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          16TH, 2026 WORK SESSION OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. I WANT TO MAKE A NOTE OFF THE BEGINNING THAT ITEM NUMBER 13, OUR LEGISLATIVE AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS COMMITTEE REPORT WILL BE POSTPONED TO ANOTHER DATE BECAUSE OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS, ARIEL TRAUB, IS SICK. SO WE'LL HAVE TO POSTPONE THAT ITEM. OUR FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC 
          [ PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS]
COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ANY WORK SESSION ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU PLEASE THEN CALL FOR SPEAKER? CARL SMITH? YOU DO FIVE AND THEN 17. I'LL LET YOU GO BACK TO BACK UNDER ITEM. SIR. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR EACH. OH, I'M HIGHLY IN FAVOR OF RIGHT SIDE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. IT WILL HELP RELIEVE OUR EMS NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, I'M SORRY. OH, I'M SORRY. THE TOP OF IT. YES, SIR. 
          I KNOW THAT BY NOW. YOU SHOULD. BY NOW YOU'RE A PRO. CARL SMITH, 2216 RICH OAK DRIVE. I YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD PEOPLE COMMENT FROM OTHER CITIES ABOUT HOW IT RELIEVED THE EMS STRAIN. IT'S GOOD PROGRAM. IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING. AND I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT GLOWING REPORTS ABOUT IT. SO I THINK Y'ALL SHOULD CONTRACT WITH THEM AND APPROVE IT. AND LET'S GET GOING. 
          I'M DONE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL RESET THE CLOCK AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER THREE MINUTES. ON YOUR NEXT TOPIC, SIR, I HAVE TO SAY MY NAME AGAIN. NO, I THINK WE GOT IT BY NOW. YEAH. I'M OLD, SO SOMETIMES I FORGET IT. YEAH. OKAY. I DIDN'T WRITE ANYTHING DOWN TONIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO DO THIS FROM THE HEART. GUILT TRIPPING, GRANDSTANDING, THREATENING, LYING. THAT IS WHAT MD PATHWAYS HAS BROUGHT US. THE DOCTOR SAID IF WE BROUGHT IT TO A VOTE, HE WAS GOING TO CANCEL IT. NO CANCELLATION AS FAR AS ANYBODY KNOWS. IS THIS THE KIND OF COMPANY WE WOULD WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH, EVEN IF THE CITIZENRY HAD NOT KIND OF COME UP IN FORCE AND OPPOSED IT? I DON'T THINK WE WOULD WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S THAT UNPROFESSIONAL. 
          THAT'S ABOUT ALL I GOT TO SAY ON THAT. PLEASE VOTE TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT AND CANCEL THE ELECTION. BUT LET'S DO IN THAT ORDER. OTHERWISE IT'D GET A LITTLE STICKY. ANYWAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER? ALL RIGHT. AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY STAR AND 6509 FALLBROOK DRIVE, GARLAND, TEXAS. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON RIGHT SITE AND OFFER MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROGRAM. RIGHT SIDE IS NOT EXPERIMENTAL. IT OPERATES IN VERY LARGE CITIES WITH CALL VOLUMES FAR. EDEN GARLAND'S HOUSTON IS NEARLY TEN TIMES OUR SIZE. SAN ANTONIO IS SIX TIMES LARGER, FORT WORTH AND AUSTIN ARE ROUGHLY FOUR TIMES LARGER. 
          I KNOW THEY ONLY HAVE A VERBAL IN AUSTIN. GRADY EMS IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA HAS 4 TO 10 TIMES THE CALL VOLUME OF GARLAND'S. IF THIS MODEL WORKS IN CITIES OF THAT SCALE, IT CAN ABSOLUTELY WORK HERE. MEANING THESE CITIES ARE ALSO COMPARABLE TO GARLAND'S UNINSURED AND UNDERINSURED NUMBERS. IT'S ESTIMATED 50 TO 60% OF EMS CALLS ARE NOT TRUE EMERGENCIES, YET THOSE PATIENTS OFTEN END UP IN THE ER BECAUSE THEY THEY JUST REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION. I DON'T HAVE TO TELL ANYONE HERE HOW EXPENSIVE TRANSPORTING NON-EMERGENT PATIENTS IS. IF THIS PRACTICE CAN BE AVOIDED, OUR WONDERFUL EMS PERSONNEL CAN FOCUS ON TRUE EMERGENCIES, WHERE TIME TRULY IS OF THE ESSENCE. FORTUNATELY, RIGHT SIDE GIVES THEM ANOTHER OPTION ACCORDING TO RIGHT SIDES OWN STATISTICS, WHEN PEOPLE ARE GIVEN THE CHOICE, 93% SAY YES TO TELEHEALTH VERSUS BEING TRANSPORTED TO AN ER. SERIOUSLY, WHO WANTS TO BE SITTING IN AN ER FOR HOURS UPON HOURS? I LIKE THE FACT THAT PATIENTS CONNECT DIRECTLY WITH A BOARD CERTIFIED 
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EMERGENCY MEDICINE PHYSICIAN, NOT A PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT, NOT A NURSE PRACTITIONER, BUT THE MOST QUALIFIED ER DOCTOR AVAILABLE TO MAKE EMERGENCY DECISIONS. ALSO, RIGHT SIDE DOESN'T JUST DO A QUICK TELEHEALTH VISIT AND DISAPPEAR. THEY ARRANGE ROUND TRIP TRANSPORTATION. THEY COORDINATE MEDICATION PICKUP, THEY HELP PATIENTS UNDERSTAND THEIR INSURANCE BENEFITS AND EVEN ASSIST WITH FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE PAPERWORK. THE AFTERCARE IS EXTRAORDINARY. FOR THE FIRST SEVEN DAYS, THE NAVIGATOR ACTIVELY MANAGES THE PATIENT'S CARE. FOR THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS, THE PATIENT CAN CALL BACK FOR ANY REASON. I HAVE GREAT INSURANCE AND TELEHEALTH ACCESS. PERSONALLY, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A LEVEL OF THIS. FOLLOW UP. FUNDING COMES PRIMARILY FROM HEALTH PLANS, WHICH PREFER LESS EXPENSIVE TELEHEALTH VISITS AS OPPOSED TO ER VISIT. THEY ALSO MAINTAIN A FOUNDATION AND WORK WITH CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS TO SUPPORT THE UNINSURED AND UNDERINSURED, MAKING THIS CARE ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL WHO NEED IT. I DON'T HAVE A LITTLE CLOCK. HOW AM I DOING? YOU GOT 30S OKAY. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE PATIENT REMAINS IN CONTROL EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS. 
          THERE ARE NO AUTOMATIC CHARGES ON WATER BILLS. EVERYTHING IS DONE IN PLAIN SIGHT WITH FULL TRANSPARENCY. IF COUNCIL DOES VOTE YES ON THIS PROGRAM, WHICH I RECOMMEND THEY DO, I WOULD ENCOURAGE CLEAR PUBLIC MESSAGING. IF A PATIENT CHOICE, NO AUTOMATIC BILLING AND PHYSICIAN LED CARE. THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT TELEHEALTH RECENTLY, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE MESSAGE MESSAGE CLEARLY DISASSOCIATES THIS PROGRAM FROM MD HEALTH PATHWAYS. SO I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. MD HEALTH PATHWAYS. I THINK I'VE MADE MY POINT VERY, VERY CLEAR. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME BIG THINGS TO SOLVE IN THIS CITY. THIS SMALL PROGRAM IS NOT ONE OF THEM. WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THINGS, AND IT'S BEEN A DISTRACTION FOR OUR CITY. IT'S BEEN A DISTRACTION FOR ME. 
          I SPEND THE MAJORITY OF MY TIME WRITING FREE SOFTWARE FOR CHARITIES. THAT'S WHAT I DO. I DO IT IN THE BACKGROUND. I NORMALLY DON'T PUBLICLY SPEAK ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHERE MY HEART IS. I DON'T LIKE SHOWING UP HERE. I DON'T LIKE BEING ANGRY. I DON'T LIKE SEEING SOCIAL MEDIA AFLAME WITH WITH COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN A LOT OF THEM ARE FALSE. I'M GIVING YOU A LITTLE EXTRA TIME, SO I'M GOING INTO THE NEXT TOPIC. OH, YOU SIGNED UP FOR TWO I YEAH. I'M SORRY. I'M SO SORRY. WE RESET THE CLOCK AND I APOLOGIZE. SO I'M TALKING ABOUT MD HEALTH. OH OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU SIGNED UP FOR TWO. YEAH. GO AHEAD. I SHOULD HAVE PUT A TURN SIGNAL ON HER. YEAH, IT'S A SIGNAL FOR CHANGING LANES. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY DIVIDED. OUR CITY, THIS ONE LITTLE TOPIC, AND IT ALL COMES DOWN. I'M SPEAKING FROM THE HEART TONIGHT. I HAVE A WRITTEN COMMENT, BUT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE AUTOMATIC OPT IN. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OTHER LAYERS, RIGHT? SO IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A LAYER WE CAN LAYER IN. HOPE CLINIC IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE. I'D RATHER DONATE MONEY, WHICH I DO TO HOPE CLINIC. I'D RATHER HELP THEM WITH THEIR SOFTWARE WHICH I'VE OFFERED. THIS IS A DISTRACTION WE DON'T NEED, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS SWAP AND DROP. 
          COMING UP. YOU KNOW, I STUDIED THAT. I READ YOUR MESSAGE. VERY GOOD MESSAGE. I UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY OF IT, BUT LET'S GET REAL. SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT STUDY THAT. SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT LOOK INTO THE DETAILS OF THAT. SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THE COMPRESSION THAT'S HAPPENING ON OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION EXPENSES. SOME PEOPLE WON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE CANNOT MAINTAIN OUR FACILITIES. SOME PEOPLE WON'T UNDERSTAND THAT OUR WONDERFUL CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE NOT GOTTEN A RAISE AND WILL NOT GET A RAISE, AND ALL THESE FACILITIES THAT WE'VE BUILT, WHERE WE'VE ENHANCED IT, TAKES PERSONNEL TO RUN THESE THINGS. AND AND THAT'S WHERE THE BUDGET COMES FROM. PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP AND LISTEN TO THAT. ALL THEY'RE GOING TO SEE FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS IS MD HEALTH PATHWAYS AND HOW MAD IT MAKES THEM AND HOW ANGRY IT MAKES THEM THAT THEY WERE SIGNED UP WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. NOW IS THE TIME FOR LEADERSHIP TO STEP UP. Y'ALL ARE THE LEADERS OF THIS CITY AND IT REALLY, REALLY MADE ME ANGRY TO SEE THAT DOCTOR COME UP THERE AND SLAM YOU, MR. MAYOR. SLAM YOU, MR. BETTS, BOTH HAVE SERVED THIS CITY FAITHFULLY AND DID NOT DESERVE THAT. THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF PERSON I WOULD WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH. SO I RECOMMEND YOU SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT CANCELING THIS CONTRACT. AND LET'S GET BACK TO THE BUSINESS OF RUNNING THIS CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ONE SECOND. GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR, COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON. SO NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION, BUT SINCE YOU MENTIONED HOPE CLINIC, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN RAISING MONEY FOR THE HOPE CLINIC. I DON'T KNOW IF EVER ANYONE HAS SEEN DANNY STEPPED UP TO CHALLENGE EVERYONE TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE 
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HOPE CLINIC, WHICH WAS VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE. SO MY ONLY QUESTION FOR YOU IS HOW MUCH DID YOU END UP DONATING? I IT'S A FUNNY STORY. IT IS A FUNNY STORY. WELL, LET'S SAY I WAS GOING TO DONATE THE $6 A MONTH BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE CONTRACT WAS GOING TO BE CANCELED. SO I CHALLENGE EVERYONE TO VOTE, DONATE $72. SOMEONE SAID, WELL, I'VE DONATED $10 A MONTH. I GO, WELL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADD $10 TOMORROW, SO I'LL DONATE 82. WELL, MY WIFE STEPS UP AND SAYS, WELL, I DONATED. I MET YOUR DONATION. I'M LIKE, WELL, GREAT, I'M GOING TO DONATE MORE. LONG STORY SHORT, WE DONATED SEVERAL TIMES, ENDED UP DONATING $246. SO WE DONATED 41 MONTHS OF TELEHEALTH AT $6 A MONTH TO HOPE CLINIC. BUT IT'S ALL FOR A GOOD CAUSE. AND IT WAS FUNNY. 
          IT WAS FUNNY. SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE HAD ALREADY PAID AND VICE VERSA. AND GOOD STORY. SO THANK YOU DANNY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR. THANKS. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER. YES, SIR. ASHLEY LOCKHART. NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. SO OUR CHURCH IS LOCATED. SO WE ARE AS WELL. WE ARE A YOUNG ADULT VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION GROUP, A PART OF THE WORLD MISSION SOCIETY, CHURCH OF GOD. WHICH ITEM ON THE AGENDA ARE YOU ADDRESSING? ITEM 12. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND SO WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THE ADOPT A STREET FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE ACTIVITIES, BUT WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT AREA YET TO WHERE WE CAN EVEN GET TO THAT STATE TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP, TO HAVE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE CAN SUPPORT ON A NORMAL BASIS, WHICH IS THE BASIS OF THE ADOPTED STREET PROGRAM. SO WE'RE STARTING SMALL. OUR CHURCH, WE ARE A YOUNG ADULT INTERNATIONAL VOLUNTEER GROUP, AND WE SUPPORT MANY CITIES. OUR OUR LOCATION IS IN RICHARDSON. WE WILL BE HOLDING A VOLUNTEER CLEANUP THIS COMING SUNDAY. AND THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE OUT OF ALL THE CITIES THAT WE REACHED OUT TO AND THESE ARE YOUNG ADULTS, THESE AREN'T OLDER. WE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE DEDICATING TIME TO TRY TO SUPPORT THE CITY. GARLAND WAS THE ONLY CITY THAT RESPONDED. YOU GUYS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT GAVE US TIME. YOU GUYS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT READ OUR EMAILS. YOUR STAFF HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONES TO CALL US BACK. YOU HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONES TO OPEN THE DOOR, EVEN TO GREET US, TO RECEIVE US TODAY. AND OUR GOAL AND OUR FOCUS IS TO HELP AND TO SUPPORT, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT CAN ONLY HAPPEN WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER. AND SO WE ARE HERE TODAY. 
          BEFORE YOU NOT ASKING, YOU KNOW, OR BASHING OR COMING AT IN A IN A WAY THAT IS BLAMING, WE'RE COMING FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SUPPORT THE CITY, BUT WE DO NEED YOUR HELP. AS LEADERS, AS LEADERS, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT OUR ACTIVITIES, TO RECOGNIZE THE 75 VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE GOING TO COME, AND TO CLEAN UP YOUR CITIES, TO CLEAN UP YOUR STREETS, AND TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GOOD JOB. AND BY US ANSWERING YOUR EMAIL, IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ANOTHER VOLUNTEER GROUP THAT'S SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND JUST DEDICATE OUR TIME. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THESE YOUNG ADULTS ARE DEDICATING THEIR LIVES TO. OVER 15,000 HOURS OF WORK WITHIN JUST MERE MONTHS, THAT THESE VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE IN SCHOOL, WHO CAN'T EVEN SUPPORT THEMSELVES BUT ARE TRYING TO SUPPORT YOU SO BEHALF OF US AS WELL, WE REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN PARTNER TOGETHER, AND WE HOPE THAT EVEN THIS ONE MEETING CAN BE AN INTRODUCTION INTO A NEXT MEETING, AND HOPE THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO EVEN ATTEND OUR UPCOMING CLEANUP, IF THAT'S JUST TO POP IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, GUYS? THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I CAN'T CLEAN WITH YOU. IF YOU WANT TO. WE'LL HAVE LITTER GRABBERS READY FOR YOU, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO JUST SAY WE THANK YOU OUT OF ALL THE CITIES AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TO EVEN SEE US TODAY. AND WE HAD MANY VOLUNTEERS THAT WANTED TO COME MEET YOU ALL TODAY, BUT WE HAVE A FEW. WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION FOR THE UPCOMING EVENT, AND OUR VOLUNTEERS HAD A FEW WORDS THAT WE WANT TO SAY TO YOU. VOLUNTEERS. READY? ONE, TWO THREE. WE LOVE YOU. WE LOVE YOU, WE LOVE YOU. WHY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MA'AM. 
          ONE SECOND. I GOT THE QUESTIONS ARE COMING IN LIKE QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER BASS, THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING HERE TODAY. AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THIS IS THE GREATEST CITY. 
          AND BUT MY QUESTION IS HAVE YOU GUYS CONNECTED WITH HOST DIAZ OR COORDINATOR OKAY. YES. SO OUR SO WE ALREADY HAVE THE REGISTRATION CODE FOR THE VOLUNTEERS TO SIGN UP. AND IT'S ALREADY REGISTERED THROUGH THE CITY OF GARLAND. PERFECT. AWESOME. YOU KNOW IT'S A IT'S AMAZING TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE TAKE AN INTEREST IN TAKING TAKING THEIR FUTURE TO HEART. 
          SO THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU MAYOR. THK YOU. AND IS IT OKAY FOR US TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION? THANK YOU SO MUCH. ONE SECOND. DON'T GO ANYWHERE YET. OH, MORE QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF YOUR TIME SO THAT I CAN 
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PROPERLY. THANK YOU. PASTOR. OKAY. WHAT'S THE NAME OF YOUR CHURCH AGAIN? IT'S CALLED THE WORLD MISSION SOCIETY, CHURCH OF GOD. AND WAS IT LOCATED? IT IS LOCATED IN RICHARDSON OFF OF BELTLINE. AND HAS IT BEEN ESTABLISHED SO THE CHURCH HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE 1964. IT ORIGINATED IN SOUTH KOREA, AND IT HAS SPREAD TO ABOUT 175 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. SO WE ARE A PART OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL ASSOCIATION REGION, A PART OF TEXAS. AND SO OUR MAIN HEADQUARTERS LOCATION IS IN ARLINGTON, BUT WE HAVE A MAIN LOCATION HERE IN RICHARDSON AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. WELL, SINCE YOU'RE LOCATED HEADQUARTERED IN OUR SISTER CITY, YES, WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR HOOKING UP WITH GARLAND. AND WE WILL USE YOUR SERVICES AND WE'RE HERE TO CAN'T SAY WE VOLUNTEER IT. ALL OF YOUR EVENTS WON'T THAT WE'LL MAKE THAT COMMITMENT. BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY BE SUPPORTIVE WHERE WE CAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND FOR COUNCIL MEMBER AND I THINK IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT, WE WILL BE CLEANING AT THE JOHN PAUL. I THINK IT'S THE JOHN PAUL PARK AT LAKE RAY HUBBARD. YES. JOHN PAUL JONES. IS THAT IN YOUR DISTRICT? YES. IT'S ON SUNDAY. YES. WHAT TIME? IT'S FROM 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M. OKAY. YES. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. WE LOVE TO SEE YOU AS WELL AS EVEN AFTERWARDS, MAYBE CONNECT TO COME BACK, EVEN IF IT'S JUST TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE DID. HERE'S OUR VOLUNTEERS JUST TO SAY HELLO. IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY. SUNDAY. YEP. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER BOYD WILL BE THERE IF YOU GIVE HIM ONE OF THOSE. GIVE HIM ONE OF THOSE GREAT POLO SHIRTS. 
          OKAY. THOSE ARE. YEAH. WE WILL HAVE VESTS THERE. YEAH. TO ORGANIZE OUR VOLUNTEERS. 
          WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. AND HERE WE CAN GIVE THEM TO. SURE. IF YOU JUST GIVE IT TO THE CITY SECRETARY, SHE'LL THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. 
          MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER? NO MORE SPEAKERS IN THE QUEUE. 
          [ CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA]
NO MORE SPEAKERS. VERY GOOD. THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR ITEMS. FIRST ITEM IS CONSIDERING THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S FOR TOMORROW. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY REQUESTS TO PULL UP ANY ITEMS YET, BUT YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS FOR THAT COUNCIL. FIRST ITEM IS WRITTEN BRIEFINGS, 
          [1. Neighborhood Vitality Matching Grant Funding Request - Fall 2025 Cycle]
NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT FUND REQUESTS FOR THE FALL 2025 CYCLE. SECOND 
          [2. Police Contact Data Report 2025]
BRIEFING ITEM IS POLICE CONTACT DATA REPORT 2025. THIRD ONE IS TAX INCREMENT FINANCING 
          [3. Tax Increment Financing Reinvestment Zone Number Two (TIF #2) Amended Project and Financing Plan]
REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER TWO, AMENDED PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN. AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS 
          [4. Investment Portfolio Report]
INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO REPORT. ALL RIGHT WITH NO QUESTIONS. WE'LL THEN MOVE ON TO OUR 
          [5. Garland Fire Department and RightSite for Non-Emergency Patients]
VERBAL BRIEFINGS. FIRST ITEM IS NUMBER FIVE GARLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND RIGHT SITE FOR NONEMERGENCY PATIENTS. MR. MAYOR COUNCIL CITY MANAGER WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN AGAIN THIS WEEK TO GIVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION ON RIGHT SITE UP HERE. THERE WE GO. 
          CHIEF WEBB IS GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS TONIGHT. ANYTHING THAT HE CAN'T ANSWER FOR YOU I'M HERE. AND LARRY IS HERE TO FILL IN THE BLANKS. SO, CHIEF WEBB, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. MAYOR AND MR. BETZ, AND AGAIN, APPRECIATE FOR HAVING US IN HERE AGAIN TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT OUR CASE FOR DOING BUSINESS WITH RIGHT SIDE. GOT SEVERAL SLIDESHOWS FOR YOU. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS GOING TO SHOW YOU OUR 2025 RUN VOLUME EMS RUN VOLUME. WE RUN OVER 30,000 CALLS A YEAR. ABOUT 7,075% OF THOSE ARE EMS CALLS. SO ROUGHLY ABOUT 21,000 CALLS LAST YEAR FOR EMS DURING THE HOURS OF 600 TO 2200 HOURS, 6:00 IN THE MORNING TO 10:00 AT NIGHT IS WHEN WE RUN 81% OF THOSE CALLS. AND THEN FROM THE HOURS OF 10:00 AT NIGHT TO 6:00 IN THE MORNING IS GOING TO BE THE REMAINDER, 19% OF THOSE CALLS, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT RIGHT SIDE ONLY BEING OPERATING FROM SIX IN THE MORNING TILL TEN AT NIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR CALL VOLUME STARTS DROPPING OFF SHARPLY AT 10:00. NOT ONLY THAT, AFTER 
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10:00, IF I THINK AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING, DOCTOR TICE WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE HOSPITAL LIKE BETWEEN THOSE HOURS? AND IT'S IT'S NOT NEAR AS BUSY. AND A LOT OF THE CALLS THAT WE GET THERE, RIGHT SITE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HANDLE SOME OF WHAT THE PATIENTS NEED BECAUSE SOME OF THE FACILITIES THEY WOULD RECOMMEND ARE CLOSED. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY DO NOT OPERATE AT THAT TIME FRAME. NOW, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN CLAYTON WAS HERE PRESENTING FOR RIGHT SIDE, HE SAID THAT THEY IT'S NOT A NO FOREVER. IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE CALL VOLUME THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DELIVER TO THEM. AND IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, INDICATIVE THAT THEY WILL OPERATE AFTER THOSE HOURS, THEY'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO INTO OPERATE IN THOSE HOURS AS WELL. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION OR CONCERN OR THERE'S BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ROLLOUT PLAN AS FAR AS COMMUNICATIONS. NORMALLY THERE ISN'T MUCH OF A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN WE JUST IMPLEMENTED, AND THEN IT'S ORGANICALLY STARTS TO GROW AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE EARLIER SUGGESTED THAT WE DO SOME TYPE OF COMMUNICATIONS PLAN BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBLE CONNECTED RIGHT SIDE WITH TELEMEDICINE AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT PRESENTED ITSELF. SO THAT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. BUT RIGHT NOW THE PLAN IS JUST TO ROLL IT OUT AND START IMPLEMENTING IT AS THE PUBLIC USES IT. THEY'LL THEY'LL COME TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS AND SEE THE RESULTS. OUR GOAL IS NOT TO INCREASE THE CALL VOLUME FOR DISPATCH, BECAUSE THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS POSED TO ME THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE. WE'LL INITIALLY WILL WE GET MORE CALLS ONCE PEOPLE START LEARNING ABOUT IT? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND YES, THERE'S A CHANCE TO CALL. VOLUME WILL INCREASE. BUT IF YOU REMEMBER RIGHT, WHEN LARRY AND CLAYTON PRESENTED, THE DISPATCHER WILL USUALLY BE ON THE PHONE WITH THEM ABOUT A MINUTE AND A HALF TO THREE MINUTES, AND THEN THEY WILL BE PASSING THEM ON TO TO RIGHT SIDE. SO IT'S NOT LIKIKE THEY'R GOING TO BE ON THE PHONE WITH THEM FOR AN EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME. AND ALSO WITH THE WAY THAT RIGHT SITE WORKS, THEY CAN THEY CHECK IN ON THE PATIENT DURING THE COURSE OF THE WEEK, UP TO TWO WEEKS, WHICH WE BELIEVE WILL DECREASE SOME OF WHAT WE CONSIDER THE FREQUENT FLIERS, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SOMEONE CHECKING ON THEM, EDUCATING THEM AND GETTING THEM THE RESOURCES THAT THEY SO DESPERATELY NEED. INSTEAD OF CALLING 911 FOR EMERGENCY AMBULANCE, WE'RE LOOKING BY USING RIGHT SIDE WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE WILL USE A FRONTLINE IN-SERVICE AMBULANCE FOR NON WHAT WE CONSIDER NON-EMERGENT CALLS, WHICH WOULD LEAVE OUR AMBULANCES IN SERVICE FOR THE EMERGENT CALLS, HEART ATTACKS, DIFFICULTY BREATHING, GUNSHOT WOUNDS, YOU NAME IT, THEY'LL HAVE A AMBULANCE READY TO RESPOND INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT FOR AN OUT OF DISTRICT AMBULANCE BECAUSE THAT IN-DISTRICT AMBULANCE IS ON A NON-EMERGENT CALL. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A BENEFIT OF RIGHT SIDE. RIGHT SIDE IS GOING TO HELP OUR CITIZENS, THE COMMUNITY, GET THE PROPER CARE THEY NEED MORE QUICKLY. AS WE'VE DISCUSSED EARLIER, WE NO LONGER HAVE AN E.R. IN GARLAND. WHEN I STARTED MY CAREER IN 92, WE HAD TWO OF THEM. NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY. SO NOT ONLY DOES OUR RESPONSE TIME INCREASE BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THESE NON-EMERGENCY CALLS, BUT THEN OUR TIME ON TASK INCREASE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TO TAKE OUR PATIENTS, OUR CITIZENS TO OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. AND WITH THAT IS INCREASED RUN VOLUME AT THE HOSPITAL. SO THAT'S AN INCREASED WAIT TIME AT THE HOSPITAL. SO IF WE CAN GET MEDICAL CARE TO THESE NON-EMERGENT PATIENTS IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER, THAT BENEFITS THEM ALL THE WAY AROUND, INSTEAD OF SITTING IN A HOSPITAL THREE, FOUR, FIVE, EVEN SIX HOURS, THEY'RE IN CONTACT WITH A ER PHYSICIAN. AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S NOT A NURSE PRACTITIONER. THERE'S NOT A PA, IT'S AN ER PHYSICIAN. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED AND THEIR NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE MET, WHETHER IT'S PRESCRIPTIONS SENT TO THEIR HOUSE, WHETHER IT'S A A MEDICAL UBER THAT'S SENT TO THEIR HOUSE TO TAKE THEM TO A STANDALONE EMERGENT CARE FACILITY OR DELIVERING THEIR MEDICINES TO THEM. SO THE BENEFIT TO THE CITIZEN IS NUMEROUS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MEDICAL PRIORITY DISPATCH ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IT SHOWS WE GO DOWN ALPHA BRAVO CHARLIE DELTA OMEGA IS THE FIRST ONE, WHICH POSSIBLY THERE'S NO RESNSE AT ALL, BUT IT GOES JUST LIKE THE MILITARY CODES ALPHA, BRAVO, CHARLIE, DELTA ECHO. AND AS YOU CAN TELL AS IT GOES FURTHER DOWN THE ALPHABET IS MORE EXTREME, MORE EMERGENT OF TYPE CALL. WHAT RIGHT SIDE WILL BE FOCUSING ON ARE ALPHA RESPONSES REFERS TO LOW PRIORITY SITUATIONS. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR MAIN FOCUS. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET LARRY DISCUSS HOW IT WORKS. AND THEN I WILL TAKE THE BATON FROM HIM AFTER THAT. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN. SO PATIENTS WILL CALL 911. THE THE DISPATCHERS WILL ASK THEM THE QUESTIONS PROVIDED BY PRO QA. ONCE AN EMT CODE IS DETERMINED, IF IT IS THOSE ALPHAS, OMEGAS, WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, WE DECIDE ON COLLABORATIVELY, RIGHT SIDE WILL BE OFFERED TO THE PATIENT. 
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IT'S A WARM TRANSFER 93% OF PATIENTS ACCEPT, AND THEN THEY'RE MET WITH A SOCIAL NAVIGATOR. WE INSERT A PHONE IN 15 SECONDS OR LESS. ONCE THE NAVIGATOR GETS ON, THEY'LL DO A QUICK INTAKE. AND THEN OUR BOARD CERTIFIED ER PHYSICIAN WILL JUMP ON. WHEN THE PHYSICIAN JUMPS ON, THEY'LL CREATE A CARE PLAN, TRIAGE THE ESCALATE THE SITUATION. 84% OF THOSE PATIENTS GET REDIRECTED TO ALTERNATE SITES, EITHER TELEHEALTH OR URGENT CARE. AND THEN WE HELP BREAK DOWN SOCIAL SOLUTIONS, SOCIAL SOLUTIONS. SO IF PATIENT NEEDS TRANSPORTATION, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT PRESCRIPTION ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE PATIENTS WHO HAVE FOOD INSECURITIES, WE'RE ABLE TO HELP THEM AS WELL AS WELL AS SHELTER. WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE OVER THE COUNTER STUFF THERMOMETERS, PREGNANCY TESTS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. CANES, WHEELCHAIRS. WE ALSO HELP OUR PATIENTS SET UP PRIMARY CARE, PHYSICIAN APPOINTMENTS, SPECIALIST APPOINTMENTS. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE DO. NEXT SLIDE GOES INTO THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE TEAM. AS YOU'LL SEE DOCTOR TYSON HAS MENTIONED TWICE. SO THERE'S A METHOD TO OUR MADNESS. FIRST OF ALL DOCTOR TIES SETS THE PROTOCOLS. WHAT CALLS WE WILL BE OFFLOADING TO RIGHT SITE BECAUSE AS YOU ALL WILL KNOW, WE OPERATE BASICALLY UNDER DOCTOR TIES MEDICAL CONTROL LICENSE. SO HE'S GOT A VESTED INTEREST THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT AND THAT WE HANDLE EVERYTHING ABOVE BOARD. THE DISPATCHER'S RESPONSIBILITY IS GOING TO DO THE INITIAL Q AND A WITH ONE CIVILIAN CALLS NINE ONE. 
          THEY'LL DO A Q&A AND START ASKING THEM QUESTIONS. AND THEN THEY'LL ASK THEM, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO AN ER DOC DOCTOR RIGHT NOW ON THE PHONE? AS I SAID, 93% OF THE PEOPLE THAT CALL IN SAY YES. SO THEY'LL DO THE INITIAL Q AND A, WHICH LASTS, LIKE I SAID, A MINUTE AND A HALF TO THREE MINUTES TOPS. THEY'LL SEND THAT TO THE RIGHT SITE AND INITIATION RIGHT SITE NAVIGATOR WILL COME ON THE LINE AND START DOING A Q AND A WITH THE PATIENT AND MORE. AND THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER, THE ER PHYSICIAN WILL SIGN IN AND START LISTENING TO ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT THE NAVIGATOR ASKED, AND THEN THE DETERMINATION WILL BE MADE. YES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT RIGHT SITE CAN HANDLE. OR IF IT'S SOMETHING OF A LITTLE BIT MORE EMERGENT OF A NATURE, ONCE THE Q AND A GOES INTO FULL PROCESS, THEY'LL SEND IT BACK TO DISPATCH, WHICH VERY FEW COME BACK TO DISPATCH. THE RESPONSIBILITY WILL BE THE MEDICS THAT ACTUALLY GET CALLED OUT TO THE CALLS THAT MAYBE, SAY, A NON-EMERGENT CALL DIDN'T QUITE MEET THE CRITERIA. CRITERIA OF THE Q AND A FROM DISPATCH, AND OUR MEDICS ARRIVE ON SCENE AND START DOING THEIR PATIENT Q&A AND THEY REALIZE, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING RIGHT SITE MAY BE ABLE TOANDLE. THEY'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK THE PATIENT ON SCENE, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK TO AN ER DOCTOR RIGHT NOW? PATIENT WILL SAY YES, THEY'LL INITIATE THAT CONVERSATION. THEY'LL DO THE INITIAL VITAL SIGNS. INITIAL ASSESSMENT. MORE TIMES THAN NOT, THE DOCTOR WILL SAY, HEY, WE GOT IT. Y'ALL CAN GO. THEN THAT'S WHEN WE TRANSFER CARE TO RIGHT SITE. AND THEN OUR MEDICS CLEAR UP AND MAKES THEM AVAILABLE FOR MORE EMERGENT CALLS WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT. AGAIN, DOCTOR, THIS COMES INTO PLAY. HE STARTS MONITORING THE DATA AND THE SUCCESS AND THE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION THAT WE RECEIVE. HE LOOKS AT THE CALLS AND THEY DO A QUALITY CONTROL OF WHAT DISPATCH DOES, WHAT THE MEDICS DO ON SCENE, AND THEN IF IT MEETS HIS SATISFACTION, THEN WE'LL CONTINUE ON DOWN THE ROAD AND I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS ALONG THE WAY. LARRY DID A GOOD JOB OF DESCRIBING HOW THIS WORKS. WE'LL GO OVER IT ONE MORE TIME. END TO END. COMMUNITY MEMBER DECLARES AN EMERGENCY. THEY CALL DISPATCH. DISPATCH FLOWS A NORMAL FOLLOWS A NORMAL FLOW USING MEDICAL PRIORITY DISPATCH PROTOCOLS. THE NAVIGATOR IS CONTACTED. THEY START DOING THEIR Q AND A WITH THE PATIENT. THEY CUE THE DOCTOR IN. THE DOCTOR GAINS A PRIMARY IMPRESSION AND IF IT STAYS ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THE NEIGHBOR TAKES THE NAVIGATOR, TAKES CARE OF ALL THE NEEDS. 
          AND IN THE FOLLOW UP, LIKE WE SAID, RIGHT SITE DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF FOLLOWING UP WITH THE PATIENTS WITHIN A WEEK TO TWO WEEKS. AND WE CAN EVEN HAVE OUR OWN SOCIAL WORKERS, WHICH WE HAVE TWO IN THE CITY. THEY DO FOLLOW UPS AND AS YOU ALL SHOULD, ARE I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF OUR SOCIAL WORKERS HAVE WORKED MIRACLES, MAGIC, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY. THE TWO THAT WE HAVE, WE USE THEM VERY OFTEN AND THEY HAVE DECREASED OUR FREQUENT FLIER PROGRAM BY A LOT, AND THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB EDUCATING OUR CITIZENS. I THINK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH RIGHT SITE, THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDING ANOTHER LAYER TO THE QUALITY OF CARE THAT WE OFFER OUR CITIZENS WITHIN THE CITY OF GARLAND, SAY THE. CALL DOESN'T GET CAUGHT BY DISPATCH, AND IT GOES TO THE FIELD, AND THE FIELD REFERRALS WORK. LIKE I EXPLAINED EARLIER, THE MEDICS ARRIVE ON NORMAL AS NORMAL THEIR PRIMARY IMPRESSION IS ESTABLISHED AND THEY DETERMINE THE BEST AVENUE OR CARE. IS THAT THEM MAINTAINING CARE, OR IS IT GETTING THE PATIENT IN CONTACT WITH THE RIGHT SIDE? THEY LINK IN RIGHT SIDE. THEN ONCE THE 
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DOCTOR COMES ON INTO THE MIX AND THEY DETERMINE THAT THEY CAN TAKE IT, THE MEDICS ARE CLEARED UP AND THEY'RE READY FOR THE NEXT EMERGENCY IN THEIR DISTRICT. THERE'S A QUESTION. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE MOVING VERY QUICKLY WITH PUTTING THIS INTO PLACE. WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS OR CONVERSATIONS WITH RIGHT SIDE FOR A LITTLE OVER TEN MONTHS NOW. SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE VETTING OUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE BACKGROUND, MAKING, YOU KNOW, ASKING ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'RE OPEN TO ALL THESE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE TRUST ME, JUST ABOUT EVERY QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN SENT TO US HAS BEEN ASKED SEVERAL TIMES OVER. SO WHY DO WE WANT WHY ARE WE PUSHING NOW? AS YOU CAN TELL, AS SOME OF OUR CITIZENS HAVE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK, RIGHT SIDE HAS RECEIVED GOOD REVIEWS. 
          THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF NEGATIVE, IF ANY, OUT THERE, NOT IN THERE GAINING TRACTION IN TEXAS LIKE THEY GAINED TRACTION IN GEORGIA. SO NOT YOU KNOW, THEY STARTED WITH SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, WITH ONE OF THE BIGGER CITIES. SAN ANTONIO GAINED HUGE SUCCESS WITH THEM. 
          THEY MOVED ON TO BEAUMONT. THEY'RE IN BUSINESS WITH CARROLLTON. THEY'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH FORT WORTH, A VERBAL AGREEMENT NOW. THEY'RE ALSO IN CONVERSATIONS WITH DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE. SO RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY COULD TAKE US ON PRETTY QUICKLY. THIS IF WE WAIT TOO LONG AND THEY START GETTING INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE AND SOME OF THESE LARGER CITIES, THE RESOURCES ARE GOING TO BE EATEN UP AND WILL BE WILL BE DELAYED. SO AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE PUSHING NOW. 
          THEY'VE GOT THE RESOURCES TO TAKE US ON BOARD. NOW. WE HAVEN'T SEEN A REASON NOT TO DO IT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUSHING TO GO AHEAD. LET'S GET ON BOARD WITH RIGHT SIDE NOW SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THE RISK COST TO THE CITY. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY COST TO THE CITY. IT'S ZERO COST TO THE CITY. AND NOT ONLY THAT, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS GOOD FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS, BUT IT'S EVEN BETTER FOR THE CITIZENS. WE TAKE OFF THIS, YOU KNOW, 9 TO 10 RUNS A SHIFT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN TO RIGHT SIDE. 
          THAT'S THAT'S HUGE ON OUR MEDICS BECAUSE AS WE YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN DUTTON WAS TALKING ABOUT THE 24 HOUR RIDEOUT THAT SHE DID WITH OUR MEDICS AT CENTRAL STATION AND HOW BUSY THEY WERE AND HOW GREAT THEY ARE. AND THEY ARE. AND OUR MEDICS LOVE DOING THEIR JOB. 
          WHAT THEY DON'T REALLY CARE FOR ARE NON-EMERGENT CALLS. THEY KNOW IT'S AN EMERGENCY TO THE CUSTOMER, BUT THEY SIGNED ON AND GOT TRAINED TO HANDLE THE CPR, THE GUNSHOT WOUNDS, THE MAJOR RUNS AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO BE AVAILABLE FOR. IF WE CAN LIGHTEN THEIR LOAD THAT MUCH, IMAGINE HOW MUCH HAPPIER THEY'RE GOING TO BE AND WHAT BETTER SERVICE THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TO OUR CITIZENS BY US BEING ABLE TO TAKE THAT LOAD OFF OF THEM. NOT ONLY THAT, THE VALUE TO THE CITIZENS OF GETTING MEDICAL CARE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH A DOCTOR ON ON THE ON TELADOC INSTEAD OF WAITING 5 OR 6 HOURS IN A HOSPITAL. NOT ONLY THAT, THE COST TO THEM IS DECREASED FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE INSURED, THEIR INSURANCE IS GOING TO PAY, RIGHT? SO IT'S GOING TO USE THEIR INSURANCE, MEDICARE, WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE A CHEAPER COST THAN GOING TO AN ER. SO YOU KNOW FOR THE UNINSURED RIGHT. SITE USES THE FOUNDATION IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT IS FUNDED BY INSURANCE COMPANIES AND HOSPITALS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN THIS PRODUCT, BECAUSE IT DECREASES THEIR COST, BECAUSE THEY'D RATHER PAY A TELADOC BILL OR A STANDALONE ER BILL AS OPPOSED TO A FULLY FUNCTIONAL ER BILL PLUS AN AMBULANCE, TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORT. SO IT'S A WIN WIN ALL THE WAY AROUND. IS IT A PERFECT SYSTEM? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SUCH THING, BUT THERE'S VERY FEW FLAWS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND. AND IF YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION, WHAT IF WE DON'T LIKE THE SERVICE THAT WE RECEIVED? Y'ALL WERE HERE, LARRY OR CLAYTON? I'M SORRY. LARRY CLAYTON EVEN MENTIONED. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE CLAWS TO GET OUT, BUT IF WE WANT TO GET OUT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, WE JUST QUIT TRANSFERRING THE NON-EMERGENCY CALLS TO THEM. EVENTUALLY THEY'LL KIND OF GET THE MESSAGE AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE OUT. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, THEY ARE FOR PROFIT BUSINESS. BUT IF THEY'RE NOT GIVING US WHAT WE NEED, THEN WE JUST START SLOWLY DECREASING THE CALLS THAT WE SEND TO THEM. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, DOCTOR TICE IS THE ONE THAT SETS THE THE GROUND RULES FOR WHAT CALLS. 
          WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO TO RIGHT SIDE. SO NOT SAYING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. I DON'T THINK WE WILL BECAUSE TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAS YET TO BE A CITY THAT OPTED IN WITH RIGHT SIDE THAT OPTED OUT. SO THAT'S THAT'S A HUGE BONUS. THAT'S A HUGE PERK. THAT'S A HUGE POSITIVE FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW. SAY RIGHT SIDE TO SIDES. GARLAND ISN'T FOR THEM THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM ENOUGH CALLS TO MAKE IT WORTH THEIR WHILE. WE JUST GO BACK TO DOING BUSINESS AS WE DID BEFORE, AND I THINK WE DID BUSINESS. WE PROVIDED A VERY GOOD CARE TO OUR CITIZENS. SO AGAIN, FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, THE RISKS ARE MINIMAL. AND I WILL REITERATE IT'S FREE. IT'S GOOD FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND IT'S VERY GOOD FOR OUR CITIZENS. I COULD GO INTO THIS NEXT SLIDE, BUT I THINK I PRETTY MUCH COVERED IT ALREADY. SO I'LL WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ALLOWING US TO COME PRESENT AND PRESENT OUR SIDE FOR RIGHT SIDE. VERY GOOD. HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS HERE. 
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START WITH COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. EXCELLENT INFORMATION. ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. IN MY DISTRICT, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ELDERLY PATIENTS AND THEY'RE PRONE. THEY ARE WALKING AND THEY STUMBLE AND THEY FALL OR THEY THEY WATCH SITTING IN THE DEN WATCHING TV. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THINGS JUST GO HAYWIRE. AND IN THE PAST THEY'VE HAD AMBULANCE SHOW UP. SO FROM A COMMUNICATION STANDPOINT, HOW WOULD THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROGRAM BE BEST COMMUNICATED TO THOSE THAT'S CONSTITUENTS? IF I'M TO UNDERSTAND THIS, HOW HOW WOULD WE BEST COMMUNICATE TO THIS CITIZENS HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKS AND HOW IT IS? YOU KNOW, HOW THAT IT'S EVEN OFFERED TO THEM? YES, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK WE SHOULD COME TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITIZENS IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNICATION MODEL. AS IT'S BEEN STATED BEFORE, A LOT OF THE CITIES DON'T DO ANY COMMUNICATION. THEY JUST ROLL IT OUT AND START DOING IT. SO WE'RE OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS. 
          COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, MY MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO LET OUR ACTIONS SPEAK FOR OUR WORDS. 
          THE THE PERSON THAT THAT FALLS MAY IF THEY'RE INJURED, WE'RE PROBABLY STILL GOING TO SEND AN AMBULANCE. IF SOMEBODY IS SITTING AT HOME AND THEIR STOMACH IS HAS BEEN BOTHERING THEM AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THROWING UP, THEY HAVEN'T HAD EXCESSIVE DIARRHEA, BUT THEY'VE DECIDED IT'S TIME TO GO GET SEEN ABOUT THIS. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GET TO A DOCTOR. 
          SO THE STANDARD IS CALL 911 BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME AND THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM TO THE HOSPITAL IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO GO TO ONE. AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY FOR THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO SIT IN THE WAITING AREA FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THIS PROGRAM ON THAT SAME MY STOMACH HURTS. CALL US RIGHT SIDE MAY BE ABLE TO GET THOSE FOLKS OVER TO AN URGENT CARE CENTER WHERE THEY TELEHEALTH MAY SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO CALL IN A SCRIPT FOR YOU. DO YOU HAVE A WAY TO GO PICK IT UP? NO RIGHT SIDE IS GOING TO SAY, WE'LL MANAGE TO GET THAT SCRIPT DELIVERED TO YOU, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO A FOLLOW UP IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, MAKE SURE THEY'RE TAKING THEIR MEDICINE. AND WHAT OTHER ASSETS DO THEY NEED? WHAT OTHER RESOURCES DO THEY NEED. THEY CAN WORK WITH? CHIEF WEBB SPOKE OF OUR SOCIAL WORKERS. THEY CAN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO OUR SOCIAL WORKER, PASS THAT LINK TO THEM, AND WE CONTINUE THAT FOLLOW UP CARE FOR THEM. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE DON'T ROLL OUT A BIG, BIG ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE'RE DOING THIS RIGHT TYPE PROGRAM. THIS AND THE CAMERAS IN THIS ROOM ARE MORE THAN WHAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CALLS COMING THROUGH DISPATCH, OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE SOME MORE DISPATCHERS. I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PROPERLY FILTER THE CALLS THAT DO COME THROUGH DISPATCH, AND IF IT'S LOW ACUITY, NON-URGENT, NON IMMEDIATELY LIFE THREATENING, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THOSE FOLKS ONLINE WITH AN ER BOARD CERTIFIED PHYSICIAN RIGHT NOW AND GET THEM TO THE, IF YOU WILL, THE RIGHT SITE WITHIN THE RIGHT TIME FRAME. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. JUST JUST AS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION AT THE END OF, LET'S SAY, ONE YEAR, HOW WOULD YOU MEASURE THE IMPACT ON STAFF, ON FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF AS THAT BENEFITS FROM THIS? HOW HOW CAN WE LOOK BACK AT AT THIS PROGRAM AND SAY THAT THIS EFFECT, THAT EFFECT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE CALL VOLUME AND SEE HOW MANY CALLS THAT IT'S TAKEN OFF OF OUR OUR PARAMEDICS CALL VOLUME. YOU KNOW, IF IT TAKES 1%, 2%, 5% OF THE CALL, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG WIN. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO OUR MEDICS. WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, THE ONE OUT THERE DOING THE JOB, BECAUSE I BELIEVE MANY OF Y'ALL KNOW OUR FIREFIGHTERS. THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK UP AND LET YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY THINK. SO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PAY ATTENTION TO THE DATA, PAY ATTENTION TO THE RUN VOLUME, SEE HOW MUCH WE'RE ABLE TO DECREASE THE NON-EMERGENT CALLS THAT OUR MEDICS RUN ON, AND THEN ACTUALLY ASK THEM BECAUSE THEY WILL TELL US, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. HI. DOCTOR TICE WAS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES AND I'M CURIOUS HOW MUCH THIS WILL ADD TO HIS WORKLOAD. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A QUESTION BEST FOR HIM, BUT IF I WAS TO HAVE TO, MY SUSPICION IS IT'LL PROBABLY DECREASE ONCE I MEAN, ON THE FRONT END, HE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, GETTING IT ALL SET IN PLACE, SETTING THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT CALLS HE WILL ALLOW. AND THEN RIGHT SIDE WILL COME IN AND TRAIN OUR DISPATCHERS ON THEIR Q&A PROCESS, AND HE'LL PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. AND THEN ONCE WE START SEEING THE SUCCESS THAT WE BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO SEE, IT'S GOING TO LET HIM. IS HE GOING TO HOLD HIS BREATH? AT FIRST, I HAVE NO 
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DOUBT HE WILL. BUT ONCE HE STARTS SEEING THE SUCCESS FROM RIGHT SIDE AND FROM OUR MEDICS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE FIELD IMPLEMENTATION, HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A STEP BACK. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, CHIEF, IS WHY WE WOULDN'T ANNOUNCE THIS MORE BROADLY THAN TONIGHT. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX FOR A GUY ON THE AMBULANCE. IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN HAVING A GURNEY IN THERE OR BANDAGES OR ANOTHER THING. IT'S JUST NOW WE'VE GOT AN IPAD WITH DIRECT, WITH DIRECT ACCESS TO ACCESS TO AN ER DOCTOR. IT'S JUST ANOTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX. AND SO IF WE WERE ADDING NEW KIND OF BANDAGES TO THE AMBULANCE, WE WOULDN'T ANNOUNCE THAT TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND THAT'S ALL THIS IS, IS ANOTHER TOOL. IS THAT COUCHING IT WHERE I DON'T KNOW, AN ORDINARY GUY LIKE ME CAN UNDERSTAND IT? YES, SIR. THIS IS A TOOL LIKE WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE, THOUGH. THIS WAS A DREAM JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND. IT'S IT'S WORKING AND IT'S TRULY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND KEEPING PEOPLE OUT OF THOSE ERS ALLOWS QUICKER ACCESS FOR THE EMERGENT CARES TO THE ERS. AND SO IT IS A TOOL FOR MEDICS. IT'S A TOOL FOR DISPATCHERS. BUT BUT THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO SUM IT UP. IT'S IT'S SOMETHING IN THE BOX OKAY GOOD. AND THEN LARRY HOW MANY HOW MANY OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS IS THIS IN THAT ARE LARGER THAN GARLAND. SO TO NAME A FEW. WE'RE LIVE WITH SAN ANTONIO. FORT WORTH BEAUMONT IS ABOUT YOUR SIZE. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN CONTRACTING WITH AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY, EL PASO, WE'RE IN DEEP TALKS WITH DALLAS. SO WE'RE IN ALL THE BIG METROS. AND I THINK YOU SAID, OH, MONTGOMERY COUNTY. 
          AND THEN CY-FAIR HOUSTON, THE HOUSTON AREA, LIKE ALL THE HARRIS ISD'S. YEAH, THE HARRIS ISD'S. YEAH. SO GARLAND IS BY NO MEANS THE BIGGEST CITY YOU'VE TRIED THIS ON. YOU'VE BEEN IN THOSE CITIES FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW? OUR LONGEST IS ABOUT THREE YEARS IN THAT SAN ANTONIO, THREE YEARS IN CITIES MUCH, MUCH BIGGER THAN GARLAND. IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING FOR THEM. 
          AND THAT HAS TO BE VERY ENCOURAGING TO, TO TO CHIEF AND OUR STAFF AS TO THIS ISN'T THIS ISN'T SOME EXPERIMENT WE'RE RUNNING ON THE CITY OF GARLAND WHERE IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY WORKS IN MUCH BIGGER CITIES. WE JUST WANT TO BRING IT TO GARLAND, RIGHT? YES, SIR. YEAH. VERY GOOD. OKAY. THAT THAT CERTAINLY CEMENTS IT FOR ME. 
          THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHIEF, I THINK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HIT UPON A VERY GOOD GOLD MINE, SO TO SPEAK, AS IT RELATES TO. I LIKE WHAT THE COUNCILMAN HAS JUST STATED, AND THAT IS YOU ALREADY HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. OUR CITIZENS ARE VERY ELATED TO VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT'S TAKING PLACE ALREADY. AND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING READY TO DO IS ADD A LAYER, INSERT SOMETHING THAT'S EVEN GOING TO HELP US EVEN MORE. I DO HOWEVER, LIKE WHAT YOU STATED WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE CONVERSATION WAS WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET TOGETHER. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THE ROLLOUT ASPECT OF IT. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, I DO KNOW THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO INCREASE YOUR VOLUME, AND THAT MIGHT THIS MAY CREATE A PROBLEM. BUT I DO THINK THAT OUR CITIZENRY NEED TO KNOW. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE AWARE THAT IN THE FUTURE, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, WE'RE LAYING IT OUT THERE FOR THEM. WE'RE TELLING THEM THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE BENEFICIAL FOR US TO AT LEAST HAVE THE DISCUSSION. NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING EXUBERANT OR ELABORATE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON SHOULD WE OR SHOULD WE NOT DO SOMETHING IN THE WAY OF ROLLING IT OUT? BECAUSE I'M TELLING YOU NOW, IT'S BEING ROLLED OUT RIGHT NOW, JUST BEING ON THE ON THE TELEVISION, JUST IT'S BEING ROLLED OUT. BUT AGAIN, I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE CAME TOGETHER, MAYBE AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME. I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO APPROVE THAT. WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT OUR CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW THAT MAN, OUR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND IN ORDER TO BRING THIS PLAN IN. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS TAKING PLACE PRESENTLY. LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. I SEE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, BUT THIS ITEM WILL BE ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW, SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. MOVE 
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NOW TO OUR NEXT ITEM FOR A VERBAL BRIEFING. IT'S ITEM NUMBER SIX. CODE COMPLIANCE, 
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CIVIL CITATION PROGRAM. FOR YEARS. NEXT 111 MR. YES, WE DO HAVE. OH, YES. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BRIAN MORRIS, CODE COMPLIANCE DIRECTOR. WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY. WE WANT TO DISCUSS OUR PROPOSED CIVIL ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN EXCITING NEW TOOL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR EFFICIENCY AND REDUCE STAFF TIME AND OVERALL GOAL OF INCREASING COMPLIANCE, REDUCING COMPLIANCE TIME. SO WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT TOOL AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE MET PREVIOUSLY IN COMMITTEES IN REGARDS TO THIS PROGRAM. WE TALKED ABOUT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. WE MADE SOME REVISIONS BASED ON COUNCIL'S INPUT AND COMMITTEES TO ADJUST THE THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL FEES THAT ARE APPLIED TO IT. SO WE'VE ADJUSTED THOSE FINE AMOUNTS AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BE TO THE LIKING OF THE COUNCIL. SO IN PRIOR MEETINGS, WE'VE DISCUSSED SOME OF THE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PROGRAM, WHICH AGAIN, ULTIMATELY IS TO INCREASE THE APPEAL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO GET QUICKER COMPLIANCE, FASTER RESPONSE TIMES, AND TO GET RESIDENTS IN FRONT OF A HEARING AS QUIUICKLY A POSSIBLE. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT AN EITHER OR SITUATION. SO WE ARE THE CRIMINAL CITATIONS ARE STILL IN EFFECT. THERE'S STILL A POSSIBILITY THIS IS JUST A FASTER, MORE STREAMLINED APPROACH FOR US. BUT WE STILL HAVE THE OPTION FOR CRIMINAL CITATIONS. IT DOES NOT TAKE THE PLACE OF THAT CURRENT NOTICE AND POLICY REQUIREMENTS WILL CONTINUE. WE STILL HAVE DUE PROCESS. THEY WILL STILL RECEIVE NOTICES OF COMPLIANCE, NOTICES OF VIOLATIONS. IT'LL JUST TAKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PATH THAN OUR NORMAL CRIMINAL CITATION PROCESS. THERE'S ALSO A TECHNOLOGICAL COMPONENT. WE ARE WORKING WITH T2 SYSTEMS, AND SO MUCH OF THE WORK THAT WE DISCUSSED WILL BE HANDLED BY A THIRD PARTY. SO THE CITATIONS, THE NOTICES AND THE COLLECTIONS WILL ALL BE HANDLED BY THIRD PARTY VENDORS. SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL STAFF RESOURCES SPENT ON THAT PROCESS. SO VERY, VERY EFFICIENT, VERY QUICK FOR US. AND WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT TOOL FOR US TO GET COMPLIANCE. SO NEXT WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS WE'LL USE. SO THIS IS NOT FOR EVERY VIOLATION. THIS IS FOR VIOLATIONS THAT ARE PLAIN AND OBVIOUS, WHICH CONSTITUTE ABOUT 75 TO 80% OF OUR TOTAL VIOLATIONS. THIS IS THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE READILY VISIBLE, UNSECURED STRUCTURE, THINGS THAT WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE AND SEND THIS TO THE HEARING OFFICER. AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR TESTIMONY, JUST STRICTLY OFF THE PICTURE THAT WE SEND. THEY CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPERTY IS IN VIOLATION OR IT'S NOT. SO ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, ACCESSORY BUILDING MAINTENANCE. WE HAVE CHIP PAINT, ROTTING WOOD, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, FENCE OR SCREENING MAINTENANCE, CLEAR FIRE, LANE OBSTRUCTION. THERE WILL BE SOME DISCRETION. THERE WILL BE SOME OF THESE THAT ARE IN SOME CASES THAT ARE CLEARLY VISIBLE WITH THE PICTURE, SOME THAT MAY NOT BE SO TALL. GRASS IS CLEAR CUT PRETTY MUCH NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, BUT SOME OF THE VIOLATIONS IT WILL DEPEND ON INSPECTOR DISCRETION ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A CANDIDATE FOR CIVIL ENFORCEMENT. CONTINUING ON WITH WITH VIOLATIONS, INOPERABLE VEHICLES, JUNK VEHICLES, MOUNDS OF DIRT, STONE, ROCK, CONCRETE, OPEN WELLS, OUTSIDE AUTO REPAIR, OUTSIDE STORAGE, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW RAW SEWAGE, STAGNANT WATER, OF COURSE, TRASH AND LITTER OUTSIDE, STORAGE AND DEBRIS. THESE ARE THE AGAIN, 75 TO 80% OF OUR VIOLATIONS WILL BE COVERED WITH THE CIVIL CITATION PROCESS. SO AGAIN, WE'RE CUTTING OUR COMPLIANCE TIME AND WE'RE SAVING THE COURTS AND OUR TEAM QUITE A BIT OF TIME AND EFFORT. 
          ALL RIGHT. A FEW MORE VIOLATIONS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NEXT SLIDE. HAZARDOUS ELECTRIC HAZARDOUS ELECTRICAL. ONLY WHEN IT'S SUPER OBVIOUS IF WIRES ARE HANGING AND IT'S 
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CLEAR WE CAN CAPTURE THAT IN A COUPLE OF PICTURES, WE'LL SEND THAT SAME CONCEPT WITH PLUMBING. 
          IF YOU KNOW THE PLUMBING IS COMPLETELY DETACHED, OR YOU HAVE RAW SEWAGE THAT CAN BE VISIBLE IN A PICTURE, THEN OF COURSE THAT WILL MEET THE CRITERIA. SO APPROXIMATELY 45 VIOLATIONS, ALL IN CHAPTER 32, ARE CANDIDATES, POTENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR CIVIL CITATION PROCESS. ALL RIGHT. AND SO NOW TO THE TO THE FEE STRUCTURE. SO HERE'S WHERE WE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS. WE'VE INCREASED JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO LET'S START WITH THE RESIDENTIAL. WE HAVE TWO PATHS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. RESIDENTIAL. OUR FIRST OFFENSE IS GOING TO BE $25 FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE. AGAIN IT'S JUST JUST A JUST T A WARNING JUST TO LET YOU KIND OF GET GET THE ATTENTION OF THE RESIDENT. SECOND OFFENSE GOES UP TO 75. AND THE THIRD OFFENSE, WE TOTAL OUT AT 150 AS THE MAXIMUM FEE. NOW AGAIN THESE ARE THESE CAN BE DAILY FEES SO THEY CAN STACK ON TOP OF EACH OTHER IF WE HAVE THE NEED TO DO SO. BUT THOSE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL FEES. MOVING ON TO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, OUR FIRST OFFENSE IS $100. SO WE'RE TALKING COMMERCIAL. THERE'S A THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT THEY WILL HAVE THESE ARE OUT OF TOWN OWNERS. THEY MAY HAVE MORE AT STAKE, HIGHER VALUE PROPERTIES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE MESSAGE CLEAR TO THEM. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EFFECTIVE, THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO THAT FIRST OFFENSE IS A BIT GHER. 100 FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE, 150 FOR REPEATED OFFENSE, FOR THE SECOND OFFENSE, AND THEN FOR THE THIRD OFFENSE. 
          WE UPPED THAT FEE TO $200 PER OFFENSE. AND AGAIN, THEY CAN BE STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER DAY BY DAY. IF THE IF THE CASE NEEDS THAT ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT, THERE ARE LATE FEES OF $25 AND COLLECTION FEES UP TO 30% OF THE TOTAL OWED. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ALL HANDLED THROUGH AN OUTSIDE PARTY, SO NO ADDITIONAL STAFF RESOURCES ARE SPENT IN COLLECTIONS. AND JUST FOR A COUPLE OF POINTS OF COMPARISON, WE HAVE OUR CRIMINAL COURTS, WHICH IS OUR NORMAL CURRENT STATUS, WHERE FINES REACH UP TO 500 TO $2000 MAX. SO THIS IS A REDUCTION. IT CAN BE A REDUCTION DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S USED. SO THIS AGAIN IS JUST A QUICKER PATH, MORE EFFICIENT PATH FOR US. BUT IT'S IN CONJUNCTION CAN BE USED INTERCHANGEABLY WITH CRIMINAL CITATIONS. BUT WE WOULD LEAN HEAVILY TOWARDS CIVIL. ANOTHER POINT OF COMPARISON IS THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, WHERE WE'RE RIGHT IN LINE WITH THEIR FEES, WHICH IS $35, AND IT INCREASES $85 FOR EACH SUBSEQUENT OCCURRENCE. SO WHY ADD A CIVIL PROCESS? WELL, WE'VE ALLUDED TO IT SO FAR. IT'S FOR US IT COMES DOWN TO EFFICIENCY. IT COMES DOWN TO SAVING RESOURCES FOR CODE STAFF AND COURTS. IT TAKES QUITE A BIT OF EFFORT TO PURSUE A CIVIL A CRIMINAL CITATION. 
          YOU HAVE A PROBABLE CAUSE AFFIDAVIT. YOU HAVE TRIALS, YOU HAVE TESTIMONY. YOU HAVE A LONG PERIOD OF TIME THAT COULD TAKE PLACE. IT COULD TAKE MONTHS BEFORE A CASE, A PROPERTY SEES A CRIMINAL COURT. RIGHT. SO WE'RE TALKING A DIFFERENCE OF MONTHS IN CRIMINAL, TWO WEEKS IN CIVIL. AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE QUICKER WE CAN ATTACH THE VIOLATION TO THE REPERCUSSIONS, THE FASTER WE'LL GET COMPLIANCE. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES THAT WE'VE SEEN WHERE PEOPLE WILL NOT. THEY WILL SAY THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE INITIAL NOTICE OF VIOLATION OR THE SECOND OR THE THIRD, AND THEY'LL COME TO COURT AND SAY, WELL, THE FIRST I HEARD ABOUT IT WAS WHEN I RECEIVED A CITATION. SO SOMETIMES THAT COULD BE TRUE. BUT WE SUSPECT THAT IN MANY CASES THE CITATION IS WHAT GOT THEIR ATTENTION. SO THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT SEEING THAT CITATION IN THEIR MAIL VERSUS AN EIGHT BY 11 NOTICE THAT GETS THEIR ATTENTION QUITE A BIT FASTER. SO WE THINK THIS WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN COMPLIANCE, WHICH IS OUR ULTIMATE GOAL. WE WANT TO HAVE A FASTER COMPLIANCE TURNAROUND. AND WE THINK THAT OUR CIVIL CITATION PROCESS WILL ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL. AND THEN HIGHLIGHT LASTLY, IT'S STILL A BALANCED ENFORCEMENT EFFORT. IF THE CIVIL CITATIONS AREN'T WORKING FOR A PARTICULAR PROPERTY, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE MEANS TO BRING IT BACK TO A CRIMINAL CITATION. WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPTION. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS SLIDE HERE JUST ILLUSTRATES IN A VISUAL FORMAT 
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WHAT OUR PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO A CRIMINAL CITATION VERY LITTLE DEVIATION. SO THEY WILL RECEIVE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. FIRST THEAPPY PATH WE'LL CALL IT PATH A. THEY WILL AGREE THAT THEY'RE IN VIOLATION. BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE. AND THEY WILL PAY THE PAY THE PENALTY. PAY THE FEE. RIGHT. CASE IS CLOSED. THEY CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO CONTEST AND THAT'S PATH B. AND IN THAT CASE THEY CAN REQUEST A HEARING WITH THE HEARING OFFICER WHICH REPORTS AND IS MONITORED BY OUR CITY JUDGES. THAT OFFICER HEARING OFFICER WILL HEAR THE CASE AND MAKE A DECISION. AND SO THAT DECISION WILL EITHER BE NOT LIABLE. IF WE DID NOT PROVE OUR CASE IN THAT PICTURE, THEN THEY WILL CLOSE THE CASE. ALL FINES AND PENALTIES WILL BE DISMISSED AND WE'LL MOVE ON. HOWEVER, IF THEY DO FIND THAT THE RESIDENT OR THE BUSINESS IS LIABLE, THEY'RE FOUND GUILTY. THEY WILL HAVE 31 DAYS IN ORDER TO PAY THE FEES. THEY MAINTAIN THEIR RIGHT TO APPEAL. AND SO THAT APPEAL WOULD GO TO MUNICIPAL COURT. SO WE WILL BE BACK IN THAT MUNICIPAL COURT LOOP. SO THEY'RE STILL IN THE MIX, SO TO SPEAK. AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR NONPAYMENT IF THEY DO NOT PAY THEIR FINES AND PENALTIES. 
          LATE FEES AND COLLECTIONS. ALL RIGHT. AND SO JUST CLOSING OUT. JUST WANT TO GIVE A FEW EXAMPLES OF THE TYPE OF EVIDENCE THAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO THAT HEARING OFFICER. AGAIN, THESE WILL BE HIGHLY VISIBLE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE EASY TO DETECT, EASY TO RULE UPON. SO HIGH GRASS OF COURSE, VERY, VERY VISIBLE. CLEARLY IT'S OVER 12IN. SO WE SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM IN PROSECUTING THESE CASES. SAME FOR TRASH AND BULKY ITEMS. HIGHLY VISIBLE. HARD TO DISPUTE THAT THIS IS A VIOLATION. HERE WE HAVE TRASH AND DEBRIS AGAIN JUST ON A COMMERCIAL LOT. SO SAME PRINCIPLE JUST WITH A HIGHER A HIGHER FEE OF COURSE WILL BE LEVIED ON THIS PROPERTY. LARGE GRAFFITI. HERE. IF YOU NOTICE IN THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT THERE'S A TOOL THAT WE USE THAT MEASURES THE HEIGHT OF ENCROACHMENT. SO THE RULE IS EIGHT FEET FOR SIDEWALKS AND 14FT FOR ALLEYS. AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW ON THAT PICTURE THAT WE'VE USED OUR TOOL TO DISPLAY THAT IT'S OVER THAT 8 FOOT OR 14 FOOT THRESHOLD. ALL RIGHT. AND CLEARLY WE SEE SOME FENCES IN DISREPAIR. ONE RESIDENTIAL ON THE LEFT AND COMMERCIAL ON THE RIGHT. ONE'S LEANING. ONE IS JUST NOT THERE. HERE'S A FUN ONE RIGHT HERE. 
          SEWAGE, RAW SEWAGE COMING OUT OF THE GROUND IN WHAT LOOKS LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S RIGHT IN THE WALKWAY. SO SEWAGE CAN BE TRICKY, BUT THIS ONE IS PRETTY CLEAR CUT. THE CLEAN OFF IS CLEARLY EITHER BEEN TAKEN OFF OR IT'S JUST EXPLODED. AND WE HAVE THE RESULTS RIGHT THERE IN THE PICTURE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY IT'S CLEAR ENOUGH FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT. RIGHT. WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT PICTURE. 
          OF COURSE OUR ONE OF OUR FAVORITES, INOPERABLE VEHICLES AND JUNK MOTOR VEHICLES. IF WE CAN CLEARLY SHOW THAT IT'S IT MEETS THE CRITERIA, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT CIVILLY COMMERCIAL LOT MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR FOCUS FOR US IN IN THE COMING YEAR, RIGHT? THIS IS A MAJOR FOCUS IN OUR CORRIDORS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE PROPERLY STRIPED, PROPERLY MAINTAINED, AND THAT THEY ARE IN GOOD CONDITION. ALL RIGHT. JUST A FEW MORE IMPROPER STORAGE. AGAIN, THE PICTURE IS SAYS A THOUSAND WORDS. IT'S CLEARLY IN VIOLATION HERE. 
          AGAIN, SAME SITUATION. IMPROPER STORAGE OUTSIDE OF A RESIDENCE. IRRIGATION WOULD BE ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOUGH TO PROVE, UNLESS IT'S CLEARLY OBVIOUS THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE. SAME AS WITH THE PLUMBING ISSUE ON THE RIGHT. PLUMBING IS EXPOSED AND WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IF THIS WAS A CASE THAT WE COULD BRING TO OUR HEARING OFFICER. HERE WE HAVE ON THE LEFT WE HAVE SOME ROTTING WOOD ROTTING FASCIA BOARDS THAT WE COULD DISPLAY AND SHOW THAT AS A VIOLATION, AS WELL AS AN UNSECURED BUILDING. OUTSIDE STORAGE AND DISPLAY IN A COMMERCIAL AREA, WHICH IS ALSO AGAINST OUR CITY CODE HERE. IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY RIGHT ABOVE THE SEWER DRAIN, THE STORM DRAIN. WE HAVE A RED NO PARKING LOT, A FIRE, A FIRE 
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LANE. SO WE HAVE A DUMPSTER THAT'S MARKED THAT'S PARKED WHERE IT SHOULD NOT BE. SO WE COULD ALSO SEND THAT ONE UP TO OUR HEARING OFFICER. COMMERCIAL SIGNS. WE KNOW THIS IS A MAJOR ISSUE WITHIN THE CITY. WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THESE OLD DILAPIDATED SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT. SO SO JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE CAN ENFORCE WITH THIS. AS I MENTIONED, BASICALLY IT ENCOMPASSES 75% ROUGHLY OF OUR TOTAL VIOLATIONS. 
          SO A GREAT TOOL FOR US. IT TAKES US FROM WEEKS, FROM MONTHS INTO WEEKS, AS FAR AS GAINING COMPLIANCE AND HAVING SOMEONE COME IN FOR A HEARING. I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE DO ALSO. WE'RE ALSO FOCUSING ON COLD CARE. SO ANY HARDSHIPS, ANYONE THAT HAS A HARDSHIP WITH THESE VIOLATIONS, WE ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS WORK WITH OUR RESIDENTS. SO IF THEY NEED MORE TIME, IF YOU NEED A FEW MORE DAYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THAT IS ALWAYS AN OPTION. 
          DURING OUR PROCESS, IF WE COME ACROSS ANYONE THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE WORKING WITH OUR VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS, WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY WILL ALWAYS MAKE THOSE OPTIONS AVAILABLE. SO WE WILL ALWAYS TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT. FOR THE RECORD, HERE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH A BALCONY THAT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD GIVE WAY AT ANY MOMENT, AND SOME CLEAR ELECTRICAL ISSUES IN THIS CASE. ALL RIGHT. 
          AND SO WITH THAT THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY ANY QUESTIONS. GOT A FEW FOR YOU HERE. START WITH COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON. THANK YOU BRIAN. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT MARGARET AND I HAVE ADVOCATED AND PUSHED FOR FOR YEARS NOW. SO I'M VERY EXCITED WITH THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE, GETTING IT HERE AND GETTING IT IMPLEMENTED. ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO ADDRESS IS ON SOCIAL MEDIA TODAY. THERE WAS KIND OF A LITTLE, A LITTLE UPROAR ABOUT THE HIGH GRASS ASPECT OF IT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE I THINK THAT ON SURFACE LEVEL, PEOPLE THINK THAT THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO HARASS PEOPLE OR JUST TO MAKE MORE MONEY OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. AND THAT'S MOST DEFINITELY NOT IT. YOU TOUCHED ON THE THE CIVIL VERSUS CRIMINAL ASPECT OF THINGS, AND THIS PROGRAM IS NOT INTENDED TO MAKE LIFE HARDER FOR ANYONE. IT IS ACTUALLY IT BENEFITS NOT ONLY THE CITY, IT BENEFITS OUR STAFF, IT BENEFITS OUR RESIDENTS. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST WANT PEOPLE TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE AND TO DO THAT IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND COST EFFICIENT WAY. SO THE HIGH GRASS RIGHT NOW, WHAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS YOU WOULD GET A WARNING LETTER IN THE MAIL. THAT WARNING LETTER HAS A DATE OF COMPLIANCE OR REINSPECTION ON IT. THERE'S ALSO A PHONE NUMBER, WHICH MOST PEOPLE DON'T MAKE IT PAST THAT POINT OF THE LOVE LETTER. THERE IS A PHONE NUMBER FOR YOUR CODE INSPECTOR THAT YOU CAN CALL THEM, AND YOU CAN REACH OUT AND YOU CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM SO THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, TRY TO HELP YOU IF YOU NEED LONGER THAN THE DATE THAT'S ON THERE. IF AT THAT POINT WE GO AND REINSPECT AND YOU HAVEN'T FIXED THE VIOLATION, THEN WE WILL SEND A CREW OUT AND YOU WILL GET CHARGED FOR ABATEMENT, WHICH HAS OTHER ADMINISTRATION FEES ON IT. IT IS QUITE THE BILL THAT YOU ARE. IT IS WELL OVER $25. ON TOP OF THAT, YOU WILL HAVE A LIEN PLACED ON YOUR PROPERTY UNTIL THAT BILL GETS PAID. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 2 TO $500 BILL VERSUS A $25 TICKET JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T. YOU CHOSE NOT TO REACH OUT OR WHATEVER. 
          AND SO THERE'S A VAST DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          WE REALLY JUST WANT PEOPLE TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE, CLEAN UP OUR CITY, MAKE IT PRETTIER. SO THE SOCIAL MEDIA ASPECT WAS IN REFERENCE TO FOLKS WITH NATURAL WILD SCAPES OR NATIVE GARDENS IN THEIR YARD. THAT HAS BEEN A LEARNING CURVE FOR ALL OF US. AND SO I KNOW BRIAN GOT THROWN ON THE ON THE COALS THIS PAST SUMMER AND HAD A REALLY QUICK CRASH COURSE ON ON NATIVE SCAPES. AND OUR CODE, OUR CODE GUYS ARE NOT THEY'RE NOT ARBORISTS. SO THEY MIGHT DRIVE BY AND SEE LIKE, OH, THAT IT JUST LOOKS LIKE HIGH GRASS, RIGHT? UNTIL I MET REBA, I COULD NOT HAVE TOLD YOU WHAT WAS NATIVE. WHAT WAS NOT NATIVE. I ACTUALLY JUST LEARNED WHAT POISON IVY LOOKS LIKE LAST YEAR. OKAY, SO WE CAN'T WE CAN'T EXPECT EVERYONE TO KNOW EVERYTHING. SO IN THE BACKGROUND, BRIAN AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COME UP WITH A 
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PROGRAM TO HELP HELP THAT ASPECT. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COMEFTER PEOPLE WITH NATIVE LAWNS. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE MAKE THAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE GOING FORWARD, SO THAT THE MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE JOINING IN ON HAVING THOSE NATIVE WILD SCAPES AND NATIVE GARDENS, WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT IN THE FUTURE. SO JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. WE'RE NOT COMING FOR YOUR WILD SCAPES. WE ARE NOT COMING FOR YOUR NATIVE GARDENS. 
          WE LOVE THAT WE WE ARE WORKING ON A PROGRAM TO MAKE THAT A PAINLESS PROCESS FOR THE SUMMERS TO COME. AND SO THAT JUST KNOW WE WE LOVE YOUR NATIVE WILD SCAPES. WE'RE NOT COMING FOR YOU, SO JUST BEAR WITH US. WE'RE WE'RE NOT QUITE READY TO ROLL IT OUT TO THE WORLD YET, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME DETAILS TO KIND OF HAMMER OUT AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL GET EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED. AND YOU WON'T GET A $25 TICKET, I PROMISE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. YES, BRIAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I GOT ONE QUESTION. YOU HAD YOUR YOUR FEE SCHEDULE UP THERE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YOU DIDN'T SAY WHAT ARE WE GOING FROM AND TO? YOU DIDN'T SAY, CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME. WHAT IS IT NOW. AND AND THAT'S THE GOAL OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. CAN YOU SHARE THAT WITH US? YES, SIR. SO, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WHERE IT STANDS, WE HAVE OUR CRIMINAL CITATION PROCESS, WHICH CURRENTLY IT'S IT VARIES. IT CAN GO UP TO 500 TO 2000 FOR THE CRIMINAL CITATION. CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A CIVIL CITATION PROCESS IN PLACE. AND SO THIS IS THIS WILL BE A BRAND NEW PROCEDURE FOR US. SO SO INFORMATION ON THE LEFT WILL BE BRAND NEW. YES SIR. ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT. SO WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL ON THE LEFT AND THE COMMERCIAL ON THE RIGHT. BOTH PROGRAMS WILL BE BRAND NEW. OKAY. AND HOW DID YOU HOW DID YOU HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THOSE NUMBERS. SO I THINK WE WHAT WE DID WAS WE BENCHMARKED WE USE CITIES SUCH AS CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE TO LOOK AT WHAT EXISTING ORDINANCES LOOK LIKE. AND SO WE BASED OURS AROUND WHAT NEIGHBORING CITIES HAVE IN PLACE. DO YOU GET ANY FEEDBACK FROM YOUR EITHER RESIDENTIAL OR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY ON THE ON THOSE, OR DID YOU BOTHER TO? NO, SIR. WE HAVE NOT ANY OF THAT MARKET. RIGHT. SO WE'VE WE'VE COME BEFORE COMMITTEE ON A COUPLE OF OCCASIONS. AND SO WE'VE PUT THE PLAN OUT THERE FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND SO WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE LANDED ON A FAIR AND REASONABLE AMOUNT AT THIS POINT. OKAY. THAT'S THE KEY. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY COMPARISON ON THOSE TO WORK WITH FOR THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, WE DID SOME BENCHMARKING OF PEER CITIES. AND SO THAT THAT BENCHMARKING WAS PRESENTED AT THE, AT THE, AT THE, AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE. 
          OKAY. AND SO SO THE END PRODUCT IS WHAT I SEE THERE. YES SIR. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. WILLIAMS. IF I MIGHT ADD, WE I HAD RECOMMENDED THAT WE MODEL THE RESIDENTIAL FEES AFTER THE FEES THAT WE HAD IN PLACE WHEN WE STARTED THE CIVIL VIOLATION PROGRAM FOR PARKING. AND THE REASON THAT I DID THAT IS BECAUSE THE REASON I MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PRESENT THAT WAY, WAS THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, BOTH IN THE PARKING PROGRAM AND IN THE CODE PROGRAM, IS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS. IT'S NOT A REVENUE GENERATING PROGRAM. IT'S A PROGRAM DESIGNED TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND WHAT WE NOTICED WITH THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, EVEN WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, THE FINES WERE LOW, AS THEY ARE HERE, THAT THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT COMPLIANCE FACTOR THAT OCCURRED EVEN WITH A SMALL FINE. THAT IS, IT DIDN'T TAKE A BIG FINE TO GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION AND TO LET THEM COMPLY. AND WE SAW SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT EARLY ON IN THE PARKING PROGRAM WHEN WE WERE DOING VIGOROUS PARKING ENFORCEMENT. WITH THIS FEE STRUCTURE AND WAS ABLE WE'RE ABLE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND SO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I HAD MADE TO THE THE STAFF WAS, WAS WE SHOULD LOOK FOR A FINE AT LEAST EARLY ON TO SEE IF THIS IS ENOUGH OF A FINE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITHOUT BECOMING BURDENSOME, AND CREATING A A FEE THAT THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD THINK THAT WE WERE 
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ATTEMPTING TO GAIN REVENUE FROM. IT'S NOT REALLY A REVENUE PROGRAM. IT'S A PROGRAM DESIGNED TO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL WON'T COST US MONEY TO PAY FOR ITSELF AND WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY. AND, AND I NOTICED ON SOME OF YOUR PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU GOT UP THERE AND INCLUDED, YOU REMINDED ME A COUPLE COUPLE. 
          IT'S A COUPLE OF MY NEIGHBORHOODS UP THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHICH ONE, BUT VACANT PROPERTIES IS, IS HAS BEEN A, A ONE THAT I THINK THE FACT THAT A FEW WEEKS AGO I SENT YOU A PICTURE OF A HOUSE THAT WAS THE DOOR WAS OPEN AND IT WAS VACANT. SO SO I, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP WITH THIS PROGRAM. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 
          THANKS A LOT. YES, SIR. WE HAD A LOT OF A LOT OF, A LOT OF HELP. FOUNDATION WAS LAID WITH THE MARSHALS PARKING PROGRAM AND OUR CITY ATTORNEYS JUST, YOU KNOW, DID A GREAT JOB IN PUTTING THIS TO HELPING US GET THIS TO THIS POINT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. HOPEFULLY YOU DIDN'T SEE YOUR HOUSE ON THAT PICTURE THERE. COUNCILMEMBER MORE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BRIAN. ANDY, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY. I THINK IT IMPORTANT TO ECHO WHAT THE COUNCIL LADY BROUGHT UP INITIALLY, AND THAT WAS THIS PROGRAM IS NOT ONE WHERE WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE CITY. IT IS NOT ONE WHERE WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO HARASS. IT IS NOT ONE WHERE WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO. HURT PEOPLE. IT TRULY IS ONE WHEREBY IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          AND IF YOU LOOKED AT THOSE PICTURES TO HELP WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF CONCERNED ME INITIALLY, AND THEN SHE BROUGHT THAT OUT, THE PIECE OF WHEN WE STOP AND WE LOOK HERE, WE SEE THE FIRST OFFENSE, WHICH MEANS THAT IT SAYS THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WARNING, WHAT HAPPENED TO BEFORE WE GOT TO THE POINT OF THE FIRST OFFENSE? I THINK THAT THAT IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT ALSO BECAUSE AS A FIVE YEAR PRESIDENT OF THE HOA, FOR EXAMPLE, I FOUND THAT OFTENTIMES IF YOU JUST GO TO THE PERSON TO TELL THEM THIS IS THE PROBLEM, IN MANY INSTANCES, THOSE PEOPLE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM. AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO TO THE FIRST OFFENSE, SECOND OFFENSE, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION THEN BECOMES, WOULD YOU SPEAK TO. AND AGAIN, SHE HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN EXPLAINING THAT PIECE. SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE WE GET HERE, BECAUSE WHEN WE GET HERE, IT'S OBVIOUS THIS PERSON JUST HAS NOT TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED PRIOR TO THIS. I THINK IT IMPORTANT FOR OUR PUBLIC TO RECOGNIZE THAT, BECAUSE IT THEN BRINGS HOME THE CASE THAT THIS IS NOT A PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO JUST RAISE MONEY. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. SO PRIOR TO ANY FINES BEING LEVIED, WE'RE STILL GIVING DUE PROCESS TO THE RESIDENTS AND TO THE BUSINESSES. SO NO FINES WILL BE ISSUED UNTIL WE GIVE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. SO THEY WILL HAVE TIME TO CORRECT THE VIOLATION. WHETHER IT'S TIME WHETHER IT'S TIME. YES, SIR. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE OFFFFENSE. IN SOME CASES IT'S SEVEN DAYS TO COMPLY FOR MORE TEDIOUS OFFENSES. MORE SERIOUS OFFENSES, IT MAY BE 14 TO 21 DAYS. AND THEN AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THEY CAN ALWAYS CALL US IF THEY NEED MORE TIME. IF YOU'RE MAKING A GENUINE EFFORT TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, WE WILL ALWAYS, 100% OF THE TIME WORK WITH YOU TO GAIN COMPLIANCE. THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO GAIN COMPLIANCE, NOT TO LEVY FEES AND CITATIONS. SO BEFORE WE GET TO THIS POINT, TO YOUR POINT, SIR, WE WILL AUTOMATICALLY SEND A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. YOU WILL HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH US IF YOU CHOOSE TO AND ONLY AND WE RECEIVE ABOUT 7,580% COMPLIANCE BASED ON NOTICES OF VIOLATIONS, VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. SO WE HAVE A GOOD WE HAVE A GOOD RATE. JUST TO YOUR POINT THAT MOST PEOPLE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING IF YOU SEND THEM NOTICE AND GIVE THEM A WARNING. IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN IN SOME CASES, AFTER THEY'VE GONE PAST THE SEVEN DAYS, THEY GO A MONTH OR SO AND THEN DO THE VERY SAME THING AGAIN. WE GOT SEVEN MORE DAYS AGAIN TO GET THEM. IN OTHER WORDS, I WANT TO JUST ASSURE OUR PUBLIC THAT THIS PROGRAM IS TRULY BEING PUT IN PLACE, NOT AS A POINT OF HARASSMENT, BUT TRULY AS A QUALITY OF LIFE ENHANCEMENT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK, ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, I WENT UP TO OUR CITY 
          [01:15:07]
ATTORNEY AND SAID, WHY? WHY ARE WE DOING THINGS THIS WAY? I'M SO THANKFUL THAT YOU'VE COME IN TO THE CODE DEPARTMENT AND PUSHED FOR THIS AND MADE IT HAPPEN. I REALLY, TRULY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM DO AND FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'VE. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A BIG FAN OF PROACTIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND I JUST I THINK THAT IT CAN TURN A NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND BECAUSE RLLY, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE ARE THE OFFENDERS, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT SUFFER WITH THOSE OFFENSES ARE THE NEIGHBORS. THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY. THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WORRY THAT THE SHED AND THEIR NEIGHBOR'S YARD IS GOING TO FALL INTO THEIRS AND DAMAGE THEIR PROPERTY. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT. I THINK SOMETIMES WE FORGET THAT THERE ARE REALLY PEOPLE SUFFERING, LOOKING AT THINGS OR, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO ENDURE THESE OFFENSES. SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO. I KNOW IT'S HARD SOMETIMES, BUT YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT 100% OF THE TIME NO MATTER WHAT. SO THANK YOU KINDLY. YES OF COURSE. 
          WILL YOU KIND OF GO INTO MORE DETAIL REGARDING THE NONPAYMENT? THERE WAS A A LITTLE CIRCLE THAT SAID IT WOULD GO INTO EITHER CIVIL COURT OR AN INJUNCTION. WILL YOU JUST EXPLAIN KIND OF WHAT THAT MEANS? AND. OR CITY ATTORNEY, WHOMEVER? SO IN THAT CASE, WE'LL, BRIAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, TO HELP US OUT A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS. THE ONES THAT WE'LL FOCUS ON IN THIS WAY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS. WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. FOR THE JUST FROM THIS IN THE PARKING PROGRAM, IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OPTIONS WITH PARKING PROGRAM, MANY OF THESE VIOLATORS ARE HOMESTEAD OWNERS OF PROPERTIES. 
          AND SO THERE'S VERY WE'RE VERY LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS GETTING A JUDGMENT AGAINST A PROPERTY IN THOSE INSTANCES. HOWEVER, FOR RENTAL PROPERTIES, WHICH WE HAVE QUITE A FEW IN GARLAND, AND OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WHO RENT PROPERTIES, NOT ALWAYS, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE WHO RENT PROPERTIES AREN'T GOING TO BE AS INVESTED IN KEEPING THOSE PROPERTIES UP TO CODE AS A PROPERTY OWNER THEMSELVES. AND SO IN THOSE CASES, WE CAN ACTUALLY GET A JUDGMENT ON THESE CIVIL OFFENSES. WE CAN CONVERT IT TO A JUDGMENT IN DISTRICT COURT. AND ACTUALLY, ONCE WE GET ENOUGH MONEY, WE CAN ACTUALLY EXECUTE WHATEVER PROPERTIES ON WHATEVER PERSONAL PROPERTIES ON THE REAL PROPERTY AND UP TO AND INCLUDING IF THE JUDGMENT IS HIGH ENOUGH, ACTUALLY TAKING THE HOUSE TO COURT ORDER. OKAY. YEAH. YOU CAN'T TOW A HOUSE. I MEAN, YOU CAN, BUT IT'S A IT'S A LARGE PROJECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS. AND LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. MAYBE WE PUT A ONE OF THOSE BARNACLES ON THE DOOR LIKE WE HAD FOR OUR PARKING ISSUE. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. 
          YES. SO I WANTED TO STAY ON THIS SLIDE FOR A SECOND. I, I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WARNING LETTER. THAT'S HOW I MY HIGH GRASS. THAT'S HOW I KNOW TO START MY LAWN CONTRACT FOR THE YEAR IS WHEN I GET MY FIRST LETTER FROM THE CITY, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE CURRENT PROCESS VERSUS THE SLIDE WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. DOES THIS SKIP ALL OF THOSE STEPS AND GO RIGHT TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT TODAY? IF WE GET TO THE FINE PROCESS AND THIS KIND OF INTERVENES AND RELIEVES BURDEN ON THE COURT IS THE WAY I'M, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING HERE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO IN GENERAL, IT DOES. IT FOLLOWS OUR CRIMINAL CITATIONS. IT MIRRORS THIS PROCESS PRETTY CLOSELY. RIGHT. SO THEY WILL RECEIVE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. BUT INSTEAD OF THAT INTERMEDIARY BEING THE HEARING OFFICER, IT'S THE MUNICIPAL COURTS. THEY WILL GO TO A PRETRIAL PROCESS. THEY WILL GO SEE THE JUDGE. AND THE JUDGE WILL MAKE THAT DECISION VERSUS THE HEARING OFFICER. SO IN MANY WAYS, IT DOES MIRROR THAT THAT PROCESS PRETTY PRETTY CLOSELY. WITH THE HEARING OFFICER TAKING THE PLACE OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE. OKAY. BUT BUT THAT AND AND THAT LEAVES THE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE FREE FOR MORE OF EGREGIOUS CASES, IF YOU WILL, FREES UP COURT TIME, WHICH IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN ALL OF THAT. IS THAT. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR BENEFITS. YOU KNOW, FIRST BENEFIT, OF COURSE, IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IMPROVING OUR OUR AREAS. BUT A HUGE BENEFIT TO THIS IS THE EFFICIENCY GAIN, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH TALL GRASS CASES AND MINOR QUOTE UNQUOTE, MINOR CODE 
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VIOLATIONS, OUR MUNICIPAL COURTS ARE FREE TO TACKLE MORE COMPLICATED AND COMPLEX ISSUES. 
          OKAY? AND IT SPEEDS UP THEIR PROCESS. IF WE REMOVE 75% OF OUR TALL GRASS JUNK VEHICLE VIOLATIONS, AND IT FREES UP THE CALENDAR TO MOVE MORE EGREGIOUS VIOLATIONS CLOSER, IT BENEFITS BENEFITS THE ENTIRE CITY. YEAH. GOOD, GOOD. I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT MY NEIGHBOR, REBA COLLINS, WHO'S A BIG FAN OF THE WILD NEIGHBORHOODS. THE FIRST TIME I EVER WENT TO REBA'S HOUSE TO STOP BY THERE. SO SHE'S GOT A BIG SHADE TREE, ALL NATURAL GARDEN. AND THEN ON THIS SIDE OF HER SIDEWALK, IT'S ALL LAWN GRASS AND I'M KIND OF LOOKING LIKE THIS. AND THEN I FINALLY SEE HER SIGN THAT SAYS BUTTERFLY GARDEN. AND I REALIZE THAT IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. AND SO DO YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF A PROGRAM, OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO HAVE YOU CONTACT REBA TO HELP YOUR FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIGH GRASS AND WHAT THIS IS A NATURAL GARDEN. THIS IS A BUTTERFLY GARDEN. OR HAVE YOU GOT THAT UNDER CONTROL ALREADY? THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER TOPIC FOR ANOTHER DAY. THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK THERE. THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS THAT PROCESS TO HAPPEN, AND THERE'S A PROCESS THAT GOES WITH IT. IT'S A LITTLE MORE STRINGENT THAN GOING, OH, THAT'S NATIVE. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE PROCESS WHERE WE GET INTO A MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT GETS LOOKED AT, AND SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO UNPACK THAT. I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY PREPARE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT AROUND THAT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A LITTLE IN INTENTIONALLY A LITTLE MORE STRINGENT SO THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T CLAIM MY TALL BERMUDA GRASS IS NATIVE GRASS BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT A BUTTERFLY WILD SCAPE. IT'S JUST TALL GRASS. BERMUDA DOES NOT EAT BUTTERFLIES WELL AT ALL. NOT AT ALL. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU MOR. 
          THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS WILL BE AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THIS WILL BE ON OUR MARCH 3RD REGULAR MEETING FOR FORMAL 
          [7. Acquisition of Improved Real Property Located at 201-225 North 10th Street]
CONSIDERATION. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO NUMBER ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON VERBAL BRIEFINGS. THIS ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT. 201 TO 225 NORTH 10TH STREET. I'M HERE FOR A WHILE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I SCHUSTER, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. TONIGHT, I'M HERE TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL TO ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY. 20122 25 NORTH 10TH STREET. THIS IS A WHOLE BLOCK OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS THE MAP SHOWING THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS IS AGAIN WHOLE BLOCK. IT'S A SIX PARCEL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DCAD AUSTIN WEST STATE STREET AND A 10TH AND 11TH STREET, THIS IS REALLY THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION IS CURRENTLY. WELL, ACTUALLY THEY WERE OFFICES HERE. AGAIN, THIS MAP SHOWS HOW THE DISTANCE TO THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE SHOWN IN THE STAR IS THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE. SO ABOUT THE 4 OR 5 BLOCKS AWAY. 
          HERE IS A BUILDING. THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT 1975. SO AT THE BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS BUILDING AND THEN THE CONSIDERATION, THE 2025 BOND COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED CONTINUE EFFORTS TO LAND THIS LAND ASSEMBLAGE WITHIN THE KEY DEVELOPMENT FOCUSED AREA. 
          DOWNTOWN IS ONE OF THEM. THIS BUILDING IS OWNED BY STATE OF TEXAS, AND AGAIN, A TENANT WAS TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION, WORKFORCE SOLUTION, GREATER DALLAS. THAT'S THE LOCAL ARM. 
          THEY WERE SEEKING A LARGER SPACE AT LEAST PROBABLY THREE, FOUR YEARS. I SENT A COUPLE OPTIONS TO THEM. THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING BECAUSE THIS SPACE IS ABOUT 7000 8000FT■S. THEY WERE LOOKING FOR THE BIGGER SPACE. THE PROPERTY LOCATION OFFERED OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ACTIVATION, ACTIVATING DOWNTOWN SQUARE AND THEN MORE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY. I THINK DANA'S TEAM, A DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT TEAM, HIRED THE CONSULTANT TO DO THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE DOWNTOWN. AN UPCOMING THOSE KEY RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT STUDY AND THE PLAN SHOWING THE RETAIL AND THE RESTAURANT DEMAND IS DRIVEN BY HOUSEHOLD COUNT AND DISPOSASABLE INCOME. 
          WITH THE DOWNTOWN'S CURRENT AND PROJECTED POPULATION SIMPLY CANNOT SUPPORT ADDITIONAL 
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RETAIL SPACES. NOW WE ARE ADDING A LOT OF RESTAURANTS, AND OF COURSE, WE LOVE TO BRING A MORE RETAIL IN A DOWNTOWN, MORE BIGGER DOWNTOWN AREA. WE NEED TO ADD DENSITY AND A MORE RESIDENTIAL. AND THE THE STUDY CALLED, RECOMMENDS UP TO 1800 NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS. ALSO HOUSING STUDY ALSO TELLING US THE DOWNTOWN HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL. SO I THINK THIS THIS PROPERTY IS PROPERTY, HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ADDING MORE DENSITY ON THAT LOCATION. AGAIN, IT'S 1.43 ACRE, AND IF YOU ARE ADDING 100 OR 120 UNITS MULTIFAMILY WITH SOME RETAIL, DEFINITELY WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY FOR A MINIMUM OF 15 MILLION TO $20 MILLION TAX VALUE. OF COURSE, CURRENTLY STATE OF TEXAS OWNS. SO THERE IS ZERO VALUE ON THE PROPERTY. THE BUILDING ITSELF IS 7700FT■S, AGAIN BUILT IN 1975. ZONING IS DOWNTOWN AND UPTOWN SUBDISTRICT. PURCHASE PRICE IS 1.1 MILLION. THIS IS THE STATE OF TEXAS DEED APPRAISAL AND THAT IS THE NUMBER THEY THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR. THAT'S THE PRICE FOR THIS PURCHASE. THE FUNDING SOURCE IS GOING TO BE 2025 BOND. WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU MAY HAVE. COUNCIL I DON'T SEE ANYONE POPPING UP. COUNCILMEMBER BEARD. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS A BLIGHT RIGHT THERE. PARKING LOTS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE, BUILDINGS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE. STATE OF TEXAS ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO UPDATE IT. SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD ACQUISITION FOR US TO HAVE. I THINK FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. IT'S A GOOD PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT'S IN A GOOD LOCATION. AND I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWA WITH THIS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON, HAVE WE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND IT? THAT'S ABOUT TO BE EMPTY. CENTRAL FIRE STATION. AND WHAT WHAT THAT WOULD DEVELOP LIKE BEING RIGHT THERE. IN WHAT WAY? IN TERMS OF UTILIZING IT TOGETHER OR OR OF REPURPOSING IT? EITHER OR JUST MOSTLY ASKING. ARE WE MINDFUL THAT THAT THAT PROPERTY RIGHT THERE ADJACENT TO IT IS GOING TO BE VACANT PROBABLY IN THE NEXT YEAR TOPS. SO WHATEVER WE DO, WE WOULD WANT TO BE MINDFUL BECAUSE WE ALSO OWN THAT PROPERTY. SO SURE. NO, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. DEPENDING ULTIMATELY WHAT THAT FACILITY IS REPURPOSED TO. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A FAIR CONSIDERATION FOR SURE. COUNCIL. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL BE CONSIDERING THIS FORMALLY AT OUR MARCH 3RD REGULAR SESSION MEETING AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND COUNCIL I WANT TO DO ONE MORE SINCE IT IS ALSO A LAND PURCHASE. WE TAKE A BREAK. SO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM 
          [8. Acquisition of Improved Real Property Located at 616-618 North 5th Street]
IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 616 AND 618 NORTH FIFTH STREET. 
          THIS. YEAH. AND THEN YOU CAN COME QUICK QUESTION. YEAH OKAY OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN I ECHO SCHUSTER DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND HERE AMY ROSENTHAL. SHE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE CULTURAL ART DEPARTMENT. AND ALSO CHIP VAN PELT. AND ALSO THEY CAN INTRODUCE THEMSELVES LATER. BUT THEY ARE THE ONE THAT'S REALLY HE IS THE LEADER LEADER OF OUR CULTURAL ART COMMISSION. AND HE IS REALLY CREATIVE MIND BEHIND. SO OKAY. WELL, SO THIS PROPERTY YOU SEE IN THE MAP AND IT'S SHOWING A RED IS SUBJECT PROPERTY 616 NORTH FIFTH STREET. YOU SEE IN THE GREEN. GREEN IS THE DOWNTOWN DART RAIL STATION PARKING LOT. AND PLUS THE BUS TRANSIT STATION AGAIN IS SHOWING. STAR IS THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE. IT'S A OF COURSE YOU SEE THE OUR ATRIUM AND THE GRANVILLE ARTS CENTER AND THE SOUTUTH OF THE DART. THIS IS THE BUILDING. IT WAS BLT IN 1974, BUILT AS AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. 
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AND I TRIED TO FIND HOW IT'S ORIGINALLY BUILT FOR, BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT. BUT ONE POINT SHERMAN WILLIAMS PAINT SHOP WAS THERE. THERE'S A COUPLE PHOTO OF THE CURRENT BUILDING CONDITION FROM OUTSIDE, SOME AERIAL AND THE BACKGROUND AGAIN, 2025 BOND COMMITTEE, WHICH CHIP WAS PART OF THE BOND COMMITTEE. THE RECOMMENDED FUNDING ALLOCATION FOR THE ARTISTS INCUBATOR. AGAIN GARLAND STRENGTH IS THIS CREATIVE MIND UNIQUENESS. SO I THINK IT'S WE THOUGHT IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. THE CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN SEEKING A PERFECT BUILDING AND FOR THIS TYPE OF ARTIST INCUBATOR CONCEPT, AND THIS CONCEPT IS MODELED AFTER SEVERAL OTHERS. AND ONE IS IN TIN DISTRICT IN DALLAS, ELMO ARTS IN AUSTIN. THERE IS A SEVERAL DAYS CONCEPT EXISTS IN LOCAL AREA. SEVERAL PROPERTIES NEAR THE DOWNTOWN HAVE BEEN CONSIDERS PROBABLY THREE FOUR PROPERTY. WE LOOKED AT IT AND THEN SOMETIMES IN A PRICES THE ISSUE LOCATION WAS CHALLENGED. MAYBE RENOVATION COST WAS CHALLENGED. SO WE FINALLY FOUND THIS PROPERTY AGAIN. THIS IS A 616 TO 618. THAT'S THE MARKETING FLIER SHOWING. BUT IT'S THAT BUILDING YOU SAW EARLIER. .78 ACRES, 12,000FT■S, AGAIN BUILT IN 1945, 40, 74, 45, 74. ZONING IS DOWNTOWN AND UPTOWN SUBDISTRICT. ASKING PRICE IS 1.5 MILLION. INITIALLY WE OFFER 1.158 CAME BACK AND A 1.4 WITH THE RECENT. THEIR INVESTMENT ON THE BUILDING PROPERTY OWNER SAID IT'S 1.4 MILLION. SO THAT'S THERE. THEY ACCEPTED NON-BINDING OFFER. SO AMY'S TEAM GOT SOME ESTIMATE FOR THE RENOVATION. IT'S JUST REALLY THE PHASES APPROACH. AND AMY AND CHIP ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU VERY EXCITING PRESENTATION LATER. MY PART IS REALLY NOT EXCITING PIECE, BUT 450,000 750,000. THAT IS REALLY ROUGH ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT. AGAIN, IT IS GOING TO BE FUNDING SOURCE WILL BE 225 BOND. GREAT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR SETTING US UP AGAIN. AMY ROSENTHAL, CULTURAL ARTS DIRECTOR, CHIP VAN PELT'S GARLAND CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, MINE MASTERMIND, GENIUS, CREATIVE VISIONARY, MUSICIAN ALL ALL OF THE ABOVE. SO I'M GOING TO LET CHIP KIND OF KICK OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE BACKGROUND. YEAH. I'LL JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS. WHEN THE 2024 BOND STUDY COMMITTEE IDENTIFIED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS ITS DIRECTIVE, IT OPENED UP A DOOR TO AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. WHAT TRULY DRIVES GROWTH IN MODERN CITIES? ACROSS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, COMMUNITIES ARE INCREASINGLY LEVERAGING THE ARTS AS ECONOMIC ENGINES. THEY DO MORE THAN ENRICH LIVES. THEY ATTRACT VISITORS. THE CULTURAL ARTS, ATTRACT VISITORS, ACTIVATE UNDERUTILIZED AREAS, SPARK INNOVATION AND CREATIVITY, CELEBRATES DIVERSITY, STRENGTHENS CIVIC PRIDE, AND IT CHANGES THE PERCEPTION OF A CITY. AND IMPORTANTLY, THE ARTS GENERATE MEASURABLE ECONOMIC RETURN. I'VE KIND OF I'VE PROBABLY DONE THIS BEFORE YOU BEFORE, BUT IN 2022, THE CITY OF GARLAND AND THE GARLAND CULTURAL ARTS PARTICIPATED IN THE ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY SIX STUDY A NATIONAL, ECONOMIC, ECONOMIC, AND NATIONAL SOCIAL IMPACT STUDY CONDUCTED BY AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS AND THE FINDINGS FOR GARLAND WERE SIGNIFICANT. IN 2022, NONPROFITS AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS, AND THE AUDIENCES GENERATED MORE THAN $18 MILLION IN DIRECT ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN GARLAND. NOW, THAT WAS 2022, JUST RIGHT AFTER THE PANDEMIC, PRIOR TO THE OPENING OF THE NEW SQUARE AND BEFORE THEECENT EXPANSION OF CULTURAL PROGRAMING. THIS KIND OF TRANSLATES INTO AUDIENCES SPENDING AROUND $30 APIECE ON PER EVENT FOR THIS IS NOT TICKET PRICES, THIS IS DINING AND TRAVEL AND AND RETAIL. THE LOCAL ATTENDEES SPENT 26 OVER $26. NON-LOCAL ATTENDEES SPENT OVER $45. AND WHEN IT SAID WHEN THE. THE STUDY SAID LOCAL ATTENDEES THAT COUNTED NOT ONLY DALLAS, BUT COLLIN AND ROCKWALL COUNTIES. SO IT'S NOT JUST GARLAND PROPER, BUT IT'S THE AREA WHEN IT SAYS LOCAL. SO VISITORS SPEND MORE AND THAT MATTERS. SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS 
          [01:35:08]
MEAN FOR GARLAND? IT MEANT IN 2022, THIS GENERATED OVER $660,000 IN LOCAL SALES TAX REVENUE. THAT'S MEASURABLE RETURNS. AND WE HAVE TICKETING DATA FROM FROM THE GRANVILLE AND FROM THE PLAZA THAT SHOWED OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO EVENTS. SO IT'S NOT JUST CULTURAL, IT'S THIS IS THIS IS ECONOMIC. MAGNETISM IS WHAT I IS. SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS WHE YOU HEAR CULTURAL ARTS, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK JUST GREAT SHOW OR BEAUTIFUL ART. I WANT YOU TO THINK, RETURN ON INVESTMENT. THAT'S THE KEY. RETURN ON INVESTMENT. I WANT TO CONSIDER REAL QUICKLY THE THE WHAT HAPPENED IN WEST DALLAS WHEN BUTCH MCGREGOR AND PHIL ROMANO AND STUART FITZ BEGAN PURCHASING THESE OLD BUILDINGS IN WEST DALLAS AND THEY THOUGHT, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THIS PROPERTY, HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE TO COME HERE? THEIR ANSWER WAS, PEOPLE TRAVEL FOR ART AND FOOD. SO THEY DEVELOPED TRINITY GROVES. BUTCH MCGREGOR GREGOR CREATED THE TIN DISTRICT, WHICH HAS BECOME ONE OF DALLAS'S CENTRAL, MOST VIBRANT ART CENTERS. AND SINCE THAT TIME, IN 2024, DEVELOPERS ANNOUNCED A 45 ACRE MIXED USE EXPANSION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN ON SINGLETON IN WEST DALLAS, BUT HOW DIFFERENT IS THAT THAN 15 YEARS AGO? YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S ACTIVATION, THAT'S ACTIVATING A DEAD AREA. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS NOT JUST PURCHASING A BUILDING PROJECT. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARD CREATING A SCALED VERSION OF THAT WEST DALLAS VISION RIGHT HERE. BY DOING ART PLUS FOOD EQUALS FOOT TRAFFIC EQUALS INVESTMENT. THIS ARTIST CENTERED SPACE ON NORTH FIFTH STREET COULD ATTRACT CREATIVES, DRAW REGIONAL VISITORS, ENCOURAGE WALKABLE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH, EXPAND THE DOWNTOWN NORTHWARD, AND SIGNAL OPPORTUNITY TO PRIVATE INVESTORS YOU KNOW, ART WALKS, GALLERY OPENINGS, BLACK BOX THEATER PRODUCTIONS, ART CLASSES, BLOCK PARTIES. THEY'RE NOT JUST CULTURAL AMENITIES. 
          THESE ARE ECONOMIC DRIVERS. SO COMPARED TO LARGE SCALE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, THIS IS A RELATIVELY LOW COST WAY TO STIMULATE MEASURABLE ACTIVITY. CULTURAL ARTS ARE NOT A LUXURY. 
          THEY'RE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH. GARLAND IS ALREADY SEEING THE RETURN. 
          WE'VE SEEN IT. THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER THE ARTS GENERATE IMPACT. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE ARE READY TO INVEST STRATEGICALLY AND ACCELERATE IT. SO LET ME TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT. YOU SAID IT ALL, CHIP. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IF ON FIFTH STREET, RIGHT. WE KNOW WE KNOW WE HAVE PROVEN SUCCESSFUL MODELS. THIS TEAM HAS BEEN TRAVELING AROUND FOR THE PAST ALMOST FOUR YEARS KIND OF LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SITES. AND GARLAND HAS THIS INCREDIBLE STRETCH ON FIFTH STREET OF THESE SPACES THAT COULD BE TRANSFORMED INTO PROPERTIES THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO OUR DOWNTOWN AND ATTRACT VISITORS. AND SO LOCATION MATTERS, JUST AS EVERYBODY HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING ALREADY HAPPENING ON FIFTH STREET THAT'S PRETTY COOL. THERE'S CLAY WORKS THAT HAS CLAY POTTERY STUDIO. THEY HAVE STUDIO SPACE THAT THEY ARE MAKING AVAILABLE TO ARTISTS. SO THAT'S HAPPENING THERE. THERE'S A GREAT ENERGY THAT'S THERE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO FRIDA CAFE LATELY, BUT IT IS PACKED LIKE ALL THE TIME. I MEAN, IT IS JUST GOT FABULOUS ENERGY THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT THERE ON FIFTH STREET. PLUS WE'RE SUPER CLOSE TO WHERE GSM AND GCT HAVE THEIR OFFICES, AND JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE TRACKS IS THE GRANVILLE ARTS CENTER. SO AGAIN, IT'S THAT FIFTH STREET RIGHT DOWN. YOU LOOK STRAIGHT DOWN FIFTH STREET, RIGHT DOWN INTO THE SQUARE. SO LOCATION IS PRETTY IMPORTANT ON THIS. AND AGAIN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. IT'S A DESTINATION RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT ALL THIS COOL ENERGY THAT'S HAPPENING. YOU KNOW IT'S A CATALYST FOR REIMAGINING. THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN AUSTIN IN THE ARTS DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EXTENDING INTO OUR DOWNTOWN. BUT HERE'S THE OTHER THING THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW. LAST YEAR WE HAD 140 INQUIRIES THAT WE HAD TO DECLINE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPACE. SO HAVING ANOTHER BLACK BOX IN OUR PORTFOLIO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACCOMMODATE 
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THOSE INQUIRIES THAT WE'RE HAVING TO TURN AWAY, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT ARE BRINGING PEOPLE TO SEE THINGS. IT ALSOSO DOES SOMETHING ELSE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE RENTALS IN THE PLAZA ON A FRIDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHT. REALLY, THE PLAZA ON A FRIDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHT NEEDS TO BE TICKETED AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO IF WE HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE SPACE THAT WE COULD KIND OF PUT THOSE PRIVATE RENTALS INTO, AGAIN, THAT JUST HELPS US WITH THE WHOLE SYSTEM. AND SO THERE'S THERE'S A LITTLE REVENUE INVOLVED WITH THIS. IT'S NOT COMPLETELY JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LOVE OF ARTS. RIGHT. SO AGAIN, WE DO SEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RENT FOR THE BLACK BOX SPACES. WE SEE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO RENT FOR THE STUDIO SPACES AND SO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. JUST KIND OF AND I THINK THIS IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER, OVER $100,000, JUST ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IN RENTAL REVENUES. AND SO THE OTHER THING THAT IT REALLY HELPS WITH TIMING. SO IT'S LOCATION AND IT'S TIMING, OKAY. WE ARE ABOUT TO UNDERGO THIS INCREDIBLE TRANSFORMATION. IN 27. WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THE BUILDING. OUR ARCHITECT AND THE THE CONTRACTORS SAY GET OUT OF THE BUILDING. WE CAN DO IT FASTER AND MORE COST EFFECTIVELY. SO WE HAVE TEN PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO FIND ANOTHER SPOT FOR. THIS GIVES US A PLACE THAT WE COULD PUT THOSE STAFF FOLKS. WE COULD DEDICATE THAT ENERGY TO REALLY GETTING FIFTH STREET GOING. SO THE TING IS IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. 
          PLUS, THE ARCHITECT SAYS THE BEST USE OF SPACE AT THE GRANVILLE IS NOT OFFICES. RIGHT? GET THOSE OFFICES OUT OF THE GRANVILLE. OPEN THAT SPACE UP FOR REHEARSAL ROOM OR FOR BATHROOMS, ADDITIONAL BATHROOMS. SO THIS POTENTIALLY CAN BE A LONGER TERM HOME FOR THE 3 OR 4 ADMIN STAFF THAT WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THE GRANVILLE. AND SO A LITTLE BIT OF THE FLOW HERE WE ARE TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. WE DO HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW TO GET CONSTRUCTION GOING. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HOPE TO BE IN NEXT YEAR AND THEN REALLY GET THINGS COOKING NEXT YEAR. SO AS AYAKO TALKED ABOUT THE ACQUISITION, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE NUMBERS. HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO LAND SOMEWHERE IN THE 650,000 FOR REMODELING. THERE'S STILL SOME NUMBERS TO BE, YOU KNOW, ACQUIRED. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME REVENUE POSSIBILITIES AND ESPECIALLY TO AS WE TAKE THE GRANVILLE OFFLINE, IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE UP EVERYTHING THAT THE GRANVILLE ARTS CENTER GENERATES IN REVENUE, BUT IT WILL IT WILL DEFINITELY CONTRIBUTE IN SOME FASHION. AND SO FROM A STAFFING POINT STANDPOINT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ADDING ANY FULL TIME STAFF FOR THIS FACILITY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY ADDING SOME TEMP HOURS FROM A CAPITAL STANDPOINT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN OPERATIONS REALLY SEEING OPERATIONAL COSTS KIND OF KICK IN IN FISCAL YEAR 2728. AND SO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I'VE PUT 50,000 ON THAT. I MEAN, THAT IS ABOUT WHAT THE PLAZA COSTS OPERATIONALLY IN A YEAR. SO THINKING ABOUT IT IN THE SAME CAPACITY. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT FOR YOU TONIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU HERE. WE'LL START WITH MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. 
          I'M SO EXCITED I WE'VE BEEN TALKING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AN ARTIST INCUBATOR SINCE I WAS ON THE PARKS BOARD. AND ANDY WAS OVER PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURAL ARTS AT THE TIME. 
          AND THIS IS THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER FOR STAFF AND MYSELF AND OBVIOUSLY THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THIS IS COMING FORWARD. IT'S IT'S JUST SUCH A COOL CONCEPT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT G GARLAND NDS BECAUSE GARLAND IS NEVER GOING TO BE FRISCO. THAT'S JUST THAT'S NOT WHAT WE AIM FOR. 
          GARLAND IS A UNIQUE CITY THAT HAS UNIQUE PEOPLE AND DIVERSITY. AND AND THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT HELPS SHOWCASE THAT. AND IT'S JUST WONDERFUL. SO I'M SUPER EXCITED. THIS IS ADJACENT TO THE CULTURAL THE BANKHEAD CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT. IT'S IN THE IT'S INSIDE OF IT. THAT'S EVEN BETTER. YEAH. WONDERFUL. WE DO HOPE TO ACCESS A GRANT TO I MEAN, PART OF PART OF OUR PLAN WOULD BE AND I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT IT WOULD BE TO ACCESS A GRANT FUND FOR I MEAN, THESE KINDS OF THINGS MAKE THOSE GRANTS VERY EASY TO OBTAIN. SO CONGRATULATIONS. AND I'M REALLY EXCITED. I CAN'T WAIT TO GO AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT BUILDING. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ART. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, CHIP, AMY, ANDY, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I SHARE THE THE ENTHUSIASM ALSO FOR THIS. THIS IS AN EXPANSION OF DOWNTOWN INTO DISTRICT EIGHT, WHICH I'M VERY MUCH FOR THAT. SO THIS IS A VERY WELCOME THING TO GO FROM A SHERWIN SHERWIN WILLIAMS TO A BLACK BOX THEATER AND AN ART INCUBATOR. THIS IS GOING TO BE FANTASTIC. SO I REALLY, REALLY AM EXCITED TO SEE IT GET GET OFF THE GET OFF 
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THE GROUND AND GET GOING. SO ONE THING TO MENTION IS SIDEWALK. THAT ROAD NEEDS A SIDEWALK BIG TIME. THIS IS MORE FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. WE ALL KNOW IT. ANYBODY WHO'S GONE DOWN THAT ROAD HAS BEEN INDUSTRIAL FOR A LONG TIME, UNTIL JUST PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO, MAYBE THREE. WE OPENED FIFTH STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE, AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY STARTED MAKING THIS ALL POSSIBLE. AND NOW HAVING A HAVING A SIDEWALK THAT SO AND STREET LIGHTS. SO IT'S GOING TO BE LIGHT IT ALL UP MAKE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO SEE IT AND FEEL SAFER AT NIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER MORE THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I TOO, VERY EXCITED ABOUT JUST LISTENING. CHIP, IS THAT YOUR NAME? YES. WELCOME TO THE TEAM. CHIP. YOU BRING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ENTHUSIASM AND EXCITEMENT TO THIS THING. THAT, OF COURSE, IS HARD TO BEAT, AMY. AND YOU KNOW, SO BUT AS YOU WERE TALKING, I REALLY GOT EXCITED BECAUSE AS YOU ARE AWARE, I ALSO SERVE ON THE RTC. AND WITH RTC THERE IS A COMPANY THAT IS A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF OURS NOW CALLED DART. AND IF YOU, ANDY, YOU MAY HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THIS ONE. DART HAS THIS PROGRAM, THIS PROGRAM THAT WHERE THEY'RE AROUND STATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU TALK ABOUT GRANT MONEY AND NEW MONEY. THERE'S THE MONEY. THERE'S THE POTENTIAL RIGHT THERE. WE NEED TO BEGIN TO TAP INTO THAT, BECAUSE THAT DISTRICT, WHEN YOU BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT WEST DALLAS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BISHOP ARTS DISTRICT THERE, AS YOU'RE AWARE, I LOVE THE ARTS, OKAY. AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST FANTASTIC, PHENOMENAL ART SYSTEMS GOING. I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN WHAT WE PUT ON HERE. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT, I TRULY THINK THAT YOU WANT TO TAP INTO THAT RESOURCE, BECAUSE DART IS CERTAINLY, AS I SAY, THEY'RE VERY GOOD FRIEND OF OURS NOW. AND AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IN THE FUTURE, THIS IS A VERY GOOD TIME FOR US TO BEGIN TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THEY MAY BE ABLE TO HELP US IN THE WAY OF PROVIDING SOME RESOURURCES AROUND THAT FACILIT, THAT EXETER. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER BASS, THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, GUYS. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. CHIPS. GOOD TO SEE YOU SITTING THERE. YOU WEREN'T NERVOUS AT ALL. YOU DID GREAT. THANK YOU VERY. MY QUESTION IS OF COURSE, AND I APPRECIATE THE ARTS JUST AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE. MY QUESTION IS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF FOR THE FOR THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND LISTENING, YOU KNOW, IN THE LINES OF TRANSPARENCY AND DUE DILIGENCE. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OTHER PROPERTIES YOU LOOKED AT, SPECIFICALLY PROPERTIES WE ALREADY OWN, SUCH AS THE WOMEN'S BUILDING? I'LL JUMP IN. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF PROPERTIES. AND SO THE CHALLENGE WITH A USE LIKE THIS IS A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH TAKING ADVANTAGE OF AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT PRESENTS ITSELF. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDINGS WE LOOKED AT THAT CHIP GOT EXCITED ABOUT AND REALLY CHAMPIONED THIS SOME TIME AGO WAS A GREAT BUILDING. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY. YEAH. AND SO THE IDEA WAS BORN AND WE GOT LIKE, HE'S EVEN GOT RENDERINGS OF IT. SO WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL BUILDINGS ON FIFTH AND AS HE POINTED OUT, SOME WERE EITHER THE PRICE WASN'T RIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS THE INITIAL COST WAS TOO MUCH, AND THE RENOVATION COST WAS WAS GOING TO BE A LOT. SO WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT JUST DIDN'T QUITE FIT. THIS ONE SEEMS TO FIT. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY EXISTING CITY PROPERTIES THAT WOULD FIT. THEY WERE EITHER TOO SMALL OR HAVE A MUCH HIGHER PURPOSE IN THE LONG RUN. 
          IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS ALL CONNECTED. THE FACT THAT THE BOUNDARY INCLUDES THIS AREA FOR THE BANKHEAD WASN'T BY ACCIDENT. ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVE BEEN IN MOTION FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND THEN THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE NEAR HERE. AND YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ONE BRINGING IN THESE DWELLING UNITS ARE GOING TO CATALYZE AND ACTIVATE THIS AREA AND BRING THE ENERGY TO IT. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF PLACES, AND I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THIS PROBABLY WON'T BE THE ONLY ONE. THE UPTOWN SUB ZONING FOR UP HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL NON CONFORMING PROPERTIES, AND THERE'S SOME SUPS THAT ARE PROBABLY COMING TO TO SUNSET SOON. SO THE IDEA IS, IS TO THIS IS THE FIRST DOMINO AND HOPEFULLY A DISTRICT. AND WE COULD FORESEE THIS ENTIRE NORTH FIFTH STREET OVER TIME REALLY TAKING PLACE. WHETHER IT'S US INTERVENING OR OTHER PEOPLE INVESTING THEIR OWN MONEY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT YOU PUT INTO IT. AND I JUST KNOW THE FIRST QUESTION I'M GOING TO GET IS WHY THAT PROPERTY? WHY NOT, YOU KNOW, X, Y, Z BUILDING WE ALREADY OWN. SO AWESOME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT I LIKE THE VISION. I LIKE THE FORESIGHT OF EXPANDING THE DOWNTOWN EFFECTIVE AREA. AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. YES THANK YOU TEAM I, I THANK YOU FOR I REFLECT BACK ON OUR TIME SERVING ON THE BOND STUDY 
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COMMITTEE AND AND TALKING ABOUT THE GRANVILLE AND AND YOU KNOW THAT WE NEEDED TO RENOVATE THAT AND I'M I'M NOT AN ART GUY. I ENVY YOUR TALENT, SIR. I'M AN ENGINEER. BUT ONCE YOU SHOWED ME THE SURVEY THAT SAID WE ONLY NEED $25 MILLION TO THE GRANVILLE, AND IT BRINGS US $18 MILLION A YEAR, ESPECIALLY COMING RIGHT OUT OF COVID, I WAS SOLD. THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER. AND AND I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD A I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THOSE STUDIES ARE DONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE 18 MILLION THAT HASN'T GONE DOWN. THAT NUMBER HAS INCREASED OVER THE TIME AS WE'VE FINISHED THE DOWNTOWN SQUARE THAT'S BROUGHT PEOPLE THAT THEY SAID, OH, YOU'VE GOT AN ART CENTER HERE, LET'S GO. THAT GOT THE PLAZA THEATER HERE, LET'S GO TO SOME OF THAT. AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT DOING NORTH FIFTH STREET. SO I THINK AND COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER BASS TOUCHED ON THIS, THAT THIS IS KIND OF AN ANDY, THE FIRST DOMINO TO FALL IN CREATING THE GARLAND ARTS DISTRICT. AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD CALL IT THE CHIP VAN PELT ARTS DISTRICT IF WE'RE GOING TO NAME IT AFTER SOMEBODY. BUT CERTAINLY WE COULD SEE IF WE DO THIS ONE THEN AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS THIS IS THE NEXT BIG THING. LET'S US BUY THIS BUILDING. WE WE CAN AFFORD TO RENOVATE, BUY THIS ONE. WE CAN AFFORD THE RENOVATIONS. OR MAYBE THE CITY DECIDED THAT WASN'T THE BEST USE OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MONEY. AND SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT USE OF OUR PROPERTY MONEY TO CERTAINLY START THE PROCESS, START THE SEEDS AND WHAT THIS COULD BE. AND FIVE, TEN YEARS FROM NOW COULD REALLY TURN INTO SOMETHING THAT WOULD DRIVE A LOT MORE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY TO INTO THE CITY. AND SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS MOVE. I'M GLAD WE'VE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT. I DIDN'T SEE THE VISION BACK IN THE FALL OF 2024, BUT I AM CERTAINLY WITH YOU NOW. 
          WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, I'M THERE FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR, IN THE QUEUE. BUT YEAH I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC USE OF THIS PROPERTY. I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE PAST, BUT I'M GLAD IT'S FINALLY SEEN. I LOVE THE ART IN THE RENDERINGS WITH THE COWBOY HAT ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. 
          THAT'S THAT'S PERFECT FOR IT. SO WE WILL BE CONSIDERING THIS ITEM ALSO ON OUR MARCH 3RD REGULAR SESSION MEETING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. COUNCIL, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK RIGHT NOW. PLEASE BE BACK AT ALL RIGH. WELCOME BACK TO OUR WORK 
          [9. Transportation, Infrastructure and Mobility (TIM) Committee Report Update ​]
SESSION. WE'LL MOVE NOW ON TO OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS. WE HAVE A FIRST COMMITTEEEE REPORT ITEM NUMBER NINE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE REPORT UPDATE. 
          COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE, SIR. VERY GOOD. SO AT OUR LAST MEETING, THESE FOLKS BROUGHT FORTH A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS HERE THAT WE'VE HAD VERY LITTLE SUCCESS WITH, BUT WE SPENT A TON OF STAFF TIME REALLY, AND IT'S BECOME A WAS OF TIME, HONESTLY. AND SO THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER ELIMINATING AND ELIMINATING FROM THE ORDINANCE, AND THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT. AND I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO STAFF HERE TO SHOW YOU ALL WHY WE ARE MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I AM MICHAEL POLOWCZYK FOR THE RECORD, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. AND THE TWO PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS EVENING ARE THE SAME PRESENTATIONS THAT I MADE TO THE COMMITTEE BACK ON JANUARY 20TH. AND I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION PROGRAM. FOR MOST OF YOU. I THINK MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROGRAM. IT IS A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR YEARS. WE'RE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ARE EXPERIENCING EROSION ISSUES ALONG CREEKS AND STREAMS. THIS IS A PARTICIPATION PROJECT 5050 TYPICALLY WITH MOST RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THAT'S MOST OF THE ONES THAT PARTICIPATE. AND WHAT WE DO IS WE GO OUT IN AREAS THAT ARE THREATENING, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP PICTURE HERE TO THE RIGHT, THERE'S A WALL, THERE'S ACTUALLY A BUILDING UP ON TOP. AND WHAT WE DO IS WE GO IN AND WE ARMOR THESE BANKS IN A PARTICIPATION PROGRAM WHERE THEY PAY 50%. WE PAY 50% TO ARMOR THESE BANKS. THE PROJECTS ARE CONSTRUCTED UTILIZING THE TERM EROSION MITIGATION CONTRACT, WHICH WE BID APPROXIMATELY EVERY THREE YEARS. AND THE PROJECT COST CANNOT EXCEED 50% OF THE TOTAL PROPERTY VALUE. THAT IS ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THIS. SO IF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT'S A $300,000 PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OR THE PROJECT ITSELF CANNOT EXCEED 150,000 TOTAL COST. AGAIN, THE PARTICIPATION AMOUNT WITH RESIDENTIAL, NONPROFIT AND 
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NON RESIDENTIAL IS A 5050 SPLIT. AND THEN COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM AT A 6733 SPLIT, WHICH 67 PAID FOR BY THE COMMERCIAL OR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY AND 33% BY THE CITY. I DO WANT TO ADD THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSUME FULL MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE. AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF THE CONTRACTOR'S MAINTENANCE BOND, SO THIS DOES BECOME OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY OWNER UPON COMPLETION OF THE MAINTENANCE BOND. SO OVER THE LAST 16 YEARS WE HAVE DATA RANGING, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE MAXIMUM COST OF A PROJECT AND THE MINIMUM COST OF A PROJECT IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. THE AVERAGE COST OF THE 12 REQUESTS, AS YOU SEE THERE IN 2010, WAS JUST UNDER $40,000, AND WE HAD EIGHT PARTICIPANTS. AND THEN THERE WAS A PERCENTAGE OF PARTICIPATION ON THE RIGHT OF OF NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS WITH THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT WAS FAIRLY DECENT PARTICIPATION. AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A TELLTALE SIGN IN 2021, JUST SHORTLY AFTER 2020. WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2020. PRICES JUST ESCALATED AFTER THAT, AND WE REBID THE CONTRACT, AND OUR PRICING WENT WAY UP ON THESE PROJECTS AND WE HAD LITTLE TO NO. WELL, WE'VE HAD A FEW THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED SINCE THEN. IN 2025, WE DID HAVE TWO OUT OF SEVEN THIS YEAR THAT WANTED TO PARTICIPATE. AS YOU SEE, IN THE BOTTOM ONE WAS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THEIR TOTAL PROJECT COST WAS 82,000, A LITTLE OVER 82,000. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO A CHURCH JUST OVER 367,000, AND THE AVERAGE TOTAL COST FOR BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS, TOTAL COST FOR AVERAGE IS 224, ALMOST 225,000. NOW, WHAT DOES ALL THIS DATA LOOK LIKE? IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE IN A GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION. OVER THE PAST 16 YEARS, AND IT KIND OF TELLS A STORY. AND AS YOU SEE, BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020, THE AVERAGE COST OF A DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT OR PARTICIPATION PROJECT WAS AROUND 53,000, JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER. AND IT FLUCTUATES EACH YEAR. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ON THE BOTTOM GRAPH, THE AVERAGE COST, IT STEADILY KIND OF CLIMBED A LITTLE BIT YEAR AFTER YEAR, BUT WE STILL HAD A LOT OF PARTICIPATION. AS YOU SEE IN THE BOTTOM. WE HAD 39 PARTICIPANTS OUT OF 78 REQUESTS AT A 50% PARTICIPATION R RATE DURING THOSE YEARS. AFTER 2020, WE REBID THE CONTRACT. THE SAME CONTRACTOR THAT HAD THE PREVIOUS 11 YEARS WAS WAS THE THE SUCCESSFUL CONTRACTOR, AND HIS PRICING WENT EXTREMELY I WHAT, FIVE FIVE FOLD 4 TO 5 TIMES THE AMOUNT AS IT WAS BEFORE WE DID REBID THE THE CONTRACT AGAIN IN 24. WE DO HAVE A NEW CONTRACTOR NOW. IT'S NOT THE SAME ONE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE THE PRICES CAME DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THEY'RE TRENDING DOWNWARD. BUT I DON'T EVER BELIEVE THEY'LL EVER COME BACK DOWN TO WHAT THEY WERE PRE 2021. SO WITH THAT WE HAD IN 21 TO 25, WE HAD THREE PARTICIPANTS OUT OF 51 REQUESTS FOR A TOTAL OF 6% PARTICIPATION RATE DURING THOSE FIVE LAST FIVE YEARS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN 22, 23 AND 24, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE PARTICIPATE AT THAT TIME. SO WHAT? WE CAME TO THE TIM COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER WAS THE AVERAGE COST FOR THE PROJECT HAS PER PROJECT HAS QUADRUPLED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IF NOT ALMOST FIVE TIMES THE AMOUNT. 
          CITY'S AVERAGE COST SHARE PER PROJECT HAS INCREASED FROM ABOUT 26,000 27,000 TO 122,000 FOR THE CITY'S SHARE AND THE STAFF. TIME AS COUNCILMAN THOMAS WAS WAS EXPLAINING AT THE BEGINNING EDUCATING THE INTERESTED PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PROGRAM. WHEN THEY CONTACT US ABOUT THE COST SHARE PARTICIPATION PROGRAM, VISITING THE SITE AND ASSESSING THE FULL LIMITS OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, PREPARING DETAILED OPINIONS OF PROBABLE COSTS FOR INTERESTED OWNERS. A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE OWNERS THAT ARE INTERESTED. THEY'LL SAY THEY'RE INTERESTED. 
          WE GO, WE HIRE A CONSULTANT TO START HELPING US GET A MORE DETAILED COST ESTIMATE. THEY'LL GO ACTUALLY OUT AND MEASURE AND PROVIDE US INFORMATION. THIS IS AT A COST TO THE CITY. AND THEN WE GO BACK TO THE PROPERTY. OWNERS SAY, HERE IS A MORE REALISTIC COST OF THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT YOU'D BE PAYING. AND WE EITHER HEAR FROM US SAY, NOPE, NOPE, I CAN'T AFFORD THAT, OR WE DON'T HEAR FROM THEM AT ALL. AND THE CITY'S EXPENDED FUNDING TO GO PERFORM THESE THIS ADDITIONAL WORK TO BECAUSE THEY WERE INTERESTED. IF THEY ARE INTERESTED, THEN THERE'S 
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PREPARING AGREEMENTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS CONTRACT FOR DESIGN AND IT BECOMES AN ACTUAL PROJECT GEOTECHNICAL INVESTIGATION PLAN SUBMITTAL, REVIEWS. AND THEN WE COORDINATE WITH OUR CONTRACTOR TO GO CONSTRUCT IT. UPON COMPLETION OF THE CONTRACT AND THE CONSTRUCTION, WE COORDINATE WITH OUR ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENTS TO SET UP PAYMENT PLANS. IF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS CHOOSE TO, TO PAY THE CITY BACK OUT THROUGH A PAYMENT PLAN. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO FILING LIENS AND THEN THE RELEASES IN A FEW YEARS WHEN THESE WHEN THEIR COMMITMENT IS PAID FOR DOCUMENTED TIME OR STAFF TIME FOR THIS DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION PROGRAM. AND AS AS I INFORMED YOU EARLIER, 23 AND 24, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARTICIPANTS, BUT IT STILL TOOK, ON THE AVERAGE, ABOUT 160 HOURS OF STAFF TIME. SO ONE MONTH OUT OF THE YEAR IS SPENT WITH A PERSON VISITING PROPERTY OWNERS, TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THE PROGRAM. WITH BASICALLY THOSE TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NO PARTICIPATION 2025. WE DID HAVE THE TWO PROJECTS THIS YEAR, WHICH YOU SEE WE SPENT A FEW MORE HOURS ON. BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE NOT GONE TO CONSTRUCTION YET, SO WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGN AND LEADING TO CONSTRUCTION IN 2026. AS WE MENTIONED TO THE TEM COMMITTEE, WE RECOMMENDED AT THAT TIME TO DISCONTINUE THE PROGRAM DUE TO JUST THE SHEER COST. PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE THESE ISSUES TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE 100 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS LAYING AROUND TO TO PARTICIPATE ANYMORE. THERE'S VERY FEW OF THEM THAT DO. AND WITH THAT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE RECOMMENDING TO DISCONTINUE THE PROGRAM. I DON'T SEE THE COST COMING DOWN ANYTIME SOON, AND I DOUBT THEY EVER WILL. IF ANYTHING, THEY'LL CONTINUE TO STAY RIGHT WHERE THEY'RE AT AND FOR LACK OF A BETTER EXPRESSION, THIS THIS PROGRAM MAYBE HAS SERVED ITS TIME. WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. SO, MR. POLOCZEK, WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE REALLY BIG DRAINAGE PROBLEMS, ESPECIALLY ALONG DUCK CREEK AND SOME OF THOSE SMALLER TRIBUTARIES? AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S THERE'S NOT A. OTHER OTHER THAN THEM JUST DOING SOMETHING ON THEIR OWN TO PROTECT THEIR EROSION ISSUES. THE CITY WE'RE WE'RE WE HAVE THESE CONTRACTS AND WE WE COMPETITIVELY BID THESE. BUT I LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND THEY HAVE THE SAME CONTRACTS. IF YOU GO OUT AND YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, THEY HAVE A VERY SIMILAR CONTRACT WHERE THEY'RE THEY MAY BE THEY'RE MOSTLY DOING EROSION PROTECTION FOR THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE STILL DO THAT USING THIS CONTRACT WHERE, WHERE WE NEED TO THERE MAY BE A STREET THREATENED OR SOME DRAINAGE OUTFALL THREATENED THAT WE NEED TO GO PROTECT, AND WE USE THIS CONTRACT FOR THAT. BUT THE JUST IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THE PRICES HAVE SKYROCKETED. AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. IT'S THE SAME PRICE WHEREVER YOU GO. AND THESE THESE PROPERTY OWNERS, AT SOME POINT THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE WITH THE CITY OR THEY DO, BUT MOST OF THEM JUST DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY. 
          DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? OKAY, I MEAN, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANT TO IS IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF JUST PUTTING IT ON HOLD UNTIL MAYBE PRICES GO DOWN OR REEVALUATING IF, YOU KNOW, WE START GETTING A BUNCH OF REQUESTS. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ME. YES. MR.WENS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. SO IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION OF, SAY YOU HAVE A RETAINING WALL ON THE FRONT OF A PROPERTY. IT'S REALLY NO DIFFERENT WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE PARTICIPATE IN THESE PROGRAMS. THIS IS THE ONLY PROBLEM. THIS IS THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT IS SERVICED BY WHATEVER THIS PROJECT IS. IT IS AN INDIVIDUA PROPERTY THAT BENEFITS FROM PUBLIC RESOURCES. IT'S WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT FROM THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY INSTEAD OF THE BACK SIDE, WHERE WE HAVE THESE RETAINING WALLS ALL OVER THE CITY, IT'S NO DIFFERENT. AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE CONCERNS COME INTO PLAY. AS FAR AS SHOULD WE BE EXPENDING PUBLIC RESOURCES, THAT BENEFITS LITERALLY ONE PROPERTY OWNER. MR. POLACHECK, DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND, AND I UNDERSTAND IF YOU DON'T, HOW MANY OF THE HOMES THAT HAVE REQUESTED OR ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FLOOD PRONE BUYOUT PROGRAM? I 
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WOULDN'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD NOW, THEY DID ALL RECEIVE A LETTER WHEN WE MAILED THEM OUT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE COUNCIL'S WISH WAS TO WHETHER THERE WAS AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THAT, BUT I REMEMBER THERE WAS FLOODPLAIN. IF THERE WAS FLOODPLAIN TOUCHING A PROPERTY, MAYBE NOT EVEN NECESSARILY THE HOME, BUT THE CORNER OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE SENT THEM A LETTER. SO THEY WERE ALL SENT LETTERS. AND AGAIN, THE FIRST BATCH, I THINK WE GOT BACK 20 AND 15 QUALIFIED. AND THEN THE SECOND YEAR, I THINK THE, THE THERE WERE FIVE MORE THAT QUALIFIED. SO TO DATE WE STILL DON'T WE STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT YET ON THE FUNDS. FOR THOSE THAT DID QUALIFY. 
          WE'VE STILL BEEN WAITING. WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR. BUT AS YOU REMEMBER, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN FOR A WHILE, SO THERE'S A DELAY ON THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. YEAH, IF YOU GOT YOUR ON GOT SOME SOME HOMEOWNERS DOWN IN THE RIDGEWOOD AREA. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE BEEN SHORED UP AND THEY BACK UP TO THE, TO THE, THE CREEK. 
          RIGHT. AND DEMONSTRATION. BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE RETAINING WALLS ARE ACTUALLY RAILROAD TIES. 
          OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT RESIDENTS WHO WHO WANT REPLACEMENT TO SHORE UP THAT PART OF THE THE RETAINING WALLS ON THE BACKSIDE? ARE THEY PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM OR ARE THEY JUST OUT IN THE COLD? WELL, AS FAR AS SHORING UP THEIR EXISTING RAILROAD TIE WALLS, THE THE PRODUCTS THAT WE ARE USING ARE THE OUR WRAP BAG OR GABION WALLS. THAT WAS OUR CONTRACT WAS BID ON. WE WILL NOT REPLACE AN ACTUAL RAILROAD TIE WOOD RETAINING WALL BECAUSE THOSE ARE MEANT TO DECAY AND ROT AT SOME POINT. AND SOME OF THEM. AND THAT'S HAPPENING. THAT'S HAPPENING TO SOME OF THEM NOW. RIGHT? YES. SO WHAT SHOULD THEY DO? WELL, RIGHT NOW AS AS OF TONIGHT, WE STILL HAVE THE PROGRAM TO PARTICIPATE. BUT AS, AS CRYSTAL WAS MENTIONING, THESE THESE COSTS ARE GETTING SO OUT OF HAND THAT PROPERTY OWNERS AREN'T. AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND THEY GO, YOU GO TO THEM. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE, BUT DUCK CREEK IS ROUGHLY 20 FOOT, 25 FOOT TALL EMBANKMENT ALONG DUCK CREEK, RIGHT. YOUR WALL IN THAT AREA IS GOING TO EXCEED 150 TO 200,000, RIGHT FOR THE LENGTH OF THEIR, BECAUSE THESE PROPERTIES ARE ALSO WIDE, TOO. FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, MOST OF THEM ARE 100FT WIDE. YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN EXCESS OF PROBABLY A 200, $250,000 PROJECT. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE HALF OF IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, 125 TO $140,000. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, MOST PROPERTY OWNERS, LOOK AT US AND SAID, I DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY, BUT THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. SO SO THIS PROGRAM WOULD NOT. 
          NO, SIR, WOULD NOT ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. NO, SIR. NOT WITH THE RAILROAD TIE OR WOULD E WALL? NO, SIR. DO YOU HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE CONCERNS? WELL, CURRENTLY WE HAVE THIS PROGRAM WHICH WOULD REMOVE THE WALL AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHERE THERE'S A WALL, THE REMOVAL IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE COST FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER SOLELY ON THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT WE INCORPORATE IT INTO OUR PROJECT. THIS IS HOW WE'VE DONE 1 OR 2 OTHERS OVER THE YEARS. AND THEN THE COST TO BUILD NEW WOULD BE A COST PARTICIPATION. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE INCURRING THE COST OF THE REMOVAL OF THE WALL, AND THEN THE CITY WOULD PARTICIPATE IN REBUILDING A NEW ARMORING OF THE BANK. YOU WOULD ARRANGE A PAYMENT PLAN. YES, THERE'S A PAYMENT PLAN AFTER COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT OF ANYWHERE FROM 3 TO 5 YEARS. AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PARTICIPANTS HAVE ANY PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROGRAM AND PAYBACK RATE? BACK FROM 2010 TO 2020, THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT 1 OR 2 THAT ACTUALLY DID THE PARTICIPATION PLAN. MOST OF THEM ACTUALLY PAID LUMP SUM ON THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS. RECENT YEARS. IN 2021, THE ONE THAT WE HAD IN 2021, THAT PERSON PAID. I BELIEVE THEIR THEIR COST WAS 60,000. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. THEY PAID AROUND 30,000 UP FRONT AND THEY PAID 30,000 AT THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. THAT'S HOW THEY PAID THE CITY BACK. AND THEN THE TWO, NOW THAT WE HAVE, THEY HAVEN'T EXPRESSED HOW THEY WANT TO PAY FOR IT. I'M ASSUMING THE 
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CHURCH MIGHT OPT FOR THE PAYMENT PLAN BECAUSE THEIRS IS SO EXPENSIVE. SO THAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING? YES. THAT WOULD DO AWAY WITH OUR SUSPEND. WHICH ONE? WHICH IS IT SPINNING? WELL, WE THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE DISCONTINUATION OF THE PROGRAM. OKAY. UNTIL WHEN? PERMANENTLY. OKAY, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOTWITHSTANDING, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PARTICIPATION OR NONPARTICIPATION. EXCUSE ME. 
          NOW THAT THAT NOT NOTWITHSTANDING WHAT MAY BE THE GOVERNMENT'S PARTICIPATION OR OR NONPARTICIPATION. OKAY, WELL, THE PARTICIPATION I APOLOGIZE. I MAY HAVE CONFUSED THE PARTICIPATION WAS BASED ON THE BUYOUT PROGRAM, THE FLOOD PRONE PROPERTY BUYOUT PROGRAM. AS YOU AND MAYOR PRO TEM LUCHT WAS ASKING ME ABOUT, HOW MANY DO WE KNOW OF THAT HAVE THAT HAVE CALLED IN REQUESTING THIS COULD HAVE BEEN BOUGHT OUT AND MOST OF THEM, AGAIN, PROBABLY ALONG DUCK CREEK THAT HAVE CALLED IN. YES. NOW ALONG THE TRIBUTARIES AND SMALLER CREEKS. I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER. OKAY. I THINK SAME RESPONSE, SAME ANSWER THAT YOU GAVE HER WOULD APPLY IN THIS CASE. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER BEARD OKAY, I'M ON THIS COMMITTEE, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I STILL UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BACK RETAINING WALLS WHICH I LIKE. CRYSTALS. COMPARISON TO FRONT RETAINING WALLS. WHEN WE BUY A HOUSE THAT HAS A RETAINING WALL, WE ARE THEN RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT RETAINING WALL. 
          CORRECT? YES. OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S IN THE FRONT OR IN THE BACK. AND THEN IF WE BUY A HOUSE ON THE CREEK, OUR PROPERTY LINE GOES TO THE MIDDLE OF THE CREEK. IS THAT CORRECT OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT? OUR RESPONSIBILITY GOES TO THE MIDDLE OF THE CREEK. IT DOES VARY, BUT BUT IN A LOT OF CASES, YES. FOR OKAY, FOR THIS SCENARIO, I WOULD SAY YES. IT GOES TO THE SENECA CREEK AND WE ARE USING A WHOLE LOT OF STAFF TIME TO RESEARCH PROJECTS THAT HOMEOWNERS ARE THEN SAYING, I DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE. SO IT'S COSTING THE CITY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MANPOWER HOURS AND PAYROLL HOURS FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT BEING DONE. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO YEAH, THIS WAS A TOUGH ONE FOR ME. BUT AGAIN, WE'VE GOT PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED. IT'S COSTING THE CITY A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. CONTINUE. THE TWO PROGRAMS THAT THE TWO PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND DISCONTINUE THIS ONE AND MAYBE AT A LATER DATE, COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT PROGRAM THAT MAY HELP OUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND START FROM SCRATCH, BECAUSE THIS ONE'S JUST NOT MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS ANYMORE AND COSTING THE CITY A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. BUT YEAH, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT HAPPENS IF THE WHOLE BACKYARD FALLS INTO THE CREEK? WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU BOUGHT A HOUSE ON A CREEK, I'M SORRY TO BE BLUNT ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE ON WATERFRONT. SO AND THAT'S PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF HOMEOWNERSHIP. SO OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD I WAS GONNA WAIT TILL AFTER HER. OKAY. GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD AND STILL UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. SIR. SORRY ABOUT THAT INTERRUPTION, MR. CITY ATTORNEY. I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD JUST A SMALL LEGAL POINT HERE. BACK WHEN THIS PROGRAM WAS APPROVED MANY YEARS AGO, AS AS THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED TONIGHT IN THEIR SLIDES ABOUT THE COST, THERE WAS A LEGAL RISK THEN IN US PARTICIPATING IN ANY PROGRAM USING PUBLIC FUNDS THAT AREN'T GRANTED TO US, EITHER THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR THROUGH THE STATE GOVERNMENT, THAT WE WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION PROVISION THAT PROHIBITS US FROM MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO PRIVATE PROPERTY AND WITHOUT A PUBLIC BENEFIT. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL EXCEPTIONS TO THAT STATE CONSTITUTION PROVISION, ONE BEING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S THE MAIN ONE THAT WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. BUT WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINAY APPROVED AND THE RISKS WERE EXPLAINED BY THAT COUNCIL MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, IT WAS SUCH SMALL AMOUNTS THAT THE RISK WAS A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE THAN NOW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF MONEY AND AND IT MAKES THAT RISK A LITTLE GREATER RISK THAT COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD WHEN THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DECISION ON THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT THE COUNCIL LADY HAS ALREADY STATED ALSO WITH THE 
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CITY ATTORNEY HAS STATED, I WANT THE COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK LIGHTLY. WE REALLY HAD TO STRUGGLE WITH THIS THING OF BRINGING IT TO YOU AND SAYING, WE REALLY DO FEEL THAT THIS IS ONE THAT WE NEED TO. JUST ALLOW TO DIE PRIMARILY AGAIN, BECAUSE WHEN A PERSON BEGINS TO TALK ABOUT US HELPING THEM, THEY DON'T KNOW AT THAT POINT WHAT THE PRICE IS. AND SO THEY JUST ALLOW IT TO PROCEED. BUT THE PROBLEM THEY HAD BECOMES OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WITH ALL THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES. AND I WANT I WANT US TO BE BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT. ALSO, I DON'T THINK TH THIS REALLY IS A MATTER OF US NOT WANTING TO SPEND THE MONEY. IF THE HOMEOWNER WERE CAPABLE AND ABLE OF PUTTING FORTH THEIR PORTION OF IT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY CONTINUE THE PROGRAM. THERE WOULD BE NO WAY THAT WE WOULD EVEN BRING IT TO YOU. BUT BECAUSE TIME AFTER TIME, THE NUMBERS HAVE SHOWN US THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. WE PUT ALL THE STAFF TIME INTO IT, WE PUT ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE INTO IT. AND WHEN IT FINALLY COMES DOWN TO THE NUMBERS, IT IS, IN FACT, THAT IT'S JUST TOO EXORBITANT FOR THE HOMEOWNER TO PARTICIPATE. WITH THAT, OF COURSE, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT MEETING OUR NEEDS ANYMORE. AS A RESULT OF THAT, I HEARD SOMEONE SAY, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? WELL, IF SOMETHING COMES FORWARD IN THE FUTURE THAT ALLOWS US TO REVAMP, TO REINVESTIGATE, THEN WE WILL DO THAT. BUT AT THIS POINT, IT JUST IS NOT IN OUR BEST INTEREST. IT IS NOT IN THE TAXPAYERS BEST INTEREST TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER DENTON, HAVE WE I UNDERSTAND LIKE THE MAIN ARGUMENT FOR GETTING RID OF THE PROGRAM IS THE THE COST FOR US TO GET JUST TO THE ESTIMATE PORTION, RIGHT. SO HAVE WE CONSIDERED DIFFERENT WAYS OF OUR PROCESS WHERE WE CAN LIKE VET OUT PEOPLE THAT AREN'T AS SERIOUS OR MAYBE LIKE, I MEAN, BECAUSE IF I WERE TO CALL YOU TODAY AND SAY I'M INTERESTED IN RETAINING WALL WHATEVER, RIGHT? BEING A PART OF THE PROGRAM, I WOULD NOT HAVE A SINGLE IDEA HOW MUCH THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          RIGHT. SO I WOULD I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULD BE PRETTY CLUELESS AS WELL AS FAR AS THE EXPENSE. SO IS WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL IF WE TOLD PEOPLE UP FRONT, LIKE JUST FYI, IF YOU'VE GOT THIS MANY FEET, YOU ARE LOOKING AT A MINIMUM OF X DOLLARS AND THEN COULD THEY PAY FOR PART OF THE ESTIMATE LIKE EARNEST MONEY? LIKE I WOULD HATE FOR THE PROGRAM TO GO AWAY AND SOMEONE NEED IT AND NOT BE THERE. BUT ALSO, I MEAN, WE WANT TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, SO WE DON'T WANT TO JUST THROW MONEY OUT. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY OUTSIDE OF THE BOX WAYS WE CAN KIND OF ELIMINATE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR PEOPLE THAT GENUINELY MIGHT NOT HAVE A CLUE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST. AND IN THE LAST, DURING THE PAST YEAR, WE HAVE SHORTENED IT. TRY TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE STAFF TIME AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE'VE LOOKED AT WHEN THEY CALL AND CONTACT US A LOT OF TIMES WILL TAKE THEIR NAME AND NUMBER. WE'LL CALL THEM BACK, WE'LL LOOK AT THE MAP, WE'LL GO TO OUR GIS AND WE'LL LOOK AT OUR PROFILES, SEE HOW THE HOW DEEP THE CREEK IS. LOOK AT THEIR AT THE PLAT AND SEE WHAT THE WIDTH OF THEIR PROPERTY IS. WE CAN GET A DECENT ESTIMATE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DETAILED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TAKEN ANY SURVEY SHOTS OR ANYTHING OR ANY MEASUREMENTS OUT ON THE GROUND, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A POCKET OF EROSION. WE'RE JUST LOOKING STRICTLY AT CONTOURS AND WE TRY TO PUT A BEST GUESS ESTIMATE BEFORE WE EVEN START TALKING WITH THEM TO SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY PEOPLE THAT JUST HANG UP, SAID NO, WELL, I'M STILL INTERESTED, SO WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND GET ME MORE DETAILED COSTS? AND THAT'S WHEN WE GO AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONSULTANT PREPARE SOMETHING FOR US. THEY GO OUT, THEY MEASURE, THEY DO A LOT OF EXTRA WORK THAT WE PAY THEM FOR TO GET THAT, THAT BETTER ESTIMATE. BUT WE HAVE GIVEN PEOPLE AGAIN, WE'VE RESULTED IN TWO THIS YEAR. 
          NOW IT WAS A CHURCH ON A VERY LARGE PROJECT AND THEY HAVE FUNDING. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, IF YOU SEE THAT 82,000, IT'S IT'S KIND OF BACK A LOWER ESTIMATE THAN WHAT WAS. AND SO THAT ONE WAS AT LEAST A MORE AFFORDABLE COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE HAD IN, IN MORE RECENT YEARS. SO, BUT AS FAR AS EARNEST MONEY, THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES EARNEST MONEY UP FRONT. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION, I BELIEVE, IF 
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YOU TOLD PEOPLE THAT THEY'D HAVE TO PUT EARNEST MONEY UP, I DON'T I STILL THINK THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY WALK AWAY FROM IT AND I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT. THE POINT OF IT WOULD BE IF YOU HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME AND MY MONEY BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE A STAKE AT IT, RIGHT? SO I WOULD STILL BE OKAY. I WOULD RATHER SOMEONE WALK AWAY FROM IT. I'D RATHER HAVE 100 PEOPLE WALK AWAY AND ONE PERSON BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM IT. 
          THEN THAT ONE PERSON THAT OTHERWISE THEY WOULD JUST THEIR HOUSE WOULD JUST SIT IN, DETERIORATE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER WAY TO, TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS. SO THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE FLOOD, THE FLOOD FUNDING AND IF ANY OF THE HOMES WERE ON THAT FLOODPLAIN. SO WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION, I THINK FLOOD ZONE, I'M THINKING LIKE DUCK CREEK, LIKE THE BIG OBVIOUS GUYS. BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS, LIKE, IS THIS A PROBLEM OUTSIDE OF THOSE MAIN. CREEK AREAS? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, KING CREEK? LIKE, DO WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING EROSION ISSUES OFF OF KING CREEK, THE CITY OF GARLAND HAS APPROXIMATELY 94 MILES OF STREAMS AND CREEKS. MOST A LOT OF THEM ARE DUCK CREEK, ROWLETT CREEK, KING, KING BRANCH. THERE ARE FLOODPLAINS, BUT YES, THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THAT HAVE SMALLER TRIBUTARIES THAT AREN'T MAPPED IN THE FLOODPLAIN THAT ARE HAVING THE EROSION PROBLEMS. YES. ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. AND SO LIKE THOSE THAT HAVE LIKE THAT ARE ON THOSE SMALLER LITTLE, LITTLE CREEKS, THOSE THOSE ARE REPAIRS THAT ARE, I GUESS IN THEORY WOULDN'T BE AS COST IN THEORY. YES. OKAY. REALITY. IT'S DEBATABLE. SURE. 
          SO MY, MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD JUST I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A RHETORICAL QUESTION, BUT HOW MANY OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS KNOW THAT WE EVEN HAVE THIS PROGRAM, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S ON A SMALLER SCALE, IN THEORY, YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR PEOPLE, SOME OTHER PEOPLE. BUT I KNOW WE HAVE A WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT. AND SO THAT WOULD BE I WOULD HATE FOR SOMEONE TO THIS BE THEIR FIRST TIME LEARNING ABOUT THE PROGRAM. AND THEN WE DO AWAY WITH IT AND IT COULD HAVE BENEFITED THEM. SO JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THE ALL OF THE ASPECTS. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU MA'AM. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE BUT THIS THIS PROGRAM HAS ALWAYS BOTHERED ME. LIKE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, TO THE BENEFIT OF A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL. UNLIKE OUR SIDEWALK PARTICIPATION PROGRAM, WHERE IF I REDO MY SIDEWALK AND I SHARE IN THAT COST, ALL THE PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS EVERY DAY BY THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE GET TO USE AND ENJOY THAT BENEFIT. THIS IF IT'S AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER. BUT IF THAT NEIGHBOR ON EITHER SIDE DOES DOESN'T DO UPGRADES TO THEM, YOUR WALL STILL IS IN DANGER OF COLLAPSING IN THE FUTURE JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T REINFORCED THEIR BANK. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATELY UNFORTUNATE CASE OF LIVING ON A CREEK AND HAVING A PROPERTY THERE. BUT I'M IN SUPPORT OF GETTING RID OF THIS PROGRAM AS WELL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COST GOING SKY HIGH AND THE RISK INCREASING TO THE CITY. SO COUNCIL, I'M LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON ENDING THIS PROGRAM. THAT IS EIGHT IN FAVOR. 
          VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM SIR. AND MOVE ON. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ALLEY. PETITION PROGRAM. 
          AS COUNCIL MAY REMEMBER, I GAVE A PRESENTATION BACK IN FEBRUARY OF JANUARY, FEBRUARY OF 25 CONCERNING THE ALLEY PETITION PROGRAM. WE HAVE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 20 YEARS, WE HAD A PROPERTY OWNER THAT WAS INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING A PETITION FOR SOME OF YOU. AND I BELIEVE, COUNCILMAN THOMAS, YOU MAY OR MAY BE THE ONLY ONE THAT WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME, BUT A PETITION IS FOR AN UNIMPROVED ALLEY LIKE YOU SEE IN THE IN THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT. IT IS AN DIRT ALLEY, BASICALLY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER EXPRESSION AND A PROPERTY OWNER OR PROPERTY OWNERS CAN CALL INTO THE CITY AND REQUEST A PETITION WHERE THEY COULD GO OUT AND OBTAIN SUPPORT FROM THE PROPERTY, THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THEIR ALLEY PAVED, AND IT'S ON A COST PARTICIPATION PROGRAM SIMILAR TO THE DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION PROJECT. THE PETITION REQUIRES 51% OR MORE OF THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS, 
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OR 51% OF THE OWNER. SIGNATURES OF THE ABUTTING FRONTAGE. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS 51% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS. IF YOU HAVE TEN ON EACH SIDE OF THE ALLEY, YOU NEED 11. THAT'S SIMPLY STATED, THAT'S 55%. SO THEN ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE ABUTTING FRONTAGE, TYPICALLY THE CORNER LOTS THAT ARE AT THE END OF AN ALLEY TYPICALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROPERTY. 
          THEY MAY BE 80FT INSTEAD OF 65FT. AND SO THERE'S MORE FRONTAGE ON THOSE. IF YOU GET MORE OF THEM TO SIGN UP, YOU CAN ACHIEVE YOUR 51% OF THE FRONTAGE WITHOUT HAVING THE FULL 51% OF THE SIGNATURES. SO THEY CALL IN, THEY REQUEST A TALK TO US ABOUT THE PROGRAM. 
          WE CAN USUALLY GIVE THEM AN ESTIMATED VALUE FROM FROM THE ONES THAT WE'VE CALCULATED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS ABOUT WHAT IT WILL COST TO PAVE THAT ALLEY. AND IT'S A 33, WELL, ONE THIRD, ONE THIRD, ONE THIRD SPLIT. EACH SIDE OF THE ALLEY PAYS ONE THIRD OF THEIR FRONTAGE, AND THEN THE CITY PAYS A THIRD OF THE FRONTAGE. AND NOW I WILL SAY THIS, THAT THAT GIVES THEM AT LEAST A STARTING POINT. IT CAN FLUCTUATE BASED ON. IS THERE A DRAINAGE NECESSARY IN THIS ALLEY? IS THERE OTHER LITTLE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO CONSIDER IN THIS ALLEY FOR CONSTRUCTION? BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE GET IN, WE WE GET WITHIN THE BALLPARK, WE CALCULATE AN OPINION OF PROBABLE CAUSE. WE PREPARE A PETITION. IN PREPARING THE PETITION, WE GO OUT TO DALLAS COUNTY RECORDS. WE WE DOWNLOAD ALL THE INFORMATION FOR EACH PROPERTY ON THE OWNERSHIP BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE THE OWNER. IT CANNOT BE A TENANT LIVING IN A HOME. IT HAS TO BE THE OWNER THAT THAT HAS TO SIGN OFF ON THIS. AND WE WE IMPORT THAT INTO A DATABASE OR HAND ENTER ALL THAT INTO A DATABASE. AND THEN WE CREATE THE PETITION THAT WE SEND BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. IT'S UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO GO GET THE SIGNATURES ON THE PETITION. IF IF THERE IS AN ABSENTEE LANDOWNER THAT LEASES THE PROPERTY, THEY'LL HAVE TO MAIL THE THE PETITION OR A COPY OF THE PETITION TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER FOR THEIR SIGNATURE AND IN RETURN RECEIVE THE SIGNATURE BACK. IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE GO TO PREPARING AS WE DID THIS LAST SPRING. DETERMINATION OF NECESSITY FOR THE PROJECT WHERE THE COUNCIL VOTES THAT THIS PROJECT IS NECESSARY, THAT WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL PETITION AND THAT IT'S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THREE WEEKS OF ADVERTISING, AND THEN WE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR LEVYING THE ASSESSMENTS. AND I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE OWNERS ASSESSMENTS MAY NOT EXCEED THE ENHANCED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. AND THAT'S KIND OF KEY. AND I'LL SHOW YOU HERE WHAT I'M MEETING ON THE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. BUT THIS IS OPEN TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM IS STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL ONLY. ACCORDING TO OUR ORDINANCE, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES CANNOT ACCESS OFF OF ALLEYS THAT SHARE WITH RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. NOW, THERE ARE SPECIAL CASES AROUND THE CITY WHERE THEY DO, AND SOME OF THEM ARE UNIMPROVED AND SOME OF THEM ARE IMPROVED. 
          THERE ARE A FEW FROM WAY BACK WHEN THAT THAT SHARE ALLEYS AGAIN. THE LAST 20 YEAR HISTORY, THE CITY'S RECEIVED 95 INQUIRIES SINCE 2005, AND THE CITY'S RESEARCHED AND PREPARED AND PROVIDED 24 PETITIONS OF THOSE 95. AND WE RECEIVED ONE SUCCESSFUL PETITION LAST YEAR. 
          CURRENT SUCCESSFUL PETITION, WHICH IS OFF TO THE RIGHT. MOST OF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS ON THE AGENDA. THE SCHOOL STREET ALLEY. THERE'S ONLY THREE PROPERTY OWNERS, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS. THE REST, ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ARE THE TWO PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ARE COMMERCIAL AND THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS COMMERCIAL. SO WHEN I MENTIONED EARLIER, LIMITING AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, THE TOTAL COST FOR THIS DESIGN APPRAISAL, APPRAISALS, OPK, WHICH IS THE PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COST, COMES TO A GRAND TOTAL OF $102,224. THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE CITY STAFF TIME OR GPO RELOCATIONS PROJECT INCLUDED ONLY THREE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND OF COURSE, THE FOUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES SURROUNDING IT DO NOT QUALIFY. THE TOTAL ASSESSMENTS, WHICH WERE LIMITED BY ENHANCEMENT, COMES TO A GRAND TOTAL OF $23,909.02, OR APPROXIMATELY 23.4% OF THIS ALLEY. OF THE 102,000. AND SO THE CITY WILL BE FRONTING THE YOU KNOW, TO PAVE THIS ALLEY, THE CITY WILL BE PAYING 76% OF THIS ALLEY, NOT THE ONE THIRD, ONE THIRD, ONE THIRD SHARE LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE. AND AND THIS WAS ALL BROUGHT UP BACK, BACK WHEN WE HAD THE THE MEETING IN IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR. I DID PRORATE I TOOK THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD AND I 
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PRORATED IF ALL OF THESE HAD FOUR PROPERTIES FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON EACH SIDE, AND WHAT WOULD THAT COME OUT TO BE WITH THE LIMIT OF ENHANCEMENT? AND I CALCULATED THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD ACTUALLY PAY IF THESE WERE ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD PAY AROUND 52% IN THE CITY, WOULD PAY 48% IF THESE WERE ALL RESIDENTIAL. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THE ENHANCEMENT STUDY WOULD LIMIT THE TOTAL COST ON THE ON THE ASSESSMENTS. SO AGAIN, WE WENT WE CAME BACK TO THE TIM COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATIONS. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS ONE KEY IS WE'VE HAD ONE SUCCESSFUL ALLEY PETITION SUBMITTED AFTER 95 INQUIRIES ALMOST FOR OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS, ALMOST 21 YEARS NOW, STAFF TIME SPENT PREPARING DETAILED OPINION AND PROBABLE CAUSE INCLUDING ENGINEERING, DRAINAGE, APPRAISALS, CONSTRUCTION AND PREPARING THE PETITION FOR SIGNATURES. IN SOME CASES, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER OF A LIFT FOR THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO GO GATHER TO PUT INTO A PETITION, THEN, THEN EVEN SOME OF THE DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION. THERE'S ASSESSMENTS LIMITED BY ENHANCEMENT VALUES TYPICALLY RESULTS WITH THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION EXCEEDING THE 33% AND THE CITY'S OWNERSHIP OF THE ALLEY IN PERPETUITY. WE NOW OWN THIS ALLEY. WE ARE NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT IN THE FUTURE. AND IN LIGHT OF THE 2025 BOND PROGRAM, WHERE WE JUST WHERE THE CITY ALLOCATED 210 MILLION TOWARDS REPLACEMENT AND REPAIRS OF EXISTING STREETS AND ALLEYS, WE ARE ADDING TO THAT INVENTORY NOW. AND I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG. 
          FEATHER IN THE CAP TO GET THAT FUNDING. SO THAT SO THAT WE CAN GO REPLACE THE ALLEYS AND STREETS THAT WE CAN'T WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO KEEP UP WITH. SO WE ARE NOW IN THE ALLEY THAT WE ADD TO THE LIST. NOW BECOMES PART OF THAT FOR THE FUTURE. I JUST WANTED TO THAT'S THIS IS WHAT WE PRESENTED TO THE TIM COMMITTEE. AND AGAIN, THIS ALSO GOES WITH QUALIFYING THAT IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS DO HAVE THIS AND THEY WANT TO DO THE PAYMENT PLAN, THERE'S THE ADDITIONAL INVOLVEMENT FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND OR THE REVENUE RECOVERY TEAM. IF THEY WANT TO DO A PAYMENT PLAN, THEN THEY'VE GOT TO SET UP THE PAYMENT PLANS WITH THEM. THERE'S ALSO THE FILING OF LIENS AND RELEASES AND KEEPING TRACK OF ALL OF THAT. SO THERE IS A LOT OF WORK ON THE BACK END AFTER ALL OF THIS IS COMPLETED, THAT TAKE UP A LOT OF STAFF TIME. SO WITH THAT, WE ALSO RECOMMENDED FOR THE DISCONTINUATION OF THIS PROGRAM, AND I WILL OPEN THAT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. I MEAN, IN LIEU OF THE LACK OF PARTICIPATION, I'M FINE WITH DISCONTINUING THE PROGRAM. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ONE THIRD ONE THIRD THAT WAS ON THE FIRST PAGE. WHO PAYS THE OTHER THIRD? IT'S IT'S EACH HALF OF THE ALLEY. THERE'S THE FRONTAGE. LET'S SAY IT'S 50FT. SO THE CITY PAYS A THIRD OF THAT. THE PROPERTY ON ONE SIDE OF THE ALLEY PAYS A THIRD. AND THE PROPERTY OKAY. AND SO IT'S SHARED EVENLY IDEALLY. BUT AGAIN BY BY STATE STATUTES WE HAVE TO LIMIT THEIR ASSESSMENT CANNOT BE ANY MORE THAN THE ENHANCED VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER DENTON. FIRST OF ALL, I'M IMPRESSED THAT YOU HAVE THAT SPIEL MEMORIZED BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THAT WAS A LOT. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF OUR LACK OF PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE YOU GOT TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT. THAT WAS. BUT KUDOS FOR KNOWING ALL OF THAT. THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY UNIMPROVED ALLEYWAYS WE HAVE IN THE CITY? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I DO NOT KNOW THEHE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. I KNOW THE STREET DEPARTMENT MIGHT HAVE THAT INFORMATION, BUT I DO NOT KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS NOT THE UTILITY EASEMENT. SO THOSE ARE TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE THINGS. THESE ARE ACTUAL ALLEYS THAT ARE DEDICATED AS UNIMPROVED ALLEYS. SO UTILITY EASEMENTS, WHICH WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO CONFUSE THOSE WITH ALLEYWAYS THAT ARE UNIMPROVED, TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE THINGS. WE HAVE A LOT MORE UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT ARE UNIMPROVED THAN WE DO UNIMPROVED ALLEYS. BUT I'LL TRY AND GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE IT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. DO WE HAVE MORE THAN 95 THAT EVEN NEED TO BE IMPROVED? IT WOULD BE A GUESS AT THIS POINT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS. IF WE HAVE 40 REALLY THAT NEED TO BE DONE. AND WE'VE HAD I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT WAS JUST WHERE MY BRAIN WAS GOING WITH THAT. BUT BECAUSE I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN 95. I MEAN, NOT TOO MANY, MORE THAN 95 THAT NEED TO BE DONE. BUT YEAH, THAT WAS THAT WAS A 
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LOT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. THEN. 
          COUNCIL LOOKING ON CONSENSUS ON DISCONTINUING THIS PROGRAM. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN THOMAS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO CLOSE US OUT ON THIS? NO. THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR LISTENING AND APPRECIATE THAT. THE COMMITTEE DID DELIBERATE QUITE A BIT ON THIS. I THINK WE DID QUIZ STAFF PRETTY HEAVILY ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING HERE, BECAUSE IT'S IT'S ONE, YOU KNOW, TO DISCONTINUE A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW, IT'S A HARD THING TO DO. WE WANT TO MAKE SURTHAT THERE'S NO GOOD REASON. WE TRIED TO UNCOVER ALL THE STONES, COULDN'T FIND ANY, COULDN'T FIND ANY REASON TO KEEP THESE GOING. SO WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING HERE, SIR. VERY GOOD. 
          [10. Administrative Services Committee Report]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER TEN. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE REPORT. CHAIRWOMAN BEARD, MA'AM. THANK YOU. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE IS MYSELF, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. AND TWO YEARS AGO, MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK DID SOME A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH AND FOUND US CLEAR CAREER PROFESSIONALS TO DO OUR EVALUATIONS OF COUNCIL APPOINTEES. AND THEIR CONTRACT IS UP FOR RENEWAL. AND PHIL IS HERE SOMEWHERE. TO GIVE US SOME INFORMATION. SORRY ABOUT THAT. MAYOR, COUNCIL. MR. CITY MANAGER, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT THIS ITEM. SO AS COUNCIL MEMBER BEARD STATED, THIS IS A PROPOSED CONTRACT RENEWAL THAT WENT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE FOR THE ASSISTANCE OF THE COUNCIL EVALUATION PROCESS. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE A CONTRACT WITH CLEAR CAREER PROFESSIONALS. THEY HAVE PROPOSED TO KEEP THEIR PRICING THE SAME, WHICH IS A $27,000 FEE TO ASSIST WITH THE EVALUATION OF THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY AUDITOR, AS WELL AS THE TWO MUNICIPAL JUDGES. THERE WERE SEVERAL AREAS OF FEEDBACK THAT WERE GIVEN AT THE COMMITTEE RELATED TO GETTING MORE PARTICIPATION FROM THE COUNCIL RELATED TO THE EVALUATION PROCESS, AND ALSO DOING THAT EARLIER IN THE PROCESS AS WELL, SO IT'S NOT SO RUSHED. THERE WAS ALSO GREAT FEEDBACK ABOUT HOW THE INFORMATION WAS COMPILED AND PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS SEPARATED BY THE APPOINTEE, AND THEY WEREN'T HAVING TO FLIP BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN BETWEEN THE INFORMATION. SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE WITH CLEAR CAREER PROFESSIONALS. 
          THEY'VE KEPT THEIR PRICING THE SAME, AND IF THEY ARE ENGAGED AGAIN, THEY ARE HAPPY TO COME TO A WORK SESSION AND HEAR WHATEVER FEEDBACK THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE MAY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THIS IS A SUCCESSFUL VENTURE AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO IS TO EXTEND THEIR CONTRACT FOR ANOTHER YEAR. AGAIN SAME PRICE. THEY'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB FOR US AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY OPEN TO OUR FEEDBACK AND ADJUSTING THEIR SERVICES AS WE HAVE REQUESTED. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO ONE IN THE QUEUE THEN. THEN WE'LL LOOK FOR CONSENSUS ON RENEWING THAT CONTRACT. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING TO CLOSE THIS OUT? I THINK THAT'LL COVER IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VERY GOOD. ALL 
          [11. Public Safety Committee Report - Fire | EMS Stakeholder Committee Update]
RIGHT THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 11. PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT. 
          IT'S THE FIRE AND EMS STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE UPDATE. WE HAVE CHAIRMAN SIR. WELL THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL FEBRUARY 16TH WE HAD OUR WE HAD ANOTHER MEETING. IT WAS MEETING NUMBER SEVEN I BELIEVE IT WAS. AND WE EVERYTHING WAS WAS ABOUT STAFFING SCHEDULES AND AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THEM. FEEL FREE TO FILL US IN. Y YES, SIR. SO, MR. GARDNER, MANAGING DIRECTOR AND STAFF LIAISON FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AS DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE SPECIAL COMMITTEE WITHIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THE FIRE AND EMS STAKEHOLDERS COMMITTEE WITH THE PURPOSE OF DELIVERING RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT ABOUT FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE FIRE AND EMS SERVICES FOR THE CITY. 
          LOOKING AT THE 24 ON 48 OFF SCHEDULE, ALONG WITH OTHER SCHEDULING MODELS, PARTICULARLY WITH THE INCREASE IN CALL VOLUME RELATED TO EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES. SO WITH THAT, AS A REMINDER, IT DOES INCLUDE THE FIRE AND EMS STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE DOES INCLUDE THE 
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THREE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, LED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OTT AS THE CHAIR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND THEN ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. ALONG WITH THAT, AND PURPOSEFULLY, IT INCLUDES A CROSS-SECTION OF CITY STAFF MEMBERS AS WELL AS COMMUNITY LEADERS, SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE MOST BALANCED RECOMMENDATION POSSIBLE TO COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT. SO AS A PROGRESS UPDATE IN GENERAL, WE'VE LOOKED AT OPERATIONAL PRESSURES OF INCREASED CALL VOLUMES, ALONG WITH STAFF LIMITATIONS AND THE CAUSE OF THE INCREASED RESPONSE TIMES, OR AT LEAST LEADING TO INCREASED RESPONSE TIMES DUE TO THE INCREASED CALL VOLUME. 
          WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT FIREFIGHTER RECOVERY, FATIGUE AND HEALTH IMPACTS DUE TO THE 2448 SCHEDULE, AND WE'RE EVALUATING VARIOUS STAFFING MODELS AMIDST LIMITATIONS OF SENATE BILL TWO. FOR THE COMMITTEE. WE ARE ON SCHEDULE FOR A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE FISCAL FEASIBILITY AND FUNDING, OPERATIONS OR FUNDING OPTIONS. EXCUSE ME FOR THE 42 HOUR WORK WEEK TRANSITION THAT'S GOING TO BE EVALUATED AT THE MARCH 11TH MEETING, AND THEN WE ARE STILL ON SCHEDULE AND FOCUSED TO DELIVER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT AFTER THE MAY 13TH MEETING. SO AS ALWAYS WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. SEE NO QUESTIONS CHAIRMAN, ANYTHING TO CLOSE US OUT THEN ON THIS ITEM. JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THE PARTICIPATION. WE'VE HAD ROBUST NUMBERS OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF DATA. 
          AND IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN AN EYE OPENING EXPERIENCE. AND WE WELCOME THE PUBLIC AND ANYONE WHO WANTS WHO'S INTERESTED TO COME TO OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE ON MARCH 11TH. AND WHERE IS THAT MEETING, SIR? WELL, IT HAPPENS TO BE CONVENIENTLY AT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT. AND WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO OUR NEXT 
          [12. Community Services Committee Report]
COMMITTEE REPORT. IT'S ITEM NUMBER 12, COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE REPORT. CHAIRWOMAN DUNCAN, YOU. WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THE COOKING THING. THE PRESENTATION. WE HAD AN AGREEMENT. HE WAS GOING TO CLICK AN AVATAR. HE'S FAILING US. OKAY, WELL, I GUESS I CAN START WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO LOCATE. SCOTT. SO WE HAD A FEW ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. ONE WAS OUR USED TIRE DISPOSAL AND RECYCLING. WE HAVE HAD QUITE, QUITE THE EDUCATIONAL TIME LEARNING ABOUT USED TIRES AND THE CONCERN OR COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE. SO STAFF LOOKED AND HAD US. WE INTERVIEWED SOME LOCAL BUSINESSES, TIRE SHOPS. WE DISCUSSED THE OPTIONS FOR USED TIRE DISPOSAL AND OR RECYCLING. OUR SANITATION DEPARTMENT AND OUR LANDFILL DIRECTORS BOTH JOINED US. AND REALLY, JUST TO FIGURED OUT THAT THE COST OF WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING VERSUS ANY OTHER PROGRAM OUTSIDE OF THAT IS IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE. 
          WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT $23 OR $2300 A YEAR ON RECYCLING ILLEGALLY DUMPED TIRES. AND SINCE THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE RECYCLING EVENTS AND ALLOWING PEOPLE TO BRING IN USED TIRES FOR RECYCLING, THE NUMBER OF ILLEGALLY DUMPED TIRES HAS ACTUALLY GONE DOWN. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. LET'S SEE. OH, THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF USED TIRES THAT THE LAND OR THAT THE TRANSFER STATION CAN HAVE AT ONE TIME BEFORE IT TRIGGERS THE T T Q AS A USED IN SCRAP TIRE GENERATOR. SO 4.99 IS OUR MAGIC NUMBER THAT WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE WE NEVER HAVE MORE THAN THAT MANY AT ONE TIME. SO FAR WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, SO WE HAVE THE RECYCLING EVENTS ARE FOR TIRES PER RESIDENT WITH OUR SANITION DEPARTMENT. WE'VE MADE SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN THE PARAMETERS IN OUR. OUR TEAM HAS BEEN VERY LENIENT WORKING WITH RESIDENTS, BRIRINGING IN TIRES SO THAT WE'RE FINDING LESS AND LESS OF THEM ON THE 
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STREETS. SO THAT'S EXCITING. SO WE'VE GOT THE NUMBER OF COLLECTED TIRES HAS GONE DOWN ALMOST, ALMOST A LITTLE OVER HALF IN 20. IN 2023 WE PICKED UP 815 ILLEGALLY DUMPED TIRES. 
          LAST YEAR WE WERE AT 325. AND SO FAR THIS YEAR WE'RE OUT 153. SO WE'RE ON TRACK TO TO CONTINUE WITH THOSE LOWER NUMBERS. SO OUR STAFF WILL I MEAN LOWER THAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET BACK UP TO 815. OKAY. BUT ANYWAY, WELL WE MIGHT THINGS HAPPEN. THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S BUSY MONTHS FOR TIRES ODDLY. LIKE WHERE IT'S IT'S THAT'S SERIOUS. THEY'RE MONTHS WHERE THEY'RE LIKE DURING THE SEASONS WHATEVER WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT CHANGING THEIR TIRES AS FREQUENTLY. AND SO YOU GET LESS THAT ARE BEING COLLECTED. I DON'T MAKE UP THE RULES. OKAY. 
          SO OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ONE IS FOR STAFF TO CONTINUE MONITORING, MONITORING ILLEGAL DUMPING ACTIVITY. AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE OUR QUARTERLY TIRE COLLECTION. AND PLEASE HELP SPREAD THE WORD TO RESIDENTS WHEN WE HAVE THOSE COLLECTION EVENTS TO GO AND DROP OFF THEIR OWN USE TIRES. AND AND WE ALSO DO COUNT HOW MANY TIRES A RESIDENT. THEY DO KEEP TRACK OF THAT SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T JUST TAKING THEIR MOM AND POP SHOP AND MAKING US PAY FOR THEIR TIRES. SO. NEXT. OKAY, NEXT IS OUR ADOPT A EX. WE DIDN'T HAVE A NAME FOR IT. 
          SO IT WAS A STREET, AN AREA, NEIGHBORHOOD, WHATEVER. THIS WAS. BASICALLY, WE DECIDED THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE NOT QUITE READY FOR THIS PROGRAM OR THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM. 
          WE MET WITH OUR VOLUNTEER TEAM WITH VOLUNTEER GARLAND, AND THEY DO. WE'VE ALL DECIDED THAT WE LOVE THE PROGRAM IDEA. WE'RE JUST NOT AT THAT SPOT WHERE IT'S IT'S A FEASIBLE PROGRAM FOR US TO KICK OFF. YET, BECAUSE VOLUNTEER GARLAND IS STILL FAIRLY NEW AND UP AND GOING, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO ACCOMPLISH BEFORE WE CAN REALLY MAKE THIS PROGRAM BE SUCCESSFUL THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS ONE ARE CONTINUE BUILDING VOLUNTEER GARLAND CAPACITY. REVISIT. THE EVOLUTION OF THIS CAPACITY BUILDING IN THE NEXT YEAR. I HAVE A QUESTION HERE. FIRST, MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. SO THE ADOPT A STREET OR SPOT PROGRAM IS WHERE SOMEONE ELSE VOLUNTEERS TO KEEP AN AREA CLEAN. SO WHAT? I GUESS, WHAT ROADBLOCKS DID YOU ALL HIT THAT MADE IT NOT A FEASIBLE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW? THE STAFFING THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REALLY IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO START THE PROGRAM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT MORE STAFF POWER THAN WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. I AND JEFF MIGHT HAVE SOME INPUT ON THIS ONE BECAUSE HE WAS THERE FOR DISCUSSIONS IN CASE I'M REMEMBERING A LITTLE WRONG, BUT A LOT OF IT WAS JUST THE STAFF, THE STAFFING THAT WE'VE GOT, THE TIME THAT IT WILL TAKE BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF VOLUNTEER EFFORT TO REALLY HELP GET IT GOING. FAST. HERE. IT. THANK YOU. SO OUR VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR, JOSUE DIAZ, IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROGRAM. HE'S ADMINISTERED THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM BEFORE. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. YEAH. SO TAKING HIS TAKING HIS ADVICE, IT'S BEST FOR US TO TO TABLE THIS FOR A YEAR. THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT'S INVOLVED IN IT THAN YOU THINK. 
          YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THE VOLUNTEERS HAVE VESTS AND TRASH BAGS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          AND THEN WHO'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO STORE THEM? WHO'S GOING TO JUST MANAGE ALL THE BACK END OF IT? IT'S JUST IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST PUTTING UP A SIGN, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY KIND OF MERGED MINE AND YOURS. MY ADOPT A STREET AND YOUR ADOPT A SPOT HERE. AND SO, YOU KNOW GOING INTO THIS IT JUST ON THE SURFACE IT LOOKS LIKE, OH WE JUST STICK UP A SIGN AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER'S NAMES ON THE SIGN COMES OUT AND MAGICALLY KEEPS THE PLACE CLEAN. 
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IT TURNS OUT THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT ON THE ON THE BACK END OF IT. SO IT JUST AND WITH HOST WAY HAVING THE EXPERIENCE THAT HE HAS RUNNING THIS PROGRAM REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT WHEN WE DO IT, HAVE IT BE A VIBRANT PROGRAM. AND SO TAKING HIS ADVICE AND GIVING HIM SOME MORE TIME TO GET THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS AT OUR OUR CORE GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS BUILT UP, EVEN THOUGH, YES, THESE ARE ADOPT A SPOT PROGRAMS, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO DO THEM WILL BE VOLUNTEERS. SO WE JUST WANT TO GET OUR OUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAM A LITTLE MORE ROBUST BEFORE WE DO A LARGE THING LIKE THIS. BUT IT IS IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT IN A YEAR. OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT OFF OF OUR OUR TO DO LIST FOR COMMITTEE, BUT YET AND I'M GLAD YOU TOUCHED ON THAT. 
          WE SAY VOLUNTEERS, BUT EVEN THE ADOPTER IS STILL VOLUNTEERING. AND SO REALLY JUST TRYING TO STREAMLINE THE VOLUNTEER GARLAND PROGRAM WHERE THAT THEY CAN GO AND REACH OUT TO BUSINESSES AND ASK, YOU KNOW, DO THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS PROGRAM? AND THEN BECAUSE VOLUNTEER GARLAND HAS ALL OF THE CLEANUP SUPPLIES, LIKE THE PICKERS AND THE BAGS AND THE SAFETY VESTS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. AND SO THAT WAS A LOT OF THAT CONVERSATION WAS WHO WOULD WHO WOULD SORT, WHO WOULD GIVE IT OUT, WHO'S GOING TO TRACK THE HOURS, WHO'S GOING TO. AND SO JUST A LOT OF BACK END THINGS. BUT. OKAY, FEBRUARY 8TH, WHAT DAY IS IT? 18TH, 16TH. SO I WILL SAY 2027 I WASN'T PREPARED I WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK ON THIS. SO IF I'M FORGETTING ANYTHING, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO BACK AND REVIEW OUR AUDIO FROM OUR MOST RECENT COMMUNITY SERVICES MEETING COMMITTEE. YEAH. IF I COULD, I COULD GET US TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL TO IT. BUT I THINK TO COUNCILMAN BEST'S POINT, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN APPEARS ON THE ON THE SURFACE IN TERMS OF COORDINATION. WHAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS, IS BANG FOR OUR BUCK FOR THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO COORDINATE ALL THE STUFF BEHIND THE SCENES THAT YOU MAY NOT SEE, GETTING WHOEVER'S ADOPTED THAT SPOT, GETTING THE SIGN ORDERED, GETTING IF IT'S IN TEXAS RIGHT AWAY, THERE'S A LOT OF APPROVALS. AND SO AT THIS TIME WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROGRAM FOR THEIR EFFORTS, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THAT GET A LOT MORE EFFORT ON THE GROUND. IS THERE A WAY TO TO HAVE ADOPTED SPOTS AND ADOPT STREETS BE BENEFICIAL? ABSOLUTELY. I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GET A LITTLE MORE DETAIL FROM HOST WAY ON IT AND JUST CIRCULATE IT TO THE BROADER COUNCIL. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. NO THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I, I BELONG TO A GROUP OF IN MESQUITE WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A STREET. WE HAVE A PARK THAT WE TAKE CARE OF IN MESQUITE. OKAY. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE GROUPS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO WOULD TRULY LIKE TO BE PART OF HELPING TO KEEP THE CITY CLEAN. IF NOTHING ELSE, THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE THEIR NAME ON IT. 
          THEY AND I GUESS WHAT I'M WHAT I'M LISTENING TO PRESENTLY IS THAT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE DO GO AHEAD AND IMPROVE IT, THEN IN FACT, WHAT YOU'RE SPEANG OF THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE DONE, YOU WOULD HAVE A YEAR PROBABLY, AND TO TO PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER IN THE WAY OF WHAT TAKES PLACE IN THE BACKGROUND AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. OF COURSE, I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE. AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO THINK ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT. BUT I REALLY DO FEEL THAT THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED. I DO AGREE THAT, YES, THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THE SURFACE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TIME, NO DOUBT, TO PULL THAT TOGETHER AND TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND I'M THINKING THAT IT PROBABLY TAKE YOU A GOOD YEAR TO REALLY PULL IT ALL TOGETHER. BUT IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU NEED ANOTHER YEAR AND BEFORE YOU EVEN DO THE APPROVAL, THEN I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I'M OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I WOULD TRULY LIKE TO SEE YOU. CONSIDER MAKING IT HAPPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER BASS. NO. ARE YOU JUST PUNCHED IN FAMILIAR? OKAY. VERY GOOD. CLEANUPS AROUND TOWN. AND SO THIS ISN'T ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO HINDER ANY KIND OF CLEANUP EFFORTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DO. OKAY? I MEAN, YOU GOT IT FIGURED OUT. YEAH. I MEAN, KEEP IN MIND, UP UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, THERE WAS A DEPARTMENT OF 1.5. WE'VE MOVED 2.5 UP TO ONE ENTIRE FTE. AND 
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SO WHAT WHAT REALLY EATS UP THEIR TIME IS THE COORDINATION. I MEAN, WHAT YOU JUST DOESN'T SOUND LIKA LOT, BUT BY THE TIME YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, COLLECTING INFORMATION, INQUIRIES, REQUESTS, RESPONDING BACK, GETTING THE DATES SET UP, GETTING FORMS FILLED OUT, GETTING, YOU KNOW, SAFETY EQUIPMENT GETTING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IS INVOLVED. IT'S QUITE A BIT. AND I THINK THE TRICK IS IN A TRUE, YOU KNOW, ADOPT A HIGHWAY PROGRAM OR ADOPT A STREET PROGRAM, THOSE GROUPS, TYPICALLY WHOEVER SIGNS UP FOR THAT, GENERALLY IF THEY DO IT QUARTERLY, IT'S A LOT IT'S A LOT OF TIMES JUST ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR. AND SO AGAIN, FOR THE BANG FOR THE BUCK, WE THINK WITH THE TWO PEOPLE WE'VE GOT, WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'LL BE COMING BACK SHORTLY ON A REPORT OUT ON THE LAKE, ON THE LAKE CLEANUP THAT THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS A MASSIVE LIFT. SO AND I HAVE FULL FAITH IN JOSUE OF BEING ABLE TO BUILD A DATABASE THAT THAT WILL HAVE AN ARMY OF PEOPLE WILLING TO HELP OUT, JUST A MATTER OF HOW DO WE HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT WORKFLOW. SO WE THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM, BUT I'LL COME BACK WITH SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS FROM FROM HIM TO THE GROUP IF THAT WORKS. 
          OKAY. NEXT IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT GUIDELINES. WE MADE A FEW ADJUSTMENT THAT WERE JUST CLARIFYING THE ELIGIBILITY OF PROJECTS SEEKING TO REPLACE OR UPDATES OR UPDATE AMENITIES AND ASSETS THAT HAVE OUTLIVED THEIR USUAL OR USEFUL LIFE. WE ADDED TREES WITH THE 20 PLUS YEAR LIFESPAN AS AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT COMPONENT BEFORE ANY LIVING. 
          THING WAS NOT INCLUDED ON THE GRANT, AND THEN ESTABLISHED THAT THE LETTER OF INTENT IS NOW REQUIRED FOR ALL APPLICANTS, NOT JUST THOSE OVER 25,000, BECAUSE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY IT WAS JUST 25,000. SO NOW WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE COMMITMENT FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SORRY. 
          YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE? DID I MISS ANYTHING? SO OUR COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE APPROVED. 
          THE ABOVE CHANGES DIRECT STAFF TO UPDATE GUIDELINES FOR THE NEXT CYCLE. MAYOR PRO TEM, WILL YOU GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE FIRST BULLET POINT, CLARIFIED THE ELIGIBILITY OF PROJECTS SEEKING TO REPLACE OR UPDATE AMENITIES? THERE WERE LIKE SECURITY LIGHTS. 
          THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE JUST HAD ADJUSTED. ONE OF THEM WAS LIKE ONE COMMON EXAMPLE IS SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. THERE WILL BE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WANT TO UPGRADE A SYSTEM THAT'S FUNCTIONING. AND SO IF IT HAS IF THAT SPRKLER SYSTEM HASN'T OUTLIVED ITS USEFUL LIFE, THEN THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE THE GRANT WOULD PAY FOR, MAINLY BECAUSE OF OF ITS FUNDING SOURCE. IT'S BOND FUNDS THAT THAT COVER IT. SO IT HAS TO BE LIKE A CAPITAL REPLACEMENT. SO IF IT'S A PERFECTLY WORKING, YOU KNOW, ITEM, WE WOULDN'T USE BOND FUNDING TO REPLACE OR UPGRADE SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY WORKING. THAT'S SO THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION THAT WE WERE THAT WE WERE PUTTING IN THE GUIDELINES. WHAT ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE MAYBE DAMAGED DURING A STORM OR. RIGHT. I MEAN, OF COURSE EVERYTHING IS APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE, BUT THOSE YES, THINGS THAT ARE THAT HAVE BEEN DAMAGED BY THINGS OUTSIDE OF NORMAL USE WOULD BE WOULD BE CONSIDERED. LIKE STREET LIGHTS. SURE. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. AND THEN OUR NEXT AND FINALLY THE LAST ONE IS THE MAILERS DISTRIBUTED BY THIRD PARTIES. I SEE ADS AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE. SO THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST FRUSTRATING COMMITTEE TOPIC, I THINK, OF MY COUNCIL CAREER TO THIS POINT. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE LEARNED IS THAT OUR LIMITATIONS OF WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO ARE VERY SMALL. SO WE CANNOT DO A TOTAL BAN BECAUSE THAT'S DEEMED UNCONSTITUTIONAL. 
          MIKE BETTS ACTUALLY HELPED OR DID CREATE THE ORDINANCE ORIGINALLY FOR THE MAILERS. SO WE WE DOUBLE CHECKED. EVERYTHING IS VERY STRONG THERE. LET'S SEE. AND WE HAVE 
          [03:00:04]
REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS WHICH ARE DEBATABLE ON HOW WE ENFORCE THEM, HOW WE VERIFY ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I WILL SAY THAT AFTER WE CAME UP WITH OUR, OUR LITTLE IMAGE UP HERE, MIKE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF UTILIZING OUR MARSHALS TO HELP US WITH THIS PROGRAM OR WITH THIS SITUATION. AND SO THE HARDEST PART WITH THE FLIERS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO TICKET THE PERSON DISTRIBUTING THEM, NOT THE ACTUAL COMPANY THAT'S PRINTING THEM. SO BECAUSE THESE COMPANIES ARE USING THIRD PARTIES, LIKE JUST CONTRACT PEOPLE TO THROW THEM BASICALLY, OR DROP THEM OUT OF THEIR CAR, WHICHEVER THEY CHOOSE TO DO THAT DAY. THE, THE, THE RISK IS FOR THE PERSON ACTUALLY DISTRIBUTING THEM. SO THAT'S OUR HARDEST THING TO TACKLE IS ACTUALLY CATCHING THEM. SO IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT DAYS THEY COME THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, LET ME KNOW. AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON. THE MARSHALS HAVE AGREED TO TRY TO HELP US WITH THIS. AND THE HOPE IS, IS THAT WE CAN CATCH SOME OF THEM IN ACTION AND START FINDING THEM. AND EITHER THEY THEY GET IT, GET WITH THE PROGRAM, OR THEY JUST STOP COMING TO GARLAND. SO. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN END FOR THIS ONE. IT'S KIND OF JUST GOING TO CARRY OVER UNTIL WE CAN GET WITH THE MARSHALS AND REALLY START START TRYING TO CATCH THEM AND IN THE ACT. AND SO HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WE'LL HAVE A BETTER REPORT ON THIS. AND WE CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY TICKETS THAT WE'VE GIVEN PEOPLE. 
          YES. SO COUNCIL, THE PROBLEM WITH ENFORCEMENT ON THIS ORDINANCE IS THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY DRIVING DOWN THE STREET AND THROWING THESE FLIERS OUT ONTO PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS LIKE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE WITHIN 20FT OF THE DOOR, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T EVEN MAKE IT TO THE DRIVEWAYS. THEY JUST THROW THEM ON THE STREET. THE PROBLEM WITH CODE ENFORCING THAT IS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO A TRAFFIC STOP. THE MARSHALS WILL BE IN SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS DOING PARKING ENFORCEMENT IN ANY EVENT, AND I'VE SUGGESTED TO THE COMMITTEE AND WILL SUGGEST TO THE COUNCIL THAT THE MARSHALS ACTUALLY CAN DO TRAFFIC STOPS AND STOP THAT MOTOR VEHICLE. AND AND TICKET THE PERSON WHO IS VIOLATING THE ORDINANCE BY THROWING THE FLIER INTO THE STREET INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT THROUGH A DOOR TO PRICES, AND ALSO IF THEY'RE UNREGISTERED AT THE SAME TIME, THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE TICKET FOR THAT AS WELL. IT'S OUR HOPE THAT BECAUSE THEY DO THE SAME TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION ON THE SAME DAY CYCLES, THAT THE MARSHALS WILL BE ABLE TO CATCH THEM. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THIS AND BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT IS VERY DIFFICULT. THE POLICE ARGUABLY COULD DO IT. THE PROBLEM IS GETTING A POLICE OFFICER TO HANG OUT IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD FOR HOURS AT A TIME, AS BUSY AS THEIR CALL VOLUMES ARE, WHEREAS THE THE MARSHALS WILL BE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS IN ANY EVENT, PARKING ENFORCEMENT. SO IF WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, WE CAN USE THEM FOR THAT. I WOULD ALSO ADD TO THAT THAT THIS WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE ACTUALLY WRITTEN OFF TO ONE OF THE MAIN OFFENDERS DISTRIBUTORS. IT'S A NATIONAL COMPANY. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS MOST OF THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE PAYING THE LOCAL PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY DISTRIBUTE THEM, THEY'RE FROM OUT OF STATE. WE HAVE WRITTEN A LETTER TO ONE THIS PAST WEEK INFORMING THEM THAT THEIR DISTRIBUTORS, THEIR LOCAL DISTRIBUTORS, ARE UNLAWFULLY DISTRIBUTING SOME OF THESE ITEMS IN VIOLATION OF OUR ORDINANCE. IT'S IT'S NOT VERY EFFECTIVE, TO SAY THE LEAST. THEY CLAIM TO US, THEY TYPICALLY WILL RESPOND BACK AND SAY THAT THEY'VE NOTIFIED THEIR LOCAL LOCAL DISTRIBUTORS WHETHER THEY HAVE OR NOT. 
          THAT'S HARD TO SAY. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M DOING, I'M WORKING WITH THE MAN THIS WEEK IN MAYOR PRO TEM LUKE'S DISTRICT, WHO HAD CALLED IN LAST WEEK ABOUT A VIOLATION, AND HE SAYS HE SEEMS TO THINK IT'S MOSTLY WEDNESDAY MORNINGS. AND SO THIS WEDNESDAY MORNING, HE AGREED TO KEEP AN EYE OUT. IF IT IS, I'M GOING TO BE IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY MARSHAL TO SEE IF WE CAN'T GET CITY MARSHAL IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WEDNESDAY MORNINGS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE 9:00 IS WHAT THIS MAN SUGGESTED. HE'S GOING TO WAIT TO SEE AGAIN THIS WEEK IF IT'S A REPEAT. AND IF IT IS, THEN WE'LL TRY TO COORDINATE WITH MARSHAL GRANADO AND HER TEAM. AND I KNOW THAT NOT EVERYONE HAS THIS ISSUE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. ODDLY ENOUGH. APPARENTLY THEY DON'T GO TO ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, OR IT'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. SO I KNOW SURFACE LEVEL. THIS SEEMS VERY 
          [03:05:03]
LIKE FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS. THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WHEN THEY'RE THROWING THEM OUT INTO THE STREET, A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S THEY'RE LITERALLY JUST DROPPING THEM OUT OF THE CAR AND IT'S SPRINKLING THE STREETS. AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE OLDER PEOPLE THAT THEY, THEY PHYSICALLY CANNOT WALK INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TO GO PICK THESE UP, THEY THE WIND BLOWS THEM BECAUSE THEY WEIGH HALF AN OUNCE. THEY END UP ALL OVER EVERYWHERE. THEN THEY GET WET. 
          AND IT'S JUST IT IS A MESS. AND IT'S I MEAN, IT'S UGLY, BUT IT'S ALSO THEY'RE GETTING INTO THERAINAGE SYSTEM, INTO OUR WASTEWATER. AND SO IT'S A LOT BIGGER THAN JUST IT'S NOT PRETTY. IT IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM. SO I AM HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST GET IT KNOCKED DOWN A LITTLE BIT WH THE HELP OF THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE. SO THIS ONE IS STAYING IN COMMITTEE, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK ONCE WE GET GOING WITH THE MARSHAL'S QUESTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YES, THEY ARE A PROBLEM. WE WE GET IT SEEM LIKE EVERY OTHER WEEK, BUT. AS I LISTEN, I THINK FOR AS A REPRESENTATIVE IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME THOUGH WHEN MY NEIGHBORS ASKED ME WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THIS? HOW DO WE DO IT? AT LEAST AT THIS POINT WE HAVE I HAVE SOME DIRECTION HERE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PRIMARY THING IS WE REALLY NEED TO KIND OF GET A GAUGE FOR WHEN THEY'RE COMING THROUGH. THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF PLAN FOR IT. 
          AS I HEAR IS TAKING PLACE PRESENTLY, AND IT GIVES ME SOMETHING, AT LEAST IN ORDER TO GIVE THE CONSTITUENT HOPE. COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS IDEA OF THE TOTAL BANS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL? WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY THE TOTAL BAN IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL? IT WAS IT WAS REALLY JUST A ARE WE ALLOWED TO BAN? THE THROW OUT ADS AND ADD A WHOLE. RIGHT. 
          SO LIKE WHERE WE WOULD WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANY KIND OF DISTRIBUTION BY HAND THROUGH THE CITY. AND SO IT WAS ONE OF THOSE LIKE, JUST WHAT IF TYPE OF SITUATION. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR ORDINANCE SAYS IT DOES HAVE TO BE WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THE FRONT DOOR. AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. AND SO THEN IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, WELL, ARE WE EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO CATCH THEM? BECAUSE IT IS VERY MUCH IT HAS TO BE VERY ORCHESTRATED FOR EVEN IF IT WAS CODE OR PD OR THE MARSHALS OR WHOEVER, YOU HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE TIME AND KNOW WHEN TO SIT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD TO CATCH THESE PEOPLE. AND SO IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING TO BE ABLE TO CATCH THEM. SO IT'S LIKE, IF WE CAN'T, IF WE JUST CAN'T CATCH THEM, CAN WE JUST OUTLAW IT ALTOGETHER? AND THEN THAT WAY, LIKE WE'RE JUST DONE. AND SO THE CITY ATTORNEY DID SAY THAT THAT WOULD VIOLATE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THAT WALK THAT LINE. SO GO AHEAD, BRIAN. COUNCILMAN MOORE, THERE'S A SERIES OF CASES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, AND EVEN THE SUPREME COURT HAS A COUPLE OF CASES WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THE TRADITION IN THE UNITED STATES, THE LONG HELD TRADITION OF UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS AND PEOPLE GOING DOOR TO DOOR SELLING GOODS AND SERVICES. AND THEY'VE CONSIDERED THAT BECAUSE OF THAT LONG HELD TRADITION, REALLY FROM ALMOST THE BEGINNING, THEY'VE CONSIDERED THAT THAT A RIGHT, A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO GO AND SELL YOUR SERVICES FROM DOOR TO DOOR, EVEN IF IT'S UNSOLICITED, WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS, OBVIOUSLY. AND ONE OF T THINGS THAT THEY'VE HELD ON CASES ON THIS VERY POINT IS THAT WE CAN'T DO A TOTAL BAN. WE CAN'T. THERE IS A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO GO DOOR TO DOOR. OF COURSE, THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER CAN LIMIT THAT ACCESS. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT UP NO SOLICITING SIGNS. BUT AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE ARE LIMITED THROUGH THE SUPREME COURT'S COMMON LAW CASES. 
          FINALLY, HAVE WE HAD IN GARLAND ANY SITUATIONS WHERE IN FACT WE HAVE CAUGHT THEM IN THE ACT AND TAKEN TO LITIGATION AND ACTUALLY WE'RE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? I'LL LET THE CITY MANAGER SPEAK ON THAT BECAUSE HE WAS WE HAD THIS ISSUE YEARS AGO WITH THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AND FLIERS THEY'RE THROWING, AND EVENTUALLY THEY CEASED THROWING THE FLIERS BECAUSE THEY WERE UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS NOT COST EFFECTIVE FOR THEM TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE. SO THEY STOPPED THROWING THEM IN THE CURBS AND STREETS. AND AND THEY WERE VERY COOPERATIVE. NOW THEY'RE A LOCAL COMPANY AND IT WAS A LOT EASIER TO GET THEIR ATTENTION. BUT BUT WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS. AND I THINK WITH 
          [03:10:04]
SOME ENFORCEMENT, WE'VE NEVER HAD THE REAL ABILITY TO DO ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULT COORDINATION ISSUE. BUT IF WE HAVE AN IDEA OF SO OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, GIVEN THAT THE MARSHALS CAN DO PARKING ENFORCEMENT IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE THEY'RE WAITING ON THE FLIER DISTRIBUTORS, THEY SEE THEM DO THIS. THEY CAN STOP THEM AND CITE THEM. I THINK THAT WILL MAKE SOME HEADWAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR, IS THAT THESE ADS THAT THEY'RE THROWING NOW WERE PREVIOUSLY IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, AND THEN THEY ENDED THEIR CONTRACT. AND SO NOW THEY'RE SO. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SO YEAH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL MAKE SOME HEADWAY WITH THAT. SO IF ANYONE HAS CONSTITUENTS THAT HAVE EXPRESSED THE SAME CONCERNS AND ISSUES, IF THEY CAN GET US LIKE A DAY, I THINK THAT IT'S BIWEEKLY. AND SO IF THEY CAN GET US A DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIKE WHAT TIME IF THEY'VE NOTICED A PATTERN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE FAIRLY CONSISTENT. SO I KNOW THAT THEY COME THURSDAYS BETWEEN 11 AND 2 BECAUSE I STALK THEM. SO IF YOU WILL LET US KNOW THAT INFORMATION. AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN TRY TO TAKE THEM OUT FOR LITTERING OR SOMETHING. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT, GREAT CASE FOR DOORBELL CAMERAS AS WELL. MAYBE ABLE TO HELP. 
          THAT'S THAT'S LITERALLY HOW I STALK THEM IS WITH THE CAMERA. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOUR COMMITTEE, MA'AM? THAT IS WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL. WE ARE 
          [13. Legislative & Public Affairs Committee Report]
GOING TO POSTPONE THE ITEM NUMBER 13, LEGISLATIVE AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, 
          [ CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS]
REPORT TO ANOTHER DATE. THAT MOVES US ON TO ITEM 1415. IT'S APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. MAYOR PRO TEM, IF YOU WOULD MAKE MY APPOINTMENT TOMORROW. AND COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT 
          [ ANNOUNCE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
YOU'D WISH TO HAVE ADDED TO OUR AGENDA? MAYOR PRO TEM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. WELL, I HAVE TWO. 
          ONE IS I'D LIKE US TO CONSIDER ELIMINATING THE ANTIQUATED PRACTICE FOR COLLECTING ADDRESSES FOR PUBLIC COMMENTERS. I'VE NOTICED THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF OUR PUBLIC UNCOMFORTABLE TO GIVE THEIR ADDRESS, AND I BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LEGALLY REQUIRED. 
          SO IT IS NICE TO HAVE THEIR NAME, THOUGH. SO. AND HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MORE ON THAT ITEM. OKAY. AND THE OTHER WOULD BE TO GET A BRIEFING ON. ON 911 HOLD TIMES. I HAD A CONSTITUENT THAT CONTACTED ME SAID HE WAS ON HOLD FOR ABOUT 2.5 MINUTES. AT 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, AND HE SAID HE'S HAD TO CALL 911 SERAL TIMES. AND IT SEEMS LIKE HIS HOLD TIMES ARE GETTING LONGER AND LONGER. SO I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING INTERESTING. 
          YOU SECOND, WE'LL GIVE THAT ONE TO COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. I SAW HER FIRST THERE. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT. VERY GOOD. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE LOOK AT THE WI SCAPE PROGRAM WITH CODE AND. HAVE THEM. AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER BASS ON THAT ONE. ANYTHING ELSE MA'AM? AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT HAVING THE MARSHALS TAKE OVER CLOSING OF THE SKATE PARK GATES. THE SKATE PARK, CLOSING OF THE GATES AT THE SKATE PARK AND THE HOURS AND HOURS. YEAH. WE SHOULD CLOSE THEM. YES. OKAY. 
          SECOND ON THAT ITEM, MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK.NYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, I JUST I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE AN ITEM, BUT I'VE GOT SOMETHING I WANT TO COUNCILMAN ART SUGGESTION. THE FACT THAT IT BOTHERS SOME RESIDENTS TO COME BEFORE US AND SPEAK, AND WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THE ADDRESS. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS AND IF THEY'RE A RESIDENT. ONE SECOND, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, SINCE THIS IS ONLY RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD, AND EVERYBODY GAVE A THUMBS UP ON THAT FOR IT TO GO FORWARD, HE GOT A SECOND. WE CAN'T REALLY DISCUSS THE MERITS OF IT. 
          CERTAINLY IN THE FUTURE MEETING WE CAN DISCUSS THE MERITS OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S HOLD OFF 
          [03:15:03]
UNTIL AFTER ME. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. I'D LIKE TO LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF FORMING A FOUNDATION FOR VOLUNTEER GARLAND. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DENTON. YES. OKAY. SORRY. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS TO ADD TO OUR. MAYBE WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER LONG COMMITTEE REPORT IN THE FUTURE. 
          [ EXECUTIVE SESSION]
ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT COUNCIL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071551.072551.074 AND 551.087 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS DISCUSSED OR DELIBERATE COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THE CITY HAS RECEIVED FROM ONE OR MORE BUSINESSES, ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT OF THE CITY AND WITH WHICH THE CITY IS CONDUCTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS. 551.087 INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL SALE, EXCHANGE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY OF WEST AVENUE A AND SOUTH SIXTH STREET. 5510672 AND ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO THE SAME 551.071. 
          ITEM NUMBER 177 CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATION REGARDING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND MATTERS RELATED TO THE MASTER TELEHEALTH SERVICES AGREEMENT. 551.071 AND ITEM NUMBER 18. PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO THE HIRING OF A CITY MANAGER 551.074 AND TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. 551.071 REGARDING THE SAME. ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL. THEN AT 527, WE
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