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WELCOME TO TODAY'S COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 28TH AT 10:00 AM AND I HAVE WITH ME, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BASS AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS BEARD.
AND WE HAVE OUR STAFF LIAISON, MR. KEVIN, UM,
WE ARE GOING TO, LET'S SEE, UH, THE COMMITTEE MAY RECESS AN OPEN SESSION.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS TODAY.
UM, SO WE WILL GO OVER OUR APPROVAL OF AGENDA MEETING MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY, JANUARY 23RD MEETING.
UM, WE ARE GONNA CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 27TH MEETING MINUTES.
COUNSEL, HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THOSE MINUTES? YES.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION? THANK YOU.
UH, PERSONS WHO DESIRE TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE ON ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE ALLOWED.
UM, SCOTT, DO WE HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE DO NOT.
ITEM THREE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
ITEM THREE A IS REVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD MATCHING GRANT APPLICATION.
THE COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD MATCHING GRANT APPLICATIONS.
WE HAVE MS. LAURA WHO IS GONNA GO OVER THOSE, UM, APPLICATIONS FOR US.
UM, I AM LAURA DELA VEGA, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY.
AND I AM EXCITED TO PRESENT TO YOU THE, UM, APPLICATION FOR MATCHING GRANT.
UM, THIS, UH, CYCLE, WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION FROM SHORES OF WELLINGTON, UM, AND THAT IS TO INSTALL A SPORTS COURT.
UM, IT'LL BE ESSENTIALLY A MULTIPURPOSE SPORTS COURT, BUT PRIMARILY SET FOR PICKLEBALL.
UM, AND IT'LL, BUT IT'LL ALSO BE LINED FOR HOPSCOTCH AND SHUFFLE BOARD.
UM, THE TOTAL PROJECT COST FOR THIS IS 31,343 WITH A REQUESTING AMOUNT OF $25,074 AND A NEIGHBORHOOD MATCH OF 6,269.
UM, SO SOME OF THE STATED GOALS INCLUDE, UM, IMPROVING THE COMMUNITY, UM, ADDING FEATURES THAT FOSTER, UH, INVOLVEMENT, UM, ADDING, UM, AS IT'S A 20 PLUS YEAR COMMUNITY.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD SOME FEATURES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO TODAY, TO TODAY'S STANDARDS AND CAN REALLY MEET THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND DESIRES.
UM, FOR STATED MAINTENANCE, THEY DID MENTION THAT THE SPORTS COURT WOULD NEED TO BE LINED, UM, AND, UH, LINE PAINTED EVERY FIF FIVE YEARS.
UM, SO JUST KIND OF SOME MATCH SHOWING.
UM, THE LOCATION OF SHORES OF WILMINGTON.
IT'S, UM, DOWN IN SOUTH GARLAND, UM, SOUTH OF ETTE AND RONE ROAD AS HIGHLIGHTED.
UM, IN, IN THE MAP SHOWN, UM, BELOW IS THE OVERVIEW MAP THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROVIDED.
THEY DID PROVIDE TWO OPTIONS OF WHERE THE SPORTS COURT WOULD BE INSTALLED.
UM, O UH, OPTION ONE WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING PLAYGROUND.
OPTION TWO WOULD BE, UM, ADJACENT TO THE CLUBHOUSE, UM, KIND OF NEAR JUST IN THAT OPEN FIELD AREA.
UM, SOME COMMENTS, UH, LET'S SEE.
SOME PHOTOS OF THE PROJECT AREA INCLUDE THIS, UH, OH, LET'S SEE.
IN YOUR PACKETS, SORRY, I THINK I HAVE LOADED THE INCORRECT ONE, BUT IN YOUR PACKETS YOU SHOULD HAVE THE, THE PHOTOS OF THE PROJECT AREA.
UM, AND SO THE PHOTO SHOWING THE PLAYGROUND IS, UH, OPTION PROJECT AREA OPTION ONE.
UM, THE PHOTO SHOWING THE, UM, UH, THE NEXT PHOTO IS PROJECT AREA OPTION TWO.
UM, NOW SOME STAFF COMMENTS ON THE, UM, APPLICATION.
UM, NOW THIS WILL MARK THE BEGINNING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S, UM, FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME.
UM, SO THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN MATCHING FUNDS.
UM, SO THIS WOULD MARK, IF APPROVED, THIS WOULD MARK THE BEGINNING OF THEIR NEW FIVE-YEAR CYCLE.
UM, AND SO LINE ITEM ESTIMATES MUST
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BE INCLUDED IN THE MATCHING GRANT APPLICATIONS.UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DID APPLY ALSO FOR, UH, TO INSTALL A DOG PARK, UM, KIND OF ALONG THE SHORELINE.
UM, HOWEVER, THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE LINE ITEM ESTIMATES, AND SO WE WERE UNABLE TO INCLUDE THAT, UM, IN THIS PROJECT REQUEST.
UM, AND SO WE PRESENT THIS TO COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE, UM, AS TO DETERMINE WHETHER, UH, INSTALLING A NEW SPORTS COURT IS ELIGIBLE THROUGH THE MATCHING GRANT.
UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS EXPLICITLY LISTED AS AN ELIGIBLE ITEM, UM, BUT I KNOW HISTORICALLY BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT'S FALL OF 2020, UM, THE TRAILS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS, UM, APPROVED TO RESURFACE THEIR TENNIS COURT, UM, IN ADDITION TO A FEW OTHER, UM, ITEMS THERE.
SO I DID WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.
UM, JUST HISTORICAL INFORMATION.
UM, ANOTHER, UH, COMMENT OF OURS OPTION, THE OPTION ONE LOCATION.
UM, IT JUST DOESN'T, WHEN I WAS OUT THERE TAKING PHOTOS OF, UH, THE DIFFERENT OPTION AREAS, IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE AT 30 BY 60, UM, SPORTS COURT.
UM, AND SO, UM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS JUST ONE OF MY CONCERNS.
OPTION TWO SEEMS TO HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE, UM, TO FIT THAT SIZE OF A COURT AS WELL AS, UM, AS, UH, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FIVE FOOT UTILITY AND WALL EASEMENT THAT WAS NOTED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED IN THE PERMITTING PHASE.
UM, BUT THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE HAD WANTED TO NOTE, UM, ABOUT JUST THE PROJECT LOCATIONS.
SO, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER? I, OH, UM, LET'S SEE.
ONE, IS THIS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS.
UM, WE DID, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS IN OUR LETTER OF INTENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND SO, UH, WE DID NOTIFY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, SIGN EITHER A LICENSE AGREEMENT OR AN EASEMENT, UM, ESSENTIALLY ALLOWING PUBLIC USE AND NOT ALLOWING THEM TO PUT IN A HOA MEMBER ONLY SIGN.
UM, THEY DID ADDRESS THAT, UM, IN THEIR LETTER OF INTENT COMMENTS, UM, THAT, UM, THEY WILL KEEP THIS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
'CAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE DENIED LIKE FOR A BASKETBALL COURT BECAUSE THE HOA, IT'S JUST FOR HOA AND ALL THAT.
UM, AND THEN, SO IT SAYS ON, NOW YOU MENTIONED, AND I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THIS, SO WE HAVE, UM, I DIDN'T REALIZE THE MATCHING GRANTS INCLUDED COULD COVER MAINTENANCE.
SO YOU SAID THAT WE'VE RESURFACED COURTS BEFORE WITH THIS GRANT.
SO WHEN I WAS DOING RESEARCH AS TO ANY SIMILAR TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED IN THE PAST, I DID FIND THE, UM, TRAILS TENNIS COURT RESURFACING FROM 2020.
UM, THAT WAS BEFORE I, I, I STARTED DOING MATCHING GRANT AGAIN.
UM, I, I DID IT BEFORE FROM LIKE 2014 TO 2016.
AND THEN, UM, I PICKED IT BACK UP IN 2022.
SO IT WAS KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE TIMEFRAME.
SO, UM, I CAN, CAN ANYONE ANSWER? DO WE, CAN ANYONE HERE ANSWER, DO WE COVER MAINTENANCE WITH THIS GRANT? SO PER THE GUIDELINES, IT SAYS, UM, MAINTENANCE TYPE ITEMS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE.
UM, HOWEVER THIS PARTICULAR, UM, GRANT IT WOULD BE INSTALLING NEW.
SO IT'S NOT, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT'S LEADING ME TO MY NEXT, MY NEXT QUESTION.
UM, BECAUSE, AND THEN IT THREW ME OFF WHEN YOU SAID THAT WE HAD DONE IT BEFORE.
'CAUSE I THOUGHT MAINTENANCE WASN'T INCLUDED.
SO 'CAUSE IT LEADS ME, LEADS ME TO THIS.
SO, UM, THE SPORTS COURT WOULD NEED LINE PAINT EVERY FIVE YEARS, RESURFACE IN 10 YEARS.
I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THAT THE SHORES OF WELLINGTON IS PREPARED FOR THAT.
THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WHATEVER, ESCROW SOME MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
'CAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANNA DO IS WE DON'T WANNA PUT THIS OUT THERE AND THEN THEY DON'T MAINTAIN IT.
AND THEY COME BACK IN 10 YEARS AND WHATEVER EXCUSE THEY HAVE, RIGHT? WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO IT AGAIN WITH YOU GUYS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY HAVE AT LEAST SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IT.
UM, SO IT DOESN'T BECOME AN EYESORE.
IN THAT AREA ONE, THE OPTION ONE AREA, THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE PUTTING IT IN THERE.
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I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.THANK YOU CHAIR, MS. MS. BEARD.
UM, I'VE JUST GOT A COMMENT ON THE OPTIONS IF THIS IS GONNA BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
OPTION TWO IS OBVIOUSLY BETTER BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEIR SWIMMING POOL AND PLAYGROUND ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND IF YOU PUT THIS COURT RIGHT NEXT TO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CONFLICT THERE.
UM, PLUS IF YOU'RE PLAYING PICKLEBALL, YOU REALLY DON'T WANT CHILDREN BEING ABLE TO RUN ACROSS YOUR COURT AND GET HIT WHILE YOU'RE PLAYING.
SO OPTION TWO IS DEFINITELY THE BETTER OPTION AS FAR AS PUBLIC ACCESS AND THEN SAFETY OF ANY KIDS THAT WOULD BE ON THAT PLAYGROUND.
UM, AND I, I AGREE WITH, UM, BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER BEARD AND, UH, BASS.
I DON'T THINK OPTION ONE, I WOULD, I WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN PURSUING THIS WITH OPTION ONE EVEN ON THE TABLE.
SO, UM, OPTION TWO DEFINITELY, IN MY OPINION IS THE ONLY WAY THAT I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING IT.
UM, THEN LAURA, QUICK QUESTION.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE DOG PARK.
AND SO NEXT YEAR, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH THE DOG PARK JUST FOR CLARIFICATION? ABSOLUTELY.
AS LONG AS THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, UM, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THE DOG PARK NEXT YEAR.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT THEY KNEW THAT NEXT YEAR, COME BACK AND MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT IT A LINE ITEM.
ARE WE GOOD TO, UM, SEND THIS TO COUNSEL FOR A VOTE? UM, WITH OPTION TWO AS, AS THE ONLY OPTION? YES.
AND I FEEL THAT THIS, THIS, I KNOW THAT YOU HAD SAID THAT THIS ISN'T TYPICALLY THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE USE FOR, BUT I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S GOOD.
IT BENEFITS, AND I KNOW THE, THE PART OF ABOUT IT BEING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, IT'S KIND OF TRICKY BECAUSE EVEN WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE SEE IT THERE, THE DEAL, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE A SIGN ADDED THAT SAYS THIS IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE HOA TO GET IN THERE.
ALSO, FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT DIFFERENT HOA BOARD MEMBERS, OR EVEN NEXT YEAR YOU GET DIFFERENT HOA BOARD MEMBERS AND THEN THEY FEEL THAT IT'S THEIR PRIVATE USE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY START USING IT JUST FOR THAT.
SO I, I WOULD WANT TO MAYBE HAVE, MAYBE WE PUT UP A SIGN AND PUT UP, UH, SOME KIND, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
YOU GUYS CAN COME UP WITH IT, RIGHT? THAT PLACARD YEP.
THAT SAYS THAT THIS IS, UH, FOR PUBLIC USE.
SO WE'LL INCLUDE FOR PUBLIC USE.
UM, HAVE THIS, UH, IN WRITING MAINTENANCE STATEMENT, UM, WHICH WE COULD PROBABLY INCLUDE WITH THE, UM, SHOULD IT GET PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL INCLUDED IN THE FUNDING AGREEMENT? YEAH.
AND I THINK IT'S GOOD TO GO AT THAT POINT.
UM, SO WE HAVE YOU MAKING A MOTION.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL GET THIS OVER TO COUNSEL WITH THOSE, UM, THOSE AMENDMENTS ONTO IT.
AND THEN NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA, ITEM THREE B IS DISCUSS NIGHTTIME POPUP BUSINESSES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THIS WAS, THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE DISCUSSION FROM THE MARCH 27TH COMMUNITY SERVICE MEETING.
THIS ITEM WAS SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE FOR SCOPING DISCUSSION DURING FEBRUARY 17TH.
WORK SESSION MEETING BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS AND YOU DO MAYOR PRO.
SCOTT, YOU GOT US ON THIS ONE.
I DO NOT, NO, I'M JUST SETTING YOU UP.
THINKING IT WAS A LITTLE WEIRD, BUT
WELCOME TO OUR FANTASTIC CODE GUYS.
GOOD MORNING, MR. BRIAN AND CHRIS HARRIS ARE GONNA GO OVER THIS ONE WITH US.
WHAT YOU GOT FOR US TODAY? YES MA'AM.
BRIAN MORRIS, DIRECTOR OF CODE COMPLIANCE, CITY OF GARLAND.
AND SO FOR OUR FIRST ISSUE, WE'RE GONNA SPEAK ABOUT THE POPUP BUSINESSES THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, UH, BACK IN MARCH.
UH, SO IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL CONCERNS, COMMITTEE CONCERNS AND RESIDENT COMPLAINTS, UH, OUR TEAM PUT TOGETHER A PILOT PROGRAM, UH, WHICH COVERS, UH, 12 SATURDAYS, STARTING IN, STARTING IN JUNE, GOING TO SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2025.
AND SO OUR MAIN AIM WAS JUST TO ADDRESS THE MERCHANDISE CONCERNS FOR POP-UP VENDORS OVER THE WEEKEND.
AND SO THAT SHIFT CONSISTS OF ONE O'CLOCK TO 8:00 PM
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TO, UM, INSPECTORS WORKING EACH SATURDAY AND TO OFFICER PER SHIFT.AND AGAIN, OUR MISSION, OUR MODE WAS JUST TO ELIMINATE THE MERCHANDISE VENDORS PER SECTION, UH, 31 56 A.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE WORN MANY OF THESE VENDORS PRIOR TO OUR WEEKEND SHIFT, OUR DECISION WAS MADE THAT WE WOULD START WITH STRICTLY CITATIONS, NO WARNINGS ISSUED TO ANY OF THE VENDORS.
WE WANTED TO BEING, WE ONLY HAD A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME TO EXECUTE, UH, THE PROTOCOL.
UH, WE WANTED TO JUST SEND A MESSAGE VERY QUICKLY AND GET THE RESULTS THAT THE CITY, UH, WOULD BE SUSTAINABLE FOR THE CITY.
ALRIGHT, SO HERE'S A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF OUR ENFORCEMENT.
UH, TO DATE, WE'VE HAD 10 SATURDAYS THAT HAVE BEEN COVERED.
UH, MOST OF OUR ENFORCEMENT ACTION OCCURRED ON THE FIRST TWO TO THREE WEEKENDS.
SO WE HAD 12 PLUS CITATIONS THAT WERE ISSUED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
WE HAD REPEAT VIOLATORS THAT WE WOULD CITE ONE TIME AND THEY WOULD COME RIGHT BACK AGAIN THE NEXT WEEK.
AND WE EVEN HAD A THIRD, I THINK WE MAY HAVE HAD A THIRD, A THREE STRIKE PERSON THAT WE HAD TO KINDA CHASE OFF.
UH, WE'VE ALSO HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WERE ABLE TO STOP FROM SETTING UP.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO CATCH THEM UPON ARRIVAL BEFORE THEY COULD REALLY SET THEIR GOODS AND SERVICES UP.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO INSTITUTE SOME ENFORCEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, GET THEM TO RELOCATE.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST, THE FIRST MONTH OF OUR ACTIVITY.
UH, SINCE THEN WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF GOOD PROGRESS, UH, THE PAST FOUR MONTHS, PAST FOUR WEEKS, UH, WE'VE SEEN NO ENFORCEMENT ACTION WHATSOEVER.
SO, UH, ALL THE REPEAT VIOLATORS HAVE LEFT TO THIS POINT.
UH, WE'RE UNDER NO ILLUSION THAT THEY WON'T BE BACK AT SOME POINT BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A PILOT PROGRAM.
SO IF THEY DON'T SEE OUR ACTIVITY OUT THERE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, THEY MAY INDEED RETURN.
BUT WE ARE VERY, VERY SATISFIED.
THIS EVENINGS WORK, UH, WORK EXTREMELY HARD TO GET THE RESULTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT.
UM, SO AGAIN, NO CONTACT FOR THE MOST RECENT FOUR WEEKS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM.
AND HERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL SEE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
THE, THE, THE HUGE STUFF BEARS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THE, UH, THE PURSES, THE BAGS, THE MERCHANDISE THAT YOU SEE ON, ON THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.
AND SO AGAIN, THE TEAM HAS COME TOGETHER, DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB IN EXECUTING THIS PLAN.
AND WE JUST WANNA BE RESPONSIVE TO THE CITIZENS AND TO THE COUNCIL'S, COUNCIL'S NEEDS ON THIS.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'VE MET THAT, MET THAT CRITERIA.
UH, SO NEXT STEPS, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD? AGAIN, THIS WAS A PILOT PROGRAM THAT WAS FUNDED WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT, UH, OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM WAS SUPPORTIVE OF AND ABLE TO GET SOME OVERTIME BENEFITS FOR US.
UM, IT WAS, WAS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE, I THINK, SOUTH OF $6,000 TO OPERATE THIS OVER THE COURSE OF THESE 13 WEEKS.
AND SO IT'S BEEN EFFECTIVE FOR THAT LIMITED PERIOD GOING FORWARD.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO PROPOSE IS A LIMITED, NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR PROTOCOL IN PLACE IS A LIMITED ENFORCEMENT EFFORT.
SO WE KNOW THE MAJOR HOLIDAYS, RIGHT? CHRISTMAS, NEW YEAR'S, 4TH OF JULY, UH, MOTHER'S DAY, INDEPENDENCE DAY FOR SOME REASON, NOT SO MUCH.
WE, WE NOTICE THAT, THAT THERE'S, IT IS VERY RARE WE SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE, BUT WE KNOW THE MAJOR HOLIDAYS THAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT OUR, OUR, OUR STRIKE FORCE.
UH, SO THAT'S GONNA BE OUR PROPOSAL GOING FORWARD.
AND THEN POSSIBLY NEXT SUMMER, AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA BE A BUSY SEASON JUST YEAR ROUND BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE OUT.
SO THAT MAY CONSTITUTE A LARGER FORCE, MORE CONSISTENT FORCE AGAIN IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE, UH, A LOT OF THESE FOLKS WOULD'VE HAD A MEMORY LAPSE OF WHAT HAPPENED LAST SUMMER AND WILL LIKELY TRY TO, UH, REESTABLISH THEMSELVES BACK IN THE CITY OF GARLAND.
AND SO WITH THAT, THAT SUMMARIZES OUR EFFORTS TO THIS POINT, WE ARE ABOUT TWO THIRDS THROUGH OUR PILOT PROGRAM.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY JUST TWO WEEKS LEFT IN IT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 13TH.
UM, AND SO WE HOPE THAT THESE RESULTS WILL BE SUSTAINABLE, UH, BUT WE'LL BE PREPARED TO REINVIGORATE IT AS NEEDED.
AND SO WITH THAT, WE ARE OPEN FOR ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS.
I, I HAD SEEN IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THE RESULTS.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL POSTING THOSE RESULTS TOO.
THAT PROBABLY HELPS TO DRIVE PEOPLE AWAY AS WELL.
UM, BUT LOOKING AT WHEN, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS BROUGHT THIS UP, HE BROUGHT THIS UP AS A NIGHTTIME POP-UP BUSINESS CONCERN.
UM, DID YOU GUYS DO ANY ENFORCEMENT AT NIGHT? WAS HE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUSINESS? I DON'T REMEMBER.
AND I'M NOT, I I FEEL LIKE IT WAS THE NIGHTTIME, BUT IT, THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE IN THE AFTERNOON ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THERE AT NIGHT.
SO IT WAS THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESSES? YEAH.
YEAH, IT'S LIKE THE POPUP, LIKE THEY SHOWED THE PICTURES OF THE YEAH.
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AND THE BLOW UP, LIGHT UP INFLATABLE BALLOON THINGS LIKE, THE ONE I ALWAYS SEE IS A GUY SELLING FROZEN PRECUT STEAKS.THAT'S ONE GUY I ALWAYS SEE AT NORTH GARLAND FROZEN PRECUT BELTLINE.
HE SETS UP AT A GAS STATION AT NORTH GARLAND, A BELTLINE.
BUT THAT WOULD BE HEALTH, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THIS IS SIMPLY JUST ME, JUST THESE MERCHANDISES.
AND THEY DID DO SOME EVENINGS, UM, SOME EVENING PATROLS AND, UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TO CENTERVILLE AND MARK, IS IT MARKETPLACE RIGHT THERE? UM, THAT IT'S CLEANED UP A LOT, A LOT SINCE, 'CAUSE IT, UM, IT LITERALLY LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE PULLING INTO TRADE DAYS.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, 'CAUSE BJ BROUGHT UP AT NIGHTTIME, I JUST WANTED, SO IF IT IS THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESSES, THEN IT'S THE SAME SCOPE.
AND, AND WE INTENTIONALLY, IF I MAY, WE INTENTIONALLY RAN IT UNTIL 8:00 PM TO KIND OF, TO CATCH THOSE COME OUT LATER NIGHT.
UM, FOLKS THAT MAY POP OUT TIME TO TIME.
THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
UM, I HAVE SEEN SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT.
IT'S BEEN GREAT BECAUSE IT STARTS AT MILLER IN FIRST AND GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN FIRST TO CENTERVILLE AND THEN IT CUTS UP CENTERVILLE AND THAT PARKING LOT THERE.
WHERE ON BROADWAY, IN FRONT OF SOUTH GARLAND HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, THE BUILDING THERE AT THE CORNER OF MILLER AND FIRST THAT WHATEVER THEY CAN PUT THERE, THEY BONSAI TREES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THE NIGHTTIME, THEY, FOR THE BALLOONS THAT HAVE THE, THEY WAIT UNTIL THE SUN GOES DOWN TO START SELLING THOSE BECAUSE THEY SHOW UP.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE, HOW DO WE, UM, REPORT THESE IN THE FUTURE IF WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S DECIDED THAT THEY NEED TO, UM, COME BACK AND TRY AGAIN? YES.
UM, I BELIEVE A TARGETED APPROACH WOULD BE BEST FOR US IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC, WE WANT TO USE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO GET THE MAXIMUM EFFECT.
SO IF WE DO HAVE ONE OR TWO THAT ARE, THAT ARE ONE-OFFS, THEN WE COULD DESIGN SOMETHING PARTICULARLY FOR THAT EFFORT.
UH, PERHAPS JUST SENDING ONE OR TWO OFFICERS OUT THERE FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME TO JUST TARGET THOSE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS.
SO OF COURSE WE MAY NOT KNOW IT UNTIL WE HEAR IT FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE RESIDENTS AND FROM THE COUNCIL.
UM, SO YOU COULD JUST REPORT THOSE DIRECTLY TO, TO ME AND WE'LL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER TO COMBAT THAT.
LIKE I SAID, I THINK, I THINK THIS TARGETED ENFORCEMENT WILL GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW WHEN SOMEBODY'S GONNA PULL UP.
SO AS LONG AS WE HAVE IT SOMEWHERE THAT, HEY, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE DOING RANDOM ROUTINE CHECKS, THEN THAT THREAT IS STILL THERE,
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, IT, IT, IT HAD BECOME FLEA MARKET ALL THE, LIKE I SAID, FROM MILLER AND FIRST DOWN TO CENTERVILLE AND THEN UP CENTERVILLE, IT, IT ALMOST EVERY PARKING LOT HAD SOMETHING IN IT ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CITATIONS.
UM, ONE, HOW MUCH MUCH IS THE CITATION? AND TWO, DO WE ESCALATE FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS? MM-HMM
CHRIS, YOU WANNA TAKE THAT? UM, I COULD BE, I DON'T, I I THINK IT'S AROUND $200 ON THE FIRST OFFENSE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, ESCALATION YEAH.
CAN TAKE PLACE IF THEY'VE, WE USUALLY WORK WITH OUR PROSECUTORS IN A, IN ANY SITUATION WHEN WE HAVE A REPEAT OFFENDER, WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM TO SEEK THE BACK PENALTY.
BACK PENALTY ON A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR CAN BE 2000.
OH, SO IT'S, IT'S CRIMINAL, IT'S NOT CIVIL.
EVERYTHING WE DO, WE, WE ARE WORKING ON A, UH, A CIVIL ADMINISTRATION TO TBD.
UM, BUT AT THIS TIME, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCEMENT, FINES, PENALTIES, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL CRIMINAL.
SO YOU GOT A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR LAST SLIDE? SURE.
SO I WOULD LIKE US TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL FOR CONTINUATION, UM, WITH THOSE APPROVED, UM, THOSE APPROVED HOLIDAYS, I LIKE THE SIMILAR EVENTS, UH, DOWN THERE.
SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU SOME WIGGLE ROOM.
UM, AND THEN I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THAT ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES THIS, THAT WE DO A YEAR OR I'M SAY LIKE A MAYBE A SIX MONTH YEAR, JUST OVERALL
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CHECKUP ON HOW IT'S GOING.UM, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB SO FAR.
IT'S DEFINITELY CLEANED UP A LOT.
I'VE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE, THE LIGHTUP BALLOON, UM, VENDOR GUY.
LIKE, WE'RE NOT AT THE CIRCUS, BUT I GUESS PEOPLE ARE BUYING THEM SO THEY KEEP COMING BACK.
WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE A HOT ITEM TO BUY ON THE SIDE OF THEIR OWN? UM, SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.
YOU'VE DONE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
UM, WE'RE STEPS CLOSER TO LOOKING LIKE A MORE BEAUTIFUL POLISHED CITY EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE THIS TO COUNCIL IF, UM, IF YOU GUYS AGREE, IF WE CAN GET A MOTION TO SEND TO COUNCIL SECOND.
SO WE WILL SEND THIS TO COUNCIL, GET YOU GUYS APPROVED FOR CONTINUANCE OF YOUR PROGRAM AND KEEP MAKING US PRETTY THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
UM, ITEM THREE C IS DISCUSSED OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE STORAGE OF TIRES AND BUSINESSES.
THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE DISCUSSION FROM THE MARCH 27TH COMMUNITY SERVICE MEETING.
THE ITEM WAS SUBMITTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO.
TIM LUCK AT THE MARCH 3RD WORK SESSION AND WE'VE GOT OUR CODE COMPLIANCE TOOL WITH US.
AND SO THEY WILL GIVE US UPDATE ON THIS ONE.
ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING AGAIN, BRIAN MORRIS CODE COMPLIANCE.
SO WE'LL DIG INTO THE OUTSIDE, PARTICULARLY WITH TIRE STORAGE.
UH, SO THE CITY OF GARLAND DOES NOT HAVE A PARTICULAR CODE THAT IS SPECI SPECIFIC TO TIRES, BUT IT'S GENERAL AND IT RELATES TO TIRE RELATES TO STORAGE IN GENERAL.
AND SO WHAT'S IT APPLIES TO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, WHICH IS, UH, THE TIRES BEING STORED OUTSIDE OF OUR LOCATIONS.
UH, SO THE TEAM DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB IDENTIFIED, UH, THE 56 TIRE SHOPS THAT ARE IN THE CITY.
UH, WE FIRST COMPRISE, COMPILED A MAP OF ALL AUTO LOCATIONS, UH, FOR A, JUST FOR A SEPARATE PROJECT THAT WE'LL BE EMBARKING ON LATER.
UM, BUT SPECIFICALLY WE WANTED TO NARROW IT DOWN JUST TO TIRE SHOPS SPECIFICALLY.
AND SO ON YOUR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION YOU'LL SEE A MAP SHOWING ALL 56 LOCATIONS, UH, WHERE THEY'RE CONCENTRATED AND WHERE WE'LL WHERE WE'LL BE, UH, ENFORCING THE ORDINANCES THAT WE'LL DISCUSS HERE SHORTLY.
THIS IS A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF OUR STORAGE REGULATIONS.
AGAIN, NOT SPECIFIC TO TIRES, BUT THIS CAN GO FOR ANY OUTSIDE DISPLAY OF MERCHANDISE, WHETHER IT'S TEMPORARY OR LONG TERM.
AND SO SOME OF THE KEY PROVISIONS WILL GO OVER QUICKLY.
UM, YOU CAN'T HAVE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT IN A ORALLY FASHION.
SO THAT'S A MAXIMUM OF FIVE FEET FROM THE BUILDING.
UH, YOU CANNOT PLACE ANY STORAGE ITEMS ON ROOFS.
I'M NOT SURE WHO WOULD ACTUALLY DO THAT, BUT THAT IS NOT ALLOWED PER OUR ORDINANCE.
UH, YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE IT WHERE IT'S NOT BLOCKING PARKING TRAFFIC OR SIDEWALKS.
UH, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS FIVE FEET.
AND AGAIN, IT CANNOT BE PLACED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR AN EASEMENT.
THEY MUST BE PLACED IN A NEAT, ORDERLY FASHION AND REMAIN LITTER FREE.
SO THIS NEXT PROVISION IS ONE THAT WILL GIVE US THE MOST ENFORCEMENT, UH, CAPACITY.
AND IT STATES THAT THERE'S A MAXIMUM OF FIVE DAYS PER CALENDAR MONTH.
THEY CAN BE STORED OUTSIDE AGAIN FOR TIRES AND FOR ANY TYPE OF OUTSIDE DISPLAY.
UM, IT WILL AFFECT QUITE A FEW, QUITE A FEW LOCATIONS, UH, HOW IT IS CURRENTLY CONSTITUTED.
SO THAT'S FIVE DAYS PER CALENDAR MONTH.
UM, SO MOVING ON TO THE LONG-TERM STORAGE, UH, AGAIN, SOME OF THE SAME PROVISIONS APPLY, CAN'T BE BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET, UH, CANNOT BE STACKED ABOVE THE BUILDING OR SCREEN HEIGHT.
AND IT MUST BE SCREENED BY A MINIMUM OF A SIX FOOT HIGH FENCE WALL OR LANDSCAPING TO BLOCK FROM PUBLIC VIEW.
AND THEN OF COURSE, IN INDUSTRIAL ZONES, IT CAN'T BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, HAS TO BE SCREENED BY WOOD OR CODED CHAIN LINK WITH SLATS, THEY ARE ALLOWED.
ALRIGHT, SO THOSE OF OUR, OUR GENERAL PROVISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO OUTSIDE STORAGE, AND AGAIN, WE'RE SHORT AND SWEET ON THIS.
OUR NEXT STEPS, UH, WE LIKE TO START WITH PER THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION, START WITH AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
UH, SOME OF THESE PROVISIONS HAVE NOT BEEN ENFORCED AS WRITTEN.
UH, WE DO WANT TO WORK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE INTERPRETING
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IT CORRECTLY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT FIVE DAY MAXIMUM PERIOD.UH, THAT WILL BE A QUITE A BIT OF A CHANGE FOR OUR TIRE SHOPS IN THE CITY.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT BEFORE WE EMBARK ON AN AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT CAMPAIGN.
UM, SO BARRING ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT OR ANY REVISIONS, OUR NEXT STEPS WILL BE TO START WITH, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION BEFORE CITATION.
WE WANNA START WITH AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN JUST TO, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.
AND SO WE DON'T WANNA PENALIZE YOU FOR NOT, UM, OPERATING WITH SOMETHING THAT YOU WEREN'T AWARE EXISTED.
SO WE WANNA GIVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, MEET WITH OUR TIRE SHOPS.
SO THAT WILL INCLUDE WORKING WITH PMR TO ENGAGE VIA PUBLIC MEDIA AND OTHER OUTLETS.
UH, BUT OF COURSE, KNOWING THAT EVERY TIRE SHOP IS NOT GOING TO BE ENGAGED WITH HOW THE CITY COMMUNICATES.
SO WE WILL ALSO TAKE THAT ADDITIONAL STEP OF GOING TO EACH OF THESE 56, UM, INDIVIDUAL TIRE SHOPS AND PROVIDING SOME LITERATURE, HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND NOTING ANY CONCERNS.
AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING A 90 DAY CAMPAIGN, JUST, JUST EDUCATION BEFORE CITATION.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL MONITOR THE VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE RATES.
SO AT THE END OF THAT 90 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL TAKE ANOTHER ASSESSMENT.
WE'LL SEE HOW MANY OF THE 56 ARE IN SOME TYPE OF VIOLATION, AND WE'LL SEE HOW MANY COME INTO VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE WITHOUT US HAVING TO PROCEED TO ENFORCEMENT.
UM, BEYOND THAT PROPOSED 90 DAY PERIOD, WE WOULD GO TO THE ENFORCEMENT PHASE, UH, WHICH WILL REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT OF HANDHOLDING ON OUR PART.
IT'S GONNA BE A PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVY LIFT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
UM, THE INSPECTORS WILL MONITOR, UH, PARTICULARLY ONCE WE GO INTO OUR NEW SOFTWARE, WE'LL HAVE MORE ABILITY TO MONITOR SPECIFIC AREAS.
SO AT THAT POINT, EACH INSPECTOR WILL HAVE THE TIRE SHOPS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE AREA.
UH, ALONG WITH OUR TEAM LEADS.
THEY'LL HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CHECKING, KEEPING IN MIND THEY'LL HAVE TO CHECK FOR ANY VIOLATION, WHICH IS OVER FIVE DAYS IN A 30 DAY PERIOD, MEANING DAILY CHECKS OF EACH INDIVIDUAL SHOP.
SO WHEN WE SAY A HEAVY LIFT, IT WILL REQUIRE QUITE A BIT OF WORK ON OUR PART.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN HANDLE, UH, WITH TIME.
UH, SO THE INSPECTORS WILL MONITOR EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL SHOPS, UH, BEGIN A ISSUING NOTICE OF VIOLATION FOR THOSE THAT ARE NON-COMPLIANT.
AND THEN WE'LL MONITOR AND REPORT THOSE RESULTS.
AND ALL LIKELIHOOD WE'LL BRING THE 50, IF THERE ARE 56 IN VIOLATION, OUR GOAL WILL BE TO BRING THOSE DOWN TO A REASONABLE NUMBER WITHIN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME, SIX MONTHS TO, TO NINE MONTHS.
ONE OF THE ISSUES MENTIONED FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS AFTER HOURS STORAGE, UH, WHICH TO MY UNDERSTANDING IS PROHIBITED WHERE TIRES ARE LEFT TIRES AND OTHER MATERIALS ARE LEFT OUT, UH, BEYOND OPERATING HOURS.
AND SO THAT WILL TAKE AN ADDITIONAL EFFORT BECAUSE THAT'S, WE'RE TALKING AFTER SEVEN, AFTER EIGHT O'CLOCK, AND OUR TEAM IS, OR THEIR DAY IS DONE AT, AT FIVE.
SO, UH, THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL PILOT PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD, UH, PROPOSE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM IF THAT CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE AS WELL.
UM, AND THAT I, WE'VE GOT MANDY, UM, WITH OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT HERE AS WELL.
UM, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES BROUGHT UP WAS, UM, THE MOSQUITOES BREEDING IN THE TIRES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF MANDY, IF YOU WANTED TO, IF YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT THAT YOU COULD ADD TO THAT.
SORRY IF I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.
SO THE PART I LIKE ABOUT WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THE FIVE DAY TIMEFRAME, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR A MOSQUITO TO LAY A EGG AND COME TO DEVELOPMENTS.
THE THING IS THOUGH, IF THEY ALLOWED TO STORE IT BEHIND THE SCENES OR AS LONG AS THEY WANT, THEY CAN STORE IT AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IN SIGHT OR PUBLIC VIEW.
SO THAT'S WHERE, SO THEY CAN REMOVE IT FROM PUBLIC VIEW.
THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD COME IN FOR US, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING BEHIND THE FENCE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S INDEFINITE YEAH, WE CAN GROSS SOME MOSQUITOES AND THE TIRES.
UM, WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE STORES AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S BACKYARD.
BUT SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
ARE YOU COMING TO SLAP ME ON THE HAND? NO, NO, NO.
WHICH ONE?
UM, IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY OBSERVING MOSQUITOES BEING BRED ACTIVELY AT THE LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE TIRES, TIRES BEING STORED, THAT DOES FALL, FALL UNDER A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
AND SO THEY CAN TAKE MEASURES INCLUDING ASK THEM TO MITIGATE THAT BY COVERING THE TIRES WITH TARPS OR WHATEVER.
SO THERE IS, THEY DO HAVE OPTIONS OF WHAT THEY CAN DO.
ALL RIGHT GUYS, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
CAN WE GO BACK TO SLIDE NINE, PLEASE? AND THEN A COUPLE THINGS.
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ONE, WE HAD, UM, SO DID YOU GUYS, UH, CONFER WITH ANY TIRE, UH, TIRE SHOP OWNERS, REPRESENTATIVES OR ANYTHING? WE'D, WE'D ASKED FOR ONE TO BE PRESENT HERE TODAY IF POSSIBLE, BUT DID YOU GUYS DISCUSS THIS WITH THEM WITH ANY FIRST, UH, NO.WE HAVE NOT CONTACTED ANY, UH, ATTIRE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES.
AND THEN, UM, SO LOOKING AT IT ON HERE, IF WE, UNDER THE TEMPORARY YOU HAVE, WE HAVE DISPLAY, BUT UNDER THE LONG TERM WE DON'T HAVE DISPLAY.
UM, SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, AND ONE, AND I HAD BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE TOO, RIGHT? I'D REALLY, REALLY WANT TO SEE A A, A DEFINITION OF DISPLAY VERSUS STORAGE.
UM, BECAUSE IN MY HEAD I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, DISPLAY COULD BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'VE TAKEN TY TIRES, YOU KNOW, AND HAD IT MADE INTO A PIECE OF ART WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THE MICHELIN MAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? SO I WOULD, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION FOR, THERE'S NOT JUST CONSTANT SUBJECTIVITY, RIGHT? YOU GET ONE CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER THAT SAYS, WELL, THAT'S A PIECE OF ART.
AND YOU GET ANOTHER ONE THAT SAYS, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S A DISPLAY OF TIRES, RIGHT? SO I'D, AND, YOU KNOW, I'D, I'D HATE FOR SOMEONE TO BE PUT IN THAT SITUATION.
SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE A, A, SOME KIND OF DISTINGUISH DISTINGUISH BETWEEN DISPLAY AND STORAGE.
AND THEN, UM, ON HERE WHERE IT SAYS, UH, DISPLAY TEMPORARY AND THE DISPLAY'S NOT LISTED UNDER THE LONG TERM.
SO WHAT ARE WE LOOK, I MEAN, ARE WE, ARE WE CONSIDERING THE LONG TERM FOR DISPLAY AS WELL? OR HOW IS THAT? SO, GREAT QUESTION.
MY MY INTERPRETATION OF THE, THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN LONG TERM AND TEMPORARY IS THAT THE DISPLAY IS ONLY MEANT TO BE A TEMPORARY DISPLAY.
SO THERE IS NO, THERE SHOULDN'T BE A LONG TERM IS NOT MEANT TO BE A PERMANENT USE AS A DISPLAY FOR TIRES OR ANY OTHER MATERIAL.
IT'S ONLY MEANT TO BE TEMPORARY, WHICH IS FIVE DAYS PER A 30 DAY CALENDAR.
AND, AND THIS OF COURSE, THIS COVERS ANY ITEMS, NOT JUST TIRES.
AND THEN, UM, OKAY, SO THE, UM, AND WHAT I'M THINKING OF NOW IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERY MORNING THEY GO, THEY OPEN THE BAY DOORS, THEY PULL THE TIRES OUT, THEY SET THE TIRES UP IN THEIR LITTLE PARKING LOT, RIGHT? SO THEY DO THAT EVERY DAY, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY BREAK IT DOWN.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON HERE IS IT'S ACTUALLY A MAXIMUM OF FIVE DAYS? YES.
THAT'S OUR INTERPRETATION IS THAT IT'S A FIVE DAY MAXIMUM PER CALENDAR MONTH.
SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THAT? THAT'S THE DIFFICULT PART, RIGHT? THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CHALLENGING PART.
UM, WE HAVEN'T PUT TOGETHER A PROCESS IN FULL YET, BUT HONESTLY WHAT IT WOULD REQUIRE IS FOR US TO MONITOR EACH LOCATION EVERY SINGLE WORKING DAY AND TAKE PICTURES AND HAVE SOME SIDE OF, SOME SORT OF LOG TO MODIFY AND, AND MONITOR WHEN IT REACHES BEYOND FIVE DAYS.
AND THEN, UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT, SO YOU GOT THE, THE FIVE O'CLOCKS END OF THE WORKDAY, BUT, UM, WHAT ABOUT WEEKENDS? IS THERE ANY ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT ON WEEKENDS? UH, YES AND NO.
WE, WE DO HAVE A GROUNDSKEEPER THAT DOES VARIOUS TASKS.
THEY PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE FOR US.
THEY CLEAN UP TRASH, PICK UP BANDIT SIGNS AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO IT'S A POSSIBLE TASK AS WELL AS GARAGE SALES MONITORS, GARAGE SALES.
SO THAT'S A POSSIBLE TASK THAT WE COULD ADD ON TO A LITTLE BIT TO THEIR PLATE.
THEY WORK SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
UM, NOT SURE IF THEY COULD COVER ALL 56 OVER THE ENTIRE CITY, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S SOME, MAYBE HE HAD A REPEAT OFFENDER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO TARGETED, TARGETED ENFORCEMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, I REALLY, I REALLY, REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF A TIRE SHOP GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
'CAUSE I CAN'T, I CAN'T PROFESS TO KNOW WHAT IT IS FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
SO, UM, I I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
SO I, I CAN SEE THIS HAPPENING.
I PUT A DISPLAY UP AND IT'S FOUR BIG TRUCK, UH, FOUR MONSTER TRUCK TIRES.
IT'S THREE WITH A ONE ON TOP, AND IT'S REAL PRETTY.
AND I CAN PUT THAT ONE OUT FOR FIVE DAYS IN THE MONTH.
AND THEN FIVE DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE MONTH I PUT OUT HONDA TIRES.
AND IN FIVE DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE MONTH, I PUT OUT MOTORCYCLE TIRES OR YOKOHAMA OR HOW DO, YEAH.
SO THERE'S STILL TIRES OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF TIRES.
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GREAT QUESTION.SO MY APPROACH IS TO ALWAYS INTERPRET THE ORDINANCE TOWARDS ENFORCEMENT, UH, VERY LIBERALLY TOWARD ENFORCEMENT.
SO MY INTERPRETATION WOULD BE, OF COURSE, WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS TO MAKE SURE, BUT MY INTERPRETATION WOULD BE THAT ANY DISPLAY, WHETHER IT'S WHETHER YOU CHANGE THE SIZE, THE SHAPE, THE COLOR, OR WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO CHANGE, THAT, THAT DISPLAY WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED A DISPLAY FOR OVER FIVE DAYS OF, OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER.
SO THERE WOULD BE LIKE, SO YOU CAN HAVE TIRES OUT FRONT ON MONDAYS, SORRY,
JUST I, I CAN SEE WHERE THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISPLAY.
YES, BRIAN, MADAM CHAIR, I CAN ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THESE QUESTIONS FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.
UM, FIRST THE DISPLAY OF THESE THAT'S WOW.
UM, UM, IT DOESN'T, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LEGAL DEFENSE TO SAY, WELL, YESTERDAY I DISPLAYED FIVE HONDA TIRES.
NOW I'M DISPLAYING FIVE BRIDGESTONE TIRES.
THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A, A LEGAL DEFENSE.
UM, ALSO, JUST, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE DO HAVE DEFINITIONS FOR OUTSIDE DISPLAY OF THESE MATERIALS AND, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S, AND I'LL JUST READ AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE DEFINITION IS, THE TEMPORARY PLACEMENT AND DISPLAY.
AND KEEP IN MIND IN, WHEN YOU DO LEGAL CONSTRUCTION, THAT IS LEGAL INTERPRETATION.
IF THERE'S NOT A DEFINED TERM, A AN EXPRESSLY DEFINED TERM, YOU GO TO THE COMMON USAGE.
SO A DISPLAY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S IN VIEW OF THE PUBLIC.
SO IF, IF THE PUBLIC'S DRIVING BY AND CAN SEE IT, THAT'S GONNA BE A DISPLAY.
IF IT'S BEHIND A FENCE OR IF THEY'RE WALKING BY AND SEE IT, THAT'S A DISPLAY.
IF IT'S BEHIND A FENCE OR IF IT'S UNDERCOVER, THEN THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A DISPLAY.
SO IT'S THE TEMPORARY PLACEMENT AND DISPLAY IN AN UN ENCLOSED OR UNDER UNROOFED AREA OF ANY NEW GOODS.
ONE'S FOR NEW GOODS, ONE'S FOR OLD GOODS OR USED MATERIALS.
BUT THIS ONE IS NEW GOODS, UH, MATERIALS OR MERCHANDISE FOR LESS THAN 24 HOURS ON BUSINESS DAYS ONLY.
THAT IS NOT ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS, AND WHICH ARE REMOVED FROM DISPLAY AT THE END OF EACH BUSINESS DAY AND STORED INDOORS OVERNIGHT.
AND SO FOR THAT FIVE DAYS CALCULATION, THEY CAN DISPLAY IT TEMPORARILY, MEANING THROUGHOUT THE BUSINESS DAY, BUT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, IN OUR CODE, REMOVE THOSE AND PUT 'EM BACK INTO, UM, UH, UNDERCOVER, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY EACH DAY.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A HARD THING TO REGULATE BECAUSE THAT MEANS YOU'RE KEEPING A LOG AND YOU'RE HAVING SOMEBODY DRIVE BY EVERY DAY AND SEEING WHEN THEY'RE DISPLAYED AND THEN KEEPING TRACK EACH MONTH OF, OKAY, IS THIS THE FIFTH DAY OR IS THIS THE FOURTH DAY? OR ARE THEY HAVE, HAVE THEY ALREADY DONE FIVE DAYS? SO IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO TRACK.
BUT ANYWAY, JUST TO THROW OUT SOME STUFF THAT REALLY PROBABLY NOBODY CARES ABOUT BUT ME.
AND, AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
WE HOPE THAT WE COULD MAKE HEADWAY AND GET VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE WITHOUT HAVING THAT TEDIOUS EFFORT OF TRACKING, WAS IT 56, 56, 56 TIRE SHOPS EVERY SINGLE DAY? IT COULD, IT COULD BE TIME CONSUMING AND TAKE AWAY FROM OTHER HIGH PRIORITY TASKS AS WELL.
SO WE, WE HOPE THE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN WILL PAY DIVIDENDS.
A QUESTION ON THE, UM, OUTSIDE STORAGE, LONG TERM MUST BE SCREAMED SCREENED, MINIMUM SIX FOOT HIGH FENCE, WALL LANDSCAPING OR APPROVED ALTERNATIVE.
SO, UM, IT, IT DOESN'T SAY LIKE UNDER INDUSTRIAL, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS CHAIN LINK WITH SLACKS ALLOWED UNDER THE OTHER ONE.
IT DOESN'T SAY, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TO KEEP THE FENCE FROM JUST BEING A CHAIN LINK FENCE? AND HERE'S WHAT I'M, I'M THINKING OF, THERE'S ONE AT, UM, UH, FIRST STREET AND BUCKINGHAM RIGHT NEXT TO THE MCDONALD'S.
THAT ONE RIGHT THERE, IF YOU'RE DRIVING SOUTH ON FIRST STREET, I MEAN, IT'S JUST HUGE TIRE STORAGE.
IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET, BUT THAT BUILT, BUT YOU DRIVE BY THAT BUILDING ON THREE SIDES OF IT.
SO, AND THE TECHNICALLY THE BACK OF THEIR SHOP, BUT A HUNDRED PERCENT VISIBLE FROM, FROM NORTH GARLAND.
AND IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A CHAIN LINK FENCE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE TIRES IN THERE.
IT'S, I MEAN, BUT THIS RIGHT HERE SAYS FENCED AND THAT'S TECHNICALLY A FENCE.
SO IF THE GOAL IS TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT OUT OF THE VIEW OF PUBLIC, WE, I, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD NEED TO TIGHTEN UP THAT THE SCREENING RULES.
I THINK THAT'S, THERE ARE PROBABLY SEVERAL IN THE CITY THAT WE CAN, AS WE START TO FOCUS MORE ON THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS, I'M SURE WE'LL COME ACROSS THAT QUITE A BIT.
SOME THAT THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THE FENCING
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UP, BUT THEY NEED SOME SCREENING, SOME SLATS OR SOME TYPE OF MATERIAL TO KEEP IT FROM A PUBLIC VIEW.BUT I WANNA, I WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR ORDINANCE SUPPORTS THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER, UH, KING WHEEL AND TIRE OFF OF SHILOH AND GOLDFINCH IS THE PERFECT MODEL OF WHAT TO DO.
UM, I'VE NEVER SEEN A TIRE SHOP BE SO ORDERLY, LIKE ON TOP OF JUST BEING GENUINELY NICE GUYS.
UM, 'CAUSE I FIND EVERY NAIL AND SCREW IN THE STREET IN GARLAND, BUT THEY, THEY NEVER HAVE ANYTHING LEFT OUT.
THEIR, THEIR BACK IS VERY NICE AND NEAT AND NOT UNSIGHTLY.
SO IF YOU NEED A, IF YOU NEED A A EXAMPLE OF WHAT TO DO, I, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEM.
WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF OTHERS THAT ARE THE DON'TS, BUT
SO WE WILL, UM, BRING THIS TO COUNCIL.
WE, ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT TICKET TO COUNCIL OR, UM, DO WE NEED, DO WE NEED US TO APPROVE ANY, OH, WELL WE NEED TO APPROVE THE, UM, PROGRAM.
I BELIEVE, I WOULD SAY, I BELIEVE HE WANTED TO SPEAK TO A TIRE SHARP ON MM-HMM
YOU GUYS CAN HAVE YOUR OWN PERSPECTIVE, BUT YEAH, I WOULD VOTE, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
CONFER WITH THE, 'CAUSE I REALLY, MAN, I REALLY DON'T LIKE LOOKING AT STUFF WHEN WE HAVE NO PERSPECTIVE ON IT AT ALL FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
SO WHAT IF WE COULD INVITE SOMEONE FROM A GOOD TIRE SHOP AND SOMEONE FROM NOT SUCH A GOOD TIRE SHOP AND HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND LET, AND I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, I, I DON'T CARE HOW THEY DO THEIR SHOP.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
LIKE CLUB, I MEAN, HONESTLY, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO HEAR FROM ONE WHO, ONE WHO DOES IT THE RIGHT WAY.
I MEAN, WE WILL, I'LL LET Y'ALL BE THE JUDGE OF WHO YOU THINK, UH, WE WANNA TALK TO.
UM, I, I PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MAYBE A COUPLE SURE.
JUST SO THAT WE GOT, AND I, I MEAN I PERSONALLY THINK ONE END OF THE, UM, PER, UH, THE SPECTRUM.
PER, I KEPT TRYING TO SAY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S AUTISM DAY, SORRY, THE PER SPECTRUM.
AND THAT WAY WE KIND OF COVER BOTH, BOTH BASES.
I THINK THAT THE ONES THAT DO, I DON'T WANNA SAY BAD, BUT THAT ARE JUST AN EYESORE.
I THINK THAT A LOT OF THAT IS COMPLACENCY BECAUSE I MEAN, WE HAD THE CNM TIRES THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN INSPECTED IN 30 YEARS.
SO I THINK THAT A LOT OF IT'S JUST COMPLACENCY ON THEIR PART.
SO, UM, KING TIRES ONE OF THE NEWER ONES.
I MEAN THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEIR, THE VARYING OPINIONS BETWEEN SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND IT JUST KIND OF THROWS THE STUFF IN THE BACK AND CALLS, CALLS IT A DAY LIKE I DO WITH MY CAR.
UM, SO I, IF WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE WITH, UM, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIRE SHOPS.
I DON'T NECESSARILY EVEN WANT OWNERS ACTUALLY, IF WE'RE JUST BEING HONEST.
I'D LIKE JUST ON THE OPERATOR, WHETHER THE OPERATOR'S THE OWNER OR A MANAGER, BUT THE OPERATOR.
I WANT SOMEONE THAT'S THERE ON A DAILY YEAH.
THAT CAN TELL US NOT WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR, BUT JUST GUY WHO FLEW IN FROM NEW YORK TO TELL US ABOUT HIS FINES.
SO WE WANT, WE WANT AN OPERATOR.
I WANT ONE OF THE BLUE, BLUE COLLAR WORKERS, YOU KNOW, IF, UM, AND THEN WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE NEXT.
I, NEXT WEEK I THINK WE HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING SEPTEMBER 26TH.
AND IF, UH, I WOULD ASSUME YOU GUYS, SIX GUYS CAN FIND A COUPLE OF TIRE SHOP MANAGERS.
I'M SURE WE CAN HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE OR TWO OF THEM AND ASK 'EM TO ATTEND AND JUST, UH, ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
I'M, I'M SURE WE CAN, WE'LL, WE'LL PLAY A NUMBERS GAME.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE, WE'LL INVITE FOUR OR FIVE IN, IN HOPES OF GETTING TWO TO THREE TO SHOW.
WE'LL DO OUR, WE'LL DO OUR VERY BEST.
UM, MANDY, WHILE WE HAVE YOU UP HERE, UM, SO I APOLOGIZE THAT I MOST DEFINITELY FORGOT WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE ITEM WITH THE NIGHTTIME VENDORS, UM, THAT WE HAD A HEALTH DEPARTMENT ASPECT OF THAT.
SO, UM, I'M JUST ASKING IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH US HOPPING BACK OVER TO THE NIGHTTIME POP-UP BUSINESSES REAL QUICK SO WE CAN LET MANDY GIVE US A HEALTH, UM, HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERSPECTIVE ON THE FOOD SALE VENDORS.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, HOT TOPIC, SO I DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT LEGAL FOOD VENDORS AND WE GO OUT AND WE HAVE CAUGHT THEM ON MOST OCCASIONS ACTUALLY.
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THE FEW NIGHTTIME ONES WE EITHER TRY TO ARRIVE DUSK, SO IT'S STILL KIND OF SAFE, BUT OTHER THEN THAT WE'LL SEND LIKE A TWO PEOPLE AT A TIME AND WE CAUGHT THEM TOO.SO, UM, WE ALSO KIND OF SEE A, A WANING OF, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT.
UM, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF REPEAT VENDORS, UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, ESPECIALLY AT FIRST AND KINGSLEY, IT'S THE COCONUT VENDORS, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE EVERY TIME.
SO IT'S LIKE YOU ARE THE TICKET AND THEN THEY DON'T GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION.
SO IT'S JUST BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING IN TRYING TO GET ENFORCEMENT.
I THINK THE WORD HAS FINALLY GOTTEN AROUND.
'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD, I LOCK ON SOME WOOD, MANY COMPLAINTS AS WE DID.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MANDY? NO.
DALLAS COUNTY IS THE ONE THAT ISSUES THE PERMITS FOR THE MOBILE FOR THE VENDOR.
AND THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PERMISSION, IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK THAT'S PART OF THEIR REQUIREMENT.
I MEAN, ONCE THEY TOOK OVER, WE ARE, WE HAVE TO BE HANDS OFF PER LAW, SO, SO NOT A LOT.
I MEAN, CAN OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT ASKED TO SEE THEIR PERMIT? THAT'S IT.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET THAT CLEAR IN MY HEAD.
WHICH, WHICH I, I HONESTLY THINK IS THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THE COMPLAINTS WITH THE FOOD VENDORS IN MY DISTRICT.
WE GET A LOT OF THE RED IGLOO COOLER, UH, PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE JUST LIKE, YOU'RE GONNA NEED PEPTO TOMORROW.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IS THOSE THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP HOT STUFF HOT IN A COOLER VERSUS A LEGITIMATE FOOD TRUCK.
SO I DON'T HAVE QUALMS WITH, AS LONG AS YOU'RE PERMITTED, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE PASSED A HEALTH INSPECTION AT SOME POINT,
'CAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING IF THEY'RE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT'S BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE VENDOR.
SO AS LONG AS WE CAN CHECK PERMITS, I THINK IS THE BIG THING.
YOU GUYS HAVE ALL, ALL OF YOU GUYS CODE AND HELP, UM, TO HELP KIND OF COMBAT THIS.
AND I THINK AS LONG AS WE KEEP AT IT, WHERE IT'LL GET AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, I AM VERY MUCH OKAY WITH THE, THE SPREADING OF THE WORD.
LIKE THEY'RE MAIN, I'M FINE WITH THAT IF IT KEEPS OUR RESIDENTS HEALTHY.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT.
SO ARE WE STILL SKIPPING THIS? THIS ONE IS COMING BACK.
OUR NEXT ITEM UP IS GOING TO BE 3D DISCUSS THE ADOPT A STREET PROGRAM.
UM, AND THIS WAS BROUGHT TO COMMITTEE HMM.
AND, UM, MR. BASS, IF YOU WANT TO, UH, GIVE US A LITTLE INSIGHT ON YOUR VISION GOALS, HOPES, AND DREAMS AND ASPIRATIONS FOR THIS.
UM, WE'VE GOT STAFF HERE THAT, YEAH, WE, THE STAFF HAVE A PRESENTATION.
THERE IS NO PRESENTATION, NO, NOT SANITATION.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
WELL, THIS WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO ME BY SHARONDA GREEN, SO, AND HER SUGGESTION WAS TO HAVE, UH, EA ADMINISTER IT, WHICH TALKING TO STAFF WAS A GOOD IDEA.
UM, I MEAN, JUST A TRADITIONAL ADOPT A STREET PROGRAM, UM, TO TRY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE CITY CLEAN AND, YOU KNOW, GET MORE VOLUNTEER EFFORT FROM BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS.
SO, SO KIND OF LIKE, UM, TECH DOT DOES, LIKE ADOPT A HIGHWAY.
SO THAT KIND OF BASIS OF IT, UM, I GET WHERE YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.
WELL, I'LL, I'LL START WITH, UH, THE VOLUNTEER DIVISION IS UNDER PARKS AND RECREATION.
AND SO JOSE SUE DIAZ WOULD BE A VALUABLE RESOURCE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE.
I WOULD SAY WE WOULD WANT SOME DIRECTION.
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UM, WHAT AM I SAYING? PLAN TO LOOK AT IT LIKE, DO WE HAVE CERTAIN CORRIDORS WE WANNA FOCUS ON FIRST? YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.DO YOU WANT IT TO BE ANYWHERE? UM, WHAT SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, YOU'D WANNA THINK ABOUT SIGNAGE, UM, AGREEMENTS, I GUESS.
LIKE WHAT IF, WHAT IF THE ADOPT A SPOT FOLKS AREN'T MAINTAINING THE SPOT, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, SO I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH, BUT I TOTALLY THINK IN REGARDS TO THE RUNNING OF THE PROGRAM, THE LOGISTICS OF THE PROGRAM.
HOSTWAY HAS A VOLUNTEER, UM, SOFTWARE THAT HE'S WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT I THINK A THOUSAND PEOPLE NOW, YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE VOLUNTEERS AND THESE WOULD BE DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS TO A SPECIFIC SPOT.
SO THE IDEA WOULD BE SUCH AND SUCH GROUP WOULD MAINTAIN THIS AREA, NOT JUST RANDOM PEOPLE WITHIN THE DATABASE.
I JUST THINK WE NEED SOME PARAMETERS AND WHAT THE VISION WOULD LOOK LIKE.
I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, I MEAN, OF COURSE IT, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO ROLL OUT CITYWIDE TO START OFF WITH EITHER, UM, ALONG PARTICULAR CORRIDORS OR IN A PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, AND THEN I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE PUT UP A LITTLE SIGN THIS SECTION, YOU KNOW, ADOPT A STREET BY WHATEVER THIS CHURCH.
UM, WOULD WE WANT TO, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD NEED TO CHARGE THEM SOMETHING.
UM, OR MAYBE NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN SOMETHING IN PLACE IN CASE THAT THEY'RE NOT MAINTAINING IT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, TELL WHATEVER YOU'VE GOTTA GO BY AT LEAST ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS AND PICK UP TRASH ALONG THIS ROADWAY OR WHATEVER, AND REPORT ANY PROBLEMS THAT YOU SEE.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF THEY SEE A POTHOLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE COULD PUT THAT INTO PART OF IT, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE WHOLE AESTHETIC AND MAINTENANCE OF AN AREA.
UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK GETTING MORE EYES AND MORE HANDS ON SOMETHING IS, IS NOT A BAD THING.
BUT, UM, I GUESS MAYBE LOOK, I WOULD LOOK AT HOW OTHER, HOW OTHER CITIES DO THEIR ADOPTED STREET PROGRAM.
I MEAN, NO REASON TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
SO I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THERE'S VERY LITTLE FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE SANITATION SIDE.
UH, SHARONDA GREEN IS ACTUALLY A MEMBER OF THE ECAB.
AND SHE PRESENTED IT TO THE BOARD, BUT THERE WAS NO INTEREST FROM THE BOARD.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST PROBLEM FROM EXPERIENCE, UH, FROM SOME OF THE MEMBERS IN THE PAST.
THAT, UH, THEY PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, BUT THEN THEY HAVE A REALLY BIG PROBLEM FINDING VOLUNTEERS TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW THROUGH AND CONTINUE THOSE PROBLEMS. SO THEY'VE IMPLEMENTED 'EM IN THE PAST, BUT THEY JUST DON'T LAST.
SO MAYBE THAT IS ON THE BACKEND SIDE, ON THE CITY SIDE, HOW TO TIE IN VOLUNTEERS, YOU KNOW, HOSUE AND PARKS AND REC TIE IN WITH OTHER, BECAUSE I MEAN, ON THAT NOTE, RIGHT, JOSUE IS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND PARKS AND REC IS NOW SUPPOSED TO BE OVER VOLUNTEERS FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY.
WE'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE ALL CONSOLIDATE THAT BASICALLY MM-HMM
SO I WOULD THINK THAT'S WHERE SOMETHING WHERE ECAP NEEDS TO GET WITH, WITH HOST SWAY.
AND THAT WOULD HELP TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.
BECAUSE WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO, WHETHER IT'S ARBOR DAY, A LITTER LAKE SHORE CLEANUP, WHATEVER IT IS, THE IDEA IS STARTING TO GET THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED SO THAT, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST BE LITTER.
IT COULD BE, I WANNA READ TO SENIORS, I WANT TO WORK A SPECIAL EVENT, I WANNA HELP OUT WITH IT.
SO, BUT HE'S GOT TO BUILD THAT, THAT DATABASE OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WANT TO GET ENGAGED.
UM, AND I MEAN, MAYBE THERE ARE WAYS TO LOOK AT IT WHERE, AGAIN, BRAINSTORMING, MAYBE YOU TIE INTO DEDICATED GROUPS.
WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE TO START OFF LIKE MAYBE AN ADOPT A SPOT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS, UM, IN REGARDS TO LIKE THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP COUNCIL.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY DO, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE KIND OF THE MODEL OF THAT, OR, AND YOU GET OTHER ENGAGEMENT.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S WAYS TO GO ABOUT IT.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THE DATA AND INFO AT THE MOMENT.
SO ONE THING I WOULD, UM, MAYBE WE COULD THINK ABOUT WOULD BE, BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL CITY, UM, AND A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES HAVE MANDATORY COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES, UM, MAYBE WE COULD PARTNER WITH THE CHAMBER WHERE WE COULD GO AND MAYBE APPROACH SOME BUSINESSES AND BE LIKE, HEY, WOULD YOU GUYS BE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING THIS INTERSECTION OR THIS STRETCH OF THE STREET? I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD WANT TO CHARGE THEM, BUT MAYBE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING A SIGN OR TWO UP THAT, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
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SURE EVERYONE'S AWAKE,I DON'T WANNA SEE THE CITY NECESSARILY BE OUT OF THE COST, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WILL ARGUE THAT WE'RE ALREADY A HEAVILY SIGNED CITY.
I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE FOR A BUSINESS BECAUSE IT KIND OF GIVES THEM THAT GOOD PR.
SO IT WOULD GIVE THEM THAT GOOD PR AS WELL AS GIVING THEIR EMPLOYEES ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO HIT THOSE, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICE GOALS THAT THEY'VE GOT.
UM, AND I, I THINK THE CHAMBER WOULD, WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP US WITH THAT IF THAT WAS, IF WE WANTED TO GO THAT AVENUE.
IF THAT, IF THAT KIND OF ALIGNS WITH WHERE SHARONDA WAS GOING.
AND I THINK THAT IF WE LOOK AT HOW, JUST LOOK AT REALLY QUICK HOW OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT, THAT'S GONNA ADDRESS WHETHER BUSINESSES ARE WILLING TO PAY, NOT PAY.
UM, AND THEN, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, HOSUE IS GONNA BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT, NOT ONLY IS HE LOOKING FOR THE VOLUNTEER GROUPS, BUT ALSO FOR VOLUNTEER NEEDS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTION, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S MET WITH THE CHAMBER BEFORE HE'S WORKED WITH THEM AND, AND THEN YEAH, MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO GET IN WITH DCMA AS WELL.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT, YEAH, I MEAN HIS, HE'S GONNA BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS IN MAKING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD TO THAT VOLUNTEER NEED.
WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE, UH, MS. GREEN MAYBE SPEAK WITH JOSE SUE AND KIND OF SHARE HER VISION? ABSOLUTELY.
'CAUSE SHE MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER PERSPECTIVES.
INCLUDE YOU AND I SOME, MAYBE WE DO SOME BRAINSTORMING AND, UM, GIVE SHAWANDA THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH JOSE UE.
MAYBE WE CAN GET WITH, UM, THE CHAMBER AND THEN HAVE EVERYONE KIND OF RECONVENE.
AND THEN LOOK AT HOW, LOOK AT HOW OTHER CITIES ARE HANDLING THE PROGRAM.
WE GIVE IT AND THEN BRING ALL THAT TOGETHER.
MAYBE NOT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THE MEETING AFTER.
SO THEN IT GIVES US AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF TWO MONTHS.
THAT ACTUALLY WORKS REALLY WELL.
'CAUSE A LOT OF US, HOSUE INCLUDED ARE GONE TO ORLANDO IN, UM, SEPTEMBER FOR OUR ACCREDITATION.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK IN OCTOBER.
AND THEN OUR LAST AND FINAL, IS IT OUR LAST AND FINAL? LET ME MAKE SURE BEFORE I MAKE UP.
UM, OUR LAST AND FINAL AGENDA ITEM IS GOING TO BE THREE E DISCUSS LAKE RAY HUBBARD AREA MAINTENANCE.
THIS WAS A SCOPING MEETING AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN, UH, ASKED TO TABLE THIS UNTIL A FUTURE MEETING.
SO, UM, WE, WE ARE ACTUALLY FINISHED.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS COMMITTEE? WE'RE GOOD.
THAT WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING.