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          SEE, THEY'RE MAKING THEIR WAY DOWNTOWN. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          GOOD MORNING, JUDSON. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          YOU'RE GONNA SIT NEXT TO ME, OR WHAT DID YOU WANT ME TO, UH, SORRY, WHO'S GIVING ME THE THUMBS UP WHEN WE'RE READY? THUMBS UP. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, I'M ONLY FIVE THREE. 
          I CAN'T SEE OVER THE CHAIRS. 
          , BEFORE YOU START, HEY, IF THERE ARE ANY LG ALUMNI IN THIS ROOM, THE LEADERSHIP GARLAND BARBECUE IS AT MY HOUSE ONE WEEK FROM TODAY. 
          5:30 PM SO CAN WE COME ANYWAY? NO. 
          , THEN WE DON'T CARE. 
          CHAMBER LOVE ONLY BABY LEADERSHIP GARLAND. 
          THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 
          , I THOUGHT ABOUT GOING TO LEADERSHIP . 
          OKAY. 
          ARE WE READY TO ROLL? WE'RE READY. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 25TH, AND WE ARE GETTING STARTED AT 10:02 AM I AM CHRIS DUTTON, THE CHAIR. 
          WE'VE GOT COUNCIL MEMBERS BEARD AND BASS WITH US THIS MORNING. 
          UM, AND OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 
          UM, COUNCIL, DID YOU HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OVER THE AUGUST 28TH MINUTES? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND. 
          PERFECT. 
          THAT ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. 
          AND THEN NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK? I SEE A BUNCH OF ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, ITEM THREE, EIGHT IS DISCUSS OUTSIDE STORAGE OF TIRES. 
          UM, ARE ARE WE, ARE WE READY FOR THAT OR DO I NEED TO WAIT? ONE'S NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'LL PUSH THAT ONE DOWN WHILE WE WAIT FOR BRIAN. 
          UM, SO THREE B IS LAKE RAY HUBBARD. 
          THIS IS A SCOPING DISCUSSION. 
          THE COMMITTEE WILL DISCUSS LAKE RAY HUBBARD AREA MAINTENANCE. 
          THIS ITEM WAS ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE FOLLOWING A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO. 
          TIM LUT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE, DO YOU WANNA COME UP AND TELL US WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS AND HOPES AND DREAMS ARE FOR LAKE RAY HUBBARD? THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, THIS IS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY THAT I'VE EVER HAD TO COME AND SIT IN THIS SEAT, . 
          AND NOW I UNDERSTAND A LOT MORE ABOUT WHY THE PEANUT GALLERY OVER THERE LIKES THAT AREA BECAUSE WE GET TO GET HEAD OUT MOST OF THE TIME. 
          BUT, UH, CHAIRMAN DUTTON, I'M HERE THIS MORNING BECAUSE, UH, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, UH, FOR RESCHEDULING. 
          UH, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE HERE ON OUR LAST OCCASION, BUT, UH, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SUBJECT. 
          FOUR, DISTRICT THREE. 
          CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE TO YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT? SORRY. 
          MAKE SURE THAT WE, I'M SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT. 
          AM I ? OKAY. 
          UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE ARE AT THIS POINT DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THE WAY OF, UH, REVITALIZING, UH, REDEVELOPMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE WAY OF THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD AREA, DISTRICT THREE. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS REALLY PLAGUED US OVER THE, UH, YEARS HAS BEEN THE DEBRIS, THE TRASH THAT BUILDS UP ON THE SHORES OF LAKE RAY HUBBARD. 
          AND FOR SOME REASON, WE GET ALL OF THE TRASH FROM THE SURROUNDING AREAS, ROW AT, UH, UH, ROCK WALL AND, UH, ATCH, WHATEVER. 
          AND WE HAVE STUDIED IT. 
          WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS POINT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE, UH, PURPOSELY OR MALICIOUSLY DOING. 
          IT'S JUST THAT, UH, THE WAY THAT THE WIND BLOWS AND THE WAY THAT THE LAND IS TERRAIN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, THAT BUILDUP TAKES PLACE AND IT TAKES PLACE EVERY YEAR AND AROUND THE YEAR. 
          A AS A RESULT OF THAT, OF COURSE, OUR, UH, RESIDENTS HAVE ATTEMPTED ON, UH, MANY OCCASIONS TO KIND OF KEEP THEIR AREAS CLEAN. 
          AND WE HAVE ALSO DONE VOLUNTEER WORK, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          UH, THEY'VE DONE LOTS OF WORK TRYING TO HELP US TO, TO KEEP THE AREA CLEAN OF DEBRIS. 
          UH, BUT WE ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO, UH, DEAL WITH THIS SITUATION AD HOC OR AS IS NEEDED, IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE PURPOSEFUL ABOUT, NEED TO BE PLANNING IT. 
          AND, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, UH, DID, UH, COUPLE OF WEEKS, A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK MAYBE NOW, I MET WITH DALLAS, UH, CITY COUNCILWOMAN PAULA BLACKMAN, AND TALKED TO HER ABOUT WAYS BY 
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WHICH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH DALLAS IN THE WAY OF MAINTAINING THAT AREA. 
          UH, SPOKE WITH HER ABOUT, UH, WAYS BY WHICH THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ASSIST US. 
          AND, UH, I'LL TELL YOU, I WAS VERY EXCITED AFTER OUR MEETING BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT ONLY, UH, WILLING TO HELP US WITH WORDS, BUT SHE WAS WILLING TO ASSIST US, UH, WITH FINANCES AS WELL AS EQUIPMENT. 
          AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, UH, I ASKED OUR CITY MANAGER AND ASK OUR COUNCIL IF WE COULD BRING THIS, UH, TO THIS COMMITTEE SUCH THAT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND PUT SOME, UH, SOME FEET, PUT SOME, UH, UH, SOME RULES, SOME REGULATIONS, SOME ORDINANCE, SOME DOCTRINE TO, UH, WAYS BY WHICH IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS AREA MAINTAINED. 
          UH, WE'VE JUST, UH, UH, AS A RESULT OF OUR LAST BOND PROGRAM, $25 MILLION, $35 MILLION IS GOING TO BE ALLOCATED TO THAT AREA FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE, UH, IN, IN THE AREA. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TIME, VERY IMPORTANT TIME FOR US, UH, TO TRY AND ALSO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO PURPOSELY TAKE CARE OF THE TRASH AND DEBRIS IT, UH, IN, IN THAT AREA. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'M WILLING TO, UH, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OF ME, AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE WILL, AS YOU SAY, MY HOPES, DREAMS, AND DESIRES WILL BE MET THIS MORNING. 
          . 
          PERFECT. 
          OH YEAH, GO AHEAD, JOHN. 
          UM, AS COUNCILMAN MOORE ALLUDED TO, UH, WE VISITED AFTER YOUR, AFTER YOUR MEETING WITH, UM, UH, THE COUNCILWOMAN FROM DALLAS. 
          AND, UM, I CONNECTED WITH THE DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES, SARAH STANDIFER. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AND, AND REALLY THE FOCUS OF THOSE EFFORTS AS, AS THE COUNCILWOMAN FROM DALLAS ALLUDED TO, THAT THEY HAVE RESOURCES THAT CAN HELP US OUT WITH THIS. 
          SO, UH, IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT AND MONEY, UH, THEY DO ALLOCATE RESOURCES TO HELPING CLEAN UP WHITE ROCK LAKE AND OTHER, UM, OTHER WATER UTILITY AND WATER SOURCES THAT THEY HAVE, INCLUDING LAKE RAY HUBBARD. 
          AND SO, UM, WE'RE WORKING, OUR STAFFS ARE WORKING THROUGH SOME, UH, LOGISTICS ON WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, WHAT THAT PARTNERSHIP MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, AND THE, UH, ON THE CITY SIDE OF, ON OUR SIDE OF THE LEDGER, UH, COUNSELING, THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, WHICH STARTS NEXT WEEK,  GOOD OCTOBER 1ST VOLUNTEER. 
          UM, WE INCLUDED ANTICIPATING SOME, UH, WE ALWAYS NEED RESOURCES IF WE'RE GONNA TACKLE SOMETHING. 
          UH, SO WE INCLUDED IN TIF TWO, WHICH COVERS, UH, THE BASS PRO AREA, LAKE RAY, HUBBARD, ET CETERA, UH, INCLUDED, UH, $60,000 FOR WHATEVER IT'S WHATEVER'S NEEDED IN TERMS OF CLEANUP AROUND THE LAKE. 
          AND SO WE HAVE SOME INTERNAL RESOURCES, SOME PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FOR THE DOOR YOU OPENED, UH, WITH DALLAS. 
          AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT GETS US AT LEAST FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD THAN WE HAVE BEEN BEFORE. 
          RELYING MOSTLY ON VOLUNTEER EFFORTS AND, UH, AND, UM, WHATEVER WE CAN PIECE TOGETHER TO HELP MAKE THAT WORK. 
          SO I, I WANTED TO SHARE THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, WHILE WE ARE ON THE TOPIC, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE TRI-CITY CLEANUP IS HAPPENING OCTOBER 11TH FROM 8:00 AM TO NOON. 
          YOU CAN GO TO VOLUNTEER GARLAND.ORG AND SIGN UP TO BE A PART OF THAT. 
          THEY'RE MEETING AT HELLO STRINE EVENT CENTER. 
          AND THIS IS WITH OUR VOLUNTEER GROUP. 
          AND, UH, KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL. 
          SO HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO OUT AND HELP CLEAN UP SOME LITTER AND WEAR, WEAR SOME GOOD BOOTS. 
          'CAUSE IT GETS A LITTLE MESSY OUT THERE. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE STAFF, UM, HERE WITH US THAT CAN HELP ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MAYBE? SURE. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, SO, AND I, I DON'T KNOW ACTUALLY THE BEST STAFF PERSON THAT MIGHT BE, UM, ON PAR WITH THIS, BUT, UM, ONE THING THAT I'VE, I'VE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH AS FAR AS, UM, THE, THE LAKE GOES AND, UM, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REBUILDING LIKE DOCKS AND THE BOARDWALK AND ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          AND, UM, OUT, IT USED TO BE TEXAS LANDING CATTLE AND THEN IT WAS TLC ON THE LAKE. 
          NOW IT'S VIA, VIA . 
          YES. 
          WHICH IS BEST FOOD EVER. 
          UM, SO THERE USED TO BE A DOCK OUT THERE, WHICH THEY'VE HAD TO REMOVE BECAUSE OF JUST WEAR AND TEAR. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SEA WALL. 
          AND SO A SEA WALL IS CRITICAL IN HELPING GET SOME OF THAT, UM, THE, THE WAVES AWAY FROM BRUSHING ALL OR GETTING ALL THAT STUFF ON SHORE. 
          UM, AND I, I THINK A LOT OF THE DOCKS HAVE HAD TO BE TAKEN OUT BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          'CAUSE THE WAVES ARE JUST TOO HARD ON, ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE. 
          SO I WAS CURIOUS, HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE POTENTIAL OF CREATING A SEAWALL SO THAT IT CAN HELP CUT BACK SOME OF THAT POLLUTION LITTER THAT'S GETTING 
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BROUGHT UP ONTO THE SHORE? SURE, I CAN ANSWER THAT. 
          UM, SO AS PART OF THE BOND PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED, THERE'S THE FUNDS THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN MOORE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE BOARDWALK AS PART OF THE BOARDWALK WE'RE CONTEMPLATING, UM, UH, TRYING TO ADD SOME COURTESY DOCS BACK. 
          AND WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS WITH THE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE, AND WE'VE KIND OF ESTABLISHED THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A LARGE NUMBER. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE JUST KIND OF A MODEST COURTESY AMOUNT. 
          SO IT ANYWHERE FROM SIX TO 12, DEPENDING ON THE BUDGET AS PART OF THE, OF ADDING BOAT DOCKS TO THAT. 
          SO IMAGINE THAT THE, THE, THE TRAIL ITSELF WILL BE SUSPENDED OVER THE LAKE IN SOME AREAS, AND IT WILL BE ADJACENT TO THE LAND ANOTHER. 
          SO WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO THE LAND WILL NEED A SEA WALL. 
          AND THEN OVER WHERE THE, WHERE THE, UH, BOAT DOCKS WILL BE, THE WAY THAT IT'S ORIENTED THERE, IT TAKES IT'S ALMOST A TWO AND A HALF MILE FETCH OF WINDS THAT BLOW THROUGH THERE. 
          SO YOU WOULD PUT THE, A BRAKE WALL ON THE BACKSIDE OF, OF WHERE THOSE COURTESY DOCKS ARE, AND THEN THOSE WOULD BE ON THE INSIDE. 
          SO AS PART OF THE RFQ THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING CRAFTED RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL HIT THE STREET SOON, UM, THE CONSULTANTS WILL HAVE TO DO A, A BATHYMETRIC SURVEY, ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT WILL TELL US HOW BIG THE WAVES ARE. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WIND SPEED THAT GOES ACROSS IT. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF THAT DESIGN. 
          SO THERE'LL BE SOME, THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT ALREADY HAVE A SEA WALL, WHICH IS THE, THE SHORELINE EROSION PROTECTION BEHIND BASS PRO. 
          AND IT GOES DOWN QUITE A WAYS AND THEN IT DISAPPEARS. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME ON THE JOHN PAUL JONES SIDE. 
          UM, SO AS PART OF THAT SCOPE, THEY WILL STUDY ALL THAT AND DETERMINE WHAT NEEDS TO BE, WHAT TECHNIQUE FOR, FOR THAT ISSUE. 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU COUNSEL. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES. 
          UM, QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HAVE WE HAD ANY PRIOR AGREEMENTS WITH DALLAS? I MEAN DALLAS HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WATER BEFORE, SO, UH, WHY? I, I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHY, WHY IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG TO GET SOMETHING GOING. 
          AND ED REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GETTING ON THIS 'CAUSE THIS SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED 70 YEARS AGO. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND THEN HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE, UH, OTHER AGREEMENTS, UH, AGREEMENTS THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST ACROSS THE WAY ON ROCK WALL, WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT THEY HAVE WITH DALLAS FOR MAINTENANCE AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE WATER CLEAN, KEEPING THE SHORES CLEAN. 
          UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE, I MEAN, REALLY IT'S JUST DALLAS IS THE ONLY CITY WE WOULD HAVE THAT WOULD HAVE OTHER RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR WATER. 
          THERE'S NOTHING, I CAN ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT, IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          SO I, SO HAVING WORKED ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, THE, THE ONLY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE, THE LAKE CITIES IS THE, IS THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. 
          AND, AND I'LL, I'LL MAKE IT VERY BRIEF, AS PART OF THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, IT HAS A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS, CITY OF GARLAND, OR ALL THE OTHER CITIES MUTUALLY AGREE THAT TRASH IS A PROBLEM AND WILL MUTUALLY WORK TOWARDS A SOLUTION. 
          UM, HAVING BEEN IN THIS AREA QUITE SOME TIME, I'VE YET TO RECEIVE THE MUTUAL PORTION OF THE RESPONSIBILITY. 
          AND I THINK THAT, AND A, A, A GREAT DEAL OF CREDIT GOES TO COUNCILMAN MOORE. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT LEVEL OF COMMITMENT, UM, IN THAT REGARD TO DEAL WITH IT. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A TRUE MUTUAL COMMITMENT, BOTH FROM A FUNDING ISSUE AND WHERE THEY HAVE SOME FUNDS, WE HAVE SOME FUNDS, UM, WE'RE GONNA IDENTIFY CONTRACTORS THAT CAN HANDLE, THIS IS NOT STANDARD WORK TO BE ABLE TO GO AND DO THE TYPE OF WORK THAT IS NEEDED, PARTICULARLY AT JOHN PAUL JONES, WHERE, UM, IT IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DEAD TIMBER THAT COLLECTS RIGHT THERE. 
          AND SO IT REQUIRES SPECIAL EQUIPMENT TO GET IT OUT OF THERE. 
          THE, THE BULK OF THE LAKE IS, IS THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE WITH TYPICAL METHODS, PICKING UP, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SHORE, PICKING UP FROM A BARGE. 
          WE'LL ALSO PARTNER WITH, UM, OUR VOLUNTEER GROUPS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THEN SUPPLEMENT, USE THAT TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO DO WITH THE CONTRACTORS. 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          SO ARE WE AWARE OF ANY OTHER, OKAY, SO THERE'S A MUTUAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, BUT HAS, DOES DALLAS ACTUALLY PARTNER WITH ANY OTHER CITIES ON THE OTHER SIDE OR ANYTHING? NO, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND DID NOT EXPERIENCE THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POND. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          SO THE ONLY AGREEMENT IS THE, THE MUTUAL AID INTERLOCAL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN NOTHING SPECIFIC IN THAT AND NOTHING REALLY GOING ELSE ON WITH ANYONE ELSE. 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          KUDOS TO YOU, ED, FOR GETTING THIS THING MOVING THEN. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANDY, HAVE WE LOOKED INTO ANY KIND OF, UM, FLOATING LITTER TRAPS? LIKE THERE'S, UM, BAND LOG IS ONE THAT MAYBE THE FE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT IS, BUT I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO YES, WE HAVE. 
          UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF THOSE TRAPS, THE ONES I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TYPICALLY ARE SET UP, UM, WHERE THERE'S OUTFLOWS COMING INTO THE LAKE AND IT'LL TRAP IT. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BARGE THAT COMES AND COLLECTS IT AND, AND TAKES IT AWAY. 
          THERE'S ALSO OTHER, UH, MACHINERY, UM, 
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OUT THERE THAT ARE BARGES THAT HAVE BIG SCOOPS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEY'LL COLLECT, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY THAT ARE ON THE LAKES OF THAT SCALE. 
          THEY'RE QUITE EXPENSIVE. 
          UM, AND THEY REQUIRE SPECIAL EQUIPMENT TO, I KNOW FOR IN PARTICULAR, I HEARD YOU, WELL, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN THERE IN ETTE, UM, WHEN THE CREEK DUMPS OUT ON THEIR SIDE, THERE WAS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TRASH THERE. 
          AND SOME OF IT WAS MADE WORSE BY THE SILTATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO WHAT WAS, HOW THEY TOOK CARE OF THAT MILLER BRIDGE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE SAME EFFORTS AS IT'S HARD TO ACCESS THAT AREA WITH HEAVY EQUIPMENT. 
          SO YOU'RE RELYING ON STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE, THE SPECIALIZED TRAINING TO GET OUT THERE OR BE ABLE TO USE THAT HEAVY EQUIPMENT. 
          AND SO IT'S JUST, IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND SO FINDING WAYS TO COLLECT THE LITTER FROM THE TRIBUTARIES BEFORE IT GETS TO THE LAKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TRY AND, AND FIGURE OUT. 
          AND THERE'S DIFFERENT FLOATING MECHANISMS THAT YOU CAN PUT IN CREEKS. 
          BUT AGAIN, GETTING ACCESS TO THOSE AND GETTING IT OUT SOMETIMES REQUIRES THE RIGHT TRAIN STAFF AND AND EQUIPMENT TO DO THAT. 
          'CAUSE IT'S ALSO HEAVY. 
          SO, AND, AND LIKE, IF I COULD ADD ON A SMALLER SCALE, A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL HAVE STORM DRAINS THAT DUMP DIRECT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT CREEK CHANNELS AND THEN YOU'VE GOT STORM DRAINS THAT DUMP DIRECTLY IN. 
          AND, AND I'VE UTILIZED IN THE PAST TO SOME DEGREE OF SUCCESS, BUT IT ENDED UP BEING, UM, DIFFICULT TO, TO, TO KEEP DOING IS THERE'S STORMCEPTORS THAT GO, RIGHT, RIGHT BEFORE THEY DUMP OUT IS WHERE IT'S BASICALLY A GIANT FILTER LIKE YOU HAVE IN A POOL WHERE IT CATCHES ALL THE TRASH. 
          IT REQUIRES HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO COME TAKE IT OUT EVERY TIME THERE'S A RAIN TO, UM, AND IT, IT WAS SOMEWHAT EFFECTIVE, BUT NOT, VERSUS THE EFFORT THAT IT TOOK TO, TO MANAGE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UM, MAYBE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE PREVENT IT FROM GETTING THAT FAR DOWN. 
          UM, I THINK THAT WE'RE OFF TO A GREAT START AND IT'S DEFINITELY KUDOS TO YOU FOR GETTING THIS ON THE, ON THE AGENDA AND GETTING IT IN THE, THE PUBLIC EYE. 
          UM, IT'S, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK GLITTER IS SOMETHING THAT'S EVER GONNA GET BETTER. 
          UM, IT, IT SEEMS TO JUST CONTINUOUSLY GET WORSE. 
          PEOPLE JUST DON'T REALLY CARE. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN THROWING THINGS OUT OF YOUR, OUT OF YOUR CAR WINDOW. 
          IT'S, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING YOUR TRASH IN THE BINS IN BAGS AND THEN IT BLOWS OUT AND THEN IT, AND IT ALL ENDS UP IN THE WATERWAYS. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN BRAINSTORMING SOME IDEAS ON HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE STOP IT BEFORE IT GETS TO THE LAKE? UM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? EQUIPMENT, FINANCIAL PEOPLE. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE AN AMAZING VOLUNTEER GROUP AND VOLUNTEER GARLAND IS REALLY, REALLY RAMPING UP. 
          AND HOSTLY AND CAITLYN HAVE BEEN DOING PHENOMENAL, UM, WITH THAT. 
          AND SO I KNOW THAT THEY WOULD DEFINITELY BE ON BOARD WITH WHATEVER THEY CAN DO. 
          UM, AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT MIGHT COST A LITTLE BIT MORE INITIALLY TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL TO A MANAGEABLE LEVEL. 
          BUT I THINK IN THE LONG RUN THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WORTH IT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE WE ALL, WE HAVE ALL HEARD ABOUT OUR STORM DRAIN GETTING BLOCKED AND HOUSES GET FLOODED. 
          AND SO I THINK IF, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO PUT SOME MONEY INTO GETTING IT MANAGEABLE NOW TO WHERE WE CAN, IT'S, IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO I THINK IT'S A, A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH IS THE REACTIONARY OF HANGING UP THE LITTER. 
          BUT THE PREVENTION, LIKE YOU'RE MENTIONING, THE VOLUNTEER GARLAND TEAM IS WORKING WITH, UH, STORMWATER EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH ALSO TO HOW DO WE SPREAD THE WORD, HOW DO WE TRAIN THE TRAINERS TO NOT ONLY ACTIVATE THE VOLUNTEERS, BUT UM, TRAIN THE VOLUNTEERS TO TRAIN OTHERS SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE LARGE GROUPS OUT AND, AND HELPING WITH THE CLEANUPS. 
          BUT THEN THE EDUCATIONAL AND PREVENTION SIDE, WORKING WITH BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS AND SCHOOLS JUST TO, TO TRAIN HOW THE, THE WATER SYSTEM WORKS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF PREVENTING THAT CONTINUE TO, NO SMALL FEAT, , NO SMALL FEAT FOR SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          REAL QUICK. 
          SO ANDY REFERRED TO A BARGE, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, I, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT DALLAS WATER UTILITIES HAS THAT THEY USE ON WHITE ROCK LAKE AND OTHER WATER BODIES. 
          UM, IN TALKING TO SARAH, SHE'S OFFERED THAT FOR LAKE RAY HUBBARD. 
          LOGISTICALLY, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S HARD TO GET THERE. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO CHASE DOWN. 
          'CAUSE THE, BUT THEY'VE OFFERED TO ACTUALLY BRING IT OUT HERE AND USE IT. 
          UM, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A LOGISTICAL THING TO GET IT THERE, SO THAT'S GREAT. 
          KEEP CHASING THAT DOWN. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          SO WE KEEP, LET'S LET'S CHASE THAT HARD. 
          I THINK IF THEY'RE WILLING, LET'S DO IT. 
          YOU KNOW, SO WHAT I'M HEARING OUR MARCHING ORDERS ARE IS, IS MAYBE WE TAKE INVENTORY OF WHAT WE ARE DOING, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE EXISTING RESOURCES, AND THEN PUT TOGETHER KIND OF A COMPREHENSIVE 
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PLAN OF WHAT, WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND WHAT IT'S GONNA COST. 
          AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF BALANCE THAT. 
          MAYBE I'M JUST THROWING THIS IN THERE AS WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE. 
          GET A LIST OF ALL THE IDEAS AND APPROACHES AND THEN LOOK AT THE COST AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK. 
          UM, SO WE'LL NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME PROBABLY TO YEAH, TO GATHER THAT UP AND DO SOME RESEARCH AND ENGAGE THE STORM WATER TEAM AND OTHER, OTHER FOLKS. 
          UH, DEFINITELY THE DALLAS, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. 
          SO HOW LONG, HOW LONG DO YOU WANT? A COUPLE, A COUPLE MONTHS, PLEASE. 
          ED, DID YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING? AS I STATED EARLIER, WHEN I SAT HERE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO SIT ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE. 
          THIS IS A GOOD FEELING. 
          , I REALLY, UH, JUST, JUST, JUST LISTENING TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE THIS MORNING. 
          I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO STAFF AS WELL AS COUNSEL FOR THE MATTER BY WHICH YOU HAVE CAPTURED OR CAUGHT ON TO THIS VISION. 
          UH, AND THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY IS. 
          IT'S A VISION. 
          UH, I'VE JUST RECENTLY SAT FOR AN INTERVIEW WITH, UH, A NEW PAPER HERE IN TOWN, OR GARLAND GAZETTE I THINK IT IS, AND, UH, WAS ABLE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE THINGS THAT I SEE TAKING PLACE IN SOUTH GARDEN AND HAS THE POTENTIAL AND POSSIBILITY OF TAKING PLACE IN SOUTH GAR. 
          AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRESENTLY LENDS ITSELF TO, I ALWAYS SAY THAT SOUTH GAR, ESPECIALLY THE HARBOR BAY AREA, IS GARLAND'S FINAL FRONTIER, RECOGNIZING AT THIS POINT THAT WE ARE INDEED LANDLOCKED, NO MORE HORIZONTAL, MOSTLY VERTICAL, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE WATER. 
          AND IF WE'RE LOOKING ACROSS THE BAY AT ROULETTE AT, UH, ROCKWALL AND ALL IS TAKING PLACE ON THE PENINSULAS OUT INTO THE WATER IN THOSE AREAS, GARLAND HAS THE POTENTIAL. 
          AND SOUTH GARLAND, ESPECIALLY HARBOR BAY, HAS THE POTENTIAL PRESENT OF BECOMING GARLAND'S NEWEST DESTINATION LOCATION. 
          AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS BE PURPOSEFUL ABOUT IT. 
          AND I JUST, I, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT I'M HEARING HERE THIS MORNING BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SAYING NOW IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO DO THINGS IN THE FUTURE BASED ON A NEEDS BASIS. 
          WE'RE ACTUALLY BEGINNING NOW. 
          WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME THINGS IN WRITING, WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME THINGS ON PAPER, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT. 
          WHAT DOES THAT DO? IT SHOWS US WHAT OUR DIFFICULTIES AND OUR CHALLENGES ARE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT IS THIS IS, IT DOES, IT SHOWS US OUR OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA SAY TO YOU THIS MORNING, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          AND, UH, KIND OF LIKE DOROTHY, RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA CLICK MY HEELS THREE TIMES AND HEAD BACK TO KANSAS . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AWESOME. 
          PERFECT. 
          SO WE HAD, UM, WE WILL GET THEM BACK ON THE SCHEDULE FOR TWO-ISH MONTHS. 
          WOULD THAT PUT THIS IN DECEMBER? SURE. 
          DECEMBER. 
          SO DO WE WANT CHRISTMAS BREAK? DO YOU WANT DECEMBER? OR YOU WANNA DO JANUARY? I'LL LET YOU PICK. 
          YOU TELL ME HOW YOUR SCHEDULE . 
          LET'S SHOOT FOR DECEMBER. 
          AND IF, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH PROGRESS WE MAKE AND, AND, AND THE INFORMATION WE GATHER, LET'S, WE CAN PERFECT. 
          YOU KNOW, ADJUST IT FROM THERE. 
          BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A PRIORITY, SO WE'LL TREAT IT AS SUCH. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND IF I MIGHT TOO, AND I, I LIKE TO SAY THERE ARE, UH, CITY MANAGER WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE. 
          THE PROBLEMS AREA THAT WE HAVE OF, SUCH AS WINDSURF BAY, UH, IS IT WINDS MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          WINDSURF BAY PARK, ALL OF A SUDDEN, WINDSURF BAY PARK, JOHN PAUL PARK, ALL OF THESE COME INTO FOCUS IN THE WAY OF BEING ABLE TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE PRESSURES THAT THOSE CITIZENS HAVE EXPERIENCED ALONG WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          SO, THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          AND I, I THINK THAT BEING PROACTIVE, UM, IN SOMETHING THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULD SEE IS SO, SO MINOR IS LITTER CLEANUP. 
          UM, WHICH I, I FEEL LIKE WE ALL KNOW IT'S, IT'S NOT A MINOR THING, IT'S A BIG THING. 
          BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT REDEVELOPMENT AND REALLY TRYING TO POUR MONEY INTO THAT AREA, NO ONE WANTS TO, NO ONE WANTS TO PUT THEIR OWN MONEY INTO SOMETHING IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S NOT PRETTY. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT US DOING OUR PART AS FAR AS GETTING IT CLEANED UP AND WE'LL SPIT SHINE ON IT, I THINK WILL HELP, UM, GET US SOME GOOD DEVELOPERS AND GET US SOME GOOD PROJECTS GOING DOWN THERE. 
          SO I'M EXCITED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          AND WE WILL SEE YOU BACK IN DECEMBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          Y'ALL ARE AMAZING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I SEE OUR CODE GUY OVER THERE, MR. BRIAN. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BUMP BACK UP TO THREE A, DISCUSS OUTSIDE STORAGE OF TIRES AT BUSINESSES. 
          ALRIGHT, THIS GOOD MORNING. 
          THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE DISCUSSION FROM THE AUGUST 28TH MEETING. 
          UM, THIS ITEM WAS ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE AFTER A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. IT'S SECOND BY MAYOR PROTO ON THE MARCH 3RD WORK SESSION. 
          GOOD MORNING, BRIAN. 
          HOW ARE YOU DOING? GREAT. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'VE GOT IT. 
          WE'VE GOT THE 
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WHOLE CODE TEAM UP HERE. 
          I LOVE IT. 
          ALL MY FAVORITE PEOPLE. 
          , YOU ARE READY. 
          WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO GOOD MORNING ONCE AGAIN. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          UH, SO WE'LL BE DISCUSSING OUTSIDE STORAGE, UH, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO TIRES, UH, WITHIN THE CITY OF GARLAND. 
          UH, SO WE WERE ASKED TO COME BACK. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WHILE WE'RE GETTING THAT LOADED UP, SO IN OUR LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED DIFFERENT RULES OF TEMPORARY VERSUS, UH, LONG-TERM STORAGE. 
          AND SO WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT WE CALL FOR, FOR BREVITY OF FIVE BY FIVE BY FIVE, RIGHT? SO FIVE FEET, FIVE FEET HIGH, AND WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THE STORE AND FOR A MAXIMUM OF FIVE DAYS PER MONTH. 
          SO THOSE ARE OUR, THOSE ARE OUR LIMITATIONS AS FAR AS WHAT CAN BE DONE FOR OUTSIDE STORAGE. 
          NOW, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TIRES, SPECIFICALLY, THIS RELATES TO ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE, INCLUDING ANY MERCHANDISE, ANY MATERIALS THAT'S SET FOR TEMPORARY DISPLAY. 
          AND SO AS WE WERE ASKED TO COME BACK, WE REACHED OUT TO A FEW TIRE, UH, BUSINESSES, TIRE OWNERS AND OPERATORS TO COME BACK AND GIVE A PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THEIR, UH, WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, AND TO SEE IF THIS BODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM DURING THIS TIME. 
          SO, UH, WE REACHED OUT, WE HAD SEVERAL THAT SHOWED UP TODAY TO GIVE THEIR, LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD AND GIVE THEIR OPINIONS. 
          PERFECT. 
          UH, SO WE'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OTHER THAN WE'RE READY TO, UH, PROCEED TO ENFORCE, UH, WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE BODY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THIS WILL BE A VERY, BECAUSE WE'VE IDENTIFIED 56 TOTAL, UH, TIRE SHOPS. 
          HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME THAT EXCLUDE, SOME THAT ARE AUTO REPAIR SHOPS THAT MAY SELL TIRES AS WELL. 
          SO THAT NUMBER COULD INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY, SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          UH, WE DON'T KNOW QUITE HOW HIGH, BUT WE DO HAVE A, WE DO SUSPECT THAT IT WILL INCREASE BY QUITE A FEW. 
          SO THAT 56 NUMBER IS JUST TIRES TIRE SPECIFIC, NOT INCLUDING AUTO SHOPS THAT MAY DO TIRES. 
          THAT'S CORRECT, YES. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I SEE QUITE A FEW OF, UM, YOU GENTLEMEN OVER THERE ON MY RIGHT. 
          UM, IS ANYONE INTERESTED IN COMING IN, UH, CHATTING WITH US PLEASE? ANYONE? YOU'RE NOT IN TROUBLE, I PROMISE. 
           ON THIS SIDE, NOT TROUBLE. 
          WE, WE WON'T THROW TOMATOES AT YOU OR ANYTHING. 
          CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHAT SHOP YOU'RE AT? MY NAME IS JASON SQUIRE. 
          UM, I'M THE STORE MANAGER AT FIRESTONE. 
          56 60 LEVON DRIVE. 
          PERFECT, JASON. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST A, A COUPLE OF, I'M GONNA ASK YOU A COUPLE EASY ONES. 
          UM, I, I, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, UM, OUR GUYS HAVE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT KIND OF WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR GOALS AND MISSIONS AND ASPIRATIONS ARE, UM, FOR HAVING YOU HERE IN THIS OVERALL TOPIC. 
          KIND OF THE FIRST THAT I'VE HEARD OF IT, I GOT A LETTER IN THE MAIL AND FIGURED, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND BE ABLE TO VOICE OUR OPINION AND, AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS EXPECT FROM US SO THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME SIDE PER, I I THINK WE ARE, WE ARE ON PAR RIGHT THERE. 
          UM, SO BASED ON THE LETTER THAT YOU GOT, UM, DO YOU WANNA GIVE ME ANY OF YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS, UM, FROM, FROM WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU DO KNOW AT THIS POINT? UH, I REALLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. 
          I KNOW WE'RE HERE ABOUT OUTSIDE TIRE STORAGE AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL THAT I KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, THE, THE LETTER WAS PRETTY VAGUE. 
          IT JUST SAID SHOW UP IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          SO . 
          WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL SHOWING UP. 
          UM, I THINK THAT, UM, TIRES HAVE BEEN A HOT TOPIC, UM, IN GARLAND FOR NUMEROUS REASONS OVER THE LAST, WHAT YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, UM, BETWEEN ILLEGAL DUMPING OF TIRES AND, UM, THE NUMBER OF TIRE SHOPS AND THE QUALITY OF TIRE SHOPS AND HOW THEY'RE KEEPING THEIR SHOPS LOOKING. 
          UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF ON A MISSION REALLY JUST TO CLEAN UP THE CITY. 
          UM, NOW WE, WE LOVE OUR BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE. 
          WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST QUALITY APPEARANCE FOR OUR CITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT WE'VE ALL DRIVE DROVE DRIVEN, UH, SORRY, I'M MEDICATED. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, WE'VE ALL DROVE PAST, UM, A FIRESTONE THAT I'VE NEVER DROVE PAST A FIRESTONE AND THOUGHT LIKE, 
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OH MY GOSH, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? UM, BUT THEN THERE'S PLENTY OF TIRE SHOPS THAT WE DRIVE PAST AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, OKAY. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE A LANDFILL. 
          SO, UM, I, THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR GOAL IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OWN ORDINANCES AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TIRE SHOPS KNOW WHAT OUR ORDINANCES ARE, WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE. 
          UM, THANK YOU BRIAN. 
          THERE'S A PRIME EXAMPLE OF, UM, ONE OF THOSE, UH, WHAT IN THE, UM, QUINLAN IS GOING ON THERE. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, BUT ALSO WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE DON'T WORK AT A TIRE SHOP, RIGHT? SO I, I LIVE IN GARLAND, SO I FREQUENT TIRE SHOPS, UH, 'CAUSE I FIND EVERY NAIL IN THE ROAD, BUT I DON'T WORK THERE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, WHAT ARE LOGICAL, REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE WAY THE TIRES KIND OF GO, AT LEAST FOR FIRESTONE. 
          I HAVEN'T REALLY WORKED FOR TOO MANY OTHER SHOPS HERE IN TEXAS, BUT IT'S ALL BEEN KIND OF UNIFORM THROUGHOUT EVERY STATE. 
          UM, WE GET A CAR IN, SAY WE SELL FOUR TIRES. 
          THOSE TIRES, AS SOON AS THEY'RE TAKEN OFF THE CAR, THEY NO LONGER BELONG TO FIRESTONE. 
          THERE'S AN OUTSIDE COMPANY THAT BUYS THAT. 
          WELL, WE PAY THEM TO TAKE OUR TIRE. 
          UM, AT THAT POINT, ONCE IT'S REMOVED, IT'S NO LONGER OURS. 
          IT GOES INTO THE POSSESSION OF, WE USE LIBERTY TIRE, THEY PROVIDE A STORAGE UNIT IN THE BACK. 
          UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP OUR USED TIRES. 
          AND THEN THEY COME ONCE A WEEK, PICK UP WHATEVER WE HAVE AND WE PAY THEM TO TAKE IT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS THAT I'VE RAN INTO IN MULTIPLE FIRESTONES IS TO BE IN CITY COORDINATES AND ORDINANCE THE LAWS AND ALL THAT. 
          OUR TIRE BIN NEEDS TO BE KEPT BACK BY THE GARBAGE CAN, WHICH IS REALLY FAR AWAY. 
          AND THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE TIRED. 
          YOU GUYS ARE TIRED, THEY WANT TO GO HOME. 
          IT'S EASIER TO JUST STACK THEM ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND HEY, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT TOMORROW. 
          PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT WAY, BUT THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENS. 
          THAT'S THAT, THAT, THAT'S JUST THE EVERYDAY DEAL. 
          UM, WE, WE TRY TO GO AGAINST THAT. 
          ONE THING THAT WE HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH RECENTLY IS WE'RE SELLING MORE TIRES THAN WE CAN PUT IN OUR BIN. 
          WHEN WE TRY TO UP TO, HEY, CAN YOU COME PICK UP MORE OFTEN? WE RUN INTO THE HOLE, WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT WE DON'T GET 'EM PICKED UP TOO OFTEN. 
          SO IN THOSE SENSES, WE RUN INTO THE PROBLEM OF, WELL, WHERE DO WE KEEP 'EM? NOW, I, I CAN'T KEEP 'EM INSIDE BECAUSE NOW I'M LOSING BUSINESS. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE STACKING 'EM IN THE BACK, AGAINST THE BACK WALL OUT OF PUBLIC VIEW. 
          IF YOU DON'T DRIVE TO THE BACK OF THE STORE, YOU'D NEVER KNOW THAT WE HAVE TIRES BACK THERE. 
          UM, PROBLEM WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS THOSE ARE BEING STOLEN NOW, SO WE DO NEED TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. 
          I DO AGREE, UH, KEEPING 'EM OUT ISN'T WORKING FOR THE LOOK OF THE CITY AND IT ALSO DOESN'T HELP FOR THE THEFT. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS REALLY GOOD INFORMATION. 
          HOW OFTEN DO THEY, OR IN THEORY, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO PICK UP OUT OF YOUR ONCE A WEEK? SO MY SHOP IS SCHEDULED EVERY TUESDAY. 
          SOMETIMES I SHOW UP ON TUESDAY. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S THURSDAY. 
          BUT THEY, THEY ARE THERE ONCE A WEEK AND THEY USUALLY TAKE ABOUT A HUNDRED TO 150 TIRES. 
          WOW. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNSEL, UM, ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, AT THIS POINT? WELL, I, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING JASON. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, FIRESTONE'S A BIG COMPANY AND IT'S A, A DIFFERENT BUDGET SITUATIONS THAN SOME SMALLER TIRE SHOPS. 
          I'D LIKE TO NOTE IF WE HAVE REPRESENTATION FOR ANY SMALLER, LIKE MOM AND POP STYLE TIRE SHOPS, WOULD ONE OF Y'ALL MIND HAVE COMING UP AND TALKING AS WELL AND, AND, UH, CODE STAFF IF, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING AS WELL, I'D, I'D APPRECIATE YOU BEING A PART OF COMMUNICATION AS WELL. 
          HOW ARE YOU DOING SIR? WHAT'S YOUR NAME? RICK? MY NAME'S CARL ZUR. 
          AND, AND WHERE, WHERE DO YOU, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? I'M THE, I'M ORIGINALLY FROM, UH, UA E UNITED ARAB EMIRATES. 
          YOUR, YOUR TIRE SHOP. 
          I RUN THE BJ TIRE CENTER, BJ TIRE CENTER, WALNUT STREET, GARLAND, TEXAS, WALNUT STREET. 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING TODAY. 
          HOW ABOUT YOU MA'AM? I'M KATHY TON. 
          MY, I'M LES TIRE AT 1 0 8 LEVON DRIVE IN GARLAND. 
          AWESOME. 
          I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE PAYLOAD. 
          . 
          . 
          AWESOME. 
          REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING TODAY TOO, KATHY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH JASON, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU GUYS COULD TALK ABOUT? SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT IT IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WE SIT HERE ON THIS SIDE OF THIS TABLE AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY MAINTAINING THE CITY, RIGHT. 
          WHETHER IT BE AESTHETICS, WHETHER IT BE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHATEVER THAT IS. 
          HOWEVER, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO GET ELECTED. 
          OKAY? WE ARE NOT EXPERTS. 
          , , I HAVE, I HAVE NO TRAINING IN, IN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS TO ATTIRE AFTER IT, AFTER IT, YOU KNOW, GETS THE NAIL PULLED OUT OF IT AND COMES OFF OF MY CAR. 
          SO THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE INVITED Y'ALL HERE TODAY SO WE CAN GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE. 
          'CAUSE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO PROVIDE 
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A BALANCE, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T DO US ANY GOOD TO PASS ORDINANCES IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOU GUYS TO LIVE UP TO THOSE EXPECTATIONS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE SO WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT ARE GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. 
          AND I KNOW, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THAT PICTURE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S IN GARLAND, BUT WE DO HAVE TIRE SHOPS IN GARLAND THAT LOOK LIKE THAT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, RIGHT? WE WANT OUR CITY TO BE PRETTY, WE WANT OUR CITY TO BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND, AND, YOU KNOW, FEEL SAFE AND, AND YOU KNOW, AS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU GUYS COULD TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, SO WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR TIRE STORAGE THAT AT YOUR SHOPS AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU FEEL AS FAR AS CITY ORDINANCES GO THAT ARE ONEROUS AND YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T LIVE UP TO OR WHAT WE COULD DO TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE, MAKE THE LOOK OF THE ENTIRE STORAGE BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO I'LL LET Y'ALL HAVE THE FLOOR. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE APPRECIATE THIS MEETING. 
          THIS ACTUALLY THIS FIRST TIME FOR ME TO ATTEND ANY MEETING REALLY. 
          AND I JUST GET COULD YOU MOVE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? I'M SORRY. 
          THIS IS MY FIRST TIME TO ATTEND UH, THESE KIND OF MEETINGS. 
          I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          UH, I UNDERSTAND, UH, SOMETIME SOME PEOPLE, SOME BUSINESS, THEY ARE CARELESS AND THEY'RE ABUSING REALLY EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING. 
          UH, IN MY SCENARIO, MY CASE, UH, MY SHOP LITTLE BIT SMALL AND THE TIRE USUALLY TAKE UH, BIG SPACE AND I TAKE SOME TIRE, PUT IT IN THE MORNING AROUND THE BUILDING. 
          WE STORE IT IN VERY, VERY NICE LOOKING WAY. 
          AND THE END OF THE DAY WE PUT IT INSIDE. 
          WE HAVE KIND OF TRAILER STORAGE TO KEEP ALL THE TRASH TIRES OR WHATEVER LIT FROM THE CUSTOMER IN THE BACK. 
          ACTUALLY WE HAVE PROBLEM BECAUSE UH, SOME COMPANIES THEY CHARGE FOR DISPOSAL FEES AND THEY DUMP TIRES IN THE FRONT OF THE SHOP. 
          I HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE JUST I GONNA PAY FOR IT WITH IT AND GIVE IT TO SOME COMPANY TO PICK IT UP. 
          IT'S, I MEAN BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THEY THINK, I DUNNO WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS, THEY THINK THEY'RE GONNA SAVE A FEW, YOU KNOW, DOLLARS FOR EACH TIRE INSTEAD OF GOING TO RECYCLING. 
          THEY SAY THEY WILL KEEP IT AND UH, IS VERY ESSENTIAL, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE EVERYTHING LOOKING NICE, ORGANIZED. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          MY PROBLEM IS SOME TIRES, I HAVE TO PUT IT OUTSIDE BECAUSE THE SPACE WON'T HELP ME REALLY 'CAUSE I HAVE THREE P OLD BUILDING AND UH, WHEN I PUT THE CAR INSIDE, I TRY TO WORK IN IT. 
          I CAN'T REALLY, AND THE TIRE IS NOT LIKE SMALL ITEM. 
          IT'S KIND OF LITTLE BIG ITEM. 
          I DUNNO IF UH, YOU PUT IN CONSIDERATION IS UH, IF EVERYTHING'S FINE, ORGANIZED, NICE LOOKING, DOESN'T BOTHER THE SCENE OF THE CITY OR DRIVEWAY. 
          IF WE HAVE SOME TIRE AROUND THE BUILDING DURING THE DAY AND NO JOINT TIRE THROWN IN THE BACK ORGANIZED, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IDEA. 
          ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THE SPACE WON'T HELP US TO COMMITT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MANY TIRES, YOU KNOW. 
          AND THE SAME AS THE EVIL GENTLEMAN HE SAID ABOUT THE SCRUB TIRES. 
          THEY COMES AVERAGE ONCE A WEEK. 
          MY SCHEDULE TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY DEPENDS SOMETIME ONE DAY LATE OR ONE DAY EARLY AND THEY PICK UP THE SCRUB. 
          AND UH, MY PROBLEM IS I GET AT LEAST 50 TO 60 TIRES MINIMUM THEY DUMP IN FRONT OF MY SHOP FROM SOMEBODY. 
          I DUNNO WHO'S THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART THE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          OKAY. 
          IS IT, DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW, IS THAT A PROBLEM WITH MOST TIRE SHOPS OR IN CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN OR, I DUNNO. 
          I MEAN, UH, 'CAUSE THE PEOPLE, THEY DON'T WANNA TAKE IT TO PAY TO GET IT RECYCLED OR WHATEVER, SO THEY JUST DUMP IT. 
          THEY USED OIL. 
          IT'S OCCURRENCE THAT'S DROPPED OFF. 
          THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE TO PAY TO RECYCLE OUR TIRES. 
          SO WE PAY A COMPANY TO PICK 'EM UP AND THEN THEY SELL THE PRODUCT THAT THEY MAKE. 
          GREAT BUSINESS PLAN. 
          DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WORKED IT OUT, BUT THEY, THEY'RE ON IT. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE LIKE FIRESTONE, WE, WE HAVE MORE MONEY THAN A LOT OF THESE OTHER SHOPS ARE BLESSED WITH. 
          AND SO IN THAT SENSE WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          BUT FOR THESE SMALLER MOM AND POP SHOPS, YEAH, I MEAN IT, IT'S EXPENSIVE. 
          EACH TIRE'S FOUR OR $5 AND WHEN YOU HAVE 50 TIRES DROPPED OFF EACH WEEK THAT YOU DIDN'T SELL SO YOU DIDN'T PLAN AND BUDGET THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT ADDS UP. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. 
          SO WHEN YOU GUYS GET THOSE ILLEGAL DUMP TIRES, UH, ARE YOU MAKING A POLICE REPORT? DO YOU CALL THOSE IN? HOW DO YOU TYPICALLY HANDLE THAT WHEN IT HAPPENS? BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I ASK YOU BECAUSE IN SOME, SOME REGULATIONS REQUIRE THOSE TIRES TO BE MARKED FOR THAT, FOR THAT VERY REASON, RIGHT? SO IT'S EASY TO TAKE THE MONEY TO FOR THE DISPOSAL AND THEN GO DUMP IT ILLEGALLY. 
          SO IN 
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SOME PLACES THEY ARE MARKED WITH SOME TYPE OF IDENTIFIERS. 
          SO JUST CURIOUS IF YOU GUYS CALLED THAT IN TO, UH, TO PD. 
          I'VE NEVER CALLED THAT IN MYSELF PERSONALLY. 
          I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO. 
          I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CALL THAT IN FILE A REPORT AND WE COULD TAKE SOME PICTURES, GET SOME EVIDENCE AND SEE CAN WE TRACE THOSE BACK AND TRY TO ELIMINATE THAT, THAT PRACTICE AND IF ANYONE HAS CAMERAS OUTSIDE OF YOUR SHOP. 
          YES. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER, ANOTHER BENEFICIAL THING. 
          SO THAT WAY, 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE MORE RESPONSIBLE SHOP PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND ARE HAVING PAYING FOR SOMEONE TO PICK IT UP. 
          AND THERE'S PROBABLY A SMALL HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE. 
          AND SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, RUINING IT FOR EVERYONE ELSE. 
          AND SO I, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THOSE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. 
          'CAUSE THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT IF THEY CAN'T FIND A SHOP TO DUMP AT 'EM IN FRONT OF, THEY'RE DUMPING 'EM ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          UM, JUST OFF OF THE SERVICE ROAD OF ONE 90. 
          THERE WAS LIKE 15 TIRES JUST PILED UP IN A CONSTRUCTION ZONE THE OTHER DAY. 
          UM, THEY'RE DUMPING THEM IN OUR CREEKS. 
          AND THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER THING TOO THOUGH. 
          SO SAY WE DO BRING THIS UP TO THE POLICE AND THE POLICE START DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, WHERE ARE THOSE TIRES GONNA END UP? SO THEY'RE GONNA END UP IN THE CREEKS AND IN THE LAKES AND EVERYWHERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TAKE 'EM TO US NOW. 
          SURE. 
          AND AND YEAH, IT STINKS ON OUR SIDE, BUT TO ME INVOLVING THE POLICE IN THAT SITUATION IS GONNA MAKE IT WORSE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT, THAT'S A VERY VALID POINT. 
          UM, I THINK THAT ON THE CITY STANDPOINT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BRAINSTORM. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I, I WOULD HATE TO SAY LIKE WELL WE JUST DON'T HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I GET IT. 
          THERE HAS TO BE THAT, THAT BALANCE OF ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          TO ME THE BEST THING IS WE HAVE A WAY OF RECYCLING. 
          SURE. 
          WHEREAS THE CITY MIGHT NOT HAVE A WAY OF DOING THAT. 
          WE HAVE CONTRACTS IN PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT COSTS US EXTRA, BUT IT DOES KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN. 
          SURE. 
          SURE. 
          AND AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, BEFORE WE DID ANY KIND OF ENFORCEMENT OR TRYING TO CATCH THE BAD GUY, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A WHAT WHAT NEXT PLAN, RIGHT? SO I KNOW LIKE CURRENTLY WE DO, UM, WE DO RECYCLE TIRES, UM, A COUPLE OF, I THINK MAYBE ONCE A QUARTER, UM, WITH THE CITY AND IT'S AIMED FOR INDIVIDUALS. 
          I THINK THERE'S LIKE A LIMIT OF FOUR TIRES PER PERSON OR SOMETHING. 
          BUT MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT AVENUES, LIKE HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE TRY TO OFFSET THAT? UM, AND IF WE CAN PIN IT ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S FOUR SHOPS THAT ARE DUMPING THEIR TIRES BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, FIRESTONE IS IN A FINANCIAL SPOT WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN AFFORD TO PAY THE EXTRA RECYCLING WHERE THIS GENTLEMAN, HE'S, HE'S A ONE STOP SHOP, YOU KNOW? AND SO I I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOMEONE ELSE DUMPING AT HIS SHOP BE WHAT TAKES HIS SHOP DOWN. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          THAT'S NOT FAIR. 
          AND SO IF WE CAN NARROW IT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, A, A GROUP OF SHOPS THAT ARE DOING THIS, I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM SHUTTING THEM DOWN JUST COMPLETELY. 
          LIKE IF YOU CAN'T, IF YOU CAN'T BE A GOOD STEWARD IN THE CITY, THEN WE'RE NOT INTERESTED. 
          BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO HAVE A BACKUP PLAN. 
          MAYBE PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE A PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY MM-HMM . 
          TO WHERE THE TIRE SHOPS CAN, THEY'RE ALLOTTED SO MANY EVERY SO OFTEN TO TURN OVER TO THE CITY TO HAVE RECYCLED. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST, JUST CAN I SAY SOMETHING? THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS IS ACTUALLY, THIS IS A GREAT REASON TO HAVE YOU GUYS HERE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF. 
          YEP. 
          SO, BUT WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS A, THIS IS NOW, THIS IS A DIFFERENT ITEM TO DISCUSS OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA HERE. 
          SO I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS WE SHOULD, UM, HAVE THE CITY DECIDE WHAT DEPARTMENTS CAN LOOK AT THIS AND SEE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY DO A SCOPE OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THIS PROBLEM. 
          WHETHER IT BE SOMETHING LIKE JASON SUGGESTED, WHICH WAS KIND OF IN MY HEAD TOO, RIGHT? MAYBE HAVE SOME WAY TO HAVE THE CITY ASSIST WITH THIS, WITH THIS AS WELL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GET, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GET POLICE INVOLVED ON IT, BUT DEFINITELY GET, GET CODE, GET UH, SANITATION, GET SOME DEPARTMENTS TO PUT THEIR HEADS TOGETHER, MAKE THEM AWARE OF THIS AND SEE IF THERE'S A, A SOLUTION WE CAN HAVE BECAUSE THIS WOULD, BECAUSE IF YOU GUYS ARE GETTING MORE TIRES, USED TIRES TO STORE THAN YOU HAVE CAPACITY FOR, THEN THAT CREATES A PROBLEM. 
          AND SO IF WE CAN REDUCE THAT WITH THE, THE ILLEGAL DUMPING IN FRONT OF YOUR SHOPS, BUT I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT ITEM TO SCOPE. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY PREPARED TO HAVE THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION AND SOLUTION HERE TODAY, . 
          YEAH, NO, AND AND YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          UM, I, IT DEFINITELY 
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WE'VE CREATED ANOTHER ITEM, BUT I I THINK THAT IT, IT ALSO DOES TIE IN BECAUSE LIKE THEY'RE SAYING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE OUTSIDE APPEARANCE, RIGHT? AND I KNOW WHEN BJ BROUGHT THIS, UM, TO COUNCIL, IT WAS STORAGE OVERNIGHT, UM, OF TIRES. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE KIND OF THE ORIGINAL THING WAS GOING. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD A ILLEGAL DUMPING OF TIRES AS A, A TOPIC, UH, PREVIOUSLY THAT I THINK IT JUST KIND OF FIZZLED OFF IN COMMITTEE. 
          BUT, UM, SO I, IT KIND OF, I MEAN WE'RE KIND OF STILL ON TRACK JUST BECAUSE IF PEOPLE ARE DUMPING AFTER HOURS, UM, IT'S STILL, 'CAUSE I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE UNUSUAL FOR SOMEONE TO STACK THEM UP OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT JUST LEAVING THEM SCATTERED THROUGH THE, THE PARKING LOT. 
          SO I, I THINK WE'RE STILL KIND OF ISH ON TRACK, UM, WITH THE OUTSIDE STORAGE APPEARANCE SITUATION. 
          WE JUST UNCOVERED A NEW ASPECT OF IT. 
          SO I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS AS ANOTHER, ANOTHER, UM, TOPIC AS FAR AS BRINGING IT BACK TO THAT ILLEGAL DUMPING. 
          UM, AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN OTHERWISE WITHOUT HAVING YOU GUYS HERE THAT, THAT THAT WAS A PROBLEM. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I'M, I'M NOT DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND THINKING, HUH, I WONDER IF THOSE TIRES WERE, UM, DUMPED THERE BY SOME JERK OR IS THAT REALLY JUST HOW THEY'RE LEAVING? BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST ASSUME THAT THAT'S HOW THE SHOPS ARE, ARE LEAVING OUT AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. 
          AND SO THAT IS FANTASTIC INFORMATION TO KNOW THAT IT IT, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE. 
          SO MAYBE WE, MAYBE WE NEED TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER AND MAKE NOTES OF WHO WE'RE SEEING, UM, AFTER HOURS THAT HAVE THESE MASK QUANTITIES AND MAYBE JUST PINPOINT IS IT IN AN AREA? IS IT, IS IT IN FACT THAT THIS IS JUST, UM, HOW WE THINK IS ACCEPTABLE? UH, WE KNOW WE'VE HAD THE TIRE SHOP ON 78 THAT HE JUST DIDN'T CARE. 
          AND SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE AND I THINK THAT I DON'T WANNA BUNCH EVERYONE INTO THAT GROUP. 
          SO MAYBE WE, MAYBE WE DO A LITTLE, A LITTLE DEEPER SCOPING AND FIGURE OUT WHO ARE OUR, OUR BAD SEEDS IN THE GROUP. 
          AND AND THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE, EACH TIRE STORE IS GONNA HAVE RECEIPTS OF WHEN THEY SOLD THEIR TIRES OR OKAY. 
          GAVE 'EM AWAY. 
          I I GET A RECEIPT FROM MY TIRE GUY EVERY WEEK. 
          IT, IT'S A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS ON THEIR SIDE. 
          SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE RECEIPTS THAT'S, THAT IS SOMETHING COULD HAVE CODE FOLLOW UP ON. 
          DO WE, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, BECAUSE IF, IF BEFORE BRIAN JUMPS IN AND SAYS YES, , , I, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF TIRE STORES IN GARLAND AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RECEIPTS TO GO THROUGH AND I, I QUESTION WHETHER THAT'S GONNA LEAD US DOWN A TRAIL OF COMING UP WITH A GOOD POLICY FRAMEWORK FOR, FOR THIS. 
          UM, AGAIN, NOT, NOT SAYING IT MAY NOT, BUT SO, UM, I, I THINK LET'S KEEP, LET'S KEEP PUSHING AND PRYING. 
          I THINK THE, THE CONVERSATION HERE IS GREAT. 
          I WILL SAY THAT, UM, THE CITY DOES PAY ABOUT 15,000 A YEAR TO DISPOSE OF TIRES THAT COME EITHER THROUGH CODE OR OTHERWISE END UP AT THE TRANSFER STATION. 
          AND SO THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE ARE INCURRING A COST ON NOW, UH, THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF. 
          UM, BUT I, I THINK WE STILL NEED TO GO DOWN THE, THE TRAIL OF IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO IN TERMS OF, UM, BEING THE LAST IN LINE? 'CAUSE ALL THESE END UP SOMEWHERE FOR DISPOSAL AT SOME POINT AND, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IF THE CITY PLAYS A ROLE IN THAT? YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN CHASE THAT DOWN AND I'D SUGGEST IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO, WE JUST EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM AND, AND BRING IT BACK. 
          UH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE RELATED. 
          I I THINK THE ISSUES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE RELATED. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SOLVE THE OTHER ONE TODAY. 
          SURE. 
          DEFINITELY NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, NO, WE'RE DEFINITELY YES, CHRIS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          DOES OKAY. 
          DO TIRE SHOPS? OKAY. 
          LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, A BACKGROUND IN RESTAURANT, RIGHT? AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, GET, WHEN, WHEN, UH, HEALTH COMES BY, YOU HAVE TO SHOW 'EM YOUR GREASE TICKET. 
          YOU HAVE TO SHOW 'EM YOUR, UH, PEST CONTROL INSPECTIONS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          SO DO TIRE SHOPS HAVE ANY KIND OF REGULAR ANNUAL, SEMI-ANNUAL CHECK FROM CODE OR FROM ENVIRONMENTAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO CHECK A RECEIPT TICKET. 
          I DO HAVE FIRE MARSHALS THAT COME IN AND DO A, A MARSHAL INSPECTION ONCE A YEAR AND THEN A SOFT ONE ONCE A YEAR TOO. 
          SO TWICE A YEAR THEY ARE IN MY STORE FOR THAT FIRE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NO, NO ENVIRONMENTAL, NO CODE. 
          YEAH, NOTHING LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          NO CODE. 
          NO SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN, IN BY ENVIRONMENTAL, JUST, UM, UH, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS AGO, UM, IN OUR FRIDAY 
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UPDATES, THEY HAD ONE FROM, UH, CNM TIRES THAT THEY HAD INSPECTED. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS LIKE A ONE OFF BECAUSE OF, UM, DRAINAGE OR SOMETHING. 
          IF, IF THEY GET A COMPLAINT THAT IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF, UM, YOU KNOW, STORM WATER OR UM, POLLUTION OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT, THEY WOULD FOLLOW UP. 
          BUT THERE'S NOT A REGULAR, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LICENSING OR REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT FOR TIRE STORES THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD DRIVE A ANNUAL INSPECTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK IN LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE, UM, JUST IF WE POPPED IN AND NEEDED TO SEE THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS OF WHERE THEY'VE HAD SOMEONE PICK UP OLD TIRES? IS THAT JUST TAKES MONEY IN PEOPLE? YEAH, SURE. 
          I MEAN, BUT IF WE'RE SPENDING $15,000 A YEAR ON, ON ILLEGALLY DUMPED TIRES AND THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE FOOTING THE BILL, NOT TO MENTION WHAT THESE GUYS ARE FOOTING THE BILL, I WOULD MUCH RATHER PAY A PORTION OF THAT TO START GETTING IT UNDER CONTROL. 
          'CAUSE I THINK EVERY YEAR THAT THAT 15,000 NUMBER IS GONNA GROW. 
          RIGHT. 
          BETTER BE PRO HISTORICALLY WHERE IT'S BEEN. 
          BUT I THINK, AND PHIL MIGHT KNOW BETTER, BUT I THINK MOST OF THOSE TIRES THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR THE DISPOSAL OF ARE COMING FROM CO I MEAN YOU GUYS FIND 'EM IN CREEKS AND ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND VACANT PROPERTY. 
          UM, NOT NECESSARILY FROM TIRE STORES, IT'S COMING JUST FROM ILLEGAL DUMPING SURE. 
          ACROSS THE CITY. 
          BUT I, I'M, MY MY, I PROMISE I'M GONNA GET YOU, I'M SORRY. 
          I SEE MY, MY CONCERN IS I PUT ENTIRE, UM, ESS QUITE FREQUENTLY. 
          I I THINK OUR GUYS CAN AT JUST, I AM, I AM A TIRE FINDING MACHINE AND IT IS ALWAYS A DECENT NUMBER OF TIRES. 
          I THINK FINDING A, FINDING A TIRE HERE AND THERE OUTSIDE OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE WHERE THEY'VE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE REPLACING TIRES ON THEIR OWN AT THEIR HOUSE, BUT BLESS THEM. 
          UM, BUT IT'S IN CONSTRUCTION SITES, SOMEONE IS, I MEAN THERE WAS ON MILLER, THERE WAS LIKE 12 TIRES IN THIS THAT SOMEONE JUST DUMPED. 
          WELL NO ONE IS REPLACING 12 TIRES AT THEIR HOUSE. 
          SO MY LOGICAL PART OF MY BRAIN IS LIKE, IT'S SOMEONE WITH A SMALL SHOP, IT'S SOMEONE THAT IS TAKING A HANDFUL AND DUMPING 'EM HERE REAL QUICK, DUMPING IN THERE REAL QUICK. 
          UM, WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          GIMME ONE, ONE SECOND. 
          UM, YES, I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, SO LIKE THAT ONE ON MILLER MM-HMM . 
          FOR THE DYERS, UM, THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE CONSTRUCTION CREW THAT BROUGHT THOSE IN AND IT WAS PART OF THEIR LOADING AND UNLOADING PROCESS FOR SOME OF THEIR HEAVY MACHINERY. 
          THAT WAS THE ONE ON THE RAILROAD TRACKS. 
          THERE WAS A SECOND ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THAT, I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THIS ONE WAS DOWN MILLER, LIKE AT HILLTOP AND IT WAS IN FRONT OF THAT, UM, THAT NEW SUBDIVISION. 
          THERE WAS LIKE A WHOLE STACK OF THEM. 
          AND SO YEAH, THAT ONE WAS WEIRD THOUGH. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS GENTLEMAN'S QUESTION ABOUT, UH, REGULATORY, UH, THINGS THAT WE DO ENCOUNTER AS, AS TIRE SHOP OPERATORS AND OWNERS. 
          WE ARE, UM, REGULATED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          EVERY TIRE THAT WE TAKE IN TO BE RECYCLED HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR. 
          WE CAN'T THROW 'EM IN THE DUMP, WE CAN'T THROW 'EM IN THE LANDFILL. 
          THEY HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR BY LAW, BY THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          SO EVERY WEEK WE HAVE A TIRE RECYCLING PLANT THAT COMES AND PICKS UP OUR TAKEOFFS, OUR USED TIRES THAT CAN BE RECYCLED INTO PLAYGROUND CHIPPINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          TAR FOR HIGHWAYS. 
          AND, AND UH, SO LIKE YESTERDAY A TRUCK CAME AND PICKED UP 350 USED TIRES THAT WE SOLD, NEW ONES AND DISPOSED OF THEIR OLD ONES. 
          THAT'S A THREE PART FORM. 
          I GET ONE PART OF THAT FORM SAYING WE SENT 350 TIRES TO YOUR FACILITY TO BE RECYCLED ONCE IT GETS RECEIVED BY THE RECYCLING PLANT, THERE'S THE SECOND PORTION OF THAT MANIFEST FORM AND THE THIRD PORTION COMES BACK TO US SHOWING, PROVING IF THE STATE OF TEXAS COMES IN THAT WE HAVE PROPERLY DISPOSED OF EVERY TIRE THAT WE, SO IN THAT WAY WE ARE REGULATED. 
          THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT YOU HAD AND I WANTED TO SHARE HOW THAT WORKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND 
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IS THERE ANY FOLLOW UP BY THE STATE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS OR ANYTHING FOR THOSE OR? I HAVE BEEN, UH, ASKED FOR MY MANIFEST FORMS OVER THE YEARS. 
          DOES THAT HAPPEN ON A REGULAR BASIS OR CONSISTENT BASIS RATHER? OR IS IT JUST IT IT IS, NO, IT'S NOT A REGULAR BASIS THAT I HAVE TO PRODUCE THOSE, BUT I, I HAVE TO SAVE EVERY ONE OF THOSE MANIFEST FORMS SHOWING THAT WHERE IT STARTED AND WHERE IT ENDED THAT TIRE. 
          AWESOME. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I'M WONDERING, I MEAN, ANYONE THAT'S DUMPING ILLEGAL TIRES, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE REALLY GONNA BE RUNNING THEIR SHOP THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE. 
          I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN ABOUT, UM, I RECENTLY PUT OUT A FACEBOOK NEXT DOOR MARKETING CAMPAIGN SAYING A COMMUNITY SERVICE. 
          WE OFFER TIRE RECYCLING. 
          UM, AND THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN UNBELIEVABLE TO THAT. 
          UM, LITTLE FACEBOOK MARKETING POST INSTAGRAM, THAT KIND OF THING, UM, OF PEOPLE BRINGING IN THEIR TWO USED TIRES THAT THEIR HUSBAND'S HAD BESIDE THE SHED FOR YEARS, DRAWING MOSQUITOES, BREEDING MOSQUITOES. 
          UM, IT'S BEEN PHENOMENAL THAT THAT RESPONSE OF SAYING WE'RE HERE TO, YOU KNOW, OFFER COMMUNITY RECYCLING FEE. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          YEAH, AND THAT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL. 
          AND ONE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT HERE TODAY IS I LOVE THE CODES RULE OF FIVE BY FIVE BY FIVE, NO MORE THAN FIVE FEET HIGH, NO MORE THAN FIVE FEET FROM YOUR BUILDING AND NO MORE THAN FIVE DAYS AT A TIME. 
          UM, BUT IT'S, UM, IT NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED. 
          SO THERE'S PARTICULARLY A NEW LOCATION ON 78, UH, BEFORE YOU GET TO THE WALNUT STREET BRIDGE THAT, UM, THEY HAVE THEM RIGHT OUT ON LAVO AND PEOPLE ARE COMING THROUGH THAT FIVE POINT INTERSECTION HITTING 78 AND ACCELERATING. 
          AND IT'S REAL BLINDSIDING AND IT'S DANGEROUS. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT IF ONE IS COMPELLED TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING, WE'RE ALL HERE TO MAKE OUR CITY AS NICE AS WE CAN. 
          AND, UM, SO I JUST THINK THAT TO ENFORCE THE CODES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          WE, I AGREE WITH YOU FULLY. 
          AND THAT'S ALL THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS JUST TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE GO FULL FLEDGED INTO THE ENFORCEMENT, WE WANTED TO GET, UH, HAVE YOUR, YOU ALL'S INPUT TO SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE AND WHAT DOESN'T. 
          SO YES, IT'S GONNA BE A MONUMENTAL TASK TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING AND WHAT AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TODAY, JUST TO DISCUSS THAT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, THOUGHTS, EXTREMES, ASPIRATIONS? SO  FOR, GIMME ONE SECOND HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          COULD, COULD WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT CHANGES WE'RE PROPOSING AND, UM, OR MAYBE THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOT ENFORCED THAT WE, WE PLAN ON STARTING TO ENFORCE AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE FEEDBACK FROM THE TIRE SHOP OWNERS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON IT? YES, SIR. 
          GREAT QUESTION. 
          SO AS OF THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ONCE WE'VE LOOKED THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND WE SEE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T FULLY ENFORCED IN A LARGE SCOPE. 
          AND SO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE, THE FIVE BY FIVE BY FIVE IS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS. 
          WE JUST HAVEN'T REALLY ENFORCED IT FULLY. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD, AS I MENTIONED, THAT WOULD BE A MONUMENTAL TASK FOR US TO DO WITH 56 PLUS, UH, TIRE SHOPS AND LIKELY A HALF DOZEN, A COUPLE, COUPLE DOZEN MORE THAT WE HAVEN'T ACCOUNTED FOR, THAT THEIR PRIMARY PURPOSE IS NOT STRICTLY TIRE SALES. 
          SO WE'RE PREPARED TO PROCEED WITH THAT, STARTING WITH AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN JUST TO GET THE WORD OUT, GIVE FOLKS TIME TO VOLUNTARILY COMPLY COMING TO COMPLIANCE. 
          AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE'RE READY TO PROCEED FULLY. 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          AND YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE FIVE BY FIVE BY FIVE? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          AND AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS, UH, DISPLAY GOES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING, EASY TO COMPLY WITH, UM, MANAGING STAFF TO DO? IT 
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IS, YEP. 
          YEAH, AS FAR AS OUR SHOP GOES, IT'S ALREADY, THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SAME, ANY, ANYTHING OVER FIVE FOOT TALL BECOMES A SAFETY HAZARD THAT CAN FALL ON SOMEBODY. 
          SO COMPANY STANDARDS PREVENT US FROM DOING THAT EVEN THEMSELVES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO KNOW THAT, UM, IT IS ALSO A SAFETY, UM, THING. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT'S ONE THING TO SAY LIKE, EH, IT'S JUST UGLY VERSUS LIKE, IT IS A SAFETY. 
          NO, IT'S A, IT'S A HUGE SAFETY THING THAT MAKES, MAKES TOTAL SENSE. 
          ONCE YOU GET OVER A FIVE FOOT, IT BECOMES REALLY WOBBLY AND WIND CAN BLOW IT OVER. 
          SO, I MEAN, YOU COULD HAVE YOUR BACK GRABBING A QUARTER OFF THE GROUND AND, AND THAT COMES ON YOU, IT, IT, IT MAY NOT KILL YOU, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA FEEL GOOD. 
          YEAH, FOR SURE. 
          WE DON'T NEED ANY FINAL DESTINATION STUFF GOING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND CUSTOMERS BEING EXPOSED, CUSTOMERS EXPOSED TO RISK LIKE THAT IS A CONCERN. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY VALID, VERY VALID POINT. 
          I, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT PART UP. 
          'CAUSE AGAIN, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT OF. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT IS VERY USEFUL. 
          IF I MAY, ANOTHER AREA THAT WE WILL TRY TO RAMP UP ENFORCEMENT IS THE SCREENING PART OF IT. 
          SO EVEN BEYOND THE DISPLAY, UH, THE ORDINANCE DICTATES THAT ANY ITEMS SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED FROM PUBLIC VIEW, FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO WHETHER A SCREENED WITH SOME TYPE OF OPAQUE FENCING OR SOME TYPE OF COVER, UH, EACH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NOT CURRENTLY BEING USED OR DISPLAYED NEEDS TO BE SCREENED FROM PUBLIC VIEW. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA IMPROVE THE AESTHETICS OF THE CITY AS WELL. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          REALLY GOOD. 
          BRIAN, IF I MAY ALSO, YES, SIR. 
          UM, JUST ONE THING TO POINT OUT, JUST AS FOR, YOU KNOW, MATTER OF CLARIFICATION, THE OUTSIDE STORAGE DISPLAY IS NOT JUST FOR TIRES, RIGHT? SO ALTHOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TIRES HERE TODAY AND YOU KNOW, YOU SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DON'T HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS IS BECAUSE AT THIS TIME, THIS IS NOT A TIRE SHOP ORDINANCE, THIS IS AN OUTSIDE DISPLAY. 
          AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD CHANGE TO, IT WOULD CHANGE FOR ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, IT WOULD CHANGE FOR EVERYONE. 
          AND SO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          SO SHOULD WE GO DOWN THE ROAD OF CHANGING, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS ISN'T JUST FOR TIRE SHOPS, IT'S FOR ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. 
          THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          SO MM-HMM . 
          IS THERE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING OUTDOOR DISPLAY THAT'S RELATED TO SALES ACTIVITIES? CORRECT, SIR. 
          SO THAT'S STORAGE. 
          THERE IS A DISTINCTION. 
          TRASH. 
          SO, SO WE NEED TO LOOK UP BOTH AVENUES. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH ISSUES AND THEY BOTH ARE ADDRESSING THE ORDINANCE DIFFERENTLY, CORRECT? YES. 
          SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE STORAGE AS WELL AS OUTSIDE DISPLAYS LIKE MORE, WHICH ARE BOTH COVERED IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          SO THERE AS, AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THE OUTSIDE DISPLAY IS, AS ANDY MENTIONED, IT'S STRICTLY FOR ITEMS FOR SALE. 
          SO THAT'S ALREADY COVERED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE. 
          AND SO IS OUTSIDE STORAGE, WHICH IS MATERIALS USED TIRES THAT AREN'T MEANT FOR SALE, BUT THEY'RE JUST DISCARDED MATERIALS, PALLETS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE FUNCTIONAL FOR THE BUSINESS. 
          BUT THOSE SHOULD NOT BE VISIBLE AT ANY POINT FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IS, IS THERE ANY, UM, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, IS THERE ANY INSTANCE WHERE THIS WOULD NOT BE A VIABLE THING FOR A CERTAIN BUSINESS? LIKE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST ALL COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE FOCUSED ON TIRES AND SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO THINK LIKE, IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE THAT HAS AN OUTSIDE DISPLAY THAT THIS WOULD BE LIKE, JUST DETRIMENTAL TO THEIR BUSINESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS THE, THE RARE EXCEPTION, THE ONE-OFFS. 
          BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE THINK EVERY BUSINESS SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE OUTSIDE STORAGE AND THE DISPLAY. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE STORAGE, YOU MAY HAVE A BRICKYARD, UM, BUILDING MATERIALS, CINDER BLOCKS, YOU KNOW, THOSE WOULD STILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH THAT OUTSIDE SCREENING. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE FEEL, WE DON'T FEEL IT'D BE A HUGE UNDUE BURDEN ON ANY BUSINESS, BUT OF COURSE THERE WILL BE SOME EXCEPTIONS. 
          THEY MAY BE DETRIMENTAL. 
          OKAY. 
          I DEFINITELY LOVE, UM, THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON, UM, THE OUTSIDE STORAGE AS A WHOLE WITH THE SCREENING. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT IRRITATES ME MORE THAN DRIVING PAST SOMEWHERE THAT HAS SCREENING ALONG THEIR FENCE, BUT THEIR PILES ARE STILL FIVE FEET PAST THE FENCE. 
          AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THAT? YOU KNOW, LIKE, I MEAN, THERE'S ROOF, I'VE GOT ROOFING COMPANIES IN MY DISTRICT THAT YOU DRIVE BY AND IT'S LIKE, COOL SCREENING. 
          I STILL KNOW 
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EXACTLY WHAT DISASTER YOU'VE GOT BACK THERE BECAUSE IT'S STILL FOUR OR FIVE FEET PAST THE ACTUAL EIGHT FOOT FENCE, YOU KNOW? AND SO I I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE, UM, IT, IT ADDS A WHOLE DIFFERENT TACKY, UH, AESTHETIC TO THE CITY. 
          SO. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND IT SEEMS LIKE SUCH A SMALL REQUIREMENT TO ACHIEVE SUCH A GREAT MM-HMM . 
          GOAL OF, OF PUTTING IT BEHIND SCREENING. 
          JUST, YEAH, I MEAN, REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T WANT TO HINDER ANYONE'S ABILITY TO MAKE THEIR LIVELIHOOD. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, I'M THE, I'M THE LAST PERSON THAT WANTS TO AFFECT ANYONE'S MONEY. 
          THE WORLD IS WEIRD RIGHT NOW. 
          THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE. 
          WE'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO KEEP A ROOF OVER OUR FAMILY'S HEADS AND FOODS IN THEIR BELLY. 
          SO THAT IS, THAT IS MOST DEFINITELY NOT OUR GOAL TO AFFECT ANYONE FROM BEING ABLE TO MAKE THAT LIVELIHOOD. 
          UM, WE JUST HAVE TO DO SO IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER SO THAT WE ARE STILL UPHOLDING OUR END OF THE BARGAIN TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO INCOMING BUSINESSES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, LIKE, NO ONE WANTS TO INVEST MONEY WHERE IT'S NOT PRETTY. 
          AND SO, UM, IF WE CAN DO THAT RESPONSIBLY WHERE WE'RE DOING A JUSTICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES, THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR GOAL IS. 
          SO, UM, UH, BRIAN, I ONE QUESTION, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH, CAN YOU GIMME JUST KIND OF A, A QUICK LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL PUTTING IT TOGETHER. 
          WE HAVE SOME ROUGH, ROUGH OUTLINES OF WHAT WE WILL DO. 
          UH, BUT IT WILL, IT'LL BE MULTIFACETED. 
          SO WE'LL AS FAR AS PUTTING OUT MAILERS, UH, EVEN GOING, GOING DOOR TO DOOR, JUST WITH A BRIEF SYNOPSIS, BULLET POINTS, EASY TO FOLLOW OF WHAT WE EXPECT, UH, LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S FEASIBLE 90 DAYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          SO IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF WE JUST ROUGHLY ESTIMATE 56 THAT WE KNOW, LET'S ADD ANOTHER 20 OR SO TO IT, SAYING WE HAVE 70, 76 BUSINESSES THAT WOULD FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY. 
          HOPEFULLY WE GET HALF OF THEM TO VOLUNTARILY COMPLY. 
          PERFECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE CAN CUT IT DOWN BECAUSE FOR THE, FOR THE SAKE OF REPEATING MYSELF, IS WE'LL BE A MONUMENTAL TASK FOR OUR TEAM TO DOCUMENT EACH BUSINESS, UM, FIVE PLUS TIMES PER MONTH. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE TO KEEP A RUNNING CHECKLIST OF WHO IS OUTSIDE, WHO'S VIOLATING THAT OUTSIDE DISPLAY ORDINANCE. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO GIVE PLENTY OF TIME TO VOLUNTARILY COMPLY AND HOPEFULLY 50% OR MORE WILL FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO GIVE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO ADJUST. 
          AND THEN FROM THAT POINT, WE WOULD, UH, COMMENCE WITH ENFORCEMENT. 
          PERFECT. 
          SO I AM A FAN OF THE MAILERS, I UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS OF TRYING TO GET YOU GUYS OUT TO EVERY SHOP. 
          UM, I, I, I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE. 
          UM, HOWEVER, UM, EDUCATION IS, WE ARE, WE ARE VERY BIG PROPONENTS OF EDUCATING PEOPLE PRIOR TO TAKING ACTION. 
          UM, 'CAUSE A LOT OF IT IS NO ONE KNOWS ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES. 
          AND I THINK THAT IT'S VERY UNREALISTIC TO EXPECT THAT EVERYONE DOES THAT. 
          UM, SO I AM A BIG FAN OF THE MAILERS. 
          AND THEN LET'S, I I THINK IF WE ROLLED OUT SOME MAILERS, LIKE, HEY, THESE ARE, AND I, LET'S NOT COPY AND PASTE ORDINANCES, LIKE, 'CAUSE WHO'S READING THAT? YOU KNOW. 
          UM, BUT I, I LIKE, IF WE COULD JUST, THESE ARE SOME KEY POINTS THAT WE NEED YOU GUYS TO TAKE A LOOK AT. 
          I'M, 90 DAYS I THINK IS PLENTY. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE SUMMER MONTHS. 
          IF, IF WE WERE IN THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER, I WOULD SAY WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO LONGER. 
          'CAUSE GEEZ, IT'S HOT OUTSIDE. 
          BUT NOW THAT WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE SUMMER MONTHS, I THINK THAT IT'S MORE FEASIBLE FOR A 90 DAY. 
          WOULD YOU GUYS AGREE THAT, THAT IF WE, IF YOU WERE IN VIOLATION OF SOMETHING, THAT 90 DAYS WOULD BE A GOOD YES, I WOULD. 
          TIRES ARE HEAVY. 
          I MEAN, THAT ALONE, THE ONLY THING THAT I SEE A PROBLEM WITH IS CORPORATIONS LIKE MYSELF. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IF WE HAD TO PUT IN A FENCE OR A SCREENING PER SE, THE AMOUNT OF STEPS THAT I HAVE TO TAKE TO GET THAT APPROVED WOULD TAKE LONGER THAN 90 DAYS. 
          SURE. 
          BUT THAT'S THE ONLY TIME, AGAIN, CORPORATIONS MY SIZE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. 
          IT SHOULD ALREADY BE IN PLACE TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. 
          ANYWAYS. 
          SO ASIDE FROM THOSE BIG THINGS WE'RE, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT THAT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME. 
          AND, AND OUR CODE GUYS ARE PHENOMENAL AT WORKING WITH PEOPLE. 
          WE WORK WITH YOU. 
          RIGHT? SO IN THE EVENT OF THAT, IF YOU'VE JUST CONTACTED THEM AND SAID, HEY, LIKE I, WE 
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GOT YOUR LOVE LETTER, UM, YOU KNOW, CORPORATE, WE'VE SENT IT TO CORPORATE, WE'RE, WE'RE HOLDING UNTIL THEY GIVE US, YOU KNOW, THE GUYS ARE ALWAYS PHENOMENAL ABOUT WORKING WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, OUR OUR GOAL ISN'T TO TAKE, TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM ANYONE. 
          IT'S NOT CODE IS NOT OUT TO MAKE A REVENUE. 
          WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE A REVENUE MAKER. 
          WE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE CITY. 
          AND SO THEY'RE, THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FANTASTIC ABOUT WORKING WITH PEOPLE. 
          AND SO I I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT POINT UP. 
          SO IF, IF WE'VE GOT THOSE CORPORATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT, AND WE KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE DRAG THEIR FEET BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THEIR FACE EVERY DAY. 
          SO, UM, CARISSA YES, MA'AM. 
          EVEN WITH THE SMALL BUSINESSES, IT'S A ONE, A ONE SHOP. 
          IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN 90 DAYS TO RAISE THE FUNDS OR TO GET THE PERMITS OR TO GET IT BUILT, AS LONG AS THE SHOP OWNER IS WORKING WITH OUR CODE DEPARTMENT MM-HMM . 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, OH MY GOD, I GOT THE CITATION HERE 90 DAYS FROM NOW I'M GETTING, OR I GOT THE NOTICE, 90 DAYS I'M GETTING THE CITATION. 
          AS LONG AS YOU'RE WORKING ON IT AND IT'S A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO BE WORKING ON IT, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, SO YES MA'AM. 
          KEYWORD WAS GOOD FAITH EFFORT. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE RELY ON. 
          RIGHT? WAIT, SHOW, SHOW US THAT YOU ARE DILIGENTLY WORKING TOWARD A SOLUTION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU WITHIN REASON. 
          AND THEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT WAS BORN OVERNIGHT. 
          UH, NOR WILL IT TURN AROUND OVERNIGHT. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME PATIENCE WITH IT, AND WE'D ASK FOR SOME PATIENCE, OF COURSE, WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT, THAT INCREMENTAL PROGRESS. 
          BUT WE FEEL LIKE WE'LL BE ON THE RIGHT PATH, UM, STARTING FIRST OF THE YEAR. 
          SURE. 
          AND, AND I THINK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, THAT, UM, THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT, GIVEN THE GRACE PEOPLE NEED TO TRY TO COMPLY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW GARLAND HAS A STRONG CODE, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT BEING BORN AND RAISED IN GARLAND. 
          WE'RE ABOUT TO CELEBRATE 50 YEARS AT PAY LESS TIRE AND PLANNING A BIG COMMUNITY EVENT WITH LESS FROM THE CITY OF GARLAND. 
          AND, AND REALLY, CONGRATULATIONS, , THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          BUT, SO I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO BEFORE YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND, AND REQUEST A PERMIT AND THEY'VE GOT STRONG GUIDELINES FOR FENCES. 
          I WOULD HOPE THAT IF WE'RE ALL IN A COLLECTIVE EFFORT FOR THE SAME GOAL OF KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, CLEAN AND NICE AND INVITING AND COMFORTABLE, THE, THE, THE CITY CAN ALSO BE FLEXIBLE IN, WELL IT SAYS, CODE SAYS THIS FENCE CAN'T BE ERECTED RIGHT THERE, BUT AN OWNER'S TRYING TO CREATE A SCREENING. 
          I HOPE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME SORT OF COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THERE TO ACHIEVE A, A GOAL THAT SUIT, YOU KNOW, FITS EVERYBODY OR SERVES EVERYONE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I KNOW, UH, SCOTT MAY, OUR FORMER MAYOR, UM, KEEPS YOU GUYS IN BUSINESS SO . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I I FEEL LIKE EVERY TIME I OPEN FACEBOOK, HE'S AT, HE'S AT THE TIRE SHOP AND HE'S YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          HE'S BEEN LETTING US HELP HIM WITH HIS TIRE NEEDS FOR DECADES AND WE APPRECIATE HIM. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I, ON BEHALF OF THE, THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE, I, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO COME OUT TODAY AND TALK TO US AND, YOU KNOW, LETTING US BOUNCE SOME THINGS OFF OF YOU. 
          AND PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS WELCOME TO COME DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COME TO A COMMITTEE MEETING, GIVE US A CALL. 
          UM, WE ARE ALWAYS HERE TO HELP AS BEST AS WE CAN BECAUSE IT, IT'S A, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP. 
          IT'S SO WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU GUYS. 
          AND WE DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE YOU ARE DROWNING OR YOU ARE UNDERWATER. 
          IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU GUYS AS WELL, AND YOU GUYS ARE, YOU GUYS ARE THE EYES, RIGHT? SO YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT DIFFICULTIES Y'ALL ARE FACING, AND MAYBE THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP YOU GUYS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF LIKE WE DID TODAY AND BOUNCE THINGS OFF OF EACH OTHER AND TRY TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN FOR THE OVERALL GOOD. 
          SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING OUT AND TALKING TO US TODAY. 
          AND DON'T BE A STRANGER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE GETTING, GETTING THE LETTER AND THE INVITATION TO COME AND BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT IT'S, IT'S BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF US. 
          YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT PROBABLY EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM HAS WALKED AWAY WITH A NEW LITTLE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT OTHERWISE WE MIGHT NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT. 
          AND, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT OUR COMMITTEE IS ABOUT, IS, YOU KNOW, LEARNING, LEARNING WHAT THE STRUGGLES REALLY 
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ARE BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE JEFF AND I BOTH HAVE SAID, WE DRIVE AROUND AND WE SEE ONE THING, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS WHAT MEETS THE EYE. 
          SO THE EDUCATION AND HELPING AND, YOU KNOW, BE IN BE IN A TRIBE TOGETHER IS, IS WHAT IT TAKES TO REALLY MEET OUR GOAL OF CLEANING UP THE CITY AND JUST DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR EVERYONE. 
          SO WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS SOME MORE. 
          SO DON'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU DON'T GET ANOTHER MAILER, UM,  IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS ASKING YOU TO COME BACK. 
          AND, UM, I, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD INFORMATION TODAY. 
          AND, UM, LIKE JUDD SAID, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO EXPAND, UM, OUR GOAL OF THIS TOPIC ON OUR AGENDA. 
          UM, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE, UM, MAYBE LIKE AN ANNUAL MAILER OF LIKE, THESE, THIS IS WHAT'S, THESE ARE WHAT OUR GOALS ARE AND OUR EXPECTATIONS OF, UM, TIRE SHOPS. 
          JUST WE, WE KNOW TURNOVER IS A THING. 
          UM, AND I, I THINK THAT THAT'S A, A MINIMALLY EVASIVE AND MINIMALLY FINANCIALLY, UM, SOUND THING THAT WE CAN DO IS JUST SEND OUT MAILERS, YOU KNOW, ONCE A YEAR AND JUST, HEY, FRIENDLY REMINDER. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          FRIENDLY REMINDER. 
          AND WE WOULD EXPAND THAT TOO, BECAUSE WE WANT TO, WE'RE GONNA INCLUDE ALL AUTO RELATED BUSINESSES, RIGHT? SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAST A WIDE NET. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THERE STILL WILL BE SOME THAT WE MAY MISS, BUT WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GET THOSE AS ONE OFFS. 
          SURE. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL EXPAND THAT, THAT OUTREACH ONCE A YEAR WILL BE NO PROBLEM FOR US. 
          PERFECT. 
          I THINK, I THINK THAT, THAT, JUST THANK Y'ALL. 
          THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT Y'ALL DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND CONGRATULATIONS ON 50 YEARS. 
          AND KEEP US POSTED WHEN YOU'RE A COMMUNITY, VENICE, AND WE'LL COME, WE'LL COME CRASH IT. 
          . 
          THANK, I'LL PROBABLY BE IN THERE GETTING A TIRED, RIGHT? . 
          Y'ALL DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO ANOTHER, UM, LET'S SEE, I WAS MAKING MYSELF NOTES. 
          UM, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO EXPLORE THE OVERABUNDANCE OF TIRES. 
          UM, LIKE JUDGE SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 15,000 A YEAR THAT WE ARE SPENDING ON RECYCLING TIRES. 
          UM, I DON'T, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT, UM, AVENUES OF HOW DO WE BE PROACTIVE IN THIS, RIGHT? UM, MUCH LIKE THE, THE LAKE SITUATION. 
          LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT HOW DO WE START TRYING TO GET THIS RESPONSIBLY HANDLED. 
          I HATE TO THINK THAT ANYBODY ELSE IS FOOTING THE BILL FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S IRRESPONSIBILITY OR NEGLECT. 
          UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY TIRES WE'RE COLLECTING AT OUR RECYCLING EVENTS. 
          UM, AND WHAT IS OUR TREND ON THAT? IS IT, IS IT, ARE WE IN AN UPWARD TREND OF THAT? UM, DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT INCREASING THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO BRING IN? UM, AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT SOME RECYCLING POSSIBILITIES THAT WE'RE NOT LIKE, IS, IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY, CAN WE TIP UP THOSE TIRES AND USE THEM SOMEWHERE AROUND TOWN? I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST WE'RE FOOTING AN ASTRONOMICAL BILL EVERY YEAR FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S BUSINESS TO PROSPER. 
          IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN USE IT HERE, IF THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. 
          MAY I, UH, YES. 
          ASK A QUESTION. 
          UM, THE ITEM THAT WAS, UH, SUBMITTED WAS RELATED TO THE OUTSIDE STORAGE OF TIRES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I WAS GOING TO REQUEST IF WE COULD HAVE THIS GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL PROCESS OF HAVING, UH, AN ITEM SUBMITTED TO, TO COMMITTEES SO WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE NEXT TIME WE MEET TO BE ABLE TO PULL THIS INFORMATION. 
          IF THAT, YEAH. 
          IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THAT'S FINE. 
          UM, I THINK WE WERE THINKING WE WERE STILL KIND OF ON TRACK BECAUSE OF THE DUMPING OF THE, UH, TIRES OUTSIDE. 
          BUT IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT WOULD BE BE MY SUGGESTION. 
          SURE. 
          AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO, TO TALK ABOUT THIS. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS ARE TALKING ABOUT, SO HAVING THEM COORDINATED TOGETHER WOULD BE GREAT. 
          PERFECT. 
          I LIKE WHERE WHERE YOUR HEAD IS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA SPLIT THIS UP INTO TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. YES. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE, UH, OUR, OUR SECOND ITEM IS JUST ALL THINGS TIRES, JUST A BLANKET. 
          TALK ABOUT WHAT I FEEL LIKE TIRE, LIKE WHO WOULD'VE EVER THOUGHT THAT TIRES WOULD BE SUCH A SERIOUS, LIKE JUST TOPIC IN SITUATION. 
          BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COVID DID TO PEOPLE WHERE THEY DECIDE THAT THAT TIRES ARE JUST, I DON'T KNOW, EVERY CAR DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD'S GOT FOUR OF THAT'S TRUE. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          I WILL SAY, I, 
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I HAVE, THERE'S A LOT OF CARS. 
          YEAH. 
          I HAVE TWO TIRES IN MY BACKYARD. 
          THAT'S OBSERVATION. 
          , HE'S A SMART ONE. 
          HE'S, THAT'S WHY WE KEEP HIM AROUND. 
          HE'S NOT JUST PRETTY MY TRUCK. 
          SEMI . 
          PERFECT. 
          SO, UM, OUR SECOND END OF THAT WOULD BE, UM, HOW TO, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD TO MITIGATE, UM, THE OVERABUNDANCE OF TIRES. 
          MAYBE SEEM LOGICAL. 
          , JUST PUT IT DOWN AS TIRES. 
          A BROAD CATEGORY. 
          TIRE RECYCLING. 
          YEAH, JUST TIRES, TIRE RECYCLING, TIRE DUMPING, DUMPING SLASH RECYCLING. 
          IS THAT, UM, PHIL, IS THAT, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? YES, MA'AM. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD ALL THINGS TIRES BE BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE WE SHOULD ASK FOR TIRES TO RECYCLE THAN WE THE ENTIRE SOLD ALL SOME TRAILER GO AROUND, PICK EVERYTHING UP. 
          , LET ME, LET ME, I WOULD LIKE TO, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, MR. BASS, UM, HOW, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE OUTDOOR STORAGE TOPIC ON HAND? I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOOD MOVING FORWARD WITH THE EDUCATION. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH EDUCATION AND, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK WE GOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YEAH. 
          I THINK WITH OUTDOOR STORAGE IT'S GOOD. 
          I MEAN THEY, ON THEIR END, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT NEED TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR REC, WHOEVER IT IS THAT PICKS UP THE RECYCLING FROM THEM. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE MORE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A BETTER CONVERSATION WITH WHOEVER IT IS PICKING UP THEIR TIRES. 
          IF THEY CAN SAY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE FROM THE CITY. 
          WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH THIS. 
          WE NEED YOU TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE ON YOUR END. 
          AND THEN HONESTLY, AT, AT THAT POINT, IT'S TAKEN THE PRESSURE OFF OF THEM. 
          THEY'RE SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS THE CITY SAYING THIS. 
          AND THEY HAVE SOMETHING TANGIBLE AND PHYSI, TANGIBLE AND PHYSICAL. 
          THEY CAN SHOW THE CITY HAS COME OUT AND SAID THEY'RE GONNA START ENFORCING THIS. 
          YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE YOU GUYS CAN ALWAYS NEGOTIATE WITH A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT COMPANY. 
          I GUARANTEE THERE'S MORE THAN ONE COMPANY THAT PULLS RECE, YOU KNOW, PULLS US TIRES. 
          SO, UM, THAT GIVES YOU THE, THE, UM, EVIDENCE TO, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH, WITH THAT RECYCLER. 
          SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GOOD THERE. 
          PERFECT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, ARE WE COMFORTABLE TAKING THIS TO COUNCIL WITH JUST AN UPDATE OF WHAT WE FOUND? IT MAY BE DUE A SIX MONTH, UM, I'M GONNA SAY SIX MONTH, BUT MAYBE AFTER WE DO THE INITIAL, UM, MAIL OUT OF, UM, EDUCATIONAL WHATEVER, MAYBE DO JUST A QUICK LITTLE UPDATE. 
          LIKE, HAVE WE NOTICED A, A CHANGE IN ANYTHING KIND OF SITUATION? JUST BRING WHAT WE HAVE TO COUNCIL? YEAH, SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE AT NO ACTION MINUS THE SPIN ALL THOUGHT. 
          LISTEN. 
          YEAH. 
          MINUS THE SPIN. 
          THAT'LL, THAT'LL EAT A WHOLE COUNCIL MEETING ITSELF. 
          . 
          SO, SO I GUESS REALLY NO ACTION. 
          WE'RE DOING A NO ACTION. 
          THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE WITH, UM, WELL, WELL STARTING WITH EDUCATION. 
          NO, NO ACT, NO ACTION. 
          BUT IN INFOR INFORMATION FOR COUNSEL THAT WE'RE GOING TO START, WE'RE GOING TO START YES. 
          UH, AN INFORMATIONAL CAMPAIGN AND, AND ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND THEN WE'LL DO A SIX MONTH REVIEW AFTER THAT ROLLS OUT AND SEE IF WE'VE NOTICED ANY, ANY POSITIVE CHANGES AND, OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          PERFECT. 
          PERFECT. 
          NO COUNSEL ACTION. 
          NO COUNSEL ACTION. 
          JUST TO UPDATE AND THEN, PERFECT. 
          SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SO VERY MUCH. 
          UM, PLEASE DON'T EVER HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO ANY OF US IN THIS ROOM. 
          I'VE GOT CARDS IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE IT. 
          AND DON'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU DON'T GET ANOTHER LETTER FROM US SOON ASKING, UM, FOR SOME, UH, TIPS AND TRICKS AND ADVICE ON WHERE WE MOVE WITH OUR NEW SECOND TIRE, UM, TIRE ACTION ITEM. 
          WE FORWARD TO IT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT ONE, ONE ITEM, BUT YOU BROUGHT UP ANOTHER. 
          YEAH, WE LOVE IT. 
          WE LOVE IT. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          LET ME, PLEASURE. 
          WILL. 
          YOU CAN SEND MY CARDS ALL. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU MORE ABOUT TOWER THAN I EVER YES. 
          GOLLY GUYS. 
          THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS ASK TO BRING AN EXPERT. 
          YEAH, NO, I, I AM VERY, VERY THANKFUL, UM, FOR COUNCILMAN MEN BASS. 
          OH GOLLY, I CANNOT TALK TODAY. 
          SO I SAW A NEW SPINE DOCTOR, WE GOT NEW MEDICATIONS, SO, UM, . 
          BUT I'M VERY FORTUNATE THAT YOU, YOU MENTIONED BRINGING IN THE EXPERTS AND, UM, WE, WE CAN'T MAKE, WE CAN'T MAKE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND ORDINANCES FOR THINGS THAT WE, WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED. 
          SO IF THAT'S NOT OUR WHEELHOUSE, THAT'S NOT OUR WHEELHOUSE THEN. 
          AND WHAT A, OH, THAT WAS GOOD. 
          I DIDN'T EVEN MEAN IT. 
          HECK YEAH. 
          OKAY, LET'S SEE. 
          CAN WE, CAN WE TAKE A QUICK LITTLE, UM, INTERMISSION? WE'RE, BEFORE WE GET TO GRANTS, ARE YOU GUYS LOOKING? WE'RE TABLE, WE'RE TABLING THAT DIDN'T, DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT. 
          NO. 
          YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE TABLING 
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THAT. 
          'CAUSE SCOTT'S NOT HERE. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          SO ITEM THREE C, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT GUIDELINES, WHICH IS A SCOPING. 
          UM, THIS WAS, UM, ON OUR SCHEDULE FOR TODAY. 
          IT IS APPARENTLY GETTING TABLED BECAUSE SCOTT BALLINGER IS NOT IN THE OFFICE TODAY. 
          SO WE WILL PUSH THIS OVER TO OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR AT THE MOMENT. 
          UM, I'M ASSUMING IT'S GONNA BE SEPTEMBER SOMETHING, SOMETHING STAY TUNED. 
          OH, OCTOBER. 
          IT IS SEPTEMBER. 
          SO  WOOLY, UH, OKAY. 
          OCTOBER. 
          SO WE WILL MOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT GUIDELINES SCOPING SESSION TO OUR OCTOBER MEETING. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          SO THAT, THAT MAKES, UM, WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM. 
          UM, OUR NEXT ITEM IS 3D EMERGENCY WEATHER ALERTS POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          THIS IS A SCOPING TOPIC COMMITTEE WILL DISCUSS EMERGENCY WEATHER ALERTS POSTED ON THE CITY OF GARLAND SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS. 
          THIS ITEM WAS REFERRED TO BY THE COMMITTEE BY MYSELF, AND SECONDED BY MARGARET LUT, MAYOR PRO, TIM MARGARET LUT. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT OUR, UH, OUR FANTASTIC EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UM, TEAM HERE. 
          SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THIS REALLY NEEDS TO GO VERY FAR, HONESTLY. 
          UM, SO THIS, I DID BRING THIS, UM, TO, TO THE COMMITTEE, UM, JUST REALLY WANTING US TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN POSTING WEATHER ALERTS. 
          UM, AS, AS A CITY EMPLOYEE, UM, FOR ALL AND INTENTS AND PURPOSES, WE HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF GETTING, UM, NOTIFICATIONS BY OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE, WHICH HAVE LITERALLY SAVED MY HIDE ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. 
          UM, AND SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS I WOULD JUST, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US SHARE THAT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIAS SO THAT WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES GETTING THAT INFORMATION. 
          AND WHILE WE'VE GOT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TEXT MESSAGES, THE EMAILS, UM, THE PHONE CALLS, WHATEVER, HOWEVER YOU'VE, UH, SIGNED UP ON THAT, UH, EVENT, UH, EVERBRITE EVERBRITE, DANG IT. 
          SO CLOSE. 
          BUT THOUGH, GOSH, I'M MIXED. 
          I'M COMBINED THE TWO. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, SO HOWEVER YOU HAVE YOUR SETTINGS, UM, SET ON THAT PROGRAM IS HOW YOU GET YOUR NOTIFICATIONS. 
          HOWEVER, I, I'VE, IT IS ADDRESS SPECIFIC AND SO, WHICH IS FANTASTIC SO THAT YOUR PHONE'S NOT GETTING BLOWN UP FOR NO REASON. 
          HOWEVER, UM, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS AT OUR ADDRESS. 
          AND SO IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING THAT ALERT BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF GARLAND AND YOUR ADDRESS IS IN THE NORTH SIDE OF GARLAND, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL IF PEOPLE COULD JUST GO ONTO OUR, OUR GARLAND, UH, FACEBOOK OR NEXTDOOR OR WHATEVER AND BOOM, IT'S THERE. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT WAS KIND OF THE BASIS OF BRINGING IT. 
          SO I, AND THEN I, I SAID, I DON'T KNOW THAT, HOW FAR WE NEED TO GO WITH THIS, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ACTUALLY WERE ON TOP OF IT DURING THIS LAST, UM, LITTLE BOUT OF STORMS THAT WE GOT. 
          AND SO WHEN I SAW IT POP UP, I WAS LIKE, LOOK AT MY GIRLS. 
          THEY DID IT. 
          SO, UM, THAT WAS KIND OF IT. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT WE DO THAT MORE OFTEN, UM, BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT THE FIRST THING IS AMERICANS THAT WE DO IS I NEED INFORMATION. 
          LET ME HELP ON FACEBOOK. 
          WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE ALL GUILTY OF IT. 
          AND SO, UM, IF WE CAN BE PROACTIVE IN EDUCATING THE MASSES, UM, WHERE THEY GO FOR THEIR INFORMATION, I THINK WE CAN'T GO WRONG. 
          SO THAT WAS THE, THE BASIS OF THAT. 
          IF YOU LADIES HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YEAH, I'LL JUST KIND OF SPEAK TO THIS, THIS PAST, UM, STORM. 
          SO WE'VE HAD, UM, ON THE TWITTER PLATFORM OR X NOW, UM, THERE IS A SYSTEM CALLED READY WORN, WHICH UM, MYSTIC COULD, IF WE NEEDED TO GO INTO THAT SYSTEM. 
          SO YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT, UM, WE HAD IT LINKED THAT WHEN THERE IS A, UM, LIKE THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PUTS OUT A WATCH OR A WARNING, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, TORNADOES OR FLOODING OR, UM, STORMS THAT WHEN THE READY WARN SYSTEM SENDS OUT AN ALERT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THEY SEND IT TO, BUT IT, IT, IT AUTOMATICALLY WAS LINKED TO OUR, UM, X OR TWITTER PLATFORM. 
          AND LAST YEAR WE HAD SET IT UP TO LINK TO FACEBOOK AND I BELIEVE IT WORKED FOR LIKE ONE STORM AND THEN I GUESS WE, IT GOT DISCONNECTED OR WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO YES, WE TURNED IT BACK ON, WENT THROUGH, GOT IT BACK CONNECTED AND THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE JUST MAKE SURE IS IN OUR WORKFLOW THAT WE'RE REGULARLY CHECKING THAT IT'S STILL CONNECTED BECAUSE THAT 
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TAKES THE, UM, IT'S AN AUTOMATIC THING WHEN THEY PUT IT OUT, IT AUTOMATICALLY SHOOTS IT TO BOTH THE X AND THE FACEBOOK AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BETTER THAN US TAKING THE TIME TO MANUALLY DO IT, BUT WE'LL JUST STAY ON TOP OF MAKING SURE THAT IT, IT STAYS CONNECTED. 
          'CAUSE THERE ARE TIMES SINCE IT IS A, I'M GONNA USE THE WORD SPAM, IT'S NOT SPAM, BUT BECAUSE IT, IT IS SENT OUT AUTOMATICALLY, SOMETIMES FACEBOOK OR SOME OF THE PLATFORMS MIGHT SEE IT AS SPAM 'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO SO MANY DIFFERENT, IT'S 'CAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE THE ONLY CITY IT'D BE GOING TO POTENTIALLY. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES IT MIGHT NOT SHOW UP. 
          SO WE'LL JUST BE MAKING SURE THAT UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          AND IF IT DIDN'T GO THAT WE, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE PUT SOMETHING OUT. 
          UM, IT DOESN'T COVER EVERY SITUATION. 
          THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHERE WE WILL HAVE TO DO A MANUAL, BUT THE ONLY TIME WE WILL, UM, HAVE TO DO MANUAL. 
          AND WE'VE TALKED WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND PMR HAVE TALKED, UM, LIKE FLOODGATES WHEN FLOODGATES ARE BEING CLOSED, THOSE ARE TYPES OF WEATHER ALERTS THAT WE PUT OUT MANUALLY. 
          BUT THEN ALSO IF OUR SIRENS ARE ACTIVATED, WE WILL POST, UM, MANUALLY WHY IT HAS BEEN ACTIVATED. 
          SO. 
          PERFECT. 
          AWESOME. 
          UM, AND DOES READY WORN, UM, DOES IT, UM, WORK WITH NEXTDOOR ALSO OR NO IT DOESN'T. 
          SO THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WHAT WE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, PUTTING THAT IN A WORKFLOW OF WHAT OTHER CHANNELS CAN WE TAKE THE MESSAGE THAT THEY'RE DOING IT, WHEN WE SEE IT POST THERE, WE GO AND POST IT ONTO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT ONLY RIGHT NOW WORKS WITH UM, X AND FACEBOOK ARE THE ONLY ONES IT HAS LINKS TO. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WHERE I GET THOSE EMAILS AND I'M LIKE, OH I REALLY JUST WANNA COPY AND PASTE IT AND THEN I'M LIKE, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO . 
          WELL, AND PART OF THAT LIKE, SO WITH READY WARN, I MEAN 'CAUSE THEY'RE VERY KIND OF, UM, THEY, THEY WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THINGS LIKE THE SAME MESSAGE BEING ABLE TO GO ON AN EX UM, AND A FACEBOOK AND SO THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, STORM WARNING FOR DALLAS COUNTY UNTIL THIS TIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT, UM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROVIDES. 
          BUT PART OF THE REASON OF NOT POSTING ALL OF THAT IS, I MEAN, YOU THINK OF WEATHER PEOPLE AND HOW MUCH WEATHER PEOPLE ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT ALWAYS LIKED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS CORRECT. 
          YOU, WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONES THAT ASSUMING THAT WE KNOW EVERYTHING, WE DON'T WANT OUR OUR RESIDENTS TO THINK THAT WE ARE THE OFFICIAL WORD. 
          WE WOULD RATHER THEM LOOK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE THE OFFICIAL WORD, BUT, BUT WE WANNA GIVE YEAH. 
          OUR PEOPLE A HEADS UP ON WHAT WE THINK IS COMING. 
          YEAH, NO, SURE. 
          AND IT, THE POST, UM, I MEAN THIS PAST, THIS PAST WEEK, IT WAS SHORT, SIMPLE, SWEET, AND IT WAS JUST ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU SEE SOMETHING IS POTENTIALLY GOING ON, GO GET YOURSELF THE INFORMATION, RIGHT. 
          SO I, I DEFINITELY LIKE THE WAY THAT IT WAS JUST, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT IS COMING OUR WAY. 
          AND SO IT'S UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON TO BE A GROWNUP ADULT AND GO FIND THE INFORMATION THAT MAY OR MAY NOT PERTAIN TO THEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IF IT'S, IT'S THERE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE TELLING YOU LIKE IT COULD BE SOMETHING IF YOU WANT TO GO LOOK FOR IT, COOL. 
          IF YOU DON'T THEN WHATEVER. 
          BUT WE ARE AT LEAST DOING SOMETHING TO SAY THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF. 
          YES, YES. 
          LIKE OUR, OUR MAY STORM, UH, LAST YEAR, OUR HURRICANE HURRICANE GARLAND, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT WAS GONNA STORM THAT NIGHT, WHICH IS MY OWN FAULT FOR NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO LIFE. 
          BUT IN, IN THOSE INSTANCES IT'S LIKE AT LEAST, AT LEAST WE'RE DOING OUR PART TO, TO GIVE PEOPLE A HEADS UP. 
          LIKE, HEY, YOU, YOU NEED TO BE A LITTLE WEATHER AWARE. 
          AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT THAT POST THAT WE DID, UM, THE OTHER DAY WAS SPOT ON AND IT WAS JUST ENOUGH TO DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. 
          SO I I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY AND IT'S A LOT AND I LOVE THAT, UM, THE READY WORN IS A THING AND IT'S NOT JUST NECESSARILY ADDING TO YOUR CASELOAD BECAUSE WE KEEP Y'ALL BUSY ENOUGH. 
          SO , I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S, THERE IS NOT TOO MANY WAYS TO NOTIFY PEOPLE OF SEVERE WEATHER. 
          UM, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY WAYS YOU NOTIFY PEOPLE OF SEVERE WEATHER, SOMEBODY'S GONNA SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT COMES TO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE OUR PHONES, WE DO GET THOSE ALERTS ON OUR PHONES, UM, FROM THE, IF THERE'S A MILLION WEATHER APPS OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD TO YOUR PHONE, UM, I LOVE THAT THE CITY DOES PUT IT ON FACEBOOK. 
          THEY DO PUT IT ON TWITTER. 
          NOW SOMETIMES THE ALGORITHM IS NOT IN YOUR FAVOR AND YOU DON'T SEE IT UNTIL THREE HOURS LATER, BUT IT'S THERE. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, SOCIAL MEDIA SHOULDN'T BE OUR PRIMARY MEANS OF NOTIFICATION. 
          IT SHOULD BE THERE IN CASE WE, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT IT. 
          'CAUSE I'M NOT ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. 
          UM, BUT PUTTING IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, 
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IF WE COULD GET IT ON OTHER PLATFORMS OTHER THAN JUST FACEBOOK AND, AND X, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO USE OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, IT CAN'T BE OUT THERE IN TOO MANY DIFFERENT FORMATS AS LONG AS THE INFORMATION IS CONSISTENT. 
          AND BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA SAY, OH MY GOD, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          AND THEN, OH WELL YEAH, WE MIGHT HAVE THIS OVER HERE. 
          IT IS GOTTA, IT'S GOTTA MATCH. 
          SO AS LONG AS IT'S A CUT AND PASTE TYPE THING THAT CAN GO FROM HERE TO HERE TO HEAR, TO HEAR WE'VE GOT OUR, OUR EMERGENCY SIREN SYSTEM. 
          AGAIN, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT ANYTIME THOSE GO OFF, WE GET AN EMAIL AND A MESSAGE ON SOCIAL MEDIA ON WHY THOSE ARE GOING OFF. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A TEST, SOMETIMES IT'S A MALFUNCTION, SOMETIMES IT'S A REAL PROBLEM BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE SEVERE STORMS COMING IN AND THE SKY BE CLEAR RIGHT THIS MOMENT. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET HIT IN 15, 20 MINUTES BECAUSE IT'S MOVING THAT FAST. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH ONE OF OUR TORNADOES THAT CAME THROUGH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. 
          IT WAS PERFECTLY CLEAR AT MY HOUSE, BUT THEN IT WASN'T . 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE CAN BE TOO MANY WAYS TO NOTIFY PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE SOMEBODY THAT SAYS, I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          SO WE JUST HAVE TO DO OUR BEST TO TO GET IT OUT THERE. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAYBE GET ON OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS ALSO JUST AS A NOTICE, JUST A, AND GET IT OUT THERE. 
          AND AS A LITTLE BLURB OR A CUT AND PASTE OR SHARE OR HOWEVER IT HAS TO DO TO GET FROM THIS PLATFORM TO THAT PLATFORM, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT EITHER ADDING IT INTO A WORKFLOW THAT, YOU KNOW, DURING WEATHER TIMES OUR STAFF IS SAYING, OKAY, I'M GONNA WAIT UNTIL I SEE IT HERE AND THEN I'LL TAKE THAT AND COPY IT AND PUT IT ON HERE. 
          BUT I ALSO KNOW I'M GONNA GET WITH TECHNOLOGY AS WELL. 
          'CAUSE UM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME TYPE OF SOFTWARES, LIKE I REMEMBER THIS WAS A LONG TIME AGO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT STILL EXISTS, BUT THERE WAS A SOFTWARE THAT WAS CALLED LIKE A THIS THEN OR AN IF THEN OR SOMETHING. 
          AND SO IT WAS, YOU COULD PUT UP SOME KIND OF WORKFLOW THAT IF THIS HAPPENED THEN IT DID THIS. 
          AND SO IF THERE'S A WAY THAT IF SOMETHING IT'S POSTED ON FACEBOOK THAT MEETS THESE PARAMETERS, IT THEN GETS POSTED TO THESE OTHER PLATFORMS. I'M GONNA LOOK INTO WAYS TO, TO AUTOMATE IT FIRST, BUT THEN ADD IT INTO A STAFF MEMBER'S WORKFLOW IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JEFF, YOU GOT ANYTHING? NOPE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SEE ECP. 
          UM, CAN WE, UM, NO ACTION NEEDED BY COUNSEL. 
          LET'S, UM, MAYBE JUST DO A VERY EASY QUICK READY, UM, READY WORN. 
          THIS IS WHAT IT IS. 
          JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY, NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IN A, IN A COUNCIL WORK SESSION. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          WELL, WE'LL PUT IT ON OUR, UH, UPDATE COMMITTEE COUNCIL UPDATE AND JUST HIT ON IT. 
          FIVE MINUTES MAY OR MAY NOT BE, PROBABLY DON'T EVEN NEED, YEAH. 
          YEAH, JUST TELL US WHAT READY WORN IS AND BOOM. 
          DONE. 
          I THINK WE'LL BE EASY PEASY THAT WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU LADIES ARE AMAZING. 
          I HOPE YOU HAVE A FANTASTIC UNEVENTFUL WEATHER DAY. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. 
          WE ARE ALL FINISHED AND COMPLETE. 
          SO AT 1140 THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MEETING.
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