[ PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS]
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          JUNE 1ST, 2026 WORK SESSION OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THE APPLICANTS, BUT WE'LL TAKE OUR FIRST SPEAKER HERE, SIR. YOU KNOW THE ROUTINE. THREE MINUTES. YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. HEY, DAVID HOGUE, 534 PAULA ROAD, GARLAND 75040. SO JUST ON THE FIREHOUSE REDEVELOPMENT. 
          WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT. SUGGESTIONS. JUST A COUPLE QUICK THOUGHTS I WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE, REGARDLESS OF WHO WE GO WITH. I'D LIKE TO SEE LOOKING INTO POSSIBLY GETTING A MURAL ADDED LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER RECENT ONES. I THINK THEY'VE ADDED A LOT OF CHARM TO THE AREA AND I THINK ONE MORE WOULD FURTHER IMPROVE THIS REGARDLESS OF WHO WE GO WITH. 
          SO JUST SO THEY LIKE TO SEE MAYBE THROWN IN AS A. WOULD ANYONE BE WILLING TO THROW THAT IN? AND THE OTHER THING IS, I SAW AT LEAST ONE OF THE PROPOSALS SUGGESTED MOVING OR REMOVING THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS. AND I'D LIKE TO SAY I'M OPPOSED TO THAT BECAUSE THE LIBRARY ALONE IS USEFUL FOR THAT. BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH IN MY OPINION. WE NEED A LITTLE MORE. HAVING THAT THERE MAKES A NICE SPREAD OUT, AND HONESTLY, I'M NOT SURE WHERE ELSE YOU'D MOVE THEM TO WITHOUT POSSIBLY INTERFERING WITH OTHER REDEVELOPMENT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT. SO JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. THAT'S ALL I GOT. GOOD LUCK TO THE APPLICANTS. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? I BELIEVE YOU HAD TO SIGN UP 
          [1. First Baptist Church of Garland: Alley Abandonment]
BEFORE THE MEETING ANYWAY, SO WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO A WRITTEN BRIEFINGS. THE FIRST WRITTEN BRIEFING ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER ONE, FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF GARLAND ALLEY ABANDONMENT. ALL 
          [2. Proposals for 116 S. 6th Street]
RIGHT. AND THEN NOW ON TO VERBAL BRIEFINGS. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS PROPOSALS FOR 116 SOUTH SIXTH STREET. I'LL GET US STARTED WHILE SHE'S PULLING UP THE POWERPOINT. THE MOUSE IS A LITTLE TRICKY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ANDY HESTER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. TONIGHT WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. THE FOUR UNSOLICITED PROPOSALS RELATED TO THE WHAT WE CALL THE BOY SCOUT BUILDING. SO AGAIN TONIGHT OBVIOUSLY IS WORK SESSION. NO DECISIONS BEING ASKED FOR TONIGHT. JUST HEARING THE PRESENTATIONS. 
          HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR US OR THE APPLICANTS. YOU CAN ASK THEM. OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PERHAPS DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TWO WEEKS FROM TOMORROW AT THAT REGULAR SESSION FOR AN ACTION ITEM. SHOULD COUNCIL BE READY TO DO THAT, THEN WE COULD RECEIVE DIRECTION TO NEGOTIATE WITH WHOMEVER YOU SELECT. SO WITH THAT, I'LL LET DANA KICK US OFF AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE THE PRESENTATIONS THEMSELVES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO JUST DO A QUICK FIVE MINUTES, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN THE 1940S. ITS MOST RECENT USE WAS A MEETING SPACE FOR THE BOY SCOUTS. GARLAND IS ON THE NATIONAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES, AND THAT BUILDING IS ONE OF THE CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS TO THAT DESIGNATION. IT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN SUBDISTRICT AREA, AND THE PERMIT USES USAGES FOR THAT BUILDING ARE CULTURAL FACILITY, OFFICE, RESTAURANT, RETAIL, HOTEL, AMONGST SOME OTHERS. WE DID HAVE THE BUILDING APPRAISED IN 2025, AND IT CAME IN AT 450 000. IT'S JUST SHY OF 500 ZERO SQUARE FEET. THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WAS INCLUDED IN THE FIVE PROPERTIES THAT WERE LISTED IN THE RFP IN 2020. FOUR OF THE CITY OWNED PARCELS THAT WERE PUT OUT THERE AS A REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PROPOSALS AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, BUT SINCE THEN, THE CITY HAS RECEIVED MULTIPLE UNSOLICITED PROPOSALS. FROM THAT. WE TOOK FOUR TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IN FEBRUARY, AND COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING BACK THE DEVELOPERS TO PROVIDE THEIR VISION FOR THE BUILDING. AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WE HAVE NOT NEGOTIATED WITH ANY OF THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS. SEVERAL ARE ASKING FOR THE PARCEL NEXT TO IT, WHICH INCLUDES THE PUBLIC RESTROOM. RIGHT NOW. SOME ARE NOT, AND SOME ARE OFFERING 
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DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF MONEY FOR THE BUILDING, AND SOME ARE REQUESTING INCENTIVES AND SOME ARE NOT. AS YOU LISTEN TO THE PROPOSALS, I WOULD JUST REMIND COUNCIL THAT THE DOWNTOWN DID JUST COMPLETE A REDEVELOPMENT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. IT WAS FINISHED UP IN FEBRUARY OF 2026, AND THESE ARE THE FIVE PILLARS THAT ROSE TO THE TOP OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS WE'RE LOOKING AT REDEVELOPMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND THAT IS TO RETAIN THAT AUTHENTIC FEEL, PRESERVE THE HISTORIC CHARACTER, STRENGTHEN THE DISTRICT AS A DESTINATION, ATTRACT PROFESSIONAL AND ACTIVE ADULTS. I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW OUR ED IS WORKING ON BRINGING MORE MULTIFAMILY, ESPECIALLY TOWARDS THAT AGE DEMOGRAPHIC, AND TO ENHANCE THE CONNECTIVITY AND WALKABILITY OF OUR DOWNTOWN. SO TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM FOUR DIFFERENT FOLKS. THE FIRST ONE IS CALLED FIREHOUSE COMMONS. IT'LL BE PRESENTED BY DAVID HARRELL, CASA AND FLEUR, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY KRISTIE AND TOM ROUSE DALLAS TRAINING COLLECTIVE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY JUSTIN ESTES AND STATION ONE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY TOM DANOFF. SO I'M GOING TO JUST TURN IT RIGHT ON OVER TO OUR VERY FIRST PRESENTER. GOOD EVENING. I ASSUME THE SAME NAME ADDRESS ALL THE NO, NO NEED, NO NEED. 
          ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE IF I CAN MAKE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH MY INTRODUCTION PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MY TENANT PARTNERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS WELL. MY NAME IS DAVID HARRELL. I HAVE 20 YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT EXPERIENCE, INCLUDING TEN YEARS OF RESTORING BEAUTIFUL OLD BUILDINGS LIKE THIS ONE IN DEVELOPING NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS. SINCE FALLING IN LOVE WITH GARLAND, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING ALONGSIDE THE CITY STAFF ON SEVERAL PROJECTS, INCLUDING EVALUATING EVALUATING POTENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS DOWNTOWN. I BROUGHT TACOS, VINO TO THE TO THE SQUARE. I BROUGHT LOCKWOOD DISTILLING TO MAIN STREET, AND I'VE SPOKEN ON MULTIPLE GARLAND SPONSORED PANELS FOCUSED ON ADAPTIVE REUSE. OUR VISION FOR THE FIREHOUSE IS SIMPLE TO TRANSFORM IT TO AN ECONOMICALLY ACCESSIBLE RETAIL PROPERTY, ANCHORED BY DISTRICT BUILDING TENANTS WHO HELP DRAW PEOPLE DOWNTOWN AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, KEEP THEM HERE. IT'S MY OPINION THAT GARLAND DOES NOT NEED MORE RESTAURANTS TODAY. WE WE HAVE A GAP, AND THAT GAP IS RETAIL. I GREW UP IN OAK CLIFF WATCHING BISHOP ARTS TRANSFORM FROM A COLLECTION OF RUNDOWN OLD BUILDINGS INTO A THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD, DISTRICT AND REGIONAL DESTINATION. AND ONE OF THE REASONS BISHOP ARTS WORKED SO WELL IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARRIVE, YOU KNOW YOU'RE THERE FOR AN EXPERIENCE, AND RETAIL HELPS CREATE THAT EXPERIENCE. WE'RE GOOD ON RESTAURANTS FOR DOWNTOWN. WE NEED SOMETHING THAT KEEPS PEOPLE DOWNTOWN ONCE THEY'RE HERE FOR LUNCH AND DINNER. AND THAT'S WHERE DISTRICT BUILDING TENANTS BECOME ESSENTIAL. MY PARTNERS REED, JULIE, CHELSEA AND I ALL QUALIFY AS THOSE DISTRICT BUILDING TENANTS. AND FOR THOSE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE TERM, DISTRICT BUILDING TENANT ISN'T JUST ONE THAT OPENS FROM 9 TO 5. THEY CREATE A DRAW THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DRIVE TO AND OTHER BUSINESSES WANT TO BE NEAR. WE'RE FULLY COMMITTED TO ACTIVELY PROGRAMING THE SPACE WITH POP UP MARKETS, ART SHOWCASES, DIY EVENTS, AND THIS ISN'T A PASSIVE INVESTMENT FOR US. WE INTEND THIS BUILDING TO HAVE A PULSE. PART OF OUR VISION IS ACCESSIBILITY AND A RAPIDLY CHANGING MARKET. LIKE DOWNTOWN GARLAND, IT'S TEMPTING FOR OWNERS TO CHASE 30 AND $35 A SQUARE FOOT RENT RATES, BUT RETAIL CAN'T SURVIVE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. SO A CORE PART OF WHAT WE HOPE TO DO HERE IS KEEP RENTS AS LOW AS POSSIBLE, SO OUR TENANTS CAN PUT DOWN ROOTS AND BECOME ANCHORS FOR THIS DISTRICT FOR YEARS TO COME. AS FAR AS THE BUILDING IS CONCERNED, WE INTEND TO BRING BACK THE BUILDING'S ORIGINAL CHARM WITH THOUGHTFUL TOUCHES AND UPDATES. THE EXTERIOR WILL REMAIN FUNDAMENTALLY UNCHANGED. WE PLAN TO RESTORE THE EXTERIOR REPLACE SIGNAGE TO BE REMINISCENT OF THE ORIGINAL DOWNTOWN BLADE SIGN. UPDATE THE BOARDED UP OPENINGS WITH ROLL UP DOORS SIMILAR TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. PAINT WHERE APPROPRIATE, AND ADD SMALL ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS LIKE NEON SIGNS ALONG THE EYEBROW. LET ME. THERE WE GO. THE SITE PLAN. OUR SITE PLAN WOULD INCLUDE CAFE STYLE SEATING AND AMENITIES DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE EASY POP UP PROGRAMING, OUTDOOR MARKETS, LIVE MUSIC, ARTIST SHOWCASES, AND DIY EVENTS. I'VE BEEN DRAWN TO THIS BUILDING FOR MULTIPLE YEARS NOW, AND TO SAY THAT WE'RE READY TO GO IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. AND I BELIEVE BECAUSE WE'RE A RETAIL CONCEPT RATHER THAN A FULL RESTAURANT BUILDOUT, WE CAN OPEN IN RECORD TIME. I'D LIKE TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE MY TENANT PARTNERS AND HAVE THEM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEIR CONCEPTS REAL QUICK. I'VE GOT REED ROBINSON. I'VE KNOWN REED FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. WE SERVED ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER ON MULTIPLE EVENTS AND ART BOARDS, AND HE'S THE DEFINITION OF A DISTRICT BUILDING PARTNER. 
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JULIE ROBINSON CURRENTLY OWNS THE LARGEST NONALCOHOLIC BOTTLE SHOP IN THE SOUTHWEST, LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON, THE SHOP OFFERS AN EXPERTLY CURATED SELECTION OF ALCOHOL FREE SPIRITS, WINES AND BEERS, AND HOSTS ZERO PROOF EVENTS, POP UPS AND MIXOLOGY CLASSES IN BOTH IN STORE AND AROUND THE METROPLEX. SHE WANTS HER SECOND LOCATION TO BE IN GARLAND, AND CHELSEA CALLAHAN IS THE OWNER OF EAST DALLAS VINTAGE. SHE RUNS A HIGHLY CURATED MULTI-VENDOR VINTAGE SHOP. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO DFW POP UP, INCLUDING THE ONE THAT'S IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND, YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF HER VENDORS. SO I'D LIKE FOR JULIE REED AND CHELSEA TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THEIR CONCEPT REAL QUICK, AND WE'LL CLOSE OUT. 
          HELLO, I'M CHELSEA CALLAHAN, OWNER OF EAST DALLAS VINTAGE AND A 13 YEAR GARLAND RESIDENT. 
          I WOULD BE BRINGING A MULTI-VENDOR VINTAGE SHOP TO DOWNTOWN GARLAND. THIS WOULD INCLUDE VINTAGE DEALERS AND LOCAL MAKERS AND LOCAL ARTISTS. THIS WOULD MEAN 40 TO 50 SMALL BUSINESSES INSIDE MY BUSINESS. A SHOP OF THIS KIND WOULD HELP DOWNTOWN GARLAND MORE OF A DESTINATION FOR VINTAGE SHOPPING, WHICH WOULD GIVE A BOOST TO YOUR CURRENT EXISTING SHOPS LIKE BOOGIE NIGHTS, ROXY, MADE IN THE SOUTH, PICKERS, PARADISE, AUSTIN'S ANTIQUES AND EVEN DEAD WAX RECORDS. IN FACT, THESE OTHER SHOPS ARE WHY I'LL BE ABLE TO BRING THE POPULAR VINTAGE AND THRIFT STORE TOURS PUT ON BY A LOCAL TOUR COMPANY TO GARLAND. I'M CONFIDENT MY BUSINESS CAN CONSISTENTLY BRING NEW PEOPLE TO DOWNTOWN. GARLAND RESALE HAS GROWN 650% SINCE 2018 AND IT CONTINUES TO GROW. THIS GROWTH IS BEING DRIVEN BY MILLENNIALS AND GEN Z AND MAYBE MOST IMPORTANTLY, SECONDHAND SHOPPING IS GREAT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. I'M DEDICATED TO MAKING THIS SHOP A COMMUNITY THROUGH EVENTS LIKE POP UPS, SIP AND SHOPS, APPRECIATION NIGHTS, AND FUNDRAISERS FOR LOCAL CAUSES. WE WOULD ALSO JOIN THE GARLAND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. MY HUSBAND AND I LOVE LIVING IN GARLAND, AND ONE OF THE FIRST MARKETS I DID REGULARLY WAS THE URBAN FLEA MARKET HERE IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND. THAT WAS AROUND TEN YEARS AGO BEFORE THE SQUARE GLOW UP. SO IT'S BEEN MY DREAM NOW FOR YEARS TO HAVE A SHOP IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND. THANK YOU. HI, I'M JULIE ROBINSON AND I'M VERY TALL. SO I I'M THE CO-FOUNDING PARTNER AND CHIEF MIXOLOGIST AT BEYOND THE BAR. 
          AND WE ARE T T THEHEHE F F FIRIT NONALCOHOLIC BTL SHOP, TASTING ROOM AND LOUNGE AND EVENT SPACE HERE IN DFW, AND THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND IN DFW. AND OUR CLIENTS FOR DRY BARS AND DRY MIXOLOGY COCKTAIL CLASSES RANGE ANYWHERE FROM THE ASIAN ART MUSEUM TO DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART TO PENNYMAC AND UTD. SO WE DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUN THINGS. 
          AND REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT TO KNOW IS A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKE THE CHOICE TO CUT DOWN ON THEIR DRINKING FOR HEALTH REASONS, OR MAYBE THEY'RE EXPECTING A CHILD. 
          PERHAPS THEY NEVER STARTED DRINKING BECAUSE OF PERSONAL AND HEALTH REASONS. SO WE'RE REALLY HERE TO BUILD COMMUNITY AND GIVE PEOPLE OPTIONS. AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS ALCOHOL SALES ARE AT A 90 YEAR LOW RIGHT NOW. AND REALLY, WHO'S DRIVING THAT ARE GENERATION Z. 
          THAT WOULD BE OUR TOP DRIVERS, BUT ALSO MILLENNIALS. AND DON'T FORGET GEN X. SO BUT WE'RE JUST HERE TO GIVE PEOPLE A FUN KIND OF A BUILD COMMUNITY. AND WE HOST EVENTS LIKE BOARD GAME NIGHTS, ALSO, EVEN COMEDY NIGHTS, KARAOKE. YES, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO KARAOKE, ALCOHOL FREE. I'VE DONE IT. SO JUST SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE A GOOD TIME. SO YOU CAN HAVE THE FLAVOR AND THE RITUAL OF THE DRINK WITHOUT THE HANGOVER. AND SO WE ALSO PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SMU UTD, AMPLIFIED MINDS FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND DOGS MATTER. SO WE DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO OUR PLAN IS TO BE AN ALCOHOL FREE LOUNGE AND SOCIAL SPACE, OFFERING COMMUNITY EVENTS LIKE THE ONES I MENTIONED BEFORE AND SOME LOCAL ART, LOCAL CURATED ART SHOWS, SOME POP UP EVENTS WITH DIFFERENT VENDORS, AND JUST TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FUN TOGETHER. SO BEYOND THE BAR WILL BE GOOD PARTNERS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE BANK HAD 
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CULTURAL DISTRICT DISTRICT, AND WE ARE REALLY DEDICATED TO THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF DOWNTOWN GARLAND. I MEAN, I MYSELF, I LOVE ROXY, I LOVE COMING AND HAVING COFFEE IN THE SQUARE. SO REST ASSURED THAT WE WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNER. AND IN FACT, WE'VE EVEN DONE A POP UP EVENT WITH THE PLAZA THEATER FOR IT CAME FROM TEXAS FILM FESTIVAL. SO BASICALLY, THINK OF THE CITY OF GARLAND AS THE SPIRIT AND BEYOND THE BAR AS THE MIXER AND THE GARNISH, THE RIGHT FINISHING TOUCH. SO ALL RIGHT, I KNOW MY TIME IS SHORT HERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, LADIES AND DAVID. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON. OUR STORE IS IN A 1958 BREEZE BLOCK BUILDING. SO IT'S IN THIS WONDERFUL BUILDING THAT WAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IN 1958. SO PRESERVING THE SPACE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FIREHOUSE ITSELF, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS BUILDING A FEW YEARS AGO, AND DAVID AS WELL, AND MYSELF AND ALL OF US HAVE SEEN THIS BUILDING. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CREATE THE KEEP THAT BUILDING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE LIKE IT IS. I SERVED AS THE MEDIA EVENTS DIRECTOR FOR THE DALLAS ARTS DISTRICT FOR FOUR YEARS. I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WORKING IN CULTURAL DISTRICTS. I FEEL LIKE I'M WORKING WITH AMY AND OTHER PEOPLE HERE IN THE DISTRICT. WE COULD REALLY MAKE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN DOWN ON THAT END OF THE BLOCK. WE ARE AN ALCOHOL FREE BOTTLE SHOP, BUT THIS BUILDING IS A CULTURAL CENTER AS WELL. AND WE'RE EVEN TALKING ABOUT BRINGING THIS A LITTLE RADIO STATION AND PODCAST STUDIO TO THE SPACE. SO WE COULD HAVE LIKE BROADCASTS. THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM, THE WORLD OF BROADCAST. BUT SOMETHING THAT KIND OF LIKE HAS A LITTLE MORE INTRINSIC FOCUS ON DOWNTOWN GARLAND AND THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHAT I GOT. ALL RIGHT. THANKS SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. SURE. YEAH. WE HANG OUT UP HERE BECAUSE I KNOW WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YES, WE'LL START WITH MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM. LOOK, THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE. WILL YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WAY YOU WANT THIS SETUP? WHERE WHICH FLOOR HAS THE SHOP? JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THE FIRST FLOOR WOULD BE BEYOND THE BAR, THE BOTTLE SHOP ON THE FIRST FLOOR, ONLY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. CHELSEA WOULD BE TAKING BOTH FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR. AND THEN THE SPACE ABOVE. 
          BEYOND THE BAR IS KIND OF A TBD RIGHT NOW. WE WOULD ALL USE IT AS AN OFFICE SPACE INITIALLY. 
          ONCE WE GET MOVING AND PERMITTING ALLOWING, WE'D REALLY LOVE FOR IT TO BECOME A GARLAND FIREHOUSE THEMED AIRBNB POTENTIALLY. OR STAY OUR OFFICE. IT'S IT'S TBD. OKAY, YOU MENTIONED ACCESSIBILITY. I KNOW YOU WEREN'T TALKING NECESSARILY ABOUT ADA COMPLIANCE, BUT HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO MAKE THE BUILDING ADA COMPLIANT AN ELEVATOR? OR HOW, HOW WILL PEOPLE GET TO THE SECOND FLOOR THAT. SO AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, WE'D OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DO SOME ADA UPGRADES TO THE FIRST FLOOR. MY UNDERSTANDING, SPEAKING WITH MY ARCHITECT IS AS LONG AS CHELSEA HAS ACCESS TO SIMILAR USES DOWNSTAIRS THAT SHE WOULD NOT HAVE TO CREATE ADA SPECIFIC ADA ACCESS FOR THE UPSTAIRS. AND IF THE UPSTAIRS, THE OTHER PORTION STAYS OFFICE OR AN AIRBNB, WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE THAT ACCESS. SINCE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING RESTAURANT. 
          THERE'S. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT ELEVATOR BECAUSE THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE, EXPENSIVE UPGRADE. 
          OH, I KNOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER CARAWAY. YES. CAN YOU SHARE MORE ABOUT YOUR POP UP SHOPS? HOW WOULD YOU COORDINATE THAT AS FAR AS OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN THE BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME? SURE. WELL, I CAN SPEAK JUST FOR BEYOND THE BAR. I MEAN, WE HAVE JUST VERY SMALL SPACE, JUST PEOPLE BRINGING JUST FOUR FOOT TABLES. AND I'VE HAD LIKE A MACAROON VENDOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT JUST BROUGHT MACAROONS TO SELL. AND AN ARTIST THAT JUST BROUGHT A SIX FOOT TABLE AND JUST KIND OF SET UP. SO WE WOULD DO IT KIND OF WITHIN, WITHIN OUR SPACE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR SPACE IS MOVABLE EXCEPT FOR THE MAIN BAR. AND SO WE TRY TO BE PRETTY FLEXIBLE IN HOW WE PRESENT. SO IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE A TON OF VENDORS. IT WOULD JUST BE MAYBE SEVERAL SMALL ONES, JUST AS AN ATTRACTION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR MY SHOP. RIGHT NOW I HAVE REGULAR POP UPS, A CUPCAKE VENDOR, A SOURDOUGH LADY. 
          SOMETIMES I HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE SET ON A BACK PATIO THAT I HAVE AT MY CURRENT LOCATION, SO IT'S THE SAME. IT WOULD JUST BE A COUPLE AT A TIME AND I DON'T CHARGE THOSE VENDORS TO 
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SET UP. IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR ME TO ADVERTISE AND FOR ME TO HELP SUPPORT THEIR BUSINESS. 
          AND WE DON'T CHARGE EITHER. IT'S JUST TO HELP LOCAL SMALL VENDORS PROMOTE THEIR BUSINESS. 
          AND I THINK REID AND I HAVE A LITTLE BIT BROADER VISION. SO LIKE I SAID, I BROUGHT LOCKWOOD DISTILLING TO THE SQUARE. AND WHEN THEIR FIRST LOCATION IN RICHARDSON, WE DID A TON OF POP UPS WITH THEM, EVERYTHING FROM GOAT YOGA TO ALL FEMALE OWNED ART NIGHTS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN VENDOR VENDOR EXCITEMENT. AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT NOT ONLY WOULD THEY BE DOING THEIR SMALLER VENDOR EVENTS INSIDE, THAT WE WOULD GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THESE AREAS BY THE BATHROOM, A KIND OF AN EXTENSION OF THE SQUARE, AN EXCUSE FOR PEOPLE TO COME DOWN WHERE WE CAN HAVE IF WE'VE GOT A SINGLE ARTIST THAT WANTS TO DO A LARGER EVENT DISPLAY, OR IF WE HAVE, I DON'T ANY, ANY NUMBER OF POTENTIAL SMALLER POP UP OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE COULD IMMEDIATELY LIKE. YEAH, HOW, HOW DOES THIS WEEKEND SOUND? AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO COORDINATE WITH GRANDVIEW AND THE BANK HEAD CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT ON WHEN THEY HAVE CURRENT EVENTS GOING ON. WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THAT AND POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, WE, I, I LOVE THOSE BATHROOMS WHERE THEY ARE. IN FACT, I THINK THEY'RE FANTASTIC BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT COULD BRING A LOT OF TRAFFIC DOWN TO THAT END OF THE OPPORTUNITY ON THAT WHOLE BLOCK TO BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE SOME EXTERIOR SPACES, LIKE GARLAND IS ALREADY DOING SO WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? WAIT YOUR TURN, MAN. I KNOW YOU'RE EXCITED, COUNCILMEMBER TRENT. THANK YOU. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO WHAT IS YOUR THE BIGGEST EXECUTION RISK FOR YOUR PROPOSAL? AND HOW WOULD YOUR TEAM TO STAY ON TRACK OF IT? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. SO SO BASED ON THE TIMELINES AND YOUR PROPOSALS, SOME THE PROPOSAL ALREADY HAVE HOW MANY DAYS THEY'RE GOING TO START AND RUNNING. SO BACK TO THE QUESTION IS THAT WHAT IS YOUR BUSINESS EXECUTION RISK OF YOUR PROPOSAL AND HOW WOULD YOUR TEAM TO KEEP ON TRACK? I WOULD SAY I THINK JUST WHISPER IN MY EAR, I THINK THE NUMBER ONE UNKNOWN IS DOES THE BUILDING NEED REMEDIATION IF IT NEEDS REMEDIATION, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY EXTEND OUR TIMELINE. BUT SINCE WE'RE RETAIL, IT'S NOT A HEAVY LIFT FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT. WE'RE NOT DOING ALL THE UTILITIES. HOPEFULLY, THAT A RESTAURANT WOULD REQUIRE. AND I, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD BE OPEN 90 DAYS FROM PERMITTING. THAT'S THAT WOULD BE OUR INTENT, IF NOT SOONER. THANK THANK YOU MA'AM. SIR, MAYOR PRO TEM LOOK BACK TO YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. I THE SPEAKER THAT CAME UP BEFORE OUR WORK SESSION STARTED. 
          I'D LIKE FOR EVERY DEVELOPER TO KIND OF ANSWER TO THIS. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON A MURAL? OH, I OWN THE INSTAGRAM THE RICHARDSON MURAL PROJECT. SO I ADDED 11 MURALS TO THE DOWNTOWN RICHARDSON AREA. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCKWOOD DISTRICT, WE HAVE A GIANT WALL OF MURALS DOWN ON POLK STREET. I'VE GOT FIVE MURALS THERE. MOST OF THEM HAVE AUGMENTED REALITY AS AN OPTION, SO YOU CAN SCAN THE QR CODE. THE MURALS COME TO LIFE. I LOVE MURALS. IF WE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT A MURAL THERE, I AM 100% FOR IT. I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT I MET THESE TWO GUYS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, BECAUSE WE WERE BOTH ON THE BOARD FOR AN ART ORGANIZATION, SO WE ARE VERY PRO ART. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THE DOWNTOWN WHERE TRINITY GROVES IS NOW? USED TO BE AN OLD FRUEHAUF TRAILER BUILDING OWNED BY A GENTLEMAN NAMED BUTCH. BUTCH WOULD ALLOW REED AND SOME OTHER RAGTAG GUYS TAKE OVER THAT BUILDING, AND WE WOULD DO 1500 PERSON ART PARTIES WITH 150 ARTISTS THAT THEY HAD AN 18 INCH BY 18 INCH PIECE OF PLYWOOD AND NO RULES. AND THE NIGHT BEFORE THE AUCTION, EVERY ARTIST HAD TO COME IN AND DO THEIR PIECE. AND WE BASICALLY CAMPED OUT THERE BECAUSE WE COULDN'T AFFORD SECURITY. AND THE NEXT NIGHT WE'D HAVE A BIG PARTY, AND OUR BIGGEST RAISE WAS OVER $87,000 FOR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN AND ART RELATED CHARITIES. AND WE DID THAT FOR 17 YEARS. AND I ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK TO TRY TO DO OUR 25 YEAR ANNIVERSARY REBIRTH, WHICH MAKES ME FEEL REALLY OLD, A LOT OLDER, I WOULD SAY WITH THE MURAL PROJECT ON THE SIDE OF THE WALL, THE BIGGEST CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IS, CAN WE ACTUALLY DO IT? I MEAN, IS IT LIKE ON A HISTORIC BUILDING? I KNOW THAT WE ALREADY SPOKE WITH, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN AND MAKE SURE THAT BRICK AND ALL OF THE SURFACES AND ALL THE SUBSTRATE ARE TAKEN CARE OF. SO WHATEVER WE DID, WE'D WANT TO DO IT WITH A LOT OF CARE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTERS? I SEE NONE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. 
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OKAY. I'M GOING TO BRING UP OUR NEXT ONE. AND IT'S CASA AND FLOR WITH CHRISTIE AND TOM ROUSE. I'LL GET THEM STARTED. OKAY. 
          HI THERE. HOW'S EVERYBODY? OKAY. HELLO, EVERYONE. ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM AT CASA AND FLOR, WE ARE THRILLED TO BE HERE TODAY. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. CASA AND FLOR IS A CONCEPT THAT HAS BEEN 15 YEARS IN THE MAKING, AND TODAY WE HOPE TO SHARE WHAT THAT EXPERIENCE COULD BE LIKE FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. AND JUST ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE COSTUME FLOR CAN BRING TO YOUR VIBRANT CITY, BOTH IN FOOT TRAFFIC, IN ENGAGING LOCAL RESIDENTS INTO A UNIQUE CONCEPT AND JUST THE BEAUTY OF THE CONCEPT AND WHAT THAT CAN DO TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WITH THAT IN MIND, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHRISTY ROUSE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE LANDED HERE, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR JUST THE IMPORTANCE IN OUR LIFE OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND, AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS WE'LL HAVE IN THAT REGARD. HI. SO MY NAME IS CHRISTY ROUSE, AND I OWN A SMALL EAST DALLAS FLORAL DESIGN COMPANY CALLED ON FLOWER. I STARTED THIS SMALL BUSINESS ALMOST 17 YEARS AGO, AND THROUGH MY JOURNEY I HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE WEDDING DAYS REALLY SPECIAL AND EVENTS REALLY SPECIAL FOR PEOPLE. AND IN DOING THAT, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE LOTS OF VENUES AND COLLECT LOTS OF LITTLE TIDBITS OF INFORMATION AND UNDERSTAND WHAT GOES RIGHT ON A DAY THAT IS IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE AND WHAT DOESN'T GO RIGHT. AND IN THAT, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO TAKE ALL THE THINGS THAT I THINK GO RIGHT AND PUT THEM IN ONE SPECIAL PLACE. AND IN THAT ALSO, I HAVE SUCH A GENUINE LOVE FOR OLDER BUILDINGS. I GREW UP IN AN OLDER HOME. IT'S PROBABLY 150 YEARS OLD BY NOW. AND OUR HOME THAT WE, THE ONLY HOME WE'VE OWNED AND LIVED IN, IS JUST TURNED 100 LAST YEAR. SO WE HAVE A GREAT RESPECT FOR OLDER BUILDINGS. AND JUST A COUPLE OF OF THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT ON THE CONCEPT. I MENTIONED THE FOOT TRAFFIC AND WHATNOT. WHEN COSTUME FLOOR REACHES STEADY STATE, WE'LL BE BRINGING MORE THAN 12,000 UNIQUE VISITORS TO THE CITY OF GARLAND EVERY SINGLE YEAR. WE'LL ALSO HAVE A RETAIL CONCEPT THAT CHRISTY WILL TALK THROUGH THAT WILL ACTIVATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, ALONG WITH SOME VERY UNIQUE DESIGN FEATURES IN OUR CONSERVATORY, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE, WHICH WILL BE OPEN TO THE GARLAND RESIDENTS TO COME ENJOY COFFEE AND JUST SIT IN A BEAUTIFUL SPACE TO ENJOY CONVERSATION AND A BEAUTIFUL ROOFTOP BAR THAT WILL. A ROOFTOP DECK THAT WILL. WE'LL TALK ABOUT FURTHER. IT ALSO WILL BRING MORE THAN $1 MILLION IN TAXABLE REVENUE TO THE CITY, AND WE BRING VERY STRONG EXECUTION STRENGTH TO THE TABLE. 
          AND OUR OWNERSHIP TEAM. CHRISTY'S ALMOST 17 YEARS NOW OF EXPERIENCE IN THE WEDDING SPACE HAS BUILT JUST AN INCREDIBLE NETWORK. SHE'S PROBABLY DONE MORE THAN 800 WEDDINGS IN THE AREA AND KNOWS A LOT OF PEOPLE CONNECTED INTO THE EVENT SPACE, AND WE PLAN TO BE PERSONALLY INVOLD IN THIS. WE ARE NOT TURNING THIS OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE. THIS IS OUR OUR BABY, SO TO SPEAK, AND WE PLAN TO BE FULLY INVESTED IN ITS SUCCESS. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME, SOMETHING I WOULD ALWAYS WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT MY BACKGROUND IS ACTUALLY AS A SOCIAL WORKER. AND THAT'S MY DEGREE. AND I CAME INTO FLORAL NATURALLY, BUT I STILL HOLD THAT SOCIAL WORKER. PART OF WHO I AM AS PART OF WHO I AM. I REALLY LOVE THE COMMUNITY. I LOVE HELPING OTHERS. I TAKE EVERY CLIENT FROM ANY BACKGROUND SERIOUSLY AND MAKE THEIR DAY SPECIAL AND MAKE THEIR EVENT SPECIAL. AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME, I GUESS I'VE TURNED INTO A SERIAL ENTREPRENEUR. I NEVER INTENDED TO BE ONE. I'M QUITE RISK AVERSE ACTUALLY, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW I LANDED HERE, BUT I KEEP DOING IT MORE AND MORE. 
          BUT I'VE STARTED TWO BUSINESSES ALREADY. MY FIRST ONE JUST SOLD RECENTLY, AND MY SECOND BUSINESS HAS NOW BEEN IN INC 5000 COMPANY FOR THREE STRAIGHT YEARS. SO I UNDERSTAND HOW TO BUILD OUT AN OPERATION AND BRING IT TO SCALE. AND THE MORE I'VE LEARNED ABOUT THIS CONCEPT THROUGH MY RESEARCH AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE MARKET, I THINK THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR BOTH OF US. SO GETTING INTO THE NUMBERS, THIS STARTS TO KIND OF TELL THE 
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STORY OF HOW WE GET TO THAT 12000 PLUS COUNT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MARKET, LAST YEAR, DALLAS HAD OVER 43,000 WEDDINGS IN THE DFW AREA. WE'RE AFTER WHAT WE CALL THE A ACCESSIBL PREMIUM. THAT'S ABOUT 35% OF THAT MARKET. THAT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT A PREMIUM EXPERIENCE FOR A VALUE. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT CASA AND FLOOR BRINGS. SO FROM OUR PRICING MODEL TO THE WAY WE'VE LAID OUT THE SPACE WHICH CHRISTIE WILL WALK THROUGH LATER, EVERYTHING IS BUILT AROUND PROVIDING THAT PREMIUM EXPERIENCE, BUT PROVIDING IT FOR FOR VALUE. AND WE'RE REALLY UNDERREPRESENTED, IN MY OPINION, ON ALL OF OUR METRICS HERE BECAUSE WE AREN'T INCLUDING THINGS LIKE BUSINESS MEETINGS AND HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATIONS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND WE TEND TO ACTIVATE ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN BOTH THE RETAIL AND THE VENUE CONCEPT TO REALLY PULL THE LOCAL RESIDENTS IN AND LET THEM EXPERIENCE WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. YEAH. WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THIS KEEPS PEOPLE IN THE CITY? OKAY, SO I THINK WHAT I WHAT I HAVE GATHERED, IF THERE'S ONE KNOWN FACT THAT I'VE GATHERED FROM ALL MY YEARS OF WEDDINGS AND DRIVING LITERALLY A U-HAUL INTO THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND SETTING UP A WEDDING, AND THEN LOADING THE U-HAUL AGAIN AND DRIVING IT BACK TO DALLAS, IS THAT PEOPLE WILL GO FAR, REALLY FAR TO HAVE A DAY WHERE THEY CAN SPEND ALL DAY LONG WITH THEIR FAMILY. SO PEOPLE WILL DRIVE OUT TO THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND HAVE ALL THEIR VENDORS COME OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE RUSHED. THEY DON'T WANT THE STRESS OF THE DAY TO EAT THEM UP. THEY DON'T WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE TO RUN AND GET READY. WHAT THEY WANT IS A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME AND RELAX. AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD WANT TO BRING TO THIS EVENT VENUE. I DON'T CARE WHAT EVENT IT IS. IT COULD BE A GRADUATION, IT COULD BE A QUINCEANERA, IT COULD BE A WEDDING. PEOPLE WANT TO GATHER WITH THEIR FAMILY. THEY WANT TO HAVE TIME TO RELAX, GET READY AND THEN HAVE THE EVENING. AND IN THAT, THEY'LL WANT TO MILL AROUND GARLAND AND GRAB SOME FOOD AND AND MAYBE SHOP A LITTLE BIT, GO TO A VINTAGE STORE, RECORD STORE. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN AREA, AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE IT AND FALL IN LOVE WITH IT LIKE WE HAVE. ON THAT NOTE, WHY DON'T YOU WALK THEM THROUGH THE RETAIL CONCEPT? OKAY. THANK YOU. WE PRACTICED AT HOME. I TOLD HIM TO MAKE SURE TO CUE ME IF I FORGOT SOMETHING. SO THIS WILL BE A SMALLER RETAIL CONCEPT. WHAT I'M HOPING FOR IS JUST A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD STOP IN AND GET A LITTLE FRESH BOUQUET OF FLOWERS IF IF THEY NEED SOMETHING FOR A SPECIAL EVENT. BUT ALSO, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO GO GET DINNER AND THEN JUST WALK IT OFF. ALL THIS GREAT BARBECUE AND WONDERFUL MEXICAN FOOD DOWNTOWN, AND THEN YOU NEED A PLACE TO BURN SOME CALORIES. SO WHY NOT JUST WALK ON OVER AND DO SOME SHOPPING? AND I'M THINKING SOMETHING SMALL, YOU KNOW, CANDLES, DISH TOWELS. MAYBE SOME FUN LITTLE AREAS LIKE MAHJONG AREA OR A WILLIE NELSON AREA OR DOLLY PARTON AREA. JUST FUN. YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN EXPERIENCE SHOPPING. MOST PEOPLE SHOP ONLINE, SO YOU WANT IT TO BE ENJOYABLE. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A DOOR FROM THE RETAIL AREA INTO THE CONSERVATORY WHERE YOU COULD GO IN AND JUST RELAX, BREATHE IN SOME FRESH AIR, SOME GREENERY, AND THEN IN THERE WE COULD HAVE POP UP COFFEE SHOPS, POP UP OR COFFEE CART, SORRY, OR POPSICLES OR JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'LL INTERCHANGE IT WITH WHATEVER THE SEASON IS. MAYBE WE HAVE PICTURES WITH SANTA OR THE EASTER BUNNY. IT JUST CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON. SO JUST TO TOUCH ON THE PROJECT SCOPE IS REALLY THREE THINGS WE'RE DOING. THE FIRST IS UPDATING THE, THE WHAT, I GUESS WHAT YOU'D CALL THE CURRENT FIRE STATION, WHICH WILL BE WHERE WE'LL HOST A LOT OF THE, THE TABLES AND EVENTS AND THE DANCING. AND CHRISTY WILL SHOW HOW THAT SPACE IS GOING TO BE USED IN MORE DETAIL. I DO WANT TO REINFORCE SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT MURALS, AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY COOL IDEA. I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ALREADY ON WHERE WE COULD PUT IT. SOMEONE ELSE ALSO SAID, I'M NOT SURE WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE OLD FIRE STATION. SO WE'RE PLANNING TO BUILD SOME OUTDOOR STORAGE THAT WILL BE FACING TO THE PUBLIC. AND I THINK WE COULD MAKE THAT VERY BEAUTIFUL AND MAKE THAT ACCOMMODATE THINGS LIKE MURALS AND BRING IN LOCAL ARTISTS TO DO THAT. SO WE THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE COULD DEFINITELY ACCOMMODATE. THE OTHER TWO PARTS OF IT ARE THE RETAIL CONCEPT THAT CHRISTY MENTIONED AND OUR DAILY ACTIVATION COMPONENT T IN THAT. AND THEN ALSO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION ADDITIONS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE CONSERVATORY AND OUR ROOFTOP DECK, WHICH I THINK WILL BRING A REALLY NICE EXPERIENCE TO GARLAND AND SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE THAT ISN'T THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN IN MANY OTHER VENUES. OUR GOAL HERE WAS TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT HAS KIND OF THAT OLD HOLLYWOOD STYLE TO IT. THAT'S KIND OF TIMELESS, WITH A LITTLE MORE PIZZAZZ IN THERE AND BRING SOMETHING THAT NO OTHER VENUE HAS. SO THEY HAVE A REASON TO DRIVE FROM DOWNTOWN DALLAS TO 
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GARLAND OR WHEREVER THEY'RE COMING FROM. AND WE BELIEVE THAT ROOFTOP DECK AND THAT CONSERVATORY ARE PRETTY UNIQUE. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT IN ANOTHER VENUE. WHY DON'T YOU WALK THROUGH THE LAYOUT? OKAY. ALSO, I WANT TO SAY NOT JUST DALLAS, BUT LIKE ALL OVER PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN. I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH SOME PEOPLE DO WANT TO DRIVE TO THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND DRIVE HOME AFTER SOME COCKTAILS, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S SAFE, A SAFE BET ON THAT PART OF IT TOO. BUT AS FAR AS I'M JUST GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH, GENERALLY, IF YOU'RE COMING OFF THE STREET, THE FIRST LEVEL WOULD BE THE RETAIL STORE, THE CONSERVATORY, AND THEN THE BUILDING DOWNSTAIRS VERSION OF THE BUILDING. IF YOU WERE TO WALK IN THROUGH THE FIRE STATION AS IS, YOU WOULD SEE A NEW STAIRCASE IN THE CORNER AND AN ELEVATOR AND A BUILT IN BAR. THE REST OF THAT SPACE WOULD BE OPEN, AND I'M ASSUMING PEOPLE WILL USE THAT MOSTLY FOR RECEPTION SPACE. IT WILL BE OPEN ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO IF YOU WERE STANDING AND LOOKING TOWARDS THE RESTROOM, THOSE CURRENT WINDOWS WOULD BE OPEN AND YOU WOULD SEE THE RESTROOM. WHERE THE RESTROOM IS NOW IS WHERE THE CONSERVATORY WOULD BE. AND THAT WOULD BE A PCE FOR AN ELEGANT COCKTAIL HOUR OR A PLACE WHERE A COUPLE COULD GET MARRIED. YOU COULD RENT THAT ROOM OUT JUST EVEN FOR A NICE DINNER PARTY, A CORPORATE EVENT. IT DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE WHOLE BUILDING AT THE ALL AT ONCE. WHEN YOU GO UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR, IT'S MORE OF A LOUNGE. SO THAT WOULD BE FOR DANCING MOSTLY. IT WOULD ALSO HAVE A SUITE WHERE PEOPLE COULD GET READY. SO IF YOU WERE DOING A WEDDING, YOU'VE GOT CEREMONY IN THE CONSERVATORY, RECEPTION IN THE MAIN FIRE STATION, DINNER AND DANCING OR I'M SORRY, NOT DINNER DANCING IN THE SECOND FLOOR. AND THEN THE ROOFTOP BAR COULD BE COCKTAIL OR OVERFLOW, ANY OF THOSE THINGS. THEN THE ROOFTOP BAR, I THINK WOULD ALSO BE REALLY FUN FOR EVENTS WHEN WE'RE NOT BOOKED. SO, YOU KNOW, 4TH OF JULY WE SELL TICKETS AND PEOPLE GET TO COME UP TO THE ROOFTOP BAR AND ENJOY. SO THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A MULTI-USE SPACE THAT PEOPLE COULD USE. WE HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS, BUT WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THEM RIGHT NOW. SORRY. JUST IN TERMS OF TIMELINE, WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING THIS. WITHIN A YEAR. SOMEONE MENTIONED THERE COULD BE PROBLEMS WE RUN INTO. THOSE ARE THINGS WE DON'T KNOW YET, BUT WE HAVE BEEN PROBLEM SOLVING FOR THOSE THINGS. OUR ARCHITECT AND BUILDER IS ACTUALLY HERE TODAY, AND HE'S COMMITTED TO ME THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY BE READY WITHIN A YEAR. AND I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS. SO TRUST ME, WE'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE THE BANK WILL ALSO WANT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN SO REVENUES CAN START FLOWING. AND THIS IS JUST A BIT OF A SNAPSHOT OUR TIMING. BUT WE'RE REALLY WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT. AND I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO CLOSE WITH IS JUST THANKING MY TEAM. FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO THIS. UMBERTO AND ROBIN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. YOU'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS IN THIS PROCESS. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE'RE JUST REAY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE BE PART OF THE EXCITEMENT THAT'S BUILDING HERE AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING ENOUGH EYEBALLS ON IT TO SPREAD THE WORD ALL OVER DFW, NOT JUST GARLAND. WE'LL BE TRUE TO BOTH. DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? I'VE JUST ALWAYS WANTED TO BE PART OF A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M NOT ALONE LIKE THAT. 
          SO I THINK IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THAT DREAM AND YOU DRIVE THROUGH DOWNTOWNS ANYWHERE, YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THAT'D BE SO FUN IF I GOT TO DO THAT ONE DAY IN MY LIFE. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING US COME AND SHARE OUR VISION. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. I SO I LOVE YOUR CONCEPT. I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL. I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT ANY OTHER SPACES IN THE VICINITY? YES. OKAY. AND HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THE EVENT SPACE WOULD HOLD AT A TIME? I THINK WE'RE AT ABOUT RIGHT NOW BY OUR MEASUREMENTS, ABOUT 175. THAT'S IF IF WE'RE THINKING FOR AND MY BRAIN, FORGIVE ME, MOSTLY GOES TO WEDDINGS BECAUSE I DO THAT THE MOST. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE A LOT. SO WEDDINGS AND QUINCEANERAS ARE VERY SIMILAR SETUP. IF YOU HAD A GROUP THAT WAS CLOSER TO MAYBE 200, IN MY MIND, YOU COULD HAVE THE RECEPTION AND THEN YOU DO KIND OF LIKE A ROOM FLIP AND YOU PUT MORE TABLES OUT IN THE CONSERVATORY. BUT THE WINDOW AREA, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE DOOR, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD KIND OF FLOW INTO THERE. BUT THAT'S, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY THE MAX IS 200. SO ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS, NOT EVEN NECESSARILY 
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ON A CITY PART WOULD BE FOR YOU GUYS IS OUR PARKING SITUATION DOWNTOWN IS CATASTROPHIC. SO WE KNOW WHY ARE YOU GETTING ANGRY? AND SO I, I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOMEONE POUR IN A BUNCH OF MONEY IN THEIR HOPES AND DREAMS INTO THIS LOCATION, AND THEN IT TURN AROUND. AND THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT HINDERS YOUR BUSINESS. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY, MY, MY BIG CONCERNS ALSO ON THAT SAME TOKEN WOULD BE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE VENDORS THAT NEED TO LOAD AND UNLOAD. 
          WHERE WOULD THAT TAKE PLACE? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND SO THOSE ARE JUST THINGS IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD THAT I COULD SEE BEING PROBLEMATIC. CAN I SPEAK TO THE PARKING FIRST? AND MAYBE YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THE. YEAH. COULD YOU DO THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN I CAN'T EVEN EXPLAIN HOW MUCH SHE DOES THAT. SO ON THE PARKING WE WERE TALKING WITH NANCY ABOUT THAT EVEN RECENTLY. AND OUR STANDING IS THERE'LL BE QUITE A FEW SPOTS AVAILABLE AT THE SENIOR CENTER THAT'S BEING BUILT. UNDERSTAND THAT MANY OF OUR EVENTS WILL BE IN THE EVENING, SO WE THINK THERE'LL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE. THERE'S THE PARKING GARAGE AND WE'RE OPEN TO BUYING LOTS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME LOTS THAT MIGHT BE FOR SALE THAT COULD HOUSE PARKING, AND WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT AND MAYBE BRING IN SOME ASSISTANTS TO DO DEVELOPMENT INTO MORE OF A PARKING GARAGE TYPE OF SITUATION. IT IS A CONCERN. 
          IT'S THE MAIN CONCERN THAT OUR SBDC CONTACT IS WORKING WITH US ON WITH OUR BANK IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THE PARKING. SO WE'VE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT TO NANCY, AND WE'D LOVE TO KEEP EXPLORING THAT, BUT WE DO NEED TO GET THAT SOLVED. AGREED. I AGREE AS WELL. 
          I ALSO WAS THINKING LIKE, DO WE JUST GET ONE OF THOSE LIKE SEXY GOLF CARTS AND JUST GO PICK PEOPLE UP AT THE PARKING GARAGE AND THROW THEM IN? AS FAR AS LOADING AND UNLOADING, I WILL SAY THAT MY STAFF AND I HAVE A JOKE THAT ANY HOTEL WE GO TO, I'M LIKE, LET'S GO CHECK OUT THE LOADING DOCK BECAUSE IT'S SO HARD AS A VENDOR TO GET IN AND OUT OF BUILDINGS. MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS, FORGIVE ME, WHAT'S THE THE STREET THAT LIKE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FIREHOUSE, THE STREET ON THE RIGHT, SO WHERE T SENIOR CENTER WOULD FACE. BUT THERE'S. 
          WHAT IS IT? AVENUE A AVENUE A OH, AVENUE A, THERE'S A, I GUESS WE'RE MAYBE ONE OF THE FIRE TRUCKS WOULD HAVE COME IN. THERE'S A BIG GARAGE DOOR THERE ON THE RIGHT. SO TO ME, THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT SPOT FOR VENDORS TO LOAD IN. THE VENUE WILL HAVE A CATERING KITCHEN DOWNSTAIRS AND WE WILL DOUBLE THAT AS A FLORAL SPACE. BUT IF WE KEEP THAT SPOT OPEN, I FEEL LIKE YOU COULD JUST ROLL IT UP. AND BEING A VENDOR WHO HAS HAD TO UNLOAD AND LOAD IN REALLY SERIOUS SITUATIONS, I THINK THAT'S A DREAM COME TRUE. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. SO WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. QUESTIONS I SHOULD SAY COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I S NONE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. MAYBE WE THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT ON TO OUR NEXT ONE. AND IT'S THE DALLAS TRAINING COLLECTIVE. AND DUSTIN ESSENCE IS GOING TO PRESENT. A LITTLE NERVOUS. IF I STUMBLE AND MUMBLE, FORGIVE ME. I'M JUSTIN ESTES, I AM A GARLAND GUY. I WENT TO KIMBERLYN AUSTIN ACADEMY GARLAND. HI MAN, I'M ABOUT TO GET EMOTIONAL. I GREW UP GOING TO THE SQUARE AFTER AWAY GAMES AND YELLING IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SOUTH. SORRY. AFTER WE BEAT YOU GUYS. 5514 SO THE SQUARE IS A LOT TO ME. SQUARE MEANS A LOT. THIS IS MY HOME. THIS IS WHERE I'M RAISING MY KIDS AND THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR BUSINESS. ROBERT SELDERS STARTED OUR GYM 17 YEARS AGO. MAN. AND WE TELL PEOPLE WE'RE NOT A GYM. WE TELL PEOPLE WE'RE A COACHING PROGRAM. 
          WE TELL PEOPLE WE'RE NOT IN THE GYM BUSINESS. WE ARE IN THE RELATIONSHIP BUSINESS. AND IT'S TRUE. PEOPLE COME TO OUR GYM AND WHEN THEY WALK IN, IT IS A PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION, REPRESENTATION OF THEM RAISING THEIR HAND AND SAYING, I NEED HELP. WE'RE NOT AN ACCESS GYM. 
          WE'RE NOT A DO YOUR OWN EQUIPMENT THING. YOU ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE COACH. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE OVERCOMING EMOTIONAL ISSUES, MENTAL ISSUES AS FAR AS TRAINING PHYSICAL BARRIERS. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAD MASSIVE STROKES YEARS AGO THAT THEN TRAIN WITH US EVERY DAY AT 830 RIGHT NOW. SO OUR OUR GYM IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GROW AND HEAL AND TRANSFORM. 
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AND THE VISION FOR DALLAS TRAINING COLLECTIVE IS TO STAY IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND. WE HAVE BEEN AT SIXTH IN A RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FOR 17 YEARS. USED TO SAY ALL YOU NEED IS FIVE CLIENTS. AND THAT'S GROWN. THAT'S GROWN THROUGH INITIATIVES WITH THE CITY. WE HAD A PROGRAM I KEEP SAYING WE. AND I GOT TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO ROB. ROB HAD A PROGRAM WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND. HE HAD A PROGRAM WITH THE DALLAS FIREFIGHTERS. I'M SORRY, GARLAND FIREFIGHTERS. SEE, I TOLD YOU I'M NERVOUS. I'M GONNA MISSPEAK. AND THROUGH ALL THOSE PROGRAMS, WE JUST CONTINUED TO TO BUILD ROOTS AND REALLY DIG DEEP AND GROW AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, WE, WE LOVE BEING DOWNTOWN. WE TRULY DO. AND I WANT TO STAY HERE. OUR I HAVE SEEN THIS BUILDING SINCE I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD, AND I'VE JUST BEEN IN LOVE WITH IT. MY GOAL IS TO RESTORE AND PRESERVE THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THE CENTRAL FIRE STATION. I'M SORRY GUYS, I DON'T KNOW IT AS THE BOY SCOUT BUILDING, I KNOW IT AS THE FIRE STATION. OKAY, SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT. I WOULD LOVE IT TO I'D LOVE PEOPLE TO DRIVE BY AND NOT SEE DALLAS TRAINING COLLECTIVE. I LOVE THEM BE LIKE, OH, SHOOT, A GYM'S IN THERE. THAT'S SO COOL. THAT'S OUR VIBE. I DON'T NEED BIG SIGNAGE. I DON'T NEED ALL THAT STUFF. I WANT THEM TO SEE THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN THAT I GREW UP IN. WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH WILLIS WINTERS. WILLIS IS RUNNING THE TEXAS HISTORICAL PRESERVATION SOCIETY. PROBABLY GOT THAT NAME WRONG, BUT I'VE KNOWN WILLIS FOR 20 YEARS, AND HE'S HELPING ME WORK WITH THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT TO GET TAX CREDITS BACK. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LEAN ON YOU GUYS FOR KICKBACKS ON WHAT WE'RE BUILDING. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS ON OUR OWN. AND I'M PROBABLY GLAZING OVER SO MUCH STUFF, BUT HERE WE ARE. WE'RE IN IT. OUR OUR VISION FOR THE BUILDING, FOR HAVING THAT SPACE. WE'RE IN A REALLY NICE SPACE THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. LIKE WE LOVE BEING WHERE WE ARE AT SIX AND EIGHT. 
          IT'S JUST SMALL. IT'S SMALL. IT HAS WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CEILING CLEARANCE. WE CAN'T PUT SHOWERS IN. THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE TRAINED WITH US, THAT HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY, THAT WAS ALWAYS KIND OF LIKE, OH MAN, LIKE, THAT SUCKS. SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUT SHOWERS IN TO CONTINUE TO GROW. WE'VE BEEN GROWING SINCE COVID. YOU KNOW, OUR GYM HAS SURVIVED A LOT OF THINGS CONSTRUCTION, COVID, A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF. AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO GROW AND WE'RE DOING THAT WITHOUT DOING ADS. ACTUALLY, THE FIRST TIME IN FIVE YEARS THAT WE'VE RAN ADS STARTED SEVEN DAYS AGO, AND I'M HAVING TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY BECAUSE OUR SPACE RIGHT NOW IS SO SMALL. SO WHY THIS IMPACT MEANS SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS. COMMUNITY EVENTS, YOU KNOW, HOLIDAY OPEN GYM WORKOUTS. JUST THIS PAST MEMORIAL DAY, WE HAD 35 PEOPLE THAT AREN'T MEMBERS OF OUR GYM. COME TRAIN WITH US AND DO MEMORIAL DAY, MURPH, AND THEN HANG OUT IN ALL, 35 PEOPLE WALKED DOWN TO ROSSLYN AND GOT COFFEE. WE HAVE PEOPLE. WE DO THESE THINGS EVERY 90 DAYS, SO WE DO EVENTS LIKE THAT THAT BRING IN 50, 60, 70 PEOPLE TO THE EVENT. AND USUALLY HALF OF THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T CLIENTS OF OURS. WORKSHOPS. WE DO RUNNING WORKSHOPS, NUTRITION WORKSHOPS, ROWING MINDSET COACHING, SEO, AND MARKETING THINGS FOR OTHER GYM OWNERS. I RUN A PROGRAM CALLED DALLAS COACHING COLLECTIVE, WHERE I WORK WITH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT GYM OWNERS IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, AND WE GET TOGETHER AND WE TALK BEST PRACTICES AND WE PULL PEOPLE IN. 
          AND SO JUST TRYING TO GET THOSE PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR PEOPLE HERE, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT, YES, I HAVE A PHYSICAL THERAPIST THAT WANTS TO SIGN A FIVE YEAR LEASE, YOU KNOW, I'M ASSUMING YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT BUILDING USAGE. SO I'M GOING TO GO TO THE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR BUILDING ONE, WE COULD BE IN THERE AND USING IT. HONESTLY, WE'RE A CROSSFIT GYM. 
          LIKE WE COULD BE IN THERE TOMORROW. LIKE OUR PEOPLE WILL BE COOL IF THE AC IS NOT WORKING. ALL RIGHT, BABY, THAT'S SHOW BIZ. LET'S GO. YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE FINE. WE'VE TRAINED IN THE STREET DURING COVID, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN USE IT TORROW. WE CAN MODULARLY DO THIS CONSTRUCTION TO WHERE WE'RE IN AND GOING. THIS EXPANSION AS I'VE KIND OF LOST MY PLACE, THE, THE IMPACT WE HAD WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT ACQUIRING THIS PROPERTY, I SAID, WHAT IS THE CITY LOOKING FOR? AND YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR YOUNG ADULTS, FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING Y'ALL LISTED BEFORE I WAS. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S PULL THOSE PEOPLE. AT THE TIME, WE HAD 73 ACCOUNTS THAT WERE PAYING FOR OUR CORE COACHING PROGRAM. SO THAT'S OUR GENERAL MEMBERSHIP. THAT'S NOT COUNTING PERSONAL TRAINING. IT'S NOT COUNTING OUR PERFORMANCE TRAINING, OUR KIDS TRAINING, NUTRITION, ALL THOSE THINGS. OF THOSE ACCOUNTS, 37 WERE FAMILIES. IN THOSE 37 FAMILIES. ONLY THREE OF THEM LIVE WITHIN TWO MILE RADIUS OF DOWNTOWN GARLAND. AND THOSE 37 FAMILIES SPENT ON AVERAGE, $4,400 A WEEK. THAT'S $230,000 
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ANNUALLY IN DOWNTOWN. AND WHEN I HAD THEM MAP IT, I SAID, I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO. I WANT YOU TO JUST DO THE SQUARE. SO IF YOU WENT TO HUBBARD'S BACK IN THE DAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WENT. NO, JUST THE SQUARE. WHERE ARE YOU SPENDING ON THE SQUARE? SO ROSALIND'S NOW, FORTUNATE SON. INTRINSIC. ALL THOSE PROXY, ALL THOSE PLACES, OUR PROJECTIONS BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE MARKET, WITH GYMS LIKE OURS, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH OUR BRAND BEING A 17 YEAR BUSINESS. WHEN WE START PUTTING AD SPEND BEHIND GROWTH, WE ARE PROJECTING IN A YEAR 111 FAMILIES. THAT'S $13,200 WEEKLY. THAT'S $686,000 A YEAR IN FIVE YEARS. THOSE PROJECTIONS ARE TO BE APPROXIMATELY AROUND 300 FAMILIES. THAT WOULD BE ALMOST $1 MILLION, WHICH IS KIND OF CRAZY. AND SO I THINK THAT IMPACT IS COOL. I SAW SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE LIKE, MAN, THAT'S JUST GREAT FOR THAT GYM. NO, THAT'S GREAT FOR DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE BRING PEOPLE YEAR ROUND, WE C CREATE RECURRING TRAFFIC. OUR MEMBERS VISIT DOWNTOWN NOT ONCE A MONTH, NOT FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, 3 TO 5 TIMES A WEEK, 3 TO 5 TIMES A WEEK. THEY'RE GETTING COFFEE AFTER CLASS. THEY'RE GOING TO FORTUNATE SON. GROWTH IN FIVE YEARS IS PROJECTED TO BRING 900 TO 1500 VISITS PER WEEK OF RECURRING SHOPPERS WITH THE MONEY TO SHOP. I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE. WE ARE NOT THE CHEAPEST GYM, SO PEOPLE THAT TRAIN AT OUR GYM HAVE THE MONEY TO GO SHOP DOWNTOWN. REPEAT CUSTOMERS GENERATE 60% OF RESTAURANT REVENUE, AND THEN RETURNING GUESTS ARE WORTH 26 TIMES MORE REVENUE THAN ONE TIME VISITORS AND A 5% RETENTION RATE FOR RESTAURANTS YIELDS A 25% REVENUE INCREASE OR MORE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE LEFT, SO I THINK I PULLED ALL THE HEARTSTRINGS. I THINK I'VE HIT THE ECONOMIC THINGS. WE CAN GO INTO QUESTIONS. I'M COOL WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. SO THIS IS OUR BABY. WE'D LOVE TO STAY DOWNTOWN AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. AND THANKS FOR CONSIDERING US. AND YEAH. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS. THEN WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON'S FIRST UP, JUSTIN. HEY, FIRST, I LOVE THAT YOU ARE ALREADY A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS. I THINK THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP YOU GUYS DOWNTOWN, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION. IS THERE ANY OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE AREA THAT YOU GUYS HAVE LOOKED AT? YEAH, WE'VE LOOKED AT A FEW. I'D LOVE TO STAY AS CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN AS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR ONE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR MEMBERSHIP DOES NOT LIVE IN GARLAND. SO IT'S KIND OF COOL PULLING, PULLING MONEY FROM RICHARDSON AND ROWLETT AND ROCKWALL, EAST DALLAS AND BRINGING THOSE DOLLARS IN. SO TRACKING THAT, THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING. I, I LIKE STAYING DOWNTOWN JUST BECAUSE OF THE FAMILIARITY, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTIONS, THE NETWORK THAT WE HAVE. OUR GYM MODEL IS NOT LIKE THE GRUNGY CROSSFIT GYM MODEL OR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I SAID LIKE, YO, WE COULD BE IN THERE. YEAH, WE COULD BE ROUGH, DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT WE HAVE A NICE PLACE. WE HAVE HVAC, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NICE BATHROOMS. IT'S CLEAN IN THERE. WHEN PEOPLE COME IN, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THIS IS THIS IS NOT A NORMAL CROSSFIT BOX. IT'S LIKE, YEAH, LIKE WE, WE WANT A NICE SPOT. AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO BUILD THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE'VE BUILT OVER THE LAST 17 YEARS. YOU KNOW, SO SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AS SOON AS JUST BEING TRANSPARENT, AS SOON AS WE START GETTING LIKE SHOWING INTEREST, THE LIST PRICE THEN INCREASES AND THEN WE START GETTING INTO ACTUALLY, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE WERE UNDER CONTRACT WITH TWO DIFFERENT PLACES VERY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN. AND BOTH TIMES I'VE BEEN UNDER CONTRACT, I STAY UNDER CONTRACT. BOTH TIMES WHEN I'VE SUBMITTED MY LOI, THEN I GET BACK A WELL, HEY, ACTUALLY TALK TO ANOTHER GYM THAT'S KIND OF LIKE YOURS. AND I THINK WE WANT TO GO HIGHER. I'M LIKE, THAT'S SO SILLY. SO, YOU KNOW, FUN STUFF. OKAY, SO I KNOW THE BIG THING FOR THE SQUARE PROPER OR IN THAT VICINITY IS NEW FOOT TRAFFIC. YES. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT OTHER PLACES THAT WOULD OFFER A LARGER FOOT TRAFFIC, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A NEW FIRST TIME PERSON, WHATEVER. 
          AND I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT LIKE DOING THE EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR BEST SHOT AT GETTING A STEADY FLOW OF NEW FOOT TRAFFIC IN THE AREA? YEAH. SO WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WOULD WANT TO THIS, THIS MOUSE WORK. THIS LITTLE 
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SHOP HERE WILL BE SPOTLIGHT PHYSICAL THERAPY. AND THEN AROUND THE CORNER WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A WALK UP WINDOW FOR AN ACAI BOWL. AND BOTH THE PLACES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE IS IN EAST DALLAS, AND THE OTHER ONE IS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD BRAND AND THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD POOL. SO THAT'LL JUST BE KIND OF LIKE ONE WAY TO LIKE THROUGHOUT THE DAY, ACTIVATE THE SPACE. AND THEN WE JUST STARTED WORKING WITH OUR RETAIL PARTNER TO LOOK AT ACTIVATING OUR RETAIL SHOP THROUGHOUT THE DAY. SO WITH OUR REBRAND, WE KIND OF HAVE SOME REALLY COOL SWAG NOW. SO IF YOU WANT TO DALLAS TRAINING COLLECTIVE SHIRT, HIT ME UP. I GOT YOU GUYS 50% OFF JUST FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM. SO YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          BUT THAT'S ONLY GOING TO LAST LIKE A WEEK. SO DON'T DON'T CATCH ME IN THREE WEEKS AND THEN WANT THAT. BUT SO WE WERE LOOKING AT THEN ACTIVATING, WE PARTNERED WITH, LET'S SAY PARTNERED WITH. WE'RE NOW A VENDOR WITH ONYX COFFEE. AND SO WE HAVE ONYX COFFEE COMING IN AND NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO UNDERCUT ROSLYN'S, BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO SELL LIKE COFFEE PACKAGES WITH DIFFERENT APPAREL AND DIFFERENT LIKE, LIKE TIER. AND THEN LSCD ARE BOTH LIKE APPAREL BRANDS IN THE CROSSFIT SPACE. SO THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO USE OUR DTC STUFF, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME JUST KIND OF LIKE EVERGREEN RETAIL THINGS. THANK YOU. YEAH, I LIKE YOUR FRAMES, BY THE WAY. THOSE ARE COOL. MAYOR PRO TEM LOOK, JUSTIN, SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU. I REMEMBER WORKING OUT DURING COVID. IT WAS IT WAS CRAZY. YES IT WAS. 
          SO THAT THAT SECOND STORY I KNOW YOU JUST WENT INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE RETAIL. 
          THAT'S THAT'S A VERY LARGE SPACE FOR, FOR JUST RETAIL. SO ARE YOU CONSIDERING ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON UP THERE? YES. ON THE, ON THE RIGHT HERE. THIS WHOLE ROOM HERE WOULD BE A SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A PODCAST THAT HAS 11 LISTENERS. SO ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU SUBSCRIBE, WE'LL EXTEND THAT DISCOUNT ANOTHER WEEK. THE UNTITLED COACHING PODCAST, SHAMELESS PLUG. SO THAT WOULD BE A RECORDING SPACE THAT WE WOULD DO AS WELL AS A CONFERENCE SPACE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED AS AN ENTREPRENEUR IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IS IT'S REALLY FUN TO HAVE MEETINGS ON YOUR GYM FLOOR AND PEOPLE SLAM BARBELLS. AND SO I WAS LIKE, I NEED A SPACE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE MEETINGS FOR OUR COACHING COLLECTIVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND ALL THE OTHER GYM OWNERS THAT I'VE TALKED TO, LIKE, MAN, YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF THE SPACES I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE LIKE A RECORDING SPACE, A CONFERENCE SPACE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT SET UP ON OUR ONLINE RETAIL SHOP WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY RENT THAT SPACE AHEAD OF TIME. THERE'S A COOL KITCHEN OVER THERE. WE'VE GOT A NICE LITTLE LAYOUT SET UP FOR IT, SO IT'LL BE COOL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. NO PROBLEM. COUNCILMEMBER CARAWAY. HI, JUSTIN. NUMBER ONE. I DID GO TO SOUTH GARLAND, SO I SAID IT. I KNOW YOU KNOW, BUT Y'ALL DIDN'T DO US LIKE THAT WHEN I WAS. TO SHADY. BUT MY QUESTION IS IN REGARDS TO YOUR MONTHLY COST, THE 259 IS THAT PER FAMILY OR IS THAT PER MEMBER. IT'S IT'S PER ACCOUNT. YEAH. AND SO WITH THAT EVERYONE GETS INDIVIDUALIZED COACHING. OH MAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT LITTLE PLUG FOR ANYBODY. HERE WE GO. YEAH. EVERYBODY GETS INDIVIDUALIZED COACHING. ONE OF THE THINGS IN A CROSSFIT GYM THAT WE SAW WAS JUST AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY. WHEN COVID HIT, WE WE GOT ON A ZOOM CALL AND ROBERT AND I WERE LIKE, HOW DO WE KEEP OUR PEOPLE ENGAGED? SO ROBERT MADE ME AND ANOTHER COACH CALL EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE GYM AND BE LIKE, YOU SET THIS GOAL. WHY HAVE YOU NOT REACHED IT? I WAS LIKE, WELL, WE WORK ON THIS, THIS AND THIS. AND YES, I'M GETTING FITTER. AND WE'RE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A SPECIALIZED PROGRAM WHILE WE CAN'T TRAIN AND WE'RE G GOING TO HIT THAT GOAL. SO THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO NOW. SO THE LAST FOUR YEARS, EVERYBODY'S ON ROSTER. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN TRACK. WE COACH PEOPLE IN PHYSICAL TRAINING, THEIR SUSTENANCE, THEIR SLEEP, THEIR STRESS, THEIR MINDSET, AND THEN THEIR SOCIAL LIFE. AND SO THOSE SIX AREAS OF HEALTH, WE FEEL WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE MINIMUM EFFECTIVE DOSE. AND SO IF YOU WERE WORKING WITH ME, WHICH, HEY, THAT 50% OFF, IF YOU WERE WORKING WITH ME, YOU AND I WOULD SET UP A COUPLE INTRO SESSIONS ON THE FRONT END. YOU WOULD TRAIN IN CLASS FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN ON DAY 30, WE'D WE'D GET COFFEE, WE'D GO THROUGH THOSE SIX AREAS OF HEALTH. YOU WOULD GRADE THEM ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10, THE THING YOU GRADED THE LOWEST. I MIGHT HAVE SOME PUSHBACK, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT THING AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT. ALL RIGHT, JUSTIN, GREAT. GREAT NAME. BY THE WAY, WHAT'S THE MINIMUM EFFECTIVE DOSE THAT WE CAN DO IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO GET YOU CLOSER TO YOUR GOALS? AND WE JUST REPEAT, REPEAT THAT PROCESS. SO MY COACHES GET PAID OFF THE ROSTER. SO WE DON'T DO LIKE FAMILY ACCOUNTS WHERE NOW I'M 
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REALIZING YOU PROBABLY ASKED THAT QUESTION TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE NUMBERS, AND I'M JUST PICKING MY GYM, BUT HERE WE GO. BUT SO THAT ACCOUNT IS PER PERSON, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT'S A LONG WAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. AND I'LL TELL I'M NERVOUS. THIS IS SO FUN. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO DO YOU OFFER A VIRTUAL OPTION FOR YOUR GYM? YEAH, WE COULD DO REMOTE COACHING. WE'VE DONE THAT FOR A LONG TIME. SO IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE. BUT WE DO HAVE ABOUT TEN ACCOUNTS THAT DON'T TRAIN AT THE GYM IN PERSON. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? I SEE NONE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. THIS IS OUR LAST ONE AND IT'S CALLED STATION ONE. AND I'M GOING TO INVITE TOM DANOFF TO COME UP AND GIVE YOU HIS VISION. JUSTIN'S A DAMN GOOD COACH. I KNOW YOU GET IN THE MIDDLE. I CAN'T OPERATE THE MACHINE. OH, OKAY. I'M AN APPLE GUY. MAYOR, COUNCIL AND ALL YOU FOLKS OVER THERE WHO ARE INTERESTED. THANK YOU. I WAS STANDING IN THE BACK WATCHING ALL THIS STUFF AND SMILING. I CAN I'VE BEEN IN INVOLVED IN DOWNTOWN GARLAND FOR SEVEN YEARS, AND I CAN REMEMBER IT WAS LIKE PULLING TEETH TO GET PEOPLE TO BE INTERESTED IN US. AND IT MAKES MAKES ME REALLY PROUD OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT TO BE A PART OF WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE. SO I THINK IT'S TERRIFIC. ANYWAY, MY NAME IS TOM DANOFF. I THINK I'LL START OUT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A RESUME FOR YOU FOLKS WHO I HAVEN'T MET YET. IN TWO 2019, TRACY AT THE PROXY TOLD ME ABOUT THIS PLACE CALLED DOWNTOWN GARLAND, WHERE SHE OPENED A SHOP AND I CAME DOWN HERE. AND I LOVE HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND ARCHITECTURE, AND I ENDED UP BUYING 113 NORTH SIXTH STREET. IT WAS THE OLD ODDFELLOWS LODGE. IT WAS MCGILLICUDDY'S AT ONE TIME AND WE RENOVATED IT. AND WE HAVE IN THERE NOW WE HAVE DEAD WAX RECORDS DOWNSTAIRS. WE HAVE INTO THE WELL COLLECTIVE UPSTAIRS. WE THEN WENT AND BOUGHT FROM. GARLAND FURNITURE. 
          WE BOUGHT 500 MAIN STREET. WE RENOVATED THAT. WE BROUGHT IN FORTUNATE SON PIZZA IN STATE AND MAIN MERCHANTS. AND WE ALL KNOW HOW FORTUNATE SON HAS SORT OF TRANSFORMED THE SQUARE FOR US, AND IT'S BEEN KIND OF TERRIFIC. THEN WE WENT AND BOUGHT 708 MAIN STREET AND 716 708 MAIN STREET IS THE OLD GLASS BOX BUILDING NEXT TO TACO VINO, AND IT'S GOING TO BE LOLA'S, AND THEY EXPECT TO OPEN IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS, WHICH IS REALLY COOL. 716 HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A BURDEN BECAUSE OF THE LIQUOR LAWS, BUT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH AN EVENT SPACE AND A RETAIL SPACE AT 716, SO IT IS PROGRESSING. ALL OF MY BUILDINGS ARE HISTORIC. I LOVE THEM ALL. I LOVE, I LOVE THE HISTORY OF IT. I LOVE THE RESPECT THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THEM. AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO THAT WITH THE THE BOY SCOUT BUILDING IN 2002, THE FIRST BUILDING, WE DID IT AT THE DEAD WAX RECORD, IS WAS ONE OF THE THREE FINALISTS FOR TOP RENOVATIONS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND LETITIA WAS HERE. AND WE WERE VERY, VERY PROUD OF THAT. AND I THINK THAT THE BUILDINGS RESPECT FOR THE BUILDINGS AND THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDINGS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I SPOKE WITH OUR IDEA. THIS ONE. 
          THIS IS A BASIC RENDERING OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING HAPPENING HERE. WE ARE ONE OF THOSE FOLKS WHO WANT TO GET RID OF THE BATHROOM. WE OWN 500 MAIN STREET. THE THE PATIO AT 500 MAIN STREET IS PLATINUM TO GOLD. WHEN YOU HAVE A PATIO IN A DOWNTOWN AREA, PEOPLE WANT TO SIT ON THE PATIO. WHEN PEOPLE GO TO FORTUNATE SON, THEY WAIT LONGER TO SIT ON THE PATIO. SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE AN AMAZING SQUARE, THE PATIO IS WORTH IS WORTH ITS WEIGHT IN PLATINUM. 
          IT'S REALLY A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO. WE WANT TO EMBRACE THE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING. I TALKED TO JUSTIN WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. WE WANT TO DO THINGS LIKE KEEP THE ROLL UP DOORS, BUT WE WANT THEM TO BE RED, LIKE FIRE STATION RED. WE WANT A FIRE POLE IN THE BUILDING ITSELF. OH, I SHOULD PROBABLY ADD THIS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A RESTAURANT IN DOWNSTAIRS, A SPEAKEASY UPSTAIRS, AS WELL AS AN ART GALLERY UPSTAIRS. SO WE WANT THE FIRE POLE. WE WANT THE RED ROLL UP DOORS. IT WAS TALKED ABOUT HAVING A MURAL. WE HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA UP THERE. 
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WE SEE A GOLD LADDER. THERE'S A GENTLEMAN OUT OF HOUSTON WHO'S A FRIEND OF MINE. HIS NAME IS JACK MASSING. HE IS A WELL RESPECTED ARTIST. AND WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IS BUILDING A APPROXIMATELY 50 FOOT GOLD LADDER, WHICH PAYS TRIBUTE TO FALLEN FIRST RESPONDERS. THIS IS TWOFOLD. ONE, AMY ROSENTHAL AND I WORK A LOT. I HAVE AN ART COLLECTION, I LOVE ART. AMY'S BEEN A FRIEND OF MINE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND ART IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO A DOWNTOWN. 
          THE IDEA OF THIS LADDER IS TWOFOLD. ONE, AN ART PIECE. WE HAVE IT ON THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'VE CHANGED IT TO MAKE IT MORE OF A FREE FLOATING THING INSTEAD OF A MURAL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SEE 360. YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE SQUARE, YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SIDE STREETS. IT'S WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING IT NEON. IT'S A DRAW. NOT ONLY IS IT AN ART PIECE, IT'S A REASON TO WALK A BLOCK. THE PEOPLE AT TACO VINO WILL TELL YOU HOW THEY. WE TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. JIMMY AND I, HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE TO WALK TWO BLOCKS AWAY? WELL, WE THINK IF WE MAKE IT AN ART PIECE, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT PEOPLE WILL BE CURIOUS ABOUT. WALK DOWN THERE AND THEY WILL SEE THE OTHER, THE RESTAURANT, THE SPEAKEASY AND THE GALLERY. I WANT TO PASS IT OFF TO CHRIS. HE'S THE GALLERIST WHO IS VERY WELL KNOWN IN DALLAS, IN THE FORT WORTH AREA, AND HAS TAKEN AN INTEREST. HI, HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND SORRY, I'M SUPER NERVOUS. SO THE THE BANKHEAD CULTURAL DISTRICT EXISTS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE Y'ALL AND AND HOW MUCH YOU HAVE INVESTED INTO THE ARTS AND THE CULTURE AND THE COMMUNITY OF THIS AREA. AND SO WE'D BE HONORED TO BE TO HELP BUILD ON THAT FOUNDATION AND CREATE NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL ARTISTS. I'D LIKE TO BRING IN REGIONAL AND NATIONAL EXHIBITS FROM ARTISTS AND INTRODUCE NEW AUDIENCES TO GARLAND. I'M CRYSTAL WELLING UP. FOR 25 YEARS, I'VE HELPED MERCHANDISE AND BRAND ARTISTS AND A TOURISM FOCUSED ARTIST SHOP IN DEEP ELLUM, AND OUR VISION FOR THEALLE IS T HOST IMMERSIVE EVENTS, CREATE. CREATING ONGNGNGOING OPPPPPPORTS REGIONAL AND NATIONAL STORY MEDIA. WE BELIEVE CULTURAL DESTINATIONS ARE BUILT THROUGH COLLABORATION, AND SO OUR HOPE IS TO CONTRIBUTE TO AMPLIFYING THE MOMENM ALREADY PRESENT HERE IN THE BANKHEAD AND INSPIRE MORE PEOPLE TO DISCOVER WHAT MAKES THEM SO SPECIAL. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. COULD YOU GO BACK TO ONE OF THE GALLBLADDER? YEAH, SOMETHING MORE LIKE THAT. JUST SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA. IF YOU'RE STANDING AT THE SQUARE, SAY YOU'RE AT MAIN STREET AND SIXTH STREET, AND YOU SEE THIS THING GLOWING AND IT'LL GLOW AT NIGHT. BUT THAT'S THE SORT OF DRAW WE'RE LOOKING AT AND CONSIDERING THE GALLERY. WHEN WE HAVE THE OPENING OF THIS, WE WILL DO AN EXHIBIT OF THE SIX MONTHS IT TOOK TO CONCEIVE AND CONSTRUCT THE PIECE. NOW, WE'D LIKE TO TALK. JOEL, I'M GOING TO BRING UP MY MARKETING MANAGER, MR. PABLO. HE'S. WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE TEAM, BUT I ONLY BROUGHT US TWO. AND. CHRIS. BUT YEAH, I'LL LET HIM SPEAK. 
          HI, GUYS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. SO WE WERE APPROACHED TO CREATE THIS CONCEPT. WE WERE JUST GIVING THE THE FACT THAT IT WAS A, A FIRE STATION. SO WERE LIKE THINKING, WHAT SHOULD WE DO? SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS CONCEPT. IT'S CALLED AUTHENTIC MEXICAN BARBECUE. CARNITAS IS BASED ON THE FIRE WE WANT. CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE? YES. WE WANT TO CREATE A WHOLE EXPERIENCE IS NOT JUST A RESTAURANT. WE ARE CREATING AN EXPERIENCE WHERE WE ARE SERVING OPEN FIRE MEATS. WE ARE THINKING ON CARNITAS, BARBACOA, GRILLED CHICKEN, THESE. SO WE ARE THREE THINGS. THIS ONE IS AUTHENTIC. SO IT WILL BE LIKE REAL MEXICAN. THEN WE HAVE THE THE ART GALLERY. AND THIRD, WE HAVE A SPEAKEASY. THE FEEL OF OF THE SPEAKEASY IS NOW MEXICAN. 
          IT IS REALLY, REALLY COOL. ACTUALLY, JOEL CAME UP WITH THE CONCEPT. IF YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT ONE. SO DUNCAN EMBRY IS A CORRELATION OF THE FIRST TWO TOWNS THAT STARTED GARLAND. WE'RE WE'RE NOT FROM GARLAND, BUT WE HAVE ACTUALLY KIND OF ENJOYED IT. I GO TO THE DOG PARK A LOT HERE AND IT'S AMAZING. AND THEN WE COME HERE QUITE A BIT. AND THE GUYS FROM GOOD FRIENDS ARE GOOD FRIENDS OF MINE TOO, BECAUSE I HAVE A RESTAURANT AND OR WE HAVE A RESTAURANT IN EAST DALLAS. SO WE, WE KIND OF LIVE THERE AND, AND PROVIDE A LOT OF STUFF THERE. SO ONE THING WE SAW HERE WAS THERE'S NOT REALLY A DATE NIGHT SPOT FOR YOU GUYS HERE OR FOR, FOR GARLAND. EVERYONE HAS TO GO EITHER TO GOLDIE'S OR LOUNGE HERE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BRING HERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN COME IN AND YOU GUYS CAN HAVE YOUR MEETINGS HERE OR, OR IN DUCK AND EMERY, YOU CAN HAVE DATE NIGHT. AND THE REASON WHY DATE NIGHT WORKS IS BECAUSE WE ALSO ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE TRAP DOORS WITH A GALLERY, AND YOU 
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COULD SIT DOWN AND ENJOY THE ART WHILE YOU TAKE A SIP AND LISTEN TO ACOUSTIC MUSIC OR SOMETHING, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT ROMANTIC OR SOMETHING QUIET, AND JUST REALLY BRINGS IN THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN GAS THAT HAVE THAT WE HAVE NOW, OR UBER OR ANYTHING. OR YOU COULD SPEND AN EXTRA 30 MINUTES ON DATE NIGHT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO, YOU KNOW, GET THE BABYSITTER OUT AND TAKE THEM OVER TO, YOU KNOW, GET THE KIDS AND STUFF. SO YOU GET THAT EXTRA 30 MINUTES OF JUST TIME TO SPEND WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IS HOW DO WE KEEP PEOPLE DOWNTOWN? YOU GO SOMETHING AT THE PLAZA. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO DRIVE TO EAST DALLAS ANYMORE WITH WITH THE SPEAKEASY. THEY CAN STAY THERE. WE CAN KEEP THE DOLLARS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND BRING OTHERS TO. EXACTLY. IT'LL BE A DESTINATION FOR OTHER PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A THE FIRE POLE IN THERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A A DUMBWAITER THAT TAKES FOODS, YOU KNOW, SNACKS OR WHATEVER THAT THEY PREPARE TO, WHICH WILL SOLVE THE ADA RULE. YEAH, EXACTLY. SO THAT'LL HAVE THAT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. AND THEN ALSO WE COME FROM JAMES BEARD NOMINATED BARS. SO WE HAVE THAT WITH US. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING OVER TO YOU TO TO GARLAND IS JUST THAT TYPE OF QUALITY THAT YOU WANT ON THE UPSTAIRS IS JUST THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT AS WELL, THAT JUST SOOTHING AND QUIET AND JUST PROVIDES A GOOD ENVIRONMENT FOR DATES AND, AND JUST TO TRY TO NETWORK AND HAVE SOME BUSINESS DONE. YEAH. HE, HE ONCE MENTIONED ME. HE WANTS TO MAKE IT LIKE A JOSE GARCIA DESTINATION WITH FORTUNATE SON. PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO TRY OUR PIZZA. 
          WE WANT THIS TO BE ANOTHER REFLECTION, A SECOND OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMETHING. AND WE SAW WHEN SOMEONE POSTED SOMETHING ON FACEBOOK ABOUT THERE'S A LOT OF MEXICAN FOOD AND I, I TOTALLY WENT WITH THEM ON THAT AND SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF TEX-MEX FOOD, THERE IS A LOT OF TEX-MEX FOOD HERE, AND WE DO NOT WANT TO COMPETE WITH THEM OR COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, STEP ON TOES ON THAT. WE ARE TRADITIONALLY A MEXICAN DRIVEN FOOD. AND THAT'S OUR CHEF OVER HERE, CHEF DANIEL. HE, HE HE'S GOING TO BE PRODUCING ALL THAT STUFF. I'M ALSO A CHEF, BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM THE REINS ON IT. JUST LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PIZZA CONCEPTS THAT WERE IN GARLAND. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATE SONS CAME AND THEY PROVIDED A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT OR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT PIZZA. WE WILL DO THE SAME WITH MEXICAN, NOT TEX-MEX. 
          IT'S MEXICAN. AND IT'S, IT'S A, A TRADITIONAL OLD SCHOOL STYLE OF MEXICAN, WHICH IS A SHOW. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING A SHOW AND A DESTINATION FOR EVERYONE THAT'S COMING IN. THIS IS GOING TO BE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE TORTILLA MACHINES COMING OUT AFRESH WITH A TORTILLA MACHINE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL LADIES JUST GRINDING AWAY ON THE PEPPERS AND EVERYTHING. SO YOU CAN SEE THE SALSA WHERE EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE SMOKING THE SAUSAGES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME DUCK, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE JUST REALLY GOOD PROTEINS COMING IN AND KIND OF CONSIDER LIKE A TERRY BLACK'S MEETS JOE T GARCIA'S. YEAH. THE IDEA IS TO DO LIKE THE TEXAS BARBECUE SETUP WHERE IT'S LIKE A SINGLE LANE BUTCHER BLOCK SIDES. YOU DO BY THE FOOD, BY THE POUND, BUT MEXICAN WAY SO OR MEXICAN FOOD, THAT'S LIKE KIND OF THE KEY, THE KEY ELEMENT. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE'LL HAVE A FULL TEQUILA BAR. WE THINK LIKE MARGARITAS. 
          CANTARITO AGUAS FRESCAS. THAT'S THE IDEA. SO THE IDEA IS NOT TO, TO HAVE A RESTAURANT IS TO HAVE A WHOLE EXPERIENCE WHERE ALL THREE PLACES COME ACROSS. AND ANOTHER THING WE'LL HAVE IS WE'RE GOING TO REALLY BE SPECIFIC ON BRUNCH. WE'LL HAVE MARIACHI BANDS. WE HAD THAT IN OUR OTHER CONCEPT, BUT DEEP ELLUM HAD CHANGED AND SWITCHED OVER TO ANOTHER ENVIRONMENT THAT WE DIDN'T LIKE. SO WE SHUT THAT DOWN. WE. IT WAS IT WAS DOING WELL. IT JUST I HATED THE SECURITY THAT WE HAD TO PAY AND JUST THE, THE LIABILITY WAS JUST INSANE. OUR INSURANCE WENT UP TOO MUCH BECAUSE OF THE, THE CONSTANT CRIME THAT WAS THERE. SO IT WAS JUST NOT SOMETHING WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONCEPT THERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT. BUT JUST ELEVATE IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL. AND THAT IN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT OUTSIDE FIRE. BUT THE MARIACHI BAND BRINGS IN SO MUCH. WE. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS THING ON CHRISTMAS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY YET BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO STEAL IT. BUT BUT THAT THAT ALONE, THAT CHRISTMAS THING WE DO, THE POP UP THAT WE DO BRINGS IN $2.8 MILLION WAS LAST YEAR, JUST IN THOSE THREE MONTHS, $2.8 MILLION. AND WE WERE GOING TO BRING IT HERE. YOU GUYS ALREADY DO A CHRISTMAS THING. SO IT KIND OF CORRELATES TO IT. IT'LL JUST KIND OF HAVE THAT SYNERGY WITH THE BLOCK AND THEN THAT THAT CITY THERE. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT DOING THAT. IT'LL COME LIKE ON THE LOW END. I ALWAYS LIKE TO PROJECT LOW. SO I DON'T LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO OVER DELIVER, YOU KNOW, AND PROMISE LOW. SO WE'RE PROJECTING 1.2 OR 1 .1.2 ON THE. I DID THE 
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COMBINED REVENUE OF SORRY, LET'S GO THAT PART. OH WE DIDN'T PUT THAT IN HERE. OKAY. 
          OH IT'S NOT IN THERE. SO WE HAVE 1.2 ON THE SECOND YEAR. BUT I DIDN'T INCLUDE THE SPEAKEASY. SO I'M GOING TO INCLUDE THAT IN THERE. ON THE REVENUE NUMBERS. IT'S 1.2 IS ON OUR FIRST YEAR ON REVENUE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE SOMEWHERE AROUND LIKE WHAT, 37,000 ON TAX, CITY TAXES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IF WE DO THAT ONE SPLIT, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO DO EVEN MORE WITH YOU GUYS AND GIVE MORE MONEY IF WE CAN. WE WE ALREADY HAVE OTHER RESTAURANTS, WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESSES. SO WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT, WE'RE ABLE TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU GUYTOO, IN THAT PROFIT, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE GREEDY. WE JUST WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IN DALLAS, WHICH IS OPEN FIRE COOKING. SO YEAH. AND THEN ALSO THE LATTER TO THE LATTER POINT. THE LATTER. WHAT WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME ON THE LATTER IS THE NAMES OF THE FALLEN SERVICE MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT ART PIECE. AND I THINK THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO HONOR. THE, THE BUILDING AND JUST, JUST THE HISTORY OF, OF GARLAND. AND THAT'S WHY WE DID THE DUCK AND AMBER THING. I REALLY LIKE BRINGING MY CONCEPTS INTO SOMETHING WHERE IT FLOWS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE AROUND IT. SO YEAH, GREAT. THANK YOU. SHARKS. I MEAN, COUNCILMAN, SORRY. ALL RIGHT. GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER CUBAN FIRST OR. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON FIRST. I THINK IT'S GORGEOUS. I DON'T PERSONALLY CARE ABOUT THE RESTROOMS. I'VE GOT SOME SUGGESTIONS ON WHERE THEY COULD GO. I'M NOT SOLD ON THE MEXICAN. I'M SORRY. OKAY. BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE 50 ALREADY. IT'S LIKE ADDING ANOTHER CHURCH ON THE SQUARE. LIKE WE GOT PLENTY. SO I, I WOULD LOVE, LOVE TO SEE A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT STYLE OF FOOD OFFERED LIKE MEDITERRANEAN OR INDIAN OR. YEAH, NOTHING PERSONAL. SO THE UPSTAIRS WILL HAVE DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT MEXICAN, BUT THE. AND THEN THE CHICKEN IS A PERUVIAN STYLE CHICKEN. SO IT'S NOT ALL. IT'S NOT ALL JUST MEXICAN. IT'S MORE LATINO, IF YOU WILL. YEAH. WE'LL HAVE EMPANADAS AS WELL. 
          I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE THING IS THAT WHEN WE WERE, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR A RESTAURANT TO GO IN THERE, WE TALKED TO TWO DOZEN DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS. WE TALKED TO FRIED CHICKEN, WE TALKED TO SUSHI. WE TALKED TO ALL OF THEM. THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF A BUMP, A BRANDING PROBLEM TO COME INTO DOWNTOWN GARLAND. EVEN WITH THE SUCCESS OF FORTUNATE SON. AND WHAT I LOVED ABOUT JOEL IS FIRST, THE UNIQUENESS OF HIS CUISINE. BUT I ALSO LOVED THAT HE SEES WHAT WE SEE. HE SEES THAT IT'S A MARKET, THAT WHAT HE'S OFFERING IS DIFFERENT THAN TEX-MEX. IT'S A VERY UNIQUE THING. AND WE HAVE A POPULATION OF 53%, 43%, 31%. AND I THINK THAT THE MARKET IS THERE. I THINK IT IS. BUT I, I UNDERSTANDING WE TRIED AND THAT'S WHY HE STEPPED UP WITH US. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS I WAS A LITTLE I HAD YOUR CONCERN, RIGHT? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, ULTIMATELY IT'S, IT'S MY, MY OPERATION MONEY AND I, I'M, I'M RISK AVERSE AS WELL. LIKE I, I'M KIND OF, I GOT TO SEE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO PUT MONEY IN THIS THING. SO I SEE THAT TOO. BUT FOLLOWING THE STEPS OF FORTUNATE SONS ALSO HAD THAT CONCERN TOO, WITH THE PIZZA. BUT IT IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PIZZA. AND SO THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MEXICAN FOOD. IT'S NOT TEX-MEX. AND THERE'S A CLEAR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. CHEF CAN DO TEX-MEX, BUT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO JUST THE SMOKE, THE AROMA COMING OUT FROM THAT SMOKE. IT'S JUST IT'S ANOTHER SELLING POINT. THEY'LL SMELL IT ON THE SQUARE. IT'S INSANE. YEAH. IT'S INSANE. AND THE, AND THE, THE AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE, THINK ABOUT LIKE YOUR CHEF COOKING SHOWS, LIKE WHEN YOU WATCH THE CHEF COOKING SHOWS AND THEN MAKING ALL THE PROTEINS AND ALL THAT, YOU GET TO SEE THAT LIVE. WHO'S NOT GOING TO DRIVE AND GET TO SEE THAT LIVE OR WANT TO SEE THAT LIVE, YOU KNOW, THE TORTILLAS COMING IN, WE'RE GOING TO ENGINEER THIS HOOK WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE CARCASS AND YOU HOOK THE AND YOUIKE, RUN IT THROUGH THE I BEAM AND THEN IT'LL LAND INTO THE COSMOS, WHICH IS THAT THIS PART RIGHT HERE, IT'LL LAND INTO THIS. THE ARCHITECT. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING WE DID REALLY FAST. BUT YEAH, WE'LL HAVE THE, WE'LL HAVE A BIG SHOW COMING IN AND COMING IN AND THE OLD LADIES MAKING THE SALSA AND STUFF. THAT'S, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE FROM, FROM THE TEX-MEX, BUT IT'S MORE OAXACAN, IF YOU WILL. SURE. WELL, I'M GLAD THAT YOU DIDN'T END UP AT 716 BECAUSE THE TRACK IS ALREADY THERE. GOOD MEMORY. THAT'S MAYBE A LITTLE AWKWARD, YOU KNOW? YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS, I APPRECIATE IT. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. SO I THINK INITIALLY YOU 
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CAME THROUGH WITH A FRIED CHICKEN CONCEPT. AND I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I HAVE A GLUTEN ALLERGY AND I'M LIKE, I CAN'T EAT ANYTHING THERE. BUT I THINK THIS CONCEPT, NOT ONLY DOES IT MAGNIFY THE HUGE LATINO COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE HERE, BUT IT ALSO KIND OF IS A NOD TO BARBECUE, WHICH IS EXTREMELY POPULAR IN IN TEXAS. SO I, I REALLY DO LIKE THE CONCEPT. I LIKE THE OLD WORLD STYLE THAT YOU'VE PORTRAYED HERE. I'M, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THE RESTROOMS AND WHERE THOSE MIGHT GO. I THINK THOUGH, IF WE'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE FILLING MANY OF THESE RESTAURANTS OR BUILDINGS AND WITH ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE PATRONIZING, THOSE LOCATIONS WILL HAVE A PLACE TO USE THE RESTROOM. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL. I'VE BEEN I'VE WANTED A WHISKEY BAR FOR A LONG TIME. THAT'S WHAT THE SPEAKEASY, THE SPEAKEASY WILL BE 5050 ON THE BROWN AND THE WHITE SPIRITS AND AND OUR MIXOLOGIST IS JUST INSANE. LIKE HE HE'S BEEN VOTED QUITE A BIT, REALLY CLOSE TO GETTING THAT JAMES BEARD. BUT OUR PURPOSE HERE IS TO GET A STAR. LIKE WE WANT TO GET A STAR AND MAYBE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATE SONS DO THE SAME THING. I KNOW THAT'S THEIR GOAL TO, TO GET AS FAR AS. SO WHY NOT HAVE A PRODUCT OR A CONCEPT THAT BRINGS STARS OVER TO THE BAR? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YEAH, I'D LOVE A STAR. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK IT'S A IT'S A REALLY AMAZING CONCEPT. OH, AND THE ART GALLERY, I'M SORRY, THE ART GALLERY PART. YEAH. I GOTTA TELL YOU, I MEAN, I, CHRIS IS SO WELL RESPECTED AND AMY ROSENTHAL IS SO EXCITED ABOUT HIM. AND THEY'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY CAN DO THINGS IN TANDEM. I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE BRING PEOPLE IN, NOT ONLY FROM THE DFW, BUT HOUSTON AND OTHER PLACES TO COME AND SEE WHAT CHRIS HAS TO OFFER. AND THEN THE FACT THAT THE SPEAKEASY GOES INTO THE ART ART GALLERY, AND YOU CAN JUST HAVE A DATE NIGHT AND ENJOY THAT ART PIECE. ALL THE ART THAT HE'S GOING TO CURATE IS JUST SUPER AMAZING. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU JUST HAVE LIKE SUCH A GREAT LITTLE DATE NIGHT. I WANT A PLACE I CAN TAKE MY GIRL SLOW DANCING. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ACOUSTIC MUSICIANS AND THERE'S A REALLY COOL BAR IN AUSTIN CALLED THE WHISTLER. AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW I'M GOING TO DO THE TOP PART. AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST A GUITAR AND A LADY JUST SINGING. THERE'S ARTISTS CALLED. THERE'S AN ARTIST CALLED GABE. 
          GABE LENHARD, AND IT'S KIND OF HOW I'LL DO THE SPEAKEASY, JUST VERY THICK, LIKE A KIND OF KIND OF STUFF THAT THICK WOOD AND LEATHER. WE HAVE AN AMAZING EVENT EVERY YEAR. DIA DE LOS MUERTOS, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED HOW HOW WONDERFUL IT'S BECOME. AND IT JUST GETS BETTER EVERY YEAR. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. YEAH. SO GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. GENTLEMEN. I JOB TRANSFER BROUGHT ME HERE FROM LOS ANGELES 15 YEARS AGO. 
          I WAS THERE FOR 30 YEARS. I CAN ABSOLUTE ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT MEXICAN FOOD IS NOT THE SAME AS TEX-MEX. IT'S GOT THE WORD MEX IN IT, AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL THAT THAT'S RELATED. 
          SO THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. DO NOT THINK THAT THEY WON'T BE COMPETING WITH THOSE BANDERAS. 
          SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM CALIFORNIA. SO SO YEAH, SO IF YOU YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE IN THE LA AREA, YOU GOT MEXICAN FOOD, NOT THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS TEX-MEX IN CALIFORNIA. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PATIO, TOM. I THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT IS PLATINUM TO GOLD. HAVING THAT KIND OF SPACE. AND FORTUNATE SON HAS PROVEN THAT. ANY OTHER PLANS FOR OUTDOOR SPACE? MAYBE THE ROOFTOP. ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? WE WENT UP ON THE ROOF AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT THE SQUARE. WHEN YOU GET ON THE ROOF AND YOU LOOK NORTH, ALL YOU SEE IS TPO ROOFS AND AIR CONDITIONING AND AIR CONDITIONING. AND IF YOU LOOK TO THE SOUTH, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE NEW SENIOR CENTER, WHICH IS COOL, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT ALLHAT MUCH. AND FOR US, IT WAS SORT OF KEEPING THE AUTHENTIC ASPECT OF THE BUILDING TO JUST KEEPING IT THERE AND GOING OUT INTO THE PATIO AREA. OKAY, WE COULD DOUBLE DECK THE PATIO MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW. WE'LL SEE WHAT THE PRICING IS ON IT, BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. YEAH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THE MORE OUTDOOR SPACE WE CAN HAVE. SURE. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S BETTER. AND, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATE SON HAS CERTAINLY PROVEN THAT OUT. AND YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES. THEY'RE REALLY PUT SOME TABLES, YOU KNOW, OUT FRONT. THE TAVERN TAVERN GARDENS HAS SOME AND 
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LOCKWOOD HAS SOME. AND THE IDEA THAT THE RED FIRE STATION DOORS WILL ROLL UP AND THAT WILL ADD THAT ASPECT AS WELL. THE TOUGH PART ABOUT IT IS THAT IT FACES WEST. AND SO IN THE EVENING IT'S YOU GET PUMMELED. YOU KNOW, FORTUNATE SON IS VERY FORTUNATE THAT IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR US. OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER CARAWAY. ONE THING THAT I DEFINITELY LIKE, AND I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS TOUCHED ON, IS HAVING A A DATE SPOT. THE SPEAKEASY. I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE FEEDBACK AND INFORMATION ON THAT. I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT CONCEPT. I LOVE THE FACT OF WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOUR IDEA IS WITH THAT. WHAT WOULD BE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATIONS WITH THAT? BECAUSE NORMALLY SPEAKEASIES ARE USUALLY, YOU KNOW, ALMOST LIKE A HIDDEN GEM, SO TO SPEAK. BUT I, I DEFINITELY LOVE THAT CONCEPT OF THE HOURS. AND IT WOULD BE A SPEAKEASY. GREAT POINT, GREAT POINT. YOU GOTTA NOW YOU GOTTA GET, YOU GOTTA GET THE CITY. 
          BUT LIKE, NO, I, I THINK IT'S ALL FLUID IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE WE GOT TO SEE WHAT THE MARKET ACCEPTS, RIGHT? SOUT FROM 5 TO 12, AND IF YOU GUYS ALLOW US TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO, TO MAYBE ON THE WEEKEND, WE'LL DO DEAL TOO. I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR THAT BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE COME, I'VE COME HERE QUITE A BIT. AND SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT. IN OUR EXPERIENCE AFTER 12 IT KIND OF BRINGS A BAD LIGHT INTO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE START OVERPOURING THEMSELVES AND STUFF LIKE WE WON'T ALLOW OVERPOUR. WE DON'T ALLOW THAT IN OUR OTHER CONCEPTS. WE ARE VERY STRICT ABOUT THAT. I DO NOT LIKE LAWSUITS. SO I'M VERY STRICT WITH THOSE THINGS AND I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE DYING OR ANYTHING. SO WE'RE VERY STRICT WITH OUR OVER POUOURS AND OUR CONCEPTS. BUT I THINK LIKE A 5 TO 12 WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD START OFF AND THEN IF THE MAN INCREASES, WE'LL DO THAT. HOWEVER, ON, ON THE 5 TO 12, THE PERFORMANCE SHOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYWHERE FROM 230, 230 TO HALF A MIL IN THAT MONTHLY. JUST ON THAT WITH YOU GUYS, BECAUSE I'M WE'RE DOING THERE ARE 18 COCKTAILS ON THE LOW END BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO USE HIGH SPIRITS AND JUICES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE WILL HAVE SENIOR SINGLE POUR SHOTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ECONOMICAL, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF PEOPLE COMING IN ANYWAYS. WE WANT IT TO REALLY BE A DATE NIGHT WHERE YOU GUYS REALLY, REALLY LOVE COMING IN THERE AND DANCE CAN SPEAK QUIETLY TO YOUR, TO YOUR SPOUSE OR TO YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER OR, OR HAVE A DEAL, MAKE, MAKE SOME DEALS THERE AND, AND DO SOME BUSINESS THERE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY QUAINT, VERY, VERY. JOSE. HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN TO JOSE'S DOWN IN OVER OVER LIKE IT'LL, IT'LL BE KIND OF THAT LIKE MEXICAN FEEL BECAUSE WE GOT TO STILL TIE IT INTO AUTHENTIC AND TO GOLD FANG. SO IT HAS TO BE KIND OF THAT DARKNESS IN THERE AND VERY, VERY, VERY ROMANTIC, A DARK, DARK REDS. WE'RE MESSING WITH THE IF YOU KNOW THE BUILDING, THERE'S TWO WAYS TO GET UPSTAIRS. THERE'S THE OAK STAIRS RIGHT UP THE MIDDLE WHEN YOU WALK IN, AND THEN THERE'S A FIRE ESCAPE IN THE BACK. AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MAKING THE FIRE ESCAPE IN THE ENTRANCE, THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO THE SPEAKEASY, BECAUSE YOU KIND OF HAVE TO GO DOWN AN ALLEYWAY TO GET TO IT. AND THAT'S PRETTY GROOVY. WE THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD CONCEPT. AND THEN IF ALLOWED THROUGH THE HISTORIC THING, I, MY OLD, MY, MY MOST FAMOUS CONCEPT THAT WAS OURS ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE INVESTORS IN OTHER CONCEPTS, BUT WE, OUR BUILDER HELPED US WITH THAT ONE, I THINK. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, BUT ANYWAYS, IT OPENED UP. WE, WE'RE GOING TO DO A SKYLINE THAT OPENS UP. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF, IF WE COULD DO THAT HISTORICALLY, WE CAN. BUT I DON'T KNOW ON THE ROOF. 
          BUT IT'LL OPEN UP. SO YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE THE SKY AND STUFF. YEAH. IT'S VERY ROMANTIC. IT'S SUPER ROMANTIC. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER MORE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GENTLEMEN, YOU ALL HAVE CERTAINLY CAUSED ALL OF US TO PERK UP AND LISTEN THIS EVENING. THIS IS MY FIFTH YEAR ON COUNCIL, AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF COMING THROUGH FIVE YEARS OF MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THIS DOWNTOWN AREA. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE WATCHED THIS OR NOT, BUT WE'VE HAD TO MAKE SOME VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SAY TODAY THAT THROUGHOUT ALL OF THOSE DIFFICULT DECISIONS, WE HAVE NOW ONE OF THE MOST THRIVING DOWNTOWN AREAS THAT ANYONE COULD HAVE EVER ASKED FOR. AND EVEN TONIGHT, AS I SIT HERE AND I LISTEN TO ALL OF THE 
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PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE COME BEFORE US. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US, THE COUNCIL, TO LISTEN TO ALL THESE GREAT IDEAS, AND PEOPLE ARE JUST EXCITED ABOUT COMING TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND TO HAVE TO SAY, BUT ONLY ONE OF YOU CAN HAVE IT. AND SO AS I LISTEN, I EVERYTHING THTHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR, I CAN JUST SIT HERE, IF YOU WILL JUST GO THROUGH YOUR PICTURES AGAIN. 
          JUST YEAH, JUST GO BACK, GO BACK RIGHT THERE. I MEAN, FOR ME, I'M KIND OF AN OLD ROMANTICIST AND. DATE NIGHT AND SITTING IN I'M A, I'M A, I'M A CHEF ALSO. I ENJOY COOKING, JUST SITTING AND WATCHING THE FOOD, BEING PREPARED AND ALL OF THOSE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AND THE ARTISTRY AND. JUST THE HISTORICAL ASPECT. IT'S ALL JUST RESONATES VERY WELL WITH ME AND BEING A CHEF. OF COURSE, WE BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT MEXICAN FOOD. THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN. AND ONCE THEY HEAR MIX IN IT, IT JUST IT'S MEXICAN FOOD. BUT YES, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT THERE IS CERTAINLY A DIFFERENCE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DO KNOW ABOUT THESE TYPES OF CONCEPTS, WHEN I STOP AND THINK ABOUT MEMPHIS AND I THINK ABOUT NASHVILLE, AND I THINK ABOUT ATLANTA AND ORLANDO AND LOS ANGELES, YOU GO INTO THESE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE THIS MAIN DRAG, THIS MAIN STREET WHERE EVERYTHING IS TAKING PLACE. YOU'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF RESTAURANTS AND THEY'RE ALL, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW. THE ONE THING WE DO KNOW, THE MARKET WILL CORRECT ITSELF. WE KNOW THAT FOR CERTAIN. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, OF COURSE, I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M THINKING TONIGHT THAT DON'T SPEND DEAREST IS NOT GOING TO LOSE THIS MARKET. DEL RANCHO IS NOT GOING TO LOSE THIS. I EAT IT BOTH OF THEM AND LOVE THEM, EACH ONE OF THEM. AND AS I THINK ABOUT YOU AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE YOUR MARKET. YOU'RE JUST GOING TO ENHANCE WHAT'S TAKING PLACE DOWNTOWN. 
          AND SO I SAY ALL OF THAT JUST TO SAY TO YOU TONIGHT THAT THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR COMPETING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING WITH THE CONCEPTS THAT YOU'VE COME WITH. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE THANK YOU THAT WHETHER YOU GET IT OR NOT, WHETHER YOU GET IT OR NOT, WE THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE APPEAL BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB IN YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. MARTIN, I THANK YOU AS WELL AS I'M AN IMMIGRANT, AN IMMIGRANT, AND FOR TOM AND COMPRESSED INTO THIS AND ALLOW US TO LIKE, JUST BE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS IS AN INSANELY AWESOME LIKE, YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A HARD THING BECAUSE LIKE, I NEVER THOUGHT I'D EVEN GET HERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE NEVER THOUGHT THAT. AND JUST FOR CHRIS AND TOM TO EVEN SAY, LIKE, DUDE, THIS IS THE ONE THAT ROCKED AS WELL. JUST TO THINK THOUGH, JUST, JUST LOOK AT LOOK AT THIS. I DON'T KNOW, DID YOU GO AI OR SOMETHING? I JUST TO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU BROUGHT THIS CONCEPT TOGETHER. I MEAN, THIS JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, BUT IT DOES. IT DOES. AND IT HAPPENS HERE IN GARLAND. YEAH. 100%. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT GARLAND. WE LOVE THE DIVERSITY. IT'S SO TERRIC. IT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO SPECIAL. 
          YES, SIR. YEAH. AFTER TOM TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THIS LIVE FIRE, YOU GUYS WOULD BE THE ONLY CITY WITHIN THE AREA THAT HAS THAT HAS ALLOWED FOR THIS. 
          AND IT'S SOMETHING SO DUMB BECAUSE BARBECUE IS BARBECUE AND THEY ALLOW BARBECUE PLACES TO DO THIS. AND JUST BECAUSE WE PUT BARBACOA ON IT, A LOT OF THE CITIES HAVE NOT ALLOWED US TO DO IT. AND IT'S DONE BECAUSE THIS IS BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S LIKE SUCH A GREAT WAY OF COOKING AND PROCESSING MEAT, AND IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL. AND THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO LIFT IT UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW IT AND IT'S GOING TO COME OUT. IT'S JUST SO ROMANTIC, SO AMAZING. IT'S LIKE IF YOU GUYS SEEN THOSE CHEF'S TABLE DOCUMENTARIES WHERE EVERYTHING'S SLO MO AND LIKE MUSIC, QUIT, STOP, STOP, DON'T DO THAT, DON'T DO THAT. STOP. IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE JOEL WANTS JOEL WANTS TO MAKE IT SO AUTHENTIC. HE SAID. HE ASKED, COULD WE HAVE LIVE CHICKENS RUNNING AROUND? AND WE TALKED TO ANDY AND ANDY. NO ROOSTER. YEAH, AND IT WAS FUNNY. ANDY SAID, I KNOW THE RESIDENTIAL RULE. I DON'T KNOW THE COMMERCIAL RULE. THE OTHER THING IS. YOU KNOW, THE REVENUE STREAMS LIKE THAT. YEAH, BUT I THINK ABOUT IT. MY IDEA IS WE HAVE A WE HAVE A PLAN FOR WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HERE. AND THAT'S WHY HISTORY IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR LOTS OF GREAT IDEAS. BUT IS IT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRULY TRYING TO DO WITH OUR DOWNTOWN AREA? YES. SO ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS A VERY EXCITING CONCEPT. I LIKE IT A LOT. AND IN FACT, ALL FOUR OF THESE. I 
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WISH WE HAD FOUR IDENTICAL BUILDINGS SO WE COULD HAVE ALL OF THEM. AND THAT MAKES A EXTREMELY DIFFICULT DECISION. BUT THIS IS A I I'M COMPELLED WITH THIS. THIS IS VERY, VERY, VERY INTERESTING. I MEAN, THE, THE HONORING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THE HONORING, THE, THE TYING EVERYTHING TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THE BUILDING WAS THE FIRE. AND IT'S VERY THOUGHTFUL. SO IT SHOWS US. SO I, I WISH EVERYBODY THE BEST OF LUCK AND THIS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT THIS ONE'S THIS ONE'S PRETTY COOL. WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE THE LATTER. WHEN WE WERE COMING UP WITH THAT IDEA, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HAVE LIKE A DAY WHERE WE HONOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND WE GO TO THAT LADDER. OR IF SOMEONE DOES FALL WHILE THEY'RE IN SERVICE, WE ETCH THEM INTO THE LADDER OR A PLAQUE IN THERE AND HAVE A MEMORIAL FOR THAT. I THINK THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO AS A COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO WITH THAT LADDER AND THAT STUFF. SO WELL. VERY THOUGHTFUL. I LIKE THE ART STUDIO, THE DATE NIGHT SPEAKEASY, THE ENTRANCE FROM THE ALLEYWAY. VERY, VERY CLEVER. 
          THAT'S GREAT. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, WELL, IT'S GONNA BE A HARD DECISION, BUT YOU KNOW, US MOVING FORWARD IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR GARLAND. I KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO REALLY ENHANCE OUR DOWNTOWN. QUITE A CHANGE. SO THANK YOU. THANKS GUYS. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. TO ECHO, COUNCILMAN MORSE AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM US. I AGREE THAT WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT PROPOSALS AND CONCEPTS. IT WILL BE A DIFFICULT DECISION FOR US, BUT I WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR QUESTION TO YOURS AS WELL. IF SELECTED, WHAT IS YOUR EXECUTION RISK AND HOW WOULD YOUR TEAM DO TO KEEP TRACK? KEEP IT ON TRACK? SO OUR BUILDERS AND WE HAVE TO WORK IN SYNERGY WITH THE CITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE TIMES THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED DELAYS, EITHER UTILITY TAP INS OR SOMETHING WITH, WITH HAVING TO DO WITH UTILITY OR, OR PLANS HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT MIXED UP WITH REVIEW. AND THEN ON FIELD INSPECTORS, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN OUR ISSUE. WHEN WE DO THAT, OUR BUILDER, OUR ARCHITECTS, ME, WE'RE VERY PATIENT. WE UNDERSTAND, I KNOW CODE UP AND DOWN. SO I'M PRETTY GOOD AT WELL VERSED AT ON FIELD STUFF. OUR BUILDER IS PRETTY WELL VERSED. WE HAVEXPERIENCE WITH FORTUNATE SON, FORTUNATE SON WITH THE DOWNTOWN MECHANICS, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN GARLAND MECHANICS AND THE INSPECTIONS AND ALL THAT STUFF. YEAH. SO WE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD COMPLETELY PUT EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO ON THE PLAN INITIALLY AND TALK IT OUT WITH REVIEW, MAKE SURE WE HAVE LIMITED VARIATIONS FROM THAT PLAN AND THEN EXECUTE ACCORDINGLY. AND IF, IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY IF THERE ARE ANY DELAYS, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T HELP US, TOM, OR ANY OF US TO TO HAVE A DELAY. SO WE WILL WORK DILIGENTLY TO OVERCOME THAT, THAT, THAT HURDLE THAT THAT COMES ACROSS. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF, OF HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE. AND WE HAD TOLD DANA ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 12 MONTHS, BUT JOEL FEELS THAT WE COULD BE 6 OR 8. I THINK WE COULD BUILD IT IN 6 OR 8. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER. HI THERE. MY FAMILY'S FROM MONTERREY, BUT MY HUSBAND'S FROM I SAW THAT I SAW THE CHEF, SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ARTIST. I SAW THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE MISSING THE RETAIL PART IN DOWNTOWN. YOU KNOW, I, I, I'M AFRAID SO. ARE WE LOOKING TO SELL SOME OF THE ART? HOW IS THAT GOING TO CAN YOU GROW THAT? AND I SAW THAT YOU HAVE AN ARTIST THAT WORKS WITH. MEOW. YES. I'VE BEEN TO THE VEGAS ONE AND THE COLORADO ONE, SO IT'S DEFINITELY UNIQUE. YEAH. THEIR ARTWORK, ART GALLERIES DON'T MAKE MONEY, YOU KNOW, SO OH, MY DAUGHTER JUST GRADUATED FROM ART SCHOOL, SO YOU'LL BE SUPPORTING HER FOR A WHILE. SO THE ONLY WAY, THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO GET ANY MONEY IS, IS TO HAVE A RETAIL ASPECT OF IT. AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE IT'S, IT'S BEEN ALIVE FOR US. SO IT'S, IT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE BUILDOUT OF THE RESTAURANT. AND SO, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS TO LIKE, THERE ARE IDEAS TO MAKE THINGS THAT CAN GO THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, SO THESE LITTLE ART EXHIBITS OR THESE LITTLE ART KIND OF LIKE THINGS THAT LIKE POP THROUGH THAT ARE A REMINDER OF THE SPACE. AND THEN LITTLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT, BUT LIKE KNICKKNACKS AND, BUT MORE LIKE SPATIAL, LIKE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE. SO TO DRAW PEOPLE OVER AND HOPEFULLY SPEND MONEY AND AT THE, AT THE GIFT SHOP. BUT 
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THE GIFT SHOP IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THE ART GALLERY MAKES MONEY. AND ART GALLERIES, JUST TRYING TO PLAY PAY A PUBLICIST TO, TO BASICALLY PROMOTE THE WHOLE AREA, THE SPACE, BUT THEN ALSO PROMOTE THE AREA AND, AND ALL THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT'S AT. AND WE FEEL I ALSO LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MIXING IN THE, THE SPEAKEASY WITH THE ART GALLERY IS I, I SEE US DOING IMPULSE BUYS WHEN, LET'S SAY YOU'RE ON A DATE NIGHT WITH, WITH YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER AND YOU HAVE A GREAT MOMENT WITH THEM. AND THE PIECE OF ART IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, I WANT TO REMEMBER THE NIGHT I HAD WITH YOU. I'M GOING TO BUY THIS. AND THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN 100%. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT EMOTIONAL DRAW WITH THAT ART AND THE DATE NIGHT, IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH. BUT THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO TIE IN SHOPPING AND AND SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE YOUR EXPERIENCE. YOU COME OUT AND TAKE HOME A MEMENTO WITH THE, WITH THE THING AND THEN HOPEFULLY SHARE THAT THAT ARTIST WITH OTHER PEOPLE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR PRO TEM, LOOK, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME BACK ON AGAIN A SECOND TIME TONIGHT. I THINK ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS I SEE IN THIS CONCEPT THAT I, I DID NOT SEE IN THE OTHERS EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE WEDDING VENUE IS THE ELEVATION OF OF YOUR CONCEPT, TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO GET A MICHELIN STAR AND ONLY SERVING REALLY HIGH END SPIRITS. THERE HAS BEEN SUCH A LONG TIME IN GARLAND WHERE PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED AT US IN A CERTAIN WAY AND, AND FOR YOU TO COME IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU ALL DESERVE THE BEST OF THE BEST. 
          IT MAKES MY HEART BEAT HARD. AND IT'S QUITE EMOTIONAL FOR ME BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS COME IN, WHERE THE GOAL IS TO IS TO REALLY ELEVATE EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED. SO THANK YOU. AND, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A TESTAMENT TO HOW FAR WE'VE COME IN THIS CITY. AND WHAT A FANTASTIC JOB EVERYONE HAS DONE ON THE SQUARE. SO THANK YOU. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. I MEAN, FOR WE HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. AND I WANT THIS ONE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST SO PEACEFUL. YOU DEEP ELLUM WAS CRAP AND HELL AND WE'RE WE THAT'S HOW WE KNOW EACH OTHER. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OTHER PLACES THAT WE HAVE. AND THIS IS JUST SO HOMEY. YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. YOU REALLY HAVE. AND TOM'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH HIS CURATING ON ON THE BUILDINGS. THIS IS. YEAH. WHEN WHEN CHRIS SENT IT TO ME, I ACTUALLY DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO DO ANY MORE RESTAURANTS. I JUST WANTED TO DO COFFEE SHOPS AND, AND THEN TOM SAID WE COULD DO THE OUT. HE CHECKED WITH YOU GUYS AND WE COULD DO THE OUTSIDE COOKING AND HAS BEEN A LONG TIME DREAM OF OF CHEF AND I JUST TO DO AN ORGANIC. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT'S STILL APPROACHABLE. IT'S AN EVERYDAY ON THE AUTHENTIC. 
          IT'S STILL EVERY DAY. SO IT'S STILL APPROACHABLE. OKAY. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE COST EFFECTIVE. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE FOR EVERYONE WE'RE CONSCIOUS OF. EVEN IN MY COFFEE SHOPS, WE DON'T. WE, I JUST PUT IT UP TO WHAT, WHAT DO WE TAKE IT TO $8 RIGHT NOW? AND IT TOOK IT TOOK ARGUMENTS WITH ME NOT WANTING TO RAISE THE PRICES BECAUSE WE. IT'S HARD OUT TRE AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT TO OUR PEOPLE AND OUR CUSTOMERS. SO WE WILL BE CONSCIOUS OF HOW WE PRICE THINGS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS RIGHT, BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN AND ENJOY, BE APPROACHABLE AND ENJOY THE HARD LIFE THAT THEY HAVE WITH WORK, KIDS AND SCHOOL AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF AND COME JUST OKAY, RELAX, SPECIAL PLACE. SO IT'LL BE AFFORDABLE. 
          IT REALLY WILL. DUNCAN EMERY WON'T, BUT THAT WENT WELL. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS PRESENTER. ALL RIGHT I SEE NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. I'M NOT SURE I HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, BUT I DID DO KIND OF A COMBINED OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSALS. THE PROJECTED PERFORMANCES AT THIS STAGE ARE YEAR ONE ARE VERY HIGH LEVEL, JUST ANTICIPATED AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE THE OFFER FOR 
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THE BUILDING, THE EXPECTED AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY PLAN TO PUT INTO THE BUILDING, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE REQUESTING ANY INCENTIVES, WHETHER OR NOT THEY NEED THE PARCEL WHERE THE RESTROOM IS AND THEIR TIMELINE TO GET IN THERE. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, MR. HESSLER WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU. I'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. YES. SO JUST A COUPLE THINGS. I ASSUME IF WE IF WE SELL THE RESTROOM PLOT, WE HAVE SOME IDEA WHERE THAT MIGHT GO. I THINK PUBLIC RESTROOM DOWNTOWN IS STILL SOMETHING WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SELL THAT YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO, BUT TELL ME THAT YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT. WE'VE GIVEN IT SOME THOUGHT. WE'VE DEFINITELY BEEN LOOKING. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE PROXIMITY OF A PUBLIC RESTROOM TO THE BULK OF THE ACTIVITY IS PRETTY IMPORTANT. THE FURTHER YOU MOVE IT AWAY, THE LESS USEFUL IT IS TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN IT GOES BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS, WHERE IT'S A BURDEN ON, ON BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS NEARBY THAT ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING A PUBLIC RESTROOM. SO THERE ARE SOME SPOTS AND SOME IDEAS. THERE IS SOME COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT IS IT IS MEANT TO BE REMOVED. THERE'S A COST TO IT. THERE'S A CRANE PROCESS AND A TRUCK PROCESS. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO THERE'S ALSO A COST TO PUTTING THAT BACK ON THE FOUNDATION. SO IT'S ABOUT 140,000 FOR THAT PROCESS, ASSUMING YOU HAVE A PLACE TO PUT IT. SO THERE ARE SOME PLACES THAT ARE BEING EVALUATED. 
          AND WE CAN CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO PULL THAT THREAD WHEN WE CLOSE. THAT'S THAT'S MODULAR. 
          WE CAN LIFT THAT OFF THE GROUND. IT'S IN THREE PIECES ACTUALLY. CORRECT. SO THAT'S THE STANDARD. 
          WHEN WE STARTED THE BOND PROGRAM, ALL OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE IN THE PARKS THAT ARE RESTROOMS, SLASH CONCESSION PROPERTIES ARE, ARE MODULAR FOR THAT REASON, SO THAT THEY'RE MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAN STICK BUILT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. AND THEN THE PROJECTED PERFORMANCE IS THAT THE, THE AMOUNT OF SALES THEY EXPECT TO MAKE IN THAT FIRST YEAR. CORRECT. SO THAT'S NOT OUR THAT'S NOT OUR REVENUE. THAT'S THEIR REVENUE, CORRECT. OUR SALES TAX. NO, NO. 
          YOU CAN DREAM IT. COME ON COUNCILMAN. OKAY. AND SO WE WOULD WE WOULD REAP THE SALES TAX BENEFITS FROM THAT KIND OF THAT KIND OF THAT'S WHAT THAT NUMBER IS THERE FOR. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BOTH. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. 
          COUNCILMEMBER DUTTON, ANY I CAN SEND YOU MY LIST OF. THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO JUST REMIND COUNCIL THAT WHILE THE TOILETS WERE FANTASTIC IDEA, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER DOWNTOWNS THAT HAVE AN INDEPENDENT STANDALONE RESTROOM OUTSIDE OF THEM. AND WE ALSO STILL RENT PORTA POTTIES FOR EVERY MAJOR EVENT THAT WE DO. 
          SO JUST KEEP KEEP THAT IN MIND. I. SURE THEY'RE GREAT, BUT ALSO WE HAVE PLENTY OF PLACES THAT WOULD THEN FORCE PEOPLE TO GO IN AND BUY A DRINK SO THAT THEY CAN USE THE RESTROOM. IT'S IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN END ALL BE ALL IN MY OPINION. SO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HERE, STAFF? ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SHARKS ARE I MEAN COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE IT'S MAY WE WILL COME TO A CONSENSUS, BUT I WANT TO TAKE A COMMERCIAL BREAK FIRST AND GIVE US A RECESS. WE ASKED. LET'S TAKE 15 MINUTES. PLEASE BE BACK AT 804 AND GIVE YOU A FEW ALL R, COUNCIL, YOU'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATIONS HERE AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH DIRECTION ON STAFF ON HOW WE SHOULD PROVIDE DIRECTION TO THEM ON MOVING FORWARD. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO TAKE TWO OF THEM AND HAVE DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, MAYBE AN A AND A B. IF NEGOTIATIONS FALL THROUGH WITH THE FIRST CHOICE, THEN WE CAN. SORRY, I'VE JUST WALKED IN. YES. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HAVING THAT DISCUSSION TONIGHT AND MOVING IT DOWN TO TWO ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA OR. IT SAYS ON THE STAFF REPORT HERE COUNSELS US TO REVIEW THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION. I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE ONLY THAT THE MAYOR WOULD GIVE DIRECTION TO WHICH 
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ONES WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE WITH AT THIS POINT. OKAY. STAFF DIRECTION ON. WE'RE NOT PICKING ONE TONIGHT AND THEY COULD ALWAYS GO BACK AT THE END. OKAY. COUNCIL, THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT'S THE INTENT TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO GO INTO NEGOTIATIONS. AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AT A FUTURE TIME WITH THE RESULTS OF THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. ON CHAPTER 380 AGREEMENT. AND THEN IT'LL GO FORWARD TO FORMAL CONSIDERATION AT A REGULAR SESSION. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. SO THEN. COUNCIL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. THEN ON CONSIDERATION OF HOW WE SHOULD DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE THE APPLICANTS OR THE WITH THE PRESENTERS. COUNCIL MEMBER. MOORE. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO PUT FORTH THE LAST PRESENTATION AS ONE OF THOSE THAT WOULD GO FORWARD INTO THE DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. MY PREFERENCE IS STATION ONE, NUMBER ONE, FIREHOUSE COMMONS NUMBER TWO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. WELL, I'M GOING TO ITERATE THE SAME FIRE FIREHOUSE COMMENTS AND STATION ONE. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REQUEST THAT IF THIS GOES THE WAY THAT IT IS TRENDING AT THE MOMENT, THAT STAFF DO REACH OUT TO THE OTHER TWO APPLICANTS AND SEE IF THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE CAN TRY TO HELP THEM WITH, SO THAT I BECAUSE I THINK ALL FOUR ARE FANTASTIC IDEAS, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE WHOEVER THE THE TWO THAT ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS LOCATION THAT WE, WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO HELP THEM. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE? THEN I WOULD AGREE WITH THE FIREHOUSE COMMENTS AND STATION ONE. THOSE TWO I THINK WOULD BE RISE TO THE TOP FOR ME. AND WITH THAT BEING FIVE OUT OF THE NINE HERE, THEN WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THOSE TWO. SO EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT. THOSE TWO PLEASE. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH FIREHOUSE COMMENTS AND STATION ONE FOR STAFF TO GO INTO NEGOTIATIONS AND COME BACK AT A LATER DATE. THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE PRESENTERS. REALLY FABULOUS CONCEPTS AND ALL OF THEM. AND CERTAINLY HOPE THAT CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF. ON FINDING A PLACE IN GARLAND, BECAUSE WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ANY OF THOSE CONCEPTS HERE. MOVE FORWARD NOW 
          [3. 2026-2027 CDBG, HOME, and ESG Federal Grant Allocations]
WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE. IT'S OUR 2026, 2027 C, D, C, D, B G HOME AND ESG FEDERAL GRANT ALLOCATIONS. 
          GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. AS PROMISED, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS BACK FOR A FINAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FEDERAL FUNDING ALLOCATIONS FOR CDBG SUBRECIPIENTS FOR PUBLIC SERVICES. WE DID RECEIVE EVERYONE'S INFORMATION OVER THE LAST WEEK, AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT EVERYBODY WOULD GET THAT INTO US SO THAT WE COULD PUT THIS ON THIS SHEET FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION. AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERYBODY DID EVEN EVERYTHING OUT TO $313,469 ACROSS THE BOTTOM. THE DISCREPANCY THAT YOU SEE IN THE AVERAGE ALLOCATION COLUMN OF THE 200, $208.34, THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THOSE ARE AVERAGES. AND SO IT INCREASED IT JUST A SLIGHT BIT. SO WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S ALLOCATIONS SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THEM SIDE BY SIDE, AS WELL AS EVERY EVERY DISTRICT'S ALLOCATION THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES AREAS. WE REALLY JUST NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT ABOUT THOSE FINAL NUMBERS. SO WE DID PUT TOGETHER SOME IDEAS, BUT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO IS REALLY GET COUNCIL'S INPUT ON WHAT CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. THE TWO KEY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. 
          SO THE ONES HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ARE THE NEW APPLICANTS THAT HAVE NEVER WORKED WITH US BEFORE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD ALL FOUR OF THEM CAME IN AT UNDER $5,000. NOW, THE THRESHOLD FOR $5,000 ISN'T ARBITRARY. IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE A PRODUCTIVE USE OF THE FUNDING, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE $5,000 OR MORE. SO IT'S UP TO COUNCIL HOW WE PROCEED WITH 
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THAT. BUT THE IDEA BEING THAT EITHER WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE MONEY FROM OTHER SUBRECIPIENTS TO INCREASE THAT TO 5000, OR WE WOULD NEED TO ZERO THOSE OUT AND THEN AVERAGE THOSE ACROSS FOR THE FOR THE OTHER RECIPIENTS OF THE FUNDING. COUNCIL MEMBER. DUTTON. SO I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS. THERE'S SO MUCH COMMENTS. THERE LOOKING AT THE WAY THAT COUNCIL ALLOCATED FUNDS IS A LITTLE HEAD SCRATCHING. SO WE'VE GOT SOME THAT WERE NOT ALLOCATED AT THE 5000 MINIMUM THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED, WHICH I'M SURE THROWS THINGS OFF A LITTLE. AND I DON'T KNOW. AND THIS IS NOT TO BE MEAN OR UGLY TO ANYONE. I DON'T KNOW THAT. SOME OF THESE DON'T LOOK LIKE THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF THOUGHT PUT BEHIND THEM. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE PROGRS OFFER. AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH WHEN WE'VE GOT THREE NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE. AND THE OTHER IS THAT THERE WAS ONLY THREE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP TO SPEAK ON THEIR PROGRAM. SO I, I WOULD LIKE US TO MAYBE ADDRESS OR I MEAN, NOT AND NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT FOR NEXT YEAR, KIND OF HOW DO WE HOW DO WE FIX THAT? RIGHT. SO, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SENDING US OVER THE APPLICATION PACKETS. THAT WAS AMAZINGLY HELPFUL. IF YOU HAD TIME TO READ THROUGH 132 PAGES. RIGHT. SO WHEN I OPENED IT, I WAS LIKE, OH GOD, LIKE, WHAT DID YOU ASK FOR? BUT IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD LEARNING TOOL, AT LEAST FOR MYSELF. NOW, JOE AND I MET ON A SATURDAY AND KIND OF WENT OVER EVERYTHING BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE JIMMY AND JUSTIN AND CHRISTINA, HE WAS NEW LAST YEAR AND KIND OF GOT THROWN INTO IT, BUT HE WAS BY HIMSELF. SO IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF ZEROS IN PLACES THAT I I'M LIKE, OH, WELL, HOW DID HOW DID YOU DECIDE ZERO? AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THE BEST FOR OUR APPLICANTS. IF OUR COUNCIL DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE AND WHAT THEY DO. SO, HOWEVER, WE CAN TRY TO LESSEN THAT NEXT YEAR. LIKE EVEN IF IT'S WE MAKE A CHEAT SHEET OF A QUICK. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT LATER, BUT THAT THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS THAT THERE'S A, A LOT OF. A LOT OF QUESTIONABLE NUMBERS ON HERE. AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT A LOT OF IT IS JUST WE DON'T WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT THAT NONPROFIT DOES. AND SO I, I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SENDING US ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PHENOMENAL. 
          IT DEFINITELY HELPED THIS YEAR. AND SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF ZEROING OUT THE ONES THAT DID NOT MEET THAT CRITERIA AND DIVIDING IT AMONGST. AMONGST OUR, OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT REQUESTED FUNDS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE OUR CITY, OUR CITY PROGRAMS, THE FOUR BOXING GYM, PARKS, PARKS AND CODE, I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CODE REACH THAT 36 THAT THEY REQUESTED. 
          BECAUSE THEY IT WHATEVER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. I'VE GOT ALL THE NUMBERS DOWN HERE, BUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HELP IS, IS VERY HIGH WITH THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S LIKE IT COMES OUT TO LIKE TEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH JUST INCREASING THAT $4,000 THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HELP THROUGH THE SEASON. SO I'D BE IN FAVOR OF ZEROING OUT THE ONES THAT DID NOT MEET THE MINIMUM 5000 AND MOVING IT TO, TO OUR PEOPLE. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          WE WOULD BE HAPPY IF THE COUNCIL WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT NEXT YEAR WHEN WE BRING THESE FORWARD TO TAKE THEIR APPLICATIONS AND ESSENTIALLY SUMMARIZE THEM INTO SHORT TWO PAGES AND THEN PRESENT THOSE TO YOU, ALTHOUGH WE MAY DISAGREE. WELL, THE FIRST THE FIRST WORKBOOK THAT I SENT OUT TO EVERYONE HAS THE SUMMARIES IN THE BACK OF ALL THE APPLICATIONS, THE ONE PAGES THAT GIVE UP THE WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO, GUESS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AND HOW MANY PEOPLE IT WOULD ASSIST PLUS THEIR SCORE. SO WE CAN SEND THAT OUT ON BOTH MEETINGS NEXT YEAR IF THAT WOULD HELP. BUT THE VERY FIRST WORKBOOK, 
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THE ONE THAT SAYS WORKBOOK, THE VERY LAST SECTIONS OF IT, HAS THE SUMMARIES OF ALL THE GOOD. 
          SHE DID IT ALREADY THAT I MADE IT THAT FAR IN THE READING, AND I WAS SURPRISED WHEN YOU WANTED ALL OF THEM. I WAS LIKE, I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS GOING TO BE SO HEAVY, BUT I DID READ THEM, I DID, IT WAS GOOD READING, SO I APPRECIATE IT. JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE SCORE SHEETS, WE DO HAVE A COMMITTEE OF FIVE THAT SCORE ALL OF THESE AND READ THROUGH THEM AND MAKE SURE SO THAT. AND THAT IS JUST TO GIVE YOU A A DIRECTION OF. 
          DID THEY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED THEM? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SERVING? DOES THE MATH ADD UP? SO WHEN YOU SEE THE PUBLIC SERVICES PORTION, YOU'LL SEE A SCORE OF THE SCORE IS LOW. IT'S GENERALLY BECAUSE EITHER SOMETHING WASN'T ANSWERED CORRECTLY OR THEY DIDN'T. THE MATH DIDN'T ADD UP FOR WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. THEY CAN SERVE FOR THE AMOUNT REQUESTED. SO, AND I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST QUESTION THAT I HAD READING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS WAS THAT LIKE, WELL, HOW DID THEY ONLY GET A 40 OR LIKE SALVATION ARMY WAS THE BIG ONE THAT LIKE, THEY SCORED VERY LOW AND IT WAS LIKE, OH, WELL, I HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? AND SO, I MEAN, THIS IS MY THIRD YEAR DOING THE ALLOCATIONS AND, BUT IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT I ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE THE WHOLE APPLICATION AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND SO I, I THINK IF WE CAN EVEN DO LIKE A CRASH COURSE OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST A QUICK LIKE, THIS IS WHAT THIS IS FOR. I WOULDN'T SAY OUR NEW INCOMING, BUT EVEN MYSELF, I LEARNED FROM IT. SO SURE, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE EVERYBODY SUBMITS ONLINE NOW. SO WE JUST PRINT EVERYTHING OFF THAT EVERYONE SUBMITS. AND THOSE SUMMARIES ARE DONE BASED ON WHAT THEY SUBMITTED ONLINE. SO NEXT YEAR, IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A CRASH COURSE ON THE ACTUAL ONLINE PROCESS, HOW IT IS SO YOU DON'T HAVE THESE STACKS OF PAPERS. YEAH, WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. AND IT SHOWS YOU THE QUESTIONS AND HOW IT WAS SCORED AND EVERYTHING AND HOW IT AVERAGES THE SCORES BETWEEN THE FIVE. SO YEAH, NO, I, I WOULD BE GLAD TO DO THAT. WELL THEY WILL B BE GLAD  DO, I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THAT TO DO A YOU GUYS DO THIS EVERY DAY. 
          SO IT'S IN YOUR WHEELHOUSE. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES LIKE WE GET INFORMATION AND IT'S COMPMPLETELY FEIGN TO US. AND SO I THINK UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE MAKING A DECISION ON IS THE WAY THAT WE CAN DO THIS APPROPRIATELY AND ACCURATELY. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE ASKING FOR THE APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO READ. YEAH. LIKE, AND I APPRECIATE SOMEBODY ELSE GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR. 
          YOU WEREN'T THE ONLY ONE. SO I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE WE GET TO SEE ALL OF IT. 
          AND Y'ALL JUST GET TO SEE A SUMMARY OF IT THIS YEAR. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          YEAH. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. JUST AS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, YOU SAID YOU YOU WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF REMOVING THE FOUR THAT DID NOT MAKE THE $5,000 LIMIT AND ADDING THEM TO THE THE CITY INITIATED PROJECTS FOR POLICE, BOXING PARK STARS, PARKS AFTER SCHOOL, AND THE ELDERLY YARD CARE PROGRAM. YES. OKAY. AND THE REASONING FOR THAT IS BECAUSE OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE ONLY GETTING MONEY FROM US. THEY'RE NOT GETTING MONEY FROM DALLAS COUNTY, FROM OTHER CITIES. THEY'RE ONLY RELYING ON OUR OUR GRANT ALLOCATION. AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE WHATEVER IS REMAINING TO OUR OUR FOLKS. OKAY. AND I THINK ARE YOU, MARILYN, HAVE YOU GOT THE. YEAH. SO IT'S, IT'S COMING OUT TO A LITTLE OVER 3000 MORE FOR EACH OF THEM. I'M JUST GOING TO MOVE TO ANOTHER THREE. COULD WE MAKE SURE CODE GETS UP TO THEIR MINIMUM OR TO THEIR REQUESTED AMOUNT? SO REQUESTED WAS $36,300 AND THEY WERE RECEIVING 32, FOUR, 64 AS THE AVERAGE ALLOCATION. SO THAT IS A RISE UP. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GET IT UP. I AGREE. OKAY. SO SO THEN TO BRING THAT UP TO 36,300 AND THEN EVENLY DIVIDE THE REMAINDER OVER THE OTHER THREE. SORRY TO MAKE IT. NO, NO, IT'S OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. ALL RIGHT. WELL THE CALCULATE THAT THEN, MA'AM. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. YEAH. SO I WANT TO EXTEND MY THANKS TO CARISSA FOR MEETING ME AT THE WEST GARLAND LIBRARY AND EXPLAINING WHAT SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS WERE. THIS ALLOCATION WAS DONE RIGHT BEFORE I GOT RIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION LAST YEAR, BEFORE THE SWEARING IN AT LEAST. AND SO I COMPLETELY MISSED IT LAST YEAR. AND SOME OF THESE I WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A CLUE AS TO WHAT THESE ARE, JUST BASED ON THE THING THAT I GOT HERE. SO THANK YOU, CARISSA, FOR WALKING THAT THROUGH ME. WE SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AND IN A CONFERENCE ROOM IN THE LIBRARY AND GOING THROUGH IT ONE BY ONE AND TALKING THROUGH 
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IT. AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE HERE'S THE LOGIC I USED. YOU'LL NOTICE I HAVE A ZERO ON ALL THE NEW PROGRAMS. I FELT LIKE THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY ARE GOOD ONES. WE NEED TO SUPPORT THOSE. AND RATHER THAN TAKING ON ANYBODY ELSE NEW OVER AND ABOVE THAT, THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE BASED IN GARLAND, WHERE THE WHERE THE WHERE THEIR OFFICES IN GARLAND, I FELT LIKE THOSE GOT MORE WEIGHT, LIKE ROBERT SHEPARD'S RESTORATION CHURCH PROJECT. I GAVE HIM THE FULL ALLOCATION BECAUSE HE IS HERE IN GARLAND DOING STUFF WITH GARLAND OR GARLAND, WHERE SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE MEALS ON WHEELS AND SALVATION ARMY, THOSE ARE NATIONAL PROGRAMS. THEY'RE. THEY'VE GOT LOTS OF PLACES TO GET FUNDS FROM. I HAD TO GIVE THEM SOME. BUT THE WAIT FOR HOPES NOR HOPES FOR NEW BEGINNING, THAT WOMEN'S SHELTER PROGRAM BASED HERE IN GARLAND. I GAVE THEM THE FULL ALLOCATION AND THAT'S WHY I DID IT IS. THE CLOSER THEY ARE TO GARLAND, THE MORE I GAVE THEM, THE MORE WEIGHT I GAVE THEM. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE LOGIC I USED TO GET WHERE I WAS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF THROW THAT OUT THERE SO AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT, WHAT THE LOGIC I USED WAS. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT FROM SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF YOU HAVE A IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ALONG THOSE LINES. OKAY. THANK YOU, STAFF FOR THE GOOD JOB ON THIS. I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS. I KNOW THAT GIVEN US THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON LIKE THE ESG THAT HELPED ME LOOK AT SAY, OKAY, WELL, IF THEY'VE GOTTEN THAT SOME SOME MONEY THERE, THEN MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN FOCUS ON THAT SIDE BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS NEEDED TO DECIDE BASED ON MATH. YEAH, THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF MONEY ON ESG AND THERE'S PERCENTAGES YOU HAVE TO HIT. SO NOT A LOT. AND WE CALLED WHILE WE WERE IN THE LIBRARY, WE CALLED CHRIS HARRIS. THIS WAS ON A SATURDAY. YEAH. THANK YOU CHRIS. AND HE EXPLAINED WHY 36,300. THAT'S NOT A ROUND NUMBER. WELL, THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED. EXACTLY. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO APPLIED FOR CODE CARES HELP TO KEEP THEIR LAWN MOWED ALL SUMMER. AND SO WE SAID, AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THAT NUMBER. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO SEE, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE CODE, GET THE FULL 363, BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT APPLIED LAST YEAR WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPED IF WE'D HAVE BEEN AT THAT NUMBER. SO WE GOT AN EMPHASIS ON CODE. AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A, THIS IS A WAY TO KIND OF PUT SOME MONEY TOWARDS THAT, HELP THE PEOPLE WE CAN THAT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT ARE GOING TO NEED HELP ANYWAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK SAY THANKS AGAIN, CHRIS. 
          MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. YES, I PICK MINE UP. I STUDY AS SOMEONE WHO'S IN THE PUBLIC SERVANTS FIELD. ANYWAYS, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH EVEN WRITING GRANTS. I'VE DONE IT. I'VE GRANTED GRANTS, WRITE THEM, I DO ALL THAT. SO I WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PAPERWORK JUST BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT AND I'VEVE DONE IT BEFORE. AND SO I FELT LIKE WHEN I STUDIED EACH ONE, IT WAS FOR PURPOSE. I DID TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHO GETS LIKE COUNCILMAN JOE THOMAS JUST SAID, WHO GETS MONIES FROM ELSEWHERE, YOU KNOW, SO AND THAT'S THAT FACTORED INTO MY ZEROS. WHAT ALSO FACTORED IN TO MY ZEROS IS THE BUDGET EXPENSES. 
          I LOOKED, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM WERE JUST A SALARY AND I WANTED TO GO MORE TO SERVICES. 
          SO I REALLY HAD THIS BECAUSE WHEN I, WHEN I WRITE A GRANT, I HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN I WRITE IT, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED. AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE IN THE PAST 15 YEARS TO GET MY GRANTS APPROVED. SO I JUST KIND OF USE THAT METRICS TO KIND OF WEIGH OUT HOW I GOT MINE. BUT IT DEFINITELY HELPED THAT YOU PRINTED THIS ALL OUT FOR ME. I'M A PAPER PERSON. I TOLD YOU, I HAVE MY MARKS IN HERE. MY MATH WAS REALLY BAD. SO I'M GLAD WE GOT TO ENTER IT IN BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND IT WAS IT'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF HARD WORK. AS SOMEONE WHO'S DONE IT IN THE PAST, I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THANK YOU. 
          ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I TO WRESTLED WITH THIS ASSIGNMENT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I REALLY FELT THAT EVERY PERSON THAT. REQUESTED FUNDS, I REALLY FELT THAT. I FELT APPRECIATIVE, FIRST OF ALL, THAT THEY ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I TRIED TO ALLOCATE MONIES TO EACH OF THEM, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR A WHILE. I THINK THAT THE THING THAT CONCERNED ME THE MOST, THOUGH, ABOUT THIS, WHEN YOU ARE ALLOCATING MONEY, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THE PEOPLE WHO YOU'RE ALLOCATING THE MONEY TO, AT LEAST THEY SHOULD AT LEAST SHOW UP. THEY SHOULD AT LEAST SHOW UP. AND SO THAT DID HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE MANNER BY WHICH I ALLOCATED THE FUNDS. AS THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE GETTING FUNDS FROM BOTH 
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SIDES OF THE HOUSE, THAT FACTORED INTO IT WITH ME. BUT. WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WE'RE AVERAGING, EVEN WHEN YOU ALLOCATE MONIES, AND I WAS, I THINK I HAD $5,000 MINIMUM ON MOST OF THEM AND STILL WAS ABLE TO GIVE INCREASES IN THE AREAS THAT I THOUGHT THEY WERE EVEN THERE. WHEN YOU'RE AVERAGING IT, OF COURSE, PEOPLE PUTTING ZEROS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU PUT THERE, IT'S STILL GOING TO GO DOWN TO. SO I THINK THAT, YES, WE DO NEED TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THE SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF WHAT EACH OF THESE ENTITIES ARE, BECAUSE WE HAD SEVERAL ENTITIES THIS YEAR THAT ARE BRANAND NEW. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO EMPHASIZE TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE TAKING A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO PUT ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS FOR THEM. AND IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SHOW UP TO AT LEAST LET US SEE THEIR FACES, THAT MAY BE A CAUSE. THAT MAY BE A REASON THERE, THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T GET THE FUNDS TO BEGIN WITH. SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, KWESI. I MEAN, THE GYM, HE SHOWS UP EVERY YEAR, HE MAKES A PRESENTATION THAT YOU'D BE OUT OF YOUR MIND NOT TO GIVE THEM SOME MONEY AND TO EVEN GIVE THEM MORE. I EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE AT ONE TIME THAT THESE FOUR HERE, WE HAD CLOSE TO 15,000. WE COULD ALLOCATE 5000 TO EACH ONE OF THOSE, AT LEAST THREE OF THOSE, AND LEAVE ONE OF THEM OUT. BUT WOULD THAT BE FAIR? SO I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN DUTTON THAT LET'S ZERO THOSE OUT. 
          ALLOCATE THE MONIES TO THOSE INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE WORKING WITH US, AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH MAKING AN APPEAL IN THESE FUTURE YEARS. FIRST OF ALL, BE HERE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I'M NEW TO THIS AS WELL. AS I GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND LOOKING THROUGH THE DOCUMENTATION. AND FOR ME, I LOOK AT THE CITY INITIATIVE. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT IT. I LOOK AT THE FIRST FOUR. I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH I'M NEWS, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S WELL KNOWN. SO WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR INITIATIVE. SO THAT'S MY TOP PRIORITY. AND THE SECOND PART IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO LOOK AT THE SCORE AND THE NONPROFIT'S IS BASED IN GARLAND. BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT THERE'S A NEWS NONPROFIT COMING IN AND THEY DO A WORK. THEY HAVE PASSION TO SERVE. SO I PUT $5,000 FOR THEM AS WELL, BUT NOW ZEROS OUT. SO WE SEE NOW WE YOU ASKED US ON THE HIGHLIGHT ON THE YELLOW THAT NEED TO ADJUST. SO MY PRINCIPAL IS STILL GARLAND FIRST, RIGHT? I KNOW THAT DISAPPOINTMENT FOR THE ONE THAT DON'T HAVE ANY, BUT AT LEAST THERE'S ONE GALLON. THERE IS THE HEALTHY STEP PROGRAM. SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE MOVELL THE MONEY TO THE GARLAND TO MAKE IT 5000, AND THEN THE REST OF THEM ZERO OUT AND PUT PUT IN OTHER PLACES, MOVE ALL OF THEM OUT, EXCEPT FOR WHICH ONE IS TO KEEP THE GARLAND BASED ON IN YELLOW, THE ONE THAT HEALTHY STEP PROGRAM OR THE HEALTHY STEP PROGRAM. OKAY. BECAUSE FOR ME IS GARLAND. I'M WITH GARLAND FIRST, AND THEY'RE BASED IN GARLAND. WHY NOT? WE SUPPORT THEM. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER CARAWAY. AS WE ALL KNOW, I WAS, YOU KNOW, NEW TO THIS. AND THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME, BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT HAD A LOT THAT I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP TO THIS POINT. I AGREE WITH THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOUR FACE. YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR AND WT YOU'RE PROVIDING OR STANDING FOR. ANOTHER THING IS, I DID SEE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT SORT OF OVERLAP, SOME OF THE NONPROFITS THAT HONESTLY, IF THEY REALLY, TRULY CARED AND REALLY WANTED TO SOLVE AN ISSUE OR SOLVE A PROBLEM, THEY WOULD PARTNER TOGETHER IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE ISSUES OR THOSE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE SEEING. BUT I AGREE WITH KARISSA, HANDS DOWN. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ONES, THE FIRST, FIRST FOUR, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AND WHAT THEY NEED. THERE ARE STAPLES HERE IN OUR CITY, STAPLE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THEY 
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MAKE A WORLD OF A DIFFERENCE. BUT THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT I HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM LUCK. I I'M FINE WITH OPTION ONE. HOWEVER, I WOULD PROPOSE PUTTING ALL OF THE UNMET MONIES TOWARDS CODE CARES. THANK YOU TO THE ELDERLY CARE PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. ALSO NEXT YEAR, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PUT A MINIMUM ON THE SPREADSHEET TO WHERE YOU CAN'T ENTER? LESS THAN 5000? YES. I'LL JUST NEED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. OKAY. WE ARE. I CAN SHOW YOU. WE ARE LOOKING AT CHANGING THIS TO A SMART SHEET NEXT YEAR, DOING IT DIFFERENT. 
          IT DIDN'T IT DIDN'T WITH ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT OPERATING SYSTEMS. IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH VERY WELL THIS YEAR. SO NEXT YEAR WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS DIFFERENT. BUT YES, THAT I'VE HAD THAT EXACT SAME PROBLEM BEFORE WITH GOOGLE WAS CHANGING THE NUMBERS EVERY TIME I OPENED IT. WELL, THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU SIR. YES. SORRY AGAIN. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ELDERLY YARD CARE PROGRAM. ARE THEY JUST GOING OUT THERE CUTTING THEIR GRASS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DO IT? OR IS THAT REALLY IT'S ELDERLY OR DISABLED? OKAY. AND. SO YEAH, GO AHEAD. YEAH, IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY. COUNCILMEMBER DENTON NOTHING WEIRD. GOSH. YEAH. SO THEY APPLY THROUGH THE CODE DEPARTMENT WHEN CODE GOES OUT AND THEY CAN IDENTIFY SOMEONE THAT MIGHT NEED THE HELP THEY THEY APPLY. THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA. AND IT'S EITHER FINANCIALLY DISABLED, LIKE THEY PHYSICALLY CAN'T. MOW THEIR YARD. AND THEN IT'S FOR THE SEASON. SO THEY'LL MOW FOR THE SEASON. IT'S NOT JUST A ONE TIME LIKE RIGHT NOW WITH THE GARLAND CARES PROGRAM. IT WOULD BE LIKE A ONE TIME THEY'RE IN THE HOSPITAL. THEY JUST CAN'T GET IT DONE. SO VOLUNTEERS WOULD GO OUT AND DO IT. THIS IS AN ENTIRE SEASON THAT THEY'RE MOWED ON. I THINK AVERAGE IS LIKE TEN, TEN TIMES THROUGHOUT THE SEASON. AND SO THEY'RE THEY HAVE A VERY SERIOUS APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          AND SO YEAH, THIS IS THEY'RE ALSO A VERY GOOD PARTNER. THEY ARE VERY ON TIME WITH GETTING APPLICATIONS IN AND GETTING THE PROJECTS DONE AND THEN LETTING US KNOW WHEN THEY'VE SPENT THE FUNDING. SO. FOR A CONTRACTOR THAT DOES THE MOWING FOR THEM, THAT IS A, IT'S A GARLAND BASED BUSINESS AND I BELIEVE A GARLAND RESIDENT. SO IT'S STILL PUTTING THAT MONEY BACK INTO OUR CITY. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. WELL, AS FAR AS THE THE EXTRA FUNDS, I, I DO AGREE WITH THE ZERO THOSE OUT AND THEN REALLOCATE THE FUNDS. BASICALLY OPTION ONE MAKE THE YARD CARE PROGRAM WHOLE AND THEN SPRINKLE THE REST OF IT ACROSS THE OTHERS. I MEAN, THE, THE BOXING GYM IS ALREADY BEYOND THEIR REQUEST. SO I WOULD JUST PUT IT TOWARDS THE, THE STARS PROGRAM AND THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. WHATEVER REMAINS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, THESE ARE ALL I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THEY'RE ALL WORTHY ORGANIZATIONS FOR THIS MONEY HERE. BUT I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE THAT ALL THESE ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME PRESENT TO US OR IF NOT PRESENT TOO US, AT LEAST REACH OUT TO US. I KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM DID THAT. IF THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BE THERE THAT NIGHT. THE GOOD THING ABOUT NO MATTER WHAT METHODOLOGY THAT WE ALL TOOK, THERE'S WISDOM IN THE MULTITUDE OF COUNSELORS. AND WITH THE AVERAGE OF THE NINE PEOPLE HERE, I THINK WE ALL CAME TO VERY GOOD NUMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD. I'M FINE WITH I PARTICULARLY LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER OR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SUGGESTION AT THE END WITH THE BOXING GYM HAVE ALREADY HIT THEIR MAXIMUM REQUEST NUMBER, SPREADING IT ACROSS THE OTHER THREE RIGHT THERE. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE WAY TO DO IT RIGHT THERE. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH AND I'LL ASK FOR CONSENSUS ON EACH ONE OF THEM IF WE'RE GOING THROUGH HERE. SO LOOKING AT OPTION NUMBER ONE WAS JUST TO SPREAD THE REMAINING FUNDS ACROSS THE FOUR CITY ORGANIZATIONS EQUALLY OR I 
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GUESS EQUALLY. WAS IT? YES. OR WEIGHTED? IT WAS A WEIGHTED AVERAGE OR IT WAS. COMPARED TO WHAT THEY NEEDED. OKAY. CODE CARES TO WHAT THEY NEED AND THEN SPREAD ACROSS THE THREE OTHERS EQUALLY. SO LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON OPTION NUMBER ONE. FOR OPTION DISCUSSION. OPTION NUMBER ONE UP THERE WHERE IT BROUGHT UP CODE CARES, THE ELDERLY ELDERLY YARD CARE PROGRAM UP TO ITS REQUESTED AMOUNT. AND THEN THE REMAINING BALANCE WAS SPREAD ACROSS THE THREE OTHER CITY REQUESTS. OH, SO THAT'S OPTION NUMBER ONE. LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS OPTION NUMBER ONE. ONE. OKAY. OPTION NUMBER TWO WAS TO REMIND ME WHAT THAT ONE WAS. I REMEMBER IT WAS SUGGESTED. THAT. SO BRING EVERYONE UP $5,000 AND THEN STEP. YES, STEP. ANY STEP WOULD GET 5000. STEP GETS 5000 BECAUSE IT'S IN GARLAND. AND THE REMAINDER SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY OPTIONS. SO LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS. THEN ON OPTION AN OPTION NUMBER TWO. ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY GO TO OPTION NUMBER THREE WAS TO BRING CODE UP TO LET ME JUST SCROLL ON ME THERE. ANYWAY IT WAS TO BRING CODE OR THE BOXING GYM UP TO ITS REQUESTED NUMBER. AND THEN THE REMAINING GO ACROSS THE BOXING GYM WAS ALREADY AT THE REQUESTED NUMBER. SO BRINGING THE ELDERLY YARD CARE UP AND THEN DIVIDING THE REMAINING PORTION BETWEEN THE TWO CITY OTHER TWO CITY OPTIONS WAS OPTION NUMBER THREE. AND LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON COUNCIL. JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT WAS GOING TO BE TO BRING THE BOXING GYM TO ITS REQUESTED AMOUNT, WHICH IS 36000. SHE SAYS GOT IT THERE AT 36274. SO IT'LL BE 36 EVEN THOUGH I WAS. YEAH, I WAS. IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE I WAS STILL WORKING. OKAY. SO. I GOT AHEAD OF YOU THERE ON YOUR NUMBERS. YEAH. YOU SHOULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT THE COUNCIL YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT NINE OPTIONS FOR DISCUSSION UP THERE. EACH ONE OF US WOULD HAVE OUR OWN IDEA. YEAH. HERS IS GOING ALL TO COUNCIL. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM LOOKS WAS GOING THE REMAINING BALANCE INTO CODE. SO LET'S LET'S GO BACK TO THAT ONE THEN. IT WAS THE ALL THE ALL THE REMAINING OF THE UNDER 5000 WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO CODE LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE ON THAT ONE. THAT'S THREE. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ARTS FINAL ONE WAS DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH WAS TO THE BOXING GYM WAS AT ITS NUMBER ALREADY TO SPREAD THAT AMOUNT ACROSS THE THREE REMAINING CITY PROGRAMS, THE ELDERLY CARE PROGRAM AT 25 AND THEN AND THEN WHATEVER REMAINS, AS PUT IT EQUALLY BETWEEN THE OTHER TWO PARKS PROGRAMS. SO AGAIN, ELDERLY YARD CARE UP TO 100% OF THEIR REQUEST AND THEN SPREAD THE REMAINING OUT. SO, SO POLICE BOXING WOULD GET 36,000. SO ON, ON OPTION NUMBER FOUR, THE POLICE BOXING GYM WAS ALREADY UP TO ITS REQUESTED ALLOCATION NUMBER. CODE ENFORCEMENT THEN. GOT FUNDED AT 100%. AND THEN THE REMAINING BALANCE WENT TO THE OTHER TWO. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S OPTION NUMBER FOUR. 
          LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON THAT ONE. I THINK THAT IS FIVE VOTES AND THAT'S ALL WE NEED. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL GO WITH THAT OPTION FOR ITS BOXING GYM FUNDED AT 100% OF THE REQUEST CODE ENFORCEMENT UP TO THEIR REQUEST AMOUNT. CAN I JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE OPTION FOUR BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. THE MR. ART SAID TO GIVE THEM TO GIVE THE BOXING GYM THE AMOUNT REQUESTED, WHICH WOULD BE 36,000. WE STILL GOT IT UP THERE AT 36 TO 74. I DON'T KNOW WHICH. WE'RE GIVING THEM 36,036 EVEN. YES, THE REQUESTED AMOUNT 36 EVE SO IT'LL BE 36. IT WAS JUST SORT OF. IT'SINE. EITHER WE WANT TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER 270, $74. 
          STAFF JUST NEEDS TO KNOW WHICH DIRECTION THE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO WITH THE 200. OKAY, SO THE 274 BACK 30 THEN 36274 FOR THE BOXING GYM. I THINK WE SHOULD WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          CAN WE, CAN WE TAKE A SECOND AND PUT THOSE NUMBERS UP THERE? AND THEN THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHICH. YES, SURE. OF COURSE WE'RE $36,300. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN THE BALANCE GOES TO 
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THE OTHER. MR. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN. DOES ANYBODY ELSE LISTEN TO THE PODCAST? LET ME. THAT'S WHY. OKAY. SO THE THE BALANCE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT WAS $12,214. IF WE ZEROED OUT THE FOUR NEW APPLICATIONS, WE WOULD BE LEAVING THE POLICE BOXING GYM AT 36,000. YEAH. 
          $36,274. WE WOULD BE MOVING THE ELDERLY ART CARE TO $36,300, AT WHICH POINT THE BALANCE OF THAT WOULD BE DIVIDED BETWEEN THE PARK STAFF AND PARKS AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS OPTION FOUR. YES. SO DO WE NEED TO GO AROUND ONE MORE TIM COUNCIL OPTION NUMBER ONE, MAKE ME EXPLAIN IT ALL OVER AGAIN HERE. ALL RIGHT. OPTION NUMBER FOUR. MAYBE IF THAT GENTLEMAN WERE TO REPEAT IT. YES, I CAN DO THAT. I'LL HAVE. SORRY, I CAN DO THAT. YES. THIS IS WE START WITH OPTION NUMBER ONE. YES. OPTION NUMBER ONE. OKAY. ON OPTION NUMBER ONE WE WERE GOING TO ZERO OUT THE FOR UNDER 5000 AND ALLOCATE TO THE CITY INITIATED PROJECTS BRINGING THE CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE UP TO FOR THE THE PARKS ELDERLY YARD CARE UP TO $36,300. AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO DIVIDE THE REMAINDER UP AMONG THE THREE REMAINING APPLICATIONS THAT ARE THE CITY INITIATED PROGRAMS. OPTION NUMBER TWO. GOLLY, GETTING CONFUSED MYSELF. I'M SORRY. TWO IS WHERE WE FUNDED THE ANY STEP. OKAY. I'M SORRY. YES. THANK YOU. TWO IS WHERE WE FUNDED ANY STEP PROGRAM AND THEN DIVIDED THE REMAINDER THROUGH THE FOUR. CORRECT. 
          THROUGH THE FOUR. OKAY. THEN OPTION THREE. MAYOR. MAYOR. PRO TEM. WAS ALL AVAILABLE. 
          EVERYTNG ZEROING EVERYTHING OUT FOR THE NEW APPLICATIONS AND EVERYTHING TO THE ELDERLY YARD CARE PROGRAM. CORRECT. AND THEN OPTION NUMBER FOUR WAS WE LEAVE THE POLICE BOXING GYM WHERE IT IS AT 36 TO 74. THEN WE WOULD RAISE THE ELDERLY YARD CARE TO THE REQUESTED AMOUNT OF $36,300. AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THAT $12,000, WHATEVER'S REMAINING AFTER WE RAISE THAT UP WOULD BE DIVIDED BETWEEN THE PARKS, PROGRAMS, PARK STARS AND PARKS AFTER SCHOOL. ALL RIGHT, YOU HEARD IT, COUNCIL. WE'LL START OPTION NUMBER ONE. CONSENSUS ON ONE. ALL RIGHT, OPTION NUMBER TWO. AND NUMBER THREE. AND NUMBER FOUR. THERE WE GO. VERY GOOD. OPTION FOUR. 
          OKAY. WE WILL MAKE THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS. AND THIS WILL BE BACK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL ON THE 16TH OF JUNE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          [4. Amendment to Chapters 26 and 32 of the Code of Ordinances - Short-Term Rentals]
COUNCIL, MOVE NOW ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. AMENDMENT TO CHAPTERS 26 AND 32 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YOU MAY RECALL LAST YEAR, COUNCIL APPROVED AND PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT AMENDED OUR THEN CURRENT STR REGULATIONS. AT THAT TIME, WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW THIS IS. SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS WE MADE WERE CONSERVATIVE IN THAT WE WOULD COME BACK AS WE PUT SOME OF THOSE AMENDMENTS IN PLACE AND STARTED TRYING TO REGULATE SOME OF THE STARS. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M BACK TONIGHT IS BECAUSE, AS. OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE LEARNED SOME LESSONS WE'VE. LEARNED WHAT IS DIFFICULT ABOUT ENFORCING THE ORDINANCE AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, AND HOW IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO ENFORCE AND PROSECUTE. THOSE BAD ACTORS THAT RENT THE STARS. AND AGAIN, MOST OF THE STARS IN GARLAND ARE OPERATE JUST FINE. THE 
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ORDINANCE, AS THE COUNCIL INSTRUCTED US TO DRAFT IT LAST YEAR AND WHEN THE ONE THEY APPROVED WAS DESIGNED, AND IT'S BEEN EFFECTUATED AGAINST THOSE BAD ACTORS. AND QUITE FRANKLY, IN GARLAND, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THOSE. BUT WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE. AND SO TONIGHT IS JUST THREE SIMPLE AMENDMENTS THAT THAT ARE GOING TO HELP WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. WHAT IS THE AMENDMENT INTENDED TO DO? IT'S GOT REALLY TWO PRACTICAL GOALS IN IT. FIRST IS IMPROVING AND IMPROVE ENFORCEMENT. NOTICE AND CLARIFY THE PERMIT RECORD AND ENFORCEMENT. NOTICE IT. IT'S GOING TO CREATE A CLEAR CONSEQUENCE AND GIVE SOMEONE NOTICE WHO'S IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE, IF THEY'RE OCCUPYING OR USING THE PREMISES AS AN STR AFTER NOTICE HAS BEEN GIVEN THAT NO VALID STR PERMIT EXISTS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE GOAL IN THIS THE POLICY GOAL IN THESE AMENDMENTS IS NOT TO GO AFTER THE OCCUPANTS UNLESS WE HAVE UNLESS OUR OFFICERS ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. THE GOAL IS STILL PURSUING REGULATIONS AND ENFORCING REGULATIONS AGAINST THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND. BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT THERE MOST OF THE TIME, AND THEY'VE RENTED THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE HOSTING A PARTY AND THE PARTY GETS A LITTLE OUT OF HAND, THE POLICE SHOW UP AND THEY REALLY, BECAUSE NO ONE LIVES THERE AND MANY OF THE CARS PARKED OUTSIDE ARE RENTAL CARS BECAUSE THEY'VE COME FROM OUT OF TOWN. POLICE HAVE A HARD TIME ENFORCING OUR ORDINANCES AGAINST ANYONE THAT THEY KNOW, BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT ANSWER THE DOOR. OR IF THEY DO, THEY COULD WRITE THEM A CITATION. IT'S ONLY A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR. AND OFTENTIMES THESE PEOPLE ARE OUT OF STATE, AND SO THEY JUST WON'T PAY THE CLASS C MISDEMEANOR. AND IT REALLY DOESN'T ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM IS PARTIES BEING HELD AT LOCATIONS, SOMETIMES ON A WEEKLY BASIS, SOMETIMES MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK, AND SOMETIMES ON A MONTHLY BASIS. IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT THAT. SO THIS ORDINANCE ALSO ALLOWS THE CITY, IF A IF A CITY OFFICIAL HAS REASONABLE SUSPICION TO BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY IS BEING OPERATED AS AN STR WITHOUT A LICENSE, OR IF THE PROPERTY HAS HAD A STR PERMIT IN THE PAST AND IT'S BEEN REVOKED DURING THE LAST 24 MONTHS, THEN THE CITY CAN PLACE A SIGN. THEY DON'T HAVE TO, BUT THEY CAN PLACE A SIGN IN THE RIGHT OF WAY PARKWAY EASEMENT OR NEAR THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE FOR CERTAIN UNPERMITTED, SUSPENDED OR REVOKED STR SITUATIONS. SO THE IDEA IS THERE. THAT'S THE NOTICE. IF YOU SHOW UP, YOU RENT PROPERTY FROM SOMEBODY, YOU SHOW UP AND YOU SEE A SIGN OUT FRONT THAT SAYS, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT A REGISTERED SHORT TERM RENTAL, WITH THE CITY, OCCUPYING THIS PROPERTY AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL IS A VIOLATION OF LOCAL ORDINANCE. THEY PUT YOU ON NOTICE THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE OCCUPYING THIS PROPERTY. AND IF YOU DO, AND YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO OCCUPY IT, AND THEN A NEIGHBOR COMPLAINS BECAUSE YOU'RE HOSTING A LOUD PARTY OR YOU'RE BEING LOUD, THE POLICE SHOW UP. IT GIVES THE POLICE A TOOL IF THEY NEED TO, TO ASK THOSE PEOPLE TO LEAVE THE PREMISES BECAUSE THEY'RE UNLAWFULLY OCCUPYING THE PROPERTY, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO ENOUGH INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE THAT IT IS BEING OPERATED AN STR. SO THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO DO THEIR INVESTIGATIONS THAT THEY'RE GOOD AT DOING ON SITE, BUT IT GIVES THEM THAT TOOL THAT THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE, AND THAT IS TO BREAK UP THOSE BAD ACTORS THAT ARE HOSTING PARTIES FOR STRS THAT DO NOT, THAT ARE NOT LICENSED. AND THEN ALSO THE THIRD ONE IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF THIS. AND THIS IS REALLY JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE TO ASSIST CITY STAFF. IT CLARIFIES THAT A SHORT TERM RENTAL REQUIRES A SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PERMIT WITH A WRITER. 
          CURRENTLY, IT'S JUST A SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PERMIT. IT DOESN'T REALLY CLEARLY IDENTIFY THAT THIS IS ALSO A SHORT TERM RENTAL. SO THIS WILL ENABLE THIS WRITER TO BE ATTACHED TO THE PERMIT. IT ALSO DOES SOMETHING ELSE. IF WE REVOKE A SINGLE FAMILY PERMIT CURRENTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE OPERATING UNLAWFUL STR OR THEY'RE DOING A WAY THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE, THEN THAT REVOKES THEIR PRIVILEGE TO RENT IT AS A SINGLE AS A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PROPERTY, A LONG TERM RENTAL PROPERTY, AND THAT THIS DISINCENTIVIZES THEM TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO MOVE ON BECAUSE WE'VE STRIPPED THEM OF THEY'VE MADE QUITE AN INVESTMENT IN SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES. AND THEY THEY DEPEND ON THAT RENTAL INCOME TO PAY OFF THAT INVESTMENT. AND SO THIS INCENTIVIZES THEM TO, WE CAN SAY AS A CITY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO REVOKE OR REVOKE YOUR RIGHT TO DO THIS AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL. WE'RE STILL GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO DO IT AS A TRADITIONAL RENTAL. AND THESE TRANSITORY RENTALS ARE REALLY THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. THERE'S A DIFFERENT ATTITUDE, A DIFFERENT MINDSET AND APPROACH TO TRANSITORY OCCUPANTS OF A RENTAL PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO LONG TERM 
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OCCUPANTS OF RENTAL PROPERTY. THEY JUST DON'T TREAT THEM. THEY DON'T TREAT THE NEIGHBORS WITH THE RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO KNOW THEM. THEY HAVEN'T BUILT RELATIONSHIPS. AND SO IT'S EASIER TO OCCUPY THESE TRANSITORY RENTAL PROPERTIES IN AN IRRESPONSIBLE WAY. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. SO THAT'S THE POINT OF THE STR WRITER. THIS IS THE CURRENT ORDINANCE FRAMEWORK, THE STR USE AND REGULATIONS CONDUCT, WHILE THE PERMISSIVE PREMISES IS BEING USED AS AN STR. IT'S WHEN RESIDENTIAL AREA OR PORTION THEREOF IS OR IS ADVERTISED OR RENTED FOR LESS THAN 32 CALENDAR DAYS. OPERATIONAL RULES THEY HAVE TO HAVE LAND LINES, CONTACT INFORMATION. NEIGHBOR NO NOTICE A PLACARD IN FRONT. THERE'S ALSO. THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT NO, NO CONDUCT IS BEING. THAT'S OCCURRING ON THE PREMISES IS PROHIBITED CONDUCT THAT'S LISTED IN CHAPTER 26. IT'S GOT SPECIAL RULES FOR MINORS FOR LENGTH OF STAY. 
          CURRENTLY THE LENGTH OF STAY. THE MINIMUM LENGTH OF STAY IN AN STR IS TWO NIGHTS. AND THEN OTHER GENERAL OFFENSES, INCLUDING PARKING OFFENSES. AND THEN CHAPTER 32, IT GOVERNS THE RENTAL PERMIT PROCESS AND HOW WHAT HAPPENS, THE INSPECTIONS, THE SUSPENSIONS, REVOCATIONS, HEARINGS AND POSSIBLE UTILITY CONSEQUENCES. AND AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE WITH THIS NEW ORDINANCE, THESE AMENDMENTS, YOU SEE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN A SINGLE FAMILY PERMIT WITHOUT A WRITER, AN STR WRITER, AND THEN ONE WITH IT. AND THAT'S JUST ADDRESSING THE ADMINISTRATIVE AMBIGUITY AND PERMIT LANGUAGE. SO WITH THE WRITER LANGUAGE, THE CITY STAFF SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL USE AND SHORT TERM RENTAL USE. AND IT'S STILL POSSIBLE WITH THE NEW LANGUAGE TO LOSE THE STR PRIVILEGE WITHOUT NECESSARILY PROHIBITING TRADITIONAL RENTAL USE. AND THIS IS HOW THAT WRITER WILL WORK IN PRACTICE. PROPERTY OWNER COMES IN APPLIES FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PERMIT. 
          QUESTION GETS ASKED ON THE PERMIT. IS THIS AN STR USE? IF IT IS, THE USE IS REQUESTED AND REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. THE PERMIT CARRIES AN STR WRITER AND THEN IF THERE'S NO STR WRITER APPLYING, THE PROPERTY MAY STILL BE RENTED AS AN ORDINARY SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL. 
          IF IT'S OTHERWISE COMPLIANT. AND THE QUESTION WAS ASKED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER EARLIER THIS WEEK JUST ABOUT THE NOTICE AND HOW THE NOTICES WOULD WORK. NOTICES ARE GOING TO WORK TWO DIFFERENT WAYS IN ORDER FOR THERE AN OFFENSE TO OCCUR. THE PERSON STAYING IN THIS UNLICENSED STR MUST KNOW MUST HAVE PROPER NOTICE THAT IT'S UNLICENSED, AND IT'S AN OFFENSE THAT GETS ACCOMPLISHED ONE OF TWO WAYS. ONE WAY IT GETS ACCOMPLISHED IS BY PLACING THE SIGN OUT FRONT IN THE PARKWAY OR ON THE RIGHT OF WAY, OR IN A CITY EASEMENT. SECOND WAY IT CAN HAPPEN IS THE POLICE OFFICER SHOWS UP, THE POLICE OFFICER BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY COMMON FOR BOTH CODE ENFORCEMENT, POLICE OFFICERS AND HEALTH OFFICERS TO KNOW WHERE THE PROBLEMATIC PROPERTIES ARE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THEM. AND SO IF WE HAVE IF WE'RE DEALING WITH A PROBLEMATIC PROPERTY, WE'RE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE WANTING TO PUT A SIGN OUT FRONT, LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN REVOKED OR IT'S UNLICENSED. 
          IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE PROPERTY. CITY OFFICIALS ARE AWARE OF IT. AND SO THE OTHER WAY IT CAN HAPPEN, IF THERE'S NOT A SIGN OUT FRONT BECAUSE IT JUST POPS UP. WE WEREN'T AWARE THEY WERE EVEN RENTING AN STR, BUT WE LEARNED THAT THE POLICE OFFICER OR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER CAN GIVE THEM VERBAL NOTICE AND SAY, Y'ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND, UNDER OUR ORDINANCE, IT'S UNLAWFUL TO OCCUPY THIS PREMISES IF IT'S BEING RENTED TO YOU AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, AND THAT PLACES THEM ON NOTICE IF THEY FAIL TO LEAVE AFTER BEING PLACED ON NOTICE. AND THAT IS AN OFFENSE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE POLICE STORM IN AND CAN ARREST EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSE. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. IT'S A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR. IT DOESN'T MEAN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER CAN RUSH, RUSH IN AND ARREST ANYBODY. THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS NO ARREST AUTHORITY. WHAT IT MEANS IS, IS THAT IT GIVES US A TOOL, THOUGH, TO INTERVIEW SOMEBODY IN OUR INTERVIEW WHERE IF THEY ARE OCCUPYING IT UNLAWFULLY, THEY CAN GIVE US INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER IF THEY'RE LEASING IT. 
          AND THAT INFORMATION THEY GIVE US IS NOT HEARSAY BECAUSE IT'S A STATEMENT AGAINST THEIR PENAL INTEREST. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT EVIDENTIARY TOOL FOR PROSECUTORS AND FOR MY OFFICE TO USE IF WE HAVE TO TAKE CIVIL ACTION, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT IT'S TOUGH TO GET PEOPLE TO COOPERATE WHEN WE'RE TAKING EITHER CRIMINAL ACTION OR CIVIL ACTION AGAINST THESE PEOPLE AND GIVING STATEMENTS THAT THEY WANT. THEY WANT TO TAKE TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY AND SHOW UP IN COURT AND USUALLY A HALF A DAY TO TO BE A WITNESS. AND THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME IN AND FILL OUT A, A AFFIDAVIT. THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TAKE DEPOSITIONS. AND SO THIS IS A WAY TO HELP US WITH THAT EVIDENTIARY ISSUE THAT 
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SOMETIMES POPS UP. AND THE ORDINANCE DESCRIBES EXACTLY WHAT THE LANGUAGE NEEDS TO BE ON THE SIGN IN FRONT. IT'S GOT TO BE PLACED IN A PROMINENT PLACE, IN A CONSPICUOUS PLACE ON THE PROPERTY OUT FRONT, OR IF THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE PROPERTY IS NOT OUT FRONT, IN FRONT OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE, AS LONG AS THAT'S IN A RIGHT OF WAY OR AN EASEMENT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHEN A CITY MAY PLACE A NOTICE SIGN. WHEN IT'S BEEN THEIR PERMIT, THEY HAD A PERMIT, BUT IT GOT SUSPENDED OR R R REV. THEN WE CAN PLACE A NOTICE ON THEIR OR THE S S SECONONOND O OF WE HAVE REASON TOELIEVE TH REALLY. REASONABLE BELIEF THAT THE PREMISES MAY BE OPERATED, REASONABLE SUSPICION USED OR OCCUPIED AS AN STR WITHOUT A VALID PERMIT. AND THEN AGAIN TALKS ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF THE LOCATIONS OF THE NOTICE. AND THEN THE THIRD, THE PROBABLY THE FOURTH THING THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL DO IS THE NEW TAMPERING OFFENSE PROTECTS THE NOTICE PROCESS. WE STICK A SIGN OUT FRONT IN THE PARKWAY. THE OWNER SHOWS UP, SEES THE SIGN OUT IN THE. IN THE PARKWAY, HE REALIZES HE OR SHE REALIZES THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE TENANTS SHOW UP THAT AFTERNOON. IF THEY SEE THE SIGN, THEY MAY WANT TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT. THEY MAY WANT TO ASK FOR MONEY BACK. HE REMOVES THE SIGN OR HE TAMPERS WITH THE SIGN. THAT'S AN OFFENSE. CLASS C MISDEMEANOR. IT'S A A A A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR. THAT MEANS IT'S A TICKET. IT'S A CITATION. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S. IT'S NOT A JAILABLE OFFENSE, ALTHOUGH YOU COULD BE PLACED, YOU COULD BE ARRESTED. YOU WON'T SERVE TIME IN THE COUNTY JAIL IF YOU'RE FOUND GUILTY OF IT. EVERYTHING ELSE REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE. OTHER THAN THOSE FOUR THINGS. IT'S THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. IT'S TARGETED. IT'S EXIST REALLY WITHIN THE STR FRAMEWORK THAT YOU A PASSED LAST YEAR. AND THAT LARGELY REMAINS IN PLACE OTHER THAN THE FOUR ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT. AND THAT IS. THE PERMIT, THE STR PERMIT, THE NOTICE, THE OCCUPANT VIOLATION, AND THEN TAMPERING WITH THE SIGN OUT FRONT. AND THOSE ARE THE COUNCIL DECISION POINTS. AND I THINK WE'VE COVERED THOSE A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW, SO I WON'T CONTINUE. ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS DIRECTIONS PRO TEM LOOK THANK YOU. MR. ENGLAND. 
          DOES THIS MAKE CITY STAFF'S JOB EASIER? YES. AND I'M ALL FOR IT. I YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS NOT INTENDED FOR ANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE OBEYING THE THE STR ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE. THIS IS FOR PROBLEM PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. ACTUALLY, THAT'S GOOD NEWS. BUT WHEN THEY REACH A CERTAIN POINT, STAFF HAS TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO, TO REMEDIATE ANY PROBLEMS THAT ARE THERE. THERE ARE COURT HEARINGS, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF THINGS. AND AND THIS WILL HELP THEM MAKE THAT PROCESS MUCH SMOOTHER. SO THIS IS NOT TARGETING ANY STR THAT IS FOLLOWING OUR ORDINANCES. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT, IN MY OPINION. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PERMIT REVOCATION. DOES THAT FOLLOW THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE PROPERTY. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS THE ONE WHO GETS THE PERMIT. 
          IT'S THE PERMIT IS ATTACHED TO THE PROPER A CERTAIN PROPERTY THAT IS THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT ACTUALLY THE ISSUE. SO WHAT WOULD PREVENT A PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAS HAD AN STR PERMIT REVOKED FROM FORMING AN LLC AND SELLING THE PROPERTY BACK TO THEMSELVES, OR A FAMILY MEMBER OR SOME ONE OF THEIR BUDDIES THAT FORMS AN LLC OR, AND BASICALLY CIRCUMVENTING THE PERMIT. PROBABLY A DISCUSSION BEST LEFT FOR OFFLINE OR IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT SOME POINT. 
          OKAY, I WOULD HATE TO EDUCATE BAD ACTORS. GREAT. MAYBE THAT COULD BE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT I WILL REQUEST AT THE END OF THIS MEETING. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS? I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE WE'RE ALLOWED TO PLACE A SIGN AND A RIGHT OF WAY, BUT ALSO HAS EASEMENT. THAT COULD BE AN ACCESS EASEMENT. THAT MEAN WE'RE GOING ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY TO DO SO. OH THE EASEMENT THAT'S REALLY BELTS AND SUSPENDERS LANGUAGE. IT DEPENDS ON HOW WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S BY PLAT, SOMETIMES IT'S BY AN EASEMENT. AND IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT IT'S A RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT. IT'S JUST A GENERAL EASEMENT. QUITE FRANKLY, THE CONSTITUTION WOULD PROTECT AGAINST US GOING UP AND PLANTING A SIGN IN THE MIDDLE OF A SEWER EASEMENT THAT'S SERVING A HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THAT EXPANDS THE SCOPE OF THE EASEMENT. SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE WITHIN WHATEVER SCOPE OF RIGHTS THAT THE CITY HAS IN ORDER TO SIGN. 
          WELL, I CAN THINK OF AN INSTANCE WHERE IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT'S A UTILITY, BUT 
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THERE'S ACCESS EASEMENTS FOR FLAG LOTS, WHERE YOU GO UP AROUND TO GET TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY WOULD STILL EXPAND THE SCOPE. IF IT'S IF IT'S ONLY FOR AN ACCESS EASEMENT FOR CITY WORKERS, THEN THAT WOULD BE WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO PLANT A SIGN THERE, EVEN BY ORDINANCE. WE COULDN'T DO THAT. OKAY. AND THE APPLICATION FOR THE RENTALS IS THAT RETROACTIVE TO PUT THAT RIGHT OR THAT SHORT TERM WRITER, OR WOULD THAT BE JUST THAT'D BE GOING FORWARD? OKAY, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU HAD A QUESTION, SIR. ARE WE ON THE AIR? WELL, I I'M GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTED IN WATCHING THIS AS IT GOES FORWARD IN THE WAY OF SEEING HOW WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, IS THIS GOING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAFF? AND I DON'T KNOW, AS YOU WENT THROUGH IT, IT STILL REMAINS QUITE CUMBERSOME TO ME, NOT JUST CUMBERSOME, BUT. AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IS, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU TO TAKE ME THROUGH A SCENARIO. BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, I'M PRETTY MUCH THE ONE. EACH TIME THAT THIS HAS COME BEFORE US, THE ONE WHO'S LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID, THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK, BUT NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, IT SEEMED LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A COMPLAINT DRIVEN SITUATION. IT IS COMPLAINT DRIVEN. AND BECAUSE IT'S COMPLAINT DRIVEN, I JUST SEE SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS HERE. EVEN TAKING THE ORDINANCE OFF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. I MEAN, HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE ARE CAMERA? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, SO ALL OF THAT'S THERE, BUT I'LL JUST BE VERY INTERESTED. LET'S LET'S TRY SOMETHING. LET'S GO FORWARD WITH SOMETHING. SO THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE CAMERAS. YES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU QUICKLY LEARN IS WHEN SOMEONE APPLIES FOR AN STR PERMIT AND THEY GO AND START UP AN STR IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THEY DO NOT DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, THEY DO NOT ESTABLISH IT CORRECTLY. 
          THE NEIGHBORS WILL QUICKLY TURN AGAINST THEM. AND NO MATTER HOW RESPONSIBLE THAT THEY MAY RUN, THAT THOSE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT GOING TO LET UP. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEY WILL HAVE RING CAMERAS FOCUSED ON FRONTS OF HOUSES. THEY WILLLSO BE WILLING TO COME IN AND ACT AS WITNESSES ONCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD GETS MOTIVATED ENOUGH BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RENTING TO BAD ACTORS AND CONTINUES TO DO SO, AND DOESN'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AND DOESN'T CORRECT MAKE EFFORTS TO CORRECT THE SITUATION, THEN IT'S IT'S QUITE IMPRESSIVE HOW QUICKLY A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN ACTUALLY RALLY TOGETHER TO TRY TO GET COMPLIANCE OUT OF A PARTICULAR. MR. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER, I THINK PLEASE FORGIVE ME MY IGNORANCE ON THIS SUBJECT. WHEN SOMEONE REGISTERED OR LIKE A SITE LIKE AIRBNB OR THEY ALSO REGISTERED TO THE CITY, DO YOU KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE IF THEY REGISTER THROUGH AIRBNB, LET ME SAY IT LIKE THIS. IF THEY REGISTER THROUGH AIRBNB OR VRBO OR ONE OF THOSE SITES, YES, OFFERING THEIR HOUSE UP FOR AN STR FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL, THEN YES, THEY SHOULD BE BY LAW REGISTERED WITH THE CITY, BUT THEY CAN BE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL WITHOUT BEING ON ANY OF THOSE SITES. AND I'LL SAY THIS, WE HAVE IN THE PAST REACHED OUT TO AIRBNB AND VRBO FOR PROBLEMATIC SITES AND LET THEM KNOW THAT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS SITE IS IN VIOLATION. IT'S A REPEAT OFFENDER. IT'S IN VIOLATION OF OUR LOCAL ORDINANCES. AND THEY HAVE BEEN COOPERATIVE WITH US ABOUT TAKING THEM DOWN AND SUSPENDING THEIR ACCOUNT. SO YEAH, THAT'S MY THOUGHT PROCESS. LIKE, CAN WE GO THROUGH DIFFERENT AVENUES OF USING OUR OWN RESOURCES? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THIS WILL BE UP FOR CONSIDERATION AT TOMORROW'S MEETING. AND LET ME EXPLAIN THE TIMING OF THAT. MAYOR. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. PART OF THIS IS WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THE STR IN GARLAND AND AROUND THE METROPLEX THIS SUMMER ARE GOING TO BECOME VERY BUSY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY BIG PARTY ATMOSPHERE BECAUSE OF THE SOCCER. AND AND SO THAT'S THE RUSH ON THIS IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE WORLD CUP. I AGREE, I SAW HOMES BEING OFFERED IN GARLA AS CLOSE TO THE STADIUM. SO WE ARE 40 MILES AWAY FROM AT&T STADIUM. AND EUROPEAN OR EUROPEANS MAY NOT KNOW THAT. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. 
          [5. Real Property Transfer at Holford Road and Naaman Forest Boulevard]
REAL PROPERTY TRANSFER AT HOLFORD ROAD AND FOREST BOULEVARD. 
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AGAIN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL SHOULD BE A BRIEF ITEM. SO AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE, THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING AT THE CORNER OF HOLFORD ROAD AND GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. I'M HOPING YOU CAN SEE THE MOUSE A LITTLE BIT THERE. SO QUICK REFRESH. WE'VE GOT THE SOCCER PROJECT HAPPENING ON THIS PARCEL HERE. WE'VE GOT THE EXTENSION OF NAAMAN FOREST BOULEVARD GOING THROUGH HERE AND ALL THE WAY UP INTO. THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX HERE WHERE THE ROAD CURRENTLY TERMINATES AND THE WIDENING OF HOLFORD ROAD UP UNTIL THE PARKING LOT HERE AT THE PARK. THE PURPOSE OF THIS TRANSACTION THAT WE'RE REQUESTING PERMISSION TO ENGAGE IN IS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS AS, AS THE CITY ACQUIRED RIGHT OF WAY FOR THIS SECTION OF ROAD. IT. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED, BUT THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S KIND OF TAKEN IN THIS IN THIS TRIANGLE FASHION, AS I'LL GO TO THE EXHIBIT. SO YOU CAN SEE THE WIDENING HERE, THE EXTENSION HERE, THIS PROPERTY HERE IS THE SPRING CREEK CHURCH, APPROXIMATELY 2021 ACRES. IT IS ALSO SEPARATE AND UNRELATED PROJECT. AND ISSUE IS IT IS UNDER CONTRACT BETWEEN A BUYER AND A SELLER, WITH THE HOPES OF DEVELOPING IT SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO THIS THIS RIGHT OF WAY BIFURCATED THAT PROPERTY, LEAVING THIS KIND OF UNUSUAL TRIANGLE OFF TO THE TO THE WEST HERE, OR AT LEAST PLAN WEST. AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS A RESULT OF OUR ENGINEERS AND OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM, LOOKING AT THE CONSTRUCTABILITY OF THIS ROADWAY FROM, FROM THE, THE CREEK AREA THAT IT CROSSES HERE, GETTING BACK UP TO GRADE NEAR THE APARTMENTS, DEPENDING ON THE SECTION IS A 20 TO 30 FOOT ELEVATION DIFFERENCE. AND SO THAT DICTATES IN ORDER TO STAY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT ACQUIRED RIGHT OF WAY WAS GOING TO BE MSE WALL, WHICH IS CONCRETE WALLS. PIERS CAN BE KIND OF EXPENSIVE, PARTICULARLY AT THAT HEIGHT. AND SO THEY DID SOME WORK ON IT AND IDENTIFIED THAT THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, IF WE WERE TO ACQUIRE SOME LAND HERE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE DASHED AREA AND A LITTLE BIT HERE. AND WE SWAPPED THIS PROPERTY FOR THAT PROPERTY. WE COULD THEN DO THAT WITHOUT THE EXPENSE OF THE, OF THE MECHANICAL WALLS AND THE, AND THE PIERS. AND SO THAT BECAME A MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE APPROACH. IT'S MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS, THIS ODD SLICE HERE TAKES A CHUNK OUT OF THIS PROPERTY. AND IT RIGHT NOW IS IT'S PROPOSED AND AGAIN, HASN'T, I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW IT'S AN UNDER DEVELOPMENT BY RIGHT TYPE OF ACTIVITY ACTUALLY PROVIDES THEM SOME ABILITY HERE TO, TO WORK WITH LESS CONSTRAINT AS A RESULT OF THAT, OF THAT ANGLE THERE. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW NIGHT AS A CONSENT ITEM? AND AGAIN, WE NORMALLY, I KNOW WE DON'T LIKE TO DO THESE BACK TO BACKS, BUT IT'S ALSO A TIME SENSITIVE ISSUE. WE NEED TO START CONSTRUCTION SOON AS FALL. AND LIKEWISE, THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME. SO THAT IS THE CONSIDERATION FOR TOMORROW. A AY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS? SO LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO NAAMAN FOREST IS GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH. NOW THAT CAME IN WITHIN THE BUDGET BUDGETED AMOUNT. YES, SIR. OKAY. BECAUSE THERE WAS A QUESTION BACK MONTHS AGO THAT WHETHER THAT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH OR NOT. YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. IN TOTALITY, WE WE APPEAR TO BE IN BUDGET AND ALL THE APPROPRIATE PHASES OF ESTIMATION AT THIS TIME. AND AGAIN, NOT HAVING TO DO THE WALLS HELPS A LITTLE BIT. 
          OKAY. AND THIS SAVES US A LITTLE MONEY BY AND LETS THAT ROAD GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH, EVEN GIVING PEOPLE ANOTHER WAY TO EXIT FROM THE SOCCER FIELDS, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING IN EVERY DIRECTION. AND THEN THAT, THAT LETS US BRIDGE OVER THAT LITTLE AREA, SAVES US A LITTLE MONEY AND LETS THIS ROAD GET BUILT. YES, SIR. I FAIL TO FORGET TO MENTION THAT. 
          SO THESE THESE ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL IN SIZE. ONE IS APPROXIMATELY 0.44 ACRES. THE OTHER IS APPROXIMATELY.46. SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN KIND OF COUCHING THIS AS A SWAP. IT'S A. 
          THERE'S THERE SHOULD NOT BE NECESSARILY A MONETARY CONSIDERATION IN THIS, BUT WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTS ARE DRAFTED AGAIN SEEKING DIRECTION BY TOMORROW. SO WE CAN THEN ENGAGE THE THE PROPERTY OWNER. OKAY. VERY GOOD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR ON THAT. NO I'M SWAP IT SEEMS SEEMS TO LOGICAL TO NOT DO IT NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE ROAD GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH. MAKES MORE SENSE TO CONSIDER IT. SO VERY GOOD. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM. LOOK, I THINK THE SWAP MAKES SENSE. HOWEVER, THE PORTION THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THE SPRING CREEK CHURCH PROPERTY, IS THAT JUST GOING TO BECOME PARKING OR CAN 
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WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S LIKE TREE MITIGATION THERE SO THAT WE'RE NOT. SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE NOT BEEN HAD BECAUSE THEY ARE EQUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE EQUALLY WOODED, I BELIEVE ESSENTIALLY THIS SECTION, THEY ARE PROPOSING IN AT LEAST THEIR DRAFT AT THIS TIME IS PRIMARILY A DETENTION POND. AND SO IT JUST GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE BREATHING ROOM TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT FITS. AND THERE CAN BE SOME BUFFER IN BETWEEN THAT AND THE ROADWAY. OKAY. I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO SEE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT TURN INTO MORE CONCRETE RIGHT THERE. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. SO THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. AT THIS TIME, I DON'T BELIEVE THEIR DRAFT SHOWS THAT TO BE CONCRETE TYPE BUILD OUT, IT'S STRICTLY THEIR DETENTION. THANK YOU. 
          VERY GOOD. COUNCILMEMBER. MORE WHAT IS THE IS THAT A BRIDGE GOING ACROSS. COME COME UP THERE. RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THAT IS THE PROPOSED BRIDGE. SO RIGHT NOW NAAMAN FOREST BOULEVARD STOPS OFF OF THIS PLANT. IT STOPS RIGHT BY THE LIFETIME FITNESS. IT WOULD THEN CONTINUE PLAN NORTH CROSS HOLFORD. HOLFORD GETS WIDENED. AND THEN THIS. THEN IT WOULD CONTINUE. IT'S IT'S A BRIDGE BASICALLY IN THIS LIGHT BLUE THAT WILL THEN CONJOIN. RIGHT HERE IS WHERE THE CURRENT NAAMAN FOREST BOULEVARD TERMINATES. IN BETWEEN, A FAIRLY LARGE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX WAS BUILT SOME YEARS AGO. I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHEN. SO THIS WOULD BE THE CONTINUATION IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO ALLOW INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS ANOTHER WAY OUT FOR THE SOCCER FIELD USERS. I ASKED THAT BECAUSE IT DOES APPEAR THAT THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING PRESENTLY, BUT IF IN FACT THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THAT PARCEL OF LAND, I HEAR THE COUNCILWOMAN CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECOMING CONCRETE FOR THE. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A NATURAL THING, THAT IT COULD BE A EXTENDED PARKING OVER THERE, BUT THOSE. OF COURSE, THING THAT WILL HAPPEN DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS. SO. YES, SIR. AT THIS TIME, NEITHER THE CITY NOR THE DEVELOPER ON THAT SIDE NEED PARKING IN THAT AREA FOR ANY REASON. THAT WOULD JUST SIMPLY BE NATURAL AREA RESHAPE FOR THEIR DETENTION AND BUFFER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. YOU HEARD THIS WILL BE UP FOR CONSIDERATION TOMORROW AS WELL. 
          [ ANNOUNCE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW IS THE TIME TO ANNOUNCE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU HAD ONE FROM EARLIER. YES, SIR. STR PERMIT REVOCATION. ON A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DENTON. I'D ALSO LIKE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR COUNCIL TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT XERISCAPING OR NATIVE PLANT LANDSCAPING AND CITY LANDSCAPE SITES. THIS IS ACTUALLY COMING ABOUT FROM SOME OF THE SURF AND SWIM LANDSCAPING THAT WAS INSTALLED. 
          THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TEXAS NATIVES, WHICH REQUIRES A LOT MORE WATERING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU'RE ESCAPING IS DIFFERENT FROM NATIVE WELL, XERISCAPE OR NATIVE. YEAH. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER DENTON. I WOULD LIKE WHATEVER COMMITTEE TO REVIEW HOW FIRE MARSHAL. PLANNING AND BUILDING VIEW AND MANAGE ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS AND ITS RISK BASED REGULATION IS BORN. AND IF YOUR SPACE IS WARRANTED. THAT MIGHT BE PUBLIC SAFETY. SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM LOOK. AND THEN AT OUR FEBRUARY 3RD, 2025 MEETING, I REQUESTED A AUDIT OF CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE HIT OUR GAS LINES. INSTEAD, WE GOT A PRESENTATION ON WHAT ATMOS DOES, SO I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION, IF IT IS CONTRACTOR ISSUE OR IF IT IS BIGGEST ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NECESSARILY NEEDS TO GO TO. YEAH, IT'S YOU'RE LOOKING SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. I'M SORRY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE THE INFORMATION ON CONTRACTORS THAT ARE HITTING OUR GAS LINES. NOW, WE DON'T OWN GAS LINES. SO IS IT IN OUR CITY? OKAY, OKAY. VERY GOOD. 
          WHOEVER IS HITTING GAS LINESESN OUR CITY. OKAY. AND. BECAUSE THERE'S A DISCUSSION, IF IT'S BECAUSE THE TEST ISN'T MARKING THEM, RIGHT. OR THE CONTRACTOR. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASSESS THAT SITUATION. IS IT A REPEAT CONTRACTOR THAT'S HITTING OUR GAS LINES? IS IT AN ISSUE WITH 
          [03:00:04]
US IN LIGHT OF DALLAS'S RECENT EXPLOSION, WHICH WE HAVE ALSO EXPERIENCED IN OUR CITY? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR PART IN BEING PROACTIVE, AND IF IT IS A CONTRACTOR SITUATION, THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT CONONTRACTOR VERSUS SOUNDS LIKE A BRIEFING OVER IT THAT. SO SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR YOU WANT THIS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WHERE WE PRESENT ON THIS OR YOU'RE LOOKING FOR JUST OKAY, FINE. WE'LL DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE SECOND BY. OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER THING. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IN 
          [ EXECUTIVE SESSION]
TOUCH IF WE NEED, BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING. SO WITH THAT BEING OUR LAST ITEM, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING ATTORNEY CLIENT MATTERS CONCERNING PRIVILEGED AND UNPRIVILEGED CLIENT INFORMATION RELATED TO THE LEGAL PARARAMETERS OF DETERMINIG ZONING AND LAND USE CASES BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. 
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