Nov 18, 2025 City Council

[ LEGISLATIVE PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

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NOVEMBER 18TH, 2020 REGULAR MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. IT IS THE TRADITION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE AN INVOCATION AND RECITAL OF THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING, LED BY ONE OF OUR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO INVITE. YOU ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU SO CHOOSE, BUT YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN EITHER OR BOTH. YOUR DECISION IS A STRICTLY THE MATTER OF YOUR OWN CHOICE, AND WILL NOT AFFECT THE DECISIONS TO BE MADE BY MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL HERE TONIGHT. TONIGHT'S INVOCATION PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OTT. SIR. THANK YOU. CARE TO JOIN ME? GOD OF WISDOM AND MERCY, WE GATHER TONIGHT IN A MOMENT OF TRANSITION FOR OUR CITY. SOME COME WITH CONCERNS, SOME WITH WEARINESS, BUT ALL OF US WITH A SHARED HOPE THAT GARLAND CONTINUES TOWARD BETTER DAYS. WE ASK YOUR BLESSING ON THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE THIS CITY EVERY DAY. OUR STAFF WHO CARRY UNSEEN BURDENS, WHO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON THE STREETS SAFE, AND THE WHEELS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT TURNING WITH QUIET DEDICATION. STRENGTHEN THEM IN THIS SEASON AND SURROUND THEM WITH ENCOURAGEMENT. GRANT OUR CITIZENS PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING AS WE NAVIGATE CHANGE TOGETHER. REMIND US THAT THE COMMUNITY IS STRONGEST WHEN GRACE OUTRUNS SUSPICION AND WHEN GOODWILL OUTLASTS THE MOMENT. AND FOR THIS COUNCIL, LORD, GIVE US CLARITY WITHOUT HARSHNESS, CONVICTION WITHOUT DIVISION, AND A SPIRIT THAT APPROACHES DISAGREEMENT WITH CHARITY TOWARDS ONE ANOTHER. HELP US CHOOSE COHESION WHERE FRACTURE IS EASY AND BROTHERLY, LOVE WHERE FRUSTRATION TEMPTS US OTHERWISE. STEADY OUR HEARTS WITH THE LONG MEMORY OF THIS CITY. A PLACE BUILT BY PEOPLE WHO WEATHERED DIFFICULTY WITH GRIT AND NEIGHBORLINESS. LET THAT HERITAGE GUIDE OUR DECISIONS TONIGHT. MAY WHAT WE DO HERE HONOR THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE US. SERVE THOSE WHO WHO DEPEND ON US NOW, AND OPEN THE DOOR TO A DAWN OF GARLAND'S FUTURE. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME AGAIN, EVERYONE. JUST A

[ Texas Downtown President's Award and the People's Choice Award for Best Public Improvement]

[ CONSENT AGENDA]

COUNCIL HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW EACH OF THESE ITEMS AT A PREVIOUS WORK SESSION, AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE EACH ITEM.

I WILL ANNOUNCE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL, AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, TO REQUEST THAT ANY ITEM BE REMOVED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY REQUESTS FROM CITY COUNCIL YET, BUT I WILL READ THE ITEMS OFF AND THEN CALL FOR ANY ANYONE HAS ANY ITEMS TO BE REMOVED. FIRST ITEM IS APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020 REGULAR MEETING. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS APPROVE THE FOLLOWING BIDS TO A GP. WILEY TO MALLARD 138 KV TRANSMISSION LINE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TWO B IS CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO TO BOTTLENECK IMPROVEMENTS. DESIGN CONTRACT. ITEM THREE IS PUBLIC HEARING WAS PREVIOUSLY CONDUCTED FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONING CASES. COUNCIL APPROVED THE ZONING REQUEST AND INSTRUCTED STAFF TO BRING FORTH THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES THREE A IS Z 2529 HUNTER MCGUIRE. IN DISTRICT ONE. THREE B IS Z 2528 MISSION RIDGE CONSULTANTS IN DISTRICT THREE, ITEM THREE C IS Z 2532 KIMLEY-HORN IN DISTRICT ONE, AND ITEM THREE D IS Z 2533 DARLAND T TRUONG IN DISTRICT EIGHT COUNCIL. IS THERE ANY ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE REMOVED CONSIDERED SEPARATELY? ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANY ITEM REMOVED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY? OKAY. SEEING NONE, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OT. THANK

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ON TO THE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE READ OUR SPEAKER GUIDELINES FOR US? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IS GIVEN TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY RATHER THAN TO QUESTION THE CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF. THE CHAIR MAY CALL A SPEAKER OUT OF ORDER IF THE SPEAKER PRESENTS QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION THAT WILL UNDULY DELAY THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS AT THE MEETING, SPEAKERS SHALL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON A FIRST COME, FIRST TO SPEAK BASIS, AS DETERMINED BY THE ORDER IN WHICH THE CITY SECRETARY RECEIVES THE SPEAKER'S INFORMATION. APPLICANTS E ALLOWED TEN MINUTES FOR PRESENTATIONS, AND ALL OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WHEN THE PODIUM BUZZER SOUNDS, THE SPEAKER MUST END THEIR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU MA'AM, IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK AND HASN'T DONE SO ALREADY, EITHER ON AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM OR FOR SYSTEM COMMENTS LATER, PLEASE GO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD. ALL RIGHT.

[a. Consider a request by Osama Dagher, requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for an Automobile Repair, Minor use on property zoned Community Retail (CR) district and 2) a Concept Plan for an Automobile Repair, Minor use on the subject site. The site is located at 4134 Bobtown Road in District 3.]

THAT'S PAPPY'S CARWASH THAT WAS APPROVED NOT TOO LONG AGO. AND EARLIER THIS YEAR THEY OPENED WHAT YOU SEE TO THE NORTH THAT SAYS PD 22 DASH 16. THOSE ARE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY EAST AND WEST TO THE TO THE SITE, TO THE WEST. THERE IS A CHURCH THAT YOU SEE IN THE IN THE GREEN. AG ZONED SITE TO THE TO THE EAST. THERE ARE A COUPLE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND THERE ARE SOME UNDEVELOPED TRACT NEXT TO THAT, BUT NOT TOO FAR EAST THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY, THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN DIFFERENT CORNERS AROUND THIS SITE THERE ARE SEVERAL GAS STATIONS. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THIS AREA OUT AS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY GATHERINGS. PLACES. THESE CENTER SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY SCALED TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS. HERE YOU SEE THE SITE PHOTOS. THE FIRST PHOTO THAT YOU SEE THAT'S THE MULTIFAMILY. PROJECT THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU SEE THE ACTUAL SITE. THAT SITE IS CURRENTLY. IT HAS A NON-OPERATIONAL CARWASH. IT'S IT HAS NOT BEEN IN OPERATION FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. A COUPLE MORE PICTURES OF THE SITE AND

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ONE OF IT WILL BE BLOCKED AND ONE OF IT WILL REMAIN TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE SITE.

WHAT YOU SEE IN GREEN ON SITE, THAT'S THEIR OFFICE SPACE. IT'S ABOUT 225 SQUARE FOOT AND THEY HAVE THREE BAY AREAS FOR TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. THE AUTO REPAIR SERVICES TO THE SITE.

THE APAPPLICANT MENTIONS AND MAINTAINS THAT THERE WILL BE NO ON SITE STORAGE OF VEHICLES.

PARKING IS PROVIDED TO THE SOUTH AND WEST AND NORTHTH. THEY WILL NEED TO PROVIDE LANDSCAPING ALONG BOBTOWN PLAN COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND A FEW ADDITIONAL. ELEMENTS TO ADD TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM IF IT'S APPROVED BEFORE ONCE THEY COME IN FOR THE SITE PERMIT. AND I WANT TO TOUCH ON IT A LITTLE BIT ON THIS SLIDE. FIRST ONE IS UNDER KRT, THE HIGHEST, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED BUILDING HEIGHT IS 35. PLAN COMMISSION WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN'T GO ALL THE WAY UP TO 35, SO THEY PUT IN A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BUILDING HEIGHT CANNOT EXCEED 20FT. STAFF AGREES WITH IT, WITH IT BEING WHERE IT IS AND COMPARED TO THE OTHER OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE NEXT TO IT. WE THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD CONDITION TO HAVE ANOTHER CONDITION THAT PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED IS TO HAVE NO OPENINGS TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH. AND THAT WAS THAT CONDITION WAS ADDED.

CONSIDERING SOME OF THE RESIDENT CONCERNS THAT PLAN COMMISSION HEARD REGARDING POSSIBLE NOISE OR POLLUTION NOISE CONCERNS. SO UNLESS IT'S REQUIRED BY BUILDING OR FIRE CODE FOR EMERGENCY EXIT PURPOSES, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY OPENINGS ALONG THE EAST SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE LAST ONE LAST CONDITION THAT WAS ADDED WAS IT WASN'T SPECIFIED, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AGAIN IF IT'S APPROVED TO HAVE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING ALONG EAST ALONG THE EAST SIDE, SOUTH SIDE AND WEST SIDE. AGAIN WITH THE CONCEPT OF HEY, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE OTHER NON AUTO ORIENTED USES LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO IT. SO JUST TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LANDSCAPING TO PROVIDE THAT EXTRA PROTECTION. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE STAFF DOES NOT OFFER A RECOMMENDATION. WE DO SEEK CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. AND THE REASON BEING IT IS AN AUTOMOTIVE VIEWS. WE DO NOT THINK IT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VISION, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER WHICH DOES CALL OUT FOR MORE COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACES, MORE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT. HOWEVER, PROVIDED THAT THE COUNTY IS THERE, THE PAPPY'S CARWASH IS THERE. AND THAT'S WHY WE ALWAYS SAY THE THE LAND USES AND PROXIMITY OF LAND USES WHERE ONE USE USES DO TEND TO FOLLOW EACH OTHER USES THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH EACH OTHER. AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE CASE. THE COUNTY CAME, THEN THE CARWASH CAME, AND NOW THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR USE CAME. AND NOW WITH THOSE USES BEING THERE, IT.

WE'D LIKE TO REMAIN NEUTRAL ON THIS BECAUSE WE DO SEE HOW IT MAY FIT WITH THOSE USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. PLAN COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND FOR 15 YEARS WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS. AFTER THE PLAN COMMISSION MEETING, THE APPLICANT DID REACH OUT TO US AND CONVEYED THAT HE WOULD LIKE FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER 30 YEARS INSTEAD, AND WE CONVEYED THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT HE'LL HAVE TO ASK COUNCIL. BUT IN THAT CONTEXT, I DID GO AND WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE TIMELINE WAS ON PEPI'S CARWASH, AND SO SHE HAS AN INDEFINITE TIME TIMELINE THAT'S UP, AND PAPAPPY'S HAS 25 YEARS, I BELIEVE. NO, PAPPY'S HAS 30 YEARS, 25, 25 TO 30, 30 I THINK. SO THOSE ARE JUST INFORMATION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. WE DID RECEIVE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS. THIS IS NOT CORRECT. BUT WE DID RECEIVE A TOTAL OF NINE RESPONSE LETTERS WHILE GOING THROUGH THE LETTERS. AGAIN, THE CONCERNS WERE REGARDING POLLUTION, POSSIBLE POLLUTION, NOISE, THIS BEING TOO CLOSE TO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NOT FITTING THAT AREA. THIS AGAIN MORE AND MORE AUTO TYPE USES COMING TO THE AREA, THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE WERE THE CONCERNS ON THOSE LETTERS WHICH WERE EMAILED TO YOU EARLIER THIS THIS EARLIER TODAY. WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

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BECAUSE THERE IS VERY LITTLE SPACE. AND THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN. THEY KIND OF LEFT IT UP TO STAFF THAT WHATEVER REQUIRED, WHATEVER'S REQUIRED, THEY'D HAVE TO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT ALSO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO A LITTLE ABOVE AND BEYOND. SO I, I'M NOT ENVISIONING LIKE LARGE TREES OR ANYTHING, BUT MOSTLY ORNAMENTAL OR SHRUBS AS APPROPRIATE. WHAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND THAT REQUEST TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BUFFER, TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE BUFFER TO THE SURROUNDING USES, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A USE. CORRECT. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT DOMINO EFFECT, WHERE YOU LET ONE IN ANOTHER AUTO USE COMES IN, AND ANOTHER ONE AND ANOTHER ONE, AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU GOT GARLAND ROAD GOING FROM 635 ALL THE WAY TO DOWNTOWN GARLAND. SO JUST WANT TO SAY PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU SEE CASES LIKE THIS, BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING AND GOING AND GOING. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A DENTAL OFFICE NEXT TO A GAS STATION? I CAN'T REMEMBER, I CAN'T I CAN'T THINK OF ONE OR CAR WASH OR DEFINITELY NOT A AUTO SHOP. WE SEE IT VERY OFTEN, LIKE GAS STATION OFTEN COMES FIRST IN A HOT CORNER IF THERE'S LAND, AND THEN IF THAT'S APPROVED, THEN THE CAR WASH. THAT'S ALSO VERY COMMON. OH NO, I KNOW I'M ASKING, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A DENTAL OFFICE NEXT TO ANY OF THOSE AUTO USES? I HAVE NOT MAYBE BEHIND ONE. MAYBE IN A SHOPPING CENTER NEAR, BUT DEFINITELY NOT ADJACENT TO ABUTTING ONE. I AGREE. SO YEAH.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BASS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT, NABILA. AND LOOKING UP THE ADDRESS, IT SHOWED THE ADDRESS SHOWS IT AS A RESTAURANT. DO YOU DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT STAFF WHO WENT OUT THERE ON SITE, THEY COULDN'T TELL ME WHAT IT WAS. WHY GOOGLE? IT'S THE IT'S THE OLD CAR WASH, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS SEEING SOMETHING WRONG. AND THEN ONE OF THE RESIDENTS PUT THAT IN THEIR COMMENT TOO. THAT'S WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION AS WELL. SO I'D LIKE THE APPLICANT TO CLARIFY WHAT IF THEY KNONOW WHY IT SHOWS THAT. BUT THE STAFF CONVEYED THAT THEY COULD. THEY DID NOT SEE ANY ANY RESTAURANT THERE. IT'S AN OPERATIONAL CAR WASH. OKAY.

JUST MAKING SURE I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT THING. AND AND YOU KNOW, IT PIQUED MY INTEREST TOO, BECAUSE I REMEMBER READING THAT IN A COMMENT. AND AT FIRST I THOUGHT THEY WERE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. AND THEN I LOOKED IT UP IN GOOGLE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS THANK YOU MAYOR.

I WOULD YOU PUT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT PARKING WOULD YOU? SLIDE BACK UP AND AND GO BRIEFLY. GO OVER AGAIN WHERE. BECAUSE I WENT OUT THERE AND I KNOW WHAT HIS BODY IS. IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A A LEFT TURN ON THE BOBTOWN THAT WAY. AND IT'S A CAR WASH. SO, SO WHAT WOULD THE PARKING BE? I DIDN'T SEE VERY MUCH SPACE BETWEEN THE CAR WASH AND THE OTHER BUSINESSES. SO THE CAR WASH WILL BE DEMOLISHED. THAT STRUCTURE THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY, THEY OWN IT. THEY HAVE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT ONE WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND THEY WILL CONSTRUCT THIS OFFICE AND THESE THREE BAYS FOR THE SERVICE BAYS. AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE, THESE ARE PARKING SPACES. THESE ARE THERE ARE FOUR PARKING SPACES HERE, FIVE PARKING SPACES HERE. AND ONE, TWO, THREE, THREE, FOUR PARALLEL PARKING SPACES THERE.

AND THEY MEET THE PARKING CODE. THEY MEET CODE OF THE GDC FOR PARKING. AND THE THE PETITION OR LACK OF A BETTER TERM THAT THEY THAT YOU SHOWED JUST A MINUTE AGO. DID THEY SUBMIT THAT I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT IS GENERALLY THE APPLICANT'S INFORMATION TO SHOW TO THE CITY COUNCIL. I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT UP THERE IN CASE THE APPLICANT DIDN'T BRING IT WITH THEM JUST TO DO THEM, DO THEM, GIVE THEM A CUSTOMER SERVICE.

BUT THAT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT TO CONVEY TO CITY COUNCIL WHAT THEY HOW THEY WENT AND GOTTEN THOSE SIGNATURES FOR THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT LETTER. OKAY. I'LL ASK HIM ABOUT THAT. YEAH.

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I'LL, I'LL ACTUALLY APPLICANT WHEN THEY COME UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. NABILA, IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S KIND OF A HISTORY, A STORY THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO PROCEED. WHAT'S TAKING PLACE HERE TO KIND OF GIVE REFERENCE TO WHY WE'RE EVEN CONSIDERING IT. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE, THE I-30 CODE IS CATALYST STUDY. SEVERAL YEARS AGO WAS CONDUCTED, AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO DO WITH THAT AREA AS IT RELATES TO INTERSTATE 30, ROSE HILL, AND THAT ENTIRE AREA IS TO BRING UPSCALE KINDS OF BUSINESSES TO THE AREA, HOWEVER, AND THAT'S WHAT THE THE STUDY DEMONSTRATED AND SHOWED FOR US. HOWEVER, BEFORE I BECAME COUNCIL, GOT ON THE COUNCIL, THE STATION WAS APPROVED, AND EVER SINCE THEN, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, THAT THAT THAT CORRIDOR, THAT AREA HAS TAKEN ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN. AND THAT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS. I THINK THAT COUNCILWOMAN LUTZ KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT ONCE IT TAKES A LIFE OF ITS OWN. WHAT I HAVE TO DO AT THAT POINT IS RELY ON, FIRST OF ALL, THE COMMUNITY. PAPPY'S CAR WASH CAME NEXT, AND THEY CAME IN WITH A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE COMMUNITY BEING IN FAVOR OF THAT BUSINESS, BEING THERE, LOOKING AT THE OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND IT. NOW WE HAVE A FAST FOOD JACK IN THE BOX. I BELIEVE IT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY. YOU HAVE A STRIP MALL ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE GOLDEN CHICK AND IT'S ENTITIES ON ONE END, AND NOW YOU HAVE THE BEAUTY AND THE COMMUNITY SAYING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE PAPPY'S CAR WASH. I LISTEN TO MY COMMUNITY AND IN LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, WE APPROVED CAR WASH. NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A GAS STATION OR A CAR WASH. CAR WASH IS IN TERRIBLE SHAPE. IT JUST IT'S AN EYESORE. IT'S TERRIBLE. THIS IS A VERY SMALL PLOT OF LAND, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE. AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE THAT WE CAN DO IN THE WAY OF WHAT A BUSINESS IS GOING TO DO AS IT RELATES TO PUTTING A BUSINESS THERE. AND SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LOCAL, LOCAL YOUNG MEN, LOCAL BUSINESSMEN WHO PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, AND IT TOOK THEM A YEAR BECAUSE THEY WERE REALLY THEY'RE NOT A LARGE BUSINESS. THEY'VE BEEN SAVING UP THEIR MONEY AND COMING WITH A BUSINESS PLAN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, I REALLY TAKE PRIDE IN WHEN I SEE YOUNG PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY ATTEMPTING TO ESTABLISH BUSINESS AS A RESULT OF THAT, WHEN THEY CAME BACK, WHAT WAS ALREADY A USE FOR THE PROPERTY HAD CHANGED. AND SO WE'RE AT A SITUATION NOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING IN, THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS BUSINESS INTO AN AREA THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE WOULD PUT THERE, REALLY. AND THEY WANT TO BEAUTIFY THAT AREA. THEY WANT TO BRING BUSINESS. THEY WANT TO PUT PEOPLE TO WORK. AND SO I THEN GET, AS I STATED EARLIER, I LISTEN TO MY COMMUNITY AND I SEE THESE LETTERS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH AND THE LETTERS ARE I'M GOING TO SAY 5050, IN THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT THE BUSINESS THERE, AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT DO. LET ME ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE HOUSING UNIT THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, WILL THE ESTHETICS, THE FENCE LINE OR THE LANDSCAPING THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING? WILL THAT HELP TO MITIGATE THE THE NOISE LEVELS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY, YES, THAT HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF ENCROACHING UPON THOSE CITIZENS? I THINK THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TOWARD MITIGATING THE CONCERNS. YES, SIR. OKAY. TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD DO THERE, WHAT YOU MIGHT ASK OF THEM TO DO IN ORDER TO CREATE THAT BUFFER. WE'LL HAVE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED PLANS DURING THE SITE PERMIT STAGE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING THE PLANS WHERE THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH UTILITIES OR EASEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING, BUT WE'LL FIND A WAY TO INTRODUCE MORE SHRUBS AND ORNAMENTAL TREES TO MITIGATE THE AUTO, THE THE SENSE OF AN AUTO USE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND ADD SOME GREENERY IN THERE. AND I DO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU, AS A PLANNING DIRECTOR WOULD TAKE A NEUTRAL POSITION TONIGHT BECAUSE AGAIN, IT DOES

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BY DEVELOPING IT WITH A NEWER STRUCTURE, MORE LANDSCAPING, IN A WAY IT DOES IMPROVE THE SITE.

OUR ONLY THING IS IT DOESN'T MEET THE COMP PLAN VISION, BUT AGAIN, WHAT HAS BEEN TAKEN PLACE IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. THIS DOES COMPLIMENT THOSE USES. AND THEN FINALLY, I THINK THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE USE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE. IT SAYS AUTOMOBILE REPAIR. BUT IN FACT THERE REALLY IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY ACTUAL REPAIRS. IT DOESN'T SOUND MORE OF A OIL CHANGE TYPE SITUATION OR YEAH, SOME OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POSSIBILITIES, THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOING THERE. SO THE DEFINITION OF MINOR AUTO REPAIR DOES INCLUDE OIL CHANGE. THAT'S A BIG COMPONENT OF IT. BUT THERE ARE ALSO TIRE REPLACEMENTS, OTHER MINOR PARTS, REPLACEMENT TUBES, BATTERIES, THINGS LIKE THAT KIND OF DIAGNOSTIC SERVICES, MAYBE SOME MAINTENANCE USES. OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL, BUT WHAT WON'T BE ALLOWED IS LIKE ANY ENGINE RELATED REPAIRS OR THINGS THAT CAN GENERATE A LOT OF NOISE OR POLLUTION, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S TRULY MEANT TO BE MINOR PER THE DEFINITION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR.

COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. MADAM SECRETARY, IS THE SPEAKER. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR. OSAMA DODGER. ALL RIGHT, SIR, IF YOU'D COME ON UP. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS OSAMA. I'M THE APPLICANT. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD ADDRESS AS WELL. OH, THE ADDRESS IS 3305 MIDDLE OAKS DRIVE, GARLAND, TEXAS, 75043. AND I'M THE APPLICANT FOR THE MINOR AUTO REPAIR PROJECT AT 4134 BOBTOWN ROAD. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. I WANT TO THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT I SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD A SIGN SUPPORT FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THE SOUTH DISTRICT SHOWING THAT NEIGHBORS WANT TO SEE THIS PROPERTY IMPROVED, CLEANED UP, AND TURNED INTO A BUSINESS THAT WILL BENEFIT THE AREA AND CREATE JOB OPPORTUNITIES. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THIS SITE CURRENTLY AN OLD NON-OPERATIONAL CAR WASH THAT HAS BECOME AN EYESORE AND ATTRACTS UNWANTED ACTIVITIES. MY GOAL IS TO REPLACE IT WITH A CLEAN, SAFE AND PROFESSIONALLY OPERATED MINOR AUTO SERVICE CENTER FOCUSED ON OIL CHANGES. THIS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE AND THE SAFETY OF BOBTOWN ROAD. I AM ALSO RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THE SCP TO BE APPROVED FOR 30 YEARS INSTEAD OF 15 YEARS. I WANT TO POINT OUT. POTENT CONSISTENCY ISSUES. THE NEW CAR WASH ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS CAR WASH, WHICH AS MENTIONED HAS LIKE 30 YEARS SUV AND THE HAVE THE INDEFINITE SUV. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE IN THE SAME AREA, APPROVING MY SHOP FOR 30 YEARS WITH ALIGN WITH ALIGN WITH THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES AND ENSURE THAT ALL COMMERCIAL USES IN THE AREA HAVE SIMILAR LONG TERM STABILITY. SINCE I'M USING 30 YEAR LOAN TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY, AND MATCHING THE SUV ALLOWS ME TO INVEST FULLY AND MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY LONG TERM AND KEEP THIS BUSINESS OPERATING SUCCESSFULLY FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES, JUST LIKE THE OTHER BUSINESSES, THIS PROJECT WILL CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY, IMPROVE THE LOOK OF BOBTOWN ROAD, AND CREATE JOBS AND BRING NEEDED SERVICES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A FEW IF WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS HERE FOR YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. HI, HOW ARE YOU?

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COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. FIRST THING 30 YEARS IS YOU CONVINCE ME TO GO WITH THAT. QUESTION ON THE YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO. SPACE TO THE FOOD TRUCK DRIVER, RIGHT? RIGHT. NOW HE SITS OUT FRONT OF THE CAR WASH AND YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T DRIVE THROUGH THERE BECAUSE THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE. SO LET ME HEAR YOU. WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE AS FAR AS, LIKE TRAFFIC PEOPLE GOING

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THERE'S NOTHING IN THE MIDDLE THAT GIVES EVEN THE DUMPSTER TRUCK TO GET IN AND GETS OUT EASILY. SO IF THE BIG TRUCK COMES IN AND GETS THE TRASH AND GETS OUT EASILY, ANY OTHER TRUCK CAN DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IF I HEARD YOUR QUESTION. CAR TRAFFIC. REGULAR.

REGULAR TRAFFIC. REGULAR TRAFFIC WITHIN PARK WHERE HE PARKS NOW? YEAH. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THAT? RIGHT NOW? YES. IF IF THIS REQUEST IS APPROVED, HOW WOULD HOW WOULD THIS REQUEST MITIGATE THAT SITUATION OF TRAFFIC? AS FAR AS LIKE WHEN WE START CONSTRUCTION.

CORRECT, SIR. YEAH. WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WE LIKE AS FAR AS, LIKE WHEN WE START THE CONSTRUCTION, WHERE THE TRAFFIC ON BOBTOWN, THAT'S ALREADY EXISTED. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT? WHERE IS THAT TRUCK GOING TO BE WHEN YOU FINISH CONSTRUCTION? OH, YOU MEAN YOU MEAN THE BARBECUE TRUCK? YES. OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. YES, YES. SORRY. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW THERE IS ACTUALLY A GAS STATION NEXT DOOR THAT ACTUALLY JONATHAN, I MEAN, IF THE CITY WILL ALLOW HIM TO STAY THERE WHILE THERE'S CONSTRUCTION, I AS AN OWNER, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. I'VE KNOWN JONATHAN FOR A LONG TIME, AND ACTUALLY, HE WAS MY NEIGHBOR WITH THE PRESSURE WASHING BUSINESS. SO THERE'S THERE IS NO NOTHING GOING ON IN THERE. SO WHATEVER IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO GET GOING WITH THE CONSTRUCTION REALLY FAST. I THINK ONCE WE POUR THE CONCRETE, HE CAN ACTUALLY JUST STAY ON THE SIDE AND WE CAN FINISH DOING THE WHOLE BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE. THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY OF SPACE, BUT WE HAVE NO ISSUES AS FAR AS LIKE JONATHAN STAYS THERE. HE MIGHT BE MAYBE STAY AT THE GAS STATION FOR A MONTH, WHICH IS THERE'S ANOTHER BARBECUE TRUCK THERE, BY THE WAY, BUT IT'S I SAW IT, I SAW IT, YEAH, YEAH.

THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER BARBECUE TRUCK OVER THERE. IT'S JUST IT IS WHAT IT IS. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S A MOBILE BUSINESS. YOU CAN TAKE IT ANYWHERE. MAYBE LIKE THERE IS S MAYBE LI A BLOCK AWAY. IT CAN BE HAPPEN. BUT FOR ME, AS FOR MY PART, AND I KNOW THAT I HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY NEED THIS BARBECUE PLACE TO BE THERE. SO I'M GOING TO DO WHATEVER IN MY HAND TO ACTUALLY KEEP HIM THERE. AND I WAS ACTUALLY TELLING HIM LIKE, HEY, MAN, THE NOISE COMING OUT. I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE PTSD NOW FROM HAVING THAT GENERAL RUNNING ALL THE TIME.

SO WE TRY TO GET ELECTRICITY. THIS IS AN OLD SUBJECT, TRY TO GET ELECTRICITY, BUT WE CAN'T.

SO THAT'S WHAT FORCED US TO ACTUALLY GET THIS BUILDING GOING AND HAVE UTILITIES IN IT.

THEN EVENTUALLY YOU CAN PLUG IT IN AND LIVE NOISE FREE AND SELL YOUR BARBECUE. THAT'S WHY I SAY IT'S WIN WIN FOR. OKAY, I HAVE JUST TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YES I DO IN YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION PRESENTATION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION PACKET. YES, THERE WERE I THINK EIGHT RESPONSES AND ALL EIGHT OF THEM WERE NEGATIVE. FIVE CAME FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND THREE FROM OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA. AND THE COMMENTARY WAS CONSISTENT. OKAY.

CONVINCE ME, HOW DID YOU RESPOND TO THAT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FOR THAT LETTER THAT SAID NO. YES. SO ACTUALLY MOST OF THEIR CONCERN WAS THE NOISE, THE POLLUTION AND THESE THINGS IN THE IN THE REJECTION LETTERS, YOU KNOW, AND LET'S SAY FOR THE NOISE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING ANY BODY WORK, ANY HEAVY, YOU KNOW, ENGINE REPAIRS. IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE OIL CHANGES. YOU GET IN, YOU GET YOUR OIL CHANGE, YOU LEAVE. SO THERE IS NO LIKE HEAVY MACHINERY. YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING OUT THERE, WHICH YOU LIKE. THE GENERATOR RIGHT NOW IS GOING ON THERE. IT HAS MORE NOISE THAN WHATEVER. WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE POLLUTION.

WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH WHATEVER THE CITY STANDARDS ON ACTUALLY DUMPING THE OIL WITH, LIKE WHATEVER THE PLACE IS, IS GOING TO BE. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A NICE SCREENING? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NICE LIKE LANDSCAPE. SO THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THEIR MOST OF THEIR CONCERN AS PEOPLE SAY NO AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING. I WANT TO KNOW HOW DID YOU ADDRESS THAT? JUST JUST AS I SAID, IT'S THIS IS LIKE I READ MOST OF THE REJECTION LETTERS. OKAY. WHAT WAS YOUR WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO RESPOND RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLLUTION THEN THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE TRAFFIC, WHICH IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO ATTRACT ANY

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LIKE WE HAD. YOU JUST GOT IT WHEN I JUST GOT THE EMAIL YESTERDAY. NO NO NO. YOU HAD THE PETITION DONE WHEN THE PETITION FROM. YES. IT LOOKED LIKE YOU YOU. OH OKAY. OKAY.

I'M SORRY. MY APOLOGIES. WE HAD OKAY. SO SINCE I'M LIVING IN THE AREA AND I HAVE I WORK ACTUALLY IN THE AREA TOO. SO I'M INVOLVED WITH COMMUNITY WITH NEXT DOOR APPS, YOU KNOW, FACEBOOK PAGES. OKAY. WE CAN GET SO I CANNOT POSSIBLY WHEN I'M TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO.

NOVEMBER. IT'S NOVEMBER 8TH. THAT'S WHEN WE HAD THE LIKE THEY HAD A PICNIC AND WE WENT THERE AND WE HAD TWO. AND I INTRODUCED WHAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE CONCERNS. SO WE ACTUALLY TALK TO THEM. WE HAD A NICE, YOU KNOW, MEETING WITH EVERYBODY AND THEY SIGNED THE LETTER. THEY'RE L LIKE, WE ARE APPROVING THIS. WE ARE WITH YOU. YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS EVERYTHING IS GOOD, YOU GUYS GOING TO HAVE LIKE A SOMETHING ELSE BUILT UP HERE BESIDE THIS OLD ABANDONED CAR WASH. SO THEY ACTUALLY WAS THEY WERE WITH US WITH THIS THING. THIS WAS AFTER THE THE PNNING COMMISSION HEARING. AFTER. AFTER. YES.

BEFORE. RIGHT. NO NO NO NO NOT BEFORE. IT'S AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR, I HAVE I HAVE A HEARING PROBLEM IN MY LEFT. I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T HEAR YOU CORRECTLY. YOU ANSWERED ME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN HANGING OUT WITH JONATHAN TOO MUCH AT THE BARBECUE PLACE. I KNOW MAYOR PRO TEM LOOKED. HI.

HI. SO DOWN THE DOWN TOWARDS THE CORNER AT BOBTOWN AND LIONS. LIONS. THERE'S LIKE A LIONS.

THERE'S LIKE AN EMPTY CORNER LOT THERE. I KNOW, I MEAN YOU COULD PUT LIKE A TIRE SHOP THERE. LIKE FOR US, FOR ANYBODY. I MEAN ALL THESE AUTO USES YOU LIKE PASS BY THE. YEAH. YOU COULD DO, YOU COULD D INSPECTIONS. YOU COULD DO ANY AUTO USE. I MEAN IT WOULD FIT IN WOULDN'T IT. YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EMPTY LOT BEHIND THE SHELL GAS STATION AND IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH? YEAH. I MEAN, ANY OF THOSE EMPTY LOTS OVER THERE, BUT THEY'LL ALL FIT THAT USE, RIGHT? IT'S THAT LAND IS OWNED BY THE CHURCH, AND THEY WERE NEVER GOING TO SELL IT.

ACTUALLY, IT'S JUST CONCRETE BEEN PILED UP IN THERE. SO IF I HAD THE MONEY AND I KNOW THAT I CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THAT SIDE OF GARLAND BETTER, I WILL ACTUALLY BUY THAT LAND AND PUT LIKE SOMETHING ELSE IN IT, BECAUSE IT'S BIGGER AND WILL TAKE LIKE A SMALL SHOPPING CENTER. YOU CAN PUT THE DENTAL SHOP IN THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT THESE THINGS, BUT WE'RE STUCK WITH THE SMALL LITTLE PLOT AND IT'S ACTUALLY THERE IS THE CAR WASH IS THERE. SO AND IT'S JUST AN EYESORE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. BUT FOR THAT LOT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES.

IF THEY, IF THE CHURCH WE APPROACHED THEM, IF THEY WANT TO SELL, THEY DON'T WANT TO SELL IT. THEY JUST WANT TO KEEP IT LIKE THAT. BUT IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO ACTUALLY PUT LIKE A SMALLER SHOPPING CENTER IN THERE. THEY HAVE IT'S A BIGGER LOT. THEY CAN PUT LIKE A DENTAL SHOP. YOU CAN THEY CAN PUT DIFFERENT LIKE BUSINESSES IN THERE. SURE. BUT IT'S UP TO THEM. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO BEAT YOU UP. TOO BAD. I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND HOW I FEEL ABOUT AUTO USES. I'VE BEEN VERY VERBAL ABOUT THAT FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I THINK THAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE. WILL WILL CORRECT SOME BLIGHT. HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THAT PROPERTY? LIKE THREE YEARS. HOW HOW COME YOU HAVEN'T DEMOLISHED THAT CAR WASH IN THREE YEARS? WELL, IF I TELL YOU THE STORY ACTUALLY ABOUT WHEN WE BOUGHT THE CAR WASH. WE'RE NOT BIG INVESTORS. I LIVE IN THE AREA AND IT'S BEEN THERE, SO I'M LIKE, WHY I CAN'T JUST BUY THIS AND PUT A LITTLE MONEY IN IT AND RUN IT AS A CAR WASH. THAT'S WHY IT WAS BEFORE PAPPY'S ACTUALLY IN THIS. THEN WE GOT HIT WITH SOMETHING. IF IF THE CAR WASH BEEN ABANDONED FOR MORE THAN OR ANY BUILDING ABANDONED FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS, YOU CANNOT OPEN IT BACK

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SO NO OTHER USES ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT APPEALED TO YOU? ANY MORE ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE ZONING? RIGHT? ANY OF THE ALLOWED USES? OH, OKAY. THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY AN ALLOWED. IT'S AN SUV. TRUE. SO YOU LET'S SAY WE WANT TO PUT A RESTAURANT. THERE IS NO WAY TOO TIGHT. I PAID MONEY FOR ENGINEERS LIKE THE ARCHITECTS, AND THEY COULDN'T COME UP WITH.

SO YOU DID LOOK INTO OTHER USES? YES. JUST YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WHEN WE FIGURED OUT THAT WE CAN'T DO IT BY RIGHT ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, SO I HAD TO ACTUALLY GO THE OTHER ROUTE. THEN DAVID NAJAFI HAVE A NEW SHOPPING CENTER BY THE NEW HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET, AND IT'S A HUGE AND HALF OF IT IS EMPTY. AND THEY ALREADY HAVE LIKE, A NAIL SALON, DONUT SHOP. C-STORE. IF I'M GOING TO DO THAT, LET'S SAY THE LAND WILL ACTUALLY TAKE THE SIZE. WHAT AM I GOING TO ADD? THERE IS ALREADY THESE SHOPS ACROSS THE STREET, SO I'M NOT ADDING ANYTHING, BUT I KNOW NOT BECAUSE I BOUGHT THE LAND AND I WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. I KNOW BECAUSE I LIVE THERE AND I HAVE TRUCKS THAT I HAD TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO BELTLINE TO DO OIL CHANGES AND COME BACK AND GO BACK AND FORTH. IT'S CONVENIENT AND IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THIS APPROVAL, BECAUSE OTHER THAN THIS, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET STUCK WITH IT. IT'S TRUE AND HONEST OPINION. I WISH YOU ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD. THANK YOU.

BUT I DISAGREE. THE AUTO USES ARE APPROPRIATE WHERE THERE ARE ALREADY AUTO USES BECAUSE TO ME IT'S A. I EXPLAINED IT AS A DOMINO EFFECT EARLIER. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER ANALOGY I COULD COME UP WITH THAT WOULD KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SHOW BECAUSE YOU SAID IT EARLIER. THAT'S WHY I PUNCHED IN BECAUSE YOU SAID IT EARLIER WHILE YOU WERE TALKING. YOU SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GAS STATION THERE ALREADY. YOU COULD JUST GET YOUR GAS AND THEN YOU GET YOUR, GET YOUR OIL CHANGED. AND THEN AND HERE, WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT IN A TIRE SHOP AND AN INSPECTION PLACE AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS, BECAUSE THOSE ALL FIT TOGETHER, RIGHT? IT WILL HAVE AN INSPECTION IN THE SAME OIL SHOP. OF COURSE IT WILL. I MEAN, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. THAT'S WHY WHEN I STARTED TALKING, I TALKED ABOUT GARLAND IN GENERAL AND THAT LITTLE AREA, YOU KNOW, IN SPECIFIC, WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE IT JUST LIKE GARLAND IN GENERAL. RIGHT? SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MY POINT. AND THAT'S MY POINT. EXCUSE ME SIR, WILL YOU PLEASE EXCUSE ME? SIR, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER, SIR. EXCUSE ME SIR, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. EXCUSE ME SIR, SO I DO WISH YOU LUCK. HONESTLY. THANK YOU. AND I. AND I REALLY DO HOPE THAT YOU TEAR DOWN THAT CAR WASH. BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN, LIKE THREE YEARS AGO. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. COUNSELOR, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, THERE IS. MAYOR HEDRICK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER? YES, SIR JOHN GARZA. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS. RIGHT NOW I LIVE OFF OF BELTLINE ROAD, AND RIGHT BEHIND ME IS A 5509 MYERS DRIVE. RIGHT BEHIND ME IS TRIPLE A MUFFLER SHOP, AND I CAN TESTIFY VERY CLEARLY THAT I CAN. THAT IS ONE OF THE LOUDEST LAND USES I'VE EVER LIVED NEXT TO. IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1979, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE ALLOWED LAND USES IN THE. CITY CODE.

CITY CODE? YEAH, HE CAN SAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE JUST ONLY OIL CHANGES THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF HEAVY SOUND. AUDIO. LOUD USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THAT. UNDER THAT. I'M

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THANK YOU, SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER ON ITEM? THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS. MAYOR HEDRICK, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SIR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME ON UP. YOU CAN FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AFTERWARDS. YEAH, YOU CAN FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AFTERWARDS. PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. HOW MANY? HOW MANY, SIR? 60. 17 SILVER LEAF LANE, DISTRICT THREE. COUNCIL MEMBER. A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'M NOT HERE TO BE THEIR ATTORNEY, BUT I'M HERE TO GIVE MY HONEST OPINION IN REFERENCE TO A RESTAURANT THERE OR AN OFFICE THERE. IT'S BEEN EMPTY FOR THREE YEARS. WHY HASN'T ANYONE APPLIED? OBVIOUS REASON, NOT ENOUGH SPACES IN REFERENCE TO NOISE. YOU'RE TELLING ME THE 18 WHEELERS THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT DOOR ARE MAKING LESS NOISE THAN WHAT THEY WOULD MAKE CHANGING AN OIL? I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE. IN REFERENCE TO THEM FOLLOWING THE LAWS, THE RULES, THE REGULATIONS YOU HAVE. Q WHO HAD PROMISED THE CITY THERE WOULD BE NO OVERNIGHT TRUCKS, AND THEY SPENT. I HAVE A NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET. HIS TRUCK IS THERE FOR THREE OR 4 OR 5 DAYS BEFORE HE MOVES IT. I HAPPEN TO BE THE HOA PRESIDENT, AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE OR, I THINK YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY LEADER, THE WHO'S WHO FOR GARLAND 2024 AND FOR THE UNITED STATES IN MAY OF 2025. ALL I CAN GIVE IS MY HONEST OPINION IN REFERENCE TO THE BARBECUE GUY THERE AT THEIR LOCATION. THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THERE ARE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET, ACTY PARKING OR THE OR THE. THEY'RE VERY FEW TIMES AND I, I LIVE THERE, I LIVE TWO MINUTES FROM THERE. I SURROUND THAT AREA VERY FEW TIMES. DO YOU SEE MORE THAN TWO CARS? THEY WALK THERE. THEY LIVE ACROSS. THEY PARK AT PAPI'S. THEY PARK AT CUTIS AGAIN IN REFERENCE TO THE NOISE YOU'RE TELLING ME IN 18 WHEELER IS MAKING LESS NOISE THAN WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE ON THEIR ON THEIR DRILL OR THEIR SCREWDRIVER TO TAKE AND CHANGE AN OIL. YEAH. YOU GOT TO BE REALISTIC. I'M A FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONSULTANT. THERE'S AN OBVIOUS REASON THE RESTAURANTS HAVEN'T APPLIED. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE THERE. YOU HAVE TOO MANY RESTAURANTS. HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, AND I AGREE WITH MARGARET, IN MANY WAYS, I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR HER. SHE DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE IT OIL, YOU KNOW. SO AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KNOWN FOR. BUT YOU GO DOWN BROADWAY, THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE OIL CHANGE PLACES. TAQUERIAS, MEXICAN RESTAURANTS, TIRE SELLING TIRES UP AGAIN. YOU EVER DRIVEN BY OR LIVE BY A TIRE CHANGE PLACE? THEY MAKE MORE NOISE WHEN? WHEN THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO MAKE I SAY GIVE THEM A CHANCE. THEY DON'T DO. AND I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO APPROACH THE BOARD IF THEY'RE NOT KEEPING UP WITH

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YOU'RE IN MY AREA. I WILL BE THE FIRST TO CALL COUNCILMAN MOORE. AND THEN FROM THERE ON IN, EVERYBODY HERE, ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU SUM UP, SIR. SORRY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES.

YOU HAVE CHANCE FOR ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE HEARD OR RESPONSE? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S THIS IS THE DEMOCRACY WE'RE IN. EVERYBODY CAN SAY THEIR OPINION. I RESPECT THAT, AND I THINK I SAID EVERYTHING I HAVE AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT IMPROVING THIS PROPERTY AND CREATING SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S THE 30 YEAR SUPPLY ACTUALLY ALLOWS ME TO INVEST, FULLY, MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY LONG TERM AND BRING NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO TOWN. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR THE SUPPORT AGAIN AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMAN MOORE, THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT, SIR. MAYOR. I'M NOT GOING TO REHASH ALL THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT TO HEAR THE PROS AND CONS. I'M GOING TO ASK AT THIS POINT FOR MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THE 30 YEAR SP, NOT THE 15, PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE AT THIS POINT THE STATION HAS AN INDEFINITE. THE CAR WASH HAS A 30 YEAR. THESE BUSINESSMEN HAVE PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE, AND NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE. DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, IT SEEMED TO ME. AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THE MOTION WITH THE 30 YEAR SP, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SP FOR 30 YEAR TIME PERIOD, AND A CONCEPT PLAN. I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON COUNCIL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US.

COUNCILMEMBER. BASS, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, WHILE WE GET THAT FIXED, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR A MANUAL VOTE ON THIS ITEM. THEN THE MOTION AGAIN TO REPEAT IS TO APPROVE AN SCP FOR 30 YEAR TIME PERIOD AND A CONCEPT PLAN. COUNCIL. ALL IN FAVOR, I ASK YOU TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 123456 WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS LUCK OR MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK, WILLIAMS AND BASS IN OPPOSITION. THAT ITEM PASSES. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE

[5. Eminent Domain Authorization for Keen Creek Substation Project]

MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DARRELL KLEIN, GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT HAVE WITH ME

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TYPICALLY THAT'S CAPACITY ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSMISSION LINES. SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF THAT INCREASED CAPACITY OF THOSE TRANSMISSION LINES, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR STATIONS SO THE STATIONS CAN BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THAT WE NEED TO FLOW THROUGH THE SYSTEM IN A PARTICULAR SITUATION THAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW WITH OUR COLLEGE AND FAIRDALE SUBSTATIONS, WE'RE NEEDING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TRANSMISSION LINES THAT FEED INTO THOSE STATIONS. HOWEVER, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE WITHIN THOSE STATIONS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS ADDITIONAL SPACE TO MAKE THE NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS, AND AT THE SAME TIME BE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE THE COLLEGE AND FAIRDALE SUBSTATIONS INTO ONE AREA. SO WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING FOR LAND OR PROPERTY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH US SITING THE STATION, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO TRY TO CHECK OFF ON THE BOXES. FIRST BEING SIZE, OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT THE SIZE THERE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED. WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 8 TO 10 ACRES. THE SITE THAT IS IN QUESTION FOR TONIGHT IS ROUGHLY 9.4 ACRES. THE OTHER THING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE SHAPE YOU. IF YOU EVER LOOK AT A SUBSTATION, YOU'LL SEE IT'S A KIND OF A SQUARE TO EVEN A RECTANGLE KIND OF SHAPE. AND SO YOU DON'T WANT AN ODD SHAPE WITH REGARDS TO A STATION THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT WE LOOK AT WITH REGARDS TO TO PROPERTY IS WHAT IS ITS SHAPE LOOK LIKE. IN ADDITION TOPOGRAPHY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TOPOGRAPHY, WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF CIVIL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S IT'S FLAT BASICALLY ACROSS THE PROPERTY. SO NOT AS MUCH TYPE OF CIVIL WORK ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE OTHER THING THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IS LOCATION. OBVIOUSLY, YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE AS CLOSE TO THE STRUCTURES AND POLES AND LINES AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE ANY TYPE OF MOVEMENT AWAY FROM THOSE LINES AND STRUCTURES JUST MEANS YOU'RE HAVING TO EXTEND OUT. AND THAT'S MORE COST, MORE EXPENSE, WHICH ULTIMATELY HITS THE RATEPAYERS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR LAND SITE, YOU HAVE TRANSMISSION FACILITIES THAT ACTUALLY IS A CONFLUENCE OF THE TRANSMISSION FACILITIESS FOBOTH THE COLLEGE STATION AND THE FAIRDALE STATION ARE RIGHT THERE AT SHILOH, AS WELL AS THE DISTRIBUTION FEEDERS THAT ARE EXITING. THOSE STATIONS ARE ALSO THERE ON SHILOH, CONVENIENTLY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE THERE. AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT WE LOOK FOR IS WE PREFER A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S VACANT. A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT. OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE CONTEMPLATING THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING TO USE EMINENT DOMAIN, YOU WOULD PREFER FOR IT TO BE VACANT RATHER THAN IF YOU'VE GOT HOUSES OR BUSINESSES. JUST MY OWN PERSONAL PERCEPTION OF THAT IS THAT THERE'S MORE NEGATIVE ASSOCIATED WITH WITH EMINENT DOMAIN. IF YOU'RE INVOLVING A HOUSE OR A BUSINESS VERSUS JUST A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND THEN FINALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT COST.

OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS THAT'S OWNED THAT A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT FROM THE ACQUISITION, AS WELL AS WHATEVER CHANGES THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE TO THAT LAND TO BE ABLE TO PUT A STATION ON IT. AND AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, ULTIMATELY THOSE COSTS GET PASSED THROUGH TO THE RATEPAYERS. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A UTILITY PERSPECTIVE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CHECKING OFF THOSE BOXES. AND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY CHECKS OFF ALL THOSE BOXES. AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS ASKING FOR CONCURRENCE FROM COUNCIL WITH REGARDS TO PURSUING THE ACQUISITION OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT ALSO AUTHORIZATION FOR THE POTENTIAL. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I USE THE WORD POTENTIAL USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN. OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND COME TO A NEGOTIATION WITH REGARDS TO THE VALUE OF THAT, THAT LAND. AND I THINK, AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, THAT WE HAVE ACTIVITIES NOT JUST WITHIN THE CITY OF GARLAND, BUT OUTSIDE THE CITY AND ACROSS

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MAYOR HEDRICK, MAYOR PRO TEM. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON.

I'M ABOUT TO TAKE THIS. AND. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL SWITCH TO THE MANUAL METHOD. ALL RIGHT, I ASKED THE MOTION IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT OTHER PROPERTIES BEFORE CONSIDERING THIS ITEM. AS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. I SEE COUNCIL MEMBERS DUTTON, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBER BASS IN FAVOR. THAT MOTION FAILS. WE'LL GO THEN TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS. AS DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ORT PREVIOUSLY

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[6. Appointment, Contract, Duties, and Employment of the City Manager]

THIS ITEM WE'RE GOING TO DO IN TWO PARTS. FIRST PART IS TO CONSIDER AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION ON THE APPOINTMENT, REAPPOINTMENT, CONTRACT DUTIES AND EMPLOYMENT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER. MAYOR HEDRICK, I DO HAVE A SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM. DO YOU HAVE SPEAKER.

YES. YES. THIS FIRST ITEM SIX A IS DISCUSSING DELIBERATE WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RENEW THE CONTRACT OF THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM, CARL SMITH. MY NAME IS CARL SMITH, 2216 RICH OAK DRIVE. THE CITIZENRY OF GARLAND HAS LOST TRUST IN THE CITY MANAGER, A SEEMINGLY ARROGANT ATTITUDE MAKES PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY WORK FOR HIM RATHER THAN HIM. FOR THEM, A LEADER IS JUDGED BY HIS FAILURES AND THE CULTURE.

HE INSTILLS. FAILURES ARE SPRING CREEK PRESERVE, MD PATHWAYS DEBACLE, PUSH TO PRIVATIZE EMS, WHICH I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF ATHLETICO DALLAS PROJECT CULTURAL ISSUES, POOR EMPLOYEE MORALE, AND STAFF NOT BRINGING ALL THE OPTIONS TO THE COUNCIL, REPLACING DEPARTMENTS WITH CONTRACTORS. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE. DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL NOT RENEW THE CONTRACT OF JUDE REX FOLLOWING THE EXPIRATION OF ITS TERM ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2025. I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE COUNCIL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE FOR DISCUSSION. HIT THE WRONG BUTTON. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, WE WILL SCRAP THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE EVENING. AS THE MOTION IS TO NOT RENEW THE CONTRACT FOLLOWING THE EXPIRATION ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2025. ASK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. WE'LL GO TO PART SIX. B OF THIS ITEM IS DISCUSS AND DELIBERATE THE APPOINTMENT OF MIKE BETTS AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MOTT. THANYOU, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINT MIKE BETTS AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. THAT ITEM IS UNANIMOUS. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO SAY, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF GARLAND, I DO EXTEND MY SINCERE GRATITUDE FOR MR. JUDD RICKS FOR HIS DEDATED SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. DURING HIS TENURE, HE HAS HELPED ADVANCE SEVERAL KEY INITIATIVES, INCLUDING CONTINUATION OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM AND THE PASSAGE OF THE 2025 BOND PROGRAM. BUT WE DO APPRECIATE HIS CONTRIBUTIONS, AND WE DO WISH HIM THE VERY BEST IN THE FUTURE ENDEAVORS. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.

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AFTER THIS EDUCATION ENGAGEMENT PERIOD, THE COUNCIL WILL VOTE AGAIN. THAT DECISION IS EXPECTED IN EARLY 2026. IF THE COUNCIL IS NOT APPROVED AT THAT TIME, THE CITY WILL EXERCISE ITS RIGHT TO TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT. THIS PHASED APPROACH ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE MD HEALTH PATHWAY, SHARE FEEDBACK AND HELP GUIDE COUNCIL'S FINAL DECISIONS. GOOD.

LET'S GET ANOTHER VOTE. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEAKING OUT AND I HOPE EVERYONE IS LISTENING TO US. OKAY, COMMENT ON CHRIS BEARD, PLEASE. CHRIS BEARD, YOUR TOWN HALL TURNED INTO AN AUDITION FOR YOUR BEST FRIEND SHARONDA GREEN TO BECOME THE HIRED SHILL SLASH AMBASSADOR FOR MD HEALTH PATHWAYS DOCTOR DICK PARROTT OF MD HEALTH PATHWAYS RESTARTED YOUR HEART AND SAVED YOUR LIFE. YOU VOTED KNOWING THAT AND CLEARLY YOU CANNOT BE IMPARTIAL.

COUNCILMAN MORE. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AND HAVING THE GOOD SENSE TO VOTE NO ON THIS. IN THE FIRST VOTE, YOU CLEARLY STAND WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, WE WOULD LIKE MORE FEEDBACK FROM YOU. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU STAND AT THIS POINT AFTER WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON. COUNCILMAN LUCHT, I WANT TO COUNCILWOMAN. PARDON ME. YOU WERE REALLY HAPPY TO SPEND A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS ON THIS, AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS KIND OF A JOKE TO YOU WHEN YOU GOT CORRECTED AND WAS TOLD IT WAS $6 PER HOUSEHOLD, YOU QUIPPED THAT EVEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK IT OUT BETWEEN US, IT'S A GOOD PRICE TO PAY TO FIGURE IT OUT. I DON'T WANT TO BE AN EXPERIMENT. I DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS WAS TAKEN SERIOUSLY. THEN IT WENT ON. YOU SAID, I HOPE. ALL RIGHT. DOCTOR DIRK PARROTT STATES, IF IT DOESN'T WORK IN GARLAND, IT DESTROYS MY BUSINESS. COUNCILWOMAN LUFT, YOU ANSWERED, WELL, I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE. AND THEN DOCTOR PARROTT GOES ON ABOUT HOW EVERYONE WILL LOOK TO WHAT HAPPENS IN GARLAND. I SAY TO YOU, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK HERE BECAUSE THE GARLAND TAXPAYERS WILL NOT STAND FOR BEING FORCED INTO THIS PROGRAM, PERIOD. WE DIDN'T GET A CHOICE. COUNCILWOMAN DUTTON, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE INTERACTIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT THIS. I INFORMED YOU IN WRITING THAT OUR OWN LOCAL DOCTORS ADVISED US AGAINST USING THIS SERVICE. AND YOUR RESPONSE AND I QUOTE, OF COURSE, THEY DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THEIR OWN POCKETS. WE TRUST OUR DOCTORS HERE. I DON'T THINK THAT RESPONSE IS APPROPRIATE. THEN YOU SAID TO ME, AND I QUOTE, YOU SEEM AS THOUGH YOU NEED A MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO SUM UP, PLEASE. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THE POINT THERE, WE'VE MADE IT. I WAS TOLD TO GET A MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER AND OPT BACK IN TO GET IT. THAT IS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE. WE HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN BY COUNCILMAN THOMAS.

WHEN WE TRY TO TALK ABOUT THINGS ON FACEBOOK, AND HE COUNTS OUR VOTES AND HUMILIATES US, WE JUST WANT SOME REAL ANSWERS. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE MD HEALTH PATHWAYS IS IN CHARGE OF THE CITY RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL, DUE TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING OR RESPONDING TO ANY OF THE SPEAKERS BECAUSE THE ITEMS WERE NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS TONIGHT? YES, SIR. CARL SMITH. I CAN TELL YOU MY NAME AGAIN. YES, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 2216 RICHARD DRIVE. NOW THAT WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF ONE ISSUE, WE'RE CONCERNED OUR CITY GOVERNMENT GOING TO ANOTHER ONE. EMPTY PATHWAYS. WHY DID THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY PRESENT EMPTY PATHWAYS TO CHRIS OTT, A FIRST TIME COUNCIL MEMBER? AND WHY DID MD GET PRESENTED TO COUNCIL WITHOUT HARDLY ANY PUBLIC OUTREACH? OR THE FIRE CHIEF WAS WORKING ON A PRESENTATION OF RIGHT SITE.

ANOTHER OPTION WITHOUT BID OR CONSIDERATION. IF HE WAS WORKING ON A PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF KNEW ABOUT IT. THERE ARE TOWN HALLS AND PROPAGANDA ALL OVER THE PLACE NOW THAT IT'S PASSED. WHERE WAS IT BEFORE? WHERE WERE THE RESPONSE LETTERS? IN 30 YEARS? I'VE NEVER RECEIVED A RESPONSE LETTER, AND I'VE HAD CONSTRUCTION RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE. OPT OUTS ARE IN EXCESS OF 2400 AND STILL IN ITS INFANCY IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY KNOWLEDGE. IN THE LAST WORK SESSION WITH MD HEALTH, IT WAS STATED THAT

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EXCUSE ME. THE CURRENT PLAN WILL ONLY MAKE MD HEALTH CARE RICH. THIS IS. EXCUSE ME. THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO STOP THE CORRUPTION AND EXPLOITATION OF ITS CITIZENS IN ORDER TO PLEASE A CORPORATION. WE ALSO DEMAND TO KNOW WHY THE CITY AND MD HEALTH HAVE BEEN BLOCKING PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR OPINION ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. AND EVEN IF YOU OPT OUT OF THIS PROGRAM, YOUR TAX DOLLARS WILL STILL GO TO MANAGING THE PROGRAM AFTER THE FIRST SIX MONTHS. ANY EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE ADDED TO MANAGE IT ARE ON OUR DIME. ON YOUR TAX DOLLARS. SO IT AND ALL YOU'LL GET BACK FOR IT IS GETTING THE SINS UP TO $480,000 OF YOUR MONEY TO MD PATHWAYS. SO DO THE RIGHT THING AND TAKE US OUT OF THIS DEBACLE. THANK YOU SIR.

MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, JOHN GARZA? I'VE NOTICED THIS TIME. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK JOHN GARZA, 5509. REGARDING THE PULL OUT ELECTIONS IN THE OTHER CITIES. I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DISCUSS AND NOT RUSH TO ACTION REGARDING DART, BUT I AM CONCERNED WITH SOME OF THE OPINIONS AND ATTITUDES EXPRESSED BY MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL. AT THE LAST WORKSHOP.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR DART REGARDING INTERACTIONS IT HAS WITH OTHER CITIES. HOWEVER, AS A FREQUENT RIDER, A CITIZEN OBSERVER OF THE INTERACTIONS, AND JUST TAKING A CURSORY LOOK AT THE FINANCES OF SAID CITIES, I CAN SAY WITHOUT MUCH HESITATION THAT THESE CITIES ARE ACTING IN BAD FAITH. IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM CAN ANY OF THESE CITIES REPLICATE, OR GARLAND FOR THAT MATTER, OR REPLICATE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE DART PROVIDES WITH WITH THE PENNY. AS FAR AS LOOKING AT MICROTRANSIT MOVING FORWARD, I CAN SPEAK FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. IT'S AN AWFUL SOLUTION. IT DOES NOT, DOES NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM SERVE THE CITIZENS THAT OF THE COMMUNITIES IT SERVES AS ITS SOLE, AS A SOLE. SOLUTION. I'VE TAKEN BEFORE, AND IT'S IT'S OFTEN IT'S PROMISED 10 TO 20 MINUTE. WAIT FOR A RIDE. BUT THE REALITY IS, IS IF IT COMES, IT'S MORE LIKE 30, 40, 50 MINUTES TO GET A RIDE WITH MICROTRANSIT. JUST TODAY. JUST TODAY, I USED GO ZONE IN LEWISVILLE AND A TEN MINUTE TRIP VIA UBER. BE MIND PAYING. YOU KNOW $20 TO UBER WOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT TEN MINUTES. IT TOOK AN HOUR TO USE THE GO ZONE JUST BECAUSE IT IT TOOK ABOUT 35 MINUTES JUST TO GET A RIDE THERE. SO LOOKING YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THIS I KNOW THE COUNCIL SOME MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WERE LOOKING AT. HIRING CONSULTANT TO CONSULT THEM ON ON VIA. I'LL SAVE YOU THE MONEY.

IT'S IT'S A BAD IT'S A BAD CHOICE FOR GARLAND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS TONIGHT? YES, SIR. WE HAVE THREE MORE.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PHILIP DRYDEN? PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. PHILIP DRYDEN, I LIVE AT 2016 WESTCHESTER DRIVE. AND I'M HERE TO ALSO TALK TO YOU ABOUT DART. I LIVE WITH MY WIFE AND OUR TWO YEAR OLD DAUGHTER IN OUR HOME IN DISTRICT FIVE. EVERY MORNING I RIDE MY BIKE UP GLENBROOK GLENBROOK, DRIVE THROUGH OUR BEAUTIFUL SQUARE INTO DOWNTOWN GARLAND RAIL STATION. FROM THERE, I RIDE THE TRAIN TO MY JOB AT IN DALLAS MEDICAL DISTRICT, AND DART IS TREMENDOUSLY VALUABLE TO ME AND MY FAMILY. HAVING THIS SAFE AND RELIABLE RAIL SERVICE ENABLES

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OBVIOUSLY INSURANCE AS WELL. IT SAVES ME THE STRESS OF DRIVING ON 75. IT SAVES ME TIME. THE TRAIN GETS TO UT SOUTHWESTERN FASTER THAN A CAR ON MOST DAYS, AND AS I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AS YOU GO ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS REGARDING DART GOING FORWARD, PLEASE REMEMBER HOW VALUABLE DART IS TO ME AND PEOPLE LIKE ME, AND HOW VALUABLE MEMBERSHIP IN IN DART IS AS WELL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, AMANDA BROOKS. NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. AMANDA BROOKS, 2513 PECAN MEADOW DRIVE. I'M A SOFTWARE ENGINEER IN DALLAS, AND MOST DAYS I TAKE THE DART FROM DOWNTOWN GARLAND ALL THE WAY INTO DOWNTOWN DALLAS. IT SAVES MONEY, TIME AND TRAFFIC, AND DRIVING IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS IS VERY UNENJOYABLE AND DOESN'T FEEL VERY SAFE TO ME. IT'S ALSO VERY NICE TO BE ABLE TO STOP HERE IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND ON MY WAY HOME WITHOUT NEEDING TO DRIVE MORE. I CAN GO TO THE LIBRARY THAT JUST OPENED. I CAN STOP AT THE ICE CREAM SHOP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY RECENTLY. I CAN AGREE THAT DART IS NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM, BUT I THINK THE ACTIONS OF PLANO, IRVING AND OTHER CITY COUNCILS CALLING FOR THE ELECTIONS ARE SHORT SIGHTED.

THEY DON'T HAVE WORKABLE PLANS FOR ALTERNATIVES, AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE TO PAY MONEY INTO DART FOR YEARS, SO THEY DON'T EVEN GET TO FREE UP ALL OF THEIR BUDGET JUST BY LEAVING AND ACTING LIKE THEY'RE ISLANDS. WHEN COMMUNITIES SHOULD COOPERATE WITH EACH OTHER IS A SHAME, IN MY OPINION. ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND MANY OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE GARLAND CONTINUES TO ACT IN GOOD FAITH AND GOOD SENSE DESPITE OTHER COUNCIL'S CONTENTIOUS DECISIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

MA'AM. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, BILL DAVIS? ALL RIGHT, SIR? NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS BILL DAVIS. I LIVE AT 414 TULANE STREET IN GARLAND. I WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE MD PATHWAYS COMPONENT. I THINK IT NEEDED MORE CONSIDERATION BEFORE IT WAS PASSED. AND ANYWAY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMPONENTS. I ALSO AM CONCERNED ABOUT CUTTING BACK OR GOING TO A THIRD PARTY FOR THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY PROVIDES.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT MISTAKE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A VERY GOOD FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SYSTEM. AND THEN FINALLY ON THE DART, I DON'T HONESTLY DRIVE RIDE IT VERY MUCH. I THINK THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR DISCUSSING HOW BEST TO UTILIZE THE BUS SERVICES AND THE TRAIN SERVICE. I WOULD THINK WE'D NEED MORE SAFETY AND MORE SECURITY AND FAIR OR REVENUE RETENTION COMPONENTS FOR THEM, BECAUSE I THINK THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT I'VE SEEN THAT THEY DON'T PROVIDE AND ARE PROVIDED A LESS THAN DESIRABLE LEVEL. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS IS TO IMPROVE THEIR SERVICE, THEIR SAFETY AND THEIR SECURITY THROUGH THE SYSTEM. I KNOW THAT GETTING TO THE AIRPORT IS MUCH MORE CONVENIENT ON DART THAN IT IS TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE TRAFFIC AND FIND A PARKING SPOT OUT THERE. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

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