[00:00:10] MARCH 16TH, 2026 WORK SESSION OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP [ CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA] TONIGHT? YES, SIR. SPEAKER SIGNED UP. ALL RIGHT, VERY WELL. MOVE ON TO CONSIDER THE CONSENT AGENDA. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY REQUESTS TO REMOVE ANY ITEMS, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE UNTIL [1. Grant Disbursement Agreement - Garland Housing Finance Corporation] TOMORROW TO DO SO. MOVE ON THEN. FIRST ITEM FOR WRITTEN BRIEFINGS. ITEM NUMBER ONE. GRANT DISBURSEMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE GARLAND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS [2. Repeal of Article V. Street Improvements and Assessments of Chapter 31 of the Code of Ordinances] REPEAL OF ARTICLE FIVE. STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND ASSESSMENTS OF CHAPTER 31 OF THE CODE OF [3. Repeal of Article VI. Drainage Improvement Districts and Drainage Participation Projects of Chapter 31 of the Code of Ordinances] ORDINANCES. AND ITEM NUMBER THREE IS REPEAL OF ARTICLE SIX. DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS AND DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION PROJECTS OF CHAPTER 31 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. ALL RIGHT. [4. Fireworks Enforcement Review] WITH NO QUESTIONS THEN MOVE ON TO VERBAL BRIEFINGS. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS FIREWORKS ENFORCEMENT REVIEW. ALL RIGHT. NO FIGHTING WHILE YOU GUYS ARE UP THERE. YOU KNOW. YEAH, EXACTLY. I GET LAST WORD. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT FIREWORKS. I THOUGHT I'D FIRST START OFF WITH KIND OF GOING OVER THE ORDINANCE. AND THIS IS NOT ALL THE ORDINANCE, BUT THIS IS THE MAIN PART OF THE ORDINANCE, THAT IT'S UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO TRANSPORT, SELL, OFFER FOR SALE, OFFER TO ANOTHER, RECEIVE, POSSESS, KEEP, STORE, USE, HANDLE, DISCHARGE, DETONATE, EXPLODE, IGNITE FIREWORKS WITHIN THE CITY LIMIT. AND I WANTED TO GO OVER THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE I THINK I WILL BE PART OF A DISCUSSION LATER, BUT. PART OF THE ORDINANCE IS THAT WE HAVE TO PROVE WHO THE PERSON IS THAT'S IN POSSESSION, OR THAT IT'S IGNITING THE FIREWORK, WHICH IS SOMETIMES HARD TO DO. NOW WE GOT ASKED FOR STATISTICS ON HOW MANY CITATIONS WE'VE WRITTEN AND HOW MUCH IT HAS COST. SO WE STARTED A TASK FORCE. NOT LONG AFTER COVID TO ADDRESS FIREWORKS, BOTH ON NEW YEAR'S EVE AND ON JULY 4TH. AND THOSE ARE THE TOTAL CITATIONS WE'VE WRITTEN SINCE 2022. SO ABOUT 40 CITATIONS A YEAR. AS FAR AS COST, WE WE DO THE TASK FORCE MODEL. AND SO I WOULD SAY IT'S SOFT COST. WE ARE NOT SPENDING OVERTIME TO PUT OFFICERS ON THE STREET TO WORK. TASK TO WORK. FIREWORK ENFORCEMENT. THEY ARE ADJUSTING THEIR SCHEDULE TO WORK. FIREWORKS ENFORCEMENT. BUT THAT'S HOW WE DO MOST THINGS WITH TASK FORCE MODELS. WE'RE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW TO ADDRESS RACING. FOR EXAMPLE, IS WE'LL TAKE SOME OFFICERS OUT OF THEIR REGULAR ASSIGNMENT. WE'LL PUT THEM IN A TASK FORCE AND THEY'LL ADDRESS A SPECIFIC PROBLEM. NOW, IF WE WERE NOT HAVING FIREWORKS TASK FORCE, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY WE ELIMINATED FIREWORKS TASK FORCE, WE WOULD STILL TAKE THOSE SAME OFFICERS AND WE WOULD PUT THEM ON THE STREET ON NEW YEAR'S EVE. AND ON JULY 4TH, WE WERE THAT BUSY ON THOSE TWO DAYS. THOSE ARE OUR TWO BUSIEST DAYS OF THE YEAR. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF A BIG OVERVIEW. I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE DISCUSSION, BUT THAT'S KIND OF BIG OVERVIEW OF BOTH THE COST OF THE FIREWORKS TASK FORCE AND THE NUMBER OF CITATIONS ISSUED. FIRE DEPARTMENT. OKAY, I CAN CLICK IT FOR YOU. I GOT THIS ONEE RIGHT HERE. TOTAL FIREWORKS RELATED CALLS FROM 2020 TO 2025 WAS 115. 65 OF THOSE INCIDENTS WERE DIRECTLY RELATED TO ON OR ABOUT JULY 4TH OR DECEMBER 31ST. SO WE WENT 65 INCIDENTS, THE HIGHEST YEAR, 2022 LOWEST YEAR WAS 2024, WHICH WAS 12 INCIDENTS. BUT NEARLY ALL OF THOSE WERE ON JULY 4TH ITSELF. WE. WE FIND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE BUY THEIR FIREWORKS EARLY AND GET REALLY ANXIOUS AND HAVE TO SET THEM OFF TO LET US KNOW IT'S JULY 3RD AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING AGAIN ON THE FOURTH AND THEN THE FIFTH AND THE SIXTH, AND THEY STILL GOT SOME LEFT OVER. SO SEVENTH, EIGHTH AND NINTH AND ESPECIALLY 2022, I BELIEVE IT WAS MOST COMMON CALL TYPE IS OUTSIDE RUBBISH FIRE. OF THE INCIDENTS 56% WERE FIRE RELATED, 44% WERE NON-FIRE RELATED. IF YOU CLICK US OVER THERE, THIS IS THE INJURY STATISTICS. OVER THAT SAME FIVE YEAR PERIOD, WE ONLY HAD A TOTAL OF SEVEN EMS CALLS, WITH 4 IN 2021 RELATED TO FIREWORKS. THESE INJURIES OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE [00:05:07] SELF-INFLICTED IN MOST CASES, AND THEY TYPICALLY DON'T CALL 911 FOR THAT. IF THEY NEED TREATMENT, THEY TAKE THEM TO AN ER OR AN URGENT CARE OR A LOT OF TIMES JUST GO PUT SOME ICE ON IT, BUT ONLY SEVEN INCIDENTS HAVE BEEN RELATED TO FIREWORKS IN THAT FIVE YEAR SPAN. AGAIN, THAT'S THE END. SO THAT IS A BIG HIGH LEVEL VIEW. I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ESTIONS AND DISCUSSION, SO I'LL I GUESS WE DIDN'T HAVE THE END PRESENT, BUT THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTIONS PAGE. I JUST REALIZED THAT WE'LL START WITH START WITH, WELL, I GUESS WE'LL WRAP IT UP. YOU KNOW, JUST. ANY QUESTIONS, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. SO CHIEF BRIAN, ON THE CITATIONS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NOTICEABLE DROP THERE IN 2025. I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 25% LESS THAN THE AVERAGE OF THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS. DID YOU HAVE YOUR ACCOUNT HOW YOU HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT? WELL, IT'S THE SAME. I CAN ACCOUNT FOR IT THE SAME EVERY JULY 4TH, EVERY NEW YEAR'S EVE, WHICH IS. AND IN FACT, I WORKED NEW YEAR'S EVE 2025. I DIDN'T WORK THIS PAST NEW YEAR'S EVE. I GUESS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 2024, NEW YEAR'S EVE GOING INTO 2025. BUT IT'S THE SAME IS THAT THE PRIORITY CALLS TAKE OVER. SO WE HAVE TASK FORCE OFFICERS AND THEY'RE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE FIREWORKS. BUT USUALLY WHAT TAKES OVER FOR US THAT PULLS US AWAY FROM FIREWORK ENFORCEMENT OR HIGH PRIORITY CALLS IN THE GUNSHOT DISTURBANCES. AND THAT HAPPENED THIS PAST NEW YEAR'S EVE. SO THIS PAST NEW YEAR'S EVE, WE HAD A TASK FORCE OFFICER THAT WITNESSED AN INDIVIDUAL WITH AN AR 15 SHOOTING AROUND 40 ROUNDS IN THE AIR. AND SO HE CALLS FOR ASSISTANCE. THEY SURROUND THE HOUSE. IT'S A BIG LONG CALL, TIES UP OUR MANPOWER, AND WE EVENTUALLY ARREST THE INDIVIDUAL AND SEIZE THE WEAPON. BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THE WORK ISN'T OUT THERE TO WRITE TICKETS. WE COULD WRITE A THOUSAND TICKETS. IT'S THE CALL LOAD OVERWHELMS OUR TASK FORCE AND WE'RE LEFT ANSWERING THE HIGHER PRIORITY CALLS. PARTY ONE AND PARTY TWO CALLS. OKAY. DO YOU THINK THE YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME SIDE YARD SIGNS MADE ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE FINES FOR FIREWORKS AND FOR FIARMS. DO YOU THINK THOSE HAVE HAD ANY IMPACT? I THINK IT DID INITIALLY. I THINK IT DID INITIALLY. IN FACT, IF YOU WHEN I WORKED NEW YEAR'S EVE LAST NEW YEAR'S EVE, I ASKED THE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE WROTE SOME TICKETS AND I ASKED THEM, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW? EVERYONE WE ASKED SAYS, YES, WE'RE AWARE. AND SO I THINK IT IT HAD A GOOD EDUCATIONAL IMPACT INITIALLY, AND WE STILL HAVE THOSE SIGNS. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THOSE SIGNS OUT IN THEIR YARDS, WE STILL HAVE THEM. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SHOOTING IT NOW, I THINK THEY KNOW IT'S AGAINST THE LAW THERE. SO NO REAL THERE. JUST AT THIS POINT I, I DON'T SEE MUCH FOR 12 AND 20, 26. THAT WAS SOME AROUND NEW YEAR'S DAY. RIGHT. SO THAT'S NEW YEAR'S DAY. THAT'S AFTER MIDNIGHT. AND AGAIN, SO THEY'RE WRITING CITATIONS. AND THAT'S WHENUR INCIDENT HAPPENED. IT JUST PULLED EVERYONE OFF AND AND THEY ADDRESSED THAT. AND THEN THE NIGHT GOES SO FAST. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO EXPLAIN. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE EVER INTERESTED IN REALLY SEEING WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A GPD OFFICER RIGHT OUT ON NEW YEAR'S EVE, AND EVEN THE NIGHT THAT I RODE, YOU KNOW, WE WROTE THE ONE CITATION AND WE WROTE HER A CITATION RIGHT BEFORE MIDNIGHT, AND THEN MIDNIGHT HIT AND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD LIT UP. AND IT WAS AND EVEN LOOKED AT MY PARTNER, I'M LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE WHOLE NIGHT ON THIS STREET. BUT THEN THE CALLS TAKE OVER AND WE, WE WERE GOING TO A FAMILY DISTURBANCE CALL AND YOU'RE PASSING BY PEOPLE SHOOTING FIREWORKS. SO I'M SURE IF YOU'RE A NEIGHBOR, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SQUAD CAR GO BY AND YOU'RE LIKE, GARLAND DOESN'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THE FACT THEY'RE SHOOTING FIREWORKS. BUT IT'S THE HIGHER PRIORITY CALLS THAT JUST TAKE OVER OUR CALL LOAD, AND WE HAVE TO HANDLE THOSE CALLS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE FIGHT EVERY, EVERY NEW YEAR'S AND JULY 4TH. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY THAT WHY THAT DROPPING. IT'S LIKE THERE'S OTHER HIGHER PRIORITIES THAT AREN'T, AREN'T A PART OF THE STATISTICS HERE. AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JULY 4TH AND NEW YEAR'S EVE, JULY 4TH. IT KIND OF BUILDS THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND WE SEE FIREWORKS AND WE WRITE CITATIONS. WE'RE MUCH BETTER AT HANDLING THE CALL LOAD ON JULY 4TH. ON NEW YEAR'S EVE, IT JUST HAPPENS AT MIDNIGHT. AT MIDNIGHT, EVERYONE GOES INSANE, YOU KNOW, IT'S. AND SO WE'RE LEFT SCRAMBLING, TRYING TO TRYING TO PRIORITIZE WHAT'S OUT THERE, PRIORITIZE WHAT'S. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SIR. YES, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER DUNN SO I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THIS THIS HOT TOPIC EVERY YEAR. IT IS A HOT TOPIC. AND WE WE HAVE A RUNDOWN EVERY YEAR. THE REASON WHY IT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO US THIS YEAR IS BECAUSE DALLAS PD [00:10:04] MADE A POST THAT WAS POSTED ON CHRISTMAS DAY, AND THEN A FEW DAYS AFTER THAT, PRETTY RELIGIOUSLY THAT SAYS FIREWORKS ARE NOT A911 EMERGENCY CALL. ONLY CALL 911 IF THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE THREAT TO LIFE OR SAFETY. SO IN THAT MOMENT IS WHAT KIND OF MADE ME PONDER IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED TO CALL 911 IN GARLAND ON A BUSY HOLIDAY, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME TROUBLE GETTING THROUGH. WE HAVE AMAZING DISPATCHERS, BUT THEY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. OUR CALL TAKERS, THEY THEY THEY DO THEIR BEST TO GET TO EVERYONE. HOWEVER, ON ON THESE BUSY CELEBRATORY HOLIDAYS, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE DIFFICULT. AND SO THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP THIS YEAR WAS JUST TO KIND OF POINT OUT THE, THE CALL VOLUME VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF CITATIONS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAND OUT. AND WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS OF THAT? AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE STORY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THAT WAS ACTUALLY SHOOTING OFF BULLETS. I, I AM NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT BY PROFESSION. SO, BUT COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL ME THAT I WOULD RATHER YOU GO AFTER THE GUYS WITH BULLETS THAN THE GUYS WITH FIREWORKS. I ALSO FEEL LIKE THERE'S A VERY COMMON MISCONCEPTION THAT THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF HOUSE FIRES CAUSED BY FIREWORKS, SO THAT IS A CHIEFLY QUESTION. DO YOU DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY HOUSE FIRES WE'VE HAD THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED TO FIREWORKS IN THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD? I WAS COUNTING THEM, AND I THINK THERE WERE 12 THAT WERE CODED AS A HOUSE FIRE. BUT READING THE NARRATIVES ON THEM, ONE OF THEM WAS WE WENT MUTUAL AID TO RICHARDSON AND FILLED THEIR AIR BOTTLES FOR THEM. SO IT WASN'T EVEN A GARLAND CALL. OTHERS WERE. THE NARRATIVE SAID IT WAS GRASS IN THE BACKYARD THAT WAS ON FIRE. ANOTHER ONE WAS A SHED IN THE BACKYARD THAT WAS ON FIRE HOUSE FIRES IN THIS FIVE YEAR PERIOD, I DIDN'T FIND ANY THAT WERE ACTUAL. LET'S LAY A LINE TO THE PLUG AND HAVE 20 PEOPLE THERE FIGHTING FIRE. FANTASTIC. AND SO ALSO, PART OF THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE AND AND FIRE CLUB, WE HAD ONE OF THE ATF AGENTS COME OUT AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY CAUSES FIRE. AND IT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE, THE RED PART OF ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE THAT'S CATCHING MATERIAL ON FIRE. IT IS THE VAPORS CAUSED FROM THE HEAT AND THE MATERIAL. AND THERE'S A REASON WHY IN THE MOVIES, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN THROW A CIGARETTE ON GASOLINE AND IT EXPLODES. IF YOU DO THAT IN REAL LIFE, IT DOESN'T, BECAUSE THE HEAT OF THAT CIGARETTE BUTT IS NOT HOT ENOUGH TO CAUSE FIRE. RIGHT? SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE POINT OF THAT WAS A FIREWORK IS NOT FIRECRACKER DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH HEAT TO, TO CATCH YOUR HOUSE ON FIRE UNLESS YOU'RE DOING IT TO YOUR OWN HOUSE, IN YOUR BACKYARD, IN YOUR SHED, IN YOUR GRASS, RIGHT? THE AERIAL FIREWORKS POSE A BIT MORE WORRY BECAUSE OF LEAF DEBRIS THAT IS IN SOMEONE'S RAIN GUTTERS. AN AERIAL FIREWORK THAT GOES UP AND DOESN'T GO QUITE HIGH ENOUGH AND EXPLODES, CAN PUT AN EMBER INTO THAT DUFF, IF YOU WILL, AND IGNITE. AND THEN THE FASCIA BOARD GOES INTO THE ATTIC. SO WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THOSE, BUT MESQUITE JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO HAD TWO HOUSES BURNED DOWN FROM THE SKY. LANTERNS, WHICH ARE AN OIL BASED PRODUCT THAT HAS GOT A CANOPY, AND IT MAKES A BEAUTIFUL BALLOON AND A LIGHT GOING THROUGH THE NIGHTTIME SKY. BUT THE WINDS WERE ABOUT 20 MILES AN HOUR, AND THEY HAD THEM DROP DOWN INTO THE TREE. AND THE TREE CAUGHT ON FIRE, WHICH CAUGHT THE HOUSES ON FIRE ON EITHER SIDE OF IT. SO AERIAL FIREWORKS ARE A BIGGER CONCERN THAN GROUND LEVEL FIREWORKS AND LANTERNS ARE A BIGGER CONCERN. AND MOST MOST OF THE INJURIES, A LOT OF TIMES THAT WE SEE ARE LITTLE KIDS AND OF ALL THINGS, BECAUSE MOST OF YOU HAVE DONE IT WITH KIDS SPARKLERS BECAUSE SPARKLER BURNS AT ABOUT 1200 DEGREES, AND SOME LITTLE KID AT SOME POINT THINKS THEY NEED TO TOUCH THAT. THEY GET A LITTLE BURN AND SOMETIMES THEY CALL US, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. WHICH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT PEOPLE TO CALL, BUT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE INCIDENCES THAT WE WANT YOU TO CALL BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY DO NEED HELP. VERSUS IN DALLAS POST, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT ARGUE THAT IT IT'S BAD AND THEY SHOULDN'T PUT THAT OUT. BUT MY, MY DISAGREEMENT OF THAT VIEW WOULD BE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO NEED THE HELP CAN'T GET THROUGH BECAUSE WE'VE GOT 150 CALLS BECAUSE SOMEWHERE, [00:15:06] SOMEWHERE SOMEONE IS SHOOTING OFF FIREWORKS. AND IF WE CAN'T ACTUALLY LOCATE THAT, WE LITERALLY HAVE OUR OFFICERS OUT CHASING THEIR TAILSLS. AND SO THAT IS MY CONCERN AND THAT IS WHAT I AM. I AM HOPEFUL THAT ONE DAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAYBE CHANGE, CHANGE THE NARRATIVE OF THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE OUR CALL TAKERS JUST BOGGED DOWN WITH CALLS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A CITATION TO. AND SO THAT WAS THE MAIN, THE MAIN GIST OF THIS. DO YOU BY CHANCE KNOW HOW MANY CALLS WE GET ON AN AVERAGE ON A 4TH OF JULY? ABOUT 300. OKAY. SO IF YOU EVER IF YOU LOOK AT WE'VE GOT 300 CALLS COMING IN ON 4TH OF JULY, WE WROTE 12 CITATIONS. I WOULD MUCH RATHER THAT THAT PEOPLE CALL BECAUSE OF BULLETS, BECAUSE OF YOUR CHILD GOT A LITTLE TOO CLOSE TO THE SPARKLER. AND SO I, I APPRECIATE THE NUMBERS AND HOWEVER WE CAN HELP MITIGATE THAT SITUATION. I KNOW CHIEF BRYAN'S GOT SOME IDEAS. SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP THAT I, I REALLY WANT AS A CITY, WE SHOULD BE WORKING ON CHANGING THE FALSE NARRATIVES THAT PEOPLE HAVE AND REALLY JUST DOING OUR PART TO EDUCATE PEOPLE. AND SO BOGGING DOWN OUR CALL TAKERS IS JUST NOT DOING IT. AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO, TO HELPING PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY NEED IT. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU SAID THERE WERE 300 CALLS FOR FIREWORKS. APPROXIMATELY. YES. HOW MANY CALLS WERE THERE FOR GUNFIRE? WELL, MOST OF THE CALLS WE GET IS EITHER FIREWORKS OR GUNFIRE. SO IT'S ESPECIALLY ON NEW YEAR'S EVE, IT'S HARD TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. BUT 300 TO 350, A COMBINATION OF THE TWO IS ABOUT WHAT WE GET. AND. HOW MANY HOW MANY INCIDENTS OF GUNFIRE OR ARRESTS WERE MADE COMPARED TO HOW MANY SITE. WELL, HOW MANY CITATIONS? WELL, I GUESS YOU WOULDN'T WRITE A CITATION FOR GUNFIRE DEPENDING ON THE. THEY GO TO JAIL FOR GUN. GO TO JAIL. SO HOW MANY HOW MANY ARRESTS WERE THERE? ARE YOU TWO FOR GUNFIRE? NEW YEAR'S EVE THERE WERE TWO. IT'S ALSO IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU CAN HEAR IT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU AND I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE FIREWORKS, THE PHONE CALLS FOR FIREWORKS. BUT WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE WORKING, YOU SEE IT, YOU CAN SEE, BUT YOU END UP CHASING THE GUNFIRE MORE THAN YOU'RE CHASING THE FIREWORKS. I, I WOULD LOVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP WITH THAT. THANK YOU. YES. COUNCILMEMBER BEARD, JUST SOME COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, IF WE DO HEAR GUNFIRE, WE SHOULD CALL 911, CORRECT. WELL, I GUESS I WOULD SAY UNLESS YOU'RE AN IMMEDIATE THREAT, IF YOU HEAR GUNFIRE OFF IN THE DISTANCE, I WOULD PREFER YOU CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER. BUT IF YOU DO CALL 911, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR CALL, BUT ESPECIALLY ON THOSE EVENINGS AND WE DO INCREASE OUR STAFFING ON THOSE EVENINGS IN THE DISPATCH CENTER. BUT IF YOU'RE HEARING GUNFIRE OFF IN THE DISTANCE SOMEWHERE, I WOULD SAY CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY. NOW, IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN YOUR FRONT DRIVEWAY OR STREET SHOOTING IT, THEN YEAH, CALL 911 IF YOU CAN TELL WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. YES. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CLEAR UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, APPARENTLY YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO REPORT THAT ON NEXT DOOR FACEBOOK INSTEAD OF CALL THE POLICE. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. SORRY. THE OTHER ISSUE IS WITH FIREWORKS. I DO KNOW THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT HOW YOU HANDLE IT. IF YOU WITNESS SOMEBODY ON A STREET CORNER SETTING UP ONE OF THOSE LITTLE POP UPS SELLING FIREWORKS, THAT WOULD BE A TIME TO CALL THE POLICE, CORRECT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. PLEASE DO. OKAY. BECAUSE I DO KNOW OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONFRONTED THOSE SALESPEOPLE TO TELL THEM THAT IT IS ILLEGAL. AND I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY CHASED DOWN WHO'S FIGHT WHO, PEOPLE WHO ARE SHOOTING OFF FIREWORKS. AND IT'S LIKE, THAHAT IS NOT SA. IF THEY ARE SHOOTING OFF FIREWORKS OR SELLING ILLEGAL STUFF, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE. OKAY. JUST TRYING TO MAKE SOME CLARIFICATION HERE SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW ARE DOING THIS MAY HEAR THAT AND KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING. SO, OKAY, I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE DEBRIS FROM FIREWORKS HAS DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY. SO THAT TELLS ME THAT EITHER THEY'RE CLEANING UP REALLY, REALLY WELL, WHICH I DOUBT, OR THEY'RE SHOOTING OFF FEWER FIREWORKS. SO SIX YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS ONE INTERSECTION IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU WENT THE DAY [00:20:06] AFTER NEW YEAR'S DAY OR JULY 5TH, AND IT WAS JUST A HEAP PILE OF TRASH WHERE THEY HAD SHOT OFF FIREWORKS. AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT AS I'M DRIVING STREETS ANYMORE. SO THAT IS SOME ADVANTAGE THERE. SO MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO THE PARKS AND DOING IT INSTEAD OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, BUT I JUST. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHEN WE SHOULD CALL AND WHEN WE SHOULD NOT CALL. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER DUNCAN. CLARIFICATION. I WAS NOT THE ONE IN ANY OF HER STORIES. OKAY? AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD A BULLET LAND ON MY ROOF FIVE MINUTES, FIVE FEET FROM MY HEAD ON 4TH OF JULY, BY ALL MEANS, LIKE IF YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, CALL. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, CHIEF BRIAN, WOULD IT BE ANY EASIER FOR US TO HOLD A HOMEOWNER MORE ACCOUNT OR HOLD A HOMEOWNER ACCOUNTABLE FOR FIREWORKS VERSUS AN INDIVIDUAL SHOOTING IT OFF? AND IF WE KNOW THAT IT'S COMING FROM THIS HOUSE VERSUS THE PERSON THAT'S ACTUALLY DOING IT, IS THERE A SHORT ANSWER IS YES. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, OUR CHALLENGE IS YOU HAVE A GROUP SHOOTING FIREWORKS AND THEY MAY BE SHOOTING FIREWORKS IN A BACKYARD OR FRONT YARD, AND YOU GET THERE AND YOU SAY, WHO'S FIREWORKS ARE THESE? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PROVE THEY'RE EITHER OWNING ON THE FIREWORKS AND POSSESSION OR THEY'RE THE ONES IGNITING THE FIREWORKS. AND OF COURSE, NO ONE TAKES OWNERSHIP. AND WE KNOW THE HOMEOWNER KNOWS WHO IT IS. AND SO I WOULD THINK IT WOULD. I MEAN, YES, IT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP TO, TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT HELD THE HOMEOWNER RESPONSIBLE. PERFECT. SO WE WOULD JUST PUT THAT AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR TO LOOK AT THAT ORDINANCE TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE. OH, GOSH, HERE HE GOES. WHAT DO I DO WRONG NOW? MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IF I MAY BE ALLOWED TO SET SOME EXPECTATIONS BEFORE WE DO THIS, IS THE SHORT ANSWER. THE CHIEF'S CORRECT. THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, WE CAN. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HOLD THE HOMEOWNER IF THE HOMEOWNER LIVES AT THAT LOCATION OR THE PERSON THAT'S ON THE LEASE, BECAUSE WE CAN TIE THAT INTO WHAT WE WORD WE USE IN OUR ORDINANCES, THAT WE WANT TO HOLD SOMEBODY ELSE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANOTHER'S CONDUCT IS SUFFERING OR ALLOWING SOMETHING TO OCCUR ON PROPERTY. SO IF YOU HAVE A RENTAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES IN GARLAND, THAT HOMEOWNER MAY NOT BE PRESENT. SO HE MAY NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OR SHOULD HAVE HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THIS TO OCCURRING, WHICH WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVE. AND SO, YES, IT WILL BE HELPFUL IN TERMS OF WHO'S EVER LIVING AT THAT LOCATION, WHOEVER HAS CONTROL OF THAT LOCATION, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO PROSECUTE THEM AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. PERFECT, PERFECT. THANKS. AND THEN IF FIRE RESPONSE TO A CALL AND IT IS THE SHED THAT'S CHARRING OR GRASS, OR A CHILD THAT GOT INJURED BY A SPARKLER, DO YOU GUYS NOTIFY PD ABOUT THE SITUATION? SO THAT WAY THEY CAN THEN HANDLE IT ON A LEGAL ASPECT? NOT NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PD DOESN'T RESPOND WITH US ON THOSE CALLS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY DO. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO AN INTENTIONAL NOTIFICATION. OKAY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT? YES. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME FIREWORKS LIKE SPARKLERS ARE NOT ILLEGAL, RIGHT? SO THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WE PROBABLY WOULD RESPOND TO. BUT IF YOU HAD AN SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S A PARTY AND PEOPLE ARE LAUNCHING ARTILLERY, THE CALL TAKER IS GOING TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND THE CALL TAKER IS GOING TO SEND BOTH OF US. SO WE SHOULD BOTH BE DISPATCHED TO THAT CALL. AWESOME. I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS ONE. AND NOT LAUGHING AT ME TOO HARD FOR BRINGING IT BACK AGAIN THIS YEAR. YOU BET. WELL, I'LL MAKE ONE MORE POINT. YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE LUNCH EVERY MONTH WITH THE AREA CHIEFS AND ALL THE AREA CHIEFS. W WE HAVEIMILAR CONVERSATIONS. AND YEAH, I'M GOING BACK TO MY COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT FIREWORKS. SO WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY THAT'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION FOR THIS. I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A YEARLY THING BECAUSE I DON'T THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST A MAGIC ANSWER FOR IT REALLY. IT'S JUST WHAT CAN WHAT CAN WE HELP ADVOCATE FOR YOU GUYS TO TRY TO HELP CALM SOME OF THE CALL TAKING, YOU KNO DUTIES THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO DO AND JUST REALLY MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO DO YOUR JOB TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITIES. WE'RE WE'RE NOT OUT TELLING PEOPLE, [00:25:01] OH, YOU HEARD FIREWORKS. CALL 911 RIGHT AWAY, BECAUSE THAT IS DEFINITELY DOING A DISSERVICE TO YOU GUYS AS WE HAVE WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO REALLY JUST WANTED TO HAMMER IN. HOW DO WE ADVOCATE FOR YOU GUYS AND MAKE OUR RESIDENTS AWARE GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO CALM IT DOWN? AND YOU KNOW, THE FIREWORKS ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. THE GUNSHOTS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING, BUT THEY CAN AFFORD ALL THOSE BULLETS. SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL RUN OUT OF MONEY SOON. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, S SO THAT WE WE APPRECIATE IT. AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE CAN TRY TO HELP WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SEEING NONE. THANK YOU BOTH. AND WITH THE LAST WORD. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM NUMBER. NUMBER FIVE EAST [5. East Zone Water Tower Project - Eminent Domain Submission] ZONE WATER TOWER PROJECT EMINENT DOMAIN SUBMISSION. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR. CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS NIELS BROWN. I'M THE REAL ESTATE DIRECTOR. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EAST ZONE WATER TOWER PROJECT THIS EVENING. STARTED. THE EAST ZONE WATER TOWER PROJECT IS A 2024 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. NUMBER 30232. THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT 43, 11, 43, 60 AND 4324 ROSE HILL ROAD. IT'S LOCATED IN DISTRICT THREE. THE PROJECT SITE CONSISTS OF THREE DIFFERENT PARCELS. AGAIN 43, 11, 43, 60, 43, 24. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S LOCATED NEAR BROADWAY BOULEVARD AND ROSE HILL ROAD. THE SITE CONSISTS OF THREE DIFFERENT EASEMENT, I'M SORRY, TWO DIFFERENT EASEMENT INTERESTS AS WELL AS A FEE. SIMPLE ACQUISITION. THE FEE SIMPLE ACQUISITION IS FOR ABOUT THREE ACRES, JUST A LITTLE OVER THREE ACRES. THE WATER LINE EASEMENT CONSISTS OF 0.163 ACRES. AND THEN THERE IS A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT THAT'S NEEDED THAT RUNS ALONGSIDE THE THE WATERLINE EASEMENT FROM ROSE HILL ROAD. THE ACCESS WILL BE FROM THE THE NEXT DOOR PROPERTY, WHICH IS A G L SUBSTATION SITE. THERE'S AN ACCESS DRIVE THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT WILL CREATE A BASICALLY A FORK OFF OF THAT DRIVEWAY, ACCESS INTO THE WATER TOWER SITE. WE'VE STARTED ON THIS PROJECT, I THINK LATE 2024, TALKING TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. WE VISITED THE SITE A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED NEGOTIATING, SEEMED TO BE AMICABLE AND WILLING TO NEGOTIATE A PURCHASE PRICE. ONCE WE PUT TOGETHER THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT. AT THAT POINT, I SUBMITTED IT TO HIS ATTORNEY AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM SINCE. SO AT THIS POINT, WE BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TRYING TO SETTLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME TRY TO OBTAIN THIS PROPERTY THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN ACTION IF NECESSARY. ANY QUESTIONS? THAT WAS PRETTY QUICK, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN. WHAT IS THE YOU MENTIONED THE PROPERTY OWNER. YES. PROPERTY OWNER. WHAT IS WHAT WAS THE OFFER AND WHAT WAS THE REJECTION POINT? SO THE THE PROPERTY OWNER, I BELIEVE, WANTED $7 PER SQUARE FOOT. DCAD VALUES AROUND $3 PER SQUARE FOOT. WE SETTLED ON $6 PER SQUARE FOOT. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE THE INITIAL OFFER IS. CURRENTLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PROPERTY APPRAISED IN ORDER TO SUBMIT A FINAL OFFER IF NECESSARY, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS ASKING ASKING PRICE $3 PER SQUARE FOOT. [00:30:06] HE WAS ASKING SEVEN SEVEN. AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN APPRAISAL DONE. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEY COME BACK WITH WITH WITH $9. WHETHER THEY COME BACK WITH THAT WOULD BE YOUR COUNTEROFFER. RIGHT? EXACTLY. THE WHATEVER THE APPRAISAL VALUE IS, WOULD BE WHAT THE FINAL OFFER WOULD BE. SO IF THE FINAL OFFER, IF THE APPRAISED VALUE COMES BACK AT $4 PER SQUARE FOOT, THEN THAT'S WHAT OUR FINAL OFFER WOULD BE. YES, THE PROPERTY OWNER UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR YOUR DESIRING TO PURCHASE PROPERTY. YES. AND ANY ANY NEGATIVES THERE? WELL, FROM HIS ATTORNEY, YES, BUT BUT NOT FROM THE NOT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, AT LEAST NOT INITIALLY. HAVE YOU ENGAGED? PROBABLY, YES. AND THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE AGENT. ARE THEY SAYING THE SAME THING? I'M SORRY. SAY AGAIN. ARE THEY SAYING THE SAME THING? WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE ATTORNEY. THE. THAT'S I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE IS THAT WE'VE SIMPLY NOT BEEN GIVEN THE ATTORNEY'S CONTACT INFORMATION NOR HEARD FROM THE ATTORNEY. SO HOW HOW WILL YOU GET BACK TO THE ATTORNEY? I'M SORRY. HOW WILL YOU GET BACK TO THE ATTORNEY? SO, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS, HERE'S WHERE THE SITUATION IS. SO SO WE'VE MADE AN OFFER TO THEM ALREADY WITHOUT ACTUALLY INITIATING THE FORMAL EMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS. AND AND NIELS HAS HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNER. AT SOME POINT DURING THESE CONVERSATIONS, NEGOTIATIONS BROKE DOWN AND THE LANDOWNER SAID THAT HE HAS AN ATTORNEY. MR. BROWN HAS SAID, WELL, IF YOU PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, THEN OUR ATTORNEYS CAN TALK TO YOUR ATTORNEYS, BUT HE WON'T PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. AND SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO IS TO SEND A FORMAL INITIAL OFFER LETTER OUT, AND PERHAPS THAT WILL GENERATE A RESPONSE. IF NOT, APPRAISE THE PROPERTY AND SEND A FINAL OFFER LETTER OUT, WHICH WOULD BE BASED ON THAT APPRAISAL. AND I, I EXPECT THAT IF HE HAS RETAINED COUNSEL THAT THAT DURING THAT PROCESS, BEFORE WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO FILE A LAWSUIT, WE WILL RECEIVE A CALL FROM THE ATTORNEY AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO TIE TOGETHER A DEAL ON THIS, IF NOT THE AS MR. BROWN SAID, THIS IS GOING ON FOR SOME TIME AND IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE THEY NEED THE WATER DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE WATER TOWER. SO OUR HOPE IS THAT BY ENGAGING IN A MORE FORMAL PROCESS, WE CAN SPEED THINGS ALONG. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I FULLY SUPPORT. I WOULD SUPPORT YOUR APPROACH THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED. LET ME GET THE APPRAISAL BACK. MAKE IT MAKE OUR OFFER. AND IF NOT, WE INVOKE EMINENT DOMAIN BECAUSE WE CAN'T FOREVER BE SUSPENDED IN MIDAIR WITH THIS PROBLEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON, IS THAT PROPERTY OWNED BY TONY GIBBS? IT IS. YES. OKAY. I LET'S TALK AFTER. I JUST WASN'T SURE BECAUSE THE ADDRESS ISN'T LISTED ON THE THING, BUT YEAH, MAYBE I CAN HELP. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM I IS THIS PROPERTY. IS IT GOING TO INCLUDE THE I GUESS THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON IT? IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE GETTING FEE SIMPLE. NO, THERE'S NO BUILDINGS ON THE FEE. SIMPLE PROPERTY. OKAY. THERE'S NO BUILDINGS TO BE TO BE TECHNICALLY CLEARED. THE PORTION THAT WE'RE TAKING IN FEE, THERE'S NO BUILDINGS ON THAT. WE'RE TAKING THE BACK, ESSENTIALLY THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN WE'RE TAKING IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT LIKE A FLAG WHERE THAT FLAG COMES DOWN. THAT'S WHERE THE ROAD WILL COME OFF THE WATER TOWER SITE AND INTO THE GPL SITE, INTO THE FOR THE REST OF THE EASEMENT THAT'S GOING ALL THE WAY FORWARD TO THE ROAD IS FOR THE MAIN WATER LINE THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE WATER TOWER. OKAY, OKAY, SO THEY WILL. AND IT'S THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER THAT OWNS THE FEE SPLE SECTION. AND THEN ALSO THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF IT THAT WILL REMAIN. SO THEY'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE ROAD. AND IF THEY, IF THEY HAD INTERESTS IN SELLING, JUST, HEY, THIS CAUSES ME TOO MUCH DISTRESS IN MY LIFE AND WE WANT TO SELL EVERYTHING. WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL FOR THE CITY TO PURCHASE THE ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY? I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, AND THIS STANDS FOR ALL CONDEMNATIONS IS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THE LANDOWNER WANTS TO COUNTER WITH, AND WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO, WE'RE ALWAYS [00:35:04] GOING TO INVOLVE YOU AND BRING IT TO YOU TO CONSIDER. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNSEL. I SEE NO OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE. AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS COUNCIL GETTING THIS PROCESS CONTINUED IN MOTION, LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [6. Consideration of Installation of Access Gates at Rick Oden Park] ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX, CONSIDERATION OF INSTALLATION OF ACCESS GATES AT RICK ODIN PARK. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ANDY HESSER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. SOME TIME AGO, MAYOR PRO TEM ASKED US TO LOOK AT SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING AT RICK ODIN AND ENTERTAIN ONE OF THE OPTIONS AS BEING PROVIDING A GATE FOR CLOSURE BY STAFF TO BE DETERMINED TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. AND SO SOME OF THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN I'M SURE EVERYONE'S SOMEWHAT AWARE WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT LOUD MUSIC THERE IN THE END OF THE OF THE PARKING LOT NEAR THE BASEBALL FIELD, LOT OF BURNOUT. A LOT OF LOT OF PEOPLE REVVING UP ENGINES AND DOING A NUMBER ON THE PARKING LOT AND LEAVING A LOT OF BURNT RUBBER EVERYWHERE. THIS IS CLEARLY A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE NEAR HERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT MAP IS AS VISIBLE AS I WOULD HOPE. SO I'M GOING TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT, SO I'LL ORIENT YOU A LITTLE BIT. SO SINCE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF CODE, IT'S ESSENTIALLY TWO TWO SEPARATE FUNCTIONING PARKS THAT NO LONGER HAVE THE ROAD THAT CONNECTS BETWEEN THE TWO, IF YOU RECALL. SO SKATE PARK IS HERE. FULL SIZE BASEBALL FIELD IS HERE. PARKING HERE. FOOD TRUCK AREAS ARE HERE. RESTROOM AND THEN MORE. MORE PUBLIC PARKING HERE TO SERVE THE SKATE PARK. THIS AREA IS HIGHLIGHTED TO CITY STANDARDS WITH THE GPL FIXTURES IN THROUGH HERE. WE DID HAVE A TIME WHERE THEY WERE DOWN AND WERE MALFUNCTIONING. THOSE HAVE BEEN SINCE REPAIRED. WE'VE ALSO TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF TIME DUE TO THE BRINGING THE FIBER OPTIC TO IT. WE NOW HAVE SOME CAMERAS HERE THAT ARE SOMEWHAT HELPFUL DEPENDING ON THE VISIBILITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT BUT RIGHT HERE, I BELIEVE IS WHERE THE MAJOR CHALLENGES ARE REALLY, REALLY HAPPENING. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ASKED TO EXPLORE IS PUTTING A GATE AND CLOSING THIS SIDE OF THE PARK. AND WE WERE AND WE CAN DISCUSS AND I'D LIKE SOME FEEDBACK ON, ON THE HOURS. SO RIGHT HERE, JUST FROM A FUNCTIONALITY STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE WE WOULD PUT THE GATE HERE KIND OF AT THE THROAT OF THE PARKING LOT, LEAVING PLENTY OF ROOM FOR AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE OR SERVICE VEHICLE TO PULL IN RIGHT HERE TO UNLOCK THE GATE. THOSE ARE TYPICALLY DONE WITH KNOX BOXES, WHICH THE POLICE AND THE FIRE HAVE A UNIVERSAL KEY FOR. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE, A GATE DOESN'T MAKE IT ACCESS. IT'S NOT AIRTIGHT, IT'S NOT WATERTIGHT. SO WE PUT A COUPLE OF BOLLARDS HERE TO PREVENT ANY DRIVING IN ON THE PAVEMENT HERE, BOLLARD OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE, AND THEN THE REST OF THE PARK IS CONSTRAINED FOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC MOST OF THE WAY THROUGH WITH THESE REALLY LARGE LOOTERS BLOCK STONES. WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO HERE, THERE'S NO MORE STONES IN THIS AREA. SO SOME PRACTICAL MATTERS THERE THAT WE'LL NEED TO THINK THROUGH. SO ONE OF THE IDEAS WOULD BE AND WE'VE GOT SOMETHING SIMILAR ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO. ON THE TENNIS CENTER SIDE YOU CAN SEE THE GATE LOCATION HERE. REALLY THE BEHAVIOR I THINK IS TWO DISTINCT TYPES OF SITUATIONS. THE THE TENNIS COURTS ARE USED UP UNTIL ABOUT 10 P.M. RIGHT NOW WITH THE AN OPERATOR THAT PROGRAMS TENNIS FOR US SOON TO BE PICKLEBALL. ONCE TUCKER IS OPEN. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS, IS MAYBE WE CONSIDER CLOSING THE SKATE PARK SIDE AT. WE LOOKED AT BOTH 9 P.M. AND 10 P.M. SO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH 9 P.M. IS THAT WE HAVE BASEBALL FIELD RENTALS UNTIL 10 P.M. AND THEN IF YOU GO WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE TENNIS CENTER SIDE, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A WITH AN OPERATOR THAT IS ABLE TO OPERATE TILL 10 P.M. AND I THINK EVEN UP TO 11 P.M. ON TOURNAMENT TYPE EVENTS. AND SO THE IDEA WOULD BE IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE MARSHALS COME AND CLOSE THIS GATE AT THE TIME OF OUR CHOOSING AND SEE IF THIS HELPS. AND THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO CLEAR THE SKATERS IN THERE. THERE MIGHT EVEN BE PEOPLE PLAYING BASEBALL ON THE FIELDS IN THEIR RENTAL. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO COME IN AND CLEAR THOSE AFTER 10 P.M. WHICH MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO KIND OF PACK UP AND HEAD OUT. AND THEN ONCE EVERYBODY'S CLEARED, THEN THEY WOULD CLOSE THE GATES. THE [00:40:01] CHALLENGE WITH 9 P.M. IS, IS AGAIN, THE USE OF THOSE. WE'VE KIND OF ALREADY COMMITTED TO THOSE RENTALS AT 10 P.M. AND THAT'S WHEN THE ORDINANCE. NOW, YOU MIGHT RECALL, WE MOVED FROM MIDNIGHT TO 10 P.M. AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FOR SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME DIRECTION ON THIS ISSUE SHOULD THERE LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CLOSE THE SKATE PARK SIDE AND IT WORKS FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEN THEY DISPERSE AND GO TO THE OTHER SIDE. THEN WE COULD CONTEMPLATE LOCKING THAT SIDE. ALSO, IT WON'T BE LONG. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATES, BUT AS WE ARE CONVERTING JACK COLEMAN FROM TENNIS TO PICKLEBALL, THERE'LL BE A TIME THERE THAT WE CAN CLOSE THAT WITH A CONSTRUCTION FENCE AND STILL LET PEOPLE USE THE PLAYGROUND IN THE OTHER AREAS OF THE PARK AS THEY SEE FIT. SO WITH THAT KIND OF THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL OF THE, OF THE ASK AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH THAT ASK. BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GET TONIGHT, WE'RE PREPARED TO EXECUTE WHAT YOU SEE FIT. SO ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON. THE NOISE ORDINANCE FOR GARLAND KICKS IN AT 10 P.M. IS THAT CORRECT? WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCES AROUND THE CLOCK, IS IT NOT YET. 60DB, I BELIEVE 24 SEVEN, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. YEAH. GENERALLY IT'S AROUND THE CLOCK, BUT THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION AND TIMES FOR CONSTRUCTION THAT ARE, I DON'T KNOW, THE TIMES OFF. WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS FOR THAT, MAYBE 7 TO 7, I THINK. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING 7 TO 8 P.M. FOR 8 P.M. SO AND THE REASON WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT QUALIFIES FOR THE NOISE ORDINANCE. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ASSUME THAT LOUD CARS AND BURN OFFS AND SUCH ARE GOING TO FALL UNDER A NOISE ORDINANCE TIME FRAME. SO WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE EVERYONE. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING IF, IF THE AVERAGE PERSON THINKS THAT IT WOULD FALL UNDER OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH KICKS IN AT 10 P.M. WHATEVER, THAT WOULD KIND OF BE LIKE A SAFE, IN MY OPINION. IT WOULD BE KIND OF A SAFE. GO AHEAD. BRIAN. OKAY. FINDING ALREADY, BUT ALSO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE IS WORTH MENTIONING IS THAT FOOD COURT, THE FOOD TRUCK AREA IS COMPLETELY UNDERUTILIZED. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE IT SET UP FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE IT. OKAY. IT DOESN'T GET PROMOTED. SO ONE WAY, ONE WAY TO CONTROL PEOPLE'S POOR BEHAVIOR IS TO ADD PEOPLE RIGHT TO MONITOR THAT BEHAVIOR. OR ALLIGATORS IS ANOTHER WAY, WHICH I THINK IS FROWNED UPON. SO THAT'S AN INSIDE JOKE. SORRY. SO IF, IF WE HAD PEOPLE OUT UTILIZING AT FOOD TRUCK AREA ON A REGULAR BASIS, IT WOULD HELP SOME OF THAT WILD BEHAVIOR OUT THERE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE IN THE HOURS PRIOR TO A GATE CLOSING. AND THEN THE NEXT PORTION IS GOING TO BE PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT DRIVING OVER GRASS. SO IF WE PUT A GATE OVER THE CEMENT, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS POP A CURB AND DRIVE RIGHT ON THROUGH. I WATCH THEM DO IT DURING THE SNOWSTORM. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THESE ROCKS. THEY'RE GOING TO WHITE TRUCK WITH THE BIG RIMS AND LIGHTS UNDER IT. THEY'RE BLUE LIGHTS. JUST SO YOU KNOW. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE. HE HE WILL POP THE LITTLE CURB STOPPER THINGS IN THE PARKING LOT TO DRIVE INTO THE GRASS. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF. WHERE THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY. AND THEY WILL. THEY WILL FIND A WAY. SO IF WE CAN MOVE ALL OF THOSE BIG ROCKS ALONG THE SIDEWALK OF MILLER SO THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL DRIVING IN THE GRASS. THEY JUST DON'T, THEY DON'T ACCESS THE GRASS FROM WHERE THOSE BIG ROCKS ARE. SO WE DID LOOK AT THAT. ABSOLUTELY. THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MIND WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, IS THAT IT DOES NOT PROVIDE AN AIRTIGHT ENVIRONMENT TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT. AND SO IT WOULD TAKE QUITE A BIT OF ADDITIONAL BLOCKS TO TO CLOSE THAT OFF COMPLETELY. I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT $1,800 A PIECE AND WE WOULD NEED NEARLY 30 OF THEM. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY IT WOULD TAKE FEWER TO PUT HERE WHERE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR ON THIS SIDE. I ACTUALLY WALKED IT AND LOOKED AT THIS THIS AREA OVER HERE. I WAS HOPING WE COULD. IT'S A MUCH FURTHER DISTANCE. THERE ARE TREES ALONG HERE, BUT IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT TWO BLOCKS IN [00:45:02] BETWEEN EACH TREE, IF NOT THREE, SO IT CAN BE DONE. IT JUST BECOMES A FUNCTION OF DOLLARS. I WOULD, I WOULD HONESTLY, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THESE THAT LINE THIS DRIVEWAY. I WOULD RATHER SEE THESE MOVED ALONG THE SIDEWALK AND THE TREE LINE BECAUSE THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DRIVE IN THE GRASS AND I WILL SAY THEY'RE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S JUST WILD MUDDING AND PAYCHECKS HAPPENING IN THAT GRASSY AREA. IT'S VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING IT. BUT IF WE'RE PUTTING A GATE OUT THAT'S LIMITING THEIR PLAYGROUND SOUTH OF THAT, I WOULD I WOULD MUCH RATHER WE FOCUS ON KEEPING THEM OUT OF THAT AREA COMPLETELY VERSUS KEEPING THEM OUT OF THE GRASS. SO IF THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY TO MOVE THOSE, THOSE LARGE BOULDER ROCKS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO JUMP THE CURB FROM MILLER AND COME THROUGH, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE FAR MORE BENEFICIAL FOR US THAN. THAN EVEN ADDING MORE ALONG THAT THAT BARE SPOT. THAT IS TOTALLY JUST MY OPINION. SO THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM LOOKED. YES. SO. WHERE YOU HAVE THE BLUE MARKINGS FOR THE BOLLARDS AT THE ENTRANCE WHERE THAT LURK THERE. YES, YES. IS THAT OR IS THAT ENOUGH. NO IT'S NOT. AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE COMPLETELY BLOCKING IT OFF EITHER BY RELOCATING WHAT'S THERE, WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA. FULL DISCLOSURE, THE PARK PERSON IN ME THAT PAINS ME ESTHETICALLY, BUT IT IS A FUNCTION OF MONEY. THOSE BLOCKS ARE NOT NOT CHEAP. AND SO WE COULD, I THINK, AGAIN, WE WERE TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF COST BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE BOLLARDS AND THE ROCKS OF MAYBE TRYING THE LEAST INVASIVE OPTION FIRST AND SEE IF IT SEE IF IT'LL DETER, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN OPERATIONS TO OPERATE ANYTHING AND MAKE THIS OPERABLE IN ANY REGARD. SO THE IDEA WAS TO DETER WHAT'S THE OBVIOUS? WHEREAS IF IT TAKES A LITTLE FURTHER WORK TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY TO GET IN, IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE, THEY'RE GOING TO FIND A WAY. NO MATTER AIR TIGHT, WE THINK WE CAN MAKE IT SO. SO I WAS HOPING FOR MAYBE KIND OF AN INCREMENTAL STEP TO SEE IF WE COULD CURB SOME OF THAT BEHAVIOR WHERE IT BECAME TOO MUCH EFFORT FOR THEM. IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, WE COULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER MOVING THOSE BLOCKS ALL THE WAY DOWN AND PUT INTERSPERSE THEM BETWEEN THE TREES AS LONG AS THEY'RE OUT OF THE WAY, RIGHT OF WAY AND DON'T CREATE A VEHICULAR SAFETY ISSUE. WE COULD CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN THAT. I WOULD, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO MOVING THE BLOCKS. I, I THINK THEY'RE GORGEOUS AND I LOVE WHERE THEY ARE NOW, BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE, FUNCTION MIGHT SERVE US BETTER. WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE GOES ON TO THE PARK PROPERTY WHILE THE GATES ARE CLOSED? SO IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO PUT GATES AT THE REC CENTER. THERE WOULD BE AN AFTER HOURS PHONE NUMBER THAT GOES TO THE DUTY PERSON AFTER HOURS, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, WATER DISPATCH. AND THEN THEY WOULD DISPATCH EITHER A PERSON OR DEPENDING ON THE EXACT SITUATION, IT MIGHT BE POLICE. BUT IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE STUCK IN THERE AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T MEAN STUCK, I MEAN INTENTIONALLY, THEY'RE AFTER THE GATES CLOSED, IT'D BE AN ORDINANCE VIOLATION, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE TRESPASSING, WOULDN'T IT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THAT. YES IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE TRESPASSING. RIGHT. SO IT WOULD BE TRESPASSING ON CITY PROPERTY. AND IF THEY'RE ALSO LET ME LET ME JUST LET ME SAY THIS ONE THING. IT. THE GATE DOESN'T MAKE IT TRESPASSING TIME AUTOMATICALLY OR THE TIME DOESN'T MAKE IT, IT MAKES IT A VIOLATION OF THE CITY ORDINANCE. TRESPASSING WOULD OCCUR IF THERE WAS A GATE AND A FENCE, OR A BARRIER THAT CLEARLY MARKED THE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PARK. IN THIS CASE, WE WON'T HAVE SUCH A BOUNDARY. SO A PEDESTRIAN CAN ALWAYS WALK BETWEEN THE ROCKS. THERE'S NOT A FENCE IN PLACE. IF THERE WAS A FENCE, WE COULD DO TRESPASSING. BUT WITHOUT A FENCE WE COULDN'T DO TRESPASS. SO IT'D BE A CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATION. OKAY. IT WAS A VERY LONG WAY OF GETTING THERE, BUT I GOT THERE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WELL, LET'S SAY THEY'RE COMMITTING A CRIME, LIKE DAMAGING PUBLIC PROPERTY BY DRIVING ON THE GRASS. IS THAT NOT A CRIME? YEAH, YOU COULD CERTAINLY YOU COULD DO A CRIMINAL MISCHIEF CHARGE ON THAT IF THEY DESTROYED CITY PROPERTY AND IF THEY'RE VIOLATING THE NOISE ORDINANCE WHILE DOING THAT, I MEAN, THEY'RE IT'S NOT. THEM GETTING ON TO THE PROPERTY AFTER THE GATE IS CLOSED IS, I THINK, A TRIBUTE TO OTHER THINGS THAT THEY MAY DO DURING THAT TIME. [00:50:08] SO I THINK HAVING A GATE THERE IS YES, IT IS PASSABLE IN IN MANY WAYS, BUT ALSO THEY'RE PROBABLY DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING ASIDE FROM ENTERING THE PROPERTY. AGAINST OUR ORDINANCE. SO I ASIDE FROM BEING A PHYSICAL BARRIER, IT'S ALSO A SYMBOL AS WELL. LIKE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE IN A VEHICLE. WE DEFINITELY WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WALK THERE. SO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING ANYTHING TO TO MAKE THE CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR POLICE, MUCH LESS. WE DO GET A LOT OF CALLS AT THIS LOCATION ALMOST DAILY. SO IT IS A PROBLEM. YOU ASKED ABOUT 9 P.M. OR 10 P.M. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE BRIARWOOD DRIVE SIDE, WHAT TIME FOR THAT AS WELL? SO I FEEL LIKE 10:00 IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME, SINCE THAT'S WHEN WE'RE COMMITTED TO OFFERING PROGRAMS. HOW MANY RESERVATIONS DO YOU HAVE AT THAT BASEBALL FIELD? I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THEY TEND TO BE MULTIPLE DAY CONTRACTS, NOT JUST ONE AT A TIME. THEY TEND TO BE WITH LEAGUES OR ASSOCIATIONS. SO I CAN I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT. SURE, IT COULD BE THREE NIGHTS A WEEK, FIVE NIGHTS A WEEK. I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT GOING ON AT THAT BASEBALL FIELD. SO CHALLENGING TO PROGRAM FOR SURE, RIGHT? IF YOU WOULD GET THAT INFORMATION TO ME, BECAUSE I THINK THAT DEPENDING ON HOW MANY RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT THE BASEBALL FIELD, I WOULD BE FINE WITH NINE. BUT SINCE THE SKATE PARK CLOSES AT TEN OFFICIALLY RIGHT NOW, I THINK TEN IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME. ON THE OTHER SIDE, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THE THE COMPANY THAT THE THIRD PARTY THAT WILL BE OPERATING THE JACK COLEMAN CENTER, COULD THEY POSSIBLY CLOSE THAT GATE WHEN THEY LEAVE FOR THE EVENING? SO HAVING I THINK IT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC AND BE RISKY. SO I CAN SAY THAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE HAVING PARK STAFF GO DO IT. UNDERSTOOD. MUCH RATHER HAVE A UNIFORMED OFFICER DO IT AND PD IS NOT IN A POSITION TO. BUT MARSHALS TEND TO BE MORE AVAILABLE BECAUSE AGAIN, THE PD IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBJECT TO THEIR CALL VOLUME, WHICH MEANS IT FALLS WHERE IT FALLS IN THEIR CALLS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WHETHER IT'S THEM, THE CHALLENGE IS NOT SO MUCH CLOSING THE GATE, IT'S GETTING THE PEOPLE TO LEAVE. AND SO YOU'VE GOT SOME PERSON ASKING YOU TO LEAVE THAT SAYS TENNIS INSTRUCTOR ON IT. NOT A TON OF AUTHORITY THAT WILL CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT. AND SO THAT THAT TO ME, CONCERNS ME WITH A CERTAIN DEGREE OF RISK OF, YOU KNOW, AN ARGUMENT OR AN ALTERCATION BECAUSE IT HAPPENS WITH OUR FOLKS THAT ARE IN CITY UNIFORM. SO I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE A TOUGH ASK FOR THEM. MR. BETTS, DOES THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MANAGE THESE GATES? THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD DO IT AT THE END OF THEIR PARKING. AND THEN IF THEY DO IT RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED THROUGH 9:00. BUT IF THIS IS A PRIORITY, WE WOULD PROBABLY RESCHEDULE THEM TO DO PARKING TILL 10:00. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK BETTER ANYWAYS, BUT. WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PREFERENCE FOR THE BRIARWOOD GATE SIDE AND HOW TO MANAGE THAT? I THINK WE WOULD BOTH AT 10:00. OKAY. WOULD BE GIVEN, GIVEN WHAT THE PARK HOURS CURRENTLY ARE AND THE USAGE THAT WE KNOW THAT MAY OCCUR AT 10:00 WOULD BE THE EASIEST TIME FOR US TO ENFORCE. OKAY, I CONCUR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER BEARD. I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS DIFFERENT DISTRICT, BUT ACROSS THE STREET AND ABOUT 10:00 EVERY NIGHT YOU HEAR THE BURNOUTS. AND IT'S A LOT OF TIMES IT'S THE GUYS LEAVING THE SKATE PARK. WHEN THE SKATE PARK CLOSES. LET'S SPEND ANOTHER 30 45 MINUTES AND BURN OUT IN THE PARKING LOT. I THINK THE PRICE TO BLOCK OFF THAT WHOLE STRETCH DOWN MILLER FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE SKATE PARK TO THE CREEK, EITHER BY MOVING THOSE ROCKS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE OR BUYING NEW ROCKS, I THINK THAT PRICE WOULD MORE THAN MAKE UP FOR ITSELF IN PREVENTING THE DAMAGE IT'S CAUSING TO THE PARKING LOT AND TO THE GRASS. AND 10:00 YES, THE SKATE PARK CLOSES AT TEN. THOSE GATES NEED TO LOCK AT TEN AND THERE NEEDS TO BE NO ACCESS. SO YOU KNOW, [00:55:03] OKAY, PEDESTRIANS, IF IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT AND THEY WANT TO WALK IT, OKAY. BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T KEEP THEM OUT, BUT PUT A LOCKING GATE AND SOME SORT OF GREAT BIG THING THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO DRIVE A PICKUP OVER CLOSE ENOUGH TOGETHER ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT STRETCH, JUST BECAUSE I DO HEAR THAT. AND IT LASTS USUALLY BETWEEN 10 AND 11, USUALLY OVER ABOUT 11. BUT AND I'M GUESSING THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT'S THE GUYS LEAVING THE SKATE PARK AND LET'S BURN OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AS FAR AS THE OTHER ENTRANCE, THE GATES MAY BE ALL THAT'S NEEDED THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERY EASY TO ACCESS THE GRASS ON THAT SIDE. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU GOT SOME? I NEED TO GO PUT EYES ON IT. THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE ONE OR MAYBE ONE BOULDER ON EACH SIDE. YOU'VE GOT A BRIDGE ABUTMENT AND A DROP OFF ON ONE SIDE, AND YOU'VE GOT A DROP OFF IN A IN A DETENTION, A LARGE DRAINAGE. IF YOU MISS, IF YOU MISS THAT, THAT TURN IN, THERE'S YOU GOT TO GO WAY DOWN AND TURN AROUND, SORRY, WAY DOWN AND TURN AROUND AND COME BACK. SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A LOT MORE DIFFICULT. AND AGAIN, 10 P.M. THERE, UNLESS WE HAVE A SCHEDULED TOURNAMENT OR SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE LATER. AND THEN THAT CAN BE MADE ARRANGEMENTS IN WAY IN ADVANCE FOR, FOR THAT ENTRANCE. AND JUST PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, DON'T PARK OVER THERE. IF YOU'RE COMING TO AN EVENT OVER HERE, THAT'S GOING TO BE POSSIBLY 930, TEN, 1030 BEFORE IT LETS OUT. AND THAT RAISES A GREAT POINT, IF I COULD ADD THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THERE BE, FOR EXAMPLE, A LARGE TENNIS OR PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT, THAT IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT IT COULD GO PAST 10 P.M. WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON? WE COULD ABSOLUTELY COORDINATE WITH STAFF AND THE MARSHALS TO. IT'S A. THOSE ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. IF THEY HAPPEN FOUR TIMES A YEAR, THAT'S GREAT, AND WE CAN PLAN FOR THAT AND WORK AROUND THAT. BUT YEAH, LIKE I SAID, MILLER, I HEAR IT ALMOST EVERY NIGHT, BUT ESPECIALLY ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT, IT'S SPRING BREAK RIGHT NOW. IT'S HAPPENING EVERY NIGHT DURING SPRING BREAK. ONCE IT'S LIGHT TILL LATER, IT'S GONE. IT'S SO BLOCKING THAT OFF TO WHERE THERE'S NO ACCESS AFTER 10 P.M. IT'S NOT GOING TO PREVENT IT COMPLETELY BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL GOING TO DO IT SOME DURING THE DAY. BUT IF THERE'S A BUNCH OF CARS IN THERE, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO DO. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT INITIAL COST OF BLOCKING THAT OFF WILL EVENTUALLY PAY FOR ITSELF ACTUALLY PROBABLY PRETTY QUICKLY IN THE DAMAGE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO REPAIR, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE DAMAGE. BUT ON THE GRASS AND THE PARKING LOT FROM DONUTS AND BURNOUTS AND ALL OF THAT, IT'S NOT GOING TO PREVENT THEM FROM, YOU KNOW, RACING DOWN MILLER GARLAND ROAD, BUT IT'S GOING TO PREVENT THEM FROM RACING THROUGH THE PARK. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MORE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. INITIALLY, ANDY, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE AS IT RELATED TO SUGGESTIONS, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE REALLY GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE GATE PER SE. BUT AS I'VE LISTENED TO THE CONVERSATION, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES HERE, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS STILL THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AND I RECOGNIZE TONIGHT IS OUR WORK SESSION, AND WE DO WANT TO COLLABORATE, CORROBORATE AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THERE. BUT I'M THINKING AT THIS POINT THAT PROBABLY BE MORE IN ALL OF OUR BEST INTERESTS, THAT WE TAKE THIS BACK AT THIS POINT TO COMMITTEE OR WHEREVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS AND ALLOW US TO MAYBE GIVE YOU THE INPUT FROM THERE. BECAUSE BEHIND EVERY ANSWER THAT WE GET, A SUGGESTION WE GET AT THIS POINT, THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE. YOUR THOUGHTS? YEAH. SO I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION. SO I THINK I THINK TONIGHT ACTUALLY I'VE GOT ENOUGH GUIDANCE TO MOVE FORWARD. I THINK THE MISSING PIECE THAT CONCERNED ME THE MOST WAS WHAT TO DO WITH THE MILLER SIDE, BECAUSE THAT'S QUITE A DISTANCE TO GO IN. IN AN IDEAL SITUATION, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO 10:00 BOTH SIDES. I'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY GOT THE BOLLARDS IN THE GATES PROCURED AS WE FOUND A FAIRLY COST EFFECTIVE WAY. I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST OF THE GATES, SO I'VE GOT THAT IN MOTION. WHAT I DON'T HAVE IN MOTION IS, IS THE THE THE BOULDERS ALONG MILLER, WHICH IS THE CORRECT SOLUTION. IT JUST COMES DOWN TO WHAT, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO COST? BECAUSE IF WE LEFT THE, THE BOULDERS DOWN ALONG THE SIDE, YOU CAN TELL THAT'S MEANT TO KEEP PEOPLE CONTAINED ON THE ROADWAY FROM GETTING INTO FLOWERBEDS OUT INTO THE GRASS, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TOO, IF WE DON'T CONTAIN IT, THAT THE COMPLETE SOLUTION NOW IS REALLY JUST SOLVING FOR THE MILLER SIDE. AND IF AND IF I'M, IF I CAN GO GET SOME PRICING FOR THAT, WE CAN WORK IT OUT INTERNALLY THAT I BELIEVE WOULD [01:00:01] BE A COMPLETE SOLUTION, THAT I'D BE 100% COMFORTABLE WITH. OKAY, WELL, I WOULD. IT'S A, IT'S A BUNCH OF THEM. I'VE WALKED IT AND PASSED IT OFF. I JUST DIDN'T BRING MY NOTES. BUT SO LET ME BE CLEAR, I NOTHING HURTS A PERSON'S HEART MORE THAN SEEING STUFF GET DAMAGED AND ABUSED AND, AND SEEING THOSE THINGS. AND SO I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO FIND A SOLUTION. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN UNTIL WE TRY. AND I, I'D BE WILLING TO TRY IT AND TAKE THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD TONIGHT AND PUT A PLAN TOGETHER, IMPLEMENT IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SUMMER IS ABOUT TO BE HERE. LET'S LET'S DO IT. DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO US AGAIN BASED ON WHAT HAS BEEN SAID? OR DO YOU THINK THAT YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION AT THIS POINT TO GO FORWARD? I PERSONALLY HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION. LET'S SAY FOR LET'S SAY IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE TO RUN BOULDERS ALONG. MILLER. I'LL DO THE MATH ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO MOVE THEM UP FROM THIS CURRENT LOCATION. I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT SUGGESTION THAT I HAD NOT CONSIDERED. SO THANK YOU. SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SOLUTION THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT IN EITHER CASE AND TRY TO REDUCE THE THE DAMAGE. AND I FEEL, YOU KNOW, THESE HOMES NEXT DOOR, THEY THROW THE CAR DOORS OPEN AND CRANK MUSIC, YOU KNOW, UNTIL, UNTIL THEY CAN'T ANYMORE. AND THEN THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE BURNOUTS. AND SO BOTH ARE A NUISANCE. BOTH ARE A VIOLATION. I'D CERTAINLY BE RECEPTIVE AND AGREEABLE TO THE SOLUTIONS THAT YOU COME BACK WITH. AND I THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT REALLY HAS GIVEN YOU SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO GO FORWARD. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, MIGHT I. I'M ALL FOR PUTTING THE GATES IN AND THE BOLLARDS RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE IT HELPS PUT A EXCLAMATION MARK ON THE FACT THAT THE PARK IS CLOSED. SO THERE'S NO DOUBT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE. AND IT ADDS FURTHER EVIDENCE FOR WHENEVER WE SHOULD BE TICKETING AND PROSECUTING PEOPLE FOR THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR. AS FOR THE THE THE STONE BLOCKS, I WAS LOOKING INTO CUT LIMESTONE BLOCKS FOR ANOTHER ORGANIZATION. I THINK IT WAS BAMSEY SAND AND STONE THAT'S HERE IN GARLAND, NOT FAR FROM HERE. THEY QUOTED IT WAS $450 FOR LIMESTONE BLOCK, BUT IT'S $400 TO TRANSPORT ONE OR TO TRANSPORT SIX. IT DIDN'T MATTER BECAUSE THIS. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUYING 30 OF THEM. THEY'D PROBABLY BE VERY AMENABLE TO. AND YOU RAISE A GREAT POINT. SO ARCHITECTURALLY, LOOTERS BLOCK IS THE DESIGN PALETTE THAT'S IN THE PARK. LOOTERS IS A SPECIFIC A SPECIFIC QUARRY IN LOOTERS, TEXAS. SO THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD PROBABLY WORK ON THAT PRICE. AND IT LIMESTONE IS DIFFERENT THAN LOOTERS. IT'S A LITTLE BRIGHTER. WHITE IF THEY'RE NOT SIDE BY SIDE. IS ANYBODY GOING TO NOTICE? I DON'T THINK SO. SO I THINK WE COULD LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR POINT, SOME COST EFFECTIVE. DOES THE PARK PERSON COMING OUT. I MEAN THIS IS A DESIGN PALETTE TO WORK WITH HERE. OH, AND YOU SAID LOOTERS BLOCK. I WAS THINKING THAT IT WAS FOR IT WAS ACTUALLY FOR LIKE A ANTI CRIMINAL THING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S GERMAN L E U D E R. LOOTERS. LOOTERS TEXAS. WOW. SO ANOTHER GREAT SUGGESTION I THINK WILL HELP KEEP THE COST DOWN FOR SURE. OKAY. ALSO HIGH DEFINITION CAMERAS AT THE ENTRANCE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BE THE CHOKE POINTS WHERE PEOPLE, IF WE'RE FUNNELING PEOPLE TO AN AREA WHERE THEY WHERE WE CAN'T COMPLETELY KEEP THEM OUT OF LIKE MOTORCYCLES THAT MIGHT SNEAK IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HAVING A NICE HIGH DEFINITION PICTURE OF EXACTLY WHO IT IS WHEN THEY COME AND GO, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE HANDCUFFS ON THEM. SO WE DO HAVE CAMERAS OUT THERE. THEY'VE RECENTLY BEEN INSTALLED. THERE'S TWO, TWO SPOTS OUT THERE. SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ANECDOTAL INFORMATION ON HOW THAT'S WORKING SO FAR. THE FLOCK SYSTEM WAS WAS NOT REALLY AN OPTION. SO AGAIN, A LOT OF THESE ARE CONSTRAINED BY COST CHALLENGE WITH THE FLOCK SYSTEM IS THAT'S AN ANNUAL LEASE RATHER THAN THAN A CIP TYPE PURCHASE. SO THAT CAME INTO INTO WEIGHING OUR DECISIONS ON WHAT WE PUT OUT THERE OR NOT. BUT WE DO HAVE CAMERAS ARE JUST CLOSER TO THE SKATE PARK, NOT THE GATE ITSELF. RIGHT. AWESOME. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. SO ANDY, THE THE BLUE DOTS ON YOUR MAP ARE THOSE EXISTING BOLLARDS. THOSE ARE THERE ARE BOLLARDS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN OTHER LOCATIONS TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM COMING IN WITH ATVS OR OTHER VEHICLES INTO OTHER AREAS. SO THIS WOULD BE YOU WOULD COMPLEMENT THIS WITH BOULDERS ON THE SIDES TO CHOKE IT DOWN TO WHERE YOU CAN'T HOP. BUT THERE ARE OTHER BOULDERS THROUGHOUT THE. WE HAD TO SWITCH. WE'RE NOT USING THE SAME STANDARD THAT'S OUT THERE. THE COST HAS GONE UP QUITE A BIT ON THOSE DUE TO TARIFFS, BUT WE FOUND A MADE IN THE USA VERSION. OKAY, I DIDN'T SAY PROPOSED SO I WASN'T SURE IF THOSE WERE THERE ALREADY SIR. AND THEN THE GATE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE MANUALLY PULLED SHUT. THERE'S NOT A YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY MAKE AUTOMATED GATES,OU PUSH THE BUTTON, IT [01:05:01] CLOSES THE THING. BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY PRACTICAL IN THIS CASE. WOULD YOU SAY, BECAUSE WE NEED TO CLEAR THE PARK, RIGHT. WE CAN'T JUST PUSH THE BUTTON FROM CITY HALL, CLOSE THE GATES AND SAY, SORRY, YOU DIDN'T GET OUT IN TIME. YOU'RE IN FOR THE NIGHT, RIGHT? SO, SO THAT'S SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'VE GOT A MANUAL MANUAL CLOSE TO THE GATE. IS THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON SO LOOKING ONLINE, RICK ODIN PARK IS THE ONLY PARK IN OUR SYSTEM THAT SHOWS A CLOSED TIME AT 11:59 P.M. EVERYWHERE ELSE CLOSES AT TEN TO BE UPDATED TO THE NEW ORDINANCE. YES, PLEASE. MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE ALSO ADDING ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE HERE, INCLUDING THAT. SO YES, THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. AND AND THAT'S ON THE PLAYGROUND SIDE. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE PLAYGROUND ON OUR WEBSITE SHOWS THAT IT'S OPEN UNTIL A MINUTE BEFORE MIDNIGHT. NOT THAT I THINK THAT ANYONE ACTUALLY READS SIGNS, BUT IT HELPS THE POLICE WHEN THEY'RE. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. AND SO I DO WANT COUNCIL JUST TO KIND OF REMEMBER THAT WE ARE UNDER VERY, VERY TIGHT FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS. AND SO WHILE BUYING ALL NEW BIG, BEAUTIFUL ROCKS SOUNDS FANTASTIC FINANCIALLY, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT $60,000 TO BUY NEW ROCKS TO PUT ALONG MILLER, THAT ACTUALLY EQUATES TO AT LEAST ONE FULL TIME POSITION OF SOMEONE IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. SO I DO WANT US TO JUST BE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT. BUT THERE THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN HANDLE THIS WHERE WE'RE NOT PUTTING OURSELVES IN A FURTHER FINANCIAL CONSTRAINT, BUT STILL TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF BECAUSE THE, THE PEOPLE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING BACK, THEY'RE OUT AT THE FOOD COURT OR THE FOOD TRUCK AREA ARE NOT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SKATING. I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT. I ENCOURAGE ANY OF YOU THAT QUESTION THAT TO GO AND JUST SIT AT AT THIS AT THE SKATE PARK FOR 30 MINUTES AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHO AND WHAT IS COMING OUT OF THERE AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND. I. YEAH, SO I THINK THERE ARE TWO DISTINCT GROUPS. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. CAMERAS ARE FANTASTIC. HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE HAD OUR ALASKA FREEZE, THAT I SAT AND WATCHED THE WHITE TRUCK THAT IS LIFTED WITH THE BLUE LIGHTS UNDER THE THE TIRES WITH THE. I WATCHED HIMOLL RIGHT ON OVER THE. YES. THEY DON'T STOP ANYTHING. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE STOPPED, THEY WILL. THEY STOP MY LITTLE CAR. BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. HE ROLLED RIGHT OVER THEM, DID SOME DONUTS. BY THE TIME THAT CALL TAKERS WERE ABLE TO ANSWER THE PHONE WHEN I CALLED IT IN, HE WAS ALREADY LEAVING. SO HE IS THERE ON A NIGHTLY BASIS. HE IS THE SAME GUY THAT DRIVES THROUGH DOWNTOWN WITH HIS EXTERIOR SPEAKERS BLASTING, SO HE'S A NUISANCE AND HE DOES NOT CARE. PERIOD. SO THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A HUGE PROBLEM. BUT HE HAS FRIENDS AND THEY, THEY LIKE TO GO PLAY IN THE PLAYGROUND TOGETHER. AND THAT'S WHO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUT OF THERE. THAT'S WHO WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST BECAUSE HE LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BECAUSE I WILL FOLLOW PEOPLE, I DON'T CARE. BUT BY THE TIME YOU CALL 911, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT DOING DONUTS ANYMORE. THEY'RE NOT COMPLETELY DUMB. THEY GO, THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND THEN THEY LEAVE. AND THEN THEY WILL COME BACK LATER WHEN THEY KNOW THAT PD HAS ALREADY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BY AND LEAVE AGAIN. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE MINDFUL OF. AS SOMEONE THAT SITS THERE AND WATCHES, WATCHES, THE SHENANIGANS THAT HAPPEN OUT THERE, IT'S IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN SURFACE LEVEL. AND SO I THINK I HAVE FAITH THAT WE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND DO SO COST EFFECTIVELY. AND I LOVE YOUR I LOVE YOUR HEART FOR PARKS, I DO. AS LONG AS WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT PUTTING OURSELVES IN A, IN A BIGGER ISSUE THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER BASS, THANK YOU, ANDY. APPRECIATE THE APPRECIATE THE EFFORT YOU PUT IN HERE. I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, IF WE'RE PUTTING IT ON THE MARSHALS TO CLOSE UP EACH NIGHT AT 10:00, WE'VE GOT TO ALSO REMEMBER FOR THEM TO COME BACK IN THE MORNING AND OPEN THE PARK BACK UP PARK STAFF, PARK STAFF. OKAY, PERFECT. AND THEN WILL WE HAVE HOURS OF OPERATION ON THE GATES. SO WHEN PEOPLE PULL UP, THEY CAN SEE, OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT AT THE PICTURE [01:10:07] ON YOUR LEFT, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THOSE CARS. SO THAT IS A, THAT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY THERE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT WE DON'T HAVE PERMISSION. RIGHT? SO, SO WHATEVER WE, WHATEVER WE DO, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, TO PUT SOMETHING EITHER RUNNING NORTH SOUTH RIGHT THERE OR GET THEIR PERMISSION AND RUN IT ALONG THE SIDEWALK THERE. I LOVE THE LUNAR STONES. MY, MY OUTDOOR KITCHEN IS A LUNAR STONE COUNTERTOP, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH LUNAR STONE. AND I'M THINKING THOUGH AS CLOSELY AS WE HAVE THOSE TOGETHER ON THE DRIVE, I MEAN, IMAGINE YOU COULD PUT THEM, YOU KNOW, MOVE THAT THAT SPAN TO EIGHT, EIGHT, TEN FEET APART TO STILL, YOU KNOW, DETER CARS FROM, FROM DRIVING THROUGH THEM TO PARK AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TAKE ABOUT HALF OF THOSE STONES AND THEN PUT THEM ACROSS MILLER ROAD. THAT COULD BE A COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO IT THERE. JUST SPREAD THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID HERE TONIGHT. LIMITING ACCESS I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF. ALSO, I GUESS OUR ALL OF OUR PARKS OPEN TILL TEN. ARE THEY OPEN TILL DUSK? I THINK. I THINK WE CHANGED THEM TO MIDNIGHT, EXCEPT THIS ONE WAS CHANGED FROM MIDNIGHT TO 10 P.M. OKAY, OKAY. THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT TO ACROSS THE BOARD. A LOT OF CITIES PARKS ARE CLOSED AT DUSK. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT DETERS, THAT DETERS SOME, SOME ACTIVITY THAT WE DON'T WANT OUT THERE. BUT JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. LIKE EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD TONIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYOR, SINCE THE THE COUNCIL ASKED ABOUT THE MARSHALS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SET CLEAR EXPECTATIONS. AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE SEVERAL MARSHALS EVERY NIGHT. SO FOR MARSHAL CALLED IN SICK. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE COULD BE A NIGHT. UNLESS WE WERE GOING TO MAKE IT AN OVERTIME ASSIGNMENT. INCUR THOSE COSTS. IT COULD BE A NIGHT FROM TIME TO TIME WHERE THE PARK DOESN'T GET CLOSED. I DON'T WANT TO SET THE EXPECTATION. I THINK IT GENERALLY THEY WILL CLOSE IT. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, IF PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE GATES ARE GENERALLY CLOSED, THEY'RE GOING TO NOT BE COMING THERE AND STAYING THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE GATES AREN'T GOING TO CLOSE. I JUST DON'T WANT THERE TO BE AN EXPECTATION THAT 365 DAYS A YEAR, THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE A NIGHT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A MARSHAL UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT A MANDATORY ASSIGNMENT AND PAY OVERTIME IF A MARSHAL DOESN'T SHOW UP, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO DO, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE NECESSARY. I JUST WANT TO SET THOSE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS. AND ANDY HAD A QUESTION TOO AS WELL, REGARDING THE BURNOUTS IN THE PARKING LOT. CAN WE PUT SOME SPEED BUMPS DOWN THERE? THAT WAS THE FIRST STEP WE TOOK. GOSH, NOT TOO LONG AFTER IT WAS OPENED HAS NOT BEEN A DETERRENT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT IT IS USED AS A LAUNCH POINT. VERY GOOD. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE, MA'AM. IN IN THE EVENT THAT A MARSHAL IS NOT ABLE TO CLOSE THE GATE, WOULD PD BE ABLE TO GO BY AT SOME POINT THAT EVENING AND DO IT? I CERTAINLY COULD DISCUSS THAT WITH THE CHIEF AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE ARRANGEMENTS, EVEN IF IT'S 1:00 IN THE MORNING. YEAH, AT SOME POINT THEY COULD CLOSE THE GATE. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. OKAY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO OFFER UP MY SERVICES. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GO CLOSE THOSE GATES AND GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR. OH, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S SAYING NO, BUT I'M ALL ABOUT IT. WE WE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT, BUT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO COUNSEL THEN LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON INSTALLATION OF GATES AROUND. UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION I NEED FOR AT LEAST TWO PATHWAYS GOING FORWARD, AND I'LL REPORT BACK RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS [7. GDC Amendment ORD 26-02] GDC AMENDMENT ORDINANCE 2602. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I DO NOT HAVE A POWERPOINT TONIGHT. THIS SHOULD BE PRETTY QUICK. A LOT OF THE TIMES WE BRING IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE INITIATED AMENDMENTS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR REPORT OUT. THIS DID NOT COME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE. THIS IS A STAFF INITIATED ONE. SO WE WANT TO HAVE THAT SAME SETTING WHERE BEFORE WE GO IN AND PUT IN A LOT OF STAFF TIME IN MAKING AN AMENDMENT, WE'RE PRESENTING IT AT WORK SESSION AND GETTING COUNCIL'S BLESSING THAT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE STAFF TO WORK ON. SO AS YOU'RE AWARE, LAST YEAR THE PLAT PROCESS WAS MADE ADMINISTRATIVE FOLLOWING THE STATE LEGISLATURE, ALLOWING IT THAT TO BE ADMINISTRATIVE. THIS HAS MADE OUR PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT AS AS A CUSTOMER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR PLAN COMMISSION MEETING STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO WRITE A WHOLE STAFF REPORT AND SO ON AND SO [01:15:04] FORTH. WE HAVE SINCE IDENTIFIED THERE ARE COUPLE OTHER PROCESSES IN OUR DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO THAT ARE INTERLINKED WITH THE PLAT PROCESS, BUT THE GDC STILL REFERS THOSE TO FOR A PLAN COMMISSION PROCESS. THOSE ARE THE SIDEWALK WAIVER AND THE ALLEY WAIVER PROCESS. SO THE SIDEWALK WAIVER IS NEEDED WHEN YOU'RE, LET'S SAY, BUILDING A HOUSE, BUT THERE'S NOT AN EXISTING SIDEWALK NETWORK WHERE YOU CAN CONNECT TO. SO THE PROCESSES THEY WILL ASK FOR A SIDEWALK WAIVER. THERE ARE SPECIFIC CRITERIA IN OUR GDC FOR THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING TO TAKE A LOOK AT. AND IF THEY APPROVE THE WAIVER, THE CUSTOMER OR THE PERSON WILL PAY THE AMOUNT EQUIVALENT FOR THE CITY TO GO AND BUILD A SIDEWALK IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT STAYS WITH THE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENGINEERING. NOW, WITH THAT PROCESS, WE'RE PROPOSING TWO UPDATES TO IT. FIRST OF ALL, SINCE PLATS ARE NOW APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE BELIEVE THIS SHOULD ALSO BECOME ADMINISTRATIVE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A DISCRETIONARY PROCESS. THE GDC DOES OUTLINE WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT WHEN LOOKING INTO THESE WAIVER, THE SIDEWALK WAIVER? WE THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING TO EVALUATE THE REQUEST AND MAKE THE FINAL CALL ALONG WITH THE PLAT PROCESS, BECAUSE THESE DO COME IN WITH THE PLAT APPLICATION. IN THE PAST, THE APPLICANT HAD THE ABILITY, PER THE GDC, TO APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE PLAN COMMISSION WAS THE DECISION MAKER. WITH THIS PLAN, COMMISSION WILL BECOME THE APPEAL BODY BECAUSE STAFF WILL BE THE REGULAR DECISION MAKER AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH HOW OUR PLAT PROCESS IS SET UP. THE OTHER THING THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK INTO WAS THAT CURRENTLY, THE GDC SAYS THE CITY HAS TO REFUND THE MONEY IF CONSTRUCTION OF THAT SIDEWALK HAS NOT COMMENCED WITHIN TWO YEARS. WE HAVE TALKED TO ENGINEERING A LOT, AND WE DO THINK TWO YEARS IS VERY STRINGENT CONSIDERING HOW CITY PROJECTS WORK. IF THERE'S A CITY PROJECT TO GO BUILD A SIDEWALK IN AN AREA THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT A TWO YEAR LONG PROCESS, SO WE THINK IT SHOULD BE MADE FIVE YEARS, AND WITHIN FIVE YEARS WE WANT TO PUT IN THAT THE SIDEWALK HAS TO BE DESIGNED FOR CONSTRUCTION, NOT THAT IT HAS TO BE CONSTRUCTED. WE THINK THAT WILL BE MORE OF A REALISTIC TIMELINE, AND ALSO GIVES US THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THAT PAYMENT AND GO BUILD THE SIDEWALKS AND NOT JUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR NOTHING. SIMILAR UPDATE WITH ALI WAIVERS CURRENTLY, ALI'S ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS OF TWO OR MORE LOTS. THE DEVELOPER HAS THE OPTION TO REQUEST A WAIVER TO THAT. AND AGAIN, THERE ARE CRITERIA SET IN THE GDC THAT ALLOWS THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BUT AGAIN, THIS. WITH THE CURRENT PROCESS, THIS GOES TO PLAN COMMISSION. WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT IT BECOMES ADMINISTRATIVE WITH WITH THE PLAT PROCESS. ONE OTHER ELEMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO, AGAIN, IT'S MORE OF A CLEANUP THING. WE HAVE A WORKING PLAT PROCESS. IT'S MORE OF AN INFORMAL REVIEWS OF PLATS BEFORE PLAT APPLICATIONS COME IN SO THAT THE APPLICANT DOESN'T GO IN BLIND WITH THE PLAT AND RISK BEING DENIED, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK TO WORK ON. SO WITHIN 30 DAYS WE HAVE TO RENDER A DECISION. THE GDC IS NOT SUPER CLEAR ON IT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO CLARIFY THE FACT THAT THE WORKING PLAT IS IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, BUT IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THE MOMENT WE MAKE IT REQUIRED, IT BECOMES A 30 DAY PROCESS, 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK PROCESS. SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO TACKLE WITH THIS AMENDMENT. WE JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ALL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GO WORK ON, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. COUNCILMEMBER DENTON, JUST A QUESTION. IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T JUST DO AWAY WITH. THE SIDEWALK WAIVERS AT ALL AND JUST REQUIRE THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A SIDEWALK JUST IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE IF THERE'S NOTHING TO CONNECT TO, WE DON'T WANT TO FOR SOMEONE TO BUILD A SIDEWALK AND JUST HAVE IT ON THEIR PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON EITHER SIDE OF IT. BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE OTHER PROPERTIES ARE MOST LIKELY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SIDEWALK, RIGHT? THEY MAY THE REASON IT'S BUILT THAT WAY, I BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, THE CITY MAY ALSO INVEST IN GOING AND BUILDING THOSE SIDEWALKS. SO IT'S BETTER TO GO BUILD THOSE SIDEWALKS ALL AT ONCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS. YOU MENTIONED THE SIDEWALKS. YOU [01:20:03] MENTIONED A CHANGE IN THAT. THEY DID DO THE DESIGN ON IT AND SUBMIT THAT TO YOUR OFFICE. IT'LL BE ENGINEERING, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENGINEERING. ENGINEERING IS THAT DESIGN AND SUBMIT. SO WHAT I WAS MENTIONING IS THAT WE MAKE IT A FIVE YEAR REFUND WINDOW. SO WITHIN FIVE YEARS, THE CITY'S ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE WITH A PLAN TO CONSTRUCT THE SIDEWALK IN THAT AREA. OTHERWISE THEY WILL HAVE TO REFUND THE MONEY. SO IT'LL BE A CITY INITIATED PROCESS. CITY INITIATED. CORRECT IN MOST SITUATIONS. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SIMPLE QUESTIONS ON THE SIDEWALK WAIVERS I CAN I COULD SEE SOME OF THE THOSE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. I KNOW WE HAVE LIKE A CELL TOWER WHERE WE HAVE ONE ON NORTH FIFTH STREET. WHEN THEY BUILT THAT CELL TOWER, THEY PUT A SIDEWALK IN THERE THAT COULDN'T BE MORE THAN 100FT LONG. THERE'S NO SIDEWALK TO THE NORTH OF IT, NO SIDEWALK TO THE SOUTH OF IT. IT'S JUST SAT THERE AS AN ORPHAN FOR PROBABLY 15, 20 YEARS. SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING TO KIND OF HOLD OFF ON THAT KIND OF THINKING, WHERE YOU JUST HAVE THIS ONE LITTLE ORPHANED LITTLE SIDEWALK SITTING OUT THERE FOR NO GOOD REASON. THAT IS THE THAT IS THE ENTIRE REASON OF HAVING THE SIDEWALK WAIVER PROCESS. OKAY. AND HAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD ANY CASES THAT YOU CAN THINK OF WHERE THIS NOT BE APPROPRIATE? YEAH. THESE ARE NOT TOO FREQUENT TO BE HONEST. NO. OKAY. WELL, THE QUESTION I SAW OUT OF THE CORNER OF MY EYE, BUT THE WORD OF GOD WAS COMING DOWN. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER? NO, NO, IT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT WAS HAVE THEY HAD ANY CASES WHERE THEY WHERE THEY WERE, WERE THEY OVERRODE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? YOU CAN THINK OF NOT THAT NOT THAT I'M AWARE. AND AGAIN, THESE DON'T THESE ARE NOT FREQUENT APPLICATIONS. THERE WOULD ONLY BE MAYBE 2 OR 3 EVERY YEAR. SO NO, WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN ANY WHERE THEY OVERRODE IT BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY IN THE PAST. IT WAS TOGETHER. IT CAME TO WENT TO THEM WITH THE PLAT APPLICATION AND THE PLAT WAS A MINISTERIAL PROCESS. SO THEY JUST WENT AHEAD AND APPROVED IT, RIGHT. YEAH. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO ARE THEY? THEY HAD TO JUST PASS THAT BY, YOU KNOW. CORRECT. AS IT WAS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY TECHNICAL REASON FOR THAT TO NOT BE PASSED. IF THERE WOULD BE A TECHNICAL REASON, STAFF WOULD BE POINTING THAT OUT. ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IT. CORRECT. IT WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN GOTTEN TO THEM AT THAT POINT. IT WOULD STILL BE GOTTEN TO THEM, PROBABLY WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL FROM STAFF IN THE PAST. BUT NOW THE PLAT PROCESS IS ADMINISTRATIVE, SO STAFF WOULD JUST DENY IT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER MORE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO WHAT I'M WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU TO SAY WITHOUT TRYING TO TAKE EACH OF THE SUBJECTS THAT YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT INDIVIDUALLY. WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU TO SAY IS THAT BECAUSE OF CHANGES IN THE LAW, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT YOU AS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HAVE HAD AS IT RELATED TO THESE DIFFERENT SUBJECTS, YOU'RE ASKING US TONIGHT IF WE THINK IF WE WILL GIVE YOU APPROVAL TO GO AND RESEARCH AND BRING BACK TO US. SO. RESOLUTIONS, SOME THOUGHTS, SOME IDEAS AS IT RELATES TO HOW WE CAN STRUCTURE THIS IN SUCH A MANNER THAT YOU AS A PLANNING DIRECTOR CAN MOVE FORWARD. IS THAT WHAT I'M GETTING? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT WITHOUT GOING INTO EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL THOUGHTS THAT YOU PUT BEFORE US. YES, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK INTO EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WILL BE RECOMMENDING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SIR, I HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. I THINK THAT GIVES ME PAUSE. IS HAVING THAT DESIGNED BY DATE, AND THEN THERE'S NO ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION DATE BECAUSE YOU CAN DESIGN SOMETHING. YOU CAN SIT ON A SHELF FOR 20 YEARS AND NEVER ACTUALLY GET AROUND TO IT. BUT OTHERWISE, I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOU'LL BRING BACK. SO COUNCIL LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON HAVING STAFF BRING BACK. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU SIR. THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN YOU THINK. ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FINAL ITEM FOR VERBAL [8. Texas Municipal League (TML) Mid-year Conference Report] BRIEFING. THIS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE MID-YEAR CONFERENCE REPORT. COUNCIL MEMBERS MOORE AND DUTTON. I'VE TURNED ON YOUR MICS. WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST. MR. MAYOR, IF I MIGHT GO FIRST. I I'VE GOT VERY LITTLE TO SAY THIS EVENING AS IT RELATES TO OUR TIME TOGETHER. AND CARISSA HAS TAKEN IT UPON HERSELF THAT SHE WILL GIVE A [01:25:05] REPORT FOR BOTH OF US. THANK YOU. CARISSA. SO TML MID YEAR CONFERENCE THIS YEAR WAS HELD IN SUGARLAND. AND I, MOST OF US HERE IN THIS ROOM KNOW THAT THE MID YEAR CONFERENCE IS TYPICALLY GEARED FOR SMALLER TOWNS. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE GO TO THE MID-YEAR CONFERENCE, WE ARE QUITE LITERALLY THE LARGEST TOWN IN ATTENDANCE. HOWEVER, THIS YEAR IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IT WASN'T QUITE SO SMALL TOWN BASED. WITH THAT BEING SAID, OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER OPENING MORNING WAS BRETT KOLB, AND HE HAS A MOVIE CALLED LEGENDS OF THE LEGENDS OF THE NIGHT. NIGHT LIKE A AN ARMOR, NOT THE EVENING NIGHT. AND SO HE WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS OF THE, OF THE CONFERENCE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT. IT WAS, IT WAS A LITTLE, A LITTLE FUNNY BECAUSE HE TALKED A LOT ABOUT LEADERSHIP AND WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A GOOD LEADER. AND THE NIGHT BEFORE EDITOR AND MYSELF AND MY KID WENT OUT TO DINNER. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS, WAS THE LEADERSHIP AND WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A GOOD LEADER. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE LIKE HAD A BUG AT OUR TABLE, BUT HE, HE, HE HIT ON A LOT OF POINTS THAT, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE NIGHT BEFORE. AND SO I WANT TO READ JUST A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT HE SAID THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME AND THAT I THINK ARE, ARE BENEFICIAL GIVEN OUR CURRENT OUR CURRENT CLIMATE AS A COUNCIL AND A CITY. SO HE SAYS, MY WORK WAS NEVER ABOUT ME. IT'S ALWAYS SERVICE OVER SELF. AND IT'S EASY TO FORGET THE TRUTH. THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY FULL OF GOOD PEOPLE. IT'S NOT WORK. IT'S A MISSION. REAL LEADERSHIP IS INVITING PEOPLE ON A MISSION TO DO SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY TOGETHER. THE LEADER ISN'T THE ONE WITH THE BEST IDEAS. IT'S THE ONE GUIDING THE WAY WITH A SAFE PLACE. LOOK BEYOND THE MESS AND THE CHAOS. LAY DOWN AGENDAS AND MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE WITH HUMILITY. PEOPLE ARE NOT A PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED. THEY ARE FORCED TO BE UNLEASHED. SEE THE LIGHT THAT IS ALREADY THERE? STOP THINKING OF YOUR CITY AS A PROBLEM AND FIND ITS BEAUTY AND MAKE IT THE BEST VERSION OF ITSELF. AND THEN ONE OF THE THE LAST POINTS THAT HE SAID WAS, HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THEMSELVES AFTER SPENDING TIME WITH YOU? SO IT WAS IT WAS HE WAS A GREAT A GREAT SPEAKER. THOSE WERE SOME OF THE KEY POINTS THAT THAT I TOOK AWAY. WE DID MAKE IT A POINT TO GO LOOK AT SOME OF THEIR REDEVELOPMENT THAT THEY HAVE GOING ON IN SUGAR LAND. UNFORTUNATELY FOR US, THEY'RE BEHIND SCHEDULE. I IMAGINE THAT A CITY BEHIND SCHEDULE. SO A LOT OF THE PLACES THAT WE WENT TO, THEY WERE STILL IN THE DEMOLITION PHASE. THEY HAVE THE ORIGINAL IMPERIAL SUGAR MANUFACTURING SITE, WHICH WAS REALLY COOL. SO WE GOT TO DRIVE BY THAT AND SEE, SEE WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE. THAT THERE, IT' 50 OR 45 ACRES THAT THEY'RE REDEVELOPING INTO A MULTI-USE AREA. THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY COOL. I TRIED TO CONVINCE MIKE TO BUY US THIS CUTE LITTLE BUILDING AND JUST SHIP IT BACK TO GARLAND, BECAUSE IT WAS SUPER COOL, VERY ALAMO ESQUE. SO WE HAD WE HAD A PHENOMENAL TIME. NETWORKING IS MY FAVORITE PART OF GOING TO TML. WE GOT TO KIDNAP THE MAYOR OF MAHIA AND YEAH, THAT WAS THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN. IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE'S PROBLEMS ARE, AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE LOOK AT US LIKE, OH, YOU HAVE $1 BILLION OPERATING BUDGET. AND SO THEY CAN'T, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN'T RELATE TO WHAT OUR PROBLEMS ARE VERSUS THEIRS BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT LESS THAN $1 MILLION IN THEIR OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. AND SO IT, IT'S REALLY COOL TO, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND SEE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, LIKE WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS. IT'S JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT. RIGHT? AND SO WE, WE HAD A LOT OF FUN. AND I THINK WE, WE LEARNED SOME NEW [01:30:01] THINGS ABOUT DIFFERENT CITIES AND GOT TO, GOT TO CHAT WITH ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM CANNONDALE THERE IN THEIR, IN THEIR REAL GROWTH STAGE. AND SO KIND OF GOT TO SHARE SOME OF OUR EXPERIENCES THAT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH REDEVELOPMENT VERSUS GROWTH. AND SO IT WAS, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD TRIP. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT TOOK PLACE THERE, I DID A SUMMARY ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE HAD. BUT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD REPORT, AND I THINK THAT IT WAS PRETTY GOOD IN THE MANNER BY WHICH YOU FOCUSED ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [ ANNOUNCE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] ALRIGHT. COUNCIL NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS ANNOUNCING FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. COUNCILMEMBER DUNN OKAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO ADDRESS AN ORDINANCE TO ALLOW PD TO HOLD AN OWNER SLASH RESIDENT RESPONSIBLE FOR FIREWORKS SLASH GUNFIRE. ALL RIGHT. AND I HE A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM LET AND THAT'S ALL I GOT. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL ANY OTHERS? SEE? NONE. YOU GUYS KNOW HOW TO GET ONE OVER. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, COME UP AND [ EXECUTIVE SESSION] COUNCIL. NOW WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 551.071551.086 AND 551.133 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ITEM NUMBER NINE IS COMPETITIVE MATTERS RELATED TO GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT AS IT PERTAINS TO THE QUARTERLY BRIEFING FROM THE RISK OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE BY 51.086 AND 552.133, AND ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATION RELATED TO THE SAME 551.071. ITEM NUMBER TEN IS THREATENED LITIGATION RELATED SETTLEMENT DEMAND AND ATTORNEY CLIENT COMMUNICATIONS RELATED TO THE SAME. 551.071 COUNSEL. IT IS. 732. W * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.