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NOVEMBER 24TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AS IS OUR CUSTOM, WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH PRAYER AND PLEDGE. TONIGHT'S PRAYER PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. THANK YOU. SIR. MR. BALLARD, PRAYER. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRAY WITH ME. FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIFT UP OUR REQUEST. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIFT OUR REQUEST TO YOU. PLEASE BLESS EACH PERSON IN THIS CHAMBER TONIGHT. FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE SAFETY WE ENJOY UNDER THE FIRE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS OF GARLAND. THE MILITARY FORCES OF OUR GREAT NATION. I ASK YOUR BLESSINGS AND PROTECTION FOR EACH OF THEM.
FATHER, BLESS OUR CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL WHO REPRESENT EACH OF US WHO LIVE IN THIS CITY.
THANK YOU FOR THIS SEASON OF THANKS. AS WE CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING THIS WEEK. FATHER, BLESS THIS MEETING TONIGHT AND WE WHO SERVE OUR CITY. IN CHRIST'S NAME I PRAY. AMEN.
FACE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL, GOOD. WELL, GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING, IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK TONIGHT, IF YOU'LL FILL OUT ONE OF THESE SPEAKER CARDS AND HAND IT TO TH PLANNING COMMISSIONER. SECRETARY, YOU CAN CALL YOUR NAME. THEN COME UP. WE HAVE A MICROPHONE THERE.
PLEASE SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE, AND WE FIRST NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS. WE HAVE NO APPLICANTS TONIGHT, BUT ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK, YOU'LL HAVE
[a. November 10, 2025 Plan Commission Minutes]
THREE MINUTES TO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. ITEM ONE A NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES APPROVAL. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. YEAH. COMMISSIONER ABEL, MOTION TO. COME ON. IT DIDN'T.YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 10TH MINUTES, SECOND AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. ALL RIGHTY. PLEASE VOTE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. NOW, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA,
[a. GDC Amendment ORD 25-08]
I'LL READ IT OUT. ITEM TWO A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO SEVERAL GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTIONS AS IT RELATES TO SENATE BILL 840 AND MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS. STAFF HAS ASKED THAT WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO OUR DECEMBER 8TH MEETING. EXCUSE ME SO THEY CAN CONTINUE LEGAL REVIEW OF THE PROVISIONS. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CAME DOWN SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT ITEM? OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO DECEMBER 8TH MEETING. WELL, ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER ABEL PLUGGED IN FIRST, SO GO FOR IT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE ORDINANCE 2508 TO THE DECEMBER 8TH MEETING. AND I HEARD A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON. MOTION IS TO POSTPONE THE ITEM.[b. South Garland Lakeside Area Plan]
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM TWO B SOUTH GARLAND LAKESIDE AREA PLAN.HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE SOUTH GARLAND LAKESIDE AREA PLAN.
GOOD EVENING. ALL RIGHT. SO SOUTH GARLAND LAKESIDE AREA PLAN. FULL DISCLOSURE WHEN THIS PLAN WAS BEING DEVELOPED, THAT WAS A LITTLE BEFORE MY TIME. SO I'LL GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENT.
I'LL GO THROUGH IT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO PARKS OR OR ANYTHING ELSE OR EXPANSION, WE HAVE OUR ACM ANDY HESTER HERE WITH US
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AND OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR, PAUL LUDTKE HERE WITH US. SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HELP ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL. IN THE INITIALLY WE WERE CALLING THIS PLAN PG EAST BRANCH PLAN, KIND OF MIMICKING THE PG EXPANSION PROJECT. HOWEVER, WHEN WE WENT AND MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE FELT STRONGLY THAT THEY WANTED TO SOUND MORE LIKE SOUTH GARLAND OR SCREAM SOUTH GARLAND SO THAT THEY CAN FEEL THE PLAN. THEY CAN OWN THE PLAN. THAT'S WHEN WE WE AGREED, AND WE HAD UPDATED THE TITLE OF THE PLAN TO SOUTH GARLAND LAKESIDE AREA PLAN, AND TO CAPTURE THAT EXCITING ELEMENT OF THE LAKE THAT'S OUT THERE. WE ALSO WANTED TO HAVE THAT SETTING SAIL, THAT LITTLE, LITTLE THING THAT CAN GET RESIDENTS EXCITED ABOUT THE PLAN. SO A LITTLE BIT OF THE ABOUT THE BASELINE, WHY THIS PLAN WAS INITIATED, HOW IT CAME ABOUT. SO THIS PLAN LARGELY PRECIPITATED FROM THE PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE EXTENSION. THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BY THE NORTH TEXAS NORTH TEXAS TOLLWAY AUTHORITY AND TO AND THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO DISPLACE SEVERAL CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY EXISTING. SO WHEN WE GOT TO LEARN ABOUT THAT, WHEN WE GOT TO LEARN ABOUT THE IMPACT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET AHEAD OF IT. WE CAN HAVE A PLAN THAT NOT ONLY MAKE UP FOR THOSE LOST PROPERTY TAXES, THAT THAT EXPANSION WOULD COST, BUT ALSO TO SURPLUS WHAT WE HAVE IN A LONG RANGE VISION. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GENESIS OF WHY THIS PLAN WAS INITIATED. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT THIS IS A VERY LONG RANGE PLAN. YOU WILL SEE VISION AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CANNOT HAVE HAPPEN OVERNIGHT,ANNOT HAPPEN IN ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS OR EVEN FIVE YEARS. IT IS A VERY LONG RANGE PLAN. BUT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, IT WAS CONTEMPLATED THAT THIS IS A SPECIAL AREA. THIS IS WHERE OUR LAKE IS. THIS COULD BECOME A DESTINATION.THIS HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL. AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK FOR A LONG TERM IMPLEMENTATION. SO THE THE PLAN WAS DONE WITH THE MINDSET OF WE WANT TO THINK BIG. WE WANT TO DREAM BIG. SO AGAIN, BECAUSE IT ALL KIND OF STARTED OFF WITH THE PGT EXTENSION, WE WANTED TO SHOW HERE WHAT THEY HAVEN'T. I'M NOT AWARE THAT THEY THEY HAVE NOT FULLY FINALIZED THAT. BUT WE BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE WHERE THE EXPANSION IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE. SO AS YOU COULD SEE HERE, THERE ARE EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DISPLACED BECAUSE OF THIS. BUT LOOKING AT THE LOOKING AT A LITTLE BIT OF BRIGHT SIDE, THIS ALSO DOES PROVIDE AN EXTENDED FRONTAGE. IT DOES PROVIDE MORE CONNECTIVITY TO THE AREA. SO AGAIN BECAUSE THIS IS OUT OF OUR HANDS, THIS IS HAPPENING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE WANTED TO LEVERAGE THAT. SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE COMMERCIAL AREAS. THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH ARE MOSTLY SITUATED HERE. THERE ARE SEVERAL MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS HERE HERE THROUGHOUT THE AREA, AND THERE ARE COUPLE OF PARKS AND OPEN SPACE FACILITIES BY THE CITY. WHILE WORKING ON THE PLAN, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER PLANS AND DOCUMENTS THAT WERE REFERRED TO SO THAT WE WERE NOT SUGGESTING SOMETHING THAT'S IN CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER PLAN AT THAT TIME? ENVISION GARLAND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM 2012 WAS REFERRED TO.
HOWEVER, YOU ALL ARE AWARE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A COMP PLAN UPDATE. SO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE CURRENT PLAN, CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EFFORT AND THIS PLAN ARE SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER AS WELL. THERE IS COHESIVENESS. THEY'RE NOT IN CONFLICT. THERE IS A 2017 I-30 CORRIDOR CATALYST AREA PLAN THAT WAS REFERRED TO AS WELL. WE HAVE THE PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURAL ARTS STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN THAT WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, THE TRAILS AND BIKEWAYS MASTER PLAN AND CULTURAL ARTS PLAN, AND THE REASON SUCH A WIDE VARIETY OF PLANS WERE CONSIDERED IS BECAUSE THE VARIETY OF CURRENT LAND USES THAT ARE THERE, THE TYPE OF POTENTIAL THAT THIS AREA HAS, NOT JUST THE LAKE, BUT ASSOCIATED TRAILS AND SHARED USE PATHS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CAN MAKE THIS AREA TRULY SPECIAL. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE NOT ONLY CAPTURE IT IN THIS PLAN, BUT WHATEVER WE HAVE IN OUR CITYWIDE PLAN OR OTHER MASTER PLAN. THOSE ARE ALSO CAPTURED IN THIS PLAN. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BASELINE ANALYSIS. AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF THE SINGLE FAMILY, THIS IS THE EXISTING. THIS IS WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY.
THESE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS WINDSOR PARK. THIS IS WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS ARE. MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS ARE IN MAROON AND RED. YOU COULD SEE
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THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS. THIS IS OWNERSHIP. WHAT YOU SEE IN DARK BLUE. THOSE ARE CITY OWNED PARCELS OBVIOUSLY. WHAT'S IN YELLOW? THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY OWNERSHIP. WHAT YOU U SEE IN PEACH, THOSE ARE ONGE. THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL OWNERSHIP. WHAT YOU SEE IN MAROON AND GREEN, THOSE PARCELS ARE OWNED BY TWO ENTITIES. SO EVENTUALLY WE WILL NEED TO WORK WITH ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS AND DIFFERENT ENTITIES TO MAKE THIS PLAN HAPPEN. PARKS AND TRAILS. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT. WE HAVE WINDSURF BAY PARK HERE, WE HAVE JOHN PAUL JONES PARK, HERE, WE HAVE THE BOAT DECK HERE. SO ALL OVER THIS IS THE SHORELINE. SO THERE'S JUST SO MUCH POTENTIAL. WE HAVE SOME EXISTING FACILITIES. WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME FUTURE FACILITIES THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE THROUGH THIS PLAN, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE WAS AN OVERALL ROBUST ANALYSIS OF THE PARKS AND TRAILS, WHAT'S EXISTING AND WHAT COULD BE PROPOSED. WITH THIS AREA BEING LARGELY DEVELOPED, UTILITIES ALREADY MOSTLY OUT THERE, AS YOU COULD SEE THROUGHOUT THE AREA, WHAT YOU SEE IN ORANGE, THAT ON COURSE AREA AND WHAT YOU SEE IN LIGHT BLUE IS GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT. THOROUGHFARE PLAN. ANOTHER BIG COMPONENT, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE WHOLE PLAN HAPPENED BECAUSE OF TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT. SO THIS AREA IS ALSO SPECIAL BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT THROUGH THE THOROUGHFARE NETWORK. IT HAS I-30 THAT CONNECTS IT TO DALLAS AND ROCKWALL. IT HAS GEORGE BUSH THAT CONNECTS IT TO PLANO AND. ROWLETT. WE HAVE ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY LOCAL STREETS, BUT WE HAVE WHAT YOU SEE IN BLUE. THOSE ARE THE MINOR THOROUGHFARES THAT ARE PROVIDING ACCESS INSIDE THIS STUDY AREA THAT WE HAVE THE PROPOSED TRAIL NETWORK AND SHARED USE PATH. IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE SIDEWALKS EXISTING HERE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. WHAT YOU SEE IN BLUE ALONG I-30, THAT'S THE REGIONAL WEB NETWORK THAT NCT COG IS WORKING ON. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S A REGIONAL EFFORT, BUT WE'LL APPLY IN THIS AREA. BUT WE ALSO HAVE ALL THESE CONNECTING PROPOSED TRAILS, SHARED USE PATHS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH TO MAKE THIS AREA A TRUE DESTINATION. MARKET ANALYSIS OF THE AREA, BECAUSE OF THE LAKE, BECAUSE OF THE SHORELINE, BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTIVITY, BECAUSE OF WHERE THIS STUDY AREA IS, THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A DESTINATION DISTRICT BECAUSE IT CAN BECOME A DESTINATION DISTRICT. IT DOES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT T COULD EMPLOY THE RESIDENTS, IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION ACCESS WILL OBVIOUSLY INCREASE LONG TERM OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE. AND THEN WITH THE WITH THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT AREA, HOSPITALITY COULD ALSO BE AN ADDED BENEFIT FOR THAT VISION. WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES OR CONSTRAINTS AND CONSTRAINTS? THERE ARE CITY OWNED PARCELS THAT ARE THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO PLAN FOR LAND THAT THE CITY OWNS, BUT THERE ARE ALSO PUBLIC SPACES OUT THERE. AGAIN, IT'S POSITIONED ALONG LAKE RAY HUBBARD AND THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S OUT THERE, AND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN FUTURE. THOSE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES CONSTRAINED. IT IS A DEVELOPMENT. IT IS LARGELY DEVELOPED. IT'S ABOUT 820 ACRES. IT IS A LARGE AREA. A LOT OF IT IS DEVELOPED ALREADY. SO REDEVELOPING IT ALWAYS COMES WITH ITS OWN CONSTRAINTS AND CHALLENGES. AND AGAIN THERE ARE SOME VACANT LAND THAT THE CITY DOESN'T OWN. SO THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES. I WOULDN'T SAY CHALLENGES, BUT OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THOSE ENTITIES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO HOW ARE WE PLANNING TO MAKE THIS AREA LOOK LIKE THIS MAP THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW? THAT IS AN ALL IN, NOT ALL ENCOMPASSING, BUT IT ENCOMPASSES MOST OF THE KEY THINGS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AND THOUGHT OUT FOR THAT AREA.COLORS. GENERALLY, THE LEGENDS ARE WHAT YOU USED TO SEE. LIGHT YELLOW IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. ORANGE IS MIXED RESIDENTIAL, LIGHT TEAL BLUE GREEN THIS COLOR, THIS COLOR, THIS COLOR. THIS IS MIXED USE. ALONG THE CORRIDORS. COMMERCIAL. MIXED. COMMERCIAL. WE HAVE BROWN, WHICH IS URBAN CORE OR TOWN CENTER TYPE DEVELOPMENT. SO THOSE ARE HOW THIS AREA IS
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BEING ENVISIONED TO BE REDEVELOPED IN A LONG TERM PLAN. THIS ALSO SHOWS SOME OF THE PROPOSED CONNECTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BLACK DOTTED LINES. THOSE ARE NEW RIGHT OF WAY OR NEW CONNECTIONS OR EXISTING CONNECTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE EXTENDED, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WHAT YOU SEE IN DIFFERENT KIND OF RED AND KIND OF DOTTED THINGS THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE AREA, THOSE ARE EITHER SHARED USE PATHS OR ON STREET NETWORK OR ONLY ALONG I-30, AS FAR AS I KNOW. BUT THOSE ARE OTHER TYPE OF NON-MOTORIZED MODE OF TRANSPORTATION THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS AREA. SO WHAT ARE THE BIG THEMES LIKE FROM A PLANNING LENS? OBVIOUSLY WE LOOKED AT LAND USE. WE LOOKED AT TRANSPORTATION AND CIRCULATION, URBAN DESIGN AND OPEN SPACE WHERE BIG CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL. AND ONE OTHER THING, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY TALKED ENOUGH ABOUT DESTINATION AND FOR IT TO BECOME A DESTINATION, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO ONLY PROVIDE THE USES OR THE RESTAURANTS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE WAYFINDING AND BRANDING AND REALLY CREATE THAT TRUE IDENTITY FOR THIS AREA ITSELF. SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR CORE PLANNING ELEMENTS THAT WERE INVESTIGATED THROUGH THIS PLAN. OVERALL FOR LAND USES, WE LOOKED AT PROVIDING MORE LAKEFRONT RECREATION AND CONNECT THEM THROUGH TRAILS, MORE SHOPPING AND EATING DESTINATION, DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS. OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF HOMES ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT BY THE EXPANSION, SO THEY HAVE TO BE REPLACED. THEY HAVE TO BE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE HOUSES, PLUS SOME MORE FOR THIS AREA TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO EVENTUALLY LOOK INTO IT FROM A QUALITY OF LIFE PERSPECTIVE AND IMPROVE THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR TRANSPORTATION AND CIRCULATION. THAT IS, AGAIN, ONE OF THE UNDERLYING THINGS UNDERLYING THEMES FOR THIS PLAN. THERE IS A CONSIDERATION FOR EXTENDING MARVIN LEVIN, MARVIN LOVING DRIVE, AND THAT WILL PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTENDED CIRCULATION BETWEEN THESE AREAS WITHIN THE STUDY AREA. AND PGBD EXTENSION WILL COME WITH SOME FRONTAGE ROADS, SO WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE. AND THEN THE PLAN ALSO LAYS OUT A PLAN FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND ENHANCEMENT ON LOCUST GROVE. FOR URBAN DESIGN AND OPEN SPACE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES THAT ARE A MUST. WITH THIS TYPE OF THEME THAT WE ARE GOING WITH, THERE HAS TO BE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, TRAIL CONNECTIONS, WATER, WATER, WATER IS AGAIN ONE OF THE RECURRING THEMES OF IT. SO THERE NEED TO BE OPEN SPACES THAT ARE FRONTING THE WATER THAT CAN LOOK OVER THE WATER. AND BOARDWALKS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONSIDERED FOR THIS, BECAUSE THAT HAS A REALLY MEANINGFUL WAY TO BRING IN VISITORS FROM WITHIN THE AREA AND FROM OUTSIDE OF THE AREA, AND REALLY GIVE THEM AN EXPERIENCE OF BEING CLOSE TO THE WATER, WAYFINDING AND BRANDING THAT WE WE HAVE DONE IT SUCCESSFULLY IN OUR DOWNTOWN. OF COURSE, THERE'S THAT PROJECT ISN'T ENDED. WE'LL CONTINUE WORK TOWARD IT, BUT SIMILAR TO THAT, THERE WILL BE WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE A WAYFINDING, A DESTINATION THEME FOR THAT AREA ITSELF. WHEN YOU COME IN WESTBOUND THROUGH I-30, THAT IS A GATEWAY TO CITY OF GARLAND. SO THERE NEED TO BE SIGNAGE AND OTHER FEATURES THAT LET PEOPLE KNOW, HEY, YOU'RE IN GARLAND, YOU'RE IN THE LAKE DISTRICT, YOU'RE IN A SPECIAL PLACE THROUGHOUT THE AREA. SOME SIGNATURE BRANDING AND WAYFINDING ELEMENTS WOULD HELP.AND THEN PUBLIC ARTS. IT'S NOT JUST IN HERE. WE ARE BIG ON PUBLIC ARTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
BUT AGAIN, IF WE GO WITH ITS OWN THEME, THEN THOSE PUBLIC ART SHOULD FOLLOW THAT THEME AS WELL IN THIS AREA. NOW, 820 ACRES IS A LOT. SO IT'S NOT IT. IT IS NOT PRACTICAL TO JUST SAY, ALL OF THIS 820 ACRES OF LAND IS GOING TO LOOK THIS WAY. SO THERE NEEDED TO BE A DEEPER DIVE IN HOW THESE AREAS, EVEN WITHIN THE STUDY AREAS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, THINGS THAT EACH AREA CAN LEVERAGE MORE SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO WITH THAT VIEW AND WITH THAT PERSPECTIVE, THE STUDY AREA WAS DIVIDED INTO FIVE FOCUS AREAS. FOCUS AREA ONE IS HERE THAT IS CALLED ZION POINT FOCUS AREA TWO IS THIS ONE RIGHT THERE. THAT IS THE TRUE GATEWAY. WHEN YOU COME IN THROUGH HERE THAT IS CALLED THE NORTH POINT. WE HAVE THE SOUTH
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POINT HERE. THAT IS AREA THREE. WINDSOR BAY OBVIOUSLY HOLDS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE IN PEOPLE'S MIND AND OUR MIND. THIS ENTIRE AREA, WE WANTED TO HAVE ITS OWN FOCUS AREA. AND AREA FIVE IS LOCUST GROVE. THAT'S THE ONLY SUBAREA OR FOCUS AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LAKEFRONT. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, FOCUS AREA FOUR AND FIVE ARE MORE HEAVILY IMPACTED BY THE EXPANSION THAN THESE OTHER THREE AREAS. SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR FOCUS AREA ONE ZION POINT, THE VISION ZION POINT ZION POINT FOCUSES ON FURTHERING GARLAND'S HOUSING DIVERSITY INITIATIVES AND CONTINUED CONNECTIONS TO LAKE RAY HUBBARD. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS AREA INCLUDES PROPOSALS FOR MIXEDD HOUSING. THOSE ARE IN ORANGE, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE FRONTAGE RIGHT ALONG THE HIGHWAY. SO THOSE ARE MIXED COMMERCIAL IN RED, A SHARED USE PATH AND TRAIL SYSTEM. DEFINITELY. WE HAVE PARK HERE, THE BOAT DOCK AREAS HERE. SO TO CONNECT ALL OF THAT AND BRING IT ALL TOGETHER, WE DO NEED SHARED USE PATH AND TRAIL SYSTEM. SO THOSE ARE THE KEY ELEMENTS FOR THIS FOCUS AREA. AND IN THE LONG TERM, IF THIS AREA DOES END UP DEVELOPING THE WAY IT'S ENVISIONED, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ADD 236 MILLION IN TAXABLE LAND VALUE. FOCUS AREA TWO NAUGHT POINT. THAT IS AGAIN, THE IT IS CAPABLE OF BECOMING THAT BIG GATEWAY FOR CITY OF GARLAND AND THIS STUDY AREA. SO MORE VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS. THE TYPES THAT CAN CREATE THOSE EXCITEMENTS AND DESTINATIONS FOR PEOPLE COMING INTO GARLAND AND FOR GARLAND RESIDENTS AS WELL. THIS HAS THE LAKEFRONT LOCATION. SO REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTERS ON THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY, THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. MARVIN LOVAN EXTENSION THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, THAT CAN HAPPEN HERE AND THAT CAN INCREASE ITS CONNECT THIS AREA'S CONNECTIVITY INSIDE THIS STUDY AREA, THE BOARDWALK FEATURE AND RESTORATION, THERE IS AN EXISTING DOCK. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE RESTORED AND KIND OF ENHANCED FOR IT TO REALLY CREATE THE SENSE OF PLACE THAT WE ARE GOING FOR. AGAIN, GATEWAY SIGNAGE ALONG I-3 DISTRICT BRANDING AND MONUMENT WILL BE KEY IF THIS AREA ENDS UP DEVELOPING THE WAY WE ARE ENVISIONING $114 MILLION IN POTENTIAL TAXABLE LAND. IT IS A PRETTY RENDERING. I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GET CARRIED AWAY BY THIS. IT IT IS A BIG CHANGE FROM WHAT IT IS OUT THERE. IT IS JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEEL OF WHAT COULD BE. BUT IT IS JUST ONE WAY THAT THE AREA CAN LOOK.IF WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE SAYING IN THE PLAN. BUT THIS IS NOT THE ONLY WAY. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE ARE SETTING IN THE PLAN. FOCUS AREA THREE IS THE SOUTH POINT.
THIS IS LOOKED AT AS MORE. THIS COULD BECOME AN URBAN CORE WITH TOWN CENTER TYPE DEVELOPMENTS.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW OR ALIGNED ROADWAYS WITHIN AND BETWEEN THE FOCUS AREAS. THERE COULD BE A MULTI-USE PEDESTRIAN PLAZA HERE, COULD BE DIFFERENT POCKET PARKS AS YOU SEE IN DIFFERENT GREENS HERE. AND THERE COULD BE I THINK THERE WAS A PICTURE EARLIER. THERE COULD BE A SIGNATURE ROUNDABOUT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THIS AREA THAT CAN GIVE THIS AREA A LOT OF MEANING. IF EVERYTHING GOES THE WAY WE PLANNED. POTENTIAL FOR 254 MILLION IN LAND TAXABLE LAND VALUE, SLIGHTLY EXPANDED AND ZOOMED OUT VISION. AGAIN, IT'S ONE WAY OF HOW IT COULD BE. BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY. FOCUS AREA FOUR IS WINDSURF BAY. THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS HEAVILY IMPACTED, THAT COULD BE HEAVILY IMPACTED BY THE EXPANSION.
THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, TO HAVE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN HERE. WINDSURF BAY AREA. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DEVELOP THAT WAY, BUT I DO WANTO THROW IT OUT THERE IF THIS ENDS UP BEING DEVELOPED IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF PARK AREA IN ACREAGE WILL HAVE TO BECOME PARKLAND SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE SAME STUDY AREA, THAT SAME EXACT ACREAGE. SO THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS. THIS COULD BE THIS COULD REMAIN AS IS. AND WHEN THE TIME COMES WHEN SURVEY PARK COULD BE IMPROVED. OR IF THIS ENDS UP HAPPENING, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH, THAT AMOUNT OF PARKLAND WILL HAVE TO BE
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DISTRIBUTED SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT COULD. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE AREA, BUT THE EXACT SAME SAME AMOUNT OF ACREAGE WILL HAVE TO BE OBTAINED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE STUDY AREA. THIS IS MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT BECAUSE IT'S THE WINDSURF BAY PARK. IMPROVE RECREATIONAL PROGRAMING TYPE THINGS WILL BE LOOKED AT AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE. A SIGNATURE BRIDGE CROSSING BETWEEN THIS FOCUS AREA AND THE SOUTH POINT. THE ONE IN FOCUS AREA THREE COULD HAPPEN AND THAT COULD BECOME A BIG DESTINATION. THAT COULD BE GOOD PHOTO OP, AND THAT COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS AREA AS WELL, POTENTIALLY 307 MILLION TAXABLE LAND VALUE INCREASE. HERE'S THE PICTURE ONE MORE TIME. THIS IS JUST A VISIONING EXERCISE. WE'RE NOT OUT THERE SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP WINDSURF BAY THIS WAY. WE'RE SAYING THIS IS ONE WAY THAT IT COULD HAPPEN, BUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WE'LL HAVE TO PROTECT THE ACREAGE THAT WINDSOR BAY CURRENTLY HAS. LAST ONE FOCUS AREA FIVE LOCUST GROVE. THIS IS THE ONLY AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY LAKEFRONT, BUT AGAIN, IMPACTED BY THE EXPANSION, THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE. AGAIN, THERE'S NOT WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. IT'S HAPPENING. THE EXPANSION IS HAPPENING. SO WE NEED TO LEVERAGE THE EXPANSION TO INTRODUCE HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT HERE ALONG THE FRONTAGE. IMPROVEMENT IN LOCUST GROVE IS SOMETHING THAT'S HEAVILY CONSIDERED. COULD BE IT COULD HAVE A CENTRALIZED, OPEN SPACE THAT CAN SERVE BOTH THESE RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, EITHER RESIDENTS OR BUSINESSES IN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT, AND SOME KIND OF UNDERPASS, ART GRINDING INSTALLATIONS. WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE HERE, THOSE ARE ALSO KEY THINGS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF THIS AREA, POTENTIALLY 134 MILLION IN TAXABLE LAND VALUE. INCREASE ME AS A PLANNER. I LOVE PLANTS, BUT A PLAN TO ME IS ONLY GOOD IF IT HAS A ROBUST IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX. AND WHAT I LOOK WHEN I LOOK AT IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX, I WANT TO SEE WHAT ACTION PLANS CAN THIS DOES THIS DOCUMENT HAVE THAT ME AS STAFF OR AN COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL? WE CAN TAKE THOSE ACTION PLANS.AND WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THOSE PLANS. PRETTY PLAN HAS A VISION, BUT WITHOUT THOSE ACTION PLANS, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A ROBUST IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH THIS DOCUMENT DOES HAVE. SO AGAIN, KEYS TO SUCCESS. ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND KEY STAKEHOLDERS. AND THAT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS FOR THIS KIND OF PLAN. WE HAVE WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. WE HAVE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE PRESENTED THE PLAN. WE HAVE GOTTEN THEIR FEEDBACK. IT HAS BEEN ON OUR WEBSITE FOR A WHILE SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND GIVE US FEEDBACK, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ONGOING EVEN WHEN THE IF AND WHEN THE PLAN IS ADOPTED. THAT'S WHEN I WOULD SAY THE TRUE, MORE DETAILED ENGAGEMENT WILL NEED TO START MAKE IT HAPPEN? HOW WOULD THEN E PARTNERSHIPS WORK, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND AGAIN, REMINDING EVERYONE IT IS A 30 TO 50 YEAR PLAN, SO NO TRANSFORMATIONS GOING TO HAPPEN OVER A YEAR OR TWO. WE HAVE MANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO EACH OTHER. SO FOR ONE THING TO HAPPEN THE OTHER THING NEEDS TO HAPPEN FIRST. SO WE HAVE MANY, MANY, MANY DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH OF THE FOCUS AREAS. YOU HAVE IT, BUT ALSO WHEN THE OPPORTUNITIES ARISE. SOMETIMES, AS I SAID, IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S LAND. THEY IT'S A DEVELOPED PIECE OF LAND. THE CITY HAS VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT THERE AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS OUR VISION, LET'S DO IT. BUT IF THEY COME IN, THEY HAVE A ZONING REQUEST AND WE THAT'S OUR CHANCE TO MAKE SURE, HEY, WE HAVE THIS PLAN. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THIS PLAN? WE HAVE THESE ACTION PLANS. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE IN THIS ZONING CASE SO THAT WE ARE IN LINE WITH OUR VISION THAT WE HAVE SET IN THE PLAN? OUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN ALSO SETS OUT SOME FUNDING TOOLS AND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
380 AGREEMENTS, OBVIOUSLY, ARE A COMMON TOOL THAT COULD BE USED TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN. WE ALREADY OWN A GOOD BIT OF LAND THAT IS, THAT IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK. TAX ABATEMENTS. THIS AREA ALREADY HAS A TOURS. I'M NOT FULLY SURE IF IT'S STILL ONGOING AND HE CAN SPEAK TO IT. HE NODDED. SO YES, IF WE END UP HAVING THE.
HOSPITALITY ELEMENT IN HERE, THEN HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, THE HOT TAXES COULD BE FUNDING
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OPPORTUNITY FOR FUNDING TOOL FOR US AND THE CITYWIDE BOND FUNDING. WE ALREADY HAD THE ELECTION AND THE BOND WAS APPROVED. AND AGAIN, ANDY CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.WE ALSO IDENTIFIED SEVERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE BECAUSE OF THE WATER, THE LAKE AND THE PARKS THAT ARE HERE IN THIS STUDY AREA, WE HAVE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO ASK FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF GRANTS FROM TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME RELATED TO NCT, COG AND TEXDOT TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES SET ASIDE. SO THESE ARE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. WE WANTED TO HAVE IT IN THE PLAN SO THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES, WE CAN GO OUT THE WE CAN GO FOR THESE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND SEE WHAT WE COULD GET. SO THE WAY THE IMPLEMENTATION TABLE IS SET OUT, WE HAVE THE ACTION PLANS. WE HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES LIKE IS IT A LAND USE ACTION? IS IT A TRANSPORTATION ACTION? IS IT A WAYFINDING ACTION. THINGS LIKE THAT. WE IDENTIFY KEY ENTITIES AND PARTNERS LIKE WHO WOULD. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALL THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE TRANSPORTATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL. THERE'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT ENTITIES. AND THAT'S JUST FROM THE CITY THERE.
WE HAVE TO PARTNER WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS, THE THE RESIDENTS, THE HOA OR THE OTHER LANDOWNERS THAT ARE OUT THERE. SO THE KEY ENTITIES ARE IDENTIFIED HERE AS WELL. THE TIME FRAME HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED, WHICH IS ALSO GREAT. THAT WAY WE CAN PRIORITIZE AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW VERSUS WHAT WE NEED TO DO FIVE YEARS FROM TODAY. AND THEN ALSO POTENTIAL COST RANGE AND FUNDING SOURCES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED. WE DO HAVE A FEW KIND OF PRIORITIZED RECOMMENDATION, A COUPLE THINGS THAT COMES OUT OF IT. I'VE ALREADY TALKED A LOT ABOUT PARTNERSHIP, SO THAT THAT IS A RECURRING THEME, BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY THIS VISION CAN COME TO FRUITION IS IF WE CAN PARTNER SUCCESSFULLY WITH TEXTA. AND LIKE IF WE WANT TO HAVE THAT GATEWAY SIGNAGE OUT THERE, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THAT, THAT ROADWAY AUTHORITY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PUT THAT SIGN OUT THERE WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE. WE HAVE TO PARTNER WITH COMMERCIAL LAND OWNERS, RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTS OUT THERE, RESIDENTIAL HOAS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO PARTNERSHIP IS A BIG DEAL. SO THAT'S A THEME THROUGHOUT THE THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT. ANOTHER BIG THING IS NOT TOO POPULAR, BUT CITY INITIATED REZONING. AGAIN IT'S WE'RE NOT LOOKING INTO IT AND THINKING, OH THIS ALL OF THIS 820 ACRES CAN BECOME ONE ZONING DISTRICT. THAT'S NOT HOW WE ARE THINKING. BUT IF WE ARE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND REZONE IT THE WAY THAT CAN REFLECT THE VISION THAT WE HAVE SET FOR EACH FOCUS AREA, THAT WILL HELP US A LOT.
THAT THAT'S HOW IF SOMEONE'S COMING TO US FOR A ZONING CASE OR ANY DEVELOPER'S LOOKING AT IT, THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF ASSURANCE THAT THE ZONING IS IN PLACE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS TO GET TO A VISION THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY FLESHED OUT. AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER ACTION ITEM THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL BE LOOKING INTO NEXT YEAR. COORDINATE WITH TEXDOT, THE WAYFINDING AND BRANDING T THEMES THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT ROADWAYS, AND SHARED USE PATHS AND BIKE LANES, ALL OF THAT. SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED TEN PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH WE WILL START NOT WORKING ON, BUT AT LEAST THINKING ABOUT AND SEE WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM THERE. SO THOSE ARE OUT THERE ON THE SLIDE. WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. SO IT'S PAUL AND ANDY. COMMISSIONER DALTON, HAD YOU CLEARED YOUR NAME FROM THE BOARD. WAS THERE FROM BEFORE? OKAY OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. COMMISSIONER ABLE THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS. AND THERE YOU GO. CONCERNING FOCUS AREA NUMBER FOUR, WINDSURF BAY PARK IS NEAR AND DEAR TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. I KNOW I'VE GOT ANDY COMING. SO HERE WE GO.
OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF STRIFE IN THIS AREA RIGHT NOW. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE FEW AREAS THAT GARLAND HAS LEFT THAT ARE PROTECTED PARKLAND WITH LAKE ACCESS. I LIKE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS. I WANT TO PROTECT THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND. I DON'T KNOW IN ANY OF THE OTHER FOCUS AREAS WHERE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT A PARK FOR THE PUBLIC WITH ACCESS TO THE LAKE THAT YOU GET THERE. THOUGHTS ON PROTECTING THAT AREA? A LOT, AS
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YOU CAN IMAGINE AND REMEMBER TO UNPACK THE WINDSOR. SO LET ME TRY TO START AND WORK MY WAY THROUGH THE ISSUES. SO IT'S ABOUT 40 SOMETHING ACRES. IT'S GOT A VARIETY OF CHALLENGES. SO IN THE PARKS AND REC WORLD, THAT SIZE PARK IS TECHNICALLY GOING TO FALL UNDER COMMUNITY LEVEL PARK OR REGIONAL DESTINATION PARK. WELL, WITH THAT COMES A LOT OF TRAFFIC.AND WITH THAT COMES A LOT OF OPERATIONAL COST, NEITHER OF WHICH IS AVAILABLE TO HANDLE.
IF IF WE WERE TO MAGICALLY HAVE $100 MILLION TO DEVELOP THAT PARK. AND I USE THAT NUMBER, BECAUSE TYPICALLY YOU WOULD SEE ANYWHERE FROM 1 MILLION TO $2 MILLION PER ACRE TO DEVELOP A PARK OF OF THIS TYPE, A LITTLE BIT LESS FOR NATURAL AREAS, BUT A LOT MORE FOR THINGS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SEAWALLS AND THAT KIND OF THING FOR STABILIZATION. AND THE MORE INTENSE IT GETS, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS. SO THEN YOU HAVE THE CHALLENGE OF HOW DO YOU PAY FOR IT ABSENT OF ANOTHER BOND. THAT'S THAT'S LIKELY THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO GET PAID FOR OR WITH A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER. THAT'S WHY THE CONSULTANT, YOU KNOW, I THINK SHOWS THIS MUCH HIGHER LEVEL OF USE THAT COULD ALWAYS BE BACKED OFF OF BY PERCENTAGE OR OR ITS ENTIRETY. SO I THINK THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS, IS WHEN YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY PARK, A REGIONAL PARK OF THAT OF THAT SIZE RIGHT NOW, IT YOU'RE DRIVING THAT TRAFFIC THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO IT GETS SOME RELIEF WHEN THE TOLLWAY COMES THROUGH. WE ARE GETTING SOME SOME FRONTAGE ROADS, GETTING FRONTAGE, AND YOU'RE GETTING SOME IMPROVED ON AND OFF RAMPS, BUT IT'S STILL GOING THROUGH RESIDENTIAL REGARDLESS. AND SO IT BECOMES A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT OPERATIONAL LIFT. AND AS YOU ALL RECALL, WE KIND OF ARE WHERE WE ARE AND HOW IT'S MANAGED RIGHT NOW, JUST STRICTLY BECAUSE OF THE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP THERE ON A WARM DAY IS ABSOLUTELY UNMANAGEABLE BY THE RESOURCES, BOTH POLICE, FIRE AND PARKS. SO HAVING SAID THAT, WHAT WHAT WHAT IS ONE WAY TO MANAGE THIS IS, IS TO I WANT TO MAKE TWO VERY IMPORTANT POINTS THAT PEOPLE REMEMBER BEFORE IT TAKES ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN, IS THAT ONE WAY TO DO IT IS YOU COULD LET'S SAY THAT LINE GETS DRAWN SOMEWHERE. LET'S SAY IT'S 50%. 40% OF THE PARK IS SOME TYPE OF OF DEVELOPMENT. AND WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER. IT IS MUCH EASIER TO PAY FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, OR MUCH MORE LIKELY WHEN IT IS BUNDLED WITH A DEVELOPMENT DEAL THAT CAN HELP PAY FOR THE LIFT REQUIRED TO MAKE THE PARK WHAT IT WHAT IT REALLY SHOULD BE BECAUSE THERE'S NO ARGUMENT. IT COULD BE INCREDIBLE. AND THEN THE IMPORTANT PART IS, IS THAT PARKLAND HAS TWO TWO GUARDING STATUTES, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE STATUTE AND STATE STATUTE. AND CHAPTER 26 DOES NOT ALLOW THE DISPOSAL OF PARKLAND, PUBLIC PARKLAND WITHOUT A PROCESS. IT ALSO, OVER THE YEARS HAS RECEIVED SOME PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANT MONEY. VERY SMALL AMOUNT. BUT WHAT FEW IMPROVEMENTS ARE THERE WERE WERE PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANT FUNDS. YOU ARE IN A COVENANT WITH THEM IN PERPETUITY TO MAINTAIN THAT AMOUNT OF ACREAGE OF OPEN SPACE. AND SO THEY HAVE A CONVERSION PROCESS. SO THE VISION IN THIS PLAN, AND IT'S NOT QUITE TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, WOULD SAY, OKAY, LET'S SAY THERE'S 20 ACRES DEVELOPED. YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT 20 ACRES BACK SOMEWHERE THROUGHOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT SOMEWHERE. SO THEN IT WOULD BE CONCEIVABLE THAT YOU COULD CONVERT THAT ACREAGE AND MAKE IT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST CANYONS OF BUILDINGS. AND SO THAT'S THE CONCEPT AND THE THEORY BEHIND THAT. NOW, AS THINGS GO FORWARD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF IT. IT'S JUST PART OF THE PLAN. AND IT'S PART OF THE DECISION MAKERS THAT ARE IN CHARGE AT THAT TIME. BUT I THINK AT THE CONSULTANT'S RECOMMENDATIONS, IT'S EASIER TO SHOW A HIGHER LEVEL OF INTENSITY NOW AND BACK OFF OF IT THAN GO THE OTHER WAY. SO JUST BY SHOWING IT ON THE PLAN, I ASSURE YOU THERE'S NO FUNDS AND NO PLANS TO DO IT. IT SIMPLY MEANS THAT AS THESE POCKETS DEVELOP, IF YOU GET A CHANCE, COULD YOU FIND IT'S UP HERE THAT YOU FIND ONE? FOR ME THAT SHOWS THE WHOLE PLAN AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T MIND. JUST SO I CAN. I'M KIND OF A BIRD'S EYE VIEW. AND I GUESS WHILE YOU'RE SEARCHING MY PLAN HERE LONG TERM, BECAUSE I VOTE AND I GO TO THIS AREA OFTEN. I DON'T WANT WHAT HAPPENED AT ROBERTSON PARK TO HAPPEN HERE. OKAY? THAT AREA, EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS KIDS PLAYED, THEY WENT OUT, THEY FLY KITES, YOU KNOW, THEY PLAYED. THEY DID EVERYTHING THAT THEY COULD BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE LAST AREAS THAT YOU WERE ACTUALLY SURROUNDED BY WATER.
AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY ENJOY THE LAKE. THE VISION IS GREAT, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST THIS AREA IS NEAR AND DEAR, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOT I DON'T WANT TO JUST GUNG HO GO FORWARD WITHOUT SOME KIND OF A WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN THIS
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INTO SAPPHIRE BAY. SO IT'S AN INTERESTING POINT. I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD WITH AND BY SAPPHIRE BAY, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS BY WHAT YOU MEMEAN BY TH. WHAT WE ALL KINDS OF PROMISES THAT NEVER HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PARK BE SOMETHING. SURERE. O I THINK IN SOME OF THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO CONTROL UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY ARE IN A DEVELOPMENT DEAL WITH A DEVELOPER. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, LOTS OF PROMISES GET MADE AND THINGS SHIFT. AND IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE OVER THERE. THE DIRECTION AND THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THE CONSULTANTS WAS JUST WE DID NOT WANT TO COMPETE DIRECTLY. I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU GUYS OUT TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH EVERYBODY. WE WE DIDN'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH IT CONCEPTUALLY. WE FELT LIKE PLACE. WE WERE THINKING, HERE IS A LOT MORE PASSIVE NATURAL STYLE, HAD THE ABILITY TO BUILD IN KIND OF MORE OF A OF AN OUTDOOR, URBAN, MIXED USE LIFESTYLE KIND OF PLACE THAT HAD A LITTLE MORE PASSIVE COMPONENT THAN CRYSTAL LAGOON AND BIG SHINY THINGS. WE FELT LIKE THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY, AND THE REASON I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THIS MAP WAS WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH WINDSURF, CONTROL THESE AREAS IN POCKETS, MEANING THAT AS THEY COME IN, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE HARBOR IN ROCKWALL, THAT'S A MASSIVE PD THAT HAD NO LESS THAN PROBABLY 80 DIFFERENT OWNERSHIPS OF PARCELS OUT THERE. AND SO IT DEVELOPED OVER TIME IN THESE BITS AND PIECES, AND HAD TO WORK WITH THE CHALLENGES OF OF THE NATURE OF BEING ON THE WATERFRONT, WHICH IS CITY OF DALLAS. SO THIS WOULD BE A MUCH BIGGER VERSION OF THAT, WHERE AS THINGS COME IN, THEY GET DONE IN GROUPS THAT MAKE SENSE, AND THEN OVER TIME THE QUILT GETS BUILT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE ULTIMATE PICTURE. SO I THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONCERN YOU HAVE, THAT'S A DOWN THE ROAD ISSUE, MEANING THAT IF WE HAVE A DEVELOPER, A BIRD IN HAND, WE HAVE TO WORK VERY DILIGENTLY FROM THE LEGAL PROCESS AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT WE'VE GOT AN IRONCLAD SITUATION DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW, PREDICT THE FUTURE. BUT I TOTALLY SHARE YOUR CONCERN. I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE OF THAT IN THE OLD DAYS, THAT THAT'S CHANGED DRASTICALLY FROM WHAT WAS PROMISED TO WHAT IS WHAT IS THERE NOW. SO I DON'T THINK YOU'LL FIND ANY DISAGREEMENT FROM ANYBODY THAT WE WE DON'T WANT THAT. RIGHT. I HOPE THAT WAS A LONG ANSWER, BUT I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. NO, I MEAN THAT THAT'S ALONG THE LINES. I JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE 30,000 PEOPLE AT YOUR DOOR AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA IS VERY VOLATILE, BUT IT'S ALSO A HUGE ASSET FOR THAT AREA. SO IT'S A HUGE ASSET WITHOUT A DOUBT. I WOULD LOVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT IN IT'S IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THE REALITIES OF HOW TPAY FOR THINGS AND HOW TO OPERATE THEM. SAME REASON THAT DALLAS HAD A CHALLENGE WITH L.B. ROBERTSON. THEY HAD A VERY DIFFICULT TIME MANAGING IT AND MAINTAINING IT AND HANDLING THE ISSUES THAT WERE OUT THERE, AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER. UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.YEP. THANK YOU. I MAY TRY TO DO HERE IS SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WINDSURF BAY.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS, COMMISSIONER DALTON, ARE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE WINDSURF BAY TOPIC OKAY. COMMISSIONER DALTON'S OKAY. THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF GROUP GROUP TOGETHER SOME OF THE CONCERNS HERE HAVING TO DO WITH THAT PARTICULAR SECTION. COULD YOU BRING UP AREA THREE REAL QUICK FOR ME? OKAY. MY QUESTION IS AREA FOUR WITH THE PARK, HALF OF THAT AREA IS CITY LAND NONTAXABLE. YET AREA FOUR IS SHOWING A HIGHER LAND VALUE THAN THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. AND I'M NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING WHY. IF THE OTHER SIX AREA FOUR IS ALMOST HALF PARK CITY OWNED PROPERTY, HOW IS THAT HIGHER TAX VALUE THAN AREA THREE? THIS IS POTENTIAL INCREASE IN LAND VALUE IF THE AREA DEVELOPS THE WAY THE VISION IS SETTING IT OUT TO BE. SO THIS IS ALL MIXED RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS LAKESIDE COMMERCIAL. THIS IS MIXED USE RIGHT NOW. AND THESE ARE DONE THROUGH COMP NUMBERS. AND HERE WE HAVE THIS IS TOWN CENTER TYPE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS COMMERCIAL. THIS IS LAKESIDE. IT'S JUST THE WAY THE MATH WORKED. AND THIS IS PROBABLY ALSO HIGHER IN ACREAGE THAN THAT. AND HIGHER DENSITY IS BEING PROPOSED HERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW IF I CAN INTERJECT A FOLLOW UP ON
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THE WINDSURF BAY, WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I'M HEARING A LOT OF WHY WE SHOULDN'T OR CAN'T KEEP IT AS A MUCH OF IT AS A PARK. YOU LOOK AT THAT PICTURE THERE. THERE'S JUST A SMALL SECTION OF THAT SHOWN BEING DEVELOPED. IF YOU GO BACK TO 23, IT'S SHOWING A WHOLE LOT MORE BEING DEVELOPED. AGAIN, THIS IS A RENDERING. THIS IS NOT DRAWN TO SCALE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS SIMPLY TO SHOW POTENTIAL WHICH WHICH IS SHOWING ONE THING AND MAPPING OUT ANOTHER. YOU WOULD IF YOU IF ONE OF THESE PICTURES ARE MORE OFFICIAL, IT'S THIS ONE. THIS IS SIMPLY A RENDERING. RIGHT. SO THAT LEADS ME TO THIS IS A LONG TERM THING. WE'RE TALKING 1020 YEARS. I DON'T THINK I'LL BE HERE IN 20, 30, 50 YEARS. AND TURNOVER OF STAFF TURNOVER EVERYBODY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AND SAY WELL IT SAID IT COULD BE COMMERCIAL. LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND DO A LITTLE PIECE HERE A LITTLE PIECE THERE. IT'LL KIND OF BE PIECEMEAL. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW MOST OF THAT STAIN AS PARKLAND, WITH A SMALLER SECTION OF COMMERCIAL THAT COULD EXPAND OUT LATER. NOW, EVEN THE STUDY DOWNPLAYED THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PARK, SAYING ALL OF THE SURVEYS, NOBODY USED IT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. WELL, THAT DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ISSUES OF THE DALLAS PARK SHUTTING DOWN, HOURS BEING OVERFLOWED, THE POOR ACCESS, AND THAT MADE THE PARK NON-VIABLE. NOW, WHAT WE NEED TO DO WHEN TEX-DOT COMES THROUGH IS LOOK AT AN IMPROVEMENT IN LOCUST GROVE AS A CROSS CONNECTION. WE NEED A SECOND CROSS CONNECTION OR EXITS ACROSS UNDERNEATH FROM ONE ACCESS ROAD TO THE OTHER. SO THAT WHOLE PARK AREA IS ACCESSED IN TWO PLACES. AND IF THAT'S ELEVATED HIGHWAY, WE SOLVE SOME OF THE PARKING SITUATION. BUT THIS IS INNOVATIVE. BUT BUILD PARKING UNDERNEATH, POSSIBLY EVEN STRUCTURED PARKING UNDERNEATH THE SERVICE PARK. SO I'M LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SAY YES INSTEAD OF TO PARKLAND INSTEAD OF YES TO ONLY DEVELOPMENT. AND I'LL JUST ADD REAL QUICK IS TO AGAIN, THIS IS FOR PUBLIC INPUT, CLEARLY. AND THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS BEING PUSHED OR RECOMMENDED OVER OTHERS. YOU KNOW, WHEN SOME OF THIS IS A CALCULATION OF HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THINGS. AND IT'S CLEARLY THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT THAT IS, IS EITHER GUIDED DEVELOPMENT OR JUST HAPPENS. WE'RE GOING TO GET ONE OR THE OTHER. AND SO IF THE INPUT IS TO NOT SHOW ANY DEVELOPMENT ON WINDSURF BAY, THAT IS CERTAINLY IN EVERYBODY'S PURVIEW TO DO THAT. THIS IS A IS INTENDED TO SHOW A POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO HELP PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED THAT EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT WINDSURF. IF NOT, THEN IT'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ISSUE TO PAY TO USE WINDSURFRF AS A SACRIFICIAL LAMB TO DEVELOP THE OTHER AREAS THOUGH, AND ACCESS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK ON THAT NOW WITH THE DESIGN OF THE HIGHWAY. AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF NEGOTIATION TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THAT HIGHWAY IS AS NOTED, IT'S CUTTING THAT WHOLE AREA IN HALF. AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE MORE CONNECTIONS UNDERNEATH IT. AND IT'S PART OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE. YEAH. NEW ROADS AND YEAH. SO LET'S GO TO OTHER QUESTIONS AND STUFF. NOW I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO BLEND IN WITH YOUR COMMENTS, SIR. COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR AND MR. MR. MR. HESTER I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A LONG TERM PLAN. THE PLAN ITSELF APPEARS TO BE OVER 150 PAGES. IT IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. WE, THE PUBLIC, OF COURSE, SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY REVIEW AND DIGEST THE PLAN AS IT SITS TODAY. THE QUESTIONS I'VE GOT RELATE TO. FIRST, THE A PORTION OF THE PLAN HIGHLIGHTS THAT ARE IN PLACE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT APARTMENT COMPLEXES. IT DOESN'T STATES DEFINITIVELY WHEN ONE OF THE LAW EXPIRES. SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER LAWS IN THIS IN THIS AREA? HAS THAT BEEN STUDIED OR EVALUATED, AND IF SO, HOW WOULD THEY IMPACT THE THE POTENTIAL REZONING THAT THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE? I MISSED SOME OF YOUR QUESTION. QUESTION. YEAH. LAURA'S LAND USE RESTRICTIVE AGREEMENTS. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE A COUPLE IN PLACE THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED BY THE STUDY. IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THOSE ARE EXPIRING SOON, BUT OTHERS MAY. MAYBE NOT. I'M NOT AWARE, ANDY, DO YOU KNOW? THE LIBRARY? YEAH. SO SORRY IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO SOME OF THE LATEX, WHICH ARE THE AFFORDABLE[00:50:08]
HOUSING PROJECTS. I BELIEVE 1 OR 2 OF THEM ARE EXPIRING FAIRLY SOON. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY. AGAIN, IT'S A RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS A LONG TERM PROJECT. YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO NTA AND TEX DOT, THE EXPANSION ITSELF IS NOT SLATED TO BEGIN UNTIL THE 2040S. SO WE CAN WE CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF AN OPPORTUNITY HERE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY'S BEST INTERESTS ARE PRESERVED IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT RESTRICTIVE AGREEMENTS ARE IN PLACE THAT WOULD HINDER THE PLAN. AS YOU'RE PRESENTING IT TODAY.YEAH, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. OKAY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN THAT AREA THREE, I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE BULK OF SOME OF THAT MULTIFAMILY IS KIND OF REACHED THAT 60 YEAR KIND OF PRIME TIME TO REINVEST IN THOSE AREAS. I THINK THE TIMING THERE REGARDLESS IS, IS COULD BE GOOD WHETHER IT COULD BE IN TERMS OF IF ANOTHER PERSON IS INTERESTED IN INVESTING IN THAT AREA AS THOSE EXPIRE. COULD BE COULD BE A WIN WIN FOR BOTH GROUPS. SURE. SECOND QUESTION. AND I'M LOOKING JUST AT THE MAP THAT YOU'VE GOT HERE AS WE'RE LOOKING DOWN, I DON'T KNOW THE FOCUS AREAS SPECIFICALLY. I GUESS IT'S THREE AND FOUR. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AREA THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY THAT NOW IS INTENDED TO BE MIXED USE. I'M NOT CERTAIN HOW THE CITY POSITIONS ITSELF TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OTHER THAN BY WAY OF ONE OF THE METHODS THAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED THAT WASN'T TOO POPULAR, AND SO I WANTED TO HEAR MORE INPUT ABOUT THAT. SO RIGHT NOW I'M LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP. I DON'T SEE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING HERE. I'M SORRY. YEAH. SOUTH. SO IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT ADJACENT TO AREA NUMBER FIVE AS DESIGNATED ON THE MAP TO THE RIGHT OF THAHERE. YEAH. TO TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPOSED EXPANSION, TO THE RIGHT OF WHAT'S LABELED ON THE MAP. AREA NUMBER FIVE IN BLACK. YEAH.
YOU'RE CIRCLING IT THERE YOU GO TO THE RIGHT THERE. THAT KIND OF TEAL BLUE MIXED USE DESIGNATION. YES. THERE WE GO. SO THIS AREA IS IMPACTED BY THE EXPANSION SIGNIFICANTLY. YEAH.
SO IT IS AGAIN THE REZONING HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT'S EXISTING. RIGHT. SO IF AGAIN THESE ARE HOMES WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO CONTINUE LIVING THEY CAN. BUT IF AN OPPORTUNITY COMES WHERE THEY DON'T FIND IT ENJOYABLE, LIVING NEXT TO A HIGHWAY AND THE DEVELOPER COMES IN AND THEY WANT TO REZONE IT TO BE MIXED USE, THIS IS JUST GONNA ACT AS A GUIDANCE. THEN THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO REZONE IT. THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO COME THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THAT. THIS WILL JUST HELP US SAY, OH YEAH, YOU'RE MEETING THE VISION.
THAT'S IT. OKAY. YEAH. AND IT'S IT'S 2020 YEAR VISION. SO YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF TIME TO, TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO PUSH US OVER THE GOAL HERE. SPEAKING OF LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS. AND YOU CAN TALK TO MY MY WIFE OR MY FRIENDS. I AM HORRIBLE AT RELATIONSHIPS. WHO HERE ON CITY STAFF IS GOING TO BE MANAGING OR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH TDA AND TXDOT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO AGAIN, PUSH THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. IS THAT THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION? CORRECT. THAT'S WHY HE'S HERE TODAY. OKAY. AND I PRESUME, SIR, THAT YOU'VE HAD NO ADDITIONAL OTHER THAN WHAT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM NTTA ABOUT THEIR PLAN, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE GOT THEY'VE GOT A VARIETY OF PLANS IN PLACE ABOUT HOW THIS PATHWAY WILL GO. SO THE NTTA AND TXDOT, BEFORE THEN, THEY, THE TXDOT HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR WELL OVER A DECADE AGO. AND BEFORE THAT, NTA TOOK IT OVER A FEW YEARS AGO. AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH IS A VERY THOROUGH, EXTENSIVE PROCESS TO IT LOOKS AT EVERY, EVERY, EVERY, EVERY ASPECT OF OF WHAT, WHAT THIS WILL HOW THIS WILL IMPACT THE AREA. AND THEY'VE HAD SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS OVER THE YEARS.
TEXDOT HAD SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS OVER THE YEARS. SO. I GUESS THEY LOOK AT DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES. WHEN WILL WE KNOW DEFINITIVELY THAT THIS IS THE PATH THAT THE PROJECT WILL TAKE? AND THEY'RE THEY'RE I KNOW WHO THE IMPACTED, YOU KNOW, SHAREHOLDERS WOULD BE. SO SO
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THE THEY WON'T THEY CAN'T SAY FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAIN UNTIL THEY GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WHICH THAT'S SCHEDULED TO END NEXT SUMMER. SO WE WE EXPECT THAT THAT WILL BE NEXT SUMMER. I CAN TELL YOU, GOING BACK TO 2016 AND BEFORE THAT, THIS THIS ALIGNMENT HASN'T CHANGED. AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE'S NOT YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A POINT. THEY HAVE TO HIT THERE WHERE THE GEORGE BUSH ENDS RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM THERE. IT'S IT'S IT WOULD BE PRETTY HARD TO SEE HOW IT WOULD CHANGE ANY. SO IT'S IT'S FAIRLY CERTAIN THEY HAVE LOOKED AT. THEY DO HAVE MAPS THAT THEY'VE SHOWN AT PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT THAT SHOW WHICH PROPERTIES DOWN TO THE PARCEL LEVEL ARE IMPACTED. THEY'RE NOT QUITE TO THE FOOT LEVEL YET, BUT IT'S, IT'S IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO AND A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE IN THAT IMPACT AREA OR NOT. TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, EVERYONE. POTENTIAL REZONING OF THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY TO ALIGN WITH THE VISION. WHAT STOPS US FROM DOING THAT? THERE'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE IN THAT DOING THAT. IT'S JUST GOING THROUGH THE E PROCESS. OKAY, I JUST I WASN'T CERTAIN IF THERE ARE ANY STEPS THAT WE HAVE THAT THE CITY CAN TAKE. NOW TO BEGIN PUTTING THIS VISION INTO, YOU KNOW, NO LONGER A BOOK OR A PIECE OF PAPER. AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. ONCE THE PLAN IS ADOPTED, THEN IT'S EASIER FOR US TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS AGAIN. CAN'T ALL BE MAY NOT ALL BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME. LIKE YOU SAID, THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES ARE THE EASIEST TO GO AFTER. BUT YES, THEN IT'S IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE FOR US TO LOOK TOWARD THE PLAN AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE CHANGING THE ZONING TO MATCH IT UP WITH THE VISION THAT WE PUT IN THE PLAN. AND THE RESIDENTS HAVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREED WITH THE IMPLEMENT OR THE APPROVAL OF THE BOND PACKAGE, WHICH ALSO CONTEMPLATES THIS. SO YES, SIR, LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS IN PLACE THAT ARE BEGINNING TO MOVE THIS ALONG, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOTHING. NOTHING IS IS THERE ARE THERE IS NOT ANOTHER FORMAL NEXT STEP THAT HAS BEEN CONTEMPLATED, IF I HAVE TO SAY THERE'S ONE, I WOULD SAY MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF REZONING COULD BE A NEXT STEP ONCE THIS PLAN IS ADOPTED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S IT. AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR THE WORK AND THE TIME, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DALTON AND COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. I DON'T KNOW HOW MINE KEEPS COMING UP. I DIDN'T TOUCH IT LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKELY STORY. COMMISSIONER.OH, YOU'RE ON NOW. YEAH, WELL, ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH AND THEN COMMISSIONER JONES, THEN YOU. THE SYSTEM DOESN'T LIKE THAT SIDE OF THE DAIS. WHAT CAN I SAY? THANK YOU, SIR, SOMETHING WE WE KNOW WE'RE ALL AWARE OF, OR AT LEAST I THINK WE'RE I'M AWARE OF IS THE CITY OF DALLAS OWNS ALL THE WATER ALL THE WAY AROUND THIS. NOBODY HAS SPOKEN TO THAT. AND IS ARE THERE CHALLENGES TO THAT IN THIS OVERALL CONCEPT? I'VE GOT SOME NOTES ON THAT ONE TOO.
OKAY. IN WHAT REGARD? IN ALL REGARDS. SO IT'S THEIR WATER AND IT'S THEIR TAKE AREA UP TO ELEVATION OF FOUR 35.5. THEY REGULATE ALL OF THAT. ALL PLANS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM FOR APPROVAL. AND SO ANY ANYTHING THAT IS DEVELOPED THERE HAS TO BE PERMITTED THROUGH THEM. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE DODOING JOHN PAUL JONES BOAT RAMP GRANT PROJECT RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE ON THEIR SECOND DALLAS WATER UTILITIES IS ON THEIR SECOND REVIEW. AND THEN IT GOES BACK TO PARKS AND WILDLIFE FOR FINAL REVIEW. SO THEY THEY ARE A KEY PIECE. LIKE THE OTHER EXAMPLE IS THEY'RE AWARE OF THE BOARDWALK THAT WAS APPROVED. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY WERE PART OF THE GRANT PACKAGE THAT WE APPLIED FOR FOR SOME TIME AGO AS A LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT WE DIDN'T GET. BUT WHERE IT GOES FROM ABOUT, OH, AT THE END OF THE RESTAURANTS, IT'LL GO ALL THE WAY AROUND, HOPEFULLY TO JOHN PAUL JONES PARK. THEY WILL PERMIT AND REVIEW ALL OF THAT. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT PROJECT COMING UP. YEAH I KNOW THERE'S THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEW. WELL WE WE DO CLEANUPS AROUND THE LAKE FOR DIFFERENT AREAS. AND I GUESS A BIG PART OF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A WHILE AGO, IT'S NEAT TO OWN THAT LARGE GREEN AREA PARK THERE, BUT ARE WE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING THE TRASH THAT WASHES OFF OF OF THE DALLAS DALLAS LAKE ON OUR PROPERTY? AND I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT FOR NOT ME, BECAUSE LIKE OUR OUR CHAIRMAN HERE, I PROBABLY WON'T BE AROUND TO SEE A LOT OF THIS HAPPEN, BUT WE NEED I'M THINKING FORWARD TO MY GRANDCHILDREN AND AND THEIR GRANDCHILDREN, PERHAPS BECAUSE 50 YEARS, THERE'S GOING TO BE
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TWO GENERATIONS COMING ABOUT. SO SO THAT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER THERE. WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT PRESCRIBES HOW WE CAN BEHAVE IN THE TAKE AREA AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO WITH IT, WHAT WE CAN PERMIT, WHAT WE CAN ZONE, WHAT WE CAN'T, THOSE KIND OF THINGS IN THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, IT RECOGNIZES THAT TRASH AND DEBRIS IN THE TAKE AREA IS A MUTUAL PROBLEM FOR DALLAS AND WHATEVER THE OTHER MEMBER CITIES ARE, ALL THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS ARE IDENTICAL WITH ALL THE CITIES. AND ALTHOUGH WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A MUTUAL PROBLEM, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY MUTUAL FUNDS RIGHT AS OF YET. SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES RECENTLY, AND PROBABLY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY 20 YEARS OF BEING ON A CITY ON THIS LAKE, HAVE GOTTEN SOME COOPERATION IN KIND WITH WITH DALLAS. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE WANT THE TRASH PICKED UP FROM THERE, THE BURDEN IS ALMOST ALWAYS GOING TO FALL ON THE ON THE CITY. DALLAS DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES, BUT THEY WILL PARTICIPATE IN HELPING US PLAN AND ORGANIZE AND BRING VOLUNTEERS. AND THEY'VE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT PRABLY NOW MORE THAN I'VE EVER SEEN. SO THAT ISSUE EXISTS NOW AND HAS EVER SINCE THEY IMPOUNDED THE LAKE IN THAT, IN THAT WINDSURF BAY. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA AND PROBABLY HAS MORE DREAMS THAN, THAN I CAN PROBABLY THINK OF, OR WE CAN ALL THINK OF RIGHT NOW. BUT THE CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE IS CAN WE, AS WAS ALLUDED TO BEFORE, IS CAN WE AFFORD IT? YOU KNOW, I, I CAN GO BUY A CAR, BUT IF I CAN'T AFFORD THE GAS FOR IT, I JUST GOT A CAR SITTING IN THE GARAGE SO THAT THAT TO ME IS A PART OF OUR LONG TERM LOOK. AND THE QUESTION TO DIVIDING THAT PARK UP IN CASE WE WANTED TO KEEP OR THE CITY TO MAINTAIN PARK FOR. LET'S JUST TAKE THAT GREEN LINE AND KIND OF GO DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TRADE THAT PART OF THAT PARK IN THE AREA. AND DOES IT HAVE TO BE IN THAT GENERAL AREA, OR CAN IT BE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY? YOU KNOW, I THINK TECHNICALLY, WITH THE CONVERSION REQUIREMENTS FROM TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, IT GENERALLY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE ADVISABLE IN THIS CASE. I WOULD THINK WE WOULD WANT TO TRY TO LET'S SAY WE'RE ONLY CONVERTING FIVE ACRES OR TEN ACRES. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT TO STAY IN THIS AREA BECAUSE, AGAIN, I THINK THE WHOLE IDEA HERE IS THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE WANT OR DON'T WANT WITH WINDSURF BAY, IT JUST NEEDS TO WORK TOGETHER.
NONE OF THESE CAN BE TREATED AS AN ISLAND OR A ONE OFF. IF IF WE DO SOMETHING TO WINDSURF BAY, WHATEVER IT IS OR ANY OTHER PART, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT WORKS TOGETHER, HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PARK IT, HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE IT. BRINGING DEVELOPMENT PARTNER GET YOU A DIFFERENT MENU OF CHOICES SO THAT THAT'S REALLY ALL THIS, THIS IS. SO IF WE HAD A DEVELOPER WANTING TO COME IN AND SAY DEVELOP 20 ACRES, COULD WE THEORETICALLY, AS PART OF HIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN, CONVERT FIVE ACRES OF WINDSURF TO PARK IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AS A PART OF HIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR ANYWHERE ELSE? YOU COULD YOU COULD END UP BEING THAT THE TRADE OFF IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, OR A PORTION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PARK. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING TO IF, IF, IF THE FIVE ACRES OF PARK BECOMES IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMPLEX, THEN THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING IT UP, MOWING IT, AND THAT REDUCES THE CITY'S THE TAXPAYER'S BURDEN TO KEEP UP WHAT IS QUALIFIED PARKLAND. AND THAT'S VERY MUCH POSSIBLE WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER.
ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, I THINK HAS ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE'RE WE'RE FAIRLY CLOSE, BUT IN DEALING WITH THOSE GUYS, IT CAN IT COULD CHANGE SOME. AS FAR AS WE KNOW WHERE THE WHERE THE FREEWAY COMES OUT OF OUR PARK IS, THE AREA BELOW THAT ALREADY SET OR IS THIS ALL ONE IS? THE PREFERRED LOCAL ROUTE IS PRETTY WELL SET IN STONE, EXCEPT FOR WHERE THE ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS AND ACQUISITION MAY IMPACT IT SOME. YEAH, YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I REMEMBER ROWLETT VOTED THREE TIMES FOR GEORGE BUSH TO COME THROUGH THEIR CITY. THEY VOTED FOR IT. THEY VOTED IT OUT. SO I'M JUST I WANT US ALL TO BE COMFORTABLE IN THIS, THAT, THAT THERE'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP AT SOME ROAD A QUARTER OF A MILE DOWN THE STREET. NO, IT'S RIGHT NOW THE THE RIGHT OF WAY GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 20. SO IT GOES PAST 80, DOWN TO 20. THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO AREAS WHERE THERE'S SOME ALTERNATIVES AND THERE'S ONE IN SUNNYVALE AND ONE IN MESQUITE. THERE. BUT THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, A FEW LESS THAN A HALF MILE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE AND ANOTHER GOING SOMEWHERE. BUT IT MAY BE. RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. ANOTHER THOUGHT I HAD IN OUR BOND COMMITTEE. AND YOU'LL REMEMBER ONE OF OUR, ONE OF OUR PARTICIPANTS BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF A VERY TALL, TALL FERRIS WHEEL. AND WE ALL THOUGHT, THAT LOOKS NEAT, BUT BOY, THE UNLESS WE CAN GET A DEVELOPER TO COME IN THERE AND BUILD IT. HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT TO A A UNIQUE DESIGN
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FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE FREEWAY IN ALMOST ANYWHERE IN THAT AREA TO SELL THIS? YES. RIGHT HERE THERE IS AN AREA THAT IS IDENTIFIED, NO EXACT PARCELS OR ANYTHING, BUT IT IS, AS PART OF THE CORRIDOR PLAN CONTEMPLATED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A LARGE GATEWAY FEATURE HERE, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL WOULD SAY THAT WE KNOW SOMEBODY THAT WAS LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS IN GARLAND. YEAH. ISN'T THERE A LIGHTHOUSE FEATURE, LIGHTHOUSE TYPE FEATURE ON THE NORTH SIDE TO OR ON THE ROCKWALL SIDE? YOU MEAN, OR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS SIDE? BECAUSE THERE'S A LIGHTHOUSE ON THAT SIDE? YEAH, ON THE JOHN PAUL JONES POINT OVER THERE, POSSIBLY. AGAIN, THERE'S IT'S CONTEMPLATED. THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE IF THERE'S THERE'S BUDGET THERE OR IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN TRADE SOME GROUND FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER SOME OF OUR LAND AND SOME BUDGET FROM THE CORRIDOR BOND TO TO DO SOMETHING SOONER THAN LATER. SEE, MY THOUGHT WAS THE REUNION TOWER TYPE PROJECT WHERE WE COULD GET A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER TO COME IN THERE AND PUT OUR UNIQUE DESIGN ON A TALL STRUCTURE WITH, I MEAN, HOW BEAUTIFUL COULD IT BE TO HAVE A ROTATING RESTAURANT AT THAT POINT TO LOOK IN THAT AREA? SO I AND I LOVE THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE. I'M I'M TRUE AMERICAN. AND IF YOU KNOW THE AND EVEN THE SALE THOUGHT IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING WITH COLORS OF RED, WHITE AND BLUE AND THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THAT JUST COMES FROM AN OLD GUY'S HEAD. SURE KNOW IF WHEN WE GET TO THAT COMPONENT OF THE GATEWAY PROJECT, IT WILL BE A WHOLE PROCESS FOR INPUT AND DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS FOR FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JONES AND THEN COMMISSIONER PEARCE. YOU SPEAK TO A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE THE ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN. SO WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SHARED THE VISION BACK IN OCTOBER, I BELIEVE CHAIR ROBERTS WAS THERE. COMMISSIONER PARRISH WAS THERE.WE PRETTY MUCH WENT THROUGH. HEY, HERE ARE SOME OF THE EXERCISES THAT WE GONE THROUGH.
AND HERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN LOOK INTO AND PROVIDE US INPUT. THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT. THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE EXPANSION AND HOW INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY IT, THAT PEOPLE WERE CURIOUS ABOUT IT, BUT OVERALL, I DON'T PEOPLE SEEM TO GET EXCITED ABOUT THAT PLAN. AND I AS I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING, THAT WAS THE SENTIMENT THAT, HEY, WE'RE IN SOUTH GARLANDWE DON'T ASSOCIATE OURSELVES TOO MUCH WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN DOWNTOWN, AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE CAME BACK AND CHANGED THE PLAN'S TITLE AND PUT IT UP ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT WE CAN GET FURTHER INPUT. SO FAR WE HAVEN'T. WE HEARD FROM A COUPLE PEOPLE, MOSTLY ABOUT WINDSOR BAY PARK, AND WE HAVE PROVIDED THE ANSWER TODAY. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THOUGHT PEOPLE TOOK IT PRETTY, PRETTY POSITIVELY. MR. WE DID HAVE QUITE A BIT OF ENGAGEMENT ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE REGARDING THE BUSINESSES RIGHT THERE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, HAD A LOT OF GREAT ENGAGEMENT, BOTH ON THE PLAN AS WELL AS THINGS THAT CONCERN THEM TODAY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I BELIEVE THAT WAS KIND OF THE GENESIS OF THE BOARDWALK IDEA. AND A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL COURTESY BOAT RAMPS CAME OUT OF THAT GROUP. SO THE BUSINESSES FOR SURE WERE WERE VERY, VERY ENGAGED ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS. THE PLAN IN GENERAL IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF OR CONSULTANT. BROUGHT RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN THE COMMUNITY BOUGHT INTO IT LIKE THEY WHAT'S THE WORD? I GUESS LIKE THEY APPROVED OF IT AFTERWARDS WAS LIKE COMMUNICATION IN THE BEGINNING. THAT KIND OF LED TO WHAT WE HAVE. WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAN, OF COURSE, AND WE HAVEN'T. AGAIN, FROM WHAT WE HAVE HEARD, THE COMMUNITY IS EXCITED ABOUT MOST OF THE PLAN. I'M NOT SURE IF I COULD BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT. DO YOU VOTE FOR IT OR AGAINST IT, THAT TYPE OF THING. SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY THEY BOUGHT INTO IT, BUT SEVERAL ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS WERE MADE AND PEOPLE DID PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND THEY SEEMED TO BE GENUINELY EXCITED ABOUT THE PLAN. YES, I'M THINKING LIKE ONE EXAMPLE, LIKE SAY, IT'S AN EXERCISE WHERE IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION IN THIS AREA? IT'S LIKE IT KIND OF LIKE DRAW OUT, WE WANT TO SEE THIS, THIS AND THIS. AND THEN THAT LED TO THE MAP. OR WAS IT SOMETHING THAT CONSULTANT AS A DRAFT MENTIONED? AND THEN. YES, AS ANDY MENTIONED, I WASN'T PART OF THAT AT THAT TIME. BUT YES, SOME OF THE BOARDWALK IDEAS MAY HAVE COME HAD COME FROM THE BUSINESS GROUP, THE BASS PRO
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AND SOME OTHER BUSINESS GROUPS THAT THEY HAD MET WITH. SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE. THANK YOU.COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. PARISH. SO A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS. AND ONE OF THEM GOES BACK TO COMMISSIONER JONES'S QUESTION AROUND THE AREAS WHERE WE TOOK COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, AND I WAS MORE REFERENCING IN THE OCTOBER 9TH MEETING, WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE ANY OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE ANY TWEAKS TO THE PLAN. AND IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY OF THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED. I KNOW WINDSURF BAY WAS ONE OF THOSE AREAS.
ALSO, LOCUST GROVE, WHICH I THINK WAS A BIT MORE CONSTRAINED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE WHAT THE CITY COULD DO BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPORTATION EXPANSION. BUT MAYBE IF YOU COULD TOUCH UPON IF THERE WERE ANY FROM THE OCTOBER 9TH TOWN HALL THAT WAS ABLE TO GET FED INTO UPDATES HERE. SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION I HAVE CLARIFICATION I HAVE WE HAVE NOT CHANGED ANYTHING IN THE PLAN BECAUSE THEY, IN MY OPINION, WERE MORE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED BY EITHER PAUL OR THE CONSULTANT OR ANDY REGARDING WINDSURF BAY, THE EXTENSION IMPROVEMENTS, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. I COULD NOT IDENTIFY ANYTHING IN THE PLAN ITSELF THAT NEEDED TO BE REVISED BASED ON A COMMENT. AND THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EITHER HAVE ATTENDED AND RECEIVED THAT FEEDBACK. T THE HER QUESTION THAT I WANT TO HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON, SO FOR THE LOCUST, AND WE'VE ALREADY SAID IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE LOCUST GROVE, UNLIKE WINDSURF BAY TONIGHT, THERE WAS A MENTION THAT THERE COULD BE AN OPTION OF NO DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT? IT COMES AT A COST, MAYBE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE SAME OPTION AVAILABLE FOR LOCUST GROVE. CORRECT? BECAUSE THAT IS AN EXPANSION ISSUE. SO OTHER THAN WHAT HAPPENS DUE TO THE HIGHWAY EXPANSION, EVERYTHING ELSE IS AT A PLAN LEVEL. SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS AN OPTION THAT WE DO WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH FOR THE MOST PART. BUT OTHER THAN, AGAIN, IT'S A 30,000 FOOT VISION. SO OTHER THAN THE EXPANSION ITSELF, WE ARE NOT IN CHARGE OF RIGHT? EVERYTHING ELSE IS AT A VISION LEVEL, AND EVERYTHING ELSE MAY EVOLVE WITH TIME. AND BECAUSE AGAIN, OTHERS MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AT THE OCTOBER 9TH MEETING. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A FEW THINGS KIND OF CLEAR. AND THEN AND THEN ALSO THINGS COULD HAVE CHANGED. ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, THERE WAS THE SLIDE THAT SAYS LEGAL CONSTRAINTS FOR LAND USE CHANGES. LET ME GO TO THAT SLIDE. CAN YOU I DIDN'T WRITE THE NUMBER. I DIDN'T WRITE THE SLIDE NUMBER DOWN. SO THIS ONE.
YES. ON THE RIGHT SIDE. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THOSE CONSTRAINTS? NOT NECESSARILY FULLY LEGAL, BUT WITH SOME WITH THE REZONING CHANGE, THERE ARE A LOT OF LEGAL PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN TERMS OF NOTIFICATION, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY SOMEONE COULD BECOME NON-CONFORMING, THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE EVENTUALLY BECOME CHALLENGING ON A REZONING PROCESS. SO NOT JUST LAND USE CHANGE. IF IT ENDS UP BECOMING AGAIN, IT'S NOT GOING TO END UP BECOMING REZONING OF THAT ENTIRE AREA OVERNIGHT. BUT WHEN WE TAKE THAT STEP, THOSE NUANCES OF A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, A REZONING PROCESS, IF SOME BUSINESS BECOMES NON-CONFORMING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR. AND AT THE MOMENT, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. I'M I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR OUR CITIZENS FEEDBACK THAT'S COME OUT TONIGHT AS WELL.
SO THANKS FOR THE TIME. I MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER, BUT THANKS. THANK YOU. IS THAT IS THAT ALL OKAY? OF COURSE. I ALWAYS HAVE MY VIEW. FIRST OF ALL, THE STUDY IS REALLY THOROUGH AND HAS A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS IN IT AND PROBABLY TAKE ANOTHER COUPLE READINGS TO ABSORB IT ALL. AND SO IF ANY OF MY COMMENTS ARE ALREADY ADDRESSED, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WORKING WITH DALLAS IS GOING TO BE CRUCIAL, AND WE MAY HAVE TO AUGMENT THAT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE I CAN SEE THAT AT BOARDWALK. IDEA TO ME IS KIND OF ONE OF IT'S IT CAN BE A BIG DRAW, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DO SOME PIERS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK SANTA MONICA NOT QUITE THAT BIG, BUT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE TO BE AN INITIAL INVESTMENT FOR THIS WHOLE AREA THAT BRINGS PEOPLE OUT. THE TRAILS. IN THE BIKEWAY PLAN. WE GOT TO WORK WITH THAT. I SAW COMMENTS IN HERE ABOUT HOW THE TRAIL WAS GOING TO CONNECT WITH
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THE NORTHERN PORTION OF I-30 INTO ROWLETT TRAILS, SOUTHERN PORTION OF I-30 INTO ROWLETT TRAIL TRAILS. BUT I DID NOT SEE A SPECIFIC MENTION OF A CONNECTION UNDERNEATH I-30 IS THAT THERE IS. GOOD WITH BASS PRO AND. ZION AND ZION BASS PRO, RIGHT. WHEN I FLIP THE STACK, THERE'S ALREADY A PLAN WHEN TXDOT, YOU KNOW, FLIPS TO THE THE BRIDGE AND WE WILL BE THEN AT GRADE CROSSING UNDERNEATH. THERE'S ALREADY A I BELIEVE IT'S A EIGHT FOOT ON ONE SIDE AND 12 FOOT ON THE OTHER. SO IT'S IT'S IT CONNECTS BOTH SIDES OF THAT PENINSULA IN A REALLY WE CAN HAVE A BIKE AND HIKING TRAILS THROUGH THERE. GOOD. BECAUSE AS THE REPORT SAID, FROM WINDSURF BAY OVER TO JOHN PAUL JONES AND ALL MATTER, THAT'S A SEVEN MILE TREK ROUND TRIP, 14 MILES GOOD BIKE RIDE. AND IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE IN IN THIS CITY. WE'RE GLAD TO HEAR THAT. ANOTHER RANDOM THOUGHT IS, AS WE'RE REDEVELOPING SOME OF THIS, WHY NOT MAKE A GOLF CART FRIENDLY TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE REDUCE SOME OF THE IMPACT OF CARS? AND JUST A RANDOM THOUGHT. AND A BIGGIE ONE DISCUSSION. THEY'VE GOT SOME STRONG THOUGHTS ON THAT.YEAH, WELL, I'M JUST TOSSING OUT IDEAS HERE. AND ANOTHER ONE IS LET'S JUST NOT LET THIS BE ANOTHER STUDY THAT ENDS UP ON THE SHELF. AND THEN WE GET A LITTLE SENTENCE AND A HALF OUT OF THE REPORT SAYING, WELL, THE STUDY SAID THIS. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AN ACTIVE STUDY. AND WE'RE TALKING TEN, 20, 30 YEARS STAFF CHANGES, MANAGEMENT CHANGES AND EVERYTHING. AND I'M DRAWING FROM A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. THE CITY SHOULD BE DIVIDED INTO FIVE AREAS NORTH AREA, SOUTH, EAST, WEST AND CENTRAL. AND WE HAD PLANT PLANET IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEES. AND THESE WERE APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL. AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME MECHANISM LIKE THAT, SOMEBODY TO KEEP AN EYE, A GROUP OF CITIZENS TO KEEP AN EYE ON THIS PLAN AND BE THERE FOR STAFF AND GIVE INPUT SO THAT THAT'S A BIG, A BIG ONE. BUT IT KEEPS THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND KEEPS THEM CONTINUITY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. AND NOTICE WHEN 190 IS EXPANDED YOU ALWAYS HAVE THIS. AND OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THESE PROPERTIES.
YOU TWO INCHES OVER. TOUGH LUCK. SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO MOVE AND MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SELL. THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO ACQUIRE MORE LAND, YOU KNOW, A FEW LOTS AT A TIME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. OH, IS THERE ANYTHING NEW IN THAT BOUTIQUE HOTEL THAT GOT APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO? IS THAT COMING FORWARD? IT WAS. IT WAS REFERENCED IN THE REPORT. IT IS IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE TO SEE HAPPEN ONE DAY. RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE ECONOMICS AREN'T IN THEIR FAVOR RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY APPROPRIATE THERE REGARDLESS. AND POINT OUT IN THE POINT WHERE THAT IS, THIS BLUE ASTERISK IS ON THE TOP. THE COUNCIL APPROVED A BOUTIQUE HOTEL, WHICH IS. THAT'S RIGHT, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK 100 ROOMS MAYBE, AND THEN HAD SOME COTTAGES AND STUFF AND PERFECT FOR AN AREA LIKE THAT. YEAH, IT WAS QUITE NICE. OKAY. AND. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM MINE, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THE ITEM THAT WE TABLED TONIGHT THAT STUDY HAVE HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT STUDY OF THAT RECENT LAW AS A KIND OF AN OVERLAY TO THIS AREA. IS THAT WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THAT GOING TO IMPACT THIS AREA ALSO? YES, SIR. THINGS THAT OBVIOUSLY IT'S A DIFFERENT ITEM, BUT THINGS THAT WE HOPE TO ACHIEVE IN HERE IN THE MIXED RESIDENTIAL AND HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, THOSE ARE CONTEMPLATED IN THAT AMENDMENT SO THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF IT'S BY RIGHT, IF SOMEONE'S BUILDING MULTIFAMILY BY RIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS, THEN ALL THOSE AMENDMENTS ONCE AND IF IT'S APPROVED, THOSE WOULD APPLY. SO THE THOUGHTS LIKE DESTINATION PUBLIC ARTS, LIKE THE THOUGHTS AND ENCOURAGEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLAN, THOSE ARE CONTEMPLATED ON THAT AMENDMENT IN A CITYWIDE BASIS. OF COURSE, THIS IS A THIS IS IN A SMALL AREA, BUT YES, WE JUST HAVEN'T KIND OF OVERLAID THAT INTO THIS AREA IN THIS STUDY. WE CAN'T THAT'S THAT'S CITYWIDE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY. YES, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT NEW LAW COULD IMPACT
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EXISTING PROPERTIES THERE THAT HAVE ONE USE ON THEM THAT THE NEW LAW IN FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT I KNOW, BUT IT'LL AFFECT OUR CITY. BUT IN IN OUR LONG RANGE PLAN HERE WE MAY BE THINKING THIS WILL BE NICE HERE, BUT IF I OWNED A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THERE, I AM IN ESSENCE UNDER THIS NEW LAW. COULD BE SOMETHING. YES, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT IS SOMETHING NOT ENTIRELY IN OUR CONTROL. WHAT WE COULD DO IS HAVE TRULY ENHANCED STANDARDS IN REGULATIONS. IFF THEY END UP HAPPENING IN ONE OF THE AREAS HERE THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY ENVISION HAVING MULTIFAMILY THERE FOR, BUT IT ENDS UP HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE STATE, BECAUSE OF THE SENATE BILL. THE MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE THE SPIRIT AND THE VISION AND THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IN THIS AREA. AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT YOU TALKED ABOUT HAVING DEVELOPERS PUT UP SIGNS SAYING WE DIDN'T REALLY WANT THIS HERE, BUT BY LAW WE HAVE TO. THAT GOES TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM THAT WE'RE NOT HEARING. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH. I'M COMPARING IT TO THIS AREA WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW THAT WE MAY POSSIBLY HEAR SOME OF THAT THERE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF IT'S ONLY LAST 30 YEARS, THAT GIVES THE STATE 15 MORE TIMES TO MESS WITH WHAT EVERYBODY'S DOING IN THEIR CITY. SO BUT AS OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE MENTIONED, KEEPING THE COMMUNITY UPDATED AND KNOWLEDGEABLE. SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING MAY HAPPEN ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME AND I CAN GRIPE ABOUT IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY IT HAPPENED AND WHY IT WAS ALLOWED. AND IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SWALLOW. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY REASON FOR ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS. SO OTHER FOLKS HERE CAN HEAR IN OUR PUBLIC CAN HEAR THAT. YES, IT MAY BE, IT MAY BE. AND IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. WE ALL KNOW THAT. THANK YOU. TO HIS POINT ABOUT ORDINANCES, ONE OF THE THINGS THE NORTH AREA PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE DID IS WE CREATED THE 190 OVERLAY UP NORTH, CREATED STANDARDS FOR THAT WHICH MIGRATED DOWN TO I-30, AND I THINK THE 635 WHICH EVENTUALLY GOT INCORPORATED INTO THE GDC. SO I COULD SEE THIS WHOLE AREA HAVING AN OVERLAY ON IT WITH DESIGN STANDARDS FOR EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT I KNOW, COMMISSIONER PARRISH, ONE OTHER QUESTION OR CLARIFICATION AS AN OUTCOME FOR TONIGHT, AS WE TALKED ABOUT ACTION ITEMS, IS THERE ARE WE BEING ASKED FOR ZONING FRAMEWORKS TO COME OUT OF THIS? OKAY. BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO THIS PLAN NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR US TO OFFICIALLY UTILIZE THESE PLANS IN OUR DAY TO DAY DECISION MAKING PROCESS. IT COULD BE A VARIETY OF THINGS, BUT SO PART OF THAT ADOPTION PROCESS IS HAVING PLAN COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION ON THTHE PLAN ADOPTION WITH TWEAKS OR ADOPTION AS IS. IF YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING IN THERE, WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO INCORPORATE IT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE PLAN. BUT YES, THE ASK IS TO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM PLAN COMMISSION. OKAY.THANK YOU. YEAH, STAFF IS REALLY GOOD ABOUT TRANSMITTING OUR THOUGHTS ON ITEMS TO THE COMMISSION. I MEAN, TO THE COUNCIL. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT IT'S CAPTURED. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. I WILL ASK SHANNON PHILLIPS NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. CHAIR.
SKYLIGHT IS EVEN BETTER. OH, THEY'LL TURN UP THE GAIN IN THE BACK. MY NAME IS SHANNON PHILLIPS, AND I'VE OWNED 4448 CHAR ROAD NUMBER 206 FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS. PARTICULARLY BOUGHT THIS CONDO OUT HERE BECAUSE OF THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD GREENBELT, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD PARKWAY, I BELIEVE MY PRIMARY CONCERN TONIGHT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND THAT ACCORDING TO THE PLAN, THERE WOULD BE NO DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF THE EXISTING LAKE RAY HUBBARD PARKWAY. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, HOWEVER, THOUGH, THAT THE PLAN DOES SAY IF YOU TAKE AWAY FROM JOHN PAUL JONES PARK, YOU CAN USE THE GREEN BELT AS JUSTIFICATION AREA TO USE THAT IN THE OFFSET. SO WHAT THE CITY OF GARLAND'S PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN MAINTAINING FOR THE LAST 25 PLUS YEARS AS A GREEN BELT, WE TAXPAYERS AND RESIDENTS HAVE KNOWN AS A PARK. SO TO ROB PETER AND THE PAPAL AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS TECHNICALLY ONE NAME, SO WE CAN USE IT TO OFFSET ANOTHER, THAT'S VERY CONCERNING. THE THREE OTHER MAJOR AREAS OF CONCERN I HAVE WITH THIS PLAN IS I AM ONE OF THE GUYS WHO PAID OUT OF POCKET TO HELP ADVERTISE THE HARPER POINT BOND PACKAGE AND THE TIF DISTRICT WITH COUNCILMAN HINKY, AND THE THOUGHT DOWN THE ROAD, AS ILLUSTRATED IN THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WE WOULD SELL OFF THE BASS PRO PARKING LOT TO A DEVELOPER TO TURN INTO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO A Y'ALL HAVE HERE IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS, IS JUST FLAT OUT APPALLING.
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WHERE DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WITH BOATS THAT ARE COMING TO THE LAKE ARE GOING TO PARK? ACCORDING TO THE ILLUSTRATION THERE, THAT WOULD ALL BE ONE HUGE PARKING GARAGE, AND MOST PARKING GARAGES CAN'T EVEN ACCOMMODATE THE STANDARD FOUR DOOR PICKUP TRUCK THESE DAYS.IF YOU THINK PEOPLE WITH BOATS ARE GOING TO PARK ALL THE WAY OVER THERE AT THE BOAT RAMP, AND THEN TRY TO WALK ACROSS THE ROAD BRIDGE NEWS FOR YOU, THAT BRIDGE IS 12IN NARROWER THAN IT ORIGINALLY WAS. THERE IS ONLY NINE INCHES BETWEEN THE TAPE AND THE THING, AND PEOPLE ARE ALMOST GETTING RAN OVER THE DAY TRYING TO WALK ACROSS THE ROAD BRIDGE. THERE WAS PLANS A LONG TIME AGO THAT THERE WOULD BE A SIDEWALK PEDESTRIAN GOING FROM THE BASS PRO FRONT DOOR OVER TO THE NORTH SIDE JOHN BALL PARK. THAT HAS NEVER COME TO FRUITION. I WON'T GO INTO IT IN MU DETAIL, BUT YOUR PLANS TO EXPAND THE MARVIN LOVE ROAD NORTH OF JOHORE ROAD IS ACTUALLY OUR SHARED DRIVEWAY, AND THOSE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT THREE FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THAT DRIVEWAY WITH OLD DANNY FAULKNER AND THE MAYOR OF GARLAND'S APPROVAL. I'M HALFWAY CONSIDERATE OF THE NEED TO EXTEND MARVIN LOAN SOUTH WITH THE CHANGES WITH GEORGE BUSH, ACCORDING TO THAT PLAN THAT I SEE THERE. I DON'T REALLY SEE MARINA DRIVE GOING AWAY. AND TO PROTECT MY NEIGHBORS TO THE TO THE SOUTH OF ME THERE IN PLAN AREA FOUR, I'M NOT 100% CONVINCED OF THAT NECESSITY. BUT COUNCILMAN JONES QUESTION I ONLY KNOW OF ONE MEENG WHERE THE COMMUNITY MAY HAVE HAD REMOTE KNOWLEDGE OF THIS PLAN, AND THAT WAS THE MEETING AT THE LIBRARY, BUT THIS HAS NOT BEEN ADVERTISED TO THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW FOUR OF THE HOA BOARDS OUT THERE. I SIT ON ONE PERIODICALLY AND NONE OF THEM ARE AWARE OF THIS PLAN, MUCH LESS OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE A PLAN. I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THIS IS CONCEPTUAL, BUT IF YOU APPROVE THE CONCEPT, THAT BECOMES A BUILDING BLOCK FOR JUSTIFICATION FOR APPROVING A DETAILED SITE PLAN. AND SO, AS COUNCILMAN, YOU KNOW, BJ WILLIAMS WOULD OFTEN SAY, I THINK WE NEED TO PAUSE THIS WITHOUT PREJUDICE AND HAVE THE CONSULTANTS ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE ACTUAL HOA BOARDS OUT THERE AND TWEAK THIS PLAN. I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT MANY ARE ACTUALLY AWARE OF. NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, YOU KNOW YOUR POINTS TO THE JOB HOME, JONES PARK, YOU KNOW, YOU GAVE THE CHRONOLOGICALLY PERFECT, RIGHT. IT WAS OVERWHELMED ON THE WEEKENDS. AND THEN THERE WAS AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE WITH A PADLOCK PUT AROUND IT. AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS IT FOR THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS. IT DOESN'T NEED A SEAWALL. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE CITY STAFF, YOU CAN SEE THE CITY OF DALLAS JETTY THERE BLOCKS IT SO THERE'S NOT THE DAMAGE AS THE SAME DAMAGE WAS BEING OCCURRED TO THE BASS PRO DOCKS. AND I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THE BASS PRO PEOPLE THREE TIMES ON HOW TO CORRECTLY BUILD IT, BUT THE UNDERLINING FACTOR WAS THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHICH CONTROLS THE LAKE, WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO PUT IN A SEA BARRIER. AND THAT'S WHAT'S DESTROYED THE DOCKS AT THE BASS PRO, TO THE POINT THEY WIPED THEIR HANDS AND WALKED AWAY FROM IT. I WOULD SINCERELY ASK THAT YOU PLEASE GIVE THE COMMUNITY MORE INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PLAN AND TO WORK WITH THOSE COMMISSIONERS. I AM THE GUY THAT PROVED THE CONSULTANTS WRONG REGARDING THE WATER BILLS. IN THE PAST, I'VE LIVED OUT HERE 23 YEARS. I UNDERSTAND THEIR NEED FOR IMPROVEMENT, THE NEED FOR CHANGE, AND I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH ON THAT. BUT I THINK WE NEED MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. PLEASE. WELL, I'LL POINT OUT THIS IS A LONG RANGE WISH KIND OF A WISH LIST. AND AS MOST EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE MARKET CHANGES FASTER THAN ANY PLAN.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, PLANS ALMOST OUT OF DATE ONCE IT'S PUBLISHED BECAUSE THE MARKET CONTINUALLY CHANGES. AND ABOUT THE ROADWAYS, THEY'RE SUGGESTING A THOROUGHFARE PLAN STUDY AND REWORK OF THAT WHICH WOULD BE SEPARATE HEARINGS AND OTHER THINGS. IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS OF I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. I KNOW I WENT TO THE LIBRARY MEETING AND THAT'S ALL I KNEW ABOUT TO COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, YOU HAD A QUESTION, SIR. YOU MENTIONED WHERE YOU LIVE, BUT I CANNOT IDENTIFY IT ON THIS MAP. TO THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF SHORE ROAD. OKAY. GO TO WINDSURF PARK BAY. IS THAT KIND OF THE AREA YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? NO. IF YOU GO NORTH OF WINDSURF BAY AND YOU GO OVER TO PLAN AREA NUMBER THREE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE A CURSOR ON THE COMPUTER TO. THERE YOU GO RIGHT THERE. OKAY. THAT'S WHERE MY CONDO IS. WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT THE BEAUTIFUL VIEW YOU HAVE, I RECALL WHEN WE APPROVED THE THE NICE HOTEL OVER THERE SOMEWHERE,
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THERE WERE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS LOOKED AT TO HELP PROTECT RESIDENTS WHO WERE LIVING THERE.SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY AN IDEA THAT WE NEED TO BRING FORWARD AND AND WHAT WE DO IN THE FUTURE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS TO CONTAIN OR CONTINUE THEIR ABILITY TO AT LEAST SEE THE LAKE, I KNOW IT'LL CHANGE. BUT THAT'S JUST THE THOUGHT I WANTED TO BRING OUT. AND YOU HEAR AND AND OUR STAFF HERE. SURE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THIS? SPEAKER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. APPRECIATE IT. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS. I SEE SOME FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? I'M GOING ONCE, TWICE. COMMISSIONERS, SINCE THERE'S NO OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. AND I THINK WE'VE GIVEN SOME GOOD INPUT FOR STAFF TO TAKE FORWARD. SO DO I HEAR A MOTION OR MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? OH, COMMISSIONER PERISH, I'LL MAKE YOU DISAPPEARED ON ME. I'M SORRY. PARDON ME. YEAH, IT DISAPPEARED ON ME AGAIN. OH, I TOOK IT OFF AND I DID NOT HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR GENTLEMAN. I'M JUST I'M. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE GO INTO DISCUSSION. OKAY. A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. CLOSED AS A PUBLIC HEARING ONLY.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. EVERYBODY DON'T SPEAK UP ONCE YOU. COMMISSIONER, PERISH, I'LL JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE. NOT A LOT MORE. BUT JUST ONE OTHER TOUCH POINT. THERE WAS A HOA REPRESENTATION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ALL FOUR, BUT IT WAS A HOA REPRESENTATION AT THE DISTRICT THREE TOWN HALL ON OCTOBER THE 9TH, WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF COLLABORATION, A LOT OF CLARIFICATION AROUND IMPACT, WHAT WHAT THE PLAN MEANT, WHAT THE STUDY MEANT. IN THE END, IT WAS A POSITIVE FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF FROM THAT AUDIENCE THAT WAS THERE AT THAT TIME. AND ONCE THERE WAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, OF COURSE, STILL CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE EXPANSION. BUT I JUST WANTED FOR THOSE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THAT WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT. THERE WAS HOA REPRESENTATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME THAT THEY'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS, BUT I DID WANT TO JUST SHARE THAT FEEDBACK. AS FAR AS THE COLLECTIVE. ALSO TO COMMISSIONER JONES, IS INQUIRY AROUND, WAS THERE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK? AND THAT VENUE IS WHERE I HEARD THE MOST OF IT AND IT WAS PRETTY EXTENSIVE COLLABORATIVE FEEDBACK AT THAT MOMENT. IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? NOPE.
COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, I LIKE THE I LIKE THIS PLAN. I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING FOR SOUTH GARLAND. I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE FEEDBACK AND MORE QUESTIONS AND MORE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING THING. BUT I LIKE IT FOR SOUTH GARLAND. AND I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD ON. IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, YEAH, WE RECOMMEND THIS, I THINK WE SHOULD. IS THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION? NO. I WAS THINKING ABOUT MORE DISCUSSION, BUT, YOU KNOW, NOBODY ELSE IS ON THE BOARD. OKAY. WELL, I, YOU KNOW, WANT TO YIELD IF YOU WANT TO GO FORTH WITH THE MOTION. I WANT ONE MORE. WELL, COMMISSIONER. WELL, COMMISSIONER PEARSON AND COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, I THOUGHT THAT I HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER ABEL A REQUEST.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHY I WAS ASKING IF THERE WAS TWEAKS TO BE ABLE TO BE DONE TO THIS. I THOUGHT I HEARD A REQUEST FOR WHEN SOUTH BAY DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I HADN'T MADE A MOTION YET. I WANTED TO HEAR THE FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD, SO WE CAN BE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, WE'LL NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCRETE UNDERSTANDING OF. WHAT IS IT
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THAT'S BEING ASKED TO BE UPDATED ON THE PLAN. BUT YES, PLAN COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITH THE TEETH. OKAY. WITH THAT, I MIGHT WANT TO MAKE A LIST OF ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ALL HAVE. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH AND THEN COMMISSIONER ABEL. I WAS JUST GOING TO ECHO THAT. I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DISCUSS THIS AT LEAST A HALF A DOZEN MORE TIMES, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A LENGTHY REPORT. EVERY TIME I READ IT, I'LL I'LL GET ANOTHER BRIGHT IDEA. SO I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO PUT THIS IN MOTION AND AND LET OUR COUNSEL LOOK AT IT. AND BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE PEOPLE TO WATCH OVER THIS. I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT FOR LOOKING FORWARD IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING COMMUNITY PEOPLE INVOLVED. SO WE DON'T HAVE A SOMETHING HAPPEN LIKE WE HAD RECENTLY, BECAUSE PEOPLE REMEMBER WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO. AND I THINK THAT'S IF I WAS GOING TO SAY ANYTHING, THAT'D BE AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT IN THIS PLAN IS FOR STAFF TO CREATE, CREATE, KEEP COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN THIS. SO WHEN YOU START TO DO SOMETHING, INVOLVE SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT KNOWS THAT'S WHERE GRANDDAD USED TO LIVE. AND NOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME SENTIMENTAL VALUE THERE TO THAT COMMUNITY AT LARGE. THANK YOU. I DON'T MEAN TO PUT WORDS IN COUNCIL MEMBERS NOW, BUT COUNCILMAN MOORE ABSOLUTELY HAD PLANNED, ONCE IT'S ADOPTED AGAIN, THAT'S WHEN THE REAL WORK STARTS. SO HE HAS CONVEYED THAT HE WILL GO OUT THERE, HAVE MORE MEETINGS AND TRULY MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ON HOW TO REALLY MAKE IT A REALITY. BECAUSE THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS IS DREAM RIGHT NOW. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO BE. BUT TO MAKE IT REALITY, WE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND ME AS THE PLANNER. I AM COMMITTED TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT DOES NOT SIT ON THE SHELF, AND WE CAN GO WORK ON IT FROM DAY ONE, RIGHT? AND I KNOW YOU WILL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER DALTON, GETTING BACK TO COMMISSIONER PARISH. I GUESS MY MY THOUGHTS ON PROTECTING OUR PARKLAND IS ADJACENT TO THE LAKE. I SEE THE STRUGGLE IN SAYING, DO WE MAINTAIN 75%? DO WE MAINTAIN 80%? WHAT'S THE NUMBER? HOW DO WE DO THAT? I GUESS MINE IS MORE OF A RECOMMENDATION THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT THAT AREA. I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO PUT PROTECTIONS IN THERE, BUT IF WE GET SOMEBODY THAT'S WILLING TO COME IN AND DEVELOP, LET'S SAY, 25% OF IT AND GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT PARK IN OTHER AREA AND TAKE CARE OF THAT OR BEAUTIFY THAT. I DON'T WANT TO HAMSTRING US, BUT I, I DO WANT TOAKE SURE THAT THAT PARK LAND IS CENTRAL TO THIS PLAN, BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO LOSE THAT. THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY MORE LAND. I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO, AS YOU WERE SPEAKING, I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. SO IN THE PLAN WE CAN IT ALREADY TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT HAS TO BE THE EXACT AMOUNT OF ACREAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE DISTRIBUTED SOMEWHERE ELSE. WHAT WE CAN DO, WE CAN FLESH IT OUT EVEN MORE WITH SOME MORE SPECIFICS, AND ALSO TALK ABOUT THE OPTION THAT THIS IS THE AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE SHOWING ON THE PLAN. BUT THE PRESERVING THAT PARKLAND IS CENTRAL. AND IF IT BECOMES FEASIBLE TO PRESERVE IT AND HAVE THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING THE CITY WILL BE INVESTIGATING, OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE THAT CAPTURES THAT SENTIMENT. AND I KNOW I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY, BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 40 ACRES AND WE GET A DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD POSSIBLY COME IN AND MAKE SOMETHING THERE, AND WE GIVE THEM THE ENTIRE 40 ACRES, AND THEN THEY MAKE EIGHT, FIVE ACRE POCKET PARKS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING. THAT MAY NOT BE THE SAME. THAT IS, I'M 100% AGAINST THAT RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THAT NO, IT NEEDS TO BE. I WANT TO SEE ME MAD. THERE YOU GO. BUT, YOU KNOW, PROTECTING THE GREATER PORTION OF THAT IS MY INTENT.THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A SUGGESTION FOR THE MOTION AND PROTECTION OF MOST OF THE ACREAGE OF RESERVE BAY, NOT JUST ACREAGE, BUT THE MEANINGFUL WAY THAT LAND IS LAID OUT. THE PARK IS LAID OUT. WE CAN I CAN WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT TO EFFECTIVELY CONVEY THAT SENTIMENT IN THE PLAN. AND YOU'LL HEAR ME SAYING IT AT CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER. PARISH. THANK YOU. WE ARE NOT DOING A DETAILED PLAN. EXACTLY.
IT'S A CONCEPT. THIS IS, AS STAFF HAVE SAID, THIS IS A 30,000 FOOT VIEW OF WHAT WE
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COULD POSSIBLY DO ONCE THE STATE COMES IN AND TXDOT COMES IN AND THEY FLIP OVER BASS PRO DRIVE AND PUT IN THE TOLL ROAD, AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO HAVE THIS BE A DESTINATION, BUT NOTHING IN WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. DETAILS WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A RETAIL STORE AND THIS IS GOING TO BE APARTMENTS, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A HOTEL.THIS IS A CONCEPT, AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE IT TO COUNCIL AND LET IT STAY ALIVE AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PARISH. THIS IS WHERE I WAS GOING TO MAKE MY MOTION. GO FOR IT. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE CONCEPT PLAN AS BEEN PRESENTED. SO IT MOVES. I SEE YOUR PAWS. DO YOU WANT ME TO INCLUDE THE PROTECTION ON THE PRESERVATION? IS THAT WHY YOU. IT'S UP TO. IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION. I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS IS NOT REALLY A COUNCIL PLAN. IT'S AN OVERALL SMALL AREA PLAN. BUT YEAH, I GET THAT. YEAH OKAY.
IT'S CALLED LAKESIDE AREA PLAN. SO I'LL PUT THAT IN THERE. OKAY. SO I'VE MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE LAKESIDE AREA PLAN HAS BEEN PRESENTED OKAY. READY TO GO HOME. THIS ONE OVER HERE WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PARRIS, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DALTON JENKINS AND CORNELIUS. SECOND. THIRD, FOURTH. MAKING SURE NO CHANGES TO THE PLAN. BECAUSE YOU SAID AS IS OR INCLUDE COMMISSIONER ABEL'S. WELL, SO OKAY, LET ME BE CLEAR THEN. AND I MOVE THAT WE. WELL, LET ME LET ME PAUSE FOR A SECOND. I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION, BUT I HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION. YOU'RE CLARIFYING YOUR MOTION, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT CONTINUING TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED AND THINKING ABOUT THE PRESERVATION. SO ALL YOU WANT ME TO SAY, ALL OF THAT WITHIN MY MOTION? NO. THE ONLY THING THAT WE THE THAT THESE DISCUSSIONS CAN SUBSTANTIALLY MAKE A TWEAK ON THE PLAN IS THE WINDSURF. WINDSURF, BAY PARK PROTECTION THAT THAT ELEMENT OF IT KEEPING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED. IT'S JUST BEST PRACTICE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL OBVIOUSLY CONTINUE COMMUNITY COMMUNICATING WITH CITY COUNCIL, AND SOMETIMES IT'S ALSO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CALL AS WELL SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT SENTIMENT AND WE CAN CONVEY THAT. BUT THE PLAN I DON'T WELL, I GUESS WE CAN HAVE AN ACTION PLAN. WE CAN HAVE AN ACTION PLAN ADDED. YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT. OKAY. YES. SO DO THOSE TWO. THOSE TWO, DO I NEED TO RESTATE OR YOU KNOW OKAY OKAY OKAY. DO THE SECOND CONCUR.
YES. SORRY. CAN WE RECEIVED THE MOTION OKAY. LET'S SEE IF I HEARD THIS RIGHT. THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE PLAN. MOVE THE PLAN FORWARD TO COUNCIL WITH WITH THE PROVISIONS OF WORKING TO PROTECT WINDSURF BAY. AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONGOING COMMUNITY AND PLUS ACTION. YEAH.
AS AN ACTION PLAN CONTINUE WITH ONGOING COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. YES. OKAY. ALL THREE SECONDS CONCUR. I AM DRIVING HER CRAZY DOWN THERE. YOU CAN GO ALPHABETICALLY IN THE MINUTES IF YOU WANT AND JUST PICK THE FIRST ONE. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND A MOTION TO PASS FORWARD TO COUNCIL WITH OUR APPROVAL? ALRIGHTY. MAYBE. PLEASE VOTE.
IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND I HOPE THE FUTURE GENERATIONS SEE THE BENEFIT OF WHAT STAFF HAS STARTED. WE HAVE MOVED ALONG TONIGHT. LET'S SEE, IT'S 814. BUT BEFORE I ADJOURN ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO WISH EVERYBODY HERE AND IN THE CITY A SAFE AND WONDERFUL THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY. AND WE WILL SEE YOU ALL DECEMBER 8TH. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.