[00:00:01]
IT WAS LIKE 26 MINUTES TODAY.ALL RIGHTY, EVERYONE, IT IS 4 46.
WELCOME TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE.
I AM CHAIRPERSON MARGARET LUT, AND I AM JOINED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER JEFF BASS AND COMMITTEE MEMBER JOE THOMAS
UM, WE WILL GO ONTO THE AGENDA, APPROVAL OF MINUTES ITEM ONE A.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS TODAY? NO, MA'AM.
ONTO ITEM THREE, A REVIEW CARPORT ORDINANCE.
THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED FOR REFERRAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE BY MAYOR PROTE, MARGARET LUCK, AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARISSA DUTTON AT THE MAY 19TH, 2025 WORK SESSION.
UM, JUST A LITTLE INTRODUCTION, UH, WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, UM, IN THE PAST MEETING, IT WAS KIND OF TACKLED MORE FROM, UH, BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND CODE COMPLIANCE AND ENFORCEMENT FROM THAT ANGLE AND THE CHALLENGES THAT, UM, COME WITH, WITH IT.
UM, WHAT WE GOT FROM THAT, THAT MEETING THE DIRECTION, WAS THAT WE ALSO WANNA EXPLORE MORE STANDARDS, MORE AESTHETICS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGH HAVING AESTHETICALLY PLEASING NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS GONNA BE MORE FOCUSED TOWARD THOSE MATTERS AND THOSE ELEMENTS.
AND AFTER WE GET DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE AT THAT TIME, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND CODE AND COME UP WITH A MORE COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH FOR OUR CARPORTS.
UH, BUT JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT, HAVE THAT IN THE BEGINNING.
THAT TO TODAY'S IS VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON ENHANCED STANDARDS, AESTHETICS, AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
SO WE HAVE DIVIDED OUR PRESENTATION INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT SECTIONS, AND THOSE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT LENSES THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK INTO THESE STANDARDS FROM.
SO, NUMBER ONE WILL BE SOME STANDARDS FOR ALL CARPORTS.
AND AGAIN, WE ARE MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL CARPORTS, BUT BASED ON WHAT WE GATHER FROM THIS COMMITTEE, SOME OF IT MAY ALSO BE APPLICABLE FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL, BUT TODAY'S IS VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON RESIDENTIAL CARPORT, AS WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS THE COMMITTEE'S FOCUS.
UM, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT CARPORT STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE FOR CARPORTS THAT ARE VISIBLE FROM A PUBLIC STREET.
SO AGAIN, FOCUS ON AESTHETICS.
WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO CARPORTS THAT ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREETS, BUT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE, WE DON'T WANT IT TO HAVE NO REGULATIONS AT ALL.
WE WANT TO HAVE SOME REGULATIONS.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE ONES THAT ARE VISIBLE FROM THE STREETS.
UH, WE DO WANNA TALK ABOUT, UM, KIND OF THE DEFINITIONS THAT WE HAVE AND HOW WE CAN CLEAN IT UP FOR OUR BENEFIT AND THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY CAN BE MORE EASILY UNDERSTOOD.
UH, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, UM, WE'LL BE KIND OF SEPARATING A PORT RICOCHETS A LITTLE BIT FROM CARPORTS BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE DONE SOME, RYAN HAS GONE IN AND GOT SOME REALLY GOOD PICTURES OF SOME PORT RICO, THE, THE TRUE TRUE PORT RICOCHETS THAT ARE REALLY DIFFERENT FROM CARPORTS AND HOW THAT CAN SOLVE SOME OF THE, WELL, WHERE AM I GONNA PARK MY ADDITIONAL CAR? WELL, MAYBE WE CAN USE PORTES BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, INTEGRATED WITH THE MAIN STRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE WILL BE EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF SEPARATING STANDARDS FOR THOSE FROM OUR CARPORTS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER IN THE SAME SPOT.
UH, WE WILL HAVE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATIONS, HOW, WHAT KIND OF APPEAL PROCESS, UH, PERSON CAN GO THROUGH IF THEY DON'T MEET OUR STANDARDS, BUT STILL WANT TO PURSUE SOMETHING.
WE DO WANNA GIVE THEM SOME PATHWAYS TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL KIND OF WRAP IT UP, UH, WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND, UH, WE WILL BE KIND OF JUST TOUCH ON, UH, TOUCHING, WE'LL BE TOUCHING A LITTLE BIT ON THE REVIEW PROCESS OF THE CARPORT BECAUSE WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE THAT TO STAY WITH BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND NOT REALLY MAKE IT SO THAT PLANNING HAS TO COME IN ON THE REVIEW SIDE.
BUT FOR THAT, OUR STANDARDS HAVE
[00:05:01]
TO BE OBJECTIVE AND BI HAS TO AGREE THAT THEY CAN OBJECTIVELY REVIEW THOSE.SO WE'LL BE TOUCHING ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO RYAN, MY LONG RANGE PLANNING ADMINISTRATOR.
HE HAS BEEN WITH US FOR TWO MONTHS NOW AND THIS IS HIS FIRST TIME PRESENTING AT TSC.
UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, LIKE NALA SAID, MY NAME IS RYAN MULKEY.
UM, AND YEAH, BEFORE I, UH, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, NABILA DID TOUCH ON ALL OF THIS, BUT, UM, JUST THAT ASTERISK THERE AT THE BOTTOM.
UM, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT SORT OF CATEGORIES OF PROPOSED STANDARDS, I JUST WANNA INVITE US ALL TO KIND OF CONSIDER IF THEY ARE OBJECTIVE ENOUGH TO BE REVIEWED, PERMITTED, INSPECTED, UH, BY STAFF AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND CODE COMPLIANCE.
SO JUST SORT OF A GENERAL THOUGHT, UM, AS WE MOVE THROUGH ALL THIS.
UM, SO STARTING WITH STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO ALL CARPORTS, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY'RE CITED.
UM, SOME OF THESE ARE, ARE PULLED FROM SOME, SOME OF OUR PEER CITIES.
UM, THIS FIRST ONE I'LL JUST SORT OF READ, UH, THE ENTIRE AREA UNDER A CARPORT SHALL ONLY BE USED TO PARK OPERABLE AND PROPERLY LICENSED VEHICLES.
IE CARS, PICKUP TRUCKS, VANS, SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES.
SOME CITIES INCLUDE BOATS AND CAMPERS.
UM, MAYBE WE WANT TO CONSIDER IF WE WANNA ALLOW FOLKS TO DO THAT, OR IF THOSE NEED TO PARK BE PARKED SOMEWHERE OFFSITE, MAYBE LIKE AN RV PARK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, THAT ARE CUSTOMARILY INCIDENTAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY.
NO STORAGE OF HOUSEHOLD BELONGINGS OR O OTHER NON VEHICLE ITEMS ARE ALLOWED.
SO THAT WOULD, UH, REQUIRE THAT CARPORTS ONLY BE USED TO PARK VEHICLES, NOT JUST SORT OF GENERAL COVERED OUTSIDE STORAGE.
UM, NEXT, A CARPORT SHALL ONLY BE PERMITTED WHEN COVERING AN APPROPRIATE ALL WEATHER DRIVEWAY SURFACE, SUCH AS, UH, CONCRETE OR ASPHALT DESIGNED FOR VEHICLE STORAGE.
SO CARPORTS CAN'T GO OVER GRASS OR GRAVEL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEY HAVE TO BE OVER ESSENTIALLY CONCRETE, A PAVED SURFACE.
UM, ALSO A CARPORT SHALL ONLY BE ACCESSED VIA AN APPROPRIATE ALL WEATHER DRIVEWAY SURFACE.
SO NOT ONLY THE SURFACE UNDERNEATH THE CARPORT, BUT ANY DRIVEWAY LEADING TO THAT AREA, WHETHER IT'S FROM A PUBLIC STREET OR AN ALLEY AT THE REAR OF A LOT, OR MAYBE A DRIVEWAY ALONGSIDE A HOUSE.
UM, ALL OF THAT ALSO HAS TO BE PAVED SURFACE.
WE CAN'T HAVE FOLKS DRIVING OVER GRASS, UM, TO GET TO THEIR CARPORT.
AND THEN LASTLY ON THIS SLIDE, THE ENTIRE CARPORT, INCLUDING THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE AND ROOF, SHALL BE WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF AN APPROPRIATE ALL-WEATHER DRIVEWAY SURFACE.
SMALL EXTENSIONS OF AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY POURED ONLY TO ACCOMMODATE THE SUPPORT COLUMNS OF A CARPORT SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED.
I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN AT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS, UH, MEETINGS ON THIS TOPIC.
UH, THAT LAST CONDITION WOULD JUST SORT OF, UH, PREVENT THIS LITTLE, THIS LITTLE GUY CIRCLED THERE, UM, IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER.
UM, ALSO A CARPORT SHALL NOT BE ENCLOSED OR CONVERTED INTO A GARAGE SPACE.
LIVING SPACE, STORAGE OR WORKROOM HAS TO REMAIN OPEN.
UM, THIS IS, UH, A, UM, A CONDITION PROPOSED BY OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR AT THE JANUARY PRESENTATION.
I'M JUST KIND OF KEEPING THAT IN, UH, AND NOTING HOW IT'S, UH, DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN CODE.
UM, SO RATHER THAN CONSTRUCTION PLANS BEING SUBMITTED FOR PERMIT APPROVAL MUST BE AN APPLICABLE LOAD SPAN, UH, REQUIRED BY THE BUILDING CODE OR BARE THE STAMP OF AN ENGINEER.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A REGISTERED DESIGN PROFESSIONAL LICENSE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
UM, MINIMUM HEIGHT OF ANY SUPPORT STRUCTURE FOR ANY CARPORT SHALL BE EIGHT FEET, AND THEN MAXIMUM AREA OF ANY CARPORT ANYWHERE.
UM, CANNOT EXCEED 400 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THIS IS ANOTHER CONDITION FROM, UM, THE LAST MEETING ON PROHIBITED MATERIALS.
A CARPORT SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUCTED OF UNPAINTED OR STAINED WOOD TIN PLASTIC, CONCRETE MASONRY UNITS.
CORRUGATED METAL CANVAS, WE WOULD RECOMMEND JUST SAYING, OR VINYL, UM, THAT, OR SIMILAR MATERIALS WE FELT KIND OF GIVES FOLKS A LITTLE TOO MUCH WIGGLE ROOM.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MATERIALS THAT, UH, MAYBE OUR COLLEAGUES IN BI WANT TO PROHIBIT, WE COULD SPECIFY THAT.
UM, BUT JUST KIND OF REMOVING THAT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE.
UM, REALLY, REALLY GENERAL MAINTENANCE CONDITION.
ALL CARPORTS MUST BE PROPERLY MAINTAINED IN A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AND NEED APPEARANCE.
KIND OF INTENTIONALLY BROAD ON THAT.
UM, I SEE YOU LOOKING OVER THE ATTORNEY.
MAYBE WE HAVE SOME OTHER IDEAS THERE.
YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY IF, UM, IF YOU LIKE THAT SENTENCE,
UM, AND WHETHER THAT'S ENFORCEABLE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE ONE.
UM, THE DEAL IS WE WOULD WANT TO GET WITH CODE AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS 'CAUSE A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT RELATED TO LIKE HOUSING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU THINK OF THE, YOU KNOW, UH, PEELING PAINT OR CRACKS IN WHATEVER OR ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD SEND A CODE VIOLATION FOR A HOUSE.
HOW WE'RE USING THE LANGUAGE THERE, WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO TRACK
[00:10:01]
THE SAME LANGUAGE FOR, FOR HERE.THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY SIMILAR.
YOU CAN JUST SAY SIMILAR TO, TO THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE, WE CAN SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST IDEAS.
ONCE WE GET INTO WRITING THE ACTUAL CODE, OF COURSE WE'LL REFER TO THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S LEGALLY ACCEPTABLE.
BUT GENERALLY THE IDEA IS TO KEEP CORRUGATED METAL OUT OF IT.
BUT THE IDEA IS THE IDEA IS GOOD AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT.
UM, BUT WE CAN ONCE, ONCE WE GET DIRECTION AND WE'RE, WE'RE DOING AN OMNIBUS, UM, ORDINANCE DOING ALL OF THESE KIND OF CHANGES, WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT.
AND WE WILL GET INTO PROPOSED MATERIALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS WELL AS WE GO ALONG.
UM, SO THAT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO ALL CARPORTS.
UH, NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO CARPORTS VISIBLE FROM A STREET.
UM, SO GENERALLY SOMETIMES PURPOSE STATEMENTS AND CODE CAN BE A LITTLE FLUFFY.
UM, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE SORT OF STATING THE INTENTION, UM, OF THESE REGULATIONS.
UH, SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROVISION IS TO ALLOW CARPORTS TO BE ERECTED BETWEEN A STREET AND A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE WHEN NO OTHER FEASIBLE OPTION EXISTS ON A QUALIFYING RESIDENTIAL LOT.
JUST KIND OF STATING UPFRONT WHAT OUR INTENT IS HERE, WHAT KIND OF OPTIONS EXIST, UM, FOR HOMEOWNERS IN THE CITY? UH, APPLICABILITY, UH, CARPORT BETWEEN A STREET AND A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE WOULD BE LIMITED TO LOTS WHERE THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED BEFORE THE, UH, DATE OF ADOPTION OF THE GDC.
THIS IS WHEN THE CITY FIRST STARTED REQUIRING A TWO CAR GARAGE FOR ALL HOMES.
UM, SO ANY, UH, HOME CONSTRUCTED AFTER THAT DATE, WE WOULD JUST SAY CARPORTS ARE NOT PERMITTED, POINT BLANK PERIOD.
UM, HOWEVER, FOR ANYTHING CONSTRUCTED BEFORE THAT DATE, UM, WE'LL MOVE INTO SOME VERY ROBUST, UM, DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, FOR THOSE CARPORTS.
I THINK THE ORIGINAL IDEA CAME FROM COUNCILMAN BASS DURING THE LAST MEETING THAT IF WE CAN PUT A DATE AND WE THOUGHT IF THE HOME ALREADY HAS A TWO CAR GARAGE, WHICH IF IT WASN'T A REQUIREMENT, THEN IT'S DIFFERENT.
I WAS DRIVING THROUGH, UH, A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THE OTHER DAY AND I SEE A LOT OF HOMES WITH ONE CAR GARAGE.
AND WHILE WE DO WANT TO GIVE THEM OPTIONS, LIKE RYAN SAID, WE WANT THAT TO BE REGULATED.
BUT IF YOU ALREADY HAD A TWO CAR GARAGE AND YOU HAVE A DRIVEWAY WHERE YOU CAN PARK TWO MORE CARS, I THINK THAT COULD BE ENOUGH.
AND THAT IS HOW WE CAN PREVENT SOME MORE UNREGULATED CARPORTS TO SHOW UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN ONE OF THE NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THANK YOU COUNCILMAN VAS FOR, FOR THAT.
UM, YEAH, SO MOVING INTO, UM, JUST THE REALLY BASELINE, UH, DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, UH, PROPOSING A FRONT SETBACK OF FIVE FEET, UH, FOR CARPORTS VISIBLE FROM A STREET, UM, IF YOU HAVE A SIDE STREET SETBACK, SO YOUR SIDE YARD ABUTS A PUBLIC STREET AS WELL.
ALSO A FIVE FOOT SETBACK, UH, ANY INTERIOR SIDE YARD, UH, WOULD ALSO BE A FIVE FOOT SETBACK.
UM, AS FAR AS AREA, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS AT THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS ABOUT, UM, ANY CARPORTS KIND OF BEING PROPORTIONAL TO THE HOME, PROPORTIONAL TO THE GARAGE OF THE HOME, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, SO THIS WAS A, UH, CONDITION WE CAME UP WITH WHEN A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED WITH A TWO CAR GARAGE, UH, YOU GET A MAX OF 20 FEET IN LENGTH AND 20 FEET IN WIDTH, THAT WOULD TAKE YOU UP TO THAT MAX FOR ALL CARPORTS OF 400 SQUARE FEET.
UM, HOWEVER, WHEN THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED WITH A ONE CAR GARAGE, STILL GET THAT MAXIMUM 20 FEET IN LENGTH, BUT ONLY 10 FEET IN WIDTH.
UM, SO TO BORROW ONE OF THE PHOTOS, UM, FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, THIS IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE BACKGROUND, UM, AT THIS HOME WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED WITH A ONE CAR GARAGE.
SO ALTHOUGH THIS STRUCTURE HERE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOME IS VERY NICE TO LOOK AT, THE DRIVEWAY IS GREAT, IT'S WITH THOSE CARPORTS WITHIN THE ENVELOPE OF THE DRIVEWAY, UM, THIS CONDITION WOULD KIND OF REDUCE THAT DOWN TO KIND OF FIT WITH THE SCALE OF THAT ONE CAR GARAGE AND THE MOVING ON TO HEIGHT.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT LAST SLIDE? SURE.
SO, OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT ON HERE, I KNOW WE HAVE 400, AND THEN WE HAVE MAX OF 20 BY 20.
UM, SO JUST THINKING SOME TWO CAR GARAGES ARE ONE BIG DOOR, SOME OF THEM ARE TWO DOORS WITH A, YOU KNOW, PORT IN BETWEEN.
THOSE CAN'T BOTH BE JUST 20 FEET WIDE.
RIGHT? I'M GUESSING THE TWO GARAGE DOORS PORT IN BETWEEN IS PROBABLY WIDER THAN 20 FEET.
SO ARE WE PUTTING SOME LIMITATIONS HERE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME IN WITH VARIANCES WHEN, WHEN THAT'S MEAN, COULD WE REPHRASE IT TO INSTEAD OF BEING A MAX OF T HAVE IT TO THE YEAH, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
YEAH, WE CAN, YEAH, WE'LL TAKE A NOTE.
[00:15:01]
WE CAN FIT, UH, WE'LL ALSO CHECK, I THINK THIS IS 400 IS CURRENT, RIGHT? 400 MAXIMUM IS CURRENT STANDARD, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, RYAN? UM, I'M NOT SURE ON THAT.I, I THINK IT, IT IS 400 MAX THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN OUR STANDARDS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE KIND OF GOING OFF OF.
UH, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE AND THEN WE CAN TWEAK THE LANGUAGE, UM, TO SAY YEAH.
MATCH THE CURRENT WIDTH OF THE GARAGE DOOR.
SO DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW LONG IS LIKE A BIG TRUCK, LIKE A REGULARIZED BED SEEMS TO GET LONGER AND LONGER EACH DAY? YEAH,
YES, THAT'S A GEN REGULAR PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
SO IF YOU JUST PUT THAT IN MIND FOR A GARAGE, IT'S AT LEAST NINE FEET AND NINE FEET.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COUPLE MORE FEET HERE AND THERE.
SO GENERALLY THAT'S THE REGULAR DIMENSION OF A GARAGE, BUT WE'LL LOOK INTO IT SOME MORE.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SETBACKS AND SIDEWALKS.
SO, UM, SOME SIDEWALKS ARE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THAT FIVE FOOT SETBACK.
SO, UM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE NEEDS, WOULD IT BE, SHOULD WE ADD SOME VERBIAGE TO COVER SIDEWALKS SO THAT THEY DON'T IMPEDE UPON THEM IS MY MAIN CONCERN? WELL, I THINK, UM, I WANTED TO FLIP TO THIS SLIDE BECAUSE THE WAY A, THE WAY A SIDEWALK INTERACTS WITH A DRIVEWAY IS ALREADY SORT OF A CONFLICT POINT.
UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE, SO IF YOU HAVE THE SIDEWALK TOO CLOSE TO THE CARPORT, PEOPLE WALKING BY WILL HAVE TO MOVE INTO THE DRIVEWAY IF THE CAR, IF THE CARPORT IS IMPEDING IN THAT SPACE.
YEAH, THAT'S SO MAYBE LIKE A, MY ONLY CONCERN SURE.
LIKE A MINIMUM SEPARATION FROM A SIDEWALK PATH.
CAN DO WHAT? FIVE FOOT SETBACK SAID FIVE FOOT SETBACK.
BUT I'VE SEEN SIDEWALKS THAT ARE LIKE, THERE'S FIVE FEET JUST OF GREEN SPACE AND THEN THE SIDEWALK.
WHEN WE'RE SAYING SETBACK, WE'RE SAYING ESPECIALLY AN OLD SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
OH, I WAS SAYING SETBACK FROM THE, FROM THE CARPORT TO THE SIDEWALK.
NO, THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE THE CASE.
UM, SETBACKS USUALLY MEASURED FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO WE CAN ADD ANOTHER PROVISION THERE TO SAY, TO KIND OF CAPTURE THE INTERACTION WITH THE SIDEWALK.
YEAH, I GUESS THAT WAS SO, YEAH, DEFINITELY.
YEAH, BECAUSE I, I WAS READING THAT AS, OH, IT'S A SIDE STREET.
I SHOULD PROBABLY PUT MY GLASSES ON THAT SIDEWALK.
SO THERE'S NO SIDEWALK BACK ON HERE.
NEXT STEP WE BE ABLE LAWYER, ARE WE FLASHING BACK TO LAST NIGHT? THEN A WRAP, THEN A WRAP? I'LL LOOK.
SO, UH, MOVING ON TO PROPOSED HEIGHT.
SO IF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IS ONE STORY, UH, HEIGHT OF THE CARPORT SHALL NOT EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE PEAK OF THE ROOF OF THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE OR 15 FEET, WHICHEVER IS LESS.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE.
UH, IF THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE IS TWO OR MORE STORIES, HEIGHT OF A CARPORT SHALL NOT EXCEED 15 FEET.
UM, AND THEN HERE WE ARE AT MATERIALS.
UH, SHELBY CONSTRUCTED A MATERIALS OF SIMILAR TYPE SHAPE, SIZE, TEXTURE, AND COLOR OF THE BUILDING MATERIALS OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE.
AND THEN, UH, SPECIFYING THAT NO CARPORTS OF METAL CONSTRUCTION SHALL BE LOCATED BETWEEN A STREET AND A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE.
UM, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SIDEBAR, BUT THIS IS, UH, CLIPPED FROM OUR VERSION OF OUR ZONING ORDINANCE BEFORE THE GDC, UM, THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A CARPORT BEING MADE OF MATERIALS THAT MATCHED THE HOME WAS ACTUALLY IN THE CODE BEFORE THE GDC AND WAS TAKEN OUT.
SO THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN A, A CONCERN, UM, AT LEAST TILL 2006 OR SINCE 2006.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ROOF, WE WENT, UM, PRETTY, PRETTY EXTENSIVE ON THIS ONE.
SO THE ROOF SHALL HAVE A PITCHED ROOF THAT MATCHES THE PITCH OF THE ROOF OF THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE.
SO REALLY MATCHING THE, THE RESIDENTIAL DESIGN, UH, MATERIALS OF THE ROOF MUST ALSO MATCH THOSE OF THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE.
UH, AND THEN EVEN GOING SO FAR AS SPECIFYING A TYPE OF DESIGN OF THE ROOF, UH, OF THE ROOF.
UH, SO IT HAS TO BE EITHER A CLOSED GABLE OR A HIP DESIGN.
UM, THESE ARE JUST TWO, UH, VERY COMMON TYPES OF ROOF DESIGNS IN, IN RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
UM, OR WE COULD ALLOW FOR AN ALTERNATE DESIGN, UM, APPROVED THROUGH A PROPOSED APPEALS PROCESS, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN THE ADMINISTRATION SECTION.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE LIKE ME AND YOU'RE NOT AN ARCHITECT AND YOU HAVE TROUBLE KEEPING TRACK
[00:20:01]
OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROOFS, UH, THIS IS A CLOSED GABLE ROOF.THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE GABLE, UH, AND WHAT MAKES IT CLOSE IS SORT OF THIS PEDIMENT HERE, UM, BEFORE YOU GET TO THE WALL SURFACE, KIND OF CLOSES THAT IN.
UH, AND THEN A HIP ROOF ESSENTIALLY EXTENDS FROM THE TOP POINT OF THE ROOF, UM, STRAIGHT DOWN, UH, WITHOUT ANY SORT OF GABLE.
SO EITHER EITHER OF THOSE ROOF DESIGNS, UM, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, UH, WITH A CARPORT AS LONG AS THEY MATCH THE DESIGN OF THE HOME.
UM, ANOTHER ONE THAT COULD KIND OF RESTRICT FREE STANDING CARPORTS.
SO ONES THAT ARE NOT ATTACHED TO THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE, UH, THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM SEPARATION OF 18 INCHES FROM THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE.
UM, THIS WOULD JUST KIND OF BE TO ENSURE THAT THESE CARPORTS TRULY ARE USED FOR STORAGE OF VEHICLES RATHER THAN SORT OF OUT THERE IN A, A SIDE YARD OR A REAR YARD.
MAYBE, MAYBE PEOPLE ARE STORING, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT TRACTORS, YOU KNOW, LAWNMOWERS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, ACTUALLY DRIVE BY A PRETTY GOOD EXAMPLE, UH, OF THIS KIND OF CONDITION ON MY WAY INTO WORK.
SO YOU CAN SEE THIS HOME HAS ACTUALLY TWO CARPORTS, UH, IN ITS SIDE YARD.
AND THAT, THAT FIRST ONE, UM, THERE ON THE LEFT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S VERY LITTLE SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO STRUCTURES AND IT IS USED TO PARK VEHICLES.
UM, WHEREAS WHEN YOU GET TO THIS GUY
THIS IS, UH, KIND OF DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THAT OTHER CARPORT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE REAR
YEAH, A LOT OF, LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF VEHICLES ON THE SLOT USE THE NUMBER OF CARS ON THE LOT
UM, SO THAT COULD BE ANOTHER CONDITION.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF, UM, THAT KIND OF MAXIMUM SEPARATION CONDITION.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE HOUSE AND ARE USED TO STORE VEHICLES.
AND, UH, AS FAR AS SIDING, UH, FOR CARPORTS VISIBLE FROM A STREET, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT ALL SIDES OF A CARPORT, UH, BETWEEN A STREET AND A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE BE OPEN AND UNOBSTRUCTED EXCEPT FOR THE SUPPORT COLUMNS.
AND THEN WE'RE EVEN, UM, SPECIFYING THAT THOSE SUPPORT COLUMNS CAN OBSTRUCT MORE THAN 15% OF THE AREA OF ANY SIDE.
SO THIS HELPS WITH AESTHETICS.
IT ALSO HELPS WITH VISIBILITY FOR MOTORISTS.
UM, CARPORTS WITH SIDING IN THE FRONT YARD, YOU KNOW, CAN KIND OF REALLY CREATE ISSUES THAT STREET INTERSECTIONS.
UM, AND THEN MOVING ON TO CARPORTS, NOT VISIBLE FROM A STREET, UH, NOT REALLY RECOMMENDING AN APPLICABILITY DATE, UM, FOR THESE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AS MUCH OF A CONCERN.
REAR SETBACK OF 10 FEET, INTERIOR SIDE SETBACK OF FIVE FEET.
UM, SPECIFYING THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM EXISTING CODE.
A CARPORT OF METAL CONSTRUCTION MAY BE LOCATED AT THE REAR OF A PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE, SO LONG AS ACCESS IS PROVIDED FROM A PAVED ALLEY AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
SO, UH, NOT ALLOWING METAL CARPORTS IN THE FRONT AT ALL.
AND THEN IN THE REAR ONLY IF IT'S, UM, ACCESS FROM AN ALLEY.
UM, HEIGHT WOULD BE THE SAME, UH, HEIGHT OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE OR 15 FEET, WHICHEVER IS LESS, UH, OR 15 FEET.
IF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IS TWO OR MORE STORIES, UH, WHEN ATTACHED TO A PRIMARY STRUCTURE, IT COULD BE OPEN ON A MINIMUM OF TWO SIDES, OR WHEN FREESTANDING IT COULD BE OPEN ON A MINIMUM OF THREE SIDES.
UM, AND THIS LAST CONDITION I WANTED TO UNDERLINE BECAUSE IT IS FROM EXISTING CODE ABOUT THE SIDING OF A CARPORT, UH, EXTENDING DOWN A MAXIMUM OF TWO FEET FROM THE ROOF ON THE OPEN SIDES OF THE STRUCTURE.
UM, AND SPEAKING WITH OUR, OUR COLLEAGUES IN BI, THIS IS JUST FOR, UH, FOR THESE SORT OF, UM, GA ROOF TYPE CARPORTS THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BOW OUT AS YOU GET TO THE SIDES.
THAT SIDING THERE ON THE SIDE CAN JUST EXTEND DOWN TWO FEET, UH, AND STILL BE CONSIDERED OPEN.
THAT'S USUALLY SEEN ON METAL CARPORTS.
UM, AND THEN JUST SOME STUFF ABOUT THE EXISTING DEFINITION, UM, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED DEFINITION.
UM, THESE WERE THE EDITS TO THE EXISTING DEFINITION PROPOSED, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, THERE'S A FEW, UH, KIND OF ISSUES WE IDENTIFIED HERE.
UM, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH REDUCING IT FROM TWO AND THREE, FOUR SIDES TO TWO SIDES AND, YOU KNOW, STILL HAVING IT IN THREE SIDES WHEN IT'S DETACHED.
UM, DID JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT USUALLY A DEFINITION IN A CODE WILL TELL YOU WHAT A THING IS, WHETHER THAT'S A CARPORT OR A BUILDING OR A USE OR WHATEVER.
NOT REALLY THE BEST PLACE TO PUT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND KIND OF STRIKING THOSE FROM THIS DEFINITION.
UM, AND THEN LAST TIME, UH, IT WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT WE SAY A CARPORT ANCHORED OR OTHERWISE ATTACHED TO A BUILDING SHALL BE CONSIDERED A BUILDING OR A PORTION OF A BUILDING.
WE WOULD ACTUALLY RECOMMEND THAT IF THIS LANGUAGE STAYS IN THE DEFINITION FOR CARPORT, THAT STRUCK LANGUAGE BE ADDED BACK IN.
UM, IF A CARPORT IS ATTACHED TO A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AND CONSIDERED A BUILDING OR A PORTION OF A BUILDING, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME SETBACKS AS A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IN SOME RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IS LIKE 20 FEET IN THE FRONT YARD RATHER THAN FIVE FEET.
UM, SO THAT COULD, THAT COULD CREATE ISSUES.
[00:25:01]
ONE THING I WANTED TO NOTE BEFORE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST THE LOTS OF DIFFERENT USES THAT ARE SORT OR, UH, TERMINOLOGY THAT'S SORT OF CONFLATED.UM, IN THIS SECTION WE HAVE CARPORTS, WE HAVE CANOPIES, WE HAVE PORTICO SHARES, WE HAVE TALK ABOUT PATIO COVERS.
THESE ARE ALL KIND OF LUMPED TOGETHER.
UM, SO WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS JUST KIND OF SEPARATING ALL OF THESE TERMS, UM, INTO DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS.
UH, THE PROPOSED DEFINITION FOR A CARPORT, JUST VERY SIMPLE, A ROOF STRUCTURE USED FOR VEHICLE, SHELTER AND PARKING.
IT PROVIDES SHELTER FOR A VEHICLE AND THEN IT'S WHERE SOMEONE PARKS.
SO THAT'S USUALLY AT THE, AT THE END OF A DRIVEWAY, RIGHT? UM, CANOPY AND PATIO COVER.
YOU'LL SEE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THE SAME FOR BOTH.
UM, NOT REALLY SURE WHAT A CANOPY MEANS IN THE CONTEXT OF A RESIDENTIAL CARPORT.
THAT'S USUALLY SOMETHING WE'D SEE OVER A COMMERCIAL BUILDING OF SOME KIND.
UM, AND THEN A PATIO COVER IS TO COVER A PATIO, WHICH IS FOR PEOPLE TO HANG OUT ON.
UM, SO WE JUST RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING IF WE REALLY NEED TO DEFINE THESE OR, OR GIVE STANDARDS FOR THEM IN THIS SECTION OF CODE OR IF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE BUILDING CODE OR OR RESIDENTIAL CODE, UM, COVERS THOSE.
UH, AND THEN AS THE BILA MENTIONED, WE DO, UM, HAVE A RECOMMENDED DEFINITION OF PORT CASHIER, UH, WHICH IS A ROOF STRUCTURE ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED WITH AND EXTENDING FROM A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE OVER A DRIVEWAY, ALLOWING VEHICLES TO PASS THROUGH.
SO THIS IS ALWAYS ATTACHED TO A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AND IT DOESN'T REALLY COME AT THE TERMINUS OF A DRIVEWAY.
IT CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, EITHER TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY OR TO A GARAGE OR SOMETHING.
UM, AND THEN I UNDERLINED THE PHRASE ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED WITH, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE FLUFFY FOR OUR FRIENDS IN BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT.
UM, SO TO KIND OF GO INTO SOME MORE INFO ON PORT CASHIERS, I WANTED TO START WITH SOME IMAGES OF WHAT THESE ARE.
BRIAN, IF YOU COULD ON CARPORT.
UM, IT SAYS A ROOF STRUCTURE USED FOR VEHICLE, SHELTER AND PARKING.
I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.
SHOULD SAY OPEN SIDED BECAUSE I MEAN, THE WAY IT'S DESCRIBED RIGHT THERE, A GARAGE, THAT IS A GOOD POINT.
YEAH, I TOOK THOSE OUT OR WE TOOK THOSE OUT.
WE TOOK THOSE OUT, UM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO SIDING CONDITIONS AND A DEFINITION.
UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO DISTINGUISH IT FROM YEAH, A GARAGE.
UM, YEAH, AND THEN JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A VISUAL, UH, DEPICTION OF SOME PORT CASHIER.
SO THIS IS IN THE TRAVIS COLLEGE HILL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IT'S ON 11TH STREET, UM, PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE ROOF PITCH MATCHES THE MATERIALS OF THE ROOF MATCHES.
IT'S SUPPORTED BY MASONRY COLUMNS THAT MATCH THE HOME.
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A ATTACHED GARAGE THERE AT THE END WHERE CARS WILL ULTIMATELY END UP.
THIS IS JUST SORT OF A COVERING WHERE PEOPLE CAN PARK TEMPORARILY, MAYBE TO DROP SOMEBODY OFF, UM, PICK SOMETHING UP FROM THE HOUSE.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, THAT'S A CLOSED GABLE ROOF, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE LOOK AT THIS, UH, PORT CASHIER FROM THE SIDE ON AVENUE D HERE, WE CAN SEE THAT, UH, ROOF DESIGN MATCHES THE PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN 11TH STREET.
UM, DIDN'T GET AS DETAILED WITH THIS ONE, BUT YOU CAN TELL IT'S A SIMILAR, UM, ARCHITECTURAL PERIOD.
THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL HOMES, BY THE WAY,
AND THEN THIS IS, UH, NOT IN GARLAND, BUT, UM, THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A PORT CASHIER WITH A HIP ROOF.
YOU CAN SEE THAT HIP ROOF HERE AND HOW IT MATCHES THE ROOF OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE.
UM, SO, UH, IN OUR REVIEW OF PEER CITIES, A LOT OF CODES ARE JUST SORT OF SILENT ON PORT CASHIERS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REALLY EVER FREE STANDING.
THEY'RE NEVER REALLY ACCESSORY STRUCTURES OR ANYTHING THAT'S JUST SORT OF A ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE OF SOME HOMES.
SO OUR CODE COULD JUST BE SILENT ON THOSE.
BUT AS NABILA SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO GIVE FOLKS MORE OPTIONS, UM, SINCE WE'RE KIND OF CLAMPING OR PROPOSING TO CLAMP DOWN ON CARPORTS, MAYBE FLESHING THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, I JUST INCLUDED PRONUNCIATION KIND OF AS A JOKE 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN PRONOUNCING THIS WORD WRONG MY WHOLE LIFE.
IT'S PORT KHE IS HOW YOU SAY IT.
UM, A LOT OF THESE CONDITIONS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THOSE FOR CARPORTS OR JUST SORT OF, UH, CUSTOMIZED A LITTLE BIT.
SO IT STILL IS ONLY PERMITTED WHEN COVERING INAPPROPRIATE ALL WEATHER DRIVEWAY SURFACE.
UM, I DIDN'T ADD IT HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT WOULD NEED TO BE ACCESSED FROM AN APPROPRIATE ALL WEATHER DRIVEWAY SURFACE.
UM, IT SHALL NOT BE ENCLOSED INTO GARAGE SPACE, LIVING SPACE, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S PART OF A HOME, UM, PLANNING, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE IF THIS, UM, CONDITION ON CONSTRUCTION PLANS NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED.
[00:30:01]
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONFER, UH, AND FIGURE OUT IF WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT SIMILAR SETBACKS.UH, FIVE FOOT FRONT SETBACK, FIVE FOOT SIDE STREET, FIVE FOOT INTERIOR.
UH, TYPICALLY YOU SEE THESE, UH, AT THE FRONT OF A HOME, LIKE MAYBE OVER A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY OR AT THE SIDE OF A HOME.
UM, YOU TYPICALLY DON'T SEE THEM IN THE REAR YARD, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS SPECIFY A REAR SETBACK OF 10 FEET.
UM, HEIGHTS, UH, BEING A LITTLE LESS RESTRICTIVE WITH THESE.
SO IT EITHER NEEDS TO MATCH THE HEIGHT OF THE PEAK OF THE ROOF OR 15 FEET, WHICHEVER IS GREATER.
YOU KNOW, PORT SHARES CAN HAVE THESE BIG, LOVELY GREEK COLUMNS.
YOU KNOW, THEY CAN KIND OF BE A LITTLE MORE OUTSIZED.
UM, SO MAYBE WE WE'RE OKAY IF THIS SUCCEEDS, UH, THE ROOF OF A ONE STORY HOME, FOR EXAMPLE.
UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, STILL LIMITED TO 15 FEET OF TWO OR MORE STORIES.
UH, MINIMUM HEIGHT OF EIGHT FEET FOR ANY KIND OF SUPPORT STRUCTURES.
UM, THIS IS PULLED FROM OUR EXISTING CODE ON NON-RESIDENTIAL CAR, UH, CARPORTS AND PORT CASHIERS.
UM, BUT IT STATES THAT IT CAN BE INSTRUCTED OF BUILDING MATERIALS OF SIMILAR TYPE SHAPE, SIZE, UH, TEXTURE, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME ROOFING CONDITIONS.
UM, AND I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S PULLED FROM OUR NON-RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS.
I KIND OF UNDERLINED SOME LANGUAGE HERE THAT I THOUGHT WAS A LITTLE FLUFFY PERHAPS.
UH, SHELBY SUPPORTED BY COLUMNS THAT ARE ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED WITH.
AND SIMILAR TO THE COLORS OF THE MAIN BUILDING, UH, MAYBE WE WANNA THINK ABOUT MASSAGING THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, ALL SIDES ARE OPEN AND UNOBSTRUCTED.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE THIS CONDITION FOR, UH, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FEED A ROOF, UH, A SIDING CAN EXTEND FROM THE ROOF, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE OF LIKE A MASONRY STRUCTURE.
MAYBE WE WANNA CHANGE, UH, SIDING TO WALL OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, KIND OF COVERING THAT AREA THERE, UH, WITH THAT LAST CONDITION.
AND THEN JUST SOMETHING FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE KIND OF, UH, OPENING UP THE RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS FOR CARPORTS, UM, THESE ARE OUR STANDARDS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL CARPORTS.
THEY KIND OF HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CONFLATION OF TERMINOLOGY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, MIGHT WANT TO, UH, LOOK AT THAT AT EITHER, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS, UH, POTENTIAL CODE AMENDMENT OR AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND THEN ONTO JUST SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CONSIDERATIONS.
UM, SO PLANNING, UH, LIKE NA BELA SAID, WE REALLY RECOMMEND THAT BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND CODE COMPLIANCE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEW, FOR PERMITTING, FOR INSPECTION OF CARPORTS.
AND, UH, IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT PORT SHARES, THAT COULD ALSO BE ON THE LIST.
UM, HOWEVER, WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO WORK WITH, UH, OUR COLLEAGUES TO ENSURE THAT THESE STANDARDS ARE OBJECTIVE AND FALL WITHIN THEIR TYPICAL ACCEPTABLE PARAMETERS FOR REVIEW, FOR INSPECTION, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
UM, KIND OF JUST REITERATING SOME OF THE, THE PROPOSALS THAT WERE MADE AT THE LAST HEARING, BUT REQUIRING A PERMIT FOR RESIDENTIAL CARPORTS, MAYBE FOR PORT CASHIERS, OR IF THOSE ARE ALWAYS ATTACHED, MAYBE THAT'S JUST UNDER A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMIT.
UH, AND THEN REITERATING THAT APPEALS PROCESS.
SO FOLKS WOULD FIRST GO TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, UH, AND THEN IF THEY DON'T LIKE THAT ANSWER, THEY COULD GO TO THE UNIFIED BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION.
ANY LOT SIZE ISSUES WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE FROM BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
AND THEN THIS LAST ONE IS AN ADDITION SINCE WE'RE, UM, REQUIRING CERTAIN ROOFING STYLES.
IF, UH, FOLKS WANTED TO DO AN ALTERNATE ROOF DESIGN THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY APPROVED VIA AN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE REQUEST, UH, WHICH WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.
UM, AND THEN JUST ONE OTHER RANDOM THING THAT WAS FLOATING OUT THERE THAT I NOTICED, UM, AT THE LAST HEARING, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BASS, YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT STRUCTURAL STANDARDS FOR ATTACHED CARPORTS, I THINK RELATIVE TO THE REAR YARD.
YOU HAD MENTIONED AN EXAMPLE OF FROM PLANO MAYBE, AND I, I WASN'T SURE WHAT WAS DISCUSSED THERE, BUT I DID KIND OF JUST WANNA PUT A PIN IN THAT FOR, JUST SO WE DON'T FORGET WHATEVER THAT IS,
UM, AND I WILL HAND IT BACK OVER TO THIS LADY.
UM, SO KIND OF WRAP IT UP, UH, BIG RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF THE HOME WAS BUILT AFTER 2015, YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE A CARPORT.
UM, YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE A CARPORT AND VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, BUT YOU CAN HAVE IT IN YOUR RE YARD, YOUR YARD.
UM, THAT HOMES THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO 2015, RYAN HAS GONE OVER A LOT OF DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE.
WE CAN THINK WE CAN, ONCE WE HAVE PUT IT IN AN AMENDMENT FORMAT, I THINK THE COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL AND PLAN COMMISSION, WHOEVER IT GOES TO, Y'ALL WILL HAVE A CLEAR VISION OF HOW IT CAN BE INCORPORATED.
AND OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH BI AND CODE TO MAKE SURE IT CAN BE REVIEWED FOR PERMITTING AND ENFORCED BY QUOTE.
UH, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S OBJECTIVE ENOUGH FOR THAT.
UM, AGAIN, WE, WE ARE FOCUSING VERY MUCH ON AESTHETICS, UM, VISIBILITY FROM THE STREETS.
THAT'S, THAT HAS BEEN OUR MAIN FOCUS.
AND AGAIN, DEFINITIONS AND TERMS. UM, NOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO IT REALLY DEEPLY, WE ARE SEEING THAT THERE'S JUST SO MUCH THAT CAN BE CLEANED UP, UH,
[00:35:01]
IN THERE AND OPPORTUNITIES TO SEPARATE THINGS.FOR EXAMPLE, PORT CASHIER, AM I SAYING IT RIGHT? PORT SHARE, PORT CASHIER, UM, CAN BE, CAN BE A, CAN BE A TOOL.
IT HAS BEEN IN OUR CODE, JUST NOT PROPERLY DEFINED, NOT PROPERLY USED.
COULD BE A TOOL FOR PEOPLE TO STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING PLACE OR HAVE THAT OPTION INTEGRATED WITH THEIR HOME, BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY DEGRADE THE AESTHETICS IN ANY WAY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLORE.
UM, SO JUST, THOSE ARE OUR BIG, BIG IDEAS.
AND THEN WE THINK AS WE PIN DOWN THE RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS, UM, WE WILL ALSO LIKE TO NOT BORROW, BUT KIND OF THINK ABOUT THE, HOW THAT THOSE COULD BE IMPLEMENTED FOR THE NON-RESIDENTIAL CARPORTS AS WELL.
BECAUSE WE WANT THE WHOLE CITY TO HAVE SIMILAR AESTHETICS AND STANDARDS.
AND THAT WOULD HELP CODE, CODE COMPLIANCE TOO, TO NOT HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH TWO DIFFERENT SET OF STANDARDS.
SO WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO TAKE A STAB AT THOSE AT THE SAME TIME, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COMMITTEE.
AND AGAIN, UM, WE CURRENTLY, WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATING THAT THERE'LL BE A NEED FOR A CARPORT PERMIT TO COME TO PLANNING, BUT IF WE COLLECTIVELY SEE THERE'S A BENEFIT THEN WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SALESFORCE, THAT COULD BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE STREAMLINED THEN WHAT IT IS TODAY.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, BI WILL HAVE TO SEND US AN EMAIL, THEY'LL HAVE TO PUT A DUE DATE, WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP A DUE DATE ON OUR SPREADSHEET.
IT JUST BECOMES A BIG PROCESS.
BUT I THINK IF IT, WE'LL TRY TO AVOID THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND KEEP IT AS OBJECTIVE AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR, UH, FOR OUR, UM, BIE FOLKS.
BUT, UM, IF THAT IS NEEDED PER COMMITTEE'S CONSIDERATION WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF SALESFORCE, WE THINK IT'LL BE A LITTLE EASIER THAN BEFORE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE I WANTED TO END.
AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND KIND OF GATHER, LIKE KIND OF RECEIVE YOUR THOUGHTS AND MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE.
COMMITTEE, I, I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE 20 FOOT LENGTH AND I LOOKED UP THE LENGTH OF MY TRUCK.
IT'S ONLY 17, SO THAT'S GONNA COVER THE WHOLE TRUCK WITH A SPARE.
I HAVE A PLAN TO PUT IN A CARPORT BECAUSE I PUT BOTH OF OUR CARS IN THE GARAGE TO KEEP 'EM SAFE FROM TEXAS WEATHER.
AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WHEN WE FIRST GOT HERE WITH MY WIFE THAT WE HAD SO MUCH JUNK, WE CAN'T GET A CAR IN THE GARAGE.
THE JUNK HAS GOTTA GO, NOT THE CAR IN THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, BUT YEAH, THE 20, AND I THINK THE, SO I THINK THAT FOUR, I WAS A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THAT 20 BY 20 SIZE, BUT THEN I STARTED LOOKING AT SIZES OF AVERAGE TRUCKS AND YEAH, YOU CAN GET ONE THAT'S LONGER THAN 20 FEET.
BUT, UH, TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT THE, NOT THE CASE STANDARD FOR MOST RESIDENTIAL VEHICLES.
SO THE CARPORT WOULD COVER THAT PRIMARILY.
SO THAT WAS REALLY THE, MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE THING.
AND THEN I, I THINK THAT THE SETBACK SHOULD WORK, YOU KNOW, I, ON THE NORTH SIDE WE HAVE ALMOST EVERYBODY'S GOT AN ALLEY AND SO THOSE ARE, YOU'RE ENTERING FROM THE ALLEY ANYWAY, BEING ABLE TO SET BACK FAR ENOUGH WHERE YOU CAN STILL MAKE THE TURN AND GET IN THE DRIVEWAY.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE BACK SOME A LITTLE BIT ANYWAY.
YOU JUST COULDN'T HARDLY GET IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
I THINK I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH MOST OF THIS.
I FOUND MOST TRUCKS, THEY HAVE MOST, UH, CHEVY RAM, TOYOTA ALL HAVE FORD, ALL HAVE TRUCK.
ABOUT 22 IS, UH, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW.
I WAS THINKING THAT A, UH, THAT A STANDARD TWO CAR GARAGE WAS 22.
NO, THAT'S A, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A GARAGE MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM WIDTH OR LENGTH.
HOW WE GENERALLY THINK OF IT IS FROM THE STANDARDS OF A PARKING SPACE DIMENSION.
AND WE JUST, FOR A GARAGE, IT JUST HAS A COUPLE MORE FEET TO NAVIGATE.
UM, SO GENERALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE TO APPLY, UM, IS SO 20 BY 20 IS PRETTY STANDARD FOR A GARAGE THOUGH.
UM, WE CAN TRY TO LOOK UP SOME MORE IF OTHER PEER CITIES HAVE SOMETHING BIGGER THAN THAT AND KIND OF PRESENT THAT IDEA.
BUT 20 BY 20 SHOULD COVER MOST VEHICLES IN OUR OPINIONS.
BUT WE'LL PUT IT ON OUR LIST TO LOOK UP IF SOME CITY HAS, SOME CITIES HAVE SOME KIND OF ENHANCED, UM, WIDTH FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I REALLY CARE ABOUT OTHER CITIES, UM, IN THAT RESPECT.
THE CITY OF GARLAND HAS A PLETHORA OF, UH, LONG, LARGE TRUCKS.
SO I THINK THAT IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.
[00:40:01]
THE SETBACK AND THE SIDEWALK.I WOULD BE FINE WITH IT BEING 22 FEET.
UM, SO REALLY THE LENGTH IS WHAT'S IN YEAH.
UM, WHAT'S THE CONCERN HERE? CORRECT.
WELL, I WOULD, WELL I THINK THAT, YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, THE WIDTH BE BASED UPON THE WIDTH OF THE GARAGE.
AND THE LENGTH BASED UPON I WOULD SAY 22 FEET.
NOW I SAY THAT AND THEN YOU SHOWED ME A PICTURE, YOU SHOWED ME A PICTURE OF A CARPORT THAT WASN'T ATTACHED TO A GARAGE.
AND I GUESS I'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT A CARPORT BEING ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, NOT NEXT TO THE GARAGE.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER CAN OF WORMS THERE.
IF WE SAY IT'S THE WIDTH OF THE GARAGE, WELL THEN THE IN THE GARAGE IS, YOU KNOW, NOT WHERE THE CARPORT IS, THEN HOW DO WE RIGHT.
DEAL WITH THAT? I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN HERE, UH, THAT THERE COULD BE LONGER VEHICLES.
WE'LL LOOK INTO IT AND FIND A SOLUTION TO THAT.
I THINK, UM, LET US WORK ON IT.
JUST ANOTHER, ANOTHER KIND OF DIMENSION, UM, TO THAT.
I THINK NABILA COVERED IT, BUT UM, YEAH.
YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE EXAMPLES WE'VE SEEN HAVE BEEN LIKE SF FIVE, SF SEVEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE THINKING ABOUT MORE OF A RURAL STYLE OF RESIDENTIAL.
SOME OF, SOME OF THE PICTURES I SHOWED EARLIER, UM, YEAH.
THAT HAVE MORE LAND TO WORK WITH.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE ALSO IN THE CITY, UM, AND NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.
BUT, UM, IF REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S A LARGE LOT, A SMALL, A SMALL LOT A STATE, AGRICULTURAL, WHATEVER, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE TO STILL HAVE LIKE A STANDARD DIMENSION OF CARPORTS AND THEY CAN'T EXCEED THAT RIGHT.
THAT COULD COVER LARGER GAS OR SOMETHING.
UM, AS, AS WE TALK ABOUT PORT RICO SHARES, UH, SEPARATELY, UM, I DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE MATERIALS IS, ARE, ARE REALLY, UM, STRICT, MEANING THAT WHATEVER IT'S ATTACHED TO THE ROOF, UH, UM, THE ROOF MATERIAL MATCHES.
AND THE MATERIAL THAT THE PORT SHARE IS MADE OF
IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE HOME.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND A LITTLE BIT OF FLUFF BECAUSE WE ARE SAYING AESTHETICALLY INTEGRATED, BUT SOMEONE MIGHT SAY WHAT IS AESTHETICALLY INTEGRATED? IT NEEDS TO MATCH.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA ADD, IF WE WENT WITH THAT, WE WILL ADD ILLUSTRATIONS OF HOW IT NEEDS TO MATCH AND HOW THE RELATIONSHIP OF THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
SO THAT WILL, WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF GO DEEPER INTO HOW WE'LL ENSURE AESTHETICALLY OR ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED CAN BE OBJECTIVE ENOUGH.
BUT YES, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT FOR IT TO BE A PART OF THE STRUCTURE AND NOT SOMETHING SEPARATE.
I, MY HUSBAND ALSO HAS A NOR NO STORAGE UNIT POLICY
UM, IF WE HAVE TO GET A STORAGE UNIT, WE NEED TO GET RID OF THINGS, NOT GET A STORAGE UNIT
SO, UM, THE OTHER THING YOU ASKED US FOR WAS DIRECTION ON COMMERCIAL OR NON-RESIDENTIAL CARPORTS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT SEPARATELY IF POSSIBLE.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO, THIS IS ALREADY A LOT OF, UM, WORK, SO I WOULD LIKE TO TACKLE THAT SEPARATELY AND IN FACT, AFTER WE FINISH WITH RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH, THAT'LL WORK OUT TOO BECAUSE MOST OF THE THINGS COULD BE TRANSFERRED OVER.
SO ONCE WE HAVE LOCKED IN OUR RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS, UM, YEAH, WE CAN, WE'LL, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR CARPORTS COMMITTEE? ME.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S REALLY HAPPY WITH THIS.
ID HAD THAT IN THERE, BUT THERE'S THIS LIKE 1985 OR SOMETHING.
UM, NEXT ITEM IS THREE B REVIEW CHAPTER 32.50 OF THE GARLAND GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THIS WAS REQUESTED BY, FOR REFERRAL BY MAYOR PRO, TIM MARGARET LUTON, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON, JANUARY 9TH, 2026.
SO WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT WE CANNOT COVER THIS TOPIC TODAY AS IT WAS IMPROPERLY POSTED.
IT'LL BE AT THE APRIL MEETING.
AND SO AFTERWARDS, IF YOU COULD, UM,
[00:45:01]
LET ME KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS IN THOSE, OH, I'LL LET YOU KNOW EXACTLY DEFINITIONS THAT WE NEED TO COVER.IT WAS, IT WAS LISTED AS GDC RATHER THAN CODE OF ORDINANCES.
ALRIGHT, THAT LEAVES US FOR ADJOURNMENT AT 5 31.