Jun 08, 2026 Plan Commission

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JUNE 8TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR CUSTOM. WE COMMISSIONERS START A MEETING WITH A PRAYER AND A PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US. WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, IN NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. SO IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME, DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR CITYTY AND ITS CITIZENS. WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE FOR ALL OF THOSE INVOLVED, AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT SERVE US IN THE STATE, IN THE COUNTRY, IN UNIFORM, AND FAMILIES OF THOSE IN UNIFORM AS THEY PROTECT US AND OUR RIGHTS. AND WE ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER EVERYBODY HERE TONIGHT AND THEIR FAMILIES AS WE GO ON THROUGH THE REST OF THIS WEEK AND MONTH. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL, GOOD EVENING AND. WELL. GOOD EVENING. IT'S BEEN A MONTH SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE, SO I SEE ALL OF OUR FANS ARE OUT HERE AGAIN. I DO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY SHOWING UP.

ALL RIGHT. IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK TONIGHT, THERE ARE YELLOW STICKER CARDS OUT ON THE TABLE OR AT THE FRONT HERE THAT YOU CAN FILL OUT. AND TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY, AND I CAN CALL YOUR NAME OUT THEN. AND WHEN YOU COME UP, IF YOU'LL PLEASE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE, WE NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS. APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES.

YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP SUCH AS A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION OR SOMETHING. WE WILL ALLOW MORE TIME. AND AFTER ALL THE SPEAKERS, IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO COME BACK, WE ALLOW TIME FOR THEM TO ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS. BUT AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND

[a. May 11, 2026 Plan Commission Minutes]

[a. Z 26-09 Shan Namkeen, Inc. (District 8)]

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THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ALL SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. TO THE NORTH IS AN EXISTING HEAVY MANUFACTURING USE. TO THE WEST IS A BATCHING PLANT USE TO THE EAST, A RECYCLING COLLECTION CENTER AND TO THE SOUTH AND AUTOMOBILE REPAIR MAJOR USE.

THE PROPOSED FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE USE IS SIMILAR IN NATURE AND INTENSITY TO THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS. OVERALL, THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS TRANSIT IENTED CENTER DESIGNATION, WHICH ENVISIONS CONCENTRATED HIGHER DENSITY, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH LIVE WORK, PLAY SHOP OPPORTUNITIES, AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

THE PRODUCTION AND PACKAGING OF SHELF SNACK PRODUCTS SUPPORTS THE WORK COMPONENT OF THIS DESIGNATION. THE REQUEST IS THEREFORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. HERE WE CAN SEE SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE TAKEN FROM RANGE DRIVE. THE PROPERTY CONTAINS A SINGLE MULTI-TENANT BUILDING. ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT FOR APPROXIMATELY TEN YEARS AND DURING THAT TIME THE SITE'S CONDITION DETERIORATED DUE TO LACK OF MAINTENANCE. THE LAST TENANT OF SUITE 201 B WAS ALSO A FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE USE, MEANING THE SUITES INTERIOR LAYOUT, FEATURES AND EQUIPMENT ARE WELL SUITED FOR THE TYPE OF OPERATIONS NEEDED FOR THIS TYPE OF USE. THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THE EXISTING ON SITE IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS WHERE THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO INSTALL 32 SHRUBS AND TWO CANOPY TREES ALONG THE RANGE DRIVE FRONTAGE THAT WOULD BE IN THE LOWER PART OF THE CONCEPT PLAN. THAT'S A. THAT WHOLE AREA IS IS A LONG RANGE DRIVE. THE APPLICANT ALSO PROPOSES THE FOLLOWING SIX DESIGN ELEMENTS ON THE STREET FACING BUILDING FACADE. AS SHOWN ON THESE REFERENCE ELEVATIONS, SPECIFICALLY AWNINGS, RECESSED ENTRY, DISTINCTIVE LIGHTING, PLANTERS, OUTDOOR BENCHES AND ORNAMENTAL FACADE TRIMMINGS TO ENHANCE THE VISUAL QUALITY OF THE STREETSCAPE AND REJUVENATE THE BUILDING. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A SUP TIME PERIOD OF TEN YEARS AND ADDITIONAL TIME TO COMPLETE THE PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS, GIVEN THE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IT ENTAILS IN ACCORDANCE TO THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINES, STAFF RECOMMENDS AN SUP TIME PERIOD OF 5 TO 8 YEARS IN THE PROPOSED SITE. IMPROVEMENTS TO BE INSTALLED WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THE SUP REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONT YARD AND SIX FACADE DESIGN ELEMENTS TO IMPROVE THE STREETSCAPE ALONG RANGE DRIVE TO BE INSTALLED WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SUP REQUEST FOR A FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE USE FOR A TIME PERIOD OF 5 TO 8 YEARS. WE SENT OUT A MOMENT. WE SENT OUT A 58 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND RECEIVED ONLY ONE RESPONSE OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING SIR. HOW'S IT GOING? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU DOING? DOING WELL. HEY, I'VE GOT THREE

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY PLAY AROUND WITH THE VERBIAGE TO TO DO THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. YES. MR. SORRY. WHEN WAS THIS SUP APPLICATION BEGUN? WHAT DATE? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO. OKAY. I WENT BECAUSE I WENT AND LOOKED AT DCAD AND I THINK THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED LAST MAY. SO I GUESS THERE'S THERE GOT HAVE GOTTEN UP TO THIS POINT IN APPLYING FOR THE SUP FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE. SO I WAS, I WAS WONDERING HOW LONG IT HAD BEEN. YEAH, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE OF THE TIMELINE WITH THE PURCHASE AND THE OWNERSHIP. I'M SURE THE, THE APPLICANT WILL BE HAPPY TO TO ANSWER THAT. BUT YEAH, THE SUP APPLICATION DIDN'T WASN'T SUBMITTED TILL A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. IF IT WASN'T TWO MONTHS, IT WAS THREE, BUT IT WASN'T MORE THAN THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND TO PIGGYBACK ON HIS

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AND THE WAY THE ONE YEAR TIMELINE IS SET UP, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN INTO THE CONDITION, IT'S ONLY FOR THE LANDSCAPING. SO THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO IMPROVE THE BUILDING AND THE ELEVATION BEFORE THEY GET A CO CORRECT. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT. AND IF YOU COULD BRING UP THE SLIDE OF THE BUILDING PLAN AND THE SITE PLAN OF ARCHITECT ENEMIES BEGINNING TO TAKE OVER AND ASK QUESTIONS. YEAH, THAT ONE THERE IS SUITE B, THE RED OUTLINE OR YES, THE SUITE WOULD BE THE RED OUTLINE. AND THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING IS THE BLUE OUTLINE.

OKAY. ARE THEY TAKING THE WHOLE BUILDING? NO, JUST THE RED PORTION. OKAY. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SHIP OUT OF THERE? THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH PART OF THE BLUE PORTION TO SHIP. SO THAT WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE MAIN. AND THAT WHOLE UNIT. WELL NO, THEY'VE GOT ONE DOCK HERE. YOU'RE RIGHT. BUT IT SEEMS TO BE ACCESSED. IS THERE AN ENTRANCE ON THAT LEFT SIDE INTO THE BUILDING? I BELIEVE PART OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY'VE MADE IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO WAS ADDING THAT ONE LOADING, BECAUSE THAT ENTRANCE ARE SHOWN IS INTO THE BLUE PORTION OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT. YEAH. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. IT MIGHT BE. YOU KNOW, IN THESE MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS, SOMETIMES THE ENTRANCE IS THROUGH A SEPARATE SUITE BECAUSE NOT ALL SUITES ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU JUST WANTED TO TRY TO KEEP THAT PROCESSING USE WITHIN THAT ONE AREA OF THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF THE WHOLE BUILDING.

ONE ONE QUICK CLARIFICATION, THE REQUIRED ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS. THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING THAT THOSE BE INSTALLED WITHIN ONE YEAR OF ISSUANCE OF THE CO, BUT THAT COULD BE. I UNDERSTAND, PLAN COMMISSION'S CONCERN ABOUT TRACKING THAT RIGHT. IF PLAN COMMISSION WISHES TO RECOMMEND DOING IT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A CO STAFF WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT. OKAY. OR THE VERBIAGE IS SUGGESTED BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE DONE. THE. AT ONE YEAR IT IS SUBJECT TO THAT STUFF BEING DONE AND MAY GO AWAY AFTER THAT. I THINK THAT WOULD THAT WOULD WORK TO. INSTEAD OF TYING IT TO THE CO, MAYBE IT'LL BE BETTER TYING IT WITH THE SUP BECAUSE WE'RE. WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS AN SUP CASE. SO THE SUP BECOMES NULL AND VOID IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE CONDITIONS, WHICH IS THE CASE NOT NULL AND VOID, BUT WHICH THEY'LL BE IN VIOLATION ANYWAY IF THEY DON'T DO IT. BUT SEIZURE OF THE CEO IN RELATION TO THE CONDITIONS, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THAT WOULD OPERATE. MAYBE CITY ATTORNEY CAN HELP US WITH THAT. OKAY, OKAY. YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT IS AT ONE YEAR WITHIN ISSUANCE. THAT LAST LINE. GOT IT. THANK YOU. I MISSED THAT. ALL RIGHT.

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THE WHENEVER THE ORDINANCE IS MADE, IT'LL JUST BE IT'LL BE SPECIFICALLY TO THAT SUITE. IT WON'T IT WON'T BLEED INTO THE OTHER SUITE. SO THE OTHER SUITES ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO FOOD PROCESSING. THEY WOULD NEED AN SUP OF THEIR OWN. SO ALL, ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S THAT THIS APPLICANT IS GOING TO DO IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THAT RED SPACE, THE PREPARATION STORAGE, CORRECT? YES. BRINGING MATERIALS IN, TAKING MATERIALS OUT. YES. IN THAT AREA. OKAY.

YEAH. GOOD. QUESTION. DO YOU KNOW IF AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY HAS BEEN CONDUCTED ON THIS PROPERTY? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS, DID YOU STILL WANT TO CHIME IN? I THINK MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. MIRANDA? YES, HELLO. JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION QUESTION. SO BUT FOR THE BLUE LINES, JUST TO CONFIRM, THEY THEY THEY PURCHASED THIS WHOLE PROPERTY, RIGHT. INCLUDE THE RED AND THE BLUE. IS THAT CORRECT OR NOT? SURE. NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. I DON'T THINK SO. BUT I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT ADDRESS THAT. I JUST WANT TO CHECK WITH THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE. IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU. COME ON DOWN AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. HELLO. HIGH COMMISSIONER AND CHAIRMAN AND WOMEN. MY NAME IS SEAN PATEL.

I'M ON HERE ON BEHALF OF 201 RANGE DRIVE. SO I REPRESENT OUR T I SNACKS. WE'RE A LOCAL FAMILY OWNED FOOD MANUFACTURING BUSINESS. WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN GARLAND SINCE 2010 ON AT 2731 NATIONAL CIRCLE. AND GARLAND HAS BEEN A MASSIVE PART OF OUR GROWTH AND WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE. WE'VE HAD OUR EYES ON 201 RANGE DRIVE FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW. IT WAS AN OLD TYSON FOODS MANUFACTURING BUILDING, WHICH WAS EVENTUALLY WHICH WAS ABANDONED ABOUT A DECADE AGO. SO MOST OF IT WAS EMPTY. THERE WAS A BUNCH OF TRASH. SO OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AS WELL AS CAPITAL, REALLY CLEANING UP THE BUILDING, CLEANING UP THE OUTSIDES OF IT, AS WELL AS JUST DOING A LOT OF COSMETIC UPGRADES, AS WELL AS LIKE COMPLIANCE THINGS THAT WE LIKE FIRE SPRINKLERS AND SUCH.AS SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS KNOW JERRY TROTTER FROM CODE COMPLIANCE WHO RETIRED, BUT WE LIKE TO SAY WE MADE JERRY A REALLY HAPPY MAN JUST BECAUSE OF HOW MANY CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES WERE THERE BEFORE. SOME QUESTIONS THAT I KNOW WERE BROUGHT UP BEFORE I WANT TO ADDRESS BEFORE I YIELD MY TIME TO YOU GUYS IN TERMS OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, YES, WE DID DO A PHASE ONE ESA BEFORE WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND EVERYTHING WAS CLEAR. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HELPED US GET INTO THIS BUILDING AND GAVE US THE NEXT STEP TOWARDS IT. IN TERMS OF PROPOSED USE, IT'S ALL GOING TO BE FOOD MANUFACTURING. WE DON'T EVER FORESEE A CUSTOMER COMING INTO THE FACILITY. SO IT'S ONLY FOR MANUFACTURING PURPOSES SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

WE'RE JUST EXPANDING FROM OUR EXISTING 13,000FT■S THAT WE HAVE TO THIS 45,000FT■S, JUST AS PART OF OUR GROWTH. AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS.

SO I GUESS IF ANYONE GETS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT HOW THE BUILDING LOOKED ON, LIKE GOOGLE MAPS, MAYBE A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE MESS. THERE WAS TRASH EVERYWHERE, DEBRIS EVERYWHERE. THERE WERE THESE TWO REALLY RUSTED AND UGLY LOOKING TANKS, A CHILLER ON THE TOP THAT WAS SUPER RUSTED. SO WE'VE ALREADY SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TRYING TO MAKE THE BUILDING LOOK AS NICE AS POSSIBLE. WE WANTED TO INCORPORATE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS ANYWAYS, BUT WE WERE SUGGESTED BY PLANNING AND ZONING TO ADD A HANDFUL. SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT THESE SIX IN PARTICULAR. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING THE BUILDING LOOK NICER. BUT I JUST DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BEAUTIFICATION ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY ALREADY, AND HONESTLY, JUST DECREASING THE AMOUNT OF LIKE HOMELESSNESS, WALKING AROUND THE PARKING LOT AND THE FRONT, MAKING SURE IT'S LOCKED UP AND SUCH. SO WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT GETTING THAT DONE. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE? ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER

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IT'S JUST THAT WE HAD TO KIND OF MAKE IT BETTER, GET RID OF ALL THE TRASH, DO A LOT OF CLEANING JUST SO IT'S LIKE A SANITARY CONDITION AND SUCH, RIGHT? SO THE, SO THE PRODUCTION EQUIPMENT, A LOT OF IT WAS STILL THERE. OH, NO, THE PRODUCTION EQUIPMENT WASN'T THERE. TYSON LEFT WITH THAT EQUIPMENT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING IN OUR OWN LIKE STATE OF THE ART EQUIPMENT TO DO THIS MANUFACTURING. QUICK PERSONAL STORY. WHEN I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, I'M IN GRADE SCHOOL. SHELTON'S FROZEN FOOD, I BELIEVE, WORKED OUT OF THAT BUILDING. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT GOES BACK INTO THE 50S, I GUESS. SO THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE, IT'S BEEN THERE. AND I THINK TYSON ENDED UP BUYING THEM WHO GOT BOUGHT BY ADVANCED FOODS.

AND THEN KIND OF THAT'S AFTER THEY LEFT IS WHEN THIS GAP STARTED, WHEN THE BUILDING STARTED HAVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR BUYING THIS BUILDING. THANK YOU FOR THE DIRECTION YOU'RE HEADING. AS FAR AS THE TIME ON THE SUP, I KNOW STAFF IS RECOMMENDED 5 TO 8. IN YOUR ORIGINAL WRITE UP, YOU YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A TEN AND NO NO TERM LIMIT SET ON IT, BUT YOU HAVE ACQUIESCED TO TEN YEARS, I BELIEVE. IS THAT DOES THAT WORK WELL WITHIN YOUR BUSINESS AND FINANCIAL PLAN? SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO KIND OF PUSH BACK AT PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE WENT WITH TEN. I THINK WE HAVE AN INDEFINITE ONE RIGHT NOW AT OUR OLD GARLAND PROPERTY. OPTIMALLY, IF POSSIBLE, I WOULD LIKE TO PUSH THAT 10 TO 15. IF I DO HAVE THE BLESSING OF THE COMMISSION, I WOULD BE GLAD TO PERSONALLY RECOMMEND THAT I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH I'M SORRY. OH, ONE OTHER QUESTION. AND I MENTIONED THIS TO MR. STOREY WHEN I WAS VISITING WITH HIM ABOUT THIS PACKAGE. I KNOW THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR FOR PLANTS TO BE PLACED THERE, BUT I KNOW IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, I BELIEVE EVEN COUNSEL SATURDAY TALKED ABOUT BEING WISE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT KIND OF PLANTS BECAUSE IT TAKES WATER TO WATER THEM. AND WATER IS BECOMING A NEW SUBJECT ITEM. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT ANY WHAT DO WE CALL THE PLANTS THAT DON'T HAVE TO BE WATERED? IS THERE A DROUGHT RESISTANT TYPE PLANTS RATHER THAN GREEN PLANTS, OR PERHAPS EVEN SOME LARGE BOULDERS OR SOMETHING? WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE IF THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO TO THE CITY'S CODE AND FOR CODE OR SOMETHING? I'M JUST I'M JUST THINKING OF SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATER AND TAKE CARE OF ACTUALLY ENCOURAGES THE USE OF DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS. SO YEAH, DEFINITELY. OKAY, SO I'LL RAISE THAT POINT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE. YOU CAN PUT DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DYING IN THESE THE NEXT FEW MONTHS OF 110 DEGREE DAYS THAT WE HAVE. SO HONESTLY, YOU MADE OUR JOB EASIER. SO MIGHT AS WELL PUT THOSE JUST FOR THE EASE OF MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? SO YEAH, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CARES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE? IMAGINE, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, YOU WISH TO MAKE A MOTION. YOU'VE GOT A LIVE MIC.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M GOING TO NEED SOME HELP ON THIS MOTION, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME IDEAS FLOATED AROUND THE THE DAIS HERE, BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THIS PLAN WITH A 15 YEAR'S U. P AND REEMPHASIZE AGAIN THAT THE WEATHER RESISTANT PLANTS COULD BE USED RATHER THAN GREEN PLANTS IF THEY SHOULD LIKE THE PART I'M NOT SURE ABOUT. WHAT WE NEED TO SAY IS THE THE EXTERIOR FINISHINGS THAT THAT ARE IN THE PLAN. MISS NABILA, COULD YOU HELP ME WITH THAT? I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING AND THE BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS BEING DONE WITHIN ONE YEAR, AND THEN ASKED STAFF TO CRAFT IT TO WHERE IT'S. SOME KIND OF REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. IF THEY DO NOT COMPLY, WITHIN A YEAR, WE'LL COME UP WITH THE LANGUAGE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO SOME LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS. IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, WE'LL WORK WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO COME UP WITH THAT CONDITION. WE WANT TO MAKE IT. WE WANT TO MAKE THESE GUYS SUCCESSFUL AND GIVE THEM THE ABILITY. BUT WE'RE TELLING OURSELVES AND THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. SO WILL IT BE NECESSARY TO. IT WON'T BE NECESSARY TO INCLUDE DROUGHT RESISTANT IN THE MOTION, WILL IT? BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THE GDC, GDC, IT'S ENCOURAGED. I WOULD IF THAT'S WHAT YOU LIKE, I WOULD SAY, AND I, I WOULD INCLUDE ENCOURA THE DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS SHOULD THE APPLICANT CHOOSE TO GO THAT DIRECTION. ALL RIGHT. SIR, DO YOU WANT ME TO SUMMARIZE YOUR MOTION FOR YOU? IF YOU CAN. OKAY. MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE FOR 15 YEAR'S U. P WITH THE PROVISION THAT ANY ARCHITECTURAL AND LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS BE DONE WITHIN A YEAR, AND STAFF WILL CRAFT A MECHANISM TO ENSURE THAT, AND THAT THEY ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO USE DROUGHT RESISTANT LANDSCAPING. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND I SEE COMMISSIONER ABLE SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NEED ME TO REPEAT THE MOTION? NOPE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ABLE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR 15 YEAR TIME FRAME WITH LANDSCAPING AND ARCHITECTURAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE WITHIN A YEAR'S TIME FRAME AND DROUGHT RESISTANT LANDSCAPING BEING ENCOURAGED. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. NEXT

[b. Z 26-12 Sweetness Sweets (District 1)]

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YEAH. THANK YOU. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 410 TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD. AND THE WITHIN THE FIREWHEEL TOWN CENTER. THE APPLICANT IS SWEETNESS SWEETS IN THE PROPOSED BUSINESS WOULD OCCUPY ABOUT 1535 SQUARE FOOT TENANT SPACE WITHIN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING. AS SHOWN ON THE LOCATION MAP. THE SITE IS WITHIN THE FIREWHEEL TOWN CENTER, WHICH CONTAINS A MIX OF RETAIL, COMMERCIAL, RESTAURANT, ENTERTAINMENT AND OFFICE USES.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY I IS CATEGORIZED S REGIONAL CENTERS, AND REGIONAL CENTERS ARE INTENDED TO SERVE AS A DESTINATION ORIENTED AREAS THAT PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL, ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS. THE. THE. ON THE RIGHT SIDE. RIGHTMOST SIDE ON THE FIRST TWO PICTURES IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP AND ALSO THE LAYOUT SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND ALSO YEAH, THIS REQUEST INCLUDE ALSO INVOLVES A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT WITH THE SUP. THE PD AMENDMENT IS TO ALLOW THE ESTABLISHMENT TO BE LOCATED WITHIN 500FT OF ANOTHER TATTOOING OR BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT. AND THIS MAP HERE SHOWS THE ANOTHER TATTOOING ESTABLISHMENT AND ALSO THE SUBJECT LOCAL PROPERTY.

REGARDING THE SUP PROVISION REQUEST, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED AN INDEFINITE SCP TERM TIME PERIOD. HOWEVER, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD AND ALSO THE CITY'S SUP TIME PERIOD. GUIDE RECOMMENDS A RANGE OF 5 TO 8 YEARS FOR TENANT SPACES, WITH AN EXISTING WITHIN AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT DO NOT INCLUDE ANY SITE IMPROVEMENTS. SINCE THIS PROPOSAL CONSISTS ONLY OF AN INTERIOR FINISH OUT AND DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY MAJOR OR ANY EXTERIOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS, STAFF FINDS A FIVE YEAR TERM APPROPRIATE ALSO. YEAH. REGARDING THE PD AMENDMENT REQUEST, SECTION 2.52 OF GDC REQUIRES A MINIMUM SEPARATION DISTANCE OF 500FT BETWEEN TWO TATTOOING OR BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENTS. THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO ESTABLISHMENTS IS CURRENTLY ABOUT 420FT.

THEREFORE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PD AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THIS REDUCED SEPARATION DISTANCE. OVERALL, THE STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENT WHILE TATTOOING AND BODYING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENTS ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED AS A PREFERRED USE WITHIN REGIONAL CENTERS, STAFF BELIEVES THAT A BODY PIERCING STUDIO LIMITED TO BODY PIERCING SERVICES WILL CONTRITE TO THE DIVERSITY OF SERVICE SERVICES AVAILABLE WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER. FIREWHEEL TOWN CENTER WITHOUT ALTERING THE PHYSICAL CHARACTER OF THE SITE. SO THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE S P FOR A FIVE FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD AND ALSO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT ESTABLISHMENT BE LIMITED TO BODY PIERCING SERVICES ONLY AND THAT TATTOOING SERVICES BE PROHIBITED. SO WE HAVE MAILED OUT 302 NOTICES TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WE RECEIVED TWO AGAINST THE REQUEST WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WITH THIS, I'M OPEN TO THE QUESTION. ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE IN. THE APPLICANT CAN

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HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY OR SEE IF WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN AT THEES. CENTER FOR OVER TEN YEARS NOW, SO WE'VE SERVICED THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YOUNG PEOPLE. COME THROUGH THERE AND HIRED SEVERAL OF THE YOUNG LADIES THERE. SO WE'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT TEN YEARS, WHICH IS THE NEW. BACK THEN, THE RULES WERE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO NOW WE'RE REQUESTING THIS PERMIT TO HAVE PIERCINGS AT THAT LOCATION. IT DOES. IT PUTS YOU IN A MINDSET OF LIKE ECLAIRS. IT'S A LITTLE JEWELRY STORE. YOU GO INSIDE, BUT WE ALSO OFFER LITTLE PIERCINGS LIKE EARS, NOSE, THEY DOING ALL THE, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL NOSE, BELLY, THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL IN THE LOCATION. SO WE'RE, WE'RE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO A PERMIT NOW FOR THAT.

COMMISSIONER. SO ANY QUESTIONS. SO YOU JUST DO EVERYTHING BASICALLY FROM THE CHIN UP. WE DO EVERYTHING WAIST UP. WAIST UP. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I CAN FILL IN THE BLANKS FROM THERE.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? CARE TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SPEAK ON THIS CASE. COMMISSIONERS. MOTION DISCUSSION. ANYBODY? THERE? COMMISSIONER. PARIS, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACCEPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF THE FIVE YEAR'S U. P AND THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ALSO WITH THE THE LOCATION OF THE FEET, THE FOOTAGE 400 AND LIMIT THE FOOTAGE SPECIFIC TO THIS LOCATION. SPECIFIC TO THIS LOCATION. CORRECT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUP FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD AND ALLOW THE SEPARATION TO BE UNDER 500FT. I BELIEVE IT'S 420, BUT CALL IT 400 FOR THIS LOCATION ONLY. AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOU WISH TO SECOND THAT. I SECOND IT.

CHAIR. ALRIGHTY. AND THEN, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, DID YOU HAVE A QUICK QUESTION? YES. IS THIS, I FORGET, IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ALSO TO LIMIT THE BODY PIERCING ONLY, CORRECT? YES. NO TATTOOING FOR CLARIFICATION. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF AN SUP WITHOUT ALLOWING TATTOOING AND ALLOWING UP AND OVER 400FT■S SEPARATION FROM ANY OTHER FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK

[c. Z 26-13 All About Permits (District 2)]

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LOCATED AT 725 EAST WALNUT STREET. THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THIS USE. CALLED A FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE USE, REQUIRES AN SUP.

ACCORDING TO THE GDC. THE APPLICANT IS ALL ABOUT PERMITS AND. THIS PROPERTY CONSISTS OF.

CONTAINS AN EXISTING 7200 AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. HISTORICALLY, THE SITE HAS BEEN OPERATED AS AN ELECTRONIC COMPONENT MANUFACTURING FACILITY AND MOST RECENTLY RECEIVED A CEO IN THE YEAR OF 2024 FOR A CHURCH USE. AS SHOWN ON THE LOCATION MAP, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG EAST WALNUT STREET WITH AN. WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL AREA AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST, SOUTH AND EAST ARE DEVELOPED WITH INDUSTRIAL USES, WHILE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOCATED IMMEDIATELY NORTH TO THE SUBJECTED SIDE. THE. IN THE FUTURE, LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS MOSTLY ORIENTED TOWARDS THE SINGLE FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND DETACHED HOUSING. WHILE THIS USE IS NOT SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED WITHIN THAT DESIGNATION, STAFF CONSIDERED THE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT AND THE ESTING INDUSTRIAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES A FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, DECORATIVE LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING ENHANCEMENTS, ADDITIONAL SCREENING INTENDED TO IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS ALONG THE WALNUT STREET AND ALSO ALONG THE MARSH DRIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND HERE IS THE ASSOCIATED CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. THE CONCEPT PLAN INCLUDES LIKE SHOWS, PLANTERS AS A PART OF THE LANDSCAPING ENHANCEMENTS ALONG THE WEST WALNUT STREET. RELOCATION AND SCREENING OF REFUSE CONTAINER AND SCREENING IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. STAFF HERE WOULD LIKE TO NOTE A FEW UPDATES. SINCE THE PUBLICATION OF THE STAFF REPORT. FIRST, REGARDING THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE SCREENING, THE APPLICANT INITIALLY CHOSE TO GO WITH THE ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE UNDER. ACCORDING TO THE SECTION 4.39 WHICH. WHICH WHICH ACTUALLY GOES WITH THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG WITH THE METAL FENCE. AFTER ADDITIONAL REVIEW WITH TRANSPORTATION, STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OPTION COULD IMPACT THE EXISTING DRIVE AISLE CONFIGURATION ON THE NORTH SIDE, AND THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE INDICATED A WILLINGNESS TO PURSUE ONE OF THE OTHER SCREENING OPTIONS PERMITTED BY THE CODE. SECOND THING, THE STAFF REPORT STATED THAT THE REFUSE CONTAINER ENCLOSURE OPENING WOULD FACE THE ALLEY. BUT FOLLOWING WITH THE CONSULTATION WITH SANITATION, STAFF WAS INFORMED THAT THE PROPOSED ORIENTATION WOULD CREATE MANEUVERABILITY ISSUES TO THE PICKUP TRUCK COLLECTION VEHICLES. THE APPLICANT IS NOW PROPOSING TO ORIENT THE ENCLOSURE TOWARDS MARSH DRI TOWARDS THE EAST SIDE, FACING THE MARSH DRIVE, AND PURSUE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE FOR THAT ELEMENT WHILE MAINTAINING ALL REQUIRED SCREENING. AND ALSO AS A PART OF THIS REQUEST, THE ALL THE ROOFTOP ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT WOULD BE SCREENED ACCORDING. ACCORDINGLY TO THE GDC. AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED AS A PART OF THIS REQUEST AND. SHOWING THE SIX

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IS THIS A TENANT OR IS THIS THE OWNER? TENANT? OKAY. AND I DO THIS TENANT I GUESS THEY REQUIRED TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE OWNER REGARDING THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, THE CHANGES TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY, OR I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE TENANT OR FOR THE APPLICANT. YEAH. OKAY. FOR ANY ZONING APPLICATIONS, THE LAND OWNER IS REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION ITSELF. WE REQUIRE THAT EVEN IF THE TENANT IS THE APPLICANT, THE LANDOWNER HAS TO CONSENT FOR THE TENANT TO APPLY FOR THE ZONING CHANGE. EVERYONE'S ENGAGED AND INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. CORRECT? PERFECT. AND THEN THE. LAST THING I FORGOT TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT THE CITY'S GOT A RECOMMENDATION OF THE 15 YEAR TIME FRAME, TIME FRAME AND 30 YEARS WOULD BE, I THINK, REALLY GOOD FOR AN APPLICANT THAT'S MAKING A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON ON DOUBLE THAT TIME.

I HAVE BEEN GETTING SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TIMELINE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, SINCE THE TIMELINE GUIDANCE HAVE BEEN LOOKED INTO BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. SO RECENTLY WE ON OUR END WOULD LIKE TO STICK TO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL HAS THE LIBERTY TO GO BEYOND THAT, BUT WE DON'T RECOMMEND DOING SO.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. DID YOU. OH, HE TOOK OVER HERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, AS USUAL, HAVE A FEW. AND SOME OF THESE WILL BE MORE FOR THE APPLICANTS SO THEY CAN BE THINKING ABOUT IT. FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY LIKE WHAT STAFF'S DOING ON ALL THESE APPLICATIONS, BRINGING SITES UP IN TERMS OF BEAUTIFICATION AND EVERYTHING. THAT'S A GOOD POLICY, AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THAT SITE PLAN. OKAY, YOU'LL SEE SIX PARKING SPOTS TO THE WEST THERE. THEY EXTEND BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE. THEY CANNOT BE COUNTED.

LAST TIME I CHECKED IS OFFICIAL PARKING SPOT. SO THAT PUTS THEM AT 32. WHEN THE REQUIREMENT IS 35. I'M OKAY WITH THEM ONLY HAVING 32 AND CONVERTING THOSE TO MORE LANDSCAPING. THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT WAS IN OUR PACKET, BECAUSE THE ONE IN OUR PACKET SHOWED SOME TREES AND VINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I QUESTIONED THAT. THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. GOOD.

AND UNDER PROPOSED SCREENING, IF THEY GO WITH A METAL ROD IRON, THEY HAVE TO PUT LANDSCAPING ON EITHER SIDE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SITE PLAN, THERE'S A TEN FOOT GAS EASEMENT THERE. YES, SIR. AND WE'VE RECENTLY SEEN IN DALLAS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU START DRILLING IN A GAS EASEMENT. AND I WOULD BE MORE IN FAVOR OF A SOLID MASONRY WALL, MAYBE WITH NO LANDSCAPING TO THIS SIDE TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PENETRATIONS IN THE. YES.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE EVEN HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT. AND THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH WHATEVER THE STAFF REQUIREMENTS ARE. YEAH, WE JUST DON'T WANT WHAT'S NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITH METAL SLATS AND BARBED WIRE.

DEFINITELY. YEAH. YEAH. IT VIOLATES ABOUT EVERY RULE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S THERE.

OKAY. THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL VERY GENERIC, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO GUARANTEE THAT THEY HAVE A 2524 FOOT DRIVE BEHIND THOSE BACK PARKING SPACES. AND AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT AND AGAIN FOR THE APPLICANT. BEING AN ARCHITECT, THAT HANDICAPPED SPACE WILL PROBABLY NEED TO MOVE CLOSER TO THE ENTRY FOR APPROVAL. AND THE QUESTION OF VOTERS. I USED TO LIVE TWO STREETS BEHIND HERE, AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S BEING PROCESSED AND ODORS. AND I THINK THE CITY HAS REQUIREMENTS FOR SCRUBBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO KEEP ODORS DOWN. BUT THERE WOULD BE CONSIDERATION WITH THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT BACK BEHIND AND. AND THEN THERE IS A NARRATIVE STATING THAT NO SLAUGHTERING OF ANIMALS WILL BE DONE WITHIN THE FACILITIES. THAT SHOULD BECOME A CONDITION FOR THE SUP, I BELIEVE. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE BECAUSE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN INCLUDE IT, BUT THE DEFINITION ITSELF ITSELF SAYS THAT SLAUGHTERING IS NOT ALLOWED, IS NOT PART OF THE. I'M GOOD TO GO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS TONIGHT. IS THE

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GOOD EVENING. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. ADDRESS, PLEASE. MY NAME IS SETH. I AM WITH ADA FOODS. I'M THE OWNER OF THE LAND, AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING SUP FOR THE LAND ON 725 EAST WALNUT STREET. SHOULD WE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FIRST, OR SHOULD I DIG INTO MY PRESENTATION RIGHT AWAY? GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR PRESENTATION. OKAY. OKAY. SO WHAT I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY OTHER DETAILS, IS THAT WE ARE A USDA REGULATED FOOD PROCESSING FACILITY. SO WE HAVE A USDA INSPECTOR ON SITE ON A DAILY BASIS, AND WE OPERATE UNDER A HACCP PROGRAM. IT'S A HAZARD ANALYSIS, CRITICAL CONTROL POINTS PROGRAM THAT DETERMINES ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT ARISE DURING FOOD PROCESSING. ALSO, THINGS LIKE ODOR WASTE MANAGEMENT. AND WE HAVE PROGRAMS AND PROTOCOLS FOR THESE IN PLACE CURRENTLY ALREADY. AND WE WILL OF COURSE ALSO PUT THEM ON ON OUR NEW LAND ON25 EAST WALNUT. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING AS YOU'VE SEEN IT BEFORE. IT'S AN OLD INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE DETAIL OF THIS BECAUSE MR. GUNDU ALREADY EXPLAINED ALL OF THAT IN DETAIL. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU MORE SO. SO OURS IS AN ENTIRELY INSIDE REMODEL. SO THIS IS WHAT WE SUGGEST. THE INSIDE OF THE NEW FACILITY COULD LOOK LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THAT AREA WHICH IS IN THE BACK. HERE IS THE PROCESSING AREA. EVERYTHING UP FRONT HERE WOULD BE OFFICES, THE PRODUCTION AREA IN THE BACK AREA IS ENTIRELY REFRIGERATED.

WE HAVE SPECIAL FILTERS, SPECIAL ASES IN PLACE THAT MAKE SURE THAT NONE THAT THE AREA IS OPERATING UNDER 50 FAHRENHEIT AT ALL TIMES. SO IT IS VERY, VERY COLD. SO THERE IS NO CHANCE FOR BACTERIA OR ANYTHING ELSE TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP IN THAT MANNER. THIS IS JUST A RENDERING THAT WE PROPOSED AS FAR AS LIKE SOME OF THE LOOKS FOR THE BUILDING CAN GO. BUT WHAT I DID WANT TO ALSO POINT OUT IS THE ROOFTOP SCREENING, THE WAY THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON SCREENING THE TOP UNITS ON TOP OF THE ROOF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC. USDA INSPECTIONS AND THE FOOD SAFETY PROGRAM THAT WE HELP HELP US NOT ONLY MAINTAIN A CERTAIN STANDARD OF PRODUCTION, BUT THEY ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOOD SAFETY IS GUARANTEED NOT ONLY FOR US BUT ALSO FOR ANYBODY ADJOINING OUR PROPERTY. SO EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS, HAPPENS INSIDE IN A TEMPERATURE CULTURAL AREA AND EVERYTHING IS DOCUMENTED AND ALSO MONITORED, CHECKED AND CONTROLLED BY A USDA INSPECTOR ON A DAILY BASIS. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN OFFICE IN OUR BUILDING. AN IMPORTANT PART THAT I DO WANT TO GET INTO DETAIL IN IS ODOR WASTE AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROLS. WE WORK WITH LICENSED DISPOSAL COMPANIES THAT COME ON A DAILY BASIS. THE WAY THAT WE DISPOSE OF OUR WASTE IS THAT, JUST TO GIVE YOU A DETAIL OF WHAT OUR PROTOCOL LOOKS LIKE, ANY WAYS THAT WE HAVE IS REFRIGERATED AND COOLED, SOMETIMES EVEN FROZEN BEFORE WE DISPOSE OF IT. AND THEN ALSO WE SPRAY IT INSIDE OF THE BAG BEFORE WE DISPOSE IT INTO THAT CONTAINER. THE CONTAINER IS EMPTIED EVERY DAY AT 530 EARLY IN THE MORNING, AND THAT CONTAINER IS SEALED AND IT IS COMPLETELY SCREENED FROM ALL SIDES. SO IT'S NOT ONLY THAT THE PUBLIC CAN'T SEE IT, IT CAN'T BE ACCESSED, BUT ALSO THAT HELPS IN MAKING SURE THAT NONE OF THESE ODORS CAN GO OUTSIDE. THE REASON WE SPRAY IT WITH CERTAIN CHEMICALS IS ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT RODENTS, OR ANY OTHER KIND OF PESTS CAN ACCESS THAT CONTAINER. AND ALSO, WE WORK WITH LICENSED PEST CONTROL COMPANIES AND ENSURING THAT THEY COME ON A WEEKLY BASIS TO MAKE SURE THOSE TRAPS ARE IN PLACE. THINGS ARE SPRAYED AS NECESSARY, AND ALSO TO ENSURE THAT OUR PEST CONTROL IS STILL INTACT. PRETTY MUCH.

FOR THE ENTIRE TRAFFIC COMPATIBILITY OF THAT AREA. ALSO, A LITTLE BIT, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS WE ARE WHOLESALE, SO WE DON'T SELL TO THE END CONSUMER. WE MAINLY

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OUR STAFF LEAVES AT AROUND 4 P.M. SO THAT LEAVES ONLY THE CLEANING STAFF UNTIL SIX 6:30 P.M. AND THAT IS THE LATEST THAT WE HAVE IN OPERATING. WE UNDERSTAND THE MIXED AREA, BUT MAINLY IT'S INDUSTRIAL. BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ANSWER ANY CONCERNS THAT RESIDENTS MIGHT HAVE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE LOCATED BEHIND US. AND WE DO DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BECOME A PART OF A COMMUNITY, OF AN EXISTING COMMUNITY. AND ANY CONCERNS, ANY QUESTIONS, ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM THE CITY? WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO EXECUTE AS RECOMMENDED, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP AND CAN BE A LONG TERM PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ABEL. WOULD YOU BE AMICABLE TO PLACING RECEIVING HOURS RESTRICTIONS? AND WITHIN THAT YOU SAY 8 TO 330 OR WHATEVER? ABSOLUTELY. MY CONCERN IS IF I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THIS. YEAH. I WOULD NOT WANT 18 WHEELERS BEING ALLOWED TO SHOW UP AT MIDNIGHT. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND YES, WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE WE ALREADY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY DO CURRENTLY. RIGHT NOW WE IT'S WE'RE SAFE BETWEEN 8 A.M. AND 330 BECAUSE THAT'S TYPICALLY WHEN MY DISPATCH TEAM LEAVES. BUT WE WOULD BE HAPPY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PROPOSED TO SAY BETWEEN 8 A.M. A AND MAYBE 5 P..

AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY IT'S IT IS A NICHE AREA THAT YOU HAVE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO INCLUDE INTO THE CITY. THANK YOU. YEAH. HAVING LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT PLACE HAS BEEN INDUSTRIAL ALL ALONG THERE FOR 40 PLUS YEARS. YEAH. THEY KNEW MOVING IN, THEY WERE BACKING UP TO INDUSTRIAL. BUT IF WE CAN MAKE IT AS PLEASANT FOR THEM AS POSSIBLE. ABSOLUTELY. COMMISSIONER. MIRANDA? YES. I GOT A QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION REGARDING YOUR WASTE REMOVAL. SO I KNOW YOU MENTIONED SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING WORK THERE TO KEEP PESTS OUT AND YOU'RE SPRAYING. BUT SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND. SO YOU LIKE YOU LIKE SPRAY, LET'S SAY THE BAGS AND YOU, YOU SEAL THEM IN LIKE CONTAINERS. YES.

AND THEN FROM THERE THEY'RE DISPOSED LIKE, LIKE OUTSIDE LIKE GARBAGE. SO THAT THERE'S THE, WE TYPICALLY HAVE LIKE AN EIGHT YARD OR LARGER GENETIC CONTAINER OUTSIDE, BUT THE CONTAINER ITSELF IS ALSO SEALED. SO WHEN THE, THE ONLY PEOPLE OR THE ONLY COMPANY THAT'S THAT HAS ACCESS TO IT IS THE WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT COMES AND ACTUALLY PICKS UP AND EMPTIES THE CONTAINER. OKAY. AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS ALSO KIND OF CONSIDERING THE CLOSENESS TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL BASED ON LIKE THE FOOD THAT YOU'RE PROCESSING, ANY POTENTIAL FOR ODORS, SMOKE OR ANYTHING? NO, WE'RE NOT COOKING AT ALL. SO WE ARE A ENTIRELY RAW, NOT INTACT MEAT PLANT. SO THAT MEANS WE OPERATE UNDER REALLY, REALLY COLD TEMPERATURES, 50 DEGREES. AND WE ONLY PROCESS RAW MEAT, PACKAGE IT AND WE FREEZE IT RIGHT AWAY. SO EVERYTHING IS ICE COLD IN THERE. THERE'S REALLY NO CHANCE FOR ANY ODORS. WE HAVE SPECIAL FILTERS IN AC SYSTEMS THAT MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT IS REGULATED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FOOD PROCESSING TIME. AND AGAIN, THAT IS ALSO REGULATED BY THE USDA. WELL THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING IMPROVED SOME OF OUR OLDER BUILDINGS IN GARLAND. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. YEAH. QUESTION. I ASKED THE OTHER FOOD PROCESSING. DID YOU DO ANY ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY ON THAT BUILDING? YES, WE YES, YES, WE DID A PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL BEFORE PURCHASING THE BUILDING AND ENSURE THE HEALTH OF OUR SAFETY OF OUR FOOD FOR OUR FOLKS. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU ANSWERED? MOST OF MINE. THANK YOU. SO YOU DID MENTION THIS AS A ONE SHIFT OPERATION. YES. JUST A DAY SHIFT AND NO, NO DAY SHIFT SHIFT. OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF THE SCREENING, JUST WORK WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE IT'S AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE. AND I, FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW A PROVISION THAT THEY ONLY HAVE 32 PARKING SPACES IS ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE IF WE TAKE THE SIX OUT THAT DO NOT MEET OUR CODE, THAT PUTS THEM DOWN TO 32, I THINK.

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THIS IS STRAIGHT INDUSTRIAL. OKAY. YEAH. AND AND SO WE GOT A CONCEPT PLAN AND CONCEPT PLAN WE CAN'T USE TO FOR SUP. THE CONCEPT PLAN IS TIED TO THE SUP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'M TRYING TO KEEP YOU PROTECTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY. SO IF WE COULD WORK ON ON THAT WITH THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THEY CAN PROVIDE A PARKING ANALYSIS AND THEN WE CAN REDUCE THE. YEAH. THAT'S THE MECHANISM WE HAVE DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME KIND OF EXPLANATION THAT'S ACCEPTABLE BY ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY DON'T REALLY NEED THAT MANY PARKING. WE CAN DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY. OKAY, GOOD.

ALRIGHTY. AND YEAH, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR IMPROVING THAT BUILDING AND SITE OUT THERE. AND IF WE COULD GET LANDSCAPING ALONG THE MARS. I THINK IT'S MARS DRIVE THERE OFF TO THE YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. WE GOT SOME MORE. COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING. TO BEGIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH HAS SAID FOR VISITING THAT SITE, IDENTIFYING IT AS A PLACE OF OPPORTUNITY AND REINVESTING IN THAT AREA. IN SUMMATION, I'M PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE TO THE LOCATION OF THE INDUSTRIAL USE AS IT RELATES TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RIGHT BEHIND IT. MY QUESTION IS, YOU'VE GOT THE PARKING, AND I NOTICED IN THE APPLICATION YOU'VE INDICATED THAT YOU ALL WERE CONSIDERING ISLANDS, LANDSCAPING, ISLANDS, WONDERING IF IF WITH STAFF'S CONSENT, OF COURSE, THOSE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING LANDSCAPING ELEMENTS CAN BE PUSHED TOWARDS THE BACK. HOPEFULLY BY BEING THERE, THEY WILL HELP CLEAN OR FILTER THE AIR AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE EFFORTS YOU ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE TO AMELILIORATE ANY CONDITIONS. AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION. WE'RE TOTALLY OPEN TO THAT. I MEAN, THE THE STAFF HAS SO FAR ALSO BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN HELPING US WITH THE SUGGESTIONS THAT THEY MADE, AND WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN EXECUTE THEM AS WELL AS WE CAN, AND MAKING SURE THAT ESPECIALLY TOWARD THE BACK WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LARGE IMPACT WITH OUR PRODUCTION. YEAH. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. I ALSO A QUESTION FOR, FOR, FOR STAFF ON THAT LAST POINT, I HEARD BOTH THAT THIS IS STRAIGHT ZONING AND THAT THIS IS AN SUP. THE REPORT SPECIFICALLY SAYS IT'S AN SUP.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS. WHAT WE MEANT WAS CURRENTLY IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL. THE QUESTION THAT THE CHAIR HAD, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ZONED A P D, BUT IT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL, THE APPLICATION IS IN SUP FOR A FOOD PROCESSING USE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ASKED OR TALKED ABOUT. WE TALKED ABOUT DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS. IF THAT FITS WITHIN YOUR IN YOUR TERRITORY OF IT ABSOLUTELY DOES RECOMMENDATIONS. STAFF WILL BE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT, I BELIEVE. AND SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT SAVING WATER AND MAKING THEM LOOK MORE LIKE THIS DID A LONG TIME AGO. THANK YOU. WE WILL. THANK YOU. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WHO CARES? COME ON DOWN. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. 717 SHORECREST DRIVE RIGHT BEHIND THE FACILITY. AND YOU ANSWER THAT ONE QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A EIGHT HOUR SHIFT. FOR WHAT? IT'S NOT A 24 HOUR DAY WITH TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, ALL NIGHT LONG BECAUSE I'M SERIOUS. I LIVE IN THE NEXT BLOCK OVER. AND RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE AROUND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS UP THE STREET. THERE'S A HOT ROD SHOP FIXING CARS. AND AT 1030, 11:00 THEY START THEM UP. SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE NOISE ALREADY AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID IT WAS THE FIRST JUST ONE SHIFT, RIGHT? I THINK I HEARD YES, YOU MENTIONED IT IN HER PRESENTATION. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CONDITION MAYBE WE'LL THINK OF ADDING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SCHOOL BUSSES GOING THROUGH THERE TOO AS WELL. YOU KNOW, IT'S REAL. IT'S PRETTY BUSY. Y'ALL GUYS KNOW YOU SAID Y'ALL, YOU SOUNDED OPEN TO LIMITING DELIVERIES TO 8 TO 5, 8 TO 5. JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, JUST MORE TRUCKS COMING IN ALL NIGHT. WE REALLY

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YOU YOU DON'T GET AWAY FREE. HERE WE GO. COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS. YEAH. SO I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR. SO IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT OR ADD IN A CONDITION THAT THEY ONLY DO, LIKE TRUCK, TRUCK, LIKE DELIVERIES BETWEEN 8 TO 5, WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. THAT'D BE ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NO PROBLEM. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THE NIGHT TIME. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST REALLY BAD SOMETIMES. IT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD. IT REALLY HAS. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THERE 34 YEARS, SO IT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD THE LAST COUPLE OF WELL, IT'S THE LAST 15 YEARS BEEN NICE UNTIL THE HOT ROD SHOT GOT THERE, YOU KNOW, ON THE CORNER OF WALNUT RIGHT THERE AND THERE, YOU KNOW. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER DEAL. BUT MY MAIN CONCERN WAS JUST THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, DURING THE DAY, WE HAVE SCHOOL BUSSES GOING DOWN THROUGH THERE, YOU KNOW, AND KIDS WALKING ACROSS WALNUT GOING, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS DAIRY THAT WAY TOO, YOU KNOW, SO JUST KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR A LOT OF NOISE AND, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT SMELLING AROUND THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE JUST, I'M REAL AWARE OF THAT. I WAS A INSTRUCTOR. SO I KNOW ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THIS IS REALLY WELL KEPT CLEAN AND NOTHING, YOU KNOW, REAL BAD AND TRAFFIC WISE, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOT, IF YOU SAW THE MAP VERY SMALL, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE PARKING IN THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, ON, ON MARS THERE? WE DON'T NEED THAT, YOU KNOW. SO IS THERE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THESE PEOPLE? THAT'S ANOTHER THING. YOU KNOW, THEY GOT MORE GRASS UP FRONT THAN THEY DO MORE PARKING. IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST SOME OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN THERE. BUT MY MAIN CONCERN WAS THE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, AND AT NIGHT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND, I APPRECIATE IT. OH YES. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. NO YOU'VE GOT ONE MORE IF THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FIRST ONE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND TAKING A PART OF YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE TO MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT. THAT IS A KEY COMPONENT. WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU. ON THAT NOTE, IN THE EVENT THAT YOU DO DISCOVER THAT THERE IS OVERNIGHT USE AT THE PROPERTY AND THOSE TRUCKS ARE IDLING OUT THERE CAUSING A NOISE ISSUE, PLEASE REPORT 311 OR TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SO THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT THE SITUATION. AND THE MORE, MORE OFTEN YOU DO IT, THE MORE CHANCES THEY HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT. WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE BEST CITY STAFF HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AT LEAST THAT'S MY OPINION. AND MY OPINION IS NOT WORTH MUCH. BUT THERE IT IS. SO PLEASE CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY STAFF AND DIRECT US. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME UP WITH ME WITH THIS LETTER. YOU KNOW, AND I DIDN'T I WAS THE LAST ONE TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, REALLY, BECAUSE I WAS OUT MOWING EVERYBODY ELSE'S YARD, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT. AND CAN YOU GO UP THERE AND LISTEN TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON? SO THIS IS MY FIRST TIME JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, SO YES, SIR, WE GOT ENOUGH. YOU KNOW, IT'S INDUSTRIAL IS AN INDUSTRIAL STREET. AND EVERY TIME I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ABOUT THE SMELL, THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T WANT TO BE, LIKE DOWN BY CENTERVILLE, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA, YOU KNOW. SO IT'S GOOD THAT YOU GET CAME DOWN, GOT A BETTER PICTURE BECAUSE YEAH, I DO. I GOT A BETTER GUTTER. GUTTER. YEAH. BETTER UNDERSTANDING THERE STRUCTURED BY THE STATE AS TO HOW WE HAVE TO RIDE THEM AND WHAT'S IN THEM.

AND SO THEY'RE LEGALLY AND THEY USUALLY SCARE PEOPLE TO DEATH. GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. AND IF YOU COULD, SIR. COMMISSIONER, THE SPEAKER CARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE. SO WE HAVE A RECORD OF OF YOU KNOW, JUST NEED SHE HAS A SPEAKER CARD FOR YOU TO FILL OUT. AND COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? I JUST WANTED TO TO DITTO COMMISSIONER JENKINS THANKING HIM FOR COMING DOWN, BECAUSE THE CITIZENS ARE OUR EYES AND EARS. MANY TIMES WHEN PEOPLE DON'T ABIDE BY THE CODES AND BY THE REQUIREMENTS.

AND S WE DO APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS BEING INVOLVED IN. YOU ARE EYES AND EARS, SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER JENKINS, MR. CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN PLACED, SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE BY THE CHAIR AND BY. WELL, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH MADE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I KNOW THERE WERE ADDITIONAL ONES.

WELL, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE THE LANDSCAPING, THE SCREENING WALL TO THEIR

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FIRST COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. OKAY. JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THE. INTO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE. YEAH. I JUST WANT YOU TO ALSO INCLUDE THE SCREENING OF RT USE AS A CONSIDERATION.

THE ROOF MOUNTED EQUIPMENT FOR ROOFTOP UNITS, ROOFTOP UNIT SCREENING. OKAY. SCREEN WALL AND SCREENING. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'VE MADE A LIST OF YOUR REQUIREMENTS. I MISSED THAT ONE. ALRIGHTY. AND LET ME SUMMARIZE THE MOTION. AND THEN COMMISSIONER ABEL, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE SUP FOR A TIME PERIOD OF 15 YEARS WITH THE REQUIREMENTS BY STAFF TO MEET LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, A SCREEN WALL REQUIREMENTS AND ROOFTOP SCREENING AND DELIVERIES BEING FROM 8 TO 5. ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS PLUS THE HOURS OF OPERATION. YEAH, EIGHT TO 8 TO 5 FOR DELIVERIES. YEAH. 8 TO 5 DURING THE WORK WEEK. THAT'S ON SUNDAYS. YEAH.

OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN COMMISSIONER ABEL, I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 8 TO 5, YOU CAN BE WRAPPED UP BY FIVE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID FOUR WAS WHEN YOU CLOSE. OKAY. IF YOU'LL COME DOWN HERE, PLEASE. I'M MY MY CONCERN. OKAY. AND THIS IS JUST MY CONCERN BEING IN LOGISTICS IN THE PAST IS THAT A TRUCK IS LOADING AT 515. CAN WE SAY LOADING STARTED BEFORE FIVE OARE WE IS THAT IS THAT SPLITTING HAIRS. I JUST I DON'T WANT I THINK I'M HOPING THAT WE SEE AN OLIVE BRANCH WITH THE NEIGHBORS, BUT THAT A NEIGHBOR IS NOT GOING TO SEE A TRUCK GETTING LOADED AT 510. AND I MEAN, I THINK HIS MAIN CONCERN WAS SAYING THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO HAVE TRUCK TRAFFIC IN THE NIGHT. AND TO BE FAIR, I MEAN, MOST OF THE PEOPLE WORK UNTIL I'M HEADING HOME, BUT I'M FINE WITH THE 8 TO 5 IF YOU ARE. YEAH. I MEAN, WE 8 TO 5 IS SOMETHING THAT'S DEFINITELY DOABLE FOR US AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, TRUCK LOADING AND PICKUPS GO, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THAT. THERE MAY BE SOME INSTANCES OF OOPS. BUT YEAH, WE SHOULD BE FINE. WE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMPLY. NO OOPS IS AT MIDNIGHT BUT OOPS IS AT FIVE. OH MY GOD. OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO WORK AT MIDNIGHT. OKAY. AND THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE YOU UP HERE. WE CURRENTLY WE HAVE WE HAVE 30 RIGHT NOW IT'S 29, 29. OKAY. SO THAT IS A PARKING ISSUE. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOUR STAFF LEAVES AT A CERTAIN TIME AND THEN THE CLEANING CREW WOULD BE THERE FOR A SPECIFIC TIME. SO THE CLEANING CREW IS ALSO WITHIN OUR STAFF. THEY ACTUALLY WORK ON SITE WITH US BECAUSE THEY MAKE SURE THAT THE DISPOSAL AND WASTE MANAGEMENT GOES GREAT. AND THEN BASICALLY THEY STAY LONGER UNTIL 6 P.M. TO FINISH THE SANITATION AND CLEANING PROCESS. SO ULTIMATELY, THE TIME THAT YOU WOULD STOP RECEIVING DELIVERIES WOULD BE EARLIER ANYWAY. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO TYPICALLY OUR SO USDA WORKS UNDER A REGULATED SHIFT. THAT MEANS FROM USDA SITES, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO OPERATE LONGER THAN 4 P.M. TRUCKS TYPICALLY LEAVE AROUND THAT TIME. AND WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRUCKS LOADING LATER THAN 4 P.M. SO I THINK 5 P.M.

SHOULD BE DOABLE. THAT'S PERFECT. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I HEARD.

GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T CALL YOU BACK UP. YOU'RE WELCOME. MAYBE I'M HERE. ALRIGHTY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR SUP FOR 15 YEAR TIME SPAN, WITH APPROVED LANDSCAPING PER STAFF, WITH A STAINING SCREEN WALL PER STAFF, WITH ROOFTOP SCREENING PER STAFF APPROVAL, AND WITH

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AND THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE. OKAY. YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO REDO THE VOTE EITHER THAT I CAN DO A HAND VOTE EITHER WAY. ARE YOU REDOING IT OR. OKAY, PREPARE TO VOTE AGAIN.

OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. YOU MAY STATE THE MOTION AGAIN. OH. GOT IT. YES. SO YOUR MOTIONS DON'T COUNT UNLESS YOU PUSH A BUTTON.

I GUESS THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND LOOK FORWARD TO IT. ALRIGHTY. LET ME

[d. Z 26-15 Hamza Iftikhar Saleemi (District 6)]

THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1805 RESERVE, SUITE 101. SHERMAN. WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND ONE MORE TIME. IF YOU GUYS GIVE ME A WHILE. I PULLED MY PRESENTATION UP.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION TO ALLOW FOR AN AUTOMOBILE SALES, NEW OR USED USE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED ON 1805 RESERVE STREET, SUITE 101, IS 1.59 ACRES AND IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITHIN DISTRICT SIX. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ALL SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ZONED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. TO THE NORTH IS AN EXISTING LIGHT MANUFACTURING USE TO THE WEST, A LARGE DISTRIBUTION CENTER USE TO THE SOUTH, A CONTRACTOR'S OFFICE AND TO THE EAST A WAREHOUSE OFFICE SHOWROOM. USE THE PROPOSED AUTOMOBILE SALES. NEW OR USED USE IS COMPATIBLE IN INTENSITY RELATIVE TO THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS AND IS NOT EXPECTED TO GENERATE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC, NOISE OR VISUAL IMPACT. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS INDUSTRY CENTER DESIGNATION, WHICH ENVISIONS A CLUSTER OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY USES THAT CUMULATIVELY EMPLOY A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. THE PROPOSED DEALERSHIP CONTRIBUTES TO THIS CLUSTER OF TRADE AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER, SCALE, AND INTENSITY OF ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS ALONG RESERVE STREET. HERE WE GOT SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE TAKING IT TAKEN FROM RESERVE STREET. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONTAINS AN EXISTING MULTI-TENANT BUILDING CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY KAISER FOOD LINE, A FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE USE. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO USE SUITE 101, A 400 SQUARE FOOT SPACE, AS OFFICE AREA FOR THE DEALERSHIP. THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S CONCEPT PLAN. THE PROPOSED PROPOSED DEALERSHIP WILL BE A SMALL SCALE. IT WILL BE SMALL SCALE WITH FIVE PARKING SPACES DESIGNATED FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY AND NO ON SITE MECHANICAL REPAIRS. BODY WORK OR HEAVY AUTOMOTIVE SERVICE WILL BE CONDUCTED ON SITE. THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY PROVIDES 45 TOTAL PARKING SPACES, WHICH SATISFIES THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL TENANTS.

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THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A TIME PERIOD OF EIGHT YEARS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SUP TIME PERIOD. GUIDE STAFF RECOMMENDS AN S P TIME PERIOD OF 5 TO 8 YEARS AS WELL. THE SCP REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR AN AUTOMOBILE SALES, NEW OR USED USE FOR A TIME PERIOD OF 5 TO 8 YEARS WITH THE INSTALLATION OF TWO CANOPY TREES AND 25 SHRUBS WITHIN THE GREEN AREAS OUTLINED ON THE ATTACHED CONCEPT PLAN, AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT. WE SENT OUT A TOTAL OF 42 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND RECEIVED TWO AGAINST WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. THANK YOU. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. LOOP THAT YOU CAN SHOW US. LET ME SEE IF I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE EXACT LETTERS, BUT THE LETTERS WERE MAINLY SPEAKING TO ALREADY EXISTING TRAFFIC, AND THEIR CONCERN WAS THAT THE TRAFFIC WOULD WORSEN WITH THIS USE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A FEW. AS USUAL, IT APPEARS THAT THIS USE IS ALREADY IN PLACE, SO THERE IS NO SPECIFIC USE PROVISION CURRENTLY ISSUED ON THIS SITE.

I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO. THERE'S I SAW THERE WAS LIKE A BANNER THERE FOR WHAT? IT SEEMS LIKE A SIMILAR USE. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE OR I'M NOT AWARE THAT IT IS CURRENTLY OPERATING.

I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE THE APPLICANT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT ON THAT. AND I NOTICED SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES THAT THEY PLAN ON USE TO, TO PROBLEMS WITH THAT. ONES NEXT TO THAT, ONE OF THEM SHOULD BE A HANDICAPPED SPACE BECAUSE OF THE STRIPING. AND SECOND COUPLE OF THEM ARE IN FRONT OF AN OVERHEAD DOOR. THOSE ARE EVEN COUNTED AS PARKING SPACES. AND I WAS WONDERING IF ANY CARS ARE GOING TO BE STORED INSIDE TO, BECAUSE THAT OFFICE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE INSIDE. THERE'S NO ENTRANCE FROM THE OUTSIDE. SO IT LEADS ME TO WONDER IF THERE'S LARGE SPACE IN THERE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO STORE THE CARS, WHICH AND THE PLAN ITSELF REALLY KIND OF INDICATED THE EXTENT OF SUITE 101, BUT DASHED LINE AROUND IT.

OKAY. SEE, IN OUR PACKET THERE WAS A DASHED LINE FURTHER OUT FROM THAT BLUE SPOT. OKAY. IT'S GONE NOW. YEAH. NO, I, I, I THINK I FORGOT TO UPDATE THIS. THE, THE DASHED LINE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY, SO 1805 RESERVE STREET IS WHAT IS BEING SHOWN BY THAT DOTTED LINE. I'LL KIND OF DRAW IT IN HERE FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BUT SO THEY APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO BE OCCUPYING THE THE ENTIRETY OF THE OF 1805. IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S ABOUT AS STRAIGHT AS I DRAW IT TO. GOOD. BUT YEAH, SO THEY'RE THEY'RE REALLY ONLY USING THE OFFICE AREA. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT BLUE SQUARE THAT YOU SEE THERE. AND THEN THEY ARE REQUIRED THREE PARKING SPACES. THAT IS, YOU KNOW, JUST THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. AND THEN THEY ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVING THESE FIVE DISPLAY AREA SPACES FOR THOSE CARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON SALE. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE OVERHEAD DOOR, THAT IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING I FORGOT TO MENTION. SO NOWADAYS, YOU KNOW, FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR PARKING TO BE IN FRONT OF A OVERHEAD DOOR.

HOWEVER, THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE, QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

OBVIOUSLY DESIGN STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED AND BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT AN ISSUE. SO I MEAN THAT PARKING, BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY EXISTING, IT IS CONSIDERED JUST A LEGAL NONCONFORMING. THE PARKING STILL DOES COUNT TOWARDS THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENT. HOWEVER,

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BUT THERE SHOULD BE A CONDITION OF NO REPAIRS ADDED AS A STIPULATION IN THE SUP. AND ALSO A STIPULATIONHAT A MAXIMUM OF FIVE CARS BE INVENTORIED ON THE SITE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. AND IT MIGHT HELP CODE ENFORCEMENT IF THOSE PARKING SPOTS HAD A DISTINCTIVE KIND OF STRIPING. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A GREEN STRIPE, A PINK STRIPING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE HANDICAP, YOU KNOW, CRISS CROSS OR SOMETHING. SO THEY CAN GO OUT THERE AND VISUALLY CHECK IF THERE ARE ANY CARS OUT THERE BEYOND THAT HAVE SALES STICKERS IN THEM. THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR SUP, OTHERWISE THERE'S NO WAY TO CHECK ON IT. YEAH, NO 100%. I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT SUGGESTIONS. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT WAS IT. I'M CERTAIN THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, CAN HELP US WITH A LOT OF THIS STUFF. OH, ONE OTHER THING. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER CAR SALES PLACES WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE AREA? I DID NOT SEE ANY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN COUPLE HUNDRED FEET OF IT. AND I DIDN'T PARTICULARLY RESEARCH IT TOO MUCH, BUT I, I DON'T RECALL ONE. OKAY. SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE A BETTER IDEA ALREADY. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH. YES, SIR. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THE, THE THE WORDING HERE IS. 1805 RESERVE, BUT THE, THE THINGS YOU SHOWED UP THERE WHILE AGO HAD THE ENTIRE COMPLEX ON IT. SO I WANT TO CLARIFY, IT'S JUST THIS LITTLE PORTION HERE THAT YOU DREW THE RED LINE AROUND. THIS IS AN SUP APPLIES TO THAT.

THOSE FIVE PLACES IN THAT OFFICE ONLY. YES, THAT THAT IS CORRECT. THE THE SUP WILL ONLY BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT OFFICE SPACE, WHICH IS A 400FT■S AREA. AND AS WELL AS THE FIVE DESIGNATED DISPLAY AREAS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A PROVISION AS A CHAIRMAN. THE CHAIRMAN SUGGESTED TO STRIPE THEM IN A WAY THAT THEY ARE NOTICEABLY FIND SOME WAY THAT THEY CAN BE CHECKED WITHOUT ASKING, SO TO SPEAK. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. STILL NO SPEAKER CARDS. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? CARE TO COME ON DOWN OR E? OKAY. GO AHEAD. YEAH. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS HAMZA SALAMEH AND MY APPLICATION IS FOR 1805 RESERVE STREET, GARLAND. SO I MOVED FROM JAPAN TO HERE LAST YEAR. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THIS IS GOING TO BE MY FIRST BUSINESS HERE. SO WHAT MY BUSINESS PLAN IS I ALREADY HAVE TWO DEALERSHIPS BACK IN JAPAN. ONE IS IN TOKYO AND ONE IS IN OKINAWA. SO WE'RE EXPANDING HERE IN THE US NOW. SO WHAT MY BUSINESS PLAN IS LIKE, I WON'T BE BUYING CARS LOCALLY. I WON'T BE DOING ANY REPAIRS OR ANYTHING. MY BUSINESS PLAN IS I'LL BE GETTING JDM CARS FROM JAPAN, WHICH JDM CARS ARE 25 YEARS OLD, ANTIQUE CARS FROM JAPAN. SO WHAT I'M PLANNING TO DO, I'LL BE JUST IMPORTING 2 TO 4 CARS EVERY MONTH AND THERE WON'T BE ANY. LIKE, THERE WOULD BARELY BE ANY CUSTOMERS COMING BECAUSE FOR THESE ANTIQUE CARS, THEY LIKE SPECIFIC AUCTIONS, MARKETPLACES WHERE YOU LIST AND YOU SELL THESE CARS. SO WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO, THEY JUST FLY FROM DIFFERENT STATES, GET THE CAR AND THAT'S IT. SO IN THE OFFICE, WE'LL JUST DO ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, ALL THE IMPORT DOCUMENTATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND OUTSIDE, LIKE I WON'T BE PUTTING ANY PRICES ON THE CAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WILL JUST BE FOR STORAGE. SO IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE JDM CARS COMING FROM JAPAN AND I'LL BE SELLING THEM ALL OVER THE US. SO THAT'S MY BUSINESS PLAN.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, THEN COMMISSIONER ABEL. SO JUST A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. SO I GUESS THIS WOULDN'T BE LIKE OUR TYPICAL DEALERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE HERE. LIKE I CAN GO AND I CAN BUY A CAR. THIS SEEMS MORE LIKE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU WOULD PUT IT IN THESE SPECIFIC MARKETPLACES. SOMEBODY SAYS, I WANT TO BUY IT. YEAH. AND THEY MIGHT BE COMING DOWN FROM ANOTHER STATE OR SOMETHING. YEAH. SO IT'S JUST THEY KIND OF JUST COME IN, THEY'RE LIKE, HERE, SIGN THE PAPERWORK. YEAH, THEY JUST DO THE PAPERWORK AND THEN THEY JUST TAKE THE CAR.

OKAY. AND WHAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE DO, THEY JUST LIKE SEND DRIVERS AND THEN THEY DRIVE IT TO OTHER STATES. AND SO LIKE DAY TO DAY USE, LIKE YOU SAID, IT WOULD KIND OF LOOK MORE JUST

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OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I BELIEVE WE HAD A GENTLEMAN OVER HERE BEHIND THE COLUMN. HELLO. HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? HELLO. HOW ARE YOU DOING? I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE FOUR BUILDINGS. OH, OKAY. YEAH, MINE. IT'S ALL OFFICIAL. WHAT CAN I. MY NAME IS GUY CAVAZOS. I HAVE A FOUR PROPERTIES ON ASSET STREET, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE PROPOSED AUTO DEALERSHIP. THERE ARE THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO DO.

AND WE ALREADY HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE, WITH THE AUTOMOBILE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA. THE ONE ON THE CORNER THERE ON RESERVE AND ASSET HAS 60 CARS IN THE PARKING LOT WITH 8000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. AND MOSTLY MOST OF THE TIME THEY HAVE AT LEAST 5 OR 6 OF THEM PARKED OUT IN FRONONT ON THETREET. MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE BLOCKING THE STREET WITH WRECKERS, TRYING TO GET THEIR CARS IN AND OUT. AND THEN IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREET, YOU GOT TO WATCH OUT, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS BACKING CARS IN AND OUT OF THE PLACE.

AND THEN AROUND THE CORNER ON SECURITY, WE HAVE ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE THERE'S ABOUT 80 CARS PARKED AROUND A BUILDING THERE, AND I KNOW THE CODE COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN THERE MANY TIMES, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK. BUT ANYWAY, MY CONCERN ALSO IS YOU ALSO HAVE RIGHT OFF MILLER ROAD THAT THAT ROAD COMING IN THERE WHERE HE WHERE THE PROPOSED AUTO DEALERSHIP IS. THERE'S IT'S ALSO THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THAT AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE CHOKED DOWN REAL EASY WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH OVER PARKING ON THE STREET. SO THAT'S WHY I OPPOSE, YOU KNOW, HAVING ANOTHER AUTO AUTO PLACE IN THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO THESE OTHERS, THEY'RE WITHIN WITHIN A HALF A MILE, YOU WOULD SAY, OR THE OTHER. THE ONE THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS IT'S JUST RIGHT ACROSS FROM THAT ONE. IT'S ON THE CORNER. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT THERE IS NOW. OKAY, THAT AND I DON'T SEE WHY YOU'D WANT TO PARK HIGH IN CARS OUT ON THE STREET THERE OVERNIGHT IN THAT AREA. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. HE GAVE HIS NAME.

HE SAID HE HAD FOUR BUSINESSES ON ACID. YEAH. I HAVE I HAVE FOUR, FOUR BUILDINGS ON AN ASSET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST GIVE US ONE ONE ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 3517 OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BUT ALL OF ALL OF MY. WELL, I USE TWO OF THE BUILDINGS AND I HAVE TENANTS IN THE OTHER ONES. AND THEY WERE THEY'RE ALL COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THE THE CARS AND EVERYTHING ON THE CORNER, BUT I GUESS THEY DIDN'T SEND IN THERE OR OR DIDN'T.

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WELL, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, I THINK HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO SPEAK WITH US TONIGHT. JUST TO CLARIFY, YOUR ISSUES WITH THE DEALERSHIPS IS LARGELY JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE BRINGING IN TOO MANY CARS. IT'S LIKE OVERFLOWING. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL. WELL, I'M SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THERE'S GOING TO BE CARS, MORE CARS PARKED ON THE STREET. OKAY. THEY'RE USING UP LIKE THE STREET. YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS. THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE OTHER TWO AUTOMOBILE PLACES. THE VEHICLES ARE PARKED ON THE STREET. AND, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THOSE, MOST OF THE BUSINESSES THERE ARE SERVICE BUSINESSES. SO PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE SERVICE BUSINESS ARE CONSTANTLY RUNNING BACK AND FORTH TO THEIR BUILDINGS. SO I'M WONDERING IF IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR US TO HAVE A PROVISION TO THIS SUP TO, LET'S SAY, NOT HAVE ANY CARS, ANY OF THEIR STOCK OUTSIDE OF LIKE ON THE STREET OR IF THAT PROVISION IS THERE FOR EXISTING ONES AND IT'S,OU KNOW, THEY'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO PARK IN LEGITIMATE PARKING SPOTS AND THEY PACKED THE LOTS WHERE YOU HAVE TO PACK OUT 20 CARS TO GET TO ONE. YEAH. THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO WITH PART OF THE BDC ANYWAY. SO IT JUST BECOMES A COMPLIANCE ISSUE. WE CAN PUT IT IN THE CONDITIONS, BUT IT HAS THEAME OUTCOME. IT'S A CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE. WELL, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE CODE PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE THE SITUATIONS OVER THERE NOW. AND I JUST WANT TO TRY TO STOP IT FOR IT GOT TO THAT POINT. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S. THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR COMING, COMMISSIONER ABEL. THERE YOU GO. SO I JUST I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM ALL STANDPOINTS. AND I WOULD BE I WOULD BE FRUSTRATED IN YOUR SHOES AS WELL. I AM I'M STILL ON THE FENCE ON THIS ONE. I'M NOT GOING TO LIE. BUT LOOKING AT FROM HIS STANDPOINT, I KNOW HE'S GOING TO BE A LOWER VOLUME. I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP OF THE AREA AND THE OTHER REPAIR PLACES THAT ARE THERE. I KNOW THAT THEY'RE JUST STORING CARS AND PACKING THEM IN EVERYWHERE. YES, YES, THAT'S THE SITUATION. AND UNDERSTAND THIS EVENING THEY WERE DROPPING THEM OFF WITH WRECKERS AND WE COULDN'T GET THROUGH. WE HAD TO GO AROUND. I HAVE CUSTOMERS COMING TO MY BUILDING THAT HAVE TO GO AROUND. AND SO AND IF THERE WAS AN AMBULANCE OR SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO COME THROUGH THERE, IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THERE. SO AND I KNOW THE CODE HAS BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE I SAW HER ONE DAY AND I STOPPED TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON, SHE SAYS. I DON'T KNOW WHY IN THE WORLD THEY GIVE THESE PEOPLE A C. OH, AND SHE'S REAL SWEET. BUT ANYWAY, SHE WAS VERY FRUSTRATED FROM FROM MY STANDPOINT, JUST ASKING YOU A QUESTION. IF THEY WERE TO PUT IN, LET'S SAY, A HEAVIER INDUSTRIAL RETAIL OPERATION, HVAC SUPPLY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. HVAC COMPANY, YEAH.

WHERE THEY WERE PARKING WORK VANS AND THEY WERE DELIVERING ITEMS OUT OF THERE ALL DAY LONG FOR HVAC SUPPLIES, PEOPLE RUNNING AND GOING. I COULD SEE WHERE THIS MIGHT BE A BIG PROBLEM FOR THAT AREA. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SMALL SCALE, NOT MUCH COMING AND GOING, WHICH IS AND I'M, I'M JUST HAVING THAT DISCUSSION. SEE IF IT ENDS UP THAT WAY. I, I WOULD SAY THAT WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, I'M FAIRLY HAPPY TO SAY THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY PUT A SQUASH TO THAT REAL QUICK. WE, WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AS A CITY, AND WE ARE GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION TO HELP GROW AND FURTHER THE BETTERMENT OF OUR LAND USE. SO I, I HAVE FULL FAITH THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I MAY BE NAIVE, BUT. WELL, IF THEY ABIDE BY THE RULES, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ALL GOOD. BUT THE AUTOMOBILE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST HAVE NEVER ABIDED BY THE RULES. AND THE GUY THAT'S ON THE END RIGHT THERE AT ASSET AND RESERVE RIGHT NOW HAS 62 CARS IN THE FRONT AROUND HIS BUILDING AND ABOUT SIX OF THEM ON THE STREET THIS AFTERNOON. I, I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND I WOULD BE JUST AS FRUSTRATED. ANYWAY, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE YOU CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT BACK UP IF YOU CARE TO ADDRESS ANYTHING

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LIKE IF SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT JDM LIKE, IT'S A NICHE MARKET. THERE'S NOT SO MANY CUSTOMERS HERE. AND IT WOULD BE A SMALL BUSINESS. AND I, I MAKE, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT LIKE, I ONLY HAVE LESS THAN FIVE CARS AT ONE TIME. SO YEAH, SO I GUARANTEE HIM THAT LIKE, I WON'T BE OVERFLOWING LIKE STREETS OR ANYTHING WITH THESE HIGH END CARS. LIKE I WON'T EVEN EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, LIKE PARKING THESE KIND OF CARS ON THE STREET. AND I MAKE, I'LL MAKE SURE LIKE NOTHING BAD HAPPENS THERE. AND THEN LIKE, LIKE I WAS, I WAS RAISED IN JAPAN ALL MY LIFE. AND THEN WHAT JAPANESE PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US, LIKE WE KEEP OUR WORD. SO I GIVE HIM MY WORD, LIKE NOTHING BAD WOULD HAPPEN THERE. THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONER MIRANDA? NO QUESTION. THAT JUST CAME UP. JUST SO I UNDERSTAND. I GUESS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY SOMEONE LET'S SAY I'M INTERESTED IN ONE OF THESE CARS. I'M LOOKING AT THIS MARKET. I'M LIKE, OH, WELL, I GUESS HOW DOES IT START? DO YOU PURCHASE THE VEHICLE AND THEN YOU POST IT? OR IS IT MORE LIKE SOMEBODY REQUESTS? SO LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE, LIKE I HAVE A COMPANY BACK IN JAPAN, I'VE GOT MY OWN CAR DEALERSHIP. SO WE BUY CARS FROM THE AUCTIONS THERE AND WE'LL BE BUYING CARS FROM THE AUCTIONS THERE AND SHIPPING IT HERE. SO LIKE A LOT OF THE BUSINESS, PROBABLY TAKING CARE, LIKE IN JAPAN. IN JAPAN. YEAH. AND THEN YEAH, SO EVERYTHING WOULD BE LIKE AUCTION AND EVERYTHING WOULD BE DONE IN JAPAN IN THE OFFICE. LIKE IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE IMPORT, LIKE GETTING THE IMPORT PAPERS READY AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THEN LIKE POSTING CARS. THAT'S IT. OKAY. AND THERE WOULD BE NO LIKE PRICE TAGS OR ANYTHING ON THE CARS AS WELL. BECAUSE LIKE REGULAR PEOPLE, LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE, PEOPLE HERE, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THESE JDM CARS. SO THERE IS A SPECIFIC MARKET AND PEOPLE WHO ARE INTO JDM CARS ONLY, THEY WOULD COME ALL OVER THE US TO BUY THESE CARS, AND THERE WON'T BE ANY BIG TRUCKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT COMING. YEAH, DURING THE DAY OR EVEN AT NIGHT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS LIKE WHO ARE DOING IT LIKE I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO IS DOING IT HERE IN TEXAS, BUT I HAVE FRIENDS DOING IN LIKE HAWAII AND PLACES LIKE THIS. SO WHAT, LIKE CUSTOMERS JUST FLY, LIKE YOU GIVE THEM THE PAPERWORK WITH THE CAR AND EVERYTHING AND THEY JUST GO, THAT'S IT. SO IT WON'T BE A TYPICAL DEALERSHIP. IT WOULD BE LIKE EVERYTHING WOULD MOSTLY BE DONE IN THE OFFICES. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, I SEE NO OTHER INPUT FROM THE AUDIENCE OR ANYTHING. MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AS HAPPENS MANY TIMES IN THE COURSE OF OF MICROPHONE, A LITTLE CLOSER. AS HAPPENS MANY TIMES IN THE COURSE OF THIS EFFORT, I CAME IN THIS EVENING THINKING THAT I KNEW WHAT I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND. AND NOW I'M LIKE COMMISSIONER ABLE. I'M REALLY ON THE FENCE WITH THIS ONE, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO ANY DISCUSSION. BUT I AM CURRENTLY OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ABEL. I AGAIN, I I'M I AM REALLY ON THE FENCE. I CAN GO EITHER WAY ON THIS ONE, BUT KNOWING THE MARKET AND WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO, THERE IS A DEMAND. AND I DO THINK THAT KNOWING THIS SPECIFIC MARKET, IT IS VERY SMALL. THERE IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUY 20 $100,000 CARS AND PUT THEM ON THE STREET IN THIS AREA. THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, I, I AGAIN, I CAME INTO THIS AGAIN, LOOKING AT IT GOING, I'M, I'M LEANING ONE WAY, BUT I REALLY DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT WITH THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS AND EVERYTHING, IT'S GOING TO ADD A LOT OF VOLUME TO THE AREA. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THEN COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, THEN COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. YEP. YEAH. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD A SECOND. LIKE WHAT COMMISSION ABEL SAID WHEN I WHEN I'M FIRST WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT, OH, NO, WE HAVE TOO MANY DEALERSHIPS ANYWAYS. AND I SEE THE PROBLEMS THAT HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THESE SMALLER DEALERSHIPS. BUT

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BECAUSE WHERE MY MIND IS. ALTHOUGH IT'S A NICHE MARKET. BUT IF GROWTH HAPPENS. SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING, RIGHT? BUT IF GROWTH HAPPENS, HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THAT RESTRICTION OF THE FIVE SO THAT IT DOESN'T GO. SO THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION WAS. BUT IF IT'S IF THE MOTION THAT IS ABOUT TO COME FORTH HAS THAT LESS THAN FIVE VEHICLES, THEN THAT WILL HELP ME FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH CONTAINING THE SPACE. BUT GROWTH CAN HAPPEN, RIGHT? EVEN IF IT'S NICHE. AND SO I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU RESTRICT IT TO BE SURE THAT IT MAINTAINS IT? EVEN THOUGH IT GROWS, IT STILL HAS TO STAY WITHIN THAT FIVE. THAT IS POSSIBLE TO RESTRICT IT WITH SUPS, WE CAN'T DEVIATE. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESTRICTING SOME MORE. SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN ISSUE. I THINK WE CAN CAP IT AT FIVE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S PROBABLY AGAIN WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE, THE EYES AND EARS. IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE THEY REPORT IT TO STAFF AND TAKE IT FROM THERE. YEAH. I WAS KIND OF THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE. AND THIS IS WHAT I CALL A BOUTIQUE AUTO BUSINESS. AND OUR CODES DO NOT ADDRESS THAT AT ALL. WE'VE HAD 2 OR 3 COME THROUGH IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS OR SO, INCLUDING A TESLA DEALERSHIP, I THINK WANTED TO WORK OUT OF THE MALL AND HAVE A FEW CARS THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GOING, OH, TESLA, WE CAN DO THAT. BUT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE CARS. BUT I WOULD NOT GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF EIGHT YEARS PERSONALLY. I WOULD DROPOP IT TO 2 OR 3 YEARS. LET IT BE PROVEN AND COME BACK. AND AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, NO SERVICING OR REPAIRS NEEDS TO BE IN THERE. THE LANDSCAPING PROVISIONS THE CITY WANTS NEEDS TO BE IN THERE AND FIVE CARS AND POSSIBLY A STRIPING TO IDENTIFY THOSE FIVE CARS. BUT YEAH, IT STILL GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN. ANYTHING AUTOMOTIVE IN IN OUR CITY. SO ANYBODY CARE TO MAKE A MOTION. PRESS THE MAGIC BUTTON. I'LL TRY IT. WE'RE DONE WITH INPUT FOR RIGHT NOW. SORRY. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS. SUP FOR FIVE YEARS. WITH THE CONDITION FOR THE LANDSCAPING

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OKAY. YES. DID THE MAKER OF THE MOTION AND THE SECOND ONE INCLUDE THAT? YES. OKAY. NO STORAGE WITHIN THE BUILDING. AND COMMISSIONER BILL. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NO REPAIRS WAS IN THERE AS WELL. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SUMMARIZE IN THOSE SERVICING SLASH REPAIRS. OKAY. ANY OTHER INPUT? THE WAY I HAVE IT NOW, I HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUP FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS WITH A MAXIMUM OF FIVE CARS DESIGNATED ON THE SITE. NO STORAGE WITHIN THE BUILDING, NO SERVICING OR REPAIRS OF ANY VEHICLES AND LANDSCAPING PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WE HAVE MOTION.

AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE.

TO GET THE JEOPARDY THEME. DO WE NEED TO DO A REDO? SO COMMISSIONERS CORNELIUS, DO DO THE FIRST AND AND COMMISSIONER PARIS DO YOUR SECOND. AND THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE. LET'S DO IT AGAIN. GOTTA LOVE TECHNOLOGY. ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES 5 TO 2 WITH COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND COMMISSIONER ROBERTS IN OPPOSITION. AND SINCE WE NEED TO OVER HALF OF THE FIVE DOES DO IT. SO THAT IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. NEXT ITEM

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REGARDING MATERIALS, THE GDC ALLOWS ONLY MASONRY, PYLON OR MONUMENT STYLE SIGNS, AND THE

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AND SO I WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT. I NOTICED AND THIS GOES INTO LEGALITY. THE REQUEST IS FOR THE ONE PD, BUT THIS ALSO INCLUDES PD 71-119. BECAUSE ONE OF THE SIGNS BEING TAKEN DOWN IS FROM THERE. SOME OF THE SIGNAGE ON A NEW PYLON SIGN INVOLVES ANOTHER PD, AND THERE MAY BE PROVISIONS IN THAT PD THAT INTERFERE OR NEED TO BE MODIFIED. AND I THINK BEFORE THIS GETS TO COUNCIL, ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT INTO ONE PACKAGE. WE USED TO DO SOMETHING CALLED A SIGN PACKAGE FOR MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS, WHERE WE'D LAY OUT ALL THE SIGNS, INCLUDING THE WALL SIGNS, WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE AND EVERYTHING, BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE PANEL SIGNS INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED HERE. SO TO AVOID ANY PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE AT, OTHER PD WANTS TO PUT UP ANOTHER PYLON SIGN AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO IT, THAT WE DON'T GET INTO THAT KIND OF SITUATION OR, OR SOMETHING ELSE. AND I BELIEVE. YEAH. I DID SEND YOU A RESPONSE ON THAT, BUT I'LL LET STUART IT WAS PRETTY. NO, NO, NO, I KNOW IT WAS PRETTY LATE, BUT I'LL LET. STUART HAD A RESPONSE ALREADY. SO I'LL LET YOU TALK ABOUT IT. AND THEN IF NEEDED I CAN JUMP IN. YEAH. SO YEAH, CURRENTLY THERE'S TWO PYLON SIGNS RIGHT. ONE WHERE THE JOVIS IS IS BEING PROPOSED AND ONE WHERE THE EXISTING ROSS IS. AND SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO DO, RIGHT, IS, IS REMOVE THE TWO EXISTING ONES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT DEPLETED, REPLACE IT WITH A SINGLE ONE THAT WILL ENCOMPASS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF ALL OF THE EXISTING TENANTS. AND NOW THE IT IS, AS YOU WERE MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, TWO, THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES. THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN PD.

YEAH. AND SO THE, THE ONE WITH THE ROSS ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC SIGN STANDARDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT I GUESS AT THE END OF THE DAY, SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ONE, IT ALSO JUST REFERENCES THE GDC, BUT THE ACTUAL PYLON SIGNS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE, YOU KNOW,

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I KNOW THEY'LL DO IT, BUT IT'S A LITTLE AND I JUST WANT IT LOOKED AT BEFORE IT GETS TO COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL GOOD AND CLEAR. AND I MEAN, IF WE IF YOU GUYS BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT WOULD BE TO DO ONE ZONING FOR THE TWO PROPERTIES. I MEAN, OF COURSE, IT'S KIND OF ABOVE MY PAY GRADE, HOW IT WORKS OUT LEGALLY. SO WE'RE NOT ADDING A CONDITION THAT THEY REMOVED THE SIGN. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT OUR CONDITION. THAT'S IT. IS IT A RECOMMENDED CONDITION ON THEIR PLAN. SO THEY'RE STUCK WITH WHAT'S ON THE THEY WERE PROPOSING IT AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT INCLUDING IT THERE JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT IN THE BEST CONDITION. SO WE DO WANT TO I KNOW IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAN FOR EVERYBODY THROUGHOUT. AND IT WILL BE.

YEAH. AND YOU'RE ALL OKAY WITH THE TEN FOOT SIGN ALONG BROAD MORE. IT'S A LOW TRAFFIC ROAD COMPARED TO CENTERVILLE. AND I WOULD THINK THE SEVEN FOOT MONUMENT SIGN WOULD WOULD BE FINE THERE. AND I, I LOOKED ON THE BACK SIGNAGE. I'VE LOOKED FRFROM THE ACCESS ROAD AND FROM THE HIGHWAY, AND YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE THE BACK OF THAT BUILDING. SO 400FT■S OF SIGNAGE IS GOING TO KIND OF GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. AND I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT IN THE LANDSCAPING. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT 30FT ALL THE WAY ACROSS INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM THE OPTION. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT, OH, ON THE PYLONS. MAYBE JUST BRICK UP PART OF THE WAY AND MAKE IT AN ARCHITECTURAL SOMEHOW, BECAUSE YOU'LL GET MORE OF THE IMPACT AT GROUND LEVEL IF IT'S UP TO ABOUT WHERE MAYBE THE FIRST STEEL STARTS TO TAPER IN, AND THEN MAYBE DO SOME CROSS MEMBERS OR SOMETHING, BUT MAKE IT NICE AND ARCHITECTURAL STATEMENT AND LET THEM BRING SOMETHING FORWARD ON THAT. DEFINITELY. BUT YEAH, HEY, I'M EXCITED FOR IT TO GO. AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT, PUT, PUT A DAMPER ON IT, BUT I THINK IT CAN BE IMPROVED SOME AND, AND MADE CLEARER FOR EVERYBODY. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M ASSUMING THE APPLICANT IS HERE. COME ON DOWN. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL. MY NAME IS JOHN ROSE. I'M 4135 CALCULUS DRIVE. I WORK FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE REDEVELOPING EVERYTHING. IF I HAD IT, YOU'LL SEE AN HEB BADGE, WHICH UP HERE, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT ON TODAY. SO MY APOLOGIES. AND I DON'T WANT TO BREAK YOUR DESK HERE.

WE DON'T NEED BADGES. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO REVITALIZE A VERY TIRED BUILDING. AND WE'RE GOING TO I'M HOPING SOME OF YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE BUILDING WE DID AT SAMUEL AND BUCKNER. IT'S IT'S ONE OF OUR PRODUCTS. IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF, OF, OF STORE.

IT'S CALLED JOVI'S SMART SHOP. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US THAT AND REGULAR HEB IS NOT THE PRODUCE BECAUSE IT'S THE EXACT SAME PRODUCE. IT'S NOT THE MEAT, IT'S THE EXACT SAME MEAT. IT'S YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE AS BIG A SELECTION. SO WHEN YOU WOULD WALK INTO AN HEB, THERE MIGHT BE 12 DIFFERENT TYPES OF KETCHUP. YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THREE HERE. AND IT'S MEANT TO SERVE THE EVERYDAY IMMEDIATE NEEDS OF PEOPLE. AND WE CAN DO THINGS A LITTLE MORE ECONOMICALLY THERE BY DOING THAT. AND SO IT IT FILLS A NEED FROM THAT STANDPOINT. SO IN ORDER TO TO DO THAT, WE WANT TO PULL PEOPLE. THE REACH OF THIS STORE IS MUCH GREATER. WE BRING PEOPLE FROM FURTHER AWAY. SO WE DO WHAT'S CALLED FLAGGING SIGN FLAGGING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT SIGN FLAGGING IS, BUT WE GET A TRUCK FROM THE SIGN COMPANY AND THEY PUT A BASICALLY BED SHEET ON A FRAME AND THEY HAUL IT UP AND WE DRIVE AND WE SEE WHAT CAN YOU SEE. AND AFTER WE DRIVE IT, WE SIT THERE AND SAY, OKAY, RAISE IT UP FIVE FEET. AND WE

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IT'S JUST WHERE WE CAN PUT THEM IS VERY, VERY LIMITED. AND THEN THE GOOD NEWS FOR US AND GOOD NEWS FOR Y'ALL IS WE'RE POPULAR. AND SO WE DON'T LIKE TO GIVE UP PARKING SPACES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU'VE BEEN, I THINK ONE OF YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN TO OUR STORE AT. YOU PROBABLY ARE MAD AT ME BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE. YOU HAD A HARD TIME FINDING A PARKING SPACE, DIDN'T YOU? YEAH. OKAY. IT'S A POPULAR STORE. IT'S A POPULAR CONCEPT. AND SO WE HAVE, WE WE DO CHALLENGE OUR CHALLENGE FROM THAT STANDPOINT. I HAVE AN ELEVATION OF WHAT WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T HAVE IT, IF THAT PARTICULAR ITEM WORKS, DOES THAT WORK? YOU GOT ME THE OVERHEAD. YEAH. I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING IT UP NOW.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF GLARE THERE. THERE WE GO. OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIM THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT. THAT. THERE WE GO. I.

OH YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S OH SORRY. NOT SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THE STORE WILL LOOK LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY. SO IT'S PRETTY PROTOTYPICAL FOR US. AND IF YOU GET A CHANCE WE THIS IS OUR THIRD THIS WILL BE OUR FOURTH STORE. WE OPEN ONE AT.

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SO THOSE WOULD THOSE WOULD BE THE TENANT PANELS THAT WOULD BE REPLACED. SHOULD ANYBODY GO INTO THOSE TENANT SPOTS. THOSE WOULD BE THEIR OPTIONS. AND THEY'LL HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR ON THEIR SPACE ITSELF, ON THEIR SPACE ITSELF IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN STORE. YES. GENERALLY, ANYTHING DONE BY H-E-B HAS A LIMIT THAT STICKS WITH THE STANDARDS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR USUALLY THE COMMUNITY SAYS LIKE 1,020%. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOURS IS HERE FOR THE FRONTAGE, BUT IT WOULD STICK BY THAT. YEAH. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. OH YEAH. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. OH. I'M SORRY. ADDRESS. WE HAVE A NAME. YEAH. MY ADDRESS IS 10569 PINELAND DRIVE, WILLIS, TEXAS.

WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION TO COMMISSIONER? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.

OH. YEAH, AND I, I FORGOT TO ASK THE COMMISSION IF THEY WANTED TO BREAK BEFORE THIS ONE.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. ANYBODY? YEAH. WELL, OKAY. JUST GIVE YOU A WARNING. WE'RE COMING BACK BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON A ON AN HEB OVER AT THE. I'M SORRY SIR, I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT. YES. WE ARE WORKING ON AN HEB AT FIREWHEEL. WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS WE'RE GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP ON, BUT THERE ARE SOME SITE EASEMENTS. YOU TALK ABOUT RESTRICTIONS. THERE ARE SOME SITE EASEMENTS OR THAT FIREWHEEL HAS FOR THE DEPARTMENT STORE. SO BE AWARE OF THOSE. THEY'RE. OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR WITH FIREWHEEL HAS BEEN. THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT ARE PRETTY BIG ISSUES FOR US, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MELVIN SIMON ON THOSE ISSUES, BUT THAT'S A THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT. SO WE'RE HERE THIS ONE, BY THE WAY, YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT PLANNING DIRECTOR. I GOT A CHANCE TO TALK TO HER, WORK WITH HER AT ANOTHER CITY, AND SHE'S A GREAT PLANNING DIRECTOR. YOU'VE YOU'VE, YOU'VE MANAGED TO STEAL HER AWAY FROM. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. WE THINK HIGHLY OF HER TOO. COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. I'M VERY HAPPY THAT Y'ALL ARE COMING TO GARLAND. I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, STAND

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WELL, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT, BUT I JUST CAN'T DO IT. I. BECAUSE I'M RESTRICTED BY AGREEMENTS THAT JUST LIKE I'M RESTRICTED BY PD, I'M ALSO RESTRICTED BY THOSE AGREEMENTS.

OKAY, SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT AT THIS POINT, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO PITCH IN BECAUSE WELL, I, I WASN'T AWARE OF THE REA, BUT I DON'T AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FEASIBLE OR NOT, BUT IF YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN'T DO A LANDSCAPE BUFFER, MAYBE THEY CAN DO LIKE SOME LANDSCAPE ISLANDS OR SOMETHING IN THE PARKING JUST, JUST LIKE AN IDEA. LET ME GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA.

THERE'S CURRENTLY A, A BUFFER, A PARKWAY OUT THERE THAT IS JUST GRASS. WE CAN ADD SOME SOME LANDSCAPING TO THAT PARKWAY. I CAN'T PUT TREES IN IT BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY UTILITIES THERE, BUT I CAN, I CAN PUT SOME ZEROSCAPE OR WHAT. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DROUGHT RESISTANT SHRUBS OUT THERE THAT CAN KIND OF DRESS IT UP A LITTLE BIT. OKAY, COMMISSIONER, I WAS A COMMISSIONER, MIRANDA. GO AHEAD. DID YOU KNOW? I THINK WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF IT'S NOT TREES, WE CAN SPECIFY SHRUBS AND OTHER TYPE OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN VIOLATION WITH THE UTILITIES. SO STAFF CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. I WOULD SAY MAYBE PLAN COMMISSION CAN PUT THAT IN THE CONDITION, BUT ADD SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR STAFF, LIKE SOME TEST CASES SO THAT WE IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ADD A COUPLE OF TREES, I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER ON BROADMOOR AND ADD A COUPLE MORE TREES, IF THAT WILL.

WE? YOU KNOW, PLEASE DON'T MISUNDERSTAND. I IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T THAT I HATE TREES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I JUST THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS I'M, I HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ONE OF THE BIG ONES RIGHT NOW. AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU. I MEAN, THAT'S IF IF THAT QUESTION, IF STAFF WANTS A COUPLE ADDITIONAL TREES, WE'RE ABLE TO GO OVER TO BROADMOOR AND ADD A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL TREES AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. OKAY. I THINK ON BROADMOOR, WE'RE ALREADY GETTING A PRETTY GOOD LANDSCAPE BUFFER THROUGH THE SITE PERMIT. WE HAVE SEEN THAT, SO WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT. ON CENTERVILLE, I ASKED THAT PLAN COMMISSION ADD SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO PUT SOME GREENS ON THE PARKWAY, AND THAT DOES NOT RESTRICT ANYTHING. UTILITIES.

SURE. AND WE'LL DO THAT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL CAN DO THAT, SINCE WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. YEAH, GOOD. COMMISSIONER MIRANDA TRYING TO SIT DOWN. SORRY. REAL QUICK FOR THE LANDSCAPE THOUGH.

I BELIEVE WE IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IT WAS A COUPLE OPTIONS, RIGHT? ALREADY. IT WASN'T JUST LIMITED TO JUST IT WAS 30 OR 16FT, BUT THE 16 WOULD EVEN BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE I DROVE OUT THERE JUST BEFORE COMING OVER HERE, AND I'M JUST WATCHING THE MCDONALD'S TRAFFIC USE THAT TO GET ACCESS. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEMS PROBLEM IS, THEY'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST IT. THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER. THEY'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST IT. AND THAT'S WHERE I'VE GOT A PROBLEM. I THINK STAFF IS ASKING FOR FLEXIBILITY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. AND THEN AND THEN SOME OTHER LITTLE THINGS. SO I HEARD YOU SAY, IF WE REQUEST LIKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THE 60FT, SOUNDS LIKE YOU WOULD BE STILL OKAY. IT'S I'D PREFER TO BE 65 JUST BECAUSE OF THE VISUAL. IF YOU TELL ME THAT 60 IS THE BEST I CAN GET, I'LL, I'LL LIVE WITH 60. OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW FOR THE MATERIAL, IS IT A DEAL BREAKER? IF IT'S NOT STEEL, IT'S A THE, THE THING THAT MAKES THIS, THIS PRODUCT WORK IS WE ARE VERY, VERY COST CONSCIOUS, OBVIOUSLY GOING IN AND REUSING A BUILDING.

SO WHEN WE GO IN AND PUT MASONRY ON, ON THAT, WE ARE HURTING OURSELVES IN TERMS OF OTHER AREAS. AND SO THAT IF YOU TELL ME I HAVE TO DO THAT, I'LL FIND A WAY TO DO IT. BUT I REALLY PREFER NOT TO. BUT BUT IF YOU TELL ME THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DO, I WILL GET IT DONE.

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I'M WILLING TO GO WITH THE TEN FEET ON BROADMOOR, LOOKING AT THEIR SIGN PACKAGES THROUGHOUT AND ACROSS THEIR COMPANY. I'M A BIG UNIFORMITY PERSON. I, I DON'T MIND THE 65 FOOT SIGN. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AT 60 JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE COMING DOWN THE OTHER SIDE OF 635 TO COME AT US WITH IT, BUT I WON'T FIGHT THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE GREENERY THERE, AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH THAT. SO I I'M AS LONG AS THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO A GREAT THING TO THAT SPOT. SO THANK YOU. YEAH, YOU ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS AND, AND MY, MY FEARS TOO. I WAS HOPING THERE WASN'T DIVIDED OWNERSHIP, WHICH COULD CAUSE PROBLEMS. SO THAT'S ALL GOOD.

AND YOU EXPLAINED REASONS FOR EVERYTHING AND I'M GOOD TO GO. ALL RIGHTY O. COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I'M SCARED BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH IN HERE THAT WE HAVE TO GET COVERED. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, AS WELL AS FLEXIBILITY TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, I MEAN, ON CENTERVILLE LANDSCAPING, YES. THE OTHER THINGS I JUST I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH THE 60FT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. IF AND THE OTHER AREAS, I MEAN, IT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THOSE CONDITIONS. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ALSO INCLUDED A FULL MASONRY ON THE PYLON SIGN VERSUS STEEL. WELL STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WELL, FIRST YOU WANT TO APPROVE THE PD AMENDMENT. AND WITH THE SIGN STANDARDS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 60 FOOT PYLON SIGN 655FT■S PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. MASONRY NOT STEEL LANDSCAPE TO BE WORKED OUT WITH STAFF MOVING THE EXISTING PYLON SIGNS. TEN FOOT MONUMENT SIGN THE 200 AND I BELIEVE IT'S 220 REAR REAR SIGN 460. I'M SORRY, FRONT 715FT■S. AND I BELIEVE THAT. I BELIEVE I GOT EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT'S THOSE EIGHT AND THEN THE THREE. YES. YEAH. AND IF THE APPLICANT IS OKAY WITH THE MASONRY I THINK WE INCLUDE THAT. OKAY. WE'VE GOT A PROPOSED SECOND AND YEAH, YEAH. WELL I'VE GOT A FEW SPEAKERS. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE SECOND ON THAT. AND THEN COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, THEN COMMISSIONER ABEL, THEN COMMISSIONER PEREZ. OKAY. YOU CAN HAVE THE LAST SAY. OH YEAH, I, I, I WAS JUST I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION, I'M JUST GONNA ASK TO REITERATE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. I'M CLEAR ON THOSE. I'M GOOD ON THOSE. OKAY. YEAH. AND KIND OF, YEAH, GO FOR IT, PLEASE. ALL.

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THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN DO. BUT THAT SAID, YOUR GUYS'S DISCRETION THEN LET ME FLIP BACK HERE. SO THESE ARE ALL THE ONES THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING. IS THAT WHAT YOU GUYS WANT ME TO GO OVER OR IS IT THE ONES THAT'S. YEAH. WHY DON'T YOU GO THROUGH THOSE AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THEREUPON? OKAY. OKAY. SO THE REQUEST REQUESTS ARE THE FOLLOWING.

MULTI-TENANT COMPLEX SIGNS SHALL HAVE A MAXIMUM SURFACE AREA OF 650FT■S. SO IT'S AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM SURFACE AREA. THEN MULTI-TENANT COMPLEX SIGN SHALL HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 65FT. AND THEN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO REDUCE THAT TO 60FT. THEN A MULTI-TENANT COMPLEX SIGN SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED OF STEEL ONLY IS THE REQUEST, AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND TO KEEP IT AS IT CURRENTLY IS IN THE GDC, WHICH WOULD BE FULLY MASONRY. THEN THE REQUEST FOR INCREASING THE MAXIMUM SURFACE AREA OF THE FRONT ATTACHED TO WALL SIGN TO 715. THE SAME REQUEST FOR THE REAR WALL ATTACHED SIGN, BUT TO INCREASE IT TO 460FT■S. AND THEN THE MONUMENT SIGN SHALL HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF TEN FEET, AS OPPOSED TO THE SEVEN FEET THAT IS TYPICALLY PERMITTED AND ALLOWING INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED BOX TYPE SIGNS TO BE PERMITTED, TYPICALLY PROHIBITED BY THE GDC. AND THEN WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO NO LONGER INCLUDE THE PROVISION TO REMOVE THE EXISTING PYLON SIGNS, AND THE OTHER STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS THE INCLUSION OF A LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG CENTERVILLE, WHETHER THAT WAS 30FT OR 16FT. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS IT WITH THE APPLICANT, SEE WHAT'S FEASIBLE, AND GO, DID YOU JUST SAY YOU'RE YOU WANTED TO REMOVE THE CONDITION OF REMOVING HIGH PYLON SIGNS OR TECHNICALLY, BECAUSE IF IT'S ON ANOTHER PD, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE CAN'T IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS ON ANOTHER PD. WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S UNDER SINGLE OWNERSHIP. OKAY. I JUST DON'T SEE A NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE COMPLICATED BY THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT. YEAH. GOT IT. YEAH WE ARE. GOT IT.

PART OF YOUR YEAH YEAH. COMMISSIONER ABEL, ONE THING I WILL ADD ON THE MASONRY ON THE PYLON SIGN. I'M A LITTLE LEERY OF PUTTING BRICK 60FT IN THE AIR ON A SIGN THAT MOVES. YOU CAN'T. WINDOWS THAT THAT CANNOT. DISCRIMINATE HERE. YEAH. AND THE WIND LOAD CAN'T HANDLE THAT ANY OTHER WAY. SO YEAH, IT'LL BE STEEL AND MASONRY. YEAH. SO THAT WAS YOUR COMMENT. WELL I, I WANTED TO COMMENT THAT YEAH, I WOULD BE FINE WITH, YOU KNOW, A 10 OR 15 FOOT STEEL MASONRY STRUCTURE AND THE REST STEEL GOING UP. I DON'T THINK IMPOSING A 65 FOOT BRICK SIGN WOULD BE GOOD ON ANYBODY HERE IF. I'M. THAT COULD WORK. AND IF COMMISSION WANTS FOR US TO IRON OUT THOSE DETAILS, Y'ALL CAN RECOMMEND A PERCENTAGE AND WE CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO SEE WHERE THAT FITS THE BEST ON THE SIGN. I UNDERSTAND THE ENGINEERING AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT I ALSO KNOW TEXAS WINDSTORMS, FLYING TREES AND WHATEVER ELSE I, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. BUT I JUST, I, I WANTED THAT TO BE THOUGHT OF WITH THE MAKER OF THE MOTIONS APPROVAL. SHALL I GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AND SEE IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE INTENDING. YEAH, I DO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL OKAY. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO.

OKAY. SO SO AS FAR, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE PD AMENDMENT WITH THE FOLLOWING STANDARDS. ONE MULTI TENANT COMPLEX SIGNS CAN BE 655FT■S. THE MULTI TENANT

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FRONT SIGN WALL SHALL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 715FT■S. REAR SIGN WALL 460FT■S. MONUMENT SIGN, TEN FOOT HIGH WALL SIGNS AND TERMINALLY ILLUMINATED BOX TYPE SIGNS. WE IGNORE THE OTHER ONE.

LANDSCAPING ALONG CENTERVILLE TO BE WORKED OUT WITH STAFF. CORRECT. AND THAT THAT'S YOUR MOTION. AND I SEE I SEE THE SECOND, CONCURS COMMISSIONER PARIS. I COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER JENKINS WAS THE SECOND COMMISSIONER. PARIS WANTS TO CHIME IN. MINE WAS A CLARIFICATION A FEW SEVERAL MINUTES AGO. I THINK I HAVE THE CLARIFICATION. I JUST WANT TO BE JUST DOUBLE CHECK. YEAH. THE FLEXIBILITY TO WORK WITH STAFF IS ONLY ON A CENTERVILLE WITH THE 60 FOOT. AND THEN THE SIGN. IN TERMS OF THE MASONRY AND STEEL COMBINATION, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. ALRIGHTY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, LET ME GET THE LANDSCAPING AS WELL THEN. YES. THAT THERE TO WORK WITH STAFF ON LANDSCAPING ALONG CENTERVILLE ROAD RATHER THAN. DON'T ASK ME TO REPEAT THE MOTION, BUT THE MOTION IS BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

AND YOU CAN PLAY THE TAPE BACK IF YOU WANT. OKAY. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT AND WORKING WITH US, AND WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE BRINGING TO GARLAND. OKAY. YEP. WELL, I BELIEVE THAT I'VE GOT TO CLOSE IT OUT HERE NOW. SO THAT WAS LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. SO AS OF 923, WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL OUR MEETING OF

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.