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WELL. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MONDAY, FEBRUARY 3RD, 2025 WORK SESSION FOR THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T FEEL LIKE FEBRUARY 3RD OUTSIDE, BUT ACCORDING TO THIS AGENDA, IT IS FEBRUARY 3RD. AND SO WE WILL GET UNDERWAY. FIRST ITEM PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING. NO MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO CONSNSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS FOR TOMORROW EVENING. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY REQUESTS FOR ANYTHING TO BE PULLED, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S
[1. Calling the 2025 General Election for May 3, 2025 Council is requested to consider an ordinance ordering a General Election for the City of Garland to be held on May 3, 2025 for the purpose of electing a Mayor and one Councilmember to respectively represent Districts 3, 6, 7, and 8, providing for a run-off election if needed and providing for other matters relating to the conduct of the election. Unless otherwise directed by Council, this item will be scheduled for formal consideration at the February 4, 2025 Regular Meeting. ]
TIME. STILL, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING MOVING ON TO OUR WRITTEN BRIEFINGS. ITEM ONE CALLING THE 2025 GENERAL ELECTION FOR MAY 3RD, 2025. AND ITEM TWO CALLING THE 2025[2. Calling the 2025 Special Bond Election for May 3, 2025 Council is requested to consider an ordinance ordering a Special Election for the City of Garland to be held on May 3, 2025 for the purpose of submitting to the voters four propositions authorizing the issuance of general obligation bonds for various permanent public improvements and public purposes, and providing for other matters relating to the conduct of the election. Unless otherwise directed by Council, this item will be scheduled for formal consideration at the February 4, 2025 Regular Meeting.]
SPECIAL BOND ELECTION FOR MAY 3RD, 2025. THESE BOTH OF THESE ITEMS WILL BE UP FOR[3. 2025 Proposed Bond Program - Resident Engagement Strategy Staff will present additional details related to the resident engagement strategy for the proposed 2025 Bond Program to the City Council.]
CONSIDERATION TOMORROW NIGHT. MOVING ON TO VERBAL BRIEFINGS, ITEM THREE 2025 PROPOSED BOND PROGRAM RESIDENT ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY.SPECIAL. K FIVE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. TIFFANY AND I ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO VISIT WITH YOU A BIT ABOUT THE RESIDENT ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY FOR THE PROPOSED BOND ELECTION. SO AS YOU ALL PREPARE TO CONSIDER THE FORMAL CALL FOR AN ELECTION TOMORROW EVENING, WE WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES THIS EVENING JUST TO ASSURE YOU THAT SHOULD YOU MOVE FORWARD, WE ARE READY TO ENGAGE WITH GARLAND RESIDENTS IN A CLEAR AND MEANINGFUL WAY. SO OUR STRATEGY FOR RESIDENT ENGAGEMENT WILL MEET THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND WHERE THEY ARE, WHETHER THAT BE ONLINE, IN PERSON, OR WHERE THEY GATHER AS A COMMUNITY NOW. AND OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT THEIR RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING IN MAY, SHOULD IT GO THAT DIRECTION, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, WHY IT MATTERS, AND ENSURING THAT THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH ANY QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO OUR STRATEGY HERE IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL WEEK ZERO. SO UP UNTIL THIS POINT, OUR EFFORTS HAVE INCLUDED JUST REALLY PREPARING FOR TOMORROW NIGHT'S TOMORROW NIGHT'S MEETING. SO REFLECTING BACK ON THE MAYOR'S STATE OF THE CITY LAST WEEK, AS WELL AS ANNOUNCEMENTS LEADING UP TO THIS WEEK'S MEETING, THAT KIND OF TAKES US TO THIS EVENING. AND SHOULD YOU MOVE FORWARD TOMORROW, WE HAVE A PRESS RELEASE READY TO GO, A VERY BASIC WEBSITE THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE BOND PROGRAM AND CAN BE ENHANCED THROUGHOUT THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AS WE GO, AS WELL AS DIFFERENT PROGRAMED PIECES THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS, AND TO VISIT A BIT ABOUT OUR TOOLS THAT WE WOULD INTEND TO USE. IT ALL REALLY STARTS WITH THE VOTER GUIDE. SO IF YOU WERE ENGAGED IN THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM, YOU MAY REMEMBER ABOUT AN 11 PAGE BOOKLET THAT REALLY WAS COMPREHENSIVE AND INCLUDED ALL OF THE PROPOSITIONS TO BE CONSIDERED DETAILS FOR EACH ELECTION, DATES AND LOCATIONS, AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. SO WE REAY SEE A SIMILAR FORMAT FOR THE 2025 BOND PROGRAM, AND THAT THAT VOTER GUIDE WOULD THAT VOTER GUIDE WOULD REALLY ULTIMATELY BE THE CORE PIECE OF COLLATERAL THAT WE USE THROUGHOUT THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. AND FROM THERE, WE WOULD THEN BUILD OUT A ONE SHEETER THAT ESSENTIALLY SUMMARIZES EVERYTHING INTO A HANDY ONE SHEET DOCUMENT, SIMPLY LISTING THE PROPOSITIONS, THE ELECTION DATES AND LOCATIONS, AND THEN A QR CODE THAT WOULD TAKE FOLKS TO THE TO THE WEBSITE I REFERENCED EARLIER FOR MORE INFORMATION.
WE'RE ALSO DEVELOPING A STANDARD PRESENTATION THAT CAN BE USED ACROSS MULTIPLE AVENUES AND THEN SUPPLEMENTAL COLLATERAL FROM THERE AS WELL, THAT TIFFANY WILL DIG INTO A BIT HERE SHORTLY.
WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO TIFFANY. YES. AND SO WITH THAT VOTER GUIDE, I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT IF THE ELECTION IS CALLED TOMORROW, WE WOULD BE SENDING THAT TO YOU GUYS FOR REVIEW ON WEDNESDAY MORNING, BECAUSE WITH THAT BEING THE FOUNDATIONAL PIECE, WE WANT TO
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MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR INPUT IN THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING CLEAR AND CONCISE AND INCLUDING EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE, BECAUSE, AS LETICIA MENTIONED, WE'LL BUILD A LOT OFF OF THAT. SO AFTER WEEK ZERO, WHICH IS THE WEEK WE'RE IN CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 12 WEEKS LEADING UP TO THE MAY 3RD ELECTION. AND SO THESE ARE THE TWO SLIDES THAT I'VE BUILT OUT WITH THOSE 12 WEEKS. THE DATES ARE FOR THOSE. BUT THEN I TOOK THOSE 12 WEEKS AND I PUT IT INTO A PLAN. SO IN OUR MICROSOFT 365 PLATFORM, WE HAVE THE TOOL CALLED PLANNER. AND THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE CAN VARY OUR COMMUNICATION APPROACHES, STAY ORGANIZED, BUT THEN ALSO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH A WHOLE TEAM, OUR TEAM GARLAND OF PEOPLE, TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT AND TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO REALLY THE CRUX OF OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN IS VARIED MESSAGING. THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU GUYS SAW ON THAT LAST SLIDE THAT I HAD. WEEK ONE. WEEK TWO. WEEK THREE. WEEK FOUR. WE DON'T WANT STATIC INFORMATION.WE DON'T WANT TO ONLY BE TELLING OUR RESIDENTS WE'VE GOT A BOND ELECTION, THIS MUCHH MONEY, THEE PROPS. HERE'S YOUR VOTING DATES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY TRULY UNDERSTAND. AS LETICIA MENTIONED, WHAT'S INVOLVED? WHERE HAVE WE COME FROM FROM THE 2019 BOND? WHAT WHAT'S BEEN COMPLETED? WHERE ARE WE NOW? WHAT ARE OUR SUCCESSES? WHY DID WE CALL FOR THIS BAIL, THIS BOND? WHAT DID OUR BOND STUDY COMMITTEE DO? THOSE ARE ALL MESSAGING THAT IS BROKEN DOWN BY WEEKS. AND THAT WAY IT ALLOWS US TO REALLY FOCUS ON THOSE AND DIG IN DEEP VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE VOTER GUIDE. WE CAN PUT A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT EVERYTHING, OR ELSE THE DOCUMENT WOULD BE A HUNDRED PAGES. SO BY VARYING OUR MESSAGES, WE CAN DIG DEEPER. BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO CATCH MORE EYES. AS LETICIA MENTIONED, WE WANT TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. SOME PEOPLE MAY CARE ABOUT STREETS, OTHER PEOPLE MAY CARE ABOUT THE GRANVILLE ARTS CENTER. AND SO BY VARYING THAT MESSAGE, WE CATCH THE EYES ON WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, AND THEN THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THIS BOND ELECTION COMING UP. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR GOAL IS THAT ANY RESIDENT WE CAN STOP, YOU KNOW, OR IF THEY STOP US, THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ELECTION HAPPENING AND THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. SO THAT VARIED MESSAGING IS KEY. BUT THEN THE OTHER KEY, AS I MENTIONED, WAS THAT COLLABORATION BETWEEN TEAM GARLAND. IT CAN'T BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF JUST ONE TEAM.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES FOR ONE TEAM TO DO IT. SO WE'RE ALL GOING TO WORK TOGETHER. EVERY CHANNEL THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US AS A CITY IS BASICALLY PLUGGED IN ON THAT BOARD. SO FROM OUR SCROLLING TVS AT OUR REC CENTERS, THOSE INFORMATION SLIDES, OUR REC TEAM IS GOING TO HELP US PUT INFORMATION UP THERE FROM THE CHECKOUT DESK AT OUR LIBRARIES. OUR, YOU KNOW, LIBRARY STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE OUR VOTER GUIDES THERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE POTENTIALLY I'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF IT'S OKAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR TRANSPORTATION SIGNS, IF WE NEED AT OUR VOTING LOCATION SAYING VOTE HERE ELECTION, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION AT THIS WEBSITE, OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT SIGNS IF WE CAN USE THOSE. ANY TYPE OF RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THEM OUT IN DIFFERENT WEEKS SO THAT AGAIN, WE'RE CATCHING EYES IN DIFFERENT WAYS. AND WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE OVERLOOKED OR BECOME STAGNANT INFORMATION. SO THAT IS ALL BUILT OUT THROUGH OUR PLAN. BUT THE BIGGEST PIECE OF OUR PLAN IS YOU GUYS, WE KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE THE CONNECTION WITH THE RESIDENTS. Y'ALL ARE THEIR COUNCIL PERSON, THEIR FACE TO THE CITY. AND SO WE WANT TO EMPOWER YOU TO BE PART OF OUR PLAN AS WELL, TO HELP US GET THAT INFORMATION AND TO HELP CONNECT WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AND TO HAVE THE RESOURCES YOU NEED TO DO THAT. SO LET ME TURN THAT OVER TO LETICIA. YES. AND SO AS TIFFANY MENTIONED, THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN THE TOOLKIT CURRENTLY ALL START WITH THAT VOTER GUIDE AND THEN EXPAND OUT FROM THAT. THE STANDARD PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE DEEP DIVE INTO THE PROCESS SO FAR, HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS THE WAY THAT THE PROPOSITIONS ARE PACKAGED AND REALLY GO INTO DETAIL TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE OUTLOOK LOOKS LIKE, AND THEN THAT ONE PAGER AND THEN SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION AS WELL. BUT GIVEN THAT EACH OF YOU KNOW YOUR CONSTITUENTS BETTER THAN ANYONE AND YOU ALL HAVE YOUR OWN STYLES FOR COMMUNICATION, WE HAVE. I KNOW CARMEN HAS BEEN REACHING OUT TO YOU ALL TO SEE IF YOUR PREFERENCE BE HOA MEETINGS, TOWN HALLS OR OPEN HOUSES. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE ANYTHING WORK. SO WITH THE OPTION OF EITHER OF THOSE THREE
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FORMATS, WE DO SEE IT BEING A PRETTY STANDARD APPROACH STILL AS WELL, WHETHER THAT BE TABLES ALONG THE PERIPHERAL OF THE SPACE WITH A SPOT DEDICATED TO EACH PROPOSITION SO THAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS CAN COME AND ENGAGE WITH STAFF AND HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROPOSITION ITSELF. AND THEN, IN ADDITION, HAVE A CENTRALIZED PRESENTATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM AS WELL. SO ALL SORTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE WITH WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND AGAIN, TO FIT WHATEVER YOUR STYLE BE. AND THEN THE PMR TEAM ALSO HAS A PLAN FOR SOME PERSONALIZED SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL. SO ONE THAT I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE FOR EACH OF YOU IS, YOU KNOW, JUST YOUR PICTURE AND SAYING, ASK ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE UPCOMING BOND ELECTION OR BOND 2025. AND THAT'S AGAIN, A WAY THAT MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD ONE, BUT THEY SEE THAT. AND SO THEN THEY REACH OUT TO YOU AND ASK YOU, BUT WE'LL BUILD ON THAT AND WE'LL SHARE NEW ONES WITH YOU. AS YOU KNOW, WE THINK OF THEM AS THEY COME UP AS, AS A RESIDENT SENDS A QUESTION, WE'RE LIKE, OH, THAT'S GOOD. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR ALL OF YOU GUYS TO COMMUNICATE OUT. WE'LL CREATE THOSE. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK OF AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CREATED FOR YOU TO PUT OUT AND SHARE WITH YOUR RESIDENTS, WE ARE HAPPY TO DO ANY OF THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE THE KEY COMMUNICATORS AND THE KEY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT OUT MESSAGES, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE STRONGER COMING FROM YOU GUYS. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP YOU CREATE, JUST LET US KNOW PLEASE. AND WITH THAT WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. I'M GUESSING THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MAYOR. GOOD EVENING LADIES. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. GLAD TO BE BACK. ONE ONCE WE HAVE ALL RESPONDED TO CAMERA AND YOU HAVE THOSE TENTATIVE DATES. OKAY. DO YOU MIND SHARING THAT WITH US SO THAT WE. SO I DON'T SCHEDULE SOMETHING WHEN COUNCIL LADY LUCK OR WE DON'T WE DON'T CROSS EACH OTHER AS, AS WE ARE TRYING TO SET UP OUR WHETHER WE DO A TOWN HALL OR, OR OR. TALK TO AN OHA, THAT WAY I CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE SPREAD OUT AND WE'RE NOT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. YES, THAT'S THAT'S FIRST. YES. WE'LL COMMIT TO THAT TO KEEP YOU INFORMED. OKAY. THE.THE VOTER GUIDE HANDOUTS. HOW ARE THOSE? THOSE ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS. BUT WHAT IS IT? IS IT A CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT FOR ME BRIEFLY. I REMEMBER THE LAST ONE. BUT WHAT WILL YOU BE ABLE TO HAND THAT OUT TO CONSTITUENTS? WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO PICK THOSE UP AND CARRY THAT CARRY IT WITH THEM. TELL ME ABOUT THAT. YES, SIR. SO THAT THOSE WILL BE IN HARD COPY AND IN DIGITAL PRINT FORMAT. SO THEY'LL BE GOING ALONG WITH YOU TO YOUR MEETINGS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THEM THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS IN THE CITY, WHETHER THAT BE AT THE LIBRARY, AT CITY HALL. BUT THOSE ARE REALLY INTENDED TO SERVE AS A PIECE THAT COULD ALMOST NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE SO INFORMATIVE AND THAT THEY WALK THROUGH EACH PROPOSITION IN DETAIL AND HOPEFULLY ANSWER MOST QUESTIONS, BUT THEN PROVIDE CONTACT INFORMATION OR THE LINK TO THE WEBSITE FOR ANY SORT OF FOLLOW UP. BUT IT'S IN TURN, IT'S INTENDED TO BE THAT REALLY LIKE REALLY KEY PIECE OF INFORMATION TO COMMUNICATE WHAT'S ON THE TABLE OR ON THE BALLOT RATHER. OKAY. SO IT CAN BE LIKE IF SOMEONE GETS THEIR INFORMATION FROM THE VOTER GUIDE, THE IDEA IS THAT THEY ARE GETTING COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION WHERE THEY COULD BE INFORMED AND FEEL LIKE THEY CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION BY JUST HAVING THAT VOTER GUIDE. IF THEY SAW THE PRESENTATION, THEY'D HAVE THAT SAME COMPREHENSIVE FEEL THAT THEY HAD ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEED FROM THAT PRESENTATION. WE WANT TO PROVIDE MULTIPLE AVENUES AND HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THERE SO THAT SOMEONE CAN IF THEY'RE IF THEY LIKE PRINTED VERSIONS, IF THEY LIKE TO GO SEE SOMEONE IN PERSON, IF THEY WANT TO GO TO THE WEBSITE AND DO THEIR OWN DIGGING, THEN YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALL OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND NEXT TO LAST, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT ABOUT THE BOND ELECTION. WILL YOU PREPARE A, A SORT OF A TALKING DOCUMENT IF YOU WILL, FOR US TO JUST JUST TO KEEP IT IN A SHIRT POCKET OR A PANTS POCKET OR WHEREVER, YOU KNO THAT WOULD, WOULD HELP HELP US TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS.
AND, AND WE ALL ARE USING THE SAMEME INFORMATION. SO US. YES, YES. AND SO WITH THAT PRESENTATION, THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WILL WILL HAVE FOR YOU
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GUYS. SO WITH THAT PRESENTATION WE'LL HAVE THE SPEAKING POINTS FOR THAT. AND LIKE THE KNOWING WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO GO ALONG WITH EACH SLIDE. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE THING THAT IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE THAT PRESENTATION, YOU WOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO SAY. WE WILL ALSO CREATE A TALKING POINTS DOCUMENT. THAT'S JUST KIND OF SOME HIGHLIGHTS, SOME PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN SHARE IN JUST CONVERSATIONS. AND THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE FAQS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS ON THE WEBSITE THAT WE'RE PLANNING IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STANDARD LIST OF FAQS THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH RIGHT NOW. BUT THEN AS WE RECEIVE QUESTIONS OR AS YOU GUYS RECEIVE QUESTIONS AND SEND THEM TO US, WE CAN MAKE THAT A DYNAMIC FAQ THAT WE JUST ADD TO IT SO THAT ANYBODY WHO HAS THAT SAME QUESTION MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. MY LAST QUESTION IS EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FACILITATE HAVING APPROPRIATE STAFF AVAILABLE. YOU MENTIONED THE TABLE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH TABLES AROUND THE ROOM, BUT HOW WILL YOU ENSURE THAT AVAILABLE STAFF. STREETS ETC. IS AVAILABLE AT EACH OF THESE FORUMS OR PUBLIC MEETINGS TO ANSWER CONSTITUENTS QUESTIONS? HOW WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WITH THE COORDINATED SCHEDULES. SO YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN CARMA SOME DATES ALREADY IN ADVANCE. AND WE ARE ROTATING STAFF RESPONSIBILITY THROUGHOUT THOSE COMMITMENTS. AS FAR AS DATES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR. VERY GOOD. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. LOOK, SO I'M HAVING A TOWN HALL ON MARCH 13TH. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT DATE IS TAKEN. 6 P.M, SOUTH BRANCH SOUTH GARLAND BRANCH LIBRARY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE ADDRESSED IN THE LITERATURE THAT YOU PROVIDE OR ONLINE RESOURCES IS KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE TAX RATE AND HOW THE BOND AFFECTS THE TAX RATE, WHICH IN THIS CASE IT WON'T. SO BASICALLY JUST KIND OF A REAL BROAD OVERVIEW OF WHAT OUR DEBT SERVICE PORTION OF THE TAX RATE LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT FITS INTO THERE. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE BUILDING OUT RIGHT NOW. THERE'S ABOUT 7 TO 8 OR AT LEAST SIX SLIDES THAT ARE ALL ABOUT TAX RATE. YOU KNOW, HOW YOU CAN HAVE A NO TAX RATE IMPACT BOND ELECTION AND HOW THE TAX RATES WORK, HOW WE'RE DIFFERENT FROM A SCHOOL TAX RATE AND EXEMPTIONS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. HOW WOULD ALL THE FINANCIALS WORK OUT. YEAH. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON, COULD WE INCLUDE A IF WE DON'T LIKE PROPOSITION A IS FOR STREETS. IF WE IF THAT DOESN'T PASS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE FOR US. BECAUSE THAT'S A HOT TOPIC. AND THAT'S A BIG ARGUING POINT FOR PEOPLE IS IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW THEN YEAH. PERFECT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S IN THERE. OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. EXCUSE ME.ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I SEE NOW ONE THING THAT I, YOU KNOW, ONE COMMENT OR ONE COMMENT THAT I HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE TIMES IS THE STATUS OF THE 19 PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, SHOWING WHERE YOU KNOW, THERE'S BECAUSE ALSO THERE'S 2004, THERE'S 19 AND THEN POTENTIALLY 25 HAVE KIND OF SHOWING WHAT THE COMPLETIONS ARE. IE SEEN THAT A FEW TIMES. AND THAT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION. SO IF THAT COULD BE INCLUDED AS WELL. YES WE HAVE A SLIDE ALREADY FOR THAT. AND THAT'S ONE OF MY WEEK'S MESSAGES TO JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WELL, I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS YET AND LETTING THEM KNOW KIND OF RIGHT WHERE WE ARE. HERE'S WHEN THINGS ARE PLANNED. OKAY. VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ONE LAST TIME. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. AND OBVIOUSLY WE WILL TAKE THIS UP AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT. AND, AND THEN DEPENDING ON HOW WE GO, THE WEEK CALENDARS WILL START OR NOT START. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. MOVING. EXCUSE ME. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR. WE SHOULD HAVE DID IT WHEN I COUGHED. LET ME KNOW LET ME KNOW NEXT TIME. ITEM FOUR PROPOSED PROFESSIONAL AND YOUTH SOCCER
[4. Proposed Professional and Youth Soccer Complex with Mixed-Use Development Staff will present an overview of a proposal for the development of a professional and youth soccer complex with mixed-use development at the Holford Road and President George Bush Turnpike interchange. City Council actions related to this item will be considered at future meetings, including the TIF # 3 Project and Financing Plan and authorization to move forward with a Lease and Development Agreement. The design contract will be considered at the February 4, 2025 Regular Meeting.]
COMPLEX WITH MIXED USE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. OH. GO AHEAD, MR. REX. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT. SO I WANT TO PREFACE THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION AND CONTEXT, FIRST OF WHICH IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT. MOST OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE NOT BEEN IN THIS REALM, A WORK SESSION OR A REGULAR MEETING. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN IN OTHER, OTHER VENUES. AND SO TONIGHT[00:20:03]
WE'RE REALLY JUST KIND OF INTRODUCING TO THE COMMUNITY MORE CONTEXT AND BACKGROUND ABOUT THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND TRYING TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING AND THAT YOU MIGHT BE GETTING ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. AT THE IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY COUNCIL, OF COURSE, AS WE WORKED THROUGH THE FINER DETAILS OF THIS DEAL, I WILL SAY THAT WE'VE ALSO POSTED THIS FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSION TONIGHT.SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE MORE ABOUT THE DEAL POINTS AND THE FINER DETAILS OF THE DEAL, IF YOU COULD RESERVE THOSE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. THIS IS REALLY TO SHARE KIND OF WITH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC SOME HIGH LEVEL POINTS ABOUT THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT THE CITY IS PURSUING RIGHT NOW. A LOT OF WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS O ON HAS TO DO WITH QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE PUBLIC. MORE ABOUT GENERALLY SOCCER AND USL, DALLAS, AND WHAT'S USL AND WHAT IS THE MEN'S SOCCER LANDSCAPE IN NORTH TEXAS AND, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND SO WE SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF DETAILS ABOUT THAT AS WELL FOR THOSE NOT FAMILIAR WITH SOCCER. AND THAT WAS ME AS OF, YOU KNOW, TELL MY DAUGHTER STARTED PLAYING, YOU KNOW, 6 OR 7 YEARS AGO. IT WAS LIKE A FOREIGN LANGUAGE. AND I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH SINCE THEN, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY HAS COME TO THE CITY AS WELL. AND SO UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S SOME INFORMATION BUILT IN HERE THAT I THINK WILL HELP YOU AND THE PUBLIC NAVIGATE WHAT THIS LANDSCAPE LOOKS LIKE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO I'M GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TAG TEAM THINGS TONIGHT. I'LL START WITH SOME HIGH LEVEL DETAILS ABOUT THE SOCCER LANDSCAPE AND USL, ANDI WILL TALK ABOUT THE SITE AND THE PLANS FOR THE SITE AND THE PROPERTY. AND OF COURSE, MATT, WHO IS OUR CFO. HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE RULES OF SOCCER. YEAH. CHIEF. CHIEF FOOTBALL OFFICER. YES. I'M GLAD HE USED THE RIGHT TERM FOR THE SPORT, TOO. THAT WAS IMPORTANT. SO WITH THAT, I WANTED WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT HOW DID WE GET HERE AND, AND COUNCIL THAT SOME OF THIS INFORMATION HERE IS INCLUDED JUST SO THAT WE CAN SHARE IT WITH THE PUBLIC AS, AS THINGS COME UP, SOME OF THIS IS YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW A LOT OF THIS STUFF THAT'S HERE. BUT AGAIN, THIS WILL GIVE US A PRESENTATION TO POINT TO AS WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. SO AS THE MAYOR ALLUDED TO BEFORE, THIS IS KIND OF THREE YEAR, THREE PLUS YEARS IN THE MAKING. AND SO REALLY LATE IN 2021, WE STARTED HAVING SOME VERY GENERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES ACROSS GARLAND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT. AND THOSE THOSE EARLY CONVERSATIONS LED TO SOME INTRODUCTIONS TO THE LEAGUE, UNITED SOCCER LEAGUE, USL, AND AT THE TIME IT WAS A DIFFERENT OWNER. BUT THE DALLAS FRANCHISE OWNERSHIP OF A USL FRANCHISE, AND THAT SORT OF CAME INTO 2022 AS THE AS THINGS CONTINUED THROUGH 2023, WE HAD SOME SITE SELECTION AND PLANNING ACTIVITIES AND CONTINUED EXPLORATIONS ACROSS THE CITY LOOKING FOR LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY AND KIND OF HOPING THIS THING WAS GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE RIPE AS WE AS WE PURSUED THINGS REALLY IN EARLY 2024, THERE WAS A CHANGE IN TEAM OWNERSHIP, AND THAT'S WHEN THINGS STARTED TO ACCELERATE. SO WE HAD SORT OF A KEY MEETING. IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO WITH WITH THE NEW TEAM OWNER AND THE LEAGUE, AND STARTED REALLY PUSHING THINGS FORWARD.
THAT LED US TO LATE IN 2024, WHEN WE ACQUIRED SOME LAND UP ON HOLFORD AND GEORGE BUSH AND STARTED TO TURN THIS DEAL INTO WHAT, WHAT'S BECOMING REALITY FOR US AND THEN MORE PRESENT, YOU KNOW, STARTING IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, ANNOUNCING THE PARTNERSHIP WITH USL, DALLAS AND THEN JUST THIS PAST WEEK AT THE MAYOR'S STATE OF THE CITY. TALK ABOUT IN DETAIL WHERE THE SITE IS, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND THAT LEADS US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO AS FAR AS THE US MEN'S SOCCER LANDSCAPE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A QUESTION WE GET A LOT.
WELL WHO IS USL DALLAS. IS THIS MINOR LEAGUE SOCCER. IS IT MAJOR LEAGUE. IS IT WHAT WHAT IS IT EXACTLY. AND SO AGAIN JUST THIS IS THE MEN'S SOCCER PYRAMID THAT'S SANCTIONED BY THE US SOCCER ASSOCIATION. AND THERE'S ESSENTIALLY DIVISIONS HERE. SO AT THE VERY TOP IN THE PROFESSIONAL REALM, YOU HAVE MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER AND THAT'S WHERE FC DALLAS IS. AND THAT'S
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THAT'S BASED IN FRISCO. THAT IS A DIVISION ONE LEAGUE. SO FC DALLAS PLAYS IN A DIVISION ONE LEAGUE THROUGH MLS. YOU'VE HEARD RECENTLY ABOUT MANSFIELD, TEXAS THAT'S DEVELOPING A SOCCER STADIUM. THEY ARE DOING THAT FOR THE NORTH TEXAS SOCCER CLUB OR NORTH TEXAS SC. THEY ARE A DIVISION THREE. SO IF YOU GO THREE LEVELS DOWN THAT'S MLS NEXT PRO DIVISION THREE LEAGUE.THAT IS OF COURSE ASSOCIATED WITH MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER MLS. SO IN BETWEEN THERE IS WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS USL CHAMPIONSHIP. SO USL CHAMPIONSHIP IS A DIVISION TWO IN THE IN THE MEN'S SOCCER PYRAMID. AND IT IS IT'S THE TOP USL TEAM THAT'S THAT'S SANCTIONED. THERE'S ALSO A USL LEAGUE ONE THAT'S DIVISION THREE. AND THEN IN THE AMATEUR OR PRE-PROFESSIONAL DIVISION FOUR THERE'S A USL LEAGUE TWO AS WELL. AND THEN YOU GET DOWN INTO THE COLLEGE, THE COLLEGE PATHWAY. SO IT'S SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED. AND WHEN THEY SAY IS IT MINOR LEAGUE. IS IT SEMI-PRO. WHAT IS IT. WELL IT'S PROFESSIONAL AND IT'S DIVISION TWO. AND YOU CAN RESPOND WITH THAT. NOW WHEN PEOPLE ASK THE QUESTION. SO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT USL. THEY ARE THE LARGEST PROFESSIONAL SOCCER ORGANIZATION IN NORTH AMERICA. AND THEY HAVE OVER 200 CLUBS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND THEY INCLUDE MEN'S WOMEN'S ACADEMY YOUTH. YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT WHAT THE WHAT THE PATHWAYS LOOK LIKE ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE. YOU'LL RECALL LAST YEAR THAT DALLAS TRINITY FC STARTED AS A USL SUPER LEAGUE ON THE WOMEN'S DIVISION ONE ON THE WOMEN'S PYRAMID. SO I SHOWED THE MEN'S PYRAMID. I DIDN'T SHOW THE WOMEN'S PYRAMID, BUT THERE IS A ONE THAT'S FOR THAT. WITH USL SUPER LEAGUE AS A DIVISION ONE ON THE MEN'S MEN'S SIDE. AGAIN, IT'S USL CHAMPIONSHIP, LEAGUE ONE, LEAGUE TWO AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT GOES DOWN FROM THERE. AS FAR AS YOUTH AND ACADEMY.
NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE LANDSCAPE OF THE USL CHAMPIONSHIP LEAGUE. SO THERE'S CURRENTLY 24 CLUBS.
THERE'S SOME FUTURE CLUBS THAT HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED. THERE ARE USL DALLAS WILL MAKE THREE CLUBS IN TEXAS. THERE'S A CLUB IN SAN ANTONIO AND THERE'S A CLUB IN EL PASO. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CHAMPIONSHIP LEAGUE KIND OF STRETCHES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THEY'RE DIVIDED INTO TWO CONFERENCES, THE EASTERN AND WESTERN CONFERENCE. THIS I JUST WANTED TO SHOW KIND OF WHAT THE FOOTPRINT OF USL LOOKS LIKE IN TEXAS. I MENTIONED THE CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL. THERE'S USL, DALLAS, SAN ANTONIO FC AND EL PASO LOCOMOTIVE FC THAT ALL PLAY IN THE USL. DALLAS WILL PLAY IN THE USL CHAMPIONSHIP IN USL LEAGUE ONE. TEXOMA FC, WHICH IS BASED IN SHERMAN, WILL BEGIN PLAY NEXT MONTH. FOR THEIR FIRST SEASON, THEY WERE A NEW ADDITION TO THE LEAGUE, ONE OF THE OF THE USL DIVISION THREE LEAGUE. CORPUS CHRISTI IS ALSO ANNOUNCED A LEAGUE ONE TEAM AS WELL. AND THEN I MENTIONED DALLAS TRINITY FC ON THE WOMEN'S PATHWAY THAT THAT PLAYS AT A DIVISION ONE LEVEL. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ANDY FOR MORE INFORMATION. SURE. AND I'M SURE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THIS IS A RECAP, BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC. SO WE ACQUIRED 64 ACRES THAT YOU CAN SEE. THEY'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN. ABOUT 14 ACRES OF THAT IS UNENCUMBERED AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY LAND USE. WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IS THE BALANCE OF THAT WAS UNDER A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, AS YOU RECALL, AND IT ALLOWS FOR US TO USE THE BALANCE OF THAT PROPERTY FOR RECREATION, RECREATIONAL YOUTH, I'M SORRY, RECREATIONAL USE ACTIVITIES. WELL, IT'S SUCH A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STADIUM AND THE REST OF THE PROPERTY TO BE USED AS A SOCCER USE. THEY'RE VERY COMPLIMENTARY. AND SO I THINK WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THIS, THIS SITE IN PARTICULAR, IS IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT KIND OF SHOWS THE OUTLINE OF WHAT THIS IS VERY TENTATIVE DRAFT. THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SPACE STUDY OF WHAT MIGHT FIT WHERE. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF THE OFF TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN IS IN THE, IN THE RED BOUNDARY THAT REFLECTS APPROXIMATELY TEN ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AVAILABLE USE, PLUS ABOUT FOUR ACRES OF THE STADIUM USE. AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS GOING TO BE YOUR PROFESSIONAL AND YOUTH SOCCER COMPLEX. THAT'S ALLOWED IN THAT, IN THAT PROPERTY. SO THE GOAL OF, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IS TO HELP, NOT JUST ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, THE YOUTH SOCCER OR PROFESSIONAL SOCCER, BUT ALSO REALLY CATALYZE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S AROUND IT, NOT JUST WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, BUT HOPEFULLY IN THAT ENTIRE REGION OR CORRIDOR AS WELL. SO MOVING ON TO THE BUDGET, IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO THE TOTAL. SO THE TOTAL FOR ALL ACTIVITY IN THIS AREA IS $111.8 MILLION. AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES AND USES TO GET TO THAT NUMBER. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
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LAND, THE LAND, WE'VE ALREADY ACQUIRED THE LAND, BUT THE LAND WAS ROUGHLY $10.8 MILLION, AGAIN FOR 64 ACRES. WE IN 2019, WE HAD MONEY SET ASIDE FOR HOLFORD IMPROVEMENTS. AND WITH THAT, WE PLAN TO MAKE THE REQUIRED HOLFORD ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND NAAMAN FOREST BOULEVARD EXTENSION. CURRENTLY, NAAMAN FOREST DOES NOT RUN THROUGH HERE. IT'S IT STOPS RIGHT BEHIND THAT LA FITNESS. SO THIS WILL BE AN EXTENSION OF NAAMAN FOREST TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ROADWAYS FOR TRAFFIC. WHEN IT COMES TO THE STADIUM, THERE'S REALLY T LARGE PIECES THAT WE'RE UTILIZING FOR THE FUNDING OF THE STADIUM WITH TIFF NUMBER THREE, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. THERE'S ROUGHLY $43 MILLION THAT IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED FOR USE TOWARDS THE STADIUM. AND OF THAT, ABOUT 39 FORM OF A TIFF REVENUE BOND AND ANOTHER 4 MILLION OF CASH BEING REIMBURSED FROM THE TIFF OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WITH THE BALANCE OF THE STADIUM BUDGET OF 7 MILLION COMING FROM UTILITY FUNDS FOR THE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, THE YOUTH AND RECREATION FACILITY. SO ALL THE PRACTICE FIELDS AND THE SHOW PITCH AND PARKING SURROUNDING IT. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A BUDGET OF 25 MILLION. SO AGAIN, THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE SOURCES AND USES ARE SHOWN HERE. WE WILL HAVE TO BRING BACK AN AMENDMENT TO THE CIP FOR THE 25 MILLION FOR THE YOUTH AND RECREATION FACILITIES. BUT AS DISCUSSED IN THE DEBT DONUT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, THE CAPACITY I THERE. AND THIS THIS ENTIRE BUDGET IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO HAVE ANY SORT OF IMPACT ON THE TAX RATE. SO KIND OF WRAPPING IT UP, WHAT WHAT'S NEXT? YOU'LL YOU'VE SEEN ON OUR AGENDA FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, THERE IS A CONTRACT FOR DESIGN TO FOR THE CITY TO BEGIN DESIGN NOT OF THE STADIUM BUT OF THE PARTS OF THIS PROJECT FOR WHICH WE'RE RESPONSIBLE, WHICH INCLUDES THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, THE PRACTICE COMPLEX, THE PARK FACILITY, PART OF IT ALL THAT'S INCLUDED IN A DIGN CONTRACT THAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW NIGHT. MATT MENTIONED ABOUT THE TIF THREE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN. THAT'S YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION, AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU FOR ACTION ON FEBRUARY 18TH, THE TIF THREE BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THAT. AND AGAIN, YOU'LL GET A PRESENTATION ON THAT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. ANOTHER FUTURE ACTION. AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE WORKING OUT THE DETAILS, THE FINER DETAILS OF THE OF THE DEAL HERE IS THROUGH A LEASE AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THIS WILL PERTAIN TO THE STADIUM AND THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AND THE TENANTS RESPONSIBILITY OR USL DALLAS'S RESPONSIBILITY.THAT'S A DOCUMENT THAT'S IN DEVELOPMENT THAT 'RE WORKING WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM ON AND HOPE TO BRING THAT BACK BEFORE YOU O, ON FEBRUARY 18TH. OF COURSE, PENDING WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF THAT AGREEMENT, WHAT WOULD COME NEXT IS SELECTION OF A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. WE THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN SOMETIME IN MARCH AND THAT THAT'S WHERE WE, THE CITY, SELECTS A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER TO COME ON BOARD THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AND WORK ALONGSIDE OUR OUR DESIGNERS AND THE TEAM AND THE CITY AND REALLY PREPARE FOR CONSTRUCTION. IT'S A IT'S A UNIQUE PROCESS THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER ON BOARD SO THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE PLANS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTABILITY, THEY'RE MAKING SUGGESTIONS FOR COSTS, IMPLICATIONS AND ESTIMATES. AND IT'S A IT'S A PROCESS, FRANKLY, THAT WE'VE USED WITH A LOT OF OUR 2019 BOND PROJECTS TO HELP GET THOSE DELIVERED, SO THAT THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE NEXT STEPS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. AND AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO PREVIEW THOSE AND I THINK THAT'S IT. WE'RE OF COURSE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. AGAIN THIS IS POSTED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION AS WELL. IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED RELATIVE TO THE DEAL, WE'LL WAIT TILL THEN. BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE NO ONE IN THE QUEUE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE. TIP NUMBER THREE
[5. TIF #3 Recommendation for Changes to Project and Financing Plan Staff will present recommended changes to the TIF #3 Project and Financing Plan to the City Council.]
RECOMMENDATION FOR CHANGES TO PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN. AND I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE A PRINTED COPY OF THIS ONE AS WELL. SO I DIDN'T GET A PRINTED COPY. YOU KNOW THAT'S OKAY. VERY[00:35:06]
GOOD. THANKS. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PATRICK ABEL AND I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF TIF THREE. AT OUR LAST MEETING WE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS. IT WAS VERY OPEN AND VERY HONEST, AND I THINK STAFF HAS REALLY PRESENTED A GOOD PLAN FOR US. WE HAD SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO OUR PROPOSALS, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR TIF THREE USING THE CONSERVATIVE MODEL. MATT IS VERY CONSERVATIVE. AS YOU KNOW, RIVERSIDE IS OUR INITIAL CATALYST AREA, AND I THINK THAT IS THREE YEARS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE NOW. AND WHENEVER WE STARTED THAT, OUR AVERAGE HOMES IN THE AREA WERE SUPPOSED TO START IN THE LOW THREE HUNDREDS, AND NOW THEY'RE IN THE HIGH AND UPPER THREE HUNDREDS AND USED OR SELLING FOR 400 AND UP. SOME ARE GOING FOR IN THE FIVE HUNDREDS. WE'RE ALSO ASKING TO INCLUDE THE PROJECT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A PROFESSIONAL AND YOUTH ATHLETIC COMPLEX, ISSUING TIF REVENUE BONDS IN THE AMOUNT OF 39 MILLION. WE DO WANT AN ORDINANCE AND PROJECT FINANCING PLAN THAT MAKES SURE THAT THE BONDS ARE NOT ISSUED UNTIL THE CITY SIGNS A LEASE AGREEMENT, OR THERE IS AN OWNERSHIP GROUP NAMED. WE ARE ASKING THAT TIF CASH REIMBURSEMENT BE FOR $4 MILLION FOR THE DESIGN OF THE COMPLEX. AGAIN, REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE WELL OVER THAT FOR US. SO WE'RE IN A GREAT PLACE. THE TOTAL THREE PROJECT FUNDING WOULD BE 43 MILLION. OUR NEXT RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE EXTEND THE TERMINATION DATE OF TIF THREE TO DECEMBER 31ST OF 2055, TO COINCIDE WITH THE POSSIBLE BOND PACKAGE THAT GOES WITH IT AND MEDICAL DISTRICT FUNDING EARMARKED, AND THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $88.7 MILLION. WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. AND THIS TIF IN GENERAL HAS THREE HUGE AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HOME RUNS FOR THE CITY. THIS IS NOT A NORTH SOUTH, EAST WEST THING. WE DO HAVE A GREAT FOCUS ON SOUTH WITH OUR SOUTHERN BOUNDARY, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE INCORPORATED INTO THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT CATALYST FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, AND OUR REVENUES WILL BE GREAT THAT WE CAN USE FROM THIS. AND MATT GETS THE FUN PART TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS. THAT'S RIGHT. I'LL START WITH A QUICK BACKGROUND OF TIF THREE. SO TIFF NUMBER THREE WAS CREATED IN 2018 TO SPARK REDEVELOPMENT IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA. AFTER THE CLOSURE OF BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE HOSPITAL IN 2024, THE TIF BOUNDARIES WERE EXPANDED BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH ALONG SHILOH ROAD TO CAPTURE VACANT LAND IN NORTH GARLAND AND VACANT, MOSTLY CITY OWNED LAND IN SOUTH GARLAND, AND THE CURRENT EXPIRATION DATE OF THIS TIF IS DECEMBER 31ST, 2048. AND CURRENTLY, IF YOU RECALL, WHEN WE LAST EXPANDED THE TIF, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE OR THE TIF BOARD WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT DOESN'T GET LOST IN THE EXPANDED TIF, WHICH WAS THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, AND AT THE TIME, THE MEDICAL DISTRICT PORTION OF THE TIF WAS PROJECTED TO GENERATE ABOUT $50.8 MILLION THROUGH 2048. SO WE PRETTY MUCH SEGREGATED THAT TO THE SIDE FOR MEDICAL DISTRICT PROJECTS, ONLY THE BALANCE OF THE TIF WAS PROJECTED TO BRING IN ABOUT 157.2 MILLION FOR BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH EXPANSION, AND THAT PART WAS GOING TO BE DESIGNATED TO BE USED FOR BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH ON SHILOH ROAD. SO BOTH THE SOUTH GARLAND AVENUE AREA, PLUS THE NORTH HOLFORD ROAD AREA, WHICH WE'RE CONTEMPLATING NOW, AND ORIGINALLY THE PROJECT PLAN WAS REQUIRED BY CHAPTER 311 IS TO HAVE, WHICH IS WHAT GOVERNS TIFS. IT'S IN THE TAX CODE REQUIRES THAT THERE BE A DETAILED PROJECT PLAN WITHIN THE WITHIN THE FINANCE PLAN. BUT THE CITY STRATEGY HAS BEEN TO ESTABLISH TIFFS TO LET INCREMENT, GROW AND WRITE FAIRLY VAGUE PROJECTS, AND THEN HAVE THE TIF BOARD CHANGE THOSE OR AMEND THE PROJECT PLAN TO ADD MORE DETAILS. WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROJECT WHICH WE HAVE MORE DETAILS ON AND ARE REQUESTING THAT THE TIF PROJECT PLAN BE BE CHANGED AND UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE STADIUM PROJECT, WHICH IS ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT ON THE SOCCER[00:40:04]
COMPLEX. SO AGAIN, THIS WAS SHOWN IN THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM. THE PORTION OF COURSE, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS $43 MILLION OF TIF NUMBER THREE REVENUE, ROUGHLY 39 MILLION OF THIS WILL COME IN THE FORM OF A TIF REVENUE BOND, PLUS 4 MILLION FOR TIF CASH. AND IN SOME FUTURE SLIDES, I'LL GET INTO THE CASH FLOW PROJECTIONS AND SOME OF THE STRATEGIES WE HAVE BUILT FOR THE ISSUANCE OF THESE BONDS. TO START, WHICH I KNOW THIS IS SOMEWHAT HARD TO READ, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO PRINT IT OUT, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESENTED ALL NUMBERS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE WITHIN THE TIF BOARD TIF PROJECT PLAN. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR TIF REVENUES, I WANT TO JUST START WITH THE ASSUMPTIONS. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS I KIND OF VIEW THIS TIFF IN IN IN SECTORS. SO I HAVE, YOU KNOW, PROJECTIONS FOR THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, WHAT I CALL THE BASE MEDICAL DISTRICT. SO THAT'S BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THAT ORIGINAL MEDICAL DISTRICT SPACE, THE PROJECTED NORTH SOUTH BASE, WHICH MEANS JUST ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T SHOWING ANY SIGNS OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, JUST WHAT THOSE PROJECTIONS MAY LOOK LIKE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN I TRY TO DIG INTO SPECIFIC PROJECTS BASED OFF OF ONE. HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO STARTING CONSTRUCTION, TO HOW LIKELY IS SOMETHING GOING TO HAPPEN THERE? AND THEN TAKE A VERY CONSERVATIVE LOOK AT WHAT I THINK THE PROJECTIONS WILL BE FOR THOSE REVENUES, WHICH AND IN THIS CASE THERE'S THREE THERE'S THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE HOLFORD SOCCER COMPLEX, WHICH WE'RE CONTEMPLATING. SO THE 14 ACRES, WHICH ISS FOR COMMERCIAL USE, TE DATA CENTERS ARE A HUGE CATALYST FOR THIS SPECIFIC TIF. SO I HAVE TAKEN A ESTIMATES BASED OFF OF DATA WE RECEIVED FROM THE DATA CENTERS. AND THEN JUST A PROJECTION OF, YOU KNOW, INITIAL CONCEPTS. AND WE OWNED WE OWN OVER 40 ACRES NOW IN SOUTH GARLAND. AND JUST COMING UP WITH A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE FOR THAT SOUTH GARLAND PORTION AS WELL AS INTEREST EARNINGS. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM THE ASSUMPTIONS, I'M BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE. AND WHY I WANT TO DO THIS IS ONE WE'RE WE'RE NOW CONTEMPLATING ISSUE TIF REVENUE BONDS. SO I WANT TO ENSURE ONE THAT WE CAN REPAY THAT OBLIGATION WITHOUT ANY ISSUES MOVING FORWARD. AND TWO, TO SHOW THOSE INVESTORS THAT WE DO NOT THINK THIS TAX INCREMENT WILL GO DOWN. WE DO NOT THINK THAT IT WILL. WE'RE NOT SHOWING THAT IT'S GOING TO SPIKE IN ORDER TO RECOVER THE REVENUE NEEDED TO PAY OFF THAT DEBT. WE'RE USING A VERY BASELINE TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN COVER OUR OBLIGATIONS INTO THE FUTURE. SO WHAT WE'RE USING IS REALLY FOR MOST OF THE BASE MODELS, IS ONLY A 1.5% REVENUE GROWTH. AND FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SEEN OTHER SLIDES THAT WE HAVE SHOWN, THE AVERAGE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS IN TAX GROWTH HAS BEEN 4.9%. SO I'M TRYING TO STAY WELL BELOW THAT. WE ALSO HAVE SENATE BILL TWO, WHICH I TALK ABOUT PROBABLY AT NAUSEAM TO SOME OF YOU ALL WITH OUR CAPS AT THREE AND A HALF. SO I WAS TRYING JUST TO STAY AT A FAIRLY LOW BASE, BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT OTHER CHANGES WILL OCCUR THROUGH LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HOLFORD PROJECT, WE'RE RIGHT NOW CONTEMPLATING ON THE LOW END, ABOUT $75 MILLION IN VALUE IN 2028. AND AGAIN, I'M ONLY ASSUMING A 1.5% INCREASE IN THE OUT YEARS BASED OFF OF DATA FROM OUR DATA CENTERS. WE'RE WE'RE ANTICIPATING AND HOPING FOR CLOSE TO $1 BILLION IN TAXABLE VALUE FROM THOSE. I'M ONLY USING 35% OF THOSE PROJECTIONS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE. THERE IS REALLY NOT UNLESS I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL. THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL WHEN THEY'LL COME ONLINE, AND IF THEY WILL COME ON ONLINE AT ALL. SO I REALLY JUST LOOK TO TAKE THE THINGS THAT I KNOW ARE IN THE PIPELINE AND NOT INCLUDE THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE JUST REALLY PLANS AT THIS TIME. AND WITH SOUTH GARLAND, WE'RE ASSUMING A CONSERVATIVE $100 MILLION INCREASE IN THE TAX BASE. AND AGAIN, BASED OFF FEASIBILITY STUDIES WE'VE DONE DOWN THERE, THAT'S ONLY ABOUT 35% OF WHAT COULD ACTUALLY OCCUR THERE. BUT AGAIN, WE WERE TRYING TO BE EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE. AND THEN ON INTEREST EARNINGS, JUST A VERY, VERY MODEST GROWTH. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST THE INVESTMENT OF OUR IDLE CASH. SOO YOU CAN SEE THAT BY THE END OF AND WHAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED HERE IS IN 2048, HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS THE CURRENT TERMINATION DATE OF THE TIF. AND SO I'M PROJECTING EVEN MORE[00:45:06]
CONSERVATIVE THAN I WAS PREVIOUSLY. AND AGAIN IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE BONDS AT PLAY NOW $141.4 MILLION WITH THE EXPANSION. AND I'LL GET INTO WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THE TIF TO 2055. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THIS WILL GENERATE ABOUT $196 MILLION, OR ALMOST $197 MILLION UNDER THIS VERY CSERVATIVE PLAN. SO REALLY, WHAT THE TIF BOARD WAS WANTING TO DO IS LET'S PUT THE CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS IN THE TIF PLAN AGAIN, JUST TO MITIGATE RISK. BUT I DO ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL COME IN WELL ABOVE THESE IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PROJECTS WE HAVE IN THE WORKS. PLUS JUST LOOKING AT HISTORICAL TAX GROWTH. SO LOOKING AT THOSE TIF REVENUE PROJECTIONS, I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES THAT WILL OCCUR. SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IS A $35 MILLION TIF REVENUE BOND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STADIUM. AND I'M USING WHAT'S CALLED A 1.25 TIMES COVERAGE FOR THE ISSUANCE OF THAT. AND WITH TIF REVENUE BONDS, YOU BASICALLY CAN TAKE THE CERTIFIED VALUE, THE REVENUE BEING GENERATED FROM THE CERTIFIED VALUE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW, AND YOU CAN BOND AGAINST IT. SO I CAN'T BOND AGAINST MY PROJECTIONS. I CAN ONLY BOND AGAINST WHAT'S CERTIFIED AND ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WITH THAT 1.25 TIMES IS SAYING IS I'M GOING TO BOND TO ONLY 75% OF WHAT'S ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.AND AGAIN, WHY WE DO THAT IS TO MITIGATE THE RISK OF US NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY BACK THE LOANS IN THE OUT YEARS, OR IF THERE'S A DIP OR A RECESSION AND THE TIF REVENUES GO DOWN JUST TO GUARD OURSELVES. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS PROVE HIGHER BOND RATINGS AND LOWER INTEREST DOWN THE ROAD.
CONSERVATIVELY, I AM USING 6%. I'M HOPING THAT IT WILL COME IN LOWER THAN THAT, BUT WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH A BOND RATING PROCESS FOR THIS TIF REVENUE BOND SPECIFICALLY. THIS WILL NOT BE TIED TO OUR AA+ GEO BONDS, WHICH WE ISSUE ALL OF OUR CIP DEBT FROM. IT WILL NOT BE TIED TO OUR ELECTRIC UTILITY OR WATER UTILITY. WE WILL GO OUT AND GET A BOND ISSUANCE AND A CREDIT JUST FOR THIS ISSUANCE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK OUT IN THE OUT YEARS, THE PLAN AND WHY WE'RE REQUESTING FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE TIF IS REALLY SO THAT I CAN ISSUE A 30 YEAR NOTE FOR THE STADIUM. AND WHAT I'M SHOWING IN THE YELLOW LINE IS, IS A FIRST, LET ME LET ME BACK UP SOME. SO WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE A 30 YEAR NOTE IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL. BUT WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPTION TO CALL IT EARLY OR PAY IT OFF. AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS HAVING THAT START IN YEAR TEN THROUGH YEAR 30. AT SOME POINT, WE CAN BUILD UP A BALANCE IN THE TIF AND PAY OFF THE NOTE. SO BACK TO THOSE REALLY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES THAT WE JUST SHOWED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. WE ARE PROJECTING AT YEAR 18, WE WILL BUILD UP ENOUGH BALANCE TO JUST CALL THE BONDS AND PAY IT OFF.
AND IF IT PLAYS OUT LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD SAVE ABOUT $11 MILLION IN INTEREST EARNINGS. SO AGAIN, IT'S TO EXTEND THE TERMINATION DATE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OUT A LONGER NOTE. BUT THE INTENT ALWAYS IS, IS TO BUILD A RESERVE TO PAY THOSE NOTES OFF AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
THE CASH TRANSFER WILL COME IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS AND THAT WILL GO, YOU KNOW, STRICTLY REALLY TO THE DESIGN OF THE STADIUM. SO WE RIGHT NOW ARE PROJECTING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING $2 MILLION TOWARDS THE TOWARDS THE PROJECT IN YEAR ONE. AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT IN YEAR THREE. BUT THAT COULD BE INTERCHANGEABLY BASED OFF OF WHEN, YOU KNOW, EXPENDITURES COME IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT RESERVE. SO AGAIN, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE HOLDING THE REVENUES NECESSARY. AND FOR THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND NOT TAKING THAT AWAY, HOWEVER, WE WILL HAVE TO BORROW SPECIFICALLY THE CASH UP FRONT FROM THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND FROM THE FUND BALANCE GENERATED FROM THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. SO REMEMBER, I WAS SAYING THAT IT WAS ROUGHLY 50 MILLION WE WERE HOLDING IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT PREVIOUSLY. WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE INCREASE THAT TO 88.7 MILLION. AND THE REASON IS TWOFOLD. ONE, WE'RE EXTENDING THE TERMINATION DATE SEVEN YEARS, AND TWO, WE'RE BORROWING MONEY FROM THEM. WE SHOULD REPAY THEM AND ENSURE THAT THEY GOT THE SAME PRESENT VALUE DOLLARS, SAME AMOUNT OF INTEREST, EARNINGS THAT THEY
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WOULD HAVE RECEIVED IF WE DID NOT BORROW FROM THEM. SO THEY WILL NOW SEE, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SCHEDULE, THE RESERVE STARTS SLOW BECAUSE OF WE NEED TIME FOR THE INCREMENT TO BUILD UP. THEN ONCE WE PAY OFF THOSE BONDS IT GETS REALLY LARGE. BUT THE INTENT WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE MEDICAL DISTRICT WAS MADE WHOLE, PLUS INTEREST, AND THEN THE REMAINING FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW WOULD GO TOWARDS OTHER PROJECTS WITHIN THE ZONE, YOU KNOW, TARGETED TO SOUTH GARLAND. AND AGAIN, THAT BALANCE IS CLOSE TO MY VERY CONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS OF WHAT WE THINK SOUTH GARLAND WILL BRING. BUT THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE ENDING FUND BALANCE. SO NEXT STEPS, IF APPROVED, WE WOULD GO TO WORK ON REVAMPING THAT PRECT PLAN AND PUT A NOTICE IN THE PAPER FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE'RE TARGETING FEBRUARY 18TH TO HOLD BOTH THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE Y QUESTIONS. HERE THEY COME. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. OKAY. WILL YOU EXPLAIN THE WHOLE SO OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE IS ESTIMATED AT 141 MILLION RIGHT NOW. CORRECT. IF WE KEEP THE DATE AT 20, 4820. RIGHT. YOU'VE ALLOCATED 88.7 MILLION TO THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. ONCE EVERYTHING'S PAID BACK, WE'VE GOT 43 MILLION GOING TO THE STADIUM. THAT'S 131 MILLION.THAT LEAVES $10 MILLION FOR I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING CARVED OUT FOR SOUTH GARLAND IN HERE IN THIS PLAN. THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT BACK TO. WE KEEP OUR TIF PLAN VERY VAGUE. AND WHAT THE BALANCE IS RIGHT HERE. THE 25 MILLION THAT IS KIND OF TARGETED FOR SOUTH GARLAND. 88.7 MILLION. DOESN'T SEEM VERY VAGUE TO ME THOUGH. I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY STATIC NUMBER. I, I'M I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING WHERE SOUTH GARLAND ACTUALLY BENEFITS FROM THE REVENUE THAT WILL BE TAKEN FROM IT AND PUT BACK INTO OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT TIF THREE, WHERE IT'S NOT BENEFITING FROM IT. THAT'S I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOUTH GARLAND IS COVERED BEFORE I PUT MY NAME ON ON THIS PLAN, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT COVERED AT ALL. SO OUR DISCUSSION FROM A BOARD STANDPOINT, THE SOUTH GARLAND AREA OF THIS, WE WANT A TRUE DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT AND IT IS NOT BEING FORGOTTEN. WE HAVE A GOAL TO BRING SOMETHING THERE TO GET PEOPLE NORTH FROM LAKEWOOD AND, YOU KNOW, GET THEM NORTH OF 635 INTO THE CITY.
RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF RESTAURANTS. THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF ANYTHING THAT MAKES THAT AREA A DESTINATION. THE VAGUE PLANNING WHENEVER WE STARTED WAS BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING FOR THE FIRST IRON TO HIT THE FIRE. THIS IS THAT FIRST ONE. IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO ACT ON. AND WE'RE NOT LOSING SIGHT OF SOUTH. IT'S I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I AGREE, I THINK A STADIU WILL BE A WONDERFUL THING FOR GARLAND. THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S $88.7 MILLION CLEARLY ALLOCATED TO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, AND THERE IS NOTHING CLEARLY ALLOCATED TO SOUTH GARLAND. CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? YES. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE TIF REVENUES BY AREA, THE SOUTH IS RIGHT NOW 23.2 MILLION. I'LL TELL YOU, MY INTENT WAS TO LEAVE THAT BALANCE IN FUND BALANCE. SO IF YOU LOOK BACK IN FUND BALANCE WE HAVE $25.6 MILLION. SO MORE THAN WHAT MY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES ARE SHOWING FOR SOUTH, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE COULD AT OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING, WHICH WE ARE SCHEDULED TO HAVE ONE IN FEBRUARY, WE COULD PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA TO CONSIDER SPECIFICALLY EARMARKING SOUTH GARLAND REVENUE AND SEE WHAT THE BOARD MAY, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AMENDMENT, AND THEN COME BACK WITH A SECONDARY AMENDMENT, IF THAT. WHEN IS YOUR MEETING? IN FEBRUARY. WE HAVE NOT SCHEDULED IT YET BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET THIS MEETING. AND AGAIN, IT'S THIS IS A 30 YEAR PLAN. SO IT WON'T WE WON'T SPEND THE MONEY WE'VE DISCUSSED AS A BOARD. WE'RE AVAILABLE TO MEET WHENEVER WE'RE NEEDED. WE WILL ALL BE THERE. AND WE DO HAVE A PLAN AND WE DO WANT TO EXECUTE IT. WE ARE TRULY HERE FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THREE SECTIONS OF THIS TIF. I JUST REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE I SEE THAT IN WRITING. BEFORE I SAY YES TO THIS. THE
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ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION IS THAT THE STRUGGLE I THINK THAT THE TEAM HAS IS THAT AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THIS, IS THAT THEY'RE THE ORIGINAL TIF THREE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN, HAD A ON THE GROUND PROJECT FROM WHICH TO PROVIDE PROJECTIONS FOR THE ORIGINAL MEDICAL DISTRICT TIFF THREE. WE HAD RIVERSIDE. WE KNEW IT WAS HAPPENING. WE COULD PROJECT OFF OF IT. WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN OUR PROJECTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS CONSERVATIVE. AND SO THAT THAT SORT OF LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR WHAT TURNS INTO 88.7 MILLION OVER TIME. YOU MOVE TO WHEN WE EXPANDED THE TIF, WE HAVE A PROJECT. WELL, WE HAD WE HAVE DATA CENTERS ON THE GROUND THAT FEED THE ENTIRE TIF. BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A STADIUM PROJECT.THAT IS IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE'RE KIND OF AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE WERE WITH RIVERSIDE AT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS AGO THAT WE COULD THERE WAS SOMETHING TO MAKE PROJECTIONS OFF OF. AND I THINK WHAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THE STRUGGLE IS WE DON'T HAVE YET.
WE KNOW WE WANT SOMETHING IN SOUTH GARLAND. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FROM WHICH TO BASE PROJECTIONS. I THINK WITH THE 55 ACRES WE HAVE DOWN THERE, WHEN THE PROJECTION OR WHEN THE PROJECT, WHEN A PROJECT BECOMES RIPE, LIKE WE HAVE IN THE OTHER TWO AREAS, THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE. I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT MATT PROJECTED FOR IT WAS 100 MILLION, A NEW VALUE DOWN SOUTH. LIKE THAT'S THAT'S NOT THAT IT'S INSIGNIFICANT, BUT IT'S A PRETTY SMALL AMOUNT THAT IS GOING TO PUSH BACK INTO THE TIF. SO ALL THAT TO SAY THAT LIKE THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE AND I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S GOOD TO GET THIS IS TOUGH. LIKE THE TRUTH OF THIS IS COUNCIL. YOU CAN THIS TIF MONEY CAN BE SPENT ANYWHERE IN THE TIF. WE'RE REALLY WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO STAY THESE THESE THREE AREAS MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO FEED A WHOLE TIF. BUT THERE'S JUST NOT A WE DON'T HAVE A RIGHT PROJECT YET. WE WANT ONE. AND WHEN WE DO, THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE WITH NEW PROJECTIONS BASED OFF OF WHAT THAT PROJECT LOOKS LIKE. AND I'LL ADD TO RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THING IN THIS PLAN IS THE STADIUM. IF IT'S APPROVED IS THE STADIUM. SO WE CANNOT SPEND ANY OTHER MONEY ON ANYTHING UNTIL WE CHANGE THE PLAN. I STILL WANT TO SEE SOMETHING FOR SOUTH. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT, BUT I NEED TO SEE SOMETHING FOR SOUTH GARLAND AND HERE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING. AND THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING ME RIGHT NOW, THERE'S ONLY $10 MILLION LEFT AFTER THESE ALLOCATED FUNDS. 80, 88.7 TOWARDS THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND 43 TOWARDS THE SOCCER STADIUM. THAT'S $10 MILLION LT. SO THIS IS WITHOUT TIF EXPANSION TO 2020 TO 2055. THIS IS WITHOUT I MEAN, IT JUST MAKES ME VERY, VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. I WANT TO SEE THAT SOUTH GARLAND IS GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. IF THIS PROJECTED $100 MILLION THAT IT WILL PRODUCE AT SOME POINT, WHICH IS ESTIMATED TO BE 35% OF WHAT IT COULD POSSIBLY GIVE TO THE TIF, IS NOT PROTECTED IN SOME WAY TO GO BACK INTO SOUTH GARLAND. I'M SORRY. THAT'S JUST BY MY PEOPLE DOWN THERE, I JUST. WELL, AGAIN, WHAT WHAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS MEET THE FAST TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH USL. WE I HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND WE CAN APPROACH THE BOARD AT THE NEXT MEETING. IT'S. I GUESS I'M JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF THAT'S IS THAT FAST ENOUGH AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM THEN TO BASICALLY EARMARK A RESERVE FOR SOUTH GARLAND BASED OFF OF REVENUES. BUT LIKE I SAID, UP TO WHATEVER YOU ALL THINK AS COUNCIL, BUT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY TO ADD THAT PROJECT FOR THE STADIUM. BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN MEET THE ORIGINAL INTENT. THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. OKAY. CUSTOMER BASE. THANK YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER THREE WHERE IT SHOWS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TIF PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO YOU KNOW IT IS WHAT IT IS. THIS IS THIS IS THE TIF AS IT STANDS. PERSONALLY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EXPANDING TIFS. AND THIS IS PART OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO WHAT DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCHT HAD TALKED ABOUT. YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE GOT YOU GOT THREE GENERAL AREAS HERE, RIGHT. YOU HAVE NORTH SUPPORTED BY DATA CENTERS.
YOU HAVE THE ORIGINAL SUPPORTED BY THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SOUTHERN, THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, WHICH I'M GUESSING MOST OF THAT OUTLINED IS VACANT LAND. IS THAT CORRECT OR IT'S SO RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT? OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE THREE
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DIFFERENT TIFS IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE, RIGHT? THE POINT OF A TIF IS TO KEEP MONEY GENERATED IN THAT AREA, IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TAKE THREE DIFFERENT AREAS AND, AND YOU COMBINE THEM BASICALLY AND SAY IT'S ONE, WELL THEN YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM EACH OF THOSE THREE AREAS IS NOT GOING TO BE EVEN. AND THE ALLOCATION TO EACH OF THOSE THREE AREAS IS NOT GOING TO BE EVEN. AND I NOTICED ON HERE WE HAVE WE HAVE THE DATA CENTER ANTICIPATED TO BRING IN 840 MILLION IN VALUE. WE HAVE SOUTH GARLAND ASSUMING 100 MILLION INCREASE. BUT THESE I MEAN AND THEN THE HOSPITAL PROJECTIONS NOT EVEN ON HERE. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE FOR I'D LIKE TO SEE EACH OF THOSE THREE AREAS REPORTED THE SAME. RIGHT. WHAT IS THE ANTICIPATED VALUE OF EACH OF THOSE. WE ONLY HAVE THE ANTICIPATED VALUE OF ONE OF THEM. AND THEN WE HAVE AN ANTICIPATED INCREASE IN ANOTHER. AND WE HAVE NOTHING ON THE HOSPAL AREA THAT. AND THEN IF WE TRULY WANT TO LOOK AT EACH OF THESE AS THREE SEPARATE AREAS, THEN AND THEN ALSO. JUST LIKE MARGARET MENTIONED, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH A GUARANTEE FOR 88 MILLION GOING GOING BACK TO HOSPITAL, HOSPITAL, MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF GUARANTEE FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTH. AND THEN ALSO IF WE'RE BORROWING FROM THE HOSPITAL AREA. MY QUESTION IS, I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS 50 MILLION. OKAY. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT HOW DOES THAT AFFECT REDEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, OR HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THAT 50 MILLION TAKEN AWAY FROM IT? HOW LONG HAS IT TAKEN AWAY FOR IT, AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT ANY POTENTIAL PLANS WE HAVE IN THAT AREA? WELL, I MEAN, WHAT IT WHAT IT'S DOING BASED AGAIN OFF THIS CONSERVATIVE IS, IS SINCE YOU'RE BORROWING FROM IT, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT HARD IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS, FIRST 3 TO 5 YEARS TO DO ANY MAJOR IMPACTS. YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THIS WAS TALKED ABOUT EXTENSIVELY AT THE TIF BOARD MEETING AS WELL. WHAT IF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOND DOES NOT PASS BECAUSE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND SOUTH GARLAND AND HARBOR POINT, DEDICATED OR OR TARGETED IN THAT BOND PPOSITION. PROPOSITION. SO WHAT IF THAT FAILS? AND REALLY THE ANSWER IS, IS I'M TRYING TO GET THE POINT ACROSS THAT WE SET THESE TIF PLANS UP TO BE VERY FLEXIBLE SO WE CAN CHANGE. NOW THE PROBLEM HERE IS, IS ONCE YOU ISSUE BONDS, YOU'VE ISSUED BONDS. BUT IF AND THAT'S WHY I ALSO WANT TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN MY REVENUE PROJECTIONS. BUT IF SOME HUGE DEAL COMES THAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED. A PROJECT IS IN HAND FOR THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. WE WILL EVALUATE THAT AND DO THE BEST WE CAN TO MAKE THAT WORK. AND I WISH I COULD SAY MORE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE WILL FIGURE OUT FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. OKAY. SO POTENTIALLY BORROWING FROM THAT AREA COULD HAVE A FIVE YEAR A FIVE YEAR DELAY. OKAY. AND ALSO USING TIF BONDS USING TIF BONDS. CORRECT? OKAY. BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR EACH OF THE THREE AREAS AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF VALUE. SO WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT THE DATA CENTER, IT SAYS ANTICIPATED TO BRING IN 840 MILLION IN VALUE. BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IN THE OTHER TWO AREAS SOUTH OR HOSPITAL WHAT THEIR ANTICIPATED VALUE THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IN. YEAH. SO REALLY I WAS JUST LOOKING AT DESTINATIONS THAT I FELT WERE COMING SOON. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTIONS OF MEDICAL DISTRICT, THERE'S NO ASSUMPTION OF MEDICAL FACILITIES GOING. AND THAT'S JUST WHAT'S THERE. NOW GROWING THE PROJECTION OF NORTH SOUTH IS WHAT'S ON THE GROUND NOW, PROJECTION ON WHAT IT'S GROWING. BUT I NEEDED TO BREAK OUT PROJECTS I KNOW ARE COMING AND GUESS EDUCATED GUESS ON THOSE. AND THOSE ARE PROJECTS FOR THE HOLFORD SIDE. AGAIN WE'RE LOW END. WE'RE THINKING AT LEAST 75 MILLION PROJECTS, PROJECTIONS FOR THAT DATA CENTER AND THEN PROJECTIONS FOR THE FUTURE SOUTH GARLAND PROJECT. SO I WAS ONLY WANTING TO PUT IN PROJECTS I KNOW ARE COMING. I DID NOT WANT TO GUESS ON A MEDICAL FACILITY BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE. IT COULD BE TAX EXEMPT. IT COULD BE. SO I DIDN'T WANT TO EVEN START PUTTING IN HIGHER NUMBERS AGAIN, BECAUSE I WANT TO BE EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE ON THIS DOCUMENT IN ORDER TO O ENSURE TT WE MEET OUR BOND BOND REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE I WANT TO[01:05:05]
DESTROY THESE NUMBERS, ONE OF THEM TO BE MUCH HIGHER. OKAY, I GUESS, YEAH, I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUX COMMENTS, IS THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE SOUTH GARLAND IS CONTRIBUTING AND NOT REAPING ANY REWARDS. YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SHE DOESN'T WANT TO FEEL AND SHE HAS TO REPORT TO HER CONSTITUENTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY DON'T WANT HER TO VOTE TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM SOUTH GARLAND AND SHOVE IT UP IN NORTH GARLAND. SO THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME NUMBERS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, REFLECT THAT ISN'T HAPPENING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WHETHER THAT BE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WILL THE CONTRIBUTIOIONS T COMING FROM SOUTH GARLAND OR WHETHER THAT BE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE SET ASIDE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE GUARANTEED TO GO TO SOUTH GARLAND. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH I DO OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. YEAH. THERE'S REALLY TWO APPROACHES YOU CAN TAKE WITH TIF. SO AND TIFF CAN ACTUALLY BE NOT EVEN CONNECTED WITH EACH OTHER. YOU CAN HAVE NONCONTIGUOUS TIPS. YOU CAN HAVE ONE ZONE WITH VACANT LAND OVER IN NORTH PARK, BUT WE ADD IN VACANT PARKS. BUT WE WE'VE KIND OF ALWAYS CHOSE TO TIE IT TO SOME SORT OF ROADWAY OR SOME SORT OF PART OF, OF TOWN. AND AGAIN, THE IDEA WAS TO CREATE SYNERGY AMONGST ALL THREE SO THAT PROJECTS CAN GET DONE AND EVERYONE'S FEEDING OFF OF EACH OTHER. BUT IF THAT IS THE ROUTE YOU WANT TO GO DOWN TO, WHERE YOU'RE SEGREGATING THE DOLLARS TO EACH ONE. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OR MAYBE MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT THERE' AT LEAST THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE BORROWING, LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE MEDICAL DISTRICT MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE WE NEVER KNOW WHEN A PROJECT'S GOING TO COME AND WE NEVER KNOW HOW. YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE JUST LIKE THE STADIUM. IT FINALLY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR THREE YEARS, BUT IT SHOWED UP AND IT SHOWED UP QUICK, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO REACT. SO THAT'S JUST PROBABLY A SUGGESTION I WOULD MAKE. BUT IF I COULD ADD TO THAT THE LIKE THIS PLAN AND I PROBABLY DIDN'T SAY THIS WELL BEFORE, BUT THE PLAN WILL CHANGE WHENEVER THERE'S A PROJECT THAT COMES FORWARD, WHETHER IT'S IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, WHETHER IT'S IN SOUTH GARLAND, NORTH GARLAND, ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT THE TIF IS GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO, IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO THE TIF BOARD. IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL. THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT TIF FUNDING IS NOT THE ONLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDING THAT THE CITY HAS. WE IN THE CIP THAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING, THERE'S $58 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR SOUTH GARLAND REVITALIZATION PROJECTS SPECIFIC TO A SPECIFIC TO THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY HAS ACQUIRED AND THAT WE'VE ARE TARGETING FOR REDEVELOPMENT.THAT'S FROM 2019 BOND. THAT'S FROM DART CONTRIBUTIONS. SO THERE'S OTHER BUCKETS OF MONEY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IF THE WELL I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IF WHEN THE BOND PASSES IN IN MAY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOND THAT'S GOING TO OPEN UP BUCKETS OF MONEY AS WELL. SO JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT AS WELL. OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR OKAY. COUNCILOR HEDRICK, THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND COUNCILMAN BASS MENTIONED ONE THING. HE TALKED ABOUT DIVIDING IT UP INTO THREE SEPARATE TIFS WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE. AND I DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS DOINGG EXACTLYHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BRING IN MONEY FOR A QUOTE.
SHOVEL READY PROJECT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE, THAT REVENUE INCREASES AND THE PENDULUM WILL JUST SWING THROUGH THE MEDICAL DISTRICT SOUTH, AND IT WILL SWING BACK AND FORTH SO THAT $10 MILLION THAT MAY BE ONLY AVAILABLE TO SOUTH RIGHT NOW, AS MATT SAID, WE WANT TO DESTROY THOSE OR BLOW AWAY THOSE PROJECTIONS. IF THIS $43 MILLION RIGHT NOW GOING TO THE STADIUM IS ALL THAT WE NEED IN NORTH, THE BALANCE OF WHAT IS LEFT IN THESE CONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS CAN GO TOWARDS MEDICAL DISTRICT. THAT $88 MILLION THERE IS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE NET PRESENT VALUE. WE WANT TO MAKE THAT HOLE BY BORROWING FROM IT. THAT COULD GO UP OR DOWN BASED UPON IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL PROJECT, THAT WHOLE DOLLAR AMOUNT MAY NOT EVEN BE NEEDED. THAT $88 MILLION TO GET A HOSPITAL OR WHATEVER SHAPE A PROJECT MAY TAKE IN THAT DISTRICT. BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE GROWTH IN THE IF YOU DIVIDED IT UP AND DIDN'T HAVE THE GROWTH FROM THE STADIUM OR THE DATA CENTER, THERE WOULDN'T BE MUCH LEFT FOR SOUTH GARLAND BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE CONNECTED AT ALL.
WE SEE THE PROJECTIONS RIGHT HERE FOR THE BASE IN THE NEW PROJECTS IN SOUTH GARLAND, AND IT'S MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOR THE NORTH SIDE. SO ONCE WE GET THIS NORTH SIDE GOING, THAT PENDULUM CAN SWING TO THE SOUTH. SO IT JUST IT'S A MATTER OF TIME. AND THIS ONE JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO GO. SO I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY. AND I WANT DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE OLD HYPERMART SITE AS MUCH AS ANYONE BECAUSE THAT IS ESPECIALLY WHEN 635 IS COMPLETE, IT'S GOING TO BE RIPE. IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY NOT RIPE RIGHT NOW. BUT IT WILL HAPPEN. I'M CERTAIN THAT IT WILL. AND WITH ONLY TAKING $43 MILLION NOW FROM THE NORTH, THERE'LL BE LOTS OF REVENUE AVAILABLE IN THIS TIF FOR THE SOUTH. AND ALONG WITH THE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT CITY MANAGER MENTIONED THAT WE CAN USE IN CIP AND THE BOND IF IT
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PASSES. SO IT'LL HAPPEN. I, YOU KNOW, GUARANTEE YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNCILOR WILLIAMS. MATT, I WON'T REPEAT WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THE PLACEHOLDER THAT COUNCIL LADY LUCK SUGGESTED. IF WE PUT THAT PLACEHOLDER IN THERE, WHAT IMPACT WOULD IT HAVE ON THIS PROJECT? SPECIFIC. AND SOUTH GARLAND IN GENERAL. WHAT IF YOU IF YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU DON'T YOU HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED A PROJECT. YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS UNCERTAINTIES. BUT IF YOU SET A PLACEHOLDER, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE ISN'T ONE IN HERE. AND I CONCUR WITH THEIR COMMENTS. SURE. SO AGAIN, WE'RE RIGHT NOW AND THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE PROBABLY ONCE WE GET CERTIFIED VALUES THIS YEAR. SO LET ALONE IN THE NEXT 55 YEARS. SO RIGHT NOW THE PROJECTIONS FOR SOUTH ARE SHOWING $23.2 MILLION OVER THROUGH 2055. I INTENTIONALLY TRIED, YOU CAN SEE AT THE BOTTOM IN 2055, ESSENTIALLY TRIED TO LEAVE OVER THAT AMOUNT IN THE ENDING FUND BALANCE FOR PROJECTS EITHER IN SOUTH REALLY FOR ANYWHERE IN THE DISTRICT. BUT KNOWING THAT THAT THAT'S MY REVENUE PROJECTION. MAKE SURE YOU LEAVE THAT IN THE FUND BALANCE. SO THAT TO SAY THIS ONE, BY DOING THAT, IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS OR THE TIF CASH AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT TYING UP. SO I'M PROJECTING $53 MILLION FOR THE BONDS PLUS INTEREST, PLUS THE $4 MILLION OF CASH. AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT EATING INTO THAT, I'M NOT PROJECTING THAT WILL IMPACT THIS PROJECT AT ALL. FOR SOUTH GARLAND, SETTING ASIDE THE MONEY FOR A SOUTH GARLAND PROJECT NOW, WHAT WILL IT DO TO BENEFIT SOUTH GARLAND? THAT'S HARD TO SAY, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH AND FOUND A DEVELOPMENT. WHEN WE FIND A DEVELOPMENT, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING NECESSARY TO BRING THAT DEVELOPER HERE. SO IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT IMPACT THAT WILL GIVE TO SOUTH GARLAND. BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE THE INTENT OF THIS TIF IS TO CHANGE IT PERIODICALLY. WE WANT WE WROTE IT VERY VAGUE. AND YOU CAN'T BE VAGUE IN THE TIFF PROJECT PLAN. BUT WE DID THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BRING PROJECTS BACK WHEN THEY'RE SHOVEL READY TO GO. SO I CAN'T TELL YOU THE IMPACT THAT IT WILL HAVE IN SOUTH GARLAND BY ADDING THE MONEY, OTHER THAN IT WILL SEGREGATE IT, THAT IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR SOUTH GARLAND. WHEN WE GET A PROJECT. AND IF YOU IF YOU DON'T, COULD YOU REVERSE THAT LATER ON? IS THAT A REVERSIBLE DECISION? YES. WE CAN CHANGE THIS TIFF PLAN AT ANY TIME, AS LONG AS IT'S A RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM THE TIFF BOARD. SO THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND APPROVE THE PROVE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO APPROVE THEIR RECOMMENDATION OR DENY IT. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. VERY GOOD. AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. OKAY. SO IS 88.7 OR 47, 45.7 MILLION SEGREGATED AND ALLOCATED TO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT RIGHT NOW IN THIS PLAN, IN THIS PLAN, IN THIS PLAN, WE WROTE IT THAT THE MEDICAL DISTRICT MONEY ORIGINALLY FOUR YEARS AGO, THE MEDICAL DISTRICT MONEY WILL GO BACK INTO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. SO THE INTENT WAS STILL TO SAY THAT THAT THE MEDICAL DISTRICT MONEY WILL GO BACK INTO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. OKAY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE PENDULUM. I KNOW THAT EVENTUALLY SOUTH GARLAND WILL BE DEVELOPED AND THAT THERE ARE OTHER BUCKETS THAT WE CAN BORROW FROM. MY PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN OUT IS THAT SOUTH GARLAND IS NOT MENTIONED AT ALL. YOU HAVE MENTION OF THE STADIUM. YOU HAVE MENTION OF THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. THERE'S NOTHING TO SOUTH. EVEN IF YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE SOME OF THESE FUNDS WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO SOUTH GARLAND, I WOULD BE MUCH HAPPIER. BUT WITH NO MENTION OF SOUTH GARLAND AT ALL. WHETHER WE CHANGE THE TIFF IN THE FUTURE OR NOT, IT'S STILL NOT MENTIONED.AND THAT'S MY TT'S MY BEEF WITH THE WHOLE THING. I, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF MONEY. I'M NOT SAYING EVERYBODY HAS TO GET AN EQUAL SHARE OF THIS AND THAT. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT. I ONCE SOMETHING SAID IN THIS, IN THIS PROJECT TO IDENTIFY THAT, YES, EVENTUALLY SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN IN SOUTH GARLAND AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEET AGAIN,
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CHANGE THE PROJECT PLANS AND ALLOCATE THAT MONEY TO SOUTH GARLAND. BUT HERE, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOTHING. IT'S JUST NOT THERE. AND IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE I'M ONLY SHOWING YOU AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ALL OF Y'ALL IF I GOT Y'ALL A COPY OF THE TIFF PLAN, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE KEEP BUCKETS OF MONEY. SO THE WAY THE TIFF PROJECT PLAN READS WHEN YOU GET INTO THE PROJECT SECTION IS $150 MILLION FOR NORTH AND SOUTH FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES TO BE DETERMINED AT A FUTURE DATE. WE ARE NOW PULLING THIS PORTION OUT AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL OUT STADIUM. SO IT'S LIKE A BIG FUND BALANCE.SO IT'S SOUTH GARLAND'S MENTIONED IN THE DOCUMENT. I'M ONLY SHOWING YOU AMENDMENTS.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE HELPFUL, I THINK. OKAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TIME TO GET THAT DONE. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON A PRETTY TIGHT SCHEDULE HERE. WELL, WE CAN I MEAN, IF COUNCIL IF THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, Y'ALL WANT US BACK AT THE OR WANT ME TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION, I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THAT. YEAH. THE PLAN WAS TO BRING THIS BACK FOR A VOTE UNTIL FEBRUARY 18TH. SO WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE WEEKS. OFF IN. THE ATTORNEY SHOWED UP.
I HATE TO BRING UP PROCEDURE BECAUSE OF THE DEBATE TONIGHT, BUT TECHNICALLY, BEFORE COUNCIL GETS TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO WHAT THE TIFF THREE ALREADY DECIDED WAS THEIR PLAN, KEEP IN MIND THIS IS THEIR PLAN, Y'ALL. Y'ALL APPROVE IT. IT NEEDS TO GO TO THEM FIRST AND THEN Y'ALL CAN. Y'ALL CAN APPROVE THAT AMENDMENT. THEY HAVE TO VOTE ON IT FIRST IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT. SO TO THAT POINT, AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED EARLIER, IS THERE THE ABILITY TO WELL, HOLD ON. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TWO COMPETING IDEAS GOING HERE. FROM WHAT MATT JUST SAID, THE PLAN SHOWS THAT IT'S NOT THE AMENDMENTS. SO FOR THE IF MATT CAN SHOW US THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THAT THAT SATISFIES THE SOUTH GARLAND CONCERN, THE TIFF BOARD DOES NOT HAVE TO MEET BECAUSE THAT IS NOT BEING CHANGED. SO WHEN WE WOULD COME BACK ON THE 18TH, WE WOULD APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS. AS LONG AS THE SOUTH GARLAND CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND THE TIFF BOARD WOULD NOT NEED TO MEET AGAIN. IF THE COUNCIL IS DESIRING TO MAKE SURE THAT SOUTH GARLAND IS MENTIONED IN THE PLAN OVERALL, AND NOT NECESSARILY THIS LATEST AMENDMENT, KEEP IN MIND THE AMENDMENTS JUST BEING INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN. IF THAT'S IF THAT'S IF THAT'S SATISFIED, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUKE AND THAT, THEN YEAH. THEN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE TIFF BOARD AT THAT POINT. SO WITH THAT IN MIND. CAN THAT INFORMATION BE PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL PRIOR TO THE 18TH OR WE CAN BRING THIS BACK IN THE WORK SESSION BEFORE THE 18TH, AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION THERE. SO IS THAT IS THAT A FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVE. YES, SIR.
AND AGAIN DOES NOT. AND I APPRECIATE THE TIFF BOARD GOING HEY MAN, CALL US AND WE'LL MEET.
THERE'S A LOT OF YOU CAN'T EVEN DO THAT WITH US ACTUALLY. UNDERSTAND. AND WE KNOW THE TOTAL PLAN. RIGHT. WE'RE ONLY ASKING TO AMEND THIS SMALL PORTION. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM. AND I AND I AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT AND CERTAINLY AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO GET THE GROUP TOGETHER AND IF NEEDED. SO I DO HAVE MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE IN THE QUEUE. LET'S BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP, SIR, I THINK THAT YOU'VE SUMMARIZED WHERE I AM AT THIS POINT PERFECTLY, AND THAT IS THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF HOW THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED. BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE A COUNCIL PERSON AT THIS POINT WHO HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO A CONSTITUENCY. AND HER CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS THERE IS NO MENTION OF SOUTH GARLAND HERE. AND ALL SHE'S ASKING IS GO BACK, PUT SOME MENTION IN THERE ABOUT SOUTH GARLAND, HOW THE MONEY WILL BE ALLOCATED IN THE FUTURE, AND WE'RE READY TO GO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. SO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS IS AT THE NEXT AT THE NEXT INFORMATION SESSION. THE NEXT WORK SESSION. LET'S BRING THIS BACK, SHOW THE OVERALL THE DOCUMENTS, THE DEDICATION OF NORTH, SOUTH. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. AND THEN IF THERE'S IF THERE'S NOT ANY, IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING THAT COMES FROM THAT, THEN IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD FOR
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CONSIDERATION ON THE 18TH. ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT. AND AGAIN THANK YOU TO THE TIFF BOARD NUMBER THREE. ALL RIGHT. WE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX[6. Discussion and Final Direction on 2025 Proposed Capital Improvement Program (CIP) City Council will continue the discussion and provide final direction to Staff on the 2025 Proposed Capital Improvement Program (CIP). If changes have been proposed to the CIP by City Council during the discussions in January, Staff will provide an overview of any/all proposed changes received to date. ]
DISCUSSION AND FINAL DIRECTION OF 2025. PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. COME ON IN HERE ALLISON. I FEEL LIKE THREE MONTHS AGO SHE DIDN'T LIKE THIS MONTH I CAN'T. LET'S NOT USE THE TERM POPPED OUT. SHE SHE DOES THIS THE LAST TIME SHE. YEAH. I'LL TRY. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE START YOUR YOU START YOUR GOOD EVENING BEFORE THIS GOES ANY FURTHER OUT OF THE. I FEEL LIKE WE MAY BE GETTING INTO HIPAA GUIDELINE TERRITORY AT ANY MOMENT, SO NO PROBLEM AT ALL.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO PROVIDE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES DISCUSSED TO THE 2025 PROPOSED CIP TO DATE. FIRST OF THOSE IS STAFF IS REQUESTING THE ADDITION OF $250,000 IN 2025 TO THE EXISTING FACILITIES IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM. THE CITY RECEIVED A GRANT THROUGH THE STATE ENERGY CONSERVATION OFFICE TO RETROFIT CITY BUILDINGS WITH ENERGY EFFICIENT LIGHTING. THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED TO PRIMARILY TAKE PLACE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING, SO FACILITIES MANAGEMENT WILL BE EXECUTING THIS WORK IN 2025 TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE DEBT. THE GRANT DEADLINE OF AUGUST 2025. SO WE ARE REQUESTING TO INCREASE THE TAX SUPPORTED CIP AND THE 2025 APPROPRIATION OF THE MUNICIPAL FACILITIES AND MISCELLANEOUS TAX SUPPORTED SECTION BY THAT 250,000, WITH NO IMPACT TO THE DEBT ISSUANCE PLAN FOR 2025. MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND CHANGE DISCUSSED WAS COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS REQUESTED A NEW PROJECT BE ADDED TO THE 2025 PROPOSED CIP TO ADDRESS DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.
WE RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 11TH THAT THAT SATURDAY WORK SESSION TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH INCORPORATING THAT CHANGE INTO THE FIVE YEAR PLAN SO THAT GATEWOOD DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT CIP PROJECT HAS AN ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF ABOUT $6.7 MILLION. STAFF IS PROPOSING THE USE OF CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION DEBT TO FUND THAT PROJECT THAT WILL BE SERVICED BY THE STORMWATER RATE IN A FUTURE YEAR, THAT STORMWATER DRAINAGE CAPACITY IN THE DEBT DONUT WE KEEP REFERENCING WILL BE REDUCED BY ADDING THIS PROJECT, TO BE FUNDED BY THE STORMWATER RATE FROM 43.2 MILLION TO 36.5 MILLION. THIS PROJECT IS PROJECTED TO START IN Q1 OF 2027. THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE CHANGE TO THE APPROPRIATION YOU'RE ADOPTING TOMORROW NIGHT, BUT THE CIP FIVE YEAR PLAN WILL INCREASE OVERALL FROM 1.69 BILLION TO 1.7 BILLION. THIS NEXT SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE CHANGE TO THE 2025 APPROPRIATION BY PROGRAM AREA. WITH THAT INCREASE IN THE FACILITIES AND MISCELLANEOUS TAX SUPPORTED SECTION, INCREASING 250,000 TO 18.2 MILLION, WITH THE TOTAL 2025 PROPOSED TAX SUPPORTED PROGRAM AREA TOTALING 239.5 MILLION. THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING NO CHANGES TO OUR UTILITY AND INTERNAL SERVICE AREA PROGRAM AREAS. THOSE PROGRAM AREAS HAVE A TOTAL OF 335.3 MILLION FOR 2025. THE 2025 PROPOSED CIP IS SCHEDULED FOR A FINAL PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPTION TOMORROW NIGHT. THE. WITH THE CHANGES PRESENTING TONIGHT, THE 2025 PROPOSED CIP, THE 2025 CIP WILL TOTAL 574.8 MILLION. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNCIL FOR ANY FINAL DIRECTION OR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. AND COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, THANK YOU, ALLISON AND MATT, I JUST ONE QUESTION. THERE WERE SOME THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION. ABOUT THAT AMENDED ITEM YOU HAD UP THERE ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PROJECT. AND THERE WAS SOME
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DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY MOVING THAT. INTO FY 26 START DATE. CAN YOU EDUCATE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE AS TO THAT WAS DISCUSSED? STILL IS. I THINK CRYSTAL IS GOING TO COME SOMEBODY SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY WE FINALLY LANDED ON THAT DATE. I'M NOT THAT I'M OUT OF SHAPE, BUT I JUST NEED TO KNOW.GOOD EVENING. SO IF YOU RECALL, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES THAT WE HAD IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THIS PROCT. AND BASED ON THE RESOURCES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, OUR COMMITMENT WAS TO BRING THIS BACK IN 2020, AT THE END OF 2025, WHEN WE'RE PREPARING FOR 2026 FOR CONSIDERATION AT THAT TIME, IF WE SHOULD HAVE THE RESOURCES.
OTHERWISE, WE WERE GOING TO HOLD TO THE 2027 START DATE. OKAY, SO THAT MEANS WE DID NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES. RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT, SIR. RIGHT. AND I'M TALKING HUMAN RESOURCES. I'M NOT TALKING FUNDING RESOURCES. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WHAT YOU MEAN BY RESOURCES. YEAH. THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AT THE LAST CIP WORK SESSION WAS TO KEEP THAT 2027 START DATE, BUT COME BACK AND REVIEW IT WITH WITH YOU NEXT YEAR DURING CIP LATE 2025 EARLY 2026. OKAY OKAY. SO IT'S THAT'S WHAT'S IN THERE NOW. BUT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK DURING THE CIP PROCESS NEXT YEAR AND SEE IF SEE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO MOVE IT UP IN THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING ELSE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU CRYSTAL. OKAY. EXCUSE ME. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. CRYSTAL.
SEEING NONE. SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SCHEDULE FOR TOMORROW EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THAT WAS OUR LAST VERBAL BRIEFING ITEM. NEXT IS ITEM SEVEN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THE CITY COUNCIL WILL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 5.5, 1.07155, 1.07255, 1.074 AND FIVE FIVE, 1.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ONE. PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, EVALTION OR DUTIES OF THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY AUDITOR, AND MUNICIPAL JUDGES AND ATTORNEY. CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING PRIVILEGED AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION RELATED TO SAME. TWO A POTENTIAL OFFER BY THE CITY OF FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVES TO A BUSINESS PROSPECT, AND THE RECEIPT OF COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM FROM THAT SAME BUSINESS PROSPECT WHICH THE CITY SEEKS TO LOCATE WITHIN THE CITY AND WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO THE SAME. HOW'D YOU LIKE ALL THAT? DID I JUST READ? I SKIPPED
[ ANNOUNCE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS A Councilmember, with a second by another member or the Mayor alone, may ask that an item be placed on a future agenda of the City Council or of a committee of the City Council. No substantive discussion of that item will take place at this time.]
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. YOU SHOULD. YOU SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT ME AT ITEM ONE. I WAS JUST SITTING THERE LISTENING. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT MAYBE AN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE ABOUT ANY SIGNAGE THAT'S PUT OUT BY THE CITY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, ZONING CASES THAT IN IN NEIGHBORHOODS, THOSE ARE PUT IN TWO LANGUAGES.INSTEAD OF JUST IN ENGLISH. SURE. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON. THANK YOU.
YEAH, SURE. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. SORRY. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON, I WOULD LIKE TO. I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD DO IT. PROBABLY AUDIT COMMITTEE, DO AN AUDIT ON OUR CONTRACTORS. I WOULD LIKE I'M. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW OFTEN THEY'RE HITTING GAS LINES IN THE CITY BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING A LOT RIGHT NOW. YES. OKAY. I THINK I MEAN, AS FAR AS AUDITING, I'M THINKING WE PROBABLY HAVE RECORDS OF THAT THAT COULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO US IN A REPORT. YEAH, WE HAVE WE CERTAINLY HAVE DATA ON THAT ONE. YEAH. I MEAN I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT AN AUDIT IS I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF WHEN GAS LINES ARE HIT. SO. OKAY, WELL WHATEVER IT REQUIRES
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OR DOESN'T REQUIRE OKAY. SO I THINK THAT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT IS AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK SECOND. BUT I THINK WE CAN BRING THAT FORWARD. I MEAN ONE I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY JUST SEND THE HAVE THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AND THEN IF THAT GENERATES FURTHER DISCUSSI, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT. AND ANYTHING ELSE ON UNDER FUTURE AGENDA. NO. ALL RIGHT I'M GOING TO GO BACK NOW TO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. I THINK I GOT[ EXECUTIVE SESSION]
THROUGH ITEM TWO, ITEM THREE UNDER THAT SECTION WILL BE ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO THE CITY'S OBLIGATIONS AND DUTIES UNDER FEDERAL AND STATE LAW REGARDING CERTAIN LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. WE WILL TAKE A SHORT RECESS JUST TO CLEAR THE ROOM.LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK AT
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