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OKAY.IT IS 5 0 2, AND THIS IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE MEETING.
I HAVE MAYOR PRO, TIM MARGARET LU, AND COUNCIL MEMBER KRISA DUTTON WITH ME, ALONG WITH SEVERAL OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES AND STAFF.
UM, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY? EXCUSE ME.
UM, TODAY WE'LL BE DISCUSSING BOARDS AND COMMISSION ENGAGEMENT.
THIS WAS ORIGINALLY REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 21ST, 2025, WORK SESSION BY MAYOR PRO, TIM LUCK AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUCK.
WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BEFORE, OH, I'M SORRY.
FIRST ITEM I SKIPPED, JUST SKIPPED STUFF ALL OVER THE PLACE, DIDN'T I? I'M READY TO GO.
UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 25TH, UH, MEETING.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS, PERSONS WHO DESIRE TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE ON ANY ITEM OF THE AGENDA ARE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO.
SO NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ENGAGEMENT.
AND PHIL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO VISIT, UH, DIDN'T HAVE, UH, A TON TO GO OVER FOR TONIGHT.
AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WERE, UH, A COUPLE OF BOARDS THAT WE WANTED TO TALK TO THE COMMITTEE ABOUT IF THERE WAS A, A NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE BOARDS.
SO I PROVIDED A LIST OF ALL OF THE BOARDS THAT WE HAVE, UH, AND THAT WE ACCEPT APPLICATIONS FOR.
THERE ARE TWO THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED.
UM, THE FIRST IS THE GARLAND HEALTH FACILITIES CORPORATION.
UH, THIS ONE IS, UH, TYPICALLY BEEN, UM, THE FI FINANCE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN A LIAISON FOR, AND, UH, GOING BACK, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MATT WATSON THAT THIS GROUP HASN'T MET IN 12 YEARS.
UH, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS GROUP WAS ESTABLISHED, AND I THINK THAT PREDATES WHAT INFORMATION WE COULD FIND.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE NOT, UM, CONTINUE WITH.
UH, SO WANTED TO PUT THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION TO, UH, THE COMMITTEE.
THE SECOND ONE IS THE, UH, LAKE RAY HUBBARD APPEALS BOARD.
AND SO WHAT THIS IS, UH, THIS BOARD IS ALSO, IT'S BEEN SOME TIME SINCE IT'S MET, AND I VISITED WITH, UM, UH, ANDY HESSER ABOUT THIS ONE, UH, PRIOR.
SO, UH, AS PART OF THE, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, THERE'S, UM, AREAS ON THE LAKE, UH, LAKE RAY HUBBARD THAT WE, UM, WE MAINTAIN, AND WE HAVE SUBLEASES TOO.
SO YOU MAY SEE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE, UH, BOAT SLIPS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY MAY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SIDE OF THE WATER.
AND SO THIS BOARD SEES THOSE APPLICATIONS COME IN.
BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COME IN IN QUITE SOME TIME.
AND SO THE QUESTION TO THE BOARD WOULD BE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT ANOTHER EXISTING BOARD COULD HANDLE, OR WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE DIRECTLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL SINCE IT HAPPENS? SO, UH, RARELY.
SO WE AT LEAST WANTED TO PROPOSE THAT, UM, THIS IS A BOARD, OR BOTH OF THESE BOARDS ARE IN, IN ORDINANCE.
AND SO IF WE WERE TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT THESE GO AWAY, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, AN ORDINANCE THAT GOES, UH, ALONG WITH IT TO, TO REMOVE THESE BOARDS.
SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT, THOSE THAT QUESTIONS UP.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU, UH, YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, UNLESS YOU WANNA GET RID OF THE PARKS OR RECREATION BOARD.
UH, WE WE'RE, UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE TWO.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD APPEALS GO TO THE, UM, PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD OR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
THAT SEEMS LIKE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO SEND THEM.
I, I WROTE DOWN BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, SO I'D BE IN AGREEANCE WITH THAT.
AND THEN, UM, GARLAND HEALTH FACILITIES CORP.
AND, UH, CORP AND GARLAND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT, IT'S TOOL, IT WAS INITIALLY THE TOOL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS MY UNDERSTANDING PRIOR TO THE FOUNDATION BEING ESTABLISHED.
AND SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT GROUP HASN'T MET IN SOME, SOME TIME.
DO AWAY WITH NINE 10 WITH BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
UM, AND THEN, UM, WHEN DO WE PLAN ON ADDING THE ABILITIES BOARD LIST? THAT IS ON OUR NEXT, UH, WORK, I'M SORRY, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, THAT'S AN ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
WE HAVE THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE AND THE PRESENTATION READY TO GO, SO YES, MA'AM.
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JUST MAKING SURE WE DON'T FORGET IT.NOPE, IT'S ON, IT'S ON THE NEXT, IT'S ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
WE GOT PEOPLE BEGGING TO BE ON THAT BOARD.
JUST DON'T MENTION IT AGAIN, SHE'LL FORGET.
SO WE'LL JUST, WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THAT AND SEND IT TO COUNCIL.
THE NEXT ITEM THREE B IS UPDATE ON COUNCIL APPOINTEE EVALUATION PROCESS.
UH, IS IT, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, ITEM A.
UM, CAN WE, IS IT OKAY TO IT MAY.
UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT THE, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS REPORT TO COUNCIL.
UM, WAS THAT INCLUDED IN THE BYLAWS OR DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT SEPARATELY? THAT WAS NOT IN THE BYLAWS.
UH, WE DID SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BE IN COUNCIL POLICY, AND OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THAT START RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE EITHER A, UH, VERBAL IF THEY REQUESTED IT, OR AT A MINIMUM A, UH, A WRITTEN OKAY.
CAN I, CAN I ASK, UM, UH, WHAT THE DIFFERENCES, PUTTING IT IN COUNCIL POLICY VERSUS THE BYLAWS? I GENERAL, I GENUINELY DON'T KNOW WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD BE, BUT 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A, A DIFFERENCE.
UM, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE BYLAWS.
UM, WE WERE ATTENDING FOR IT TO GO TO POLICY, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN DO, DO EITHER.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS FEEL.
I MEAN, I, BEING ON A BOARDING COMMISSION, IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET THEM TO READ THEIR OWN BYLAWS, LET ALONE TO ADD IN FOR THEM TO SCOUR THROUGH TO SEE WHAT BOARD AND COMMISSION THINGS ARE IN OUR COUNCIL POLICY.
SO I WOULD FEEL LIKE OUR COUNCIL POLICY SHOULD STATE COUNCIL COUNSEL, WHICH THIS IS QUASI BOTH, BUT I WOULD LIKE IT IN THEIR BYLAWS, LIKE THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR COMING, THE BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR COMING TO COUNCIL, AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN BOTH, BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT GET LOST WITHIN COUNCIL POLICY IN THE EVENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TURNOVER OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO, WELL, AREN'T THEY, ARE WE SAID AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO AMEND THE BYLAWS.
IS THAT THE CONSENSUS? SO WHAT THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
WHAT WE DID, UH, SEND OUT, AND I SEE WE, THE CITY SECRETARY SENT THE NEW BYLAWS TO ALL OF THE, UM, UH, COMMITTEE LIAISONS AS WELL AS CHAIRS AND, AND STATED, THESE ARE THE NEW BYLAWS.
HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE A CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, AND PRETTY MUCH WORDED IT THAT WE, WE WERE OPT TO WANTING TO CHANGE THE BYLAWS SINCE WE WERE TRYING TO UNIFORM THEM.
BUT IF THERE WAS A CHANGE REQUESTED, IT HAD TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
I MEAN, WE, WE ADDRESS MANY THINGS IN COUNCIL POLICY REGARDING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
SO I, UM, I, I'M OKAY WITH IT BEING IN COUNCIL POLICY JUST TO AVOID HAVING TO AMEND WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SENT OUT TO THEM.
BUT I MEAN, COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I, IF I MAY, UM, IF, IF IT BRINGS YOU ASSURANCE, UM, JENNIFER AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN TRAINING OUR LIAISONS.
WE'VE GONE BACK AND REALLY STARTED TRYING TO, TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND I BELIEVE THIS GROUP HAS HELPED US, UM, GET ALIGNMENT ON THAT, ON WHAT THE, UH, ENGAGEMENT LOOKS LIKE.
AND THAT CAN BE AN ITEM THAT WE ENSURE, WHETHER IT'S IN BYLAWS OR COUNCIL POLICY, UM, THAT THE LIAISON IS, KNOWS THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, OF WORKING WITH THE CHAIR, WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE TO EITHER GET THAT VERBAL REPORT OR THE WRITTEN REPORT.
I MEAN, AND THEY HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.
LIKE, I, I DON'T QUESTION THAT AT ALL.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING CLEAN DIRECTION IN ONE, I PERSONALLY HATE HAVING TO GO AND THUMB THROUGH 50 DIFFERENT BOOKS TO FIND THE ANSWERS FOR ONE THING OR ONE TOPIC.
AND SO I WOULD JUST THINK FOR HOUSEKEEPING PURPOSES, EVERYTHING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SHOULD BE ON THEIR BYLAWS.
SO THAT, THAT WAY IF JOHN SMITH JOINS A BOARD AND HE'S LOOKING AT BYLAWS AND CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL THIS IS WHAT MY EXPECTATIONS ARE OPPOSED TO, OH, WELL LET ME GO LOOK AT THE COUNCIL POLICY AND SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL, I MEAN, 'CAUSE PEOPLE CHANGE, RIGHT? AND EVEN THE STAFF LIAISONS OPERATE VERY DIFFERENTLY FROM PERSON TO PERSON.
LIKE THE WAY THAT THE PD LIAISON OPERATES VERSUS THE WAY THAT, UM, KEVIN SLAY DOES IS VASTLY DIFFERENT.
RIGHT? AND SO I DON'T WANT TO DEPEND ON JUST ONE PERSON KNOWING THAT THAT'S THE WAY THAT
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IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO.AND THEN WE'VE GOTTA REMEMBER, OH, WELL WE HAVE A NEW LIAISON THAT HASN'T LIAISONED BEFORE.
WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW.
AND SO THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION IS I LIKE THINGS TO BE LIKE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR DUMMIES.
THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW.
THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT, THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD RUN AND OPERATE.
AND THEN THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT JUST DEPENDING ON ONE PERSON TO HOLD THE WHOLE BOARD ACCOUNTABLE.
EACH PERSON HAS THE BYLAWS SO THEY KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IN CASE THE OTHER SEVEN PEOPLE FORGET, SOMEONE THAT READ THE BYLAWS IS GONNA KNOW LIKE, HEY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MAY, I WAS NOT AT THE LAST MEETING Y'ALL HAD HERE, SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID BACK THEN.
I THINK FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT STAFF'S, UM, KIND OF DIRECTION AND GOAL HERE WAS, IS THAT TECHNICALLY THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WOULD REPORT TO Y'ALL AT THE CALL OF THE COUNCIL.
SO WHILE THE BYLAWS DIRECT WITH HOW THEY DEAL WITH THEIR OWN MEETINGS AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE THINGS INTERNALLY, THEIR REPORTING TO YOU COMES FROM THE REQUEST OF YOU.
AND SO THEREFORE, THE, THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PUT IT WOULD BE IN THE COUNCIL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES BECAUSE IT'S AT YOUR CALL THAT THEY'RE SHOWING UP HERE TO REPORT.
SO
BUT I MEAN, ALL THAT TO SAY, I THINK, I, I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING A PACKET FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS OF THE NEW LIAISONS IS GREAT.
JUST THAT PACKET NEEDS TO INCLUDE THE COUNCIL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
SO DO WE HAVE, UM, IF WE'RE PUTTING IT IN COUNCIL POLICY, I THINK WHEN MARGARET AND I TALKED ABOUT IT TOO, IT WAS LIKE, WE KIND OF WANT LIKE A QUARTERLY UPDATE OR LIKE A TIMELINE, NOT JUST LIKE A OH, GOT A WILD HERE.
LET'S HEAR WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARY BOARD HAS TO SAY, LIKE, JUST TO ENSURE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING INSTEAD OF DEPENDING ON SOMEONE TO MAKE IT AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
AM I I THINK THAT WE MADE IT AN ANNUAL REPORT.
IT WAS GOING TO BE AN ANNUAL, IF I, IF I MAY, UH, AN ANNUAL REPORT.
AND, UH, WHAT OUR INTENT WAS WAS THE CITY SECRETARY WAS GOING TO PROVIDE A DATE THAT THE, UH, EACH UM, COMMITTEE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SUBMITTING A REPORT IN SO THEY, THEY KNEW UPFRONT WHEN IT WAS DUE, WHEN THEY NEEDED TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
AND THAT WAY YOU DON'T GET 10 OF 'EM ON ONE DAY AND NONE FIRST IT'S A, THERE WOULD BE A, A SCATTERED APPROACH OF MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING THEM PERFECT.
I'M STILL MEDICATED FOR MY SIDE INJURY, SO MY BRAIN IS NOT ALWAYS SPOT ON AND I DON'T PAY ATTENTION SOMETIMES.
WELL I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT THEN.
SO THERE WILL BE A SCHEDULE THAT'S POSTED ON TWO, CORRECT? YES MA'AM.
AND, AND I CAN WORK WITH, UH, WITH JENNIFER AND COURTNEY AND WHEN WE REPORT OUT, UH, WE CAN BRING THAT SCHEDULE WITH US JUST SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS GONNA BE IN COUNCIL POLICY AND HERE'S THE SCHEDULE WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE OUT, UM, TO EVERYBODY SO THEY KNOW WHEN TO EXPECT LIBRARY OR PARKS OR ANIMAL SERVICES WHEREVER MAY.
ANY OTHER ISSUES ON THIS TOPIC?
MOVING ON TO THREE B UPDATE ON COUNCIL APPOINTEE EVALUATION PROCESS.
LET ME PEEK IN THE, SOMETIMES HE'S SITTING OUT HERE.
WE SPOKE EARLIER AND I BELIEVE YOU CC'D YOU ON HIS EMAILS, COUNCILMAN? YES, HE DID COME IN.
SO HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING'S OKAY.
I WAS THINKING IF THAT WAS HIM.
UM, I CAN PROVIDE YOU THE UPDATE THAT HE WAS LOOKING AT, UM, AT PROVIDING, UH, SO, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, IF YOU'LL RECALL, UH, THE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE NOW FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, UH, APPOINTEE EVALUATIONS WAS TO TAKE PLACE AT THE WORK SESSION NEXT WEEK, UH, AFTER REVIEW OF THE, UH, THE INFORMATION.
UH, AND ALSO THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL DAY, UH, FOR THE JUDGES TO BE ABLE TO DO, UM, A SEPARATE EVALUATION PERIOD.
THE RECOMMENDATION WAS GOING TO BE TO MOVE, UH, THE EVALUATIONS TO TWO DAYS, UM, NOVEMBER 17TH AND DECEMBER 1ST.
UH, THAT WAY IT WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, THOSE, UH, TO BE SPLIT AND IT DOESN'T MAKE FOR SO LONG OF A NIGHT FOR, FOR YOU GUYS AS WELL.
AND UH, ALSO AS A REMINDER, THE THIRD NEXT WEEK WILL BE, UH, A DOUBLE STACKED, UM, MEETING DUE TO, UM, ELECTIONS.
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WOULD'VE MADE IT FOR A LONGER DAY WITH, WITH BOTH WORK SESSION, REGULAR SESSION AND, UH, THE EVALUATIONS ON ONE, UH, ONE MEETING SESSION.SO THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE, UM, THE REQUEST TONIGHT TO, TO, TO MAKE THOSE DATES.
UH, THERE WAS ALSO A FORMAT OF THE EVALUATIONS THAT UM, UH, MIKE WAS GOING TO SHARE AND I APOLOGIZE.
UH, HE WAS GOING TO BRING THAT AND WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN MAKE SURE HE SENDS THAT TO, UH, THE CHAIR AND THAT WE SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY AS WELL.
I THINK HE WAS JUST LOOKING FOR, UH, GUIDANCE FROM, FROM THE CHAIR AND THE COMMITTEE THAT THIS IS THE FORMAT WE WANTED AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT ALL THE INFORMATION BEING IN ONE SPOT, NOT HAVING TO FLIP BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN COMPENSATION HERE, EVALUATION MATERIALS HERE.
AND I THINK HE JUST WANTED A, ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON IT BEFORE WE, WE PROCEEDED FORWARD.
BUT I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT EMAILED OUT TO, TO THE, TO THE COMMITTEE.
PHIL? UM, ARE THE JUDGES GONNA BE ON THE SEVENTH OR THE FIRST? LEMME SEE.
WHICH IPII APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION.
THAT WAS, UH, ANOTHER PART OF THE, UH, REQUEST WAS, UH, WHAT, WHICH GROUP DO WE WANT TO DO ON, ON WHICH DAYS THE JUDGES HAVE REQUESTED THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN NIGHT, RIGHT.
SO, UM, DO WE WANNA DO THEM FIRST OR DO THEM LAST? I HAVE NO PREFERENCE.
SO DO WE DO, DO THE JUDGES FIRST AND THEN THE REST OF THE UP, UM, STAFF SECOND OR DO WE DO THE STAFF FIRST AND THEN THE JUDGES? UM, I WOULD PUT THE JUDGES ON THE ONE THAT'S THE STACKED AGENDA JUST BECAUSE IT WILL, NEITHER OF 'EM ARE GONNA BE ON STACKED.
UH, THEN I HAVE NO PREFERENCE AT ALL.
IF I, IF I MAY, UH, IN VISITING WITH MIKE, SOMETHING THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL IS IF THERE ARE CHANGES ASSOCIATED, UH, WITH THE JUDGES.
I'M NOT SURE OF THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING THEY'RE GOING TO, TO REQUEST OR ASK FOR AS PART OF THEIR EVALUATION.
IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL RESEARCH OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UM, IT MAY BENEFICIAL THAT THEY GO FIRST AND THAT WAY IF THERE'S CHANGES THAT COUNSEL HAS TO VOTE ON, THAT CAN HAPPEN AT THE SECOND EVALUATION PERIOD.
BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP COORDINATE WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO
SO WE'LL DO THE JUDGES IN NOVEMBER AND THE REST OF THE STAFF IN DECEMBER.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ISSUES ON THIS ITEM?
ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, I JUST WANNA GIVE A COUPLE OF QUICK UPDATES.
IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE YOUR TEST DRIVE TO BENEFIT, UH, THE BOXING GYM TODAY.
YOU STILL GOT TWO HOURS TO GO OUT THERE AND TEST DRIVE, UM, WEST GARLAND LIBRARY.
GRAND OPENING IS THIS SATURDAY AT 10:00 AM RAIN OR SHINE.
SO COME JOIN US THERE AND AT THAT, AT FIVE 19, WE ARE ADJOURNED.