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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MARCH 17TH, 2025 WORK SESSION R THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL.

THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. AND I BELIEVE I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKER CARDS. ARE THEY ALL FOR ITEM SIX? I'M PRETTY MUCH GUESSING THEY ARE. THEY THEY DID NOT SPECIFY WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER, BUT I WOULD MAKE AN EDUCATED GUESS THAT THEY ARE. ALL RIGHT. FAIR ENOUGH. SO NORMALLY WE DO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO HOLD PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM UNTIL WE GET TO ITEM SIX. AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE SPEAKERS, WE'VE GOT THE DEVELOPERR HERE. AND THEN PART F THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, UNFORTUNATELY, IS STUCK BEHIND AN ACCIDENT ON THEIR WAY HERE. SO THEY SHOULD BE COMING IN SHORTLY. SO WE WILL CIRCLCLE BAK

[ CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA Council may ask for discussion or further information on any item posted in the consent agenda of the next Regular Meeting. Council may also ask that an item on the consent agenda be pulled and considered for a vote separate from the consent agenda at the next Regular Meeting. All discussions or deliberations are limited to posted agenda items and may not include new or unposted subject matter.]

TO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THAT FOR ITEM SIX. NEXT UP IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO FAR I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON HAS PULLED ITEM THREE FOR TOMORROW NIGHT. THAT'S STILL VALID. ALL RIGHT. AND ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER BASS IS PULLING ITEM FOUR. IS THAT ACCURATE? CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. AND JUST TO NOTE COUNCIL ON ITEM FOUR, THIS IS AN ITEM WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING. THE COUNCIL HAD.

THIS IS ABOUT A TREE MITIGATION. THE COUNCIL HAD AGREED I DON'T REMEMBER THE VOTE COUNT, BUT WE HAD AGREED ON A 25% REDUCTION. IT IS POSTED AT 50%. IT IS POSTED INCORRECTLY. MR. ENGLAND, IF YOU HAD ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER, BASS INTENDS TO PULL THIS ITEM AND HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON IT. BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT IT IS CURRENTLY POSTED AT 50%. I'M GOOD WITH THAT DESCRIPTION. AND MAYOR PRO TEM, YES, I NOTICED YOU SAID THAT COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON HAD PULLED IT. I THOUGHT THAT I HAD PULLED NUMBER THREE. I SAW THE ONLY EMAIL I SAW WAS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. OKAY. I RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM SOMEONE THAT SAID THAT I'D PULLED IT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. YEAH, I, I DID NOT I DID NOT SEE IT. SO THREE IS AND IT'S PULLED EITHER WAY. SO I JUST I WANTED TO BRING THE POINT UP ON ITEM FOUR. JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WAS A MISSED POSTING. SO BUT THAT CAN BE AT THE TIME OF THE MOTION THAT CAN BE CORRECTED OR NOT DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GO. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT ANYONE INTENDS TO HAVE PULLED FOR TOMORROW NIGHT SO WE CAN DO ANY ADDITIONAL PREPARATION? NO, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S TIME TO DO THAT BEFOREHAND. MOVING ON TO

[1. FY 2024-25 Annual Operating Budget Amendment No. 1 Council is requested to consider approving changes to the FY 2024-25 Annual Operating Budget to appropriate available funds for: projects approved in last year's budget but not yet completed, the rollover of open purchase orders from the 2023-24 fiscal year, and expenditures not anticipated in the 2024-25 Adopted Operating Budget. Unless otherwise directed by Council, this item will be scheduled for formal consideration at the April 1, 2025 Regular Meeting. ]

WRITTEN BRIEFINGS. ITEM ONE FY 2425 ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ITEM TWO.

[2. Grant Disbursement Agreement - Garland Housing Finance Corporation Council is requested to consider accepting a $540,000 grant from the Garland Housing Finance Corporation (GHFC) to continue the Garland Partnership Program with the City of Garland. Unless otherwise directed by Council, this item will be scheduled for formal consideration at the April 1, 2025 Regular Meeting.]

EXCUSE ME. GRANT DISBURSEMENT AGREEMENT. GARLAND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION IN THE AGE

[3. GPS: Garland's Pathway to Success Council is requested to consider approval of GPS: Garland’s Pathway to Success, the City Manager’s work plan for aligning City Council direction with the work of Team Garland. Council was briefed on this item at the November 18, 2024 Work Session. Unless otherwise directed by Council, this item will be scheduled for formal consideration at the March 18, 2025 Regular Meeting.]

OF TRUMP, PARTICULARLY THIS. AND ITEM THREE GPS GARLAND'S PATHWAY TO SUCCESS. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON

[4. Introduction of a New Director Council will be introduced to Joe Ellis, the new Director of Emergency Management, by Mistie Gardner, Managing Director.]

TO VERBAL BRIEFINGS. ITEM FOUR INTRODUCTION OF A NEW DIRECTOR. MISTY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I AM SO HAPPY TO INTRODUCE TO YOU OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT, JOE ELLIS. JOE HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE FEBRUARY 24TH. HE HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND MULTIPLE CERTIFICATIONS, INCLUDING CERTIFIED EMERGENCY MANAGER, CONTINUITY OF BUSINESS CONTINUITY PRACTITIONER AND THEN ALSO A MASTER EXERCISE PRACTITIONER. SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM. HE MOST RECENTLY CAME FROM THE STATE HE WORKED FOR TXDOT BEFORE WE BROUGHT HIM BACK TO FROM THE DARK SIDE. BUT JUST KIDDING. BUT HE HAS MULTIPLE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE REGION AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. HE ALSO WORKED AT PARKLAND HOSPITAL AND THEN HE

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WAS AT THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR A LITTLE WHILE. SO A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. SO PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME JOE ELLIS TO TEAM GARLAND. JOE, WELCOME. FIRST THING, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TECH STOCK CONSTRUCTION, SO PLEASE DON'T ASK ME ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. IT'S A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. SO. BUT YEAH, WELL, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. MISSY IS KIND OF WAS KIND OF A MENTOR AS I STARTED OFF MY CAREER AND 2007. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN THAT LONG, BUT I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK UP HERE FROM AUSTIN AND SAW THIS POSITION WAS OPEN AND HAPPY TO BE HERE. VERY GOOD. WELL, WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. AND I GUESS LAST WEEK YOU SENT OUT, YOU SENT US OUR YOUR FIRST EMERGENCY WEATHER BULLETIN WHEN WE HAD THE HIGH WINDS COMING IN. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW IF WE LOOK FORWARD TO. YOU. YEAH. LET ME REPHRASE THAT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU ON THE TEAM. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

[5. Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) Update Council will be updated on DART's services, activities, programs and projects within Garland.]

THAT WILL MOVE US ON TO ITEM FIVE. DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT UPDATE. AND I THINK WE HAVE A FULL CONTINGENT HERE THIS EVENING. AND WE MAY NEED TO PULL UP A WE'LL GET YOU AN EXTRA CHAIR. NO TAKEN CARE OF. GOOD EVENING. WELL HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR LEMAY. CITY MANAGER REX AND I NEED TO SAY HELLOO MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE, WHO SITS NEXT TO ME AT THE RTC EVERY MONTH. AS I'M NORMALLY GETTING. HAVING A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE REST OF THE ORGANIZATION. SO I'M GARY SLAGLE, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR DART. AND WITH ME IS NADINE LEE, OUR CEO. MARK ENOCH, WHO IS A LONG TERM BOA MEMBER. AND ONE OF YOUR APPOINTEES, ALSO FROM ROWLETT. AND THEN MARK, MARK ABRAHAM, WHO'S YOUR YOUR DART BOARD MEMBER THAT IS FULLY APPOINTED BY YOU FOLKS. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, AND WE'VE BEEN IN THE NEWS A LITTLE BIT. SO YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME OF THIS, BUT BUT BASICALLY A ROUGHLY A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO, SOME OF THE CITIES WANTED TO GET A BETTER SENSE. IT GOES BACK LONGER THAN THAT. BUT BUT REALLY GETTING A BETTER SENSE FOR HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT IN EACH OF THE CITIES BY DART AND INVESTED IN THEIR CITIES. AND THEN HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY IN SALES TAX? AND AT THE LAST COUPLE OF LEGISLATURES BEFORE THIS ONE, THERE WAS A BILL TO REQUIRE US TO GIVE THAT INFORMATION. AND FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS THAT THOSE BILLS DIDN'T PASS. BUT WE STILL WENT AHEAD AND DID IT BECAUSE WE FELT THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND WHAT WE DID IS WE CONTRACTED WITH ERNST AND YOUNG TO DEVELOP THE ANSWER TO THAT WHICH YOU FOLKS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN TO SOME DEGREE. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T WE DID NOT DEFINE THE STUDY. WE BASICALLY LET YOU THE CITIES DO THAT. AND THEN WE SAID WE'D LIVE WITH THE RESULTS AND WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS. WE'RE HERE LIVING WITH. BUT SO AFTER THAT OCCURRED, WE HAVE HAD A FEW CITIES THAT TOOK SOME ACTION TO DO A BILL, FIRST OF ALL, TO DO A RESOLUTION TO ASK US TO DO A FEW THINGS AND CHANGE THE WAY WE DID BUSINESS WITH THE CITIES AND, AND, AND SHORTLY AND I GUESS THERE WERE SIX CITIES THAT SIGNED A RESOLUTION LIKE THAT, SEVEN THAT DID NOT. AND GARLAND WAS ONE OF THOSE SEVEN AND WHICH WE APPRECIATE AND APPRECIATED AT THE TIME. BUT WE HAVE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME SINCE OCTOBER GOING TO EACH OF THE CITIES. THE THREE OF US, MARK, ENOCH, MYSELF AND NADINE, WENT TO EVERY CITY AT LEAST TEE TIMES AND I'M ON THE FOURTH ROUND. WE'RE ON OUR FOURTH ROUND WITH GARLAND RIGHT NOW, TALKING TO THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM ABOUT DART AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING, AND THE HELP WE NEED FROM FROM EACH OF THE CITIES. AND THAT'S WORKED OUT VERY WELL. WE HAVE NOW SEVERAL RESOLUTIONS SUPPORTING THE FULL FUNDING OF DART, AND THAT HELPS US DOWN IN THE LEGISLATURE, WE HOPE, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE TOTALED UP, WE HAVE YOU NOW HAVE MORE. THERE ARE MORE CITIES IN IN TERMS OF POPULATION AND IN TERMS OF FUNDING TO DART A CONTRIBUTION TO DART ON SALES

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TAX THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN, WHICH IS SUPPORTING THE THEN THE VOTER APPROVED FUNDING FOR DART. AND IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. WE HAVE A SALES TAX AND SOME OF THE CITIES ARE TRYING TO REMOVE SOME OF THAT FROM US, A QUARTER OF IT. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, BUT WE'RE YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE MADE THOSE TRIPS, WE'VE TALKED TO ALL OF THE CITIES ABOUT WHAT YOU WANTED, AND EVERYBODY TOLD US WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE IN TERMS OF SERVICE, WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE IN TERMS OF FUNDING, IF THEY WERE IMPROVING, IF THEY WERE SUPPORTING, TRYING TO GET MORE FUNDING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE THE BOARD HAS SAID SEVERAL WORKSHOPS AND WORK SESSIONS AND COMMITTEES OF THE WHOLE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO TALK ABOUT THIS, TO TRY TO COME IN INTO AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH THE CITIES AND THE RTC, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL AND MICHAEL MORSE HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN THAT REGARD. AND AS YOU KNOW, MARK, MICHAEL MORRIS ALSO HAS BEEN ASKED BY THE CITIES TO DO A TRANSIT 2.0 STUDY, WHICH SHOULD BE FINISHED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS COMING TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME. SO WHAT I WHAT I WILL DO IS JUST TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE LEARNED THROUGH OUR PROCESS. FIRST, LET ME JUST LOOK AT MY NOTES BECAUSE MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS ANYTHING. BUT FIRST, OUR OUR BOARD FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT WE ARE A TRANSIT AUTHORITY.

WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE TRANSIT AND WE SHOULD SPEND OUR MONEY ON TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO TRANSIT. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE CITIES AS WE WENT AROUND AND TALK TO THEM. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE MOST, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME VERY POPULAR THINGS. MICRO TRANSIT IS VERY POPULAR RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS OUR GO LINK SERVICE. AND A LOT OF CITIES WANT MORE OF THAT. WE ALSO HAVE CONNECTOR SERVICES, WHICH A LOT OF CITIES WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK THERE WAS A REAL STRONG DESIRE TO DO TO BE A PARTNER IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JUST PLANNING FOR THE CITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND NADINE WILL TALK A LOT ABOUT ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER THING WE HEARD FROM THE CITIES WAS THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT GOVERNANCE OF DART, AND THERE WAS A PERCEPTION THAT BECAUSE THE CITY OF DALLAS HAD EIGHT BOARD MEMBERS AND THE SUBURBS HAD SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS, DALLAS COULD DETERMINE WHAT SERVICES COULD BE TAKEN AWAY FROM SOMEONE, WHAT SERVICES COULD BE ADDED, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE WAY THE BOARD HAS WORKED. WE'VE WORKED COLLABORATIVELY FOR YEARS. I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD SINCE I DEPARTED MY MAYOR ROLE IN RICHARDSON IN 2011. SO I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD A YEAR OR TWO.

AND, AND WE'VE WE'VE WORKED, I THINK, VERY WELL TOGETHER. THAT WAS ONE OF THE PERCEPTIONS ON GOVERNANCE. THE OTHER ONE WAS SOME OF THE VERY SMALL CITIES THAT DIDN'T HAVE A MEMBER ON THE DART BOARD WANTED. ONE FELT THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE A PRESENCE ON THE BOARD AND HAVE A VOICE. AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING WE WERE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH AND HOW WE HANDLED IT. AND THEN AND THE LIST OF THE PEOPLE THAT THE CITY WANTED, ONE OF THOSE OR THE OTHER ARE ON.

HERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN NOW A, A BILL INTRODUCED IN THE HOUSE, WHICH BASICALLY GIVES EVERYBODY A SEAT AND TAKES AWAY SEVERAL SEATS FROM DALLAS. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE VERY ACCEPTABLE TO DALLAS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THAT UP AT OUR BOARD TO SEE WHAT TO TRY TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT MIGHT BE FAIR, WHAT THE. THE SENATOR DID, WHO WHO PUT THAT BOARD OR THAT THAT LEGISLATION IN PLACE OR AT LEAST IS TRYING TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, HAD ASKED DART TO COME TO A CONCLUSION ON HOW WE SOLVE THE GOVERNMENT'S PROBLEM PROBLEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T EVER GET TO A 100% AGREEMENT FROM ALL THE DART BOARD MEMBERS, FROM ALL THE CITY MANAGERS AND ALL THE MAYORS AND THEIR CITIES. SO HE TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF TO DO WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS BEST. AND SO THAT'S THE BILL WE HAVE, AND WE'LL HAVE TO JUST WORK THROUGH THAT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES. BUT I THINK THE REALLY IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THAT BECAUSE WE WERE AT A GRIDLOCK AND TO SOME DEGREE, AND THE RTC HAS ASKED US TO TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH THE CITIES, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE REGION WANT US, WANT US TO WORK TOGETHER TO

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RESOLVE THE PROBLEM? AND SO THERE'S BEEN A WORKING GROUP PUT TOGETHER WITH THE CITY OF PLANO MAYOR, THE CITY OF IRVING, MAYOR, THE CITY OF. CARROLLTON MAYOR AND THEN RICHARDSON MAYOR AND GLENN HEIGHTS MAYOR. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE CITIES WHO ARE REPRESENTED IN THIS COMMITTEE. TWO OF THEM HAVE SIGNED RESOLUTIONS TO SUPPORT THE FUNDING APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. THE OTHER THREE HAVE SIGNED THE RESOLUTION TO REMOVE FUNDING FROM DART. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OURS. WE HAD A SORT OF AN INTRODUCTORY MEETITIG FRIDAY. IT'S BEING DRIVEN BY COUNTY JUDGE FROM DALLAS AND ALSO FROM MICHAEL MORRIS, OUR RTC LEAD AND EXECUTIVE AT DART OR AT RTC. SO WE'VE HAD THE FIRST INTRODUCTORY MEETING THERE. NADINE, MYSELF AND MARK ENOCH AND HAVE BEEN AND THEN A FELLOW FROM DALLAS. IS ALSO A PART OF THAT COMMITTEE. SO WE HAVE WE'VE STARTED THAT DISCUSSION. WE HAVE OUR FIRST TWO MEETINGS ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK, SO WE'LL REALLY GET INTO IT. BUT IN THE MEANWHILE, IN THE MEANTIME, AND I ASKED MARK AT THE END OF THIS IF HE WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON A RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE CRAFTED. I INTRODUCED THAT TO THE RTC ON THURSDAY, WHICH IS A WAY TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO O GO, WHI IS HELP THOSE CITIES WHO HAVE BEEN DONOR CITIES AND YET CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE DONE AND HAVE DONE VERY WELL OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS, AND IT CONTINUES TO GET BETTER AS WE PULL OUT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ISSUE WE HAD WITH PEOPLE NOT RIDING BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF THE COVID SHUTDOWN. AND THEN WE'RE BUILDING ALL THAT BACK IN.

NADINE MAY WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME WE HAVE WE THINK SOME VERY INNOVATIVE IDEAS ON OUR OWN RESOLUTION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING ON FRIDAY TO TALK THROUGH THAT WITH OUR BOARD. WE'RE TRYING TO PASS IT SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD HAS TAKEN A POSITION ON. DART AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY, BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY COMPETING WITH A COUPLE OF BILLS THAT ARE ALREADY DOWN IN AUSTIN. SO WE NEEDED TO PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT WE COULD STAND BEHIND. SO THAT'S WHAT ā– WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TURN THIS OVER TO NADINE, BECAUSE SHE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH GARLAND AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR GARLAND SPECIFICALLY. AND THEN MARK WILL CLOSE IT OUT FOR US. MARK. AND THEN YOU CAN ASK US WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS YOU LIKE. OF COURSE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M REALLY DELIGHTED TO BE HERE. AND JUST BEFORE I GET INTO THE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE CITY OF GARLAND ABOUT, I WANTED TO JUST CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE NUMBERS OF THE BILLS THAT CHAIR SLAGLE REFERRED TO. THE GOVERNANCE BILL THAT WAS INTRODUCED BY SENATOR PARKER IS SB 2118. AND SO THAT IS THE GOVERNANCE BILL THAT WOULD ACTUALLY CHANGE THE REPRESENTATION OF THE DART BOARD TO ONE REPRESENTATIVE PER CITY.

AND FOR DALLAS, THEY WOULD ALLOW THAT ONE REPRESENTATIVE TO HAVE THREE VOTES. BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE SIZE OF DALLAS AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT DALLAS REPRESENTS. AND SO CURRENTLY, THE SEATS ON THE BOARD ARE APPORTIONED BY POPULATION OF THE CITIES. AND SO GARLAND ACTUALLY HAS MORE THAN ONE SEAT, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE WITH OUR ESTEEMED BOARD MEMBERS TO MY LEFT. AND SO GARLAND WOULD GO FROM HAVING MORE THAN ONE BOARD MEMBER TO HAVING ONE SINGLE BOARD MEMBER.

THE CITY OF DALLAS WOULD GO FROM HAVING 7.8 BOARD MEMBERS TO HAVING ONE BOARD MEMBER WITH THREE VOTES. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS FROM SENATOR PARKER. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE TWO FUNDING BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE THERE. THE LANGUAGE IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

IT'S HOUSE BILL 3187 AND SENATE BILL 1557, I THINK IS THE CORRECT NUMBER. IF IT'S NOT, I'LL MAKE SURE I CHANGE THAT LATER. BUT BUT THOSE BILLS SEEK TO REMOVE OR TO SET ASIDE 25% OF DART SALES TAX REVENUES IN A GENERAL MOBILITY FUND THAT WOULD BE USED FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS BEYOND WHAT CHAPTER 452, WHICH IS OUR ENABLING STATUTE BEYOND WHAT 452 ALLOWS TODAY. ONE OF THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS FOR ROADWAYS AND HIGHWAYS, AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO SEEK TO REMOVE 25% OF OUR CURRENT FUNDING. SO WE WOULD GO FROM A $0.01 SALES TAX

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TO A THREE QUARTER CENT SALES TAX. THOSE THINGS IN COMBINATION HAVE OBVIOUSLY A VERY DEVASTATING IMPACT ON DART. AND SO I WANTED TO JUST CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THOSE TWO THINGS.

IF YOU'RE TRACKING THEM, THOSE TWO. HOUSE BILL 3187, SENATE BILL 1557. THOSE ARE COMPANION BILLS. THE ONE ON THE SENATE SIDE HAS BEEN HAS BEEN REFERRED TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

AND WE DO NOT AT THIS TIME HAVE A HEARING SCHEDULED. BUT BUT CERTAINLY, IF WE DO, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AS FAR AS OUR EFFORTS IN GARLAND ARE CONCERNED, I JUST WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FOCUS OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER, MOSTLY SURROUNDING TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. CERTAINLY, IF YOU GO BACK AS FAR AS 1998, DART AND THE CITY OF GARLAND HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY ON TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS. AT THAT TIME, THE CITY WAS DEVELOPING ITS FIRST TOD PLAN FOR THE DOWNTOWN GARLAND STATION, AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER WAS STARTING THE AREA PLANNING EFFORT FOR THE FOREST JUPITER STATION, WHICH WAS GOING ON IN 1999. STARTING IN 2013, DART WAS WORKING WITH THE CITY TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE CENTERVILLE AREA, OF WHICH THE SOUTH GARLAND TRANSIT CENTER PROPERTY IS A PART OF THAT AREA. AND THEN IN 2021, DART AND THE CITY OF GARLAND EXECUTED A MEMORANDUM, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING TO PARTNER AND UPDATE THE ORIGINAL TOD STATION AREA PLANS, AS WELL AS DEVELOP TOD PLANS FOR ITS FIRST OR I'M SORRY, FOR ITS THREE TRANSIT CENTERS AT DOWNTOWN, SOUTH GARLAND, AND LAKE RAY HUBBARD. SINCE THEN, THE TOD PLAN FOR LAKE RAYUBBARD TRANSIT CENTER WAS COMPLETED IN 2022. ANTHEM DEVELOPMENT BEGAN CONSTRUCTION ON PHASE ONE OF THE TOD, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY, WITH RETAIL READY ON THE GROUND FLOOR IN 2023. SORRY THEY BEGAN CONSTRUCTION IN 2023 ON PRIVATELY, THE PRIVATELY OWNED 14 ACRES ADJACENT TO THE DART PROPERTY. AND SO WE THEN EXECUTED NYLA WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND IN NOVEMBER OF 2024 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DART OWNED 13 ACRES. THE RFP WAS ISSUED IN JANUARY THIS YEAR AND THE RESPONSES ARE DUE THIS WEEK. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND I KNOW THAT OUR DART STAFF WILL BE PARTICIPATING WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND STAFF, LOOKING AT THOSE RFPS AND EVALUATING THE PROPOSALS THAT WE RECEIVE. AND WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EAGERLY ANTICIPATING WHAT WE SEE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS FAR AS SOUTH GARLAND TRANSIT CENTER IS CONCERNED. IN 2022, WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND, AS WELL AS NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COG, TO DO A FUNDING SWAP WHERE THE RTC WAS GOING TO PROGRAM $15 MILLION FOR THE SILVER LINE, WHICH WOULD THEN ALLOW DART TO PAY $15 MILLION IN LOCAL FUNDS TO GARLAND FOR THE TOD AT SOUTH GARLAND TRANSIT CENTER. SO IN JANUARY OF 2023, WE EXECUTED A AN ILA FOR THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUNDS, WCH I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A SECOND, THAT PROGRAMED ALMOST $21 MILLION FOR THIS TOD PROJECT. AND THEN LAST AUGUST, THE BOARD APPROVED DENIAL FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE DART TRANT CENTER AND THE CITY'S PURCHASE OF THE DART PROPERTY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY'S PLANS. AND WE'RE CURRENTLY DISCUSSING SOME CONCEPTS FOR NEW VISION, BOTH AT THE SOUTH GARLAND TRANSIT CENTER SITE AND THE FUTURE TOD AT DOWNTOWN GARLAND TRANSIT CENTER AS WELL. SO THERE'S A TON OF WORK HAPPENING. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK GARLAND IS REALLY CAPITALIZING ON THE PROMISE OF TRANSIT IN YOUR CITY, AND WE LOVE TO SEE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. WE LOVE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND. YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT. AND WE HOPE THAT OUR PRESENCE REALLY HELPS THE CITY REALLY THRIVE AND BECOME THE CITY THAT YOU ALL WANT TO BE. SO, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIG FOCUSES HAS BEEN TOD. AND SO THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE HAVE AN ILA WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND FOR WE EXTENDED THE DEADLINES FOR ALL THE CITIES TO DRAW THAT MONEY DOWN. NOW IN GARLAND, IT'S NOT AS BIG OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE HAVE ALLOCATED IT TOWARDS THE TRANSIT CENTER REDEVELOPMENT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD ALREADY PROGRAMED THAT THAT FUNDING AND WE'RE HOLDING THAT FUNDING UNTIL WE'RE READY TO START DRAWING IT DOWN. AND SO YOUR YOUR FUNDING THROUGH THE PTI, ILA IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE SAME DEADLINES AS EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE IT AS PART OF THE PROGRAM. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A CITY MANAGER WORKING GROUP. IT'S A SMALLER GROUP THAT INCLUDES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CITIES REPRESENTED, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKING GROUP IS WE'RE FIRST TACKLING THE CONCEPT OF DART'S PARTICIPATION IN TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONES, OR TERS. AS YOU MIGHT BETTER KNOW THEM. SO PARTICIPATING IN THESE TERS TERS AREAS WOULD ALLOW US TO TAKE THE SALES TAX INCREMENT

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THAT DART HAS AND APPLY THEM TOWARDS SOME OF THE INCENTIVES THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT, MIGHT OFFER TO YOUR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPERS WHO ARE COMING IN TO DO WORK AT ANY OF OUR TRANSIT CENTERS. AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON WHAT THE PARAMETERS WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR DART TO HAVE AN AUTOMATIC YES TO THAT PARTICIPATION. AND SO OUR PLAN IS TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET ONE, ONE APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD SO THAT I WOULD THEN HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD AND PARTICIPATE. YOU KNOW, IF CITY MANAGER REX CAME TO ME AND SAID, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M MAKING THIS UP, WE'D LIKE 25% OF YOUR SALES TAX INCREMENT TO USE TO LEVERAGE SOME INCENTIVES FROM, FROM THE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. AND I WOULD SAY, OKAY, WELL, I'M APPROVED UP TO 50%. SO THAT WOULD BE AN EASY YES. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE THAT ILA. AND IT WOULD JUST BE A TRANSACTION THAT WE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY DO. NOW IF MR. REX CAME TO ME AND SAID, I WANT 75% OF YOUR SALES TAX INCREMENT, I'D SAY, YEAH, I'M ONLY APPROVED UP TO 50%. LET ME GO ASK THE BOARD AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A HOPEFULLY SHORT CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS YOU'RE DOING. AND THE BOARD WOULD SAY AN EASY YES. RIGHT. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CONCEPT BEHIND IT. OUR GOAL WE'VE ALREADY HAD TWO MEETINGS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK BIWEEKLY ON THIS EFFORT IN HOPES THAT WE CAN BRING A CONCEPT OF WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS LOOK LIKE TO THE BOARD FOR THE MAY BOARD CYCLE. AND HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN SAY YES TO, AND WE WILL BE BRIEFING THE FULL CITY, CITY MANAGER GROUP, ALL 13 CITY MANAGERS AS WE GO ALONG SO THAT WE CAN KEEP EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED. SAME WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS. WE WANT TO KEEP THEM INFORMED AS WELL. SO THAT IS ACTUALLY THE BALANCE OF MY INFORMATION. AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU. TURN IT OVER TO MARK ENOCH. I'M MARK ENOCH AND I'M ONE OF YOUR I'M A THIRD OF YOUR BOARD MEMBERS OVER HERE. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING A LONG TIME TO HELP YOU, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT OPPORTUNITY IN POLITICS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT NOW. COMPROMISE IS NECESSARY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE FIND OURSELVES RIGHT NOW IN THAT POSITION ON THE DART BOARD BECAUSE WE ARE FACED WITH LEGISLATION WHICH, IF PASSED, WOULD DRASTICALLY AFFECT GARLAND AND WOULD DRASTICALLY AFFECT GLEN HEIGHTS AND ROWLETT, THE OTHER TWO CITIES THAT I REPRESENT, BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE $222 MILLION RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF OUR ABILITY TO SPEND, TO NOT ONLY MAKE BETTER, BUT INCREASE THE SERVICES. IT WOULD FOREGO ANY OPPORTUNITY OF FURTHER RAIL LINES IN THE FUTURE AS WE GROW TO 10 MILLION PEOPLE, 12,000,015 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE METROPLEX, WE JUST WOULDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD ANOTHER RAIL LINE.

WE'RE NOT DONE BUILDING. SO MY GOAL HAS BEEN TO DO WHAT I CAN TO SAVE THAT ONE PENNY THAT I KNOW IS VERY VALUABLE. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S VALUABLE TO THE CITIES AS WELL, BUT I KNOW THROUGH MY WORK FOR YOU ALL THAT THAT PENNY WAS THE REASON WE GOT THE $700 MILLION FULL FUNDING GRANT AGREEMENT TO COMPLETE THE ORANGE LINE OUT TO THE AIRPORT. I REMEMBER IN MEETINGS I WAS IN WITH THE BANKING COMMITTEE IN THE SENATE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WERE OVER MATCHING AND WE WERE SECURE WITH THAT ONE PENNY BECAUSE IT'S INFLATION PROTECTED, AND WE GOT MONEY THAT OTHER CITIES WERE VYING FOR AT THE TIME. SO IT'S NOT JUST AN AMOUNT OF MONEY WE CAN SPEND HERE ON TRANSIT. IT'S AN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT TELLS THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM AND THEY CAN PAY FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO LET ME TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND MISTER MOORE AND MAYOR PRO TEM KNOWS THIS, AND YOUR MAYOR KNOWS THIS. I'M GOING TO REPEAT SOMETHING I'VE TOLD TO THEM, AND I. I DEAL WITH JUDGES ALL THE TIME, MAYOR. SO I UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WHEN I GET A NO. BUT I'LL KNOCK AT THE DOOR ONE MORE TIME. I DON'T THINK THAT GARLAND SHOULD STAND ON THE SIDELINE IN THIS POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT. I AND YOU MAY CHOOSE TO DO SO. THAT'S YOUR CHOICE. I OF COURSE, I DON'T REPRESENT YOU OTHERWISE THAN ON THE DART BOARD, BUT THERE ARE FORCES IN AUSTIN THAT ARE VERY CERTAIN THAT THEY WANT TO CUT 25% OF THE FUNDING, AND A COMPROMISE TO THEM WOULD BE 10 OR 15%. I'VE HEARD SOME PEOPLE SAY, OH, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. IT'LL BE 10 OR 15%. THAT WILL HAVE DEVASTATING IMPACT ON THE CITY OF GARLAND AND ITS BUS SERVICE. RIGHT NOW, UNDERHE EY REPORT, THERE'S ABOUT $62 MILLION THAT IS SPENT IN GARLAND AND ABOUT $40 MILLION CONTRIBUTED BY GARLAND. GARLAND IS A DONEE CITY. BY THAT I MEAN UNDER THE EY REPORT, WHICH I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH, MORE IS SPENT IN GARLAND THAN IS TAKEN IN FROM GARLAND. AND OF COURSE, THE DONOR CITIES LOOK AT THE DONOR CITIES AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE WANT OU 25% BACK.

ROWLETT EVEN PASSED ONE OF THOSE 25% RESOLUTIONS. AND THANK TO MAYOR PRO TEM WINGET, THEY JUST REVERSED THAT LAST MONTH AND TOOK THAT RESOLUTION BACK. AND NOW WE'RE SUPPORTING THE FULL PENNY FOR DART. SO I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL NOT ONLY TO PASS A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE ONE PENNY. I SEE MAYOR PRO TEM ED MOORE, WITH WHOM I I'VE HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS OVER THERE,

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SMILING A LITTLE BIT. HE KNOWS I'VE KNOCKED ON THIS DOOR BEFORE. I THINK. NOT ONLY THAT, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE IN AUSTIN TESTIFYING ON THE BILLS. IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A RESOLUTION. IT'S ANOTHER THING TO HAVE A MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM DOWN IN AUSTIN TALKING ABOUT WHAT GARLAND DOES WITH THE WITH THE TRANSIT SERVICES IT HAS. SO THAT'S MY FIRST ASK. MY SECOND IS A MATTER OF NOTIFICATION. AND THIS GOES UNDER THE COMPROMISE IN POLITICS. THE MAYOR KNOWS AND MR. MOORE KNOWS THAT I DID NOT SUPPORT AND VOTED AGAINST PLANO GETTING 28 MILLION, $29 MILLION BACK OF ITS 25%. IT WANTED BACK FROM ITS SALES TAX. PLANO IS AN OUTLIER. PLANO IS ABOUT $65 MILLION, A DELTA BETWEEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT CONTRIBUTES AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HE SAID IS SPENT IN THE CITY. NO OTHER CITY IS THAT MUCH OF AN OUTLIER. IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT PLANO BELIEVES IT IS PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM FOR WHICH IT'S NOT GETTING VALUE BACK. SO I VOTED AGAINST WRITING A CHECK FOR IT, THINKING THAT WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD GET A BETTER SERVICE, FULL SERVICE. GO LINK, DO THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO, TAKE CARE OF THEM TRANSIT WISE. AND THAT DID NOT WORK. SO WE TALKED ABOUT A RESOLUTION. THIS WOULD BE YOUR RESOLUTION. THIS IS A SECOND KIND OF RESOLUTION. YOUR RESOLUTION HOPEFULLY WOULD BE TO SUPPORT THE FULL PENNY, FULL PENNY AND HAVE SOMEONE IN AUSTIN HELPING US ON THAT. THE RESOLUTION I'M TALKING ABOUT IS ONE THAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO CONSIDER THIS FRIDAY AND NEXT TUESDAY, AND IT IS A RESOLUTION BY WHICH 5% OF THE SALES TAX WOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO PAY BACK TO THE DONOR CITIES ON A PRO RATA BASIS, ON THEIR OVERAGE, THE DELTA BETWEEN WHAT THEY CONTRIBUTED AND WHAT THEY THINK THEY GOT UNDER THE E REPORT. THE E REPORT HAS SOME PROBLEMS. IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SILVER LINE THAT PLANO AND THE NORTHERN CIES ARE GOING TO HAVE. IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ADDITIONAL SERVICE. WE INTEND TO MODIFY THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE FACING DOWN VERY AGGRESSIVE LEGISLATION. AND IT'S A IT'S A CONCERN TO ME THAT DART IS FOREVER GOING TO BE CHANGED. AND I WANT TO COMPROMISE IF I CAN.

AND I THINK THIS RESOLUTION, I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY PLANO. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.

BUT I CAN SAY WHEN WE GO TO AUSTIN, WHEN I GO TO AUSTIN AND I'M DEFENDING AGAINST IT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN OFFER ON THE TABLE. THAT'S A REASONABLE OFFER. UNDER THAT OFFER, PLANO WOULD GET ABOUT $28 MILLION NEXT YEAR. SO VERY CLOSE TO WHAT IT'S GETTING AND GET IT FOR TWO YEARS UNDER THE EY REPORT. IT'S A YOU CAN SAY GENEROUS BY DART, OR YOU CAN SAY IT'S A FAIR THING BACK TO PLANO. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON ON FRIDAY. WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE DALLAS FOLKS VOTE FOR IT. WE HOPE WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE SUBURB FOLKS VOTE FOR IT, BECAUSE WE WANT THAT TO BE A MESSAGE TO AUSTIN THAT WE'VE COME AND WE'RE WILLING TO COMPROMISE AND TAKE INTO THE FINANCIAL EQUITY OF THOSE CITIES THAT ARE DONATING, AS LONG AS WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE REGIONAL ASPECTS AND THE SOCIAL EQUITY OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IN OTHER PARTS OF OUR 13 CITIES. SO THAT'S MY MESSAGE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR AGAIN. AND WE SURE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SOME HELP IN AUSTIN WITH THIS. I THINK IT'S TO GARLAND'S WOULD BE VERY MUCH TO YOUR BENEFIT IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL THERE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE THING, YOUR BOARD MEMBER, MARK ABRAHAM, YOUR OTHER BOARD MEMBER IS THE CHAIR OF OUR BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, WHICH HE HAS A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY TO START WORKING THROUGH THE IMPACT OF THIS PROPOSAL TO DART AND PUTTING A LONG TERM PLAN TOGETHER, OR A PLAN, AT LEAST LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE BIT INTO THE FUTURE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND WHAT IF THERE'S A SHORTFALL, HOW MUCH IS IT? AND THEN IF THERE'S A SHORTFALL, WHERE WOULD WE FIND THAT MONEY? I'D RATHER NOT START CUTTING SERVICES. THE 25% IS VERY IT'S VERY DETRIMENTAL TO ALL THE CITIES. AT 5% IT'S SOMEWHAT. AND I WANT TO FIND A WAY NOT TO HAVE IT. ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU READ IN THE PAPER THAT WE'RE DROPPING THESE SERVICES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO COVER THAT MONEY. SO YEAH. GOOD GUY. GLAD YOU PUT HIM ON THE BOARD. I'M GLAD HE'S OUR BUDGET AND FINANCE CHAIR AND HE'S GOING TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR US. I'M JUST SAYING, YEAH. NO PRESSURE. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD ADD ON TO THAT. YOU KNOW THE BIG THE BIG PUSH NOW IS TO FIND OUT WHAT THA NUMBER IS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE. SO WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT NUMBER THROUGH BUDGET AND FINANCE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR GRANTS. GO TO THE RTC ANY OTHER PLACE WE CAN TO KIND OF ESSENTIALLY CUT THAT SHORTFALL SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FUND IT OUT OF SERVICE CUTS OR CUTS TO STAFF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ANOTHER THING TO POINT OUT IS RIGHT NOW DART IS GOING THROUGH AN INITIATIVE, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT WHERE THE FAT IS AND MAKE EFFICIENCY CHANGES

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AS WELL. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO TRY TO GET TO A POINT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST SHOWING A BETTER EFFICIENCY OVERALL. SO AND THEN I AT THIS POINT, I THINK THE TIMING IS RIGHT TO KIND OF STEP OUT, STEP OFF THE SIDELINES AND, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION. I'M I THINK GARLAND HAD A VERY GOOD POSITION, KIND OF SITTING ON THE SIDELINES AND WATCHING HOW THINGS PLAYED OUT. BUT I THINK IT'S KIND OF TIME TO CHOOSE CHOOSE YOUR SIDE. SO WE'RE WE'RE FINISHED WITH THIS. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON, I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT A RESOLUTION. I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I GET A LOT OF CALLS COMPLAINING ABOUT DART. PERSONALLY, I'VE RODE ON THE TRAIN TO DOWNTOWN AND HAVE SAT IN FRONT OF A GENTLEMAN THAT CAUGHT HIMSELF ON FIRE BECAUSE HE WAS SMOKING A BLUNT ON THE TRAIN AND COULD NOT GET ANYONE TO COME AND ASSIST WITH THE SITUATION. THERE WAS AN OFFICER THAT GOT ON, LOOKED AND GOT RIGHT BACK OFF. WE ALSO HAVE RAIL ARMS THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY MALFUNCTIONING, WHICH IS IT'S AN ISSUE WHEN IT'S AT MAIN THOROUGHFARES AND IT'S BACKING TRAFFIC UP, AND PEOPLE GET REALLY IRRITATED WHEN THEY'RE STUCK IN TRAFFIC. SO I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT A RESOTION, BUT IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT WHEN WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE ARE TWO BIG THINGS IN MY OPINION. IF YOU DON'T FEEL SAFE GETTING ON DART, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RIDE IT. SO I THINK IF WE COULD GET SOME OF THOSE LITTLE KINKS WORKED OUT, THEN IT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER TO SUPPORT A RESOLUTION ON THAT. BUT MAY I RESPOND, MISTER, PLEASE? I AGREE WITH YOU. SECURITY AND SAFETY ARE MY NUMBER ONE ISSUE. ONCE WE GET PAST AUSTIN, WE HAVE PAID. WE'VE HIRED NEW FOLKS. I'VE BEEN ON THE TRAIN MANY TIMES TO DOWNTOWN. NOW WE HAVE SURGES GOING ON BACK AND FORTH, NOT ONLY TO CHECK FARES, BUT AS OFFICERS. THERE'S TWO OFFICERS AND FEO GOING THROUGH THE TRAINS ON THAT. I CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY AN OFFICER THAT'S INEXCUSABLE TO ME, WHY AN OFFICER WOULD STEP ON THE TRAIN, SEE SOMETHING AND WALK OFF THAT YOU DIDN'T. IF YOU GOT A BADGE NUMBER OR SOMETHING, I'D SURE LIKE TO KNOW THAT. BUT THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. AND ALL I CAN SAY WITH THAT, I MEAN, WE'VE PUT NEW SEATS IN, AS YOU KNOW, IN THE TRAINS AND SOME OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING, BUT THE BOARD IS FOCUSED ON SAFETY AND SECURITY AND THAT 25%, IF IT GETS CARVED OFF, WILL YOU'LL FEEL THAT EFFECT. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING. I WANT TO FIX THE PROBLEMS. YOU HAVE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I HOPE YOU CAN STILL IF YOU DO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION, BECAUSE THAT MONEY IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WILL GO BACK TO HELP THE FOLKS IN GARLAND. SO THAT'S ALSO ON THE SIGNALIZATION RAILS. MAJOR CONCERN IS ACROSS MAIN STREET AS AS YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD, PART OF THE MONEY THAT WE ARE SETTING ASIDE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE RE SIGNALIZATION THE SIGNALS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING NADINE CAN SPEAK OF MORE, BUT OUR SIGNALS ARE OLD, VERY OLD, AND WE'RE TRYING TO UPDATE AND NEW SIGNALIZATION WE HAVE WWNO AS WELL AS AS, AS OUR OWN TRAINS AND COORDINATING. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY IN THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT PROGRAM. YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE DETAILS ON WHERE THE GATE ARMS ARE NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY. I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD THAT WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM IN GARLAND. I'M NOT SURPRISED THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE A NON UNUNIFIED OR NON-UNIFIED SIGNAL SYSTEM. WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WE CALL DART TRANSFORM. IT'S A SYSTEM MODERNIZATION PROGRAM THAT'S SET TO REPLACE OUR ENTIRE BUS FLEET, AS WELAS OUR LIGHT RAIL VEHICLE FLEET, WHICH IS ALMOST 30 YEARS OLD AND PART OF THE SYSTEM MODERNIZATION PROGRAM IS DOING A UPGRADING OUR SIGNAL SYSTEM TO BECOME A UNIFIED SIGNAL SYSTEM. WE HAVE DIFFERENT SIGNALING SYSTEMS ON THE DIFFERENT RAIL LINES BECAUSE THEY WERE BUILT AT DIFFERENT TIMES NOW, AND WITHOUT JUDGING WHY THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE, IT IS PROBABLY NOT THE MOST OPTIMAL OPERATIONAL CONFIGURATION THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'RE WE WANT TO INVEST SOME SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS TO MAKE THOSE THINGS MORE UNIFIED. THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS. BUT AGAIN, FUNDING AS MAYOR ENOCH DESCRIBED, IT WILL BE CRITICAL FOR US TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO GET IN THE QUEUE. YOU AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME, AND YOU'VE NEVER NOT ASKED QUESTIONS OF DART. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES. HE'S RIGHT. WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER TOO

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LONG. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THE YOU SAID THE. RFP IS THE. GARLAND ALLOCATED 20 MILLION PLUS FOR THE TOD MASTER PLAN AROUND THE SOUTH GARLAND CENTER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT I KEEP HEARING, IT'S COMING. BUT PEOPLE ARE NOT SEEING ANYTHING. YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD FROM ME BEFORE. THE BUT THE CENTER NOT BEING OPEN. BUT PEOPLE NOT HAVING ACCESS THOSE KINDS OF SO THEY AVOID DART. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT. THE PROCESS OF THE 20 MILLION UP THERE AND HOW JUST KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHEN YOU HAVE THE RESPONSES AND THEN WHAT'S NEXT? OR WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE CITY MANAGER? JUST BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THAT PROCESS? SURE.

LET ME DISTINGUISH BETWEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING AT LAKE RAY HUBBARD VERSUS WHAT'S HAPPENING AT SOUTH GARLAND. I'M TALKING ABOUT SOUTH GARLAND NOW. YEAH OKAY. BECAUSE LAKE RAY HUBBARD IS THE IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY. WE'RE WAITING ON THE PROPOSALS FOR. AND WE'LL GET THEM THIS WEEK. EXCUSE ME. IT'S LAKE RAY HUBBARD STATION TRANSIT STATION. THAT'S THAT'S THE LOCATION I'M TALKING ABOUT OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT LOCATION. SO AND I'LL DEFER TO MR. REX ALSO TO FILL IN ANY BLANKS THAT I DON'T COVER. SO. SO AT LAKE RAY H HUBBARD, MEAN, WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CREATE THE MOST ATTRACTIVE RFP TO PUT OUT ON THE STREETS IN HOPES OF ATTRACTING THE BEST DEVELOPMENT THAT MEETS ALL THE GOALS AND THE VISION THAT YOU HAVE. TYPICALLY, WHEN WE WORK WITH THE CITY TO DO A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, IT'S NOT ALL DART'S HOPES AND DREAMS. IT'S ALSO WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KINDS OF USES YOU ALL WANT AT THESE LOCATIONS, AND TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. WE LIKE TO LEVERAGE OUR PROPERTY, OUR TRANSIT FUNCTION, AND OUR TRANSIT OPERATIONS CAN BE ADAPTED SOMEHOW TO BE INTEGRATED INTO YOUR DEVELOPMENT IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY CONFIGURED. AND SO WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE MAKE THE OR LEAVE THE MOST FLEXIBILITY FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND ACHIEVE BOTH THE CITY'S VISION AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER'S VISION, AND ALSO ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE. SO IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS, IT USUALLY TAKES QUITE SOME TIME, DEPENDING ON DEPENDING ON WHERE THE CITY'S VISION IS. WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE THOSE, THOSE DETAILS INTO THE RFP. AND THEN ONCE WE'RE READY TO RELEASE IT, THEN WE JUST PUT IT OUT TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND HOPE THAT WE GET SOME REALLY GREAT PROPOSALS SOMETIMES. AND I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT ON MARCH 27TH, YOU KNOW, EXCUSE ME, BUT ANTHEM DEVELOPMENT IS NOW OPEN. THEY'RE ON THE GROUND. THEY'RE NOT FINISHED. CORRECT. YES.

THAT'S RIGHT. THEY BROKE GROUND. YES, YES, THEY BROKE GROUND. YES. AND SO I WAS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT AS PART OF THE WHOLE TOD PROCESS, DART IS HOSTING A TOD SUMMIT ON MARCH 27TH, WHERE WE'RE BRINGING IN SPEAKERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD WHO HAVE WORKED WITH DIFFERENT CITIES AND THEIR TRANSIT SYSTEMS TO BRING MORE DEVELOPMENT TO EACH OF THESE CITIES AND TO GIVE PEOPLE DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT WHAT THINGS COULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW THEY COULD INTERACT WITH THE SPACES AROUND YOUR STATIONS AND STUFF. SO WE'RE BRINGING THAT TO THIS REGION BECAUSE WE THINK, YOU KNOW, HELPING EVERYBODY ENVISION WHAT'S POSSIBLE IS, IS A IS A GOOD IDEA. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT REALLY FULLY ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION IN TERMS OF PROCESS, BUT I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT MR. REX TO SEE IF HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUMP IN AND SAVE ME. NOW, NADINE, APPRECIATE THAT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT, COUNCILMAN, AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY ITERATIVE PROCESS FOR THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD SITE. SO WE'VE HAD A PHASE ONE THAT'S ALL BEEN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP AND A PHASE TWO, THAT'S DART OWNERSHIP. AND TRYING TO CREATE A COHESIVE TOD PLAN FOR BOTH, YOU KNOW, STARTED WITH THE PUBLIC INPUT AND THEN WE REZONED EVERYTHING. AND NOW WE'RE IN THIS RFP PROCESS. AND I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO WORK WITH DART TO SELECT THE BEST DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT'S GOING TO DELIVER THE VISION THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED WHEN IT COMES TO THE MASTER PLAN FOR THAT AREA. SO WE'RE WE'RE NEAR THE FINISH LINE NOW. IT'S BEEN A THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING, BUT WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE NOW. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. ONE FINAL QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THE $0.01 SALES TAX WANTING TO CUT IT TO THREE QUARTERS. EXPLAIN

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THE IMPACT ON ON GARLAND. WHAT IMPACT WOULD YOU HAVE GIVEN US. SOME A GLOBAL NUMBERS. BUT THAT IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN TALK ABOUT IT. LET ME LET ME JUST SAY VERY QUICKLY THAT THAT THE 25% IS A LITTLE DECEPTIVE. AND THE REASON IT'S DECEPTIVE IS BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE THE DOLLAR, ABOUT $0.30 OF THAT DOLLAR PAYS OFF OUR DEBT SERVICE DEBT AMORTIZATION. SO WE HAVE ABOUT $0.70 LEFT OVER FOR OPERATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE PERSONNEL RUNNING TRAINS, RUNNING BUSSES, 25% COMES OFF OF THAT. SO NOW WE ARE DOWN TO WHAT IS THAT 45% OF THE MONEY T THAT WE HAVE FOR OPERATIONS, INSTEAD OF 70% OF OUR REVENUES? THAT WOULD BE A DRASTIC CUT. IT'S NOT JUST LIKE SAYING, OKAY, $62 MILLION WORTH OF EXCUSE ME INVESTMENT BY DART INTO THE CITY OF GARLAND WITH THE BUS SERVICE TO GO LINK THE PARATRANSIT LIKE WE FOUND. IT'S NOT JUST CUTTING 15 OR $16 MILLION OFF OF THAT BEING 25%, IT'S 40% OFF OF THAT. AND THAT WOULD BE I'VE SEEN PEOPLE IN THE PAPER AND I'VE SEEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SAY, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT DIRE. WE'LL LIVE AND WE'LL SURVIVE BEYOND THAT. WELL, FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT'S GOING TO BE DIRE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SERVICES. SO THE 25% IS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE IT'S MORE LIKE A 40% CUT IN OPERATIONS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEND.

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW IT WOULD AFFECT IT. WE WOULD WORK DOWN THE BUS SERVICE TO FIND OUT THE LEAST EFFICIENT TO GET GET RID OF FIRST. BUT WE'RE GOING TO CUT BEYOND THE BONE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FAT, IT'S GOING TO BE CUTTING BONE IF WE GET TO IT. AND TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT ON THEUMBERS, 25% OF OUR SALESAX REVENUES IS ABOUT $220 MILLION. OUR OPERATING BUDGET CURRENTLY IS $720 MILLION. SO IT IS SIGNIFICANT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. VERY GOOD. EXCUSE ME. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS. I'M JUST GOING TO I SEE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. MAYOR PRO TEM OKAY. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. AS I'VE SAT AND LISTENED, I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT MY SMILE. MY SMILE IS NOT ONE OF ACCEPTANCE OR REJECTION. I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK AND TO SAY WHAT'S IN THEIR HEARTS AND WHAT'S ON THEIR MINDS, AND MY SMILE IS ONE THAT SAYS I RESPECT THAT TREMENDOUSLY. I DON'T MEAN THAT I'M ACCEPTING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR REJECTING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S JUST THAT I'M LISTENING. AND I HAVE DONE A GREAT DEAL OF LISTENING. GARY, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I, WE DO. WE SIT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER, AND WE DO A LOT OF CONVERSING AND TALKING ONE WITH THE OTHER. AND I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD YOU, YOU'VE BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT WAS ON MY HEART AND ON MY MIND. I TAKE A LITTLE OFFENSE WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THAT GARLAND HAS BEEN ON THE SIDELINES. GARLAND HAS NOT BEEN ON THE SIDELINES. WE HAVE BEEN A VERY INTEGRAL PART OF THIS TOTAL PROCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AND SO I THINK THAT WHAT I'M GOING TO DO AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO GO TO I NEED TO DO SOMETHING, MAYOR, TO KIND OF SHED SOME LIGHT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND THEN I THINK THAT WE WILL GET TO THE REAL ISSUE, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TAKING PLACE HERE, LOTS OF MOVING PARTS, AND WE CAN BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT AND ARTICULATE THE DIFFERENT THINGS ON THE BOARD AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. BUT IS THAT THE REAL ISSUE? DART CAME BEFORE THE RTC LAST THURSDAY, AND YOU CAME WITH A PROPOSAL. YOU WERE ASKING FOR THE RTC TO DO SOMETHING, OF WHICH THE RTC DECIDED THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO DO. COULD YOU PLEASE VERY QUICKLY ELABORATE ON WHAT THAT REQUEST WAS AND WHY RTC DECIDED NOT TO CARRY? ARE YOU THE ONE SO OKAY, YES. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT HAPPENED THIS THIS PAST THURSDAY? YEAH. WELL, I THINK I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WHAT HAPPENED IS WELL, FIRST, WHAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR. WELL, I ALL I DID ACTUALLY IN THE, IN, IN MY LETTER THAT I PUT OUT AND THEN AND IN THE RESOLUTION IS PUT THAT OUT AS A STRAW MAN AND SAID THAT THAT'S WHAT THE, THE, THE DART BOARD WAS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AND THAT WE HAD AN UPCOMING MEETING. I DID NOT ASK FOR ANYTHING. MICHAEL MORRIS ASKED THAT WE THERE WAS AN ITEM ON THE AND WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T CHALLENGE THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE AT A PRIOR MEETING AT ALL. I MEAN, IT HAD BEEN MADE. MICHAEL ASKED THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR FOR THE REGION FELT LIKE HE HAD A STAKE IN THE GAME, AND HE FEELS STRONGLY THAT WE

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NEED NOT TO DO WHAT WE'RE ABOUT THAT WE COULD BE DOING HERE. SO HE HAD AN ITEM UP THERE AGAIN WHICH SAYS. SUPPORT THE FULL PENNY FOR DART. SUPPORT THE FULL PENNY. YEAH, EXACTLY. AND THEN WE MOVED. BUT NOBODY TOOK ANY ACTION ON THAT BECAUSE WE HAD ACTUALLY VOTED ON THAT. THE PRIOR RTC MEETING. THE NEXT ITEM, THOUGH, WAS THE ONE THAT WE ARE DOING THAT DID PASS, WHICH IS THE ARBITRATION APPROACH THAT HE AND JUDGE JENKINS WANT TO DO WITH THE MEMBERS THAT I MENTIONED. AND I THINK THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME REALERIT IN THE ARBITRATION DISCUSSION, AND I'M ANXIOUS TO GET THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A AS I SAID, WE HAD A MEETING ON FRIDAY TO KIND OF FEEL EACH OTHER OUT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO MORE MEETINGS ON NEXT MONDAY AND TUESDAY. AND THEN ON THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY. UNFORTUNATELY, THE MAYOR OF PLANO WASN'T THERE, SO HE HAD SENT HIS LEGISLATIVE PERSON. BUT WE STILL WE STILL HAD A GOOD FEEL FOR WHERE EVERYBODY WAS OKAY. BUT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER, BUT THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WAS THE RTC HAS VOTED THAT THEY WILL NOT ASK THAT THE LANGUAGE BE REMOVED, THAT THE THAT GOES BEFORE AUSTIN. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S LEGISLATION IN AUSTIN PRESENTLY AND THE DART BOARD WOULD LIKE FOR THE RTC TO REMOVE THAT LANGUAGE. BUT THE RTC DECIDED, NO, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT LANGUAGE BECAUSE WE TRULY DO FEEL AT THIS POINT THAT BY LEAVING THE LANGUAGE, IT REALLY DOES CONTINUE TO PUT THE EMPHASIS ON DART TO COME FORWARD AND WORK WITH THE MEMBER CITIES AND COUNCIL. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY DEALING WITH HERE. WE'RE REALLY DEALING WITH. GARLAND IS PART OF THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, WHICH IS A BODY OF ALL OF THE REGIONAL CITIES IN THIS REGION. AND WHEN WE TALK, WE DON'T TALK AS ONE.

WE TALK AS A BODY. WE VOTE AS A BODY. AND WHEN THIS VOTE WAS TAKEN PLACE, THE VOTE WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO LEAVE THE LANGUAGE AS IT WAS AND ALLOW IT TO GO TO AUSTIN. NOW, WHAT WE'VE DECIDED AT THIS POINT, YOU ARE IN THE PHASE TWO AT THIS POINT OF WHERE THERE ARE FOUR ENTITIES THAT ARE TALKING THROUGH. AND THE KEY HERE IS ALL OF THE MEMBER CITIES JUST WANT ONE THING. WHATEVER THEY PUT INTO DART, THEY WANT TO GET IT BACK. THEY WANT EQUAL REPRESENTATION.

THEY WANT EQUAL FINANCING. AS A RESULT OF THAT. AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE UNTIL WHAT IS IT, APRIL THE 1ST? IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT IN THAT RANGE. YES, SIR. WE'VE GIVEN DART THE OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL 1ST TO MEET WITH THOSE CITIES UPON WHICH THEY HAVE OBJECTIONS AND THEY'RE PENDING HAVING PROBLEMS WITH TO TRY TO WORK OUT SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION SUCH THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK TO US AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WE WILL THEN VOTE TO TAKE TO TAKE THESE THIS LANGUAGE OFF OR TO LEAVE IT ON, BECAUSE MANY OF THE MEMBER CITIES DO FEEL THAT THE LANGUAGE IS THE ONLY THING RIGHT NOW THAT IS REALLY FORCING DART TO COME TO THE TABLE AND TO NEGOTIATE, TO COMPROMISE AND TO HEAR THE REAL PROBLEMS THAT THE CITIES ARE HAVING NOW, AS A RESULT OF THAT, I HAVE TO WE I HAVE LANGUAGE RIGHT HERE FROM MCNAMARA. IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS EVEN DID AS OF TODAY. OKAY. AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS COMPLEMENTARY. I THINK YOU'RE GREAT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU SHOULD BE TALKING TO ALL OF THE CITIES. BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW, WHAT I DON'T WANT US TO EVER HAPPEN IS FOR THE MEMBER CITIES TO GO TO FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL TRYING TO TAKE ONE DEAL HERE OR THERE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. IT COMPROMISES US AS A REGION. AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, I'M GOING TO SAY TO YOU THAT MY RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IS THAT WE ALLOW YOU TO PLAY OUT. THAT FEEL WHICH RTC HAS ASKED OF YOU TO DO SO AND THAT YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. YOU'VE GOT 2 OR 3 MORE WEEKS. HOWEVER, IT IS WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO THERE AND SUCH THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK IT WON'T BE GARLAND SAYING YAY OR NAY. IT'LL BE US AS A BODY SAYING YAY OR NAY, AND THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL IN THE WAY OF HOW WE AS A CITY WANT TO GO FORWARD. HAVE I MADE ANY SENSE HERE, MR. MAYOR? YES. AMAZINGLY, THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW, THE THINGS YOU READ IN THE PAPER AND THE SURFACE THINGS. BUT THERE ARE CERTAINLY A LOT OF THINGS AT PLAY HERE. AND YOU HAVE SUMMARIZED IT VERY NICELY, SIR, I APPRECIATE IT. AND NO, I DON'T DO A LOT OF TALK, BUT I GET THINGS DONE AN I ACT. AND THE HALF THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROBLEM, WE CAN CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE FLUFF. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM THAT

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WE NEED TO DO THAT. AND I SAY TO YOU, GARY, AGAIN, MAN, GARLAND AND DART, WE'VE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE. NOT ONLY WE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP, WE PUT A GREAT LETTER TOGETHER FOR YOU IN SUPPORT OF YOU, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT. BUT THERE IS A GREATER ISSUE. THERE IS A GREATER ISSUE HERE, AND YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. AND I WANT TO SEE YOU CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT AND WORK IT THROUGH, AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN APRIL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, I SEE NONE. I WILL TELL YOU THIS. AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I AM SORT OF WINDIN DOWN MY TIME IN THIS SEAT. IT'S DOWN TO, I DON'T KNOW, EIGHT WEEKS, WHATEVER IT IS, 9 OR 10 DEPENDING ON RUNOFFS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND, AND SO I HAVE SEEN. YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN WHERE DART HAS COME FROM IN THE CITY AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE TOGETHER. YES, WE HAVE HAD A GOOD PARTNERSHIP OVER THE YEARS AND I THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE. AND I'VE ALSO SEEN YOUR, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS YOUR RESPONSIVENESS TO OUR QUESTIONS FOR YOUR UPDATES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS HAS PROBABLY SET THE RECORD FOR THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ASKED OF DART, BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU FOLLOWED UP ON ALL OF THEM, WHETHER THAT WAS ABOUT SHELTERS OR WHETHER THAT WAS ABOUT ROUTES, WHETHER THAT WAS ABOUT CLEANLINESS, SAFETY AND SO ON AND SO ON. SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE ARE CERTAINLY AT A CROSSROADS WITH DART AND ALL THE MEMBER CITIES. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO. I HAVE TO GO ON THE, THE FAITH THAT. IF, AS MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, IF WE ALL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIHIS, WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT, WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT AND FIGURE THAT OUT IN-HOUSE OR IN WITHIN THE WITHIN THE SYSTEM. BUT AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MADE A LOT OF GREAT EFFORTS TOWARDS DOING THAT. I KNOW YOU'VE MET WITH US MULTIPLE TIMES. I KNOW YOU'VE MET WITH THE OTHER MEMBER CITIES MULTIPLE TIMES. AND SO I THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE. AND IF, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ARBITRATION PAY OFF, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD I THINK THAT IS A GOOD OPTION FOR US. SO WE WILL CONTINUE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT DART IN OUR WAY AND THE WAY THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND WITH THAT, I WILL TELL YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, I AM VERY GLAD THAT I DID NOT ACCEPT YOUR REQUEST TO BE REMOVED FROM THE RTC IN PREVIOUS YEARS BECAUSE I THINK YOU'VE DONE A FINE JOB REPRESENTING US THERE, AND CERTAINLY IN A VERY COMPLEX TIME. SO THANK YOU TO YOU. THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU AS WELL. ALL

[6. 519 State Street: Further Consideration of the Sales Agreement and Development Agreement, to Discuss Possible Amendments This item was requested by Councilmember Beard and seconded by Councilmember Ott.]

RIGHT. MOVING ON. EXCUSE ME. MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX19 STRAIGHT STATE STREET. FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF THE SALES AGREEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE WE GET GOING. ONE, TONIGHT WE DO NOT HAVE. AND IF WE COULD GET RID OF THAT PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN, I'D APPRECIATE IT TO THAT POINT. WE DO NOT HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION FOR THIS EVENING, AND WE ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE WELL, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT HERE TO APPROVE, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THAT THAT THAT ISSUE WAS DECIDED AT OUR LAST REGULAR MEETING. TO THAT POINT, I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS AND APOLOGIZE. THE VOTING ON THAT ITEM DID NOT GO WELL. IT WAS NOT A SHINING MOMENT FOR ME AS FAR AS PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES GO. THAT IS 100% ON ME. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD OR SHOULD HAVE OR WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY IN HINDSIGHT. AND I KNOW THE ISSUE GOT A LITTLE MUDDY, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. SO FOR TONIGHT, AGAIN, WE DO NOT HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM TO SEE. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO DETERMINE IF THERE IS A

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CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. GOING BACK TO THE DEVELOPER. WE'RE NOT HERE TO REHASH THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT AGAIN. IT WAS DEFEATED. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO SEE IF THERE IS CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD TO GOING BACK TO THE TABLE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE. WE ALSO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT HERE. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED ON ON YOU KNOW FOR THE FROM THE SPEAKERS. AND AT THE END OF THE SPEAKERS, I AM SIMPLY GOING TO ASK IF THERE IS CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD, IF THERE IS CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GOING BACK TO NEGOTIATIONS, WE LL DISCUSS THOSE COMPETITIVE MATTERS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE ALREADY HAVE THAT LINED UP FOR THIS EVENING THAT IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE WILL DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS AND THAT WE WILL THEN PRESENT BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE CLEAR. ALL RIGHT. MADAM FIRST SPEAKERS AND I WOULD LIKER TO GROUP THE THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OR 2 OR 3 FOLKS HERE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. IF WE COULD HAVE THEM COME UP TOGETHER. I'M NOT SURE. I KNOW WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO SPEAKER CARDS. I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ALL THREE, BUT I WOULD INVITE ALL THREE FORWARD AND WE'LL GIVE THEM. SO AGAIN, SINCE WE'VE KIND OF RUN THROUGH THIS BEFORE, TYPICAL SPEAKER TIME ON THIS ITEM IS THREE MINUTES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. LET'S GIVE THEM SIX MINUTES. AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT. MR. DAY AND MR. GOOD. HE'S WE GOT THREE CHAIRS. AND IF I COULD GET YOU TO JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I REALIZE YOU GOT CAUGHT IN SOME TRAFFIC ON THE WAY, SO THAT'S NEVER FUN. BUT IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAMES AND ADDRESSES FOR THE RECORD, WE'LL GIVE YOU SIX MINUTES. MAYBE YOU CAN TELL US WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO TELL US IN SIX MINUTES, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. RAY PHILLIPS, LUTHER ADDRESS 331 OAKWOOD TRAIL, FAIRVIEW, 75069. DONE. DATE I LIVE AT 110 EAST LOUISIANA STREET IN THE SAME. AND THAT'S ENOUGH. MIKE LUTHER.

SURPRISINGLY, I LIVE AT 331 OAKWOOD TRAIL. YOU BETTER. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

AND THE FLOOR IS YOURS. ALL RIGHT, LET ME MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT I DIDN'T MAKE LAST TIME. BUT AFTER SEEING ALL THE DISCUSSION, I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH BRINGING FORWARD IN THE EVENT THAT THE ALLIES HOUSE COMES TO REALITY, IT WILL DRAW APPROXIMATELY 100 TO 200,000 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR TO OUR DOWNTOWN. AND MY EXPERIENCE THAT LARGE INCREASE IN FOOT TRAFFIC WILL BENEFIT EVERYONE DOWN THERE. THE OTHER RESTAURANTS, THE OTHER MERCHANTS. WE RENOVATED 30 BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY AND. SPONSORED TEN RESTAURANTS. RESTAURANTS DO NOT CANNIBALIZE EACH OTHER. THEY FEED EACH OTHER. NONE OF US WANT TO EAT THE SAME MEAL EVERY TIME.

WE LIKE DIFFERENT PLACES. SO WHEN YOU DRAW THAT MANY PEOPLE TO YOUR DOWNTOWN, THEY SEE THE BARBECUE RESTAURANT NEXT DOOR. THEY WILL GO TO THE BARBECUE RESTAURANT. THE SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE THAT BUILDING IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR TAX BILL FOR $160,000. WE WILL SPEND IN EXCESS OF $3 MILLION TO RENOVATE. THAT INCREASE VALUE WILL PAY BACK THE CITY FOR ITS EXPENSES OVER TIME. LAST SUMMER I WILL BUY THAT BUILDING. WE HAVE NOW HAD TIME TO INSPECT IT WITH OUR STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS AND OUR CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE. IT IS IN WORSE SHAPE THAN WE REALIZE, AND I SUSPECT WE'LL SHAPE THAN MOST OF YOU REALIZE. THE REAL WEST SIDE. THE ROOF HAS SAGGED APPROXIMATELY A FOOT, AND ALL THE JOISTS ON THE WEST SIDE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STRAIGHT UP

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AND DOWN. THEY'RE LEANING ABOUT A FOOT. THIS WHOLE THING, WITH THE RIGHT WEATHER CONDITIONS, RAIN, SLEET, SNOW, THAT ROOF ON THE WEST SIDE IS GOING TO FALL. IT WILL COST US AN EXTRA $4 MILLION TO FIX BECAUSE IT'S WORSE IN WINTERS. CURNTLY, IT IS OUR BELIEF THAT THE ONLY THING WE CAN SALVAGE THERE ARE THE BRICK WALLS AND OF COURSE, THE GROUND ITSELF. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, WHETHER YOU VOTE WITH US OR SOMEONE ELSE, DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. THAT BUILDING IS DANGEROUS AND IF IT FALLS, IT WILL BECOME A WORSE EYESORE THAN IT CURRENTLY IS.

THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. CAN YOU HIT THE TIMER FOR I THINK THREE MINUTES WENT. CAN YOU? THERE WE GO. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. I'M WONDERFUL TO SEE ALL OF YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US SOME TIME TO SHARE SOME CLARIFYING POINTS I THINK ARE IMPORTANT RELATIVE TO THE DISCUSSION. AS DON MENTIONED. FIRST, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF THE OWL. ON A NORMAL DAY OF BUSINESS, THE DOWNSTAIRS WILL SEAT 120 PEOPLE ON PAPER. AND THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BUILT ANYTHING ON PAPER KNOW THAT THAT'S ALWAYS KIND OF IDEAL STATE. WE ANTICIPATE THAT ONCE THE DECOR AND OTHER NEEDS ARE PLACED, IT'S LIKELY CLOSER TO 100, AND THERE'S A PRIVATE DINING ROOM THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE 70 TO 80, DEPENDING ON THE SETUP OF TABLES. THAT DINING ROOM WILL BE USED FOR COMMUNITY CELEBRATIONS, BABY SHOWERS, GRADUATION PARTIES AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS OF GARLAND INDICATED WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND ALL OF YOU INDICATED WAS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS CONCEPT WAS AND IS. AND WE WORKED INCREDIBLY HARD TO ACCOMMODATE. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT CAPACITY TO DISTINCT, THERE'S THERE NEEDS TO BE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS. ADDITIONALLY, ON THE TOP FLOOR, WE ESTIMAT ABOUT 65 SEATS. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME SOME LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS REALLY KIND OF OUT THERE CLAIMING THAT THIS IS A THIS IS A 450 SEAT FOOD HALL. I NEED TO BE EXTREMELY CLEAR THAT THAT IT'S ANYTHING BUT. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CAPACITY WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD DOCUMENTED FOR EVERYONE. THE OWL IS UNLIKE ANYTHING IN THE CITY OF GARLAND, AND THAT IS THE BEAUTY. IF WE WERE TO CREATE A CONCEPT LIKE THINGS THAT EXIST HERE, THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY CREATE COMPETITION. BUT AS DON MENTIONED, THIS IS PLACEMAKING.

THIS IS ABOUT BEING COMPLEMENTARY TO THE BUSINESSES THAT EXIST HERE. OUR MISSION IS ALL ABOUT CREATION OF COMMUNITY AND CONNECTEDNESS. AND I THINK THAT THAT ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT'S AT THE HEART OF THIS CONCEPT. SO FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABOUT YOUTH SPORTS TEAMS ROLLING IN ON A THURSDAY NIGHT. I'M EXHAUSTED. PARENTS, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOUTH SPORTS ON THE WEEKENDS, ROLLING IN IN BIG GROUPS AND COMMUNITIES. AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN IN ANY OF THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE HERE TODAY. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO DIFFERENT. THAT'S WHY THE SEATING IS SO IMPORTANT. I WANT TO UNDERSCORE WHAT DON SAID. THE BUILDING IS IN TERRIBLE REPAIR. THE CEILING WILL CAVE AND THE FLOORS ARE ROTTED. IT WILL TAKE A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT FOR US TO BRING THIS BUILDING UP TO CODE, WHILE PRESERVING THE CHARM AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. NOT EVERYBODY WILL DO THAT. MOST TRADITIONAL DEVELOPERS ARE NOT GOING TO GO IN AND HAVE THE HEART TO CAPTURE THE ESSENCE OF WHAT WAS THERE AND TELL THAT STORY AGAIN, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU DENOTE BETWEEN THOSE THINGS AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES. THERE'S ALSO SOME VERY PECULIAR AND QUIRKY REQUIREMENTS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. OUR DESIRE IS TO NOT ONLY COMPLY WITH THOSE, BUT ULTIMATELY TO TAKE IT BEYOND THAT. AND THEN FINALLY, I WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE 60,622 APPROXIMATELY FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN GARLAND TODAY, WITH ROUGHLY 26,000 OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS RAISING KIDDOS. THOSE FAMILIES ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING DINNER ON THE TABLE, OR THEY'RE GETTING SOMEBODY OFF TO MUSIC PRACTICE OR TO A SPORTS PRACTICE, SO THEY CAN'T SI HERE AND TELL YOU WHAT'S IN THEIR HEARTS. BUT WHAT I DID IS SCOURED THE INTERNET IN THE MANY FORMS THAT NOW EXIST TO DEBATE THE OWL ICE HOUSE AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT 519. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT FOR YOU, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY YOU, AS THE COUNCIL ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THEM. AND YOU NEED TO HEAR BEYOND THIS ROOM. YOU NEED TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID, WHICH IS WOO HOO, GREAT WAY TO USE THE BUILDING.

FINALLY, SOMETHING FOR FAMILIES. COULDN'T BE HAPPIER WITH THE RESULT OF THIS AND THE CONTINUED EFFORTS TO GET DOWNTOWN UPDATED. I LOVE IT PARKING A HALF BLOCK AWAY. NO BIG DEAL. THE VIBE.

THIS WILL BE SO GREAT. WE NEED THIS I DEVELOPED. THIS IS GREAT. I LOVE THAT WE RETAIN THE OLD SCHOOL FEEL BUT ALSO MIXEDITH NEW. GOING TO BE A HOT TIME IN THE SQUARE TONIGHT AFTER THIS COMES IN. THIS IS A SMALL SAMPLE OF THE HUNDREDS OF FAVORABLE COMMENTS THAT YOU'RE NOT PROBABLY GOING TO HEAR IN THIS ROOM THIS EVENING, BUT THAT EXISTS IN A NUMBER OF THOSE FORUMS. SO AS YOU CONSIDER THE FUTURE OF 519, I HOPE YOU REFLECT ON WHAT THE CITY OF GARLAND NOT ONLY NEEDS, BUT WHAT IT DESERVES. BECAUSE THE OWL ICE HOUSE CHECKS BOTH OF THOSE BOXES BEAUTIFULLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GROUP? OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER

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WILLIAMS, GOOD EVENING. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, SIR. SORRY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. MR. DE, IF THIS COUNCIL DECIDES TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN. IF, IF. WOULD YOU CONSIDER. A GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT AS AN OPTION. AS A POSSIBILITY? NO. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE. WHEN YOU DO A GROUND THIS WE HAVE WE WILL SPEND 3 MILLION. WHEN I PULLED THAT OUT OF OUR POCKET, WHAT I'M FINDING THAT 75% OF THAT IN A BANK IS VERY HARD TO GET FINANCING UNDERGROUND. THIS THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. HAVE YOU IN YOUR EXPERIENCE IN OTHER CITIES, HAVE YOU DONE A GROUND LEASE? WE HAVE DONE ONE, YES. RECENTLY. I'M SORRY. RECENTLY YOU DID ONE. YES. AND SIR, WHAT CAN YOU SHARE WITH US THE DIFFERENCES THAT LED YOU TO DO THAT ONE BUT NOT CONSIDER IT FOR GARLAND POLICE? THE CITY OF FIRST IS CONTRIBUTING HALF OF THE CLASS OF BUILDING THE BUILDING. IT WOULD BE 2.5 MILLION. THAT'S ALSO A RESTAURANT THAT WILL SERVE APPROXIMATELY TWICE AS MANY FOLKS AS WE BELIEVE WILL BE HERE. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE PROJECTING, BUT IF THAT'S IN A PREMIUM LOCATION ON THE TOLLWAY ON THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT A 7 OR $8 MILLION A YEAR BUSINESS, WHEREAS THIS ONE WE'RE HOPING WILL BE 3 OR 4, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. AND ANOTHER KEY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE HAVE 14 ACRES IN FRISCO. SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD GO OUT ON RETAIL PRICE AND PAY FOR 14 ACRES IN FRISCO, JUST LIKE WE COULDN'T PAY FOR 14 ACRES IN GARLAND. AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT 519 SPECIFICALLY, IT IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION IN THAT IF WE WERE TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT WHERE WE WANT TO BE IN GARLAND, WE BELIEVE WE BELONG ON THE SQUARE. BUT THERE'S OTHER PRIVATE REAL ESTATE AVAILABLE THAT WOULD LIKELY BE POTENTIALLY A FAR BETTER OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS OF JUST WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR US TO CONTRIBUTE. SO I THINK THEY JUST LOOK, THOSE THOSE DEALS DON'T LOOK ANYTHING ALIKE, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE ACREAGE. OKAY. YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR? YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAID. OH OKAY. OKAY. I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS YOU IF YOU YOU WERE SHAKING YOUR HEAD AND YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. DE, FOR THAT ANSWER.

COUNCILMEMBER BEARD, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING BACK AND FOR CLARIFYING SOME ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD. THIS HAS BEEN A. INTERESTING PROSPECT, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT AND YOUR CLARIFICATION TONIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US BACK. WE APPRECIATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER BASS, THANK YOU.

YEAH. HANG ON, HANG ON, HANG ON. THERE WE GO. WE BETTER OKAY. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING BACK AND APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING A LOT OF THE THINGS. SO ONE THING LOOKING AT SOME NOTES I HAVE HERE, SOME FROM SOME FEEDBACK I RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THE RENDERINGS. SO CAN YOU GUYS ADDRESS ADDRESS THE RENDERINGS. AND I KNOW YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BEFORE BUT CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT AGAIN. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE RENDERING IS INTENDED TO BE JUST THAT. AND AS WE MENTIONED, ARTISTS ARE ALSO ARE OFTENTIMES VERY GRAND IN THE WAY THEY LIKE TO, TO DEPICT THINGS. AND WE WERE MOVING VERY QUICKLY IN ORDER TO HAVE SOMETHING TO, TO HELP US VISUALIZE WHAT WOULD BE THERE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT RENDERING SPANS ABOUT NINE AND A HALF PARKING SPOTS, WHEN THE REALITY IS THE BUILDING IS ABOUT SIX, I THINK.

SO YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUTUT SCALE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. AND OUR DESIRE, THE INTENT IS TO TIE BEAUTIFULLY INTO THE ARCHITECTURE THAT EXISTS. AND WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH MANY OF YOU. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLAZA AND YOU LOOK AT THE BALANCE OF THAT INLINE, WE ANTICIPATE AND DESIRE, THE DESIRED END GAME IS THAT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER. SO, YOU KNOW, WILL IT LOOK LIKE A HARDWARE SRE? I HOPE NOT. WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN EAT AND DRINK THERE, BUT THE DESIRE IS ALSO TO CREATE THIS REALLY BEAUTIFUL SYNERGY BETWEEN THE PARK IN THE CENTER AND THE EXTERIOR OF THE FACADE OF THAT BUILDING, HENCE THE GARAGE DOORS THAT ROLL UP. SO I THINK THE RENDERING ITSELF IS, IS PROBABLY NOT A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE THERE. THE VISION IS TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE IT'S BEEN LIVED IN. IT'S HISTORICALLY, YOU

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KNOW, RELEVANT. AND THEN I THINK ALSO THE SYNERGY THAT WE CREATE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SQUARE, THE INTERIOR OF THE SQUARE ITSELF IS, IS OF IMPORTANCE TO US AS WELL. SO I THINK WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SHOULD THIS ULTIMATELY MOVE FORWARD TO FURTHER CONVERSATION RE RENDERING THAT TO BETTER DEPICT WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL BE AND THESE, THESE THINGS, WHY IT IS THE RENDERING MAKES IT LOOK HUMONGOUS. YEAH. IN REALITY, WE BLOCK IN THE PLAZA BESIDE IT AND THE RETAIL STORES ON BOTH SIDES. THE PLAZA IS QUITE A BIT TALLER THAN IT IS, AND IT WILL PULL IT MORE IN SALES. SO YOU WILL SEE HOW IT BLENDS. IT WILL WORK IN IN THAT BLOCK. AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. VERY GOOD. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. HI. SO I WROTE YOU ALL A LETTER THE NIGHT OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AND I WANTED TO READ IT TO YOU. I FIGURED THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER IN PERSON. AND IT WAS A IT WAS A HARD NIGHT FOR ME AS WELL. SO I AM WRITING TO EXPRESS MY DEEP DISAPPOINTMENT REGARDING THE DENIAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE OWL ICE HOUSE AT TONIGHT'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MORE IMPORTANTLY, I URGE US TO RECONSIDER AND FIND A PATH FORWARD. THE OWL ICE HOUSE REPRESENTS EXACTLY THE KIND OF TRANSFORMATIVE DEVELOPMENT OUR DOWNTOWN NEEDS. WHILE MY CONCERN, MY CONCERN WAS ENSURING A CLEAR RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE $2.7 MILLION IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THIS PROJECT HOLDS IMMENSE VALUE IN OUR COMMUNITY. GARLAND HAS LONG BEEN A FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE CITY, OFTEN TO THE POINT OF MISSING KEY OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH, AND I FEAR THIS MAY BE ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS. A THRIVING DOWNTOWN IS VITAL TO GARLAND'S FUTURE, AND THIS CONCEPT ALIGNS PERFECTLY WITH OUR VISION. I REMAIN CONFIDENT IN THE OWL ICE HOUSE'S POTENTIAL FOR SUCCESS, AND I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE US TO REVISIT THIS AGREEMENT TO ENSURE TAXPAYERS SEE THE BENEFITS OF THEIR INVESTMENT. I AM EAGER TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY, COLLABORATIVELY TOWARD A SOLUTION THAT SATISFIES FINANCIAL CONCERNS WHILE SECURING THIS INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY, FOR OUR CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THIS GROUP? I SEE NONE, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND MADAM SECRETARY, IF YOU CAN CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER, PLEASE. CARRIE HOBSON. ANY CHAIR, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO YOU, MAN. IT'S UP TO YOU. ONCE YOU DECIDE ON A CHAIR, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CARRIE HUDSON, 4602 GOLDEN GATE WAY, DISTRICT THREE. I WISH THIS COULD BE MORE OF A TRUE CONVERSATION RATHER THAN A SOUNDING SET UP, LIKE A RANT OR A COMPLAINT. THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS, COMMUNITY AND ASSOCIATION HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OPEN TO DISCUSSION. WE JUST NEED TO BE INCLUDED. I GENUINELY APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THE CITY STAFF HAS PUT IN, AND THE COUNUNCIL HASUT IN TO MAKE OUR CITY BETTER DAY IN AND DAY OUT. AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I'VE BEEN A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNER FOR TEN YEARS NOW. I'VE ACTIVELY SUPPORTED NEW BUSINESSES AND REDEVELOPMENT.

I'VE SERVED ON THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, HELPED SHAPE DOWNTOWN'S BRANDING AND IDENTITY, AND CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE TIF BOARD, WHICH APPROVED FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF THIS PROPERTY. THAT'S WHY I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE PROPOSED USE DOESN'T NECESSARILY ALIGN WITH THE STUDIES AND THE SURVEYS, OR WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD ALL ALONG. ORIGINALLY, WE WERE TOLD THE CITY WOULD INVEST $9 MILLION INTO MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC USE, OR SOME SORT OF MIX THAT WOULD COMPLEMENT THE THEATER AND THE REST OF THE SQUARE AND SURROUNDING BUSINESSES. THE CITY POSTED THE SURVEY RESULTS YESTERDAY. ICE HOUSE AND ICE HOUSE WASN'T IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY. SEEING THIS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THREW UP SOME RED FLAGS FOR ME AND IT WAS VERY CONCERNING. I BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY IS A VITAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE DOWNTOWN, AND WE CAN'T JUST HIT THE EASY BUTTON ON IT. THIS IS A TOUGH DECISION. THE CITY GOT INVOLVED. WE OVERPAID FOR THE BUILDING, AND EVEN I STRUGGLED TO FIND A P AND L THAT WILL WORK FOR THE SPACE, THE ENTIRE SPACE, AND PAY BACK THE MONEY THE TAXPAYERS SPENT ON IT.

BUT AFTER 30 YEARS OF INACTION ON THE SPACE, WHY THE SUDDEN SENSE OF URGENCY WITHOUT ANY

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PUBLIC DISCUSSION OR OTHER OPTIONS TO CONSIDER? WE, IF WE HAD MARKETED IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, WOULD WE HAVE GENERATED MORE INTEREST? AND IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO DO THAT. I WON'T SPEND ALL OF MY TIME ON CONCERNS ABOUT COMPETITION OR PARKING. BUT THE REALITY IS THIS PROJECT IS PRETTY MASSIVE. IT IF IT FAILS, WE'RE STUCK WITH IT AGAIN. AND THE SAME AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE ACTUALLY MORE. OTHER DOWNTOWN PROPERTIES, IF YOU'VE NOTICED, HAVE HAD TO SUBDIVIDE TO MAKE IT FINANCIALLY VIABLE AND MAKE SENSE. THIS TELLS ME THAT ONE GIANT USE FOR THIS SPACE, ONE SINGLE USE FOR THIS SPACE, ISN'T THE RIGHT APPROACH. I'VE HEARD THE ARGUMENT THAT WE NEED MORE LATE NIGHT AND MORE LUNCH OPTIONS, BUT FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER RESTAURANT OWNERS IS THAT THE DEMAND SIMPLY ISN'T THERE. IF WE COULD MAKE THAT PROFITABLE, WE WOULD DO IT. JUST ADDING SUPPLY WON'T CREATE DEMAND OR INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF FOOT TRAFFIC THAT FOOT TRAFFIC TRAFFIC THAT WE'VE TRIED TO GET THROUGHOUT THE WEEKDAYS. I WANT TO SEE THE CITY THRIVE. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE A STEP BACK, EXPLORE MORE OPTIONS, MAYBE RECONSIDER THE CITY DEVELOPED PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, OR AT THE VERY LEAST, TAKE SPECIAL CARE TO EFFECTIVELY MARKET THIS OPPORTUNITY. THERE IS A SOLUTION. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE FOUND IT YET. WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROJECT TRULY ALIGNS WITH OUR VISION AND OUR DOWNTOWN. THAT'S ALL I GOT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE. SORRY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. I HEARD T THERE S A BEEP, BUT THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE SCREEN. TURN OFF MY MIC. YOU MENTIONED THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION SEVERAL TIMES. ARE YOU SPEAKING TONIGHT AS A REPRESENTATIVE VOICE OF THAT BODY? I'M NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. MATTHEW ARCHER. MATTHEW. YEAH. MY NAME. YEAH. SO IF YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR NAME, MATTHEW, AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. MATTHEW ARCHER. I GO BY MATT. THE SECOND T IS SILENT. 400 SOUTH 11TH STREET, GARLAND, TEXAS, 75040. REALLY? ONLY GISTERED AS A SPEAKER BECAUSE I HAD A DIFFERENT IDEA OF WHAT TONIGHT WAS. SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING, MISTER MAYOR. WHAT WE WERE HERE TO TALK ABOUT. I DO ECHO ECHO. A LOT OF CARRIE'S SENTIMENT ABOUT WE NEED TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR OUR CITY. THE ALLIES HOUSE IS AN AMAZING CONCEPT, AND NO DOUBT PEOPLE WOULD COME AND PEOPLE WOULD BE DOWNTOWN TO CHECK THAT OUT. I'VE BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF BRINGING NEW BUSINESS DOWN. ALL OF THE NEW RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE OPENED. MY NEAREST NEIGHBOR, WHO IS REALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT I DO. YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ME SCREAM ABOUT THAT, HAVE YOU? SO I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF INCREASING TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN. THE WAY WE'RE GIVING THIS PROPERTY AWAY IS A BAD IDEA. SO WILL IT PAY ITSELF BACK TEN? I THINK TEN YEARS IS WHAT MR. X HAD PUT ON THE INITIAL SLIDE PRESENTATION. NOT REAL SURE THAT THAT'S COMPLETELY VALIDATED, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE DEAL. I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE. AND CARRIE MENTIONED, HAD WE MARKETED THIS DIFFERENTLY, COULD WE HAVE GOTTEN MORE THAN ZERO RESPONSES? IF I KNEW A PROPERTY WAS GOING TO BE GIFTED, I WOULD HAVE RUN TO INVESTORS.

SO JUST FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? OH, I SEE NONE. THANK YOU SIR.

CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. I HAVE NO MORE. OH, WELL, THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'VE GOT A HAND RIGHT THERE. IS THERE ANY WAY TO SAY SOMETHING EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T REGISTERED? WE TAKE THE CUP ONCE WE START THE MEETING. WE CUT OFF THE SIGN UP.

NO PROBLEM. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

THANK YOU TO THE TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HAVE SHOWN UP HERE THIS EVENING. THIS IS A YOU

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KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING, MOST COMPLICATED THINGS THAT WE HAVE DEALT WITH IN A GOOD LONG TIME. AND SO AT THIS POINT, COUNCIL, THE SIMPLE QUESTION THAT IS BEFORE US ON A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE IS DO WE IS THERE CONSENSUS TO REENGAGE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, GO BACK TO THE TABLE, LOOK FOR DIFFERENT WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE MAY COME UP WITH OR MAY WANT TO PROPOSE. THAT WOULD BE LATER IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO I WILL SIMPLY ASK, IS THERE CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GOING BACK TO THE TABLE? THAT WOULD BE EIGHT IN FAVOR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON IN OPPOSITION. SO COUNCIL, WE WILL TAKE THIS UP LATER THIS EVENING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WILL FLESH OUT WHATEVER COMES OUT AND WE'LL GO WITH WE'LL GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM WITH THAT. IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE OF ANYTHING COMING OUT AFTER THAT, BUT IT IS SHOWING A WILLINGNESS TO LOOK, TO LOOK FOR FURTHER ANSWERS. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT RECESS AND LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY BACK AT 740, PLEASE. BACK AT SEVEN. NO SORRY. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. YES.

IT'S 2025 WORK SESSION COUNCIL. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS LEFT ON OUR AGENDA AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A QUICK SWITCH. WE'RE GOING TO REVERSE ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT. SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO

[8. Legislative & Public Affairs Committee Report Councilmember B.J. Williams, Chair of the Legislative & Public Affairs Committee, and staff will provide a committee report. Ariel Traub, Managing Director of Legislative & Public Affairs, will discuss the 89th legislative session thus far.]

ITEM EIGHT. LEGISLATIVE AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS COMMITTEE REPORT. WHAT'S THAT? NO.

GOOD EVENING. I WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. THE LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION CURRENTLY. SOME BILLS ARE GOOD, SOME ARE BAD. AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION. AS THEY HAVE BEEN THE PREVIOUS 88 LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS. YES. ANY QUESTIONS? A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF TIMELINE. BILL FILING DEADLINE WAS LAST FRIDAY, SO ANYTHING FILED FROM HERE ON OUT IS JUST RESOLUTIONS IN BOTH CHAMBERS. IN THE LAST WEEK WE SAW ABOUT 3000 BILLS FILED. SO TAYLOR AND I ARE FURIOUSLY WORKING TO CATCH UP AND READ ALL OF READ ALL OF THEM. IN TOTAL, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 10,000 BILLS ROUGHLY FILED, AND I'VE GOT SOME BREAKDOWN HERE AS WELL. WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF UTILITY BILLS THAT GOES FOR WATER. THE, THE, OUR UTILITY, OUR GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT. THAT ALSO INCLUDES OUR LANDFILL, A LOT OF PUBLIC SAFETY BILLS. ONE OF NOTE IS BEING HEARD THIS WEEK. IT'S CALLED HOUSE BILL 33 OR THE UVALDE STRONG BILL THAT IS WORKING ON IN COORDINATION BETWEEN FIRST RESPONDERS. AND IN CASE OF AN EVENT LIKE UVALDE, WE ARE ACTIVELY TRACKING ROUGHLY A THOUSAND BILLS AS WE WORK THROUGH THOSE 3000 THAT WERE FILED LAST WEEK. THAT NUMBER IS EXPECTED TO DOUBLE, AND I HEAR OUTLINED SOME BILILLS THAT WE HE BEEN WORKING ON. I WANTED TO QUICKLY CALL OUT SENATE BILL 15. WE DID DROP SOME SOME COMMENTS AGAINST THAT BILL IN COMMITTEE LAST WEEK. IT WAS VOTED OUT PROMPTLY ON THURSDAY. ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE SOME OTHER LAND USE BILLS THAT WE SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS AGAINST SENATE BILL 840, SENATE BILL 854. THOSE WERE ALSO HEARD ON MONDAY IN SENATE LOCAL AND WERE VOTED OUT ON THURSDAY. WE SUBMITTED COMMENTS AGAINST SENATE BILL 1024, WHICH IS A MUNICIPAL FINANCE BILL.

ESSENTIALLY, IT RESTRICTS OUR ABILITY TO ISSUE ANTICIPATION NOTES OR COES FOLLOWING A FAILED BOND ELECTION. WE CAN'T DO THAT FOR FIVE YEARS. WE DID SUBMIT COMMENTS AGAINST THAT BILL, AND IT WAS PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE LAST WEEK AS WELL. WE SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS AGAINST HOUSE BILL 23, WHICH IS A THIRD PARTY INSPECTION BILL. THIS ONE WAS SPECIFICALLY CONCERNING BECAUSE

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THERE'S NO REQUIREMENTS FOR THE INSPECTOR. THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME STANDARDS THAT WE DO AS A CITY, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE US WITH A COPY OF THAT INSPECTION. SO THE CITY STILL HOLDS THAT LIABILITY. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEIR OFFICE ON THAT. IT'S STILL PENDING. SO WE CAN WORK ON A COMMITTEE, SUBSTITUTE WITH THEM. SENATE BILL 24 IS BEING HEARD THIS WEEK IN COMMITTEE, AND WE'RE WORKING ON WRITTEN COMMENTS AS WELL AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR THAT ONE. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT SENATE BILL 2118 AND SENATE BILL 1557, AS WELL AS THEIR HOUSE COMPANION. SO I WON'T TOUCH ON THOSE TOO MUCH. BUT HERE THEY ARE. AND WE HAVE ALSO WORKED ON WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR SENATE BILL 878, WHICH WAS HEARD TODAY IN SENATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT REALLY AIMS AT RESTRUCTURING CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENTS, AND NOT IN A GREAT WAY. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR ON THAT ONE AS WELL. A LITTLE UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES. OUR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ZONE BILLS HAVE BOTH BEEN FILED. RHETTA BOWERS AND NATHAN JOHNSON ARE CARRYING THOSE FOR US. WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THEM REFERRED OUT TO A COMMITTEE, AND THEN WE HAVE A QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECT BILL THAT RHETTA BOWERS AND SENATOR WEST ARE CARRYING FOR US, WHICH WOULD ESSENTIALLY ALLOW US TO ACCESS THE STATE PORTION OF THE HOT TAX FOR THAT FUND. DURING THE COMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY SUPPORTING A RESOLUTION WHERE YOU GUYS WOULD SAY, YES, WE LOVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD LOVE THIS QUALIFIED HOTEL PROJECT. I PRESENTED A DRAFT RESOLUTION FOR CONSIDERATION. SO WHAT I'M ASKING HERE TODAY IS FOR A CONSENT TO MOVE THAT ON TO OUR NEXT REGULAR AGENDA. MAYOR COUNCILOR WILLIAMS, REGARDING THE RESOLUTION, THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED THE ADOPTION OF THAT RESOLUTION BY THE FULL COUNCIL. THANK YOU. OKAY. THESE RESOLUTIONS ARE CUSTOMARY WHEN THE BILL IS SET FOR A HEARING. USUALLY SENATORS OR REPRESENTATIVES WILL SAY, WELL, IS YOUR COUNCIL SUPPORTIVE? AND THIS IS JUST A REALLY QUICK AND EASY WAY TO SHOW THAT SUPPORT.

I'M SORRY, DO WE? I WAS LIKE, ARE WE DONE? THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. I WAS LIKE, I SEE ZERO EIGHT OF ZERO NINE NOW. SO ALL RIGHT, SORRY. IT WAS WRITING. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE NO ONE IN THE QUEUE. THE MOST IMMEDIATE QUESTION IS DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON ON CARRYING THE RESOLUTION? THAT WOULD BE UNANIMOUS. UNANIMOUS? IT'S GETTING TO BE A RARITY AROUND HERE. YOU SHOULD ENJOY IT. I'LL TAKE MY WINS AS I CAN. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR UPDATES. WE YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SMALLER COMMITTEE MEETING EARLIER, A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING. SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES.

IF THERE'S IF ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON BILLS, I'M HAPPY TO ELABORATE MORE. AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON WITH STRESS SHORT TERM RENTALS? THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT HAVE BEEN FILED. WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE THAT NONE HAVE MADE IT TO THE FLOOR YET. SO THOSE ARE THE ONES WE'RE WATCHING. THERE'S BEEN SOME MONEY TO USE THAT HAVE BEEN SET ON THE INTENT CALENDAR, BUT NOT STARS YET, SO WE'RE KEEPING AN E EYE OUT. SPEAKING F ADS, I SAW 1 IN 1 OF THE BILLS THAT YOU HAD UP THERE AND IT ALSO SAID MINIMUM MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS THAT FOR A AN ENTIRE RESIDENCE OR FOR THE ADUS THEMSELVES? THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ADUS THEMSELVES. OKAY, THEY'RE THEY'RE PUSHING THESE BILLS BASED ON. THE HOPE THAT IT WILL ASSIST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO IT'S LIKE PRO TINY HOUSE. YES. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THIS LIMITS OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE THOSE. RIGHT. MOST OF THESE DO. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THANKS. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO BACK TO BACK TO AUSTIN. YES. ALL RIGHT I SEE NOTHING. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE UPDATES AND THE CONTINUED WORK AND SAFE TRAVELS OFF THE TABLE. MOVING

[7. Annual Review of Homestead and Senior Tax Exemptions Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Margaret Lucht, Chair of the Administrative Services Committee, along with staff, will present options recommended at the February 27, 2025 Administrative Services Committee Meeting.]

MOVING BACK TO ITEM SEVEN, ANNUAL REVIEW OF HOMESTEAD AND SENIOR TAX EXEMPTIONS. DEPUTY

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MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU WANT TO OPEN THIS UP? SURE. SO MATT'S GOING TO GO OVER THE NUMBERS WITH YOU.

AND THEN I'LL KIND OF GIVE A SYNOPSIS AFTERWARDS. WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS TO REPORT OUT, BUT PHIL IS OUT OF TOWN, SO I WANTED TO SAVE SOME OF THOSE ITEMS FOR WHEN HE'S HERE. SO WHEN HE GETS BACK AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR AT OUR NEXT WORK SESSION, WILL PROBABLY BE REPORTING THOSE OUT AND OFF TO MR. WATSON. GOOD EVENING. SO THE ASC HAS BEEN SPENDING THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS REVIEWING THE HOMESTEAD AND SENIOR EXEMPTIONS. THEY DO THAT ANNUALLY. AFTER THE 2000 PASSAGE OF THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM. AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL INCREASED THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FROM 8% TO 10%, AND THEN THE SENIOR EXEMPTION FROM 51,000 TO 56,000. AND AFTER DOING THAT, THE REQUEST WAS FOR THAT COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE HOMESTEAD AND SENIOR EXEMPTION ANNUALLY TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL RELIEF THAT MAY NEED TO OCCUR. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING THROUGH THAT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO I WANTED TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THE PRESENTATION, DESCRIBE THE OPTION THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY BY THE COMMITTEE, AND ALSO SHOW SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL SCENARIOS THAT THEY LOOKED AT. TO START THE FAMOUS DEBT DONUT. WE HAVE ABOUT $1.1 BILLION OF CIP OR CAPITAL OR DEBT CAPACITY CURRENTLY UNDER OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE, AND COUNCIL HAS SPENT REALLY THE LAST YEAR OF IDENTIFYING LONG TERM NEEDS AND INITIATIVES AND TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO FUND THOSE. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, ABOUT 4 MILLION OF THE DEBT DONUT IS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED LAST MONTH. THERE'S $130 MILLION THAT'S SET ASIDE FOR THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS GIVEN BACK TO THE EMPLOYEES ON THEIR TMRS THE 50% COLA, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOND PROGRAM THAT WILL BE OUT ON THE STREETS IN MAY, WAS ABOUT 360 MILLION. WE HAVE ABOUT 70 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE CITY. BUT REALLY, THE ONE LITTLE PIECE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MOST IS THE LITTLE 10 MILLION. SO OF THAT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW, CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT PROGRAMED ABOUT $10 MILLION OF CAPACITY, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT $762,000 OF DEBT SERVICE REVENUE FOR ANY FUTURE INITIATIVES. SO THE SOLUTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE IS TO OFFER THAT BACK TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE FORM OF A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INCREASE AND A SENIOR EXEMPTION INCREASE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN 2019 WITH WITH THE PASSAGE OF ANOTHER BOND PROGRAM PROVIDING ALSO SOME RELIEF TO THE RESIDENTS. QUICKLY, I WANTED TO GO OVER JUST SOME COMPARISONS TO THE OTHER METROPLEX CITIES ON BOTH SENIORS AND HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S REALLY KIND OF TWO PATHS CITIES TAKE WHEN THEY LOOK AT THEIR SENIORS AND HOMESTEADS.

MANY CITIES LOOK TO GO ALL IN ON THE SENIOR EXEMPTION. SO IF YOU LOOK AT, SAY, MESQUITE, ROWLETT, SAXY AND RICHARDSON, YOU CAN SEE THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS ARE FAIRLY SMALL, MEANING THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH GOING ALL IN ON EVERYONE OVER THE AGE OF 65. GARLAND HISTORICALLY HAS TAKEN THE PATH OF TRYING TO PROVIDE RELIEF FOR BOTH HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION RESIDENTS AND SENIORS.

AND OF COURSE, SENIORS DO GET TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF A HOMESTEAD AS WELL. BUT THE HOMESTEAD PROVIDES RELIEF FOR THOSE THAT ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 65. SO CURRENTLY, AGAIN, GARLAND IS AT 56,010%. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE AVERAGE ACROSS ALL THE OTHER OTHER CITIES IS ABOUT 70 70,000 FOR SENIORS AND IS AT 11% FOR HOMESTEAD. BUT I ALSO PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. YOU HEAR ME TALK ABOUT GARLAND'S CHALLENGE A LOT WITH OUR OUR SMALLER LOTS, SMALLER HOME SIZES, OLDER HOMES, THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES IN THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE IT GENERATES IS BELOW THAT OF THE METROPLEX COMPARISONS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE TAXABLE VALUE FOR THESE SAME CITIES IS ABOUT 285,000. HERE IN GARLAND IT'S ABOUT 194 OR 91,000 BELOW. AND FOR THE AVERAGE, AND THAT'S FOR THE SENIOR AND FOR AN AVERAGE OF UNDER 65 HOMEOWNER, IT'S 252 617, WHILE THE METROPLEX IS ROUGHLY AROUND 360,000, WHICH EQUATES TO AN AVERAGE TAX BILL IN THE METROPLEX OF ABOUT 1652 FOR A SENIOR. AND GARLAND IS AT ONE, THREE, FOUR, TWO OR ABOUT

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310 BELOW, AND THE SAME ON THE HOMESTEAD. THE METROPLEX IS 2078, AND GARLAND IS AT 1742, WHICH IS ABOUT $336 BELOW. ONE THING THAT ISN'T TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THESE CHARTS IS MEDIAN HOME INCOME. GARLAND IS ON THE LOWER SPECTRUM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE, BUT JUST LOOKING AT TAX BILLS, WE ARE BELOW AVERAGE ON COMPARED TO THE OTHER METROPLEX CITIES. SO REALLY THE BIGGEST FACTOR THAT IMPACTS BOTH THAT DEBT DONUT AND MAKING FUTURE DECISIONS ON HOMESTEAD AND SENIORS COMES INTO OUR LONG TERM PROPERTY TAX GROWTH. YOU CAN SEE FROM 2023 TO 25 SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES IN OUR PROPERTY VALUES, 16.4% IN 23, 12.7 IN 24 AND 11.2 AND 25. THE RED LINE REPRESENTS THE 20 YEAR AVERAGE GROWTH AND IT'S AT 5.3%, WHICH IS GREATLY SKEWED BY THESE LAST THREE YEARS. YOU CAN SEE OUR LONG TERM PROJECTIONS ARE SHOWING MUCH LESS. AND THAT'S REALLY TWOFOLD. ONE, YOU ALL KNOW I'M ALWAYS CONSERVATIVE. AND SECOND IS WE ARE SEEING A SLOWDOWN IN THE GROWTH IN OUR PROPERTY VALUES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT, THREE YEARS AGO, WE WERE SEEING 20% INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR, THAT RIGHT NOW AS OF JANUARY, IS ACTUALLY IN A NEGATIVE PRESENT POSITION, MEANING THE GROWTH IS DROPPING BY ABOUT 2%. SO WE WANT TO BE CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE THERE'S THOSE TWO THINGS THAT ARE PLAYING PLAYING INTO THIS ONE, WE ARE ISSUING DEBT FOR THE MOST PART WHEN IT COMES TO OUR LONG TERM DEBT DONUT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO PAY THAT BACK. AND TWO, THERE APPEARS TO BE A SLOWDOWN IN THE HOUSING VALUES IN THE METROPLEX AND GARLAND SPECIFICALLY. SO WE WANT TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN LOOKING INTO OUR LONG TERM PROJECTIONS. THIS IS THE OPTION THAT ULTIMATELY THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED TO BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL. AND THIS IS AGAIN GOING BACK TO THAT $10 MILLION OF CAPACITY, OR ABOUT $762,000 OF REVENUE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE PROGRAMED. THIS WILL BASICALLY GIVE THAT BACK TO THE RESIDENTS. AND THIS PATH, AGAIN, IS TO STAY ON THE HISTORICAL PATH OF GIVING SOME TO BOTH HOMESTEAD, SOME TO SENIORS. SO THE OPTION IS TO PROVIDE A 1% INCREASE TO THE HOMESTEAD. SO IT WOULD MOVE FROM 10% TO 11%. AND ON SENIORS, A $4,000 INCREASE, WHICH WOULD MOVE IT FROM 56,000 TO 60,000. WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU HERE IS I FOCUSED IN ON THE $200,000 HOME VALUE. IF THIS WAS PUT INTO PLACE IN LAST YEAR'S CERTIFIED VALUES, THE AVERAGE SENIOR WOULD HAVE SAW ABOUT A 5% REDUCTION IN THEIR TAX BILL. THE IMPACT OF THOSE BELOW 65 WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT A 1%. AND AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE THE SENIORS GETTING BOTH THE IMPACT OF THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND THE SENIOR INCREASE, WHILE THE THOSE THAT ARE BELOW 65 ARE JUST SEEING THAT EXTRA 1%. BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE THAT WHAT THIS WILL DO IS THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND PROPERTIES THAT ARE THAT ARE RENTAL PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT QUALIFY FOR A HOMESTEAD, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BASED OFF OF HOW SB TWO WORKS, THE MACRO PORTION, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION PORTION OF THE TAX RATE WILL SHIFT TO STILL GIVE US THE 3.5% INCREASE PER YEAR. AND WHEN IT DOES THAT, IT'S GOING TO PUSH THE TAX RATE UP JUST SLIGHTLY IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE 3.5% TO US. SO WHAT THAT WILL MEAN IS THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THOSE THAT DON'T QUALIFY FOR THESE EXEMPTIONS BECAUSE THE TAX RATE WENT UP SLIGHTLY. SO YOU CAN SEE FOR A RENTAL PROPERTY, $200,000, ABOUT A $4 INCREASE WOULD HAVE BEEN SEEN LAST YEAR. AND THEN THE IMPACT OF COMMERCIAL AND I PUT THESE IN JUST ROUND MILLIONS FOR EVERY MILLION DOLLARS. IT'S ABOUT A $21 INCREASE BY IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS PLAN AS PRESENTED. THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY INTERESTED IN LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WHICH WHICH IS REALLY THE REASON WHY THEY LOOK AT THIS ANNUALLY. BUT LOOKING AT JUST SOME GRADUAL INCREASES OVER TIME, WHAT WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE. SO ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS WAS TO LOOK AT TRYING TO GET TO THE SENIOR EXEMPTION TO 80,000 BY THE YEAR 2030. AND THESE

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ASSUMPTIONS, I BASICALLY LOOK TO JUST INCREASE IT $4,800 A YEAR TO MEET THAT GOAL BY 2030. AND UNDER THIS, THE SCENARIO, THAT SCENARIO WOULD PROVIDE ABOUT AN 8% OR $135 SAVINGS OVER FIVE YEARS TO SENIORS. THE SCENARIO WILL INCREASE THE HOMEOWNER'S TAX BILL BY ABOUT 1%. AND AGAIN, THAT THIS IS AN ALL IN ON SENIORS. BUT BECAUSE OF THE SHIFT IN THE TAX RATE, EVERYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 65 WOULD SEE ROUGHLY A $13 INCREASE IN THE TAX BILL TO MAKE UP THAT GAP.

HOWEVER, UNDER THIS PLAN AND UNDER OUR CURRENT PROJECTIONS FOR CIP, THE DEBT DONUT, THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF ABOUT $25 MILLION OUT OF THE CI, OR OUT OF ANY OF THE OTHER FUTURE INITIATIVES. IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORK. THE OTHER GRADUAL INCREASE THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO LOOK AT WAS WHAT IF WE DID IT ON THE OPPOSITE ON THE HOMESTEAD, AND WE LOOKED TO INCREASE IT TO 15% BY 2030? HERE I JUST BASICALLY DID 1% PER YEAR. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SAVINGS FOR A SENIOR WOULD BE ABOUT 5% OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, OR $78. AND THE SAME WOULD BE FOR THOSE UNDER THE AGE OF 65, 5%, OR ROUGHLY $97 IN SAVINGS. HOWEVER, THIS PLAN WOULD ALSO REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF $35 MILLION OUT OF THE CIP IN ORDER TO MAKE UP THE GAP IN LOST REVENUE. THE FINAL OPTION WAS TO TRY TO GIVE RELIEF TO BOTH. SO, YOU KNOW, HYPOTHETICALLY INCREASING THE HOMESTEAD TO 15% AND THE SENIOR EXEMPTION TO 80,000. UNDER THIS PLAN, THE SENIORS WOULD SEE ABOUT $207 IN SAVINGS, OR A 12%. SO STARTING TO GET INTO SOME DECENT RELIEF.

AND THEN ON THE UNDER AGE 65, IT'S STILL ABOUT 4% OR $84. HOWEVER, THIS PLAN WOULD REQUIRE $61 MILLION OF REMOVAL OUT OF THE CIP DUE TO THE LOST DEBT SERVICE, SO IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT AT THAT TIME TO MAKE ALL THESE FUTURE INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD PROGRAM CONTINUE ON. AND REALLY, THAT WAS THE BULK OF THE DISCUSSION. AND AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION, I'LL LET COUNCILWOMAN LUCHT OR MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LOOK ELABORATE ON THAT. YES. SO COUNCIL, THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE DOES MOVE TO GO. WILL YOU SHOW THEM THE SLIDE THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD. SO WE DID WE DO RECOMMEND A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. EXEMPTION OF WITH AN INCREASE OF 1%. AND THE SENIOR EXEMPTION INCREASED BY $4,000. AGAIN, THE SENIORS WILL BE ABLE TO KIND OF DOUBLE DIP FROM THOSE NUMBERS. AND WE'LL SEE A DOUBLE INCREASE IN THEIR EXEMPTIONS. WE REALLY WANTED TO DO MORE, ESPECIALLY THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED AT THE INCREMENTAL INCREASES OVER TIME. THE NUMBERS JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ACTUALLY ASSIGN A PARTICULAR VALUE. EVERY SINGLE YEAR. WE EVALUATE THESE EVERY YEAR IN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. SO WE DECIDED TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. AND HOPEFULLY YEAR AFTER YEAR WE WILL FIND FIND A WAY TO INCREASE THOSE NUMBERS FOR SENIORS AND HOMESTEADERS IN GARLAND. EXCUSE ME. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS? MAYOR MATT, I KNOW YOU'VE EXPLAINED IT BEFORE TO US TO SHIFT. HOW DOES HOW DOES THIS SHIFT AFFECT SMALL BUSINESSES? WELL, I GUESS WE WOULD NEED TO DEFINEMALL BUSINESSES. I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM THE MILLION DOLLAR VALUE. IT'S ABOUT A 21. HOW MUCH DOES THIS SHIFT AFFECTS BUSINESSES? OKAY.

CLASSIFY THEM AS BUSINESSES PERIOD. SURE. I MEAN FOR EVERY MILLION DOLLARS OF VALUE THEY HAVE, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE ROUGHLY A $21 INCREASE IN THE TAX BILL. BUT I WILL SAY THAT MOST BUSINESSES WILL MORE THAN LIKELY PASS THAT ON TO CONSUMERS AND WON'T ACTUALLY SEE AN IMPACT TO THEMSELVES. AND IT IS RELATIVELY MINOR, BUT IT IS THERE. SO IT IS SOMETHING COUNCIL NEEDS TO WEIGH IN. OKAY. AND WHEN AND IF WE IF WE GO WITH THIS WHEN WILL THEY SEE THAT THAT WHEN WILL THAT BE NOTICEABLE TO BUSINESSES THAT WILL BE NOTICED ON NEXT YEAR'S TAX. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE TAX YEAR 2024. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE APPRAISALS OF 25. SO WHEN THEY DO GET THEIR ESTIMATES IN OCTOBER, IT WILL BE IN THAT. SO UNLESS YOUR IS YOUR OPINION THAT THEY WILL SIMPLY DO A PASS THROUGH, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD SIMPLY DO A PASS THROUGH. OR IF

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THEY HAVE GOOD ACCOUNTANTS, FIND OTHER WAYS TO. OKAY OKAY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. OH THERE WE GO. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? HANG ON.

SOMEBODY ACTING LIKE THEY WANT TO PUSH THE BUTTON. COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I'M ON THE COMMITTEE AS WELL. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS PLAN, WHERE WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, IT HELPS ALL OF GARLAND RESIDENTS, RATHER THAN JUST FOCUSING ON FOCUSING ON A SPECIFIC GROUP AND HAVING THAT TAX BURDEN SHIFT TO ANOTHER GROUP. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY DONE. YOU'VE SEEN THAT WE KIND OF GO ONE AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER. RICHARDSON GOES ALL IN ON SENIORS WHEN THEY HAVE A HUGE IT WAS BACK A SLIDE. BUT YOU CAN SEE THEY JUST HAVE A $145,000 SENIOR EXEMPTION. AND MY GOOD FRIEND WHO LIVES IN RICHARDSON PAYS THE FULL AND THE BURDEN OF THAT TO SUPPORT THE SENIORS IN RICHARDSON. SO I THINK IT'S A FAIR PLAN THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH. I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO INCREASE IT AND FIND WAYS TO INCREASE THAT GOING FORWARD. I THINK THAT WAS A BIG THING TO REITERATE, COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE IS CONTINUALLY EVALUATING EVERY YEAR AND CONTINUING TO GIVE RELIEF. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY GOOD. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THAT GROWTH RATE CHART, WHERE IN 2026 YOU BASICALLY SEE THE VALUES DROPPING. SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE A FIXED NUMBER AND GO BY THAT BY 2030. WE WANT IT TO BE AT THIS RATE AND AT THIS EXEMPTION. SO ALL OF THOSE FACTORS WERE HEAVILY CONSIDERED. AND SO WE WENT THROUGH IT THOROUGHLY OVER SEVERAL MEETINGS. AND I'M GLAD THAT WE ACTUALLY PUT IN A LOT OF TIME. AND STAFF PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AS WELL. SO THANK YOU, MR. WATSON. ANY TIME. WHAT I DO. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT COUNCIL, THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE MOVING FORWARD IN FAVOR OF OPTION ONE MOVING FORWARD. THAT WOULD BE UNANIMOUS. AND I JUST DID SOME QUICK MATH AND I'LL BE SEEING ACCORDING TO THIS IN 2032. SO Y'ALL GOT SOME WORK TO DO. BUT I'M GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER ALL THE TIME. SO ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS OUR LAST VERBAL BRIEFING. NEXT ITEM UP IS ANNOUNCED FUTURE

[ ANNOUNCE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS A Councilmember, with a second by another member or the Mayor alone, may ask that an item be placed on a future agenda of the City Council or of a committee of the City Council. No substantive discussion of that item will take place at this time. ]

AGENDA ITEMS. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. YES, SIR. I WOULD LIKE THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE TO REVIEW OUR PROCESS FOR CONSIDERING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. OKAY.

AND COUNSELOR DUTTON IS A SECOND ON THAT. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE THREE? IT WOULD THAT PRETTY MUCH. THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE. THANK YOU. HANG ON. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? COUNSELOR WILLIAMS. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO FOR. OUR PARKING CZAR.

THEY WERE. I KNOW THEY WERE. HE SAID WHEN HE CAME BACK, THEY WERE GOING TO SORT OF SET UP TARGET AREAS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO. I'D LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE ON ON HOW THAT PROGRAM IS GOING. JUDD, YOU'RE LOOKING YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE CREATING INSTEAD OF DOING BROAD PARKING ENFORCEMENT, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO SET UP THESE SORT OF I DON'T I'M NOT SURE WHAT THOSE TARGET AREAS WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT BUT BUT HOW IS THAT COMING IS I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. MR. CITY ATTORNEY CAN CAN HE'S MAYBE MR. ATTORNEY OVER THERE CAN CAN CLARIFY THAT. YEAH. THEY FALL UNDER ME SO I'LL HAVE THE PART OF THE CZAR COME IN. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM IS THE SECOND.

THAT IS HOW IT'S COMING. ALL RIGHT? ANYTHING ELSE? FUTURE AGENDA. SEEING NONE, WE WILL

[ EXECUTIVE SESSION]

MOVE ON. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR IF SOMETHING COMES UP AFTER WE ADJOURN COUNCIL. AT THIS POINT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A RECESS SINCE WE JUST DID. SO EVERYBODY CAN HOLD. WE'LL CLEAR THE ROOM OF WHOEVER. SO ITEM NINE, EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS FIVE, FIVE, 1.07155, 1.072 AND 551.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ONE. CERTAIN COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN

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THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT OF THE CITY AND WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS, INCLUDING THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CONVEYANCE OF REAL PROPERTY AND ATTORNEY CLIENT DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO SAME. EXCUSE ME. AND TWO POTENTIAL OFFER BY THE CITY OF FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVES TO A BUSINESS PROSPECT AND THE RECEIPT OF COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM THE SAME BUSINESS PROSPECT WHICH THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATE WITHIN THE CITY. IN THE AREA OF INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 635 AND SHILOH ROAD, AND IN THE AREA OF PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND HOLFORD ROAD, AND WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS AND ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO SAME.

AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND COUNCIL. PLEASE HOLD YOUR

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