Jan 12, 2026 Plan Commission

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WELCOME TO THE FIRST MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION AT 2026. IT'S JANUARY 12TH. WE TYPICALLY START OUR MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US.

WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT. NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION. ARE YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION? SO IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME, DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND DISCUSS ITEMS OF IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY. WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US TO HELP MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE, AND WE ALSO ASK FOR A GOOD YEAR FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND AND ALL OF ITS CITIZENS, AND ASK THAT YOU LOOK OVER THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND ALL OF THOSE IN UNIFORM ACROSS THIS GREAT COUNTRY. AND PLEASE BLESS EVERYBODY WITHIN THIS GREAT COUNTRY. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. LET'S START OUT. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. WE'VE GOT THESE YELLOW SPEAKER CARDS AT THE FRONT OR IN THE HALLWAY OUT THERE, IF YOU'LL FILL ONE OUT AND HAND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY, WE'LL CALL YOUR NAME OUT. AND WHEN YOU DO COME TO SPEAK, SEE THAT LITTLE RED GLOWING MICROPHONE THERE? IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THAT. WE NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS. APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES. BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP LIKE A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, WE DEFINITELY ALLOW MORE. AND AFTER ALL THE SPEAKERS HAVE SPOKEN, WE DO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK UP AND AND COMMENT ON ANY OF THE ISSUES RAISED. AND AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. ALL RIGHT, RIGHT INTO THE AGENDA. ITEM ONE A CONSIDER

[a. December 8, 2025 Plan Commission Minutes]

IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TITLE PAGE, TITLE PAGE, PAGE ONE LIST OF ATTENDEES, WE HAVE CITY STAFF AS IDENTIFIED WITH TITLES I. I'M NOT BIG ON TITLES. I COULD CARE LESS REGARDING THE VICE FIRST VICE CHAIR, BUT I DO THINK THE CHAIRPSON SHOULD AT LEAST BE RECOGNIZED ON THE AGENDA ON THAT AGENDA. THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE. YEAH, BUT THEN THEY KNOW WHO TO COME AFTER. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE POINT. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? OH, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE RECOMMENDED IN THE FUTURE RECOMMENDED CHANGES. ALRIGHTY.

AND A SECOND WAS DONE BY COMMISSIONER PARIS. I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE PROPER PLACE IN THE DEAL HERE NOW. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

MINE DIDN'T TAKE. THERE WE GO. I'M ALL THUMBS. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

[a. DD 25-06 Lockwood Distilling (District 2)]

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OKAY, SO IT COULD BE POSSIBLE TO LOOK FOR THAT INFORMATION, BUT. YEAH, THAT'S TRUE. I JUST THOUGHT OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY BIG SIGN. SO I'M JUST WONDERING I LOOKED AROUND RIGHT THERE AT THE SQUARE TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER LIKE, REALLY BIG SIGNS.

SO THAT THAT KIND OF PIQUED MY INTEREST THERE. YES. WE ALSO ROACH FEED AND SEED AND JIMMY WALLACE, THEY ALSO HAD MAJOR WAIVERS FOR SIGNS, BUT THEY WERE NOT AWNING SIGNS, THOUGH IT DID HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PLACEMENT AND THE SIZE OKAY, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE LOCKWOOD ONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR. I DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER CARD ON THIS. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? CARE TO PRESENT ANYTHING? OKAY.

APPLICANT ISN'T HERE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CARES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? IT'S UP TO US NOW. I GUESS. COMMISSIONERS. OKAY, COMMISSIONER ABEL, JUST A SECOND. HERE WE GO. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVOVE THIS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND TO A ANY DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. GOOD VOTE. IT PASSES 7 TO 6 WITH COMMISSIONER, 7 TO 1 WITH COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. VOTING

[b. Z 25-40 WashWell US-001 LLC (District 8)]

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IT'S AN 8.83 ACRE SITE, AND THEN IT'S A 4800 SQUARE FOOT SUITE WITHIN THE BUILDING. THIS IS THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER. IT CONTAINS ALL TYPES OF USES YOU TYPICALLY FIND WITHIN CRPS RETAIL STORE, RESTAURANT, PERSONAL SERVICES, EVEN RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THROUGH THERE TO THE NORTH THAT IS DETACHED FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER, HARDWARE STORE, CHURCH AND MORE. THIS AREA IS SLATED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, SO IT'S MEANT TO BE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES ADJACENT TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. HERE'S PHOTOS OF THE SITE. THE FIRST YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER BUILDING TO THE SOUTH OF THE ONE OF THE TWO MAJOR SHOPPING CENTER STRUCTURES, THE TOP LEFT. YOU'LL SEE THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT THIS APPLICANT PROPOSES TO GO INTO. THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET AGAIN TO THE LARGER SHOPPING CENTER WITH ACE HARDWARE. AND THEN THE FINAL PICTURE IS JUST THE EMPTY SUITE WHERE THE APPLICANT WISHES TO GO IN. THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN, SO YOU WILL SEE RIGHT HERE.

SPEED QUEEN. THIS IS WHERE THEY WISH TO GO. THIS IS THE SUITE. AND THIS IS WITHIN THIS LARGER OR SMALLER SHOPPING CENTER BUILDING. AND THEN THE LARGER ONE. THIS IS A MAP PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT THAT DOES MATCH OUR OWN RESEARCH. THAT DOES SHOW THREE WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS OF EXISTING LAUNDROMATS. AND THEN THE APPLICANT DOES REQUEST A 20 YEAR SUV FOR THE LAUNDRY, SELF SERVE LAUNDROMAT. USE OUR NEW SCP POLICY GUIDELINES. RECOMMEND 5 TO 8 YEARS FOR USES NOT PROPOSING ANY SITE IMPROVEMENTS. STAFF IS NOT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON THE USE ITSELF, BUT IF THE PLAN COMMISSION WERE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, THEN WE WOULD RECOMMEND A 5 TO 8 YEAR TIME PERIOD. WE SENT OUT 145 LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED ZERO IN RETURN. I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSION ONE CLARIFICATION THE SUP NEW SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINE THAT MATTHEW HAS SPOKE ABOUT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARD IT. IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL IN A WORK SESSION, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN FORMALLY ADOPTED YET. SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND CLARIFY THAT THAT SOUNDED NEW. YEAH, THIS IS NOT THE ITEM TO DISCUSS THAT, BUT GENERALLY FOR THIS KIND OF PROPOSALS, WHEN THERE IS A SUITE IN AN EXISTING SITE AND THERE'S NO SITE IMPROVEMENT RELATED FOR THOSE KIND OF PROJECTS, WE ARE WE ARE STARTING TO RECOMMEND 5 TO 8 YEARS. GREAT. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, LET ME. YES, MA'AM. YOU SHOWED THE MAP A WHILE AGO.

I THINK YOU SAID THERE WAS THREE LAUNDROMATS WITHIN A MILE RADIUS. ROUGHLY. YES, SIR. I'VE LIVED IN THIS AREA OF THE WHERE THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE, AND THERE'S TWO SHOPPING CENTERS THERE IN THE ENTIRE AREA AROUND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH CONSIST OF OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. SO THERE'S A LOT THERE COULD BE A LOT OF OF MARKET THERE FOR LAUNDROMATS. I KNOW THERE WAS A LARGE ONE THERE THAT CLOSED IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO. YES, SIR. JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THERE WAS A LAUNDROMAT SELF-SERVE. SAME USES. THIS AND THE SOUTHERN LARGER SHOPPING CENTER BUILDING ON THE SITE. AND THAT DID CLOSE RECENTLY. PER THE APPLICANT AND OWNER. I WANT TO I WANT TO CLARIFY. WE TALK ABOUT THERE'S NO IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY, BUT TO PUT A LAUNDROMAT IN.

HE'S GOING TO SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY OF INTERIOR EQUIPMENT MIGHT BE

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CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER IT AND ALLOW THE RENEWAL. BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT WHERE THERE IS A LEASE AGREEMENT AND AN SP GUIDELINE, BUT WE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR US TO ALWAYS ALIGN OUR TIMELINE RECOMMENDATION WITH INDIVIDUAL LEASE AGREEMENTS THAT A PROPERTY OWNER MAY HAVE WITH THE TENANT. RIGHT. I GUESS JUST IN MY BACKGROUND OF CAREER, I CAN SEE THE REASON FOR ASKING FOR THIS FOR 20 YEARS BECAUSE OF THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT. MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN GIVE US AN IDEA OF HIS INVESTMENT IN CREATING THIS BUSINESS, BUT I THINK PERSONALLY I WOULD LOOK AT THAT IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROPERTY, BUT A MAJOR ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY OVER THE YEARS. YES. THANK YOU, MR. DUCKWORTH, JUST TO KIND OF, I GUESS, AGREE OR POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS WITH THAT. YES.

IN OUR PC REPORT, THE APPLICANT'S LEASE WAS MENTIONED TO BE MATCHING THE REQUEST OF THE SP. AND THEN AS FOR THE KIND OF INVESTMENT TO THE PROPERTY OR WHATEVER HE'S DOING WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION OF HIS OWN, AND HE WOULD LIKELY BE ABLE TO GET INTO THAT WITH YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS. THIS IS OUR FIRST LAUNDROMAT CASE WE'VE HEARD BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR AFTER CITY COUNCIL SAW THE PLETHORA OF LAUNDROMATS BEING PERMITTED, THAT THEY REQUESTED THAT THE SP BE ATTACHED TO THIS USE IN COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT. YES, SIR. COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING. AND AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE QUITE A FEW MORE OF THESE COME ALONG DOING A LITTLE RESEARCH. AND AS WE WE'VE ALL SEEN IN THE PAST, THINGS COME IN WAVES. MOST RECENT ONE BEING CAR WASHES FROM ABOUT 2019. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF PRIVATE EQUITY AND INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS INVESTING IN CAR WASHES. SO WE GOT TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF THEM. WELL, CAR WASHES HAVE SATURATED THEIR MARKET. SO THESE INVESTORS ARE MOVING ON TO OTHER ITEMS. AND ONE OF THEM BEING LAUNDROMATS. FROM MY RESEARCH IN THE APPLICANT, CAN, YOU KNOW, CORRECT ANYTHING I SAY HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING MORE OF THESE. AND AND PART OF THIS IS THAT THESE WILL BE LIKE THE NEW CAR WASHES ARE UPGRADED, MORE SERVICES THAN NEW LAUNDROMATS SHOULD BE UPGRADED WITH FOLDING SERVICES. THEY'RE ALSO PROBABLY GOING TO USE CREDIT CARD TAPPING, DO STUFF LIKE THAT, AND ALSO GO THE OH, LET'S CALL THEM THE MONTHLY CHARGE, PROBABLY WHERE YOU CAN COME IN AND USE ALL THE UNITS, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MUCH YOU NEED A MONTH AND CHARGE THAT WAY. SO THIS MAY BE A NEW BRAND, BUT STILL WITH NUMBERS OF THEM, AND WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY NOT TO OVERSATURATE OUR MARKETS. AND THAT'S JUST A LITTLE QUICK BACKGROUND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. GOT THE APPLICANT HERE FAYE. BUT HER. COME ON DOWN. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. HI THERE I'M BARRY. THANK YOU BARRY. PREVIOUSLY OF DENTON AND DALLAS AND NOW HAVING RECENTLY MOVED TO FLORIDA. DO YOU NEED THE ACTUAL ADDRESS. YEAH, IT'S 16 SOUTH LAKE DRIVE, SANTA ROSA BEACH. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING ME FOR A MOMENT. I HAVE TO ADMIT, I'M

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SO IT'S A BIT OF A SURPRISE. I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. JUST BRIEFLY. MY AGENDA IS TO TELL YOU WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO, WHY I THINK IT'S RELEVANT, AND TO ASK FOR YOUR INDULGENCE IN THE. THE REQUEST, AS MATTHEW POINTED OUT, IS FOR AN SCP FOR SELF-SERVICE LAUNDROMAT THAT ALSO INCLUDES FLUFF AND FOLD SERVICES. THAT'S IMPORTANT. THE THE PLACE IS STAFFED WHENEVER IT IS OPEN. IT IS NOT SOLELY A SELF-SERVE LAUNDROMAT, AND THE REQUEST IS FOR 20 YEARS, BECAUSE THAT DOES ALIGN WITH BOTH THE LEASE AND FINANCING. I'LL MENTION THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THE FACILITY ITSELF IS A TOP QUALITY OFFERING. SPEED QUEEN HAS VERY HIGH STANDARDS FOR THEIR BRAND IN TERMS OF THE POSITIONING FOR FAMILY, FAMILIES, SAFETY, SECURITY, FINANCES AND SO ON. WE MUST ADHERE TO ALL THOSE THINGS. THE STORE ITSELF IS CLEAN, BRIGHT AND NEW. ROUGHLY 95 MACHINES, ALL NEW EQUIPMENT WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S RELEVANT THERE IS THAT TECHNOLOGY INCLUDES NO CASH TRANSACTIONS, LARGELY FOR SAFETY PURPOSES. SO ALTHOUGH WE DO FLUFF AND FOLD, WE HAVE THE MACHINES. THE ONLY CASH THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE PLACE IS TO THE CHANGING MACHINES AGAINST THE WALL. WE ARE FAMILY FRIENDLY, THEIR SEATING AND TABLES. IT IS BRIGHTLY LIT. THERE'S INTERNET FOR THE CUSTOMERS, THERE'S A KIDS AREA WITH IPADS FOR GAMES AND LEARNING. IT IS DESIGNED TO BE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE TO TAKE THEIR FAMILIES, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE FOR A WHILE. I WANT TO SHOW UP JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURES SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND ROUGHLY WHAT THE BUILD OUTS LOOK LIKE. THERE YOU CAN SEE THE TABLES AND THE IPADS AT THE STATIONS BEHIND. AS I SAID, WE DO OFFER SINCE WE'RE STAFFED ALL THE TIME, WE DO OFFER FLUFF AND FOLD AS WELL. SO SAFE AND SECURE. WE ARE ALWAYS STAFFED. THERE'S NEVER A MOMENT WHEN THERE'S NOT AT LEAST ONE EMPLOYEE WORKING THERE, AND THEY'RE COMMONLY MORE. THERE'S A FULL SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM. SECURITY IS IMPORTANT TO US. THE PREMISES ARE ALARMED. THERE'S ALSO PANIC BUTTONS AND SECURE ROOMS FOR THE STAFF SHOULD ANYTHING EVER OCCUR. AND AS I SAID, THERE ARE NO DIRECT CASH TRANSACTIONS. EVERYTHING IS DESIGNED TO BE VERY SAFE. ENVIRONMENTALLY. WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING YOU WOULDN'T DO IN YOUR OWN HOME. THERE ARE NO UNUSUAL CHEMICALS. THERE'S NO UNUSUAL PROCESSES. THERE'S NO NEED FOR ADDITIONAL TREATMENT OF THE WATER OR THE AIR. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF TRASH BEING GENERATED. AGAIN, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH SOMETHING LIKE YOU WOULD DO IN YOUR HOME. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING BEYOND THAT. WE ARE BRINGING JOBS TO THE AREA. THE PLACE IS ALWAYS STAFFED, AS I SAID, WITH BETWEEN 1 AND 3 PEOPLE, WE EXPECT TO HIRE AROUND 20 INDIVIDUALS INITIALLY. MOST OF THOSE WILL BE PARENTS WITH CHILDREN WHO ARE SEEKING PART TIME EMPLOYMENT. AND THE REASON WE PICKED NORTH STAR PLAZA IS BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S A VERY SOLID NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE. AS WAS MENTIONED, A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IT'S A GOOD MIX OF RETAIL THAT WE THINK WILL BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL. WE'VE GOT GROCERY, WE'VE GOT HARDWARE. WE'VE GOT REASONS FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY BE IN THE AREA AND INTERACT WITH US, AND WE CONSIDER IT TO BE VERY LOW COMPETITION.

ALTHOUGH, AS MATTHEW NOTED, THERE ARE SEVERAL LAUNDROMATS WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS.

LAUNDROMATS ARE ACTUALLY A HYPER LOCAL BUSINESS, UNLIKE, SAY, A GROCERY STORE OR ANOTHER SERVICE. YOU DON'T DECIDE TO STOP BY A LAUNDROMAT ON YOUR WAY HOME BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE CLOTHES IN THE BACK OF YOUR CAR. LAUNDROMAT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT VERY CLOSE TO YOUR HOME BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING WITH YOU. YOU'RE SPENDING TIME THERE AND YOU'RE COMING BACK HOME.

AND IN PARTICULAR, FOR FAMILIES WITH ONLY ONE CAR, HAVING CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE HOUSE ALLOWS ONE MEMBER OF THE FAMILY TO DROP OFF THE OTHER, RUN OTHER ERRANDS AND THEN COME BACK. SO UNLIKE A LOT OF THINGS, LAUNDROMATS ARE VERY LOCAL. WE USUALLY CONSIDER LESS THAN HALF A MILE RADIUS AS BEING THE RELEVANT MARKETPLACE. THIS IS. MATTHEW SHOWED THIS BEFORE I ACTUALLY MADE A POINT OF STOPPING BY THOSE FOUR LOCATIONS TODAY, JUST TO LOOK AT THEM ALL. ONCE AGAIN, I HAVEN'T DONE SO IN A FEW MONTHS. NONE OF THEM ARE STAFFED.

WHENEVER THEY'RE OPEN. THEY DO NOT OFFER FLUFF AND FOLD SERVICES. THEY ARE IN VARIOUS VARYING DEGREES OF CONDITION. MOST OF THEM HAVE RELATIVELY NEW EQUIPMENT. SOME OF THEM HAVE MORE OR LESS OR MORE TRASH AND UPKEEP. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY WERE REASONABLY GOOD AND COMFORTABLE PLACES, BUT WE WOULD NOT CONSIDER THEM TO BE DIRECT COMPETITORS. I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE INVESTMENT. WE DO HAVE TO FINISH THE ENTIRE SUITE, PUT NEW SIGNAGE IN. WE NEED LARGE, VERY LARGE AND MULTIPLE AC SYSTEMS. THE LIFESPAN ON THOSE

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WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE GAS, THE WATER AND SO ON. ALL OF THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING OUT OF OUR INVESTMENT. THE INITIAL INVESTMENT IS ROUGHLY $1.4 MILLION. THAT INCLUDES ABOUT $1 MILLION IN EQUIPMENT WITH A TEN YEAR LIFESPAN. AND AS WE NOTED BEFORE, WE'VE SIGNED A LEASE ALLOWING FOR 20 YEARS. THAT'S IT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER JENKINS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. A FEW QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED THE TECHNOLOGY, TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE CASHLESS OPTIONS. ARE THERE OTHER OTHER UPDATES OR TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ADD TO THIS LOCATION BEYOND THE CASHLESS OPTIONS? NOTHING PLANNED AT THE MOMENT. AS I SAID, WE HAVE THE IPADS ON THE INTERNET AVAILABLE. THE CASHLESS OPTIONS ARE THERE.

THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THERE'S CARDS AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE SMARTPHONES, SO THEY CAN MAKE THE EXCHANGE FROM CASH OR FROM BANK ACCOUNTS. AND I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED EVERYTHING IS BILINGUAL. SINCE WE'VE GOT ALL NEW MACHINES. THEY CAN ALL BE SERVICED IN 16 LANGUAGES, BUT SECURITY OPTIONS, CAMERAS, THERE ARE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE.

AS I SAID, WE'VE GOT VIDEO SURVEILLANCE INSIDE AND OUT. WE HAVE PANIC BUTTONS AVAILABLE FOR THE STAFF AND A SECURE ROOM THAT THEY CAN GET INTO A SAFE ROOM EFFECTIVELY, WHERE THEY CAN PUSH A BUTTON AND RUN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS FIRST QUESTION. SECOND, I SEE THAT YOUR LOAN IS IS A TEN YEAR LOAN, BUT YOU SIGNED A 20 YEAR LEASE. ARE THERE, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, ANY PROVISIONS IN YOUR LEASE THAT YOU KNOW, BARRING AN ACT OF GOD? LET'S SAY THE COMMISSION DOES A TEN YEAR REQUIREMENT AND YOU FIND AT THE END OF TEN YEARS IT'S NOT WORKING FOR YOU. THAT WOULD PERMIT YOU TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN YOUR LEASE. I AM PERMITTED TO LEAVE, GIVEN THE INVESTMENT WE'RE MAKING AND WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, WE HAVE NO INTENTION TO DO SO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A QUICK ONE. WHAT ARE YOUR ANTICIPATED HOURS OF BEING OPEN? WELL, PROBABLY START BEING OPEN ABOUT EIGHT TILL 9 OR 8 TILL TEN. HOWEVER, WE HOPE THAT AS THINGS GROW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO OPEN FROM ABOUT 6 TO 12. OKAY. AND THIS IS JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION. YOU GOT A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AROUND THERE. YOU HAVE SOME OLDER STOCK, BUT MOST OF THEM PROBABLY HAVE FACILITIES WITHIN THEM. WHERE'S THE NEED COMING FROM THEM? WELL, THERE ARE A LOT OF APARTMENTS THERE AS WELL, BUT A LOT OF THE NEED IS ACTUALLY DRIVEN BY THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE. AND A LOT OF FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY FAMILIES WITH MORE THAN ONE CHILD, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE DOING LAUNDRY FOR HOURS AND HOURS ON END. AND ONE OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN A LAUNDROMAT IS YOU CAN SHOW UP. YOU CAN START THREE, FOUR, FIVE MACHINES IF YOU NEED TO AND PLOW THROUGH EVERYTHING VERY QUICKLY. OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT ON A WEEKEND, BUT DURING THE WEEK, MORNINGS AND EVEN SOME EVENINGS, IT'S EFFECTIVE. I THINK I KNEW THAT, BUT IT HELPS. ANOTHER THING, AND THIS IS MORE HISTORICAL AND IT MAY NOT BE AN ISSUE AT ALL, IS IN THE PAST.

AND I'D SAY THIS IS TEN PLUS YEARS AGO, THAT SOME OF THE LAUNDROMATS THAT WEREN'T QUITE MAKING IT STARTED PUTTING IN VIDEO GAMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, ALMOST BECOMING A GAMING ROOM.

ANY INTENTIONS ON DOING ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IF THEY WERE DOING IT FOR MORE INCOME, AND THEN THEN YOU STARTED GETTING INTO OTHER AREAS OF ZONING AND LAW AND STUFF? NO.

AND IN FACT, THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT PRECLUDES US FROM DOING ANYTHING EXCEPT LAUNDRY.

WE ARE REQUIRED BY THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT TO BE STAFFED AT ALL TIMES. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL ANYTHING THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO LAUNDRY SO EARLY FOR EARLIER.

FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY I SAW WHAT APPEARED TO BE A LIQUOR STORE OPERATING FROM WITHIN A LAUNDROMAT. NO, NONE OF THAT IS POSSIBLE. SO THERE WILL BE NO LOTTERY TICKETS. BASICALLY THE ONLY THINGS WE ARE ALLOWED TO SELL, PER THE AGREEMENT, ARE THINGS DIRECTLY RELATED TO LAUNDRY. AND I SHOULD SAY THAT THE WAY THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN, SHOULD I DEVIATE FROM IT IN ANY WAY, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME IN AND TAKE IT OVER. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. AND IF I WASN'T GOING TO ASK IT, COUNCIL PROBABLY WOULD HAVE. SO GOT THAT. GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY FOR YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OH, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AS YOU WERE DOING YOUR RESEARCH INTO THIS, AND BASED ON THE

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FLUFF AND FOLD IS A BYPRODUCT OF THAT. IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE THERE AT ALL TIMES, THEN IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THEM DOING SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY TO HAVE THEM ON THE FLOOR. SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IF THEY HAVE A IF THEY HAVE LAUNDRY, FLUFF AND FOLD LAUNDRY THAT'S BEEN DELIVERED BY SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT ON THE FLOOR USING THE MACHINES, WHICH GIVES THEM MORE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH THE PEOPLE AND HELP ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE HAVING AN ISSUE. BUT THE DIFFERENTIATOR IS ALWAYS STAFFED. I WALKED INTO THOSE OTHER PLACES TODAY. I DID SEE SOMEONE SWEEPING IN ONE OF THEM, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, THEY WERE EITHER EMPTY OR THEY HAD ONLY CUSTOMERS. AND IN OUR CASE, BECAUSE WE ARE FULLY STAFFED AT ALL TIMES, WE CAN USE THAT. WE CAN USE THAT EXTRA LABOR TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE. SO IF THAT MAKES SENSE, THE DIFFERENTIATOR IS TRE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY THERE, BECAUSE SAFETY IS A BIG PART OF OUR BRANDING. AND THE SIDE EFFECT IS THAT WE OFFER THE FLUFF AND FOLD AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, COMMISSIONER.

PARIS. GOOD EVENING. HELLO. JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION ON SERVICE. I HAVE SEEN NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS AREA, BUT IN OTHER AREAS WHERE A LAUNDROMAT CAN ALSO HAVE A DRY CLEANING ELEMENT TO IT. WILL THIS ALSO HAVE THAT OR IS IT JUST THE FLUFF? WE WILL NOT.

AND BY FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WE ARE PRECLUDED FROM DOING SO. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH IS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS. MATT MAY HAVE TO ANSWER IT. HOW LONG HAS THAT PROPERTY BEEN VACANT? DO YOU KNOW THE ACTUAL SUITE THAT I'M LOOKING AT? YES, SIR, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S LOOKING I KNOW. IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO TESTIFY, I NEED YOU TO. OH, SORRY. USE THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. YOU WANT TO BE ON TV ANYHOW, RIGHT? NAME AND ADDRESS? YEAH. MAX JOHNSON, 841 CASTLE CREEK DRIVE, COPPELL, TEXAS. I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR LEASING THE PROPERTY AND I WAS LETTING YOU ALL KNOW THE PREVIOUS USE WAS A VET. I KNOW, AND IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR CLOSE TO ABOUT THREE YEARS AND IT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE I'D BEEN THERE. THE PREVIOUS LAUNDROMAT WAS LIKE THEY MENTIONED, IN THE REAR OF THE CENTER AND 3000FT■S, AND THEY WERE THERE FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS. AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS RUNNING THAT ONE HAD RETIRED IS WHY HE HAD GONE OUT THERE, AND HE HAD GONE THERE. IT HAD DEFINITELY GOTTEN A LITTLE TIRED OVER THE YEARS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE EXCITED TO SEE SOMEONE LIKE BARRY AND THE OPERATION AND PRESENTATION HE GAVE Y'ALL, AND THE POSITIONING OF THE SHOPPING CENTER AS WELL. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE VERY COMPLIMENTARY. I'M SORRY. WHAT WHAT IS YOUR CONNECTION WITH THE PROPERTY? YES. SO I'M THE LEASING AGENT ON THE PROPERTY, SO I REPRESENT THE LANDLORD. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANK YOU SIR, I THINK I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW. I'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO SHOULD TESTIFY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. YES. TO YOUR QUESTION, I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAS CLARIFIED FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY IN OUR CONDITIONS, WE HAVE A CLAUSE FOR ABANDONMENT. SO IF THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE TENANT SUBMITS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THE SP HAS BEEN GRANTED FOR, THAT AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMES THAT THE SP HAS BEEN ABANDONED. SO UNLESS THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING WITHOUT A PERMIT OR A CEO, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO OPERATE SOMETHING ELSE OUT OF IT

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COMMISSIONER ABLE. AND I GUESS MY MY QUESTION IS MORE FOR STAFF. IF WE OR IF WE DECIDED TO GO LIKE A TEN YEAR CODE WOULD BE THE ENFORCEMENT FOR UPKEEP OF THE BUILDING, THINGS LIKE THAT. NOT NECESSARILY THE SUV, CORRECT? NO, THE SUV CONDITION, IT WOULD BE. BUT DURING THAT TIME THEY HAVE WE HAVE THE ABANDONMENT CLAUSE AND CODE WOULD BE WATCHING TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDING IS KEPT UP AND SIGNAGE AND EVERYTHING OUTSIDE IS CORRECT FOR THE OVERALL SITE. YES, BUT FOR THE TIME FRAME ITSELF, AS YOU REMEMBER, WE ARE WORKING ON SALESFORCE PERMITTING SOFTWARE, WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY BE TRACKING THAT TIME FRAME AND SENDING WARNINGS AS THE TIME COMES FOR THEM. FOR THE SP TO BE RENEWED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SEE? NO OTHER QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY IN THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS UP TO YOU. ALL MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. YOU MADE IT READY FOR A MOTION, SIR. GO FOR IT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST WITH A 20 YEAR SP. DO I HEAR A SECOND? NO. SECOND. I'M GUESSING. I THINK IT'S THE TIME FRAME THAT MAY BE NOT GETTING THE SECOND, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT THE COMMENTS I MADE A WHILE AGO. THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT FOR THREE YEARS. WE'RE RECEIVING NO INCOME FROM THAT. SO EVEN IF WE HAVE TO STRETCH THE SP AND I AND MY APOLOGIES TO STAFF, BUT I JUST THINKING FROM A BUSINESS BACKGROUND, I'VE GOT THAT WE GET THAT PROPERTY, THAT LAUNDROMAT IN THERE, WE START GENERATING TRAFFIC INTO THAT AREA. IT WILL HELP THE WHOLE AREA. THEY ALL FEED OFF OF EACH OTHER. THE BUSINESSES DO. AND UNLESS COMMISSIONER WANTS A SECOND, I'M GOING TO DECLARE THE MOTION DEAD FOR LACK OF A SECOND, AND WE'LL DO SOME DISCUSSION. AND THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION HERE.

COMMISSIONER ABLE, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO INTO DISCUSSION MODE BETWEEN US. OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS ONLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OH, THAT'S OKOKAY. WE CAN ALWAYS DO THIS BY A SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THAT MAKES IT EASY. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOU WERE THE NEXT TO CHIME IN. SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, MORE TO YOUR POINT, I WOULD AGREE THAT BLIGHT IN A CITY UNOCCUPIED AND UNUSED COMMERCIAL SPACES THAT HAVE A TREND OF NEGATIVELY IMPACTING ECONOMIC VALUE IS A HUGE ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. I'M WITH THAT SAID, BASED UPON THE APPLICANT'S TESTIMONY AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF THE MINDSET THAT THE TEN YEAR PERIOD MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE ONLY BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY PASSED ITS RECENT CHANGES TO THIS SPECIFIC TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, AND I SUSPECT THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE SOME OVERSIGHT JUST TO ENSURE THAT THE INVESTMENT CONTINUE IN THE FORD AND THE FORD POSITION, AS IT WERE. I LIKE COMPETITION. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE APPLICANT HAS DONE SOME MARKET RESEARCH AND DETERMINED THAT HIS HIS INVESTMENT WILL GO FURTHER, THAT THE SURROUNDING. AND I'M SURE THAT IF THE APPLICANT'S PERSPECTIVE AND DEVELOPMENT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE IMAGES THAT HE'S PROVIDED TONIGHT, THAT THAT WILL LIKELY OCCUR. AND IT'S FOR THOSE REASONS THAT I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF THE TEN YEAR AS OPPOSED TO THE 20 YEAR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ABEL. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MIRROR COMMISSIONER JENKINS. I I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE TEN YEAR BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO ROLL OUT THE SOFTWARE TO BE MONITORING THIS, WE WILL HAVE TIME TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT IN TEN YEARS AND SEE IF IT WAS THERE, SEE IF THE INVESTMENT IS STAYING THERE, AND ASSURE THAT EVERYTHING

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PREPARE TO VOTE.

NO. MINE DIDN'T SHOW UP. A MINE WAS ALSO YES VOTE. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT PASSES EIGHT ZERO, SO THAT WOULD BE UNANIMOUS. GOOD LUCK SIR. OR MY VOTE DOESN'T COUNT.

[c. Z 25-41 ZoneDev (District 8)]

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. STEWART STOREY, PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AMENDMENTS TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO MODIFY SIGN STANDARDS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON 1602 BELTLINE ROAD, IS 4.54 ACRES AND IS ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 21 DASH 29.

THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 8063 DISTRICT AND IS DEVELOPED WITH AN EXISTING MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITY. THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ALSO A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. ZONED MF ONE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT, AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY SF SEVEN DISTRICT AND CONSISTS OF EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS ZONED RETAIL DISTRICT AND IS DEVELOPED WITH AN EXISTING MULTI-TENANT BUILDING. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE APPROVED USE OR SITE DESIGN, AND THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT INCREASE THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT OR AFFECT COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING USES. THE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS WILL INCREASE SIGNAGE VISIBILITY ALONG BELTLINE ROAD AND CREATE A MORE URBAN STREETSCAPE. ENHANCED VISIBILITY SUPPORTS WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS BY IMPROVING WAYFINDING AND PEDESTRIAN ORIENTATION.

CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION. SO HERE WE GOT SOME PICTURES TAKEN. TAKEN FROM BELTLINE ROAD WHERE THE SIGN IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED. AND THEN HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SIGN IS BEING PROPOSED. EXACTLY THE EXACT LOCATION. IT'S THAT RED SQUARE ON THE TOP OF THE OF THE EXHIBIT. AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ELEVATION EXHIBITS SHOWING HOW THE SIGN IS GOING TO LOOK ONCE IT IS ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING AND THEN TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE A UP CLOSE LOOK OF THE SIGN ITSELF THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TODAY. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ALREADY APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY PROVIDING LANDSCAPING IN EXCESS OF A

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SO WE THINK IT WARRANTS A PROJECTING OR BLADE STYLE SIGN THAT YOU SEE IN AN URBAN DEVELOPMENT OR EVEN A TOWN CENTER. THERE'S LOCATION SITE OFF THE OFF THE CORNER. THE PROPOSED BLADE SIGN, IT'S PROPOSED LOCATION IS AT THE ENTRANCE. YOU CAN SEE IT'S A FIXED TO THE BUILDING, SO IT DOESN'T. IT'S STILL ROUGHLY 30 TO 40FT FROM THE ROAD. SO IT'S NOT DOESN'T HAVE A VISUAL IMPACT UP AGAINST THE ROAD LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE ON A FREESTANDING SIGN. WOULD DISPLAY MILTON MILLENNIUM MILLENNIUM VILLAGE AGAIN, IT'S PROJECTING. IT'S AN INTERNALLY LIT ALUMINUM SIGN. IT'S ABOUT 100FT■S, MEASURES APPROXIMATELY 25 BY JUST UNDER FOUR FEET WIDE, AND WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 17FT OFF THE GROUND. SO IT MEETS THE CLEARANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR EVEN WALKING UNDER THE SIGN OR EVEN DRIVING, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT. IT'S NOT UNDER A DRIVEWAY. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT NORTH ELEVATION FACING THE DEVELOPMENT FROM BELTLINE, YOU WOULD SEE THE SIGN. IT'S IT'S JUST THE END OF THE SIGN. YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT. IT'S IN THE MIDDLE LEFT THERE. SO WHERE IT'S MOST VISIBLE, OF COURSE, IS WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING EAST OR WEST AWAY FROM THE BUILDING, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN OR ON THE SIDEWALK YOU CAN SEE THERE IT STARTS ROUGHLY THE TOP OF THE SECOND FLOOR AND EXTENDS UP TO THE NEAR THE TOP OF THE FOURTH FLOOR, BUT BELOW THE PARAPET. IT'S ARCHITECTURALLY BLENDS WELL. LOOKS LIKE MORE LIKE AN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT OF THE BUILDING. ALWAYS PREFERRED THESE SIGNS TO FREESTANDING SIGNS. AS A PLANNER. A COUPLE

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YOU CAN SEE THERE IT'S COVERED BY TREES MAINLY, BUT IT IS IS IS THERE ALSO? DICK'S SPORTING GOODS ALSO HAS A SIMILAR SIGN AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. WE WOULD ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST. WE THINK IT'S ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND MATCHES AND IS SUPPORTED BY THE FACT IT'S A IT'S AN URBAN FORM DEVELOPMENT. I VALUE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S ON A MID MID BLOCK PROPERTY AND WE THINK IT'S JUST APPROPRIATE JUST GIVEN, GIVEN THE LOCATION, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. FISHER. SEEING NONE. YOU SAID THE MAJOR IMPACT WILL BE FROM THE FROM THE STREET. AND IT'S NOT THAT ACTUALLY IT'S THE BALCONIES ON EITHER SIDE. THEY'LL SEE IT MORE. IS THAT BRIGHTLY LIGHTED TO WHERE IT'LL SHINE IN? OR THE CITY HAS LIGHTING STANDARDS WHERE YOU CAN'T CREATE, YOU KNOW, GLARE AND LIGHTING ISSUES. THERE WILL DEFINITELY BE CAREFUL NOT TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE OUR OUR IMMEDIATE RESIDENTS UPSET THERE WITH THE GLARE. THOSE MAY BE DISCOUNTED UNITS OR SOMETHING.

WELL I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. MAYBE. OKAY. I KILLED ENOUGH TIME FOR COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO THINK OF SOMETHING. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. FISHER, GOOD TO SEE YOU. QUESTION IS, YOU POINTED OUT THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TREES. THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND R REGARDING LANDSCAPING. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S BEING PLACED IN AS IT RELATES TO THE SIGN REQUEST? WELL, THE THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN SURPLUS THERE WAS WITH THE SHRUBS. THOSE SHRUBS ARE LOW LEVEL SHRUBS. AND SO THIS SIGN BEING AT LEAST 17FT AND HIGHER OFF THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, THOSE SHRUBS WOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH THE SIGN THERE.

OF COURSE, SOME TREES IN THE BUFFER, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT AFFECT VISIBILITY, THE SIGN AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, IT WILL BE A LITTLE SIGN WILL BE A LITTLE MORE VISIBLE THAN, LET'S SAY, THE FIFTH STREET CROSSING SIGN, BECAUSE THE STREET CROSSING SIGNS A LITTLE LOWER, THIS ONE WILL BE A LITTLE HIGHER, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD. AND THAT WAY WE GET SOME HEIGHT ABOVE TREES, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS. BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND GARISH AT ALL. NO.

NO, SIR. APPRECIATE APPRECIATE THAT WORD USAGE. I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS TO THIS ITEM. ANYBODY ELSE CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? COMMISSIONER ABEL, LET ME GET YOU ALIVE HERE. GO FOR IT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. THANK A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL.

COMMISSIONER PARIS USED HER BUTTON. SHE GETS THE SECOND. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS. SO PREPARE TO VOTE. I KIND OF GOOD. OKAY. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT, NEXT

[d. Z 25-44 David Najafi (District 3)]

USE. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, IS ZONED MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT AND IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH

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AND AND IT DOES. THIS DOESN'T LIMIT FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT. AND POTENTIALLY AT THIS LOCATION.

CORRECT. AND WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO I GUESS I SAW A A REFERENCE TO REDEVELOPMENT FOR THIS. NO, I COULD BE MISTAKEN. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE. I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO THINK.

OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY PARTICULAR REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS, PARTICULARLY TO THIS LOCATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS AROUND LANDSCAPING. SO THE REQUIREMENTS AROUND LANDSCAPING ARE IN REGARDS TO THEIR LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT IS ALREADY APPROVED. AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THIS IS APPROVED OR DENIED, THE PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN. OKAY. AND THEN I DON'T WELL, JUST AS WHEN WE GO INTO DISCUSSION, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SP. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I HAVE A PERSPECTIVE, SO I'LL WAIT TILL ALL THE OTHERS. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. AND DO NOT HAVE A SPEAKER CARD ON THIS ONE. IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WISH TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. COME ON DOWN. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

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THERE'S GOING TO BE COMMUNITY FRIENDLY SPACE AS WELL AS A YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY. EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS MODERNIZED. HIS BUILDING IS READY TO GO. EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE NEW BECAUSE IT IS A NEW BUILDING IN GENERAL. SO I ST WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND SEE IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT MUCH ELSE THAN WHAT WE PRESENTED. SURE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER PEARS. OKAY, GOOD. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION AND FOR SIGNAGE? WILL YOU BE SIGNED FACING ROWEN SIGNED FACING 30. SO AND AND OKAY, SO FOR THE HOURS OF OPERATION EVENTUALLY WE WANT TO GET TO ABOUT 6 TO 11. YOU KNOW THOSE HOURS INITIALLY WE HAD SAID 7 TO 11 ON THE PAPERWORK. SO IT WILL BE AROUND THOSE. AND WE CAN OF COURSE ADJUST AS NEEDED. AS FAR AS THE SIGN, BOTH ARE ON BOTH SIDES AND WE COULD ALSO, IF THAT'S NOT A DESIRE, WE CAN DO ONE SIDED SIGNAGE. IS THAT WHAT THE QUESTION IS? YES. WILL THERE BE TWO SIDES? I WAS I WAS JUST WONDERING WHICH IF YOU PLAN TO GO ON ONE OR THE OTHER, IF YOU WERE OPPOSED TO ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH. SO YOU'RE HOPING FOR BOTH. YEAH. YEAH. THAT IS THE GOAL. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PEARS. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I THINK WE NEED TO GET HER ADDRESS FOR. OH, YEAH. NEED YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE, SIR.

CURRENTLY 3225 TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, SO HAVE A SEAT IF WE NEED TO. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP. THANK YOU. LIKE I SAID, I HAD NO SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS IT? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER PEIRCE, THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OF COMMISSIONERS. YEAH, I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THE MOTION. FIRST MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PEARSON, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABLE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY.

FOR. ONE. CAN I ASSUME YOU VOTED FOR IT? OKAY. I BELIEVE IT'S HE'S GOING TO REINITIALIZE.

OH, THERE YOU GO. UNANIMOUS. LIKE I FIGURED. WE ARE IN DISCUSSION MODE NOW, COMMISSIONER PARIS, SO I, I DO LIVE IN NEAR AND NEAR THIS AREA AND HAVE DRIVEN PAST IT IN A WHILE. I DO LIKE THAT THE THAT THERE IS A NICE BUILDING AVAILABLE THERE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA TO HAVE A LAUNDROMAT TO GO TO. INFREQUENT AS FAR AS THE SOUP IS CONCERNED, THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GET A BIT MORE

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SO THAT WAS HELPFUL FOR ME TOO. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THOSE BIT OF UPDATES. AS FAR AS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. AND I AM ALSO LOOKING TO DO A RECOMMENDATION OF SOUP FOR TEN YEARS, BUT JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY PERSPECTIVE AND LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS PRESENT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION. YEAH. YES. OKAY, I WAS GIVING I HEARD ALL THE ELEMENTS. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I MOVE, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THIS THIS CASE WITH THE SOUP AT TEN YEARS. SO. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PEARSON, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THE SOUP FOR A PERIOD OF TEN YEARS. AND AND I AGREE WITH THAT TOO. AND PLUS WE'VE GOT A NICE LOOKING BUILDING OUT THERE. IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS. LET'S GET SOMETHING IN THERE, GET SOME SYNERGY GOING. AND. YEAH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT'S LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. IT IS 737 NOW. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF JANUARY 26TH WE ARE

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