Jul 07, 2025 Work Session

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GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE JULY 7TH, 2025 WORK SESSION OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. BEFORE WE BEGIN, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE DISASTER THAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND IN KERR COUNTY AND THE HILL COUNTRY, AND THAT OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE CERTAINLY WITH ALL THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED, THE VICTIMS FAMILIES AND ALL THOSE AFFECTED BY THE FLOODS. ALSO, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS WILL NOT BE JOINING US TONIGHT. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL

[ PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS]

[ CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA]

[1. Agreement with Valley Creek/State Highway 190 Partners, L.P., related to the dedication of right-of-way to the public]

ITEM NUMBER ONE AGREEMENT WITH VALLEY CREEK STATE HIGHWAY 190 PARTNERS LP RELATED TO THE

[2. Amendment to Chapter 50, Article II - Rates and Fees]

[3. 2025 Code of Ordinances "Clean-up" Amendments]

[4. Consider Approving "Clean-up" Amendments to Certain Provisions of the Garland Development Code]

[5. Consider a Resolution suspending Oncor Electric's requested rate change]

[6. Interview candidates for possible appointment to the Texas Municipal Power Agency board]

AND AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL. THE CITY ATTORNEY ATTORNEY HAS INFORMED ME THAT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN INTERVIEW OF THE CANDIDATES AND NOT A REQUEST FOR AN UPDATE, NECESSARILY ON TEAM ACTIVITIES. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE ARE INTERVIEWING THE CANDIDATES. I'M GOING TO CALL THE CANDIDATES UP IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE IN THE WORK SESSION PACKET. SO FIRST CANDIDATE TOM JEFFRIES. MR. JEFFRIES, THANK YOU, SIR, FOR JOINING US HERE. THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST GIVE US A INTRODUCTION TO YOURSELF AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS. OKAY. I'M TOM JEFFRIES, BEEN AROUND GARLAND, AND IF I COULD JUST MOVE THAT MIC A LITTLE CLOSER. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. OKAY. SINCE 1968. RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE. EDUCATION WAS CPA. BACK WHEN AUDITING THAT TYPE OF THING ULTIMATELY WENT INTO HOME BUILDING IN GARLAND, SURROUNDING AREAS. BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CITY FOR QUITE A WHILE. BACK IN THE OLDEN DAYS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL, A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. BEEN ON THE TAMPA BOARD FOR A WHILE, SO. IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY I CAN TRY TO ADDRESS ABOUT ME AS OPPOSED TO TAMPA, AS I UNDERSTAND I CAN'T, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO DO SO. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER. DUTTON. MR. JEFFRIES. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL POWER AGENCY'S MISSION IS IN YOUR CURRENT ROLE? I'M SORRY, I DID NOT UNDERSTAND. SORRY. THESE ARE NEW. WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK THEM YET. OKAY.

CAN YOU TELL US YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL POWER AGENCY'S MISSION AND ITS CURRENT ROLE IN MUNICIPAL ENERGY DELIVERY? SURE. TAMPA WAS FIRST FOUNDED BACK IN THE 70S WHEN THE NATION HAD A CRISIS WITH NATURAL GAS, ETC. SUDDENLY THEY COULDN'T USE NATURAL GAS FOR POWER PRODUCTION ANYMORE. GARLAND WAS ONE OF SEVERAL CITIES THAT HAD AN EXTREME DIFFICULTY WITH THAT, SO THEY FORMED A. ACTUALLY, IT'S A TEXAS AGENCY. TAMPA. THEY BUILT A LIGNITE PLANT DOWN IN GRIMES COUNTY, OPERATED IT AS A LIGNITE PLANT FOR 15 YEARS OR SO, SWITCHED TO POWDER RIVER BASIN COAL, ULTIMATELY CLOSED THE PLANT IN. 15 YEARS OR SO AGO.

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TOM, HOW DO YOU ENSURE THAT GARLAND'S INTERESTS ARE REPRESENTED IN TAMPA DISCUSSIONS WHILE MAINTAINING ALSO MAINTAINING REGIONAL COOPERATION? I THINK THAT.

KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT TAMPA DOES, WHAT ITS GOALS ARE, WHAT ITS MISSIONS ARE, AND KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT OUR THREE. COMPANION CITIES OBJECTIVES ARE. ET CETERA. AND TAMPA IS SOMEWHAT STRANGE IN THAT REGARD, IN THAT TAMPA OWNS APPROXIMATELY 47%, OWNS ITS COMMITMENT, IS APPROXIMATELY 47% OF TAMPA, BUT WE HAVE 25% MEMBERSHIP ON THE BOARD. WE HAVE FOUR OUT OF EIGHT, I THINK OVER THE YEARS THAT WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AS FAR AS WORKING WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND LOOKING OUT FOR GARLAND'S INTEREST. AND I THINK THAT IF YOU WERE TO ASK MR. KLEIN AND MR. HANCOCK THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT THAT OPINION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITIES OF TAMPA BOARD MEMBER AS IT RELATES TO THIS COUNCIL? THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE AS A BOARD MEMBER OF TAMPA, WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO TAMPA. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE A VERY VESTED INTEREST AS FAR AS REPRESENTING THE CITY OF GARLAND. SO WE BALANCE THAT THOSE TWO THINGS OUT. MR. MOORE, GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN YOU SAY BALANCE THOSE TWO THINGS OUT, I'M SORRY. WHEN YOU SAY BALANCE THOSE TWO THINGS OUT, GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. WELL, WE ARE THERE.

REPRESENTING GARLAND IS ONE OF ITS TWO BOARD MEMBERS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING AT TAMPA THAT'S RADICALLY OUTSIDE OF THE FIDUCIARY RULES OF BEING A BOARD MEMBER. AND I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT. FOR AN EXAMPLE, GOING BACK TO WHEN THE PLANT WAS WAS OPERATIONAL, WE ALWAYS HAD A DEFINITE CONCERN BECAUSE GARLAND WAS PAYING 47% OF THE OPERATING COST. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE MADE DECISIONS THAT TRIED TO MAXIMIZE GARLAND'S ASSET AND VALUE IT RECEIVED FROM THE ASSET. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. WHAT IS YOUR COMMUNICATION STYLE WHEN COLLABORATING WITH STAFF AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND CITY REPRESENTATIVES? WHAT IS MY COMMUNICATIONS COMMUNICATION

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AND OCCASIONALLY EYEBALL TO EYEBALL. I WOULD DESCRIBE IT, ALTHOUGH INTERESTINGLY, IF YOU.

IF YOU STEP BACK AND LOOK AT IT, THE TWO OF US ON THE TEAM MBA BOARD HAVE NO FORMAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT. I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, I REMEMBER I ASKED MR. KLEIN ONE TIME BACK 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO WHAT WOULD BE NHL'S POTENTIAL FINANCIAL REWARD FOR THE MISSISSIPPI INTERCONNECT, THE DC INTERCONNECT. AND THE RESPONSE WAS, GOSH, JEFFRIES CAN'T TELL YOU THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO BUT ANYWAY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, EMAIL, PHONE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, THANKS FOR COMING OUT, MR. JEFFRIES. I'M SEVEN WEEKS ON COUNCIL, SO I'M STILL LEARNING A LOT HERE. SO CAN YOU. YOU'RE YOU'RE CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD? YES, SIR. AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU SERVED SO FAR? 23 YEARS. 23 YEARS, WHICH CONSISTS OF FOUR YEARS. BACK IN THE IN THE 80S. AND THEN I WAS OFF FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND I THINK I'VE BEEN BACK ON SINCE 2007, I BELIEVE IT WAS. AND JUST FOR MY EDUCATION, HOW LONG ARE THE BOARD TERMS? TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SIR. JUST KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW SOME MORE HISTORY ABOUT YOU. SO I THINK JUST EXPERIENCE IS VALUABLE. FOOTNOTE I REMEMBER SEEING YOU OVER AT ON MONDAY NIGHT AT THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT DOWN THE ROAD. WHEN I WAS OVER THERE ONE NIGHT BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU THE COUNCIL ELECTION. YEAH. GO AHEAD. GOOD CHOICE. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR. WE'LL CALL UP OUR NEXT APPLICANT, MR. THOMAS PEREZ. IS HE HERE? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S HERE. NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT THEN, OUR NEXT APPLICANT, TYLER WILLIAMS, I HAVE A NOTE HERE. SAYS HE'S ALSO UNABLE TO ATTEND. WE'LL MOVE ON THEN. TO SIMON. MATTHEW. SEE HERE. I DO NOT SEE HIM MOVING ON. THEN. NICHOLAS NICKS HAVE A NOTE HERE. SAYS HE'S UNABLE TO ATTEND AS WELL. WE'RE STRIKING OUT SO FAR AND MOVING ON NEXT, STEVEN FLORES. SIR, I INVITE YOU TO COME UP HERE. GIVE US. INTRODUCE YOURSELF, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS. HELLO, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. HI, MY NAME IS STEVEN FLORES. I AM A 13 YEAR NOW RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER IN THE CITY OF GARLAND, AND MAYOR PRO TEM EDMONDS DISTRICT. SO GLAD TO BE HERE. I'VE BEEN IN DALLAS DALLAS AREA HERE SINCE 1999, AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND, I'VE BEEN WORKING.

FOR FAIR PARK SINCE 2005, SO I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN VENUE MANAGEMENT AND WITH THE PARKS AND MY EDUCATION, I GOT TWO DEGREES FROM TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, ONE FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND THE OTHER ONE FOR POLITICAL SCIENCE, MY MASTER'S AND POLITICAL SCIENCE.

SO VERY GLAD TO BE HERE AND MEET YOU ALL AND ANSWER A FEW OF YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SIR.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. ANY SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND TALKING WITH US TODAY FOR ACTUALLY SHOWING UP. YEAH I THINK THAT COUNTS FOR A LOT TONIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIOR EXPERIENCE IN UTILITY SYSTEMS, ENERGY POLICY OR PUBLIC FINANCE? NO, I DO NOT HAVE PRIOR EXPERIENCE IN UTILITIES. SO MY BACKGROUND HAS BEEN IN IN CITY SYSTEMS OF PARK AND REC DEPARTMENTS FROM CITY OF AUSTIN, SORRY, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, CITY OF SAN MARCOS. AND THEN WHEN I MOVED TO DALLAS, BEEN WORKING FIRST PRIMARILY WITH CITY OF DALLAS IN THE MANAGEMENT OF FAIR PARK. SO WE HAVE ALL THE FACILITIES, THE COTTON BOWL COLISEUM AND ALL THE OTHER VENUES THERE. AND THEN SO RECENTLY, NOW IT'S OAK VIEW GROUP THAT'S A PRIVATELY MANAGED COMPANY THAT RUNS FAIR PARK FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. SO BUT IT'S

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AND SO THEY SO I'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS ON THE MANAGEMENT OF ALL THE DIFFERENT ASSETS THAT CITY OF DALLAS HAS, INCLUDING ALL THE TRAILS AND LAKES AND REC CENTERS AND AQUATICS FACILITIES. SO AND THEN FAIR PARK IS BEING ONE OF THEIR PRIME PARKS, ALONG WITH THE DALLAS ARBORETUM, DALLAS ZOO THAT THAT'S FEATURED IN DALLAS. SO YEAH, IT'S A GREAT SPOT.

AWESOME. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT INTERESTS YOU ABOUT THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL POWER AGENCY? YEAH, I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE THAT I CAN KIND OF SEE THE, THE INNER WORKINGS OF HOW THE UTILITIES AND OPERATIONS FOR NOT JUST FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND, BUT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE OTHER THREE CITIES AND HOW THAT CAN CONTINUE TO BROADEN AN. INCREASE THE POSSIBILITIES FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND, NOT JUST NOW, BUT INTO THE FUTURE, LOOKING FORWARD, WHAT THOSE POWER NEEDS COULD BE. SO I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT ASSET THAT, YOU KNOW, I COULD BE SOMEBODY WHO'S.

WHO LISTENS AND WHO CAN BE SOMEBODY WHO CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO BE, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH DIFFERENT PARTNERS AND MAKING SURE THAT, HEY, WE HAVE WE HAVEN'T LOST A STEP OR BEEN LEFT BEHIND WITH CERTAIN THINGS OF TECHNOLOGIES OR WITH WITH INFORMATION THAT THAT THE CITY MIGHT NEED TO HAVE. SO PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER BASS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. FLORES. REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TODAY.

AND AS YOU HEARD, A LIST OF NAMES COMING OFF, PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, APPLY AND DON'T EVEN BOTHER SHOWING UP. SO DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE EFFORT YESTERDAY. CAN YOU TELL US, HAVE YOU SERVED ON ANY OTHER MUNICIPAL BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS PREVIOUSLY? NO. SO WHAT I'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS WORK IS WORKED ON A SPECIFICALLY LIKE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE OF WORK KIND OF WORKED ON THERE. YOU KNOW, THE ADVOCATE, YOU KNOW, POLICY ADVOCACY BOARDS WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A MUNICIPAL ONE THAT I KIND OF WORKED ON.

BUT IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, SITTING ON A BOARD. IT WAS JUST KIND OF SITTING IN THE POLICY MAKING OVER THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE FOR A SHORT FOR A SHORT TERM. I WORKED IN THE TEXAS HOUSE UNDER THE SPEAKER IN 1999, IN AUSTIN. SO THAT WAS A SHORT STINT I HAD BEFORE COMING BACK UP TO DALLAS.

SO WAS ABLE TO DO SOME THINGS THERE THAT REALLY PROUD. AS YOU MENTIONED, THOUGH, IN DALLAS, THOUGH, YOU WORK WITH THE PARKS BOARD. SO PARKS BOARD, YES. AND YOU STILL WANT TO DO IT. YOU STILL WANT TO GET INVOLVED. YEAH, EXACTLY. OKAY. WELL, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. CAN YOU TELL ME I WANT TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION OF YOU THAT I ASKED OF TOM. SO HOW WOULD YOU ENSURE THAT GARLAND'S INTERESTS ARE REPRESENTED IN TMPA DISCUSSIONS WHILE ALSO MAINTAINING REGIONAL COOPERATION? YEAH, EXACTLY. I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITY NUMBER ONE IS LIKE MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NOT A CITY OR AN ENTITY THAT'S TRYING TO DOMINATE THE CONVERSATIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE WE ALWAYS THE CITY OF GARLAND'S INTEREST ARE BEING ARE BEING VOCALIZED ON THE BOARD. SO I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING ALONG WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. SO I WOULD BE TAKING KEEN INTEREST AND, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PAST ACTIONS THAT HAVE HAVE HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE PAST YEARS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME INDUSTRY PROBABLY LITIGATION BACK, BACK A COUPLE OF DECADES THAT HAVE HAD THAT HAVE HAD TO OCCUR. SO BUT WORKING WITH THEM, POSSIBLY TRYING TO AVOID THAT AND COMING UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS, PROACTIVE SOLUTIONS FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND MOVING INTO THE FUTURE. SO AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TODAY. APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR ANSWERS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IT'S GOOD TO BE ABLE TO FINALLY PUT A NAME WITH THE FACE. AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. YEAH. MUCH LIKE COMING ON TO THIS COUNCIL, THERE ARE A TREMENDOUS LEARNING CURVE. AND I'M JUST WONDERING AT THIS POINT, YOU'VE ALREADY STATED YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BACKGROUND IN THE FIELD, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TIME WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING IN THE WAY OF PREPARATION, THE MEETINGS AND LEARNING THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE BUSINESS? HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT DOING THAT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK I WOULD ABSOLUTELY BRING A SENSE OF URGENCY THAT NEEDS TO BE LIKE

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[7. DART Overview]

GOOD EVENING. I WANTED TO START BY GIVING A HISTORY OF DART EXPLAINING WHERE WHERE DART STARTED AND WHERE WE ARE NOW. SO DART WAS CREATED BY THE VOTERS IN 1983 TO PROVIDE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE A 93 MILE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM WITH 65 STATIONS, 570 BUSSES, 14 BUS TRANSFER FACILITIES AND THE 34 MILE TRINITY RAILWAY EXPRESS. THERE ARE SEVERAL MEMBER CITIES INCLUDING ADDISON, DALLAS, GLENN HEIGHTS, RICHARDSON AND UNIVERSITY PARK. CARROLLTON-FARMERS BRANCH, HIGHLAND PARK, ROWLETT, PLANO, IRVING, GARLAND, AND COCKRELL HILL AND WE'LL GET TO THE BOLDED ONES IN A FEW SLIDES. WE HAVE TWO BOARD REPRESENTATIVES, MARK ABRAHAM AND MARK ENOCH. FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2024, THEIR BUDGET WAS ROUGHLY $1.8 BILLION. AND THEN WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH THEM IN THE RECENT YEARS. FROM THE INCEPTION OF DART IN 1984 TO APRIL 2023, WE HAVE CONTRIBUTED $726 MILLION TO THE SYSTEM. AND THERE'S A BREAKDOWN HERE. WE ARE HOST TO TWO TRANSIT, TWO TRANSIT CENTERS AND TWO LIGHT RAIL STATIONS. AND THEN WE ALSO OFFER A COMBINED 16 BUS BAYS. AND THEN THERE'S TWO GRAPHS HERE, ONE THAT BREAKS DOWN THE SERERVICE AREA, CITY SALES TAX, AND THEN A SUMMARY OF FACILITIES BY SERVICE AREA. THIS ONE IS MAINLY TALKING ABOUT RIDERSHIP. YOU CAN SEE THE 23 ANNUAL SYSTEM RIDERSHIP, AS WELL AS THE BREAKDOWN OF WEEKDAY AVERAGE RIDERSHIP ACCORDING TO

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YET WE ARE FACED WITH HISTORIC CUTS CURRENTLY. THERE WERE FOUR TOTAL BILLS FILED DURING THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AS I DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THIS IS A BREAKDOWN AND TIMELINE OF EVENTS THAT OCCURRED FROM THROUGHOUT THE SESSION. AND IT IT ENDED WITH THE LEGISLATURE NOT BEING ABLE TO ADVANCE THAT FORWARD. BASED ON SOME THE FAILURE TO MEET SOME SPECIFIC DEADLINES AND THEN ENDING WITH GARLAND PRE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WAS HELD ON JUNE 26TH HERE IN CITY HALL. I PRESENTED THIS AT THE LAST WORK SESSION AS WELL, BUT THIS IS THE OUTLINE OF PROPOSED CHANGES WHICH WOULD, IN NUMBER ONE, ELIMINATE THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD EXPRESS BUS ROUTE AND THEN MAKES A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE FARE STRUCTURE AND FEE STRUCTURE. LASTLY, I WANTED TO PROVIDE A FULL PICTURE OF TIMELINE OF EVENTS FROM T INCEPTION OF DART TO THEIR UPCOMING HEARING. TUESDAY, JULY 8TH AT 6:00, WHICH IS TOMORROW. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. HI, HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT? DOING WELL, HOW ARE

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I DIDN'T SEENY THAT WERE LIKE SOME OF OUR MOST USED THAT WERE BEING CUT VERSUS OUR LEAST USED.

THE ONES THAT I SAW THAT WERE BEING CUT WERE ONES THAT WERE KIND OF UNDER UTILIZED. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. COUNCIL. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. NO, PLEASE. MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE, I WAS THINKING WE'D PROBABLY HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE I SPOKE. I'M. I'M HAPPY TO GIVE AN INPUT. I THINK THAT REALLY WE ARE AT A VERY IMPORTANT POINT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AS IT RELATES TO DART, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE CUTS THAT ARE BEING MADE PRESENTLY. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE. I TRY TO KEEP THINGS VERY SIMPLE. AND WE HAD TWO THINGS ON THE BOARD AT ONE TIME. ONE WAS THE RESOLUTION AND THE OTHER WAS THE LEGISLATION. THE LEGISLATION DID NOT GO FORWARD, AND BECAUSE THE LEGISLATION DIDN'T GO FORWARD, OF COURSE, THAT PUTS US RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE IN THE VERY BEGINNING. AND THAT IS THE RESOLUTION. WHY THE RESOLUTION? THE REVOLUTION WAS BECAUSE WE HAD SOME CITIES THAT HAD PAID MORE THAN THEY HAD GOTTEN OUT OF THE PLAN. AND DART, IN ITS EFFORTS TO APPEASE THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, THOUGHT ABOUT THE 5% MOBILITY. AND OUT OF THAT 5% MOBILITY, WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO LOSE SOME SERVICES. HOWEVER, THERE IS SOMETHING. THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF THINGS TAKING PLACE PRESENTLY. AND NOW I WANT TO SAY THIS TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. THERE IS MUCH MORE GOING ON HERE THAN MEETS THE EYE. EVERYONE HAS TO KNOW THAT GARLAND GARLAND NOT ONLY SUPPORTS DART, WE SUPPORT DART 150 WHY? BECAUSE WE MAKE GREAT USE OF THE MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM. THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT. OUR PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE IT. THEY NEED IT. THE QUESTION, THOUGH, BECOMES WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED, THAT WAS WHAT WE HAD TO REALLY STOP AND CONSIDER, BECAUSE WITH THAT RESOLUTION, WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS THEY WERE TAKING FUNDS THAT 5% AND THEY WERE GOING TO PAY TO THE CITIES THAT WERE ACTUALLY TAKING THEM TO COURT. AND WITH THOSE CITIES THAT HAD SUPPORTED THEM THE ENTIRE PERIOD OF TIME, WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE STATUS QUO. BUT WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING IN RETURN. AND WE FOUND THAT VERY DIFFICULT. NOT ONLY DID WE NOT GET ANYTHING IN RETURN, WE WERE ALSO GOING TO LOSE SERVICES. SO EITHER WAY IT WENT, WE EITHER LOST SERVICES WITH MONEY THROUGH THE LEGISLATION OR WE LOST SERVICES WITHOUT MONEY, WITH THE LEGISLATION, WITH WITH THE RESOLUTION. AND SO SOME OTHER THINGS ARE TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT IS WHEN DART MADE THAT PROPOSAL OF THE 5%, IT HAD ALSO REQUESTED FUNDS FROM THE RTC IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE 5%. HOWEVER, RTC DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD NOT SUPPORT. THEY WOULD NOT PUT THE FUNDS IN IF THE SISTER CITIES OR IF THE CITIES THAT WERE OPPOSED TO THIS LEGISLATION TO AUSTIN. AS A RESULT, WE AS A CITY AREE RLLY GOING TO HAVE TO STOP AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ENTIRE GAMUT ALL OVER AGAIN. BECAUSE IF, IN FACT, THE RTC DOES NOT SUPPORT THE 5%, THAT MEANS HOW IS DOROTHEAN GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE 5%? EVEN AS A MATTER OF FACT, AT THIS POINT, IT MAKES IT APPEAR THAT THAT ENTIRE SCENARIO WAS ONLY A PRETENSE, AND I HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT I SAY HERE, BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT I SAY HERE, I'M VERY MUCH LIABLE FOR IT. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE AS A CITY, WE AS A COUNCIL, WE NEED TO PROBABLY TAKE SOME TIME. AND I'M ASKING OF OUR CITY CITY MANAGER, AND I'M ASKING OF THIS COUNCIL. WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME AT THIS POINT TO BRING OUR TO HAVE A SPECIAL

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SO I AGREE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM MORE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A STAND ON THIS. I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE STAND UP ADVOCATE FOR GARLAND. IF THESE CHANGES ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. I WANT TO HAVE A VOICE IN THAT AND NOT BE TOLD NECESSARILY WHAT CHANGES HAVE TO BE, BUT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AND TRY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THOSE ON GARLAND. SO I'M HAPPY. CITY MANAGER, IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ABOUT THAT OR IF WE PUT TOGETHER AGENDA AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT FORM THAT MAY TAKE. YEAH, I THINK THE INFORMATION THAT ARIEL PROVIDED REALLY WAS MEANT AS A PRIMER, SO THAT WE THROW IT ALL ON THE TABLE, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY HERE, ESPECIALLY JUST OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS BETWEEN THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PROPOSED, THE 5% GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM, THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND DISCUSSION. WE'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL A FEW TIMES TO ALSO TALK ABOUT IT. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I SUGGEST WE PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR A WORK SESSION DISCUSSION. WE CAN INVITE OUR DART REPS TO BE THERE IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE THAT. AND AGAIN, I YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU WITH WHATEVER INFORMATION IS NEEDED. WHILE ALL THIS TIMELINE WAS GOING ON TO DART STARTED MORE FREQUENTLY MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGERS FROM THE MEMBER CITIES. AND YOU KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED, MAYOR PRO TEM, WHEN THE 5% PROGRAM PASSED, THE MESSAGING THAT THAT WENT FORWARD TO THE CITY MANAGERS RIGHT AFTER THAT WAS THAT, HEY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY PROBLEM LIKE THE RTC IS GOING TO COVER IT IF THEY DON'T THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE CAN KIND OF EASILY CUT. AND I SAY EASILY BECAUSE I DON'T BALANCE THEIR BUDGET FOR THEM, BUT THEY COULD COME UP WITH THE FUNDING TO COVER THOSE CUTS. AND I WORRY IN RETROSPECT AT THE TIME THAT OR NOW THAT I THINK WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS TRYING TO BYPASS ANY LEGISLATION TO GET PASSED AND TO SAY, HEY, WE CAN WE'RE GOING TO GIVE BACK TO THESE CITIES THAT ARE THAT ARE THE UNDERWATER CITIES, IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM THAT, TO BYPASS ANY LEGISLATION THAT PASSED. AND IT FEELS LIKE NOW AND I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, NOT FOR COUNCIL, OF COURSE, OR THE CITY, BUT IT FEELS LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO BACK BACKTRACK ON THAT, ON THAT GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, FROM GARLAND'S PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE PROBABLY OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING

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AND BUT A L OF CITIES DID. AND SO I THINK PART OF THE CUTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING DART PROPOSE IS ALSO TRYING TO PAY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT OTHER CITIES REQUESTED, AND I THINK THEY WERE TO THE TUNE OF 20 TO $30 MILLION. SO IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S MONEY, NOT GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM MONEY, BUT THAT'S OTHER CAPITAL FUNDS THAT DART'S TRYING TO PAY FOR THROUGH THESE CUTS. AND SO DEFINITELY WORTHY OF MORE CONVERSATION. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCIL'S TRYING TO DO HERE, WHICH IS ADVOCATE FOR WHAT OUR POSITION IS, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FOR OR AGAINST DART. IT CAN BE GARLAND'S POSITION. IT CAN BE UNIQUE TO GARLAND BECAUSE I THINK GARLAND IS UNIQUE IN ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH DART. AND. AND WHAT? THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN SO HARD, I THINK, FOR US OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE A POSITION OR WE SIT ON THE FENCE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? AND WE'RE JUST IN A UNIQUE POSITION. SO, YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL WANTS, WE'LL PUT THIS BACK ON AN AGENDA IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR WORK SESSION. DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO US AND I'LL I'LL MAKE SURE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH YOU ALL SO THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED CAN GET ABSORBED AND REALLY, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD OFFER TO IN ADVANCE OF THAT IS FOR US TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE THINK ARE SOME OF SOME OF WHAT SHOULD BE GARLAND'S POSITION POINTS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. WE'VE TALKED A LOT. WE'VE LISTENED A LOT TO WHAT WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE. WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC TRY TO SUMMARIZE SUMMARIZE THOSE IN ADVANCE. SO AT LEAST YOU'VE GOT A GOOD STARTING POINT. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT JULY 21ST THE NEXT WORK SESSION. SO WE CAN DO THAT AND PROVIDE THAT IN ADVANCE AS WELL. MAYOR PRO TEM OR THIS IS NOT A TIME FOR MAKING MOTIONS, OF COURSE, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET A CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO. BRING THIS BACK TO THE AGENDA COUNCIL. I THINK THAT IS UNANIMOUS. AND I, LIKE CITY MANAGER SAID, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU HOMEWORK ON MY FIRST WORK SESSION TO COME BACK READY TO DISCUSS THAT. BUT ALSO WHAT POSITION DO WE WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR GARLAND MAYOR? YES, SIR. AND THAT IS THE IMPORTANT PIECE, BECAUSE EVERYONE SITTING HERE AT THIS TABLE, WE GOT QUESTIONS. THERE'S NO DOUBT WE GOT PLENTY OF QUESTIONS. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE TALKING OUR EARS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE. THOSE ARE THE THINGS I THINK WE NEED TO GET TO THE CITY MANAGER, TO ARIEL, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THOSE ANSWERED AND SOME OF THAT STUFF. THEY CAN GET TO US BEFORE WE COME TO THE MEETING, SO THAT WHEN WE GET HERE, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD GENERAL IDEA OF THE HISTORY. HOW DID WE GET HERE? HOW DID WE GET HERE? AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT IS BEING DONE RIGHT NOW TO PUT FORTH A PERSPECTIVE TO THE PUBLIC THAT MAKES IT APPEAR THAT WE AS A CITY ARE AGAINST DART WHEN WE ARE NOT. WE'RE IN FULL SUPPORT OF DART. SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THE INFORMATION TO THEM. THEY GET THE INFORMATION BACK TO US. SO WHEN WE COME HERE WE'RE READY TO DIALOG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANYBODY ELSE ANY MORE COMMENTS THEN. IF NOT WE LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THIS AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS. ALL RIGHT. THANK

[8. Update on Alcoholic Beverage Zone Legislation]

AWESOME. THE FUN STUFF. LITTLE HISTORY. GARLAND'S PARTIALLY WET. WE HAVE BEER AND WINE THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BUT NO LIQUOR STORES, RESTAURANTS OR OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS THAT RECEIVE THAT 51% OF RECEIPTS FROM FOOD OR FOOD PURCHASES MAY ALSO SELL MIXED DRINKS. IN ORDER FOR LIQUOR STORES TO BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE CITY, A PETITION PROCESS MUST BE COMPLETED TO HOLD A LOCAL OPTION. ELECTION. THE PETITION REQUIRES 35% OF THE REGISTERED VOTERS IN THE POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OR CITY WHO VOTED FOR THE GOVERNOR. IN THE MOST RECENT GUBERNATORIAL ELECTION, AND ALL OF THOSE SIGNATURES MUST BE COLLECTED WITHIN 60 DAYS. SO FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND, THAT'S ROUGHLY 37,000 SIGNATURES IN 60 DAYS. TO KIND OF ADDRESS THIS LAST SESSION IN THE 88TH, WE WENT AND TRIED TO HAVE A BILL FILED TO ALLOW US TO DO ALCOHOLIC

[00:45:08]

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO CURRERENTLY IN ORDER TO SELL MIXED BEVERAGES, YOUR RECEIPTS HAVE TO BE 51% FOOD. SO YOU WOULD UNLESS YOU'RE A PRIVATE CLUB, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIKE A MEMBERSHIP OR BE A MEMBER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 51% OF YOUR RECEIPTS BE RECEIPTS, BE FROM FOOD, NOT ALCOHOL. SO LIKE A RESTAURANT WOULD BE ABLE TO SELL MIXED BEVERAGES LIKE A MOJITO OR A MARGARITA, BUT YOU CAN'T JUST GO TO A PLACE WHERE THEY ONLY SELL MOJITOS AND MARGARITAS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME FOOD WITH IT. CURRENTLY, IF IT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO PASS THE RESOLUTION FOR THE LOCAL OPTION ELECTION THAT WOULD BE BRINGING THE VOTERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES, WE WANT ESTABLISHMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE TO SELL 51% FOOD IN ORDER TO SELL MIXED BEVERAGES. THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WE COULD HAVE A BAR, BUT NOT A LIQUOR STORE. BASICALLY, YES. YOU CANNOT HAVE LIQUOR STORES. SO OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BASS. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS. MAYOR HEDRICK,

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THAT WAS IT, 1690, 1694. ANYWAY, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WE WERE BASICALLY TRYING TO GO THE LEGISLATIVE METHOD BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT TO GO THE PETITION METHOD WAS GOING TO REQUIRE TOO MANY SIGNATURES AND TOO SHORT OF AMOUNT OF TIME. IT REALLY DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS FEASIBLE. SO OUR ASTUTE LAW TEAM HERE AT CITY OF GARLAND FOUND A ANOTHER CITY ON THE COAST THAT HAD DONE IT USING LEGISLATIVE METHODS. WE TRIED TO USE THAT SAME METHOD, AND IT WAS IMMEDIATELY SHOT DOWN ON THE FLOOR. AT THAT POINT, WE HAD A THAT'S COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK DECIDED TO TAKE UP THE CHARGE ON THE PETITION METHOD, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY SIGNATURES WE WOUND UP WITH, BUT IT WAS NOWHERE NEAR THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED FOR THAT METHOD.

SO THEN WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE TO THE THIS SESSION. AND WHAT WHAT PASSED IS ABSOLUTELY NOT AT ALL WHAT WHAT I INTENDED WHEN I STARTED THIS A FEW YEARS AGO, THE INTENTION WAS FOR US TO CREATE A FEW ALCOHOL ZONES, BASICALLY WHERE WE COULD PICK 3 OR 4 PLACES IN THE CITY OF GARLAND GEOGRAPHICALLY, WHERE A LIQUOR STORE COULD BE, AND WE COULD BASICALLY WRITE ALL THE RULES. WE COULD SAY THE LIQUOR STORE HAS TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 75,000FT■S, YOU KNOW? SO THE WHOLE PLAN WAS REALLY FOR CONTROL AND SAFETY, RIGHT? CONTROL WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW LIQUOR SALES TO BE AND SAFETY FOR OUR PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THE FACT THAT GARLAND DOESN'T HAVE OFF PREMISE SALES. SO ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION IS WHEN YOU GO TO A RESTAURANT OR A BAR AND YOU DRINK OFF PREMISES WHEN YOU BUY IT AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRINK IT THERE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT WITH YOU. SO YOU GO BUY BEER AT THE STORE OR GO BUY LIQUOR AT THE STORE. SO THIS IS FOR THIS WHOLE THING WAS JUST FOR OFF PREMISE, NOT FOR ANY ANYTHING TO DO WITH ON PREMISE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT IT TURNED INTO WHEN IT WAS DOWN THERE. THIS SESSION IS, IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. IT'S ON PREMISE CONSUMPTION, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WITH WHAT WE PRESENTED. AND OF COURSE, I WON'T SUPPORT THAT. THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH DOING THE PETITION METHOD IS IT TAKES THE CONTROL AWAY FROM THE CITY AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE EVERY CONVENIENCE STORE COULD BE NOW SELLING LIQUOR, AND WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

IF WE DO IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE CONTROL. THAT'S WHY I WOULD STILL BE FOR TRYING IT IN THAT METHOD, AND I WOULD NOT SUPPORT ANY OTHER METHOD, NOR TO SUPPORT HOW THIS IS PRESENTED HERE. YOU KNOW, AND BEING IN GARLAND, GARLAND IS A VERY VERTICAL CITY, RIGHT? IF I'M ANYWHERE, I'M IN GARLAND. IF I DRIVE EAST OR WEST FOUR MILES, I'M GOING TO BE IN A DIFFERENT CICITY AND I GOING TO BE IN A DIFFERENT CITY THAT SELLS ALCOHOL. SO THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE LIQUOR SALES HERE DOES NOT CONTROL THAT PEOPLE AREN'T BUYING LIQUOR, RIGHT? I MEAN, I GO TO THE SPECS THAT'S A HALF A MILE FROM MY HOUSE, OR I GO TO THE TOTAL WINE. THAT'S THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE FROM MY HOUSE. THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT CITIES. IT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE TAX DOLLARS. AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. I THINK THE RST TIME THAT WE LOOKED AT HOW MUCH WAS GOING TO BE, IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THREE QUARTERS OF $1 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. AND, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, DOING IT THE LEGISLATIVE METHOD ALLOWS US TO HAVE CONTROL OVER HOW IT'S SOLD, WHERE IT'S SOLD, AND WHAT SIZE STORES IT SOLD IN. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I WOULD SUPPORT US PURSUING THIS ANY FURTHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. SO IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LOCAL OPTION AS IT'S PRESENTED HERE, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TRYING TO GET LIQUOR STORES ZONES THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE ACTION? I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT. I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT HARD BECAUSE WE CAN SAY THEY PROBABLY SAY, WELL, DIDN'T WE DO THIS FOR YOU LAST SESSION? NO, NOT REALLY, BUT KIND OF. THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE A VERY STRONG GROUP AND THE OPPOSITION IS VERY STRONG AND VERY WEALTHY. SO IT'S HARD TO FIGHT THAT. WE HAD, I THINK, A VERY TIGHT BILL THIS PAST SESSION THAT I DON'T THINK WAS VULNERABLE TO POINTS OF ORDER, BUT OUR OUR BILLS JUST DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE HOUSE FLOOR. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BASS ABOUT ZONES. I FEEL LIKE HAVING A LIQUOR STORE ON EVERY CORNER WITH BARS ON THE WINDOWS

[00:55:02]

[01:00:04]

YES, SIR. RELATED TO THAT, MAYOR PRO TEM. WHAT? SOMETHING YOU SAID BROUGHT UP TO MY RECOLLECTION THAT I THINK WHEN I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT OUR OUR BILL THAT WAS PASSED, GIVING US THE LOCAL OPTION ELECTION, THE INITIAL THOUGHT WAS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ONLY ALLOW MIXED BEVERAGE BY CERTAIN AREAS AND DESIGNATE CERTAIN AREAS, AND FOR THE REASONS I JUST STATED, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. IS THAT CORRECT, BRIAN? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. SO IT'S CITYWIDE OR NOTHING, ALL OR NOTHING AS FAR AS THAT, THAT FIRST OPTION UP THERE. AND SO THAT THAT'S A. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. SO THE PLACES THAT ARE CURRENTLY 51%. DO YOU THINK THAT IF WE GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS, DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD AFFECT THEM. DO YOU THINK THAT INTRINSIC HERE WOULD STOP SMOKING BRISKET AND SAY, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE BEER. I'M GOING TO STOP BEING A RESTAURANT AND JUST BE A BAR. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE ANY OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD ANSWER TO THAT, BUT AS A CONSUMER, I CAN SAY THAT I DON'T THINK I'D STOP GOING TO INTRINSIC BECAUSE I LIKE THEIR BARBECUE. I DON'T GO BECAUSE I WANT A MIXED DRINK. I MEAN, FORTUNATE SON WOULDN'T CLOSE UP THEIR RESTAURANT AND JUST BECOME A BAR. IF WE PASS THIS BECAUSE THE RESTAURANTS NOT IS NOT IS NOT AS THE FOOD IS NOT AS PROFITABLE AS WHAT WE CAN BE JUST WITH ALCOHOL. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK IS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, WOULD ANYBODY THAT'S ALREADY 51% SAY I DON'T HAVE TO BOTHER WITH THE RESTAURANT ANYMORE. CLOSE UP THE KITCHEN. LET'S, LET'S JUST SELL DRINKS. DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD HAPPEN? INCENTIVIZE ANYBODY TO DO THAT? I'M NOT SURE. I THINK WHEN YOU SELL 51%, I THINK YOUR IDENTITY IS RESTAURANT. BUT THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE UP TO THE OWNERS DISCRETION. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL. THIS THIS ONE TOOK AN INTERESTING TURN HERE AT THE LAST MOMENT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING EXACTLY I WAS ADVOCATING FOR. I TESTIFIED IN FRONT OF THE SENATE COMMITTEE FOR. AND THEN AT THE LAST MOMENT, IT TOOK A 90 DEGREE TURN AND ENDED UP WITH THIS. BUT IT'S INTERESTING, I THINK, AND I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM HIT ON SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT TO JUST WRITE IT OFF INITIALLY. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, YOU MENTIONED STUDYING THIS AND FINDING OUT MORE. I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC AND SEE WHAT DO THEY THINK? WHAT ARE THE RESTAURANT OWNERS THINK? YOU KNOW, GATHER MORE INPUT. AND I'VE TALKED ALREADY A FEW SINCE THIS HAPPENED, AND IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE. AND I'D LIKE TO GET A BROADER PERSPECTIVE THAN JUST A FEW DOZEN OR SO THAT I'VE TALKED TO ABOUT THIS. REGARDLESS, IT'S A FEATHER THAT WE HAVE, OR AN ARROW WE STILL HAVE IN OUR QUIVER THAT WE COULD PULL OUT AT ANY TIME. THIS PASSING THE STATE DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE AUTOMATICALLY HAVE IT. IT MEANS IT STILL HAS TO GO TO THE VOTERS. BUT WE CAN CALL FOR THAT ELECTION AT ANY TIME, AND THAT WON'T BE TAKEN AWAY FROM US ANYTIME IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. SO WE HAVE THAT OPTION AVAILABLE. I WOULD STILL BE INTERESTED IN PURSUING BECAUSE

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VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. SO I JUST WANT TO MA SURE IF WE GO THE PETITION ROUTE, ARE WE ABLE TO CREATE ZONES? NO, YOU COULD GO TO THE LEGISLATURE AFTER THE FACT TO CREATE A ZONE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE CURRENT LEGISLATION WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GO WITH ALLOWS US TO HAVE TO BYPASS THE PETITION TO, TO HAVE LIQUOR STORES. BUT IF WE ALREADY DID THE PETITION, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT AUTHORITY. GETTING THAT ZONE WOULD BE A LOT EASIER.

THAT'S VERY SCARY TO ME. I I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO OWN OR OPEN UP A WHISKEY BAR. AND AFTER I GOT ELECTED, LIKE MY DREAM WAS TO CALL IT DISTRICT FIVE. BUT I, I FEEL LIKE ME OPERATING A BAR WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE. AND ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY WHERE MAYBE I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE A BAR. AND IT'S I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO REQUIRE MORE DISCUSSION BECAUSE, I MEAN, DISTRICT FIVE WOULD BE AN AWESOME PLACE, BUT I, I WORRY THAT OTHER PLACES MIGHT BE QUITE SEEDY AT TIMES. AND I THINK THAT'S SCARY FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING MYSELF. SO YEAH, I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSING MORE. I JUST I REALLY LIKED THAT ZONING LEGISLATION. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY WONDERFUL AND WE DON'T HAVE TO STOP TRYING. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A TURN IN IN OUR, OUR REPRESENTATION AND, AND MAYBE ONE DAY THEY WOULDN'T LISTEN TO THE STAKEHOLDERS AS MUCH AS THEY DO NOW. SO WE'LL SEE. WE HAD A REALLY GOOD BILL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. I CAN ADD TO THAT, MAYOR AT LEAST WHAT WHAT WE THINK HAPPENED IN A LOT OF OUR SISTER CITIES WHEN THEY PASSED A LOCAL OPTION ELECTION FOR RETAIL SALES, IS

[01:10:02]

THINKING ABOUT COMMITTEES FOR THIS ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES PERHAPS. I MEAN. YEAH, COMMUNITY SERVICES OR JUST KEEPING IT KIND OF LEGISLATIVE AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS, WHICH HAS BEEN CARRYING A LOT OF IT NOW KEEP IT IN LEGISLATIVE AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE. WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE WITH THE NEXT ITEM THEN. SO THEN COUNCIL, CAN I GET A CONSENSUS ON THE SENATE TO LEGISLATIVE AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS THEN. LOOKS LIKE THAT IS UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE TONIGHT. YES. GO AHEAD SIR. I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO ARIEL ALSO AND TO TAYLOR. BUT FOR THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DID DURING THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AND ESPECIALLY ON THE MEMORANDUM THAT YOU SENT TO US, I THINK IT WAS YESTERDAY, AS IT RELATES TO HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED IN KEEPING US INFORMED ABOUT, I THINK YOU HAD A LIST OF TEN, 12 DIFFERENT ITEMS ON THAT LIST. IS THAT WE YES, WE ALSO ARE DOING AN INTERNAL SATISFACTION SURVEY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND KEEP YOUR HEAD UP. YOU DID A VERY GOOD JOB AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU CONTINUOUSLY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL, WE'LL MOVE ON

[9. Mayor Appointments to Council Committees and Outside Boards]

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? I'M HAPPY TO RUN DOWN ALL THE APPOINTEES AND APPOINTMENTS IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT I, I SENT THAT I SENT THAT OUT TO EVERYONE AND IT SEEMED LIKE THE FEEDBACK WAS WELL RECEIVED. SO WE WILL BE FINALIZING THOSE TOMORROW. I REALLY TRIED TO VE EVERYONE THEIR TOP CHOICES, AS WELL AS GIVE EVERYONE CHAIRMANSHIP ON ONE OF THE COMMITTEES. SO I HOPE I ACCOMPLISHED THAT AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU GUYS. VARIED INTEREST. IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER WHEN YOU'RE NOT ALL GOING FOR THE SAME POSITION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A GOOD YEAR THIS COMING TERM WITH THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS. THEN. ALL RIGHT

[10. Garland Youth Council Appointments]

[11. ​Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Margaret Lucht

• Trayc Claybrook - Cultural Arts Commission 

[12. ​Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Margaret Lucht

• Lucian Giambasu - Tax Increment Finance #1 Downtown Board

[ ANNOUNCE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON, I HAVE A COUPLE. SO SORRY. I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT ADDING A HEALTH PROVISION TO OUR CITY CHARTER FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS FACING HEALTH ISSUES THAT CAN HINDER THEIR ABILITY TO FULFILL THEIR DUTIES ON COUNCIL, AS WELL AS TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS. IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT ITEM? SECOND, BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. AND THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES. OKAY. THEN MY SECOND ONE, PLEASE GO AHEAD. I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCE FOR OUR FLAGS TO BE PLACED AT HALF STAFF, STAFF AT ALL CITY BUILDINGS UPON THE PASSING OF A CURRENT CITY EMPLOYEE, OR CURRENT OR FORMER ELECTED

[01:15:01]

OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. BUT IF IT'S SIGNED ORDINANCE PERHAPS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ALL RIGHT.

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL BE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. GOOGLE IT ON YOUR ALL RIGHT TABLET. IS THAT ALL? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A FULL UPDATE TO COUNCIL REGARDING THE SPRING CREEK NATURE PRESERVE AND THE DAMAGE THAT WAS RECENTLY OCCURRED THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT GIVEN MAYBE AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION. I WANT TO INVOLVE. PART OF THAT WAS IN PARKS, SO I'D W WANT MR. ESSER.

PART OF THAT WAS WASTEWATER. SO I BELIEVE THAT'S MISS OWENS. AND THEN SOMEBODY FROM THE SPRING CREEK PRESERVE, I WOULD VOLUNTEER DAVID PARRISH FROM MY PARKS BOARD TO COME AND HAVE THEM HUDE AND GIVE US THE WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHY? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? AT LEAST RECAP WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. AND THERE'S RUMORS FLYING AROUND ABOUT WHAT WHAT DID OR DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND SO AT LEAST I KNOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, NOT ASKING FOR WHAT THE PLAN IS TO FIX IT JUST YET. I KNOW THAT'S IN THE WORKS AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE, BUT WHAT HAPPENED? AND SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR A REPORT ON THAT AT THE NEXT WORK SESSION AT THE VERY LATEST. OKAY. I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON ON THAT ONE. ANYTHING ELSE SIR? THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER ALL. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD GET A BRIEFING ON THE RAMIFICATIONS OF H.R. ONE, THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT ON THE CITY OF GARLAND. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS ARE BEING PHASED OUT OR ELIMINATED, AND THAT'S GOING TO OBVIOUSLY AFFECT LANDFILL GAS PRODUCTION MONEY AND MIGHT ALSO AFFECT. COUNCIL TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD. OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT ONE BY MAYOR PRO TEM MOORE. THAT ONE I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO AN UPDATE AT A FUTURE WORK SESSION ON THAT ITEM. ANYTHING ELSE SIR? THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES UP BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS FOR BRINGING THAT FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'LL CITY COUNCIL

[ EXECUTIVE SESSION]