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WELCOME TO THE FEBRUARY 9TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE CITY OF GARLAND'S PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS CUSTOM TRADITION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BEGIN WITH, A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE BY ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS, AND THEREAFTER TO RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PRIOR TO THE START OF ALL OF OUR MEETINGS, ALL MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PRAYER, PRAYER AND PLEDGE. HOWEVER, YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE. WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOUR DECISION IS STRICTLY A MATTER OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE, AND IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE DECISIONS MADE BEFORE THE COURSE OF THE MEETING OF THE COMMISSION. EXCUSE ME. NEVER HAS AND NEVER WILL. CAN YOU PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS AND ASSUME AN ATTITUDE OF PRAYER? GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AS A PENITENT PEOPLE IN THE HUSTLE AND HURRY OF OUR DAY.
WE KNOW THAT YOU WOULD HAVE US MINDFUL O OF THE JOY, THE MERCY, AND THE GOODNESS THAT SURROUND US. CONTINUE TO WALK WITH US AND TO CARRY US WHEN NEEDED. PLEASE BE WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO ARE SUFFERING, ALONE AND AFRAID. WE PRAY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, FOR OUR TEACHERS, FOR THE FAMILIES AND THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP OUR CITY AND FOR THE CITY STAFF THAT ADMINISTERS FOR THEIR WELL-BEING. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. NOW JOIN WITH US AS WE RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. NOW, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE'VE GOT A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS TO OUR APPLICANTS AND TO ANY OTHER SPEAKERS. ALL APPLICANTS ARE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE, AND OTHER SPEAKERS, SUPPORTERS OR THOSE IN OPPOSITION WILL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, PLEASE MAKE CERTAIN TO SIGN AT THE KIOSK IN THE LOBBY OR COME DOWN AND GRAB A SPEAKER CARD FROM THE CITY SECRETARY TO MY LEFT. YOUR RIGHT. AFTER ALL, SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THE APPLICANT WILL THEREAFTER BE PROVIDED WITH A FINAL OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO ALL THE COMMENTS. PLEASE, IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO COME DOWN TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE PROVIDE THE CITY SECRETARY WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. NOW ON TO OUR
[a. January 12, 2026 Plan Commission Minutes]
AGENDA. OUR FIRST MATTER IS AN ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. THAT IS ONE A JANUARY 12TH, 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE MINUTES? SEEING NONE. I'VE GOT A MOTION. COMMISSIONER. PARIS. JANUARY 12TH, 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. ALL RIGHT, SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. THAT PASSES[a. Z 25-39 Lala Guseynova (District 4)]
UNANIMOUSLY, 7 TO 0. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS FIRST ZONING ITEM, ITEM TWO, A FILE Z 2539. CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF LALA NOVA, AND FORGIVE ME IF I MISPRONOUNCE THAT REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION OR CEP PERMITTING A DAYCARE CENTER, ADULT USE AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR DAYCARE CENTER ADULT USE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 705 EAST OAKS ROAD IN DISTRICT FOUR. IN THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT STAFF PRESENTATION. LOOKS LIKE THERE IS. GOOD EVENING SIR. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. STUART STARRY, PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A ADULT DAYCARE CENTER. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, LOCATED ON 705 EAST OATES ROAD, IS 0.55 ACRES AND IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT. THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH ARE ALL ZONED SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN DISTRICT AND ARE DEVELOPED A SINGLE FAMILY. RESIDENTIAL USES. WHILE THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND IS DEVELOPED WITH AN EXISTING CHURCH, THE PROPOSED USE WOULD PROVIDE AN ACCESSIBLE SERVICE TO THE NEARBY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBHOODS, AND IS CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES. WITHIN A MILE RADIUS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THERE IS ONLY ONE OTHER ADULT DAYCARE CENTER NAMED MELROSE CENTER. THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION, WHICH[00:05:04]
CALLS FOR LOW INTENSITY CONVENIENCE SERVICES THAT SUPPORT THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS NEED. HERE WE GOT SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE TAKEN FROM OATES ROAD ON BOTH ENDS OF THE LOT. AND HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN ILLUSTRATING THE EXISTING SITE IMPROVEMENTS.THE PROPERTY MEETS THE REQUIRED PARKING STANDARDS AND INCLUDES BOTH A DESIGNATED DROP OFF AREA AND FENCED OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL AREA. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GDC REQUIREMENTS FOR AN ADULT DAYCARE, A SCREENING DEVICE WILL BE REQUIRED ALONG ANY PROPERTY LINES THAT ABUT A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, AND HERE IN THE CONCEPT PLAN, IT IS SHOWN IN RED WHERE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A TIME PERIOD OF EIGHT YEARS FOR THEIR SUP, WHILE STAFF RECOMMENDS A RANGE BETWEEN 5 TO 8 YEARS. THE SITE MEETS ALL REQUIRED STANDARDS FOR ADULT DAYCARE CENTER AND PROVIDES ADEQUATE ONSITE PARKING TO SUPPORT THE USE. THE FACILITY WOULD SERVE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS VISION FOR COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC USE PROVISION REQUEST.
WE SENT OUT 80 LETTERS AND WE GOT ONE IN FAVOR WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND TWO AGAINST, AND THEN WE GOT ANOTHER TWO AGAINST OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE. THANK YOU. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS I STEWART THANK YOU. YOU Y'ALL INDICATED THAT THERE WAS PLENTY OF PARKING AVAILABLE. IT'S LIKE HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE AVAILABLE NOW? DO YOU KNOW I MEAN, YEAH, THE APPLICANTS SUBMITTED A PARKING CALCULATIONS AND THEY SHOWED THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH CURRENTLY. AND THERE'S CURRENTLY 15 ON SITE. THERE'S 15 SPOTS ON SITE.
OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. I'M SORRY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IS IT ARE ANY OF THE SPACES FOR VANS? IS IT VAN ACCESSIBLE FOR ANY OF THOSE. SO ALL OF THE PARKING SPACES ARE ARE STANDARD DIMENSIONS. BUT THEY DO HAVE THE DROP OFF LANE WHERE A VAN CAN STOP AND DROP OFF SAFELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. THANK YOU SIR. ON THE OBJECTIONS OR THE RESPONSES, CAN YOU KIND OF SUMMARIZE THOSE WERE WHAT THOSE NEGATIVE RESPONSES WERE? YEAH, THERE WAS A FEW DIFFERENT ONES. SO THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS EXPLAINING THAT THERE ARE OTHER. ADULT DAYCARES IN THE AREA. I DID DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH THERE, AND I ONLY FOUND ONE ONE WITHIN A MILE RANGE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THEN THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS SAYING THAT THE BUSINESS WAS ALREADY OPERATING. I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THAT. AND THEN THERE WAS ONE TALKING ABOUT NEIGHBORS LEAVING TRASH AND USING THEIR PARKING SPOTS. I DON'T REALLY HAVE MORE COMMENTARY ON THAT ONE. THOSE WERE OUTSIDE THE AREA. THOSE THOSE COMMENTS, I BELIEVE. ONE OF THESE WAS A OUTSIDE AND THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS OUTSIDE DIDN'T LEAVE A COMMENT. THEY JUST SAID THEY WERE AGAINST IT.
THANK YOU THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED THAT SOMEONE HAD MADE MENTION OF THERE BEING MORE THAN ENOUGH DAYCARE CENTERS. AND SO YOUR ANALYSIS TELLS US THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE WITHIN A MILE. YEAH, I WAS ONLY ABLE TO FIND ONE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITHIN A MILE RADIUS FOR AN ADULT DAYCARE CENTER. I DID DRIVE DOWN AND LOOK AT THE LOOK AT THE FACILITY. IT'S A VERY BEAUTIFUL SETUP, AND IF I WERE USING A FACILITY, I THINK I'D CONSIDER THAT ONE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER PARIS, THANKS AGAIN FOR TAKING US THROUGH THIS CASE FOR TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO JUST FOLLOW UP AND IF YOU CAN SHARE ON, I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. IF YOU COULD JUST SHARE AGAIN WHERE THOSE PARKING
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SPOTS ARE. I PASSED BY THIS ALL THE TIME. SO IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY, BUT THE 15 CAR PARKING SPACES KIND OF GRAB MY ATTENTION. SO I THINK I SEE THE SEE WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED HERE ON THE MAP. IT WAS JUST THE I GUESS THE OTHER FOUR IS COVERED IN THE BACK. IS THAT WHERE THEY ARE? RIGHT? SO THERE IS. LET ME SEE IF I CAN DRAW. YEAH, ONLY JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN I PASS BY IT'S A PRETTY TIGHT. SO THERE'S SOME PARKING SPACES HERE. I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY.I THINK IT'S LIKE SIX. YEAH, I CAN SEE IT IN A GRAY AREA. AND THEN THERE'S SOME ALONG I WAS LOOKING FOR THOSE OTHER FOR THOSE THE 11. AND THEN THERE'S FOUR INDOOR SPACES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR WALKING ME THROUGH THAT. THAT MAKES BETTER SENSE FOR ME OKAY I SEE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU SIR. IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? YES THEY ARE. AND DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME DOWN? COME ON DOWN. WELCOME. AND AS SOON AS THE OPPORTUNITY. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. FOR THE RECORD. YES. 705 EAST OATES GARLAND 750 43 I'M SORRY I LOST MY VOICE AND WRONG TIME. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ONLY ONE CHANGE I WANT TO MAKE. MELROSE. IT'S NOT AN ADULT DAYCARE, MELROSE. IT'S DAY HABILITATION, CENTER DIFFERCE. I'M A NURSE, AND I ALSO WORK WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. POPULATION DIFFERENCE IS ADULT DAYCARE WORKS STRICTLY WITH 65 AND UP DAY HABILITATION, WHICH IT'S MELROSE. THEY WORK WITH ANYBODY 18 AND UP WITH MENTAL DISABILITIES. SO US AND MELROSE WOULD NOT COMPETITORS AT ALL. YES, WE'RE DOWN THE STREET. I KNOW THE OWNER. ONLY ONE ADULT DAYCARE WHO OPERATES EXACTLY LIKE US. IT'S TRIPLE A RIGHT HERE ON WALNUT. WE HAVE A ADULT DAYCARE. I THINK IT'S DISTRICT EIGHT FOR 20 YEARS AT 2222 DEER MEADOW. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, WE CLOSED THE BUILDING BECAUSE ANOTHER CO-OWNER HAVE A PHYSICAL PROBLEMS. SO WHEN WE CLOSE THAT BUILDING, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY WHO DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN SOCIALIZE, DISCUSS THEIR HEALTH PROBLEMS WITH THE NURSE, HAVE A FRIENDS SO MANY OF THEM END UP IN ASSISTED LIVING, WHICH IS VERY SAD BECAUSE ONCE YOU GO TO ASSISTED LIVING, NEXT STEP IS NURSING HOME. IT'S BAD FOR THE STATE, BAD FOR THE ECONOMY. AND ALSO IT'S VERY SAD FOR THOSE WHO STILL LIVE INDEPENDENTLY. SO ALL OF OUR CLIENTS, THEY DON'T HAVE ALZHEIMER, THEY DON'T HAVE DEMENTIA MEANS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME OUT AND RUN. EVEN THOUGH WE PUT THE GATES JUST FOR FOR US TO FEEL SAFE ABOUT OUR CLIENTS. BUT THEY NOT ON THAT MENTAL STAGE WHERE THEY HAVE TO BE SUPERVISED ALL THE TIME, WHICH THEY WILL ANYWAY. SO THAT'S ONE. NUMBER TWO, WHOEVER WAS TELLING THAT WE ARE OPERATING, WE ARE NOT. I HAVE SO MUCH FREE TIME ON MY HANDS, I GUESS. YES, I HAVE A GOOGLE LISTING ALREADY. I DO HAVE INSTAGRAM. I HAVE A FACEBOOK JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE CLIENTS FROM OUR OLD BUSINESS. SO WHAT I DO, I ADVERTISE, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY NOT SERVING THEM.
FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE A PERMIT FROM YOU GUYS. SECOND OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE A PERMIT WITH STATE YET BECAUSE OUR PROGRAM IS FULLY PAID BY TEXAS MEDICAID. SO IT'S FOR THOSE WHO IS 65 AND OLDER WITH LOW INCOME. SO YES, WE CANNOT OPERATE EVEN IF I WANT TO, BUT YES, I ADVERTISE IN ADVANCE. YES. IF YOU LOOK US UP, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE A GOOGLE LISTING, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DON'T WE'VE GOT A COUPLE
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QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER DALTON. THIS IS MORE FOR STAFF. SHE SAID THIS IS NOT AN ADULT DAYCARE. IT'S A DIFFERENT OCCUPANCY. IS THIS AFFECT THE CASE BEFORE US? NO. WHAT SHE WAS MENTIONING THE ONLY OTHER EXAMPLE THAT STAFF SAID THAT WE FOUND WITHIN A MILE RADIUS WAS THE OTHER ADULT DAYCARE, PER OUR DEFINITION, PER OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, IT IS AN ADULT DAYCARE. THE APPLICANT WAS CLARIFYING WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN OPERATION BETWEEN THEIR PROPOSED USE AND THE OTHER USE THAT STAFF FOUND WITHIN A MILE RADIUS. SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY AN ADULT DAYCARE, BUT IT'S OKAY FOR US. WE'RE FINE WITH WHAT SHE'S SAYING. IT'S NOT A OVER 65. SHE'S NOT.WHEN SHE'S SAYING IT'S NOT AN ADULT DAYCARE, SHE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSED USE.
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER EXAMPLE THAT SHE FOUND. RIGHT. BUT WE ARE 65. YOU ARE 65 AND UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ARE IN ALSO TEXAS MEDICAID PAY US WILL PAY OUR COMPANY FOR THE HABILITATION CENTER. IT'S DIFFERENT DIFFERENT STRUCTURE. SO WE'RE NOT UNDER THE SAME.
THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION I FORGOT I'M SO SORRY ABOUT PARKING SITUATION. WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN EVENTS. WE ARE PLANNING TO HIRE A CONTRACTORS WHO HAVE VANS AND BUSSES. SO THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO CLIENTS HOME, PICK THEM UP, THEY DROP OUR CLIENTS AND THEY LEAVE UNTIL IT'S TIME FOR CLIENTS TO GO HOME. SO YES, WE MIGHT HAVE A ONE VAN MINIVAN JUST IN CASE WE TAKE THEM TO THE STORE OR IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY. BUT WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO HAVE MORE THAN PROBABLY 5 OR 6 CARS A DAY. AND A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE THAT WE HAVE THERE. IT'S EITHER FOR FULL INSIDE GARAGE, SO MAYBE YOU WON'T EVEN SEE ANY CARS BECAUSE WE HAVE A GARAGE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NONE, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR COMING DOWN. BUT WE MAY MAY HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS. IF WE DO, WE WILL CALL FOR YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. WE DO HAVE ONE MORE. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. WATCHING IN FOR HOURS. WHAT IS YOUR NORMAL HOURS GOING TO BE FOR THAT FACILITY? IT WILL BE. I'M THINKING IT WILL BE 8 TO 3, BUT IT WILL BE PER STATE. SO IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST SIX HOURS FOR CLIENTS TO ATTEND US. AND THEN WE'LL JUST SEE HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE US TO CLEAN UP AFTER THEM. SO I WANT TO SAY NOT MORE THAN SEVEN HOURS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. MA'AM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. HOW SOON DO YOU ALL INTEND TO OPEN? AS SOON AS WE HAVE ALLIANCES, WHICH MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS. HAVE WE ALREADY APPLIED FOR THE LICENSE? WE'RE JUST WAITING. FOR ALLIANCES BACK IN. DECEMBER. OKAY, OKAY. AND THE OTHER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THE PORTION THAT'S NOTTN SCOPE FOR TONIGHT'S HEARING, IS THAT CURRENTLY IN USE AS WELL? NO. OKAY. SO THE ENTIRE THING IS EMPTY NOW. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY ANY SPEAKERS IN THE PUBLIC THAT LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. PLEASE. WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HAVE A MOMENT, YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. HI. MY FIRST NAME IS HANIF. LAST NAME IS NANCY. I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER AND I ALSO OWN THE LOT BEHIND IT. SO THE THING IS THAT I WAS VERY COGNIZANT THAT SOMEDAY WE WOULD USE THIS FACILITY FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES. SO WHEN I GOT MY ZONING AND EVERYTHING DONE, I WAS IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AND I SAID, I AM GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I MAKE THIS ALL WITH 36 INCH WIDE DOORS AND MAKE IT VERY COMPLIANT. SO WHOEVER COMES AFTER ME WILL BASICALLY HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. WE'LL HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL COMPOUND. AND I WAS ALWAYS THINKING IN MIND OF OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, AND I AM GOING TO BE ONE THIS SEPTEMBER. SO I HAD KEPT THAT IN MIND. AND I ASSURE YOU, IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THAT
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NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY IN THE NIGHT TIME, YOU WILL FIND BEAUTIFUL JAPANESE TORII GATES, BEAUTIFUL JAPANESE GAZEBOS. THERE IS NO WATER, BUT YOU'LL FIND JAPANESE BRIDGES, RED ONES, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD MAKE THIS A PERFECT PLACE FOR OUR SENIOR CITIZENS TO BE A PART OF AND GET THEIR DAYCARE SERVICES. I JUST THOUGHT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT THIS IS MY CITY, MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I INTEND TO KEEP IT VERY BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU EVERYBODY.THANK YOU SIR, CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU GIVE US AN ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD ADDRESS FOR THE PROPERTY? NO, YOUR ADDRESS IF BUSINESS ADDRESS OR PERSONAL. OH, I AM RETIRED. I'M A MACHINE DESIGN ENGINEER BY PROFESSION. I RETIRED FROM THAT AND I WAS BUILDING HOMES. I BUILT THIS ENTIRE COMPOUND FROM MY FAMILY. MY SON IS A NURSE, AND I WAS HOPING SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE, WHEN HE IS STRONG AND CAPABLE, HE COULD CONVERT THIS INTO A NURSING FACILITY OR AN ASSISTED LIVING OR SOMETHING. I HAD THAT IN MIND, AND THE WHOLE COMPOUND WAS MADE TO CATER TO OVER 65 PEOPLE. IF YOU EVER COME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PASS BY, YOU WILL BE VERY PLEASED WITH THE COMPOUND. IT'S ONE OF THE BEST COMPOUNDS YOU WILL SEE IN OUR CITY. AND I MADE SURE I BUILT IT AND I BUILT IT VERY NICELY TO LEAVE IT BEHIND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME AFTER ME. NO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN WE, FOR THE RECORD, HAVE YOUR ADDRESS AND ADDRESS, YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS OR YOUR PERSONAL HOME WAS 705 EAST OATES, WHICH THEY ARE GOING TO USE. I AM NOW LIVING BEHIND AT 703 EAST OATES ROAD, SO I LIVE IN THE SAME COMPOUND, BUT I'M IN THE BACK HOUSE AND I SHARED THE SAME SPACE WITH THEM, BUT THEY ARE A DIFFERENT PROPERTY PLATTED SEPARATELY. NOTHING TO DO WITH 703. I'M 703. THEY ARE 705 EAST OATES. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. THANK YOU. IS ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. UP TO YOU. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. IT SHOULD BE OKAY. GREAT. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NOT SEEING YOU. ALL RIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY, CAN YOU PREPARE THE VOTE, PLEASE? THAT IS A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE IN DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER.
COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS THE TIME PERIOD.
THE CONSIDERATION FROM STAFF IS FOR 5 TO 8 YEARS. DO WE HAVE TO SETTLE ON A SPECIFIC TIME? I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT IS STOPPING US FROM GOING AHEAD AND SAYING, OKAY, EIGHT YEARS? I MEAN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING EIGHT YEARS. IS THERE ANYTHING? NO, WE'RE JUST PROVIDING YOU A RANGE THAT YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY. BUT NO, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S STOPPING YOU FROM TO GO FROM GOING TO ALL THE WAY UP TO EIGHT OR TO REMAIN FIVE. SO YOU YOU COULD CHOOSE ACCORDINGLY. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH EIGHT. I'D LIKE TO HEAR IF ANYONE ELSE DOES. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD CREATE AN ISSUE. SO IF THERE ISN'T ONE, THEN I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. NO. OKAY, WELL, THAT WAS EASY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM TWO A AS PRESENTED BY STAFF WITH AN ICP OF WITHIN SCP OF EIGHT YEARS. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING AND HEARING? NONE. CITY SECRETARY, IT'S UP TO YOU. AND THAT IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE TIME FRAME OF EIGHT YEARS. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY
[b. Z 25-43 Watermill Express (District 8)]
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MUCH, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING IS ITEM TWO B FILE Z 2543.CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF WATERMILL EXPRESS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF ONE, AN SPECIAL USE PROVISION FOR KIOSK SELF-SERVICE RETAIL USE, AND TO A CONCEPT PLAN FOR KIOSK SELF-SERVICE RETAIL USE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 568 NORTH SHILOH ROAD IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
THE UERLYING ZONING IS WITHIN A PLAN. DEVELOPMENT PD 9305 STAFF MEETING, SIR. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THIS IS PLANNER WITH THE CITY PRESENTING CASE NUMBER 2543.
THE APPLICANT, WATERMILL EXPRESS, IS REQUESTING FOR A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A KIOSK, SELF-SERVICE RETAIL USE SPECIFICALLY FOR ICE AND WATER VENDING AND ALSO APPROVAL OF THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING WATER KIOSK. SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 568 NORTH SCHILLER ROAD AND IS ZONED CURRENTLY THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 9305 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL AND TRUCK RENTALS. THE ENTIRE SITE IS ABOUT 6.609 ACRES IN SIZE.
WOULD YOU MIND NAVIGATING FROM THAT COMPUTER SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE SLIDES? YEAH. AND SORRY, THE ENTIRE SITE IS ABOUT 6.69 ACRES AND IS A DEVELOPED COMMERCIAL PLAZA WITH MULTIPLE SERVICES, RESTAURANTS AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL ACTIVITIES. AND HERE IS THE ZONING SURROUNDING THE EXISTING SITE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ACROSS THE NORTH ROAD. IT'S THE SF SEVEN SINGLE HOME, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND ON THE RIGHT AND THE SOUTH ON THE EAST SIDE AND THE SOUTH. IT'S COMMUNITY RETAIL AGAIN. AND ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S COMMUNITY OFFICES, MOSTLY FOCUSING ON THE SERVICES. SERVICE USES. SO RIGHT NOW, AS I'VE TOLD YOU, THERE IS AN EXISTING WATER KIOSK ON THE SITE AND THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO REPLACE IT WITH THEIR UP TO DATE MODEL, AND THE NEW MODEL GOING TO HAVE THE SITE, THE BUILDING GOING TO HAVE AN AREA ABOUT 106FT■S. AND THIS THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PHOTOS. HOW THE THIS IS HOW THE EXISTING KIOSKS LOOK. AND THESE ARE THE CONCEPT ELEVATIONS THE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. AND THIS IS HOW THE THE NEW MODEL GOING TO LOOK. AND TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW KIOSK THE THE THE TWO PARKING SPACES IN RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE KIOSK WILL BE CONVERTED, WOULD BE USED, WOULD BE CONVERTED INTO A PARKING ISLAND ALONG WITH THE EXISTING TWO SPACES THAT ARE CURRENTLY USED WITH THE THAT ARE CURRENTLY USED BY THE KIOSK ALREADY. SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE LIKE 429 PARKING SPACES, WHEREAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE COMMERCIAL PLAZA IS LIKE 222 SPACES. SO THIS SO THIS USE DOESN'T GOING TO IMPACT ANY DOESN'T GOING TO RESULT IN ANY PARKING DEFICIENCIES. AND. AND ALSO THE APPLICANT IS IS PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THE NORTH ROAD. AND ALSO AS I MENTIONED YOU THE SMALL PARKING LOT WHICH GONNA BE FILLED WITH SHRUBS AND ALSO ORNAMENTAL TREES, MAINLY FOCUSING TO IMPROVE THE SITE AND TO BEAUTIFY THE PARKING LOT. AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE SUV FOR 30 YEARS, WHEREAS THE CITY POLICY GUIDE RECOMMENDS THE THIS SPECIFIC USE FOR 10 TO 15 YEARS ITSELF. AND YEAH, AND THIS THIS KIOSK HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 2004 AND IT HAS BEEN SERVING OVER 22 YEARS WITHOUT ANY ISSUES. AND DURING THAT TIME THIS THE CEO WAS ISSUED FOR THE USE NAMED WATER VENDING.
BUT WHEREAS WE COULDN'T FIND THE SPECIFIC USE DURING THE WITH WITHIN THE LIST OF USERS WITHIN THE GDC DURING THAT TIME. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE THE THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW WITH THE UP TO DATE CITY REGULATIONS. SO THIS THIS IS WHY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR THE SUP. SO CONSIDERING ALL THE ENHANCEMENTS AND THE SITE CONDITIONS AND EVERYTHING, THE FISCAL CONTEXT, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS,
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THIS SPECIFIC USE FOR 15 YEARS AND ALSO THE CONCEPT PLAN AS PRESENTED. AND HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. I HOPE IT ZOOMS IN. OKAY, SO THIS IS WHERE THE DEMARCATED AREA, THE THE THE EASTERN HALF OF THE EASTERN HALF OF IT IS WHERE THE APPLICANT GOING TO PLACE THE KIOSK. AND RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT, THEY THEY'RE GOING TO OCCUPY THOSE TWO PARKING SPACES TO PROVIDE, TO DEVELOP A, TO BUILD A SMALL PARKING ISLAND. AND THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING THE ORNAMENTAL TREES ALONG THE NORTH SHORE ROAD. AND AS I TOLD YOU, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF THIS SUB. AND WE, THE STAFF HAVE SENT ABOUT LIKE 124 NOTICES AND WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. THAT'S IT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH? YES SIR.THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO COVER IS THE. DID THE APPLICANT REQUEST OR TO PUT THE PLANTS IN, OR WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE REQUESTED OF THEM? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A PARKING LOT. YES. IT'S WE AS A STAFF HAVE RECOMMENDED THEM TO PROVIDE SOME ENHANCEMENT TO THE SITE TO MAKE IT MORE BEAUTIFUL, LIKE IT'S MORE LIKE A BEAUTIFICATION ENHANCEMENTS. SO YEAH. AND THEY THEY WERE WILLING THEY ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE THOSE LANDSCAPING. SO THE APPLICANT AGREEABLE WITH DOING THAT. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I HAVE ONE. THE DECISION TO ADD THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. IT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION. IT'S REALLY A COMMENT. GOOD JOB. THAT'S ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MH. IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME DOWN AND MAKE A PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS HALEY PRYOR. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF WATERMILL EXPRESS AND WE HAVE AN OFFICE AT 3616 CONFLANS ROAD IN IRVING, TEXAS. WE ARE HERE ASKING FOR THE SPECIAL USE APPROVAL AND OUR CONCEPT PLAN APPROVAL. AS YOU SAW, WE ARE REPLACING AN EXISTING WATER KIOSK WITH OUR NEW MODEL THAT BINDS WATER AND ICE. AS YOU MENTIONED. AS OUR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE MENTIONED, WE ARE NOT IMPACTING PARKING. WE ARE AGREEABLE TO ADDING THE LANDSCAPING IN FRONT, AND WE WILL BE RESTRIPING PARKING ON EITHER SIDE OF THE NEW UNIT TO ALLOW EASY ACCESS FOR CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS MARKET FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARSWE HAVE 11 UNITS OPERATING IN GARLAND AND WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE NEW MODEL. IT IS VERY DURABLE, IT HOLDS UP WELL, IT LASTS A LONG TIME AND WE ARE READY TO RENEW OUR COMMITMENT TO GARLAND WITH THIS NEW UNIT. WITH YOUR APPROVAL QUESTIONS.'M SEEING NO QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. THANK YOU. IN THE PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE YOU REQUESTED A 30 YEAR SUPPLY AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING 15. IS IS THE 15 WORKABLE WITH WITH THE FACILITY? YES. IT IS. WILL WORK FOR YOU. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AS WELL. THE. YES THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS AS WELL. WHAT IS THE THE YOU MENTIONED. IT'S A DURABLE BUILDING. HOW LONG DO THESE BUILDINGS TYPICALLY LAST OR THEY CAN LAST UP TO 30 YEARS. SO IT'S A CONCRETE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE COLORED STUCCO ESSENTIALLY ON THE OUTSIDE OF IT. IT HOLDS UP VERY WELL. WE'VE BEEN MANUFACTURING THEM FOR I BELIEVE, 10 TO 15 YEARS, AND THEY HOLD UP MUCH LONGER THAN THAT CURRENT UNIT. AND WE'RE THE R REASON WE REQUESTED 30 YEARS IS BECAUSE WE CAN SEE OURSELVES THERE WITH THAT UNIT FOR 30 YEARS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. WOULD ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM THIS EVENING? I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO SPEAKERS, COMMISSIONER ABEL, I'VE GOT I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT A MOTION YOU'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT OUT THERE. HOLD ON. HOLD. IF YOU'RE TOO FAST. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS WITH A 20 YEAR'S U P, AS RECOMMENDED. I'VE GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. THAT'S A MOTION TO
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APPROVE, AS PRESENTED WITH AN SCP RECOMMENDATION OF A 20 YEAR TIME FRAME. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE SITE PLAN IS RIGHT AND THE CONCEPT PLAN AS WELL. THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? SEEING NO DISCUSSION. WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS
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EVENING IS ITEM TWO C FILE Z 2545. I CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF SPIRES ENGINEERING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH A ZONING OF MULTIFAMILY AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A DWELLING FOR MULTIFAMILY USE. GOOD EVENING SIR. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, SWITCHING THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING OF MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. THE NEW DISTRICT HAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO FOR CONVERTING AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING AND EXPANDING IT INTO A MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 2301 FOUR LANE. IT IS A 1.817 ACRE SITE THAT IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL CURRENTLY. HERE'S THE SITE LOCATED IN THE GENERAL AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S LARGELY AN INDUSTRIAL ZONED AREA, THOUGH I WILL SAY DIRECTLY TO THE WEST IS THE GARLAND POLICE PROPERTY BUILDING. TO THE NORTHWEST IS THE. GARLAND WATER BUILDING, I BELIEVE, AND THEN TO THE EAST, THAT LARGE BUILDING IN THE PD YOU CAN SEE AT THE EDGE OF THE MAP IS THE MASSIVE NEW GARLAND COURT AND POLICE OFFICE, I BELIEVE. AND THEN TO THE SOUTHWEST IS THE CRAFT MANUFACTURING BUILDING. SO WHILE IT IS ALL ZONED INDUSTRIAL, THERE ARE MANY MORE NON-INDUSTRIAL USES. THERE'S ACTUALLY A BANK DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS IT'S MARKED FOR BUSINESS CENTERS. NOW PLANNING DOES BELIEVE THAT IT MEETS THE CONCEPT PLAN OR COMP PLAN, AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO CALLS FOR UNDERUTILIZED BUILDINGS TO BE REPURPOSED INSTEAD OF DEMOLISHED. NOW, THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE 2019, AND THAT IS WHY IT IS A MORE OF A ABANDONED BUILDING CURRENTLY THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER UTILIZED, AND WE BELIEVE THAT MEETS THE DEFINITION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOUR PHOTOS OF THE SITE, THE FIRST BEING ON GOLD STREET OR THE FIRST TWO BEING ON GOLD STREET. AND HERE ARE THE SECOND TWO PHOTOS OF THE SITE, THE FIRST BEING OF THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF FROM FOREST LANE. YOU MAY NOTE THE FENCE AROUND IT AND SOME OF THE KNOCKED OUT WINDOWS. HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE TAKING THE NEW OR THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THEN ADDING ON A LARGE BUILDING AND PARKING STRUCTURE TO THE BACK AND TO THE SIDE. SO THE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING WITH THE PD IS TO CHANGE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FROM THE NEW ONE PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY UNIT REQUIREMENT TO THE NEW UPDATED THERE YOU CAN SEE 1.0 FOR EFFICIENCY, 1.4 FOR ONE BEDROOM AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS HAVING 1.9. IN THE OLD CODE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 1.0, 1.5 AND 2.0. THE OTHER TWO DEVIATIONS ARE FOR BUILDING DESIGN. CURRENTLY WE REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF TWO FOOT DEPTH HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION. THERE ARE REQUESTING TEN INCH ONLY ALONG FOREST LANE WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY THE EXISTING BUILDING, AS THEY BELIEVE IT WOULD BE CHALLENGING TO MEET THE TWO FOOT WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING. AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING BALCONIES AND OTHER MATERIALS AND COLOR VARIATION AS A WAY TO MAKE UP FOR THAT. THE FINAL VARIANCE WOULD BE THE BUILD TO LINE SETBACK. SO WE CURRENTLY REQUIRE 75% OF THE FACADE TO BE IN THE BUILD TO ZONE. THAT'S THE FIRST 30FT KIND OF OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. AGAIN, THEIR REQUEST IS FOR 0% ONLY ALONG THE FOREST LANE SIDE, AS THAT IS THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH IS MUCH FURTHER BACK THAN THE BUILD TO ZONE, AND WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO EXPAND THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY UP TO FOREST LANE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT BALCONIES, ADDITIONAL MATERIALS AND COLORS WOULD BE UTILIZED TO OFFSET THE REDUCTION OF THE HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION STANDARDS, WHICH WAS DISCUSSED HERE IN THE TABLE PREVIOUSLY. WE SENT OUT 85 LETTERS. WE RECEIVED SEVEN IN RESPONSE, THREE WERE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST AND[00:40:05]
FOUR WERE OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND AGAINST THE REQUEST. AS FOR THE COMMENTS, WE DID RECEIVE FOUR COMMENTS ON IT. ONE WAS OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND THREE WERE INSIDE, AND ALL FOUR DETAILED THEIR CONCERNS OF HAVING MULTIFAMILY HERE. DUE TO THE DANGER OF CHILDREN IN THE AREA WITH HIGH TRAFFIC AND INDUSTRIAL AREA AND INDUSTRIAL VEHICLES SUCH AS 18 WHEELERS GOING THROUGH. I AM OPEN TO ANY SIR. HERE THEY COME,HANK YOU COMMISSIONER DALTON. THANK YOU. DO YOU KNOW? WELL, LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY. IS ENGINEERING REVIEWED BASED UPON THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF UNITS AND THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THE CITY HAS IN THE GROUND IS CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING A MULTIFAMILY UNIT OF THIS SIZE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THEY WOULD HAVE NOT REVIEWED THOSE CALCULATIONS NOW. THEY DID REVIEW SO FAR PRELIMINARY KIND OF SITE PLAN AND DISCUSS WITH THEM. AND THE WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN FIT MEETING. THAT'S LIKE A PREDEVELOPMENT MEETING BEFORE ALL THIS. AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE GIVEN THEM NOTES AT LEAST ON THAT, ON WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO TO OFFSET ANY STORM WATER, WASTEWATER, ETCETERA. I COULD NOT TELL YOU WHAT ENGINEER'S EXACT COMMENTS WERE, BUT THEY DID DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ZONING AT LEAST. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE AND I KNOW THE AREA, BECAUSE WHERE I WORK IS AT THE END OF GOLD STREET. I DRIVE BY THIS BUILDING FREQUENTLY. I AM PLEASED TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE IT IS AN EYESORE AT THIS TIME. I NOTICED ON THE DRAWINGS IT SHOWS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD A PARKING GARAGE IN THE BACK AT THE FIRST LEVEL, AND I ASSUME THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD MULTI STOREY ON TOP OF THAT AS WELL. YES SIR. SO THEY'LL HAVE LIKE LIKE A GROUND LEVEL PARKING AND THEN PARKING ABOVE THAT. AND THEN THREE RESIDENTIAL STORIES ON TOP OF IT. AND THAT'S FOR THE NEW EXPANSION IS THE EXISTING BUILDING FIVE STORIES. THE EXISTING BUILDING IS FOUR STORIES. SO THIS WILL BE ACTUALLY ONE MORE. YEAH. SO IT'LL BE AND I DO HAVE ELEVATIONS THAT CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS THAT I CAN BRING UP AS WELL. IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO SWITCH FROM THE CONCEPT PLAN TO THAT. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT QUITE A FEW UNITS HERE ACTUALLY. SO THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO. AND YES, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE IN THE BACK. IT'S THEY CALL IT A PILLAR BUILDING. SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO KIND OF PARK UNDER IT. AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE ANOTHER PARKING LEVEL WITH THE THREE RESIDENTIAL LEVELS YOU CAN SEE HERE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S FOR THE NEW ADDITION. AND IT IS YOU CAN SEE THE ONE STORY TALLER THAN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. RIGHT. OKAY. SO PER THE APPLICANT'S WRITTEN NARRATIVE, THEY'RE PROPOSING AN APPROXIMATELY 105 UNITS FOR THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT. AND JUST ONE FINAL THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IS THAT THE APPLICANT DOES UNDERSTAND THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE NEW KIND OF REVISED MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT, AND THEY DO PLAN TO COMPLY WITH IT. RIGHT? OKAY. WELL, LIKE I SAY, I WAS KNOWING THE AREA AND THE POSSIBILITY OF INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS THE ONLY REAL CONCERN I HAD BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WILL GO IN. OKAY. YES, SIR. AND THAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE REVIEWED AND A POSSIBLE SITE PERMIT PROCESS IF THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH THANK YOU SIR. AND I VISITED ME TODAY. ELEVATORS IN THE BUILDING. WE CAN'T TELL FROM THESE DRAWINGS, BUT WHERE WILL THEY BE? DO YOU KNOW? YES. SO THE APPLICANT. I DID SPEAK WITH HIM AS WELL AS THE ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL AND OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT. ELEVATORS WILL BE REQUIRED FROM OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT. AND CURRENTLY, PER THE APPLICANTS MESSAGE TO ME, THEY WOULD HAVE THREE ELEVATORS IN THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THEN TWO WOULD BE IN THE NEW ADDITION, FIVE ELEVATORS. AND THAT IS THEIR CURRENT PLAN. ALSO IS IS THIS PERHAPS THE FIRST BUILDING UNDER THE EIGHT NEW 840 PROGRAM THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT? WELL, I WOULDN'T SAY THIS ONE APPLIES TO THE 840 PROGRAM NECESSARILY, AS THEY ARE CONVERTING FROM INDUSTRIAL, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW MULTIFAMILY. IS THE STATE BILL 840 ALLOWED CITIES THAT TO HAVE MORE INDUSTRIAL AREAS BE EXEMPT FROM THAT? YEAH. SO THEY THEY ARE IT IS SOMEWHAT IN THE[00:45:02]
SPIRIT OF THAT, BUT IT DOES NOT ACTUALLY APPLY TO STATE BILL 840. AND THEY ARE TRANSITIONING TO THE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. YEAH. HAVING SEEN THAT BUILDING BEING BUILT ORIGINALLY IN THE STATE IT'S IN NOW, I'M PROUD FORHIS APPLICANT TO BE BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I THINK IT'LL BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT. AND AND WE'LL LEND THE TAXES THAT WE NEED TO HELP OUR CITY MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU MATTHEW. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER PARIS, QUESTION ON THE SIGNAGE.IS THERE ANYTHING ON SIGNAGE FOR THIS? THE SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY DEVIATIONS FROM SIGNAGE. BUT IF THEY IN THE FUTURE, IF THEIR SIGNAGE DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE CODE, THEN THEY WOULD LIKELY COME BACK HERE FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I'VE GOT A COUPLE I SEE COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH HAS A MOTION ALREADY. THANK. THANK YOU. WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT TO. WE WANT TO HOLD. HOLD ON. ON. MADAM, I'M KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH THIS BECAUSE TO ME, IT'S LIKE A TRADITIONAL SORT OF LAND USE SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL AND THEN A AN INTENSE TRANSITION TO INDUSTRIAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ITEMS THAT ARE N THAT ARE BUT T THIS ARE ADJACENT TO AN AT IMMEDIATELY IN THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES. BUT THE AREA IS MOSTLY INDUSTRIAL. YES, SIR. I DIDN'T SEE THAT THEY HAD PROPOSED ANY, ANY SCREENING OR SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING OTHER THAN WHAT'S IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN? YES, SIR. SO THERE IS ACTUALLY NO SCREENING REQUIRED BY MULTIFAMILY IF THEY DO BUILD NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL THOUGH, AND I WILL LET THE APPLICANT OF COURSE ELABORATE ON THIS. BUT AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT, HE DID SAY THAT THEY PLAN TO SCREEN. SO LIKE A FENCE AND THE SIDE AND THE REAR. AND THEN I KNOW GATE GATING. THE PROPERTY WAS ALSO PROPOSED, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN A DECISION THAT'S BEEN FINALIZED. BUT THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF THE UPDATED THOUGHTS THEY MAY HAVE FOR SCREENING AND GATING THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU SIR. WE'LL ASK FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME UP. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING SIR. DAVID BOND WITH SPIRES ENGINEERING, 765 CUSTER ROAD IN PLANO HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF FOR SOME TIME AND ALSO DRIVING BY THE BUILDING FOR SOME TIME. THERE WE GO. OH, THE ONE WITH THE LIGHT THERE. WE ARE SO EXCITED TO HAVE THIS REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU. ALL. A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST BY WAY OF ANSWERING. MR. DALTON, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE SEWER. IT'S IT'S 105 UNITS, WHICH IS LESSER THAN OFTEN IN FRONT OF BODIES LIKE YOU ALL ASKING FOR. AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE ENOUGH CHECKS TO WHERE WE FEEL GOOD THAT THAT WORKS. IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A FAIRLY, FAIRLY LARGE SEWER LINE IN FOREST LANE RIGHT THERE THAT WILL BE CONNECTING TO TRANSPORTATION IS REVIEWED THIS AND WE DIDN'T TIP THE SCALE FOR WARRANTING A TIA. THEN THEY'RE SUFFICIENT STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE STREETS AS WELL. SO WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THOSE THINGS. AND I ACTUALLY CONVEYED THIS INCORRECTLY TO EXISTING ELEVATOR IN THEE BUILDING IN THE CURRENT OFFICE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE. WE'RE PROPOSING TWO MORE IN THE NEW TOWER, SO THEY'LL END UP BEING A TOTAL OF THREE ELEVATORS AT THE END OF THE DAY. THEN SCREENING WISE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, BUT A BUT MORE OF KIND OF AN OFFICE TYPE OF USE ON TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST. WE HAVE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY FINALIZED WHAT THE SCREENING PLAN WILL BE. WE LIKELY WILL BE SECURING THE SITE AROUND THE PERIMETER. YOU KNOW, THAT OFTEN LEADS ITSELF TO A WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITH SOME SHRUBBERY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE JUST HAVEN'T HADN'T MADE A FINAL CALL YET AT A HIGH LEVEL. EXCITED TO BE BRINGING THIS PROJECT FORWARD TO YOU ALL. I'VE DONE A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENTS. I'VE DONE A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY. THIS ACTUALLY MY FIRST ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT. SO WE BROUGHT A GREAT TEAM TOGETHER, THE DEVELOPERS HERE TONIGHT AND IS EXCITED TO BE MOVING THIS ONE FORWARD.
THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF TIMES DRIVING BY THE SITE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY HOW HE WAS ABLE TO TO FIND THAT THIS WAS ON THE MARKET. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO YOU.
WE ARE GRATEFUL TO STAFF THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM, ANSWER A LOT OF OUR QUESTIONS. MOST OF THE VARIANCES BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ARE RELATED TO KEEPING THE EXISTING BUILDING. YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE THAN 30FT OFF THE STREET. THE ARTICULATIONS JUST AREN'T THERE ON THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. AND THEN THE PARKING NUMBER THAT WE'VE REQUESTED IS MORE OF JUST AN ACTUAL DEMAND ON THE MARKET. SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE, BUT WOULD RESPECTFULLY LIKE TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'VE GOT A COUPLE
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QUESTIONS, SIR. SO WE HAVEN'T YET DECIDED AS IT RELATES TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, WHAT THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE. BUT THERE IS AN INTENT TO DO THOSE. YEAH. WITH THE. THEY'RE BOTH RIGHT NOW LOOK AT THAT. THE YOU KNOW AT THE CONCEPT PLAN LEVEL OFTEN YOU, YOU'RE YOU'RE REALLY HUNTING FOR THINGS THAT END UP BEING VARIANCE REQUESTS LATER. AND SO WE KNEW THE ARTICULATION. WE'VE STUDIED A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU GUYS HAVE ADOPTED WITH SENATE BILL 840 THAT CAME THROUGH. BUT THE THE SCREENING AND THE ARTICULATIONS, WHAT'S IN THE GDC SEEMS TO FIT WHAT OUR NEEDS END UP BEING. AND SO SHOHOULD YU ALL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WILL BE ABLE TO JUMP TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ANSWER FOR YOU BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EXACTLY CROSSED ALL THAT OFF OUR OFF OUR RADAR AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER. YOU PROVIDED ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. YOU MIGHT WANT TO HANG AROUND. WE HAVE A FEW SPEAKER CARDS THIS EVENING ON THIS ITEM. AND THESE ARE NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER. AND I FORGIVE ME IF I SAY THE NAME INCORRECTLY. I'VE GOT FIRST JAMES ALEXANDER, MR. ALEXANDER.THERE IS NO HOUSING NEARBY AT ALL, REALLY. THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE FOR KIDS TO PLAY IN. AND KIDS ARE NOT GOING TO STAY IN A FENCE. THEY NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL. THEY'RE GOING TO RUN ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND IT'S ALL INDUSTRIAL ALL AROUND AND BIG TRUCKS COMING OUT OF CRAFT, TRUCKS GOING THROUGH THE INDUSTRIAL SPOT. AND IT'S EASY FOR SOME KID TO GET HURT AND JUST NOT A GOOD PLACE FOR FOR MULTIFAMILY IT SHOULD BE OFFICE OR WAREHOUSE AND THAT'S ALL WE ALL GOT TO SAY ABOUT IT. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD, BUT PLEASE GO AHEAD. NAME AND ADDRESS JAMES ALEXANDER AND 2006 SILVER STREET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT, I'VE GOT DAVID BOND, MR. BOND. OH. THANK YOU. AND A STACY STEWART. AND I'VE BEEN RECOMMENDED ONCE THIS EVENING. PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS STACY STEWART, 12299 EAST PLEASANT RUN, DESOTO, TEXAS. I REPRESENT FOR LANDOWNERS IN THE PARK. ALL OF THE LANDOWNERS AGREED WITH THE SAME THING THAT WAS JUST SAID A MINUTE AGO IS THAT THERE'S NO GREEN AREA. THERE'S NO GREEN AREA AROUND THIS DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S 30 ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL PARK. THIS IS RIGHT INSIDE OF BASICALLY, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE KIDS GETTING OUT, GETTING AROUND THE VEHICLES, GETTING AROUND THE TRUCKING THAT COMES UP AND DOWN GOLD STREET, SILVER STREET, PLATINUM.
WE ALREADY HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM ON SILVER STREET. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OVER PARKING COMING FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. OUR MAIN CONCERN IS THE KIDS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY. ARE THEY GOING TO GET HURT? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO CONTROL WHERE THE KIDS GO, WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN THE AREA BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STAY INSIDE? IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO INSIDE OR PLAY, THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND SOONER OR LATER ONE OF THEM'S GOING TO GET HURT. THAT'S OUR CONCERN. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. BOND. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO COME AND REBUT. YEAH. THANK YOU. I'VE ASKED OUR DEVELOPER TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THE THE SITE SELECTION ELEMENT. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS WORTHWHILE TO NOTE THAT AT THE CONCEPT PLAN LEVEL, YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF THE AMENITIES THAT THE GDC REQUIRES. THERE'S A MENU OF ITEMS THAT NABILA AND MATTHEW AND STAFF WILL MAKE SURE WE ADHERE TO. YOU SEE HERE THE ROOFTOP DECK. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, DOG PARKS AND WORKOUT AREAS AND YOGA AND FITNESS. AND REALLY, WITH THE LOCATION OF THE SITE, WE'RE JUST ESTIMATING ROUGHLY A 7030 SPLIT BETWEEN ONE BEDROOM EFFICIENCY UNITS ON THE 70% AND TWO BEDROOM, ROUGHLY AT 30%. YOU KNOW, THE PROXIMITY I IS REALLY A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL TYPE OF A CROWD. PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, A YOUNG COUPLE WITH A,
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YOU KNOW, ONE SMALLER CHILD, SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. CERTAINLY AM SENSITIVE TO TO CHILDREN, AS I THINK EVERYONE IS AND SHOULD BE. BUT I YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, THE CONCERN OF, YOU KNOW, THE YOUNGER FOLKS MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THIRD THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE OR WHATEVER, RIDING BIKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE, WE JUST I DON'T THINK THE MARKET REALLY, REALLY SEES THAT HERE. AND I'LL LET GERALD EXTRAPOLATE ON MY COMMENTS THERE. ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT COUNCIL I MEAN PLANNING COMMISSION. MY NAME IS GERALD SAPPINGTON. I LIVE IN DISTRICT SIX. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR FIVE AND A HALF YEARS. I'VE DRIVEN BY THIS SITE MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS AND REALIZED IT WAS A REAL EYESORE. AND SO I WANTED TO TAKE TIME TO TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING OF THIS. AND THE MULTIFAMILY WAS WHAT WE DECIDED WAS THE BEST USE FOR THIS SITE.PART OF THE THINGS IS, IS THAT WE DON'T FEEL THIS IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF FAMILIES LIVING HERE. WE DON'T CONTROL THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CONTROL IT, BUT IT'S MORE DESIGNED MORE FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, YOU KNOW, HELP SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY THE NEW TOWN SQUARE, TO GIVE PEOPLE TO COME DOWN HERE AND LIVE AND COME DOWN AND SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES DOWN HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SAFETY IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO US. WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PARKING OUT ON THE STREETS AND INTERFERING WITH ANYBODY IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. IT'S ALSO THAT OUR INTENT IS FOR MOST OF THE TRAFFIC TO GO OUT ON FOREST LANE, COMING IN AND OUT THAT WAY. AGAIN, THERE'S GOING TO BE OPTIONS. BUT BUT LIKE THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE CURRENT STRUCTURE, IT HAS TO GO COME IN AND OUT ON ON THROUGH THE FRONT. SO SO WE'LL BE HAVING LESS TRAFFIC GOING OUT, EXITING OUT ON GOLD. AND FROM THE STANDPOINT WITH SAFETY, WE WILL WE WILL ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WHERE PEOPLE ARE OUT RUNNING AROUND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. CAN I HAVE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? YOU'VE TOLD US YOU'RE 2638 WEST BANK TRAIL. 542 RIVERSIDE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER, DISCUSSION. I'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF AS PRESENTED. WOULD YOU ALSO LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I'M SORRY. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND ON THE MOTION? GOT IT. I HEARD COMMISSIONER JONES, BUT I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS CHIMED IN FIRST. GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE AS PRESENTED. ANY DISCUSSION, NO DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, LET'S VOTE ON IT. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION PASSES. SIX IN FAVOR, ONE MYSELF IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. AS ALWAYS. ALWAYS ONE. ALL RIGHT. OUR LAST ITEM THIS
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EVENING IS A MISCELLANEOUS ITEM. IT IS ITEM I BELIEVE THREE A. AND WE'LL TYPE IT UP. HOW DARE I NOT TAKE IT UP. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE A. OH, HERE IT IS. THANK YOU. PERIOD GUIDE. THANK YOU. LAST ITEM IS A MISCELLANEOUS ITEM AND A PRESENTATION BY CITY STAFF.EXCUSE ME OF A PROPOSED SUB TIME PERIOD GUIDE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A VOTE REQUIRED ON THIS. IT'S A POLICY FOR. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SIR. WHOEVER YOU VOTE, I WON'T BE OFFENDED EITHER WAY. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? OKAY. IF I'M THIS FAR AWAY FROM THE MIC, WE CAN HEAR YOU. BUT YOU ARE NOT BEING FULLY CAPTURED. YEAH. TOO TALL TO SHRINK A LITTLE BIT. OH, YEAH? YEAH. STANDING DESK. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS RYAN MULKEY. I'M THE NEW LONG RANGE PLANNING ADMINISTRATOR IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDING UPDATES TO THE CITY'S SPECIFIC USE PRECISION SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, OR SOME TIME PERIOD GUIDE. A LITTLE BIT
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OF BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM. IN MARCH OF 2021, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN SCP TIME PERIOD GUIDE TO PROVIDE APPLICANTS, CITY STAFF, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL WITH GUIDANCE REGARDING TIME PERIODS FOR SCP APPLICATIONS. THIS GUIDE RECOMMENDS TIME PERIOD RANGES THAT ARE PRIMARILY BASED ON LAND USE OR TYPE OF LAND USE, AND THE RANGES RECOMMENDED IN THIS GUIDE ARE PRETTY MUCH BASED SOLELY ON HISTORICAL AVERAGES.SO OVER TIME, WHATEVER THE CITY OF GARLAND HAS DONE IN THE PAST FOR TIME PERIODS, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT INFORMED THE CURRENT VERSION OF THIS POLICY GUIDE. HOWEVER, FOLLOWING A REVIEW OF PEER CITY REGULATIONS AS WELL AS OUR OWN SPS ISSUED IN GARLAND SINCE 2020, STAFF HAS DEVELOPED SOME UPDATED GUIDANCE FOR THESE TIME PERIODS THATEALLY CONSIDER MORE THE POTENTIAL LONGEVITY OF THESE USES, AS WELL AS THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT NEEDED TO DEVELOP THE USE. AND THEN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE SPLIT PRIMARILY INTO THREE DIFFERENT SORT OF DEVELOPMENT TIERS. SO TIER ONE IS IS THE MOST INTENSIVE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT. THIS WOULD BE ANY KIND OF NEW DEVELOPMENT ON A GREENFIELD OR UNDEVELOPED SITE. SO IT'S JUST A FRESH SITE THAT'S NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED BEFORE, OR THE COMPLETE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING STRUCTURES ON A SITE AND REPLACEMENT WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT. SO FULL SCRAPE OF A SITE AND FRESH NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE FOR THIS TIER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE RECOMMENDED TIME PERIOD RANGE FALLS SOMEWHERE AROUND 25 TO 30 YEARS. SO SOME EXAMPLE USES IN THIS CATEGORY WOULD BE CAR WASHES. I WON'T NAME ANY BRAND NAMES, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF IMAGINE THE KIND OF GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT THAT CAR WASH WOULD OCCUPY. GAS STATIONS, FREESTANDING DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THIS SECOND DEVELOPMENT TIER WOULD BE PARTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OR EXPANSION. SO THESE ARE PROJECTS INVOLVING SOME KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING SITES. MAYBE THERE IS A COFFEE SHOP AND THE ENDCAP TENANT SPACE OF A STRIP CENTER, AND THEY WANT TO ADD A DRIVE THROUGH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO THE SITE ALSO AS WELL USES SUBJECT TO FREQUENT AND RAPID CHANGES.
THESE ARE LIKE CELL TOWERS, TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. FOR THIS CATEGORY, STAFF'S RECOMMENDED TIME PERIOD RANGE IS MORE 8 TO 15 YEARS. SO THESE ARE USES THAT WE WANT TO REVISIT AND TAKE BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND TO COUNCIL MORE FREQUENTLY, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CHECK IN WITH THOSE UPDATES, SEE IF WHATEVER TIME PERIOD WAS RECOMMENDED PREVIOUSLY IS STILL APPROPRIATE. AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS THE THIRD DEVELOPMENT TIER THAT INVOLVES NO SITE IMPROVEMENTS. THESE ARE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO OCCUPY A TENANT SPACE IN AN EXISTING BUILDING, AND DON'T REALLY INVOLVE ANY SITE IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR HAIR SALONS, YOUR NAIL SALONS. THERE'S SOME DISTRICTS IN THE CITIES WHERE A TATTOO OR BODY PIERCING STUDIO WOULD REQUIRE AN SCP JUST GOING INTO AN EXISTING TENANT SPACE. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION HERE IS MORE OF A 5 TO 8 YEAR PERIOD.
YOU KNOW, THESE THESE KIND OF BUSINESSES TEND TO CHANGE OUT OF THESE SPACES MORE OFTEN, SO REASSESSMENT MORE FREQUENTLY MAY BE APPROPRIATE WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THIS TIME PERIOD GUIDE. AND I DO WANT TO KIND OF EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS JUST A POLICY GUIDE. IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION. IT DOES NOT HOLD DECISION MAKERS, WHETHER THAT'S COMMISSIONERS OR COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO ANY SET STANDARD. ON THE APPLICANT SIDE, IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE THAT AN SUV WILL BE APPROVED AT ALL, OR THAT IT WOULD BE APPROVED FOR ONE OF THESE TIME PERIODS. IT'S JUST A SORT OF ESTABLISH A BASELINE OF EXPECTATIONS. GIVE APPLICANTS A LITTLE BIT MORE CERTAINTY AS THEY NAVIGATE THE REZONING PROCESS. SO WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. YES. THANK YOU. RYAN, YOU HAVE A LITTLE GAP IN YEARS THERE IN YOUR CHART. DID Y'ALL CONSIDER MAYBE A WIDER RANGE OF BREAKDOWNS FROM MAYBE EVERY FIVE YEARS, LIKE 5 TO 10, 10 TO 15, ETC. BECAUSE RECENTLY IN LAST COUNCIL MEETING, A WASHETERIA PROJECT THAT CAME THROUGH THIS BOARD AND WE I MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR 20, WE APPROVED IT FOR TEN, BUT COUNCIL DID APPROVE IT FOR 20 YEARS BECAUSE I THINK BASED ON YOUR DEFINITIONS HERE, THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT GOING INTO THESE PROJECTS, WE DON'T WANT TO PRICE PEOPLE OUT OF THESE OR TURN THEM OUT OF OF PROJECTS
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THAT ARE VALUABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY BY HAVING A TOO SHORT OF A PERIOD. AND AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID, THAT WE HAVE THAT LEEWAY, BUT I JUST WONDERED IF GOD HAD THOUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A PERIOD OF TIME IN HERE, THAT THAT'S JUST NOT ANYWHERE SHOWN.WE DID NOT. SO. I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE LAUNDROMAT. YES, MA'AM. YES.
AGAIN, IN IN DEVELOPING THE TIME PERIODS, THERE'S NO REAL ONE LOGICAL WAY THAT CAN SERVE ALL THE REQUESTS THAT ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU. THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME REQUESTS THAT YOU MAY FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE RECOMMENDED TIME PERIOD, AND IT COULD BE APPROPRIATE. COUNCIL MAY SOMETIMES FEEL DIFFERENTLY OR NOT. SO THERE'S SINCE THERE'S NO ONE WAY OF GETTING THERE. I UNDERSTAND THE GAP THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IS ON ONE. WE HAVE 8 TO 15 AND THEN WE HAVE 25 TO 30. SO WE'RE A LITTLE HESITANT TO MOVE THE PARTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OR EXPANSION FROM TO MAKE IT 8 TO 20. THERE IS A WAY WE CAN MAKE THAT 8 TO 20. AND THE NEW CONSTRUCTION ON A SITE COULD BE 20 TO 30. THAT WOULD VISUALLY LOOK BETTER. THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A GAP, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT WE HAVE TO COVER ALL THE WAY FROM 0 TO 30 YEARS. WE DIDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY. THE ONLY THING THAT I ASKED THAT THE THE COMMISSION THINKS, IS THAT GARLAND IS ON THE VERGE OF MAJOR REDEVELOPMENT. SO IF THERE IS A REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, WE ALSO WANT TO THINK ABOUT THESE TIME PERIODS AS AN OPPORTUNITY. IF THEY'RE THERE, TIME IS UP AND WE ARE READY FOR REDEVELOPMENT FOR THAT SITE. WE DON'T WANT A PARTICULAR SUP TO HOLD US BACK JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE 30 YEAR LONG OF AN SUP, AND WE HAVE TO NOW WAIT 15 MORE YEARS FOR THAT TO BE UP AND THEN FOR US TO GO INTO THE REDEVELOPMENT MODE. SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT I WOULD ASK THAT COMMISSION CONSIDERS. THE OTHER THING FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IS ON A SITE. ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO MENTION, YES, WE ARE PROVIDING LONGER TIME RANGE, BUT THAT IS ALSO FOR COMMISSION AND COUNCIL TO THINK WHEN YOU'RE APPROVING A USE SUCH AS A CAR WASH AND GAS STATION, THAT, HEY, IT'S THERE TO STAY. SO IT'S IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. SO IF THAT IS TRULY NOT THE BEST USE OF THE SITE, THERE'S NO THINKING THAT, OH, MAYBE IT'S AN UNDERUTILIZED SITE. LET'S JUST GET THAT TO USE FOR NOW. THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN LIKE THAT PROBABLY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. SO THOSE WERE KIND OF OUR REASONING BEHIND HOW WE CAME UP WITH THIS. BUT IF COMMISSION HAS A DIFFERENT SUGGESTION, WE'RE OKAY TO TAKE IT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL. AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT PART OF THE GDC. SO IT'S NOT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADHERE TO IT WHEN YOU'RE RECOMMENDING SOMETHING. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING, AS RYAN MENTIONED, TO PROVIDE THE APPLICANTS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE WHEN THEY START THE PROCESS. YEAH. IMPORTANT PART OF MY QUESTIONING GOES BACK TO AND I'M GOING TO USE THAT, THAT AS AN EXAMPLE IS THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT GENTLEMAN WAS PUTTING IN $1.5 MILLION. THAT IS NOT THAT'S IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
I MEAN, THAT'S IN A IT'S NOT A SINGLE OWNED BUILDING. IF HE WAS, THAT WAS A SINGLE BUILDING, I'D HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ATTITUDE ABOUT THAT. BUT THAT'S IN A LARGE SHOPPING CENTER. AND IN ORDER TO TOTALLY REDEVELOP THAT ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER, YOU'D HAVE TO CUT EVERYBODY OFF AT SOME REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME IN THEIR SUPS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT. NOT EVERYONE THERE MAY NEED AN SUV. SOME OF THEM ARE PROBABLY OPERATING BY. RIGHT. SO WHEN THE CITY DOESN'T DO DOES GO AND DO THESE REDEVELOPMENTS. THERE ARE TONS OF DIFFERENT MECHANISMS. WE WE HAVE TO FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEY HAVE TO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PARTNERING WITH THEM TO GO INTO THOSE EFFORTS. BUT THE THE REASON THE TIMELINE IS JUST ONE SINGLE THING, ONE LITTLE ADDITIONAL TOOL THAT WE MAY HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX TO FACILITATE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THE THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT TO MENTION, I KNOW THE APPLICANTS ALWAYS WANT TO LINE UP THE TIME PERIOD WITH WITH THEIR LEASE TIME, AND THAT HAS COME UP A COUPLE TIMES. THAT IS NOT A CONSIDERATION. THAT IS TRULY LAND USE RELATED. THAT'S BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR LAND LANDLORD. THEY CAN REDO THEIR LEASE. THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY COME BACK AND RENEW THEIR SP. THERE'S NO RATIONAL NEXUS
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BETWEEN THE SP TIME PERIOD HAVING TO COMPLY WITH THE LEASE PERIOD THAT THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE SIGNED. THAT'S JUST ONE. AGAIN, COMMISSION AND COUNCIL CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN APPLICANTS ARE SAYING IT, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A LAND USE MATTER FOR A ZONING DECISION. AND ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK SINCE I'M STILL GETTING MY BEARINGS HERE, GARLAND TYPICALLY SUPS RUN WITH THE LAND, NOT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL OPERATOR. I ASSUME THAT'S STILL THE CASE THAT THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE TO CONSIDER WHEN EVALUATING REALLY ANY SUPS, WHETHER IT'S THE TIME PERIOD OR ANY OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS THAT ARE PART OF THAT APPROVAL IS, YOU KNOW, WEE MAY HAVE AN OPERATOR HERE TODAY FOR A LAUNDROMAT OR A TATTOO STUDIO OR WHATEVER THAT, YOU KNOW, SEEMS TO BE A GOOD OPERATOR, WILL BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREA, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT WHEN THAT SUP IS APPROVAL IS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL FOR THAT PARTICULAR SUITE IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, IF IT HAS A 30 YEAR TIME PERIOD, THAT 30 YEAR TIME PERIOD RUNS WITH THAT SUITE AND THAT LAND, WHETHER IT'S THE OPERATOR BEFORE US TODAY THAT WE LIKE SO MUCH, OR ANOTHER TATTOO STUDIO LAUNDROMAT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST KIND OF THROWING OUT USES OPERATOR THAT MIGHT COME IN 15 YEARS DOWN THE LANE. THAT OPERATOR WOULD NOT NEED TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL IN ORDER TO MOVE INTO THAT SUITE, BECAUSE THAT SUP OF 30 YEARS OR WHATEVER IT IS, IS STILL APPLICABLE. THAT'S THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT TIER THREE IS SOME OF THESE AND THEY'RE JUST EXAMPLES. BUT SOME OF THOSE EXAMPLE USES TYPICALLY TEND TO CHANGE OUT MORE FREQUENTLY. SO REALLY THE KIND OF NEXUS THERE WHEN EVALUATING THE SUP IS, DO WE NEED TO KIND OF KEEP UP WITH THESE USES A LITTLE BIT MORE FREQUENTLY. ARE THEY TATTOO STUDIOS. ARE THEY CELL TOWERS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO BE CHANGED OUT IN FIVE YEARS. OR IS THIS A CAR WASH? IS THIS A GAS STATION THAT, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WOULD BE THERE FOR LONGER? THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE THE CONNECTING POINT TO CONSIDER WHEN WHEN EVALUATING SUPS. AND I THINK I FIGURED OUT A WAY TO MAKE THE BIKE WORK FOR ME, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. AGAIN, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE POINT OF THE WASH CHAIR. WE IT'S ALL IN OUR MINDS, FRESH IN OUR MINDS.IF THAT HAD BEEN A SEPARATE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON BROADWAY OR WHATEVER STREET IT'S ON, JUST A SINGLE STANDING BUILDING, I WOULD HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PATTERN OF THINKING ON THAT. BUT I'M THINKING IN A SHOPPI CENTER BECAUSE AFTER THE MEETING, I TALKED TO THE TO THE APPLICANT, AND HE SAID IF HE HAD KNOWN THAT EIGHT YEARS WAS THE MAXIMUM HE'D BEEN TOLD EIGHT, HE WOULD HAVE NEVER WENT ANY FURTHER. SO WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE THE APPLICANT IS APPLYING FOR IS WHERE IT'S AT, BECAUSE WE MAY LOSE A LIFE, JUST LIKE I USED TO SAY IN BANKING, IF YOU GET IF YOUR LENDING LIMITS GET TOO TIGHT, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF GOOD LOANS. SO YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THERE. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS, YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH. BUT WE STILL HAVEE THE FLEXIBILITY. AND I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND MY THINKING OF OF MAYBE ADDING ANOTHER TIER IN HERE. AND THERE'S THERE WAS ONE APPLICATION THAT CAME BEFORE US SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. AND I IN THINKING BACKWARDS, I WOULD HAVE PUT AN INDEFINITE RECOMMENDED AN INDEFINITE ON HIM BECAUSE THIS WAS A MAN THAT OWNED HIS OWN PROPERTY. HE HAD BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS, AND NOW HE HAS A 30 YEAR SUV ON HIS PROPERTY. AND IF I'D HAVE BEEN, I KNOW, I KNOW, HE'S GOING TO BE SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO BE DOING THAT DOWN THE ROAD. BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THAT AS IN THAT KIND OF SITUATION. PERHAPS SOMETHING I MIGHT THINK DIFFERENTLY. YEAH. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE FATHERS OF THE CODE AS, AS I LIKE TO SAY, THE PEOPLE WHO WHEN DEVELOPINGNG, I KEE KNOCKING INTO THIS WHEN DEVELOPING OUR CURRENT VERSION OF THE CODE, DETERMINED, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, ETCETERA, WHAT USES WERE GOING TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT VERSUS WHAT USES WERE GOING TO BE PERMITTED BY SUP, YOU KNOW, FOR A LAUNDROMAT OR WHATEVER AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER ZONING DISTRICT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS LOCATED IN. WHEN THE CODE WAS DEVELOPED, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA, BASED ON THIS TYPE OF ZONING DISTRICT, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE THIS BY BY, RIGHT, WHERE SOMEONE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, GO ON TO PERMIT. THEY NEED AN SUP FIRST. SO REALLY THE INTENT OF AN SUP IS WE'VE ALREADY SAID, HEY, WE NEED WE NEED A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY OF THIS USE. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S
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ALREADY GOING TO BE BUILT IN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF THIS ZONING UNCERTAINTY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GO ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT IT. I DO WANT TO CAUTION MY CITY BEFORE THIS WAS THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE CITY OF DALLAS. YOU NEED AN SUP TO STEP OUTSIDE YOUR FRONT DOOR AND TAKE A BREATH OF ESH AIR. SO, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE ZONING CASES THAT THAT CLOG UP THE REZONING PIPELINE IN DALLAS. R.SUP.S. SO I WOULD I WOULD CAUTION US TO NOT BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE, I GUESS, WITH SUP CONSIDERATIONS, BUT IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE WE'RE COMING AT THE SAME THING, MAYBE FROM TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. SO YEAH, I JUST I JUST ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION AND, AND STAFF TO LISTEN RATHER THAN JUST A BLANKET AREA TO LOOK AT THE UNIQUENESS OF A APPLICANTS PROCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY'RE NOT COMING IN AND SPENDING ANY MONEY, BUT WHEN SOMEONE'S GOING TO COME IN AND SPEND A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS, THAT PUTS IT IN A DIFFERENT TERM. SUP? ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE I WOULD PUT MYSELF IN HIS PLACE IF I HAD A 20 YEAR LEASE IN A IN A 10 OR 15 YEAR LOAN TO PAY BACK. IT'S LIKE I SAID, HAD HE HE TOLD ME THAT IF HE KNEW, IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MAXIMUM HE COULD HAVE, COULD HAVE WENT FORWARD WITH, HE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE. SO THERE'S A CASE OF LOSING A GOOD LOAN IN BANKING OR LOSING A GOOD PERSON IN OUR CITY. PLUS WE GO BACK JUST LIKE THE THE, THE BUILDING WITH THE LAST THING WE APPROVED. I MEAN, I SAW THAT BUILDING BEING BUILT AND NOW IT IS AN EYESORE. AND I THINK IN SPITE OF THE OF THE FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THE CONCERN FOR CHILDREN, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK THE BUILDER IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT, THAT CONCERN, AND THAT'S WHY I FEEL THAT WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER PARIS. I THINK MY QUESTION OR INQUIRY HAS BEEN RESOLVED HERE, BUT I'LL STATE WHAT I WAS THINKING BECAUSE I ALSO WATCHED THE THE COUNCIL'S REVIEW OF THE LAUNDROMATS, THE LAUNDROMAT USE. AND AND I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE CONDITION THAT THEY PUT ON THE 20, THE 20 YEAR. SO THERE WERE TWO CASES AND I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO VET EACH CASE. MY MY INTENT IS I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT CONDITIONS TOWARDS THESE, TOWARDS SOME OF THE TIERED STEPS. PROBABLY NOT LIKELY, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER WHAT I SAW IN THAT IN THE COUNCIL'S REVIEW WAS THAT ADDING CONDITIONS ALSO HELPED BRIDGE SOME OF THEIR THEIR GAP INTO APPROVING RIGHT AND AND MAKING SURE. SO IF A RANGE DIDN'T REALLY KIND OF WORK QUITE RIGHT, CONDITIONS WERE ADDED. AND SO THAT WAS WHERE I WAS GOING TO ASK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CONDITIONS. BUT GIVEN SOME OF THE CONVERSATION THAT I'VE HEARD, I DON'T THINK THE CONDITIONS WOULD BE A PART OF THE TEARING OR IN ANY WAY. AND I LIKE THE TEARING NOW THAT I, YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER WAYS. IT'S NOT A IT'S A POLICY, IT'S A GUIDE. IT'S NOT.YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY. IT IS A WAY TO JUST HELP WITH SOME OF THE CASES THAT WE HAVE. SO THE CONDITIONS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE OPTIONS FOR US. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR. SO I DO ENCOURAGE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THINK MORE AND MORE. IF YOU THE SOUP AGAIN, LIKE RYAN SAID, THERE'S A REASON IT REQUIRES AN SUP. WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE PUTTING THAT USE IN THAT LAND AS IT IS. THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING BEFORE YOU AND CITY COUNCIL. SO IT'S ALREADY BEING SCRUTINIZED. SO THERE'S A REASON BEHIND IT. SO IF YOU HAVE THINGS IN YOUR MIND THAT YOU THINK WILL MAKE THE USE MORE COMPATIBLE, THAT CAN ALWAYS PUT INTO THE CONDITIONS, IT'LL JUST BE HARD TO TIE IT TO THIS GUIDE JUST BECAUSE OF THE WE GET PLENTY OF SUP REQUESTSTS THERE. ALL DIFFERENT BASE ZONING, DIFFERENT USES, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. SO EACH EVEN IF IT'S THE SAME USE, THE BASE ZONING COULD BE DIFFERENT. THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT CONDITIONS MAY WORK FOR DIFFERENT REQUESTS. SO WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO TIE IT WITH ONE GUIDE. BUT IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE KIND OF MAKING THAT THAT SUGGESESTION TT WE GO MORE TOWARD ADDING CONDITIONS WHEN APPROPRIATE. YEAH, YEAH, THERE WAS TWO OF THOSE CASES AND ONE CONDITION ONE DIDN'T FOR THE SAME USE. CORRECT. YEAH. JUST TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON ON WHAT NABILA WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, SHE'S OBVIOUSLY MORE FAMILIAR WITH WITH THE INS AND OUTS OF THIS PARTICULAR BODY HERE AT GARLAND. BUT I'LL JUST ADD ON TO THAT, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT ZONING IS AN INCREDIBLY DISCRETIONARY PROCESS. IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST DISCRETIONARY COMPONENT OF LAND USE REGULATION MORE THAN, YOU KNOW,
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EVALUATING FOR THE BUILDING CODE OR SUBDIVISION OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHY IT'S MY FAVORITE PART OF OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, BECAUSE IT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE AND HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIABLES THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED. SO WHETHER WE'RE THINKING ABOUT A TIME PERIOD FOR AN SUP, OTHER SITE CONDITIONS OR SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL, YOU KNOW, WOULD MAKE US MORE COMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING AN SUP, OR IF IT'S LIKE THE I'M GOING TO GET IT RIGHT, I SWEAR, ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, PDS THAT WE SAW THIS EVENING OR SOMETHING ZONING AND YOU KNOW, THESE THESE HEARINGS, THESE DISCUSSIONS HERE AND AT COUNCIL, THAT'S REALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF DO SOME BRAINSTORMING, DO SOME CREATIVE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WT WE'D LIKE TO SEE MOVING FORWARD. SO JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. IS THAT IT? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS ORDINANCE 20 601 IS REALLY FOR THE APPLICANT.IT'S TO HAND THEM AND SAY THIS IS THE CITY'S NORMAL RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR PARTICULAR APPLICATION. AND IN NO WAY TIES OUR HANDS NOR CITY COUNCIL. WE COULD COME IN HERE AND TELL A CELL PHONE TOWER HE'S ONLY GOT FIVE YEARS. OR WE COULD GO TELL ANYBODY. OH, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU 30 YEARS. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU TEN YEARS, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE IN THAT CHART. THAT'S STILL DISCRETION. BACK TO US IN CITY COUNCIL. I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL, AS IT'S WRITTEN WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, I BELIEVE YOU WERE NEXT. YES, I YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER DALTON SHAPED IT UP PERFECTLY FOR ME.
I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALWAYS THINKING THIS BODY IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE LAND, AND IT GETS REALLY DIFFICULT WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY'RE TELLING US EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT IN ORDER TO GET APPROVAL. BUT I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PUT CONDITIONS IN PLACE AND BE CREATIVE REGARDING THE LAND AND OUR ROLE AS COMMISSIONERS. I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY FOCUSED ON THAT AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T MEAN TO BE SO STERILE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE COMES UP AND THEY'RE CREATING ALL OF THE NOT CREATING, THEY'RE SHARING ALL OF THESE OTHER FACTORS. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE IN PLACE TO APPROVE. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR HANDS ARE NOT TIED AND THAT THIS IS GREAT. I LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE TIME PERIOD. IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE PROPER USE OF THE LAND. AND IF I COULD JUST SPEAK TO COMMISSIONER DALTON'S POINT, THIS DISCLAIMER PARAGRAPH THAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED HERE, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT ON THE CURRENT TIME PERIOD GUIDE FROM 2021 BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE ADDED, YOU KNOW, AS OUR RECOMMENDED UPDATE. JUST STATING THAT THIS GUIDE IS ADVISORY ONLY, ONLY IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THE APPLICATION WILL BE APPROVED AT ALL OR WITH ONE OF THESE SPECIFIC TIME PERIODS. IT'S JUST A REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS, THE APPLICANTS, CITY STAFF, COMMISSION AND COUNCIL, AND THAT THE CITY RETAINS FULL DISCRETION OVER APPROVALS, TIME PERIODS. EVERYTHING IS EVALUATED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. AND COMMISSIONER DALTON'S POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT. YES, ABSOLUTELY. BUT ANY KIND OF ZONING APPLICATION YOU'RE FILING, WHETHER IT'S STRAIGHT REZONING, A PD, AN WHATEVER IT IS, A LITTLE BIT OF SHAKE THE DICE AND STEAL THE RICE. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A VERY COMPLEX MULTI BODY REVIEW PROCESS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT CAN COME INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THAT. SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME UNCERTAINTY. BUT I THINK THIS UPDATE TO THE GUIDE KIND OF HELPS FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM BETWEEN TOTAL CHAOS AND, YOU KNOW, A STRICT GUARANTEE. SO THANK YOU. WE'RE ON TO ROUND TWO. I DO SEE A MOTION IN THE CHAIR. CAN I CAN I SQUEEZE A COUPLE COMMENTS IN REALLY QUICKLY. NO. ALL RIGHT I'LL GO FOR IT THEN. I'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DALTON. I MAKE A
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MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, MOVE THIS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. WE'VE GOT A SECOND ON THAT. THERE WAS A COMMENT AND I AGREE WITH CITY STAFF.THIS IS NOT TECHNICALLY AN ITEM FOR PUBLIC HEARING, SO NO VOTE IS NEEDED. HOWEVER, WE CAN STILL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO DO SO. SO WE'VE GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PARIS. NOW THE MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE GUIDE AND SEND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR PERUSAL. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? COMMISSIONER DALTON, YOU'RE STILL IN THE QUEUE. DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS? OKAY. WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. AND A SECOND WE PREPARE FOR A VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. THAT CONCLUDES THIS TONIGHT'S MEETING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AS WELL. OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING WILL BE ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026 AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED TIME
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.