* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. THE 18TH. AND THIS [00:00:01] IS THE CITY OF GARLAND. CITY. CITY, I'M SORRY. CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MEETING. AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO CALL THIS, UH, MEETING TO ORDER ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. OKAY. UM, SO THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA. I MOVE, WE ADOPT THE AGENDA. OKAY. I SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE COMMISSION MEETING ON FEBRUARY THE 24TH. 2023. I, UH, MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. I SECOND. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. THE MINUTES FROM THE COMMISSION MEETING ON FEBRUARY THE 24TH. 2023 ARE APPROVED. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE ELIGIBILITY LIST FROM THE POLICE ENTRANCE EXAMINATION CONDUCTED ON MARCH 25TH, 2023. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE LIST. OKAY. AND I SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY, SO ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS APPROVED. UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF AMENDMENTS TO LOCAL RULE R 1 43 0.023 OF THE CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS, CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION RULES AND REGULATIONS. CAN WE GET SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS CHANGE? UH, YES. CHAIR, I'LL BE PRESENTING THAT TO THE OKAY. THE COMMISSION. UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE, AS YOU RECALL, UH, LAST SUMMER, WE MADE AMENDMENTS TO THE SAME RULE IN WHICH WE ADDED A SECTION TO ALLOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT A LATERAL ACADEMY WHEN THEY DIDN'T FILL UP THEIR LIST FROM THE REGULAR ON THAT. WHEN WE DID THAT AMENDMENT, WE ACTUALLY HAD AN EXPIRATION DATE FOR THAT SECTION. SO IT EXPIRED IN END OF DECEMBER, JANUARY. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS WE'VE GONE BACK AND AMENDED IT AGAIN AND WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE SECTION THAT WE ADDED. WE'RE COMBINING IT INTO THE, UH, SECTION THAT EXISTS NOW AND IT DOESN'T HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS WE'VE, WE'VE PUT IN WE WORDING THIS SAYS IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GIVES AN EXAMINATION AND THEY GO THROUGH THEIR ELIGIBILITY LIST AND THEY STILL HAVE VACANCIES, THE CIVIL SERVICE DIRECTOR WILL NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENT. AND IF THE DEPARTMENT HAS THE ABILITY TO CONDUCT A LATERAL ACADEMY, THEY'LL, THEY'LL NOTIFY THE CIVIL SERVICE DIRECTOR WHO WILL THEN POST FOR IT. SO THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT. FIRST, THERE HAS TO BE ELIGIBILITIES AFTER A REGULAR, UH, EXAM, AND IT, IT'S WORDED ANY ELIGIBILITY LIST AFTER ANY ELIGIBILITY LIST IS EXHAUSTED. IF THERE REMAINS VACANCIES WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CIVIL SERVICE DIRECTOR WILL NOTIFY THE CHIEF OF POLICE. HE'S THEN GOING TO SEE, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOST AN ACADEMY AT THIS TIME? AND IF HE DOES, HE'LL NOTIFY THE CIVIL SERVICE DIRECTOR. UM, SO THIS WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP REDOING THIS EVERY SO OFTEN AND PUTTING NEW DATES IN IT'S SET. OKAY. HOW DO YOU THINK SHE, WELL, I, AND THAT'S A GOOD EXPLANATION, BUT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TOO IS THAT WE'RE NOT FILLING ALL OF OUR POSITIONS THROUGH THE REGULAR ACADEMIES. AND SO THE, THE, THE REGULAR ACADEMY IS ABOUT 26 WEEKS. THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO HAVE THE SMALLER LATERAL ACADEMIES AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE HAVING THE BIG ACADEMY TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN. AND SO THIS IS HOW WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP ON OUR STAFF. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, I, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE AMENDMENTS TO LOCAL RULE LR 1 43 2 3 OF THE CITY OF TEXAS. I SECOND THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS APPROVED. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS TO CONSIDER ANY PENDING FIRE DRIVER PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION APPEALS FROM THE EXAMINATION CONDUCTED ON APRIL THE FOURTH, 2023. AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE, THERE ARE NONE. THERE ARE NONE. OKAY. SO, UM, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO CONSIDER ANY PENDING FIRE LIEUTENANT PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION APPEALS FROM THE EXAMINATION CONDUCTED ON APRIL THE FOURTH. AND I DON'T SEE ANY APP ANY ALSO APPEALS. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO CONSIDER ANY PENDING FILE CAPTAIN PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION APPEALS FROM THE EXAMINATION CONDUCTED ON APRIL THE FIFTH, 2023. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE APPEAL SO FAR ON [00:05:01] THIS ITEM. DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? OKAY. YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME. UH, MY NAME'S WILLIAM CRUZ. I'M A LIEUTENANT WITH THE GAR FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND I, I FILED THE APPEAL ON THIS QUESTION. UM, AND IN, IN THE P PAPERWORK THAT I FILED, I, I MADE THE APPEAL THAT THE, UH, THAT THE, IT WAS KEYED WRONG, BUT AFTER FURTHER STUDYING AND LOOKING AT IT, UM, I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A BAD QUESTION. UM, FROM THE SECTION THAT IT'S DRAWN FROM, UM, THE, THE, THE WAY IT'S WORDED, THE, THE, THE, THE ANSWERS THAT ARE THERE, UM, MAKES IT A BAD QUESTION. UM, AND I, AND I THINK THAT THE, THE QUESTION SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE TEST. UM, AND THEN, UH, THE TEST RESCORED BASED ON 99 QUESTIONS. UM, THE ICS SYSTEM IS, IS THE AUTHOR WRITES THROUGHOUT THE BOOK IS A BUILDING BLOCK. UM, AND DEPARTMENTS, UM, HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, CUSTOMIZE IT TO, TO THEIR CIRCUMSTANCE. UM, MATTER OF FACT, HE SAYS ON ON PAGE 50, UH, OF THE TEXT THAT ALTHOUGH ANY INDIVIDUAL ICS WILL BE UNIQUE TO ITS SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES, UM, ALL WILL SHARE THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS. UM, WHICH THEN HE GOES INTO THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE, THE PROCEDURES, COMMON TERMINOLOGY, SO ON AND SO FORTH. UM, A LITTLE BIT LATER, UM, HE, HE STATES ON PAGE 56 THAT, UM, WHETHER YOUR AGENCY IS AFFECTED BY ALL, SOME OR NONE OF THESE PARAMETERS, IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE AGENCY DETERMINE, UM, ITS TRANSFER OF COMMAND PROCEDURES AND PUT THEM IN WRITING. UH, WHILE A TRANSFER OF COMMAND IS A PART OF ICS, THESE SHOWS THERE THAT, THAT WHAT THAT PROCEDURE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IS BASED ON WHAT THE DEPARTMENT DECIDES AND IT ENCOURAGES THEM TO PUT THAT IN WRITING. UM, AND THEN, UM, A LITTLE LATER ON PAGE 61, UH, WHERE HE'S IN TALKING ABOUT TERMINOLOGY OF TASK FORCE AND STRIKE TEAMS, UM, HE ENDS A CAUTION NOTE. UM, AND HE, HE SAYS, ONCE AGAIN, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ALL THE AGENCIES YOU REGULARLY RESPOND WITH AND WORK WITH UNDERSTAND THE RULES YOU'RE PLAYING BY. SO AGAIN, A DEPARTMENT HAS AN ABILITY TO CUSTOMIZE THE ICS OR INSTANT COMMAND SYSTEM TO FIT THEIR AREA. HE JUST ENCOURAGES THEM TO PUT THAT IN WRITING AND ALL THE PLAYERS UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THEN ON PAGE 64, WHERE THIS QUESTION WAS DRAWN FROM, HE DOES TALK ABOUT SECTORING, THE SYSTEM AND HOW IT IS NECESSARY TO SECTOR OUT A SYSTEM TO MAINTAIN SPAN OF CONTROL, UM, AND EFFECTIVELY MANAGE AN INCIDENT. AND HE DOES HAVE A SENTENCE THERE THAT SAYS, IN THE ICS, THE SECTORING OR DIVIDING OF AN INSTANT SEEN IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE USE OF DIVISIONS, GROUPS, AND BRANCHES. AND IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THOSE SAYS, FIRESCOPE ICS AS TAUGHT AT THE NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY, WHICH IS WHAT NFA STANDS FOR, USES ONLY DIVISIONS AND GROUPS. AND, AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE, ON PAGE 65, HE BEGINS THE PARAGRAPH, A PARAGRAPH THERE. HE SAYS, I BELIEVE IT MUST BE NOTED THAT WHILE NEITHER NIMS OR NATIONAL ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM NOR FIRE SCOPE ENDORSE THE TERM SECTOR, MANY FIRE DEPARTMENTS USE SECTORS INSTEAD OF GROUPS OR DIVISIONS EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT HE HAS ALREADY SAID IN THE BOOK. THAT EACH DEPARTMENT, UM, CAN USE THOSE TERMS, USE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WORKS FOR THEIRS. THEY JUST PUT THAT IN WRITING AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT HE FOLLOWS THAT WITH WHICH TERM IS USED AS NOT AS CRITICAL AS UNDERSTANDING THE TERMS, MEANING, RESPONSIBILITIES, AND POSITIONS IN THE ICS ORGANIZATION. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE A MULTIPLE, A MULTITUDE OF ANSWERS THAT COULD BE GIVEN THERE, UH, WHEN ASKING ABOUT ICS IT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THE DEPARTMENT, SO ON AND SO FORTH. UM, AND HE DOES IN THAT, THAT PARAGRAPH BY SAYING THAT SECTOR WAS NOT A PART OF PRESIDENTIAL DIRECT OF FIVE AND EIGHT, WHICH FORMS THE BASIS OF NIMS. SO HE'S NOT GOING TO USE IT IN THE BOOK, ALTHOUGH HE'S ALREADY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, SECTORS ARE EFFECTIVELY USED BY, BY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. UM, SO YOU KNOW, AS THAT QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT TERMS WOULD BE USED? WELL, HE LISTS DIVISIONS, BRANCHES, UM, GROUPS AND, AND SECTORS. AND IF YOU READ THAT PARAGRAPH, ALL FOUR OF THOSE TERMS COULD BE USED. UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS THE BASIS FOR MY APPEAL SAYING THAT BECAUSE OF THOSE PARAGRAPHS AND BECAUSE OF, OF OTHER ITEMS IN THE BOOK, UM, ALL OF THOSE COULD BE RIGHT ANSWERS, OR YOU COULD ANSWER IT BASED ON THE FACT THAT FIRESCOPE ISS UH, ICS ONLY USES DIVISIONS IN GROUPS. THEY DON'T USE BRANCHES, OR YOU COULD USE THE SENTENCE BEFORE THAT SAYING THAT DIVISIONS, BRANCHES AND GROUPS. UM, SO [00:10:01] I, I WOULD APPEAL TO THE COMMISSION, UM, THAT, THAT WE REMOVE THIS QUESTION FROM THE TEST AND THEN RE RE REGRADE THE TEST BASED ON A A 99 QUESTION TEST. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD ELSE, THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, PLEASE. OKAY. UM, MY NAME IS LIEUTENANT MAHAFFEY AND, UH, I ALSO TOOK THAT EXAM. UM, SO SECTOR, THE TERM SECTOR IS DIFFERENT FROM SECTORING, JUST LIKE DIVIDING IS DIFFERENT FROM DIVISION. UM, THE TERM SECTOR WAS USED IN SOME OF THE OLDER MODELS. UM, ON PAGE 50, WE TALK ABOUT THE, UM, SORRY, PAGE 46. IN 1993, SECTORS WERE RECOGNIZED AND INCLUDED AS EQUIVALENTS TO DIVISIONS AND GROUPS. HOWEVER, ON PAGE 47, UM, THE NIMS WAS ENACTED THROUGH PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVES FIVE AND EIGHT, AND THOSE WERE IN 2003 AND 2011. SO THOSE SUPERSEDED THE OLD TERMINOLOGY OF SECTORS. SOME DEPARTMENTS, UH, ADMITTEDLY DO CONTINUE TO USE THAT, BUT THE ICS THAT IS TAUGHT UNDER NIMS THROUGH ORGANIZATIONS AND THROUGH MATERIALS LIKE OUR EXAM SOURCE BOOK, TEACH USING BRANCHES, DIVISIONS, AND GROUPS. IF YOU SWITCH TO PAGE 70, YOU CAN SEE A MODEL OF THE, AM I ABLE TO, TO UTILIZE THIS? YES, IT, YOU CAN, WE CAN SEE IT OVER HERE. YOU CAN. OKAY. SO YOU CAN SEE AN EXAMPLE OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE OF THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM ON IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. UM, WHAT WE HAVE IS A SPAN OF CONTROL. UH, AND THE INITIAL EXAMPLE, FIGURE THREE POINT, UH, TWO, THREE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE OPERATIONS OFFICER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, NINE PERSONNEL AND FUNCTIONS. AND SO WHAT WE DO IN THE SPAN OF CONTROL UNDER ICS, THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM IS WE INTERJECT ANOTHER LAYER OF MANAGEMENT SUCH AS THE BRANCHES HERE AND HERE, SO THAT NOW YOU CAN SEE THAT THE OPERATIONS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR FOUR PARTS, AND THEN EACH OF THOSE BRANCHES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UP TO FIVE DIVISIONS AND GROUPS, WHICH YOU'LL NOTICE IN THIS EXAMPLE IS THE LACK OF SECTOR. COMMON TERMINOLOGY IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US IN THE FIRE SERVICE. IF THERE IS NOT COMMON TERMINOLOGY, THEN WE LOSE FOCUS AND WE HAVE MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND MISCOMMUNICATIONS THAT CAN COST US LIVES IN OUR SERVICE. QUESTION 42 IS ACTUALLY TAKEN FROM PAGE 64, AND WE ARE INSTRUCTED ON PAGE ONE OF THE EXAM TO USE THE COURSE MATERIAL ON PAGE 64. IF YOU ARE READING PAGE, UH, QUESTION NUMBER 42, I CAN READ PAGE 64. AND THIS IS A SIMPLE COMPLETE THE SENTENCE TYPE QUESTION. UM, I DON'T HAVE TO READ IT FOR YOU, BUT IT FINISHES WITH DIVISIONS, GROUPS, AND BRANCHES AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. THERE, IT'LL COME INTO FOCUS DIVISIONS, GROUPS AND BRANCHES. WHAT YOU WILL NOT SEE IS SECTORS. YOU SEE SECTORING, WHICH IS DIFFERENT. YOU CAN REFER TO THE NEXT PAGE, UH, PAGE 65. AND, UM, IT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT SOME DEPARTMENTS USE THE OLD TERMINOLOGY OF SECTORS, UM, BUT THE SOURCE MATERIAL FOR OUR, UH, PROMOTIONAL EXAM SAYS IT WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS BOOK. AND YOU DO NOT SEE SECTORS FROM HERE ON OUT. SO MY CLAIM IS THAT QUESTION NUMBER 42 IS VALID AND VERBATIM AND THROWING IT OUT OR ALTERING ANY ACCEPTABLE ANSWERS TO ALLOW CHOICE D WOULD CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THE TEST TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT THOSE WHO KNEW THE CORRECT ANSWER. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR HIM? NO. ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? YES. THANK YOU. I'M LIEUTENANT THAD WEEMS, UH, THE GARLAND FIRE DEPARTMENT. UH, I ALSO TOOK THE TEST AND ON THAT QUESTION, UH, MARKED [00:15:01] IT CORRECTLY AS, UH, B LEAVING OUT SECTORS BECAUSE THAT, LIKE, I, LIKE I SAID, ON THE NEXT PAGE IT SAYS SOME DO USE IT, BUT NOT IN THIS BOOK. UM, LIKE DAN SAID, IT IS VERBATIM. SO I AGREE WITH THAT ARGUMENT THAT IT REALLY IS JUST RIGHT THERE. UM, AND SO THE BEST ANSWER IS THOSE THREE THINGS. UH, AND THEN ALSO THAT, UH, ICS IS UNDER NIMS. AND SO THE QUESTION IS IN ICS, IT DOESN'T SAY JUST ANYONE. SO UNDER NIMS, NICS, THOSE THREE ARE THE ONLY ANSWER. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU. UM, I DO I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, HOW MANY, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE TOOK THIS TEST? DO WE KNOW? IT'S ITEM NUMBER 12. ITEM 12. ITEM NUMBER 12. OKAY. SO ONLY FOUR. ONLY FOUR. OKAY. THERE'S ONE NOT ON THE LIST. ONE BUILD. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY. FIVE AND THEN THREE ANSWER, I'M SORRY, WE GET TO OURS. THREE ANSWERED CORRECTLY AND TWO ANSWERED INCORRECTLY. I BELIEVE. SO THREE CORRECT AND TWO INCORRECT. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT OR ANYTHING JUST BASED ON THE DIRECTIONS FOR THE EXAM AND THE DATA NATURE? I THINK THAT IT'S GRADED CORRECTLY. MM-HMM . YES. UM, I, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, I I AM IN FAVOR OF UPHOLDING THE EXAM QUESTION AND ANSWER AS IT IS, IT'S AS IT'S ORIGINALLY SCORED. MADAM COMMISSIONER, MAY, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. UH, WHEN YOU REFER TO THE, THE, CAN YOU STEP UP TO THE MIC PLEASE? WHEN YOU REFER TO THE, THE TEST INSTRUCTIONS, UM, IS IT BASED ON THE PAGE 64 OR, UM, BECAUSE WE, WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE BEFORE WHERE WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS WHERE YOU HAVE ONE ANSWER ON ONE PAGE AND ANOTHER ANSWER, AND, AND THE PRO STATUS WAS, WAS BASED ON, WELL, IT WAS ON THIS PAGE. WELL, THE, THE PAGE 64 IS A REFERENCE ONLY TO AN AREA THAT THE REST OF THE, THE BOOK CAN IS NOT EXCLUDED. UH, IN CONSIDERATION OF HOW THAT, HOW THAT TEST OR THAT QUESTION WAS WRITTEN. IT'S JUST BASICALLY A REFERENCE. IT'S NOT SOLELY TO THAT PAGE. I'M JUST REFERRING TO THE, THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN AS YOU, AS YOU TAKE THE EXAM AND ISSUED, I GUESS ISSUED REFERENCE PAGES MORE THAN ANYTHING. I THINK THE, THE QUESTION IS A PRETTY VERBATIM QUESTION FROM, FROM THE REFERENCE MATERIAL. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I, UH, MOVE THAT WE UPHOLD THE EXAM QUESTION AND ANSWER. I SECOND, I UH, OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE AND THAT IS CONSIDER ANY PENDING FIRE BATTALION CHIEF PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION APPEALS FROM, FROM THE EXAMINATION CONDUCTED ON APRIL THE FIFTH, 2023. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ANY APPEALS. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 10 IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE ELIGIBILITY LIST FROM THE FIRE DRIVER PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION CONDUCTED ON APRIL THE FOURTH. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE A LIST. I SECOND THAT. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SO THAT LIST IS A APPROVED ITEM NUMBER 11, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE ELIGIBILITY LIST FROM THE FAR LIEUTENANT PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION CONDUCTED ON APRIL THE FOURTH, 2023. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THAT LIST. ONE SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. SO THAT IS APPROVED. ITEM NUMBER 12, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE ELIGIBILITY LIST FROM THE FIRE CAPTAIN PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION CONDUCTED ON APRIL THE FIFTH, 2023. I MOVE, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THAT LIST. I SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. SO THAT LIST IS APPROVED AND ITEM NUMBER 13 [00:20:02] IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE ELIGIBILITY LIST FROM THE FIRE BATTALION CHIEF PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATION CONDUCTED ON APRIL THE FIFTH, 2023. I MOVE YOUR APPROVED LIST. I SECOND THAT. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. THAT ITEM, THAT LIST IS APPROVED. AND BEFORE WE MOVE TO ADJOURN, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? ANY INFORMATIONAL ITEMS OR ANYTHING? NONE TODAY. OKAY. UM, I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN THE MEETING. I SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SO WE STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. I, THIS WAS VERY, THAT WAS GOOD. COUPLE GOOD? YES. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH BOTH ARGUMENTS. YEAH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.