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OKAY, COOL.

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ALRIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

IT'S TIME FOR THE MEETING TO START.

IF WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL.

IF YOU WANNA START, MARIA.

OH, UM, I'M DR.

BARAGA, UH, DISTRICT TWO, ALBA TORES, DISTRICT THREE.

CHRISTINA SEGOVIA, DISTRICT FOUR.

JIM DOBBINS, DISTRICT ONE, VICE CHAIR.

ALVIN DISTRICT SIX.

SHARONDA GREEN, DISTRICT EIGHT.

I'M BILL INGRAM.

I'M THE MAYOR'S APPOINTEE, BUT I'M ALSO IN DISTRICT THREE AND WE'VE GOT THREE NEW MEMBERS TONIGHT.

IF YOU JUST WANT TO EACH SAY HELLO AND MAYBE WHAT GOT YOU INTERESTED IN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU LADIES, YOU WANNA START? YES.

UM, WELL, I'M JUST VERY INTERESTED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE AND I FIGURED IT'D BE REALLY GOOD TO JUST CULTIVATE THE COMMUNITY I'M INVOLVED IN.

I WAS INVOLVED IN, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL CLUB IN HIGH SCHOOL AND I REALLY ENJOYED IT, SO I FIGURED I WOULD JUST DO IT ON A BIGGER SCALE.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

SO, OH, ARE YOU ALSO, NO, GO AHEAD.

WE'LL GO IN ORDER.

WE'VE ALREADY STARTED.

YOU ALREADY STARTED.

OKAY.

.

SO I'M BILL AGAIN.

UM, I HAVE SERVED ON MANY, MANY YEARS ON HOAS IN DISTRICT EIGHT AND DISTRICT THREE.

I USED TO LIVE IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

NOW I'M IN DISTRICT THREE AND ONE OF, I'M A COLLEGE PROFESSOR AT DALLAS COLLEGE.

I'VE BEEN AN EDUCATOR FOR ABOUT HALF OF MY ADULT LIFE.

THE OTHER HALF I WAS MEDIA WORKING WITH THE NBA.

SO I'M CURRENTLY WRITING WITH AJ COLE FOR THE GARLAND GAZETTE.

AND THROUGH THAT I LEARNED, UH, ABOUT THIS BOARD BECAUSE THE ENVIRONMENT IS MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

AND I HAD A FRIEND WHO WAS SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY, KEN STER.

I DID A LOT OF PROJECTS WITH HIM.

SO WHEN HE'S NOW MOVING TO ROCKWALL, HE'S LIKE, HEY, YOU OUGHT TO TALK TO DYLAN ABOUT DOING THIS.

'CAUSE IT'S MY, MY NUMBER ONE ISSUE ON ELECTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS ENVIRONMENT.

'CAUSE WITHOUT IT, WE HAVE NOTHING.

SO THAT'S WHAT LED ME TO, UH, VOLUNTEER TO BE A PART OF THIS.

AND I'M EXCITED.

, WELCOME.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

PROBABLY HAVE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT LOUDER.

UM, I'VE ACTUALLY SERVED ON A CITY BOARD COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY, UH, BUT I HAD MOVED OUT TO THE EILEEN GUAM TO PRACTICE PHARMACY FOR A COUPLE YEARS, THEN CAME BACK AND, UH, LAST TIME I KIND OF SAW DYLAN RUNNING FOR MAYOR, AND IT GOT ME INTERESTED IN WANTING TO GET BACK INVOLVED WITH THE CITY.

SO, UM, SIGNED UP AND SUBMITTED MY PAPERWORK TO THE CITY AND HERE I AM, UH, APPOINTED.

SO LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY CONTRIBUTING AND VOLUNTEERING BACK FOR THE CITY.

WELCOME.

YEAH, WELCOME.

OKAY.

FIRST ITEM IS THE, UH, CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR JUNE 11TH MEETING.

MOTION? YES.

SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION AND THEN A SECOND.

OKAY.

I SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? YES.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE, UH, CITY OF GARLAND POOL INSPECTION.

HI EVERYONE, MY NAME IS DALIA REYES.

AND I'M MADELINE.

AND WE WORK FOR, UH, AND WE WORK FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS HEALTH INSPECTORS.

AND TODAY WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL POOLS, COMMERCIAL POOLS, AND SMOKING.

OKAY.

SO HERE WE HAVE A PICTURE OF A RESIDENTIAL, UH, WHICH SHOWS THAT IT'S A STAGNANT AND WE TALK ABOUT PRETTY MUCH.

UM, ONE THING THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD KNOW IS THAT WE DO NOT INSPECT RESIDENTIAL POOLS.

I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS WERE AWARE OF THIS.

THEREFORE, POOL OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR MAINTENANCE AND SAFETY.

UH, SO THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS USEFUL TO KNOW IN CASE YOUR POOL OR SOMEONE ELSE'S POOL HAS PROBLEMS WITH STAGNANT WATER OR FENCING AS THIS IS WHAT HELPS IN PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY FROM MOSQUITOES AND DROWNING HAZARDS.

THE PURPOSE, UH, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE STOP MOSQUITOES FROM BREEDING IN STAGNANT POOLS.

UH, WE WANNA PREVENT DROWNING HAZARDS AND RESIDENTIAL POOLS AND ENCOURAGE SAFE AND WILL MAINTAIN POOLS.

UH, SO THE REASON WHY WE CARE ABOUT STAGNANT POOLS IS BECAUSE THIS IS, UH, AN IDEAL ENVIRONMENT FOR MOSQUITOES TO BREED, AND IT INCREASES THE RISK OF MOSQUITO-BORNE DISEASES.

UH, ANOTHER THING THAT WE CARE ABOUT IS DAMAGE OR MISSING POOL FENCING, WHICH CAN CAUSE DROWNING.

AND PRETTY MUCH IF YOU, UM, OR, UH, IF YOU OWN A POOL OR YOUR NEIGHBOR OWNS A POOL, IF YOU SEE THIS KIND OF PROBLEMS LIKE WITH THEIR FENCING, OR IF YOU, SOMETIMES THE FENCING IS KIND OF HIGH, BUT IF YOU HAVE LIKE THE SECOND FLOOR, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEIR POOL IS STAGNANT, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO LET US KNOW AND THEN WE CAN TAKE CARE OF

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IT.

HOW WOULD, OH, GO AHEAD.

QUESTION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

HOW, SO YOU SAID THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PRIVATE POOLS, BUT IF SOMEONE CALLS, WHAT DO YOU WELL, PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE TO DO THE INSPECTIONS, BUT IF THEY HAVE A STAGNANT, WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WE TAKE CARE OF THE, UH, MOSQUITOES AND PRETTY MUCH THE, WE TAKING, WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THE MOSQUITOES.

AND, AND ACTUALLY THAT'S OUR NEXT POINT.

THAT'S HOW WE RESPOND TO IT.

IT'LL BE, WE GET THE COMPLAINT AND WE HAVE TO RESPOND WITHIN TWO WORKING DAYS.

THIS IS IF WE HAVE A STAGNANT POOL THAT HAS PROPER FENCING.

UH, SO THE WAY WE DO IT IS WE WILL GET THERE, WE TAKE, UH, PICTURES AND WE'LL TREAT WITH LARVA SIDE, UM, AND THEN WE'LL ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.

AND THE RESIDENT HAS 15 DAYS TO FIX.

UH, THE NEXT THING WE DO IS WE WILL REINSPECT IF IT'S NOT FIXED, UH, AND THIS IS AT THE 15 DAY MARK.

IF IT'S NOT FIXED, THEN THEY HAVE, UH, 48 HOURS TO RESPOND.

AND THAT'LL BE ANOTHER NOTICE OF VIOLATION.

UM, NOW IF THEY DON'T FIX THE ISSUE, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE POOL DRAINED.

PLUS WE MIGHT GIVE A CITATION TO THE OWNER OF THE POOL.

AND SOMETIMES IT DEPENDS, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, RENTAL THAT GOES A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH CODE AS WELL.

SO WE KIND OF WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE JUST LIKE GET THIS, THIS TO THE RIGHT PERSON.

NOW THIS IS HOW WE RESPOND TO A STAGNANT POOL WITH A MISSING OR DAMAGED FENCE.

SO PRETTY MUCH IF YOU SEE THAT A FENCE, UM, IT'S MISSING OR IT'S DAMAGED, WE PRETTY MUCH HAD TO BE, UH, THERE AND WE CANNOT, UH, WE, WE RESPOND IMMEDIATELY AND WE CANNOT LET, NEVER LEFT UNATTENDED.

UH, WE MAKE A TEMPORARY FENCING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICE IN THE PREVIOUS, LIKE, UH, SLIDES, YOU KNOW, WE HAD LIKE THE ORANGE FENCE.

UM, AND THEN WE TRY TO FIX IT OR COVER THE AREA THAT IS MISSING, UH, IF THE FENCE CANNOT BE REPAIRED.

SO THE POOL WILL BE DRAINED IMMEDIATELY.

AND FENCING ISSUES ARE HANDLED AS, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, WITH CODE, UM, COMPLIANCE AS WELL.

AND SAME THING, PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF IT'S, UH, IF WE HAVE TO DO IT, THE CITY HAS TO DO IT, IT IT WILL BE A FEE FOR THE OWNER TO GET, HAVE HAVE THE DRAIN POOL.

DRAIN POOL, YEAH.

MM-HMM .

UM, OKAY.

SO FOR PROPER POOL MAINTENANCE, UH, AND SECURE FENCING HELPS PREVENT MOSQUITOES AND SAFETY HAZARDS.

IF YOU SEE A STAGNANT POOL OR A POOL WITH A MISSING OR DAMAGED FENCE, PLEASE CONTACT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND WE HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT OR YOU ALREADY HAVE IT, YOU GUYS CAN, UM, SAVE IT.

AND THEN WE TRY TO LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT WE RESPOND DEPENDING ON IF IT'S IMMEDIATELY OVER THE 40, 24 HOURS.

YEAH.

BUT IF IT'S AN IMMEDIATE, UM, WHERE IT'S LIKE THE FENCE DAMAGE, WE WILL DROP ANYTHING AND GO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

MM-HMM .

GREAT.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? MM-HMM .

THE CITATION FOR THE FIRST TICKET, HOW MUCH IS THAT CITATION? WE DON'T TAKE REALLY, UH, CARE OF THE FEES, PRETTY MUCH.

IT'S A MUNICIPAL COURT.

YEAH.

I THINK THE JUDGE SAID SIGNED.

WE'RE NOT SURE, ACTUALLY.

YEAH, WE CAN TRY TO FIND OUT AND MAYBE GET BACK TO YOU.

MM-HMM .

SO WITH THE CITATION COSTS ON THE FIRST CO, WHEN YOU FIRST FIND OUT ABOUT IT, AND YOU COME IN AND YOU RESPOND AFTER THE TWO DAYS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GIVEN A CITATION AND YOU TREAT THE ERRORS.

THEY HAVE 15 DAYS TO REPAIR THIS AFTER YOU HAVE TREATED IT.

MM-HMM .

SO THEY HAVE A CITATION, YOU HAVE TREATED IT, THEY HAVE 15 DAYS TO REPAIR IT.

IF THEY DO NOT REPAIR IT WITHIN THOSE 15 DAYS, THEY HAVE 48 HOURS MM-HMM .

FROM, AND THEN THEY GET ANOTHER CITATION.

SO SORRY, WE, WE DON'T ISSUE A CITATION ON THE FIRST NOTICE OF VIOLATION.

SO IT'S, UH, ONCE WE SEE THAT THE POOL IS STAGNANT, UM, WE JUST PUT A NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS.

SO IT'S JUST LETTING YOU KNOW YOU HAVE 15 DAYS TO, SO THAT'S NOT A CITATION.

IT WAS, IT'S NOT A CITATION.

NO.

THEN THE AFTER THE 48 HOURS IS CORRECT.

IF WE DON'T GET COMPLIANCE WITHIN THE 48 HOURS YEAH.

MM-HMM .

FROM THE 15.

FROM THE 15 DAYS, YES.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

NO, THAT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

JUST, OKAY.

AND SOMETIMES, UM, JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, IF THE RESIDENT, UM, IT'S LIKE KEEP US UPDATED AND THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, LIKE WE CAN ALWAYS, LIKE, IF WE STILL WORKING WITH 'EM TO GIVE US AN UPDATE, WE CAN KIND OF LIKE GIVE THEM MORE TIME FOR THAT.

YEAH.

WE ALWAYS WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS AS LONG AS WE GET SOME TYPE OF COMMUNICATION MM-HMM .

BECAUSE IT, SOMETIMES, IT'S USUALLY THE ELDERS WHO HAD A POOL WHEN KIDS WERE YOUNG.

AND IT IS JUST, IT'S COST EFFECTIVE.

DEFINITELY.

I'M, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET A BASE HERE ON HOW, HOW LONG DO THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY REPAIR IT OR CAN YOU FILL IT? BECAUSE USUALLY IT'S WATER IN THERE BECAUSE OF RAIN, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM .

IT WOULD BE UP TO THE OWNER, WHICHEVER THEY WANNA, UH, THEY PREFER, BUT I MEAN DEFINITELY LIKE EXACTLY OUR POINT, YOU KNOW, IF WE SEE THAT IT'S AN ELDERLY AND THEN THEY KIND OF KEEP US UPDATED, HEY, I'M NOT SURE WHEN IT'S GONNA GET DONE, BUT AS LONG AS WE GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THERE, LIKE, I MEAN, WE TRY TO LIKE GIVE THEM MORE TIME.

WE, YEAH.

WE WORK WITH THEM.

WE'LL UPDATE THE SYSTEM AND AS LONG AS THEY LET US LARVACIDE, SO WE'RE CONTROLLING THE MOSQUITO PROBLEM, THEN WE GO FROM THERE.

OKAY.

I GOT ONE MORE.

SO

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DO YOU GUYS WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD VI? UH, UM, WHAT IS IT? VITALITY.

VITALITY, RIGHT? DO YOU MET, DO YOU WORK WITH THEM? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE AN ELDERLY MM-HMM .

THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE POOL, THEN CAN NEIGHBORHOOD HELP THEM FILL THE POOL AND GET IT COVERED OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE? UH, WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, DO YOU WORK WITH THEM ON THAT? I MEAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S PROBABLY, THEY HAVE WORKED, I MEAN, US SPECIFIC, I NEVER WORKED WITH THEM, BUT I MEAN, MAYBE IN THE PAST THEY HAD, IF NOT, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK TO A DIRECTOR AND WE CAN KIND OF LIKE IMPLEMENT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, FOR NOW THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME COMMUNICATION AND WORK TOGETHER.

I CAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY ANSWER.

I CAN KIND OF ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

'CAUSE I'VE BEEN A PART OF TWO DIFFERENT VITALITY NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY GRANTS AND FOR A PRIVATE POOL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY'RE NOT GONNA COVER IT.

THEY WOULDN'T FILL IT.

NOPE.

OKAY.

PUBLIC POOL MAYBE, BUT NOT A PRIVATE POOL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL THAT WAS WHAT I HAD.

THANKS GIRLS.

THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE FIRST PART.

WHEN THERE RESPONSE TO TWO DAYS AND LARVA SIDE IS TREATED FOR THE STAGNANT WATER, IS LARVICIDE GOING TO BE BILLED TO THE RESIDENT OR IS THAT ALL PART OF THE CITY SERVICES? IT'S PART OF THE CITY SERVICE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY I'VE BEEN GETTING, GETTING ALERTS FROM SOCIAL MEDIA THAT GROW IT IN THE ROCKWELL AREA, HAVE ISSUES WITH WEST NILE.

YEAH.

SO, AND THEY STARTED FUMIGATING, AND I KNOW GARLAND IS JUST SITTING IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO CITIES.

SO WHAT IS THE CRITERIA TO START FUMIGATING IF WE DO END UP HAVING A PROBLEM? LIKE, LIKE THAT? SO WE HAVE THE MOSQUITO PROGRAM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE LIKE, UM, AND THEN I THINK YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

UH, SO WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY THAT WE CONTRACT OUT.

SO ANYTIME WE GET A POSITIVE FOR WEST N UM, THEY'LL GO TREAT THE AREA AND IT'S GRID.

I'M SORRY.

HOW OFTEN DO WE TEST? UH, WE TEST WEEKLY.

OH, WEEKLY.

YEAH.

IT'S NICE TO KNOW.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO THE SMOKING ORDINANCE? ACTUALLY, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL.

OH.

SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT COMMERCIAL POOLS IS THAT WE DO INSPECT THOSE COMMERCIAL POOLS, UH, LIKE APARTMENT COMPLEX HOTELS, MOTELS, DAYCARE CENTERS, WATER PARKS.

SO PRETTY MUCH WE DO INSPECTIONS ON ALL OF THOSE FACILITIES.

AND THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK FOR IS, UH, POOL SAFETY AND HEALTH GUIDELINES.

WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING, UH, THE RULES AND THE RULES ARE POSTED.

UH, THE RULES ARE THERE IN PLACE TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.

UM, WE LOOK INTO WATER BALANCING TO MAKE, UH, PREVENT WATERBORNE ILLNESSES LIKE E COLI AND CRYPTO.

UM, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THEY, UH, DO NOT SWIM.

IF YOU HAVE DIARRHEA, WHICH IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE RULES THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED.

AND IF YOU SEE FECAL MATTER IN THE POOL, YOU EXIT IMMEDIATELY AND NOTIFY STAFF.

AND PRETTY MUCH THESE ARE THE STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT FOR RESIDENTS TO LOOK OUT.

WE, WE DO LIKE TAKE, UM, DO THE INSPECTION AND CHECK ALL THIS STUFF.

BUT THESE ARE THE MAIN THINGS THAT IF YOU'RE LIKE A, A SWIMMING POOL, JUST LOOK OUT, LOOK OUT FOR THIS STUFF.

UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, I DO WANNA, IF YOU'RE AT THE POOL, AT THE SWIMMING POOL, YOU WANNA CHECK FOR DEPTH AND SAFETY.

UM, MARKINGS, ALWAYS READ POOL DEPTH FEED MARKS AND NO DIVING SIGNS.

UH, THIS HELPS ENSURE YOU SWIM SAFELY BASED ON YOUR ABILITIES.

IF MARKING R ARE MISSING OR UNCLEAR, NOTIFY THE STAFF AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT KNOW THE LOCATION OF THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT.

UH, LIKE EMERGENCY PHONE, QUICK RESPONSE, SAVES LIVES, UH, RAINBOW BUOY LIFE PRESERVER FOR WATER RESCUES.

AND OF COURSE, REPORT ISSUES IMMEDIATELY, LIKE BROKEN OR LOCKED GATES DAMAGE OR MISSING DRINK COVERS.

UM, THIS ONE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

LIKE IF YOU GUYS SEE THAT IT IS DAMAGE OR THAT DRINK COVER IS DAMAGE OR IS MISSING, UM, MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALSO EXIT IMMEDIATELY OF THE POOL AND NOTIFY, UH, THE STAFF AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, CLOUDY ALGAE OR UNSAFE LOOKING WATER.

UH, THIS CAN CAUSE LIKE A DROWNING HAZARD AS WELL.

AND THOSE ARE REASONS WHY WE WOULD CLOSE A COMMERCIAL POOL.

MM-HMM .

UM, SO OUR ROLE AS HEALTH DEPARTMENT INSPECT INSPECTORS.

UM, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE INSPECT ALL COMMERCIAL POOLS TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE SAFE AND CLEAN WATER.

WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS WE'RE TESTING THAT THE CHEMICALS, UM, ARE IN BALANCE.

UM, WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE WORKING LIFESAVING EQUIPMENT, THAT'S THE RING BUOY, THE POLES, THE OTHER STUFF, PROPER FENCING AND SELF-CLOSING GATES.

WE ENSURE FENCING IS, UH, NOT BROKEN OR MISSING, AND THAT ALL DOORS AND GATES ARE ABLE TO LATCH COMPLETELY.

AND WHAT SHE TALKED ABOUT, MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE, ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS CHECKED FOR SAFETY.

THAT'S THE DRAINS, THE PUMPS, AND THE LIGHTING.

UM, CAN YOU READ THAT ONE AGAIN? YEAH.

AND JUST LIKE CLEANING WILL MAINTAIN POOL SURFACE AND AMENITIES PRETTY

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MUCH, YOU KNOW, LIKE BROKEN OR DAMAGED.

LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW LIKE SOME POOLS WHEN YOU GO IN, UH, THE PLASTER FEELS KIND OF ROUGH.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALSO THEY TAKE CARE OF THAT.

UH, WE CHECK THE, UH, THE DECKS, THE TILES, THE RESTROOMS. UH, THEY MUST BE IN GOOD CONDITION AND ALL REQUIRES SAFETY SIGNS IS PRESENT TO KEEP SWIMMERS INFORMED, UH, AND SAFE.

SO PRETTY MUCH WHEN YOU, UM, AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE REPETITIVE, SO JUST PRETTY MUCH LIKE WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED TO BE AWARE AT THE STUFF THAT WE ARE CHECKING EVERY TIME THAT WE DO THE POOL INSPECTION.

UM, BUT, UH, ALL THESE THINGS THAT CAN SAVE LIVES PRETTY MUCH.

AND PRETTY MUCH OUR CLOSING MESSAGE FOR THIS IS LIKE, AS A HILL DEPARTMENT INSPECTORS, WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO CHECK ALL ASPECTS OF THE COMMERCIAL POOLS TO HELP KEEP THEM SAFE FOR SWIMMERS.

HOWEVER, POOL STAFF ARE RESPONSIBLE CONTINUOUSLY, UM, MONITORING THEIR POOLS THROUGH THE DAY.

SO PRETTY MUCH WE DO THE INSPECTIONS AND WITH, WE'RE THERE LIKE MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, REALLY DEPENDS.

BUT ALSO THE STAFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, THEIR OWN POOLS.

AND THEN TOGETHER WE CAN KEEP POOLS SAFE AND ENJOYABLE FOR EVERYONE.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMERCIAL? YEAH.

YES.

OH, MM-HMM .

YOU MENTIONED ABOUT DIFFERENT WATERBORNE ORGANISM.

SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW OFTEN DO WE TEST THE WATER AND HAVE YOU SEEN C DIFF CASES? SO PRETTY MUCH LIKE, UM, THERE'S POOL SEASON, SO WE CHECK WHEN THEY'RE BARELY FIRST GONNA START.

AND THEN WE DO LIKE AN ANNOUNCE INSPECTION AFTER, LIKE IN THE SUMMER.

UH, SO WE CHECK THE, UH, THE CHEMICALS FOR THEM AT THE FIRST INSPECTION.

AND UNTIL THEY GET ALL THEM CORRECT.

WE, I MEAN, WE KEEP COMING BACK AND WE DON'T OPEN THE POOL UNTIL THE CHEMICALS ARE CORRECT, HOWEVER, THEIR STAFF, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE, OR THE PERSON THAT IS IN CHARGE, WHICH WE CALL A CPO, A CERTIFIED POOL, UM, OPERATOR.

OPERATOR.

SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CHECKING EVERY DAY FOR THE CHEMICALS AND THEY KEEP LOGS OF THAT AND WE CHECK THOSE LOGS WHEN WE GO DO THE INSPECTIONS.

YOU C DIFF CASES, JUST IN ANY WHAT? CASTRATED CLUSTER.

DIFFICILE.

OH.

LIKE, WELL, THEY, WELL PRETTY MUCH , BUT THOSE THINGS, LIKE, PRETTY MUCH IS, UH, THEY DO DIFFERENT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TESTING.

LIKE WHEN WE SAY LIKE, I MEAN, IF YOU SEE DIARRHEA OR LIKE ANY FECAL MATTER, LIKE SWIMMING IN THE POOL, THAT'S WHEN THEY HAD TO DO THOSE TYPE OF TESTING.

LIKE WE DO THE OTHER ONES, WE WERE, THE, THE CHEMICALS THAT WE ACTUALLY CHECK, OR THE ONES HERE THAT WE CHECK, LIKE THE FREE CHLORINE, THE TOTAL CHLORINE PH CAUSING HARNESS TOTAL.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THEY CHECK DAILY PRETTY MUCH.

BUT IF ABOUT THE, THE OTHER TYPE OF, UH, BACTERIA AND STUFF LIKE, UH, THEY DO IN CASE THAT THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NORMAL.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

SO I, I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

SO, UM, THIS IS NOT DONE ALL YEAR LONG, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST SEASONAL, LIKE, SO WHEN THE POOL OPENS IS, IS, IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S A FEW POOLS THAT ARE LIKE ALL YEAR ROUND OPEN, LIKE KIND OF LIKE THE, UH, LIFETIME FITNESS, LIKE ONLY A HANDFUL.

YEAH.

BUT, UH, PRIOR TO OPENING ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL POOLS THAT, THAT'S WHEN THEY GET INSPECTED, IT'LL BE PRIOR TO OPENING, WE GO, WE SCHEDULE THAT AND THEN AN ANNOUNCE ONE AT SOME OTHER POINT.

BUT YEAH.

DURING THEIR OPENING SEASON MM-HMM .

YES.

RIGHT.

AND THEN IF A POOL IS OPEN YEAR ROUND, THEN YOU GO RANDOMLY AT ANY POINT.

YES.

RANDOM POINT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

AND SO A FEW, UH, WHERE DO WE FIND THE RULES, UH, THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ABIDE BY? POSTED ON A HUGE SIGN THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE NEXT TO THE POOL IS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT NEXT TO THE POOL.

YEAH.

ALL THE COMMERCIAL POOLS.

WELL, YEAH.

MM-HMM .

WE WON'T.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND THEN, UM, A COPY OF THE ROLES THAT YOU HAD UP THERE FOR MM-HMM .

FOR THE CITY.

WHERE DO WE FIND THAT? ON THE WEBSITE? IT SHOULD BE ON OUR WEBSITE.

I HAVE IT ON OUR WEBSITE.

WE CAN LIKE FIND IT.

IF YOU WANNA EMAIL US, WE CAN SEND YOU THAT INFORMATION.

YEAH.

, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? OH, GEEZ.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? .

SORRY.

OKAY.

AND THEN ANOTHER THING WITH THE TESTING, I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU JUST RANDOMLY TEST MM-HMM .

ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE YEAR ROUND.

AND SO THOSE WHO ARE SEASONAL MM-HMM .

DO YOU COME IN BETWEEN, BECAUSE SEASONAL CAN BE, WHAT, WHAT IS SEASONAL? MARCH TO SEPTEMBER.

IT'S, IT'S TYPICALLY MEMORIAL DAY TILL LABOR DAY.

TYPICALLY LABOR DAY.

OKAY.

BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DO OPEN THEIR POOLS IN MARCH.

SO WE'RE NOT TESTING ANYTHING MARCH, APRIL, NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO OPEN BEFORE WE DO AN INSPECTION.

NICE.

YEAH.

AND SO THEY WON'T GET THEIR PERMIT UNTIL WE PASS THAT.

IF YOU SEE A POOL THAT IT'S OPEN, DEFINITELY LET US KNOW.

YEAH.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

I NEVER KNEW THAT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS ALWAYS MARCH, BECAUSE THEY'RE OPEN BY MARCH AND APRIL.

UH, SO BECAUSE THE PERMIT, UH, GOES FROM MARCH TO MARCH, SO THEY COULD OPEN IN MARCH IF THEY WANTED TO, BUT THEY WON'T GET TO OPEN UNTIL THEY GET A PASSING INSPECTION FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT'S USUALLY AROUND MEMORIAL.

IT'S UP TO THE OPERATOR, BUT YEAH, THEY, YEAH, IT'S TYPICALLY MEMORIAL.

THAT'S WHEN WE'RE THE BUSIEST, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY SCHEDULE IT.

BUT IF THEY WANTED TO OPEN MARCH 1ST AND THEY SCHEDULE THAT WITH US, THEY, THEY COULD, WHICH THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE INSPECTION, WHICH, YEAH.

WHICH, THERE'S A FEW, A COUPLE THAT THEY'RE LIKE READY LIKE AROUND MARCH, BUT VERY FEW,

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MOST OF THEM, LIKE THEY WATER'S NOT CLOSE TO WARM ENOUGH IN MARCH.

NOT CLOSE.

EXACTLY.

NO ONE IS ACTUALLY SWIMMING LIKE DURING MARCH, BUT THEY, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME INDOOR POOLS THAT PROBABLY MAYBE THEY GET LIKE THEIR INSPECTION DONE IN MARCH.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS.

IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF THEM.

AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PERCENT COMPLIANCE AND OUR INSPECTION TO GET TO OPEN.

AND HOW WILL WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A PERMIT? IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT? THAT MEANS THEY, THEY DON'T, THEY HAVEN'T PASSED THEIR INSPECTION BY THE POOL AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIKE A SIGN AS WELL.

LIKE THE POOL IS CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC.

OKAY.

SO I'M QUESTIONING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE BEEN TO A FEW WHERE YOU DON'T SEE ANY OF THIS MM-HMM .

AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW ARE THEY GETTING AWAY WITH IT.

IF YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE, THE HOMEWORK.

SO THERE'S THREE HOTELS I KNOW THAT HAS AN INDOOR POOL THAT'S ALL ALL YEAR ROUND AND NONE OF THE INSPECTION IS POSTED IN THERE.

I DON'T SEE THE INSPECTION RULES.

I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE ANY OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IN THAT AREA.

THEY, THEY HAVE IT THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE BY THE MAIN, WE, WE TELL 'EM TO POST THEIR PERMIT LIKE BY WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT SOMETIMES.

LIKE, WE'RE NOT THERE EVERY DAY.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME PLACES THAT FOR SOME REASON THEY MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT PLACE BECAUSE LIKE THE AESTHETIC DOESN'T FIT WITH THE, UM, POOL OR THE APARTMENT OR SOMETIMES THE PERMIT FALLS.

BUT YEAH, WHEN WE, THEY GIVE US SOME EXCUSE, I'M LIKE, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S LIKE I TELL 'EM, HEY, THIS IS KIND OF, YOU GRADUATED, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA HAVE YOUR CERTIFICATE OR YOUR DIPLOMA RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

SO, BUT I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE THEY JUST LIKE, BECAUSE OF THE RULES THAT THEY HAVE, UM, WITH THE WHOLE CORPORATION STUFF GOING ON, THEY DECIDE ON TO, SO I MEAN, YEAH.

BUT IF YOU EVER HAVE A QUESTION WHETHER THEY'RE PERMITTED OR NOT, JUST GIVE US A CALL AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AND THEN WE'LL GO CHECK THEM OUT TOO.

MM-HMM .

ALRIGHT.

PERFECT.

I HAD A QUESTION.

OR HOA HAS A SWIMMING POOL AND THEY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE PLASTERING, WHICH THEY'VE, EVIDENTLY, I'M NOT COMPLETELY CLEAR ON WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE PLASTERING DOES, OTHER THAN IT MAKES EVERYTHING LOOK, LOOK NICE, BUT I GUESS A, WHAT'S THE ISSUE BEHIND THAT? AND B, THEY ENDED UP BASICALLY DOING LIKE A ONE YEAR FIX, BUT THEY STILL NEED TO GO IN AND GET THE WHOLE THING REDONE.

AND THAT CREATED A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE 'CAUSE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT.

SO THAT WAS A WHOLE NOTHER BIG ARGUMENT.

BUT COULD YOU, UH, TALK ABOUT THE PLASTERING ISSUE? YES.

PRETTY MUCH.

LIKE, HAVE YOU SWIM IN A POOL THAT THE PLASTER FEELS LIKE IT'S LIKE DAMAGED ALREADY? HAVE YOU GUYS ANY, YEAH.

OKAY.

HOW DOES IT FEEL? IT'S ROUGH AND IT, AND YOUR FEET KIND OF HURT.

SO LIKE, I MEAN, IMAGINE LIKE, UH, A KID, YOU KNOW, LIKE SWIMMING IN THE POOL BECAUSE MOST OF THIS, UM, FACILITIES OF SWIMMING POOLS, THEY'RE LIKE, KIDS ARE GONNA BE PRETTY MUCH, THERE'S LIKE THE HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF WHO'S GONNA BE SWIMMING AT THE POOL'S, KIDS.

SO THIS COULD BE LIKE, HARMFUL FOR THEM.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THAT THEY'RE SAFE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY DON'T HURT, GET HURT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

HOWEVER, ALSO, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMETIMES WITH, IT'S HARD TO SEE BECAUSE OF THE WATER, AND IF IT'S DAMAGED, IT CAN BE SOME CRACKS AND THERE THAT IT CAN LEAD TO LEAKING.

AND BIGGER PROBLEMS COME AFTER THAT.

, THEY KIND, THEY'LL JUST LEAVE TO THE, UH, PLASTERING ISSUE, BUT DIDN'T DO ANY EX EXPLAINING WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT.

SO.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN, WE CAN START LOOKING INTO MAYBE ADDING EXPLANATION IF THAT THAT'LL BE HELPFUL FOR REPORTS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE REMEMBER IF THIS WATER LEAKS OUTSIDE AND THE GROUND, IT'S LIKE CHEMICALS LIKE LEACHING ALREADY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, UH, HAVE A LAST QUESTION.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO CLASSIFYING COMMERCIAL POOLS, NOW, WOULD THAT BE ALL THE PRIVATE BUSINESSES, LIKE SUCH AS HOTELS, LODGINGS THAT HAVE THE POOLS? OR DOES IT INCLUDE APARTMENTS, APARTMENT AS WELL? YEAH.

APARTMENT COMPLEX.

SO YEAH, APARTMENTS.

HOTELS, YEAH.

UM, WELL I GUESS I CHOSE YEAH, WATER PARKS AS WELL.

WATER, YEAH.

LIKE HAWAIIAN FULL OR HAWAIIAN WATERS.

YEAH.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? DOES IT INCLUDE OUR PUBLIC POOLS? YEAH, BUT THAT'S, YEAH, WE, WE ALSO, YEAH, IT'S SAME.

YEAH, SAME RULES.

ANYTHING THAT'S NOT IN SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS GUYS? IF Y'ALL WERE DONE WITH THE POOLS, YOU CAN GO ONTO THE SMOKING.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S THE LAST THING WE HAVE.

PERFECT.

THAT'S ALL.

SO PRETTY MUCH FOR THE SMOKING ORDINANCE.

UM, SO ALL PLACES YOU SHOULDN'T SMOKE, LIKE, BECAUSE ALL THE PLACES ARE PROHIBITED.

LIKE, UNLESS THEY HAVE A GRANDFATHER AND YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S A GRANDFATHER MEANS.

SO PRETTY MUCH EVERY PLACE IS PROHIBITED UNLESS YOU HAVE A GRANDFATHER.

AND PRETTY MUCH WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE GIVE THIS, UM, SIGNS TO ALL THE RESTAURANTS, UH, ALL THE DAYCARES EVERYWHERE THAT YOU HAVE THIS OUTSIDE THE WINDOWS OR THEIR DOORS OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT SIGN, BUT WE PROVIDE IT FOR THEM IF THEY NEED IT.

YEAH, WE PROVIDE IT.

I MEAN, OF COURSE IN LIKE, UH, ALSO THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN READ THAT, BUT THERE'S THE ONLY TWO PLACES THAT WE KNOW ALREADY THAT THEY'VE BEEN GRANDFATHERED FOR THE SMOKING.

IT'S, UH, SCOOTERS AND EVEN ERS PRETTY MUCH.

THOSE ARE THE TWO PLACES SO FAR.

AND THEN, YEAH,

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NO OTHER PLACES.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, 'CAUSE I KNOW SCOOTERS, .

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

I DON'T GO IN THERE BECAUSE OF THAT.

YEAH.

BUT IF THE, THEY EVER CHANGE OWNERSHIP NO MORE.

YEAH, GO ON.

MM.

BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DO IT, BUT, OKAY, SO , I'M A LITTLE WORRIED.

YEAH, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ANY, DO YOU DON KNOW ONE ? YEAH.

TELL US.

I MEAN, THERE'S PLACES THAT THEY DO IT ON WALNUT STREET.

SO LIKE, IF YOU GUYS SEE LIKE, I MEAN A HOOKAH BAR, LIKE AHU BAR, LIKE, SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED HERE.

I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING IT ILLEGALLY.

UH, HERE IS, WE HAVE A PICTURE OF A PLACE ON WALNUT STREET, UM, THAT THEY WERE HAVING AT THE HOOKAH.

AND THEN WE OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL US AND WE WENT THERE, WE TOOK A PICTURE JUST TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO RECORD EVERYTHING.

SO NOT EVEN HOOKAH BARS? MM-HMM.

NO, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED IN DRAWN.

THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED HERE.

SO IF YOU SEE, I MEAN, EVEN MYSELF, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS UNTIL LIKE WE HAVE THIS, UM, COMPLAINT.

WHERE'S THE LINE DRAWN BETWEEN SMOKING AND VAPING NOWADAYS? NO.

LINE.

IT'S THE SAME THING.

EVEN TWO AND TOBACCO, UH, IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE CITY.

UM, PREMISES.

YEAH.

WHERE CAN YOU REQUEST THE SIGNS? THE NO SMOKING SIGNS? WE HAVE IT ON OUR WEBSITE.

ON THE WEBSITE? MM-HMM .

AND SO IF THEY, IF WE SEE THAT THEY, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DISPLAY THIS ON THEIR WINDOWS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE MM-HMM .

YEAH.

ALL BUSINESS THIS ARE SIMILAR YES.

AS ALL COMMERCIAL BUSINESS LIKE THIS? YEAH.

YEAH.

ALL COMMERCIAL.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

IF WE DON'T SEE THIS, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? WE CALL YOU.

YOU CAN CALL US.

CALL US.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WE DO, UH, DURING THE INSPECTIONS WE MARK THIS IF THEY'RE MISSING.

SO, UM, THEY SHOULD HAVE IT, BUT SOMETIMES, LIKE I SAID, FOR SOME REASON, THEY DECIDE TO REMOVE IT FROM THEIR WINDOWS REPORT AND WE EMAIL IT TO THE, TO THE OWNERS AND THE MM-HMM .

YEAH.

WHEN WE GO DO OUR INSPECTIONS MM-HMM .

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, SO SMOKING ON THE OUTSIDE, IF THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA, IS THAT ALLOWED? LIKE SAY YOU GO INTO A BAR AND THEY'RE LIKE, THE PATIO IS DESIGNATED SMOKING.

IS THAT ALLOWED OR IS THAT NOT ALLOWED? WHAT I LEARNED TODAY? UH, OKAY.

TELL ME.

PATIOS ARE NOT ALLOWED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I MEAN, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE 25 FEET FROM THE ENTRANCE EXIT, LIKE WINDOWS, LIKE STUFF LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, KIND OF LIKE, BUT NO, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

LEMME SAY, I THINK I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

CALORIES.

I SAW IT TODAY ON THE ORDINANCE AND WE CAN SEND YOU GUYS A LINK FOR THAT.

YOU KNOW, LIKE A FALL.

AND I THINK THE SIGNED HAS IT TOO.

MM-HMM .

LET ME SEE.

YEAH, THE SIGN DOES RIGHT THERE.

MM-HMM .

25 FEET.

PERFECT.

INTERESTING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

SO ALL THOSE HOUSES, THEY WERE SMOKING ON THAT PATIO.

I KNOW.

MM-HMM .

I KNOW.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT NOW.

.

WELL, OKAY, I GOT ONE NOW.

I GOT ONE.

I BET YOU CAN'T ANSWER.

TELL US IF IT'S A ROOFTOP.

IS THAT 25 FEET? OH, OOH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT.

WELL EVEN COVER GARAGE.

THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SMOKING, SO, AND, AND I SEEN PEOPLE SMOKING IN THE GARAGE, SO LIKE, I MEAN WOW.

MM-HMM .

SO I'M PRETTY, I DON'T THINK IT'S, UM, I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE LIKE SMOKING AT THEIR, AND YOU GUYS GONNA SEE LIKE A LOT OF THE STUFF IN MAYBE DALLAS, YOU KNOW, LIKE YEAH.

BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE REMEMBER THERE'S SMALL, THE BIGGER CITIES, LIKE WE'RE SMALLER CITIES OR SOMETHING.

MAYBE.

I DON'T KNOW ANY RULES, BUT, BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE ROOFTOP THOUGH.

CAN THEY SMOKE? DON'T WORRY.

WE, WE TRY TO DO RESEARCH AND WE GET BACK AT YOU.

WE'LL, THERE'S LOOP HOLES, BUT YEAH.

I DON'T, LET ME, LET'S, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT.

TECHNICALLY THAT'S NOT A 25 FEET AND FROM THE INTEREST THAT'S ON THE ROOF.

OH, THAT'S ON THE ROOF.

YEAH, YOU'RE, YEAH.

THAT'S SOMETHING.

YEAH, THAT'S MY THING.

WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT.

YEAH.

, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, THANKS FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU.

THAT WAS VERY, I DO NOTE AND WE CAN EMAIL THE PRESENTATION TO YOU GUYS SO YOU HAVE IT.

DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY WANT THAT.

THANK YOU.

ILL SHARE THIS INFORMATION.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS WITH THE, UH, GARLAND STREETS DEPARTMENT.

WORK FOR ME.

FIRST .

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE HOW I GOTTA GET IT CLOSE.

OKAY.

ABOUT THERE.

UH, UH, ANYWAYS, I AM TGE.

I'M WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND STREET DEPARTMENT.

UH, I AM THE SENIOR, SENIOR CIVIL ENGINEER THERE.

I'M IN CHARGE OF THE SIDEWALK PARTICIPATION PROGRAM.

I HAVE TO EMPHASIZE, I ONLY DEAL WITH SIDEWALK PARTICIPATION.

I DON'T DEAL WITH MISSING SIDEWALK.

I DON'T DEAL WITH HAZARDOUS SIDEWALK OR HAZARDOUS ROUTES OR ANY OF THAT

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STUFF.

OR A DA RAMPS.

I ONLY DEAL WITH THE PARTICIPATION PROGRAM 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE GET CONFUSED AND ASK ME QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEYOND THE PROGRAM I DEAL WITH.

SO, TO START OFF AGAIN, UH, STREET DEPARTMENT, UM, THE CITY DOES HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

IT IS, UH, WITHIN THE ORDINANCE, IT IS, UH, FOR ALL THESE VARIOUS DIFFERENT ISSUES YOU GOT WHERE TREE ROOTS ARE PUSHING UP SIDEWALK.

YOU GOT WHERE IT SUNK, WHERE IT'S FELL, WHERE IT'S TWISTED, IT'S CRUMBLED.

IT DIDN'T HAVE PROPER REINFORCEMENT.

IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THESE AREAS, THEN YOU JUST DON'T GO OUTSIDE MUCH IN GARLAND.

'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL ROUND.

YES, THEY ARE.

UM, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS GEARED IS, AND I GOTTA BE VERY SPECIFIC ON THIS.

SO THE PARTICIPATION PROGRAM IS SET UP THAT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER CAN RECEIVE, UH, 50% BUY-IN FOR THE PARTICIPATION WHERE THE CITY PAYS HALF AND, AND THE RESIDENT PAYS HALF.

THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL CLAUSES IN THERE THAT ALLOW 'EM TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL DISCOUNTS.

BUT IT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE HOMESTEAD.

IT HAS TO DEAL WITH CBDG LOCATIONS.

IT HAS TO DEAL WITH AGE VETERAN STATUS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

AND THEY CAN GET UP TO A 90% REDUCTION, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE TO PAY AT LEAST 10%.

THERE HAS TO BE SOME BUY-IN IN ORDER FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE.

UH, FOR NON-RES RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UH, SUCH AS BUSINESSES, UH, THEY RECEIVE, UH, ONLY A 10% PARTICIPATION WHERE THE CITY WILL PAY 10% IN THE BUSINESS.

OWNER PAYS, UH, 90% OF THE COST.

NOW I NEED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ON ONE THING.

SCHOOLS DO NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDING FROM US.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICIPATION.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, SET UP.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FINANCIAL SET UP FOR THEIR REPLACEMENT.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF SIDEWALKS ARE ADJACENT TO SCHOOLS.

WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE ONE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET AND AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL.

BUT IF IT'S RUNNING PARALLEL OR ADJACENT OR IF IT'S RUNNING ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, WE CANNOT TOUCH IT.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SO AGAIN, HERE ARE SOME OF THE DISCOUNTS THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE.

AGAIN, WITH ALL THE DISCOUNTS TOGETHER.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION, THEY CAN GET UP TO A FULL 90% REDUCTION.

UM, THE CITY ASSUMES THE REPAIR OF MAJOR SIDEWALK DEFICIENCIES ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OR SUBDIVISIONS ALONG A COLLECTOR OR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

SO YOU THINK OF, UH, CENTERVILLE MILLER ROAD, UH, SHILOH, UH, GARLAND ROAD, IF IT'S ADJACENT TO A LARGER ARTERIAL COLLECTOR ROADWAY, THAT'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

THE CITY ITSELF, WE DO TAKE UP THOSE COSTS, BUT WITHIN THE ORDINANCE, WE ALWAYS SPECIFY TO THE RESIDENTS AS LONG AS WE HAVE REMAINING FUNDING FOR THE YEAR.

'CAUSE THE REF, THE FUNDING GETS RE-UPPED EVERY JANUARY.

SO ANYTHING THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT THE YEAR BEFORE, IF WE PUT ON A LIST AND WE GET THEM THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

UM, AND I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT SCHOOLS, I I'M JUMPING TOO MUCH.

UH, EASIEST WAY FOR RESIDENTS TO CONTACT THE STREET DEPARTMENT IS WE DO HAVE THE E ASSIST PROGRAM, WHICH YOU JUST GO ONTO THE SEA OF GARLAND WEBSITE.

UH, YOU CAN ALSO GO, YOU CAN ALSO EMAIL THE SEA OF GARLAND STREET DEPARTMENT AND JUST SPECIFY THEIR PROPERTY LOCATION AND WE CAN GO OUT TO ASSESS IT OR THEY CAN ALSO PHYSICALLY CALL INTO THE DEPARTMENT.

UH, THE TYPICAL TIMELINE IS ONCE WE RECEIVE THE ACTUAL INQUIRY, IT A WE, WE TAKE THAT IN AND GO THROUGH OUR PROCESSING.

THAT TAKES ABOUT THREE TO FIVE JS.

WE'LL SEND OUT A SIDEWALK INSPECTOR AND THEY'LL ASSESS IT, MEASURE IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THE QUALIFYING, UH, ORDINANCE.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT ASSESSMENT, WE SEND IT OVER TO REVENUE RECOVERY TO THEN COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH THE RESIDENT FOR, UH, LETTING THE RESIDENT KNOW WHAT THE COST IS, WHAT QUALIFY, WHAT DEDUCTIONS THEY QUALIFY FOR, AND WHAT THEIR OUT OF POCKET WILL BE.

AND THE RESIDENT BASICALLY HAS, UH, SIX MONTHS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE.

IF THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE WITHIN SIX MONTHS, THAT ORIGINAL QUOTE IS NO LONGER VALID AND IT GETS REASSESSED.

AND IF THEY DO, UH, MOVE FORWARD AND DO SIGN THE CONTRACT, THEN WE EXPECT WITHIN EIGHT TO 12 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON WHEN THE REQUEST IS RECEIVED, THAT WE'LL GET OUT THERE TO GET THE SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTED.

SO HERE YOU, HERE'S THE PROCESS OF BASICALLY THE CONSTRUCTION WHERE THEY HAVE THE, THEY TEAR IT APART, THEY PUT IN THE REINFORCEMENT, THEY PUT IN THE, THEY GET IT ALL FRAMED UP, POUR IN THE CONCRETE, LET IT CURE.

THEY SEPARATE THE BOARDS, PUT ALL THE GRASS IN, AND THEN YOU HAVE A NICE, BEAUTIFUL

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SIDEWALK.

OKAY, I GOT A QUESTION.

SO THAT LOOKS LIKE NOT SO MUCH THE OWNER'S PROPERTY AND NOT SO MUCH THE CITY'S PROPERTY.

SO WHO SIDEWALK IS THAT? SO ALL SIDEWALKS ARE LOCATED EITHER WITHIN A PEDESTRIAN EASEMENT OR LOCATED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THE CITY OF OR ORDINANCE FOR THE, FOR GARLAND, UH, DICTATES THAT ALL SIDEWALKS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MA TO MAINTAIN.

IS THERE LIKE A CERTAIN DISTANCE, LIKE FROM FROM WHAT TO WHAT IS CONSIDERED? OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO HAVE MEASURED TO COME OUT THERE? LIKE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, IS IT JUST THE PATHWAY IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE OR DOES IT GO TO THE NEIGHBOR'S MAILBOX TO MY MAILBOX? NOPE, JUST YOUR PROPERTY LINE FROM YOUR PROPERTY LINE TO YOUR OTHER PROPERTY LINE.

THAT'S ALL YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

SO IF I WANTED TO PUT A TRAILER BIN ON THAT SIDEWALK, WHEN NOBODY CAN WALK PAST, I CAN DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S MY PROPERTY.

NO, YOU CANNOT, YOU CANNOT, UH, OBSTRUCT A, A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO ACTUALLY ACCESS THAT PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY.

IT'S STILL CONSIDERED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND RIGHT OF WAY IS CONSIDERED PUBLIC ACCESS, BUT IT'S MY PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN.

YES.

, I UNDERSTAND THIS.

UM, IF THE SIDEWALK KIND OF STRETCHES OUT BETWEEN TWO PROPERTIES, UM, WHO WOULD BE LIABLE FOR PARTICIPATING? IS IT THE RESIDENT WHO FILES A COMPLAINT THAT HAS TO PAY THE 50? SO WE HAVE WHAT WE WILL CALL THOSE HELPFUL RESIDENTS THAT WILL WALK THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND REPORT DAMAGED SIDEWALK TO THE CITY.

AND WE'LL GO OUT AND WE'LL ASSESS IT AND WE'LL SEND THE RESIDENT, THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE'LL SEND THEM THE ESTIMATE, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PARTICIPATE.

THEY STILL HAVE THAT CHOICE.

SOMEONE CAN COMPLAIN ALL THEY WANT, BUT IT, IT'S, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO PARTICIPATE.

THE RESIDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WANT TO, THEY CAN GO RECONSTRUCT IT THEMSELVES.

THEY CAN HIRE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR.

BUT IF THEY DO THAT, THE CITY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THOSE FUNDS.

IF YOU WANT TO DO ANY PARTICIPATION WITH THE CITY, YOU HAVE TO USE THE CITY'S CONTRACTOR.

OKAY.

THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

WHO, WHO HIRES A CONTRACTOR? SO IT'S THE CITY DOES.

WE HAVE A, WE HAVE, UH, AN ANNUAL CONTRACT THAT GETS, RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT TO EXPIRE, SO I'LL BE REBIDDING IT, BUT THE CONTRACT, DEPENDING ON IF THE CONTRACTOR, UH, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO RENEW WITH THEM.

BUT THAT CONTRACT WILL TYPICALLY LAST ABOUT FIVE YEARS WITH, WHICH IS AN ANNUAL RENEWAL.

AND WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING IS WE HIRE A CONTRACTOR BASED ON THE LOWEST BID FROM, BECAUSE IT IS, UH, OUTSOURCE BIDDING, EVERYBODY HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BID ON IT.

BUT, UH, WE VET THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE QUALITY.

IF THEY AREN'T QUALITY, THEY WON'T GET RENEWED AND WE'LL END UP REBIDDING THE WHOLE PROJECT AGAIN.

BUT ANYWAYS, AFTER WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT IN PLACE, THEN AGAIN, WE ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SPEND ON THE SIDEWALK PARTICIPATION EACH YEAR.

ONCE THAT AMOUNT IS GONE, WE MAKE A LIST AND KEEP TRACK OF THE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT COME IN.

AND THEN ONCE THE REFUNDS GET RENEWED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE'LL START BACK ON THOSE BACKLOGS.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE A A USE IT OR LOSE IT KIND OF THING.

IT'S, IT'S USUALLY EXHAUSTED AT THE END OF THE YEAR IN A AND THEN A NEW LIST, A WAIT LIST IS SO IT, IT ISN'T A USER OR LOSE IT BECAUSE SINCE THE CITY OF GARLAND IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG COLLECTORS, IF WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED REQUESTS TO USE THE REMAINING OF THE FUNDS, WE'LL WE HAVE PLENTY OF AREAS TO GO AND TAKE CARE OF ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK.

MM-HMM .

YES.

? NO.

OKAY.

SO IF SOMEONE DOES COMPLAIN ABOUT A NEIGHBOR'S CRACKED SIDEWALK AND YOU SENT OUT THE INFORMATION OR THE QUOTE, UH, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, WHICH THEY HAVE A CHOICE, IS THERE ANY CITATION WITH THIS OR ANY KIND OF, I'M GONNA SAY THIS VERY CAREFULLY, , UNLESS, UNLESS IT'S NOTED OR BROUGHT UP TO THE ATTENTION.

LET ME BACK UP.

FIRST OF ALL, THE STREET DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT, UH, LEG TO IT.

THE ONLY ENFORCEMENT LEG WE HAVE FOR THE CITY IS CODE COMPLIANCE.

SO IF CODE COMPLIANCE RECEIVES A, UH, A REQUEST SAYING, HEY, THIS IS HAZARDOUS SIDEWALK, THEY CAN THEN WRITE A CITATION TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER AND SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOT SIX MONTHS TO START WORKING ON THIS.

AND THEN THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM IF THEY WANT TO.

BUT IT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH THROUGH CODE COMPLIANCE IN THAT METHOD.

SO IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENT THAT DOESN'T OWN A PROPERTY, COMPLAINS ABOUT

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IT AND WE PROVIDE A QUOTE.

AGAIN, THE RESIDENT HAS TO, DOESN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING IF I'M JUST SENDING THEM SOMETHING OR HE'S GETTING SOMETHING IN THAT WAY.

BUT IF THE RESIDENT COMPLAINTS TO CODE COMPLIANCE AND THE CODE COMPLIANCE THING GETS INVOLVED, THEN THE ADDITIONAL CITATIONS IN PLACE.

SO I JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND I, I'M NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT, I DON'T DO CITATIONS.

ALL I DO IS ASSESS, SEND THE INFORMATION OFF.

ONCE I GET ASSIGNED CONTRACT, WE'LL SEND THE CONTRACTOR OUT TO CONSTRUCT IT AND THAT'S THE END OF MY DUTIES.

OKAY.

SO HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE? IS IT BY SQUARE FOOTAGE OR IT'S IT'S PER LINEAR FOOT.

PER LINEAR FOOT.

HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST RIGHT, THAT YOU ARE SHOWING? SO AVERAGE COST PER LINEAR FOOT, SO HOWEVER LONG IT IS.

SO AN AVERAGE, WHAT IS A RESIDENT LOOKING TO SPEND? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT PARTS ARE DEFICIENT.

THAT'S WHY I SAY BASED ON LINEAR FOOT.

YEAH.

BECAUSE IT CAN, ON SOME PROPERTIES WE REPLACE AS LITTLE AS EIGHT FEET ON SOME OF 'EM WE'RE REPLACING OVER 200 FEET.

SO ASKING, SAYING HOW MUCH IT IS.

AND IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY QUALIFY FOR FOR ADDITIONAL DEDUCTIONS.

SO WHAT MAY COST ONE PERSON A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS MIGHT COST ANOTHER ONE A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON THOSE VARIOUS DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO EVERY TIME SOMEONE ASKS ME HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST, IT JUST DEPENDS.

YES.

SO IS, I MEAN, DOES THE HOMEOWNER HAVE AN OPTION TO CHOOSE THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR OR IS ONLY COMING FROM THE CITY? SO IF THEY CHOOSE THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR, THEN THEY DON'T GET TO PARTICIPATE IN THE, THE PROGRAM PARTICIPATION PROGRAM.

EVERYTHING IS ON.

YOU HAVE TO USE THE CITY CONTRACTOR BECAUSE WE GET A LITTLE BIT, MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.

YOU CAN GET SOMEONE TO CONSTRUCT, UH, CONSTRUCT IT FOR YOU CHEAPER.

THEY MAY NOT FOLLOW THE STANDARDS AND DO AS QUALITY OF WORK.

WE DO HAVE VERY SPECIFIC SPECIFICATIONS ON HOW TO BUILD SIDEWALK.

AND IF YOU OPT FOR A CONTRACTOR THAT MAY NOT BE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OR FOLLOW STANDARDS OR MAKE SURE THEY'RE USING THE RIGHT TYPE OF REINFORCEMENT OR CONCRETE, YOU'RE KIND OF SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR A SIDEWALK THAT MAY OR MAY NOT LAST VERY LONG.

AND IF I CAN MENTION THIS, IT'S PROBABLY NOT THIS EXACT PROGRAM, BUT A FEW YEARS AGO OUR SUBDIVISION, WHICH WAS BUILT BACK IN THE MID NINETIES, THEY WENT THROUGH AND AND REPAVED THE STREETS BECAUSE THE STREETS WERE CRUMBLING AND PARTS AND THEY, AS PART OF THE PROGRAM, THEY ALSO WENT IN AND FIXED THE SIDEWALKS IN CERTAIN AREAS WERE A MESS BECAUSE TREE ROOTS HAD HAD KNOCKED EVERYTHING ASKEW.

AND THEY WENT IN THERE AND NOT ONLY DID THEY REPAVE THE STREETS, BUT THEY ALSO WENT IN AND FIXED ALL THE SIDEWALKS AND IT WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT BETTER AFTER ALL THAT.

AND THAT COST THE LOCAL RESIDENTS NOTHING AT ALL.

BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT THIS EXACT PROGRAM .

NO.

SO ANYTIME THAT A STREET WITHIN THE SEA OF GARLAND IS BEING FULLY RECONSTRUCTED, WE ALSO, WE RECONSTRUCT FROM RIGHT OF WAY TO RIGHT AWAY, WHICH INCLUDES THE SIDEWALKS AND UH, DRIVEWAY APPROACHES, NOT DRIVEWAYS, DRIVEWAY APPROACHES.

SO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT THERE IS NO COST TO THE RESIDENT IS WHEN THERE'S A STREET THAT'S BEING COMPLETELY RECONSTRUCTED.

WE TRY TO EMPHASIZE, SO IF WE HAVE A SIDEWALK PARTICIPATION REQUEST ON A STREET THAT WE KNOW IS GONNA BE RECONSTRUCTED AND WE KNOW THE TIMEFRAME, WE DO LET THE RESIDENT KNOW.

BUT SOME OF 'EM ARE REALLY DIEHARD WALKERS AND THEY WOULD RATHER GET IT FIXED THEM.

AND THEN THERE'S OTHERS THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL COME IN AND RECONSTRUCT A STREET AND THEN THEY'LL COMPLAIN, WELL I JUST HAD MY SIDEWALK REDONE.

WELL THEN, SORRY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE WE CAN SAY FOR IT.

'CAUSE THAT'S JUST PART OF THE PROGRAMS THE WAY THE CONTRACT'S SET UP.

I JUST WANNA CLARIFY TOO, ANYONE CAN INITIATE THIS WHEN YOU'RE OUT GOING FOR A WALK AND ALTHOUGH I I FEEL AN AREA IS UNSAFE, FOR EXAMPLE, I I CAN INITIATE SAYING, HEY, I I I FEEL LIKE THIS IS UNSAFE AND WE CONTACT YOU.

DOES THAT YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN CONTACT THE CITY, UH, AND YOU CAN AND PROVIDE THE SPECIFIC ADDRESS WHERE YOU SEE THE DEFICIENCIES.

YOU JUST HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GONNA GET REPAIRED.

RIGHT.

THAT JUST MEANS THAT A QUOTE'S GONNA GO OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCEPT, REJECT OR IGNORE EXCEPT REJECT OR IGNORE.

YES.

WELL, MY QUESTION IS NOT ABOUT THE SIDEWALK, BUT HOW ABOUT, I UNDERSTAND THE GRASS AREA UHHUH, IT'S GONNA BE THE HOMEOWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WHAT IF THE CITY DID SOME WORK AND IT RUINED YOUR GRASS? IS THE, IS THE CITY GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE? SO, AND YOU'RE GONNA GONNA FIX IT? THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU'LL HAVE, AND I'M ONLY GOING TO, I'LL SPECIFY FOR CITY UTILITIES, I'M NOT GONNA SPECIFY FOR FRANCHISE UTILITIES.

FRANCHISE UTILITIES ARE A DIFFERENT BEAST ALTOGETHER.

SO WHAT IS CONSIDERED FRANCHISE AS IN YOUR CABLE? SO LIKE YEAH, YOUR, UH, FRONTIER CHARTER SPECTRUM,

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YOUR BASICALLY YOUR CABLE COMPANIES, UH, YOUR GAS COMPANIES, IF THEY COME THROUGH, YOU JUST HAVE TO COMPLAIN TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO COME FIX THIS.

YOU MIGHT GET LUCKY AND YOU MIGHT GET SOME RESPONSE AND THEY MIGHT COME FIX IT.

SO TELL ME THE WATER SERVICE STATUS.

SO IF THE WA, IF THE WATER DEPARTMENT OR SANITATION OR GPNL COME OUT AND DO ANY TYPE OF DAMAGE TO YOUR RIGHT OF WAY OR YOUR, UH, PROPER LAWN, YOU CAN, THERE ARE VARIOUS DIFFERENT CONTACT NUMBERS WITHIN THOSE EACH DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU'LL, YOU CAN SAY, HEY, UH, I SAW A GPL TRUCK BACK UP ON MY LAWN, CRUSHED MY SIDEWALK AND LEFT THIS HUGE OLD RUT.

THE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK OUT, FILL UP THOSE RUTS TO WHAT PREVIOUS CONDITIONS FOR THE MOST PART AND FIX THE SIDEWALK AT THEIR COST.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? LAST QUESTION I THINK, BUT IF THE SIDEWALKS WITHIN THE PROPERTY LINE ITSELF, IF A RESIDENT OR PROPERTY OWNER DECIDE TO FIX IT ON THEIR OWN, UM, DO THEY HAVE TO DO PERMITTING WITH THE CITY OR THEY JUST GO, HEY, I'M GONNA LEVEL THIS, UH, GROUND FOR THE SIDEWALK ON MY OWN OR KINDA LIKE THAT? IS THAT SO IT DEPENDS.

IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE EXTENT OF REPAIR YOU'RE DOING.

IF YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE REALLY FANCY GURUS THAT GO ON YOUTUBE AND YOU LEARN HOW TO ATTEMPT TO LEVEL LIFT WITH SPRAY FOAM, THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE.

BUT IF YOU'RE THE OTHER DYI THAT DECIDES YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A SLEDGEHAMMER AND REMOVE IT AND THEN PUT UP FARMS AND PUT ALL THAT STUFF, THAT MEANS YOU'RE WORKING WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

YOU HAVE TO CONTACT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, GET A RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT TO DO ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

THEY WON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT A LITTLE SPRAY FOAM.

THEY WILL SAY A HUGE THING WHEN YOU START SWINGING A, A SLEDGEHAMMER AND DRIVING THINGS THAT ARE WITH THAT CAN AFFECT OTHER UTILITIES THAT ARE ALSO WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOUR TY.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

WE'LL GET THIS PRESENTATION.

YES SIR.

NEXT UPS, THE KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL REPORT.

YES.

MY FAVORITE I LOVE.

BEAUTIFUL.

ALRIGHT, WHAT YOU GOT? MR. WELL IF I CAN GET THIS, HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING? OKAY, GREAT, THANKS.

WE'RE HANGING IN THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

MM-HMM .

SO FOR, UH, KEEP GROWING.

BEAUTIFUL.

WE HAD OUR LAST MEETING ON AUGUST 20TH.

UM, OUR UPCOMING EVENTS ARE THE, UM, BUTTERFLY GARDEN MAINTENANCE IS THIS SATURDAY MORNING.

UM, THEY HAVE STARTED USING, UH, VOLUNTEER GARLAND AS I THINK, UH, NOT JUST KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL, BUT SEVERAL CITY DEPARTMENTS.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO VOLUNTEER IN GARLAND, THIS IS THE SPOT TO GO.

I I'M USING IT FOR OUTREACH AS WELL FOR SANITATION.

SO, UM, YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND YOU CAN SIGN UP, IT'LL GIVE YOU THE HOURS, ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED, UM, TO BE SET UP WITH THAT.

UM, I ALSO GOT THE QR CODES UP HERE FOR INFORMATION.

UM, ON THAT, UH, LET'S SEE.

SO OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING IS NEXT WEDNESDAY, UH, SEPTEMBER 17TH.

WE HAVE RECENTLY BEEN MEETING AT THE PARKS BUILDING OVER ON TOWER WHERE THE, UH, ANIMAL SHELTER USED TO BE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT AREA.

UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, SO WE'RE IN THE PARKS BUILDING THERE.

WE USUALLY MEET AT 7:00 PM IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN JOINING US FOR THAT.

UM, PLEASE, UH, REACH OUT, LET ME KNOW.

UH, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO KEEP YOU UPDATED.

OCCASIONALLY WE CAN'T GET A QUORUM IN PERSON, SO WE WILL DO A MEETING, UM, VIRTUALLY.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO MISS IT.

IT'S VERY EXCITING.

, UH, SEPTEMBER 18TH, UH, IS NORTH TEXAS GIVING DAY, SO THAT'S WHAT THAT QR CODE IS UP THERE.

UM, IF YOU WANNA SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

UM, THE ORGANIZATION RUNS COMPLETELY ON DONATIONS FOR, UM, FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO, WHETHER IT'S CLEANUPS, UM, TAKING CARE OF THE BUTTERFLY GARDENS AND, UH, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE AROUND TOWN.

UH, THEIR PARTICIPATION WITH, UH, THE TRI-CITY CLEANUP, WHICH IS COMING UP AS WELL AS, UH, GET THE YUCK OUT OF DUCK CREEK.

UM, SO ALL OF THE FUNDING THAT WE USE TO HAVE BAGS OR GRABBERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT COMES FROM THAT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, BUT THEY ARE DOING EARLY GIVING AS ALREADY STARTED IN OCTOBER.

WE HAVE THE TRI-CITY CLEANUP, AS I MENTIONED.

THIS IS WHERE GARLAND ETTE AND DALLAS ALL WORK TOGETHER TO, UH, CLEAN UP THE AREAS AROUND THE LAKE,

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UM, LAKE RAY HUBBARD.

SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT SITES ASSIGNED.

YOU CAN ALSO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT ONE THROUGH VOLUNTEER GARLAND.

UM, IT IS, UH, ORGANIZED MOSTLY BY PARK PARKS, BUT GARLAND, UH, KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL, IS A BIG PART OF IT.

SO, UH, THAT SIGNUP IS ON THERE.

YOU CAN CHOOSE TO BE A SITE CAPTAIN OR JUST SHOW UP TO CLEAN UP, AND THEN THEY WILL FEED YOU LUNCH AND GIVE YOU DESSERT AND THERE'S LOTS OF SWAG AND EVERYTHING AFTERWARDS.

THERE'S A BAND, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

SO THEY TAKE GOOD CARE OF YOU AFTER THE CLEANUP .

UM, OCTOBER 15TH, THERE'S ANOTHER BOARD MEETING.

NOVEMBER 19TH, ANOTHER BOARD MEETING.

UH, WE DO A LOT OF MEETING .

AND THEN ON DECEMBER 8TH IS OUR NEXT, UM, MAINTENANCE CLEANUP FOR THE ARMSTRONG PARK BUTTERFLY GARDEN.

UM, THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE DO HAVE TO DO YEAR ROUND.

YOU KNOW, THE WEEDS DON'T STOP REGARDLESS OF THE SEASON.

UM, SO WE'RE ALWAYS OUT THERE WORKING ON THAT.

UM, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE TRI-CITY CLEANUP, THE OTHER QR CODE TAKES YOU TO VOLUNTEER GARLAND WHERE YOU CAN CHOOSE TO WORK, UM, ON THAT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON, I DON'T SEE IT ON YOUR LIST THERE, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SUMMIT IS SUPPOSED TO BE? IT'S IN THE FALL, BUT I DON'T, I SEE IT AND THAT WAS ALWAYS BETTY'S BIG ISSUE THAT SHE REPORTED ON, BUT MM-HMM .

I HAVEN'T, DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN ANNOUNCED.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I, I USUALLY GET A NOTIFICATION FROM THAT AS WELL.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

YEAH, I HAVEN'T SEEN AN EMAIL EITHER, SO, BUT IF AS SOON AS WE DO, WE CAN SHARE THAT.

YES.

YOUR, DID I PRESS THE REQUEST TO SPEAK? DID IT WORK? NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

OH, .

YES MA'AM.

SO HOW DO WE GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, I HAVE MY CARD IN MY BAG AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU.

UM, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AWESOME.

GREAT.

YES, SIR.

SO IF, IF, UH, GARLAND RESIDENT WANTS TO PARTICIPATE, GUESS IT ON SITE PHYSICALLY AT ZOOM OR NO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS ON THE BOARD WHO ARE NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO ATTEND.

AND I KNOW LAST MONTH WE HAD, UM, SOMEONE WHO WAS OUT OF TOWN AND SO WE SET UP A ZOOM MEETING FOR THEM.

SO THEY WERE BASICALLY IN THE ROOM WITH US.

THE MAJORITY OF US WERE IN THE ROOM.

AND THEN, UM, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, LET FOLKS JOIN VIRTUALLY.

MM-HMM .

ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, THANK YOU, MICHELLE, TO THE NEXT ONE.

UH, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

IT'S ME AGAIN.

.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, I AM ALSO YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATOR FOR OUR SANITATION DEPARTMENT.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW, UM, MY POSITION INVOLVES A LOT OF COMMUNITY EDUCATION AS WELL AS, UH, EVENT PLANNING FOR, UH, RECYCLING EVENTS OR COMPOST CLASSES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, RIGHT NOW, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS KIND OF AN UPDATE OF WHERE I AM.

I KEEP MOVING AND LOOSEN THE MICROPHONE.

OKAY.

UM, RIGHT NOW, JUST OVER THE LAST YEAR, FISCAL YEAR 24, 25, UM, WE HAVE RECYCLED OVER 10,000 TONS OF ITEMS THAT IS COMING IN THROUGH GARLAND RESIDENTS.

UM, IT'S AN AVERAGE JUST OVER A THOUSAND TONS A MONTH.

UH, AS FAR AS THE OUTREACH ACTIVITIES THAT I'VE WORKED TO COORDINATE, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN ABOUT 90 12 COMMUNITY PRESENTATIONS, 31 ELECTRONICS DROP OFF EVENTS.

NOW, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A WHOLE EVENT, BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE, UM, OUR NEW PROGRAM THAT WE ACCEPT, UH, ELECTRONICS AT THE TRANSFER STATION BY APPOINTMENT.

SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO ON THE WEBSITE FOR GARLAND SANITATION.COM AND, AND OUR, UNDER OUR ELECTRONICS RECYCLING AREA, YOU CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT, UM, WITH MYSELF OR ONE OF THE OTHER COWORKERS THERE, AND THEY WILL TAKE YOUR ELECTRONICS OFF YOUR HANDS AND MAKE SURE THEY GET TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

UM, SO THAT, UH, THOSE 31 DROPOFFS ARE KIND OF A MIX.

UM, 19 SPECIAL EVENTS, 16 SCHOOL VISITS, UH, 12 TRANSFER STATION TOURS.

AND, UH, THAT INCLUDES 140 HOURS OF, UH, EVENTS.

AND THEN APPROXIMATELY 6,500 RESIDENTS WERE SERVED DURING THE LAST YEAR WITH JUST THOSE PEOPLE WHO EITHER CAME TO THESE EVENTS OR WE WENT OUT TO THEM.

UM, WE HAVE A, ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF EVENTS THIS SATURDAY FROM 8:00 AM TO 10:00 AM IT'S A SHORT, MINI, UH, SHRED EVENT WITH ALSO TAKING TIRES, TEXTILES, AND ELECTRONICS.

UM, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND YOU HAVE STUFF AT YOUR HOUSE YOU WANNA GET RID OF, FEEL FREE TO SWING BY.

I'LL BE OUT THERE WITH MY CREW READY TO TAKE EVERYTHING OFF YOUR HANDS, AND IF YOU REALLY WANNA HELP ME OUT, COME VOLUNTEER AND I'LL PUT YOU TO WORK.

.

UH, ASIDE FROM THAT, SEPTEMBER 27TH IS MY COMPOSTING 1 0 1 CLASS FOR THIS FALL.

THAT WILL BE, WE'VE SHORTENED IT DOWN TO, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONDENSE IT INTO A ONE DAY, UM, CLASS.

WE START AT EIGHT 30 IN THE MORNING,

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AND WE'RE USUALLY DONE BY NOON.

UM, IT DOES GO, I DON'T WANNA SCARE ANYBODY BY SAYING IT GOES QUICKLY, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO USUALLY DURING THAT TIME.

AND I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THE FACT IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD STUMPED ON SOMETHING.

AND THEN ON NOVEMBER 15TH, OUR LOCATION IS TO BE ASSIGNED YET, BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO ANOTHER, UH, LARGER EVENT FOR PAPER SHREDDING, ELECTRONICS, TIRES, AND TEXTILES.

UH, NORMALLY WE DO THIS OUT AT DALLAS COLLEGE, BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO COORDINATE THE DATE AND TIME WITH THEM.

A QUESTION ABOUT THE RECYCLE TONNAGE, IS THAT WHAT'S PICKED UP IN THE BINS AND PUT IN THE TRUCKS? OR IS THAT ONCE IT GETS SORTED, WHAT GOES OUT FROM THERE? THAT IS EVERYTHING THAT COMES FROM THE TRUCKS AS WELL AS ANYTHING THAT RESIDENTS DROP OFF IN THE RECYCLE CENTER.

AT THE TRANSFER STATION.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

ANY IDEA WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT ACTUALLY DOES GET RECYCLED AND, BECAUSE I'M SURE SOME OF IT GOES TO THE DUMP, IF IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT USABLE.

MM-HMM .

SO THAT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION WE GET.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT WE DON'T RECYCLE AT ALL, BUT WE CERTAINLY DO.

WE WATCH THE TRUCKS COME AND HAUL IT OFF EVERY SINGLE DAY.

.

UM, BUT UH, WHEN WE SPEAK WITH, UM, OUR, OUR, UH, THE MATERIAL FACILITIES, UH, MATERIAL, OH MY GOODNESS.

MURPH , MATERIALS RECYCLING FACILITY MANAGER, UH, HE HAS TOLD US THAT 99% OF ALL RECYCLABLES THAT COME INTO THE FACILITY ARE SOLD OFF FOR RECYCLING.

NOW, OF THAT, IT DEPENDS ON THE LOAD, WHAT PERCENTAGE IS, YOU KNOW, GONE TO THE LANDFILL.

LIKE IF THERE IS TRASH IN THERE, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA PULL THAT OUT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA MAKE THE VENDORS UNHAPPY.

WE'D PULL ANYTHING LIKE THAT OUT OF IT.

SO WE AVERAGE BETWEEN 25 AND 30% AS FAR AS CONTAMINATION IN OUR RECYCLING.

WOW.

MM-HMM .

DO YOU KNOW, OR, IT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG NUMBER, UM, BUT HONESTLY THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS, IS ONE IN FOUR ITEMS IS NON-RECYCLABLE.

MM-HMM .

IS THERE ANY ONE, ONE PARTICULAR ITEM LIKE CANS THAT ARE MORE VALUABLE THAN OTHERS OR THAT FLUCTUATES FROM MONTH TO MONTH? IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON THE MARKET.

MM-HMM .

UM, SO, UH, A FEW THINGS.

UM, DO YOU GUYS, OKAY, SO AT HOME I HAVE A RECYCLING BIN, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

I HAVE THE BLUE ONE, THE BLUE AND THE GREEN BINS.

BUT AT, UM, MY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT MM-HMM .

UM, THE LANDLORD DOES NOT RECYCLE.

HE HAS A BIG DUMB, JUST THE BIG OLD BIN, FRONT LOAD CONTAINER.

AND SO HE DOESN'T WANNA PAY THE MONEY FOR THE RECYCLING.

SO HOW CAN, WHAT CAN I DO TO JUST GET A BLUE BIN FOR, FOR MY COMPANY? BECAUSE I WANT MY EMPLOYEES TO RECYCLE.

I WANT US TO RECYCLE.

GOTCHA.

AND EVEN THOUGH I'M RECYCLING INSIDE, IT IS, IT IS POINTLESS BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY TO RECYCLE OUTSIDE.

NO WAY TO PUT IT.

GOTCHA.

SO HOW CAN I FIX THAT? THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO REACH OUT TO OUR COMMERCIAL MANAGER, THOMAS OWENS.

MM-HMM .

HE CAN GIVE ME A BLUE BIN OR HE CAN WORK WITH YOU TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT BECAUSE THE LANDLORD DOESN'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT.

RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH.

IT'S COMMERCIAL RECYCLING IS HANDLED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

WE DON'T ACTUALLY ISSUE THE, THE BLUE CONTAINERS TO BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE THE FRONT LOAD CONTAINERS AND THE SMALLEST CAPACITY, TWO CUBIC YARDS.

I'M DO IT ALL THAT.

THAT'S A LOT.

I JUST GOT A FEW EMPLOYEES THAT COME.

I WANT TO RECYCLE.

YOU CAN TALK TO SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS TO SEE IF THEY WANNA PARTICIPATE IN WELL, MY NEIGHBORS ARE ALL COMMERCIAL.

NOBODY'S OVER THERE RECYCLING.

NO ONE, NOT ONE.

NOT THE LAUNDROMAT, NOT THE BINGO PLACE.

NONE OF NO ONE'S OVER THERE RECYCLING.

IT'S JUST THE BIG OLD NASTY BIN.

AND SO I'M RECYCLING, BUT IT'S POINTLESS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I STILL HAVE TO THROW IT ALL IN THE BIN.

MM-HMM.

SO WHY AM I RECYCLING TAKE HOME AND PUT IT IN THE BLUE BIN? FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT GOING IN MY CAR.

, LET'S START THERE.

, YOU'RE GONNA GIMME A TRAILER FOR THIS TRASH.

HOW DETERMINED ARE YOU? NO, NOT THAT DETERMINED.

.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED A WAY TO TRY TO, TO, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT DO WANT TO RECYCLE AND IT'S JUST NO WAY TO DO IT OTHER THAN INSIDE.

IT'S THE OUTSIDE.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

SECOND.

YEAH, FOR, FOR BUSINESSES, I CAN TELL YOU WE, UM, THE DEMAND JUST HASN'T BEEN THERE.

UH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, YOU'RE ONE OF THE VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE ASKED BUSINESSES.

TYPICALLY THEY GET THE TWO CUBIC QR CONTAINER OR THE A CUBIC QR AND THEY'LL SHARE IT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE.

UM, WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT.

UH, THERE WILL BE A COST, OBVIOUSLY.

UH, WE DO NOT MAKE MONEY FROM RECYCLING, SO WE GOTTA COVER OUR COST.

OKAY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT CAN I DO DIFFERENTLY.

RIGHT.

TRYING TO GET ONE FOR MYSELF OR SOMETHING.

YEAH.

I APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX FOR THAT.

DEFINITELY.

NO MA'AM.

MM-HMM .

.

YES SIR.

SO THAT ADDRESS 1426 COMMERCE, IS THAT THE ONLY TRANSFER STATION THAT WE HAVE IN GARLAND OR DO WE HAVE OTHER,

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UH, LOCATIONS OR BRANCHES? THAT'S THE ONLY TRANSFER STATION.

IT'S PRETTY CENTRALLY LOCATED SO THAT WHEN OUR TRUCKS ARE OUT, UH, PICKING UP RESIDENTIAL TRASH, THEY CAN COME BACK HERE.

SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT, IF YOU ARE LIVING IN SOUTH GARLAND AND THE LANDFILL IS IN THE FAR NORTH SIDE ON THE EDGE OF ETTE, THEN YOU'RE HAVING TO BRING THOSE TRUCKS ALL THE WAY BACK.

SO THIS HAVING ESSENTIALLY LOCATED THAT JUST SAVES US SOME TIME AND EFFORT AND MONEY AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS BY HAVING IT THERE.

SO WE JUST HAVE THE ONE DO YOU HAVE A PUBLIC SHREDDER THAT YOU CAN GIVE TO BUSINESSES OR NO, WE DO NOT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO RECYCLE.

I WILL SAY THIS IF I MAY, THERE'S A LOT OF THE BANKS, COMERICA ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY OFFER OFFER FREE SHREDDING.

YEAH.

I DO IT AT ILLEGAL.

THEY GOT BIG ONE AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T ASK.

YOU JUST BRING YOUR BOX AND YOU SHRED IT.

IT'S TOTALLY FREE.

YEAH.

THEY, YEAH, I HAVE, I KNOW.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THESE EVENTS LIKE ONCE A QUARTER, AND IF WE SEE HIGH DEMAND, THEN WE DO IT MORE OFTEN.

RIGHT.

TRY TO SQUEEZE ANOTHER ONE IN WHEREVER WE CAN.

.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I KNOW LAST YEAR WE DISCUSSED A GRANT THAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE TIRE COLLECTION.

DID WE EXHAUST THAT? DID WE ACTUALLY, UM, MEET THE MARK ON THERE? DID WE I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG THING THAT THEY GAVE US SO MUCH MONEY TO COLLECT SO MANY TIRES.

WE WERE REALLY PUSHING THAT LAST YEAR.

YES.

DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT WENT? AN UPDATE ON THAT? YES.

YES.

I COULD DO.

I WISH, YOU KNOW WHAT, AND I SHOULD HAVE PUT IT IN HERE AND I DIDN'T.

WE, WE CLOSED OUT THE GRANT AT THE END OF MAY.

UM, THEY GIVE US A, SO WE, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, UH, THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS DOES A GRANT OR HAS DONE A GRANT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE THEY HELP FUND TIRE RECYCLING EVENTS.

AND, UM, WE'VE PARTICIPATED THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND IT'S BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL FOR US.

WE, UH, THE GRANT TIMELINE IS USUALLY, I THINK THE FIRST ONE WAS ONLY FOUR MONTHS, AND THIS LAST ONE WAS A, OH MY GOSH, WE STARTED DOING THEM IN SEPTEMBER AND WE HAD OUR LAST COLLECTION IN MAY.

SO, UM, YEAH, SO IT WAS A PRETTY LONG ONE THIS TIME.

WE HAD TO GET ALL OF OUR PAPERWORK IN BY THE END OF MAY.

AND, UM, THEY REIMBURSED US FOR JUST OVER $8,000 TOWARDS, UH, TIRE COLLECTIONS.

SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS ON THE TIRES, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU GUYS.

WE WERE, WE WERE REALLY HAPPY WITH HOW IT TURNED OUT.

YES.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER ONE.

WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO RELEASE THE INFORMATION ON THE NEXT ONE.

YEAH, I, I SENT A LOT OF VOLUNTEER PEOPLE THERE.

YES.

AND I SO APPRECIATED THAT.

YEAH.

.

YES.

YEAH.

IF, IF RESIDENTS ARE NOT ABLE TO GO TO THIS EVENT, CAN THEY LEAVE IT IN THE CURB, YOU KNOW, FOR REGULAR CURB PICKUP, WHICH, WELL, OR ELECTRONICS.

NO, WE DO NOT WANNA LEAVE THE ELECTRONICS.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, WHAT IS INSIDE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ELECTRONICS? A LOT OF IT HAS YEAH, LIKE CHEMICALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT ARE RELEASED FROM SOME OF THE METALS AND EVERYTHING.

WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE OUT SOMEPLACE WHERE IT'S GONNA GET WATER TO IT AND CAUSE YOU KNOW, SO OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RECYCLED IN THE MOST, UM, FRIENDLY WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO, UH, WE DO, IF THEY CANNOT MAKE IT TO THIS, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE ON THE CITY'S, UH, SANITATION WEBSITE.

SO IF YOU GO TO GARLAND SANITATION.COM AND HIT THE RECYCLE SECTION, UH, IN THERE WE HAVE AN AREA FOR ELECTRONICS AND ON THAT PAGE YOU CAN MAKE APPOINTMENTS AND THEY CAN COME AND DROP IT OFF.

WE ARE THERE.

UM, A LOT WE'RE AVAILABLE YESTERDAY.

SOMEONE CAME AND DROPPED OFF.

I HAVE, I KEEP A WAGON THAT WE CAN USE TO OFFLOAD STUFF WHEN PEOPLE BRING IT.

'CAUSE IT'S USUALLY JUST ONE HOUSEHOLD.

AND, UM, YESTERDAY I THINK WE ENDED UP WITH THE WAGON FULL AND SOMEONE LEFT THEIR BASKET WITH ALL OF THEIR ELECTRONICS IN IT.

SO WE GET QUITE A GOOD AMOUNT YESTERDAY .

BUT, UM, BUT YES, SO WE ARE, THAT'S WHY WE'VE EXPANDED IT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE APPOINTMENTS AND ACCEPT THE ELECTRONICS THERE AT THE TRANSFER STATION.

BUT IT DOES HAVE TO BE DONE BY APPOINTMENT BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST LEAVE IT OUT IN THE OPEN.

OH, OKAY.

YES MA'AM.

OUT THE BOX AGAIN.

MM-HMM .

SO IS IT CHEAPER FOR US TO HAVE PEOPLE TO GO AND DO THE SHREDDING THAN TO ACTUALLY OFFER THE SHREDDING BINS TO, TO COMPANIES TO, TO HELP WITH THE RECYCLING? I'LL TAKE THAT ONE.

I WAS TRYING TO, ONCE AGAIN, EVERYTHING, A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS BASED ON DEMAND.

UH, THERE ARE SO MANY COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THIS SERVICE AT NO COST TO RESIDENTS.

SO ARE YOU ASKING IF THE CITY CAN PURCHASE A SHREDDER AND THEN OFFER THAT? JUST, JUST MORE SO LIKE TRUSTED WORLD, RIGHT? THEY ASK FOR CLOTHES AND TO MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU, THEY WILL PROVIDE YOU A BIN OUTSIDE OF YOUR WORK LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN DONATE CLOTHES TO THIS BIN MM-HMM .

AND THEY'LL PICK IT UP WHEN YOU TELL 'EM IT'S FULL.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW IT EXISTS UNTIL YOU TELL THEM THAT LIKE, I WANNA DONATE CLOTHES, BUT WHERE DO I, AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WELL OUR COMPANY HAS IT RIGHT THERE SO I CAN BRING IT TO WORK WHEN I COME IN SHREDDING.

IF THERE'S A BIN, IF YOU'RE OFFERING THESE BINS TO THESE CORPORATIONS, IF YOU WANNA RECYCLE OR IF WE WANNA PUSH RECYCLING, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS, HEY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE.

WE CAN PROVIDE YOU IF YOU WANNA

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RECYCLE CRAFT CRAFT FOODS, HOW MUCH SHREDDING DO THEY DO? WELL, KEEP IN MIND THE, THE, THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER ARE FOR THE CITIZENS, NOT FOR BUSINESSES.

BUSINESSES.

THAT'S THE OKAY.

YEAH.

HAVING WORKED IN, UH, MANUFACTURING IN THE PAST MYSELF, I CAN TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF THESE MANUFACTURING COMPANIES DO HAVE INDUSTRIAL SIZED SHREDDERS.

THEY'RE ON SITE.

SO THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COVERED AS FAR AS THEIR STUFF GOES.

AND WHEN YOU GUYS GO BACK TO YOUR COMMUNITIES, IF, IF THERE IS DEMAND THAT YOUR HOA WANTS TO DO ONE OF THESE EVENTS, LET US KNOW.

WE'LL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER IF THERE'S DEMAND THAT WE WILL COME THROUGH FOR YOU GUYS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND ANY, ANYONE ELSE THAT, THAT'S ALL YOU GOT MICHELLE.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES MA'AM.

I'D LIKE A BUSINESS CARD.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AT THE MEETING.

AND REMEMBER, WE'LL SEND YOU GUYS ALL THE PRESENTATIONS AND EVERYBODY'S, UH, POINT OF CONTACT IN CASE WE NEED TO GET AHOLD OF THEM.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I'VE GOT TWO THINGS TO START OFF WITH.

JUST A HEADS UP.

OUR YEARLY ELECTIONS ARE, ARE IN OUR DECEMBER MEETING.

SO IT'S FOR THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR.

SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT.

SO WE'RE NOT SITTING HERE POINTING AT EACH OTHER SAYING, NO, YOU DO IT.

OH, YOU DO IT .

UM, GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT.

NEITHER ONE'S A DIFFICULT JOB.

SO IT'S JUST SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS TO, ONE PERSON RUNS THE MEETING, THE OTHER PERSON STEPS IN WHEN THE OTHER PERSON'S OUT.

SO IT'S NOT A HUGE ASK.

SO THE WAY THAT WORKS IS SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE NOMINATED AND DON'T, SOMEBODY HAS TO SECOND THAT NOMINATION AND THEN EVERYBODY VOTES.

PRETTY SIMPLE.

YEAH.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, YOU'RE LIKELY TO GET, UH, , GET, UH, NOMINATED AND UH, ELECTED AS CHAIR.

SO, UH, THE SECOND ITEM, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF Y'ALL ARE IN, HAVE CAUGHT WIND OF THIS AS WHO, WHO'S HEARD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT, UH, SPRING CREEK FOREST PRESERVE? YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE? ANYWAY, I KNOW THINGS ARE, THINGS STOPPED AND THEN THEY'RE MOVING KIND OF SLOWLY, BUT BY DECEMBER, SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED BY THEN.

SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN JUST HEARING AN UPDATE.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S BOTH THE ENVIRONMENT AND COMMUNITY ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT ONE.

SO THERE'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE AN, THERE'S GONNA BE AN UPDATE THIS MONDAY.

OKAY.

FULL BLOWN PRESENTATION IN THIS ROOM.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO THIS IS PART OF THE WORK SESSION TO MAKE THE, WELL YOU WANT TO NO, WE, WE CAN'T NOT TALK ABOUT.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND, UH, ANYWAY, AND FUTURE.

SO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS STARTING OVER HERE.

ANYTHING, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT? LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY WE HAD A COUPLE OF REPORTS.

ANY PARTICULAR CITY DEPARTMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM? I DO.

SO WE HAD A PRESENTATION ABOUT SIDEWALKS, BUT, UM, DISTRICT SIX, WHERE I LIVE, THERE ARE CERTAIN ROADS THAT REALLY DO NEED ATTENTION.

AND SO MAYBE THE STREETS DEPARTMENT, BUT MORE ON THE STREET SIDE INSTEAD OF THE RIGHT SIDEWALKS.

'CAUSE I THINK A LOT OF IT IS EITHER THE, THE, THE TOP LAYER PAVEMENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF HOLES.

SAY FOR INSTANCE ON PURDUE, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S A LOT OF HOLES.

AND IT REALLY IS, CAN CAN I PIGGY BACK ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID? I MEAN, I DRIVE FROM SOUTH DALLAS COMING UP HERE.

'CAUSE I LIVE IN, IN UM, CENTERVILLE 66.

SO I HAPPENED TO CROSS THE WHOLE STREET TO WALNUT.

I'M VERY, I'M VERY IRRITATED 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SPEED BUMPS AND THEY'RE NOT, I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT THE CITY WHO MADE THOSE SPEED BUMPS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF APARTMENT COMPLEX ALONG THAT WALNUT.

I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH.

THE PATCHES OF THE ROAD.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SPEED BUMPS THAT LITERALLY WILL, WILL KNOCK.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

SO IS, I MEAN, WHO DO WE NEED TO TALK TO ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SOMEBODY JUST, WE CAN, WE CAN BRING THE STREETS DEPARTMENT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT STREET MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO ARE YOU THE, YOU'RE SECONDING HIS MOTION FOR THAT? YEAH.

AND JUST ASK HIM ABOUT THE SPEED BUMPS TOO.

.

SO I GOT A FEW THINGS.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT? , HE'S LIKE, HOW DID I KNOW ? OKAY.

I, I WOULD LIKE, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THE OUTCOME FROM GPD ON THE SITUATION OF WHERE WE ARE PUTTING THESE NEEDLES THAT THEY ARE NOT COLLECTING ANYMORE.

MM-HMM .

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

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THE OUTCOMES.

YEAH.

THE, UH, WE USED TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT, UH, OUTDATED DRUGS AND PEOPLE WERE PUTTING NEEDLES IN THERE.

OH YEAH.

AND SO THEY MOVED THE BIN BEHIND THE COUNTER.

SO NOW YOU HAVE TO DROP THE PILLS OFF TO THE PERSON AT THE COUNTER.

YOU CAN NO LONGER DROP OFF, UH, USE NEEDLES.

AND SOME PEOPLE WERE DOING THAT, BUT ARE THE NEEDLES WHERE, WHERE ARE THEY NEEDLES DON'T JUST DISAPPEAR.

AND I NEED TO KNOW, OR I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME ON THAT BECAUSE I HAD BEEN RALLYING FOR A MINUTE ON SOME IDEAS ON WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT PROBLEM.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE OUR PART, WE WE'RE GETTING ALL THESE PARTS CLEANED UP AND MICHELLE IS WORKING VERY HARD.

WE'RE KEEPING GARLAND BEAUTIFUL.

AND THE LAST THING I WANT IS OUR CHILDREN TO FIND NEEDLE.

OKAY.

CAN WE JUST GET A SECOND ON THE FIRST ITEM? CAN SECOND? YES.

I SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

CHRISTINA.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM I HAVE IS FOR CODE COMPLIANCE.

I LEAN ON, I WANT THEM TO COME IN AND GIVE US A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON THE RULES, UH, AND THE COMPLIANCE OF NEIGHBOR OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND, AND OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

MEANING THAT, LIKE HE SAID, THAT WITH THE COMPLIANCE ON, WITH GETTING CITATION ON THE STREETS, IF SOMEONE CALLS CODE COMPLIANCE AND THEY COME OUT, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THEY GET CITATIONS AND WE CAN GET THINGS TO MOVE FURTHER AND THEY CAN FIX THINGS.

WELL, I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THAT IT HAD NOT ASKED THAT QUESTION ON CITATIONS.

RIGHT.

SO CODE CODE COMPLIANCE.

CODE COMPLIANCE.

OKAY.

SO JUST AN OVERVIEW ON CODE AND ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS.

EXACTLY.

GOT IT.

SO THAT WE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE WE CAN SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC, THESE ARE YOUR RIGHTS.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT CAN HELP YOU, UH, GET THINGS DONE IN THE CITY TO HELP MICHELLE KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL.

, I I HAVE A QUESTION TOO.

I NOTICED AGAIN, DOWN IN WALNUT EVERY MORNING, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO TO GO TO WORK AT AROUND SIX IN THE MORNING FOR MORE THAN A WEEK, I'VE BEEN SEEING A COUPLE PEOPLE ACCESSING THE HYDRANTS.

MM-HMM .

OH YEAH.

CLEANING OUT TRUCKS AND STUFF.

I SAW THAT THIS MORNING.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING WATER ALMOST EVERY DAY.

AND IT'S, AND I, WHEN I, WHEN I LOOK AT THEIR VEHICLE, IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A CITY IN GARLAND LOGO OR ANYTHING.

YEAH.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A PRIVATE VEHICLE.

NOTICED THAT THIS MORNING ON WALNUT GOING, I WORK AT RICHLAND, SO I DRIVE FROM CLOSE TO MACO, THAT TINTING AREA.

UHHUH .

SO EVERY MORNING I PASS BY THERE AND I SEE THIS TRUCK.

THIS MORNING I WAS WAITING TO TAKE A PICTURE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT THERE.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING, CAN ANYBODY ACCESS THE HYDRANT? YOU'RE, BUT IT'S CAUSING A LOT OF WATER STILL ON THE ROAD.

YOU HAVE TO, UH, THEY, YOU CAN RENT A VALVE FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT THAT, THAT, UH, MEASURES HOW MUCH WATER YOU USE IN REST.

YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU BOUGHT A DEVICE, YOU RENT THE DEVICE, PUT A DEPOSIT DOWN, YOU CAN PUT THIS DEVICE ON ANY FIRE HYDRANT.

RIGHT? BUT THEN YOU'VE GOTTA TURN THAT IN.

THEY TOLD YOU HOW MUCH WATER YOU USE.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE A BIG, A ELONGATED VALVE IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

IF YOU SEE THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD THE ONE I SAW.

AND IF SAYING THAT, THEN THEY ARE, THEY'RE RENTING THE, THE SPIGOT AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE WATER THAT'S BEING METERED THROUGH THAT SPIGOT.

OKAY.

SO MOST PEOPLE THAT DO THAT, BUT IT IS A VERY HIGH PRESSURE NOZZLE.

SO IF YOU JUST OPEN IT UP, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA TAKE OFF ON YOU.

BUT IF YOU SEE ONE OF THOSE BIG ELONGATED VALVES ON IT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY GET FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT, THAT METERS OF WATER THAT THEY'RE USING.

LOOK, I'LL CHECK AND SEE.

, I NOTICED THEY HAD A VALVE THING THIS MORNING.

I WAS LIKE, SOME COMPANIES WILL DO THAT TO GET WATER FOR THEIR CONSTRUCTION JOBS, CLEANING SERVICES, ET CETERA.

BUT THEY ARE, THEY ARE PAYING FOR, THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT.

QUESTION OR AGENDA ITEM.

JUST REMEMBER IT HAS TO BE EITHER AN AGENDA ITEM AT THIS POINT, SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT US TO LOOK INTO.

AGENDA ITEM.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO ALSO, UM, UH, HAVE A GFD, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MM-HMM .

TO COME AND TALK TO US OR WORK WITH US ON WHAT WE CAN DO WHEN IT'S PERTAINING TO THE KEYS TO THE WATER VALVES OR HOW WE EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THE WATER VALVES OUTSIDE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SHUT OFF WATER.

ONE THING THAT I'VE NOTICED, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAD THE FREEZE IN 2021 AND WE HAD ALL THE BREAKS AND THE PIPES AND EVERYTHING, PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW THAT.

I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THE WATER DEPARTMENT OR CUSTOMER SERVICE, ONE OF THOSE TWO WATER DEPARTMENT THEN, OKAY.

WE NEED TO KNOW HOW TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ONE ON WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED AND WHERE TO LOOK FOR.

'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY CAN SHUT OFF THEIR OWN WATER.

SECOND, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY NEED A KEY.

SO HOW CAN WE EDUCATE THEM ALONG WITH GETTING THEM A KEY AND WHERE THEY CAN FIND A KEY? DO WE HAVE KEYS THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM? JUST WE NEED TO EDUCATE.

HOME DEPOT'S GOT THOSE.

'CAUSE I'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT TWO OF THEM JUST, UH, FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES.

BUT YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU, IF YOU GO TO, UM, THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND THEN YOU CLICK ON THE WATER DEPARTMENT, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY CREATED A VIDEO SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT, FOR THAT.

BUT WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ASK, SEE IF THEY WANT TO COME, SEE IF THEY WANNA COME

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OUT AND YEAH.

EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON HOW, WHERE TO LOOK, HOW TO DO IT.

GO TO THE WEBSITE.

I MEAN, I'VE SAID IT A HUNDRED TIMES.

GO TO THE, I'M SURE IT'S ON THE SITE.

I'M, I'M 100% ALWAYS.

I'M SURE IT'S ON THE SITE, YOU KNOW, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT'S AMA IT AMAZES ME HOW MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EDUCATING THEM.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.

IT'LL BE IN THE GARLAND GAZETTE.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT.

EVERYTHING FROM THIS MEETING IS ONE ON THE GARLAND GAZETTE.

CAN I GET A SECOND FOR THAT? CAN I GET A SECOND FOR THAT? ANYBODY? SURE.

LEMME SECOND THAT.

THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU.

I LOVE Y'ALL.

Y'ALL JUST WORKING WITH ME.

I LOVE IT.

, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE, I'LL BRING IT OUT THERE.

BUT WE KNOW RECENTLY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE VOTE ON THE MD HEALTH PATHWAY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN BRING, WE CAN BRING IN.

I AM COMPLETELY UNEDUCATED ABOUT THIS.

ALL I KNOW IT IS THAT I'M BEING CHARGED.

YOU HAVE TO OPT OUT.

YEAH.

UM, SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE, IF POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, I I, I TOLD THE CITY COUNCIL, I'M GONNA BRING IT TO MY BOARD.

SO I I DO, I WANTED TO SEE IF WE CAN BRING THAT TO YOU.

YEAH, WE CAN ASK TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

WE CAN ASK ABSOLUTELY.

WE CAN ASK JUST TO EDUCATE.

WE, WE NEED TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR JOB.

WE, THAT WAS IN THE, BY THE WAY, THE GARLAND GAZETTE, UM, THEY, WE DID A STORY ON THAT AFTER THE BOARD MEETING BECAUSE IT CAME UP AT THE BOARD MEETING AND UM, WE ACTUALLY RAN EXACTLY HOW TO OPT OUT.

THE WHOLE STORY WAS IN THERE.

YEAH.

SO THAT 93-YEAR-OLD WOMAN READ THAT.

NO, PROBABLY NOT.

OH, PROBABLY.

BUT SEE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, BUT HOW DO, SO THEN HOW DO YOU ED YOU KNOW, WELL, WHAT DO YOU DO? HOW ELSE DO YOU PROVIDE INFORMATION? WELL, WHERE DO THEY BE AT THE BINGO HALL.

MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT SOMETHING UP IN THE BINGO HALL.

WHETHER, I MEAN, , I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO THINK.

93.

WHERE WOULD A 93-YEAR-OLD BE IN HER YARD? YEAH.

JUST REMEMBER WE, WE, WE CANNOT ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

NOT, NOT NOW.

IF WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, THEN ABSOLUTELY, UH, WE CAN.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ANYONE ELSE ON FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? AND JUST REMEMBER IF, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GO HOME AND OF COURSE YOU'RE GONNA THINK, MAN, WHY DIDN'T I BRING THIS UP? AS LONG AS YOU GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO SECOND THAT REQUEST, YOU CAN SEND US AN EMAIL AND WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

SO BASICALLY YOU HAVE THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, IF SOMETHING COMES UP, JUST LET US KNOW.

YOU JUST GOTTA HAVE SOMEONE ELSE SEND US AN EMAIL AND CC THAT PERSON AND THAT'LL BE YOUR SECOND.

ALRIGHT? OKAY.

IF NOT, UH, I WOULD MOVE TO ADJOURN.

SOMEBODY WANTS TO SECOND IT UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING OF, UH, IF I SEND OUT THE AGENDA, WE'LL HAVE EVERYBODY'S EMAIL ON THAT.

SO IF YOU NEEDED TO DO THAT, YOU COULD CUT.

NO.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

THE, THE, THE REASON WHY YOU NEVER SEE EACH OTHER'S EMAIL ADDRESS IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU REPLY, ALL, YOU START A PUBLIC MEETING.

SO FOR THAT REASON, YOU, WE DON'T INCLUDE EVERYBODY'S EMAIL ADDRESS, BUT YOU CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER.

LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU TWO, IF, IF YOU COME UP WITH AN AGENDA ITEM, YOU CAN TALK TO SHARONDA AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU BE MY SECOND? SHE SAYS, YES.

YOU SEND US AN EMAIL, CC HER.

THAT'S, AND, AND IT'S DONE.

GOT IT.

I MOVED TO, WE SECONDED THE ADJOURNMENT.

SO YEAH.

ARE WE ALREADY ADJOURNED?