[00:00:13]
          GOOD EVENING, GARLAND, AND WELCOME TO THE MONDAY,
AUGUST 18TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. 
          IT'S OUR WORK SESSION DAY TODAY. OUR FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK
SESSION ITEMS. 
          [ PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS]
MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT? YES,
SIR. ALL RIGHT. 
          LEE MCCORMICK. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN. OKAY. WE WILL HOLD OFF THEN UNTIL ON THAT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? CAN I HEAR? YES, MA'AM. IF YOU PLEASE COME UP. 
          PODIUM. PLEASE. LET ME SEE IF YOU WOULD LIKE. 
          GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MA'AM. AND YOU HAVE THREE. NAME IS ROXANNE
SEIBERT. 
          YEAH. AND I LIVE AT 3317 RIVERDALE DRIVE IN GARLAND. 
          75041. THIS ADDRESS MIGHT BE FAMILIAR TO YOU,
AS I'M NEXT DOOR TO 3401 RIVERDALE DRIVE, WHICH IS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHICH HAS BEEN A PROBLEM, AND I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL IS TRYING TO SOLVE SOME
OF THESE PERMITTING PROBLEMS ON SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO I ACTUALLY HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL MYSELF OUT IN
ROWLETT. 
          I'VE ACTUALLY SENT MAYOR HEDRICK AN EMAIL AND ALL OF YOU ACTUALLY AN EMAIL,
BECAUSE I COULD NOT BE HERE THE LAST TIME. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NOTHING ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO DOWN AND PAY A
FEE TO GET A PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL. 
          THERE'S NO QUALIFICATIONS ABOUT IT. AND WHAT I SAW WAS THAT'S GOING TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE
ADDED ON TO SHORT TERM RENTALS DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU I UNDERSTOOD YOU JUST PAID $50 AND YOU GOT YOUR PERMIT AND GO
TO GO TO WORK. 
          SO IN ROULETTE ONE, I HAD TO PAY $500 FOR MY PERMIT. 
          THE SECOND THING WAS I HAD TO HAVE MY HOME INSPECTED FOR ELECTRICAL,
PLUMBING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          THEY FOUND I HAD TO DO LIKE, $3,000 WORTH OF REPAIRS BEFORE I COULD GET MY PERMIT. 
          AND THEN I HAD TO HAVE THOSE REPAIRS INSPECTED BEFORE I COULD MOVE ON. 
          THERE WERE MANY OTHER THINGS I HAD TO DO AS FAR AS PAPERWORK WENT,
AND I HAD TO TALK TO ALL MY NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200FT, TELL THEM I WAS HAVING A SHORT TERM RENTAL, AND JUST ADVISE THEM OF THE FACT. 
          SO IF THEY WERE UNHAPPY WITH THE SITUATION, THEN THEY COULD DEAL WITH IT. 
          ALSO, I HAD TO HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN. I COULD ONLY HAVE FOUR CARS THERE. 
          TWO IN THE GARAGE AND TWO IN THE DRIVEWAY. NOTHING ON THE STREET. 
          ANYWAY, MY MAIN THING IS I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE PERMITTING. 
          I DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S ANYTHING BEING ADDRESSED RIGHT NOW ON HOW YOU ACTUALLY GET A
PERMIT TO BE AN STR, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. ALSO LIVING NEXT DOOR TO 3401 RIDGE DALE WITH
THE BIG POOL IN THE BACK. 
          WE'RE SEPARATED BY A WROUGHT IRON FENCE. I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE IF
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL. 
          I'M NOT SAYING THE WHOLE PROPERTY HAS TO HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE,
BUT AT LEAST THE BACKYARD. 
          I MEAN, I'VE GOT A SWIMMING POOL BACK THERE NEXT DOOR TO ME THAT I HEAR ALL THE TIME IS
RIGHT NEXT TO MY GARDEN. 
          I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. AND IT'S JUST NOISY AND I SEE IT AND IT'S SCREAMING AND SPLASHING,
AND I FEEL LIKE THERE HAS TO BE A PRIVACY FENCE ON A, ON A SELF-CONTAINED TO BE SELF-CONTAINED AND BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER THINGS. 
          BUT THIS HAD ALL BEEN SENT TO EVERY ONE OF YOU AS AN EMAIL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. 
          I WAS ON VACATION. AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE I WANT TO SELL MY HOUSE AND I AM A
REALTOR, AND WHO'S GOING TO WANT TO BUY MY HOUSE WITH AN 11 BEDROOM,
SIX AND A HALF BATH HOME BEING RENTED OUT AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL NEXT TO ME? WOULD YOU WANT TO BUY IT? IT'S JUST AN IMPOSSIBLE SITUATION. 
          AND BEING A REALTOR, I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT GARLAND WAS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. 
          WE'VE GOT GREAT PRICES. YOU CAN GET A REALLY GREAT HOUSE FOR A MUCH BETTER PRICE THAN YOU
COULD IF YOU WERE LIKE IN NORTH DALLAS. 
          AND WE HAVE A GREAT SCHOOL SYSTEM. I HAVE TO ASK YOU TO SUM UP NOW. 
          OKAY. WE HAVE A GREAT SCHOOL SYSTEM. I USED TO TEACH,
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE, 
          [00:05:04]
BUT UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES I WOULD THINK TWICE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. MADAM SECRETARY,
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. SORRY. EXCUSE ME. OH, YES. 
          I THINK WE HAVE A MA'AM. IF YOU'D COME BACK. COME BACK? YES, MA'AM. I THINK WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. YEAH. 
          COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. HELLO? HERE. WHO HAVE YOU? WHO HAVE YOU TALKED TO ABOUT THE ART? THE EXISTING ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. 
          WELL, IT'S JUST IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO GOT AN STR FOR THAT
11 BEDROOM, SIX AND A HALF BATH HOUSE THAT ALL HE DID WAS PAY $50 FOR A PERMIT. 
          BUT IT WAS NEVER IT WAS NEVER INSPECTED. WELL,
MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, HAVE YOU TALKED WITH AN OFFICIAL WITH PERMITTING ABOUT THE SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR THE CITY OF GUANA? NO, I HAVE NOT. I RECEIVED SOMETHING FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY WHICH SAID. 
          WHICH TALKS ABOUT TALKED ABOUT WHAT KIND OF CHANGES THEY WERE HOPING TO MAKE,
AND IT COULD BE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT AND THEN VOTED ON TOMORROW. 
          BUT IT DID NOT ADDRESS ANYTHING ABOUT PERMITTING. 
          AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, AND YOU DID NOT FOLLOW UP AND CONTACT THE CITY ATTORNEY OR ANYBODY
AS FAR AS THAT, AS FAR AS THIS ORDINANCE WAS CONCERNED. CORRECT. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ONE MORE. EXCUSE ME MA'AM. 
          ONE MORE. WE HAVE A LATE QUESTION FOR YOU. YOU'RE GETTING YOUR EXERCISE IN? YEP. WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU, MA'AM. 
          ALL RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM, SORRY FOR THE BACK AND FORTH. 
          SO OUR OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE AN INSPECTION TO GET A PERMIT. 
          AN INSPECTION WAS DONE. I THINK. WILL YOU SPEAK TO WHEN A WHEN THE PERMIT WAS ISSUED FOR
THAT LOCATION, DID THEY HAVE 11 BEDROOMS AND SIX AND A HALF BATHS? I HAVE NO IDEA. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN THE PERMIT WAS EXECUTED. 
          I THINK THAT FROM TALKING WITH OTHER NEIGHBORS,
I THINK THAT THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN THAT THEY HAD AS FAR AS PERMITTING GOES, WAS THAT DURING THE COURSE OF HAVING AN STR PERMIT,
THE STR PUT IN MORE BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS WITHOUT A PERMIT AND BASICALLY INCREASED THEIR CAPACITY. 
          SO OUR CURRENT PERMITTING SYSTEM, I DON'T THINK,
REALLY ADDRESSES CAPACITY, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS CAPACITY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT PART OF IT IS ADDRESSED AND WE CAN KIND OF
COORDINATE THE PERMITTING PROCESS IN THAT WAY. 
          WELL, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, I FEEL LIKE THE INSPECTION WASN'T REALLY DONE AS COMPLETE AS IT
MIGHT HAVE BEEN. WELL, I MEAN, THERE IT WAS A HOUSE IN GOOD CONDITION. 
          SO THERE THERE'S THERE'S I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE AND. 
          I CAN'T. I HAVEN'T SEEN AN INSPECTION REPORT,
SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT MIGHT BE ON THAT. 
          BUT I DO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR, OUR STAFF THAT IF THERE WERE ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE
ADDRESSED, THOSE WERE ADDRESSED BEFORE A PERMIT WAS OFF. 
          HE GOT HIS PERMIT BEFORE HE STARTED MAKING ALL THE CHANGES. 
          YES, I'M SURE IT WAS IN GREAT SHAPE. UNDERSTOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE YOU LEAVE. 
          ANYONE ELSE? LAST CHANCE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY,
I BELIEVE WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. 
          OKAY. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO WRITTEN BRIEFINGS. 
          ITEM NUMBER ONE IS 2025 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. 
          [1. 2025 Capital Improvement Program (CIP) Budget Amendment No. 2]
AND ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR WRITTEN BRIEFINGS IS AMENDMENT TO THE TAX RULE. 
          AND COUNCIL. ALSO THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT ITEM AS WELL. 
          [ CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA]
I HAVEN'T HAD ANY ITEMS OTHER THAN ITEM NUMBER THREE,
THE FOREIGN TRADE ZONE DESIGNATION BE POOLED. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT SEPARATELY TOMORROW. 
          IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED, PLEASE LET ME KNOW OR LET STAFF KNOW BEFORE THE
MEETING TOMORROW AND WE'LL HAVE BE READY FOR A PRESENTATION. 
          [00:10:06]
ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. AND MOVE ON THEN TO VERBAL BRIEFINGS. 
          [3. Introduction of New Directors]
INTRODUCE INTRODUCTION OF NEW DIRECTORS. EXCITING TIME IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR COUNCIL. YEAH. 
          OKAY. I AM SUPER EXCITED TO FORMALLY INTRODUCE,
EVEN THOUGH WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT AT SATURDAY'S WORK SESSION, BUT FORMALLY INTRODUCE THE TWO DIRECTORS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION HAVE CARRIE PACHECO. 
          SHE'S THE NEW PARK OPERATIONS DIRECTOR. SHE ACTUALLY WORKED FOR THE ORGANIZATION SEVERAL
YEARS AGO. 
          SHE WAS HIRED IN ON THE RECREATION SIDE, AND WHEN SHE LEFT,
SHE WAS WORKING AS A PARK MAINTENANCE MANAGER. 
          SO ON THE PARK OPERATIONS SIDE. SO SHE HAS A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE DEPARTMENT AS A
WHOLE. 
          AND THEN ALBERT MONTERO IS THE RECREATION DIRECTOR. 
          ALBERT HAS BEEN WITH OUR ORGANIZATION FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS AND HE'S GRADUALLY WORKED HIS
WAY UP. 
          HE STARTED OFF AS A COMMUNITY SERVICES COORDINATOR. 
          HE THEN BECAME A RECREATION MANAGER AND THEN RECREATION MANAGER,
RECREATION AND SENIOR SERVICES MANAGER. 
          SO I'M GOING TO LET EACH OF THEM KIND OF INTRODUCE THEMSELVES,
BUT SUPER, SUPER EXCITED. 
          THIS IS A GREAT TEAM. THEY COORDINATED OUTFITS TODAY FROM HEAD TO TOE. 
          SO WE DID. THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL. I'M HONORED TO SERVE AS YOUR NEW PARKS DIRECTOR AND SO
EXCITED TO BE HERE. 
          IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION AND A GREAT TEAM THAT I GET TO WORK WITH. 
          SO I'M SUPER EXCITED. I LOVE PARKS AND REC AND PARK OPERATIONS,
SPECIFICALLY JUST CREATING SAFE SPACES FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY TO GATHER AND AND CONNECT. 
          AND SO AGAIN, I'M JUST EXCITED TO BE HERE AND WORK FOR Y'ALL. 
          GOOD EVENING. I'M EXCITED THAT I'M STILL HERE. 
          SO I REALLY ENJOY GARLAND. I'VE BEEN WITH GARLAND ALMOST 20 YEARS,
AND I LOVE THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I LOVE THE DIVERSITY OF OUR STAFF AND AND OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO I'M REALLY EXCITED MOVING FORWARD, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          ALL RIGHT. WELCOME. WELCOME, BOTH OF YOU. WELCOME BACK. 
          AND GLAD YOU'RE STILL HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM RIGHT NOW. NO. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON TEAM GARLAND. 
          THANK YOU. OH, MR. WILLIAMS, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. YOU GOT TO BE. YOU GOT TO BE QUICKER ON THE DRAW. 
          I'VE LEARNED THAT. I'LL GIVE YOU A THREE SECOND COUNTDOWN LIKE MAYOR LEMAY USED TO DO
THAT. 
          COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, PLEASE GO AHEAD. WE JUST ONE QUESTION. 
          MADAM DIRECTOR, WHERE'S YOUR OFFICE? I'M A PARK OPERATIONS CENTER WITH THE PARKS TEAM. 
          AND WHERE IS THAT LOCATED? THAT'S ON TOWER STREET,
OFF COMMERCE. 
          OKAY. AND WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED? I'M AT THE APOLLO ADMINISTRATION OFFICE AND RIGHT THERE
AT COOMER PARK WEST. 
          ADDRESS? OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I KNOW HOW TO GET THERE. 
          OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. WELL. WELCOME BACK. WELCOME TO THE CITY. 
          AND WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU SIR. I HOPE YOU'LL BE SENDING THEM COOKIES NOW THAT YOU WANT THAT ADDRESS. ALL
RIGHT. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES FOR POSSIBLE APPOINTMENT
TO THE GARLAND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION COUNCIL. 
          [4. Interview candidates for possible appointment to the Garland Housing Finance Corporation]
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE CANDIDATE, PC MATTHEW,
REQUEST, TO BE REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION. 
          SO WE'LL START WITH THE TOP OF OUR LIST. MR. MOHAMMAD JUNAID,
IF YOU'D COME UP, PLEASE, SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT. IF YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE INTRODUCTION ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHY YOU WANT TO BE
ON THE BOARD. 
          OH, YEAH. MY SERVICE. MAMA. JANET. I'LL JUST PULL THAT MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER,
IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU PRONOUNCE SPELL YOU MUHAMMAD JUNAID? MUCH? E A D MUHAMMAD. LAST NAME JUNAID H A M A D JANET. LAST NAME JANET AND ADE. OKAY, OKAY. 
          OH, IT'S ALL RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. SO I'VE BEEN LIVING IN PORTLAND FOR LAST TEN YEARS. GARLAND IS THE FIRST CITY I LANDED WHEN I CAME TO USA TEN YEARS BACK. 
          I LANDED IN GARLAND. AND EVER SINCE, I AM LIVING IN GARLAND. 
          SO BEING A LONG TERM RESIDENT OF GARLAND AND SEEING A LOT OF CHANGES IN GARLAND,
I HAVE A PERSONAL CONNECTION AND 
          [00:15:05]
ASSOCIATION WITH GARLAND. I WANT TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OVER HERE. 
          AND I AM PROFESSIONAL ACCOUNTANT. I AM A BRITISH CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT,
WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO US CPA. 
          I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN REAL ESTATE SECTOR FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS,
INCLUDING REID'S PRIVATE EQUITY OR REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT. I HAVE ALSO WORKED IN CBRE,
AND MY LAST JOB WAS IN HOUSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY. 
          SO I HAVE WORK. WHILE WORKING OVER THERE, I HAVE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOUSING AUTHORITIES,
HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS. AND I HAVE TRAINED MYSELF, GAINED A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE INNER WORKINGS
OF THIS TYPE OF ORGANIZATION TO PROVIDE LOW INCOME HOUSING TO LOW INCOME FAMILIES. BEING RAISED UP MYSELF IN A RENTED PROPERTY. 
          I HAVE SEEN MY PARENTS STRUGGLE PAYING RENT AND PAYING BILLS ALONGSIDE PAYING FOR OUR
EDUCATION. 
          SO I HAVE FIRSTHAND EXPOSURE OF THE DIFFICULTIES AND THE CHALLENGES THAT THESE LOW INCOME
FAMILIES DO HAVE IN KEEP UP WITH THE WITH THE HOUSING AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO I WANT TO CONTRIBUTE WITH MY SKILL COMPETENCIES MY ENERGY ARE TO PROVIDE,
YOU KNOW, WHATEVER I CAN TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS PROVIDING,
YOU KNOW, BRING CHANGE, BRING UP SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE AND, YOU KNOW, TO THEIR TO THEIR LIFE. SO THAT'S THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE. 
          IT'S IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR MY PERSONAL PROFILE BECAUSE I WORK IN A PRIVATE CORPORATE SECTOR
OR BUT THAT IS NOT THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE. 
          THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY,
TO GIVE BACK TO THE SOCIETY, TO DO WORK FOR GREATER GOOD, GREATER CAUSE. SO FAR I'VE BEEN WORKING IN PRIVATE SECTOR,
MAKING TOP DOLLARS FOR PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. 
          SO NOW I WANT TO UTILIZE MY POTENTIAL, MY ENERGY TO THE GREATER GOOD OF THE SOCIETY. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE MY FIRST TASK IF I GET APPOINTED IN IN THAT ROUTE. 
          ALL RIGHT. GOOD COUNSEL. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHAT DO YOU LIKE TO REFER TO? GRENADA. MOHAMMED. JUNIOR. OKAY. HAVING LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY
OF WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT YOU MIGHT BRING TO THAT ORGANIZATION? THAT IS NOT HAPPENING PRESENTLY. WELL, I'M NOT MUCH AWARE THAT WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING OR
CURRENTLY INSIDE THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, BUT DEFINITELY I CAN BRING A LOT OF BUSINESS PROCESS
IMPROVEMENT. 
          I CAN BRING A LOT, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, NEW IDEAS. 
          THE OBJECTIVE OF A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION IS TO CREATE. 
          FINANCING IS TO ESTABLISH AND DEVELOP FINANCING ARRANGEMENT SO THAT OUR HOUSING
AUTHORITIES AND COLLABORATE WITH HOUSING AUTHORITIES TO BUILD THE INVENTORY OF LOW INCOME HOUSING UNITS. 
          SO BEING WORKED IN A PRIVATE EQUITY REIT. I KNOW EXACTLY THAT HOW TO DO THAT,
HOW TO CREATE YOU KNOW, FINANCING, HOW TO ARRANGE FINANCING, WHETHER IT IS DEBT FINANCING OR EQUITY FINANCING,
HOW TO COLLABORATE WITH DIFFERENT PRIVATE ENTITIES TO MAKE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN THROUGH VARIOUS PROGRAMS. TAX CREDIT IS ONE OF THEM. AND THERE COULD BE OTHER PROGRAMS AS WELL THAT WE CAN EXPLORE
WITH PRIVATE ENTITIES TO INCREASE THE LOW INCOME INVENTORY IN OUR CITY. SO, I MEAN, I CAN BRING MY ENERGY EFFORTS,
KNOWLEDGE OF FINANCING BUSINESS OPERATIONS A COMMUNICATION OR EXPLORING NEW IDEAS,
NEW MECHANISM, OR TO TO COLLABORATE WITH OTHER CITY OF THE CITY OF GARLAND DEPARTMENTS AND PRIVATE ENTITIES. 
          SO IT WOULD BE A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR BOTH PRIVATE ENTITY PRIVATE PARTNER AS WELL. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE LIKE INVENTORY UNITS AVAILABLE FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. 
          HELLO. WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE GARLAND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION'S MISSION AND
ITS ROLE IN SUPPORTING HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN GARLAND? 
          [00:20:08]
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS LIMITED TO WHATEVER AVAILABLE ON THEIR WEBSITE,
WHICH IS TO OR AGAIN SUPPORT OF CITY OF HOUSTON HOUSING DEPARTMENT IN CREATING MORE AND MORE LOW INCOME HOUSING FOR LOW INCOME
FAMILIES. 
          THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH A COUPLE OF PRIVATE PARTIES TO DEVELOP THOSE PROPERTIES. 
          AND THEY BUY. I MEAN, THEY EXPLORE AND DO WHATEVER THE OPPORTUNITY THEY CAN EXPLORE TO
BRING MORE INVENTORY IN LOW INCOME HOUSING UNITS. SO MY UNDERSTANDING SO FAR IS LIMITED TO WHAT
INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THEIR WEBSITE. BUT IN GENERAL, I DO KNOW HOW THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES AND HOUSING FINANCE
CORPORATION DO WORK. 
          WHAT IS THEIR BUSINESS MODEL, HOW THEY OPERATE,
HOW THEY FUNCTION, AND WHAT IS AN IDEAL OR AN EFFICIENT HOUSING AUTHORITY AND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION DO LOOK LIKE UP. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF TASKS THAT HOUSING
AUTHORITY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO EXECUTE EFFECTIVELY, BUT HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION CAN EXECUTE EFFECTIVELY AND IN COLLABORATION
WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, PRODUCE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF GOOD PROJECT WHEN IT COMES TO BOND
ISSUANCE OF BOND. 
          HART DO NOT APPRECIATE HOUSING AUTHORITIES TO ISSUE BOND PUBLIC BOND BECAUSE HUD SEES THAT
IT IS. 
          HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION HAS TO ISSUE BOND CREATION OF FINANCES,
MAKE AVAILABLE FINANCES TO HOUSING AUTHORITIES, AND THEY AND HOUSING AUTHORITY WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION HAND
IN HAND. 
          SO IT IS A LOT OF COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS WITH A LOT OF EXTERNAL PARTIES AND STAKEHOLDERS. 
          AWESOME. THANK YOU. CAN WE ALSO JUST TAKE A SECOND FOR EVERYONE TO PUT THEIR PHONES ON
SILENT, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PHONES GOING CRAZY. YEAH,
PLEASE. 
          AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MAYOR. GOOD EVENING YEAH, SIR. HOW DO YOU HOW WOULD YOU ENSURE IF YOU ARE
APPOINTED? HOW WOULD YOU ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY WHEN REVIEWING THE G. 
          H FCC'S BUDGET BOND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? SO I AM A BRITISH CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT. 
          I HAVE STARTED MY CAREER FROM A PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM AS AN AUDITOR. 
          I AM A BRITISH CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT, WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO US CPA,
AND I HAVE STARTED MY CAREER FROM A PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM, GRANT ROWDEN, AS AN AUDITOR AND MADE MY WAY UP TO AUDIT SUPERVISOR. 
          SO TRANSPARENCY, INTERNAL CONTROL, AUDIT. THESE ARE MY EXPERTISE. 
          RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING OF MY CAREER AND THROUGHOUT MY CAREER,
I HAVE DEVELOPED A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONAL WIDE BUDGETS FOR MANY DIFFERENT CORPORATIONS AND INTERNAL CONTROL. CHECK AND BALANCE. TRANSPARENCY. 
          INTERNAL AUDIT A. ACCOUNTING OR FORENSIC ACCOUNTING IS MY AREA OF EXPERTISE. 
          THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING THROUGHOUT MY CAREER 18 YEARS OF MY CAREER. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          LOOK HOW WOULD YOU ENSURE GARLAND'S HOUSING NEEDS ARE REPRESENTED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE
CITY? LOW HOUSING UNITS ARE FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES,
AND THERE ARE HARD REGULATION THAT. 
          WHO QUALIFIES FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE HOUSING UNITS? AND IN MOST OF BIG CITIES, THERE IS A BIG CU IN FROM THE APPLICANT. 
          LIKE IN HOUSTON, THERE IS A THREE YEARS WAITING LIST FOR AN APPLICANT TO GET A PUBLIC
HOUSING FINANCE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS THE SITUATION OVER HERE IN IN
GARLAND BECAUSE GARLAND DOES NOT HAVE A STANDARD OR A STAND ALONE SEPARATE HOUSING AUTHORITY. IT IS ONE OF THE FUNCTIONS OF CITY OF GARLAND. 
          SO THE ONLY WAY TO OR DECREASE THAT WAITING TIME WAITING QUEUE IS INCREASE THE INVENTORY
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, WHEREVER IT IS POSSIBLE. AND HOWEVER, IS IT IS POSSIBLE WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF,
YOU KNOW, HERD AND CITIES CODES AND EVERYTHING. SO. AGAIN,
I FORGET THE QUESTION HOW WOULD YOU ENSURE GARLAND'S HOUSING NEEDS ARE REPRESENTED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY? 
          [00:25:02]
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY REPRESENTATIVE? I'M NOT FOCUSED IN ONE SPECIFIC AREA THROUGH ALL
MARKETING, THROUGH ADVERTISEMENT, THROUGH WORD OF MOUTH THROUGH,
YOU KNOW, CONVEY THE MESSAGE TO ALL PARTS OF GARLAND CITY, TO ALL SEGMENTS OF GARLAND CITY, TO ALL DEMOGRAPHIC,
YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHICS OF CITY OF GARLAND. 
          AND LET THE RESIDENTS AWARE THAT THERE IS A LOW INCOME HOUSING PROGRAM AND THIS IS WHAT
THEIR, YOU KNOW, QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENT. AND THIS IS AND THIS IS WHAT THE AVAILABILITY ARE,
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME THE APPLICANTS DO NOT APPLY. 
          EVEN THE LOW INCOME FAMILIES, THEY DO NOT APPLY FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING BECAUSE THERE IS A
PRESUMPTION THAT THE WAITING QUEUE IS TOO LONG. 
          IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOREVER TO GET A HOUSING,
YOU KNOW, IN PUBLIC HOUSING. 
          SO THE COMMUNICATION PEOPLE TO PEOPLE CONTACT ORGANIZING,
YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT EVENT. 
          ALSO SEE THE AVERAGE MEDIUM INCOME OF DIFFERENT PARTS OF GARLAND. 
          BECAUSE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITIES GARLAND HAVE DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHY,
DIFFERENT AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS PRIMARILY TO LOW INCOME ZIP CODES,
LOW INCOME, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITY COMMUNITIES AND REACH OUT TO THEM IN WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE WAYS AND AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WHAT PROGRAMS
WE DO HAVE, WHAT WE ARE DOING AND NOT ONLY TO LET THEM KNOW,
BUT ALSO GET THEIR FEEDBACK, WHAT THEY ARE EXPECTING, WHAT THEY ARE HOPING FROM THEIR CITY, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE TWO WAY. 
          I BELIEVE IN OPEN COMMUNICATION. I BELIEVE IN TOP UP,
TOP DOWN COMMUNICATION AND ALSO BOTTOM UP COMMUNICATION, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP OF ANY TYPICAL
ORGANIZATION, THEY MAY NOT, MIGHT BE WELL AWARE OF THE NEEDS OF OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOWER IN THE
HIERARCHY, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE LOW INCOME FAMILIES,
MAYBE THEY DON'T NEED TWO BEDROOM HOUSE. 
          MAYBE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ELSE. MAYBE THEY DON'T NEED A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE. 
          YOU KNOW. SO SO IT'S A TWO WAY COMMUNICATION. 
          AND IT WOULD BE OUR JOB TO TO GET TO KNOW EXACTLY THAT. 
          WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTS. HOW MUCH CAN THEY CAN AFFORD. 
          HERTZ. IS THAT 60% API? OKAY, FINE. BUT I KNOW THERE ARE FAMILIES THAT THEY CANNOT EVEN
AFFORD 60% API. 
          SO WHAT ABOUT THEM? WHO GOING TO CATER THEM? SO BUT THIS IS HER MAIN REQUIREMENT. 
          BUT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION CAN SUPERSEDE THE HERTZ MINIMUM
REQUIREMENT. 
          AND WE CAN COME UP WITH OUR OWN. LET ME SAY OKAY,
40% AMI AS LONG AS THE EXPENDITURE OF THOSE OF THAT COMMUNITY OF THAT APARTMENT OR SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY ARE,
ARE, ARE, ARE BEING MET, 70% HEARD HAVE NO OBJECTION IN LOWER DOWNING THE THE AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME. 
          SO I MEAN, THIS IS I MEAN, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO AND FIND OUT THE EXACT NEED
AND REQUIREMENT, HOPES AND EXPECTATION OF THE CITIZENS AND TRY TO,
YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THEM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE CAN DO WITH AVAILABLE RESOURCES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH, BECAUSE FINANCIAL RESOURCES IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH INNOVATIVE IDEAS TO ARRANGE FINANCES. 
          AND I DO NOT BELIEVE ON GOVERNMENT GRANTS AND SUBSIDIES. 
          I BELIEVE THAT ANY ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE SELF-SUSTAINING,
SHOULD SHOULD GENERATE THEIR OWN REVENUES ENOUGH THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE DEPENDENT ON FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS OR STATE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES OR GRANTS. 
          AND THERE ARE MANY WAYS OF DOING THAT WITH PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP,
FOR EXAMPLE, THE ENGLISH CHANNEL, WHICH RUNS RUN ACROSS FRANCE AND BRITAIN. THAT PROJECT IS ENTIRELY PUBLIC PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP. 
          THAT IS THE FIRST EVER GIGANTIC PROJECT IN THE HISTORY OF HUMANKIND. 
          YOU KNOW AND IT WAS TOTALLY FINANCED BY PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. 
          THERE WAS NO GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY, NOT THE GOVERNMENT OF UK OR FRANCE SUBSIDIZED ANYTHING. 
          IT WAS TOTALLY PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. SO IF THEY CAN PULL OFF THAT BIG PROJECT WITH
PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WHY CAN'T WE? WE JUST NEED TO REACH OUT TO PRIVATE YOU KNOW,
ENTITIES, DEVELOPERS. 
          BECAUSE I HAVE WORK IN REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT MYSELF IN FINANCE COMMUNITIES WHO IS LIKE
LARGE MASTER PLAN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPERS. 
          AND THE DEVELOPMENT COST CAN BE CONTROLLED AS WELL. 
          SO IF WE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH COUPLE OF YOU KNOW,
PARTIES LIKE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS OR PRIVATE EQUITIES OR 
          [00:30:06]
WITH CITY OF GARLAND. WE CAN DEVELOP HUGE INVENTORY. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY DEVELOPMENT, I SAY GROUND UP DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION
COST AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FEE DEBT. 
          AND HEDWIG IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, A CIVIL ENGINEER IS HUGE HERE IN USA,
WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAJOR COST COMPONENT IN YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO IF SOMEHOW WE CAN CONTROL THAT AND BRING THAT DOWN,
YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE SOME OF OUR CITY'S COURSE CODES FOR THAT SPECIFIC FOR PUBLIC HOUSING, NOT FOR THE ALL,
YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO COME WITH SOME SORT OF INNOVATIVE, OUT-OF-THE-BOX IDEAS TO, TO GENERATE FINANCES OF OUR OWN AND THEN INVEST IN A WAY THAT
THAT ASSET, MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE FAMILY, WOULD GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE BY ITSELF THAT IT WOULD NOT BE
DEPENDENT ON HERD SUBSIDIES OR FINANCING. 
          I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. 
          I THINK WE ALL AIM TO LEAN IN THAT DIRECTION,
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PROGRAMS THAT NEED A LOT OF FUNDING. 
          YOU DID MENTION GROUND UP DEVELOPMENTS, AND I KNOW THAT VFC FOCUSES MANY TIMES ON
REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. 
          SO DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS? YES. I HAVE EXPOSURE IN WORKING. SO IN MY PAST OR CAREER WE HAVE I HAVE WORKED WITH REAL
ESTATE COMPANIES WHERE WE HAVE BOUGHT DISTRESSED ASSETS, YOU KNOW, RENOVATED,
TURNED IT AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, SOLD IT TO THE MARKET. 
          SO, YES, AGAIN, I DO HAVE EXPOSURE FOR REDEVELOPMENT. 
          AND I ALSO HAVE EXPOSURE FOR GROUND UP DEVELOPMENT,
ESPECIALLY IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, LARGE SCALE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IN A FINANCE COMPANY. COMMUNITIES. WHEN I WAS WORKING OVER THERE AS AN ACCOUNTING MANAGER,
I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR USD HEARTLAND. 
          YOU MUST BE FAMILIAR. CITY OF HEARTLAND AT HIGHWAY 30. 
          IT HAPPENED IN TWO PHASES. ABOUT 10,000 LOTS ALTOGETHER,
INCLUDING MUD. 
          SO YES, I DO HAVE THAT EXPOSURE. WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR 10,000 NEW LOTS
ANYWHERE, I DON'T THINK. I WISH WE DID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. 
          YES, SIR. I'M LOOKING AT YOUR RESUME. QUITE IMPRESSIVE FOR A YOUNG MAN. 
          IF I DO SAY SO. I SEE YOUR LAST EXPERIENCE LISTED HERE. 
          CONTROLLER OF THE HOUSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY. THAT WENT FROM OCTOBER OF 2024 TO APRIL OF
2025. 
          YES, SIR. AND SO YOU'RE APPLYING FOR A POSITION HERE. 
          THAT'S A SIX YEAR TERM. CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WERE ONLY AT THE HOUSTON
HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR SIX MONTHS. 
          SO I HAVE I'M LIVING IN DALLAS AREA IN GARLAND FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS,
AND I HAD NO INTENTION TO MOVE ANYWHERE. 
          LIVE GARLAND AND DALLAS AREA AND MOVE RELOCATE ANYWHERE. 
          I WAS WORKING IN A REIT FOR AN MCR, WHERE I WAS A REGIONAL CONTROLLER RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE
ONE OF THEIR FUND FULL CYCLE ACCOUNTING AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT. I WAS NOT ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR A JOB,
OR I NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION TO RELOCATE. 
          THE MY BOSS OVER THERE IN HOUSTON, HOUSING AUTHORITY SVP,
FINANCE. 
          THEY SAW MY PROFILE OVER LINKEDIN, AND THEY REACH ME OUT THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE
WHO HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS PROCESS IMPROVEMENT AND ERP IMPLEMENTATION EXPOSURE. THEY WANTED TO SWITCH TO ERD VOYAGER. 
          THEY WERE USING SOME, YOU KNOW, LEGACY ERP SYSTEM,
AND THEY OFFERED ME A POSITION FOR CONTROLLER CHIP. 
          INITIALLY, I WAS RELUCTANT TO GO THERE BECAUSE OF TWO REASONS. 
          FIRST, I HAD TO RELOCATE TO HOUSTON FOR THAT JOB. 
          SECOND, THAT I HAD NEVER WORKED IN A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION EVER BEFORE. 
          BUT AFTER, YOU KNOW, A BACK AND FORTH COMMUNICATION THEY ARE,
YOU KNOW, PERSUADED ME TO COME OVER BECAUSE THEY NEEDED SOMEONE WHO COULD DRIVE CHANGE. 
          ORGANIZATION WIDE, ESPECIALLY IN ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THE SVP, FINANCE, SHE WAS ALSO FAIRLY NEWER THERE. 
          SHE'S BEEN AROUND FOR TWO YEARS. THE CEO BROUGHT HER APPOINTED HER AS SECOND IN COMMAND TO
DRIVE CHANGE BECAUSE HOUSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY IS A VERY OLD HOUSING AUTHORITY. AND THEIR BUSINESS PROCESSES FUNCTION. 
          THE WAY THEY OPERATE IS IS OLD SCHOOL LEGACY INEFFICIENT? AND THEY WANTED TO UPGRADE THE OVERALL SYSTEMS. AND MY BOSS, SHE HIRED ME FOR THAT. SO I JOINED THE AGENCY IN OCTOBER WITH THE INTENTION
OF RELOCATE. 
          INITIALLY, I WENT THERE BY MYSELF ALONE. YOU KNOW,
MY FAMILY WAS HERE, AND EVERY WEEKEND I USED TO DRIVE. 
          YOU KNOW THAT'S HOW I INITIALLY PLANNED. AND IN JANUARY,
THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR HOUSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY, 
          [00:35:05]
THEY FIRE THE CEO IN ALLEGATION OF CORRUPTION AND FINANCIAL MISAPPROPRIATION. 
          THE NEW CEO CAME ON BOARD IN FEBRUARY, AND HE FIRED ALL THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP THAT WAS
APPOINTED BY THE FORMER CEO. 
          AND MY BOSS, WHO RECRUITED ME, APPOINTED ME OVER THERE,
YOU KNOW, AND WITH WITH WITH WHOM I SUPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, RESTRUCTURE AND REORGANIZE THE WHOLE ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          SHE'S GONE. SO ONCE HE IS GONE, THEN THAT POSITION WAS NOT REMAINED WORTH IT FOR ME TO
RELOCATE FROM DALLAS, FROM GARLAND TO HOUSTON. CONSIDERING THE WORK ENVIRONMENT,
THE CULTURE OVER THERE. 
          AND I HAVE ALWAYS WORKED IN A PRIVATE SECTOR WHERE THE WORK ETHICS ARE ALREADY
PROFESSIONAL, WHERE I HAVE ALWAYS WORKED IN A FAST PACED WORK ENVIRONMENT,
YOU KNOW, GETTING THINGS DONE IMMEDIATELY, FAST AND OVER THERE IS A WHOLE STORY AGAIN. SO FINALLY I DECIDED NOW THIS JOB IS NOT WORTH
FOR ME TO TO RELOCATE. 
          AND IF I STAYED OVER THERE, I THERE THERE MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY TO THAT I MIGHT CONSUME
IN A CULTURE. 
          SO AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS I COMPLETED MY TASK ON HAND,
WHICH IS ALREADY VOYAGER IMPLEMENTATION. 
          SO AS SOON AS I COMPLETED THAT, I QUIT AND CAME BACK TO DALLAS AND LOOKING FOR MY,
YOU KNOW, NEXT ROLE AS A PERMANENT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. 
          SO I AM BEING INTERVIEWED IN A COUPLE OF, YOU KNOW ORGANIZATION AND ESPECIALLY MAINLY IN
REAL ESTATE. 
          AND SO WHEN I CAME BACK, I TRAVELED ABROAD, YOU KNOW,
I WENT TO PAKISTAN, DUBAI, ITALY, BECAUSE EVER SINCE I CAME TO USA, I NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO TRAVEL. SO I MADE A GOOD,
YOU KNOW, USE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, TIME OFF. 
          AND I JUST CAME BACK LAST MONTH AND NOW, YOU KNOW,
LOOKING FOR MY NEXT POSITION. 
          VERY GOOD. GOOD ANSWER. I'VE ALSO WORKED ON PROJECTS. 
          AND YOU GET TO THE END OF THE IMPLEMENTATION AND IT'S DONE. 
          THAT'S A GOOD TIME TO GO ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. 
          AND SO THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER BASS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU MOHAMMAD. APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TODAY. REALLY? LIKE WHAT I'VE
HEARD SO FAR. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR COMMUNICATION STYLE WHEN COLLABORATING WITH BOARD MEMBERS? WHEN COLLABORATING WITH CITY STAFF? I'VE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU'D LIKE TO WORK FAST TO MAKE THINGS GO EFFICIENTLY. SO
HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU TRANSLATE THAT INTO COLLABORATING WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS? SO OBVIOUSLY EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. EVERY PERSONALITY IS DIFFERENT. 
          SO IT'S I THINK ONCE JUDGMENT HOW TO APPROACH A PERSON IN SUBJECT,
YOU KNOW I MAY APPROACH YOU DIFFERENTLY. 
          I MAY APPROACH, YOU KNOW MAYOR DIFFERENTLY. SO IT'S IT'S YOUR JUDGMENT. 
          IT'S YOUR THAT YOU ASSESS. YOU SEE THE PERSON AND THEN YOU APPROACH THEM. 
          YOU KNOW, ACCORDINGLY. MY COMMUNICATION STYLE IS VERY OPEN AND I SHARE IDEAS FIRST AND I
AM DEMOCRATIC BASICALLY. SO HOW I APPROACH IS I FIRST SHARE IDEAS AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND OPINION ON
THAT IDEA. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THEN WITH LOGICAL ARGUMENT, YOU KNOW,
WITH A LITTLE BRAINSTORMING SESSION, I TRY, YOU KNOW, WE EXPLORE THE OPTION. MAYBE MY IDEA IS NOT VERY GOOD OR EFFECTIVE OR THE RIGHT
WAY OF DOING THINGS. 
          SO A LITTLE BRAINSTORMING SESSION WITH THE WITH THE PERSON AND THEN TRY TO CONCLUDE
SOMETHING YOU KNOW IMMEDIATELY AND ACT UPON IT. 
          MOST OF THE TIME, ESPECIALLY IN GOVERNMENT SECTOR THE WORK ENVIRONMENT IS SLOW PACED
BECAUSE THE TIMELY DECISION ARE NOT BEING MADE. 
          PEOPLE ARE IN LIMBO. WHETHER WE GO THIS ROUTE OR THAT ROUTE,
THEY TAKE TIME, A LOT OF DISCUSSION. 
          MY IDEA IS LET'S DO IT. EVEN IF IT IS WRONG,
WE WILL. 
          WE WILL GET TO KNOW IT AND WE WILL. WE'LL REDO IT AND WE'LL DO IT RIGHT AGAIN. 
          BUT IF WE DON'T DO IT, HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT? IS THAT WHAT IS THAT RIGHT THING OR WRONG THING AND BE IN A,
YOU KNOW, LIMBO OR FACE FOREVER. 
          SO I BELIEVE IN ACTIONS BESIDE OR DISCUSSION. 
          SO I THINK THERE IS A BALANCE. AND EVERY SITUATION,
EVERY PERSON IS DIFFERENT. 
          IT'S YOUR JUDGMENT THAT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE PARTICULAR SITUATION AND WITH THE PARTICULAR
PERSON. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS
APPLICANT? I SEE NONE, THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'LL CALL UP OUR NEXT APPLICANT, MR. SEAN BRIGHAM. 
          ALL RIGHT, SIR? JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF
THIS BOARD. 
          EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS SEAN BRIGHAM. EXCUSE ME. 
          [00:40:03]
MOVED HERE WITH MY FAMILY ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO NOW. 
          WIFE AND I ARE BOTH EDUCATORS WITH GARLAND ISD. 
          SO I'M WITH THE COMMUNITY A LOT. STARTED A NONPROFIT ALSO TRYING TO HELP FIRST TIME
HOMEBUYERS GET INTO HOUSES. 
          AND SO WHEN I SAW THIS POSITION OPEN UP I SAW THAT. 
          YEAH. THIS WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR WHAT I'M ALREADY TRYING TO DO. 
          AND I SAW THIS AS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WAY TO LEARN AND DO MORE AND OFFER MY EXPERTISE TO
WORK IN THE SAME AGENDA THAT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE AS WELL. VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU SIR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL? ON FROM THE COUNCIL. 
          THIS APPLICANT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MOORE. HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT,
SIR? VERY GOOD. WELCOME TO GARLAND. CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AS IT RELATES TO
YOUR EDUCATION, YOUR VOCATION AS IT RELATES TO THE JOB THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO GET INTO WITH THE GARLAND? YES. SO I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN EDUCATION, IN ECONOMICS,
AS WELL AS PERSONAL FINANCE. 
          UNDERGRAD ECON MASTERS IN FINANCE AND ALSO EDUCATION. 
          SO OVER THE YEARS, I STARTED OUT AS, I GUESS I WAS A BLACK SHEEP OF THE FAMILY,
WAS SUPPOSE TO BE IN EDUCATION TO START OUT WITH. 
          AND I DIDN'T GO STRAIGHT INTO EDUCATION. I WENT INTO THE WORLD OF FINANCE. SO I SPENT
ABOUT 12 OR SO YEARS IN FINANCE, MORTGAGE INVESTMENTS AND EVERYTHING THAT NATURE. 
          AND WHILE I WAS THERE IN THAT FIELD, I STARTED VOLUNTEERING AS A FINANCIAL COUNSELOR,
HELPING PEOPLE WITH THEIR FINANCES. 
          MOST OF THEM WERE TRYING TO BE IN HOUSING OR GET INTO HOUSING. 
          AND SO THAT IS KIND OF WHAT LED ME BACK TO THE EDUCATION WORLD,
BECAUSE HOMETOWN I'M FROM IN EDUCATION, THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELECTIVES. THERE WAS JUST SHOP OR YOUR REGULAR TEACHER
COME FROM A SMALL TOWN. 
          AND SO UP HERE I STARTED OH, WAIT, NO, THERE ARE LOTS OF ELECTIVES THAT I COULD ACTUALLY
TEACH AND USE MY EXPERTISE IN. 
          SO I STARTED TEACHING PERSONAL FINANCE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          DOING THIS, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, LIKE, I'M SURE MOST OF YOU ARE PARENTS,
BUT LOTS OF TIMES WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ME TO TEACH NIGHTS. AND SO AS AN ELEMENTARY TEACHER,
OF COURSE, THEY ALL SHOW UP. 
          BUT AS YOU, AS YOUR CHILD GETS UP IN AGE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL OR WHERE I WAS OR I WAS AT,
PARENTS DON'T SHOW UP. 
          AND SO I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I STARTED TO GET PARENTS SHOWING UP AND THEY WEREN'T SHOWING UP
BECAUSE THEY WERE ONCE THE OTHER KIDS WERE DOING. 
          IT WAS BECAUSE THE KIDS WERE ACTUALLY TAKING THE KNOWLEDGE I WAS SHARING WITH THEM IN THE
CLASSROOM AND TAKING HOME TO BENEFIT THEM, THEIR PARENTS AT HOME, TELLING THEM ABOUT STAY AWAY FROM THE PAYDAY LOANS,
TELLING THEM HOW TO GET A MORTGAGE, TELL THEM HOW TO SAVE UP FOR THE MORTGAGES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO SEEING THAT IS ALSO WHAT MADE ME WANT TO START OFFICIALLY START THE NONPROFIT THAT I
DID, SEEING THAT, HEY, I AM MAKING A DIFFERENCE. THINGS ARE MAKING CHANGES. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M WHERE I'M AT NOW, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. 
          YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK EVERYONE THE SAME QUESTION. 
          JUST SO YOU KNOW HOW WOULD YOU ENSURE GARLAND'S HOUSING NEEDS ARE REPRESENTED THROUGHOUT
THE ENTIRE CITY? THROUGHOUT THE CITY? I SEE THAT. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
WHAT THEY'RE ASKING. 
          YOU CAN'T JUST FOCUS ON ONE LEVEL. SO YOU HAVE THE FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS. 
          YOU HAVE THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT MAYBE, HEY,
WE HAD OUR STARTER HOME. 
          NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO GET INTO OUR DREAM HOME. 
          THEN YOU HAVE THE PHASE OF, HEY, OUR OUR SENIORS ARE READY TO MOVE OUT OF THEIR HOME AND
INTO ASSISTED LIVING HOMES. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO FOCUS AND LOOK AT IT AND SAY,
HEY, WHERE ARE THE DEMOGRAPHICS? WHAT DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THEM AND HOW CAN WE ASSIST THEM? BECAUSE A LOT OF A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME ACROSS,
THEY MAY QUALIFY FOR THE HOME, THEY MAY HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE HOME, BUT THEN WHEN THEY GET READY TO PURCHASE THE HOME,
THEY GET BEAT OUT BECAUSE SOME LARGE COMPANY CAME IN AND OFFERED WAY MORE THAN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO AND BE THE ACTUAL PERSON THAT WAS GOING THROUGH A HOME,
A PERSON THAT'S GOING TO LIVE IN THE HOME NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE SOME RANDOM COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO RENT IT OUT. 
          SO LIKE IN EDUCATION, WHAT WE DO OR WHAT I DO,
I JOINED THE DIFFERENT FACEBOOK GROUPS, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, SEE WHAT QUESTIONS THEY'RE HAVING, SEE WHAT FRUSTRATIONS THEY'RE HAVING. THAT'S ONE WAY
THAT THEY CAN HELP AS WELL. 
          SEE, BECAUSE NO ONE IN A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY COME UP TO YOU AND TELL
YOU WHAT'S WRONG, 
          [00:45:02]
BUT THEY WILL GLADLY PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. HEY,
WHAT'S WRONG? AND SO YOU JUST HAVE TO BE WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GO OUT AND FIND
THEM, THEY JUST, HEY, THEY TELL YOU WHERE THEY ARE,
THEY'RE HERE. 
          THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE COMPLAINING. THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOUR ANSWERS,
OR THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU NEED TO FIX. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BASS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU SEAN. APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT. CAN YOU TELL ME IF HAVE YOU
PREVIOUSLY SERVED ON A BOARD OF COMMISSION AND IF SO, SO WHAT ROLE DID YOU PLAY AND WHAT WERE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS? NOT WITH THE CITY. I AM CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD OF THE HIGH SCHOOL,
MY SON'S HIGH SCHOOL BAND, SO I VOLUNTEERED THERE ON THE BOARD, BUT NO CITY OFFICIAL BOARDS? NO. OKAY, AWESOME. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR. I'M TORN BETWEEN SEVERAL QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL LAND ON THIS ONE. 
          YOU SAID DO YOU FIRST THING, DO YOU NOW WORK FOR THE DISTRICT,
OR DID YOU PREVIOUSLY WORK FOR THE DISTRICT? NO. I'VE BEEN I'M STILL WITH THE DISTRICT. I'VE BEEN,
I THINK, COMING ON TEN YEARS NOW. 
          AND YOUR POSITION IS. CAN YOU BRIEFLY DESCRIBE IT? I'VE LEFT THE CLASSROOM. I WAS TEACHING PERSONAL FINANCE AND ECONOMICS,
AND NOW I BELIEVE THIS IS COMING ON YEAR FOUR. 
          NOW I'M WITH OUR DUAL CREDIT STUDENTS WHERE THEY ARE TAKING CLASSES TO GRADUATE WITH THEIR
ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE. 
          AND I OVERSEE THEM WHILE THEY ARE AT EASTFIELD COLLEGE. 
          OKAY. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, CAN YOU DESCRIBE A TIME YOU HAD TO MAKE A DIFFICULT DECISION
IN A PUBLIC HIGH STAKES ENVIRONMENT? AND WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE ONE WHAT WAS THE ISSUE? AND NUMBER TWO, WHAT WAS WHAT PROCESS DID YOU FOLLOW IN REACHING THAT DECISION? I GUESS WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH PRIVACY OR DETAIL IN EDUCATION,
THERE'S ALWAYS ISSUES THAT ARISE WHEN DEALING WITH STUDENTS AND PARENTS. 
          AND SO FOR THESE ISSUES I ALWAYS HEAR THE STUDENT OUT,
HEAR THE PARENTS OUT. 
          LET LET THE PARENTS KNOW. HEY, THESE ARE THE GOOD THINGS. 
          HERE'S THE ISSUES. HERE IS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD TO RESOLVING. 
          HERE IS HOW I SUGGESTED. CAN I GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL? WHAT WHAT WHAT WAS YOUR PLAN OR WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT OF COMING IN? WHAT DID YOU WANT OUT OF THIS MEETING? WHAT WAS YOUR WAY OF YOU WERE LOOKING TO HAVE THIS
RESOLVED? AND THEN TRIED TO COME SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. IF THERE'S NOT A COMPLETE AGREEMENT OF ONE
WAY OR THE OTHER, GIVEN THAT THAT SCENARIO. WERE YOU EVER IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU AND YOUR CAPACITY HAD TO MAKE A DIFFICULT PUBLIC OR HIGH STAKES DECISION IN A PUBLIC ENVIRONMENT,
AND WHAT PROCESS TO USE? I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU. OKAY. WELL, I GUESS THESE SITUATIONS WERE NOT PUBLIC THEN. 
          OKAY, PRIVATE. YEAH. SO LIKE THE SITUATION, I JUST I WAS GOING TO I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE
THEM TOO MUCH DETAIL BECAUSE IT INVOLVES PARENTS AND STUDENTS. 
          I'M NOT ASKING FOR NAMES AND ACTIONS FOR IN THE PRIVATE INFORMATION,
BUT BUT WERE YOU EVER FACED WITH THE SITUATION WHERE YOU HAD TO MAKE A DECISION? OKAY. AND AT A DIFFICULT TIME IN A PUBLIC OR HIGH STAKES OR PRIVATE ENVIRONMENT? AND WHAT PROCESS DID YOU FOLLOW IN MAKING THAT DECISION? WHAT DO YOU, MR.. SEAN? THINK BACK. IF THERE WAS ANOTHER,
IF THERE WASN'T ONE, SAY IT. BUT BUT BUT DO YOU HAVE ONE? CAN YOU GIVE US ONE SITUATION THAT FITS THIS BILL? WELL, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE GRADES, CHEATING THINGS OF THAT NATURE,
IF THAT'S IF THAT FITS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. 
          WHERE WE FIRST FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE SCHOOL,
AND GOING TO TALK WITH PARENT, TALK WITH THE STUDENT FIRST, TALK WITH THE PARENT. I LET THEM KNOW WHY I MADE THE DECISION I MADE. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO? YES, YOU ANSWER IT. 
          I'M GOOD. IS THAT YOUR ANSWER? YES, SIR. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. 
          HELLO. WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE GARLAND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION'S MISSION AND
ROLE IN SUPPORTING HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN GARLAND? 
          [00:50:02]
I THINK THAT WOULD GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER OF HOW YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
HOUSING IS AVAILABLE FOR EVERY STAGE OF LIFE. 
          FROM THE START OUT TO WHERE SOMEONE IS JUST BEGINNING,
WHERE SOMEONE IS MOVING FORWARD TO, LIKE I SAID, STEPPING UP, AND THEN ALSO TO WHERE,
LIKE I SAID, SOMEONE IS GETTING READY TO, AS A SENIOR GETTING READY TO MOVE INTO TO SOME TYPE OF RETIREMENT HOME OR ASSISTED LIVING. 
          SO I BELIEVE THIS ASSOCIATION IS HERE FOR BASICALLY MAKING SURE THE RESIDENTS IN CITY OF
GARLAND CAN MEET THOSE NEEDS. AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          THE GARLAND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION MAY FACE EVOLVING HOUSING NEEDS. 
          HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING TO ADDRESS GARLAND'S FUTURE HOUSING
CHALLENGES? LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SURVEYS OF WHERE LAND IS AVAILABLE,
I CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM, WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MOVE TO AND SEEING WHY PEOPLE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM CERTAIN
AREAS AND WHY PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO NEW, CERTAIN AREAS. AND IF YOU SAY WHEN YOU SEE WHY SOMEONE'S LEAVING. 
          TRY TO ADJUST AND FIX THOSE REASONS. MAYBE IT'S THEIRS. 
          THEY FEEL THAT THEIR THAT PART OF TOWN DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER. 
          SO THEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER COLLABORATE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO SEE,
HEY, HOW CAN WE REVITALIZE THIS AREA OF TOWN? ALL RIGHT. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS AREA OF TOWN WHERE EVERYONE WANTS TO BE? HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS AREA OF TOWN JUST AS LIVELY? FANTASTIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU,
MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ARE YOU CONCERNED OF ANY CONFLICT OF YOUR NONPROFIT WITH
THE MISSION OF THE HFC? WELL, ACTUALLY, I BROUGHT THIS ATTENTION TO A FINANCIAL COACH OF MINE A BUSINESS COACH OF
MINE BEFORE AND ASKED WOULD THIS BE SOME TYPE OF CONFLICT? AND HE ASSURED ME THAT THIS NOT TO LOOK AT THIS AS A CONFLICT BECAUSE IT'S A NONPROFIT. 
          LOOK AT IT MORE AS, HEY, THIS IS A COLLABORATION HELPING OUT. 
          THERE WOULDN'T BE A CONFLICT FROM WHAT WE COULD SEE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. YES. I'M LOOKING DOWN TO YOUR RESUME AND GO ALL THE WAY TO THE
BOTTOM. 
          EAGLE SCOUT. TOM. YES, SIR. WHAT WAS YOUR PROJECT? BACK THEN, IT WAS. I HAD TWO PROJECTS AT FIRST. 
          ONE WAS GETTING READY TO RESTOCK THE LAKE IN MY HOMETOWN,
BUT FORTUNATELY, THAT DID NOT GO THROUGH THE LAKE. 
          DIDN'T NEED RESTOCKED. BUT I DID GET TO GO OUT ON THE LAKE. 
          SEEING HOW THEY SHOCKED THE LAKE. SEE HOW MANY FISH WERE THERE AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO THAT WAS A PRETTY FUN. I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. 
          BUT THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS REVITALIZING AN AREA WORKING WITH THE LOCAL HOME DEPOT,
GETTING FLOWERS OUTSIDE. 
          SO AND REVITALIZING A CHURCH. OH. VERY NICE. I ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR YOUR
NONPROFIT, THE MONEY MINDSET MAKEOVER. SO HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN AROUND AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN? I YOU KNOW, YOU FOUNDED THAT ORGANIZATION. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING THAT SO. 
          WORKING AT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY SINCE OH FIVE,
BUT OFFICIALLY IN CAPACITY WITH THE IRS. 
          AND ON PAPER, THAT JUST OFFICIALLY WAS JANUARY OF OH FOUR. 
          OKAY. FOR 20 YEARS YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS. YES,
SIR. 
          AND HELPING PEOPLE GET THE EDUCATION YOU NEED TO GET INTO HOUSING. 
          IS THAT WHAT I'M READING HERE? THAT'S CORRECT SIR. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD ONE. THAT SEEMS TO FIT VERY WELL WITH THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS
POSITION. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS CANDIDATE COUNCIL? THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU ALL. WE'LL CALL UP OUR NEXT CANDIDATE,
MR. WALKER. 
          INTRODUCTION AND WHY YOU WANT TO BE REAPPOINTED TO THE BOARD? YES. THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME. I WANT TO ALSO THANK ALL MY FELLOW PEOPLE THAT ARE ALSO
APPLYING. 
          IT'S EXCITING TO SEE PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT HOUSING BECAUSE IT USED TO BE SUCH A BORING AND
MUNDANE TOPIC, SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. MY NAME IS JENNY WALKER. 
          I'VE BEEN IN GARLAND FOR 13 YEARS. I'VE COME FROM A LITTLE SMALL TOWN IN ARKANSAS,
COUNTRY GIRL, SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF POOR PEOPLE. DISPARITY. 
          JUST A LOT OF ECONOMIC GROWTH NEEDED. SO I GREW UP WANTING TO SEE CHANGE FROM AN EARLY
AGE. 
          ONCE I GOT INTO GARLAND, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYONE. 
          [00:55:01]
I HAVE NO FAMILY HERE, SO I HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. 
          SO I FIGURED THE BEST PLACE FOR ME TO BE IS TO FIGURE OUT THE CHAMBER,
FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT NONPROFITS, DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE WHERE I NEED TO FIT. I JOINED THE THE CMC. 
          I'VE CMC BOARD ALSO WAS ON THERE WITH THEM. MR.. 
          ED MOORE AND I LEARNED ABOUT THE DIVERSITY IN GARLAND. 
          I LEARNED ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT NEEDS OF GARLAND AND ALL THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. 
          I LEARNED ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES AND ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO AND
HAVE AN IMPACT IN GARLAND. 
          I JOINED THE LEADERSHIP GARLAND CLASS OF 35,
THE BEST CLASS. 
          SO IF YOU ALL HAVE A LEADERSHIP GARLAND, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT BECAUSE YOU LEARN THE INS
AND OUTS, YOU LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT, YOU LEARN ABOUT THE POLICE,
THE FIRE. 
          YOU LEARN ABOUT JUST THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED. 
          WHICH ALSO MADE ME BECOME A VOLUNTEER. INTERVIEW. 
          INTERVIEW. BOARD FOR THE FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS. 
          AND I DID THAT FOR LIKE 6 OR 7 YEARS. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR I'M NOT DOING IT BECAUSE IT
JUST TAKES A BEATING TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST CANDIDATES TO BE TO REPRESENT GARLAND AS FIREFIGHTERS. AND BUT I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED IT. 
          IT ALSO HELPS ME UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS AND THE AREAS ON WHICH GETS THE MOST ATTENTION,
AND ALSO HAS THE MOST FIRES. 
          I WANT TO SAY THIS DISCLAIMER TOO, THAT I'M NOT POLITICALLY MOTIVATED,
MEANING THIS POSITION IS NOT PAID. 
          SO I TRULY DO THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE IN GARLAND. 
          I'M NOT DOING IT BECAUSE I WANT TO RUN FOR AN OFFICE,
RUN FOR COUNCIL, AND RUN FOR THE MAYOR. 
          I'M NOT DOING IT BECAUSE YOU ALL BEAT ME IN THE POSITION,
AND I'M NOT DOING IT BECAUSE I PLAN ON TRYING TO BEAT YOU ALL IN THE FUTURE. 
          NO, I TRULY DO IT BECAUSE I TRULY LOVE GARLAND. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S SIX YEARS, SO IT'S A LONG SIX YEARS THAT YOU HAVE TO SEE THESE PEOPLE,
WHICH MAKES ME BRING IT TO THE CONTINUITY APPROACH. 
          YOU HAVE TO REALLY WORK. YOU REALLY HAVE TO LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WORK WITH,
ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID. I'M GONNA SAY THAT AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID TO DO IT. SO, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TOGETHER EVERY NIGHT,
BUT THE TIME THAT WE ARE TOGETHER IS A LOT OF TIMES OVER AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS. 
          WE GO TO CONFERENCES, BRING BACK KNOWLEDGE. SO AND THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE IMPORTANT
DECISIONS FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE CITIZENS HERE. AND THEY'RE DEPENDING ON US. 
          WE DO A LOT OF THINGS BEHIND THE SCENE. WE HAVE AN AWESOME EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IN DAVID
GIBBONS, AND HE MAKES SURE EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH IN ORDER. 
          AND WE BLESS YOU AND IN ALIGNMENT FOR US. AND WITHOUT HIM,
A LOT OF THINGS WOULDN'T RUN ACCURATELY OR RUN AS THEY SHOULD. 
          AND SO YOU HAVE TO GET ALONG, BUT YOU DON'T JUST START. 
          START FROM DAY ONE AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT TO DO. 
          A LOT OF TIMES SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ON THE BOARD THREE AND FOUR AND FIVE,
SOMETIMES TEN YEARS TO BE ABLE TO TRULY UNDERSTAND HOW THIS GARLAND HOUSING FINANCE WORKS. 
          EVERYONE IS RAN DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE EVERY STRUCTURE IS DIFFERENTLY. 
          EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT FUNDS, EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS,
SO EVERYTHING IS RUN DIFFERENTLY. 
          AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE EXPERIENCING A LOT OF JUST JUST A LOT OF THINGS COMING AGAINST US
WITH THE NEW BILLS. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE HOLDING OUR FINGERS,
CROSSING OUR FINGERS, AND HOPING THAT THINGS WILL CHANGE, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN GET BACK TO DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING BY HELPING THE PEOPLE,
GETTING INTO HOUSING, UNDERSTANDING THAT OWNING IS BETTER THAN RENTING. 
          AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO IF YOU ARE GOING TO RENT,
YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE DOING IT AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE. AND ALSO YOU'RE DOING IT WHERE YOU CAN THRIVE TO POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO OWN A HOME ONE DAY. 
          SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE DAY ONE. 
          I WORK IN FINANCE, AS YOU ALL KNOW. THAT'S WHAT MY BREAD AND BUTTER AND WHAT I LOVE TO DO. 
          I HELP PEOPLE MAKE MONEY AND I HELP PEOPLE GROW THEIR MONEY. 
          BUT I ALSO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT WAYS THEY CAN DO THAT. 
          AND ONE WAY IS HAVING THE ASSET OF A HOME THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND SO JUST MAKING SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE INS AND OUTS OF THAT HOME AND UNDERSTAND HOW
YOU CAN SAVE MONEY, WHETHER THAT'S WITH UTILITIES. ALSO BRING PEOPLE TOWARDS THE THE HOME IMPROVEMENT THAT
GARLAND HAS THAT WE ALSO FUND. 
          UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT WORKS, HOW DO YOU FILL OUT THE APPLICATION? WHO ALL APPLIES? A LOT OF TIMES IT'S DISABLED OR VETERANS OR ELDERLY WHO DEFINITELY NEED THE HELP. 
          AND I'M MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT I'M ALWAYS OUT AND ABOUT IN DIFFERENT PLACES
OUTSIDE OF GARLAND, IN GARLAND, AND I'M ALWAYS ADVOCATE FOR GARLAND,
MEANING I WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE. 
          I WANT PEOPLE TO MOVE HERE. I CAME HERE RENTING. 
          I RENTED A LITTLE PLACE OFF DUCK CREEK, AND THEN I BOUGHT MY FIRST HOME. 
          IT WAS 149,000. AT THAT TIME, I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST $1 MILLION BECAUSE IT WAS JUST SO
EXPENSIVE. 
          BUT SEEING THE ORDEAL AND SEEING, I WISH I KNEW ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THAT'S PROVIDED. 
          FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS HELP HELP WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. 
          THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I WISH I KNEW WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO GARLAND. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I'M TEACHING TO PEOPLE WHEN I WHEN I RUN ACROSS PEOPLE. 
          I'M A MILLENNIAL, SO A LOT OF MILLENNIALS ARE BUYING THEIR FIRST HOME. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT I CAN RELATE TO AS WELL AS THE ELDERLY. 
          SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE EPP CAMP? 
          [01:00:04]
MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. HI. HOW WOULD YOU ENSURE GARLAND'S HOUSING NEEDS ARE REPRESENTED BY
ENSURING FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND NOT CONCENTRATED IN ONE AREA? YES. THOROUGHLY. LIKE EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING? PRETTY MUCH OVER THE EIGHT DISTRICTS. BUT WE ALL KNOW SOME DISTRICTS DON'T NEED AS MUCH. 
          THEY JUST. THEY JUST DON'T. THEY HAVE A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT. THEY HAVE A LOT OF MORE,
JUST PRETTY MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE HOMES. 
          I LIVE IN SOUTH GARLAND. WE NEED A LOT OF THINGS. 
          AND SO I KNOW IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS YOU JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE OLDER,
THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH DEVELOPMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO OUR CONCENTRATION OR THE NEEDS FROM THE, FROM THE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE COMING FROM
THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS. 
          DISTRICT TWO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ONES THAT I KNOW GOING TO NEED. 
          SO EVERYONE HAS THE ABILITY TO APPLY EQUALLY. 
          BUT PEOPLE ALSO KNOW, LIKE WHEN I HELP PEOPLE FILL OUT THE APPLICATIONS,
THERE'S THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THIRD YOUR AGE, YOUR HOUSE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN AGE. IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN VALUE WITH THE CARD,
YOU HAVE TO EITHER QUALIFY BASED ON CERTAIN HOMESTEADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO IF YOU'RE NOT PRETTY MUCH IN THAT CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO QUALIFY. 
          SO THE PEOPLE KNOW IF THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR IT. 
          BUT MY BIGGEST THING IS ALSO MAKING SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN QUALIFY. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. AND IF THEY DON'T GET IT THE FIRST ROUND,
THEN WHENEVER IT STARTS BACK UP, BECAUSE WE DO RUN OUT OF FUNDING THAT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHEN IT STARTS BACK UP TO BE
ABLE TO APPLY AGAIN. 
          SO THERE WERE A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN DISTRICT TWO,
AND THAT'S MOSTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN ALLUDING TO THIS WHOLE TIME. 
          AND I'M I'M CURIOUS HOW YOUR OUTREACH MIGHT CHANGE IN THE FUTURE TO KIND OF ENVELOP MORE
OF THOSE THREE, SIX, FIVE. YOU KNOW, ALL OF US REALLY HAVE DISTRICTS THAT IN,
IN SOME SMALL PART HAVE, HAVE NEED. 
          SO HOW HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU SEE OUTREACH GOING MOVING FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE
DISTRICTS KIND OF HAVE AN EQUAL FOOTING IN THAT AREA. I WOULD SAY THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER EFFORT OF BEING AT THE TOWN HALLS. 
          SO SMALL TOWN HALL MEETINGS, AND I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU HAVE QUITE A LARGE CROWD. 
          AND SO JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY CAN APPLY WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO APPLY. 
          AND ALSO YOU ALL BRINGING US SPECIFIC THINGS. 
          SO I KNOW YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CITIZENS IN YOUR DISTRICT COME TO YOU WITH ISSUES,
COME TO YOU WITH BURNED DOWN HOUSES, HOUSES WITH ASBESTOS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND YOU COME TO US WITH THOSE ADDRESSES. 
          THEN THAT WAY WE CAN GO OUT AND CHECK THEM OUT AND SEE DO THEY MEET OUR CRITERIA? WE DO A LOT OF DEVELOP. WE DO A LOT OF PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM. 
          THE HOUSING PART THAT YOU ALL HAVE WITH THE CITY. 
          AND SO WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT, IF IT QUALIFIES,
THEN THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROCEED ON. 
          SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW OPPORTUNITY. BUT SOMETIMES WHEN IT'S JUST DAVID DRIVING
AROUND, HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND ALL THE PLACES BECAUSE GARLAND IS KIND OF BIG. 
          SO WE RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE TO GIVE US SUGGESTIONS AS WELL. 
          RIGHT. MY NEXT TOWN HALL IS NOVEMBER 6TH. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BASS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TODAY. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME, WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITIES OF A GFK
BOARD MEMBER? I WOULD HAVE TO SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND. 
          YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE'S NEEDS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. 
          A LOT OF THE A LOT OF TIMES, THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO US AND ARE IN NEED AREN'T
RICH. 
          THEY DIDN'T COME FROM MONEY. THEY MAY DIDN'T COME FROM THE FINANCIAL EDUCATION. 
          AND THEY'RE NOT ALSO POURING THIS INTO THEIR CHILDREN ALSO. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A SERVANT HEART TO BE ABLE TO HAVE COMPASSION AND
UNDERSTAND HOW YOU TRULY CAN HELP THESE PEOPLE. 
          AND ALSO JUST BE ABLE TO BRING IDEAS, BRING IDEAS TO THE BOARD. 
          YOU CAN'T JUST BE IN A MEETING AND JUST NEVER CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE BOARD,
ESPECIALLY IN TIMES LIKE THIS WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH THE BILLS AND WE'RE DEALING WITH THE BILLS, THAT'S LIMITED US FROM WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO,
WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO. THEN WHAT ARE YOUR OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR US TO CONTINUE TO MAKE GARLAND THRIVE? WHAT CAN THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IN HOUSING TO MAKE
GARLAND THRIVE, EVEN IF IT'S NOT TAKING CERTAIN THINGS OFF THE TAX ROLLS,
WHICH I KNOW YOU ALL DON'T LIKE. 
          BUT IF IT'S NOT THAT, THEN WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? AND I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. 
          OKAY. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY WHAT DO YOU SEE? WHAT KIND OF CHANGES OR EVOLUTION DO YOU SEE
FOR HFC IN THE FUTURE? A LOT OF THAT IS UP IN THE AIR. I MEAN, AS FAR AS OUR BOARD IN GENERAL WE HAVE AGING,
WE HAVE AGING BOARD MEMBERS. 
          AND SO I KNOW THE NEXT YEAR OR 2 OR 3, I KNOW THE NEXT,
YOU KNOW, 2 OR 3 YEARS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT THEY CAN'T BE ON THE BOARD FOREVER. YOU KNOW,
WE KNOW THAT. 
          SO UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMIC THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET NEW PEOPLE,
YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT GOVERNMENT COMES IN AND THEY CAN CHANGE. 
          SO WE CAN'T ALWAYS LOOK AT THAT AS A NEGATIVE. 
          [01:05:02]
KIND OF LIKE YOU ALL. YOU ALL HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS,
NEW MAYOR AND THINGS COME IN. 
          SO WE STILL ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE SAME GOAL. 
          THE SAME GOAL IS TO HELP GARLAND CITIZENS ALSO HELP GARLAND CITIZENS WITH AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, HELP GARLAND AND CITIZENS THRIVE. GET THERE,
GET THEIR HOMES, GET THEIR HOMES, BUILD OR GET THEIR HOMES FIXED. 
          AND SO OUR OUR GOAL WILL REMAIN THE SAME NO MATTER WHO IS ON THERE,
BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THERE'S CONTINUITY ACROSS THE BOARD AND MAKING SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE MISSION AND IS WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME MISSION. 
          AWESOME. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. TO VOTE ON YOU. 
          BUT I HEARD MOST OF YOU, MOST OF ANY OF YOU I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION THAT I
ASKED SEAN. 
          JUST DESCRIBE IT A TIME THAT YOU HAD TO MAKE A DIFFICULT DECISION IN PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STAKES. AND. IN OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND WHAT WAS THE PROCESS THAT YOU USE TO REACH YOUR CONCLUSION? WHAT? I'M NOT ASKING YOU WHAT THE CONCLUSION WAS. 
          I'M ASKING YOU ABOUT A DIFFICULT SITUATION THAT YOU FACED AND IN PUBLIC OR PRIVATE
ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND WHAT PROCESS DID YOU FOLLOW TO REACH YOUR CONCLUSION,
WHATEVER THAT WAS. 
          I'M ASKING YOU FOR A CONCLUSION. I WOULD HAVE TO SAY GETTING RID OF A TENANT GETTING RID
OF A TENANT IS NORMALLY A CAN BE A VERY SMALL THING THAT YOU CAN DO. BUT IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE COURT SYSTEM,
IF YOU HAVE TO GET A LAWYER, IF YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THIS, THEN THAT MAKES IT PUBLIC AND THAT MAKES IT THAT MAKES IT A
PUBLIC THING THAT YOU SOMETIME DON'T WANT IT TO BE PUBLIC. 
          THE TENANT WAS UNRULY. LATE ALL THE TIME. CAUSED A DISTURBANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS. 
          BUT THEN HE ALWAYS EVENTUALLY PAID RENT. SO AS A LANDLORD,
YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, IF YOU'RE PAYING RENT, THEN THAT'S HALF MY BATTLE. BUT YOU ALSO WANT LESS STRESS. 
          YOU ALSO DON'T WANT ISSUES WITH THIS PARTICULAR SAD TENANT. 
          AND SO I MADE THE DECISION TO CONTINUE TO TO GO WITH THE EVICTION WHICH THEN DRAGGED OUT
BECAUSE OF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO FIGHT THE EVICTION BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO LEAVE. 
          AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO FIGHT ME BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I'M GETTING RID OF
YOU AND THIS AND THAT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, THAT GOES INTO OTHER ELEMENTS DESTROYING THE PROPERTY. 
          GOING TWO MONTHS WITHOUT RENT. AND SO I EVENTUALLY FIGURED OUT THE PROBLEM. 
          OF COURSE, IT COST YOU THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. WHY ARE YOU DOING SO? BUT JUST I MEAN, SOMETIMES DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE WHETHER YOU WANT THEM TO BE MADE. 
          MONEY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SPENT, BUT YOU HAVE TO SPEND TIME,
SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY. 
          AND SO TO ME, THAT WAS A VERY PUBLIC DECISION THAT I HAD TO MAKE WITH SOMEONE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. SIR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU. RECOGNIZING THAT GARLAND PRESENTLY IS FACING A VERY LANDLOCKED HOUSING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING TO ADDRESS
GARLAND'S FUTURE HOUSING CHALLENGES? IN OTHER WORDS, WE RECOGNIZE THAT. GROWTH IS TAKING PLACE. 
          POPULATION GROWTH IS TAKING PLACE. WE RECOGNIZE A LOT OF THAT GROWTH IS GOING TO COME
HERE. 
          RECOGNIZING ALSO THAT WE ARE LANDLOCKED. WHAT APPROACH WOULD YOU TAKE STRATEGIC PLANNING
TO ADDRESS GARLAND'S FUTURE HOUSING CHALLENGES? I WOULD SAY I WOULD GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID HERE. 
          MARK, TO ME, MARKETING IS ALWAYS THE BEST. SO FIGURING OUT GOING INTO TOWN HALLS,
LETTING THESE PARTICULAR CITIZENS KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE AND WHAT WE DO AND HOW THEY CAN USE OUR SERVICES. CONTINUE TO RELY ON YOU ALL TO SEE ABOUT OPEN,
VACANT LOTS. 
          LOTS. AND THAT COULD BE I MEAN, I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE TORE DOWN PARTICULAR HOUSES THAT
THAT LOOK DECENT, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE THEM LOOK BETTER. AND SO THAT CAN BE JUST EMPTY VACANT LOT. 
          SO THAT COULD BE PLACES THAT YOU FEEL LIKE DRUGS OR OR INFESTED WITH BUGS OR THINGS LIKE
THAT. 
          THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE RELY ON YOU ALL TO BRING US THOSE PARTICULAR SUGGESTIONS. 
          BUT, I MEAN, OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S WE'RE KIND OF TIED ON A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO AT
THE MOMENT, LIKE BIG, BIG PROJECTS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT PROJECTS THAT
WE HAVE, CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT RENTERS ARE HAPPY. 
          MAKE SURE RENTERS ARE LIVING IN GOOD CONDITION. 
          MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY AND GROUNDS ON THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS ARE CONTINUED UP TO HIGH
SATISFACTION. 
          ANY UPGRADES THAT ARE NEEDED, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THOSE IN THE MEANTIME. 
          SO THOSE ARE NOT EYESORES, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS TO BRING NEW PROJECTS
UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON OVER THE NEXT YEAR. 
          [01:10:10]
THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'LL CALL OUR NEXT APPLICANT, MISS FELICIA JACKSON. 
          ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US WHY YOU WANT TO BE ON THE
BOARD. 
          HELLO. MY NAME. CAN YOU HEAR ME A LITTLE CLOSER? THERE YOU GO. YES. BETTER. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. 
          I'M FELICIA JACKSON, AND I HAVE LIVED IN GARLAND FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS,
SO I'M A NEW RESIDENT. 
          I HONESTLY, THIS IS A BIT MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT I WAS ANTICIPATING. 
          I WENT ONLINE, I LIKE TO DO VOLUNTEER WORK, AND I WENT ONLINE AND I SAW THIS AND I CLICKED
AND SAID, HEY, THAT LOOKS LIKE I COULD BE OF SOME BENEFIT TO THE NEW CITY THAT I'VE MOVED INTO. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU AND I CAN JUST I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST,
WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO GARLAND, I CAME HERE FROM I'M ORIGINALLY FROM FORT WORTH,
BUT I CAME TO THE DALLAS SIDE OF TOWN AND I STARTED IN FRISCO AND THEN WENT TO PLANO AND THEN WAS IN CARROLLTON, AND THEN MY HUSBAND AND I MET AND WE BOUGHT A HOUSE IN GARLAND. 
          AND FURTHER SOUTH I COME THE WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS IN FRISCO FIRST. 
          SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BOUGIE. BUT IT'S I SEE ONLINE THAT GARLAND IS PARTNERING WITH A LOT
OF PLANO STUFF AND TRYING TO, I GUESS, HAVE THE CITIES BE SISTER CITIES IN A WAY. 
          AND THERE IS SO MUCH THAT WE AND GARLAND CAN DO. 
          AND I'M SPEAKING HERE AS A VOLUNTEER RESIDENT,
BECAUSE THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE ME HERE ARE MORE, I GUESS, QUALIFIED ALONG THE LINES OF ON THE BUSINESS SIDE. 
          BUT I VOLUNTEERED TO COME OVER AS A RESIDENT BECAUSE I'M SPEAKING FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE
OF WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE CITY OF GARLAND AND WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED COMING HERE. 
          I CAME FROM AREAS THAT WERE OLDER BUT HAD BEEN A LITTLE MORE RENOVATED AND UP KEPT. 
          ALSO, WHEN WE MOVED HERE, WE BOUGHT A HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1975. 
          IT'S IN DISTRICT SEVEN. NEEDED A PRETTY MUCH WHOLE NEW RENOVATION. 
          WE DID A LOT. THE CITY OF GARLAND PAID FOR HALF OF MY WINDOWS ON MY HOUSE BECAUSE I TOOK
ADVANTAGE OF THE HOMEOWNER INCENTIVE PROGRAM. 
          AND SO. THANK YOU, GARLAND. AND WE, OUR VOLUNTEERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD,
BASICALLY, WE GO DOOR TO DOOR AND WE DO PEOPLE'S YARDS AND WE FIX PEOPLE'S FENCES AND WE SEE ALL THE STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE
DONE. 
          AND WHEN WE FIRST MOVED OUT HERE, WE WOULD BE WALKING OUR DOG AND WE WOULD SEE HOMES IN
DISREPAIR, LAWNS NOT BEING KEPT. AND WE WOULD THINK AND WE WOULD JUST,
YOU KNOW, TALK TRASH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THESE PEOPLE AREN'T DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. BUT THEN WE DECIDED INSTEAD OF TALKING TRASH,
LET'S LET'S HELP FIX THE PROBLEM. 
          AND SO I EMAILED GARLAND ABOUT VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES ON THE CODE COMPLIANCE THING. 
          AND I RECEIVED A FEW RESPONSES ON THAT SAYING,
HEY, GIVE US SOME, SOME, SOME IDEAS. 
          BUT PART OF ME ALSO DOESN'T WANT TO RAT OUT MY NEIGHBORS AND SAY,
HEY, I WANT TO HELP YOU, BUT I FEEL LIKE GARLAND KNOW THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE FALLING BEHIND ON SOME STUFF BEFORE
I HELP YOU. 
          SO I, MY HUSBAND AND I DECIDED THAT INSTEAD OF NECESSARILY DO IT GOING THAT ROUTE,
WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS POINT, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE PAST FEW WEEKS AT A SLOW RATE BECAUSE IT'S AUGUST,
BUT THE PAST FEW WEEKENDS WE'VE BEEN VERY BUSY EDGING PEOPLE'S YARDS, FIXING FENCES. I WASHED MY NEIGHBOR'S FENCE YESTERDAY,
JUST THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE EVERY LITTLE THING COUNTS. 
          THE WOMAN I HELPED HER YESTERDAY, SHE CRIED WHEN I RANG HER DOORBELL AND SAID,
HEY, I LIVED DOWN THE ROAD FROM YOU. 
          CAN I HELP YOU? IT LOOKS I KNOW SHE LIVES ALONE BECAUSE I'M AN INTERNET SLEUTH,
APPARENTLY, AND I CAN GOOGLE THOSE PLACES, BUT I CAN FIND OUT. 
          OKAY. SHE'S DIVORCED AND THEN THE WOMAN DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE HELPED RECENTLY AS WELL. 
          HER HUSBAND PASSED AWAY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. 
          AND SO THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRULY IN NEED. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO VOLUNTEER MY SERVICES TO GARLAND,
BECAUSE I I'M A PERSON OF ACTION. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SIT AROUND AND JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE. I WANT TO FIGURE OUT
A WAY TO GET IT DONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING. HE MOVED HERE FROM WELL, I WAS IN CARROLLTON,
BUT PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS IN THE PLANO FRISCO AREA. 
          AND YOU'VE BEEN IN GARLAND. HOW LONG? TWO AND A HALF YEARS. 
          OKAY, NOT VERY LONG. ALL RIGHT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE. 
          I WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER. I THINK I HAVE THE ENERGY AND THE BACKGROUND. 
          I'VE BEEN IN THE MORTGAGE INDUSTRY FOR 17 YEARS. 
          WE WON'T TALK. WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT. YEAH. 
          OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. YES. BOARD SERVICE CAN BE TIME INTENSIVE AND COMPLEX. 
          [01:15:09]
AND THIS NOTWITHSTANDING WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED,
DO YOU HAVE THE TIME AND THE CAPACITY TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN. MEETINGS, COMMITTEE WORK AND PREPARATION? I BELIEVE I DO. I THINK I COULD MAKE THAT A PRIORITY BECAUSE IT GOES ALONG
WITH THE VOLUNTEERING AND CLEANING UP YARDS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT WOULD BE AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF HELPING MY NEIGHBORS SO I COULD MAKE A PRIORITY. 
          TIME FOR IT. OKAY. IN MY SECOND AND LAST QUESTION IS DESCRIBED TO ME A SITUATION THAT YOU
HAVE BEEN IN WHEREVER YOU WERE A THAT YOU WERE IN A DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT AND HAD TO MAKE A
DIFFICULT DECISION IN A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTOR. WHAT WAS THE DECISION WITHOUT GIVING AWAY ANY
SECRETS? WHAT WAS THE DECISION AND WHAT PROCESS DID YOU USE TO MAKE THAT DECISION? IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I WAS AT WORK AND MY BOSS AT THE TIME WAS NO LONGER WITH THE
COMPANY, WAS NOT A NICE PERSON, AND SHE MADE IT VERY MADE IT VERY OBVIOUS THAT SHE DIDN'T
APPRECIATE ME AS HER COWORKER. 
          AND SHE CALLED ME OUT IN A MEETING AND ATTEMPTED TO HUMILIATE ME. 
          AND WHEN SHE DID. I JUST TOOK IT IN AND I SAT BACK AND AFTER THE MEETING,
I APPROACHED HER AND SAID, YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE AN ISSUE. 
          CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS? INSTEAD OF ME RETURNING HER CANTOR AND CALLING HER OUT IN THE
MEETING AS WELL. 
          I JUST TOOK IT IN AND I THOUGHT, I'LL BE THE BIGGER PERSON. 
          AND THEN WE CONTINUED TO HAVE ISSUES FOR THE REMAINDER OF HER TIME WITH THE COMPANY BEFORE
THEY LET HER GO. 
          AND ON HER SIDE, HER ISSUE WAS SHE JUST DIDN'T LIKE ME. 
          ON MY SIDE, I DECIDED THAT I DIDN'T REALLY CARE MUCH FOR HER EITHER,
BUT I WAS GOING TO KILL HER WITH KINDNESS. 
          OKAY? AND SO EVERY MORNING. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? AND I JUST MADE IT. OKAY. WE ARE PROFESSIONALS,
AND I'M GOING TO BE NICE TO YOU. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO ACT AS IF I'M IN HIGH SCHOOL AND SNUB YOU WHEN I PASS YOU IN THE HALLWAY. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO. AND THE RESULT, THE ENDING. 
          AND THE RESULT IS SHE GOT FIRED A FEW MONTHS LATER AND SHE STILL DIDN'T REALLY CARE FOR
ME, BUT OKAY. BUT SHE GOT TO A POINT WHERE SHE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY,
YOU KNOW, SCOWL AT ME WHEN SHE PASSED ME IN THE HALLWAY. 
          HEY. RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER BASS. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FELICIA. APPRECIATE HOW QUICKLY YOU'VE GOTTEN INVOLVED IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD,
ESPECIALLY ONLY BEING HERE A FEW YEARS. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TODAY. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME, HAVE YOU SERVED ON ANY BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS BEFORE IN ANY PUBLIC
CAPACITY? AND IF SO, WHAT ROLE DID YOU PLAY? I HAVE NOT. 
          THIS IS ALL VERY NEW TO ME. I SAID IT'S INTIMIDATING COMING IN. 
          WELL, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE DOING WONDERFUL. 
          AND AND THE FIRST, THE FIRST STEP IS TO, YOU KNOW,
MAKE THAT EFFORT TO GET INVOLVED. 
          SO THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE ALL THE WAY. EXACTLY,
EXACTLY. 
          THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STEP ON YOUR ON YOUR LADDER OF YOUR JOURNEY,
RIGHT? AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          LOOK, I SO I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION. HOW WOULD YOU SUPPORT GARLAND'S HOUSING NEEDS
AND ENSURE FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND NOT CONCENTRATED IN ONE AREA? WELL, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. I WAS ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT AND THINKING IN MY HEAD
AS A NEW RESIDENT OF GARLAND, BEING HERE TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS, ALMOST I CAN TELL. 
          AND I PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT'S COMING BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING
TO BE CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. 
          WHAT KIND OF RENOVATION IS GARLAND GOING TO DO IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD? AND I'VE EXPLORED OUTWARDS. AND THERE'S AN OBVIOUS DIFFERENCE IN NORTH GARLAND COMPARED TO
SOUTH GARLAND. 
          LIKE, OBVIOUS. OBVIOUS. MY HUSBAND AND I WENT TO A CHINESE BUFFET IN SOUTH GARLAND
RECENTLY, AND IT WAS A WHOLE NOTHER WORLD COMPARED TO THE GEORGE BUSH AREA. 
          I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GARLAND FOCUS MORE ON NOT SO MUCH FAR NORTH OR FAR SOUTH,
BUT THE REST OF GARLAND IN THE MIDDLE. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW I COULD GET THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO THAT. 
          OTHER THAN JUST SAYING, HEY NEIGHBORS, LET'S SPEAK UP,
LET'S GO TALK TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS, BUT CAN YOU ALSO DO THIS PART RIGHT HERE AND GET IT A
LITTLE MORE SPREAD OUT OVER THE CITY, 
          [01:20:07]
AS OPPOSED TO JUST BEING CENTRALIZED AND LOW INCOME AREAS,
OR ON THE HIGHER END WHERE MY HOUSE IS $600,000 UP. 
          IT WOULD BE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HELP THE AVERAGE MAN. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS FELICIA. 
          HELLO. I'M GLAD YOU CAME TO DISTRICT SEVEN. YOU'RE NOT WITH THE MAYOR IN THE SLUMS OF OAK
RIDGE, THOUGH, ARE YOU? OH, YEAH. OH, GOOD. WHAT? CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD YOU ARE IN? IN DISTRICT SEVEN? IT'S CALLED VILLAGE MEADOWS. 
          MEADOWS? WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A SIGN OR ANYTHING. IT'S RIGHT BY SAM HOUSTON AND BELTLINE
BY THE FIRE STATION AND ALL THAT. 
          RIGHT THERE. RIGHT IN THERE. OKAY. SECTION RIGHT THERE. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE'RE THE HOLFORD REC CENTER,
WHICH IS BUILT RIGHT AROUND THAT. 
          YEAH. HOW NICE TO BE CLOSE TO THAT NEW FACILITY THE WALKING DISTANCE IS PRETTY NICE. 
          THAT'S REALLY GOOD. YEAH. SO QUITE AN EXPERIENCE IN THE MORTGAGE INDUSTRY AND KIND OF
HELPING PEOPLE GET LOANS IN THAT KIND OF. 
          CAN YOU GIVE US SOME MORE DETAIL ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND THERE? THAT HOW YOU'VE HELPED PEOPLE GET LOANS THAT MAYBE WOULD STRUGGLE TO QUALIFY? I HAVEN'T BEEN SO MUCH ON THE ORIGINATION SIDE OF THINGS. 
          ACTUALLY, QUITE THE OPPOSITE IS HOW I GOT INTO THE INDUSTRY. 
          I ENTERED THE INDUSTRY DURING THE MARKET CRASH IN THE EARLY 2000,
MID 2000. 
          WHATEVER. AND SO I ACTUALLY WORKED ON THE FORECLOSURE SIDE AND I TOOK PEOPLE'S HOUSES. 
          I TRAVELED THE COUNTRY AND TESTIFIED IN COURT ON BEHALF OF THE BANK,
WHICH I'M DOING THIS NOW BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO BALANCE OUT THE KARMA THAT I PUT OUT IN THE WORLD. BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT LOW INCOME PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE ASSISTANCE THEY NEED. BUT AGAIN, IT'S HELPED THE AVERAGE MAN AS WELL. 
          IT'S NOT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HELP THOSE IN NEED. 
          BUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THEIR FINANCES ARE CAUSING
THEM TO STRUGGLE. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL I CAN SAY IS IF YOU DON'T GET THIS ONE,
STAY IN TOUCH. 
          I'M GOING TO HAVE A SPOT FOR YOU. I LOVE YOUR ATTITUDE. 
          YEAH, OKAY. WILL DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'LL CALL OUR FINAL CANDIDATE, MR. DAMON WILSON. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND FELLOW CANDIDATES AND GUESTS. 
          I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE SO MANY CANDIDATES INVOLVED IN GETTING INVOLVED IN THE CITY OF
GARLAND. 
          SO, HELLO, I'M DAMON WILSON. TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHY YOU WANT TO BE ON
THIS BOARD, SIR. OKAY, SO I'VE LIVED IN GARLAND. I'VE MOVED TO TEXAS 13 YEARS AGO. 
          I'VE BEEN THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT MY LIFE. I'VE BEEN VERY CIVICALLY AND ENGAGED,
CIVICALLY ENGAGED THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES I'VE LIVED. 
          GROWING UP IN GEORGIA, THE DIFFERENT STATES IN VARIOUS PLACES I'VE LIVED,
WHETHER IT BE WORKING ON POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES, CHURCH. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN EMBEDDED IN ME,
SERVICE RELATED HEART. 
          SO VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT. SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BOARD POSITION. 
          I I APPLIED FOR IT BECAUSE I ACTUALLY TO BE FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY. 
          I'M ALSO ON THE TIFF BOARD OF NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS KIND OF JUST KIND OF STARTED BACK,
RESUMED AGAIN. 
          I ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING ON THIS, MY SECOND MEETING ACTUALLY THIS IN TWO DAYS. 
          SO I'M STILL ACTUALLY GETTING TO KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 
          SO THE REASON I APPLIED FOR THIS POSITION IS BECAUSE I HAVE OVER 30 YEARS IN FINANCE AND
IN THE CORPORATE ENVIRONMENT. 
          NOT NOT FROM A PUBLIC SECTOR PERSPECTIVE, BUT FOR FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES. 
          ALSO, CURRENTLY I WORK FOR A $25 BILLION, A PRIVATE FIRM,
THE LARGEST WINE AND SPIRITS DISTRIBUTOR IN THE COUNTRY. 
          SO I HAVE A STRONG FINANCE BACKGROUND, ACCOUNTING BACKGROUND,
AND I KNOW SINCE THIS IS RELATED TO FINANCE AND HOUSING IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE ALL, WHETHER IT BE WHETHER YOU'RE RENTING OR OWNING A HOME,
IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED IN OUR LIVES OR WHATEVER. 
          AND I KNOW BECAUSE I STAY ON TOP OF NOT ONLY THE NATIONAL NEWS,
BUT ALSO LOCALLY, I KNOW THAT THERE IS SUCH A HUGE ISSUE AROUND HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. IN FACT, I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF DALLAS AREA INTERFAITH,
WHICH I'M PART OF WITH MY CHURCH IN RICHARDSON, WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY ON A TASK FORCE. I ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING THIS SATURDAY WHERE
HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IN DALLAS COUNTY IS ONE OF OUR MAIN TOPICS, 
          [01:25:04]
ALONG WITH ALSO EARLY EDUCATION, CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING TO TRY TO PROACTIVELY DO SOME THINGS LOCALLY TO HELP THE LIVES OF BETTER
HELP, BETTER THE LIVES OF PEOPLE. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
I SAW THE TO TO SOME. 
          TO SUM IT UP. I THINK I COULD UTILIZE MY BACKGROUND FROM A PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVE. 
          MY PASSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CIVICALLY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGED AND ALSO HELPING TO FEEL THE
NEED OF SOMETHING THAT'S SO CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE AROUND HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. AND BECAUSE OF MY FINANCIAL ACUMEN,
I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS. 
          I KNOW THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT POTENTIAL HOMEOWNERS NEED TO MEET IN ORDER TO GET
THESE CERTAIN DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. 
          THERE'S ALSO SOME CREDITS INVOLVED. AND I ALSO ALSO LIKE THE MISSION AROUND HOUSING
VITALITY, WHICH MY HOUSING. I'M ACTUALLY A BOARD MEMBER ON MY HOUSE AND MY SUBDIVISION AS WELL. 
          I ALSO LIKE THE BEAUTIFICATION OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL,
THE HOUSING FATALITY PROGRAM THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN PLACE AS WELL, I THINK IS VERY CRITICAL FOR THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AND BEAUTIFICATION OF THE WHOLE CITY. SO I JUST THINK WITH ALL
OF MY ASSETS THAT I HAVE, MY PASSION, I CAN DEFINITELY AND ALSO TO LEVERAGE ALL MY MY RESOURCES,
LEVERAGE MY INTEREST, AND EVEN NOT ONLY FROM WHAT I HAVE IN THE PAST,
BUT AS I CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF TIFF, AS I COULDN'T BE PART OF THE I, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I COULD UTILIZE SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES AS WELL TO LEVERAGE,
YOU KNOW, DON'T I ALSO BELIEVE AND DON'T DO DON'T REDO SOMETHING IF IT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE. SO THERE'S A WAYS WE CAN LEVERAGE SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY'RE DOING,
GET FUNDING FROM THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING WITH LEGISLATION, ETC.. 
          YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN MIRROR SOME OF THOSE THINGS TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS EVEN MORE
SUCCESSFUL, THAT'S IDEALLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AND BE ABLE TO ADD IN THE FUTURE IF I'M,
IF I'M ELECTED TO BE ON THIS BOARD. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SIR. IS THERE ANY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT START THIS TIME,
COUNCILMEMBER BASS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DAMON, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE TODAY. 
          AND I NOTICED YOU NOTICE THAT YOU ARE ON ALREADY ON SERVING ON TIFF TWO. 
          SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT WHAT ROLE HAVE YOU PLAYED ON THE TIFF AND WHAT CONTRIBUTIONS
HAVE YOU MADE A LOT YET? THIS PARTICULAR TIFF WAS ACTUALLY BECAUSE OF THE DOWN,
BECAUSE OF COVID, WHATEVER. 
          BECAUSE OF THE, THE THEY DIDN'T GET THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HE ANTICIPATED. 
          IT KIND OF FELL OFF. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING IT,
REEVALUATING TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS. 
          BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S RESPECT TO ASPIRE. BUT IN THIS YEAR AND BUT WE COULD
POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE CHANGE THE AREA THAT IT SERVED FOR SERVICES. 
          WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT SEEING IF WE CAN GET IT EXPANDED. 
          SO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE YET TO BE DETERMINED. 
          I KNOW MY SECOND MEETING IS GOING TO BE IN TWO DAYS. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE I'M DOING I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH UNDERSTANDING THE
DIFFERENT AREAS OF WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, WE BENEFIT IN THE NUMBER TWO, WHERE WE HAD PRIMARILY LIKE THE THE BASS PRO AREA, WHERE WE JUST DID NOT GET THE AMOUNT OF TEST,
WE DID NOT GET THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE ANTICIPATED. 
          SO I'M DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO UNDERSTANDING MORE AND REVIEWING MORE AND SEEING
WHAT'S THE BEST POSSIBLE DECISION GOING FORWARD. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I ALSO WANTED TO IF THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT LONG TERM. 
          THAT'S WHY I ALSO WANTED TO PUT MY, YOU KNOW,
PUT MY NAME IN THE HAT FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. BUT IF I IF THAT DOES CONTINUE, I WILL CONTINUE TO BE A STRONG MEMBER ON THAT AGAIN,
I'M STILL LEARNING A LOT MORE ABOUT THAT AND CONTRIBUTE A LOT. 
          YET I'VE ONLY BEEN ONE MEETING, BUT I DEFINITELY WILL BE A VERY VOCAL AND I BELIEVE IN I'M
BIG INTO ANALYTICS, SO I'M BIG INTO LOOKING AT DEMOGRAPHICS. WHAT THINGS MAKE SENSE. 
          SO I CERTAINLY WILL HAVE A LOT TO SAY ONCE I'M GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SO. 
          OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND CAN YOU TELL ME ALONG THOSE SAME LINES ABOUT HOW YOU
COLLABORATE WITH OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND WITH THE CITY STAFF? CERTAINLY. SO AGAIN, NOT A LOT THERE WITH THEM,
BUT I HAVE THROUGHOUT MY CAREER, NOT NECESSARILY FROM THE CITY OF GARLAND, BUT THROUGHOUT MY CAREER, I'VE BEEN IF YOU LOOK AT MY BACKGROUND,
I'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN MY FRATERNITY CHURCH IN DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP POSITIONS. 
          FROM A COLLABORATION STANDPOINT, I GO IN WITH THE MINDSET OF RESPECT FIRST. 
          I'M ALSO GOING THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO,
I'M ALSO I'M OPEN TO DIALOG AND BUT I'M ALSO VERY, VERY I'M VERY FOCUSED ON HAVING AGENDA, HAVING A PLAN OF ACTION. 
          AND LET'S FOCUS ON THAT. LET'S GET SICK TO THE POINT AND THEN LET'S GET SOME THINGS
ACCOMPLISHED. 
          I KNOW THAT I'M I'M ALSO A REALIST. I DON'T GO IN THERE THINKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO
CHANGE THE WORLD AND, YOU KNOW, IN A WEEK. SO I TRY TO GO WITH A VERY CONSISTENT APPROACH. 
          TRANSPARENCY IS ALL THE MOST IMPORTANT. I MEAN,
AGAIN, IN BEING IN ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE, YOU KNOW, BUDGETING, PLANNING, MONTHLY REVIEWS,
ETC., I GOT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE NUMBERS LOOK GOOD, RIGHT? SO TRANSPARENCY, MAKING SURE WE HAVE A FOLLOW A PROCESS,
BUT ALSO VERY OPEN TO HEARING OTHER PEOPLE'S VIEWPOINTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS. BECAUSE EVEN WITHIN THE CITY OF GARLAND CURRENT
DEPARTMENTS, YOU COULD PROBABLY PROBABLY UTILIZE AND LEVERAGE SOME OF THE. 
          FOR THIS PARTICULAR BOARD, YOU CAN PROBABLY UTILIZE,
LIKE I SAID, NOT JUST TIP NUMBER TWO, BUT OTHER TIF DISTRICTS TO HELP WITH THIS, 
          [01:30:06]
THIS BOARD AS WELL. YOU COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT OTHER AREAS IN IN THE GARLAND,
LIKE I KNOW A LOT OF WORDS BEING TALKED ABOUT MARKETING AND ADVERTISING. THEY'RE GETTING THE WORD ABOUT ABOUT THIS. BUT LEVERAGING THE LEVERAGING THE ASSETS YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          SO I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN PARTNER AND COLLABORATE. 
          EVEN IN MY DAILY JOB WITH MY CHURCH ACTIVITIES,
COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES HELD EVEN IN MY OWN HOUSE. 
          SO SO IT'S ABOUT COLLABORATING, PARTNERING, RESPECTING PEOPLE. 
          BUT SOMETIMES YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU GENTLEMEN ABOUT WHO APPOINTED YOU,
AND I WON'T I WON'T TOUCH THAT. 
          BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD ONE. LET ME ASK YOU,
WITH ALL OF YOUR BACKGROUND IN ACCOUNTING AND BOOKKEEPING. IF IT'S IF THIS IS IF THERE IS SUCH A TERM NOWADAYS. 
          CAN YOU DESCRIBE A TIME WITH ALL OF YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT YOU HAD TO MAKE A DIFFICULT
DECISION, AND A PUBLIC OR HIGH STAKES ENVIRONMENT? AND WHAT WAS THE PROCESS? YOU KNOW, YOU DO A LOT OF TALK. YOU'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT COLLABORATION AND
OUTREACH. 
          YOU KNOW WHICH WHICH WHICH I LIKED, BUT BUT GIVE ME DO YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN
ADDRESS THAT QUESTION IN YOUR IF YOU CAN REFLECT A MINUTE ON YOUR IMPRESSIVE HISTORY. 
          CAN YOU SHARE ANY THOUGHTS ALONG THOSE LINES? CERTAINLY. SO THROUGHOUT MY CAREER I'VE I'VE IN MANAGEMENT,
LEADERSHIP ROLES, ETC. 
          I'M CURRENTLY IN ONE RIGHT NOW, SO I'VE ALWAYS MADE A LOT OF THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS FROM A
FINANCE PERSPECTIVE. 
          BUT I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE OF RECENT EXAMPLE IN WHICH MY COMPANY IS. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HEARD OF THE RECENT NEWS WHERE WINE AND SPIRITS CONSUMPTION IS
DOWN BY ADULTS. 
          SO THAT'S BEEN A THAT'S BEEN BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          THAT'S BEEN A HUGE WE'RE NOT MEETING OUR VOLUME EXPECTATION. 
          WE'RE NOT BEING A PROFIT EXPECTATION BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT BUYING,
YOU KNOW, THOSE SPIRITS, ETC.. 
          SO OUR COMPANY DECIDED TO MAKE A COMPANY WIDE PRICE INCREASE,
AND IT IMPACTED A LOT OF ABOUT A LOT OF OUR LARGER CONSUMERS LIKE TOTAL WINE ASPECTS. BUT THEY DID. WE MADE IT WITHOUT GETTING TOO MUCH INSIDER
INFORMATION. 
          WE MADE A PRICE INCREASE THAT AFFECTED A LOT OF OUR MOM AND POP STORES,
WHICH WAS WHICH IS ACTUALLY GOING TO POTENTIALLY PUT SOME OF THOSE SMALLER STORES AND OPERATIONS OUT OF BUSINESS, TO BE FRANK. SO WITHOUT GETTING ALL THE TWO DETAILS,
WITHOUT ANY SPECIFICS, I PARTNERED WITH OVER 7 TO 8 SMALLER MOM AND POP ORGANIZATIONS THAT SOLD OUR PRODUCT AND
WORKED OUT WITH AND NEGOTIATED, WE STILL HAD TO INCREASE THE PRICING. 
          WE CAME UP WITH A DEAL, NEGOTIATED A IT WAS GOING TO BE LESS IMPACT TO THEM,
BUT I HAD TO GET THEIR BUY IN BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WERE WE WERE THEY WERE RUNNING THE THREAT OF LOSING SOME OF THESE CUSTOMERS. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES WERE GOING TO ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY BE OUT OF BUSINESS. 
          SO IT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE DELICATE BALANCING ACT WHERE I HAD TO PROTECT THE NEEDS
AND INTERESTS OF MY COMPANY. 
          NUMBER ONE. MARGIN, EROSION, PROFITABILITY, ETC. 
          BUT ALSO THE HEART AND UNDERSTANDING HAD TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN WE CAN LOSE A LITTLE BIT HERE BECAUSE THEY ONLY GENERATE 0.0 2% OF
OUR GENERAL INCOME ANYWAYS, SO JUST LET THEM BREATHE A LITTLE BIT. WE'LL STILL BE OKAY,
AND MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A LITTLE INCREASE SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          SO THOSE TYPE OF GET IT, YOU KNOW, ENDS AND OUT YOU KNOW GIVES AND PLUSES. 
          IT TAKES SOME MINUSES. SOMETHING I'VE BEEN DOING THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE CAREER AND BEING
ABLE TO COLLABORATE, MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS SOMETIMES. I'M OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT THE CEO OR CEO FOR ANYTHING. 
          SO SOMETIMES I'M TOLD I'M NOT GIVING. YOU KNOW NOT. 
          YOU KNOW, DON'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. BUT I WILL COME WITH FACTS TO OFFER MY OPINION,
MY ASSESSMENT. 
          BUT I COME WITH FACTS AND HAVE THE ANALYTICS TO BACK IT UP. 
          YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO TRY TO COME UP WITH THE BEST DECISION,
NOT NECESSARILY THE PERSONALITIES, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU HAVE TO COLLABORATE WITH IN REACHING THAT DECISION? OUT OF THOSE. TALK ABOUT TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT. 
          IT STARTED OFF WITH A SERIES OF MEETINGS, OBVIOUSLY. 
          SO IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE SCHEDULED A MEETING. 
          SO IN TOTAL, WE PROBABLY DEALT WITH 20 PLUS PEOPLE ACROSS DIFFERENT DISBANDED EXPANDED
VARIOUS MARKETS THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          SO THAT'S WHEN SOME OF THEM WERE EVEN NATIONALLY. 
          SO THE PROCESS WAS AROUND HAVING MY ANALYSTS ANALYSIS DONE FIRST. 
          I UNDERSTOOD THEIR VIEWPOINT, TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          [01:35:01]
I PUT IN A LOT OF NELSON, WE USE ALL THE NELSON INFORMATION. 
          LOOKING AT LOOKING LOOKING AT DIFFERENT MARKET TRENDS,
MARKET ANALYSIS, BUT ALSO OUR PROFITABILITY AND ALSO LOOKING AT THEIR PROFITABILITY, UNDERSTANDING THEIR CUSTOMER BASE. SO TAKING A TAKE IT AGAIN,
BEFORE I HAD EVEN HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM, I HAD TO DEVELOP AND AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION WE'RE CLOSE TO BY OUR SALES
ORGANIZATIONS, BECAUSE I HAD TO PARTNER WITH THEM TO COME UP WITH THE DATA TO AT LEAST PRESENT TO THEM A
PROPOSAL SO THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH A FINAL SOLUTION. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SIR. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM, LOOK, I WOULD HOW WOULD YOU SUPPORT GARLAND'S HOUSING NEEDS? BY ENSURING FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND NOT
CONCENTRATED IN ONE AREA. 
          CERTAINLY. SO DEFINITELY. AGAIN, I'M VERY BIG INTO LOOKING AT DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION,
AND WE HAVE CENSUS TRACKS. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DISTRICTS. AND EVEN IN DISTRICTS YOU HAVE SUBSECTIONS OF
DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT MEDIAN INCOME. 
          THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO NUMBER ONE, UNDERSTANDING THE UNDERSTANDING THE DEMOGRAPHICS,
UNDERSTANDING THE INCOMES. 
          AND ALSO NUMBER ONE. NUMBER ONE, THOUGH I NEED TO UNDERSTAND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE
SPECIFICS YET, BUT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CRITERIA IS,
BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS YES, IT'S NICE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE EVERYONE TO HAVE A HOME,
BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THIS, GO BACK INTO THE AREA WHERE THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO GOT LOANS THAT REALLY WEREN'T QUALIFIED. AND THEN WE HAD LIKE THE BIG HOUSING,
YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL CRISIS THAT, YOU KNOW, I GOT IMPACTED THAT I GOT IMPACTED BY. 
          THEN WHEN I LIVED IN FLORIDA WHERE WE HAD THE I HAD A COUPLE OF HOMES DOWN THERE I
COULDN'T SELL FOR A WHILE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WON THE WATER. SO WHAT I WANT WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND FIRST IS MAKE SURE I
SEND OUT THE CRITERIA SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE. 
          SO I CAN CLEARLY PINPOINT WHICH AREAS. AND THEN ALSO ONCE I GET TO THAT POINT,
UNDERSTAND AND COLLABORATE WITH WHOEVER THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT? FOR THE HOUSING STOCK. I KNOW WE'RE LANDLOCKED HERE,
BUT, YOU KNOW, ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE WE CAN. 
          YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE DILAPIDATED HOMES THAT ARE MAYBE NOT EVEN HAVING PEOPLE LIVING THERE. 
          CAN WE GET RID OF SOME HOMES AND SO THAT WE CAN BUILD NEW STOCK. 
          SO JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EACH INDIVIDUAL POCKETS THAT WE HAVE MORE NEEDS WHERE WE HAVE
LOWER HOUSING PERCENTAGES COMPARED TO OTHER AREAS. 
          UNDERSTANDING THAT SEEING WHAT THE HOUSING STOCK IS,
WHAT THE HOUSING NEEDS ARE. 
          UNDERSTANDING THE INCOME. YOU KNOW, PARAMETERS IN THOSE AREAS. 
          AND THEN AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKETING
CAMPAIGNS ARE NOW, BUT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAITING LIST OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, GET ASSISTANCE OR NOT, OR DO WE NEED TO GET THE CAMPAIGN OUT TO TRY TO GET MORE
PEOPLE INVOLVED? SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL BE QUESTIONING TO UNDERSTAND FIRST. SO AGAIN,
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE DATA, UNDERSTANDING OF THE KNOWLEDGE. BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA,
AS SOMEONE SAID EARLIER, ABOUT TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND GETTING THE PEOPLE'S BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PERCEPTION IS MORE THAN REALITY. SO I HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE
NEEDS OF WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT AND WHAT THEY DESIRE. 
          AND THEN AND ALSO MAYBE TRY TO DISPEL SOME MYTHS THAT MAY BE OUT THERE AS WELL. 
          SO GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE,
BUT PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY NEED TO HELP THE MOST. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT STARTS WITH THE DATA. UNDERSTANDING THE CRITERIA. 
          UNDERSTANDING WHAT? OUR BUDGET. IF WE ONLY HAVE $500,000 AVAILABLE I'M JUST MAKING UP A
NUMBER. 
          YOU KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW,
TELL THAT TO 10,000 PEOPLE. 
          IF I KNOW WHERE I'M LIMITED SCOPE OF HOW MUCH WE HAVE,
THE NEEDS ARE. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE APPROACH I WOULD TAKE IS DATA DRIVEN UNDERSTANDING THE RULES, UNDERSTANDING THE POTENTIAL CUSTOMER BASE THAT MAY BE ELIGIBLE,
AND THEN COMING UP WITH A STRATEGY AND PLAN AND DO SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT MAY HAVE WORKED IN THE PAST MAY NOT WORK NOW. MAYBE LOOKING AT SOME. AND
AGAIN, THAT'S WHY HAVING A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE ON THE BOARD AND PARTNERING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS MAY GIVE YOU A BETTER, A BETTER IMPACT GOING FORWARD. 
          SO THAT'S THE THINGS I WILL BE LOOKING AT. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. DAMON. BOARD SERVICE CAN BE VERY TIME INTENSIVE AND
COMPLEX. 
          DO YOU HAVE THE TIME AND THE CAPACITY TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN THE HFC MEETINGS,
COMMITTEE WORK AND PREPARATION? CERTAINLY. SO GREAT QUESTION. AND SO WHAT WOULD I TRY MY BEST TO DO IS PRIORITIZE
PRIORITIZE ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          RIGHT. SO BUT ALSO MORE STRATEGICALLY. SO THERE ARE SOME INVOLVEMENTS THAT I HAVE IN MY
LEVEL OF MY LEVEL INVOLVEMENT. 
          I MAY MAYBE LIKE ONCE A YEAR, ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          SO I TAKE ALL OF THAT CONSIDERATION. I MAY HAVE MAY HAVE AN IMPACT,
BUT MY LEVEL INVOLVEMENT MAY NOT BE AS MUCH AS OTHER AREAS. 
          SO WHAT I WOULD DO, I WOULD UNDERSTAND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS MORE CRITICAL AND
IMPORTANT TO ME, WHICH I THINK THIS IS BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE HOUSING SHORTAGES,
THE HOUSING NEEDS ARE SO CRITICAL, NOT ONLY IN GARLAND BUT NATIONWIDE. THAT WOULD BE A HIGHER PRIORITY FOR ME. 
          SO LIKE FOR INSTANCE, LIKE MY HOA BOARD, WHICH I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE STEPPING OFF HERE
SOON, 
          [01:40:06]
THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SACRIFICES. WELL,
WE'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY TAKE A STEP BACK ON CERTAIN THINGS IN ORDER TO MAKE MORE TIME FOR THINGS THAT ARE MORE IMPORTANT AT THAT TIME. SO I'M PRETTY GOOD ABOUT WITH A GOOD SUPPORT
SYSTEM AT HOME AND OTHER THINGS THAT I'M ABLE TO DO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT. 
          I'M ABLE TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED FOR THINGS THAT REALLY MATTER TO ME. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CANDIDATE? I SEE, NO, SIR. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I JUST NOTICED THAT ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU FOR COMING DOWN. COUNSEL. 
          WE HAVE YOU KNOW, IT'S I'VE BEEN ON PART OF A LOT OF THESE INTERVIEWS FOR VARIOUS
COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS THAT WE APPOINT, AND I THINK WE ARE BLESSED THIS TIME TO HAVE FIVE VERY STRONG CANDIDATES AND WILL HAVE A
TOUGH DECISION TO MAKE TOMORROW TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT. 
          SO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS AT THIS TIME. 
          I ASK YOU TO BE BACK AT 755. GREAT. 
          WELCOME BACK TO THE AUGUST 18TH, 2025 WORK SESSION OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSSION OF THE FY 20 2526 PROPOSED ANNUAL
OPERATING BUDGET. 
          [5. Discussion of the FY 2025-26 Proposed Annual Operating Budget]
MR. WATSON, YOU ALREADY IN PLACE. I'M READY TO GO. 
          YES, SIR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, YOU JUST GET ME TONIGHT. 
          ALISON STEADMAN HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY, SO KEEP HER IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. 
          SO I'LL DO MY BEST TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          TONIGHT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM CHIEF BRIAN REGARDING THE SROS. 
          AND ALSO AT YOUR SPOT, WE HAVE ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS EXCEPT FOR ONE RELATED TO FROM
THAT THAT CAME FROM THE SATURDAY WORK SESSION. 
          SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LOOK THOSE OVER AND WE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS AFTER CHIEF'S PRESENTATION. 
          THEN WE'LL GO OVER THE CALENDAR. SO IF YOU'RE ALL READY,
WE CAN HAVE THE CHIEF COME UP. 
          YES, SIR. I THINK WE'RE READY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS SAVANNAH MARTIN,
AND SHE'S HERE TO ANSWER EVERY SINGLE QUESTION I CAN'T ANSWER. 
          SHE'S GOING TO KNOW. YEAH, SHE'S MUCH SMARTER THAN ME. 
          SO THE GOOD NEWS IS, I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING. 
          BUT I DID GET A REQUEST TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THE SRO PROGRAM AND THE BUDGET OF THE SRO
PROGRAM. 
          SO I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THESE SLIDES REAL QUICK. SO THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE
STAFFING OF THE SRO PROGRAM. 
          THERE ARE 31 SROS, THREE SUPERVISORS AND ONE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. 
          AND THIS IS THE COST BREAKDOWN. AND I ACTUALLY PULLED THIS OUT OF THE MOU. 
          BUT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE COST BREAKDOWN,
THERE'S EIGHT SROS THAT ARE 100% FUNDED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          AND THOSE EIGHT SROS ARE LOCATED IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          THERE ARE SIX HIGH SCHOOL SROS AND TWO FLOATERS. 
          23 SROS ARE 5053 SUPERVISORS. ONE SRO ADMIN IS 5050. 
          AND THEN THE OFFICE AND SUPPLIES THAT ARE AT THE SCHOOLS ARE PAID FOR BY GIS AND THE
POLICE CARE IS PAID FOR BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEN THE VEHICLES ARE SPLIT 5050. I SHOULD GIVE YOU AN IDEA. 
          AND I SHOWED YOU THIS SLIDE A FEW WEEKS AGO,
BUT THE SRO DEPLOYMENT BY SCHOOL. 
          AND AGAIN, I CAN RUN THROUGH IT QUICK, BUT THERE'S 5 OR 10 SROS AT THE HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          THERE'S TWO AT EACH HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEN THERE'S ONE SRO AT EACH SCHOOL UNTIL YOU GET TO
THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. 
          AND THERE'S FIVE SRO SCHOOL SROS IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. 
          THERE'S TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FLOATERS. AND THEN,
JUST AS A REMINDER, THERE'S 22 ARMED SECURITY OFFICERS THAT ARE ALSO COVERING THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. THIS IS THE PROJECTED COST. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECTED COST IS AROUND 6.3 MILLION. 
          THE CITY PORTION OF THAT IS 2.237, AND THAT'S ABOUT 35% OF THE OVERALL COST. 
          MOST OF THAT IS TOWARDS SALARY, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION. 
          AND THEN VEHICLES, THE VEHICLE EXPENSES, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE GIZZARD PORTION AGAIN. 
          THE GIZZARD PORTION ON THE SALARY IS HIGHER BECAUSE THEY ARE PAYING FOR EIGHT SROS 100%. 
          AND THEN GIZZARD PAYS 100% OF THE OVERTIME. AND AS A REMINDER,
THE OVERTIME IS FRONT LOADED. 
          [01:45:03]
SO WE GIVE WE GIVE BUDGET A PROJECTION OF WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IN THE
OVERTIME. 
          SO IT'S FRONT LOADED, BUT IT'S ALSO FRONT LOADED AS A REVENUE THAT'S GOING TO COME IN FROM
GIZZARD. 
          AND SO THAT'LL BALANCE OUT OVER THE YEARS OR OVER THE MONTHS. 
          I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE SALARY FOR POLICE OFFICER. 
          BUT THE IT'S NOT JUST THE BASE SALARY. BUT WE ALSO CHARGE 50% OF MEDICARE MEALS,
HEALTH INSURANCE, ALL THOSE COSTS. SO ABOUT 73,000 PER OFFICER IS WHAT EACH SIDE PAYS. 
          PACE AND THEN I CAN GO THROUGH. BUT IT'S THE SAME FOR SUPERVISOR. 
          THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU AN IDEA FOR SUPERVISOR ABOUT 88,000. 
          AND THEN OUR ONE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IS ABOUT 34,000 EACH. 
          AND THEN VEHICLES. NOW THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT VEHICLES THAT THE SRO PROGRAM USES. 
          THIS GIVES YOU JUST THE EXAMPLE OF THE CHEVROLET TAHOE,
WHICH IS A PURSUIT VEHICLE. 
          THE ERF CHARGE IS 17,000. THE ANNUAL FLEET CHARGE IS 8000. 
          SO IT'S ABOUT 25,000 PER YEAR PER VEHICLE THAT EACH SIDE IS PAYING. 
          I KNOW THAT'S A BIG OVERVIEW OF IT. I RUN THROUGH THAT QUICK,
BUT I'LL OPEN IT FOR QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. QUESTION FIRST. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHIEF, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THIS QUESTION WAS ASKED IS THAT WE
HAVE HAD A QUESTION CONTINUALLY OVER THE YEARS, AND ESPECIALLY IT SEEMS RIGHT ABOUT NOW, AND IT RELATES TO THE SRO PROGRAM. 
          IF YOU GO BACK TO YEAH, I'LL GO THAT WAS YEAH. 
          RIGHT THERE IS GOOD. AND THAT QUESTION SEEMS TO BE THAT THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT WE
REALLY DO LIKE THE PROGRAM. 
          IT'S A PROGRAM THAT PUTS OFFICERS IN THE SCHOOLS. 
          IT HELPS US TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT MANY DIFFERENT SUBJECTS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE
PROACTIVE ABOUT IF IT WERE NOT FOR THEM BEING THERE. 
          BUT THE CONCERN THEN BECOMES BECAUSE OF BUDGET CONSTRAINTS. 
          AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE ON THE BUDGETARY TIME. THE QUESTION IS,
SHOULD GSD BE PAYING MORE, IF NOT 100% OF THE COST, WHILE KEEPING THE PROGRAM THE MANNER OR THE WAY THAT IT IS? THE ISD AT THIS POINT HAS I THINK, JUST VOTED TO DO A TAX INCREASE AND THIS MAY BE A VERY
GOOD TIME FOR THEM TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS INTO THEIR BUDGET. BUT FOR ME, WHAT I LIKE IS I LIKE TO BE TRANSPARENT. 
          AND LET'S PUT THE QUESTION TO REST. LET'S JUST THIS IS THE WAY THAT IT IS WHERE WE SEE IT, IF YOU WILL. WOULD YOU EXPOUND? WOULD YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THE REASON THAT YOU FEEL THAT
WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE BUDGET IN THE MANNER ABOUT WHICH IT IS? SURE. AND YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY YOU'RE GETTING MY OPINION. 
          I KNOW CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER HAS BUDGET PRIORITIES,
BUT IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME AS SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN HERE 28 YEARS, HAS BEEN CHIEF FOR SEVEN YEARS AND HAS BEEN A CLOSE PART OF THE SRO PROGRAM,
WE'RE SPENDING 2.2 MILLION A YEAR TO KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE. AND IT'S NOT. AND I KNOW THERE'S AN ARGUMENT THAT YOU COULD DO THE SAME THING WITH
THE ARMED SECURITY GUARD, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THING. WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT ARE IN THE SCHOOLS THAT
ARE BACKED BY THE ENTIRE RESOURCES OF THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND SO WHEN THAT INCIDENT HAPPENS AND IT COULD BE A THREAT THE NIGHT BEFORE IT COULD BE A
THREAT. 
          THE WEEK BEFORE OR AS IT HAPPENS WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CONTACTS,
TO HAVE THOSE FRIENDSHIPS, TO HAVE THOSE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN PUT INTO PLAY IMMEDIATELY. 
          AND WE'VE DONE THAT TIME AFTER TIME. AND SO THAT ALONE,
I THINK, IS WORTH THE COST OF THE PROGRAM. 
          BUT THEN EXPANDING ON THAT IT'S THE MENTORSHIPS. 
          IT'S THE IT'S THE, THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT THE OFFICERS ARE DEVELOPING. 
          IT'S THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT THE KIDS ARE ALSO GETTING TO SEE THE OFFICERS ON A DAILY
BASIS. 
          AND WHAT THEY ARE SEEING FOR THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I CAN GO ON AND ON, BUT BUT AGAIN, IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME,
IS THE CITY SPENDING THEIR FUNDS WISELY IN 31 SROS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS OF GARLAND, TEXAS, AT $2.23 MILLION,
I WOULD SAY THAT'S A VERY GOOD BARGAIN. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM LUK. 
          CHIEF. SO HOW ARE THE HOW ARE THE ELEMENTARY SRO OFFICERS RESPONDING TO THIS,
THIS CHANGE? AND HOW DO YOU SEE THE MORALE IN WITH THIS CHANGE? SO THERE'S NOT A BIG CHANGE TO THEM. NOW THERE IS DISCUSSION OF CHANGE COMING IN THE
FUTURE. 
          BUT WHAT? JUST AS A REMINDER, WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION A FEW WEEKS AGO WE NEEDED THE
SROS TO STAY IN THEIR SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF THE SENATE 
          [01:50:06]
BILL. I HAVE TO SENATE BILL THREE, I THINK. AND SO WE WHAT WE DID WAS WE ADDED TWO SRO,
WE CREATED TWO SRO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FLOATER POSITIONS FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SROS,
ONE DUE TO THE SCHOOL CLOSURE OR TEMPORARY SCHOOL CLOSURE AND ONE DUE TO A VACANCY. SO WE CREATED THOSE FLOATERS. 
          AND SO THAT'S REALLY BEEN THE ONLY CHANGE. NOW AS WE MOVE FORWARD,
THERE IS DISCUSSION OF WHAT DO WE DO IN THE FUTURE? DO THIS. DOES THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FILL ALL THE SCHOOLS WITH ASSOS AND THEN WE HAVE
ADDITIONAL FLOATERS. 
          I THINK THAT'S A STRONG LIKELIHOOD THAT OCCURS,
BUT WE HAVE NOT WORKED THROUGH THAT YET. 
          THAT'S STILL IN DISCUSSION. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. BUT WITH THE CURRENT FIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SROS AND TWO FLOATERS. 
          HAVE YOU HEARD MUCH DISSENT IN THAT? I HAVE NOT HEARD MUCH DISSENT,
BUT I WILL SAY YOU KNOW, POLICE OFFICERS LIKE THE POSITIONS THAT THEY'RE IN AND WHEN WHEN THEY'RE IN A POSITION,
ESPECIALLY IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND YOU BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, IT'S NOT FUN TO GET MOVED. 
          IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT. BUT WE DO HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PROGRAM,
WHAT'S BEST FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND TO COVER WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO COVER BY LAW. 
          THANK YOU. I WENT TO GIS SCHOOLS MY WHOLE LIFE AND THE SRO PROGRAM. 
          GETTING TO KNOW A POLICE OFFICER THROUGHOUT MY EDUCATION WAS AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO
GROWING UP HERE. 
          IT WAS I, I CAN'T IMAGINE IT NOT BEING A PART OF LIFE NOW FOR OUR KIDS. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THEY DO. 
          AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CHIEF. SEVERAL OF THE CAMPUSES HAVE CONSOLIDATED FOR VARIOUS REASONS. 
          HAVE YOU HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING? ANY RUMORS OR ANYTHING FROM YOUR OFFICERS? IT'S AN EXAMPLE. MONTCLAIR AND HEATHER LANE. IS THAT WORKING FINE OR ANY ANY ANY RUMBLINGS
OR THE THE ASSIGNMENTS? PRETTY MUCH THE SAME GIVEN THE INCREASED POPULATION ON THE HITHER
GREEN CAMPUS. 
          WELL, THE THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. 
          I'VE HEARD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT. YEAH, I'VE HEARD THAT NOW IT'S IT'S EARLY IN THE SCHOOL YEAR
AND WE TEND TO SEE LESS TRAFFIC AS THE SCHOOL YEAR GOES BECAUSE EVERYONE'S DROPPING OFF AT THE FIRST OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. 
          AND THEN AND SO WE'LL SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT. 
          BUT WE CAN SEE THE HEAVIER TRAFFIC. BUT OTHER THAN,
OTHER THAN, OTHER THAN THE TRAFFIC, THE TRAFFIC ISSUES. 
          ANY OTHER ISSUES? NOT THAT I'VE HEARD. NO, SIR. 
          WHAT ABOUT OVER AT VIOLET ELEMENTARY? IT'S THE SAME THING. 
          IT'S TRAFFIC, BUT NOTHING ADDITIONAL. SO THE OFFICERS ARE NOT. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE ANY GRAVE CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS UNIQUE TO THOSE CAMPUSES,
RIGHT? IF THEY DO, IT HASN'T MADE IT TO ME. OKAY, SO I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING. 
          I JUST WANTED YOU TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM,
FROM THOSE CAMPUSES. 
          BUT I WANT YOU TO, TO TO GIVE YOUR YOUR $0.02 ABOUT THOSE WHO CAMPUSES. 
          I'LL CERTAINLY LET YOU KNOW IF SOMETHING COMES UP. 
          BUT THERE'S ALWAYS PAINS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR THAT WE WORK THROUGH. 
          AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE NOW. YEAH, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF ON THE SRO PROGRAM? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU. CHIEF. NO QUESTIONS FOR SAVANNAH. SHE'S BEGGING TO ANSWER. OH. 
          COUNSELOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET IN GENERAL FOR MR. WATSON? HE HASN'T SAID MUCH UP THERE YET. NO,
WE HAVE A LIST OF UP. 
          YES, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, I WASN'T GOING TO MENTION THIS,
BUT I'LL GO AHEAD ANYWAY, SINCE YOU OPEN IT UP. OKAY. ON THE ARE QUESTIONS THAT NOT SATURDAY,
BUT THERE ARE SENT THAT ARE SENT IN BEFORE THAT. CORRECT. AND I READ THROUGH THE RESPONSES AND BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT
ADDRESSED THE SECTIONS THAT DEALT WITH THE THE SPECIAL FUNDS AND HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE,
ARE BUDGETED. 
          THERE'S A SECTION I CAN'T THINK OF THE PAGES NOW,
BUT THERE THERE ARE SEVERAL PAGES WHERE THEY THEY'RE LIKE HOUSING AND SOME 
          [01:55:01]
OF THE OTHERS. SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? I DIDN'T SEE I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE
RESPONSES THAT ADDRESS THAT. 
          CAN YOU HELP ME? SURE. THE THE APPROACH WE TOOK WITH ALL THE SESSIONS IS THAT WE WE WANTED
TO PROVIDE YOU AND WE MAY HAVE BEEN, SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT WE WERE DOING,
BUT WE WERE SHOWING GLOBALLY THERE WAS FIVE ITEMS. FLEET, FACILITIES, IT GROUP HEALTH WERE ITEMS THAT WERE GLOBALLY CAUSING THE INCREASES. 
          SO WE WE WE WROTE THE RESPONSES TO SHOW THAT THESE ARE THE FIVE ITEMS THAT ARE GLOBALLY
CAUSING EACH ONE OF THE FUNDS, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME ANSWER FOR EACH FUND. OKAY,
OKAY. 
          OKAY. SO SO THE THE THE SECTION THAT DEAL WITH THE FUNDING PORT,
HOW DID YOU ADDRESS THAT. 
          THE FUNDING PART FOR THE HOUSING. HOUSING THE HOUSING IS JUST AGGREGATED AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          BUT HOUSING THE THERE ARE OTHER SPECIAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN THAT ARE INCLUDED. 
          I CAN'T THINK OF ALL OF THEM NOW, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL,
YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE BUDGET BOOK. 
          SURE. I MEAN, I CAN ADDRESS THE ALL THE SPECIAL FUNDS THAT ARE IN THERE. 
          AND SEE IF I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE. 
          I'M SO CDBG THAT FUNDING IS LIKE PRETTY MUCH APPROVED BEFORE THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          THAT'S WHEN MONA WOODARD AND BECKY KING COME FORWARD AND THEN Y'ALL ALLOCATE ALL THE
ITEMS. SO CDBG IS PRETTY MUCH ALREADY APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND IS PLACED IN THE BUDGET. 
          THE HOUSING ASSISTANCE FUND, WHICH PROVIDES RENTAL ASSISTANCE,
IS VERY SIMILAR. 
          IT IS BASED OFF OF HUD FUNDING THAT COMES IN AND WE PROVIDE RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          WE STILL HAVE OUR ARPA FUNDS, WHICH ARE REALLY A PASS THROUGH TO THE CIP. 
          AND WE PRESENTED THE ARP. WHEN ARE WE WHEN ARE WE PROJECTED TO EXPEND ALL OF THOSE ARPA
FUNDS? RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTED TO SPEND RIGHT BEFORE THE DEADLINE,
WHICH IS NEXT YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE EXPECTED TO GET THROUGH THE DEADLINE BEFORE THE END OF 26. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. YOU KNOW,
WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW DURING OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING SESSION. 
          WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AT THE SEPTEMBER 2ND REGULAR MEETING AS WELL. 
          AND AFTER THAT PUBLIC HEARING, WE'LL BE LOOKING TO ADOPT THE BUDGET THAT SAME DAY ON
SEPTEMBER 2ND. 
          SO, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A FEW MORE WEEKS TO LOOK THROUGH. 
          YOUR BUDGETS PROVIDE ANY QUESTIONS. AND THERE'S THE SLIDE UP THERE YOU HAVE IT READY FOR
ME. 
          ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU KNOW THE SCHEDULE COUNCIL. 
          SO AND ALWAYS WE HAVE THAT OPTION FOR A SPECIAL SESSION ON AUGUST 26TH 26TH IF WE NEED
THAT. 
          BUT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY KNEW THAT IN THE PAST,
BUT IT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE IN CASE WE DO. 
          MAYOR, ONE QUESTION ON THAT IS WITH THAT SPECIAL SESSION,
WOULD YOU WANT TO TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, OR WOULD COUNCIL WANT TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY ON IF THAT SPECIAL SESSION IS REQUIRED? OR MAYBE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE POSTING REQUIREMENTS AND
EVERYTHING OF THAT NATURE? OF COURSE, I THINK COUNCIL, WE HAVEN'T TRADITIONALLY NEEDED THAT IN THE PAST. I THINK THE
QUESTIONS ARE BEING ANSWERED SUFFICIENTLY SO FAR. I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE NEED FOR ANOTHER MEETING NEXT WEEK IF YOU DON'T COUNCIL. 
          CAN WE GET A CONSENSUS ON THAT? NO MEETING ON THIS 26. 
          ALL RIGHT. THAT LOOKS UNANIMOUS. SO WE WILL FOREGO THAT MEETING ON THE 26TH AND LOOK
FORWARD TO THE NEXT DISCUSSION ON THE SECOND. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IF YOU'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS,
PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO MR. REX MYSELF OR ALISON STEADMAN. THANK YOU. WELL,
THANK YOU SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT COUNCIL. THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. IT'S THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM STATUS UPDATE. 
          [6. Capital Improvement Program - Status Update]
GOING FROM OPERATING BUDGET NOW TO CIP BUDGET. 
          ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MICHAEL POLAK HERE TO PRESENT THE UPDATE ON THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM,
ALONG WITH MICHAEL BUCKLER AND LEE WILLIAMS AND THE BOND PROGRAM. WE FOR THE LAST FIVE, ALMOST SIX YEARS NOW THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT
PROPOSITIONS I WILL BE COVERING COVERING STREETS IN STORM DRAINAGE THIS EVENING. AND THE OTHER TWO WILL BE COVERING THE PARKS AND RECREATION
AS WELL AS AS THE REST OF THE FACILITIES. 
          HOLFORD ROAD SEGMENT A IS APPROXIMATELY 90%. IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 90%
COMPLETE. 
          NOW, THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER ABOUT A MONTH AGO,
AND WE SHOULD BE COMPLETE LATE SUMMER. 
          [02:00:06]
WE'RE APPROACHING LATE SUMMER, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY SLIDE INTO SEPTEMBER. 
          WE SHOULD BE COMPLETE WITH THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE LANCE,
MOSTLY LANDSCAPING AND GRASS LEFT ON THIS PROJECT. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, IT'S. IT'S A REALLY WONDERFUL ROADWAY SECTION,
ALONG WITH THE TRAILS AND EVERYTHING. 
          NAME AND SCHOOL ROAD. WE. THIS ONE HAS JUST STARTED CONSTRUCTION IN FEBRUARY. 
          CAN WE EXPECT CONSTRUCTION TO STILL LAST ANOTHER TWO MORE YEARS? I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO HEAR,
BUT CONSTRUCTION DOES TAKE TIME. 
          THIS IS A VERY TIGHT CORRIDOR. WE'RE WIDENING TO FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY WITH A BRIDGE,
A NEW BRIDGE ACROSS SPRING CREEK. 
          AND IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THIS CONSTRUCTED. 
          AND IT'S GOING TO BE INCONVENIENT IF THE TRAVELING PUBLIC CAN FIND AN ALTERNATE ROUTE FOR
THE NEXT TWO YEARS, IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE. BUT WE SHOULD HAVE THIS HOPEFULLY COMPLETED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2027,
AND WE DO STILL HAVE A COUPLE A FEW MORE FRANCHISE UTILITY RELOCATIONS. AND WE'RE WAITING ON THE CPCS,
WHICH USED TO BE THE OLD KCS RAILROAD. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET PERMITS FOR THAT AS WELL AS ON COURSE TRYING TO GET THEIR PERMITS TO
GET EVERYTHING MOVED ACROSS THE RAILROAD. 
          BUT IT IS NOT HOLDING UP OUR, OUR CRITICAL PATH FOR CONSTRUCTION. 
          NOW, I HAVE I WANTED TO GET MY NOTES OUT REAL QUICK. 
          WE TOOK A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS OVER BACK AT THE END OF LAST YEAR. 
          AND WITH THE ANTICIPATION WHEN THEY WAS PHASING OUT,
WE TOOK OVER THESE PROJECTS FOR DRAINAGE AND STREETS FOR THE DESIGN. 
          WE WE HAD A FULL STAFF AT THE TIME, AND WE WERE WELL UNDERWAY STARTING JANUARY,
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE WE WERE A LITTLE BIT DERAILED. WE HAD AN ENGINEER LEAVE THAT WAS OVER ALL THESE
PROJECTS AND TAKE ANOTHER POSITION SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING SINCE THERE ARE REPLACEMENT. 
          IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT SLOWER PROCESS THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED. 
          WE DID HOWEVER, REALIZE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO TRAIN SOMEBODY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THEM UP TO SPEED PRETTY QUICKLY,
AS WELL AS TRYING TO GET THEM INVOLVED WITH ALL THESE PROJECTS AND UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT. WE DECIDED TO GO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ROUTE AND WE HIRED COUNCIL APPROVED IT BACK IN
MAY, JUNE. I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA WHERE WE HIRED OUTSIDE CONSULTING TO HELP
US COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A CONSULTANT ON TO TRY TO KEEP THESE PROJECTS MOVING SO THAT WE DON'T DELAY
THEM AND WE CAN GET THEM CONSTRUCTED. 
          WE HAVE DELAYED A LITTLE BIT IN SCHEDULE, SO COUNTRY CLUB PARK ESTATES AND SATURN SPRINGS
ESTATES ARE TWO OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          AND WE SAY ANTICIPATED START ON COUNTRY CLUB. 
          WE'RE AT 90% UTILITY RELOCATIONS OR WE'RE TRYING TO GET UNDERWAY OUT THERE. 
          WE ANTICIPATE THE START TO BE Q2 OF 2026. WE HAVE Q1 IN HERE,
BUT IT'LL BE PROBABLY Q2 OF 2026. 
          SATURN SPRINGS ESTATES I SHOWED THAT THE DESIGN WAS 60% SUBMITTAL AND IT'S UNDERWAY. 
          WE RECEIVED THOSE, THE 60% SUBMITTAL. WE LOOKED AT THEM REALLY QUICKLY. 
          THERE WERE SOME THINGS MISSING, SO WE REJECTED IT. 
          WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING THE THE REVISED 60% ON NEXT WEEK. 
          SO THAT SHOULD STILL BE ON TRACK AND ANTICIPATED START OF CONSTRUCTION OF Q4 2026. 
          AND THEN MONTCLAIR. THAT ACTUALLY STARTED CONSTRUCTION BACK IN FEBRUARY. 
          WE HAD THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING OR THE OR THE MEETING WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS OUT
THERE. 
          AND THAT WAS THAT WAS AN ENTERTAINING MEETING. 
          THAT WAS A GOOD MEETING. BUT WE HAD WE HAD THE CONTRACTOR THERE ANSWERED THEIR QUESTIONS. 
          THAT SEEMS TO BE GOING RELATIVELY SMOOTH. WE HAVE BEEN MEETING A LOT WITH THE ELDERLY. 
          THERE'S A FEW ELDERLY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT HAD SOME RESTRICTIONS,
BUT EARLY ON. 
          BUT WE GOT THEM TAKEN CARE OF EARLY ON, AND EVERYTHING WORKED OUT WELL. 
          SO THAT WE DO WE DO ANTICIPATE COMPLETING THAT PROJECT ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR,
MAYBE JULY, POSSIBLY AUGUST OF NEXT YEAR. BOTTLENECK IMPROVEMENTS PACKAGE ONE. 
          THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE ANTICIPATE COMPLETING IN AUGUST. 
          IT MIGHT SLIDE INTO SEPTEMBER. WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS LEFT,
BUT THERE'S STILL SOME WORK TO BE DONE AND CLEAN UP SO THAT WE'LL SLIDE INTO SEPTEMBER FOR COMPLETION. PACKAGE TWO. WE ARE CURRENTLY ADVERTISED. 
          WE WILL BE ADVERTISING PROBABLY IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS FOR PACKAGE TWO,
AND THAT WILL MEAN THAT CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN IN FIRST QUARTER OF 26 IS THE ANTICIPATED START OF CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN PACKAGE THREE. 
          WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING THE FRANCHISE UTILITY RELOCATIONS THERE UNDERWAY AND THE
CONSTRUCTION WHERE WE SHOULD BE ADVERTISING IN IN QUARTER ONE OF NEXT YEAR, WITH ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION DATE STARTING IN Q3 OF NEXT YEAR. 
          [02:05:03]
AND THEN PACKAGE FOUR IS A MUCH MORE COMPLEX PROJECT. 
          THERE'S. RIGHT OF WAY IS GOING TO BE. COULD POSSIBLY BE A LITTLE BIT LENGTHY ON THIS. 
          ON THIS SECTION. AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF UTILITIES THAT WILL NEED TO BE RELOCATED AFTER
THE ACQUISITION OF, OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO WE HAVE THIS ANTICIPATED START DATE OF CONSTRUCTION IN Q4 OF 2027. 
          AND WE ARE TRYING TO PACKAGE THIS ONE TOGETHER WITH THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR REVITALIZATION
PROJECT, WHICH IS THE FIRST STREET FROM AVENUE D TO MILLER. 
          THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MEDIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND ENHANCEMENTS,
ALONG WITH SOME SIDEWALK AND AND PARKWAY AREA ENHANCEMENTS. SO THOSE WE TRY TO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PACKAGE TOGETHER AS ONE
PROJECT AND BID AS ONE PROJECT WITH THAT. 
          INTERRUPT YOU ONE SECOND. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. 
          GUESS WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK ABOUT SATURN SPRINGS DRAINAGE PROJECT. 
          YES. SO YOU ANTICIPATE GETTING THE 60% BACK IN TWO MONTHS? NO, THE 60%. WE'RE IN TWO WEEKS. NEXT WEEK WE SHOULD HAVE THE 60% BACK NEXT WEEK. 
          OKAY. AND THEN WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA. 
          WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THOSE MEETINGS? I'M TRYING TO GET ALL THAT PUT TOGETHER. 
          HOPEFULLY FOR SEPTEMBER IT'LL PROBABLY BE THE THIRD AND FOURTH WEEK OF SEPTEMBER. 
          I'M HOPING TO START ORGANIZING IT FOR THEN. OKAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO MEET WITH YOU BEFORE THOSE BEGIN,
JUST SO WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, AND I WANT TO BE,
YOU KNOW I WANT TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS INTELLIGENTLY, SO I WILL AS INTELLIGENT AS INTELLIGENTLY AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT AN ENGINEERING DEGREE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT, TOO. ALSO ON THE MONTCLAIR DRAINAGE PROJECT. 
          THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY BEHIND INTERVAL BETWEEN WINCO AND INTERVAL. 
          AND I'VE. I'VE GOTTEN REPORTS FROM A RESIDENT ON THAT STREET THAT THERE ARE LARGE RUTS
FROM THE EQUIPMENT BEING DRIVEN DOWN THERE. 
          SO IF YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, I'M SURE THEY WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU,
MR. MAYOR. LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE THIS CORRECT. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF PRODUCT PRESENTLY AT COUNTRY CLUB AS IT RELATES TO THE DRAINAGE,
RIGHT? LOTS OF PIPES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ALL RIGHT. 
          COUNTRY CLUB RIGHT AT COLONEL. RIGHT THERE. THAT IS A DIFFERENT PROJECT. 
          OH. IS IT? THAT'S THOSE ARE THOSE ARE A NUMBER OF DRAINAGE PROJECTS. 
          ASHEVILLE, COLONEL. AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE OTHER STREET THAT THAT WE CONSTRUCTED
OVER IN THAT AREA, BUT THAT'S THERE'S THREE PROJECTS THAT WERE COMBINED AS ONE FOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND THAT IS A SEPARATE PROJECT FROM THIS COUNTRY CLUB,
PARK ESTATES. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION TAKING PLACE PRESENTLY WITH EASTERN HILLS. 
          YES, SIR. SO VERY CONGESTED IT SEEMS. ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT PRODUCT,
BEING THERE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME AND THAT MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING. IT PROBABLY DOESN'T. ON ON COUNTRY CLUB. 
          NO. THEY'RE ACTIVELY TRYING TO CONSTRUCT THAT AND GET THAT ONE COMPLETE. 
          I DO NOT KNOW THE COMPLETION DATE OF THAT SECTION AT THIS TIME,
BUT I CAN FIND OUT AND SEND YOU SOME INFORMATION ON THAT. 
          WELL, WHAT IS THIS? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? YOU SAY THAT YOU ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION FIRST
QUARTER OF 2026. 
          OKAY. THIS THIS THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY COUNTRY VALLEY PARKWAY JUST TO THE NORTH OF OF
THE CREEK BETWEEN COUNTRY CLUB AND WELL, IT'S COUNTRY VALLEY PARKWAY. AND THEN YOU HAVE JAMES. GOOD. 
          OKAY. IN THAT AREA, IT'S A SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH OF THE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
CENTREVILLE. 
          YES. WELL IT'S IT'S ON, IT'S ON THE, IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF CENTERVILLE. 
          BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S NORTH OF THE CREEK THAT GOES THROUGH AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH INTO THE
OLD EASTERN HILLS GOLF COURSE. 
          THERE'S A CREEK THAT CROSSES RIGHT UNDER CENTERVILLE,
JUST NORTH OF COUNTRY CLUB. 
          AND THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION JUST NORTH OF THAT. 
          YOU CAN TAKE THIS ONE OFFLINE TOO, BUT, YOU KNOW,
CAN WE GET TOGETHER? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE ENGINEERING PROJECTS RIGHT NOW? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CONTINUE. ALL RIGHT. MY TURN. 
          I GET TO TALK ABOUT THE VERTICAL PROJECTS IN THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM. 
          SO ON APRIL 25TH, WE HAD ANOTHER BUILD GARLAND GARLAND DAY. 
          IT WAS THE SIXTH ONE. SO TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE WE WERE THERE CELEBRATING TWO
COMPLETIONS AND TWO BEGINNINGS. 
          HOLFORD REC AND SPIEGEL GREEN WERE COMPLETED AND THE TWO FIRE STATIONS,
ONE AND SEVEN, WE DID A GROUNDBREAKING. 
          GET INTO THOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE. HOLFORD WAS OPEN ON MAY 1ST AND THE AQUATIC ENVIRONMENT
WAS OPENED UP FOR MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, 
          [02:10:04]
SO THAT WAS EXCITING. IT'S 37,000FT². LARGEST REC FACILITY IN GARLAND. 
          AND WE ALSO OPENED SPIEGEL GREEN. THAT'S AT THE END OF THIS ONE. 
          FIRE STATION SIX, SEVEN AND ONE. THEY'RE EITHER COMPLETE OR UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. 
          FIRE STATION SIX HAD ANOTHER BUILD, GARLAND DAY,
WHICH WAS RIGHT AFTER THE LAST BOND UPDATE THAT WE DID. 
          SO IT'S IN HERE BECAUSE IT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER THE LAST UPDATE. 
          IT WAS CELEBRATED ON NOVEMBER 16TH, SO IT IS COMPLETE AND OPEN AND GETTING CLOSE TO
APPROACHING A YEAR. 
          FIRE STATION ONE AND SEVEN BOTH HAD THEIR GROUNDBREAKING ON APRIL 25TH,
AND THEY'RE FULLY UNDERWAY ON APRIL 14TH. 
          SOCIAL MEDIA POSTED SOME AERIAL BEAUTIFUL FLYOVERS OF THESE,
BOTH THESE SITES. 
          SO YOU CAN GO TO THE CITY OF GARLAND AND CHECK THOSE OUT. 
          BUT THESE ARE THE RENDERINGS OF THE FACILITY. 
          ONCE TRACKING FOR SEPTEMBER OF 26 AND SEVEN IS TRACKING FOR OCTOBER OF 26. 
          THEY'RE ABOUT A MONTH APART FROM EACH OTHER,
SO THE CONTRACTOR IS DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB GETTING HIGH MARKS FROM CHIEF LEE. 
          SO, SO FAR, SO GOOD. SPIEGEL GREEN, LIKE I MENTIONED,
WAS PART OF THAT FOR PROJECT BUILD GARLAND DAY. 
          AND THEN WE GET TO CENTRAL LIBRARY. WE HAD A STANDALONE OPENING ON THIS ONE ON JULY 12TH. 
          THIS WAS VERY RECENT. IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS. KAREN LOVES IT. 
          I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE DOES AS WELL. AND THAT WAS A LONG TIME COMING. 
          AND EVERYONE'S BEEN LOVING WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR. 
          AND NOW WE GET TO WEST. SO WEST IS RIGHT NOW SHOOTING FOR TCO SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION THIS
MONTH. 
          WE'VE DUG OUR HEELS IN ON THAT ONE, AND WE'VE REALLY DONE OUR BEST TO PUSH IT ALONG TO
THAT MILESTONE MOMENT. 
          AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SHOOTING FOR LETTING FOLKS IN AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHERE WE STAND ON THIS LONG PROCESS OF THIS PROJECT. 
          BUT IT IS IT'S COMING TOGETHER. WE'VE WALKED THE PUNCH LIST WORKING ON HEADING UP,
FINISHING ALL THE QUALITY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE WITH THE PUNCH LIST. AND WE'RE CLOSE. VERY CLOSE. SURF AND SWIM. 
          IT IS ON TRACK. ANOTHER MEMORIAL DAY OPENING,
BUT THAT'LL BE NEXT SPRING. 
          MEMORIAL DAY AT 26. IT IS ON TRACK. WE GOT, YOU KNOW,
MOST OF THE POUR POOL BOTTOMS HAVE BEEN POURED. 
          AND AGAIN, EXCITING BOND PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO BE IN 2026,
OPENING UP AS SCHEDULED. 
          SMALL, I SAY SMALL. POLICE HEADQUARTERS. THE INTERIOR REMODEL IS ABOUT HALFWAY DONE. 
          WE'RE INTO THE LOCKER ROOM EXPANSION AND RESTROOM REMODELING PORTION OF IT ON THE RIGHT
HAND SIDE RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'LL FINISH IN FALL OF 2025. 
          AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE LAST OF THE LARGE 2019 BOND PROGRAM PROJECTS IS THE SENIOR
ACTIVITY CENTER. IT HAS BEEN FULLY APPROVED, EXECUTED,
THE CONTRACTORS MOBILIZED TO THE SITE. 
          FENCING IS OUT THERE. AND THE GROUNDBREAKING IS THIS SATURDAY AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING. 
          SO LOTS OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENING. THANK YOU. DILLY QUESTION REAL QUICK. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE VERTICAL PROJECTS? MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. 
          WELL, LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THE SENIOR CENTER,
YOU WEREN'T HERE. 
          BUT WE DID ASK FOR SOME MORE DESIGN ELEMENTS. 
          SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? MEANING LIKE,
WHAT KIND OF AMENITIES ARE WE DESIGN? LIKE OUT OUTSIDE FACADE? SO MAYBE, LIKE SOME STAMPS IN THE STONE OR SOME WE. 
          THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR AS IT IS RELATED TO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PIECE OR
JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST THE BUILDING ITSELF, JUST TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. WE ALL KIND OF JUST WANTED TO SEE SOME STUFF ON THERE TO MAKE IT LOOK MORE IN TUNE
WITH. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO OR THE ADD ALTERNATES THAT YOU ORIGINALLY
PUT IN PLACE AND ALL OF THOSE WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE BASE BID SO THAT. 
          YEAH, SO THE PATIO SEATING SHADE STRUCTURE ELEMENTS THAT WERE KIND OF,
YOU KNOW, ADD AD ALTERNATE ON THE OUTSIDE AROUND IT, PLUS THE TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS IN THE NORTH SOUTH WEST CORNER. 
          ALL OF THOSE WERE ADD ALTERNATES. AND, YOU KNOW,
THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS, WE WERE ABLE TO ROLL THEM INTO THE BASE CONTRACT. AND ALL OF THOSE ARE BEING DONE AT THE SENIOR CENTER. SO WHAT CRYSTAL SAID ALL THOSE ARE BEING DONE. 
          [02:15:04]
GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BUILDING? ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY. PLEASE CONTINUE. OKAY. 
          SO A FEW UPDATES FOR SOME UPCOMING PROJECTS. WELL,
TWO FOR SURE. 
          UPCOMING SOON. WHEN JOYCE PARK THAT BID WAS PUT OUT LAST WEEK,
AND THAT CLOSES SEPTEMBER THE 4TH AND THEN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION WOULD START SOMETIME OCTOBER 2025 AND AND BE COMPLETED SOMETIME IN
Q2 OF 26. 
          WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT A CONSTRUCTION DETAIL AND TIMELINE ONCE WE
GET THOSE BIDS BACK AND ARE ABLE TO REVIEW THAT. 
          JOHN PAUL JONES THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S TAKING A WHILE,
A LONG WHILE. 
          IT'S AT 90%. PLAN SET IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. 
          ONCE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES PROVIDES THEIR COMMENTS BACK AND AND THEY STARTED THEIR REVIEW
IN JUNE. 
          SO ONCE WE GET THOSE BACK THEN WE HAVE TO COMPLETE GET 100% PLAN SET TO SUBMIT TO TEXAS
PARKS AND WILDLIFE. 
          AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PUT THEIR REVIEW ON THAT. 
          AND THAT COULD TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 4 TO 5 MONTHS BEFORE THEY FINALIZE THAT. 
          SO ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION STILL. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ESTIMATING STARTING Q2 OF 2026. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S FLUID DEPENDING UPON THE REVIEW PROCESS. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE PARK. THE BID RELEASE IS NEXT WEEK,
AUGUST THE 21ST, WITH THE BID CLOSING ON NINE OVER 11. 
          AND AGAIN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION IS OCTOBER OF 2025 AND COMPLETION IN QUARTER THREE OF
2026. 
          AND WE'D KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE ONCE WE HAVE THOSE BIDS
BACK IN. 
          COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS ON PARK PROJECTS? COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. YEAH, JUST A QUESTION ON LOU HOUGH. YES. CAN YOU TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT HAS THERE BEEN
COMMUNITY INPUT? CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? JUST BRIEFLY,
BECAUSE WE DID A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT OR PUBLIC INPUT. 
          WE WORKED WITH COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS ON THAT. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO WENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND RECEIVED THEIR INPUT. 
          WE DID SOME DIFFERENT EXERCISES WHERE THEY GOT TO VOTE ON HOW THEY WANT,
WHAT AMENITIES THEY WANTED TO SEE. 
          THEY GOT TO PICK SOME OF THAT ON THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE,
THINGS THAT WERE IMPORTANT. 
          SO WE DID GET THAT. WHO WERE SOME OF THE LEADERS? YOU MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? SURE. CHESTER JOHNSON RAISED THE QUESTION BECAUSE I GOT
SOME CALLS AND INQUIRIES AS AS THIS PROCESS WAS EVOLVING. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO GO AHEAD. WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS INVOLVED. 
          WE HAD A LARGE WE PROBABLY 15 TO 20 DIFFERENT MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE
INVOLVED. 
          RICKEY MCNEIL WAS INVOLVED. CHESTER JOHNSON WAS INVOLVED. 
          BIRDIE. VIRGINIA. I'M GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD,
BUT WE HAD 15 TO 20 DIFFERENT. 
          I'M NOT FORGETTING. YEAH. MR. CLARK MANY, MANY,
MANY DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT AND THAT ACTUALLY WERE INVOLVED WHEN THE REC CENTER WAS STILL THERE BACK IN THE DAY,
MANY, MANY DECADES AGO. 
          SO WE WE ENGAGED THOSE FOLKS AND, AND WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THEM. 
          AND THEY WERE INVOLVED FROM THE GET GO. OKAY. 
          INCLUDING YOUR DISCUSSION THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND YES,
ALL WE HAD AT LENGTH, WE HAD LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I THINK MY WIFE SHOULD HAVE SAID. 
          SHE WOULD HAVE SAID, I SHOULD HAVE PICKED THIS UP FROM THE GET GO AND NOT HURT MY BACK
BECAUSE SHE'S THE PHYSICAL THERAPIST THAT'S GOING TO TELL ME NOT TO DO THAT. BUT NOW I'VE PICKED IT UP, SO. OKAY, NOW, NOW, NOW YOU PICKED IT UP. 
          YOU DONE WELL. I'M DONE. YEAH. THANK YOU. ME? OKAY. SURE, SURE. PROCEED. COUNCIL MEMBER. THOMAS. 
          THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY GO BACK TO BOND PROGRAM. 
          IF I COULD GO BACK TO A PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE 2004 BOND PROGRAM. 
          AS YOU MIGHT BE AWARE, I'M TALKING ABOUT KALEO ROAD. 
          AND SO CRYSTAL PROVIDED ME YOUR THE PDF OF THE WHOLE TIMELINE OF THAT PROJECT. 
          AND CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW WELL WE'RE TRACKING WITH,
WITH THAT TIMELINE AND WHEN YOU EXPECT THAT THAT ROAD'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, YOUR EQUIPMENT'S TURN THAT ROAD INTO A DIRT ROAD. 
          AND SO MY MY NEIGHBOR WITH HER MINI COOPERS,
AFRAID TO GO ACROSS THAT THING, AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND SHE DOESN'T. 
          WHERE WERE WE AT WITH THAT? AND THEN WHAT? WHAT ARE YOUR. 
          CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT? JUST FOR THE. 
          YES, SIR. I'M SAYING IF I HAVE MY NOTES HERE. 
          LET'S SEE. IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THESE ARE. 
          THIS IS JUST DESIGN INFORMATION I KNOW THAT WE ARE TRACKING ON. 
          [02:20:03]
WE ARE ON SCHEDULE WITH THAT PROJECT. I KNOW THAT WE RUN INTO YOU KNOW,
RIGHT AT THE BRIDGE. 
          WE'VE HAD TO CLOSE A LOT OF THAT ROADWAY DOWN IN SECTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE JUST IN A TIGHT
CORRIDOR, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE THAT BIG OF EQUIPMENT WHERE WE'RE DIGGING DEEP FOR THESE
UTILITIES TO GET THEM ALL INSTALLED AND, AND STILL TRY TO KEEP TRAFFIC. IT IT JUST WASN'T A SAFE CONDITION. 
          BUT WE ARE TRACKING ON SCHEDULE WITH THAT PROJECT,
AND I DON'T HAVE THE COMPLETION SCHEDULE IN FRONT OF ME TO TO TELL YOU WHEN IT WILL BE COMPLETE. BUT I BELIEVE IF I'M IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN,
IT WILL BE LATE NEXT YEAR OR EARLY IN 27, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. OKAY, I THINK I THINK THE PDF WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND Q3 26,
AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF ONE OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME AND AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK. 
          AND AS WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED. YEAH. AND SO AND I KNOW YOU'RE,
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S ABOUT THAT MUCH SOIL AND THEN 30FT OF WHITE BEDROCK THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO DRILL A JACKHAMMER THROUGH TO PUT THOSE WASTEWATER PIPES,
YOU KNOW, THE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM. 
          AND SO IT'S IT'S QUITE A PROJECT. AND WE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS AS COMPLETE AS QUICKLY
AS POSSIBLE. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT WITH ANY PROJECT, ANY STREET PROJECT IN ANY DISTRICT,
IT'S THE UTILITY COMPANIES ARE OUT THERE PRIOR TO US GETTING OUT THERE. 
          SO THESE PEOPLE ARE INCONVENIENCED NOT ONLY FROM OUR CONSTRUCTION AND HOW LONG IT TAKES
FOR OUR PROJECTS, BUT THE YEAR LEADING UP TO THAT AND SOMETIMES A YEAR AND A HALF LEADING UP TO THAT. 
          THERE ARE UTILITIES RELOCATING THE WHOLE TIME OUT THERE. 
          SO THERE ARE INCONVENIENCES EVEN BEFORE WE GET THERE. 
          AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THESE COMPLETED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND I ALSO WANT TO OFFER MY COMPLIMENTS TO YOUR CREW OUT THERE. 
          WHEN PEOPLE NEED TO GET BY, THEY STOP. THEY WAVE THE FLAG PEOPLE THROUGH. 
          AND SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY HOLDING UP PEOPLE. THEY'RE DOING A LOT. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN THE ALLEYS OFF OF THERE TO GO,
TO GO TO THEIR DRIVEWAY. 
          AND SO SO IF THAT HAPPENS, I'VE SEEN IT MYSELF AND EXPERIENCED IT MYSELF ABOUT HOW
ATTENTIVE TO WHAT'S COMING AT THEM. 
          TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY STAYS SAFE. AND SO I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE CREW ON THAT,
THANKING THEIR DILIGENCE TO KEEP KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THE PUBLIC AS THEY GO THROUGH THAT, THAT CONSTRUCTION AREA. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE THERE,
I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THESE ITEMS? WELL THEN I WOULD SAY INVITE ALL THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT WITH US SATURDAY MORNING AT 9
A.M.. 
          WE'LL HAVE A GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          WE'RE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THE LAST OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS FOR THE CFP. 
          I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING, THAT WE'RE GETTING SO FAR THROUGH THAT WE'RE
CHECKING ITEMS OFF OUR LEFT LIST LEFT AND RIGHT. 
          SO THIS WILL BE A BIG MILESTONE. THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE SENIOR CENTER. 
          SO COME JOIN US SATURDAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTERS 26 AND 32. 
          [7. Amendments to Chapters 26 and 32 of the Code of Ordinances - Short-term Rentals]
THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          MR. ENGLAND. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I'M GLAD THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS
TWO WEEKS AGO AND SOME OF THE LEGAL PARAMETERS AND SOME OF THE CASE LAW UPDATES. I'M GOING TO GO BACK OVER THOSE JUST AS A REMINDER. 
          AND THERE'S A QUICK REVIEW FOR THE PUBLIC WHERE WE ARE SOME OF THE QUICK HISTORY. 
          I PROMISE IT'LL BE BRIEF, SOME QUICK HISTORY ABOUT OUR REGULATORY REGULATION OF STRS IN
GARLAND. 
          THAT IS, SHORT TERM RENTALS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT IN 2019 WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE
DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO STEP OUT AND AND EXPRESSLY REGULATE STRS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO OUR OTHER SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL RENTAL PERMITS. 
          I MEAN, WE DID SEVERAL DIFFERENT REGULATIONS,
BUT THIS COUNCIL TOOK A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO THE REGULATIONS, AND THERE WAS GOOD REASON FOR THAT. AT THAT TIME AND STILL REALLY IN SOME CASES TODAY,
A LOT TODAY, ACTUALLY, THE CURRENT STATE OF LITIGATION IS CONFUSING AND STILL UP IN THE AIR. 
          AND PART OF THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN OUR SUPREME COURT IN TEXAS HAS REFUSED TO REALLY ANSWER
THE QUESTIONS ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT ARE THE CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE IN REGARD TO REGULATING STRESS. 
          AND THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S BETTER SERVED RIGHT NOW THAT THE INTERMEDIATE COURT OF APPEALS
DECIDE SOME OF THESE ISSUES BEFORE THEY START ADDRESSING IT. AND THEY SAID AS MUCH IN THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE CASE,
WHERE THE CITY OF GRAPEVINE STR ORDINANCE WAS CHALLENGED BY MR. MUNS AND THE MUNS FAMILY AND BASICALLY THE THE THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE NOW IN TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST REGULATE THESE WHEN WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPACT THAT IS THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT THEY
HAVE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          [02:25:07]
AND STILL TO THIS DAY WHATEVER WE DO, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME RISK INVOLVED IN THIS. 
          COUNCIL NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT TYPICALLY WHEN WE PASS ORDINANCES,
OUR OFFICE LIKES TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME, SOME NOT GUARANTEES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES IN THE LAW,
UNFORTUNATELY. 
          BUT WE LIKE TO GIVE YOU STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          IN THIS CASE THERE'S RISK ASSOCIATED WITH WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO JUST BECAUSE OF THE
POSITION THAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS DECIDED TO TAKE ON THIS THUS FAR. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME INTERMEDIATE COURT OF APPEALS LITIGATION THAT HAVE HAVE SOME HOLDINGS THAT
HAVE BEEN BOTH UNFAVORABLE AND FAVORABLE TO CITY. AND SO THE, THE ONE THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE MOST WITH THIS COUNCIL
AND INCLUDING BACK IN 2019 WAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN CASE. 
          THIS IS THE CASE WHERE THE CITY OF AUSTIN TOOK A VERY AGGRESSIVE APPROACH AT REGULATING
THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AND AS OFTEN AS THE CASE, THERE'S A SAYING IN LAW THAT SAYS BAD FACTS MAKE BAD LAW. 
          THEY PASS REGULATIONS THAT WERE VERY AGGRESSIVE IN THE COURT OF APPEALS DOWN IN AUSTIN DID
NOT LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEY REMINDED EVERYONE ACROSS THE STATE AS AN INITIAL SHOT OVER THE BOW. 
          ANYWAY, BEFORE ANY OTHER COURT OF APPEALS HAD A CHANCE TO DECIDE SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT
UNDER TEXAS, UNDER THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION, THE RIGHT TO LEASE YOUR PROPERTY,
THE RIGHT TO LEASE REAL PROPERTY IN TEXAS IS ONE OF THE STICKS THAT'S PART OF THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF BEING A PROPERTY OWNER IN TEXAS. 
          AND SO HAVING SAID THAT, WE NOW KNOW THAT THAT FUNDAMENTAL PROPERTY,
RIGHT, IS PROTECTED BY THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION. 
          AND THE COURT ALSO DETERMINED THAT THE CITY HAD FAILED IN MANY WAYS TO DEMONSTRATE THE
NEED AND THE GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST IN SOME OF THE REGULATIONS THEY PUT IN PLACE. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THEME THROUGHOUT SOME OF THESE CASES WHERE THE COURTS HAVE BEEN REALLY
HARD ON CITIES AND REALLY MADE SURE THAT CITIES BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT THEIR GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSE IS AND WHAT THE GOVERNMENTAL NEED IS IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT IT'S A
FUNDAMENTAL PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT. SO THE CITY OF AUSTIN CASE WAS A BAD CASE FOR US. 
          HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE THE ARLINGTON CASE. THIS ACTUALLY IS A IS A CASE WHERE THE FORT WORTH
COURT OF APPEALS UPHELD ARLINGTON'S STRT ORDINANCE. AND YOU CAN SEE IN SOME OF ARLINGTON'S STRT ORDINANCE,
YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON IN OURS THAT WE HAVE UP TO THIS POINT HAVE NOT PUT IN PLACE. SOME OF THOSE ARE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES. 
          WHEN PUTTING A TIME LIMIT ON WHEN YOU CAN ASSEMBLE OUTSIDE,
SOME OF IT IS ALSO WITH THE ARLINGTON CASE, THE ON STREET PARKING AND SEVERAL OTHER ELEMENTS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN OUR ORDINANCE TONIGHT
IS A IS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT ARLINGTON DID. THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES,
BUT IT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT ARLINGTON DID. 
          AND WE'VE KIND OF MIMICKED THAT WITH, WITH WITH A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS IN OUR ORDINANCE
THAT I'M PRESENTING TONIGHT. 
          NOW, THERE WAS A CASE THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN PUT A SLIDE IN YET BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY,
IT CAME OUT IN THE LAST 30 DAYS. 
          I MISSED THE DALLAS CASE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
WAS, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE DALLAS COURT OF APPEALS GOING TO LAND ON THIS. 
          WE KNOW WHAT THE AUSTIN COURT OF APPEALS DID. WE KNOW WHAT THE FORT WORTH COURT OF APPEALS
DID, BUT WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT DALLAS WAS. IT TURNS OUT ABOUT TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AGO. 
          THREE WEEKS AGO, THE DALLAS COURT OF APPEALS ACTUALLY REVIEWED A DALLAS ORDINANCE THAT WAS
CHALLENGED BY A PROPERTY OWNER. 
          ASKED FOR AN INJUNCTION AGAINST THE DALLAS ORDINANCE. 
          THE TRIAL COURT AGREED THAT INJUNCTION WAS IN ORDER. 
          AND THEN THE APPELLATE COURT IN THE DALLAS CASE ALSO AGREED,
AND THEY ENJOINED DALLAS FROM ENFORCING THEIR ORDINANCE AND SOME OF THIS STUFF THAT THEY HAVE IN THAT WITH STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING IN OURS. 
          SO BUT THE PROBLEM WITH SOMETIMES REVIEWING DALLAS ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN OVERTURNED BY
COURTS ISN'T THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT THE DECISION ITSELF THAT THAT DRIVES US, OR THAT INFORMS US OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROVISION IS A GOOD PROVISION OR NOT,
BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S WHAT YOU PRESENT TO THE COURT AND THE FACTS YOU PRESENT TO THE COURT IN THE CASE YOU MAKE TO THE COURT. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE,
THE DALLAS COURT OF APPEALS WENT OUT OF ITS WAY TO SAY THAT LISTEN TO THE CITY. 
          YOU DIDN'T PRESENT FACTS. YOU DIDN'T DEMONSTRATE TO THIS COURSE THE COURT SUFFICIENTLY THE
GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST IN REGULATING THIS FUNDAMENTAL PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT. AND SO THEY DIDN'T BUILD A STRONG ENOUGH CASE. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE A STRONG ENOUGH FACTS. AND SO SOME OF THAT MAY HAVE BEEN LAWYERING AND
SOME OF IT THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE FACTS TOGETHER. 
          AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FACTS THAT ARE SIMILAR IN OUR ORDINANCE AS THEY WERE
IN DALLAS ORDINANCE. 
          SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, THE ONE THAT WE'RE THAT Y'ALL ARE POTENTIALLY
AMENDING TONIGHT. 
          [02:30:08]
IT'S PRIMARILY DRIVEN ON THIS IDEA OF PROHIBITED CONDUCT,
AND THAT'S CONDUCT THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR ORDINANCES. 
          BUT WE'RE SAYING THAT LISTEN, FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS,
IF YOU DO VIOLATIONS OF THESE PARTICULAR ACTS, THEN THIS IS GOING TO BE USED AGAINST YOU AND YOUR PERMITTING,
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE TAKE THESE ACTS AND ACTUALLY SUSPEND YOUR PERMIT, IF NOT REVOKE YOUR PERMIT. AND WE DID THAT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS,
BECAUSE ONE, THERE'S THIS CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE ABOUT PASSING A LAW THAT'S RETROACTIVE, AND IT TYPICALLY APPLIES TO FINANCIAL INTEREST INVESTMENTS OR CONTRACTS,
CURRENT CONTRACTS, AND SO DOING PROHIBITED CONTACT CONDUCT FOR LAWS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE BEFORE THE
SHORT TERM RENTAL BUSINESS MODEL BECAME POPULAR. IT AVOIDS THAT RETRO ACTIVE LAW CONSTITUTIONAL CLAIM BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY
AGAINST THE LAW. 
          THESE ACTS WERE ALREADY AGAINST THE LAW. WE'RE TALKING LOUD NOISES,
PARKING VIOLATIONS, OTHER NUISANCE CLAIMS LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO GETTING TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT AND THAT Y'ALL I BRIEFLY
SHOWED Y'ALL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, ONE OF THOSE IS AT A MINIMUM OF TWO DAY STAYS TO THE ORDINANCE. 
          THIS IS ONE THAT WAS IN THE DALLAS ORDINANCE THAT THE COURT BRIEFLY MENTIONED. 
          AND I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE STILL RECOMMENDING THIS,
BUT ADDING THIS POSSIBLY TO THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT INSTEAD OF DOING IT IN THE MAIN THE MAIN BODY OF THE ORDINANCE. AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS,
I DON'T KNOW, IT'S RISKY TO KEEP IT IN THERE, CONSIDERING THE DALLAS COURT JUST LOOKED AT THIS AND THEY DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY THIS IS
WHY THEY WERE ENJOYING THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE DALLAS ORDINANCE, BUT IT WAS A COMPONENT THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THIS. 
          BUT I'M ALSO COMFORTABLE WITH LEAVING IT WHERE IT IS AS WELL. 
          AND AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHALLENGE US ON IT,
THEN THEY CAN CHALLENGE US ON IT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, THE SECOND ONE IS AMEND THE SUSPENSION OF PERMITS TO INCLUDE FAILURE
TO APPEAR WITH CONVICTIONS. 
          SO CURRENTLY, IF YOU GET THREE CONVICTIONS OF THE PROHIBITED CONDUCT AT A LOCATION,
THEN WE CAN SUSPEND YOUR SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMIT. 
          IT. THE PROBLEM WE'RE RUNNING INTO, OF COURSE,
IS HOO HOO. 
          WE'RE STAYING IN THESE STARS AND RECEIVING CITATIONS FOR LOUD MUSIC OR UNLAWFUL PARKING,
OR FOR YOU NAME SEVERAL OTHER VIOLATIONS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED PUBLIC NUISANCES. IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO TOWN AND VISITING AND
THEN LEAVING TOWN. 
          THEY RECEIVE A CITATION. THEY LEAVE TOWN MANY TIMES,
GO BACK OUT OF STATE. 
          AND SO WE NEVER CAN COLLECT ON THOSE FINES, AND WE CAN NEVER GET CONVICTIONS OUT OF THERE
BECAUSE THEY NEVER SHOW UP. 
          AND SO AS A RESULT, I'VE RECOMMENDED THAT WE AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE THE FAILURE TO
APPEAR WITH CONVICTIONS. 
          AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE OFFICER HAS PROBABLE CAUSE TO WRITE THE TICKET THAT A VIOLATION
OCCURRED. 
          AND IF THEY DON'T SHOW UP FOR COURT, THEN THAT'S GOING TO COUNT AS A STRIKE AGAINST THEM. 
          THEY GET THREE STRIKES AND WE'RE ABLE TO SUSPEND THEIR PERMITS. 
          THEN WE TALKED ABOUT COMPLIANCE AGREEMENTS. IN THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENTS,
YOU MIGHT ASK, WELL, WHY COMPLIANCE AGREEMENTS? IT IS TRUE. THAT THIS COUNCIL COULD BE A LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE
WITH OUR STARS. 
          IF Y'ALL WANTED TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE, THEN Y'ALL CERTAINLY HAVE THAT OPTION. 
          THE STRENGTH OF A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT IS THAT IT IS A STRONG FORM OF DUE PROCESS. 
          THAT IS JUST BECAUSE YOU GET THREE VIOLATIONS. 
          INSTEAD OF PULLING THE PERMIT IMMEDIATELY, WE CAN PUT YOU ON A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT AND
GET YOU TO AGREE TO SOME STRICTER REGULATIONS, RECOGNIZING THAT YOU'VE BEEN A PROBLEM FROM PROPERTY,
YOU'VE BEEN A BAD ACTOR, AND MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN IN SOME CASES, MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN AN ABSENTEE LANDOWNER. A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT WILL GET YOU TO SIGN AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT SAYS, I'M GOING TO. I RECOGNIZE THESE PROBLEMS HAVE OCCURRED ON THE PROPERTY,
AND I'M AGREEING TO BRING MY PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE, AND I'M GOING TO FOLLOW THESE REGULATIONS IN ORDER TO DO IT. 
          THAT'S A REALLY STRONG FORM OF DUE PROCESS THAT'S HARD TO CHALLENGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A
PROPERTY OWNER AGREEING WITH THE CITY THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM, AND ALSO THAT THEY'RE AGREEING TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          IT ALSO TARGETS PROBLEM PROPERTIES. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT BEING APPLIED EQUALLY ACROSS THE
THE CITY. 
          IT'S TAKING THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BAD ACTORS THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH. 
          AND AND THAT'S GOOD FOR RESOURCES BECAUSE THIS MEANS THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
AND OUR BUILDING INSPECTORS AND OUR MARSHALS AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO AROUND LOOKING AT THE 200 DIFFERENT STARS THAT
ARE LOCATED IN THE CITY TO LOOK FOR THESE VIOLATIONS. 
          THEY CAN FOCUS ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BAD PROPERTIES AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ON THOSE
PROPERTIES AND FOCUS THEIR ATTENTION ON THOSE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR RESOURCES ARE LIMITED WHEN IT COMES TO BOTH PROSECUTING THESE
CASES, BUT ALSO ENFORCING THESE ORDINANCES. AND AGAIN,
THE THIRD POINT IS REALLY RELATED TO THE FIRST AGREEMENT WITH REGULATIONS REDUCES 
          [02:35:07]
LITIGATION RISK. AND OF COURSE. THE FOURTH POINT KIND OF TIES INTO THE SECOND,
WHICH IT EASES ENFORCEMENT AND RESOURCES THAT BURDEN THAT BURDENS ACROSS THE CITY. SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS THAT WE AVOIDED LAST TIME THAT I'M
RECOMMENDING THAT WE PUT IN THIS TIME. 
          RIGHT NOW, ARLINGTON CURRENTLY LIMITS IT TO 12 PERSONS OCCUPYING AN STR AT ANY ONE TIME. 
          FOURTH COURT OF APPEALS HELD THAT THAT REGULATION WAS RATIONALLY RELATED TO OBJECTIVES
WITHIN THE CITY'S POLICE POWERS. 
          HOWEVER, DALLAS ORDINANCE DID THE SAME. 12 PERSONS OCCUPYING IN THE DALLAS COURT OF
APPEALS SAID JUST THREE WEEKS AGO THAT IT WASN'T THAT DALLAS FAILED TO PROVE THAT THEY THEY FAILED TO PRESENT EVIDENCE THAT IT WAS. 
          AND SO THAT COULD MEAN THE DALLAS COURT OF APPEALS WAS SAYING THAT,
YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TOO FAR. 
          OR IT COULD MEAN THAT Y'ALL DIDN'T SHOW US ENOUGH. 
          Y'ALL COULD HAVE SHOWN US MORE. AND SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO TELL WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IN THAT
CASE. 
          BUT THE PROPOSAL BEFORE Y'ALL IS THAT AN AMENDMENT WILL LIMIT OCCUPANCY TO TEN PERSONS ON
THE PROPERTY. 
          KEEP IN MIND THE OCCUPANCY LIMITS ARE PART OF THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. 
          AND SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN BAD ACTORS. 
          AND SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE DISTINCT FROM BOTH FORT WORTH AND FROM DALLAS. 
          AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ANOTHER CITY THAT'S BEEN TAKING THIS APPROACH. AND THAT
REALLY HELPS US IF WE WERE TO BE CHALLENGED ON THIS. 
          THE SECOND ONE THAT WE AVOIDED LAST TIME WAS PARKING LIMITS. 
          AGAIN, ARLINGTON AND OTHER CITIES, NOT JUST ARLINGTON,
I THINK RILEY'S INCLUDED. 
          THEY PROHIBIT ANY ON STREET PARKING FOR VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH STRS. 
          AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THIS IS FOR THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. THIS IS FOR BAD PROPERTIES. 
          THIS ISN'T JUST FOR ANYBODY. SO IF THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT'S HAVING PROBLEMS WITH PARKING, THEN A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT MIGHT BE THE RIGHT VEHICLE TO GET THEM IN COMPLIANCE AND GET
THE VEHICLES OFF THE STREET. 
          COURTS HAVE NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE. 
          I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH IT. I THINK IT'S A VERY LOW RISK ISSUE TO PUT IN THERE A LOW
RISK AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE TO PUT IN THERE TO REGULATE THE PROPER PROBLEMS YOU HAVE AT SOME OF THESE STORES WHERE THEY'RE HAVING PARTIES AND 30 CARS ARE PARKED UP IN THE UP
AND DOWN THE STREET. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WE DIDN'T DO LAST TIME,
AND THIS WAS BECAUSE OF THE AUSTIN COURT OF APPEALS. 
          IT'S OUTSIDE CURFEW. THIS IS ONE THAT WHEN AUSTIN LOOKED AT THIS BACK IN 2019 THEY SAID,
NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE. 
          THEY HAVE A FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY AND OF ASSOCIATION. 
          AND SO THE AUSTIN COURT OF APPEALS STRUCK IT DOWN. 
          HOWEVER, THE ARLINGTON COURT, THE ARLINGTON,
THEY DO PROHIBIT OUTSIDE ACTIVITIES BETWEEN 9 P.M. 
          AND AM 9 A.M. IN THE FORT WORTH COURT OF APPEALS UPHELD THAT SAYING THAT,
OKAY. 
          YEAH, IT'S IT'S RATIONALLY RELATED TO OBJECTIVES WITHIN THE CITY'S POLICE POWERS. 
          DALLAS COURT OF APPEALS DID NOT ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE. 
          AND SO I'M RECOMMENDED 9 P.M. TO 9 A.M.. AND THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO YOU
ALL FOR PASSAGE TOMORROW. 
          WHEN THAT STAR IS A BAD ACTOR AND PLACED IN A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT AGAIN,
THAT'S JUST ANOTHER TOOL THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL HAVE TO USE AGAINST THESE PROBLEM PROPERTIES. AND THEN MINIMUM LEASING TERMS. THIS IS ONE WHERE DALLAS AND EULESS REQUIRE MINIMUM LEASING TERMS OF TWO KNOTS. 
          AGAIN THOUGH, DALLAS AS WE KNOW NOW, THREE WEEKS AGO THE COURT DIDN'T LIKE THEIR ORDINANCE
FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          THIS WASN'T SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED, BUT IT COULD BE A PROBLEM. 
          BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THE IDEA IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY,
THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF LEASING THAT YOU CAN DO IS FOR TWO NIGHTS. 
          THE IDEA IS TO KEEP THAT ONE NIGHT SHOW UP TRANSITORY PARTY FROM SHOWING UP,
THROWING A LOUD PARTY, AND THEN LEAVING THE NEXT DAY AND KIND OF LEAVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DISTURBING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 24 HOURS. 
          WORDS HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE EXCEPT TWO WEEKS AGO. THEY DID. DALLAS DID
THREE WEEKS AGO. 
          AND SO IT'S A QUESTION MARK. THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE REQUIRES A MINIMUM 40 HOUR LEASE
PERIOD. 
          CURRENTLY, THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED TO Y'ALL, IT'S NOT IN THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. 
          IT'S JUST A CHANGE. STRAIGHT UP. IF YOU OWN AN STR,
THEN YOUR MINIMUM LEASING TERM, WE CAN PUT THAT. 
          IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE, THE LESS RISKY APPROACH IS PLACING AS PART OF A COMPLIANCE
AGREEMENT AND NOT DOING IT JUST THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL CAN GIVE ME DIRECTION ON TONIGHT. 
          AND AGAIN, THERE'S ONE OTHER THING THAT'S NOT THAT I DIDN'T PRESENT LAST TIME,
BUT I FOUND DOING SOME RESEARCH SINCE THE LAST TIME I TALKED WITH YOU ALL. 
          AND THAT IS THERE ARE ACTUALLY PRODUCTS OUT THERE NOW,
COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT SELL SOUND MONITORING, MONITORING DEVICES TO PUT ON FENCES AT SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          IN FACT, THAT'S THEIR MARKETING. AND SO I'M RECOMMENDED AS PART OF THE COMPLIANCE
AGREEMENT THAT THAT WE REQUIRED NOISE MONITORS ALONG EACH 
          [02:40:02]
PROPERTY LINE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN IT GETS TO A CERTAIN DECIBEL LEVEL,
YOU CAN PROGRAM THOSE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN PROGRAM THOSE DECIBEL LEVELS IN THERE, AND IT WILL TEXT THE PROPERTY OWNER IN REAL TIME WHEN THEIR PROPERTIES ARE BEING TOO
NOISY. 
          AND THAT PUTS THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THOSE THAT ARE ABSENTEES OR LIVING IN OTHER CITIES OR
LIVING IN OTHER STATES. 
          IT GIVES THEM SKIN IN THE GAME TO UNDERSTAND THAT LISTENING. 
          IT'S NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE BEING DISTURBED HERE,
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO START BEING DISTURBED SO WE CAN ACTUALLY ACQUIRE THEM, MONITOR IT IN REAL TIME, AND THEN EVERY MONTH OR SO, WE CAN REQUIRE THEM TO GIVE US DATA TO SEE HOW THE
WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WRITE ANY NOISE VIOLATIONS BASED ON THESE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE CALIBRATED. 
          WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE DATA BEHIND IT OR THE THE ELECTRONICS BEHIND IT. 
          BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN USE IT AS ANOTHER DATA SET OF DATA TO WHERE WE CAN SEE,
OKAY, GIVE US THE DATA WE'RE HEARING. THERE'S BEEN NOISE COMPLAINTS. GIVE US THE DATA FOR THE
LAST 30 DAYS, AND THEY CAN DO THAT. SO I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE REQUIRE THOSE FOR THESE PROPERTIES. SO THAT HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM. AND BAD ACTORS,
ESPECIALLY WHEN THOSE NOISE COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS ARE PART OF THAT PROPERTY. 
          AS THEY REPORT THOSE TO THE CITIES. THAT'S IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS ARE COMING IN. 
          I MISS THE BEEPS THAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD WERE,
YOU KNOW. 
          OH, I CAN HEAR Y'ALL COMING IN. COMING AT ME WITH US. 
          OH, WE GOT WE GOT A FULL SLATE HERE, COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON OKAY. 
          SO I THINK THAT A LOT OF OUR PROBLEM IS ONE THAT WE STARTED OFF BEING CONSERVATIVE. 
          OKAY. THAT HAS GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          WE ARE CONSISTENTLY PUTTING OURSELVES IN A REACTIVE STANCE INSTEAD OF BEING PROACTIVE. 
          SO I THINK THAT CONTINUING ALONG WITH THIS CONSERVATIVE,
WE DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYONE'S FEELINGS. 
          MODE IS CRAP LIKE IT. IT IS TRYING TO REGULATE A A VISITOR AT AN STR IS INSANE. WHAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON IS GOING AFTER THE OWNERS OF THESE STORES TO GIVE
THEM THAT LITTLE KICK IN THE REAR. 
          ON WHY YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE QUALITY PEOPLE STAYING IN THIS STR,
WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO GET ON THE CITY'S BAD SIDE. 
          LIKE I'VE GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT CITIES ALL THROUGH TEXAS. 
          OKAY, ROULETTE CURRENTLY THEY IN APRIL THEY JUST PASSED THEIR AMENDMENT. 
          THEY REQUIRE A $2,000 PERMIT FOR AN STR. THAT IS A YEARLY FEE. 
          WHAT ARE WE CURRENTLY CHARGED FOR IS TIERS. SO IF I'M PAYING $2,000 A YEAR OKAY,
THAT'S MORE EXPENSE OUT OF MY POCKET. 
          THAT IS MORE REASON FOR ME TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM VETTING THE PEOPLE THAT I'M ALLOWING TO
STAY IN MY STRT. 
          MOST CITIES ALSO REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 1000 OR $1 MILLION INSURANCE POLICY,
FOR INSTANCE, AT THAT, AT THAT PROPERTY. WE HAVE NOTHING LIKE THAT IN OUR CURRENT CODE. 
          SO I'VE SEEN LET'S SEE THE INSPECTIONS AND INITIAL INSPECTION INSPECTIONS UPON COMPLAINTS
OR SUSPICION OF VIOLATIONS. ALL VIOLATIONS ARE BETWEEN 500 AND $2000 PER VIOLATION PER DAY. 
          REVOCATION OF YOUR PERMIT WITH THREE VIOLATIONS IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD. 
          YOU CANNOT REAPPLY FOR 12 MONTHS. THAT'S IN ROCKWALL. 
          THEY DO NOT ALLOW NO SEX OFFENDERS. THEY REQUIRE BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR EACH PERSON STAYING
IN THAT STR. 
          I MEAN, IT'S WE HAVE A PLETHORA OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO PROTECT OURSELVES AND TO
PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT DOING IT. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE PISSED BECAUSE WE ALLOW THE
RIFFRAFF. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT BEING CONSERVATIVE IS DOING. SAM MARCUS THEY DON'T. 
          THEY ONLY ALLOW ONE STR PER BLOCK OR 660FT IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. 
          THE CITY OF PLANO ONLY ALLOWS STRS WITHIN DESIGNATED ZONES. 
          SO IF WE DON'T STEP UP OUR GAME, AT SOME POINT,
WE'RE GOING TO JUST KEEP DOING THIS AND KEEP DOING IT AND KEEP DOING IT. 
          AND IF YOU LIKE GETTING DIRTY EMAILS ABOUT PEOPLE MAD ABOUT STRS,
COOL. 
          WE'LL SIT BACK AND WE'LL KEEP BEING CONSERVATIVE. 
          OTHERWISE WE NEED TO WE NEED TO PUT OUR BIG BOY PANTS ON AND LET'S NIP IT IN THE BUD NOW
AND HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. 
          SO THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER BASS, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU BRIAN. AND I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON THAT I FEEL THAT OUR
OUR POLICIES SO FAR HAVE BEEN A LITTLE TOO RISK AVERSE. 
          [02:45:03]
I WOULD HONESTLY LIKE TO SEE THIS COUNCIL AS A WHOLE TAKE MORE RISKS ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT
ISSUES. 
          THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY. BUT FOR THIS ONE, FOR EXAMPLE,
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DEBATE AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE ABOUT REGULATING STRS AT ALL. AND I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE,
AND I'M GOING TO MENTION IT AGAIN. 
          THIS IS ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS, OKAY. AND THE PROPERTY RIGHTS COME WITH ZONING,
RIGHT? EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THIS CITY HAS ZONING. 
          AND, BRIAN, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT'S THE ZONING WHERE THESE STORES ARE
LOCATED? THE ZONING, WHERE THESE STORES ARE LOCATED ARE RESIDENTIAL ZONING. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AUSTIN COURT OF APPEALS ACTUALLY LOOKED AT IS THE ZONING
ASPECT OF IT AND WHAT AUSTIN COURT OF APPEALS SAID. 
          THIS IS NOT THE SUPREME COURT. THIS ISN'T DALLAS. 
          THIS ISN'T FORT WORTH. THIS IS AUSTIN. WHAT THEY SAID WAS THAT STARS ARE MORE SIMILAR IN
NATURE TO A RESIDENTIAL USE THAN THEY ARE A COMMERCIAL USE, OR A MULTIFAMILY USE. THAT WAS THEIR ANALYSIS. 
          WELL, THEY'RE WRONG ABOUT THAT. ABSOLUTELY. IT IS A IT'S IT'S IT'S A HOTEL. 
          IT SHOULD BE REGULATED. NO, NO. ABSOLUTELY. THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY 100% WRONG. 
          ANY REPRESENTATIVE FROM AUSTIN WANTS TO ARGUE THAT WITH ME. 
          FEEL FREE TO CALL ME. NO. THIS IS A HOTEL. THIS IS NOT. 
          THIS IS. THAT'S WHAT SHORT TERM MEANS, RIGHT? THE WORD SHORT TERM IS IN THERE. IT'S NOT CORPORATE RENTAL. 
          IT'S NOT SIX MONTH RENTAL. IT'S NOT SIGN A NINE MONTH LEASE. 
          IT'S SHORT TERM. WE'RE EVEN TALKING ABOUT TWO DAY MINIMUMS,
RIGHT. 
          THAT SHORT TERM THAT IS A HOTEL. MY RESIDENTIAL ZONING WHERE I LIVE,
THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW HOTELS TO BE NEXT DOOR TO MY HOUSE. OKAY. THEN SORRY, MY NOTES CLOSED ON ME HERE. 
          SOME THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, I LIKE. I LIKE THE THINGS ON HERE. 
          NOW, MIND YOU, I AM ALSO. I'M OKAY WITH PUTTING MOST OF THIS STUFF UNDER A COMPLIANCE
AGREEMENT, BECAUSE IF PEOPLE AREN'T BOTHERING THEIR NEIGHBORS,
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE ON THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT,
SO I WOULD BE OKAY ON PUTTING MOST OF THESE ITEMS ON ON THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. 
          SOME THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, THOUGH. ALSO,
I FEEL THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ISSUES AND THIS IS REALLY KIND OF RELATED TO THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD THREE HOUSES IN DISTRICT ONE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE PUT TEN
BEDROOMS IN A HOUSE. 
          THEY'VE JUST GONE IN UNPERMITTED SPLIT ROOMS UP AND MADE TEN BEDROOMS IN A HOUSE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND PART OF WHAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM CODE IS THAT,
WELL, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE IT. 
          WE CAN'T GO INSIDE THE HOUSE, THAT KIND OF THING. WELL,
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE AN INTERIOR INSPECTION SCHEDULE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMITS. YOU HAVE TO RENEW THE PERMIT EVERY YEAR. 
          EVERY YEAR IS A PART OF THAT PERMITTING PROCESS IS GOING TO BE AN INTERIOR INSPECTION. 
          I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE ANY UNPERMITTED ACTIVITY THAT'S TAKEN
PLACE, WHETHER WHATEVER IT BE, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT IN TEN ROOMS,
UNPERMITTED IN THE HOUSE. 
          WELL, THAT WOULD BE GROUNDS FOR IMMEDIATELY LOSING YOUR,
YOUR PERMIT WITH, YOU KNOW, NO CHANCE TO REAPPLY FOR A YEAR. 
          I AGREE WE SHOULD INCREASE A PERMIT FEE. WE SHOULD REQUIRE A LARGE INSURANCE POLICY. 
          I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. WE DON'T REQUIRE THE INSURANCE. 
          I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST SHOULD BE A GIVEN RIGHT THERE. 
          DO WE CURRENTLY REQUIRE THE PROPERTY OWNER INFORMATION AND CITY CONTACT INFORMATION ON THE
FRONT DOOR? YES. OKAY, SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S PARKING LIMITS THAT NEED TO BE ENFORCED,
A NEIGHBOR COULD JUST GO TO THE FRONT DOOR AND DIAL A PHONE NUMBER THAT'S ON THE FRONT DOOR. PERFECT. OKAY, GOOD. I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE'D GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF THAT. THAT'S ALL I
GOT. 
          I WANT TO BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE ON THIS. 
          I WILL COMPROMISE AND AGREE TO TO IT BEING MAINLY ON A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. 
          SO WE'RE NOT BOTHERING PEOPLE WHO AREN'T A PROBLEM. 
          BUT. YEAH. ANYWAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. YES. SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAVE ABOUT THE
MINIMUM TWO DAY STAY. 
          HOW HOW IS THAT ENFORCEABLE AT ALL? I AND I HAVE THIS FRIEND IN ARLINGTON WHO WAS DOING
HER AS AS ONE THAT NEVER HAS A PROBLEM, BUT THEY'VE DECIDED THAT HE'S NOW OUTSIDE THE ZONE,
WHICH THEY'VE DRAWN AROUND THE ARLINGTON ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, BASICALLY THE THREE STADIUMS AND A MILE RADIUS AROUND THAT,
ANYTHING OUTSIDE THAT IS OUTSIDE THE AREA NOT ALLOWED. 
          AND SO IT HAD THOSE HAD TO BE LONG TERM RENTALS 30 DAYS OR MORE. 
          AND SO ALL HE DID WAS SAID, OKAY, HERE'S 30 DAYS AND YOU CAN OPT OUT AT ANY TIME WITH NO
PENALTY. 
          NO PROBLEM. SO THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN REALLY DO ABOUT. 
          THEY CAN COME IN ONE DAY AND BE OUT THE NEXT DAY. 
          SO IS THAT TWO DAY MINIMUM REALLY HELP US DO ANYTHING? IT COULD IN SOME CASES AND NOT IN EVERY CASE. 
          YOU'RE CORRECT. THERE IS A RATHER LARGE HOLE IN TRYING TO ENFORCE THAT PROVISION. 
          [02:50:03]
I KNOW FROM TALKING WITH OTHER CITIES THAT SOME OF THAT'S ENFORCED THROUGH THE AIRBNBS AND
THROUGH THE VERBOSE TO WHERE YOU CAN JUST SEE IF YOU HAVE AN ADDRESS IN YOUR CITY THAT YOU KNOWS A THAT, YOU KNOW,
AS AN STR, YOU CAN GO ON TO THE WEBSITE AND SEE HOW THEY'RE ADVERTISING IT ON THE WEBSITE. 
          YEAH. AND IF THEIR ADVERTISING IS AND AGAIN,
YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          AND MAYBE THEY HAVE A POLICY WHERE, LISTEN WE'RE ADVERTISING IS 48 HOURS MINIMUM STAY. 
          BUT IF YOU CONTACT US, YOU KNOW, 24 HOURS IN THAT YOU'RE LEAVING WILL REIMBURSE YOU. 
          WE MAY NOT EVER KNOW THAT IN THOSE SITUATIONS. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THE OTHER, OTHER THING. I WANTED THE OCCUPANCY LIMITS OF TEN. 
          HOW WOULD WE ENFORCE THAT WITH A NEIGHBOR TAKING A PICTURE SHOWING 12 PEOPLE BE IN? HOW IS THAT ENFORCEABLE? A LOT OF THAT'S ENFORCEABLE WITH THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE IF A POLICE OFFICER, MARSHAL,
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, HEALTH OFFICER GOES BY THE PROPERTY AND SEES MORE THAN TEN PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE, OR A NEIGHBOR CALLS IN AND SAY,
HEY, THERE'S A PARTY POOL PARTY GOING ON TO THIS LOCATION, AND THERE'S 30 PEOPLE BACK THERE AT THAT POINT. 
          WE KNOW THERE'S A VIOLATION AND IT CAN BE ENFORCED THAT WAY,
OR IF THERE'S A LOUD MUSIC. 
          SO REALLY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT HARD FOR A POLICE OFFICER TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR.
THE DOOR OPENS. AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN TO THESE PARTIES WHERE THEY LOOK IN, THEY CAN SEE MORE THAN TEN PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PARTY. 
          REALLY, THAT'S A PROVISION THAT KEEPS THE BIG PARTIES FROM HAPPENING. 
          OKAY. OKAY. BUT WOULD THAT BE PART OF THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT THEN? YES. THAT'S PART OF THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. YEAH. AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE MINIMUM
STAY WOULD NOT BE PART OF COMPLIANCE. 
          IT'S NOT THE WAY I'VE CURRENTLY DRAFTED IT, BUT I COULD CHANGE THAT AND PUT IT INTO THE
COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL DESIRES. 
          OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, THAT WAS KIND OF THE TWO. I'M JUST ABOUT WONDERING ABOUT ENFORCEABILITY
OF WHAT WE DO. 
          IF WE PASS A RULE AND WE CAN'T ENFORCE IT, THEN WHAT'S THE POINT? MAKE. MAKE NO MISTAKE. I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE,
AND SOME OF Y'ALL GET VERY FRUSTRATED WHEN I SAY THERE'S SOME OF THESE STARS ARE INHERENTLY DIFFICULT TO REGULATE FOR THE VERY REASONS THAT YOU BRING UP. 
          IT'S THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT ONLY DIFFICULT TO REGULATE,
THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO PROSECUTE. 
          AND SO SOMETIMES WE CAN WRITE CITATIONS, BUT WHEN WE GET THE CITATIONS OVER IN THE
COURTHOUSE, THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO PROSECUTE BECAUSE WE HAVE TROUBLE PROVING THE ELEMENTS OF THE CRIME. 
          RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. 
          IS THAT TROUBLE PROVING THAT THERE WAS TEN PEOPLE THERE? WHAT'S WHAT'S THE PROOF? WHEN YOU GET TO COURT,
DO YOU NEED A PICTURE OR WHAT? DO YOU OR JUST THE TESTIMONY? TESTIMONY OF AN OFFICER. 
          TESTIMONY OF SOMEBODY. THAT'S THEIR TESTIMONY OF A NEIGHBOR. AND SO USUALLY IT'S THE
NEIGHBOR WOULD SUFFICE. RIGHT. 
          OKAY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU BRIAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU,
MR. MAYOR. I DON'T THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST HAS BEEN CONSERVATIVE. 
          I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT I SEE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE LAWS,
RULES, GUIDELINES, ORDINANCES ON THE BOOKS ALREADY. THIS WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID WHAT WE DID
INITIALLY AND SEND YOU BACK TO THE TO THE DRAWING BOARD SO MANY TIMES, BECAUSE WE SAW THE REAL PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS ENFORCING
THOSE RULES THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE BOOK. 
          IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH NOISE, WE HAVE A WAY OF DEALING WITH IT. 
          WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRAFFIC. WE HAVE A PROBLEM,
DISTURBANCES, WHATEVER THOSE SITUATIONS ARE. 
          WE HAVE A WAY OF DEALING WITH IT. BUT IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH IT,
HOW IS IT THAT A HOUSE THAT HAS NO PERMITS CAN ADD ROOMS AND BATHROOMS, BUT NOBODY KNOWING IT? AND THEN WHEN THEY DO IT, WE DON'T HAVE A WAY OF ADDRESSING IT. 
          THERE SHOULD BE A WAY OF GOING IN THERE AND HAVING THEM TEAR THE WHOLE THING OUT. 
          IT WAS NOT APPROVED. WHEN I LOOK AT THE CASES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE AS IT RELATES TO WHAT
THE LEGISLATORS HAVE SAID TO US AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THE COURTS ARE SAYING TO US. 
          I SEE US SETTING OURSELVES UP AGAIN JUST FOR A DOUBLE LAYER OF OR FAILURE,
A DOUBLE LAYER, MEANING IF WE'RE GETTING READY TO PUT LAWS ON TOP OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE,
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE LITIGATED. 
          WE'RE GOING TO SET BRIAN AND HIS STAFF UP NOW,
HAVING TO TAKE ON CASES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ON ANYWAY IF WE WENT AHEAD AND ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE. I HEARD A LADY SPEAK THIS EVENING THAT I THOUGHT HAD SOME
VERY GOOD THOUGHTS AND IDEAS. 
          YES. WHY IS IT THAT WE ONLY CHARGE $50? IF YOU REALLY WANT TO PUT SOME TEETH INTO IT,
LET'S INCREASE. IT SHOULD BE 500 OR ABOVE. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO PUT SOME TEETH INTO IT,
MAKE THEM HAVE AN INSPECTION OF THE HOME BEFORE THEY HAVE TO, BEFORE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL. 
          [02:55:02]
WE DO THAT. OKAY. WELL, BY THE TIME THEY GET THROUGH DOING ALL OF THAT,
THAT LET'S INCREASE IT LESS. 
          BUT BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE, DOING ALL OF THAT,
THEN IF NOTHING ELSE, THEY'RE GOING TO ASSURE BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. 
          THEY ARE NOT VETTING THE PEOPLE. MAKE THEM VET THE PEOPLE AND IF THEY HAVE MONEY AT RISK,
HAVE MONEY AT STAKE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IT. I SEE AT THIS POINT THAT I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE SAYING WE WANT
TO INCREASE. 
          WE WANT TO DO THIS. WE WANT TO DO THAT. BUT IF THE LEGISLATORS ARE SAYING SOMETHING
DIFFERENT. 
          IF THE COURTS ARE SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. ALL IS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE GET READY TO
SPEND SOME MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE FIGHTING SITUATIONS THAT 55% OF IT, WE MAY NOT WIN. FOR WHAT? WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF THESE THINGS ON THE BOOKS. 
          LET'S GET OUR MARSHALS AND TELL THEM YOU NEED TO ENFORCE. 
          LET'S GET OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TOGETHER. YOU NEED TO ENFORCE. 
          SO THE WAY THAT I'M LOOKING AT IT TONIGHT IS I'M I'M CERTAINLY YOU KNOW,
I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS AT ALL BECAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE THAT IT'S GOING TO DO US ANY GOOD. ALL WE'RE DOING IS YOU'RE GETTING READY TO WRITE UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF MORE CRAZY
STUFF THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE DOING. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK HERE AGAIN DOING WHAT WE'RE
DOING. 
          LET'S PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY WHERE IT SHOULD BE ON THE HOMEOWNER. 
          WHOEVER THAT LADY WAS THAT CAME HERE EARLIER TONIGHT. AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS
THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING TO ENFORCE AND MAKE THEIR LAWS. 
          THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO PUT OUR MONEY,
PUT OUR STRATEGIES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MR. MAYOR,
CAN I ADDRESS THE FEES REAL QUICKLY, PLEASE? SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE ASSIGN AMOUNTS TO FEES. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING $50 IS ENOUGH. I, I FRANKLY DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT OUR
ADMINISTRATIVE COST WHEN IT COMES TO STR LICENSING. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OF DOING INSPECTIONS AND AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. 
          BUT YOU CAN'T OVERCHARGE FOR WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS A CITY IF YOU OVERCHARGE,
IF YOU IF YOU CHARGE TOO MUCH OF A FEE, THEN IT'S CONSIDERED A TAX AND WE CAN'T DO THAT. 
          AND SO WHATEVER FEE WE CAN I THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HEALTH CODE ENFORCEMENT,
THEY CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AS THEY MANAGE THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE OF THIS, THEY CAN DETERMINE WHAT AN APPROPRIATE FEE IS. 
          I COULDN'T TELL YOU AS A LAWYER BECAUSE I HAVEN'T I DON'T HAVE THOSE TYPE OF NUMBERS,
BUT THEY COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT. SO THERE ISN'T AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THE FEE. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE WITH THIS ORDINANCE. WE CAN DO IT AS PART OF THE AS A FEE INCREASE
MID-YEAR OR EVEN IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER THE BUDGET'S PASSED. 
          WE COULD EVEN DO IT THAT WAY. IT'S JUST IT'S WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S WISH IS. 
          BUT WE CAN'T JUST ARBITRARILY PICK A FEE. WE CAN'T DO IT AS A DETERRENT. 
          WE HAVE TO DO IT. MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RATIONALLY BASED TO WHAT COST IT'S ACTUALLY COSTING
THE CITY. 
          HOW ABOUT THE INSPECTIONS? WE DO THE INSPECTIONS ALREADY. 
          YEAH, WE DO MOST OF THE STUFF THAT SHE WAS DESCRIBING. 
          WE ALREADY DO. BUT WHAT SHE SAW IN THE ORDINANCE PRESENTED TONIGHT WAS JUST THE SECTIONS
THAT ARE BEING AMENDED. 
          SHE HASN'T SEEN THE WHOLE ORDINANCE, BUT YEAH,
WE WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST. 
          AND ALSO WHEN PEOPLE DO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT A PERMIT,
WE DO GO IN. 
          AND IN APPROPRIATE CASES, WE DO TEAR OUT SHEETROCK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN INSPECT THE
ELECTRICAL AND THE PLUMBING. 
          BUT WHAT WE CAN'T DO, THE COURTS WON'T LET US DO,
IS GO OUT AND RIP THE IMPROVEMENTS COMPLETELY OUT AND MAKE THEM START OVER. 
          ONCE THEY DO IT, WE CAN GO IN AND DO AN INSPECTION. 
          IF WE DETERMINE THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE UNSAFE,
WE CAN RIP THOSE IMPROVEMENTS OUT. 
          BUT JUST TO INSPECT THE WORK THAT WAS DONE, WE CAN FIND THEM FOR DOING THE WORK WITHOUT A
PERMIT. 
          BUT WE CAN'T JUST GO IN AND JUST TEAR OUT ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET A
PERMIT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM LUK,
THANK YOU FOR SPENDING SO MUCH TIME ON THIS. 
          I TRULY APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW THAT YOU AND I HAVE BOTH,
YOU KNOW, HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS BY 3401 REG DALE FOR A LONG TIME. 
          YES. WE HAVE. AND I DID WANT TO ASK A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          SO THE THE AMENDMENTS, AS I UNDERSTAND THEM THEY HAVE THREE VIOLATIONS WITHIN A 12 MONTH
PERIOD NOW. 
          SO THAT HAS BEEN EXTENDED FROM SIX MONTHS, FROM SIX MONTHS TO 12 MONTHS. 
          I DIDN'T CHANGE THE MONTH. SO IF IT'S ONLY SIX MONTHS AND IT'S STILL SIX MONTHS,
I DID NOT. I DID NOT EXTEND THAT. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT EXTENDING THAT TO 12 MONTHS. 
          WELL, WE CAN DO THAT HERE. CAN WE? YEAH. CAN WE DO THAT? YES. I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD GIVE THE RESIDENTS SOME MORE TEETH IF THINGS ARE CONSISTENTLY
HAPPENING. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGE. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE TO
LOOK OVER THE FEES, THE FEE AMOUNT. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR THAT TO OCCUR. 
          [03:00:04]
THAT WAY, STAFF WILL HAVE TIME TO KIND OF GATHER SOME STUFF. 
          I'LL ASK FOR THAT LATER AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND GET A SECOND FOR IT,
WHICH I'M SURE I WILL RECEIVE. 
          SO THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT IS REALLY THE PART THAT HAS THE MOST TEETH,
AND THAT COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT WILL BE INSTATED. 
          FOR HOW LONG? WE COULD DO THAT FOR A YEAR. WE COULD DO THAT FOR LONGER. 
          OKAY. IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL, AND THEY HAVE TEN DAYS TO GO MEET WITH THE CODE DIRECTOR OR
FILE AN APPEAL TO IMPLEMENT THAT COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. IF THEY DON'T, THEN THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC REVOCATION OF THE PERMIT. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS IS IF THERE'S IF THERE'S THREE VIOLATIONS,
WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO SUSPEND THE PERMIT. WE THE PERMIT GETS SUSPENDED. 
          WE SEND THEM A LETTER SAYS YOUR PERMIT SUSPENDED CEASE OPERATIONS. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE TEN DAYS TO EITHER A APPEAL THAT SUSPENSION TO THE PROPERTY STANDARDS
BOARD OR GO MEET WITH THE YEAH. 
          CO-DIRECTOR AND GET UNDER A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT AND SIGN A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT UNTIL
THEY DO ONE OF THOSE THINGS. 
          IN FACT, UNTIL THE PROPERTY STANDARD BOARD OVERTURNS IT,
THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUSPENDED. 
          SO THE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD AS AS A PRACTICAL MATTER WOULD BE THE LONGER PROCESS FOR
THE PROPERTY OWNER, BECAUSE IT'LL TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD TOGETHER TO MEET. 
          YOU HAVE TO POST IT AND THEN. SO THAT'S PROBABLY A MONTH PROGRESS 30 DAYS. 
          THEY CAN MEET WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, DIRECT THE DIRECTOR OF CODE WITHIN TEN DAYS AND
GET THAT REMOVED ONCE THEY ENTER INTO A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT WITHIN TEN DAYS. 
          EVEN SO. OKAY. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO OUR OUR PERMITTING PROCESS IS THE ONE INCREASE THE PERMIT FEE TO REQUIRE AN INTERNAL INSPECTION,
WHICH WE ALREADY DO. 
          BUT NOTE THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS, LIVING SPACES,
AND THE THE ARLINGTON ORDINANCE SAYS A PROHIBITION OF PHYSICAL CONVERSION OF PREMISES AT AT ALL. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? AND THAT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO THAT. 
          I MEAN, THE QUESTION YOU'D HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IS,
WOULD WE BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT TO ANY OTHER HOMEOWNER IN GARLAND? WELL, IF YOU HAVE A PERMIT, YES. RIGHT. WELL,
WELL, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT, THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT. 
          NOW, WE DO HAVE IN GARLAND WHO WHAT'S TALKING ABOUT THE CASE ON RIVERDALE IS THAT THAT IS
MOST OF THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE MAKE CONVERSIONS INTO NEW WITH NEW BEDROOMS, THEY DON'T MEET OUR PROPORTIONALITY STANDARDS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE BOOKS. 
          AND BASICALLY, OUR PROPORTIONALITY STANDARDS ARE FOR EVERY BEDROOM THAT EVERY TWO BEDROOMS
THAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BATHROOM AND A SEPARATE LIVING AREA. 
          AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HOUSE THAT HAS 11 BEDROOMS. AND THEY MEET THOSE PROPORTIONALITY. IT'S THE ONLY HOUSE I'VE EVER SEEN OF THAT SIZE
THAT'S BEEN CONVERTED WITH ALL THOSE BEDROOMS THAT ACTUALLY MEETS OUR PROPORTIONALITY STANDARDS. AND SO IT'S JUST AN UNUSUAL SITUATION THERE. 
          IT IS, BUT IT'S STILL A SITUATION THAT OCCURRED WITH NO PERMITS IN PLACE. 
          AND THOSE CONVERSIONS DID HAPPEN. I KNOW BUILDING INSPECTIONS WENT TO CHECK THE WORK,
WENT INTO THE SHEETROCK AND LOOKED AT PIPES AND ELECTRICAL AND EVERYTHING WAS OKAY. SO IT'S ALLOWED NOW. AND I JUST THAT THAT IRKS ME BEYOND BELIEF. 
          I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO OTHER THAN TO SAY IF YOU DO UNPERMITTED WORK TO THIS
PROPERTY AND DEVIATE FROM THE PLANS THAT THE INTERNAL INSPECTION PROVIDED WHEN YOU WERE ISSUED YOUR PERMIT,
YOU'RE DONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE CAN GET AGGRESSIVE LIKE THAT. I'M NOT SURE THE RATIONAL BASIS HAVING A RATIONAL BASIS,
OR THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO TO SHOW A COURT THAT, HEY, WE HAVE A RATIONAL BASIS FOR LIMITING STRS AND THAT IN SUCH A MANNER BECAUSE THEY
WOULD MEET ALL OF THE THING ABOUT IT, EVEN IF THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE DIDN'T HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT,
WE WENT BACK IN AND INSPECTED EVERYTHING. 
          AND AFTERWARDS WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THEY MEET THE BUILDING CODE AND IN ALL ASPECTS. 
          AND SO WHAT? THEY'RE WHAT THEY HAVE THERE. THEY COULD HAVE COME IN AND GOTTEN A BUILDING
PERMIT FOR EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE, AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE GRANT THAT BUILDING PERMIT. WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
STOP THEM FROM PUTTING 11 BEDROOMS IN. THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY CONFIGURED. BUT THEY DIDN'T AGREE TO THAT. THAT'S THE THING. THEY DIDN'T DO THAT. 
          AND I EVEN IF THE THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IF THERE IS A BLUEPRINT ON FILE OF THE
INTERNAL PORTIONS OF THE HOUSE AND THAT IS NOT AND THAT IS CHANGED WITHOUT A PERMIT I MEAN, THEN IT'S A STRIKE OR OR REVOLT, WHATEVER YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD BE A FULL REVOCATION, BUT REVOKE IT FOR A YEAR OR TWO. 
          [03:05:01]
YEAH, BUT I'LL, I'LL, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER COUNCIL BESIDES COUNCIL MEMBER FEELS ABOUT IT. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PART ADDRESSED,
AT LEAST BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN SUCH A BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS PLACE. 
          THAT'S KIND OF WHAT CAUSED MANY OF THE ISSUES TO KEEP OCCURRING LARGE PARTIES AND WHATNOT. 
          AND THE INSURANCE POLICY, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD REQUIRE AN INSURANCE POLICY. 
          IT IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE TAKEN CARE
OF IF THEY GET HURT. 
          WE MAY REQUIRE THAT UNDER OUR UNDER OUR OUR,
NOT OUR STR PORTION, BUT OUR SINGLE FAMILY PERMIT. 
          I NEED TO LOOK. DOUBLE CHECK. I, I SEEM TO RECALL THAT WE MAY REQUIRE THAT TO GET TO BE A
SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PROPERTY. 
          WHICH STARS FALL UNDER THAT, RIGHT? BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE A CHECK MARK ON THE
APPLICATION. 
          THERE WAS. WILL YOU GO OVER? I, I WAS READING IT BRIEFLY AND I WAS I WAS MORE FOCUSED ON
LIKE THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT PART AND, AND THE REVOCATION PARTS. BUT THERE'S A PART ABOUT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND SOMEONE BEING,
WILL YOU SPEAK TO THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE THAT'S PART OF THE APPLICATION TO GET A PERMIT, YOU HAVE TO INDICATE ON THERE WHETHER THIS IS GOING TO WHETHER YOU'RE
GOING TO LIVE THERE. 
          SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED WHILE YOU'RE DOING STR STUFF IN THE OTHER BEDROOMS,
AND WHETHER IT'S BEEN WHETHER YOU HAVE THIS PROPERTY LISTED AS A HOMESTEAD OR ANY OTHER PROPERTY WITHIN THE UNITED STATES AS A HOMESTEAD,
THEY HAVE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT OF BEING ABLE TO USE TO HAVE AN STR PERMIT. 
          WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ONE. WELL WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THAT INFORMATION RIGHT. 
          NO YOU DON'T. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A HOMESTEAD. 
          IN FACT WE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE AGAIN,
WE WENT THROUGH THAT IN THE COMMITTEE, BUT I'M JUST ASKING. NO, NO, NO, THAT'S GOOD THAT I JUST WANT TO GET KIND OF A GREAT
QUESTION OUT THERE. 
          AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW SOME OF THIS BECAUSE SOME OF THIS IS LISTEN,
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS COUNCILMEMBER BASS WHO SAID, WELL, THE AUSTIN COURT OF APPEALS IS WRONG. AND AND WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS
HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT THE COURT OF APPEALS SAY OR EVEN WHAT THE SUPREME COURT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THE LAW,
BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WHEN WE CAN SAY, OBVIOUSLY, THE LAW ISN'T ALWAYS, SHOCKINGLY ENOUGH, LOGICAL AND RATIONAL. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETIMES AS AGAIN, BAD FACTS OFTEN MAKE BAD LAW. 
          AND THAT'S PARTICULARLY TRUE IN CASE LAW IS BEING MADE. 
          AND THAT'S THE REASON YOU HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL AND IN RATIONAL ABOUT WHAT REGULATIONS
YOU PASS. 
          WELL, I THINK THAT THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT PUTS US IN A GOOD SPACE IF THERE'S LITIGATION
IN THE FUTURE. 
          I ALSO THINK THAT ANY BAD STR ACTOR WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FULFILL A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT IF
THEY HAD TO ENTER INTO ONE. SO YES, IT IS EXTRA WORDS AND EXTRA THINGS FOR YOUR OFFICE TO WRITE,
BUT IF THEY'RE IN A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THE MPOS FOR THAT AREA WILL BE ON IT. 
          I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT WHEN CODES DOING ANY KIND OF WEAKEN ENFORCEMENT,
THEY WILL BE ON IT. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ON ON THIS COMPLIANCE THING. 
          IT'S TO FOCUS, FOCUS THE STAFF TIME. WE'RE ALREADY PUTTING TOWARDS MANY OF THEM,
INTO THE ONES THAT DESERVE IT OR HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACTED POORLY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS,
WHICH THEY ARE, SOME OF THEM. 
          OKAY. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO. 
          I WANT TO I DO WANT TO BE A LITTLE MORE STRICT WITH THE INITIAL INSPECTION AND REALLY GET
THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND ALL OF THAT. EVEN IF THEY MEET A RATIO, THEY STILL DO UNPERMITTED WORK. 
          THEY SHOULD STILL I MEAN, THEY SHOULD BE THEY SHOULD NOT JUST GET AWAY WITH IT. 
          I MEAN, YEAH, WE CAN WE CAN AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          DUE A REQUIREMENT FOR A FLOOR PLAN. YOU KNOW,
YOU COULD. 
          AND THEN THAT WAY WHEN THE INSPECTOR GOES OUT,
THEY HAVE THE FLOOR PLAN IN HAND. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S IT'S EITHER THE SAME OR NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WAS IN THE APPLICATION PACKET. 
          WELL, IF THEY DO UNPERMITTED WORK WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO MAKE THEM GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF
ADJUSTMENT PROCESS TO GET THAT WORK APPROVED? ONLY IF THE WORK WAS OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE CODE ALLOWS? OKAY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW SOME REASON, SIZE,
SHAPE OR SLOPE OF WHY THEY WOULD NEED TO DO IT UNTIL THEY DO IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CODE. RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY ALSO. 
          RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY, YOU ONLY NEED TO BE INSPECTED WHEN YOU GET YOUR PERMIT. 
          IT'S NOT AN ANNUAL INSPECTION FOR STARS. WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO AN INSPECTION. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          [03:10:01]
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. 
          IT'S IT'S LIKE ALTERNATE SCHOOL FOR STR OWNERS. 
          SO IT'S IT KEEPS IT WHERE EVERY EVERYBODY THAT'S PLAYING BY THE RIGHT RULES,
THEY, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S JUST BUSINESS AS USUAL. I DO THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE YOU KNOW,
AN ANNUAL FEE THAT'S MORE REASONABLE. 
          $50? THAT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH. I MEAN, WE I LOOKED AT WHAT WE CHARGED FOR. 
          FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS $50,000 OR LESS. YOUR OUR WE CHARGE $258 AND $400 FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AND $500 FOR A SUPERMARKET. 
          SO I THINK WE CAN CHARGE SOMEWHERE 258 TO 500. 
          WE CAN FIND SOME MAGIC SPOT THAT WE CAN DEFEND. 
          AS FAR AS AN AN ANNUAL INSPECTION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY,
VERY USEFUL. 
          THAT WAY. WE COULD DO EXACTLY LIKE WHAT YOU SAID. 
          HAVE A HAVE A FLOOR PLAN IN HAND. LOOK AROUND AND HEY,
LOOK SURPRISED. 
          TWO NEW BEDROOMS AND HAVE SOME SORT OF A PENALTY FOR THAT. 
          AND I THINK WE CAN START TO FLESH OUT THE BAD ACTORS. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT HAVING REASONABLE STRONGER ADDITIONS TO THIS WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO REASSURING THE PEOPLE OF GARLAND THAT WE'RE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY,
THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE STRS COME BACK INTO COMPLIANCE. AND AND ALSO VINDICATE THE GOOD ACTORS THAT ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE THE BAD ONES
ARE REALLY MAKING THEM LOOK BAD. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON,
HOW MANY OF US HAVE STAYED AT A AIRBNB? HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE READ THE CITY'S CODES AND ORDINANCES AT THAT AIRBNB THAT YOU STAYED
OUT? NO ONE. NO ONE? NO ONE. SO FOR US TO THINK THAT SOMEONE STAYING IN AN AIRBNB IS GOING TO
READ THE CITY'S CODE AND ORDINANCE AND GIVE TWO FLYING MONKEYS ABOUT IT IS RIDICULOUS. 
          IT'S RIDICULOUS. SHE IS CRAZY. YES. THANK YOU. 
          DOING A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT AGAIN IS US BEING REACTIVE. 
          WE GET OURSELVES IN MORE DRAMA BECAUSE WE ARE REACTIVE INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE. 
          AT WHAT POINT ARE COUNCIL GOING TO STOP AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? OUR CITY IS THE WAY THAT IT IS, AND YOU GET THE COMPLAINTS THAT YOU GET BECAUSE WE HAVE
CONSISTENTLY BEEN REACTIVE. 
          IT'S INSANE. THE LITERAL DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS REPEATING THE SAME ACTION OVER AND OVER
AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT OUTCOME. 
          THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS,
BUT I'M TIRED OF GETTING THE SAME COMPLAINTS. 
          WELL, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO. WE'LL WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE DIES,
AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL WORRY ABOUT IT. 
          WHEN DO YOU KNOW THAT A THAT A STR IS A PROBLEM PROPERTY. 
          WHEN SOMEONE BITCHES ABOUT IT. WHEN SOMEONE'S BLOWING YOUR EMAILS UP ABOUT IT,
WHEN YOU'VE GOT 50 PEOPLE SITTING BEHIND YOU COMING AND COMPLAINING AND BEING UPSET ABOUT IT, WE'RE BEING REACTIVE. WE SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR RESIDENTS IN THAT
POSITION, THAT THEY HAVE TO LOSE THEIR MIND FOR US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 
          IF IT WAS NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? BECAUSE A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT IS OKAY NOW, JOHNNY. 
          DON'T MAKE ME COUNT TO THREE. ONE. ONE AND A HALF. 
          TWO. TWO AND A HALF. JUST DO IT. PULL THE TRIGGER BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GIVING THEM THREE
WARNINGS AND THEN A AND THEN A REVOCATION. 
          AFTER 12 MONTHS YOU'RE GIVING THEM SIX CHANCES. 
          LET'S EITHER DO IT OR DON'T. EITHER RUN OUR CITY OR WE DON'T. 
          YOU WANT TO RUN A BROTHEL OUT OF AN STR AND CALL IT GOOD? COOL. DO IT. OR IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? LIKE. 
          COME ON. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THIS IS INSANE. WE HAVE TO PUT OUR BIG BOY PANTS ON AND TELL
PEOPLE WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO, OR NOT GOING TO DO IN OUR CITY, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN COMPLACENT AND WE'VE JUST BEEN. 
          OKAY, WELL, $50. THERE'S NOT ANOTHER CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT CHARGES LESS THAN
$200 FOR A FEE FOR A PERMIT FOR STR, AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT IT COSTS WELL OVER $50 FOR ADMIN SERVICES TO PROCESS
THAT APPLICATION. TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY THAT THEY'RE THE REGISTERED OWNER. 
          FOR CODE TO GO OUT AND INSPECT THE PROPERTY. AND THE INSPECTION NEEDS TO BE DONE EVERY
SINGLE YEAR. 
          [03:15:07]
EVERY SINGLE YEAR. WHY WE WE WE GO AND INSPECT OUR HOTELS EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 
          WE GO IN AND INSPECT OUR APARTMENTS EVERY SINGLE YEAR. 
          DO OUR STRS PAY HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX? IT'S NOT ON OUR CODE. 
          THEY SHOULD BE. I BELIEVE THEY ARE. IT IS NOT ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO OVERHAUL. 
          WE HAVE ABOUT THIS MUCH ON OUR WEBSITE. WHEN YOU CLICK THE SHORT TERM RENTALS IT IS THIS
MUCH. 
          THERE'S NOT ANOTHER CITY THAT YOU'RE NOT SCROLLING,
SCROLLING, SCROLLING, SCROLLING, SCROLLING. 
          I THINK I THINK IT'S PART OF THE PERMITTING. AND I THINK THEY DO PAY. 
          IN FACT, I KNOW, I KNOW THEY PAY. I HOPE THEY DO. 
          I HOPE THEY DO. SO WE NEED TO REVAMP OUR WEBSITE BECAUSE OUR OUR LITTLE TAB UNDER STARS IS
IS LACKING. 
          IT'S LACKING A LOT OF YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLICK SHORT TERM RENTAL AND AND REGULAR
RENTER. 
          AND IT NEEDS TO ALL BE IN ONE PLACE. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          SO ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT COUNCIL PUTS PUTS ON THEIR BIG BOY PANTS AND DECIDE IF WE ARE
GOING TO LET OTHER PEOPLE RUN OUR CITY, OR IF WE ARE GOING TO RUN OUR CITY. ARE YOU OKAY WITH YOUR RESIDENTS BEING UPSET BECAUSE
WE'RE GIVING JOHNNY THREE TIME OUTS? OH WELL, NOW JOHNNY GETS THREE MORE TIME OUTS BECAUSE WE SIGNED A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT
LIKE THESE. 
          IT'S JUST IT'S SILLY. IT IS ABSOLUTELY SILLY. 
          SO JUST THINK ABOUT THAT. LIKE, ARE WE RUNNING THE CITY OR ARE WE LETTING OTHER PEOPLE RUN
OUR CITY? BECAUSE WORD OF MOUTH. WE ALL KNOW EVERYONE HAS HAS EXPERIENCE. 
          IF YOU GO TO A RESTAURANT AND IT'S CRAP, RIGHT? YOU'RE TELLING YOUR FRIENDS, WE ALL WERE UNDER 21. 
          AT ONE POINT, IF YOU GO TO A BAR AND YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OVER POUR YOU,
THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ID YOU, THAT THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. GUESS WHAT? YOU TOLD ALL YOUR FRIENDS. RIGHT. SO THAT BAR GOT MORE MORE BUSINESS. 
          BUT AT WHAT EXPENSE? THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING. 
          WE GET CRAP BUSINESSES. WE GET CRAP STARS BECAUSE WE ALLOW IT. 
          SO EITHER WE NEED TO DECIDE ARE WE GOING TO KEEP ALLOWING IT,
OR ARE WE PUTTING OUR FOOT DOWN AND WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUR CITY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OUR DISCUSSION POINTS. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. OKAY. MR. CITY ATTORNEY. WOULD YOU SUMMARIZE FOR US? I WILL GET THERE, IF YOU MIND. I GOT A SUMMARY. 
          I SOMEBODY. I WANT TO GET THERE IN JUST A MOMENT. OKAY? I'M GOING TO GET THERE WITH THAT.
OH, WAIT. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL GET THERE TO. NO, I'LL. I'LL WAIT ONE SECOND THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON, I BELIEVE YOUR POINT ABOUT THAT PERMIT FEES ARE WELL
TAKEN. 
          WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR FEES. I THINK WE COULD ALL AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THERE'S A
POINT THERE. SO I'M JUST GOING. 
          WHAT I'VE HEARD. I WANT TO JUST GET THESE POINTS OUT THERE IN A SUMMARY FASHION. 
          SO INCREASING THE PERMIT FEES. I THINK WE'RE ALL ALL UNANIMOUS ON THAT ONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES OR IS THAT SOMETHING
THAT STAFF COULD TAKE A LOOK AT AND BRING BACK TO US HERE? I THINK WE SHOULD JUST I MEAN, IN MY OPINION,
I'M JUST THE LAWYER. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD JUST BRING IT BACK. WE'RE HERE,
I AGREE. 
          BRING THAT BACK. ONE THING, THOUGH, TALK ABOUT PUTTING ON YOUR BIG BOY PANTS. 
          WHEN WE TOOK THE OATH OF OFFICE. AS COUNCIL MEMBERS,
WE ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY IN THIS STATE. 
          AND I THINK THE ATTORNEY HAS DEMONSTRATED THROUGH THE LAWS THAT THERE IS CASE HISTORY THAT
WE ARE BOUND TO FOLLOW AS PART OF OUR OATH. 
          SO WE CAN'T JUST GO OUT THERE AND TELL THESE PEOPLE,
YOU CAN'T OPERATE THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE IT'S IN NEED IN THE STATE CONSTITUTION WHERE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO LEASE THE PROPERTY. WE ARE BOUND TO UPHOLD THAT. WHAT WE CAN DO,
I THINK, IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH HERE IS A VERY GOOD ATTEMPT. 
          NOW, THIS IS OUR SECOND ATTEMPT AFTER WE INITIALLY PUT REGULATIONS ON STRS TO GO FURTHER
AND FURTHER REGULATE THEM. 
          AND THIS COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT I THINK, IS A GREAT STEP TOWARDS THAT. 
          I THINK THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL,
IT'S INTERNAL INSPECTION. 
          IF WE WANT TO ADD THAT TO A PART OF IT, CAN WE GET AN ANNUAL INSPECTION? WELL, WE DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO HEARD EXTENDING THE
VIOLATIONS. 
          I DO SEE SIX MONTHS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT 12 MONTH AND THREE VIOLATIONS IN ONE
PERIOD. 
          WE CAN ALL AGREEMENT IN THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE INSURANCE POLICY. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT? YOU SAID IT MAY BE DONE. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IS THERE CERTAIN TERMS THAT WE
NEED TO PUT IN THAT AS FAR AS VALUE OF AMOUNTS OF INSURANCE? I'LL LOOK AROUND AND SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THAT ARE REQUIRING INSURANCE. I ALSO
LOOK AT OUR CURRENT MULTIFAMILY LICENSE. 
          [03:20:06]
I MAY BE WRONG, BUT IF SOMETHING STICKS INTO MY HEAD THAT WE ALREADY REQUIRE,
SO THEN IF WE WANT, THEN QUESTION ON COMPLIANCE AGREEMENTS. 
          THIS INSPECTION THAT WE JUST VOTE ON GOES ON AND COMPLIANCE AGREEMENTS AND NOT JUST THE
INITIAL APPLICATION THIS INSURANCE. 
          WOULD IT GO ON COMPLIANCE AGREEMENTS. WELL OR THE INITIAL I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING
OVER. 
          IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL YOU NEED TO BE INSURED. OKAY. SO A B ON THE
APPLICATION THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE FOR THIS COUNCIL. 
          YOU'RE UNANIMOUS ON THAT AS WELL. I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT BACKGROUND CHECKS AT THE
BEGINNING. 
          I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR OPINION ON BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE A BACKGROUND CHECK. 
          IT WAS MENTIONED ON EVERY PERSON WHO THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF MY IF I RAN A AIRBNB AND MY
THREE YEAR OLD SON HAS TO GET A BACKGROUND CHECK. 
          YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT I WAS REFERRING TO. 
          SO I THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE DIFFICULT. AND IT'S IT'S A PRACTICAL THERE'S A PRACTICAL
PROBLEM AND POSSIBLY A LEGAL PROBLEM. 
          THE PRACTICAL PROBLEM IS WE'RE LIMITED. WHO WOULD BE DOING THE BACKGROUND SEARCH? BECAUSE WE'RE LIMITED. WE CAN'T JUST CALL UP THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SAY,
HEY, CAN YOU DO A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK? WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO LOCAL SEX OFFENDERS THAT HAVE BEEN REGISTERED,
BUT WHEN THEY'RE COMING FROM OUT OF STATE DEPENDING ON THE STATE AND WHAT THEY HAVE IS IN TERMS OF LOCAL JURISDICTION AND WHERE THEY HAVE TO REGISTER
IF IT'S STATEWIDE. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS PART OF THIS,
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S I'LL LOOK AT IT. 
          I WILL LOOK AT IT. LOOK AT THAT PORTION AS WELL. 
          DO WE KNOW HOW MANY STARS WE HAVE IN THE CITY? 200. SOMETHING LIKE JUST OVER 200. LAST NIGHT. 
          JUST OVER 200. OKAY. MR. CITY MANAGER, DO WE HAVE STAFF AVAILABILITY TO BE ABLE TO INSPECT
THESE ANNUALLY? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BROUGHT BACK
AS WELL. ALTHOUGH I'M GETTING A THUMBS UP FROM OUR THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          ALL RIGHT. WE HERE? YEAH. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A BIT OF ABILITY TO DO THAT,
THAT PORTION OF IT. 
          SO. ONE QUESTION I HAD THEN ON THE NOISE MONITORS WAS THERE WAS A PORTION THAT SAYS THAT
WE PROVIDE THE NOISE MONITOR. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? WELL IT IS. THEY HAVE TO PAY US ON THE FRONT END. 
          HR WE WOULD CHARGE THEM FOR IT, AND THEN WE WILL PROVIDE THEM WITH THE NOISE MONITOR. 
          AND I DO THAT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ONE THAT'S
QUALITY. AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PICK OUT WHICH ONE THAT WE THINK IS GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THE JOB AND IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE THE FUNCTIONS THAT WE NEED TO HELP
REGULATE THE PROPERTIES. 
          AND SO THEY WOULD PAY UPFRONT AND THEN WE WOULD SUPPLY THEM WITH THE MONITOR. 
          ANOTHER PART OF IT'S ALONG EACH PROPERTY LINE. 
          IF WE PUT IT ON THE CORNER DOES THAT COUNT AS ON TWO PROPERTY LINES. 
          THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD ENGINEER QUESTION. THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT SHAPES OF PROPERTIES THAT
AREN'T JUST RECTANGLES. 
          SO THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          I CAN CLEAR THAT UP WITH WHATEVER. LOOK AT THAT. 
          BECAUSE THERE'S ALL ONE ALONG EACH PROPERTY LINE OR ALONG EACH CORNER. RIGHT. WELL,
ORIGINALLY THE PROBLEM WAS PARTIES THAT ARE IN THE BACKYARD WHERE THERE MAY BE A POOL OR SOMETHING. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT. SO THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE
IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE MAYBE ALONG FENCED AREAS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S WORTH TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. SO COUNCIL, I HAVE A FEW OF THESE I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON A FEW OF THESE
ITEMS HERE ON THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. 
          DOES THAT GET US TO WHERE WE WANT AS FAR AS STEPPED UP ENFORCEMENT,
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR SEE? THIS ORDINANCE IS DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO BE READY TOMORROW,
READY BY TOMORROW. 
          SO WE WILL COME BACK IN A FUTURE SESSION AND HAVE IT PRESENTED AGAIN,
SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT. BACK INTO COUNCILMEMBER DENTON. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS ON
THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AGENDA. 
          IT'S A TOPIC. IT'S STILL THERE FROM LAST TIME. 
          WE DID NOT TAKE IT OFF EVEN THOUGH IT WAS PENDING TODAY. 
          SO IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO GO BACK TO OR CUSTOMER SERVICE TO COMMUNITY SERVICE,
THAT'S STILL AN OPTION. 
          OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO TAKE IT BACK TO A COMMITTEE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DISCUSSION PERSONALLY IN FRONT OF THE FULL COUNCIL. I THINK WE'RE
MAKING GOOD PROGRESS HERE WITH EVERYONE'S INPUT, SO I'M HAPPY TO RUN IT BACK THROUGH A COMMITTEE. BUT I THINK, OKAY, OKAY, REMOVE THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE MA'AM? OH THAT'S IT. 
          THAT'S OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM LOOK SO ON THE WE WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON INCREASING THE
PERMIT FEE THAT YEARLY INSPECTION. IS THERE AN INSPECTION FEE OR IS THAT A AN ANNUAL RE PERMITTING. 
          YOU COULD DO IT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS. YOU COULD ROLL THAT INSPECTION FEE INTO THE
PERMIT FEE. 
          BECAUSE IF IT'S AN ANNUAL INSPECTION, IT'S ALREADY AN ANNUAL PERMIT. 
          [03:25:01]
AND SO YOU WOULD JUST YOU COULD ROLL THAT IN THERE OR YOU COULD DO TWO SEPARATE FEES. IT'S
PROBABLY EASIER JUST TO DO ROLL IT INTO THE PERMIT FEE. 
          OKAY. GREAT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE YOU KNOW, A GOOD GUESS AT HOW MUCH THAT COSTS OUR STAFF
TO COMPLETE THAT AND ALL OF THAT. OKAY, GOOD. I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN MY OTHER QUESTION. 
          THAT'S OKAY. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU THIS WEEK. 
          OH, YES, I REMEMBERED. SO THE THE PART ABOUT NOT MAKING ANY UNPERMITTED CHANGES TO THE
HOME. 
          WILL YOU ASK COUNCIL ABOUT THAT? MAYOR, PLEASE. 
          PERMANENT CHANGES. HOW WOULD WE PUT THAT? AS A CONDITION OF REVOCATION FOR WE COULD
ACTUALLY PUT IN THERE THAT IF YOU IF A PERMIT HOLDER. CHANGES THE INTERIOR LAYOUT OR CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT PERMITS, THEN THEY'LL BE THEY CAN BE SUBJECT TO REVOCATION OF THEIR LICENSE FOR 12 MONTHS OR TWO
YEARS, WHATEVER. THAT'S PART OF THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT AS WELL. IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE PART
OF THE COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. WE CAN JUST PUT THAT IN. OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S REASONABLE. 
          OKAY. COUNSEL. YEAH. I THINK PUTTING IT IN AS A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT COMPONENT DOESN'T
REALLY CATCH THAT. 
          I MEAN, BECAUSE WHY WOULD THEY DO STUFF WHILE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE OR UNDER THAT
COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT. 
          SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU,
MR. MAYOR. THESE ARE THE TYPES OF POLICY PROVISIONS THAT I CAN CERTAINLY SUPPORT. 
          AND I HAVE A QUESTION NOW AS IT RELATES TO. THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING I HEARD TONIGHT IS
RELATED TO A PRIVACY FENCE. 
          I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD ALTERNATE IDEA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ENFORCEABLE OR NOT, BUT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS HERE? IT'S IT'S PROBABLY ENFORCEABLE WHERE WE MAY GET CAUGHT AS IF BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THERE'S
SOME VERY EXPENSIVE WROUGHT IRON FENCES OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON. AND IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAKE
RETROACTIVE FOR EXISTING ONES, BUT MOVING FORWARD. IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT MAKING SURE THEY PUT A
PRIVACY FENCE UP. 
          AND AGAIN, I SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE HARDEST THING THAT IT RELATES TO
NOISE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH FOR THE PERSON LIVING NEXT DOOR. 
          AND THAT IS NOT ONLY DO YOU HEAR IT, YOU SEE ALL OF IT THAT'S TAKING PLACE. 
          SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT THERE,
I THINK THAT IT WOULD REALLY HELP. 
          CAN I CAN I ADD A LAYER TO THAT ALSO BECAUSE I'M NOW JUST GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT QUESTION. WE MAY RUN INTO ISSUES WITH HOAS BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE A
CONFLICT THERE BECAUSE I KNOW SOME HOAS. 
          LIMIT WHAT TYPE OF FENCING MATERIALS YOU MAY USE. 
          AND SO WE MAY HAVE SOME CONFLICT WITH HOAS. YEAH. 
          BUT AS A HOA PRESIDENT PRO OUR PRESIDENT WE CITY SUPERSEDES AND WE IN HOA WE RECOGNIZE
THAT. 
          OKAY. BUT AGAIN I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY ANYONE LIVING NEXT DOOR TO
THEM IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE TO SEE. 
          AND BECAUSE I CAN'T SAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE IS WRONG,
I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE SOMETHING VERY RIGHT TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. SO CLOSING UP THE DISCUSSION THEN COUNCIL,
WE HAVE A LIST OF ITEMS WE'D LIKE TO SEE AMENDED TO A FUTURE ORDINANCE, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THE DISCUSSION COME BACK. 
          A MONTH MAYBE. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A WHILE. 
          COUNCIL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A BREAK. WE'LL COME BACK AT 955. 
          WE ARE IN RECESS. TEXT MESSAGES HERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. WELCOME BACK TO OUR MONDAY WORK SESSION OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. 
          WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM. IT'S AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 22,
ARTICLE TWO OF GARLAND CITY ORDINANCE FOOD AND FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          [8. Amendments to Chapter 22, Article II of Garland City Ordinance, Food and Food Establishments]
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH KIND OF A BRIEF SYNOPSIS
SYNOPSIS. 
          AND THEN, AS YOU KNOW, MANDY PIPPIN PIPPIN, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIRECTOR,
WILL GO THROUGH A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO THE ORDINANCE THAT RELATE TO THE INSPECTIONS OF FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND,
WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS ON QUITE SOME TIME WITH MANDY AND HER TEAM. OF COURSE, WE'VE RUN IT BY THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE,
BUT WE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE SOME CHANGES TO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. 
          AS A REMINDER, YOU MAY KNOW THIS. OUR OUR INSPECTORS USE THE STATE HEALTH INSPECTION FORM
ON THAT 70 IS PASSING, 69 IS FAILING. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT MOST OTHER CITIES WILL USE. 
          AND OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SEPARATE CATEGORY 60 TO 69. 
          YOU TECHNICALLY FAIL, BUT WE DON'T TAKE ACTION. 
          [03:30:03]
IT'S NOT A WE DON'T WE DON'T REVOKE. WE DON'T REVOCATION IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD. 
          WE DON'T SUSPEND THEIR PERMIT FOR THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS CLEAN THAT UP. 
          AND I WILL TELL YOU, COUNCIL, IT'S EASY TO MAKE A 70. 
          YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD AT NOT PASSING BEFORE YOU GET A FAILING GRADE WHICH IS 69 OR LOWER. 
          SO WE WANT TO CLEAN THAT UP REMOVE THAT. WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME ESTABLISHMENTS THAT
WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE 60S. 
          AND THEN THERE'S NO INCENTIVE TO GET OUT OF THE 60S. 
          SO WE WANT TO CLEAN THAT UP. WE WANT TO TIGHTEN THAT UP. 
          IF YOU FAIL, THEN WE WANT TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC,
HAVE OUR INSPECTORS OUT THERE. 
          IF YOU FAIL THERE WILL BE A ONE DAY SUSPENSION OF YOUR PERMIT. 
          CLOSE DOWN, GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THINGS FIXED AND THEN REOPEN. 
          IF YOU FAIL AGAIN WITHIN AN 18 MONTH PERIOD. THEN WE THEN WE ENHANCE THAT SUSPENSION TO A
WEEK. 
          WE GET YOUR ATTENTION. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO FAIL UNDER THE GUIDELINES
THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          THOSE STANDARDS NOW KEEP IN MIND COUNCIL TO AS WELL. 
          WHEN WE GO THROUGH, IF WE DO AN INSPECTION, OUR INSPECTOR WILL BE OUT THERE. 
          THERE'S A FAILING GRADE. THEN OF COURSE WE'LL BE BACK OUT THERE TYPICALLY THE NEXT DAY IF
THEY GET SOME THINGS CLEANED UP SO THEY CAN REOPEN, WE FOLLOW UP AGAIN. I THINK IT'S THREE MONTHS LATER TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE STILL DOING WHAT
THEY SHOULD BE DOING. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF FOLLOW UP ON THIS. SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE AS WELL IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
IS A WHAT'S THE FEE CALLED? A RECHECK FEE. SORRY. THANK YOU. A RECHECK FEE FOR THAT. 
          FOR OUR TIME THAT'S INVOLVED. FOR THE INSPECTORS TO GO BACK OUT TO THE LOCATION. 
          IF YOU HAVE A FAILING GRADE THREE TIMES WITHIN A 18 MONTH PERIOD,
YOUR PERMIT WILL BE REVOKED. OKAY. CURRENTLY, THE ORDINANCE HAS APPEALS FOR REVOCATIONS COMING DIRECTLY TO
CITY COUNCIL. 
          I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER PLACE WHERE THAT HAPPENS,
OR OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHANGE THAT TO THE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD, WHICH HANDLES THESE TYPES OF APPEALS ON A REVOCATION OF A PERMIT. 
          SO, IN SHORT, THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF IT. AND I MAY HAVE HIT THE WHOLE PRESENTATION. 
          I SAID AGAIN, SO I TOLD YOU I RAMBLED TOO MUCH,
BUT WHY DON'T WE LET MANDY GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION? WE'LL GET THROUGH THAT. AND THEN WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          ALL RIGHT, WELL, THERE'S BASICALLY FOUR ELEMENTS TO OUR CHANGES. 
          THE ONE IS WHAT MITCH JUST TALKED ABOUT CHANGING THAT THRESHOLD OF 59 TO 69. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS CHANGING WHO THE APPEAL GOES TO. 
          INSTEAD OF CITY COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD. 
          THE THIRD ONE, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE SAYS THAT THAT THE OWNER OF THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT
HAS A REVOCATION CANNOT OPERATE ANOTHER FOOD ESTABLISHMENT, GARLAND, FOR THREE YEARS. BUT WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO IT CAN OPERATE A DIFFERENT
LOCATION. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAVE THIS CIRCUMSTANCE GOING ON RIGHT NOW WHERE A GUY OWNS TWO LOCATIONS AND
HIS OTHER ONE IS DOING FINE. 
          SO WHY WOULD WE CLOSE THAT ONE TWO WHEN IT'S JUST THE ONE NOT DOING WELL? YEAH. AND THERE'S A LEGAL CHALLENGE TO THAT. AND WORKING WITH THE LEGAL TEAM ON THAT,
THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO MAKE A DISTINCTION FOR PER LOCATION IS WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. AND THE FINAL ONE IS THE RE INSPECTION FEE. 
          YOU KNOW, THESE ARE LONGER CHECKS AND WE HAVE TO DO THEM. 
          YOU KNOW, UNPLANNED. SO IT'S JUST TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT COST. 
          THE WHY IS BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND BY LETTING PEOPLE STAY IN,
THAT'S 59 TO 69 LIMBO. 
          I MEAN, THEY COULD JUST BE THERE INDEFINITELY. 
          YES, THEY GET CITATIONS, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MOTIVATE THEM TO GET BETTER. 
          SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE PROPOSED CHANGES SO WE CAN TIGHTEN UP ON OUR FOOD SERVICE
INSPECTIONS. 
          HOLD LOCATIONS ACCOUNTABLE AGAIN. THIS IS NOT DIFFICULT TO DO. 
          THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING THESE FAILING GRADES,
YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD AT GETTING A FAILING GRADE AMONG THEIR TEAM. 
          SO OUR I THINK OUR AVERAGE INSPECTION GRADE IS IN 8588 SO MID 80S. 
          SO WE WORK WITH AND WE TRY TO GET ALL THESE LOCATIONS TO WORK AND IMPROVE AND GET AS CLOSE
TO 100 AS THEY CAN. 
          BUT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO THIS SO WE CAN HOLD THESE LOCATIONS ACCOUNTABLE THAT ARE NOT
PROTECTING THE PUBLIC. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST SLIDE. 
          THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU CHANGE THAT? WHAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR THAT CHANGE? I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER. 
          I THINK THE THE APPEALS. I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER TIMES WHERE YOU HAVE AN
APPEAL THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL. 
          WE HAVE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD THAT EXIST IN THAT LIGHT. 
          [03:35:02]
YEAH, IT'S WE'RE AN OUTLIER ON THAT. AND ALSO AS A GENERAL MATTER,
WE DON'T ENCOURAGE THE CITY POLICY MAKERS TO BECOME DECISION MAKERS AND STUFF LIKE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY A QUASI JUDICIAL DECISION THAT YOU'RE MAKING. 
          AND PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD IS IS A REALLY A BETTER VENUE FOR THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. OKAY. BACK TO THE WONDERFUL. THIS SLIDE RIGHT BEFORE OKAY. 
          YOU YOU'RE CHANGING FROM 59 TO 6069. EXPLAIN THAT CHANGE. 
          SURE. IT'S ACTUALLY THE FAILING GRADE OF 69 OR LOWER. 
          IS THAT PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE ELSE? WE'RE THE OUTLIER. 
          WE'VE BEEN ALLOWING THIS EXTRA CATEGORY OF 60 TO 69. 
          I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE RATIONALE FOR MANY YEARS AGO WHERE YOU TECHNICALLY FAILED,
BUT WE WEREN'T TAKING ACTION WITH YOUR PERMIT TO CLOSE AND HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE ON THAT. SO THE REASON WE STARTED LOOKING AT THAT IS IT'S LESS THAN 10% OR FALLING INTO THAT
60% OR BELOW 69 OR BELOW. BUT WE KEPT SEEING SOME OF THE SAME LOCATIONS STAYING IN THE 60S AND THEY WEREN'T
BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 
          SO OUR THOUGHT IS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S REAL EASY TO MAKE A 70S NOT A GREAT SCORE. 
          WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE A 70. WE WANT YOU TO BE MID 80S,
90S, 100 IF YOU CAN BE THERE. 
          THIS IS HOW WE PROTECT THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW,
FROM THEIR OPERATIONS IN THE FOOD SERVICE, WHEN THEY START GETTING INTO THE 60S AND BELOW, THE PUBLIC'S AT RISK. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE CHANGES. 
          SO WITH THE VISIBLE INCREASE IN NUMBER OF FOOD FOOD TRUCKS,
IS THIS JUST APPLICABLE TO BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS OR FOOD TRUCKS IN. AND IF NOT,
WHAT WHAT ARE WE DOING TO REGULATE FOOD TRUCKS? IT WOULD JUST BE THE BRICK AND MORTAR BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAVE CONTROL OF THE THE MOBILE
FOOD, BECAUSE DALLAS COUNTY, BY LAW, IS THE ONES THAT ARE CHARGED WITH INSPECTING THEM. 
          SO SO WE WOULD JUST BE. THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE BRICK AND MORTAR RESTAURANT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. STATE LAW CHANGED. AND NOW FOR THE THE FOOD TRUCKS THEMSELVES ARE HANDLED
AT THE COUNTY LEVEL FOR PERMITS. 
          OKAY. AND LASTLY THEN HOW WOULD WOULD THEY. WHAT WOULD THE WHAT IS WHAT WOULD THE
EDUCATION PIECE FOR RESTAURANT OWNERS LOOK LIKE. WHAT WHAT CHANGES TO TO GET THIS INFORMATION IF IT'S IF IT'S ADOPTED BY
COUNCIL. 
          THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THEM. AND IS THERE A GRACE PERIOD. 
          I WE WOULD SEND OUT NOTIFICATION. WE HAVE WAYS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESTAURANTS. 
          AGAIN WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM IT'S NOT AN ISSUE ALREADY. 
          THE FACT IS WE'LL JUST BE FOLLOWING THE STATE LAW THAT EXISTS ALREADY OUT THERE,
BUT WE WILL BE COMMUNICATING WITH THOSE. 
          I WOULD NOT IN THIS CASE. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND A GRACE PERIOD. 
          I THINK WE'VE BEEN GIVEN GIVING GRACE ALREADY BY ALLOWING THEM TO STILL SORT OF PASS. 
          IF YOU'RE IN THE 60S, WHEN WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN,
AND WE NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP FOR THOSE WHO DON'T, ARE OUR PROBLEM LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT WORKING WITH US? AND WE GET INTO THIS MULTIPLE LEVELS, MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS,
HOPEFULLY ULTIMATELY SUSPENSIONS AND REVOCATIONS FOR THAT. 
          SO FOR ALL THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING WITH US,
THIS IS REALLY NO CHANGE FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING 70 AND ABOVE ANYWAY. 
          SO BUT WE WILL BE COMMUNICATING WITH RESTAURANTS AS WE MOVE IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS AS WE
MOVE FORWARD. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. ONE THING TO ADD ON THAT THE WE HAVEN'T
TALKED ABOUT THIS I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LAST SESSION THE LEGISLATURE PASSED SOMETHING THAT SAYS IF WE DIFFER IN OUR LAWS IN THE STATE,
WE HAVE TO SUBMIT OUR CHANGES TO THEM. 
          AND THEN YOU CANNOT ENFORCE THAT FOR 60 DAYS. 
          SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT 60 DAYS. OKAY. WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. 
          SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER BASS. 
          THANK YOU MITCH. THANK YOU FOR MEMORIZING THE PRESENTATION. 
          QUESTION. I HAVE APPROXIMATELY AND WHAT IS THE CURRENT NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS THAT THIS
WOULD AFFECT CURRENTLY THAT ARE FALLING BELOW? THAT WOULD BE IN THE 60S. 
          I REMEMBER LOOKING AT IT, AND IT WAS LESS THAN 10% OF THE RESTAURANTS INSPECTED THAT WOULD
FALL INTO THAT. 
          WELL, AND ACTUALLY THAT 10%, INCLUDING THOSE,
WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME LOCATIONS THAT WERE IN THE 50S. 
          THAT THEN WE DID WE DID TAKE ACTION WITH THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          SO SO IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THE 10%. SO. OKAY. 
          AND WHERE CAN THE PUBLIC FIND THE INSPECTION SCORES,
INSPECTION REPORTS? 
          [03:40:04]
WE DO HAVE THOSE ON THE WEBSITE. ON THE CITY WEBSITE. 
          YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE, ACTUALLY,
THERE'S A GIS MAP THAT SHOWS ALL OF THOSE POINTS THAT MAYOR HEDRICK WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY TO HAVE IMPLEMENTED. SO DOES $100 COVER THE STAFF TIME AND PAPERWORK REQUIRED FOR A RE INSPECTION? I IT'S IT'S CLOSE. THE THING IS, THE STATE JUST PUT A NEW LAW THAT LIMITS IT TO NO MORE
THAN $200. 
          I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO YOU KIND OF CALCULATING WHAT THAT STAFF TIME IS. 
          AND IF IT'S $200, MAKE IT $200 THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE PAYING FOR THESE RESTAURANTS WHO ARE
BAD ACTORS TO BE INSPECTED. AND I SAY THIS AS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED IN MANY RESTAURANTS AND IN AND OPERATE
ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE AS WELL. 
          SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE HARD ON ANYBODY, BUT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET BELOW 70. 
          AND I KIND OF WANTED YOU TO GO OVER SOME OF THOSE POINTS THAT THAT REALLY KIND OF PUT YOU
BELOW THAT, THAT THRESHOLD OF 69, 70, I GUESS BELOW 70. THERE'S USUALLY LIKE A POINT SYSTEM WHERE IF
THERE'S VERMIN OR FOOD TEMPS ARE BELOW OR ABOVE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. 
          THOSE ARE USUALLY HIGHER POINTS TAKEN OFF DURING THE INSPECTION. 
          WHAT WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE MOST WHAT DO YOU SEE THE MOST IN THIS? THAT KIND OF TAKES PEOPLE BELOW THAT THRESHOLD? WELL, THE THE FORM IS DIVIDED INTO THREE SECTIONS. 
          ONE IS THE PRIORITIES. THERE WERE THREE POINTS EACH. 
          THERE'S 20 OF THEM. AND THEN THERE'S THE PRIORITY FOUNDATION. 
          AND THEN THIS THE CORE ITEMS WHICH ARE JUST LIKE REPAIRING A LIGHT BULB OR SOMETHING MORE
MINOR THAN THAT. 
          SO THOSE THREE POINTERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO KNOCK YOUR SCORE DOWN. 
          AND THOSE ARE BASED ON THE FIVE FOODBORNE ILLNESS RISK FACTORS WITH TEMPERATURES AND. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT GET PEOPLE SICK. AT MINIMUM CAUSES,
YOU KNOW GASTROINTESTINAL, INTESTINAL ISSUES, BUT AT MAXIMUM COULD KILL SOMEONE,
POTENTIALLY. 
          I KNOW THAT THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN,
BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY. 
          AND MY QUESTION IS WHY 18 MONTHS? IF IF SOMEONE HAS A LOW SCORE,
I FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD ONE BE INSPECTED QUICKLY TO ENSURE THAT THEY GO ABOVE 69? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WAIT 18 MONTHS FOR THEM
TO VIOLATE THAT THREE TIMES. IS THAT AM I READING IT CORRECTLY? WELL, IF THEY ARE SCORING BELOW, RIGHT NOW IS BELOW 70. 
          THEN THEY'RE SEEN EVERY THREE MONTHS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO RACK IT UP. 
          I MEAN, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET BETTER THEN YOU'RE AT NINE MONTHS. 
          OKAY. I STILL I MEAN THE POTENTIAL FOR HURTING SOMEONE WITH WITH YOUR,
YOU KNOW, BAD FOOD THAT THAT'S A LITTLE SCARY TO ME. 
          GO AHEAD. 18 MONTHS ACTUALLY GIVES US MORE TIME TO NOT. 
          IT HOLDS THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR A LONGER TIME PERIOD. 
          OKAY. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY HELPFUL FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT. 
          AS MANDY SAID, WE'LL BE CHECKING. WE GO BACK. 
          WELL, WE GO BACK THE NEXT DAY TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN REOPEN. 
          FINE. THEY REOPEN. WE'RE BACK AGAIN IN THREE MONTHS. 
          WE'RE BACK AGAIN. NOW, SOMETIMES IT MAY BE THEY PASS. 
          THIS TIME WE GO BACK AND CHECK AGAIN. THAT'S WHERE THE 18 MONTHS COMES IN. 
          HELPFUL TO OUR TEAM. BECAUSE IF WE REDUCE THAT DOWN TO 12 MONTHS OR SOMETHING ELSE,
THEY THEY MAY. 
          THEY MAY FALL WITHIN THEIR TWICE, BUT NOT THREE TIMES. 
          SO THE 18 MONTHS IS ACTUALLY HELPFUL TO US AS OPPOSED TO 12 MONTHS,
BECAUSE THIS INVOLVES POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUES FOR FOR THE RESTAURANTS GUESTS. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH TWO STRIKES IN 18 MONTHS. 
          I FEEL LIKE IF YOU IF YOU'VE GONE SOMEWHERE AND THEY CAN'T HANG YOU GO BACK. 
          THEY'VE THEY FIX WHAT YOU HAVE, YOU GO BACK AND IT'S THE SAME STUFF GOING ON THERE PUTTING
SO MANY PEOPLE AT RISK. 
          SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TWO STRIKES INSTEAD OF THREE. 
          AND TWO STRIKES GETS YOU TO REVOCATION. WELL TWO TWO STRIKES GETS YOU TO WHERE THAT PLACE
IS SHUT DOWN AND THEY CAN'T. 
          YEAH. THAT'S SINGLE. WE MIGHT BE SAYING THE SAME THING. 
          SO LET ME SAY SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS REALLY IF YOU'RE BELOW 60. 
          [03:45:01]
IF YOU'RE IN THE 50S, WE MIGHT SHUT YOU DOWN. 
          THERE'S REALLY. YOU HAD THREE STRIKES AND IT WAS THE FOURTH TIME BEFORE YOU GET TO
REVOCATION UNDER OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. 
          SO WE SHRUNK THAT DOWN TO THERE IS NO LONGER WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS NO LONGER THE 60S
DON'T COUNT ANYMORE. 
          YOU GOT TO HAVE A 70 OR BETTER TO PASS. SO TIGHTENING UP THEIR FIRST TIME WE SUSPEND YOUR
PERMIT FOR ONE DAY, ALLOW YOU TO REOPEN THE NEXT DAY. SECOND TIME WE'RE JUMPING ALL THE WAY TO A WEEK. 
          A FULL SEVEN DAYS. YOU'RE CLOSED. THAT THAT WILL BE HARD ON THEM AND EVERYTHING,
THOUGH. 
          THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS FOR THAT, FOR THOSE FOR THOSE TYPES OF SUSPENSIONS,
THOSE WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL BECAUSE THAT'S A SUSPENSION, NOT A REVOCATION. THE THIRD TIME WITHIN THE 18 MONTH PERIOD,
YOUR PERMIT IS REVOKED AND YOU'RE CLOSED. 
          THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS TO THE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD FOR THEIR BUSINESS TO GO
THROUGH. 
          BUT WE WERE SHRINKING DOWN FROM FOUR TO NOW THREE. 
          AND THE THIRD ONE IS YOUR PERMIT IS REVOKED TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE FROM THERE. 
          WE DO SEE SOME THAT WILL HAVE A FAILURE. YOU'LL HAVE AN OWNER FINALLY GET INVOLVED. 
          USUALLY IT'S ABSENTEE OWNERS THAT HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE RUNNING IT AND THEN THEY'RE NOT. 
          THEY'RE NOT REALLY HOLDING THEIR STAFF ACCOUNTABLE. 
          THEY WILL HAVE THAT INITIAL TIME. YOU CLOSE THEM FOR A DAY,
REVOKE THEIR SUSPENSION. 
          THEY'RE CLOSED FOR A DAY. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO REOPEN. 
          WE DO SEE RESPONSES FROM A LOT THERE. NOW WE'RE OPEN TO WHATEVER DIRECTION COUNCIL WOULD
LIKE TO GO, BUT WE WERE TO TO RAMP UP TO A SEVEN DAY SUSPENSION ON THE SECOND TERM IS EVEN HIGHER THAN
MOST OTHER. 
          WHAT OTHER CITIES DO DO MOST OTHER CITIES ARE PROBABLY IN THE 3 TO 5 DAY RANGE FOR A
SECOND VIOLATION. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF OF MORE RESTRICTION AS FAR AS FAILING OUR,
OUR FOOD AND HEALTH INSPECTIONS. 
          GOES. I WOULD LIKE COUNCILMAN BASS'S OPINION ON THAT PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. 
          SO ANDY, YOU PRESENTED TO ME DURING ORIENTATION BACK ON JULY 12TH. 
          AND SO I WAS AWARE OF THE GIS SCORING SYSTEM. 
          AND AS AN IT GUY, I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY TO PUT THAT UP ON MY PHONE AND GO THERE. 
          MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO GO THERE. AND SO YOU SAID THERE IS A A NOTE THEY GET THAT HAS
THEIR SCORE. 
          AND SO AFTER THAT ORIENTATION, I DECIDED TO TAKE A WALK AROUND THE SQUARE AND SEE IF I
COULD FIND THOSE. 
          AND I ONLY FOUND ONE AT LATHAM BAKERY, AND THAT WAS THAT. 
          I COULD FIND THAT WAS POSTED NEAR THE FRONT DOOR OR SOMEPLACE SUPER ACCESSIBLE. 
          AND DURING OUR ORIENTATION COMING FROM. AND SO I ACTUALLY I TALKED TO THE ONE OF THE
OWNERS OVER AT FORTUNATE SON AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A LETTER GRADE SYSTEM. 
          SO HAVING THE SCORE THERE ON THE DOOR IS FINE,
BUT NOW I'VE GOT TO GET OUT OF MY CAR AND COME UP AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT YOU ARE TO THEN SAY, OH, NO, YOU'RE IN THE 70S. I'M NOT. 
          I'M NOT GOING HERE. IN, IN THIS GUY, HE CAME FROM NEW YORK AND I CAME FROM CALIFORNIA. 
          AND THEY HAVE LETTER GRADE SYSTEM AND IT'S A,
B, C AND THAT LETTER GRADE IS ABOUT THAT BIG. 
          IT'S GOT TO BE WITHIN THREE FEET OF THE FRONT DOOR VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. 
          AND SO YOU COULD DRIVE BY IT AND SEE IF YOU'RE AN A OR A B OR A C. 
          AND THAT REALLY PROVIDED I THINK, A LOT OF INCENTIVE FOR THE RESTAURANT OWNERS TO KNOW
THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO POST THAT THING AS A BIG RED LETTER ON THEIR FRONT DOOR. AND IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO
THESE CHANGES? I DON'T THINK SO. I WENT BACK AFTER OUR MEETING TO TO READ THE WORDING ON THAT. 
          AND IT DOESN'T SAY ANY DESCRIPTION ON WHAT IT HAS TO LOOK LIKE. 
          SO WE COULD REALLY JUST CHANGE HOWEVER WE WANT TO CHANGE IT. 
          DO YOU, DO YOU. I DON'T. AND I'LL KIND OF MAYBE DEFER TO OUR FORMER RESTAURANT OWNER. 
          BUT THE GUY FROM NEW YORK SAID, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          HE SAID, WHEN IT COMES TO INSPECTIONS, IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE INSPECTOR YOU GET THAT
DAY. 
          SOME GUYS ARE REALLY GUNG HO AND WRITE UP EVERY LITTLE THING. 
          SOME GUYS ARE A LITTLE MORE LAX. AND SO HE SAID,
IF EVERYBODY'S KIND OF INSPECTING USING THE SAME STANDARD, THEN I'M GOOD WITH THAT AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO LIVE WITH MY LETTER GRADE. 
          AND HE SAID, AND THAT WAS A GREAT INCENTIVE IN NEW YORK TO CLEAN UP. YOU CAN IMAGINE IN
NEW YORK CITY THEY HAD A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN GARLAND, TEXAS, WITH SOME OF THEIR RESTAURANTS. AND BUT THAT WAS A REAL DISINCENTIVE TO HAVE A LOW
SCORE. 
          IF YOU HAD TO POST THAT THING IN THE WINDOW WHERE PEOPLE COULD SEE IT WITHOUT HAVING TO
GET OUT OF THEIR CAR JUST DRIVING BY. 
          WEE WEE. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? WE DID. WE DID KIND OF DO A BRIEF SURVEY LOOKING AROUND AT
WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES IN THE METROPLEX I THINK WE FOUND WAS IT TWO 
          [03:50:05]
ONE ARLINGTON. WE FOUND ONE OTHER CITY THAT HAD A LETTER LIKE THAT POSTED IN THAT FASHION
IN MANSFIELD. 
          ANOTHER. SO WE HAD TWO CITIES THAT WE FOUND THAT DID SOMETHING SIMILAR. 
          BASED ON THAT. BUT THE OTHERS CURRENTLY DO NOT. 
          OKAY. WELL, TO ME, THAT JUST YOU KNOW, HAVING HAVING YOUR SCORE THERE IN FINE PRINT ON THE
DOOR KIND OF DOESN'T REALLY PROVIDE ANY DISINCENTIVE TO THE TO THE RESTAURANT OWNER. YOU KNOW, BY LOSING CUSTOMERS BECAUSE YOU GOT A C ON YOUR DOOR
AND THERE'S, THERE'S EYES ALL AROUND YOU GUESS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? THEY'RE GOING TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. AND SO TO ME,
THAT REALLY PROVIDES INCENTIVE TO GET YOUR SCORE UP EVEN HIGHER THAN IN THE 80S AND GET INTO THE 90S. SO YOU GET THAT A LETTER GRADE. 
          AND SO ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO SEE US MAYBE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND I DON'T KNOW, I'LL ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM COUNCILMAN BASS
ON THAT, ON THAT SUBJECT. AND WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S HIS TURN. 
          SO ANYWAY, I WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. THE REST OF THIS I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH. 
          I THINK WE'RE WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE. 
          DEFINITELY TIGHTENED IT UP. IT'S A GOOD THING. SO THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON I DON'T REALLY 100% REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT I ZONED OUT SINCE THEN. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING RESTAURANTS HAVE IT VISIBLY
POSTED. 
          NOT NECESSARILY WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE STREET,
BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED ANY HELP MAKING THE CITY VISIBLY TACKY. 
          WE GOT ENOUGH TIRE SHOPS DOING THAT. BUT ALSO THERE'S STILL AS A AS A PATRON,
YOU STILL HAVE YOUR OWN YOU NEED TO DO YOUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE WE COULD DEFINITELY REQUIRE THAT IT'S POSTED VISIBLY ON THE FRONT DOOR
ON THE, AROUND THE FRONT DOOR. I DON'T THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE HUGE. 
          BUT WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE IT, I HAVE PERSONALLY GONE TO RESTAURANTS IN GARLAND WHERE THERE
ARE ROACHES ON THE FLOOR. 
          PEOPLE SEE THEM AND THEY WILL STILL EAT THEIR FOOD. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THAT HAVING I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TELL YOU THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE I'M
BEING I DON'T THINK THAT POSTING IT HUGE ON THE DOOR IS GOING TO BE JUST THE END ALL,
BE ALL. 
          I FEEL LIKE PROBABLY EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM HAS GONE INTO A RESTAURANT THAT SMELLED LIKE
SEWER GAS, AND YOU HAVE STILL PROBABLY ORDERED FOOD. JUST LET THAT SINK IN. 
          SO I'M JUST LIKE, WELL, I'M PROUD OF YOU THEN. 
          I'M PROUD OF YOU. BUT THE POINT BEING, I DON'T THINK THAT POSTING IT HUGELY IS GOING TO IS
GOING TO DETER A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          AND NOW I REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY SAY. 
          AS FAR AS THE SHUTTING DOWN REVOCATION, I WOULD LIKE US TO BE MINDFUL THAT IF THEY FAILED
DUE TO OTHER ISSUES, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST FOOD TEMPERATURE OR SANITATION OR I,
I, MY NEIGHBOR HAD A RESTAURANT AND HE GOT KNOCKED SOME POINTS BECAUSE HE HAD A RUSTY STOOL IN HIS OFFICE THAT WAS NOWHERE NEAR FOOD. 
          WE I HAVE A FRIEND THAT HAD A RESTAURANT AND WAS KNOCKED DOWN POINTS BECAUSE SHE HAD TRASH
BAGS IN THE CAN. 
          AS THEY WERE TRYING TO SWITCH OUT THE TRASH. SO THOSE ARE THINGS IT DOES NOT HELP. 
          I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO IT. SURE. IS IT AFFECTING YOUR FOOD? NO. IS IT GOING TO MAKE YOU SICK? NO. SO IF WE'RE DOING THIS,
WE'RE WE'RE CLOSING PEOPLE'S DOWN AND MESSING WITH PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOOD. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS, IN FACT, DUE TO NOT JUST SMALL,
MINOR THINGS, BUT IT IS, IN FACT, BECAUSE OF A TRUE HEALTH SAFETY THING LIKE RAW EGGS AND THEIR BUTTER. 
          IF WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE SALMONELLA, ABSOLUTELY WE'RE DONE. 
          IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT WITH STATE INSPECTION FORM POINT SYSTEM TO GET THERE ON
ONLY MINOR THINGS. 
          FOR SURE. YOU MIGHT HAVE A LOWER SCORE, BUT IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET THERE
NOW. 
          YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. GO TO CHEF BASE NEXT. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY, SO, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL,
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT OUR THAT WE DO FOR OUR RESTAURANTS WITH HEALTH INSPECTION. ONE THING YOU GUYS DIDN'T MENTION. 
          IT'S I WANT TO SAY TOP 5%. SO TELL US WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE IN THE TOP 5% OF SCORING IN
YOUR RESTAURANT? 
          [03:55:04]
YOU GET A FREE PERMIT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR,
AND YOU GET A GOOD PRICE. 
          YEAH. SO YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S REALLY I LOVE THAT. 
          AND THE THE INSPECTION REALLY IS AN INCENTIVE TO THE RESTAURANT OPERATOR. 
          ABSOLUTELY. IT'S IT IS AN INCENTIVE. SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. 
          RESTAURANT OWNERS AND OPERATORS AND MANAGERS ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT THEY DO,
AND THEY DO CARE FOR THOSE ACCOLADES. 
          AND THEY DO TRY FOR THE MOST PART. MAN, IF YOU'RE GETTING BELOW AND I'M GOING TO SAY THE
NUMBER IS 82. 
          IF YOU'RE GETTING BELOW AN 82 ON A HEALTH INSPECTION,
YOU'RE NOT DOING THINGS RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, AND YOU ARE. YOU'RE GOING TO GET TICKS FOR THINGS,
YOU KNOW. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE WHO HAS A DRINK WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME WINDEX SITTING ON TOP OF THE ICE MACHINE. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE SCOOP IN THE ICE MACHINE,
WHICH IS FUNNY, BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS WALL HERE. AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE LESS THAN AN HOUR AGO ABOUT WHY THE SCOOP WASN'T IN THERE.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE. YEAH. 
          SO THOSE LITTLE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY IT'S SET UP THIS
WAY. 
          AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE SUBJECTIVITY
OF SCORING BASED UPON WHO YOUR INSPECTOR IS. 
          NO MATTER WHAT, THAT NO MATTER WHAT A LIST LOOKS LIKE ANYWHERE WITH A SCORING SYSTEM,
YOU'RE GOING TO GET SUBJECTIVITY BETWEEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SET UP TO MAKE PEOPLE FAIL. 
          IT'S SET UP HONESTLY. IT'S SET UP TO EDUCATE THE EDUCATE THE RESTAURANT MANAGERS AND
OPERATORS. 
          AND IT'S SET UP TO PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY. IF YOU ARE GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR A SCORE OF A 69
OR A 59. 
          HONESTLY, I GOTTA SAY, IN MY OPINION, IF YOU GET A SCORE OF A 59,
YOU SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING REALLY BAD GETTING THAT LOW. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY,
THOUGH, BECAUSE IT SAYS THREE INSPECTIONS IN A 18 MONTH PERIOD. 
          THAT WOULD BE ON ON THE THIRD INSPECTION REVOCATION. 
          RIGHT. CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. SO BASICALLY SO THE GRACE IS TWO. 
          YEAH. AND I'M FOR I'M FOR ALL THESE CHANGES. ABSOLUTELY. 
          AS FAR AS POSTING A SCORE, WHETHER WE DID LIKE WE CURRENTLY DO A NUMBER SYSTEM,
YOU KNOW, NUMBER LETTER, THAT'S MOOT. RIGHT? I AND I CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG,
BUT AREN'T WE REQUIRED TO HAVE OUR SCORE POSTED? I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT. YEAH, YEAH, IT'S POSTED AND YOU HAVE TO CHECK IT ON INSPECTION. 
          AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS THE MOST RECENT HEALTH INSPECTION IS AVAILABLE TO
THE PUBLIC UPON REQUEST. 
          THE RESTAURANT HAS TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE AND THE SCORE IS ALREADY POSTED ON THE DOOR. 
          SO I WOULD NOT OBJECT TO SEEING. I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T SAY FROM THE STREET BECAUSE YOU
DON'T KNOW HOW FAR AWAY. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S IN A HOTEL. 
          RIGHT. WELL, HOW FAR AWAY IS THE STREET? YOU KNOW,
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A PARKING LOT. 
          SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CHANGE IT TO A MINIMUM
FONT SIZE OR SOMETHING ALONG, YOU KNOW, MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, LETTERS GOT TO BE WITH THE SCORES. 
          GOT TO BE WHATEVER, EIGHT INCHES BY FOUR INCHES,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE TO COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS'S POINT,
YOU KNOW, THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT DOOR JUST TO SEE IT. 
          IT WOULD BE MORE VISIBLE. AND, MARGARET, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I WASN'T TAKING NOTES WHEN YOU WERE TALKING. SO WHAT DID YOU WHAT DID YOU ASK ABOUT? WE SHOULD MAKE IT TO BASICALLY ON THE SECOND. 
          ON THE SECOND TIME THAT THEY HIT BELOW 70, THEY GET SHUT DOWN. 
          I WONDER I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO THAT. LIKE I SAID,
YOU'RE YOU'RE WORKING HARD TO GET A SCORE THAT LOW. 
          YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING. YOU'RE NOT JUST DOING THINGS LIKE AN EMPLOYEE. 
          NOT WASHING HANDS BETWEEN GLOVE CHANGES. YOU'RE NOT DOING JUST NOT HAIR NETS. 
          YOU'RE. YOU'RE FAILING A LOT OF TEMPS. YOU HAVE BIG TIME SANITATION ISSUES. 
          YEAH. YEAH. LIVE THINGS RUNNING AROUND YOUR RESTAURANT. 
          THAT SHOULDN'T BE YOU'RE DOING THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO EAT IN THAT
RESTAURANT TO GET YOU A SCORE OF THAT LOW, SO, YEAH, I'D. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT ON THE SECOND,
SECOND TIME BECAUSE HONESTLY, NO. 
          DO WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE IF YOU SCORE BELOW A CERTAIN POINT BECAUSE I KNOW,
FOR EXAMPLE, IF I HAD A RESTAURANT THAT GOT, YOU KNOW, THE LOWER THE SCORE IS,
THE MORE OFTEN THE HEALTH INSPECTOR COMES. 
          SO DO WE HAVE WHEN WE SCORED THAT LOW, LIKE WE'RE COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS. 
          UNDER 70 IS HIGH RISK. AND IT'S EVERY THREE. IT'S STILL THREE MONTHS. 
          THREE MONTHS OKAY. CAN WE MAKE SOME? ANOTHER THRESHOLD OR MAYBE MORE AGGRESSIVE
THRESHOLDS? WELL, KEEP IN MIND THAT'S THREE MONTHS TO DO A FORMAL INSPECTION. 
          WE'RE FOLLOWING UP. WE'RE COMING BACK IN, BUT. 
          THAT'D BE 100% OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. GOOD. YEAH. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WITH THIS SCORING,
I THINK 69 IS THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER TO REALLY BE SUPER AGGRESSIVE AT. 
          AND YEAH, I JUST SOMETHING TO SUGGEST AND CONSIDER ON THIS. 
          WHEN I LOOKED AROUND AT ALL THE OTHER CITIES I DIDN'T DO A FORMAL SURVEY,
BUT I LOOKED A LOT AT THEM. 
          [04:00:04]
I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY GO TO REVOCATION WITH ON THE SECOND TIME. 
          MOST WERE STILL IN THE FOUR. THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE IN THE THREE. 
          SO WE WERE BUMPING IT UP. AND WE'RE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ABOUT RAMPING UP OUR
STANDARDS, SO TO SPEAK, THROUGH OUR ORDINANCE AND TIGHTEN IT ALL UP. 
          SO WHATEVER COUNCIL CONSIDERS ON THAT WOULD BE FINE. 
          JUST KEEP IN MIND IT'S IT'S A BIG. IT IS A BIG STEP TO GO FROM AA1 DAY SUSPENSION. 
          AND THEN WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME, IF YOU FAIL AGAIN YOU ARE REVOKED AND YOUR BUSINESS IS
SHUT DOWN. 
          THERE IS AN APPEAL TO THE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD,
BUT IT'S A BIG STEP TO JUMP STRAIGHT FROM THERE TO THERE. 
          AND MAYBE THAT'S WARRANTED. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WHEN WE WENT
THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          SO COULD WE HAVE? BECAUSE OF COURSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET TO A SCORE,
RIGHT. 
          COULD WE AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T REMEMBER. ARE THERE ANY CATEGORIZATIONS OF THINGS? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE WAS RAT DROPPINGS,
IT'S GOING TO BE, WHAT, TEN, 15 POINTS? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. AS OPPOSED TO AN EMPLOYEE NOT WEARING GLOVES MIGHT BE 2 OR 5 POINTS. 
          BUT IF WE TAKE THIS MORE AGGRESSIVE STANCE, CAN WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THERE ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, HIGH WHATEVER HIGH INTENSITY CATEGORIES THAT ARE LIKE IF THEY'RE REPEATED ON THERE,
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO SOMEONE GOT TO A 69 BY HAVING JUST A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE DIFFERENT THAN THEY
HAD THE FIRST TIME. 
          MAYBE THEY GOT TO IT THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE THERE WERE VERMIN DROPPINGS,
AND THE SECOND TIME THEY GOT TO IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE WALK IN COOLER WAS BROKEN AND ALL THE TEMPERATURE TOO HIGH. 
          BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THEY FIXED THE FIRST PROBLEM. 
          THEY JUST GOT ANOTHER PROBLEM NOW. AND SO SOMETHING ABOUT EATING. 
          LET ME SUGGEST THIS. IF MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT ONE THIS WAS ON FOR
TOMORROW NIGHT DISCUSSION. 
          WHAT WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS LET US PULL THAT ITEM,
LET US COME UP, BECAUSE I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE AN IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION WITH THE LEGAL TEAM AGAIN ON SOME OF THESE THINGS,
ON WHERE WE STAND THERE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT AND HOLD THEM. 
          WE HAVE LOOKED AT WE LOOKED AT THE VERY THING ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT RIGHT NOW. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BIAS ON THE DO WE THERE'S THREE SECTIONS OF THE FORM. 
          DO WE PRIORITIZE CATEGORIZE THE THE THE WHAT'S THE HIGHEST PRIORITY? THE PRIORITY SECTION WITH THE THE THE THE ITEMS ARE THE THREE POINTS. 
          DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. LET US LOOK AT THAT. COME BACK. 
          I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE LAW THAT OTHER PIECES WE CAN LOOK AT
THE POSTING OF THE SCORES, WHAT THEY MAY LOOK LIKE AND COME BACK WITH SOME SOME OPTIONS THERE WE CAN LOOK AT. 
          DO WE GO TO REVOCATION ON THE SECOND POINT, IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL LOOK. 
          AND WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. 
          BUT TREY IS HERE BECAUSE HE'S OUR LEGAL GOD. YEAH. 
          SO COUNCILMAN, I JUST WANTED TO ADD IN THAT I'M RIGHT NOW THE CHANGE IS FOCUSED ON THE THE
69 BEING THE CHANGE IN THE NUMBER AND THEN ADDING IN THE REVOCATION IF THEY GET THREE AND AN 18 MONTH PERIOD AS THE WAY OUR ORDINANCE IS DRAFTED,
THOUGH, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN BE REPLICATED. 
          THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN GET THERE. 
          THE OTHER WAY THAT IT IS, IS THAT A PERMIT MAY BE REVOKED FOR SERIOUS OR REPEATED
VIOLATIONS OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ARTICLE. 
          SO IF THEY WALK IN AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY ATROCIOUS,
SORRY WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE THREE DIFFERENT BELOW 69 SCORES. 
          THEY CAN REVOKE IT IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU. NO ONE'S GOING BACK PROBLEMS. SO I JUST I JUST WANTED TO HELP CLARIFY THAT. 
          THANK YOU. AND MAYBE THAT SOLVES SOME OF THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE. 
          AND SAME THING FROM AN ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT WITH A CITATION. 
          YOU MAY HAVE A PASSING SCORE, BUT YOU CAN STILL GET A CITATION FOR CERTAIN VIOLATIONS. 
          SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS IN THERE. BUT BUT OF COURSE WE'LL HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL BE HEARING FROM YOU AGAIN. 
          YEAH, WE'LL BE BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH SOME UPDATED INFORMATION. 
          AND AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND WE'LL BE READY THEN. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL. 
          [9. Overview of the proposed City-initiated rezoning around Holford Road and President George Bush Turnpike]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NINE. OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED CITY INITIATED REZONING AROUND HOLFORD
ROAD AND PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. 
          THANKS, MANDY. I HAVE NOTICED I AM NOT NABILA NUR. SHE IS SICK TODAY AND SO SHE STUCK WITH ME AS I TRY TO FIND THIS
PRESENTATION. 
          [04:05:03]
WHAT ARE THE ODDS YOU MIGHT RECALL? WHAT? WHAT? 8800. THERE IT IS. THANK YOU. WE HAD TO AT THE LAST MINUTE. 
          GET THIS DOWN HERE FOR THIS EVENING. 
          I'LL GO WITH THIS. I'M NOT SURE HOW TO ENLARGE THAT. 
          IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. SO THIS IS MEANT TO BE AN INFORMATIONAL,
HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF A CITY INITIATED REZONING EFFORT. 
          THIS IS INDICATIVE OF AN AREA THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR MANY YEARS AS POTENTIAL FOR KIND
OF A CONSOLIDATED EFFORT FOR FOR THE PROPERTIES TO DEVELOP IN KIND OF A MEANINGFUL,
CONNECTED WAY FOR FUTURE DESTINATIONS AND, AND OTHERWISE. SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT IT BE A PD FOR THIS AREA. 
          THAT WOULD THE BASE ZONING WOULD BE BASICALLY OUR URBAN BUSINESS,
WHICH IS A MIXED USE TYPE OF ZONING. 
          THUS FAR WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF INFORMATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. 
          I KNOW IT. COUNCILMAN THOMAS'S TOWN HALL, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION. 
          WE'VE ALSO MADE CONTACT WITH THE IMPACTED PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          NOTICES WILL BE GOING OUT IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY FOR PLAN COMMISSION,
WHICH IS ON AUGUST 25TH. 
          SO AS YOU'LL NOTICE HERE THAT YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORIES TWO PD,
OLDER PDS. 
          THE REST IS AG SOME OF THE ABOUT 13.95 ACRES THAT THE CITY HAS ACQUIRED KIND OF IN THIS
UPPER CORNER AT HOLFORD AND 190. ALL OF THAT WOULD BE INTENDED. WHAT'S KIND OF NORTHWEST OF HOLFORD. 
          AND THEN IN THAT LAND USE MATRIX ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE LAND USE OF THE CITY OWNED PARK
AREA. 
          AND THAT AND THAT PURPOSE DEFINED IN THERE AS WELL IN THE LAND USE MATRIX. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS,
I THINK. 
          SORRY TO INTERRUPT. SURE. NO ONE PIECE TO TOUCH ON TO IS OUR INTENTIONS TO PRESERVE THE
FLOODPLAIN, PARTICULARLY NEXT TO THE FOREST PRESERVE AND IN THAT AREA,
IF YOU CAN TOUCH IT, I CAN HIGHLIGHT THAT A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO IT'S NOT ON THIS MAP RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'S WHY I FORGOT IT. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT
OUT. 
          SO IT IS INTENDED THAT THERE'S THIS IN THIS 17 ACRE PARCEL RIGHT HERE. 
          ABOUT 7 OR 8 ACRES IS OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. AND THIS KIND OF WHERE I'M DRAWING A LINE IS
ADJACENT TO, TO SPRING CREEK. SO IT'S INTENDED TO BE IDENTIFIED AS,
AS NATURAL OPEN SPACE IN THAT ZONING EFFORT. 
          ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER BASS, YOU WERE IN AND OUT. 
          DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ITEM? NO. I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OKAY BEFORE COUNCIL. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS? YES. THE QUESTIONS I'M GETTING, THIS IS NOT THE FULL PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD AT THE TOWN
HALL. 
          IT HAD SOME OVERLAYS FOR YOU KNOW, THE, THE OFF ROAD AND NEYMAN FOREST WHERE THE,
WHERE THE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH. 
          YES, SIR. AND THE QUESTION I GOT THE MOST WAS,
SO IF DAMON FORREST GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH. 
          CAN YOU KIND OF DRAW A LINE RIGHT ALONG THERE? CORRECT. AND SO THERE WAS A PLAN TO PUT SOME LIMITED PARKING ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THAT
STREET. 
          CORRECT. AND SO THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THAT AREA,
THERE IS ALL CITY OWNED LAND, AND IT'S A LOT OF TREES AND STUFF THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESERVE. CORRECT. 
          THAT WAS ACTUALLY ACQUIRED AS PART OF THIS ENTIRE 60 APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRE PARCEL. 
          SO IT WAS PRIVATELY HELD AT THAT TIME, AND IT WAS ADJACENT TO THE PARK AND THE PRESERVE,
BUT IT WAS ACQUIRED AS PART OF THIS EFFORT. 
          SO OUR INTENTION WITH THAT IS, IS AS YOU DRIVE,
AS YOU DRAW THIS LINE ACROSS WITH NEYMAN, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF PARKING BEING NEEDED HERE,
BUT IT'S INTENDED TO BE MINIMAL SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AS MUCH NATURAL BUFFER ON THAT PROPERTY AS POSSIBLE, WHETHER WHETHER IT'S PARKING OR WHATEVER ELSE ALONG NAAMAN. 
          SO THAT THERE IS A THERE'S A YOU MIGHT RECALL,
THERE'S AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO SPRING CREEK PRESERVE. 
          AND SO ALL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR ACCORDING TO THAT ORDINANCE. 
          SO THE PARKING WOULDN'T JUST BE ONE BIG SLAB OF CONCRETE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THERE. 
          IT MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE YOU WHERE YOU KIND OF GO AROUND SOME TREES OR HAVE SOME POCKETS OF
PARKING OR DO SOME THINGS LIKE THAT, OR MAYBE JUST WEAR THE AREAS EXTRA WIDE THERE AND NOT THE NARROW PIECE AT THE NORTH END,
BECAUSE THERE WAS CONCERN THAT THAT PARKING LOT IS GOING TO BE LIT UP AND THAT WHAT'S THAT LIGHT GOING TO DO TO THE PRESERVE? AND I SAID, WELL, HAVE YOU SEEN THE STREETLIGHTS IN GARLAND THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THOSE
THINGS? ALL THINGS STRAIGHT DOWN. IT'S NOT THE ENCORE STREET LIGHTS IN VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
ARE STILL GOING THIS WAY. 
          [04:10:04]
AND SO SO I AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO WHEN WE YOU GOT TO LIGHT UP THE PARKING
LOT, SON? YES, SIR. THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION TO RAISE. 
          AND SO WE'VE ACTUALLY COMMUNICATED WITH THE WITH THE SPRING CREEK PRESERVE GROUP ABOUT
THIS. 
          WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS CONTEMPLATED ALL OF THOSE FIXTURES THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY IN A
PARKING AREA ARE, ARE FULL CUTOFF FIXTURES. SO THEY'RE MOUNTED AT 90 DEGREES OR ACTUALLY ZERO DEGREES. 
          ALL THE LIGHTING IS DOWN LIGHTING. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHTING DESIGN AND IT'S,
YOU KNOW, TO MINIMIZE ANY SPILL LIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINE. 
          SO THE, THE ALIGNMENT OF THE PARKING THAT'S PROPOSED WAS,
IS IN THIS GENERAL AREA RIGHT HERE. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF OF NORMAN JUST FOR THE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SLOPE THERE THAT
NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR. 
          DRAINAGE AND UTILITIES. SO IT'S A SNUG AS IT CAN BE AGAINST THERE. 
          BUT WE ABSOLUTELY ARE AWARE OF THE SENSITIVITY FOR FOR SPILL LIGHT AND GLARE IN THE
ADJACENT PROPERTY. 
          YEAH. OKAY. WELL THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, A LEGITIMATE CONCERN. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AND HAVE THAT PUBLICLY MENTIONED THAT THAT YOU'RE VERY
AWARE OF THAT OF THAT CONCERN BY, BY THE, YOU KNOW, THE PRESERVATION SOCIETY, AMONG OTHERS. 
          AND SO, NO, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD,
GOOD REASONING HERE. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF LAND THERE THAT JUST CANNOT BE REDEVELOPED,
LIKE THE FLOODPLAIN WHERE IT'S ALL ONE PIECE. 
          WE'VE GOT TO PUT THE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT FLOODPLAIN LAND AND LEAVE IT
OUT THERE. 
          THAT'S ONE THAT TRIANGLES. ONE BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY. 
          AND SO IT MAKES IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND AND,
LIKE THEM BE LISTED DURING THE TOWN HALL TO TO GO AHEAD. 
          AND THAT'S HOW WE CAN CONTROL IT, SINCE WE DON'T OWN IT,
IS OWN IT TO WHAT? TO WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE. AND THAT WAY WE ATTRACT THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WE WANT TO
ATTRACT TO THAT AREA. 
          SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT MAKE,
YOU KNOW, THE REAL IMPACT ON THE PRESERVE IS WHAT I HEAR ABOUT THE MOST. 
          AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY CONSIDERING THAT. 
          AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT'S THAT'S THE EXACT ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? JUST BE CLEAR. 
          WE'RE NOT REZONING IT TONIGHT OR TOMORROW, BUT THERE'LL BE MANY HEARINGS AND GO BEFORE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST. 
          AND THROUGH THE NORMAL ZONING PROCESS AS IT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH. 
          YES, SIR. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU,
SIR. 
          [10. Consider Establishing a City of Garland Property Assessed Clean Energy (PACE) Program]
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE PICKING UP THE PACE HERE AS WE'RE GOING TO ITEM TEN. 
          CONSIDERING ESTABLISHING A CITY OF GARLAND PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT'S FOR YOU. COUNCILMAN BASS, THAT WAS OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ALL WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT PACE PROGRAM. 
          PACE STANDS FOR PROPERLY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY. 
          THIS IS THE BASICALLY THE FINANCE FINANCING MECHANISM FOR THE ALLOWING PROPERTY OWNERS TO
FUND ENERGY EFFICIENCY ON THAT PROPERTY. SO TONIGHT WE ARE ASKING YOUR CONSIDERATION OF CITY OF TO CREATING THE CITY
OF GARLAND PACE PROGRAM. 
          SO I HAVE A FEW SLIDES TO KIND OF EXPLAIN AN OVERVIEW OF THE PACE PROGRAM. 
          BUT WE HAVE TONIGHT MR. LEE MCCORMICK FROM THE LONE STAR PACE. 
          SO HE HELPED ME TO PUT TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION. 
          SO HE GOING TO HELP ME LATER? PROBABLY. IF YOU HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTION,
HE CAN ANSWER THAT. 
          SO WHAT IS THE PACE AGAIN? THE TEXAS PACE ACT WAS SIGNED AND ADOPTED IN 2013. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY LONG PROGRAM. THEIR REGISTRATION ALLOWS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ESTABLISH. 
          C PAYS PROGRAM. C STANDS FOR COMMERCIAL. OTHER STATES ALLOW TO DO THE R PACE,
WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL, BUT THE STATE OF TEXAS IS ONLY. C PACE PROGRAM WE HAVE. 
          THIS IS A LOW COST A LONG TERM FINANCING FROM A PRIVATE LENDER FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY. 
          ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND WATER EFFICIENCY. UPGRADES TO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. 
          THE COST OF FINANCING TYPICALLY ALIGNED TO BE EQUAL OR LESS THAN THE AMOUNT SAVED IN
UTILITIES. 
          THE PROPERTY OWNERS ENTER INTO VOLUNTARY VOLUNTARY PROPERTY ASSESSMENT 100% PROJECT
FINANCING OF QUALIFIED IMPROVEMENTS WITH EXTENDED TERMS, AND THIS ASSESSMENT ARE PAID OVER THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO HOW DOES THIS WORK? SO PROPERTY OWNER VOLUNTARILY AGREE TO FINANCE ELIGIBLE
IMPROVEMENT. 
          [04:15:07]
SO CITY OR COUNTY PLACES AN ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THE REPAYMENT IS MADE OVER TIME THROUGH THE PROPERTY TAX BILL. 
          SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TAX BILL, THERE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ANOTHER ITEM. 
          YOU'RE PAYING ANOTHER TAXING ENTITY. BUT COSTS MAY BE PASSED TO TENANTS IF THE SHOPPING
CENTER OR THE RETAIL SPACE, THE PROPERTY OWNER USES THIS SPACE FINANCING. 
          SO THEY CAN USE THAT FOR THE NET TRIPLE NET OR SOMETHING SO THAT TENANT CAN PAY FOR THOSE
COSTS, OR IF IT'S A CONDOMINIUM OR SOMETHING. SO PROPERTY OWNERS CAN PAY FOR THOSE TAKING CARE OF
THOSE PAYMENT AS WELL. 
          BUT ALSO IT CAN BE PAID OFF BY OWNER OR ASSUMED BY NEXT PURCHASER. 
          ASSESSMENT STAYS STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY IF SOLD. 
          IF NOT PAID EARLY FROM PROCEEDS OF THE SALE. SO IT'S REALLY THE KEY IS THIS FINANCING IS
GOING TO STAY ON THE PROPERTY. 
          SO BENEFIT OF PACE PROGRAM SO BENEFIT FOR THE COMPANIES IS DEFINITELY ACCESS TO CAPITAL
FOR IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT LARGE UPFRONT COST. IMPROVE THE CASH FLOW PROPERTY VALUE ENHANCEMENT NO PERSONAL GUARANTEE OR IMPACT ON
CREDIT. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY TIED TO THE PROPERTY UTILITY COST SAVING. 
          DEFINITELY THAT BENEFIT FOR THE COMPANIES BENEFIT FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT,
IN THIS CASE FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. 
          AND DEFINITELY THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. 
          IT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE BUSINESSES OR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER,
IMPROVING EXISTING BUILDING STOCK AND INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES. AND OF COURSE, INCREASED ENERGY AND WATER CONSERVATION FACILITATES BUSINESS
RETENTION AND EXPANSION. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, THIS IS NO FINANCIAL RISK FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. 
          SO MR. MCCORMICK, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE LONE STAR PIECE ABOUT LONE STAR PACE,
ESTABLISHED IN 2017. 
          THEY ARE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. THEY THEY SERVES 28 LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. 
          IT'S LISTED ON THEIR FOR THE NEIGHBORING CITY AND THE COUNTY. 
          IT'S A DALLAS COUNTY. ESTABLISHED THEIR PROGRAM IN 2016,
AND THEY'RE CALLING COUNTY ESTABLISHED THAT THEY ARE A PACE PROGRAM IN 2022. 
          NORTH TEXAS AND NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COG. THEY'RE ALSO IN A PROCESS OF CREATING THEIR OWN
PACE PROGRAM AS WELL. 
          SO BEFORE THAT IF THE COMPANY IN GARLAND WANTED TO APPLY FOR THIS AND THEY CAN GO TO
DALLAS COUNTY PROGRAM. 
          AND ALSO CITY OF ROCKWALL, ESTABLISHED IN 2023. 
          SO IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, NEXT STEP WILL BE A DRAFT RESOLUTION TO ADOPT
THE C PACE PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. EACH JURISDICTION IS ALLOWED TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN
REQUIREMENTS FOR A PROJECT WITHIN OUR TERMS OF THE TEXAS PACE ACT. ENGAGE LONESTAR PACE AS A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. 
          SO AS A CITY STAFF, IT'S NOT REALLY THE TIME CONSUMING ANYTHING,
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE REALLY HELP US TO ADMINISTER ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM. 
          LIKE, AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO ADMINISTER THE PACE PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN ALSO THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US TO PROMOTE THE SPACE PROGRAM,
ASSISTING WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ROLL OUT THE PACE PROGRAM, AND THEN COORDINATING PROJECT CLOSING AND CLOSING PROCESS. 
          AND ALSO, I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ISSUING THE ANNUAL REPORT TO THE JURISDICTION. 
          WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MAYOR PRO TEM,
LOOK, I THINK THIS IS A PHENOMENAL PROGRAM, AND I WAS JUST SPEAKING WITH OUR CITY MANAGER,
MR. REX, LAST WEEK ABOUT HOW WE CAN INCENTIVIZE BUSINESSES TO BE BETTER STEWARDS OF THE EARTH
AND NOT PUNISH PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, LIKE INCREASED REGULATIONS AND ALL OF THAT. 
          BUT REALLY JUST LIKE INVITE GOOD DEVELOPMENTS THAT,
YOU KNOW, ARE GREEN. 
          I KNOW THAT'S A BAD WORD SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY HERE,
BUT IT'S TRUE. 
          LIKE TO JUST BE LIKE, OUR AIR MEANS SOMETHING. 
          OUR OUR STUFF MEANS SOMETHING TO US AND WE DON'T WANT TO POLLUTE STUFF. 
          I THINK THAT'S AMAZING. SO THIS IS THIS IS SUCH A PROGRAM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO
INCENTIVIZE RATHER THAN, LIKE, DEMONIZE BUSINESSES FOR JUST BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE EARTH. 
          [04:20:07]
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER BASS. 
          THANK YOU. LEE. WOULD YOU MIND COME ON UP HERE,
PLEASE? THANK YOU. FULL DISCLOSURE, I'VE TALKED WITH LEE AND STAFF ABOUT THIS OVER THE PHONE BEFORE. SO STAFF IN PERSON. 
          LEE OVER THE PHONE. SO LEE, COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS PROGRAM IS ADMINISTERED BY ALSO BY DALLAS COUNTY AND BY
COLLIN COUNTY. 
          SO THEN THE QUESTION MAY BE, YOU KNOW, WELL,
WHY WHY WOULD WE AS A CITY NEED TO DO IT AS WELL? WELL, IF YOU'VE EVER HAD ANY INTERACTION WITH DALLAS COUNTY YOU KNOW HOW HOW THAT PROCESS
GOES. 
          BUT ALSO, LEE, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE,
RIGHT HERE IT SAYS EACH JURISDICTION IS ALLOWED TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN REQUIREMENTS FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE TERMS OF THE TEXAS PACE ACT. 
          SO CAN YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT? YOU KNOW, SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN DALLAS COUNTY AND COLLIN COUNTY AND HARRIS COUNTY? ABSOLUTELY. WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY,
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. THE MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. LEE MCCORMICK WITH LONESTAR PACE. AS I MENTIONED, WE DO PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION FOR CITY AND COUNTY PROGRAMS AROUND THE
STATE. 
          THE NICE THING ABOUT THE PACE STATUTE IS IT DOES PROVIDE IT'S PRETTY BROAD STATUTE. 
          IT'S VERY LOOSELY WORDED. AND SO IT GIVES THE FLEXIBILITY FOR CITIES AND COUNTIES TO SET
UP A PROGRAM AS EXPANSIVE OR RESTRICTIVE AS THEY WANT. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S ONE SECTION OF THE STATUTE THAT IS A LITTLE TRICKY FOR EVERYBODY
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A COUPLE TERMS THAT ARE NOT DEFINED. 
          THERE'S A SECTION THAT RELATES TO QUALIFYING PROJECTS,
AND IT SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT USE PACE FINANCING FOR FACILITIES FOR UNDEVELOPED LOTS OR LOTS UNDERGOING DEVELOPMENT AT THE TIME OF THE ASSESSMENT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THE STATUTE DOES NOT DEFINE FACILITIES AND IT DOES NOT DEFINE. 
          UNDEVELOPED LOTS. SO FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS, IF THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN PLACE,
THERE'S BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF DEBATE ON WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS. 
          THE NICE THING ABOUT THE STATUTE IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT DEFINED,
IT ACTUALLY GIVES SOME FLEXIBILITY TO THE CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS ON HOW THEY WANT TO DEFINE THAT. SO WE'VE SEEN KIND OF THE FULL SPECTRUM OF HOW
IT'S DEFINED. 
          HARRIS COUNTY WENT VERY AGGRESSIVE. THEY WANTED TO SEE A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND A
LOT OF SUSTAINABILITY. SO THEY ACTUALLY ADOPTED THE FEMA FLOOD PLAN DEFINITION OF DEVELOPED LOT. AND THAT BASICALLY SAYS IF THERE'S ANY DRAINAGE ON IT,
ANY ROADS ON IT, AND THE EQUIPMENT PART FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME,
IT'S A DEVELOPED LOT. SO PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING QUALIFIES, EVEN A GREEN FIELD FOR THE MOST PART. THEN YOU HAVE COUNTIES LIKE DENTON COUNTY AND COLLIN COUNTY THAT BASICALLY ADOPTED A
DEFINITION OUT OF THE TEXAS WATER STATUTE THAT SAYS THAT DEFINES A DEVELOPED PROPERTY,
WHICH INCLUDES LOTS IN PARENTHESES AS ANY PROPERTY THAT HAS WATER, SEWER OR DRAINAGE ON PROPERTY. SO AGAIN, MOST PROPERTIES WILL COFFEY HAVE DETENTION POND
OR IF YOU HAVE SEWERS, YOU KNOW CULVERTS IN THERE QUALIFIES. THEN THERE'S ALSO A STAKEHOLDER GROUP IN TEXAS
CALLED KEEPING PACE IN TEXAS. 
          THAT BASICALLY IS A BUNCH OF STAKEHOLDERS. AND THEY ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH THE MOST
RESTRICTIVE DEFINITION, WHICH IS STILL NOT BAD. IT BASICALLY SAYS IT'S KIND OF THE EASY BUTTON. 
          IT BASICALLY SAYS IF THE IF THE CAD SHOWS THE PROPERTY AS IMPROVED,
THEN IT'S A DEVELOPED LOT. 
          SO IT'S THE EASY YOU GOT A THIRD PARTY SAYING,
HERE'S A, HERE'S THE CAD, IT SHOWS IT'S IMPROVED. 
          IT'S A DEVELOPED LOT. AND THEY ALSO PUT A LITTLE CAVEAT IN THERE THAT IF IT DOESN'T SHOW
AS DEVELOP LOT, BUT YOU GO TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND THEY BASICALLY PROVIDE CONFIRMATION EITHER EMAIL
OR LETTER SAYING AT THE NEXT UPDATE TO THE CAT, IT'LL SHOW THE DEVELOPER JUST KIND OF TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT TIMING,
THEN IT ACTUALLY WILL QUALIFY AS WELL. SO THAT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST VARIATION BETWEEN THE COUNTY PROGRAMS IN THE STATE. THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ADMINISTER,
WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS THAT WE MAKE SURE ARE IN THE LANGUAGE. 
          WE MAKE SURE THAT THE OWNER CONTRACT AND THE LENDER CONTRACTS HAVE TWO THINGS THAT ARE NOT
IN THE STATUTES, BUT THINGS THAT WE FEEL ARE IMPORTANT. AND THAT,
NUMBER ONE IS UNDER THE STATUTES, BECAUSE THE PACE ASSESSMENT IS AN ASSESSMENT, IT HAS THE SAME STANDING AS A PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENT. 
          BECAUSE OF THAT, IN THE EVENT OF DEFAULT FORECLOSURE ON THE PROPERTY,
THOSE WOULD HAVE THE SAME STANDING UNDER THE STATUTE. 
          WITH REGARDS TO PRIORITY OF PAYMENT, OUR DOCUMENTS THAT WE USE HAVE SUBORDINATION OF THE
PACE FINANCING TO THE AD VALOREM TAXES. 
          SO IN THE EVENT OF A SALE OF THAT PROPERTY, THE CITY AND COUNTY GET PAID FIRST BEFORE THE
ASSESSMENT GETS PAID FOR. 
          SO THAT'S ONE PROTECTION. THE OTHER PROTECTION THAT WE HAVE IN THERE IS WE HAVE THE CAMERA
IS NOW DRAWING BLANK. 
          WE HAVE THIS POOR NATION AND WE HAVE. IT WILL COME TO ME IN A MINUTE,
BUT WE HAVE SOME OTHER, OTHER PROTECTIONS IN THERE IN ADDITION TO THE STATUTES. AND THE STATUTES HAVE VERY STRICT PROTECTIONS FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAFF WITH REGARDS TO
THE PACE PROGRAM, BUT OVERALL, THE PROGRAMS ARE VERY CONSISTENT. 
          [04:25:01]
THE MAIN DIFFERENCES REALLY ARE JUST THE ADOPTION OR THE INTERPRETATION OF THAT LANGUAGE
REGARDING, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES FOR ANY OF OUR LOTS. AND THEN AGAIN,
THE ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS O INDEMNIFICATION LANGUAGE. 
          WE HAVE RELEASED AN INDEMNIFICATION LANGUAGE IN OUR DOCUMENTS. EVEN THOUGH THERE IS
PROTECTIONS IN STATUTE. WE WANT TO HAVE THE OWNERS AND THE LENDERS SIGNING A DOCUMENT SAYING THAT THEY'RE INDEMNIFIED AND RELEASING THE CITY OR COUNTY FROM ANY LIABILITY WITH
REGARDS TO THE PACE OF FINANCING, WHICH THE ATTORNEYS USUALLY LIKE. THANK YOU. AND AND LONE STAR IS THE THIRD PARTY. 
          RIGHT. SO YOU'RE A THIRD PARTY THERE, A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS PROGRAM. 
          WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CITY ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM THEMSELVES AS OPPOSED TO
HAVING A THIRD PARTY LIKE LONE STAR ADMINISTRATOR. 
          THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO FAR IN TEXAS, WE ADMINISTER FOR 28 CITIES AND COUNTIES. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY A TOTAL OF OVER 100 THAT HAVE ADOPTED PACE PROGRAMS. THE CHALLENGE OF HAVING A CITY STAFF ADOPT A PROGRAM IS JUST REALLY THE COST. 
          BY HAVING A THIRD PARTY. THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITY. 
          THERE'S NO STAFF TIME INVOLVED. AND WHEN WE'RE MARKETING A PROGRAM,
WE'RE USUALLY MARKETING FOR A REGION. 
          WE'RE GOING. WE'RE TALKING TO DEVELOPER CONFERENCES AND,
YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE DALLAS-FORT WORTH METROPLEX AREA. 
          WE'RE OUT THERE FULL TIME MARKETING THE PROGRAM. 
          SO IT'S ALMOST DIFFICULT FOR US. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PACE. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR THE WHOLE STATE. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT JUST FOR FOR
GARLAND. 
          WE'RE COMING OUT HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SESSIONS WITH GARLAND. WE HAVE TO TALK WITH
THE EDC AND THE CHAMBERS. WE TALK TO YOUR DEVELOPERS OUT HERE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE MARKETING WE DO IS KIND OF MORE BROAD BASED. AND HAVING JUST STAFF DEVOTED JUST TO A PACE
PROGRAM, WHEN YOU MAY ONLY HAVE 1 OR 2 PROJECTS A YEAR. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, LAST YEAR WE DID 186 MILLION STATEWIDE,
BUT IT WAS ONLY 11 PROJECTS, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PROJECTS BEING DONE AT THIS DATE AND TIME WITH REGARDS TO PACE. REGARDING ANY PROGRAM,
WE DID 186 OF THE 240 MILLION THAT WAS DONE STATEWIDE, EVEN THOUGH WE ONLY HAVE 28 JURISDICTIONS OUT OF OVER 100. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF GETTING OUT THERE AND GETTING THE WORD IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE. 
          AWESOME. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TODAY. AND ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IS I
YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. 
          THAT'S WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT. I WANTED TO DO MORE RESEARCH ABOUT IT AND GOT STAFF
INVOLVED. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS AND AND GRABBING ON TO IT. THIS IS A GREAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US IMPLEMENT IT WITH THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US AS AGGRESSIVE AS POSSIBLE. 
          THAT MEANS ADOPTING THE MOST LENIENT, LENIENT RULES WE CAN TO GET MORE,
MORE DEVELOPMENT QUALIFIED. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A PACE PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE IMPLEMENTED. 
          ABSOLUTELY. SO ACTUALLY, IF WITH YOUR PERMISSION,
I'D LIKE TO HAND OUT SOME ANNUAL REPORTS. 
          THIS IS OUR IS MY MARKETING DIRECTOR. TO ME,
ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR TODAY THAT SHE SPENT THREE MONTHS PUTTING TOGETHER ANNUAL REPORTS, AND I NEED TO HAND THOSE OUT AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY I CAN. 
          WE HAVE DONE KIND OF THE FULL SPECTRUM OF PROJECTS HERE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT
WE'VE BEEN DOING PROPERTY ASSESSED, CLEAN ENERGY. WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING FROM A REHAB OF AN OLD HOSPITAL DOWN IN GALVESTON TO
AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, WHICH IS ABOUT $6 MILLION OF PACE FINANCING TO THE RECENT HALL ARTS DEVELOPMENT,
DOWNTOWN DALLAS, WHICH IS A, I THINK, A 30 PLUS STORY CONDOMINIUMS THAT WAS LEED CERTIFIED. 
          THE TYPES OF PROJECTS WE SEE A LOT OF PROBABLY IN RANK. 
          OF TYPES OF PROJECTS, A LOT OF HOSPITALITY. SO HOTELS AND MULTIFAMILY ARE THE TWO THAT WE
SEE THE MOST, BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE YOU CAN SAVE ENERGY AND WATER,
THOSE TWO TYPES OF BUILDINGS UTILIZE A LOT OF ENERGY AND WATER. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY WITH THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS TO MAKE A BIG IMPACT,
EVEN WITH A 10 OR 15% REDUCTION IN UTILIZATION, IT'S A HUGE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE SEEING MORE INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS THESE DAYS. 
          WE DID A RENOVATION OF AN OLD GM DELPHI FACILITY IN WICHITA COUNTY,
WHERE IT WAS AN OLD VACANT BUILDING. 
          IT WAS HUGE. IT WAS ENORMOUS. AND IT WAS IN WICHITA COUNTY,
OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE THAT WAS RENOVATED INTO A PLANT FIBER PROCESSING FACILITY USING PACE FINANCING. MORE RECENTLY, WE DID A LARGE DATA CENTER CONVERSION DOWN IN THE
CITY OF TOMBALL. THEY HAD AT THE OLD COMPAQ COMPUTER CORPORATE OFFICES BACK FROM THE 80S AND
90S WHEN THEY'RE LOCATED DOWN THERE. 
          A GROUP PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY AND CONVERTED ONE OF THEIR OLD WAREHOUSES THAT WAS SET
WITH A LOT OF ELECTRICITY AND FIBER INTO A DATA CENTER, ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE SECOND CONVERSION ON THAT PROJECT. 
          SECOND PHASE OF THAT PROJECT AS WE SPEAK, AS WE CLOSE IT TODAY. 
          SO WE DID ONE PROJECT, PART OF THAT PROJECT LAST YEAR,
ANOTHER PART THIS YEAR. SO I WILL SAY OUR GROUP, OUR, OUR PRINCIPALS HAVE DONE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SINCE 2003,
AND WE'VE DONE OVER 40 BILLION OF FINANCING OF PROJECTS NATIONWIDE. 
          [04:30:06]
ALL PROJECTS THAT TAKE PRIVATE DOLLARS INTO PRIVATE PROJECTS BUT HAVE SOME GOVERNMENTAL
INVOLVEMENT, WHETHER IT'S NEW MARKET TAX CREDITS, RECOVERY ZONE,
FACILITY BONDS OR TAX EXEMPT OR A PROPERTY TAX CLEAN ENERGY, THAT'S ALL PRIVATE DOLLARS IN THE PRIVATE PROJECTS. BUT YOU HAVE GOVERNMENTAL OVERSIGHT,
WHETHER IT'S A CONDUIT FINANCING THAT REQUIRES A GOVERNMENTAL ISSUER OR PACE, THAT REQUIRES A CITY OR COUNTY TO BE INVOLVED BECAUSE THAT ASSESSMENT CAN ONLY BE PLACED
ON THE PROPERTY BY A CITY OR COUNTY, AND THAT ASSESSMENT IS THE SECURITY FOR THOSE LENDERS,
WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO LOAN OUT FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS ON THEIR FINANCING VERSUS THE TYPICAL 7 TO 10 YEARS. AND THE WHOLE GOAL OF PACE, WHICH WAS MENTIONED EARLIER,
IS TO PROVIDE A CARROT TO THOSE DEVELOPERS TO GO WITH HIGHER EFFICIENCY VERSUS THE WEB, WHERE YOUR, YOU KNOW, ORDINANCES AND REQUIREMENTS. 
          IT'S IF YOU GO HIGHER EFFICIENCY ON YOUR PROJECTS,
YOU CAN NOW ACCESS THIS TYPE OF FINANCING, WHICH ALIGNS THOSE UTILITY BILL SAVINGS FROM THOSE HIGHER EFFICIENCY EQUIPMENT WITH THE
COST OF THE FINANCING. 
          SO MANY PROJECTS ARE CASHFLOW NEUTRAL FROM DAY ONE,
WHERE WITH TRADITIONAL FINANCING IT'S ONLY 7 TO 10 YEARS. 
          YOU HAVE THE UPFRONT COST ON THE FRONT END, BUT THE SAVINGS COME OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS,
SO THERE'S A MISALIGNMENT OF THE COST AND BENEFIT. 
          THE LONGER TERM AMORTIZATION AND PAYMENTS OF THE PACE FINANCING ALLOW YOU TO ALIGN THOSE
UTILITY PAYMENTS WITH THE SMALLER DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS, WHICH IS THE WHOLE GOAL OF PACE. I'M PROBABLY GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF NOW,
BUT I'M GOING TO ASK ANYWAY. 
          WE KNOW JACO. HAVE THE TWO OF YOU ALREADY IDENTIFIED A PROJECT THAT WE MAY BE LOOKING AT? JUST GOT TO WAIT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. OR CAN YOU TALK ABOUT IT NOW? WELL, I WILL OPEN FOR EXECUTIVES. OKAY. SO YEAH,
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A GARAGES OF AMERICA PROJECT THAT'S LOCATED OFF OF THE GEORGE BUSH HIGHWAY. YES. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE A NUMBER OF GARAGES PROJECTS. 
          WE'VE DONE ONE IN CARROLLTON AND WE'VE DONE ONE IN FRISCO SO FAR. 
          SO THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD. WE ALSO HAVE ONE THAT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR ANOTHER VERY CLOSE
CITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PUBLIC YET, BUT YEAH,
THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB. 
          THERE BEEN A VERY NICE JOB GOING ABOVE CODE WITH REGARDS TO THEIR BUILDINGS TO GET THE
ADDITIONAL ENERGY AND WATER CONSERVATION ON THE STREET IN DISTRICT THREE. 
          THAT IS IN DISTRICT ONE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. SIR. OKAY. 
          TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING AND GETTING CITY. 
          HAVING A CITY RUN THIS PROGRAM AND HAVING SAY YOU RUN THIS PROGRAM,
YOUR ORGANIZATION. 
          WHAT'S THE COST? SAVINGS COST? BENEFITS? COST. 
          WHAT'S WHAT'S THE COST SAVINGS OR COST OF LOST? SO RIGHT NOW IF SO, RIGHT NOW, OF THE 100 PLUS CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT HAVE PACE
PROGRAMS, NONE OF THEM I CAN I APOLOGIZE. CITY OF DALLAS DOES HAVE INTERNAL STAFF INVOLVED,
BUT THEY ALSO USE A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          SO THEY HAVE BOTH. THEY HAVE INTERNAL STAFF AND THE THIRD PARTY. 
          EVERY OTHER CITY OR COUNTY THAT I'M AWARE OF ONLY USES A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR,
BECAUSE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY OR COUNTY. 
          SO WE GET PAID WHENEVER TRANSACTION CLOSES, WE GET A CLOSING FEE PAID FOR BY THE PROPERTY
OWNER, AND THEN THERE'S AN ANNUAL ADMINISTRATION FEE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING ALL
THEIR ANNUAL COMPLIANCE ITEMS. SO THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITY WITH REGARDS TO IMPLEMENTING PROGRAM. THE BENEFIT IS, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE GARAGES,
YOU'RE NOW GETTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH A 40 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR DEVELOPMENT GOING INTO THE CITY, WHICH IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE TAX BASE. 
          THAT'S FOR A NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR A RENOVATION PROJECT,
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU NOW HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S GETTING UPGRADED AND IMPROVES THE PROPERTY VALUE OF THAT BUILDING. SO THE BIG BENEFIT FOR THE CITY IS REALLY JUST THE PROPERTY TAX
IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE ECONOMIC, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE PACE FINANCING. 
          AND THEN I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CITY'S GOALS ARE WITH REGARDS TO SUSTAINABILITY,
BUT IT ALSO COUNTS TOWARDS THE CITY'S GOALS WITH REGARDS TO ENERGY AND WATER CONSERVATION AND WHICH WHICH DIRECTION? YEAH. IS YOU'LL YOU'LL HAVE OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS. SO WHICH DIRECTION DO YOU FEEL THAT SHE SHOULD SHOULD? SHOULD GARLAND GO WITH THIS PROGRAM? WHICH DIRECTION YOU THINK THAT YOU FEEL THAT SHE IS
HEADING? OR YOU CAN ANSWER TO. I'LL LET YOU ANSWER. WELL,
WE'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER YOU TELL US. 
          DO WE GET. WE WERE HAPPY TO DO. BUT NOW FOR THIS I BELIEVE IN LOOKING AT THE OTHER
JURISDICTION. 
          [04:35:01]
IT'S REALLY NORMAL AND TO. IT'S REALLY. THEY WORK WITH THE THIRD PARTY TO ADMINISTER THIS
PROGRAM. 
          SO I BELIEVE WE OUR GOAL AND OUR DIRECTION, ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION IS REALLY ENGAGING
THIRD PARTY SUCH LAWS AND START PACE TO HELP US TO ESTABLISH THIS PROGRAM AND ALSO SO MANAGE THAT PROGRAM. 
          AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, WELL, I'M WITH ONE STORE PACE. 
          I'M A LITTLE BIASED, BUT YEAH OKAY, OKAY. I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND THE THIRD PARTY. 
          THE NICE THING ABOUT OUR, OUR ENGAGEMENT OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT IS IF YOU'RE
NOT HAPPY WITH THIS, YOU CAN CANCEL IT ON 30 DAYS. NOTICE. WE DON'T. 
          THERE'S NOT A LONG TERM LOCK IN. BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS WE'VE BEEN DOING PROGRAM
ADMINISTRATION FOR CITIES AND COUNTIES AROUND THE COUNTRY SINCE 2003, AND WE'VE NEVER HAD A GOVERNMENTAL CONTRACT TERMINATED OUT OF ALL OF OUR,
OUR GOVERNMENTAL CLIENTS. 
          SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL,
YOU'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATION. 
          THEN WE ARE TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH THIS. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YES. MOVE ON THEN,
TO ITEM NUMBER 11, ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE OR ADMINISTRATIVE 
          [11. Administrative Services Committee Report]
SERVICES COMMITTEE. REPORT. COUNCIL MEMBER BEARD,
HERE ARE THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE. 
          I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE COMPRISES OF MYSELF. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. OUR LAST MEETING WAS ON JULY 24TH,
AND WE ADDRESSED THREE ISSUES THAT ARE COMING BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT. THE FIRST ONE IS SIGNAGE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND CIP PROJECTS,
AND THIS WAS BROUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE ON FEBRUARY 23RD WORK SESSION BY MAYOR PRO TEM LUKE. I'M SORRY,
MAYOR. 
          YEAH. OKAY. AND COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON IS A SECOND,
AND TIFFANY IS NOT. 
          THERE'S TIFFANY. OKAY. OKAY. TIFFANY'S GONNA GIVE US A LITTLE PRESENTATION. 
          WELCOME. MAYOR HEADRICK, CITY COUNCIL. CITY MANAGER REX. 
          I WILL HOPEFULLY BE QUICK FOR YOU THIS EVENING,
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ENDURED A LOT ALREADY. 
          AND YOU STILL HAVE MORE TO GO. SO I AM HERE TO REPORT OUT ON THE TRANSLATION OF OUR CITY
NOTICES, AND WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE OR PROPOSED FOR THEM,
THE MAIN SCOPE WAS WHAT INFORMATION WE'RE PUTTING OUT FOR OUR CIP AND DEVELOPMENT RELATED PROJECTS. 
          BUT I DID BROADEN THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT IN LOOKING AT POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO THAT WHATEVER WE DID HAVE, WE COULD IMPLEMENT CITYWIDE. 
          SO THE GUIDING QUESTIONS THAT I USED FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT,
RESEARCH AND RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WERE UP ON THE SCREEN. 
          WHAT ARE OUR CURRENT PRACTICES AND THEN WHAT POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS COULD HELP ENSURE THAT
OUR NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION? SO IN TALKING WITH A BUNCH OF DEPARTMENTS I'M GOING TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT I
FOUND FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED CITYWIDE. SO WHEN TALKING WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT,
THEY USE ROAD SIGNS THAT THEY PLACE AT LOCATIONS WHERE THERE ARE PROPOSED CHANGES TO ZONING. THOSE SIGNS ARE IN ENGLISH ONLY, BUT THERE IS A QR CODE THAT YOU CAN SCAN AND IT
BRINGS YOU UP TO INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE THAT'S IN ENGLISH, SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE. AND THEY ALSO MAIL LETTERS TO HOMES AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE WITHIN
THAT SAME AREA WHERE THE PROPOSED ZONING IS BEING CHANGED. AND THOSE LETTERS ARE MAILED IN ALL THREE LANGUAGES AS WELL ENGLISH,
SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE. 
          STARTING TO TALK ABOUT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS,
ENGINEERING AND OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT OFFICE. 
          AND THEY PLACE ROAD SIGNS AT PROJECT SITES ONCE THE WORK HAS STARTED AND THOSE SIGNS ARE
IN ENGLISH ONLY. 
          THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOR SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS,
WHEN THOSE ARE GOING TO BE HELD, THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS THAT ARE IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ENGLISH
ONLY AS WELL. 
          AND THEN WE DISTRIBUTE FLIERS FOR THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT ARE MAINLY IN ENGLISH. 
          BUT WE HAVE DONE TRANSLATIONS IN THE PAST, IF THAT'S REQUESTED,
AND THEN THE PRESENTATIONS THEMSELVES FOR THOSE MEETINGS ARE IN ENGLISH. 
          MOVING ON TO WATER UTILITIES, CAPITAL PROJECTS AGAIN,
ROAD SIGNS PLACED AT PROJECT SITES WHEN THE WORK HAS STARTED THAT ARE IN ENGLISH. 
          SOMETIMES THERE ARE DOOR HANGERS THAT ARE PUT ON HOMES WITHIN A WORK AREA. 
          THOSE ARE DOUBLE SIDED ENGLISH AND SPANISH. AND THEN FOR LARGE SCALE EVENTS LIKE WE
RECENTLY HAD, WHERE WE WERE NOTIFYING EVERYBODY OF THE TYPE OF SERVICE LINE MATERIALS THAT ARE BY THEM. 
          THOSE LETTERS ARE MAILED IN ENGLISH, SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE FOR OUR STREETS CAPITAL
PROJECTS. 
          [04:40:05]
AGAIN, ROAD SIGNS PLACED AT PROJECT SITES. ONCE THAT WORK IS COMPLETED,
THAT'S IN ENGLISH. 
          AND THEN SOMETIMES THERE ARE ALSO LETTERS THAT ARE DELIVERED TO HOMES WITHIN AN AREA WHERE
THE WORK IS BEING DONE, AND THAT'S ENGLISH AS WELL. BUT I MENTIONED THAT WE KIND OF BROADEN THAT SCOPE A LITTLE
BIT. 
          SO I WANTED TO SEE WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS WERE DOING. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ONES HERE. CODE COMPLIANCE.
THEY MAIL LETTERS FOR VIOLATIONS AND CITATIONS. 
          THEIR LETTERS ARE IN ENGLISH, BUT THEY ALSO INCLUDE A SENTENCE IN SPANISH THAT REFERENCES
HOW TO RECEIVE TRANSLATION FOR THAT LETTER. 
          AND THEN OUR BUILDING INSPECTION POST SIGNS AT THE RON JONES BUILDING. 
          THEY ALSO OFFER A SELF-SERVICE KIOSK. THOSE SIGNS ARE PRINTED AND POSTED IN ENGLISH AND
SPANISH, AND THEN THEIR KIOSK CAN BE UTILIZED IN ENGLISH,
SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE. 
          AND ELL THEY PLACE DOOR HANGERS ON HOMES, SOMETIMES WITHIN THE WORK AREA THAT ARE DOUBLE
SIDED ENGLISH AND SPANISH. 
          AND THEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY DEPARTMENT USES YARD SIGNS AND DOOR HANGERS FOR THERE,
WHERE THE HARDEST NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAMS MAINLY TO REFERENCE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. 
          AND THOSE ARE ENGLISH AND SPANISH DOUBLE SIDED. 
          SO WHEN WE COME TO RECOMMENDATIONS WHAT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND IS A BASELINE. 
          WE KNOW THAT SOME DEPARTMENTS MAY BE DOING MORE THAN THIS,
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT AND BE SUSTAINABLE CITY WIDE, THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF PUT OUT AS OUR EXPECTATION TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
RESIDENTS HAVE THAT ACCESS TO INFORMATION. 
          SO WHEN IT COMES TO SIGNAGE, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT. 
          IT'S AN ENGLISH ONLY SIGN. BUT WHEN WE PUT A QR CODE,
LET'S HAVE A TRANSLATED SENTENCE UNDERNEATH THAT SAYS, YOU CAN SCAN THAT QR CODE FOR THE TRANSLATIONS. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, WHEN THEY GET TO OUR WEBSITE,
OUR WEBSITE CAN BE TRANSLATED IN ANY LANGUAGE, BUT WE CAN ALSO PLACE PARAGRAPHS OF INFORMATION THAT'S TRANSLATED ON THAT WEBSITE AS WELL. 
          BUT ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE HERE IS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND JUST REPLACE
EVERY SIGN AS NEW SIGNS NEED TO BE PRINTED, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS DESIGN SO THAT WE'RE NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COST
EFFECTIVE WITH THIS ROLLOUT LETTERS OR OTHER PRINTED MATERIALS. 
          SO YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE ALREADY MAILING THEM OUT IN ENGLISH,
SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE. 
          GREAT. OUR BASELINE IS GOING TO BE THAT IF THAT LETTER IS ENGLISH,
WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE A SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE SENTENCE THAT SAYS HOW YOU CAN GET A TRANSLATION. AND THEN FOR OUR PRESENTATIONS WE TALKED ABOUT YARD SIGNS WITHIN
NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          OUR YARD SIGNS ARE GOING TO BE WHATEVER LANGUAGE IS GOING TO BE SPOKEN AT THAT
PRESENTATION, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT IF OUR RESIDENTS SEE A SIGN IN A TRANSLATED LANGUAGE,
THEY WOULD EXPECT SOMEONE TO BE SPEAKING THAT LANGUAGE AT THE MEETING. 
          SO IF OUR PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE IN ENGLISH,
THEN OUR SIGN WOULD BE IN ENGLISH. 
          BUT IF WE WOULD HAVE A DUAL PRESENTATION, THEN WE CAN HAVE A DUAL SIGN. 
          BUT OUR FLIERS AND OUR WEBSITES ARE THINGS THAT WILL PROMOTE THAT PRESENTATION THAT BY ALL
MEANS WE CAN HAVE THOSE SENTENCES OF HOW TO RECEIVE TRANSLATION BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE COULD TAKE THAT PRESENTATION,
THAT POWERPOINT, SEND IT OFF TO TRANSLATION, AND SOMEBODY WHO NEEDED THAT, WE CAN GET IT TO THEM. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, WE DO WANT TO DO A BIG PUSH FOR TRANSLATION TOOLS THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN
USE THEMSELVES. 
          WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOOGLE LENS, THERE'S APPS THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LETTER,
YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, POINT YOUR PHONE AT IT AND IT CAN PROVIDE THE TRANSLATION. SO WHILE WE ARE GOING TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN, IF SOMEONE REQUESTS A TRANSLATION, WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN BE EMPOWERED TO GET THE TRANSLATIONS THEMSELVES. SO
WE'LL WE WILL DO A PUSH TO BRING AWARENESS TO THOSE DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT THEY CAN USE WITH THAT. THAT IS THE PRESENTATION QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. QUESTIONS. COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. THEN THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES ABOUT THE
RECOMMENDATIONS COUNCIL ABOUT CHANGING THE SIGNAGE WITH A QR CODE LETTERS WITH A HOW TO RECEIVE A TRANSLATION. 
          I THINK IT'S ALL COMMON SENSE STUFF. COUNCIL. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE UNANIMOUS ON THAT. YEAH,
I TOLD YOU I'D BE QUICK. THANKS. 
          OKAY. OUR SECOND ITEM WAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS. 
          THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED TO COMMITTEE ON MARCH 17TH,
WORK SESSION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON AND MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          AND WE HAVE NAOKO. YOU'RE NOT ANDY. OKAY. I'M HAPPY TO BE,
BUT. 
          OKAY. OKAY. SO I PRESENT IT TO THIS IN THE SAME PRESENTATION AS A FIVE SLIDE AT THE THE
LAST COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THERE WAS NO QUESTION, NO CONCERN, NO CHANGE. 
          SO I AM NOT GOING OVER THE PRESENTATION, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERN OR
ANYTHING NEED TO CLARIFY, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          [04:45:05]
COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROCESS? NO. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY. OUR THIRD ITEM WAS THE ALL ABOUT ALL ABILITIES COMMITTEE. 
          I AM TIRED, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME READING. IT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED TO COMMITTEE AT
THE JANUARY 6TH WORK SESSION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON AND MAYOR PRO TEM LUKE. OUR PRESENTATION,
WE HAVE A HANDOUT TODAY THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT WAS DONE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. AND WE HAVE MITCH BATES AND COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON TO NAME. 
          AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO TO COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. 
          AND SHE, SHE, I BELIEVE, WAS GOING TO TO TAKE THE DISCUSSION AS SHE HAD PROVIDED THE THE
HANDOUT. 
          YEAH. DID I GET THAT? OKAY. SO I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW REALLY WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO TALK
ABOUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO JUST WING IT. SO HERE WE ARE. 
          SO YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE A HAND OUT OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FOR THE ALL ABILITIES BOARD
JUST KIND OF TALKS ABOUT THE MISSION AND PURPOSE. WE'LL JUST DO THIS REALLY QUICK BECAUSE I THINK
YOU'VE ALL HEARD ME ON MY SOAPBOX. 
          THE BOARD WOULD EXIST TO ADVOCATE FOR SUPPORT AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR
INDIVIDUALS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND THEIR FAMILIES. 
          THE PURPOSE MIGHT INCLUDE ADVISING CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF ON POLICY PROGRAMS AND SERVICES, IDENTIFYING GAPS IN ACCESSIBILITY AND INCLUSION IN THE COMMUNITY,
RAISING AWARENESS AND FOSTERING UNDERSTANDING OF THE SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITY. 
          PROMOTING COLLABORATING BETWEEN CITY SCHOOLS,
NONPROFITS, AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. 
          SO WE HAVE DECIDED ON THE ALL ABILITIES COMMITTEE IS THE NAME. 
          WE ALSO DECIDED THAT WE WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL PERSON AS TO WHO THEY
WOULD WHO THEY FEEL WOULD BE THE BEST FIT FOR THEIR APPOINTEE. 
          NOW WE HAVE SUGGESTIONS WHEN WE'RE MAKING APPOINTMENTS. 
          THAT YOU KIND OF JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THE IDEAL PERSON YOUR IDEAL APPOINTEE,
WOULD HAVE A KNOWLEDGE IN WITH THE DISABILITIES AND DIFFERENT ABILITIES. 
          SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMEONE THAT PERSONALLY HAS SPECIAL NEEDS FAMILY MEMBERS OR CAREGIVERS. 
          EXPERTS AND PROFESSIONALS OR COMMUNITY ADVOCATES. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE ALL WERE PRETTY MINDFUL ABOUT WHEN WE'RE MAKING OUR APPOINTMENTS ALREADY AS
TO WHO IS AN ACTUAL FIT. 
          YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT A AN 18 YEAR OLD ON THE SENIOR CENTER OR THE SENIOR ADVISORY
COMMITTEE, SO WE'RE LEAVING THAT UP TO EVERYONE'S BEST JUDGMENT. 
          SO DON'T STEER US WRONG. THE THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE OR COULD POTENTIALLY BE RESPONSIBLE
FOR ADVISING CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES LIKE HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, EDUCATION,
EMPLOYMENT. 
          REVIEWING CITY PROGRAMS TO ENSURE THAT THEY MEET THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES,
HOSTING EVENTS LIKE ACCESSIBILITY EXPOS, CAREGIVING SUPPORT FAIRS, OR SPECIAL NEEDS AWARENESS MONTH INITIATIVES. 
          ACTING AS A LIAISON BETWEEN THE SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITY IN THE CITY,
GATHERING INPUT AND SHARING RESOURCES, I WILL SAY THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE A LARGE POPULATION OF PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT ABILITIES IN
MY DISTRICT, AND ONE OF OUR BIGGEST STRUGGLES IS LIKE WE HAVE A COUPLE THAT IS HEARING IMPAIRED. 
          SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE OR DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET THE SAME INFORMATION TO THEM
THAT EVERYONE ELSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT STRUGGLE IS ABLE TO ACCESS. SO WE RECENTLY JUST LEARNED THAT WE CAN. 
          I HAVE AN APP ON MY PHONE THAT WILL BASICALLY ACT AS SUBTITLES,
BUT WE COULDN'T EVEN GET THE APP TO CONNECT TO THE TV AT ALL. 
          SO IT WAS IT WAS A WHOLE SITUATION. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE ABLE
TO HELP US WITH BECAUSE AS A SENIOR PERSON, I DON'T KNOW THE EVERYDAY STRUGGLES OF SOMEONE WITH VISION IMPAIRMENTS. 
          AS A HEARING PERSON, I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE STRUGGLES THAT SOMEONE WITH THAT THAT
EXCITEMENT IN LIFE GOES THROUGH. 
          SO HAVING HAVING A BOARD OF COMMUNITY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT CAN HELP GUIDE US ON HOW WE
CAN BE ACCESSIBLE AND INCLUSIVE TO ALL OF OUR MEMBERS OF OUR CITY,
I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND YOU'RE JUST REALLY CAN'T GO WRONG. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE STRIVE TO BE INCLUSIVE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS,
NOT JUST WITH ABILITIES OR DISABILITIES. 
          SO I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN ELEVATE OUR CITY TO THAT NEXT STEP. 
          [04:50:07]
SO ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON FOR ALL
THE WORK SHE PUT IN TO GETTING THIS PRESENTATION FOR US. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART DUE
TO MY HISTORY ON WHO I'VE WORKED WITH AND WHERE I'VE WORKED AND MY HISTORY THERE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB. THANK YOU. COUNCIL I BELIEVE THIS WOULD TAKE A MODIFICATION
OF OUR COUNCIL POLICIES TO ENACT THIS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. SO, MR. MAYOR, YOU'RE SPEAKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD
REQUIRE A RESOLUTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AT APPROVAL. 
          AND SO IF THE COUNCIL DOES CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS,
NOT TOMORROW'S MEETING, BUT THE FOLLOWING MEETING, WE COULD HAVE THAT AS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. THEN I'M CORRECTED. THAT WILL BE A RESOLUTION COUNCIL. 
          I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR CONSENSUS ON A RESOLUTION FOR A ALL ABILITIES COMMITTEE. 
          THAT IS UNANIMOUS. AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT RESOLUTION IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE. COUNCILMEMBER BEARD, ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOUR REPORT,
MA'AM? NO, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BASS. 
          YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE THERE, SIR. YEAH, I HAD REQUESTED TO SPEAK. OH. 
          GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO TELL CARISSA THAT I APPRECIATE YOU
COMING UP WITH THIS. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT IN DOING IT. AND, YOU KNOW,
I DON'T KNOW SPECIAL NEEDS MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO ME. SO,
YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EMPATHY AND WHAT YOU PUT INTO THIS. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT THEN,
COUNCIL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEMS. 
          [ CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS]
CONSIDERING APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          MYSELF. MAYOR PRO TEM. DEPUTY MAYOR. PRO TEM. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. MOORE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIAMS. COUNCIL MEMBER. DENTON. COUNCIL MEMBER. THOMAS. 
          ALL HAVE APPOINTMENTS FOR TOMORROW. MAYOR PRO TEM WILL ASK THAT YOU READ MY APPOINTMENTS
TOMORROW. 
          AND THE RECORD? THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM ANNOUNCING FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. 
          [ ANNOUNCE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN FUTURE COMMITTEES OR IN FUTURE
PRESENTATIONS? COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON. OKAY. SORRY. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT OUR CURRENT POLICIES IN PLACE. 
          IN REFERENCE TO OUR TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES,
ALSO KNOWN AS THE ORANGE THINGS. 
          IN IN RELATION TO THEM BEING REMOVED AND MAINTAINED IN A MORE EFFECTIVE AND CLEAN MANNER. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS DROVE DOWN OUR STREETS,
BUT YOU CAN FIND. TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES ALL OVER EVERYWHERE, IN ALL KINDS OF AREAS AND PLACES. WE LOOK LIKE WE ARE IN CONSTRUCTION IN PLACES THAT WE
ARE NOT. 
          ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT ITEM. I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAYBE PUT IN PUBLIC SAFETY OR. 
          I DON'T KNOW. I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT REQUIRING PERMITS FOR CONTRACTORS TO DROP PORTA
POTTIES IN CONSTRUCTION ZONES. 
          I KNOW THAT SOUNDS CRAZY. WE HAD ONE RANDOMLY APPEAR ON MILLER IN A NON CONSTRUCTION ZONE. 
          AND NOW CURRENTLY ON BUCKINGHAM, THERE ARE TWO PORTA POTTIES WITHIN TEN FEET OF EACH
OTHER. 
          IT'S A LITTLE. IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD REGULATING PORTA POTTIES. 
          COUNCIL. IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT ONE? MAYOR PRO TEM IS A SECOND ON THAT ONE FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THEN THIS IS NOT REALLY A AGENDA ITEM,
BUT CAN WE PLEASE LOOK AT REMOVING OR REPLACING THE DEAD BUSHES AT THE POLICE STATION? THERE'S AN OVERABUNDANCE OF DEAD BUSHES, AND BY THE POLICE STATION,
IT LOOKS REALLY TACKY. 
          WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. YES. 
          CITY MANAGER'S TAKING NOTES RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? COUNSEL? ALL RIGHT. IF IT'S ANYTHING THAT COMES UP,
YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH. 
          VERY SOON, WE WILL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          [ EXECUTIVE SESSION]
AND THE CITY COUNCIL RECESSED FROM THE OPEN SESSION AND CONVENE IN A CLOSED EXECUTIVE
SESSION PURSUANT TO THE SECTIONS 551.071551.072551.086551.087 AND 552133 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE DISCUSSED THE FOLLOWING MATTERS. 
          NUMBER 19 COMPETITIVE MATTERS RELATED TO GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT AS IT PERTAINS TO THE
QUARTERLY BRIEFING FROM THE RISK OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. 
          551.086 AND 552133 AN ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATION RELATED TO THE SAME. 
          [04:55:04]
551.071. ITEM NUMBER 20 A POTENTIAL OFFER BY THE CITY OF FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVES TO
A BUSINESS PROSPECT, AND THE RECEIPT OF COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM THE
SAME BUSINESS PROSPECT WHICH THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATE WITHIN THE CITY AND WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS. 
          551.087 INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL SALE, EXCHANGE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY
OF DUCK CREEK DRIVE AND EAST OAKS ROAD. 
          551.072 AND ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO THE SAME. 
          551.071 AND ITEM 21 DELIBERATION OF THE PURCHASE,
EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY IN THE AREA OF PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND HOLFORD ROAD, WHERE DELIBERATIONS IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT
ON THE POSITION OF THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH A THIRD PERSON. 
          551.072 AND ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO THE SAME. 
          551.071. ALL RIGHT. COUNSEL. THEN AT 1122, WE ARE IN RECESS. 
          WE'LL SEE YOU AT 1130. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. 
          GARLAND.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.