* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. MEETING OF [00:00:01] THE ANIMAL [ NOTICE OF MEETING CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE Work Session Room of City Hall 200 N. Fifth Street Garland, Texas May 30, 2025 at 1:00 p.m. A meeting of the Animal Services Advisory Committee of the City of Garland, Texas will be held on May 30, 2025 at 1:00 p.m. at 200 N. Fifth Street, in the Work Session Room, Garland, Texas.] SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ORDER. UM, HOW ABOUT, UH, MINUTES TO THE LAST MEETING? DO YOU HAVE THOSE? THEY SHOULD BE IN YOUR, IN YOUR BINDER. MY, IS IT NOT ON? YOUR MIC IS ON. THIS IS SO FANCY. I CAN'T GET OVER IT. UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT 'EM? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT 'EM? HOW ABOUT A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM? I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MEETINGS. SECOND. FIVE MINUTES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHTY. LET'S SEE. UM, UH, ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE HOUSE RULES? OUR SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. UM, MY COMMENTS ARE OFF THE, OFF THE CUFF. SO, UM, UH, THIS IS MY SECRETARY . UM, SO I GUESS, UM, IS ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK? WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. DR. ONE SPEAKER. TWO. TWO. TWO. TWO. TWO SPEAKERS. WE'VE GOT A MEETING IN THERE. YEAH. COME ON BY. ARE WE HAVING A FIRE? NO, SIR. NO, NO. FIRE. OH, EXCUSE BEHIND YOU. I DIDN'T HEAR THE FIRE WHISTLE. SO IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, ARE THE SPEAKERS HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? NOT ON THE AGENDA. NOT ON THE AGENDA. THEN, THEN THAT HAS TO BE AT THE END OF THE MEETING. ROBERT, YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. SO THEN THAT SPEAKER WILL COME UP HERE. MM-HMM . PRESENT HIS TESTIMONY. AND THEN AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THEN THE SECOND SPEAKER WILL HAVE HER OPPORTUNITY. DID YOU FILL OUT A CARD? YES. YEP. OKAY. UH, MY NAME'S ROBERT KA. I LIVE IN 1821 LESTER STREET, GARLAND, 7 5 0 4 4. UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THE WILDLIFE TRAPPING. UH, UNDERSTAND THAT THE STAFF IS GONNA PR MAKE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THAT. AND I HOPE THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING TO INCLUDE THAT TRAPPED ANIMALS NOT BE RELEASED IN ANY OF THE GARLAND PARKS OR PRESERVES. UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE DOING THEM A FAVOR. THEY'RE NOT. YOU'RE RELEASING ANIMALS THAT DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR SOURCE OF FOOD, WATER, OR SHELTER IS, AND THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA BE WELCOME IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE OTHER ANIMALS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THERE. UH, I KNOW A LOT OF, A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS FEEL THESE ARE NUISANCES. QUIT FEEDING THEM. THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. ARE WE READY FOR THE SPEAKER? NO, NO. THE NEXT, UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDA. ALRIGHT. UM, THE REVIEW OF, UH, SHELTER OPERATIONS. IS THAT YOU JUSTIN? THAT IS ME, JUSTIN CRAFT ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER. I WILL REVIEW OUR NUMBERS FOR, UH, MARCH AND APRIL. UM, SO FOR MARCH AND APRIL, OUR VISITORS WERE ONE. YOU, MIKE ON. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THERE WE GO. IS THAT BETTER? YEAH. OUR VISITORS FOR MARCH AND APRIL WERE 1,318. UM, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WE RESPONDED TO 3,328, UM, CALLS FOR STRAY ANIMALS RESULTED IN 1,502, UH, CRUELTY CALLS. WE HAD 32, UH, TOTALING IN ONE ANIMAL THAT WAS SEIZED. UH, OUR CALL RESPONSE TIMES FOR THE TWO MONTHS COMBINED WERE 25.91 MINUTES. THAT'S NOW, THAT'S UP, ISN'T IT? THAT'S FOR A PRIORITY. ONE RESPONSE TIME. THAT IS AN INCREASE. UM, LIVE RELEASE RATE FOR MARCH AND APRIL WAS 98.47. UH, ANIMALS RECLAIMED BY OWNERS. WE HAD 160 ANIMALS ADOPTED WERE 247, UH, ANIMALS PULLED BY RESCUE GROUPS WAS 363 AND TNR STERILIZATIONS WERE 87 TOTAL FOR THOSE TWO MONTHS. SNR, WHICH ARE IN-HOUSE STERILIZATIONS FOR COMMUNITY CATS WERE 111. UM, AND THEN DOGS DEEMED DANGEROUS. WE HAD ONE. OKAY. LET'S SEE. UH, REVIEW OF ANIMAL SERVICES COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM. CHRISTIE? YES. OKAY. SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO MENTION SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR MARCH AND APRIL FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH. [00:05:01] UM, SO, UM, WE DID PARTICIPATE IN THE MEGA ADOPTION EVENT. UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY IN DALLAS. IT WAS THE FIRST MEGA ADOPTION EVENT IN DALLAS AT KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER. UM, WE PARTNERED WITH PETCO LOVE AND THE MAIN SOCIETY OF NORTH TEXAS. WE WERE ABLE TO GET 13 DOGS ADOPTED WITHIN THOSE TWO DAYS. UM, WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE TO DO AN ADOPTION EVENT. WE CALLED IT PUPPY PARTY ON THE SQUARE. SO WE HAD ADOPTABLE DOGS, WE ALSO HAD VENDORS. AND THEN, UM, BEN ALSO DID ANOTHER LEMONADE STAND. UM, AND WE ENDED UP HAVING SEVEN DOGS ADOPTED, AND BEN RAISED $473 FOR THE SHELTER. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL STORY ABOUT A CAT THAT CAME INTO OUR SHELTER. SO IT WAS ACTUALLY CAUGHT IN A TRAP SHELTER. STAFF SCANNED THE CAT, FOUND OUT, HAD A MICROCHIP. THE NUMBER FOR THE OWNER WAS ACTUALLY CURRENT, SO THEY REACHED OUT TO THE OWNER. SHE HAD ACTUALLY MOVED TO FLORIDA AND SHE WANTED HER CAT BACK. SO WE ACTUALLY COORDINATED WITH SWAT TO GET THE CAT FLOWN TO HER. SO A FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS VOLUNTEER, TRANSPORTED THE PET TO THE AIRPORT. AND THEN THEY HAVE, UM, AN ASSIGNED INDIVIDUAL, A VOLUNTEER WITH THEM THAT ACTUALLY FLIES WITH THE PET. AND THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THE PET REUNITED WITH THE OWNER. UM, WE ALSO HAD A KITTEN ACADEMY, WHICH WE PARTNERED WITH OPERATION KINDNESS. AND WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP WITH A REALLY GREAT TURNOUT. WE HAD ABOUT 30 ATTENDEES THAT CAME AND LEARNED ALL ABOUT BOTTLE FEEDING. UM, AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY WORKING ON BUILDING UP MORE BOTTLE BABY FOSTERS BECAUSE , UM, WE KIND OF GET RUSHES WITH LITTLE BOTTLE BABIES THAT COME IN. UM, SO WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO BUILD UP THOSE BOTTLE BABY FOSTERS. UM, AND THEN WE DID ALSO DO, UM, MORE PET PAINTINGS FOR OUR SHELTER DOGS. SO NOT ONLY DOES IT HELP PROMOTE OUR ADOPTABLE DOGS, BUT IT ALSO, UM, WE FUNDRAISE, SO WE AUCTION OFF THE PAINTINGS. UM, SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING REALLY FUN THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO. UM, PERSONALLY ENJOYED IT. UM, WE DID ALSO PARTICIPATE IN A, UM, TRUNK AND HUNT. SO IT WAS KINDA LIKE AN EASTER THEMED EVENT WITH THE CITY. SO WE HAD A TABLE WITH FLYERS, UM, AND THERE WAS ABOUT 300, UM, ATTENDEES AT THAT EVENT. SO WE WERE ABLE TO OUTREACH WITH A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE. UM, AND THEN WE DID ALSO HAVE ANOTHER READING TO PETS AND WE HAD AN AMAZING RESPONSE TO THAT EVENT. SO I PUT OUT THE EVENT FOR REGISTRATION AND I ENDED UP HAVING 60 KIDS REQUEST TO COME AND USUALLY DO 20. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE DID TWO SESSIONS, SO WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE 40 KIDS FOR THAT EVENT. UM, SO YOU HAVE THESE ANIMALS, PRIMARILY DOGS, I GUESS ANY CATS FOR, FOR THE READING THE PETS. SO WE DO HAVE THE KIDS GO INTO OUR ADOPTABLE CAT AREA AS WELL AND THEY GET TO ALSO READ TO THE CATS. YEAH. YES. AND WE KIND OF GIVE THE KIDS A CHOICE ON IF THEY WANNA READ TO A DOG OR A CAT. SO THE KIDS REALLY LOVE IT. AND THE LIBRARY ACTUALLY, UM, LETS US BORROW BOOKS SO THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL BOOKS FOR THE KIDS TO READ TO THE PETS AS WELL. AND THEN I DID WANNA MENTION OUR COMMUNITY TASK FORCE. SO WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO GO OUT EVERY WEDNESDAY AND THEY GO DOOR TO DOOR IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY JUST CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE 'EM WITH INFORMATION. UM, THEY WERE HANDING OUT FLYERS THIS WEEK THAT WITH THE PHOTO, UM, FOR THE DEHART VETERINARY SERVICES, WHICH IS THAT NEW PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE FOR LOW COST SPAN NEUTER THAT'S DONE, UM, THROUGH THEIR MOBILE UNIT AT OUR SHELTER. SO THEY WERE TRYING TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ABOUT THAT RESOURCE FOR LOW COST SPAY AND NEUTER. 'CAUSE I KNOW IT CAN BE HARD TO GET THOSE SERVICES. UM, 'CAUSE A LOT OF PLACES BOOK UP SO QUICKLY. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH A REALTOR. UM, IT'S PURPLE TEA PROPERTIES. AND FOR EVERY HOME THAT THEY SELL, THEY'RE GONNA BE SPONSORING THE ADOPTION FEE FOR FOUR OF OUR SHELTER DOGS. AND THEY'VE ALREADY, UM, SOLD A HOME AND SPONSORED FOUR ADOPTION FEES SO FAR. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT PARTNERSHIP IN THE FUTURE. UM, WE'VE ALSO CONTINUED TO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY CAP FREE SPAY NEUTER DAYS EVERY MONTH. UM, AND WE'VE PARTNERED WITH OPERATION KINDNESS ON SEVERAL OF THOSE. AND THEN, UM, MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE GONNA BE HANDLING THOSE EVENTS, UM, WITH OUR SHELTER VET. AND, UM, FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS ALSO SUPPORTS US FOR THAT EVENT AS WELL. SO WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE SURGERIES FOR COMMUNITY CATS FOR CITY OF ETTE AND CITY OF GARLAND RESIDENTS. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO DID EASTER PHOTOS FOR OUR SHELTER DOGS WITH CLOUD NINE, CLOUD NINE PHOTOGRAPHY. SO THEY COME IN AND TOOK THESE REALLY CUTE PICTURES OF OUR SHELTER DOGS [00:10:01] TO HELP US PROMOTE THEM. AND THEN MY LAST ITEM IS THE GRAND BONANZA. SO IT'S OUR EVENT THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR TO CELEBRATE THE OPENING OF OUR NEW SHELTER. SO THIS YEAR WAS THREE YEARS SINCE THE NEW SHELTER OPENED. UM, SO WE HAD ABOUT 300 ATTENDEES. UM, WE HAD A VACCINE CLINIC, WHICH THEY SAW 77 PETS. WE ALSO HAD A FE PET FOOD PANTRY, WHICH, UM, 194 PEOPLE AND 303 PETS PARTICIPATED IN THAT. UM, WE HAD EIGHT STAFF AND 20 FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMAL VOLUNTEERS THAT HELPED US SUPPORT THAT EVENT. UM, AND THEN BEN DID ANOTHER LEMONADE STAND AND HE RAISED $665. UM, SO IT WAS A REALLY GREAT EVENT AND GREAT TURNOUT. WHAT DID YOU TATTOO 'EM WITH? WHAT NUMBER OR ANYTHING? WHAT TATTOO DID YOU, DID I NOT TATTOO? NO . NO, I DIDN'T SAY TATTOO . HEY, EASY. I HATE HEARING THAT. . WE DID PAW PRINT TATTOOS AT THE EVENT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE . THEY WERE JUST TEMPORARY TATTOOS. SAW. YEAH. , MY HEARING AIDS AND YOUR VOICE ARE NOT CONNECTED. OKAY, GOTCHA. OKAY. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUTREACH? OKAY. Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, I THINK IT ALREADY KNOWS THAT THIS IS CHRISTIE'S LAST MEETING AND LAST DAY WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER. I WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY THANK HER FOR THE AMAZING JOB THAT SHE'S DONE. NOPE. I'M ONE OF MY, YOU ARE GONNA BE AMAZED. I KNOW I'VE TOLD YOU THAT SEVERAL TIMES, BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A MANAGER FIVE YEARS AGO, SIX YEARS AGO, WHATEVER THAT WAS, I LOOK BACK AND I TOOK, AND I, COMPARED TO WHAT CHRISTIE AND I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO OVER THE YEARS, IT'S LIKE DAY AND NIGHT, UH, THE WAY WE ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, THE PARTNERSHIPS, HOW MUCH WE'VE, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSPORTS, THE IMPACT THAT WE'VE MADE ON ANIMALS AND THE COMMUNITY. IT'S UNLIKE ANYTHING THAT I IMAGINE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. SO YOU JUST WANTED TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REALLY RECOGNIZE, UH, THE HARD WORK THAT, THAT CHRISTIE HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS AND TO REMIND HER THAT WE'RE GONNA MISS HER, BUT WE'RE VERY HAPPY FOR HER. YES. YES. THANK YOU. NOW, LET ME SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE GET INVOLVED. THERE'S TWO MEN HERE THAT I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE. JU AND ART ARE TWO OF THE BEST DIRECTORS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH AND I'VE WORKED WITH SEVEN. AND THE NEW ONE, IF I HANG ON, WILL BE EIGHT. THESE GUYS HAVE DONE YEOMAN WORK FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND AND THE POUND, INCLUDING CHRISTIE. OKAY. SO I, YOU GUYS, NOW, I WON'T SAY WHO'S NUMBER ONE. IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND HAVE A BATTLE OR WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. . YEAH. OH MY GOODNESS. BUT ANYWAY, Y'ALL REALLY, UH, I'M SERIOUS. THE, THE, UH, UH, PROGRAM JUST BALLOONED AFTER Y'ALL STARTED. I'M SERIOUS ABOUT THAT. YEAH. OKAY, JOB. THANK YOU. YEP. LEMME SWITCH WITH YOU CHAIRS. ALL RIGHT. SO PET LIMITS. SO THIS HAS BEEN AN ITEM THAT HAS BEEN A STANDING ITEM FOR A FEW MONTHS, AND DURING THE APRIL MEETING, UM, STAFF WAS ASKED TO COME BACK WITH AN UPDATE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU ALL TODAY. SO, UM, WE'RE, UH, RATHER THAN JUST FOCUSING ON PET LIMITS, WE WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER AND, AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF ALL ON ALL THE DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN CHAPTER 22. THE LAST FOUR SLIDES, UH, ARE GONNA FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ITEM, WHICH IS PET LIMITS. WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY HAS IN PLACE, SOME WORK THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. UH, WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU A COMPARISON TO, TO SHOW YOU WHAT OTHER CITIES CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE PERTAINING TO THIS ITEM. WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU SOME STATISTICS. AND ON THE LAST SLIDE, WE ARE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AFTER QUESTIONS. WE ARE GONNA NEED A COMMITTEE MEMBER TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE WHATEVER'S PRESENTED BY STAFF. IF, IF YOU HAPPEN TO DISAPPROVE OR WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. UH, WE JUST NEED VERY SPECIFIC GUIDANCE AS FAR AS WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT US TO DO SO THAT WE CAN PREPARE AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU GUYS AT A FUTURE DATE. AND SO, WITH THAT, JUSTIN, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND START? UM, SO ENFORCE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS FOR ANIMAL VIOLATIONS. UM, I'M GONNA TURN THIS RIGHT HERE A LITTLE BIT SO I CAN SEE. UM, SO ANIMAL SERVICE OFFICERS AND POLICE OFFICERS WE'RE, WE'RE EMPOWERED. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO IMPOUND ANIMALS THAT ARE FOUND A NUMBER OF THINGS RUNNING AT LARGE, CREATING NUISANCES, UH, SUFFERING FROM CRUELTY, A LOT OF THOSE ANIMALS THAT WE INTAKE FROM CRUEL SITUATIONS. UM, ANY ANIMALS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN ANIMAL BITES AND ANY OTHER VIOLATIONS OF THE ORDINANCE, [00:15:01] UM, REPEAT OFFENSES, UH, A LOT OF TIMES WILL LEAD TO STRICTER ENFORCEMENT MEASURES. WE ALWAYS WANNA GIVE EVERYONE THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT INITIALLY, UM, TRY TO ISSUE A REPORT, TRY TO GIVE A COMPLIANCE STATE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, BUT THEREFORE, THEREAFTER, IF THERE CONTINUES TO BE ISSUES, WE HAVE ACTIONS AND WE HAVE TOOLS AND ORDINANCES IN PLACE TO, TO ADDRESS THOSE. UH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE REPEAT OFFENSES. UH, RECLAIM CONDITIONS. OWNERS HAVE TO PAY FEES. UM, AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS AS FAR AS VACCINATIONS, MANDATORY MICROCHIPPING, WHEN THEY COME TO GET THEIR ANIMAL OUT OF THE SHELTER. UM, AGAIN, JUST LIKE IF WE'VE NEVER HAD A COMPLAINT IN AN ADDRESS, WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES. UH, IF, IF YOU'RE FULLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH A FULLY VACCINATED, MICROCHIPPED AND STERILIZED ANIMAL, AND IT'S THE FIRST IMPOUND THAT'S A FREE IMPOUND, THEREAFTER, THOSE FEES DO CONTINUE TO GO UP EVERY IMPOUND THEREAFTER. UM, BASICALLY FOR, TO ENFORCE KEEPING YOUR PET CONTAINED. UM, SO PERMIT, REVOCATION OR DENIAL. UH, ANOTHER THING, UH, SERIOUS REPEAT VIOLATIONS, UH, INTERFERENCE WITH ANIMAL SERVICE OPERATIONS. IF YOU HAD A BREEDING PERMIT, OR IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS PERMIT AT A PROPERTY, UM, IF YOU HAVE, LET'S SAY, A GOAT, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE MEASURES IN PLACE THAT IF THERE'S HABITUAL ISSUES AT THE ADDRESS OR WITH THE INFRA, THE ADDRESS, WHATEVER MAY BE GOING ON, UM, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, ONE, DENY A PERMIT IF SOMEONE APPLIES FOR A PERMIT FOR BREEDING OR WHATEVER ELSE IT MAY BE. UH, AND TWO, IF YOU WERE A CITIZEN THAT HAD A PERMIT AND THERE'S CONSTANT INFRACTIONS OR CONSTANT VIOLATIONS, WE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO REVOKE THAT PERMIT AS WELL. UM, YEP. AND AS FAR AS DANGEROUS ANIMALS, UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BULLET POINTS OR PORTIONS OF OUR DEFINITION THAT MEET THE DEFINITION OF A DANGEROUS ANIMAL. UM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE AN ANIMAL THAT ATTACKED ANOTHER ANIMAL OR PERSON, UH, WITH OR WITHOUT PROVOCATION ON TWO OR MORE OCCASIONS INVOLVED IN AN INCIDENT THAT COULD MEET THE DEFINITION. UM, IT, IT COULD BE BY, JUST BY ITS ACTS TO CONDUCT DANGEROUS PROPENSITIES, SNARLING, GROWLING, RAISE, HACKLES, POPPING OF THE TEETH, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND SO WE TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS FAR AS IF THERE ARE VIOLATIONS, HABITUAL HISTORIES, EVEN IF THE ANIMAL WASN'T NECESSARILY INVOLVED IN A SITUATION WHERE IT ATTACKED ANOTHER PERSON OR ANIMAL. WE STILL HAVE THE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS TO REMOVE THAT ANIMAL. AND THEN, UH, CRIMINAL PENALTIES, CITATIONS AND FEES. UH, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO ISSUE CITATIONS TO CITIZENS THAT ARE IN VIOLATION. UM, RE UH, REPEAT OR SERIOUS OFFENSES. WE CAN ESCALATE OR COULD BE ESCALATED TO CRIMINAL CHARGES, UH, DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION, UH, IF SOMEONE IS NEGLIGENT AND WITH THEIR ANIMAL AND IT LEADS TO SOMEONE BEING SERIOUSLY INJURED. UM, ANIMAL CRUELTY SITUATIONS, PROHIBITED ANIMALS, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. UH, EVEN OWNERS THAT ARE RECLAIMING ANIMALS LIKE WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, THEY, THEY DO HAVE INCREMENTAL FEES THAT GO UP EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT THE ANIMAL IS IMPOUNDED. ALRIGHT, SO ALONG WITH EVERYTHING THAT JUSTIN JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC TO RESTRICTING THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT A, THAT A HOMEOWNER CAN HAVE. SO, SECTION, UH, 22.2, ONE OF THE CITY ORDINANCE DOES, DOES GIVE THE, THE ANIMAL SERVICES SUPERVISOR THE AUTHORITY TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS. HOWEVER, IT HAS TO MEET A SPECIFIC RE REQUIREMENT. AND THAT IS THAT IT HAS TO HAPPEN AT LEAST THREE TIMES WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD. THAT COULD BE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE SOMETIMES. SO, UM, SINCE THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, LAST MONTH, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO GET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO AMEND THIS SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE SO THAT THE SUPERVISOR OF ANIMAL SERVICES CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS ON THE FIRST OFFENSE IF IT'S WARRANTED. UM, SOME OF THE TRIGGERS THAT THE, THAT, UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS, THE, THE, OR SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT TRIGGER, UH, THIS ACTION IS OBVIOUSLY THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS PRESENT, UH, THE SIZE OF EACH ANIMAL, THE CONDITION OF THE ANIMAL, THE TYPE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHETHER OR NOT THE OWNER IS ABLE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE CARE FOR THOSE ANIMALS. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE IS THAT IT ONLY TARGETS IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS. MEANING IF YOU HAVE 10 DOGS, 10 GERMAN SHEPHERDS, BUT YOU ARE A RESPONSIBLE PET OWNER, THIS DOESN'T AFFECT YOU. HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE TWO DOGS AND THEY'RE ALWAYS GETTING OUT, THEY'RE ALWAYS CHASING PEOPLE. YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE THIS ORDINANCE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A PET LIMIT IN THE CITY OF GARLAND. AND THIS IS A COMPARISON TO SHOW YOU GUYS WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE IN PLACE. UH, THE CITIES THAT WE USE ARE THE, ARE ARE KNOWN AS THE MARKET CITIES FOR THE CITIES OF GARLAND. THESE ARE THE CITIES THAT WE USE FOR ALL TYPE OF COMPARISONS. WHENEVER THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT IS, [00:20:01] IS LOOKING TO DO A COMPENSATION ANALYSIS, THESE ARE THE CITIES THAT THEY LOOK AT WHEN POLICE WANTS TO DO SOME TYPE OF COMPARISON. THESE ARE THE CITIES THAT THEY LOOK AT AS WELL. SO FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES, WE DECIDED TO USE THE SAME CITIES. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THERE ARE THREE CITIES THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY TYPE OF, UH, LIMITS ON PETS. AND THOSE ARE ARLINGTON GARLAND AND GRAND PRAIRIE. BUT ALSO, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT IF YOU CAN SEE THERE IS NO CONSISTENCY. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO BASICALLY EVERY CITY HAS IN PLACE WHAT WORKS FOR THEM, WHICH MAKES SENSE. 'CAUSE NOT EVERY CITY IS DIFFERENT. AND HONESTLY, I THINK THAT'S THE SMART APPROACH YOU HAVE TO IMPLEMENT WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU. NOW, UM, IN CONTRAST TO, UH, SECTION 22.2, ONE OF THE, OF THE, THE CITY ORDINANCE, THIS APPLIES TO EVERYONE RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS AND IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS. THE DIFFERENCE IS, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. UH, ANY OF THE CITIES HERE, IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE, LET'S SAY, FORT WORTH, WHERE THE LIMIT IS THREE DOGS, UH, IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE FIVE, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ACTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE AS A PEN AS A PET OWNER. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP ALL FIVE. MOST OF THE TIMES IS YOU HAVE TO FILE A PERMIT, REQUEST A PERMIT, AND PAY A FEE FOR THAT. ONCE AGAIN, UH, THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT UP, UM, DURING THE APRIL MEETING. SO ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT WE STARTED DOING IS BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION, WE GOTTA HAVE SOME STATISTICS, RIGHT? WE GOTTA HAVE SOME DATA THAT WILL BACK UP OR SUPPORT THE DECISION THAT WE'RE MAKING. SO WE STARTED TRACKING THE NUMBER OF CALLS SPECIFICALLY FOR EXCESSIVE ANIMALS. SO DURING THE MONTHS OF APRIL AND MAY, WE RECEIVED 3,300 CALLS, UH, 122 ES ASSIST SERVICE ORDERS. SO THAT'S CLOSE TO 3,500 CALLS. OUTTA THOSE ONLY FIVE WERE CALLS WHERE PEOPLE SAID, HEY, THERE'S TOO MANY ANIMALS AT THIS HOUSE. SO WE INVESTIGATED THOSE FIVE CALLS AND ONLY ONE ACTUALLY WAS IN VIOLATION. AND THAT ONE HOUSE ENDED UP SURRENDERING THE NINE CATS THAT THEY HAD. UH, SOME OF THE OTHER STATISTICS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, WE IMPOUNDED 1300 ANIMALS. WE ISSUED, UH, 52 INSPECTION REPORTS AND 69 CITATIONS. SO BASED ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE, UM, OR ONGOING WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE STATISTICS THAT YOU GUYS JUST LOOKED AT, AT THIS POINT, WE DO NOT FEEL WE'RE JUSTIFIED IN IMPLEMENTING A CITYWIDE PET LIMIT. SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM. NOW KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT WHERE WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TRACKING EXCESSIVE ANIMALS, UH, CALLS FOR EXCESSIVE ANIMALS. IF WE SEE THAT THIS BECOMES A PROBLEM, THEN THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE US COME BACK TO YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT SO THAT WE CAN, UH, IMPLEMENT, UH, SOME TYPE OF RESTRICTION. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANNA MENTION IS WE ARE WORKING ON A HEAT MAP. AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ART STARTED WORKING ON BEFORE HE LEFT. AND WHAT THAT IS, IS, IS GONNA, IT'S PICTURE A MAP THAT'S GONNA SHOW, UH, UM, A NUMBER OF CALLS. AND IF WE IDENTIFY SPECIFIC ERRORS WITHIN THE CITY WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF CALLS, THEN WE'RE GONNA REALLOCATE RESOURCES OR MORE RESOURCES TO THOSE AREAS AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO, UH, REDUCE THOSE NUMBERS. UH, CHRISTIE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, UH, DURING HER PRESENTATION, THAT WE HAVE A COMMUNITY OUTREACH TEAM. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING ON WEDNESDAYS AS WELL. THAT ONCE WE IDENTIFY THIS PROBLEM AREAS, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA SEND THEM. UH, WE HAVE NOTICED THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE. UH, WE, WE ARE SHIFTING FROM ENFORCEMENT TO COMPLIANCE AND I TO BE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S THE GOAL. UM, AND ONCE AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL END THIS WITH, UM, WE, UM, WE HAVE SOME THINGS IN CHAPTER 22 THAT DON'T NECESSARILY MATCH THE CURRENT OPERATION. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING OPPORTUNITY IN THIS SUMMER. WE'RE DOING A FULL REVISION OF CHAPTER 22 SO THAT THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY MATCHES THE CURRENT OPERATION. WHY DID Y'ALL FEEL IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS NOW? I MEAN, WHAT, WHY DON'T WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE, WELL, IT'S THE, THE STATISTICS, THE, THE NUMBERS, JUST, IT WOULD BE HARD TO JUSTIFY. UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ONLY TWO MONTHS WORTH OF DATA. OKAY? IT'S CLOSE TO 3,500 CALLS, AND ONLY ONE OF THOSE ACTUALLY WAS A PROBLEM. THERE WAS ONLY ONE TRUE VIOLATION OUT 3,500. NOW, KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT'S CITYWIDE, THAT'S GONNA AFFECT ALSO YOUR RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UM, IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT, UM, IT'S NOT VERY BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE BECAUSE LET'S SAY THAT WE IMPLEMENT THAT WE [00:25:01] IMPLEMENT A PET LIMIT, RIGHT? LET'S SAY IT'S THREE DOGS AND THREE CATS, AND I'M JUST THROWING OUT A NUMBER. WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT DOGS AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS AND THEY'VE HAD THE ANTS THAT WERE PUPPIES, AND NOW THE KIDS ARE ATTACHED TO THOSE DOGS. UM, ARE YOU GONNA MAKE 'EM SURRENDER THOSE DOGS? ARE YOU GONNA FORCE 'EM TO GET RID OF 'EM? AND, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GONNA CHOOSE WHICH ONES THEY GET RID OF? SO ONCE AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, IF, IF THE NUMBERS WERE, LET'S SAY OUT OF 3,500, I DON'T KNOW, 40, 50% OF THOSE WERE ACTUALLY PROBLEM HOUSES OR, OR, OR CALLS FOR EXCESSIVE ANIMALS, THEN I THINK WE'RE JUSTIFIED IN, IN MOVING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT RESTRICTIVE, UH, WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDED INSTEAD. LIKE I SAID, UH, THIS IS NOT PERMANENT. THIS IS JUST WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR NOW, IS THAT WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TRACKING THIS, OKAY? AND IF THE DATA WARRANTS THAT WE COME BACK TO Y'ALL AND PRESENT A DIFFERENT APPROACH, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. BUT BASED ON THE LIMITED DATA THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY ORDINANCE AND THE POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS COMING UP PRETTY SOON TO SECTION 22 POINT 21, WE FEEL THAT THAT'S GONNA BE SUFFICIENT FOR NOW. IT, THIS COULD VERY WELL CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, WITHOUT A DOUBT. WHEN WE GET A NEW DIRECTOR, UM, IT COULD BE SOMEONE THAT COMES FROM A CITY WHERE THEY HAVE PET LIMITS, HAS VERY STRONG DATA, AND MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, LISTEN, I WANT TO IMPLEMENT THIS. SO THIS IS BY NO MEANS END OF THE STORY, BUT AT THIS POINT, THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF BASED ON THE STATISTICS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. SO I THINK WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED THE FIRST TIME, UH, THE IDEA WAS IT WAS TO HELP WITH ENFORCEMENT THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE SOMETHING SO THAT THERE WAS A WAY TO ENFORCE. BUT ARE YOU SAYING AFTER TALKING TO THE LAWYERS THAT WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCES, YOU CAN USE THAT FOR ENFORCEMENT? IS THAT THE KEY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CORRECT. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT BECAUSE ONE, ONCE AGAIN, UH, SECTION 22 POINT 21, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE THIRD VIOLATION WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. THE, THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THAT SECTION WILL ACTUALLY ALLOW US TO TAKE ACTION ON THE FIRST VIOLATION IF IT'S WARRANTED. SO THE PENDING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT YOU HAVE UP THERE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD TO THAT SECTION, CORRECT. TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT DOES WHAT WE WANT IT TO DO WITHOUT HAVING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PETS? CORRECT. AND IF YOU DO THIS, THEN ONCE AGAIN, WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT WILL ONLY TARGET IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS, WHICH IS THE GOAL TO BEGIN WITH, WHICH IS THE GOAL TO BEGIN WITH. SO WHEN YOU GET A CALL AND YOU GO OUT THERE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE CURRENT VACCINATIONS OR SPAY NEUTERED, DO YOU ENFORCE ALL THAT ON THESE CALLS OR, YES. YOU DO? OKAY. IN EVERY CALL. DO YOU HAVE LONGER TERM DATA, HISTORICAL DATA? IS THAT, NO. SO, SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UM, UM, UM, THIS, THIS WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE APRIL MEETING, SO GOT WITH THE STAFF AND WE STARTED TRACKING THIS SPECIFICALLY. UM, I TOLD, UH, OR OR FIELD STAFF, WHENEVER YOU GET A CALL FOR EITHER TOO MANY ANIMALS, EXCESSIVE ANIMALS, ANYTHING ABOVE ANYTHING MORE THAN SIX ANIMALS, LET'S START CAPTURING THAT DATA. SO, SO NO. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE, WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON THE DATA. I WILL ONLY HAVE TWO MONTHS, BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE ROAD. UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TRACKING THIS. AND IF, UH, IF THE, IF THE BOARD WANTS US TO KIND OF, UH, SET THIS ASIDE FOR NOW, UH, AND COME BACK TO YOU IN SIX MONTHS, OR AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN YOU, WHEN WE HAVE AT LEAST SIX MONTHS WORTH OF DATA, UH, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL. BUT FOR NOW, THE RECOMMENDATION IS, IS JUST BASICALLY TAKE NO ACTION AND, AND, AND LIVE IT THE WAY IT IS. DID THE STAFF SUGGEST A PERCENTAGE OF CALLS FOR WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED? SO LIKE IF YOU, A YEAR FROM NOW, IF WE'RE STILL TRACKING THIS AND IT COMES UP WITH, YOU KNOW, 10% OF OUR CALLS ARE EXCESSIVE ANIMALS, DO WE TAKE ACTION THEN, OR DO WE WAIT UNTIL IT'S SOMETHING MORE LIKE 50%, WHICH IS THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE? YEAH, SO EVERY WEDNESDAY WE HAVE A, A MEETING WITH THE, THE FIELD OFFICERS AND WE ASK FOR FEEDBACK ON EVERY MEETING. SO IF WE GET TO THE POINT THAT IT'S, IT'S BECOMING A PROBLEM, THEN ABSOLUTELY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE SHOULD RECONSIDER AND BRING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR, FOR A DIFFERENT OPTION. OKAY. SO WE CAN APPROVE IT WITH THE OPTION TO RECONSIDER IN THE FUTURE, IF NOT NECESSARY. UH, YEAH, UH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, IF, IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE END OF THE YEAR SO THAT, SO THAT WE HAVE, UH, SIX, SEVEN MONTHS WORTH OF DATA, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UH, IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT NINE TO 12 MONTHS WORTH OF DATA. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S [00:30:01] SOMETHING I I WOULD RECOMMEND A YEAR. 'CAUSE IF THIS IS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE CASE OUT OF 3,300 IN TWO MONTHS, YOU'RE GONNA NEED AT LEAST A YEAR DATA TO EVEN REMOTELY GET CORRECT. ANY VALUE. AND HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A FLIP OF THE COIN. I MEAN, UH, IT JUST HAPPENED THAT WE ONLY GOT FIVE CALLS AND ONLY ONE OF THOSE WAS AN ACTUAL VIOLATION. BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE. YEAH, I MEAN, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE Y'ALL CONTINUE TRACKING THAT DATA AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THAT EIGHT MONTHS TO A YEAR. OKAY. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT. AND I KNOW I WAS INVOLVED IN, IN LOOKING AT THIS AS WELL. 'CAUSE YOU LOOK AT 8, 10, 15 DOGS ON A PROPERTY, THEY'RE NOT IRRESPONSIBLE TO TAKING CARE OF 'EM. BUT YOU LOOK AT THE NUISANCE CALLS AS WELL FROM DOGS BARKING, OTHER THINGS THAT MAY HAPPEN, I THINK LONG-TERM DATA, WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE. THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO ISSUE A PET LIMIT. UM, BUT I KNOW I WOULD LIKE TO, AT YOU, EVEN FROM THE CRUELTY STANDPOINT, LOOKING BACK AT THE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY WARRANTS WE WERE DOING, SEIZING 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 ANIMALS. YEAH. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A PET LIMIT, YOU LOOK LONG TERM. LONG TERM IS THOSE ARE GONNA BE ANIMAL HOARDING CASES, RIGHT. AND TRYING TO LOOK AT THAT DATA. UM, YOU LOOK AT THE CITIES THAT, UH, ARE COMPARABLE TO US. HOW MANY WERE THERE? THERE'S LIKE 10 OR 12, UH, 12, 12, 13, INCLUDING GARLAND. YOU KNOW, SO REALLY THERE'S ONLY TWO OTHER CITIES THAT'S INCLUDING US WILL BE THREE THAT DON'T HAVE A PET LIMIT. CORRECT. SO EACH CITY HAS A PET LIMIT FOR A REASON. AND I THINK YOU LOOK AT LONG TERM, AND RIGHT NOW CAPACITY IS AN ISSUE EVERYWHERE. YEAH. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF MY, MY CONCERNS IS THE CAPACITY ISSUES. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY IT WAS BROUGHT UP. AND I, I'M TALKING WITH THE OFFICERS TOO. THEY WERE FRUSTRATED OF GOING TO THESE HOUSES THAT HAVE SO MANY DOGS. UM, BUT NO, I THINK THE, THE NUMBERS LOOK GOOD. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD DATA TO HAVE. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT LONG TERM. YEAH. WE, WE LIKE THAT APPROACH. OBVIOUSLY THE MORE DATA THAT WE HAVE, THE BETTER DECISIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE. SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COMMITTEE, WE WILL COME BACK IN PROBABLY CLOSER TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, HAVE AT LEAST SEVEN MONTHS WORTH OF DATA AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. AND KEEP IN MIND THAT IF WE COME BACK AND THERE'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE, WE CAN PUSH IT OUT TO 12 MONTHS. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE ROAD. THE DECISION RIGHT NOW IS BASICALLY TO TABLE THE ITEM. IT DOESN'T GO AWAY. IT DOESN'T DISAPPEAR. WE'RE JUST SETTING US, SETTING IT ASIDE, UH, WAITING FOR MORE DATA. YEAH. AND, AND I AGREE. AND I DO LIKE THE AMENDMENT ON THE CITY ORDINANCE. I'D LIKE TO SEE DATA ON THAT TOO. ONE, WHEN Y'ALL IMPLEMENT THAT. BUT TWO, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE Y'ALL ACTUALLY DOING? THAT'D BE REALLY GOOD TO HAVE. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. GOOD FEEDBACK. REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THE REVISION THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON? I'M GONNA SEND MY COMMENTS PROBABLY NEXT WEEK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WHAT YOU SEE, UM, ON HERE RIGHT NOW. I'VE ALREADY GOT THIS APPROVED THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE IT WITH THE ENTIRE REVISIONS OF CHAPTER 22, WHICH IS A LOT MORE COMPREHENSIVE. BUT THE GOAL IS TO DO IT THIS SUMMER. OKAY. YEAH. TELL TELL MARK, HURRY UP. SUMMER'S COMING. WE, WE GOTTA HAVE IT. ARE UM, I MEAN, ARE YOU PLANNING TO BRING THAT REVISION TO, TO THE BOARD FOR REVIEWING COMMENT AS WELL? OR IS IT JUST SOMETHING INTERNAL? NO, THAT'S SOMETHING INTERNAL. NOW WE CAN, I'M TRYING TO THINK. UM, I MEAN, IT, IT SEEMS IF WE'RE GONNA BE, I MEAN THE BOARD WAS INVOLVED IN THIS POTENTIAL CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE. I'M KIND OF WONDERING WHY THE BOARD WOULDN'T SEE ALL OF THE CHANGES TO THE ANIMAL ORDINANCE. IS THIS THE ONLY AMENDMENT THEY'RE MAKING THOUGH? 'CAUSE IT'S THE ONLY ONE LISTED AS PENDING. THERE, THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE CHANGING, BUT BASICALLY, LIKE I SAID, UH, THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. UM, SOME OF THE FEES, SOME OF THE FEES THAT ARE ON THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE CITY ORDINANCE DON'T MATCH WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY CHARGING. OKAY? SO THOSE ARE MINOR. THIS IS THE, THE ONLY ONE THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON OPERATIONS OR CITIZENS. OR CITIZENS. CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE? 2008 WAS THE LAST REVISION OF THE ORDINANCES. UM, AND SO A LOT OF THE THINGS WERE CHANGING OR THINGS THAT AREN'T IMPLEMENTED. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, DINA, UM, LET ME DO, LET ME CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS BOARD HAS, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THE AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON AN ORDINANCE REVISION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE ROLE OF THIS COMMITTEE, BUT LET ME ASK. AND IF THEY SAY SURE, GO AHEAD AND, UH, RELEASE IT TO THEM AND, AND GET SOME FEEDBACK. JUST KNOW THAT WE'RE IN A VERY SHORT WINDOW. SO THE ODD THING IS, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT [00:35:01] ORDINANCES THAT ARE ANIMAL RELATED WOULD'VE BEEN ONE OF THE FEW THINGS WE ACTUALLY HAD THE MOST PURVIEW ON. YEAH. VERSUS DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE, THE SHELTER. 'CAUSE I MEAN, THE, THE BOARD IS SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS AND THE ORDINANCE IS APPLIED TO THE CITIZENS. SO, CORRECT. LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, WE ARE OKAY WITH, UH, WITH DOING THAT, WITH SEEKING FEEDBACK ON ORDINANCE REVISIONS FROM THIS COMMITTEE. IF THE ATTORNEY SAY, OKAY, THEN SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO REALIZE, IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT. WE CAN GIVE OUR FEEDBACK MM-HMM . BUT ULTIMATELY THEY HAVE, THEY MAKE THE DECISION. RIGHT? WELL, EVEN THIS, IT'S, IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS CHANGE, RIGHT? CITY COUNCIL'S THE ONE THAT VOTES ON THE ORDINANCE CHANGES. WE, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEND IT TO STAFF WITH THIS AMENDMENT. NO. SO FOR RIGHT NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, I MEAN, THERE'S NO MOTION NEEDED. UH, WE'RE JUST GONNA TABLE THE ITEM, OKAY? UH, AND COME BACK IN, YOU KNOW, SIX, SEVEN MONTHS TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. SO THERE'S NO MOTION NEEDED. IF LET, LET'S SAY THAT EVERYBODY WAS IN AGREEMENT, LIKE, OKAY, YEAH, WOULD YOU PRESENT IT? MAKE SENSE? LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND STOP IT RIGHT NOW AND, AND DO NOT TAKE ANY ACTION. THEN YES, SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION AND SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO SECOND IT APPROVING THE ITEM AS PRESENTED BY STAFF. AND AT THAT POINT, THAT'S THE END OF THE ROAD. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. WILDLIFE TRAPPING. YEAH. SO THIS WAS ANOTHER ITEM THAT CAME UP DURING THE APRIL MEETING. UH, I BELIEVE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER DEF, UH, IS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT IT UP AND ASKED, UH, STAFF TO COME BACK WITH, UM, WITH AN UPDATE. SO VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM. UH, WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT WE HAVE IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, UH, PERTAINING TO THIS ITEM. UH, WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU A COMPARISON TO WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU, ONCE AGAIN, SOME STATISTICS. THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS WE CAN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE HISTORICAL DATA FOR THIS. SO WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU FIVE AND A HALF YEARS WORTH OF DATA. SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, BASICALLY ACTIVITY YEAR OVER YEAR. AND THE LAST SLIDE, ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, TO THE COMMITTEE AND, AND WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. UH, SO WE'LL START OFF WITH, UM, BASICALLY ALL THE REPORTS WE HAVE INVOLVING TRAPPED WILDLIFE ANIMALS INCLUDING SPECIES, HIGH RISK, RABIES VECTOR SPECIES. UM, WE RESPOND TO ANY AND ALL CALLS REGARD TO TRAPPED ANIMALS THAT ARE CONFINED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, WHETHER IT BE ARMADILLOS, RACCOONS, SQUIRRELS, POSSUMS, ALL OF THE ABOVE, ANY WILDLIFE ANIMAL. UH, WE DO PRIORITIZE, UH, RESPONSES FOR HIGH RISK RABIES VECTOR SPECIES SUCH AS SKUNKS, RACCOONS, FOXES, UM, NOT THAT WE TECHNICALLY GENERALLY TRAP COYOTES, BUT THEY WOULD FALL UNDER THAT SAME, THAT SAME REALM AS WELL. UM, ENSURING HUMANE HANDLING AND RELOCATION, UH, OR TESTING OF THE APPROPRIATE STATE AND LOCAL REGULATIONS. SO AS FAR AS IF IT'S A HIGH RISK RABIES VECTOR SPECIES CAME INTO CONTACT WITH AN, AN A DOMESTICATED ANIMAL OR A PERSON, WE WOULD DO THE RABIES SPECIMEN TESTING ON THAT. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDE PUBLIC EDUCATION, UH, SAFETY REPORTING, UH, AS FAR AS AVOIDING CONTACT WITH THOSE WILD ANIMALS. AND SO AS ON PAR WITH THOSE SAME 13 CITIES, UM, THE, THAT WE COMPARE ALL OF OUR STATISTICS TO, UM, AS FAR AS WILD WILDLIFE RESPONSES, UM, YOU'LL SEE KIND OF A MIXTURE OF WHAT CITIES RESPOND TO WILDLIFE TRAP CALLS, PERIOD, AND WHAT CITIES DON'T. UM, IN ADDITION TO THOSE, THERE'S KIND OF NO RHYME OR REASON AS FAR AS WHAT THEY DO RESPOND TO. LIKE ARLINGTON IS A VERY LARGE CITY. THEY ONLY RESPOND TO, UM, SICK OR INJURED RABIES VECTOR SPECIES, WHEREAS OTHER CITIES MIGHT RESPOND TO ANY AND ALL WILDLIFE TRAPPED CALLS. AND THEN THE YEARLY CALLS FOR SERVICE. SO THIS IS A BREAKDOWN FROM 2020 ONTO TODAY, UH, 2025 UP UNTIL THIS MONTH. SO IT'S BASICALLY HALF OF A YEAR OF 2025. UH, YOU SEE THE TOTAL CALLS FOR WILDLIFE ANIMALS BACK IN 2020 WAS 1,185. IT TRAILED UP JUST A LITTLE BIT TO 12 74, 12 38, 13 0 9, AND WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT DROP FROM 23 TO 24. A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO THE PUBLIC EDUCATION, PUTTING OUT SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AS FAR AS US ALSO EDUCATING THE PUBLIC WHENEVER WE GO OUT TO ADDRESSES, UM, EDUCATING THEM ON TRAPPING NUISANCE WILDLIFE, THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO, DETERRENT THINGS, THINGS ALONG THAT LINE. UM, SO BASICALLY THE AVERAGE CALLS PER DAY, WE'LL SAY IN 2020, WAS ABOUT 3.25 CALLS A DAY. AND THAT'S TOTAL FOR TRAPPED WILDLIFE CALLS BASED ON OUR STATISTICS. UM, THAT'S TRAILED DOWN TO 2024 WAS THE LAST FULL YEAR OF DATA, AND IT TRAILED DOWN TO ABOUT 2.31 CALLS. UM, WHAT DOES THAT BREAK DOWN TO? WELL, CALLS PER DAY PER A CO IS ABOUT 0.58 DEPENDING ON HOW MANY OFFICERS WE HAVE WORKING. SO BASICALLY THAT'S ABOUT LESS THAN, OR ONE CALL PER OFFICER PER [00:40:01] DAY THAT IS RESPONDING TO A TRAPPED WILDLIFE ANIMAL. UM, AND THEN ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 30% OF THOSE ARE HIGH RISK RABIES VECTOR SPECIES. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THAT STATISTIC FROM. UM, WE GO ON TO. YEAH. SO ONCE AGAIN, BASED, BASED ON THESE NUMBERS, WE, WE SIMPLY JUST DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TO REMOVE THIS SERVICE FROM THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND. UM, WE, WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE NUMBERS DECREASING, AND HONESTLY, I'M GONNA GIVE THIS LADY RIGHT HERE CREDIT FOR THAT. A A LOT OF IT IS PUBLIC EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND, AND, AND REALLY TEACHING THEM THE PROPER WAY TO COEXIST WITH, WITH WILDLIFE. SO I, WE THINK THAT THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE, FOR THE NUMBERS DECREASING. UM, WE ALSO ANTICIPATE THIS BEING SOMETHING NEGATIVE, THAT IF WE REMOVE THIS SERVICE FROM THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY DOESN'T LOOK TOO GOOD, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. SO NOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY FORCING SOMEBODY ON A FIXED INCOME TO PAY $50 TO CALL SOMEBODY TO COME IN, REMOVE A POSSUM FROM, FROM THEIR, FROM THEIR YARD. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF CALLS, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT 0.27 CALLS PER A SO, WE HAVE FOUR OFFICERS WORKING ON ONE END OF THE WEEK, SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY AND FIVE WORKING WEDNESDAY THROUGH, UM, SATURDAY. SO THAT, THAT AVERAGE IT OUT TO 5.1 OFFICES PER DAY. IT IS JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THIS COULD BACKFIRE ON US. AND SO, UH, WE ARE ALSO, LIKE I SAID, UM, WE PROPOSE THAT WE CONTINUE TRACKING THIS PERFORMANCE MEASURE AND, AND JUST BASICALLY REASSESS AND, AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS BASED ON ACTUAL ACTIVITY. IF, IF THIS NUMBER DOESN'T GO UP. I MEAN, THE NUMBER ONE THING IS OUR STAFF HAS THE TIME TO RESPOND TO THIS TYPE OF CALLS, BUT NOT ONLY RESPOND, BUT ALSO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. LET THEM KNOW HOW WE NEED TO COEXIST WITH WILDLIFE RELOCATION IS NOT, IS NOT A SOLUTION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, REMOVING THIS, UH, SERVICE FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, WE DON'T THINK IS THE, IS THE, IS THE RIGHT APPROACH. UM, WE ARE ALSO EXPLO UH, EXPLORING IDEAS. WE, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE FIVE ASOS WORKING ON ONE END OF THE WEEK AND FOUR ON THE OTHER END OF THE WEEK. WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING FOUR AND FOUR, AND THEN HAVING ONE THAT WORKS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. UH, SOMEONE THAT CAN FOCUS, UH, ON SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE HIGHLY SENSITIVE ITEMS, THE, YOU NEED SOMEONE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S PRESENT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. SO THAT'S GONNA INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL, THE NUMBER OF HOURS AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO, TO, TO THIS TYPE OF CALLS. UH, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, UM, YOU ARE GONNA SEE PRETTY SOON, PROBABLY STARTING TODAY, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE USING THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, ACCOUNTS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. CHRISTIE HAS BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB AND YOU GUYS SAW SOME OF THE PICTURES, BUT IF YOU GO TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES WEBSITE, UH, FACEBOOK PAGE, THE, THE AMOUNT OF DATA AND PICTURES AND EVENTS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S CAPTURED, IT'S AMAZING. WE WANNA DO THE, WE WANNA MIMIC OR MIRROR THE EXACT SAME THING, BUT FOCUS ON EDUCATION. A LOT OF THAT IS GONNA BE WILDLIFE, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON HOW TO COEXIST WITH, WITH WILDLIFE. WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS IN PLACE AND BASICALLY TAKING SOME OF THEIR IDEAS AND IMPLEMENTING THOSE HERE IN GARLAND. UM, BUT, UH, LIKE I SAID, UH, AT THIS POINT, BASED ON THE DATA THAT THAT WE SHOWED THE COMMITTEE, WE, WE SIMPLY, UH, DON'T THINK WE'RE JUSTIFIED IN, IN REMOVING THE SERVICE FROM THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND. AND WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO WHAT DO THEY DO WHEN THEY GET A CALL FOR A TRAPPED RACCOON? WHAT DO THEY DO WITH IT? SO RIGHT NOW, IF WE RECEIVE A, A CALL FOR HIGH RISK RABIES VECTOR SPECIES, THEN THEY WOULD RESPOND TO THE ADDRESS, THE ANIMAL WOULD BE IMPOUNDED IN THE TRUCK. UM, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE TAKE IT THE TIME TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON TRAPPING. UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ANIMAL IS, IF IT'S A HIGH RISK RABIES VECTOR SPECIES, THERE'S A LOT OF EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. LIKE IS IT GETTING THROUGH HOLES IN THE ROOF AND THEIR SOFFIT AND IT'S GETTING INTO THE HOUSE? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD TAKE MORE SERIOUSLY. 'CAUSE THERE COULD BE EXPOSURE. UM, AND THEN EDUCATE ON THINGS LIKE DETERRENCE, THINGS THEY CAN DO TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING. UH, AND AND HONESTLY, THE SAME THING FOR, FOR ANY ANIMALS, UH, THAT ARE TRAPPED. SQUIRRELS IS A NUMBER, UH, ANOTHER LARGE ONE THAT WE RESPOND TO. A LOT OF CITIZENS THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA DEPLETE THE SQUIRREL POPULATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY FEASIBLE. THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A PECAN TREE IN YOUR YARD. BUT WHAT WE DO IS THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION, AGAIN, WE TRY TO EDUCATE 'EM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA DEPLETE THE POPULATION, BUT AT THAT POINT WE DO REMOVE THE ANIMAL AND [00:45:01] THEN RELOCATE IT. I THINK WE NEED TO INFORM THE PUBLIC ON THE ANIMALS THAT ARE PRONE TO HAVE RA BEES AND THE ONES THAT AREN'T. UM, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP A LOT POSSUMS DON'T HAVE IT. YES, SIR. AND, AND LIKE, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS LAST BULLET POINT, I I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS IN BOLD. 'CAUSE THAT WAS GONNA BE THE MAIN FOCUS. PUBLIC EDUCATION, ONCE AGAIN, THE, THE GOAL FOR THE DEPARTMENT IS COMPLIANCE, NOT ENFORCEMENT. YEAH. AND THAT'S GREAT. AND THAT'S MORE OF THAT FORWARD THINKING WITHIN ANIMAL SERVICES BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR ANIMAL CONTROL VERSUS ANIMAL SERVICES. AND THAT'S MORE WHERE WE WANNA BE. THIS ACTUALLY STARTED TWO YEARS AGO, UH, AND JUSTIN AND EVERYBODY, AND CHRISTIE AND ADRIAN, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, WE STARTED THIS BY EDUCATION ONE AND DIVING INTO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD STOP SERVICING OUR CITIZENS AND YEAH, WE WOULD BE UNDER FIRE. THAT'S WHY I STARTED TWO YEARS AGO. SO NOW TWO YEARS FORWARD, IF WE WANTED TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND. OKAY, THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO A TRAP POSSUM IN SOMEBODY'S YARD. IT JUST, THERE'S NO REASON FOR IT. OR A SKUNK OR A RACCOON IF THEY'RE NOT INJURED, SICK OR POSING A, A THREAT TO THE, TO THE CITIZENS OR THE COMMUNITY, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. UM, I LIKE THE NUMBERS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT TWO YEARS AGO AGO, YEAH. WHAT WE IMPLEMENTED IS THAT IT, IT HAS ACTUALLY WORKED AND WE STOPPED RUNNING OUT TRAPS FOR CITIZENS AS WELL. UM, AND SO YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT IS SIGNIFICANT. UM, AND ACTUALLY GIVE YOU GUYS A PAT OF THE BACK ON THAT, THAT IS PHENOMENAL RIGHT THERE. SO, UM, WELL DONE. THANK YOU FOR STARTING THIS TWO YEARS AGO. IT PAID OFF. YEAH. SO, BUT BACK TO THE RELOCATION. SO LIKE WITH CATS, YOU KNOW, WE LET THEM BACK IN THEIR AREA BECAUSE THEY DO KNOW WHERE TO FIND FOOD AND YOU KNOW HOW TO SURVIVE. ARE THEY BEING RELOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THEY'RE LIKELY? SO WE LIKE TO TRY TO RELOCATE WITHIN THE HOME RANGE OF WHERE IT WAS PICKED UP. OKAY. A LOT OF THE TIMES IN HIGH URBAN DENSE POPULATED AREAS, YOU'RE GENERALLY NOT SEEING THE RACCOON CALLS IN THE TRAPPED ANIMALS. IT'S GENERALLY SOMEWHERE WHERE IT'S CLOSER TO A WATER SOURCE OR A CREEK OR GREEN BELT, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO WE TRY TO RELOCATE WITHIN, UH, THAT HOME RANGE OF THAT ANIMAL. AND SO GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, HOMES THAT LINE CREEKS OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, UH, SOUTH GLENBROOK IS A, IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAPPED ANIMALS THAT ARE PICKED UP OFF OF SOUTH GLENBROOK THAT ARE WITHIN A HUNDRED YARDS OF A CREEK OR A, A GREEN BELT OR A WOODED AREA THAT WE CAN RELOCATE WITHIN THAT IMMEDIATE HOME SOURCE. WE'RE NOT TAKING THEM, YOU KNOW, 12 MILES AWAY AND RELOCATE 'EM WHERE THEY'RE NOT GONNA THRIVE. OKAY. OKAY. AND THAT'S ALREADY JUST PART OF THE STANDARD PROCESS, CORRECT? YES. CORRECT. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION? I, I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEBODY, FOR A COMMITTEE MEMBER TO MAKE A MOTION IF, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ON THIS, NO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR, FOR SOMEBODY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED AND THEN SOMEBODY WILL SECOND AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL VOTE. MAKE A MOTION TO KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING. I THINK IT'S, OBVIOUSLY IT'S WORKING. SO I SECOND, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR A AYE, AYE. . THANK YOU. . FUTURE AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMITTEE HAS, I MEAN, THE COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY UM, UH, ASKED US TO CONTINUE GATHERING DATA FOR PET LIMITS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA OBVIOUSLY, UH, CONTINUE DOING IN TRACKING. BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL US RIGHT NOW. UH, YOU, YOU CAN SEND US AN EMAIL, UH, IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT. THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED IS YOU HAVE TO COPY SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE COMMITTEE. YOU GOTTA HAVE A SECOND. SO IF YOU SEND AN EMAIL, CC SOMEONE ELSE THAT, THAT LETS US KNOW THAT YOU'RE THE PRIMARY AND THAT OTHER PERSON'S THE SECONDARY, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, UH, EXPLORING THAT OTHER ITEM AND PRESENTING IT TO THE, UH, TO THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE. CAN WE BRING SOMETHING UP NOW? UH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, ON THE STATISTICS, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE TRENDS BECAUSE JUST WITH A TWO MONTH DATA POINT, I CAN'T TELL OUR SERVICE CALLS GOING UP OR DOWN OR ADOPTIONS GOING UP OR DOWN. RESCUES GOING UP OR DOWN. UM, AND FOR THE DANGEROUS, OR SORRY, NOT DANGEROUS, THE, UH, EXCESSIVE ANIMALS, WE'RE GONNA WANNA SEE MORE THAN A SINGLE DATA POINT ANYWAY. SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE DATA ON? BASICALLY EVERY PERFORMANCE MEASURE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT? UH, LET ME SEE IF I CAN, YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPARING MONTH TO MONTH OVER A SIX MONTH OR A YEAR PERIOD. YEAH. SO INSTEAD OF A TWO MONTH WINDOW, IF IT'S ADDING LIKE A CHART TABLE OF WHAT THAT DATA HAS BEEN OVER TIME. YEAH. YEAH. SO, SO SPECIFICALLY TO PET LIMITS, [00:50:01] LIKE I SAID, UM, THE, THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IS NOT, DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITIES THAT WE CAN FILTER CALLS SPECIFICALLY FOR EXCESSIVE ANIMALS. SO WHEN THE ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP DURING LAST MONTH'S MEETING, THAT'S WHEN I TOLD THE STAFF FROM THIS POINT GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO START TRACKING EVERY SINGLE CALL THAT HAS TO DO WITH EITHER TOO MANY ANIMALS, EXCESSIVE ANIMALS. I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT LIKE NUMBER OF ADOPTIONS PER MONTH. LIKE SHOW A WHOLE SIX MONTH RANGE. SO YOU LIKE TO SEE YEAR OVER YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE FROM WHEN I WAS RUNNING THE DEPARTMENT AND THEN WHEN THAT GUY TOOK OVER. . NO, IT'S, IT'LL BLOW YOU AWAY. I MEAN IT'S, IT'S ONCE AGAIN, CREDIT TO ART. WE, WE HATED LOSING HIM. UH, HE CAN STILL COME BACK BY THE WAY, . BUT THE THINGS THAT, UH, I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT DOING A WHOLE YEAR. YEAH. UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THIS NUMBERS, UH, HISTORICAL DATA SO WE CAN DO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA DO A FIVE YEAR COMPARISON, 10 YEAR COMPARISON, DO YOU WANNA DO JUST A YEAR MEETING AFTER MEETING A REDUCTION OR AN INCREASE FOR THE PREVIOUS TWO MONTHS? LIKE A COMPARISON ON THAT? IF IT WAS LITERALLY JUST A TABLE WITH ALL THE MONTHS ACROSS OF THAT DATA? YEAH. AND THEN IF YOU OH YEAH. IF YOU WANNA DO ANY PERCENTAGES OFF TO THE SIDE, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT FEB, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY WERE TO KNOW. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IN PLACE ALREADY. WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN PRESENTING THAT TO THE, TO THE COMMITTEE. RIGHT. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY START DOING THAT GOING FORWARD. THAT'S VERY SIMPLE. WE HAVE A, WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO US BECAUSE LITERALLY WHEN, WHEN WE WENT OVER THIS DATA, I MEAN, SOMETHING THAT CAME TO MY MIND IS LIKE, WOW, THAT BALANCE BETWEEN ADOPTIONS AND RESCUE GROUPS SEEMS OFF TO ME, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT ADOPTED VERSUS RESCUE GROUPS HAS BEEN THE PREVIOUS MONTHS. HEY, UH, ON SECTION FIVE HAS LAST MONTHS AS A COMPARISON . SO, BUT IT'S NICE IF WE HAVE MULTIPLE MONTHS YES. WE CAN DO THE TRENDS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. JUST GET GOING UP AND DOWN MM-HMM . YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT FOR YOU. MM-HMM . WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT PART OF THE ACTUAL, UM, PRESENTATION RIGHT. GOING FORWARD. YEAH. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? AND DR. DON, WE DO HAVE CITIZEN COMMENTS BEFORE WE ADJOURN. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO GO? YEAH, YOU CAN COME ON. OKAY. I WAS, WALK MY DOG OUTSIDE. YOU CAN, YOU CAN SIT DOWN SO THAT, THAT WAY THEY CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. SPEAK ON THE MICROPHONE. OKAY. I WAS WALKING MY DOG ON SATURDAY. A I'M REALLY SORRY IF YOU CAN START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. RHONDA SPENCE, 9 1 6 OLD ORCHARD ROAD, GARLAND 7 5 0 4 1. I WAS WALKING MY DOG ON SUN SATURDAY AFTERNOON, MAY 10, BETWEEN FOUR 30 AND FIVE ISH AT THE CORNER OF GLENBROOK AND SATURN SPRINGS. MY DOG FOUND A DEAD ARMADILLO IN THE GUTTER. I TOOK A PICTURE AND SUBMITTED IT TO E ASSIST AT 4 57. I GOT CONFIRMATION THAT MY REQUEST HAD BEEN RECEIVED AT 5 28. I GOT NOTIFICATION THAT MY REQUEST HAD BEEN COMPLETED SINCE THIS WAS LATE ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON. I DIDN'T THINK THE SITUATION WOULD BE ADDRESSED UNTIL SOMETIME MONDAY. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND SAY WELL DONE TO ANIMAL SERVICES. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DIRECTION. , DIDN'T WE ALL? THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OH, WE'LL SEND. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.