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THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCE SOUTH BOARD TIME IS SIX 30.
UH, MY NAME'S JASON SHANKS, CHAIR OF THE BOARD.
AND ON THE AGENDA, THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
SO THE MINUTES ARE THERE ON THE SECOND PAGE, UH, FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES? SO MOVED.
ANY DISCUSSION? EVERYBODY IN FAVOR? AYE.
IS THERE ANYONE, UH, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS, SIR? NONE.
SO WE'LL MOVE TO ON TO ADAM NUMBER THREE, UH, FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UM, OH, I THOUGHT WE HAD TO DO THAT WHEN WE JUST, WHEN WE WERE GONNA SPEAK.
SAY YOUR NAME BEFORE YOU, YOU SAY, SO, YEAH, THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT.
UNDER ADAM'S, FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ON A STATUS UPDATE ON ACTION ITEMS FROM THE LAST MEETING, UH, MS. STEADMAN, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, IS GONNA GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON GARLAND LAKESIDE AREA PLAN.
SO FIRST I'LL GIVE YOU AN, UH, THE STATUS UPDATE ON SOME ACTION ITEMS FROM THE LAST MEETING.
UM, THE BOARD REQUESTED A GIS MAP OF THE ZONE, UM, WITH SEVERAL LAYERS THAT I'VE OUTLINED HERE.
ONE WITH THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARY, THE EXPANDED BOUNDARY, UM, LAYER CLASSIFYING CITY LAND AND GISD LOAN.
DAN OWNED LAND, UM, PROPERTY VALUE, AS WELL AS INCREMENTAL VALUE AS, UH, HEAT MAP LAYERS AND FORECLOSED AND VACANT PROPERTY LAYERS.
THIS, UM, HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO IT AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEIR GIS TEAM TO GET THAT DEVELOPED.
SO THE GOAL WILL BE TO HAVE THAT TO PRESENT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, IF IT'S DONE BEFORE THEN, UM, WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S ACCURATE AND THEN WE'LL SHARE A, AN ACCESSIBLE LINK TO YOU ALL.
THE SECOND ITEM IS THE CITY'S BUDGET PROCESS IS UNDERWAY.
UM, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
SO OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, ASSUMING WE FOLLOW THE QUARTERLY CADENCE, WOULD BE IN JULY.
AND SO WE WOULD BRING THAT PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE TIF ZONE FOR YOUR REVIEW.
THAT IS ALL THE ITEMS I HAD ON STATUS UPDATES.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO B UNDER NUMBER THREE, UH, PRESENTATION ON SETTING SALE.
UH, PRESENTER'S GONNA BE, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MR. ANDY HESSER, AND NALA IS NOT HERE.
IT WILL BE OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND MR. HESS.
AND I'LL TURN THIS SEAT OVER TO YOU SO YOU CAN DRIVE.
SO, UM, HE HA HE WILL HAVE THE PLAN IN FRONT OF HIM, AND YOU ALL HAVE A PRINTED COPY IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
AND THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS A REALLY EXCITING PLAN.
IT'S A VERY AMBITIOUS PLAN, BUT I THINK IT'S, UM, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE, UH, START PLANNING THROUGH WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ALONG THE I 30 CORRIDOR AS A RESULT OF, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE EXTENSION OF THE TOLLWAY THROUGH, UH, WHERE IT IS NOW ON I 30 ALL THE WAY TO SUNNYVALE.
I THINK EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN IN THIS AREA LONG ENOUGH REMEMBERS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT WENT THROUGH ON THE NORTH SIDE.
IT STIMULATES A LOT OF GROWTH.
AND SO OUR IDEAL WAS, HEY, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT DOING A SMALL AREA PLAN TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THAT AND REALLY DICTATE, UM, WHAT OUR CITIZENS EXPECT OUT OF THAT, UH, POSSIBLE IMPACT.
SO I'M GONNA TRY TO STAY VERY HIGH LEVEL ON THIS PLAN.
YOU'VE GOT THE, THE IN FRONT OF YOU.
IF YOU'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T TOUCH ON, FEEL FREE TO TO, TO LET ME KNOW AND, AND I CAN STOP AT A CERTAIN AREA.
BUT I'M GONNA GO THROUGH, UM, THIS IS A PRETTY EXCITING PAGE.
I'M ACTUALLY GONNA START, UM, ON THIS PAGE.
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THE PROPOSED EXTENSION OF, OF GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE AND, AND WHERE IT, THAT ALIGNMENT IS FAIRLY FIRM.
IT HASN'T CHANGED IN QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN REACHING OUT, UM, KIND OF IN, IN PERIODIC INCREMENTS OF INFORMING THE RESIDENTS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR TIMELINE.
SO WE WANT TO JUMP AHEAD AND KIND OF REALLY STUDY WHAT THAT AREA SHOULD BE WITH THAT IMPACT.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE KIND OF SOME, SOME COLORS HERE THAT REPRESENT A VARIETY OF THINGS.
THERE'S GONNA BE MIXED COMMERCIAL, MIXED RESIDENTIAL.
BOTTOM LINE IS, IT'S A LOT OF MIXED USE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE CERTAIN TYPE OF DWELLING UNITS, CERTAIN NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS, UH, MIXED IN WITH RETAIL, OTHER COMMERCIAL FUNCTIONS, MAYBE SOME OFFICE, MAYBE SOME WORK CENTERS.
AND THE IDEA IS TO KIND OF WEAVE ALL THESE TOGETHER WITH, UM, SOME GREEN SPACE, SOME
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TRAILS, UH, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE WILL ENJOY AND, AND HOPEFULLY CHOOSE TO LIVE IN AN AREA LIKE THIS OVER OUR NEIGHBORS.UM, THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT.
WELL, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO READ, SO I'M NOT GONNA READ THE NUMBERS.
BUT ONE, ONE OF THE WAYS, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF, UM, PLANNING STUDIES, AND THEY'LL, THEY DO A LOT OF ANALYSIS ON, UM, EXISTING CONDITIONS.
YOU'LL SEE IN HERE, THEY LOOK AT ALL OF OUR EXISTING PLANS, THE TRAIL PLANS, THERE'S A PAGE IN THERE FOR THAT.
AND THEY TRY TO PULL ALL THIS IN TO INFORM WHERE OUR GOALS AND, AND ALIGN THEM WITH OUR GOALS AND WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN BETWEEN.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE PLAN IS BROKEN INTO THESE FIVE FOCUS AREAS, AND THEY LOOK AT THE CURRENT TAXABLE VALUE, AND THEN THEY, BASED ON THEIR LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE DENSITY AND THE TYPE, UM, THEN YOU COULD SEE THE POTENTIAL TAXABLE VALUE.
SO LOOKS LIKE BEST I CAN READ, THAT'S A LITTLE OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.
UM, WELL THAT TRANSLATES TO RESOURCES FOR OUR BUDGET.
UM, THAT HELPS PAY FOR THINGS IN THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, THIS IS NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
UM, THESE OR THESE TYPES OF AMBITIOUS PLANS HAPPEN OVER TIME.
BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS IMAGINE IF A, IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND SAYS, OKAY, I'M LOOKING AT BUYING THESE PIECES OF PROPERTY.
THIS DOCUMENT WILL GUIDE, UM, RATHER THAN ALLOWING THIS PIECEMEAL EFFORT OVER TIME, THE DOCUMENT GUIDES, OKAY, YOU'RE ONLY DEVELOPING THIS PIECE WHEN THE NEXT DEVELOPER COMES IN THAT'S DOING THE PIECE NEXT TO IT, THEY HOPEFULLY ALIGN IF WE ARE DISCIPLINED ENOUGH TO STAY WITH THE PLAN.
UM, I MAY BE JUMPING AWAY AHEAD, BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY INTEREST AT THIS POINT? UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TRY TO COME BACK TO THAT.
UM, THERE, THERE IT, AND I'LL TRY TO FIND A MAP WHERE I CAN PARK ON THAT.
AND THERE IS A, THERE IS SOME, SOME ACTIVITY IN SOME AREAS.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF LAG TIME ON THIS, SO WELL HANG ON INDEED.
UM, SO IF, YOU KNOW, AS YOU RECALL IN THE BOND PROGRAM, THE 20 20, 20 20 25 BOND PROGRAM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROJECTS IN THERE, OR A COUPLE OF ALLOCATIONS FOR, UM, THE CITY'S RESOURCES.
AND ONE IS THE TRAIL, AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM.
UM, AND THE OTHER IS SOME LAND ACQUISITION FUNDS.
THOSE ARE, ARE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF WAIT FOR AN OPPORTUNITY IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF INCENTIVE, OR WE MIGHT NEED TO GO IN AND HELP WITH SOME ACQUISITION.
YEAH, WE'VE GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, MODEST FUNDS TO HELP.
WHAT'D YOU DO? HOW'D YOU, HOW'D YOU FIX IT? REOPENED IT, DECIDED IT MAY BE TIMED OUT AND SO I CLOSED IT AND REOPENED IT.
UM, LEMME SEE IF FIND A MAP I CAN KIND OF PARK ON TO TALK THEM.
UH, SO THIS MAP SHOWS IN BLUE ALL THE VACANT LAND.
UM, THE MAJORITY OF THAT VACANT LAND, I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY, A GOOD PORTION OF THAT LAND IS WHAT WE CALL AS STRUCK OFFS.
THOSE ARE LAND, UH, PARCELS THAT ARE, UM, IN SOME TYPE OF TAX FORECLOSURE POSITION, MEANING THAT, THAT THE, THE, WE ARE THE CUSTODIAN OF AS THE CITY ON BEHALF OF ALL THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES BECAUSE SOMEBODY DIDN'T PAY THEIR TAXES ON IT.
SO THOSE CAN TYPICALLY BE PURCHASED EITHER BY US OR OTHER PEOPLE, UM, UH, ON A TAX JUDGMENT WHERE THE, IT GOES THROUGH A JUDICIAL PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE RIGHT AMOUNT THAT'S OWED TO ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES.
AND THEN YOU DO A TAX FORECLOSURE LIEN.
SO WE HAVE OUR EYES ON SOME OF THESE THAT ARE KIND OF IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WHERE MY, YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR.
THERE'S A HANDFUL IN THERE THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE IN FORECLOSURE, WE, WE ARE KIND OF IN CONTROL OF IT, MEANING IT CAN'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION, SO IT CAN'T BECOME SOMETHING THAT ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
UM, THERE MIGHT BE, THERE'S SOME, UM, LARGE OWNERS IN HERE.
THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, UM, WHAT WE CALL LTX.
THOSE ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT ARE FEDERALLY, UM, INCENTIVIZED THROUGH, UM, 4% OR 9% TAX CREDITS ON THEIR INCOME STATEMENTS.
UM, WE HAVE 17 IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE COUNCIL'S AWARE OF THAT AND HASN'T APPROVED ANY RECENTLY.
SO THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A DEVELOPER THAT'S GOT THE WHEREWITHAL FINANCIALLY TO COME IN AND BUY SOME OF THESE LARGE SUMMER ARE APARTMENTS, SOME ARE TOWN HOMES, SOME ARE CONDOS.
THE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED ONES ARE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO, TO GET CONTROL OF.
UM, SO WE, WE ARE FREQUENTLY REACHING OUT TO DEVELOPERS.
WE'VE TALKED TO SOME HERE RECENTLY, UM, ABOUT, HEY, WHAT'S THE BEST STRATEGY TO DO THAT? AND THEN
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TO TALK THROUGH, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES YOU SEE WITH THAT? ONE OF THEM MIGHT BE AS YOU GO IN AND BUY THESE AGING FACILITIES, YOU HAVE TO GENERALLY BUY IT AT MARKET PRICE, BUT THEN YOU'RE GONNA POSSIBLY HAVE ASBESTOS TESTING ABATEMENT, AND THEN YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT YOU GOTTA RELOCATE POTENTIALLY, DEPENDING ON WHO'S BUYING IT.UM, AND SO IT'S GONNA TAKE A BIG DEVELOPER OR TWO OR THREE TO, TO PARTNER WITH US.
UM, BUT WE'RE REGULARLY REACHING OUT AND TALKING TO FOLKS, UM, OUTSIDE OF THIS HARBOR POINT AREA.
UM, IN, IN THE, IN THE TIFF AREA ITSELF, WE'VE GOT SOME INTERESTING TRACTION ON THE ROSE HILL AREA.
UM, CAN'T PROVIDE A LOT OF DETAILS ON THAT YET UNTIL IT'S COMES TO FRUITION.
BUT WE DO SEE SOME ACTIVITY AND I THINK THAT ONCE THINGS GET ON THE GROUND, THERE'S A LOT MORE MOMENTUM AND IT STARTS TO TAKE OFF FROM THERE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY LOOK AT, THIS IS A COMMON QUESTION WE GET, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DENSITY, UM, THAT, THAT MEANS VERTICAL TYPICALLY.
DO WE HAVE THE UTILITIES? SO PART OF THIS EXERCISE IS TO STUDY THE UTILITIES, MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WASTEWATER, THE STORM, THE ELECTRIC, AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE STUDIES.
IF THERE'S SIGNIFICANT LIMITATIONS THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE REPORT.
UH, WE ALSO LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK TO SEE WHAT'S AVAILABLE, WHAT DOES THE ROAD, UH, NETWORK LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND THAT WAY THEY CAN INFORM WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO UPSIZE ROADWAYS DUE TO THE DENSITY AND THE INCREASE IN POPULATION IN THE AREA, OR THE DIFFERENT KIND OF COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC.
WE WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE A DESTINATION COMPONENT HERE, AN ENTERTAINMENT COMPONENT TO THIS.
WHEN WE TALK TO DEVELOPERS, UM, WE ALSO LOOK AT THE TRAIL PLAN, AND I'LL KIND OF PARK HERE FOR A MINUTE AND I, I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT, WHAT THE PLAN IS HERE, UM, IN OUR, LET'S SEE.
I THINK IT'S, NOPE, THAT WAS THE BEST ONE I COULD FIND.
UM, SO OUR TRAIL MASTER PLAN SHOWS, UM, A TRAIL SYSTEM COMING FROM WINDSURF BAY ALL THE WAY AROUND THE LAKE SHORE, ALL THE WAY AROUND HARBOR POINT THROUGH JOHN PAUL JONES, ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH, UP TO THE RAIL AT CITY LIMITS.
UM, THOSE ARE USUALLY DONE IN PIECES.
UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO ONE REALLY LARGE PIECE THAT'S ON THE WATERFRONT WITH THE BOND PROGRAM, UM, AND THE, AND HOPEFULLY BUDGET PERMITTING.
THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT IS RIGHT HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS, UM, ALL THE WAY AROUND UNDERNEATH I 30.
AND THEN JOIN IN WITH JOHN PAUL JONES.
UM, WE HAVE A, I THINK THERE'S A SEPARATE ITEM, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE A GRANT PROGRAM WE'RE TRYING TO APPLY FOR IN THE FINAL STAGES WITH JOHN PAUL JONES WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BID AND, AND CONSTRUCT THIS TRAIL SYSTEM, HOPEFULLY AT THE SAME TIME IS JOHN PAUL JONES AND GET SOME, SOME ECONOMY OF SCALE THERE.
UH, BUT WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY GET YOU CONNECTED ALL THE WAY FROM THIS, THESE RESTAURANTS HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS ALL THE WAY AROUND ALMOST TO THE RIGHT OF WAY OF, OF GEORGE BUSH.
IS THAT GONNA BE THE BOARDWALK? OR? IT WILL BE.
THE BOARDWALK WILL BE THIS SECTION HERE AROUND THE HARBOR POINT.
AND THEN IT'LL JOIN AN ON LAND WHERE THE, WHERE THE, UH, SHEET PILING SEA WALL IS ALONG THE WAY.
SO THERE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OVER THE WATER, A LITTLE BIT IN THE SHEET PILING SEA WALL.
UM, AND SO ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT, THAT WILL HELP, UH, CROSS CONNECT THE NORTHERN POINT OF HARBOR POINT WITH THE SOUTHERN PIECE IS RIGHT HERE AT BASS PRO.
IT'S, AND I DON'T KNOW THE TIMELINE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMMINENT TO BEGIN IN TXDOT YEARS.
WE'LL SEE WHAT, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO COMPLETE IT.
BUT BASICALLY THEY'RE FLIPPING THE STACK WHERE RIGHT NOW BASS PRO GOES OVER, WE'RE GONNA SWITCH IT WHERE BASS PRO IS AT GRADE, AND I 30 GOES OVER.
AND PART OF THAT PLAN IS, IS IN OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND OUR TRAIL PLAN, WHEN BASS PRO GOES AT GRADE LEVEL, IT'LL CONNECT BOTH SIDES FOR PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
THERE'LL BE A 12 FOOT TRAIL ON ONE SIDE AND EIGHT FOOT ON THE OTHER BIKE LANES THAT ARE DEDICATED.
SO IT'S A REALLY, UM, GREAT COMPONENT OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN SO THAT WHEN THIS DOES BUILD OUT, YOU'VE GOT CONNECTIVITY, RIGHT? UM, TO ALL THE PARKS AND ALL THE, ALL THE PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PLACE.
SO, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL RUNDOWN OF, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, AND I'LL GO THROUGH KIND OF SOME HIGH LEVEL, UM, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY TALK ABOUT, AND YOU, YOU CAN READ, READ THROUGH IT, UM, FOR YOURSELF, BUT THESE ARE, UM, LAND USE TYPOLOGIES, AND THEY, AND WE KIND OF TALK ABOUT, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT DESCRIBES THAT TYPE OF, WHAT IS MIXED RESIDENTIAL? WHAT IS MIXED USE? UH, WHAT ARE THOSE RATIOS, WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS? AND THEN THAT'S WHAT DRIVES IF WE, UM, UPDATE THE, THE GDC, THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO ALL THOSE THINGS KIND OF WORK HAND IN GLOVE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMES TO FRUITION.
AND, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
WELL, HE'S GONE PAST THAT NOW.
I'M TRYING TO SEE IF PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING ALONG.
WELL, AND I'M, AND I'M TRYING TO FIND PAGES THAT ARE, THAT I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AREN'T GETTING SO FAR INTO THE WEEDS.
BUT, UM, THIS IS A MAP THAT KIND OF SHOWS THE
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FOCUS AREAS.UM, AND THOSE ARE KIND OF BROKEN UP IN LOGICAL, UH, PLACES KIND OF DIVIDED BY, YOU KNOW, THOROUGHFARES.
UM, ONE OF THE FUTURE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS IS PROPOSED THAT PERHAPS ONCE IT STARTS TO BUILD OUT AND WE WANT TO CONNECT TO GEORGE BUSH AND CONNECT TO WINDSURF, UM, IS, IS EXTENSION OF MARVIN LOVING IS A BRIDGE ACROSS THAT LITTLE, UH, LITTLE FINGER OF THE LAKE.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY A LONG TERM WAY OUT THERE KIND OF THING.
WE WANNA WAIT FOR THE DEMAND TO REALLY DICTATE THAT.
UM, YOU'LL SEE FOCUS AREA ONE, WE'RE CALLING THAT ZION POINT.
THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S, THERE'S VACANT PROPERTY THERE, BUT IT HAS, UM, OWNERSHIP, BUT IT'S NOT DEVELOPED.
UM, SO THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO BE DEVELOPED.
AT ONE TIME WHERE THIS STAR IS RIGHT HERE, THERE'S ABOUT A FOUR ACRE PARCEL THAT YOU MIGHT RECALL.
IT HAD AN ABANDONED HOUSE ON IT FOR AS LONG AS I KNOW.
THEY EVENTUALLY, UM, WERE INTERESTED IN SELLING.
THEY, THEY SOLD TO A DEVELOPER THAT WAS INTERESTED IN BRINGING IN KIND OF A BOUTIQUE HOTEL, UM, AS THEY HAVE WORKED THROUGH KIND OF THE POST COVID CONSTRUCTION COST ENVIRONMENT.
UM, THAT PROJECT'S KIND OF ON HOLD FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT I, BUT WHAT WOULD BE PRETTY NEAT IS, IS TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME INCENTIVES TO HELP THEM COME BACK TO THE TABLE.
BUT A HOTEL THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE WATER AT, AT THE JOHN PAUL JONES BOAT RAMP OVERLOOKING THAT, UM, HAS A LOT OF EXCITING POTENTIAL.
WAS THIS THE ONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED THAT HAD LIKE UNDERGROUND PARKING, ALL THAT? YES, SIR.
BUNGALOWS, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY STORES.
YEAH, THE BUNGALOWS THAT LOOKED LIKE THE MASSIMO.
SAME, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY DEAD, BY THE WAY.
BY, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY DEAD.
WE MAY JUST NEED TO, WE, WE PERIODICALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE SEE PROJECTS KIND OF COME AND GO DEPENDING ON THE ECONOMY OF, YOU KNOW, THE LENDING ENVIRONMENT CHANGES AT THE DROP OF A HAT.
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP, YOKO'S TEAM LIKES TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE A LOT IN CASE, YOU KNOW, HEY, SOMETHING CHANGES OR MAYBE SOMETHING WE KNOW OF THAT CHANGED, WE MIGHT REACH BACK OUT AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO MEET AND TALK THROUGH SOME IDEAS.
NOW, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T FOR PUBLIC, UM, DISCUSSION, BUT IT, IT'S NOT MASSIMO THAT'S DOING IT, IT'S JUST ELEMENTS OF MASIMO'S, LITTLE COOL LITTLE BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT BUNGALOW SETTING.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THE, THE RENDERING THAT I SAW OF THAT WAS PRETTY COOL.
IT, IT WAS A PRETTY NEAT PRODUCT.
'CAUSE IT HAD, YOU KNOW, IT HAD THE MID-RISE YES.
TYPICAL HOTEL, BUT HAD THE BUNGALOWS, HAD POOLS, HAD RESTAURANTS, I MEAN, IT WAS A, IT LIKE FIVE OR SIX STORIES, WASN'T IT? NOT, OR WAS IT AT LEAST I IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT, BUT IT WAS, UM, IT'S A GREAT PLAN.
ONE OF THEIR, ONE OF THEIR FINANCIAL ISSUES WAS THE, UM, UM, RELATED TO PARKING THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T PARKING 'EM ON ZION.
SO THAT, THAT WAS A COST ISSUE THERE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE LENDING ENVIRONMENT GETS A LITTLE MORE FAVORABLE, I THINK WE'LL SEE SOME, SOME PROJECTS COME BACK.
UM, WHERE ARE THE APARTMENTS THERE, JOHN? PAUL? THERE'S, UH, RIGHT HERE.
THERE, WELL, ALMOST THIS ENTIRE YELLOW AREA RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN YOU GOT THE PAWN SHOP RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE, THE NEWEST APARTMENTS ARE RIGHT HERE ON THE INSIDE OF THAT BEND.
SO THE AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE APARTMENTS, IF I, I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHICH PROJECT IT WAS.
THEY ACTUALLY DID SOME WORK ON ZION PUTTING IN SOME, UH, SOME PARALLEL PARKING AND ALL.
WAS THAT, WAS THAT ALONG THERE? OR? IT'S RIGHT HERE ON THE BEND.
THAT'S THE NEWEST APARTMENT IS RIGHT HERE.
AND SO THEY, THEY, UM, BUILT A TRAIL SECTION RIGHT HERE NEXT TO THE ROAD, UM, FOR ACCESS, FUTURE ACCESS TO THE LAKE.
AND SO THEY DID SOME, SOME ON STREET PARKING RIGHT HERE.
THESE ARE THE NEWEST APARTMENTS, AND THEY COME UP TO ABOUT, ALMOST TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
AND SO WAS THE BOUTIQUE MO HOTEL THAT WAS GOING THERE.
UM, THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN SOME TRAIL ALONG THE LAKEFRONT TOO.
THEY WERE JUST GONNA CONNECT OURS.
OUR, OUR, OUR SCOPE IS, IS FOR JOHN PAUL JONES IS HERE.
UM, AND SO THEY, WE WERE JUST ASKING, SO THEY SIT UP REALLY HIGH.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO, WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT TO REACH THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
THEY WERE JUST GONNA CONNECT TO IT.
UH, THIS IS FOCUS AREA NUMBER TWO, THE NORTH POINT.
AND SO THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, YOU'LL PROBABLY RECOGNIZE IS AT THE TIP HERE IS THE BASS PRO AREA.
THE CITY OWNS A LARGE PORTION OF THAT PARCEL, MAINLY THE PARKING LOT AND THE GROUND UNDERNEATH, UH, BASS PRO.
THE, THE, WE HAVE A, A LEASE LONG-TERM LEASE WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT OWNS THE REST OF THESE BUILDINGS ALONG HERE.
UM, AND THEN HE'S GOT THE LEASE TO BASS PRO.
WE DO NOT, WE HAVE A LEASE BETWEEN
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THE GROUND AND HIM, AND THEN HE HAS A LEASE WITH THE, UH, UH, THE GROUND AND, AND BASS PRO.UM, SO A LOT OF INTERESTING OPPORTUNITIES HERE, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE OWN A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT.
UM, WE CAN'T LOSE PARKING RELATED TO BASS PRO AND SOME OBLIGATIONS FOR THEIR BOATS, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY GO VERTICAL WHEN THE DENSITY AND THE COST JUSTIFY.
UM, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE IS SOME PROPERTY HERE THAT'S THE SAME DEVELOPER OWNS THAT'S, THAT'S OPEN RIGHT ON THE FRONTAGE.
WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT BEING THE FIRST MULTIFAMILY COMING IN.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, AND ANY POTENTIAL INCENTIVES THAT THEY MAY BE REQUIRING TO MAKE THAT COME TO FRUITION.
WE STARTED OUT WITH A PRETTY BIG GAP.
NOW THE GAP'S A LITTLE SMALLER, UM, AND THERE'S JUST KIND OF A BIRD'S EYE VIEW AND A, AND A SAMPLING OF WHAT THE IDEAS ARE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THAT, IN THAT LAND USE AREA.
AND THEN EACH ONE OF THE AREAS, AGAIN, I WON'T GO THROUGH IT, BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A DRILL DOWN IN EACH OF THE TAXABLE, UM, EXISTING AND PROPOSED POTENTIAL VALUES.
UM, WAY FINDING GATEWAY FEATURES IS ALL PART OF THE PLAN.
AREA THREE, UM, IS AGAIN, IS A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY IN THERE.
UM, THE ACQUISITION OF THAT WOULD BE PRETTY CHALLENGING.
BUT AGAIN, WE DO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS, UH, RECENTLY EVEN OF TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SCRATCH OUR HEADS AND FIGURE OUT HOW THAT MIGHT WORK.
UM, AGAIN, MAYBE A LONG TERM LIFT, BUT KIND START SOMEWHERE.
UM, IS THERE SOME INFIELD PROPERTY IN THOSE APARTMENTS THAT WERE NEVER DEVELOPED OR NEVER USED? OR HOW, HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO THIS? SO THE, THE MAP I WAS SHOWING THAT HAD THE BLUE ON IT THAT HAD THE VACANT LAND, A LOT OF THOSE ARE THE STRUCK OFFS, RIGHT? SOME OF THOSE ARE ALSO OWNED BY, UM, HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS OUT OF, OUT OF TOWN.
WERE THOSE FAULKNERS OR, WELL, SO, AND THEN THERE'S A BUNCH OF THOSE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE STRUCK OFFS THAT HAVE THE OLD DANNY FAULKNER SLABS STILL ON 'EM THAT NEVER GOT BUILT.
UM, AND ODDLY ENOUGH, A LOT OF THOSE WERE ORIGINALLY IN WINDSURF BAY PARK.
UM, A LOT OF THAT THAT USED TO BE APARTMENTS, BUT THEY JUST NEVER WENT VERTICAL.
SO WE, MANY YEARS AGO HAD THE DUBIOUS HONOR OF REMOVING THOSE CONCRETE SLABS IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WIND SURF BAY PARK IN THE EIGHTIES.
SO THAT, THAT INFILL THAT'S IN THERE IS A MIXED BAG THAT COULD BE, I THINK, EASILY ASSEMBLED.
UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GROUP CALLED, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL OUT OF TOWN HFCS THAT HAVE PROPERTY IN THERE, BUYING THOSE UP OR BEING SOLD TO THESE GROUPS IN THE, IN THE SPECULATION THAT MAYBE THEY COULD BRING IN AND DO HFCS.
WELL, WE WANT TO USE THOSE VERY STRATEGICALLY.
AND CITY COUNCIL IS PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT ANY GROUP THAT WANTS TO BRING IN AN HFC PRO PROJECT MUST BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
AND AS YOU KNOW, GARLAND HAS, ITS, HAS A, A HOUSING FINANCE CORP THAT OWNS A LOT OF PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEY, THEY CALL US WHEN THERE'S A POSSIBILITY AND WE TALK THROUGH IT IF IT'S VIABLE OR NOT.
UM, SO THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RANDOM THINGS IN THERE THAT COULD BE, I THINK, ASSEMBLED ON THE CHEAP, WHERE THE ACQUISITION OF EXISTING FACILITIES WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE.
UH, SO WINDSURF BAY, AND THIS ONE'S ONE THAT, UM, UM, SHOWS I THINK WHAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I WOULD KIND OF CAVEAT THIS, THAT IT'S NOT SET IN STONE.
WINDSURF BAY IS A VERY CHALLENGING ANIMAL.
UM, THE WAY WINDSURF BAY USED TO BE USED WHEN IT WAS FOR WIND SURFERS ISN'T HOW IT'S USED TODAY.
UM, IT HAS SOME CHALLENGES RELATED TO VERY LARGE CROWDS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAD TO CHANGE SOME ORDINANCES AND SOME RULES, AND WE WORK WITH POLICE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE OUT THERE.
UM, AND THAT MEANS IN THE WARM SEASON, IT'S CLOSED ON THE WEEKENDS.
SO WHAT WE SEE THAT IS THOUGH, IS, AND I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT THAT IN THE PAST FOR DISTRICT THREE WOULD AGREE, IT HAS AN ENORMOUS POTENTIAL.
WE HAVE MORE LAKEFRONT THAN ANY OTHER CITY ON, ON LAKE RAY HUBBARD.
UM, WE'LL PUT THE, WHEN WE PUT THE BOARDWALK IN, IT'LL BE THE MOST TRAIL OF ANYWHERE ON THE LAKE.
THE CHALLENGE WITH WINDSURF BAY IS, IS THAT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THE ROAD COMING INTO IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD.
AND WHEN 2,500 PEOPLE, 2000 PEOPLE ON A WEEKEND TRY TO GET IN THERE TO GET TO THE LAKE, 'CAUSE IT'S FREE, UM, OVERWHELM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT BECOMES PUBLIC SAFETY NIGHTMARE.
AND SO OUR HOPE IS WHEN NTTA BRINGS THEIR EXTENSION THROUGH, THEY'VE COMMITTED TO SOME FRONTAGE ROADS AND SOME, SOME IMPROVEMENTS ONTO LOCUST GROVE SO THAT IT CAN HANDLE, UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS ON ONTO GEORGE BUSH.
SO ONCE THAT PLAN IS SET IN STONE, THEN THAT IMPROVES THE ACCESS TO WINDSURF BAY.
I THINK WINDSURF BAY COULD HAVE AN ENORMOUS POTENTIAL BECAUSE IT'S ON THE WATER, BUT IT'S 40 ACRES.
IN ORDER TO DEVELOP PARK SPACE, WE USED TO USE A RULE OF THUMB BETWEEN A MILLION AND $2 MILLION PER ACRE OF DEVELOPED PARK SPACE, UNDEVELOPED AS
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MORE LIKE HALF A MILLION.AND SO THAT'S A 40 TO $80 MILLION PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHEN YOU ALREADY OWN THE PROPERTY? CORRECT.
AND, AND, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES INTO ANYTHING WATERFRONT IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
THE, THE, THE ESTIMATES WE HAD MANY, MANY YEARS AGO FOR THE SEA WALL WAS $1,500 A FOOT.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY, PROBABLY MORE BY NOW.
SO ONE OF THE CONCEPTS IS IN THIS MASTER PLAN THAT'S, THAT'S CONTEMPLATED IS A PORTION OF WINDSURF BAY, WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATE ACREAGE WOULD BE, COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE THROUGH SOME, SOME LEGAL OPTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UM, THAT COULD MAKE IT DEVELOPABLE.
UM, SO IT'S CONTEMPLATED IN HERE.
IT DEFINITELY EVOKES A LOT OF STRONG EMOTIONS FROM FOLKS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
BUT WE FELT THAT IT WAS BETTER THAT THE LIKELIHOOD IS IF THIS DEVELOPS WITH A PARTNERSHIP OF A DEVELOPER, THAT THEY COULD PARTICIPATE IN THAT COST RATHER THAN THE CITY BEARING ALL OF THAT COST.
DOES THAT COME OUT OF, UH, UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OR, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING AS FAR AS, UH, CREATION OF IDEAS AND DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARKS? ALL THE ABOVE.
UH, SO ALL THE, ALL THE RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS AND ALL THE RELEVANT STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PUBLIC WERE INVOLVED IN, IN THESE TYPES OF MEETINGS AND CONTEMPLATING IDEAS.
AND SO, AGAIN, ONE OF THE IDEAS HERE, WHAT'S IN BLUE COULD BE DEVELOPED UNDER CERTAIN CONSTRAINTS RELATED TO PARKLAND.
UM, AND THAT WAY MAYBE THAT COULD SHARE IN THE COST OF THE OTHER, AND I'M JUST MAKING NUMBERS UP, 20 ACRES OF DEVELOPABLE SPACE, 20 ACRES OF WATERFRONT, LET SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER BEAR SOME OF THAT COST.
OTHERWISE IT WOULD, IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS, THAT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER BOND PROGRAM JUST FOR THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT AREA? THE HOUSE THAT IS CURRENTLY AT THE END OF THIS ROAD MM-HMM
THROUGH WIND IS, IS THAT A RIGHT OF WAY THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS EASEMENT? IT'S AN EASEMENT.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT MECHANISM, BUT YES, THEY HAVE THE, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THEM.
UM, IT'S NOT AN EVERYDAY HOUSE.
THEY DON'T LIVE THERE FULL TIME ANYMORE.
I THINK THEY DID IT ONE TIME, NOT THAT LONG AGO.
UH, AREA FIVE IS JUST KIND OF THIS, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MORE OF THE SAME, HONESTLY, BUT IT'S JUST NOW IT'S SOMEWHERE ON THE WEST SOUTHWEST SIDE OF, OF GEORGE BUSH THAT IS PROBABLY AS MUCH AS I CAN SQUEEZE OUT OF HIGH LEVEL.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? THAT'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.
AND YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE IF YOU, IF ONCE YOU READ THROUGH IT, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, JUST EMAIL US AND WE WILL, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK HERE.
WE CAN'T DO IT ALL AT ONE NIGHT.
UM, BUT WE, WE DEFINITELY, I THINK HAD REALLY GOOD ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK, UM, FROM ALL THE, ALL THE NECESSARY GROUPS AND, AND I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD PLAN.
IT'S A LONG-TERM COMMITMENT, BUT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT THE OTHER CITIES ON THE LAKE DON'T.
MICHAEL, UM, LANDERS, WHEN YOU SAID YOU HAD STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, ARE THOSE LIKE PUBLIC, I GUESS? PROBABLY.
AND HOW WOULD YOU FIND OUT ABOUT 'EM? SAY THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY.
YOU SAID YOU HAD STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF AND I WAS WONDERING, UH, HOW WOULD THAT BE ADVERTISED TO, TO PUBLIC TO CHECK IT OUT? I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORDS.
IT IS PROBABLY IN THE APP IN THE APPENDIX, BUT WE, WE DID HAVE, WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT THOSE DATES WERE.
WE, I KNOW, UM, I PARTICIPATED IN AS MANY AS I COULD, BUT ONE THAT WE WENT TO, UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNCILMAN MOORE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDED ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS, UM, IN THAT AREA.
AND WE'VE MET WITH THEM TWO OR THREE TIMES ON SEVERAL OTHER ISSUES RELATED TO THIS.
SO THEY WERE INVOLVED AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S KIND OF TO A CERTAIN DEGREE WHERE THE BOARDWALK IDEA KIND OF GOT LEGS 'CAUSE THEY WANTED TO SEE SOME, UM, ADDITIONAL COURTESY BOAT SLIPS.
AND SO WE TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN.
BECAUSE I KNOW HE HAD A BIG, UM, WELL I, FOR THE PARK, UM, WIND NOISE SPARK OR RIGHT.
AND EVERYBODY CAME AND GAVE THEIR RIGHT OPINIONS.
SAME TYPE OF, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE SAME THING WAS FOR THIS.
WE DID, WE DID THE SAME TYPE OF THING HERE, UM, WHERE IT WAS ADVERTISED AND, AND STAKEHOLDERS WERE INVITED.
WAS THAT A PUBLIC MEETING OR JUST MM-HMM
UH, SOME, SOME WERE PUBLIC, SOME WERE, UH, INVITATION LIKE AGAIN, WE WOULD, AND THEY'RE ALL PUBLIC, BUT THEY WOULD, SOME MIGHT BE TARGETED TO WHERE, WHERE THIS MEETING'S FOR BUSINESS OWNERS.
ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THE, IN THE HARBOR POINT CAME, WE HAD THE GENERAL MANAGER OF BASS PRO AND WE HAD ALL THE RESTAURANT OWNERS AND IT WAS A VERY, VERY GOOD CONVERSATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO, JASON, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT, UH, THAT THE BOARD, UM, BE MADE AWARE WHEN THERE ARE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, IF WE'RE GONNA KIND OF BE INVOLVED WITH HELPING AREA OUT.
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KNOW, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BONUS ON US.BUT I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST RECEIVE NOTICE WHEN THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE I HAVE, I HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WE CAN TAKE THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM AND COMMUNICATE THAT WITH PLANNING.
ANDY, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE HOW MANY YEARS THIS HAS BEEN IN PROGRESS AS WELL? I KNOW THE PLAN ITSELF, YES.
I THINK IT'S BEEN A MULTI-YEAR.
I JUST AT LEAST TWO TO PUT CONTEXT ON IT.
'CAUSE THIS, YEAH, IT DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
IT WAS, IT'S A HURRY UP AND WAIT PROCESS ON ITS OWN.
I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS WE HAVE 20 DIFFERENT CHANNELS OF GETTING THE WORD OUT ON THINGS AND STILL DON'T GET THE MESSAGE.
I'M NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, SO LIKE, UH, SOMEBODY DOESN'T TELL ME CITY MANAGER'S IDEA OF THE AI GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK NOW THAT THIS PLAN IS, IS IN PLACE AND ADOPTED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, WE, WE'VE GOT SOME PROJECTS THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING AND HEARING ABOUT MORE FREQUENTLY AS THEY, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT POTENTIAL AS THEY COME LIVE BECAUSE, UM, IT'S INCREMENTAL, BUT EACH LITTLE DROP IN THE BUCKET HELPS.
UH, DID I ADEQUATELY COVER THE TRAIL? PROBABLY NOT.
THAT'S A SEPARATE, SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM, RIGHT? YES.
WE HAVE TWO, UH, I THINK IT'S ITEM THREE C ON CAPITAL THREE C WE'LL, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE SLIDES AND COVER THOSE, BUT IF, I'M ASSUMING THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTION, FIND SLIDES.
IS IT, WAS IT IN THIS? NO, I HAVE A SEPARATE SLIDE.
I'M GONNA LET YOU DO THAT IF YOU WANT.
I'VE GOT A VERY SUBJECTIVE QUESTION.
UM, THE CITY HAS A LOT OF PROJECTS AND POTENTIAL PROJECTS FROM NORTH GARLAND TO DOWNTOWN TO DOWN ON THE POINT, JUST NOT CUTTING STONE.
BUT HOW DO YOU THINK THIS RANKS IN THE COUNCIL'S INTEREST VERSUS OTHER PROJECTS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY ON A ONE TO 10, 10 BEING THE MOST HIGH PRIORITY AND ONE BEING NO PRIORITY AT ALL? WELL, THERE, THERE'S A POTENTIAL OF A BILLION DOLLAR TAXABLE.
YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THAT VERY EASILY.
I THINK IT, IF, IF WE LOOK AT IT MADE A LIST OF ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, UM, AND THERE'S EIGHT DISTRICTS, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE EIGHT NUMBER ONES, THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT AND THEY'RE, AND AND I THINK THAT YES TO A DISTRICT THREE COUNCIL PERSON, THIS IS TOP AND MR. MOORE HAS BEEN VERY, UH, VOCAL IN HIS ADVOCACY FOR PLANS FOR THIS AREA.
UM, AND IT TAKES TIME FOR THOSE.
AND NOW THAT THEY'RE HERE, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN OPERATIONALIZE.
SO I'D SAY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE WA WHEN THE BOARDWALK IDEA, WHICH YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE IN THIS, IN THIS DRAWING, WHEN IT CAME THROUGH THE BOND COMMITTEE AND IT CAME THROUGH TO COUNCIL, THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT FOR IT.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW THAT WILL ATTRACT PEOPLE THAT STARTS BUILDING THAT FOOTFALL THAT RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL STARTS LOOKING AT.
AND WHEN IS THAT PROJECT GOING? SO, UH, WE HAVE SELECTED THE, UM, DESIGNER KIMLEY HORN.
UH, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH 'EM.
WE'VE HAD AN INITIAL KICKOFF MEETING.
AND SO THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH KIND OF DOING THE INITIAL SURVEY AND DIGGING UP INFORMATION.
SO THERE'LL BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT NOBODY SEES.
SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO KEEP THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S JUST A WRITTEN REPORT PERIODICALLY OR IF WE CAN WE'RE, ONCE WE HAVE ACTUAL THINGS THAT ARE MEANINGFUL TO REPORT, I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK EVERY QUARTER AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE DOING THIS AND, AND IF THERE'S SOME, UH, DECISION POINTS THAT WE THINK THAT ARE APPROPRIATE, THEN WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION ON THAT.
SO IF I MAY PAUSE YOU, THAT'S TECHNICALLY THREE C OH, WE CAN BLEED OVER A LITTLE BIT.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE PLAN AND THEN WE COULD, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK FOR JUST GENERAL DISCUSSION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID BILL, DID YOU HAVE ANY? NO, NO.
WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM C, PRESENTATION ON CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
NO, WE GOTTA KEEP THE ATTORNEYS HAPPY.
UM, SO WHAT'S KIND OF COOL ABOUT THIS IDEA IS, I DON'T KNOW, UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO AUSTIN ON TWO, LET'S CHANGE NAMES.
I THINK IT'S LADY BUR JOHNSON LAKE.
IT USED TO BE CALLED TOWN LAKE.
THERE'S A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE BOARDWALK THAT FOLLOWS DOWN THE RIVER IN THE, IN THE EDGE THAT WE KIND OF TOOK THAT IDEA AND MADE IT PART OF OUR TRAIL PLAN.
AND IN THE, IN THE SENSE THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE GENERAL SHAPE HERE ON THE DRAWING IS WE WANT TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE OVER THE WATER EXPERIENCE, UM, RATHER THAN JUST RIGHT ON THE LAND.
AS THERE'S SOME PLACES WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO STAY ON THE LAND AND JUST DO A SEA WALL, BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO GET SOMETHING UNIQUE.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PROJECT ON TOWN LAKE YEARS AGO, JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, WE APPLIED FOR A,
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UM, FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION GRANT FOR THIS PROJECT.THE FUNDS ACTUALLY WENT TO A DART PROJECT.
UM, I THINK IT WAS THE, UM, COTTONWOOD SECTION OF SILVER LINE MAYBE.
ANYWAY, UM, BUT WE COMPETED STRONG IN IT.
IT WAS A $25 MILLION GRANT REQUEST.
THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING CAME FROM.
UM, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS.
SO IT STARTS, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE HERE, BUT A LITTLE BIT OFF THE MAP.
THE TRAIL WILL START, UM, WE OWN THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE MM-HMM
AND THEN ANOTHER GENTLEMAN OWNS FROM HERE ALL THE WAY AROUND TO BASS PRO.
SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS BRING THE, THE BOARDWALK INTO THOSE THAT POTENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, GET US OUT OVER THE WATER, COME AROUND.
UM, YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ENTRY POINTS THAT YOU CAN GET INTO THE RESTAURANTS.
WE'LL HAVE SOME COURTESY DOCKS PROBABLY ON THIS SIDE, KIND OF ON THE BASS PRO SIDE.
THEY'VE ASKED FOR NO MORE THAN EIGHT TO EIGHT TO 12 OR EIGHT.
WE'LL DO A LITTLE STUDY TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT AMOUNT.
IT GOES UNDERNEATH I 30 GOES AROUND BY THE APARTMENTS YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT.
AND THEN WE'LL TIE INTO THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE DOING AT JOHN PAUL JONES AT THE PARKING LOT.
AND THEN IT'LL CONTINUE ON DOWN FUNDS AVAILABLE DOWN TO JOHN TO UH, GEORGE BUSH.
UM, SO THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A FIXED DOCK OR A FIXED BOARDWALK BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH RAY HUBBARD KIND OF BEHAVES LIKE A CONSTANT LEVEL LAKE, IT'S REALLY NOT.
IT, IT DRIES UP SOME OF, SOME OF US RECALL IN THE LAST MAJOR DROUGHT, UM, HAVING TO MOW THE LAKE 'CAUSE IT WAS DRY FOR SO LONG.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE NOW THE BOATS DOCKS WILL BE, THEY WILL FLOAT, BUT THE BOARDWALK WILL NOT.
UM, AND SO WE'LL HAVE THAT, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT ON THE BOARDWALK.
WE MIGHT LIKE TO FIND SOME PLACES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
MAYBE WE CAN PUT SOME MUSIC OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER.
IT'S KIND OF A SMALL SCALE BAND.
UM, JUST TO TRY TO ACTIVATE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE RESTAURANTS AND LEAVING SOME MONEY BEHIND.
UM, HAVING LIVED ON THE LAKE FOR 40 YEARS, UM, THE BOARDWALK BEING FIXED IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE WAVE ACTION IN THE UNPROTECTED AREA IS ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATING.
AND UM, I KNOW MY DOCK TOOK DAMAGE THIS WINTER BECAUSE OF THE HIGH WINDS CROSSING THE LAKE AND I MEAN, IT IS WELDED AND SCREWED DOWN.
I MEAN, IT IS COMMERCIAL GRADE AND STILL TOOK DAMAGE.
AND SO I I'M, I THINK THEY'RE THINKING THE RIGHT WAY.
PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN I AM, KNOW THAT ALREADY, BUT, UH, THE, THE, THE BOAT PART HAS TO FLOAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TO IT.
BUT, UM, BUT FOR THE BOARDWALK PART THAT'S CRITICAL.
THAT WAY THE WATER LEVEL CAN GO UP AND DOWN AND WAVE ACTION CAN DO WHAT IT DOES AND STILL NOT BE STOMP YOU DOWN BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GETTING READY TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY.
IT'S GONNA BE FAR MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO IT OVER THE WATER THAN IT IS OVER LAND.
AND, AND THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE PLACES THAT IT'S AGAINST THE LAND AND PLACES WE WILL MAKE SOME DETERMINATIONS, BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THIS POINT IS EXPOSED ALL THE WAY IF, AND AND THEY, THEY CALL IT A FETCH.
IT'S A FIVE MILE FETCH FROM HEATH ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
SO THAT WIND HAS FIVE MILES TO GAIN SPEED AND BUILD THAT WAVE ACTION UP.
YOU MIGHT HAVE A THREE, YOU MIGHT HAVE A TWO TO THREE FOOT WAVE WHILE THE ENERGY IS TWO TO THREE FEET BELOW IT AS WELL.
AND YOU GET IT'S BATTERING SIX FEET OF, OF, UH, OF INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN WE DO THE FLOATING BOAT DOCKS.
UM, I, I'VE UNFORTUNATELY HAD SOME, SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA OF WHAT NOT TO DO.
AND THERE IS THE NEED FOR A BREAK WALL TO, TO KEEP THE WAVE ACTION FROM DAMAGING THE FLOATING DOCKS.
AND THERE'S TWO OR THREE WAYS TO DO THAT.
WE'LL HAVE TO EVALUATE WHAT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS.
AND THEN WHEN THE LAKE IS DRY ENOUGH AND THE BOAT DOCKS SETTLE ON THE GROUND, THAT ALSO TENDS TO DO SOME DAMAGE.
AND SO WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE ENGINEER HOW DO WE KIND OF AMELIORATE THOSE EFFECTS WITH, WITH THAT WHEN, WHEN IT HAPPENED, THE WEST SIDE DOESN'T GET, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T SEE THE DIRT QUITE AS QUICK AS YOU DO ON THE EAST SIDE IN SOME PLACES, BUT IT'LL HAPPEN.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS SOME BOAT DOCK ACCESS OVER CLOSER TO THE RESTAURANTS AND NOT SO MUCH OVER TOWARDS BASS PRO.
YOU KNOW, THESE, UM, WHAT IS THAT? HOOTERS AND THE MEXICAN RESTAURANT? IT'S PRIMOS.
UM, THOSE ARE MORE OVER HERE ON THIS, ON THIS LOWER POINT AND WOULD BE SOMEWHAT OF A WALK FROM THERE.
AND THE LAST BOATS DOCK THAT WAS THERE, BASS PRO HAD PUT OUT THERE AND, AND NOBODY REALLY SEEMED TO WANT TO FIX THE DAMAGE ONCE IT HAD RIGHT.
UM, I, AND, AND THAT, AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE THAT'S LOCATED.
IF, IF BASS PRO WANTS THAT 6, 8, 10, UM, THAT'S COOL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE US WOULD BE GOING IN
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THERE FOR PURCHASING FISHING EQUIPMENT.I'M SURE THERE'S SOME VERY FEW.
BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN COMING INTO A MIDPOINT IN THESE RESTAURANTS THAN THE FAR SIDE OF THE RESTAURANTS HAVING TO MAKE THEIR WAY BACK OVER TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND, AND BASS PRO WILL BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THE, THE USERS OF THE OLD BOAT SLIPS, NOBODY'S GOING TO BASS PRO AND BUYING REALLY LARGE BULKY THINGS.
THEY'RE NOT PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE LAKE TO DRIVE THERE TO BUY BIG BULKY THINGS, PUT IT IN THE BOAT AND DRIVE.
MIGHT BE STOPPING OFF TO GET SOMETHING THEY NEED 'CAUSE IT BROKE AND OR THEY DROPPED IT IN THE WATER WHILE THEY'RE FISHING.
THE BULK OF THE USERS ARE RESTAURANTS.
UM, YOU JUST LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAKE AND THEN, AND THERE'S A HUNDRED EVERY NIGHT.
SO I WOULD AGREE TO ME, AND IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE, 'CAUSE AGAIN, IT'S JUST CONCEPTUAL.
THERE'S A CUL-DE-SAC RIGHT HERE ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT'S BETWEEN, UH, VIA BRAZIL AND, AND ASPRO ASPRO.
I'M THINKING THAT'S THE BE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ONE OF THE EXIT POINTS USED TO BE.
SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PROBABLY AFFORD TWO LOCATIONS.
I THINK WE NEED ONE LOCATION THAT'S SPLITS THE DIFFERENCE.
BUT I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE THAT THE PRIORITY IS THE RESTAURANT ACCESS.
EVERYBODY LOVES TO TAKE A BOAT RIDE TO GO EAT AND GO HOME.
WELL I'VE SAT ON THE, WHAT, WHAT IS NOW VIA BRAZIL, BUT WHAT WAS THEN ANOTHER RESTAURANT BACK RIGHT 20 19, 20 18.
I'VE SAT THERE AND WATCHED BOATS PULL IN THERE, COME IN, I MEAN, TO ALL OF THESE AND JUST HAVE A BLAST.
UM, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN THEM WALK THE PARKING LOT AROUND TO THAT SOUTHWEST SIDE AND I THINK THAT JUST CONCEPTUALIZING, I WOULD PUT THE, THE BOAT RAMP OVER OR THE BOAT DOCKS CLOSER TO THIS, TO THE RESTAURANTS AND NO, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CUL-DE-SAC, THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS FOR NOT REAL SURE EITHER.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE A, THEY'VE GOT TWO LOADING DOCKS, I THINK ONE ON THE BOTTOM SIDE AND ONE THERE AT THE, AT THAT I WAS ALSO THINKING BOAT SALES AND IT MIGHT HAVE ALSO BEEN FOR FIRE, FIRE FLOW.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK.
I DIDN'T HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT ANY SORT OF A AMPHITHEATER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE WINDSURF BAY AREA PARTICULARLY, OR THIS AREA IN THAT CONCERT ON THE LAKE HAS BEEN VERY POPULAR OVER AT ROCKWALL FOR YEARS.
AND I'M JUST THINKING IN THE PLANNING THAT MIGHT BE A AMENITY THAT WOULD HELP DRAW PEOPLE THERE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
UM, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO ON A SMALLER SCALE, IT WOULD PROVIDE SOME SPACE FOR A SMALL SCALE BAND ON THE BOAT DOCKS.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE WE'RE SUSPENDING OVER THE WATER, THE COSTLIER IT GETS, OF COURSE, UM, PUTTING IT AT WINDSURF BAY WOULD BE, UM, A POSSIBILITY.
DEPENDING ON HOW IT DEVELOPS, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO DO IT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR RESIDENTIAL MIX IS, HOW CLOSE YOU'RE PUTTING PEOPLE, UM, THEY'LL KIND OF TOLERATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF NOISE AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIMES.
BUT, UM, AND I'M SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAKE.
I USED TO RUN THAT CONCERT SERIES.
SO YOU, UH, NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET WERE NOT FANS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT FACED.
AND SO YOU WANT, YOU WANT THE SPECTATORS LOOKING AT THE LAKE, NOT THE BAND LOOKING AT THE LAKE.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THE STAGE IS BLASTING SOUND UP THE HILL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THERE'S THOSE KIND OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'D HAVE TO MAKE.
BUT I WOULD AGREE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVEN JUST GETTING SMALL SCALE, SOMETIMES IT CAN BE TOO BIG A SCALE AND, AND TO WHERE THE RESTAURANTS MAY NOT BENEFIT.
IF THERE'S 5,000 PEOPLE THERE FOR A SHOW THAT THEY REALLY WANNA SEE, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT GO TO THE RESTAURANT.
SO MAYBE HERE WE COULD LEARN WHAT THE RIGHT SIZE IS TO WHERE IT'S JUST ENOUGH AND IT'S RIGHT IN THE LOCATION WHERE ALL THE PATIO, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE, THE OWNERS OF THE BUSINESSES CAN NOW SELL PREMIUM PATIO SPACE, 25 BUCKS A POP.
'CAUSE THE CONCERT'S RIGHT THERE, THEY, THEY'VE GOT FOOD AND BEVERAGE BEING DELIVERED.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GET UP.
SO I THINK IT'S ANOTHER GREAT IDEA.
UM, SO TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS, BUT THEY CONNECT AND SO YOU'LL SEE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO OUT THERE, THIS DOESN'T EXIST 'CAUSE IT'S WASHED INTO THE LAKE.
WE ARE NOW ENCROACHING ON THE PARKING AREA, UH, DUE TO EROSION.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALLOWED UNDER DALLAS'S RULES TO RECLAIM THE ORIGINAL SHORELINE WILL RUN THIS SEA WALL RIGHT HERE RECLAIM.
UM, OUR TRAIL SYSTEM WILL COME ALONG HERE IN BETWEEN THIS AND WHERE THAT HOTEL WAS PROPOSED, IT WILL COME AROUND AND THEN YOU'LL SEE HERE IT, IT FOLLOWS THE SEA WALL.
AND WE'LL GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO GEORGE BUSH AND THEN TERMINATE AT THAT PARKING LOT THERE.
SO THE, THE, THE GRANT, UM, TALKS ABOUT, UM, IMPROVING THE BOAT DOCK OR THE BOAT RAMP, ADDING A COURTESY DOCK, UM, REDOING THE PARKING LOT COMPLETELY AND SEA WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND TO STOP
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THE EROSION.UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, BID THESE AS PACKAGES TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME ECONOMY OF SCALE.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL IN KIND OF A, UH, APPROVAL PHASE WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE ON THIS GRANT.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT TURNS OUT.
AND IT JUST TAKES FOREVER TO GET FREE.
SO HOW MUCH IS THAT GRANT? IT'S A TWO STEP GRANT.
THE ORIGINAL PIECE WAS FOR DESIGN IS LIKE 250,000.
AND THEN THE SECOND IS YOU'RE ELIGIBLE UP TO A MILLION AND A HALF I THINK.
DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, UN UNFORTUNATELY THIS PROCESS HAS TAKEN ENOUGH TIME THAT THOSE COSTS WERE PRE COVID.
UM, SO WE'LL SEE WHEN THIS DESIGN IS APPROVED BY PARKS AND WILDLIFE, FEDERAL FISH AND WILDLIFE, THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO APPROVE IT AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT THE COST TESTAMENTS LOOK LIKE THEN.
SO OUR DESIGN GOAL WAS AROUND 3 MILLION OR SO.
WHAT ELSE? THAT'S THE END OF JOB CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SORRY, I KNOW THAT WAS HIGH LEVEL AND FAST, BUT THAT'S, THAT WAS GOOD.
THAT WAS VERY GOOD INFORMATION.
WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER AREAS, NOT JUST THIS ONE.
IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE TIF TWO.
THAT IS THE BENEFIT THAT, YOU KNOW, HELPS WITH THIS.
BUT THERE'S SO MANY THINGS GOING ON ABOUT TIME TIF TWO.
SOME IMPROVEMENT AND YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, NOT REGARDING THREE C.
SO IS THIS PACKET ONLY FOR A OR A AND BI MEAN B.
THERE'S SOME 2D AND 3D RENDERINGS THAT I COULD PROBABLY DIG UP AND CIRCULATE THOSE THAT HAVE IT.
IF THAT'S IT FOR ME AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE WILL GET SOFT COPIES FOR EVERYONE AS WELL.
MR. HESTER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PRESENTATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS? YOU, THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
I'LL UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ANY DISCUSSION? WE DO THE SECOND.
WE'RE NOT GONNA DO NUMBER FOUR.
OH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I'M SORRY.
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. GO AHEAD.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY NO, IT SAYS ASKING.
OPEN IT UP UP TO YOU AS THE BOARD.
UM, I THINK THE, UH, UPDATES, UH, FOR MR. STER WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, AT OUR, AT OUR QUARTERLY MEETINGS MM-HMM
AND ANY PERTINENT INFORMATION THAT DOES COME ALONG, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GET THAT PASSED ON TO US THAT I THINK THAT'D BE AWESOME.
AND THE, UH, STAKEHOLDERS MEETINGS.
YOU KNOW, UM, I'D BE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING IF, IF IT'S PUBLIC.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED FOR THAT PLAN SPECIFICALLY THAT PLAN WHAT IT HAS COMPLETED.
BUT ANY OTHER ACTIVITIES OR DESIGN MEETINGS RELATED TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS OR OTHER PLANNING ACTIVITIES, UM, WE WILL PASS ALONG.
AND ANDY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? YES, I DID.
SO THERE WILL BE, ONCE WE START ON THE, THE BOARDWALK DESIGN, KIMLEY HORN WILL BE HOSTING STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS ON THERE AND YOU GUYS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
AND THEN OTHER THAN THE, THE GIS MAP, UM, THAT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO, TO SEE, UM, IF IT'S AVAILABLE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UH, A DEMONSTRATION OF IT.
AND THEN HOW WE CAN, HOW WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT TO PLAY WITH IT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OUR MM-HMM.
THANK YOU JASON, BY THE WAY,
ANY OTHER, UH, FUTURE ITEMS, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? THANKS REMOTION.
WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT SEVEN 19 P.