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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE JUNE 9TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION. AS IS OUR CUSTOM, WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US. WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT. NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISION, THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHT TO JOIN. AND JOIN AS A COMMISSIONER. PARISH WILL LEAD THE PRAYER AND A PLEDGE. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN ROBERTS. I KNOW THERE ARE MANY FAITH TRADITIONS, AND FEEL FREE TO GO TO THE GOD OF YOUR FAITH AND UNDERSTANDING. SO LET'S PLEASE BOW OUR HEADS AS WE PREPARE OUR HEARTS AND OUR MINDS TO PRAY. FATHER GOD, AS WE ARE UNITED IN PRAYER, WE PRAY FOR YOUR PEACE AND COMFORT THROUGHOUT THIS WORLD, AS WE OFTEN FIND OURSELVES SEEING WAYS IN WHICH WE ARE DIFFERENT, MAY WE LOOK FOR SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THOSE AROUND US. LORD, WE PRAY FOR THOSE THAT RISK THEIR LIVES EVERY DAY FOR OUR SAFETY AND PROTECTION. I ASK THAT WE UPLIFT THE BEREAVED, REQUEST HEALING FOR SICKNESS AND DISEASE, AND CONTINUE TO CONTINUE. PRAYERS FOR THEIR FOR YOUR PRESENCE, PEACE AND PROTECTION AND PROVISION. FATHER GOD, AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE THANKFUL TO BE CALLED TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER OUR CITY. MAY WE HAVE LISTENING EARS AND COMPASSIONATE HEARTS TO DO YOUR WILL THIS EVENING. IN CLOSING, WE GIVE YOU ALL HONOR, PRAISE AND GLORY AND ALL THAT WE DO. AND IN GOD OF OUR UNDERSTANDING. IN MY FAITH TRADITION, I ASK THIS ALL BY NAME. I PRAY AND ASK IT ALL.

AMEN AND AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECITING THE PLEDGE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL LIFE. WELL, GOOD EVENING AGAIN. GOOD EVENING AGAIN AND WELCOME. IF TODAY, TONIGHT'S MEETING SEEMS ANY MORE DISORGANIZED OR WONKIER THAN USUAL, IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A NEW AV SYSTEM HERE. WE'RE STILL FIGURING SOME THINGS OUT, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH US. AND WE'LL BE VOTING BY HAND TONIGHT, BECAUSE THAT SYSTEM IS PART OF THE SYSTEM ISN'T QUITE UP AND WORKING. A COUPLE MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT SOME CASES.

ABOUT SOME CASES THAT WILL MOST LIKELY BE VOTING TO POSTPONE. AND THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST CASE. Z 23 DASH 11 MAXFIELD SERVICES AS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 14TH. CASE Z 23 DASH 51 TO SERVICES AS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JUNE 23RD. OUR NEXT MEETING AND DD 20 5-02. MR. HADIR HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT MOST LIKELY TO JUNE 23RD MEETING, SO

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WE WILL START OUR AGENDA WITH THE MINUTES WHICH ARE NOT BEING POSTPONED. ITEM ONE A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE MAY 12TH, 2025 MEETING. DO I LET'S GO AHEAD AND TRY THE SYSTEM AND PUSH THE BUTTON AND I HAVE A MOTION. OH, ANOTHER THING THAT MAY BE THROWING US OFF. IT'S GOT THE COUNCIL PEOPLE'S NAMES POPPING UP HERE. SO IF I CALL YOU COMMISSIONER BASS DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. BUT COMMISSIONER DALTON, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS POSTED. ALRIGHTY. WELL, IT LOOKED LIKE COMMISSIONER PARRIS OR COMMISSIONER MOORE IS. MY DEAL SAYS TRY TO CHIME IN FOR THE SECOND. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SORRY. WILL I DO THIS? GOT IT.

ALRIGHTY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. OUR FIRST ZONING CASE IS ONE OF THE CASES I MENTIONED

[a. Hold a public hearing and consider the application of Maxshield Services, LLC/Olusoj Ojerinde, requesting approval of 1) a Planned Development with base zoning of Single-Family-7 (SF-7) for Dwelling, Single Family Detached Use on a property zoned Single-Family-7 (SF-7) and 2) a Concept Plan for a Dwelling, Single Family Detached Use. The site is located at 5702 North Jupiter Road. (District 7) (File Z 23-11)]

THAT WOULD LIKELY BE POSTPONED. ALL THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF MAX SHIELD SERVICES, LLC OR. I'M BAD ON NAMES. REQUEST APPROVAL OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH ZONING.

SINGLE FAMILY FOR DWELLING. SINGLE FAMILY. DETACHED USE ON PROPERTY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY IN A CONCEPT PLAN FOR DWELLING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED USES. SITE LOCATED AT 5702 NORTH JUPITER ROAD. AND AGAIN, THAT APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 14TH. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSION CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. LET ME. WELL, OKAY. THERE WE GO, COMMISSIONER. MISTER CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO GRANT THE APPLICANS REQUEST AND POSTPONE AS AS AS REQUESTED. ALL RIGHTY. AND A SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON. WE PRESSED

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THE BUTTON BEFORE YOU DID. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO OUR JULY 14TH MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR? AND THAT, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR

[b. Hold a public hearing and consider the application of Hooda Enterprises, Inc., requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for Fuel Pumps, Retail use on property zoned Community Retail (CR) District and 2) a Concept Plan for the existing Fuel Pumps, Retail use. The site is located at 1401 Belt Line Road. (District 7) (File Z 23-51)]

THE CONSIDER TO CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF HODA ENTERPRISES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR FUEL PUMPS, RETAIL AND PROPERTY, ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE EXISTING FUEL PUMPS. RETAIL USE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1401 BELTLINE ROAD, AND SINCE THE APPLICANT IS APPARENTLY UNDER THE WEATHER, HE HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JUNE 23RD. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO OR NOT HEAR MOTION? DO I SEE A MOTION? THIS IS SO, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MISTER CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO. POSTPONE, AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT TO THE JUNE 23RD MEETING. YEAH, I'M SHOWING YOUR MIC IS LIVE, BUT IT WASN'T. AND THEN SECOND BY. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. I THINK THAT'S YOUR. OKAY. THERE WE GO. AND YOU DID SECOND THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY, GOOD. ALRIGHTY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO JUNE 23RD. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THIRD ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. HOLD A

[c. Hold a public hearing and consider the application of Rashad Haiddar, requesting a "Major Waiver" to Chapter 7, Table 7-7 of the Garland Development Code to allow an approximately 102-square-feet wall sign installed that is larger than the maximum allowed area to remain on the building of a property zoned Downtown (DT) District, Downtown, Suburban Corridor (SC) and the Automotive Overlay District. The maximum allowed area for the wall sign is 10 square feet as it is positioned less than 12 feet above grade. The site is located at 136 Lavon Drive. (District 2) (File DD 25-02)]

PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION REQUESTING A MAJOR WAIVER TO CHAPTER SEVEN, TABLE 7-7 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO PROPOSE TO ALLOW AN APPROXIMATE 102 SQUARE FOOT SIGN INSTALLED THAT IS LARGER THAN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED AREA TO REMAIN ON THE BUILDING OF A PROPOSED ZONING OF PROPERTY ZONED DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, SUBURBAN CENTER AND AUTOMOTIVE OVERLAY DISTRICT. THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED AREA FOR A WALL SIGN IS TEN SQUARE FEET, AND SO THIS SITE IS AT 136 LAVON DRIVE, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU NEED ANY INFORMATION. BUT HE HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TILL JUNE 23RD. MOVE. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE.

SECOND AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. SHOW OF HANDS FOR THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE ACTUALLY GET TO CONDUCT SOME

[d. Hold a public hearing and consider the application of ZoneDev, requesting approval of 1) a Planned Development for Dwelling, Single Family Attached Uses on a property zoned Planned Development (PD) District 17-18 for Community Retail Uses and 2) a Concept Plan for a Dwelling, Single Family Attached Use. The site is located at 1800 North Jupiter Road. (District 6) (File Z 25-11)]

BUSINESS NOW. ITEM TWO D HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF ZONE DEV REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR DWELLING SINGLE FAMILY. ATTACHED USES ON PROPERTY. ZONED PLAN. PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD DISTRICT 1718 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR DWELLING SINGLE FAMILY. ATTACHED USE. SITE IS LOCATED 1800 NORTH JUPITER. I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, BUT I BET YOU'VE GOT A PRESENTATION FOR US. OH, OKAY, I CAN TALK LOUD. OKAY, LET ME GET OVER THERE. YOUR PODIUM MIC IS ON TESTING. OKAY. PERFECT. YEAH.

GOOD EVENING, GOOD EVENING. THE FIRST CASE TONIGHT OR FOURTH CASE TONIGHT IS A Z 2511. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES ON A PROPERTY.

ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1718 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES ON A CONCEPT PLAN FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR DWELLING SINGLE FAMILY. ATTACHED USE. THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY. IT'S AT 1800 NORTH JUPITER ROAD. THE APPLICANT IS ZONED DEV AND IT'S A 12.62 ACRE SITE. THIS IS WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA TO THE NORTH, IT IS BORDERED BY PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS 22, 53 AND S 2003 FOR A DRIVE THROUGH FAST FOOD RESTAURANT IN TOW, AND THE PD IS FOR A MEDICAL OFFICE CENTER WITH EMERGENCY BAYS. THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE MULTIFAMILY, ONE IS DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS TO THE SOUTH. ALSO TO THE SOUTH IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN FINALLY TO THE WEST IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 9710, WHICH IS A WALGREENS PHARMACY. THE AREA IS SLATED FOR A COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE CURRENTLY SHOWING THE SITE ITSELF IN THE FIRST IMAGE. AND THEN THE FINAL IMAGE IS THE MUTUAL ACCESS AND THE WALGREENS. THAT WOULD BE THE WESTERN APPROACH TO THE SITE. HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN ITSELF.

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THE SOUTH, YOU CAN SEE, WILL BE LARGELY JUST REMAINING THE SAME, AS IT'S MOSTLY JUST CREEK AND TREES. IT'S VERY FLOODPLAIN HEAVY THERE NINE TOWNHOMES, FOUR OPEN SPACES, AND THEN TWO LARGER AMENITY AREAS WITH GUEST PARKING. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS NINE TOWNHOUSE LOTS HAVE A MINIMUM LOT DEPTH OF 80FT, AS WHERE THE GDC REQUIRES A MINIMUM LOT DEPTH OF 90FT. NOW BACK TO THE CONCEPT PLAN. THE LOTS THAT WILL BE HAVING THESE REDUCED LOT DEPTHS WOULD BE THE ONES THERE ON THE CUL DE SAC IN THE SOUTHEAST, AND THE ELBOW LOTS, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ALLEYS.

SO REALLY THEY'RE FOLLOWING JUST BETWEEN 80 AND 90FT LOT DEPTH GENERALLY, AS THEY ARE JUST BEING REDUCED BY THE CURB. AND THE GDC ONLY NATURALLY ALLOWS FOR THESE KIND OF REDUCTIONS WITH LOT WIDTH. AND THAT'S WHY THESE ONLY THESE LOTS OF THE 45 UNITS PROPOSED ARE HAVING LESS THAN THE GDC REQUIRED LOT DEPTH. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. WE SENT OUT 67 LETTERS.

WE RECEIVED THREE TOTAL RESPONSES. ONE WAS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST. ONE WAS OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR THE REQUEST AND ONE WAS OUTSIDE AGAINST. I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ROSE, LET ME GO AHEAD AND SEE WHICH BUTTON IT IS. OKAY. SORRY, I'M I'M I'M HAVING TO. OH, WHAT'D I DO WRONG? NO, YOU YOU COULD HAVE HIT THE BUTTON, BUT I GOT YOU ALL RIGHT THERE. THE DARK GRAY IS DRIVEWAY. SO THE. YEAH, THE VERY DARK GRAY IS GOING TO BE ALLEYS AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE KIND OF DRIVES WITHIN. AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT. WELL, WHERE DOES THE THERE'S, THERE'S A CUL DE SAC OR A CIRCLE AREA WITH THE DRIVEWAY GOING OUT OF IT. WHERE DOES THAT GO? WHICH WHICH ONE? THE ONE ON THE WEST SIDE, SIR.

YES, SIR. SO THAT GOES INTO A MUTUAL ACCESS DRIVE WHERE THAT WALGREENS IS, WHICH WAS DEPICTED IN THIS LAST PHOTO HERE. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO IN THROUGH THERE AND THEN OUT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. I GOT IT, THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I THINK YOUR MIC IS LIVE NOW. IT IS. THANK YOU. SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME BECAUSE NORMALLY WE CAN ZOOM IN. BUT THE WESTERN ACCESS HE'S ASKING ABOUT SAYS 24 HOUR EMERGENCY ACCESS WITH GATE AND KNOCKS BACK FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S NOT AN ACTUAL ENTRANCE. WELL, IT'S AN ACCESS, BUT IT'S NOT MEANT FOR ANYBODY'S USE EXCEPT FIRE DEPARTMENT ESSENTIALLY. YES. FOR THE BECAUSE WE THEY REQUIRE IT TO HAVE THE TWO ENTRANCES. BUT THAT'S THE ONE MAIN ENTRANCE THERE ON BUCKINGHAM ROAD. SO THE ONLY ENTRANCE WILL BE BUCKINGHAM. OKAY. IF FOR THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I SEE NO MORE REQUESTS. I ASSUME THE APPLICANT IS HERE. COME ON DOWN. YEAH. I GOT YOU. SEE, I THINK WE'VE SEEN THIS GENTLEMAN BEFORE. HERE WE GO. MAXWELL FISHER. LET ME TURN THA PODIUM MIC ON. TOLD YOU IT'S GOING TO BE A MESS. PRACTICE. AND BEFORE YOU START, LET ME GO AHEAD. AND I NORMALLY DO THIS AT THE BEGINNING, BUT BEFORE WE START, APPLICANTS WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

OTHER SPEAKERS. WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES. WE'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP LIKE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. WE ALLOW MORE, AND THEN WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT BACK UP TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING.

AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IN THE MICROPHONE. GO FOR IT. SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS MAXWELL FISHER WITH ZONE DEV 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080, REPRESENTING S R A F. WE ARE EXCITED TO PRESENT YOU A 45 UNIT TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU KNOW THIS, MANY OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT THERE'S A T T STORE OR SHOP THAT WAS APPROVED AND THEN DEVELOPED AND THEN A MEDICAL FACILITY IN FRONT THAT TOOK UP A LOT OF THE FRONTAGE ON BUCKINGHAM. AND THIS IS SORT OF THE LEFTOVER PIECE AND HAS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF FRONTAGE. AND WITH THE GREEN SPACE IN THE BACK, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT A RESIDENTIAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT MAKES MAKES THE MOST SENSE HERE. AND IT'S WHAT'S PROPOSED BEFORE YOU. SO IT'S 45 UNITS, TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT. IT'S ABOUT SEVEN UNITS PER ACRE. AND DENSITY, IF YOU INCLUDE THE FLOODPLAIN, IT'S ABOUT THREE AND A HALF UNITS PER ACRE. SO IT'S

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ON THE LOWER END OF THE MEDIUM DENSITY CATEGORY. DEPENDING ON HOW YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CATEGORIZING IT OR LOOKING AT IT, VEHICLE ACCESS WOU BE TWO WAY ACCESS TO BUCKINGHAM. THE ACCESS OFF THE CUL DE SAC IS EMERGENCY ONLY TO MEET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS. HERE'S A CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN. THESE ARE ILLUSTRATIVE BUT AT LEAST SHOWS YOU CONCEPT. WE WILL HAVE FOUR OPEN SPACES. ACTUALLY I THINK THERE'S FIVE. YOU COUNT THE ONE TO THE TO THE EAST OF THE PARKING AREA. SO WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE SOME PROGRAM PARK AREAS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SHADED PICNIC AREAS, GRILLING STATIONS. AND THERE'LL BE 17 OR 18 PARKING SPACES THAT WILL BE FOR GUESTS. SINCE THESE ARE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S LIMITED PARKING OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S ON THE SITE. THE SITE HAS TWO CAR GARAGE ATTACHED GARAGES, PLUS FULL DRIVEWAYS IN THE BACK.

SO YOU CAN YOU COULD PARK FOUR VEHICLES ON EACH PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO THE GUEST PARKING.

SO QUITE A BIT OF PARKING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. HERE'S A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS, BUT PLAN ON WHAT IT WILL PROBABLY LOOK LIKE AT LEAST. WHAT ARCHITECT HAS COME UP WITH. I HAVE TO INTERRUPT. I LOVE THE MOUNTAINS IN THE BACKGROUND IF YOU CAN. YEAH, THAT'S OVER BY BELTLINE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THOSE. YEAH, I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT THERE'D BE A FEW COMMENTS ON THAT. OF COURSE. LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN THE PIEDMONT OR ALLEGHENY. OKAY, SO THIS WE BELIEVE IT'S AN EXCELLENT RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT. IT COMPLIES WITH THE GDC TOWNHOME STANDARDS, PROVIDES A RANGE OF HOUSING OPTIONS, AND COMPLIES WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE COMP PLAN AND STAFF'S AND SUPPORT WE ACTUALLY DON'T NEED. TURNS OUT WE DON'T NEED NINE LOTS AT A LOWER DEPTH THAN 90FT. WE ONLY NEED THREE. SO IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE 3 OR 5 TO GIVE US A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY, THAT'S FINE. ONLY THE LOTS THAT ARE ON THE ELBOW GO BACK. LOTS ON THE ELBOW, KNUCKLE ELBOW CALLED DIFFERENT THINGS. THOSE DEFINITELY ARE WILL BE LESS THAN 90 FOR SURE. BUT THEN THE OTHER REFERENCES THAT WE HAD PROPOSED TO BE LESS WE TURNS OUT WE DON'T NEED THEM TO BE LESS THAN 90. SO THREE 3 TO 5 WOULD BE FINE. I'LL STOP THERE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER DALTON? HELLO. THANK YOU.

MAXWELL, IS THERE GOING TO BE A CUT THROUGH LEFT TURN LANE CUT INTO BUCKINGHAM AT THIS POINT FOR YOU TO ENTER IF YOU'RE GOING WESTBOUND. NOT THAT I'M AWA OF. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. THERE WOULD BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY. AND THEN SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO DO A U-TURN TO THE EAST.

SO I'M NOT AWARE OF A LEFT HAND TURN PROPOSED THERE STAFF. AS OF NOW, I'D JUST LOST HIS MICROPHONE. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS, FOLKS. OKAY, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. DUNCAN. YEAH, THANK YOU SIR. TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE FIRST IS THIS INTENDED TO BE AN HOA MANAGED COMMUNITY? OKAY. SECOND QUESTION, AND I THINK I SEE IT ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. IT'S A IS THERE A WALL THAT SURROUNDS THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY? YES, OF A MASONRY WALL. COMMON PROPERTY LINE THAT BACKS TO THE MEDICAL FACILITY AND THE OTHER RETAIL. TYPICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE THE BURDEN OF PUTTING UP THAT WALL, BUT SO TECHNICALLY WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PUT IT UP, BUT WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE IT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THEN DO BOARD ON BOARD. WOULD FENCING ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE SOUTHERN SIDE.HAT'S AGAINST THE CREEK AND THE TREES. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING EITHER BOARD ON BOARD OR JUST DECORATIVE METAL. SO THAT WAY YOU COULD SEE SEE THE TREES.

SO YOU KIND OF ESSENTIALLY LEAVE THAT OPEN. WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON THAT YET. YOU SO YOU'VE GOT THE BOARD ON BOARD ON THE AND EAST AND WEST SIDES, PRESUMING THAT WE'RE LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS BUCKINGHAM HERE, WE'VE GOT THE GATE AS WELL, THE EGRESS GATE FOR THE FIRE AS WELL. WHY NOT JUST DO THE DECORATIVE METAL BARRED GATE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT SO THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT A, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT DESIGN THERE, METAL BAR GATE THAT OPENS AND CLOSES AND YEAH, I MEAN WE'LL HAVE THE GATE WILL BE A POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT MATERIAL. GOTCHA.

OKAY. THE WOOD I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT. GOT YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIR AND

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COMMISSIONER ABLE. LET'S SEE. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. HEY. SO THANK YOU. KNOWING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL AS I'M IN THAT INTERSECTION, I LIVE THERE RIGHT AT BUCKINGHAM ON YOUR NORTHERN ENTRANCE THERE. THERE IS A DAYCARE ACROSS FROM YOU. THERE IS A CONSTANT FLOW OF CARS MAKING U-TURNS RIGHT THERE ALL DAY. I DON'T KNOW, DOES THIS REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY OR IS IT NOW? YEAH. SO EXACTLY. MY, MY, THERE'S A TRIP CHART WE COULD TALK ABOUT. OKAY. MY ONE CONCERN THERE FOR Y'ALL'S STANDPOINT OR FOR THE RESIDENTS STANDPOINT IS GETTING IN AND OUT BECAUSE THAT HAVING TO MAKE A RIGHT, HAVING TO GO DOWN AND MAKE A U TURN, YOU'VE GOT HOME DEPOT AND EVERYTHING ELSE RIGHT THERE AT WALGREENS. YEAH. TRAFFIC'S GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE FOR THAT.

YEAH. WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 400 TRIPS SPREAD OUT OVER THE ENTIRE DAY. AND SO IN THE AM, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT ABOUT 25 EXITING TRIPS DURING THE PEAK HOUR. SO OVER AN HOUR, HOUR PERIOD IN THE MORNING THERE'LL BE A LITTLE MORE TRAFFIC. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND YOU COMPARE TO WHAT ELSE COULD GO HERE, IT COULD BE WORSE. I THINK THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF THAT MAYBE NOT AS BAD, WOULD BE MAYBE LIKE SELF STORAGE THAT HAS LIKE TEN TRIPS A DAY. I AGREE, MY ONE CONCERN THOUGH IS YEAH, APPRECIATE THAT LIVING RIGHT ON LAWLOR WHERE PEOPLE SPEED AND TURN LEFT AND GO NORTH ON JUPITER AND DON'T STOP AT THE LIGHT THAT THAT CONCERNS ME, BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. SO YEAH, I WISH WE HAD MEDIAN ACCESS. I WISH EVERY PROPERTY HAD MEDIAN ACCESS. BUT YEAH, RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR WHAT THE SOLUTION IS THERE. WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ONE. I WISH I KNEW. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER DALTON. NO. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, SORRY. IT WENT OFF. JUST A SECOND.

THERE YOU GO. POTENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE UNITS THAT ARE GOING THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YOU SAID YOU COULD GO WITH 3 TO 5 SHORTER LOTS AS YOUR CIVIL ENGINEER VERIFIED THAT THEN. SO THAT LAYOUT IS PRETTY FIRM.

YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. SECOND, JUST AN OBSERVATION. WE SEE A LOT OF TOWNHOME PLANS COME THROUGH HERE. I LIKE THE REAR ENTRY AS A MATTER OF FACT IF IT'S OKAY I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT AS A CONDITION TO THE PD. SURE. SO SOMEBODY DOESN'T COME IN LATER AND TRY TO MAKE IT A FRONT ENTRY. AND SECOND, ALL THE EXTRA PARKING FOR GUESTS YOU PROVIDED THAT. THAT'S VERY GOOD TOO. WE APPRECIATE THAT. GREAT. ALRIGHTY. APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'LL HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NOBODY. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, MOTION DISCUSSION. MOTION BUTTONS. WE'RE TRYING ALL THIS STUFF OUT TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER ROSE, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE APPLICANTS. OKAY? AND I HEARD A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. OH, GO. GO AHEAD. IT'S COMMISSIONER ABLE. IT SAYS SAYS HEDRICK HERE. BUT YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE NOT COMMISSIONER. OKAY, IF WE WANT TO ADD YOUR REQUEST FOR HERE TO THE PD. WELL, I THINK IT'S JUST A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. DID YOU SAY TO HIS WAS TO APPROVE TO. OKAY, I MISSED THAT. YEAH. DID YOU WISH TO INCLUDE THE PROVISION FOR REAR ENTRY? ABSOLUTELY. THANK. OH, YEAH. DID YOU WANT TO AMEND THE LOT DEPTH REQUEST TO 3 OR 5 LOTS? AS REQUESTED BY THE. WE. OKAY. SO AS LET ME STATE THE MOTION AS I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT, THE MOTION IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST WITH ALLOWING FIVE LOTS TO BE LESS THAN 90FT, AND I THINK A MINIMUM OF 80FT, AND THAT THE PROVISION BE INSERTED THAT THEY ARE REAR ENTRY UNITS. YES. AND I HEARD A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS ORIGINALLY. DO YOU CONCUR WITH THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MOTION IS TO APPROVE. ALRIGHTY. SHOW OF

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HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND THANK YOU FOR THE HELP THERE. ALL RIGHT, NEXT

[e. Hold a public hearing and consider the application of Parchause Firewheel, LP., requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for Fuel Pumps, Retail use on property zoned Planned Development District and 2) a Concept Plan for Fuel Pumps, Retail use. The site is located at 3241 Castle Dr. (District 1) (File Z 25-14)]

ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM TWO. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPLICATION OF PARK HOUSE FIREWHEEL LP, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR FUEL PUMPS. RETAIL USE ON PROPERTY. ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR FUEL PUMPS.

RETAIL USES. SITE IS LOCATED 3241 CASTLE DRIVE. GOOD EVENING AND LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THAT MIC ON. THERE YOU GO. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS CASE 2514. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A FUEL PUMPS RETAIL USE OTHE PROPERTY.

ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 2162 WITH A COMMUNITY RETAIL BASE ZONE. AND THE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED. ALL RIGHT SO THE LOCATION IS 3241 CASTLE DRIVE. HERE'S WHERE IT'S LOCATED IN THE CITY. THE APPLICANT IS KELLY HORN AND THE SITE IS ABOUT 2.1 ACRES. ALL RIGHT. HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP OF THE SITE. SO TO THE NORTH YOU DON'T SEE IT ON THIS MAP. BUT THERE IS A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND THEN TO THE SOUTH THERE IS A GAS STATION THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS TO THE EAST. THAT SAME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT COMES TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN TO THE WEST IS ACROSS FIREWHEEL PARKWAY. THERE'S AN UNDEVELOPED LOT. RIGHT? THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS AREA CALLS FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS. SO YOU SEE A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE FACING NORTH FROM CASTLE DRIVE AND FIREWHEEL PARKWAY, AND THEN A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE FACING WEST. THEN HERE'S A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING EAST, AND THEN A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING SOUTH, WHICH FACES THE EXISTING GAS STATION, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET IN THE CITY OF ROWLETT. ALL RIGHT. AND SO HERE IS THE CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN. THERE'S TO BE ONE ENTRANCE FROM FIREWHEEL PARKWAY, AS WELL AS AN ENTRANCE FROM CASTLE DRIVE ARE THE PROPOSED 20 FUEL PUMPS THAT WILL FACE FIREWHEEL DRIVE. THIS WOULD BE THE 16 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE MAXIMUM TIME PERIOD OF 25 YEARS FOR THE FUEL PUMPS WITH THE RECOMMENDED TIME IS 20 TO 25 YEARS. AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THIS REQUEST IS DENIAL. ALL RIGHT. AND SO WE RECEIVED WE SENT OUT 16 LETTERS. WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF FOUR RESPONSES. AND THE FOUR OF THOSE RESPONSES ARE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST. I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS. OKAY. COMMISSIONER DALTON, THANK YOU.

WHAT WAS STAFF'S REASONING FOR THE DENIAL? SO STAFF, WE BASED OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH CALLS FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS IN COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY CALL FOR PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, HIGHER DENSITY A MIX OF LOW TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS. SO THE GAS STATION USE REALLY DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THAT. AND NOR IS IT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, LET ME GET THAT THERE. YEAH. I'M SORRY.

WHAT? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'VE REMOVED MYSELF FROM THE REQUEST. OH, OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GOING BLANK THERE. OKAY. ANY OER QUESTIONS? I BELIEVE IN THE REPORT YOU HAD ALSO, YOU KNOW, IN EVEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM, WANTED THEM TO MAYBE PUT THE BUILDING BEFORE AND THE PUMPS BACK BEHIND AND THAT. YES. SO DURING THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, WE DID SUGGEST A MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY DESIGN BY BRINGING THE STOREFRONT TO THE CURB AND CREATING A MORE URBAN LOOK AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY LOOK, YOU MAY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WALK TO THE GAS. YOU MAY BE MORE INCLINED TO WALK THERE VERSUS IF THE FUEL PUMPS ARE IN FRONT FACING THE STREET. RIGHT. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S KIND OF THE SAME CONCEPT I WAS PUSHING FOR THE ONE THAT WENT IN ARAPAHOE AND RLAND. BUT YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? COME ON DOWN AND

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NAME AN ADDRESS IN THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. STEPHANIE TUTT. MY ADDRESS IS 2600 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS. SO I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE ON THE PROJECT. WE BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD USE FOR THE CORNER. IT'S A HARD CORNER, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS A GOOD SPOT FOR THE GAS STATION ITSELF. IT'S ALSO UNDER THE EXISTING PD, WHICH DOES SHOW COMMUNITY RETAIL AS THE USE FOR THAT PARCEL THAT'S ON THAT CORNER. THE OTHER JUST ITEM THAT WE THINK WOULD MAKE A GOOD FUEL STATION USE FOR THIS CORNER IS IT'S NEAR THE HIGH DESERT, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THAT PARK HAS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S UP TO THE, I GUESS NORTH AND THE NORTHEAST OF THE CORNER ITSELF.

THREE OF THOSE RESPONSES THAT WERE IN FAVOR WERE ACTUALLY FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT FROM THE PARK HOUSE RESIDENTS. SO I DO THINK THEY WERE OUT OF THE NOTIFICATION ZONE, BUT THEY'RE THE CLOSEST RESIDENTS TO THE ACTUAL GAS STATION ITSELF. AND THEN JUST IN TERMS OF THE PUTTING THE BUILDING IN FRONT FUEL STATIONS, WE DID TALK TO OUR CLIENT ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY DON'T LIKE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. IN THIS CASE, THEY THEY ENJOY HAVING THEIR BUILDING KIND OF BEHIND THE FUEL STATIONS THEMSELVES. BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ON THE SITE, WHETHER IT COMES TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, ANY QUEUESTIONS O JUST QUESTIONS IN GENERAL ON THE SITE ITSELF? COMMISSIONER JENKINS, LET ME. THINK, MR. CHAIR. WE GOT IT. WE'RE GETTING IT. THERE WE GO. YEAH, WELL, TRYING TO PRESS A LITTLE ITTY BITTY TYPE ABOUT THAT BIG. THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR COMING DOWN AND THE PRESENTATION AS WELL. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, AS I'M LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS UP, I DIDN'T SEE ANY INDICATION THAT THERE WOULD BE RECHARGE STATIONS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES, AS IS THAT CONTEMPLATED UNDER THE PLAN, OR IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING AT THIS TIME? SORRY, THE PODIUM MIC WENT OFF. GO AHEAD. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CERTAINLY BRING TO THE CLIENT. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY DO THIS ON MOST OF THEIR SITES. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE. SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. MOTION. DISCUSSION. AND USE THE MOTION BUTTON. WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER ABEL, I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE IN DISCUSSION MODE NOW. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER ABEL, YOUR MIC IS STILL LIVE. SO IT HAS BEEN A WHILE, BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE DID VOTE TO APPROVE STORAGE IN THE TURN. JUST THAT WOULD BE NORTHWEST OF THIS. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO DO WE KNOW IF THE COUNCIL APPROVED THAT. DO YOU KNOW? THAT ONE THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED THAT IT BE PLACED ON. SO IT DIDN'T GO TO COUNCIL WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST? IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE JULY COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. I MY THOUGHTS ARE I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. YOU'VE GOT SEVEN EIGHT LANES OF FIREWHEEL PARKWAY RIGHT THERE. WHAT PEDESTRIANS ARE WE TRYING TO CAPTURE THEM FROM ROWLETT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CASTLE? I'M TRYING. I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE REASON FOR DENIAL. BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AREA, THERE'S A 7-ELEVEN ON THE ADJACENT CORNER. THERE'S OPEN FIELDS, AND THEN THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL RIGHT THERE. SO ARE WE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO WALK FROM FIREWHEEL TO THERE? SO WHEN WE SAY PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO ONLY WALK TO THE SITE. IT IT REFERS TO. LIKE DAVID SAID, IT REFERS TO A STYLE WHICH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BUILDING WHEN THE BUILDING IS CLOSER TO THE STREET AND THE PARKING IS BEHIND THE BUILDING, THAT GIVES WHOEVER'S DRIVING AND WALKING IN THAT AREA A CERTAIN FEEL AND LOOK THAT IF

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IT'S A GAS STATION WHERE THE PUMPS ARE, THE ONLY THING YOU CAN SEE FROM THE STREET WHEN YOU'RE COMING INTO THE TO THE CITY, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE MOST INVITING, INVITING FEEL.

THAT'S KIND OF THE ESTHETICS OF HOW OUR URBAN ENVIRONMENT, HOW WE SEE THAT. AND IN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AS DAVID SAID, IT'S BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES CALL OUT, CALL IT OUT FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE GAS STATION IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THAT VISION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, LET'S TRY. YES. COME ON. THERE WE GO. YEP. IT JUST WENT AWAY. THERE YOU GO. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I AFTER HAVING REVIEWED THE PACKET THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US ONCE THE AGENDA WAS POSTED AND THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAVE TOO MANY GAS STATIONS IN THE CITY OF GARLAND AND ANOTHER ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE. I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS REQUEST PURSUANT TO STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IN COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, I SECOND HIS MOTION.

OKAY, WELL, I DON'T THINK IT WAS MOTION. HE SAID HE'LL BE VOTING AGAINST IT. WE'RE WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER HARRIS, LET ME. YEAH. I'M HOT NOW. I DIDN'T HAVE HOT MEETING. THE MIC IS HOT. I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THIS OF THE APPLICANT. AND I'M NOT ASKING THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP. MY INITIAL THOUGHTS WHEN I SAW THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THE. THE CURREN, THE CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN HAS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IN TERMS OF BEST USE OF LAND, I KNOW THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY IN TERMS OF THE PD, BUT BEST USE OF LAND AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO ASK THE APPLICANT. SO I WAS GOING TO ASK STAFF IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK DOWN, GO AHEAD, I KNOW IT. HAS THERE BEEN AN I KNOW WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET HER. YEAH WE BELIEVE IN FAIRNESS HERE. SO TOO SLOW TO HIT THE BUTTON EARLIER.

SO I WAS JUST GOING TO ROLL WITH IT. SO MY QUESTION I KNOW I WAS RAMBLING, MY QUESTION WAS JUST I ALWAYS THINK BACK TO WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF LAND YOU'VE GIVEN SOME. YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THE ADVICE AROUND THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR PEDESTRIAN USE AND THEN BUT THE DECISION WAS TO GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE. SO IS THERE A DIFFERENT BEST USE OF LAND THAT YOU BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE, OR THIS IS REALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO GO WITH AND THAT'S IT. I. SEGMENTS. SO SORRY. TRUTHFULLY OUR CLIENT IS CASEY'S GAS STATION. AND SO IN OUR CASE, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE GAS STATION IS THE BEST USE OF LAND. IF YOU'RE ASKING IS MORE OF JUST A VAGUE OPINION. I DO BELIEVE THAT ANY HARD CORNER IS A GOOD SPOT FOR GAS STATION, WHETHER IT'S CASEY'S OR SOMETHING ELSE. CASEY'S HAS A MORE ELEVATED LOOK AS WELL, SO THINK OF MORE OF A RACETRACK OR A SH, SOMETHING WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER END FACADES. I, I KNOW THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES SHOW COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS AREA, BUT CURRENTLY IT IS ZONED FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL, SO IT'S NOT ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY USE AT THE MOMENT. IT'S ALSO A FAIRLY SMALLER PARCEL TO PUT ANY KIND OF RESIDENTIAL, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT A RESIDENTIAL USE ON THIS PARCEL WOULD BE THE BEST USE OF THIS LAND. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK UP. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER DALTON, THERE WE GO. THIS IS A QUESTION. YEAH. SORRY. WHAT WOULD IF WE WERE TO APPROVE? WOW. I PICK UP MYSELF IN HERE. YEAH, DEFINITELY. IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, WOULD IT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE REST OF THAT CORNER PROPERTY FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE? OR WOULD THE DEVELOPER WANT THAT ENTIRE CORNER? I KNOW IT'S AN OPINIONATE. OPINIONATED QUESTION. YES. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, IT DOES IMPACT THE ENTIRE AREA. THIS IS TRULY THE EDGE OF THE CITY. SO IF YOU IF IT'S DEVELOPOPED WITH A GAS STATION NOW, THEN THINGS THAT USES THAT FOLLOW A GAS STATION ARE ARE MORE LIKELY TO FOLLOW FOR THE REST OF THE UNDEVELOPED TRACT OF LAND, THEN WOULDN'T THAT ALSO APPLY TO THE GAS STATION THAT'S CURRENTLY ACROSS THE STREET? WHAT IS THE QUESTION

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ON THAT? WELL, YOU SAID HAVING THAT GAS STATION THERE DETRIMENTALLY AFFECTS THAT AREA, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT A GAS STATION ACROSS THE STREET. YEAH. WE DO NOT WANT TO MAKE THE MAKE THE DECISIONS EVEN MORE DETRIMENTAL FOR WHATEVER THE VISION THAT WE HAVE SET FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THAT GAS STATION, ALL THE LAND AROUND THE EXISTING ONE IS IN ROWLETT TOO. SO. YEAH. ALL RIGHTY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JENKINS ON THIS ONE AND THAT WHEN WE HAD THAT CASE ABOUT THE STORAGE, ONE OF MY REASONS FOR VOTING FOR IT STAFF WANTED TO RETAIL THERE AND EVERYTHING. THERE WERE OTHER RETAIL AREAS. I WAS THINKING OF THIS CORNERS RETAIL AREA AND YEAH, GAS STATION FITS NICELY ON A CORNER.

SO DOES A CVS OR WALGREENS AND OTHER USES THAT ARE MAY BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO ALL THOSE FOLKS IN PARKHOUSE. YOU'VE GOT THE GAS STATION ACROSS THE STREET IN THE OLD KELSO PROPERTY. THAT'S PROBABLY A NAME. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH REMEMBERS MR. KELSO FROM WESTERN BANK, AND IT USED TO BE HIS HOME THERE. SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT A GOOD SIZED STATION THERE. SO I. I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST APPROVAL ON THIS ONE. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THIS TO WORK. OKAY, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, CAN I PUSH A BUTTON? YEAH. YOU PUSH THE MOTION BUTTO, AND. AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS PUSHED. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS SECOND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO DENY THE REQUEST. FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. . IS THERENY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NO DISCUSSION. THE MOTION IS TO DENY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DENIAL. OKAY. AND THAT PASSES. LET ME DO MY COUNTING. 6 TO 2. PARDON? OH, OKAY. OKAY. WITH COMMISSIONER JONES ABSTAINING AND COMMISSIONER ABLE IN OPPOSITION. ALRIGHTY. SO THE MOTION PASSES FOR THE DENIAL. WE MADE IT THROUGH THAT ONE. OKAY. OUR LAST ITEM, ITEM TWO F HOLD A PUBLIC

[f. Hold a public hearing and consider the application of Carlos Porras, requesting a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for a Breweries/Wineries/Distilleries use. The site is located at 532 Main Street Suite A. (District 2) (File Z 25-22)]

HEARING. CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF CARLOS PORTIS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A BREWERIES WINERIES DISTILLERIES USE SITE IS LOCATED AT 532 MAIN STREET SUITE A. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I THINK THAT OKAY YEAH. SO THE APPLICANT REQUEST THIS IS ZONING CASE 2522. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR BREWERIES, WINERIES AND DISTILLERIES USE ON THE PROPERTY ZONED DOWNTOWN DISTRICT IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC SUBDISTRICT. AND THE SEAT IS CURRENTLY VACANT. IT'S LOCATED AT 532 MAIN STREET SUITE. A APPLICANT IS LOCKWOOD DISTILLING COMPANY, AND THE SUITE SIZE IS 5000FT■S. ALL RIGHT, SO HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP TO THE NORTH. THE PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE. TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY, ALONG WITH SOME PUBLIC RESTROOMS A AND THE BOY SCOUTS OFFICE. TO THE WEST, THERE'S A GENERAL OFFICE FOR ALLSTATE INSURANCE, AND TO THE EAST IT IS THE MOMENTUM TATTOO THAT OCCUPIES THAT SPACE. ALL RIGHT. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS AREA CALLS FOR COMMUNITY CENTERS. HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS. SO THIS IS FACING NORTH TOWARDS THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE. IT'S FACING SOUTH TOWARDS THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. AND THE BOY SCOUTS OFFICE. AND THIS IS LOOKING EAST. YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE HERE. AND THEN THIS IS OH MY APOLOGIES. THIS IS LOOKING WEST. SO THE APPLICANT REQUESTS SPECIFIC USE PROVISION TO ALLOW FOR THE USE FOR AN INDEFINITE TIME PERIOD. OUR OUR TIME PERIOD POLICY GUIDELINES DO NOT HAVE A RECOMMENENDED TIMENE FOR THIS USE. STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THIS IS APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. WE RECEIVED WE MAILED OUT 115 LETTERS. WE RECEIVED TWO

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RESPONSES WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WE HAVE ONE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WE ALSO HAVE ONE IN FAVOR. AND I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COMMISSIONER ABEL. AND LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS THIS TIME. GO FOR IT.

YOU'RE LIVE. I'M ON. OH I HIT THE WRONG. WELL, I HIT THE BUTTON FOR WHOEVER CHIMED IN.

OKAY. YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE BEER AND WINE AND STUFF HERE, OR ARE THEY JUST SELLING? I GOT IT. SO ON THIS ONE, BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD US, THEY MAY NOT BE DISTILLING ON SITE. THE REASON THEY'RE HAVING TO REQUEST IT IS BECAUSE THEIR LICENSE REQUIRES THAT THE SITE BE ZONED FOR A DISTILLERY. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE TALKING A PAPERWORK THING HERE.

YEAH. OKAY. IT MEANS THE SITE WILL BE ZONED FOR DISTILLERY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THIS OPERATOR AND ANOTHER OPERATOR. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. AND, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

GOOD EVENING, SIR, TO BEGIN, GOOD PRESENTATION. I WANT TO ASK ABOUT STAFF'S. IN SOME OF OUR PREVIOUS CASES, WE'VE DISCUSSED THE IDEA OF HAVING INDEFINITE SUPS AND SOME OF THE HICCUPS THAT CAN RESULT FROM THAT. I RECOGNIZE THAT STAFF INDICATED THAT THERE WAS NO CURRENT GUIDE.

IF THERE WERE A GUIDE, HYPOTHETICALLY, WHAT WOULD THAT RANGE OR WHAT COULD THAT RANGE BE? COULD IT BE 25 YEARS? 20 YEARS, I KNOW IT'S YEAH. WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF AN INDEFINITE TIME PERIOD. IF THERE WERE A GUIDE, IT WOULD LIKELY BE WITHIN THE 15 TO 25 YEAR RANGE, AS ARE THE SUPS FOR GAS STATIONS. OH THANK YOU. ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, SINCE THERE'S NOT A GUIDE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THINK ABOUT THE USE ITSELF. DISTILLERY IN THE DOWNTOWN. DO YOU SEE THAT AS A FAVORABLE USE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA? IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN THE REQUESTED INDEFINITE PERIOD MAY NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE AREA. YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT. I, I THINK WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, INTRINSIC WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATE SONS, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF FANTASTIC EATERIES CURRENTLY IN THAT SPACE. AND WE CERTAINLY WELCOME, I THINK ANOTHER ANOTHER ONE. BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THE SPACE AS IT IS NOW IS VERY INCLUSIVE AS IT RELATES TO FAMILIES. THERE ARE A LOT OF AMENITIES THAT CATER TO A VERY SPECIFIC AGE RANGE. SO FOR AND I KNOW THAT RECENTLY THE LIBRARY, FOR EXAMPLE, HAD A FANTASTIC EVENT ON THE SQUARE. FAMILIES ARE, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE PLACE. I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN IT'S A VERY FINE LINE TO WALK, AND I JUST WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT WE, WE ARE INCLUSIVE OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT JOIN THAT AREA. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IF YOU CARE TO COME ON DOWN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE AND TELL US WHATEVER YOU WANT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS EVAN BATT. MY ADDRESS IS 6104 OAK CREST ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75248. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. WE AT LOCKWOOD DISTILLING COMPANY, WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 2019. WE HAD THE FORESIGHT TO GET INTO BUSINESS RIGHT BEFORE COVID, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. BUT OUR BUSINESS, I KNOW WE'RE VOTING ON DISTILLERIES IN GENERAL FOR THE ZONING PURPOSE, BUT OUR BUSINESS AS IT AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS, IS THAT WE'RE VERY MUCH COMMUNITY INVOLVED. WE'RE VERY FAMILY FRIENDLY. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF EFFORTS IN THE COMMUNITIES WE CURRENTLY HAVE LOCATIONS IN, WHICH INCLUDE FORT WORTH, RICHARDSON AND MCKINNEY, WHERE WE'RE IN THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE, MCKINNEY AS WELL. SO OUR GOAL IS TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY TO DO BUSINESS THE RIGHT WAY. WE DO A LOT WITH CHARITABLE EFFORTS. YOU KNOW, WE ARE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD AS A DISTILLERY. WE HAVE A FEDERAL LICENSE AS WELL AS STATE PERMITS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE JUST A REGULAR RESTAURANT OR LIQUOR STORE OR BAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'VE GOT VERY SPECIFIC, TIGHT GUIDELINES DRIVEN BY THESE FEDERAL AGENCIES. WE HOLD WINERY PERMITS

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AND DISTILLERY PERMITS, ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS. WE ALSO HAVE A MANUFACTURING LOCATION IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS. IT'S 20,000FT■S. AGAIN, THESE ARE AUDITED PERIODICALLY FROM THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO PUT IT ANY EASE, WE ARE NOT MOONSHINERS BY ANY BYNY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. EVERYTHING, EVERY DROP IS ACCOUNTED FOR WELL BEYOND WHAT A TRADITIONAL BAR OR RESTAURANT DOES. SO THAT'S OUR GOALS. WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN.

ANY QUESTIONS? IF YOU LET ME, I'LL TALK ALL NIGHT ABOUT OUR BUSINESS. SO JUST BE WARNED. WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS SO YOU'LL GET PART OF YOUR WISH. COMMISSIONER DALTON. AND THANK YOU. ARE YOU GOING TO BE SERVING ANY KIND OF FOOD IN YOUR ESTABLISHMENT? YES, SIR. WE ARE WORKING SERVICE RESTAURANTS. THIS THIS GROUP. SORRY, SORRY. THE MACHINE KEEPS. THAT'LL BE ONE OF MY CRITIQUES IF YOU GUYS ARE, WELL, FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT IN THIS LOCATION.

WHAT DISTILLERIES AREN'T PERMITTED FOR THAT? WE AREN'T BOUND BY THE 50% FOOD RULE. SO THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR OUR LICENSE. THERE IS NO LIMITATION. BUT WE'RE WE ARE FULL SERVICE.

OUR INTENT FROM DAY ONE IS TO DO DINNER SERVICE AT LEAST SIX NIGHTS A WEEK, LUNCH SERVICE AT LEAST THREE NIGHTS A WEEK. AND THEN AS THE TRAFFIC GROWS, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY OPEN MORE HOURS AS NEEDED. SO SINCE YOU'RE NOT A MOONSHINER, WE WON'T BE SEEING YOU ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL ANYTIME. UNFORTUNATELY NOT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS, MR. CHAIR, GOOD EVENING, SIR. TO BEGIN, IT'S EXCITING TO CONSIDER OR CONTEMPLATE. A WE'RE NOT PERMITTED TO CONSIDER THE APPLICANT. WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO CONSIDER THE USE OF THE LAND. THAT SAID, IT WOULD BE EXCITING TO CONSIDER THIS APPLICANT'S OPERATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE ON THIS PARCEL. HOWEVER, MY ONLY QUESTION RELATES TO THE QUESTION THAT THE STAFF AND I WERE JUST KIND OF TALKING ABOUT. WOULD IT BE IMMENSE HEARTACHE OR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU BREAK UP WITH US IF WE, YOU KNOW, HAD SOME HESITATION ABOUT AN INDEFINITE PERIOD IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING NOT THAT I WOULD EVER WANT ANYTHING LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN, BUT YOU DECIDE TO NOT DEVELOP THERE. AND WE'VE GOT NOW A NEW ACTOR THAT MAYBE IS NOT AS TRUSTWORTHY WITH THIS PRESENTATION, A 30 YEARUV WITH. WOULD THAT GIVE YOU SIGNIFICANT HEART HEARTACHE? NOT AT ALL. I THINK AS LONG AS WE MIRRORED OUR OUR LEASE TERMS, THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR US. SO THAT WAY, IF WE EXTENDED FURTHER, WE COULD GO THROUGH ANOTHER REVIEW. BUT OUR OUR LEASE, I BELIEVE, AS IT STANDS, IS A TEN YEAR WITH TWO FIVE YEAR OPTIONS. SO WE PLAN ON BEING HERE A LONG TIME AND THAT HOPEFULLY SO. BUT WE'LL WE'LL ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER. I UNDERSTAND THE LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS AND THINGS CHANGE.

SO YOU KNOW I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU ALL ON THAT. BUT AS LONG AS IT MIRRORS OUR LEASE, WE'D BE WE'D BE SATISFIED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE. ARE YOU ON GETTING STARTED? WE'D LOVE TO OPEN TOMORROW. SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY STEP ONE. WE ARE. WE ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO THE BUILDING. SO OUR ARCHITECT IS DRAWING PLANS TO FOR REVIEW TO GET PRICING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE UNDER ANOTHER PARALLEL EFFORT, I THINK, WITH THE CITY THAT I THINK WE'VE FIGURED OUT IN AUGUST, I FORGOT WHAT IT IS. I THINK IT'S THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION EFFORT. SO WE'RE MIRRORING THAT TRACK AS WELL. NO LIMITATIONS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE. BUT ONCE WE'RE APPROVED, WE'RE READY TO GO. SO DOES THE STATE REQUIRE A TIMEFRAME REGARDING LICENSE? YES, SIR. IT'S FEDERAL FIRST. ONCE YOU HAVE THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE APPROVES, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE DONE IT A HANDFUL OF TIMES. SO WE KNOW THE TIMELINE TO DO IT IN CONJUNCTION. SO WE WILL LIKELY, YOU KNOW, EVALUATE THE RISK. WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES. LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT PROBABLY MORE LICENSES THAN ANYBODY IN THE STATE. SO I DON'T I DON'T FORESEE ANY ISSUES. WE WILL BE CAUTIOUS JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU SPEND YOU DON'T GET IT BACK. SO OUR GOAL IS TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. WE REALLY WANT TO BE OPEN. YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO AMBITIOUS THIS OCTOBER NOVEMBER. I HOPE THAT'S THE CASE. IN MY EXPERIENCE I'M ALWAYS WRONG. SO HOPEFULLY WE HIT 2025. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONER PARIS, I THINK YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. I HADN'T TOUCHED IT, BUT I. OKAY. YOU'RE YOUR NAME CAME

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UP. I YOUR NAME CAME UP, I MOVED TO OR. OH, NO. I'M SORRY. THAT WAS. I'M. I'M SORRY. I'M WRONG NAMES. THERE WAS ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER JENKINS WHO CHIMED IN. I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT. WHAT ABOUT ME? THIS IS JUST THROWING ME LIKE CRAZY BECAUSE IT SHOWS UP AS COUNCIL LADY BEARD, YOU KNOW? SO. AND I'M HAVING TO CONVERT MY MIND. NO WORRIES, MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WITH A CONSIDERATION FOR A 30 YEAR SUV. HOW MANY? 30, 30? 30. IS THAT? IS THAT TOO HIGH? WHAT, 2025? I THOUGHT YOU SAID THREE YEARS. WELL WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A MOTION STARTED. IS THAT IS THAT YOUR COMPLETE MOTION AND OUT OF COURTESY, COMMISSIONER PARRISH YOU GET THE SECOND. OKAY. AND WE'RE NOW IN DISCUSSION MODE. COMMISSIONER ROSE. NO. NO DISCUSSION. I WAS I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. I JUST WAS GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY. AND THEN. OH, COME ON, STAFF. WHICH ONES? WHICH. COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. WHO'S WANTING TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW OKAY OKAY. GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER ABEL. LET ME. I'M. OKAY. GO. HAVE IT ON RECORD. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I WAS I'M GLAD THAT I. WE GOT SOME MORE CLARITY AROUND AN ALIGNMENT THAT THE APPLICANT IS OKAY WITH THE SGP CHANGE, BECAUSE TYPICALLY THE SGP GOES WITH LAND. AND IF THE OWNER CHANGES. SO AND THIS IS NEW. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE UPDATE TO THE SGP TO THE 30 YEAR TIMELINE. THAT'S IT OKAY.

THANKS. COMMISSIONER ABEL I THINK YOU'RE STILL ALIVE. THAT'S ME. THAT'S YOU. OKAY, COMMISSIONER ABEL, I'M SORRY. WE'RE ALL LEARNING TOGETHER TO GET THESE NAMES STRAIGHT ON ON THE BOARD FOR ME, ESPECIALLY THIS MIND. MY, MY ONLY DISCUSSION WOULD BE SINCE THE SUP GOES WITH THE LAND, WOULD ANYBODY BE AMICABLE TO DOING IT FOR 20 YEARS TO MIRROR THEIR LEASE? COMMISSIONER JENKINS. SO WE HEARD THE APPLICANT MENTION THAT NOT NOT THAT I'M INTIMATELY OPPOSED TO THE IDEA. WE HEARD THE APPLICANT MENTION SPECIFICALLY THAT HE HAD TWO EXTENSIONS WITHIN THE CURRENT YEAR, 10 TO 5. YEAH, I SUSPECT THAT THERE ARE OTHER THE PROPERTY'S OWNER MAY BE MORE WILLING TO DO A VERY SPECIFIC TIME FRAME AND TO ENCOURAGE THAT CONTINUED ACTIVITY. THE 30 YEAR WITHIN PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE TO THE OWNER TO CONTINUE THAT LEASE AFTER THE AFTER THE. I'M ON BOARD WITH YOU AND I IF WE COULD CONSIDER THEM THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT. I'M JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR THOUGHTS. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. SO IF WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THE CONTINUED RELATIONSHIP AND USE OF THIS APPLICANT ON THAT PROPERTY, THEN. OKAY, I'LL SIT HERE AND BE QUIET. OKAY. WELL, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE QUIET TILL I FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THEIR MICS. OKAY. ANY OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE 30 YEAR SUP. AND THAT'S THE SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? BY RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT VOTE IS UNANIMOUS TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. AND IT IS NOW 729. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF JUNE 23RD, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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