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TEXT GARLAND

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PLAN COMMISSION.

GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO THE JUNE 22ND MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.

THIS IS OUR CUSTOM WE COMMISSION START OUR MEETING WITH THE PRAYER AND OF PLEDGE.

THEY'RE INVITED TO JOIN US, WHETHER THEY DO OR NOT.

NO WAY.

DECISION TO PLEDGE.

BE LED BY COMMISSIONER GARLAND, OUR PRAISE, LOVING, HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH OPEN HEARTS.

WE THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE DISCOVERED UPON US INDIVIDUALLY AND TO OUR CITY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL DAYS THAT YOU GIVE US THE WARM EVENINGS, THE REFRESHING SHOWERS.

WE THANK YOU FATHER FOR ALL THOSE THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THIS CITY, THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE POLICE, AND ALL THOSE THAT SERVE TO MAKE THIS A WONDERFUL CITY IN THE STATE.

WE THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR THE VISITORS IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

WE ASK THEM THAT THEY HAVE A SAFE AND ENJOYABLE TIME HERE AND A SAFE JOURNEY WHEN THEY RETURN HOME.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US.

WE ASK YOU TO BLESS US, LET US DO RIGHT BY THE CITIZENS AND OUR CITY.

IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME I PRAY, AMEN.

I FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA, THE REPUBLIC RELIGIOUS NATION, INVINCIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ON SCREEN TEXT SHOWS.

WELCOME TO THE JUNE 22ND, 2026 PLAN COMMISSION MEETING, 7:00 PM PEOPLE SIT DOWN OF A LARGE CONFERENCE TABLE UNDER THE GARLAND SIGN.

WELL, GOOD EVENING AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE A LOT OF FOLKS OUT HERE BEING PART OF THE SYSTEM.

I HAVE A FEW SPEAKER CARDS ALREADY.

IF YOU CARE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, IF YOU WANT TO FILL OUT ONE OF THESE SPEAKER CARDS AND HAND IT TO THE PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY, THEN CALL YOUR NAME AND WHEN YOU DO, WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

WE NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORD.

APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

OTHER SPEAKERS, WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES, BUT AS USUAL, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP, LIKE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, WE WILL DEFINITELY ALLOW MORE TIME AFTER EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN, WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO BACK UP TO, UM, ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT HE CARRIES TO THAT WERE BROUGHT UP DURING THE OTHER TESTIMONY.

AND AGAIN, NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL START TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH OUR ITEM ONE A JUNE 8TH, 2026.

PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES TEXT SCOTT ROBERTS, CHAIRMAN AND I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL JUST SITTING THERE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

I WOULD LIKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE TO MINUTES AS PRESENTED.

AND SEC SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

UH, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I THINK THERE'S A, A MINOR AMENDMENT ON THE, UH, RANGE DRIVE.

I THINK THE MINUTES READ THAT.

UH, MY MOTION WAS TO USE DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS.

I DIDN'T INTEND IT TO MEAN THAT IT MEANT THE OPTION TO USE DROUGHT RESISTANT PLAN TEXT EDGAR MIRANDA.

OKAY.

UM, WOULD THE MAKE A MOTION, UH, IN A SECOND? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

UH, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT, UH, THAT CHANGE AND MAKER OF THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER ABEL AND, AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS A SECOND.

CONCUR.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

UM, CAN YOU ENTER THE MOTIONS AGAIN IN A SECOND? IT DISAPPEARED, PLEASE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I HIT THE CLEAR BUTTON.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

IT'S OKAY.

ALL RIGHTY.

AND PLEASE VOTE TEXT TERRY WALSH.

DISTRICT ONE TEXT GEORGE COYLE'S.

DISTRICT TWO TEXT PAUL MORA.

DISTRICT THREE TEXT JR COOK DISTRICT FOUR.

DID YOU CLEAR IT AGAIN, SIR? I SHOULDN'T DO THAT.

.

NO, WE'RE WORKING WITH A, A RELATIVELY NEW SYSTEM HERE.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, IF YOU'LL SECONDED AGAIN.

OKAY.

DO WE NEED TO VOTE AGAIN? YES SIR.

PLEASE.

AND I KEEP MY HAND OFF THE BUTTON.

IS IT SHOWING UP ON EVERYONE'S SCREEN? NO.

THE VOTE NO HERE.

CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS HAND GESTURE.

I'M KEEPING MY HANDS HERE.

CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS MOVES HAND THEN LOWERS.

IT'LL GO OFF ON ITS OWN THEN.

ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC HEARING.

ITEM TWO A Z 26 DASH 11 HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER THE APPLICATION LONE STAR GREEN HOMES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 22 DASH 26 TO ALLOW DWELLING ZERO LOT LINE HOMES AS A PERMITTED USE AND AMEND CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS TO A CONCEPT PLAN FOR OF THE PD SITE IS LOCATED THAT 1 3 5 0 EAST MILLER ROAD.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, OR GOOD EVENING.

STUART

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STARRY PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD DISTRICT 22 DASH 21 TO ALLOW FOR DWELLING ZERO LOT LINE HOMES AS A PERMITTED USE AND MODIFY CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

TEXT Z 25 11.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED ON 1350 EAST MILLER ROAD IS THREE POINT 18 ACRES AND IS WITHIN DISTRICT TWO CITY MAP, THEN A ZONING MAP.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INSTITUTIONAL AND PUBLIC USES.

THE NORTH ACROSS EAST MILLER ROAD ARE RETAIL USES ZONE PD OH SIX DASH 12, UH, WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ZONED PD 83 DASH 54 WITH A BASE ZONING OF SF SEVEN.

THE EAST IS THE GARLAND FIRE STATION NUMBER EIGHT ZONE PD 85 DASH 52.

UH, TO THE SOUTH IS A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION ZONED PD OH FOUR DASH OH NINE WITH A BASE ZONING OF SF SEVEN INTO THE WEST.

ACROSS SOUTH COUNTRY CLUB ROAD IS THE GARLAND ISD EDUCATION CENTER STONED, UH, COMMUNITY RETAIL AS WELL.

OVERALL, THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN'S.

COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS DESIGNATION, WHICH SUPPORTS A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND DETACHED HOUSING ENCOURAGES COMPAT UH, COMPATIBLE INFILL REDEVELOPMENT.

THE REQUEST DOES NOT INCREASE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DENSITY UNDER PD 22 DASH 26 AND EXPANDS THE HOUSING OPTIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

HERE WE GOT SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE TAKEN, UH, BOTH FROM EAST MILLER ROAD AND SOUTH COUNTRY, UH, CLUB ROAD AS REQUIRED BY THE EXISTING PD.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FRONTAGE INCLUDES 28 CANOPY TREES ALONG THE REQUIRED WROUGHT IRON SCREENING FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS.

THIS EXCEEDS THE GDC MINIMUM REQUIREMENT AND IN WHICH CASE IN THIS CASE WOULD BE 15 CANOPY TREES.

TEXT SEVEN IN THESE TWO PICTURES, UH, WERE TAKEN FROM WITHIN THE PROPERTY AND THE IMAGE TO THE LEFT IS FACING SOUTH AND IT SHOWS THE REQUIRED PLAYGROUND AMENITY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED.

AND THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT FACING WEST SHOWS THE INTERNAL RIGHT OF WAY LEADING TO, UH, THE SOUTH COUNTRY CLUB ROAD FRONTAGE WHERE THE REQUIRED GAZEBO AND SEATING AREA HAVE ALSO BEEN INSTALLED.

THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S CONCEPT PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY ZERO LOT LINE HOMES IN ORANGE ALONG EAST MILLER ROAD AND TO THE EAST ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING FIRE STATION.

THE LOCATION OF THE ZERO LOT LINE HOMES WAS INTENTIONALLY PLACED AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORING SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES.

BECAUSE THESE ARE PROPOSED AS THREE STORY BUILDINGS, UH, RETAINING THE ALREADY APPROVED TWO STORY TOWN HOMES ALONG THE SINGLE FAMILY ADJACENCY ENSURES THOSE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY THE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS.

THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR THE LOTS WILL REMAIN UNCHANGED EXCEPT FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED SITE SETBACK.

FOR THE ZERO LOT LINE HOMES, THE STANDARD UNDER THE GDC WOULD BE 10 FEET AND HE IS REQUESTING TO REDUCE THAT TO THREE FEET.

UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE REFERENCE ELEVATIONS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT FOR THE THREE STORY ZERO LOT LINE HOMES, WHICH FEATURE A DESIGN ELEMENTS SUCH AS DORMERS, GABLES, PAN WINDOWS, AND A FRONT PORCH WITH A RAILING AND A COLUMN.

TEXT BUILDING ELEVATIONS SHALL BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH EXHIBIT D.

THE APPLICANT'S PD AMENDMENT REQUEST INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS.

DWELLING ZERO LOT LINE IS ADDED AS A PERMITTED USE WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 35 FEET.

EACH ZERO LOT LINE HOME SHALL PROVIDE TWO CANOPY TREES WITHIN THE LOT, AT LEAST ONE OF WHICH SHALL BE LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARD.

PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENTS.

THE APPLICANT ALSO REQUESTS TO REDUCE THE SITE SETBACK REQUIREMENT FROM THE STANDARD 10 FEET UNDER THE GDC TO THREE FEET AND TO SATISFY CONCERNS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THAT FIRE SPRINKLER INSTALLATION BE REQUIRED IN ALL ZERO LOT LINE HOMES.

THE NEW SLIDE APPEARS WITH THE TITLE RECOMMENDATIONS IN PAGE NUMBER 11.

THE REQUEST

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IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION, MAINTAINS THE SAME RESIDENTIAL DENTIST, UH, DENSITY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED UNDER PD 22 DASH 26, AND EXPANDS HOUSING OPTIONS WHILE REMAINING COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

ADDITIONALLY, THE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES ENHANCED LANDSCAPING THAT EXCEEDS GDC REQUIREMENTS AND THE APPLICANT IS INCREASING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CANOPY TREES ON THE SITE TO MATCH THE CITY'S STANDARDS FOR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

TEXT INCLUDE A DOG PARK.

AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PD AMENDMENT REQUESTS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT A DOG PARK BE PROVIDED IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY ALONG EAST MILLER ROAD.

THE DOG PARK SHALL INCLUDE A MINIMUM FOUR FOOT TALL ENCLOSED FENCE, SEATING, TRASH RECEPTACLES, AND A DOUBLE GATE ENTRY, AND SHALL SERVE AS ONE OF THE REQUIRED PROJECT AMENITIES, TEXT RESPONSE LETTERS.

WE SENT OUT A TOTAL OF 108 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND ONLY RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AGAINST.

I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I GOT, UM, I'M SORRY, THE APPLICANT DID SHARE SOME PICTURES KIND OF LAST MINUTE FOR ME, SO I, UH, I DID INCLUDE SOME MORE, UH, PICTURES IN THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT.

UM, THESE ARE THE EXISTING, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE.

SCREEN BLACKS AERIAL VIEW OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA WAS HOUSES IN THE PLAYGROUND.

A MAN STANDS AT A PODIUM TYPING ON A LAPTOP THAT'LL STAND WITH FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

HOW'S IT GOING? GOOD.

HOW ABOUT, HOW ARE YOU? DOING WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING.

OKAY, LET'S GET TO IT.

CANOPY TREES.

UM, I HEAR THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MADE THE PROPOSAL FOR THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE WOULD'VE NORMALLY REQUIRED.

I WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY, UM, OF THAT.

UH, IT'S A REALLY TIGHT SPACE AND SO I'M, I'M WONDERING HOW THAT COMPLICATES OR MIGHT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE, MAKE THE LOTS MUCH MORE CONDENSED THAN THEY MIGHT OTHERWISE BE.

GOTCHA.

SO, UM, I'M SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY.

SO ARE ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF, UH, THE TREES OR TWO CANOPY TREES PER EACH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY, GOTCHA.

UM, YEAH, THAT, SO THAT IS REALLY JUST BASED OFF OUR STANDARD REQUIREMENT AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO THE APPLICANT.

THE APPLICANT, UH, REALLY DIDN'T HESITATE MUCH TO AGREE TO, TO PROVIDING THAT.

UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS.

OF COURSE, IF THERE WAS, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, OPTIONS FOR SUBSTITUTING INSTEAD OF THE CANOPY TREE.

IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THREE SMALLER ORNAMENTAL TREES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF IT WAS AN ISSUE.

UH, BUT WITH THAT, I THINK I'LL KIND OF SPEAK, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THAT IS FEASIBLE OR NOT BASED ON THIS PROJECT.

OKAY.

TO, TO ASK TO DRILL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO THE TWO CANOPY TREES.

THEY COULD IN THE ALTERNATIVE OFFER, UH, ORNAMENTAL TREES OF SOME SORT.

UM, WOULD THAT BE, WOULD THAT DEVIATION REQUIRE THEM TO SEEK ADDITIONAL CONSENT FROM DEVELOPMENT OR COULD THEY JUST DO THAT? YEAH, SO THAT WOULD BE THROUGH AN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE PROCESS THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER MIRANDA.

THERE YOU GO.

THERE WE GO.

MY LIFE NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

I GOT ONE QUICK CLARIFICATION.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE APPLICANT REQUESTED DECREASE SOCIETY OR SETBACK REQUIREMENT.

CAN YOU SHOW ME? I GUESS MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW THE CURSOR KIND OF LIKE WHERE, LIKE HOW, HOW, HOW THAT'S GONNA LOOK IF THEY SHOWED IT IN THERE? YEAH, SO THE SIDE, UH, SETBACK IS ONLY GONNA APPLY FOR THE NEW, UH, PROPOSED ZERO LOT LINE HOMES.

RIGHT.

SINCE THE, UH, TOWN HOMES RIGHT.

DON'T HAVE ANY SIDE, UH, SETBACK.

SO, UM, I KNOW IT, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE HARD TO SEE THERE, BUT IN THE ORANGE ONES THERE IS A DOTTED LINE THAT RUNS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE HERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

AND THAT'S KIND OF THAT THREE FOOT, UH, SETBACK THAT MAKES A LITTLE ALLEY.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO GET A LITTLE VISUAL.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH TEXT JERRY JONES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, IN READING THROUGH THIS, I MADE SOME NOTES THAT'S FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC AND, AND OUR COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE, UH, UH, THE APPLICANT, THE BELL AND MIRANDA WATCH THEIR MONITORS.

I BELIEVE IN THE READING IT, THE LOT SIZES ARE 1,750 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND, UH, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT TELLS US WHAT THE, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE THREE STORY RESIDENCE MIGHT BE? I DON'T

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KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE DWELLING UNIT MIGHT BE.

UH, PERHAPS THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

OKAY.

AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME OTHER COMMENTS, UH, IN THE, IN THE WRITEUP ABOUT, UH, UH, THE CONCERN FOR A THREE STORY HOME, UH, BACKING UP TO A A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

UH, WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTIONS FOR VIEWING, UH, FROM A THIRD LEVEL INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S HOME? TEXT ED GU MIRANDA? UH, THERE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A RESTRICTION AS FAR AS I KNOW AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, BOTH, UH, PROPERTIES ARE MEETING THEIR, UH, MAXIMUM, UH, HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS AND THEIR SETBACKS.

UM, HOWEVER, UH, WE DID THINK THAT IT WAS PRUDENT FOR THE APPLICANT NOT TO, UH, PUT THESE THREE STORY HOMES THERE AS TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY PEOPLE DON'T LOOK FAVORABLY TO A TALLER BUILDING MM-HMM .

UH, BEING RAISED NEXT TO THEM.

UH, BUT YEAH, I MEAN THERE, THERE WOULDN'T BE A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT IT BESIDES LIKE THE SETBACK IF THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO US ON THAT.

SO THE HOMES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, THOSE ARE TWO STORIES.

THOSE ARE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES.

THE ONES IN BLUE ARE TWO STORY ORANGE, ONES ARE THREE TEXT TERRY MILLER AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE BOTTOM BEHIND THE TWO, THE HOMES THAT ARE NEXT TO THE THE ORANGE STREET ARE TWO, THOSE ARE THREE.

ORANGE ARE THREE.

THE ORANGES ARE THREE.

TWO OR TWO.

OKAY.

TWO MONITORS ON THE WALL DISPLAY CHARTS.

OKAY.

ANOTHER, ANOTHER THING THAT CAME TO MIND IN LOOKING AT THIS IS DOES EACH HOME HAVE TWO PARKING PLACES IN THE GARAGE? PLANS ON SCREENS? UH, YES.

THEY, THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TWO ENCLOSED PARKING SPACES.

AND SO AND WILL THEY HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES? MAN SPEAKS LAPTOPS IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE.

I BEL UH, THE GARAGES ARE, THEY'LL HAVE SPACE FOR ONE CAR IN THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAY HAS TO BE AT LEAST 20 FEET.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

DIFFERENT DRIVEWAY.

SO THE, THE MAXIMUM PARKING FOR THE HOMEOWNER IS THREE CARS BASED ON THIS, RIGHT? YEAH.

IT WOULD BE TWO ENCLOSED AND ONE OUTSIDE.

BUT THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE FOR TWIN ENCLOSED.

RIGHT.

AND THEN A 20 FOOT DRIVEWAY.

RIGHT.

MY CONCERN IS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I CAN'T TELL WHAT THE WIDTH OF THE STREET IS.

UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 50 FEET.

IT, IT WOULD BE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'D BE 50 FEET.

THE PAVE SECTION'S PROBABLY ABOUT 28 I THINK.

SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.

SEVERAL PEOPLE.

A TABLE SCREEN SHOW DIAGRAMS. 'CAUSE I NOTICED WE ONLY HAVE THREE.

I BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY THREE PUBLIC PARKING PLACES.

UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY NINE PARKING, UH, SPACES FOR VISITORS BEING PROVIDED.

THERE'S UH, THREE HERE BY THE, BY THE DETENTION PLAN, THE PLAYGROUND NOW, AND THEN THERE'S SIX BY THE PLAYGROUND.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT.

ANYBODY ELSE? I'VE JUST GOT ONE QUICK QUESTION.

UH, IN THE LETTER THAT WE GOT BACK, SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THEY THOUGHT HAD BEEN ZONED FOR SELF STORAGE OR SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT EVER WAS IN MY RECOLLECTION.

UH, YES, I SAW THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT EVER HAS BEEN, BUT DEFINITELY THE CURRENT ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SELF STORAGE.

RIGHT.

WE DO READ THE LETTERS FOLKS.

.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THEN COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH.

THANK YOU SHERIFF.

A SECOND TO GO AROUND HERE.

UM, I IS THE, IS THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S REPRESENTED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, THAT BEING THE CUT THROUGHS FOR TRAFFIC, WHAT'S ACTUALLY THERE? YES.

OKAY.

SO, UH, SO THERE ARE THOSE THAT EXIT FROM STAR ROAD ONTO MILLER HAVE TO GO DOWN, UH, MILLER SOME DISTANCE, AND THEN THEY CAN MAKE A U-TURN.

AND THEN CONVERSELY, THAT THOSE THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN TURNING IN THE LARGE DIAGRAM ON SCREEN, UH, HAVE TO COME ABOUT AT SORT OF A ROUNDABOUT WAY AS WELL.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.

YES, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH.

SORRY, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT, UH, TRAFFIC INTO THE OPPOSITE LANE THAT THAT'S NEXT TO THE PROPERTY.

SO THERE IS NO DIRECT CROSS, IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.

UH, NO, I'M SORRY, I I ONE OF MY NOTES HERE IN THE, UH, IN THE WRITEUP THERE WAS A NOTATION ABOUT TWO HOA LOTS.

CAN YOU IDENTIFY THOSE? AND I, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHY JUST TWO HOA LOTS OR IS THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT GONNA BE A HOA UH, YEAH, SO I, I BELIEVE THE TWO HOA LOTS ARE, ARE GONNA BE, UH, DEDICATED FOR THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE FRONTAGES.

AND THEN, UH, THE, WHEREVER THE PLAYGROUND IS IN THE, UH, SOUTHEASTERN CORNER MM-HMM .

UH, THOSE WILL BE

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HOA LOTS THAT NEED TO BE MAINTAINED BY AN HOA THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE CREATED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO AN HOA WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

ALRIGHTYY.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, ALRIGHTYY.

I'VE GOT A FEW SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS.

I'VE, UH, GOT, LET'S SEE, THE OWNER, UH, MR. SHEHE, I TALK CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS AT DESK TEXT.

SCOTT ROBERTS CHAIRMAN, HE SMILES, LOOKS RIGHT THAN DOWN AT PAPERS OR BOBBY ROLLINS, WHOEVER WANTS TO SPEAK, OR BOTH OF YOU.

SCOTT ROBERTS SMILES LOOKS RIGHT THAN AHEAD.

I'M GETTING A LITTLE HARD OF HEARING.

I'M BOBBY RAWLINGS.

OH, WOW.

I LIVE AT, UH, 3 2 2 1 ST.

GEORGE'S DRIVE IN PLANO, TEXAS.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING OR ASSISTING THE OWNER, UH, IN THIS ZONING RECLASSIFICATION.

I, I THINK THE MAIN OVERVIEW, WE ORIGINALLY HAD 37 TOWNHOUSE LOTS ON THIS SITE.

AND JUST TO BUSINESS DECISION AND MARKET FLUCTUATIONS, THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A LITTLE LARGER PRODUCT THAN THE TOWNHOUSE ONES.

THE TOWNHOUSE RANGE IN ABOUT 1,750 SQUARE FEET.

THE ZERO LOT LINE UNITS WILL BE AROUND 2300 SQUARE FEET.

UH, I'VE HEARD YOU ASK SOME QUESTIONS.

I'LL TRY TO COVER SOME OF 'EM HERE.

THE, THE BLUE, I DON'T SEE THE, THE, THE PROPOSED PLAN.

THE BLUE UNITS ARE THE TOWNHOUSE UNITS.

PUT THAT BACK UP TO HELP YOU.

OH, I'M SORRY.

DID I HIT SOMETHING? WE'VE GOT A SCREEN HERE WHERE IT SHOWS UP.

ANOTHER MAN APPROACHES THE PODIUM, INTERACTS BRIEFLY WITH THE LAPTOP AND THEN WOKES AWAY.

THERE WE GO.

WE'LL START WITH THIS.

THE BLUE UNITS ARE TOWNHOUSE UNITS AND THEY WERE IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS.

THEY, THEY ARE NOT CHANGING.

UH, THESE ARE THE SAME UNITS THAT WOULD'VE BUILT IF WE BUILT ALL 37 IN TOWNHOUSE.

THESE WOULD'VE BEEN A PORTION OF THAT 16.

OF THOSE 37, WHAT THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO DO IS CONVERT THE OTHER 21 LOTS FROM A TOWNHOUSE LOT, WHICH HAS COMMON WALL CONSTRUCTION.

THOSE YOU, YOU HAVE A BUILDING OF FIVE UNITS, ANOTHER BUILDING OF FIVE UNITS AND A BUILDING OF SIX UNITS.

THERE IS NO, UH, THE WALLS ARE A COMMON WALL BETWEEN THEM WHERE ON A ZERO LOT LINE YOU'RE BUILDING.

IF, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO EDUCATE, BUT I'M JUST A, UH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUILDING RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE ON ONE SIDE, BUT THREE FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE OTHER.

SO THE UNIT, UH, THEY DON'T ADJOIN A, A A UNIT.

THERE'S, UH, IT'S A FREESTANDING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY TYPE UNIT AS OPPOSED TO A TOWNHOUSE UNIT.

UH, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE HOA, THERE IS A HOA, UH, ALL RESIDENTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO JOIN THE HOA, THE HOA LOTS.

IT'S HARD TO TELL, BUT VIRTUALLY ALL THE GREEN SPACE IS HOA OWNED AND MAINTAINED.

AND THOSE ARE DESIGNATED ON THE PLAT AS A SPECIFIC LOT, JUST LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY LOT IS.

THOSE ARE HOA LOTS AND THE WAY WE COMBINE THEM, UH, BACK BEHIND THE LOTS, THERE WERE ONLY TWO OF THEM NECESSARY WHEN WE PLANTED IT WITH THE CITY WHEN WE PUT A A LOT DESIGNATION ON THEM.

I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO THINK SOME OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

BASICALLY, THE OWNER'S JUST TRYING TO BUILD A LITTLE LARGER UNIT THAN HE HAD BEFORE.

THEY ARE GOING TO THREE STORY, BUT THESE THREE STORY WILL NOT BACK UP TO ANY, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

IT'LL BACK UP.

THEY WILL, THEY WILL BACK TO MILLER ROAD.

AND, UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC, INGRESS, EGRESS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU EXIT ONTO COUNTRY CLUB, YOU CAN ONLY GO NORTH AND THEN YOU'RE AT THE LIGHT AT MILLER ROAD.

YOU EITHER GO EAST WIDTH WHEN YOU EXIT ONTO MILLER ROAD DOWN NEAR THE FIRE STATION.

YOU CAN ONLY GO EAST ON THAT.

BUT THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.

THAT'S ALL YOU COULD HAVE DONE WITH THE 37 TOWNHOUSE SLOTS.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO IGNORE .

UH, THAT'S ALL YOU COULD HAVE DONE WITH THE 37 TOWNHOUSE LOTS IS GO EAST OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UH, OUR ORIGINAL ZONING WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE P AND Z AND THROUGH CITY COUNCIL.

WE'VE, UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS.

I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT'S A LONGER TIME THAN I NORMALLY SPEND ON A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE.

BOBBY ROLLINS STANDS A PODIUM.

UH, WE'VE GOTTEN DOWN.

IT IS, YOU'VE SEEN THE PICTURES OF IT.

IT HAS BEEN INSPECTED BY THE CITY.

UH, WATER, UH, ALL UTILITIES AND PAVING HAS BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.

UH, IT'S ACTUALLY READY TO GO VERTICAL ON CONSTRUCTION.

BUT WITH THIS BUSINESS CHANGE OR THIS DECISION TO CHANGE AND TRY TO ADD A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PRODUCT ALONG WITH THE TOWNHOUSES, UH, WE'RE COMING BACK BEFORE P AND Z BECAUSE THAT'S THE STEPS WE'VE GOTTA TAKE.

AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL TO TRY TO GET THIS AMENDMENT TO THIS PD AND HOPEFULLY THIS COMMISSION WILL LOOK FAVORABLY UPON THAT.

AND IF I CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL SURE TRY TO DO.

SO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US AND FOR YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION THROUGHOUT.

TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

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IT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.

DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION REGARDING THE CANOPY TREES? DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION REGARDING THE, THE CANOPY? TREES? TREES? YEAH.

YES, SURE.

MY, MY THOSE LIGHT, THOSE LOTS ARE REALLY TIGHT.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE IN THERE AND TREES BEING TREES.

AND I'M A TREE GUY.

I LOVE TREES.

AND THIS IS NOT A ANTI TREE THING.

I'M CONCERNED THAT YOU'RE OVER PROMISING THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'LL PUT TWO CANOPY TREES ON VERY TIGHT LOTS AND THOSE TREES WILL GET TALL AS TREES DO.

AND, UH, THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO CUT 'EM DOWN.

AND SO I'M WONDERING, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CONFIDENT ABOUT THE TWO, I BELIEVE ON WHEN IT WAS TOWNHOUSE, WE WERE REQUIRED FOR ONE TREE ON THE FRONT OF THOSE IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TAKE ONE OUT.

I, I, I CAN'T AN I I'M, I'M NOT ARBORIST.

I DON'T KNOW.

AND, AND, UH, WE MIGHT LOOK AT PUTTING ONE IN A REAR YARD AREA.

THAT'S PART OF THE LOT.

UH, I, I DON'T HAVE, I I'M, I'M NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ENOUGH TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION ABOUT YOU.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IN 20 OR 25 YEARS, UH, I'VE GOT TWO RED OAKS IN MY FRONT YARD THAT WERE SIX INCHES AT ONE TIME.

NOW YOU CAN HARDLY SEE MY HOUSE.

THERE'S SOME BIG, UH, BEHIND IT.

THAT WAS 30 YEARS AGO TEXT.

SO WAYNE BOLDEN, WE, I MEAN, I, I GUESS, I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT, I, I LOVE YOUR CONFIDENCE.

I LOVE THE PROMISE.

I DON'T WANT THE PROMISE TO DETERIORATE IN 25 TO 30 YEARS.

RIGHT? AND SO I'D RATHER, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PDS REQUEST REGARDING WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE COMMUNITY.

THE HOA HAS AN ISSUE WITH TREES AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE JUST CUTTING 'EM ALL DOWN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO.

UM, AND THEN THE, THE, THE AREA JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE FULFILLING PROMISE THAT WE'RE OFFERING TODAY.

BUT IF, IF, IF YOU ALL ARE CONFIDENT THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN DO AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE, THEN, THEN LET'S KEEP THAT, LET'S RUN WITH THAT.

THAT'S A FANTASTIC THING.

AND AS WELL, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL.

WE, I'VE HAD A CHANCE.

I LIVE VERY CLOSE BY.

I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WATCH YOUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

YOU ALL HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT IN TERMS OF THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, THE CLEANLINESS OF THE LOTS.

YOU, NOT A LOT OF DIRT THAT COMES ONTO THE STREET AFTERWARD.

YOU, YOU WERE VERY ORDERLY IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS TO GET TOGETHER.

YOU CAN THANK THE CITY FOR THAT.

THAT'S .

THAT'S, THAT'S THEM KEEPING YOU HONEST.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL AS ALL IS SAY WE, WE WERE, I WAS EXCITED ABOUT THIS BEFOREHAND.

I REMAIN EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I JUST, AGAIN, WANT WHATEVER IS ON THAT PAPER, THAT PD TO BE WHAT IS REPRESENTED ON THE LINE.

I'M NOT GONNA TURN MY BACK ON YOU.

I'M GONNA LOOK AT THE OWNER AND SEE WHAT IF HE HAS SOMETHING HE WANTS TO SAY, OH, HE'S MOVED ALREADY.

HE'S , HE'S ANTICIPATED THIS.

MY EYES IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD HAVE FAILED ME AGAIN.

AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

ABOUT THE TWO TREES.

RIGHT? UH, THANK YOU, UH, ABOUT THE TWO TREES, I THINK SO WE CAN GO BACK TO OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND COME BACK AND, BUT I THINK WE, WE'LL TRY OUR BEST.

UH, I AGREE TO YOU.

UH, WE DON'T WANNA OVER PROMISE, BUT I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN ADD, UH, DEFINITELY WE HAVE TO ADD ONE TREE.

UH, I THINK WE, WHAT WE ARE, WE HAVE ON THE CONDITIONS IS ONE TREE IN THE FRONT AND ONE, LIKE OF THOSE TWO REQUIRED, ONE HAS TO BE IN THE FRONT AND THE OTHER ONE CAN BE IN THE REAR.

SO THEY'RE NOT BOTH AT THE SAME LOCATION.

SO WITH THAT, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, BUT WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK, UM, WITH THE APPLICANT AND HIS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

AND, AND, AND NOWADAYS WE ALSO HAVE LIKE, UH, LIKE I ALSO DO CUSTOM HOMES.

UH, WE DO GET OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT LIKE, UM, EVERGREEN TREES THERE, LIKE, LIKE SIX INCHES.

THEY STAY SIX INCHES ALL THE TIME.

SO THERE ARE OPTIONS TO ADD TREES WITH MINIMIZING THE, THE, THE GROWTH OF THE ROLLINS MAKE IT PODIUM THE TRUNK SIZE.

SURE.

AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'LL BE GREAT THAT YOU'VE GOT THOSE OPTIONS.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, I'M THINKING FRENCH STYLE, THE LARGE, STRAIGHT UP IN THE AIR SPEED, STRAIGHT UP TYPE TREES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE QUALIFY AS CANOPY TREES PER SE, BUT I'M NOT COMPLAINING EITHER WAY.

JUST I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH STAFF.

I KNOW THE STAFF AS WELL HAS OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE THAT THEY CAN ASSIST YOU WITH.

WE JUST WANNA SEE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, COME, COME TO FRUITION.

SO THANK YOU.

GREAT.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BOBBY FOR PRESENTATION.

YEAH.

UH, AND APPRECIATE THE COMMENT.

UH, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TAKEN, UH, BOBBY ROLLINS ADJUST M**K, UM, SOME EXTRA TIME TO COME, UH, FINISH UP THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS KIND OF, AS BOBBY WAS SAYING, IT'S, IT'S DONE AND COMPLETED.

AND WE HAVE, UH, TRIED OUR BEST TO ENHANCE THE DEVELOPMENT BY, AS YOU'VE SEEN, LIKE WE HAVE, UM, ENHANCED THE, THE BRICK, THE COLOR OF THE BRICK TO BROWN AND USING THE WHITE MOTOR.

AND ALSO WE HAVE ENHANCED THE, THE COLUMNS BETWEEN, I BELIEVE YOU SEE THE PRESENTER IN A BLUE SHIRT LEANS OVER A LAPTOP, GESTURES WITH A RED PEN AND TYPES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IF YOU CAN SEE THE, THE COLUMNS, THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED AERIAL VIEW OF UNDEVELOPED LOSS ROADS AND A PLAYGROUND.

SO THEY, WE HAVE IN INCREASE ENHANCED, OH, I DUNNO IF WE CAN, OKAY.

YEAH.

THE WIDE COLUMNS BETWEEN THE BRAKES, UM, AND ALSO ON THE MILLER ROAD.

UH, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE UPGRADED THE QUALITY

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AND WE HAVE ADDED WHITE MOTOR.

WE, AND WE USE THE LARGE FORMAT STONES TO ENHANCE THE, THE PURIFICATION OF UNDEVELOPED LAND NEAR HOUSES IN A ROAD.

THE DEFENSE AND I, I BELIEVE, UH, WE HAVE ALSO ADDED SOME EXTRA LANDSCAPE.

WELL, WELL, LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE, YOU'D, YOU'D MADE COMMENT, SIR, ABOUT PARKING.

YOU CAN SEE THE ONES DOWN BY THE PLAYGROUND A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY, YOU CAN SEE THE MARKS OF THEM.

AND THEN THERE'S OTHERS A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE STREET.

IT'S LOOKS LIKE A, A GRAY SQUARE THERE, BUT THERE'S PARKING SPACES THERE.

YEAH, I THAT RECALLS THERE WILL BE TWO INGAR IN GARAGE PARKING LOCATION FOR EACH HOUSE AND THEN TWO SURFACE PARKING.

BUT BEHIND THAT, THE, THE, THE DRIVEWAYS ARE GONNA BE TWO CAR WIDE AS WIDE AS THE GARAGE.

SO EACH HOUSE YOU CAN PARK TWO IN THE GARAGE AND TWO ON THE DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER GUEST TYPE PARKING OR VISITOR TYPE PARKING IN THE SUBDIVISION.

AND I DO NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORD, PLEASE.

YEAH.

UH, MY NAME IS SHAHE ALTA.

I LIVE IN, UM, IRVING, 4 7 0 4 AL MEDIA COURT.

THANK YOU.

IRVING, TEXAS 7 5 0 6 2.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER DOUGLAS.

SCOTT ROBERTS LOOKS RIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR.

UH, I WANT TO KIND OF, UH, PIGGYBACK ON COMMISSIONER JENKINS' COMMENTS ABOUT THE TREES.

UH, MY DAUGHTER BOUGHT A NEW HOME ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO, AND I'M SORRY TO SAY THE DEVELOPER PUT TRASH TREES IN THE FRONT YARDS AND IN THE BACKYARDS.

AND IT WASN'T LONG BEFORE THOSE TREES WERE JUST WILD AND CRAZY AND WE HAD TO REPLACE IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

SO I I, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO USE A TREE THAT'S SUITABLE FOR THE LOT SIZE.

UH, I'M LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE AND IF I WERE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THERE, IF YOU PUT A LARGE CANOPY TREE THERE, THE LEAVES ARE GONNA COME IN MY YARD THAT I HAVE TO PICK UP PROBABLY.

SO, UH, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE COGNIZANT.

KINDA A LITTLE COMMON SENSE ON WHAT SIZE TREES, I THINK IS HE RECOMMENDING SOMETHING THAT THAT FITS THE DECOR OF THE, OF THE DEVELOPMENT? IF I CAN, THE CITY HAS A LIST OF ACCEPTABLE TREES, MEET THEIR GUIDELINES THAT WILL WE'LL PICK FROM.

BUT ALSO THERE, JUST REMIND YOU, THERE'S AN HOA HERE, ALMOST ALL EXTERIOR YARD MAINTENANCE AND SUCH WILL BE A PROFESSIONAL, A PROFESSIONAL COMPANY WILL BE MAINTAINING THIS MM-HMM .

SO THEY WON'T TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN YARDS THEN.

NO.

WELL THERE'S REALLY, WHEN IT'S ALL BUILT OUT, SIR, THERE WILL NOT BE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE OTHER THAN OUR COMMON AREAS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE HOA.

BUT, UH, WELL THEN MY, I COMMENTED A WHILE AGO ABOUT THE, UH, UH, THE, THE, UH, HARD DROUGHT TYPE PLANTS, UH, WITH THIS TIGHT OF AN AREA FOR A TREE.

THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF PLACES FOR THE ROOTS TO GET MOISTURE.

RIGHT.

IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, SO, RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY.

YES SIR.

IF YOU COULD CLARIFY AGAIN FOR ME, UM, THE, THE TWO STORY, UH, UNITS THAT BACK UP TO THE EXISTING FAMILIES, SO I CAN GO AHEAD.

THE TWO STORY UNIT, YOU KNOW, I NORMALLY HAVE A RED CLICKER AND PEOPLE GET, MY QUESTION IS, IS THE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET, THOSE ARE ALL SINGLE STORY, RIGHT? I DUNNO.

TO THE SOUTH OF OUR PROPERTY MM-HMM .

WELL, YOU CAN SEE 'EM UNDER WHATEVER, WHEREVER THE HOUSES ARE.

THEY'RE GONNA BE THE, SO THE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSES DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THEM? UHHUH THAT YOUR UNITS WERE BACK? SOME OF THEM ARE ONE STORY AND SOME OF THEM ARE TWO STORY.

ACTUALLY.

MOST OF 'EM LOOKING AT THERE LOOK LIKE THEY'RE ONE SINGLE STORY.

RIGHT? YEAH.

THERE, THERE'S ONE OR TWO THAT IS, UH, TWO STORY FOR SURE.

BUT, UH, YEAH, A LOT OF THEM ARE SINGLE STORY.

I MEAN, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE COGNIZANT OF AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, OF THOSE NEIGHBORS.

AND IF YOU HAVE A TWO STORY LOOKING DOWN INTO A, A ONE STORY HOME, THE, THE DESIGN OF THAT, UH, LOOKING OVER THAT, THE ELEVATION CHAIN, IT'S HARD TO TELL ON THIS, BUT THERE'S ABOUT A FOUR FOOT RETAINING WALL UNDER THAT BRICK WALL THAT RUNS ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE.

MM-HMM .

SO THOSE, THOSE HOUSES ARE ALREADY CONSIDERABLY LOWER THAN THIS PROPERTY IS.

OKAY.

IT, IT WAS A ENGINEERING DESIGN FUNCTION.

OKAY.

SO THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

YEAH, I THINK THIS ONE CAN SHOW MAN GESTURES, OTHER WATCHES.

SEE THIS ONE, THIS ONE SHOWS UP.

YEAH.

YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE DROPPED.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I HAVE NOT NOTED THAT.

ANY OTHER, YEAH.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? UH, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PUTTING A MIX OF PRODUCT IN THERE.

17 50, 17 50, AND 2300.

I I LIKE THAT.

YES, SIR.

UH, AND I'M GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTRARIAN HERE.

I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF THE HOUSES BEING THREE FEET APART.

UH, WHAT'S GONNA BECOME OF THAT THREE FOOT BY 45 FOOT ALLEY? IS IT JUST GONNA BECOME STORAGE OR IS IT GOING TO COLLECT TRASH? AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

AND YOU DO REALIZE THE BEDROOMS AND STUFF WILL BE LOOKING OUT ONTO A WALL FROM

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HERE TO THE EDGE OF THE DEUS HERE.

AND, UH, ANOTHER THING IN TERMS OF ELEVATION, I'M BEING 22 FEET WIDE INSTEAD OF 25 FEET WIDE.

THAT MAKES THE GARAGE MUCH MORE PROMINENT IN THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

AND, UH, EVERYTHING'S UP AND DOWN.

YOU COULD STILL DO THE TOWN HOMES AND ADD THE THIRD STORY TO THOSE AND GET THE 2300 SQUARE FEET EASILY.

TEXT SCOTT ROBE CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS LOOKS AROUND TWO MEN AT PODIUM JUST TO COME BACK TO THAT ONE.

SO THAT WILL BE AN EASEMENT.

THE 3, 3, 3 FOOT, UH, BY 45 OR 75, THAT WOULD BE AN EASEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO LOT.

SO THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA, THAT THREE FOOT IS MAINTAINED BY THE HOA WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOAI THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE, BECAUSE THAT IS AN EASEMENT IF, UH, SO ONE SIDE TECHNICALLY IS ZERO AND THE OTHER SIDE IS THREE FOOT.

SO THE THEON HOMEOWNER, IF NEEDS TO DO KIND SOME KIND OF A REPAIR ON HIS WALL ON THE SIDE, THEN.

RIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, SO THAT'S KIND OF, UM, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THAT KIND OF AVOIDS ANYBODY TO, YOU KNOW, UM, MISUSE THAT THREE FOOT THAT WOULD BE KEPT CLEAN.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THERE WILL BE NO GATE, NO NOTHING FROM THE HOUSE TO BETWEEN HOUSES OR ANYTHING? YEAH, I BELIEVE SO.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK ON THAT, BUT YEAH.

AS, AS IT'S GONNA BE AN, AN EASEMENT.

AND SO THE CONCEPT WAS, UH, TO DETACH THEM.

SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SINGLE LIST, LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY, JUST, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE WINDOWS NOW ON THIS ONE SIDE.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE WINDOWS IN THEIR BEDROOMS AND ALL, IT BRINGS THEM MORE LIGHT AND ENHANCE THE LIVING SPACE.

UM, SO WE, THAT WAS THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF DETACHING THEM AND THEN DOING THE THREE FLOOR, IF I CAN INJECT IT, ZERO LOT LINE PRODUCT.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE A COMMON WALL.

YOU KNOW, THE ONLY, THE ONLY UNITS THAT WOULD HAVE ANY SIDE WINDOWS WOULD BE END UNITS ON A TOWNHOUSE CONCEPT.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT.

AND WHERE THIS ONE WITH, UH, THERE ARE NO ATTACHED WALLS.

YOU ACTUALLY HAVE, I KNOW IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE THREE FEET.

IT GOES THREE FEET OF HOUSE, THREE FEET OF HOUSE, JUST STAIRS STEPS ALL THE WAY DOWN WHERE THESE, THESE HOUSES ARE NOT ATTACHED.

AND, UH, JUST, IT, IT DOES ALLOW FOR A LITTLE MORE WINDOW.

YOU CAN ADD MORE WINDOWS IN DIFFERENT ROOMS, DIFFERENT LOCATION.

YEAH.

OH, I, I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'VE DESIGNED ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE ZERO LOT LINE SUBDIVISIONS AND JUST ABOUT AS MANY TOWN HOME, UH, PROPERTIES.

AND, AND HAVING THE SIDE WINDOWS DOES HELP, BUT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE THREE FOOT.

IT'LL COLLECT TRASH, UH, KIDS LAYING OUT THERE.

IT'S JUST, AND THE VISUAL EFFECT OF THE NARROW BUILDING BEING ALL GARAGE AND THE DESIGN IS PRETTY FLOW FLAT UP AND DOWN WITH A LITTLE, EH, MAYBE PIECE STICKING OUT.

SO I, I DO VISUALLY HAVE SOME CONCERNS, BUT I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PUTTING A MIXED PRODUCT IN THERE.

SO A LITTLE BIT TORN THERE.

THANK YOU.

TO ELIMINATE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE, NOT ELIMINATE, BUT TO OFFSET TEXT TERRY WYNN, WE CAN, UH, PLAN COMMISSION, CONSIDER SOME DECORATIVE ELEMENTS TO BE INCORPORATED WITHIN THE GARAGE, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE APPLICANT.

Y'ALL CAN, WELL, IDEALLY THE GARAGE WOULD BE SET BACK FIVE FEET ACCORDING TO OUR STANDARDS, BUT THAT'S, YEAH.

THIS PRODUCT DOES NOT REALLY, UM, COMPLY WITH OUR GDC REQUIREMENT.

NO, NOT FOR THE VISUAL IMPACT.

MM-HMM .

IF THERE'S SOMETHING DECORATIVE THERE, UM, THAT CAN OFFSET SOME OF THE IMPACT.

NOT YOU'RE DOING AN UPSCALE PRODUCT THERE.

OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO THINK OF HOW IT WOULD LOOK FROM ACROSS THE STREET.

IF WE UPGRADE THESE, WE'D PROBABLY WANT TO UPGRADE THE DOORS ON THE TOWN HOMES TOO.

SO IT'S A SIMILAR LOOK, WHETHER IT'S A CARRIAGE DOOR STYLE OR SOMETHING, OR A MIX OF SOME WITH WINDOWS, SOME WITHOUT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER.

BUT MY BASIC CONCERN IS A SEPARATION.

IT'S MORE LIKE A NEW YORK CITY DEPARTMENT'S LOOKING AT ONTO A BRICK WALL SCREEN SHOW RESIDENTIAL DESIGNS, UH, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH.

BUT I, I STILL THINK IT'LL GO THROUGH.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

JUST, JUST TO KEY ON YOUR, YOUR THOUGHT, A THREE FOOT EASEMENT MEANS IT DOESN'T BELONG TO EITHER HOMEOWNER.

RIGHT.

IT, IT BELONGS, UH, IT'S AN INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED LOT.

IT WOULD BE AN ACCESS EASEMENT FOR THE HOA TO MAINTAIN.

NOW IT COULD STILL GATE IT AS LONG AS THE GATE'S OPEN TO WHERE THE HOA COULD GET IN THERE AND MAINTAIN IT.

RIGHT.

TYPICAL ZERO LOT LINE HOME IS DONE IN ONE OF TWO WAYS.

THE HOUSE WAS EXACTLY ON THE ZERO, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE 10 FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH A THREE FOOT EASEMENT FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE HOUSE AT ZEROS.

OR IT WAS A THREE AND SEVEN.

YEAH.

MY, MY SUGGESTION OR MY THOUGHT WAS, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD THAT, UH, PUTTING IN YOUR HOA AGREEMENTS THAT PEOPLE CAN'T STORE THINGS THERE.

THEY CAN'T,

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I MEAN, THAT'S FOR WORKING ON YOUR HOME ONLY.

EXACTLY.

AND, UH, YEAH, THERE WILL, SOMEBODY DECIDES THEY WANT TO GROW PLANTS SOMEWHERE OR, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE PLACE TO DO IT.

YEAH.

THEY COULDN'T PLANT ANYTHING IN THERE.

IT'D NEVER GET SUNLIGHT TO GROW.

YEAH.

ANYWAY, THAT YOU JUST, YOU PROVOKED THAT THOUGHT.

AND PERHAPS YOU COULD INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR HOA THAT TO, TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE, THE HOA HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE NOBODY, NO ONE, NO ONE CAN STORE WHATEVER THEIR TOYS, LADDERS, UH, ET CETERA.

YOU KNOW, NOT A STORAGE AREA.

'CAUSE WE'RE RUNNING INTO THAT RIGHT NOW IN OUR CODE COMPLIANCE THAT WE'RE FIXING TO GO THROUGH.

UH, IN THE AREA I LIVE IN, I HAVE THREE NEIGHBORS IN THAT BACKYARDS, UH, SEVERELY AFFECT THE PRICE OF MY HOME BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THEIR BACKYARD.

SO, UH, AND WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE A VERY, UH, UH, THOUGHTFUL CITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

BUT LOOKING AHEAD WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT THAT FROM HAPPENING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DALTON.

THANK YOU.

WHERE WILL THE UTILITIES ENTER THE ZERO LOT LINE HOUSES ON THE BACK, ON THE SIDE? ELECTRIC GAS COMMUNICATIONS.

THE, THE ELECTRIC, UH, METER USUALLY IS IN THE FRONT.

UH, THE AC UNIT CAN GO IN THE BACK.

THEY'RE GONNA ENTER THROUGH THE FRONT.

THE UTILITIES WILL COME IN THROUGH THE FRONT, SO YEAH.

YEAH.

WE HAVE NO, NO GAS.

IT'S ALL ELECTRIC.

UM, SO YEAH, THE TWO MINUTE WOODEN PODIUM, THE METER, THE METER CAN BE IN THE FRONT AND THE, THE AC UNIT CAN BE THE BACK.

WELL I'M, I'M LOOKING AT YOUR, YOUR PERSPECTIVE RENDERINGS AND I DIDN'T SEE A PLACE FOR A METER TO BE, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

YEAH.

USUALLY IDENTIFIED MEN AT A TABLE FLAGGED BEHIND.

WE DON'T, YEAH.

WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T SHOW THE UTILITIES ON THE RENDERINGS, BUT THAT CAN BE ADDED.

UM, USUALLY IN TOWN HOMES, THE, THE METERS ARE IN THE FRONT.

THE PRESENTER TAKES A FOLDER THEN LOOKS AT IT SO WELL.

RIGHT.

BUT THESE ARE A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION.

YOU'RE SHOWING LESS WALL SPACE ON THE FRONT FOR A METER BASE TO BE PLACED BY UTILITY OR FOR A, IF THEY WERE TO COME IN WITH A FILES OR SOMETHING WHERE THERE HAS TO BE AN ENTRY POINT, THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONNECTING POINT THERE.

YEAH.

AND MOST OF THEM, LIKE AT MY HOME IS ON THE SIDE.

AGREE.

YEAH.

MOST OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS ON THE SIDE.

UH, THAT'S WHY, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF IT AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE EASEMENT THREE, FOUR EASEMENT, UM, TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE THIS KIND OF NEEDS OFFICIALS IDENTIFIED YOU.

YEAH.

FOR A METER BASE.

THAT'S A PRETTY TIGHT SPACE WITH TO BE WALKING THROUGH THERE WITH THE LAWNMOWER OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

BOULDER MAN AND GRAY SUIT SITS A DESK.

OKAY.

UM, STAFF MAY WANT TO CHECK WITH GPNL ABOUT THE REQUIRED SPACING AND MANEUVERING AROUND A PANEL.

I HAVE NO IDEA OR METER BASE.

SO WE, WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THOSE GO IN AND COMPLY WITH ALL OUR REGULATIONS.

IT'S TYPICALLY NOT DONE AT THE ZONING STAGE BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT PLAN.

BUT, UH, BEFORE ANY PERMIT IS RELEASED, UH, ENGINEERING WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THOSE ARE IN PLACE.

UH, SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS YOU DON'T WANT ANY METERS AT, ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

GARLAND EMBLEM MONITORS, SHOW DESIGNS.

ALRIGHT, I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER AND THEN CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE NEED TO.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, CHARLES VOIGHT.

SCOTT ROBERTS LOOKS UP THEN LOOKS DOWN AT PAPERS OH TWO B, I'M SORRY.

UH, IT COULD BE AN A OR B.

I'M A LOUSY READER.

OKAY, NEVERMIND.

WELL, WE, I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE.

TEXT SCOTT ROBERTS.

SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

AND LET ME GET YOU GOING THERE.

HERE WE GO.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING THREE MEN AT A DESK.

NAMES, TITLES FOR THEM ON SCREEN.

MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF NO .

WELL, I'LL JUST DECLARE THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED.

, COMMISSIONER AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL.

ALRIGHT, TO CLOSE, THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY AND I HAVEN'T TOUCHED THE CLEAR BUTTON.

WHO'S THIS TEXT? SCOTT ROBERTS CHAIRMAN.

HE SITS AT A DESK WITH MONITORS BEHIND HIM.

ALRIGHT, UH, PASSES.

UH, LET'S SEE.

WE'RE EIGHT TO ONE WITH COMMISSIONER HILLIARD,

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UH, IN OPPOSITION.

UM, NO, SEVEN TO ONE.

SIX TO ONE.

SORRY, I'LL GET THIS RIGHT.

NO, SEVEN TO ONE.

I'M DOWN THERE.

PASSES.

WE ARE NOW IN DISCUSSION MODE.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THEN COMMISSIONER ABEL, TEXT GARLAND.

THANK MR. CHAIR.

MR. CHAIR, IS THERE A WAY TO INCORPORATE, UM, THE CONDITIONS OR, OR STANDARDS THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING REGARDING, UM, THAT PARTICULAR, UM, THE CONCERN REGARDING THE, I MEAN, I I, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO OFFSET THE, THE TIGHT CONCERN OF THE THREE FOOT EASEMENT.

I THINK THE UTILITY QUESTION IS A FANTASTIC QUESTION.

UM, BUT IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY TO INCORPORATE THE ENHANCED STANDARDS THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING INTO THE REQUESTS? UH, WHICH ASPECT OF IT? THE METERS OR? NO, THE, THE DECORATIVE FUNCTIONS ON THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE OR THE, THE DOORS OR THE, LIKE ANY OF THE, THE ADDITIONAL, THOSE COULD BE CONDITIONS.

THOSE CONDITIONS COULD BE INCLUDED.

A DESIGN STANDARD OF SOME SORT.

THE DESIGN STANDARDS WERE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE, UM, OKAY.

NOPE.

YEAH, IT COULD EVEN BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS AN UPGRADED DOOR OFFICIALS LOOK AT THEIR LAPTOPS AS APPROVED BY STAFF AND THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT VERSIONS OUT THERE.

FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY VERY NARROW, WE CAN, UM, HAVE SOMETHING LIKE AT LEAST ONE DECORATIVE ELEMENT AND WHAT THAT ELEMENT COULD BE, WOULD BE UP TO STAFF TO DECIDE AT THAT POINT IF WE DON'T WANNA PINPOINT WHAT THAT IS AND WANT TO KEEP THE OPTIONS OPEN FOR DIVERSITY PURPOSES.

SO YEAH, THAT, THAT IS A VERY VALID CONDITION THAT WE CAN ADD WITH IN, WITHIN THE PD.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND THEY MAY EVEN WANNA USE A VARIETY OF DOORS AND GIVE A LITTLE IDENTITY.

MY HOME HAS THE WINDOWS ON THE DOORS OR MY HOME'S A CARRIAGE DOOR, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO BRING TO STAFF GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ABEL.

SO IN LOOKING AT THIS, UM, I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT GARLAND NEEDS.

OKAY.

UM, MOST OF OUR LOTS IN THIS CITY ARE LARGE.

UM, IT'S WHY I LOVE MY LOT, BUT I DON'T ALWAYS LOVE A LARGE LOT.

I HATE MOWING, BUT I HAVE A VERY LARGE LOT.

UM, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE THIS PRODUCT.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL MOVE HERE THAT SEEK THIS PRODUCT BECAUSE IT HAS A SMALLER LOT.

UM, I DO LIKE THE DISCUSSION ON MAYBE ONE ORNAMENTAL AND ONE CANOPY TREE.

UH, KNOWING WHAT I KNOW ABOUT TREES AND HOW THEY GROW 25 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU COULD HAVE TREES THAT ATE EVERY YARD HERE.

UM, BUT I LIKE THE PRODUCT.

I LIKE WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DOES NEED.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER DALTON.

WELL, THAT WAS QUICK.

UM, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ABEL.

THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT I THINK WILL SELL.

I APPRECIATE THEM COMING BACK WITH THE LARGER ZERO LOT LINE SIZES OVER AND ABOVE THE, WHAT WAS IT, 1700 I BELIEVE ON ALL OF THE OTHERS.

THIS GIVES US A LITTLE STEP UP PRODUCT IF SOMEONE WANTS IT, BUT IT GIVES 'EM THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING A MUCH SMALLER PRODUCT IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT WHEN THEY SHOW UP AT THIS LOCATION.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT, ALONG WITH THE, SOME TYPE OF DECORATIVE ORNAMENTATION, SOMETHING THAT BREAKS UP THE MONOTONY IN THE FRONT.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

SO I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS.

ANYTHING ELSE? THE CAMERA ZOOMS ON SCOTT ROBERTS, I'M PROBABLY GONNA VOTE FOR MOSTLY LIKE COMMISSIONER ABEL SAYS, I THINK THE OVERRIDING FACTORS WERE GETTING LARGER HOMES IN A, IN A VARIETY INSTEAD OF SOMETHING SIMPLE.

AND I JUST HOPE I'M PROVEN WRONG ABOUT MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE THREE FOOT AND I HOPE THEY GET THE HOA TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

UH, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA? YEP.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD, SO, UH, I'M ALSO, I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS IN FAVOR, JUST SAME REASONS, UH, COMMISSIONER DAWSON, ABEL MENTIONED.

UM, I GUESS JUST FOR, WE'RE ALL CLEAR.

SO WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE OUR, OUR A GOOD MOTION COMING UP.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE IN AGREEMENT OF ADDING AN ORNAMENTAL.

AND I WANT TO CLARIFY ON THE TREE PART, I BELIEVE THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE TWO LARGE CANOPY TREES THAT IS CURRENTLY SEEMS TO BE, UH, INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST.

ARE WE WANTING TO, UM, PUT, PUSH THAT BACK TO STAFF TO SEE IF THAT IS POSSIBILITY AND OR ONE CANOPY TREE REQUIREMENT PLUS OPTION FR WONDER WHICH CLARIFICATION? THERE'S ONLY ONE CANOPY TREE

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REQUIRED IN THE FRONT YARD.

YES.

THEY'RE STATING THAT THEY, SO TWO TOTAL REQUIRED FOR EACH LOT.

ONE TO BE LOCATED IN THE FRONT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE'RE GOOD NAMES.

SHOW TEXT.

TERRY V, DISTRICT FOUR.

SOMEBODY READY TO MAKE A MOTION? ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER JINK.

OH, WELL, COMMISSIONER ABEL CHIMED IN.

FIRST TEXT.

JERRY JONES, DISTRICT FIVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

DOESN'T MEAN I'LL LET YOU TALK, BUT , YOU'RE LIVE NOW.

PEOPLE HAVE WANTED TO SHUT ME UP FOR YEARS.

IT'S OKAY.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH ONE DECORATIVE DESIGN TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, GARAGE DOOR, WHATEVER, TEXT DEREK JONES, DISTRICT FIVE, ONE CANOPY TREE, ONE ORNAMENTAL TREE TO BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY.

WHAT AM I MISSING HERE? I, I THINK THAT'S IT.

UM, HOW ABOUT THE AMENITY? THAT ADDITIONAL AMENITY THAT STAFF THE PARK, THE DOG.

I WAS GONNA YEAH, ADD THAT IN.

WE OKAY.

THAT KIND OF FALLS UNDER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

I'LL, I'LL ALLOW THE DOG PARK.

YES.

WE LOVE OUR DOGS.

OKAY.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

SO AS I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE DOG PARK AND, UH, TREES.

AND NOW IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION JUST FOR THE ZERO LOT LINES ARE ALL HOMES FOR ONE CANOPY TREE AND ONE ORNAMENTAL TREE.

I THINK ALL HOMES BECAUSE OF THE TOWN HOMES BEING SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND, UH, WORK ON DECORATIVE, UH, DECORATION VIA GARAGE DOORS OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.

RIGHT.

SOME FRONT END DESIGN ELEMENT.

OKAY.

IS THAT AN UNDERSTANDABLE MOTION? CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS LOOKS AROUND AND SMILES AS HE WAITS FOR THE VOTE.

, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

SO, OKAY.

WE, WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND CONCURS MY SUMMARY OF THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION COUNCIL ROOM GARLAND ON WALL SCREEN SHOW CITY LOGO, PLEASE VOTE.

TEXT GEORGE CORNELIUS IS DISPLAYED ON THE TABLE IN FRONT OF EACH COMMISSIONER.

WE'RE WAITING COUNCIL MEETING ROOM MEMBERS AT TABLES.

GARLAND SIGN ON WALL.

IT'S LIKE WAITING ON A BAD INTERNET CONNECTION.

, WE NEED A LITTLE CIRCLE THING ON THE SCREEN.

? YEAH.

A BLUE SCREEN.

IS EVERYTHING OKAY OR SHOULD I GO FOR A SHOW OF HANDS? EVERYONE VOTED FAVOR, BUT I VOTE.

OH, OKAY THEN AMERICAN FLAG STANDS LEFT.

COMMISSIONER HILLIARD, WERE YOU VOTING FOR OR ABSTAINING OR THE CURVE DESK WITH MONITORS.

HAS PEOPLE SEATED? I HAD QUESTIONS REGARDING THE IMPACT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU GUYS, THE TWO STORY, TWO STORY THREE STORY ZERO.

YEAH, THE, UH, ONLY THE TWO STORIES BACK UP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

PLUS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS DROPPED DOWN.

SO TWO STORY.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

GREAT.

YEAH, I CAN ACCEPT.

OKAY, LEMME GO BY SHOW OF HANDS.

ALL IN FAVOR.

LET THE VOTE RECORD SHOW.

IT'S A UNANIMOUS DECISION.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE, UH, ITEM THAT I PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE GENTLEMAN FOR WHO WASN'T READY.

ITEM TWO B, ZONING CASE.

26 DASH 14.

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF OMEGA SHIPPING X INC.

REQUESTING APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR TRUCK BUS REPAIR, USE ON PROPERTY ZONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR TRUCK BUS REPAIR USE.

THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 24 30 LUER DRIVE.

CALLON STANDS AT A PODIUM TYPES ON LAPTOP.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

THIS IS KIAN, UH, UH, PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND.

CALLON LOOKS AT HIS LAPTOP.

UH, APPLICANT REQUESTS FOR SSUP FOR TRUCK OR BUS REPAIR USE IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTY.

TEXT REQUEST IS THE SLIDE TITLE.

UM, SO, UH, THE SITE, UH, HAS AN AREA ABOUT LIKE 2.61 ACRES.

AND THE CURRENTLY, UH, SITE HAS AN EXISTING SUP ALREADY FOR THE TRUCK OR BUS STORAGE

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USE, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN THE YEAR OF 2022.

UH, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN INCLUDED, UH, SOME SITE IMPROVEMENTS LIKE, UH, OFFICE BUILDING AND THE LANDSCAPING ISLAND IN, IN INSIDE THE PARKING AREAS ON THE RIGHT.

TEXT OWNER RE B BAB, BUT OTHER NEW RIGHT NOW THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A NEW SUP FOR A TRUCK OR BUS REPAIR USE WITH, WITH THE MAJOR, UH, WITH SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ONE, WHICH INCLUDES A NEW SERVICE BUILDING AS WELL.

UH, THE SITE IS LOCATED ALONG THE LUER DRIVE, UH, WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL AREA.

UH, SO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS DEVELOPED WITH AN HEAVY MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY ON THE EAST.

UH, IT HAS A CONTRACTOR OFFICE WITH A STORAGE YARD AND THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH ACROSS THE RAILROAD AND ON THE WEST IS, UH, BOTH OF THEM ARE LIKE UNDEVELOPED PARCELS, BUT ALL OF THEM ARE ZONED INDUSTRIAL.

THE PROPOSED TRUCK, UH, THE THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

TEXT, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE COMP PLAN.

UH, FOR THIS, UH, PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED FOR INDUSTRIAL CENTER USE.

THE CENTERS, UH, PROVIDE AREAS, UH, FOR TRADE AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY THAT MAY INCLUDE LIKE SEMI-TRUCK TRAFFIC, LOADING AREAS, OUTDOOR STORAGE AND ET CETERA.

MAP WITH PURPLE PLAN TEXT FIVE.

SO THESE ARE SOME SITE PICTURES.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE EXIST, UH, PRESENT CONDITIONS OF THE SITE.

IT'S JUST, IT'S BEEN JUST PAVED FOR NOW.

UH, YEP.

UH, THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, WHICH SHOWS, UH, THE PROPOSED 3,200, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, UH, MAINTENANCE OR SERVICE BUILDING ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THE CONCRETE PAVING, UH, 24 FEET, FIRE LINE TRUCK PARKING SLIPS, FENCING, LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE ER DRIVE AND THE LOCATION OF DUMPSTER.

UH, UH, UH, ALL THESE ARE THE NEW IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AS A, THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, UH, AS A PART OF THIS SUP REQUEST.

AND THE PLAN ALSO SHOWS A NEW, UH, ACCESS POINT, UH, FROM THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, WHEREAS THEY ARE TRYING TO, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CLOSE THE EXISTING ACCESS POINT, WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER RIGHT NOW.

AND THE CONCEPT PLAN ALSO SHOWS THAT 33 ARE TRUCK PARKING SLIPS AND 10 PARKING SPACES FOR THE VEHICLES.

AND THESE PARKING SPACES, 10 PARKING SPACES, UH, MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE GDC.

AND HERE ARE THE FLOOR PLANS, UH, UH, PROVIDED.

UH, AS A PART OF THIS SUP, UH, IT SHOWS THE 3,200 SQUARE FEET OF FIRST FLOOR AND APPROXIMATELY 640 SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, UM, MEZZANINE AREA INSIDE THE BUILDING.

THE FIRST FLOOR INCLUDES THREE SERVICE SPACE, OFFICE AREAS, RESTROOMS AND ENTRY PORCH.

AND THE MEZZANINE AREA INCLUDES STORAGE, BREAK ROOM FUNCTIONS.

UH, THE BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET IN HEIGHT AND THE PROPOSED OPERATION FOR THIS BUILDING CONSISTS OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION INSPECTION, UH, STATE VEHICLE INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE WORK FOR COMPANY OWNED VEHICLES ONLY.

AND HERE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

SO THE PROPOSED BUILDING, UH, WILL BE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS.

WE'LL INCORPORATE SIX ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS AND THESE ELEMENTS WILL BE REVIEWED DURING THE BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS AFTER THE SU UH, APPROVAL OF THIS SUP.

AND ALSO, UM, OVERHEAD OR ROLL UP SERVICE PAY DOORS MAY NOT FACE PUBLIC STREETS, UH, ACCORDING TO THE TWO POINT SECTION 2.52 A OF GDC UNLESS IT, IT THEY CAN BE ALLOWED BY THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE REQUEST.

AND THE APPLICANT IN INTENDS TO SUBMIT AN, UH, AC REQUEST TO ALLOW THE SERVICE PAY TO FACE THE KER DRIVE.

AND, UH, AS A PART OF THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MURAL ON THE STREET FACING ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSED SERVICE BUILDING AND THE MURAL IS REQUIRED TO COVER A MINIMUM OF 25% OF THAT ELEVATION.

AND THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STRAPS AND ORNAMENTAL PLANTINGS WITHIN AND ALONG THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO HELP SCREEN THAT TRUCK PARKING AREA AND ALSO THE SERVICE BUILDING AND ALSO THE PARKING SPACES.

TEXT SUP

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IS THE SLIDE TITLE.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THIS SUP IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING TRUCK OR BUS STORAGE USE, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AND ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE TRUCK OR BUS REPAIR USE IS NOT INTENDED TO CONSTRAINT A ABANDON OF EXISTING SUP.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTED 20 YEAR TIME PERIOD.

THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDE RECOMMENDS EIGHT TO FIVE YEARS FOR REQUESTS INVOLVING PARTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OR SITE IMPROVEMENTS TO AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS SUP AND ALSO THE ASSOCIATED CONCEPT PLAN WITH A 15 YEAR TIME PERIOD WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, WHICH ARE, UH, UH, THIS USE SHALL OPERATE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXISTING TRUCK OR BUS STORAGE USE.

OUTDOOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES SHALL BE PROHIBITED.

UH, ADDITIONAL STRAPS OR ORNAMENTED PLAN THINGS SHALL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND THE MURAL ON THE STREET FACING ELEVATION OF SERVICE BUILDING.

AND THE H OF OPERATION SHALL BE LIMITED TO, UH, MONDAY TO FRIDAY FROM 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM AND SATURDAY FROM EIGHT TO TWO AND THE BUSINESS SHALL BE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS.

UH, WE HAVE MAILED, UH, ABOUT 37, UH, NOTICES TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE RECEIVED, UH, NO RESPONSES, UH, WITH THIS.

I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS TEXT DEAR ROBERTS CHAIRMAN, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

SIR.

UM, FIRST QUESTION I'VE GOT FOR YOU IS, UM, RE REGARDING THE HOURS OF OPERATION, DID THE APPLICANT PROPOSE THOSE HOURS WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S, ARE STAFF RECOMMENDED HOURS? UH, IT WAS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT ITSELF.

OKAY.

WAS THE, WAS THE MURAL ALSO PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT? UH, THAT WA THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF AS A PART OF THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE REQUEST.

OKAY.

THE, HOW, UM, DOES STAFF HAVE ANY CONCERNS? UH, THIS IS A TRICKY QUESTION.

DOES STAFF HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE CONTENT OF THE MURAL? CAN THE MURAL BE ANYTHING? SO THE MURAL IS DEFINED BY THE GDC, SO WE'LL HAVE TO JUST COMPLY WITH THAT DEFINITION.

.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M FEELING THE, THE HOT FIRE GAZE FROM YOU.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE FEELING THE FIRST AMENDMENT? ARE YOU MEETING IN GARLAND ROOM? THE CITY ATTORNEY OVER THERE? UH, OKAY.

BUT WE HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION WITHIN THE GTCS TO THE MURAL.

RIGHT.

, WE, WE WILL NOT GET INTO SUPREME COURT DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW.

WE WILL NOT MAKE IT.

UH, I I WILL NOT.

NO.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, AND, AND, AND FANTASTIC JOB STAFF ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THEM.

I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, UH, UNDERSTAND A COUPLE OF 'EM.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH.

THANKS, SIR.

UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE S THE EXISTING SUP FOUR NAMES AND DISTRICT SEAN, AND WHEN DOES THAT SUP END? UH, IT'S GONNA END, UH, THE EXISTING SUP? YES.

UH, I DID ASK THAT.

UH, IT'S GOT 16 YEARS LEFT.

IT WAS A 20 YEAR SUP STARTED IN 2022.

IT WAS PROBABLY IN 20, 20, 42 OFFICIALS SEATED SCREEN SHOWS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND, UH, ARE THE USES OF THIS, UH, NEW FACILITY JUST FOR THE PROPERTY ONLY? YES.

ONLY THE PROPERTY OWNED VEHICLE.

SO ALL THE VEHICLE, THE STORAGE VEHICLE PLACE ARE FOR OMEGA? YES, SIR.

ONLY.

OKAY.

I DON'T THINK STORAGE.

I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK THAT GETS IT.

THANK YOU.

TEXT SCOTT ROBERTS, CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU.

UM, CHIMING IN WITH HIM.

I, I THINK IT'D BE APPROPRIATE FOR US AND MAY BE HELPFUL TO THE APPLICANT IF WE APPROVE THIS TO HAVE THIS SUP RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH THE EXISTING SUP.

UH, SO THEY BOTH END AT THE SAME TIME.

AND I HAD A QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE MURAL, ARE YOU, WOULD, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO PAINT OVER ON THE GARAGE DOORS INTO, SO, WELL, IT HA IT'LL BE 25% OF THE ENTIRE MM-HMM .

ELEVATION, WHICH INCLUDES THE GARAGE DOORS.

YEAH.

AND SOME, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT A LOT OF THAT'LL GET COVERED BY PLANTING.

SO IT MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THE SOUTH ELEVATION AS YOU'RE PULLING UP LAWN OCCUR.

IT WOULD BE A BLANK ONE AND MAYBE ALLOWING A MURAL TO WRAP AROUND THE CORNER SOFT AND THAT SIDE AND EVEN COME DOWN.

SO THOSE ARE MAYBE SOME THINGS FOR STAFF TO CONSIDER IN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT.

YEAH.

SEE, SEE THE SOUTH SIDE HERE IS ALL BLANK AND WRAP IT AROUND.

AND THE OTHER END IS GOOD.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

I WANTED TO PIGGYBACK ON, ON YOUR QUESTION.

SO THE, THE CEO THAT THEY HAVE, OR THE SAP, EXCUSE

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ME, THAT THEY HAVE NOW HAS AN EXPIRATION THAT IS 16 YEARS.

16 YEARS FROM NOW? YEAH.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS 15.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION ON THAT IS ACTUALLY REGARDING THE CEO, UH, THE OFFICER IS SAYING ON THE CEO THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO LOSE ONE OF THE USES.

UH, AND I'M, I'M, NO, UH, SO THERE IS A, UM, THERE IS A CLAUSE THAT WITHIN SUVS IN THE RECENT SUVS, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A, THERE'S A CLAUSE THAT SAYS IF SOMEONE GETS AN SUP OBTAINS, AN SUP AND THEN APPLIES FOR ANOTHER SU, ANOTHER SUP FOR ANOTHER USE FOR THE SAME PROPERTY, THEY MAY LOSE THE PREVIOUS SUP.

SO IT, THIS ISN'T, THIS IS CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY TO THE ALREADY EXISTING USE.

SO IT'S, WE'RE NOT REALLY CONSIDERING THAT IT IS TRIGGERING THE ABANDONMENT OF THE PREVIOUS SUP.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT, THAT CONDITION IS INCLUDED.

UM, TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY ABANDONING THE PREVIOUS SUP TEXT GARLAND WITH A GEAR LIKE EMBLEM.

THANK YOU.

DID IT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I CAN TRY AGAIN.

YEAH.

IT SOUNDS MESSY THOUGH, BUT YES, YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

SO BOTH SUVS WILL BE VALID ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE BOTH USES SEPARATELY REQUIRE AN SUP, BUT IN TERMS OF FUNCTIONALITY, THEY ARE THIS USE, THE REPAIR USE CAN BE CONSIDERED ACCESSORY TO THE OTHER USE.

BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S DEFINED.

YEAH, I I I UNDERSTAND.

IT JUST SOUNDS MESSY.

YEAH, IT IS.

FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS HEARING, THEY'RE NOT LEGALLY CONNECTED.

WOULD THAT PROBABLY BE THE TERM TEXT? PATRICK A BRILL? THEY'RE ON THE SAME SITE.

OKAY.

SO IT IS, IN MY OPINION, WE CAN CONSIDER THE FUNCTIONALITY, BUT NO, WE ARE ONLY CONSIDERING THE REPAIR USED TODAY.

UM, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

NOW, THE EXISTING SUP HAD SOME CONDITIONS WITH IT.

HAVE ALL THOSE BEEN MET FOUR YEARS INTO IT? UH, NOT REALLY BECAUSE THE APPLICANT, THEY WERE STILL, UH, GOING THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS UNTIL LIKE, UH, MARCH OR APRIL, LIKE VERY RECENTLY, BEFORE THEY START THE CONSTRUCTION OR MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, THEY HAD THIS PROPOSAL TO GET A MAINTENANCE FACILITY TO BE PART OF THAT MAN.

AND SUIT SPEAKS A PODIUM.

YEAH.

SO WE COULD PROBABLY ADD A CONDITION THAT, UH, BEFORE THEY GET A CO IN A NEW BUILDING, THAT THEY MUST COMPLY WITH ALL CONDITIONS FROM BOTH SUVS OR RISK BOTH.

WELL, I JUST ADDED THE LAST TWO WORDS THEN.

WELL, THAT'S A GIVEN ANYWAY.

THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

SUP AND THIS SUP.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHTY.

AND COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, MAYBE I DIDN'T, MAYBE I DIDN'T HEAR EVERYTHING.

REFRESH ME.

THE EXISTING SUP, WHICH WAS APPROVED FOUR YEARS AGO, THEY HAVE NOT MET THE CONDITIONS OF THAT SUP? NOT YET.

THEY WERE WORKING, BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.

OH, ARE THEY? RIGHT? YES.

BUT HOW WOULD GOING THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS STOP THEM FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES OF THE SUP? BECAUSE IT'S BEFORE THEY GET A CO AND ACTUALLY OCCUPY THE BUILDING, THAT'S WHEN THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS.

OKAY.

SO THEY RE RECEIVED AN SUP TO STORE VEHICLES WITH CONDITIONS, AND THEY HAVEN'T FULFILLED THOSE CONDITIONS BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR CO OH, THEY DON'T HAVE A CO YET? NOT YET.

SO THEY HAVE TO FINISH THEIR BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS TO GET A CO AND START THE CONSTRUCTION AND GO THROUGH THE INSPECTIONS, TEXT PLAN COMMISSION, UH, THROUGH THE BUILDING.

AND THAT'S WHEN THEY SHOW THE CO.

SO WHEN DID THEY START THE, THE, THE PROCESS FOR THE BUILDING? UH, I'M NOT SURE.

WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT ALL THAT AND CLEAR IT UP AT THAT STAGE.

OKAY.

GROUP A TABLE DIAGRAMS ON SCREENS.

I, I KNOW COUNSEL HAS DISCUSSED THIS SAME SUBJECT.

OKAY.

SEE NO THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

CHARLES VOID.

THE MAN PICKS UP A PIECE OF PAPER AND THEN PLACES IT BACK DOWN.

LOOKING AT PAPERS ON THE TABLE.

ONLY CARD.

I HAVE CHARLES VOID, 1200 WEST STATE STREET, GARLAND, TEXAS.

SHE MON VOID CONSULTANT.

UM, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY.

CHARLES BOY GESTURES, THEN SMILES AND RAISE HIS HANDS.

I DO HAVE A LOT OF OPINION ON THE NECK ON THE LAST ONE THOUGH.

UH, JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND EVERYTHING.

IT IS, UH, AN SUP THAT WAS ORIGINALLY FOR THE, UH, UH, STORAGE OF, UH, MOTOR VEHICLES.

I MEAN THE, UH, TRAILERS AND EVERYTHING, AND THE, UH, 18 WHEELERS.

AND

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NOW WE'RE COMING BACK FOR THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY, WHICH CHANGED THE CONCEPT INTO, FROM AN OFFICE INTO A MAINTENANCE FACILITY AND OFFICE FACILITY.

IT'S COMBINED NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE COME BACK IN AND, AND, AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A CO AND WE'RE NOT PROCEEDING WITH THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THIS TIME.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM.

THANK YOU.

LET'S SEE IF ANY POP UP HERE.

CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS LOOKS DOWN.

COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH FOR COMMISSIONER'S NAMES.

I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO MY QUESTION THAT WE ENDED WITH.

YES, SIR.

YOU RECEIVED A, UH, AN SUP FOUR YEARS AGO.

THAT'S CORRECT.

HAVE YOU BEEN OPERATING THIS BUSINESS THERE FOR FOUR YEARS? NOT THAT, THAT'S NOT MY, NO SIR.

NO, BECAUSE THE BUSINESS AT THE, UH, CIVIL ENGINEERING HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED YET.

I THINK THEY'VE HAD SOME TRAILERS ON THERE, WHICH THEY'VE ASKED TO BE REMOVED, YOU KNOW.

SO IT HASN'T BEEN IN OPERATION ON THAT SITE YET? NO.

OKAY.

SO IT'S A NON-OPERATING OMEGA'S NOT OPERATING OFF OF THIS PROPERTY OFF, OFF, OFF THIS PROPERTY.

YES.

OKAY.

SO THIS DIDN'T, THIS BARE LAND BEEN SITTING THERE FOR FOUR YEARS.

IT'S BARE LAND THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR FOUR YEARS.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

WE DIDN'T GET INVOLVED UNTIL ABOUT, UH, NINE MONTHS AGO THIS PROJECT.

OKAY.

WHEN THEY CHANGED THE CONCEPT FROM A, A, A MAINTENANCE, A FACILITY JUST TO, UH, FOR THEIR TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING, TO A COMBINATION OF REPAIR AND, AND THAT FACILITY, LAPTOP, MOUSE ON PODIUM.

SO SITTING THERE FOR A COUPLE YEARS? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

FOR FOUR YEARS, I GUESS.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE A CO SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE, WELL, THEY CAN'T, UH, THEY DON'T 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A BUILDING UP OR THEY HAVEN'T GOT A CO RIGHT.

UH, THEY HAVEN'T GOT A BUILDING PERMIT YET.

OKAY.

THE BUILDING PART OF IT, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR A SMALL COUPLE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AT MAX.

UH, THAT'S CORRECT.

YES.

TO GO WITH IT? YEAH.

YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? I SEE NONE.

COMMISSIONERS.

DISCUSSION.

MOTION COMMISSIONER JENKINS CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN FOR THE 15 YEAR SUP AS WELL.

UM, I, UH, I GUESS THE QUESTION I'VE GOT BEFORE THE MOTION CONCLUDES IS IF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES THE WRAPAROUND, UM, OF THE MURAL IN THE BUILDING AS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE CHAIR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THEN THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE PER CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE HER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, WITH AN SUP.

OKAY.

AND THAT WAS FOR 15 YEARS? YEAH.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ACT.

COMMISSIONER ABEL? I WOULD, I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD MAKE IT CONCURRENT TO THE THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, MAKER THE MOTION IS AMENDING HIS MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT INCLUDES THE SIX ITEMS LISTED FOR A PERIOD TO RUN, CONCURRENT WITH THEIR EXISTING SUP, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 16 YEARS.

AND I SEE THIS MAKER AND THE SECOND CONCUR WITH THE SUMMATION.

ANY DISCUSSION? TEXT SCOTT ROBERTS CHAIRMAN, PLEASE VOTE.

CHAIRMAN ROBERTS GESTURES WITH HIS RIGHT HAND THEN LOOKS TO HIS RIGHT WITH A SERIOUS EXPRESSION.

HE THEN BRIEFLY LOOKS DOWN, NOT PASSES, SIR.

PARDON? THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

IT'S JUST NOT SHOWING UP IN THE SCREEN.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ITEM IS ITEM TWO CZ 26 DASH 18.

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF LYLE ALLEN AND ASSOCIATES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT TWO, UH, DISTRICT 82 DASH 22.

PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, RETAIL DISTRICT TO DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR CR USES AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1 0 1 5 WEST CENTERVILLE EVENING.

THANK CHAIRMAN.

YEAH.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, OR GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

STUART STARRY PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AN AMENDMENT, UH, TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD DISTRICT 82 DASH 20 TO CHANGE THE UNDERLYING BASE ZONING FROM NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, NO DISTRICT TO COMMUNITY, RETAIL DISTRICT, ALLOWING FOR CR USES ALONG WITH A CONCEPT PLAN FOR PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

MAP WITH STAR CASE INFORMATION.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 10 15 WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD, WHICH IS OF APPROXIMATELY

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1.3 ACRES AND IS WITHIN DISTRICT FIVE.

IT IS AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL SITE AND FRONTAGE WITH FRONTAGE ON WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD AND MARKETPLACE DRIVE.

NO NEW CONSTRUCTION OR EXPANSION IS PROPOSED.

ZONING MAP Z 26 18.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL IN NATURE TO THE NORTH ACROSS MARKETPLACE.

DRIVE IS A MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

ZONED PD 83 DASH 66 WITH A CR BASED ZONING TO THE EAST, SORRY TO THE EAST IS AN EXISTING DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT.

ZONED PD.

80 DASH 43 TO THE SOUTH ACROSS WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD ARE MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS WITH CR BASED SONY, INCLUDING RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS.

TO THE WEST ARE A HEALTH AND FITNESS GYM AND A FULL SERVICE HOTEL, BOTH WITH A CR BASED SONY.

OVERALL, THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, TEXT COMMUNITY CENTERS.

THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS COMMUNITY CENTER DESIGNATION AND THE VISION FOR THE CENTERVILLE MARKETPLACE.

CATALYST AREA, WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE A MAJOR ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE CITY THROUGH TARGETED REINVESTMENT, REINVESTMENT AND COMMERCIAL REVIT REVITALIZATION.

CHANGING THE UNDERLYING ZONING FROM NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE TO COMMUNITY RETAIL BETTER ALIGNS THE PROPERTY WITH THAT VISION AND ESTABLISHES COMMERCIAL CHARACTER OF THE, UH, AND ESTABLISHES A COMMERCIAL CHARACTER OF THE, UH, FOR THE CORRIDOR.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE TAKEN FROM WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD AND MARKETPLACE DRIVE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONTAINS AN EXISTING MULTI-TENANT OFFICE BUILDING AND IS CURRENTLY DEFICIENT IN LANDSCAPING ALONG BOTH STREET FRONTAGES AND WITHIN THE PARKING LOT.

THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S CONCEPT PLAN.

THOUGH NO EXPANSIONS OR CHANGES TO THE SITE LAYOUT ARE BEING PROPOSED, THE APPLICANT DOES PROPOSE TO BRING THE SITE UP TO CODE WITH LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.

THESE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE ADDITIONAL CANOPY TREES ALONG BOTH STREET FRONTAGES AND THROUGHOUT THE PARKING LOT.

REPLACEMENT OF GRAVEL LANDSCAPE AREAS WITH LIVE PLANT MATERIAL AND INSTALLATION OF CONTINUOUS SHRUB, UH, ROWS OF SHRUBS ALONG WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD AND MARKETPLACE DRIVE.

NO DEVIATIONS FROM THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ARE REQUESTED.

THE APPLICANT'S PD AMENDMENT REQUEST INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS TO ALLOW ALL USES PERMITTED UNDER THE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN THREE CANOPY TREES AND 21 SHRUBS ALONG WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD, WHERE ONLY ONE CANOPY TREE CURRENTLY EXISTS.

SEVEN CANOPY TREES AND 49 SHRUBS ALONG MARKETPLACE DRIVE, WHERE ONLY TWO CANOPY TREES CURRENTLY EXIST.

AND 10 ADDITIONAL CANOPY TREES DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE PARKING LOT, WHERE ONLY FIVE CANOPY TREES CURRENTLY EXIST.

ADDITIONALLY, ALL REQUIRED LANDSCAPE ISLANDS AND BUFFERS WILL BE PLANTED WITH LIVING PLANT MATERIAL, ELIMINATING THE EXISTING GRAVEL AND LANDSCAPING, I'M SORRY, THE EXISTING GRAVEL LANDSCAPING AND BRINGING THE SITE INTO THE COMPLIANCE WITH CURRENT STANDARDS.

TEXT RECOMMENDATIONS.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE VISION FOR THE CENTERVILLE MARKETPLACE.

CATALYST AREA REZONING THE PROPERTY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE TO COMMUNITY RETAIL BETTER ALIGNS THE SITE WITH THAT VISION AND THE ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL CHARACTER OF THE CORRIDOR.

ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE WITH CURRENT LANDSCAPING STANDARDS AND NO DEVIATIONS FROM THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ARE REQUESTED.

AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PD AMENDMENT REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

TWO.

BULLETED STAFF RECOMMENDATION CONDITIONS THAT CONVENIENCE STORE SELF-SERVICE, LAUNDROMAT AND FURNITURE.

HOUSEHOLD FURNISHING AND APPLIANCE SALES SLASH RENTAL USES SHALL BE PROHIBITED ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THE SECOND CONDITION IS FOR ANY GROCERY SLASH SUPERMARKET USE, UH, SHALL BE LIMITED TO A NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE ESTABLISHMENT NOT EXCEEDING 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND SHALL OTHERWISE CONFORM TO THE DEFINITION CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

TEXT RESPONSE LETTERS.

A TABLE SHOWN.

WE SENT OUT A TOTAL OF 81 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND RECEIVED NO RESPONSE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST.

I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

TEXT.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS A MAN, A PODIUM, BALD MAN.

A DESK TEXT ROBERTS.

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SEE NO QUESTIONS.

UM, DO YOU KNOW IF THE APPLICANT'S, UH, AGREEABLE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, HAVE THEY VOICED ANY OPINION? I I, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT, UH, RESPOND TO THAT.

ALL RIGHTY.

DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY'D SAY ANYTHING TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE ARE, YEAH, .

OKAY.

WELL COME UP.

DO YOU CARE TO SPEAK? SURE.

OKAY.

UH, NAME AND ADDRESS IN THEM, IN THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

AND FILL ONE OF THESE OUT LATER.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, MY NAME IS HERBERT GEARS.

I'M AT, UH, 4 5 2 6 WILD BRIAR DRIVE IN IRVING.

AND WE'RE OKAY.

STAFF'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB WORKING WITH US.

WE'RE NOT REALLY MAKING A LOT OF CHANGES.

OTHER, WE WANT TO UPGRADE THE LOOK AND PUT IN A LOT MORE LANDSCAPING, UH, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE HAVING ANY OTHER CHANGES.

AND BY THE WAY, I JUST WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I KNOW THIS DOESN'T MATTER, BUT I WAS BLESSED AS A MUCH YOUNGER MAN ABOUT 35 YEARS AGO TO SERVE ON THE IRVING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND IT'S WONDERFUL NOW AS AN OLDER GUY TO GET TO SEE THE DECISIONS WE MADE AND WHAT IMPACT THEY HAD AND THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THAT.

SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT, THE CHANGE.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NOTHING.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONERS.

MOTION.

COMMISSIONER JONES, UH, LET ME GET YOU THERE.

YOU'RE LIVE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED AND RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

ALL RIGHTY.

AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JONES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES.

COMMISSIONER DALTON.

NO DISCUSSION.

TRY AND MAKE MOTION.

OH, EH, LITTLE SLOW.

OLDER FOLKS ARE A LITTLE SLOWER.

YOU KNOW.

I KNOW.

TEXT TERRY HUARD, DISTRICT THREE.

ANY DISCUSSION? NO.

OKAY.

LET ME RESTATE THE MOTION.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JONES.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS LAID OUT.

CHAIRMAN ROBERTS LOOKS DOWN, THEN GESTURES.

SEE.

NO DISCUSSION, PLEASE VOTE.

TEXT SCOTT ROBERTS CHAIRMAN.

A DIGITAL OVERLAY APPEARS SHOWING VOTING RESULTS.

TEXT MOTION BY J JONES.

SECONDED BY JULIUS JENKINS.

EIGHT.

VOTED YES.

ONE ABSTAINED.

THE SUMMARY SHOWS YES.

EIGHT, NO.

ZERO ABSTAIN.

ONE.

AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

GOOD.

ALL RIGHTY.

THE VOTING RESULTS OVERLAY DISAPPEARS.

NEXT ITEM.

ITEM 2D, ZONING CASE.

26 DASH 20.

NO.

YEAH.

26 DASH 20 HOLD OF PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF CITY OF GARLAND REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

84 DASH 96.

SITE IS LOCATED AT 1 4 7 1 HALFORD ROAD.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

I'M RYAN MULKEY.

I'M THE LONG RANGE PLANNING COMMISSIONER WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

FIRST ITEM I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING IS A CITY INITIATED REZONING REQUEST, UH, CASE NUMBER Z 26 DASH 20.

UH, REQUEST TO CHANGE FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO PD 84 DASH 96 SLIDE REQUEST THEN CASE INFORMATION.

ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS SLIDE, WE CAN SEE, UH, WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN CITY LIMITS.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S THERE ON HOLFORD ROAD, UH, KIND OF SOUTHWEST OF THE TOLLWAY.

UM, EXACT ADDRESS IS 1471 HOLFORD ROAD.

UM, THE CITY IS THE OWNER AND THE APPLICANT.

UM, FOR THIS PROPERTY, IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF AN ACRE, AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AT AG ZONING MAP Z 26 20.

UM, HERE IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, IT'S THIS LITTLE TRIANGULAR PIECE HERE IN THE CENTER OF THE SLIDE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE IT ABUTS, UH, PD 84 DASH 96 TO THE NORTH.

UM, TO THE WEST IS ANOTHER PD THAT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A MULTIFAMILY USE.

UM, MOST OF THE PROPERTY AROUND HERE.

UH, ALSO ZONED AG CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP.

UM, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP KIND OF HAS A SPLIT DESIGNATION.

UM, FOR THIS PROPERTY.

MOST OF IT IS THIS BUSINESS CENTER, UH, FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE FOR, UM, PURELY COMMERCIAL USES.

UM, THERE'S A LITTLE SLIVER THAT'S ALSO ZONED, UM, URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, THAT'S MORE FOR, UH, HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LIKE MULTIFAMILY.

UM, THAT'S MORE IN LINE, UM, WITH THE ULTIMATE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.

UM, IT'S PROPOSED TO BE SORT OF, UM, ADDED TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, UM, AND DEVELOPED AS MULTIFAMILY.

SO SOME SITE PHOTOS, UM, THESE FIRST TWO ARE OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

THIS IS ON, UM, HOFER ROAD LOOKING, UH, TO THE WEST AND ALSO TO THE NORTH TEXT

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SITE PHOTOS.

AND THEN, UM, SOME VIEWS OF ADJACENT PROPERTY.

ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, TODAY THERE'S NOT MUCH TO SEE, UM, VIEW TO THE NORTH AND THEN ALSO TO THE SOUTHEAST ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET.

NEW SLIDE CONSIDERATION.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONSIDERATION, UM, FROM STAFF WITH THIS ONE.

UM, IN CASE WE ALL HAVEN'T HEARD IT ENOUGH, UH, SB EIGHT 40 ALLOWS, UH, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON ANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL OFFICE WAREHOUSE, RETAIL OR A MIX OF USES.

UM, PD 84 DASH 96, IT IS A PD, BUT UM, FOR THE MOST PART DEFAULTS TO THE BASE ZONING OF A COMMERCIAL OFFICE DISTRICT.

UM, AND PERMITS ALL USES PERMITTED WITHIN THAT BASE OFFICE DISTRICT.

UM, SO UNDER SB 40 AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER, UH, PD 84 DASH 96.

UM, SO THIS REQUEST IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

IT'S JUST TO REZONE THE SITE TO ALIGN WITH THE ZONING OF THAT ADJACENT PD.

UM, SO THAT LARGER AREA CAN BE COHESIVELY DEVELOPED.

UM, AND IF THE REQUEST IS APPROVED, UH, ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET ALL THE STANDARDS OF THE GDC, INCLUDING OUR RECENTLY UPDATED MULTI-FAMILY STANDARDS.

SO, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ONE IS APPROVAL OF A ZONING CHANGE FROM THE AG DISTRICT TO PDD 84 96.

UH, AND THEN BEFORE I STOP TALKING, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE RESPONSE LETTERS.

UM, WE MAILED OUT 11 NOTICES, UH, TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS ON THIS ONE, AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I SEE NONE.

UH, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH? YES, SIR.

UH, FOR THE COMMISSION AND FOR THE PUBLIC.

MIGHT BE LISTENING.

I THINK THIS IS A RESULT OF AT LEAST RECENT SWAP, KIND OF A SWAP OF TWO TRACKS OF LAND.

THAT IS CORRECT.

CITY AND SPRING, IS IT SPRING CREEK CHURCH? YES.

THE, THE CHURCH WHICH CURRENTLY OWNS THE LARGER PARCEL, UM, THEY HAVE A SMALL TRIANGULAR PORTION THAT WOULD BE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF NAMAN FOREST ROAD.

UM, WE'RE JUST KIND OF DOING A SWAP, UM, WITH THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO KIND OF ALLOW AND I DEVELOPMENT.

AND I SAY, I THINK THIS IS A, A GREAT DEAL FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE CITIZENS.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, UH, AS A GREAT MOVE TO, TO ROUND OUT A DEVELOPMENT AREA.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

TEXT ICK JONES.

SEE NOTHING ELSE.

AND PLANNING WISE, IT MAKES SENSE TOO.

'CAUSE I DUNNO IF ANYBODY'S EVER TRIED TO LAY OUT SOMETHING ON A TRIANGULAR PIECE OF LAND, ONCE YOU HAVE THE SETBACKS DONE, , YOU'VE GOT NOTHING .

SO INCORPORATING IT, MAKING THEIR LIVES A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

MAKES SENSE.

THE CHAIRMAN IN A GRAY SUIT LOOKS TOWARD THE SPEAKER.

ALL RIGHTY.

GOOD TO GO.

THANK YOU FOLKS.

WE'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CARES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE.

NOPE.

OH, NO.

AS QUICK, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

MOTION TO APPROVE PER MOTION TO APPROVE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

AND COMMISSIONER ABEL.

SECOND.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST.

SCOTT ROBERTS LOOKS DOWN AND THEN TO HIS RIGHT, PLEASE VOTE.

TEXT VOTING RESULTS MOTION BY JULIUS JENKINS.

SECONDED BY PATRICK ABELL.

A CIRCULAR FLORAL GRAPHIC WITH THE WORD GARLAND IS DISPLAYED.

ADD PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

GOOD JOB, .

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM TWO EGDC AMENDMENT 25 DASH ZERO NINE.

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO SEVERAL SECTIONS WITHIN CHAPTER FOUR, SITE DEVELOPMENT.

AND CHAPTER SEVEN, DOWNTOWN DISTRICT GENERALLY RELATED TO CITYWIDE AND DOWNTOWN SIGN REGULATIONS.

WELCOME BACK.

YES, SIR.

SECOND AND FINAL CASE I HAVE FOR Y'ALL THIS EVENING.

UH, THIS IS ORD OR ORDINANCE, UH, 25 0 9.

WON'T REPEAT THAT.

OUR CHAIR DID A GREAT JOB OF , UH, SUMMARIZING THAT REQUEST.

UM, SO FIRST, A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE OR DSC OF CITY COUNCIL, UM, LAST YEAR, DIRECTED STAFF TO REVIEW OUR EXISTING SIGN REGULATIONS IN THE GDC, UM, AND DEVELOP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REDUCING UNNECESSARY BARRIERS TO SIGN DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO CURRENTLY, UH, CHAPTER FOUR, ARTICLE FIVE, UH, OF THE GDC HAS OUR STANDARDS FOR, UM, CITYWIDE SIGNS, AND THEN ANY SIGN STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY.

UM, THOSE CAN BE FOUND IN CHAPTER SEVEN.

ARTICLE SEVEN AMENDMENTS RELATE TO.

UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PACKET, IT'S A VERY LONG , UM, ATTACHMENT.

UM, A LOT OF, UH, THE PROPOSED CHANGES AREN'T REALLY SUBSTANTIVE IN NATURE.

THEY'RE BASICALLY JUST SORT OF CLEANING UP A LOT OF THE REGULATIONS, MAKING THEM MORE USER FRIENDLY, UH, MAKING THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD.

UM, SO THAT STAFF DECISION MAKERS SIGNED CONTRACTORS, EVERYONE CAN KIND

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OF JUST UNDERSTAND THINGS A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY.

UM, BUT AS FAR AS SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES AND CHANGES TO CONTENT, UM, THAT GENERALLY FALLS INTO FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH.

SO, UH, WE WANTED TO LOOSEN RESTRICTIONS ON ALLOWABLE SIZE OF SIGNAGE IN SOME AREAS.

UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE OUR, UH, PROCESS FOR MINOR AND MAJOR WAIVERS DOWNTOWN.

UH, A LITTLE MORE USER FRIENDLY.

UM, LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF CLEANUP OF, UH, THE, JUST THE USER FRIENDLINESS OF THE REGULATIONS, WHICH I'LL GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL ON.

UM, AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES A NEW PROCESS FOR THE DESIGNATION OF ICONIC SIGNS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHICH ARE PRETTY COOL.

WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, SO FIRST THAT SIZE RESTRICTIONS.

UM, THE FIRST, UH, PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE AREA OF WALL SIGNS WHEN THEY ARE SIZE RESTRICTIONS.

STRIKE REAL SIGN WHERE NEAR HIGHWAYS AND, UM, HIGHER ON A FACADE WIND NEAR A HIGHWAY.

UM, SO IF WE HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THAT, LIKE THIS STRIKE REEL, UH, PROPERTY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS DEVELOPED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, UM, THE TOTAL AREA PERMITTED FOR ALL WALL SIGNS ON ANY ELEVATION, UM, WHEN NEAR A HIGHWAY CAN BE MULTIPLIED BY A FACTOR OF TWO.

UM, AND THEN IN THAT SITUATION, IF SIGNAGE IS MOUNTED WITHIN THE UPPERMOST, 25% OF THE HEIGHT OF A FACADE LIKE YOU SEE HERE IN THIS IMAGE, UM, THAT TOTAL AREA FOR WALL SIGNS MAY BE MULTIPLIED BY A FACTOR OF THREE.

UM, AND THEN ANOTHER SIZE RESTRICTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE DOWNTOWN REGULATIONS.

UM, WE WANTED TO REALLY INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE AREA OF WALL SIGNS THERE.

UM, THIS EPIPHANY GALLERY, UH, MAJOR WAIVER CASE, UM, FROM LAST YEAR.

YEAH, UH, IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF JUST HOW RESTRICTIVE THE CURRENT REGULATIONS ARE.

UM, SO IF, IF A SIGN IS LESS THAN 12 FEET ABOVE GRADE, IT CAN ONLY HAVE A MAX SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 10 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS REALLY RESTRICTIVE, UM, FOR OUR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES.

UM, AND THEN IF IT'S 12 FEET OR MORE ABOVE GRADE, YOU CAN HAVE A MAX AREA OF 30 SQUARE FEET.

WE'RE JUST PROPOSING TO DO AWAY WITH THAT HEIGHT RESTRICTION.

SO ANY, UM, WALL SIGN DOWNTOWN IS NOW WOULD, WOULD NOW BE ALLOWED, UM, A MAX AREA OF 30 SQUARE FEET REGARDLESS OF THAT HEIGHT GALLERY TO GUITAR SIGN.

UH, AND THEN FOR THE DOWNTOWN WAIVER PROCESS, SO CURRENTLY ANY DEVIATION TO ASSIGN ALLOWABLE SIZE REQUIRES A MAJOR WAIVER IN THE, IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

SO ANY KIND OF DEVIANCE, UH, DEVIATION TO, UM, ASSIGNED SIZE HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

UM, WE'RE PROPOSING TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD.

UM, SO ANY SIGN THAT'S CONSTRUCTED UP TO THE CITYWIDE STANDARDS RATHER THAN JUST THE DOWNTOWN STANDARDS, UM, COULD BE ALLOWED, UH, JUST WITH A MINOR WAIVER, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.

UM, THIS COULD, YOU KNOW, INCREASE PREDICTABILITY FOR SIGN CRAFT CONTRACTORS FOR BUSINESS OWNERS, SHORTEN THOSE PROCESS TIMELINES.

WE ALL LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THEN ANY DEVIATIONS BEYOND THE CITYWIDE STANDARDS WOULD STILL REQUIRE A MAJOR WAIVER.

SO WE STILL HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER THOSE SIGN REGULATIONS, JUST KIND OF MAKING THINGS A LITTLE EASIER FOR FOLKS.

UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS USER FRIENDLINESS, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIGN CODE TODAY, IT'S A LOT OF TEXT , A LOT, A LOT OF TEXT.

UM, WE'VE CONDENSED, UM, NEARLY ALL OF THAT TEXT INTO A TABLE FORMAT.

UM, AND THE COLUMNS OF THOSE TABLES.

UH, QUICKLY, VERY BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, SIZE RESTRICTIONS, UM, PLACEMENT.

SO THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHERE AN ATTACHED SIGN HAS TO BE PLACED ON A FACADE WHERE A FREESTANDING SI UH, SIGN NEEDS TO BE PLACED, UM, ON A SITE, STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SIGNS, AND THEN IF A PERMIT IS REQUIRED.

UM, AND THEN WE STILL HAVE SORT OF A SPECIAL STANDARDS COLUMN, UM, THAT WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR SOME OF THE SIGN TYPES FOR, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS, LIGHTING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO ANOTHER TABLE WE'VE ADDED, UH, DENOTES, WHICH ZONING DISTRICTS PERMIT THE VARIOUS SIGN TYPES.

WE'VE CONDENSED THAT INTO A TABLE FORMAT, WHICH WAS PRETTY TRICKY TO FIGURE OUT BEFORE WITH ALL THIS TEXT.

UM, ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW, IT JUST MAKES THE REGULATIONS EASIER TO READ AND COMPREHEND FOR, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OWNERS, SIGN CONTRACTORS, FOLKS WHO WOULD BE USING THE SECTION OF CODE.

AND THIS LAST SECTION'S PRETTY COOL, UM, IT TO ALLOW SIGNS THAT STRENGTHEN THE CHARACTER AND IDENTITY OF GARLAND.

UM, THE PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES A NEW PROCESS FOR THE DESIGNATION OF WHAT WE'RE CALLING ICONIC SIGNS.

THESE ARE INTENDED FOR SIGNS THAT ENHANCE THE SENSE OF PLACE WALKABILITY, DISTINCTIVENESS OF GARLAND'S, DESTINATIONS LIKE DOWNTOWN, OUR CULTURAL DISTRICTS, OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.

IT'S A GREAT PHOTO OF THE GARLAND SHOPPING CENTER SIGN THAT WAS RESTORED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.

GREAT EXAMPLE OF, UM, A SIGN THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD POTENTIALLY BE DESIGNATED ICONIC.

UM, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THIS, OF COURSE.

UH, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT AND THEN ULTIMATELY APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL.

UM, BUT WE'VE KIND OF INTENTIONALLY WRITTEN THE REGULATIONS FOR THIS SIGN TYPE TO BE VERY BROAD.

WE WANNA ALLOW A GREATER DEGREE OF CREATIVITY AND ARTISTRY, UM, FOR ANY SIGN THAT RECEIVES AS A DESIGNATION.

UM, KIND

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OF EXEMPT IT FROM A LOT OF OUR STANDARD REGULAT REGULATIONS.

UM, BUT ANY KIND OF SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS, THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, OF COURSE WOULD STILL APPLY.

UM, SO WITH THAT, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS, TEXT.

SCOTT ROBERTS CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? TEST ONE, TWO.

I CAN HEAR YOU.

I DUNNO IF YOUR MIC'S ON, BUT I CAN HEAR YOU SCOOT CLOSER THERE.

.

UM, OKAY.

I, JULIUS JENKINS GESTURES READ, UH, THE REPORT AND, UH, THOUGHT IT WAS, UH, NOT THE MOST ENGAGING THING THAT I'VE EVER READ, , SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN, UH, UH, I WON'T TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT.

THANK YOU.

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UH, I, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE DT WAIVER ISSUES.

UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING RID OF THAT.

SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING EFFECTIVELY IS THAT THERE IS NO DT ISSUE.

IT'S ALL GONNA BE JUST EFFECTIVELY WHATEVER THE CITY STANDARD IS OR WILL BE.

NO.

SO, UM, A SIGN DOWNTOWN COULD, UM, STILL POTENTIALLY BE ALLOWED UP TO THE CITYWIDE STANDARDS.

IT, UH, THROUGH A MINOR WAIVER RATHER THAN A MAJOR WAIVER.

SO BEFORE ANY KIND OF DEVIATION TO DOWNTOWN SIDE STANDARDS WAS A MAJOR WAIVER, THAT'S THE FULL PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO COUNCIL.

UM, NOW WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A SIGN COULD STILL GO UP TO CITYWIDE STANDARDS, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO RECEIVE A MINOR WAIVER.

SO THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

UM, BUT IT WOULDN'T JUST BE APPROVED OUTRIGHT.

AND THE MINOR WAIVER IS DISCRETIONARY BY, IT'S, IT'S DISCRETIONARY BY, UM, STAFF, CORRECT? YES.

AND WE THINK OF IT AS ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE.

WE, IT'S NOT JUST, OH, I'M ASKING FOR IT.

SO STAFF JUST APPROVE IT.

THERE HAS TO BE REASONING, THERE HAS TO BE WHY YOU NEED THIS.

AND STAFF LOOKS AT THE FEASIBILITY OF IT AND APPLICABILITY OF IT FOR THAT PURPOSE.

SO I DON'T WANNA SAY DISCRETIONARY BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY USED FOR COUNCIL DECISIONS, BUT IT'S FOR PROVIDING FLEXIBILITY IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL BASED ON REASONINGS AND, UM, FEASIBILITY OF A REQUEST BASED ON ARTICULABLE REASONING.

CORRECT.

THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE CODE SOMEWHERE.

THE DOWNTOWN CODE DOES HAVE, UM, THE SECTION THAT IDENTIFIES WHAT MINOR WAIVERS COULD BE.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A CRITERIA THAT, OH, ONLY IF IT'S THIS, YOU CAN APPROVE IT.

IT'S MORE OF A STAFF POLICY THAT NO, IT CANNOT JUST BE, OH, I WANT THIS WAIVER.

SO YOU GIVE IT TO US.

IT'S THROUGH A PROCESS, JUST LIKE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE.

AND JUST, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, THIS IS NOT STAFF'S IDEA NECESSARILY.

THIS DID COME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE.

THEY KIND OF LOOKED AT THE EPIPHANY SIGN AND NAMEPLATES THE REQUESTS THAT WE WERE HAVING IN DOWNTOWN AND WANTED TO KIND OF PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS.

SO THIS REQUEST OR THIS PARTICULAR SOLUTION, UH, WAS DISCUSSED WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE THEY AGREED.

UM, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE EPIPHANY EXAMPLE? IF WE, IF WE COULD LEFT MONITOR EPIPHANY COFFEE.

UM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A ALLOWING OR PERMITTING THE SIGNAGE TO INCREASE, TO COVER THE, THE, THE FACADE FACADE TO BASICALLY COVER THE ENTIRETY OF THE, OF THE FRONT, RIGHT? NO.

SO ALL WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS, UM, ELIMINATE THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON ALLOWABLE AREA.

SO CURRENTLY, UM, IF A SIGN IS LESS THAN 12 FEET ABOVE GRADE, IT CAN ONLY BE 10 SQUARE FEET MAX, WHICH IS REALLY SMALL FOR A PRIMARY WALL SIGN FOR A BUSINESS.

AND THEN IF IT'S 12 FEET OR MORE ABOVE GRADE, YOU CAN GO UP TO 30 SQUARE FEET.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS AXING THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

SO ANY WALL SIGN DOWNTOWN CAN GO UP TO A MAX HEIGHT OF A MAX AREA, EXCUSE ME, OF 30 SQUARE FEET.

NOW, EVEN IF THAT IS, THAT IS AN EXCESS OF THE WALL THAT'S THERE, THAT'S THERE, THAT WOULD, I MEAN, THAT WOULD STILL BE A RESTRICTION ON, UM, THE AREA OF A SIGN SQUARE FEET, FOOT.

THAT'S FOR CITYWIDE.

OKAY.

YOU'RE, WE'RE IN THE BALLPARK.

AND I JUST AGAIN, WANT IT TO BE SO THAT I UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS AS IT IT WAS BEING PROPOSED.

UH, SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS ARE ALREADY THERE.

SO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY, THERE ARE SOME NEW CONSTRUCTIONS, BUT FOR THIS EPIPHANY, THAT BUILDING IS ALREADY THERE.

UH, AND IT IS, UM, LESS THAN 12 FEET.

SO THEY WERE LIMITED TO 10 SQUARE FOOT, AND THEY HAD TO COME THROUGH CITY COUNCIL AND PLAN, PLAN COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.

AND EVERYONE SAW THE REASONING BEHIND IT.

ALL WE ARE SAYING THAT, OH,

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INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT PROCESS WHERE IT'S SO OBVIOUS THAT 30 SQUARE FOOT DOES MAKE SENSE, WE JUST ELIMINATE THAT WHOLE PROCESS OF THEM HAVING TO APPLY AND GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

SO 30 SQUARE FOOT IS STILL THE LIMIT.

THEY CANNOT GO BEYOND THE WALL.

IT'S JUST THE WOMAN RAISES AND LOWERS YOUR HAND.

WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO, WHICH WAS APPROVED, CAN NOW BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY.

YEAH.

AND, AND YOUR QUESTION ALSO SPEAKS TO SORT OF THE PLACEMENT STANDARDS THAT ALSO APPLY TO SIGNS.

SO AREA AND HEIGHT, THOSE ONE, TWO OF THE STANDARDS, THERE'S STILL A PLACEMENT STANDARD THAT A WALL SIGN CAN'T EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE FACADE THAT IT'S ON.

SO IT CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE SIDE, HERE'S THE, THE ROOF OF THE STRUCTURE, IT CAN'T BE WAY UP HERE.

IT'S STILL THE MAX.

IT CAN, IT CAN'T EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF, ESSENTIALLY.

I MEAN, I GREEDILY, GREEDILY, I SAY THIS, I'M REALLY ONLY CONCERNED WITH THE DOWNTOWN, UH, AREA.

SURE.

YOU KNOW, JUST PARTIAL TO THAT AREA.

AND IT'S REALLY NICE AND EVERYBODY SHOULD COME TO VISIT IT.

I THINK WE ALL ARE.

YEAH.

GARLAND CITY LOGO.

PEOPLE SEATED DON'T THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, EXAMPLE PROVIDED REGARDING THE STRIKE AND VIEW.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BIGGER CAN BE BETTER, BUT I, I WANNA AVOID, I WANNA AVOID TURNING GARLAND INTO VEGAS.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH CANBERRA SHOWS FOUR MEN A TABLE.

WELL, THIS IS SOMETHING WE, UH, DISCUSS AND, AND WORK WITH OVER TIME IS, IS THINGS CHANGE.

IT'S CONSTANTLY A MOVING TARGET, SO TO SPEAK.

WHEN DID DSC DISCUSS THIS AND, AND ASSIGN IT TO STAFF? IT WAS LIKE LAST FEBRUARY OR MARCH.

UM, IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

UH, SO WE DID, I THINK IT CAME OUT OF CITY COUNCIL TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE SOMETIME MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR.

THEN STAFF MADE SOME PRESENTATIONS TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE IN FALL.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE ALSO DISCUSSED THIS AT, AT A WORK SESSION FOR STUDY COUNCIL.

OKAY.

TEXT SCOTT TIMMONS.

ME TOO.

END OF 2025.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT HAD COME BACK AND WENT THROUGH DSC BEFORE IT CAME TO US.

YEAH, NO, THE, THE PROCESS IS, UM, DSC, UM, ONCE DSC HAS AN ITEM, WE WORK WITH DSC, THEN WE PRESENT IT TO ALL OF CITY COUNCIL AND GET THEIR BLESSING TO, TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON IT MM-HMM .

SO THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING TIME ON SOMETHING THAT THE WHOLE COUNCIL DOESN'T AGREE ON.

SO ONCE THEY GIVE THEIR GREEN LIGHT, WE WORK ON IT AND THEN WE BRING IT TO PLAN COMMISSION.

IT DOESN'T GO BACK TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE.

IT HAD TO BE ALREADY KIND OF AT LEAST AGREED UPON ON THE MAJOR ITEMS. RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WELL, AND I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER JENKINS ABOUT DOWNTOWN AREA PARTICULARLY, UH, THE LARGER AREAS WILL KIND OF TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES, BUT THIS IS A KEY AREA WHERE THAT WE'RE ALL INTERESTED IN SEEING IT DEVELOP AND GROW.

AND, UH, THE EPIPHANY'S A GOOD, A GOOD, UH, EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT MAYBE TOOK A LITTLE MORE TIME AND PROCESS THAN IT WOULD'VE UNDER THIS PROCESS IF IT'S APPROVED.

AM I CORRECT IN THAT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

TEXT PLAN COMMISSION.

THERE WAS A RECENT EVENT CAME UP, I THINK PROBABLY MOST OF US SAW ON THE NEWS ABOUT A MURIEL IN DALLAS THAT GOT PAINTED OVER.

MM-HMM .

AND THE QUE MY QUESTION IS, WHO OWNS A PAINTING ON THE SIDE OF A BUILDING? THE BUILDING OWNER OR THE ARTIST THAT, THAT'S BEYOND OUR SCOPE OF, UH, CONCERN.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK SO.

IF IT'S A SIGN, IT'S PAINTED ON THE SIDE OF A BUILDING, DOES, DOES THIS, DOES THIS APPROACH THAT SUBJECT, A MURAL IS NOT A SIGN? SO THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS ABOUT TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEFINED DIFFERENTLY.

MURALS ARE, ARE DEFINED DIFFERENTLY THAN SIGNS UNDER THE GDC.

AND SO THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.

THEY LOOK THE SAME ON THEM, BUT NOT THE SAME .

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALSO REFERRED TO AS ORIGINAL DISPLAY ART.

SO THEY'RE REALLY ARTWORK SIGNS ARE TO PROMOTE A PRODUCT OR A BUSINESS MURAL IS PRIMARILY FOR ART PURPOSES.

SO WITH THAT, A RECENT, RECENT UPDATE ON THIS AMENDMENT IS THAT MURALS WERE ACTUALLY LOCATED WITHIN OUR SIGN SECTION.

AND WITH THIS UPDATE, WE ARE WHERE, WHERE WE ARE CLEANING THINGS UP, WE ACTUALLY REMOVED IT, AND WE'RE GONNA DEFINE IT IN OUR DEFINITION SECTION BECAUSE MURAL, MURAL, MURAL IS NOT ASSIGNED.

MURALS WERE IN THIS, AND IT WAS TAKEN OUT RIGHT.

INCORRECTLY IN HERE, BUT IT WAS STILL DEFINED AS ORIGINAL DISPLAY ART.

IT WAS JUST A PLACEMENT OF THAT DEFINITION WAS WITHIN THE SCIENCE SECTION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OWNER OWNERSHIP OF THE CANVAS OR THE CREATION IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ITEM FOR US.

NOT THERE, THERE IS AN ANSWER.

IT'S NOT A SIMPLE ANSWER.

UH, AND IT'S, BUT THERE IS AN ANSWER TO THAT, NOT FOR US.

DID I HEAR WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW? WE'RE WORKING ON MURIELS GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION MEETING.

WE ARE,

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UH, TRYING TO, BECAUSE WE'RE BIG ON ARTS, JUST GENERALLY AS A, SO IN OUR MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS, UM, WE ARE ENCOURAGING NEW.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO REMOVE IT FROM THE SIGN SECTION AND KEEP IT SEPARATE SO THAT IT CAN BE USED WITH ITS ORIGINAL INTENT.

OKAY.

STILL IMPORTANT SUBJECT DOWN THE ROAD.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, RYAN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A COUPLE JUST QUICK INFORMATION.

UH, SAY SOMEBODY COMES BY AND WANTS A MINOR WAIVER AND IT'S DECLINED BY STAFF.

DO THEY THEN GET TO APPEAL TO THE PLAN COMMISSION? I FORGET THE RELIEF PROCEDURE FOR, I DON'T THINK THE MINOR WAIVER HAS THAT, UM, IN, BUILT IN GDC.

OKAY.

UM, BUT IF Y'ALL WANT TO, WE CAN BUILD THAT IN.

AND IT MAY JUST BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

I THINK WE WANNA GIVE PEOPLE MORE AVENUES IF THEY, IT'S, IT'S LIKE THE PLAT PROCESS, IF IT, IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE RETURN.

OKAY.

WE'LL LOOK INTO IT TO MAKE SURE, AND THEN IF THERE'S NOT AN APPEAL PROCESS AVAILABLE, WE'LL ADD THAT IN THERE.

YEAH.

SORRY, JUST NOT THOUGH.

OH, NO, THAT'S PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

I GOT .

UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON MECHANIC SIGN, ACTUALLY.

ONE IS FOR ANY OWNER OUT THERE WITH A SIGN, NOW THE DESIGNATION CAN ONLY BE ASKED FOR BY THE OWNER.

UH, JOE PUBLIC CAN'T GO TO SOMEBODY IN SITE AND SAY, OH, I WANT THAT SIGN TO BE ICONIC AND FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK AND GET IT APPROVED WITHOUT THE OWNER'S PERMISSION.

CORRECT.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I SAW ON THE THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

YOU GOT THAT ONE.

OKAY.

.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO OWNER'S OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, DON'T BE AFRAID KNOW.

UH, ANOTHER QUESTION.

ICONIC SIGN WE WOULD TYPICALLY THINK OF AS SOMETHING OLD AND EXISTING.

COULD SOMEBODY COME FORWARD WITH AN INNOVATIVE DESIGN AND DECLARE IT TO BE ICONIC AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GET IT APPROVED? OKAY.

A SHAMELESS PLUG FOR, OH, SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH, NO, YOU GO AHEAD.

I WAS, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE IT, THERE'S A, UM, A CONCEPT THAT WAS, UM, OR HAS BEEN NOW PROPOSED IN OUR VERY RECENTLY ADOPTED, UM, HOUSING STRATEGY OF THE MID-CENTURY MILE, WHICH I'M HUGE FAN OF.

UM, THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF, OF, I THINK THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION TO GET OUT THERE AND MAY ENTICE PEOPLE FOR BETTER DESIGN.

YEAH.

IF THEY CAN GO, OH, ICONIC DESIGN, LET'S GO FOR IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHTY.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OH, BY, BY THE WAY, JOB WELL DONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LOVE THE TABLES AND EVERYTHING.

COMMISSIONER JENKINS, MR. CHAIR, I SPEAK ONLY TO, UH, SUGGEST THAT I WOULD, UH, BE IN FAVOR OR SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU MADE REGARDING AN APPEAL PROCESS FOR THE, UH, MINOR WAIVERS.

SO WE, WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO A MOTION, WHICH HAS, UH, JUST BEEN, UH, MADE BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MIRANDA.

SCOTT ROBERTS SMILES FAINTLY.

AS YOU WERE TALKING.

UH, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

YES.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED BY STAFF WITH THE ADDITION OF THE ADDING THE, UH, MINOR WAIVER, MINOR WAIVER APPEAL, AND AN APPEAL PROCESS.

TEXT EDGAR MIRANDA, DISTRICT SEVEN SECOND.

YEAH, LET ME, I'LL GIVE YOU AN OFFICIAL MICROPHONE.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

WE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGE TO THE SIGNED ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED BY STAFF WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT, UH, THAT THERE BE A PROCESS TO APPEAL MINOR WAIVERS.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THE MAN SITS BEHIND A WOODEN DESK AND LOOKS DOWN AT PAPERS.

I SEE NONE.

GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

TEXT SCOTT ROBERTS CHAIRMAN.

VOTING RESULTS.

CORNELIUS ABSTAINS.

YES.

EIGHT.

NO.

ZERO ABSTAIN.

ONE THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AGAIN.

JOB WELL DONE.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S A LA LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

AND SO, UH, WE'RE CO OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON JULY 13TH AND I WISH EVERYBODY A WONDERFUL AND SAFE 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY.

SO AS OF EIGHT 19, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

SCOTT.

ROBERTS LOOKS UP THEN DOWN.