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PRAYER AND A PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT. NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION. ARE YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF YOUR VISION? SO IF YOU CARE TO JOIN ME, DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER AND HELP DIRECT THIS FUTURE OF THIS FINE CITY. WE THANK YOU FOR THESE COMMISSIONERS WHO OFFER UP THEIR PERSONAL TIME TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION, AND TO STAFF WHO DEVOTE SO MUCH OF THEIR TIME AND CARING INTO HELPING US OUT WITH OUR DUTIES. WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN OUR ARMED FORCES AND ALL THOSE WEARING THE UNIFORM FIREPLACE AND EVERYBODY AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND WE ASK THAT EVERYBODY WOULD MAKE IT HOME SAFE AND SOUND TONIGHT AND HAVE HELP THROUGH THE COMING WEEKS. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING. THANK YOU FOR COMING. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE GET INTO BUSINESS HERE, I WAS REMISS AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND I DID NOT INTRODUCE OUR NEW COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER HILLIARD FROM DISTRICT TWO WAS HERE AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND I FORGOT TO INTRODUCE YOU. AND THREE, THAT'S HOW WELL I KEEP TRACK OF THE POLITICS OF WHO'S IN WHAT YOU DO. WELCOME ABOARD, SIR, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER PARIS FOR HER PREVIOUS SERVICE IN THAT DISTRICT. SHE SERVED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AND WE MISS HER. BUT WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR YOUR INPUT HERE, SIR. NOW, I WOULD SAY YOU'RE THE LATEST NEW COMMISSIONER, BUT YOU'RE NOT.
NOW WE HAVE COMMISSIONER LUCIDO HERE FROM DISTRICT FIVE. I WROTE IT DOWN, AND I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO THE COMMISSION. AND IN THE AUDIENCE IS A PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER.
COMMISSIONER JONES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND WELCOMING THE NEW COMMISSIONER AND HELPING OUT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE, SIR. WELL, DID YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE YOUR 1520 MINUTES AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES OR JUST LET IT GO AT THAT? I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO LET IT GO. ALL RIGHT. IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT, IF YOU'LL PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THESE YELLOW SPEAKER CARDS AND HAND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY. THAT WAY WE CAN CALL YOU UP. AND WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, IF YOU'LL PLEASE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE. WE NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS. APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
OTHER SPEAKERS WE ALLOW THREE. BUT YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR A GROUP, AND I USE THIS EXAMPLE EVERY TIME, LIKE A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION WILL DEFINITELY ALLOW SOME MORE TIME. AND AFTER EVERYBODY'S PRESENTED, IF THERE'S THERE'S A NEED, WE ASK THE APPLICANT BACK UP TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. GOING INTO THE
[a. July 13, 2026 Plan Commission Minutes]
AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM ONE, A CONSIDERATION OF THE JULY 13TH, 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES. AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. AND I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MIRANDA TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. THESE ARE ALWAYS TOUGH VOTES. MR. HILLIER, CAN YOU PRESS YOUR VOTE? ENTER. THANK YOU. AND[a. Z 25-30 JPMorgan Chase (District 5)]
THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM ITEM TWO A. OKAY, THIS IS Z25-30. J.P. MORGAN CHASE. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF J.P. MORGAN CHASE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT, DISTRICT COMMUNITY, RETAIL AND DISTRICT AND PD C R TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING TO MODIFY PARKING STANDARDS AND APPROVE A NEW CONCEPT PLAN. THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 1000 WEST CENTERVILLE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY MAY WANT TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM. THAT IS CORRECT, CHAIRMAN. OKAY. IS A DATE. SEPTEMBER 14TH. SEPTEMBER 14TH. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, THIS APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO POSTPONE TO FURTHER WORK WITH STAFF, I BELIEVE. IS ANYBODY[00:05:03]
HERE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THAT CASE? I MEANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT. OKAY, GOOD. SO WE CAN HEAR THE PRESENTATION OR GO DIRECTLY TO A POSTPONEMENT. I WANT TO DO IT. COMMISSIONER ABLE, COMMISSIONER ABLE. MOTION TO POSTPONE. WE NEED A MOTION TO POSTPONE, AND WE NEED THE STATE SPECIFIC. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO SEPTEMBER 14TH. SEPTEMBER 14TH. ALL RIGHT. AS REQUESTED. OKAY. AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS TO POSTPONE THIS CASE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 14TH. MEETING. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHTY. ITEM TWO B, ALL THE[b. Z 26-19 Glamour by Jessica (District 5)]
PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF GLAMOR BY JESSICA REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A PERSONAL SERVICE USE AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR PERSONAL SERVICE USE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT. THE SITE IS ZONED PLANNING DISTRICT COMMUNITY OFFICE DISTRICT 11-03. SITE IS LOCATED AT 2903 SATURN ROAD. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN STEWART. SORRY ONCE AGAIN, PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. THE APPLICANT. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION TO ALLOW FOR A PERSONAL SERVICE USE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2903 SATURN ROAD, IS A 0.231 ACRE TRACT ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 11-03 WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY OFFICE AND IS LOCATED WITHIN DISTRICT FIVE. THE SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR PERSONAL SERVICE USES ON MARCH 2011, WITH A 15 YEAR'S U. P WHICH HAS SINCE EXPIRED. HERE IS OUR ZONING MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND THE NEARBY ZONING DISTRICTS BEING PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY AS F SEVEN, AS WELL AS OTHER LOW INTENSITY NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.THE PROPERTY ABUTS A VACANT PROPERTY ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE TO THE NORTH AND A PROPERTY ZONED P D WITH A COMMUNITY OFFICE BASE ZONING TO THE SOUTH WITH AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING USE WITH THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND THE WEST BOTH ZONED SF7. THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST BEING AN EXISTING CHURCH AND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST ACROSS SATURN ROAD. BEING AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE AREA AS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH FOCUSES ON LOW TO MODERATE INTENSITY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCES, WHILE ALSO ALLOWING FOR CERTAIN LIMITED COMMERCIAL USES, SUCH AS PERSONAL SERVICES, TO SERVE THE NEARBY RESIDENCES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. THE SITE IS ALSO WITHIN AN IDENTIFIED ECONOMIC FOCUS AREA KNOWN AS THE WEDGE, AS OUTLINED IN THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN. GARLAND ON THE RISE. THE STRATEGIC PLAN PROMOTES SHIFTING AWAY FROM LOW VALUE, AUTOMOBILE ORIENTED USES AND TOWARDS HOUSING, MIXED USE CENTERS, AND WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT THAT SUPPORTS CORRIDOR REINVESTMENT. WHILE THIS SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE CORRIDORS WHERE THE REINVESTMENT EFFORT WOULD FIRST BE INITIATED, THE PROPOSED USE CAN BE CONSIDERED ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE SHORT TERM, AS IT CONTINUES TO PROVIDE A SERVICE TO THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS. HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM SATURN ROAD. THE PROPERTY CONTAINS A ROW OF FOUR PARKING SPACES AT THE FRONT OF THE PLANNER AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AS WELL AS A SMALL LANDSCAPED AREA ADJACENT TO SATURN ROAD. THE PLANTERS LOCATED BETWEEN THE PARKING ROW AND THE FRONT BUILDING FACADE. AND HERE WE CAN SEE THE EXISTING. I'M SORRY. THERE YOU GO. AND HERE WE CAN SEE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, WHERE TWO ADDITIONAL ROWS OF PARKING EXISTS, CONSISTING OF A ROW OF FOUR SPACES AND A ROW OF SIX SPACES AT THE REAR PROPERTY LINE. THE SITE CONTAINS A TOTAL OF 14 ON SITE PARKING SPACES. WHILE THIS EXCEEDS THE CURRENT GDC PARKING ALLOWANCE, THESE SPACES WERE PERMITTED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE GDC AND ARE CONSIDERED LEGAL NONCONFORMING.
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ON THE PICTURE TO THE LEFT, WE CAN SEE A DILAPIDATED CHAIN LINK GATE WITHIN THE SOUTHERN SIDE YARD, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO REMOVE AS A CONDITION OF THE APPROVAL TO IMPROVE THE STREETSCAPE ALONG SATURN ROAD. IN THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT, WE CAN SEE AN EXISTING ROW OF FIVE PARKING SPACES LOCATED ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY ā AT 2903 SATURN, WHICH IS ALSO OWNED BY THE APPLICANT AND ARE USED BY THE CLIENTS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, BRINGING THE TOTAL PARKING UTILIZED BY THIS USE TO 19 SPACES. WHILE THE GDC LIMITS OFF SITE PARKING TO 25% OF THE REQUIRED PARKING AND REQUIRES A MUTUAL PARKING AGREEMENT, THIS EXISTING ROW OF PARKING WAS APPROVED AND PERMITTED PRIOR TO THESE STANDARDS BEING ESTABLISHED BY THE ADOPTION OF THE GDC AND ARE CONSIDERED CONSIDERED LEGAL NONCONFORMING. HERE WE HAVE THE CONCEPT PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TEN EVERGREEN SHRUBS WITHIN THE PLANTERS LOCATED BETWEEN THE FRONT BUILDING FACADE AND THE FRONT PARKING ROW, AS WELL AS FIVE EVERGREEN SHRUBS AND TWO ORNAMENTAL TREES ALONG THE LANDSCAPE AREA ADJACENT TO SATURN ROAD. WHILE THE CONCEPT PLAN IS LIMITED TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW PICTURE TO THE RIGHT, WE CAN SEE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, INCLUDING THE EXISTING ADJACENT ROW OF PARKING ALSO USED BY THE BUSINESSES CLIENTS. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AN SUP FOR A PERSONAL SERVICE USE WITH A 15 YEAR TIME PERIOD, WHILE THE GUIDE RECOMMENDS A TIME PERIOD BETWEEN 5 TO 8 YEARS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE SUP REQUEST WITH A TIME PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS, AS THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE. AND IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES, ALONG WITH THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS AND THE REMOVAL OF THE DILAPIDATED CHAIN LINK FENCE OR CHAIN LINK GATE, WHICH WILL IMPROVE THE STREETSCAPE ALONG SATURN ROAD. WE SENT OUT A TOTAL OF 77 NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER DALTON, THANK YOU. IS THIS THE ORIGINAL APPLICANT FROM 15 YEARS AGO? SAME PERSON? YES, IT'S THE SAME PERSON. THIS IS A RENEWAL BASICALLY OF THE SGP. WE GAVE THEM BACK. RIGHT. THE ONLY REASON WE DIDN'T CALL IT A RENEWAL IS BECAUSE THE SCP DID ACTUALLY EXPIRE. IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THAT THAT PERSON DEDICATED A LOT OF TIME VISITING WITH NEIGHBORS AND DISCUSSING WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON DOING THERE. AND WE I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THE HARD WORK THAT SHE PUT INTO MAKING SURE SHE GOT APPROVED. IT. IS THERE A REASON WE WANT TO LIMIT THIS SUP DOWN TO FIVE YEARS? AND IN DEFERENCE TO GIVING HER MAYBE SOME MORE. SO THE GUIDE THAT WE USE STATES 5 TO 8 YEARS FOR WHENEVER THERE'S NO MAJOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE BUSINESS IS JUST GOING INTO AN EXISTING SWEET. AND SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT WE WERE BASING IT OFF OF. BUT OF COURSE, YOU GUYS CAN MAKE YOUR OWN DELIBERATION. AND ADDITIONALLY, THIS IS IN THE WEDGE. THIS IS IN ONE OF THE ECONOMIC FOCUS AREAS. SO REINVESTMENTS MAY HAPPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL IN GRANTING TWO LONGER STOPS WHERE THAT CAN HAPPEN.RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND COMMISSIONER LUCIDO.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I ENJOYED THE HUMOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS IT RELATES TO THE AMOUNT OF DEVIATIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY GRANTED. AND NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL ARE HAVING TO UNWIND SOME OF THAT BY PUTTING, PUTTING OR PROPOSING CONDITIONS ON TOP OF IT. MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU WENT BACK TO SQUARE JUST BASE, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS THAT YOU'VE PUT FORTH ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION? AND IF THE QUESTION DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, I CAN TRY TO REVISE IT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING? YEAH. SO THE REPORT SAYS, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DEVIATIONS FROM THE STANDARDS, IN ADDITION TO THOSE NOW REQUESTED, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE APPROPRIATE MITIGATION NECESSARY TO FIX THOSE PROBLEMS. AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ASKING TO MAKE ADDITIONAL DEVIATIONS TO FIX PROBLEMS THAT PREVIOUS DEVIATIONS CAUSED. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE JUST MAKE THIS SIMPLER AS OPPOSED TO MORE COMPLEX. YEAH.
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SO I MEAN, AS WE ADOPTED THE GDC, THEY BECAME LEGAL NONCONFORMING, RIGHT? AND SO I GUESS IT'S NOT THAT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ALLOWED AS FAR AS WELL. I MEAN, THE ADJACENT PARKING WOULD HAVE HAD JUST GONE THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN NOWADAYS AS OPPOSED TO BEFORE. AND SO THEN WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY PROPOSED, THEY WOULD BE COMING CLOSER TO THIS CURRENT COMPLIANCE, AT LEAST WITH OUR LANDSCAPING STANDARDS. AND THEN BECAUSE THE PARKING IS ALREADY LEGAL, EVEN IF IT'S NOT NON-CONFORMING, WE WE CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY FROM THEM. SO WE JUST TRY TO IMPROVE THE AREAS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO. GOTCHA.OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LUCIDO. MR. SORRY. I ALSO WANTED TO ASK, IS THE RETAIL BUSINESS IN THIS BUILDING ALSO COVERED UNDER THAT REQUEST? THIS IS GOING TO BE STRICTLY FOR THE PERSONAL USE. IF SERVICE USE, WHICH IS THE BARBERSHOP AND HAIR SALON.
AND AND AS FAR AS MY OWN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY HAVE STATED THAT THERE IS NO OTHER BUSINES ON SITE. HOWEVER. I MEAN, THAT'S AS FAR AS MY INVESTIGATION CAN GO. IF THEY'RE SELLING ITEMS WITHIN THERE, THAT'S TYPICALLY AN ACCESSORY TO THE MAIN USE DEPENDING UPON THE LEVEL, CORRECT? YES. THERE ISN'T A CODE COMPLIANCE SITUATION WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITE. CODE IS AWARE OF THAT. THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A BEARING ON THIS CASE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER JENKINS I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. YOU SAID THERE IS A COMPLIANCE ISSUE CURRENTLY WITH IT, AND THE COMPLIANCE ISSUE RELATES TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE ON THE SITE. ON THE BUILDING ITSELF. SO THE CODE COMPLIANCE IS INVOLVED BECAUSE THERE IS A LAND USE THAT IS IN EFFECT CAUSING A NUISANCE TO TO THE AREA, NOT THE PARTICULAR LAND USE THAT'S IN QUESTION TONIGHT. THERE IS SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THIS LAND USE THAT HAS BEEN OPERATING FROM THAT BUILDING. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IF THAT WITH THAT SAID. ALL RIGHTY.
I HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE. IS THE APPLICANT HERE. DO THEY WISH TO ADD ANYTHING? PARDON? THE APPLICANT IS HERE. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD AND SAY ANYTHING OR COME ON DOWN. I JUST WONDER WELL YEAH. I NEED YOU TO BE BY THE MICROPHONE. IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JESSICA. I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THAT PLACE FOR AROUND 15 YEARS IN THAT PLACE. AND I WAS WONDERING JUST TO HAVE A RENEW MY PERMIT BECAUSE ALSO I'M WORKING ALREADY WITH THE BUILDING COMMISSION TO DO AND IMPROVE THE BUILDING. LOOK AT MY BUILDING BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO HAVE A NICE PLACE WHERE I WORK AND I HAVE MY THING WHATEVER WITH ME. SO I JUST WANT TO HAVE A BETTER OFFICE AND BETTER LOOK FOR MY CITY BECAUSE I LIVE AROUND THERE TOO. SO I BEEN THERE MOSTLY MY TIME.
I'M THERE ALL DAY, ALL WEEK. SO I JUST WANT TO BE BE AVAILABLE TO KEEP WORKING AND DO SOMETHING BETTER FOR MY CITY AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE IT'S WHERE I LIVE AND HOW I FEED MY FAMILY. SO THANK YOU. I DO NEED YOUR LAST NAME TOO. I'M SORRY. I GOT YOUR FIRST NAME.
JESSICA. JESSICA. AND AN ADDRESS. YEAH. JESSICA. JAMES MARTINEZ, 2100 SOUTH ROAD, GARLAND, TEXAS, 75041. THANK YOU. GOT TO HAVE IT FOR THE RECORDS. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? I SEE NE, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? NO AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ABEL. THERE YOU GO. I HAVE MORE DISCUSSION FOR US AND STAFF. SO THE AREA IN THE FRONT WHERE WE'RE SAYING TWO TREES, IF YOU PULL UP THE AERIAL, YOU'LL SEE THEY'RE PUTTING TWO ORNAMENTAL TREES AND SOME SHRUBS THERE. THAT AREA IS CURRENTLY LOOKS PRETTY PARCHED. EVERY TIME I
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DRIVE BY IT IS THERE WATERING SYSTEM THERE, OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO CARRY OUT FIVE GALLON WATERS? THAT'S THE SAME QUESTION. THEY WOULD EITHER HAVE TO PUT IN WATERING SYSTEM OR GET AN APPROVED ALTERNATE SYSTEM TO MAINTAIN THE PLANTS AND WATERING. SOMETIMES STAFF HAS ALLOWED MANUAL WATERING. I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. AND THAT CAN BE THE CASE IF DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PLANT, IF THEY'RE PLANNING SOMETHING THAT IS DROUGHT RESISTANT, THEN THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. I KNOW SHE'S HERE, SO I WOULD SUGGEST DROUGHT RESISTANT BECAUSE THAT LITTLE AREA IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WATER TO KEEP ANYTHING ALIVE RIGHTHERE. SO ESPECIALLY NOW. YES, THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE.THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR MOTION? OKAY. I CAN'T MAKE MOTIONS OR ANYTHING SO. COMMISSIONER LUCIDO THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD JUST SAY I THINK I AGREE WITH STAFF'S PROPOSAL OF JUST A FIVE YEAR. SEE IF WE DO VOTE ON THAT. I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN DISTRICT FIVE AND THAT BEING A KEY REVITALIZATION AREA, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A SHORTER TERM AND OPTIONS OPEN AFTER FIVE YEARS. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ABEL WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WAS ONLY CHIMING IN TO SAY THAT I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF OF THE COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER. ZITO'S FIVE YEAR POSITION. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ABEL, LET'S MAKE SURE YOU GOT YOUR MIC HERE. THERE WE GO. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE AS RECOMMENDED WITH A FIVE YEAR'S U P. WITH THE TEN EVERGREEN SHRUBS ALONG THE STREET, THE FIVE EVERGREEN SHRUBS AND TWO ORNAMENTAL TREES IN THE STREETSCAPE AND REMOVING THE GATE THAT IS PICTURED, THE CHAIN LINK GATE THAT IS PICTURED FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. RIGHT. YES. QUESTION FOR THE MAKER. DOES THAT INCLUDE THE CONSIDERATIONS MADE BY THE PROPOSALS MADE BY STAFF? YES. YEAH, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH WORD FOR WORD EXCEPT ONE CORRECTION. THE SHRUBS ARE NOT ALONG THE STREET ALONG THE STREET FACING SIDE. ALONG THE FRONT. YEAH. ALRIGHTY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE MOTION. AND AGAIN YOU CAN. MAKE A SECOND. THERE YOU GO. WE HAVE EXCUSE ME, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ABEL AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCIDA TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE SUP FOROR A FIV YEAR TIME PERIOD. AND WITH THE SHRUBS ALONG THE FRONT FACE OF THE BUILDING AND THE TREES IN THE LANDSCAPE AREA, ALL PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR LAST PUBLIC
[c. Z 26-23 Masterplan Consultants (District 8)]
HEARING ITEM IS ITEM TWO. C HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF MASTER PLAN CONSULTANTS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT FOR A CAR WASH AUTOMATED ROLLOVER USE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1355 BELTLINE ROAD. COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS EMMA. I'M THE PLANNING ADMINISTRATOR. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT FOR A CAR WASH, AUTOMATED ROLLOVER USE. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SITE. IT'S ADDRESSED AS 1355 BELTLINE ROAD AND THE APPLICANT IS MASTER PLAN CONSULTANTS. THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 0.75 ACRES IN SIZE. THE LOCATION MAP SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE SITE.COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS AREA IDENTIFIES IT AS COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS. COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS PROVIDE AREAS FOR MODERATE INCREASES IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, INCLUDING SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHEDOUSING. IT EXPANDS HOUSING OPTIONS THROUGH AN INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT WHILE CONTINUING WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
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THESE AREAS PROVIDE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.THESE AREAS ACCOMMODATE USES SUCH AS CONVENIENCE, RETAIL GOODS AND SERVICES, OFFICE SPACE AND PUBLIC SERVICES. THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER AND SCALE OF THESE AREAS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. OUR NEWLY ADOPTED GARLAND STRATEGIC PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS THE BELTLINE ECONOMIC FOCUS AREA, AND THIS IS A NODE THAT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPOSITION THE AREA TO MOVE AWAY FROM AUTO ORIENTED AREAS, SINGLE PURPOSE USES, AND SHIFT TOWARDS MORE MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL AND BASICALLY AREAS THAT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO KIND OF ACTIVATE THIS CORNER. SO CURRENTLY THE THERE IS AN EXISTING CAR WASH ON SITE, AND IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1986 WHEN THE GDC DID ALLOW FOR CAR WASHES TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITHOUT HAVING TO GET AN SUP. SINCE THE 2015 ADOPTION OF THE GDC, THIS USE DOES REQUIRE AN SUP BEFORE IT IS PERMITTED, SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR THE USE TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITHOUT AN SUP, SO THE PD WOULD JUST BE PERMITTED WITHOUT A LIMITED TIME FRAME, IT WOULD JUST BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, WHICH IS NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE GDC WITHOUT A C P. RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE TO IMPROVE THE SITE. THERE WERE NONE MADE, NO LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS MADE, AND THERE WERE ALSO NO ARCHITECTURAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO THE BUILDING. THESE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE. IT DOES SHOW THE CHANGES IN THE PERMITS THAT WERE PULLED. THAT SHOWS THE INCREASE IN CAPACITY FOR TO BASICALLY TAKE MORE CARS AND MAKE IT EVEN MORE AUTO ORIENTED, AND REMOVED WHAT LITTLE LANDSCAPING OR PERVIOUS SURFACE THAT WAS ON SITE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT IT CAN HOLD. THESE ARE SOME MORE PHOTOS OF THE SITE. AND THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. IT SHOWS THE CURRENT LAYOUT OF THE SITE, THE ACCESS POINTS, AND THE CANOPIES THAT WERE RECENTLY INSTALLED.
STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE REQUEST BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE CITY'S NEWLY ADOPTED GARLAND STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THERE ARE NO NEW, IMPROVED NEW IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED FOR THIS SITE AS IT RELATES TO THIS PD REQUEST.
STAFF SENT OUT 90 LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED ONE IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST. I'M AVAILABLE AND THE STAFF IS ALSO AVAILABLE. BEFORE WE GET INTO TOO MANY QUESTIONS, IT'S A CAR WASH USE AND IT IS A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE SO IT CAN CONTINUE THE WAY IT IS WITH THAT, EVEN WITHOUT THIS CHANGE BEING DONE. CORRECT? YES. EVEN IF THIS REQUEST GETS DENIED, THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL NON-CONFORMING. WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS FOR IT TO BECOME LEGAL CONFORMING. SO IT'S GOING TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY WERE TO STOP OPERATING FOR 180 DAYS OR MORE AND THEY WOULD LOSE THAT LEGAL NON-CONFORMING STATUS, BUT FOR WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, IT WOULD BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITHOUT AN S P INDEFINITELY. SO IT'S A DOING AWAY WITH ANY SUP OR. ANYTHING.
NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. ALRIGHTY. MR. DALLAS CONFIRM.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. DALLAS CATHERINE 1431 WEST MOCKINGBIRD, DALLAS, TEXAS. SO MY CLIENT OWNS THE PROPERTY. THIS THIS IS LIKE AT THE SAME TIME, PRETTY SIMPLE AND SUPER CONFUSING. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO WE, WE BOUGHT THIS SITE AND MAYBE LET'S LET, I'LL PRETEND THIS IS SORT OF A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CASE IN TERMS OF. THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES HERE. SO WE'RE ON THREE STREETS, TWO OF WHICH ARE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. THERE'S A TAKING FROM THE CITY, VERY AGREEABLE BY ALL THE PARTIES. AND THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'VE LIVED WITH IS WHAT WE WORKED WITH THE CITY ON. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ALL THAT AND THAT AVOIDED A CONDEMNATION AND ALL THESE PROBLEMS. SO WE BOUGHT A SITE THAT HAD HAD ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS. WE'RE AWARE OF THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT CONFORMING, FOLLOW THE RULES. I
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MEAN, I'VE DONE THIS MORE THAN 30 YEARS. IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT PEOPLE WITH NON-CONFORMING PROPERTIES ARE USUALLY NOT GREAT OPERATORS. YOU KNOW, THINK OF NIGHTCLUBS.I MEAN, YOU CAN PROBABLY THINK OF A LOT OF TYPE OF USES WHERE THEY'RE NON-CONFORMING. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY. IT'S MAYBE NOT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO INVEST IN THEIR PROPERTY. WE'VE DONE THAT, THOUGH. WE'VE ALREADY SPENT MORE THAN $600,000 ON IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACILITY AND ABOUT TRIPLE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. AND HAVE YOU BEEN THROUGH THE CAR WASH? IT'S I MEAN, THE UPGRADE ON THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE EQUIPMENT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SO WE'VE MADE A MUCH DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE. SO LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES HERE. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE EXISTING BUILDING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES. THIS SITE AT 0.78 ACRES. IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR US TO DO LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF RETAIL CLIENTS, YOU KNOW, AUTO PARTS, FAST FOOD AT 8.7 ACRES. THERE ARE ONLY CLIENTS THAT WE COULD GET ON HERE ARE LIKE SCOOTER'S COFFEE OR A STARBUCKS. AND I'M NOT SURE I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE RIGHT CORNER, LIKE, BUT BUT MY COLLEAGUE THINKS MAYBE IT IS SO LIKE, THIS IS NOT A SUPER INDEPENDENTLY DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY THAT IS GOING TO FIT INTO ANY KIND OF WALKABLE, MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT. I'M ALL FOR THIS AREA CHANGING. WE'RE THE FIRST PEOPLE TO PUT REAL MONEY INTO IT IN A WHILE. WE BELIEVE IN THAT. BUT 46% OF AMERICANS THAT SHOW UP AT CAR WASHES DRIVE DIRECTLY FROM THEIR HOME, AND THEY DON'T DRIVE A LONG WAY TO DO THAT. THE NUMBERS SAY THAT PEOPLE USE NEIGHBORHOOD CAR WASHES PRIMARILY. THEY MAY GET A WASH WHEN THEY'RE AT WORK, BUT TYPICALLY PEOPLE DO THAT AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THERE'S SOMEHOW A HOLE IN THE AREA WHERE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CAR WASHES. SO THIS IS THE LAYOUT PROBABLY MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN BY THERE. THIS IS WHAT WE AGREED TO WITH THOSE TAKINGS. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BUILT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. SO THERE WAS A 20 FOOT THE YELLOW SHOWS THE 20 FOOT WIDENING ON NORTH GARLAND AND THEN ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, LARGE DEDICATION ON ON BELTLINE. SO YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SIGNIFICANT DEDICATIONS WE'VE MADE THAT HAVE SHRUNK THE SITE. SO STAFF'S POSITION THAT WE DIDN'T MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS. THEY SUGGESTED WE'D NEED A LAND STRUCTURE TO DO THAT. WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ALL THESE, WE GOT THREE FRONT YARDS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NON-CONFORMING. WE'D HAVE TO START OVER AND NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE CAR WASH. SO THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S SORT OF BUT WE DID MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THE CODE THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, THIS SITE'S NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO FOLLOW ALL THE NEW RULES. AND MY POSITION IS, IS THAT WE'VE BEEN A CAR WASH SINCE 1986. THE RULES SWITCHED IN THE GAME, YOU KNOW, SO WHY DON'T WE WANT TO DO AN SUPSUPS ARE TYPICALLY GIVEN TO PROVE THAT OVER TIME, YOU'RE NOT KIND OF MENACE. I WOULD ARGUE THAT 1986 TO 2026 IS A PRETTY LONG RUN. WE WE KNOW THERE ARE CAR WASH. MORE THAN ONE OPERATOR HAS DONE IT. IT HASN'T BEEN SOME. WE DON'T HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS. THERE ARE NOT PROBLEMS. 86 A LONG TIME AGO I W IN HIGH SCHOOL. THEN.
I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT FAR BACK. HARDLY. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A CAR WASH, SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED AN SUP TO PROVE UP THAT THIS IS A REASONABLE USE IN AN AUTO ORIENTED AREA.F THIS AREA CHANGES, THEN THIS IS NOT SUCH AN ELABORATE STRUCTURE THAT IT COULDN'T BE INCLUDED INTO SOME OTHER USE. I THINK THAT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY BECAUSE WE DON'T CONNECT ANYONE WITHOUT ELIMINATING A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WON'T HAPPEN. THIS IS WHAT IT IS. IT'S 0.78 ACRES. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ON IT. OKAY, SO AGAIN, HERE'S ALL THE CR, THE RED OR ORANGE, WHATEVER COLOR, YOU KNOW, LET ME SPEED AHEAD A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, SO MY CLIENT IS VERY ACTIVE IN THIS MARKET. YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE JUST AS YOU'RE COMING IN UP NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, MAYBE YOU'VE STOPPED THAT ONE TOO. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. IN FACT, YOU KNOW, THIS THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, GIVE FREE WASHES FOR CARS, FOR TEACHERS, LOTS OF COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS FOR PEOPLE. SO THEY ARE INVOLVED AND ARE HAPPY TO BE IN THIS ONE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW A NUMBER OF TEACHERS THAT, THAT I SENT THIS TO THAT THEY LIKE THE FREE CAR WASHES. THEY DO FUNDRAISERS
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WITH NOT FOR PROFIT GROUPS, SCHOOL BANDS, TEAMS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS AND WILL ON THIS ONE. SO IF YOU LOOK THE IF YOU I MEAN, I TEND TO THINK OF CAR WASHES A LITTLE LIKE MY SELF-STORAGE USERS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE 4 OR 5 IN THE SAME AREA.IF YOU LOOK HERE, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER ONE TWO MILES AROUND. SO. AND, AND IF THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, THEIR HOUSES AROUND HERE, APARTMENTS, ETC HAVING A CAR WASH HERE SEEMS TO FIT. AND IT IS ON TWO THOROUGHFARES AND A THIRD STREET. SO IT'S A PRETTY AUTOMOBILE SITE. IT'S BEEN HERE FOR 40 YEARS. OKAY, SO WE COULDN'T FIND A SATELLITE PICTURE BEFORE 95, BUT I APPRECIATE STAFF STIPULATING THAT IT STARTED IN 86. BUT IF YOU LOOK I MEAN, IT'S LARGELY THE SAME, THOUGH WE HAVE MADE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE WE GOT RID OF THAT CANOPY. AND LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE BEFORE. HERE'S KIND OF BEFORE. THESE ARE BEFORE I WE'LL GET TO THAT AND, AND AFTERS, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE AT THE BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FACADE, MUCH MORE PROFESSIONALIZED.
REALLY NICE LOOK, I CAN'T REALLY DEMONSTRATE THE AFTER ON THE CAR, BUT TAKERS IN THERE AND IT'S IT'S MUCH IT'S MUCH BETTER. SO YOU KNOW, WE WE DID NOT HAVE TO MAKE ANY OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS. AND IN FACT, WE TALKED, I TALKED TO MY CLIENT AT LENGTH ABOUT, LET'S SEE HOW THE ZONING CASE GOES BEFORE WE DECIDE TO SPEND $600,000 ON THE SITE. AND THEY'RE LIKE, NO, WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE. WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE WE EVEN OPEN. AND THAT'S, IN FACT, WHAT WE DID. EVERY ONE OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS WAS DONE BEFORE WE OPENED TO DEMONSTRATE. WE REALLY WANT TO BE HERE. WE WANT TO LOOK AS GOOD AS WE CAN. AND THERE ARE SITE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE CAN'T SOLVE THAT WE ARE NOT WE DIDN'T CREATE. THEY'RE NOT A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP WAS A CAR WASH. IT'S A BETTER CAR WASH NOW. AND AS SUCH, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A CONFORMING USE. IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN O ON MY HOME. I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE A NON-CONFORMING PROBLEM ON MY HOUSE. WE GOT A NEW OWNER, WE HAVE NEW LENDERS. WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A CONFORMING PIECE OF PROPERTY. THE CITY STILL HAS THE SITE PLAN AS ITS PROOF THAT WE HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS. WE YOU KNOW THAT WE CAN'T LET IT DETERIORATE. SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I KNOW THERE WAS APPARENTLY A STAFF BROUGHT UP THAT THERE WAS AN AREA THAT NOW HAS BEEN PAVED THAT WAS PART OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. SO LIKE A LOT OF THESE ARE THINGS THAT WERE WORKED ON WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE VERY HAPPILY, THE PREVIOUS OWNER, AND WE ENDED UP WITH A GOOD RESULT. I THINK WE JUST HAVE A NON-CONFORMING PIECE OF PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, I IF PEOPLE HAVE TRAFFIC QUESTIONS, I HAD THAT ON THERE. BUT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, HERE'S ANOTHER THING. WASHING AT HOME IS NOT WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO WASH CARS. THERE'S A TREMENDOUS SAVINGS OF WATER BY DOING IT AT A CAR WASH WHERE WE RECYCLE THE WATER. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES USE. I MEAN, I WISH I HAD ONE CLOSER TO TO MY HOME. SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU LOOK IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT, THIS IS BEFORE OURS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FROM 2016 TO 2026. THIS IS ACTUALLY GONE UP IN, IN APPRAISED VALUE. WE SEARCHED A BUNCH OF OTHER ONES IN THIS AREA. THAT'S NOT THE CASE. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A HUGE NUMBER, BUT THIS IS A MUCH LARGER NUMBER. IF WE TORE THIS DOWN AND YOU TRIED TO PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT YOU COULD FIT ON THE SITE, IT WOULD BE MUCH L LESSHAN $1 MILLION OF TAXABLE VALUE, NOT INCLUDING THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE UPGRADED. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T STAFF IS STAFF IS RIGHT THAT WE DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY ASKED US TO DO, BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO. AND IF THEY CAME UP WITH SOME OTHER AREAS, WE COULD MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
WE WOULD. WE DID MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S JUST TO PASSERSBY. THIS IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SORT OF PLANNING. PLANNING IS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE VERSUS ZONING.
ZONING IS WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. AND FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A CONFORMING PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE LIKE THIS MARKET. WE'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE OTHER CAR WASHES HERE AND WE'RE OFF TO A GOOD START THIS SITE. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I KNOW THIS IS THIS IS A LOT OF INSIDE BASEBALL AND MAY SEEM LIKE A SMALL MATTER, BUT FOR BUSINESSES, BEING NONCONFORMING IS HIGHLY UNDESIRABLE. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE THAT. WE WANT TO BE A LEGAL CONFORMING BUSINESS WITH A SITE PLAN. THAT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN IF WE DID AN SUP, YOU'D HAVE A SITE PLAN. SO WITH THE PD YOU'D HAVE THIS SITE PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE'D WE'D LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT WE'RE SPENDING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CREATED JOBS. WE'VE SPENT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, LIKE ALMOST AS MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT ON IT AS WHAT IT T WS APPRAISED FOR. SO, YOU KNOW,
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FOR A 1986 CAR WASH. SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A WEIRD ZONING CASE, BUT WE JUST WANT TO WE WANT TO FIT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION. ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE. ANYBODY, ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. DISCUSSION.MOTION. COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH JUST SAID, LET ME GET YOU LIVE THERE. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS, BUT UNDER THE GARLAND ON THE RISE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR ALL OVER OUR CITY, FOR THE FUTURE, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD WITH A BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT FOR A CAR WASH, AUTOMATED ROLLOVER USE. YOUR MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCIDO TO DENY THE REQUEST. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER DALTON. YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO TRY TO SECOND IT TOO LATE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THE MOTION IS TO DENY. ALL RIGHT. PREPARE TO VOTE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES, 7 TO 1 WITH COMMISSIONER HILLIARD AND ABSTENTION, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY A NO VOTE ACCORDING TO OUR RULES. ALL RIGHTY. THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. IT IS NOW 712. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF AUGUST 24TH, WE ARE
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