[ LEGISLATIVE PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] [00:00:10] NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020 MEETING OF THE PORTLAND CITY COUNCIL. IT IS THE TRADITION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE HAVE AN INVOCATION AND RECITAL OF THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, LED BY ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. YOU ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU SO CHOOSE, BUT YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN EITHER OR BOTH. YOUR DECISION IS STRICTLY A MATTER OF YOUR OWN CHOICE AND WILL NOT AFFECT DECISIONS TO BE MADE HERERE BY THE CITY COUNCIL. TONIGHT'S INVOCATION AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. WHETHER YOU'RE HERE IN PERSON OR TUNING IN FROM HOME, PRETENDING TO FOLD LAUNDRY WHILE SECRETLY WATCHING CITY COUNCIL DRAMA UNFOLD AS WE BEGIN OUR MEETING, LET'S TAKE A MOMENT TO PAUSE AND APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE AROUND US. THE ONES WHO SHOW UP, SPEAK UP, AND MAKE GARLAND A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE PROGRESS DOESN'T HAPPEN IN BIG LEAPS. IT HAPPENS IN SMALL STEPS AND SOMETIMES REALLY LONG MEETINGS. LET'S ALSO TAKE A MOMENT TO BE GRATEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY, GENEROSITY, AND HEART BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BOTH. SPEAKING OF GENEROSITY, I'D LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE TO MY MEET AND GREET ON AT OUR NEW LIBRARY IN WEST GARLAND ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 22ND AT 10 A.M. WE'LL BE DOING A FOOD DRIVE BENEFITING GOOD SAMARITAN, SO PLEASE BRING YOUR NONPERISHABLE FOOD ITEMS OUT. IT'LL BE A FUN, RELAXED TIME TO CHAT, CONNECT, MAYBE DEBATE FRIENDLY PLEASE AND REALLY JUST GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO PLEASE BRING SOMETHING TO SHARE. BEANS, CEREAL, PEANUT BUTTER, WHATEVER SAYS I CARE AND I CLEAN OUT MY PANTRY VOLUNTARILY. AS WE START TONIGHT, MAY WE REMEMBER WHY WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN, TO SERVE, AND TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF EVERYONE WHO CALLS GARLAND HOME. MAY OUR CONVERSATIONS BE RESPECTFUL WITH LAUGHTER AND DECISIONS MADE WITH BOTH WISDOM AND HEART. THANK YOU. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. [ Pet of the Month] GOOD EVENING AGAIN. AND TONIGHT WE JUST HAVE ONE EVENT PRIOR TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING. WE HAVE OUR PET OF THE MONTH HERE TODAY. SO. WE HAVE JOINING US TODAY. TODAY WE HAVE MIA HERE WITH US TODAY. AND MY NAME IS ALBERTO MALDONADO. I'M WITH THE GARLAND ANIMAL SERVICES. AND LIKE I SAID, MIA HERE IS OUR PET OF THE MONTH. MIA CAME IN TO THE SHELTER ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO. SHE WEIGHS AROUND 15.18 POUNDS AFTER A FULL BOWL, AND SHE CAME IN AS A STRAY. WE FOUND HER DOWN IN SOUTH GARLAND AND SHE IS HEARTWORM NEGATIVE. AND SHE'S ALSO UP TO DATE ON ALL HER VACCINES. AND SHE'S ALREADY SPAYED, AS YOU CAN SEE. AND EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN SEEING HER BEFOREHAND, SHE'S VERY CHILL. SHE'S VERY CALM. I TALKED TO HER ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WAS KIND OF CURIO, LIKE, WHY IS SHE SO CALM? AND SHE'S LIKE, I JUST DON'T HAVE TIME FOR ANY DRAMA. AND SHE SAID, AND SHE ALSO SAID THAT WITH DEALING WITH CATS, SHE DOESN'T DEAL WITH THEM. SHE JUST FOLLOWS A NOISE COMPLAINT ON THEM. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE ATTITUDE AND ENERGY THAT SHE HAS. SHE'S JUST A COUCH POTATO. SHE TAKES A LITTLE BIT TO WARM UP TO SOMEBODY. I WOULD SAY ABOUT TEN, 15 MINUTES, FIVE IF YOU GOT SOME BACON ON YOU, IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING HER OR EVEN ADOPTING HER, SHE'S UP AT THE SHELTER RIGHT NOW. 1902 STATE HIGHWAY 66. RIGHT NOW HER ADOPTION FEE IS $25. AND IT COMES WITH EVERYTHING. LIKE I SAID, MICROCHIP, UP TO DATE VACCINES AND THE SPAY AS WELL. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A NICE LITTLE LAPDOG, I GOT ONE RIGHT HERE FOR YOU. IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTO, WE HAVE A DOG RIGHT NOW THAT'S 120 POUNDS. MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER LAP DOG FOR YOU. SO PLEASE COME CHECK US OUT, GUYS. THIS WEDNESDAY, WE'RE HOSTING A FREE MICROCHIP CLINIC IN SOUTH GARLAND LIBRARY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT. AND ON THE 12TH, WE'RE HOSTING A LOW COST VACCINE WHERE YOU CAN GET RABIES, DISTEMPER, MICROCHIP, ALL FOR $10. SO IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED, PLEASE COME CHECK US OUT AND THEN COME SAY HI TO MIA, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALL. CAN I SAY WE THE RIGHT SIDE? [00:05:29] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE JOINING US STRAIGHT FROM OUR WORK SESSION [ CONSENT AGENDA] RIGHT INTO OUR REGULAR MEETING. AND WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THIS REGULAR MEETING. WE'LL START WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL ITEMS UNDER THE SECTION ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY A SINGLE MOTION OF COUNCIL WITHOUT DISCUSSION. COUNCIL HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW EACH OF THESE ITEMS AT A PREVIOUS WORK SESSION, AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE EACH ITEM. I WILL ANNOUNCE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS WELL AS ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, TO REQUEST THAT ANY ITEM BE REMOVED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. AND ALREADY I'VE HAD A REQUEST TO REMOVE ITEM FOUR. I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE OTHER ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER ONE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 21ST, 2025 REGUGULAR MEETING. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS APPROVING THE FOLLOWING BIDS TO A TAMPA PRUITT. 138 KV SWITCH STATION TERMINAL ADDITION ENGINEERING SERVICES. ADDENDUM NUMBER ONE TO BE IS EBOOKS AND AUDIOBOOKS FOR LIBRARIES TWO, C, G, P, AND L UTILITY NETWORK IMPLEMENTATION. ITEM NUMBER THREE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE FISCAL YEAR 26 COUNCIL CALENDAR. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS PULLED AND THAT IS ALL THE NUMBER. ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A REQUEST TO PULL ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM CONSENT AGENDA COUNCIL? ANY REQUESTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM FOUR, HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON TO APPROVE THE CONNT AGENDA, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER FOUR AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE? THAT ITEM IS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. MOVE ON TO CONSENT [4. Consider the Creation of an All Abilities Committee] AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, SIR. COUNCIL, ABOUT THE ALL ABILITIES COMMITTEE. I FEEL YOUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IN WORK SESSION, THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS INITIALLY REFERRED TO CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE AT THE JANUARY 6TH COUNCIL WORK SESSION, THEN WENT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE AND WAS DISCUSSED AT THREE MEETINGS THERE. THROUGH THE HELP OF COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON, WE WERE ABLE TO DEFINE WHAT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD, WOULD SERVE AS AND WHAT ITS ABILITY WOULD BE. SO LOGISTICS OF IT GOING FORWARD, THIS IS IT WOULD BE A NEWLY FORMED COMMITTEE. IT WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF ESTABLISHING A COMMITTEE AS OUR OTHER COMMITTEES. SO THERE WOULD BE AN APPLICATION PROCESS TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS, OF THIS COMMITTEE. AND IF IT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WE WOULD NOT WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT APPLICATION PROCESS. WE WOULD OPEN IT UP AS WE ARE ABLE TO WITH THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE FOR APPLICATION. THERE WOULD BE NINE NINE TOTAL MEMBERS AS PART OF THE THE COMMITTEE, AND IT WOULD BE ONE APPOINTEE FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AS WELL AS ONE FOR THE MAYOR. THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK THAT WAS RECEIVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE, AND I INCLUDED THAT IN THE PRESENTATION HERE. SO THE FIRST BULLET POINT AS IT RELATES TO THE MISSION OF THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE TO ASSIST THE CITY WITH THE USAGE OF CITY FACILITIES, AND BUILDINGS, ALSO SERVE AS A CONDUIT TO THE COMMITTEE TO ADVANCE COMMUNICATIONS ON ITEMS SUCH AS EVENTS AND CITY OPERATION, ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF ON POLICIES, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE CITY. IDENTIFY GAPS IN ACCESSIBILITY AND INCLUSION IN THE COMMUNITY. RAISE AWARENESS AND FOSTER UNDERSTANDING OF ALL OF THE ALL ABILITIES COMMUNITY, AND PROMOTE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY, SCHOOLS, NONPROFITS, AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WAS PROVIDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON, AND WAS DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MR. MAYOR. I KNOW WE DO HAVE A FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AS WELL FOR YOUR FOR YOUR VERY GOOD QUESTION FROM COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. YES, I RECALL THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVING REPRESENTATIVES FROM A, QUOTE, DISABLED COMMUNITY WITH WITH BE A SPEECH [00:10:06] SIGNAGE. AND HAND LANGUAGE. I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT I THOUGHT YOU AMENDED. WERE YOU YOUR INTENT? SURE. SO WAS TO WERE YOU WERE YOU YOUR INTENT WAS TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE? I DO RECALL THAT. COUNCIL LADY DUTTON MENTIONED THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO AMEND THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES. RESPONSE. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, I APPRECIATE THAT THAT COMMENT. I THINK ONE THING THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALL ABILITIES, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE AND AT WORK SESSION, THERE IS A DESIRE TO BE INCLUSIVE TO TO ALL ABILITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T GET THAT ADDED ON THE SLIDE AS AN INTENT. I THINK AS THE COUNCIL ACCEPT ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS FOR THE APPOINTEES FOR THIS BOARD, THEY CAN TAKE INTO INTO CONSIDERATION WHETHER THEY WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT MAY NEED TO UTILIZE SIGN LANGUAGE, OR THEY MAY HAVE LEARNING DISABILITIES, OR THEY MAY HAVE PHYSICAL IMPAIRMENTS. IT SEEMS LIKE THIS COMMITTEE WANTS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S ALL INCLUSIVE, AND THAT WILL BE UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHO THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL WILL BE. AND THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T ADD THAT IN THERE CORRECTLY, BUT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THE COMMITTEE. WELL, I WANT TO ASK, COULD YOU DO A MODIFICATION TO THE LANGUAGE THERE TO INCLUDE THOSE COMMUNITIES SO THAT SPECIFICALLY IT IT WILL WILL SAY WILL INCLUDE THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS SAID AT THE WORK SESSION AND COUNCIL LADY DUTTON EMPHASIZED TO SO THAT SUBJECT TO PRIOR TO OUR FINAL APPROVAL, THAT THAT COULD YOU GO BACK AND IS NOT THERE AND INCLUDE THOSE COMMUNITIES IN IN THAT LANGUAGE FOR OUR CONSIDERATION, SIR. DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT. AND IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS, THERE IS A RESOLUTION THAT'S IN YOUR COUNCIL PACKET THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE ALL ABILITIES COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE YOU WOULD NEED TO DEFINE ANY AND ALL GROUPS THAT WE WOULD WANT REPRESENTED WITHIN THE WITHIN THE GROUP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I RECOMMEND THAT YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER DENTON. WHILE I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT BJ, PART OF IF WE TRY TO LIST OUT EVERYONE THAT WE WANT INCLUDED AND ENCOMPASS ACCOMPANIED IN THIS COMMITTEE, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD ACTUALLY DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD. BECAUSE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID IN OUR WORK SESSION, MEETING THINGS ARE ONLY RELATIVE TO YOU THAT ARE IN YOUR REALM OF REALITY, RIGHT? SO THERE MIGHT BE SOMEONE WITH A WITH A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ABILITY THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF, AND WE DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE THEM FROM THE COMMITTEE JUST BECAUSE OF OUR BEING UNEDUCATED IN WHAT THAT ABILITY IS. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS COMMITTEE IS SO THAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE THESE DIFFERENT NEEDS CAN, CAN REALLY HELP US LEARN, RIGHT? NOT ONLY AS COUNCIL BUT AS THE CITY AS A WHOLE. SO I WOULD HATE FOR US TO DO ANYTHING TO HINDER THAT FROM HAPPENING, BECAUSE WE REALLY JUST WANT ANYONE THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT ABILITY THAT NEEDS TO BE HEARD ABOUT, LEARNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN TEACH US DIFFERENT THINGS, HOW TO BE INCLUSIVE AS A CITY. SO. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS ALLUDED TO IS THE CONVERSATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHILE WE WERE IN OUR WORK SESSION, WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE DISABILITY ASPECT, SUCH AS WHAT IS TAKING PLACE PRESENTLY. AND I WALKED IN AND SAW THAT HAPPENING. I THOUGHT IT'S ALREADY TAKING PLACE, BUT OTHERWISE THIS JUST BECOMES A COMMITTEE LIKE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE. AND IT JUST SEEMS TO ME TO BE REDUNDANT THAT IN FACT, THERE IS NO REAL REASON FOR A ALL ABILITIES UNLESS WE AT LEAST DEFINE. I'M NOT THINKING THAT BY SAYING THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO DEAL WITH SOME TYPE OF DISABILITIES THAT WE WE INCLUDE SIGN LANGUAGE OR THAT WE INCLUDE WHATEVER THE DISABILITY MAY BE. I THINK THAT IF WE DON'T AT LEAST TALK ABOUT [00:15:08] THE DISABILITY ASPECT OF IT, THEN IN FACT, WE'RE THIS IS JUST ANOTHER COMMITTEE LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE. THAT'S THE REASON THAT I ASK THAT WE INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE WHICH YOU'VE STATED IN THE WORK SESSION, REALLY DEFINED. IT CLARIFIED FOR ME THAT, HEY, THIS IS SPECIAL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY IS SAYING THAT. WE NEED THIS EXTRA COMMITTEE, BUT OTHERWISE, WHY WOULD WE EVEN DO IT? THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE COMMITTEE BYLAWS OR THEIR MISSION STATEMENT. SO AT THIS POINT, IT'S REALLY GETTING IT VOTED INTO. AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THE MISSION STATEMENT, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY WORKED ON IN COMMITTEE, THAT KIND OF OUTLINES EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN WORK SESSION. SO I DECIDE I NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR FANTASTIC SLIDE ABILITIES, BUT THIS SLIDE WAS REALLY JUST TO GIVE US A AN OVERALL GENERALIZATION OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE WAS. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, HE FEELS HAD ABOUT 54 SECONDS TO ADD TO THIS SLIDE FROM, FROM WHEN WE WERE IN OUR WORK SESSION INTO NOW. AND SO I, I THINK IF AFTER OUR WORK SESSION CONVERSATION, IF THERE'S STILL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE GOAL AND INTENT OF THE COMMITTEE IS, THEN I, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO HELP ANSWER THOSE, BUT I THINK THAT THE, THE BYLAWS AND MISSION STATEMENT AND GOALS OF THE COMMITTEE, ONCE IT'S VOTED ON AND ESTABLISHED, I THINK WILL CLEAR UP THA ASPECT. MR. MAYOR, IF I IF I MAY, IN TAGGING ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON'S STATEMENT, THE BYLAWS WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. SO AS THE COMMITTEE IS ESTABLISHED AND THEY ESTABLISH BYLAWS, ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE BYLAWS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT BY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. SO THERE MAY BE AN ABILITY TO FURTHER DEFINE THE COMMITTEE THERE. I THINK AS A COMMITTEE IS STILL IN ITS INFANCY. IF IT IS APPROVED, IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COUNCIL TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY SEE. THE BENEFIT FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO BE, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON AND DEPUTY. I'M SORRY MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK HAVE HAD A HAND IN BRINGING THIS TO COMMITTEE AS WELL AS WORK SESSION. AND SO YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL, I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL ON THE FUNCTIONS AND THE ASPECTS OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE WILL DO. PRO TEM LOOKED, I THINK ABOVE ALL THIS, THIS COMMITTEE WILL TRY TO TAKE THE IDEA OF DISABLED TO DIFFERENTLY ABLED, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. PEOPLE LIKE NOW. FOR YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FIRST BY THEIR DISABILITY. AND AND I THINK THAT OVERALL, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THIS IS A CITY OF INCLUSION, AND IT'S A CITY WHERE WE WE SEE THAT THERE ARE OTHER ABILITIES THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT MAYBE SOME OF US WHO DON'T HAVE ANY DISABILITIES DON'T SEE. SO LIKE WHEN, WHEN WE'RE MAKING WHEN WE'RE DESIGNING A NEW PARK, THIS WOULD BE THE PERFECT COMMITTEE TO GO TO BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE MANY DIFFERENT IDEAS AS TO HOW THAT PARK SHOULD BE DESIGNED. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHO WHO WE ARE SERVING AT THAT PARK, NEW, NEW, NEW MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS, THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO GET FEEDBACK ON HOW PEOPLE WILL ENTER A BUILDING AND HOW THEY WILL USE THE RESTROOM. AND AND THOSE ARE JUST NOT THINGS THAT WE THINK ABOUT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE WHEN WE HAVE ALL OF THE ADVANTAGES. AND, AND THEN I, I DARE SAY PEOPLE. ALL PEOPLE HAVE ADVANTAGES. SO I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE I'M TRYING TO DISSECT A PART OF THE POPULATION, WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS BOARD. IT'S TO MAKE EVERYONE COME TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. WE'LL GO TO PROLONG THIS THING. WE JUST MOVE RIGHT ALONG. I SEE A COUPLE OF SENTENCES HERE IDENTIFYING GAPS IN ACCESSIBILITY AND INCLUSION IN THE COMMUNITY, ADVISING THE CITY COUNCIL ON STAFF POLICIES FOR. WELL, THAT'S PRETTY [00:20:02] REGULAR, BUT I'LL JUST TAKE THAT ONE SENTENCE THERE AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. GO AHEAD. WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH IT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON, I HAPPILY MAKE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL APPROVES. ONE SECOND. WE HAVE PUBLIC SPEAKERS. YES, MA'AM. SORRY. I'M SO. I'M SO EXCITED. MY BAD. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. MARY ELLEN. MARY ELLEN, 4006 WINDSOR DRIVE, GARLAND, TEXAS, 75042. Y'ALL GOT TO HEAR FROM ME A LITTLE BIT IN THE WORK SESSION TODAY, AND I SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ALLISON, WHICH I MENTIONED IN THERE, ALLISON CAME TO ME AS A CHILD WHO WAS HER MOTHER WAS NOT MY CHILD, BUT SHE WAS ADDICTED TO DRUGS. WHEN SHE CAME OUT, SHE WAS PASSED FROM FOSTER HOME TO FOSTER HOME IN EIGHT DIFFERENT PLACEMENTS. SHE WAS SHE WAS DESIGNATED AS NONFUNCTIONAL AUTISTIC. SHE WAS GIVEN NO CHANCE. THE STATE WANTED ME TO COMMIT HER TO AN INSTITUTION BECAUSE SHE WILL NEVER. THAT'S THE CHILD THAT ROARED. THAT'S THE CHILD THAT CAME TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU'D ASKED HER IF SHE WAS DISABLED, LET ME TELL YOU, IT WAS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT CAME TO ALLISON. SHE WAS AT THIS SPECIAL NEEDS THING WHERE SHE WAS SINGING A SONG, AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TALKED TO HER ABOUT. THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. DID THEY HELP YOU WITH THAT WITH THE AMERICAN DISABILITIES ACT? OH MY GOODNESS, DON'T EVER TELL THAT CHILD SOMETHING. YOU DON'T WANT HER TO DIVE IN BECAUSE SHE DID. SHE FOUND OUT WHAT THE AMERICAN DISABILITIES ACT. AND THAT'S WHAT HAD HER SITTING HERE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT A PLAYGROUND. HOWEVER, THE OTHER THING ABOUT LITTLE MISS ALLISON IS THAT SHE DID NOT SEE HERSELF AS DISABLED. SHE WAS OTHER ABLED, AND QUITE FRANKLY, SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS BETTER THAN EVERYBODY BECAUSE SHE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESEARCH. THAT WAS HER AUTISTIC THING, WAS HOW TO RESEARCH. MAN, SHE COULD DO IT. SHE LOOKED THROUGH YOUR WHATEVER PAGE BUDGET AND SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE A LINE IN HERE FOR FIXING THAT PLAYGROUND, SO SEND THIS BACK WITH AN F OR FORGOT TO INCLUDE MY PLAYGROUND THAT YOU CAN SEE IT. IT'S ON YOUR VIDEO. BUT THAT WAS HER THING. EACH OF THESE PEOPLE COMING HERE IN PART OF THE CITY, THEY'RE NOT DISABLED. THAT'S EMBARRASSING. THAT'S DEADATION TO THEM. THERE ARE OTHER ABLED, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE. AND IF YOU'VE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOMEBODY WITH DIFFERENT DISABILITIES, AS YOU CALL THEM, THEN YOU'VE NEVER REALLY OPENED YOUR HEART, OPENED YOUR CREATIVITY, OPENED YOUR LOVE IN SUCH GREAT CAPACITY. THESE PEOPLE HAVE SO MUCH TO OFFER TO THIS CITY, AND ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS REACH BACK. THEY'RE WAITING ON YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MA'AM. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? YES WE DO. GRANT LAIRD, CHAIR. HELLO. I'VE BEEN HERE ONE TIME BEFORE, FIVE YEARS AGO, RELATED TO THE TEXT AND BEING ABLE TO TEXT 911 AND THE PROGRAM PERTAINING TO THAT FIVE YEARS AGO, AND THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AND HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. AND I'M BACK AGAIN TONIGHT. I AM HERE FROM DISTRICT SIX IN WEST GARLAND, AND I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF PROPOSING THIS AMENDMENT. IT'S THE PRIORITY FOR ACCESSIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A CITY, WE INSPIRE TO INCLUDE AND PROVIDE EQUALITY AS A FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE THAT EVERY RESIDENT DESERVES TO PARTICIPATE FULLY IN LIFE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. AS A PARENT AND HOMEOWNER WHO IS DEAF AND USES AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE ALONGSIDE ENGLISH ON A DAILY BASIS, I HAVE EXPERIENCED MANY HINDRANCES THROUGHOUT MY LIFE. WHEN I MOVED HERE TO GARLAND MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO. TO TELL YOU KIND OF BRIEFLY WHAT I EXPERIENCED, THE ADA REQUIRES THAT IT'S PROVIDED BY LEGAL AND CIVIC DUTY TO MAKE PROGRAMS ACCESSIBLE, AND IT'S CRITICAL AND A STEP FORWARD TO FULFILL THAT OBLIGATION AND TO AVOID POTENTIAL LAWSUITS AND FEDERAL ACTION. SECONDLY, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY PLANNING FOR ACCESSIBILITY NOW IS FAR MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN MAKING REACTIVE EMERGENCY. RETROFITS [00:25:09] LATER. BY INTEGRATING SO IT'LL SAVE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. IT'LL BENEFIT EVERYBODY WHEN WE FOLLOW UNIVERSAL DESIGN, ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVES. IT'S NOT JUST A NICHE ISSUE. FEATURES LIKE CAPTION, CURB CUTS, CLEAR SIGNAGE, INTERPRETERS, ACCESSIBLE WEBSITES ALL BENEFIT OLDER ADULTS. PARENTS WITH STROLLERS, STROLLERS, DELIVERY WORKERS. AND ANYONE THAT MAY EVEN ALSO HAVE LIKE A TEMPORARY INJURY. FOURTHLY. ECONOMIC DESIGN AS AN ACCESSIBILITY CITY AND A THRIVING CITY WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES THAT ARE INCLUSIVE, MORE PEOPLE CAN SHOP AT OUR STORES, WORK AT OUR BUSINESSES, VISIT ATTRACTIONS ATTRACTING NEW INVESTMENT RESIDENTS AS WELL AS VISITORS. THIS NEW PROGRAM PROVIDES A COMPREHENSIVE ROADMAP FOR ADDRESSING OUR CITY'S ACCESSIBILITY NEEDS, RANGING FROM PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING SIDEWALKS AND PARKS, TO DIGITAL ACCESS. ON OUR CITY WEBSITE, I ACKNOWLEDGE THE CITY'S POSITIVE HISTORY OF MAKING GARLAND A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, INCLUDING ADDING CAPTIONS TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS LIKE ON THE TVS THAT YOU HAVE HERE, AND NEW PROGRAMS THAT WILL PUSH THESE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NEXT ESSENTIAL LEVEL. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE YES FOR THIS PROGRAM TO FULLY INCLUDE PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. THANK YOU SIR. ONE SECOND ASK IF YOU WOULD COME BACK UP. WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCIL. WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCIL FOR YOU. IF YOU COULD COME BACK UP, SIR, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. YES. TO GET THE READERS NAME AND ADDRESS THE READERS NAME AND ADDRESS. GRANT. LAIRD, JUNIOR AND I LIVE AT 40 529 CONCORD DRIVE IN GARLAND. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. DISTRICT SIX WAS UP. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? YES WE DO. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, LINDSAY FOGLEMAN, 1330 SURREY COURT IN DISTRICT THREE. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM. I WAS LOOKING AT A LIST OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE HAVE A COMMITTEE FOR ANIMAL SERVICES. SO WE GIVE ANIMALS VOICES IN THIS CITY. ENVIRONMENTAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD. SO WE WE GIVE A VOICE TO OUR ENVIRONMENT MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION. SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONS FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS. WHY SHOULD WE NOT GIVE A VOICE TO ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE IN OUR CITY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON, I'LL GO BACK TO YOU NOW. IT'S GO TIME. IT IS ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL APPROVES. ITEM FOUR OF THE ALL ABILITIES COMMITTEE. I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL. ANY DISCUSSION? MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR ME? THAT VOTE IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. MOVE ON NOW TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE SPEAKER'S GUIDELINES FOR THEM? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IS GIVEN TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY RATHER THAN TO QUESTION THE CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF. THE CHAIR MAY CALL A SPEAKER OUT OF ORDER IF THE SPEAKER PRESENTS QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION THAT WILL UNDULY DELAY THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS AT THE MEETING, SPEAKERS SHALL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SPEAK BASIS, AS DETERMINED BY THE ORDER IN WHICH THE CITY SECRETARY RECEIVES THE SPEAKER'S INFORMATION. APPLICANTS ARE ALLOWED TEN MINUTES FOR PRESENTATIONS, AND ALL OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. [00:30:04] WHEN THE PODIUM BUZZER SOUNDS, SPEAKER MAY SEND THEIR COMMENTS. DO YOU SEE THAT? THANK YOU MA'AM AND IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK REMINDER PLEASE GO FILL A SPEAKER CARD OUT AT THE CITY [a. Consider a request by Kimley-Horn, requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for Car Wash, Automated/Rollover on property zoned Planned Development District 21-62 and 2) a Concept Plan for a Car Wash, Automated/Rollover Use. The site is located at 1540 Firewheel Parkway on a property zoned Planned Development (PD) District 21-62 for Mixed Uses in District 1.] SECRETARY. OUR FIRST ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IS HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FOLLOWING ZONING CASE. ITEM FIVE A IS. CONSIDER A REQUEST BY KIMLEY-HORN REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PROVISION FOR A CAR WASH. AUTOMATED ROLLOVER ON PROPERTY. ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 21, 62 AND TWO A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A CAR WASH AUTOMATED ROLLOVER USE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1540 FIREWHEEL PARKWAY ON A PROPERTY ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 2162 FOR MIXED USES IN DISTRICT ONE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR AN SUV FOR A CAR WASH, AUTOMATED ROLLOVER PROPERTY, ZONED PD WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL. IT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED WITH THE BASE ZONING OF CRPS. IF WE GO TO THE LAND USE CHART IN OUR COMMUNITY ZONING DISTRICT, WE'LL SEE THAT A CAR WASH AUTOMATED ROLLOVER REQUIRES AN SUV, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS IN DISTRICT ONE 1540 FIREWALL PARKWAY APPLICANT IS KIMLEY-HORN. THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 1.1 ACRES. HERE YOU SEE THE ZONING MAP. AS YOU WILL SEE, IT IS LOCATED AT THE VERY EDGE OF THE CITY, COMING OFF OF CITY OF ROWLETT, RIGHT TO THE EAST SOUTHEAST. YOU'LL SEE ON THE MAP IT SAYS S 2514. YOU MAY REMEMBER NOT TOO LONG AGO, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS A GAS STATION SUV FOR THAT LOCATION. IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. THE OPERATOR WAS CASES AND NOW THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT IS COMING TO US FOR THE CARWASH USE FOR AN SUV. WHAT'S SURROUNDING IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THIS. TO THE NORTH AND TO THEE EA WE HAVE THE BUILD TO RENT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. TO THE SOUTH, THE CITY OF ROWLETT. AND THERE IS THERE ARE A COUPLE GAS STATIONS. THERE'S ONE GAS STATION THERE OTHER THAN THE CASES THAT WE APPROVED, AND THEN TO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FARWELL, THERE ARE SEVERAL CHUNKS OF UNDEVELOPED PARCELS, BUT FURTHER WEST THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED AS A COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD, SO COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDE AREAS FOR MODERATE INCREASES IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING. SO A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE GENERAL AREA DO COMPLY WITH THAT VISION. THERE ARE BUILD TO RENT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. THERE ARE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THERE ARE A MIXTURE OF DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOUSING PRODUCTS IN THIS AREA. SO AS A GENERAL AREA, I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO FULFILL THAT COMMITMENT THAT WE HAD ESTABLISHED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS CORNER. IN PARTICULAR, STAFF DO NOT BELIEVE THIS USE MEETS THE VISION THAT WAS SET IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A CAR WASH TO BE IN THAT CORNER. HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS UNDEVELOPED SITE FROM OTHER DIRECTIONS AS WELL. HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE IN ORANGE, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE SHARED ACCESS THAT THE PROPOSED CAR WASH IS GOING TO HAVE WITH THE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE WITH THE APPROVED GAS STATION WITH CASES. SO THIS IS KIND OF SEPARATE DEVELOPMENTS. BUT WORKING IN CONJUNCTION, THE BLUE RECTANGLE THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE THAT IS THE 1900 SQUARE FOOT CAR WASH. AND THERE ARE EIGHT VACUUM BAYS THAT ARE PART OF THIS, THIS PROJECT TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE THERE ARE SOME THERE IS A CREEK. WE HAVEN'T OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN, WE HAVEN'T DUG TOO DEEP INTO THE DRAINAGE MATTERS. BUT WITH THE SITE PERMIT, IF APPROVED AND THIS PROJECT COMES WITH A SITE PERMIT, WE WILL LOOK INTO ALL OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ADVERSE DRAINAGE IMPACT. THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS FOR A MAXIMUM TIME PERIOD FOR THE SP, AND THE SVP POLICY GUIDELINE RECOMMENDS 25 TO 30 YEARS. STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS THER I DO WANT TO ELABORATE ON IT A LITTLE BIT. WE ALRDY TALKED ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS VISION OBVIOUSLY WAS NOT TO HAVE A CAR WASH IN THIS GENERAL AREA OR [00:35:04] THE LOCATION. ALSO, THIS IS A GATEWAY TO THE CITY. LITERALLY. THIS IS COMING FROM ROWLETT. THIS IS A GATEWAY. I'M NOT REALLY SURE. WE TALK ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS. RIGHT BEFORE THIS TOPIC WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT ASPECTS THE CITY IS TRYING TO LOOK AT. AND A CAR WASH IS NOT TRULY THE FIRST THING THAT WE WANT VISITORS OR SOMEONE COMING IN TO SEE COMING INTO THE CITY. SO THAT'S ANOTHER ASPECT THAT WE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DO NOT REALLY THINK IT FITS, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY IT ALSO IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO STATE THAT ONCE THE GAS STATION WAS APPROVED RIGHT NEXT TO IT, THESE LAND USES DO HAVE A TENDENCY OF COMING TOGETHER IN A CERTAIN AREA. SO WE SEE IT TIME AFTER TIME THAT ONCE A GAS STATION IS APPROVED OR HAPPENING, THE CAR WASH IS THE NEXT LAND USE THAT COMES TO THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR. THEN A MINOR AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR USE MAY COME NEXT DOOR BECAUSE THESE USES ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE CUSTOMERS AND BUSINESSES TOGETHER. SO SINCE THIS AREA OR THIS INTERSECTION DOES HAVE THAT GAS STATION APPROVED, WE DO SEE HOW HAVING THE CAR WASH MAY MAKE SENSE THERE. BUT AGAIN, WE DO WANT TO STICK TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR OUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION STILL DENIAL PLAN COMMISSION DID DISCUSS ALL OF THESE ASPECTS AT LENGTH DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND DECIDED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR 30 YEARS. WE DID SEND OUT 24 LETTERS. FROM THERE. WE GOT WE RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES. IT. THE APPLICANT DID A GREAT JOB DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, KIND OF OUTLINING HOW THEY DID OUTREACH AND HOW DID HOW THEY GOT WITH NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK TO THAT, BUT IN TERMS OF RESPONSES, WE ONLY GOT THREE RESPONSES, ONE IN FAVOR FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA, ONE IN OPPOSITION FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA, AND ONE OUTSIDE ONE OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WHILE GOING OVER THE RESPONSES FROM THE OPPOSITIONS, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE ANYTHING WRITTEN IN THE COMMENTS, BUT THE PERSON WHO WAS IN FAVOR DID. THEY DID MENTION THAT THIS AREA CURRENTLY HAS A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES, SO HAVING A CAR WASH THAT IS THAT MAY SERVE AS A FACILITY OR A SERVICE TO TO THOSE RESIDENTS. AND WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK, WILL YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP OF THE SURROUNDING YET THE THE COLORFUL ONES? YES. THAT ONE. WHAT IS THAT POOL RIGHT TO THE NORTHEAST. SORRY. YEAH. NORTH WEST OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY. IS THAT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX? I BELIEVE SO, BUT LET ME VERIFY BEFORE I SAY THAT. THAT'S YOUR HELP. IT LOOKS LIKE. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A POOL. AND, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, AT LEAST FIVE, TEN, 15, 20, MAYBE CHAIRS AROUND THE POOL FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE PLAYING TO IN THAT AREA. SO I CANNOT COMMENT ON THAT. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY CAN SEE THE CAR WASH FROM THE POOL? MR. ENGLAND I'M JUST THE ATTORNEY, SO THIS IS REALLY WAY OUT OF MY LEAGUE. BUT THAT'S THE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THAT SUBDIVISION THAT COUNCIL APPROVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. SO EVERYONE FROM THE HOUSES AROUND THIS AREA GOES THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE HAS LIKE WHAT IT IS THOUGH, SO THEY PROBABLY HAVE LIKE BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS GOING ON. I'M JUST SAYING IF I'M DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, I PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO WATCH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WASHING THEIR CARS. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WOULDN'T BE MY IDEAL VISION OF SUMMERTIME FUN, BUT I DON'T LIKE AUTO USES, SO THERE'S THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER BASS, THANK YOU. IF I IF I COULD ADDRESS MAYOR PRO TEM QUESTION SO THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS PARK HOUSE, IT IS A BUILD TO RENT COMMUNITY. SO IT'S IT'S SMALL HOMES THAT ARE RENTED. SO THEY'RE LARGER THAN APARTMENTS. THAT IS THEIR COMMUNITY CENTER. THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE TO THE TREE GROWTH. I DON'T KNOW HOW TALL THOSE TREES ARE, BUT I WOULD BE I THINK YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO SEE FROM THAT POOL TO THAT CAR WASH JUST TO ADDRESS THAT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE QUEUE TO SPEAK? THERE IS. OKAY THEN. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. YES. FIRST OF ALL, MR. I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR RECENT RECOGNITION AS A TOP 40, TOP [00:40:07] PLANNER UNDER 40 IN AMERICA. WE WE DO HAVE SOME OF THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST ON OUR STAFF, AND YOU ARE CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM IN MY OPINION. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US. YEAH. JUST LOOKING AT THIS ON GOOGLE MAPS, THOSE TREES THAT COUNCILMAN BASS TALKED ABOUT, THOSE TREES ARE FAIRLY MATURE AND I MY JUST MY ESTIMATION, YOU'RE ABOUT 20, 30 FOOT HIGH TREES AND FAIRLY DENSE. AND SO I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE FROM, FROM PARK HOUSE TO THIS FACILITY. AND WOULD THERE BE ANY OTHER KIND OF SCREENING WALL BETWEEN THAT? YES, SIR. WHEN IT'S A NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, THERE ARE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS. AND HOW TALL WOULD THAT WALL BE RIGHT NOW? 6 TO 8FT. AND THAT THAT WOULD BE MASON MASONRY. WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THEY WILL FIGURE IT OUT DURING THE SITE PERMIT PROCESS. BUT ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS MASONRY WALL. OKAY. SO SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY SCREEN IT OUT EVEN FURTHER. THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS TOO. BUT YES ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS MASONRY OKAY. OH VERY GOOD. THAT'S BECAUSE THAT WAS MY CONCERN AS WELL IS THAT HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND YOU LOOK ON GOOGLE MAPS AND YOU SEE THERE'S A LOT OF TREES, THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE.ND SO THAT I THINK THAT WOULD IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A CONCERN, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY LOOK LIKE IT ON YOUR ARTIST RENDERING MAP HERE. SO VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK FOR A REBUTTAL, I ASSUME. MR. WILL, A SCREENING WALL BLOCK PEOPLE'S VIEW WHILE THEY'RE TRAVELING ON FIREWHEEL PARKWAY OF THE AUTO USE. LIKE, SAY, SOMEBODY'S COMING TO VISIT OUR CITY FROM ROWLETT OR SOMEONE COMING FROM FURTHER OUT, MAYBE TRAVELING TO GO TO THE MALL OR. NO, THERE'S NO SCREENING REQUIREMENT ALONG THE STREETS. THERE ARE TREE REQUIREMENTS AND PLANTING REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPE BUFFER, BUT THAT IS NOT GOING TO SCREEN THE USE ITSELF. RIGHT. BUT TREES TAKE A WHILE TO GROW. I MEAN THAT'S TRUE. YEAH. THANK YOU COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS THANK YOU MAYOR. TWO QUESTIONS. 11I NOTICED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE WAS 5 TO 0. NO, SIR. LET ME VERIFY IT'S. YES, SIR. THERE WERE ONLY FIVE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ON THAT DAY, SO THERE WERE ONLY FIVE PRESENT? YES. OKAY. THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. YOU YOU, IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION SOMEWHERE IN HERE, I LOST IT, BUT YOU YOU SAY? YOU EXPLAIN THE RATIONALE FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION. WOULD YOU GO OVER THAT AGAIN FOR ME, PLEASE? SO REALLY TYING IT BACK TO T VISION THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT WAS TO HAVE COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO GENERALLY THIS AREA HAS FOLLOWED IT WITH HAVING THAT BUILD TO RENT COMMUNITY, OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FIREWHEEL. SO BASED ON THAT AND BASED ON WHAT COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE THINK MORE COMMUNITY ORIENTED USES. THAT'S NOT TRANSIENT, WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND WASHING THEIR CARS AND GOING AWAY. WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE THAT AS MORE OF A GATHERING SPACE, MAYBE RESTAURANT, SMALL SCALE, NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE THAT IS SERVING THAT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN IDEAL. BUT AGAIN, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE GAS STATION HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. SO THAT'S ANOTHER REMINDER HOW ONE APPROVED LAND USE CAN DRIVE THE FUTURE DECISIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? ALL RIGHT. GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORDYOU HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION. OKAY. WE CAN JUST SPEAK. OKAY. THANK YOU. I BRITTANY PIERCE, ADDRESS, RECREATE AND AFFECTION. I'M DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT WITH BEACH CLUB. I'M TREVOR NIEMANN, SIX FOUR, FIVE ONE RIDGE CREST DRIVE IN FORT WORTH AND I OPERATING BEACH CLUB. SO WE ARE RESPECTFULLY HERE TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR THE SUP THIS EVENING. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE SHAPED LOT, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FULLY [00:45:01] OPTIMIZE A SITE LAYOUT ON, AND IT ALSO SERVES AS AN EXCELLENT COMPLEMENTARY USE TO THE ANCILLARY ADJACENT PROPERTY OF CASEY'S CONVENIENCE STORE, WHICH IS APPROVED. WE HAVE DONE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND HAVE GARNERED AND ENGAGED AND GARNERED THE SUPPORT OF THE NEARBY CASTLE RIDGE HOA, AS WELL AS THE PARKHOUSE COMMUNITY THAT'S DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BEACH CLUB. WE'RE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN KIND OF THE STANDARD CAR WASH MODEL. WE HAVE BEEN WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE OVER 40 PLUS YEARS OF CAR WASH INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE. OUR CAR WASH EQUIPMENT IS 100% MADE IN THE UNITED STATES. AND OUR TEAM IS FULLY NORTH TEXAS BASED. WE ALSO KIND OF ARE DISTINGUISHED WITH OUR MODERN MINI TUNNEL FORMAT. SO WE ARE OUR TUNNEL IS ABOUT HALF THE SIZE OF KIND OF THOSE LARGE EXPRESS TUNNELS THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF OPTIMIZE AND USE THIS REALLY UNIQUE SHAPE LOT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A. COUNCIL COUNCILMAN ALREADY POINTED OUT. THERE IS A VERY DENSE TREE LINE THAT SEPARATES US FROM THAT PARK HOUSE DEVELOPMENT. AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE A 16 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER OFF FIREWHEEL PARKWAY AS WELL. JUST ONE FINAL NOTE IS WE ARE VERY KEEN ON ESTHETICS AND DESIGN, AND OUR WE HAVE A VERY MODERN, FRESH TUNNEL DESIGN THAT I THINK WOULD LOOK VERY NICE ON THIS CORNER. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. AND I'LL ADD TO THAT, I FEEL LIKE CAR WASH IN THE GENERAL CONVERSATION HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION HERE. PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE BIG, THEY'RE UGLY, THEY'RE REALLY BUSY. OUR CAR WASH IS LESS THAN HALF THE SIZE OF THE STANDARD EXPRESS TUNNELS THAT YOU'LL FIND TODAY. MOST OF THEM ARE 120 TO 150FT. WE HAVE A 65 FOOT TUNNEL, AND UNLIKE THE OTHERS, I WISH OUR PRESENTATION WAS HERE TO SHOW YOU TODAY. BUT WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME, EFFORT, AND RESOURCES TO MAKE THIS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. WE SPEND A LOT ON LANDSCAPING. WE SPEND A LOT ON, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE WE'VE WE'VE DONE SOUND STUDIES, WE'VE DONE TRAFFIC STUDIES, WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, REALLY TURNED OVER EVERY STONE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE. ULTIMATE, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT WITH A MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE CITY. AND I THINK OUR IMPACT IS GOING TO BE NOTHING BUT POSITIVE. WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY, PARK HOUSE, AND THEY'VE WRITTEN US A GLOWING LETTER OF SUPPORT AND RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, AS WELL AS THE HOA FROM ACROSS THE STREET. THEY'VE ALSO STRONGLY SUPPORTED US IN OUR EFFORTS. AND AS BRITTANY MENTIONED, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WE'LL HAVE CAMERAS ON SITE AND WE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD ANYONE NEED ANYTHING AT ANY POINT, WE'RE ALL REACHABLE. I'LL BE THERE. I'LL BE HELPING OUT. YOU KNOW, I'M LOCAL TO DFW. WE'RE NOT HERE TO JUST BUILD A CAR WASH, SELL IT AND LEAVE LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER MAJOR PRIVATE EQUY COMPANIES. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LOCAL MEMBERS TO DFW. AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY CARE ABOUT. AND WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS TO MAKE THIS A GREAT, IMPACTFUL PLACE THAT PEOPLE ENJOY AND, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO GET A GOOD CAR WASH FOR A GOOD PRICE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING COMMUNITY EVENTS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FUNDRAISERS FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS OR CHARITIES OR WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WE JUST WE'D LOVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO O BE A GOO NEIGHBOR AND ABLE TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF GARLAND. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, THANK YOU. MAYOR, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ONE, ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. WOULD YOU BRIEFLY DESCRIBE YOUR SCREENING SCREENING OF THIS CAR WASH, YOUR SCREENING WALLS OR HEDGES, WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO USE? CAN YOU POINT THAT OUT FOR US? IS THAT IS THAT FOR THE AGAINST THE RESIDENTIAL OR IN FRONT OF THE BAY? JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHERE WE'RE AT. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. YEAH. YOU CAN TELL ME. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S NOT A SCREENING REQUIRED. WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE CITY IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE PLAN WAS JUST TO CONSTRUCT THE THE DIVIDE ON OUR PROPERTY BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AT THE BACKSIDE WITH WHATEVER REQUIREMENT IS NEEDED. AND AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE THAT 16 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AT THE FRONT AS WELL. THAT WILL MAKE SURE PLANTED VERY NICELY AS WELL. AND THOSE ARE VERY, VERY DENSE TALL TREES IN THAT AREA. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BEFORE, YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT SEE THE CAR WASH FROM THE POOL OR THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY, GIVEN THE ELEVATIONS AND THE FOLIAGE AS IT STANDS. BUT WE'RE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE CITY AND PUTTING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SCREENING, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO SO, SO, SO THE TREES THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO ARE ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. RIGHT. MY NEXT QUESTION IS. YOU'VE YOU'VE READ THE THE [00:50:04] RECOMMENDATIONS HERE. YES, SIR. GIVE ME YOUR YOUR YOUR OPINION. GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS. HAVE YOU READ THE REPORT. YES. YES SIR. OKAY. SO SO YEAH. WE UNDERSTAND FULLY UNDERSTAND WHERE STAFF IS COMING FROM. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT AGAIN THAT WE DO HAVE THE APPROVED CASEY'S CONVENIENCE STORE THAT'S GOING IN ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. WE ALSO OWN THAT. I'M SORRY. Y'ALL ALSO ALSO OWNS IT. WE'RE COMPLETELY SEPARATE COMPANY. YEAH I'M SAYING SINCE THAT SINCE THAT CONVENIENCE STORE IS GOING IN ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, WE FEEL THAT THE CAR WASH IS AN EXCELLENT ANCILLARY USE TO THAT AND WOULD SERVE THE SAME CUSTOMER BASE THAT THE THAT THE CONVENIENCE STORE WOULD BE SERVICING AS WELL. AND THAT AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, VERY KEEN ON PURSUING THIS IS WE FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT, YOU KNOW, OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE CUSTOMER BENEFIT TO THEM TO HAVE THE CONVENIENCE STORE PLUS THE CAR WASH NEXT DOOR. YEAH. AND YOU YOU'VE GOT TWO RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS REPORT, ONE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND ONE FROM STAFF. YES SIR. COMMENT. YEAH I THINK I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT STAFF'S, YOU KNOW, ORIGINAL STANCE ON ON THE DENIAL AND KEEPING IT COMPACT RESIDENTIAL. I THINK AFTER THE APPROVAL FOR THE CASEY'S CAR WASH, IT REALLY LEAVES THIS LIMITED USE PARCEL THAT THERE ISN'T A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER USE FOR. AND WE'RE COMING IN AND WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPENDING SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK INTO PROPERTY TAX. NOW. EXCUSE ME, IS THAT YOUR FINDING OR THEIRS? YOU SAID IN YOUR STATEMENT YOU MADE YOU SAID THERE ARE NO OTHER OTHER FUTURE USES. SO HELP ME. YEAH. THAT'S FROM THAT'S FROM OUR DUE DILIGENCE. AND I MEAN JUST GIVEN THE UNIQUE SIZE AND SHAPE OF THE PARCEL AND WHERE IT STANDS, THE, THE USE CASE FOR IT IS VERY LIMITED. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO BUILD FURTHER RESIDENTIAL RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE CURRENT USE OF WHERE CASEY'S IS. AND WE JUST WE THINK WE'RE A GREAT ANCILLARY USE CASE AS THE LAND STANDS TODAY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION WITH PLANNING COMMISSION. I THINK THEY FULLY KIND OF UNDERSTOOD THE VISION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT EVERYONE IN GARLAND HAS GIVEN US TO MAKE OUR CASE, TO TRY TO BE A NEIGHBOR OF YOURS. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TALKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND 16 FOOT SCREENING AREA, WHICH DOESN'T NECESSARILY COVER UP YOUR USE. IT'S GOING TO BE A PLANTED THING, AND THE BUSHES PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO BE HIGH ENOUGH TO COVER WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THERE AND ALL THAT. THAT'S. I GET IT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU WILL HAVE TO PUT UP A WALL, EITHER MASONRY OR WOOD. MY REAL CONCERN IS WHAT YOU'RE NOT YOU ARE NOT RETAIL. YOU ARE NOT RESTAURANT. YOU ARE NOT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES THERE. THAT'S THAT'S THE CONCERN. AND IF YOU DRIVE DOWN GARLAND ROAD FROM 635 INTO THE HEART OF GARLAND, YOU PASS A LOT OF AUTO USES. AND THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN AFTER A GAS STATION WAS BUILT. AND THEN A SEPARATE, TOTALLY SEPARATE COMPANY CAME IN BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, GAS STATION, CAR WASH, GO TOGETHER, ALL THAT, I GET IT. THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT ONCE THAT STARTS, YOU BEGIN TO GET A LOT OF AUTO USES. AND IF YOU GO TO DISTRICT FIVE, YOU'LL SEE WHY THAT'S NOT GREAT. AND IF YOU DRIVE DOWN 190, YOU DON'T SEE ANY DEALERSHIPS. AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. IT'S BECAUSE COUNCIL, IN ITS INFINITE WISDOM, YEARS AGO RECOGNIZED THAT AUTO USES KIND OF HURT THE SOUTHERN DISTRICTS JUST ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE AND WE COULDN'T GET RID OF THEM. NOT THAT I'M TRYING TO PLEASE DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ME. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT ANYBODY OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FEWER CAR USES IN MY DISTRICT. AND AND IT'S IT'S JUST A WARNING TO EVERYONE THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU TIP OVER THAT FIRST DOMINO, THEY KEEP GOING. SO JUST BE CAREFUL. I UNDERSTAND, I AND I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY A FANTASTIC COMPANY. I HOPE THAT YOU'RE STILL A COMPANY IN 30 YEARS OR 20 YEARS, WHEN THE WHOLE THING NEEDS TO BE REDONE AND YOU KNOW [00:55:01] YOU'RE THERE TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND AND KEEP IT A GOOD, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING PRETTY TO LOOK AT AS PEOPLE ENTER OUR FAIR CITY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND FULLY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, NOT LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER USES AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES YOU'VE SEEN. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF GARLAND IS GOING TO BE PROUD OF. YOU'RE YOU KNOW, I HOPE WE CAN LOOK BACK IN THE FUTURE AND SAY, THANK GOODNESS WE LET THEM DO THAT. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, LUXURY ARCHITECT AND DESIGNER THAT WE'VE HIRED TO, YOU KNOW, CAREFULLY CONSTRUCT TO MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, A, A REAL WORK OF ART. YOU KNOW, WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO LANDSCAPING THE BUILDING DESIGN. IT HAS A VALKYRIE AND STYLE ROOF. I MEAN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T JUST A LITTLE BOX THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THROWING WATER AND SOAP TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT AND TURN A DOLLAR LIKE THIS IS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PRIDE. AND I REALLY THINK THIS CAN BE A. A PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OF GARLAND IS PROUD TO HAVE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, WILL INCREASE NOT ONLY PROPERTY TAXES, BUT PROPERTY VALUES AROUND IT. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY NICE HIGH END DEVELOPMENT. SURE. WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WANT TO GET TO MY HOUSE, I'M THE ONE RIGHT BY THE CAR WASH, I GET IT, I GET IT, YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. DID I HEAR YOU GUYS SAY YOU HAD A PRESENTATION? YOU JUST COULDN'T ACCESS? YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY. OKAY. COULD YOU GIVE THAT TO STAFF SO THEY CAN SEND THAT TO US? I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP US. YEAH, AND IT DOES HAVE A BEAUTIFUL RENDERING OF THE BUILDING DESIGN. IT'S A SHAME WE CAN'T SEE THAT RIGHT NOW. I, I'M LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS AND SO I CALLED UP THE ADDRESS YOU'RE PROPOSING. AND THEN I DID A SEARCH FOR NEARBY AND PUT IN CAR WASH. AND WITHIN ABOUT A MILE I SEE FIVE OTHER ONES THAT ARE LABELED CAR WASH OF SOME KIND. SO I WANT TO KNOW, DO YOU THINK YOU CAN BE COMPETITIVE WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT CLOSE? YES, SIR. AND OBVIOUSLY, AS PART OF OUR FULL DUE DILIGENCE, WE'RE VERY AWARE OF THE COMPETITION IN THE AREA. THE NEAREST EXPRESS TUNNEL, I BELIEVE, IS OVER THREE AND A HALF MILES AWAY. SO THAT WOULD BE THE TYPE OF CAR WASH THAT WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST. SO THERE MAY BE SELF SURVEYS OR A HAND WASH SERVICES. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CAR WASH SERVICE THAT WE DON'T FLAG AS COMPETITION. SO REALLY IF YOU ZOOM OUT AND LOOK AT THE EXPRESS TUNNEL MARKET, IT'S REALLY A PRETTY YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DEMAND IN THIS AREA FOR SURE FOR OUR TYPE OF SERVICE. AND THEHEN JUST JUST OE JUST ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, REITERATE THAT WE ARE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. WE ARE HYPER FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WE ARE DOING IS CONTINUING TO ENGAGE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AROUND US. AND WE PLAN TO DO FUNDRAISERS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS. SO AGAIN, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS NOT JUST TO BE ANOTHER CAR WASH. IT'S TO BE, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, SERVICE TO THE TO THIS SURROUNDING AREA. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU THAT THAT VERY MUCH. DOES I DID SEE THE ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR WROTE A LONG PARAGRAPH ABOUT HOW IT WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN THAN A PREVIOUS APPLICANT, AND WAS VERY PLEASED WITH YOUR OUTREACH AND YOUR RESPONSIVENESS. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS ARE HAVE TAKEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO CONSIDERATION AND HAVE GOT THEM ON BOARD WITH THIS. SO, YEAH, I DO SEE THAT SOME OF THESE IT'S A RACE TRACK. SO THAT'S PROBABLY A WAND WASH, WHICH IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CLIENTELE THAN THE TUNNEL WASH. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH. WE WE THINK WE KNOW WE'RE FILLING A, WE'RE FILLING A VOID HERE WHERE THIS, THIS CAR WASH IS. YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, THE CAR WASH INDUSTRY IS SET TO DOUBLE. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TWICE AS MANY CAR WASHES BY THE YEAR 2035. YOU LOOK ALL AROUND DFW. THERE'S SEVERAL WITHIN EVERY SQUARE MILE. IT'S. THIS IS A RARE AREA WHERE IT'S AS DENSELY POPULATED AS IT IS THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN EXPRESS TUNNEL LIKE MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED NEARBY. AND AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THE COMMENTS WHERE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING ONE. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M BIASED, BUT I THINK THE BEST CASE IS HAVING A BEACH CLUB. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. EXCUSE ME, COUNCIL MEMBER BASS, YOUR NAME IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST WHEN I PUSH THE BUTTON. COUNCILMEMBER BASS, THANK YOU. I'M GUESSING YOU CLEARED THE QUEUE. THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. THIS IS IN DISTRICT ONE. THIS IS ON THE BORDER OF GARLAND AND ROWLETT. AND TO STAFF'S, I DO RESPECT. I DO RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND STAFF'S DECISION OF DENIAL. AND I SAID THIS BEFORE WITH CASES YOU KNOW CALLING CALLING THIS INTERSECTION A GATEWAY TO THE CITY. IT IS IT [01:00:05] IS THE BORDER BETWEEN GARLAND AND ROWLETT. I WOULD NOT SAY THIS IS A GATEWAY TO THE CITY. THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH, CASTLE POINT. CASTLE POINT BEACH CLUB HAS MET WITH CASTLE POINT BEACH CLUB HAS MET WITH PARK HOUSE TO THE NORTH. REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GOING OUT OF YOUR WAY TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND EDUCATE THEM ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND GARNER THEIR SUPPORT. I YOU KNOW, AND I SAID THIS WITH CASES ON THE ON THE HARD CORNER THERE, RIGHT? I DON'T I DON'T FEEL AND THAT YOU KNOW, THAT AREA EVEN IF YOU COMBINED THE TWO WOULD HAVE BEEN BIG ENOUGH FOR ANY DECENT RETAIL TO GO THERE, RESTAURANT OR OTHERWISE. SO GAS STATION ON THAT CORNER IS A GREAT USE. AND JUST LIKE PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY AUTOMATED. SORRY, MY THROAT WAS REALLY DRY. AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASH IS A GREAT USE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT ON GOOGLE, BUT WHEN WHEN I RESEARCHED ON GOOGLE AUTOMATED ROLLOVER CAR WASHES NEARBY, THERE WAS NOT ONE ANYWHERE NEAR THIS. I MEAN, I WOULD SAY IT WAS YOU SAID THREE MILES AWAY. I WOULD GUESS THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY RIGHT. I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS SO FAR AWAY THAT NO ONE'S GOING TO DRIVE TO ONE, ONE FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. SO THERE REALLY IS NO COMPETITION ANYWHERE NEAR. I THINK IT'S A GREAT USE FOR THE PROPERTY. I THINK THE THE HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE NEARBY HAVE ALREADY GIVEN IT THEIR THUMBS UP, AND I GUARANTEE THEY'RE LOOKING EXCITED. THEY'RE EXCITED TO GET THAT SUBSCRIPTION GOING FOR THAT MONTHLY CAR WASH. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 30 YEARS ON THE SP. AND HOLD ON ONE SECOND. WE GOT MORE. OKAY, I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY SPEAKERS, OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. LET'S HAVE IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THIS ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP ON THIS ITEM. NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, NOW, SEND IT BACK NOW. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. FOLLOW THE RULES OF ORDER HERE. WHAT? YOU GOT SOMETHING? ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S GOING TO BE. SO THIS IS THIS, THIS, THIS PROPERTY, ALONG WITH THE BUILD TO RENT COMMUNITY. THEY'RE ALL UNDER ONE PD, PD 21 DASH 62. SO THE BASE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GDC MAY OR MAY NOT APPLY BECAUSE THE PD WAS IN THE DETAILED PLAN AREA. THERE IS A DETAILED SITE PLAN, LANDSCAPING PLAN, ALL OF THAT. SO IF THERE WERE THERE WAS A DESIRE TO ENSURE IN THE PD THERE IS A SCREENING WALL ELEVATION THAT APPLIES, BUT IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SHOW THIS. IN THIS BORDER BETWEEN THE BUILD TO RENT COMMUNITY AND THIS ONE. SO IF THERE IS A DESIRE, IT MAY NOT BE A BAD IDEA TO INCLUDE IT IN THE MOTION. WE DON'T WE DO THINK THERE IS ENOUGH TREES, MATURE GROWN TREES BETWEEN THE PROPOSED CAR WASH AND THE COMMUNITY TO SCREEN THEM. BUT BECAUSE IT CAME UP, I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO ENSURE THAT IT MAY NOT BE A BAD IDEA TO INCLUDE IT IN THE MOTION. OKAY. THANK YOU TO THAT. I'VE I'VE BEEN ON THIS SIDE. I'VE BEEN ON THIS CORNER SINCE BEFORE THEY BUILT PARK HOUSE. SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS CORNER AND WITH THE THE TOPOGRAPHY DIFFERENCE AND THE HEIGHT OF THE TREES AND THE DENSITY OF THE TREES, I DON'T THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GETTING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. SO I'M OKAY WITH THE, WITH IT THE WAY IT IS. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 30 YEAR'S P AND CONCEPT PLAN. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER BASS FOR APPROVAL OF THE S, P AND THE CONCEPT PLAN, AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCIL. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US? COUNCILMEMBER. [01:05:13] AFTER SOME SUSPENSE, THAT ITEM PASSES 6 TO 3 WITH MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS AND COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON IN OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL [b. Consider a request by Darlynn T. Troung, requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for a Personal Services Use and 2) a concept plan for a Personal Services Use. The site is located at 2241 Peggy Lane Suite B on a property zoned Community Office (CO) District in District 8.] MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM FIVE. B CONSIDER A REQUEST BY DARLENE T TRUONG REQUESTING APPROVAL OF NUMBER ONE, A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR PERSONAL SERVICES USE. AND NUMBER TWO, A CONCEPT PLAN FOR PERSONAL SERVICES USE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 2241 PEGGY LANE, SUITE B ON PROPERTY ZONED COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT IN DISTRICT EIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR PROPERTY. AS YOU MENTIONED, PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMUNITY OFFICE AND A PERSONAL SERVICE USE REQUIRES AN SUV IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT. THIS PARTICULAR PERSONAL SERVICES USE PER THE APPLICANT IS A HAIR SALON. THIS IS A DEVELOPED SITE WITH AN OFFICE CENTER TYPE BUILDING. BUT THE SUITE, SUITE B IS WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE PERSONAL SERVICE USE TO BE CONSIDERED. THAT SUITE IS 1200 SQUARE FOOT. THERE YOU SEE THE SITE IN PINK THAT IS COMMUNITY OFFICE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST. THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. TO THE NORTH IT'S MORE SF SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND TO THE EAST AND SOUTH THERE ARE MULTIFAFAMIY ZONING DISTRICT. THERE IS A BIG, HEAVILY TREED AREA TO THE NORTH OF THIS SITE THAT IS STILL VERY PROTECTED. AND ACROSS THAT THERE IS A PARKING LOT FOR. IS THAT THE NAME OF THE. IT WAS A MEDICAL HOSPITAL. IT'S A BIG FACILITY AND THERE PARKING LOT IS RIGHT SOUTH OF THAT HEAVILY TREED AREA. IF YOU LET ME SEE IF I CAN POINT. HERE. AND THEN THIS IS THE HEAVY TREE LINE THAT I'M REFERRING TO, BUT GENERALLY TO THE WEST OF THIS SITE THERE ARE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS A BUSINESS CENTER AS A DESCRIPTION. SO BUSINESS CENTERS PROVIDE A CLUSTER OF BUSINESS OFFICES AND ARE LOW IMPACT INDUSTRY, INCLUDING CAMPUS TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT CUMULATIVE EMPLOY LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING THIS OFFICE FACILITY IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED. IT HAS ONGOING BUSINESSES GOING ON. SO WE DO CONSIDER THIS PROPOSED USE TO BE COMPLEMENTING TO THAT CATEGORY. HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS. AS YOU CAN SEE 2241 THAT ISHE BUILDING. AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE PICTURES TO SEE THE PARKING LOT FACING PEGGY. THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH IS TRULY KIND OF THE AS BUILT, WHERE THE PARKING IS, WHERE THE BUILDING IS, AND THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED SUITE IS SUITE B THAT IS OUTLINED IN RED. EVEN WITH THIS USE, THERE WILL BE ENOUGH PARKING ON THE SITE, SO THERE'S NO CONCERN ABOUT THAT. APPLICANT DOES REQUEST 30 YEAR SP GUIDELINE RECOMMENDS 20 TO 30 YEARS. WE DO NOT SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS REQUEST. IT IS A HAIR SALON. IT GOES WITH THE OTHER USES THAT ARE IN THAT OFFICE BUILDING AND COULD BE A SERVICE TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR 30 YEARS. PLAN COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION WAS ALSO APPROVAL FOR 30 YEARS. WE DID SEND OUT 90 LETTERS. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES BACK. WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. ONE QUESTION IS THIS RENTAL OR PURCHASE THAT WE PURCHASING THIS THIS BUILDING? THEY'RE LEASING IT. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE APPLICANT IS LEASING THIS SUITE. IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT SHOWS. CITY ATTORNEY IS GIVING ME THE. OKAY, FORGET IT, FORGET IT THEN OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS ITEM? IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YOU COME [01:10:11] UP. GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR ANDND COUNCL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DARREN CHANG. I AM A HAIRDRESSER. 39 YEARS EXPERIENCE. I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING YOU AND ALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AGAIN TONIGHT. I TRULY APPRECIATE THE TIME AND CARE YOU ARE GIVING TO REVIEW MY REQUEST. MY SALON IS AT 2241 PEGGY LANE, SUITE B WILL BE SMALL. PEACEFUL AND WE WILL LOVE. SALON IS ONE. CHAIR, ONE. SHAMPOO BOWL, ONE MURAL. I SERVE PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS WITH DOWN SYNDROME, AUTISM, AND OTHER SPECIAL NEEDS. I TAKE TIME AND MAKE SURE EACH CLIENTT FEELS SAFE AND RESPECT AND VALUE MY OPERATE MONDAY TO FRIDAY, 10 TO 6. SATURDAY TEN FIVE. PLANNING OF PARKING AND HANDICAPPED PARKING. ALSO, THIS SALON IS IMPORTANT TO ME NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S MY DREAM, BUT BECAUSE IT'S ALLOW ME TO HELP MY COMMUNITY AND ALSO CARE FOR MY OLDER MOTHER AT THE SAME TIME. I WALK IN, I WORK CLOSELY, CLOSELY WITH THE CITY, FOLLOW EVERY REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN AND CLEAN CLIENT ENVIRONMENT ENVIRONMENT THAT FITS BEAUTIFULLY IN NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR KINDNESS AND YOUR TIME AND YOUR SUPPORT. I TRULY HONOR TO BE A PART OF. THE COMMUNITY. I BLESS YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE, THANK YOU. MADAM SECRETARY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT, SIR. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO. PROPOSE ITEM FIVE B FOR APPROVAL. I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OTT AND A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM LUK. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US? THAT ITEM IS PASSES 8 TO 1 WITH COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON IN [ CITIZEN COMMENTS] OPPOSITION. MOVE ON TO OUR CITIZEN COMMENTS. MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS ITEMS NOT ON THE MEETING AGENDA WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. HOWEVER, ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, COUNCIL IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT ON THE POSTED AGENDA. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR CITIZENS? COMMENTS? YES WE DO. WOULD YOU PLEASE. NO. SIR. IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. JASON EDDINGTON. 40, TEXAS 75 9540. IT IS A PRIVILEGE, FIRST OF ALL, TO BE HERE. I AM RUNNING FOR DISTRICT TWO TEXAS SENATE SEAT, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I WANTED TO COME HERE IS TO FIRST SPEAK ON WHY I'M RUNNING. THE FIRST IS LIES IN MATTHEW 712, WHICH IS DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOURSELF. I THINK TODAY, ESPECIALLY NOW MORE THAN EVER, WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE NEED OUR LEADERS, OUR REPRESENTATIVES, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CIVILITY IN THE WAY THAT THEY ENGAGE EACH OTHER, IN THE WAY THAT THEY TALK WITH EACH OTHER AND THE WAY THAT THEY DISAGREE. I THINK POSTERITY FOR US, WHAT WE ARE LEAVING OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS LIES IN HOW WE ENGAGE AND TREAT EACH OTHER. SO THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE IN THIS WORLD, A LOT OF TIMES LIES IN THOSE THOSE CHARACTERISTICS, THOSE TRAITS. AND ONE OF THE REASONS I'M RUNNING IS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE HOW WE CARRY [01:15:02] OURSELVES, HOW WE REPRESENT OURSELVES, THAT OUR GENERATIONS, OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS SEE THAT YOU CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITHOUT DELVING INTO DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, WITHOUT DELVING INTO CONFLICT. THE OTHER REASON I WANT TO, I WANT TO I'M RUNNING. IT LIES IN LINCOLN'S STATEMENT FOR THE PEOPLE. I SEE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS, LEADERS TALK ABOUT REPRESENTING FOR THE PEOPLE, BUT BEING A STUDENT OF LINCOLN AND ROOSEVELT, TEDDY ROOSEVELT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CAUTION AGAINST THAT IS NOT ONLY IS THAT STATEMENT INCOMPLETE, BUT IF YOU DON'T USE THE WHOLE STATEMENT, IT DOESN'T HAVE IT CHANGES THE MEANING. IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S BY THE PEOPLE. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE GOVERNING AND WHEN YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THEIR VOICE, THEIR FEEDBACK INTO THE POLICIES THAT YOU GUYS, THAT WE AS STATE LEGISLATORS, THAT REPRESENTATIVES PUSH FORWARD. SO FOR ME, THERE'S A GAP. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE WHEN STATE LEADERS DON'T ENGAGE YOUR CITY LEADERS, WHEN THEY DON'T WORK HAND IN HAND WITH CITY LEADERS, THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO FIGHT FOR AND ARGUE FOR TO REPRESENT YOUR DISTRICT, THEY NEED TO BE ADVOCATED FOR ALSO AT THE STATE LEVEL, IF THAT IS NOT HAPPENING IN THEIR VOTE IS NOT REALLY BEING BEING IT DOESN'T HAVE THE FULL WEIGHT OF IT. THEY'RE PUTTING YOU IN A POSITION TO GOVERN THEIR COMMUNITIES. YOU GUYS LIVE HERE. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED. STATE REPRESENTATIVES NEED TO TRUST WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING. YOU NEED TO TRUST THE DECISIONS YOU GUYS ARE MAKING. AND FOR THAT REASON, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A SERVANT AND STEWARD OF THE COMMUNITIES, THEY WORK WITH LOCAL LEADERS AND THAT THEY ENGAGE THEM AND THAT THE PRIORITIES THAT WE SET AT THE STATE LEVEL ARE PRIORITIES THAT YOU GUYS DETERMINE ARE NEEDED FOR YOUR FOR YOUR COUNTIES, FOR YOUR AREAS, FOR YOUR COMMUNITIES. SO I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AND MEET WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I'VE GONE AROUND TO THE CITY COUNCILS. I'VE MET WITH ABOUT A DOZEN AND A HALF MEMBERS. I'VE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT OPPORTUNITY. YOU HAVE AN ALLY IN ME, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE MOVING FORWARD THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THAT WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? YES WE DO. I'M FEELING LOVE TODAY. GOOD EVENING. YOU KNOW, I WE TALKED IN THERE EARLIER ABOUT THE THE HEALTH CARE PLAN THAT'S OR THE HEALTH STUFF THAT'S COMING UP. AND, AND I WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT. I HEAR SO MUCH ON THE INTERNET I'M VERY MISGUIDED CONVERSATION ABOUT IT'S ONLY TH AND IT'S ONLY THAT. AND MY ELDERLY GRANDMA CAN'T AFFORD THIS OR THAT. ELDERLY GRANDMA CAN'T AFFORD THE $30 CO-PAY, FOLKS, $30 CO-PAY, $3 A MONTH. LET ME THINK ON THAT A MINUTE. BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, NOBODY ASKED US TO DO THIS. I, I'M BEING FORCED TO SIGN UP FOR SOMETHING I DON'T WANT. YOU KNOW WHAT? I'VE GOT AN EXTRA TRASH CAN ON MY PROPERTY FROM THE PERSON WHO USED TO HAVE MY ELECTRIC BILL. I DIDN'T ASK FOR IT, BUT I'M BEING CHARGED FOR IT. COME ON. WHAT'S THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE. GRANDMA CAN'T AFFORD $3 A MONTH. OR IS IT THE FACT THAT GRANDMA CAN'T AFFORD $30 A MONTH AND YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY $3 A MONTH FOR GRANDMA? AND I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE BEING ASKED AROUND THE COMMUNITY, NOT THIS ILL WILLED WHATEVER THAT'S BEEN GOING OUT THERE ABOUT. THIS IS JUST TEXT AND THIS IS JUST LET ME DO. AND THEY'RE FORCING YOU. I'VE HEARD IT ALL. I'VE HEARD THE MOST UNCHRISTIAN COMMENTARY. AND I'M NOT EVEN A CHRISTIAN. BUT I THINK JESUS WAS A GREAT MAN. HE HAD SOME GREAT IDEAS, AND HIS PEOPLE FREAKING KILLED HIM BECAUSE HE SAID, WHAT A GREAT IDEA IT WAS TO BE GOOD TO ONE ANOTHER. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. WE NEED TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THERE. BE GOOD TO ONE ANOTHER. YOU'RE PAYING $3 FOR SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE. I'M NOT GOING TO. I'VE GOT INSURANCE THROUGH MY COMPANY I WORK FOR. I PROBABLY WON'T USE IT, BUT I KNOW MY SON WILL. I KNOW MISS PATSY NEXT DOOR IS GOING TO I KNOW AND AND AND SHE'S 93. TRUST ME. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS SUCH A GREAT IDEA. SHE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T HAVE A RIDE. SO WHO ARE WE REALLY GETTING UPSET ABOUT? BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAID, CITY OF GARLAND IS GOING TO CHARGE US $3 ON OUR UTILITY BILL FOR SOMETHING WE DIDN'T ASK FOR. THEN PLEASE, SOMEBODY TAKE MY GARBAGE CAN AWAY BECAUSE I'M GETTING CHARGED $5 FOR THAT ONE. NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE REAL ISSUE IS. THE REAL ISSUE IS SOMEBODY SAID, I DON'T LIKE SOMETHING. AND SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS ANGRY BECAUSE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS ANGER. EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS COMFORT. EVERYBODY [01:20:01] UNDERSTANDS. WHAT ABOUT MY WALLET? ME, MY FEELINGS, MY PERSON? I'M GOING TO PLACATE AND SAY, I'M TALKING ABOUT CHARLIE BROWN. BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. IT'S NOT THE ISSUE, FOLKS. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, AND I HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL GOES OUT THERE AND PUTS IT OUT THERE. THAT WHAT A GREAT PROGRAM THIS IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? YES, DANNY. JENNINGS, DANNY STEARNS, 6509 FALLBROOK DRIVE, GARLAND, TEXAS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SHARE MY CONCERNS WITH MD HEALTH PATHWAYS PROGRAM. THANKS AGAIN, MR. MAYOR, FOR VOTING NO ON MD HEALTH PATHWAYS PROGRAM. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MOORE, FOR VOTING NO ON MD HEALTH PATHWAYS PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO READ A SNIPPET OF COUNCILMAN MOORE'S COMMENTS HE MADE AUGUST 19TH, 2025, DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THE VOTES TOOK PLACE. COUNCILMAN MOORE SAID, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND MAYBE TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH. AND THAT WOULD BE RATHER THAN FORCING IT ON PEOPLE NEXT MONTH, THEY GET A BILL. AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE, AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW, LOOK, LOOK AROUND YOU. WE'RE HERE 240,000 PEOPLE IN THIS CITY. THERE'S NOT EVEN 1% HERE TONIGHT. THEY WON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON UNTIL IT HITS THEIR BILL. AND WHEN IT DOES HIT THEIR BILL, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIVID. THEY'RE GOING TO BE. BUT WHY SHOULD THEY BE THAT WAY? WE HAVE ENOUGH GOING ON WITH US ALREADY. TAXES, INFLATION. THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON IN OUR LIVES RIGHT NOW THAT NOBODY'S EVEN GOING TO KNOW THIS PROGRAM EXISTS UNTIL IT HITS THE BILL. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIND OUT THAT WAY. FOR THE RECORD, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MOORE AND THANK HIM FOR HIS VOTE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED WILL BE OUR ELDERLY CITIZENS. AND THAT'S JUST PLAIN WRONG. DURING THE SAME CITY COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCILMAN THOMAS ASKED DOCTOR PARROTT THIS QUESTION. SO IF 80,000 OPT OUT, THERE'S ONLY 1000 LEFT IN. YOU'RE STILL DOING IT. DOCTOR PARROT'S RESPONSE WAS, YEP. CONSIDERING MANY OF OUR ELDERLY CITIZENS ARE ON A FIXED INCOME AND WILL MOST LIKELY NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS ADDITIONAL CHARGE, AND DOCTOR PARROTT IS WILLING TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM EVEN IF THERE ARE ONLY A THOUSAND PEOPLE ENROLLED. MAYBE A REASONABLE COMPROMISE WOULD BE TO AUTOMATICALLY OPT OUT ALL OF OUR ELDERLY CITIZENS. THIS COUNCIL HAS ALREADY EXERCISED ITS POWER TO OPT PEOPLE IN. WHY NOT PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS AND OPT THEM ALL OUT? IF THEY WANT THE SERVICE, THEY CAN OPT BACK. IN A SPECIALIZED LETTER THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE WORK SESSION, SEND IT TO THE CITIZENS AND SAY YOU COULD OPT BACK IN. WE HAVE THAT DATA ON DALLAS CAD. THEY KNOW EVERYONE THAT'S 65 AND OVER THAT'S HOMESTEADED. SO THERE'S NO EXCUSE NOT TO DO THAT. SO I MADE THE SAME REQUEST ONE ON ONE. DOCTOR PARROTT AND BRIAN DAVIS INDIVIDUALLY, AFTER COUNCILWOMAN BEARD'S RECENT TOWN HALL. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HURT THEIR FINANCIAL MODEL. THEY EXPECT A LOT OF OPT OUTS ANYWAY. SO I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. RHETORICAL QUESTION, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT. WHAT IS STOPPING YOU FROM DOING THE RIGHT THING? THANK YOU. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, OUR FINAL SPEAKER, CARL SMITH? 2016 RICHARD DRIVE. I'M GOING TO DIGRESS FROM MY ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM OF GOING THROUGH THE CONTRACT, BECAUSE I HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS I WANT TO SAY. FINALLY, IN THE CITY PRESS, WE HAVE A NOTICE ABOUT TELEHEALTH. FINALLY, PROOF OF A MONEY GRAB. THE DOCTOR SAID TONIGHT HE WOULD PUSH UP THE TIMELINE TWICE IF YOU GAVE HIM MORE MONEY. WE STILL WANT TO KNOW WHO BROUGHT THIS TO THE COUNCIL AND WERE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. LOOKED AT. 2473 HOUSEHOLDS HAVE ALREADY OPTED OUT, EVEN THOUGH THEIR SO-CALLED OUTREACH HAS BARELY STARTED. AND IT'S NOT IN THEIR WORDS, IT'S NOT THEIR BUSINESS WHY I WOULD OPT OUT OR NOT OPT OUT, AND HOW MANY OF THE TEXTS AND EMAILS THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED ARE. ARE IN FAVOR OF, AND HOW MANY ARE AGAINST, IF YOU EVEN BOTHER TO RESPOND? [01:25:07] PART OF THE DUTIES OF A COUNCIL IS TO LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND BE THEIR VOICE. IT'S APPALLING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL AND MAYOR HAVE TAKEN A STANCE NOT TO RESPOND TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PROGRAM OR FEATURES OF IT. IT HAS BECOME A TIT FOR TAT OR AN ACT OF DEFIANCE, TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT TAKING PEOPLE'S RESPONSES INTO CONSIDERATION. MY UNDERSTANDING READING ABOUT ALGONQUIN, ILLINOIS, WHICH IS THE NEW PLACE THEY'VE GOT, IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY USED GARLAND TO PERSUADE ALGONQUIN TO TAKE THIS. AND IF THE PROGRAM IS SO INCREDIBLY GOOD, WHY DOESN'T MD COVER ALL THE COSTS FOR THIS PROGRAM, INCLUDING THE BEYOND THE PAST THE FIRST SIX MONTHS SINCE WE ARE GIVING THEM 400,000 TO 450,000 PER MONTH, THEY CAN AFFORD IT. AND LASTLY, I'VE GOT 48 SECONDS. GOOD. AND LASTLY, WHEN EXACTLY DO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY GET TO QUESTION THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL AT ONCE? WHEN EXACTLY DOES THAT HAPPEN? WE HAVE TO RUN TO AN EXTRA MEETING TOWN HALL BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT IN COUNCIL SESSION. WE CAN'T DO IT IN A WORK SESSION. WE JUST CAN'T TALK TO Y'ALL. AND WHEN YOU WHEN WE SEND OUT AN EMAIL OR TEXT TO Y'ALL, NONE OF Y'ALL RESPOND. SO. Y'ALL NEED TO CANCEL THIS PROGRAM. MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OPT OUT OF IT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO END UP LOSING. IT. THANK YOU. SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT? SEEIN * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.