Mar 04, 2025 City Council

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MARCH 4TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. IT IS A CUSTOM AND TRADITION OF THIS COUNCIL TO HAVE AN INVOCATION AND RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING, LED BY ONE OF OUR MEMBERS. YOU ARE NOT.

YOU ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU SO CHOOSE, BUT YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN EITHER OR BOTH. AND YOUR DECISION IS STRICTLY A MATTER OF YOUR OWN, AND IT WON'T HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE DECISIONS WE MAKE HERE THIS EVENING. TONIGHT WE WILL BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON FROM DISTRICT SIX. OKAY. AM I ON? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT A WELCOME TO MARCH THAT WE HAD THIS MORNING. IN JUST UNDER. JUST UNDER A YEAR. WE'VE HAD TWO OPPORTUNITIES TO WHAT DOROTHY FELT LIKE ON HER. HER FANTASTIC VOYAGE. NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE. SO WHILE THIS MORNING SENIOR TRIP TO OZ SAW WIND SPEEDS OVER 50MPH, OUR OUTAGE, OUR POWER OUTAGES AND OVERALL DAMAGE WAS AT A MINIMUM. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR CREWS, OUR SANITATION DEPARTMENT AND OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO FOR US HERE IN GARLAND.

SOMETIMES IT IS A THANKLESS JOB, BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT WE DO APPRECIATE YOU. WITH THAT BEING SAID, OUR SANITATION DEPARTMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP. WHILE YOU'RE CLEARING AWAY DEBRIS FROM THIS STORM OR JUST KNOCKING OUT SOME HONEYDEWS THIS WEEKEND, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE NEED YOU TO DO. PLEASE SEPARATE ALL THE DEBRIS FROM YOUR REGULAR TRASH. OH. LET'S SEE. CUT TREE LIMBS AND BRANCHES INTO SECTIONS NO LONGER THAN SIX FEET. BUT I DO HEAR 4 TO 6FT. MAKES THEM A LITTLE EXTRA HAPPY. IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE YOUR DRIS IS AT LEAST FOUR FEET AWAY FROM ALL OBJECTS, INCLUDING VEHICLES, TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY ACCESS IT WITHOUT DAMAGINGOUR CARS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND FINALLY, I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT OUR BONDS THAT WILL BE ON YOUR MAY 3RD BALLOT. SO WE ARE DOING A TOWN HALL. I'M HOLDING A TOWN HALL. THIS THURSDAY AT HOLLABAUGH REC CENTER, 6:30 P.M. TO GO OVER ALL OF THE BOND PROPOSITIONS THAT WILL BE ON YOUR BALLOT TO VOTE FOR. SO I HOPE YOU CAN JOIN ME. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. GO AHEAD. YES. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT. CAN SOMEBODY SEE THAT? OH, YEAH. PODIUM MIC. LIKE IT SAYS ON. THERE WE GO. SORRY. NO I DIDN'T. HAVE IT DOWN MORE, SO. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WELCOME

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CURLY FRY IS APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR OLD. SHE'S A SPAYED FEMALE SHIH TZU. SHE CAME INTO OUR SHELTER ABOUT LASAST WEEK, AND E CAN COME OFF AS SHY, BUT SHE'S VERY, VERY, VERY SWEET AND KIND ONCE YOU GET TO KNOW HER. A FUN LITTLE FACT ABOUT HER THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS THAT SHE IS A INFLUENTIAL FIGURE IN THE ML, WHICH IS THE MAJOR LEAGUE EATING COMPETITION, AND SHE HAS THREE WINS UNDER THE NATHAN'S FAMOUS INTERNATIONAL HOT DOG EATING CONTEST WITH A TOTAL OF 52. THAT'S IMPRESSIVE, ISN'T IT? YEAH. HER ADOPTION FEE RIGHT NOW IS $25, AND THAT INCLUDES

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CURRENTLY, FRY IS HEARTWORM POSITIVE. BUT THANKS TO THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF OUR FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS, HER HEARTWORM TREATMENT WILL BE AT NO COST TO THE ADOPTER. THAT IF YOU COME THROUGH US. IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN SEEING HER, WHICH I'M SURE ALL OF YOU GUYS DO.

PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO SET UP AN APPOINTMENT WITH US. WE'RE OPEN EVERY DAY BUT WEDNESDAYS, AND WE'RE OPEN FROM 11 TO 6. SO PLEASE, IF YOU REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU SEE, PLEASE COME SEE HER.

AND WE GOT A AMUR TOWARDS THE CAMERA HERE. SO THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. SHE'S A SWEET LITTLE THING, BUT I PROMISE YOU, SHE CAN EAT. AND IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING AN APPOINTMENT AND SEEING HER HER A NUMBER IS A279828. THANK YOU GUYS I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. 279828. HOW YOU SAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP WE HAVE A RECOGNITION FOR NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE. I THINK WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF FOLKS HERE. CAITLYN AND SUE.

FROM OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT. I EVEN GOT SIGNS. YEAH, MAN. THIS IS AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS IN HONOR OF NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE MONTH. WHEREAS LITTER IS A PERSISTENT ISSUE THAT IMPACACTS THE BEAUTY AND HEALTH OF COMMUNITIES ACROSS TEXAS, POLLUTING LAND AND WATER BODIES, ENDANGERING WILDLIFE, AND COMPROMISING THE QUALITY OF DRINKING WATER SOURCES IN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS. AND WHEREAS THE REMOVAL OF LITTER AND ILLEGAL DUMPING IMPOSES A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL BURDEN ON LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WITH A 2016 STUDY SHOWING THAT NINE TEXAS COMMUNITIES REPRESENTING 25% OF THE STATE POPULATION, SPENT APPROXIMATELY $50 MILLION ANNUALLY ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE. AND WHEREAS, RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY GROUPS, AND SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING OPPORTUNITIES TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION BY ENGAGING IN EDUCATION, COLLABORATION AND VOLUNTEER LED CLEANUP EFFORTS. AND WHEREAS, THE NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE SERVES AS A CALL TO ACTION UNITING RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS IN A REGIONAL CLEANUP INITIATIVE TAKING PLACE DURING THE MONTHS OF MARCH, APRIL, AND MAY TO COMBAT LITTER AND PROMOTE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF GARLAND PROUDLY SUPPORTS THE NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE AND ENCOURAGES ITS RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, AND ORGANIZATIONS TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE AND REPORT THEIR CLEANUP ACTIVITIES, CONTRIBUTING TO THE HEALTH AND SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR LOCAL ENVIRONMENT AND WATER SOURCES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, SCOTT LEMAY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF GARLAND, ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, I DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTHS OF MARCH, APRIL AND MAY AS NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY CLEAN UP CHALLENGE MONTHS AND WE ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON HOW THEY CAN DO THAT? ABSOLUTELY. IT'S PERFECT. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS JOSE DIAZ AND I SERVE AS THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. I'M HERE TODAY WITH CAITLIN GODFREY, AN OUTREACH SPECIALIST WITH OUR VOLUNTEER OFFICE. AND TOGETHER WE ARE EXCITED TO INVITE THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHALLENGE, A CITYWIDE EFFORT TO KEEP GARLAND CLEAN AND BEAUTIFUL. GARLAND IS COMPETING AGAINST OTHER NORTH TEXAS CITIES IN THIS FRIENDLY COMPETITION, AND WE NEED YOUR HELP. FROM MARCH 1ST TO MAY 31ST, WE ARE ASKING INDIVIDUALS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO TAKE ACTION BY COLLECTING LITTER ACROSS THE CITY. THE MORE WE CLEAN, THE BETTER CHANCES WE HAVE OF WINNING AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE GREATER THE IMPACT WE HAVE ON OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS TO JOIN US IN THESE EFFORTS. IF YOU, YOUR ORGANIZATION OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW WOULD LIKE TO HOST OR JOIN A CLEANUP, PLEASE CONTACT OUR VOLUNTEER OFFICE BY EMAILING. VOLUNTEER AT GARLAND TX GOV OR CALLING (972) 205-3583. WE HAVE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN, INCLUDING THE MARCH CLEANUP. WE HAVE JOHN PAUL JONES PARK CLEANUP ON SATURDAY, MARCH 29TH FROM 8 A.M. TO NOON. HEALTH PARK IS SCHEDULED IN APRIL AND WE HAVE THE BIG DUCK CREEK CLEANUP

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THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING IN GARLAND, AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE PART OF THE MOVEMENT. TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. FOR MORE INFORMATION OR TO SIGN UP, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US AT VOLUNTEER AT GARLAND, TX. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL OF YOU THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. AND DO WE HAVE DOYLE RADER HERE FROM RED CROSS? RADER? YOU'RE NOT WITH THE RED CROSS. ALL RIGHT, FAIR ENOUGH. HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? HOW ARE YOU? VERYOOD. VERY GOOD. DOMINIC. VERY GOOD.

THIS IS RECOGNITION FOR AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH. WHEREAS EACH MARCH, THE AMERICAN RED CROSS RECOGNIZES THE COMPASSION OF PEOPLE NATIONWIDE AND CELEBRATES THEIR COMMITMENT TO CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER IN TIMES OF CRISIS. WHEREAS THE ANNUAL TRADITION HAS OCCURRED SINCE 1943, WHEN PRESIDENT FRANKLIN D ROOSEVELT ISSUED THE FIRST RED CROSS MONTH PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS EVERY DAY, 65 KINDHEARTED GARLAND RESIDENTS PUT ON A RED CROSS VEST AND PROVIDE A BEACON OF HOPE FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS. AND WHEREAS LAST YEAR THE RED CROSS ASSISTED 36 GARLAND FAMILIES WHILE RESPONDING TO 17 HOME FIRES AND OTHER OTHER DISASTERS TO DELIVER SHELTER, FOOD AND COMFORT. AND WHEREAS THE RED CROSS COLLECTED MORE THAN 300 UNITS OF BLOOD AT GARLAND BLOOD DRIVE IN 2024, ENSURING NEW MOMS, CANCER PATIENTS AND ACCIDENT VICTIMS HAVE ACCESS TO LIFE SAVING BLOOD. AND WHEREAS IN 2024, THE RED CROSS PROUDLY PROVIDED NEARLY 150 SERVICES TO GARLAND MILITARY MEMBERS, VETERANS, THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR CAREGIVERS TO COPE WITH THE CHALLENGES OF SERVICE. AND WHEREAS MORE THAN 425 PEOPLE ARE WERE ENROLLED IN RED CROSS FIRST AID, CPR AND AED TRAINING COURSES, HELPING MAKE GARLAND MORE PREPARED AND RESILIENT IN EMERGENCIES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, SCOTT LEMAY, ALONG WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, BY VIRTUE OF THIS AUTHORITY, DO PROCLAIM MARCH 2025 AS RED CROSS MONTH IN THE CITY OF GARLAND. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH US? ABSOLUTELY. LET ME PULL OUT MY NOTES HERE. THANK YOU. MAYOR SCOTT LEMAY AND THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS RECOGNITION. MY NAME IS DOMINIC MCCARTHY, AND I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE CHIEF VOLUNTEER SERVICES OFFICER FOR THE NORTH TEXAS REGION OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS. WE ARE HONORED TO PARTNER WITH YOU IN ALL CITY EMPLOYEES AND AGENCIES TO HELP MAKE GARLAND COMMUNITY SAFER, HEALTHIER, AND MORE RESILIENT. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE GENEROSITY OF THE GARLAND RESIDENTS WHO ENABLED THE RED CROSS TO ASSIST OUR MILITARY FAMILIES AND TO RESPOND AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE TO HELP THOSE IN NEED. AS WE CELEBRATE RED CROSS MONTH, WE THANK OUR VOLUNTEERS, R BLOOD DONORS, AND EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS OUR MISSION. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS TO PREVENT AND ALLEVIATE HUMAN SUFFERING IN THE FACE OF EMERGENCIES. BY MAKING A FINANCIAL DONATION, GIVING BLOOD, OR OF COURSE, WHAT IS MOST DEAR TO ME, VOLUNTEERING YOUR MOST PRECIOUS COMMODITY, WHICH IS YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE THIS YEAR TO REMAIN WITH US. EXCUSE.

ME. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GET STARTED WITH OUR AGENDA HERE THIS EVENING. JUST A QUICK NOTE

[ CONSENT AGENDA All items under this section are recommended for approval by a single motion of Council, without discussion. Council has had the opportunity to review each of these items at a previous Work Session, and approval of the consent agenda authorizes the City Manager or his designee to execute each item. The Mayor will announce the consent agenda and provide an opportunity for members of the audience, as well as Council, to request that any item be removed and considered separately.]

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DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. CONSTRUCTION AWARD. ITEM TWO E DESIGN CONTRACT FOR AMBERWOOD DRIVE AND SUGARBERRY LANE. PAVING, DRAINAGE AND UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS. ITEM TWO F FIRE STATION ONE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. ITEM TWO G WYLIE TO MALLARD TRANSMISSION LINE. STEEL STRUCTURES. ITEM 2HGL KING MOUNTAIN. 345 KV SWITCH STATION TERMINAL ENGINEERING SERVICES.

ITEM TWO I NEWMAN. 138 KV SUBSTATION EXPANSION. ENGINEERING SERVICES. ITEM 2JL NAAMAN TO NEWMAN 138 KV TRANSMISSION LINE REBUILD ENGINEERING SERVICES. ITEM TWO K APOLLO TO NAAMAN 138 KV TRANSMISSION LINE REBUILD ENGINEERING SERVICES. AND ITEM TWO L GPN L OHLINGER TWO EVAPORATION POND FLOOD MITIGATION. ITEM THREE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTS OF THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY AUDITOR, AND MUNICIPAL JUDGES.

ITEM FOUR ORDINANCE ADOPTING 2025 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. WE WILL SKIP ITEM FIVE. ITEM SIX SCHOOL STREET. ALLEY. PETITION. PROJECT. ITEM SEVEN NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT. FALL 2024 APPLICATIONS. AND ITEM EIGHT, A PUBLIC HEARING WAS PREVIOUSLY CONDUCTED FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONING CASE. COUNCIL APPROVED THE ZONING REQUEST AND INSTRUCTED STAFF TO BRING FORTH THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE. ITEM EIGHT A WAS CASE Z 2444 YESENIA MORALES IN DISTRICT EIGHT. THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE NO OTHER ITEMS BEING PULLED.

COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. I WOULD LIKE TMAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH ITEM FIVE. VOTE YES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM. MORE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT ITEM FIVE. COUNCIL OR MADAM SECRETARY, PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US, PLEASE. SORRY. COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER. DUTTON.

THERE WE GO. AND DISPLAY THE VOTE. AND THAT IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE

[5. Agreement for Real Property Contract of Sale Between The Owl Icehouse Garland LLC and the City of Garland Regarding Property Located at 519 State Street in the Downtown Historic Sub-district. Approve a Development Agreement and Real Property Contract of Sale between The Owl Icehouse Garland LLC and the City of Garland regarding property located at 519 State Street in the Downtown Historic Sub-district. Council was previously briefed on this item at the March 3, 2025 Work Session.]

COUNCIL MEMBERS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, ANDY AND I WILL BE TAG TEAMING THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT. SIMILAR TO LAST NIGHT. OUR CFO UNFORTUNATELY HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY AND WILL NOT BE HERE, SO I'LL. I'LL DO THE BEST OF ACTING AS A CFO AS I CAN TONIGHT. I WANTED TO START OUT WITH A WITH REWINDING THE CLOCK A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROJECT TIMELINE. WHEN DEALING WITH 519 STATE STREET AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR TONIGHT. SO STARTING BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2023, OF COURSE, THAT WAS WHEN THE CITY APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF 519 STATE STREET AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO GO ALONG WITH THAT. AND I'LL READ A PORTION OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE IT'S IT PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN IN HOW THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD FROM, FROM

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WE STARTED A MARKET STUDY AND COMMUNITY SURVEY TO HELP US IDENTIFY WHAT THE TOP PROSPECTS FOR BUSINESSES WOULD BE DOWNTOWN. AND SO ONCE THE KIND OF THROUGH SUMMER 2024 WENT THROUGH, GATHERED THAT MARKET INFORMATION AND STUDY PRESENTED THAT TO COUNCIL, I BELIEVE IN AUGUST OF 24 AND THEN STARTED THE RFQ PROCESS WITH THAT INFORMATION IN MIND. OPENED UP THAT RFQ PROCESS AND THE REASON WHY WE CHOSE THAT RFQ PROCESS ONE IS FOR TRANSPARENCY SAKE AND FAIRNESS SAKE, SO THAT ANY DEVELOPER OR PRIVATE DEVELOPER THAT WANTED TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY ON THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, SAY, RAISE THEIR HAND FORMALLY AND SAY, WE'RE INTERESTED IN THAT PROCESS. WE'D LIKE TO BE A PART OF IT. AND WHAT HAPPENED IS, TOWARD THE END OF OCTOBER, WHEN THAT PROCESS WAS SCHEDULED TO CLOSE, WE HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY SUBMISSIONS YET. AND SO WE DID EXTEND IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND NO SUBMISSIONS WERE FORMALLY RECEIVED THROUGH THAT PROCESS. HOWEVER, WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF LEADS. AND LEADS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TERM FOR DEVELOPERS THAT ARE INTERESTED, BUT MAYBE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THE STEP TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, OR OTHERWISE DIDN'T SUBMIT A PROPOSAL. THE RFQ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RFQ PROCESS, BECAUSE I KNOW THE QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP ABOUT THAT. THAT RFQ WAS PROVIDED TO ANYBODY. IT'S ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. ANYTIME WE DO A REQUEST FOR BIDS OR REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR AN RFQ, IT'S POSTED IN OUR PROCUREMENT PORTAL AND BASED ON BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HITS WE GOT, AS FAR AS YOU HAVE TO LOG IN TO THAT PORTAL TO ACTUALLY SEE THE RFQ. AND SO WE DO KNOW THAT 167 PEOPLE OR INDIVIDUALS, COMPANIES, FIRMS, DEVELOPERS, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PHRASE IT, ACCESSED THAT RFQ. NOW AGAIN, NO SUBMITTED FOR IT.

BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF LEADS THAT WERE THAT WERE PROVIDED DURING THAT PROCESS. BASED ON THAT, OF COURSE, WE VET THOSE LEADS THROUGH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND, AND TRY

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THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE OF THE RFQ PROCESS. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ANDY TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT OVERVIEW, AND THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO SOME FINANCIAL NUMBERS. THANK YOU SIR. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE RFQ IS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS AS OPPOSED TO AN RFP, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. THE RFQ IS THE WIDEST NET YOU CAN CAST THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO SUBMIT AND SHOW THEIR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO FROM THERE, THEN YOU WOULD SELECT FROM THAT QUALIFIED GROUP, YOU KNOW, ON VARIOUS ITEMS THAT WERE PUBLICLY POSTED IN OUR IN OUR BID PROCESS OR OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT. GOING INTO THE PROJECT OVERVIEW. SO ESSENTIALLY IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THAT WE HAVE PROCURED AND OWNED THE 519 STATE STREET. AND PROPOSING TONIGHT AS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OWL ICE HOUSE TO REDEVELOP THAT INTO A RESTAURANT AND ENTERTAINMENT SPACE. EVENT SPACE. WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS BASED ON THE APPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTY THAT WAS PERFORMED IN 2023, AND AGAIN EARLY THIS YEAR, JUST TO CONFIRM THEY WERE IDENTICAL APPRAISALS AT 740,000. SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THAT THAT BE PAID TO THE CITY BASED ON THAT APPRAISAL. AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. BUT THEN THAT ININCENTIVES REIMBURSED FOR THE QUALIFIED CONSTRUCTION COSTS TO DELIVER THAT PROJECT. THERE ARE CERTAIN STRINGS ATTACHED. THERE'S TIMELINES, THERE'S PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT. AND SO THE ICE HOUSE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN, IS PROPOSING 13,000FT■S, INCLUDING A SECOND STORY OVERLOOKING THE SQUARE.

THAT CAN BE FOR SEASON OPERATIONAL FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR. AND THAT INCLUDES RENTABLE EVENT SPACE TO THE PUBLIC UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS. SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS THAT STAFF EVALUATED AND THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A GREAT FIT. THIS PROJECT ALIGNS WITH THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT W WAS GATHERED GATHERED IN THE MARKET STUDY OR MARKET SURVEY THAT MISTER REX ALLUDED TO. AND WHAT THAT BASICALLY TELLS US IS WHAT THE DEMAND IS FOR A VARIETY OF DINING OPTIONS. AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THINGS THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DATE NIGHT RELATED CASUAL FARM TO TABLE BREAKFAST, BRUNCH, SCORED HIGH VIETNAMESE SEVERAL THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT IN A VARIETY OF DINING OPTIONS IN A DESTINATION LIKE A DOWNTOWN. THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AT 519 IS SUITED FOR RESTAURANT SPACE AS WELL AS EVENTS. WE THINK THAT IT WILL ATTRACT NEW VISITORS THAT WILL COMPLEMENT EXISTING BUSINESSES. WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC DETAILS ON THAT IN A FEW MINUTES. FAMILY FRIENDLY DINING, ROOFTOP SEATING, ETCETERA. WE REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS FOOT TRAFFIC IS ADDITIONAL FOOT TRAFFIC. WE'RE NOT COMPETING FOR EXISTING CUSTOMERS. WE'RE HOPING TO ATTRACT EXISTING OR ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS. AND SO WE FEEL THAT THE RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL SHIPS, THAT THERE'LL BE PLENTY TO GO AROUND. PART OF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL THAT GOT THEM VERY EXCITED AND CAUSED THEM TO REACH OUT AND APPROACH THE CITY IS THE WAY THAT THE SQUARE WAS DESIGNED, IS A VERY FAMILY FRIENDLY DESIGN, WITH THE FEATURES OF THE PLAY AREAS AND THE OPEN LAWN AND JUST THE GENERAL FAMILY APPEAL THAT IT THAT IT HAS. ANOTHER INTERESTING FEATURE THAT THAT THEY'LL ELABORATE ON TONIGHT IS THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN ACCENTUATING THE LOCAL HISTORY FOR BOTH THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE CITY, THE SCHOOL'S NAMESAKE. THAT THEY'VE INCORPORATED INTO THEIR MENUS. THEIR DESIGN FEATURES, HENCE THE NAME THE OWL. AND THEN LASTLY, THIS DEVELOPER IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT THEY BRING IS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF REVITALIZING TEXAS DOWNTOWN PROPERTIES BY UNDERSTANDING HOW TO BUILD DESTINATION EXPERIENCES. AND IT IS A PACKAGE DEAL. IT IS MULTIPLE RESTAURANT OFFERINGS THAT BRING MULTIPLE RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES. WE'RE ALSO PURSUING OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR RERESIDENTIAAND SO FORTH AS WE LOOK AT GROWING THE DOWNTOWN.

AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL IN MCKINNEY, FREDERICKSBURG AND DENISON. SO IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO MCKINNEY, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS THAT THIS DEVELOPER HAS HAS REDEVELOPED, BUT IT IS IN THE MANY 50, 60 OR SO. SO HERE'S A QUICK DRAFT OF WHAT'S

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AND I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO MR. REX FOR THE REST OF THE CONTEXT. THANKS, ANDY. SO I DID WANT TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE. ANDY REFERRED TO THE DEVELOPER AND SOME OF THEIR PAST PROJECTS AND THEIR PAST COMMUNITIES. THE CITY NAME OF DENISON WAS PUT OUT THERE. I USED TO BE THE CITY MANAGER OF DENISON. AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE THINKING THAT THERE'S A CONSPIRACY HERE, THAT I BROUGHT A DEVELOPER FROM DENISON TO HERE, FIRST TIME I MET THE DEVELOPERS WAS ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AGO HERE IN GARLAND. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR PATHS DIDN'T CROSS IN DENISON. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT PROJECTS THERE TO HELP REVITALIZE DOWNTOWN, AND I HOPE THEY CAN DO THE SAME HERE.

SO LOOKING AT THE TOOLS, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN GARLAND FOR OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. MANY YEARS AGO, THE CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL SET UP A DOWNTOWN FACADE AND REVITALIZATION PROGRAM. THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH THE TIF. IT'S HELPED OUT OVER A DOZEN DIFFERENT BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN AND AWARDED OVER $700,000 IN GRANTS FOR BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS FOR LARGER PROJECTS, MEANING THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO CREATE A DESTINATION DOWNTOWN. MOST RECENTLY, WE PROVIDED FORTUNATE SON, THE RESTAURANT POPULAR PIZZA PLACE NOW IN HERE IN GARLAND. WITH A HALF $1 MILLION INCENTIVE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THEIR BUILDING. ABOUT 7400FT■S, THAT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT $67 PER SQUARE FOOT IN INCENTIVES. THE PROPOSAL FOR THE OWL ICE HOUSE, AT $740,000 IN INCENTIVE, BASED ON 13,000FT■S, WORKS OUT TO ABOT $57 PER SQUARE FOOT. SO AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT AND EXPLANATION BEHIND THE DIFFERENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS WE HAVE FOR DOWNTOWN. SO WHEN I WAS PROVIDING THE TIMELINE OVERVIEW, I TALKED ABOUT OUR INITIAL PLAN, WHICH WAS TO USE TIF FUNDS FOR THE CITY TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS AND DO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF REDEVELOPMENT AND OPERATE THE SPACE. AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE ARE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, AND THIS IS A 20 YEAR ANALYSIS BASED ON OPTION ONE, WHICH IS THE PROPOSAL BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT. THE $740,000 INCENTIVE, PLUS THE INTEREST COST AND THE PROJECTED TAX REVENUE. COUNCIL WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A TEN YEAR BREAKEVEN PAYBACK FOR THE FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, BASED ON THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THAT WE'VE MADE. THESE ARE REASONABLE BASED ON RETAIL SALES, RESTAURANT SALES FOR COMPARABLE RESTAURANTS. AND AN ESTIMATE OF THEIR TAXABLE VALUE.

THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE ON THE TAX ROLLS. IF WE WERE TO DO THE ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED CITY OWNED EVENT SPACE. OUR INVESTMENT WAS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. NO PROJECTED TAX REVENUE BECAUSE IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE OFF THE TAX ROLLS AND THERE WOULD BE SOME REVENUE.

THIS IS BASED OFF OF OUR CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT. LOOKING AT OTHER SIMILAR PUBLICLY OWNED FACILITIES, BOTH IN GARLAND AND IN THE METROPLEX. FOR REVENUE, AND OF COURSE, NOT REALLY A BREAK EVEN PAYBACK. IT WOULD BE OPERATED AS A AS A CITY OWNED PUBLIC EVENT SPACE. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE ANALYSIS LOOKS LIKE. THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL USUALLY LOOKS AT FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEAL IS WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE PAYBACK, WHAT'S THE BREAK EVEN.

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ESSENTIALLY TAKE AWAY FROM THE CUSTOMER BASE OF OTHER RESTAURANTS IN IN DOWNTOWN. AND WHAT, WHAT THIS DATA SHOWS IS THIS IS SALES TAX COLLECTIONS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS FOR, FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND WHAT YOU SEE FISCAL 2023, THAT WAS RIGHT AROUND $100,000. THAT'S AN ANNUAL NUMBER. SALES TAX COLLECTION IN THE NEXT YEAR. AND WHAT HAPPENED IN BETWEEN HERE IS THE SQUARE OPENED UP. THE REDEVELOPED SQUARE OPENED UP. SO YEAR OVER YEAR WE SAW A 61% INCREASE IN SALES TAX COLLECTIONS IN THE SAME DOWNTOWN AREA. WHAT HAPPENED IN FISCAL 2025? THERE WERE NEW BUSINESSES OPENED, PARTICULARLY A NEW RESTAURANT DESTINATION VENUE.

THAT OR RESTAURANT THAT WAS OPENED UP. WE SAW A 52% INCREASE IN OUR SALES TAX REVENUE.

REALLY, IF YOU TAKE NOTHING ELSE AWAY FROM THIS CHART, IT IS THAT WE CANNOT ASSUME A FIXED NUMBER OF VITORS IN DOWNTOWN DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS OR RETAIL OUTLETS HERE. WE ARE SEEING THAT INDEED, THE RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL SHIPS, MEANING THAT WHEN WE ADD A DESTINATION, WHETHER THAT'S A PUBLIC SQUARE OR A BUSINESS DOWNTOWN, A DESTINATION RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN, THAT WE ATTRACT NEW PEOPLE TO DOWNTOWN. THE PIE GETS BIGGER. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS INTENDED TO SHOW. I THINK THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE. THAT'S IT. COUNCIL WERE, OF COURSE, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND OOPS SORRY SORRY COUNCIL. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE PRESENTATION WE SAW LAST NIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE DEVELOPER? NO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND MADAM SECRETARY, CAN YOU CALL OUR SPEAKER? THE DEVELOPER OR THE. YES. OKAY. OH, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE FILLED OUT A SPEAKER CARD. ALL RIGHT. OH, ANDY WILL FIX THAT FOR ME, I'M SURE. OKAY, IF YOU COULD. AND YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO PULL THAT MICROPHONE OVER. AND IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

TYPICALLY WE WILL GIVE YOU. TEN MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS RAY PHILLIPS. LUTHER AND I RESIDE AT THREE, THREE, ONE OAKWOOD TRAIL, FAIRVIEW, TEXAS, 75,069. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, MAYOR SCOTT AND COMMUNITY. I DON'T LIKE, LIKE, NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY, BUT EXCITED TO SHARE MORE ABOUT OUR VISION THIS EVENING AND THANKFUL THAT YOU'VE INVITED ME HERE TO DO THAT. AS I MENTIONED, MY NAME IS RAY, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER, WHICH IS MY HUSBAND, MIKE LUTHER, AND A GENTLEMAN NAMED DON DAY WHO HAS A LONG HISTORY OF RE-ENERGIZING DOWNTOWN AREAS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'RE A SMALL FAMILY BUSINESS. AND WHAT WE'RE HERE TO SHARE TODAY IS A PASSION FOR BRINGING ENTERTAINMENT AND BRINGING PLACEMAKING TO AREAS THAT WE BELIEVE DESERVE IT. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GARLAND OPPORTUNITY, WE REALLY SEE A THRIVING COMMUNITY THAT'S READY TO, I THINK, ENJOY SOMEPLACE LIKE THE OWL ICE HOUSE, WHICH I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU MORE ABOUT. MAYBE. OH, CAROL. BUT IN CONNECTION WITH THE CLICKER, IT'S ON MY SCREEN, SHOWS IT, BUT THAT SCREEN DOESN'T. OH, INTERESTING.

THE VIEW. SORRY, DO I GET MORE TIME NOW BECAUSE I HAD A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY? YEAH, I ALMOST DODGED OUT OF THE ROOM TO FOLLOW CURLY FRY, BUT I'M STILL HERE, SO HANG ON. WE'LL WE'LL SORT OUT OUR TECHNAL DIFFICULTIES HERE FROM THE. I TOLD YOU I'D BREAK IT. WELL, I DIDN'T CHECK THE VIEW BETWEEN YOURS WORKED AND MINE DOESN'T. I'M CONFIDENT THAT DAN CAN FIX IT. THE VIEW BETWEEN. I'M CONFIDENT I CAN'T FIX IT. SO I'M GLAD THERE'S SOMEONE HERE WHO CAN SEE YOUR. YES. OKAY. IS THIS HERE? THAT WAS THE FIRST SLIDE. AND THAT'S THE SECOND SLIDE THAT'S ON THERE. WELL, I CAN CONTINUE WHILE WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR SLIDES TO APPEAR, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE THINK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT DEVELOPERS, OR AT LEAST WHEN I THINK ABOUT DEVELOPERS, YOU THINK ABOUT

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I THOUGHT YOU COULD IGNORE. WELL, YOU ARE, BUT IT'S A BIT DISTRACTING. IT'S GOOD. DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS DUPLICATE? YEAH. THAT'S COOL. IF THIS HAD WORKED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST PRESENTATION I EVER DID WHERE IT WORKED ON THE FIRST TRY. SO AT LEAST WE'RE KEEPING WITH MY RECORD. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE. IT'S FUN, BUT HE'S BEEN MESSI WITH THIS.

I DIDN'T DO IT. NO NO NO, NO, I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS YOU. I DIDN'T DO IT, I SWEAR. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THE SLIDESHOW. NOW WE'RE BACK TO HERE. SO. YOU HAVE FIVE. OH, THAT'S NOT ME. OH, YEAH. NO, THAT'S NOT. I COULD DO THAT PART SINCE I JUST HEARD IT, BUT. I'M NOT THAT ONE. I'M OKAY. ARE YOU ON THE THUMB DRIVE OR IT SHOULD? I SAW IT DOWN THERE. IF YOU GO TO THE LITTLE FOLDER, IT. OH, SO MANY RIGHT THERE. NUMBER TWO. NOPE. THIS ONE. THE SECOND ONE DOWN. YEP. THERE IT IS. ALL RIGHT. BACK IN ACTION. ALL RIGH NOW YOU WANT TO TRY. YEAH I WAS GOING TO SAY BEFORE THEY WALK AWAY. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN, IF YOU LOSE YOUR POINTER IT'S BECAUSE IT'S UP THERE. SO. ALL RIGHT, I'M JUST PLANNING TO USE ARROWS. IF WE HAVE TO GO BEYOND THE ARROWS, I'M. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED YOU AGAIN. AS I WAS SAYING, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY HERE, THAT WE ARE HERE AS THE DEVELOPER. BUT I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT US AND THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, I WISH DON COULD BE HERE. I THINK HE WOULD SPEAK TO HIS DESIRE TO SEE HISTORIC PROPERTIES, TO SEE SQUARES WHICH HE BELIEVES ARE THE HEART OF A COMMUNITY, RE-ENERGIZED IN A REALLY MEANINGFUL WAY. AND HE'S DONE THAT VERY SUCCESSFULLY. MIKE AND I, MY HUSBAND, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET DON WHEN MIKE IS A HE'S A BOUTIQUE RESTAURANT OPERATOR, SO WE'RE JUST CRAZY ENOUGH TO BE IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS. BOTH OF US AND MIKE OPERATED AND WAS AT THE HELM OF RICK'S CHOPHOUSE. AND WHAT WAS THAT? WAS HARVEST AND NOW HARVEST AT THE MASONIC. SO SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE EATEN THERE. AND RICK IS A DEAR FRIEND OF OURS. SO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RESTAURATEURS AT THE CORE, AND WE HAD THE BENEFIT OF GETTING TO MEET DON THROUGH RICK AND REALLY HEARING MORE ABOUT WHAT HIS VISION IS. AND HIS BELIEF IS THAT RESTAURANTS DRIVE ENERGY AND THEY DRIVE VISITS. I THINK IN THE PRESENTATION EARLIER, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IDEA OF LIKE RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL SHIPS. I LIKE TO SAY IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, WHICH IS LIKE COLLABORATION OVER COMPETITION. WE OPERATE THE STICKS ICE HOUSE, AND I CAN TELL YOU WHEN TUPPS CAME TO TOWN, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE ROAD, AN INCREDIBLY LARGE PROJECT MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF, THERE WAS THAT LITTLE PART OF ME THAT WAS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR MY SMALL FAMILY BUSINESS? BUT OUR REVENUE KNOCK ON ALL THE WOOD SINCE TUPPS HAS HAS OPENED, HAS ONLY INCREASED.

AND SO I THINK WHAT WE SEE IS THAT WHEN A PLACE BECOMES A DESTINATION, WE CALL IT PLACE MAKING. WHEN WE CREATE THAT ENERGY, THAT ENERGY REALLY DOES DRIVE, DRIVE ALL THE THINGS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE. AND THAT'S OUR DESIRE. SO BEING A GREAT NEIGHBOR IS IMPORTANT TO US, BUT MORE IMPORTANT IS REALLY JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE CONCEPTS THAT WE BUILD SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE PLAN TO SERVE. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE BOTTOM CORNER, I'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH HISTORIC PHOTOS. THIS OBVIOUSLY IS THE ESSENCE OF AND THE

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AND FOR US, THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT RESTORATION AND CELEBRATION. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OPTIONS THAT WERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE TALK ABOUT IF THE CITY WERE TO DEVELOP A PRIVATE EVENT SPACE, WHICH I'M SURE YOU WOULD DO VERY WELL. I THINK THAT ABILITY TO RESTORE AND REALLY BRING BACK TO LIFE WHAT IS THERE INSIDE THESE FOUR WALLS WOULD BE LIMITED, AND WE JUST HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO AN INSPECTION.

AND YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WON'T SEE IN THE DOCUMENTS IS THAT WHILE YES, THERE IS AN AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND, WHAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO RESTORE THIS PROPERTY AND TO EXECUTE WHAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO EXECUTING IS SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER. THERE IS A ROOF THAT I DESPERATELY WANT TO KEEP PARTS OF. DON IS DON AND I WILL HASH THIS ONE OUT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, TAKE A CRANE AND LIFT PIECES OF THIS ROOF OFF. TO DO THAT SAFELY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL WITH THAT WALL THAT SAYS UNDERTAKER. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THERE IN BRICK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESERVE THAT THROUGH THIS RESTORATION PROCESS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S THAT MANY FOLKS OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMMITTED IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT THE ESSENCE OF THAT BUILDING IS INTACT, AND THAT WE STILL GET TO TELL THAT STORY AT THE ONSET OF THIS OPENING. AND THEN CELEBRATION. CELEBRATION IS CRITICAL IN THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE BUSINESS. HOPEFULLY ALL OF YOU HAVE CELEBRATED SOMETHING THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO YOU IN A RESTAURANT HERE. AND WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE KIND OF THE LEGACY OF GARLAND, HENCE THE NAME.

HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY GOT THAT. THE OWL ICE HOUSE, BUT NOT JUST CELEBRATE THE FIGHTING OWLS, CELEBRATE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE SCHOOLS, THE MASCOTS AND THE DEEP HISTORY THAT EXISTS. THAT RIBBON RIGHT IN THE BOTTOM CORNER IS FROM ONE OF MY DEAREST FRIENDS, TERRY REINHART, WHO I THINK SHE'S CLASS OF 89. SHE LET ME BORROW THAT, AND SHE'S LETTING US BORROW LOTS OF OTHER THINGS. I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE, AND I MENTIONED EARLIER, IS THIS IDEA OF KIND OF A HALLMARK ESQUE SPACE WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY THAT EXISTS IS SO SIGNIFICANT TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE PARK THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY HAS INVESTED IN IS REALLY A PLACE THAT KIND OF HAS THIS LIKE COMMUNAL SPACE. SO I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER THE GARAGE DOORS THAT ROLL UP, THAT PERCH THAT'S UPSTAIRS, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO LOOK OUT OVER THE PARK AND REALLY MAKE THE PARK FEEL LIKE IT'S A PART OF THIS EXPERIENCE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY MUCH COMMITTED TO. I MENTIONED THE RENDERING. I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS VERY GRAND AND THAT IS NOT THE INTENT. THIS I THINK, TAKES UP LIKE TEN PARKING SPOTS, WHEN INDEED THERE ARE I THINK SIX. SO, YOU KNOW, GOD LOVE ARTISTS THAT HELP US TELL STORIES. BUT WHAT YOU'LL FIND, I THINK, IS THAT THE BUILDING WILL FEEL AS SIMILAR IN SOME WAYS AND DIFFERENT IN OTHERS, IN THE SENSE WE WANT TO TAKE KIND OF THE RICH HISTORY THAT EXISTS THERE. I NEVER WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE WALKING PAST SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T EXIST. IT SHOULD ABSOLUTELY FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN THERE AND IT'S LIVED IN. AND THAT WAS OUR INTENT IN THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IN MCKINNEY. AND I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION REALLY WELL. SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPOUNITY TO HAVE EXISTING BRICK AND MORTAR AND BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT AND BRING IT TO LIFE. I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT. I'VE HAD MY EAR TO THE GROUND AND BEEN, YOU KNOW, WATCHING AND HEARING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY SINCE THIS POSTED LAST WEEK. AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A CONCERN.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I ALSO FEEL LIKE IT'S TOO BRIGHT AND SHINY. AND THAT IS NOT OUR INTENT. ALL RIGHT. HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? WE'LL CALL IT FIVE MINUTES WITH ALL THE IN BETWEEN WITH THE TEAM. WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH FIVE. WELL, THEN I'LL SPEND A MINUTE HERE BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE THE SIX THINGS THAT MAKE THE OWL ICE HOUSE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN PERHAPS ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY PUT IN THAT SPACE. AND AGAIN, IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE ARE SOME KIND OF PECULIARITIES THAT EXIST IN THE AGREEMENT AS WELL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF USAGE THAT HAS TO BE REQUIRED. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF STIPULATIONS THAT I THINK MANY DEVELOPERS MAY HAVE KIND OF GONE ONLINE AND SEEN THE DOCUMENTS AND SHIED AWAY FROM, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A TRUE DESIRE TO BRING HISTORY TO LIFE, I THINK INSTEAD OF SHYING AWAY FROM THOSE THINGS, WE INTEND TO FULLY EMBRACE THEM INSTEAD. BUT HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SIX THINGS THAT MAKE THE OWL ICE HOUSE UNIQUE PRESERVING THE PAST AND BUILDING THE FUTURE. I MENTIONED THIS ALREADY, BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH HAS HAPPENED IN THAT HARDWARE STORE, THE WORD ICE HOUSE FOR US IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE ICE HOUSE USED TO BE LIKE THE WATER COOLER. AND I THINK THE HARDWARE STORE IS PROBABLY THAT PLACE AT A TIME AS WELL. AND WE INTEND TO KIND OF FIND PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MANY CONVERSATIONS HAPPENED

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WE OPERATE A COMMUMUNITY GATHERG PLACE THAT DOES SERVE FOOD AND ALCOHOL. BUT I THINK YOU WOULD FIND THAT IT IS FAR MORE A DESTINATION FOR FAMILIES THAN IT IS ANYONE ELSE. AND THAT WOULD BE THE INTENTION HERE AS WELL. I THOUGHT I'D JUST GIVE YOU A PREVIEW BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF FUN. SO THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I'VE ALREADY BEEN COLLECTING. I LIKE TO MANIFEST THINGS. SO WE DEFINITELY, LIKE I MENTIONED, JUST WE BELIEVE IN CAN SEE WHAT CAN BE WITH THE OWL ICE HOUSE. SO THESE ARE SOME PROGRAMS THAT WE FOUND ACTUALLY FOOTBALL PROGRAMS THAT I CAN KIND OF ENVISION BEING, YOU KNOW, USED TO CREATE MAYBE WALLPAPER IN SOME AREA OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE OLD FOOTAGE OF FOOTBALL GAMES PLAYING ON A PROJECTOR. AND THEN THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT ACTUALLY WAS A PHOTOGRAPHER THAT CAME IN AS I WAS JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO CAPTURE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE SO UNIQUE ABOUT THIS SPACE, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY A PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING UP INTO THE CEILING, SO YOU CAN TELL WHY THE CEILING IS NOT IDEAL RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S A PRETTY COOL PHOTO JUST BECAUSE I THINK ARTISTICALLY IT REALLY DEMONSTRATES KIND OF THE RICH FABRIC AND KIND OF WHAT'S THERE. AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO OBVIOUSLY MAKE IT STRUCTURALLY SOUND, BUT THEN BRING THE RICHNESS AND KIND OF THE TEXTURE TO LIFE THAT EXISTS THERE THROUGH THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE DEEPLY COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU GOT TO KIND OF PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS WHEN YOU SAY THAT. BUT AT OUR CURRENT PROPERTY, WE ARE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN GIVE BACK. WE DO THAT THROUGH AN ANNUAL CELEBRATION CALLED THE GOOD OLD DAYS FEST, BUT WE ALSO DO THAT THROUGH SPIRIT NIGHTS, WHERE I THINK WE HAVE THE MOST RICH SPIRIT PROGRAM IN OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE GIVE BACK. WE DO THAT THROUGH DOLLARS THAT GO TO ANIMAL SHELTERS AND ALSO GO TO THE SAMARITAN INN. SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE SERVING, AND HOW CAN WE REALLY MAKE SURE THAT AS A BUSINESS AND AS A BRAND, THAT WE'RE MEETING THOSE NEEDS IN MEANINGFUL WAYS AND THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO DO THAT? YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT IS ACTUALLY A SCHOOL TEACHER AT IMAGINE ACADEMY, AND ALL OF HER STUDENTS CAME OUT TO SEE HER IN THE DUNK TANK, WHICH WAS AT OUR ANNUAL GOOD OLD DAYS FESTIVAL. SO IT'S REALLY A SMALL TOWN FEELING THAT WE INTEND TO CREATE AT THE OWL ICE HOUSE, ALONG WITH BEING ABLE TO BE, YOU KNOW, A PARTNER TO ALL OF YOU IN GROWING TAX REVENUE, OBVIOUSLY. I ALSO SAW A COUPLE OF THINGS LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS DOESN'T WORK? THAT'S ALWAYS A RISK. I THINK THAT'S A RISK WITH ANY BUSINESS.

CERTAINLY IT'S A RISK WITH RESTAURANT BUSINESSES. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. I MENTIONED MY HUSBAND AND I ARE LONG TIME RESTAURATEURS. WE'RE NOT COMING INTO THIS BLIND. WE'RE NOT COMING INTO THIS, YOU KNOW, WITH ROSE COLORED GLASSES, BELIEVING

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OUT OF THE ABOUT 80 TO 100 PEOPLE THAT WE EMPLOY, 36 OF THEM HAVE BEEN WITH US SINCE DAY ONE. SO THAT'S ALMOST FOUR YEARS. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF HOW WE THINK ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF BEING NOT ONLY RESTAURANTEURS BUT EMPLOYERS, IT'S A OF DEEP IMPORTANCE TO US TO CONTINUE TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING CARE OF YOU. SO I HOPE THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS I THINK I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I HAD SEEN OR HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, AT LEAST ONLINE, AND I ADDRESSED, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURE. I WANT TO AGAIN CONFIRM AND COMMIT THAT OUR DESIRE IS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER, BUT IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY. FROM A COMPETITION PERSPECTIVE, WE REALLY DO BELIEVE IN COLLABORATION OVER COMPETITION AND BEING A GREAT NEIGHBOR. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEVER PUT BARBECUE ON THE MENU. OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE SOME OF THE BEST BARBECUE IN NORTH TEXAS RIGHT NEXT DOOR. SO JUST BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS REALLY WORK TOGETHER WELL. AND THEN THE INVESTMENT PIECE, I THINK IT'S JUST, AGAIN, REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT THE COMMITMENT COMMITMENT WE'VE MADE IS X. BUT WHAT WILL REALLY BE REQUIRED IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT IN ORDER TO BRING THIS VISION TO LIFE. SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR YOU THIS EVENING. VERY GOOD. WELL, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR I'M GUESSING I'M GUESSING YOU CALLED HER VERY LATE LAST NIGHT TO SCHEDULE THIS. IT WAS NOT ORIGINALLY ON THE PLAN. AND SO YOU AND THE REST OF THE TEAM ARE. WE'RE AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN ALLEN. I BELIEVE YOU SAID TONIGHT OR FRISCO. SORRY.

FRISCO. OH, ALLEN AND FRISCO WOULD BE VERY UPSET WITH ME FOR CONFUSING THEM. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE RUMORS. YES. NO. YES. I SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK YOU, I HOPE YOU YOU CAN FEEL MY PASSION. WE REALLY THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE PROJECT. AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT THE OWL COULD REPRESENT AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE STORIES THAT CAN BE TOLD, WE GET EXCITED. AND I THINK THAT STARTS WITH COMMUNITY. THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY HAVE TO TELL US WHAT THOSE STORIES ARE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE FRONT END TO REALLY BRING THAT TO LIFE. BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR I WAS GOING TO SAY THE APPLICANT. BUT IT'S REALLY NOT AN IT'S THE DEVELOPER. ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WE WILL GIVE YOU SOME TIME AT THE END IF THERE'S ANY NEED FOR ANY REBUTTAL OR CLARIFICATIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND ANDY, CAN YOU TAKE THE PRESENTATION DOWN FOR THE MOMENT? I KNOW IT TOOK A LOT TO GET IT UP THERE, BUT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. MADAM SECRETARY, CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER, PLEASE EXCUSE ME, MISS LAURIE DODSON. THIS IS THE HONORABLE LAURIE DODSON, MY PREDECESSOR IN THIS CHAIR. GOOD TO SEE YOU. I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER. YOU NEED TO GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, BUT I JUST REMINDED YOU. THANK YOU. LAURIE

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GOOD TO SEE YOU. I HATE TO BE HERE, MRS. LUTHER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. YOUR PRESENTATION HELPS QUITE A BIT, BUT I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS ON THIS AND MINE GOES TOWARDS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. BY DEFINITION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES ARE TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT. SO THE CITY MAKING THE INVESTMENT TO BUILD THE APARTMENTS TO BRING BEDS TO DOWNTOWN VERY APPROPRIATE. THE 25 MILLION PROVES THAT THE CITY IS INVESTED AND WANTING TO BETTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD. APPROPRIATE INCENTIVES TO POSSIBLY BRING SOME MORE HOUSING DOWN HERE. FOOT TRAFFIC WOULD BE VERY APPROPRIATE. PLEASE KNOW MY SPEAKING IS NOT AGAINST ANYONE IT IT COMES TO. THE BASICALLY 2 MILLION DONATION OF THE BUILDIN. AGAIN, THE LUTHER SOUND AMAZING.

THE AGREEMENT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT THIS PORTION HAS BEEN IGNORED AS SUNK COST. SO AFTER THE CITY HAS MADE THESE KIND OF INVESTMENTS ORIGINAL INVESTMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FREE MARKET SHOULD TAKE OVER. THIS SPACE IS THE PRIME ON THE SQUARE. LAST PIECE FOR DOWNTOWN. IT SHOULDN'T REQUIRE THESE INCENTIVES. IT APPEARS THAT WE HAVE A SELF-IMPOSED DEADLINE OF. WE HAD AN RFQ FOR TWO MONTHS. RFQ, YES. AND THEN HAVING NO RESPONSE STAFF MADE A CONNECTION VERY LIKELY. A VERY GOOD CONNECTION. AND APPROACHED AND ENGAGED THIS ONE DEVELOPER. I DON'T KNOW IF THE RFQ HAD THAT. IT WAS ABLE TO HAVE THE BUILDING GIVEN TO HIM. NOT REALLY SURE, BUT YOU'RE SHOWN JUST ONE OPTION. THIS IS ALL WE HAVE ON A SELF-IMPOSED DEADLINE. THERE'S NOTHING MAKING US PUT THIS IN PLAY RIGHT NOW. MATTER OF FACT, I HEARD MISS LUTHER SAY THAT THEY'VE ONLY JUST DONE THE INSPECTION, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A GIANT RUS, BECAUSE THE INSPECTION MAY SHOW THEM THAT THEY CAN'T FIX THIS. WHAT? ALL IS REQUIRED HERE. DID I FINISH THREE MINUTES? I'LL SAY THE OLD HYPERMART SITE. SOME OF Y'ALL WERE ON COUNCIL. WE HAD A CONSULTANT COME. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO AND ENGAGE DEVELOPERS. THEY CAME WITH ONE DEVELOPER AND SAID, HERE'S ALL WE GOT. THIS IS WHAT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE HYPERMART IS STORAGE UNITS. THE DEVELOPER CAME IN AND AGAIN, PLEASE MISS LUTHER, THIS IS NOT ANYTHING AIMED TOWARDS YOU. I LIKE WHAT I'M SEEING, BUT THE DEVELOPER CAME AND GAVE US SORT OF A NICE, FUN LOOKING UNIQUE. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A SPORTS COURT ATTACHED TO IT. GAVE GOOD THINGS GOOD. LOOKED FINE UNTIL WE DOCUMENTED WHAT THEIR PUBLIC TESTIMONY WAS, WHICH WAS THE SPORTS COURT HAD TO REMAIN. AND THEN THEY SAID, OH WAIT, WE CAN'T DO THAT. SO CITY COUNCIL AT THAT TIME WAS PATIENT AND WAITED AND DID THE DEMOLITION. SO TODAY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO EXERCISE THAT PATIENT PATIENCE AND LET THE FREE MARKET WORK. BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, THE AGREEMENT SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF REQUIRING THE RETURN OF A PROPERTY TO THE CITY FOR A PRICE, AMOUNT, WHATEVER THEY PAID, MINUS THE 1.952 MILLION, WHATEVER THE CITY PAID. SO THERE IS A RETURN TO THE CITY. THERE IS A GUARANTEE TO THE CITY IF IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU KIND OF PUT YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THE SAME GOALS TO GET THERE.

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I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. MR. ENGLAND, COULD YOU COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT AS FAR AS BEING IN BREACH OF THE AGREEMENT? WELL, CERTAINLY. GO AHE. SORRY. THAT'S MY BAD. WELL, CERTAINLY NOT TO THIS POINT AT ALL. EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE SO FAR IS VERY CONCEPTUAL. THE PLAN THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT, AS I SEE IT TONIGHT, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE PLAN THAT WAS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. NOW, AS FAR AS THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD, THERE ARE SOME SOME THINGS THE CITY HAS TO DO MOVING FORWARD WITHIN THAT INITIAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. BUT UP TO THIS POINT, EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN, IT SEEMS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONCEPT THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE JONESES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND. I'M CERTAIN THAT YOU AND YOUR OFFICE WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT WE ADHERE TO THAT AGREEMENT.

YES. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. IF YOU COULD CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER UP. SORRY, COUNCILMEMBER HEDRICK. SORRY. THANK YOU. HAD A QUESTION FOR THE SPEAKER. OH, YES. I'M SORRY. CHAD, COME BACK UP, PLEASE. YES, SIR. WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND SPEAKING TONIGHT. QUESTION ABOUT YOU MENTIONED TWO THINGS. ONE IS YOU SAID YOU HAD OTHER CONCEPTS IN THE WORKS DURING THAT 30 YEAR PERIOD. CAN YOU DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE? YEAH, I MEAN WE HAD WE HAD A MUCH SCALED DOWN VERSION, I DON'T KNOW AGAIN WHAT ALL THE COUNCIL SAW, MOST OF THE PLANS THAT YOU SAW WERE THE LARGE SCALE VERSION. SO THE CONTEXT HERE IS THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OPTIONS FROM THE LARGE SCALE VERSION THAT SOME PEOPLE HAD SEEN. THERE WERE SMALLER VERSIONS, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE JUST WASN'T ANY OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT. I MEAN, EVEN WITH THE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON, IT'S A COMMUNICATION THING. WE HAVEN'T. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THIS UNTIL TUESDAY. AND SO THE PERSON THAT HAS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND WENT THROUGH ALL THE STEPS IN THE EFFORT, THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION. WE WERE TOLD NINE MONTHS AGO THAT WE WOULD BE KEPT INFORMED BECAUSE WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROCESS. WHENT STARTED, I HEARD NOTHING. I HAD ONE MEETING WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AND TO THIS DAY, NOTHING. SO THAT'S WHY I SAY IT'S JUST IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT THAT'S CONTEXT. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, BUT I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE CONCEPTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I'M AWARE OF THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT. I'M NOT I DON'T SPEAK, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF OTHER THINGS BEHIND THIS THAT PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE OF. AND LIKE I SAID, I NO WAY HAVE ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS TOWARDS THE DEVELOPER AT ALL. THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T ABOUT THAT. SO ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. ALICE OLDENBURG. OH MY GOD. OKAY, HERE WE GO AGAIN. LISTEN, YOU JUST DID THIS 24 HOURS AGO. I KNOW YOU SHOULD BE FINE. IF YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OLDENBURG. I AM THE OWNER OF TAVERN ON THE SQUARE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THE REASON WHY I OPPOSE THIS PROJECT. OKAY? I FEEL LIKE THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS APPEARANCE APPEARS TO LACK TRANSPARENCY. THIS MATTER HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BY CITY STAFF. AND I'LL REPEAT THAT AGAIN. CITY STAFF, PERHAPS WITH NO INTENTIONS OF HEARING THE PROS AND CONS AND THE CITIZENS OR THE LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER IN THIS DECISION, YOU KNOW, IN DECISIONS LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT BE MADE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE THERE WAS ZERO BIDS ON THE RFQ, AND IT WAS ONLY OUT FOR LIKE TWO AND A HALF MONTHS. THAT MAY BE TRUE. MAYBE NOT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WASN'T OPEN LONGER FOR IT TO HAVE PROSPECTIVE BUYERS AND DEVELOPERS WHO FURNISHED, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY FURNISHED THESE RFQS PERHAPS ZERO, I DON'T KNOW. IT APPEARS THAT NOT VERY MANY QUALIFIED BUYERS HAD THE KNOWLEDGE OF THEFQ, INCLUDING MYSELF. I AM A MEMBER AND I. AND TO MR. WILLIAMS, YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION LAST NIGHT. I TALKED TO A FEW OF THE MEMBERS AND THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THIS SITUATION. OKAY. YOU KNOW, ALSO, IT CONCERNS ME, THE FINANCIAL DECISIONS AND THAT RAISES CONCERNS OF THE RESPONSIBLE USE OF TAXPAYER MONEY. I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT ALONE BECAUSE I WANT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE. ZONING. OKAY. I THOUGHT LARGER BUSINESSES ARE REQUIRED TO SCALE DOWN SIZE AS TO NOT OVERSHADOW NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES. WHY IS THIS, THIS BUILDING BEING EXEMPT FROM THE SAME STANDARDS AS THE OTHER BUSINESS, THAT WE HAVE TO

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CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE, JOHN JOHNSTON. OH, MY GOD, YOU DID GREAT. OKAY, I HAVE A NOTE THAT MR. MARK MCCAIN HAS DONATED HIS TIME FOR JOHN JOHNSTON, AND HE MARKED THAT HE IS AGAINST 519 THAT WAS PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSTON. THAT IS A SLIGHT STRETCH OF THE RULES. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M ONLY GOING TO BE HERE FOR A COUPLE MORE MONTHS, SO I'M WILLING TO LET IT GO. BUT YOU'RE VERY KIND. YOU'RE VERY KIND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE. I'M WILLING TO LET IT GO THIS ONE TIME. IT'S KIND OF A STRETCH OF A RULE THAT WE HAVE. BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU NOT TO COME BACK ANYMORE. THIS. YOU GOT SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU TO MISS MRS. LUTHER AND TO MR. DAY. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL CONCEPT. VERY STUNNING, VERY BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. A VERY I'M VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE THOROUGHNESS THE BEAUTIFULNESS AND MY, MY OPPOSITION IS SUCH THAT IT'S IN THE SCOPE OF THE SIZE AND THE DOMINATION WHICH IT WOULD BRING TO SMALL BUSINESSES. AS ALICE MENTIONED, HONESTLY, THE POTENTIAL SEATING CAPACITY OF 300 SEATS DOWNSTAIRS, PLUS 100 OR MORE UPSTAIR OVER 400 SEATS IS THE COMBINED CAPACITY OF 6 OR 7 OF OUR CURRENT BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS AND BARS ON AND NEAR THE SQUARE. THAT'S LIKE. IT'S NOT LIKE ADDING, WE'RE JUST ADDING ONE NEW BAR AND RESTAURANT. WE'RE ADDING THE EQUIVALENT OF 6 OR 7 OF OUR EXISTING. IT'S A VERY BIG PROJECT AND A VERY BIG IMPACT TO MANY OF US. SO MY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS IS, DO WE HAVE ARE WE AT A CAPACITY FOR. YOU KNOW, ARE WE AT SATURATION WITH RESTAURANTS AND BARS IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN GARLAND? AND IF SO, IS THE ANSWER TO BRING IN ONE THAT IS LITERALLY THE SIZE AND THE FOOTPRINT OF SEVEN OF OUR ONES THAT ARE ALREADY HERE. THAT'S A REALLY BIG CONCEPT TO GRASP, AND I ASK YOU TO THINK WITH YOUR HEARTS, YOUR HEARTS AND YOUR BRAIN WITH THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY THAT'S A VERY POSSIBLE DEATH KNELL TO A NUMBER OF US THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN BUSINESS AND STRUGGLING. SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY I'VE GOTTEN AWAY FROM MYSELF IN ORDER, BUT I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR MY BUSINESS. AND AS LORI HAD MENTIONED, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPEND WITH THE CITY. I WAS EXCITED WHEN THE JONES BUILDING WAS PURCHASED IN 20, LATE IN 2023, WITH THE TIF MONEY AND THE 9 MILLION ADDITIONAL FUNDS AFTER THE PURCHASE PRICE, TO COMMIT TO OWN AND OPERATE AND DEVELOP A CITY OWNED FACILITY SIMILAR TO THE

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INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, NOBODY ASKED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MATTER, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING. I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE, AS LORI AND MR. JONES HAD MENTIONED, POSSIBLY A LOT OF CITIZENS REALLY WEREN'T AWARE OF THIS. I MEAN, I, AS WELL AS ALICE, WAS SURPRISED TO SEE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS SAYING, HEY, LOOK WHAT'S COMING SOON, WITH ALMOST CERTAINTY THAT IT WILL BE APPROVED. AND IT MAY BE IT WAS JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WAS PREMATURE TO TOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FINALIZATION OF SOMETHING THAT HAD NOT BEEN FINALIZED OR EVEN HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION, ESPECIALLY IN THE MATTER OF IT BEING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT EVEN BEING OPEN. AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT IT WAS TAKEN OFF CONSENT, AND I KNOW IT COULD VERY WELL BE APPROVED REGARDLESS. BUT I APPRECIATE AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. PLEASE MISS. THANK YOU. OH, SORRY, COUNCILOR WILLIAMS, I BELIEVE I'M SORRY, JOHN. I BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU.

SORRY. MICKEY. GET IN SOME EXTRA STEPS. YES. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING SIR. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. YOU AS WELL. TWO QUICK QUESTIONS. ONE, IF NOT THIS BUSINESS, WHAT WOULD YOU

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OKAY. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THOSE COULD BE DANDY SUGGESTIONS. BUT THEY ARE RESTRICTED IN THE FRIEND OF MINE WHO OWNED AND OPERATED RESTAURANTS IN AND AROUND GARLAND AND STILL IS A LANDLORD FOR PROPERTIES ON THE SQUARE. I WON'T REVEAL HIS NAME, BUT HE AT ONE TIME HAD SHARED WITH ME THAT HE HAD TALKED TO MR. JONES YEARS AGO ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF HEY, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO PUT A SECOND STORY ON HERE? WHAT WOULD IT COST FOR THIS? AND HEY, MAYBE WHAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A POTENTIAL MAYBE THE CENTER OF THE OF THE OF THE SPACE BEING LIKE AN OPEN GARDEN, SIMILAR TO WHAT INTRINSIC HAS TO THE EAST OF THEM. AND THEN PUT ONE RESTAURANT AND BAR ON ONE SIDE AND ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE, SO THAT THERE'S TWO PLACES TO HAVE MAYBE A COMMON SHARED SEATING OVERFLOW SPACE AND SOME KIND OF COMMUNITY TYPE THING LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. HAVE 120 SEAT RESTAURANT ON ONE SIDE, 120 SEAT ON THE OTHER. THAT'S NOT 450 SEATS. AND THEN WITH A SHARED SPACE, I MEAN, TO ME THAT WOULD BE IN THE MORE OF A SPIRIT OF FAIR COMPETITION, FAIR, YOU KNOW, NEW PLAY. AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, THIS CONCEPT IS AWESOME, BUT IT HAS BURGERS AND TEXAS COUNTRY FOODS AND THIS AND THAT, WHICH MANY OF OUR RESTAURANTS OFFER. THERE'S GOT TO BE SEVEN RESTAURANTS, 6 OR 7 RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE BURGERS. SO I MEAN, IF IT CAME IN LIKE THERE'S NO ITALIAN MENU, THERE'S NO YOU MENTIONED, YOU MENTIONED. SO EXCUSE ME, YOU MENTIONED LAST NIGHT, I RECALL. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS. AND SO I'M ASKING, HOW COULD WHAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING DIRECTLY WHAT AGE YOUR BUSINESS DOWNTOWN AS IT IS POSITIONED NOW AT YOUR OWN, AT YOUR SERVICE CATERING AND EVENT PLANNING. AND IT'S A 20 YEAR BUSINESS OF OPERATED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN A SHARED KITCHEN WITH TAVERN ON THE SQUARE, ALICE OWNS AND OPERATES TAVERN ON THE SQUARE 100% I OWN AND OPERATE SERVICE CATERING. WE HAVE A SHARED KITCHEN AT THAT 601 WEST STATE STREET SEVEN YEARS, BOTH IN THE IN OUR SEVENTH YEAR IN DOWNTOWN. BUT I USED TO HAVE A PLACE RIGHT ACROSS FROM NORTH GARLAND HIGH SCHOOL. THAT WAS THE OLD PIZZA INN. FOR THOSE OF YOU GRAY ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS A PIZZA INN, BEFORE IT BECAME AN ADULT CARE CENTER AND THEN A VACANT SPOT. WE HAD SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS IN THAT BUSINESS BEFORE WE WENT FROM GARLAND TO NORTH DALLAS, OVER AT PRESTON AND FRANKFORT FOR FIVE YEARS, AND THEN BACK TO THE SQUARE. SO IN ALL, I'VE HAD SEVEN, 14 YEARS OF MY 20 YEARS IN BUSINESS IN GARLAND, SEVEN OF WHICH ALMOST HAS BEEN IN THE SQUARE. OKAY, TELL TO CUT TO CUT TO THE CHASE AND SAVE TIME. TELL ME, YOU MENTIONED LAST NIGHT YOUR BUSINESS, THE BUSINESS THAT YOU ARE IN NOW. HOW WOULD YOUR SUGGESTION, YOUR IDEA, BOOST YOUR BUSINESS AS A SMALL BUSINESS? THE BUSINESS THAT YOU RUN NOW DOWNTOWN. NOT WHAT YOU USED TO RUN, BUT RIGHT NOW, HOW WOULD HOW WOULD I BOOST IT? YES, WE LITERALLY WITH JUST, YOU DELIVERED AT A FAIR PRICE ANDCES WITH GROWTH IN CUSTOMER BASE AND REFERRALS. SO A COMBINATION A COMBINATION REST FOOD ON ONE SIDE. WHAT DID YOU SAY ON THE OTHER SIDE, FOOD AND SERVICE, FAIR AND QUALITY FOOD AND SERVICES IN CATERING TO OUR CUSTOMERS. WE CATER TODAY FOR 120 PEOPLE FOR THE GARLAND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, FOR THE FOR THE WOMEN'S BUSINESS INITIATIVE AT THE DALLAS COLLEGE CAMPUS. SO WE VALUE REPEAT CUSTOMERS AND REFERRALS TO NEW CUSTOMERS AND GAINING NEW CUSTOMERS THROUGH AWARENESS AND ADVERTISING AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. NEXT SPEAKER, YOU CAN CALL OUR NEXT HOUR. MADAM SECRETARY, CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER. ERIC STEVENSON.

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BUT IF YOU'RE. SERVING COMFORT FOOD IN THE STYLE OF DAVE AND BUSTERS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT THE BUSINESS MODEL LOOKS LIKE, AT LEAST WHAT WAS PRESENTED ONLINE THE OTHER DAY.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPETING WITH THE TAVERN. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPETING WITH INTRINSIC.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPETING WITH MAIN STREET CAFE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPETING WITH INFINITY. AND IF ALL THESE THINGS ARE IN ONE LOCATION, I HAVE NO NEED TO GO TO THOSE OTHER LOCATIONS. SO MAYBE YOU GET ONE GREAT BUSINESS AND A BEAUTIFUL FACADE, AND AT THE SAME TIME LOSE FIVE LOCATIONS. NOW, I'M CERTAIN THAT YOU'LL FILL THOSE LOCATIONS BACK IN, BUT THE CITY IS NOT IN A POINT WHERE THAT AREA NEEDS TO BE REVITALIZED. THAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE. NOW IS THE TIME FOR PATIENTS. I'LL END WITH A REAL QUICK STORY. MY SON HAD TO GO OUT AND BUY A NEW TRUCK, NOT A NEW TRUCK. IT'S AN OLD TRUCK, BUT THE ONE HE HAD DROPPED A DRIVE SHAFT AND HE WENT OUT AND WITHIN A DAY FOUND HIS FOREVER TRUCK. HE DIDN'T ASK ME A WORD ABOUT IT. HE DIDN'T CONSULT WITH ANYBODY ON IT. HE JUST WENT AND BOUGHT IT. AND OF COURSE, AS ANYBODY THAT'S EVER BOUGHT A USED CAR, YOU END UP WITH SECONDARY, TERTIARY AND UNEXPECTED PROBLEMS THAT COME WITH THAT VEHICLE. AND I SAY THAT IS WHEN THE FIRST THING THAT COMES ALONG LOOKS LIKE THE BEST THING. IT PROBABLY ISN'T. OKAY AS A BUSINESS OWNER AND I MY WIFE IS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS PART OF GARLAND'S STAFF. I DON'T ENVY ANY OF ANYONE ON STAFF. I DON'T ANYONE ENVY ANYONE ON THIS DAIS BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL IN POLITICAL QUICKSAND RIGHT NOW.

BUT AS A BUSINESS OWNER, IF I PUT OUT AN AD ASKING FOR EMPLOYMENT AND IT SITS OUT THERE FOR A MONTH AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY RESPONSES, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE WAY I WROTE THE AD. ISN'T ATTRACTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE. OKAY. YOUR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS DIDN'T DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. AND RATHER THAN PULL BACK AT THAT MOMENT, YOU PAID FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS ON FACEBOOK. I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. SO IF YOU TAKE THAT BACK, YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU SEE, WHAT IS IT IN THIS THAT ISN'T GETTING A QUALIFIED PEOPLE THAT WE WANT? YOU REWRITE IT AND YOU DO IT AGAIN. JUST BE PATIENT WITH THIS. THE FIRST THING ISN'T THE BEST THING. IF IT WAS, I'D STILL BE MARRIED TO MY FIRST WIFE. ANYHOW, Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD

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WE'D LOVE TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE CONSIDERED AND RAISE FUNDING FOR THIS SPACE. HAD WE KNOWN IT WAS AN OPTION FOR PRIVATE INVESTORS. AFTER LISTENING TO THE MEETING LAST NIGHT AND TODAY, ZERO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED. ANOTHER POTENTIAL ISSUE IS THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IS PARKING. WE SIMPLY CANNOT TAKE ON THIS TYPE OF SPACE WITHOUT DEVELOPMENTS FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR POTENTIAL PATRONS. MISS LUTHER, WE LOVE THIS IDEA AND WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU AS NEIGHBORS. THE ECONOMICS OF THIS DEAL, HOWEVER, CREATE MASSIVE INEQUITY FOR OUR CITY, ITS TAXPAYERS, AND EXISTING DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS. OUR CONCERN FOR THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT ABOUT THE INCREASED DINING OPTIONS OR COMPETITION FOR OUR RESTAURANT, BUT FOR THE PERCEIVED AND ACTUALIZED GAIN OF REAL ESTATE OWNERSHIP ON THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYER. IN GARLAND. TRANSFERRED TO A PRIVATELY HELD DEVELOPER. PLEASE BRING THE ICE HOUSE. BUT IF THEY WANT TO BE HERE, WE ARE AT A POINT IN TIME THAT THERE SHOULD BE A COST, EVEN A PREMIUM, TO JOIN. WHAT WE ARE PROUD TO CALL HOME. BUSINESSES HERE ON THE SQUARE HAVE WEATHERED THE STORM, AND SOME OF US HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE REVITALIZATION GRANTS. THESE GRANTS SHOULD STILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE TO THE DEVELOPER, BUT THE REAL ESTATE GIFT IS WHAT'S IN QUESTION. AND THAT'S'S ALL. THANK YOU. AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. VERY GOOD. I CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE MATT ARCHER. OH, YOU'RE OPPOSED BY PROXY I APOLOGIZE. HE IS NOT HERE TO TESTIFY, BUT HE IS AGAINST. UNDERSTOOD. TAMI. NOCK NORWELL. YES. SO DO YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TAMMY HAWK NORVELL, AND I AM THE MAIN STREET CAFE OWNER. MY HUSBAND AND NATHAN AND I, WE HAVE OWNED THE RESTAURANT FOR 13.5 YEARS, AND WE HAVE PAINSTAKINGLY WATCHED MANY, MANY, MANY RESTAURANTS GO IN AND OUT OF DOWNTOWN GARLAND. YES, THE REVITALIZATION OF THE DOWNTOWN. I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE US ALL STABLE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THAT THIS BUSINESS IS ENTIRELY TOO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE OTHER 11, 11 RESTAURANTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ON THE SQUARE AND ON MAIN STREET, ONE BLOCK DOWN. I THINK THAT IT IS A DOMINATION OF WHAT WE HAVE ALL PUT OUR HARD WORK INTO. WE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, DURING COVID, WE NEVER GOT ONE PENNY OF HELP. YES, THERE WAS A REVITALIZATION OF THE GRANT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO MATCH THE GRANT MONEY, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO BE A PART OF THAT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. BEING THAT WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR RETIREMENT MONEY TO KEEP OUR RESTAURANT OPEN RIGHT NOW, WE LITERALLY HAVE ONE PART TIME SERVER BECAUSE WE CANNOT FIND STAFF SO THAT WE CAN STAY OPEN FOR MORE HOURS THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW. IT IS LITERALLY MY HUSBAND AND I WORKING FROM OPEN TO CLOSE EVERY DAY, AND THIS BUSINESS

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THE FIRST BY HOLD DEVELOP WAS ACTUALLY ROSE HILL, NOT HYPERMART, BUT ROSE HILL WAS THE FIRST ONE HYPERMART WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BUY IN. FLIP DIDN'T TURN OUT THAT WAY, BUT THE GOAL WAS TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT DEVELOPMENT IN A WAY THAT COULD NOT BE DONE AS WE NORMALLY DO IT. YOU NEEDED AN OWNER HAT AND NOT A ZONER HAT, AND SO THE IDEA WAS TO REMAIN INVOLVED IN THESE PROPERTIES AND KEEP A HAND IN IT AND DIRECT THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY. AND WHAT I SEE HERE IS US GIVING AWAY THE PROPERTY BASICALLY AFTER, WHAT IS IT, 30 DAYS? YOU KNOW, WE REBATE THEM EVERYTHING AND WE'RE DONE. WE'RE OUT. AND THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE A BAD IDEA TO ME, AS OPPOSED TO KEEPING WITH NO CONTROL, NO PARTNERSHIP, NO PROFIT PARTICIPATION AND NO REVERSION GOING FORWARD. SECONDLY, WE HAVE NEVER HAD A GIVEAWAY POLICY. WE ARE A CITY OF MODEST MEANS AND WE DO NOT GIVE MONEY AWAY WITHOUT A REASONABLE HOPE OF RETURN. AND WE DO NOT, AS A CITY, MAKE OUR TAXPAYERS TAKE THE BURDEN OF USING RISK MONEY. THIS PROPOSAL HERE IS NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. IF YOU GO FORWARD HERE, THE VOTERS WOULD BE FOOLISH TO REWARD YOU WITH A BLANK CHECK OF $75 MILLION IN THE BOND. AND FINALLY, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THAT, IF A GIVEAWAY IS THE POLICY, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH GARLAND DISTRICTS THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE HAVE BEGGED FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS LIKE THIS, AND HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE HAD TO TELL THEM THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WAY? I KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU HAVE HAD SIMILAR DISCUSSIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS, YOU AND I HAVE STOOD AT NEW WORLD IN FRONT OF A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE AND HAD THAT EXACT DISCUSSION IN RESPONSE TO THEIR REQUEST THAT PLEASE BRING THEM A TRADER JOE'S, BRING THEA SPROUTS, BRING THEM ANYTHING. I HAVE SPECIFICALLY SAID TO PEOPLE WE DON'T. THEY SAY ROWLETT HAS A SPROUTS A THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN, WELL, ROWLETT GAVE SPROUTS $3 MILLION AND WE DON'T DO THAT IN GARLAND. AND IF THE POLICY IS CHANGED, IF THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU REALLY HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THAT YOU ARE OKAY WITH GIVING AWAY A $2 MILLION PURCHASE TO A DEVELOPER IN AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY LARGELY DEVELOPED, BUT YOU'RE NOT OKAY WITH DOING THE SAME THING FOR YOUR DISTRICT, FOR YOUR PEOPLE, FOR YOUR NEEDS. YOU CAN'T TELL THEM. ARE YOU GOING TO TELL THEM? THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT FOR DISTRICT TWO, THAT THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INVESTED IN D TWO IS OKAY WHILE THEIR DISTRICTS WITHER? THAT CAN'T BE THE ANSWER. I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO GET THIS BLDING BACK INTO SERVICE.

BELIEVE ME, THIS PLAN SOUNDS VERY GOOD IN MANY WAYS, BUT YOU WERE PRESENTED WITH A BINARY CHOICE BORN OF SEVERAL MONTHS OF EFFORT AND SIGNIFICANT EFFORT, I ADMIT. BUT THIS IS A FALSE DILEMMA. THERE WILL BE OTHER CHOICES. SAY NO TODAY. NEGOTIATE A BETTER DEAL. NEGOTIATE A DIFFERENT DEAL. WRITE A DIFFERENT RFQ SOMETIMES. AND I HAVE SAID THIS TO COUNCIL WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL. YOU HAVE TO SAY A THOUSAND NO'S BEFORE YOU GET TO THE RIGHT. YES. THIS BUILDING, THIS HISTORY, THESE CITIZENS DESERVE A BETTER DEAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY,

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MAYOR LEMAY, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS THAT WERE LISTED UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. SO FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END. OKAY. SO ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL MOVE BACK TO. GIVE THE DEVELOPER A MOMENT TO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY FROM WHAT YOU'VE HEARD. I ADDRESS YOU STILL? YES. PLEASE TALK TO YOU AND WE'LL START AT IT. WE'LL WE'LL GIVE IT THREE MINUTES. OKAY. WELL FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT'S SHOWN UP AND, AND SHARED THEIR POINT OF VIEW. THE PASSION IS PALPABLE IN THE ROOM. AND I LOVE GETTING TO HEAR FROM FELLOW RESTAURATEURS. I'M GOING TO GET SOME NAMES WRONG.

SO APOLOGIES. I WAS TRYING TO SCRIBBLE AND I CANNOT READ MY OWN WRITING, BUT I THINK MRS. DODSON WAS THE FIRST SPEAKER. AND I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS VERY SPECIFICALLY THE CONCEPT OF, YOU KNOW, CAN SOMETHING ELSE HAPPEN IN THAT SPACE, AND IS THERE A DEAL THAT COULD BE WORKED THAT'S DIFFERENT OR BETTER? I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT AS A RESTAURANTEUR WHO'S ALSO BEEN A PART OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE CATERING OR EVENTS BUSINESSES, IT IS INCREDIBLY SLIM MARGINS, AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON BEHIND ME. AND, YOU KNOW, WHILE I HEAR AND APPRECIATE THIS IDEA OF WE'RE GIVING THINGS AWAY. THE REALITY OF THAT BUILDING AND THE RESTORATION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR FOR IT TO BECOME SOMETHING THAT IS OUTLINED IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS SUBSTANTIAL. SO THE ECONOMIC AGREEMENT THAT COMES TO TERM FOR ANYONE THAT IS IN PRIVATE SECTOR WILL HAVE TO BE SOMEWHAT SIGNIFICANT FORHE P AND L TO WORK, AND THAT JUST THE BUSINESS OF IT WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, LIKELY IN YEAR ONE AND YEAR TWO PROBABLY TAKING A LOSS.

BUT WE SEE THIS AS A LONG TERM OPPORTUNITY NOT A SHORT TERM OPPORTUNITY. AND I JUST WANT EVERYBODY HERE TO ALSO KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY MUCH IMPACTFUL TO OUR FAMILY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK, IT'S NOT LIKE MIKE AND I CAN WALK AWAY. THIS IS VERY MUCH A PART OF OUR LIVELIHOOD AND A COMMITMENT WE'RE MAKING BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN WHAT THE POTENTIAL OUTCOME CAN BE. I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT. THE SECOND COMMENT ON BREACH OF AGREEMENT. BUT TO EVERY ONE OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT'S HERE, SPECIFICALLY THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS OWNERS, I JUST WANT TO SAY I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF EATING IN DRINKING IN SOME OF YOUR ESTABLISHMENTS. TAVERN ON THE SQUARE WAS DRINKS. BUT AND YOU ALL DO A PHENOMENAL JOB. AND I THINK AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE PARALLELS THAT I CAN DRAW IN BUSINESSES I'VE ALREADY BEEN A PART OF, LIKE THE MCKINNEY SQUARE. WHEN I LOOK AT THE CELT AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE BECAUSE OF THE ADDITION OF A BUSINESS LIKE RICK'S, I REALLY HAVE WITNESSED ALL SMALL BUSINESSES WORKING TOGETHER TO CREATE UPSIDE, AND I DO FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE CAN CREATE TOGETHER. AND THEN LAST POINT, JUST RELATED TO THE SCALE, I THINK AGAIN, I THINK THE RENDERING IS UNFORTUNATELY KIND OF DELIVERED A POINT OF VIEW THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY INACCURATE. BUT I ALSO JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A AN OPEN SEATING CONCEPT, AND THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THE BUSINESSES HERE, IN THAT IF YOU HAVE A T BALL GAME AND 22 KIDS, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW KIDS ARE THEY'RE HARD ON BUSINESSES, 22 KIDS WANT TO ROLL IN IN THEIR T BOWL OUTFITS. THE REASON THAT THAT SCALE EXISTS IN THE BOTTOM FLOOR IS JUST SO 22 KIDS CAN ROLL IN IN THEIR T BALL OUTFITS, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S EXCEPTIONALLY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THE BUSINESSES THAT THAT OPERATE HERE TODAY, WHICH WHICH I THINK MAKES THE CLIENTELE AND THE OPPORTUNITY QUITE DIFFERENT.

BUT AGAIN, I AM SO GRATEFUL TO HEAR THE PERSPECTIVE. ALL OF THAT IS OF GREAT VALUE TO US AS WELL AS WE ARE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL OF THE ICE HOUSE. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COMMENT FURTHER. NOPE. HANG ON. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MORE. MAYOR PRO TEM, I'M SORRY. MAYOR. PRO TEM DEPUTIES RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I THINK THAT YOU'VE HEARD THE CONCERN. AND THE REAL CONCERN IS A FEAR. A FEAR THAT THIS LARGE CONGLOMERATE IS COMING INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DRAW BUSINESS SO MUCH BUSINESS AWAY. AND I FIND THAT TO BE SOMEWHAT INTERESTING, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE OF THE BUSINESSES SAY YET THAT NO, WE KNOW THAT OUR FOOD IS SUCH THAT WE HAVE A CLIENTELE, THAT IT DON'T MATTER

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WOULD YOU SPEAK TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE MCKINNEY AREA? BECAUSE I'M A CATERER ALSO, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, I'VE BEEN TO MANY CITIES NEW ORLEANS, SAINT LOUIS, NASHVILLE, MEMPHIS.

AND AS I WALK DOWN THEIR MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, I SEE VERY LARGE RESTAURANTS AND I SEE SMALLER RESTAURANTS. AND EACH ONE OF THEM SEEMS TO HAVE ITS OWN NICHE, KIND OF ITS OWN LITTLE GROUP OF PEOPLE. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY THAT THEY ALL SEEM TO FLOURISH, AND THEY ALL SEEM TO SURVIVE. BUT HERE I'M HEARING THAT ALL THE RESTAURANTS ARE REALLY HAVE THIS FEAR. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN MCKINNEY IN THE WAY OF HOW YOU. HAVE THE BUSINESSES THERE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS? HAVE YOU WORKED WITH THEM? I HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS. CAN YOU SHARE WITH US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN OTHER AREAS? YEAH, CERTAINLY. I MEAN, I THINK DOWNWN MCKINNEY AND THE BUSINESSES THAT RESIDE THERE ARE A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE O OF, YOU KNOW, OF COLLABORATION AND THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WORKS ALL THE TIME. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYONE'S, YOU KNOW, ON THE SAME PAGE ALL THE TIME, CERTAINLY, THAT THAT WOULD BE A LUXURY. BUT WHAT I HAVE WITNESSED AND I MENTIONED EARLIER THE VERY DIRECT EXAMPLE OF TUPPS AND OUR BUSINESS, THE STIX ICE HOUSE, WHO ARE NO MORE THAN A MILE, 1.1.1 MILES, I THINK, AWAY FROM EACH OTHER. AND WHEN WE WERE IN THE MIDST OF THAT PARTICULAR CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, MY INITIAL REACTION WAS VERY MUCH FEAR. I MEAN, THEY DO ALMOST IDENTICAL THINGS TO US. AND IN FACT, MANY OF THE PRESS RELEASES I SAW SOUNDED EXACTLY LIKE OURS WHEN WE OPENED. BUT ULTIMATELY, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT THERE'S MORE PEOPLE COMING TO THE AREA IN PURSUIT OF SIMILAR KINDS OF THINGS. AND I THINK WHEN MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO A SINGLE AREA IN PURSUIT OF DINING, IN PURSUIT OF WALKING THE SQUARE, IN PURSUIT OF AN AFTERNOON OUT, MORE EQUALS MORE. AND SO I THINK SOMEONE EARLIER SAID, THE PIE GETS BIGGER AND THAT HAS 1,000% BEEN OUR EXPERIENCE. I YOU KNOW, I ENVISION WITH SOMEONE LIKE THE TAVERN ON THE SQUARE AND SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE OPEN LATE AT NIGHT, THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL SYNERGY THAT EXISTS.

WHEN THERE'S MORE PEOPLE DOWN HERE, THERE'S MORE PEOPLE TO GO KIND OF TO THE NEXT STOP AS WELL. SO WHAT WE SEE IN THE SQUARE IS THAT PEOPLE ARE FREQUENTLY NOT MAKING A SINGLE STOP. THEY'RE MAKING A SECOND OR A THIRD STOP. SO I'M HAVING DRINKS SOMEWHERE, AND THEN I'M GOING TO GRAB AN APPETIZER, AND THEN I'M GOING TO MEET UP OVER HERE. SO YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY WITH OUR FAMILY BUSINESS, THEY'RE MORE OF A SINGLE STOP KIND OF OPPORTUNITY. BUT WITH THE OWL, WE ENVISION THAT BEING KIND OF LARGE GROUP VERSUS SMALLER GROUP FAMILY EXPERIENCES, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT LARGE GROUP KIND OF FLOW AND YOU ARE OPEN SEATING, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT WITH 3 OR 4 PEOPLE, YOU KIND OF DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT. SO YOU KIND OF KNOW THAT'S THE DESTINATION WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE BIG GROUP TO DEAL WITH. SO I DO FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SYNERGISTIC OPPORTUNITIES, AND I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESSES TO COEXIST IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS US TO DRIVE MORE BODIES INTO THIS AREA, WHICH IN TURN INCLUDES MORE REVENUE FOR EVERYONE. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY.

WELL, YES AND NO. I GUESS I WAS LOOKING MORE IN THE AREA OF HAVE YOU SEEN A LOT OF BUSINESSES GOING OUT OF BUSINESS? I KNOW, I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THAT IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. I MEAN, THERE WERE SOME LEASES THAT EXPIRED AND THEY TRIED TO RENEGOTIATE THE LEASE, AND THE LANDLORD DID NOT HAVE FAVORABLE TERMS. SO I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BUSINESS DYNAMIC THAT IS AT PLAY THERE VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING RELATIVE TO REVENUE IN TOTAL. SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE THERE 20 YEARS AGO WHEN RICKS OPENED AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE HAS BEEN, I WOULD SAY, FOUR TIMES THE GROWTH IN SEATS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN EXPONENTIAL ON THE SQUARE ITSELF. AND THANKFULLY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES ARE THRIVING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. ANY ANYTHING I THINK WE'VE COVERED EVERYTHING FOR YOU. SO I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT, COUNCIL, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER. OKAY, SO IN OUR LAST OUR DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT, ADDING IN THAT 1.95 MILLION TO THE 748,000 AND DETERMINING THE ROI FOR THAT, I BELIEVE MATT WATSON SAID IT WAS 22 YEARS, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS OUT AND JUST TALK

[02:00:07]

SO YES, THAT IS A MOTION CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S SAYING IT. THE QUESTION IS, IS YOUR MOTION TO DENY OR IS YOUR MOTION TO POSTPONE? I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT POSTPONED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION, WHICH MEANS IT WOULD BE DENIED AS PRESENTED.

CORRECT? RIGHT. AND TELL ME, COUNCILMEMBER HEDRICK, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I AGREE WITH THAT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO RENEGOTIATE A NEW DEAL, THEN WE NEED TO DENY THIS CURRENT ONE, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK WITH ANOTHER DEAL LATER AT A DIFFERENT TIME. SO I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY.

SO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, CAN I MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO ACTUALLY TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? OKAY. YOU HAVE TO ASK HER, NOT ME. THAT'S RIGHT. THE SECOND. OKAY. DOES THE. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. DOES THE SECOND CONCUR? WELL, POINT OF ORDER. YOU CANNOT MAKE AN AMENDMENT UNTIL A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. YEAH. MY QUESTION IS. GOOD QUESTION.

THERE WE GO. MY QUESTION WHAT NEW INFORMATION WOULD WE HAVE. BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST SIMPLY DENIED WE COME BACK WITH A NEW AGREEMENT. IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, BUT SHOULD VOTE ON WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US AND HAS BEEN SECONDED ALREADY. OKAY. MAY I GO AHEAD? I THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE TONIGHT MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE THE COMMUNITY WAS THE PUBLIC WAS SHARED, WAS RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THEY JUST WANTED MORE TIME TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. OKAY, SO MR. ANGLER, HE'S NOT THE I'M NOT THE PARLIAMENTARIAN, BUT I WILL I WILL SUGGEST THAT BOTH ORDINANCE AND COUNCIL POLICY ULTIMATELY

[02:05:02]

SIR, THIS IS NOT A ZONING CASE. IT'S SIMPLY THE PROPOSAL WHERE THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE ON THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF US FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THIS SALE PURCHASE, WE CAN COME BACK AT A LATER TIME WITH ANOTHER AGREEMENT, ANOTHER SALE PURCHASE, IF IT'S MODIFIED OR CHANGED IN ONE WAY. BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION ON THE SECOND ON WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US. YES. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH A SECOND TO DENY. MADAM SECRETARY, PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US, PLEASE. AND AGAIN, COUNCIL, THE MOTION IS TO DENY.

AND DISPLAY THE VOTE, PLEASE. THE MOTION TO DENY PREVAILS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS BEARD, MOORE AND OTT IN OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES THAT ITEM. AND THAT CONCLUDES FINALLY, THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE A RECESS AT THIS POINT.

WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR A WHILE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS, AND LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY COME BACK AT 920, PLEASE. WE ARE GOOD EVENING. WE ARE COMING BACK FROM RECESS FOR THE MARCH 4TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE WE ARE AT ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. MADAM SECRETARY, IF YOU GO OVER THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES FOR ME, PLEASE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IS GIVEN TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY RATHER THAN TO QUESTION THE CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF. THE CHAIR MAY CALL A SPEAKER OUT OF ORDER IF THE SPEAKER PRESENTS QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION THAT WILL UNDULY DELAY THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS AT THE MEETING, SPEAKER SHALL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON A FIRST COME, FIRST TO SPEAK BASIS, AS DETERMINED BY THE ORDER IN WHICH THE CITY SECRETARY RECEIVES THE SPEAKER'S INFORMATION. APPLICANTS ARE ALLOWED TEN MINUTES FOR PRESENTATIONS, AND ALL OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WHEN THE PODIUM BUZZER SOUNDS, THE SPEAKER MUST END THEIR COMMENTS. VERY GOOD. AND JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR NINE A OR NINE B? NO SIR, WE DO NOT JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK. FIRST UP

[a. Garland Development Code (GDC) Amendment (25-01) Hold a public hearing to consider amendments to Attachment 1 -- Land Use Matrix as it relates to the allowable districts for Laundry, Self-Service (Laundromat) use and Restaurant use. The GDC amendment request is proposing to require a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for the Laundry, Self-Service (Laundromat) use in the CR, Community Retail district and to allow the Restaurant use by right in the NS, Neighborhood Services District. ]

[02:10:07]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS A GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT ON A COUPLE USES FOR THE LAND USE CHART, THAT LAND USE MATRIX THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE. THERE ARE TWO USES INVOLVED WITH THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT. ONE IS THE LAUNDROMAT USE AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE RESTAURANT USE. THE LAUNDROMAT USE IS THE ONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE, AND THEN THE COMMITTEE HAD REPORTED IT OUT TO CITY COUNCIL, KIND OF EXPRESSING THE FEASIBILITY OF REQUIRING AN SUP IN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT. RIGHT NOW, THAT USE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE CR DISTRICT. DURING THAT TIME, WE HAD DISCUSSED MANY THINGS. WE HAD LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING. WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A STRONG FINDING. IT REALLY DEPENDS MORE ON THE WHAT WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO SEE IN THE CR ZONING DISTRICT OR THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE IN THE CR ZONING DISTRICT. THE CURRENT LAUNDROMATS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF GARLAND, MOST OF THEM ARE LOCATED IN A COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT OR IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS A BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL.

WE DID LOOK AT AT THAT TIME. WE ALSO DID TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THOSE ARE AND WHICH AREAS THOSE CURRENT EXISTING LAUNDROMATS ARE SERVING. AND IT DID LOOK LIKE MOST OF THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE BEING SERVED WITH THE EXISTING LAUNDROMATS. WHEN WE TOOK IT TO PLAN COMMISSION, THEY HAD A FEW CONCERNS. ONE OF IT WAS THAT THE EXISTING THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY OPERATING WILL BECOME NON-CONFORMING WITH THIS WITH THIS UPDATE. SO WE HAD PROPOSED THAT IN OUR ORDINANCE, THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN CRAFT THE ORDINANCE IN A WAY THAT WILL HAVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE SO THAT ANY NEW ONES THAT ARE COMING TO THE CITY OR THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED WILL REQUIRE AN SUP, BUT EXISTING ONES WILL NOT BECOME NONCONFORMING. THEY WILL REMAIN LEGAL. SO THEY COULD DO EXPANSION AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT ANY OTHER LEGAL USE COULD DO. SO WE CAN HAVE THAT DATE IN THE ORDINANCE TO CRAFT IT. AS SUCH, THE PLAN COMMISSION DID SERVICE, ALTHOUGH WE HAD SHOWN THAT THE EXISTING ONES ARE SERVING THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOT A NEED TO REQUIRE AN SUP FOR THIS. AND AGAIN, THERE'S NOT A STRONG FINDING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IT'S REALLY WHAT THE CITY OR THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE IN DIFFERENT AREAS. AND AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE WE'RE PROPOSING TO REQUIRE AN SUP, DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE BANNING THEM. BANNING THAT USE. IT SIMPLY SAYS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF LAUNDROMATS AND ANY NEW ONES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TAKE A FURTHER LOOK ONTO IT, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT IS KIND OF A GENERAL OVERVIEW ON THE PROPOSED CHANGE FOR THE LAUNDROMAT. USE THE ONE ON THE RESTAURANT THAT FEELS LIKE THAT INCONSISTENCY. AND I'M GOING TO GO OVER WHAT THAT IS, IS TRULY A CARRYOVER. WHEN THE PREVIOUS ZONING ORDINANCE WAS UPDATED TO IN 2015 TO BECOME THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN FOR OUR RESTAURANT USE, IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN COMMUNITY OFFICE.

AND THEN IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN ALL OTHER NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. AND THAT INCLUDES COMMUNITY RETAIL, LIGHT COMMERCIAL, HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL. HOWEVER, IN NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE, THIS USE REQUIRES AN SUP. AND THIS CAME TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THERE WAS A POTENTIAL ZONING CASE. AND YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT ZONING CASE HERE IN THE COMING, COMING MEETINGS WHERE A SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMUNITY OFFICE, IT HAS RESTAURANTS OPERATING, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT. THEY DO WANT TO MOVE UP IN THEIR ZONING DISTRICT JUST SO THEY CAN ALLOW SOME PERSONAL PERSONAL SERVICE, WHICH CURRENTLY REQUIRES AN SUP IN THE CO DISTRICT. BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY WANTED TO GO TO THE NS DISTRICT IS THOSE RESTAURANTS ARE GOING TO THEN BECOME NON-CONFORMING, OR HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO GET AN SUP FOR THAT? AND IT DIDN'T REALLY SEEM LOGICAL TO STAFF TO HAVE THE RESTAURANT USE THE, NOT THE

[02:15:07]

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDES ON THE LAUNDROMAT? OKAY. AND YOU HAD MENTIONED I FORGOT I MEANT TO WRITE IT DOWN, I DIDN'T. I'M DRAWING A BLANK HERE. CAN YOU GO OVER YOUR NOTES ON LAUNDROMAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY. YES. SO I HAD TALKED ABOUT KIND OF LOOKING INTO OTHER CITIES WHERE THE CURRENT LAUNDROMATS IN GARLAND ARE LOCATED, WHICH ARE MOSTLY IN COMMUNITY RETAIL AND IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. WE DID TALK ABOUT WITH THIS POTENTIAL, WITH THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT THE EXISTING ONES WILL BECOME NONCONFORMING. BUT WE FOUND A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT. AND THE FACT THAT PLAN COMMISSION THOUGHT THIS IS A NEEDED SERVICE AND SHOULD BE REMAIN AS PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND CR. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. OKAY.

YEAH. SO AND YEAH I APOLOGIZE I KIND OF FELT LIKE IT WENT THROUGH PRETTY QUICK THERE. SO YEAH ON THE OKAY. SO I'M CURIOUS WHY WHY THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO WRITE IT IN TO MAKE THEM NOT NONCONFORMING. WHEN THE WHEN THE IF WE CHANGE THE LAND USE ON THAT. WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE FOR THAT? I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE LAND USE MATRIX ON IT, WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO DO THAT FOR THE FOR THE NONCONFORMING ONES? THAT WOULD BE UP TO COUNCIL. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PLAN COMMISSION HAD CONCERNS ABOUT. SO WE JUST TRIED TO ADDRESS THEIR QUESTION AND SEE IF THERE IS A WAY TO CRAFT THE ORDINANCE AS SUCH. BUT AS CITY COUNCIL, WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION, YOU CAN WRITE. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT? THEY JUST THOUGHT THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THOSE THOSE EXISTING SERVICES NONCONFORMING.

AND THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE TOO BUSINESS FRIENDLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NO NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. YES, SIR. I CAN IF YOU ALLOW ME, I CAN ADDRESS FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE THE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT YOU'RE JUST DESCRIBING IS, LEGALLY SPEAKING, THE REASON THE COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER DOING THIS. AND IT'S NOT A HUGE DEAL, BUT IT IS A MINOR. IT'S A MINOR DEAL THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IS WHEN WE FORCE A BUSINESS INTO NONCONFORMING, LEGAL, NONCONFORMING STATUS, IT REQUIRES SPECIAL NOTICE, WHICH IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT TO TRACK SOME OF THESE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS A LONG TIME. AND SO AND GIVING NOTICE TO EACH ONONE OF THESE PROPERTIES, IT BECOMES A BIGGER ADMINISTRATIVE HEADACHE. CERTAINLY DOABLE THOUGH. AND SO STAFF IS CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO THAT. BUT FROM LEGALLY, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, ANOTHER REASON THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AS YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO KEEP THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING AS LEGAL CONFORMING STATUS, EVEN THOUGH ANY OTHER FUTURE LAUNDROMAT COMING IN WOULD WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN SUP. SO IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THAT. AND THAT IS BECAUSE IT IN THE EVENT THAT THESE LAUNDROMATS MIGHT BE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO, THEY ARE LESS LIKELY TO INVEST MONEY INTO THOSE PROPERTIES IF THEY IF THEY FALL INTO NONCONFORMING STATUS.

AND SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I SEE NONE AT THIS POINT. WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I BELIEVE THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM. OR IS THIS IT? WE. YES, IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. YES. AND AFTER THAT, YOU'RE. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE LAUNDROMATS FOR SUP USE AND CR

[02:20:01]

I'M GETTING SOME DIRECTION. I'M SORRY. ARE THESE TWO ITEMS OR ARE THESE ON THE SAME AGENDA ITEM? THEY'RE ON THE SAME. THEY'RE ON THE SAME AGENDA. YES. YOU'RE DOING GREAT. THANK YOU.

DO I NEED TO REPEAT MYSELF? AND I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION? YES, MA'AM. IS THAT MOTION TO CRAFT THE ORDINANCECE AS CH? THAT THE EXISTING ONES ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO REMAIN AS LEGAL, OR IS IT WITHOUT THAT THAT. THAT LITTLE I, I WOULD, I THINK TO MAKE FUTURE LAUNDROMATS REQUIRE AN SEP WOULD OKAY COOL. THANK YOU. OKAY. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER ART, COULD WE SPLIT THE TWO ITEMS FOR SEPARATE VOTES? IT'S AN AMENDMENT. IT'D BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. OH, YOU NEED A MOTION. OKAY, YOU HAVE TO. ASK THEM IF YOU WOULD. ALL RIGHT.

Y'ALL ARE REALLY PUSHING MY BUTTONS TONIGHT, BUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THEM BY THE LAND. LET'S SEE THE LAUNDRY. SELF-SERVICE AND THE. COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT RESTAURANT. YES, YES, YES. OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU WERE IN HERE FIRST, AND YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH THE LAUNDROMAT. LAUNDROMAT? YES, SIR. SORRY. LET ME TURN YOUR MIC BACK ON. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUIRED OR REQUIRED SUP FOR LAUNDROMATS AND CR ZONING WITH THE. I GUESS THAT'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING TO ALLOW CURRENT BUSINESSES OPERATING AS LAUNDROMATS. I THINK WHAT YOU HAD SAID WAS THE FUTURE ONES WILL REQUIRE AN SUP.

YEP. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY TO REPEAT THAT. DOES THE SECOND CONCUR? COUNCIL YOU THERE? WE HAVE A MOTION BEFORE US. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE. I DIDN'T CATCH THE SECOND MAYOR. LET ME AS COUNCIL MEMBER. DUTTON. AND COUNCIL. AND DISPLAY THE VOTE. THAT THE MOTION PREVAILS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS HEDRICK AND OTT IN OPPOSITION.

THAT LEAVES US WITH THE SECOND PART. MAYOR, I MAKE A SORRY. GO AHEAD, MAYOR. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESTAURANT USE BY RIGHT INS ZONING. I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. TO. YES. SORRY. GO AHEAD AND DISPLAY THE VOTE. AND THAT THAT SECTION OF THAT THAT ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO ITEM NINE B GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,

[b. Garland Development Code (GDC) Amendment (25-02) Hold a public hearing to consider amendments to the plat approval and relevant procedures. The GDC amendment request is proposing to allow the plat approval procedure to become administrative. ]

[02:25:02]

OH NEVER MIND. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. AND WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD IT BE. THE LEVEL OF APPROVAL. SAY AGAIN FOR ME WHO WHAT WILL BE THE FINAL APPROVAL ABSENT A AN APPEAL TO THE COUNCIL. WHO WHO WOULD APPROVE IT? STAFF WILL APPROVE IT. AND WITH STAFF. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE WAY WE'RE PROPOSING IT IN THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO APPROVE THE PLANNING AND THE PLALANNING DIRECTOR. THE ONLY REASON THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS BECAUSE IT'S A DEFINED TERM IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO IT SAYS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OR HIS OR HER DESIGNEE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. VERY GOOD.

COUNCILMEMBER. ART. WELL, HANG ON. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. AFTER SERVING 13 YEARS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PASSING COUNTLESS NUMBERS OF PLATS AND IT'S PROCEDURAL, THIS WILL BE A RELIEF FOR THEM. SO THANK YOU. YEAH, PROBABLY PEEL A GOOD FIVE MINUTES OUT OF EVERY ONE OF THEIR AGENDAS, YOU KNOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AT THIS POINT, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION THAT IS HOPEFULLY VERY SIMPLE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, AS PRESENTED, THE OF PLAN B. WHAT? STOP RIGHT THERE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS TO APPROVE ITEM NINE B AS PRESENTED. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE. AND DISPLAY THE VOTE. AND THAT ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. NEXT ITEM IS

[ CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS Terms are usually staggered whereby at least half of the membership has previous experience. Members are appointed based on qualifications.]

[ CITIZEN COMMENTS Members of the audience wishing to address issues not on the meeting agenda may have three minutes to speak. However, according to the Texas Open Meetings Act, Council is prohibited from discussing any item not on the posted agenda.]

MY NAME IS ANDREA HOUSTON. I RESIDE AT 4429 BRIGHTWOOD DRIVE, ZIP CODE 75043. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M SPEAKINGNG TYOU ALL TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE DUCK CREEK ESTATES HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I AM THE BOARD PRESIDENT. MY TOPIC IS EROSION AND EROSION CONTROL. MY ISSUE IS TO ESTABLISH A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT AND EROSION CONTROL WITHIN THE DUCK CREEK ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD, THE HOA IS TASKED WITH UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF TWO GREEN LOTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE TWO GREEN LOTS HAVE RUN OFF FROM THE CREEK THAT ALSO RUNS THROUGH THE AUDUBON PARK WALKING TRAIL. IN 2013, GARLAND CITY COUNCIL

[02:30:05]

THANK YOU MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. THANK YOU MA'AM.

TERRY REESE. MR. REESE, IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE TONIGHT. MY NAME IS TERRY REESE.

I RESIDE AT 1613 GREEN TREE LANE IN GARLAND IN DISTRICT SIX, AND I WANTED TO COME TONIGHT TO SPEAK NOT ON ANY OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT NOT SO HUGE OF AN ITEM. BUT TO ME IT'S VERY PERSONAL. I JUST WANTED TO FIRST OF ALL SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF GARLAND IN YOUR EFFICIENCY IN THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT. SUNDAY EVENING, I PUT MY REQUEST IN AND BY MONDAY I THINK IT WAS AT NOON. I HAD MY TOUGH SHED ALREADY FINALLY APPROVED AS. AND HE JUST WALKED AROUND AND. OKAY, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. SO VERY EFFICIENT THERE. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONTINUING THE HOMEOWNER REBATE INCENTIVE PROGRAM. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO IMPROVE THE ABILITY TO IMPROVE OUR PROPERTIES AND KIND OF ACT AS MORE OF AN ATTRACTION TO CITIZENS AND PEOPLE COMING INTO THE AREA. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT 48 TO 72 HOURS, I WILL HAVE MY FENCE STARTED UNDER THAT PROGRAM. SO I APPRECIATE THE REBATE ON THAT. SO TO SHOW YOU MY GRATITUDE, I THOUGHT EARLIER THAT I WOULD BRING YOU GUYS A COUPLE OF MAYBE CHRISTMAS PRESENTS IN MARCH, BUT KNOWING THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY INTERACT WITH ME, I DON'T WANT 11 SETS OF EYEBALLS TO ROLL BACK IN YOUR HEADS. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DUKE IT OUT FOR THE PRESENTS THAT I BROUGHT. AND THOSE ARE.

THESE TWO ITEMS RIGHT HERE. NO EYES ROLLING. WE'LL SEE. A COUPLE OF SMILES, BUT NO EYES ROLLING INTO THE BACK OF YOUR HEADS. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO YOU, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT IT'S BEEN MULTIPLE, AND I'M GOING TO BE THE NEXT MULTIPLE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS AT ALL. WHEN I TALKED TO MISS DUTTON THREE OR SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, I THE FIRST TIME THIS HAPPENED AND I'VE GOT RECEIPTS GOING BACK WELL OVER A YEAR AND

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BUT I HAVE A DISTINCT FEELING, AND THESE FEELINGS THAT I HAVE ARE GENERALLY WIND UP TO BE CORRECT, THAT IT'S THE CITY THAT'S THE PROBLEM. YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE, BUT THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING THERE TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE. AND I WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE I'VE WRITTEN EMAILS TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, TO THE PUBLISHER OF THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, GRANT, MOISES AND KATIE MURRAY.

THEY DON'T CARE. AND I THINK THE REASON THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT NOT STOPPING THIS, WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE ILLEGAL DUMPING, IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A STRONG ENOUGH ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM. SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT MAYBE YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE AND THE ENFORCEMENT BEHIND IT, AND ANY FUTURE ORDINANCES THAT THIS COUNCIL PASSES NEEDS ENFORCEMENT FACILITIES BEHIND IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY ONES LEFT HERE. BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? SEEING NONE AT

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.