* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. AND STRONG. [00:00:01] GOOD EVENING. [Eastern Hills Mission Hills Round Table Discussion on February 24, 2026.] GOOD EVENING. EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH, VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. APPRECIATE THE RESIDENT OF EASTERN HILLS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME TOGETHER FOR THIS IMPORTANT GROUNDING TABLE DISCUSSION. YOUR PRESENCE REFLECTS HOW MUCH YOU SHARE, HOW ABOUT YOUR DATA WITH US, AND THE KIND OF INVOLVEMENT THAT KIND OF INVOLVEMENT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY SPOKE. WE'RE ALIVE AND WE'RE BEING LIVE STREAMED. THE PURPOSE OF THE MIND MEETING IS SOME CLARITY, TRANSPARENCY, AND COMMUNICATION. MANY OF YOU HAVE RAISED VOCAL QUESTIONS ABOUT RATING ELEVATIONS, DRAINAGE, BUFFERS, MENTS, AND WHAT DEVELOPMENT IS PROCEEDING ACCORDING TO APPROVED PLAN. THESE ARE REASONABLE QUESTIONS AND CAN DESERVE CLEAR AND ACCURATE ANSWERS. THIS MEETING IS DESIGNED TO BE AN IN INFORMAL INFORMATIONAL WORKING SESSION, NOT A DEBATE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT INFORMATION. AND WE ENSURE YOU THAT YOUR CONCERN THAT THEY HEARD CAN BE FAST, WILL BE ADDRESSED. WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE CITY, LEADERSHIP AND STAFF TO TONIGHT WILL HELP WALK US THROUGH THE TECHNICAL DETAILS, INCLUDING CITY MANAGER, MY VETS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, CRYSTAL OWENS AND HER OTHER STAFF HERE WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ROLE AS PART OF GARLAND'S FUTURE, BUT ROLE MUST BE RESPONSIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH APPROVED PLANS AND CITY STANDARDS. JUST AS IMPORTANT EVIDENCE SHALL UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHY WHEN QUESTIONS ARISE. THEY ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWERS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE VIGILANT. WE'LL BEGIN THIS EVENING WITH BRIEF REMARKS FROM OUR CITY MANAGER, MIKE BETS, FOLLOWED BY DETAIL OVERVIEW FROM OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, CRYSTAL OWENS, WHO WILL ADDRESS THE KEY ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE US. AFTER THE PRESENTATION WILL MOVE INTO QUESTIONS AND OVER DISCUSSION, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT WE KEEP OUR COMMENTS FOCUSED, CONSTRUCTIVE, AND COURAGEOUS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE BEST OF OUR TIME AND ENSURE EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO YOUR NEGATIVE. WITH THAT, MIKE, THANK YOU COUNCIL. SO WHEN COUNCILMAN MOORE TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY AND I HEARD SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BEING ASKED, UH, I TOLD HIM THAT I ASSEMBLED THE STAFF FROM THE CITY TOGETHER SO THAT YOU COULD HEAR FIRSTHAND IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IS OUT THERE WITH PERSPECTIVE. WHAT ARE OUR ENGINEERS LOOKING AT? WHAT ARE OUR PEOPLE WHO GO OUT ON BIG INSPECTIONS LOOKING AT, ARE THEY COMPLYING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WE HAVE? ARE THEY COMPLYING WITH THE TECHNICAL STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE? ARE THEY DOING WHAT IT IS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE LEAVE TONIGHT, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE AWARE OF OUT THERE, WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MONITOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE, AND WHETHER IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE REQUIRE AND THE TECHNICAL STANDARDS FOR DEVELOPMENTS OUT HERE. UM, I HOPE THAT AT THE END OF THE LINE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU THINK THEY'RE DOING THINGS OUT THERE THAT DON'T COMPLY WITH THEIR TECHNICAL STANDARDS, DON'T COMPLY WITH WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE AND HOW IT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, THAT YOU'LL RAISE THOSE ISSUES. AND IF NOT TONIGHT, THAT REACH OUT TO ME AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT I SEE GOING ON THAT I DON'T THINK APPLIES. SO WE CAN LOOK INTO IT. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE, IF YOU GO OUT AND SEE A CONDITION ON THE GROUND, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT OR THAT WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING, REACH OUT. UH, IF THE CITY, IF THE DEVELOPER OUT THERE IS NOT DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, IS NOT DOING IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR TECHNICAL STANDARDS, IS NOT DOING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE WON'T HEAR FROM YOU AND WE'LL TAKE ACTION ACCORDING BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HOLD 'EM TO THE SAND. SO WE HOLD THAT REALLY DEVELOPMENT TEAM CITY. UH, AND WITH THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT THE AS MANAGER CHRIS GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH, UH, BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE AND HOW IT MEET OUR STANDARDS. AND THEY LISTEN TO YOUR CONCERNS AND SAY, YOU AWARE THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT? DON'T MEET OUR STANDARDS. THEN WE WANT HEAR FROM YOU. THEN WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DECISION ACCELERATE. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND JUST FAITH AND FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T ADDRESS. SO WORK. THANK YOU. SO AS COUNCIL MILLER [00:05:01] AND CITY ANDREW, BUT SAY IT. UM, MY NAME IS CRYSTAL OWENS. I'M ONE OF RESISTANCE CITY MANAGERS HERE, THE CITY OF GARLAND, THE OWNER TO MY END. UM, FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO COME IN COUNCILMAN MOORE AND THAT FOR RECOGNIZING THAT FOR YOU ALL TO COME AND HEAR ABOUT REAL CONCERNS AS WELL AS TO GIVE STA AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS. UM, BECAUSE WE ARE BEING PEPPERED WITH THOSE QUESTIONS FOR SURE. I AM UNDER NO ILLUSION THAT WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, YOU ARE GOING TO FALL IN LOVE WITH THIS PROJECT. THAT IS NOT THE INTENT TONIGHT. THAT'S NOT MY PURPOSE FOR BEING HERE. THAT'S NOT MY PURPOSE FOR SPEAKING WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THIS OVERALL PROJECT. MY INTENT TONIGHT IS TO TRY AND GIVE YOU AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE HAVE THAT IS AVAILABLE AND THEN TO TRY AND ANSWER WHATEVER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THEY EVEN HAVE ONCE THE PRESENTATION IS COMPLETE. SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. UM, AS STATED, UM, WE'RE HERE TO BASICALLY CLARIFY THE ACCEPTED ENGINEERING PLANS VERSUS THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT GRADING, ABOUT DRAINAGE, ABOUT SLOPE STABILIZATION. UM, WE'VE ALSO HAD QUESTIONS. THIS LITERALLY IS A COMPILATION OF THE QUESTIONS AND THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, UM, AT THE STAFF LEVEL. MM-HMM. UM, AS YOU SEE, THE LAST THING THAT WE HAVE ON THERE IS THAT, UM, I WILL BE RESPONDING TO ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. I HAVE, UM, MYSELF HERE AS WELL AS THE DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING. UM, ANDY HAS SERVICES AT CITY MANAGER OVER PLANNING. AND THEN WHO'S IN THE BACK, SHE IS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. SO MY COMMITMENT TO YOU TONIGHT IS THAT ONE, I WILL NOT MAKE ANY GUESSES IF I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER AND SOMEONE HERE IS, AND OUT ON THE STAFF LEVEL DOES NOT HAVE AN ANSWER, WE WILL GET BACK WITH YOU. WE WILL CLOSE THAT LOOP. I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THAT I HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS 'CAUSE I MAY OR MAY NOT. MY OTHER COMMITMENT TO YOU TONIGHT IS THAT I WILL MAKE CERTAIN THAT WHATEVER INFORMATION THAT I AM GIVING YOU IS TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT IS MY COMMITMENT TO YOU TONIGHT. SO AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPER AND PROJECT OVERVIEW, ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE DIRECT QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED. UH, THIS IS THE LIST, THE LEGAL DEVELOPER OF RECORD, THAT IS HOLMES. AND THEN YOU SEE THAT MARK SET WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF LAND DEVELOPMENT. THIS ZONING, THE PD WAS APPROVED BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2018. UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO NEED A REFERENCE THAT Z 1837, AS FAR AS THE SITE PERMIT APPROVALS, WE APPROVED THE MASS GRADING BACK IN MAY OF LAST YEAR. AND THEN THIS PHASE ONE SUBDIVISION WAS IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. AND THIS IS A MULTI-PHASE PROJECT. AND YOU'LL SEE THE DATES, UH, FOR THIS OVERALL PROJECT A LITTLE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. AS FAR AS OUR CURRENT PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION, WE ARE IN MASS GRADING AS WELL AS PHASE ONE OF UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THIS IS AN OVERALL VIEW OF THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PD, PD 1837. AND A COUPLE OF SLIDES DOWN, YOU'LL SEE A SIDE BY SIDE VIEW, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL SITE EVEN IN MIND THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT CONCEPT PLANS, THIS IS LITERALLY A PRETTY PICTURE. THIS IS AN IDEA OF WHAT COULD BE OUT THERE OR WHAT CAN BE OUT THERE, BUT IT'S NOT BASED ON ANY KIND OF OF DETAILED SURVEYING, ANY KIND OF DETAILED ENGINEERING WORK. THIS IS LITERALLY A PRETTY PICTURE WITHOUT ALL THE ENGINEERING THAT GOES BEHIND IT. IT, IT IS A CONCEPT PLAN. AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT UP, THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN THAT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED FOR, UM, THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION. AND THEN IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE TWO OF THEM SIDE BY SIDE, THEY'RE VERY CLOSELY ALIGNED. THERE HAS BEEN STATEMENTS MADE THAT IT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN. THESE ARE THE TWO, THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN. THIS IS A SIDE BY SIDE VIEW. WE LITERALLY ALIGN THEM IN THE SAME WAY, ORIENT THEM IN THE SAME WAY SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF HOW CLOSELY THEY ACTUALLY DO ALIGN. THIS IS AFTER ALL OF THE ENGINEERING HAS TAKEN PLACE. THIS IS AFTER LOOKING AT ALL OF THE GRADING, ALL OF THE DRAINAGE. AND THIS IS THE ULTIMATE, UM, [00:10:01] DESIGN PLAN FOR THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION. SO THIS IS REALLY FOR ME WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING. I AM AN ENGINEER. I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE AS CITY ENGINEERS IS WHEN WE LOOK AT DESIGN PLANS, THERE'S ALWAYS THE, COULD IT BE BETTER? COULD WE DO IT DIFFERENT? BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IF I PUT FIVE ENGINEERS IN A ROOM AND I GAVE THEM A PROJECT TO DESIGN, AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS, I'M GONNA GET FIVE DIFFERENT ENGINEERING DESIGNS WITHOUT A DOUBT BECAUSE WE ALL THINK DIFFERENT. BUT WHERE WE ARE AS CITY ENGINEERS IS THAT WE HAVE DESIGN GOVERNANCE. AND THE ONLY THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IS DOES THIS PLAN MEET THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS Z 1837? I KEEP REFERRING BACK TO THAT. DOES IT MEET OUR GIRL IN DEVELOPMENT CODE AND DOES IT MEET OUR TECH STANDARDS MANUAL? I DON'T HAVE THE OPTION, NOR DOES MY TEAM HAVE THE OPTION OF SAYING, I DON'T LIKE THIS. WHAT THEY CAN SAY IS, I CAN RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALL DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO THAT. SO OUR HANDS ARE, WE'RE PRETTY CUT WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO. IF IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE TECH SAN TECH STANDARDS MANUAL, WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS THE GENERAL CONDITIONS. UM, AND THIS IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF THE, UM, PD 1837, THERE WAS 300 HUNDRED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH 1700 TO 2000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM ON THOSE HOMES. THERE'S A 75 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND A 15 FOOT UNDISTURBED UNDISTURBED ZONE PER THE GVC. AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE MISCONCEPTIONS OR MAYBE NOT A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT IS. PLEASE EXCUSE ME. THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR 35% OPEN SPACE AS WELL AS AN EASEMENT DEDICATION FOR A FUTURE TRAIL CONNECTION. THAT'S NOT DURING THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION. IT IS THE EASEMENT DEDICATION THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THIS TRAIL CONNECTION TO BE COMPLETED AT A FUTURE DATE. WHEN IT COMES TO DRAINAGE STORM WATER AND EROSION PROTECTION, THE, THE DESIGN STORM FOR THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A HUNDRED YEAR. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THERE'S A 1% CHANCE THAT THIS STORM COULD HAPPEN AT ANY GIVEN TIME. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE STORM IS GONNA HAPPEN EVERY A HUNDRED YEARS, JUST MEAN IF THERE IS A 1% CHANCE THAT AT ANY GIVEN TIME THIS PARTICULAR STORM COULD HAPPEN. THAT IS OUR STANDARD THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF BERLIN. IT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LEARNED AS ENGINEERS OVER THE YEARS THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEEDED TO GO. IT TELL YOU THAT SEVERAL DECADES BACK, WE STARTED AT A TWO YEAR STORM, FIVE YEAR STORM, A 10 YEAR STORM. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE CONDITIONS CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF GARLAND. UM, THE SEDIMENT BASINS THAT ARE OUT THERE, I THINK I'VE HEARD THE TERM MUDDY PITS IS AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION, BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDED THEM TO DO WAS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT UM, THE SEDIMENT DOES NOT END UP IN OUR C CREEK SOUND CREEKS AND STREAMS DOWNSTREAM OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THE SEDIMENT BASINS WILL NOT MAKE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THE STREETS, THE WATER SEWER, ALL THE UTILITIES AND STORM WATER. ONCE THOSE ARE COMPLETE, THE SEDIMENT BASINS WILL BE CONVERTED TO UM, KIND OF A PILOT DRAINAGE CHANNEL, BUT IT'LL BE VERY MUCH SO, UH, LESS INTRUSIVE AND WHAT YOU SEE AS FAR AS THE SEDIMENT BASINS RIGHT NOW. DO THE SEDIMENT BASINS NEED SOME TLC RIGHT NOW? ABSOLUTELY. AND THE CONTRACTOR IS ON THAT. HE IS AWARE OF THAT AND HE'S WORKING ON THAT. UM, AS FAR AS THE DRAINAGE SWELLS, SAME CONCEPT. THESE DRAINAGE SWELLS, THEY DO NEED SOME TLC AND ONCE AGAIN, THE CONTRACTOR IS AWARE OF THAT AND HE IS WORKING ON THAT. UH, THERE'S [00:15:01] ALSO GOING TO BE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED, BUT THERE IS A SECONDARY SELF FENCE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE. THERE'S GONNA BE A SECONDARY SILT FENCE PUT IN HERE TO TRY AND PROTECT THE ERO. I MEAN THE, UH, DRAINAGE SWELLS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I BELIEVE I RECEIVED A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, RETENTION PONDS OR DETENTION PONDS. THERE WILL NOT BE ANY WATER FEATURES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING RETENTION POND ON THE NORTH SIDE. SO ALL OF THE RUMORS ABOUT THE SEDIMENT BASINS TURNING INTO THE TENSION OR RETENTION PONDS, THAT IS NOT A PART OF THE PLAN. AND THEN AS FAR AS TEMPORARY EROSION CONTROL. SO THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE TEMPORARY EROSION CONTROL. WE HAVE TALKED TO THE CONTRACTOR ABOUT THAT AND HE IS, HE HAS ALREADY BEEN ON SITE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HE'S MANAGED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS WEEK, BUT I CAN ALSO TELL YOU THAT BASED ON THE SOIL CONDITIONS OUT THERE AND HOW WET IT'S BEEN, IF HE HAD GONE OUT WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE NEEDED TO GO OUT WITH, UM, PRIOR TO THIS WEEK, HE PROBABLY WOULD'VE MADE MORE OF A MISS THAN HE WOULD'VE IMPROVED THE SITUATION. AND THEN AS FAR AS PERMANENT STABILIZATION, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT UM, HERE SHORTLY. SO GRADING IS SLOPE DESIGN. THERE WAS A MASSIVE ELEVATION DIFFERENCE ACROSS ITS ENTIRE PROPERTY. IF YOU STARTED AT COUNTRY CLUB AND WENT TO THE LOWEST POINT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THERE WAS AN 86 FOOT DROP FROM COUNTRY CLUB TO THE LOWEST POINT. 86 FEET WAS THE VERTICAL DROP ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT. THE VERTICAL DROP BEHIND THE HOMES, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ON BLUFF USE SPECIFICALLY, IS, UM, IT VARIES FROM ABOUT 24, ABOUT 25 FEET FROM THE TOE OF THE SLOPE, WHICH IS GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND IN THIS AREA UP TO THE TOP OF THE ELEVATION OF THE, THE LOT ELEVATION. AND UM, I'LL ALSO TALK MORE ABOUT THE WALL HEIGHT HERE IN A BIT, BUT THE WALL HEIGHT THERE IS FROM TWO FEET TO 14 FEET. AND I WILL EXPLAIN THAT AS WELL. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE GRADING IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE, BUT THERE IS CONTINUED MAINTENANCE REQUIRED. THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION THAT WAS OUT ABOUT, UM, WHAT IS THE SLOPE RATIO AND THE RATIO THAT WAS, UM, APPROVED OR ACCEPTED IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS A FOUR TO ONE SLOPE RATIO. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR EVERY FOUR FEET? EXCUSE ME, FOR EVERY FOUR FEET HORIZONTALLY THERE IS A ONE FOOT VERTICAL. SO BACK AND UP, FOUR FEET BACK, ONE FOOT UP. AND THEN WHATEVER THIS ANGLE IS, THAT IS A FOUR TO ONE SLOPE, IT IS GENERALLY ACCEPTED AS MAINTAINABLE. UM, AND IT ALSO GENERALLY ACCEPTED AS BEING STABLE ONCE VEGETATION IS ESTABLISHED ON IT. SO THIS GRADING CROSS SECTION, AND IT'S NOT A REALLY BIG PICTURE, BUT I DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE AT 3006 BLUFF VIEW AND 3016. THESE ARE THE TWO EXTREMES OF THIS PARTICULAR GRADING AREA. UH, LET'S GET TO THAT ONE. SO THIS IS AT 3006 BLUFF VIEW. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MASS GRADING CROSS SECTION, UM, THIS IS THE FOUR TO ONE SLOPE. THIS IS 3006. AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPERTY LINE HERE. WE HAVE, UM, THE LOT LINE HERE AND THE STREET IS ON THAT SIDE, ON THE FAR SIDE WITH THIS BEING THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN THIS MASS GRADING PLAN AT THE TOP IS JUST, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SECTION IN A CROSS VIEW. SO THIS IS A CROSS SECTION OF THIS SECTION RIGHT BEHIND 3006. SO THIS WAS THE MASS GRADING, THE PHASE TWO GRADING CROSS SECTION. VERY SIMILAR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THERE WAS ADDITIONAL FEEL THAT WOULD BE TAKING PLACE BEHIND, UH, I'M SORRY, THERE'S A RETAINING WALL THAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE. AND THEN THIS GRADING WOULD BE, THE LOT WOULD BE FILLED BEHIND THE RETAINING WALL. I THINK I JUST MESSED THAT UP. LET ME, LET ME REWIND. [00:20:01] THIS IS THE MASS GRADING SECTION WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A STRAIGHT FOUR TO ONE SLOPE FROM LITERALLY THE TOE OF THE SLOPE ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPOSED LOT. WHAT THEY DID IS THEY CAME IN AND THEY FAILED WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN PHASE TWO? IN PHASE ONE. AND I WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AS WELL BECAUSE THERE IS A RETAINING WALL THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE TO STOP THAT SHEER CLIP THAT, UM, SOME OF YOU ARE SEEING BEHIND YOUR PROPERTIES. AND THEN THIS IS VERY SIMILAR, BUT THIS IS AT 3016 BLUFF VIEW AND THIS IS THE OTHER, UM, END WHICH THE RETAINING WALL HERE IS ABOUT TWO FEET VERSUS THE 12 FEET AT 3006. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SLOPE STABILITY, SLOPE STABILITY, AND RETAINING WALLS, THE INTERNAL WALL HEIGHTS THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE SUBDIVISION, THEY VARY FROM ABOUT TWO FEET TO 10 FEET. THE PERIMETER WALLS ARE THE WALLS AROUND THE OUTSIDE AND PARTICULARLY THE ONES THAT ARE LOCATED, UM, JUST ADJACENT TO BLUFF VIEW, THOSE WALLS ARE GOING TO VARY FROM TWO TO 14 FEET AND HIKE. AND UM, I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION ALSO ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD TO HAVE ENGINEER DESIGN PLANTS. SO IN THE CITY OF GARLAND, FOR ANY WALLS THAT ARE GREATER THAN FOUR FEET, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WALL. SO REALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANY WALL THAT'S MORE THAN ABOUT TWO AND A HALF FEET HIGH. 'CAUSE WE TYPICALLY HAVE A 12 TO 18 FOOT FOUNDATION ON A WALL THAT HIGH. UM, IT DOES REQUIRE ENGINEERED DESIGN PLANS. UM, THERE'S A PERMIT THAT'S ISSUED BY BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND ALL OF THAT IS BOUND UNDER THE 2015 IBC, WHICH IS WHAT WE USE HERE, THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODES. AND THEN OUR TECH STANDARDS MANUAL. UM, IN SECTION SEVEN. ONCE AGAIN, THE SLOPE RATIO IS FOUR TO ONE AND IT'S GENERALLY ACCEPTED AS STABLE AND IT IS MAINTAINABLE. AND WHEN I SAY MAINTAINABLE, WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE RIDING LAWNMOWERS, I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN SLOPES WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GONNA FALL OFF THE LAWNMOWER. WELL, A FOUR TO ONE TYPICALLY PREVENTS THAT. AND HONESTLY, A THREE TO ONE IS ACCEPTED AS WELL. BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, UM, THE CON THE DEVELOPER, THE CONTRACTOR ENGINEERING, WE ALL AGREED THAT THEY, THEY PROPOSED A FOUR TO ONE AND WE ACCEPTED THAT. AND THEN AS FAR AS SITE FIELD, THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF FIELD ON SITE, WHETHER NOT TESTING WAS DONE. I WANNA REMIND YOU ALL THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEN IT COMES TO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, WE TYPICALLY DO NOT, UM, MONITOR THE COMPACTION, TESTING THE PLACEMENT AND LIFTS THE SOIL CONDITIONING, ALL OF THAT. BUT IRONICALLY, IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, THE CONTRACTOR, UM, I KNOW DID THIS BECAUSE HE WAS SENDING ALL OF THOSE REPORTS TO OUR ENGINEERING TEAM AND THEY WERE RECEIVING THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO THEY WERE DOING THIS IN 11, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE EIGHT TO 11 INCH LIFTS. UH, THEY DID THE COMPACTION TESTING AND THEN THEY ALSO DID THE SOIL CONDITIONING, WHICH WAS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THE REQUIRED COMPACTION OUT THERE. THIS IS THE AREA THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ON THE NO DISTURB BUFFER VERSUS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. SO ACCORDING TO OUR GDC, OUR GROW AND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE WHAT'S CONSIDERED A NO NO DISTURB BUFFER. THIS, UH, SILT FENCING IS AT THE 15 FOOT MARK OFF OF THE BACK FENCE OR THE BACK PROPERTY LINE THAT COVERS THAT NO DISTURB BUFFER. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION OR SOME MISCOMMUNICATION ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALSO BEING A NO DISTURB BUFFER. I AM NOT ABLE TO FIND, NOR HAS ANY OF MY STAFF BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING THAT INDICATES THAT THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER WAS A NO DISTURB AREA AND THAT 75 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER OVERLAPS THE 15 FOOT NO DISTURB. SO FROM THE BACK OF, FROM THIS FENCE ALL THE WAY OUT THE NO, THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER MEANS THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY STRUCTURES IN THAT AREA. IT IS NOT A 75 FOOT NO DISTURB ZONE, IT'S A 75 [00:25:01] FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE PLAN AMENDMENTS AND CASE HISTORY, AND HERE'S A LIST OF THE CASES, AND BY THE WAY, I WILL, UM, TURN THIS INTO A PD, UH, A PDF SO THAT COUNCILMAN MOORE WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE IT WITH WITH ALL OF YOU ON WHATEVER PLATFORM HE CHOOSES TO SHARE IT ON. BUT THESE ARE THE, THE VARIOUS CASE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FOR THE ZONING CASE, FOR THE SITE PERMIT, FOR THE PHASE ONE IMPROVEMENTS. THE ONE THING THAT WE DID FIND THAT I WOULD SAY THE CONTRACTOR GOT AHEAD OF HIMSELF WAS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO BLUFF VIEW. YES. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THAT WHEN HE GOT AHEAD OF HIMSELF, THAT MEANS HE DID IT IN PHASE ONE. IT WAS COMING IN PHASE TWO. REGARDLESS, OUR SOLUTION TO THIS IS THAT THEY HAVE REQUESTED AND THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING THEIR RETAINING WALLS FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. AND, UM, ONCE THOSE ARE REVIEWED, THEY HAVE ALSO COMMITTED TO GOING AHEAD AND CONSTRUCTING THOSE RETAINING WALLS DURING PHASE TWO, I'M SORRY, DURING PHASE ONE. MM-HMM . THEY ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CONSTRUCT THOSE RETAINING WALLS DURING PHASE ONE. UM, AND THEN OTHER THAN THIS, WE HAVE, I CAN, I CAN EASILY CONFIRM THAT THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S OUT THERE THERE DOES ALIGN WITH, UM, OUR ACCEPTED ENGINEERING DRAWINGS. THIS WAS THE ONLY AREA THAT WHEN WE WENT AND WE LOOKED AT IT, AND I PROMISE YOU WE LOOKED HIGH AND LOW, LEFT AND RIGHT, UP AND DOWN, YOU NAME IT. WE LOOKED AT THIS ENTIRE SITE BASED ON THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE COMING THROUGH BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE POSSIBLY COULD. AND THESE WERE JUST ABOUT FIVE OF THE FAQS. UM, THE, THE QUESTION CAME UP AS TO WHETHER OR NOT A PRE-CONSTRUCTION SITE CONDITION DOCUMENTATION WAS PERFORMED. AS I STATED EARLIER, THIS IS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND TO OUR CONTRACTORS, BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS THEIR DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF DOCUMENTATION. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY AERIAL PHOTOS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY DRONE FLYOVERS. UM, NONE OF THAT. THOSE WERE ALSO THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME IN AND THAT IS WHAT THIS IS REFERENCING. UM, AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT WHICH DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROJECT INSPECTION, THAT IS OUR FIELD ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE OUT THERE AT LEAST ONCE A DAY, SOMETIMES MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING IN. IF THEY ARE POURING CONCRETE OR INSTALLING WATER LINES OR SEWER LINES, THEN THEY, THEY'RE OUT THERE MORE OFTEN THAN THAT, UH, PERFORMING THEIR INSPECTIONS. UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS WHAT HOMEOWNER RECOURSE AND PROTECTIONS EXIST WITH THIS PROJECT. SO THE CONTRACTOR IS REQUIRED TO CARRY AN INSURANCE POLICY. PRESIDENTS, YOU ALL CAN REACH OUT TO THE CITY AT ANY TIME WHEN WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. ULTIMATELY, ANY KIND OF ISSUES THAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING WILL BE RESOLVED BETWEEN YOU AND THE CONTRACTOR DIRECTLY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE ANTICIPATED COMPLETION DATE, PHASE ONE IS ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE THIS YEAR IN THE FALL AROUND SEPTEMBER OCTOBER TIMEFRAME. AND THAT IS JUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S THE STORM WATER, THAT'S THE STREETS, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE UTILITIES, WATER AND SEWER. THERE IS NOT A DATE FOR, UM, THE CURRENT TIMELINE FOR PHASE TWO INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE HOME CONSTRUCTIONS AND IT ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE, INCLUDE ANY OF THE AMENITIES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, DEVELOPED WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. AND THEN, UM, THE LAST QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE RETAINING WALLS? THERE IS A RET, UH, WALL EASEMENT, A WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT THAT IS INCLUDED IN BOTH THE PLAT AS WELL AS THE PD. AND THAT ANY WALLS THAT ARE CONTAINED WITHIN A WALL EASEMENT OR WALL MAINTENANCE EASEMENT ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HO. AND THAT IS, UM, ANY WALLS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT EASEMENT THEN ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS THE END OF THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE TO SHARE. I LITERALLY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE QUESTIONS AND TRIED TO COMPILE [00:30:01] IT INTO SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS BITE-SIZED . I WANNA SAY IT LIKE THAT. BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IT WAS NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO COVER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE COMING IN. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT? AM I GETTING AHEAD OF YOU SIR? I WOULD. THAT YOU WOULD LIKE YOU BE TO GO AND SIT BUT YOU WON'T . OKAY. WHAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE QUESTIONED UNCERTAINTY IN ORDER THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHO IT IS GETS THE NEXT QUESTION. HOW CAN A PERSON THAT HAS THE NEXT QUESTION PERFECT, YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ANSWERING THAT. I'LL GIVE IT MY BEST ON. VERY GOOD. ALL. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA DO A MOBILE MARKET CAREER. RAISE YOUR HAND AT THIS POINT TAKING YOU OUT QUESTION AND THEN WE WILL CALL ON YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE A QUESTION HERE. ALRIGHT. HI ON SHERRY LANE AND IT'S A SWALE, UH, DIRECTLY BEHIND US. UH, RIGHT ALONG THE 15 FOOT EASEMENT. UH, IT IS STEEP. UH, THE LITTLE BIT OF RAIN THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU CAN ALREADY SEE EROSION COMING DOWN. IT'S, I'M SURE YOUR 4 0 1 DOES NOT WORK WITH THAT CUTOFF THERE BECAUSE IT IS STEEP TO GO DOWN TO THE SWALE. UH, THEY'VE THROWN GRASS AND SPREAD GRASS SEED ON THE OTHER SIDE. UH, ON THE HOMEOWNER'S SIDE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY GRASS OR ANYTHING THERE AT ALL. SO LOOK DOWN INTO THE SWALE. JUST FROM THE SMALL AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE'VE HAD, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF EROSION. THE SWALE, YOU CAN SEE MUD BUILDING UP DOWN THERE AND THEY HAVE CHECK DAMS. UH, PROBABLY 10 OR 12 OF 'EM ALONG THERE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHECK DAMS, THE SOIL AND THE MUD IS STARTING TO RISE UP ON 'EM. THERE'S A LOT OF DEBRIS ALREADY COLLECTING IN THE CHECK DAMS. UH, WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE IS GONNA BE DONE FOR THAT? WHO'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? AND ARE THOSE CHECK DAMS REALLY GONNA STAY THERE? THE CHECK DAMS WILL NOT BE THERE PERMANENTLY. THEY'RE TEMPORARY AND IF THERE'S SOIL AND UH, DEBRIS THAT IS THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, THE CONTRACTOR WILL GET OUT THERE A SAT AND GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF. WE HAVE ALREADY PUT HIM ON THE MISS VALVE. OKAY. AND THE, UH, THAT ALL LEADS DOWN INTO THE HUGE CONTENTION POND THERE AND THE BOTTOM OF THE POND, THERE'S A SMALL PIPE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE WATER TO SLOWLY GO OUT IF THAT PIPE GETS PLUGGED UP. IT'S JUST ONE SMALL PIPE MEANS ALREADY AWARE OF THAT ONE AS WELL. THERE ARE SOME MAINTENANCE, AS I SAID, THEY NEED SOME TLC, THE EROSION PROTECTION THAT'S OUT THERE AND THE CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN PUT ON JUST, HE'S ALREADY WORKING ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS. OKAY. AND THE, UH, THE SIDE OF THE, UH, SWALE THAT WE'RE SO STEEP, ARE THEY GONNA JUST THROW GRASS ON THAT TOO AND HOPE THAT IT STICKS OR ARE THEY GONNA PUT SOME KIND OF A WALL THERE? SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO YOUR SPECIFIC LOCATION 'CAUSE I'M, I'M TRYING TO PICTURE IT. YEAH. BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS CHECK ON IT OKAY. AND GET BACK WITH YOU. OKAY. IT'S JUST BEFORE THE DETENTION DAM MENT BASIN. PARDON? THE MENT BASIN. WE'RE TALKING THE MUD PITS. RIGHT. TALKING BEHIND, UH, SHERRY LANE 2137 IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S GOT A REALLY SW STEEP SLOPE ON SOIL. OKAY. GOING UP. AND HE'S PLANTED A OLD ROLL OF TREES THERE AND WHILE IT'S STILL 15 BI CAN SEE THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT BEING LESS AND LESS AS FOR SURE AS MOTION CONTINUES. SO YEAH, IF YOU COULD CHECK. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. AND WE'LL TAKE NOTES ON THAT TO ASSURE THAT 2137 SHERRY LANE. YES. YES SIR. YEAH, I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION. 'CAUSE YOU SHOWED A PICTURE OF THE HILL BEHIND THE HOUSE. UM, YOU WANT ME TO, OH, 30 16. SAY IT AGAIN. I'M 30 16. UM, SO MY CONCERN IS THIS HAPPENED, THIS, THIS, IT JUST STARTING TO BUILD UP AND AS OF YESTERDAY WE FINALLY GOT THE SECOND CELL FENCE, WHICH I THINK WAS A LITTLE TOO LATE. UM, ON THAT THAT YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT ONLY YESTERDAY WHEN THE BULLDOZERS OUT THERE STARTING TO, TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, MY CONCERN IS JUST WITH ALL OF THE, THE MUD THAT'S BUILDING UP THE DEBRIS BEHIND IT. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S CREATING A, LIKE A, IT IT WAS ALREADY A BLOW LINE FLOODPLAIN. AND I WANT TO KNOW VERY SPECIFICALLY HOW CAN TALK ALL ABOUT THESE SLOPES. WHAT I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT IS MUD IS JUST STARTING TO BUILD UP AND THIS WAS A NATURAL DRAINAGE AREA THAT WOULD DRAIN INTO THE EXISTING EASTERN HILLS DRAINAGE AREAS. THOSE [00:35:01] CHANNELS WERE BUILT WITH CONCRETE. I WANT TO KNOW IF THE SWELL IS GOING TO BE BUILT WITH A CONCRETE TO MORE EFFECTIVELY CHANNEL THE WATER AWAY FROM THE HOMES DOWN INTO THE DRAINAGE THAT'S ALREADY IN THESE TWO FIELDS. ONCE IT IS COMPLETE, THERE WILL BE A PILOT CHANNEL AT THE BOTTOM OF THOSE SEDIMENT BASINS. UM, WE ARE WAITING ON FINAL DESIGN FOR PHASE TWO TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT, UM, SPECIFICALLY. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A PLAN TO HAVE A PILOT CHANNEL AT THE BOTTOM OF WHEREVER THAT, UM, THAT DRAINAGE ULTIMATELY ENDS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN MATERIALS WISE? I'M JUST NOT A MANAGER HERE. SO IS THAT CONCRETE IS IS IT JUST EARTH? ANY ROUNDS CONCRETE, A PORTION OF IT WILL BE CONCRETE UPSTREAM. UM, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD BE EARTH AND SOIL, BUT THE FURTHER DOWNSTREAM YOU BOTTOM HILL, THAT'S GONNA BE CONCRETE. THAT THAT SHOULD BE CONCRETE. YES. OKAY. I ACTUALLY SIT WITH BOB FLOW LINE SLOW TRICKLE UP THERE WATER TOO. UM, THE BLACK POSSIBILITY SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE, IS THAT GOING ANYWHERE? 'CAUSE IT'S VERY MISLEADING. UM, THE, MY POSSIBILITY SIGN AT THE ENTRANCE THAT I'M SURE WE COULD HAVE THAT REMOVED. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE ANY ISSUE. BUT THAT'S UM, AND THEN IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE GDC ABOUT SIGHT LINES RELATIVE TO, I MEAN, HAVING NEW HOMES BUILT 25 FEET ABOVE YOUR HOME, LOOKING INTO YOUR BACKYARD? NO, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE, I REMEMBER IN A COUNCIL MEETING THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW INSTRUCTION IN THE URBAN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE SIGHT LINE RESTRICTIONS. IS THAT ONLY IN THOSE AREAS? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT ACCORDING TO THE GDC THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO THIS KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE ARE STILL 75 FEET BACK BEFORE THE LOT LINE STARTS AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE. SO IF YOU'RE AT THE PROPERTY LINE, THERE'S A 75 FOOT DISTANCE BEFORE THE PROPERTY LAUNCH OVER GREAT SITE LINE TO THEIR LEFT YARDS. YES. THE ONE YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT, IS IT 6 35, THE REZONING THAT TOOK PLACE DOWN SOUTH? I BELIEVE SO. YEAH. SO THAT'S A TOTALLY SEPARATE, THAT WAS A, A SEPARATE COMPONENT OF THAT ONE RELATED TO MULTIFAMILY AND A SIGHT LINE. SO THAT ONLY APPLIES TO THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE THAT IT'S NOT A STANDING CHEAPEST ITEM. IT'S SO IF I BOUGHT A LOT IN A GARDEN, I COULD BUILD IT UP AND PUT A HOUSE ON TOP OF IT. NO. PRETTY GENERAL QUESTION THAT ANSWER WHAT THEORETICALLY, I MEAN IF I, I BUILD THE RETAINING WALLS AND GET ALL THAT APPROVED BY ENGINEERING, I CAN BUILD MY HOUSE UP 25 FEET HIGHER THAN THE SURROUNDING HOMES. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME MAKING THE DRAINAGE WORK JUST AS A RANDOM HOUSE. BUT I GUESS THEORETICALLY THERE WOULD NOT BE ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THAT OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THERE MAY BE SE UM, COVENANTS, CODES AND RESTRICTIONS. THERE MAY BE DEED RESTRICTIONS. I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. YOU GOOD? ALRIGHT. I NEVER ONE, TWO THINGS. UM, I'VE, I'VE BEEN TRAVELING AND I'VE SEEN MIXED STUFF ON THE LINES. I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS ACCURATE OR, OR WASN'T. UM, MAKE SURE SHE CAN HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY, THE LAST I HEARD, UH, JUST WANTED MAKE SURE IT WAS SAID WE STILL ONLY HAVE ONE ENTRANCE THAT'S COMING OUT FROM THE YEAH, THAT'S THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE. SO WITH THAT TRAFFIC BOOM THAT'S ANTICIPATED, DO THE HOMEOWNERS ON COUNTRY CLUB HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT? A DOMAIN YOU GET THE THE LANES ULTIMATELY NEED TO BE WIRED? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF AT THIS TIME. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND HONESTLY IT PREDATES ME, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS PERFORMED BACK IN 2018. UM, AND THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY DID MAKE THE DECISION WHEN THEY WIDENED THE ENTRANCE TO THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION AND ALLOWED TWO, UH, TWO WAYS, LIKE AN IN AND OUT AND THERE'S A MEDIAN BETWEEN THE TWO, THAT THAT WAS SUFFICIENT FOR BOTH THE TRAFFIC AS WELL AS FIRE. THAT'S, THAT'S MY ANSWER. OKAY. I MS SEAT YOUR HANDS AGAIN PLEASE. HANNAH STATEMENT. OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH MS. COLE. COME BACK HERE. I PROMISE IT'S A QUICK ONE. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF IT'S UH, IF YOU COULD JUST MANDATE THAT THEY HAVE AN HOA 'CAUSE LIKE I'M A THIRD, I'M A SERVICE THAT OWN MY HOUSE ALONG A SPILLWAY AND THEN I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE. THERE'S [00:40:01] ALL RESPONSIBILITY. SO I DON'T THINK KNOW NEW NEIGHBORHOODS COULD BE COMPELLED TO CREATE AN HOA SO THEY COULD MAINTAIN THAT HALL AS PART OF A PD. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT AN HLAV ESTABLISHED? YES. SURE. UH, MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO THE ELEVATED, THE FIVE LOTS. YES. WHEN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE ENGINEER ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UH, AT WHAT POINT, AND I HEARD YOU MENTION THAT YOU, YOU KNEW IT WAS GONNA PROBABLY BE A PROBLEM AREA BECAUSE OF THE 25 FOOT I SAW THE ELEVATION DRAWINGS. AT WHAT POINT DID Y'ALL, DID YOU EVER TRY TO REMOVE THOSE FIVE BLOCKS THEREFORE YOU COULD BE REGRADED TO WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE IN YOUR FACE TO THE HOMEOWNERS ALONG THAT WALL? WHAT DIALOGUE DID Y'ALL HAVE WITH THE ENGINEERS ON THAT PARTICULAR FIVE BLOCKS? SO I'M GONNA REMIND YOU AND COULD IT BE BASICALLY RERATED BEFORE THE WALL IS BUILT? TAKE THOSE LOTS OFF WHERE IT'S LOWERED SUBSTANTIALLY. WHERE'S NOT IN YOUR FACE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ENGINEERS OR THE ENGINEERING FROM THE CITY ALSO LOOKS TO PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS. WHAT PROTECTION DOES THOSE FIVE HOMEOWNERS HAVE? UH, BASED ON, UH, THE DRAWINGS THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND WHAT Y'ALL CAN APPROVE. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY YOU HAVE TO APPROVE WHAT IS PRESENTED, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR CONVERSATION. WE HAVE VERY LITTLE, UM, CONTROLLING OVER THAT WE ARE GOVERNED BY OUR, UM, DEVELOPMENT CODE, DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE GDCA TEXT MANUAL TEXT STANDARDS MANUAL OR TSM AS THOUGH AS THE LAND UP WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE OR NOT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD'VE TO CHECK, BUT EVEN IF WE MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT. OKAY. AND THE ODDS ARE THAT IF WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THEM TO REMOVE FIVE LOTS ON ONE LOT, EVEN FROM AN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT HAPPENING ARE SLIM TO ABSOLUTE ZERO. SO BASICALLY Y'ALL DONE YOUR PART, THE ENGINEERING OR THE COMPANY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE PUTTING IN THEIR, IN THOSE HOMES, STATES THAT WALL THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE? YES SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU. WE ARE HAVING THEM TO COME IN THOUGH AND GET THAT STABILIZED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AS WE ARE DOING THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. HERE. I I LEFT YOU AROUND THE CORNER. THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ME SPECIFICALLY OTHER THAN WHAT MIGHT AFFECT ON GUIDANCE. UH, BUT I WALKED A DOG EVERY DAY DOWN WALKING AND I SAW THAT WALL BEING BUILT AND I THOUGHT WELL SURE. THEY'RE JUST PUSHING DIRT UP THERE UNTIL THEY GET READY AND ALL THAT'S GONNA COME DOWN. I SAW I SAY ALL OF YOUR CAREFULLY WORDED STATEMENTS THAT SAY AND WHAT'S APPROVED ON THIS DATE AND ALL THIS. MY, MY QUESTION IS MORE 50,000 FOOT. WHO IN THE HECK WAS LOOKING OUT FOR US WHEN ALL THESE DECISIONS WERE MADE? WE CAN'T LIVE DOWN IN CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR IN YOUR OFFICE AND, AND FILL THE WATCH OUT. WE JUST ASSUME THAT SOMEBODY WOULDN'T DO SOMETHING THIS STUPID. AND WHO WAS WATCHING OUT THE WATCH DOWN THERE? UH, IT JUST SEEMS TO BE CRAZY THAT SOMEBODY CAN COME IN AND BUILD THAT MOUNTAIN BEHIND THESE HOMES AND NOBODY EITHER ELECTED OR HIRED AT CITY HALL CAN SAY YOU CAN'T DO THAT. LOOK, THESE, THESE PEOPLE HAVE THIS HOUSE AND YOU'RE GOING, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT A MUD HILL AND THAT'S YOU. YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT. INSTEAD OF SAYING WHATEVER THEY GO SAID, THEY CANCEL, WE CAN'T STOP THEM. I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. TOTALLY. I THINK THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS. UM, AND BOX YOU DID LOOK WHO WAS LOOKING OUT FOR US WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS TAKING PLACE, WHEN YOU SAW THIS, DID YOU THINK THAT WON'T BE A PROBLEM? THOSE PEOPLE WON'T MIND HAVING 25 FOOT MUD WALL OUT THERE FISHING. YOU THINK THAT? SO I AM NOT TRYING TO LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THE TERM, THE EXACT TERM WE USED WITHOUT MY CAREFULLY WORDED STATEMENTS. THAT IS NOT MY INTENT. SO LET ME BE CLEAR. I AM CUED TO A CERTAIN POINT ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO. I DO NOT HAVE THE OPTION OF SAYING I DON'T LIKE THIS. I WOULD, I DON'T, [00:45:01] I CAN'T APPROVE IT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE. THAT IS NOT AN OPTION FOR US. THE ONLY OPTION AND WE HAVE IS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT MEETS THE GDC, THAT IT MEETS THE TSM, THAT IT, THAT IT IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF SAVINGS. YOU CANNOT PUT THOSE PROPERTIES OR YOU CANNOT DELINEATE THOSE LOTS OR YOU CANNOT BUILD THAT LAW. AS LONG AS IT MEETS OUR REQUIREMENTS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS AN OPTION. AND I'M SO SORRY. WELL, I I BUT IT IS WHERE WE ARE. I'M, I'M, I MY POINT WAS I'M SURE THAT YOU'VE FOLLOWED ALL RULERS, BUT I'M, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I'M ABOVE THAT. I'M AT THE 50 TO THOUSAND. WILL YOU TELL ME IN MY CITY THERE'S NO HANDSHAKE IN MY CITY. A PERSON, A A A MULTI HOMES CAN COME IN AND BUILD A 25 FOOT MOUNTAIN BEHIND MY HOME DID MEANS SIR JUDY, DC OR TFM AT THE PD? YES SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. WHAT IF THEY GOT AHEAD OF THEMSELVES AND VIOLATED THE 4 0 1 AND YOU'RE HAVING, HAVING THEM? NO, NO, BECAUSE THIS RELATED. OKAY, YOU SPOKEN ME ONCE. I'M GONNA GET BACK TO YOU. I THERE'S ANYBODY FINISH HERE. OKAY. OKAY. BUT ALRIGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU HERE. I THINK MARK, WHO HAS NOT SPOKEN ALREADY? GO AHEAD SIR. I'M SORRY. UH, MS. SULLIVAN, YOU TALK ABOUT THE CODE AS IT IS, AS I ALLUDED TO, AND IF COMMUNICATION WITH SOME OF YOU, THIS IS THE TIME CODE AND FIX WHAT WE DID, WE HAVE TO DO THAT. I'M SORRY. WE KEEP SOMETHING LIKE THIS FROM EVER HAPPEN TO A HOME. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS, I CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE BURNING TREMENDOUSLY FROM THIS. THE ADULT AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT SINCE 2014. SO YES SIR. WE'VE LEARNED A LOT. THINK I PART THAT YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ENGINEER. WERE OUT THERE EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID, RIGHT? THIS PILE OF DIRT WAS DONE AHEAD OF PHASE TWO MM-HMM . SO IT, IT WOULD REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE UNTIL LATER PERHAPS. CORRECT. NOT LATER. I'LL TAKE THAT. SO WHY DIDN'T OUR FIELD ENGINEER SAY, HEY, WHY AM HE DOING THIS? SO TWO THINGS. ONE'S AGAIN, AND I'M, I'M GOING BACK TO THIS IS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND OUR FIELD ENGINEERS ARE OUT THERE TO INSPECT OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY INSPECT OUR STREETS, OUR PAVEMENT, OUR WATER UTILITIES, OUR SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM AND OUR SMALL, THAT IS THEIR FOCUS WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE. WOULD THEY HAVE CAUGHT THIS AT A CERTAIN POINT LATER IN THE PROCESS? THEY WOULD'VE CAUGHT THIS BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT, I BELIEVE IT'S SOME KIND OF SURVEY TO INDICATE THAT WHAT'S LIKE, WHAT IS THE OVERALL LOCK RATING? THEY HAVE TO DO THAT. SO THIS WOULD'VE COME OUT AT SOME POINT REGARDLESS. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS ALSO WOULD'VE COME OUT IN PHASE TWO REGARDLESS IF IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. IT JUST HAPPENED SOONER. SO THE FACT THAT FIELD ENGINEERING DID NOT CATCH IT OR CATCH IT PER SE, WE DO HAVE CONTROLS IN PLACE THAT IT WOULD'VE COME OUT. UM, I WOULD SAY VERY SOON IN THIS PROCESS. IS THERE, IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR THE CITIZENS, MR. MOORE TO SIT DOWN AND POOL AND SAY WE SHOULD, WE CAN DESIGN THIS. WELL KNOW ONE WIFE AT THIS POINT AT THIS POINT LOST JENISON APPROVED IT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO SAY TO US THROUGHOUT THIS 75 FOOT BUFFER THAT SET FOR HOMES TO HAVE. AS YOU RECALL, WE TALKING ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE. AT ONE TIME WE WERE REALLY UPSET THAT WE, IT IS IN KOREAN SPACE, BUT THAT 75 UH, PERCENT TOUGHER IS CREATES A HOUSE. CAN THE FOOTBALL, BUT LET ME SAY THIS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. LET ME JUST SAY THIS. AS A NEO FIGHT, AS A PERSON WHO KNOWS SIR, LOOK US AS IT RELATES TO UH, ENGINEERING, WE DEPEND ON OURSELF TO EXPRESS AND TO TELL US WHAT WERE TWO MAIN CORPORATE. AND THEN HE BEGAN TO TALK TO US ABOUT ELEVATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. . BUT THEY'RE PART OF THE GDC, THEY ARE APPROVED BY THE GDC AND IF THEY COME WITHIN THE RAIL, WHAT THE GDC CALLED FOR, AS [00:50:01] YOU JUST STATED, WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF SAYING YES AND NO. AND THAT'S NOT JUST US. THE STATE ACTUALLY UN IMPOSES A LOT OF THIS ON US UNTIL TO CALL, CALL CITY COUNCIL PERSON OR OCCUPATION. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT ARE LAW THAT YOU CAN'T GO AGAINST. THIS IS THE LAW. THIS IS WHAT STATE AND WHEN YOU LET IT BE, YOU LET IT BE TO DO ABIDE BY THE LAW. EVERYTHING THAT SHE'S BEEN SAYING IS ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT, IS ACCORDING TO THE LAW. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, THAT'S REALLY NEAR HERE TONIGHT. WHEN I DROVE BY LOVE VIEW AND SAW THAT MOUNTAIN THERE, IT NEVER DAWNED ON ME WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE CONTRACT AND LOOKING AT THE UH, THE DESIGN. IT NEVER DAWNED ME THAT WAS GONNA BE THAT I WOULD LIKE SO FIGURED THEY'RE JUST PUTTING THAT DIRT WITH RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO MOVE IT AROUND LATER. BUT THEN I REMEMBER SOMETHING, I REMEMBER THAT MY POSSIBILITIES IF TRY GET FIGHTING FOR THIS IN MANY OCCASION AND THEY FAIL. AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THEY WERE FAILING WAS THEY BEGAN THEMSELVES TO SEE THAT THEIR OWN DESIGN IN SOMETHING, THE TOLOGY OF THAT LANDSCAPE IS A GOLF COURSE. AND IT STARTS IN ONE AREA AND IT GOES DOWN TO ANOTHER AREA. MY POSSIBILITY, DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO NEEDED ASSISTANCE AND COULDN'T BE DEALING WITH THAT LANDSCAPE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ALSO ALONG A LEVEL PLANE FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE. AND BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THEIR FUNDING, THEY SOLD IT TO SOMEONE WHO SAW THE NEED WHO SORE OF IT. THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE MADE, WHEN I SAW THAT THERE, THAT'S WHEN , WE GOT GO FOR CLARIFICATION. REACH OUT TO GET MY UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON HERE. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY KNEW DOING THE , IT'S IT ENGINEERING. BUT, BUT THE KEY HERE IS IN ENGINEER. WHAT SHE'S SAYING TO YOU IS ENGINEERING IS CALLING TO EVERY ROOM, EVERY GUIDELINE, EVERY LAW THAT WE HAVE APPROVED HIM ON JESUS AND ALL THAT SHE CAN DO TONIGHT. NOW NO MATTER WHAT QUESTION YOU ASK HER, ALL SHE CAN DO TONIGHT IS GIVE HIM A FACTS. SHE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. SHE CAN GIVE THE FACTS AND THEN YOU CAN TELL ME AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO. AND HOW I SAY BACK TO YOU, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO OR WORK. OKAY, QUESTION. ALRIGHT, NOW ANYONE HAS NOT ASKED A QUESTION ALREADY? YOU HAVE NOT ASKED THE QUESTION ALREADY. OKAY. SO I I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS ACTUALLY SAW WHO SOLD THIS LAND TO ING. DID THE CITY OWN IT OR DID MY POSSIBILITIES OWN IT? THE CITY HAS NEVER OWNED THE ONE . FIRST THE OWNED BY PRIVATE, UH, I THINK THEY OWNED THE GOLF COURSE. THEY SOLD IT, I THINK IT WAS TIM WAS THE FIRST MAYOR. HENRY MILLER. HENRY MILLER. I MEAN THEY'VE ALREADY FOUGHT HIM PRETTY MUCH. THEY CAN FIRST MILLER AND I WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT HISTORY ALL OVER AGAIN TONIGHT THAT SO MANY TIMES I REALLY DON'T WANT GO THROUGH THAT. BUT HENRY MILLER ON THE FIRST SO MY, CAN I MY POSSIBILITIES SOLELY TO SURE. OR LIKE WHEN, WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ONE ENTRANCE IN AND OUT. UM, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE DONE ANY OF THE MATH ABOUT THAT, BUT IT IS LIKE WITH THESE 300 HOMES, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL THERE MAY BE TWO CARS. THERE COULD BE FOUR CARS OR MORE. A LOT OF THE YOUNG HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND YOU MAY HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN LIVING MULTI-GENERATIONALLY AND YOU COULD BE DEALING WITH TRAFFIC OF THREE AND FOUR CARS PER HOME, POSSIBLY BEING ON A DAILY BASIS. AND THEN THESE ROADS ARE NOT ABLE TO BE WIDENED THAT ARE ANYWHERE NEAR THIS PLACE. SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF A PLAN OR A RESTRICTION OR SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE BESIDES WHAT YOU'VE GOT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. THERE'S UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS FOR THE SUBDIVISION. OKAY, NOW THERE IS A PLAN, PLEASE. THAT PLAN IS AS A DEVELOPMENT GROW, WE WILL ALWAYS OBSERVE THE TRAFFIC COUNT THERE. IF IT CALLS FOR DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE WAY OF YOU EXPANDING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. HE'S AT THAT [00:55:01] POINT WE'LL BRING IT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TALK ABOUT IT. BUT AS IT STANDS PRESENTLY A TRAFFIC ACCOUNT WAS CONDUCTED BY DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT. ALL WERE INVOLVED WITH THIS ALSO, THE COMMUNITY WAS INVOLVED WITH IT. IT WAS APPROVED AT THIS POINT IT IS APPROVED. UM, THAT WAS IN 2018 WHEN MY POSSIBILITIES OWNED IT IN A HUNDRED OF THOSE HOMES WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE CARS. MM-HMM . THAT'S RIGHT. . YEAH. SO YOU, YOU'RE BASING YOUR ANSWER ON SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL WHAT IS NO LONGER. SO YES AND NO. THAT ORIGINAL TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE. UH, BASED ON THAT, HOWEVER, WE DID GO AND REVIEW THAT TRAFFIC STUDY AND THERE WAS NO CAPACITY THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL HOMES IN 50 CARILLO. UM, FOR EACH PROPERTY THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THERE, I CAN CERTAINLY HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY. AGAIN, I DON'T FEEL THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ANY CHANGES TO IT, BUT I WILL CERTAINLY COMMIT TO HAVING THEM TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND SEE IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, ANY, IF IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE MISSED, WE CAN SAY THAT. YES, THAT WOULD, I MEAN I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING PRETTY SURE WE DID THAT WHEN UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS MAYBE LAST YEAR, BUT I'LL CHECK WHEN OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION FROM FIRST TIME. NEXT. FIRST TIME. SO I THINK ALL , SO THIS PROJECT STUDY THAT YOU ARE MENTIONED WHILE THERE PUBLICLY , IF SO, WHERE? I'LL SEND IT OUT TO ANYONE WHO ASKED FOR IT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. YES. UM, AFTER A, AFTER A PRESENTATION COUNSEL I DO BELIEVE IT WAS AVAILABLE, BUT UM, I CAN CERTAINLY TAKE YOUR NAME AND CONTACT INFORMATION AND UM, SHARE IF YOU HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THAT WHATSOEVER. OKAY. YEAH. SO , THE OTHER THING IS PD THAT YOU ARE OFFERING TO DAMAGE. SAY IT AGAIN. THE PD THAT YOU'RE PUTTING TO IN TERMS OF YOUR HANDS UP FROM THE RULES THAT YOU ARE OFFERING TO THE GARDEN PD. THE OTHER CITIES ALSO HAVE SHOWN THE THE OTHERS, I'M SORRY. SO THE PD, THE YES. REMOVE THAT . YES. AND THE GAR GAR . YES. SO GARLAND MADE CERTAIN RULES. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BUILDING UP A 25 FEET WALL WAS NEVER ED IN THE PD. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH THE OTHER PLAN THAT OTHER PDS IN THE WHOLE STATE OF, OR IN THE WHOLE UNITED, HOW DO WE COMPARE THAT AGAINST, HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THESE RULES? NOW WE ARE LYING BACK TO THE AND SAY OUR ANSWER. THE PD WOULD HAVE STATED THAT, UM, ANY, IT WOULD'VE TALKED ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE WALLS. IT, THE PD WOULD, IT WAS PUT IN PLACE, WOULD NOT HAVE ADDRESSED WALL HEIGHT AT ALL. IT WOULD NOT HAVE DONE THEM AND IT DOES NOT DO THAT. SO THERE'S NOT THAT THE PD SAYS THAT THE WALLS CAN BE 25 OR 50 OR TWO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE WALLS. THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PV AND THAT YOU CAN ENFORCE THE . NOW THEY, THE COMMUNITY DECIDE THEY, THEY CAN, THEY DON'T WANT THEM JOIN. IS THAT IT ALSO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AT THAT TIME. WHAT IS THAT? IS IT GOING BE PART OF THE CCP REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO HAVE AN HO ? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONCE A PD IS PUT IN PLACE AND AN HOA IS PART OF THAT PD REQUIREMENT, THAT IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THAT UM, SUBDIVISION COMPLY WITH THAT PD INDEFINITELY IS MY UNDERSTANDING. OKAY. GETTING READY TO GO A SECOND ROUND. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION. 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. UH, SO THE GDC CAN BE AMENDED TO REFLECT SOMETHING LIKE THIS SIGHTLINES. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IS CORRECT. IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN EXPECT? THAT WOULD DEPEND ON COUNCIL. YOU ARE OUR COUNCIL. WE GONNA MAKE A RIGHT FOR THAT. YES. AND AND AND YOU REMEMBER THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT COUNCIL IS, UH, JUST, JUST LEARNING HOW TO COUNT. I CAN COUNT TO FIVE ON ANY DAY , BUT IF YOU CAN'T COUNT TO FIVE IT'S JUST A PIPE. SO THE QUESTION IS YES INDEED. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT CHANGES [01:00:01] OUR GDC TO MAKE IT MUCH MORE COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT OUR COMMUNITY IS IN NEED OF. SO ARE YOU COMMITTING TO BRINGING THAT COUNSEL AT THIS POINT? WHAT I'M COMMITTING TO IS I'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT. SURE. WELL YOU CAN'T BE, CAN'T BE RETRO. I'M NUMBER TWO. I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU. YES. AND ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. UH, GOING BACK TO THE WALL, UH, YOU MENTIONED MAINTENANCE. IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT WALL GONNA BE ON UH, THE CITY OR WILL BE ON THE HOMEOWNER OR THE HOA IF IT FALLS OR TILTS? Y'ALL KNOW AND I DO TOO. BUT THE UH, GROUND IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA, THERE'S MOVEMENT PROBABLY BETWEEN EIGHT AND 14 INCHES. AM I RIGHT? I AM, I AM RIGHT. I KNOW I JUST, YES. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, SO THEY BROUGHT IN SELECT FIELD FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE. MM-HMM. SO WHEN I SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO SHIFT BETWEEN 12 AND 14, I CAN'T SAY THAT. NOT WITH CERTAIN, OKAY. I ALSO CANNOT SAY THAT. SO YOU'LL KNOW. I I I DO SCHOOLS FOR GROWING AND ADMINISTRATIVE. WE GET A LOT OF THE TESTING, WHICH WE HAVE TO UM, GOING BACK TO MY QUESTION. SO WHO'S GOING TO, WHEN THAT WALL TILTS AND IT WILL, I'LL LIVE ACROSS THE STREET AND I HAVE THE GULLY, THE DRAINAGE COMING THROUGH AND THEY PUT A, A SMALL, THREE FOOT, FOUR FOOT CONCRETE. AND NOW IT'S TILTED. ANYBODY THAT BUILT A BRICK FENCE, IT FELL IN. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THE OWNER OF THAT LOT GONNA REPLACE OR REPAIR THAT UH, UH, ROB FENCE THAT'S GONNA BE BUILT AND IT WILL BREAK, IT WILL CRACK AS YOU WILL KNOW. SO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR THE REPLACING IT? ANY WALL THAT EXPANDS MORE THAN ONE PROPERTY? ONE LOT. YEAH. IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOA. OKAY. AND ANY, SO THE HOA PICKS UP THAT BILL, THE HOA WILL PICK UP THAT BILL. ANY WALL THAT IT EXPANDS MORE THAN ONE LOT IS LOCATED IN A WALL MAINTENANCE I GOT. OKAY. YES. AND THE QUESTION FOR YOU, YES SIR. ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THE 25 FOOT DIRT WALL THAT'S BUILT ON THOSE FIVE BLOCKS? WELL, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT IF I LOOKED AT IT. SO YOU'RE IN FAVOR. WE'VE GOT PICTURES OF EVERYBODY'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING, YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON THOSE FIVE PROBLEM. THAT'S FINE. PROPERTIES IF, IF LET, IF I HAD THAT TO LOOK AT TONIGHT, I TRULY FEEL THAT WE NEEDED TO CLARIFY. WE NEEDED TO GIVE AN UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT THERE, WHAT CAN YOU DO? WELL, ANOTHER QUESTION. WHAT CAN YOU DO TO GIVE THOSE HOMEOWNERS ALONG THAT BACK WALL SOME HELP SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES? AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO. SO NOTHING AT, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING I, I NEED TO TELL THE NEIGHBORS THAT I'M REPRESENTING. MY NAME IS JULIE. UT AND I HAVE CONTACTED YOU YES. SEVERAL TIMES AND I ALWAYS RESPONDED BACK. AND YOU HAVE, YOU'VE BEEN WONDERFUL ABOUT THAT AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY AGAINST THAT SLOPE THAT WE DO NOT THINK IS GRADED PROPERLY. WE ACTUALLY CLIMBED UP IT, WALKED IT, TOOK PICTURES, HOLD UP. AND I REALLY AM REPRESENTING THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA LOOK AT THIS AND ME OUT MY KITCHEN WINDOW FOR THE REST OF THE TIME WE LIVE HERE. AND I'VE GOTTA GO BACK AND TELL JUDY CAMPBELL, WHO'S THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR FOR GISD AND REBA CHUMLEY AND JANE SEYMOUR AND THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE. THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA HAVE TO TELL HER WHEN SHE GETS BACK FROM HER PLAYOFF DAY TONIGHT. YES. THAT IS WHAT I'VE GOT TO TELL HER. YES MA'AM. THAT IS TRAGIC. YES IT IS. NOW AGAIN, AS I THINK SHE ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN, THE ONLY REASON THAT I CAN SAY THAT IS I DO KNOW AT THIS POINT WHAT THE GDC CALLS YOU. SHE'S EXPLAINED THE 75 FOOT FOOT. SHE'S EXPLAINED AT THIS POINT THE ELEVATION THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR MONTH. SHE'S EXPLAINED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE GRASS PLACED ON IT. THERE'S GONNA COME A TIME IN THAT IN ENTIRE AREA THAT HILL IS GOING TO BE A VERY GREEN, SPACIOUS AREA. GRASSY GUR. MR. MOORE. I DON'T THINK IT TO CONSEQUENCE, I CAN'T IF I ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK, SIR, I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO. OKAY. ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS WHAT I SEE AND AT THIS IT APPEARS TO BE THAT EVERYTHING THAT THIS DEVELOPER IS DOING, BECAUSE SEE THE DEVELOPER HAS RIGHTS ALSO. THEY PURCHASED THIS LAND. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHAT THIS LAND, BUT THEY NEED TO DO. AND AS LONG AS THEY ARE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS, [01:05:01] AS LONG AS THEY'RE ABIDING BY THE LAW, THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO STOP. YES MA'AM. THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL HAVE TO DO. WHAT I CAN TELL THEM. YES SIR. I, I'M JUST GOING BACK 'CAUSE THERE'S THIS SLOPE, THERE'S THIS JAGGED CUDDLE BEHIND MY HOUSE. AND WHAT I HEARD VERY SPECIFICALLY, 'CAUSE I LIKE FACTS, IS ANYTHING UNDER TWO FEET DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY TYPE OF APPROVAL FOR RETAINING WALL. UM, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE I, AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THAT HILL AND I HAVE SMALL SHOULDER, THAT ENTIRE WALL WILL BE NO, NO, NO. YOU SAID LOW TWO AND A HALF FEET. THAT'S WHAT DOES NOT REQUIRE FREE APPROVAL ON THE RETAINABLE WALL. YES. AS MY COUNCILMAN, WILL YOU REQUIRE THAT THAT ENTIRE ABOVE VIEW, FIVE WALLS, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE WALL HEIGHT IS, THAT WE GET CLEAR APPROVAL THAT EVERYTHING'S SOUND AS IT CAN BE. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVEN'T DONE A GREAT KNOWLEDGE OF THE ENTIRE WALL SAFETY BEHIND. BUT YOU SAID IT WAS TWO FEET, BUT, AND THE CITY CODE WAS TWO AND A HALF FEET. SAFETY NUMBER ONE. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FACTS. I GET IT. LET ME EXPLAIN THAT. PLEASE LET ME FINISH BEFORE YOU START TALKING. FOR SURE. THANK YOU. MY APOLOGIES. SO I AM JUST ASKING, SINCE NO ONE REALLY CAN LOOK OUT FOR THE FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING HERE THAT LIVE AT THE OF THAT STREET. OKAY. I'M ASKING, I HAVE TWO SMALL CHILDREN. I HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME OVER ALL THE TIME. ALRIGHT. IF I DON'T FEEL THAT IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY SAFE, I WONDER IF THE COURT OF PUBLIC DEPENDENT WILL SIDE ME VERSUS THE CITY BECAUSE IT, MR. MOORE, IF IT WAS YOUR HOME AND SOMEBODY BUILT A 25 FOOT WALL BEHIND IT, I IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT UPSET. NOT A LITTLE BIT, NO, NO, JUST, I'M JUST GETTING QUIET. . SO WHAT I'M ASKING THE CITY TO DO AT THIS POINT, THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN AHEAD OF THEMSELVES ONE TIME. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT. THAT IS FACT. SLOW DOWN THE SPEED UP. WE WOULD LIKE BETTER COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE ENGINEERING DEGRADING BEHIND OUR HOMES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT SOIL EROSION. OKAY. AND WE, WE KNOW THAT UP UNTIL YESTERDAY, VER DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. I FIND IT VERY COINCIDENTAL THAT UP UNTIL YESTERDAY, THE SECOND SILT FENCE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS NOT EVEN UP. THE TIMING IS REAL SUSPECT AND I REALLY NEED SOME ACCOUNTABILITY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT RETAINING WALL WAS PROPERLY PUT UP ON THE TOP OF THAT HILL. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW THAT CITY ENGINEERS ARE COMING OUT BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER. I WANNA SEE THE STUDY. I THINK WE'RE GONNA ASSURE YOU THAT, UH, OUR SOUTH ARE GOING TO ASSURE THAT THAT WALL IS NO PROBLEM. WELL, YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THEY ALREADY GOT AHEAD OF THEMSELVES. NOW YOU ASKED ME. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT I'M JUST GIVE YOU THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. NUMBER THREE. THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, UH, THEY'VE STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON OUR SIDE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THEY'RE STARTING AS EARLY SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. IS THERE STILL THE NOISE ROLL? THEY CAN'T START UNTIL SEVEN. STANDARD TIMES ARE SEVEN O'CLOCK AND WE WILL GET WITH THE CONTRACT ROOM. OKAY. IT VERY EARLY. I MEAN, IT'S STILL DARK AND THEY GOT THE BRIGHT LIGHTS GO ON, THEY'RE DIGGING. SO THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT. AND IT'S TYPICALLY NOT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, BUT IN THE SUMMERTIME WE DO MAKE EXCEPTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO POURING CONCRETE, JUST SO YOU KNOW. YEAH. UM, BECAUSE IT'S SO HOT IN TEXAS THAT SOMETIMES THEY DO HAVE TO DO EARLY MORNING POURS, BUT WE ARE TYPICALLY, UM, VERY PROACTIVE IN NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORS WHEN WE DO THAT. SO WE WILL TALK WITH THE CONTRACTOR ABOUT MAKING CERTAIN THAT THEY DONE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK HOURS FOR SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . NEXT. YES SIR. THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK? SO THE TREE, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TREES ARE BEING MITIGATED, UM, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION. SO WILL THEY PUT THEM BACK IN THAT LOCATION? I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED OR APPROVED FOR THAT AREA. SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU. ANYTHING WE HAVE, YEAH. SO IN A TYPICAL SITUATION, PICKING WHERE THE, THE, THE TERRAIN IS LIKE IT IS IN ORDER TO MAKE ROADS AND LOTS AND DRAINAGE AND ALL THE THINGS, THAT'S WHERE ALL THIS DRAINING IS TAKING PLACE. AND SO IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THOSE TREES, IT'S [01:10:01] NOT REALISTIC ON THE PHONE, THAT KIND OF TOPOGRAPHY. SO THE, THE CODE ALLOWS THEM TO, UH, MITIGATE, THERE'S A FEE FOR TREE MITIGATIONS, $150 AN INCH. UM, AND SO WHAT THEY WILL DO IS, IS THEY PROVIDE A TREE SURVEY, AND I THINK I MAY HAVE EMAILED A COUPLE PEOPLE ABOUT THIS. THEY'LL PROVIDE IT, THEY'LL DO A TREE SURVEY, THE TREES THAT GET REMOVED, THOSE ARE, ARE, UH, PART OF THE PLAN AND THEN THEY GET CREDIT BACK TO THAT TOTAL NUMBER THAT THEY REMOVE FOR ANY TREES THAT THEY PUT BACK ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO YOU'LL, IN THIS ONE, I THINK THERE'S TWO, TYPICALLY TWO TREES PER LOT. AND THEN WHATEVER THEY CAN FIT IN, IN THE GREEN SPACE IN THE COMMON AREAS. AND I THINK THE BULK COVER IN PHASE TWO, WHICH HADN'T BEEN FULLY SUBMITTED YET. SO DOES EVERY INCH OF TREES GO BACK ON THERE? NO, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE 'CAUSE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY HEAVILY TREE. SO THEY WILL HAVE A MITIGATION FEE AND THEN THEY CAN BE CREDITED WHATEVER THEY CAN PUT BACK AND YOU ADD THE TWO TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT ENDS UP ACCOUNTING FOR ANY AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THAT ARE OKAY. AND THAT WHEN YOU SAY MITIGATION FEE AND THAT GOES TO THE CITY AND THEN THE CITY USES THAT TO REPLACE THE TRUTH? CORRECT. OKAY. CAN WE GET A COMMITMENT FROM YOU THAT THAT MONEY WILL BE USED IN AND YOU CAN DO THAT ON ALL THE DISTRICTS, BUT IF THAT MONEY, IF THOSE TREES ARE TAKEN OUT IN DISTRICT THREE, WILL YOU PUT 'EM BACK IN DISTRICT THREE? SO HERE'S THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS AND THE CODE'S NOT SET UP. I, ANOTHER COMPONENT IS, UM, THE OTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IS THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT, WHICH IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THEY, THEY PAY THEIR FEES, THEY PAY THEIR DEVELOPMENT FEES AND THEN FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VALUE TO BE ON THE GROUND, I BELIEVE IT'S 150 MILLION, THOSE FEES HAVE BEEN WAIVED. AND SO BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT FEE AND THE TREE MITIGATION FEE, THOSE HAVE BEEN WAIVED, UH, ON THAT PROJECT. AND SO WE HAVE A RUNNING ACCOUNT OF PRE MITIGATION FEES ALL OVER THE CITY. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR, FOR COUNCIL TO WAIVE THOSE FEES BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN ORDER TO MAKE UP A PROJECT VIABLE OR NOT. AND SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE THAT THAT ONE WAS APPROVED, BUT IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A YEAR. SO. OKAY. WHO'S NEXT? I HEAR HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, FIRST IS, IS ROAD MAINTENANCE OR LONG TERM MAINTENANCE STATE AND CONSIDERATION REQUIRE PLANNING DEVELOPMENTS PERIOD? DEPART PROCESS? I'M SORRY, SAY IT AGAIN. MAINTENANCE, LONG TERM ROAD MAINTENANCE OR ROAD MAINTENANCE IN GENERAL, IS THAT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AT ANY PART OF THIS PLANNING PROBLEM? SO LONG TERM ROAD MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENTS ARE ACCEPTED AND CONSIDERED PUBLIC PUBLIC WASTE AND THEY BECOME A PART OF OUR SECURITY ASSETS. SO THE DEPARTMENT THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY STREET DEPARTMENT HAD NOT STAYED ACCOUNT OF AS A PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAD ACCEPTED AND BECOME PART OF OUR ASSETS. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOMETHING IS DONE ON FORWARD THREE, UM, SOMETHING IS DONE IN PHASE TWO. IT SHOULD BE ON PAGE ONE. MY UNDERSTANDING JUST GENERALLY ENGINEERING WISE IS YOU WOULD LIKELY AS AN ENGINEER ASSESS THE CLIENT HAS IT PROGRESSIVE IN PHASE AND YOU WOULD DO RISK TO DRAINAGE IN GRADING ASSESSMENTS AS IT PROGRESSES PHASE UNDER THE, IT GOES IN THAT ORDER. SO NOW THAT IT'S GONE OUT OF THAT ORDER, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL RISK ASSESSMENT BEING DONE OR ANY PLANNING BEING DONE FROM THE ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE DID THIS FOR THIS. IS THAT SAFE? IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? YOU WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS IF WE HAD NOT BEEN SEEKING A COMPASSION TEST. UM, ALONG THE WAY THIS CONTRACTOR WAS VERY PROACTIVE IN SENDING US THE COMPACTION TEST AS HE WAS DOING ON SOIL LIST. SO OUR CONCERN IS NOT THERE. KEEP IN MIND THEY WILL HAVE TO DO A FORMAL ENGINEERING, AN OVERALL DESIGN VAULT TO PUT, UM, ON THE BACK SIDE OF SMART PARTS. THAT WILL BE A FULLY INTIMATE WALL THAT WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE INSPECTION DEPARTMENT. OKAY. AND SO, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY EXISTS, BECAUSE IT ALREADY EXISTS, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY, SORRY, AROUND SAFETY, THEY STILL WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE NCE. THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE GEOTECHNICAL ANALYSIS. THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH STATE HONOR ANCHOR REQUIREMENT. NOTHING IS, WE'RE NOT CUTTING ANY CORNER. WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THEM TO CUT ANY CORNER IN ORDER TO GET THIS BALL. AND THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO DO A, THEY HAVE A PROCESS TO GET A PERMIT OR THEY, SO NOW WHETHER THEY DID IT THREE MONTHS AGO, THEY, IT THREE MONTHS FROM HIM. BUT FOR, FOR THE WALL, HASN'T THAT HASN'T BEEN, SAY AGAIN, THE WALL HAS, IT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT. CORRECT. THAT WALL BUILT, BUILT AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND [01:15:01] THEY ARE WORKING ON OUR DESIGN THAT THEY BEN TO BUILD INSPECTIONS OR THEY HAVE COMPANY TO BUILD IN A WALL WITH THE RETAINING WALL, THE PURPOSE OF THE RETAINING WALL IS, WILL RETAIN SOIL. CORRECT. SO IF THE SOIL IS ALREADY THERE, THE WALL IS NOT, IF THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE WHAT THE SOIL, YOU KNOW, FROM AN ENGINEER. ABSOLUTELY. ERIC'S MY FILE RIGHT NOW THAT THE EROSION, UM, THAT IS TAKING PLACE OUT THERE. THEY'RE HAVING MITIGATE THAT. YEAH, THEY ARE, THEY ARE. THAT'S BEEN SET THEN. SURE. OKAY. EXCELLENT. OKAY. AND THEN , UM, SO I APPRECIATE WHO CAME OUT TODAY, UH, TO FIRE AND FLORIDA. IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS PRIMARY GOAL. UM, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF FRUSTRATED PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. YES SIR. UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY ACTIONABLE PAYMENT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO? HEY, I'M GOING TO GO MAKE A PROPOSAL, I'M GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE. I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, SEND IT EMAIL TO THE PROPERTY. IS THERE ANY ACTIONABLE NON INFORMATIVE ACROSS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? I'LL TAKE A LOOK. WHAT WE HAVE SAID HERE TONIGHT. EVALUATE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TONIGHT JUST ABOUT BEING, BEFORE WE EVEN ANCHOR, WE HAVE SAME FOUR CAME HERE. I, THE SOLUTION I, THE LAST THING I DON'T WANT TO EVER DO, COME TO A MEETING LIKE THIS AND LEAVE IT IN THE MANNER, WHICH I PROBABLY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO LEAVE IT. AND THAT IS THE PEOPLE NOT FEELING GOOD. ONE THING THAT I SHOULDN'T, I ALWAYS BE HONEST WITH YOU. I TRUTHFUL, I GONNA LIE JUST TO MAKE IT POWERFUL, TO MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT, TELL YOU THE TRUTH. YES. I WILL REEVALUATE. I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I'LL LOOK AT THE STAFF AND ASK THEM WHAT IS THERE SKILLS THAT HE CAN DO BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID SO FAR. THERE'S NOTHING. BUT I'M ONE WHO ALSO FEELS NEVER SEEN HIM. WE'VE JUST COME THROUGH A SITUATION WITH A COUPLE OF SITUATIONS AND BATHROOM DART. YEAH. WE NEVER THAT WE COULD PASS EITHER OF THOSE. THEY TORE IMMUNITY. WELL, GUESS WHAT I NEED. WE GOVERNMENT, BOTH OF THOSE SITUATIONS ARE PRETTY MUCH . THIS IS ONE I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH 14 B BEFORE I BECAME COUNCIL PERSON. I KNOW THE HISTORY OF IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN AFTER TONIGHT HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT HOUSES BEING THERE. AT ONE TIME THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING 550 HOMES ON THE BETTER PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THEM AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT DOWN TO BREED. THERE BEEN A TIME THAT YES BELIEVE WE REALLY FELT THAT THERE WAS NOTHING WE COULD DO WITH THIS PROPERTY. BUT THE THING THAT WE KNOW TODAY IS EVEN WE CONSTRUCT THIS PROPERTY THEY VALUE TO THIS COMMUNITY AND TO THIS CITY ALL. AND IT'S NOT EVEN AN ARGUMENT, IT'S A PRETTY MUCH. BUT WE HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTRACT. AND SO TO ANSWER YOU YOUR QUESTION, YES, HOW'S, HOW CONTINUING AVOID BY GOOD BEGIN REVERSE SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT ATTENDING PLACE HERE. BUT AS LONG AS THIS CONTRACTOR IS FOLLOWING THE LAW, FOLLOWING THE CONTRACT AND DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, THERE'S VERY LITTLE THAT I AS A COUNSELOR INCLUDE . OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, MR NUMBER SEVEN. SORRY, NUMBER SEVEN, . HE LEFT AND, AND YOU WERE YOU NEXT. GO AHEAD. YOU COME UP FRONT HERE AND FIX IT NEXT. YOU HAD A LOT OF YOUR MIND. I, UM, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT BE HERE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. UH, I, I TELL YOU THAT HAVING, HAVING TO BUILT BUILDING IN THIS, UH, AREA OUT HERE SINCE THE EARLY 1970S, WE'VE DEALT WITH HILLS IN THE EASTERN HILLS ALL OF THAT TIME. AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE DID, UH, KINZIE GARDENS WAS ONE OF OUR LAST DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAD A HAND IN ON THE OTHER SIDE OVER THERE. AND WE HAD A 59 FEET OF UH, UH, ORIGINAL IN THAT, IN ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE. AND IF YOU TAKE THAT 86 FEET ON THIS ONE, WE HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM THE RIGHT FRONT TO THE LEFT REAR, UH, TO GET YOUR 86 FEET. IF NOT IN ANYTHING'S GONNA BE THE GLOBAL AREA. IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. UH, ALL THE WAY GOING FROM COUNTRY CLUB ROAD TO MILLER ROAD. WE HAD THOSE [01:20:01] SAME, SAME TYPES OF SITUATIONS. AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY, THEY'RE THROWN, THEY'VE THROWN A CURVE BALL AT US. AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ANY OF US SEEN THIS. AND I'VE BEEN TO MOST OF THE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, THERE TOGETHER ON THESE THINGS AND IN, IN TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE THAT, THAT 25 FOOT MOUND THAT THEY PUT IT THERE, THEY PUT THAT DIRT THERE. THAT DIRT WAS NOT THERE WHEN, WHEN ALL OF THIS STARTED. OKAY, SO THERE'S THE ISSUE THAT DIRT WAS NOT THERE, BUT IT WAS ALLOWED TO BE PUT IN THERE. YEAH. ALRIGHT, SO NOW LET'S TAKE, LET'S TAKE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALONG BLUFF VIEW, WHO HAVE HAVE THE PAY A 3 MILLION PRICE FOR THOSE LOTS THAT THEY HAD ACROSS THERE. SOME OF THE BIGGEST PREMIUMS IN THE CEDAR GARLAND AT THE POINT IN TIME THAT, THAT THAT CLUB CREEK WAS, UH, DEVELOPED. AND I BUILT ALL OVER THAT AREA TOO. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME WHEN INSTEAD OF HAVING A QUARTER OF A MILE VIEW OUT ACROSS THERE, THEY WALK OUT THEIR BACK DOOR AND THEY LOOK UP THE EQUIVALENT 25 FEET HERE, TWO STORY HOUSE BEHIND THAT 50 FEET IN THE AIR, 25 FEET FROM 25 FEET PLUS THEIR BACKYARD. SO SAY 50 FEET AND THEY'LL HAVE THAT RIGHT OUTSIDE THEIR BACK DOOR. AND THAT THAT PREMIUM THAT THEY PAID AND THAT VALUE THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR HOMES IS ON BEING ALLOWED TO BE DESTROYED. THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA SUFFER MILDLY BECAUSE NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND IS GOING TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN. THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE ALL KNEW. I'M NOT GETTING THAT HOT. I'M GETTING YOU, YOU YOU DO IT. TELL, ANYWAY, WHAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE IS WE'RE SEEING SOMETHING THAT NONE OF US HAD EVER SEEN UNTIL WE WALKED OUT THERE AND SAW THIS, SAW THIS AMOUNT OF DIRT. UH, THE WHOLE DEAL OF HAVING A BUFFER THERE ALONG THE WAS AN, AN ABSOLUTE MANDATORY THING TO HAVE A BUFFER. IT ORIGINALLY STARTED OUT A HUNDRED, 150 FEET. NOW THEY'VE GOTTEN IT DOWN TO 25 FEET. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS BECAUSE THAT WAS DONE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN AREA FOR THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT EVERYBODY WANTED. THAT WOULD BE AN AREA WHERE THE TRAIL SYSTEM DIDN'T BRING PEOPLE UP TO THEIR BACK DOOR WHEN THEY WERE COMING THROUGH THERE. SO WE, WE BASICALLY FAILED. FAILED AND FAILED. NOW I GOT A QUESTION ON HERE FOR MAN WHO KNOWS ABOUT THE ENGINEERING PRACTICE ACT. ONE ZONE OF INFLUENCE AND WHAT WE USED TO RETAINING LAWS HERE IN THE, UH, EASTERN HILLS AREA. IS THAT, IS THAT STILL CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S WHAT WE PASSING THE BILL ALLEN. AND WHEN WE CHANGED THE, OKAY, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, ASK THIS BEFORE YOU, THAT YOU'RE GETTING READY TO GO TO ANOTHER QUESTION. YOUR FIRST SITUATION WAS THE PREMIUM TRUMAN WAS LOST WHEN THE GOLF COURSE COULD BE FOUGHT. NO, ALL COURSE CLOSED IT DOORS NO WAS LOST AS A RESULT OF THE GOLF COURSE. AT THAT END, WHOEVER CAME IN AND PURCHASED THAT PHONE AND WHEN CHELSEA CAME BACK TO YOU WITH ME, HAS ANY, DID ANYONE DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL? HAVE THEY VIOLATED ANY CONTRACTS? WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE MORE SWALLOWED US. OH, WHAT, HOW THEY VIOLATED ANY WALLS. HAVE THEY HAVE WHAT, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO GO BACK THE BOTTOM CELEBRATE PHASE TWO TO PHASE ONE AGAIN. DOES THEY VIOLATE ANY OIL? YEAH. WHAT TO MY, THEY, WHAT WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY'VE MANAGED PULL THE RUG OVER THE CITY'S HANDLE. OKAY, NOW LET'S TAKE THAT JUST ONE LAST FEATURE. FORGET ME. THE ENGINEERING PRACTICE STACK CAN USED USING TWO, ONE ZONE OF INFLUENCE, A FOUR FOOT WALL. UH, YOU HAD TO BE A HOUSE EIGHT FEET AWAY FROM IT. THAT'S WAY EIGHT FOOT SIDE YARD. SO FOUR FOOT WAS HIGH WALL AND IT HAD TO BE ANYBODY THAT HAD TO BE ENGINEER. OKAY. SO WE GOT, WE GOT A 25 FOOT WALL OUT THERE WITH THAT 25 FOOT WALL THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE 50 FEET BACK BEFORE THEY KNOW ANYTHING, ANY STRUCTURE THAT SHE'S CORRECT. IT'S NOT 25 FEET. OH, WHAT IS THE, WHAT WHAT IT IS? I BELIEVE IT'S 12, 12 HALF FEET WITH NO WALL. IT IS THAT SLOPE AND IT'S AT THE TOP OF THE SLOPE AS IT'S A 12 FOOT WALL. THAT'S NOT A 25 FOOT WALL, SIR. THANK YOU. YOU DIDN'T MAKE MAKE IT A BIT BETTER. IT JUST MADE, I SAW AND I ACCEPT THAT NOW JERRY, YOU KNOW, FULL WELL THEY CAN BILL UNDER THE COURT AS THE GDC AND ALL THE CLAUSE AS THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION, THEY'RE VESTED AND THEY CAN BUILD IT WITH ALL THE CODES THAT ARE ADOPTED. AND WE ARE HOLDING 'EM TO BUILDING THAT STRUCTURE TO THE CODES. OH, GOOD. THAT THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR JOB. BUT THEY WERE ENTITLED AS A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TO FILL UNDER ALL OF THE LAWS AND THE CODES AND THE COMP [01:25:01] PLANS THAT WERE IN PLACE AT THAT TIME. AND IS THE LAST, AND YOU DID TOO WHEN YOU BUILT YOUR PLACES AS THE LAST HE OKAY, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE ADOPTED CODES, THE ADOPTED TECHNICAL STANDARD MANUAL AND THE ADOPT ITS ZONING, THE PD IT WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL IS APPROVED BY MY POINT IS, IS THAT EVERYTHING IS IS ABOVE ORDER. IS THERE SOME LIEN TO CLEAN THINGS UP AND TIDY UP? YOU BE, BUT RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN YOU'RE PERFECT. I'LL FINE. YOU'VE DONE, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT EVERYBODY'S DONE. BUT THEY COME IN AND AND DONE SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT, DID ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOW THAT THAT 25 FOOT WALL, THAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS GOING TO BE THERE? NO NO. I MEAN INCLUDING ANY OF YOU DONE. NOBODY IN HERE KNEW THAT WAS GONNA BE THERE UNTIL AFTER IT WAS DONE. I JUST HAVE A FOLLOW STORM STUDY, SO WE DIDN'T GET THIS MEETING, SO YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M JUST WONDERING, ARE THERE LIKE REGULAR PEOPLE THAT WORK AT PULTE HALLS THAT HAVE SOME, UM, JUDGMENT IN THIS SITUATION WHERE THEY COULD BE BROUGHT OUT HERE TO, TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR COMPANY IS DOING TO SELL FIVE LOTS OUTTA 300 AND DO THIS TO SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR 30 YEARS, YEARS, 30 YEARS ON FLAT LAND, BUT FOR SOME REASON THE BUILDER JUST 75 FEET AWAY NEEDS TO GO UP THAT HIGH. I THINK IT, THERE ARE SOME REAL PEOPLE AT PULTE AND THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE YOU TOLD US THAT THEY WERE AFRAID TO COME TO A MEETING BECAUSE THEY HAD DEATH THREATS ON THE WERE COMING. YOU TOLD US. UH, COULD, COULD I THINK SO DOWN FOR THEM MAYBE REALLY TO GET REAL PEOPLE FROM INE HALL THAT AREN'T BEING PAID BY THE HOUR TO GO OUT THERE AND PLOW THE STUFF UP, TO COME OUT AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND AFFECTS AT LEAST FIVE HOMES. THERE'S WITHIN A SHORT EYESIGHT OF, OF THEIR WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE BUILDING 300, 1700 TO 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOMES. THAT'S ALREADY A PROBLEM FOR THE HOUSES AROUND THERE AND THEIR VALUE. BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THAT COULD, COULD YOU INVITE JUST ONE OR TWO OF THEIR PEOPLE THAT WORK UP IN THE OFFICES IN THE REAL WORLD AND THAT MIGHT CARE ABOUT MAYBE NOT MAKING WHATEVER PROFIT THERE WAS GONNA BE ON THOSE FIVE LOTS AND MAKING IT MORE, UH, IN, IN CONFORMING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ALREADY BEEN THERE. AND I'M NOT KIDDING. I I THINK, I THINK REAL PEOPLE FROM PULTE KINDA OWE US THAT. AND, AND THERE'S PROBABLY AT LEAST ONE PERSON UP THERE THAT WOULD CARE ENOUGH ABOUT IT IF THEY WERE APPROACHED PERSONALLY BY SOMEBODY FROM GARLAND THAT CARED ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE , THE POLICE STATION OUT HERE AGAIN IS WHAT WE NEEDED AT THE POINT THAT THEY GOT THAT THIS SUPPOSED APPROVED. I THINK WE PROBABLY LEFT THAT A LONG TIME AGO NOW. WELL THAT'S CRAZY. YOU THI THIS IS A, A HOME, UH, DEVELOPER. TY HOMES IS NOT TY GO OUT THERE AND JUST BUILD ANYTHING AND, AND DISAGREE DID NOT CARE ABOUT TWO, THEY'RE BUILDING, THEY'RE BUILDING HOMES NEXT TO OTHER HOME NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY DON'T NEED SOMETHING THAT'S TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM ALL OF THESE PEOPLE OVER HERE. THEY HAD BLEND IN AND STUFF OR NOT BUILD THOSE 5, 8, 5 HOME SITES THERE. I DO REMEMBER THEY TOLD IS THE BUILDER, WHO'S THE, WHO HE IS, HE WHO'S THE OWNER OF THE SITE. TRILOGY. TRILOGY. TRILOGY, YEAH. I'VE LOOKED INTO THAT TOO. AND SO, AND THERE'S REAL PEOPLE, THERE'S REAL PEOPLE THAT LIVE SOMEWHERE IN THE HOUSE IN A HALL NOWHERE NEAR HERE THAT, THAT ARE IN THE TRILOGY INVESTMENT GROUP. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE LOTS OUT OF 300. I DON'T KNOW HOW DISTURB YES, WE COULD, WE COULD DO THAT. MATTER OF FACT, YOU COULD DO THAT. YOU COULD THAT CALL. SHE DOESN'T REPRESENT GOD. I DON'T REPRESENT GOD AND I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS, WHOSE LIFE WAS THREATENED THAT I NEED TO ASSURE THAT WE'LL HAVE SECURITY HERE TO KEEP IT. WELL WE CERTAINLY ASK THAT THEY WOULD BE HERE WITH US. OH, [01:30:01] WE DID. YEAH. WE ALL, ANYTIME THEY, I'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON THE 26TH AND I'LL MAKE THAT CALL AND ASK IF THEY BE HERE. UH, THEY DECLINE BE HERE. SO THEY REALLY HAVE BEEN INVITED AND THEY, WHO, WHO'S THE DAY THAT THAT TURNED TO STATUTE? WHO DID YOU INVITE? THE STATUTES. OKAY, WHAT'S THE NAME? I THINK THIS THE, UH, BEGINNING INTO D OH, LET'S PROTECT THEM AND NOT NO, WE'RE GONNA PROTECT, WE'RE GONNA PROTECT EVERYONE THAT BECAUSE I, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY THOUGHT, ANY IDEA THAT, UH, TO TELL YOU THAT THE CAUSE THE SITUATION THAT IT CAUSED IN THE END. AND THAT IS THEY DECLINED TO COME BECAUSE THEY DID, THEY FELT THEIR LIVES THREATENED SENSE AND THAT I KNOW THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO FELT THAT I MADE THAT UP. OKAY. THEY, THEY FILED A POLICE REPORT, RIGHT? NO, THEY DIDN'T. OKAY. BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT THE ISSUE IS TONIGHT. THE ISSUE TONIGHT IS WE ARE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THIS ELEVATE LAND. WE TRY TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. AND IT RELATES TO WHY THE SITUATION IS, AND IT IS. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THAT? ANYONE? YES, SIR. MR. MOORE. I THINK SHE, I KNOW THERE'S TWO ATTORNEYS, ATTORNEY AND I DEALT THE . THERE IS NOT A BILL WRITTEN IN PLACE. THE SERVICE THAT CAN'T BE MODIFIED OR CHANGED, BUT THE PARTY, THE INTEREST IN REQUIRE AND THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE FOR MM-HMM . LOT CLIMATE CHANGE DEVELOPMENT BY THESE OWNERS. UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, OWNERSHIP IS A BIG DEAL. BUT GOING BACK, I THINK IN OUR DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND WHATEVER IT IS THAT ALLOWED THIS, THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS I WANT SEE COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL CHANGED THAT. WE GOT A GOLF COURSE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN. THERE'S SOME PEOPLE OVER THERE, SAME CLASS. BUT AGAIN, AS I SAY, SAY WE WERE CERTAINLY REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT HERE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN TAKEN AND WE'RE ALWAYS SORT WAYS BY WHICH WE CAN DO WHATEVER IT TAKES IN ORDER TO BRING THIS CRIME DAY INFORMATION SUCH THAT EVERYBODY HAS A WIN-WIN SITUATION. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING CERTAINLY THAT WE CAN TALK TO OUR ATTORNEYS. BUT YOU'LL PROVIDE ME THE, THE PERSON TOLD ME THAT I NEED TO TALK TO THAT MAY HAVE DECISION. OH, I CAN DO THAT SIR. I'LL, I'LL, YES SIR, I CAN TERMINATE. WHEN'S THE NEXT MEETING? UH, PROBABLY HAVE THE TOWN HALL ON THE 26TH OF MARCH. 6TH OF MARCH. AND AT THAT TIME WE WILL TALK ABOUT A LOT. NOW WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I WANTED TO BRING YOU TOGETHER TONIGHT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS ISSUE. AS YOU STATED THAT YOU'VE SEEN ALREADY, YOU'VE GONE CLOSER TO OUR, AND THAT'S GOOD. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU RECEIVE INFORMATION YOU WERE ASKING FOR IN YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA LINES. AND I THINK THAT THIS TOO, IT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS I STATED, WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE, YOU DIDN'T USE, SAID THAT YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR COUNSEL. COURSE YOU COUNSEL PERSON DIDN'T GIVE YOU CALLS BACK AND SO AND SO FORTH. MY PROMISE TO YOU WAS YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. YOU CALL, I'M ONE TO ANSWER YOU. NOW YOU FIND ANOTHER WIFE, YOU ANSWER THAT YOU GET, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO ASK ANSWER. YOU SAY THE OWNER, YOUR PROPERTY WAS FOR NINE MONTHS. AND THE I ASKED THIS IS, UH, AN OPPONENT. MY I CITIZEN ACTUALLY LOST OPPONENT. WHO LOST DID I ASK YOU? WHO LOST THE ELECTION? . AND SHE INSISTED, NO MATTER WHAT I SAY OR DO, SHE INSISTED TO ATTACK ANY AND EVERYTHING THAT I SAY OR DO. AND SO I WILL ALWAYS TRY TO BE RECORDING WHAT HER, YOU NEVER ANSWERED THE QUESTION EVER, BUT I'LL NOT ALLOW YOU'RE SINGLE WIFE IGNORE. THAT'S I WAS NOT ALLOW HER TO USE MY THESE TYPE BOYS TOGETHER. SO WITH THAT , I DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT AND IF ANYTHING, WE HAVE TAKEN NOTES FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. COMING OUT, AWAKE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.