYPE OF MODEL, IT DEFINITELY FAVORS THOSE THAT CAN TEST WELL, TO BE HONEST. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T EVEN BEGIN WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO PASS A TEST AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.

AND THAT LOOKS THE SAME WITH PROMOTION. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME GREAT LEADERSHIP WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS, BUT IT IS STRUCTURED AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE ENTRY AND LEADERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. ADDITION TO 143, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL STATUTES, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, THE AGE OF APPLICANTS, WHAT THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORY DISQUALIFICATIONS MAY BE, WHAT TYPE OF DISCHARGE FROM THE MILITARY AND SO ON. SO AGAIN, IT'S WE DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY WITH POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS AS FLUIDLY AS WE CAN IN OTHER AREAS OF THE ORGANIZATION. BUT THERE ARE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, AND WE HAVE TACKLED THOSE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. SO THE FIRST ONE WAS REPLACEMENT OF BOTH OUR FIRE AND POLICE ENTRANCE EXAMS. AND SO OUR EXAMS WERE VERY OUTDATED. THEY WERE OLD. AND WHAT WE SAW A LOT OF TIMES IS THAT OUR CANDIDATES WERE GOING TO OTHER CITIES AND TESTING. THOSE CITIES HAVE VERY SIMILAR TESTS. SO IF I, YOU KNOW, SPEND WEEKS STUDYING, THEN I COULD GO AND TAKE, YOU KNOW, 3 OR 4 TESTS AT OTHER CITIES. AND I'M WELL PREPARED. AND THEN THEY COME TO GARLAND AND THERE'S A CLOSED TEST THAT KIND OF NOBODY ELSE WAS GIVING. AND SO WE IN LED BY THE CHIEFS FOR SURE, BOTH CHIEF BRYAN AND CHIEF LEE, BOTH OF THOSE TESTS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE TEST THAT WE CURRENTLY GIVE VERY SIMILAR, IF NOT THE SAME AS OTHER TESTING AGENCIES, BUT WE ALSO INVESTED IN TEST PREP MATERIALS THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR FREE TO ANY OF THE APPLICANTS THAT WANT TO DOWNLOAD THAT, SO THAT PEOPLE COME IN THE DOOR WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND A BETTER, BETTER PREPARED. IT ALSO GIVES THEM TIPS AND TRICKS ON HOW TO TAKE THE TEST SO THAT THEY'RE NOT WALKING IN BLINDLY. AND WE'VE ALSO INCREASED OUR TESTING FREQUENCY BOTH WITH POLICE AND FIRE. AND FOR POLICE, EXPANDED FOR LATERAL OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BRING IN MORE EXPERIENCED PERSONNEL. WE HAVE A ROTATIONAL OR EARLY HIRE PROGRAM FOR POLICE. SO IF THEY GET A CANDIDATE THAT PASSES AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T LOSE THEM TO ANOTHER AGENCY, THEY'RE ABLE TO BRING THEM IN IN A NON CIVIL SERVICE POSITION UNTIL AN ACADEMY STARTS. BECAUSE WE WERE COMPETING WITH OTHER CITIES THAT HAD ACADEMIES MORE FREQUENTLY AND THEN JUST REVIEWING EVERY STEP AT EACH PATHWAY TO EMPLOYMENT THAT I'LL DISCUSS. OUR RECRUITERS AND I WANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE OFFICER HURST AS

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YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE THOSE EACH YEAR AND THEN JUST EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT GARLAND IS SEEN NOT JUST AS A DESTINATION OR A PLACE TO COME AND BUILD YOUR FAMILY, BUT ALSO A GREAT PLACE TO COME AND WORK AND BUILD A CAREER. THAT THAT'S THE MESSAGE. OTHER WAYS THAT THE COUNCIL CAN SUPPORT IS MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ENCOURAGE CAREERS IN PUBLIC SERVICE ON YOUR PLATFORMS, SHARING ANY OF OUR EMPLOYMENT POSTINGS LIKE REPOSTING THEM ON YOUR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR ENTRANCE EXAMS, AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, KEEPING THE CONVERSATION GOING. IF THERE'S ORGANIZATIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, JUST LOOKING AT OUR WORKFORCE, WHAT DO WE WANT TO BE AS GARLAND AS AN EMPLOYER

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THANK YOU. GREAT INFORMATION. WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AS FOR THE WRAP UP. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SIR. GARLAND IS MOVING FORWARD FROM FROM AS I REMEMBER IT BEFORE WE WERE TO WHERE WE ARE TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO. I JUST GREAT JOB. I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ONE QUESTION WHAT'S YOUR STRATEGY FOR ADDRESSING? I THINK IT WAS 62%, 62% OF THE APPLICANTS WHO DON'T COMPLETE THE TESTING FOR CIVIL SERVICE, CIVIL SERVICE, WHAT WHAT CAN WE DO TO CLOSE THAT GAP AND, AND LOSE NOT SO MANY PEOPLE IN THAT THAT AREA? I WILL BECAUSE THE PROCESS IS ONCE THEY TEST, THEY KIND OF LEAVE MY AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY AND THEN THEY GO TO THE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW CHIEF LEE IS HERE AS WELL. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING WITH APPLICANTS IN THE PROCESS? AND I WILL ALSO, SINCE CHIEF RYAN COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S A FOLLOW UP QUESTION THAT HE CAN ADDRESS AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WELCOME, CHIEF. GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU ALL TODAY? I'M GOOD. GOOD. MR. SMITH HAS DONE A REMARKABLE JOB, NOT ONLY WITH THE PRESENTATION, BUT WITH ALL THE INFORMATION CONTAINED WITHIN IT HELPING US EXPAND OUR RECRUITING EFFORTS AND GETTING THE RIGHT APPLICANTS TO SHOW UP. NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND, THE QUESTION WAS HOW THE ONES THAT ARE NOT PASSING THE WRITTEN EXAM, IS THAT CORRECT? NO. THE ONES THAT ARE NOT COMPLETING THEIR THE PROCESS, THE BACKGROUND PACKAGE BACKGROUND. AND SHE SAID WE WOULD WE THEY'RE WASHING OUT. THEY'RE LOSING OUT. YES, SIR. WHAT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO TO, TO, TO NARROW THAT GAP? WE TOOK A PAGE FROM ACTUALLY CHIEF BATES BOOK. I'M GOING TO THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS OVER THERE. GOLLY. PROBABLY 6 OR 7 YEARS AGO, MITCH, I WENT TO HIM AND ASKED HOW HE WAS HANDLING THE BACKGROUND PACKETS AND HE POINTED OUT, NOBODY GETS TOSSED UNTIL HE MAKES THE DECISION TO TOSS OR NOT TOSS. SO WE'VE INCORPORATED THAT IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. AND SO ORIGINALLY A CONVICTION OR AN ARREST CONVICTION OR AN ADMITTANCE OF A CLASS A OR CLASS B MISDEMEANOR WAS AN AUTOMATIC DISQUALIFIER. I SAID NOT ANYMORE. EACH OF THOSE IS A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO ON THOSE SCENARIOS, OUR B BACKGROUN INVESTIGATORS GET ALL THE INFORMATION THEY COME TO ME WITH A STACK OF FILES, AND WE GO THROUGH THEM ONE AT A TIME. WE'RE VERY DELIBERATE THAT THERE'S NO IDENTIFIERS FOR THE FIRE CHIEF TO KNOW WHO THIS CANDIDATE IS, WHAT THIS CANDIDATE REPRESENTS, OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT IS TOTALLY BLIND TO ME. THEY SAY THIS, THIS CANDIDATE, NOT EVEN THIS GUY, THIS SQUIRREL, IT'S THIS CANDIDATE HAS BEEN ARRESTED FOR.

I'M JUST GOING TO THROW A RANDOM ONE OUT THERE, NOT ARRESTED, BUT ADMITS TO THE USE OF ADDERALL THAT WAS NOT PRESCRIBED FOR THEM. MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHEN WAS IT? WHAT WAS THE CIRCUMSTANCE, HOW OLD WERE THEY AND HOW ARE THEY? HOW OLD ARE THEY TODAY? WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS TIME AND DISTANCE. IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THEY DID IN COLLEGE TO STUDY FOR AN EXAM, IT'S NOT AS CRITICAL TO ME UNLESS IT WAS YESTERDAY. IF IT WAS SOME TIME AGO, WE'VE GOT SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN IT. AS SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM KNOW, MEDICATIONS OR ILLEGAL STREET DRUGS KNOWN AS ECS BACK IN THE DAY WAS NOT AN ILLEGAL USE DRUG. TODAY IT IS. BUT THERE'S MANY THINGS LIKE THAT THAT COME DOWN THE PIPELINE, THE USE OF MARIJUANA. IT USED TO BE A THREE YEAR EXCLUSION. WE REDUCED THAT TO 12 MONTHS D WE WANT TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR GOOD JUDGMENT. WE WANT TO SEE THAT THEY HAVE OUTGROWN THEIR LACK OF IMPULSE CONTROL, THAT IF THEY DID SOMETHING AT THE AGE OF 15 AND THEY'VE ADMITTED TO IT, GOLLY, I'M GLAD THEY WEREN'T SUCH GOOD BACKGROUND CHECKS WHEN I GOT IN THIS BUSINESS. OKAY? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT. PEOPLE DO THINGS AT 15 THAT THEY WOULDN'T EVEN CONSIDER AT 20, 22, 24, 25 YEARS OF AGE. SO WE TRY TO TAKE ALL OF THAT AND LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE OF THIS CANDIDATE AND

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WE'VE SEEN MARIJUANA USE IN THE LAST MONTH. WE'VE SEEN THE HISTORY OF FAMILY VIOLENCE.

WE'VE SEEN ADMITTING TO DRIVING DRUNK A WEEK AGO. WE'VE SEEN ARRESTS FOR DWI SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, WE'VE SEEN DISHONORABLE DISCHARGES FROM FROM THE MILITARY THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OCCUPATION POLICE OR FIRE THAT WHEN YOU PULL UP TO A SCENE, THERE'S A FAMILY STANDING IN THE FRONT YARD AND THE FRONT DOOR STANDING WIDE OPEN, WHETHER IT'S A $15 TENT OR A $15 MILLION HOME, THEY WANT YOU TO GO IN THERE AND TAKE CARE OF THEIR STUFF, WHATEVER THEIR STUFF IS.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING THE ABSOLUTE BEST CANDIDATES KNOWN TO MANKIND TO GO THROUGH THAT DOOR AND COME BACK OUT WITH EVERYTHING THAT THEY BROUGHT IN AND ANYTHING THAT DOES COME OUT WITH THEM GOES DIRECTLY TO THE HOMEOWNER. SO WE'RE WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

WE'RE GETTING REALLY GOOD CANDIDATES TO COME OUT FOR OUR TESTING. I WISH OUR SUCCESS RATE ON THE WRITTEN EXAM WAS 100%, AND I WISH THAT OF THE 600 PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP, WE HAD THE CAPACITY TO MOVE ALL 600 OF THEM FORWARD, BUT WE ONLY MOVED 250 FORWARD TO THE PHYSICAL. FROM THERE, IT GOT US DOWN. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER WAS. LET'S SAY WE HAD 40 OR 50 FAILED. THE PHYSICAL ABILITY THAT PUSHED THEM INTO THE BACKGROUND PACKETS. A LOT OF THOSE GUYS READ THE BACKGROUND PACKET AND THEY'RE LIKE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HIRE ME. THEY THEY ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER AND THEY JUST DON'TVEN TURN IT IN. OTHERS TURN IT IN ON A HOPE AND A PRAYER. WE DID POLYGRAPHS LAST WEEK AND I THINK WE LOST AROUND TEN OR SO TO THE POLYGRAPH BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THEY PUT IN THEIR POLYGRAPH PACKET DID NOT MATCH WHAT THEY PUT IN THEIR BACKGROUND PACKET. AND WE LOOK AT THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ANSWERED THE SAME WAY ON BOTH. IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, WE HAVE THE POLYGRAPHER INVESTIGATE. WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE ON ON THESE PACKETS. SO IT'S A LONG, ARDUOUS PROCESS. THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CULTURE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS BEING RECOGNIZED, AND WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT EXCLUDING CANDIDATES BECAUSE THEY DID SOMETHING REALLY DUMB A LONG TIME AGO. NOW, FELONY CONVICTION. THERE'S NOT A LOT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. IT'S THEY'RE THEY ARE GOING TO BE DISQUALIFIED BY THE STATE AS WELL. SO WE DO EXCLUDE CONVICTED FELONS MOVING FORWARD. BUT WE'VE GOT A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATES OUT THERE. WE GOT GOT A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE. WE BIG BACKGROUNDS ON 100 AND SOMETHING OF 70 OF THOSE WERE SLATED TO GO TO THE POLYGRAPH. OF THAT, WE'RE PROBABLY DOWN TO 50, 50 TO 60. AND WE'RE PLANNING TO HIRE ABOUT 24. SO GETTING REALLY SCARED BECAUSE WE GOT THE PANEL NEXT AND THE ORAL PANEL, WE PUT A COUPLE OF CIVILIANS ON THE ORAL PANEL. WE'VE GOT KARINA OLIVAREZ AS PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER. SHE SITS ON THE PANEL. AND JOHNNY WALKER, MANY OF YOU KNOW JOHNNY FROM THE MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION. SHE ALSO SITS ON OUR PANEL. SO FOR A WEEK, THEY'RE SITTING THERE WHILE WE INTERVIEW. THEY ASK QUESTIONS. THEY INTERACT WITH THE CANDIDATES, AND THAT'S MULTI-PURPOSE. ONE IS SO THAT THE COMMUNITY'S GOT SOME OWNERSHIP IN THERE.

FIREFIGHTERS. WE WANT THIS COMMUNITY TO HELP US PICK THE RIGHT CANDIDATES. SO AND THEN FROM THERE THEY COME TO THE FIRE CHIEF, AND THE FIRE CHIEF SITS DOWN AND LOOKS AT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PACKET ONE MORE TIME, HAS A CONVERSATION WITH THEM, CHECKS THEIR MOTIVATIONS FOR THE JOB, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS THE BEST FIT FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. AND VERY FEW GET KICKED OUT OF MY PROCESS, BUT OCCASIONALLY IT'LL BE 1 OR 2 THAT MADE IT THAT FAR, BUT DON'T NEED TO GO ANY FURTHER. THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR PRETTY MUCH, CHIEF. THANK YOU, MAYOR, VERY GOOD. AND I'M SURE SOME OF THEM SELF DISQUALIFIED JUST PURELY BY THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCES.

SOMETIMES I'M GUESSING MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR. AND I WANT TO ECHO THAT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU'RE BEING PURPOSEFUL IN ATTEMPTING TO BRING ABOUT THIS DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION AS IT RELATES TO OUR R STAFFING. SO F, I'VE HEARD A GREAT DEAL. AND LET ME SAY THIS TOO, THAT AND IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS MEETING, BUT I JUST WANT TO BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE AIR. I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR OUR PUBLIC THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE, IT'S NOT JUST THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE TODAY. I THINK IT HAS A GREAT DEAL TO DO WITH THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE AND THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAVE. JUST WHEN YOU SIT THERE AND YOU TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE BEING PURPOSEFUL IN ATTEMPTING TO ACHIEVE THE EQUITY, EQUALITY OF HIRING PRACTICES, I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY TO YOU, FIRST OF ALL THAT,

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OKAY. SO IT'S NOT BY OCCUPATION, BUT IT IS BY DEPARTMENT OKAY. SO THAT INFORMATION IS THERE FOR REFERENCE AND YOU WILL BE MAKING THAT AVAILABLE TO US. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN YOUR PACKET. YEAH.

VERY GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AND CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. HI.

SO THERE'S A PRETTY LARGE GAP IN THE ETHNIC REPRESENTATION OF EXAMINEES VERSUS SWORN CIVIL SERVANTS. AND FIRE. AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT YOUR WHAT YOUR IDEAS ARE TO KIND OF MOVE THAT NEEDLE BECAUSE ONE OF ACTUALLY THE MOST SURPRISING ONES TO ME WAS THAT THERE WERE, I THINK, 10% OF THE EXAMINEES WERE IN THE OTHER CATEGORY. SO THAT'S A THAT'S QUITE I DON'T USUALLY SEE THE OTHER THE OTHER PIE PIECE THAT LARGE. SO WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK CAN OCCUR THAT WILL KIND OF CLOSE THOSE GAPS A LITTLE BIT MORE? I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE THIS IS A REALLY LONG PROCESS AND YOU'RE NOT PICKING PEOPLE BASED ON RACE, WHICH I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE PICKING PEOPLE BASED ON MERIT. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. BUT TO HAVE MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A REPRESENTATIVE EMPLOYEE. I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT CHIEF, BUT CAN I WOULD YOU MIND? ABSOLUTELY. SO THE FOR THE EXAMINEES, THE OTHER CATEGORY IS LARGER THAN YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE BECAUSE IT'S OPTIONAL.

RIGHT. AND SO THAT PART OF THAT LARGER PERCENTAGE IS BECAUSE PEOPLE CHOSE NOT TO ANSWER. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER PIECE OF THE PIE. CHIEF CAN SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO FIRE, BUT WHAT I WILL, YOU KNOW, J JUT STRESS AGAIN THAT ALMOST EVERY YEAR IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN VERY DELIBERATE ABOUT INVESTMENTS IN CIVIL SERVICE TESTING, ESPECIALLY ON GETTING THINGS PUSHED OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ADVERTISING AT, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS. WE SEND OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS TO HUNDREDS OF SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE FIRE SERVICE OR ANY RELATED PROGRAM. AND SO THEY'RE THE, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME AND I SEE IT AGAIN, I STAND THERE JUST KIND OF OBSERVING WHO'S SHOWING UP. I KNOW THAT EACH YEAR THE APPLICANTS LOOK MORE DIVERSE. IT'S JUST IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME. AND THESE ARE TWO, YOU KNOW, VERY MALE DOMINATED POSITIONS. JUST IT IS THE WAY THAT IT IS. BUT THERE ARE DEFINITELY IT'S ETHNIC DIVERSITY AS WELL AS GENDER DIVERSITY THAT SHOWS UP FOR THOSE EXAMS. AND I'M ALSO STANDING THERE SAYING, HEY, ARE YOU TESTING ANYWHERE ELSE? THANKS FOR COMING TO OUR TEST. YOU KNOW HOW MANY TESTS HAVE YOU TAKEN? SO I KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE TESTING ALL OVER THE PLACE IN ADDITION TO OUR EXAMS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. I HAVE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, 114 MEMBERS WITH 20 YEARS OF TENURE OR GREATER. UNDERSTOOD. I THINK THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT. THE BIGGEST PART ACTUALLY, AND ALSO PUBLIC SECTOR JOBS ARE REALLY DIFFICULT TO FILL. IT'S HARD TO ATTRACT ANYONE TO ANY KIND OF GOVERNMENT JOB. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO. AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? AND ONE THING, KRISTEN, YOU MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF MAKING THIS AN ANNUAL UPDATE. I 100% AGREE. AND I WOULD YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS IN OCTOBER. NOW, I WOULD SAY NEXT OCTOBER. AND THE FOLLOWING OCTOBER, I THINK THAT IS I THINK THAT IS A GREAT, GREAT IDEA. AND IT JUST IT KEEPS IT FOREFRONT SO THAT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. OKAY. ALL

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[5. Pavement Condition Study Update Council is requested to consider an update on the pavement condition study findings and results, and provide discussion and direction.]

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BUT FOR PAVEMENT MANAGERS WE SEE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT. YEAH THERE'S CRACKS THERE. BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE MORE INTERESTED IN THE WHY. BECAUSE CRACKS DO HAPPEN FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

AND SO THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DETERMINE THE WHY. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT OF COURSE IS THE HOW THE HOW BEING HOW ARE WE GOING TO TREAT IT AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO MITIGATE FOR THAT? I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A CONTEXT ON THE OCI, WHICH, YOU KNOW, RANGES FROM 100 FOR A BRAND NEW PAVEMENT OR A PAVEMENT THAT'S BEEN IN SERVICE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ZERO, REPRESENTING A TOTALLY FAILED PAVEMENT. WE ARE SHOWING THESE RANGES HERE TO TRY TO PROVIDE SOME INTUITIVE DESCRIPTION FOR EACH ONE OF THESE OCI RANGES. WE USUALLY CITE EXCELLENT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FAILED. AND I KNOW FAILED IS A IS A STRONG WORD, BUT IT'S A REPRESENTATIVE WORD IN SOME CASES, WHICH IS WHY WE CHOOSE TO USE IT. SO THESE PICTURES REALLY KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, PARTICULARLY BETWEEN EXCELLENT AND FAIL, BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE ON WHAT'S EXCELLENT PAVEMENT AND WHAT'S FAILED PAVEMENT. SO MOVING IN TO SOME OF THE RESULTS THIS IS REALLY SHOWING THE BIG PICTURE OF WHERE OUR NETWORK STANDS TODAY. YOU MAY RECALL WHEN WE CAME BEFORE YOU IN JUNE, WE PRESENTED THAT STREET OCI, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS RIGHT AT 70 AND 71. THAT HAS NOT REALLY CHANGED, BUT WE'VE ADDED THE ALLEY OCI. YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S QUITE LOW AND I DO HAVE A CHART LATER IN HERE THAT I HOPE WILL EXPLAIN WHY IT'S SO LOW. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NETWORK COMPOSITE, IT IS A WEIGHTED IT'S A WEIGHTED SCORE. SO YOUR STREETS THAT HAVE MORE PAVEMENT, SUCH AS ARTERIALS, GET A GREATER WEIGHT THAN THE ALLEYS DO. AND I THINK YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THAT MAKES SENSE, THAT YOU DON'T WANT AN ALLEY TO BE DRIVING THAT SCORE WHEN IT'S REALLY JUST A 9 OR 10 FOOT WIDE PAVEMENT. SO THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NETWORK, IT ONLY DROPPED BY ONE POINT WHEN WE ADDED THE ALLEYS, THE ALLEYS REPRESENT 12% ON AVERAGE OF THE NETWORK. AND THEN THERE ARE ONLY NINE FEET WIDE. AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE OVERALL COMPOSITE IS A 70, WHICH PUTS US ON THE SCALE OF OVERALL, THE SCALE OF GOOD TO FAIR. I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THAT THESE ASSESSMENTS ARE TYPICALLY DONE IN EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS. IT REALLY IS AN AGENCY DECISION ON HOW FREQUENTLY YOU WANT TO DO THEM, BUT YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO GO BEYOND FIVE YEARS. RECALLING THAT WHEN WE DO THESE PAVEMENT INSPECTIONS, IT IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME THAT PAVEMENT CONTINUES TO DETERIORATE. OUR BUDGET SCENARIOS THAT WE'VE RUN TODAY ARE BASED, THAT WE'VE RUN ARE BASED ON FIVE YEARS. SO THIS CHART IS INTENDED TO DENOTE THE VARIOUS FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS OF PAVEMENT THAT WE MANAGE HERE IN THE CITY, AND THOSE ASSOCIATED CENTERLINE MILES AND LANE MILES OF PAVEMENT. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY IS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE NETWORK FOR EACH ONE OF THESE FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS. AND THIS PERCENTAGE IS BASED ON THE LANE MILES AND NOT THE CENTERLINE MILES. YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NO SURPRISE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS REPRESENT ALMOST 50% OF THE ENTIRE NETWORK, FOLLOWED BY THE ARTERIALS AT 23%. I MENTIONED THE ALLEYS ARE ABOUT 12% OF THE NETWORK, AS ARE THE COLLECTOR STREETS, AND THEN THE INDUSTRIAL STREETS ARE BRINGING UP THE REAR AT ABOUT 4%. WE ARE PROVIDING HERE THE OCI SCORES

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YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRIBUTION THERE BETWEEN THE POOR, FAIR AND THE GOOD, AND IT'S ALMOST EQUIVALENT. SO ABOUT 90% OF THE ASPHALT PAVEMENT IS IN THAT GOOD TO POOR RANGE. AND THEN FINALLY THE COMPOSITE SECTION REPRESENTING THE ASPHALT OVERLAY, YOU'LL SEE THAT OVER 50% OF THE ASPHALT OVERLAY PAVEMENT IS ACTUALLY IN GOOD CONDITION. AND THAT DIDN'T REALLY SURPRISE ME BECAUSE WE STARTED THIS ASPHALT OVERLAY. AS I UNDERSTAND IT PREDATES ME. BUT WE STARTED THE ASPHALT OVERLAY PROGRAM IN THE LAST TEN OR SO YEARS. SO IF YOU CONSIDER THAT AN ASPHALT OVERLAY WILL AT LEAST GIVE YOU TEN YEARS OF ADDITIONAL SERVICE LIFE, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT, ASPHALT OVERLAY PAVEMENT THAT'S IN GOOD SHAPE.

SO HERE'S A CHART THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT RELATED TO THE TREATMENTS THAT WE APPLY BAS ON WHERE THAT PAVEMENT SECTION IS RATED. AND IT'S OCI. KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE GUIDELINES. YOU COULD REALISTICALLY HAVE. IF WE LOOK AT THE POOR SECTION, WHICH WE MIGHT DO AN ASPHALT OVERLAY OR A PARTIAL RECONSTRUCTION, IF WE GO OUT TO THAT SITE, WE COULD REALISTICALLY SEE THAT THAT VEMENT MAY BE RATED AT 35. BUT WHEN WE'RE ON THE GROUND, IT ACTUALLY QUALIFIES FOR A RECONSTRUCTION THAT REALLY A PARTIAL RECONSTRUCTION WON'T HELP IT. ASPHALT OVERLAY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE UNLESS THERE'S NOTHING ELSE WE CAN DO, AND WE'RE JUST APPLYING THAT BRIDGING TECHNIQUE. SO IT REALLY DEPENDS. BUT TYPICALLY WE APPLY THESE TREATMENTS BASED ON THESE CATEGORIES. BUT JUST UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES IT DOES CHANGE. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET ON THE SITES AND REVIEW. AND THAT'S WHAT WITH WITH THESE OUTPUTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE SCENARIOS. IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO AND VISIT EACH ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS. THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE SYSTEM TO VALIDATE WHAT THE SYSTEM IS PRODUCING. WE THINK, AND IN WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT, TYPICALLY WITH THESE SCENARIOS, IT WILAT LEAST GET YOU ABOUT 80% THERE. WE DON'T WANT TO PLUG AND PLAY. WE WANT TO DEFINITELY VALIDATE WHAT THE SYSTEM IS PRODUCING TO ENSURE THAT IT MAKES SENSE. AND AGAIN, THIS WHOLE PROCESS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IS SEMI-AUTOMATIC. IT'S NOT A PERFECT PROCESS, BUT IT IS A PROCESS AND IT'S A STANDARDIZED METHOD. AND THAT FURTHER UNDERSCORES WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO VISIT THE SITES. I THINK THIS SLIDE, AS WE'RE MOVING INTO THE SCENARIOS, THIS SLIDE ENCAPSULATE, ENCAPSULATES THE IMPORTANCE OF PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT. AND THESE ARE REALLY THE FOUR CONCEPTS

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APPLYING THE RIGHT TREATMENT AT THE RIGHT TIME TO THE RIGHT ROAD. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY FROM THE FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, SINCE MONEY IS NOT UNLIMITED, WE WANT TO TRY TO GET THE MOST OUT OF THOSE FINANCES, AS WE CERTAINLY CAN. AND THAT REALLY DOES TIE BACK TO THE RIGHT TREATMENT AT THE RIGHT TIME. APPLYING THAT TREATMENT WHEN IT'S CHEAPER VERSUS ALLOWING THAT PAVEMENT TO DETERIORATE TO THAT NEXT LEVEL WHERE IT'S GOING TO COST MORE TO TREAT IT. IF YOU DON'T TACKLE IT ON THE FRONT END. AND THEN LASTLY IS THE DATA PIECE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. THESE OCI SCORES, BOTH AT A STREET SEGMENT LEVEL AS WELL AS AT A NETWORK LEVEL. AND ALL THESE FEED INTO THE MODEL. AND THAT KIND OF TRANSITIONS ME TO THE NEXT SLIDE. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON CONSIDERATIONS. THESE ARE NOT ALL INCLUSIVE, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE MAIN CONSIDERATIONS THAT GO INTO THE MODEL. SOME OF THEM ARE BAKED IN, OTHERS ARE INPUTS INTO THE MODEL. IN ORDER TO GET THOSE OUTPUTS. AND I DO WANT TO LEAD IN BY INDICATING THAT THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT INPUTS, MANY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. YOU COULD COME UP WITH AND THEN OBVIOUSLY GET A DIFFERENT OUTPUT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT, WHAT IS IT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW THAT THAT COULD BE LIKE THIS. SO WE HAD TO NARROW IT DOWN. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAD JUST A FEW SCENARIOS IN OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES. SO OBVIOUSLY THE OCI IS AN IMPORTANT INPUT. THE CONSTRUCTION COST THAT RELATES TO THE SPECIFIC TREATMENTS THAT WE APPLY TO THE ROADWAYS, THAT'S THAT SLIDE THAT I SHOWED YOU A FEW SLIDES AGO. AND WE ALSO BAKE IN AN INFLATION FACTOR OF 5% ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IN CONNECTION WITH THOSE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. OBVIOUSLY, PAVEMENT DETERIORATION THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THIS. AND YOU MAY RECALL MY REFERENCE IN IN THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THIS CRITICAL PCI. IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL CONCRETE STREET THAT IS, SAY, IN THE OCI RANGE OF 60 TO 70, WELL, WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT CRITICAL PCI IS WITHIN THAT RANGE. AND THE SYSTEM LOOKS AT THAT BECAUSE THE CRITICAL PCI IS THE THREAT OF MOVING TO THAT NEXT LEVEL OF DETERIORATION. SO TYPICALLY IT'S GOING TO PICK UP ANYTHING. LET'S SAY 63 IS THE CRITICAL PCI WITHIN THAT RANGE. IT'S GOING TO PRIORITIZE ANY PCI OCI THAT ARE AT 63, 62, 61, 60 BEFORE IT GETS TO 59, WHICH IS THAT NEXT LEVEL OF DETERIORATIO. SO A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THIS MODEL, PAVEMENT SURFACE TYPE DOES PLAY A ROLE IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZATION. THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE USER CAN SET WHETHER YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE ASPHALT OR PRIORITIZE CONCRETE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE MODEL PRODUCES. AND THEN THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS BASICALLY YOUR BACKLOG AND BACKLOG IS ESSENTIALLY WHATEVER YOU DIDN'T TREAT THIS YEAR, YOU TREAT IT THIS AMOUNT, YOU LEFT THIS AMOUNT UNTREATED. THAT'S YOUR BACKLOG. WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THAT WORK THERE? THAT'S LEFT AND THAT'S CALLED DEFERRED MAINTENANCE MAINTENANCE AS WELL. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE TREATMENT TYPES WHICH TIE BACK AGAIN TO THE CONSTRUCTION COST. SO THIS SLIDE IS RECAPPING WHAT YOU SAW IN AN EARLIER SLIDE REGARDING THAT. THE COMPOSITION OF THE NETWORK AND THEN THOSE CORRESPONDING OCI BASED ON FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION. BUT THIS SLIDE IS MORE SO THE LEAD IN TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDED TARGETED GOALS. KEEPING IN MIND I SAID THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS OR THERE ARE MANY WAYS YOU CAN FEED DATA INTO HERE TO GET AN OUTPUT. BUT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN APPROACH THE MODEL. IT'S EITHER TARGET BASED. OKAY, I WANT TO GET TO AN 80 THAT'S TARGET BASED OR IT IS BUDGET BASED, WHICH MEANS I HAVE SAY $30 MILLION A YEAR. WHAT WILL BE THE OCI WITH THAT PARTICULAR BUDGET? SO THOSE ARE THE TWO WAYS YOU CAN APPROACH THOSE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT YOU FEED INTO THE MODEL. SO WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND I GUESS BEFORE I GET INTO THE RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE'S ANOTHER THING I NEED TO INDICATE AS WELL REGARDING I GUESS RECAP IS WITH THAT NETWORK OCI, AS I THINK I SAID EARLIER, IT'S WEIGHTED. SO IF YOU'RE AT A 70THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOUR ARTERIALS ARE 70, YOUR COLLECTORS ARE 70, YOUR

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SO WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS TO LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THE CLASSIFICATIONS AND THEN SET A TARGET FOR EACH CLASSIFICATION BASED ON WHERE THE EXISTING OCI SCORES ARE TODAYI'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE ALLEYS BECAUSE THOSE APPEAR TO BE BASED ON THE DATA, WHERE WE NEED TO CERTAINLY CATCH UP. AND OBVIOUSLY ON THE INDUSTRIALS AND COLLECTORS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE COMPARE THOSE TO THE ARTERIALS SCORE, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME CATCH UP ON THAT AS WELL. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT CONTEXT THAT THAT'S HOW WE APPROACHED IT. AND WE'RE WE'RE RECOMMENDING IT TO THE COUNCIL. SO HERE'S A LIST OF THE SCENARIOS THAT WERE RUN. THE FIRST FOUR ARE WHAT WE CALL THE OUT OF THE BOX SCENARIOS. I THINK WE MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THESE IN JUNE AS WELL. THE FIX ALL. IF WE HAD AN UNLIMITED BUDGET AND APPLYING THE EXCUSE ME, THE RIGHT TREATMENT TO WHATEVER PARTICULAR ROADWAY WITHIN THE CITY, AND WHAT WOULD THAT COST AND WHAT WOULD BE THE CORRESPONDING OCI BASED ON FIXING ALL THE STEADY STATE WOULD BE MAINTAINING THAT 70 OCI, BASICALLY ZERO DEGRADATION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND THEN THE CURRENT BUDGET WOULD BE WE RAN THE FY 24 BUDGET THAT WE HAD ALLOCATED FOR MAINTENANCE, WHICH WAS AROUND $25 MILLION, AND THE OUTPUT OF THAT WOULD BE WHAT IS YOUR OCI SCORE LOOK LIKE IF YOU CONTINUE TO SPEND $25 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND THEN THE DO NOTHING, YOU KNOW, IS BASICALLY WHAT IS YOUR OCI? HOW PRECIPITOUSLY DOES YOUR OCI SCORE FALL IF YOU DON'T SPEND ANOTHER DIME ON PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE, THE ADDITIONAL SCENARIOS WE RAN WAS A NETWORK OCI OF 75. ONCE AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERY FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION WILL BE A 75. IT IS A WEIGHTED AVERAGE. BACK WHEN WE WERE RUNNING THE SCENARIOS, THERE WAS CONVERSATION WITH BUDGET AND THE DEBT MODEL AND DEBT CAPACITY OF POTENTIALLY AN ADDITIONAL $15 MILLION OR $14 MILLION. EXCUSE ME, OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO WE INCLUDED THAT AS WELL AS A AS A SCENARIO.

AND THEN SCENARIO SEVEN, WE BROKE OUT THE ALLEYS THEMSELVES ONCE AGAIN, BECAUSE CLEARLY WE NEED TO CATCH UP ON THE ALLEYS. SO WE WANTED TO RUN A SCENARIO OF HOW DO WE GET FROM THE CURRENT 51 TO A 60. SO INCREASING NINE POINTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? AGAIN, THE OTHER CATCH UP IS THE RESIDENTIALS, WHICH IS SCENARIO NUMBER EIGHT. SO WE RAN A SCENARIO OUT OF CURIOSITY. IF WE WANTED TO GET TO AN 80 WITH OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THEN FINALLY SCENARIO NINE IS SOMEWHAT OF A HYBRID. AND THIS ONE ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THAT JUNE MEETING IN SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OR SUGGESTIONS BY THE COUNCIL.

LET'S LOOK AT ALL THE STREETS THEMSELVES AND IDENTIFY TARGET OCI FOR THEM. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THE ARTERIALS, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST RATED OCI OUT OF THE STREETS ALONE. AND THEN WE WANTED TO LEVEL OUT THE COLLECTORS AND INDUSTRIAL. SO THEY ALL ACHIEVE A 79 OVER FIVE YEARS. AND THEN AGAIN WITH THE RESIDENTIAL SINCE CLEARLY THERE'S A LOT OF WORK ON THAT.

WE TARGETED A 75. WE DIDN'T LEVEL THOSE TO A 79. WE DECIDED TO GO TO A 75 ON THAT. SO ONCE AGAIN, I DIDN'T PLAN TONIGHT TO COVER. I DON'T HAVE SLIDES FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS. I THIS FIRST SCENARIO IS REALLY MORE OF A CONTEXT RELATED TO FIX ALL. IF WE HAD ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD TO BE ABLE TO APPLY THE RIGHT TREATMENT AT THE RIGHT TIME, TO THE RIGHT ROADWAY, IT WOULD BE AT $327 MILLION, BUT IT WOULD RESULT IN A NET 20 POINT INCREASE IN THE OCI. I ALSO BUDGET OF $25 MILLION THAT WENT HAD DEDICATED TO PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE IN FY 24, KEEPING IN MIND THE CITYWIDE NETWORK BEING A 70. IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE ON THAT TRACK OF INVESTING $25 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE OCI SCORE REDUCES BY FOUR POINTS IN YEAR FIVE. THIS COLUMN ALSO, I'M SORRY, THE LAST COLUMN SHOWS THAT BACKLOG THAT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT I TALKED ABOUT AND USUALLY YOU WANT TO SEE YOUR BACKLOG DECREASING OVER TIME BECAUSE THAT TELLS YOU YOU'RE MAKING PROGRESS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ACHIEVING BETTER PAVEMENT

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AND IN TERMS OF THE OUTPUTS FROM THE SCENARIO, THIS THIS INVOLVES EVERY TREATMENT FROM EVERY TREATMENT THAT APPLIES TO ALLEYS, FROM CRACK SEALING, PARTIAL RECONSTRUCTION, PANEL REPAIRS AS WELL AS RECONSTRUCTION, FULL RECONSTRUCTION. MOVING INTO SCENARIO NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS THAT THAT HYBRID OPTION, I PULLED OUT THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS INTENTIONALLY AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE NEED TO IN STAFF'S OPINION, TO CATCH UP ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS, INCREASING THAT OCI FROM THE CURRENT 69 TO A 75. SO SIX POINTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WILL COST AN ESTIMATED $107 MILLION. AND ON THIS SLIDE, I WANT TO FIRST TALK ABOUT THE MATRIX IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER. I DIDN'T IDENTIFY SPECIFIC SLIDES FOR THE FOR THE COLLECTORS AND THE ARTERIALS AND INDUSTRIALS, BUT I DID SUMMARIZE THEM HERE IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT FIVE YEAR BUDGET WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THOSE PARTICULAR FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS. THE ARTERIALS, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT 79, WHICH WE'RE USING AS A BENCHMARK FOR THOSE OTHER STREETS, WE NEED TO INVEST $21 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THE COLLECTORS IS RIGHT AROUND $18 MILLION IN ORDER TO GET THOSE FROM THAT 72 TO A 79. KEEPING IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY COMPRISE A LESSER COMPOSITION OF THE ENTIRE NETWORK. SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S LESS INVESTMENT NEEDED IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, TO GET GET THOSE SEVEN POINTS. THE INDUSTRIALS AGAIN, IT'S THE SMALLEST COMPOSITION OF OUR NETWORK. AND WE HAVE AN INVESTMENT OF $4 MILLION TO RAISE THAT THAT OCI FIVE POINTS. AND THEN FINALLY THE ALLEYS WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT IN A PREVIOUS SLIDE TO RAISE THAT BY NINE POINTS, WOULD COST AN ESTIMATED $57 MILLION. SO I'VE ROLLED ALL OF THAT INFORMATION UP INTO THE TOP MATRIX AND SHOWING YOU WHAT THE STREETS TO ALLEYS, ALLOCATIONS PER FISCAL YEAR EQUALS, AND THEN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE AN OVERALL NETWORK OCI OF A 77 IS ABOUT $207 MILLION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WE SHOULD ALL JUST TAKE A MINUTE, MAYBE STEP OUTSIDE. YEAH. I MEAN, I I'M SITTING HERE, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THIS COUNCIL THAT THE FIX ALL NUMBER WAS 100 MILLION. IT'S GROWN SIGNIFINTLY IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING. GOSH, YES IT HAS. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND START HERE.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, LOOK. OKA. DO YOU HAVE A HEAT MAP OF THE OCI NUMBERS FOR THE WHOLE CITY? LIKE BASICALLY SHOWING US WHERE THE RED IS AND WHERE THE GREEN IS? I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PRODUCED. OKAY. YES, WE CAN PRODUCE THAT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH. I'D LIKIKE TO SEE THAT. WHAT MAKES A STREET A COLLECTOR? IS IT THE NUMBER OF

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AND THEN THE ARTERIALS, THEN THE FREEWAYS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET ONTO A FREEWAY. SO YOU'LL TYPICALLY SEE A COLLECTOR, IT COULD BE UP TO FOUR LANES UNDIVIDED, BUT SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE IT AS TWO LANES, ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND THEN THE TWO WAY LEFT TURN IN THE CENTER. SO LIKE SATURN, YEAH, SATURN IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE. EXACTLY. WE'LL FIGURE. OKAY. IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOWER THE COST OF REPLACEMENT TOTAL REPLACEMENT BY DECREASING THE WIDTH OF A STREE.

ARE YOU SAYING IN A RECONSTRUCTION SCENARIO? WELL, IN THE STREET DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, OUR FOCUS IS ON RESIDENTIAL RECONSTRUCTION. WE TYPICALLY DON'T RECONSTRUCT ARTERIALS OR COLLECTORS TYPICALLY. NO. I MEAN, FOR RESIDENTIAL, I WOULD RESPOND PROBABLY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. JUST BASED ON SOME OF MY OBSERVATIONS WITH THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW SOME OF THE STREETS ARE AT 30FT WIDE, AND THAT'S PRETTY NARROW. AND WHEN YOU HAVE CARS PARKING ON EITHER SIDE, IT MAKES IT CHALLENGING, SAY, FOR A SANITATION TRUCK TO ACCESS THAT.

SO I GUESS THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, YOU CAN REDUCE THE COST BY REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE ROADWAY, BUT I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT, PARTICULARLY FOR RESIDENTIAL STREETS BASED ON THE WIDTH OF THEM. OKAY, MAYBE SOMETHING TO DISCUSS WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PERSON. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER HEDRIC, THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE I MEAN THAT NUMBER OTHER SCENARIOS THAT YOU RAN AND MAYBE DIDN'T MENTION. AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE BACKLOG AS WELL, BECAUSE IN THAT RECOMMENDATION, YOU DIDN'T MENTION THE BACKLOG OF IS DECREASING OR NOT. SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. YES. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THE LAST MINUTE, IF I CAN BE PERFECTLY HONEST, THAT I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT ON THE SLIDE. SO I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY GET THEM TO YOU THAT THAT IS MY BAD. NO, THAT'S FINE. AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM. AND OF COURSE I'D LOVE TO SEE THE HEAT MAP. I KNOW PREVIOUSLY WE HAD PIECES IN A GIS FORMAT WHERE YOU COULD CLICK ON CERTAIN STREET IN THE CITY, AND IT WOULD POP UP WITH A LIST OF THAT, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT AS WELL. THAT WAS HELPFUL FOR ME, AT LEAST WHEN I GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT SOMEONE'S STREET OR ALLEY AND I COULD PULL UP THE INFORMATION AND HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. I RECALL YOU ASKING ABOUT THAT IN THE LAST MEETING, AND WE ARE WORKING TO GET THAT ONTO THE WEBSITE. SO TO MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, ALL FOR PUTTING COLLECT IN EASY TO ACCESS AND VIEW FORMAT. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. THANK YOU. AND WHAT'S REFLECTING NOW ON THAT? IS THE OLD INFORMATION CORRECT. THIS THE NEW EVALUATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN UPLOADED. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS OUT IN THTHE WORLD, F THEY CLICK ON THAT UNDER MY GARLAND OR WHATEVER, THAT. OKAY.

VERY GOOD. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, OF COURSE, THE HEAT MAP. COULD YOU INCLUDE A HEAT MAP TO SHOW THE ALLEYS? SURE. OKAY. DO DO YOU WANT THEM? DO YOU WANT STREETS SEPARATE FROM ALLEYS? YES, YES. SINCE SINCE YOU. THE TWO I THINK WILL WILL REALLY OVERLAP EACH OTHER. YEAH.

OKAY. YES. SURE. YEAH, YEAH. THE PURPLE AND YOU KNOW, ALSO DO YOU HAVE. OUT OF THIS WHAT WE HAVE SPENT. HOW HAS THAT CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE WITH WHERE WE WERE WITH WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHERE ARE WE GOING? HOW HAS WHAT WE HAVE INVESTED WITH THE NUMBERS? BUT WHAT DIFFERENCE HAS THAT MADE? DO YOU HAVE ANY ANY WAY YOU COULD YOU COULD LOOK DO A LOOK BACK SNAPSHOT. PARTICULARLY ON RESIDENTIALS AND ALLEYS. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT? IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN

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BECAUSE YOU COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M NOT. IF I'M WRONG. I THINK YOU'RE SAYING ALLEYS AT 69. I THINK I REMEMBER THAT 5151 OH THAT'S WORSE. RIGHT. YES. OKAY. SO WHAT DID WE INVEST IN ALLEYS AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHERE THEY WHERE WERE THEY THEN? WHERE ARE THEY NOW? 41 AND WHAT IS OUR GOAL? YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M TRYING TO CONNECT. IF OUR ALLEYS WERE THERE, THEY WERE AT THE 41. WERE THEY AT 39? OKAY. WERE THEY AT 36, 31. OKAY. I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING. I DON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS TODAY, BUT AGAIN, I'LL CAUTION YOU THAT IT IS BASED ON THE WINDSHIELD VIEW, THE VISUAL SURVEYS. BUT AGAIN, IT WILL GIVE YOU A BENCHMARK AT LEAST FROM WHICH TO SEE BASED ON THE LEGACY METHOD, HOW WE IMPROVED. I WILL SAY TO YOU ON THE ALLEYS, THOUGH, JUST BASED ON WHERE WE KNOW WE ARE WITH THE SEMI-AUTOMATIC PROCESS AND THE FACT THAT WHAT I'VE BEEN INFORMED, BEEN INFORMED BY THE TEAM, AT LEAST FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS OR SO, WE'VE BEEN INVESTING THREE, TWO AND A HALF TO $3 MILLION ON ALLEY RECONSTRUCTION. SO IT PROBABLY HASN'T MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT BASED ON WHERE WE ARE. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT ANALYSIS AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL. AND WHERE HAVE WE MADE THOSE INVESTMENTS IN THE CITY VARIOUS LOCATIONS? I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHERE TODAY, BUT THEY'VE BEEN IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. OKAY. BASED ON THOSE PREVIOUS SCORES, BASED ON BASED ON THE PREVIOUS SCORES, RIGHT? RIGHT. PREVIOUS SCORES. YES, SIR. SO IT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION. WHAT. ALLEYS FIRST. WELL, IT'LL ACTUALLY BE ALLEYS AND RESIDENTIAL STREETS. OKAY, WE'LL PUT IT PUT THEM TOGETHER. YES, IT'LL IT'LL BE ALL OF, ALL OF THIS ON THIS SLIDE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. NEXT FIVE YEARS. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF YOU CAN PULL ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH. AND, I MEAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS SPECIFICALLY, BUT I WANT TO SAY UNFORTUNATELY, BOTH WITH ALLEYS AND RESIDENTIALS, WE HAVE LOST GROUND. I MEAN, THE HISTORICALLY, I THINK THE ALLEYS WERE IN THE UPPER 50S, CLOSE TO 60 RESIDENTIALS WERE MAYBE MID 70S, I THINK IS YOU KNOW, AND WITH THE, WITH THE BUDGETARY INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE, THEY DID START TO THEY HAD TICKED UP A COUPLE OF POINTS GIVE OR TAKE. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'VE WE'VE STARTED LOSING GROUND ON THAT AGAIN. AND, AND THE, THE, THE FOCUS OF THE PREVIOUS PROGRAMING WAS WEIGHTED HEAVILY AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL REPAIRS ON THE GROUND REPLACEMENTS WAS WEIGHTED MUCH HEAVIER. WE'VE DONE MUCH MORE WORK ON THE ARTERIALS, THE BROADWAYS, THE CENTERVILLE'S, THE ET CETERA, ET CETERA. BEFORE WE EVEN VENTURED INTO NEIGHBORHOOD REPLACEMENT AND WE AND THEN OBVIOUSLY DOWN THE LINE TO ALLEYS. BUT WE HAVE DONE ACTUALLY I'M YOU KNOW, I WAS YOU WOULD THINK THAT OUR ARTERIAL SCORES WOULD BE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THEY ARE CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF WORK WE'VE PUT INTO ARTERIALS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT OF ARTERIALS, BUT THAT IS, THAT IS THAT HAS BEEN THE PRIMARY FOCUS PREVIOUSLY.

ANYWAY, COUNCILMEMBER BEARD, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND STREETS. AND I'VE HAD CONSTITUENTS CALL ME RECENTLY. MY STREET IS HORRIBLE. WELL HORRIBLE TO ONE PERSON IS NOT SO BAD TO ANOTHER. SO THIS HELPS ME UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER. PLUS THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. BECAUSE WE JUST HAD FOUR STREETS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GET AN ASPHALT OVERLAY. SO WE ARE THRILLED. AND THEY WERE DONE ONE STREET A DAY FOR FOUR DAYS. YAY. SO AND TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT

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BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS I'M JUST THIS MAKES SENSE TO ME. WHERE BEFORE IT DIDN'T SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. AND MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AS I LOOK AT THE NUMBER AND THIS, IT APPEARS TO BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR 1.5 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO BRING US TO A OCI OF 77 ACROSS THE BOARD. IT WOULD APPEAR CORRECT. THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVTO TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER TO ANSWER, BUT NOW WE OUR BUDGET IS RIGHT AT 25 MILLION PRESENTLY. AND IF WE CONTINUE 25 MILLION, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO DETERIORATE. WE'RE GOING TO LOSE GROUND CONTINUALLY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. BUT IN THIS FY 25, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE THAN $25 MILLION ALLOCATED. THE COUNCIL APPROVED A BIT MORE MONEY. OKAY. SO THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED ANOTHER, WHAT, 40 MILLION IN ORDER TO MEET THIS SCENARIO PER YEAR? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE 25? WELL, LET'S TAKE FY 25 FOR EXAMPLE. WE HAVE ON THE ORDER OF $35 MILLION. THAT'S ALLOCATED TO PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, ABOUT 35. SO WE'RE ALMOST BREAKING EVEN IN FY 25 NOW. IN FUTURE YEARS, THOSE ARE STILL BEING MODELED BY THE BUDGET OFFICE. SO I KNOW WHERE I STAND TODAY WITH FY 25, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BALANCE IF WE WERE TO TAKE THIS PLAN, THAT'S THAT'S BEEN OUTPUT BY THE BY THE SOFTWARE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IT IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. BUT IT'S THE SUBSEQUENT FISCAL YEARS THAT THE DECISIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE ON. OKAY. BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. YES. AND SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS THEN I WOULD TURN AROUND AND SAY, IS MR. CITY MANAGER, HOW WOULD YOU GIVE US A SCENARIO AS TO HOW WE MIGHT MEET THIS TYPE OF NEED? AND ONE THING, OKAY, SO I JUST HAD A LITTLE SIDEBAR. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. BECAUSE I'D LIKE FOR CITY MANAGER TO SORT OF WRAP THIS UP.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. ALL RIGHT.

CITY MANAGER. SO YOU'RE WONDERING HOW TO PAY FOR THIS. WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM, SIR. SO THE BUDGET OFFICE OR IN OUR, OUR CFO AND BUDGET FOLKS HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH TONY AND CRYSTAL ON THIS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CAN AFFORD. IF YOU RECALL, BACK IN JUNE WHEN WE HAD SOME LONG TERM DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OUR LONG TERM FUNDING AND OUR LONG TERM DEBT CAPACITY, WE HAD SET ASIDE IN THE DEBT MODEL A ESSENTIALLY A PLACEHOLDER FOR STREETS FUNDING. WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO NEED MORE. WE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH. WE KNEW THAT WE NEEDED TO DEDICATE SOME TO AN UPCOMING BOND PROGRAM. WE NEED TO FINISH THE EXISTING BOND PROGRAM. SO WE MODELED ALL OF THAT AND FEEEEL REASONABLY.

ACTUALLY, WE FEEL VERY GOOD THAT THIS NUMBER IS WITHIN WHAT WE HAD SET ASIDE FOR STREETS IN THAT LONG TERM DEBT MODEL. SO NOW THE EXACT NUMBERS AND THE LAYOUT, THE OUTLAY THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE PER YEAR ISN'T EXACTLY HOW WE MODELED IT, BUT THE OVERALL NUMBER IS WITHIN WITHIN OUR TOLERANCE ON THE DEBT MODEL. AND SO WE YOU WOULDN'T BE SEEING THIS IF WE DIDN'T THINK WE COULD AFFORD THIS IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR WHAT OUR FUTURE NEED IS FOR STREETS. HOWEVER, WE. DO THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, IN THE SUBSEQUENT BUDGET YEARS, THIS WILL START TO THIS PLAN WILL START TO COME FORWARD. IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ESSENTIALLY AS WE MOVE COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. MR. CITY MANAGER QUESTION FOR YOU, DOES THIS NUMBER THIS IN EACH YEAR THAT IT DID YOU BUILD IN COST ESCALATION. AND IF SO TONY IS SHAKING HIS HEAD. YES. YES IT IS. YES. IN THESE NUMBERS THERE IS AN ESCALATION OF 5% EVERY YEAR ON THOSE TREATMENT COSTS.

SO IT IS BAKED IN OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU TO FOR YOU FOR COMPILING ALL OF THIS. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW THIS IS THIS IS A NEW SYSTEM TO

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[6. 2025 Bond Study Committee Report City Council will receive an update from staff and the Bond Study Committee Chair regarding discussions and progress of the 2025 Bond Study Committee.]

SO WHILE ANDY'S BRINGING THIS UP, LET ME JUST ADDRESS SOMETHING I SAID TWO WEEKS AGO THAT I WAS IN ERROR, THAT WE HAD NOT TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY PROGRAM THAT WAS AN ERROR. WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT. HOWEVER, IN MY DEFENSE, THAT WAS THE SECOND MEETING ON AUGUST 22ND. IT WAS 60 SLIDES INTO AN 80 SLIDE PRESENTATION, AND WE WERE DRINKING FROM THE FIRE HOSE THAT NIGHT. AND SO I HAD MISREMEMBERED THAT. AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR REMINDING ME THAT WE DID TALK ABOUT IT. AND SHOWED SOME OF THE WONDERFUL PROJECTS THAT PROGRAM HAS DONE. WE DID SEE SOME NEW NUMBERS THIS PAST WEEK WHERE THEY FINALLY PUT SOME NUMBERS ON THESE PROJECTS AND HAVE ALLOCATED ENOUGH MONEY TO KEEP THAT PROGRAM GOING UNTIL THE NEXT BOND STUDY COMMITTEE CONVENES IN 2032. SO I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THE RECORD ON THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. PRESENENTATION I UP. WELL, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. YOU'RE ON A ROLL.

I MIGHT AS WELL JUST LET YOU KEEP KEEP ROLLING. BUT AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, THE BOND COMMITTEE IS MAKING GREAT PROGRESS. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR PATIENCE FOR SOME OF THOSE REALLY DEEP DIVES. BUT YOU'LL SEE HERE KIND OF WHAT'S GRAYED OUT IS WHAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT OR ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR. AND THEN WHAT'S IN BOLD IS WHERE WE'RE HEADED. SO LAST THURSDAY WAS A GREAT DISCUSSION WHERE WE'VE TAKEN THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMITTEE, OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE KIND OF ASSUMED TO BE BAKED INTO THE CATYST AREAS, THE SMALL AREA PLANS THAT GO WITH THAT. AND SO KIMLEY-HORN AND STAFF HAVE BEEN HELPING TO PUT SOME SOME NUMBERS TO THAT, PUTTING THEM IN A KIND OF A MASTER SPREADSHEET AND SEEING WHAT THAT ROLL UP LOOKS LIKE. SO FAR, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF AT A MODEST 360 MILLION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IN TERMS OF JUST ALL THE IDEAS ON THE TABLE. AND THEN STARTING THIS WEEK, WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE DEEPER DIVE IN TRYING TO HELP PRIORITIZE OR PROVIDE SOME SCENARIOS. THE COMMITTEE HAD ASKED US TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM THE STAFF STANDPOINT OF PRIORITIZATION, AND THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF HELP GUIDE GETTING THAT WHITTLED DOWN TO 150 MILLION. AND SO THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT THAT AT FIRST LEVEL. FIRST KIND OF CUT, SO TO SPEAK, IS WHAT IS THAT HIGHEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT. AND THEN LOOKING AT PRIORITIZATION BY AREA AND THEN PRIORITIZATION BY CHARGE BUCKET. ANOTHER WAY THAT MATT WATSON PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION TO THE COMMITTEE WAS, OKAY, THESE THINGS MAY HAVE OTHER FUNDING OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. SHOULD COUNCIL CHOOSE TO USE THOSE TOOLS. HERE'S SOME THAT DO NOT AND MAY FIT BETTER FOR THIS TYPE OF BOND PROGRAM AND GOALS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO THAT'LL BE THE CONVERSATION WE START HAVING IN EARNEST THIS THURSDAY. ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? YEAH, NO, I THINK IT WAS VERY EYE OPENING TO FINALLY GET THE CHART, GET THE NUMBERS, AND THEN THE COLUMN THAT SAID FUNDING SOURCE, OTHER FUND, OTHER POSSIBILITIES TO FUND THIS PROJECT. AND THESE ONES SAID NONE. IT'S LIKE, OKAY GUYS, WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT.

WHICH ARE WE GOING TO DO OR NOT DO? BECAUSE IF WE SAY NONE, IF WE SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT THIS TIME, THOSE ARE 5 TO 7 YEARS IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE PUSHING THAT OFF. AND SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CIP OR COS OR TIFS CAN DO, BUT SOME OF THAT STUFF CANNOT BE DONE OTHER THAN BOND. AND I THINK THAT WAS EYE OPENING TO THE COMMITTEE WHEN THAT KIND OF CAME OUT IN THE MEETING LAST WEEK. SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING REALLY HARD AT THOSE KIND OF AS FIRST PRIORITY TO, CAN WE DO THOSE NOW OR SHOULD THOSE WAIT AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER THAT KIND OF I THINK WE WANT TO BUILD ON SOME OF THE STUFF WE'VE ALREADY DONE. WE'VE ALREADY DONE A WHOLE LOT IN DOWNTOWN. NOW WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE HERE. AND SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? HOW CAN WE BEST SUPPORT

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MATT'S NOT IN HERE, BUT I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT A DEADLINE IN FEBRUARY. THAT'S CRITICAL. YES.

FIRST MEETING IS WAY BETTER THAN SECOND, BUT JUST THE WAY IT FALLS, RIGHTOKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I'VE GOT A FEW. I'VE GOT SOMEBODY QUEUED UP HERE. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, WOULD YOU GO ONE SLIDE BACK ONE SLIDE SLIDE BACK. EXPLAIN TO ME AGAIN TOPICS COVERED. THE ONE THAT ARE IN DARK AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE THAT ARE NOT HIGHLIGHTED.

SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE MEETINGS. SO THOSE ARE AS OUR CALENDAR WAS LAID OUT. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. AND SO THE WHAT'S IN WHAT WHAT IS NEXT. AND THIS JUST BASICALLY AS THE MEETINGS GO. SO WE STARTED OUT AT A HIGH LEVEL TALKING ABOUT THE BOND PROGRAM, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS. WE GAVE AN UPDATE ON THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM. YOU KNOW WHAT WORKED, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS WERE IN THAT BOND, SUCH AS THE ECONOMIC DEDEVELOPMN PROPS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY PROPS, SO THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE? THEN WE STARTED GOING THROUGH EACH OF THE CATALYST AREAS THAT EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH AND INVESTED IN. WE EXPLAINED TIFS.

THEN WE KIND OF STARTED DIVING INTO SPECIFIC PROJECT DETAILS THAT WERE PART OF THE CATALYST AREAS, OR THAT WERE INITIATED BY COUNCIL OR CITY MANAGER TO BRING TO THE TO THE COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION THOSE YOU SEE IN THERE AND THEN THE VERY LAST ONE IS BOND COMMITTEE PROPOSALS.

THOSE WHAT I CALLED FLOOR NOMINATIONS. SO IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY ON THE COMMITTEE THAT HAD AN IDEA THAT THEY WANTED TO BRING THROUGH CHECK AGAINST THE PRIORITIZATION OF THE BUCKETS, THE CHARGE BUCKETS, SO THAT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE THERE. WE'VE GOT ONE MASTER LIST. NOW WE'RE READY TO JUMP INTO THE CRITERIA OF HOW WE'RE JUSTIFYING THOSE PRIORITIES OF POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND HOW HOW IS THE HOW IS THE COMMITTEE GOING TO BRING BACK THE YOU MENTIONED LOOKING AT VARIOUS VARIOUS FUNDING OPTIONS. IS ARE THOSE GOING TO BE APPLIED TO THAT AREA THAT'S NOT SHADED? YES, SIR. SO WE DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WHAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKELY END UP RECOMMENDING FOR THE 150 MILLION ARE GOING TO BE THINGS THAT MEET THOSE, THOSE PRIORITIZATION CHARGES AS WELL AS THINGS THAT MAY NOT HAVE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. OTHER PROJECTS MAY HAVE OTHER OPTIONS, SUCH AS CEOS OR SOME TYPE OF OTHER TIF FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND SO THAT WAY, YES, WE HEAR THAT THESE OTHER PROJECTS ARE A PRIORITY AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS. HOW DO WE POSSIBLY ENTERTAIN HOW THOSE MIGHT BE FUNDED. SO I THINK THAT ANSWERS IT DOES. IT IS THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I SEE NO ONE IN THE QUEUE. SO THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. AND AGAIN I WANT TO REPEAT THAT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE WHOLE COMMITTEE HERE. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU.

[7. Texas Municipal League (TML) Annual Conference Report Per Article II, Division 1, Section 6(E) of the City Council policies, Councilmembers Kris Beard, Ed Moore, B.J. Williams, Margaret Lucht, and Carissa Dutton will report back to the City Council and Mayor on the Texas Municipal League (TML) Annual Conference.]

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THANK YOU SIR. YES, IT WAS INDEED ANOTHER VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING. I FELT THAT IT WAS MUCH MORE GEARED THIS TIME, THOUGH, TOWARD SMALL AND INTERMEDIATE CITIES, IN THAT A LOT OF THE TOPICS TRULY ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY, THEY, THEY MEET OR THAT THEY FACE. FOR US, I REALLY THOUGHT THAT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE HAD TO DO WITH ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR MONEY PRESENTLY, AND I FELT THAT $327 MILLION, IF YOU CAN FIND IT. RIGHT. AND SO I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A PRETTY GOOD ONE BY WAY OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN GO ABOUT LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO ME, I THINTHAT THE NETWORKING THAT TOOK PLACE WHILE THERE WAS MOST OF ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS AND OF COURSE WE HAD A VERY LARGE, WELL, NOT QUITE A FEW OF OUR STAFF WENT ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THAT WAS VERY UNIQUE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER ON A LEVEL A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF JUST THE NORM OF TRUE BUSINESS. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD SESSION FOR US TO ATTEND. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD SIR. AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS, YOU, BEING A LONG TIME A VETERAN OF HTML AS OPPOSED TO COUNCIL MEMBER BEARD BEING A ROOKIE, WHAT DO YOU GOT? TAMALE WAS WAS AN EXCITING TIME THIS TRIP. I'M A VETERAN, BUT I HEARD ONE THING THERE THAT I'M VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN AND GOT MY ATTENTION. AND THAT WAS AI. AND HOW THAT HAS INVADED THE SECTORS OF SMALL CITY GOVERNMENT, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF PROCUREMENT AND PARKS, CULTURAL ARTS AND HOW THOSE AGENCIES ARE USING AI TO ADVANCE THEIR CITIES. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD I TALKED WITH THE CITY MANAGER. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE TRAINING. TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. BUT IT WAS VERY, VERY INTERESTING THAT SESSION.

THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING OUT THAT AND THE SECONDLY, THERE WAS I ATTENDED A SESSION THAT TALKED ABOUT THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY OF PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT THAT IS REARING ITS THAT'S THAT'S REARING ITS HEAD THERE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITIES THAT ARE HAVE PENDING LITIGATION OR LITIGATION IS COMING OR HAVE THEY BEEN THREATENED WITH WITH SOME OF THE SOME OF THE DO'S AND DON'TS AND PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO STAY TUNED. THERE'S SOME THINGS COMING. SO THOSE WERE TWO OF THE MORE INTERESTING SESSIONS. MAYOR. EXCELLENT, SIR. AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. SO THE ONE OF THE FIRST LARGE SESSIONS I ATTENDED WAS CALLED BANKING IN ART. AND I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT BECAUSE OF STAFF, PARTICULARLY OUR CULTURAL ARTS DIRECTOR, AMY ROSENTHAL, WE CHECKED ALMOST EVERY SINGLE BOX THAT THEY PRESENTED AS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD DO AS A CITY IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE ARTS. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR MAKING ART IMPORTANT IN OUR CITY. IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND IT'S JUST WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT WE'VE MADE SO MANY GREAT STRIDES IN THE PAST. I WOULD SAY EVEN THREE YEARS THAT HAVE HAVE JUST REALLY MADE US SHINE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TOOK AWAY FROM THAT WAS THAT IF

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[ ANNOUNCE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS A Councilmember, with a second by another member or the Mayor alone, may ask that an item be placed on a future agenda of the City Council or of a committee of the City Council. No substantive discussion of that item will take place at this time.]

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TO GIVE US TO KIND OF GET THE BALL STARTED OR THE WHATEVER THE BALL STARTED, THE BALL ROLLING, BALL ROLLING. I WAS LIKE, THAT SOUNDS HALF RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THIS EVENING? I SEE NONE, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A PROCESS AFTER THE MEETING. NEXT WE WILL

[ EXECUTIVE SESSION Council will adjourn into executive session pursuant to Sections 551.071, 551.072, and 551.087 of the Texas Government Code.]