[00:00:21] SPECIAL EARLY SATURDAY MORNING WORK SESSION, SPECIAL MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS SATURDAY, JULY 25TH, 2026. OUR FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. [ PUBLIC COMMENTS ] MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, MISS CHRISTIE DAVIS. JUST SIT DOWN IN FRONT, PLEASE. JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHRISTIE DAVIS. I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF GARLAND. I USED TO REFER TO AS THE GREAT CITY OF GARLAND. BUT I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS, WHICH IS WHY I'M HERE ON A BEAUTIFUL SATURDAY MORNING. WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT BUDGETS TODAY. AND MY. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT BUDGETS TODAY. I WANT TO JUST GIVE A QUICK DEFINITION. BUDGET IS A PLAN FOR THE COORDINATION OF RESOURCES AND EXPENDITURES. IT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR OR ASSIGNED TO A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. SO THE CITY OF GARLAND HAS BEEN. UNFORTUNATELY DECLINING. I DON'T WANT OUR CITY TO END UP LIKE SALINA. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, AND I'M AFRAID GARLAND IS GOING TO FAIL. I LOVE THIS CITY. I GREW UP HERE. MANY OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS STILL LIVE HERE, BUT I'M NOT HAPPY HERE AND RESIDENTS AREN'T HAPPY HERE. WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE OVERTAXED. WE FEEL LIKE OUR UTILITY BILLS ARE EXCESSIVE, AND WE KNOW WE'RE NOT UTILIZING THE AMOUNT ON THE UTILITY. WE SEE THAT YOU WANT TO ADD ANOTHER $8 PER MONTH FOR WATER. WE REALIZE THAT BILLS GO UP. THEY'RE GOING UP FOR EVERYBODY, BUT ADDING ANOTHER $8 IS GOING TO HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE AND SEND A LOT OF PEOPLE AWAY, PARTICULARLY. AND MOST IMPORTANT TO US WOULD BE BUSINESSES. BUSINESSES DON'T WANT TO BUILD HERE. THEY DON WANT TO COME HERE. WE'RE GETTING THINGS ALL OVER OUR CITIES AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THEM HERE. RICHARDSON GETS NEW THINGS. WILEY GETS NEW THINGS. GARLAND IS NOT GETTING THEM. WHY YOU ASK? WELL, I TALKED TO MANY BUSINESS OWNERS AS I'M A BUSINESS OWNER. AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS GARLAND IS NOT CONSIDERED TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY. A LOT OF BUSINESSES FEEL LIKE GARLAND IS A GLORIFIED HOA, THAT THE WHOLE CITY IS CONTROLLED BY. WE HAVE NO CHOICE HERE. OUR RESIDENTS. WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO USE GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT. WE SHOULD HAVE SOME CHOICES NOT OPPOSED TO GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT, BUT THERE SHOULD BE SOME OTHER OFFERINGS. IT SHOULDN'T BE A MONOPOLY. I DON'T WANT US TO GO LIKE SALINA. YOU KNOW, SALINA IS A BEAUTIFUL CITY BUILT BEAUTIFULLY. LOTS OF LAND. LOVELY. NO BUSINESSES ARE BUILDING THERE EITHER. THEY BUILT SO MANY HOMES, THEY CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO MOVE THERE. THEY'RE NOT EVEN LOOKING. NOBODY'S LOOKING HERE EITHER. WE HAD WE JUST HAD THE THE WONDERFUL WORLD CUP. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME TO GARLAND? VERY FEW CAME TO ANY OF OUR BUSINESSES HERE. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO OFFER? WE CAN'T GET BUSINESSES HERE. AND PART OF IT IS OUR BUDGET. WE'RE NOT DIRECTING OUR RESOURCES WISELY. I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU TO SUM UP, MA'AM. WE'RE NOT. WE NEED TO DIRECT OUR RESOURCES MORE WISELY. OKAY. ONE OF GARLAND'S GOALS IS TO BE GOOD STEWARDS, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT BEING GOOD STEWARDS HERE. AND WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK CAREFULLY INTO THIS BECAUSE I WANT GARLAND TO THRIVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. DO YOU HAVE ANY [1. Overview of the FY 2026-27 Proposed Budget and Navigating the Budget Document Presentation] OTHER SPEAKERS? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. IT'S OVERVIEW OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 627. PROPOSED BUDGET AND NAVIGATING THE BUDGET DOCUMENT PRESENTATION. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, I'M ALISON STEADMAN. I'M THE CITY'S CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. I'M JOINED UP HERE BY FAHAD KADIR, OUR BUDGET MANAGER. WE'LL QUICKLY JUST OUTLINE OUR AGENDA FOR THE DAY, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. AND [00:05:04] THEN I'LL INVITE OUR CITY MANAGER, MIKE BETTS, TO WALK THROUGH HIS PRIORITIES FOR THIS BUDGET. BEFORE WE START GOING INTO MORE OF THE DETAILS. MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC OF THE THREE PRIORITIES THAT I HAD FOR THE BUDGET THAT I PROPOSED TO THE COUNCIL. THE FIRST PRIORITY WAS THAT WE NOT USE ONE TIME MONEY TO SOLVE SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL FINANCIAL PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. AS YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE HAVE AS A RESULT OF SENATE BILL, TWO STRUCTURAL FINANCIAL PROBLEMS THAT THE INFLATION. FOR THE THINGS THAT WE BUY AS A CITY, THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, EMPLOYEE COSTS, THE FIRE TRUCKS, THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT WE BUY TO FIX OUR ROADS AND TO MAINTAIN OUR PARKS HAS ALL GONE UP AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE OF INFLATION THAN THE 3.5% CAP THAT THE LEGISLATURE SETS. AS A RESULT, WE HAVE A STRUCTURAL MISMATCH BETWEEN THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE COLLECT AS INFLATION OCCURS AND THE INFLATION THAT WE'RE EXPOSED TO. I HAVE RECOMMENDED TO THE COUNCIL, AND I'LL RECOMMEND AGAIN THIS MORNING THAT WE NOT USE ONE TIME MONEY TO SOLVE THAT STRUCTURAL FINANCIAL GAP, BECAUSE IT IS A GAP THAT IS COMPOUNDING AND GROWING OVER TIME. AND ONE TIME MONEY WILL SIMPLY SOFTEN THE BLOW FOR A YEAR OR TWO, BUT WON'T SOLVE THE WON'T SOLVE THE LONGER TERM PROBLEM. AND MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL IS THAT WE USE THAT ONE TIME MONEY TO. IN FACT, IMPLEMENT THE GARLAND ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO IMPROVE THE CORRIDORS AND IMPROVE THE ECONOMIC FOCUS AREAS SO THAT WE CAN OBTAIN HIGHER LEVELS OF SALES AND COMMERCIAL TAX BY ATTRACTING BUSINESSES HERE AND BY MAINTAINING OUR CORRIDO AND REDUCE THE BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS. AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION AND MY FIRST BUDGET PRIORITY IN PRESENTING THIS BUDGET IS THAT WE NOT USE ONE TIME MONEY TO SOLVE THOSE STRUCTURAL GAPS. THE SECOND PRIORITY I HAVE IS, AS I MENTIONED TO THE COUNCIL I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, HERE WE HAVE A WAGE GAP PROBLEM IN THAT WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THE SALARIES IN OUR JOB CLASSIFICATIONS SINCE 2018. A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE 2018 AND WAGES HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN THE MARKET. THE THERE IS A NOTION THAT THE CITY SETS WAGES AND IT'S NOT REALLY TRUE. THE CITY FACES WAGES THAT ARE SET BY THE MARKET. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A WAG THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ATTRACT EMPLOYEES, WE END UP WITH FEWER EMPLOYEES THAN WE NEED. AND THERE ARE DEPARTMENTS WHERE A QUARTER OF THE POSITIONS ARE CURRENTLY VACANT IN SERVICES THAT WE DEPEND ON AND OUR RESIDENTS DEPEND ON ON, AND THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO OUR RESIDENTS, SUCH AS STREETS AND PARKS AND SOME OF THE OTHER POSITIONS. POLICE AND FIRE POSITIONS OVER THE YEARS HAVE BEEN KEPT AT MARKET BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE WE WON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE AND FIRE, BUT WE DIDN'T DO THAT SAME THING FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER CLASSIFICATIONS, AND NOW WE'RE UNABLE TO ATTRACT EMPLOYEES TO SOME OF THOSE JOBS. AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE BEGIN SOLVING THAT IN THIS BUDGET BEFORE THE PROBLEM BECOMES SO LARGE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT EMPLOYEES TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE COME TO. I'M SORRY THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE COME TO EXPECT. THE THIRD PRIORITY I HAVE IS THAT THE BUDGET DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS BUDGET SHOULD CONNECT IN SOME WAY TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. AS YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN AN ATTEMPT TO SOLVE SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL FISCAL PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED BY SENATE BILL TWO AND BY THE LONG TERM DECLINE IN OUR LONGER TERM DECLINE IN OUR HOUSING AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE HAVE ATTEMPTED IN THIS BUDGET TO CONNECT THE DOLLARS BACK TO THE PLAN, AND I WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL, IN ADOPTING THE BUDGET TO FOLLOW THE STRATEGIC PLAN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS IS THAT THE STRATEGY THAT WE ADOPT FOLLOWS THE BUDGET. THAT IS, IF WE ADOPT THE SAME BUDGET WE ADOPTED LAST YEAR, AND WE EXPECT SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR, THAT WOULD BE ABSURD, BECAUSE THE HOW WE BUDGET TELLS US HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACT, AND THAT WE SHOULD TIE THE MONEY IN THE B BUDGETACK TO THE PLAN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WITH RESPECT TO ONE TIME MONEY, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS POINT. AND THAT IS THERE'S A GOOD USE FOR ONE TIME MONEY. A GOOD USE FOR ONE TIME MONEY IS TO FUND THE STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING FOR THE FUTURE TO, TO GROW US OUT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE [00:10:05] HAVE FISCALLY. AS A RESULT OF WHAT I'VE SAID EARLIER. THE SECOND REASON WE NEED TO RESERVE ONE TIME MONEY IS FOR LEGISLATIVE RISK. THE LEGISLATURE EVERY YEAR IMPOSES MORE UNFUNDED MANDATES ON THE CITY AND RESTRICTIONS ON THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE CAN USE IN DIFFERENT WAYS. HAVING ONE TIME MONEY AVAILABLE TO BRIDGE GAPS FOR PROBLEMS CREATED THROUGH LEGISLATIVE AND ACTIONS IN AUSTIN WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY. AND THE THIRD REASON WE NEED TO SAVE ONE TIME MONEY IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD A RECESSION IN SOME TIME. IF WE WERE TO HAVE A RECESSION AND WE HAD AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, ONE TIME MONEY WOULD BE USED. AND IT'S A PERFECT USE FOR ONE TIME. MONEY IS TO BRIDGE A GAP CAUSED BY A ONE TIME RECESSION SO THAT RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE LOWER SERVICES. AND, AND GET THE SERVICES THEY COME TO EXPECT, EVEN IF WE FACE A RECESSION. AND THE WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IS BY RESERVING THE MONEY THAT YOU HAVE. THAT'S FOR ONE TIME USE FOR THOSE TYPES OF ONE TIME USES. AGAIN, THIS IS THE GENERAL SCHEDULE WAGE GAP I TALKED ABOUT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE IT THIS YEAR. THE TOTAL THE TOTAL SIZE OF THAT PROBLEM IS BETWEEN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3 AND $6 MILLION. WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVING INTERNALLY MEETINGS AND ANALYZING THE WAGE SCHEDULES AND MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS TO FIND OUT WHICH POSITIONS ARE UNABLE TO BE FILLED BECAUSE THE THE SALARIES THAT WE OFFER DON'T GET US ANY APPLICANTS. AND WE'RE TRYING TO ANALYZE THE TOTAL MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM. WE'RE NOT PUTTING 63 TO $6 MILLION IN IT THIS YEAR. WE'RE PUTTING ABOUT $1 MILLION INTO IT THIS YEAR TO TRY TO SOLVE THAT. BUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3 AND $6 MILLION INTO SOLVING THIS WAGE PROBLEM. AND AGAIN, IF WE DON'T IF WE DON'T, THE RESULT OF THAT WILL BE THERE'LL BE DEPARTMENTS WHO ARE UNDERSTAFFED BY 25, 30, 40, 50% OF THEIR EMPLOYEES. AND THAT IMPACTS COULD IMPACT OUR RESIDENTS AND THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO GET ROAD PROJECTS DONE IN THE TIME THAT WE WANT TO, AND TO GET TRASH PICKED UP TIMELY, AND TO GET SEWER PROJECTS AND FLOODING PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, STREET PROJECTS AND STREET DRAINAGE PROJECTS DONE MORE QUICKLY, THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE A PROBLEM AND THEY WANT THEM RESOLVED QUICKLY. WELL, THAT'S DIFFICULT TO DO WHEN YOU'RE SHORT OF EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE SHORT OF EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THE MARKET WON'T GIVE US EMPLOYEES FOR THE WAGE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO PAY. AGAIN, THE MARKET SETS THE WAGES. THE CITY IS A TAKER OF WAGES. WE LOOK OUT AND DECIDE HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WE NEED, AND WE T A WAGE. AND IF WE DON'T GET THAT MANY EMPLOYEES, YOU HAVE TO SET A HIGHER WAGE. AND SO THOSE ARE MY BUDGET PRIORITIES. AND PUTTING THIS PRIORITY AND PUTTING THIS BUDGET. THE LAST ONE, THE LAST ONE IS THAT, AS I SAID EARLIER, EVERY DOLLAR CONNECT TO THE PLAN. AND NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT CORE SERVICES. YOU SEE THAT WE DO THAT THROUGH THE ADDITION OF NINE FIREFIGHTERS AND OVERTIME ADJUSTMENTS UNDER THE BUDGET. WE HAVE TEN ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS AND FOUR VEHICLES FOR THE BUDGET. WE HAVE EIGHT EMERGENCY SERVICE DISPATCHERS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS ALL THE TIME IS THEY DIAL 911 AND THEY'RE ON HOLD. WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER DISPATCHERS WE PROBABLY NEED IN CITY THIS SIZE. AND SO WE'RE ASKING THAT WE ADD THAT TO THE BUDGET. WE'RE GOING TO FUND SURF AND SWIM AS AN ONGOING EXPENSE. IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR, TO BE ABLE TO OPEN SURF AND SWIM, WE HAD TO USE ONE TIME MONEY. WE NEED TO PROTECT THAT CORE SERVICE BY BY FUNDING THAT AS AN ONGOING EXPENSE. AND WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT CORE SERVICES BY ADDING LIBRARY RESOURCES SO THAT THE LIBRARIES THAT WE BUILT HAVE BOOKS AND MODERN BOOKS AND THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO RUN. WE'RE GOING TO ACCELERATE REDEVELOPMENT. THERE'S A $5 MILLION ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN OUR ECONOMIC FOCUS AREAS. AS I AS WE DISCUSSED DURING THE GIRL ON THE RYE STRATEGIC PLAN, THERE WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS IN SOME OF THESE CORRIDORS AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT WE WILL GO OUT AND USE THIS MONEY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE STREETSCAPES, MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE CORRIDOR AND ENTRYWAYS, AND TO USE SOME OF THAT FUNDING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS FOR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE LONG TERM CODE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE UNABLE TO SOLVE, BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY ARE EITHER PHYCALLY UNABLE TO OR FINANCIALLY UNABLE TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS. WE WILL USE SOME OF THAT MONEY TO ASSIST THEM WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, SO THAT THEY CAN GO OUT AND IDENTIFY THESE PLACES. AS WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WITH RESPECT TO CODE, THERE'S THERE'S SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT THINKING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HEAVIER HANDED. THAT'S NOT IN FACT, THE CASE. THE CASE IS WE'RE GOING TO BE USING CODE ENFORCEMENT TO IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE UNABLE TO MAKE THEIR REPAIRS THAT THEY NEED TO THEIR HOMES, AND UNABLE TO MAKE THE CODE [00:15:04] IMPROVEMENTS THEY NEED TO MAKE SO THAT WE CAN DIVERT THEM INTO A PROGRAM TO TRY TO HELP THEM BRING THEIR PROPERTIES UP TO A MINIMUM CODE STANDARD SO THAT THE THE LONG TERM DECLINE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS DRIVING SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS FROM SITING HERE AND SITING THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES WE WANT HERE. AND WE'RE USING CODE IN THAT WAY. AND WE NEED ADDITIONAL CODE OFFICERS FOR THAT. WE'RE EXPANDING NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY BECAUSE THOSE FUNDS WILL BE USED TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS ESSENTIAL TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL AS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE ARE USED DIRECTLY IN THOSE ECONOMIC FOCUS AREAS AND OTHER PLACES AROUND THE CITY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH DIRECTLY IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO BE FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL IN ATTRACTING BUSINESSES AND TRYING TO SHIFT THE TAX BURDEN FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO COMMERCIAL AND SALES TAX BUSINESSES. THE THE NEXT THING WE'RE DOING IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO BE GOOD STEWARDS. IF YOU RECALL, ONE OF THE PILLARS OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP. THAT MEANS THAT WE TRY TO CUT EVERY PLACE WE CAN. YOU'LL SEE THAT WE CUT $1.1 MILLION OUT OF THE BASE BUDGET THIS YEAR. WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BE BETTER STEWARDRDS.E'RE TRYING TO RECOGNIZE WE'VE GOT TO RESERVE FUNDS, AND WE'VE TO DO THAT. WE'VE ELIMINATED LOW IMPACT VACANCIES. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS IF THERE ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNFILLED THAT THE CITY CAN SAY, WELL, WE CAN STILL PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICES WITHOUT THESE POSITIONS, EVEN IF IT MEANS OTHER PEOPLE MAY HAVE TO WORK HARDER, EVEN IF IT MEANS WE HAVE TO CHANGE HOW WE PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. WE CAN ELIMINE THOSE POSITIONS AND SAVE MONEY. AN IMPORTANT ITEM ON HERE IS ENHANCED RESERVES. AS I MENTIONED, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH RESPECT TO FINANCIAL SERVICE FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP ISAINTAINING ADEQUATE RESERVES. WE NEED TO ENHANCE OUR RESERVES AS A RESULT OF THE POTENTIAL LEGISLATIVE RISK, AND WE NEED TO ENHANCE OUR RESERVES AS A RESULT OF THE FACT THAT THAT BECAUSE WE'RE IN A LONG TERM STRUCTURAL DECLINE, FISCAL DECLINE AS A RESULT OF THE SENATE BILL TWO GAP BETWEEN WHAT SENATE BILL TWO ALLOWS CITIES TO RAISE AS REVENUE AND WHAT INFLATION APPEARS TO US. IF WE HAVE RESERVES, THEN WE'RE BETTER ABLE TO NAVIGATE FUTURE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE AS WE GROW OUR WAY OUT OF THIS. AND SO IF WE SET MONEY ASIDE AND DON'T SPEND THIS YEAR THAT WE COULD OTHERWISE SPEND, IF WE SET THAT MONEY ASIDE THAT WE HAVE, THAT MEANS THAT NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT, WE CAN STILL KEEP OPEN SOME OF THE AMENITIES AND PROVIDE AMENITIES AND SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE COME TO EXPECT WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE DIFFICULT CHOICES. AND SO WHILE WE MAKE DIFFICULT CHOICES EVERY YEAR AND WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE DIFFICULT CHOICES TO MAKE UNTIL THE STRATEGIC PLAN STARTS BECOMING MORE SUCCESSFUL AND AND WE SEE RESULTS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS YEARS AWAY. THOSE RESERVES ARE GOING TO CUSHION THE BLOW FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND I WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL TO AVOID THE INCLINATION TO SPEND EVERY LAST PENNY WE HAVE, BUT INSTEAD TO KEEP MONEY IN RESERVE SO THAT WE HAVE RESERVES AVAILABLE. AS BUDGETS GET TIGHTER AND WE FACE GREATER INFLATION AND HAVE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS WITH THE SERVICES THAT THEY REQUIRE. AND THAT'S THOSE ARE MY BUDGET PRIORITIES AND WHAT I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER TODAY IN EXAMINING AND TALKING ABOUT AND THINKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, IS THAT'S THE PRIORITIES THAT I CAME FORWARD WITH IN MY OBLIGATION TO PRESENT A BUDGET TO THE COUNCIL. OF COURSE, THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, ULTIMATELY, THE BUDGET THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO ADOPT IS YOUR DECISION. MY JOB IS TO TO PROPOSE A BUDGET AND TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AND GIVE YOU MY BEST ADVICE ABOUT WHAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY'S GOING AND, AND THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE HERE THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO. MR. THANK YOU. WE'LL BRIEFLY GO OVER BECAUSE THIS PROPOSED BUDGET DOES CONSIDER OUR NEED FOR REBALANCING THE TAX RATE. AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, WE HAVE A MODEST PROPERTY TAX BASE. WE'RE 59.2 MILLION BELOW THE AVERAGE IN TERMS OF PROPERTY TAX BASE OF OUR PEER METROPLEX CITIES. THE COST TO DELIVER PUBLIC SAFETY IS GREATER THAN OUR PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX COMBINED. WE HAVE A HIGHER TAX RATE THAN OTHER PEER CITIES, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO GENERATE THE AMOUNT OF LOWER REVENUE WE HAVE THAN OUR OTHER PEER CITIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HIGHER TAX BASE, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE A LOWER RATE TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE. SB TWO CAP OF 3.5% EQUATES TO PROBABLY TWO APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION IN NEW PROPERTY TAX REVENUE EACH [00:20:01] YEAR. AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, THE 3% MERIT FOR GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEES COSTS ABOUT 5 MILLION. AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALIGN OUR CAPACITY FOR COUNCIL'S VIEW, AND WE CALL THEM 3% MERIT INCREASES. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GIVING EVERYBODY A RAISE FOR DOING A GOOD JOB. THE 3% MERIT INCREASE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE INFLATION THAT WE FACE, IS NOT REALLY A MERIT INCREASE. I MEAN, WE CALL IT A MERIT INCREASE. AND HR IS PROBABLY OVER THERE UPSET WITH ME FOR SAYING THIS, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TO KEEP US KEEP EMPLOYEES EVEN WITH INFLATION SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE MORE EMPLOYEES. BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE'RE A WAGE TAKER. WE FACE A MARKET THAT SETS A WAGE. AND IF YOU DON'T KEEP UP WITH INFLATION AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN OUR GENERAL SCHEDULE EMPLOYEES, AS I MENTIONED. BUT IF YOU DON'T DO THAT WITH OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND OUR GENERAL SCHEDULE EMPLOYEES, EVENTUALLY THEY LEAVE AND GO WORK FOR OTHER EMPLOYERS WHO PAY THEM AT A RATE THAT THE MARKET PAYS THEM. AND SO 3% JUST TO KEEP UP SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE EMPLOYEES EVERY YEAR AND NOT HAVE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES TO DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED, COST THE CITY $5 MILLION A YEAR, ADDITIONAL IN EVERY BUDGET YEAR. AND THAT'S A FACT THAT WE FACE. AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO GLOSS PAST THAT. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING ALLISON, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK, WELL, WE'RE JUST GETTING OUR EMPLOYEES BETTER OFF. THEY'RE THEY'RE ACTUALLY JUST STAYING EVEN AT A 3% WITH WHAT INFLATION THAT THEY FACE IS WHAT THEY FACE AS INFLATION IS LOWER THAN WHAT WE FACE AS A CITY BECSE THEY DON'T BUY HEAVY EQUIPMENT. WE BUY, YOU KNOW, FIRE TRUCKS. FIRE TRUCKS HAVE DOUBLED IN PRICE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. WE BUY HEAVY EQUIPMENT. THAT'S THAT'S GONE UP 100%. CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP PROBABLY 80 OR 100%. ANYBODY ASK ANYBODY IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, OUR YARD OF CONCRETE COMPARED TO 2018 IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN 50%. AND WE DON'T FACE THAT LEVEL FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. BUT THE CITY DOES. AND SO THE CITY, THE EMPLOYEES FACE AN INFLATION OF ABOUT 3%. IF YOU RECALL, THERE WERE YEARS WHERE THERE WAS NINE AND 10% INFLATION THAT THE ENTIRE ECONOMY FACED. OUR EMPLOYEES DURING THOSE TIMES GOT 3% RAISES, MEANING THEY ROWED BACKWARDS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. THE RAISES HAVE NOW ALMOST CAUGHT UP WITH WHERE THE INFLATION WAS NOT FOR OUR GENERAL SCHEDULE EMPLOYEES. AND THE REASON FOR OUR GENERAL SCHEDULE EMPLOYEES IS, QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S A COST THAT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO BEAR WITHOUT. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BRING THEM UP HERE TO IT. WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE A REDUCTION IN THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS, BUT WE NEED TO START FIXING THAT IN 3% MERIT GAP IS JUST TO KEEP FROM ROLLING FURTHER BACKWARDS EVERY YEAR, AND JUST TO KEEP FROM ROLLING BACKWARDS EVERY YEAR COSTS US $5 MILLION. I'M SORRY. NO PROBLEM. SO WITH THAT CONTEXT, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALIGN THE TAX RATE CAPACITY FROM OUR DEBT SERVICE OR INS PORTION OF THE TAX RATE OVER TO OUR GENERAL FUND OR O&M PORTION OF THE TAX RATE, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO FUND THE OPERATIONS OF AMENITIES CONSTRUCTED IN OUR BOND PROGRAMS, ENSURE LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR CORE SERVICES, AND MOVE AWAY FROM THE CAPITAL INTENSIVE INVESTMENTS THAT INCREASE OUR DAILY OPERATIONAL COSTS AND REALLY FOCUS ON THE INVESTMENTS AND REDEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT OF GARLAND, WHICH IS REALLY THE FOCUS OF OUR 2025 BOND PROGRAM AT 2025 BOND PROGRAM CAME OUT OF AN IDEA OF HOW WE CAN SOLVE GARLAND'S CHALLENGE. WE HAVE THAT MODEST PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX BASE. WE'RE 90 MILLION BELOW AVERAGE AND ANNUAL TAX REVENUE COMPARED TO OUR PEER CITIES. WE HAVE LOW POPULATION GROWTH COMPARED TO THOSE PEER CITIES, AND WE'RE LARGELY BUILT OUT. SO FUTURE REVENUE GROWTH WILL BE IMPORTANT TO SUSTAIN OUR CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MUST INCLUDE A FOCUS ON REDEVELOPMENT. AND WITHOUT THAT, SUFFICIENT REVENUE GROWTH FROM EITHER TAX RATE REBALANCING AND OR REDEVELOPMENT, THE FUTURE WILL HOLD CHALLENGING TRADE OFFS. AS WE TRY TO MEET OUR PRIORITIES. SO WITH THIS, THIS PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE ACTIONS OF THE COUNCIL IN THE COMING MEETINGS WILL BE A PROPOSAL TO REBALANCE THE TAX RATE. THIS WILL BE TO REDUCE OUR INS, OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE BY $0.04 WILL BE SHIFTING $0.03 OF THAT OVER TO OUR M AND O, OR THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THE TAX RATE. AND THEN WE'LL BE REDUCING THE OVERALL TAX RATE DOWN BY $0.01. SO YOU'LL SEE HERE IN 2019 2020, WE INCREASED OUR TAX RATE SIX AND A HALF CENTS FOR THE 2020 2019 BOND PROGRAM, SO THAT WE COULD CONSTRUCT MANY OF THOSE PARKS, STREET AND ANINIMAL SERVICES LIBRARY FACILITIES THAT HAD NOT BEEN INVESTED IN FOR OVER 25 YEARS. THAT BOND PROGRAM REALLY WORKED TO BRING THE CITY INTO THE MODERN ERA IN TERMS OF OUR FACILITIES AND THE SERVICES THEY CAN PROVIDE. WE'VE COME [00:25:06] THROUGH CONSTRUCTING MAJORITY OF THOSE FACILITIES, AND BASED ON PAYING DOWNWN TT DEBT AND OUR DEBT SERVICE STRATEGY, WE'RE ABLE TO COME BEFORE YOU WITH A REDUCTION OVERALL IN OUR TAX RATE. WHILE WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN AND FUND THE 2025 BOND PROGRAM, OUR STREET INVESTMENTS, ALL THE CURRENT CAPITAL PROJECTS, WHILE ALSO SHIFTING THAT $0.03 OVER TO THE GENERAL FUND PORTION TO CONTINUE TO FUND OUR CORE SERVICES AND MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE AND MAINTAIN THE SERVICES AT THOSE NEW AND EXPANDED FACILITIES FROM OUR 2020 2019 BOND PROGRAM. WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO FAHAD TO WALK US THROUGH THE PROPOSED BUDGET OVERVIEW. SO JUST AS A REMINDER, THE CITY HAS TWO PRIMARY BUDGETS, ONE BEING THE OPERATING BUDGET AND THE OTHER BEING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THE BUDGET WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY IS THE OPERATING BUDGET. TYPES OF EXPENDITURES ARE REOCCURRING. IT'S ON A FISCAL YEAR BASIS FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 30TH. THE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCES ARE TAXES AND FEES, AND THE FUNDING APPROPRIATION IS ANNUAL. THE OTHER TYPE OF BUDGET WE HAVE, WHICH WE'LL BE DISCUSSING LATER IN THE FALL, IS THE CIP, WHICH IS FOR ONE TIME ITEMS AND BOND PROGRAMS. IT'S ON A CALENDAR YEAR BASIS. THE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCE IS DEBT, AND THE APPROPRIATIONS ARE MULTI YEAR. LOOKING AT THE COMBINED BUDGET FOR THE PROPOSED BUDGET, IT IS ABOUT A TOTAL OF 1.0 BILLION. THIS IS A DECREASE OF 40.7 MILLION. THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THAT DECREASE IS THE SHIFT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. MOVING OVER TO THE CIP BUDGET, AS WELL AS A COMPLETION OF ARPA PROJECTS ON THE GENERAL FUND, WE'RE LOOKING AT 271.6 MILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 14.4 OF THAT, DUE TO ADDITIONALTION FUNDING CAPACITY WITH THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. LOOKING AT AN OVERVIEW OF THE GENERAL FUND RESOURCES, THE LARGEST IS PROPERTY TAX AT 89.9 OR 34%, SALES TAX AT 45.5 MILLION OR 17%. LANDFILL DISPOSAL FEES AT 25.8 MILLION OR 10%. THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF 27.9 MILLION, OR 10%, AND OTHER ASSOCIATED FEES OF OTHER OTHER REVENUE SOURCES OF 75.8 OR 29%, AND THE FOUR LARGEST OF THESE ACCOUNTING FOR 71% OF THE GENERAL FUND RESOURCES. LOOKING AT OUR PROPOSED EXPENDITURES, PUBLIC SAFETY ACCOUNTS FOR THE LARGEST PORTION OF THAT AT 52%, OR 141.5 MILLION. PUBLIC WORKS IS 14.5 MILLION, OR 5%. GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS 18.9 MILLION, OR 7%. NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOODS AND DEVELOPMENT 7.5 MILLION, OR 3%. CULTURE AND RECREATION AT 25.8 MILLION OR 10%. AND NON-DEPARTMENTAL AND SUPPORT SERVICES ARE 63.4 MILLION OR 23%. AND SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT FOR THAT, PUBLIC SAFETY COMPRISES ABOUT 52% OF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES, WHILE PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX COMBINED ARE 135.4 MILLION, OR 51%. SO PRETTY BREAK EVEN THERE. SO MOVING OVER TO OUR PROPERTY TAX BASE VALUES, WE DID RECEIVE CERTIFIED VALUES YESTERDAY. THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT YOU ALL HAVE REVIEWED IS BASED ON OUR PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES. WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE IMPACT OF THE CERTIFIED VALUES THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS. BUT WE'RE ON THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL TALK AT A HIGH LEVEL ABOUT WHAT THE CHANGE WAS. SO PRELIMINARY. PRELIMINARILY, WE WERE LOOKING AT A. TAX BASE OF 30.2 BILLION. CERTIFIED VALUES CAME IN HIGHER AT 3131 BILLION. LOOKING AT OUR NEW CONSTRUCTION, WE WERE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATING 470 MILLION CERTIFIED VALUES CAME IN AT 476 MILLION. THE NEW CONSTRUCTION LARGELY WAS IN THE TIFS AT 44%, AND NEW CONSTRUCTION IS BASED ON THESE. A LOT OF THOSE TIF ESTIMATES. LOOKING AT THE CHANGE IN THE TAX BASE, WE WERE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATING A 6.5% INCREASE. CERTIFIED VALUES CAME IN AT 9.6%, WHICH A LOT OF THE CHANGE WAS ON THE EXISTING PROPERTY SIDE. LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE THREE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF THE PROPERTY TAX BASE, WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, RESIDENTIAL INCREASED 5.6%, WITH LARGE PORTION OF THAT [00:30:07] BEING AN EXISTING PROPERTY. COMMERCIAL INCREASED 10.4%, WHICH IS 5.6% IN EXISTING AND 4.7 IN NEW CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS. PERSONAL BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY INCREASED 26.8%, WITH A LARGE PORTION LARGEST PORTION OF THAT BEING IN EXISTING PROPERTY. HISTORICALLY, THIS IS A HISTORICAL COMPARISON OF DISPUTED VALUES. THESE ARE VALUES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN APPEAL. THE COUNTY PROVIDES THESE TO US AS ESTIMATES. THERE IS UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT APPEALS WILL BE GRANTED AND WHAT APPEALS WILL COME BACK TO US. THIS IS A HISISTORICAL COMPARISON GOING BACK TO 2015. YOU CAN SEE WE'VE HAD HISTORIC HIGHS IN THE NUMBER OF APPEALS. THIS HAS CREATED A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY IN OUR AD VALOREM TAX REVENUE. BY JULY 20TH, THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD WILL NEED TO FINISH THOSE HEARINGS WITH NO MORE THAN 5% OF THE TOTAL APPRAISED VALUE REMAINING UNDER PROTEST. AND FOR 2026 DISPUTED VALUES TOTAL 5.79% OF OUR TOTAL CERTIFIED VALUE. IF I MAY JUST ADD A LITTLE CONTEXT HERE, THE 500 MILLION RANGE FOR DISPUTED HAS KIND OF BEEN OUR RECENT NORM, OTHER THAOUR PANDEMIC YEAR, WHICH HAD VERY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT HAD EMPLOYEES WORKING FROM HOME TRYING TO DO REAPPRAISALS FROM HOME, AND IT WAS THEIR FIRST TIME REALLY VENTURING INTO A ZOOM PROCESS OR AN, YOU KNOW, A DELAYED PROCESS. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THE AMOUNT IN DISPUTED HAD CROSSED THAT BILLION THRESHOLD. THE PAST TWO YEARS, ALL APPRAISAL DISTRICTS IN THIS METROPLEX AND REALLY ACROSS THE STATE ARE REPORTING RECORD LEVELS OF PEOPLE APPEALING THEIR PROPERTY VALUE OR EVEN PURSUING LITIGATION RELATED TO THE RESULTS OF THAT APPEALS PROCESS. SO THIS PAST YEAR, IN 25, WE ALMOST HAD 1.3 BILLION. AND FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR, WE ARE SHOWING ABOUT 1.7 BILLION OF OUR CERTIFIED VALUE STILL GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND THAT MAY NOT BE RESOLVED UNTIL ALMOST JANUARY. BASED ON THE TIME THEY SCHEDULE THOSE HEARINGS. SOME OF THEM MAY GO INTO LITIGATION. AND WHAT'S EVEN MORE INTERESTING ABOUT THAT NUMBER IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF IT'S ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, MAJORITY OF. THAT'S IN OUR RESIDENCES. AND WE'RE I THINK WE'RE ALL AWARE OF PRIVATE FIRMS THAT PACKAGE AND DO WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING AT A. REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND SOME OF THE CONTEXT, FARHAD AND I WILL BE BRINGING BACK NEXT TUESDAY. IN THE SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS, WE WANTED TO RAISE THIS AS A AS A CONCERN, AND THAT OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS WILL NEED TO TAKE SOME AMOUNT OF CONSIDERATION OF THIS NOT MATERIALIZING, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF IT IS STILL BEING CONSIDERED. AND WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. JUST SO IT'S CLEAR FOR THE COUNCIL AND FOR THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WATCHING, WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY IN THE APPRAISAL OF PROPERTIES, WHAT PROPERTY VALUATIONS ARE OR DETERMINING ANY OF THESE APPEALS. THIS IS ALL THAT'S DONE, DONE BY THE COUNTY AND OUTSIDE OF OUR HANDS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THE WE ARE IN THREE JURISDICTIONS. SO DALLAS COUNTY, COLLIN COUNTY AND ROCKWALL COUNTY, THEY ARE INDEPENDENT CERTIFIED APPRAISAL DISTRICTS. THEY DO THE APPRAISAL PROCESS, THE DETERMINING OF THAT PROPERTY VALUE AND THE APPEALS PROCESS, ALL COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY. THE CITY HAS NO CONTROL OR INFLUENCE OR INVOLVEMENT IN THAT PROCESS. WE JUST RECEIVE THE REPORT OF THE RESULTS OF THEM REVIEWING AND DETERMINING THOSE VALUES, AS WELL AS THE RESULTS AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS INTO THE FALL. AND JUST LIKE AN AVERAGE CITIZEN WILL RECEIVE THE RESULTS FROM THEIR APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THATT GETS FORWARDED TO THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS OUR CITY TAX DEPARTMENT. SO PRELIMINARY, WE'RE ESTIMATING THE CERTIFIED VALUES WILL GENERATE ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION FROM WHAT WE HAD INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO HOLD THAT IN ONGOING RESERVE. YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS IS A COMPARISON OF RESERVE SCENARIOS THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE IN THE NO BUDGET AND YES BUDGET. IN THE NO BUDGET, WE WOULD NOT INCLUDE ANY PRELIMINARY BASED ON PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES, WE WERE NOT PROPOSING TO INCLUDE ANY ONGOING RESERVES. WITH THESE CHANGES. CERTIFIED VALUES, WE WOULD PROPOSE TO PUT THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE INTO ONGOING RESERVE, WITH ONE TIME RESERVES OF 16.6 MILLION IN THE NO BUDGET. IN THE YES BUDGET, WE HAD PROPOSED TO INCLUDE ONGOING [00:35:02] RESERVES OF ABOUT 2.8 MILLION, AND AGAIN, THE SAME ADDITIONAL REVENUE HOLDS IN THE BUDGET, AND WE WOULD PROPOSE TO GO INCREASE THAT TO $3.8 MILLION OF ONGOING. AND I WANT TO BRING THE COUNCIL UP TO SPEED ON THE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS WE HAD ABOUT THIS. WE ONLY GOT THESE NUMBERS YESTERDAY. BUT IF YOU GO BACK, SLIDE, PLEASE. THE $1 MILLION IN ONGOING RESERVES FOR THE NO BUDGET AND THE ADDITIONAL MILLION IN THE BUDGET. THE REASON I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO HOLD THOSE IN RESERVES IS, AS YOU SAW, $1.6 BILLION IN DISPUTES IS GREATER THAN WE'VE EVER SEEN. IF THOSE IF THOSE DISPUTES ARE SLIGHTLY GREATER THAN HISTORICAL AVERAGES, THAT NUMBER DISAPPEARS IMMEDIATELY. IF WE SPEND THAT MONEY ON SOMETHING AND DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WE'LL FIND OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO PERFORM AS WE WOULD. THE SECOND REASON IS IF, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE NO BUDGET BUT ALSO UNDER THE BUDGET, IF WE PUT THE NEXT SLIDE UP, IS THAT IF THE IF THE. YOU CAN I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT IS, THOSE RESERVES, IF WE HAVE THEM, SHOULD BE USED. IN MY OPINION, WE SHOULD RESERVE THOSE FOR BETTER IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GROUND ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT WE CAN GROW OURSELVES OUT OF THIS PROBLEM OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. THAT IS, WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL ALLOW THE THE BUSINESSES TO LOCATE HERE AND TO THRIVE HERE, SO THAT MORE OF OUR REVENUE IS GENERATED FROM SALES TAX AND LESS OF OUR REVENUE IS GENERATED FROM PROPERTY TAX. OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT'S CONDUCIVE FOR BUSINESSES TO WANT TO SIT HERE AND SPENDING ADDITIONAL FUNDS THIS YEAR WILL NOT BE IN FURTHERANCE OF THAT GOAL. WE HAVE SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT THE VOTERS WILL DO ON THE TAX RATE ELECTION, AND WE'RE ALSO AWARE OF LEGISLATIVE CONCERNS IN THE CURRENT UPCOMING LEGISLATURE. THE LEGISLATURE MAY FURTHER REDUCE THE CITY'S ABILITY ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE TO MAINTAIN THE REVENUE LEVELS THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN. AND IF THAT HAPPENS, WE WANT TO HAVE RESERVES AVAILABLE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS THE SERVICES THAT THEY EXPECT, DESPITE THE LEGISLATIVE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE FACE. AND SO I WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL TO TO NOT LOOK AT THAT MONEY AS THIS IS EXTRA AVAILABLE MONEY TO SPEND THIS YEAR TO INSTEAD LOOK AT THAT AS MONEY THAT MIGHT DISAPPEAR BECAUSE OF THE APPEALS. AND IF IT DOESN'T, WE SHOULD SET IT ASIDE SO THAT WE CAN BALANCE OUR AND MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AS WE GO FORWARD IN THE YEARS AHEAD. NEXT TUESDAY, CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ASKED TO START THE PROCESS AS IT RELATES TO CERTIFYING THE APPRAISAL ROLLS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM OUR INDEPENDENT APPRAISAL DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS SETTING THE PROCESS TO CONSIDER THOSE TAX RATES. ON TUESDAY, WE WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING THE CERTIFIED VALUES AND THE IMPACT OF THE BUDGET IN GREATER DEPTH, AS WELL AS BE WE WILL EITHER AT NEXT TUESDAY MEETING OR THE SUBSEQUENT MEETING, BE PROVIDING UPDATED DOCUMENTS AS IT RELATES TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AS IT'S ADJUSTED BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION YOU'RE HEARING TODAY, THE DISCUSSION TODAY, FOR CONSIDERATION FOR ULTIMATELY ADOPTING A BUDGET IN CONSIDERATION OF THESE CERTIFIED VALUES. MOVING ON TO OUR SALES TAX PROJECTIONS FOR FY 27 ARE PROJECTING $45.5 MILLION, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH OUR ONGOING AVERAGE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. NOTABLE, WE'VE HAD NOTABLE ONE TIME REVENUES FROM ONE TIME TRANSACTIONS. THESE ARE NON-RECURRING, SO WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE TO ALLOCATE THOSE TO ONGOING EXPENDITURES. THOSE ARE THOSE DARK NAVY PORTIONS THERE WHICH HAVE BEEN VERY HEALTHY THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. LOOKING AT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, THIS IS BASED ON AN EIGHT YEAR AVERAGE OF NET RETAIL SALES. WE'RE LOOKING AT 27.9 MILLION FOR FY 27. LOOKING AT OUR LANDFILL DISPOSAL FEES, WE'RE PROJECTING 25.8 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR. THIS INCLUDES FEE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE EXPECTED TO GENERATE ABOUT $784,000 IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. THE REASON WHY THIS LOOKS FLAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE SWITCHED AWAY FROM A STREET AND ALLEY SURCHARGE ASSESSED TO THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT IN LIEU OF A DIRECT TRANSFER FROM SANITATION TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. SO A PASS THROUGH FEE, A PASS THROUGH IS NO LONGER INCLUDED IN THESE PROJECTIONS. CONTINUING ON WITH SOME OF OUR PROPOSED FEE CHANGES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET FOR LANDFILL, THE PROPOSED FEE CHANGE FOR AUTOMATIC DUMPING VEHICLES IS INCREASING FROM $47 TO $50 PER [00:40:01] TON FOR COMMERCIAL AND DEMOLITION DUMPING VEHICLES. THIS IS BEING PROPOSED TO INCREASE FROM 63 TO $64.5 PER TON. FOR COAL. WE ARE INCLUDING AN INCREASE TO SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PERMITS OF $65 TO $250 TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE METROPLEX AVERAGE FOR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE ARE ADDING A FARMERS MARKET PERMIT FEE OF $100. THIS IS BASED ON STATE REQUIREMENTS OF FEES. WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASSESS AND MUST ASSESS FOR INSPECTIONS AND ON LIBRARY. WE ARE PROPOSING A NONRESIDENT LIBRARY CARD FEE FOR NON RECIPROCAL CITIES OF $50. WE TALK ABOUT THAT FARMERS MARKET PERMIT FEE WHAT THAT IS AND AND HOW IT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING THINGS PREVIOUSLY. OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WE'RE NOT EXPERTS ON THIS FEE, BUT WE CAN GET YOU SUBSEQUENT INFORMATION IS THAT THIS FEE CAME ABOUT THROUGH A CHANGE IN STATE LAW AND THAT IF YOU ARE INSPECTING THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, THAT YOU MUST LEVY A FEE. BUT LET US GET FURTHER INFORMATION. WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN TRY TO ANSWER IT BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY. IF NOT, WE WILL GET YOU A WRITTEN RESPONSE. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. SO ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MENTION IS I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THE AUTOMATIC DUMPING VEHICLE FEE GO UP MORE THAN JUST A COUPLE OF DOLLARS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS. AND WE'RE JUMPING FROM 65 TO 250 OR 0 TO 50. AND THEN THE LANDFILL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS A VERY HOT COMMODITY AND HAS A LIFE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF ITS OWN. I, I THINK THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE SELLING OURSELVES SHORT TO ONLY GO UP TWO BUCKS ON THAT ONE. AND WE DON'T HAVE. CHRIS HOOFNAGLE, THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF OUR LANDFILL AND SANITATION, SCHEDULED FOR TODAY. BUT AREN'T THE RECOMMENDATION YOU SEE HERE BEFORE YOU WAS WE'VE INCREASED THE LANDFILL FEES THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND THIS IS TO MAINTAIN, IN LINE WITH THE THOSE KIND OF REGIONAL LANDFILL AVERAGES. I THINK WHEN SOME OF OUR FEES WE DO LEAD THE MARKET, BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF WHERE WE'RE POSITIONED AND OUR ABILITY TO CAPITALIZE OFF OF OUR LOCATION AND BEING THE PRIMARY LOCATION FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DUMPING. I THINK SPECIFICALLY ON THE C AND D SIDE, THERE IS A STAFF CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING TOO FAR AHEAD OF THE MARKET BECAUSE IT IS A NARROW MARGIN BETWEEN HOW HIGH YOUR FEE IS VERSUS THE COST OF GAS AND THEM DRIVING JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE LANDFILL. WE WE CAN GET YOU FURTHER INFORMATION ON THAT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO REVIEW ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION YOU HAVE AND COME BACK WITH SOME PROS AND CONS TO THE COUNCIL, AND THEY COME TO US DURING A MEETING. RIGHT? THEY DO. SO ALL OF THESE FEES HERE ARE INCLUDED IN AN APPENDIX C OF THE BUDGET DOCUMENT. AND ON AUGUST 17TH YOU WILL BE ASKED TO CONSIDER CHANGES TO THEHE RATE AND FEE ORDINANCE AS AN INDEPENDENT ACTION. AND WE CAN HAVE ANY SUBSEQUENT PRESENTATIONS FROM ANY ONE DEPARTMENT THAT'S PROPOSING A FEE CHANGE. AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, I SHARE YOUR CONCERN AND HAVE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF THE FACT THAT IT'S A VALUABLE RESOURCE OUR LANDFILL FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND THAT I WANT THEM TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THE LANDFILL FEES THAT WE'RE CHARGING AND TO STUDY WHETHER THE IMPACTS OF THOSE FEES WOULD DRIVE THE ULTIMATE USE OF LANDFILL DOWN IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO US. THAT IS, IF YOU SET THE FEES TOO HIGH, THEN THEN THE REVENUE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO RECOVER FROM SOME OF THE CARTING COMPANIES WHO USE THIS DROPS OFF DRAMATICALLY. AND IT'S IT'S AS ALISON POINTED OUT, IT'S KIND OF A SWEET SPOT AND TRY TO FIND IT. I WILL CERTAINLY ASK THEM TO REVIEW THESE FEES BECAUSE I SHARE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT. ARE WE STILL PROVIDING THE SERVICES AT A LOWER RATE THAN THE MARKET WOULD ACTUALLY SUGGEST? WE SHOULD? BECAUSE I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN CHRIS CAME TO US FOR TALKING ABOUT FEE ADJUSTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE IS A VERY FINE TUNED SCIENCE TO IT. AND SO ESPECIALLY WITH LOOKING AT OUR LIFE EXPECTANCY OF LANDFILL, AND HE HAD ALL THE NUMBERS CRUNCHED AND HAD IT VERY LANDFILL FOR DUMMIES TYPE OF [00:45:06] FORMAT. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN, IN HEARING THEIR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS. I'LL ASK THEM TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE PUBLIC AND I'M SURE YOU'RE SURPRISED. WE'RE SURPRISED. ALSO, THE AMOUNT OF MATH THAT GOES INTO RUNNING A LANDFILL AND CALCULATING A RATE, AND THE ACTUAL MODEL, THE MATHEMATICAL MODEL THAT GOES INTO SETTING A RATE IS QUITE COMPLEX, BUT I CERTAINLY WILL ASK THEM TO LOOK AT THIS AGGRESSIVELY. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, MR. MAYOR, SIMPLE QUESTION. WHO ARE THE THE RECIPROCAL CITIES FOR THE LIBRARY? THERE? THERE ARE AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER CITIES. I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I BELIEVE THE CITY OF DALLAS IS ONE OF OUR NON RECIPROCAL CITIES. I WOULD THINK. YEAH, PLAYING OUR RECIPROCAL. YEAH. I BELIEVE DALLAS IS THE BIGGEST ONE IN OUR AREA THAT CHARGES OUR RESIDENTS FOR A LIBRARY CARD. AND WE'RE SIMPLY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE RESIDENTS FOR LIBRARY CARD. ALSO, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE OUR RESIDENTS A FREE LIBRARY CARD, THEN WE PROBABLY AREN'T INCLINED TO GIVE YOUR RESIDENTS A FREE LIBRARY CARD AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR TAXPAYERS. RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN OUR NOTES. WE'LL BRING IT BACK BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME JUMP BACK IN. I DO WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT MANY OF THE LANDFILLS AROUND US ARE PRIVATELY OWNED. THEY ARE NOT MUNICIPAL OWNED UTILITIES LIKE OURS. OUR LANDFILL BELONGS TO OUR RESIDENTS. IT DOES NOT BELONG TO ALL OF THOSE LARGER VENDORS THAT UTILIZE IT. SO I, I AM ALSO IN FAVOR OF LOOKING AT THESE FEES, BUT I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT EVERY YEAR. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, ALLISON, FOR FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND THAT PRESENTATION THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS MORNING, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CODE COMPLIANCE, SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL PERMIT, THE MOTIVATIONS AS IT RELATES TO GOING FROM 65 TO $250. YES. SO IN TALKING WITH OUR CODE DEPARTMENT AND EVERY CITY, THAT WHOLE LEVIES ANY FEE OR RATE DOES A METROPLEX SURVEY EACH YEAR. AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT METROPLEX COMPARISON AND TALKING WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ABOUT JUST HOW WE PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, HOW WE LEVY THE FEE AND HOW WE ADMINISTER ADMINISTRATE OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PROGRAM. WE WERE AN ANOMALY WITHIN THE METROPLEX. I BELIEVE OUR CURRENT PROGRAM IS YOU PAY A FEE, YOU GO THROUGH A CERTIFICATION PROCESS, AND IF YOU COMPLETE THAT CERTIFICATION PROCESS, YOU ONLY PAY THAT FEE ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS. THE METROPLEX IS MOVING TO WHERE YOU PAY AN ANNUAL FEE. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A CERTIFICATION PROCESS. THAT'S THAT'S MORE DIVORCE, DIVORCE FROM THE FEE ITSELF. AND THERE'S AN ANNUAL INSPECTION COMPONENT AS PART OF THAT. SO THIS RECOMMENDATION YOU SEE HERE BEFORE YOU AND I, WE CAN ASK, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGEMENT OR SCHEDULE THE CODE DEPARTMENT TO COME FOR EVEN GREATER DETAIL IS REALLY JUST TO BRING US MORE IN LINE WITH THE METROPLEX IS ALSO A SHIFT IN HOW THAT PROGRAM WILL BE ADMINISTERED TO MATCH MORE OF WHAT OUR PEER CITIES ARE DOING. SHIFT IN THAT WE WILL BE INSPECTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, AND THE COST OF THOSE INSPECTIONS IS SIGNIFICANT, TAKES A GOOD AMOUNT OF MANPOWER AND TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HEAR, AND I'M SURE YOU HEAR IT BECAUSE I HEAR IT FROM RESIDENTS, IS TT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT EXIST IN SOME OF THESE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TEND TO BE BELOW THE STANDARDS AND TEND TO BE BELOW THE STANDARDS NOT ONLY OF THE CITY, BUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'RE IN. SO THAT RESIDENTS COMPLAIN SOMETIMES THAT SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL HOMES THAT ARE THERE ARE SUBSTANDARD. THESE INSPECTIONS THAT WE WILL PROVIDE IS INTENDED, ARE INTENDED TO IMPROVE THAT PROBLEM. THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL HOMES, PEOPLE WHO ARE EARNING INCOME BY RENTING THEIR HOMES, MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTIES AT A STANDARD THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THOSE HOMES. AND THAT'S A MANPOWER INTENSIVE PROCESS. WE SEND PEOPLE OUT THERE FOR PERIODS OF TIME TO GO THROUGH AND CHECK AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT THE CODE REQUIRES THEM TO HAVE, IF THEY WANT TO RENT THEIR HOME TO SOMEBODY ACTUALLY EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY. AND SO IT'S DESIGNED TO PARTLY ADDRESS THE PROBLEM THAT I'M I'M CERTAIN IF YOU'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT ABOUT SOME OF OUR RENTAL PROPERTIES. YEAH, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT STRETCH, 65 TO 250. AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ELABORATE A. WE TALK ABOUT IT [00:50:03] AT LEAST SUCH THAT OUR PUBLIC WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY THAT PARTICULAR INCREASE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON FEES? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CONTINUE. WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FEES FOR PARKS. QUESTIONS. YES. FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, WE'RE PROPOSING A $20 RESIDENT AND $80 NONRESIDENT FOR RECREATION CENTER RENTALS. WE'RE PROPOSING AN INCREASE FROM 60 TO 65 FOR MEETING ROOMS, 80 TO 85 FOR MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS, AND 8080 TO 85 FOR GYM RENTALS. AND FOR OUR BUILDING INSPECTION. OH, I'M SORRY FOR BOTH. OKAY. WE CAN PAUSE ON PARKS. WE WILL ON PARKS. LOOK, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF ATTENDEES AT THE SENIOR CENTER THAT ARE RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS? WE'LL SEE IF OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT CAN BRING THAT AS PART OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS YOU CAN ASK AFTER THEIR PRESENTATION BECAUSE THEY ARE SCHEDULED LATER IN THE DAY. OKAY. GOT IT. I'LL SAVE THESE QUESTIONS FOR THEM THEN. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. FOR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM? SORRY WE'RE KEEPING YOU BUSY TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE REC CENTER RENTALS HOW THEY WOULD FEEL ABOUT DOING A RESIDENTIAL VERSUS NON RESIDENTIAL RENTAL RATE ON THE MEETING ROOM, MULTIPURPOSE ROOMS IN THE GYM. WE'RE REVIEWING. DEFINITELY. AND THEY'LL BE HERE TODAY. PARKS DEPARTMENT'S HERE TODAY. WE CAN DISCUSS THAT ISSUE WITH THEM WHEN THEY COME. ANYTHING ELSE MA'AM. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO BUILDING INSPECTION. BUILDING INSPECTION IS DOING A VERY COMPREHENSIVE OVERHAUL OF THEIR FEE STRUCTURE. IT'S MOVING TOWARDS A PERCENTAGE OF VALUATION AS OPPOSED TO FLAT FEES. AND THERE ARE ALSO ADDITIONAL FEES TO BRING UP OUR FEES UP TO THE METROPLEX AVERAGE. AND WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR Y'ALL ON THAT. YEAH. GIVEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO FINALIZE THAT FEE SCHEDULE, AS WELL AS GET THAT REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE FEEL IT WOULD BE BEST TO TAKE THAT AS AN ITEM. WE SEND THE COUNCIL, AND THEN IF THERE ARE SUBSEQUENT QUESTIONS, WE CAN COVER THOSE AT A FUTURE DISCUSSION BEFORE THAT. AUGUST 17TH SCHEDULED ADOPTION DATE, OR IF COUNCIL WOULD ULTIMATELY LIKE A PRESENTATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT, WE COULD COORDINATE THAT AS WELL. MOVING ON TO SOME OF THE MAJOR COST CHANGES IN THE GENERAL FUND THIS YEAR FOR PERSONNEL, ANNUAL MERIT INCREASES FOR GENERAL SCHEDULE, SKILL BASED PAY AND CIVIL SERVICE IS ABOUT 4.6 MILLION. MARKET ADJUSTMENTS, AS MIKE WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER, FOR HIGH TURNOVER VACANT POSITIONS, WE HAVE $1.2 MILLION BUDGETED FOR ADJUSTMENTS. THE PROPOSED BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES AN INCREASE FOR THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE RETIREMENT STABILITY BENEFIT FOR CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES, FROM 2.75% TO 3%, AND THIS IS THE FINAL INCREASE OF OUR PHASED APPROACH TO GET TO A 3% CITY CONTRIBUTION AND INCREASES TO THE GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE FUND FOR ACTIVE EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES IS $2 MILLION. ON THE OPERATING SIDE, BASELINE DEPARTMENTAL OPERATING FIXED ARE ABOUT $436,000. FLEET MAINTENANCE $668,000. AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE PRESSURES IN I.T VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS AND FUEL. THERE WERE, AS MIKE HAD ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WE'VE RELOOKED AT OUR OUR EXISTING BASELINE OPERATIONS TO SEE IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO REALLOCATE ON THE VACANT POSITIONS. THESE ARE POSITIONS THAT WERE ELIMINATED WITH MINIMAL IMPACT TO SERVICE LEVELS. THAT'S AN ESTIMATED $532,000. REALIGN EXISTING OPERATIONAL BUDGETS. OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES $1.1 MILLION, AND THESE WILL BE REALLOCATED TO FUND CORE SERVICES STRATEGIC PLAN AND ALSO TO MAINTAIN CITY RESERVES. THESE REALLOCATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AND THE NO BUDGET, AND THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR IN UPCOMING BUDGETS TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES. THESE ARE THE FIRST SET OF. THIS IS THE FIRST PACKAGE OF THE BUDGET. NEW ADDITIONS. THESE ARE ONLY INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. AND AS A REMINDER, IF THE BUDGET DOES NOT PASS, THESE ITEMS WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET ON A BUDGET AMENDMENT AFTER THE TAX RATE ELECTION. SO TO ENHANCE SERVICE LEVELS, WE INCLUDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FIREFIGHTERS AND OVERTIME, EMERGENCY SERVICE DISPATCHERS, POLICE OFFICERS AND ADDITIONAL TAHOES ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIANS, A CODE COMPLIANCE ADMINISTRATOR, MAGISTRATE, SERVICES FOR MUNICIPAL COURT, PARK SECURITY AND A PARKS FIELD SUPERVISOR. THE SECOND BLOCK ARE ITEMS TO CONTINUE SERVICE LEVELS. THESE [00:55:08] IS TO MAINTAIN SERVICE LEVELS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS COME TO EXPECT. WE HAVE PARKS AND CITYWIDE LANDSCAPING, LIBRARY RESOURCES, SPECIAL EVENTS, PARKS, VEHICLES, THE WILDFLOWER PLANTING PROGRAM, CROSSING GUARD SALARIES AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND RESTORE OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED TO BE CUT OUT OF THE NO BUDGET. SO IN TOTAL, THE BUDGET REQUESTS ARE ABOUT 7.2 MILLION 6.1 OF THAT IS ONGOING. ABOUT 1 MILLION OF THAT IS ONE TIME. AND WE DO HAVE PROVIDED A HANDOUT OF ALL THE NEW REQUESTS THAT ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE NO BUDGET AND THE BUDGET. IT'S THIS HANDOUT WITH THE GREEN HEADER ON IT. THIS WILL BE PROVIDED ■TO YOU ALL DIGITALLY AS WELL. SO YOU ALL CAN REVIEW THAT AND LET US KNOW OF ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE NO BUDGET AS WELL. MOVING ON TO COMPENSATION, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, FOR GENERAL SCHEDULE EMPLOYEES, THE LAST MAJOR MARKET ADJUSTMENT WAS IN 2018 FOR G, P, L AND I T. THE LAST MAJOR ADJUSTMENT WAS IN 2023. THE CITY WILL BE MOVING TOWARDS A MORE PHASE COMPENSATION APPROACH. INSTEAD OF DOING LARGE DELAYED CHANGES, WE WILL BE MORE PROACTIVE IN MAKING THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. FOR GENERAL SCHEDULE. THE CITY IS PROJECTING ABOUT 1.9 MILLION TO ADJUST GENERAL SCHEDULE SALARIES, 1.2 MILLION OF THAT IS JUST FOR GENERAL FUND. AND AS WE ARE MEETING WITH DEPARTMENTS, WE WILL BE PRIORITIZING HIGH TURNOVER POSITIONS, POSITIONS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT AND WORK TO ADJUST THOSE PAY GAPS. WITH THE DEPARTMENT LEADERS LOOKING AT MERRITT. THESE ARE THE ANNUAL INCREASES. LAST YEAR, IN LIEU OF DOING A MERIT, THE CITY EMPLOYEES RECEIVED ONE TIME LUMP SUMS WITH A 3% MERIT FOR EMPLOYEES, 3% MERIT PLUS MARKET FOR CIVIL SERVICE, AS WE'VE DONE IN PRIOR YEARS FOR GENERAL SCHEDULE EMPLOYEES, IS ABOUT $3.1 MILLION CITYWIDE, WITH 1.3 MILLION OF THAT BEING IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR CIVIL SERVICE ADJUSTMENTS. THAT'S ABOUT 3.3 MILLION. AND FOR SKILL BASED PAY, THAT'S ABOUT $505,000. SO TOTAL ANTICIPATED WAGE ADJUSTMENTS CITYWIDE IS ABOUT 8.8 MILLION. LOOKING AT OUR GROUP HEALTH PLAN FOR FY 27, WE'RE INCLUDING A $6 INCREASE TO EMPLOYEE PREMIUMS WITH A 10% INCREASE TO THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION. SO FOR THE CITY SIDE, THAT'S AN IMPACT OF ABOUT $3.3 MILLION. ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTION FOR THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S ABOUT 1.9. FOR RETIREES, WE'RE PROPOSING A 10% INCREASE TO RETIREE PREMIUMS, WITH A 3% INCREASE TO THE CITY CONTBUTION WITH A TOTAL COST, THE GENERAL FUND OF ABOUT $62,000 FOR RETIREES. AND LOOKING AT THAT COST SHARE FOR MEDICAL FOR THE EMPLOYEE PLAN, IT'S ABOUT 84% FUNDED BY THE CITY, 16% FUNDED BY THE EMPLOYEE. AND ON RETIREE SIDE, IT'S ABOUT 52% FOR THE CITY SHARE AND 48% FOR RETIREES AND FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE RETIREMENT STABILITY CONTRIBUTION. THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION IS INCREASING FROM 3.25% TO 3%, AND FOR THE CITY, 2.75% TO 3%. AND ONE SECOND. I HAVE A QUESTION. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. ON THE COMPENSATION STRATEGY. IT WAS PRIORITIZING POSITIONS WITH HIGH TURNOVER RECRUITMENT CHALLENGES. CAN WE ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION POSITIONS THAT ARE LIKE MORE LABOR INTENSIVE, THAT HAVE A HIGHER INJURY RATE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE POSITIONS THAT WHEN YOU'RE SHORT ONE GUY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE A DEEPER IMPACT ON THE CREW ALTOGETHER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO SO WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME IS RATHER THAN JUST HAVE HR LOOK AT THE ACTUAL MARKET DATA, WE'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING EACH DEPARTMENT IN DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT AND TALKING ABOUT THE EXACT TYPE OF OPERATIONAL IMPACTS THAT YOU'RE IDENTIFYING. THAT IS,S, IT'S ONE THING TO KNW WHAT THE DATA SAYS. IT'S ANOTHER THING TO BE ABLE TO SIT ACROSS THE TABLE FROM THE DIRECTORS AND SAY, LET ME TELL YOU THE OPERATIONAL IMPACT THIS HAS ON OUR DEPARTMENT. SO WHILE WE MAY ONLY BE TWO EMPLOYEES SHORT, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT IN A CREW OF 30. HERE'S THE OPERATIONAL IMPACT. AND WE CAN'T HIRE THOSE TWO EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THE MARKET WON'T LET US. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EXACTLY THAT ISSUE, WHICH IS IT'S THE KINDS OF FACTORS THAT YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED. DEPUTY MAYOR, PRO TEM, IT'S IT'S IT'S HOW DOES THE LACK OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE IMPACT YOUR OPERATIONS? AND SOMETIMES IT'S BECAUSE THE PROJECTS ARE SO LABOR INTENSIVE, [01:00:02] YOU WEAR PEOPLE OUT MUCH MORE QUICKLY THAN A PERSON, SAY, SITTING AT A DESK WHERE IF YOU'RE TWO PEOPLE SHORT, OKAY, THIS PERSON HAS TO INTERACT WITH CUSTOMERS MORE FREQUENTLY SITTING AT A DESK THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME OPERATIONAL IMPACT AS SOMEBODY WHO'S CONCRETE FINISHING IN THE HOT SUN. AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE REASON WHY WE'RE HAVING ONE ON ONE MEETINGS WITH EACH DEPARTMENT SAYING, HERE'S WHAT HR TELLS US. THE DATA SAYS ABOUT THE MARKET GAP. YOU TELL ME WHAT THE OPERATIONAL IMPACT IS TO YOUR ORGANIZATION, AND MARRYING THOSE TWO UP SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. AND I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. LOOKING AT A SUMMARY OF THE GENERAL FUND BASELINE REVENUE. AND AGAIN, THIS WAS BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES, NOT THE CERTIFIED WILL BE BRINGING THE CERTIFIED IMPACT IN THE COMING WEEKS. BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES OF BASELINE GENERAL FUND REVENUE WAS ABOUT 253 MILLION, WITH A $10.3 MILLION ANTICIPATED FROM THE TAX RATE INCREASE AND PROPOSED REVENUE ADJUSTMENTS OF ABOUT 1.6 MILLION. AND SO TOTAL REVENUES WERE PROJECTED TO BE 264.9 MILLION. LOOKING AT OUR EXPENDITURES, PERSONNEL IS ANTICIPATED TO BE 176.5 MILLION. OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL, 22.1 MILLION AND SUPPORT SERVICES AND TRANSFERS 47.7 MILLION FOR TOTAL EXPENDITURES OF 246.3 MILLION. AND LOOKING AT THE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, 253.3 MILLION, WHICH IS THE ADDITIONAL SBP OR NEW FUNDING REQUEST, AS WELL AS NEEDS FOR COMPENSATION AND GROUP HEALTH, WOULD LEAVE A REMAINING FUND BALANCE ABOVE OUR FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENT OF $144,000. LOOKING AT OUR RESERVE ESTIMATES. SO TOTAL FUNDING RESOURCES IS 271.6. THAT'S TOTAL REVENUE PLUS A UTILIZATION OF FUND BALANCE RESERVES FOR EXPENDITURES 100 AND 89.5 FOR PERSONNEL, AND 82 FOR OPERATIONS AND CAPITAL AND OTHER TRANSFERS, WHICH WOULD PUT US AT A. 20 SORRY. $271.6 OF TOTAL FUNDING REQUIREMENTS. AND FOR THE FUND BALANCE, OUR FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENT BASED ON OUR OPERATIONAL EXPENDITURES OF 30 DAYS GOAL, WE WOULD BE AT 20.4 AND I ARE AVAILABLE. FUND BALANCE RESERVES WOULD BE 99.1, WHICH WOULD PUT US AT 58 DAYS OF AVAILABLE RESERVES. MOVING ON TO OUR UTILITY CHANGES, THERE IS NO PROPOSED INCREASE TO THE ELECTRIC RATE FOR WATER. THERE'S A $2 AND 47 PROPOSED $2.47 INCREASE PROPOSED FOR SEWER OR WASTEWATER, 94 CENT INCREASE FOR SANITATION OR TRASH COLLECTION $2 AND FOR STORMWATER, $1 AND 72 CENT INCREASE WHICH BASED ON PRIOR COUNCIL DIRECTION, WOULD PUT US CLOSE TO THE METROPLEX AVERAGE. THIS IS OUR COST OF GOVERNMENT CALCULATION, WHICH IS IT'S LOOKING AT WHAT PERCENT OF AVERAGE RESIDENTS INCOME THEY'RE SPENDING ON CITY SERVICES. SO FOR THIS YEAR COMBINED IS ABOUT 5.9% OF THEIR ANNUAL INCOME WILL BE SPENT ON CITY SERVICES, 2.1% WOULD BE ON ELECTRIC, 1.8% WOULD BE ON OTHER UTILITIES, AND 2.1% WOULD BE ON TAXES. AND THAT IS BASED ON AN AVERAGE HOME VALUE OF TAXABLE AVERAGE HOME VALUE OF 290,000, AND AN AVERAGE INCOME OF $95,000. AND WE ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT AND A WAY TO NAVIGATE IT. I SAVED IT, SAVED A PDF OF IT IN THE FOLDER. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT UP. WALK THROUGH THAT.. THE BUDGET DOCUMENT IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AS WELL AS ON ALL PUBLIC LIBRARIES AND THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. SO NAVIGATION. THERE ARE BOOKMARKS HERE ON THE SIDE THAT WILL JUMP YOU TO ANY MAJOR SECTION. AND WITHIN THOSE MAJOR SECTIONS, THERE'S ALSO A TABLE OF CONTENTS BUTTON, WHICH WILL TAKE YOU BACK UP TO THE TABLE OF CONTENTS, WHICH WILL SHOW YOU THE PAGE NUMBER AND THE MAJOR SECTION. AND ALL THESE LINKS HERE ARE CLICKABLE, SO YOU CAN QUICKLY JUMP THROUGH THERE. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DIGITAL VERSION, THE MAJOR SECTIONS OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET PROPOSED BUDGET DOCUMENT ARE THE OVERVIEW, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS THE MAJOR CHANGES FOR ALL FUNDS. THE FINANCIAL SUMMARIES, WHICH GOES OVER THE EXPENDITURES FOR ALL FUNDS AND THOSE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THOSE FUNDS. THE CIP SUMMARIES, WHICH DISCUSSES THE 2026 CIP HISTORICAL DATA, WHICH IS A TEN YEAR LOOK BACK AT THE MAJOR CHANGES IN THE BUDGET GENERAL FUND AND COMBINED, AND THEN THE APPENDICES, WHICH [01:05:04] INCLUDES FINANCIAL POLICIES AS WELL AS ORDINANCES. AND THIS YEAR, IT ALSO INCLUDES THE NO NO BUDGET VERSUS YES BUDGET INFORMATION. THAT WILL JUMP BACK OVER TO THE CALENDAR. SO TUESDAY WILL WE WILL BE BRINGING THE APPRAISAL AND VOTE TO PROPOSE THE TAX RATE AND SET A DATE AND TIME FOR PUBLIC MEETING ON THE TAX RATE. AUGUST 3RD, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL DISCUSSION. AUGUST 4TH WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE. AUGUST 11TH WILL HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND TAX RATE. AUGUST 17TH. COUNCIL IS SET TO GIVE FINAL DIRECTION ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET, AND AS A PART OF THAT, WILL BRING ALL ADDITIONAL CHANGES BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION AS WELL AS THE CHANGE TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET. BASED ON RECENTLY RECEIVED CERTIFIED VALUES. WE WILL ADOPT THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL CHANGES AS WELL AS THE TAX RATE, AND WE WILL ALSO BE CALLING FOR THE TAX RATE ELECTION. AND THIS IS A DROP DEAD DATE FOR US BASED ON REQUIREMENTS TO THE MUNICIPAL TAX CODE, TO CALL THAT TAX RATE ELECTION. WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER, DID YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB THIS MORNING. WE ALL STAYED AWAKE. I THINK SO SO VERY GOOD. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME ON THIS, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHERE WE GET ONE TIME MOY? IS THIS LIKE THE CITY WON THE LOTTERY AND SCRATCH OFF? OKAY, SO COULD YOU. SURE. THE PRIMARY EXAMPLE WOULD BE ONE TIME SALES TAX. THAT'S OUR LARGEST ONE. THAT IS, IF THERE IS A LARGE, YOU KNOW, A LARGE EQUIPMENT PURCHASE, THAT'S ONE TIME IN NATURE. WE DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE REOCCURRING. WE ALSO RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, REIMBURSEMENTS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE RECEIVE FEMA REIMBURSEMENTS. WE WOULD CONSIDER THOSE ONE TIME REVENUES. LAST COUPLE YEARS, ARPA HAS BEEN A LARGE FEDERAL RECEIPT FOR US. THAT'S ALSO CONSIDERED ONE TIME. AND YEAH, JUST ON SALES TAX, YOU KNOW, TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC, SAY, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR COMMERCIAL CENTER BUYS A BUNCH OF EQUIPMENT, OKAY, SO THEY CAN RUN THEIR BUSINESS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUY THAT EQUIPMENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THAT EQUIPMENT PROBABLY HAS A 5 TO 10 YEAR LIFE. IF THEY SOURCE IT IN OUR CITY, WE GET THE BENEFIT OF THE SALES TAX ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT SALES TAX ANNUALLY. AND AS YOU KNOW, CERTAIN OFFICIALS IN THE CITY ARE ABLE TO SEE THAT CONFIDENTIAL SALES TAX DATA. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ASSUMING ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE IS GOING TO CONTINUE INTO FUTURE YEARS. BUT IT IS NICE TO GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT FROM SOME OF OUR MAJOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES IN THE CITY TO GET THAT SALES TAX PROCEEDS TO BOOSTER AND INVEST IN THE GARLAND ON THE RISE PLAN. ANOTHER ITEM IS YOU HAVE A LARGE DEVELOPMENT WITH BUILDING PERMITS. WE HAVE WHAT WE CONSIDER KIND OF A TYPICAL MONTHLY AMOUNT FOR BUILDING PERMITS, BUT YOU MAY HAVE A LARGE BUILDING PERMIT DEVELOPMENT IN YOUR CITY THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING ELSE DOWN THE PIPELINE OF THAT EXACT SIZE THAT WOULD WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT ONE TIME IN NATURE. SO ANY KIND OF ANOMALY OR SOMETHING ONE TIME OR CHANGES IN OUR IN OUR REVENUE, WE TALK WITH THE REVENUE MANAGERS IN OUR DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS CITY MANAGEMENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE CLASSIFYING AS ONGOING. AND ONE TIME, MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MISSG ANY CONTEXT. AND IT'S ULTIMATELY SO WE CAN PROVIDE THE COUNCIL THE FOUNDATION FOR A BALANCED BUDGET. AND WE'RE NOT EXTENDING OURSELVES BEYOND THE RESOURCES WE'LL HAVE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, AS ALLISON JUST ENDED WITH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT REVENUES CAN WE EXPECT EVERY YEAR SO THAT WE DON'T BUILD SOMETHING INTO THE BUDGET AS AN ONGOING EXPENSE, THAT WE DON'T DO THAT BASED ON WHAT WE HAD ONE GOOD YEAR WITH SALES TAX, BECAUSE A BIG FACTORY OR BIG INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMER COME IN AND PUT A BUNCH OF NEW EQUIPMENT IN, AND THEY PAID SALES TAX ON THAT. WELL, IF WE COUNT ON THAT MONEY EVERY YEAR AND FIND OUT NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE NOT THE FACTORY IS ALREADY BUILT. THEY'RE NOT PUTTING NEW MONEY IN. AND WE BAKE THAT INTO THE BUDGET. WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND SAYING, WE HAVE TO REDUCE SERVICES. WE HAVE TO NOT BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE THEM. AND SO WE'RE PRETTY CAREFUL ON LOOKING AT MONEY THAT WE RECOGNIZE IS A ONE TIME SOURCE. A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A DISASTER AND WE SPEND MONEY TO FIX WHERE THE TREES HAVE FALLEN INTO THE ROADWAY AND PUT THE POWER LINES BACK UP AND CLEAR THE DEBRIS AWAY, AND THEN WE GET REIMBURSED FOR SOME PORTION OF THAT BY FEMA. WELL, THAT'S MONEY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER, IF WE USE THAT MONEY AND SAY, OKAY, THAT'S FEMA REIMBURSEMENT, AND WE BAKE THAT INTO THE ONGOING BUDGET, WOULD FIND OURSELVES IN A POSITION A YEAR FROM NOW OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW, NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THE THINGS WE BAKED INTO THE BUDGET. OKAY, OKAY, THAT EXPLAINS IT. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH ON THAT. SO WITH THE ONE TIME MONIES THAT YOU SAID CITY MANAGER. OH I SEE, THANK YOU [01:10:06] MAYOR, I DIDN'T. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR, BUT SO THAT SHOULD OF LIKE OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNTND THAT SHOULD BE PUT INTO THE RESERVE. IS IS THAT WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THAT? YES, MA'AM. MY RECOMMENDATION WITH RESPECT TO ONE TIME MONEY AND WHAT MY BUDGET PRIORITY HAS, HAS BEEN IN PUTTING THIS BUDGET TOGETHER, IS THAT WE DO TWO THINGS WITH IT. ONE IS RESERVE IT FOR FUTURE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE AND FUTURE DOWNTURNS, FUTURE LEGISLATIVE ENACTMENTS. AND THE SECOND THING THAT WE SHOULD DO IF WE HAVE ONE TIME MONEY LYING AROUND, IS USE IT TO CHANGE THAT DOWNWARD SLOPING CURVE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT WE'RE IN A DOWNWARD FISCAL CYCLE AND PUSH THE CURVE UPWARD BY IMPROVING OUR CORRIDORS AND MAKING THE ENVIRONMENT MORE CONDUCIVE FOR BUSINESSES TO CITE HERE, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE OF OU TAXES PAID BY SALES TAX AND COMMERCIAL TAX, AND REDUCE THE TAX BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTS TO A LOWER LEVEL. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. AND THEN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I STILL HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. NOT ABOUT ONE TIME. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT THAT ALL DOWN. SO WITH I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE EMPLOYEES. THE MERIT RAISES. SO IS I THINK THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE EXPLAINED IT. CITY MANAGER WE'RE GIVING THIS TO ALL THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES FULL TIME OR MERIT, LIKE BASED ON EVALUATIONS. I WORK IN A PUBLIC ENTITY. SO I KNOW HOW IS HOW IS THAT BROKEN DOWN? WE DO THEM BASED ON EVALUATIONS, BUT BUT ONLY TO A SLIGHT EXTENT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S NOT LIKE AN EMPLOYEE WILL GET A 10% RAISE BECAUSE THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. IT'S A RANGE THAT RANGES FROM, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, WE'VE RANGED THEM AND WE DO IT ANNUALLY. WE ADJUST THIS MAYBE FROM 2.5% ON THE LOW END TO 3.5% ON THE HIGH END, SO THAT THE BETTER EMPLOYEES GET SLIGHTLY MORE COMPENSATION. IT'S NOT LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE GREAT DISPARITIES IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU WOULD DOLE OUT FOR RAISES. THESE ARE REALLY THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS. MONEY IS ACTUALLY DESIGNED JUST TO KEEP PEOPLE EVEN WITH INFLATION. WE CALL THEM MERIT RAISES BECAUSE WE HAVE A MERIT COMPONENT IN THEM. BUT THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF THE 3%, AND WE BASE IT OFF OF WHAT'S BEEN THE INFLATION IN THE PRIOR YEAR TO TRY TO KEEP THE GENERAL SCHEDULE EMPLOYEES CLOSE TO THE MARKET. AS AS I POINTED OUT, IN THE YEARS THAT WE HAD NINE AND 10% INFLATION, THERE WERE NOT NINE AND 10% RAISES IN THIS CITY. AND SO THAT CAUSES, EXCEPT FOR SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS, POLICE AND FIRE, WHERE WE IN FACT HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE MARKET TO MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF OFFICERS THAT WE WANT IN THOSE POSITIONS. AND GAL WHO'S GOT A VERY VIGOROUS COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR HIRING PEOPLE IN THE ELECTRIC UTILITIES IN THE REMAINDER OF THOSE POSITIONS, THOSE EMPLOYEES SIMPLY JUST FELL BEHIND. AND THAT'S, AS I SAID, WE HAVEN'T ADJUSTED THOSE GENERAL WAGE SCHEDULES SINCE 2018, 2018. IF YOU TRY TO HIRE SOMEBODY TODAY WITH A 2018 WAGE SCHEDULE, YOU'LL SEE THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE FACING. YES. AND ACCORDING TO HERE, IT LOOOOS KE THEIR HEALTH BENEFITS ARE RAISING 6%. SO THE MERIT THREE, IS IT GOING TO BE WASHED? WELL, IT'S 6% OF WHAT THEY'RE PAYING NOW. IT'S GOING UP BY 6%. THEY'LL STILL THE MERIT INCREASE IS LARGER. THE 3% ON THEIR TOTAL SALARY IS GREATER THAN THE 6% ON THEIR HEALTLTH COMPLAINT BA SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT MARGIN. ALTHOUGH IT IS IMPACTFUL AND IT'S MORE IMPACTFUL TO OUR LOWER PAID EMPLOYEES, THAT IS THE LOWER YOUR YOUR PAID AS AN EMPLOYEE HERE, THE MORE IMPACTFUL THAT IS TO YOU. AND YOU'LL HEAR WHEN HR COMES HERE TODAY, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF AND WE'RE ADDRESSING IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND OFFER SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES FOR HEALTH INSURANCE FOR PEOPLE SO THAT THEY DON'T FIND IT TOO EXPENSIVE. THE ONE THING WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO DECIDE, I SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD THE. I HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN FEEDING MY FAMILY AND HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE ON MY JOB, BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WILL ACTUALLY LEAVE AND GO TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN AFFORD THE HEALTH INSURANCE. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE THAT BALANCE WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BREAKING THIS DOWN FOR ME. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. AGAIN. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER TRAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. GREAT PRESENTATION. A LOT OF NUMBERS TO PROCESS THROUGH. QUICK QUESTION ON PAGE 15 ON A YES BUDGET. RIGHT. IS THE PROPOSED YES BUDGET. YES. APPROVED FOR THE TAX RATE ELECTIONS. WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL NINE FIREFIGHTERS AND EMERGENCY DISPATCHERS. AND THE WHOLE LIST IS ABOUT $5 MILLION. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE IN A FINANCIAL CHALLENGE, AND PART OF THE TAX RATE ELECTION THAT WE WANT TO SHIFT THE EARLY. I SAW IT THREE AND MOVE FROM THE DEAF SERVICES TO GENERAL FUNDS, AND THEN WE LOWER $0.01 OVERALL [01:15:08] FOR THE RESIDENTS. SO THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT. JUST COLLABORATE ON THIS OR KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON, ON OUR RESIDENTS ON SOME OF THESE SERVICES? IF WE DON'T HAVE THE. YES. WHAT IS THE IMPACT IN TERMS OF RESIDENTS CAN SEE IT? THANK YOU. SO I'LL START AND SEVERAL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS WILL BE PRESENTING TODAY AND WILL SPEAK AND HAVE YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEM SPECIFICALLY. BUT GENERALLY WE STARTED WITH BUILDING OUT THE NO BUDGET TO PROTECT OUR CORE SERVICES. AND SO IF THE PROPOSITION DOES NOT PASS, MAJORITY OF OUR CORE SERVICES ARE PROTECTED. THERE ARE SOME TRADE OFFS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE MADE IN TERMS OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND LIBRARIES, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE COUNCIL AND ARE OUTLINED HERE. BUT THE LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR CORE SERVICES WILL BE PROTECTED AS THEY ARE TODAY FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. HOWEVER, THIS IS A REALLY A MULTI YEAR LONG TERM LOOK AT THE CITY'S FINANCIALS. WE'VE PRESENTED THE GARLAND PLUS FIVE TO THIS COUNCIL BEFORE. AND I THINK MIKE'S TALKED ABOUT THIS EVERY YEAR. JUST EVEN JUST LOOKING AT THE THE MERIT COMPONENT, YOU HAVE A 5%, $5 MILLION COST TO PROVIDE THIS BASE COMPENSATION TO GENERAL SCHEDULE, GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEES. YOU ONLY HAVE 2 MILLION ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR PROPERTY TAX GROWTH. THAT'S A THAT'S A DEFICIT OF 3 MILLION JUST ON THAT ONE LINE ITEM. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY LINE ITEM THAT INCREASES EVERY YEAR THAT THE CITY FACES COST PRESSURES FROM. I MEAN, JUST TALKING ABOUT OUR GROUP, HEALTH GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE, THAT'S BEEN INCREASING 8 TO 10% ON THE CITY SIDE. AND THE CITY'S BEEN WORKING TO, YOU KNOW, RESTRUCTURE OR LOOK AT PLAN ADJUSTMENTS THAT DON'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT ALSO DON'T ALSO DON'T RAISE OUR EMPLOYEES COSTS FOR THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE TO THAT SAME 10%. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND THAT THAT BALANCING ACT. SO A BIG COMPONENT OF THE YES BUDGET WILL BE TO SHORE UP FUNDING IN SERVICE AREA LEVELS WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE SOME STAFFING ENHANCEMENTS TO MAINTAIN KIND OF WITH OUR METROPLEX CITIES OR ENHANCE OUR RESPONSE TIMES OR RATIOS IN TERMS OF OUR DAILY OPERATIONS, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE WON'T MAINTAIN OUR CORE SERVICES. IT'S MORE OF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE. BUT AS PART OF THAT YES, BUDGET SCENARIO, WE ALSO HAVE THE. WE'RE ALSO ENSURING THAT WE CAN FUND THAT SUSTAINABLY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE RESERVES COME IN, BECAUSE SB TWO WILL STILL CONTINUE TO BE AN IMPACT ON US. AND THE LEGISLATIVE CYCLE POSES SOME AMOUNT OF UNKNOWNS. SO WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING WE HOLD A PORTION OF THAT, YES, VOTE IN RESERVE TO BE ABLE TO FUND THESE. YOU KNOW, WITH OUR GENERAL REVENUE GROWTH OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. BUT THIS WILL BE A ONGOING DYNAMIC FOR THE CITY IN SOME FORM OR FASHION THAT THIS IS WHEN THE LEGISLATURE PASSED SB TWO. THEY WANT CITIES TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND TO MAKE THIS REQUEST OF THEIR COMMUNITIES, IF THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE THE REVENUE BASIS FOR THEIR GENERAL FUND. THIS IS HOW THEY STRUCTURED THAT LEGISLATION. SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE CITY OF GARLAND WILL BE DOING IT. AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE ACROROSS THE METROPLEX THAT OTHR CITIES ARE ARE IN OUR SAME PREDICAMENT AND WILL ALSO BE GOING TO THE VOTERS TO EITHER GET A TAX RATE INCREASE OR POTENTIALLY LIKE US ASKING FOR THAT SHIFT TO WHERE WE'RE STILL REDUCING THE OVERALL TAX RATE COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. BUT WE ARE ASKING TO REALLOCATE AND REBALANCE THAT BETWEEN FROM OUR DEBT SERVICE OVER TO OUR OUR OWN OR OUR DAILY OPERATIONS. MR. TRAN, TO FOLLOW UP DIRECTLY ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT SERVICE VELS, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE SERVICE LEVELS THEY'RE GETTING FOR THE BUDGET. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, AS ALLISON POINTED OUT, YOU WILL HEAR TODAY JUST BY WAY OF ONE SIMPLE EXAMPLE, EMERGENCY SERVICES DISPATCHERS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL HEAR FROM RESIDENTS IS THEY'LL CALL 911 AND THEY'LL BE HOLD TIMES, THE HOLD TIMES YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE A REFLECTION OF THE ADDITIONAL CALLS, THE CALL VOLUMES IN FIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS HAVE GONE UP SUBSTANTIALLY. SOMEBODY CALLS BECAUSE OF A MEDICAL PROBLEM. AS WE BECOME AN AGING COMMUNITY, THERE'S HIGHER PEOPLE WHO CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND AND YOU HAVE LONGER WAIT TIMES ON 911. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS IS TRYING TO ADDRESS AS AN ENHANCED SERVICE LEVEL IS TO BRING THOSE DISPATCHER WAIT TIMES DOWN SO THAT WHEN OUR RESIDENTS CALL 911, IT'S LESS LIKELY THAT THEY'LL FACE A LENGTHY HOLD TIME ON 911. AND SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF ENHANCED SERVICE LEVELS WE'RE LOOKING AT R HERE. YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT [01:20:05] RESIDENTS WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT PARK SECURITY PEOPLE LATE NIGHT IN THE PARK MAKING LOUD NOISES NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. ENHANCED PARK SECURITY IS DESIGNED TO TRY AND SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BY ADDING TO PARK SECURITY. YOU'LL HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TODAY. YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE AT OUR ANIMAL SERVICE, WHERE AN ANIMAL SERVICES, WHERE WE HAVE EXPANDED GREATLY BY BUILDING AN ANIMAL SHELTER THAT'S MUCH LARGER THAN OUR ANIMAL SHELTER, THE THE PERSONNEL NEEDS IT TAKES TO TAKE CARE OF THE NUMBER OF DOGS WE NOW KEEP THERE, AND CATS WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 300 DOGS THERE AT A TIME WHERE WE USED TO HAVE MAYBE 100. AND THE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL ARE DESIGNED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE CAPACITY OF DOGS THAT WE HAVE. AND SO I THINK AS THE DAY GOES ON, YOU'LL HEAR FROM DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT THOSE SPECIFIC SERVICE LEVEL ENHANCEMENTS FROM EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BY THE END OF THE DAY OF HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ENHANCE AND HERE'S THE PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGERS AND THE WHOLE TEAM. AND I JUST RECEIVED THE THE REPORT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS VERY GREAT NUMBERS. AND TELL THEM HOW MANY VOLUME THE PHONE CALL THAT WE WE SERVE. SO IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL. WITH [2. Department Presentations on the FY 2026-27 Proposed Budget] THAT, WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET. WE'LL START WITH GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT. THANK YOU ALLISON. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING, DARYL KLEIN. GARLAND. POWER AND LIGHT. LET'S SEE IF I CAN. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY OUR PROPOSED REQUEST FOR THE 2026 2027 OPERATING BUDGET. THE WAY I'VE GOT THIS STRUCTURED IS WE'LL GO FROM THE DIVISIONS WITH THE LARGEST AMOUNTS OF REQUESTS DOWN TO THE SMALLEST. AND FIRST WE'LL START WITH OUR PRODUCTION. THIS WOULD BE OUR GENERATING UNITS, OLINGER AND SPENCER. WE'RERE LOOKING AT ABOT $1.7 MILLION TOTAL REQUEST. OF THAT, ABOUT 370,000 IS ONGOING. AND AROUND 1.4 MILLION IS ONE TIME. WE'VE GOT FOUR PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED AS FAR AS OLINGER PLANT MAINTENANCE. THE FIRST PROJECTS IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE 1.36 MILLION REQUEST IS FOR OLINGER UNIT THREE. WE NEED TO REFURBISH THE FLUE GAS RECIRCULATING FAN MOTOR, AND BASICALLY THAT'S FOR PURPOSES OF EMISSION QUALITY. THE FLUE GAS IS THE GAS THAT COMES OUT OF THE EXHAUST. IT GETS RECIRCULATED BACK INTO THE SYSTEM SO YOU CAN IMPROVE AND CONTROL THE EMISSIONS. SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'LL NEED TO DO FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. FOR OLINGER UNIT FOUR, WE NEED TO REPLACE A FAILED VIBRATION MONITORING PROBE. OLINGER UNIT ONE, THIS IS THE UNIT WE'RE BRINGING BACK. WE HAVE A TURBINE GENERATOR INSPECTION AND OVERHAUL THAT NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED BEFORE IT COMES BACK. AND THEN LASTLY, WE DO HAVE SCREENS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE WATER INTAKE SYSTEM THAT KEEP OUT DEBRIS BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE SUCKING IN WATER FROM THE LAKES. IT HELPS TO KEEP OUT DEBRIS. WELL, THIS SPRAY WASH SYSTEM THAT CLEANS THOSE SCREENS NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. AND SO THAT'S THE FOURTH OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOOOKING ATOR THE OLINGER PLANT MAINTENANCE. AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM IS TO ADD TWO PRODUCTION OPERATION SUPERVISORS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OLINGER ONE THAT'S HEDULED TO COME BACK. AND WE HAVE NO ONE THAT HAS EXPERIENCE IN OPERATING THAT ON A FULL TIME BASIS. WE HAVE SOME OF OUR COUPLE RETIRED PART TIME EMPLOYEES THAT USED TO OPERATE AND WERE SUPERVISORS OVER THAT PLANT, AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO COME BACK AND HELP US GET THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TRAINING THE EMPLOYEES AND THEN GET THE UNIT BACK UP AND RUNNING. AND SO WE'VE GOT TWO POSITIONS HERE FOR OPERATION SUPERVISORS FOR THOSE FOLKS, AND THAT'S [01:25:02] $366,000. THE NEXT ITEM IS SYSTEM OPERATIONS. THIS WOULD BE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE TAKEN THE TOURS ON THE G, P, AND L, THIS WOULD BE THE FOLKS THAT ARE OVER ON THE SECOND FLOOR AT DUCKWORTH. AND THEN ALSO THE GROUP THAT IS OUT AT MCINTYRE THAT DOES ALL THE GRID CONTROLLING. AND SO WE'VE GOT TWO REQUESTS. THE FIRST IS FOR HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE SUPPORT, BOTH FOR G, P AND L AND TMPA. YOU MAY RECALL THAT WITH TEXAS MUNICIPAL POWER AGENCY THAT WE ARE THE OPERATORS, AND ALSO WE DO THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE FOR TMPS TRANSMISSION SYSTEM. AND SO WE GET REIMBURSEMENT VIA T M PAY FOR THOSE COSTS OF THE $508,000 REQUEST REQUESTED HERE, 69,000 OF THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH TMPA. MOST OF THESE ITEMS ARE GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH EITHER CYBERSECURITY OR PHYSICAL SECURITY, IN PARTICULAR ON THE CYBER SECURITY OR NETWORK SECURITY SIDE. EVERY ONE OF OUR STATIONS HAVE FIREWALLS, AND SO WE PERIODICALLY GO THROUGH AND REPLACE THOSE. AND THIS IS PART OF THE REPLACEMENT. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SOME COMPLIANCE SOFTWARE SUPPORT APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE UTILIZING. AND THAT'S PART OF THE REQUEST AS WELL. THE SECOND ITEM IS UNDER FREQUENCY LOAD SHED AUTOMATION. SO ERCOT HAS MADE A CHANGE WITH REGARDS TO THE FREQUENCY LEVELS OF WHEN LOAD SHEDDING OCCURS. CURRENTLY THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS. THEY'RE ADDING FIVE ADDITIONAL LEVELS. AND WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT'S AUTOMATED TO TRIGGER WHENEVER THOSE FREQUENCIES ARE MET AND START DOING THE LOAD SHEDDING PROCESSING ON THE SYSTEM. SO WE'LL NEED TO DO PROGRAMING THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS REQUEST IS, $100,000 FOR THE PROGRAMING OF THAT SYSTEM. OUR NEXT ITEM IS FOR OUR DISTRIBUTION OPERATIONS. WE HAVE REQUESTS OF $536,000. OF THAT, $400,000 ROUGHLY IS ONGOING. AND 123,000 IS ONE TIME ARMY HOSTING FEES. SO THIS IS THE ADVANCED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE, ALSO KNOWN AS SMART METERS. THESE ARE THE HOSTING FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE METER DATA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT AROUND THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE'LL HAVE THAT SYSTEM INTEGRATED WITH OUR OTHER SYSTEMS. SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE THE HOSTING IN PLACE. AND THAT'S A REQUEST OF 263,000 MATERIALS COST INCREASE. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ABSORBING THE INFLATION INCREASE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH MATERIAL COST. BUT NOW WE'RE COMING IN TO A POINT WHERE WE NEED A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS. IN ADDITION, WE KNOW THAT IT SEEMS LIKE JUST ABOUT EVERY YEAR WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF A WEATHER EVENT ON THE SYSTEM THAT ENDS UP COSTING MORE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF MATERIALS. THIS WOULD HELP ADDRESS THIS AS WELL. AND THAT'S $150,000 REQUEST. THIRD ITEM IS A JOINT USE POLE AUDIT. THIS IS EVERY FIVE YEARS WE GO OUT AND LOOK AT WHO IS ON OUR POLES. TYPICALLY THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR CABLE OR TELECOM COMPANIES THAT ARE ATTACHED. AND WE'LL DO AN AUDIT. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE COST OF THE AUDIT IS REIMBURSED BY THOSE PARTICULAR ENTITIES. LAST ITEM IS WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN UPDATE, A REFRESH OF SOME OF OUR SAFETY ITEMS, SOME OF OUR TRAINING. THIS IS GOING TO BE TRAFFIC CONTROL AND FORKLIFT TRAINING FOR OUR DISTRIBUTION GROUP. AND THAT'S A REQUEST OF $33,000. TRANSMISSION OPERATIONS. LOOKING AT A REQUEST OF $450,000. AND IF YOU MAY RECALL, TRANSMISSION COST, THAT'S G, P AND L ASSOCIATED IS DIRECTLY RECOVERED VIA OUR TRANSMISSION COST OF SERVICE RATE, WHICH IS SPREAD ACROSS ALL THE RATEPAYERS IN ERCOT. AS FAR AS RECOVERY. IN ADDITION, TMPA AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE DO TRANSMISSION FOR THEM. SO FOR THE TMPA TRANSMISSION OPERATIONS AS REQUESTED $272,000. THIS IS PRIMARILY ASSOCIATED WITH VEGETATION MANAGEMENT AT THEIR STATIONS. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE BIRD CONTROL ITEMS THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT IN, WHETHER YOU REALIZE IT OR NOT, BIRDS ON THESE LATTICE TOWER STRUCTURES, THEY BUILD THEIR NEST AND. THEY CONTRIBUTE TO TO POTENTIAL FOR OUTAGES BECAUSE OF JUST THE BODILY FLUIDS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. BEING THERE CAN IS SURPRISING, YOU WOULDN'T THINK, BUT THEY CAN ACTUALLY CAUSE AN OUTAGE. AND SO WE'RE PUTTING UP MORE BIRD GUARDS TO, TO PREVENT THOSE. FORGOT MY LIDAR. SO SEVERAL YEARS AGO, HOUSE BILL 4150 MADE A REQUIREMENT THAT ALL [01:30:04] TRANSMISSION SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR SYSTEM AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING CLEARANCE REQUIREMENTS ACCORDING TO ELECTRIC STANDARDS. AND SO THIS IS A REQUEST BOTH FOR US AND TMPA. THESE ARE CALLED LIDAR SERVICES. THIS IS WHERE THEY USE A LASER TO GO IN AND BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION ON THE CLEARANCE BETWEEN THE GROUND AND THE LINE. AND SO THIS IS 177,000 OF THAT, 177,000 113,000 IS ASSOCIATED WITH TMPA. ANDHEN LAST ITEM HERE IS ON THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE. WE'VE GOT $332,000 TOTAL REQUEST OF THAT. WE'VE GOT UTILITY NETWORK IMPLEMENTATION PROJECT. THIS IS $200,000. OUR GIS SYSTEM IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE VENDOR. AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT SYSTEM. THIS $200,000 IS FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES BY A THIRD PARTY TO COME HELP US WITH DATA MIGRATION, AS WELL AS THE INTEGRATION OF THE GIS SYSTEM INTO OTHER COMPONENTS THAT WE USE, SUCH AS OUR OUTAGE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, OUR DESIGNER SYSTEM THAT WE USE FOR OUR ENGINEERING PROJECTS ON DISTRIBUTION. AND SO THIS WOULD BE $200,000 TO HELP SUPPORT THAT EFFORT. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS CYBERSECURITY SOFTWARE MONITORING SERVICES. THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE INTERNAL AUDITS REPORT OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SO WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS HERE FOR BOTH MONITORING WITH REGARDS TO MONITORING THE TRAFFIC ACTIVITY THAT'S TRYING TO HIT OUR SYSTEM, AS WELL AS SOFTWARE SECURITY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF SOME OF OUR SYSTEMS. AS FAR AS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE TOTAL REQUEST OF ABOUT $3.6 MILLION FOR 2026 2027. IF YOU LOOK OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THIS IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HISTORICALLY HAVE REQUESTED EACH YEAR, SOMEWHERE, USUALLY BETWEEN 3 TO $4 MILLION. AND THEN OF THAT $3.6 MILLION, ONE TIME MONEY IS ROUGHLY 2.6 MILLION AND ONGOING OF 1.1 MILLION. OUT OF THAT 3.6 MILLION, WE HAVE ROUGHLY $455,000. THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH TMPA THAT WILL BE REIMBURSED, PLUS ABOUT $90,000 ASSOCIATED WITH THE POLL AUDIT. THAT WILL ALSO BE A REIMBURSEMENT TO US. AND AS MENTIONED ALREADY, THERE'S NO PROPOSED RATE INCREASE ON THE ELECTRIC SIDE. I THINK ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE THAT'S THERE. INFORMATION OUT ON OUR WEBSITE, GPL TEXAS.ORG, WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AND DO A COMPARISON OF OUR RATES TO THE RESIDENTIAL RATES AND THE COMPETITIVE AREA. AS OF JULY 1ST, WE'RE A LITTLE OVER $0.02 BELOW THAT AVERAGE. AND OUT OF THE ROUGHLY 60 PROGRAMS THAT ARE THERE, WE'RE NUMBER SIX AS FAR AS LOWEST. SO AGAIN, THAT INFORMATION IS OUT THERE FOR FOR COUNCIL AND IT'S UPDATED MONTHLY WITH THAT. TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON, FIRST, ON BEHALF OF ALL GPO USERS CITYWIDE, THANK YOU FOR NO RATE INCREASE. WHAT IS ODINGA'S EXPECTED FUNCTIONAL LIFE BASED UPON WHERE WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW WITH REGARDS TO THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE 10 TO 15 YEAR RANGE FOR OLINGER UNITS ONE, TWO AND THREE. UNIT FOUR IS THE NEWEST OF THE UNITS. IT ACTUALLY, GIVEN THE WAY THAT WE OPERATE THE SYSTEM AND THE WAY THAT ERCOT'S OPERATING ITS SYSTEM, ITS UTILIZATION IS FAIRLY LOW FOR ITS AGE. AND SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE'D HAVE LONGER LIFE OUT OF OLINGER UNIT FOUR. AND WITH THE OPERATIONAL BEING PRETTY LOW, IS IT? I DON'T WANT TO SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, GO PUT YOUR YOUR FAVORITE PET TO SLEEP, BUT IS IT STILL WORTH POURING MONEY INTO OLINGER WHEN WE'RE NOT USING IT AS OFTEN? YES. SO, SO WHAT WE DO IS IN FACT, WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT WE ALSO DO LONG TERM ANALYSIS AND PLANNING OF OUR UNITS VERSUS THE MARKET. OUR UNITS SERVE AS A FINANCIAL HEDGE. IF YOU IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE ERCOT MARKET, ERCOT, AT THE END OF THE DAY IS THE ENTITY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PHYSICAL DELIVERY OF ELECTRONS THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM. AND SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, OUR UNITS [01:35:07] DO NOT DIRECTLY SERVE THE G, P, AND L OR THE CITY OF GARLAND. THEY THEY ARE USED AS A HEDGE AGAINST THE MARKET PRICE. AND SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S STILL VALUE IN THOSE UNITS VERSUS THE MARKET PRICE FROM A HEDGE STANDPOINT. AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THAT, THAT OUR RATES ARE ROUGHLY $0.02 LOWER THAN THAT AVERAGE NUMBER, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF A PAID FOR ASSET, AND WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHEN THE MARKET IS CHEAPER. WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN THE UNITS WHEN THE MARKET IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE RUN THE UNITS AND NOT HAVE TO INCUR THAT, THAT HIGHER COST THAT'S IN THE MARKET. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT BECAUSE IT ALWAYS COMES UP AND IT'S ALWAYS SUCH A HIGH, YOU KNOW, DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND SO THAT EXPLANATION IS FANTASTIC FOR ANYONE THAT IS WATCHING. AND SHOUT OUT TO THE TWO LADIES THAT ACTUALLY ARE HERE THIS MORNING WITH US, BECAUSE THAT IS AN HISTORIC MOMENT, YOU GUYS. SO THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. I THINK THAT IT HELPS HELP HELP SOME OF US THAT ARE NOT AS SAVVY ON G, P, AND L ISSUES, UNDERSTAND WHY WE KEEP POURING A LITTLE MONEY INTO IT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND IF I CAN JUST REAL QUICK, I NEED TO PULL IT UP HERE SO I GET IT CORRECT AND I DON'T. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, OUR ENERGY COST $165 MILLION OUT OF OUR BUDGET. JUST JUST FOR THE ENERGY, JUST FOR THE ELECTRONS. SO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN A FEW MILLION DOLLARS INTO OLINGER, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, COMPARED TO WHAT YOU SEE FOR OUR OVERALL COST FOR ENERGY, I HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES SOME HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES SOME PERSPECTIVE. YEAH, DEFINITELY HELPS REALIZE WHAT THE ROI IS ON, ON THE PLANT AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IT UP AND RUNNING. THANK YOU SO THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR PRO TEM,. MR. MAYOR, JUST CURIOUS ON THE ON BOLINGER ONE, WHEN DO WE PROJECT THAT ACTUALLY GOING BACK ONLINE. SO SO RIGHT NOW THE THE HOPEFUL IS BEFORE THE SUMMER OF 2028. HOWEVER, FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, I'VE ASKED OUR FOLKS TO PLAN FOR THE END OF 2028. AND SO WHEN I SAY PLANNED FOR, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHETHER BUYING, YOU KNOW, MARKET TYPE OF PRICING, SOMETHING, A FORWARD BASE TYPE OF PRODUCT TO TRY TO HEDGE THAT POSITION. AND IF UNIT ONE HAPPENS TO BE AVAILABLE BEFORE THE SUMMER OF 2028, GREAT. IF NOT, WE STILL HAVE THAT POSITION, YOU KNOW, PROTECTED. BUT THAT'S THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS BEFORE SUMMER OF 2028. BUT I, I JUST KNOW HOW THINGS CAN GO. AND SO I'M, I'M, I'M EXPECTING THE END OF 2028. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. DARYL. ONCE AGAIN, VERY OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION. I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHEN YOU BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT YOUR BUDGET, 3 MILLION. YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE EXPENSES AND YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT REIMBURSEMENTS. AND I GUESS FOR THE AVERAGE LISTENER, YOU'D BE REALLY THINKING, MY GOD, ALL OF THAT MONEY. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE REVENUE, THE RATE OF RETURN, AND HOW G, P, AND L RETURNS MONEY BACK TO THE CITY AFTER THOSE EXPENSES? YES, SIR. SO THERE IS IT'S CALLED RETURN ON INVESTMENT, AND IT'S GOT TWO COMPONENTS THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO ONE IS 8% OF THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE OF THE RETAIL REVENUES. SO THOSE ARE JUST THE REVENUES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GARLAND POWER AND LIGHT CUSTOMERS. SO THERE'S AN 8% RETURN ON INVESTMENT BASED UPON THOSE REVENUES. THEN THERE'S ANOTHER COMPONENT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT'S CALLED A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF AD VALOREM TAX. SO JUST LIKE ANY OTHER UTILITY THAT WOULD BE IN THE IN THE CITY, WE RECEIVE BENEFITS FROM STREETS, FROM POLICE, FROM FIRE. AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME RECOGNITION OF THAT BENEFIT THAT WE RECEIVE. AND SO A PORTION OF THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT ALSO HAS THIS PAYMENT IN LIEU OF AD VALOREM TAX, WHICH IS BASED UPON OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR ASSET VALUE TIMES THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX RATE. SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE TWO COMPONENTS. IN ADDITION, WE ALSO RECEIVE SUPPORT SERVICES FROM THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S FROM, FROM LEGAL, FROM HR, FROM [01:40:02] PURCHASING. THERE'S DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE RECEIVE A BENEFIT FROM. AND SO THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ALLOCATION OF THOSE COSTS THAT WE ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT ULTIMATE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THAT GP IS MAKING, IT'S NOT JUST THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. THERE'S ALSO A SHARING OF SOME OF THESE OVERHEAD COSTS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO AND HELP BENEFIT THE CITY AS WELL. GIVE US A DOLLAR AMOUNT AS TO WHAT THAT MIGHT EQUATE TO. YOU'VE GOT WHAT'S MY RETURN ON INVESTMENT? THIS ONE? 27.9 I'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH HERE AND START ADDING THEM UP. LET'S SEE. 27.9 YOU'VE GOT GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE OF 5.2. SO THAT'S ABOUT 33 MILLION. TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS. EIGHT YOU'RE PROBABLY JUST ROUGH ROUGH ESTIMATE THERE OF SUPPORT SERVICES. YOU'RE PROBABLY GETTING CLOSE TO $50 MILLION OF CONTRIBUTION. THAT'S EITHER EITHER RETURN ON INVESTMENT OR SOME COST THAT WE ARE, WE ARE SHARING IN BECAUSE WE'RE RECEIVING SOME SUPPORT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS. SO 3,000,653 966 IS PRETTY MUCH A VERY SMALL PORTION OF WHAT'S BEING RETURNED. CORRECT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. AND YOU AND THE WHOLE. TEAM FOR THE EXCELLENT WORK AND HARD WORK THAT, LIKE COUNCILORS, MOORE JUST MENTIONED THAT YOU BRING IN THE CHECK IS $27.9 MILLION FOR GENERAL FUNDS WITH OUR CITY FINANCE CHALLENGE, WITH THIS KIND OF FUND THAT BRING IN TO OUR CITY'S ABLE TO FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE THE CORE SERVICES PROTECT US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON THAT. I MY AREA IS ON ON CORE, BUT MY MAIN MANY OF MY RESIDENTS ON THE G, P AND L, AND RECENTLY I SEE THAT I RECEIVE EMAILS. THEY ARE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE FROM T, P AND L STATS OF RESTORED SERVICES WHEN THEY HAVE SO. AND I HEARD THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT NO RATE INCREASE. SO THIS IS GREAT FOR FOR OUR RESIDENTS. SO THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT AND CONTINUE THE HARD WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. SIR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS GPL. I SEE NONE. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. MOVE ON. ONE MORE COUNCIL BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK. I'D LIKE TO GET GARLAND WATER UTILITIES UP HERE NEXT, PLEASE. MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE GARLAND WATER UTILITY FUNDING REQUEST AND RATE INCREASES PROPOSED FOR FY 27. MY NAME IS ANDREW LARKIN. I AM THE WATER UTILITIES FINANCIAL DECTOR. AND HERE'S CRYSTAL OWENS. SHE'LL BE MY EMOTIONAL SUPPORT FOR. SO WE JUST HAVE A FEW REQUESTS FOR THE FY 27 BUDGET. I WANT TO START OFF WITH THE DUCK CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT LEAD OPERATORS. SO WE'RE REQUESTING TWO ADDITIONAL FULL TIME EMPLOYEES THERE TO HELP US RUN THE DUCK CREEK PLANT. THIS IS A 247 OPERATION WHERE STAFF MUST BE ON ON SITE DOWN IN SUNNYVALE, 247 RUNNING THIS OPERATION. SO WITH TREATMENT PLANTS OF THIS SIZE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN OPERATOR IN CHARGE. THIS PERSON MUST HAVE A LEVEL, A LICENSE AND LEVEL A WASTEWATER. LICENSE HOLDERS ARE PRETTY RARE COMMODITY. AND WHEN WE GET THEM, WE WANT TO KEEP THEM AND WE DON'T WANT TO BURN THEM OUT. SO THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF LEAD OPERATOR THAT WILL PROVIDE SUPERVISION, GUIDANCE, EXPERTISE, PRIMARILY DURING THE NIGHT SHIFTS AND WEEKEND TIMES. OUR OTHER OPERATORS ARE ON CALL, BUT TO SPREAD THAT LOAD IS A BIG HELP FOR OUR OPERATIONS. NOT ONLY DOES IT PROVIDE A ANOTHER THE HEAD COUNTS, BUT IT PROVIDES A KIND OF PATHWAY FOR OUR OPERATORS TO PROGRESS AND MAKE IT TOWARDS MANAGEMENT LEVEL POSITIONS. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR TREATMENT PLANTS INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. YOU'VE HEARD US TALK ABOUT IT EVERY YEAR. THIS IS AN AGING PLANT. IT'S IN OPERATION SINCE THE 60S. AND WE NEED YOU KNOW, GARLAND RUNS LEAN. AND THIS PLANT, YOU KNOW, NEEDS AS MUCH HELP TO KEEP IT OPERATING AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE. OUR NEXT REQUEST IS ALSO FOR THE DUCK CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. YOU MAY HAVE TOURED THE FACILITY. IT'S A LARGE FACILITY, ABOUT 60 ACRES, AND THERE'S [01:45:06] SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE TO SORRY TO TRAVERSE THE SITE. SO RIGHT NOW OUR STAFF IS MOSTLY USING ELECTRIC CARTS, GOLF CARTS, AND OTHER SMALL CARTS TO GET AROUND THE SITE. THESE THINGS, THEY ARE NOT LASTING VERY LONG FOR US, NOT EVEN THE FIVE YEAR LIFE CYCLE. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE SEVERAL OF THESE CARTS WITH GASOLINE POWERED UTILITY TERRAIN VEHICLES. WE PROPOSE TO ADD TWO AT THIS POINT TO REPLACE SOME OF THESE AGING GOLF CARTS. BUT AS WE SEE, IF THEY THEY FUNCTION BETTER FOR US, LAST LONGER FOR US. WE MAY INCREASE THAT FLEET IN THE COMING YEARS. AND WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING A REPLACEMENT PICKUP TRUCK FOR ONE OF OUR AGED UNITS. THAT IS NOT BEING IS NOT PART OF THE FLEET POOL, IS NOT UP FOR REPLACEMENT AND HAS EXCEEDED ITS LIFE. SO OUR DUCK CREEK PLANT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S DOWN IN SUNNYVALE. IT'S ABOUT A 20 MILE DRIVE STAFF AND ACTUALLY 25 MILE TWO WAY SORRY, STAFF HAVE TO BRING SAMPLES EVERY DAY TO THE ROWLETT CREEK LAB. THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES WE HAVE TO COME OFF SITE FOR. AND AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE WOULD REALLY HELP OUR OPERATIONS, OPERATIONS STAFF AND OUR, OUR FINAL FUNDING REQUEST. YOU HEARD DARYL TALK ABOUT IT. IS THE SMART METER OR AM I HOSTING FEES? THIS IS A JOINT PROJECT BETWEEN THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND GPNL, AND THESE ARE THE HOSTING FEES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO RUN THE METER DATA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AS WELL AS THE FLEXNET REGIONAL NETWORK INTERFACE. SO THESE ARE THE TWO SYSTEMS. ONE IS HOW THAT DATA MAKES IT FROM THE METER AT YOUR HOME TO, TO THE UTILITY SERVERS, THE HUB. AND THEN THE SECOND SERVICE WOULD BE HOW OUR CUSTOMERS ACCESS THAT METER DATA ON THEIR OWN SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT THEIR CONSUMPTION PATTERNS AND USAGE TO BE ABLE TO CONSERVE WATER BETTER. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THIS WILL REALLY PUT MORE POWER IN THE HANDS OF OUR CUSTOMERS TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE USING AND SEE THAT EFFECT DIRECTLY. IT'S LIVE DATA. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROJECT SUMMARY SLIDE ON OUR FUNDING REQUESTS. OUR REQUESTS ARE INCLUDED IN BOTH THE YES AND NO BUDGETS FOR A TOTAL FUNDING REQUEST OF $575,000, 100,000 OF THAT BEING ONE TIME FUNDS FOR THE VEHICLE PURCHASES. NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER OUR PROPOSED RATE INCREASES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES. SO ON THE WATER SIDE, WE ARE PROPOSING A 3.6% RATE INCREASE FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER. THIS COMES OUT TO BE ABOUT $2.47. AND ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE OF THINGS, WE ARE PROPOSING A INCREASE OF 2.6% FOR THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER, WHICH COMES OUT TO BE $0.94. COMBINED, THIS IS A AVERAGE RATE INCREASE OF 3.3% OR $3.41. AND THIS IS BASED OFF OF OUR AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER, WHO USES ABOUT 6500 GALLONS OF WATER. AND THEIR SEWER BILL IS DETERMINED BY THEIR WINTER QUARTER AVERAGE, HOW MUCH WATER THEY USE IN THE WINTER MONTHS AT ABOUT 4500 GALLONS. THIS SLIDE SHOWS OUR NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES. THESE ARE ACTUALLY NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT MEMBER CITIES, AND WE'VE BROKEN THEM DOWN FOR THEIR WATER AND SEWER BILLS. BASED ON GARLAND'S AVERAGE CUSTOMER. SO 6500 GALLONS OF WATER, 4500 GALLONS OF SEWER. YOU CAN SEE GARLAND'S CURRENT AND PROPOSED TOTAL WATER UTILITY BILL. THEY'RE JUST BELOW THE MIDDLE OR SO, INCREASING FROM $1 OR 140, I'M SORRY, 104, 69 TO 108 TEN. ALL THE OTHER. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ALL OF THESE OTHER CITIES. THEY ARE THEIR CURRENT RATES. ALL OF THESE CITIES ARE GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING WE ARE RIGHT NOW, AND PUBLISHING WHAT THEIR PROPOSED RATE INCREASES WILL BE. I'VE BEEN SCANNING THE WEB TO GET THESE AS SOON AS I CAN, AND I CAN SAY THAT MOST OF THESE CITIES AND OTHER NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE PROPOSING BETWEEN 5 AND 10% RATE INCREASES FOR WATER AND SEWER. SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES ARE PROPOSING MAJOR STRUCTURE CHANGES TO HOW THEIR RATES ARE, HOW THEIR UTILITIES RECOVER THEIR REVENUE. RICHARDSON IS ONE OF THOSE. THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A MAJOR RATE STUDY AND PROPOSING SOME LARGE CHANGES TO THEIR FIXED AND VOLUMETRIC CHARGES. SO A LOT OF THESE CITIES ARE GOING THROUGH, I WOULD SAY, SORT OF A RECKONING. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH [01:50:05] 2% RATE INCREASES FOR A WHILE, BUT IT'S CATCHING UP WITH THEM. AND SOME OF THESE CITIES HAVE PROPOSED 10% RATE INCREASES TO THEIR RESIDENTS. HERE'S THE FIVE YEAR RATE FORECAST FOR THE GARLAND WATER UTILITIES RATES, AS WELL AS THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT'S WHOLESALE RATE. SO FIRST, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE LINE. THIS IS NORTH TEXAS WHOLESALE RATE FOR GARLAND. AND WE CAN SEE THAT THAT'S INCREASING B BY APPROXIMATELY 9, 12%, 12%, 5%, 8% OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO SOME PRETTY LARGE RATE INCREASES COMING TO US TO PURCHASE THAT WATER. AND TYPICALLY FOR GARLAND WATER UTILITIES TO PASS THAT RATE INCREASE ON TO OUR CUSTOMERS IS ABOUT LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT NORTH TEXAS IS PASSING TO US. SO THIS YEAR WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT THE 8% RATE INCREASE, AND WE'RE PROPOSING BELOW A 4% RATE INCREASE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. I JUST SHOW THE FIVE YEAR RATE FORECAST FOR NORTH TEXAS RIGHT HERE. BUT IF WE EXPAND THAT OUT AND LOOK AT THE TEN YEAR RATE FORECAST, OUR WHOLESALE RATE NEARLY DOUBLES. WE'RE AT $4.14 PER THOUSAND GALLONS CURRENTLY FOR 2036, THEY'RE PROJECTING A WHOLESALE RATE OF $8.04 PER THOUSAND GALLONS. SO WHILE WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO KIND OF KEEP THE RATES LOW FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE OUR COSTS ARE GOING TO BE INCREASING DOUBLE DIGIT, DOUBLE DIGIT DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. LET'S SEE. AND WITH THAT, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. I'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. AS YOU WERE AT THAT LAST PIECE OF INFORMATION, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE? WHAT WOULD HAVE TO TAKE PLACE TO KEEP US? FROM TAKING ON AS MUCH EXPENSE AS YOU'RE SAYING? IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE AT THIS POINT? WHAT WOULD WE HAVE TO DO TO KEEP OURSELVES PRETTY FLAT WITH THE MARKET? SO THERE ARE TWO PIECES THAT THAT WE MORE OR LESS HAVE CONTROL OVER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE NORTH TEXAS RATE METHODOLOGY IS, AND I'M SURE WE TALKED ABOUT THE TAKE OR PAY METHODOLOGY AND MOVING AWAY FROM THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, OUR UTILITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOWER OUR TAKE OR PAY THE AMOUNT OF WATER WE MUST PAY FOR, WHETHER WE USE IT OR NOT, BASED ON OUR ACTUAL USAGE. THIS WAS THE RESULT OF THE SETTLEMENT BETWEEN NORTH TEXAS AND ITS MEMBER CITIES. AND SO, BEGINNING IN 2033, OUR TAKE OR PAY AMOUNT WILL BE A FIVE YEAR ROLLING AVERAGE OF OUR ACTUAL TAKE. SO UP UNTIL NOW, WE'VE BEEN IN A WELL UP UNTIL A FEW YEARS AGO, WE'VE BEEN IN A SITUATION WHERE WE PAY FOR THIS WATER, WE USE THIS WATER. NOW WE CAN BRING THIS DOWN, AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THE WATER THAT WE USE. SO WE'LL BE HAVING A REAL FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO CONSERVATION. UP UNTIL THE SETTLEMENT, THERE WAS NOT MUCH OF A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE AT THE UTILITY LEVEL TO CONSERVE WATER. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE SIDE. THE OTHER SIDE WOULD BE LOOKING AT OUR UTILITIES OPERATING COSTS. AND WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB AT KEEPING THOSE FLAT OVER THE YEARS. AND OUR RATE INCREASES THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR OUR RESIDENTS HAVE REALLY BEEN BASED ON OUR NORTH TEXAS PASS THROUGH. SO THAT'S THE OTHER LEVER WE CAN PULL, AND WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB AT KEEPING THOSE COSTS FLAT. SO I HATE TO SAY THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN KEEP IT FLAT GOING FORWARD. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT LIKE I SAID, OUR OUR BEST BET LEVER IS THAT CONSERVATION AND BRINGING DOWN THAT AMOUNT OF WATER WE MUST PAY FOR BASED ON THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE. IT SOUNDS LIKE IN THE PAST WE'VE DEALT WITH SOME OF THE FUTURE SITUATION AND NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH ACTUAL. THAT'S CORRECT. WELL, SO WE ACTUALLY HIT THAT THAT MOST WATER WE EVER USED 13.7 BILLION GALLONS IN 2005. AND THAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE HAD TO PAY FOR BETWEEN 2005 AND 2019 WHEN THE SETTLEMENT WAS REACHED. SO WHEN GARLAND WAS GROWING USING A LOT OF WATER, WE HIT THAT PEAK. AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE SEEN CONSERVATION BRING OUR ACTUAL USAGE DOWN BY QUITE A BIT. BUT WE HAVEN'T REALIZED THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT OF THAT UNTIL THE SETTLEMENT WITH NORTH TEXAS. AND I'M ASKING THE QUESTION BECAUSE I SEE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A [01:55:01] SLIGHT MODERATE INCREASE. YES, SIR. BASED ON THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU WERE USING, I'M JUST HOPING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE NEXT YEAR OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T INCREASE IT SUFFICIENTLY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A VERY HIGH INCREASE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS SITUATION OF COMPLAINTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. ABSOLUTELY NO. SO WHAT I DO IS I BASE MY FIVE YEAR RATE IN RATE FORECAST ON A LEVEL INCREASE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE YEARS. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ONE YEAR OF NOTHING AND ONE YEAR OF 10%. SO NICE. SMOOTH INCREASE IS WHAT WE FORECAST FOR EVERY YEAR. AND EACH YEAR WE COME BACK AND ADJUST TT BASED ON WHAT WE ACTUALLY SEE. BUT, BUT OUR INTENT IS TO KEEP THESE RATE INCREASES AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. ANDREW. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU, ANDREW, FOR BEING HERE. YOU'VE SPOKE OF HOW THE WE RUN VERY EFFICIENT OPERATIONS. AND I AGREE ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE I GUESS SLIDE FOUR WHICH IS THE SMART METER, THE THE HOSTING OF THAT. WELL, THE SMART METERS IN GENERAL, THAT ALLOWS US TO NOT RUN AS HAVE TO HAVE AS MANY METER READERS. CORRECT. YOU ARE CORRECT IN THAT OUR METER TECHNICIANS WILL NOT HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND THE CITY COLLECTING THE DATA IN THE WAY THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING. NOW, A LOT OF THESE METER TECHNICIANS WILL HAVE TO LEARN A NEW SKILL SET TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THE ARMY NETWORK. BUT THERE ARE SOME. I WOULD SAY THERE ARE SOME DECREASED COSTS. ABSOLUTELY. WITH TRAVEL AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, WE AREN'T HAVING CREWS DRIVING THE STREETS, BUT THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO RESPOND TO ISSUES IN THE FIELD. IT'LL JUST BE KIND OF A SHIFTING OF WHAT THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES REALLY ARE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE SAVING MONEY AND GETTING ADDITIONAL FEATURES. WE'RE DEFINITELY GETTING ADDITIONAL FEATURES. I CANNOT SPEAK TO WHETHER THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENTS BUDGET IN THEIR METER READING GROUP IS DECREASING OR NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER SCOTT. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. GOOD JOB. SO MY QUESTION WAS KIND OF MAYOR PRO TEM ON THIS SMART METER. HOW DO ALL OF OUR HOMES HAVE THIS RIGHT NOW THAT NO, NO, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE IN EARLY STAGES OF IMPLEMENTATION, I BELIEVE WILL BE ROLLING OUT THE INITIAL DEPLOYMENT AREA, WHICH IS KIND OF THE PILOT AREA THAT WE'LL BE TESTING THAT WILL BE COMING IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. OKAY. AND WITH THAT, WHEN THEY EVENTUALLY GET TO THE HOMES, ARE THE IS THIS ONGOING FEE TO MAINTAIN IT, THE HOST ES? IS THAT GOING TO GO UP? BECAUSE WE'RE JUST A SMALL TOKEN OF IT AND IT WILL HAVE TO GO. TYPICALLY, WE SEE TECHNOLOGY SERVICE FEES INCREASE BY, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S AROUND INFLATION, SOMETIMES IT GOES HIGHER. BUT BUT TYPICALLY WE SEE IT INCREASE INCREASED BY AROUND 3% INFLATION. OKAY. OKAY, GOOD. AND THEN MY FINAL THING IS THAT I HAVEN'T TOURED THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT. SO I WILL WAIT TO SEE IF WE GET THOSE UTVS AND I'LL BE. SO YOU JUST CALL ME IF THAT HAPPENS, AND THEN I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE A TOUR. THEY WILL DRIVE YOU AROUND ANYWAYS, I LIKE THAT WE WILL NOT FORCE YOU TO WALK. I SAW 60 ACRES. YEAH. LET ME. IT IS. IT IS A FASCINATING TOUR. I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN DUCK CREEK, I MEAN, ROWLETT CREEK IS GREAT, BUT DUCK CREEK IS. IT'S OUR WORKHORSE. IT REALLY PUTS A. I MEAN, IT DOES THE MOST WORK FOR THIS REGION. AND YEAH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, BUT IT IS A FASCINATING TOUR. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE THE TOUR AS WELL. IT IS A WONDERFUL. NOSE OPENING EXPERIENCE. COUNCILMEMBER TRENT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. YES, I'M AWAY FOR THE TOUR AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ANDREW AND CRYSTALS. I'M EXCITED FOR THE I HEAR THE THE THE SMART METER. DOES THAT MEAN WE, THE RESIDENT CAN ALSO SEE THE ELECTRICITY USERS AS WELL? YES. THAT'S AWESOME BECAUSE I THINK RESIDENTS WILL BE HAPPY TO SEE THEY CAN CHECK THE USAGE OF WATER BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE'S A LEAKING OF THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM OR ANYTHING. THE WATERS GO ALL THE WAY UP AND THEY NEVER KNOW UNTIL A YEAR LATER MAYBE. SO I'M EXCITED TO HEAR THIS. FOR $2.47 PROPOSED TO INCREASE FROM FROM WHAT I HEAR IS THAT MOSTLY THAT BECAUSE THE PASS DOWN THE COST FROM THE NORTH TEXAS WATER AND ALSO WE. OKAY ENOUGH BECAUSE I. I HEARD THAT RECENTLY THERE IS AN INCIDENCE. I'M NOT SURE RELATE TO THE WATER, BUT IT'S THE, THE WASTE WATERS. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO THE [02:00:06] ENVIRONMENT. IF WE IF WE DON'T FIX THAT AND, AND IT SPILLS OUT TO THE ENVIRONMENT. AND IT'S TRUE LIES, WHATEVER THE EQUIPMENT IS, UPGRADE IS COST A LOT OF MONEY. RIGHT? I HEARD $1 MILLION OR MORE. SO THANK YOU FOR VOTE TO THAT FOR A REASON. THE ORIENTATION I GIVE TO OUR NEW COUNCIL. SO I APPRECIATE THIS A LOT TO LEARN AND I, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SIR, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR UTILITIES? NONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL. WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A WHILE. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK. SHOULD BE BACK IN TEN MINUTES. AT 1040 WE ARE IN RECESS. WELCOME BACK TO THE WORK SESSION. WE'LL CONTINUE NOW WITH OUR NEXT PRESENTATION. THIS IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WELCOME OUR NEW INTERIM POLICE CHIEF, SCOTT THORNBURG HERE. WOW. THANK YOU. DIDN'T KNOW YOUR FIRST ROLE WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY SITTING IN FRONT OF A BUDGET PRESENTATION. BUT. YEAH. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. STARTING OFF, OUR FIRST REQUEST IS FOR EIGHT PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS. JUST IN REVIEW, THE PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCH DIVISION OF POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY IS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE AND EMS. WE DO DISPATCH FOR ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT GROUPS, NOT JUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ADMINISTER IT. OUR POLICE SAFETY DISPATCHERS ARE DIVIDED INTO FOUR DIFFERENT PLATOONS, WHICH DREW ARE DOING 12 HOUR SHIFTS. SO WE HAVE MINIMUM STAFFING OF EIGHT IN EVERY DAY. OR FOR EACH OF THESE PLATOONS. FOUR OF THEM ARE ON RADIO DISPATCH. SO WE HAVE POLICE, NORTH POLICE, SOUTH FIRE DISPATCH AND NCIC. SO THAT ONLY LEAVES WHEN WE'RE AT MINIMUM STAFFING THREE PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS TO ANSWER 911. THIS IS A COMMON COMPLAINT, AND I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF YOU ABOUT IT. WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY GET OVERWHELMED WITH CALLS THAT PEOPLE ARE PUT ON HOLD. WHEN WE HAVE A NON-EMERGENCY, WHEN 911 CALLS ARE COMING IN AND NON-EMERGENCY LINES ARE COMING IN, THEY WILL PUT THE NON-EMERGENCY CALLS ON HOLD SO THAT THEY CAN GET TO 911. ADDITIONALLY, WHEN THERE IS A MAJOR INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS, MULTIPLE PEOPLE WILL CALL 911 AT THE SAME TIME FOR THE SAME INCIDENT. AND IF THERE'S MORE THAN THREE PEOPLE CALLING IN, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT BEING ANSWERED. AS TIMELY AS WE WOULD LIKE TO. THEN WE ALSO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL DISPATCHER THAT'S ROVING AND PICKING UP WHERE THINGS ARE GOING ON. THIS IS A COMPARISON, KIND OF A GARLAND AND IRVING, TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE WORKLOAD WITH US, WITH OTHER CITIES NOW, THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN DIFFERENT DISPATCH CENTERS. SOME OF THEM ARE DISPATCHING FOR DIFFERENT UNITS BESIDES POLICE, FIRE AND EMS, LIKE ANIMAL CONTROL OR SOMETHING. AND CITIES OBVIOUSLY HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON DEPENDING UPON THE WAY THE CITY IS ORGANIZED. AND BUT WE HAVE EIGHT MINIMUM IN GARLAND, AND YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT A HIGHER CALL LOAD THAN IRVING. IRVING HAS A LOT MORE DISPATCHERS THAN US, AND THEY HAVE A MINIMUM OF NINE. OUR REQUEST WILL GET US UP TO A MINIMUM DISPATCH OR MINIMUM STAFFING OF NINE. FOR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR REQUEST IS TO HAVE TEN ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS. THEY WILL ALL BE GOING TO PATROL, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE'VE ONLY REQUESTED FOUR VEHICLES. WE HAVE A PATROL FLEET. THESE OFFICERS WILL BE DISTRIBUTED AMONG SEVERAL DIFFERENT SHIFTS, AND WE DON'T NEED ONE VEHICLE FOR EACH POLICE OFFICERS. AS A RESULT, IT'S BEEN QUITE A FEW YEARS SINCE WE'VE RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR TEN ADDITIONAL OFFICERS THAT WOULD GO TO PATROL. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, CITIES ARE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME AS S FAR AS THE NEEDS. HOWEVER, IN GENERAL, THERE'S A BENCHMARK THAT WE ALL TRY TO FOLLOW WHEN IT COMES TO HOW MANY OFFICERS PER POPULATION. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WHEN WE'RE BENCHMARK HERE, WE'RE AT THE LOWER END OF THE SPECTRUM. AS A RESULT OF THAT, IF WE GOT TEN ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS, THAT WOULD PUT US A LITTLE HIGHER UP. WE STILL ARE ARE VERY LEAN POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS WE HAVE, BUT WE'RE GETTING THE JOB [02:05:01] DONE. SO WITH THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OPERATIONAL REQUESTS? I SEE NONE, PLEASE CONTINUE. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT THING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS OUR SEIZURE FUND. WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING SOME OF OUR SEIZURE MONEY ON. THESE ARE SOME OF THE RULES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED. WE SHOW YOU EACH YEAR, THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, WE HAVE THREE ONGOING EXPENSES. WE ARE GOING TO PUT $35,000 INTO AMMUNITION TO HELP SUPPLEMENT OUR OTHER NORMAL AMMUNITION BUDGET, THE $45,000 FOR COURT FEES. THIS IS THE COURT FEES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SEIZURES. SO THIS IS MONEY THAT IS SPENT TO HELP DEAL WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE SEIZURE FUNDS. AND THE LAST ONGOING EXPENSE IS BY MONEY FOR OUR NARCOTICS UNIT, SO THAT WE CAN HELP FUND SOME OF THE NARCOTIC INVESTIGATIONS. I'D ALSO TALKED TO YOU JUST RECENTLY ABOUT TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ARE WANTING TO START BUILDING ON OUR REAL TIME CRIME CENTER. A REAL TIME CRIME CENTER IS GOING TO BE A MULTI YEAR, YOU KNOW, PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE US TIME TO BUILD. THIS WILL BE FOR THE START. THIS WILL JUST BE FOR SOME EQUIPMENT AND FOR SOME SOFTWARE. AS WE START TO BUILD OUT THAT OVER A LOT OF DIFFERENT YEARS, YOU'LL SEE THAT EVOLVE. BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE BEGINNING. SEED MONEY FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. COUNCILMEMBER TRENTON. THANK YOU. MAYOR DIDN'T KNOW MY FIRST ON THE QUEUE. THANK YOU, SCOTT, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. DURING OUR COUNCIL'S ORIENTATIONS, MANY DEPARTMENTS, I HEAR THE SAME MESSAGE THAT WE UNDERSTAFFED, UNDERPAID. WE DO MORE WITH LESS. SO PUBLIC SAFETY IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO IT'S GREAT THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF, ESPECIALLY DISPATCHERS AND OTHERS IN PUBLIC SAFETY. SO I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS THE NEW ROLES AND APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE WHAT PARTICULAR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAFETY RESIDENT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE NONE. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. I'LL LET YOU OFF EASY THE FIRST TIME HERE. YEAH. WE'LL ASK NEXT OR. I'LL ASK NEXT THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT COME UP. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MR. CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY. SAVANNAH, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME IN THE BACK ROOM BACK HERE. THANK YOU FOR NOT DELETING MY POWERPOINT. I WAS REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT. SO. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN. WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TODAY ON NINE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS. YOU JUST HEARD POLICE DEPARTMENT TALKING ABOUT THEIR STAFFING ISSUES. FIRE DEPARTMENT IS VERY SIMILAR IN THAT SITUATION. THIS IS A TOTAL PACKAGE OF 1.12 MILLION ONGOING 973, THE ONE TIME COST OR THE 154. THE DETAILS OF THIS. THESE POSITIONS ARE TO SUPPORT OUR CURRENT STAFFING, NOT ADDING ADDITIONAL SEATS. THIS IS JUST TO COVER SOME OF THE UNSCHEDULED LEAVE THAT WE EXPERIENCE YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND HELPS REDUCE SOME OF OUR OVERTIME EXPENSES. THE ONE TIME COST. THIS IS TWO COMPLETE SETS OF PPE. THIS IS PART OF OUR CANCER PREVENTION PROGRAM THAT YOU ALL HAVE HELPED FUND SO ADEQUATELY FOR US. THANK YOU. THE CBA MASKS THE REGULATORS THEIR INITIAL UNIFORM ISSUANCE. IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY UNIFORMS WE HAVE TO GIVE THESE GUYS AND GALS WHEN THEY GET HIRED, AND THEN SEND THEM TO THE ACADEMY AND THEIR TRAINING EXPENSES. THE ONGOING, OF COURSE, IS SALARIES, WAGES, BENEFITS, CONTINUING EDUCATION, OUTSIDE TRAINING, INSIDE TRAINING, AND REQUIRED DUES AND [02:10:02] MEMBERSHIPS. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE STATE CERTIFICATION LICENSING FEES. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE METROPLEX AVERAGES, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE STAFFING RATIO. CURRENTLY, GARLAND IS AT 1.13 ON FIREFIGHTERS PER 1000 POPULATION. THE PROPOSED WITH THE NINE WILL GET US TO A 1.17. THE GOAL IN A CITY THIS SIZE IS. YOU CAN SEE THE BENCHMARKING THERE. IRVING. MESQUITE. PLANO. RICHARDSON. GRAND PRAIRIE IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1.3 AND 1.6. THESE CITIES ARE ARE SIMILAR TO US IN TYPES OF CALLS AND CALL VOLUMES. YET THE STAFFING YOU SEE IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT IN GARLAND THAN IT IS IN THOSE CITIES. BUT WE UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S PROBABLY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WITH THIS STRATEGIC PLAN BORE WE CAN MAKE MAJOR ADJUSTMENTS, BUT THE OVERTIME EXPENSES ARE CATASTROPHIC AND STRESSFUL ON OUR FIREFIGHTERS. SO WE DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THOSE NON NEW POSITIONS. AND THE SUMMARY ON THAT AGAIN IS 1.128 MILLION. AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL START WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. HEY HOW ARE YOU. GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING PRETTY GOOD. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOUR OVERTIME IS ALSO CATASTROPHIC ON US. I KNOW IT IS. WE LOVE YOU GUYS, THOUGH. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT UNIFORMS AND BUNKER GEAR AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. AND THIS INCLUDES TWO SETS OF BUNKER YEARS PER PERSON. IS THAT. YES, MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW THAT MOST OF OUR FOLKS KNOW THAT WE HAVE TWO SETS OF BUNKER GEAR. THE OTHER, WELL, I GUESS WHAT, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE HAD THREE WORKING FIRES ALL AT THE SAME TIME. AND THE THE POOR GUYS AT STATION ONE. HAD BOTH PAIRS OF BUNKER GEAR THAT WERE SOAKING WET AND THEN GOT CALLED OUT TO ANOTHER CALL. SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING TWO SETS OF BUNKER GEAR WITH THE NINE NEW POSITIONS. HOW DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT YOUR OVERTIME? I EXPECT IT WILL BRING IT DOWN. THE CHALLENGE IS IT TAKES US 21 MONTHS TO GET SOMEBODY FROM THE STREET TO PARAMEDIC. SO THE INITIAL IMPACT ON THE OVERTIME IS NOT GOING TO BE NOTICEABLE. THE GOAL IS THE FOLLOWING YEAR THAT WE SEE THAT REDUCTION IN OVERTIME FROM THESE THESE FOLKS HERE. AND WHILE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE THE 21 MONTHS, ARE THEY OUT OF STATION IF THEY'RE NOT IN SCHOOL OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? THEY START OUT LET'S THIS THIS CLASS WILL START END OF FEBRUARY AND. BUT I'M GOING TO USE JANUARY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS JANUARY CLASS HIRES IN AT THE START OF JANUARY. AND THEY COME OUT OF THE FIRE ACADEMY IN JUNE OR JULY, GO THROUGH A FIVE WEEK GARLAND WAY PROGRAM WHERE WE TEACH THEM THE SPECIFICS OF. UNIQUE TO GARLAND, AND THEN THEY GO TO THE STREET. SO THEY HIT THE STREETS EARLY AUGUST AND THEN OFF TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL THE FOLLOWING JANUARY. PARAMEDIC SCHOOL, THE CLASS THAT IS IN RIGHT NOW IS IS FINISHING UP PARAMEDIC SCHOOL. SO WE'RE IN WHAT END OF JULY? THEY WILL BE NATIONALLY REGISTERED PROTOCOL EXAMED AND CREDENTIALED PROBABLY IN SEPTEMBER. AND THEN A THAT POINT THEY ARE BACK TO THE STATION. SO THEY DO. IN THEIR FIRST YEAR, THEY'LL DO ABOUT 3 TO 4 MONTHS AT A FIRE STATION, WORKING AT TOWARDS STAFF AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THEN OFF TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL. THEN THEY COME OUT AFTER THAT 21ST MONTH. AND THEN CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR WE HAVE A SHORTAGE, RIGHT? WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDERSTAFFED ON FIRE. SO THIS NINE POSITIONS WOULD GO TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE SHORT STAFF. YES, MA'AM. OUT OF THAT PLAN, THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR MASTER PLAN. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S EASY ON YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FIRE COUNCIL? THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY FROM THE BUDGET, OVER TIME, ABOUT $3 MILLION A YEAR, TWO AND A HALF TO THREE, TWO AND A HALF. AND WE ADD NINE MORE POSITIONS. AND EARLIER, YOU MENTIONED YOU ANSWER TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. THAT IS MAY NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM STILL [02:15:05] OVER TIME FOR THIS YEAR, BUT MAYBE THE FUTURE YEAR. SO IF YOU THINK THAT WE INCREASE LIKE A FEW MORE FIREFIGHTERS, THAT WILL COMPLETELY SOLVE OVERTIME PROBLEM OR NO, NO, THE THE FIRE SERVICE EVEN I SHOWED THAT NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS PER THOUSAND IN IRVING AND ALL THESE OTHER CITIES. EVERY FIRE CHIEF THAT I KNOW IN THE DFW METROPLEX, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND AROUND THE COUNTRY IS GETTING BEAT UP OVER ALL THE OVERTIME THEY'RE SPENDING. IT IS THE OVERTIME IS OUT OF CONTROL IN EVERY CITY, ESPECIALLY THE MAJOR CITIES. SO WILL THIS SOLVE THE OVERTIME? NO, SIR. WE'LL IF WE ADDED NINE MORE, WOULD IT SOLVE THE OVERTIME. NO, BUT IT IT BRINGS IT DOWN TO A MORE MANAGEABLE LEVEL. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR FIVE YEAR AVERAGE. 2.5 MILLION IS ABOUT WHERE WE THINK WE NEED TO BE. AND SO WE'RE INCREASING OUR OVERTIME FUNDING. AND THEN THESE NINE NEW POSITIONS HELP US MAINTAIN THAT 2.5 MILLION. THANK YOU. BUT ALSO, I THINK WE HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS, THE FIRE CITIZENS ACADEMY CLASS. I HEARD THAT A GOOD ONE I, I WILL TRY TO JOIN, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT YOU HAVE THE BUDGETS TO CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM. IT'S IT'S GREAT FOR OUR RESIDENTS. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU. IT'S ONE OF OUR SHINING STAR PROGRAMS THAT WE REALLY LIKE TO HAVE. AND. AND WE LOVE WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS COME THROUGH IT AS WELL. IF WE CANNOT FIND THE FUNDING FOR THAT CLASS THIS YEAR, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO TRY TO SEEK SOME SPONSORSHIPS FOR IT. AND SO THAT WE CAN STILL CONDUCT THE CLASS. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT EVERYTHING IN LINE. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM DENTON. THANK YOU. ALMOST. I GOT OFF SO EASY. DON'T WORRY. I'LL TEXT YOU THE REAL STUFF LATER. BUT SINCE WE SPOKE ABOUT THE CITIZENS FIRE ACADEMY. I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY OPINION ON THAT. I THINK THAT. BY THE CITIZENS FIRE ACADEMY CAN BE DONE AT A VERY MINIMAL, MINIMAL COST. IF WE'RE THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, I'VE GOT SOME SUGGESTIONS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER, BUT I. I THINK THAT WITH OUR GARLAND ON THE RISE PLAN AND IMPLEMENTATION, THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE SO DETRIMENTAL TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. AND I KNOW THAT IT MIGHT SOUND A LITTLE CRAZY LIKE THAT. I VALUE THESE THINGS SO MUCH. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE CITIZENS THAT GO THROUGH THE FIRE ACADEMY, THE POLICE ACADEMY, ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, NOT ONLY IS IT BENEFICIAL TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE, WHAT, 30 PEOPLE IN A CLASS, GIVE OR TAKE. NOW YOU'VE GOT 30 NEW PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND OR AT LEAST HAVE A FAR BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR DEPARTMENT AND WHAT YOUR GUYS GO THROUGH AND HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING AND RESPECT, RIGHT? BUT ALSO THAT ALSO BRINGS THE CAMARADERIE. IT GIVES PEOPLE THAT SENSE OF BELONGING AND SENSE OF VALUE TO THEIR CITY, BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE THAT EMOTIONAL CONNECTION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT? AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THEY CAN JOIN THE FIRE CLUB AND THEN THEY'RE ADOPTING A STATION. SO NOW YOU'VE GOT VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE FOR FRE TAKING CARE OF YOUR STATIONS, YOU KNOW, SPORADICALLY. SO FOR WHAT THAT IS WORTH, I, I WOULD 100% BE AGAINST THE FIRE CLUB EVEN TAKING A BREAK. WE KNOW WHAT COVID DID T THE, THE FIRE ACADEMY. AND IT WAS ROUGH TO GET THAT BACK. AND SO I, I THINK THAT WITH WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND REALLY GET PEOPLE TO VALUE AND RESPECT OUR CITY AS A WHOLE, I, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD BE DOING A DISSERVICE TO OURSELVES BY NOT OFFERING THAT. SO I AGREE 100%. WE GOT WAYS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE'LL FIND WAYS. I'VE ALREADY THOUGHT IT THROUGH. WE'RE GOOD. I'LL TEXT YOU LATER. THANK YOU CHIEF. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FIRE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU ALL. OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS FROM OUR ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I'LL HAVE A GREAT DAY. [02:20:21] GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR MISTER BETTS. ALL RIGHT, LET'S DIVE INTO IT. SO WE'RE REQUESTING ONE ADDITIONAL VETERINARY TECHNICIAN. DUE TO THE INCREASE OF INTAKES, MEDICAL NEEDS, COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, THIS IS A CRITICAL POSITION TO OUR MEDICAL DEPARTMENT. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. WE BROUGHT IN WELL OVER 800 ANIMALS LAST MONTH, WHICH RESULTED IN 430 STERILIZATIONS. THAT'S JUST SURGERIES. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE HURT HEALTH, INJURED ANIMALS, ETCETERA. SO MUCH NEEDED. IT'S CRITICAL. AND THAT IS IN OUR IT'S IN BOTH BUDGETS. SO YES AND NO. SO WE ARE REQUESTING THREE FULL TIME ANIMAL CARE TECHS. CURRENTLY WE'RE RELYING ON THREE TEMPORARY KENNEL TECH POSITIONS, CONVERTING THESE POSITIONS INTO FULL TIME BUDGETED POSITIONS WILL HELP WITH STAFFING STABILITY, RETENTION, CONTINUITY. WE CARE FOR WELL OVER 300 ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER UPWARDS AT 350, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF THE YEAR. SO MUCH NEEDED. NOW THIS IS GOING TO BE AN OFFSET COST. HERE WE ARE GOING TO CONVERT OUR TEMPORARY FUNDING TO THESE THREE POSITIONS TO HELP. IN SUMMARY, VET TECH POSITION IS IN BOTH 58,389. THREE FULL TIME ANIMAL CARE TECHS, 51,827, AND THE TOTAL IS 110 216. QUESTIONS. COUNCIL COMMISSIONER FOR ANIMAL SERVICES. COUNCILMEMBER, ANIMAL SERVICES CONSISTENTLY BRINGS LOW COST PET VACCINATION PROGRAMS TO THE CITY. WHAT IS YOUR NEXT ONE? AUGUST 12TH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SEGOVIANA. WOMAN MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING. SO Y'ALL HOSTED FOR THE FIRST TIME A NIGHT ONE WE DID JUST REALLY QUICK. COULD YOU LIKE TELL US ABOUT THAT? YEAH. SO THE NEED IS THERE. EVERY CLINIC, IT'S MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND WE'RE GETTING MORE IN THE COMMUNITY NEEDING THIS BECAUSE OF THE HEAT. WE THOUGHT ABOUT DO WE CANCEL THIS? DO WE NOT. BUT THE NEED IS THERE AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO CANCEL IT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT WAS A WILD IDEA, HONESTLY, LIKE A WEEK AND A HALF BEFORE WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. AND THE IDEA CAME UP AS A KID GOING TO THE SKATING RINK AND THEY HAD A SLUMBER PARTIES AND I JUST THREW IT OUT. I SAID, WHY DON'T WE DO AN OVERNIGHT VACCINE CLINIC TO BEAT THE HEAT? IT WAS A WILD IDEA. AND I THINK ALL OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER, WE MADE IT HAPPEN. AND THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. A AND WE GOT POSITIVE FEEDBACK SO MUCH THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT AGAIN. AWESOME JOB. THANK YOU FOR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. THAT'S VERY CREATIVE. YES. GOOD JOB. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON STILL IN FAVOR OF THE SLEEPOVER FUNDRAISER SITUATION? I SAW THAT ON FACEBOOK AND I WAS LIKE, WE GOT A LOT OF MONEY. YES. YEAH. I MEAN, HAVE YOU GUYS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH HOSTWAY ABOUT GETTING YOU SOME VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES LISTED ON THEIR SITE? WE HAVE WE HAVE IN THE PAST, SO WE PARTNER WITH FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS AND THEY HELP WITH MONITORING AND SUSTAINING OUR VOLUNTEERS. WE HAVE UPWARDS OF 300 PLUS REGISTERED VOLUNTEERS WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND ANIMAL SERVICES. SO WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH JOSUE. I THINK WE'RE STILL IN COMMUNICATION WITH HIM ON HOW CAN WE KIND OF MERGE THINGS TOGETHER. SO YES, I THINK THAT THAT PROGRAM WOULD BE ESPECIALLY FOR THE ONE OFFS. YOU KNOW, SOMEONE JUST IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO GO AND DO AND AS A WILD HAIR THAT DAY AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO SIT AT HOME. THEY CAN COME AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO COME VOLUNTEER, I THINK WOULD BE AT LEAST SOMEWHAT OF AN FROM STAFF. JUST A GENTLE REMINDER THAT, THAT WE'RE HERE ON THE 2627 BUDGET. AND SO IF WE IT ALLEVIATES SOME BUDGET. THAT'S WHY IT WAS A GENTLE REMINDER. OKAY. YOU'VE BEEN HANGING OUT WITH ENGLAND TOO LONG, SCOTT. BUT YOU GUYS ARE DOING A FANTASTIC, [02:25:05] FANTASTIC JOB. THE NIGHT MARKET OR THE NIGHT CLINIC LOOKED LIKE A HUGE, HUGE SUCCESS. SO KEEP IT UP AND KEEP, KEEP SCOOPING, SCOOPING ALL THE STUFF. YEAH, THAT'S ALL I'M DONE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANIMAL SERVICES? THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. MOVE ON TO. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. I AM BECKY KING, MANAGING DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT FUND REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 27. WE ARE ASKING FOR SEVERAL POSITIONS AND OPERATING FUNDS IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE GARLAND ON THE RISE AND HOUSING STRATEGIC PLANS. AND SO WITHIN NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, WE'RE REQUESTING ONE SENIOR PLANNER POSITION FOR A TOTAL OF $105,543. THIS POSITION. IT ALSO INCLUDES AFFILIATED, YOU KNOW, OFFICE EXPENSES, EQUIPMENT, THE SENIOR PLANNER POSITION, IN CONJUNCTION WITH ASSISTANCE FROM OUR LIBRARY OUTREACH TEAM, WOULD ENABLE THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY TEAM TO DOUBLE THEIR FOCUS AREA WORK IN THE CITY. THIS WOULD MEAN CONDUCTING LAUNCHING TWO NEW WHERE THE HEART IS PROGRAMS EACH YEAR INSTEAD OF ONE. IT WOULD ALSO ENABLE US TO ROLL OUT SOME NEW GARLAND CARES PROGRAMS. ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THE HOUSING STRATEGY AS EXAMPLES. BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM ADOPT A BLOCK PROGRAMS WHERE THOSE ARE DEEMED NECESSARY, AS WELL AS PROVIDING OVERSIGHT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF SINGLE FAMILY INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THOSE WHERE WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE EXTERIOR OF PROPERTIES, NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITIES, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO EXAMPLES ARE LIKE THE BLOCK CHALLENGE GRANT OR THE RETOOLED HOME IMPROVEMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM IN LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS. IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO POSITIONS, AS WELL AS ONE VEHICLE FOR A TOTAL OF $285,749. THE TWO POSITIONS WOULD ALSO BE INSTRUMENTAL IN IMPLEMENTING THE HOUSING STRATEGY AND GARLAND CARES PROGRAMS. SO IT WOULD BE, FOR ONE REHABILITATION SUPERVISOR AND ONE DEPARTMENT COORDINATOR. THIS WOULD SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL INFILL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, DOING PROJECT INTAKE AND CASE MANAGEMENT FOR GARLAND CARES REQUEST THAT REQUIRED MORE EXTENSIVE WORK THAT GO BEYOND THE. THE VOLUNTEER GARLAND CODE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS OVERSEEING ALL OF THOSE SINGLE FAMILY INCENTIVE PROGRAMS THAT ARE NEW AND RECOMMENDED IN THE HOUSING STRATEGY THAT GO BEYOND THE EXTERIOR. SO ONES THAT GO INTO THE INTERIOR. THAT'S WHERE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INSPECTORS WOULD BE INVOLVED. AND THEN FINALLY, FOR OPERATIONS FUNDING, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT BUDGET INCLUDES ONE TIME FUNDS OF 1.2 MILLION TO HELP LAUNCH SOME OF THESE NEW INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. THERE'S ALSO A $5 MILLION GARLAND ON THE RISE RESERVE FUND. THAT RESERVE FUND IS UNAPPROPRIATED OPERATING FUNDS FOR PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES AS IDENTIFIED FOR REDEVELOPMENT, GARLAND CARES AND OTHER INITIATIVES IN THESE STRATEGIC PLANS. IT IS MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL. IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE INITIATIVE, AND IT WILL BE GUIDED BY AN INTERNAL STEERING COMMITTEE. AND THOSE FUNDS WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO BE APPROPRIATED THROUGH A BUDGET AMENDMENT. AS WE WORK THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE STRATEGIC PLANS. IN ADDITION TO THESE FUNDS, THERE ARE 2025 BOND FUNDS IN NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY AND IN [02:30:01] ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE STRATEGICALLY LEVERAGED. SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE TO DEPLOY THOSE FUNDS, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE ECONOMIC FOCUS AREAS AND IN THE GOALS WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND SO HERE'S THE SUMMARY SLIDE AGAIN, ONE SENIOR PLANNER POSITION, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, TWO POSITIONS IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. AND I MIGHT MENTION THE DEPARTMENT COORDINATOR POSITION IS HOUSED IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT SERVES BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND WOULD BE DOING THE INTAKE FOR ALL OF THE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS AND THE GARLAND CARES PROGRAMS FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS. AND THEN THE GROWTH INITIATIVES, FUNDING OF 1.2 MILLION IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUDGET AND THE $5 MILLION RESERVES FOR GARLAND ON THE RISE FOR A TOTAL OF 6.6 MILLION. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DENTON. I'M EXCITED THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO TWO WRE THE HARDEST PROJECTS UNDER THIS. BUT WHAT WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT TIME WISE TO COMPLETE THOSE. LIKE WOULD WOULD THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING ALLOW US INSTEAD OF A. WHERE THE HARDEST PROJECT TAKING THREE YEARS TO GET TO COMPLETION? WOULD THAT ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO KNOCK SOME OUT IN A MORE TIMELY OR A SHORTER TIME FRAME? SO I EVERYWHERE THE HEART IS NEIGHBORHOOD IS DIFFERENT. AND SO WHAT PROJECTS THEY UNDERTAKE KIND OF DICTATES HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE. SOME OF THOSE GO FASTER THAN OTHERS. I KNOW YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE SHALLOW WALL AND SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD THERE, BUT, BUT SO WE WOULD BE LAUNCHING A NEW WHERE THE HEART IS AREA EVERY SIX MONTHS. BUT THIS POSITION THAT'S REQUESTED IS PRIMARILY TO HELP WITH GETTING PROJECTS EXECUTED. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. SO THIS ADDITIONAL OMB MEMBER, HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE IN THAT OFFICE IF WE ADD THIS MEMBER? CURRENTLY THERE IS A DIRECTOR AND THREE STAFF MEMBERS. SO THIS WOULD MAKE FOUR STAFF MEMBERS. AND THEN WE WILL BE REDIRECTING SOME OF THE TIME FROM THE LIBRARY OUTREACH TEAM TO SUPPORT THEM ON THE OUTREACH EFFORTS RELATED TO WHERE THE HEART IS. OKAY, OKAY. VERY GOOD. I WASN'T SURE WHERE WE'RE AT STAFF WISE THERE, BUT ONE ONE MORE THING DOES SEEM TO MAKE SENSE TO ME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVE ON TO. OUR NEXT DEPARTMENT IS PARKS AND RECREATION. HOW DO WE DO? OKAY, IT'S STILL MORNING. SO GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND MR. CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. LEE WILLIAMS, MANAGING DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. AND JOINING ME THIS MORNING, KERRY PACHECO. SHE'S PARK OPERATIONS DIRECTOR. AND ALBERT MONTEIRO, THE RECREATION DIRECTOR. SO WE WILL GET STARTED. OUR FIRST PACKAGE I IS SURFING. OH SORRY S SURF AND SWIM. THIS PACKAGE REQUEST IS FOR $677,000. IT IS IDENTIFIED IN BOTH OF THE BUDGETS AND IT IS FOR ONGOING FUNDING TO HELP WITH THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY THAT WE JUST OPENED. THE SENIOR CENTER. THIS IS ALSO IDENTIFIED IN BOTH BUDGETS, FOR A TOTAL OF A LITTLE OVER $45,000. THIS IS GOING TOWARDS OPERATIONAL SUPPLIES AND SEASONAL STAFF FOR THE FACILITY. THIS FACILITY IS ALMOST DOUBLE IN SIZE OF WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. SO WE DEFINITELY AND WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL BE VERY BUSY. SO WE DEFINITELY WILL NEED THE ADDITIONAL SEASONAL STAFF TO HELP WORK THE FRONT DESK. THE NEXT PACKAGE IS FOR CITY LANDSCAPING, MAINTENANCE AND ENHANCEMENT. [02:35:07] THE TOTAL FOR THIS IS A LITTLE OVER $675,000. THIS IS IDENTIFIED IN THE YES BUDGET ONLY. SO OF THAT TOTAL, 649,000 IS ONGOING AND 26,000 TOWARDS ONE TIME. THIS PACKAGE INCLUDES THE CIVIL SERVICE LEVEL ENHANCEMENT AT CITY FACILITIES, CONTINUATION OF MOWING SERVICES PREVIOUSLY SUPPORTED BY ONE TIME FUNDING AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THE NEW CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN MAKING. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE WILL STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THE THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ON BOARD, AND WE WILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN EVERYTHING. WE WILL JUST HAVE TO DO A REDUCTION IN OUR SERVICE LEVELS. IF THE YES BUDGET IS NOT IF THE TAX SWAP IS NOT APPROVED. SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS MAYBE IT'S LESS FREQUENT MOWING CYCLES, LESS TIMES THAT WE'RE IN A PARK DOING FERTILIZATION, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO BECAUSE THIS MONEY IS ONLY IDENTIFIED IN THE BUDGET. THE NEXT PACKAGE IS FOR THE VOLUNTEER GARLAND PROGRAM. YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROGRAM. AND SO THE TOTAL FOR THIS IS A LITTLE OVER $96,000. IT IS IDENTIFIED IN BOTH BUDGETS. THERE IS A BREAKOUT OF ONGOING AND ONE TIME FUNDS IN THIS REQUEST, ONGOING FUNDS OF $94,000. THE PACKAGE SUPPORTS THE EXPANSION OF THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM ALSO PROVIDES SOME SEASONAL STAFF FOR THEM SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST FALLING ON JOSUE AND KAITLIN ALL THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO RUN ALL OF THEIR EVENTS. THE NEXT PACKAGE IS FOR PARK SECURITY. THIS IS A REALLY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT ON. IT IS IDENTIFIED FUNDING IN ONLY THE YES BUDGET. IT IS ONGOING MONEY THAT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED. AND THIS JUST REALLY HELPS SEVERAL THINGS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, ASSET PROTECTION AND OPERATIONAL SUPPORT. IT'S BEEN, LIKE I SAID, VERY SUCCESSFUL. THEY PATROL AFTER HOURS, THEY GO AND DO RESTROOM CHECKS. THEY LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANY GRAFFITI OR VANDALISM OR THINGS THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY. AND SO IT HELPS US BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE PARKS AT A BETTER LEVEL THAN WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE ON JUST REGULAR INSPECTIONS AND NOT SEEING IT TILL THEN, OR CITIZEN COMPLAINTS. SO IN SUMMARY, FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET, WE HAVE SURF AND SWIM, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED IN BOTH BUDGETS FOR A LITTLE OVER 677,000. THE SENIOR CENTER IS IDENTIFIED IN BOTH BUDGETS FOR A LITTLE OVER 45,000. THE CITY LANDSCAPING MAINTENANCE AND ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM IS ONLY IDENTIFIED IN THE BUDGET FOR 649,000. VOLUNTEER PROGRAM IS IN BOTH BUDGETS FOR 94,000. IN ONGOING 2001 TIME FOR THE NEXT YEAR, AND THEN THE PARK SECURITY PROGRAM IS ONLY IN THE BUDGET AT ONGOING OF 90,000. SO A LITTLE OVER $1.5 MILLION IN REQUESTS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER. HELLO. SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. SO ON SLIDE FOUR, THE CITY LANDSCAPING, MAINTENANCE AND ENHANCEMENT. SO WHAT IS YOU WENT INTO LIKE LESS FREQUENT MOWING SCHEDULES AND FERTILIZATION SCHEDULES? WHAT ELSE WITH NO BUDGET CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE? TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE? YEAH. WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE THE AREAS IN WHICH WE WOULD HAVE TO DROP THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE. AND SO I THINK THAT THE MOWING FREQUENCY WOULD BE NOTICEABLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAVE LESS IMPACT ON THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO HAVE. A SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE COSTS LAST YEAR WERE ONE TIME FUNDED, AND THOSE WERE NEW THINGS THAT CAME ONLINE, SUCH AS HOLFORD RHODES, BEAGLE GREEN HERITAGE PARK, THE WEST LIBRARY, AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO BE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOUTH GARLAND LIBRARY, SENIOR CENTER BRAND ROAD. SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THOSE. AND SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS KIND OF LOOK AT ALL OF OUR TOTAL AREAS THAT WE MOW, WHETHER THAT'S STAFF OR CONTRACT AND PRIORITIZE. HOW DO WE STILL GET THIS DONE? WE CAN'T JUST NOT MOW, BUT CAN WE GO BIWEEKLY RATHER THAN WEEKLY? AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE WOULD ATTACK IT PROBABLY FROM DIFFERENT FRONTS IN THAT WAY. ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THE COURT KEEPING THE CORRIDORS MAINTAINED, RIGHT. I THINK THAT THAT REALLY FALLS INTO THE GARLAND ON THE RISE PROGRAM. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD CARVE OUT A PIECE OF THAT TO PUT IN BOTH BUDGETS, BUT I, I REALLY [02:40:07] WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SOMEONE COMES THROUGH OUR CITY, THAT THEY'RE DRIVING ON ROADS THAT ARE MAINTAINED AND THAT INCLUDES LANDSCAPING ON THOSE ROADS. SO, MR. CITY MANAGER, I THINK THAT THAT WITH RESPECT TO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN THE BUDGET ON AN ONGOING BASIS. I THINK THAT IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THE VOTERS DON'T APPROVE A REQUEST FOR CHANGE IN AN ONGOING BASIS, THAT AT LEAST WITH RESPECT TO THE CORRIDORS AND THE FAS, I THINK THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT AS A POTENTIAL USE OF THE ONE TIME MONEY THAT WE SHOWED YOU THAT ARE BEING SET ASIDE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN. THE PROBLEM IS, IF THE VOTERS DON'T APPROVE THAT AND WE USE THE MONEY FOR THAT PURPOSE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE SPEED AT WHICH WE CAN DO SOME OF THE REHABILITATION AND SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. YEAH, I THINK IT PUTS US IN A VERY PRECARIOUS SITUATION. I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M SORRY THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT. QUITE HONESTLY. THAT PART IS VERY SCARY TO ME. I'LL TALK MORE. I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. BUT THERE IN REGARDS TO THE FEES AND YOU'RE NOT THERE YET. SO I THINK THOSE WERE DISCUSSED SO WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS. WE DO HAVE SOME DATA ON YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED EARLIER. I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS FIRST, BUT PEOPLE ARE IN THE QUEUE. ARE THOSE RELATED TO THE BUDGET ITEMS OR TO THE FEES? OKAY. WE HAVE SOME BUDGET QUESTIONS. FIRST WE'LL GET TO. SO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE IN MOWING SCHEDULE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. COMPLETELY AT RANDOM WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE GENTLEMAN YESTERDAY ACTUALLY ABOUT SPIEGEL GREEN AND MOWING. AND HE IS A LAWN GUY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SPIEGEL GREEN. AND HE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REALLY WANTING TO GET IN WITH THE CITY TO DO, YOU KNOW, LAWN OR WHATEVER, MOWING. AND HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT LIKE, IF I COULD JUST LET ME DO ONE PARK FOR THE YEAR AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, LIKE THEY'LL BE BLOWN AWAY. SO THAT MADE MY WHEELS TURN. LIKE MAYBE WE COULD DO LIKE AN ADOPT A PARK WHERE A LOCAL CREW WOULD ADOPT THAT PARK. AND THEN THAT WOULD HELP US WITH OUR FREQUENCY OF MOWING SITUATION. JUST A THOUGHT. BECAUSE OUR VOLUNTEERS LIKE WE'RE GOOD, BUT WE'RE NOT THAT GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BILLY. CARRIE, ALBERT. GREAT JOB. QUESTION ON PAGE THREE, YOU TALK ABOUT PARK SECURITY. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE BY WAY OF IF THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, IS THAT GOING TO BE PRIVATE SECURITY AND HOW IS IT BEING PERFORMED PRESENTLY? SO IT'S ACTUALLY A PROGRAM THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. IT WAS FUNDED TWO YEARS AGO, AND THEN THIS PAST YEAR IT WAS NOT FUNDED, BUT WE. SO WE FUNDED IT AT A REDUCED LEVEL WITH OPERATIONAL MONEY THAT WE HAD WITHIN OUR BUDGET. AND SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE OPERATING IT THIS YEAR. AND IT'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT PARTNERSHIP. WE HAVE SOME STATISTICS THAT WE COULD PROVIDE DETAILS ON COUNCIL. BUT JUST IN THIS LAST QUARTER, THEY HAVE OVER 1100 PARKS. THEY'VE WORKED 156 HOURS. AND IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MAKING CONTACT EITHER WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE PARK AFTER HOURS. THAT SHOULDN'T BE WHETHER ON VEHICLE OR ON FOOT. THEY'VE RESPONDED TO TWO MAJOR PUBLIC SAFETY INCIDENTS. ONE WAS OVER AT RIVERTON PARK, AND THEN ONE WAS REMOVING A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER FROM THE PARK. THEY LET US KNOW ABOUT GRAFFITI VANDALISM. WE'VE HAD MORE THAN TEN OF THOSE THAT THEY REPORT. SO WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THAT IS THEN WE CAN IMMEDIATELY THAT NEXT DAY RESPOND AND BE ABLE TO GO OUT, ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. WHETHER, YOU KNOW, A CITIZEN REALIZING THAT SOMETHING'S WRONG AND REPORTING IT AND GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO IT MAKES THAT PROCESS MORE EFFICIENT. THEY MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESTROOMS ARE LOCKED OVERNIGHT AND THEN SAFE SO THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING USED FOR ENCAMPMENTS AND ANY BEHAVIOR THAT SHOULDN'T BE GOING ON IN THE PARK. SO IT'S BEEN A VERY, VERY POSITIVE PROGRAM. SO THESE ARE THESE ARE THESE ARE GARLAND POLICE OFFICERS. YES, YES. THESE ARE POLICE OFFICERS WHO WORK WHO WORK OVERTIME TO DO THESE PATROLS. YES. SO THEY ARE UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE. YES. [02:45:03] YES, SIR. AND THEY ALL CONTROL. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. I JUST WANTED TO JUST GIVE KUDOS FOR HAVING THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM ON BOTH BUDGETS. THAT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM, AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER ANSWERED IT, BUT I, I WANT TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF PARK SECURITY. WHAT I KNOW YOU SAID AFTER HOURS, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, ARE THE PARKS, DO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT HOURS? NO. WELL, I GUESS THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE SEPARATED OUT IS WHEN SURF BASE GOT SOME PARTICULAR HOURS, BUT THEY'RE OPEN FROM 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. BECAUSE THE PARK SIGNS, I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR SAID THAT THAT THEY STILL SAY MIDNIGHT. I KNOW AT AUDUBON PARK, AND WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES AT AUDUBON PARK, A LOT OF ISSUES. SO AS SOMEONE WHO RUNS THAT PARK AT 5 A.M. IT'S NOT HEALTHY. SO I, I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. I JUST WANTED TO STRESS THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON THANK YOU MA'AM. I HAD A QUESTION OR SUGGESTION. ANY QUESTIONS? CAN THAT HOLD TILL WE SEE THE PRESENTATION FIRST? OH OR AT LEAST THEY HAVE A FEW SLIDES THEY WANT TO RUN THROUGH. ARE YOU DONE? YOU HAVE MORE SLIDES OR. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE. THOSE ALLISON AND FARHAD WENT OVER THOSE EARLIER, BUT WE COULD PROBABLY PULL THAT BACK UP. MAYBE I JUST SAW THEM IN OUR HAND OUT HERE AND. OKAY. ARE THEY IN THE SLIDE DECK? SO SORRY. OKA JUST KIDDING. SURPRISE. HOLD ON. WE'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THAT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO. WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS. ALL RIGHT. SO ON THE RECREATION CENTER FEES, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS AN INCREASED RATE FOR THE MEETING ROOMS, THE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOMS IN THE GYM. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MEETING ROOM AND MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM IS JUST THE SIZE OF THAT ROOM, AND THE CAPACITY OF THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLEE CAN HOLD. SO WE WENT THROUGH. WE DO A BENCHMARK TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE FEES. SO THE TABLE SHOWS YOU WHAT OUR CURRENT RATE IS. FOR EACH OF THESE, WE'RE PROPOSING A $5 INCREASE. AND SO A MEETING ROOM WOULD GO FROM 60 TO 65. THE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM FROM 80 TO 85 AND THE GYM FROM 80 TO 85. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT WOULD GENERATE, WE'RE ESTIMATING $10,000 MORE IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE. WE DO THAT BENCHMARK. AND WITH ALL THREE OF THOSE FEES, WE ARE AT OR BELOW THE AVERAGE BENCHMARK ON THOSE FEES. THE SENIOR CENTER. SO THE GARLAND SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER WILL OPEN LATER THIS FALL. AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS HISTORICALLY, THEY HAVE PAID THEY DIDN'T PAY ANYTHING FOR THEIR MEMBERSHIPS, BUT WE HAVE INSTITUTED A SENIOR MEMBERSHIP ID AT THE RECREATION CENTERS. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS ALREADY IN PLACE AT THE RECREATION CENTER. SO IF YOU ARE A GARLAND SENIOR AND YOU GO OVER TO AUDUBON, YOU WOULD PAY $20 AND A NONRESIDENT WOULD PAY $80. AND SO WE'RE JUST PROPOSING THAT WE WOULD INSTITUTE THAT OVER AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND AT CARVER. AND WHAT I WANT YOU TO NOTE IS THAT IF YOU ARE A SENIOR WHO IS PART OF THE DALLAS COUNTY MEAL PROGRAM, WE WOULDN'T CHARGE YOU. SO THESE WOULD BE FEES FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN THE MEAL PROGRAM. AND WE HAVE A RESIDENT AND NONRESIDENT FEE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THOSE. AND WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION. I'LL GIVE YOU THAT DATA. IT WOULD IT WAS ASKED HOW MANY SENIORS ARE NONRESIDENTS. AND SO AT THE RECREATION CENTERS, WE WERE ABLE TO PULL THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. 32% OF THOSE MEMBERSHIPS ARE NONRESIDENTS AT THE REC CENTERS. AND THEN WE PULLED THE INFORMATION JUST FOR FIELDS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE SENIOR PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY AT. AND 29% OF THOSE ARE NONRESIDENTS. AND THEN WE DID THE AVERAGE BENCHMARK HERE. AND ON THIS. THE AVERAGE BENCHMARK IS $20. AND SO WE ARE RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT THE BENCHMARK IS. ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, PAM. FIRST OF ALL, 32% IS THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. AND I MEAN, EVEN [02:50:03] 29% AT FIELDS IS, IS WAY, WAY HIGHER THAN WHAT I WAS EXPECTING. SO THAT THAT'S PRETTY COOL. ON YOUR SLIDE NINE OF THE ONE THAT WE'RE ON. OH, NO, THAT'S NOT SLIDE NINE HAS THE, THE COMPARISONS. DO WE KNOW LIKE SIZE WISE, LIKE ARE WE ARE THE SIZE OF OUR ROOMS COMPARABLE TO THE SIZE OF THESE ROOMS THAT PLANO IS CHARGING AN ASTRONOMICAL AMOUNT FOR? SO WE ARE IN LINE WITH IT DEPENDING ON THE SIZES, BUT THEY ALL VARY DEPENDING ON DIFFERENT SIZES. WE WENT ON IS HOW MANY BIT PER ROOM, WHAT THE CAPACITY OF EACH ROOM WAS, AND THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT. PLANO DOES CHARGE QUITE A BIT BECAUSE THEY THEY GROUP THEIR ROOMS. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM, YOU COULD ALSO USE ROOM A AND ROOM B WITH IT AS WELL IF YOU WANTED TO. IF YOU DON'T, THEY STILL CHARGE YOU FOR IT. OKAY. AND ARE OUR ROOMS AT THE CENTERS? AND I KNOW IT'LL VARY FROM EACH CENTER, BUT WHAT IS OUR LIKE OUR VACANCY RATE FOR RENTING OUT ROOMS? SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GET YOU ACTUAL DETAIL. BUT JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, ON THE WEEKENDS WE ARE BOOKED. YES, IT'S IT'S MORE WEEKDAYS WHERE WE DON'T SEE MAYBE AS MANY RESERVATIONS, BUT SATURDAYS BOOKED ALL DAY SUNDAYS WE HAVE A LOT OF CHURCHES THAT UTILIZE OUR FACILITIES. THERE'S A LOT OF FRIDAY NIGHT RENTALS THAT HAVE STARTED, SO IT'S BOOKED. SO ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE TOY WITH THE IDEA OF ON THE THE ROOM RENTALS WOULD BE A RESIDENT VERSUS NONRESIDENT FEE STRUCTURE. IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO GET CRAZY, MAYBE DO A WEEKDAY LIKE REDUCED, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, GIVE SOMEBODY SOME INCENTIVE ON A WEEKDAY RENTAL. BUT Y'ALL ARE DOING AN AMAZING THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE WILL PRIDE THAT. WE HAVE THE AVERAGE BENCHMARK DATA. SO WE'LL PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE NONRESIDENT. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER, LOOK, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT FOR NONRESIDENTS AND OR NON GARLAND BASED BUSINESSES. SO NONPROFITS AND ALL OF THAT INCLUDED. WHAT IS YOUR RATE FOR NONPROFITS? IS IT LOWER NONPROFITS? AND THEN ON THE FEES. I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE ELIMINATING THAT SENIOR FEE IF THEY PARTICIPATE IN THE MEAL PROGRAM. THAT WAS REALLY MY CONCERN WAS FOR RESIDENTS, SENIORS WHO REALLY CAN'T AFFORD THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ACTUALLY A REQUIREMENT OF THE GRANT. SO WE CANNOT CHARGE. THEY ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ALL THE ACTIVITIES IN THE REC CENTERS AND FREE OF CHARGE. WE CAN'T CHARGE THEM. AND ON THE THE RIDES THAT WE GIVE SENIORS ARE THOSE. DO WE CHARGE FOR THOSE? ARE THOSE INCLUDED IN THE MEMBERSHIP? YEAH. THOSE ARE WE DON'T CHARGE FOR THOSE. AND THEN THEY THEY'RE ONLY FOR RESIDENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE MEMBERSHIP FEES. DOES THAT FEE INUDE ALL OF THE SENIOR CITIZEN CITIZENS, OR IS THAT FOR ONE, IF YOU BELONG TO A CARVER AND IS THAT FOR ALL OF THEM OR IS THAT JUST FOR ONE? IT'S FOR ALL OF THEM. SO IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD. SO I BUY ONE AT HOLBROOK OR WHATEVER. THEN I CAN GO ANY PLACE IN THE CITY THAT I WANT ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER THINGS LIKE THE LIBRARY OR ANY OF THE REC CENTERS AS WELL. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR, COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS, THE SENIOR CENTER PROPOSED RATE FEE. IT SAYS $20. IS THAT PER HOUR? PER DAY? PER MONTH. THAT IS A YEAR THAT THAT IS A ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP AND THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE AT THE REC CENTERS THERE. SO I WASN'T SURE. OH, YES. NO, NO SIR. THAT'S AN ANNUAL FEE. AN ANNUAL FEE. OKAY. I THINK THAT'LL BE LESS PUSHBACK BECAUSE IT'S AN ANNUAL FEE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WE TOOK ALL THE FEES TO EITHER PARK BOARD OR TO THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMISSION. I WILL TELL YOU THAT ON THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMISSION, THEY ALL THOUGHT THAT WAS FAIR AND RECOMMENDED AND APPROVED THOSE AND THEN PARK BOARD. SAME WITH INCREASING THOSE FEES. OKAY, GOOD. BOUNCE OFF THEM. GOOD CALL. IF THEY'RE GOOD WITH IT, THEN I CERTAINLY AM. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. [02:55:06] DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON THIRD STRIKE. THIS IS FAMILY FEUD. YOU ARE ALREADY MADE. MARGARET, ASK ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD FAIRLY FREQUENTLY I SENIORS INTO THE POOL. COULD WE MAYBE, POSSIBLY LOOK AT IF WE'RE DOING A $20 MEMBERSHIP THAT IF YOU WANTED POOL ACCESS, WE COULD DO $20 MORE. AND THAT GETS YOU INTO THE POOLS. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. WE HAVE WE INSTITUTED THE SEASON PASSES THIS PAST YEAR AT HOLFORD. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS, I THINK, THAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT LIKE AN ALL ACCESS PASS. AND SO IT'S ON OUR LIST OF TO DOS TO RESEARCH AND BE ABLE TO BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I PROMISE I'M DONE. DON'T MAKE PROMISES YOU CAN'T KEEP. THAT'S. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER TRENT? THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO I HAVE I THINK I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I THINK COUNCIL ALREADY ASKED. YOUR ANSWER. I WANT TO GO BACK TO PAGE THREE. THE PARK SECURITY. I THINK THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE PARK. I WOULD SUGGEST THIS ONE SAYS IS ONLY FOR THE YES BUDGET. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND I WOULD SUGGEST FOR BOTH BUDGETS BECAUSE. IS A LOT OF ACTIVITIES, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AT THE PARK. AND YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE SEX OFFENDERS EARLIER THAT THEY CAUGHT IT. AND SO IT'S MY FIRST COMMENT, WHICH IS SHOULD BE INCLUDED BOTH BUDGETS. MY SECOND QUESTION GO BACK TO THE SENIORS ON PAGE FIVE. DO WE HAVE ANY PROJECTIONS THAT PERCENT OF THESE RESIDENTS VERSUS NONRESIDENTS GOING TO BE FOR THE NEW SENIOR CENTER WHEN IT'S OPEN FOR THE NEW? NO, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE REOPENED AUDUBON OR HOLLABAUGH, WE DID EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE THAT WE'VE REOPENED, OUR ATTENDANCE NUMBERS HAVE GREATLY INCREASED. SO I IMAGINE IT WILL BE VERY POPULAR WITH BOTH RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING NEW. BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA TO BE ABLE TO ESTIMATE. THANK YOU. I WOULD SUGGEST THE REASON IN DOWNTOWN IS I, I WAS ONE OF THE JURIES THAT WE WANT TO INVITE WELCOME NONRESIDENTS. AND THIS IS PART OF THE THE SENIOR RESIDENT, IF IT'S JUST FOR OTHERS, I'M NOT WORRIED MUCH. BUT FOR SENIORS, WE TRY TO GET THE COST DOWN, MAYBE JUST IN A SMALL INVITATION. WHEN IT COMES TO OUR NEW SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER AND RIGHT DOWNTOWN, THEY MIGHT DO SOME SHOPPING, SOME ACTIVITIES. THERE IS ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR ECONOMY. SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST, IS THERE A WAY THAT IT POSSIBLE THAT MAYBE $80 REDUCE A LITTLE BIT THAT WE WANT TO WELCOME NONRESIDENTS? IF YOU HAVE A PROJECTION COMING IN AND SAY, WE HAVE MORE OUR LOCAL RESIDENT HERE MAYBE ALREADY FILLED UP, THEN A DIFFERENT STORY. YES. I MEAN, MAJORITY OF THE USERS ARE GOING TO BE RESIDENTS. WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT WE PULLED. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND VOTED ON IN ONE OF THESE AMENITIES, AND THAT THEY SHOULD BE FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR GARLAND CITIZENS. SO THE NONRESIDENT RATE, WE ALREADY HAVE A PRECEDENT AND DATA THAT NONRESIDENTS ARE WILLING TO PAY THAT $80 FOR THE YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THAT AT THE RECREATION CENTERS ALREADY. OKAY, GOOD. GOOD TO KNOW THAT THEY YOU ARE THAT STUDY. OKAY. AND THAT WEIGHS. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO BE MORE LIKE WELCOME IF WE HAVE CAPACITY AND WE, OF COURSE, WE ARE PRIORITIZED FOR OUR RESIDENTS FIRST. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE NONE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THAT WAS OUR LAST DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION. WE HAVE. MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION DELIBERATION ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2627 PROPOSED BUDGET PRESENTATION. THAT'S PART OF PARKS, PART OF PARKS. WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT THEN. IF THERE'S STILL A PARKS PRESENTATION, THEN PLEASE. YES. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL, MR. CITY MANAGER URIEL VILLALPANDO, MANAGING DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES. AND SO THIS IS A FOLLOW UP PRESENTATION TO THE [03:00:05] PRESENTATION GIVEN BY FORMER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER PHIL URRUTIA, BACK ON JUNE 6TH ON BRADFIELD. IF YOU RECALL, HE PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW ON THE FACILITY AND THE SWIMMING POOL. HE WENT OVER SOME METRICS ON ATTENDANCE AND REVENUE, AND HE ALSO LISTED A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT NEED IMMEDIATE REPAIRS. SO ABOUT 90% OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS MORNING IS INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY SEEN. THE OTHER 10% IS INFORMATION THAT CAME FROM SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FROM THAT MEETING AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. SO WE ARE WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS NEW INFORMATION WILL HELP COUNCIL IN IN MAKING A MORE INFORMED DECISION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH THIS FACILITY, WITH THIS ISSUE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO THE LEE SO BRADFIELD RECREATION CENTER, BUILT IN 1975, A LITTLE OVER 9200FT■S. AND IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE FEMA ONE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN, DIFFERENT ROOMS. IT IS A SMALLER FACILITY, VARIOUS OPERATING HOURS, SO THAT WE HAVE ANNUAL ATTENDANCE INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE FOR YOU AND UNIQUE USER INFORMATION. SO ANNUAL ATTENDANCE LAST YEAR AT BRADFIELD REC CENTER WAS 134,000, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. AND YEAR TO DATE, UP TO THE 22ND OF THIS MONTH WAS 129,000. SO ANNUAL ATTENDANCE REFLECTS THE TOTAL VISITS, NOT NECESSARILY UNIQUE USERS. SO I COULD BE COMING FOR A PROGRAM AND I COME, YOU KNOW, SEVEN TIMES IN A YEAR. I'M COUNTED IN THAT OVERALL IMPACT OF HOW MANY USERS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING THROUGH THE FACILITY. AND THEN WE BROKE DOWN UNIQUE USERS. AND SO I CANNOT PULL UNIQUE USER INFORMATION FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER. BUT I CAN FOR MEMBERSHIPS AND I CAN FOR PROGRAM REGISTRATIONS. SO UNIQUE USERS FOR BRADFIELD FOR THE MEMBERSHIPS. SO THAT'S THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO UTILIZE THE GYM YEAR TO DATE IS 349, AND PROGRAM REGISTRATIONS IS 442. AGAIN, A UNIQUE USER IS SOMEBODY THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THAT MEMBERSHIP AND THEY'RE NOT BEING COUNTED. TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT SETS OF DATA USED FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT REASONS. AND THE FACILITY AND THE SWIMMING POOL WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 2019 BOND PACKAGE. HOWEVER, IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT BRADFIELD HAD NEEDS. AND I WENT BACK AND I WAS REVIEWING SOME OF THE JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE BOND PROGRAM. AND AT THE TIME IT WAS BETTER THAN OTHERS. AND SO THERE WERE A LOT OF FACILITIES THAT NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS, NEEDED TO BE COMPLETELY RENOVATED OR TOTALLY TORN DOWN AND START OVER. SO BUT AT THE TIME, BRADFIELD AND WITH THE DECISIONS THAT THE BOND COMMITTEE MADE, IT JUST DIDN'T MEET THAT THRESHOLD WE DID IDENTIFY. SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN 2018, 19, $17.9 MILLION WORTH OF UNMET NEEDS OVER AT BRADFIELD BETWEEN THE TWO FACILITIES. BRADFIELD POOL ALSO OPENED IN 1975. IT'S GOT A SLIDE OVER THERE. IT'S A OPEN DAILY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. WE OFFER SWIM LESSONS. ANNUAL ATTENDANCE LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE OVER 22,000 AND YEAR TO DATE THIS YEAR IS 6900, A LITTLE OVER. BUT WE WERE ALSO CLOSED FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS DUE TO A REPAIR THAT HAD TO BE DONE AT BRADFIELD POOL. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE UNIQUE USER INFORMATION, THEIR SWIM REGISTRATIONS, UNIQUE USERS 430, I CAN'T GET YOU UNIQUE USER INFORMATIONN ON THE DAILY ADMISSIONS BECAUSE WE JUST USE A POINT OF SALE. AND SO WE'RE ON WHO THOSE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE ATTENDING THE FACILITY. THIS IS THE POOL UTILIZATION AS OF 722. SO WE LIST THE FACILITY, THE DAILY ADMISSIONS, THE PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS, AND THEN THE TOTAL ATTENDANCE. BUT THESE NUMBERS HERE ARE NOT ALSO NOT REFLECTING THE PEOPLE THAT COME FOR RENTALS AT THE FACILITIES. SO THIS IS JUST STRICTLY ON DAILY ADMISSIONS AND PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS. ANNUAL OPERATING COSTS AND REVENUE. THE RECREATION CENTER HAS A TOTAL OPERATING COST OF 276,000. MOST OF THAT YOU CAN SEE IS WITH STAFFING AND WITH AN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF ONLY A LITTLE OVER $5,000. THERE IS NO GENERAL FUND REVENUE THAT COMES IN FROM THE RECREATION CENTER. THE REVENUE THAT DOES COME IN GOES INTO THE RECREATION PERFORMANCE FUND. THE SWIMMING POOL HAS A OPERATING COST OF TOTAL OPERATING COST OF 365,000. BUT IT DOES TAKE IN GENERAL FUND REVUE. AND SO THE NET OPERATING COST OF THE FACILITY IS A LITTLE OVER 335,000. THE [03:05:03] COMBINED TOTAL UTILITY COSTS FOR THE TWO FACILITIES IS A LITTLE OVER 36,000. SO COMBINE ALL OF THAT AND TOTAL OPERATING COSTS FOR BOTH OF THOSE FACILITIES IS A LITTLE OVER 648,000. OKAY, SO I'LL GO THROUGH IMMEDIATE POOL NEEDS AND YOUR POOL CAN DO THE FACILITY. SO IMMEDIATE POOL NEEDS WE'VE IDENTIFIED AROUND, IT'S ROUNDED $767,000 WORTH OF REPAIRS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. THESE ARE OLD FACILITIES. IT'S NOW 51 YEARS OLD NOW, AND SO IT IS TIME FOR A LOT OF THESE THINGS TO START, EITHER NEEDING TO BE REPLACED OR RENOVATED. TOTALLY NEW. IT'S SO IT'S LIVED ITS LIFESPAN AND SO IMMEDIATE NEEDS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT REPLASTERING THE POOL DRAIN REPLACEMENTS, UV SYSTEM, CHEMICAL REPLACEMENTS. AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT NUMBER THERE. BUT IT'S NOT THAT WE'VE NEGLECTED THE FACILITY. BUT IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE LAST JUST FIVE YEARS OF DATA ON OUR EXPENSES, IT'S OVER $400,000 THAT WE'VE SPENT ON MAKING SURE THAT THE FACILITY IS ABLE TO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC EACH SUMMER. SO THAT. YEAH. AND AS IT PERTAINS TO THE FACILITY ITSELF, WE WE ARE PROJECTING APPROXIMATELY $800,000 TO REPLACE THE FLOOR AND ALSO TO REMOVE THE FOUNDATION. THIS INCLUDES REMOVING THE CURRENT FLOOR, REMOVING THE SLAB FOR THE FOUNDATION, INSTALLING 46 PIERS AND THEN NEW FLOOR, NEW SLAB PAINTING AND REPAIRING THE WALLS AS WELL. WE ALSO NEED TO REPAIR THE ROOF. THIS INCLUDES A ROOF OVERLAY TO SEAL THE ROOF PENETRATIONS, AND THAT'S ABOUT $255,000. WE NEED TO REPLACE FOUR HVAC UNITS ON THE FLOOR, AND THIS INCLUDES ALSO REBALANCING THE AIRFLOW SO THAT THE TEMPERATURE IS THE SAME IN ALL THE ROOMS. THAT'S WE'RE PROJECTING APPROXIMATELY $276,000 FOR THAT. AND WE ALSO NEED TO REPLACE THE ELECTRICAL DISTRIBUTION EQUIPMENT. THAT'S ABOUT $144,000. SO WE'RE ESTIMATING APPROXIMATELY $1,475,400 FOR THE FACILITY. ALL COMBINED THE FACILITY AND THE POOL. WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY $2.2 MILLION IN REPAIRS. SO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION, BRADFIELD POOAND RECREATION CENTER ARE NOT PART OF THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET. AND SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS WE WOULD DEMOLISH THE RECREATION CENTER AND POOL. THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER 381,000. FULL TIME STAFF THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO BRADFIELD WOULD BE REALLOCATED TO OTHER RECREATION CENTERS. WHERE WE DO HAVE NEEDS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, AT FIELDS RECREATION CENTER, WE ONLY HAVE ONE SPECIALIST. OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO HAVE TWO RECREATION SPECIALISTS. AND SO THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT SERVICE ATTENDANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUT. AT HOLFORD AND AT THE GARLAND SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER. BOTH HOLFORD IS EXTREMELY BUSY AND SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER, WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE VERY BUSY. SO IT CAN HELP SUPPLEMENT THAT. AND THEN THE PART TIME RECREATION ASSOCIATE WOULD ALSO GO OVER TO FIELDS RECREATION CENTER. SO THE OPERATING CTS, SALARY SAVINGS, THE LOSS OF REVENUE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE POOL SHOWS A NET ANNUAL SAVINGS OF 380,000. THAT ANNUAL SAVINGS IS PROPOSED TO BE REALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET TO ADDRESS THE WAGE ADJUSTMENTS FOR HIGH TURNOVER, HIGH VACANCY POSITIONS THAT WE NEED FOR OUR CORE SERVICES. AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE HERE, COUNCILMEMBER LUCK. WHAT AS FAR AS YOUR UNIQUE USERS GO, WILL YOU COMPARE THE RECREATION CENTER UNIQUE USERS TO OTHER RECREATION CENTERS LIKE GRANGER? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN. SO WITH OUR REGISTRATIONS, LET ME GO TO THAT SLIDE. YES. OKAY. SO ON THE RECREATION CENTER, YOU'LL SEE THAT ON PROGRAM REGISTRATIONS. IT'S 442. AND THAT IS THE AVERAGE OF THE FACILITIES. AND I DID NOT COUNT FIELDS IN THIS BECAUSE FIELDS IS HOUSING THE SENIOR PROGRAM. AND SO THEY DON'T GET TO DO A LOT OF THEIR OWN PROGRAMING. BUT THAT'S ABOUT IN THE AVERAGE. IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. THE AVERAGE IS CLOSER TO 460 IS WHAT IT IS. HOWEVER, ON THE MEMBERSHIPS. SO WHEN YOU SEE HERE 349, THE AVERAGE MEMBERSHIP AT THE REC CENTERS IS 2430 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS WITH HOLFORD, WHICH THAT'S NOT A [03:10:06] SURPRISE BEING THE HIGHEST AT 6258. OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S QUITE A BIG DIFFERENCE. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON GRANGER SINCE THAT'S THE CLOSEST RECREATION CENTER? YES. ON GRANGER, THEY'RE UNIQUE USERS FOR THE PROGRAM. REGISTRATION IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LOWER AT 384. AND THEN ON THEIR MEMBERSHIPS, IT'S CLOSE TO 2000 1954. OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT POOL UNIQUE USERS? WHAT ARE WHAT ARE OUR NUMBERS FOR HOLFORD AND SURF AND SWIM. OKAY, SO AGAIN ON UNIQUE USERS, I CANNOT PULL THE DAILY ADMISSIONS. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO BE FOR SWIM LESSONS. AND THEN HOLFORD ALSO HAS A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS. THEY HAVE AN ADULT SWIM. BUT LET'S SEE. S SO YOU SEE THE BRADFIELD IS AT 430 AND THEN HOLFORD'S AT 660. SURF AND SWIM AGAIN BECAUSE THEY DON'T OFFER AS MANY SWIM LESSONS. THEY'RE AT 206. OKAY. WHEN TALKING ABOUT DEMOLITION, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN UTILIZE PORTIONS OF THE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES FOR PUBLIC USE, LIKE SHADE OR LIKE A GATHERING PLACE OF SOME KIND? THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINED BY STAFF ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT JUST LIKE A PAVILION OF SOME KIND. I MEAN, THE, EVEN THE SHADE STRUCTURE ON THE ENTRANCE IN THE ENTRANCE AREA, I MEAN, PEOPLE COULD SIT UNDER THAT ON A PICNIC AND A PICNIC TABLE OR SOMETHING. YEAH. JUST REAL QUICK. SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION. I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THAT BUILDING IS, PARTICULARLY WITH THE GYM, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING THAT WOULD COME TO MY MIND. THOSE ARE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS THAT RELY ON EACH OTHER. SO WHEN YOU PULL THE WALLS DOWN, THEY'RE BUILT IN SUCH A WAY. THEY SIT ON THE SLAB AND THEY ARE CROSS-BRACED AND ARE PART OF THE INTEGRAL PART OF THE CEILING. SO IF YOU PULL THAT DOWN, THERE'S NO STRUCTURAL COMPONENT TO HOLD. AND SO I WOULD THINK THE SAME THING IS GOING TO BE THE ISSUE WHEN YOU START PULLING WALLS DOWN ON ON BRADFIELD REC CENTER OUTSIDE THE GYM, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS. IF WE LEFT TOO MANY ENCLOSED WALLS AND WE'VE GOT A OVERNIGHT RESIDENT CHALLENGE. SO I THINK THE GOAL WAS TO PUT IT BACK INTO A GREEN SPACE THAT'S IRRIGATED. IT'S GRASS NOW. IT BECOMES A PLACE YOU CAN PLAY, YOU KNOW, SOCCER, FOOTBALL, THROW A FRISBEE AND JUST MAKE IT A GENERAL PART OF THE OVERALL PARK. I GET IT, I JUST CONSIDER THAT THAT ENTRANCE STRUCTURE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS ON PAGE TWO. SLIDE TWO. THAT THING RIGHT THERE THAT'S NOT CONNECTED TO THE BUILDING AT ALL. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT PROVIDES A DECENT AMOUNT OF SHADE. SO I MEAN, YOU COULD STICK A PICNIC BENCH UNDER THAT AND LET PEOPLE USE IT FOR WHENEVER, WHATEVER. IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. I, WE, WE LIKE TEARING THINGS DOWN AND BUILDING NEW BUILDING THIS FACILITY, NEW THROUGH A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE QUITE EXPENSIVE. SO JUST TRY TO KEEP THAT PART IF YOU CAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE. ALLISON. GREAT PRESENTATION. IT'S OBVIOUS AT THIS POINT. WOULD YOU GO TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS ALL OF THE. YES. ALL THE NEGATIVE REASONS THAT THIS FACILITY SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED. AND YET WE HAVE SOME CONSTITUENTS WHO REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ATTEMPT TO RETAIN AND RESTRUCTURE. THEY SEEM TO FEEL THAT WE FIND MONEY FOR ANY AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO FIND MONEY FOR. SO WHY NOT THIS? SO FOR THAT COUNCIL PERSON THAT MAY HAVE TO JUST SAY THAT, NO, IT'S TIME FOR THIS FACILITY TO BE DEMOLISHED. HOW WOULD WE MESSAGE YOU? ASK US TO TELL YOU. HOW WOULD WE MESSAGE THAT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S PALATABLE? I'LL TAKE THAT ONE. YOU WANT TO, MR. MOORE, THAT IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION THAT I MOST LIKELY EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS GOING TO GET. FUNDING IS VERY LIMITED. THIS IS UNPLANNED. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONSIDER IS THAT THIS IS JUST TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY REAL IMPROVEMENTS OUT OF THIS FACILITY. NOTHING GUARANTEES THAT IN THREE YEARS, FIVE YEARS, SOMETHING ELSE IS NOT GOING TO BREAK. THINK OF A YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BEST ANALOGIES THAT I CAN PRESENT IS THINK OF A 1969 MUSTANG. WE ALL LOVE THOSE CARS, RIGHT? YOU GET IT REBUILT AND YOU THINK, OKAY, I GOT A BRAND NEW CAR. NO, YOU HAVE A CAR FOR CAR SHOWS. THAT'S NOT A DAILY DRIVER. IT'S THE SAME PRINCIPLE WITH WITH THIS THAT WE'RE JUST [03:15:03] BASICALLY PUTTING A BAND AID. ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT I'M GOING TO USE THE FOUNDATION AS AN EXAMPLE. ONCE WE GET IN THERE, WE'RE ANTICIPATING $800,000. IT COULD BE MORE, IF YOU RECALL, FIVE YEARS AGO OR SO, THE SENIOR CENTER, WE WE INTENDED TO DO RENOVATIONS. WE SPENT, I DON'T KNOW, 2 OR $300,000 JUST TO FIND OUT. WE WE NEEDED TO DEMOLISH THAT FACILITY. SO BASED ON ALL THE AVAILABLE, THAT'S WHY WE FEEL IT'S IS THE BEST USE OF THE CITY'S MONEY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH DEMOLISHING, CLOSING THIS FACILITY. BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS UP TO COUNCIL. SO REALLY, IT WOULD REALLY NOT BE IN A COUNCIL PERSON'S INTEREST TO ATTEMPT TO SAVE THIS FACILITY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTERESTS TO GO ALONG WITH THE PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH IT. IF NOTHING ELSE, AS I HAVE LISTENED TO OUR CONVERSATIONS TODAY, I HAVEN'T HEARD US TALK ABOUT DELETING VERY MANY THINGS AT ALL. I JUST FEEL THAT WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT A BUDGET, THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DETRACT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM IT. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AT THIS POINT, FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING US THIS MORNING, WHO TRULY FEEL THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN THIS FACILITY, I WOULD HAVE TO CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN CARRAWAY THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S JUST NOT IT'S JUST NOT IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO CONTINUE TO FUND IT. SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. MR. MOORE, IF I WOULD ALSO ADD, IN ADDITION TO WHAT Y'ALL SAID, I THINK I THINK A SHORTHAND WAY OF SAYING THIS IS IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION. THE BOND STUDY COMMITTEE DID NOT SELECT THIS PARK TO BE REPLACED. THIS IS A FACILITY THAT I THINK IS FAIR TO SAY, IS CLOSE TO THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE. THIS FACILITY WAS NOT DESIGNED ORIGINALLY TO LAST 100 YEARS, 150 YEARS. IT'S AN OLD FACILITY. AND THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS, DO WE PUT $2.2 MILLION INTO ESSENTIALLY PUTTING A BANDAID ON A FACILITY THAT IS ESSENTIALLY AT ITS END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE? IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE ONGOING ANNUAL COSTS, AS WE SPEND THEM HERE, ONLY INCREASES THE RISK AS OUR BUDGETS GET TIGHTER IN THE YEARS AHEAD, THAT WE WILL MORE QUICKLY HAVE TO CLOSE A FACILITY THAT WE HAVE JUST SPENT MONEY TO REBUILD BECAUSE WE ARE FACING EVER INCREASING BUDGETS EVERY YEAR. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS DESIGNED TO FIX, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A MULTI YEAR PROCESS. AND THE RISK THAT WE HAVE OF SPENDING MONEY IS JUST ONE THAT THE RISK IS THAT THERE COULD COME A POINT WHERE WE WILL NEED TO REDUCE THE HOURS OR REDUCE THE ABILITY TO KEEP OPEN A FACILITY THAT WE JUST SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THE VOTERS HAVE ASKED US TO KEEP OPEN. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO REASONS THAT I SUGGESTED ORIGINALLY. SHOULD WE COIDER THE CONTINUED FUNDING OF A FACILITY THAT NEEDS $2.2 MILLION IN REPAIRS THIS CITY? I THINK THAT THAT MESSAGE WILL INDEED GO ACROSS. I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO RIGHT NOW WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CONTINUE TO BE OPEN. I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THEIR MIND. BUT THE REAL KEY HERE IS BEING IN THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN. WE DO HAVE TO INDEED MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER SCOVILLE. HI THERE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WANT TO SAY I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN LOCKE AND MORE INDICATED. I MEAN, IN THE END, WE MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS. WE MAKE IT FOR THE THE MOST BENEFIT THAT WE FEEL IS GOING TO BE IMPROVING OUR CITY IN THE FUTURE. AND WE CAN'T EXPLAIN IT ANY BETTER THAN OUR CITY MANAGER. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANTED TO ASK SOMETHING REALLY QUICK. I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN LOOK, PUT ON THIS, BUT THE MEMBERSHIP AT GRANT, WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE? GRANGER? IS THAT WHAT PERCENTAGE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT IS COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE AT NOW? IS THAT LIKE, BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WAS AT A THOUSAND, WE HAVE A THOUSAND UNIQUE MEMBERSHIP ON THE MEMBERSHIPS. GRANGER. SO ON THE MEMBERSHIP. SO GOING IN AND UTILIZING THE GAME ROOM OR THE BASKETBALL GYM, THERE ARE 1954 UNIQUE USERS AT GRANGER. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? 1000 1954 COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW AT 349 AT BRADFIELD? OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAD THAT RIGHT. AND THEN REALLY QUICK ON SLIDE FOUR. THERE WE GO WITH THE SURF AND SWIM. IS THAT JUST THIS YEAR [03:20:01] WHEN IT OPENED UP? THAT'S CORRECT. YES. AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THEIR RENTALS THAT THEY'VE HAD ALL THE FACILITIES HAVE HAD AFTER OUR RENTALS. SO THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THESE NUMBERS. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, GARLAND, BECAUSE THAT IS AMAZING. SURF AND SWIM. THAT'S I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. SO THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. ALL THE DATA ON HERE. IT HELPS US A LOT WITH THE CLARIFYING THE PROBLEM AND THE NEED. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'D ASK FOR. AND Y'ALL REALLY CAME THROUGH AND SHOWING WHAT THE STAFFING COSTS AND THE REPAIR COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ON HERE IS THE, THE POOL UTILIZATION. YOU HAVE PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS FOR BRADFIELD 545. THAT'S MOSTLY SWIM LESSONS, CORRECT? YES. AT BRADFIELD AND SURF AND SWIM. THOSE ARE THE SWIM PROGRAM. BRADFIELD HAS MORNING AND EVENING SWIM LESSONS. HOLFORD IS SWIM LESSONS. PLUS THEY HAVE ADULT SWIM, AND THEN THEY'VE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER LIKE SPECIAL EVENT TYPE THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS NUMBER. OKAY. THERE'S A TR PROGRAM, A THERAPEUTIC RECREATION PROGRAM, AND ANOTHER. WILL THERE BE DIFFICULTY IN ABSORBING THOSE PROGRAMS THAT BRADFIELD IS DOING RIGHT NOW? AND THE OTHER TWO POOLS? WE WOULD HAVE TO ADJUST OUR DAILY OPERATIONAL HOURS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE T THE TRANSFER OF THE MORNING AND EVENING CLASSES, BECAUSE WE STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EVENING CLASSES, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK AND THEY NEED THE EVENING HOURS FOR THEIR SWIM LESSONS. SO THERE IS A PATH FORWARD FOR THAT. YES, WE ALREADY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT IN IN PLANNING. IF THIS DID CLOSE, I'M TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH THAT. AND WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO. YOU KNOW, THE POOL. I THINK THERE'S A CLEAR CASE FOR THE POOL CLOSING. AND THERE'S ALSO FOR THE RECREATION CENTER, THE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO IT. IT ALMOST CALLS FOR US TO HAVE ANOTHER BOND ELECTION AND, AND CONSIDER REPLACING THE ENTIRE FACILITY. BUT WAS THERE HAS THERE BEEN THOUGHT INTO CLOSING THE POOL? AND, AND, AND FILLING THAT IN AND THEN JUST MOTHBALLING THE RECREATION CENTER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME? WE MOTHBALLED LOU HOUGH FOR 23 YEARS, I THINK IT WAS. AND JUST SETTING IT ASIDE AS A PLACEHOLDER UNTIL WE ACTUALLY PUT IN PANEL A BOND COMMITTEE AND THEN HAVE THEM CONSIDER THE COMPLETE REWORKING OF THE FACILITY AND OR THE REPLACEMENT OF IT. SIR, THE ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO SPEND ABOUT $1.5 MILLION JUST TO KEEP THAT OPEN. EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE ON THAT SLIDE IS CRITICAL REPAIRS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. MOTHBALLING IS IN CLOSING IT, BUT NOT NOT OPERATING IT ANY LONGER, JUST HAVING IT LIKE, I MEAN, WE DIDN'T PUT FOUNDATION WORK INTO LOU HOUGH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT UNTIL WE FINALLY DEMOLISHED IT. YES. SO I CAN SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE. ON DEALING WITH LOU HOUGH IN MOTHBALLS. IT IS A MAGNET FOR UNWANTED ACTIVITY, AND IT CONTINUES TO IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE REQUIRE SOME RESOURCES. THE GOOD NEWS IS, WHAT I WOULD ENVISION FOR THE FUTURE IS HOW WE DETERMINE WHAT THE WHAT THAT SPACE SHOULD BE. WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY ENGAGE THE THE PUBLIC LIKE WE WOULD ON ANYTHING, POSSIBLY ENGAGE CONSULTANTS AND REALLY DIG INTO WHAT IS THE NEED THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH SAFER AND MUCH MORE USEFUL TO, TO MAKE THAT AN IRRIGATED, NICE GRASS SPACE. IT COULD BE USED. BUT I DO THINK BY MOTHBALLING AND LEAVING IT THERE, IT WOULD CONTINUE TO DRAIN RESOURCES AND BE AN UNSAFE FEATURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WILSON. SO PLEASE STEP UP TO THE MIC. YEAH. THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER TOO, AS THE DEMOLITION COSTS ARE GOING TO GET MORE. SO THE LONGER IT SITS THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S 300 000 THIS YEAR IT'S 400 000 THE YEAR AFTER. THE LONGER YOU WAIT, THAT'S JUST GOING TO GET TO BE A BIGGER AND BIGGER NUMBER. SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER ALONG WITH THE SAFETY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. YOU'RE NOT LAST. OKAY. SO I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. I'LL TRY TO JUST DO THIS ONE. CAN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE LIFEGUARD SHORTAGE? I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE NECESSARILY HAD IT SO MUCH THIS YEAR, BUT LAST YEAR KIND OF WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW MANY DAYS DID WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR FACILITIES CLOSED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE LIFEGUARDS? SO I [03:25:03] THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO, I'D HAVE TO FACT CHECK MYSELF. IT WASN'T LAST YEAR, BUT I THINK IT WAS TWO SEASONS AGO WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH THE LIFEGUARD SHORTAGE AND WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP NOT OPENING BRADFIELD THAT SEASON SO THAT WE COULD MEET THE NEEDS AT THE OTHER FACILITIES. SO BUT I CAN GET THE DETAILS AND PROVIDE IT. I THINK THERE WAS THERE ARE A FEW DAYS LAST YEAR THAT WE STRUGGLED TO HAVE ENOUGH LIFEGUARDS, AND WOLFORD HAD TO BE CLOSED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T. I MEAN, BOTH FACILITIES ENDED UP HAVING TO CLOSE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH LIFEGUARDS. SO I HAVING OR BY CLOSING BRADFIELD, THAT WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT STRUGGLE. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SAM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST HOW HARD IT IS TO GET LIFEGUARDS. KIDS DON'T WANT TO BE LIFEGUARDS ANYMORE, ODDLY ENOUGH. AND SO IT DEFINITELY WOULD AT LEAST HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE THEN THOSE SAME LIFEGUARDS CAN GO TO WHOLE TO WHOLE FRUIT OR SURF. AND THEN DO WE KNOW WHAT THE USAGE LOOKS LIKE OF THE REC CENTER BY THE KIDS AFTER SCHOOL? LIKE THE SELLERS IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET? THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE KIDS USING BRADFIELD AFTER SCHOOL TO STAY OUT OF TROUBLE. SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD HAVE TO AND WE CAN PULL THIS REPORT. WE'LL HAVE TO GET IT TO BUDGET. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL BY THE NUMBER OF SCANS WE HAVE. AND WE CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THIS HOUR AND THIS TIME FRAME, WE HAD THIS MANY SCANS BECAUSE THOSE WOULD BE THE KIDS UTILIZING THE GAME ROOM OR THE BASKETBALL GYM. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT. I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS. I, I THINK A LOT OF KIDS FROM SELLERS UTILIZE BRADFIELD, BUT NOT THE REC CENTER. THEY UTILIZE THE, THE BASEBALL AREA. AND IT'S, THEY'RE NOT PLAYING BASEBALL, BUT. WELL, WE KEEP THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND THE TENNIS COURTS. IF WE DO AWAY WITH THE REST OF IT. YES. AND THE TENNIS COURTS ARE SET TO BE REDONE. SO. AND THEN THE CURRENT CLASSES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED AT BRADFIELD, HAVE WE HAD DISCUSSIONS WH THOSE INSTRUCTORS TO SEE, ARE WE GOING TO LOSE INSTRUCTORS IF THEY HAVE TO SWITCH CENTERS, OR ARE THEY WILLING? THE PAST, HOWEVER MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN SINCE WE'VE BEEN DOING THE BOND PROGRAM AND CLOSING CENTERS AND OPENING CENTERS, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT PROCESS, WORKING WITH INSTRUCTORS, GETTING THEM AT NEW FACILITIES, AND THAT NEVER SEEMS TO REALLY BE A PROBLEM WITH THE INSTRUCTORS. THEY'RE OKAY TO MOVE. THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR CLASSES. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A BARRIER. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE WOMAN A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN SHE WAS THINKING ABOUT THE KIDS UTILIZING THE REC CENTER, THAT REALLY SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE KIDS THAT GO TO THE KARATE CLASSES, BECAUSE KARATE IS ONLY OFFERED AT BRADFIELD. AND, AND SO I WAS LIKE, YEAH, THOSE, THOSE KIDS, THEY'RE PAYING FOR A CLASS THAT THEIR PARENTS ARE STILL GOING TO PAY FOR IT. ANOTHER CENTER. AND THEY HAVE, THEY'RE NOT COMING FROM THE APARTMENTS NEXT DOOR TO GO TO KARATE CLASS. AND SO I, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE KIND OF THAT, HOW THAT TIES TOGETHER WITH THE KIDS USING THE REC CENTER AFTER CLASS OR AFTER SCHOOL. AND THEN. IS FOR FUTURE FUTURE DOWN THE ROAD. THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD BILL QUESTION. COULD WE POTENTIALLY LOOK AT DOWN THE ROAD, CONVERTING THE POOL AREA TO A SPLASH PAD, OR DO YOU STILL JUST LEVEL IT? I THINK LIKE TO ECHO WHAT ANDY HAD SAID, IS THAT THAT WOULD BE A PROCESS THAT WE WOULD GO AND DO PUBLIC INPUT ON WHAT ARE THE NEEDS, FIGURE OUT THAT DATA TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OF WHAT THE NEW AMENITY WOULD BE AND WHAT. SURE. I WAS, I WAS CURIOUS, LIKE IF THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO DEMO IT, LIKE DO, COULD YOU SAVE PART OF SOMETHING OVER THERE? IF WE CHOSE TO CONVERT IT OR, I DON'T KNOW, SPLASH PAD COST MONEY THOUGH. THERE'S CHEMICALS AND THERE'S THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO UPKEEP. SO THERE ARE MAINTENANCE DOLLARS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FIGURED OUT FOR THAT. OH YEAH. I MEAN IT WOULD BE VERY FUTURE IN A BOND PACKAGE AND ALL OF THAT FUN STUFF. I ALSO WOULD ADD THAT GIVEN ITS AGE AND GIVEN THE AGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, I THINK [03:30:04] THAT EVEN IF WE DO PLAN FOR FUTURE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH OF THAT THAT WOULD SALVAGEABLE SENSE TO BE SALVAGED BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE THE FACILITY IS QUITE OLD AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE POOL IS QUITE OLD. AND I THINK THAT IF WE WERE TO BUILD A WATER FEATURE THERE OF SOME KIND OF FUTURE OR ANYTHING ELSE THERE IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE BETTER OFF STARTING FROM NEW. SO WE WEREN'T PUTTING BAND-AIDS ON THINGS RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. PERFECT. KIND OF WHAT I ASSUMED, BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK. AND THEN LAST QUESTION DO WE CURRENTLY RENT OUT THE BASEBALL FIELDS OUT THERE, OR IS IT JUST A FREE PUBLIC USE TYPE OF SITUATION? BRADFIELD HAS A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH GARNER LITTLE LEAGUE THAT UTILIZES THOSE FIELDS, AND THEN THE BUDDY LEAGUE IS OUT AT THAT FIELD, SO THOSE WOULD STAY IN PLACE. OKAY, AWESOME. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER LUCK. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I RECEIVED ABOUT CLING THE POOL WAS, WHY DIDN'T WE MAINTAIN THE FACILITY BEFORE IT GOT TO THIS POINT? AND YOU ANSWERED PART OF THAT BECAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT OVER $400,000 IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE FACILITY. BUT THIS ALSO GOES BACK TO THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM. I WAS ON THE PARKS BOARD, AND ONE OF THE ONE OF OUR TASKS WAS TO CHOOSE FACILITIES THAT WOULD GO INTO THE BOND PROGRAM. WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. SO AT THE TIME, THE PARK SYSTEM, EVERYTHING BASICALLY THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT NEEDED SOME SORT OF REPAIR, RENOVATION OR JUST COMPLETE REDO. WE HAD, I THINK IT WAS OVER $900 MILLION THAT WE BROROUGHT FORRD TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. AND, AND THEN AS THAT PROCESS WENT FORWARD AND THE DISCUSSIONS WENT ON, WE HAD TO TAKE THAT AND DO PRIORITY. SO WE BROUGHT IT TO THE PARK BOARD AND SAID, OKAY, WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES? AND PARK BOARD DID IDENTIFY BRADFIELD AS A NUMBER ONE. BUT AT THE TIME, WHEN YOU THINK OF THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT WERE THERE, THE OLD HOLFORD POOL, SURF AND SWIM, WHICH WAS FAILING THE RECREATION CENTER, THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER NEEDS. SO BRADFIELD WAS THE BEST OF THE WORST AT THE TIME, AND SO IT JUST DID NOT MAKE THAT THRESHOLD. BUT IT WAS ALWAYS IDENTIFIED AS A NEED, ALWAYS. IT JUST THERE WAS ONLY SO MANY DOLLARS TO GO AROUND. SO WE HAD OTHER FACILITIES THAT HAD MUCH MORE NEED. YES. AT THAT TIME, QUITE HONESTLY, THEY WERE IN WORSE SHAPE. YES. BRADFIELD IS LIKE A SEA. THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT MADE IT INTO THE BOND PROGRAM WERE LIKE D'S AND F'S. YES, BECAUSE WE PUT A CONDITION ASSESSMENT, WE GAVE THEM A GRADE. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GOING INTO THAT BECAUSE IT'S THIS FACILITY HASN'T BEEN IGNORED. IT HASN'T BEEN JUST LEFT TO FLAIL OUT IN THE WIND BY ITSELF. IT'S IT'S GOTTEN ATTENTION AND IT'S JUST, IT'S REACHED THE END OF ITS LIFE CYCLE. AND, AND IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF MONEY TO BRING IT BACK TO WHAT WE EXPECT FROM OUR FACILITIES NOW. BECAUSE IF YOU WANT SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO SURF AND SWIM OR HOLFORD. HOLFORD, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. NOW, I JUST THINK THIS PAST SEASON IS FOR THE POOL. WE WERE CLOSED 29 DAYS OR 30. I'D HAVE TO GET YOU THOSE NUMBERS. AND IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A REPAIR THAT CAME UP. SO WE ADDRESSED IT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE IT OPEN FOR THE SEASON. BUT THOSE ARE GOING TO JUST CONTINUE, WHETHER IT'S THE RECREATION CENTER OR THE POOL. RIGHT. AND THOSE REPAIRS ARE BEING MADE TO TO INSTRUMENTATION THAT'S 50 YEARS OLD. SO IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE YOU CAN GET SOME OF THOSE PARTS FOR NEWER EQUIPMENT EASILY, BUT IT TOOK WEEKS TO GET THAT PART BECAUSE WE HAD TO FIND SOMETHING THAT COULD FIT WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT'S 50 YEARS OLD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO CLOSE PARK FACILITIES. AT LEAST I DON'T. AND IT, IT COMES AT A, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO DO STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. BEFORE WE GO ON, MORE QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR, I JUST WANT TO FILL IN. THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM HAS BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES, AND I HAVE MY SPREADSHEET UP FROM THAT. AS I YOU KNOW, I WAS CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE. THE BRADFIELD POOL WAS A PROJECT. THERE WAS AN OPTION FOR $1.5 MILLION TO UPGRADE THE UPDATE, THE FILTRATION SYSTEM, THE PLAY FEATURE, THE SLIDE TOWERS, THE RESTROOMS PAINT THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND NEW LOCKERS. THERE WAS AN ALTERNATE POOL PROJECT THAT WAS FOR $32 MILLION, AND THAT INCLUDED COMPLETE RENOVATION OF ALL THE FACILITIES AT THAT TIME, WHICH ALSO INCLUDED WIND POOL, WHICH WAS A BIG PACKAGE TO DO THEM ALL. AS FAR AS THE RECREATION CENTER GOES, THERE IS A $3 [03:35:01] MILLION PROPOSAL TO REPAIR THE FOUNDATION, REPLACE THE GYM FLOOR, REPLACE THE TILE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CENTER, AND ADD A SECOND GYMNASIUM TO THAT AND UPDATE THE LANDSCAPING AND INCLUDED ADDITIONAL PARKING. SO THAT WAS $3 MILLION IN 2018 MONEY, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WENT A LOT FURTHER THEN, BUT THAT THOSE WERE PROJECTS AS PART OF $1.5 BILLION WORTH THAT LESS THAN A THIRD OF THOSE PROJECTS FROM THAT WHOLE THING WENT INTO THE FINAL BOND PROPOSAL, WHICH WAS PASSED, SO THAT THOSE TWO DO NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE PUT FORWARD AS A RECOMMENDATION TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT PROPOSAL. SO JUST A LITTLE HISTORY ON THAT. COUNCILMEMBER TRAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. CAN I GO BACK TO PAGE ONE THAT THE ATTENDANCE ON 2024 TO 2025 AT BRADFIELD IS 134,000 PEOPLE? YES. AND THAT'S TOTAL ATTENDANCE. SO THAT'S PEOPLE THAT MAY BE COMING FOR PROGRAMS OVER AND OVER. MAYBE THEY'RE COMING FOR A RENTAL, A SPECIAL EVENT. SO YES. THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR UP FRONT. I TEXTED CITY FINANCIAL CONDITION IS SERIOUSLY RIGHT. WE HAVE SB TWO CAP OF 3.5% THAT WE CAN COLLECT THE REVENUE. AND WE HAVE 7% OF COST. THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE. AND WE SORT OF HAVE $5 MILLION A YEAR INCREMENTALLY. AND THAT'S MY COFFEE EVENTS. AND SO AT CITY HALL HERE, I HAVE IN DISTRICT ONE, OUR RESIDENTS, WE DON'T HAVE A POOL OR LIBRARY. SO MOST OF THE TIME ON THE SOUTH OF MY DISTRICT, ONE JOINS THE BRADFIELD. SO THEY SHARE WITH ME THAT THEY A LOT OF MEMORIES AND THAT'S A NEED FOR THEM. SO I HAVE ABOUT 6 TO 8 RESIDENT ON DISTRICT TWO AND ASKED ME IS THE WAY THAT WE CAN KEEP THIS. SO I WANT TO BRING THIS ONE UP. I KNOW THAT 2.2 MILLION THAT WE JUST WANT TO KEEP THE LINE ON 2.2 MILLION THAT NEEDED TO REPAIR, AND THEN YOU NEED ABOUT 650,000 FOR OPERATION A YEAR. AND THAT REPAIRS, JUST MAYBE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, MAYBE JUST A FEW YEARS, 3 OR 4 YEARS. SO AND CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, RIGHT? SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE. DO WE, IF WE IF WE CLOSED IT, DO WE HAVE A TRANSITION PLAN FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS AND THEN GO TO THE MENTIONED ABOUT SWIMMING POOL OR THE OFFERS? AND ALSO WE HAVE A CAPACITY. DO WE HAVE KIND OF OVERALL THE TRANSITION PLAN THAT WILL HELP THE RESIDENTS, BOTH AT TH DISTRICT ONE? DISTRICT TWO. WHERE DO YOU GO? THAT'S THAT'S MY FIRST. AND SECOND PART IS THAT IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING AND WE PUT A FENCE AROUND THIS AND WE PUT A PAUSE ON THAT AND HOPE FOR THE FUTURE BOND THAT THERE MAY BE, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S ONE OR NOT. BUT IF THERE IS A FUTURE BOND, I THINK THE RESIDENTS WILL SAY THAT'S A GREAT LOCATION. WE HAVE A HIGH ATTENDANCE IN THE PAST, AND THERE'S A NEED OUT THERE. CAN THAT BE A FUTURE BOND CONSIDERATION? WE DON'T KNOW. BUT IF WE PUT THE FENCE AROUND, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING. IS THAT POSSIBLE? BECAUSE BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE COST DEMOLISHES THE INCREASE IN EVERY YEAR. WE WE DON'T DO IT NOW. SO MY QUESTION, IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH FENCES, WHAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, SIR? BILL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE COST OF THE FENCE IS PROBABLY THE SAME AMOUNT AS THE COST OF THE DEMOLITION. IT IS EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. ON TOP OF THAT, YOU HAVE TEENAGERS THAT ARE GOING TO TRY TO BREAK IN AND GET IN THE POOL GETTING THE REC CENTER. SO NOW YOU ADD THE SAFETY CONCERNS TO THAT. FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, FENCE WOULDN'T BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MAKE. I THINK. RESPONSE. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING AFTER THAT? YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT. THE OTHER THOUGHT TOO IS, AND MAYBE I'M NOT GETTING EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING, BUT LIKE WITH THE THOUGHT OF MAYBE REUSING WHAT'S THERE AS PART OF THE FUTURE BOND, I, I, WHILE YOU POSSIBLY COULD, I MEAN, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS GOING TO BE THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEHIND WALLS, LIKE ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, IT'S ALL STILL GOING TO BE OLD. SO YOU'D ALMOST HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, A COMPLETE GUT OF THE INTERIOR TO KEEP THE OUTSIDE WALLS. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU GET VERY MUCH OUT OF IT. AND THEN I WOULD THINK IF [03:40:01] YOU WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, YOU'D PROBABLY WANT A BIGGER SIZE OR RECONFIGURATION OF IT. SO THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S AT THAT POINT, YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST REDESIGN AND START OVER RATHER THAN TRYING TO SPARE, YOU KNOW, THIS WALL OR THAT WALL ON THE EXTERIOR AND THEN GUT THE INSIDE OF IT TO GET ALL THE OLD ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING OUT. SO I'M NOT SURE THERE'S A LOT OF COST SAVINGS TO TRYND INCORPORATE THAT GET YOU. SO YOU ARE SEEKING SEEK US DIRECTION TODAY. WE WE HAVE STILL THE AUGUST THE 17TH. YOU HAVE SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS TO DISCUSS. BUT I WILL ULTIMATELY LOOK AT THE. TOWARDS THE CITY COUNCIL TO DETERMINE YOUR EXACT TIMELINE ON WHEN YOU'RE FEELING READY OR HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU TO MAKE THAT DELIBERATION. AND JUST IF I MAY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION REGARDING A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM, CERTIFIED VALUES DO HELP INFLUENCE HOW MUCH LONG TERM DEBT CAPACITY YOU HAVE. THAT'S TYPICALLY DISCUSSED DURING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROCESS. I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT WE ARE STILL, IN THE EARLY YEARS OF OUR 2025 BOND PROGRAM, MAJOR INVESTMENT IN OUR STREET, SIDEWALK AND ALLEY INFRASTRUCTURE, INVESTMENT IN THE GARLAND ON THE RISE ECONOMIC REDEVELOPMENT, AND STILL FINISHING UP SOME OF THOSE 2019 BOND PROJECTS. AND I BELIEVE, AS MANY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ARE AWARE, FOR OUR 2019 BOND PROGRAM, IT WAS STUDIED IN 2018, WENT TO THE VOTERS IN MAY OF 2019. WE STARTED DESIGN ON MANY OF THE PROJECTS RIGHT AWAY, AND THEN THE PANDEMIC CHANGED THE ENTIRE PRICING MODEL FOR MANY OF MUCH OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, AND IT'S ONLY ESCALATED SINCE THEN. SO OUR 2019 BOND PROGRAM ESSENTIALLY DOUBLED IN COST TO DELIVER. WHAT WAS THAT, 423.7 MILLION TOTAL BOND PROPOSITION. AND MANY OF THE PARKS FACILITIES YOU THINK OF, YOU KNOW, HOLFORD, IT HAD ESCALATION, BUT YOU THINK OF THE SENIOR CENTER SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS A FACILITY THAT WAS AN OLDER FACILITY TO BE RENOVATED. I BELIEVE THERE WAS ABOUT 4 MILLION DEDICATED IN THE BOND PROGRAM. THE WHEN WE GOT INTO THE INTERIOR AND KIND OF THE WALLS OF THAT FACILITY, IT COULDN'T SUPPORT BEING RENOVATED. AND THAT TRIPLED IN PRICE FROM, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS FROM THAT ORIGINAL BOND DOLLAR TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, DESIGNING AND CONSTRUCTING NEW. SO I JUST WANT TO CAUTION THE COUNCIL, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS, THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE PEAK IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR 2025 AND WORKING THROUGH THAT 2019. AND WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AT A LATER DATE ABOUT TIMING OF FUTURE. BUT WE STILL ARE IN A CAPITAL INTENSIVE PERIOD. AND SO OBLIGATING OURSELVES BEFORE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE FULL LIST OF THOSE PROJECTS AND EVERYTHING ENTAILED TO DELIVER WHAT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS, WE MAY BE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, MR. TRAN AND TO THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THIS QUESTION IS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM? ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE RECOGNIZED IN SENATE BILL TWO BEING ADOPTED AFTER 2019 IS WE PUT A BOND PROGRAM IN PLACE TO BUILD A BUNCH OF FACILITIES, AND THEN THE LEGISLATURE PASSED SENATE BILL TWO IN PLACE, AND IT MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT THEN FOR US. THE IDEA AT THE TIME WAS WHEN YOU WERE DONE WITH THE DEBT CAPACITY AND DIDN'T NEED THE DEBT CAPACITY, YOU WOULD FOLD THAT INTO YOUR OPERATING CAPACITY SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THOSE FACILITIES ABSENT EITHER SOME RELIEF FROM SENATE BILL TWO OR SUCCESS OF THE GARLAND GARLAND ON THE RISE PLAN, WHERE WE INCREASE OUR SALES TAX AND COMMERCIAL TAX BASE THAT'S NOT SUBJECT TO, OR MUCH OF WHICH ISN'T SUBJECT TO SENATE BILL TWO. EVEN IF WE COULD BUILD A NEW FACILITY THERE, THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE AFFORD TO OPERATE IT AS A CITY? THAT IS, THIS IS $600,000 A YEAR TO OPERATE IF YOU BUILD A NEW, BIGGER FACILITY THERE, WHICH IS WHAT OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WOULD WANT. THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE GET THE FUNDS TO OPERATE THAT IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE SENATE BILL TWO SHRINKS OUR OPERATING CAPACITY EVERY YEAR? AND SO I THINK THE ANSWER WOULD BE IT'S NOT A SHORT TERM GOAL THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT A BOND PROGRAM INTO PLACE, BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK, AND THE TAXPAYERS WOULD HAVE TO BE WILLING TO AGREE TO INCREASE OUR OPERATING REVENUES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THAT REVENUE. IT A QUESTION OF WHAT'S THE CAPACITY OF OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THE OPERATION OF THAT UNDER ITS CURRENT TAX BASE? OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP QUESTION. I THINK THAT'S GREAT TO MENTION ABOUT SB TWO AND POTENTIAL. THAT MIGHT CAP DOWN TO LESS THAN 3.5%, AND THAT WOULD BE THAT. [03:45:02] JUST A QUESTION FOR THE RESIDENT. LET'S SAY IF WE. IF HERE IF ALL COUNCILS SAY, WELL, WE ALL WANT THIS TO STAY AND AND WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS THE LIGHT ON BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY. RIGHT. THAT WILL BE AFFECTING ALL OUR CORE SERVICES, LIKE A PUBLIC SAFETY LIBRARY. WHAT IS THE TRADE OFF? SO WE CAN EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS TO SAY WE REALLY, REALLY WANT TO KEEP THIS ON. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHAT WE HAVE CLOSED LIBRARY. IS THAT A OURS OR SPECIFIC LIBRARY? SO WE CAN THE RESIDENT CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE TRADE OFF. WE HAVEN'T MODELED THAT, ALTHOUGH THE WHAT I'VE SAID TO COUNCIL IN THE PAST IS IF YOU SAY THAT WE WANT TO KEEP THIS FACILITY OPEN, MY QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL WOULD BE IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS AND DELIBERATIONS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE US TO CLOSE? SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE CLOSE TO ELIMINATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDING? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. WE'RE PAYING FOR THE LIFEGUARDS AND THE OPERATING COSTS AT AT THE SURF AND SWIM WITH ONE TIME MONEY. ONE TIME MONEY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S ONE TIME AND IT RUNS OUT. AND THE QUESTION IS, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE UP SOMEWHERE. AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD THE 2.2, AND THAT'S A DECISION THE COUNCIL MAKES BASED ON WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE US TO CLOSE? AND THE QUESTION IS, TELL US, WHAT DO WE DO LESS OF? DO WE DO WE REDUCE LIBRARY HOURS? DO WE REDUCE SENIOR CENTER HOURS? DO WE USE HAVE LESS AVAILABILITY AT SOME OF THE NEW FACILITIES THAT WE JUST BUILT? WHAT DO WE DO LESS OF? AND THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL. IT'S IT'S NOT REALLY A STAFF QUESTIO I MEAN, YOU WILL PRESENT YOU OPTIONS IF YOU TELL US FIND OPTIONS OF WHAT ELSE WE CAN CLOSE. WE'D BE HAPPY TO COME BACK, BUT WE WOULD NEED DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF WHAT DO YOU WANT LESS OF? IF YOU WANT MORE OF THIS, THEN YOU HAVE LESS OF SOMETHING ELSE. THE QUESTION IS JUST IS DO YOU PUT MORE OF SOMETHING INTO A FACILITY THAT IS AT ITS END OF LIFE TO GET LESS OF SOMETHING THAT WE JUST BUILT? AND THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL AND FOR YOUR RESIDENTS. GREAT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT ANSWER ME A LOT OF QUESTION. SO THE LAST ONE, IF WE ARE TO T ROLE OF CLOSING IS DO WE DO WE POTENTIALLY CAN HAVE A TRANSITION PLAN TO DIRECT THE RESIDENT, WHERE TO GO AND SO ON? YES. AS FAR AS THE RECREATION CENTER USERS, YES. WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY INFORM THEM, LET THEM KNOW IF THEIR CLASS IS MOVING TO ANOTHER FACILITY WHERE IT WOULD BE SAME WITH THE CONTRACT INSTRUCTORS THAT WE HAVE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW WE HAVE MAPS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE CLOSEST THIS IS THE NEAREST FACILITY FOR YOU TO UTILIZE. SO YES, WE WOULD START THAT COMMUNICATION ONCE WE KNEW DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS. SO IF WE IF WE DECIDE TO CLOSE IT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW. RIGHT. AND SO NO DECISION HAS BEEN MADE TODAY. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER THREE WEEKS AND CHANGE TO MAKE THIS DECISION. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? ROUGHLY, WE'LL LOOK TO THE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHEN YOU'RE READY TO SEEK THAT DELIBERATION. BUT BASED ON THE CALENDAR, YOU'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DISCUSSION ON AUGUST 1ST, FOURTH, AUGUST 11TH, AND THEN WE'LL BE SEEKING TO FINAL DIRECTION ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET THE NIGHT OF ADOPTION ON THAT AUGUST 17TH. OKAY. AND SO BUT EVEN IF WE AT SOME POINT DECIDED TO CLOSE IT, IT'S STILL GOING TO STAY OPEN FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. IS THAT SO? THE SO THE POOL WILL BE OPEN UNTIL UNTIL IT'S NO LONGER HOT, LIKE CHRISTMAS DAY. NO, WE WILL NOT BE OPEN UNTIL CHRISTMAS DAY. BUT ON THAT THE POOLS THING LIKE THIS, THE POOLS ARE ONLY OPEN ONCE SCHOOL GOES BACK INTO SESSION, WHICH I BELIEVE IS AUGUST THE 10TH. THEN THE POOLS ARE ONLY OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS, SO WE WOULDN'T BE OPEN DURING THE WEEK, SO WE WOULD MAINTAIN. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND OF COURSE MAINTAIN WHAT IS CURRENTLY GOING ON AT THE RECREATION CENTER UNTIL WHATEVER THAT CUTOFF TIME IS. OKAY. AND SO, SO WE GOT ENOUGH IN THE BUDGET TO CONTINUE FOR THE REST OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. YES. AND SO WOULD THEN WOULD YOU SEE THAT DEMOLISHING IF WE IF WE DECIDE TO GO THAT WAY, WOULD YOU SEE US DEMOLISHING THAT SOMETIME IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR? MOST LIKELY, AS SOON AS WE GET DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, WE WILL START THE BIDDING PROCESS. AND YES, MOST LIKELY WE'LL COORDINATE WITH PARKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE READY TO CLOSE. AND YES, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S MY ANTICIPATION. FOURTH QUARTER OR FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 27. OKAY. AND THAT WOULD BECOME, I DON'T KNOW, JUST GRASS WOULD PUT GRASS FIELD AND JUST BE AN OPEN FIELD FOR NOW UNTIL, UNTIL WHEN. AND IF WE HAD ANOTHER BOND ELECTION. AND I THINK THERE'S SOME [03:50:09] RESTRICTION ON HOW OFTEN WE CAN HAVE BOND ELECTIONS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S NOT TRUE. WE COULD HAVE A BOND ELECTION EVERY SUMMER. WE ARE LIMITED BY REALLY TWO FACTORS. ONE IS OUR EXISTING DEBT CAPACITY AND OUR DESIRE TO NOT INCREASE OUR DEBT SERVICE RATE. WE'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING TO DECREASE O OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE THIS UPCOMING YEAR AS PART OF WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING GOING TO THE VOTERS THIS NOVEMBER. AND THAT WAS BALANCED IN DIRECTION WITH CITY COUNCIL BACK IN JANUARY BASED ON OUR 2026 CIP AND REALLY JUST ALL THE PROJECTS WE HAVE IN FLIGHT, REALLY RELATED TO FINISHING THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM IN 2025 BOND PROGRAM. THERE'S ALSO A SECONDARY CONSIDERATION, THOUGH SMALLER IS JUST THE COST OF AN ELECTION THAT CONTINUES TO INCREASE. IT'S ANYWHERE FROM 200,000 TO 600,000 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SO JUST ENSURING WE HAD THE ONE TIME FUNDS, IF WE MOVE TO AN ANNUAL BOND ELECTION CYCLE, WOULD WOULD NEED TO BE A BUDGET CONSIDERATION FOR THE COUNCIL AS WELL. AND THE THING THAT I SAID EARLIER, WHICH IS ANYTHING ELSE WE BUILD, WE WILL NEED TO FIND OPERATIONAL FUNDS TO OPERATE IN THE SENATE BILL TWO ENVIRONMENT. SO IF THE TAXPAYERS COME TO US AND SAY, WE'D LIKE TO PAY MORE TAXES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER BOND ELECTION AND VOTE TO REBUILD BRADFIELD, AND WE WANT TO WE'RE HAPPY WITH INCREASING THE TAX RATE. PLEASE DO THAT IF WE ULD. IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO GET BRADFIELD BACK, THEN THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO GO, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE CAN IF THEY WANT US TO RAISE THE TAX RATE, WE CAN CERTAINLY ACCOMMODATE THEM. YES, SIR. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S MY MY QUESTIONS HERE. BUT BRADFIELD WILL BE OPEN FOR THE REST OF THE SUMMER. AND SO THE PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING THE POOL RIGHT NOW CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TAKING YOUR KIDS DOWN THERE FOR FOR MEMORIES THAT YOU HAD WHEN YOU WERE A KID, WELL, NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A LUNCH BREAK HERE. I ASK THAT YOU BE BACK AT 115. WE'LL PICK UP OUR DISCUSSION THEN. WE'RE IN RECESS. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, WE [3. Council Discussion and Deliberation on the FY 2026-27 Proposed Budget] ARE BACK NOW. I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GOOD LUNCH, AND WE'LL PICK UP OUR DISCUSSION WHERE WE LEFT OFF. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BRADFIELD, BUT WE'RE REALLY ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET. SO IT'S REALLY OPEN DISCUSSION ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO HAVE REGARDING THE BUDGET. I REALLY HAVE TWO POINTS THAT I'VE HEARD DURING THIS DISCUSSION THAT MAY BE DECISION POINTS FOR US. ONE IS ABOUT FEES. THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION AROUND ADDITIONAL OPTIONS ON FEES AT BOTH THE LANDFILL AND AT RECREATION CENTERS AND POOLS FOR POSSIBLE DISCUSSION. AND THEN THERE'S THE BRADFIELD REC CENTER DISCUSSION AS WELL. COUNCILMEMBER LUCK, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM A CONSTITUENT DURING THE MEETING, AND WE QUICKLY GO OVER WHY EMPLOYEES ARE PART OF THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET AND HOW, HOW THAT BASICALLY WORKS. JUST THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CIP AND OPERATIONAL. HAPPY TO DO THAT. SO THE OPERATING BUDGET IS THINK OF EVERYTHING YOU NEED ON A DAILY BASIS TO RUN A CITY. THAT WOULD BE THE EMPLOYEES, THE SUPPLIES, THE COST OF THE BUILDING BEING OPEN AND THE LIGHTS ON AND THE UTILITY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THAT'S FUNDED BY YOUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, AND ANY RATES OR FEES OR RELEVANT OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH US PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES OR THOSE BEING SERVICES OPEN OR APPLICABLE STATE LAWS THAT ALLOW US TO HAVE A REVENUE SOURCE FROM THOSE ACTIVITIES. YOUR DEBT SERVICE PORTION OF THE TAX RATE CAN STRICTLY, OR IT'S CALLED I AND S, WHICH INTERESTS IT'S FOR INTEREST AND SINKING FUND. IT'S SPECIFIC TO WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE FUNDING DEBT SERVICE THAT WAS DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTING EQUIPPING, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL PROJECTS, OUR FACILITIES OR PURCHASING LARGE SCALE EQUIPMENT TO RUN OUR DAILY OPERATIONS BY OUR POLICIES, THESE EXPENDITURES TYPICALLY EXCEED $100,000. IN PRACTICE. THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT. WE'RE TALKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TYPICALLY. AND THAT PORTION OF THE TAX RATE FOR DEBT SERVICE, OR YOUR NS PORTION CAN ONLY BE USED TO [03:55:03] SERVICE THE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTIVITIES IN THE CIP, YOU CANNOT FUND SALARIES OR ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT, WHICH IS WHY WHEN WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS ABOUT REBALANCING OUR TAX RATE, IT HASN'T INVOLVED THAT SHIFT AND BEING VERY CLEAR IN OUR, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNICATION AND PLANNING FOR THAT, THAT ANY SHIFT BETWEEN THE TWO PORTIONS OF THE RATE WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS BASED ON STATE LAW. AND WHEN THE FACILITIES THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM CAME ONLINE, LIKE SURF AND SWIM. WHAT IS IT? SB TWO HAS LIMITED OUR ABILITY TO FUND OPERATIONAL ■COSTS FOR THOSE FACILITIES, BECAUSE THE LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURE PUT A 3.5% CAP ON OUR ABILITY TO COLLECT TAX REVENUE. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WHEN THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM CAME INTO INCEPTION AND WAS BEING DISCUSSED, SB TWO WAS NOT IN PLACE. SO THE VOTERS APPROVED THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM. MAY OF 2019. PARDON ME? AT THAT TIME, THE THE CONTEMPLATION WAS INCREASING THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE THAT SIX AND A HALF CENTS TO ENSURE WE HAD THE FUNDING TO CONSTRUCT THOSE FACILITIES AND SERVICE THE DEBT OF CONSTRUCTING THOSE, YOU KNOW, THE FACILITIES WHICH ABOUT THE PROP TOTAL PROPOSITION WAS $423.7 MILLION. SO THE DEBT SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 7 YEARS, THAT FOLLOWING IN THAT SAME YEAR, THERE WAS A LEGISLATIVE CYCLE HAPPENING, AND THEY PASSED A SENATE BILL TWO IN THAT 2019 LEGISLATIVE CYCLE. AND IT TOOK A TIME FROM FOR CITIES AND T M, L AND ALL THE GROUPS TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE IMPACT WAS GOING TO BE. WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO LIMIT. BUT WHAT THAT DID IS IT NOT ONLY CAPPED YOUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE, TAKING IT FROM REALLY WHAT WAS A PREVIOUS CAP? ABOUT 8%, EFFECTIVELY DOWN TO 3.5%. BUT IT CAPPED IT REMOVED THE ABILITY FOR A CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE BETWEEN PORTIONS OF THE EXISTING RATE, IT SAID. ANY CHANGE IN YOUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE RATE OR THE RATE THAT FUNDS YOUR GENERAL FUND, BEYOND THAT, 3.5% HAS TO GO TO THE VOTERS IN A NOVEMBER ELECTION. AND SO IF WE HAD THAT KNOWLEDGE AT THE TIME OF THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM, I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME AND CITY MANAGEMENT AT THAT TIME WOULD HAVE ALSO JUST GOTTEN THAT VOTER APPROVAL FOR THE OPERATIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROGRAM. LIKE WE WOULD RECOMMEND IF, WHEN IT'S AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO CONSIDER OUR NEXT PROGRAM, THAT WOULD HAVE OPERATING COSTS WOULD PUT PUT THAT FULL PACKAGE TOGETHER, NOT JUST BE FOCUSED MORE ON THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE OF THE EQUATION AND THE INCREASE REQUIRED THERE. SO IT WAS WE, YOU KNOW, STARTED THE BOND PROGRAM WITH A WITH A BIG OPERATIONAL IMPACT. AND THEN LEGISLATION CHANGED ON US BEFORE WE COULD REALLY SEE THAT THROUGH. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO I'M SORRY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ABSORB SOME AMOUNT OF THE OPERATIONAL INCREASE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BY HAVING SOME VERY HEALTHY YEARS AND OTHER LEGISLATIVE CHANGE, SPECIFICALLY IN SALES TAX SOURCING. AND OUR SALES TAX BASE HAS GROWN FROM ABOUT 30 MILLION TO 45 MILLION. NOW, THAT'S STILL A VERY MODEST SALES TAX BASE FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE. BUT JUST THE GROWTH IN THAT CORE REVENUE HAS HELPED US, YOU KNOW, PROLONG HOW HOW QUICKLY WE HAD TO GO TO THE VOTERS UNDER THIS NEW MODEL OF SHORING UP YOUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE ON THE PROPERTY TAX RATE SIDE. SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT THE OPERATING COSTS FOR THESE FACILITIES ARE A SURPRISE, MORE SO THAT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF HAMPERED BY SB TWO AND HOW WE HOW EASILY WE CAN FUND THEM. THAT'S ACCURATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL. SO ASKING FIRST ABOUT FEES I THINK FEES. EVERYONE'S ALL RIGHT WITH THE WHAT WE'VE SEEN WE WERE ASKED FOR IN OUR FUTURE MEETINGS TO COME BACK WITH SOME OF THE OPTIONS, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY BIG CHANGES OR ANYTHING TO FEE STRUCTURE FOR UTILITIES OR ANY OTHER FEES THAT WERE DISCUSSED TODAY. WE'LL TURN NOW BACK TO THE BRADFIELD REC CENTER DISCUSSION. WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, BUT CERTAINLY WANT TO. WE WILL IN FUTURE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT. GIVE YOU MY OPINION ON THAT. I THINK CITY MANAGER PUT IT PROPERLY, LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT OPEN, THEN WHAT ELSE ARE WE GOING TO CLOSE TO TO HAVE THAT OPERATIONAL COST THERE? IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR BACK TO THE HISTORY OF WHEN THE BOND, WHEN WE WERE TALKING 2019 [04:00:06] BOND THAT THAT WAS ONE OF OUR OUR HIGHER REC CENTERS AT THE TIME, WHICH I KNOW HOLFORD WAS ONE THAT WHEN WE HAD TO COMPLETELY TEAR THAT DOWN AND THERE WAS NEVER A CONSIDERATION OF KEEPING A PORTION OF THAT TO INCLUDE IN THE NEW STRUCTURE, I KNOW AS A WORKING FOR AN ARCHITECTURE FIRM, WHEN YOU'RE HAVING TO REHAB AN OLD STRUCTURE, IT'S ALWAYS MORE DIFFICULT THAN IF YOU WERE JUST ABLE TO HAVE A GREENFIELD AND TRY TO REBUILD THAT. SO WE WERE GOING TO, I DON'T THINK KEEPING THAT OR ANY PORTION OF THAT OR FOUNDATION. YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE FOUNDATION ISSUES IN THE GYM? I DON'T THINK THAT'S WISE TO TRY TO KEEP SOMETHING THAT OR MOTHBALL THAT AND TRY TO USE ANY PORTION OF THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND UP THERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ROOF NEEDS MAINTENANCE. IF WE WERE JUST GOING TO MOTHBALL THAT, THAT ROOF IS PROBABLY GOING TO LEAK. IF WE DON'T PUT MONEY INTO THAT TO FIX THAT. AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO CREATE MOLD AND OTHER ISSUES INSIDE THAT BUILDING AND TRY TO KEEP THAT GOING. SO FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE DISCUSSION, I'M, I'M FOR TEARING THAT FACILITY DOWN AND TALKING IN A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM ABOUT POSSIBLY. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE IS $1 BILLION WORTH OF OTHER PROJECTS IN THE 2019 BOND. AND IF WE DO HAVE ANOTHER BOND PROGRAM IN SEVERAL YEARS, I WOULD LOVE FOR WHAT COMMITTEE HERE TO SEE IF THAT'S A PRIORITY AT THE TIME OR NOT. AND ALL THESE DISCUSSION ONLINE ABOUT TO SAVE IT. I HOPE THAT THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AT THAT TIME. IF AND WHEN WE HAVE THAT TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PRIORITIES FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO HAVE IN THEIR DISTRICT ON ANY FUTURE BOND. SO. WELL, THEN I GUESS I WILL ASK FOR CONSENSUS THEN ON, ON HAVING THE BOND. IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO CHIME IN. MAYOR PRO TEM, I THANK YOU. MAYOR. I AGREE THAT THE FACILITY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFFLINE AND THAT WE NEED TO THAT THE POOL CLEARLY SHOWS THAT IT'S IT'S DAY HAS COME. PEOPLE HAVE VOTED WITH THEIR FEET. THEY'RE GOING TO THE OTHER FACILITIES AND THEY'RE MOSTLY TEACHING SWIMMING LESSONS AT THIS FACILITY. SO AND SINCE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT CAN ABSORB THAT USE ELSEWHERE, AND THOSE ARE BETTER FACILITIES. AND IT WAS THAT WAS LARGELY EXPECTED. WE KNEW THAT THAT ONCE WE HAD SURF AND SWIM, WHICH IS OUR CLEAR SUPERSTAR, THAT THIS WAS GOING TO OCCUR. SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR THE POOL TO REMAIN AS FAR AS THE BUILDING ITSELF. IT IT SEEMS A LITTLE ABRUPT TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT IMMEDIATELY. AND THEN IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, GO AHEAD AND PUT IT IN TO ROLL OFF DUMPSTERS. I, I WOULD MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO. I DODON'T THIN THAT THE HOLDING COST OF A CLOSED BUILDING IS GOING TO BE THAT GREAT FOR A YEAR, TAKE A YEAR TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS AND, YOU KNOW, CLOSE THE FACILITY, NOT HAVE ANY EVENTS THERE. AND THEN JUST BUT DEMOLISH THE POOL BECAUSE A POOL THAT IS CLOSED HAS TO BE IT HAS TO EITHER YOU HAVE TO FILL IT IN OR YOU HAVE TO PLAN TO MAINTAIN IT OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER TRENT, THANK YOU, MAYOR, WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, I THINK THAT AND WITH OUR FINANCIAL CONDITION, I WOULD SAY IT IS SET TO THAT WE DO TO CLOSE. AND THEN I THINK THAT'S THAT IS THE IT'S THE FINANCIAL CONDITION WE WISH. I'LL GO FOR IT. WHAT ASKING FOR IS THAT IF POSSIBLE, WE MAY HAVE SOME KIND OF TRANSITION PLANS. I KNOW THAT DIFFERENT USERS, DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE AND AND HOW DO WE GIVE THEM DIRECTION TO GO TO DIFFERENT NEARBY. POOLS AND PARKS, BUT ALSO THE QUESTION ALSO COME BACK AND SAY, BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE WALKING DISTANCE FROM THEIR LOCATION TO THAT IF THEY DO MOVE TO OTHER PLACES, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION. SO THE QUESTION IS FLYING. SO IF WE HAVE SOME KIND OF HIGH LEVEL OF THE IF THIS TYPE OF USER FROM THE RECREATION, THEY SHOULD GO THERE. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME KIND OF ENCOURAGEMENTS I HEARD IN THE PAST THAT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN HELP THE TRANSITION TO FOR, FOR RESIDENTS TO DIFFERENT LOCATION THAT WILL BE HELPFUL AND EASIER TO COMMUNICATE TO OUR RESIDENTS? SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD ASK FOR IF THAT IS POSSIBLE, A TRANSITION PLAN, IF THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL IS TO CLOSE THE FACILITY, WE WILL COME BACK DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS NOW WITH A TRANSITION PLAN AND SAY, HERE'S HOW USERS ARE STILL GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET SWIM LESSONS. OUR RESIDENTS, HERE'S HOW, WHERE SOME PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO RELOCATE, AND HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO [04:05:01] FACILITATE THAT, AND WE CAN COME BACK WITH THAT PLAN FOR COUNCIL. WE HAVE THAT PLAN. SO I WOULD I WOULD OKAY WITH YES. IF YOU ASK FOR CONSENT TODAY. THANK YOU SIR. ANYBODY ELSE TO RESPOND TO MAYOR PRO TEM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE WOULD GET IN A YEAR. WE'VE DONE A FACILITY STUDY ALREADY OF THE FACILITY. I THINK IT WOULD JUST GET WORSE OVER A YEAR RATHER THAN BETTER. I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WOULD COME TO LIGHT DURING THAT TIME PERIOD IF WE JUST HELD HELD ON TO IT FOR A YEAR WOULD JUST BE A AN OPERATIONAL HIT JUST FOR YOUR MONEY FOR A YEAR. JUST PUTTING IT ASIDE. SO THAT'S MY OPINION ON THAT. COUNCIL, THEN I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE THEN LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON CLOSING THE REC CENTER. THEN AT THE END OF YEAH. CLOSING IT. OKAY. CLOSING IT. YES. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CHIME IN SIR? YES. MAYOR PRO TEM, BY CLOSING IT, ARE YOU MEANING TO CLOSING BOTH AND DEMOLISHING BOTH? YES, SIR. OH, AND I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT IF YOU DIVIDED IT INTO TWO SEPARATE THINGS. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. I'M NOT IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S ONE 7 TO 1. WE'LL PUT THE RECORD 7 TO 1. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? WE CERTAINLY HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS POSSIBLE COMING UP IN THE FUTURE. DIFFERENT DATES. I SEE NONE. AND DO YOU WANT TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS THAT WE WILL HAVE A CITY WIDE TOWN HALL MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY, JULY 29TH AT 630 AT HOLFORD REC. I HOPE THAT EVERYONE CAN COME TO THAT, AS WE'LL BE TALKING CERTAINLY MORE ABOUT BUDGET ISSUES AND A FUTURE TAX RATE ELECTION AT THAT TIME. SO COUNCIL, AT 129. WE'RE ADJOURNED. GOOD AFTERNOON. GARLAND. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.