* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] WELCOME TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE MEETING. TODAY IS JULY 23RD, 2026. IT IS FIVE O'CLOCK AND WE ARE MEETING IN THE CITY HALL WORK SESSION ROOM. JOINED BY COUNCILMAN ED MOORE, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM CARISSA DUTTON, OUR CITY MANAGER, MIKE BETZ, OUR NEW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, JEFF, BRIAN, AND VARIOUS STAFF. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. OUR AGENDA STARTS WITH APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. ITEM ONE A CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 25TH, 2026 MEETING MINUTES. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JUNE 25TH MINUTES. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? I, UH, ITEM TWO, PUBLIC COMMENTS. UM, MS. VANOVER, DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE DO NOT. ITEM THREE, A GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, STRATEGIC PLAN, AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALIGNMENT. AND I WILL LEAD THIS TO, WELL, AND THAT IS FOR COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COALITION. SO DO YOU WANNA DO ITEM TWO FIRST? UH, WE CAN DO EITHER ONE. THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, SCOPING. THE FIRST ONE'S A SCOPING MEETING ON OKAY. TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT WE WANT, WHAT THE COMMITTEE WANTS. YEAH. AND, AND, UH, I DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY TO PRESENT ON IT 'CAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE WHAT WE WANT. YEAH. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. I DO WANT TO MAKE A THRESHOLD COMMENT ON THIS, WHICH IS, UM, IF, UH, I HAD SOME UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THE MATTER WAS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT, THAT THESE THREE DOCUMENTS WORKED TOGETHER AND THAT THE COUNSEL WORKED IN ALIGNMENT WITH THESE THREE DOCUMENTS. YES. THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS THE SUM TOTAL OF MY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THAT ITEM. AND SO, UH, I THOUGHT I WOULD GET DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE AS TO WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. WELL, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBER DUTTON, THIS WAS YOUR ITEM. I'LL LET YOU TALK ABOUT IT. UM, YOU'RE PRETTY SPOT ON. JUST, UM, VERIFYING THAT ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT PLANS AND STRATEGIES AND ALL OF THE BINDERS OF, UH, RULES THAT WE HAVE, THAT THEY ALL ALIGN WITH EACH OTHER. UM, THERE'S SOMETIMES WHERE IT FEELS LIKE SOME OF THEM KIND OF MISS THE MARK WITH EACH OTHER. UM, AND SO THAT WAS THE GOAL, IS JUST MAKE SURE THAT, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. I HAVE A SUGGESTION THAT I'LL OFFER TO THE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMING BACK AND I'M, I'M NOT SURE, ANDY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE FINAL DATE IS ON THE, ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BE IN OCTOBER? MAYBE, OR SEPTEMBER? I WOULD SAY IN THE FALL. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE YET FOR TWO WEEKS. SO I WOULD SAY SO. SO WE'LL HAVE A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND I THOUGHT WHAT WE WOULD DO DO IS, IS BRING THIS BACK AT THE SAME TIME AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UH, WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOES TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE, AFTER THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ADOPTED, COME BACK AND THEN ALIGN THOSE. SO RIGHT NOW, THE, THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS PROBABLY NOT IDEALLY ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, AND, AND IS OUTDATED. AND SO I, MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE, NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS YOU'RE EXACTLY LOOKING FOR, IS TO, 'CAUSE I THINK WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ALIGN IT. AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK, MAYBE TALK ABOUT HOW THEY'RE ALIGNED AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT ANY CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE GET MADE THAT ARE NECESSARY, MOST NECESSARY TO ALIGN WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT THAT TIME. AND IF THAT WOULD BE, UH, ACCEPTABLE. THE COMMITTEE, THAT'D BE MY RECOMMENDATION. JUST SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ALIGN AND THEN MOVE AND ALIGN AGAIN, THAT WORKS FOR ME. UM, I ONCE, THESE ARE ALL KIND OF, ONCE ALL OF THE ITEMS COALESCE, UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A RUBRIC OR A FLOW CHART THAT COUNCIL CAN REFER TO. UM, THAT KIND OF, IF, IF, IF IT ALIGNS WITH THIS AND IT ALIGNS WITH THIS, THEN THIS KIND OF THING. UM, I NOTICED AT THE DEUS IN THE, UH, IN CHAMBERS, UM, ONE OF, I GUESS MY PLAN COMMISSIONER HAD FIVE QUESTIONS POSTED ON THE DEUS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US THAT WE'RE, UM, BASICALLY SAYING IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH BASED ON THESE CRITERIA? SO CHEAT SHEET MM-HMM . SO, YEAH, SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CREATED FOR THE PLAN COMMISSION FOR THE TRAINING, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE TRAINING THAT WE DID THE PLAN COMMISSION, UH, FOR THE PLAN COMMISSION ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. UM, AND IT WAS, IT WAS, THEY, THEY INDICATED IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY HAD HAD SUCH TRAINING, THEY'D ALWAYS BEEN TOLD, WELL, HERE'S HOW ALL THE STATUTES WORK, AND HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO [00:05:01] DECIDE. IT'S THE FIRST TIME WHERE SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY CAME AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TRY TO DO, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE TOWARDS. BECAUSE I WANTED TO GET BETTER ALIGNMENT WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN. MY THOUGHT IS WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DONE, QUITE FRANKLY, WOULD BE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND DO THE SAME THING HERE. AND WE LEFT THEM A DUS CARD, UH, WITH THE FIVE QUESTIONS THEY SHOULD ASK ABOUT EVERY CASE THAT COMES IN TO INSERT, ENSURE THAT IT'S IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR STRATEGIC. AND I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, SAY WHEN, WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DONE, I WILL BRING SUCH A THING BACK AND I'LL PROBABLY HAVE AN AGENDA SESSION WHERE I JUST LITERALLY HAVE A 30 MINUTE EXPLANATION OF HERE'S HOW ALL THESE PLANS WORK TOGETHER. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IN ADOPTING ANY ZONING ORDINANCES GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. GREAT. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I, YOU KNOW, I THINK MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS TO HAVE EVERYBODY KIND OF SIGN A, UH, UH, NOT NECESSARILY A CONTRACT, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, I PROMISE TO UPHOLD THESE DOCUMENTS KIND OF THING. AND I WAS TOLD THAT THAT WASN'T ALLOWED. SO FREAKING ENGLAND. SO IT, ENGLAND IT WAS. AND SO IF WE HAD SOME A, LIKE AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL THING THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HELPED US, HELPED GUIDE COUNCIL MEMBERS EVEN AFTER ALL OF US ARE GONE, UM, FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS TO KIND OF STICK TO THIS PLAN. YES, MA'AM. I MEAN, THEY CAN ALWAYS STRIKE IT DOWN IF THEY WANT TO, BUT I'M GOING TO BRING THAT BACK. THE CARDS THAT I, UH, PRESENTED IN THERE, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA DISTRIBUTE THEM AND JUST WITH A, AN EMAIL TO Y'ALL SAYING AND GIVE YOU COPIES OF 'EM SAYING, HEY, I'VE DONE THIS FOR THE PLAN COMMISSION. SO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM MM-HMM . WHEN THEY'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS. 'CAUSE THIS IS THE LENS THAT I'VE ASKED 'EM TO LOOK AT THINGS THROUGH, I'LL PRESENT THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO COME BACK ONCE ALL THESE THREE DOCUMENTS ARE DONE TOGETHER. AND, UH, I THINK, NO, NO DISRESPECT TO THE PLAN COMMISSION. I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS A BETTER SENSE OF THAT GENERALLY THAN THE PLAN COMMISSION HAD. THEY OPERATED AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL AND SO THEY NEEDED THAT TRAINING RIGHT AWAY. MM-HMM . I THINK ONCE THESE THREE DOCUMENTS ARE ALIGNED, I THINK WE'D COME BACK AND SAY, HERE'S THE ALIGNMENT, HERE'S THE QUESTIONS THAT WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ALIGNMENT STAYS IN PLACE. MM-HMM . AND THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. IS THAT ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADOPT INTO COUNCIL POLICY? UH, THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO ASK MR. OW BECAUSE OF HOW IT INTERPLAYS WITH ZONING. YEAH. WITH THE INTERACTION. ONCE IT GETS ALL TOGETHER, WE CAN TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT AND BRINGING IT BACK AS PART OF THE SAME PRESENTATION. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS, COMMITTEE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT THE, UH, REVOLUTION THAT MIKE HAS PUT FORWARD, THERE'S, THERE'S VERY LITTLE WE CAN DO UNTIL, ALRIGHT. ITEM THREE B, DISCUSS FORMATION OF A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COALITION. AND JEFF BRYAN IS HERE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THREE A FIRST? OH, YES. UH, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND DO WE NEED A MOTION? AND SECOND TO MOVE THIS TO, SO, BUT IT'S GONNA GO, MIKE'S GONNA PRESENT IT BACK TO COUNCIL. UM, IT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM YET, SO, UM, WE'RE, IT, IT'S BASICALLY JUST BEING KICKED BACK TO YOU. OKAY. WITH A NOTE THAT, THAT ONCE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DONE, PUT IT BACK ON THIS AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. ONCE WE GET OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THROUGH THE COUNCIL, WE'LL COME BACK WITH ALL THREE MINUTES AND REVISIT, HOWEVER. ALRIGHT. I'M LEARNING . SO MY TOPIC IS A DISCUSSION ON THE FORMATION OF A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COALITION. UH, I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE FIRST MEETING. I DID LISTEN TO THE FIRST MEETING AND I LISTENED TO THE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WHEN THE REFERRAL WAS MADE. HAVING SAID THAT, IF I GET OUTTA CONTEXT, SOMEBODY THROW A SHOE AT ME OR SOMETHING. 'CAUSE UH, I THINK I'VE GOT THE GIST OF IT. UM, I ALSO SAY THAT, UH, AND MIKE AND I, YOU KNOW, UM, MIKE AND I HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS LEADING UP TO THIS MEETING, BUT I'VE GOT A LONG HISTORY DEALING WITH VOLUNTEER GROUPS AND WITH, UH, CHARITY ORGANIZATIONS. I'VE GOT 20 YEARS WITH THIS CITY SINCE I WAS AN NPO. AND SO I THINK THIS IS A, I ASKED MIKE IF I COULD TAKE THIS TASK ON. I THINK ORIGINALLY IT WAS MIKE WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT IT. SO THE CHARGE WAS TO DISCUSS, UH, BUILDING A CITY SUPPORTED COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP COALITION. AND AFTER THE FIRST MEETING, UH, WE ARE NOW RETURNING WITH A FRAMEWORK OF OPTIONS WITH PROS AND CONS FOR DISCUSSION, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS THIS MEETING. NOW THIS IS FOUR OPTIONS AT A GLANCE, AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THESE IN DETAIL MORE IN A BIT. BUT THESE WERE FOUR OPTIONS THAT, UM, THAT WERE, THAT WERE ON THE POWER PORT AND WERE COMING TO ME. AND SO I'VE ADDED A FIFTH OPTION, WHICH I'LL SHOW [00:10:01] YOU IN A MINUTE, BUT THESE ARE THE ORIGINAL FOUR OPTIONS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING. UH, SOCIAL SERVICES ROUNDTABLE EXPAND ON THE EXISTING BOARD, A CMO TASK FORCE OR A NEW BOARD OR COMMISSION. I'VE ADDED A FIFTH OPTION, WHICH IS MAINTAIN EXISTING FRAMEWORK WHILE MONITORING FOR INTERVENTION OPPORTUNITIES. UH, IN SHORT, THAT MEANS DON'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT. AND THE REASON I ADDED THAT OPTION IS 'CAUSE I WANT TO AT LEAST SPEND SOME TIME EXPLAINING WHAT WE DO NOW AND SEE IF, IF, UH, KINDA LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. SO I'M GONNA START WITH THAT. I'M GONNA START WITH KIND OF MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE PAST SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS AS CHIEF AND MY EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS AND THE WAY WE ORGANIZE AND WORK WITH THESE CHARITY GROUPS. NOW, NATURALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS OUR CHARITY GROUPS ARE PARTNERS WITH OUR EMERGENCY AND FIRST RESPONDERS. MOST OF THE CLIENTS THAT THEY ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS, IT'S OUR CLIENTS AS WELL, BOTH POLICE AND FIRE. AND SO HISTORICALLY, UM, WE ARE DEALING WITH UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES. MAYBE IT'S A INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCE, UH, A LOT OF ADDRESSING THE HOMELESS ISSUE AND A LOT OF COORDINATING DURING MAJOR INCIDENTS. NOW, WE ADDED ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, WE ADDED SOCIAL WORKERS TO CITY STAFF, UH, FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. AND WE ADDED TWO SOCIAL WORKERS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND NOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A SOCIAL WORKER. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT BUILDING IS A, UH, A DIRECTORY OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES. AND I, I PUT IN FRONT OF YOU WHAT IS OUR BLUE BOOK? AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS. AND IF YOU SEE ON THERE, IT SAYS PROOF BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THIS BEFORE WE FINALIZE IT. BUT AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WERE PUTTING EVERY SINGLE RESOURCE THAT WE THOUGHT ANYONE WOULD NEED IN THE CITY OF GARLAND, OR THAT HAS IMPACT IN THE CITY OF GARLAND IN ONE CATALOG. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PUTTING, ESPECIALLY AT THE END OF THAT BOOK IS WHERE YOU'LL SEE A CATALOG OF ALL THOSE RESOURCES. THAT'S EVERYONE WE WORK WITH. THAT'S EVERYONE THE CITY WORKS WITH. AND THAT'S EVERYONE WE REFER INDIVIDUALS TO. WE STILL HAVE A FEW TO BUILD ON THAT, BUT THE GOAL IS, ONCE THIS IS FINISHED, WHICH WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO FINISH, THIS IS TO NOT HAND OUT A BOOK OF HOWEVER MANY PAGES, 30 PAGES LIKE YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. BUT WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT ON A QR CODE ON A BUSINESS CARD, AND WE'RE GONNA HAND THOSE OUT SO THAT, UM, YOU HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AT YOUR FINGERTIPS OR ON YOUR PHONE, AND YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH THOSE. UH, SOME OF OUR PAST AND CURRENT EFFORTS COORDINATING, UH, CHARITY, UH, ORGANIZATIONS. PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE WE HAD WAS RIGHT BEFORE COVID HIT, WE HAD A, WE BUILT A BIG COALITION TO ADDRESS HOMELESS. AND WE HAD PARKLAND HOSPITAL, WE HAD NAMI, UH, WE HAD GOOD SAMS, WE HAD LOCAL CHURCH GROUPS. UM, IT WAS A REALLY BIG EFFORT TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS. UH, THE PANDEMIC HIT THAT KIND OF STOPPED EVERYTHING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THEN WE PICKED IT UP AGAIN A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER, ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, WE PICKED IT UP AND WE'RE MEETING DOWN AT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE. AND IT STARTED OFF REALLY ROBUST AND REALLY GOOD. UH, AND THEN IT JUST FADED, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT I CAN SEE IS EVERY OF ALL THE GROUPS WE HAD THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD THEIR OWN MISSIONS, THEY HAD THEIR OWN PURPOSE, AND IT, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS LIKE HERDING CATCH TO AGREE TO GET, TO GET THEM COORDINATED INTO ONE DIRECTION. SO WE DID ATTEMPT TO DO THAT A FEW YEARS AGO. I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD SAY THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL. I, IT JUST, PEOPLE STARTED NOT SHOWING UP LATER AND EVENTUALLY IT KIND OF WENT AWAY. UH, TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE DO COORDINATE A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH SOME OF THESE GROUPS. WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY LEADERS GROUP THAT WE MEET WITH AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH OR ONCE EVERY COUPLE MONTHS. AND THAT'S THE NAACP LULAC, GAFA, ASIAN COMMUNITY LEADERS GROUP. UM, MY FOLKS AT THE, AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO HAVE ANOTHER GROUP THAT THEY MEET WITH, UH, AS FAR AS NAMI, UM, GOOD SAMS SOME OF THOSE GROUPS. AND SO THE YEARS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ANYWAY, AND I THINK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S KIND OF TAKEN OVER THE, THE ROLE OF THE COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY IN THIS. BUT WE CREATED THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND RESOURCE UNIT WHERE WE HAVE TWO SOCIAL WORKERS. WE HAVE OUR VICTIMS' CRIME ADVOCATE, WE HAVE TWO HOMELESS OFFICERS, AND WE HAVE OUR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER. AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS DO MOST OF THE COORDINATING WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS. UH, IT'S EVEN SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SITTING ON SIT ON THE BOARD OF, LIKE, WE HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT OF NAMI FOR SEVERAL YEARS. AND SO THEY'RE REALLY CLOSE [00:15:01] TIES TO SOME OF THESE GROUPS. ALSO PUT ON THERE UNLOCKING DOORS. JUST SO I CAN MENTION UNLOCKING DOORS. YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT FAMILIAR WITH UNLOCKING DOORS. IT'S FAIRLY NEW. IT'S IN DALLAS. UH, IT'S, SHE RAN BY AN INDIVIDUAL NAMED, UH, CHRISTINA CRANE. AND SHE DOES A LOT OF COORDINATING AS WELL. AND SO WHAT WE FIND IS A LOT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS DO NOT WANT TO TALK TO, IF YOU SEE GOVERNMENT OR CITY OF GARLAND, THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU. AND SO, UH, UNLOCKING DOORS IS KIND OF OUR GO-BETWEEN SO THAT THEY WOULD TALK TO HER WHERE THEY WOULDN'T TALK TO US. AND THEN I PUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN ON HERE BECAUSE THE WAY MIKE IS ENVISIONING USING VOLUNTEERS IS REALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE ANY WAY WE'VE USED VOLUNTEERS IN THE PAST, WHICH IS TO PROACTIVELY GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AND, AND FIX PROBLEMS TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE BIGGER, THE BIGGER PLAN OF HELPING THE CITY. LESSONS IN THE PAST THAT, UH, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE MY PERSONAL LESSONS THAT I'VE LEARNED. ONE IS THE INDEPENDENCE. UM, A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS FEAR BEING A PART OF THE GOVERNMENT OR A PART OF THE CITY OR BEING RUN BY THE CITY. AND SO THEY SEPARATE FROM US AND THEY TRY TO MAINTAIN A SEPARATION FROM US. WE SEE THIS AS WELL. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE USE UNLOCKING DOORS. WE'VE, WE'VE ALSO TEAMED UP WITH A FRATERNITY, UH, LOCAL FRATERNITY IN THE AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW CJ THAT SITS ON THE MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION, BUT HE'S HELPED US WITH THAT. AND WE USE THAT FRATERNITY AND THEIR VOICE AND THEIR PHONE CALLS TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE FEAR OF, OF DIRECT CONTACT WITH GOVERNMENT. UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE FRICTION. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE GOALS THAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, BOTH IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AT LARGE. UH, BUT EACH ONE OF THESE CHARITY GROUPS HAVE THEIR OWN BOARDS, THEIR OWN COMMISSIONS. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT GOALS. SO IT'S BEEN, AGAIN, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR GOALS. WITH OUR GOALS, UH, EXPECTATIONS. RESIDENTS MAY EXPECT US TO SOLVE SERVICE GAPS. AND WE'VE EXPERIENCED THIS AS WELL WHEN WE WOULD REFER SOMEONE TO A PARTICULAR SERVICE AND THEY WOULD COME BACK AND COMPLAIN TO US IF THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT SERVICE WA MET THEIR NEEDS. AND THEN THEY WOULD EXPECT THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FILL THAT GAP BETWEEN THEIR SERVICE, POLITICAL RISK. UH, WE HAVE HAD, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UH, GET REAL ACTIVE POLITICALLY AND THAT WE'VE HAD TO SEPARATE FROM SOME. SO, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. JUST KINDA GIVING YOU A PICTURE, THE FOUR OPTIONS AT A GLANCE. UH, DIFFERENT OPTIONS. LET'S START WITH THE S SOCIAL SERVICES ROUND TABLE. THIS WOULD BE, UH, STAFFED BY CITY, STAFFED BY, UH, OUR, OUR, UH, MENTAL HEALTH INDIVIDUALS, OUR CLINICIANS. UM, WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT THIS, IT HAS NO BYLAWS, NO POSTED MEETING. IT'S CITY WORKERS THAT ARE SIMPLY CON UH, CONVERGING A ROUND TABLE AND DISCUSSING ISSUES AND TRYING TO FIX ISSUES THROUGH COOPERATION AND THROUGH RELATIONSHIPS. THIS WOULD BE OUR FASTEST OPTION ON PAPER. COULD START WITH WEEKS, SOMEWHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, BUT WE WOULD FOCUS ON A MORE COORDINATED EFFORT CITYWIDE. AND, UH, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS LICENSED SOCIAL WORKERS ARE MORE, THEY HAVE A STRONGER VOICE WITH A LOT OF THESE GROUPS THAN WHAT MAYBE, UH, AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WOULD'VE. ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE EXPAND ON EXISTING BOARDS. UM, SO THIS WOULD BE ADDING THIS MISSION TO AN EXISTING BOARD THAT WE HAVE. UH, THAT'S LOWER STAFF INTENSITY. SINCE THERE'S NO NEW BOARD, THERE'S SEVERAL CANDIDATES, UH, CANDIDATE BOARDS THAT ARE ALREADY UNCLEAR ON THE CURRENT MISSION. BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S RISK TO ALL THIS. PUTTING A NEW MISSION ON A BOARD THAT MAYBE IS HAVING ISSUES RIGHT NOW MAY NOT BE THE BEST CHOICE, BUT IT IS ONE OF THE CHOICES THAT WE COULD CONSIDER. THE THIRD CHOICE, WHICH I THINK IS MIKE'S FAVORITE CHOICE, IS THE CITY MANAGER OFFICER TASK FORCE. THIS WOULD BE CITY BACKING AND, I'M SORRY. OH, SORRY. YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. I CAN'T SEE THIS. IT'S, IT'S COMPUTERS BAD. I'M USING MY PAPER , BUT A CMO TASK FORCE WHERE BASICALLY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS GROUP WOULD BE THE ONES IN CHARGE OF ORGANIZING, RUNNING, AND HAVING A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION [00:20:01] WITH SOME OF THESE, UH, SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND FIXING ISSUES. IF WE SEE ISSUES COME UP, UH, THIS TASK WOULD HAVE A BUILT IN SUNSET REVIEW AND THEN WE COULD BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE WHAT WE'RE KIND OF SEEING, THE SUCCESS, THE FAILURES OF IT, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECIDE IF WE WANNA RENEW IT OR IF WE WANT TO GRADUATE TO A FULL BOARD OR IF WE WANNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THERE. TAKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO KIND OF PUT THAT TOGETHER. BUT THAT'S ONE OPTION. AND THEN THE FOURTH OPTION IS A NEW, AN ENTIRELY NEW BOARD OR COMMISSION. YES, HIT THE BUTTON. AN ENTIRELY NEW BOARD OR COMMISSION. THIS IS THE HEAVIEST STRUCTURE. BE POSTING MEETINGS, MINUTES AGENDAS, MEMBER ONBOARDING. IT'D BE THE SLOWEST TO STAND UP. IT WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL APPOINTMENT AND BYLAWS ADOPTION. I'M GONNA GO THROUGH SOME MORE HERE. UM, THERE WOULD BE OPEN QUESTIONS LIKE, WHO SELECTS THE CHAIR, THE LEAD, IS IT A COUNCIL APPOINTED CMO DESIGNATION? ARE DISAGREEMENTS RESOLVED RATHER THAN MINORITY? SIMPLY OUTVOTED? WHAT BYLAWS OR CHARTER LANGUAGE WOULD APPLY AND HOW WOULD THEY BE ADOPTED? AND THEN HOW IS THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE ORGANIZATION CHOSEN? SO I'LL GO BACK A FEW 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING BRINGING FORWARD IS, IS THESE FIVE OPTIONS. YOU ASK US TO BRING OPTIONS. THESE ARE THE FIVE, THE SOCIAL SERVICES ROUNDTABLE, EXPANDING ON THE EXISTING BOARD, THE CMO TASK FORCE, A NEW BOARD OR COMMISSION OR TO TWEAK WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, UM, WITH, WITH OUR SOCIAL SERVICE WORKERS. SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION COMMITTEE. SO I LIKE OPTION THREE. UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS THE MOST LOGICAL, UM, BUT ALSO GIVES US SOME WIGGLE ROOM, UM, AS FAR AS THE MISSION OF, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE INVOLVED. UM, NOW I WILL SAY, I THINK INDIVIDUALLY A LOT OF THESE ARE GREAT OPTIONS, LIKE THE FIRST TWO, I LOVE THOSE. BUT, UM, WE DON'T WANNA FOCUS JUST ON SOCIAL SERVICES. AND THEN EXPANDING EXISTING BOARD. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW SOME OF OUR EXISTING BOARDS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO, UM, WE DON'T WANNA ADD CHAOS TO CHAOS . UM, AND SO, AND ALSO THE, THE, THE PROCESS OF DOING A NEW BOARDING COMMISSION IS A LENGTHY ONE AND IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO WAIT SIX MONTHS STAGNANT ON IT WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING, UM, HAMMERED OUT. SO I LIKE OPTION THREE, THAT IT'S A FORMAL, YET INFORMAL, UM, IT'S LIKE SUNDAY BEST, YOU KNOW, NOT BLACK TIE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SUNDAY BEST. UM, AND THEN 'CAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD, IT WOULD BE AN INSTANT, YOU KNOW, MAKE A COUPLE CALLS, MEET US ON TUESDAY AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GET ROLLING WITH, WITH, WITH THE MISSION. SO I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF OPTION THREE. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE ALTERNATIVE. THEY TRULY GIVE US A LOT OF INSIGHT INTO DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN GO ABOUT RESOLVING OR BRINGING ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS TASK FORCE. AT THE SAME TIME, UH, I'M, I'M KIND OF A PROPONENT, YOU, YOU BROUGHT IT OUT OF LESS GOVERNMENT IN SOME INSTANCES. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE MD AND HEALTH PATHWAY SITUATION, THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY COULD, BUT, UH, I COULD NOT IN GOOD CONSCIOUS GO WITH IT AS A RESULT OF, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I JUST DON'T FEEL GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED. THIS ONE IS ONE THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED WITH. BUT BE CAREFUL OF HOW, WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, BEING A PASTOR OF A CHURCH FOR 20 CHURCHES, FOR 20 COMMUNITY AND WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT, BUT I DO KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I OBSERVED. YOU BROUGHT THOSE THINGS. ORGANIZATIONS, THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO IT THEIR WAY. THEY, [00:25:01] THEY HAVE THEIR, THEY HAVE AN APPROACH AND UH, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LEADERSHIP AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN THOUGHTS. THAT'S WHY WE GOT A CHURCH ON EVERY CORNER. AND, UH, WHEN YOU BEGAN TO TRY AND BRING THEM TOGETHER TO STRUCTURE THEM, GIVE THEM, UH, SOME TYPE OF DEADLINES, AND THIS IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO MEET AND THIS IS STRUCTURE AND THIS IS WHO'S GOING TO LEAD AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS THAT COULD EVER HAVE HAPPENED. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT GOD DID MAKE VERSE TO ALLOW FOR THE DIFFERENT. AND SO I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN THAT NUMBER THREE DOES APPEAR TO ME TO BE SWAY TO GO ABOUT IT. I MIGHT JUST ADD THIS CAVEAT. UH, I RECALL WHEN I CAME AND WENT THROUGH THE CITIZENS POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND OUT THAT WAS TAKING PLACE ON A MONTHLY BASIS, THE CHIEF OF POLICE AT THAT TIME, GOD BLESS HIS HEART, GOD BLESS HIS SOUL. WHO WAS THAT IT. WELL, I, I CAME IN UNDER A TRANSITION. I CAME IN UNDER ONE, WHICH WAS, UH, MITCH. YEAH, WITH MITCH. AND YOU WERE, WERE COMING IN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT, AND THIS WAS DURING THE TIME ALSO, THAT THAT SITUATION HAD OCCURRED WHERE, UH, THE GUY CHOKED HIM OUT AND HE HAD DIED. BIG BACKLASH ON IT. AND, UH, I COME TO FIND OUT, 'CAUSE I KEPT THINKING, WHY AREN'T SOME OF THIS STUFF HAPPENING HERE IN GARLAND? I MEAN, THERE WERE MASS PROTESTS TAKING PLACE. AND WHAT I COME TO FIND OUT WAS THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE WAS MEETING NOT JUST THE CHIEF OF POLICE, BUT THE CITY MANAGER WERE MEETING ONCE A MONTH OR WHATEVER IT WAS WITH NAACP, AFA, LULAC, AND ALL OF THE CITIZENS ADVOCACY GROUPS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNEW IT OR NOT, BUT THAT WAS BEING VERY PROACTIVE. WHAT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO, IT ALLOWS YOU TO HEAR WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY. OUR GANG TASK FORCE WAS VERY PRONOUNCED AT THAT POINT, BUT THAT ALLOWED US TO KEEP AN EAR ON THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEN WE HEARD SOMETHING WAS TAKING PLACE, WE COULD GET TO IT BEFORE. I THINK THAT THAT'S THE WAY GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED. THAT IS THESE INSTITUTIONS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WAY OF GOING ABOUT DOING WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO AT LEAST COME TOGETHER, TELL US WHAT OUR PROBLEMS ARE, AND WE ARE IN A POSITION TO BE PROACTIVE IN TERMS OF THAT. AND I THINK THAT THE CMO APPROACH, WHICH CERTAINLY LEND ITSELF TO OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING, DON'T THINK IT'S WHERE WE GO. BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN IS GOD KNOWS WE GOT ENOUGH TO DO ALREADY AND WE ALSO HAVE ENOUGH ORGANIZATIONS IN PLACE ALREADY. UH, IF YOU'RE RIGHT, HALF OF 'EM DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR MISSION IS, DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING. BUT THERE ARE VOLUNTEERS TOO, AND TAKE ON THIS TYPE OF AN ASSIGNMENT. I'M NOT SO CERTAIN THAT WE WANNA ENHANCE THEM WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THE MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION WOULD BE NOT FOR SOMETHING. SO I SAY ALL THAT JUST TO SAY THERE WAS A LONG WAY OF GETTING THERE. I THINK THAT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN DUTTON HAS NUMBER THREE FOR I AGREE. OPTION THREE IS MY PREFERENCE AS WELL. UM, I THINK THAT WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE PREVIOUSLY WITH THIS, UM, THIS PROGRAM HERE IS AMAZING. AND, UM, I MEAN, THIS COULD ALL BE ADDED TO WHAT WE WANT, BUT I THINK FOR ME, THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO, UM, TO ENHANCE AND ACHIEVE THE VISION OF GARLAND ON THE RISE AND TO ADD SERVICES THAT REALLY WILL GO OUT AND HELP PEOPLE THROUGH GARLAND CARES AND, UM, ENHANCE THAT PROGRAM. I'M WORKING WITH SEVERAL ENGAGEMENT GROUPS AT THE ALLEN CHAMBER, AND ONE OF THOSE IS A NONPROFIT INDUSTRY COUNCIL. AND OUR FIRST MEETING IS JUST TO MATCH BUSINESSES WITH NONPROFITS WHO NEEDS BOARD MEMBERS, WHO NEEDS HOURS FROM EMPLOYEES, WHO NEEDS, UM, MONEY, WHO NEEDS, YOU KNOW, JUST PEOPLE THERE TO, TO HELP THEM HAND OUT FOOD KINDS OF THINGS. AND ESTABLISHING WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE BUSINESSES ARE AND WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE NONPROFITS ARE SO THAT WE CAN REALLY JUST CREATE GOOD MATCHES AND THEY, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE SAME VISION AND, UM, MAKE THOSE CONNECT, HELP THEM MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS THAT THEY'RE OTHERWISE NOT ABLE TO MAKE. SO, [00:30:01] UM, I THINK THAT IS A, A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO START. AND REALLY, I GUESS THE, THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE MATCHING TO IS THE CITY OF GARLAND AND TRYING TO FIND THOSE NONPROFITS THAT ARE WILLING TO HELP AND WHAT EACH OF THEM ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE OR, UM, WHAT THEY NEED FROM US SO THAT WE CAN HELP THEM PROVIDE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED. IT'S ALL A, A BIG CIRCLE. WELL, I TRIED TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION NEUTRALLY MM-HMM . BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT OPTION THREE IS THE, IS THE OPTION THAT, THAT I THINK IS THE RIGHT OPTION BECAUSE, UH, I THINK IF YOU GET TOO FORMAL AND ACT AS IF YOU'RE DIRECTING THESE GROUPS, I THINK WE'RE GONNA LOSE THEM. BUT IF WE CAN DO IT ON A RELATIONSHIP BASIS, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A POSITIVE. I ALSO KNOW THAT, THAT ANDY AND CMO HAS ASKED FOR THIS TASK TO GO TO HIM. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. , I, I'VE I'VE, I'VE SPENT A LONG TIME WITH THESE VOLUNTEER GROUPS. I I KNOW MOST OF THEIR LEADERS, SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, TO HELP TACKLE THIS. I JUST WANTED TO, YEAH. MM-HMM . SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS, AND, AND WHEN WE DISCUSS THIS INTERNALLY AND, AND, UM, MY, MY IDEA WITH RESPECT TO THE CMO TASK FORCE WAS VERY SIMILAR IN TERMS OF ITS FIRST DELIVERABLE TO WHAT JEFF HAS DONE HERE, BUT BEYOND JUST SOCIAL SERVICES. THAT IS, IS LET'S FIND OUT WHO THEY ALL ARE AND GET A DIRECTORY OF THEM SO WE KNOW HERE'S THE LIST OF THEM, AND THEN, AND THEN TRY TO HAVE A QUARTERLY ROUND TABLE AND GET THEM ALL TOGETHER IN A ROOM WHERE WE JUST SAY, HEY, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT ISSUES YOU'RE HAVING, PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING. AND AND MAYBE AFTER THAT, HAVE A, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO THAT QUARTERLY AND, AND JUST SET OUT THE IDEA TO THEM THAT, THAT WE'VE, HERE'S WHAT THE CITY, UH, NEEDS ARE UNDER OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. IS THERE A WAY THAT CAN BE HELPED? IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN HELP YOU COORDINATE WITH ONE ANOTHER EVEN ON THINGS BEYOND THAT? AND MAYBE ALSO THEN SET UP A DAY WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME PLACES HAVE LIKE VOLUNTEER DAY WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS IN ONE PLACE, AND YOU CAN GO FROM TABLE TO TABLE PEOPLE WHO WANNA VOLUNTEER AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S 70 ORGANIZATIONS. AND YOU GO AND TALK TO THEM. THEY HAVE ALL THE LITERATURE OUT AND THEY SIGN PEOPLE UP. AND JUST TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE OF, OF THAT TYPE OF WORK. UH, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY THAT I ENVISIONED IT. IT'S KIND OF A NOTHING FORMAL WHERE THE GOVERNMENT'S TELLING THEM ANYTHING, BUT JUST LIKE THE, THE COMMUNITY LEADERS GROUP WHERE WE JUST SIT AND TALK AND GET TO KNOW THEM. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THAT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS, IS WHAT YOU SAID, UH, MR. MOORE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, WHEN THAT INCIDENT HAPPENED AND THERE WAS PROTESTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS AND SAY, HEY, 'CAUSE WE KNOW THEM, BECAUSE WE INTERACT WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND THE SAME WOULD BE TRUE FOR VOLUNTEER SITUATIONS. IF WE ENDED UP WITH A SITUATION WHERE WE SAW, HERE'S A FAMILY A NEED, HERE'S SOMEBODY WHO'S STRUGGLING, ONE OF OUR EFAS OR ONE OF THE PLACES WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO, IN OUR LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS, WE'RE TRYING TO LIFT PEOPLE UP, SAY, HEY, LET ME PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL ONE OF THESE VOLUNTEER GROUPS AND SAY, HEY, YOU WANNA REACH OUT TO THEM? I DON'T WANNA BE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, BUT WE HAVE A FAMILY AND WE HAVE A, A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY NEEDS HELP AND BE ABLE TO JUST HAVE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MICHAEL GARRETT REALLY WELL. UH, AND THAT'S ONE, BUT THAT'S ONE. THERE'S A HUNDRED CHARITIES IN THIS TOWN. I MEAN, I KNOW, UH, A DOZEN OF THEM AND THERE'S PROBABLY A HUNDRED OF THEM BETWEEN THE CHURCHES AND THE OTHER CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS. AND IF WE ASSEMBLED THE MULTI AND START ESTABLISH THESE RELATIONSHIPS, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, REALLY HELPFUL. AND IT'S A MUCH LIGHTER TOUCH THEN AND LESS GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT. AND SO, UH, I THINK I CAN COME BACK. I CAN EITHER COME BACK OR, OR I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT US TO CLOSE THIS ONE OUT. I CAN COME BACK WITH LIKE A ONE SHEETER OF HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA, HERE'S WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, IT'S BE MUCH WHAT I SAID HERE. HERE'S WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK TO COUNCIL OR HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO FORMULA, THERE'S NO RESOLUTION INVOLVED OR, OR ANYTHING ELSE. JUST ONCE IT'S GOING MM-HMM . WE CAN DO JUST A, I CAN HAVE A, A BRIEFING TO COUNCIL. YES, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. JUST WHAT WE WORKED ON. UM, ABSOLUTELY. AND JUST TO KIND OF EXPAND ON WHAT YOU SAID IS, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO KNOW PEOPLE AND EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT TALENT OR A DIFFERENT THING, A DIFFERENT PASSION, EVEN OUTSIDE OF YOUR CHURCH OR YOUR COUNSELOR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS THAT EVEN SITTING NEXT TO SOMEONE YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT THEIR SKILLS ARE, WHAT THEIR PASSION IS, WHAT THEIR, YOU KNOW, LIKE SITTING NEXT TO ME, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT MY GARAGE IS FULL OF THINGS FOR WHEN SOMEONE HAS A, A FIRE OR WE HAVE GOT AN UNHOUSED PERSON THAT IS ABLE TO GET INTO HOUSING. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FURNISH AT LEAST 20 DIFFERENT PEOPLE INTO THAT TRANSITION FOR THEM SO THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. UM, AND SO, BUT THAT'S, [00:35:01] IT'S, IT'S JUST LIKE MY LITTLE THING. I LIKE DOING THAT. AND PEOPLE WILL, I'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAVE GOTTEN MARRIED AND THEY'VE HAD A STORAGE UNIT TOGETHER OF THEIR CUMULATIVE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THEY WEREN'T TAKING INTO THEIR NEW SHARED HOUSE. PEOPLE HAVE COME AND DUMPED AN ENTIRE STORAGE FACILITY ON MY, ON MY DRIVEWAY. AND IT WAS JUST A BUNCH OF HOUSEHOLD STUFF THAT IT WAS FINE. NO ONE, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST DIDN'T NEED IT. 'CAUSE NOW THEY'VE GOT THREE. AND SO, UM, PEOPLE DROP THINGS OFF ON MY PORCH ALL THE TIME. MICHAEL GARRETT IS A GREAT RESOURCE, BUT HE IS VERY, VERY STRICT ON, YOU HAVE TO BE THIS PERSON TO GET THE HELP YOU HAVE. WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS. WELL, WHICH IS GREAT. I LOVE, HE IS VERY SELF-DISCIPLINED ON HOW HE RUNS HIS BUSINESS. AND, BUT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T FIT IN THAT, IN THAT REALM, YOU KNOW? AND SO IF I KNOW LIKE, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, SO AND SO OVER HERE IS, HAS, HAS BABY STUFF, UM, WE CAN CALL THEM OR, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST HAVING LIKE THAT LITTLE ROLODEX OF, OF PEOPLE, MAYBE YOU'VE GOT SOME ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT THEY, THEY DON'T WANNA SIT AT HOME ALL DAY, BUT THEY REALLY LOVE SHREDDING PAPER. WELL GUESS WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF PAPER TO SHRED. YOU KNOW, SO JUST KIND OF REALLY CONNECTING THOSE DOTS BETWEEN US AND THEM. AND WE'RE NOT HERE TO TELL ANYBODY WHAT TO DO, BUT WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW IT TAKES THE TRIBE AND WE GET IT. AND WE WOULD LIKE, IF WE WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO BENEFIT FROM THAT TRIBE. AND SO I'M EXCITED TOO. OKAY. VERY GOOD. WELL, UM, THIS IS READY TO REPORT OUT TO COUNCIL. UM, I THINK AND AN UPDATE. WE'RE READY TO GIVE ONE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT LEADS US TO ITEM FOUR, ADJOURN. IT IS 5 37. THAT'S MY FAVORITE. THE FAVORITE ONE. WAITING FOR ITEM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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