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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO THE CITY OF GARLAND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
I AM JOINED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BJ WILLIAMS AND CHRIS BEARD.
WE ARE, WE ARE LATE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW JESUS MADE US.
WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET INTO THIS.
AND OUR, UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO DO APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 19TH, 2025 MINUTES.
COUNSEL, HAVE YOU ALL HAD A TIME TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES FROM THAT MEETING? OH.
AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
SO WE HAVE A, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY CHRIS BEARD, SECOND BY MR. BJ WILLIAMS. THAT IS, OH, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? OKAY.
UM, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? UM, YES.
AND ONTO OUR FIRST, UH, FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PERSONS WHO DESIRE TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE ON ANY AGENDA ITEM ARE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
TESTIMONY MAY BE HELD UNTIL THE ITEM IS CONSIDERED OR GIVEN AT THE BEGINNING OF ANY COMMITTEE MEETING.
INVITED TESTIMONY MAY ALSO OCCUR AT ANY TIME SUBJECT TO REQUEST OF THE MEMBER OF COMMITTEE AND THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON.
UM, AND DO WE HAVE ANY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WANTING TO SPEAK TO THE COMMITTEE? YES, UH, BOB DUCKWORTH.
MR. DUCKWORTH, IF YOU'LL COME TO THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
SO, UH, LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE.
9 0 9 WAKEFIELD DRIVE CAR, TEXAS 7 5 0 4 0.
AND WOULD YOU START THAT OVER AT THREE MINUTES? 'CAUSE I'M NOT I SURE WILL FOR YOU.
COUNCIL LADY DUTTON AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M HERE TO SE SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT SAFETY AND SECURITY.
WE PUT YOUR AS RELATES AS RELATES TO THE RELATIONSHIP WITH AS CINDY GARLAND AND THE GARLAND, ISD UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW UPDATED OR YOU ARE EDUCATED ON THIS PARTNERSHIP THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL.
UH, IT CONSISTS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT WHO LAST YEAR WERE ON THE, UH, THE SCHOOL'S WEBSITE AS MEMBERS.
THAT, THAT MEMBER WEBSITE IS NOW BLANK.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MEMBERS ON IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S THE MEMBERS FROM THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
SO ANYWAY, UM, MY CONCERN IS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND FOR YOU PARTICULARLY AS THIS GROUP, TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THE SAFETY AND SECURITY REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR OUR CITY GOVERNMENT AND THE COUNCIL.
UH, WE ALL REMEMBER THE, WHAT HAPPENED IN UVALDE A FEW YEARS AGO, AND I READ RECENTLY THAT, UH, THAT CITY SETTLED A $2 MILLION SETTLEMENT OVER THAT ISSUE.
AND, UH, THE COMMUNITY STOPPED IT AT 2 MILLION BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR INSURANCE LIMIT.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BANKRUPT THE CITY.
SO, UH, MY CONCERN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AS COUNCIL AND UH, COMMITTEES, UH, IN OUR CITY, UH, ARE UP TO DATE ON WHAT THE SAFETY AND SECURITY POLICIES AND REQUIREMENTS ARE.
UH, ON THE DIS I MEAN, ON THE STATE WEBSITE, THERE'S A, UH, TEXT CALLED TEXAS SAFETY AND SECURITY COMMISSION.
AND THERE ARE, UH, CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS IN THAT.
IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.
AND I'VE GIVEN, UH, YOUR SEC SECRETARY OVER HERE A A COPY OF SOME INFORMATION FROM THOSE TWO SITES.
UH, BUT THIS, UH, WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO KIND OF READ UP, UH, GET THE DATE ON THAT.
AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANT TO SEE OUR CITY GET INTO ANY KINDA SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
PART OF THIS PLAN IS AN, AN EMERGENCY OPERATING PROCEDURE.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THAT OR NOT, BUT, UH, I'M SURE IT REQUIRES THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT IN, IN THIS CASE, THE, UH, THE GROUP THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WOULD SURELY BE INVOLVED, UH, IN ANY KIND OF INCIDENT WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF AN EDUCATIONAL DEAL AND I GUESS YOU HAVE TO FORCE FEED YOU WITH IT TO EDUCATE YOU.
I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT, UH, AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I, I'M PRETTY UP TO DATE ON THAT STUFF.
WE APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TODAY.
SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS GONNA BE ITEMS FOR INDI INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND WE ARE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE
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ON OPERATIONAL READINESS OF THE GANG AND SWAT UNITS FROM THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT.THIS ITEM WAS REFERRED TO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE BY MYSELF WITH THE SECOND OF DEPUTY MAYOR PROTON LUT AT THE MAY 19TH WORK SESSION.
AND, UH, CHIEF BRIAN, YOU WANNA GO FIRST? I'LL GO AND YOU CAN START THE THREE MINUTES AND I'LL END IN THREE MINUTES.
UH, SO I DID GET A REQUEST TO TALK ABOUT OPERATIONAL READINESS ABOUT THE GANG UNIT AND SWAT TEAM.
I'M NOT QUITE, I WAS GONNA, UH, LISTEN TO THE QUESTIONS I HAVE 'CAUSE I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED.
BUT I'M GONNA PROVIDE YOU KIND OF AN OVERSIGHT OF BOTH UNITS AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO QUESTIONS.
UH, I'VE GOT SCOTT BERG, MY, UH, RESIDENT EXPERT ON ALL THINGS SWAT HERE.
I SAY THAT 'CAUSE HE JUST TRANSFERRED, UH, TO, TO THE PATROL LIEUTENANT POSITION.
SO HE'S NOW OVER THE SWAT TEAM.
UM, BUT THE GANG UNIT, WE'LL START WITH THE GANG UNIT.
WE HAVE 10, UH, GANG UNIT OFFICERS.
WE HAVE ONE GANG UNIT SUPERVISOR.
UH, INSIDE THOSE 10 GANG UNIT OFFICERS ARE TWO GANG INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS.
SO THEY'RE THE TWO THAT GATHER INTELLIGENCE, THAT ARE MONITORING SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT ARE MONITORING EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP.
AND THEN THEY'RE DISSEMINATING THAT INFORMATION TO THE GANG UNIT, UM, THAT IS WORKING OUT IN THE FIELD.
OUR GANG UNIT IS VERY PROACTIVE GANG UNIT.
IN FACT, I'D SAY ONE OF THE MOST PROACTIVE TEAMS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A LONG TIME.
THEY SHOW UP FOR WORK EVERY DAY.
THEY REVIEW THE SHIFT REPORTS, THEY LOOK FOR ANY GANG ACTIVITY THAT HAS OCCURRED IN THE PAST 24 HOURS, AND THEN THEY ARE IMMEDIATELY GOING INTO ACTION, UH, TO ADDRESS WHATEVER THOSE ISSUES ARE.
I THINK YOU KNOW THAT, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUTH GANGS, OUR PRIMARY FOCUS IS ON DETERRENCE AND FINDING A WAY OUTSIDE OF THE GANGS INSTEAD OF ENFORCEMENT.
UH, WE HAVE THE YOUTH BOXING GYM THAT HAS BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE OF, OF CHANNELING SOME OF THAT ENERGY SOMEWHERE ELSE THAN CRIME.
UH, BUT WE DO HAVE ISSUES WITH, UH, GAME CRIME IN THE CITY OF GARLAND.
AND WE DO HAVE ISSUES IN THE SCHOOL.
UH, THE SWAT TEAM, LET ME TALK ABOUT THE SWAT TEAM KIND OF AT A HIGH LEVEL.
UH, BUT OUR SWAT TEAM IS, IS ONE OF THE MOST WELL-KNOWN, WELL-TRAINED, UH, WELL-RESPECTED SWAT TEAM, NOT JUST IN THE METROPLEX, BUT IN THE STATE AND IN THE NATION.
UH, OUR SWAT TEAM IS OFF OFTEN IN THE BACK SWAT TEAM FOR DALLAS, FOR IRVING, FOR GRAND PRAIRIE.
UH, AND SO IT'S A VERY WELL RESPECTED AND VERY, UH, WELL-KNOWN AND WELL-TRAINED TEAM.
THERE ARE SWAT 20 SWAT TEAM MEMBERS ON THE TEAM THAT IS JUST THE SWAT PERSONNEL.
AND THEN THERE ARE THREE LIEUTENANTS, A CAPTAIN AND ASSISTANT CHIEF SCOTT BOBERG KIND OF MAKE UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND ON THE SWAT TEAM.
BUT THOSE ARE JUST THE ACTIVE MEMBERS.
THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE SUPPORT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE SWAT TEAM.
SO WE HAVE A SWAT INTELLIGENCE GROUP THAT ARE, IF THERE IS A WARRANT OR IF THERE IS, UH, UH, UH, SWAT, UH, CALL OUT THAT OCCURS.
THE INTELLIGENCE SIDE OF THINGS ALSO ACTIVATE.
SO THEY'RE FEEDING REAL TIME INFORMATION, UH, TO THE SWAT TEAM.
WE HAVE SWAT TACTICAL MEDICS THAT ARE PART OF THE SUPPORT OF THE TEAM.
AND THE TACTICAL MEDIC MEDICS, UH, GO IN WITH THE TEAM AND THEY'RE READY TO ADMINISTER FIRST AID IMMEDIATELY, UH, SHOULD SOMETHING OCCUR.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, UH, OTHER RESOURCES, OTHER SUPPORT STAFF, UH, NEGOTIATORS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M FORGETTING TO MENTION.
UH, WE HAVE 11 NEGOTIATORS THAT ARE A PART OF THE SWAT TEAM.
UH, NEGOTIATORS HAVE THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT VAN TO CONDUCT THEIR NEGOTIATIONS.
AND UH, THAT'S KIND OF ROUNDS OUT THE TEAM.
WE HAVE TWO, UH, ARMORED VEHICLES.
UH, THE CITY COUNCIL BLESSED US WITH, UH, A NEW UPDATED ARMORED VEHICLE A FEW YEARS AGO THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
AND, UM, THAT'S JUST, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT OUR GUYS, OUR TROOPS.
I JUST WANTED TO, TO GIVE A, A KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THOSE TWO UNITS.
AND I, I KNOW YOU MAY HAVE SPECIFIC CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, UH, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS ON THE AGENDA.
SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN HELP ADDRESS THOSE.
UM, BEFORE I ASK ALL MY 800 QUESTIONS, UH, COUNSEL, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'VE JUST VERY THANKFUL FOR BOTH OF OUR GANG AND SWAT UNITS.
I'VE, UM, GOTTEN TO KNOW A LOT OF THOSE MEMBERS OVER THE YEARS AND I THINK THEY DO A WONDERFUL JOB.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND, UH, DID I DID TO, UH, DITO HER, UH, NO QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT, UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE SWAT UNIT INTERFACE WITH THE GANG UNIT AND
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AS FAR AS THE INTELLIGENCE ASPECTS OF THEIR WORK? WELL, THAT, THAT'S PRETTY SEAMLESS.SEAMLESS BECAUSE OUR SWAT ARE GANG UNIT IS MADE UP OF SWAT TEAM MEMBERS.
SO, UH, SO I WOULD SAY, AND I'D HAVE TO TO PUT THOSE NUMBERS, HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE NAMES, BUT A PROBABLY THREE FOURTHS OF OUR GANG UNIT ARE SWAT TEAM MEMBERS.
UH, SWAT TEAM IS A SECONDARY DUTY.
SO THE OFFICER'S PRIMARY DUTY WOULD BE PATROL GANG UNIT, N-P-O-S-R-O, WHATEVER THAT PRIMARY DUTY IS.
AND THEN THEIR SECONDARY DUTY MAY BE AS A MEMBER OF THE SWAT TEAM.
IT'S JUST HAPPENS THAT MOST OF THE GANG UNIT OFFICERS ARE ALSO SWAT TEAM OFFICERS, SO THAT IN FACT THEY'RE ALSO TEAM LEADERS.
SO THAT COMMUNICATION IS, IS BUILT IN NATURALLY, I GUESS.
AND MY, MY LAST QUESTION IS, YOU MENTIONED TWO ARMORED ARMORED UNITS.
WHO, AND, AND THE, UM, UH, AND CHAIN OF COMMAND, UH, HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MOBILIZE THAT, WHETHER IT TO BE FOR, FOR, FOR FOR GARLAND USE OR FOR THE, UH, UH, THE TAXI FOR DALLAS.
WHO, WHO, WHO WOULD, WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY, IF YOU WILL, WHETHER TO MOBILIZE THOSE TWO ARMORED UNITS? WELL, THE SHORT ANSWER IS THIS GUY RIGHT HERE, UH, SCOTT VORENBERG.
BUT THE LONGER ANSWER IS, SO LET ME, UH, CLARIFY SOMETHING.
WHEN WE SAY ARMORED VEHICLE, UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE I, I OFTEN GET QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ARMORED VEHICLE BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT IT'S, I GUESS AN OFFENSIVE, UH, UH, VEHICLE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S A DEFENSIVE VEHICLE.
THE WHOLE REASON FOR ITS EXISTENCE IS TO PROTECT THOSE INDIVIDUALS INSIDE FROM GETTING SHOT.
AND SO THERE, THERE'S NO OFFENSIVE CAPABILITIES, THERE'S NO CANON, THERE'S NO WATER CANON, THERE'S NO, IT, IT IS JUST ONE PURPOSE.
AND THAT IS SO WE CAN DEPLOY THESE, UH, SWAT TEAM MEMBERS INTO SOME OF THE MOST DEADLY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS AND THEY ARE PROTECTED.
THAT'S THE ONLY PURPOSE OF THAT.
NOW, IF IT IS GONNA BE DEPLOYED INTERNALLY IN THE CITY, THAT'S USUALLY, OR ALMOST, ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY AS A RESULT OF, OF A SWAT WARRANT.
AND IF A SWAT WARRANT IS OCCURRING, THAT'S GONNA GO ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND TO ASSISTANT CHIEF THORNBERG.
HE'S ALSO GONNA NOTIFY ME, UH, HE DOES NOT NEED MY APPROVAL TO GET THAT MOVING, BUT HE IS GONNA LET ME KNOW THAT THAT'S OCCURRING.
UH, AND THEN IT'S THE SAME FOR OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
UM, HOW MANY GANGS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CITY? YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE WANTING THAT PART OF, OF UH, DISCUSSION.
WE, YOU KNOW, I, I PUT THAT, WE, WE PUT THAT TOGETHER.
I'M TRYING TO THINK WHEN THAT WAS.
I DID A PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ON THE NUMBER OF GANGS AND GANG MEMBERS.
I CAN SEND YOU AN UPDATED VERSION OF THAT.
BUT IT, IT IS A KIND OF A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF THE NUMBER OF GANGS AND THE NUMBER OF GANG MEMBERS IN OUR CITY.
UH, UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S EVER FLOWING NUMBERS.
AND ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE HIGH, THERE'S ONLY A FEW NUMBER OF ACTIVE, RIGHT.
I GUESS VIOLENT GANG MEMBERS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE WHAT YOU WANNA CALL, I DON'T WANNA SAY WANNABES, BUT REALLY THAT'S THE NAME OF RIGHT.
OF KIDS THAT ARE KIND OF PROGRESSING THAT WAY.
UM, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY GET THOSE NUMBERS TO YOU.
UM, BUT I WASN'T SURE WHAT, WHEN, WHEN IT, WHEN I SAW THE DISCUSSION, I WASN'T SURE WHAT THAT WAS.
BUT I CAN GET THAT, THAT'S TO THE COMMITTEE.
IF WE COULD GET A BREAKDOWN KIND OF, UM, OF, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THE NUMBER OF GANGS VERSUS ACTIVE GANGS VERSUS VIOLENT GANGS, I GUESS, UM, JUST KIND OF A OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE'VE CURRENTLY GOT.
YEAH, I CAN, I'LL, I'LL DEFINITELY SEND YOU SOMETHING.
'CAUSE WE HAVE THAT, UH, WE HAVE THAT TOGETHER AND WE, WE KEEP TRACK OF THAT.
AND UH, SO I'LL HAVE SOMEBODY PUT THAT TOGETHER AND OKAY.
AND THEN PROBABLY ALONGSIDE THAT WOULD BE, UM, ARE WE SEEING AN UPWARD OR DOWNWARD TREND ON OUR ACTIVE AND VIOLENT GANGS? LIKE HOW DOES THAT KIND OF LOOK IF, UM, I'M SURE THAT RIGHT, RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE BOARD AND I, I'D LIKE TO KNOCK ON WOOD 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN A POLICE CHIEF SAYS THIS, IT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IT ALWAYS, IT CAN TURN ON A DIME.
BUT RIGHT NOW, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE
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CITY OF GARLAND, YOU KNOW, WE SAW ABOUT A, I CAN'T REMEMBER, EIGHT, SEVEN, 8% DECREASE IN CRIME LAST YEAR IN BOTH VIOLENT AND PROPERTY CRIME.AND WE'RE SEEING MORE THAN THAT THIS YEAR.
AGAIN, IT'S CHIEF'S FAMOUS LAST WORD SAYING CRIME'S DOWN.
'CAUSE THEN YOU GOTTA TAKE OWNERSHIP WHEN CRIME GOES UP.
BUT WE ARE SEEING SO FAR THIS YEAR A DOWNWARD TREND IN CRIME.
UH, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE HAD SOME VERY HIGH PROFILE INCIDENTS, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR, BUT OVERALL THE TREND IS DOWN.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE RECENT WALNUT INCIDENT THAT WE HAD, UM, WITH OUR, OUR SUITING THAT INVOLVED A, A LITTLE 3-YEAR-OLD.
UM, CAN YOU GIVE US ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? WAS IT GANG RELATED? UM, WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, ANYTHING I SAY ABOUT AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL CASE OR AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION, UH, ONE, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
AND TWO, THAT, THAT INFORMATION THAT IF I PROVIDED YOU INFORMATION WOULD BE INFORMATION THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO ALSO ATTACH AND GO TO THE CASE.
SO, UM, I, I CAN DISCUSS SOME THINGS OFF THE RECORD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DETAILS, BUT I, I CAN'T, UH, PUBLICLY DISCUSS AN ACTIVE, UH, INVESTIGATION OR CASE THAT'S MOVING THROUGH.
I, UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS MORE THAN FAIR
UM, THEN CAN DO, YOU KNOW, UM, OFFHAND IF YOU NEED TO GET BACK TO ME, I TOTALLY GET IT.
UM, HOW MANY SWAT WARRANTS WE'VE SERVED THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR? I DO NOT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD GET BACK TO US? I CAN.
AND THEN ALSO THE KIND OF SAME, UM, ARE WE UPWARD DOWNWARD TREND AND THEN IF WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ANY UM, ANY REASON FOR THE UPWARD OR DOWNWARD TREND? I GUESS I KNOW THAT, UM, THE FLOCK SYSTEM HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL.
UM, AND FROM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS YOU, UM, CHIEF BRIAN THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE FLOCK, IT'S HELPING CUT BACK A LOT OF REPEAT OFFENDERS BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO CATCH THEM ON THE FIRST TIME AND KIND OF HELPING KEEP THAT AT BASE SO WE'RE NOT OUT ROBBING FOUR BANKS BEFORE WE CATCH SOMEBODY.
SO IS THAT, ARE WE STILL FEELING THAT WAY? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL TOOLS WE HAVE IN THE CITY IS THE FLOCK SYSTEM.
SO YEAH, I ABSOLUTELY FEEL THIS WAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL MENTION SWAT TOO WHEN IT TALK COMES TO SWAT WARRANTS, YOU KNOW, YOU, IT, IT'S INTERESTING WITH SWAT WARRANTS BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE A, A BUNCH AT ONE TIME AND THEN WE'LL HAVE LONG TIMES WITH NO SWAT WARRANTS.
AND SWAT WARRANTS ARE SO INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC INCIDENTS.
YOU KNOW, YOU, UH, WE HAD ONE AT THE, UH, MOTELS, NOT TWO, UH, LONG AGO LAST MONTH.
WE HAD A SWAT WARRANT AT ONE OF THE LOCAL MOTELS.
AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT RELATED TO SPECIFICALLY A TREND OR IT'S NOT RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, OUR SWAT WARRANTS GOING UP AND DOWN, BUT IT'S RELATED TO THAT ONE, THE DETAILS OF THAT ONE SPECIFIC INCIDENT.
AND SO, BUT WE DO SEE TIMES WHERE THERE'S SEVERAL AND THEN, AND THEN THERE'LL BE BREAKS FOR MONTHS WHERE THERE'S NOT ANY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS YOU.
UM, BUT I, I CAN GET YOU THE NUMBERS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR A NUMBER OF SWAT WARRANTS.
AND THEN, UM, I THINK, I THINK MY LAST QUESTION, UM, SO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BOXING GYM, THE NIGHT DRINK, BOXING GYM.
I AM A HUGE SUPPORTER OF, UM, ALL THINGS KIDS AND KEEPING THEM OUT OF HARM'S WAY AND OFF THE STREETS.
AND SO THE BOXING GYM IS A FAN GIRL FOR THEM ALL DAY LONG.
UM, JUDD AND I ACTUALLY WERE JUST DISCUSSING THE BOXING GYM AND WHAT DO WE DO TO MAKE THEM, UM, MOST EFFECTIVE IN OUR CITY.
AND AS YOU WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM START IN THE SCHOOLS.
SO MY QUESTION WAS, UM, DO WE HAVE OUR GANG UNIT GOING INTO, I MEAN, EVEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? 'CAUSE THESE KIDS ARE WILD.
UM, THEY'RE ALL FERAL, I FEEL LIKE NOWADAYS, RIGHT? UM, SO DO WE, DO WE HAVE, UM, JUST LIKE THAT PROACTIVE MEASURE WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, UM, TRYING TO REACH THEM EARLY ON AND GETTING THEM GETTING IN THEIR EARS BEFORE THE BAD GUYS DO? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST RESOURCE WE HAVE FOR THAT INITIALLY IS OUR SROS IN THE SCHOOLS.
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING THE FIRST CONTACT, THEY'RE MAKING, UH, THE FIRST DISCUSSIONS WITH PARENTS, WITH THE KIDS.
UH, BUT THEN THAT LEADS TO PULLING THE GANG UNITS INTO THE SCHOOLS IF IT IS GETTING TO THE POINT THEY NEED TO BE THERE OR IF IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE SEE A CONFRONTATION THAT'S COMING ON THE HORIZONS.
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YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY SCARED STRAIGHT, BUT I FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU'RE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND YOU SEE THOSE BIG BAD SWAT GUYS WITH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THEIR GANG UNIT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL BUILT, RIGHT? LIKE THEY'VE GOT MUSCLES BIGGER THAN YOUR HEAD.AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'VE GOT A TODDLER ON EACH ARM, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S ENOUGH TO KIND OF MAKE LASTING IMPRESSIONS.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME, YOU KNOW, JUST PROACTIVE, YOU KNOW, GANG UNIT SWAT GUYS, YOU KNOW, DOING A CAREER DAY OR WHATEVER AT THE SCHOOLS.
JUST THIS IS WHAT YOU GET TO LOOK FORWARD TO IF YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA PLAY AROUND.
UM, I THINK THAT GET IN, GET IN THEIR HEADS A LITTLE EARLY, YOU KNOW? YEAH, DEFINITELY.
AND WE WANT TO, UH, ALSO BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS EARLY SO THEY, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE WANT, WE NEED THAT INFORMATION FROM THEM.
WE NEED, UH, UH, THAT CONNECTION WITH THEM AND, AND THOSE, THE TROOPS DO A GOOD JOB AT THAT.
WELL WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS DO.
AND SWAT IS ALWAYS A HUGE, UH, FAN FAVORITE AT ALL OF OUR CITY EVENTS AND WE LOVE CRAWLING THROUGH THE, THE BEARCAT AND UM, DEFINITELY DO A JOB THAT MOST OF US DON'T WANNA DO AND COULD NOT DO.
UM, DO EITHER OF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT NO.
THAT YOU HAVE NOTHING? NO, NOTHING.
I WILL GET THIS INFORMATION TO YOU, UH, ASAP.
UM, AND LET'S SEE, MITCH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANNA THROW IN THERE OR? NO, THAT'S JUST THE LAST ITEM THAT, THE ONLY ITEM THAT WE HAD FOR TODAY.
UM, SO DO WE NEED TO DO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? NO.
SO IF WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE, WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT ONE THIRTY SIX, TWENTY TWENTY FIVE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REACH THE CLOCK.
WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.