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ART

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MNOS IS IN CHARGE.

AND BILL NUN IS

[ NOTICE OF MEETING CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE Work Session Room of City Hall 200 N. Fifth Street Garland, Texas January 17, 2025 1:00 p.m. A meeting of the Animal Services Advisory Committee of the City of Garland, Texas will be held at the aforementioned location, date, and time to discuss and consider the following agenda items.]

THE, IS THE, UH, UH, CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE.

SO, UM, BEFORE WE START, UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY OFF RECORD.

I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT ART HAS DONE FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.

TAKING CARE OF ANIMALS, UH, GIVING ME A BIG SALARY, UH, KEEP KEEPING ME INFORMED.

AND, UM, I, UM, I THINK THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH SEVEN ANIMAL SERVICE DIRECTORS, TWO GARLAND MAYORS, AND, UH, ONE OF THE BEST VETERINARY SEPSIS IN TEXAS RIGHT HERE.

SO NOW, WE'LL, THE MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER.

WE WILL APPROVE.

APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.

EVERYBODY READ THEM? MM-HMM .

SO I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, WHAT'S HER NAME? JOHN.

NEIGHBORS.

HM? MS. NEIGHBORS? MS. NEIGHBORS, YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SAY? I WISH I'D HAVE FELT REALLY GOOD LAST NIGHT AND BROUGHT A TREE.

.

THAT'S, THIS IS MESS.

OH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING? NO.

OKAY.

UM, I JUST GOT A LOT OF FERAL CATS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE ARE FEEDING THEM, AND MY DOGS ARE GOING CRAZY EVERY TIME THEY PASS IN FRONT OF MY WINDOW.

UH, AND I REALIZE I DON'T GUESS THERE'S ANY WAY OF GETTING AROUND HAVING A FERAL CAT.

UM, I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN THAT YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT JUST REALLY, I'VE GOT ONE TOO.

IT'S JUST NOT LOADED.

OKAY.

UM, BUT IF I STARTED FEEDING THEM, IF I STARTED PUTTING FOOD OUT AND I HAVE RESCUE KITTIES, MY NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR BROUGHT IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

AND WHERE DO YOU THINK WHOSE PORCH THEY ENDED UP ON? BECAUSE NOBODY WAS GETTING FOOD OR WATER.

AND I MANAGED TO REHOME THEM AND GET 'EM RESCUED.

SHE WAS ONE OF MY FIRST CLIENTS AT, AT GARLAND VETERINARY CLINIC, FOREST LANE ANIMAL CLINIC.

DR.

DUN AND ANITA.

OKAY.

UM, ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION REVIEW OF SHELTER OPERATIONS, ART MUNOZ, DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL SERVICES, WILL PROVIDE AN UP, AN UPDATE ON SHELTER OPERATIONS, UH, INTERVIEW, INCLUDING A REVIEW OF INTAKE, SURRENDERS, ADOPTION SERVICE CALLS, AND ALL THE, ALL OTHER THINGS THAT MATTER.

ART.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO VISITORS, WE HAD 3,556 CALLS FOR SERVICE.

4,395 CALLS FOR STRAY ANIMALS.

2029.

UH, WE HAD 52 CRUELTY CALLS.

OUT OF THOSE 52 CRUELTY CALLS, WE SEIZED 50 ANIMALS, UH, MINUTES.

AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR PARTY ONE CALLS WAS 23 MINUTES AND 74, UH, LIVE RELEASE RATE, 99.83 ANIMALS RECLAIMED BY THEIR OWNERS.

273 ANIMALS ADOPTED 445.

UH, ANIMALS ADOPTED BY.

YES, SIR.

THE RESPONSE TIME USED TO BE 17 MINUTES.

IT DID.

SO WHAT HAPPENED? UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, SINCE IT WAS AT, UH, 17 MINUTES, WE HAVE, OUR CALLS HAVE INCREASED.

UM, SO WE RESPOND TO ABOUT 18, 19,000 CALLS A YEAR.

AND OUR OFFICERS ARE ACTUALLY DOING A LOT MORE IN THE FIELD WITH THE CALLS.

MAYOR BASS IN CHARGE OF THAT LA MAYOR, WAS SHE? OH, YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE.

.

OKAY.

WHERE AM I? HERE? ANIMALS ADOPTED BY RESCUE GROUPS 346 TNR STERILIZATIONS, 195 SNR STERILIZATIONS.

140 EIGHTS.

DOGS DEEMED DANGEROUS.

WE HAD THREE.

AND ANIMALS MICROCHIPS 796.

UH, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH DOGS DEEMED DANGEROUS? DO YOU SEND THEM THAT BACK IN OR WHAT DO YOU DO? WELL, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS NOW.

SO IF IT IS DOG ON HUMAN, THEN DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION, WE'RE GONNA DEEM THEM THROUGH THE STATE.

AND SO IF YOU DEEM 'EM THROUGH THE STATE, THERE'S CERTAIN, UM, REGULATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY, WHICH IS HAVING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INSURANCE ON THE DOG.

UM, FENCING NEEDS TO BE APPROPRIATE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A, A DANGEROUS DOG SIGN ON THE FENCE AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO REGISTER THE ANIMAL WITH US, AND YOU HAVE PUT YOUR FIRST CHILD UP FOR NOT .

UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE OUR ORDINANCE ON ANIMAL, ON ANIMAL.

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UM, IT'S SOMEWHAT SIMILAR BUT A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

UH, IF WE DEEM 'EM DANGEROUS THROUGH THERE, THERE, THERE IS A, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO REMOVE THE ANIMAL FROM THE CITY.

GOOD.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY? UM, CHRISTIE'S NOT HERE.

WHO'S GONNA DEAL YOU ANIMAL SERVICES? SO I'LL DO THAT.

I'LL STEP IN FOR CHRISTIE NEXT.

OKAY.

SO WE HAD OUR STAFF VOLUNTEER COOKOUT.

SO THE MONTH OF AUGUST WE HAD A 99% LIVE RELEASE RATE.

UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, HAVING A A 99% LIVE RELEASE RATE IN TEXAS IS VERY DIFFICULT AND CHALLENGING.

AND OUR STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS DID A PHENOMENAL JOB TO GET THOSE DOGS OUT.

AND WE CELEBRATED WITH THE COOKOUT.

IT WAS A GOOD TIME.

UM, AND WE HAD, WE HOPE TO DO MORE OF THAT.

UH, SO NEW LEASH ON LIVE PET SEGMENTS.

SO WE PARTNER WITH FOX FOUR.

UM, SO ONCE A MONTH, UH, WE'LL TAKE UP ONE OF OUR LONG-TERM STAY DOGS, UM, AND THEY GET TO BE ON CAMERA THERE AND LIVE IN THE MORNING.

AND, UH, THIS IS KELLY AND SHE'S BEEN ADOPTED.

UM, A DOG.

.

YEAH, KELLY.

SO, UM, BUT NO, A GREAT PROGRAM.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO DO THAT ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH.

GOOD.

YOU KNOW, OUR SCHOOL PRESENTATIONS, UH, HAVE PICKED UP.

SO WE DID A PRESENTATION AT CISNEROS, UH, PRE-KINDERGARTEN SCHOOL.

WE REACHED ABOUT 350 STUDENTS THAT WHERE CHRISTIE SPEAKS ABOUT, UM, JUST BASIC CARE FOR YOUR ANIMALS, WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU SEE AN ANIMAL, UM, HEARTWORMS, I MEAN, ANYTHING RELATED TO ANIMAL CARE OR ANIMAL ISSUES.

WE TRY TO EDUCATE THE YOUTH THE BEST WE CAN.

WHERE IS THIS CIS STATE? KINDERGARTEN? UH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE CIS IS AT.

HEY, DO YOU KNOW WHERE CISNEROS OFF OF? UM, DO YOU SEND HOME STUFF WITH THE KIDS? IS IT KINGSLEY WITH THE PARENTS ON SOME OF THE STUFF YOU'RE TEACHING OR? NO, I THINK CHRISTIE TAKES LIKE FLYERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

IT MIGHT BE OFF OF KINGSLEY, RIGHT? KINGSLEY.

KINGSLEY.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

UH, WE HAD OUR FIRST ADOPTION EVENT AT FORTUNATE SUN PIZZA.

AS YOU ALLALL KNOW, THAT'S A VERY POPULAR PIZZA PLACE HERE IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND.

UM, WE TEAMED UP WITH FRIENDS OF RESCUED ANIMALS ON THAT ONE.

UH, DURING THE FALL BREAK, WE HAD OUR READING TO PETS PROGRAM.

UM, AND THIS IS ALWAYS A GREAT TURNOUT AND THE KIDS ENJOY THIS.

AND SO WE HOPE TO CONTINUE DOING THIS.

WE ALSO HAD OUR ALUMNI DOG SHOW WHERE WE TEAMED UP WITH OPERATION KINDNESS, UH, FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS.

UM, WE ALSO HAD A FREE VACCINE CLINIC THE SAME DAY OF THE ALUMNI DOG SHOW.

AND I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 18 DOGS IN THE, IN THE SHOW.

UH, GREAT TURNOUT, UM, AND JUST HAD A GOOD TIME.

WHERE WAS IT HELD AT? AT OUR ANIMAL SHELTER.

YEP.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE .

YEAH, WE HAVE OUR PET PAINTINGS, UM, FOR HALLOWEEN AND CHRISTMAS, WHERE THE DOGS, UH, THEY, THEY USE PEANUT BUTTER.

THEY PUT IT IN A BAG AND THEY LICK RIGHT HERE.

AND SO, UH, DO YOU REALIZE IN, IN, UH, ASIA, THEY SELL PAINTINGS THAT THESE ELEPHANTS HAVE DONE? YEAH.

YEAH.

DO YOU SELL THESE OR? WE DO.

WE DO.

SO WE AUCTION 'EM OFF AND, AND BELIEVE IT'S STARTING BID NOW IS $25 AND PEOPLE BUY 'EM.

AND, AND IT'S A WAY TO EXPOSE OUR ANIMALS TOO, ESPECIALLY OUR LONG-TERM STAYS.

UM, SO IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

AND WE HAD ONE OF OUR BIGGEST TRANSPORTS, UM, 50 DOGS AND WENT TO THE MIDWEST.

UM, AND SO PHENOMENAL JOB OF PUTTING EVERYTHING TO ORDER, UH, TOGETHER FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS, THEY HELPED WITH FUNDING THESE.

UM, AND THIS WAS, UH, A GREAT TIME.

GREAT TIME WITH THAT.

IS THIS ALL DOGS FROM YOUR SHELTER? YES.

YEP.

THAT'S A LOT.

WHAT DOES IT COST PER DOG? $160.

THERE YOU GO.

THERE YOU GO.

160 PER CRATE WITH THIS PARTICULAR TRANSPORT.

MM-HMM .

NOW THIS ONE, SINCE IT WAS A PRIVATE TRANSPORT, UM, IT WAS LIKE A FLAT RATE FOR THE WHOLE VAN.

OKAY.

AND IT AVERAGED OUT A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN ONE 60, BUT NORMALLY IT'S ONE 60.

AND WHO PAYS THAT? WE, UH, FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS, UH, NONPROFIT IS, IS FUNDING ALL OF THOSE.

UH, AND THIS WAS A DONATION DRIVE.

YEAH.

.

SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ME AND JUSTIN.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE RECEIVE DONATIONS ALL THE TIME AND, UH, WE JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY THAT HELPS OUT WITH THAT.

UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, JUSTIN, HE'S PUT ON SOME LIGHT A LITTLE BIT.

LOOK THAT GUN ON YOU.

SO THAT'S ON THE RECORD.

.

UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE, WE STARTED OUR OWN SNIP AND TIP PROGRAM, UH,

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BACK IN AUGUST, UM, WHICH IS GOING VERY WELL.

UM, EVERY MONDAY WE, OR EVERY OTHER MONDAY WE HAVE A DEPLOYMENT TEAM THAT GOES OUT AND TRAPS IN CERTAIN AREAS.

WE ALSO PARTNER WITH OPERATION KINDNESS.

THEY COME AND HELP US, UH, WITH THE FREE COMMUNITY CAT DAY EVERY SECOND THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE KNOW THE, UH, THE ADOPTION RATE OF THE ANIMALS THAT WE TRANSPORT? DO WE KNOW WELL, YEAH.

SO WHENEVER THEY COORDINATE TRANSPORTS NINE OUT, NINE TIMES OUTTA 10, THOSE ANIMALS ALREADY HAVE AN ADOPTER WAITING.

SO, I MEAN, I'M GONNA, AND DINA MAY KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED PERCENT RATE WHEN THEY GET TRANSPORT TO ANOTHER STATE.

THEY ALREADY HAVE ADOPTERS THERE.

READY.

I, I CAN RECALL, YOU KNOW, ONE INSTANCE WHERE THERE WAS, THERE WAS AN ISSUE ONCE IT GOT TO THE RECEIVING RESCUE, BUT THEN WE BROUGHT THAT DOG BACK HERE.

RIGHT.

BUT YEAH, THEY, THEY GET ADOPTED SO QUICKLY.

UM, AND THESE ARE DOGS THAT HAVE OFTEN BEEN HERE IN THE SHELTER FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER.

IT'S A REALLY NICE NUMBER.

IT'S GOOD.

YEAH.

AND, AND TO GO BACK ON THAT OZ, WHERE DO YOU SEND THEM TO A SEPARATE LOCAL? WHERE DO YOU, WHERE DO THEY GO? UM, JESSICA, WHO IS THE RESCUE COORDINATOR FOR ART, SHE WORKS WITH ORGANIZATIONS ALL ACROSS THE, THE COUNTRY.

UM, MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN, OR COMMON AREAS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO.

BUT THEY, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THEM GO TO OTHER PLACES AS WELL.

SO, AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF BEHIND THE SCENES COORDINATING WITH THAT.

UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN REGULATIONS THAT THE ANIMALS HAVE TO HAVE BEFORE LEAVING THE STATE.

UH, WE ALSO COORDINATE WITH THE RESCUE GROUPS ON WHAT IS NEEDED.

UM, AND THEN THEY COORDINATE WITH POTENTIAL ADOPTERS.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT THAT KIND OF GOES BEHIND SCENES.

AND, UH, THESE ANIMALS ARE NEUTERED AND SHIPPED EVERYTHING FULLY VETTED, FULLY VETTED.

AND DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY GO, THEY REQUIRE CERTAIN VACCINES.

UM, AND TO GO BACK ON, ON OZ'S QUESTION IS EARLIER THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR, WE, UM, WE DID A PROCESS IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UM, FOR, FOR THE SHELTER.

AND WE DETERMINED THAT THERE'S TWO OUTLIERS THAT AFFECTED OUR LIVE RELEASE RATE, WHICH WAS TRANSPORTS, UM, AND RETURN TO OWNERS IN THE FIELD.

AND SO WE'VE REALLY INVESTED IN OUR TRANSPORTS AND THAT HAS REALLY HELPED WITH OUR LIVE RELEASE RATE.

YEAH.

I THINK EVERY MONTH SINCE AUGUST IT'S BEEN 99 OR ABOVE, CORRECT.

YEAH.

ACTUALLY, UH, AND WE WILL, WE'LL DISCUSS THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT, UM, DECEMBER WE HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT LIVE RELEASE RATE AND THE SHELTERS AT ETTE AND RALPH WAL, DO THEY WORK WITH Y'ALL, UH, SENDING ANIMALS UP? SOME OF THEM DO.

SOME OF THEM DO, YES.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

THEY'RE NOT AS BIG.

CORRECT? THEY HAVE A FEW.

YEAH.

SO OUR FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS SUPPORTS ROULETTE AS WELL, AND WE'VE TRANSPORTED TWO OF THEIR DOGS, UM, IN THE SAME TIMEFRAME.

BUT HOW BIG IS THAT SHELTER? IT ONLY HAS, UH, 24 KENNELS AND THEN FOUR ISOLATION KENNELS.

UM, BUT THEY, THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME POSITION THAT, THAT GARLAND.

I MEAN, THEY, THEY HAVE NOT EUTHANIZED AN ANIMAL STRICTLY DUE TO SPACE SINCE 2014.

YEAH.

SO A LOT OF THE, THE FOCUS IS ON GETTING GARLAND TO THAT SAME POINT TO WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS STRICTLY BASED ON SPACE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS WE'VE EVER HAD IS ABOUT THE HIGH ALTITUDE CHAMBER PUTTING THE DOGS TO SLEEP.

YOU KNOW, THIS THING WAS FULL OF PEOPLE B******G ABOUT IT MM-HMM .

AND EVEN OUTSIDE, THEY WERE B******G ABOUT IT, AND FINALLY THEY GOT IT OUTLAWED.

YEP.

AND THAT'S, THERE'S NOTHING BAD ABOUT THAT.

THOSE, THEY JUST GO TO SLEEP.

YEAH.

CRAZY.

SO, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHY DOES ROULETTE JUST NOT HAVE THE STRAIGHT DOG PROBLEM THAT WE DO? UM, OR IS THERE PEOPLE COMING AND ADOPTING BETTER? I MEAN, WHY IS THERE SUCH A DIFFERENCE IN THE, I MEAN, I CAN TRY TO ANSWER THAT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I HAVE AN ANSWER.

I JUST DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT US .

YEP.

UH, WELL, YOU LOOK AT THE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND YOU LOOK AT THE POPULATION.

SO I THINK IS AT 73, ALMOST 75,000, WHERE THE CITY OF GARLAND IS, YOU KNOW, 250,000.

AND SO JUST BASED OFF THE NUMBERS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE ANIMAL RELATED ISSUES.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

UM, SO WE PARTNERED WITH, UH, OPERATION KINDNESS AND ABBOTT ANIMAL SERVICES, OR CABOT ANIMAL SERVICES, SORRY, UH, TO HOST A TRAINING FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

AS Y'ALL KNOW, THAT IS ONE OF OUR MAIN FOCUSES IS, UH, MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO DIVE INTO THE COMMUNITY AND FIND OUT WHAT IS THE ROOT PROBLEM.

SO WE CAN TRY TO, UH, HELP WITH THAT.

SO KUDOS TO THEM.

IT WAS A GREAT TRAINING.

I THINK I ACTUALLY ACTUALLY ATTENDED THAT.

SO, AND WE HAD OUR FIRST FLIGHT WITH WINGS OF RESCUE, UH, TOYS FOR TOTS.

WE DO THIS

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EVERY YEAR.

AND WE HAD ACTUALLY TWO TRUCKLOADS THIS YEAR.

SO PHENOMENAL YEAR THAT, UH, WE ALSO TEAMED UP WITH OPERATION KINDNESS ON A FREE, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, FOOD PANTRY TO HELP OUT WITH CITIZENS THAT ARE IN NEED OF DOG FOOD AND CAT FOOD.

UM, GREAT TURNOUT.

UH, WE HOPE TO SCHEDULE MORE OF THESE IN THE FUTURE.

SO YOU GUYS ARE HANDING OUT FREE, FREE DOGS? WE ARE.

YEP.

YOU GUYS VET THEM IN ANYWAY? NO, WE DON'T.

YEP.

IT'S, UH, THEY HAVE A DOG.

THEY GET TWO BAGS OF DOG FOOD.

UM, AND IF THEY HAVE THE CAT, THEY GET TWO BAGS OF DOG FOOD.

I, THERE'S A LOT OF .

NO, THERE'S NOTHING.

YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF MEAT OUT THERE THESE DAYS.

SO IT'S MM-HMM .

IT'S GOOD.

AND THEN WE PARTNERED WITH PETCO LOVE, UM, FOR THE HOLIDAY ADOPTION AND FOSTER WEEKEND EVENT, WHICH WAS GOOD 'CAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO SPONSOR ALL THE ADOPTIONS THAT HAPPENED THAT WEEKEND.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO COMMUNITY OUTREACH? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SOLUTION.

YEAH.

.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL, UH, DIVE INTO OUR NEXT TOPIC.

SO LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED PET LIMITS.

UM, AND SO I WENT BACK, WE DID A FEW SURVEYS ON WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE PET LIMITS, AND MOST OF THE CITIES HAVE, UH, SOME SORT OF ORDINANCE WHEN IT COMES TO A LIMIT PER HOUSEHOLD.

UM, AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE WANTED TO KEEP IT EASY AND WE KIND OF LOOKED AT SOME OF THE MORE COMPARABLE CITIES OF WHAT THEIR ORDINANCES WERE, WHAT THEIR LIMITS WERE.

AND THERE WAS A LOT OF, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT, IS IT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME? AND I ACTUALLY DISCUSSED WITH THIS WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS, AND WE JUST WANNA KEEP IT SIMPLE.

AND SO THE NUMBER THAT WE CAME, CAME UP WITH BASED ON OUR POPULATION AND WHAT THE OTHER CITIES HAVE IN PLACE IS SIX AND SIX ANIMALS PER HOUSEHOLD.

ANY VARIATION? SIX.

UM, SIX.

SO YOU CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, FIVE DOGS, ONE CAT OR FIVE CATS, ONE DOG, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

UM, WHAT ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE DOGS? DOESN'T MATTER.

DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

YEAH, WE JUST FIVE.

GREAT.

DANES CAN BE AT THE SAME, THEY COULD BE HERE.

YEP.

.

OH MAN.

I'D HATE TO HAVE THAT JOB.

CLEANED THAT YARD UP.

.

WHAT, WHAT CITIES DID WE SURVEY THAT THAT HAD LIMITS? WE DID, WE DID, UM, GRAND PRAIRIE, UH, I GOT THE NUMBERS HERE.

SO WE DID GRAND PRAIRIE, WHICH THEIR ANIMAL LIMIT IS EIGHT.

UH, GRAPEVINE, THEIR ANIMAL LIMIT IS FOUR.

AND THIS IS ANY VARIATION.

UM, WE ALSO DID THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND THEIRS IS FOUR AND FOUR.

SO FOUR CATS, FOUR DOGS.

DID YOU TALK TO LAA, TEXAS? I DID NOT YOU DIDN'T TALK TO LAA, TEXAS.

UHUH ART.

YEAH.

I'M FROM LAA, TEXAS.

, I'LL CALL, I'LL FIND OUT.

UH, WE ALSO SPOKE WITH LITTLE ELM AND THEIRS IS FOUR DOGS.

UH, ANY VARIATION? UH, WE, WE SPOKE WITH PLANO AND THEIRS IS 10 IN 10.

THE CITY OF , I BELIEVE IS 10 AS WELL.

IT IS.

IT IS.

MM-HMM .

THAT'S A KILL.

SO WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

YEP.

WE'RE RIGHT.

WE'RE AVERAGE.

UH, SO ALSO SPOKE WITH, LET'S SEE HERE, UH, CITY OF BRIDGEPORT AND THERE'S IS FOUR.

DID YOU TALK TO DALLAS OR FORT WORTH? I DID.

UM, CARLTON IS THREE DOGS, THREE CATS.

YEAH.

AND THEY'RE COMPARABLE TO US.

YEAH.

UM, AND CITY OF DALLAS, AND I'M GONNA GET THIS WRONG 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STIPULATIONS WITH THEIRS, BUT, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S EIGHT.

EIGHT.

YEAH.

UM, OKAY.

AND SO THE IDEA IS THIS IS SPECIFIC TO DOGS AND CATS, LIKE IF THEY HAD OTHER ANIMALS IN THE HOUSE, IT DOESN'T GREAT QUESTION.

YEAH.

SO THIS IS GONNA BE SPECIFIC TO DOGS AND CATS.

YEAH.

UM, AS YOU ALLALL KNOW, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON FOUL.

UM, AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OTHER MAMMALS.

SO JUST, YOU KNOW, RABBITS OR LIZARDS.

WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA EVEN WHAT ABOUT SNAKES? OR SNAKES? YEP.

.

WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT SIMPLE.

AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS, IS ONE IS WE ARE SEEING AN UPTICK OF RESIDENTS HAVING MORE THAN EIGHT ANIMALS.

YEAH.

UH, WE JUST DID A SEIZURE LAST WEEK OF 10 AND WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE SEIZURES, UH, OF ANIMALS OVER THE,

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THE EIGHT OR THE SIX ANIMAL LIMIT.

UM, EVEN WITH CATS, WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE HOARDING CASES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS IT CONTINUES BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE COMING TO OUR SHELTER AND WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT.

UM, NOT ONLY THAT, FROM A NUISANCE STANDPOINT, THIS IS GONNA REDUCE BARKING COMPLAINTS, DOGS RUNNING AT LARGE BITES.

UH, AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME, WE AVERAGE ABOUT A BITE A DAY.

I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING YOU'VE BEEN TO YARDS WITH 22 CHIHUAHUAS OR SOMETHING.

YEP.

WE HAVE, AND WE'VE BEEN TO HOUSES WHERE THERE'S AND UPWARDS OF 20.

UM, AND ONE THING I DID SPEAK WITH ON THE CITY ATTORNEYS IS, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSES THAT DO, IF WE DO IMPLEMENT A CITY ORDINANCE AND WE COME ACROSS HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 10, 15 YEARS AND THEY OWN 10, 15 ANIMALS, HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE THAT? SO I THINK IT'LL BE BASED ON, UH, PREVIOUS COMPLAINTS AT THAT RESIDENCE OF WE ISSUES THERE BEFORE, HAD WE REMOVED ANIMALS BEFORE? OR WHAT WE'VE SEEN TOO IS THEY'VE GOT 20 HEALTHY ANIMALS OR WELL CARED FOR AND WE'VE HAD NO ISSUES.

UH, AND SO WE MAY LOOK AT SOMETHING AS FAR AS BEING GRANDFATHERED IN GRANDFATHER.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

'CAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS, ONE, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY SO WE CAN RESPOND TO ALL THESE HOUSES THAT HAVE MORE THAN SIX ANIMALS AND WE HAVE NOWHERE TO BRING 'EM IN.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST US WORKING WITH THE, THE PUBLIC AND, AND JUST LETTING 'EM KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE AN ANIMAL LIMIT.

AND IF THERE IS ISSUES THERE, WE ARE GONNA, UH, GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO HELP 'EM THE BEST THEY CAN TO REDUCE THOSE NUMBERS.

I WONDER HOW MANY CHILDREN TO A HOUSEHOLD HAVE Y'ALL CHECKED INTO THAT? UH, WE HAVEN'T CHECKED INTO THAT ONE, BUT REALLY IT'S, IT'S KIND OF MORE OF AN ENFORCEMENT TOOL ON THOSE CASES WHERE YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT HAS, UH, MORE THAN THEY CAN HANDLE.

YEAH.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE UP TO OUR DISCRETION IF WE WANTED TO ENFORCE THAT OR NOT.

OKAY.

SO WHEN'S IT GONNA TAKE IT THEN? WELL, SO THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING TODAY IS I'M ASKING FOR Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S REASONABLE, UH, FOR US TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL? I THINK IT'S, I DON'T HAVE 20 CATS HERE.

, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME THAT OUR MAIN FOCUS ARE NOT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND TAKING CARE OF THEIR PETS.

CORRECT.

IT'S THE ONES THAT YOU'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS ON, BUT NOT JUST COMPLAINTS.

YOU'RE GETTING MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS.

YEAH.

THAT'S THE ONES THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON.

SO I THINK THE ORDINANCE IN AND OF ITSELF IS GONNA DO, IS GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT.

YEAH.

SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S CLEAR THAT THE PROPERTY HAS, LET'S SAY THEY HAVE 10, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM, THAT THEY WOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THIS OR YEAH.

THEY'D BE CONSIDERED GRANDFATHERED IN.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO INTO A HOUSE AND THEY HAVE 10 CATS INSIDE AND IT'S A IMMACULATE TO ROYAL CARE FOR VET CARE, WE HAVE NO, UH, CALLS OF THE CAT BEING NUISANCE.

THEY'RE ALL SPAYED AND NEUTERED AT THAT POINT.

THEY'D BE CONSIDERED GRANDFATHERED IN AND WE MOVE ON.

OKAY.

YEAH.

GOTCHA.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SIX IS HOW WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON YES.

IF YOU GUYS ALL AGREE ON THAT'S WHAT WE PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL, THEN, UH, WE CAN GET THAT GOING.

I'M, I'M IN, I'M IN FAVOR.

I'M IN FAVOR.

YEAH.

IN FAVOR.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

UH, ASHLEY THOMPSON IS HERE.

SHE'S GONNA DISCUSS, UH, WILDLIFE TRAPPING WITHIN THE CITY.

UM, SHE'S OUR FIELD SUPERVISOR AND I'LL LET HER KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE, UH, LOOKING AT HERE IN THE FUTURE IN THE CITY OF HOW WE HANDLE, UH, TRAP WILDLIFE.

MM-HMM .

HI.

SO, YES.

SO RIGHT NOW WE, WE ALLOW TRAPPING IN THE CITY OF GARLAND.

UM, AND THE OFFICERS GO OUT AND REMOVE THE ANIMAL FROM THE TRAP AND THEN THEY RELEASE IT.

UM, THE GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO RELEASE IT NEARBY.

UM, NOT TO TAKE IT TOO FAR, UM, 'CAUSE THERE HAS BEEN STUDIES DONE THAT RELOCATE WILDLIFE TYPICALLY DON'T MAKE IT, IF YOU RELOCATE THEM IN A WHOLE NEW AREA, UM, TYPICALLY THEY DIE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS.

IT'S JUST, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE USED TO.

SO, UH, SO WE WANT TO LEAN TOWARDS TRAPPING, UH, DO AWAY WITH IT.

UM, IT DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM.

UM, YOU CAN TRAP FOR YEARS.

WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE TRAPPED FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.

WHAT WERE THEY ALLOWED TO TRAP? THEY'RE TRAPPING SQUIRRELS, MOSTLY POSSUMS. UM, SO WE DO HAVE THE FEW, WE HAVE ARMADILLOS AS WELL THAT DO CAUSE A PROBLEM.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE DO HAVE SOME ADDRESSES THAT TRAP SKUNKS AND RACCOONS AS WELL.

SO THOSE ARE OUR MAIN ONES.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A COUPLE ADDRESSES THAT JUST ROUTINELY TRAP SQUIRRELS AND TRAPPING.

THE SQUIRREL REALLY DOES NO GOOD.

UM, NOW THERE'S A MILLION SQUIRRELS OUT THERE, SO YOU'RE NEVER EVER GONNA CATCH ALL OF THEM.

HEY, ASHLEY.

UH, WE HAD A POSS UH, A POSSUM IN OUR HOUSE INSIDE.

WE GOT A CAGE AND TRAPPED IT AND TOOK IT TO DUCK CREEK AND RELEASED IT.

MM-HMM .

IS THAT LEGAL? YEAH.

YEAH, TECHNICALLY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, SO

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RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

SO IF YOU CALL US, YOU TRAP SOMETHING, YOU CALL US, WE'LL COME OUT AND GET IT.

UM, BUT SO WE WANT TO START EXPLAINING TO THE PUBLIC THAT TRAPPING DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM.

SO YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO EXCLUDE THE ANIMALS FROM YOUR HOME.

SEE WHAT'S ATTRACTING THEM.

YOU KNOW, BIRD SEED'S A REAL BIG ONE, RIGHT? SQUIRRELS LOVE BIRD SEED AS WELL.

UH, SO WE WOULD ASK THEM TO STOP FEEDING THE BIRDS AND THEN THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE AWAY THE, THE SQUIRREL PROBLEM.

UM, BUT YEAH, SO BASICALLY IF YOU TRAP AND REMOVE AN ANIMAL, UM, IT JUST CREATES A VACUUM EFFECT.

SO ANOTHER ONE'S JUST GONNA MOVE RIGHT IN.

THAT'S HOW THEY DO, YOU KNOW, THEIR TERRITORY.

UM, AND IF YOU TRAP SOMETIMES IN THE, WE GET THE MAMA, YOU KNOW, RACCOONS GET TRAPPED LIKE IN AN ATTIC, FOR INSTANCE.

AND THEN THE BABIES ARE LEFT BEHIND, AND NOW WE HAVE TO GET A REHABBER TO REHAB THESE BABIES WHO HAD A PERFECTLY GOOD MOTHER, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF THEM.

UH, SO THAT'S ANOTHER BIG ISSUE THAT, THAT WE'VE NOTICED THAT HUMANS CAUSE.

UM, AND THEN WHAT ELSE DID I, OH, THE OTHER ONE IS WILDLIFE DISEASE.

SO LAST YEAR, NOT, NOT JUST IN GARLAND AND OTHER CITIES ALL OVER, WE HAD A HUGE OUTBREAK OF DECEMBER.

SO THINK ABOUT THAT.

IF WE'RE CATCHING A DISTEMPER RACCOON AND THEN WE GO RELOCATE IT TO A PERFECTLY HEALTHY POPULATION, NOW ALL OF THOSE ARE GETTING DISTEMPER AS WELL.

SO WE ARE JUST CAUSING THE SPREAD OF DISTEMPER AS WELL, SO THAT IF WE WOULD STOP TRAPPING, THEN THAT WOULD ALSO CUT DOWN ON THAT.

ACTUALLY ONE THING YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF SOME OF THOSE TEMPER LOOK LIKE THEY MIGHT HAVE RABIES.

TRUE.

EXACTLY.

SO IF WE PICK UP ANYTHING THAT LOOKS SICK, UM, WE WON'T RELEASE IT BECAUSE THAT'S JUST, JUST TOO MUCH OF A HEALTH CONCERN.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT IS VERY SIMILAR.

UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL MY POINTS.

YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? YEP.

SO THE, THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE THAT WE NO LONGER TRAP WILDLIFE UNLESS IT'S A RABIES VECTOR CAUSING A NUISANCE.

SO O POSSUMS WE WOULD NOT TRAP OR WE WOULDN'T SERVICE ANY TRAPS, SQUIRRELS, ARMADILLOS, UM, ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NOT A RABIES VECTOR CAUSING A NUISANCE, WE WOULD NO LONGER SERVICE THOSE TRAPS BECAUSE POSSUMS HAVE RABIES.

I KNOW RACCOONS DO, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE POSSUMS RA OR, UH, RABIES DOES NOT, UH, WELL, POSSUMS DOES NOT FALL UNDER RABIES VECTOR IS THERE, WE ONLY HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOP FIVE CARRIERS HERE IN TEXAS, WHICH IS OUR RACCOON, SKUNKS, BATS, COYOTES, AND FOXES.

MM-HMM .

SO WE, WE WOULD LONGER DO IT AS A CITY, BUT RESIDENTS COULD CONTINUE TO DO IT IF THEY WANTED TO.

RIGHT.

OR WE OUT OR WE WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT AS WELL.

NO, THEY COULD.

UM, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO REACH OUT TO ANOTHER, UM, ORGANIZATION TO SERVICE THE TRAP.

SO THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN IF THEY WANTED TO SERVICE ON THEIR OWN, THAT'S, YEAH.

IF THEY WANT TO CONTACT A, A THIRD PARTY COMPANY TO COME OUT THERE, THEN THEY'RE, THE CITY WOULDN'T BE DOING IT ANYMORE.

THE CITY ARE, IT'S THEIR OWN TRAPS, RIGHT? CORRECT.

YES.

TRAPS OUT.

OKAY.

YEP.

UH, WE JUST WOULDN'T SERVICE THOSE TRAPS.

AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS TRY TO EDUCATE, TO LET CITIZENS KNOW IF YOU TRAP A POSSUM, LET IT GO.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD FOR THE ECOSYSTEM, YOU'RE CREATING A VACUUM EFFECT.

UM, AND STUDIES HAVE SHOWN IF THEY GO IN A TRAP, YOU RELEASE 'EM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME BACK.

MM-HMM .

BUT IF YOU GO AFTER A COW, YOU HAVE TO SET A TRAP FOR THE FEET, DON'T YOU LOCK THE U? RIGHT.

SO THE COYOTES, WE, WE NO LONGER TRAP WE USED TO YEARS AGO.

HOWEVER, IT'S, IT'S INHUMANE.

UM, AND TWO, BY US TRAPPING COYOTES, IT DOES NOTHING FOR THE CITY.

IT DOESN'T, UH, HELP WITH REDUCING THE POPULATION.

WE, WE LIVE WITH URBAN WILDLIFE AND THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE HERE TO STAY.

WE JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESENT OUR PROPERTY WITH DETERRENCE IF WE HAVE TO.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE A LOT IS WE'RE TRAPPING RACCOONS AND SKUNKS, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES, THEY'VE GOT TRASH ALL OUTSIDE, THEY'RE PUTTING FOOD, THEY'RE FEEDING, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS.

AND SO YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA ATTRACT, UH, WILDLIFE AND OTHER ANIMALS TO YOUR PROPERTY.

SO IF WE CAN START THAT, UH, EDUCATION COMPONENT, UM, OF KEEPING YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, FREE OF WHATEVER IT MAY BE THAT ATTRACTS WILDLIFE.

WE LIVE CLOSE TO THE CREEK THAT RUNS BY THE, THE, UH, UM, HAT FACTORY.

AND WE HAD TWO OUTSIDE CATS THAT WE FED.

WE HAD ENOUGH RACCOONS TO POPULATE GARLAND.

YEP.

MM-HMM .

I MEAN, THEY CAME AND ONE MORE MAMA BROUGHT FIVE LITTLE ONES.

AND BOY, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEYHOW DOWN AND I LIVE RIGHT BY CREEK TOO.

I LIVE AT, RIGHT NEAR KUER PARK IS IN MY BACKYARD.

MM-HMM .

OH YEAH.

YOU'VE SEEN A WHOLE LOT OF WILD LAWN SQUIRRELS.

I'VE SEEN.

OH, SQUIRRELS.

I, I LIVE IN THAT AREA TOO.

I HAVE SEEN POSSUMS AND I HAVE SEEN ARMADILLOS IN THAT AREA.

MM-HMM .

WELL, I, I HAVE ONCE IN A WHILE, IF I'M EARLY IN THE MORNING WALKING MY DOG, I'LL SEE BUNNIES AND OH YEAH.

REAL EARLY.

YEAH.

BUT YEAH, WE SEE THE COYOTES OVER THERE IN THAT AREA AS WELL.

EVERY NOW AND AGAIN.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY RACCOONS OR SKUNKS, BUT I HAVE SEEN THEM NEARBY, LIKE OVER BY THE HOME DEPOT, LOWE'S AREA.

I'VE SEEN SOME SKUNKS CROSSING

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THE STREET OVER THERE.

.

THEY'RE HERE, WE LIVE WITH THEM.

UM, AND WE JUST GOTTA EDUCATE OURSELVES ON HOW TO LIVE WITH THEM.

BUT TRAPPING DOES NOT FIX THE PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.

MM-HMM .

UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE OPPOSITE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TRAPPING SQUIRRELS.

SO THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES ACTUALLY DID A STUDY AND SHOWED THAT IF YOU RELOCATE, RELOCATE A SQUIRREL, IT'S GONNA DIE.

MM-HMM .

UM, AND SQUIRREL, THEY DO , THEY PUT 'EM ALONG THE TOP OF THEIR FENCE AND THEN WHEN THE SQUIRREL RUNS ACROSS THAT FENCE LINE, IT GETS 'EM MM-HMM .

YEAH.

MY NEIGHBOR TRAPPED 21 SQUIRRELS.

I BELIEVE YOU.

YEAH.

21 STUDY.

THE STUDY WAS DONE IN 2004 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.

AND WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH IS 97% OF THE SQUIRRELS ACTUALLY ENDED UP DYING.

MM-HMM .

YEP.

SO AND SO TODAY THE SERVICE THAT YOU PROVIDE IS JUST GOING TO PICK IT UP AND RELOCATE IT.

YOU DON'T PROVIDE THE TRAP TODAY? NO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CHANGE IS WE WOULD BEGIN TELLING CITIZENS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NO LONGER GONNA SERVICE THAT TRAP.

YOU CAUGHT A POSSUM, YOU CAN LET IT GO.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

SO IF WE CALL YOU TO GET A TRAP, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET OUT THERE? THEY'RE NOT GIVE TRIPS.

THEY DON'T GIVE TRIPS OUT.

RIGHT.

WE STOPPED LOANING OUT DROPS.

THAT WAS STEP ONE.

OH, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

WE'RE PHASING IT IN.

MM-HMM .

AND SHE SAID IF YOU HAVE A TRAP AND TRAP SOMETHING, THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME OUT ANYMORE.

OKAY.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP RIGHT.

IS TO, SO THIS ONE WE TRAPPED AND TOOK TO THE CREEK.

WE DID OURSELVES.

THAT'S OKAY.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

SO WE WOULD ALLOW THAT, WE ALLOW CITIZENS TO .

IS THERE A FINE, DO Y'ALL HAVE A, CAN YOU FIND PEOPLE FOR DOING STUFF? I MEAN, YES.

IF THEY INHUMANE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE TRAP THAT SAY THEY'RE BAITING THE TRAP WITH POISON, THEN YES.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD ISSUE THAT'S ANIMAL CRUELTY.

UM, SO WE COULD GO AT 'EM FOR THAT ROUTE.

OR IF THE ANIMAL DIES IN A TRAP, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ANIMAL.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ANIMAL.

THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE WE'RE RUNNING INTO TOO, IS PEOPLE ARE TRAPPING IN INCLEMENT WEATHER.

UM, WHEN IT'S A HUNDRED DEGREES OUTSIDE, THEY'RE SETTING TRAPS AND WE'RE RESPONDING TO POSSUM'S DEAD AND THE TRAPS.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN, YOU KNOW IT'S 20 SOMETHING DEGREES OR 32 DEGREES, THEY'RE STILL TRAPPING.

SO WE ISSUE LAST WEEK.

YEP.

SO WE ISSUED THE CITATIONS FOR THAT.

WHAT WE STARTED DOING LAST SUMMER IS WE'D ISSUE THE CITATION AND WE WOULD SEND A LETTER STATING WE'RE NO LONGER GONNA SERVICE YOUR TRAP.

WHEN DID ASHLEY, WHEN DID Y'ALL START THIS? THE LOANING? THE NOT LOANING OUT TRAPS OR NO, YOUR, YOUR ORGANIZATION.

I NEVER HEARD OF YOU.

WHAT? I WORK FOR THE CITY.

HUH? SHE'S OUR FIELD SUPERVISOR.

I KNOW SHE IS.

OH, OKAY.

GOOD.

BEFORE.

OH YES.

I MAY BE DUMB, BUT I DON'T, I KNOW SHE'S A FIELD SUPERVISOR.

YEAH.

WHEN DID THEY START? OH, WHEN DID YOU START? WHEN DID I START? YEAH.

ON AUGUST.

UH, SO I, IT'LL BE SIX MONTHS.

MM-HMM .

YEP.

SIX MONTHS IN FEBRUARY.

YEP.

DID HE GIVE YOU THAT SWEATER AND SHIRT? ? UM, YEAH.

I MEAN TECHNICALLY I BOUGHT THIS, WELL I HAD THEM BUY IT FOR ME.

YEAH.

OFF AMAZON.

AND THEN THIS SWEATER WAS GIVEN TO ME BY JESSICA, BUT HE APPROVED IT.

APPROVED IT ART.

YEAH.

UNTIL ART ME.

AND I SAID, YOU DESERVE ALL THAT HE CAN GIVE YOU.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

HE'S GIVEN ME TWO CAPS.

I APPRECIATE THAT ONE SWEATSHIRT.

I DO HAVE THAT.

I HAVE TWO OF 'EM ON .

YOU I SEE.

I WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE TODAY AND THEY THOUGHT I WAS AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER.

.

YEAH.

WELL YOU CAN TELL 'EM ALL ABOUT US THEN.

WELL, THANK YOU.

I KNOW YOU CAN.

OH, THANK YOU.

SO DO YOU HAVE TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL? WE DO.

YEAH.

TO GET THAT APPROVED.

DO.

AND SO, UM, WE WANNA KNOW Y'ALL'S THOUGHTS.

WHAT, WHAT YOU THINK? UM, I CAN TELL YOU OTHER CITIES, THIS IS BECOMING VERY POPULAR.

UM, CITIES AREN'T DOING IT ANYMORE.

THEY'RE JUST STOPPED.

THEY TECHNICALLY IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO YOU COULD TELL THEM, WELL, IT'S YOUR PROPERTY SO YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, AND CITY OF RICHARDSON DOES NOT TRAP WILDLIFE.

CITY OF ARLINGTON DOES NOT TRAP WILDLIFE.

MM-HMM .

UM, ED DOES NOT TRAP WILDLIFE.

I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

SEEMS LIKE IT'S PRETTY DANGEROUS FOR OUR STAFF TOO WITH SOME OF THESE BIGGER REALLY IS WELL, AND RESOURCES THAT, I MEAN, COULD GO TO SOMETHING ELSE, COULD GO TO SOMETHING ELSE.

I WOULD RATHER SEE THEM GET DOGS BACK HOME.

.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

RIGHT.

IN APRIL, YOU JUST HIT IT.

RIGHT.

THERE IS MAJORITY OF OUR CALLS ARE TRAP WILDLIFE.

YEAH.

THAT'S PROBABLY 30, 40% OF OUR CALLS.

REALLY? YEAH.

OH WOW.

IT'S A LOT.

IT IS.

SO WE COULD BE DOING OTHER THINGS AND WE SPOKE ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES.

WELL THIS AFFECTS OUR RESPONSE TIME.

OH YEAH.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

NOW THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THEY WILL STILL BE ABLE TO TRAP, SO LET'S TAKE RACCOONS THAT I MEAN, OR DO THEY HAVE TO APPEAR SICK IN ORDER TO, IF THEY APPEAR SICK OR THEY'RE CAUSING A NUISANCE.

SO IF THEY MAKE IT IN SOMEBODY'S HOUSE, WE'RE GONNA RESPOND.

UM, OR IF THEY SET A TRAP INSIDE

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THE HOUSE, IT WON'T COME OUT.

WE'LL, WE'LL RESPOND MM-HMM .

UM, BUT A HEALTHY, THRIVING ANIMAL, THERE'S NO NEED TO TRAP.

MM-HMM .

NO NEED TO TRAP.

YEAH.

UH, AND THERE AND THERE'S TIMES WHERE SKUNKS GET UNDER THE HOUSE AND, AND YOU KNOW, SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, I THINK WE CAN COME IN AND WE CAN ASSIST WITH THAT.

WELL THE BEST THING TO GET IS A BB GUN.

YOU SHOOT 'EM IN THE BUTT AND THEY'RE GONE.

YEAH.

, WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT.

THERE MAYBE ANOTHER ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF AGAINST THE THAT.

YEAH.

WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT.

YEP.

SO, OKAY.

ARE WE READY TO CLOSE THE MEETING? THAT'S IT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ART OR ASHLEY BESIDES ME? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE THESE, THESE ISSUES IN FRONT OF, UM, COUNSEL? THE, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UH, THE ANIMAL LIMIT PER HOUSEHOLD, WE ARE PROBABLY GONNA DISCUSS A LITTLE MORE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS.

UM, AND ONCE WE KIND OF WORK THAT OUT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE, WHAT ARE WE, THIS'LL BE FEBRUARY.

I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET IT IN NEXT MONTH.

YEAH.

SO DOES ANIMAL CONTROL MAKE THE, MAKE THE MOTION AND IT PASSES CITY COUNCIL? WELL, NO.

WHAT WE DO IS WE WILL PRESENT THIS TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEN THERE'S THE ONES THAT DECIDE IF THEY'RE GONNA PASS THE ORDINANCE OR NOT.

OH.

IF I CALL THE MAYOR AND SAY, YOU BETTER DAMN SURE.

APPROVE THIS DO IT.

I TRY.

GOTTA CONVINCE YOU.

YEAH.

GOTTA CONVINCE ALL NINE OF 'EM.

NINE.

YEAH.

OR MAJORITY OF 'EM.

OR THE MAJORITY OF 'EM.

YEP.

YEAH.

AND I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS ON HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE THAT.

AND UM, SO WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE'RE PREPARED FOR THAT AND ANSWER THEM THE BEST WE CAN.

UM, ON BOTH ITEMS. SO WE WANT TO PRESENT THE ANIMAL LIMIT, BUT WE ALSO WANNA PRESENT THE WILDLIFE HERE PRETTY SOON.

'CAUSE SUMMERTIME'S COMING UP.

OH YES.

LET ME TELL YOU A STORY BEFORE WE CLOSE.

RICK BARKER WAS, WAS CHAIRMAN OF, OF, OF YOUR, HE HAD YOUR JOB.

HE DIDN'T LAST VERY LONG, BUT ON, AT 16 EAST DARTY, WEST DARTY, THERE WAS A LADY THAT HAD I THINK 15 OR 20 CATS IN THE HOUSE.

NEVER TOOK OUT THE LIT PANS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

YEAH.

SO THEY DECIDED THEY WOULD GO IN AND CLEAN THAT OUT.

HE STEPPED THROUGH THE DOOR, HE GOT THE SICK, HE STARTED VOMITING AND WENT OUT HIS STREET.

YEAH.

ASK HIM ABOUT THAT.

IT HAPPENED.

I'LL GUARANTEE YOU.

.

OKAY.

NEXT MEETING.

NEXT MEETING.

LEMME LOOK AT MY CALENDAR HERE.

OCTOBER, JANUARY 17TH.

UM, MA.

MARCH 14TH.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

YEAH.

NOW ART, IS THAT SPRING BREAK FOR KIDS? I MEAN, NOT THAT I HAVE ANY KIDS IN SCHOOL.

PROBABLY SPRING BREAK IS THE NEXT WEEK.

NEXT WEEK.

ARCH.

YOU CALL THAT CITY MANAGER AND TELL HIM WE WANT THAT ROOM NEXT DOOR.

YES.

AND TO HOLD OFF, I WILL YOU TELL HIM ONE OF THE MAIN CITIZENS OF GARLAND DEMANDS THAT I, I WILL LET HIM KNOW.

ALL RIGHT.

MARCH 14TH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

ANYBODY ELSE MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND MY CALENDAR.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

SEE YOU OF MARCH THE 14TH.

YES.

BUT I'LL SEE YOU BEFORE THAT.