ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION

[b. Consider a request by Lockwood Distilling, requesting approval of a Major Waiver to Chapter 7, Table 7-7 of the Garland Development Code to install an awning sign with 24-inch-tall letters, backlit with internal illumination positioned on top of the awning, where only an awning sign with 8-inch-tall letters, no backlighting, and no internal illumination printed, painted or applied directly on the surface of the sign are permitted on a property zoned Downtown (DT) District, Downtown Historic (DH) sub-district in District 2.]

NOW MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM EIGHT B. IT'S CONSIDER A REQUEST BY LOCKWOOD DISTILLING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF MAJOR WAIVER. CHAPTER SEVEN, TABLE 7-7 TO THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO INSTALL AN AWNING SIGN WITH 24 INCH TALL LETTERS, BACKLIT WITH INTERNAL ILLUMINATION, POSITIONED ON TOP OF AN AWNING WHERE ONLY AN AWNING SIGN WITH AN EIGHT INCH TALL LETTERS, NO BACKLIGHTING AND NO INTERNAL ILLUMINATION. PRINTED, PAINTED OR APPLIED DIRECTLY ON THE SURFACE OF THE SIGN ARE PERMITTED ON A PROPERTY ZONED DOWNTOWN DISTRICT DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT IN DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MAYOR. FOR THE RECORD, ELENA, DIRECTOR OF PNNING AND DEVELOPMENT. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THE WHOLE REQUEST AGAIN. IT'S A MOUTHFUL, BUT THE BASIC THING IS THE THE REQUEST IS FOR A SIGN THAT IS BIGGER THAN WHAT OUR SCIENCE STANDARDS ALLOW AND HAVE ILLUMINATION THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED PER OUR SIGN STANDARDS. SO IT IS LOCATED AT 532 MAIN STREET, SUITE A. THE APPLICANT IS LOCKWOOD DISTILLING. THAT'S THE BUSINESS THAT'S WANTING TO COME IN THERE.

IT'S 5000 SQUARE FOOT AND IT'S ZONED IN OUR DOWNTOWN. AND THE SUB DISTRICT IS DOWNTOWN HISTORIC SUB DISTRICT. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS LOCATED IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND IS SURROUNDED BY OUR DOWNTOWN, RIGHT NEXT TO OUR SQUARE AND SURROUNDED BY ALL OUR UNIQUE BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THIS AREA OUT FOR COMMUNITY CENTERS. COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE AREAS WITH COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY NONRESIDENTIAL, SERVING A COLLECTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS TYPE OF BUSINESSES ARE OBVIOUSLY GREAT FOR COMMUNITY

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CENTERS DESIGNATION, BUT REMEMBER, THE BUSINESS IS NOT PART OF THE REQUEST. IT'S THE SIGNAGE THAT'S PART OF THE REQUEST HERE. SOME SITE PHOTOS THAT WE HAVE FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES. HERE'S AN EXHIBIT OF THE PROPOSED SIGN. IT IS. IT IS BEING PUT ON TOP OF THE AWNING THAT WE HAVE WITH CHANNEL LETTERS. AND THOSE LETTERS. LOCKWOOD. EACH LETTER WILL BE ILLUMINATED, ILLUMINATED. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE SIGN THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT IN OUR DOWNTOWN AS WELL. I BELIEVE THIS ONE IS PROBABLY FROM THEIR MCKINNEY LOCATION, AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY SIMILAR, IF NOT THE SAME. STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS APPROVAL PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVAL AS WELL. WE SENT OUT 117 LETTERS.

WE RECEIVED SIX IN FAVOR, AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY IN OPPOSITION. AND WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. I DO WANT TO KIND OF GO BACK AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REQUEST ITSELF. OUR SCIENCE STANDARDS ALLOW EIGHT INCH SIGN, A BLADE SIGN FOR THAT TYPE OF SCIENCE. AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS 24 INCH. AND WE DO NOT ALLOW INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED SIGNS AND, AND BACKLIT SIGNS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE EXAMPLE HERE, THIS IS GOING TO BE ILLUMINATED AND BACKLIT. SO THOSE ARE THE DEVIATIONS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON. SORRY WHAT SIZE ARE THESE VERSUS COMPARED TO LIKE DOSE BAND I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. DOSE DOSE WE'LL JUST SAY DOSE. THEY ARE SLIGHTLY 2141 IS DOS BANDERAS. AND THIS IS 24 OKAY. SO IT'S IT'S SMALLER THAN DOS BANDERAS.

AND THEN WE SAY THAT WE DON'T ALLOW BACKLIT BUT WE GOT LIKE THE NEONS RIGHT. BASICALLY EVERYONE SIGNS ARE LIT UP DOWN THERE. IT'S HOW IT'S BEING LIT. SO THERE ARE SOME OTHER WAYS TO GET THEM LIGHT. LIKE YOU COULD HAVE SOME OTHER LIGHTS BEING PROJECTED ON THE LETTERS.

THERE'S SOME OTHER ONES. SO IT'S JUST THAT TYPE OF INTERNAL BACKLIT ILLUMINATION IS NOT PERMITTED R OUR CODE. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. DID YOU GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION ON THIS REQUEST? ALL WE GOT ARE SIX LETTERS IN FAVOR. NOTHING IN OPPOSITION, NOTHING. NOTHING IN OPPOSITION. NOTHING OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER BEARD. I KNOW WE HAVE ALL THESE RULES FOR DOWNTOWN SIGNS AND EVERY BUSINESS THAT COMES THROUGH, WE HAVE TO DO A WAIVER FOR ALL THE DOWNTOWN SIGNS. CORRECT. BUT THOSE WAIVERS MAKE OUR DOWNTOWN SO UNIQUE AND INTERESTING. AND IT'S ACTUALLY BRINGS MORE INTEREST TO OUR DOWNTOWN. SO. I DON'T THIS IS THEIR STANDARD SIGN FOR THEIR OTHER BUSINESSES, RIGHT. THAT THOSE WERE THEIR SIGNS WHEN THEY CAME TO US. IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE WOULD THINK, HEY, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THEIR SAME SIGNAGE WHEN THEY COME HERE TOO. SO. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK THE SIGN'S BEAUTIFUL. I THINK IT'LL DO. IT'LL ADD TO DOWNTOWN AND BRIGHTEN UP THAT CORNER AND BE AN ADDITION TO WHAT WE NEED. SO THANK YOU. AND TO ADD TO THAT, IN OUR PLANS, WE DO ASK FOR UNIQUE SIGNS. WE DO WANT WALKABLE, PEDESTRIAN THINGS THAT WILL ATTRACT OUR PEDESTRIAN PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO DOWNTOWN. AND THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? AND THEN MADAM SECRETARY, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR. SEAN SAUNDERS AND EVAN BHATT. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK.

IT'S UP TO YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK OR JUST AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, IT'S UP TO YOU.

SAUNDERS. HERE WITH THE COMPANY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE TIMES SO FAR, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR WELCOMING US. THIS SIGN IS CERTAINLY ONE.

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WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER LOCATIONS. IT'S IN THE HISTORIC, HISTORIC DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY SPOT AS WELL. BEAUTIFUL. BACK LIT IT. IT'S DONE IN A WAY WHERE IT TURNS OFF DURING THE DAY. SO IT IS EFFICIENT. SO IT'S NOT AN OVERUSE OF ANY UTILITIES OR ANYTHING. BUT WE DO THINK I THINK THE COMMENT OF IT ADDING TO THAT CORNER, ADDING A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT SHOULD HELP. WE HOPE IT ATTRACTS PEOPLE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU GUYS. ONE SECOND, I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM LOOKED. I LOVE YOUR SIGN. I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT YOUR RESTAURANT. WHEN'S IT GOING TO OPEN? WE'RE WAITING ON THE SIGN. ALL RIGHT.

VERY SOON. WE WERE IN THERE TODAY. EVAN OVER THERE AND I WERE PUTTING TABLES AND CHAIRS AND PAINTINGS UP AND ALL THAT. SO WE'VE BEEN BUSY. HOPEFULLY VERY SOON, LATER THIS MONTH.

THAT'S GREAT. I GOT A SNEAK PEAK DURING THE CHRISTMAS EVENT ON THE SQUARE, SO I'M SUPER EXCITED. IT LOOKED GREAT THEN. I'M SURE IT LOOKS EVEN BETTER NOW, SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BASS. SEAN, NO QUESTION FOR YOU. JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND EVAN BEING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, BRINGING BRINGING YOUR CONCEPT HERE AND PUTTING THE YOUR FAITH AND TRUST IN US. AND I KNOW THAT OUR CITIZENS WILL WILL RETURN THAT THAT TRUST TO YOU.

THANK YOU. REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU GUYS HERE. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, GOOD WANTS TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU, DO YOU IS YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE, WOULD YOU GIVE US ADDRESSES? FIVE. THREE. TWO. SWEET. A RIGHT THERE ON MAIN STREET. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MAYOR. SIR. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS SEAN. SO I HAVEN'T BEEN INTO YOUR RESTAURANT, BUT ABOUT A WEEK AGO, I SAID, LET ME JUST. I WAS OVER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, STOPPED IN RICHARDSON. AND SO IF THAT'S THE KIND OF PLACE WE'RE GOING TO GET IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND, AND I THINK WE'RE THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS LET YOU KEEP YOUR BRANDING, BECAUSE THAT THAT SIGN LOOKS VERY NICE ON YOUR RICHARDSON STORE. THE THE LAYOUT IN RICHARDSON I THOUGHT WAS REALLY GOOD. AND SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING YOU GUYS HERE IN DOWNTOWN. I CERTAINLY APPROVE THIS. WILL VOTE TO APPROVE THIS VARIANCE. THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING GARLAND. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT TAYLOR SWIFT KARAOKE TAYLOR SWIFT KARAOKE NIGHT OKAY.

IF HE DOES THAT, WE MIGHT VOTE TO CENSURE HIM. THAT'S. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM SECRETARY. IS THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER BEARD, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT. MA'AM, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SIGN VARIANCE AS PRESENTED. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER RIORDAN, A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM LUK. ANY DISCUSSION? MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US? MADAM HAS PROVED UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, ON TO

[c. Consider a request by ZoneDev, requesting approval of 1) an amendment to Planned Development (PD) District 21-29 to modify sign standards and 2) a Concept Plan for the location of the sign on a property zoned for Multifamily uses. The site is located at 1602 Belt Line Road in District 8.]

OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM EIGHT C. CONSIDER A REQUEST BY ZONE DEV REQUESTING APPROVAL OF ONE. AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 2129 TO MODIFY SIGN STANDARDS, AND TWO A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE LOCATION OF THE SIGN ON A PROPERTY ZONED FOR LTIFAMILY. USES. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1602 BELTLINE ROAD IN DISTRICT EIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO MODIFY THEIR SIGN STANDARDS. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS 21 DASH 29. IT IS THE BASE ZONING IS MULTIFAMILY. NOTHING IS BEING CHANGED IN THE BASE ZONING OR THE PD EXCEPT FOR THE SIGN STANDARD. AS YOU MENTIONED, LOCATED AT 1602 BELTLINE ROAD. IT'S 4.54 ACRES. HERE YOU SEE THE ZONING MAP. AS YOU CAN SEE THE PD, IT'S A RECENT PD 21 DASH 29. THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, ABOUT TO BE COMPLETED PRETTY SOON. IT IS SURROUNDED BY TO THE TO THE SOUTH. THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. TO THE WEST THERE ARE OTHER. THERE'S OTHER MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH NORTHWEST THERE, OTHER MULTIFAMILY AS WELL. HOWEVER, IT'S ALSO THERE'S ALSO COMMUNITY RETAIL, ZONING AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES TO THE EAST OF THE SITE. SO IT'S TRULY SURROUNDED BY A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES CALL THIS AREA OUT FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE AREAS PROVIDE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND HIGHER

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DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE USE, THIS PROJECT IS 199 UNITS. I BELIEVE 184 OF IT IS MULTIFAMILY UNITS AND 15 OF IT IS TOWNHOME. SO THE PROJECT ITSELF DOES TRULY FULFILL THE DESIGNATION PER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE THE SITE PHOTO. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROJECT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

IT WENT VERTICAL AND PRETTY PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETED. HERE IS THE EXHIBIT WHERE YOU SEE THE RED RECTANGLE. THAT'S WHERE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A BLADE SIGN. THE.

OUR GDC DOES ALLOW ONE BLADE SIGN PER ENTRANCE. THE SIGN MOFICATIONS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS TO HAVE ONE BLADE SIGN FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. HOWEVER, THE SIZE OF THE BLADE SIGN THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING EXCEEDS THE GDC REQUIREMENT. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THAT HERE IN A BIT. HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. THIS IS WHERE THE BLADE SIGN WILL BE LOCATED AT. THIS IS KIND OF A MORE DETAILING OF THE OF THE SIGN. SO IT IS OUR GDC ALLOWS FOR EIGHT SQUARE FEET. IT IS WAY BIGGER THAN THAT. IT IS 100FT■S. BUT WE DO HAVE OTHER EXAMPLES OF BLADE SIGNS IN THIS URBAN FORM OF MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS THAT ARE BIGGER THAN THAT AS WELL. WE WANTED TO SHOW THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, JUST JUST TO SHOW THAT ALONG BELTLINE 90 SHRUBS ARE REQUIRED, BUT THE APPLICANT NOT AS PART OF THIS REQUEST, BUT AS PART OF THEIR SITE PLAN, THEY WERE PROVIDING 139 SHRUBS, WHICH WILL HELP SOFTEN THE IMPACT OF A OF A LARGE BLADE SIGN. SO AGAIN, THE AMENDMENTS WILL SPECIFY THAT THERE WILL BE A MAXIMUM OF ONE BLADE SIGN FOR THIS ENTIRE PROJECT. THE SIGN AREA OF THE BLADE SIGN WILL NOT EXCEED 100FT■S. THE BLADE SIGN HEIGHT. IT'S NOT THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN, IT'S WHERE THE SIGN COULD BE PLACED. FROM THE GRADE IT WILL. THE MAXIMUM WOULD BE 20FT, MEASURED FROM THE LOWEST POINT OF THE SIGN TO GRADE. WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST. IT DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE DO BELIEVE THIS TYPE OF SIGN CAN ENHANCE THE URBAN TYPE OF MULTIFAMILY PROJECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE AND PLAN.

COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. WE SENT OUT 89 LETTERS AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE IN OPPOSITION. THAT'S FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA THAT WAS SENT TO YOU EARLIER TODAY. THE COMMENTS DID SAY THEY DON'T NECESSARILY THINK A BIG SIGN WOULD LOOK GOOD IN THERE, AND THEY BELIEVED IT MAY LOOK UGLY. AND THEY ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT TRAFFIC, WHICH OBVIOUSLY THE DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE MUCH TO DO WITH THE REQUEST FOR THE SIGN. WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON NABILA, CAN YOU GIVE US KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF WHATHY OUR SIGN, LIKE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT BEING 20FT BECAUSE IT IN THE RENDERING IT LOOKS VERY SCALED. YEAH, I MEAN IT LOOKS APPROPRIATE. CORRECT.

AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME SCIENCE BEHIND THE 20 FOOT. IS THAT COMMON FOR URBAN DEVELOPMENT. SO 20 FOOT IS WHERE THE SIGN CAN BE PLACED FROM THE GRADE. THE ACTUAL SIGN AREA ALLOWED IS ACTUALLY EIGHT SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS SO SMALL. AND WHAT THEY'RE HAVING WHICH DOES IN THE RENDERING LOOKS LIKE IT'S UP TO SCALE, IS 100FT, AND IT STILL LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T LOOK OUT OF PROPORTION. I CAN'T TELL WHY OUR SIGN STANDARDS HAVE THAT, BUT AS WE MOVE TOWARD MORE URBAN TYPE OF PROJECTS, THAT IS SOMETHING. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE'RE WORKING ON OUR SCIENCE STANDARDS. THE BLADE SIGNS WEREN'T NECESSARILY A PRIORITY FOR US TO WORK ON, BUT AS THESE KIND OF PROJECTS ARE COMING IN AND WE ARE NOTICING THESE DISCREPANCIES AND SOMETIMES THE LACK OF PRACTICALITY IN OUR STANDARDS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE SIGN STANDARDS HOLISTICALLY. SO YOU'LL BE YOU'LL BE SEEING SOME CHANGES TO THAT. BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF WHY WE HAD EIGHT SQUARE FEET TO BEGIN WITH. THAT'S TINY. IT IS VERY TINY. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'D BE ABLE TO READ ANYTHING, BUT THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN WHEN IT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN THE GDC. IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE FOR THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS. IT WAS PROBABLY PUT IN PLACE FOR A ONE STORY RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING LIKE

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THAT. OKAY, COOL, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM NABILA, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I'M DEFINITELY IN FAR OF THIS. IT'S IT'S SIZE APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROJECT AND IT'S A. WELL, I'LL SAVE THE REST FOR THE APPLICANT. I KNOW HE'S HERE, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE RESPONSE LETTER. THE ONE RESPONSE THAT WE GOT WAS AND THEIR THEIR COMMENT WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SIGN, THAT THEY COULD SEE FROM THEIR FRONT WINDOW, BUT IT APPEARS ON THE MAP WHERE THEY ARE, THE SIGNS ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE COMPLEX, SO THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN AT ALL.

THEY MAY BE SAYING ALONG BELTLINE. THEY MAY NOT WANT TO SEE A SIGN OF THAT SIZE, BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY. I'M JUST READING THEIR COMMENT. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER STUPID SIGN IN VIEW FROM OUR FRONT WINDOW. THAT'S A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE COMMENT HERE. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THIS FROM THEIR FRONT WINDOW. I AGREE, IT'S COMPLETELY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COMPLEX. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS THE CASE. IT IS A LONG BELT LINE ON ONE OF WHERE IT'S BEING PLACED ALONG BELT LINE. EVEN IF YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BELTLINE, YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO SEE IT BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT EDGE ON. NO. IF YOU'RE ON. SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE GOING UP AND DOWN BELTLINE TO EVEN SEE IT AT ALL. IS THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN IF YOU'RE BUT IF YOU'RE DRIVING UP OR EAST OR WEST ON BELTLINE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM THAT ANGLE, BUT NOT IF YOU'RE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. CORRECT. BECAUSE YOUR EDGE ON TO THE SIGN. IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THIS KIND OF A SIGN. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE APPLICANT UP? MAXWELL FISHER.

MR. FISHER, YOU KNOW THE PROCESS. NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION. MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MAXWELL FISHER FOR ZONE TWO, 502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080. REPRESENTING PINNACLE FACILITY ENGINEERING.

ANY OF YOU MAY MAY THIS PROJECT MAY LOOK FAMILIAR JUST FROM VOTING ON IT IN THE PAST OR SEEING IT BEING CONSTRUCTED. IT IS ONE OF THE MORE EXPENSIVE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY, WITH ME DRIVING RENT RATES, PARTICULARLY FOR THIS. THIS AREA OUTSIDE OF FIREWHEEL AND OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN AND OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY. IT IS ROUGHLY 202 HUNDRED UNITS.

ELEVAT SERVE, STRUCTURED PARKING. IT'S GOT TONS OF AMENITIES. IT IS A GREAT ASSET FOR THE CITY. THIS SITE IS IT IS MID-BLOCK. IT'S OFF THE HARD CORNER. SO THERE IS EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDING IS FAIRLY LARGE, WE DON'T HAVE QUITE THE VISIBILITY AS YOU WOULD HAVE ON AN INTERSECTION. THE SIGN IS AS YOU HAVE A SIGN LIKE THIS. IT'S NEAR THE FRONT ENTRANCE. IT WOULD JUST DISPLAY MILLENNIUM VILLAGE. IT'S INTERNALLY LIT ALUMINUM SIGN. IT PROJECTS PERPENDICULAR TO THE BUILDING. AS STAFF MENTIONED, IT'S ABOUT 100FT■S. IT'S 25.5FT TALL AND ABOUT FOUR FEET WIDE. THE VERTICAL CLEARANCE IS ABOUT JUST OVER 17FT. STAFF WAS GIVING US UP TO 20FT JUST SO WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE FROM GRADE. ESSENTIALLY IT WILL EXTEND. THIS IS LOOKING AT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT STRAIGHT AWAY FROM BELTLINE, YOU BARELY SEE THE SIGN. IT'S LEFT OF THE CENTER THERE. YOU'RE SEEING OF COURSE THE END OF THE SIGN. YOU CAN SEE HOW TALL IT IS COMPARED TO THE FACE OF THE BUILDING. AND HERE IT IS LOOKING IF YOU'RE LOOKING WEST, IF YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN BELTLINE, YOU CAN SEE IT STARTS TO TOWARDS THE TOP OF THE SECOND STORY AND EXTENDS UP TO CLOSE TO THE TOP OF THE FOURTH STORY, BUT WELL BELOW THE PARAPET. AND IT'S ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED WITH THE BUILDING. THE OTHER EXAMPLES IN THE CITY WHERE YOU SEE THIS 190 FIREWALL, CAMPBELL AND LOOKOUT HAS THIS TYPE OF SIGN. SO DOES FIFTH STREET CROSSING. FIFTH STREET CROSSING SIGN IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE LARGER. IT'S ABOUT 120 ISH SQUARE FEET IN SIGN AREA. THERE'S ALSO DICK'S SPORTING GOODS, A RETAIL BUILDING THAT HAD A FIREWALL THAT HAS A SIMILAR SIGN LIKE THIS. WE WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE SIGN. WE THINK IT'S ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED WITH THE BUILDING. IT'LL BE A NICE ASSET. IT PROVIDE GOOD ACCESS, GOOD VISIBILITY TO BOTH PEDESTRIANS AND MOTORISTS TRAVELING DOWN BELTLINE. THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR THIS IN THE CITY, AND WE'D ASK YOU TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND THE PLANNING AND PLANNING COMMISSION'S VOTE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS HERE. START WITH MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK, MR. FISHER. HELLO. I REALLY LIKE THE SIGN. I THINK IT ARTICULATES WELL WITH THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ALSO VERY NICE. I'VE DRIVEN BY IT. I LOVE THAT THERE'S A BIG M ON THE TOP OF IT. FOR WHATEVER REASON. SURE. SO I REALLY I REALLY LIKE

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IT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANKS. THANK YOU MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM I MAXWELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS REQUEST TO US. I, I LOVE IT. I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT.

IT'S THIS WHOLE PROJECT HAS BEEN JUST A THRILL TO WATCH. I THINK IT'S THE ONLY CRANE PROJECT THAT THERE'S BEEN IN DISTRICT EIGHT IN A LONG, LONG TIME. SO IT'S BEEN NEAT TO SEE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND LOOK FORWARD TO IT OPENING. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER BASS. THANK YOU.

I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING HERE. THIS IS A OUTSTANDING PROJECT AND WE ALL THINK THE SIGN IS A REALLY GREAT ADDITION TO IT AS WELL. BUT I WANTED TO SAY JUST, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST THREE TERMS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, I HAVE SEEN THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCTS THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT US GETTING BETTER. AND I REALLY LIKE THAT. THE I FEEL THAT BETTER DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING TO GARLAND, AND I'VE SEEN THAT IN THE PROJECTS THAT YOU BROUGHT TO US OVER THE YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE WORD IS OUT THAT GARLAND IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE FOR HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING A PART OF THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUOT HOLDING THE EARLIER PROJECTS. WE ALL LEARN AND GROW TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT. I SEE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT, SIR. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED. MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ON A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US.

COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. YEAH. THAT ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. SIR. MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM

[d. Consider a request by David Najafi, requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) to allow a Laundry, Self-Serve (Laundromat) use and 2) a Concept Plan for the Laundry, Self-Serve (Laundromat) use. The site is located at 429 East Interstate 30 Suites 3, 4, and 5 on a property zoned Neighborhood Services (NS) District in District 3.]

IS ITEM EIGHT D CONSIDER A REQUEST BY DAVID NAJAFI REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PROVISION TO ALLOW LAUNDRY, SELF SERVE, LAUNDROMAT USE, AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE LAUNDRY SELF SERVE LAUNDROMAT USE SITE IS LOCATED AT 429 EAST INTERSTATE 30, SUITES THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE ON A PROPERTY ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DISTRICT IN DISTRICT THREE.

THANK YOU MAYOR. ONCE AGAIN, IT IS A REQUEST FOR AN SCP FOR A LAUNDRY SELF-SERVICE AKA LAUNDROMAT. USE THE PROPERTY ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT. THAT USE DOES REQUIRE AN SCP, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE BEFORE YOU TODAY. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S LOCATED IN DISTRICT THREE. THE WHOLE SITE IS 3.79 ACRES. WITHIN THAT SITE THERE IS AN EXISTING BUILDING, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO OCCUPY THREE SUITES WITHIN THAT BUILDING TO MAKE IT A LAUNDROMAT. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING MAP. THIS IS SURROUNDED BY COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT JUST BUT JUST IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST. THERE ARE MULTIPLE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS GOING ON, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING, LOTS OF NEW NEW PROJECTS GOING ON. THERE'S ALSO HOTEL, DIFFERENT TYPE OF RESTAURANTS AND OTHER COMMERCIAL FACILITIES IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. THE SITE IS ACCESSED FROM I-30 AND RONE.

BOTH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES IDENTIFY THIS AREA AS BUSINESS CENTERS, AND BUSINESS CENTERS ARE GENERALLY LOCATED AT INTERSECTIONS OF MAJOR AND OR SECONDARY ARTERIAL STREETS OR SIGNIFICANT TRANSIT AREAS, SO THESE TYPE OF CATEGORIES. WHEN A COMP PLAN ASKS FOR A BUSINESS CENTER, THEY ARE LOOKING TO HAVE MORE ELEVATED USES, THINGS THAT CAN GENERATE MORE JOBS, MORE EMPLOYMENT, OR SOMETHING MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN A LAUNDROMAT, IN OUR OPINION.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDING IT'S ALREADY THERE.

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THESE ARE THE THREE VACANT SUITES. THERE ARE SOME OTHER PHOTOS FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES.

THIS BUILDING DOES HAVE DOUBLE FRONTAGE,O THAT'S ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT THIS BUILDING. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THESE ARE THE SUITES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE BUILDING.

THEY HAVE ACCESS FROM I-30 FROM RONE AND ALSO FROM UPTOWN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SCP FOR TEN YEAR TIME PERIOD. ACCORDING TO THEM, THAT WILL WORK WELL WITH THE LEASE THAT THEY'RE TAKING WITH THEIR LANDLORD. AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, WE ARE WORKING ON UPDATING THE TIME PERIOD FOR SPS AND BASED ON THE DISCUSSED TIME PERIOD WHICH HASN'T BEEN FORMALLY ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL YET. BUT FOR THESE KIND OF PROJECTS, WHERE THERE IS A BUILDING AND USES GOING INTO AN EXISTING SUITE, WE HAVE DISCUSSED 5 TO 8 YEARS. SO WE ARE TRYING TO KIND OF SOFTLY TRANSITION INTO THAT MINDSET AND THAT TIME PERIOD RECOMMENDATION. SO FOR THIS ONE WE WOULD RECOMMEND 5 TO 10 YEARS. WE DO REALIZE THERE ARE LOTS OF MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS HAPPENING NEARBY. AND THIS TYPE OF USE, THEY CAN FUNCTION WITHIN THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT. IT MAY IT PROBABLY DOES HAVE LIMITED OFFSITE IMPACT. HOWEVER, WE ALSO SEE THAT THE LOCATION ALONG A MAJOR ROADWAY, THERE COULD BE OTHER ALTERNATIVE USES, MORE ELEVATED USES THAT MAY ALIGN MORE WITH THE LONG TERM COMP PLAN BUSINESS CENTER DESIGNATION. SO WE COULD SEE KIND OF PROS AND CONS. THERE ARE EMPTY SUITES ON AN EXISTING BUILDING. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE BUSINESSES GOING IN THERE, BUT WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE RIGHT KIND OF BUSINESSES GOING IN THERE. AND ACCORDING TO THE COMP PLAN, IT'S SUBJECTIVE RIGHT NOW. BUT WE DO THINK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE ELEVATED USES TO GO IN THERE. PLAN COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR TIME PERIOD OF TEN YEARS. WE DID SEND OUT 38 RESPONSES ON YOUR THE PACKET THAT YOU GOT, YOU SAW THERE. WE RECEIVED THREE RESPONSES, ONE IN FAVOR FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AND TWO FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA. ONE IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION. AFTER WE SENT OUT THAT PACKAGE, WE RECEIVED ANOTHER LETTER IN FAVOR FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.

SO THAT BRINGS A TOTAL OF RESPONSES RECEIVED. AS FOR ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT ARE FROM OUT, THAT IS OUTSIDE, THAT IS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA THAT IS IN OPPOSITION, THEY DID SAY THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SEE A LAUNDROMAT BEING APPROPRIATE THERE. WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS ITEM? MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. WHAT OTHER KIND OF USES COULD YOU SEE THERE? AGAIN, IT'S SUBJECTIVE. IT IS A IT IS A REALLY ATTRACTIVE BUILDING IN OUR OPINION. IT HAS DOUBLE FRONTAGE. THERE ARE THERE'S ALREADY A DONUT SHOP. THERE IS A I BELIEVE THERE'S A SALON THERE. THERE ARE A COUPLE DOCTORS OFFICE. I FEEL LIKE OTHER USES THAT ARE MORE ALIGNED WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, MAYBE A COUPLE MORE OFFICES, MAYBE A RESTAURANT, MAYBE A FINE DINING STAFF DOES FEEL LIKE ONCE A LAUNDROMAT IS THERE AND IT'S OCCUPYING THREE SUITES, IT MAY BE HARDER FOR THE LANDLORD TO ATTRACT A FINE DINING RESTAURANT OR MORE A MORE HIGHER END RETAIL FOR THAT LOCATION. BUT AGAIN, ON THESE KIND OF SITUATIONS, WE CAN SEE PROS AND CONS OFOF THE REQUEST I AGREE.HANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. ONE QUESTION IS THIS A DROP OFF OR DO IT YOURSEL OR THEY DO IT AND AND HAND IT TO THE CUSTOMER.

SO THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF IT. BUT PER OUR DEFINITION IT'S SELF-SERVICE THAT WAY. IT'S YES, LAUNDRY SELF-SERVICE, WHICH IS THE DEFINITION THAT THEY'RE BEING CLASSIFIED AS, MEANING PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT BY THEMSELVES. BUT ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THEY WILL BE FULLY STAFFED. BUT THAT'S AN OPERATIONAL MATTER THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE LAND USE. OKAY, I'LL WAIT FOR THAT. AWESOME. THANKS, SIR.

COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THESE WHEN THAT BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED, THIS WAS I BELIEVE THE PERMIT WAS THEY GOT THEY GOT THE PERMIT AROUND WHEN THE GDC WAS BEING UPDATED AROUND 20 1415 AROUND THAT TIME. SO YES, THERE HAS BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT

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PART OF GDC APPLIES TO THEM AND WHAT PART OF GDC DOES NOT. BUT FOR THE USE PERSPECTIVE, IT ALL APPLIES THE TWO DAYS GDC APPLIES. BUT YES, IT'S AROUND 2015, 16 AROUND THAT TIME. SO DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE VACANCY PERCENTAGE IS IN THAT? I DO NOT KNOW THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL SUITES THAT ARE VACANT IN THAT BUILDING. YEAH, I, HAVE ACTUALLY DROVE PAST THAT LOCATION QUITE A BIT, ODDLY, BECAUSE I DON'T GO DOWN THAT WAY. BUT I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE IS A LOT THERE IS A THERE ARE A LOT OF SUITES. SO THAT'S WHERE SOMETIMES FOR A LONG TIME ASIAN COMES IN. LIKE, DO WE WANT TO SEE THOSE SUITES BEING OCCUPIED WITH SOME USES, OR DO WE WANT THE RIGHT KIND OF USES? THAT'S THE QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT. SURE. OKAY. I THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME CHIME IN AGAIN. WHAT USES ARE DO NOT REQUIRE AN SUP IN ORDER TO BE HERE. THEY CAN DO DENTIST OFFICE OR REGULAR OFFICE, GENERAL OFFICE, RESTAURANT. THEY ALREADY GOT AN SUP FOR US. SO LONG. SO THAT ONE'S WELL. NO, I DON'T THINK SALON IS PERMITTED RIGHT NOW. THERE. SO THOSE TYPE OF USES WILL BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT. SO PHILOSOPHICALLY AN SUP BECOMES PART OF A. A ZONING GUIDELINE FOR USES THAT. CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, PEOPLE FROM YEARS AGO DECIDED THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK AT SOMETHING. RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE AN SUP BECAUSE THESE USES MAY NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT WE INTEND FOR THIS AREA, DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION.

CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF ON THIS ITEM? MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE APPLICANT? FAYE BAKER? ALL RIGHT. IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES TO GIVE A PRESENTATION. MY ADDRESS? OKAY.

JUST BUSINESS ADDRESS WORKS AS WELL. 3225 TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS. THANK YOU GUYS FOR LETTING US COME IN HERE AND PRESENT. I KNOW THE TRADITIONAL WHEN THEY SAY SELF-SERVICE LAUNDROMATS, IT KIND OF GIVES THAT IMPRESSION THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING IN AND OUT ON THEIR OWN. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT ANYMORE. THEY'RE THEY'RE HIGH TECH, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY. I JUST I FEEL LIKE IT'S MISLED BY THIS WHOLE SELF-SERVE. IT'S 100% ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON STAFF. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN AREA FOR LIKE CHILDREN, FAMILY, YOU KNOW, LIKE A WI FI AREA SITTING IN A PLAY AREA FOR THE KIDS. SO IT'S NOT REALLY JUST A SELF-SERVE. SO I FEEL LIKE IT'LL BE A NICE FIT. THERE'S A LOT OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES, PEOPLE WITH THE NEED TO COME IN AND DO LARGE AMOUNTS OF LAUNDRY AT ONE TIME VERSUS, YOU KNOW, ONE LOAD AT A TIME AT HOME. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE. GOOD COUNSEL. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DO HEAR COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS START WITH YOU, SIR. WHEN YOU SAY GOOD EVENING, WHEN YOU SAY, CAN YOU GIVE US A LAYOUT AND YOU HAVEOW MANY APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY STAFF PERSONS ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE? AND WILL THEY BE DOING LAUNDRY FOR PEOPLE WHO BRING THEIR LAUNDRY THERE? SURE.

AND THERE IS A SERVICE OF FLUFF AND FOLD. THERE WILL BE. YES, THEY WILL BE DOING THEY CAN DO DROP OFF SERVICE. CORRECT. DROP OFF AND PICK UP. CORRECT. AND THERE WILL BE A SERVICE. SO YOU GIVE THEM, THEY'LL PICK UP A TICKET. SURE. YEAH. IT'S LIKE A IT'S A POS SYSTEM. THEY'LL PUT THEIR NAME IN THERE. YOU KNOW THEIR TAG NUMBER. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE LIKE THE DRY CLEANING.

OKAY OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER BEARD OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR, BECAUSE THERE'S A LAUNDROMAT AROUND THE CORNER FROM ME. IT'S GOT A CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA. IT'S GOT A COUPLE OF VIDEO GAMES. IT'S GOT TABLES THAT YOU CAN SIT AND READ. IT'S GOT A COUPLE OF TVS ON THE WALL. HAS LITTLE PURCHASE AREA IN THE BACK WHERE YOU CAN BUY LAUNDRY.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? SO AND THEY DO OFFER A DROP OFF SERVICE AS WELL AS I CAN GO IN AND WASH MY OWN TEN LOADS OF LAUNDRY ALL AT ONE TIME. RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE MULTIFAMILY OR AROUND YOU? THERE'S. YEAH, ON ROMAN ROAD,

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THERE'S TONS OF APARTMENTS ON THAT. AS A FORMER APARTMENT PERSON, I DO KNOW THAT A LAUNDROMAT NEARBY IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AT TIMES BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE WASHING. IF WE DO EVEN HAVE A WASHING MACHINE, THEY DO GO OUT. SO YOU DO NEED TO HAVE. OKAY, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, SEE IF IT WAS A SIMILAR LAYOUT BECAUSE THE ONE I HAVE THAT MY HOUSE IS VERY NICE. YES, THEY'RE VERY MODERN, HIGH TECH, I MEAN ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, CONSUMER FRIENDLY. IT REALLY IS.

IT'S A NICE ATMOSPHERE. IT'S NOT THE OLD SCHOOL KIND OF SELF-SERVICE. OKAY. I JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE LAYOUT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES WHEN WE COME BEFORE YOU. WITH A PROJECT THAT. AS YOU HAVE HEARD 2 OR 3 OTHER PROJECTS AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THEM, VERY EXCITING. THE SIGNS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. WE'RE TALKING NOW, THOUGH, ABOUT A FRONTAGE ROAD.

I 30 AND FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW, HOW MANY YEARS YOU SAID 2015. CORRECT. THAT WAS WHEN THE INITIAL BUILD OUT WE'RE TALKING NOW 20 1520. WE'RE TALKING 11 YEARS ON THE OTHER SIDE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD TRULY LIKE TO SEE. I TRULY LIKE TO SEE THIS AREA BE MORE UPSCALE.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT, HAVE A NICE RESTAURANT, A LITTLE FAST FOOD OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN 30 AND YOU LOOK TO YOUR LEFT AND TO YOUR RIGHT, THE ESTHETICS ARE SUCH THAT THEY DRAW YOU IN. BUT AS I HAVE STATED IN THE PAST, THIS AREA TRULY HAS TAKEN ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO MATTER OF FACT, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS HERE, AND AS YOU ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, WE'LL GIVE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. TELL ME ABOUT THE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS, THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRESENTLY THERE AND IF YOU WILL, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE BUILDING? I'D LIKE FOR THE BUILDINGS AS WE LOOK. OH. THIS ONE. YES. NO, NO NO NO, THE OTHER ONE. THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS. OH, YES. THERE YOU GO, THERE YOU GO. AND AS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUILDING STRUCTURE. BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE, BEAUTIFUL BUILDING FRONTAGE, AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN I-30, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK OVER THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL RIGHT NOW WOULD DRAW YOU IN. HOWEVER, A WASHETERIA A LAUNDROMAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT NORMALLY DRAWS PEOPLE IN. AND I THINK THAT WE'VE ALRDY STATED THAT ONCE THEY'RE IN, PROBABLY THAT'S GOING TO BE THE USE. AND IT DOES CONCERN ME THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DRAW AND ATTRACT A TYPE OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THAT AREA. AT THE SAME TIME. AGAIN, THE AREA IS TAKING ON ITS OWN COMPLEXION, AND I THINK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE, THERE IS A NEW HOTEL MOTEL BEING BUILT THERE, THE JACK IN THE BOX, THERE'S A CONVENIENCE STORE AND LOTS OF APARTMENTS, LOTS OF MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS AROUND IT. ACROSS THE STREET THERE IS THE WICKED WINGS. THERE'S THE STATION, THERE'S THE THE CAR WASH. IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS TAKING ON A LIFE THAT I CAN SEE THAT. OKAY, THIS MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ENVISION GARLAND, AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE I-30 CATALYST STUDY. BUT I DO SEE THAT THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. AND THIS LANDLORD, THIS OWNER HAS BEEN HOLDING. YOU MAY EVEN RECALL THEY CAME BEFORE US SEVERAL MONTHS BACK WHERE WE ACTUALLY DID NOT APPROVE OF A WASHETERIA THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT THEIR. AND SO AS I LOOK AT IT, I CAN SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR A VENDOR OR WAIT FOR A BUSINESS TO COME IN. THAT MIGHT BE MORE APROPOS. OR I CAN GO AHEAD AND ASK COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS, SUCH THAT THIS LANDLORD CAN BEGIN TO FILL IT UP. BECAUSE ONE THING ABOUT IT, IF IT'S NOT PEOPLE IN THERE, HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT OTHER BUSINESSES EITHER. SO I'VE SAID ALL THAT JUST TO SAY TO YOU THAT WE HAVE TRULY STRUGGLED WITH MAKING A DECISION ON HOW WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL AT THIS POINT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, MAKE A MOTION. I AM GOING TO ASK IF

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THERE'S ANY OTHER SPEAKERS FIRST. WE GET THERE, SIR, AND WE HAVE A FEW MORE IN THE QUEUE.

QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. WAIT ONE SECOND, COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON. SO IN THIS PHOTO WE CAN SEE THERE'S A DONUT SHOP, A NAIL SHOP, ONE OF THE RESPONSES ON THE ZONING REQUEST SAID THERE WAS A CASINO CONVENIENCE STORE. WHAT WHAT OTHER BUSINESSES DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR BUILDING? THIS IS MR. NAJAFI OWNS THE BUILDING. THERE IS A CONVENIENCE STORE. ACTUAL C STORE. THERE IS NO CASINO THAT I KNOW OF. STORE IT. IT HAS A MEDICAL PLACE ON THE CORNER SALON COMING SOON AND A DONUT SHOP. AND THEN WHAT ELSE IS THERE? IS THE WELLNESS. AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN VACANT. THINK OF. SO THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. OF COURSE, THE IDENTICAL TWO FACADES. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN FROM ROWAN ROAD. SO IT DOES GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE HIGHWAY IMAGE. AND REALLY EVERYONE'S ACCESSING FROM THE HOUSING AREA. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. I MEAN, IF YOU GO ON GOOGLE AND YOU TRY TO DO LIKE THE GOOGLE IMAGE, IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE IT'S FOUR YEARS OLD. SO. I THINK THAT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE KIND OF KEEP IN MIND WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY SETTING THE TONE. THE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT DOOR BEHIND THIS IS A DOLLAR GENERAL.

SO THEN YOU'VE GOT DONUTS AND NAIL SPA. NAIL SALON. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE CLOSEST LAUNDROMAT TO THIS LOCATION WOULD BE? YEAH, TOWARDS BELTLINE. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. I THINK THE I'M NOT A FAN OF LAUNDROMATS. NO MATTER WHAT'S IN THEM. I THINK THE ONLY REASON THAT THIS MAKES SENSE IS BECAUSE IT'S SURROUNDED BY MULTIFAMILY. THAT.

MAKES IT BETTER, I GUESS. DO YOU HAVE OTHER LAUNDROMATS? DO YOU OPERATE? THIS IS YOUR FIRST ONE WE HAVE IN FLORIDA. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST. HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE IN FLORIDA? TWO.

WHAT'S NEXT DOOR TO THEM? WELL, TWO OF THEM ARE NOT RELEVANT TO THIS CASE, BUT THEY ARE FREESTANDING BUILDINGS. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, FOR AN AREA THAT HAS SO MANY MULTIFAMILY UNITS, IT DOES MAKE SENSE, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THAT MOST APARTMENTS HAVE THEIR OWN UNITS INSIDE.

BUT I GUESS, YEAH, THEY GO OUT. THEY DO. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING SO MUCH, THEY COME IN AND THEY DO ALL THEIR LAUNDRY ON ONE DAY. YOU KNOW, ONE TIME THEY'LL PUT IN 5 TO 10 UNITS AND GO. THEY DON'T STAY ALL DAY ON THEIR DAY OFF TO DO LAUNDRY. IT'S JUST KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY REASON THAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE MULTIFAMILIES THAT ARE SO CLOSE. OTHERWISE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, MAYOR.

WELL, WITH THIS LAUNDRY LAUNDROMAT, DO YOU EXPECT TO HAVE ANY OTHER ANCILLARY BUSINESSES WITH IT, LIKE CONVENIENCE ITEMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WILL BE LIKE. YOU MEAN LIKE THE SNACK AREA AND ITEMS PURCHASED FOR THE LAUNDRY? BEYOND TT, SOMETIMES YOU SEE THAT WITH WITH AGING LAUNDRY MATS WHERE THEY START TO LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR THEIR LOSS AND THEY AND PEOPLE START ADDING A LOT OF THINGS IN THERE TO TRY. AND IT'S REALLY EFFICIENT, VERY CLEAN LINE CENTER. I MEAN, I JUST I DON'T SEE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE RECEPTION AREA TYPE LOBBY SELLING A FEW ITEMS. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. IS IT POSSIBLE TO RESTRICT? AN SUV TO LAUNDRY AND LAUNDRY RELATED ITEMS? AS A SO WHAT ITEMS ARE YOU TRYING TO RESTRICT, LIKE RETAIL ITEMS? TRYING TO MAKE IT WHERE YOU DON'T, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A THRIFT STORE SUDDENLY WITHIN IT, OR A OR A CONVENIENCE STORE.

THAT OR A TOBACCO AND A VAPE SHOP THAT SUDDENLY POPS UP INSIDE OF A LAUNDROMAT DOWN THE

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ROAD. Y CAN, BECAUSE IT'S AN SUV. YOU HAVE SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT YOU WHAT ACTIVITIES YOU ALLOW ON, ON THE ACTUAL LOCATION. SO YOU COULD CERTAINLY PUT IN A CONDITION OF EXPERTISE WITH RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT CAN BE SOLD. OKAY. AND THAT COULD BE COULD THE LANGUAGE BE DETERMINED AFTER OUR SUV? WHAT I'M THINKING IS IF WE IF THIS IS TO GO FORWARD, A RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE TO HAVE IT RESTRICTED TO. YES, THEY NEED TO SELL SOAPS AND TOWELS AND ALL THE TYPICAL THINGS THAT COUNCIL GIVES ME DIRECTION. IT COMES BACK A SECOND TIME BECAUSE IT'S A ZONING CASE. FOR THE SECOND TIME IN TWO WEEKS.

BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, I CAN AMEND THE LANGUAGE TO REFLECT WHAT THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE. OKAY, WELL, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR TO PROTECT THIS FROM FUTURE CHANGES, THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AGREEABLE. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I NEED TO PUNCH IN AGAIN, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. OKAY. THAT DISCUSSION THAT YOU ALL HAD WAS KIND OF BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU. CAN YOU GIVE ME WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE DOING THERE? COUNCILMAN OTT REQUESTED THAT HE WOULD RECOMMEND AND ASK THAT THE COUNCIL ADD A PROVISION IN THE CP, A RESTRICTION THAT CP THAT IT'S NOT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE BUSINESS OWNER, CANNOT SELL RETAIL GOODS EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT ARE ACCESSORY TO THE LAUNDRY BUSINESS. THERE ARE PRECEDENTS. IN OTHER WORDS, HAVE WE SEEN THIS HAPPENING SOMEPLACE THAT WE NEED TO IMPOSE THAT TYPE OF RESTRICTION ON THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS? GO TO SOME OF THE AGING LAUNDROMATS I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TODAY. I'M CERTAIN FROM MY PLANNING COMMISSION DAYS, WE ARE WE ARE GIVING A CP THAT GOES WITH THE LAND, NOT WITH THE OPERATOR. AND SO IF THEY SELL THIS BUSINESS IN THREE YEARS AND SOMEONE COMES IN THERE AND DECIDES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY VAPE SHOP AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY. YEAH, RIGHT. I CAN SEE THAT I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TYPE OF USE. BUT AGAIN, I JUST I'M THINKING ABOUT OTHER BUSINESSES, OTHER AREAS. IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN TO ESTABLISH AS A PRECEDENT FOR WASHETERIA? FROM MYSELF, YES. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. WE HAVE TWO. ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER, STEPHEN J. SMITH? GOOD EVENING. STEPHEN JOHN SMITH. 5525 LIONS ROAD, ARLINGTON, TEXAS. THANKS FOR Y'ALL'S SERVICE. I'VE BEEN IN GARLAND FOR 46 YEARS AND I'VE LOVED IT.

RAISED MY FAMILY HERE AND MY BOY WENT TO SCHOOL HERE AND NOW HE'S OFF TO MEDICAL STUFF. BUT TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE I-30 CORRIDOR. I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. ABOUT 6.3 ACRES OF IT ABOUT 27 YEARS AGO. OKAY. AND I'VE WATCHED US TURN DOWN USES FOR THAT LONG.

FOR 30 YEARS I'VE SEEN IT. WE WANT IT. PAPPADEAUX. THEY DIDN'T COME. WE WANTED OTHER SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS. NONE OF THEM CAME, WERE OUTSIDE OF THEIR SERVICE AREA, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEM. WE HAVEN'T GOT THEM AND THEY'RE NOT COMING. SO WHAT I'VE HAD OUT THERE IS JUST EMPTY LAND. SOME OF THE CHEAPEST FREEWAY LAND AND ALL OF DALLAS FORT WORTH STILL THERE TODAY, SOME OF IT EMPTY. AND I GOT A NEIGHBOR THAT BUILT A NICE BUILDING RIGHT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, ABOUT 70% EMPTY, I THINK. BUT HE'S HANGING IN THERE AND IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A NEIGHBOR SERVICE BUILDING. THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR, FOR SERVICES THAT WE NEED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE'VE APPROVED. NOW I'VE GOT THREE GAS STATIONS. I ONLY NEED ONE, BUT I GOT THREE, WHICH IS GOOD COMPETITION. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CYNICAL. I JUST IT'S JUST A SHOCKING TO ME THAT WE BUILT A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE AND WE

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BUILT APARTMENTS, WHICH ARE GREAT, BUT NOW WE HAVE A LAUNDROMAT AND IT'S A SERVICE THAT WE NEED OUT THERE. GUYS, I'VE BEEN THERE 27 YEARS AND WE HAVE TO COME WAY ALL ALONG IN THE BROADWAY OR WHATEVER TO GET ONE. AND EVEN WE HAVE WASHERS AND DRYERS, BUT SOME OF THEM, YOU WANT TO WASH YOUR BLANKETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OR YOU'RE IN A HURRY. YOU WANT TO DROP IT OFF AND GET IT FOLDED. AND I UNDERSTAND WE'D NOTHING. I'D LOVE. WE HAD EVERYTHING THAT WE WANTED THERE. AND WAY BACK BEFORE YOU GUYS WERE SITTING HERE, I THINK WE SPENT ABOUT $2 MILLION FOR THE BEST LAND USE IN THE I-30 CORRIDOR. AND AND THEY CAME UP WITH ALL THESE GREAT IDEAS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET. WE DID NOT GET IT. WE'VE SOLD IT OFF FOR $2 A SQUARE FOOT OVER THE YEARS. AND I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU BECAUSE I LOVE GARLAND AND I LOVE EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING. AND IF WE DON'T THINK IT WORKS, WALK THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND WALK THROUGH ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT THE LEADERSHIP OF GARLAND HAS DONE. IT'S AMAZING. IT'S AMAZING. BUT OUT IN THE I-30 CORRIDOR, IT'S BEEN THE LOST MAKING OUT THERE BECAUSE WE JUST KEEP HOLDING OFF FOR THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET. AND SO I'M JUST HOPING WE CAN VOTE, PUT A GOOD BUSINESS, PUT IT IN THERE, SERVE THE COMMUNITY. AND SOMEDAY WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS IT, THEY'LL COME TAKE IT. UNTIL THEN, IT'S SITTING EMPTY. AND BUT I WANT MOST OF ALL THANK YOU GUYS BECAUSE GARLAND HAS BEEN A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. I'VE BEEN HERE 46 YEARS. I'VE LOVED EVERY YEAR OF IT. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. THANK YOU. ONE SECOND. SIR, I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. THANK YOU FOR COMING UP TO SPEAK. YES. SO DO YOU THINK THAT THE BOND PROGRAM THAT WAS PASSED IN MAY 2025, WHERE WE WILL BE INFUSING OVER 3 MILLION. WHERE WE WILL BE INFUSING OVER $30 MILLION INTO THAT PARTICULAR AREA, DO YOU THINK THAT THAT MAY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE LAND IN THE FUTURE? SURE. AND THAT LAND STILL THERE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT AN EMPTY BUILDING, MR. MAYOR, I'M NOT SURE. I JUST CAN'T FIND THE CONNECT. I DID LISTEN, I REALLY TRIED TO FIND THE CONNECTION. I JUST CAN'T SEE THE CONNECTION IN THIS CASE. IN THAT PARTICULAR QUESTION.

RIGHT. I GUESS THE POINT IS, IF THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT THE QUALITY OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE GOING IN AS A LAUNDROMAT, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S HOPE OF BETTER IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF MONEY THAT MAY BE INFUSED INTO THE AREA? IS THAT BETTER? WELL, MA'AM, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE LAUNDROMAT. OKAY? SOME PEOPLE SAY GARLAND IS BLUE COLLAR AND I'M BLUE COLLAR. AND I PUT TWO DOCTORS THROUGH SCHOOL WORKING HARD. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH A LAUNDROMAT OR A PLACE THAT FIXES A CAR. AND SO WE'RE NOT FRISCO, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE. WE'RE GARLAND, TEXAS. WE ALL WORK HARD IN GARLAND, SO I DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH THE LAUNDROMAT. THAT'S A SERVICE WE USE, AND WE'VE HAD AN ABUNDANCE OF SOME CLOSING DOWN AND SOME OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE'RE CREATING OUT HERE VIBRANT LIVE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MORE UNITS COMING ONLINE, TOUCHING MY PROPERTY LINE THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED OVER NOW TO MULTIFAMILY. SO NOW WE HAVAVE MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE NEEDING THE SERVICE, SO I DON'T FIND IT DISTASTEFUL OR ANYTHING. I JUST THINK IT'S IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE THAT'S NEEDED. AND AND THAT CORNER, IF WE GO OUT THERE, THERE'S WE'VE DROPPED A LOT OF UNITS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS RIGHT THERE ON THAT CORNER AT BOBTOWN AND I-30. AND WE'RE DROPPING MORE, MORE MULTIFAMILY UNITS. SO THE CUSTOMER BASE IS THERE ALSO. BUT BUT I'M JUST MORE INTERESTED IN THAT. THERE'S A USE THAT'S NEEDED BUILDINGS EMPTY. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET WE'RE NOT GOING TO ATTRACT A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT IN AN IN-LINE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THERE. THTHEY WANT TO BE OUT FRONT. SO I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE PASS ON THESE OPPORTUNITIES, THEN WE'RE I'VE BEEN SEEING IT PASSED ON FOR ALMOST THREE DECADES, AND WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THE EMPTY LAND STILL THERE. BUT THEN WE HAVE AN INVESTOR THAT BUILT A BUILDING, AND NOW WE'RE LETTING HIM SUFFER BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T LIKE WHAT'S COMING. EVENTUALLY WE GOT TO TAKE IT.

IT'S JUST MY TAKE ON THE DEAL. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. YEAH, AND.

AND IF YOU DON'T THINK I BELIEVE IN IT, I BOUGHT IT, AND I LOVED, LOVED THAT I HAD IT,

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YOU KNOW, AND AND I'VE SEEN IT GROWING AND, AND I JUST APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP AND THE WHOLE THING IS ABOUT BALANCE AND CONTROL AND YOU KNOW, AND I, I JUST THINK OVERALL IF WE JUST WALK AROUND GARLAND, WE KNOW IT WORKS. AND SO WE'RE JUST TAKING THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, LOOKING AT THAT EMPTY BUILDING, JUST LIKE WE TOOK THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR THIS PARTICULAR OCCASION RIGHT IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT? THANK YOU SIR. YES, MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, GOOD EVENING SIR. YES, SIR. I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION.

YES. NO REPLY. DO YOU SUPPORT THE BUSINESS THAT HAS AN APPLICATION BEFORE US TONIGHT? YES OR NO? YES. THANK YOU. YES. RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, BERNARD SHAW? YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. MY NAME IS BERNARD SHAW, 3102 MAPLE AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS. I AM NOT RELATED TO THIS CASE WHATSOEVER. OUR CASE IS THE NEXT CASE 80. BUT I BUT I HEARD I HEARD THE COMMENTS AND THESE CASES ARE RELATED. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE RESPECT. AND HERE'S THE PERSPECTIVE. IF I CAN HELP. I WORK AS AN ASSET MANAGER WITH WEITZMAN AND WE BUILD SHOPPING CENTERS. WE'VE GOT FOUR IN THE CITY OF GARLAND. WE AS AN ASSET MANAGER, I'M RESPONSIBLE. I'M FIDUCIARY TO MAKE SURE THAT I GET THE SHOPPING CENTERS LEASED UP AND WITH THE RIGHT TENANTS, WITH THE RIGHT TENANT MIX. BEFORE I GOT THERE, I WAS A LITTLE BOY WHO GREW UP IN SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK. MY MOM LIVED IN A PROJECTS FOR 40 YEARS. WE DIDN'T HAVE A WASHER AND DRYER.

WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT, AND SHE COULDN'T AFFORD IT UNTIL PROBABLY 15 YEARS INTO THE OVER 40 YEARS THAT SHE LIVED IN THE PROJECTS. AND SO I'M HERE JUST TRYING TO ADVOCATE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LAUNDROMATS. I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE MOTHERS AND FATHERS, THE PARENTS WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT. AND I KNOW IN 2026 WE MIGHT THINK THAT THAT'S RIDICULOUS. WHY CAN'T YOU AFFORD A WASHER AND DRYER? YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT JUST BECAUSE THINGS ARE CHANGING. THE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD THE LOWER CLASS OR THINGS ARE WORSE. THEY'RE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. THEY'RE WORKING THREE AND FOUR JOBS JUST TO TRY TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY WASHERS AND DRYERS. AND SO A LAUNDROMAT BEING A CONVENIENCE FOR THEM IS IS IT'S I DON'T SEE WHY IT'S EVEN AN OBNOXIOUS USE. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S A NECESSITY. AND TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, IF I JUST FAST FORWARD TO WHAT I DO RIGHT NOW IN RETAIL, I MEAN, THE LIST OF RETAILERS IS SHRINKING DAILY. THERE'S A FINITE LIST, AND THE PROCESS OF FILLING UP SPACE IS REALLY BY SELF-SELECTION. IT'S AN ORGANIC PROCESS. WHAT? I DON'T KNOW THIS PROPERTY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW IF THEY COULD GET A PAPPADEAUX OVER THERE, IF THEY COULD GET SOMETHING THAT'S UPSCALE, THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT. THE MARKET DICTATES WHAT YOU CAN GET IN A LOT OF THESE ENVIRONMENTS. IT'S NOT YOU. I HAVE A WISH LIST OF THINGS THAT I WANTED. MY SHOPPING CENTERS AND I MANAGE OVER DONE OVER 3,000,000FT■S OF DEALS. I DON'T GET EVERY DEAL THAT I WANT. I GET THE DEALS THAT THE MARKET WOULD GIVE ME. TO USE A FOOTBALL ANALOGY, I HAVE TO SOMETIMES JUST TAKE WHAT THE DEFENSE GIVES ME. PERHAPS THE DEFENSE HAS ONLY GIVEN THEM A LARGER MAC FOR THIS SPACE. I HEARD METRICS THAT THIS THING HAS BEEN IT'S 70% VACANT, AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR 15 YEARS. GOD BLESS YOU. I MEAN, SERIOUSLY. GOD BLESS YOU. IN MY WORLD, THAT'S THEY'RE LOSING MONEY. THEY'RE LOSING MONEY. LAUNDROMATS ARE NOT OFFENSIVE. THEY HELP PEOPLE. AND I TELL YOU WHAT, WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT, IF IF THE MARKET DOESN'T WANT THE LAUNDROMAT, THEN THEY'LL GO OUT OF BUSINESS AND THEY'LL PUT SOMETHING ELSE IN IT. RIGHT. SO I'M I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM, BUT IT IMPACTS THE NEXT CASE TO. SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. SIR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. YES. YES, SIR. THANKS FOR COMING DOWN FROM DALLAS. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE FOUR SHOPPING CENTERS HERE. ENJOY.

ENJOY YOUR BACKGROUND. BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE BEFORE US TONIGHT, SIR. AND I HAVE ONE

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QUESTION FOR YOU. DO YOU SUPPORT OR DON'T YOU SUPPORT THE REQUEST THAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT? YES, I SUPPORT IT. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO HEAR. NO MORE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SIR, IF YOU'D SPEAK NOW OR AFTERWARDS, I ASK YOU TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD.

THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? YES. YOU STILL HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD. YES, SIR. AFTER. AFTER YOU SPEAK, PLEASE SPEAK FIRST. YEP. DAVID NAJAFI, 5482 TRAVIS DRIVE IN FRISCO. THEY BUILT THIS SHOPPING CENTER ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. THEY CHANGED THE ZONING ON US MANY, MANY TIMES.

DO YOU THINK WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR RESTAURANT IN THAT LOCATION WE HIRED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THREE DIFFERENT TOP REAL ESTATE COMPANY TO GET US TO SOME KIND OF RESTAURANT OVER THERE. WE COULDN'T GET IT. NOW WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE HER TO COME AND DO A COIN LAUNDRY. THIS COIN LAUNDRY IS GOING TO COST HER PROBABLY OVER 1 MILLION, 1.2 MILLION, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A STATE OF ART LAUNDRY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE CHEAPIE COIN LAUNDRY YOU SEE ON THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE ARE PAYING MORE THAN 6 MILLION. I MEAN, 660. WHAT IS THAT? WHAT, ALMOST $120,000 A YEAR TAXES ON THIS PROPERTY? EVERY TIME WE COME TO CITY, FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON, THEY REJECT US. LOOKS LIKE THEY DON'T WANT THAT PROPERTY TO BE OCCUPIED. SO NOW SHE'S HERE. YOU GIVE HER A HARD TIME ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY APARTMENTS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? ANYBODY ON STAFF KNOWS EXACTLY HOW MANY APARTMENTS ARE OUT THERE? DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM? THEY DO NOT HAVE WASHER AND DRYER IN THEIR APARTMENTS? NO. SHE HAS DONE A STUDY AND SHE'S GOING TO DO A COIN LAUNDRYANUFACTURE. THEY COME OUT THERE, THEY DO INVESTIGATION. THEY DO RESEARCH TO FIND OUT IF THAT BUSINESS IS GOING TO SURVIVE OR NOT. THEY HAVE DONE ALL THAT SO THEY KNOW WHAT IS THE CLOSEST COIN LAUNDRY TO THIS ONE. THEY KNOW IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 4 OR 5 MILES. SO THIS IS GOING TO SURVIVE THIS COIN LAUNDRY IS ONLY GOING TO SELL THE MERCHANDISE RELATED TO COIN LAUNDRY, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. ONE OF YOUR CITY COUNCIL WAS ASKING IF THEY WANT TO SELL SOME MERCHANDISE. WE DO HAVE A STORE IN THE SAME SHOPPING CENTER AND THEY HAVE COMPETING CLAUSE. SO IF THEY ARE SELLING SOME MERCHANDISE, THIS COIN LAUNDRY CANNOT SELL THE SAME THING. SO COIN LAUNDRY IS GOING TO REMAIN A COIN LAUNDRY. THERE HAS ANY QUESTION YOU CAN ASK ALL MAYOR PRO TEM. LOOK SIR, WHEN WAS THE BUILDING BUILT? I'VE HEARD 11, 15, FIVE. IT HAS A LONG HISTORY. WE STARTED IN 2014. IN 2017, THEY CHANGED THE ZONING ON US. AND THEY SAID BECAUSE WE STARTED GETTING THE PERMIT FOR RETAIL 2017, THEY SAID, OH, YOU CANNOT DO THAT. THEN SOMEBODY IN THE CITY SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T GO AHEAD AND DO SHOPPING CENTER. SO WE START BUILDING THE SHOPPING CENTER.

IT TOOK US ALMOST FOUR YEARS TO BUILD THE SHOPPING CENTER. THEN WE STARTED LISTENING TO SOME OF THE TENANTS. THE CITY CAME BACK TO US AND SAID, OH, THERE'S A MISTAKE HERE. THIS IS A COMMUNITY OFFICE YOU CANNOT DO. WE HAD SO MANY APPLICATIONS TO THE CITY. THEY REJECTED IT.

THEY SAID, YOUR ZONING IS COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY SERVICE. THEN THEY PUT US TO GO TO ANOTHER REZONING PROCESS THAT TOOK US ANOTHER 5 OR 6 MONTHS. SO THIS BUILDING BEEN SITTING THERE. WE ARE PAYING TAXES FOR NO GOOD REASON. THIS IS NOT A FRIENDLY CITY. WE DO PROJECT IN EVERY OTHER CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY. THEY WOULD HELP US HERE EVERY TIME WE CAME TO THE CITY, THE ONLY PERSON HELP US SO FAR IS MR. MOORE. EVERYBODY ELSE HAS REJECTED US FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON. THAT'S ALL I'M AFRAID TO ASK. WHAT YEAR WAS THE BUILDING COMPLETED?

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2022, I GUESS 2021. SO FIVE YEARS AGO. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. SIR.

HERE. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN TONIGHT AND GIVING US THAT HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF THIS, THIS PROPERTY. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION TO ASK YOU. THE QUESTION, THE ISSUE THAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE. DO YOU SUPPORT, OF COURSE, THAT THAT THE MATTER BEFORE US TONIGHT? OF COURSE WE HAVE SUPPORT. YES. YOU DO. YES. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO ASK. THANK YOU. I SEE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. SIR, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, SIR, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE HISTORY THAT YOU HAVE JUST HEARD IS VERY ACCURATE, AND I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH THEM THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. AND WE'VE WATCHED THIS PROPERTY TIME AND AGAIN COME BEFORE US. AND YES, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANGES AND A LOT OF HURDLES. HE'S HAD TO OVERCOME. FOR SOME REASON, THOUGH, HE KEEPS COMING BACK.

HE KEEPS STANDING AND COMING BACK. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, YOU SEE, BECAUSE I DO I DO THIS QUESTIONING OFTENTIMES BECAUSE I WANT OUR PUBLIC ALSO TO HEAR AND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON. WE HAVE STRATEGIC PLANS AND THESE STRATEGIC PLANS ENVISION GARLAND, THE I30 CORRIDOR CATALYST STUDY. ALL OF THESE STUDIES CAUSE US TO WANT TO BE PURPOSEFUL ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT BUILDING ZONING IN PARTICULAR AREAS SUCH THAT WE CAN GROW THE CITY. AND IN GROWING THE CITY, OF COURSE, THAT'S GOING TO, OF COURSE, IMPROVE OUR TAX BASE. IT'S GOING TO BRING BUSINESS TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION IS ONE WHERE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE ON I-30. AND BECAUSE THAT BUILDING IS SO BEAUTIFUL, YOU ARE KIND OF WHAT WE CALL A ENTRY POINT. YOU'RE A GATEWAY, AND WE WANT IT TO BE SUCH THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE IN OR WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY, IT'S A SITUATION OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO BE ATTRACTED TO IT. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I DID, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL WHEN THEY HEAR A WASHATERIA. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON I TRIED TO PREFACE IT IN THE MANNER OF WHICH I DID. BUT THAT'S ALSO THE REASON THAT I SAID TO YOU AND I SAY TO YOU AGAIN, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT TO APPROVE YOU BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH. I KNOW YOU'RE SITTING THERE WITH A VACANT BUILDING, AND I ALSO KNOW THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A WASHATERIA NOTHING WHATSOEVER. THAT BUILDING IS SUCH THAT MOST OF YOUR PEOPLE DON'T EVEN COME IN THROUGH THAT INTEREST. THEY COME IN THROUGH THE BACK ENTRANCE. AND SO IT WILL BE A NICE FACILITY. IT WILL BE A NICE BUSINESS. BUT THE OTHER THING ABOUT ALL OF THIS IS WE CAN CONTINUE TO TRY AND PUT THINGS IN THERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. BUT I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT IS THE BEST USE OF THE LAND. AND I DO BELIEVE A WASHATERIA WOULD GO WELL THERE. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE. THE PROJECT AS IT'S COME BEFORE US WITH A TEN YEAR SUB MOTION TO APPROVE WITH A TEN YEAR SUPPLY AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER BASS. IS THAT CORRECT? SIR? WE HAVE A FEW MEMBERS IN THE QUEUE TO DISCUSS. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OUGHT FOR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. MY DISCUSSION WAS JUST TO ASK IF THAT MOTION WOULD INCLUDE THE THE EXTRA PROVISIONS THAT I DISCUSSED EARLIER. THE APPLICANT DIDN'T HAVE ANY RESERVATION FOR IT. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE WANTS TO ASSURE, BUT YES, 705 AMENDMENT ACCEPTED.

ALL RIGHT. AND CAN YOU RESTATE THE AMENDMENT THEN PLEASE RESTATE THE AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE THAT WE THAT THE THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO, TO THE BUSINESS OF A COIN OPERATED LAUNDRY, BUT ALSO THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SELL

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WOULD BE THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS. IT WOULD BE EXCLUDING THINGS THAT I WAS MENTIONING BEFORE, BUT IT'S THE ONLY THINGS THEY CAN SELL IS THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE COIN OPERATED LAUNDRY. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, DO YOU ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT? I'LL ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT IF THE OWNER IS ACCEPTING IT, BUT I REALLY DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR IT. BUT YES, I'LL ACCEPT. ACCEPT. AND COUNCILMEMBER BASS, YOU'RE THE SECOND TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT. I DO NOT KNOW THAT IT'S PRESENTED. IT'S TOO SPECIFIC.

HE'S IT DOESN'T TAKE CERTAIN THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION THAT ARE A COMMON PART OF THE BUSINESS, NOT RELATED TO COIN OPERATED LAUNDRY, SUCH AS THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FLUFF AND FOLD SERVICE. SO NO, I DON'T SECOND IT AS PRESENTED BY COUNCILMEMBER. THAT IS NOT SECONDED. WE WE'RE PAST DISCUSSION OR I'M SORRY SIR I'M SORRY WE'RE PAST DISCUSSION.

YEAH. WE'VE ALREADY PASSED THAT PART OF IT. I'M SORRY I ASKED FOR SPEAKERS SEVERAL TIMES.

THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. SIR, YOUR REQUEST TO SPEAK ON T THE MOTION. NO, I WAS I MEAN, I SUPPORT THAT THE MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMEMBER, COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN, I DON'T SUPPORT. ONE SECOND, SIR. SPEAK. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, I'D LIKE TO PUT MY MOTION TO A VOTE. I HAVE A MOTION. IS THAT A MOTION FOR AN AMENDMENT? YES, I HAVE A MOTION FOR AMENDMENT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION FOR AMENDMENT? A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. WE'LL TAKE THAT ITEM FIRST. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE PREPARE A VOTE FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION? AMENDMENT FAILS 5 TO 4. SO WE'LL PICK UP THE ORIGINAL MOTION. THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CIP FOR A TEN YEAR TIME PERIOD. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE ON THAT ITEM? OKAY. IT TAKES A MOMENT WHEN WE'RE GETTING A COUPLE LEVELS DEEP THERE. AND THAT ITEM PASSES 7 TO 2 WITH MAYOR PRO TEM LUK AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU

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