Jul 14, 2025 Plan Commission

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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE JULY 14TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR CUSTOMARY COMMISSIONERS. START OUR MEETING WITH THE PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US. IF YOU DO OR NOT. THAT'S IT. NO. IT AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER ABRAMS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, PLEASE BOW YOUR HEAD. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TONIGHT. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR ABILITY TO BE HERE, AND WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE. WE ASK THAT YOU LOOK AFTER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR FRIENDS, OUR FAMILIES, AND ALL OF OUR ACQUAINTANCES. WE ALSO SEND A SPECIAL REQUEST FOR HELP FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS HELPING EVERYBODY ACROSS THE NATION WITH THE DEVASTATING FLOODS THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY HAD. GIVE THEM YOUR GUIDANCE AND STRENGTH TO HELP THEM IN ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN. AND YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I WONDER, WOULD THAT PIECE OF WOOD, IF DOWN THERE THAT LOOKED LIKE A CANE? BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S A PIECE OF THE IT FELL OFF. I SEE WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE. CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT. ONE LITTLE PIECE OF HOUSEKEEPING. IT WAS POSTED THAT ITEM TWO A THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR MAX SHIELDS SERVICES. I'M GONNA GO GRAB A PIECE OF WOOD HANGING UP. OKAY. AND IS BEING POSTPONED TILL AUGUST 11TH. SO WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THAT CASE. ALRIGHTY. NOW, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK TONIGHT, WE'VE GOT THESE LITTLE SPEAKER CARDS. IF YOU WANT TO FILL ONE OUT AND HAND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY, WE CAN CALL YOU UP. AND WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. WE NEED THAT. FOR THE RECORD, APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASES. OTHER OTHERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP SUCH AS A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, LET US KNOW AND WE'LL DEFINITELY ALLOW

[a. June 23, 2025 Plan Commission Minutes]

OKAY. YEAH I DON'T SEE MY VOTE SCREENING COMING UP EITHER. TELL YOU WHAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, SHALL WE DO THIS BY A SHOW OF HANDS FOR THIS ONE WHILE THEY WORK IT OUT? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST ZONING CASE TONIGHT.

ITEM TWO A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF MAC. THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE THAT'S

[b. DD 25-02 Rashad Haiddar (District 2)]

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AND IN THIS CASE, THIS SIGN IS BELOW 12FT, SO THEY ARE RESTRICTED TO TEN SQUARE FEET.

AND JUST USING OUR ESTIMATIONS FROM WHAT WE GATHERED FROM 2022, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 102FT■S FR THE SIGNAGE. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. SO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS BUSINESS CENTER. BUSINESS CENTERS PROVIDE A CLUSTER OF BUSINESS OFFICES AND OR LOW IMPACT INDUSTRY, INCLUDING CAMPUS TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT CUMULATIVELY EMPLOYS LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE. OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT TYPE OCCUR INTERNAL TO BUILDINGS, RESULTING IN MINIMAL NEGATIVE EFFECTS OR IMPACTS WITH SOUND, AIR TRAFFIC, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, STORAGE, AND ETC. AND ARE COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT TYPES AND ARCHITECTURE. CHARACTER, SCALE AND INTENSITY. SO THE REASON THAT THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN STANDARDS HAS THESE SIGN REQUIREMENTS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGNAGE IS WITHIN PEDESTRIAN SCALE, WITHIN REASON, BUT IF IT'S TOO LARGE, IT CAN BE CLUTTERED AND IT CAN KIND OF OVERTAKE THE FACADES OF THE BUILDING. THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO INCLUDED SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT THIS REQUEST CAME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY HAVE ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE SIDE SIGNAGE BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE REQUEST. AND THIS IS THE NORTHEAST SIDE. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SORT OF DIMENSIONS OR AREA SIZES FOR THIS SIGNAGE. IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT IS LARGER THAN THE SIGN PERMIT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED, AND ALSO IN 2022. THAT PERMIT WAS FOR 55FT■S, AND THIS SIGN DOES APPEAR TO BE LARGER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEFINITIVE DIMENSIONS. NONE WERE PROVIDED. THIS IS THE FRONT. APPROXIMATELY 102FT■S ON THE FRONT, AND TECHNICALLY IT'S LIMITED TO TEN SQUARE FEET. AND THEN WE HAVE A LARGE SIDE AT THE SIGN AT THE SIDE. SO STAFF, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BUSINESS. WE WANT THERE TO BE VISIBILITY, BUT WE ALSO WANT THERE TO BE COMPATIBILITY. AND WITH THE PEDESTRIAN SCALE FOR THIS AREA.

SO WE ARE SUPPORTING A 30FT■S SIGNAGE FOR THE FRONT. AND FOR THE SECOND ONE WE ARE RECOMMENDING DENIAL JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SORT OF INFORMATION ON HOW LARGE IT IS.

AND WE DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS. WE SENT OUT 56, WE RECEIVED FIVE, AND IN GENERAL THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT A BUSINESS OWNER HAVING A AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. THERE WAS ALSO CONCERNS THAT THEY'VE BEEN HAVING TO MEET THE STANDARDS. SO THEY KIND OF JUST WANT THE FAIR TREATMENT. SO THAT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PRESENT FOR A PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, YES I BELIEVE THE

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AND AGAIN, THAT'S 17 CITATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO ME BY THE CITY. AND WHEN I WENT TO COURT, THEY DISMISSED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, 17 OF THEM. I HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS. I HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS HERE FOR YOU GUYS. SO THIS IS THE SIGN. THIS IS THE SIDE OF MY BUILDING HERE. IT SAYS AUTO REPAIR WHEELS AND TIRES. ON THE OTHER SIDE IT SAYS AUTO REPAIR WHEELS AND TIRES.

AND IN THE FRONT OF BUSINESSES IS BRAKES, WHEELS AND TIRES. I HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS. I GUESS THEY DIDN'T PRINT IT OUT. I SENT HIM AN UPDATED ONE, BUT THE SIDEWALL IS 20FT. THAT SAYS AUTO REPAIR HERE. WHERE IT SAYS AUTO REPAIR. HERE IT'S 20FT, NINE INCHES. THE ALIGNMENT IS EIGHT FEET, TWO FEET. IT'S EIGHT FEET WIDTH TWO FEET HEIGHT. THE SIDE FACIA HERE WHERE IT SAYS WHEELS, TIRES AND LIFTGATES IS 26FT. THE FRONT IS 49FT. ALL OF IT TOGETHER IT'S 49FT. AND THEN THE SIDEWALL HERE WHERE IT SAYS AUTO REPAIR IS 20FT AND THE WHEELS, TIRES 20FT, 20FT. WHEN I WENT TO DEAL WITH THE CITY OFFICIALS, THEY SAID, HEY, THE FRONT SIGN IS FINE BECAUSE YOU HAD THE SIGNS BEFORE. WE'RE NOT COMPLAINING. AND THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS THIS SIGN HERE. AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE, I HAD IT BEFORE AUTO REPAIR WAS ON TIRES. SO WILLINGNESS TO COOPERATE WITH A REASONABLE MODIFICATION. SINCE MY LAST MEETING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND MR. RAYMOND, I'VE ALREADY MADE SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING AS A COURTESY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN, WRITES. DESPITE THESE EFFORTS, THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES CONTINUE, INDICATING A LACK OF CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT SPECIFIC VARIANTS WERE REQUESTING. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT MY REQUEST IS NOT FOR UNRESTRICTED SIGNAGE, BUT A REASONABLE VARIANCE THAT RECOGNIZES THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND SUPPORTS THE CONTINUED VIABILITY OF MY BUSINESS WITHOUT CONFLICTING. THE GUARDIAN'S CONFLICTING WITH GARLAND'S OVERALL ZONING GOALS. I REMAIN TO OPEN OPENLY, WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY OFFICIALS TO CLARIFY THE SCOPE OF THIS VARIANCE AND FIND A MUTUALLY AGREEABLE SOLUTION. AND I DID THAT. THERE'S A FEW KEY POINTS. THERE'S A FEW KEY POINTS THAT I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TELL YOU GUYS THE LONG STANDING USE AND ESTABLISH OF GOOD FAITH. MY SIGN HAS BEEN DISPLAYED CONTINUOUSLY AND OPENLY FOR OVER TWO YEARS. DURING THIS PERIOD, IT BECAME AN ACCEPTED BUT ACCEPTED PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE. THE INITIAL DENIAL OF THE CHANNEL LETTERING CHANGE REQUESTS DID NOT INVALIDATE MY EXISTING SIGNAGE RIGHTS, SO I NEVER ASKED FOR TO BE ABLE TO PUT THESE SIGNS. I ALREADY HAD THESE SIGNS THAT ALL I ASKED FOR IS THE CHANNEL LETTERING, THAT WHICH WAS DENIED SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND UNFAIR TARGETING. THE RECENT CITATION APPEARED, LINKING TO THE NEIGHBORS COMPETITIVE COMPLAINTS RATHER THAN OBJECTIVE ZONING CONCERNS. GIVEN ALL CITATIONS WERE DISMISSED BY THE LACK OF EVIDENCE AND AGAIN, 17 CITATIONS. I GO TO COURT. THEY DISMISS THEM. THE PATTERN SUGGESTS UNFAIR TARGETING RATHER THAN LEGITIMATE VIOLATIONS. BUSINESS IMPACT AND COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTION. THE SIGNAGE IS A CRUEL IS CRUCIAL FOR MY BUSINESS VISIBILITY AND CUSTOMER OUTREACH, ESPECIALLY IN A RELATIVELY NEW LOCAL ENTERPRISE. REMOVAL AND FORCED ALTERCATION ALTERATIONS WOULD CAUSE SEVERE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND UNDERMINE MY INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. I'VE INVESTED OVER $2 MILLION IN THIS BUILDING TO MAKE IT LOOK THE WAY IT DOES. NO, NO DOCUMENTED SAFETY OR ESTHETIC HARM. TODAY. THERE HAS BEEN NO COMPLAINT FROM THE PUBLIC OR EVIDENCE PRESENTED IN THE SIGN

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SHE HAD WROTE SHE HAD WROTE A AND I WANT TO READ THIS TO YOU GUYS. AND THIS IS THE SAME LADY THAT I HAVE A VIDEO WITH THAT SHE'S TELLING ME THAT SHE HAS CONNECTIONS WITHIN THE CITY AND SHE WILL GIVE ME SHUT DOWN. I'VE SHOWED THIS TO THE CITY AND THEY JUST UNDERMINED IT. YEAH. WE ALL WE ALL GOT A COPY OF THIS EARLIER. GIVE ME ONE SECOND, SIR. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN R READ THIS. SHE WROTE. FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS, PAYLESS TIRE HAS OWNED THE SAME FAMILY. IT'S BEEN OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY AT THE SAME LOCATION ON THE EDGE OF DOWNTOWN GARLAND. WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE CURRENT SIGN ORDINANCE AND HAVE ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS. MR. HIGHTOWER REPEATEDLY DEMONSTRATED THE DISREGARD FOR THE CITY, THE CITY OF GARLAND, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS TOLD BY MR. JERRY TROTTER. JERRY TROTTER IS THE SAME GUY THAT'S BEEN GIVING ME THE TICKETS.

SUPPOSEDLY SHE KNOWS THIS GUY IN PERSON. I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO READ THAT, BUT I WANT TO POINT BACK TO THE FACT OF THIS LADY IS CONTINUED TO HARASS ME, AND SHE'S THE ONE THAT HAS CAUSED THESE CONCERNS WITHIN THE CITY. THIS IS HER BUSINESS AND SHE HAS THE SAME SIGNAGE AS ME THAT SPANS ALL ACROSS HER BUILDING. IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME. IT SPANS RIGHT ACROSS THE ENTIRE BUILDING WITH THE SAME SIZE. THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF HER BUILDING. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S PUSHED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO WHY IS IT THAT SHE CAN DO IT? BUT IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME TO HAVE THAT. IN CONCLUSION, GIVEN THE ABOVE, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST TT THE CITY GRANT THE VARIANCE AND CONSIDER THE ZONING AMENDMENT THAT'S RECOGNIZED MY SIGN, PREEXISTING STATUS, AND IN IN INDICATES UNDUE HARDSHIP CAUSED BY RECENT ENFORCEMENT. I'M COMMITTED TO WOWORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TO REACH A SOLUTION THAT BALANCES THE CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FAIRNESS IN THIS MATTER. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. DISCUSSION. MOTION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, HERE WE GO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I AFTER AFTER REVIEWING THE APPLICANT'S MATERIALS AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. I'M AGAINST THIS REQUEST. THE PURPOSE OF THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT CODE IS TO ESTABLISH A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DISTRICT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE OF STREETS AND BUILDINGS, WHICH ATTRACT ONGOING REINVESTMENT. AND THAT'S 701. THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT IS SET FORTH CLEARLY IN THE CODE 7.3. SPECIFIES THAT MAJOR WAIVERS MUST MEET THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE DISTRICT AND RESULT IN AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE AN ATTRACTIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE DOWNTOWN, TO THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. OUR CODE REQUIRES THAT THE FONT ON THE SIGNS IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT BE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY FONTS, WHICH PRIORITIZE FUNCTIONALITY OVER EXCESSIVE STYLISTIC FLAIR TO ENSURE THE MESSAGES CONVEYED EFFICIENTLY AND ACCURATELY AND UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE APPLICANT ERECTED A SIGN LARGER THAN THE ONE HE WAS UNDER PERMIT DENIED. FOR. I BELIEVE THAT THIS APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A LARGER SIGN NOW DOES NOT MEET WITH EACH OF THE WAIVERS REQUIREMENTS. ACCORDINGLY, I AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AGAINST THIS APPLICATION AND WOULD RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. THERE ARE TWO REQUESTS WRAPPED INTO THIS ONE. THERE'S A SEPARATE ONE FOR THE NORTHEAST SIDE. IS YOUR MOTION INCLUDE BOTH. WAS DISCUSSION ONLY, MR. CHAIR? OKAY. MOTION. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION AND. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU MADE A MOTION. NO, NO. AND THAT BEING SAID, FOR CLARITY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN. SO IT WOULD BE TWO SPECIFIC COMPONENTS OF THE APPLICATION, THAT BEING THE CORRECT SIDE AND THE NORTHEAST SIDE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE. CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER ROSE. OH.

MR. ROSE. ROSE. HE WANTS TO SPEAK. AND THEN I SEE YOU'RE UP HERE FOR A MOTION. COMMISSIONER ROSE. A MOTION TO, WELL, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S IT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION JUST TO

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OKAY. AND WHERE DO WE GO? AND I DON'T KNOW IF OUR VOTING SYSTEM IS WORKING OR FIND OUT IN A FEW SECONDS. ANYBODY'S VOTING SCREEN POPPING UP? NO, SIR. SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHTY. WE ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. AND LET ME CLEAR THE MOTIONS. AND, COMMISSIONER ROSE, EXCUSE ME. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST NOT MAKE A MOTION YET, BUT SUGGEST STRONGLY THAT WE APPROVE THE. THE INDIVIDUALS REQUEST AND DENY WHAT THE CITY IS SAYING. HE NEEDS TO COMPETE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S NEXT DOOR TO HIM OR AROUND THE CORNER. I'M NOT SURE WHERE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR FOR THAT. THAT BUSINESS TO HAVE THE BIG SIGN AND HE'S RESTRICTED TO THE SMALL SIGN. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE THE SAME. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER JENKINS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER ROSE, I THINK YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR ME TO AGREE THE CITY MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT TOOLS AT ITS DISPOSAL BY ISSUING CITATIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE IN ROUTE TO EVALUATING THOSE CONDITIONS. I DON'T HAVE THAT APPLICANT'S INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME. WHAT I HAVE IS THIS PARTICULAR WAIVER IN FRONT OF ME, THE REQUEST FOR THE WAIVER IN FRONT OF ME. AND IT'S REALLY THE IDEA THAT THE APPLICANT WAS AGAIN DENIED A PERMIT. SO SUBMITTED A PERMIT BACK IN 2022, WAS DENIED FOR THAT PERMIT FOR REASONS THAT AREN'T PARTICULARLY CLEAR TO US AT THIS POINT, AND THEN THEREAFTER PROCEEDED TO ERECT SIGNAGE THAT WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE'RE WE IF WE'RE SEEKING A WAIVER BECAUSE THERE IS FUTURE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO AGREE. BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DECISION OR AN ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY'S CODES, ORDINANCES, DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THEN SUBSEQUENT SUBSEQUENT EFFORT TO REQUEST A WAIVER.

WELL, IN THIS CASE, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO LEAVE WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND. AND IS THE INCREASE APPROPRIATE ONLYLY? SORRY, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS IN. WE'VE WE'VE CLOSE. WELL GO AHEAD SINCE IT'S JUST YOU COME BACK UP FOR ABOUT 30 ABOUT 30S. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE WERE THEY DENIED THE CHINA LETTERING. THEY DID NOT DENY THE SIGNAGE. THEY ONLY DENIED THE UPGRADE TO CHINA LETTERING. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL CONFUSED. MY SIGNS WERE ALREADY THERE. MY SIGNS WERE GOOD. THEY'RE ONLY DENIED THE CHILD LETTERING REQUEST. SO I THINK THAT'S THE CONFUSION THERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME MORE INPUT. SO JUST QUICK CLARIFICATION. AFTER THE REQUEST WAS DENIED, THE APPLICANT'S ARGUMENT IS THAT THE EXISTING SIGN THAT WAS THERE BEFORE THAT IS THE SAME ONE THAT THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE, THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. WE HAVE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT GOOGLE IMAGES, NOT THE SIGN THAT CAME DOWN IS NOT THE SIGN THAT WENT BACK UP. IT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SIGN. YOU ALL COULD GO TO GOOGLE AND SEE THAT BACK IN 2021 2022, IT WAS A DIFFERENT SIGN. IT WAS A NONCONFORMING SIGN, BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT SIGN. AND THIS SIGN THAT IS CURRENTLY IN FRONT OF YOU FOR CONSIDERATION WAS INSTALLED AFTER THE PERMIT WAS DENIED.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER PARIS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT. WE APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND NOT SUPPORT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WOULD THAT INCLUDE BOTH? BOTH REQUESTS, BOTH SETS OF SIGNS? ABSOLUTELY. HE NEEDS TO COMPETE WITH THE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE. AND I THINK THAT PUTTING THE SIGN UP THAT HE WANTS IS

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MOTION APPEARS TO DIE FOR LACK OF A SECOND. COMMISSIONER. PARIS. LET ME A LITTLE BUTTONS I HAVE TO HIT HERE, I SEE IT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE COMMISSIONER ROSE SPOKE AND WHAT I WAS WANTING TO CLARIFY WHEN WE HAD THE STAFF'S PRESENTATION IN THE BACK. NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, BUT IN THE BACK OF THE PRESENTATION DECK. THE RECOMMENDATION I THOUGHT THAT I HAD READ WAS APPROVAL OF THE FIRST AND DENIAL OF THE SECOND. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE I HAVE CLARITY ON, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT WRITTEN HERE QUITE THE SAME WAY.

NO. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL OF THE SECOND DECIDE SIGN. OKAY. ON THE FRONT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR UP TO A FOR A 30 UP TO A 30 SQUARE FOOT SIGN. BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO STANDARDS ASSOCIATED THERE. IF THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 12FT OR BELOW, THEN THE SIGN HAS TO BE TEN. THE MAXIMUM SIZE IS TEN SQUARE FOOT. IF THE BUILDING IS HIGHER THAN 12FT, THEN THE SIGN COULD BE UP TO 30 SQUARE FOOT. SO WE ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR UP TO 30 SQUARE FOOT, BUT NOT FOR WHAT HE HAS. WHAT HE HAS CURRENTLY IS 102 SQUARE FOOT, OKAY. AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON. THAT'S WHY THE DENIAL. CORRECT? CORRECT. THIS ONE. THAT'S THE ONE THAT I'M REFERRING TO. THE SIDE ONE IS WE'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL FOR THAT. THAT ONE WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON. BUT THE FRONT ONE, WE DID GATHER INFORMATION FROM THE PERMIT THAT WAS PROVIDED. THE APPLICANT DIDN'T NECESSARILY PROVIDE US THE DETAILS OF THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SIGN THAT'S INSTALLED, INSTALLED IN THE FRONT. BUT FROM WHAT WE CAN GATHER, IT'S OVER 100 SQUARE FOOT, AND WE'RE ONLY RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR UP TO 30 SQUARE FOOT IN THE FRONT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, LYNN. I AM LEANING TOWARDS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WAS THAT A FORM OF A MOTION? I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD ONE ON THE FLOOR. OKAY. MORE DISCUSSION, ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION? NO, WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION YET. OKAY, WELL, WELL DID YOU MAKE THAT AS A MOTION? I CAN MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT THE FRONT SIGNAGE. AND THEN THE DENIAL OF THE SIDE SIGNAGE.

SUPPORT THE 30 FOOT MAXIMUM FRONT. CORRECT? CORRECT. AND NEITHER SIDE. DO I HEAR A SECOND. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS TO APPROVE UP TO 30FT■S OF THE FROT AND NOT TO APPROVE THE SIDE. AM I CORRECT ON THAT, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. NO, THAT IS CORRECT, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE CLEAR THAT WE NEED A THREE FOURTHS MAJORITY ON THIS ONE. YES, WE DO NEED A THREE FOURTHS. AND THERE ARE EIGHT OF US HERE.

AND I ACTUALLY WROTE IT DOWN. SO WE NEED SIX. WELL, YES, BECAUSE WE ARE APPROVING PART OF THE WAIVER. WE DO NEED THAT SIX. SIX. YES SIX TO SUPPORT IT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? THE ONLY THING I WILL ADD IS IF YOU ALL NOTICE THERE ARE TWO EXISTING NON-CONFORMING PYLON SIGNS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR RESURFACING TOO. SO ALL RIGHTY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE A 30 FOOT SQUARE FOOT SIGNAGE ON THE FRONT AND NO SIGNAGE ON THE SIDE. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A VOTING SYSTEM YET? WE DO NOT HAVE A VOTING SYSTEM YET. OKAY, SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION A SHOW OF HANDS. ALL OPPOSED. OKAY. THAT PASSES 7 TO 1 WITH COMMISSIONER ROSE IN OPPOSITION. THE MOTION WAS AS STATED. ALL RIGHT, ON TO ITEM

[c. SV 25-01 Barnett Signs (District 3)]

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COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE. THEN COMMISSIONER, I GOT JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YES, SIR. FIRST IS WHY AN ATTACHED SIGN AS OPPOSED TO A FREESTANDING SIGN? WELL, THEY ARE JUST REQUESTING AN ATTACHED SIGN. SO IT'S A WALL SIGN THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE WALL. THAT'S JUST THERE. THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. IF IT'S A CHOICE OF WHY EXACTLY THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION SPECIFICALLY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 25% VARIANCE INCREASE. WE KEEP SAYING UP TO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YES, SIR. SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO GIVE ME MY NOTES WHEN I PUT IT FULL SCREEN. BUT I HAD THE I HAD THE EXACT NUMBER ON THIS. IT WAS LIKE 22% OR SOMETHING. SO THEY'RE REQUESTING 57.21FT, WHICH IS LESS TECHNICALLY THAN THE 25% INCREASE THEY'RE ALLOWED. AND THAT 25% INCREASE IS GRANTED BY PLAN COMMISSION ONLY. AND I DID ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ON THE RECOMMENDATION. IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE LARGE SETBACK THAT THEY HAVE BETWEEN BROADWAY AND THEIR SIDE FACADE THERE, AS WELL AS A FROST BANK, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WILL BLOCK MUCH OF THEIR FACADE. LAST QUESTION FOR YOU. I PRESUME THAT WE'RE WEARING THAT WE'RE WEARING. WORDS ARE HARD. WEIGHING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ATTACHED SIGNS AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTI-TENANT, COMPLEX SIGNS. AND THAT'S 4.78 L IF THERE'S ANY INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE TWO PROVISIONS, WHICH WE'LL BE LOOKING TO, TO RESOLVE THAT, THAT CONFLICT, I GUESS I WASN'T EXACTLY SURE OF YOUR QUESTION, BUT AGAIN, I WISH I COULD. SO YEAH, WE'RE THE CODE REFERENCES FOR MULTI-TENANT COMPLEX SIGNS, VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS. AS A PART OF THAT CODE, WE'VE GOT ALSO ATTACHED SIGNS, WHICH IS BEFORE THE MULTI-TENANT PORTION. OH YES. THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN THEM. WHICH ONE ARE WE LOOKING AT? THE ATTACHED. SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF, SIR. THE, THE FIRST ONE. SO JUST WE DID GO THROUGH THE CODE AND THAT DOES TAKE PRECEDENT OVER LIKE THE MORE SPECIFIC KIND OF WALL SIGNS REGULATION BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE TWO SEPARATE SIGNS SECTIONS. IT'S JUST THAT THE FIRST ONE WAS IN THE GENERAL SIGN REGULATIONS. SO THE GENERAL TOOK PRECEDENT OVER JUST KIND OF MORE SPECIFIC WALL SIGNS. SO THIS IS ACCURATE TO WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO REQUEST UP TO FOR BEING THE SIDE SIGN OF AN ENDCAP TENANT. MULTI-TENANT BUILDING. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND THEN COMMISSIONER. PARIS. IT'S INTERESTING THAT TYPICALLYHE STAFF EITHER IS FOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST. HERE. IT'S THERE'S NO ANSWER. WHY. SO SINCE THIS WAS JUST A SIGNED VARIANCE REQUEST, WE'RE JUST IDENTIFYING IF THERE IS IF WE BELIEVE THERE'S A HARDSHIP OR NOT, AS OPPOSED TO GIVING A RECOMMENDATION AS THIS SIGN VARIANCE IS ALSO DIRECTLY APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARIS. AND LET ME 3 OR 4 TIMES I FINALLY GOT GOT THE RIGHT BUTTON. CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ON HARDSHIPS SIGN? I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE IN THE CODE. YEAH. SO HARDSHIPS. IT'S

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RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, THERE WE GO. I ALSO PASS THAT AREA IN AS YOU'RE PASSING ON THE STREET. THERE'S ALSO A SIGN THAT YOU CAN SEE OFF THE STREET. SO I MEAN, IT'S A SMALLER SIGN, BUT IT'S RIGHT THERE OFF THE STREET. SO, I MEAN, WHEN I LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS OUT HERE, AND THEN I PASSED BY, I WAS LIKE, OKAY, IT'S SOME SIGNAGE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE ANOTHER SIGN ON THE BUILDING AND THEN FROST BANK IN FRONT. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE MUCH TO ME BECAUSE THERE'S A SIGN AS YOU'RE PASSING ON THE STREET RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THIS, THIS AREA HERE. SO JUST SEEMS A BIT MUCH TO ME. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

ALRIGHTY. I'VE GOT A CARD FROM THE APPLICANT HERE. I'M BAD ON READING AND SAYING NAMES. BOYD PERRY HERE. HI. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. OKAY. MY NAME IS BARBARA BOYETTE PERRY, AND I'M. THE ADDRESS IS THE 822 EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD AT THE CENTERVILLE PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER. SO ON BEHALF OF THE CLIENT, WE DO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT EXTRA SIGN RIGHT THERE BECAUSE IT WILL BE HIDDEN FROM THAT OTHER BUILDING THAT'S BEING BUILT IN THE PROCESS OF

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SO YOU CAN SEE THE BROADWAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER JENKINS? AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE APPLICANT, IT SEEMS LIKE HAD AN OPTION. IT MAY HAVE AN OPTION TO DO, LIKE A MONUMENT SIGN. THERE'S NOT ANY FREESTANDING POLE SIGNS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE SITE.

RIGHT. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. SO. SO THE ONLY. AND THIS IS I'M HEARING, COMMISSIONER, YOU SAY ON THE STREET FROM, FROM MY DRIVE BYS OF ALL I'VE SEEN IS THE SIGNAGE THAT'S ON THE ROAD.

DO WE HAVE ANY PICTURES OR ON THE BUILDING? EXCUSE ME, ARE THERE OTHER SIGNAGE LIKE IS THERE ANOTHER POLE OR SOMETHING? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. ALL I'VE SEEN IS JUST THE ONE ON FACING CENTERVILLE, WHICH IS THE MAIN SIGN. SO IT'S ON THE BUILDING. THAT'S ON THE BUILDING. OKAY.

YEAH. AND THEN OF COURSE, WHAT THEY'RE WANTING IS A SIDE SIGN BECAUSE IT'S FACING ANOTHER BIG STREET. YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OF THE OTHER IF THERE'S ANY FREESTANDING SIGNS THERE AT ALL OKAY. NO THANK YOU. AND IS THAT SIGN GOING TO BE BACK LIT. NO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BACKLIT. IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, REGULAR CHANNEL LETTER FRONT LIT. OKAY. JUST OKAY. I THINK WE GOT INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. JUST A STAFF COMMENT HERE. I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE'S NO SIGNAGE FACING BROADWAY, NO MONUMENT SIGN, NO, NO ATTACHED SIGN, NO ANYTHING ON ALONG BROADWAY FOR THIS. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. NO. AND THAT WAS WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT. IT LOOKS LIKE SO L3PECIFICALLY SAYS IN THE CODE THAT THEY ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE A MONUMENT SIGN OR SOME SORT OF POLE SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, THEY'D BE PERMITTED TO HAVE A HANDFUL OF SIGNS. I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW BIG THEY COULD BE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THAT IS PERMITTED AS WELL AS THEY'RE PERMITTED TO HAVE THIS ATTACHED SIGN. THEY JUST COULD ONLY HAVE IT ABOUT 12FT■S SMALLER THAN WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING NOW. SO THIS ISN'T THE MOST BURDENSOME, I GUESS, REQUEST THEY COULD HAVE MADE. THEY COULD HAVE GONE BIGGER WITH A DIFFERENT SORT OF SIGN. I DON'T THINK I COULD ANSWER. I THINK THAT'S SUBJECTIVE. THAT HAVE TO BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT FOR THAT ON THE MOST BURDENSOME. BUT WE JUST FELT WITH THE SIGN OF THE SIZE IT WAS, HOW FAR BACK IT WAS WITH THE BANK COMING IN FRONT OF IT.

WE FELT THAT THERE WAS A HARDSHIP. OKAY. NO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER ABEL. AND THERE YOU GO. THROUGH THE WONDERS OF THE INTERNET. I'M LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL STREET VIEW, AND THERE IS A T-MOBILE POLE SIGN. THERE IS AN OLLIE'S POLE SIGN, BUT THE OLLIE'S POLE SIGN IS BURIED LITERALLY BEHIND TREES. FROM THIS VIEW, I CAN I CAN MAKE IT OUT BECAUSE I CAN SEE THEY'RE YELLOW, BUT THERE IS NO OTHER AVAILABLE TO THE. JUST A SECOND DISCOUNT IS ON TOP. IT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE YELLOW. YEAH, IT'S THE PURPLE. I'M LOOKING AT IT.

I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO MAKE IT OUT, BUT. AGAIN I LOOK LOOKING AT THIS AND KNOWING THIS INTERSECTION WELL THIS HARDSHIP I MEAN I THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR A 48 FOOT VARIANCE. THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS MUCH. AND THAT'S TO ME IT'S A NO BRAINER BECAUSE LOOKING AT THIS, THERE'S TREES.

BY THE TIME FROST IS THERE, BY THE LOOKING AT THIS FROM THAT CORNER WHERE T-MOBILE IS, I CAN'T SEE EITHER OF THEIR SIGNS AND I WON'T SEE THEM FROM THAT INTERSECTION. THEIR ONLY HOPE IS THAT SOMEONE DRIVING BY WILL GLANCE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SORRY, WE'RE KIND OF INTO OUR DISCUSSION HERE. THAT'S OKAY. I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN THIS CASE? OKAY, NOW YOU TWO CAN GO AT IT.

AND, COMMISSIONER PAIRS, I REQUEST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUE DISCUSSION.

SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT IS, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ONLY SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR. THAT PASSES

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT SIDES AND THE VIEW AND WHERE THAT HARDSHIP IS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MAKE YOUR MOTION. YOU STILL HAVE A MIC. SO MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPROVE THE APPROVED SIGNAGE FOR THE. GIVE ME A SECOND TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT IS WRITTEN HERE. GIVE ME ONE MOMENT. I WASN'T EXPECTING THE MOTION SO FAST. OR YOU CAN ALWAYS SHORTCUT IT BY SAYING APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. YES. OKAY, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AS PRESENTED. SECOND. OKAY. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

AND I THINK I HEARD THE FIRST SECOND. OH, OKAY. FURTHER DOWN FROM COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE VARIANCE. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. WE'LL DO THIS AGAIN BY SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR? LOOKS LIKE THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE MAKING RECORD KEEPING EASY FOR OUR SECRETARY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM TWO. D HOLD A

[d. Z 25-06 Watermill Express (District 6)]

SORRY. NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES. THIS CENTER SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY SCALED TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THIS TYPE OF CENTER IS PREDOMINANTLY, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY, NONRESIDENTIAL.

NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS ARE SERVED BY LOCAL ROADS AND TRANSIT ROUTES. THERE IS THE EXISTING KIOSK USE ON THE SITE, AND THERE ARE REQUESTING TO JUST REPLACE IT SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE AN UPDATED THEY'RE UPDATED MODEL. SO THEY'RE WANTING TO LITERALLY TAKE THIS ONE DOWN AND PUT UP THERE UP TO DATE MODEL THE USE WAS GIVEN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AS A RETAIL USE. SO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN AS A KIOSK USE, WHICH IS WHY THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN SCP IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE KIOSK. AND THESE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE SITE, AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. THIS IS SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE KIOSK. THE APPLICANT WILL BE ADDING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING SHRUBS ON THE ENTRANCE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM BUCKINGHAM ROAD AND AN ORNAMENTAL TREE. THEY'LL WORK WITH US TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPING VARIETY OR SPECIES INSTALLED THERE. AND THESE ARE JUST ELEVATIONS FOR REFERENCE. SO THE

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THE LANDSCAPING THAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT ACTUALLY REQUIRED. THEY'RE JUST OFFERING IT UP IN CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR STAFF, WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT, SAY, HEY, IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN HELP TO FURTHER BEAUTIFY THE SITE? WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS LANDSCAPING THERE ORIGINALLY, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS MAYBE DISEASED OR SOME OF IT WAS REMOVED OR NOT UP TO PAR. SO WE ASKED THEM TO INSTALL ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. BUT NO, IT'S NOT REQUIRED. DID YOU SEE THE EMAIL I HAD SENT WITH MY IDEA? YES. SO THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. AND THEN YOU CAN BRING THAT UP WITH THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY ARE LEASING TWO PARKING SPACES. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I FIGURED WE WERE OKAY IN THE PARKING. MY MAIN CONCERN THAT YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TO COVER. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S NO QUESTIONS. ALRIGHTY. RICK KELLY AND AGAIN, NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RICK KELLY. MY ADDRESS IS 5820 PALO PINTO, DALLAS. AS I SAID, MY NAME IS RICK KELLY. I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF WATERMILL EXPRESS TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PROVISION TO REPLACE OUR EXISTING WATER VENDING STATION WITH A NEWER, MORE ATTRACTIVE AND GREATLY IMPROVED MODEL. WATERMILL EXPRESS IS A LONG AND VALUED PRESENCE IN GARLAND. OUR FIRST LOCATION HERE OPENED NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO. WE NOW OPERATE 11 VENDING STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND OVER 100 ACROSS NORTH TEXAS. WE ARE PROUD TO PROVIDE CONVENIENT, AFFORDABLE, HIGHUALITY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, GREAT TASTING DRINKING WATER IN ICE. WELL, THIS PARTICULAR STATION WAS INSTALLED IN 2011. THE VENDING MODEL ITSELF WAS DEVELOPED MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO. REPLACING THIS STATION REPRESENTS A MAJOR ENHANCEMENT IN THE SERVICE WE PROVIDE AND A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT FOR US IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THIS NEW UNINIT WILL VEND ICE IN ADDITION TO WATER, A MUCH REQUESTED AMENITY BY OUR CUSTOMERS, AND INCORPORATES IMPROVED PURIFICATION AND VENDING TECHNOLOGY, ALONG WITH CUSTOMER FRIENDLY FEATURES SUCH AS CREDIT CARD ACCEPTANCE, FAST BILL AND CONTINUOUS COMPUTER MONITORING. THESE IMPROVEMENTS, COMBINED WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO DAILY SERVICE AT EVERY LOCATION, WILL HELP ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO DELIVER A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT AND GREAT CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE TO YOUR RESIDENTS. IN ADDITION TO THE PROPOSED INVESTMENT IN THE NEW FACILITY, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY STAFF TO INCORPORATE DESIGN AND LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS TO COMPLY WITH GARLAND'S CODE REQUIREMENTS AND ENHANCE NOT ONLY OUR VENDING STATION, BUT THE OVERALL ESTHETIC OF THE SHOPPING CENTER WHERE WE'RE LOCATED. IN ALL, THIS UPGRADE REFLECTS OUR ONGOING COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT AND EXPERIENCE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, AND OUR DESIRE TO REMAIN A VALUABLE ASSET TO YOUR COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME. WITH THAT IN MIND, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS SPECIAL USE PROVISION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME COMING. COMMISSIONER ROSE, IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE AND THE IN THE CITY COUNCIL, WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT MAKE THE IMPROVEMENT? AS SOON AS WE GET A BUILDING PERMIT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE. AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, I'M AN ARCHITECT, SO I DO THESE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT. AND THIS MAY BENEFIT YOU AS WELL AS THE CITY. AND I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU COULD TAKE SIX OF THOSE PARKING SPACES, TAKE THEM OUT, DO A RAISED CURB, WHICH WOULD HELP PROTECT. AND YOU COULD STILL PUT SOME BOLLARDS IN, BUT MAYBE DO SOME XERISCAPE WITH SIDEWALK LEADING TO IT. AND THAT WOULD SET YOUR NEW NICE LOOKING BUILDING. MAYBE IN A NICER SETTING. COULD BE XERISCAPE. IT COULD BE ARTIFICIAL TURF, REAL TURF, WHATEVER. BUT CREATE AN ISLAND FOR YOUR BUILDING TO SIT IN. IT'S PROTECTED FROM THE DRIVEWAY AND EVERYTHING, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE INCLUDING HERE, BUT SOMETHING FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT BEFORE THE COUNCIL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER ABLE I SEE, I SEE YOUR REQUESTING A 30 YEAR SNP AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING 15. ARE YOU AMICABLE TO 15? ARE YOU. YES, SIR. I MEAN WE OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SOME OF OUR UNITS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN GARLAND FOR. YEAH. YEAH I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE THERE AND TYPICALLY DON'T GO AWAY. RIGHT.

AND THEN SO ALL OF OUR UNITS THERE, THEY'RE PRECAST CONCRETE STRUCTURES. WE DO A HARDWEARING

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AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YEARS LATER THEY'LL PUT SOMETHING IN THERE. AND I WASN'T REALLY AWARE OF WHAT SUP STANDS FOR AND WHAT IT MEANT. SO YEAH, THAT WAS MY I'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND WE BARELY KNOW WHAT IT STANDS FOR, SO DON'T WORRY. OKAY. LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS I WASN'T SURE. AND I WENT ON THE WEBSITE AND I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING. SO I WAS JUST LIKE, OKAY, I BETTER COME UP AND THEN COME AND TALK TO YOU ALL AND GET SOME INFO. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. ALL RIGHTY. OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. OH YOU'RE WELCOME. I ALSO HAVE A CARD FOR TONG HOON. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MY NAME IS TOM NGUYEN. I'M AT 4530.

I OWN THE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE WATERMILL EXPRESS. WE OWN IT FOR A LITTLE OVER 15 YEARS. SHE WAS ONE OF MY TENANTS WHEN I FIRST PURCHASED THE BUILDING. WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE WATER WAS GOING TO BE THERE. SO WHEN IT COMES IN, IT'S TOO LATE. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT IS IT'S BUILT

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AND A LOT OF THEM WERE CONCERNING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WITH THE LOSS OF PARKING SPOT AND, AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE, A LOT OF THEM DO NOT PREFER IN NOT PREFER TO SIGN UP WITH US. SO ANYWAY, I'M OFFERING MY CONCERN AND I HOPE YOU WILL RECONSIDER THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOUR PROPERTY IS THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THIS. YES. THE SMALLER IT'S THE ONE. YES, ONE BUILDING. IT'S A STANDALONE BUILDING. YES. AND PEOPLE USE OUR ALLEY TO PARK AND JUST DRIVE THERE AND ALLOW THEM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CHEVRON. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WITH THE TWO FOOD CART, THERE'S NO PARKING SPACE ON THE SERVER. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE IS A CITY PERMIT THEM TO DO THAT TO HAVE TWO FOOD TRUCK RIGHT THERE. THAT THAT DEPENDS ON THE ZONING THERE. IF THEY'RE ALLOWED OR NOT. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT AND CHECK WITH THEM. YEAH. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CHEVRON THEY HAVE LIKE HAIRCUT PLACE AND OTHER STUFF. AND I MEAN, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY AND HOW IT WORKS, BUT FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, IT'S LIKE WE'RE CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO COMPETING COMMERCIAL THAT PRETTY MUCH OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. YEAH. AND WITH THE NEW KIOSK, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE CLEANING UP AND SO STUFF LIKE THAT. SO ANYWAY, JUST HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT AND, AND DENY THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHTY. WITH THAT, DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO COME BACK UP AND SAY ANYTHING OR. OKAY. I'M. I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THE AERIAL UP RIGHT NOW, BUT IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THERE TO BE A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. OUR UNIT ITSELF ONLY OCCUPIES TWO PARKING SPACES, AND THERE'S A LOT OF EXCESS PARKING ALL AROUND US. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD NOTE IS THAT OUR CUSTOMER, IT'S TYPICALLY A VERY QUICK TRANSACTION. CUSTOMERS ARE TYPICALLY THERE ONLY ABOUT TEN MINUTES, OFTEN LESS, BECAUSE WITH THE NEW UNIT, THEY'LL ACTUALLY PROBABLY BE THERE EVEN

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[e. Z 25-07 Jared Trozzo (District 5)]

STAFF MAILED OUT 111 LETTERS. WE RECEIVED TWO RESPONSES, BOTH IN FAVOR, ONE WITHIN AND THE ONE COMMENT WITHIN. THEY DID LEAVE A COMMENT STATING THAT THEY SUPPORTED THIS AS THEY FELT THE CURRENT ZONING WAS TOO RESTRICTIVE AND THEY FELT IT WOULD HELP EXTRA BUSINESS IN THE AREA. AND EVEN ON TOP OF THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE JUST BACK ON THE MAIN SITE, IT IS A STRUGGLING SITE AND BOTH OF THE BIG BOX BUILDINGS. I GUESS THE PHOTOS DIDN'T SHOW, BUT THE THESE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING HERE, THE TWO I USED TO HAVE A 99 CENT STORE AND AN OFFICE DEPOT. THE OFFICE DEPOT DID JUST GO UNDER, SO THAT CURRENTLY IS EMPTY. SO THIS REALLY COULD USE SOME SORT OF REDEVELOPMENT AND EXCITEMENT TO THE JUST WHOLE GENERAL LOCATION. I AM OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. I DO HAVE ONE. I NOTICED ONE OF THE ALLOWED USES WOULD BE COMMERCIAL BLOOD PLASMA TISSUE COLLECTION CONSOLE PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE

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SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR? AND I BELIEVE THAT IS UNANIMOUS. AGAIN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

[f. Z 25-10 Garland ISD (District 1)]

SO IF WE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS, WE WILL NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THEY DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT TO US, BUT WE APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED AND I'M SAYING THAT MOSTLY FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS WHO WEREN'T INVOLVED IN AND FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. DID I GET THAT CORRECT? ALL RIGHT. I LIKE I SAY, I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I SOMETIMES PLAY ONE ON TV. SO THAT WAS THAT. SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT IN BEFORE YOU STARTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A REQUEST TO GET FOR A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THE EXISTING ONE IS PD NINE 9453 WITH A BASE ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN. AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A ZONING DISTRICT FOR DATA CENTER AND WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM INDOORS ONLY USE FOR THE OPERATIONS OF THESE FACILITIES. THIS IS THE ADDRESS 2302 NEIMAN SCHOOL ROAD. THE OWNER IS GISD AND THE SITE IS ABOUT 7.643 ACRES IN SIZE. AND THIS IS THE SITE. OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS.

COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDE AREAS FOR MODERATE INCREASES IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING. IT EXPANDS HOUSING OPTIONS THROUGH INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT WHILE CONTINUING WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. THESE AREAS PROVIDE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AND NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. I WANTED TO GET THAT IN THERE.

THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, AND THIS IS A SITE HERE. AND THIS IS THE NATATORIUM THAT THE CHAIR REFERENCED UP HERE IN THIS DIRECTION. IT'S NOT COMPLETELY SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE HERE. THEY'RE PROPOSING A TWO STORY STRUCTURE TO BE ABOUT 36,983FT■. THEY'RE SHOWING A CONCEPTUAL DETENTION POND, PROPOSED PARKING AND DRIVEWAYS. COULD YOU GO BACK? AND JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE'S BENEFIT, COULD YOU POINT OUT IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER WHERE THE EXISTING HOUSES WOULD BE BACKING UP TO IT? OH,

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HOW MANY? 91. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU SAID. YES, SIR. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO COMMUNICATE OR DRIVE ON NAAMANS SCHOOL ROAD WHEN IT'S A RAT HOUSE RIGHT NOW? YES THEY ARE. I UNDERSTAND IT'S ALL DONE TO THAT POINT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO FURTHER EAST, IT'S A MESS AND IT'S GOING TO BE FOR A LONG TIME. SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE ON HERE THEY'RE PROPOSING A LEFT TURN LANE IN HERE AND A DECELERATION LANE TO GO INTO THE SITE. RIGHT TURN DECELERATION. BUT THEY CANNOT I MEAN, THERE'S RECONSTRUCTION OF NAMING SCHOOL ROAD FROM THIS POINT BASICALLY EAST TO WEST OR WEST ACTUALLY. 78, 78. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU GOT ANY IDEA WHEN THAT'S GOING TO GET DONE? I'D HAVE TO ASK THE TRANSPORTATION TEAM. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH, IT'S A GUESS. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARRISH. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO JUST ASK, WAS THERE A NEED FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY? A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR INQUIRY IS, COMMISSIONER ROSE, IS THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS. SO WAS THERE A NEED FOR A TIA FOR THIS? THEY HAD TO SUBMIT A TRIP GENERATION STUDY FOR IT SO WE CAN TALK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION TEAM. BUT WE DIDN'T SEE A TIA ON FILE FOR THIS. BUT THEY DID HAVE TO SUBMIT A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS ONE. AND AS A RESULT OF IT, THEY DID RECOMMEND THE LEFT TURN AND THE DECELERATION LANE. SO THAT WAS LOOKED AT. THANK YOU. YEAH, IT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE AND I READ THE NOTICE WHEN YOU ALL SENT IT TO US. I'M GOING DATA CENTER AND OFFICE WAREHOUSE. THIS IS A CASE WHERE THE LABELS DON'T MEET WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING THERE. IT'S PRETTY MUCH AN OFFICE BUILDING. AND IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THEY'VE TAKEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO CONSIDERATION BY CREATING THE BUFFER, THE GREEN SPACE AND THE POND AND PUT THE BUILDING TOWARDS THE BACK.

AND THEN HE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS TOWARDS BACK, AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CORRECT. I TAKE IT YOU ALL WORKED WITH THEM ON SOME OF THAT? YES. GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH.

IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND CARE TO ADDRESS ANYTHING AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, SIR.

HELLO, I'M DEREK WHITE. I LIVE AT 1871 STEVENS BLUFF LANE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. 75208. AND, CHAIRMAN ROBERTS, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. WE I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT TEAM, WHICH IS PBK ARCHITECTS. WE, US AS A TEAM, WE'RE WORKING HARD TO DELIVER A PROJECT, A PRODUCT THAT IS A QUALITY PRODUCT TO, TO GARLAND ISD. AND GARLAND ISD DOES WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND. AND I THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT. WE ARE DOING MEETING AS GOOD, GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO MEET EVERY CITY REQUIREMENT WHEN IT COMES TO LANDSCAPING, WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUFFERS, IN CONSIDERATION OF, YOU KNOW, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. AND WE'RE AND WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS

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ANY QUESTIONS. I SEE NONE I'VE GOT ONE QUICK ONE. IS THAT POND GOING TO BE DRY POND OR IT'S GOING TO BE DRY. CORRECT. IT'S A DETENTION POND CORRECT? CORRECT. AND IT'S GOING TO BE DRY, NOT WET. YEAH. MAINTENANCE IS A NIGHTMARE IN THE WET. OKAY. NOW, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH HAS A QUESTION, AND HERE WE GO. THANK YOU. SIR, A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS JUST FOR THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THE AREA. I KNOW WE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT THAT WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN HEAR IN THE PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT HAVING. LIKE UP TO 270 PEOPLE THERE A PARTICULAR TIME. WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE 200 AND, YOU KNOW, 200 PLUS INDIVIDUALS. IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S MAINLY FOR GISD, YOU KNOW, STAFF TO USE AND STUDENTS. THERE IS A TRAINING ROOM INSIDE THE BUILDING WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF THE IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO PROVIDE TRAINING TO STUDENTS AND TO STAFF, THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. BUT IT DOES ACCOMMODATE UP TO 200 PLUS INDIVIDUALS. BUT THEY EXPECT AT THIS TIME ABOUT 90, 90 INDIVIDUALS TO OCCUPY THE BUILDING. I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, SO YOU'RE YOU'RE PROVIDING PARKING FOR THAT MANY PEOPLE. WE PROVIDING BUILDING. OH YES. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. YEAH. AND I KNOW QUESTION IS AND YOU INDICATED THAT Y'ALL WERE GOING TO DO WHATEVER IS REQUIRED FROM VEGETATION AND SHRUBBERY STANDPOINT FOR TREES AND STUFF. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT DOING THERE? WELL THERE'S A BUFFER. THERE'S LIKE A 16 FOOT BUFFER ON PLEASANT VALLEY AND A TEN FOOT BUFFER ON ON NEIGHBOR SCHOOL ROADS. WE PROVIDING IRRIGATION. WE'RE PROVIDING CERTAIN LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO MEET IN GOOD FAITH EFFORT THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. TREES AND SHRUBBERY. CORRECT? YES, YES. AND I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE POND AND CHAIRMAN, ANSWER THAT QUESTION. SO THAT'S A DRY POND. THANK YOU SIR. ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. THERE'S A MENTION OF A BACKUP GENERATOR THAT'S PROBABLY FOR THE SERVERS. IF YOU MAKE THAT A CENTRAL SERVICE PLACE, IS THAT GOING TO BE LOCATED BACK IN THE MECHANICAL YARD TO AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE IS CLOSE. YEAH. IT'S IN THE BACK OF THE, THE BUILDING AND IT'S GOING TO BE SCREENED. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO REALLY BE VISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. AND YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH WAREHOUSING ALL THE LAPTOPS, ALL THE KIDS USE KIND OF THING. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. SURE, SURE. ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. OH SURE. LET ME I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR MOVING YOUR FACILITY IS THIS IS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TERM, BUT A HARDENED FACILITY FOR TO PROTECT THE EQUIPMENT FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY SITS IN A TYPE OF BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT? THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO HAVE A MORE HARDENED STRUCTURE TO PROTECT THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS. WELL, YOU.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. JUDY LANGFORD, I AM AT 776 SOUTH COPPELL ROAD IN COPPELL, TEXAS, AND I'M WITH PBK ARCHITECTS. AND YES, WE ARE IF YEAH, WE NEED THEM. WE ARE ESTABLISHING A

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I'LL SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? COME ON DOWN, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. NAME IS BOB. BOB FISHBEIN. I'M AT 1620 PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD, ALSO 1602 PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD. BOTH THOSE PROPERTIES ARE THE AG PROPERTIES DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM PLEASANT VALLEY, FROM RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THE RETENTION SITS.

WE BUILT THE HOUSE OVE THERE ON THAT AREA. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED WAS THE RETENTION POND WET OR DRY? OUR CONCERN WAS THAT THERE IS QUITE A LOT OF WILDLIFE AT NIGHT IN THAT AREA. MY CAMERAS PICK UP COYOTES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS, AND I WAS CONCERNED IF IT WAS A WET POND, IT WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THAT'S DRY. I DID WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION ON ON THE PLEASANT VALLEY SIDE, WHAT TYPE OF SHRUBBERY OR SCREENING THEY WOULD DO. SO THE FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY IS NOT FACING A PARKING LOT DIRECTLY.

WELL, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN. ONLY THE CITY HAS STANDARDS FOR SCREENING AND THEY ALSO HAVE STANDARDS FOR SCREENING OF PARKING LOTS. SO THERE LIKELY WOULD BE SHRUBS IN FRONT OF THE PARKING SPACES OR ALONG THERE. BUT THAT'S WORKED OUT WHEN THEY COME IN AND GET THEIR SITE PERMIT. AND IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT THERE IS A SETBACK AT THAT POINT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THAT YOU GUYS DIDENTION IS THAT THE INTERSECTION THERE OF NAAMAN SCHOOL AND PLEASANT VALLEY IS AN AREA THAT GETS A LOT OF ACCIDENTS, USUALLY WITH THE CARS TRAVELING UP PLEASANT VALLEY. LOOKING AT YOUR DIAGRAM, I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS IT'S GOING NORTH ON PLEASANT VALLEY. THE REASON IS, AS IT COMES AROUND, YOU'RE ON A BLIND CURVE. IT ACTUALLY IS IN FRONT OF MY PROPERTY, THE 1602 PROPERTY. IT IS A BLIND CURVE THAT COMES AROUND. YOU COME UP TO THE INTERSECTION BEFORE YOU KNOW IT'S AN INTERSECTION. SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT MAYBE WE NEED A BLINKING LIGHT FURTHER UP FURTHER SOUTH ON PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD, TO WARN PEOPLE THAT THERE'S AN INTERSECTION COMING, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER NO FOR TRAFFIC TO CONSIDER. YEAH, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO ADD. OTHERWISE, THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT A GREAT NEIGHBOR. THEY ALWAYS MAINTAIN THEIR FIELDS. GARBAGE PICKUP, MAINTENANCE IT'S ALL BEEN GOOD. SO NOTHING ELSE TO ADD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THE MOTION TO CLOS PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL CONSISTENT WITH RECOMMENDATION. AND MY. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OH. WELL, ACTUALLY OKAY, I'M GOING TO TRY TO TRAIN US TO USE THE MOTION BUTTONS. OKAY. SO IN THAT CASE I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL FIRST. AND LET ME. WELL. THEY WANT ME TO DO THIS. SO COMMISSIONER ABEL, YOU PUNCH FOR A MOTION FIRST IF WE'RE GOING TO BE 100% HONEST. THAT WAS TWO CASES AGO, BUT. OKAY, LET ME CLEAR THE MOTIONS, BUT I WILL SECOND HIS MOTION. OKAY. WE'RE WORKING WITH A NEW SYSTEM HERE, FOLKS, AND I'M OLD. WHAT CAN I SAY? OH, AND THEY GOT THE PRINT SO TINY I'M WEARING MY COMPUTER GLASSES IN ORDER TO EVEN SEE IT. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED.

AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL. SEEING NO DISCUSSION TO APPROVE. THAT'S THAT'S TO APPROVE? YES. APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SHOW OF HANDS THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD. WITH MR. DALTON

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[g. Z 25-17 Scruby's Wave Wash, LLC. (District 4)]

THIS IS THE SUBJECT LOCATION OF THE SITE. THE SITE WAS APPROVED WITH, AS I MENTIONED, PD 1741 WITH A BASE ZONING OF NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY PERMITTED TO HAVE THE AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH USE AND TO HAVE AUTO MINOR REPAIR PERMITTED BY RIGHT. IN FACT, THEIR CONCEPT PLAN ALSO REFLECT THOSE TWO USES ON THE SITE. THEY ARE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT OF USES THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR. AS I MENTIONED, CR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES TO NOT BE THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AUTOMOTIVE MINOR REPAIR NOT ALLOWED, CONVENIENCE STORE NOT ALLOWED, AND LAUNDRY SELF-SERVICE NOT ALLOWED, THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR THE CAR WASH, AUTOMOTIVE, AUTOMATED ROLLOVER AND CAR WASH. FULL SERVICE DETAIL USE TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY RETAIL BASE ZONING DISTRICT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS COMMUNITY CENTERS. COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE AREAS WITH COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY NONRESIDENTIAL, SERVING A COLLECTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF A MIXTURE OF USES INCLUDING RETAIL SERVICES, OFFICE USE, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, AND ENTERTAINMENT. THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE FROM THE RACETRACK ON THE NORTH. THIS IS VACANT SITE AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE PD 17 DASH 41 SHOWED AUTOMOTIVE MINOR REPAIR AND A CAR WASH, BUT THEY ARE NOW REMOVING THAT FROM THE ALLOWED USES. AND THESE ARE THE THREE RECEIVING LANES. THIS IS THE CAR WASH. THESE ARE THE VACUUM AREAS AND PARKING SPACES FOR EMPLOYEES. AND THAT'S THE DUMPSTER AREA. ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL BE FROM BROADWAY BOULEVARD. SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF THE AUTOMOTIVE MINOR REPAIR USE DUE TO ITS AUTO CENTRIC NATURE. IN FACT, WHEN WE'VE NOT PASSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STUDIES, WHEN WE'VE GONE OUT AND DID CHARRETTES WITH THE COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE USES THAT THEY ARE STRONGLY AGAINST IS AUTOMOTIVE MINOR REPAIR USES. SO WE DO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF THAT USE. WE DO, HOWEVER, RECOMMEND THAT THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF NEIBORHOOD OFFICE REMAIN ON SITE JUST BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT IS MORE INTENSE AND IT ALLOWS FOR THOSE, IT ALLOWS FOR THOSE USES TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE FUTURE. SO WE DO RECOMMEND, IF THEY DO WANT TO COME BACK WITH A CERTAIN TYPE OF COMMUNITY RETAIL USE THAT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

THEY COME BACK AND DO A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, BUT FOR NOW THEY ARE SHOWING THE CONCEPT PLAN AS THE AUTOMOTIVE ROLLOVER, AUTOMATED ROLLOVER, CAR WASH USE. AND THEY DID MENTION THAT THE DETAIL USED, THEY'RE NOT USING IT NOW. THEY'RE NOT THAT'S NOT PART OF THEIR OPERATIONS NOW. BUT THEYY JUST WANT THE FLEXIBILITY TO INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR USES. SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE WITH THE BASE ZONING OF NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AND WITH THE USE CHANGES THAT THEY DID MENTION. I BELIEVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I'VE GOT ONE. AGAIN, DON'T I ALWAYS IF IT CHANGES TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, DO WE STILL NEED TO PUT THE PUT THE WORDING

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I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HE'D BE INVOLVED. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS MAXWELL FISHER WITH ZONE DEV LAND USE CONSULTANTS, 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080. REPRESENTING FIELD GRADE CAR WASH. TRYING TO HIT. I DON'T SEE IT DOWN HERE. I WAS TRYING TO HIT PRESENT, BUT ANYWAY, THERE WE GO. YEAH, THERE WE GO. USUALLY AT THE BOTTOM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO FEEL GREAT. FEEL GREAT. CAR WASH IS A FAST GROWING DFW BASED CAR WASH.

THEY'VE GOT A MEMBERSHIP BASED PROGRAM, WHICH I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MOMENT. THERE'S THREE ESTABLISHED LOCATIONS DALLAS, CARROLLTON AND ARLINGTON. AND THERE'S FOUR UNDERDEVELOPED IN FORT WORTH, ARLINGTON AND DALLAS. THEY USE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY SOAPS, WATER USAGE TECHNOLOGIES. SO THAT WAY IF THERE'S ANY LEAKS, WE QUICKLY STOP THAT. SO THERE'S NOTOT AN OVERUSE OF WATER. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO TECHNOLOGY TO KEEP THE NOISE DOWN ON THE BLOWERS AND THE VACUUM. BUT THERE'S NO SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY SORT OF SENSITIVE USE HERE. BUT THEY STILL USE THAT TECHNOLOGY. STAFF MENTIONED. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S UNDERSTANDING THE FRAME, THE SCOPE OF THIS REQUEST. BACK IN 2018, THE ZONING WITH COUNCIL APPROVED REQUEST FOR BOTH AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR AND AN AUTOMATED CAR WASH ON THIS PROPERTY. SO WE'RE SIMPLY REMOVING THE AUTO AUTO REPAIR. AND SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE CAR WASH, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR AN AMENDED SITE PLAN. SO THE CAR WASH IS NOT SO CRAMMED ON THE PROPERTY. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO AN AUTO REPAIR. SO I THINK IT'S SORT OF A WIN WIN FOR THE CITY IN THIS CASE, IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A BETTER CAR WASH OPERATOR ON THE OVERALL SAME PROPERTY LAW ON THE ENTIRE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE CAN DISCUSS THE BASE ZONING AMENDMENT. WE'LL ALSO SAY THAT THIS SITE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE RACETRACK TO THE NORTH. IT'S VERY INTENSE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THE PD FOR CAR USES IS APPROPRIATE GIVEN THIS RETAIL CORRIDOR. WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AS LONG AS WE CAN OPERATE WHAT'S PROPOSED TODAY. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A COMPELLING REASON TO GO AGAINST CR, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE ALSO ELIMINATING SOME OF THE USES IN THE CR. BUT WE'D BE OKAY WITH IT IF THE COMMISSION CHOSE TO BASE IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT. SO ROUGHLY 4300 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THE DRIVE THROUGH CAR WASH, AN OFFICE EQUIPMENT ROOM. WE HAVE THREE QUEUING LANES. SO IT'S YOU CAN NOTICE WITH THE POINT OF PURCHASE IS DEEP IN THE SITE. SO WE HAVE A VERY DEEP QUEUING AREA. SO 23 STALLS WHICH IS A LOT. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO SEEKING A CROSS ACCESS POINT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT REQUIRED FROM RACETRACK. OUR TWO WAY INDEPENDENT ACCESS DRIVE

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AND THEN I MENTIONED THE NOISE DAMPENING ON THE VACUUMS. IS THEIR ELEVATIONS. WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND ARCHITECTURAL METAL. SO YEAH, WE HAVE A STRONG BRAND. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ALI SANDOVAL IF WE COULD, CHAIRMAN FOR JUST A COUPLE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THE CULTURE AND THE COMPANY AND HOW THEY GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN I'LL WRAP UP. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OKAY. YEAH. MY NAME IS ALI SANDOVAL. MY ADDRESS IS 310 SOUTH INDUSTRIAL LANE, EULESS BOULEVARD, OR EULESS, TEXAS. THANK YOU. HONORABLE PLAN COMMISSION MEMBERS AND OTHER CITY OFFICIALS FOR WORKING WITH US. I'M PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND MARKETING TEAM AT GREAT CAR WASH, AND I'M HERE TO PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT INTO OUR COMPANY VALUES, OUR OPERATIONS, AND HOW WE PLAN TO BE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE ON THE SLIDE. ONE QUALITY ISN'T A PROMISE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BUILT INTO EVERYTHING WE DO, FROM EYE CATCHING LANDSCAPING TO TOP TIER AMERICAN MADE EQUIPMENT. WE GO THE EXTRA MILE AND MAKE EVERY VISIT A GREAT ONE. OUR TEAM IS PROACTIVE. THEY'RE HELPFUL AND ALWAYS FOCUSED ON PROVIDING OUTSTANDING VALUE AND A SMOOTH AND FRIENDLY EXPERIENCE. WE LOVE BECOMING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE EASIEST THING FOR ME TO TALK FOR, TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S MY FAVORITE PART OF MY JOB. I WAS HIRED ON TO FEEL GREAT CAR WASH INITIALLY AS AN COMMUNITY OUTREACH MANAGE. IN EVERY CITY WE OPERATE, WE ACTIVELY SUPPORT LOCAL CAUSES, FROM SPONSORING FIRST RESPONDERS TO HOSTING FUNDRAISERS FOR SCHOOLS AND YOUTH SPORTS. AS WE GROW INTO GARLAND, I'M EXCITED TO BRING THE SAME LEVEL OF COMMITMENT. OUR TEAM PLANS TO BUILD STRONG PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL LEADERS, SCHOOLS, AND SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS. THESE ARE JUST A FEW PICTURES. THE ONE WITH THE LITTLE GIRLS IN THE YOUTH SPORTS. THEY'RE JUST A LOCAL BASKETBALL TEAM THAT WAS TRYING TO MAKE MONEY TO GO TO FLORIDA, AND THEY DID THAT. THEY WERE ABLE TO DO A REALLY EASY AND SAFE CAR WASH. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT IN A BIG PARKING LOT WITH LOTS OF CARS SPEEDING BY. THEY CAN COME SET UP FOR A FEW HOURS AND THEY MADE $1,000, WHICH IS ABLE TO COVER SOME OF THEIR COSTS. THEY DID GO TO FLORIDA. I HOPE THEY WON. I'M NOT REALLY SURE. THE FORT WORTH PRO FIRIGHTERS ASSOCIATION, ALL OF THE FIRST RESPONDER ASSOCIATIONS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH HAVE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL, AND WE WELCOME THEM TO WASH THEIR SERVICE VEHICLES AT ALL OF OUR SITES AT NO COST. AND THEN HERE ARE A FEW OTHER EXAMPLES OF HOW WE STAY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE. WE'RE EXCITED TO CONNECT WITH THE GARLAND COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH SPONSORSHIPS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP CORNERS. CLEAN UP EVENTS LIKE WE DID IN ARLINGTON AT THE ARLINGTON FISH CREEK CLEANUP JUST THIS JANUARY. IT WAS REALLY COLD, BUT IT WAS REALLY FUN AND VERY REWARDING.

WHEN YOU'RE MEETING PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. ACADEMY FOUR IS A MENTORSHIP THAT GO TO SCHOOLS EVERY FRIDAY AND MENTOR FOURTH GRADERS. THEY'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND SAID THAT FOURTH GRADERS ARE THE AGE THAT ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE, SO THEY SPEND TIME A

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BUT THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME AND ALLOWING ME TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE HOPE TO BECOME A PART OF GARLAND. THANK YOU. THANKS. I WILL WRAP UP. THIS IS A CHALLENGE AT THE END OF THE OF A RETAIL CORRIDOR. IT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF THE CITY LIMITS. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHATEVER DOES DEVELOP HERE THAT IT'S A ROBUST RETAILER. AND SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR USE YOU BOTH YOU GET IT'S A IT'S AN IMPULSE PURCHASE FOR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE ARE DRIVING BY AND WANT TO GET THEIR CAR WASHED. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A DESTINATION RETAILER AND THAT ITS MEMBERSHIP PEOPLE COME BACK TO IT. AND SO YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE THIS PROPERTY GO VACANT WITH THIS TYPE OF USE AS OPPOSED TO POSSIBLY SOMETHING ELSE. SO WE DO THINK THIS IS THE BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH AN ADJACENT FUEL STATION FOR CROSS SHOPPING, CROSS USE THE LANDOWNER WOULD GET LANDOWNER WOULD GIVE UP AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR USE RIGHTS THAT COULD BE BUILT TODAY WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL. AND THEN WE THINK THIS IS A SUPERIOR LAYOUT THAN THE LAYOUT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED AND PART OF THE ORDINANCE. THIS WOULD EXPAND QUALITY SERVICES AND IT IS SUPPORTED BY STAFF. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR SUPPORT AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. FISHER. I SEE NONE. THANK YOU. I JUST REMEMBERED THAT I WASN'T HAPPY WITH THE AUTOMOTIVE USE WHEN IT FIRST CAME, CAME THROUGH. SO I REMEMBER THAT. YEAH. ALRIGHTY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH? THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO THE APPLICANT AND THEIR INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY. IT MEANS A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME IN TO, TO OPERATE A BUSINESS AND BRING THE COMMUNITY WITH THEM. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHTY. COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH.

THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, I THINK, WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS. HOPEFULLY LEAVING INCREASED SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. THERE'S A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS DOWN THERE THAT COULD PROBABLY USE A FEW MORE CUSTOMERS, AND I. I REALLY THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THAT PART OF TOWN. THANK YOU. SEE NO OTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER DALTON AGAIN, YOU'RE STILL ALIVE? NOPE, NOPE. YOU DON'T WANT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE LIVE? NO, NO. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION HEADING THIS WAY? OKAY. COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, AND LET ME GET. THERE. YOU GO. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. LOVED IT. LOVE THE AREA. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS CAR WASH. I WILL BE A MEMBER. SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS AGENDA ITEM AS PRESENTED BY STAFF. OKAY, SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DESIGNATION. YEAH. AND ASSURING THAT THE OTHER USES ARE REMOVED. YES. ALRIGHTY. AND SINCE WE'RE USING THE SECOND WE HAVE MOTI BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL WHO USED THE BUTTON. TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE DIFFERENT BASE ZONING. DO WE UNDERSTAND THE MOTION, ANY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M CORRECT. THE

[h. Z 25-24 Om Estates Development (District 3)]

[01:55:01]

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A NEW PHASING PLAN TO BETTER GUIDE DEVELOPMENT. ALL OTHER REGULATIONS WOULD STILL BE REGULATED BY THE EXISTING PLAN. DEVELOPMENT 2152. SO ORIGINALLY THEY HAD A DIFFERENT PHASING PLAN. SO THIS IS THE REVISED PHASING PLAN HERE BUT WITH A CONCEPT PLAN. SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. IT WOULD IT DID HAVE A SEPARATE PHASE FOR THE TOWNHOMES IN THE BOTTOM AS WELL AS THREE OTHER PHASES. SO THE NUMBER OF PHASES DIDN'T CHANGE. BUT JUST AS THE PROJECT WENT ON IN PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT FUNDING AND JUST KIND OF GETTING THINGS SCHEDULED AND LINED UP, CERTAIN PARTS OF THE PROJECT THAT MADE THEIR THEIR ORIGINAL PHASING HARD TO COMPLETE AND WORK WITH. AND PREVIOUSLY THERE WERE SOME SOME MINOR CHANGES AND THEN TO NOW TO WHERE IT WAS JUST IT BECAME NECESSARY TO KIND OF PHASE IT. SO STAFF DID WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IN ORDER TO SECURE PROPER PARKING. ENOUGH PARKING WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE APPLICANTS AND TENANTS IN EACH PHASE, JUST TO ENSURE THAT NOBODY WOULD BE KIND OF SHORT OF PARKING THERE. AND I DBELIEVE IT IS PHASE ONE A THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT, BUT I CAN HE THE APPLICANT CLARIFY IF YOU DO HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. BUT AGAIN, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2152 OF WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING TO BE THERE. YOU KNOW, ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT IS JUST THE SAME. THIS IS JUST KIND OF OUTLINING HOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE TO ENSURE THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT AND NOT LEAVING ANYONE SHORT OF PARKING OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD DEPRIVE THEM OF JUST CONVENIENCE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS, AS WE DO FIND THAT IT WOULD BE NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY AFTER WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, AND IT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO HAVE A COMPLETE AND MORE COHERENT PARK DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARKING SITUATION. WE SENT OUT 199 LETTERS, AND WE RECEIVED ONE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST AND THERE WAS NO COMMENT. I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M READING THIS RIGHT. YES, SIR.

I'M LOOKING AT THE OLD AND THE NEW. SO WITH THIS NEW ONE, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'LL HAVE TO DO THAT MAJOR ROAD ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO DEVELOP THEIR ONE. A PROJECT WHERE BEFORE THEY PROBABLY ONLY HAD TO BRING IT DOWN, PARTIALLY BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING A CORNER FIRST? OR IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D RATHER HAVE THE APPLICANT? SO I CAN PARTIALLY TALK ON THAT. I'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT, SO I'LL JUST LET THE APPLICANT. YEAH BUT BUT YEAH. SO PROSPERITY WILL BE DONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH. BUT BUT THE BIGGEST CHANGES WERE JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE PARKING THAT ORIGINALLY EVEN WAS IN PHASE THREE GOT KIND OF MOVED TO THE OTHER PHASES TO ENSURE PROPER KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THERE. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND ALL THESE COMMISSIONER AND CITY STAFF. I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN, AFTER TWO, ONE AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS AGO, I CAME. THIS IS KEEP GOING RIGHT NOW. I DIDN'T BRING THE PICTURE, BUT IT IS COMING GOOD. LIKE IF I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE MY PHONE, BUT IT IS BUILDING IS BUILT. IT IS IT IS MORE THAN LIKE BUDGET. IT IS ALMOST LIKE 5 MILLION MORE THAN WHAT I EXPECTED ON THIS PHASE. SO, SO IT'S JUST AND THEN WHEN WE STARTED THE INTEREST RATE WAS LIKE LOW. AT THAT TIME WE WERE FOUR. NOW IT'S BECOME SEVEN AND A HALF. BUT WE ARE TRYING. BUT WE PROMISED TO DELIVER TO THE CITY OF GARLAND. AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR STAFF THAT HELPING ME TO REDESIGN AND EVERYTHING ELSE AGAIN, LIKE CURRENTLY THE PHASE WHICH ARE BUILDING RIGHT NOW IS ONE A AND THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR RECOMMENDED THAT GO WITH ONE B.

THE REASON WHY? BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO THE CURRENT BUILDING AND ALL THESE LIKE UNDERGROUND IS ALREADY IN THE IN THE GROUND. NEXT PHASE. LIKE PHASE TWO, IT WAS THE CURRENT ONE. BUT LET'S

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THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GIVE US. THE DATE ON NOVEMBER 11TH FOR PHASE ONE. A THEN WE'RE GOING TO BID AGAIN AND SEE IF WE'LL TRY TO SEE WHICHEVER BUILDING IS WITHIN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW, AS A WOMAN BUSINESS, I HAVE TRIED MY BEST TO DELIVER THIS STUFF AND WE ARE TRYING SO HARD TO FINISH THAT. SO AND I DO NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. SORRY. 310 OFFICE PLAZA, 310 EAST I-30, GARLAND, TEXAS. QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. I GUESS I'LL CONTINUE WITH MINE SO I ACTUALLY SEE SOME POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS. ONE LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE HAVING TO BUILD THAT ROAD FIRST ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND THEN YOU'LL DO ONE A, ONE B. AND SO IF THE MARKET CHANGES PHASE TWO, THAT BUILDING THAT'S OUT FRONT CAN CHANGE TO MEET THE MARKET. SO THAT'S NICE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE I THINK AMENITIES ARE OFF OVER IN THE CORNER. AND THEY'LL BE BUILT IN PHASE TWO VERSUS PHASE FOUR. SO WE HAVE TWO CLUBHOUSE, ONE CLUBHOUSE ALREADY RIGHT NOW IN THE IT'S A SMALL ONE, BUT IT'S ALREADY BUILT AND IT WILL BE READY IN TWO MONTHS OKAY. WHICH HAS THE POOL AND ALL THIS LIKE ALL THIS STUFF. BUT THERE WILL BE ONE MORE. WELL COME ON, PHASE TWO.

SO THERE WILL BE TWO CLUBHOUSE. THAT'S THE PLAN AGAIN. EVERYTHING IS A MARKET CONDITION ANAND INTEREST AND EVERYTHING WE ARE TRYING. IT WAS PHASE FOUR BEFORE SO THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S IT. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN THIS CASE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE. REALLY APPRECIATE FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT. ALRIGHTY. OH, I DO HAVE A CARD.

SANJAY GUPTA NOT SPEAKING, BUT HE'S FOR. ALRIGHTY. MOTION. OH LET'S SEE, I DIDN'T CLEAR THE LAST ONE. COMMISSIONER PARIS. I GUESS I HAVE TO CLEAR MOTIONS AFTER EACH CASE. I'M LEARNING.

YEAH. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. GIVE ME ANOTHER 20 YEARS. I'LL GET THIS DOWN. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS REQUEST AS PRESENTED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS PRESENTED. ANY DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE BY RAISE YOUR HANDS FOR. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT WAS LAST ITEM IN OUR AGENDA. AND IT IS NOW 833. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF JULY 28TH, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANKS.

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[02:11:08]

OKAY. YEAH I DON'T SEE MY VOTE SCREENING COMING UP EITHER. TELL YOU WHAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, SHALL WE DO THIS BY A SHOW OF HANDS FOR THIS ONE WHILE THEY WORK IT OUT? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST ZONING CASE TONIGHT.

ITEM TWO A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF MAC. THAT'S THE ONE WE'RE THAT'S BEING POSTPONED. IT'S ITEM TWO B. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF A SHOT. DEER REQUESTING A MAJOR WAIVER TO CHAPTER SEVEN. TABLE 7-7, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW APPROXIMATELY 102 SQUARE FOOT WALL SIGN INSTALLED THAT IS LARGER THAN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED AREA TO REMAIN ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING OF A PROPERTY ZONED DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. DOWNTOWN SUBURBAN CORRIDOR AND THE AUTOMOBILE OVERLAY DISTRICT. MAXIMUM

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AND IN THIS CASE, THIS SIGN IS BELOW 12FT, SO THEY ARE RESTRICTED TO TEN SQUARE FEET.

AND JUST USING OUR ESTIMATIONS FROM WHAT WE GATHERED FROM 2022, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 102FT■S FR THE SIGNAGE. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. SO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS BUSINESS CENTER. BUSINESS CENTERS PROVIDE A CLUSTER OF BUSINESS OFFICES AND OR LOW IMPACT INDUSTRY, INCLUDING CAMPUS TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT CUMULATIVELY EMPLOYS LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE. OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT TYPE OCCUR INTERNAL TO BUILDINGS, RESULTING IN MINIMAL NEGATIVE EFFECTS OR IMPACTS WITH SOUND, AIR TRAFFIC, OUTDOOR LIGHTING, STORAGE, AND ETC. AND ARE COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT TYPES AND ARCHITECTURE. CHARACTER, SCALE AND INTENSITY. SO THE REASON THAT THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN STANDARDS HAS THESE SIGN REQUIREMENTS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGNAGE IS WITHIN PEDESTRIAN SCALE, WITHIN REASON, BUT IF IT'S TOO LARGE, IT CAN BE CLUTTERED AND IT CAN KIND OF OVERTAKE THE FACADES OF THE BUILDING. THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO INCLUDED SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT THIS REQUEST CAME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY HAVE ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE SIDE SIGNAGE BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE REQUEST. AND THIS IS THE NORTHEAST SIDE. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SORT OF DIMENSIONS OR AREA SIZES FOR THIS SIGNAGE. IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT IS LARGER THAN THE SIGN PERMIT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED, AND ALSO IN 2022. THAT PERMIT WAS FOR 55FT■S, AND THIS SIGN DOES APPEAR TO BE LARGER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEFINITIVE DIMENSIONS. NONE WERE PROVIDED. THIS IS THE FRONT. APPROXIMATELY 102FT■S ON THE FRONT, AND TECHNICALLY IT'S LIMITED TO TEN SQUARE FEET. AND THEN WE HAVE A LARGE SIDE AT THE SIGN AT THE SIDE. SO STAFF, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BUSINESS. WE WANT THERE TO BE VISIBILITY, BUT WE ALSO WANT THERE TO BE COCOMPATIBILITY. AND WITH THE PEDESTRIAN SCALE FOR THIS AREA.

SO WE ARE SUPPORTING A 30FT■S SIGNAGE FOR THE FRONT. AND FOR THE SECOND ONE WE ARE

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AND WE DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATION LETTERS. WE SENT OUT 56, WE RECEIVED FIVE, AND IN GENERAL THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT A BUSINESS OWNER HAVING A AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. THERE WAS ALSO CONCERNS THAT THEY'VE BEEN HAVING TO MEET THE STANDARDS. SO THEY KIND OF JUST WANT THE FAIR TREATMENT. SO THAT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PRESENT FOR A PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOUERY MUCH. YES, YES I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE RASHEED ADAIR. YEAH. COME ON DOWN AND NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. GOOD EVENING GUYS. MY NAME IS RASHAD HYDER. I AM LOCATED AT 136 LAVON DRIVE. I'M REQUESTING TODAY A FORMAL VARIANCE ZONING AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE SIGNAGE AT MY BUSINESS LOCATED AT 136 LAVON DRIVE. THIS REQUEST ARISES FROM ONGOING CHALLENGES RELATED TO ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AGAINST MY PREEXISTING SIGNS. THE SIGNAGE WAS INSTALLED AT THE OPENING OF MY BUSINESS OVER TWO YEARS AGO, AND HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ESTABLISHING MY PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY. IN DECEMBER 2022, I SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO UPDATE THE SIGNAGE TO CHANNEL LETTERING. THAT'S WHEN I HAD SUBMITTED TO GET THE AND IT WAS DENIED. AND THE EFFORTS TO ENHANCE THE COMPLIANCE AND IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF MY BUSINESS. HOWEVER, THE CITY DENIED THIS REQUEST. RECENTLY, A COMPLAINT WAS LODGED BY A NEIGHBORING BUSINESS OWNER, APPARENTLY MOTIVATED BY THE COMPETITIVE INTERESTS RATHER THAN GENUINE ZONING CONCERNS. THIS COMPLAINT TRIGGERED INTENSIFIED SCRUTINY AND RESULTED IN 17 CITATATIONS TO ME OVER TIME, I'M GRATEFUL THE CITATION WAS ULTIMATELY DISMISSED DUE TO LACK OF EVIDENCE AND SUFFICIENT TRIAL.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S 17 CITATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO ME BY THE CITY. AND WHEN I WENT TO COURT, THEY DISMISSED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, 17 OF THEM. I HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS. I HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS HERE FOR YOU GUYS. SO THIS IS THE SIGN. THIS IS THE SIDE OF MY BUILDING HERE. IT SAYS AUTO REPAIR WHEELS AND TIRES. ON THE OTHER SIDE IT SAYS AUTO REPAIR WHEELS AND TIRES.

AND IN THE FRONT OF BUSINESSES IS BRAKES, WHEELS AND TIRES. I HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS. I GUESS THEY DIDN'T PRINT IT OUT. I SENT HIM AN UPDATED ONE, BUT THE SIDEWALL IS 20FT. THAT SAYS AUTO REPAIR HERE. WHERE IT SAYS AUTO REPAIR. HERE IT'S 20FT, NINE INCHES. THE ALIGNMENT IS EIGHT FEET, TWO FEET. IT'S EIGHT FEET WIDTH TWO FEET HEIGHT. THE SIDE FACIA HERE WHERE IT SAYS WHEELS, TIRES AND LIFTGATES IS 26FT. THE FRONT IS 49FT. ALL OF IT TOGETHER IT'S 49FT. AND THEN THE SIDEWALL HERE WHERE IT SAYS AUTO REPAIR IS 20FT AND THE WHEELS, TIRES 20FT, 20FT. WHEN I WENT TO DEAL WITH THE CITY OFFICIALS, THEY SAID, HEY, THE FRONT SIGN IS FINE BECAUSE YOU HAD THE SIGNS BEFORE. WE'RE NOT COMPLAINING. AND THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS THIS SIGN HERE. AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE, I HAD IT BEFORE AUTO REPAIR WAS ON TIRES. SO WILLINGNESS TO COOPERATE WITH A REASONABLE MODIFICATION. SINCE MY LAST MEETING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND MR. RAYMOND, I'VE ALREADY MADE SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING AS A COURTESY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN, WRITES. DESPITE THESE EFFORTS, THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES CONTINUE, INDICATING A LACK OF CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT SPECIFIC VARIANTS WERE REQUESTING. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT MY REQUEST IS NOT FOR UNRESTRICTED SIGNAGE, BUT A REASONABLE VARIANCE THAT RECOGNIZES THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND SUPPORTS THE CONTINUED VIABILITY OF MY BUSINESS WITHOUT CONFLICTING. THE GUARDIAN'S CONFLICTING WITH GARLAND'S OVERALL ZONING GOALS. I REMAIN TO OPEN OPENLY, WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY OFFICIALS TO CLARIFY THE SCOPE OF THIS VARIANCE AND FIND A MUTUALLY AGREEABLE SOLUTION. AND I DID THAT. THERE'S A FEW KEY POINTS. THERE'S A FEW KEY POINTS THAT I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, TELL YOU GUYS THE LONG STANDING USE AND ESTABLISH OF GOOD FAITH. MY SIGN HAS BEEN DISPLAYED CONTINUOUSLY AND OPENLY FOR OVER TWO YEARS. DURING THIS PERIOD, IT BECAME AN ACCEPTED BUT ACCEPTED PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE. THE INITIAL DENIAL OF THE CHANNEL LETTERING CHANGE REQUESTS DID NOT INVALIDATE MY EXISTING SIGNAGE RIGHTS, SO I NEVER ASKED FOR TO BE ABLE TO PUT THESE SIGNS. I ALREADY HAD THESE SIGNS THAT ALL I ASKED FOR IS THE CHANNEL LETTERING, THAT

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SHE HAD WROTE SHE HAD WROTE A AND I WANT TO READ THI TO YOU GUYS. AND THIS IS THE SAME LADY THAT I HAVE A VIDEO WITH THAT SHE'S TELLING ME THAT SHE HAS CONNECTIONS WITHIN THE CITY AND SHE WILL GIVE ME SHUT DOWN. I'VE SHOWED THIS TO THE CITY AND THEY JUST UNDERMINED IT. YEAH. WE ALL WE ALL GOT A COPY OF THIS EARLIER. GIVE ME ONE SECOND, SIR. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN READ THIS. SHE WROTE. FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS, PAYLESS TIRE HAS OWNED THE SAME FAMILY. IT'S BEEN OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY AT THE SAME LOCATION ON THE EDGE OF DOWNTOWN GARLAND. WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE CURRENT SIGN ORDINANCE AND HAVE ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS. MR. HIGHTOWER REPEATEDLY DEMONSTRATED THE DISREGARD FOR THE CITY, THE CITY OF GARLAND, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS TOLD BY MR. JERRY TROTTER. JERRY TROTTER IS THE SAME GUY THAT'S BEEN GIVING ME THE TICKETS.

SUPPOSEDLY SHE KNOWS THIS GUY IN PERSON. I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO READ THAT, BUT I WANT TO POINT BACK TO THE FACT OF THIS LADY IS CONTINUED TO HARASS ME, AND SHE'S THE ONE THAT HAS CAUSED THESE CONCERNS WITHIN THE CITY. THIS IS HER BUSINESS AND SHE HAS THE SAME SIGNAGE AS ME THAT SPANS ALL ACROSS HER BUILDING. IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME. IT SPANS RIGHT ACROSS THE ENTIRE BUILDING WITH THE SAME SIZE. THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF HER BUILDING. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S PUSHED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SO WHY IS IT THAT SHE CAN DO IT? BUT IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME TO HAVE THAT. IN CONCLUSION, GIVEN THE ABOVE, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CITY GRANT THE VARIANCE AND CONSIDER THE ZONING AMENDMENT THAT'S RECOGNIZED MY SIGN, PREEXISTING STATUS, AND IN IN INDICATES UNDUE HARDSHIP CAUSED BY RECENT ENFORCEMENT. I'M COMMITTED TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TO REACH A SOLUTION THAT BALANCES THE CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FAIRNESS IN THIS MATTER. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. DISCUSSION. MOTION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, HERE WE GO. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I AFTER AFTER REVIEWING THE APPLICANT'S MATERIALS AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. I'M AGAINST THIS REQUEST. THE PURPOSE OF THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT CODE IS TO ESTABLISH A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DISTRICT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE OF STREETS AND BUILDINGS, WHICH ATTRACT ONGOING REINVESTMENT. AND THAT'S 701. THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT IS SET FORTH CLEARLY IN THE CODE 7.3. SPECIFIES THAT MAJOR WAIVERS MUST MEET THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE DISTRICT AND RESULT IN AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE AN ATTRACTIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE DOWNTOWN, TO THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. OUR CODE REQUIRES THAT THE FONT ON THE SIGNS IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT BE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY FONTS, WHICH PRIORITIZE FUNCTIONALITY OVER EXCESSIVE STYLISTIC FLAIR TO ENSURE THE MESSAGES CONVEYED EFFICIENTLY AND ACCURATELY AND UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE APPLICANT ERECTED A SIGN LARGER THAN THE ONE HE WAS UNDER PERMIT DENIED. FOR. I BELIEVE THAT THIS APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A LARGER SIGN NOW DOES NOT MEET WITH EACH OF THE WAIVERS REQUIREMENTS. ACCORDINGLY, I AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AGAINST THIS APPLICATION AND WOULD RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REQUEST. THANK

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WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION AND. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU MADE A MOTION. NO, NO. AND THAT BEING SAID, FOR CLARITY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN. SO IT WOULD BE TWO SPECIFIC COMPONENTS OF THE APPLICATION, THAT BEING THE CORRECT SIDE AND THE NORTHEAST SIDE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I SEE NONE. CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER ROSE. OH.

MR. ROSE. ROSE. HE WANTS TO SPEAK. AND THEN I SEE YOU'RE UP HERE FOR A MOTION. COMMISSIONER ROSE. A MOTION TO, WELL, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S IT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION JUST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S IT. SECOND. YEAH. OKAY. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I SOMETIMES GO BY INTENT HERE.

OKAY. AND WHERE DO WE GO? AND I DON'T KNOW IF OUR VOTING SYSTEM IS WORKING OR FIND OUT IN A FEW SECONDS. ANYBODY'S VOTING SCREEN POPPING UP? NO, SIR. SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHTY. WE ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. AND LET ME CLEAR THE MOTIONS. AND, COMMISSIONER ROSE, EXCUSE ME. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST NOT MAKE A MOTION YET, BUT SUGGEST STRONGLY THAT WE APPROVE THE. THE INDIVIDUALS REQUEST AND DENY WHAT THE CITY IS SAYING. HE NEEDS TO COMPETE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S NEXT DOOR TO HIM OR AROUND THE CORNER. I'M NOT SURE WHERE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR FOR THAT. THAT BUSINESS TO HAVE THE BIG SIGN AND HE'S RESTRICTED TO THE SMALL SIGN. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE THE SAME. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER JENKINS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER ROSE, I THINK YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR ME TO AGREE THE CITY MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT TOOLS AT ITS DISPOSAL BY ISSUING CITATIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE IN ROUTE TO EVALUATING THOSE CONDITIONS. I DON'T HAVE THAT APPLICANT'S INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME. WHAT I HAVE IS THIS PARTICULAR WAIVER IN FRONT OF ME, THE REQUEST FOR THE WAIVER IN FRONT OF ME. AND IT'S REALLY THE IDEA THAT THE APPLICANT WAS AGAIN DENIED A PERMIT. SO SUBMITTED A PERMIT BACK IN 2022, WAS DENIED FOR THAT PERMIT FOR REASONS THAT AREN'T PARTICULARLY CLEAR TO US AT THIS POINT, AND THEN THEREAFTER PROCEEDED TO ERECT SIGNAGE THAT WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE'RE WE IF WE'RE SEEKING A WAIVER BECAUSE THERE IS FUTURE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO AGREE. BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DECISION OR AN ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY'S CODES, ORDINANCES, DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THEN SUBSEQUENT SUBSEQUENT EFFORT TO REQUEST A WAIVER.

WELL, IN THIS CASE, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO LEAVE WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND. AND IS THE INCREASE APPROPRIATE ONLY? SORRY, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS IN. WE'VE WE'VE CLOSE. WELL GO AHEAD SINCE IT'S JUST YOU COME BACK UP FOR ABOUT 30 ABOUT 30S. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE WERE THEY DENIED THE CHINA LETTERING. THEY DID NOT DENY THE SIGNAGE. THEY ONLY DENIED THE UPGRADE TO CHINA LETTERING. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL CONFUSED. MY SIGNS WERE ALREADY THERE. MY SIGNS WERE GOOD. THEY'RE ONLY DENIED THE CHILD LETTERING REQUEST. SO I THINK THAT'S THE CONFUSION THERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME MORE INPUT. SO JUST QUICK CLARIFICATION. AFTER THE REQUEST WAS DENIED, THE APPLICANT'S ARGUMENT IS THAT THE EXISTING SIGN THAT WAS THERE BEFORE THAT IS THE SAME ONE THAT THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE, THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. WE HAVE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT GOOGLE IMAGES, NOT THE SIGN THAT CAME DOWN IS NOT THE SIGN THAT WENT BACK UP. IT IS A COMPLETELY

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THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROSE AND THEN COMMISSIONER PARIS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT. WE APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND NOT SUPPORT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WOULD THAT INCLUDE BOTH? BOTH REQUESTS, BOTH SETS OF SIGNS? ABSOLUTELY. HE NEEDS TO COMPETE WITH THE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE. AND I THINK THAT PUTTING THE SIGN UP THAT HE WANTS IS WOULD DO THAT. SO I WOULD. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A WAIVER TO THE FRONT AND SIDE SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING. DO I HAVE A SECOND? ANYBODY SECONDING.

MOTION APPEARS TO DIE FOR LACK OF A SECOND. COMMISSIONER. PARIS. LET ME A LITTLE BUTTONS I HAVE TO HIT HERE, I SEE IT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE COMMISSIONER ROSE SPOKE AND WHAT I WAS WANTING TO CLARIFY WHEN WE HAD THE STAFF'S PRESENTATION IN THE BACK. NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, BUT IN THE BACK OF THE PRESENTATION DECK. THE RECOMMENDATION I THOUGHT THAT I HAD READ WAS APPROVAL OF THE FIRST AND DENIAL OF THE SECOND. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE I HAVE CLARITY ON, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT WRITTEN HERE QUITE THE SAME WAY.

NO. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL OF THE SECOND DECIDE SIGN. OKAY. ON THE FRONT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR UP TO A FOR A 30 UP TO A 30 SQUARE FOOT SIGN. BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO STANDARDS ASSOCIATED THERE. IF THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 12FT OR BELOW, THEN THE SIGN HAS TO BE TEN. THE MAXIMUM SIZE IS TEN SQUARE FOOT. IF THE BUILDING IS HIGHER THAN 12FT, THEN THE SIGN COULD BE UP TO 30 SQUARE FOOT. SO WE ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR UP TO 30 SQUARE FOOT, BUT NOT FOR WHAT HE HAS. WHAT HE HAS CURRENTLY IS 102 SQUARE FOOT, OKAY. AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON. THAT'S WHY THE DENIAL. CORRECT? CORRECT. THIS ONE. THAT'S THE ONE THAT I'M REFERRING TO. THE SIDE ONE IS WE'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL FOR THAT. THAT ONE WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON. BUT THE FRONT ONE, WE DID GATHER INFORMATION FROM THE PERMIT THAT WAS PROVIDED. THE APPLICANT DIDN'T NECESSARILY PROVIDE US THE DETAILS OF THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SIGN THAT'S INSTALLED, INSTALLED IN THE FRONT. BUT FROM WHAT WE CAN GATHER, IT'S OVER 100 SQUARE FOOT, AND WE'RE ONLY RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR UP TO 30 SQUARE FOOT IN THE FRONT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, LYNN. I AM LEANING TOWARDS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. WAS THAT A FORM OF A MOTION? I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD ONE ON THE FLOOR. OKAY. MORE DISCUSSION, ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION? NO, WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION YET. OKAY, WELL, WELL DID YOU MAKE THAT AS A MOTION? I CAN MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. I RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT THE FRONT SIGNAGE. AND THEN THE DENIAL OF THE SIDE SIGNAGE.

SUPPORT THE 30 FOOT MAXIMUM FRONT. CORRECT? CORRECT. AND NEITHER SIDE. DO I HEAR A SECOND. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS TO APPROVE UP TO 30FT■S OF THE FROT AND NOT TO APPROVE THE SIDE. AM I CORRECT ON THAT, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. NO, THAT IS CORRECT, MR. CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE CLEAR THAT WE NEED A THREE FOURTHS MAJORITY ON THIS ONE. YES, WE DO NEED A THREE FOURTHS. AND THERE ARE EIGHT OF US HERE.

AND I ACTUALLY WROTE IT DOWN. SO WE NEED SIX. WELL, YES, BECAUSE WE ARE APPROVING PART OF THE WAIVER. WE DO NEED THAT SIX. SIX. YES SIX TO SUPPORT IT. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? THE ONLY THING I WILL ADD IS IF YOU ALL NOTICE THERE ARE TWO EXISTING NON-CONFORMING PYLON SIGNS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR RESURFACING TOO. SO ALL RIGHTY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE A 30 FOOT SQUARE FOOT SIGNAGE ON THE FRONT AND NO

[02:40:06]

COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROSE. THEN COMMISSIONER, I GOT JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YES, SIR. FIRST IS WHY AN ATTACHED SIGN AS OPPOSED TO A FREESTANDING SIGN? WELL, THEY ARE JUST REQUESTING AN ATTACHED SIGN. SO IT'S A WALL SIGN THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE WALL. THAT'S JUST THERE. THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. IF IT'S A CHOICE OF WHY EXACTLY THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION SPECIFICALLY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 25% VARIANCE INCREASE. WE KEEP SAYING UP TO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YES, SIR. SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO GIVE ME MY NOTES WHEN I PUT IT FULL SCREEN. BUT I HAD THE I HAD THE EXACT NUMBER ON THIS. IT WAS LIKE 22% OR SOMETHING. SO THEY'RE REQUESTING 57.21FT, WHICH IS LESS TECHNICALLY THAN THE 25% INCREASE THEY'RE ALLOWED. AND THAT 25% INCREASE IS GRANTED BY PLAN COMMISSION ONLY. AND I DID ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ON THE RECOMMENDATION. IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE LARGE SETBACK THAT THEY HAVE BETWEEN BROADWAY AND THEIR SIDE FACADE THERE, AS WELL AS A FROST BANK, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WILL BLOCK MUCH OF THEIR FACADE. LAST QUESTION FOR YOU. I PRESUME THAT WE'RE WEARING THAT WE'RE WEARING. WORDS ARE HARD. WEIGHING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ATTACHED SIGNS AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTI-TENANT, COMPLEX SIGNS. AND THAT'S 4.78 L IF THERE'S ANY INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE TWO PROVISIONS, WHICH WE'LL BE LOOKING TO, TO RESOLVE THAT, THAT CONFLICT, I GUESS I WASN'T EXACTLY SURE OF YOUR QUESTION, BUT AGAIN, I WISH I COULD. SO YEAH, WE'RE THE CODE REFERENCES FOR MULTI-TENANT COMPLEX SIGNS, VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS. AS A PART OF THAT CODE, WE'VE GOT ALSO ATTACHED SIGNS, WHICH IS BEFORE THE MULTI-TENANT PORTION. OH YES. THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN THEM. WHICH ONE ARE WE LOOKING AT? THE ATTACHED. SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF, SIR. THE, THE FIRST ONE. SO JUST WE DID GO THROUGH THE CODE AND THAT DOES TAKE PRECEDENT OVER LIKE THE MORE SPECIFIC KIND OF WALL SIGNS REGULATION BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE TWO SEPARATE SIGNS SECTIONS. IT'S JUST THAT THE FIRST ONE WAS IN THE GENERAL SIGN REGULATIONS. SO THE GENERAL TOOK PRECEDENT OVER JUST KIND OF MORE SPECIFIC WALL SIGNS. SO THIS IS ACCURATE TO WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWEDED TO REQUEST UP TO R BEING THE SIDE SIGN OF AN ENDCAP TENANT. MULTI-TENANT BUILDING. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND THEN

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RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, THERE WE GO. I ALSO PASS THAT AREA IN AS YOU'RE PASSING ON THE STREET. THERE'S ALSO A SIGN THAT YOU CAN SEE OFF THE STREET. SO I MEAN, IT'S A SMALLER SIGN, BUT IT'S RIGHT THERE OFF THE STREET. SO, I MEAN, WHEN I LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS OUT HERE, AND THEN I PASSED BY, I WAS LIKE, OKAY, IT'S SOME SIGNAGE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE ANOTHER SIGN ON THE BUILDING AND THEN FROST BANK IN FRONT. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE MUCH TO ME BECAUSE THERE'S A SIGN AS YOU'RE PASSING ON THE STREET RIGHT THERE IN

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ALRIGHTY. I'VE GOT A CARD FROM THE APPLICANT HERE. I'M BAD ON READING AND SAYING NAMES. BOYD PERRY HER HI. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. OKAY. MY NAME IS BARBARA BOYETTE PERRY, AND I'M. THE ADDRESS IS THE 822 EAST CENTERVILLE ROAD AT THE CENTERVILLE PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER. SO ON BEHALF OF THE CLIENT, WE DO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT EXTRA SIGN RIGHT THERE BECAUSE IT WILL BE HIDDEN FROM THAT OTHER BUILDING THAT'S BEING BUILT IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING. AND IT IS ON A PRETTY BUSY STREET, BROADWAY, I THINK IT IS. YEAH, BROADWAY. AND I DON'T RECALL. I GUESS IT WAS YOU THAT SAID THERE WAS ANOTHER STREET. I MEAN, ANOTHER SIGN RIGHT HERE. OKAY, I DIDN'T I GUESS I DIDN'T SEE THAT THIS IS THE ACTUAL GOOGLE FROM FAR AWAY.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE BROADWAY. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER JENKINS? AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE APPLICANT, IT SEEMS LIKE HAD AN OPTION. IT MAY HAVE AN OPTION TO DO, LIKE A MONUMENT SIGN. THERE'S NOT ANY FREESTANDING POLE SIGNS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THE SITE.

RIGHT. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. SO. SO THE ONLY. AND THIS IS I'M HEARING, COMMISSIONER, YOU SAY ON THE STREET FROM, FROM MY DRIVE BYS OF ALL I'VE SEEN IS THE SIGNAGE THAT'S ON THE ROAD.

DO WE HAVE ANY PICTURES OR ON THE BUILDING? EXCUSE ME, ARE THERE OTHER SIGNAGE LIKE IS THERE ANOTHER POLE OR SOMETHING? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. ALL I'VE SEEN IS JUST THE ONE ON FACING CENTERVILLE, WHICH IS THE MAIN SIGN. SO IT'S ON THE BUILDING. THAT'S ON THE BUILDING. OKAY.

YEAH. AND THEN OF COURSE, WHAT THEY'RE WANTING IS A SIDE SIGN BECAUSE IT'S FACING ANOTHER BIG STREET. YEAH, YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OF THE OTHER IF THERE'S ANY FREESTANDING SIGNS THERE AT ALL OKAY. NO THANK YOU. AND IS THAT SIGN GOING TO BE BACK LIT. NO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BACKLIT. IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, REGULAR CHANNEL LETTER FRONT LIT. OKAY. JUST OKAY. I THINK WE GOT INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. JUST A STAFF COMMENT HERE. I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE'S NO SIGNAGE FACING BROADWAY, NO MONUMENT SIGN, NO, NO ATTACHED SIGN, NO ANYTHING ON ALONG BROADWAY FOR THIS. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. NO. AND THAT WAS WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT. IT LOOKS LIKE SO L3 SPECIFICALLY SAYS IN THE CODE THAT THEY ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE A MONUMENT SIGN OR SOME SORT OF POLE SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, THEY'D BE PERMITTED TO HAVE A HANDFUL OF SIGNS. I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW BIG THEY COULD BE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THAT IS PERMITTED AS WELL AS THEY'RE PERMITTED TO HAVE THIS ATTACHED SIGN. THEY JUST COULD ONLY HAVE IT ABOUT 12FT■S SMALLER THAN WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING NOW. SO THIS ISN'T THE MOST BURDENSOME, I GUESS, REQUEST THEY COULD HAVE MADE. THEY COULD HAVE GONE BIGGER WITH A DIFFERENT SORT OF SIGN. I DON'T THINK I COULD ANSWER. I THINK THAT'S SUBJECTIVE. THAT HAVE TO BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT FOR THAT ON THE MOST BURDENSOME. BUT WE JUST FELT WITH THE SIGN OF THE SIZE IT WAS, HOW FAR BACK IT WAS WITH THE BANK COMING IN FRONT OF IT.

WE FELT THAT THERE WAS A HARDSHIP. OKAY. NO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER ABEL. AND THERE YOU GO. THROUGH THE WONDERS OF THE INTERNET. I'M LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL STREET VIEW, AND THERE IS A T-MOBILE POLE SIGN. THERE IS AN OLLIE'S POLE SIGN, BUT THE OLLIE'S POLE SIGN IS BURIED LITERALLY BEHIND TREES. FROM THIS VIEW, I CAN I CAN MAKE IT OUT BECAUSE I CAN SEE THEY'RE YELLOW, BUT THERE IS NO OTHER AVAILABLE TO THE. JUST A SECOND DISCOUNT IS ON TOP. IT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE YELLOW. YEAH, IT'S THE PURPLE. I'M LOOKING AT IT.

I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO MAKE IT OUT, BUT. AGAIN I LOOK LOOKING AT THIS AND KNOWING THIS INTERSECTION WELL THIS HARDSHIP I MEAN I THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR A 48 FOOT VARIANCE. THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS MUCH. AND THAT'S TO ME IT'S A NO BRAINER BECAUSE LOOKING AT THIS, THERE'S TREES.

BY THE TIME FROST IS THERE, BY THE LOOKING AT THIS FROM THAT CORNER WHERE T-MOBILE IS, I

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AND, COMMISSIONER PAIRS, I REQUEST TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUE DISCUSSION.

SESECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT IS, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ONLY SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE IN DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER PAIRS. AND I THINK YOUR MIC IS STILL LIVE. IT IS. SO I DO PASS THIS THIS FREQUENTLY, THIS LOCATION. THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT I'M CONSIDERING IS THE SIGNAGE THAT FACES BROADWAY. AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SIGNAGE THAT FACES CENTERVILLE. I WILL SAY, AND I'VE LIVED IN SOUTH GARLAND OVER 30 YEARS, AND WHAT I'VE SEEN ON THE SIDE THAT FACES BROADWAY, THERE IS A HARDSHIP WHEN I WHEN WE REALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NOT GREAT VISIBILITY TO SIGNAGE. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CENTERVILLE, I THINK THERE IS GOOD. I SEE I SEE THE SIGN ALL THE TIME WHEN I PASSED ON CENTERVILLE, AND IT'S THE SIGN THAT'S ON THE BUILDING, SO I'M IN. I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT DISCUSSION. I DO HAVE RECOMMENDATION. I WANT TO FINISH DISCUSSION. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE THAT CLARIFICATION.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT SIDES AND THE VIEW AND WHERE THAT HARDSHIP IS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MAKE YOUR MOTION. YOU STILL HAVE A MIC. SO MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPROVE THE APPROVED SIGNAGE FOR THE. GIVE ME A SECOND TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT IS WRITTEN HERE. GIVE ME ONE MOMENT. I WASN'T EXPECTING THE MOTION SO FAST. OR YOU CAN ALWAYS SHORTCUT IT BY SAYING APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. YES. OKAY, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AS PRESENTED. SECOND. OKAY. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

AND I THINK I HEARD THE FIRST SECOND. OH, OKAY. FURTHER DOWN FROM COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE VARIANCE. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. WE'LL DO THIS AGAIN BY SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR? LOOKS LIKE THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE MAKING RECORD KEEPING EASY FOR OUR SECRETARY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM TWO. D HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE APPLICATION OF WATERMILL EXPRESS. REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A KIOSK, SELF-SERVICE, RETAIL ICE, WATER, ETC. USE AND TWO A CONCEPT PLAN FOR KIOSK, SELF-SERVICE RETAIL ICE WATER USE SITE IS LOCATED AT 4550 WEST BUCKINGHAM ROAD. AGAIN. COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR AN SCP FOR KIOSK SELF-SERVICE, RETAIL, ICE, WATER, ETC. ON THE PROPERTY. ZONED COMMUNITY. RETAIL. THIS IS THE SITE'S LOCATION. PROPERTY'S ADDRESS IS 4550 WEST BUCKINGHAM ROAD, AND THE ENTIRE SITE IS ABOUT 3.052 ACRES. THERE IS A CURRENT KIOSK ON SITE, AND IT IS WITHIN A PLAZA THAT HAS A RESTAURANT, A EVENTS FACILITY, AND A SUPERMARKET GROCERY STORE. THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN HAS IDENTIFIED THIS AREA AS NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. NEIGHBORHOOD. NEIGHBORHOOD.

SORRY. NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES. THIS CENTER SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY SCALED TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THIS TYPE OF CENTER IS PREDOMINANTLY, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY, NONRESIDENTIAL.

NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS ARE SERVED BY LOCAL ROADS AND TRANSIT ROUTES. THERE IS THE EXISTING KIOSK USE ON THE SITE, AND THERE ARE REQUESTING TO JUST REPLACE IT SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE AN UPDATED THEY'RE UPDATED MODEL. SO THEY'RE WANTING TO LITERALLY TAKE THIS ONE DOWN AND PUT UP

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THE LANDSCAPING THAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT ACTUALLY REQUIRED. THEY'RE JUST OFFERING IT UP IN CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR STAFF, WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT, SAY, HEY, IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN HELP TO FURTHER BEAUTIFY THE SITE? WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS LANDSCAPING THERE ORIGINALLY, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS MAYBE DISEASED OR SOME OF IT WAS REMOVED OR NOT UP TO PAR. SO WE ASKED THEM TO INSTALL ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. BUT NO, IT'S NOT REQUIRED. DID YOU SEE THE EMAIL I HAD SENT WITH MY IDEA? YES. SO THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. AND THEN YOU CAN BRING THAT UP WITH THE APPLICANT BECAUSUSE THEY ARE LEASING TWO PARKING SPACES. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I FIGURED WE WERE OKAY IN THE PARKING. MY MAIN CONCERN THAT YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TO COVER. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S NO QUESTIONS. ALRIGHTY. RICK KELLY AND AGAIN, NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RICK KELLY. MY ADDRESS IS 5820 PALO PINTO, DALLAS. AS I SAID, MY NAME IS RICK KELLY. I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF WATERMILL EXPRESS TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PROVISION TO REPLACE OUR EXISTING WATER VENDING STATION WITH A NEWER, MORE ATTRACTIVE AND GREATLY IMPROVED MODEL. WATERMILL EXPRESS IS A LONG AND VALUED PRESENCE IN GARLAND. OUR FIRST LOCATION HERE OPENED NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO. WE NOW OPERATE 11 VENDING STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND OVER 100 ACROSS NORTH TEXAS. WE ARE PROUD TO PROVIDE CONVENIENT, AFFORDABLE, HIGH QUALITY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, GREAT TASTING DRINKING WATER IN ICE. WELL, THIS PARTICULAR STATION WAS INSTALLED IN 2011. THE VENDING MODEL ITSELF WAS DEVELOPED MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO. REPLACING THIS STATION REPRESENTS A MAJOR ENHANCEMENT IN THE SERVICE WE PROVIDE AND A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT FOR US IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THIS NEW UNIT WILL VEND ICE IN ADDITION TO WATER, A MUCH REQUESTED AMENITY BY OUR CUSTOMERS, AND INCORPORATES IMPROVED PURIFICATION AND VENDING TECHNOLOGY, ALONG WITH CUSTOMER FRIENDLY FEATURES SUCH AS CREDIT CARD ACCEPTANCE, FAST BILL AND CONTINUOUS COMPUTER MONITORING. THESE IMPROVEMENTS, COMBINED WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO DAILY SERVICE AT EVERY LOCATION, WILL HELP ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO DELIVER A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT AND GREAT CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE TO YOUR RESIDENTS. IN ADDITION TO THE PROPOSED INVESTMENT IN THE NEW FACILITY, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY STAFF TO INCORPORATE DESIGN AND LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS TO COMPLY WITH GARLAND'S CODE REQUIREMENTS AND ENHANCE NOT ONLY OUR VENDING STATION, BUT THE OVERALL ESTHETIC OF THE SHOPPING CENTER WHERE WE'RE LOCATED. IN ALL, THIS UPGRADE REFLECTS OUR ONGOING COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT AND EXPERIENCE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, AND OUR DESIRE TO REMAIN A VALUABLE ASSET TO YOUR COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME. WITH THAT IN MIND, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS SPECIAL USE PROVISION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME COMING. COMMISSIONER ROSE, IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE AND THE IN THE CITY COUNCIL, WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT MAKE THE IMPROVEMENT? AS SOON AS WE GET A BUILDING PERMIT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE. AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, I'M AN ARCHITECT, SO I DO THESE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT. AND THIS MAY BENEFIT YOU AS WELL AS THE CITY. AND I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU COULD TAKE SIX OF THOSE PARKING SPACES, TAKE THEM OUT, DO A RAISED CURB, WHICH WOULD HELP PROTECT. AND YOU COULD STILL PUT SOME BOLLARDS IN, BUT MAYBE DO

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AND THEN SO ALL OF OUR UNITS THERE, THEY'RE PRECAST CONCRETE STRUCTURES. WE DO A HARDWEARING OR LONG WEARING ARCHITECTURAL FINISH ON THEM. BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE ALMOST LIKE LITTLE STORM SHELTERS. WE'VE GOT UNITS, SOME OF THESE OLD UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN IN SERVICE IN 30 YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE REFRESHED, THEY LOOK THEY LOOK BRAND NEW. SO WE WANT TO BE HERE AS LONG AS WE CAN, AS LONG AS OUR CONCEPT IS VIABLE. S 30 YEARS WOULD BE GREAT, BUT WE CAN LIVE WITH 15 IF THAT'S IF THAT'S I'M READING. I'M READING YOUR 170 MILE PER HOUR WIND RATING AND SEISMIC RATINGS. WE TOOK A DIRECT HIT FROM, I BELIEVE IT WAS HARVEY THAT HIT ROCKPORT AND PART OF PART OF HOUSTON IN PORT ARANSAS. THE ONLY THING IT DID. SO ROCKPORT WAS DEVASTATED. ALL IT DID WAS BLOW OUT. OUR SIGN FACES THEIR STOUT LITTLE UNITS. THANK YOU. SEE? NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS HERE, SO I MAY BE CALLING YOU BACK UP FOR REBUTTAL. MINDY WHO? AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY MISPRONUNCIATIONS. I'VE GOT A MASTER'S IN THAT. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT. I'M HERE MAINLY. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. I'M SO SORRY. GET CLOSER. I'M HERE MAINLY BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY SURE. EXACTLY. I GOT THE FORM AND I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THE ZONING CHANGE. LIKE. BECAUSE THE KIOSK IS ALREADY THERE. OH, I'M SO SORRY. MY OFFICE IS AT 4530 BUCKINGHAM, SO I'M RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE EYE CLINIC RIGHT THERE. AND I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2009. AND SO MY QUESTION IS WHY THE ZONING CHANGE? AND MY WORRIES IS THAT IF THEY DO THAT, CAN THEY PUT SOMETHING ON THERE LATER ON THAT I'M JUST NOT REALLY SURE WHAT ALL IT IS. IT'S I'M ALSO OPPOSED FOR OTHER REASONS TOO, BUT THAT WAS MY MAIN ONE. IT'S CALLED A SPECIAL USE PROVISION. I BELIEVE THAT WAS PUT THERE BEFORE WE HAD SPECIAL USE PROVISION REQUIREMENT FOR THAT TYPE OF ZONING, WHICH THEY'RE PUTTING A NEW BUILDING IN. IT TRIGGERED THE REQUIREMENT THAT HE GET APPROVAL TO PUT THE NEW BUILDING IN. I'M PRETTY MUCH CORRECT ON THAT. AND THEN AND THE 15 YEARS IS WHAT'S RECOMMENDED BY OUR. SO YES, SIR. YOU'RE COMPLETELY CORRECT. THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT TO ADD IS THAT NO, NOTHING ELSE CAN BE PUT IN THERE. THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION IS SPECIFIC TO THIS KIOSK. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT CAN GO IN THERE THROUGH THIS SUP. BECAUSE WHEN I OBJECTED TO THIS I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. AND BUT YOU KNOW, THE THING WITH THAT IS THAT INTERSECTION IS SUPER BUSY IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT AT ALL THE CHEVRONS THERE. AND I HAVE SO MANY VEHICLES PARKING ON MY SIDE BECAUSE THE IN AND OUT IS VERY HARD. SO IF THEY PARK ON MY SIDE AND GO OUT THAT WAY, YOU KNOW THEY CAN GO LEFT. SO AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TRY TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC SIGNS. AND SO WE HAVE PEOPLE ZOOMING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT. IT'S DANGEROUS. AND WE ALSO HAVE A HOMELESS PROBLEM THERE TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE OFFICERS LIKE DON'T EVEN CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY, CALL THE EMERGENCY SO THEY CAN COME OUT AND TELL THEM THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A DRIVE AROUND AND THEY'RE SITTING THERE AND I'M JUST AFRAID ONE OF THESE DAYS I'LL COME OUT AND THERE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, A FATALITY OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST PARKING THERE. BUT THE KEY THING IS WE HAVE SO MANY TRAFFIC THAT IS A VERY HIGH TRAFFIC AREA AND LOTS AND LOTS OF ACCIDENTS, ESPECIALLY TRYING TO TURN LEFT TO GO BACK ON. SO THAT WAS MY CONCERN. I MEAN, OKAY, OKAY. SINCE IT'S THE SAME USE THAT'S ALREADY THERE. RIGHT. AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WHEN YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING THING, I'M LIKE, OH, WHY DOES IT REQUIRE A ZONING CHANGE TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY THERE? AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YEARS LATER THEY'LL PUT SOMETHING IN THERE. AND I WASN'T REALLY AWARE OF WHAT SUP STANDS FOR AND WHAT IT MEANT. SO YEAH, THAT WAS MY I'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND WE BARELY KNOW WHAT IT STANDS FOR, SO DON'T WORRY. OKAY. LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS I

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I OWN THE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE WATERMILL EXPRESS. WE OWN IT FOR A LITTLE OVER 15 YEARS. SHE WAS ONE OF MY TENANTS WHEN I FIRST PURCHASED THE BUILDING. WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE WATER WAS GOING TO BE THERE. SO WHEN IT COMES IN, IT'S TOO LATE. WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT IS IT'S BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO OUR PARK, OUR PROPERTY LINE. SO AFTER A FEW YEARS HEAVY TRAFFIC, I HAD TO PAY FOR THE REPAIR OF THE PARKING LOT DUE TO THE CITY SAY THAT IT'S NOT GOOD. WE HAVE WITH THE OPENING OF THAT. THE PARKING LOT, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACE HAS BEEN REDUCED GREATLY AND A LOT PEOPLE PARK OVER TO OUR SIDE FOR SHOPPING WITH THE AND A LOT OF TIME THEY LEAVE CARTS AND OTHER STUFF THERE. MY TENANT OPENED LIKE FIVE DAYS A WEEK, BUT THE SUPERMARKET AND THE AND THE RESTAURANT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS 24 OVER SEVEN OR PRETTY MUCH LIKE THAT. ALL THE TRAFFIC THERE, PEOPLE LEAVE STUFF AND WITH THE WITH THE NEW, WITH THE NEW KIOSK, THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN LANDSCAPE SOMETHING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN MAKE IT LOOK ANY PRETTIER. THEY HAVE LIKE STEEL PIPE TO PROTECT IT FROM CAR RUNNING OVER IT. SO. I DO NOT WANT THE TRAFFIC TO BE HEAVIER. AND ALSO I PREFER A WAY TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE MOST OF IT WILL BE DRIVING ON MY PROPERTY AND I HAVE TO PAY FOR THE REPAIR. AND THE KIOSK. THE SEVEN RIGHT NEXT TO US THEY ALREADY OFFER SELF-SERVICE ICE, SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO EXPAND TO HAVE TWO COMPETING. FOR THE SAME PRODUCT. ALSO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CHEVRON NEXT TO US, THEY HAVE LIKE TWO TRAILER OF FOOD CART PARKED ON THEIR ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT LIMITED THEIR PARKING SPACE. SO A LOT OF THEIR CUSTOMERS END UP PARKING IN OUR SPACE. SO WE CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO COMPETING MERCHANTS. AND I'M TRYING TO LURE NEW TENANT IN.

AND A LOT OF THEM WERE CONCERNING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WITH THE LOSS OF PARKING SPOT AND, AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE, A LOT OF THEM DO NOT PREFER IN NOT PREFER TO SIGN UP WITH US. SO ANYWAY, I'M OFFERING MY CONCERN AND I HOPE YOU WILL RECONSIDER THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOUR PROPERTY IS THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THIS. YES. THE SMALLER IT'S THE ONE. YES, ONE BUILDING. IT'S A STANDALONE BUILDING. YES. AND PEOPLE USE OUR ALLEY TO PARK AND JUST DRIVE THERE AND ALLOW THEM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CHEVRON. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WITH THE TWO FOOD CART, THERE'S NO PARKING SPACE ON THE SERVER. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE IS A CITY PERMIT THEM TO DO THAT TO HAVE TWO FOOD TRUCK RIGHT THERE. THAT THAT DEPENDS ON THE ZONING THERE. IF THEY'RE ALLOWED OR NOT. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT AND CHECK WITH THEM. YEAH. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CHEVRON THEY HAVE LIKE HAIRCUT PLACE AND OTHER STUFF. AND I MEAN, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY AND HOW IT WORKS, BUT FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, IT'S LIKE WE'RE CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO COMPETING COMMERCIAL THAT PRETTY MUCH OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. YEAH. AND WITH THE NEW KIOSK, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE CLEANING UP AND SO STUFF LIKE THAT. SO ANYWAY, JUST HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT AND, AND DENY THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

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SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR? AND I BELIEVE THAT IS UNANIMOUS. AGAIN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ONE. ITEM 2FZ 25 DASH TEN. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF GARLAND ISD REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A ZONING CHANGE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 94 DASH 53 WITH A BASE ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN TO A NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR DATA CENTER AND WAREHOUSE, OFFICE SHOWROOM, OFFICE SLASH SHOWROOM, INDOOR ONLY USE AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR DATA CENTER AND WAREHOUSE, OFFICE SHOWROOM. INDOOR USE SITE IS LOCATED AT 2302 NAAMAN SCHOOL ROAD. AND BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE SOMETHING. LET ME GET TO MY NOTES HERE. IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FROM THE GARLAND INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS FOR THE NATATORIUM AND IT WAS A PD, AND I WANTED TO ADD THE CONDITION THAT THEY NOT BE ALLOWED TO PARK BUSSES BACK BEHIND. AND I WAS INFORMED THAT INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE UNIQUE AND THAT COMES OUT OF CITY OF ADDISON VERSUS DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHERE THEY WANTED TO PARK. CITY OF ADDISON OBJECTED TO THEM PARKING BUSSES AT THE STADIUM. AND THE RESULT JUST QUICKLY ON THAT IS. THE COURT HELD THAT SCHOOL AUTHORITY PREDOMINATES OVER ZONING POWER OF A MUNICIPALITY, ABSENT A CLAIM OF UNREASONABLE EXERCISE OF POWER OR OF NUISANCE. AND ANOTHER WAY OF SUMMARIZING IT, THE ZONING AUTHORITY OF A MUNICIPALITY IS SUBSERVNT TO THE REASONABLE EXERCISE OF A SCHOOL DISTRICT AUTHORITY. SO WHAT? THIS IS, IN ESSENCE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT, BUT THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE WANTED TO CONTINUE.

SO IF WE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS, WE WILL NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THEY DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT TO US, BUT WE APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED AND I'M SAYING THAT MOSTLY FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS WHO WEREN'T INVOLVED IN AND FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. DID I GET THAT CORRECT? ALL RIGHT. I LIKE I SAY, I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I SOMETIMES PLAY ONE ON TV. SO THAT WAS THAT. SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT IN BEFORE YOU STARTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A REQUEST TO GET FOR A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THE EXISTING ONE IS PD NINE 9453 WITH A BASE ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN. AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A ZONING DISTRICT FOR DATA CENTER AND WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM INDOORS ONLY USE FOR THE OPERATIONS OF THESE FACILITIES. THIS IS THE ADDRESS 2302 NEIMAN SCHOOL ROAD. THE OWNER IS GISD AND THE SITE IS ABOUT 7.643 ACRES IN SIZE. AND THIS IS THE SITE. OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS.

COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDE AREAS FOR MODERATE INCREASES IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING. IT EXPANDS HOUSING OPTIONS THROUGH INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT WHILILE CONTINUING WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. THESE

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THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, AND THIS IS A SITE HERE. AND THIS IS THE NATATORIUM THAT THE CHAIR REFERENCED UP HERE IN THIS DIRECTION. IT'S NOT COMPLETELY SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE HERE. THEY'RE PROPOSING A TWO STORY STRUCTURE TO BE ABOUT 36,983FT■. THEY'RE SHOWING A CONCEPTUAL DETENTION POND, PROPOSED PARKING AND DRIVEWAYS. COULD YOU GO BACK? AND JUST FOR THE AUDIENCE'S BENEFIT, COULD YOU POINT OUT IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER WHERE THE EXISTING HOUSES WOULD BE BACKING UP TO IT? OH, YEAH. THE HOUSES ARE HERE. YEAH, THOSE TWO HOUSES ARE OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THERE'S EXISTING SCREENING THERE. SO THE PURPOSE OF THE BUILDING WILL BE TO HOUSE THE IT DEPARTMENT. IT WILL BE TO HOUSE THE STAFF, THE DATA CENTERS, THE EQUIPMENT AND THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THAT THERE WILL BE ABOUT 91 EMPLOYEES ON SITE. SO IT WILL BASICALLY OPERATE AS AN OFFICE BUILDING FOR GISD FACILITIES. AND THIS IS THE REQUEST AND IT IS CURRENTLY THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT IS SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN STAFF RECOMMENDS IT BE A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES BASED ZONING DISTRICT, AND ALLOWS THEM TO GO UP TO A HEIGHT OF 35FT. CURRENTLY, IT'S ONE STORY IN NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. AND WE DID RECEIVE FIVE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST. AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE AND STAFF IS ALSO AVAILABLE. OKAY. I THINK COMMISSIONER ROSE HAS A QUESTION. YES, SIR. MY QUESTION IS WHEN DO YOU REALLY THINK NAAMANS SCHOOL ROAD IS GOING TO BE FINISHED? BECAUSE WITH HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU SAY THEY WERE GOING TO EMPLOY THERE? 91.

HOW MANY? 91. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU SAID. YES, SIR. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO COMMUNICATE OR DRIVE ON NAAMANS SCHOOL ROAD WHEN IT'S A RAT HOUSE RIGHT NOW? YES THEY ARE. I UNDERSTAND IT'S ALL DONE TO THAT POINT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO FURTHER EAST, IT'S A MESS AND IT'S GOING TO BE FOR A LONG TIME. SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE ON HERE THEY'RE PROPOSING A LEFT TURN LANE IN HERE AND A DECELERATION LANE TO GO INTO THE SITE. RIGHT TURN DECELERATION. BUT THEY CANNOT I MEAN, THERE'S RECONSTRUCTION OF NAMING SCHOOL ROAD FROM THIS POINT BASICALLY EAST TO WEST OR WEST ACTUALLY. 78, 78. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU GOT ANY IDEA WHEN THAT'S GOING TO GET DONE? I'D HAVE TO ASK THE TRANSPORTATION TEAM. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH, IT'S A GUESS. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARRISH. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO JUST ASK, WAS THERE A NEED FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY? A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR INQUIRY IS, COMMISSIONER ROSE, IS THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS. SO WAS THERE A NEED FOR A TIA FOR THIS? THEY HAD TO SUBMIT A TRIP GENERATION STUDY FOR IT SO WE CAN TALK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION TEAM. BUT WE DIDN'T SEE A TIA ON FILE FOR THIS. BUT THEY DID HAVE TO SUBMIT A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THIS ONE. AND AS A RESULT OF IT, THEY DID RECOMMEND THE LEFT TURN AND THE DECELERATION LANE. SO THAT WAS LOOKED AT. THANK YOU. YEAH, IT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE AND I READ THE NOTICE WHEN YOU ALL SENT IT TO US. I'M GOING DATA CENTER AND OFFICE WAREHOUSE. THIS IS A CASE WHERE THE LABELS DON'T MEET WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING THERE. IT'S PRETTY MUCH AN OFFICE BUILDING. AND IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THEY'VE TAKEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO CONSIDERATION BY CREATING THE BUFFER, THE GREEN SPACE AND THE POND AND PUT THE BUILDING TOWARDS THE BACK.

AND THEN HE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS TOWARDS BACK, AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. CORRECT. I TAKE IT YOU ALL WORKED WITH THEM ON SOME OF THAT? YES. GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH.

IF THE APPCANT IS HERE AND CARE TO ADDRESS ANYTHING AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE, SIR.

HELLO, I'M DEREK WHITE. I LIVE AT 1871 STEVENS BLUFF LANE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. 75208. AND,

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ANY QUESTIONS. I SEE NONE I'VE GOT ONE QUICK ONE. IS THAT POND GOING TO BE DRY POND OR IT'S GOING TO BE DRY. CORRECT. IT'S A DETENTION POND CORRECT? CORRECT. AND IT'S GOING TO BE DRY, NOT WET. YEAH. MAINTENANCE IS A NIGHTMARE IN THE WET. OKAY. NOW, COMMISSIONONER DUCKWORTH HAS A QUESTION, AND HERE WE GO. THANK YOU. SIR, A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS JUST FOR THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THE AREA. I KNOW WE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT THAT WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN HEAR IN THE PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT HAVING. LIKE UP TO 270 PEOPLE THERE A PARTICULAR TIME. WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE 200 AND, YOU KNOW, 200 PLUS INDIVIDUALS. IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S MAINLY FOR GISD, YOU KNOW, STAFF TO USE AND STUDENTS. THERE IS A TRAINING ROOM INSIDE THE BUILDING WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF THE IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO PROVIDE TRAINING TO STUDENTS AND TO STAFF, THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. BUT IT DOES ACCOMMODATE UP TO 200 PLUS INDIVIDUALS. BUT THEY EXPECT AT THIS TIME ABOUT 90, 90 INDIVIDUALS TO OCCUPY THE BUILDING. I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, SO YOU'RE YOU'RE PROVIDING PARKING FOR THAT MANY PEOPLE. WE PROVIDING BUILDING. OH YES. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. YEAH. AND I KNOW QUESTION IS AND YOU INDICATED THAT Y'ALL WERE GOING TO DO WHATEVER IS REQUIRED FROM VEGETATION AND SHRUBBERY STANDPOINT FOR TREES AND STUFF. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT DOING THERE? WELL THERE'S A BUFFER. THERE'S LIKE A 16 FOOT BUFFER ON PLEASANT VALLEY AND A TEN FOOT BUFFER ON ON NEIGHBOR SCHOOL ROADS. WE PROVIDING IRRIGATION. WE'RE PROVIDING CERTAIN LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO MEET IN GOOD FAITH EFFORT THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. TREES AND SHRUBBERY. CORRECT? YES, YES. AND I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE POND AND CHAIRMAN, ANSWER THAT QUESTION. SO THAT'S A DRY POND. THANK YOU SIR. ABSOLUTELY. I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. THERE'S A MENTION OF A BACKUP GENERATOR THAT'S PROBABLY FOR THE SERVERS. IF YOU MAKE THAT A CENTRAL SERVICE PLACE, IS THAT GOING TO BE LOCATED BACK IN THE MECHANICAL YARD TO AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCE IS CLOSE. YEAH. IT'S

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NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. JUDY LANGFORD, I AM AT 776 SOUTH COPPELL ROAD IN COPPELL, TEXAS, AND I'M WITH PBK ARCHITECTS. AND YES, WE ARE IF YEAH, WE NEED THEM. WE ARE ESTABLISHING A HARDENED AREA JUST FOR THAT. THE DATA CENTER EQUIPMENT ONLY. IT'S ABOUT 7000FT■S AT THE BACK OF TE BUILDING, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE LOCATED NEAR THE GENERATOR, THE BACKUP GENERATOR, WHICH GIVES ABOUT 72 HOURS OF POWER. SHOULD THERE BE AN INCIDENT. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANT THE FACILITY THERE. THAT WAS A PART OF THE REASON AND PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. AND TO GIVE THEM A MORE STATE OF THE ART BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE NATATORIUM, IT PROTECTS OUR INVESTMENTS IN THE DISTRICT, THE EQUIPMENT, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF EQUIPMENT STORED THERE, AND IT CHANGES EVERY DAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? COME ON DOWN, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. NAME IS BOB. BOB FISHBEIN. I'M AT 1620 PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD, ALSO 1602 PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD. BOTH THOSE PROPERTIES ARE THE AG PROPERTIES DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM PLEASANT VALLEY, FROM RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THE RETENTION SITS.

WE BUILT THE HOUSE OVER THERE ON THAT AREA. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED WAS THE RETENTION POND WET OR DRY? OUR CONCERN WAS THAT THERE IS QUITE A LOT OF WILDLIFE AT NIGHT IN THAT AREA. MY CAMERAS PICK UP COYOTES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS, AND I WAS CONCERNED IF IT WAS A WET POND, IT WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THAT'S DRY. I DID WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION ON ON THE PLEASANT VALLEY SIDE, WHAT TYPE OF SHRUBBERY OR SCREENING THEY WOULD DO. SO THE FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY IS NOT FACING A PARKING LOT DIRECTLY.

WELL, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN. ONONLY THE CITY HAS STANDARDS FR SCREENING AND THEY ALSO HAVE STANDARDS FOR SCREENING OF PARKING LOTS. SO THERE LIKELY WOULD BE SHRUBS IN FRONT OF THE PARKING SPACES OR ALONG THERE. BUT THAT'S WORKED OUT WHEN THEY COME IN AND GET THEIR SITE PERMIT. AND IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT THERE IS A SETBACK AT THAT POINT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THAT YOU GUYS DID MENTION IS THAT THE INTERSECTION THERE OF NAAMAN SCHOOL AND PLEASANT VALLEY IS AN AREA THAT GETS A LOT OF ACCIDENTS, USUALLY WITH THE CARS TRAVELING UP PLEASANT VALLEY. LOOKING AT YOUR DIAGRAM, I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS IT'S GOING NORTH ON PLEASANT VALLEY. THE REASON IS, AS IT COMES AROUND, YOU'RE ON A BLIND CURVE. IT ACTUALLY IS IN FRONT OF MY PROPERTY, THE 1602 PROPERTY. IT IS A BLIND CURVE THAT COMES AROUND. YOU COME UP TO THE INTERSECTION BEFORE YOU KNOW IT'S AN INTERSECTION. SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT MAYBE WE NEED A BLINKING LIGHT FURTHER UP FURTHER SOUTH ON PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD, TO WARN PEOPLE THAT THERE'S AN INTERSECTION COMING, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER NO FOR TRAFFIC TO CONSIDER. YEAH, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO ADD. OTHERWISE, THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT A GREAT NEIGHBOR. THEY ALWAYS MAINTAIN THEIR FIELDS. GARBAGE PICKUP, MAINTENANCE IT'S ALL BEEN GOOD. SO NOTHING ELSE TO ADD. THANK YOU VERY Y MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THE MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL CONSISTENT WITH RECOMMENDATION. AND MY. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OH. WELL, ACTUALLY OKAY, I'M GOING TO TRY TO TRAIN US TO USE THE MOTION BUTTONS. OKAY. SO IN THAT CASE I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL FIRST. AND LET ME. WELL. THEY WANT ME TO DO THIS. SO

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AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL. SEEING NO DISCUSSION TO APPROVE. THAT'S THAT'S TO APPROVE? YES. APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SHOW OF HANDS THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD. WITH MR. DALTON ABSTAINING. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM TWO G, THE 25 DASH 17. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF SCRUBBIES WAVE WASH, LLC, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT TO UPDATE PERMITTED USES AND CHANGE THE BASE ZONING TO COMMUNITY RETAIL AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A CAR WASH AUTOMATED ROLLOVER USES. SITE IS LOCATED AT 6437 BROADWAY BOULEVARD. COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE APPROVED PLAN. DEVELOPMENT 1741 TO UPDATE THE PERMITTED USES AND CHANGE THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT TO COMMUNITY RETAIL. THE PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED AS 6437 BROADWAY BOULEVARD, AND THE SITE IS ABOUT 1.12 ACRES IN SIZE.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT LOCATION OF THE SITE. THE SITE WAS APPROVED WITH, AS I MENTIONED, PD 1741 WITH A BASE ZONING OF NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY PERMITTED TO HAVE THE AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH USE AND TO HAVE AUTO MINOR REPAIR PERMITTED BY RIGHT. IN FACT, THEIR CONCEPT PLAN ALSO REFLECT THOSE TWO USES ON THE SITE. THEY ARE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT OF USES THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR. AS I MENTIONED, CR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES TO NOT BE THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AUTOMOTIVE MINOR REPAIR NOT ALLOWED, CONVENIENCE STORE NOT ALLOWED, AND LAUNDRY SELF-SERVICE NOT ALLOWED, THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR THE CAR WASH, AUTOMOTIVE, AUTOMATED ROLLOVER AND CAR WASH. FULL SERVICE DETAIL USE TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY RETAIL BASE ZONING DISTRICT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS COMMUNITY CENTERS. COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE AREAS WITH COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY NONRESIDENTIAL, SERVING A COLLECTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF A MIXTURE OF USES INCLUDING RETAIL SERVICES, OFFICE USE, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, AND ENTERTAINMENT. THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE FROM THE RACETRACK ON THE NORTH. THIS IS VACANT SITE AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE PD 17 DASH 41 SHOWED AUTOMOTIVE MINOR REPAIR AND A CAR WASH, BUT THEY ARE NOW REMOVING THAT FROM THE ALLOWED USES. AND THESE ARE THE THREE RECEIVING LANES. THIS IS THE CAR WASH. THESE ARE THE VACUUM AREAS AND PARKING SPACES FOR EMPLOYEES. AND THAT'S THE DUMPSTER AREA. ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL BE FROM BROADWAY BOULEVARD. SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF THE AUTOMOTIVE MINOR REPAIR USE DUE TO ITS AUTO CENTRIC NATURE. IN FACT, WHEN WE'VE NOT PASSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND STUDIES, WHEN WE'VE GONE OUT AND DID CHARRETTES WITH THE COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE USES THAT THEY ARE STRONGLY AGAINST IS AUTOMOTIVE MINOR REPAIR USES. SO WE DO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF THAT USE. WE DO, HOWEVER, RECOMMEND THAT THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE REMAIN ON SITE JUST BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT IS MORE INTENSE AND IT ALLOWS FOR THOSE, IT ALLOWS FOR THOSE USES TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE FUTURE. SO WE DO RECOMMEND, IF THEY DO WANT TO COME BACK WITH A CERTAIN TYPE OF COMMUNITY RETAIL USE THAT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

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I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HE'D BE INVOLVED. CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS MAXWELL FISHER WITH ZONE DEV LAND USE CONSULTANTS, 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080. REPRESENTING FIELD GRADE CAR WASH. TRYING TO HIT. I DON'T SEE IT DOWN HERE. I WAS TRYING TO HIT PRESENT, BUT ANYWAY, THERE WE GO. YEAH, THERE WE GO. USUALLY AT THE BOTTOM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO FEEL GREAT. FEEL GREAT. CAR WASH IS A FAST GROWING DFW BASED CAR WASH.

THEY'VE GOT A MEMBERSHIP BASED PROGRAM, WHICH I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MOMENT. THERE'S THREE ESTABLISHED LOCATIONS DALLAS, CARROLLTON AND ARLINGTON. AND THERE'S FOUR UNDERDEVELOPED IN FORT WORTH, ARLINGTON AND DALLAS. THEY USE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY SOAPS, WATER USAGE TECHNOLOGIES. SO THAT WAY IF THERE'S ANY LEAKS, WE QUICKLY STOP THAT. SO THERE'S NOT AN OVERUSE OF WATER. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO TECHNOLOGY TO KEEP THE NOISE DOWN ON THE BLOWERS AND THE VACUUM. BUT THERE'S NO SINGLE FAMILY OR ANY SORT OF SENSITIVE USE HERE. BUT THEY STILL USE THAT TECHNOLOGY. STAFF MENTIONED. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S UNDERSTANDING THE FRAME, THE SCOPE OF THIS REQUEST. BACK IN 2018, THE ZONING WITH COUNCIL APPROVED REQUEST FOR BOTH AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR AND AN AUTOMATED CAR WASH ON THIS PROPERTY. SO WE'RE SIMPLY REMOVING THE AUTO AUTO REPAIR. AND SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE CAR WASH, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR AN AMENDED SITE PLAN. SO THE CAR WASH IS NOT SO CRAMMED ON THE PROPERTY. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO AN AUTO REPAIR. SO I THINK IT'S SORT OF A WIN WIN FOR THE CITY IN THIS CASE, IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A BETTER CAR WASH OPERATOR ON THE OVERALL SAME PROPERTY LAW ON THE ENTIRE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE CAN DISCUSS THE BASE ZONING AMENDMENT. WE'LL ALSO SAY THAT THIS SITE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE RACETRACK TO THE NORTH. IT'S

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AND THEN I MENTIONED THE NOISE DAMPENING ON THE VACUUMS. IS THEIR ELEVATIONS. WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND ARCHITECTURAL METAL. SO YEAH, WE HAVE A STRONG BRAND. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ALI SANDOVAL IF WE COULD, CHAIRMAN FOR JUST A COUPLE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THE CULTURE AND THE COMPANY AND HOW THEY GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN I'LL WRAP UP. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OKAY. YEAH. MY NAME IS ALI SANDOVAL. MY ADDRESS IS 310 SOUTH INDUSTRIAL LANE, EULESS BOULEVARD, OR EULESS, TEXAS. THANK YOU. HONORABLE PLAN COMMISSION MEMBERS AND OTHER CITY OFFICIALS FOR WORKING WITH US. I'M PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND MARKETING TEAM AT GREAT CAR WASH, AND I'M HERE TO PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT INTO OUR COMPANY VALUES, OUR OPERATIONS, AND HOW WE PLAN TO BE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE ON THE SLIDE. ONE QUALITY ISN'T A PROMISE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BUILT INTO EVERYTHING WE DO, FROM EYE CATCHING LANDSCAPING TO TOP TIER AMERICAN MADE EQUIPMENT. WE GO THE EXTRA MILE AND MAKE EVERY VISIT A GREAT ONE. OUR TEAM IS PROACTIVE. THEY'RE HELPFUL AND ALWAYS FOCUSED ON PROVIDING OUTSTANDING VALUE AND A SMOOTH AND FRIENDLY EXPERIENCE. WE LOVE BECOMING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE EASIEST THING FOR ME TO TALK FOR, TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S MY FAVORITE PART OF MY JOB. I WAS HIRED ON TO FEEL GREAT CAR WASH INITIALLY AS AN COMMUNITY OUTREACH MANAGE. IN EVERY CITY WE OPERATE, WE ACTIVELY SUPPORT LOCAL CAUSES, FROM SPONSORING FIRST RESPONDERS TO HOSTING FUNDRAISERS FOR SCHOOLS AND YOUTH SPORTS. AS WE GROW INTO GARLAND, I'M EXCITED TO BRING THE SAME LEVEL OF COMMITMENT. OUR TEAM PLANS TO BUILD STRONG PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL LEADERS, SCHOOLS, AND SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS. THESE ARE JUST A FEW PICTURES. THE ONE WITH THE LITTLE GIRLS IN THE YOUTH SPORTS. THEY'RE JUST A LOCAL BASKETBALL TEAM THAT WAS TRYING TO MAKE MONEY TO GO TO FLORIDA, AND THEY DID THAT. THEY WERE ABLE TO DO A REALLY EASY AND SAFE CAR WASH. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT IN A BIG PARKING L LOT WITH LOTS OF CARS SPEEDING BY. THEY CAN COME SET UP FOR A FEW HOURS AND THEY MADE $1,000, WHICH IS ABLE TO COVER SOME OF THEIR COSTS. THEY DID GO TO FLORIDA. I HOPE THEY WON. I'M NOT REALLY SURE. THE FORT WORTH PRO FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION, ALL OF THE FIRST RESPONDER ASSOCIATIONS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH HAVE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL,

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WHEN YOU'RE MEETING PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. ACADEMY FOUR IS A MENTORSHIP THAT GO TO SCHOOLS EVERY FRIDAY AND MENTOR FOURTH GRADERS. THEY'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND SAID THAT FOURTH GRADERS ARE THE AGE THAT ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE, SO THEY SPEND TIME A I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH THEM NOW, JUST MET THEM THROUGH A COMMUNITY THING, AND THEY'VE BEEN REALLY REWARDING TO WORK WITH. THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SIMPLE FOR ORGANIZERS TO PARTNER WITH US. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAXWELL'S DOING THE HARD STUFF. MR. DALTON, PLEASE DON'T HOLD MAXWELL AGAINST US. HE CAME VERY, VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED. SO KNOWING HIM A LOT OF YEARS. YEAH. TO SIT ON THIS COUNCIL. OH, THAT'S REALLY COOL. I USED TO SIT RIGHT OVER THERE. IT'S A WARM CHAIR. IT'S A COOL CHAIR. THEY NEED YOU BACK.

BUT THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME AND ALLOWING ME TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE HOPE TO BECOME A PART OF GARLAND. THANK YOU. THANKS. I WILL WRAP UP. THIS IS A CHALLENGE AT THE END OF THE OF A RETAIL CORRIDOR. IT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF THE CITY LIMITS. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHATEVER DOES DEVELOP HERE THAT IT'S A ROBUST RETAILER. AND SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR USE YOU BOTH YOU GET IT'S A IT'S AN IMPULSE PURCHASE FOR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE ARE DRIVING BY AND WANT TO GET THEIR CAR WASHED. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A DESTINATION RETAILER AND THAT ITS MEMBERSHIP PEOPLE COME BACK TO IT. AND SO YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE THIS PROPERTY GO VACANT WITH THIS TYPE OF USE AS OPPOSED TO POSSIBLY SOMETHING ELSE. SO WE DO THINK THIS IS THE BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH AN ADJACENT FUEL STATION FOR CROSS SHOPPING, CROSS USE THE LANDOWNER WOULD GET LANDOWNER WOULD GIVE UP AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR USE RIGHTS THAT COULD BE BUILT TODAY WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL. AND THEN WE THINK THIS IS A SUPERIOR LAYOUT THAN THE LAYOUT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED AND PART OF THE ORDINANCE. THIS WOULD EXPAND QUALITY SERVICES AND IT IS SUPPORTED BY STAFF. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR SUPPORT AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. FISHER. I SEE NONE. THANK YOU. I JUST REMEMBERED THAT I WASN'T HAPPY WITH THE AUTOMOTIVE USE WHEN IT FIRST CAME, CAME THROUGH. SO I REMEMBER THAT. YEAH. ALRIGHTY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH? THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS TO THE APPLICANT AND THEIR INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY. IT MEANS A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME IN TO, TO OPERATE A BUSINESS AND BRING THE COMMUNITY WITH THEM. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHTY. COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH.

THIS PARTICULAR LOCOCATION, I THINK, WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS. HOPEFULLY LEAVING INCREASED SOME OF THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. THERE'S A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS DOWN THERE THAT COULD PROBABLY USE A FEW MORE CUSTOMERS, AND I. I REALLY THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ADDITION TO THAT PART OF TOWN. THANK YOU. SEE NO OTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER DALTON AGAIN, YOU'RE STILL ALIVE? NOPE, NOPE. YOU DON'T WANT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE LIVE? NO, NO. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION HEADING THIS WAY? OKAY. COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, AND LET ME GET. THERE. YOU GO. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU F FR THE PRESENTATION. LOVED IT. LOVE THE AREA. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS CAR WASH. I WILL BE A MEMBER. SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS AGENDA ITEM AS PRESENTED BY STAFF. OKAY, SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DESIGNATION. YEAH. AND ASSURING THAT THE OTHER USES ARE REMOVED. YES. ALRIGHTY. AND SINCE WE'RE USING THE SECOND WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL WHO

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THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A NEW PHASING PLAN TO BETTER GUIDE DEVELOPMENT. ALL OTHER REGULATIONS WOULD STILL BE REGULATED BY THE EXISTING PLAN. DEVELOPMENT 2152. SO ORIGINALLY THEY HAD A DIFFERENT PHASING PLAN. SO THIS IS THE REVISED PHASING PLAN HERE BUT WITH A CONCEPT PLAN. SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. IT WOULD IT DID HAVE A SEPARATE PHASE FOR THE TOWNHOMES IN THE BOTTOM AS WELL AS THREE OTHER PHASES. SO THE NUMBER OF PHASES DIDN'T CHANGE. BUT JUST AS THE PROJECT WENT ON IN PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT FUNDING AND JUST KIND OF GETTING THINGS SCHEDULED AND LINED UP, CERTAIN PARTS OF THE PROJECT THAT MADE THEIR THEIR ORIGINAL PHASING HARD TO COMPLETE AND WORK WITH. AND PREVIOUSLY THERE WERE SOME SOME MINOR CHANGES AND THEN TO NOW TO WHERE IT WAS JUST IT BECAME NECESSARY TO KIND OF PHASE IT. SO STAFF DID WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IN ORDER TO SECURE PROPER PARKING. ENOUGH PARKING WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE APPLICANTS AND TENANTS IN EACH PHASE, JUST TO ENSURE THAT NOBODY WOULD BE KIND OF SHORT OF PARKING THERE. AND I DO BELIEVE IT IS PHASE ONE A THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT, BUT I CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT CLARIFY IF YOU DO HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. BUT AGAIN, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2152 OF WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING TO BE THERE. YOU KNOW, ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT IS JUST THE SAME. THIS IS JUST KIND OF OUTLINING HOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE TO ENSURE THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT AND NOT LEAVING ANYONE SHORT OF PARKING OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD DEPRIVE THEM OF JUST CONVENIENCE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS, AS WE DO FIND THAT IT WOULD BE NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY AFTER WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, AND IT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO HAVE A COMPLETE AND MORE COHERENT PARK DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARKING SITUATION. WE SENT OUT 199 LETTERS, AND WE RECEIVED ONE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST AND THERE WAS NO COMMENT. I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M READING THIS RIGHT. YES, SIR.

I'M LOOKING AT THE OLD AND THE NEW. SO WITH THIS NEW ONE, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'LL HAVE TO DO THAT MAJOR ROAD ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO DEVELOP THEIR ONE. A PROJECT WHERE BEFORE THEY PROBABLY ONLY HAD TO BRING IT DOWN, PARTIALLY BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING A CORNER FIRST? OR IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D RATHER HAVE THE APPLICANT? SO I CAN PARTIALLY TALK ON THAT. I'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT, SO I'LL JUST LET THE APPLICANT. YEAH BUT BUT YEAH. SO PROSPERITY WILL BE DONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH. BUT BUT THE BIGGEST CHANGES WERE JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE PARKING THAT ORIGINALLY EVEN WAS IN PHASE THREE GOT KIND OF MOVED TO THE OTHER PHASES TO ENSURE PROPER KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THERE. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND ALL THESE COMMISSIONER AND CITY STAFF. I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN, AFTER TWO, ONE AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS AGO, I CAME. THIS IS KEEP GOING RIGHT NOW. I DIDN'T BRING THE PICTURE, BUT IT IS COMING GOOD. LIKE IF I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE MY PHONE, BUT IT IS BUILDING

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THE REASON WHY? BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO THE CURRENT BUILDING AND ALL THESE LIKE UNDERGROUND IS ALREADY IN THE IN THE GROUND. NEXT PHASE. LIKE PHASE TWO, IT WAS THE CURRENT ONE. BUT LET'S FINISH THIS ONE. THIS THIS CURRENT BUILDING WILL BE DELIVEREDD IN NOVEMBER 11TH.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GIVE US. THE DATE ON NOVEMBER 11TH FOR PHASE ONE. A THEN WE'RE GOING TO BID AGAIN AND SEE IF WE'LL TRY TO SEE WHICHEVER BUILDING IS WITHIN THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW, AS A WOMAN BUSINESS, I HAVE TRIED MY BEST TO DELIVER THIS STUFF AND WE ARE TRYING SO HARD TO FINISH THAT. SO AND I DO NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. SORRY. 310 OFFICE PLAZA, 310 EAST I-30, GARLAND, TEXAS. QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. I GUESS I'LL CONTINUE WITH MINE SO I ACTUALLY SEE SOME POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS. ONE LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE HAVING TO BUILD THAT ROAD FIRST ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND THEN YOU'LL DO ONE A, ONE B. AND SO IF THE MARKET CHANGES PHASE TWO, THAT BUILDING THAT'S OUT FRONT CAN CHANGE TO MEET THE MARKET. SO THAT'S NICE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE I THINK AMENITIES ARE OFF OVER IN THE CORNER. AND THEY'LL BE BUILT IN PHASE TWO VERSUS PHASE FOUR. SO WE HAVE TWO CLUBHOUSE, ONE CLUBHOUSE ALREADY RIGHT NOW IN THE IT'S A SMALL ONE, BUT IT'S ALREADY BUILT AND IT WILL BE READY IN TWO MONTHS OKAY. WHICH HAS THE POOL AND ALL THIS LIKE ALL THIS STUFF. BUT THERE WILL BE ONE MORE. WELL COME ON, PHASE TWO.

SO THERE WILL BE TWO CLUBHOUSE. THAT'S THE PLAN AGAIN. EVERYTHING IS A MARKET CONDITION AND INTEREST AND EVERYTHING WE ARE TRYING. IT WAS PHASE FOUR BEFORE SO THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S IT. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN THIS CASE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE. REALLY APPRECIATE FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT. ALRIGHTY. OH, I DO HAVE A CARD.

SANJ GUPTA NOT SPEAKING, BUT HE'S FOR. ALRIGHTY. MOTION. OH LET'S SEE, I DIDN'T CLEAR THE LAST ONE. COMMISSIONER PARIS. I GUESS I HAVE TO CLEAR MOTIONS AFTER EACH CASE. I'M LEARNING.

YEAH. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. GIVE ME ANOTHER 20 YEARS. I'LL GET THIS DOWN. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS REQUEST AS PRESENTED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARIS, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS PRESENTED. ANY DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE BY RAISE YOUR HANDS FOR. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT WAS LAST ITEM IN OUR AGENDA. AND IT IS NOW 833. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF

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