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GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO THE JULY 28TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR CUSTOM. COMMISSIONERS STARTED MEETING WITH THE PRAYER AND PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT. IN NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION. TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER ROSE. LET US PRAY. FATHER GOD, WE HUMBLY COME BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE IN OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND.
PLEASE ADVISE US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE ASK FOR ALL THIS HELP IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLAY! PLAY BALL! HERE. OOPS. SORRY. GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING. ALL RIGHT. I SEE I HAVE A COUPLE SPEAKER CARDS. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ON A CASE TONIGHT, IF YOU PLEASE FILL ONE OF THESE OUT, HAND IT TO THE PLAN. COMMISSION SECRETARY, WE'LL CALL YOU UP. AND WHEN YOU COME UP TO SPEAK THE MICROPHONES THERE, YOU MAY HAVE TO MOVE IT AROUND TO GET IT IN FRONT OF YOU. IT'S NOT THAT SENSITIVE. SO. AND WE GIVE APPLICANTS 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
OTHER SPEAKERS, WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES. BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP LIKE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, DEFINITELY ALLOW MORE AND WE WILL NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS STATED INTO THE MICROPHONE FOR OFFICIAL RECORDS. AND ONCE EVERYBODY'S PRESENTED, WE MAY WE ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO
[a. July 14, 2025 Plan Commission Minutes]
COME BACK UP AND RESPOND TO ANY COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. LET'S JUMP RIGHT INTO OUR AGENDA. ITEM ONE A JULY 14TH, 2025 PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES FOR THE JULY 14TH, 2025 MEETING. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MR. CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED, AND I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. TO SEE.WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE NEW SYSTEM. OH, THERE WE GO. GOT IT. OH, YOU HAVE TO HIT SAVE DOWN THERE TO. WE HAVE A NEW SYSTEM. IT'S CALLED PROGRESS. ALL RIGHTY.
THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHTY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A ZONING CASE. ITEM
[a. Z 25-23 Resource One Credit Union]
TWO A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF RESOURCE ONE CREDIT UNION REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW AN AUTO AUTOMOBILE REPAIR. MINOR USE BY RIGHT ON PROPERTY. CURRENTLY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZERO TWO DASH 28 WITH THE BASE ZONING, DISTRICT OF COMMUNITY RETAIL AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR.MINOR USE ON THE SUBJECT SITE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 20 401 ARAPAHO ROAD. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS CASE Z 25 DASH 23 AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT OF PD ZERO TWO DASH 28, AND IT ALLOWS FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES, AND IT PROHIBITS A SLEW OF USES ON THE SITE. THE ADDRESS IS 2401 ARAPAHO ROAD, AND THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 1.31 ACRES IN SIZE. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS IDENTIFIED THIS AREA AS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES. THIS CENTER SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY SCALED TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES. THIS TYPE OF CENTER IS PREDOMINANTLY, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY, NONRESIDENTIAL.
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS ARE SERVICED BY LOCAL ROADS AND TRANSIT ROUTES, AND THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS. YEAH. SO THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE VACANT SITE. AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. AS
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I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CURRENT PD PROHIBITS HAS A LIST OF USES THAT ARE PROHIBITED. AND THIS WAS ONE OF THEM. SO THEY ARE REQUESTING TO AMEND THE PD. THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT THEY SUBMITTED. THIS IS GOES THIS IS JUST FOR REFERENCE. IF THIS IS APPROVED IT WOULDN'T BE ATTACHED AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. BUT THIS SHOWS FOR EXAMPLE, THE BAYS FACING ARAPAHO ROAD. THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR A DEVIATION. OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RESTRICTS OR PROHIBITS OVERHEAD BAYS TO FACE PUBLIC STREETS, AND THEY ARE INCLUDING THIS IN THEIR REQUEST. THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS IS ALSO 33 PARKING SPACES, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A DEVIATION TO ALLOW 23 PARKING SPACES AS PART OF THE PD REQUEST. AND THIS PD WAS APPROVED ORIGINALLY IN 2002 WITH A SELF STORAGE SITE. SO THE DETAILED PLAN, THE DETAILED PLAN WAS APPROVED TO THE EAST AND THE NORTH AND IT IS DEVELOPED CURRENTLY TODAY. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AGAIN THAT THE AUTO AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MINOR USED TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT. THE BAYS BE ALLOWED TO FACE THE STREET, AND THAT THERE BE 23 PARKING SPACES ALLOWED INSTEAD OF 33 PARKING SPACES.STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REQUEST BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE FEEL THAT THERE IS PROSPECT FOR THERE TO BE ELEVATED USES. OTHER RETAIL OR SERVICE USES ON THIS SITE, AND THERE ARE AN APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE RADIUS OF THIS SITE.
THERE ARE FIVE OTHER AUTO REPAIR USES, SO WE FEEL LIKE THE USES MET. THERE'S A SUFFICIENT AMOUN.
AND WITH THE NUMBER OF DEVIATION REQUESTS, WE FEEL LIKE THE SUPPORT THIS USE SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED THIS SITE. AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER IN OPPOSITION. AND GENERALLY THAT CITIZEN JUST DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT THE USE SHOULD BE PERMITTED IN GARLAND. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I DO HAVE ONE IN THE REPORT. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO STORAGE OF CARS OVERNIGHT THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER DEVIATION. SO. TECHNICALLY OVERNIGHT PARKING IS NOT PERMITTED. BUT THE GDC GRANTS SOME WIGGLE ROOM AND SAYS, HEY, IF YOU DO PROVIDE OR IF YOU DO HAVE OVERNIGHT PARKING, THEN YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE, IN THIS CASE, 3200FT■S OF ON SITE STORAGE. THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THAT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOT. THEY'RE ALSO STATING THAT THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING ANY OVERNIGHT STORAGE OF VEHICLES. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS AND THERE'S SOME I'M GUESSING THERE MIGHT BOTH BE THE APPLICANT, WES. HOBBIT OR ANDREW. GREG. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. I AM ANDREW RIG, 3333 WELLBORN STREET IN DALLAS.
75219. AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. WANTED TO TALK THROUGH THIS REQUEST WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT. SEE IF I CAN GET THIS GOING. THERE WE GO. SO I JUST WANT TO WANTED TO AS I AS I TALK THROUGH THE SITE WITH YOU ALL THIS IS, YOU KNOW, LOCATE ARAPAHO AND SHILOH ROAD, 1.31 ACRE SITE. IT'S A BIT ON THE SMALL SIDE. AND THERE'S SOME REASONS THE ACREAGE ITSELF IS DECENTLY SIZED, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL ACCESS EASEMENTS, UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT KIND OF PUSH THE DEVELOPMENT ALL TOWARDS THE CORNER WHERE YOU SEE THE, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY IS THE GREEN, UNDEVELOPED SITE AREA. BUT OUR ADJACENT USERS, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY UNDEVELOPED, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL TO OUR NORTHEAST. AND THEN WE HAVE THE RESOURCE ONE CREDIT UNION AND CUBESMART SELF-STORAGE RESOURCE ONE DEVELOPED ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. THE CUBESMART SELF-STORAGE DEVELOPED MAYBE ABOUT ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO. AND THE ZONING CASE THAT OUR CURRENT ZONING IS ON ACTUALLY CAME FROM THAT CUBESMART SELF-STORAGE CASE WAY BACK IN 2002, WHICH IS KIND OF INFORMED WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WERE WORKING WITH WITH THE ZONING TODAY. SO HERE'S AN OVERALL OF THE SURROUNDING ZONING THAT WE'RE WE'RE SEEING. SO THE PD THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ENTAILED FOR THAT, SELF-STORAGE HAS A BASE OF COMMUNITY RETAIL. SO IT'S A RETAIL ZONED AREA. WE
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DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL UP TO OUR NORTHWEST. AND THEN KIND OF SHOPPING CENTER, DIFFERENT LAYERS OF RETAIL ZONING SURROUNDING THE SITE AT THE INTERSECTION OF ARAPAHOE AND SHILOH. SO I WANT TO TALK THROUGH THE THREE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING. OBVIOUSLY, AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MINOR USE IS OUR OUR USE WITH MAVIS TIRE. MAVIS TIRE IS EXPANDING IN THE TEXAS MARKET. THEY'RE A NATIONALLY KNOWN COMPANY. THEY HAVE A COUPLE LOCATIONS IN DFW AND ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP THIS SITE, AS WELL AS OTHERS WITH A NICE, CLEAN USE THAT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND MY COLLEAGUE WES WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THEM HERE SHORTLY, BUT AS FAR AS OUR VARIANCES REQUESTED FOR THE USE ITSELF, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY WHY IT WAS WRITTEN OUT OF THE ORIGINAL PD BACK IN 2002, BUT, YOU KNOW, HERE IT IS IN THE CR DISTRICT THAT USE WOULD BE BY SUV. SO YOU KNOW, WE'D BE IN FRONT OF THIS BODY ANYWAYS REQUESTING AN SUV IF IT WAS JUST A BASE ZONING, BUT IT'S A PD AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REQUEST FOR OUR PARTICULAR USE. THE REDUCED PARKING REQUIREMENT. THIS KIND OF HAS TWO FACTORS TO IT AS AS TO WHY WE ASKED FOR IT. ONE, IT IS A TIGHT SITE, SO I THINK THE REQUIREMENT HAS 33 SPACES. IF WE WERE TO GO BY CODE, WE'RE REQUESTING 23, WHICH WE STILL THINK IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO MEET THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE COMING IN TO DROP OFF THEIR CARS, WHICH WILL THEN BE MOVED INTO THE BAYS TO BE WORKED ON. LIKE, I THINK WHAT EMMA SAID THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. THERE'S THE OUTSIDE STORAGE COMPONENT THAT THAT WAS IN YOUR CASE OR IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT'S TAKEN FROM THE BASE CODE. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CARS TO BE STORED OVERNIGHT. IN THE RARE CASE THAT MAY HAPPEN, THEY'RE STORED INSIDE THE BAY, SO THE PARKING LOT WILL BE COMPLETELY EMPTY.AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE HERE SHORTLY. AND THEN LASTLY, THE BAYS FACING THE RIGHT OF WAY IS ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE CODE THAT'S NOT PERMITTED. SO WE'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR THAT. THE REASON WE'VE REQUESTED THAT IS ONE FOR SITE CONFIGURATION. WE HAVE THE BAYS FACING SOUTH TOWARDS ARAPAHOE AND THEN FACING TOWARDS THE CREDIT UNION TO THE EAST. AND THE REASON WE WANTED THE BAYS FACING TOWARDS ARAPAHOE, WHICH IS THE VARIANCE, IS THE SITE IS SHIELDED FROM SELF STORAGE. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE SURROUNDED ON ON TWO SIDES BY THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY. BUT BEYOND THAT SELF STORAGE FACILITY IS AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DID WHATEVER WE COULD TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL NOISES THAT MAY COME FROM OUR USE. WE'VE DONE SOME OTHER NOISE STUDIES IN THE PAST, AND TYPICALLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR UNLESS YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BAY AND IT'S OPEN AND THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. BUT OUT OF THE RESPECT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SITE CONSIDERATIONS, WE WANTED TO POINT THOSE BAYS OUT TOWARDS THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE CODE WRITTEN A CERTAIN WAY, AND SOMETHING THAT WE THINK THE SITE WORKS BETTER WITH OUR OUR DESIGN AND FACING THEM OUT TOWARDS ARAPAHOE. HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A ZOOMED IN VERSION. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WE HAVE SOME NOTATIONS THERE FOR ACCESS EASEMENTS. SO THAT DRIVEWAY THAT'S UTILIZED BY BOTH THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY AND THE CREDIT UNION, THOSE DRIVEWAYS WOULD NOT CHANGE. WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ONLY DEVELOPING THE GREEN SPACE AA THAT'S THERE, THE UNDEVELOPED SITE THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS AS OTHER THINGS HAVE DEVELOPED AROUND IT. WE DO HAVE EIGHT BAYS AS PART OF OUR REQUEST, AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME ELEVATIONS ON WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION, THE FRONT DOOR OF THE MAVIS TIRE FACING ARAPAHOE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE FOUR BAYS THERE. ALSO, KIND OF ON THAT SAME NOTE AS TO, YOU KNOW, THE BAYS FACING THE STREET BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE EASEMENTS, BECAUSE OF THE DRIVEWAYS, THIS IS REALLY SET BACK EVEN FURTHER INTO THE SITE. AND YOU'RE KIND OF ALIGNED WITH THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY, WHICH IS HAS A HAS A LARGER SETBACK THAN OTHER RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS YOU MIGHT SEE. YOU CAN SEE OUR FOUR BAYS AND ONE OF OUR MAIN ENTRANCES HERE ON THIS FRONT ELEVATION ON ARAPAHOE, SIMILARLY FACING WEST TOWARDS THE CREDIT UNION IS THE OTHER FOUR BAYS AND ANOTHER SIDE ENTRANCE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO NOTE OUT, AND WE'LL SPEAK TO IT A LITTLE BIT LATER AS WELL. WE HAVE MAVIS USES A VARIETY OF PRODUCT TYPES FOR THEIR BUILDINGS, WHICH CAN CONTAIN DIFFERENT FACADE MATERIALS. WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING LAST MONTH AND ASKED THE LEADERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THE SITE KIND OF, HEY, WHAT WHAT WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE FLEXIBLE WITH. WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE
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ASKING THE QUESTIONS AND GETTING THE CORRECT FEEDBACK. AND THEY SAID THEY WANTED TO MATCH ANY FACADES THAT WE WOULD HAVE WITH THE EXISTING SELF STORAGE AND CREDIT UNION. SO WE'VE CHANGED THE FACADES VERSUS OUR ORIGINAL ITERATION OF THIS TO BE A MATCHING BRICK. SO JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT AS WELL. HERE'S THE SIDE ELEVATION FACING EAST. SO THIS WOULD BE YOU KNOW, THERE'D BE A SHORT GREEN SPACE AREA IN BETWEEN THE MAVIS TIRE AND THE EXISTING SELF STORAGE.SO REALLY THIS IS A BACK OF HOUSE TYPE OF ELEVATION THAT, YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S SEEING UNLESS YOU'RE WALKING BACK CHECKING THE ELECTRIC METER. AND THEN FINALLY THE REAR ELEVATION. SO THIS IS FACING NORTH TOWARDS THE SELF STORAGE. AGAIN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A GREEN SPACE BACK THERE. WE ARE PROPOSING TO SAVE SOME TREES WHICH YOU KNOW AREN'T AFFECTED BY THE MAVIS DEVELOPMENT. SO OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO KEEP TREES THAT WE CAN JUST TO HELP WITH URBAN HEAT ISLANDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FACING THE PARKING LOT AND THEN BEYOND THE PARKING LOT, THERE'D BE THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY. SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO INTRODUCE MY COLLEAGUE WES HOBLITT, ALSO WITH MASTER PLAN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT MAVIS OPERATIONS. GOOD EVENING WEST HOLLYWOOD HERE AND CHAIR COMMISSIONERS. SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAVIS. I'VE WORKED FOR THEM FOR SOME TIME AND KIND OF WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT THEY DON'T DO. SO, MAVIS, REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE TIRES AS THEIR BIG THING. THEY MOST OF THEIR TRANSACTIONS ARE FULL SET OF TIRES, ABOUT 800 TO $1000, YOU KNOW, FOR A SET OF TIRES. I HAD TO GET NEW TIRES LAST YEAR. THAT WAS A LITTLE PAINFUL. BUT TRANSACTIONS ARE GOOD. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY FOR SALES TAX THAT'S YOU KNOW I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. THEY DO BRAKES SHOCKS FLUID REPLACEMENTS, OIL CHANGES ARE ABOUT 8% OF THEIR BUSINESS THAT THEY DO OFFER THAT. BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY PROMOTE. YOU KNOW THEY DON'T REALLY ADVERTISE THAT. BUT IF YOU COME IN FOR A STATE INSPECTION THEY CAN DO THAT AS WELL. JUST KIND OF A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TOUCH UPS ON YOUR CAR. CHECK YOUR FLUID LEVELS FOR WINDSHIELD WIPER FLUIDS, WHICH I NEED TO STOP ON THE WAY HE AND GET THAT FOR MY WIFE'S CAR, ACTUALLY. AND THEY DO APPOINTMENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THE WRONG SIDE OF APPOINTMENTS BEFORE WHERE I SHOW UP, I GOT A FLAT AND, YOU KNOW, OH, IT'S GOING TO BE THREE HOURS. AND SO THEY REALLY PROMOTE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE IN THERE QUICKLY. 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR IS TYPICALLY WHAT THEY SEE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY I THINK THEY PICKED THIS SITE IS BECAUSE THEY LIKE THAT IT'S NEAR RETAIL. THEY LE THEIR CUSTOMERS TO HAVE OPTIONS.
YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SIT IN THE WAITING ROOM, THEY HAVE WATER AND THE COFFEE AND, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY COMFORTABLE CHAIRS. BUT THEY LIKE BEING AROUND GROCERY STORES. AND IN THIS CASE, THERE'S A DUTCH BROTHERS, THERE'S A MCDONALD'S, THERE'S SOME LOCAL RESTAURANTS NEARBY THAT THEY CAN GO TO WHILE THEY WAIT FOR THEIR CAR TO BE FINISHED. AND TYPICALLY, AS MY COLLEAGUE STATED, THEY DON'T DO OVERNIGHT STORAGE. THAT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY DO.
PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY WANT THEIR CAR QUICKLY AND IT DONE FAST. THEY DON'T WANT TO WAIT ALL NIGHT. IT'S NOT. WHAT THEY DON'T DO IS THE ENGINE WORK, THE AUTO BODY REPAIR WHERE YOU KIND OF NEED THAT, OVERNIGHT STORAGE, WHERE THERE'S HEAVIER WORK TO BE DONE TO YOUR CAR, AUTO BODY WORK, IT'S PRETTY QUICK. 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR. I WOULD WAIT MYSELF AND, YOU KNOW, DIDDLE AROUND ON MY PHONE OR COMPUTER, READ A BOOK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF GOING HOME UBERING AND THEN BACK IN 30 MINUTES. IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE ME LONGER TO PICK UP A HOOVER, YOU KNOW, NO WORK OUTSIDE THE BUILDING, NO STORAGE OUTSIDE THE BUILDING. IT'S ALL INSULAR. THEY RUN A TIGHT SHIP AT MAVIS. AND LIKE MY COLLEAGUE SAID, THEY ARE EXPANDING INTO TEXAS. THEY'VE ACTUALLY ACQUIRED, I THINK, IN TB. AND SO THEY'RE BUYING SOME OF THEIR SITES, REDOING THEM, CHANGING THE MODEL THERE. OURS ARE ABOUT TYPICAL, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT OFFICE HOURS, YOU KNOW, 9 TO 6, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK LATER ON THE WEEKENDS, I THINK ON SUNDAY THEY OPEN AT 10 TO 5. SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH NON-OPERATIONAL IN THE EVENING TIME AT ALL. IT'S PRETTY EIGHT HOUR TIME LIMIT. SO HERE'S KIND OF THE SITE PHOTOS. YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE WALL ON THE SIDE THAT WE'D KIND OF BE ABUTTING UP AGAINST LOOKING NORTH AND THEN EAST. AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THERE'S A LITTLE DRAINAGE CULVERT THERE THAT WE NEED TO WORK AROUND, AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, AS WELL AS THE ACCESS EASEMENT. AND THEN HERE WE'RE LOOKING WEST TOWARDS THE TOWARDS THE CREDIT UNION AND THEN LOOKING SOUTH. THAT'S KIND OF ON THE REAR OF THE SITE. I'M ALMOST KIND OF AT THE RIGHT ANGLE, YOU COULD SAY, AT THE CORNERS OF THE TWO OF THOSE TWO WALLS OF THE STORAGE FACILITY. AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF AT THE END OF WHERE WE OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER EXTENSION OF THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY THAT GOES A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON THAT LEFT PHOTO LOOKING EAST. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THEIR MODELS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE SAID, WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WE THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALWAYS DO. YOU KNOW, I REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, BUT WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT KIND OF DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND PRODUCTS THAT THEY HAVE REACHED OUT. I GUESS IT WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND I CALLED CAMELOT AS WELL AS SHILOH RIDGE ESTATES, AND THEN WE MET WITH WOODGLEN. THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WANTED TO MEET WITH US. ACTUALLY, THE OTHER TWO GROUPS, THEY WERE BUSY PLANNING THEIR SUMMER FAIRS AND PICNICS. AND SO THEY SAID, THAT'S IT'S OKAY. YOU GUYS CAN, YOU KNOW, PROCEED. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MEET WITH US. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A COMMENT ON IT. SO WE SENT OUT LETTERS TO NOTIFICATION AREA. I DID NOT RECEIVE AN EMAIL OR A PHONE CALL AND WE HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER IF ANYONE WOULD WANT TO SEE IT, BUT PRETTY MUCH JUST SHOWS THE
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DESIGNS THAT WE'RE REPRESENTING FOR THE SITE, AS WELL AS MY CONTACT INFORMATION. I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING AS WELL AS EMAILED ALL THE NEIGHBORS A LONG TIME AGO AND HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD ANYTHING BACK. NOTHING NEGATIVE AND REALLY JUST NOTHING AT ALL. THEY SEEM TO NOT DISAGREE WITH THE USE WHATSOEVER AND THEY JUST WANTED IT TO LOOK NICE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO. MAKE A NICE PRODUCT FOR GARLAND. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I SEE NONE I WILL SAY I DO APPRECIATE MASTER PLAN.
ALWAYS GOES THE EXTRA MILE TO CONTACT NEIGHBORS. AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SIT DOWN? NO QUESTIONS. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? OKAY, COMMISSIONERS. DISCUSSIONON. MOTION. NOTHING'S POPPING UP HERE. COMMISSIONER ROSE. WELL. I WAS GOING TO SAY I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT WHAT I SEE LOOKS VERY PROFESSIONAL. BUT THE HARD PART, I THINK, WILL BE PREVENTING CARS FROM BEING PARKED OUTSIDE AND WHATEVER. AND APPROVE TO CLOSE THE MEETING AND APPROVE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. THEHEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY.
CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT'S A MOTION. AND COMMISSIONER DALTON, YEAH, I'M STILL WORKING ON IT.
IT TOOK THREE TRIES. SORRY. JUST CONFIRMING YOUR MOTION IS TO DENY THE APPLICANT, BECAUSE MY FEELING IS IT JUST DOESN'T FIT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION FOR THAT KIND OF THING. PLUS, ACCORDING TO THE PAPERWORK GIVEN TO US, THEY'RE GOING TO PAVE THE WHOLE THING OVER WITH CONCRETE AND JUST. I DON'T CARE FOR THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. THERE'S TOO MANY OTHER THINGS AROUND IT THAT JUST IT IT WOULD BE AN ISLAND OF AN AUTOMOBILE REPAIR. SO I WILL AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER ROSE TO DENY. I WILL AGREE WITH THAT. AND I WOULD SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROSE TO DENY STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND SECOND, BY COMMISSIONER DALTON.
ANY DISCUSSION. I'LL JUST ADD IN THAT MAYBE THIS MAY BE THE BEST TIRE COMPANY IN THE BUSINESS, BUT THIS IS ZONING THAT GOES WITH THE LAND. AND IF THEY LEAVE, SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN WHO MAY DO A WHOLE LOT MORE AND JUST TIRES. AND THEN WITH THE BAYS FACING THE FRONT AND TOO MANY DEVIATIONS. SO I AGREE WITH YOU ALL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GET RID OF THE VOTE THEN. THE MOTION IS TO DENY. AND HIT THE SAVE BUTTON. AND THE MOTION PASSES
[b. Z 25-26 Purchasing Fund 2023 2 LLC]
UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ZONING CASE TWO. B HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF PURCHASING FUND 2023 TO LLC REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR AN EXISTING GUEST HOUSE, USE ON A SUBJECT, SITE AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR A GUEST HOUSE USE SITE IS LOCATED AT 2813 SEMINARY CIRCLE, AND I HAVE A FEW SPEAKER CARDS.I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT. OH I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR AN EXISTING GUEST HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY. ADDRESS THAT AS 2813 SEMINARY CIRCLE, AND THE LOT SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 28,156FT■S IN SIZ. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SITE. AND IT DOES HAVE SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN ZONING DISTRICTS. THE VISION FOR THIS AREA IS A.
TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND ADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CURRENTLY FOUND THROUGHOUT GARLAND, AND PROVIDE AREAS FOR LOW TO MODERATE DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO ACCOMMODATE CONVENIENCE, RETAIL GOODS AND SERVICES, OFFICE SPACE, AND PUBLIC SERVICES. THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS. AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN SO STAFF DOESN'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE THAT THIS GUEST HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ANY PERMITS PULLED FOR THIS GUEST HOUSE, BUT THE CURRENT OWNER IS
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SAYING THAT THE FORMER OWNER CONSTRUCTED THIS GUEST HOME AND THEN DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND FOUND OUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, THERE'S NOT A PERMIT FOR THIS. SO THERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE CITY REGULATIONS. SO THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING THE EXISTING SITE HOW IT IS. THE SCP TIMELINE OR GUIDE PERIOD RECOMMENDS FIVE TO AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF YEARS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF YEARS. THE POTENTIAL BUYER HAS STATED THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR THEIR FAMILY MEMBER TO DWELL IN THERE, AND THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SCP GUIDELINES OR REQUIREMENTS.THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CONDUCT ANY BUSINESS IN THERE, AND IT'S NOT ALSO NOT ALLOWED TO BE RENTED OUT. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH AN INDEFINITE NUMBER OF YEARS, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. A QUICK QUESTION. AND THIS IS MORE OF LIKE A CHICKEN AND EGG QUESTION.
HAVE BUILDING INSPECTORS BEEN ABLE TO GO OUT TO THE SITE AND THOROUGHLY DO THEIR INSPECTION OF THE. IF THIS ISPPROVED, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO AND PULL A PERMIT, AND THEN THE CITY WILL HAVE TO INSPECT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF CITY CODES. BUT THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS FIRST. AND VET. IS THIS EVEN PERMITTED IN THE FIRST PLACE? OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER. HARRIS, THANKS FOR TAKING US THROUGH THIS CASE. QUESTION. JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE ORDINANCE. I'M REFERENCING 6.03 AND FOR DWELLING PLACES IN TERMS OF GUEST HOMES ON A, ON A ON A LAND. RIGHT. I WAS TRYING TO GET BACK TO A SECOND, READ IT TO YOU. BUT THIS IS AND I UNDERSTAND THE PIECE. GO WITH THE ADDRESS. YOU KNOW THE LAND.
IT SAYS FOR TEMPORARY NOT FOR TEMPORARY DWELLING. SO WHEN WE SAY NOT FOR TEMPORARY DWELLING, WE MEAN LIKE AN AIRBNB. AIRBNB TYPE OF SCENARIO. RIGHT? OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR. BECAUSE IN HERE I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M CORRECT. YES. LOCKSTEP WITH WITH THE ORDINANCE? YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER ABELL AND THERE WE GO. HI. SO I KNOW WE CAN'T USE IT AS A RENTAL, AND I KNOW IT'S ALREADY THERE READING THE GARLAND 2050 AND BEYOND. I THINK IT WAS. THIS IS ONE OF THE SPECIFIC USES THAT WE SAW IN THAT PROGRAM. BEING A REAL ESTATE AGENT, THESE ARE EXTREMELY SOUGHT AFTER. MY QUESTION AND THIS IS JUST PURE STUPIDITY ON MY PART. BUT IS THERE A WAY TO TIE THE SNP TO THIS OWNER? DOES IT NOT TRANSFER? I BELIEVE THE CITY STOPPED DOING THAT RIGHT PRIOR TO 2015. WE TIED SUPS TO THE OWNER. NOW IT'S THE LAND AND NOW IT'S WRITTEN IN THE GDC TO BE TIED TO THE LAND. BUT WE DO HAVE, I GUESS WE DO HAVE RESTRICTIONS FOR TEMPORARY USE LIKE AIRBNB, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO YES, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THEY CAN'T USE IT TO CONDUCT ANY BUSINESSES, OR IT JUST HAS TO BE FOR RELATIVES OR FAMILY MEMBERS. AND THEN WE DID GET SOME CALLS ABOUT IT AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, HOW DO WE KNOW IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RENT IT? USUALLY THE BEST CODE COMPLIANCE FOR THIS TYPE OF USE IS THE NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO GO ONLINE AND SEE, OH, THERE'S I GUESS THERE'S AN AIRBNB HERE. AND THEN THEY'LL CALL IN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. I DON'T LIKE THAT. IT'S ALREADY THERE. BUT I HAVE A FEELING WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE OF THESE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO DOWNSIZE, GET FAMILIES TOGETHER. SO. THANK YOU. DONE AT STATE TOO. BUT IT DIDN'T GO DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE FINISH LINE. IT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE FINISH LINE. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND COMMISSIONER PARIS AGAIN YOU DID SAY THAT THERE WILL BE A REVIEW WITH CODE COMPLIANCE COMING OUT. THE INSURANCE PERMITS ARE DONE, ETC. BECAUSE BUILDING. YEAH. BUILDING INSPECTIONS THE WRONG TERMINOLOGY. YES. CORRECT. THEY WILL. YEAH. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT. AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTED, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INSPECT IT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODES. OKAY. AND THEN IT'S IN LINE WITH 6.03 CDC OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THAT COULD END UP BEING PRETTY RIGOROUS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS BUILT EIGHT, TEN YEARS AGO. CODES HAVE CHANGED QUITE A BIT SINCE THEN. AND THEY'LL BE INSPECTING TO THE CURRENT CODES, I'M PRETTY
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CERTAIN. AND I NOTICED THAT THERE WASN'T A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF ON THE SP GUIDANCE. I KNOW WE HAVE GUIDANCE ON GUARDRAILS, BUT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, I DIDN'T SEE WE RECOMMEND SUPPORT OF THE INDEFINITE TIME PERIOD. OH, MAYBE I MISREAD IT OKAY.YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S IT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEW SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS. IF THE APPLICANT WISHES TO COME FORWARD, I GOT ONE WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR OR AGAINST. ONE AGAINST AND ONE FOR. SO I'M GUESSING EITHER ANDREA OR THE APPLICANT. THERE.
YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS ANDREA ARSENAULT. I'M ACTUALLY THE REALTOR FOR THE PURCHASING FUND.
DO NEED AN ADDRESS. SORRY. I'M SORRY. I NEED YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. OH, MY ADDRESS IS 5461 BLUE QUAIL DRIVE, PROSPER, TEXAS 75078. SO I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PURCHASING FUND. AND JUST TO REASSURE EVERYONE, THIS PROPERTY WILL REMAIN A SINGLE FAMILY USE. WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT WITH A BUYER ON THIS HOME. AND THE BUYER IS ACTUALLY PURCHASING THIS HOME BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT HAS A CONDITION WHERE SHE CAN'T LIVE ON HER OWN, SO THEY WANTED HER TO FEEL LIKE SHE HAS THE INDEPENDENCE AND ABLE TO LIVE IN THE GUEST HOUSE, OR WHAT WE CALL A CASITA, WHICH IS A TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH. IT HAS A FULL KITCHEN AND A LIVING ROOM AREA WHERE SHE'LL STILL BE CLOSE TO HER PARENTS IN CASE SHE NEEDS IT. SO ANYONE THAT IS SCARED ABOUT IT BECOMING AN AIRBNB OR RENTAL PROPERTY, THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN. THEY ARE REST ASSURED US THAT THIS WILL BE ONLY FOR THEIR DAUGHTER. WE HAVE BEEN UNDER CONTRACT SINCE DECEMBER AND THEY ARE READY TO GET INTO THIS HOME BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE JUST WAITING FOR US TO GET ALL THE PERMITTING TAKEN CARE OF SO THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE PURCHASE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE. SO HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN, YOU KNOW, FIND IT IN YOUR HEARTS TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS SO THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, GET IN AND BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR THE FAMILY. AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ON IT AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS. I DON'T SEE ANY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU.
DEBORAH. DEBORAH KAY DOVER I AM BAD ON NAMES AND HANDWRITING. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I DEBORAH KAY DOVE I LIVE AT 1402 SEMINARY RIDGE 75043 AND I JUST WANT SOME ASSURANCES AND MAKE SURE OF WHAT, WHAT THIS ACTUAL USE IS GOING TO BE. IF THIS IS A FAMILY MEMBER, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT SHE'S A DISABLED IN ANY WAY. I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY THEY HAVE PUT MUCH THOUGHT INTO. THERE IS A CREEK THAT RUNS RIGHT BEHIND THAT WHERE THAT HOUSE BACKS UP TO. UNLESS THEY LOCK HER IN THE BACKYARD. EVERY TIME IT RAINS, THERE IS FLOODING TREES LIKE 12 14 FOOT TREE LOGS COME DOWN THAT CREEK. SO THAT THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER BEFORE THEY OR THEY DID THAT. BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND I'M KIND OF NEW TO THIS, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT THE CIRCLE OF HOMES THAT RECEIVED THE LETTERS ON THIS. WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE SINGLE FAMILY ZONED. IT WILL NOT BE ZONED FOR ANY HALFWAY HOUSES OR NURSING HOMES OR HOSPICE. HOMES. EVERYTHING REMAINS SINGL. FAMILY ZONING. THIS IS JUST A SPECIAL PERMISSION TO PUT A GUEST HOUSE OR IN ESSENCE, A OKAY, SO JUST THIS ONE HOUSE AND SO NO STATE LAWS COVER A LOT OF STATE LAWS COVER A LOT OF THE OTHER USES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS SPEAKER? ALRIGHTY. WE'VE GOT ONE ANOTHER CARD, JULIE UPTON. HI. HI. HI. I'M NEW TO THIS AS WELL. I LIVE JULIE UPTON. YOU NEED MY ADDRESS. 2921 APPLE VALLEY DRIVE. GARLAND I'M ON THE VERY OUTSKIRTS OF THE CIRCLE, WHICH IS WHY WE GOT THE NOTICE TO. AND I DO SYMPATHIZE. I ACTUALLY HAVE A DISABLED DAUGHTER WHO LIVES WITH US, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, UNIT BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY NEED IT FOR HER. BUT I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT T THE PEOPL AREN'T HERE WHO ARE BUYING THE HOUSE. I KIND OF WAS HOPING THEY WERE GOING TO BE HERE INSTEAD OF A
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REPRESENTATIVE, BUT WE ARE. BUT I'M LIKE THIS OTHER LADY. I WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE GOING TO COME IN AND SAY, WELL, I WANT TO BUILD ONE OF MY HOUSE AND BUILD ONE OF MY HOUSE, WHERE WE END UP HAVING A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSES WITH SEPARATE LITTLE CASITAS. SO ASONG AS THAT'S YOU GUYS LOOK AT EVERYTHING INDIVIDUALLY AND, YOU KNOW, ON THIS SINGLE BASIS, THE WAY IT'S SET UP NOW, EVERY APPLICATION GETS, GETS LOOKED AT BY STAFF AND THEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.OKAY. AND I THINK I TALKED TO YOU, I THINK I CALLED YOU AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU GUYS WILL LOOK AT IT GOING TO HAVE AN INSPECTION. I LOOKED AT THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING, COULDN'T TELL ANYTHING ABOUT THE INSIDE OF IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FENCE IS FALLING DOWN AND STUFF THERE, BUT I'M SURE THE PEOPLE, IF THEY BUY IT, WILL FIX ALL THAT. SO AS LONG AS IT MEETS CODE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T, I ASSUME THEY WOULD HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN AND REBUILD OR SOMETHING OR. WELL, YEAH, THERE WOULD BE FOR BUILDING INSPECTION. AND IF IT DOESN'T MEET, THAT'S JUST ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS THAT GETS OPENED UP. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I GUESS Y'ALL WILL VOTE. HOWEVER, IT'S ONE OF MY $0.02 WORTH TO SEE HOW Y'ALL ARE DOING THIS, BUT I WAS REALLY HOPING TO MEET THE PEOPLE BUYING IT INSTEAD OF, LIKE I SAID, JUST A REPRESENTATIVE, BUT NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. SO I GUESS YOU GUYS WILL. NOT EVERYBODY, NOT EVERYBODY CAN MAKE IT. OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OH, WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MA'AM. MISS UPTON. YES, MA'AM. YEAH, I SPOKE TOO SOON. I LET YOU GO TOO SOON. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING DOWN THIS EVENING. HERE'S HERE'S THE QUESTION THAT I'VE GOT FOR YOU. AND I BELIEVE STAFF HAS ALREADY SAID THIS AS WELL. ONE OF THE BIGGEST TOOLS THE CITY HAS TO COMBAT ANY SORT OF MISCONDUCT FROM A PROPERTY OWNER IS THE USE OF THE CODE. COMPLAINT SERVICE REQUESTS 311. IS IT 311? HERE IS THERE'S AN APP FOR IT. NOW.
THERE'S AN APP FOR IT. PLEASE. IF THERE IS SUSPICION THAT THEY ARE RUNNING A TEMPORARY SHELTER IN THIS LOCATION, PLEASE REPORT IT TO THE CITY SO THAT THEY CAN. BECAUSE OFTEN THE CITY IS UNAWARE AND THEN INCIDENTS OCCUR. AND IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A MISUSE OF EVERYONE'S TIME. SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED AND GET TO KNOW THEM WHEN YOU'RE THERE. ALL RIGHT I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU. GOOD POINT SIR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ABEL. I'M SORRY. COME ON BACK. COMMISSIONER ABEL'S GOT. YEAH. YOU WERE JUST A POPULAR PERSON. YOU WANTED TO FIND OUT HOW IT WORKS. YOU REALLY GET TO. YOU JUST THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO ESCAPE. I WASN'T EVEN GOING TO SPEAK. BUT HERE. SO THIS IS MORE TOWARDS THE COMMISSION. BUT ALSO TO ASSURE YOU I AM REAL ESTATE AGENT AS WELL. AND I'M LOOKING AT THE LISTING AND FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, THIS THING'S NICER THAN MY HOUSE. OH, NO, IT'S A NICE HOUSE. YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY A NICE HOUSE. NICER THAN MY HOUSE, TOO. I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE OF THESE AS WE GET INTO THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THEM. OKAY. BUT I MEAN, FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING BACKYARD SO I COULDN'T REALLY SEE THE BILL. I JUST SAW A LITTLE BIT OF IT. I THOUGHT WHEN I ACTUALLY DROVE BY, THERE'S THE GREEN SPACE. NEXT, I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING. ANY. YEAH. ANY REAL ESTATE WEBSITE WILL SHOW YOU THE PICTURES IF YOU JUST PUT THE ADDRESS. IT'S IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A PHENOMENAL BUILDING. OKAY. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE FENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AROUND THE PROPERTY. RIGHT. THAT IS A CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE. I THINK IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A WHILE AND SO BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR A LONG TIME AS WELL. SO I, I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT USE. IT COULD BE A POOL HOUSE AND YOU THAT'S WHERE IT IS. SO YOU KNOW I WELL THESE LADIES ARE CLOSER TO THAN ME. I'M ON THE VERY OUTSKIRTS. BUT I JUST WANT TO BE SURE IT WASN'T GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, RENTED OUT, CONFIDENT IN WHAT STAFF SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS AROUND. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT SHE TOLD ME TOO. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. BUT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF THIS. IT PROBABLY IS. IT IS YOUR PROCESS. SO WE THANK YO. OKAY. APPRECIATE IT. AND I SEE NO OTHER NAMES. SO I THINK YOU'RE FREE TO GO I'M GOING TO LET YOU GO. I HAVE NO NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER HARRISON, IF I CAN, TOOK THREE TIMES AGAIN. YEP. I, I REQUEST TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS REQUEST WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR AN INDEFINITE SUP. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS
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TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. MOTION IS TO APPROVE.AM I GOING TO HAVE TO WHISTLE THE THEME FROM JEOPARDY! COMMISSIONER DALTON? DID YOU HIT THE SAVE BUTTON? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WAS WORTH THE WAIT. RIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. NOW ON TO
[c. GDC Amendment ORD 25-07]
OUR LAST ITEM. TONIGHT IS ITEM 2CA GDC AMENDMENT. ALL THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, GDC CHAPTER TWO ZONING REGULATIONS ARTICLE TWO DIVISION ONE APPLICATION FOR CHANGE OF ZONING TO ADD AN OPTION TO EXPIRE ZONING CASE UPON PROLONGED APPLICANT INACTIVITY. THANK YOU. HELLO? HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, OKAY. VERY GOOD. YOU'RE JUST TALL IN THE MICROPHONE. SHORT. JUST. IT'S SO FAR AWAY. THANK YOU. I'M MICHAEL WADE. I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. SO HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU. AS YOU SAID, I WON'T REPEAT THE FULL DESCRIPTION, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING CASES THAT BECOME DORMANT DUE TO JUST A LACK OF COMMUNICATION FROM THE APPLICANT. JUMPING TO THE CHASE, WE'RE PROPOSING TO ESTABLISH A 180 DAY TIMELINE FOR INACTIVE ZONING CASES IN SECTION 2.04 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THAT'S JUST THE INTRODUCTORY SECTION DESCRIBING THE PROCESS FOR ZONING CHANGE. APPLICATIONS. GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS IS TO INCENTIVIZE CONTINUED APPLICANT COOPERATION AND ZONING PROCESSES, AND ALLOWING STAFF AND THE COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHERS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN ZONING CASES TO FOCUS ONLY ON ACTIVE CASES. THE ISSUE IS THAT SOMETIMES ZONING APPLICANTS WILL CEASE JUST COMMUNICATING AT ALL ON A ZONING PROCESS. THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN, BUT WHEN IT DOES, IT LEAVES STAFF AND OTHER CITY OFFICIALS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE.APPLICANTS COMMUNICATE WITH APPLICANTS WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S THE STATUS? WE YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT THIS, WHAT HAPPENED, ETC. AND OVERALL, IT LEAVES US HANGING WITHOUT MANY ANSWERS FOR FOLKS WHO WANT MORE INFORMATION. SO WE LOOKED AROUND AT WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES DO RIGHT NOW. WE DO GENERALLY WHAT OTHER CITIES DO, WHICH IS JUST RELY ON PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. IN THE PAST, THOUGH, WE JUST GET PROLONGED SILENCE. I THINK THE TERM NOW IS GHOSTING. WHAT DALLAS AND JUST A HANDFUL OF OTHER CITIES DO IS ADOPT A TIMELINE WHERE WE SAY, IF WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU WITHIN 180 DAYS, THEN THIS IS CONSIDERED AN EXPIRED APPLICATION AND YOU WILL NEED TO REAPPLY IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE THE ZONING CHANGE. AGAIN, THESE CITIES AND AGAIN, ESPECIALLY DALLAS, THEY NOTIFY EVERY TWO MONTHS OR SO PUTTING OUT THE WORD, BEING PROACTIVE ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THESE ZONING CASES TO EXPIRE. WE WANT FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. IF IT WORKS WELL FOR THE CITY AND FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. BUT IN THE END, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS. SO AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT PLANNERS IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT NOW LINGERING CASES. AND SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, TARGETING ANY CASE IN PARTICULAR. HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE FOLLOWING GARLAND FORWARD OR SOME OTHER INSTANCES, WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAKE LARGER CHANGES TO THE CODE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE LITTLE TOOLS TO KEEP A REALLY EFFICIENT ZONING PROCESS IN OUR HANDS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE GET DISTRACTED WITH ANYTHING ELSE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT TODAY. THE PROPOSAL IS TO ENTER A STANDARD TIMELINE INTO THE GDC SO THAT IT WILL BE CLEAR AND PREDICTABLE WHAT MAKES FOR A GOOD ZONING CODE AND WELL INTEGRATED INTO THE REST OF OUR ZONI APPLICATION PROCESSES.
WE'RE PROPOSING 180 DAYS, AND STAFF WOULD GIVE NOTICES AT A REGULAR INTERVAL. THAT'S NOT A PART OF THE TEXT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, SO THAT WE CAN FINE TUNE IT BASED ON HOW WELL THE NOTIFICATION PROCESSES WORK. ONCE THE CASE IS DEEMED EXPIRED, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO REAPPLY, PAY ALL APPLICABLE FEES. SO THE TEXT TODAY, YOU PROBABLY SAW IT. IT'S JUST ONE NEW SENTENCE IN THE CODE. IF AN APPLICATION IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY TO BE DORMANT DUE TO A PERIOD OF INACTIVITY IN EXCESS OF 180 DAYS, THE CITY MAY DEEM THE APPLICATION EXPIRED AND REQUIRE SUBMITTAL OF A NEW ZONING APPLICATION WITH ALL APPLICABLE FEES. VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT FITS THIS SECTION PERFECTLY. WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS CODE AMENDMENT.
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WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. WE'VE GOT A FEW. WE'LL KEEP YOU BUSY. BUT, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER PEREZ. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. QUESTION FOR YOU AND FOR THE CITY ATTORNEYS. AND FORGIVE ME, I AM A LITIGATION ATTORNEY BY TRADE, NOT BY CHOICE. SO POLICY IS NOT MY THING. THE QUESTION THAT I'VE GOT IS YOU MENTIONED IN SOME OF THE OTHER CONTEMPORARY CITIES THAT THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT IN THEIR CODES FOR NOTIFICATION, A NOTIFICATION PERIOD, SO THAT STAFF WOULD NOTIFY THROUGH A VARIOUS NUMBER OF METHODS. YES. YOU CLARIFIED QUICKLY WE WOULD BE THE ONLY CITY THAT WOULD HAVE THIS IN OUR CODE. OTHER CITIES ADOPT THIS AS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. ON YOUR QUESTION IN MAY, BUT I WILL RESCIND MY QUESTION FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN COMMISSIONER PARIS, THEN COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, MY QUESTION WAS MORE SO OF I RECOGNIZE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THERE'S AN EXAMPLE AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID DALLAS WHERE THE 180 IS WHERE YOU GOT 180 DAYS FROM. IS THERE A REASON FOR 180 TO 6 MONTHS, OR IS THERE, YOU KNOW, LESS OR MORE THAT SHOULD BE DONE? YOU KNOW, SURE, SURE. KIND OF. TWO ANSWERS. AS WITH A LOT OF OUR ZONING CODE LINES THAT WE HAVE TO DRAW IS 180 DAYS BETTER THAN 179 DAYS. I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS CATEGORICALLY. AND SO GENERALLY WE CHOOSE A LINE LIKE THIS FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE, JUST IN GENERAL, IT'S A IT'S A FAIR TIMELINE. IT'S PLENTY OF TIME FOR AN APPLICANT TO GO GET THAT DOCUMENT THAT THEY WERE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING FROM THEIR CONSULTANT OR TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT MIGHT HAVE PREVENTED THEM FROM COMMUNICATING WITH US, SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO WE THINK ANY LONGER THAN THIS IS MAYBE GRATUITOUS. AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS CATEGORICALLY AND SO IS IT 2 OR 3 MONTHS. IS IT SIX MONTHS? IS IT NINE MONTHS OR ONE YEAR? THERE'S A LITTLE BIT TO BE SAID FOR JUST REGIONAL PREDICTABILITY. AND SO THERE COULD BE A ZONING CONSULTANT OR PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S DEALT WITH THIS IN DALLAS. AND IT JUST HELPS THEM TO INTERACT WITH OUR PROCESSES BETTER TO STAY CONGRUENT WITH A NEIGHBORING CITY. BUT AGAIN, OVERALL, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE OPEN TO SOME DEVIATION FROM THIS. BUT ACTUALLY I WOULD ASK NABILA OR IF SHE HAS ANY OTHER ADDITIONS.AND MY INTENT WAS JUST TO UNDERSTAND. SO YOU LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME FOR AN APPLICANT BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES WE COME SEE APPLICANTS WHERE IT TAKES A WHILE BECAUSE OF WEATHER CONDITIONS, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT IF THIS IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME, THEN SO THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HAVE. THE WAY IT STATED, IF THEY COMMUNICATE THAT THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED, IT WOULD STILL BE CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO WHEN WE SAY A PERIOD OF INACTIVITY, IT IS JUST COMPLETE SILENCE ON ANY PROGRESS. SO IF AN APPLICANT IS DEALING WITH SOME ISSUE AND THEN THEY JUST LET US KNOW THAT COMMUNICATION WOULD KEEP THEIR APPLICATION GOING. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. AND THE SIX MONTHS IS KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH OTHER THINGS WE HAVE. YOU LOSE NONCONFORMING RIGHTS IF IT'S VACANT FOR SIX MONTHS. YOU LOSE OTHER THINGS. THAT SIX MONTHS SEEMS TO BE THE GO TO TIMEFRAME. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH AND COMMISSIONER ABEL. AND THERE WE GO. THANK YOU SIR, I'VE ALREADY HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK ANSWERED IN THE INDUSTRY I WAS IN SOMETIME WHEN WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE CUSTOMER KNEW HE HAD SAW AND UNDERSTOOD THIS. WE PUT A PLACE FOR THEM TO INITIAL IT. IS THAT SOME THOUGHT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT INTO THIS APPLICATION PROCESS? YOU KNOW, WE HAD N THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING A PLACE TO INITIAL IT ON OUR DOCUMENTS. I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IF IT MAKES FOR BETTER COMMUNICATION. BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DECIDED TO PUT THIS IN THE CODE, RATHER THAN JUST ADOPT IT AS A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THEY'RE LEARNING AT THE ONSET ABOUT OUR APPLICATION, THIS STATEMENT IS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT NOW. BUT I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA AS WE ARE IMPLEMENTING SALESFORCE, WHEN AN APPLICANT APPLICANT IS SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION, AMONGST OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUT THERE, WE CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE IT IN THERE TOO. I FOUND WITH WITH NEW THINGS LIKE THIS, WHEN YOU IT HELPS. IT HELPS US AS THE PERSON SERVING THE OUR CLIENTS TO MAKE SURE WE BOTH MAKE SURE I TELL YOU AND YOU UNDERSTAND. SO DOWN THE ROAD YOU CAN'T SAY I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT WE, WE WORK WITH OUR CLIENTS WHEN, WHEN THEY GET CLOSE TO 180 AND THEY CALL AND SAY, I GOT THIS AND WE. BUT WHAT KIND OF PROCEDURE DO WE USE TO DO? WE PUT A NOTE IN THE FILE OR HOW DO WE DO THAT. SO WE WANTED TO KEEP THE AMENDMENT FLEXIBLE
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SO THAT IT'S NOT TOO RIGID ON WHAT WE CAN CONSIDER A PROGRESS. SO LIKE I SAID A COMMUNICATION FROM THE APPLICANT SAYING HEY WE'RE WORKING ON THAT DOCUMENT TO GET FROM SOMEONE ON PROPERTY OWNER SOMETHING. WE'LL JUST FILE IT IN OUR ZONING FOLDER OR EVENTUALLY IN SALESFORCE TO SHOW THAT, HEY, THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION ON THAT PARTICULAR DATE. THANK YOU. AND ALSO, EVERY COUPLE WEEKS I THINK STAFF PUTS OUT A CASE OF STATUS MEMO. I THINK WE ALL GET THAT MONTHLY.OKAY. AND SO THAT WILL BE KIND OF A BASIS. THEY'LL GO, OH MAN, WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THIS GUY IN A WHILE. SO THAT PROBABLY WILL HELP TOO BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SOME ON THERE FOR UPWARDS OF FIVE YEARS. THERE WAS A PEDIATRIC DENTAL OFFICE IN DOWNTOWN. HAD US COLLECTIVELY LOOK AT OKAY, YEAH, I NOTICED THE FUTURE CASES MEMO WAS SHORTER NOW. YES, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. YEAH. AND I REMOVE THAT. OKAY. THAT YOU DID, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? OKAY. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, I THINK YOU'RE LIVE NOW. UNLESS YOU WANT TO LET COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH FINISH OUT HIS THOUGHT. I'LL YIELD TO THAT. BOTH MICS ARE LIVE NOW, BUT GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. THANK. WELL, CARA CLARIFIED HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH FOLKS AND A NEW PROCESS. SO THERE'LL ALWAYS BE THINGS WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE IT FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. I NOTICED THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON STUFF AND IT SEEMS TO BE COHERENT. ALSO, WILL WILL THERE BE SOME KIND OF A CLEANUP PROCESS TO THE LIST THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT? THEY ALREADY HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST QUESTION, CITY DETERMINED BY THE CITY. SPECIFICALLY, WHY CITY AS OPPOSED TO PLANNING DIRECTOR. AND THE QUESTION, I GUESS, IS, IS THIS ENTIRE PROCESS PRETTY MUCH HANDLED WITHIN ONE DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION? SHOULD THE PLANNING DIRECTOR JUST HAVE THE AUTHORITY BASED UPON THE INACTIVITY TO TERMINATE THE APPLICATION? BUT THAT'S WHAT MADE ME WANT TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY A QUESTION. HERE'S THE QUESTION TO THEM. IS THERE A RIGHT ASSOCIATED WITH AN APPLICATION FOR A PERMIT OR A CEO OR THE OR THE LIKE? MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT IT OPENS THE CITY UP TO SOME SORT OF RISK. LET'S SAY THERE'S A THERE'S AN AMOUNT THERE'S A, THERE'S THE APPLICATION FEE THAT'S SUBMITTED. AND THEREAFTER THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE PERIOD. AND I THINK BUILDING PERMITS TYPICALLY HAVE A SUNSET TIME. IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU HAVEN'T STARTED OR IF YOU HAVEN'T COMPLETED WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. SO THIS IS KIND OF AN OFFSHOOT OF THAT, I WOULD THINK BY POLICY OR BY ORDINANCE THAT I CAN'T TELL YOU THE ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE. OKAY. SO THAT IS VERY COMMON IN MANY CITIES FOR PERMITS TO HAVE THAT THAT TIME FRAME FOR DURATION. THAT IS VERY COMMON. WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND TRYING TO APPLY IT FOR ZONING. AND YOU YOU HAVE A POINT. SO WHEN SOMEONE SUBMITS A ZONING APPLICATION, THERE COULD BE SOME VESTED RIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO THIS ALSO TRIES TO TACKLE IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE TOO. WE IF WE HAVE CASES HANGING IN THERE FOR THREE YEARS AND WE GO IN, WE MAKE THE GDC BETTER. BUT FOR THAT PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE STILL HAVING TO GO BY THE OLD RULES BECAUSE THEY HAD SUBMITTED THREE YEARS AGO AND HAVE NOT COMMUNICATED ANYTHING SINCE THEN. SO WE'RE TRYING TO TACKLE IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AND FOR CLARITY, WHOLEHEARTEDLY THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, JUST AGAIN, TRYING TO MINIMIZE ANY, ANY RISK ASSOCIATED WITH IT TO THE CITY. BUT DO WE REGARDING THE COMMENT CITY AS OPPOSED TO PLANNING DIRECTOR, OUR INTENTION WAS FOR IT TO BE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR SO IT CAN GO EITHER WAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP? OKAY. NO, I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. ALRIGHTY. I'LL ASK IF THE LAST COUPLE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ITEM. SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST, WITH ONE EXCEPTION TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE OF THE OF THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE. IF AN APPLICATION DETERMINED BY THE PLANNINGIRECTOR TO BE DORMANT DUE TO PERIOD, YADA YADA, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR MAY DEEM THE APPLICATION EXPIRED AND REQUIRE SUBMITTAL. SO SPECIFICALLY JUST CHANGING THAT LANGUAGE. SUBSTITUTE THE WORD CITY OR PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE WORD CITY. IN ESSENCE, YES, OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE TRYING TO SECOND. DO YOU AGREE WITH THE PROPOSAL? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS, A SECOND BY
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COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS TO. APPROVE THIS. WITH THE CHANGE OF THE WORD FROM CITY TO PLANNING DIRECTOR. AND I'VE GOT SOME SPEAKERS ON THE BOARD HERE. COMMISSIONER. PARIS, I THINK YOU WERE TRYING TO SECOND, WEREN'T YOU? I WAS TRYING TO SECOND. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER DALTON.OKAY. WELL, THEY ACTUALLY USED THE SECOND BUTTON, SO I GAVE HIM GAVE HIM CREDIT. HEY, IT'S A IT'S A SLOW PROCESS. WHAT CAN I SAY OF LEARNING? ALRIGHTY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGE. WITH THE CHANGE. SEE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. PLEASE VOTE.
TO POP BACK UP. IF YOU HIT THE VOTE BUTTON. OKAY. SHALL WE DO THIS BY A SHOW OF HANDS THEN? OH, NO. LET'S GIVE US A. THEY WANT A SECOND TO TEST IT OUT. IT'S BACK. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. AFTER ALL THAT, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. IT IS NOW 726. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF
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