* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. AND WELCOME TO THE MARCH 18TH, 2025 [00:00:02] MEETING OF THE [ NOTICE OF MEETING CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE & MOBILITY COMMITTEE Work Session Room of City Hall William E. Dollar Municipal Building 200 N. Fifth Street Garland, Texas MARCH 18, 2025 5:00 PM] TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE. I'M CHRIS OTT, THE CHAIRMAN, AND WITH ME I HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS CARISSA DUTTON, AND COUNCIL MEMBER DYLAN HEDRICK. UH, THE FIRST ITEM OF OUR AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 10TH, 2024 MEETING. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? UM, MOTION TO APPROVE. AND A SECOND. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON AND A AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK THE MOTION. OH, AT THE VOTE. ALL APPEAR . ALRIGHT. MOTION IS APPROVED. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC, OF COURSE. UH, THEY'RE ALWAYS WELCOME. UM, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ITEM THREE A NO PARKING ZONE NAME AND FOREST AND MANSIONS DRIVE SCOPING DISCUSSION. THIS IS A TOPIC THAT BEGAN AT THE, UH, FEBRUARY 17TH, 2025, UH, CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. A MOTION BY MYSELF AND, UH, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK TO ASSIGN THE TOPIC FOR ANALYZING THIS, UH, FOR, UM, TO THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE. UM, I GUESS I BROUGHT THIS UP, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A FUTURE, UH, SOCCER COMPLEX. IT'S COMING FOR AT HOLFORD AND, UH, GEORGE BUSH. AND, UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, THAT WOULD BE NAMAN FOREST BOULEVARD WILL EVENTUALLY HEAD THROUGH AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A ROUNDABOUT. AND IF WE HAVE THAT, THAT THAT CONTINUES ON ACROSS, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT PARK IN THE STREETS OVER THERE. WHAT WOULD BE OUR PLAN FOR THAT? SO I, I MEAN, WE'VE ALWAYS EXPECTED NAME AND FOREST, UH, TO GO THROUGH. UM, AND IT'S, LET ME SEE IF THERE, SO YEAH, IT WOULD COME THROUGH AND CONNECT SOMEWHERE ABOUT RIGHT HERE. YEAH. SO THIS WOULD COME THROUGH LIKE THAT. SO, YEAH. AND WE EXPECT AT THAT POINT, UM, AND I HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE'S BEEN PEOPLE PARKING. WE, WE GET, WE DO GET A LOT OF, UH, WE'VE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES ABOUT AROUND MANSIONS. I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT IN PARTICULAR IS GOING ON THERE, BUT WE'VE REC RESTRICTED SOME PARKING THERE ALREADY. UM, IN OUR THOUGHT, IT, IT REALLY WAS. IT'S LIKE UNTIL, UNTIL THIS GOES THROUGH, IT'S NOT REALLY A PROBLEM 'CAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC. BUT AT THAT, WHEN, WHENEVER THAT DOES GO THROUGH, WE WOULD NEED TO RESTRICT THE PARKING ALONG THAT STREET TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH LANES ARE CLEAR. OKAY. SO EVENTUALLY THE PLAN IS TO ALLOW THAT TO BE A THOROUGHFARE JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, LIKE BUCKINGHAM ROAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOT QUITE LIKE BUCKINGHAM, BUT YEAH. . YEAH. BUT YEAH, FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY, THAT'S WHAT IT'S BUILT AS. AND, AND WHEN IT GOES THROUGH, IT SHOULD CARRY A, A FAIR AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. I MEAN, IT DOES STOP HERE AT CAMPBELL, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S WHAT ANOTHER OTHER STATES THAT DON'T HAVE FRONT ROAD, YOU'D CALL IT A BACKER ROAD. IT'S, IT, IT'D BE THE PARALLEL ROADWAY TO THE TOLLWAY OR THE FREEWAY, BUT, UM, RIGHT. SO IT'S, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD WAY. AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY HEAVILY USED. UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DOWN FURTHER, FURTHER TO THE EAST. BUT, UH OH, YEAH. YEAH. WHEN, WHEN THAT, THAT WAS, I MEAN, JUST, JUST OUR THOUGHT WAS, MY THOUGHT WAS, YOU KNOW, I KNEW AT SOME POINT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, RESTRICT PARKING WHEN THAT, WHEN THAT CONNECTS, I KNOW THAT THE GENESIS OF THAT IS THE, THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE THERE, THEY DON'T, THEY, IF YOU WANT COVERED PARKING OR TO PARK IN, IN A GARAGE, THEY CHARGE EXTRA RENT. MM-HMM . AND SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT JUST, WELL, I WON'T PAY FOR THAT. I'LL JUST PARK ON THE STREETS. YEAH. WELL, AND IT'S, AND IT'S, I'M SURE IT'S MORE CONVENIENT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE TO, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO WHERE YOUR APARTMENT IS. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE PARK THERE. OKAY. SO EVENTUALLY THAT WILL BECOME RESTRICTED. RIGHT. OKAY. I MEAN, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, I CONSIDERED BANNING PARKING, YOU KNOW, NOW, BUT I, IT, I'M NOT SURE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO DO IT UNTIL THERE'S A REASON FOR IT, SO, RIGHT. YEP. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A THROUGH STREET YET. YEAH. OKAY. ANY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE. I'M CONTENT WAITING UNTIL IT'S THE PROJECT'S COMPLETE. I KNOW THAT'LL PROBABLY STILL BE A COUPLE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. YEP. AND THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE, IS THAT, DOES IT HAVE A CREEK CROSSING FOR THAT? FOR THAT OR FOR THE RED? IT'S KIND OF A DRAW. UM, IS DRAW THE PROPER DRAW , IS THAT A TECHNICAL TERM? [00:05:01] , THAT'S PROBABLY A FARM TERM FROM MY FARM DAYS, BUT THAT'S, YEAH, THERE'S KIND OF A, A, A, I'D CALL IT A DRAW THAT KIND OF GOES BACK TOWARDS THE, THE, UH, ONE 90 THERE, BUT RIGHT. I KNOW THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S CULVERTS THAT WOULD, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BRIDGE. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT'S PRETTY EASY CROSSING THEN. I DUNNO IF IT'S EASY, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A BRIDGE, SO IT'S NOT AS EXPENSIVE. YES. THAT'S IMPORTANT. YEAH. UM, I HAVE A ONE JUST QUICK QUESTION. SURE. UM, SO ONE OF MY PET PEEVES ABOUT THE CITY IS THAT WE ARE REACTIVE BY NATURE INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE. UM, SO WOULD THERE BE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START RESTRICTING TRAFFIC PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT JUST SO THAT PEOPLE START GETTING USED TO IT BEFORE IT BECOMES A SITUATION? MAYBE IN, MAYBE WHEN WE START THE CONSTRAINT PARKING, LIKE WHEN WE START THE CONSTRUCTION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. I MEAN, JUST 'CAUSE WE DON'T, I, I WOULD HATE TO WAIT UNTIL IT BECOMES A PROBLEM AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYONE'S LIKE, OH, WELL WHY CAN'T I DO THIS? I'VE DONE THIS. OH NO. I MEAN, I, WE WOULD RESTRICT IT BEFORE IT BECAME A PROBLEM. I MEAN, WHEN, WHEN WE, I MEAN EITHER IN CONJUNCTION WITH OPENING THE ROAD OR MAYBE A LITTLE BEFORE WE COULD DO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THAT. WE WOULDN'T WAIT TILL, YOU KNOW, THE DAY IT OPENED, NOT WAIT AND SEE IF IT'S A PROBLEM. RIGHT. RIGHT. WE, WE'LL, WE'LL RESTRICT THE PARKING WHEN, I MEAN, WE KNOW, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT WHEN WE OPEN THE ROAD. AWESOME. COOL. I'M, I AM CONTENT WITH THAT FOR SURE. AWESOME. ALRIGHT, WELL THEN SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL BE WAITING TO, UH, FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING WITH THAT, UM, ITEM THREE B ALONG THAT SAME LINE, WE HAVE, UH, NO PARKING ZONE, UM, STADIUM DRIVE NEAR, UH, NEAR GENERAL DYNAMICS SCOPING DISCUSSION. THIS WAS ALSO FROM THE FEBRUARY 17TH 25, UH, WORK SESSION. I MADE THE MOTION AND COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK SECONDED IT, BUT, UM, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT WAS CLOSED, BUT NOW IT'S OPEN FIFTH STREET. FIFTH STREET. RIGHT. EXACTLY. UH, THAT SECTION YOU CANNOT UNDER ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. RIGHT. DRIVE CONTINU CONTINUOUSLY ON EITHER THE RIGHT LANE OR ON, UH, ON THE RIGHT LANE. NORTH OR SOUTHBOUND. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY THAT'S PARKED THERE, A MINIMUM OF FIVE AND UP TO 17 CARS AND INCLUDING AN 18 WHEELER AND A AND, UH, SO I WAS, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED WHERE IT WAS EXACTLY FURTHER SOUTH, FURTHER SOUTHBOUND. IT WAS ALONG FROM TRAVIS SOUTH THERE. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON FIFTH STREET? OH YEAH, FIFTH STREET ITSELF. OH, OKAY. BECAUSE YOU SAID STADIUM DRIVE, WHICH WAS UP HERE. YEAH, IT'S AN ERROR IN THE, UH, IN THE POSTING, BUT YES, IT'S, UM, OKAY. FIFTH STREET ITSELF, THIS IS THE PART THAT'S OPEN NOW. YEP. ARE YOU TALKING, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ALONG THIS OR ALONG THIS? GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH. UM, STARTING RIGHT AFTER THAT, WHAT IT SAYS TO BE RANGE, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY RANGE THAT'S OWNED BY, THAT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. BUT YOU GO RIGHT SOUTH OF COOPER, UH, CONCRETE, WHICH IS THERE, YOU START HAVING, UH, VEHICLES PARKING ON BOTH SIDES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WHERE YOU GET TO RIGHT PAST WHERE IT SAYS, UH OH. WHERE IT SAYS EIGHT MOTORSPORT IS BASICALLY WHERE IT ENDS ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF, UH, FIFTH STREET ON THE EAST SIDE. IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN FROM, UH, FROM RIGHT SOUTH OF COOPER CONCRETE DOWN TO, UH, OH TWO THREE BUILDINGS DOWN. I COUNTED ON THE WAY OVER HERE, THERE'S 17 CARS PARKED IN THE STREET. OKAY. AND THERE ARE POSTED NO PARKING, UH, SIGNS THAT ARE IN, UH, DISREPAIR AND NOBODY BELIEVES IT, OBVIOUSLY. OKAY. SO IT'S ALREADY NO PARKING? YES. OKAY. UM, WELL WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY REFRESH THE SIGNS AND THEN, I MEAN, WE HAVE THE MARSHALS JUST TO GO DO SOME ENFORCEMENT SO THE PEOPLE WILL PANIC. I KNOW THEY WILL BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S BODY SHOPS THAT AFTER PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT IN THE STREET AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I KNOW THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM TO, TO WORRY ABOUT, BUT IT'S, UM, IT'S A, WELL ARE THEY LEAVING CARS FOR MULTIPLE DAYS OR IS OH, YES. OKAY. THEY WILL. THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A CODE VIOLATION TOO, SO. YEP. MOST OF IT, MOST OF IT IS PEOPLE THAT IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S 10 TO 10 TO 15 CARS THAT ARE DAILY. EITHER THE WORKERS IN THE AREA OR PEOPLE ARE PULLING PROJECTS OUT OF THEIR BAYS OVER THERE. UM, AND IT IS MORE ON THE EAST SIDE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW, IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT MORE THERE [00:10:01] YOU GO ALL ALONG THROUGH THERE. ALL ALONG THAT SIDE. YEAH. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE STREET. RIGHT. AND IT'S ON THE STREET. YEAH. YOU CANNOT DRIVE IN THE LANES ON EITHER SIDE. YEAH. 'CAUSE IT'S STRIPED AS A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED STREET. SO THERE, THERE IT IS JUST A SINGLE LANE OF CARS. RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT YES. ONE LANE PARKED. OKAY. YEP. AND CHAIRMAN, WHAT DISTRICT IS THIS IN? THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO BE A DISTRICT EIGHT. GOOD. PLEASE SEND YOUR, YOUR COMPLAINTS THERE TO ANYONE WHO GETS A PARKING TICKET. YEP. . YES. WELL, WE PUT IN, IF WE, IF WE REFRESH THE SIGNS, MAYBE THAT'LL, OR TO A MIND OF INCENTIVIZE IT TO OR MAKE THEM YES, AGREED. IT'D BE HARDER FOR THEM TO COMPLAIN AT LEAST. SO YEAH, I WOULD THINK THAT, UH, REFRESHING THE SIGNS WOULD BE THE FIRST THING TO DO. AND YOU'RE SAYING FROM, UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING, I, I GUESS REALLY FROM, I GUESS HERE WHERE THE, WHERE IT WAS BLOCKED OFF RIGHT SOUTH TO YEAH. SOMEWHERE IN HERE. YES. YEAH. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MASONIC LODGE OR, OR, UM, WHAT IT IS ON THE RIGHT, BUT THAT THERE'S NEVER ANY PARKING ISSUES OVER THERE, BUT THEY BLOCK THEIR PARKING LOTS SO PEOPLE DON'T FILL THEIR PARKING LOT WITH, UM, WITH VEHICLES. YEAH. I MEAN ALL, ALL THESE PLACES SHOULD HAVE AMPLE PARKING, SO, OH, THIS, OKAY. THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO, SO ABOUT RIGHT THERE. YEP. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. YEP. IF WE COULD JUST REFRESH THE SIGNS ON THAT AND UH, WE'LL SEE HOW IT DOES FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN HAVE THE MARSHALS GO THROUGH, I GUESS WOULD BE THE NEXT THING. YEAH. AND ONCE WE GET THE SIGNS UP, I MEAN, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, COVERING THE AREA THEN. YEP. WE'LL, UM, THE MARSHALS JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY'RE GOING PERIODICALLY IT'S YEP. IT'S THE THREATS THERE THAT THEY'LL GET A TICKET. YEP. YEAH. YEAH. THEY GET USED TO THERE WHEN THERE WAS NO, WHEN IT WASN'T A THROUGH STREET IT, YEAH. IT WAS ALMOST LIKE, UH, LIKE YOUR DRIVEWAY. MM-HMM . YOU COULD, AND I THINK THEY JUST GOT USED TO IT OVER TIME. WELL NOW PEOPLE USE IT A LOT NOW WE EVEN USE IT FOR OUR, UM, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS. THAT'S THE ROAD THAT WE USE TO DRIVE BACK AND FORTH TO GET TO SHUTTLE PEOPLE FROM THE STADIUM. YEAH. YEAH. AND I'M SURE IT WILL BE WHEN WE HAVE THE FOURTH DOWN THERE TOO. SAME THING. YEP. IT'LL BE VERY BUSY. YEP. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL, ANY UH, QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK? NO, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BUT, ALRIGHT. SORRY. UM, REPORT OUT DATE, UM, NEXT AVAILABLE. I, I, I CAN MAKE A REPORT ON IT. OKAY. SO YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING FROM STAFF? I DON'T THINK THAT WE'LL NEED TO. YEAH. RIGHT. NO PROBLEM. ALRIGHT, WELL WITH THAT BEING OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM, UM, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY BELATED ST. PATRICK'S DAY AND AN EARLY ST. JOSEPH'S DAY. MM-HMM . SO WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS AT FIVE 13, WE WERE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.