* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] GOOD EVENING GARLAND, AND WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 3RD, 2026 WORK SESSION OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ON WORK SESSION ITEMS. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? YES, SIR. UNDER ITEM FOUR. ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER, ERIC STUYVESANT. YOU READY? GET THAT LAST NAME RIGHT. , WHERE DO YOU WANT? WHEREVER YOU WOULDD, LIKE SIR, TWO MEN AT A DESK IN THE CITY OF GARLAND ROOM TEXT WORK SESSION. AUGUST 3RD, 2026. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF. UH, MY NAME IS ERIC STU AND I LIVE AT 1212 WEST AVENUE E HERE IN GARLAND, TEXAS. FIRST I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE CITY ON SECURING THE FILM FRIENDLY TEXAS DESIGNATION LATE LAST MONTH. COMPLETING THE TRIFECTA ALONGSIDE OUR MUSIC AND TOURISM FRIENDLY CERTIFICATIONS IS A HUGE MILESTONE ON BEHALF OF THE LOCAL CREATIVE COMMUNITY, THANK YOU TO STAFF AND COUNCIL FOR LAYING THAT FOUNDATIONAL GROUNDWORK. BEARDED MAN SITS A TABLE. CERTIFICATION GIVES US A KEY TO THE DOOR, HOW THE REAL WORK BEGINS, WALKING THROUGH IT AND PUTTING AIR IN THE SALES OF CARLIN'S FILM ECONOMY, INDEPENDENT NARRATIVE PROJECTS, STUDIO PROJECTS, COMMERCIAL F AND DIGITAL MEDIA BRING IMMEDIATE HIGH IMPACT DOLLARS TO OUR CITY. THEY BUY CATERING FROM LOCAL RESTAURANTS, RENT GEAR, BOOK, HOTEL ROOMS, AND HIRE LOCAL TALENT. BEYOND THAT, EVERY PROJECT SHOW HERE SHOWCASES, GARLAND'S, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, THE BUILDINGS IN THE RENOVATED DOWNTOWN AREA TO OUTSIDE AUDIENCES, BUT FILMMAKERS, WHETHER THEY'RE LOCAL OR COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN, LOOK FOR PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE ENVIRONMENTS. THEY NEED CLEAR ANSWERS ON PERMITTING, UH, ROAD CLOSURES, POLICE DETAILS, AND LOCATION ACCESS. THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION GIVES US THE FRAMEWORK, BUT LOCAL EXECUTION IS WHAT CLOSES THE DEALS. THAT'S WHERE WE HOPE GARLAND FILM COLLECTIVE COMES IN. WE WANNA OFFER OURSELVES AS A READY, WORKING PARTNER FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. THINK OF US AS A LOCAL LIAISON AND OPERATIONAL ENGINE. WE'RE ALREADY EMBEDDED IN THE INDUSTRY WORKING WITH CREW, VENDORS AND LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS EVERY DAY. WE CAN HELP THE CITY BUILD AND MAINTAIN A RICH LOCAL LOCATION AND VENDOR DIRECTORY TO SUBMIT DIRECTLY TO THE STATE REGISTRY. AND PRODUCERS PROVIDE PRACTICAL ADVICE ON STREAMLINING PERMITTING SO THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AREN'T BURDENED WITH ADMINISTRATIVE GUESSWORK. SERVE AS A POINT OF CONTACT FOR INCOMING PRODUCTIONS, HELPING THEM NAVIGATE LOCAL LOGISTICS QUICKLY. SO GARLAND BECOMES KNOWN AS THE EASIEST MO MOST WELCOMING PLACE TO SHOOT NORTH TEXAS. AS A QUICK NOTE, MACK BETA, WHO WAS, UH, THE STAR OF OUR SHORT FILM, THE AUDIT, SAID THAT HE HAD NEVER BEEN TREATED SO WELL ON AN INDEPENDENT PRODUCTION. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT GARLAND TO REPRESENT ACROSS THE BOARD. GARLAND SHOULDN'T BE JUST FILM FRIENDLY ON PAPER. WE HAVE THE TALENT, THE LOCATIONS, AND THE MOMENTUM TO BE THE INDEPENDENT STORY TELLING HUB OF THE METROPLEX. THE GARLAND FILM COLLECTIVE IS READY TO STAND ALONGSIDE THE CITY, ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES, AND MAKE SURE THIS INITIATIVE HAS THE WIND AND STRUCTURE IT NEEDS TO THRIVE. LET'S BUILD THIS TOGETHER. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. ONE SECOND. WE DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. DON'T RUN AWAY YET. COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS WHOLE PROJECT TO GARLAND AND THE AUDIT TO GARLAND. UM, I KNOW YOU FILMED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO IN DOWNTOWN, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. UM, WHAT ROADBLOCKS DID YOU FACE AT ALL WITH, UM, YOUR, YOUR PRODUCTION? AND THEN DID THE DESIGNATION HELP IN ANY WAY? THE DESIGNATION HELPS GREATLY. UH, WE'LL START WITH THERE. AND I, THE ROADBLOCKS WEREN'T SOMETHING THAT WE COULDN'T OVERCOME QUICKLY. IT WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO TO TALK TO, UH, WHAT PERMIT WE NEEDED TO GET. AND, UH, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A CHECKLIST TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING AND WHAT WE WANNA DO IS, RATHER THAN IN, UH, INUNDATING, UH, CULTURAL ARTS WITH THAT PROCESS, WE, WE NOW KNOW THE FRAMEWORK. SO WHEN AS WE REACH OUT TO PRODUCTION COMPANIES AND THEY'RE TELLING US WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, WE CAN GO RIGHT THROUGH IT WITH 'EM AND SAY, OKAY, IF, IF YOU HAVE THIS, YOU'LL NEED THIS. YOU DON'T HAVE THIS, WE'LL NEED TO, UH, MOVE TO THE OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT. AND WILL YOU, UM, TELL ME AGAIN THE NAME OF YOUR ORGANIZATION? THE FILMING ORGANIZATION THAT YOU IS? THE GARLAND FILM COLLECTIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TEXT DYLAN HEDRICK. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MADAM SECRETARY. [00:05:01] DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? NO, SIR. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO A VERBAL BRIEFINGS. THE FIRST VERBAL BRIEFING WE HAVE IS DISCUSSION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 27 ANNUAL OR PROPOSED ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET. MAYOR HEAD REPLACES PAPERS DOWN AND LOOKS FORWARD WITH A SLIGHT SMILE. THE OTHER MAN AT THE TABLE ALSO LOOKS FORWARD. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE THREE SEPARATE PRESENTATIONS TODAY FOR THAT. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. UH, AT LAST TUESDAY NIGHT, SPECIAL SPECIAL SESSION, WE REACHED THE COUNCIL ON OUR CERTIFIED TAX BASE AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED TAX RATE. AS A RESULT OF THOSE CHANGES IN THE CERTIFIED TAX RATE OR CERTIFIED TAX BASE, WE WILL HAVE CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THESE CHANGES WILL BE AMENDED TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET WHEN WE ADOPT THE BUDGET ON AUGUST 17TH. IN THE GEN GENERAL FUND, NO BUDGET, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $974,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN THE YES BUDGET. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL $1,037,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE. WE HAVE NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO APPROPRIATE EXPENDITURES. THE PROPOSAL IS TO TRANSFER THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO AVAILABLE RESERVES CONSIDERING, UH, ALLOCATING THESE FUNDS TO THE GARLAND ON THE RISE STRATEGIC PLAN AND OFFSETTING POTENTIAL DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS FROM THE TAX REELECTION UNCERTAINTY, FUTURE LEGISLATIVE CONSTRAINTS, POTENTIAL ECONOMIC DOWNTURNS, AS WELL AS RECORD HIGH DISPUTED APPRAISAL VALUES. THE SLIDE SHOWS A GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL TABLE ON PAGE THREE, BOTTOM LINE, TOTAL RESERVES IN THE NO BUDGET WILL INCREASE FROM 16.6 MILLION TO 17.6 MILLION FOR A TOTAL FUND BALANCE OF 365, 36 0.5 MILLION TO 37.5 MILLION. AND THE S BUDGET TOTAL AVAILABLE RESERVES WILL INCREASE FROM 19.1 MILLION TO 20.1 MILLION FOR A TOTAL FUND BALANCE OF 39.7 MILLION TO 40.7 MILLION. OUR TIF FUNDS ALSO BENEFITED FROM THIS HIGHER THAN, UH, EXPECTED CERTIFIED TAX BASE AND TIF ONE WE'RE PROJECTING TO SEE 72,000 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AND TIF TWO 52,000 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, AND IN TIF THREE $540,000. WE HAVE NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO APPROPRIATE EXPENDITURES. TIF PROJECT PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED PREVIOUSLY AND THE FY 26 27 PROPOSED BUDGET HAS NO PROPOSED CHANGES FROM THOSE PLANS. AS OPPORTUNITIES ARISE, A BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO APPROPRIATE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WITH APPROVAL BY THE RESPECTIVE TIF BOARDS AND CITY COUNCIL FOR REDEVELOPMENT OR PROJECT OPPORTUNITIES. IN TIF, ONE TOTAL FUND BALANCE IS PROJECTED TO GO UP FROM 500,000 TO 600,000. AND TIF TWO WITH ROUNDING IS PROJECTED TO STAY AT ABOUT 2.4 MILLION. AND TIF THREE TOTAL FUND BALANCE RESERVES ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE FROM 11.3 MILLION TO 11.8 MILLION. CITY COUNCIL CALENDAR TABLE WITH COLUMNS. PAGE SIX, UH, REMAINING, UH, CALENDAR DATES FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS. TOMORROW NIGHT, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND TAX RATE. AUGUST 11TH, A SPECIAL SESSION, UH, ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE, AS WELL AS COUNCIL DISCUSSION. AND ON AUGUST 17TH, WE'LL HAVE A DOUBLE SESSION BACK TO BACK WORK, REGULAR SESSION. COUNSEL WILL GIVE FINAL DIRECTION ON THE BUDGET. WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND TAX RATE. WE WILL ADOPT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND TAX RATE WITH ANY OF THOSE, WITH THOSE, UM, APPROVED CHANGES WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. UH, WE'LL CALL FOR THE TAX REELECTION, WE'LL ADOPT THE RATE AND FEE ORDINANCE, AND WE'LL ALSO ADOPT THE CIVIL SERVICE ORDINANCE. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? TEXT. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS. A WOMAN AND MAN A TABLE. MICHAEL BETS CITY MANAGER AT A CITY EMBO TABLE. THAT'S ALL YOU REACHING? COUNCIL MEMBER TRAN? YES, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAN. THANK YOU ALICE. AND THEN FAHA FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, MAYBE THERE ARE TWO MORE PRESENTATIONS YOU HAVE, RIGHT? SO I'M NOT SURE. LET ME ASK FIRST AND SEE IF YOU CAN RE EVEN FALL INTO ONE OF THOSE. I THINK ON JULY 25TH, I JUST ASKING ABOUT, UM, THE IMPORTANT OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE PARK. UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IT AGAIN, IF THAT CAN BE PUT IN, IN THE BOAT BUDGETS. YES AND NO. UM, AND TO ME IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR RESIDENTS. UM, IT'S IMPORTANT AND ESPECIALLY WE HAVE NEW AMENITIES COMING UP, UM, AND I HEARD THAT THE, THE KIDS AND TEENAGERS, THEY ARE HAVE ACTIVITY LATE IN THOSE, UH, LIKE BREAD, FOREST, UH, ERS, RECREATION CENTERS AND OTHER PLACES. SO, UH, TO ME IT'S JUST, UH, IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT SECURITY REGARDLESS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, YES OR NO. BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC, FROM WHAT I HEAR SO FAR, THEY'RE VERY FAVORABLE ON THE, THE YES S BUT I FEEL IMPORTANT TO, TO REQUEST FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THE WOMAN AND MAN WITH LAPTOPS. ALRIGHT SIR. THANK [00:10:01] YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS PRESENTATION? CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS. ALRIGHT, PLEASE CONTINUE THEN WE WILL INVITE UP, UH, CHRIS FINAGLE, OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR OF LANDFILL AND SANITATION TO HELP US WITH THIS NEXT PART. THE MAN IN THE MIDDLE TYPES ON HIS LAPTOP LOOKS TO HIS RIGHT, SCOOT TO THE SIDE FOR YOU. THE NEWLY ARRIVED MAN ADJUSTS HIS LAPTOP, REMOVES GLASSES TO INSPECT HIM, THEN PUTS THEM ON, HE LOOKS AT THE OTHERS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. CITY MANAGER. I WANNA BEGIN JUST GIVING YOU A COUPLE OF BRIEF POINTS THAT I THINK WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT WILL AFFECT THE RESIDENTS. UM, THE LANDFILL IS TWO THINGS. IT'S A COMMUNITY SERVICE AND CONVENIENCE, BUT IT'S ALSO A BUSINESS. SO EVERYTHING WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT, TONIGHT'S ABOUT THE BUSINESS SIDE. RESIDENTS WHO COME TO THE LANDFILL, WE WILL NOT BE CHARGED AS IN EFFECT OF ANYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. EXCUSE ME. THE SECOND THING I WANNA POINT OUT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR MODEL. UH, CITY MANAGER ALLUDED TO THAT ON YOUR SATURDAY WORK SESSION. AND SO I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS. THE MODEL IS PRETTY SOPHISTICATED. IT WORKS IN TWO WAYS. FIRST WAY IT WORKS IS IT LOOKS AT ECONOMIC FACTORS AND IT DOES STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OF ALL OF THESE FACTORS. THINGS LIKE ALL THE LANDFILLS IN OUR REGION, THEIR DISTANCES TO US, THEIR FEES, HOW EASY OR HARD IT IS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEM FOR THE CUSTOMER IS FACTORED IN. PLUS ECONOMICS ABOUT WHAT IT COSTS TO OPERATE A TRUCK, OWN A TRUCK, THE FUEL, THE LABOR. IT'S REALLY COMPLEX AND VERY SOPHISTICATED IN THAT WAY. THE SECOND PART OF THE MODEL IS EXPERIENTIAL AND BEHAVIORAL. SO IT LOOKS AT OUR HISTORY OF RATE INCREASES OVER TIME, HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE AND WHAT THE REACTION WAS IF WE HAD A TONS LOSS, HOW MUCH WAS IT? SO THAT IT'S TRYING TO PREDICT BEHAVIOR BASED ON THAT. AND BLENDING THOSE TWO APPROACHES IS, IS WHAT IS, IS THE OUTPUT FROM THAT MODEL. AND IT GIVES US BASICALLY, UH, A RISK FACTOR. SO FOR ANY NUMBER OF DOLLARS WE PROPOSE TO INCREASE THE RATE, THE MODEL WILL FACTOR IN ALL THESE COMPLEXITIES. AND THEN SAY THIS IS A LOW RISK RISK OF LOSING TONS AND REVENUE. IT'S A LOW RISK, IT'S A MODERATE RISK, IT'S A HIGH RISK. SO WE USE THAT MODEL TO HONE IN ON WHICH RATE ADJUSTMENTS WE WANNA MAKE JUST THIS REAL BRIEF OVERVIEW OF HOW THAT WORKS. TONS AND REVENUE INCREASE. AND THIS FIRST SLIDE IS SHOWING OUR PERFORMANCE. UM, I'LL POINT OUT THAT WE'VE RAISED OUR RATES EVERY YEAR SINCE 2018 WHEN THIS, UM, DATA SET STARTS EXCEPT FOR ONE YEAR. THAT WAS 2024. SO THE, THE HIGHEST RATE OF INCREASE THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME WAS 14%. REALLY DRAMATIC NUMBER. THAT WAS US IN 2018 MATCHING THE MARKET. SO PRIOR TO THAT, WE WERE PRETTY FAR BELOW THE MARKET AND WE HAD A RELATIVELY HIGH INCREASE TO MEET THE MARKET. SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD AN AVERAGE OF 5% INCREASES EACH YEAR OVER THE TIME. AND THAT STRATEGY IS TO KEEP US AT THE MARKET USING OUR MODEL AND A LITTLE BIT OF OUR INTUITION, BUT MOSTLY THE MODEL, UM, TO, TO PUT US AT THAT, TO PUT US AT THE RATES THAT WE'RE AT TODAY. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN SINCE 2020 IS THAT OUR REVENUE IS OUTPACING OUR TONNAGE BY ABOUT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. UM, YOU COULD SEE THAT IN THIS MODEL, THE GREEN BARS ARE GOING UP DRAMATICALLY. AND THE, THE RED LINE IS OUR TONNAGE. AND IT HAD ONE PERIOD OF TIME AROUND 2021 TO 2023 WHERE IT WAS GROWING RAPIDLY, BUT HAS SINCE SMOOTHED OUT. AND WHAT WE DID IN 2023 IS IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHEN WE INSTITUTED THE C AND D RATE. SO PRIOR TO THAT, WE HAD ONE RATE, NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF TRASH YOU WERE BRINGING, BUT WE KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS IS, IT TAKES UP A LOT MORE SPACE. IT COSTS US MORE TO MANAGE IT AND PROCESS IT. SO WE RAISED OUR RATE FOR CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS IN 2023. IN ORDER TO PROPOSE BUDGET TONS AND REVENUE GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR EACH CUBIC YARD OF AIRSPACE THAT WE GET FOR THE MSW. AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT BECAUSE OUR PERFORMANCE SINCE THEN IS EVEN BETTER. OUR, OUR REVENUES SINCE 2003 ARE OUTPACING OUR TONNAGE GROWTH BY ABOUT 2.7%. IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT IT'S EVIDENCE THAT OUR STRATEGY'S WORKING REVENUE GROWS. TONS SHIFT. ALRIGHT, AND THIS NEXT SLIDE IS SHOWING THAT PERFORMANCE. OKAY, NOW FROM HERE POINT ON, WE'RE JUST TALKING 2023 ON, 'CAUSE IT'S A BIT OF A, IT'S A DIFFERENT DATA SET. BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THAT ON THE RIGHT IN THE ORANGE IS OUR C AND D WASTE STREAM, [00:15:01] AND THERE'S ABOUT A 8% DECLINE IN TONNAGE SINCE 2023. WHILE OUR REVENUES HAVE STAYED CONSTANT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRADING THE VOLUME, WE'RE, ANOTHER WAY TO SAY IT, IS THE INCREMENTAL DOLLARS THAT WE'RE EARNING OFF THE INCREASED FEE IS OFFSETTING OUR LOSS IN VOLUME. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS BULKY, HARD TO MANAGE WASTE. WHILE AT THE SAME TIME THE MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE SIDE IS GROWING RAPIDLY. WE'RE HAVING, WE'RE SEEING ABOUT A 10% INCREASE IN TONS SINCE 2023. UM, WHILE OUR REVENUE IS INCREASING AROUND 23%. AND THESE ARE BOTH RESULTS OF THE STRATEGY I MENTIONED WHERE WE TRY TO KEEP OUR, OUR RATES RIGHT AT THE MARKET JUST HIGH ENOUGH SO THAT THERE'S A SWEET SPOT. IF WE GO TOO HIGH, THEN WE, WE RISK LOSING TONS AND DOLLARS. Y YOU CAN LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF TONS AND HAVE YOUR DIFFERENTIAL DOLLARS COVER THAT LOSS. AND ON THE C AND D SIDE, THAT'S REAL CLEAR AND THE MSW SIDE HAS A, A DIFFERENT TREND. SO OVERALL, WE'RE SEEING ABOUT A 3% INCREASE IN WASTE AND ABOUT AN 11% INCREASE IN REVENUE. SO, JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR STRATEGY SINCE 2023. LANDFILL GATE RATE PER TON CHART. AND THIS IS OUR PROPOSED RATE IN COMPARISON TO OUR, OUR MARKET. AND THE FOUR LANDFILLS HERE THAT WE'RE REPRESENTING. THE FIRST TWO ARE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY FROM US. AND THEY COMPETE FOR TONS THAT ARE LIKE OUR MARKET IS IN ZONES. IF YOU PICK UP TRASH REALLY CLOSE TO THE LANDFILL, THEN YOU'LL WITHSTAND A LITTLE BIT HIGHER PRICE INCREASE BEFORE YOU GO TO ANOTHER LANDFILL AS OPPOSED TO SOMEONE WHO'S PICKING UP TRASH FURTHER AWAY. SO THE FIRST TWO LANDFILLS ARE KIND OF FURTHER AWAY AND THEY'RE ON, THEY'RE ONLY COMPETING FOR TONS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST OF US. THE SECOND TWO LANDFILLS, THEY'RE MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE TO US. THOSE, THOSE RATES, I DON'T WANNA SAY MATTER MORE, BUT THEY MATTER MORE BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE TONS THAT ARE PICKED UP CLOSE TO OUR LANDFILL. UM, THAT IF WE DON'T WANNA RISK THEM GOING AWAY, IF THEY ALL LEAVE, THEN YOU'RE GONNA START HITTING THAT SPOT WHERE YOU'RE LOSING TONS AND REVENUE. OKAY, GARLAND'S RATE'S SHOWN IN GREEN. YOU CAN SEE THERE AT, I PUT OUR RATES ON THERE TWICE BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO RATES AND NONE OF THESE OTHER LANDFILLS DO THAT. THEY JUST CHARGE ONE RATE NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF WASTE YOU'RE BRINGING. SO I, I'M ALWAYS SENSITIVE IN LOOKING AT BOTH RATES AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE AT $50, THESE ARE OUR PROPOSED RATES, NOT OUR CURRENT RATES IN GREEN AT AT $50. WE'RE JUST INCHING OURSELVES HIGHER THAN ONE OF OUR VERY CLOSE COMPETITORS ON THE MSW SIDE. AND AT $66 ON THE C AND D SIDE, WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING. SO AGAIN, AS I SAID, THIS IS OUR WAY OF KIND OF TRYING TO STAY AT THE UPPER EDGE OF WHAT IS A LOW TO MODERATE RISK OF LOSING TOO MANY TONS. AND THEN FINALLY, JUST TO RECAP WHERE WE'RE AT ON SATURDAY'S WORK SESSION, ON THE C AND D SIDE, WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED WAS NOT $66, IT WAS 64 AND A HALF. OKAY? AND SINCE THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNCIL AND STAFF DISCUSSIONS, WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK INTO OUR MODEL. I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO REEVALUATE MY CONSERVATISM BECAUSE WHAT I WAS DOING BEFORE TO PROPOSE THE 64 AND A HALF DOLLARS RATE FOR C AND D WAS I'M USING THE MODEL, I'M PUTTING IT IN A DOLLAR OR 50 CENTS AT A TIME AND LOOKING AT WHERE THE MODEL FLIPS FROM, LOW RISK TO MODERATE RISK. AND THEN I JUST BACK IT BACK OFF AND STAY IN THE GREEN ZONE TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE. BUT AS I LOOKED AT IT AGAIN, WE, WE REALIZED WELL YOU, YOU COULD PUSH IT A LITTLE HIGHER AND STILL BE IN THAT SWEET SPOT WHERE I MIGHT LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF TONS, BUT THE DIFFERENTIAL DOLLARS WILL OFFSET THAT, KEEPING THE REVENUE THE SAME. SO TONIGHT I'M REVISING THAT PROPOSAL. I, I THINK WE'RE COMFORTABLE MOVING THE C AND D RATE TO 66 AND LEAVING THE MSW RATE AT $50, UH, FOR NEXT YEAR. AND THAT'S IT FOR THAT. UM, ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER HERE? WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. HI. AYE. WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF RAISING ALL OF THE RATES FOR ANYONE THAT VISITS OUR LANDFILL EXCEPT FOR GARLAND RESIDENTS. UM, EVERY YEAR, EVEN IF IT'S A COUPLE CENTS. SO MARGARET LUCK GESTURES AND SPEAKS. I SAW A LOT OF POINT 50 FIVES ON THERE. THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T HAVE A 5 CENT INCREASE. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WILL, UH, MAKE [00:20:01] PEOPLE SHUTTER. UM, ON THE, ON SLIDE FOUR, WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPAN EXPECTANCY OF THOSE FARMER'S BRANCH AND DALLAS LANDFILLS WOMAN? BEARDED MAN, MAN SPEAKING, I DO NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE 30 YEARS LEFT ON OURS, RIGHT CLOSE TO 30 YEARS, 24 TO 26 YEARS. IT'S ALWAYS AN ESTIMATE. BUT WE HAVE A PRETTY HEALTHY LIFE AROUND 24 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. THOSE OTHER LANDFILLS, LIFESPANS, I CAN CERTAINLY TRY AND FIND OUT. BUT THE DALLAS LANDFILL IS, IS NOT IN DANGER OF CLOSING SOON. THEY HAVE A LOT OF LIFE LEFT, RIGHT? UM, THE FARMER'S BRANCH LANDFILL, IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME. I CAN FIND THE NUMBERS AND GET BACK TO YOU. AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY MY POINT. WE HAVE 24 YEARS LEFT AND THEY DON'T. SO REALLY NO MATTER WHAT, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR PRICE POINT IS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE FEAR OF LOSING SPACE IN THEIR LANDFILL LIKE WE DO. AND TEXT MARGARET LUCK DISTRICT EIGHT. AGAIN, I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF RAISING THESE FEES JUST BECAUSE, UM, THE LANDFILL BELONGS TO RESIDENTS OF GARLAND AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TO REAP THOSE BENEFITS FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. EVEN IF THAT MEANS A LITTLE BIT OF LOSS IN REVENUE DOWN DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE WE'RE A LITTLE TOO EXPENSIVE, THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN USE OUR LANDFILL FIVE, 10 MORE YEARS. UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S A WIN, HONESTLY. SO, UM, JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE. STICK ANOTHER 5 CENTS ON THAT. UM, MSW RATE TEXT CHRIS OTT. JUST, YOU KNOW, 5 CENTS ISN'T GONNA BE A BIG DEAL, BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT INCREASING EVERY YEAR, THEN PANELIST GESTURE ONE, REST GEN INCRE AT LEAST INCREMENTALLY, THEN YOU LOOK AT A 14% INCREASE ONE YEAR, AND THEN EVERYBODY'S LIKE, WOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT WRONG. PHILOSOPHICALLY, IT IS IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THE AIRSPACE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MADE IT TEXT MALLOY REPUBLIC. I, I THINK WE'RE IN A MODE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT BOTH THINGS. THE AIRSPACE IS MOST IMPORTANT AND WE'RE ALSO THE WOMAN SIPS ABOVE. WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO PROTECT THE REVENUE AT THE SAME TIME. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, AND REALLY IT'S THOSE VENDORS THAT SERVICE OTHER CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN SANITATION DEPARTMENTS, DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, TEXT CHRIS, WE'RE THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE. UM, AND REPUBLIC AND CWD AND ALL OF THOSE LARGE WASTE COMPANIES, THEY RAISE THEIR FEES EVERY SINGLE YEAR NO MATTER WHAT. EVEN IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACT, THEY STILL RAISE THEM. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT, THEY RAISE THEM A LOT. SO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THEIR PROFIT NO MATTER WHAT. MAN WITH CLASSED HANDS LOOKS LEFT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. YEAH. SO CHRIS, UH, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE MODEL. IS THAT, UH, THAT SOMETHING YOU DOWNLOAD FROM THE GOOGLE PLAY STORE OR, UH, WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? OH, IS THAT HOMEGROWN? WHERE, HOW, WHERE DOES, HOW DO WE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, IT'S A MIX OF HOMEGROWN PLUS A HEALTHY DOSE OF AI. AND IT, IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A SHORT TIME, BUT WE'VE SPENT MANY HOURS PUTTING IT TOGETHER. WE'VE USED SOME CONSULTANT ADVICE ALONG THE WAY, BUT WE, BUT IT, IT'S NOT A PRODUCT FROM A CONSULTANT. I, IT'S NOT THAT KIND OF THING, BUT IT'S VERY SOPHISTICATED. IT'S BEEN VETTED BY MANY OF THE STAFF MEMBERS AND, AND WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IT'S, UH, A GOOD MODEL. CHRIS HOFFMAN AND TWO OTHERS, YOU KNOW, JUST COMING FROM THE IT WORLD. I'M ALWAYS CURIOUS ABOUT THE DATA'S ONE THING, HOW YOU GOT TO THE DATA IS ANOTHER THING, BUT, UH, SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THAT. SO THANK YOU. JUST, JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT FOR MYSELF. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMEMBER TRAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU CHRIS FOR THAT PRESENTATION. QUICK QUESTION. UM, THE GATE RAY IS THE ONE THAT THEY, PEOPLE COME TO THE GATE AND, OKAY, THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT IS A CT GESTURES WITH RIGHT HAND? WE SEEN D STAND FOR GREAT QUESTION. IT STANDS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION. SO THERE'S TWO, TWO KINDS OF WASTE TO TO US LANDFILL FOLKS. C AND D AND M-S-W-M-S-W STANDS FOR MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE AND IT'S, WE ALSO REFER TO IT AS SOFT TRASH. IT'S THE TRASH BAGS FROM YOUR KITCHEN, HOUSEHOLDS, RESTAURANTS, THAT KIND OF THING. IT'S VERY DENSELY PACKED WHEN IT ARRIVES TO US FROM THE TRASH TRUCKS AS OPPOSED TO THE CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS THAT IS STICKS AND ROOFS AND BATHTUBS AND BICYCLES AND ALL THAT MANNER STUFF. AND IT'S LESS DENSELY. IT TAKES UP A LOT MORE ROOM. AND WHEN WE PACK IT INTO THE LANDFILL, [00:25:01] IT HAS, IT DOES MORE DAMAGE TO OUR EQUIPMENT. IT HAS DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES. SO CHIEFLY BECAUSE IT'S, UH, TAKES UP MORE SPACE. THAT'S WHY THERE'S THE DIFFERENTIAL FEE FOR THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO, SO I HEARD YOU, BASED ON YOUR STUDY, UM, YOU PROPOSE TO UP TO INCREASE THE RATE UP TO $50 FOR THE GATEWAY AND 66 FOR C, D, C AND D RATE. AND THAT'S THE BEST THAT YOU CAN, CHRISTINA AVIANO GO UP AND NOT HURT, UH, NOT CHASE THEM AWAY. CORRECT? IT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO WITHOUT RISKING LOSING YES. TONS. SO MANY TONS THAT WE ALSO LOSE REVENUE. SO YOU'RE THINKING IF THEY, IF THE THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S ASKING ADVICE AND YOU THINK THAT THEY WILL CHASE THEM AWAY, I THINK YOU'LL LOSE A, I THINK YOU'LL LOSE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TONS. YES. THAT WILL AFFECT YOUR REVENUE. WELL WE APPRECIATE YOUR DEPARTMENT. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FILES, GENERAL FUNDS. SO WE TRY NOT TO DO ANYTHING THAT, THAT LOOSE THAT PEOPLE SEATED BUSY THAT THAT FUND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK SIR. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, MANAGER AND MAYOR SEATED AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER RETURN, YOU HIT ON IT RIGHT THERE AT THE END. YOU SAID DON'T WANNA AFFECT OUR REVENUE 'CAUSE THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE AND I WOULD HATE TO RAISE THESE EVEN FURTHER AND START GETTING ON THAT DECLINE. LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT DOWNWARD TRAJECTORY AS FAR AS THE REVENUE GOES. UH, IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH GOING UP TO THE 66 FROM THE 64 AND A HALF THAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT. COUNSEL, IF I CAN GIVE IN CONSENSUS ON WHAT YOU SEE UP THERE, THE $50 FOR THE MSW AND THE $66 FOR THE C AND D RATES. DYLAN HEDRICK, THUMBS UP MICHAEL. BET SMILES CONSENSUS ON THIS. I DIDN'T SAY OR MORE. EIGHT COUNCIL MEMBERS GIVE THUMBS UP AND LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE UNANIMOUS ON THAT. SO WONDERFUL. APPRECIATE YOU GOING BACK AND TAKING A SECOND LOOK AT THOSE. THANK YOU. MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU. TEXT DYLAN HEDRICK, MAYOR. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU GUYS. MM-HMM DO A GOOD JOB. IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER ON LANDFILL, WE'LL ASK OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO COME UP. FAHAD AND I WILL STEP TO THE SIDE, BUT WE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THE WOMAN IN THE GREEN BLAZER CLOSES HER LAPTOP AND STANDS FOLLOWED BY THE MAN NEXT TO HER WHO ALSO CLOSES HIS LAPTOP AND STANDS BOTH EXIT THE FRAME TO THE LEFT, THREE NEW INDIVIDUALS ENTER THE FRAME AND TAKE SEATS AT THE LONG BLACK TABLE. A WOMAN WITH GRAY HAIR PLACES A WHITE BINDER ON THE TABLE AND SITS IN THE MIDDLE. A MAN WITH GRAY HAIR IN A BLACK AND BLUE JACKET SITS AT THE FAR RIGHT AND ANOTHER WOMAN WITH BLONDE HAIR CARRYING A LARGE WHITE BINDER SITS AT THE FAR LEFT. THEY ALL OPEN THEIR BINDERS OR LAPTOP AND ARRANGE PAPERS ON THE TABLE. AND THE WOMAN IN THE MIDDLE SMILES. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL AND MR. CITY MANAGER DELEE WILLIAMS WITH PARKS AND RECREATION. AND JOINING ME IS CARRIE PACHECO AND ALBERT MONTERO. AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND, UM, PROVIDE SOME FOLLOW UP INFORMATION FROM THE SPECIAL BUDGET WORK SESSION. SO THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL ASKED, UH, OF US TO GO BACK AND CONSIDER. SO THE FIRST ITEM WAS ABOUT OUR, UH, RECREATION RESERVATION FEES, UH, AT, AT THE RECREATION CENTERS. AND SO WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT, UH, RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT FEES AND THEN WEEKDAY WEEKEND FEES. SO THIS TABLE ANSWERS ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT UH, THE CURRENT RATE FOR A MEETING ROOM AT A RECREATION CENTER IS $60, $80 FOR A MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM AND THE GYM IS $80. AND WHAT WE PROPOSE TO YOU ALL AT THE BUDGET WORK SESSION WAS A INCREASED FEE, UH, FROM THE MEETING ROOM, TAKING IT FROM 60 TO 65, THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM GOING FROM 80 TO 85 AND THE GYM FROM 80 TO 85. AND THEN WHAT WE WENT AND LOOKED AT WERE WEEKDAY AND WEEKEND, UM, RATES. AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A REDUCED RATE FOR, UH, THE WEEKDAY FOR GARLAND RESIDENTS. SO YOU SEE THAT IT DECREASES BY $15 FOR EACH OF THOSE FEES FOR THE WEEKDAY RATE. SO FROM 65 TO 50 FOR THE MEETING ROOM, 85 TO 70 FOR THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, AND 85 TO 70 FOR THE GYM. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT OUR NON-RESIDENT RATES. AND SO ON THE NON-RESIDENT RATES, UH, YOU SEE THAT INCREASE OF $15. SO GOING FROM ON A MEETING ROOM, GOING FROM 65 TO 80 TEXT PROPOSED RENTAL FEES ON THE WEEKEND AND IT WOULD REMAIN AT 65 THROUGH THE WEEKDAY. A MULTIPURPOSE ROOM WOULD, UM, GO FROM 70, UH, TO 80, UM, YEAH, 70 TO 85, I'M SORRY. IT WOULD STAY THE SAME, THE 85 AND THEN IT WOULD INCREASE BY THE $15 ON THE WEEKEND TO A HUNDRED. AND THEN THE GYMNASIUM ALSO INCREASES BY THAT SAME $15. ABOUT 58% OF OUR BOOKINGS ARE, UM, RESIDENTS. AND SO [00:30:01] THE OTHER 40 SOME ODD PERCENT ARE FROM NON-RESIDENTS. THE NEW SLIDE APPEARS DISPLAYING A BAR CHART. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT OUR, UM, NON-RESIDENT RATE FEE COMPARISON. AND SO YOU ONLY SEE MESQUITE AND PLANO ON HERE AND THAT IS JUST BECAUSE, UM, A LOT OF THE CITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT, THEY DON'T OFFER THE NON-RESIDENT RATE ANY LONGER. UM, PEOPLE ARE DEPARTMENTS ARE SIMPLIFYING THAT PROCESS. AND SO MESQUITE PLANO ARE LISTED ON HERE AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT RATES ON THOSE BENCHMARKS FOR MESQUITE AND PLANO AND HOW THEY COMPARE TO GARLAND. BUT THE COMPARISON CITY AVERAGE FOR NON-RESIDENTS FOR A MEETING ROOM IS $103 FOR THE MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM 196. AND FOR THE GYMNASIUM, UM, 188. SO FOR ALL THREE OF THOSE FEES FOR THE NON-RESIDENT, GARLAND IS STILL BELOW THAT, UH, BENCHMARK AVERAGE THAT'S OUT THERE. FY 2026 DASH 27 PROPOSED BUDGET. SO I WANTED TO GO OVER JUST OUR PARKS AND RECREATION PRICING MODEL. UM, SO, AND SOME IMPORTANT NOTES FOR YOU GUYS. SO 4.9% OF THE RENTALS OCCUR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY BEFORE FIVE, UH, MONDAYS THROUGH FRIDAYS BEFORE FIVE. OUR WEEKEND RATE WOULD KICK IN FRIDAYS AT 5:00 PM AND GO THROUGH SUNDAYS. AND, UH, THE REASON THAT'S SUCH A LOW NUMBER, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS. ONE, A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T DOING THEIR KIDS' BIRTHDAY PARTIES, THEIR SHOWERS, THEIR GRADUATION PARTIES DURING THE WEEKDAY, THEY'RE DOING THOSE ON THE WEEKENDS. SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. BUT NUMBER TWO, WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMMING THAT HAPPENS IN THE EVENINGS OVER AT THE RECREATION CENTER. SO THERE'S JUST NOT AS MUCH SPACE. WE HAVE THE FREE PLAY BASKETBALL, WE HAVE PICKLEBALL IN THE GYMNASIUM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON THAT THE PUBLIC EXPECTS. SO WE JUST DON'T HAVE AS MUCH SPACE, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A HIGH DEMAND TIME FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, DO THOSE TYPES OF CLASSES DURING THE WEEK. AND THEN, SO THE 95% OCCUR FRIDAYS AFTER FIVE THROUGH SUNDAYS. SO THAT'S ALL THE SHOWERS, THE GRADUATION PARTIES, THE CHURCHES THAT WE HAVE RENT OUR FACILITIES. AND THEN I WANTED TO, UH, LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT COUNCIL, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDED AND COUNCIL APPROVED IN THE 2223 BUDGET PROCESS, THE ELIMINATION OF THE WEEKDAY AND WEEKEND FEES. AND THAT WAS JUST TO SIMPLIFY THAT FEE STRUCTURE AGAIN, IN OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN, UH, ONE OF OUR ACTION ITEMS WAS THAT PRICING SHOULD BE EASY TO UNDERSTAND BY BOTH THE STAFF AND THE USERS. AND SO WHEN YOU START TALKING TO SOMEBODY, YOU'RE TAKING A CALL AND YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, I GOTTA FEEL, ARE YOU A GARLAND RESIDENT OR A RESIDENT? AND DO YOU WANT THE WEEKDAY OR WEEKEND? IT JUST GETS CONFUSING. AND SO THIS JUST SIMPLIFIES THE PROCESS. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE RECOMMENDED AND IT WAS APPROVED IN THE 2223 PROCESS TEXT. THE SLIDE CHANGES TO SENIOR AQUATICS PASS. THE NEXT ITEM WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT WAS A SENIOR AQUATICS PASS. AND SO WE COMPARED, UM, 14 DIFFERENT CITIES AND OF THOSE 14 CITIES, THREE OF THEM OFFER SENIOR FEES FOR AQUATICS AND THAT'S LITTLE ELM PLANO AND ETTE. AND UM, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT LITTLE ELM AND PLANO HAVE INDOOR AQUATIC FACILITIES. THEY ALSO HAVE OUTDOOR FACILITIES, BUT THEY'RE TIED TO THEIR RECREATION CENTERS. SO THEY'RE TACKING ON A FEE. UH, YOU CAN USE THE REC CENTER AND IF YOU WANT AQUATICS, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE. AND SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE THAT AMENITY AT OUR RECREATION CENTERS, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS DOING, UH, THE SEASON PASS THAT WE IMPLEMENTED THIS SEASON OVER AT HOLFORD AND MATCHING THAT TO THE YOUTH SEASON, UH, PASS PRICE. SO A WEEKDAY PASS WOULD BE $35 FOR THE SEASON AND UM, THE SUMMER SEASON AND THE SEASON PASS WOULD BE $50. SO THE YOUTH AND SENIORS WOULD PAY THE SAME AMOUNT. AGAIN, SIMPLIFIES THAT PRICING STRUCTURE AND THOSE THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT WOULD BE SENIORS THAT ARE 55 AND UP. AND THAT ALIGNS WITH, UH, THE AGE REQUIREMENT THAT WE RE HAVE OVER AT THE CARVER SENIOR CENTER AND GARLAND SENIOR ACTIVITY CENTER. AND THEN WE DID OUR BENCHMARKING, UM, FOR THOSE SENIOR FEES. AND SO PLANO AND LITTLE ELM, THEY HAVE A MONTHLY FEE OF 17 AND $20 RESPECTIVELY. SO YOU SEE IT SAYS 42.5 $42 50 CENTS. THAT'S BECAUSE WE BASICALLY TOOK THEIR MONTHLY FEE AND CONVERTED THAT TO TWO AND A HALF MONTHS BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT WHAT OUR OPERATION IS IN THE SUMMER. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE IT SIMPLE FOR COMPARISON PURPOSES, BUT THE AVERAGE THERE IS $46. BUT AGAIN, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THE SENIOR FEES. UH, A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS DO THE SENIOR FEES, SO YOU HAVE TO JUST KIND OF LOOK AT IT. SO, UM, WE'RE BELOW THAT BENCHMARK FOR THE WEEKDAY AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOVE IF YOU DO THE SEASON PASS. THE NEXT ITEM WAS THE BRADFIELD RECREATION CENTER TRANSITION PLAN. AND SO THIS IS, UM, PERTAINING TO JUST THE RECREATION CENTER. SO WE HAVE 10 CURRENT CONTRACT INSTRUCTORS OVER THERE THAT TEACH DIFFERENT CLASSES. WE AVERAGE 25 CLASSES [00:35:01] PER PROGRAM GUIDE WHEN THAT GUIDE COMES OUT THREE TIMES A YEAR. UH, JUST REMINDING YOU ALL THAT, WE HAVE ABOUT 442 UNIQUE PROGRAM USERS, UH, MEANING THEY ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, UNIQUE USERS THAT COME TO DIFFERENT CLASSES. AND, UM, MOST OF OUR PROGRAMS CAN BE TRANSITIONED TO OTHER RECREATION CENTERS. SEVERAL OF THOSE INSTRUCTORS ALREADY TEACH AT OTHER RECREATION CENTERS. SO THAT TRANSITION IS VERY EASY OF THE CONTRACT INSTRUCTORS THAT WE HAVE TAUGHT TO, THERE'S ONE WHO'S, WHO'S TALKING ABOUT JUST RETIRING COMPLETELY FROM TEACHING. UM, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS EITHER ALREADY TEACHING CLASSES AND CAN ABSORB 'EM OVER AT OTHER RECREATION CENTER LOCATIONS OR WILLING TO MAKE THAT MOVE. OF COURSE, THAT'S ALL DEPENDENT UPON. ONCE WE MAKE THAT DECISION, WE'D NEED TO LOOK AT STAFF, UM, I MEAN SPACE AND AVAILABILITY, BUT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED REC CENTERS THAT THEY CAN MOVE TO. THE OTHER BIG PROGRAM THAT'S OVER AT BRADFIELD RECREATION CENTER IS THE STARS DAY CAMP. SO THAT HAS A MAX CAPACITY EACH WEEK OF 75 PARTICIPANTS. AND THIS YEAR THERE WERE 102 UNIQUE CAMPERS THAT CAME THROUGH THE UH, PROGRAM. AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS WE WOULD MOVE THAT OVER TO GALE FIELD'S RECREATION CENTER, BRADFIELD RECREATION CENTER, TRANSITION PLAN, LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM HISTORY, BRADFIELD CLOSED. OKAY, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON JUST THE TRANSITION PLAN FOR AQUATICS. SO A LOT HAS HAPPENED. AND SO 2019 WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE WERE COMPLETELY OPEN AND THAT WAS PRE COVID. AND THEN COVID HIT IN 20 AND 21. YOU KNOW, WE EITHER DIDN'T OFFER ANYTHING OR IT WAS VERY LIMITED. SO WE WENT BACK TO 2022 AND BACK TO I GUESS FIVE YEARS. AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS OPEN AND WHERE SWIM LESSONS WERE OFFERED IN 2022, HOLFORD AND SURF AND SWIM WERE BOTH OPEN, BUT SWIM LESSONS WERE ONLY OFFERED AT HOLFORD BECAUSE HISTORICALLY SURF AND SWIM DIDN'T OFFER SWIM LESSONS 'CAUSE IT WAS A WAVE POOL. SO IT WAS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. SO THE SWIM LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM WAS OFFERED AT THE COMMUNITY POOLS. UM, AND THEN IN 23 AND 24, BRADFIELD WAS THE ONLY FACILITY OPEN AND THE ONLY FACILITY THAT OFFERED SWIM LESSONS LOCATIONS. AND THAT IS BECAUSE HOLFORD AND SURF AND SWIM WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THEN LAST SUMMER WE OPENED BRAND NEW HOLFORD UP. WE HAD BRADFIELD OPEN, HOLFORD OPEN, BOTH OFFERING SWIM LESSONS. AND THEN THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT ALL THREE LOCATIONS HAVE BEEN OPEN AND ALL THREE LOCATIONS, UH, WERE ABLE TO OFFER SWIM LESSONS. AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE CHANGES AND MODIFICATIONS THAT WE DID TO THE DESIGN OF SURF AND SWIM ALLOWED US TO BE ABLE TO OFFER MORE SWIM LESSONS, UH, OR BE ABLE TO OFFER THE LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM AT THAT UM, FACILITY. UM, AND I HAVE THAT NOTE IN 2022, BRADFIELD WAS CLOSED THAT SUMMER. THAT WAS DUE TO THE LIFEGUARD SHORTAGE THAT WAS GOING ON. LEARN SWIM HISTORY SLIDE, BRADFIELD POOL PLAN SLIDE. SO YOU TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU THE ACTUAL CLASSES THAT MADE. SO THE SWIM LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM IS, UH, THEY HAVE FOUR SESSIONS EACH SUMMER. EACH SESSION IS TWO WEEKS LONG. AND SO IN EACH OF THOSE SESSIONS WE OFFER LOTS OF DIFFERENT CLASSES AT DIFFERENT VARIOUS TIMES. SOME, SOME IN THE MORNING AND SOME IN THE EVENING TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY'S, UM, SCHEDULE. AND SO IN 20 22 92 CLASSES MADE AND WE SERVED 1,213, UM, REGISTRANTS. UM, AND THAT WAS OVER AT HOLFORD IN 20 23 93 CLASSES MADE WITH A LITTLE OVER 1600 REGISTERED. AND THAT WAS AT BRADFIELD IN 20 24 85 CLASSES MADE, UM, WITH 1700 REGISTERED. AND THAT WAS AT BRADFIELD. AND YOU MAY THINK, WELL THERE WERE LESS CLASSES, BUT MORE PEOPLE REGISTERED. SO A A CLASS HAS A MINIMUM AND A MAXIMUM. AND SO IT JUST MAY BE THAT OBVIOUSLY MORE PEOPLE SIGNED UP IN 2024, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE LESS CLASSES IN 2025, YOU HAD 140 CLASSES MAKE, UH, WITH OVER 2100 REGISTERED. AND THAT WAS AT BRADFIELD AND HOLFORD. AND THEN THIS SUMMER, UM, WE HAD 121 CLASSES MAKE 1500, UH, PEOPLE REGISTERED. AND THAT WAS OFFERED AT THREE LOCATIONS. BUT BRADFIELD WAS CLOSED FOR TWO OF THOSE SESSIONS. SO WE LOST TWO SESSIONS AT BRADFIELD. SO THEY WERE ONLY OPEN THE LAST TWO SESSIONS OF THE SUMMER. AND WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING, UM, FOR NEXT YEAR IS TO BE ABLE, IF, IF BRADFIELD POOL CLOSED, WE WOULD ABSORB AS MUCH AS WE CAN OVER AT HOLFORD AND SURF AND SWIM. SO BRADFIELD WAS THE, THE POOL THAT HAD AM AND PM CLASSES AND UM, SO WE WOULD NEED TO ABSORB THOSE INTO THE SYSTEM BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT WORK NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN EVENING CLASS THAT THEY CAN TAKE THEIR KIDDOS TO. SO WE ARE, UM, TALKING ABOUT, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO MOVE THOSE CLASSES TO SURF AND SWIM. AND THE REASON BEING IS THIS PAST SUMMER, UH, WE DID THE ADULT SWIM, UH, I'M SORRY, THE ADULT, UM, SWIM [00:40:01] PROGRAM OVER AT HOLFORD. AND THAT WAS REALLY POPULAR. AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN OUR MASTER PLAN AND UM, IT, IT HAD A WAIT LIST. IT GENERATED BUZZ ON FACEBOOK THAT IF THEY WERE MAD IF THEY DIDN'T GET INTO THE CLASS. AND THEN ALSO POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THE CLASS ITSELF. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE AND WE CANNOT OFFER THAT PROGRAM OVER AT SURF AND SWIM 'CAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE LAPS, THE, THE LAP LANES LIKE THEY DO AT HOLFORD. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS MOVING THE EVENING CLASSES OVER TO SURF AND UM, AND WE WHAT IN, IN DOING SO, WE WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE THE DAILY ADMISSION HOURS AT SURF AND SWIM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. IT WOULD GO FROM 7:00 PM THEY WOULD CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC, UM, AT FIVE 30 SO THAT THEY CAN START THOSE 6:00 PM CLASSES. UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE A MAX CAPACITY OF SERVING UH, OVER 2100 PEOPLE. SO THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF CLASSES THAT WE OFFERED IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS IS 106 AND THE ACT AVERAGE NUMBER OF ACTUAL REGISTRANTS IS 940. THE TABLE SHOWS POOL DATA, TEXT BRADFIELD TRANSITION PLAN ABOUT CLOSURE. UM, SO THEN FOR THE, UM, JUST THE COMMUNICATION OF CLOSING THE FACILITIES, OF COURSE WE WOULD COORDINATE WITH PUBLIC MEDIA RELATIONS, UH, AND WORK WITH THEM ON THAT EFFORT. WE HAVE OUR OWN FACEBOOK PAGE THAT WE COULD PUT THINGS OUT ON UPDATE ON THE WEBSITE. WE HAVE THE REC BEAT PROGRAM GUIDE THAT WE COULD PROVIDE UPDATES. WE WOULD OF COURSE INFORM OUR CURRENT USERS, UM, LET THEM KNOW ANYBODY THAT'S IN A CURRENT PROGRAM WHERE THEIR PROGRAM WOULD BE RELOCATED. UM, WORK WITH THOSE INSTRUCTORS, GETTING THEM MOVED AND ONTO THE PROGRAM SCHEDULE AT THE UH, RELOCATED CENTERS. AND THEN WE WOULD DO AN EMAIL BLAST TO ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, USERS. SO THEY WOULD UM, UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE CLOSURE OF THE TWO FACILITIES. AND THEN WE ALSO WANNA BE ABLE TO, UH, PROPERLY TRAIN OUR STAFF. SO WE'D PROVIDE A LIST IN, UH, OF FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS TO OUR STAFF, TRAIN THEM ON THAT SO THAT THEY CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC MAY ASK ABOUT THOSE CLOSURES. WE WOULD REASSIGN THE EXISTING STAFF TO THE, UM, CENTERS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED AND THEN REALLOCATE ANY SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT TO OTHER RECREATION CENTERS SLIDE CHANGES TO. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT WE CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. YEAH, SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. WELL DONE THREE PEOPLE A TABLE ON SCREEN TEXT. I'LL HARKEN BACK TO THE LAND LANDFILL EXAMPLE, IS RAISING OUR FEES GONNA COST US TONNAGE OR MAYBE ATTENDANCE IS A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT. DO YOU THINK THIS RAISING OUR FEES WOULD HAVE PEOPLE GO TO RICHARDSON OR MESQUITE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE? SO I WOULD SAY WHAT OUR PROPOSED, UM, LET ME GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE. THE PROPOSED FEE THAT WE'RE WE HAVE OF JUST WHEN WE INITIALLY CAME OF 65, 85 AND 85, WE FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION JUST TO KEEP IT AT THAT AND, UM, NOT IMPLEMENT THE RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT OR THE WEEKDAY AND WEEKEND. WE DO A LOT OF RENTALS, UM, AT OUR FACILITIES AND WITH ABOUT HALF OF THEM BEING NON-RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO THE REVENUE IF WE HAD STARTED ADJUSTING THOSE FEES. UM, AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOT SUCH A, A BIG DRASTIC CHANGE IN THOSE FEES. 'CAUSE WE WANTED, IF, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF COUNSEL, WE WANTED TO STAIR STEP THAT SO THAT IT'S NOT A BIG SHOCK, UH, INITIALLY. OKAY. BECAUSE I, I JUST, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, WE, WE WANT PEOPLE TO KEEP COMING HERE AND USING OUR NEW FACILITIES, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANNA MAKE IT, DON'T WANNA MAKE IT TOO COMPLICATED FOR STAFF OR FOR PEOPLE THAT WANNA COME HERE FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WOULD PAY. SO ANYWAY, OKAY. I JUST WASN'T SURE WHAT, IS THERE ANY WAY REALLY TO MEASURE THAT? I MEAN HOW MANY NON-RESIDENTS WOULD CHOOSE TO GO ELSEWHERE? OH NO, WE WOULD HAVE TO JUST COMPARE THE DATA NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME TO SEE HOW MANY NON-RESIDENT BOOKINGS WE HAD AND WE WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO SEE IF THEY'RE REPEAT USERS. BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULD GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S FAIR. UH, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER CARAWAY? YES, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I LOVE THE PROPOSED, UM, RENTAL FEES. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A SOMEONE THAT STILL IS INVOLVED IN THIS TYPE OF APPEAL, IT'S, IT'S SPOT ON THE MONEY. I THINK OUR BIGGEST COMPETITOR IS ETTE AS FAR AS THE RENTALS ARE CONCERNED. UM, AND THEY ONLY HAVE ONE FACILITY, BUT I THINK IT'S SPOT ON THE MONEY. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY KUDOS TO YOU GUYS AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. SO I, I THINK THE WEEKDAY WEEKEND MAKE IT A LITTLE CONVOLUTED, BUT I DO, I DO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A NON-RESIDENT FEE PEOPLE AT A TABLE RED. UM, IT LOOKS HERE LIKE MESQUITE IS AT 85, 95, 90. UM, [00:45:02] I THINK THOSE ARE FAIR PRICES THAT WOULDN'T, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'LL MAKE PEOPLE SHY AWAY TOO MUCH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE MATCHING. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND UM, I LIKE THE SENIOR FEES COMPARED TO WHAT THE YOUTH PROGRAM OFFERS FOR AQUATICS. I THINK THAT'S VERY FAIR. AND TEXT CHRIS OTT, MAYOR, PRO TEM, DISTRICT FOUR, THE, UH, BRADFIELD. UM, I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT SURF AND SWIM MIGHT CLOSE EARLY. SEVERAL PEOPLE VIEW SCREENS AND DOCUMENTS. I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE THAT GO DON'T THEY STAY A LITTLE, DON'T THEY LIKE STAY THE WHOLE DAY? ACTUALLY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF FOUR AND SEVEN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 78 PEOPLE THAT COME IN DURING THAT TIME. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AT PEAK TIMES DURING THE DAY AND CAMPS ARE COMING IN AND PRESCHOOLS AND STAY AT HOME. MOMS COMING WITH KIDS, STAY HOME DADS. SO, SO THAT'S THE PEAK TIME. UM, SO, UM, YES, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW UNTIL WE GET THAT DATA, BUT I WOULD JUST SAY WE'RE AT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. IF YOU CLOSE A FACILITY AND WANT TO TRY AND MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE HAVE TO ABSORB IT SOMEWHERE. OKAY. SO SOME ADJUSTMENTS HAVE TO BE MADE. I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER AVIANA. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, I, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY COMMENT AS WELL. MY COUNCILWOMAN LUCK AS A, AS A WORKING MOM THAT GOES TO SURF AND SWIM, I AM DISAPPOINTED IN THAT. UM, I THINK CLOSING AT FIVE 30 IS GONNA BE A A TOUGH, IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH THING. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION AND I UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE TOUGH. MAYBE WE CAN SEE NOT LIKE ON A FRIDAY CLOSING AT FIVE 30. I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GIVING LESSONS ON FRIDAY OR I, I DON'T KNOW. I JUST, THAT THAT, THAT WAS MY FEEDBACK. EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKS REALLY GREAT. SO TWO COMMENTS TO THAT. FRIDAYS ARE A MAKEUP DAY FOR WEATHER IF YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, IF NEEDED ON THE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION IS THAT YOU WOULD DO AWAY WITH THE ADULT, UM, SWIM LAP SWIM PROGRAM AT HOLFORD AND OFFER THE EVENING CLASSES AT HOLFORD. SO THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. UM, AND YOU COULD KEEP THEN THE HOURS THE SAME AT SURF. UM, BUT AGAIN, THE REASON BEING IS SO THOSE CLASSES IN THE EVENINGS START AT 6:00 PM AND THEN IT'S LIKE SIX 50 AND WHATEVER IT IS, I'D HAVE TO LOOK. SO YOU DON'T WANNA BRING YOUR TODDLER, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE 3-YEAR-OLD IN AT 8:00 PM THEY'RE TIRED AND THEY WANT TO GO TO BED SO THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO START AT SIX. SO REALLY THE TWO OPTIONS ARE CLOSE SURF EARLY AND UM, AND REDUCE THOSE DAILY ADMISSION HOURS OR NOT DO THE ADULT SWIM, UH, LAP LANE SWIMMING THAT WE, UM, IMPLEMENTED THIS SUMMER AT HOLFORD. OKAY, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON, TEXT DYLAN HEDRICK MAYOR. I'M FINE GETTING RID OF THE WEEKDAY PRICING. IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT LIKE IF, IF THAT WOULD HELP US TO GET MORE BOOKINGS DURING THE WEEK, THEN WHATEVER. UM, BUT IF THE, IF THE NEED IS NOT THERE, THEN IF THERE'S NO DEMAND THEN YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A THING. UM, I DO LOVE THE RESIDENT VERSUS NON-RESIDENT. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT TEXT. JOE THOMAS JR. AND THEN ON THE, YOU SAID THE SWIM CLASSES START AT 6:00 PM RIGHT? YES. AND THEY'RE 50 MINUTE CLASSES TYPICALLY? YES. LET ME GIVE YOU THE TIMES THAT THE EVENINGS ARE I'VE GOT IT. I JUST HAVE TO GET TO THE RIGHT PAGE. OKAY. SO EVENING CLASSES, UM, IT WOULD BE 6, 10, 7 AND SEVEN 50. UM, THEY HAD A FIVE 30 CLASS AT BRADFIELD, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T START UH, RIGHT AT FIVE 30 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAR OUT THE, UH, FACILITY. SO IT WOULD BE A SIX 10 OR A SIX O'CLOCK AND THEN YES. EVERY 50 MINUTES. SO THE LAST ONE'S AT SEVEN 50. OKAY. THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS CURIOUS. UM, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE WERE BLESSED WITH SOME EXTRA DAYLIGHT MM-HMM . DURING THE SUMMER AND SO I WASN'T SURE HOW LATE WE ARE RUNNING THOSE CLASSES, BUT, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO IT AND UM, IT LOOKS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. MAYOR PRO, TIM MOT. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL THE DETAILS, ESPECIALLY ON THE UH, REDUCED DAILY ADMISSION HOURS ON THE BRADFIELD TRANSITION PLAN. THAT'S, UH, THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION. UM, HOW POPULAR IS THE ADULT SWIM PROGRAM? DO WE HAVE THAT MANY PARTICIPANTS? MM, WELL YES. SO, UM, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE WHAT THE SPACE WILL. SO WANNA SAY IT WAS 48, 45, 45 [00:50:01] IS WHAT THE MAX IS. WE'VE HAD A WAIT LIST. UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALSO IDENTIFIED IN THE PARKS MASTER PLAN TO INSTITUTE, UM, ADULT HEALTH AND WELLNESS TYPE PROGRAMS. UM, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IT. SO THIS YEAR IT TOOK OFF. UM, SO TEXT REDUCE ADMISSION HOURS AND PEOPLE WERE MAD THAT IT ENDED EARLIER. I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE, UM, ENDED IT IN JULY AND THERE WERE A FEW THAT WERE UPSET THAT IT WAS ALREADY ENDING. BUT, BUT YEAH. ALRIGHT. IT'S POPULAR. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ABSORB THEN. WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE THAT AND AT SURF AND SWIM, THEN HAVE IT CONTINUE. WE CAN'T OFFER THAT OVER AT SURF AND SWIM BECAUSE THERE ARE NO LAP LENGTHS. UH, YEAH. SO YOU CAN, THAT CAN ONLY BE OFFERED AT HOLFORD. THAT'S AT HOLFORD. MM-HMM . OKAY. GOT IT. AND AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED, UH, THE, THE RENTAL FEES WEEKDAY AND WEEKEND, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT, UM, UH, RESIDENT VERSUS NON-RESIDENT TEXT CARISSA GOTTON, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER CARAWAY QUESTION. UM, AS FAR AS THE ADULT SWIM, IS THERE ANY WAY, AND THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT PROCESS OF MINE, I THINK THAT WE'RE MISSING THAT, UM, WE HAVE A FACILITY GISD DOES, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GET SWIM LESSONS OVER THERE OR POSSIBLY GET THE ADULT SWIM THERE? WE'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH GSD IN THE PAST TEXT WORK SESSION AUGUST 3RD, 2026. THEY ARE, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, SWIM PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON. THEIR SWIM TEAM, THE WOMAN SPEAKS INTO A MICROPHONE. USUALLY IT COMES DOWN THAT WE HAVE TO RENT THAT FACILITY. AND SO THEN IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT TO RENT IT, UH, BASED AND NOT BE, BE ABLE TO OFFER. 'CAUSE OUR SWIM LESSONS ARE $65 FOR A SESSION. UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT VERY EXPENSIVE. SO IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO PRICE US OUT. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE IT AT THAT PRICE POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. D LEADS FOR THE, UH, NEW TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION. SO TEXT CHRISTINA SEGOVIA, DISTRICT FOUR. I THINK THAT I, THE OTHER FEES I'M OKAY. UH, I'M JUST LOOK AT THE, UH, TRANSITION PLAN FOR THE BRADFIELD. I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY IF I HAVE SOME RESIDENTS FROM DISTRICT WHO ARE DISAPPOINTED. BUT FOR THE TRANSITION, UH, PLAN FOR THE BRETT FUEL, UH, POOL, BASED ON WHAT YOU SHARING, UM, ARE THEY, HOW MANY PERCENT WILL GO TO SWIMMING? SWIMMING AND SURF? UH, AND THEN HOW MANY PERCENT WILL GO TO THE HARFORD? SO THE ENTIRE EVENING PROGRAM WOULD GO TO SURF AND SWIM. UM, BECAUSE HOLFORD DOES NOT OFFER EVENING CLASSES BECAUSE OF THE ADULT SWIM CLASS. SO ALL OF THE BRADFIELD CLASSES WOULD MOVE, UM, LET ME SEE OVER HERE. TEXT REDUCE DAILY ADMISSION HOURS AT SUN IN, SO CURRENTLY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT, UH, WE HAD 121 CLASSES MAKE, UM, 156, UH, ARE PROJECTED. AND I WOULD HAVE TO GET YOU THE PERCENTAGES OF WHAT WOULD MOVE DELEY WILLIAMS SHUFFLES PAPERS, A MAN SHUFFLES PAPERS. BUT IT WOULD BE THE ENTIRE EVENING PROGRAM WOULD MOVE OVER THERE. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE CLASSES AND RESIDENT TO THOSE TWO, TWO PLACES. YES. I MEAN, SO WELL THIS NUMBER FOR 2026, UH, JUST A REMINDER THAT BRADFIELD WAS CLOSED FOR TWO SESSIONS, SO THAT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO, UM, THOSE, BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE HIGHER IF THOSE HAD, UM, TWO SESSIONS HAD BEEN MADE. SO ACTUALLY IF WE LOOK AT OUR MAX CAPACITY, WHAT WE PLANNED TO OFFER AND WHAT ACTUALLY MADE THE SUMMER AND THEN WHAT WE WERE PROJECTING FOR 2027, IT'S ABOUT, UM, EIGHT CLASSES LESS THAN WHAT WE'D BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE AND A MAX CAPACITY OF, OF ABOUT 340 PEOPLE LESS THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE. SO, AND THE DISTANCE FROM THE BRADFIELD TO HARFORD IS CLOSER, RIGHT? YES. IS THAT TWO MILES, THREE MILES CLOSER? I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. AND THEN THE SERVE AND SWIM IS, IS LONGER YOU THINKING? THEY, THEY WILL, WILL, WILL AFFECTS THAT. THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GO TO SERVE AND SWIM BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE. I, I, THAT WOULD BE AN INDIVIDUAL USER. I CAN'T PREDICT WHAT PEOPLE WOULD DECIDE TO DO. UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE CERTAIN FACILITIES AND SOME PEOPLE GO AROUND TO OTHERS, BUT THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO TRY AND PREDICT. GOT YOU. GOT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THANKS SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, I PRETTY MUCH HAD SAID THAT I WASN'T GOING TO ENTER INTO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, SOME DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE. UH, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE CLOSING OF BRADFORD BRADFIELD. IN LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, UH, IT DOES APPEAR THOUGH THAT THERE [00:55:01] ARE A LOT OF ACTIVITY TAKING PLACE THERE, UH, 20 26, 20 27. AND WE HAVE MADE SOME, UH, DECISIONS THAT I THINK THAT AGAIN, OUR PUBLIC MAY BE, UH, DUE ONCE AGAIN, UH, SOME TYPE OF NOTIFICATION INFORMATION AS IT RELATES TO, WITH THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY. WE FEEL THAT WE CAN TRANSITION THOSE NUMBERS INTO THE OTHER FACILITIES. BUT, UH, COULD YOU JUST ONCE AGAIN EXPOUND UPON THE REGION THE RATIONALE THAT WE DECIDED TO CLOSE, UH, BRADFIELD? YES. SO THERE'S, UH, SIGNIFICANT, UH, CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE BOTH AT THE RECREATION CENTER AND AT THE POOL. AND SO LET ME PULL UP THAT INFORMATION. SO I GIVE YOU ALL THE RIGHT NUMBERS, BUT, UH, THE RECREATION CENTER, UH, REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED, UM, OUR, UH, APPROXIMATELY $767,000 AND THEN THE RECREATION CENTER IS 1.4 MILLION. SO THE TWO FACILITIES TOGETHER, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2.2 MILLION IN REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED. AND AS WE DISCUSSED AT THIS SPECIAL BUDGET WORK SESSION, THAT'S WHAT WE KNOW. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN WE START TEARING THINGS UP. AND I WOULD REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT, UM, THE SENIOR CENTER WAS INTENDED TO BE A, JUST A RENOVATION AND HAD TO BE A COMPLETE TEAR DOWN AND, AND RENO, UH, BUILD NEW. SO THAT'S, THESE ARE REPAIRS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SEE AND IDENTIFY AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. AND AS A COUNCIL WITH FIDUCIARY, THE RESPONSIBILITIES, ONE OF THE PRIMARY FUNCTIONS AND JOBS THAT WE HAVE IS TO LOOK AT THIS BUDGET AND TO LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO ESPECIALLY THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY AND MAKE SOME VERY HARD DECISIONS. AND THE DECISION THAT WE HAVE MADE IS EVEN BASED ON THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY WE DO AS A COUNCIL FIELD, THAT WE NEED TO CLOSE THE FACILITY. IS THAT CORRECT? UM, YES. I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS. AND IN OUR MASTER PLAN, DELEY WILLIAMS GESTURES IN THE, BOTH THE DEPARTMENT MASTER PLAN AND THE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN, ALL OF OUR FACILITIES WERE IDENTIFIED AS IN NEED, BRADFIELD. AND IN THE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN WAS IDENTIFIED AS, UM, A FUTURE, UM, NEED THAT IT WAS STILL NEEDED. BUT THAT THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF, SURF AND HOLFORD, UM, ADDING, REMOVING WIND FROM THE CONVERSATION AND BUILDING A SPLASH PAD, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE DID WITH THE 2019 BOND MONEY. SO, UH, BRADFIELD HAS ALWAYS BEEN IDENTIFIED. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF RESOURCES AND SO IN UH, REFERENCE TO THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, WE CERTAINLY WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT THIS DECISION IS NOT BEING TAKEN LIGHTLY IN THE CLOSING OF FACILITY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS? WHAT I'M HEARING IS, UH, ELIMINATE THE WEEKDAY WEEKEND RATE. JUST HAVE ONE STANDARD FLAT RATE AND ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SEE, RATHER THAN A RESIDENT NON-RESIDENT RATE, AND THIS IS COMING FROM THE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN, CALL IT A STANDARD RATE OR A DAILY RATE, AND THEN HAVE A RESIDENT DISCOUNT. THAT GIVES YOU A, A FEELING LIKE YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING A LITTLE BETTER. AND UH, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE THE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN AS UPSET. I THINK I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT WHERE I'VE RENTED A POOL FACILITY BEFORE, WE HAD POOL FACILITIES AND NICE AS WE DO FROM ANOTHER CITY FOR MY CHILD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY AND HAD TO PAY A OUT OF CITY RATE, WHICH KIND OF MADE ME STILL UPSET AT THAT CITY. SO IF WE COULD JUST CALL IT A STANDARD RATE OR A DAILY RATE AND THEN A RESIDENT DISCOUNT. 'CAUSE THEN WE'RE RUN A DISCOUNT TO OUR CITIZENS. SO I THINK THAT WOULD, IT'S FRAMING. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD THERE. UH, COUNCIL, ARE WE OKAY THEN LOOKING FOR, UM, CONSENSUS ON THESE RATES GOING FORWARD? TEXT CHRIS OTT, COUNCIL MEMBER, DISTRICT ONE THAT IS UNANIMOUS. THEN I DO HAVE ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. ONE MORE. OKAY. BECAUSE ON DISCUSSION ON THE RATES, ARE YOU GOOD WITH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS THE NON-RESIDENT? I BELIEVE SO. GOOD WITH WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE STANDARD RATE, STANDARD RATE OR DAILY RATE. YEAH. OKAY. MM-HMM . YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. TEXT DYLAN HEDRICK, MAYOR. ALRIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SIR. COUNSEL, WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. YEAH, WELL, I'LL STOP, PAUSE FOR A MOMENT. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON OUR, UH, ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? THE CAMERA MOVES TO A WIDER SHOT OF THE CONFERENCE TABLE SHOWING FOUR PEOPLE SEATED. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON. UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, FOR ANYONE WATCHING THIS MEETING, NOTHING HAS ACTUALLY BEEN DECIDED. AND SO COUNCIL VOTES FOR IT. SO IT'S STILL UP ON DISCUSSION. UM, IT WAS A CONSENSUS THAT WE TOOK ON BRADFIELD, BUT WE HAVE NOT DECIDED ANYTHING UNTIL [01:00:01] THE VOTE HAPPENED, SO THAT IS CORRECT. WE DON'T TAKE VOTES IN OUR WORK SESSIONS. WE JUST TAKEN IN CONSISTENCE TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION AND THE OFFICIAL RECORDED VOTE WILL HAPPEN AT A OFFICIAL REGULAR MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNSEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON OUR OPERATING BUDGET FOR THIS COMING YEAR? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. IT'S POTENTIAL GDC AMENDMENT FOR TOWNHOUSE STANDARDS IN THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT. MICHAEL J BETS CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, NABIL, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. NABILA LOOKS AT HER LAPTOP, TOUCHES HER HAIR, FOLDS HER HANDS. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT, UM, KIND OF CAME FROM OUR THOUGHTS WITH SB EIGHT 40 AND WHAT WE DID OUR, WITH OUR MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS. IF YOU REMEMBER, NABIL ADJUSTERS LAPTOPS, M**K ON TABLE TEXT CITY COUNCIL AS A REACTION TO A SB EIGHT 40. WE DID UPDATE OUR MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS TO INCLUDE MORE, MORE, UH, UPDATED INCREASED REGULATIONS ABOUT AMENITIES, BUILDING ARTICULATIONS, UH, SIDE DESIGN, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE LAND USE CHART WITH THAT AMENDMENT AS MULTIFAMILY HAS TO BE, UH, PERMITTED WHEREVER COMMERCIAL CAN GO EXCEPT FOR INDUSTRIAL. WE ALSO MADE TOWN HOMES A PERMITTED USE ON THE LAND USE MATRIX WHEREVER MULTIFAMILY COULD GO. THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT WAS, UH, WE WANT A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROJECTS IN GARLAND, SO WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT, UM, MORE DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE TO DO A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT THAN A MULTIFAMILY. AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE THOUGHT. AS THINGS PROGRESSED AND AS WE STARTED LOOKING INTO OUR STANDARDS, UM, WE THOUGHT, OKAY, UH, WE UPDATED OUR MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS, UH, BUT HOW ABOUT TOWN HOMES? BECAUSE THEY CAN ALSO GO IN MAJORITY OF OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, UM, BY RIGHT. UM, SO THAT NECESSITATED A NEED TO LOOK INTO IT. WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET. THIS IS JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS TO CITY COUNCIL AND SEE IF, UM, COUNCIL AGREES. AND THEN WE WILL GO AND WORK ON THE ITEMS IF COUNCIL, UH, DIRECTS US TO DO SO. UM, THIS ITEM, WE DID SUBMIT IT BACK IN MAY, BUT DUE TO THE AGENDAS BEING VERY LONG FOR A WHILE, IT GOT PUSHED. THE REASON I'M SAYING IT AT THAT TIME, BETWEEN MAY AND NOW, WE HAVE GOTTEN SEVERAL DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS THAT GOT APPROVED FOR TOWN HOMES BEFORE, BUT NOW HAVE COME IN TO CHANGE THAT TO ZERO LOT LINE. AND FROM THOSE DEVELOPERS, WE HAVE HEARD THAT THE TOWN HOME TOWNHOUSE MARKET MAY NOT BE DOING AS WELL. AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA ABOUT THAT. UM, THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING IT IS BECAUSE WE MAY WANT TO, ONCE WE PRESENT THESE IDEAS, THESE CAN EXPAND FROM TOWNHOUSE TO OTHER COMPACT TYPE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS, SUCH AS ZERO LOT LINE. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF START OFF WITH THAT. SO AGAIN, THE MAIN GOAL IS TO ENHANCE STANDARDS ENHANCEMENT IS THE, IS THE GOAL. UH, YES, WE'LL BE MORE, UH, OPEN, UH, WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND WITH THE HOUSING STRATEGY WE'LL BE MORE OPEN TO DENSITY. BUT WITH THAT DENSITY, WE WOULD WANT THE FORM OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TO BE DESIRABLE AND TO GET THE TYPE OF HOUSEHOLDS AND FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT QUALITY PROJECTS. UH, WE DO HAVE SEPARATE STANDARDS IN OUR GDC FOR TOWNHOUSES. THEY'RE A GOOD START, UH, FOR WHERE WE WERE BEFORE, WHERE TOWN HOMES WERE ONLY ALLOWED IN A FEW RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. BUT IF WE'RE EXPANDING THE, THE PALLET AND WE'RE SAYING TOWN HOMES ARE, UM, GONNA BE PERMITTED IN MAJORITY OF THE DISTRICTS, UM, THEN DEFINITELY THOSE MAY NOT BE ADEQUATE. SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO SOME KIND OF HYBRID APPROACH. UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE DO DID WITH OUR MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM DEVELOPERS THAT, HEY, THIS DOES, UM, CONTRIBUTE TOWARD, UH, GREATER QUALITY WHAT WE COULD HOLD, UH, ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT HEY, THIS HAS TO MEET OUR ARTICULATION STANDARDS, UH, WHICH WASN'T THERE BEFORE. SO WE CAN BORROW SOME IDEAS FROM THAT. UM, WE CAN SELECT SOME ELEMENTS FROM OUR DOWNTOWN STANDARDS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME, SOME THINGS IN OUR DOWNTOWN CHAPTER THAT CAN BE APPLICABLE AND I'LL GO, GO OVER WITH THOSE. AND WE HAVE SOME, UH, SINGLE FAMILY STANDARDS FOR TOWNHOUSES THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ENHANCE. TEXT SUBURBAN. SO A COUPLE THINGS. CURRENTLY, TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS CAN ONLY BE ON PUBLIC STREETS. [01:05:01] THEY CANNOT HAPPEN ON PRIVATE. THEY HAVE TO FRONT ON A PUBLIC STREET. SO IMAGINE TOWN HOMES, BUT THE STREETS CAN ACT AS HOW THEY WORK IN A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THE, THE PRIVATE, UH, ACCESS EASEMENTS THAT CAN PROVIDE ACCESS TO EACH HOMES, THAT POSSIBILITY IS NOT INCLUDED. UH, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, BUT THAT DOES POSE SOME CHALLENGES SOMETIMES TO COME UP WITH, UM, QUALITY FOR DENSITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DID, UH, SAY THAT IT WILL BE WORTH IT TO LOOK INTO THAT POSSIBILITY. AND, UM, INFILL REDEVELOPMENT ON EXISTING PUBLIC STREETS, WE DID WANNA CALL THAT OUT SEPARATELY. UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF DIFFERENT SETS OF REGULATIONS SHOULD BE APPLIED. IF IT'S AN INFILL REDEVELOPMENT TOWN HOME PROJECT, UH, WE'RE THINKING OF THOSE TOWN HOME, FUTURE TOWN HOME PROJECTS TO BE IN TWO DIFFERENT FORMS. UM, SOME COULD BE URBAN, UH, IN DOWNTOWN WE WANT MORE MISSING MIDDLE TOWN HOMES. UM, WE DO WANT THOSE TO BE KIND OF DENSE, UH, PROBABLY TALLER, VERY URBAN IN TERMS OF THE FORUM AND THE LOOK. UH, BUT ALSO THERE ARE PLACES FOR SUBURBAN TYPE TOWN HOMES. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE RIVERSIDE PARK, UH, WHICH HAS A TOWN HOME COMPONENT TO IT. IT IS, WE WOULD SAY SUBURBAN, BUT THE STANDARDS IN THAT PD, UH, WERE PRETTY HIGH. THAT ACTUALLY GENERATED A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE MIGHT, WE MAY WANNA PULL SOME IDEAS FROM, FROM THAT PD TEXT ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, BUT CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS INCLUDED IN THE GDC FOR TOWNHOUSE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS. SO WE CAN SAY, HEY, HERE'S A LIST YOU CAN HAVE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST SIX OF THOSE IN EACH UNIT, UH, FOR STREET SCAPING, HOW THE, HOW THE UNITS LOOK LIKE FROM THE STREET TO ENHANCE THAT EXPERIENCE. UM, AND I'LL SHOW SOME PICTURES. WE CAN REQUIRE SOME FRONT PORCH AREAS. WE CAN, UH, REQUIRE FRONT COVERED PORT AND WE CAN HAVE SOME USABLE SPACE THERE. AND THAT DOES CREATE, UH, A HIGHER, HIGHER QUALITY IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING. WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS. WE'RE LOOKING INTO, UM, WHAT TYPE OF TREES AND PLANTS ARE MORE APPROPRIATE WHEN THE LOTS ARE SMALLER. UH, IN THESE SITUATIONS, THE REQUIRED TREE COULD BE PLANTED ON THE LOT OR COULD BE IN THE, IN THE PARKWAY DEPENDING UPON, UH, ENGINEERING'S, UM, THOUGHTS ON IT. SO THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT TURNED OUT PRETTY WELL. ROW OF TOWNHOUSES, YOU COULD SEE THE COVERED PORCHES IN THE, IN THE FRONT OR RAILINGS THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY COLUMNS. YOU CAN SEE EACH UNIT IS CONNECTED TO THE WALKWAY, TO THE SIDEWALK. UM, JUST OVERALL, THIS, THIS WAS A RESULT OF A PD. UM, OUR REGULAR GDC TOWNHOUSE STANDARDS ARE NOT GONNA GENERATE THIS IF SOMEONE'S JUST FOLLOWING THOSE STANDARDS. SO THIS IS THE GOAL, LIKE NOT THIS EXACTLY, BUT UH, WE WANT TO GO THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A PD. SO SOME OTHER OPTIONS, ELK, COVES, PORTICOS, UM, ENTRY, RECESS A LITTLE BIT FROM THE FRONT FACADE. UM, THOSE COULD BE OTHER THINGS. ORNAMENTAL SHRUBS AND GRASSES. SO THIS IS A PORTICO, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT FROM GARLAND, BUT, UM, THESE TYPE OF THINGS CAN BE INCLUDED AS AN OPTION, UH, FOR DEVELOPERS TO CHOOSE FROM. AND THESE ARE THESE, LL COY IS HOW YOU SAY IT, WITH RECESS ENTRY. THAT CAN ALSO CREATE, UM, SOME QUALITY AND VISUAL INTEREST FROM THE STREET TOWNHOUSES WITH WALKWAYS TO SIDEWALK. UH, AGAIN, I WANTED TO POINT OUT HOW EACH UNIT IS, UM, GETTING A CONNECTION, UM, TO THE SIDEWALK. AND IT, IT IS, EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDING IS LONG BECAUSE IT'S, IT HAS, UM, SEVERAL UNITS, THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED, THE WAY THERE ARE DIFFERENT MATERIALS INCLUDED, UM, THERE, THE WAY THE ROOF PITCH ARE, UM, IT, IT, IT DOES CREATE, UM, SOME TYPE OF ENGAGED EXPERIENCE FOR THE RESIDENTS. UH, FIRST STREET SCAPES, WE WERE THINKING WHEN TOWNHOUSE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, WE DO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR, UH, GUEST PARKING. UM, SO THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR ON STREET PARALLEL PARKING, UM, SPACES. IF WE DO WANT TO GO IN THE URBAN FORM, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS JUST OUR DOWNTOWN, BUT, UH, THESE TYPE OF PARALLEL PARKING PROVISIONS CAN BE CREATED WITHIN TOWNHOUSE RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENTS. UM, ALLEYS CURRENTLY, UM, IF WE ARE ALLOWING GREATER DENSITY THAT CAN, UM, MAKE THE CASE FOR REQUIRING REAR ALLEYS AND, UH, REAR ACCESS SO THAT OUR STREETS REMAIN [01:10:01] NOT GARAGE DOMINANT. AND, UM, DRIVEWAYS OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT'S FROM OUR TSM, BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP DOING IT AT LEAST 20 FEET OR LESS THAN FIVE FEET, WHERE YOU CAN'T, YOU EITHER BE ABLE TO PARK YOUR CAR IN THE DRIVEWAY OR IT'S JUST SO SHALLOW THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO, UH, PARK ANYTHING AT ALL. UM, THE PUBLIC ALLEY COULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY OR IT COULD BE A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT MAINTAINED BY AN HOA, UH, BLOCK STANDARDS. WE TOOK THAT IDEA FROM OUR MULTIFAMILY, WE THOUGHT. AND A COUPLE EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, WITH OUR NEW STANDARDS THAT DID, UH, HELP TO CREATE KIND OF SMALLER WALKABLE BLOCKS. UM, MINIMUM TO BE 200, MAXIMUM 500. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR A MULTIFAMILY. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR OUR TOWNHOUSES. BUT, UH, THAT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR EACH BLOCK. WE CAN ALSO ESTABLISH RESIDENTIAL ANTI MONOTONY STANDARDS SO THAT A IN, IN ONE BLOCK, EVERY OTHER HOUSE HAS TO PICK DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS FROM THE MENU BOARD. AMENITIES IS A BIG DEAL. CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE, UH, AMENITIES, UH, THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO CHOOSE FROM. UM, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT TOO ROBUST. IT'S NOT A POINT SYSTEM. IT DOESN'T REALLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FORM OF THE FORM OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF BRING IN THE IDEA THE SAME POINT SYSTEM AND KIND OF TAKING IN, OKAY, IF IT'S A HUNDRED DING UNITS, YOU GET THIS MANY POINTS, YOU HAVE TO ACHIEVE THIS MANY POINTS. IF IT'S 200, YOU HAVE TO ACHIEVE THAT MANY POINTS. SO THAT IDEA, SO WE BROUGHT IN CLUBHOUSE, SWIMMING POOL, SPLASH PLAID, LEISURE AREA. SO TONS OF DIFFERENT MENU BOARD MENUS TO PICK FROM AND WE'RE TRYING TO ASSIGN POINTS AND THEN WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, IF YOU'RE ONE TO SIX, YOU MAY BE EXEMPT FROM THE AMENITIES REQUIREMENT, BUT, UM, JUST ASSIGNING HOW MUCH POINT THAT THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO ACHIEVE WITH A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT AMENITIES, UH, WALKING TRAILS, WE WOULD WANT THOSE TO BE REQUIRED IF THEY ABOUT A PUBLIC TRAIL, WE WOULD WANT THAT TO BE CONNECTED. UM, FOR INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT, ONE THING THAT WE THOUGHT, WELL, IF IT'S AN INFILL, IT'S PROB PROBABLY NOT TOO POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DO BIG, UH, AMENITIES LIKE CLUBHOUSE OR SWIMMING POLES. SO WE KIND OF RETHOUGHT THE, BUT WE STILL WANT THEM TO PROVIDE AMENITY. SO WE RETHOUGHT THE AMENITY, UH, MENU FOR THEM. AGAIN, THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, OKAY, IN THIS CASE, ONE TO SIX IS JUST FIVE POINTS. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT POINT STRUCTURE FOR INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR THE, FOR ADMINISTRATING AND MAKING SURE THERE ARE A LOT MORE COMMON AREAS IN A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT THAN SINGLE FAMILY. SO HOA WILL BE REQUIRED UNLESS IT'S AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT. UM, WITH THAT I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. AGAIN, NONE OF THIS IS SET FORTH OR DECIDED OR ANYTHING. THESE ARE IDEAS THAT WE KIND OF PUT TOGETHER WE THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS AND POSSIBLY OTHER TYPES OF SMALLER LOT, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. SO WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, WE RAN THROUGH THOSE PRETTY FAST. SO WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THERE. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK, WE'LL START WITH YOU. OKAY. UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON THE TOWN HOMES? WE DO. UM, CURRENTLY IT'S 35 FEET, BUT UM, WE CAN GO HIGHER. OKAY. I MEAN, I THINK IT'D BE PRETTY COOL TO HAVE A TEXT, CHRIS OTT, A TOWN HOME THAT'S REALLY TALL. WHAT ABOUT, UM, MARGARET LUCK JESTERS MEMBERS? LISTEN, WORKSPACES ON THE BOTTOM. SO THERE WERE SOME TOWN HOMES THAT I SAW IN ADDISON AND THEY WERE, I THINK, WHAT WERE THEY, THREE OR FOUR STORIES? WE WENT INTO THEM FOUR STORIES. YEAH, THERE WERE FOUR STORIES AND THEN THERE WAS A, A, A COMMERCIAL AREA ON THE BOTTOM FOR THEM TO HAVE LIKE A, A LAW OFFICE OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED KIND OF LIVE WORK. MM-HMM . OR, UM, MIXED USE. AND WE DO HAVE A SEPARATE USE FOR IT AND WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THESE TYPE OF STANDARDS APPLICABLE TO THOSE AS WELL. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. YES. AND QUICK CLARIFICATION, 35 FEET IS FOR TWO F FOR SFA, IT'S 40 FEET, SO WE CAN DO THREE STORIES. OKAY. AND THEN DO YOU ALSO ALLOW, UM, ROOFTOP TEXT, JOE THOMAS, JR. DISTRICT SEVEN AREAS BALCONIES ON TOP WHERE UM, THEY CAN HAVE A HOT TUB OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE? IS THAT CONSIDERED IN HERE? IF NOT, WE HAVE NOT. WE CAN WE HAVE NOT, BUT WE DEFINITELY CAN. THAT'S A GOOD, AND THAT COULD ALSO BE ADDED TO YOUR POINT SYSTEM FOR THE AMENITIES MM-HMM . OH YEAH. SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE PRETTY AWESOME. OKAY. YEAH, EXACTLY. UM, I, I DO WANT TO, I REALLY LOVE THE FACADE ARTICULATIONS THAT YOU SHOWED US. [01:15:01] UM, ESPECIALLY THE FRONT, UH, PORCHES THAT HAD DIFFERENT MARGARET LUCK GESTURES, ODD DRINKS LIKE ARCHES AND OH, THE, THE POEMS, RATINGS AND COLUMNS. YES. THE COLUMNS. YES, THE COLUMNS. THEY WERE DIFFERENT FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE. AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT REALLY MADE THEM MORE INDIVIDUAL LOOKING AND, AND REALLY THAT IS RIVER SET. SO WE HAVE DONE IT HERE. SO TO ME I'M LIKE, WHY CAN'T WE JUST ASK PEOPLE, REQUIRE PEOPLE TO DO THAT. I AGREE. UM, I DO WANT TO, UM, ON THE EASEMENT, UM, CARE HERITAGE PARK ON MILLER, THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT BEHIND IT, , THERE'S THIS LIKE 40 FOOT EASEMENT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HERITAGE PARK AND HERITAGE PARK PUT ALL THEIR CONSTRUCTION STUFF IN THAT EASEMENT AND THE, THE RESIDENTS WERE REQUIRED TO CARE FOR THAT HUGE EASEMENT. UM, IF A NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING IN, UM, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NEW EASEMENT, AT LEAST HALF OF IT, AT LEAST HALF OF ANY ADJOINING EASEMENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY IF IT EXCEEDS LIKE SIX FEET. SO TEXT CARISSA BUTTON, I'D LIKE THAT CONSIDERED AS WELL. JUST SO WE DON'T RUN INTO THE SAME PROBLEM WE DID WITH HERITAGE PARK. THAT MAY BE A SEPARATE AMENDMENT. UM, BUT I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF IT AND I'LL CHECK NABIL A NURSE SITS WITH LAPTOPS, GESTURES, AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. THANK YOU. AWESOME. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. SO, UM, NABIL BACK ON, I THINK IT'S SLIDE FOUR, MAYBE IT'S NOT THE SAME SLIDES IN THE PRESENTATIONS HERE, SO I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER. IT WAS GETTING PRETTY LONG WITH THAT, SO I DID DELETE, UM, SOMETHING TEXT MARGARET LUCK DISTRICT FIVE, THIS ONE. UM, YEAH, SO JOE OBAMA LOOKS UP, I, UH, UH, THINKING ABOUT THE, THE EASEMENT AND YOU KNOW, HAVING LESS THAN A FULL STREET OUT FRONT, OF COURSE I'M THINKING ABOUT Z 2311 THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TODAY. AND SO THAT'S GOT A LITTLE STREET, IT'S ONLY KIND OF ONE CAR WIDE. WOULD THIS CONFIGURATION HERE ALLOW FOR THAT NOW? WHEREAS, WELL THOSE, THOSE WERE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES ANYWAY. SO THEY HAVE TO FRONT TO PUBLIC STREET. THESE, I WOULD SAY THINK OF HOW YOU GO INTO A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND THOSE ARE NOT FULL. THESE, THOSE ARE NOT BUILT TO FULL PUBLIC STREET STANDARDS. THOSE ARE, UM, TEXT RIVERSIDE PARK KIND OF LITTLE LESS IN TERMS OF THE DIMENSIONS. SO THOSE JUST WILL BE LIKE THAT. BUT FRONTING, UM, THE TOWNHOMES WILL BE FRONTING THOSE. I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY OLD EXAMPLE, UM, I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE SUBDIVISION, BUT WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY DONE WITH THE PD BACK IN THE DAYS. BUT RIGHT NOW THE ISSUE THAT WE FACE IS THAT THEY HAVE TO FRONT A PUBLIC STREET, THE TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENTS AND OFTEN THE, THE DENSITY THAT IT'S BRINGING IN AND FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THE UTILITIES AND EVERYTHING IN THE PUBLIC STREET SETTING CAN GET A LITTLE, LITTLE PROBLEMATIC. THAT'S WHY OUR, WE WOULD BE OKAY IF IT'S A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT WITH THE REAR ALLEY. THAT WOULD BE CONFIGURATION WISE OUR PREFERENCE. BUT ENGINEERING CAN SPEAK TO IT MUCH BETTER. WE, WE'LL, YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. VERY, VERY GOOD. JUST WAS KINDA CURIOUS, IS THAT, IF THAT'S HOW THAT CHANGED? NO, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK SIR MAYOR PRO TEMA. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. WELL, NALA, THIS IS, UH, VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF, UH, THANK YOU. WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING ALSO, A GOOD EXAMPLE IS, UH, MILLENNIUM VILLAGE, UH, THAT DOES HAVE, UH, ROOFTOP AMENITIES WITH THE, UM, WITH THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE ON THE BACK OF IT. THOSE ARE NOT DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO IT, THE PUBLIC STREET, BUT THE PROJECT IS. OKAY. IT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THINGS, THE IDEA FROM THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND UM, THIS, A LOT OF THIS REMINDS ME OF OUR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT CODES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE, THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE. AND ALSO IT'S A LOT LIKE FORM-BASED CODES, YOU KNOW, JUST THIS IS THE BASIC PATTERN BOOK OF WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING AND RIGHT. AND SO TO, I KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING A LOT MORE TOWN HOMES HERE AND WE MIGHT AS WELL SHAPE THEM SO THAT THEY LOOK AT THEIR BEST. YES, SIR. THAT'S THE GOAL. UH, ONE THING I DID, UH, WANNA MENTION, UH, CURRENTLY IN OUR GDC, UM, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HAS, UM, A LIMIT OF 12, UM, MAXIMUM 12 UNITS PER ACRE. WE DO THINK THAT COULD BE INCREASED JUST GENERALLY 14 THROUGH 18 [01:20:01] IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THROUGH PDS AND OTHER THINGS, BUT, AND WE HAVE ALSO INCREASED IT, UH, IN DIFFERENT PDS. IS THAT SOMETHING Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT? SHE SMILES LOOKING RIGHT. WHAT DID I DO NOW? YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. OKAY. TEXT SUBURBAN RIVERSIDE PARK. NO, I JUST WANT TO CAUTION NABIL AND UX LEFT REST JEN COUNCIL TO, UM, MANAGE THEIR EXPECTATIONS ON HOW WE REGULATE BUILDING MATERIALS AND ANY KIND OF AESTHETIC DESIGN, INCLUDING ARTICULATIONS AND COLUMNS AND, UM, WE CAN'T DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PASS ANY RULE OR ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE STRINGENT THAN THE INTERNATIONAL CODES. AND SO THAT INCLUDES ARTICULATIONS AND COLUMNS AND OTHER DESIGN ELEMENTS LIKE THAT TEXT, JIMMY TRAN TEXT, BRIAN ENGLAND. ARE WE ALLOWED TO, ARE WE ALLOWED TO HAVE A TEXT DYLAN HEDRICK MAYOR, A BEST PRACTICE OR SOMETHING THAT, UH, JUST A, UH, JUST RENDERINGS WHAT WE, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE A PREFERENCE? YES. YES. WE COULD DO A PREFERENCE. WE COULD ASK POLITELY, BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE STATUTE'S PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY. AND SO WE CAN'T COME UP WITH THE SCHEME THAT, UM, WE'LL PUNISH A, UM, A DEVELOPER BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO CERTAIN DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE FIND FAVORABLE OR THAT WE, THAT WE WOULD LIKE. UM, WE HAVE TO TREAT EVERYBODY EQUALLY. UM, WE CAN'T PUNISH THEM IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S LESS STRINGENT THAN WHAT THE, UM, OR MORE STRINGENT THAN WHAT THE, UM, INTERNATIONAL CODES REQUIRE. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THANKS SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON, TEXT MICHAEL J BETTS TEXT CHRIS OT, CARISSA GESTURES. SO ONE OF MY, MY CONCERNS WAS, UM, WHEN WE OVERREGULATE DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT WHAT WE END UP DOING IS REDUCING OUR HOUSING SUPPLY BECAUSE OF THE COST OF MATERIALS AND THEN WE'RE LIMITING WHO CAN ACTUALLY DEVELOP HERE. AND SO, UM, I, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN AND WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS ABOUT OUR HOUSING SUPPLY, AND SO THAT, THAT IS A, A CONCERN TEXT JOE THOMAS JR. I I WOULD ALSO HIGHLY RECOMMEND MEETING WITH THE RIVER SET HOA AND HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND SEEING WHAT HAS BEEN A HINDRANCE TO THEM IS A COMMUNITY. UM, I KNOW THAT WIDE ALLEY SEEMED LIKE A GREAT IDEA, BUT ACTUALLY IN REALITY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T CARE AND THEY PARK IN THE ALLEY AND NOT IN A DRIVEWAY. THEY PARK SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ALLEY. THEY COULD CARE LESS IF YOU WERE TRYING TO GET THROUGH OR NOT. AND THAT IS AN EVERYDAY REOCCURRENCE. SO I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO JUST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEIR HOA, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT'S PROBABLY THINGS THAT WE WOULDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, PEOPLE SEATED AT A TABLE THAT ARE A BIGGER ISSUE FOR THEM THAN ANYTHING. SO, UM, THOSE WERE MY MAIN CONCERNS. UM, AND THEN YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR TOWNHOUSES THAT IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED. SO IN ADDITION TO TWO PARKING SPACES, ENCLOSED GARAGE SPACES, UM, CURRENTLY THE CODE REQUIRES ONE PER EVERY FOUR UNITS. SO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT, BUT WE JUST WANT TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL, LIKE ON STREET PARKING, MAYBE JUST A CAR OUT, JUST LIKE THAT DOWNTOWN EXAMPLE WHERE PEOPLE CAN DO ON STREET PARKING AS WELL. SO WOULD THE, UM, TWO CAR GARAGE, UM, 2015 SITUATION NOT APPLY TO A TOWNHOUSE? NO, IT DOES. SO IT'S A TWO CAR GARAGE AND ADDITIONAL, UH, PARKING SPACES FOR GIFTS IN TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS. DO PEOPLE IN TOWNHOUSES GET MORE GIFTS THAN PEOPLE IN, IN A DEACH SINGLE FAMILY? I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY IT MAY, LIKE, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. I WOULD RATHER SEE AN EXTRA AMENITY OFFERED TO, TO PEOPLE IN THAT, UM, DEVELOPMENT THAN EXTRA PARKING SPACES BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TOWNHOUSES. I THINK THE GENERAL IDEA IS IN SINGLE FAMILY, NOT THAT I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING IT ALL MAKES SENSE IN THE CURRENT GDC, THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT. UM, PEOPLE WILL PARK LIKE GUESTS. GUESTS ARE, GUESTS ARE ABLE TO PARK ON THE STREET. BUT IN TOWNHOUSES WE, AGAIN, WE REQUIRE THEM TO BE PUBLIC STREET. SO YES, THOSE GUESTS CAN ALSO PARK, UH, ON STREET. BUT IF WE'RE LET'S SAY GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO BE ON ACCESS EASEMENTS, THEN YES, YOU WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING BECAUSE THOSE STREETS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IN A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, PEOPLE WOULD NOT PARK ON THE STREET. THEY WILL PARK ON THEIR DESIGNATED GUEST PARKING. SO IT'S THAT TYPE OF SITUATION. [01:25:01] CURRENTLY. YES. I GET YOUR POINT BECAUSE WE REQUIRE THEM TO BE ON PUBLIC STREETS, BUT WE ALSO REQUIRE THEM TO PROVIDE EXTRA, UH, GUEST PARKING. BUT THAT'S IN THE CURRENT GDC, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO NO BILL AND THEIR GESTURES AS SHE SPEAKS, MAKE IT A LITTLE EASY FOR DEVELOPERS TO ACHIEVE IT BY PROVIDING ON STREET OPTIONS. OKAY. UM, I, I THINK ON STREET PARALLEL PARKING OPTIONS. YEAH. YEAH, I MEAN I THINK OUT OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED, PARKING IS THE LEAST. UM, OKAY. EASY THING FOR A DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? UM, IF WE'RE REQUIRING A TWO CAR GARAGE, THEN YOU SHOULD TEXT MARGARET LUCK DISTRICT FIVE. I I, I JUST, IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT LOGICAL TO ME. SO I WOULD, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE ADDITIONAL AMENITY AREAS, UM, OUTDOORS WHATEVER THAN AN EXTRA PARKING LOT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT GET USED BECAUSE OF A MULTIFAMILY. SO, UM, I LOVE THE WAY THAT RIVER SET IS LAID OUT. I WOULD SAY, UM, ALONG THE LINES OF THE, THE MATERIAL RESTRICTIONS, UM, NOT EVERYONE LIKES HOUSES THAT ARE MIXED WITH, UM, THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF STONE AND WOOD BECAUSE THERE'S, THEY ALL, IT, IT'S, I IT IS NOT MY THING. RIGHT. SO, UM, I I THINK THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE REALLY TRY TO OVER, OVER-REGULATE IT, WE GET A LITTLE, A LITTLE CRAZY. UM, AND IT CAN HAVE NE NEGATIVE REPERCUSSIONS. SO, UM, I APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER FRIEND GIVE TO MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. WELL I DID, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. SURE. I THINK IT'S, UH, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, UH, YOU ARE ASKING COUNCIL DIRECTION FOR UPDATED TDC FOR THE UH, BANNER WORK SESSION, UH, TOWNHOUSE BECAUSE RECENTLY WE DID THE UPDATE FOR THE MULTIFAMILY AND SO WE WANNA DO THE SAME THING FOR THAT IS CORRECT. TOWN HOMES CAN NOW BE PERMITTED IN MORE DISTRICTS THAN BEFORE. GOT YOU. SO, UM, AND THEN, AND YOU MENTIONED THIS, THERE'S THE MANDATORY ALLEYS. DOES THAT DO FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, DO WE DO MANDATORY ALLEYS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY? NO. MULTIFAMILY ISS DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT. WE DON'T, YEAH. OKAY. UH, SO TEXT JUSTIN CARAWAY. SO WE, WHAT WE TRY TO UPDATE ON THE GDC FOR THE TOWNS HOUSE, IS THIS PART OF THE GALLON ON THE RISE STRATEGIC PLANS LIKE, UH, I BELIEVE MAP 10 MENTIONED EARLIER, IT IS TO, UM, OBVIOUSLY MEET THE GOALS IN THE HOUSING STRATEGY, WHICH IS AND THE, UM, GARLAND UNDER RIGHT STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE QUALITY HOUSING AND MISSING MIDDLE FOCUS ON CONCENTRATED REINVESTMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND YOU THINK THAT MANDATORY ALLEYS TO THAT IS, WOULD THAT AFFECT THE COST OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIAL THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTS THEIR INVESTMENT? I DON'T THINK THE SPECIFIC, UH, SUGGESTIONS ARE, MAY NOT BE FULLY RELATED TO THAT, UH, TO COST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AT THE OVERALL GOAL IS TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT BETTER PRODUCTS FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IN AND CHOOSE GARLAND, UM, AS THE PLACE. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GOAL. GOT YOU. AND THEN CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW HOW MANY PERCENTS THAT I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE YOU HAVE A NUMBER, BUT I'M JUST ASKING IS THE, THE NUMBER OF THE PERCENTS OF THE TOWNS HOUSE IN, IN GARLANDS TO COMPARE TO MULTIFAMILY? I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN LAST QUESTION IS, THIS WOMAN LOOKS UP THEN LISTENS NORMALLY IT THAT GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICE COMMITTEE FIRST OR THEY CAN JUST GO, I HAVEN'T HEARD THIS ONE YET. SO GENERALLY, UM, THE WAY I THINK OF IT, THERE'S THE ONES THAT COME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE. IT FOLLOWS THE SAME PROCESS. ONCE WE TALK ABOUT IT IN THE COMMITTEE, WE COME TO CITY COUNCIL, WE DO A REPORT OUT, THEN WE GO WORK ON IT. IF IT'S STAFF INITIATED LIKE THIS, THIS DIDN'T COME FROM THE COMMITTEE. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE REPORT OUT SEEING IF COUNCIL WANTS STAFF TO GO WORK ON IT. GOT YOU, GOT YOU. TEXT CHRISTINA SANO, DISTRICT FOUR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YOU ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS. I'LL SEND YOU THE TOWN HOME VERSUS MULTI-FAMILY MEMBERS TOMORROW. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. THANK YOU. UM, SO I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. UM, IF WE SET DESIGN PREFERENCES, CAN WE GIVE POINTS TO DEVELOPERS FOR ACHIEVING THOSE PREFERENCES? TEXT CARISSA BUTTON, WHAT WOULD THE POINTS ACCOMPLISH? WELL, LIKE WE HAVE THE AMENITY POINTS SYSTEM AND IF THEY, YOU KNOW, WANT TO GO ALL [01:30:01] OUT ON A DESIGN AND MAKE IT FANTASTIC, THEN WE GIVE THEM SOME POINTS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO DO AS MANY AMENITIES KIND OF TRADE OUT A LITTLE BIT. SO YOU HAVE A PRODUCT THAT LOOKS FANTASTIC AND MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE A DOG PARK. I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I, I'LL TELL YOU MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS WE PROBABLY CANNOT TREAT THEM ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN A DEVELOPER WHO, UM, WANTS TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND. WE, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GIVE THEM, WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THEM BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE TO FOLLOW THEM. WELL, IT'S NOT A DISCRIMINATION, IT'S A IT'S A CHOICE. THEY GET TO MAKE THE CHOICE. THAT'S TRUE. BUT I GUESS THE CHOICE, IF IT, IF IT MEANS BY MAKING A CHOICE, THEN I'M GOING TO GET ACCESS TO SOMETHING I WOULD NOT OTHERWISE HAVE. THAT WOULD BE DISCRIMINATION TEXT. CHRIS OTT, MAYOR PRO TEM, DISTRICT SIX. WELL THANK YOU. THAT'S MY INITIAL, BUT I WILL LOOK INTO IT. BUT THAT'S MY INITIAL THOUGHT ON IT. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU BET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS PEOPLE LOOK FORWARD. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. TOWN HOMES, HOW MANY HAVE WE TOWN HOME LOCATION FOR A PRIVATE STREET? BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT WAS A SUGGESTION BY ENGINEERING. THAT'S A, THAT'S A THOUGHT FROM ENGINEERING. UH, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE FRONTING PUBLIC STREETS. RIGHT? UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST THAT. I HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED ON TOWN HOME PROJECTS ON PRIVATE STREETS. MM-HMM . AND IT'S VERY HARD TO FIT THE UTILITIES IN MM-HMM . AND GET FIRE LANE WITH REQUIREMENTS GARBAGE WITH REQUIREMENTS FOR TRASH TRUCKS TO ACCESS THEM. AND IF AN HOA GOES UNDER A WORD LEFT WITH RESPONSIBILITY, UPKEEP ON THAT, THAT DOESN'T MEET CITY STANDARDS. MM-HMM . SO I WOULD, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING PRIVATE STREETS IN A, UM, TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. WE CAN, WE CAN GO BACK TO ENGINEERING. TALK ABOUT IT MORE. UH, YOU MENTIONED ALLEY'S AS WELL. ALLEYS IS JUST TO GET REAR ACCESS GARAGES, RIGHT? IS THAT MAIN THING? YEAH, FOR US IT'S MOSTLY TO MAINTAIN THE, THE LOOK OF THE HOUSE FROM THE STREET SO THAT THEY'RE NOT GARAGE DOMINANT. UM, BUT OF COURSE, WELL, YOU KNOW, TOWN HOMES, WE ALL GET TOWN HOMES THAT ARE FRONT LOADED GARAGE AND YOU HAVE A 20 FOOT GARAGE WIDTH AND YOU HAVE A FOUR FOOT DOOR ON THE SIDE. YES. WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THAT 24 FEET FOR A TOWN HOME THAT'S HARD TO AVOID IN TOWN IN INFIELD DEVELOPMENTS. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE A LOT THAT DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WIDTH FOR AN ALLEY, LET ALONE, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT AS WELL. UM, DO WE REQUIRE, WE DON'T REQUIRE, I KNOW POINT SYSTEMS FOR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. I KNOW THIS TOWN FOR AMENITIES. DO WE RIGHT NOW? NO, WE DO NOT FOR, FOR SINGLE FAMILIES. RIGHT. I KNOW TOWN HOMES IS KIND OF A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN THESE MULTIFAMILY AND THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THIS POINT SYSTEM. I'M NOT COMPLETELY SOLD ON A HUNDRED PERCENT YET. ESPECIALLY THERE WAS A MENTION ABOUT HOAS NOT BEING REQUIRED. I BELIEVE OUR, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE HOAS FOR ALL DUE DEVELOPMENT. NO, WE WILL, UH, IT'S ONLY IF IT'S AN INFILL. SO IT'S IN DOWNTOWN. IF THERE'S A LOT WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING TOWN HOMES, WE DON'T KNOW IF, BUT IN THOSE CASES, WE'RE NOT GONNA REQUIRE THE TYPE OF AMENITIES THAT WILL WELL I MEAN EVERYTHING'S AN INFILL AT THIS POINT. RIGHT. SO IT'S LIKE, IF IT'S NOT, WHERE DO WE DRAW THAT LINE? IS IT YOU'RE BUILDING THREE, FOUR TOWN HOMES ON A LOT? BECAUSE I'M WORKING ON PROJECTS RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY TORE DOWN TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEY'RE PUTTING SIX TOWN HOMES ON THAT PROJECT. IS THAT AN INFILL PROJECT? DOES THAT REQUIRE TO OWN HOA? THERE'S A LOT. I'M FOR THIS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MORE, UH, MORE INFORMATION AND MORE. RIGHT. YEAH. SO I'M FINE WITH STAFF MOVING AHEAD WITH THIS. I WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN THE SLIDES BEFORE WE WENT TO THIS, TO TO, BECAUSE I'M SEEING 'EM AND WE WENT THROUGH 'EM RELATIVELY FAST FOR THE FIRST TIME HERE. MM-HMM . I'D LOVE TO SEE THE SLIDES TO GET SENT OUT TO COUNCIL AND MAYBE BRING THIS BACK FOR ANOTHER WORK SESSION FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF DISCUSSION. OKAY. ONCE, YEAH. COUNCIL, ONCE STAFF HAS MORE TIME TO WORK ON IT, ONCE COUNCIL HAS MORE TIME TO LOOK INTO IT AS WELL. SO WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, BECAUSE WE, I WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO BRING IT IN, WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. UH, WHAT WOULD THOSE BE? KIND OF MORE INFILL SITUATION, FLESHED OUT THE WOMAN GESTURES? UM, WELL CERTAINLY ONE THING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK TALKED ABOUT AND THAT'S BRINGING UP THESE DESIGN STANDARDS. I KNOW I'VE WORKED IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND THEY ARE QUITE STRICT ON WHAT I'M ALLOWED TO DO DOWN TO THE COLOR OF THE PAINT. AND I KNOW THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT STATE LAW ALLOWS, BUT THEY GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE MY PROJECT'S NOT APPROVED UNLESS I GET A WAIVER ON MY SHADE OF RED THAT I'M USING ON MY, MY BUILDING. UM, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD DO. UM, IF WE'RE GOING TEXT DYLAN HEDRICK, MAYOR, HEDRICK SMILES, I KNOW WE WANNA KEEP OUR STANDARDS HIGH, SO I'D LIKE TO KEEP HIGH STANDARDS OF COURSE. OKAY. BUT, UM, I'LL JUST HAVE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON, ON WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE. OKAY. [01:35:01] I I, I, AGAIN, I'D HAVE TO HAVE MORE TIME TO DIGEST ALL THE REGULATIONS WE SAW AND THEN STAFF, I'D LOVE FOR THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AS WELL. SURE. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN FLESH OUT, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE AMENITIES AND WE CAN, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE POINT SYSTEM, HOW IT APPLIES OR NOT, SO WE CAN COME IN, RIGHT. THAT, THAT, THAT'S A LOT OF GRAY AREA FOR ME RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE AMENITY REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY IN THE GDC FOR TOWN HOMES. WE'RE JUST MOVING IT A LITTLE BIT AND EXPANDING THE CHOICES WITH THE INFIELD DESIGNATION THAT THAT'S WHAT MM-HMM . BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE 10 ACRES JUST TO BUILD TOWN HOMES ON NECESSARILY ANYMORE THAT, OR WE HAVE, I IMAGINE TOWN HOME UNLESS, I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE SOMEONE MAY BUY OUT, BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE CALLING INFILL DEVELOPMENT VERSUS NON INFILL DEVELOPMENT? WELL, WE'LL COME UP WITH LIKE A PARTICULAR DEFINITION WHERE WE CAN UM, SAY THAT, HEY, THERE'S, THIS IS WHAT INFILL AND, AND, AND I HAVE SEEN, THERE WAS ANOTHER PROJECT IN ANOTHER CITY THAT IT WAS A SEVEN ACRE SOMETHING, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WAS BUILT AROUND IT AND THEY WERE CALLING IT INFILL TO ME. THAT'S NOT INFILL, BUT, UM, WE'LL HAVE A DEFINITION FOR THIS PURPOSE. SURE. YEAH. OKAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAN. THANK YOU. UM, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT WE, WE WANTED MORE TIME TO DIGEST ON THIS. OKAY. YEAH. BUT I HAVE, LAST QUESTION I FORGOT TO ASK IS IF WE HAVE THE MANDATORY OR THE ALLEYS, UH, WHO WILL MAINTAIN IT? IS IT THE, THE CITY WILL MAINTAIN THE ALLEYS OR, SO IF IT'S A PUBLIC, PUBLIC ALLEY, THEN THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN IT. IF IT'S, UH, PRIVATE, THEN IT'S MAINTAINED BY THE HOA. OH. SO IT CAN BE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE IT ALL FLESHED OUT. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF IT. WE WILL BE FLESHING THOSE OUT WITH THIS AMENDMENT IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO SO. YEAH, I AGREE. WE NEED SOME MORE, MORE TIME TO DIGEST. THANK YOU. OKAY, YOU'RE WELCOME. AND ONE OTHER, I DID HAVE ANOTHER THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. TR ONE OTHER POINT ABOUT THE PRIVATE ALLEYS AND DRIVES. I THINK IT WOULD BE HARDER TO GET SOMEONE TOWED OFF OF A PRIVATE STREET RATHER THAN A PUBLIC STREET. JUST IN CONSIDERATION WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON TALKED ABOUT WITH PEOPLE PARKING DIRECTLY IN THE ALLEYS. UM, COUNSEL, I'M FOR STAFF CONTINUING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND BRING IT BACK ANOTHER TIME. UH, I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. SO I'M ASKING FOR A CONSENSUS ON HAVING STAFF CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS. ALRIGHT, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MORE AT A FUTURE WORK SESSION THEN. THANK YOU SIR. COUNSEL, WE'VE BEEN OUT A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF. I'M GONNA CALL FOR A 10 MINUTE RECESS, ASK YOU TO BE BACK AT 7 48. WE ARE IN RECESS. TEXT MICHAEL J BETS GARLAND WORK SESSION AND RECESS. WELCOME BACK TO OUR WORK SESSION. WE'LL CONTINUE ON NOW WITH MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, GDC AMENDMENT 26 DASH ZERO FIVE. THE TWO MEN ARE AT THE TABLE. MICHAEL J BETS LOOKS DOWN AT HIS COMPUTER WHILE DYLAN HEDRICK GLANCES UP FROM HIS LAPTOP. THE CAMERA PENS TO A WOMAN SEATED AT A TABLE, OPERATING A LAPTOP AND A MOUSE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS ONE IS AT A DIFFERENT STAGE THAN THE ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. WE HAD COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UH, PRESENTED THIS ITEM. WE GOT SOME DIRECTION FROM, UH, CITY COUNCIL. WE WENT AND WORKED ON IT. IT WENT TO PLAN COMMISSION AND UH, NOW WE ARE HERE AGAIN AT A COUNCIL WORKSHOP. AND IF COUNCIL'S OKAY, IT'LL THEN GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING. SO THIS ACTUALLY HAS, UM, WE HAVE ALREADY, UM, WORKED ON THE AMENDMENTS. UM, SO RIGHT NOW JUST JUST TO REFRESH EVERY, EVERYBODY'S MEMORIES, UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT TO DO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO EXCEED THOSE MAXIMUM IN SECTION 4.20 K OF THE GDC. AND IT'S BASED OFF OF STRUCTURE SQUARE FOOTAGE. IF IT'S ZERO TO 40,000 SQUARE FOOT, IT'S 5%. YOU CAN INCREASE 5%. IF IT'S 40,000 TO 85,000, YOU CAN INCREASE 10%. IF IT'S MORE THAN 85,000, IT'S MORE THAN, UH, IT'S 15% IS YOUR LIMIT. UH, WE DIDN'T REALLY SEE ANY RATIONALE BEHIND REALLY TYING IT TO PROJECT SQUARE FOOTAGE. UH, IT ALSO DOESN'T PROVIDE ADEQUATE RELIEF AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL. UM, IT OUTLINES THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PROCESS TO GO BEYOND THE MAXIMUM, WHICH IS ALSO A LITTLE, LITTLE AWKWARD TO HAVE IT, UH, JUST FOR THAT. AND, UH, THE PURPOSE IS REALLY TO SIMPLIFY THE MAXIMUM PARKING PROCEDURE AND PROCESS. AND I KNOW AT THE, UH, WHEN WE HAD COME IN AND SHARED THE IDEA, THERE WAS SOME, THERE WERE, UM, WILLINGNESS FOR, FOR, FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. BUT, UH, THAT WILL NEED TO, THAT'LL, THAT IS A SEPARATE AMENDMENT BECAUSE THAT'LL REQUIRE A LOT OF STUDY RESEARCH AND, UM, THAT'LL BE TIED TO OUR LAND USE CHART UPDATE AS WELL. SO WE'LL WAIT A LITTLE BIT FOR THAT. THIS IS REALLY A QUICK FIX FOR OUR MAXIMUM PARKING STANDARDS. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS LISTED IN THE LAND USE CHART. UM, IT'S NOT, [01:40:01] WE HAVE ALWAYS IDENTIFIED IT AS MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT, BUT IT, THE WAY IT READS IN THE LAND USE MATRIX AND THE MAXIMUM PARKING SECTION, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. SO WE'RE JUST CLARIFYING THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR LAND USE MATRIX IS THE MINIMUM, UH, MINIMUM SPACES REQUIRED MULTIFAMILY PARKING, SO FOR MULTIFAMILY. AND THESE, THESE, UM, UPDATES ONLY APPLY TO MULTIFAMILY AND NON-RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE SINGLE FAMILY, IT'S, UM, KIND OF SET IT'S TWO SPACES AND CLOSED GARAGE THAT. SO WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT, THAT, UM, REQUIREMENT. SO FOR MULTIFAMILY, AS YOU'RE AWARE, SB EIGHT 40, UM, MADE THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT TO BE ONE SPACE PER DUELING UNIT. UM, WE HAVE YET TO HEAR FROM A DEVELOPER THAT THAT'S ENOUGH. UM, EVERYBODY'S DOING MORE THAN ONE SPACE. UM, BUT, UH, WE ALSO WANNA HAVE A MAXIMUM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY OUR PREVIOUS MINIMUM, WHICH IS EFFICIENCY FOR EFFICIENCY UNITS, ONE SPACE, ONE BEDROOM, 1.52 PLUS BEDROOMS, TWO SPACES. SO THAT IS GONNA BECOME OUR MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY. AND IF WE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO BEYOND THAT, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PD BECAUSE, UH, WE DO DETERMINE WE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S ADEQUATE PARKING AND WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE MORE AMENITIES OR MORE, UM, SPACE FOR PEOPLE, UM, THAN JUST HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION. UH, ON NON-RES. ONE SECOND. WE DO HAVE, DO YOU WANNA JUMP IN OUT OR DO YOU WANNA LET HER OKAY, THEN WE'LL CONTINUE ON. OKAY. UH, FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL, UM, LAST TIME I WAS ASKED IF I COULD USE A NUMBER. SO I WILL DO THAT. SO IF, IF A BUSINESS IS REQUIRED TO HAVE 100 PARKING SPACES WITH THIS PROPOSED REGULATION, THEY CAN DO 100 BETWEEN 100 AND 115 WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH ANY PROCESS. SO THEY CAN DO UP TO 15% MORE WITHOUT A PROCESS MAX 30% PARKING, NO RELIEF FROM 15% TO 30%, WHICH IS 150 TO 130. THEY'LL NEED TO GO THROUGH A PARKING DEVIATION PROCESS, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATIVE. THEY'LL HAVE TO SHOW, UM, A TRAFFIC STUDY. THEY'LL HAVE TO SHOW THEIR OPERATIONS, THEY'LL HAVE TO SHOW IN A TANGIBLE MANNER WHY THEY NEED, UM, THAT MUCH PARKING MORE THAN OUR MINIMUM REQUIRED. BUT IF IT'S OVER 30%, THEN THERE'S NO ADMINISTRATIVE RELIEF IT HAS TO COME TO COUNCIL. UM, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST TIME WE PROPOSED THE 40% NUMBER AND IT WAS COUNCIL'S DESIRE THAT WE BRING IT DOWN TO 30% AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. UM, PROCEDURE WISE, THE SAME PROCESS AS ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, UM, AGAIN, HAS TO BE PREPARED BY A LICENSED TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER. THEY'LL HAVE TO SHOW AN ACTUAL NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING AND IF THEY'RE PROVIDING, UH, THAT MUCH MORE PARKING, IT HAS TO BE MITIGATED THROUGH INCREASED LANDSCAPING OR STORM WATER CONTROL RELIEF PROCEDURE. SLIDE BULLET POINTS, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT OTHER METHODS. DOWNTOWN EXEMPTION BLUE SEVEN, UM, THE DOWNTOWN. UM, WE WANTED TO ADD AN EXEMPTION FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL PARKING IN DOWNTOWN. UM, THAT YOU CANNOT GO BEYOND THE MINIMUM REQUIRED, BUT IF THE PARKING SPACES IN ACCESS OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY OR NON-RESIDENTIAL ARE PROVIDED AS PUBLICLY SHARED PARKING, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THEM TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC PARKING, BUT IF THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT, IF THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING TO DO THAT, THEY, THEY WILL BE EXEMPT FROM THE PARKING DEVIATION REQUEST. UH, THAT IS REALLY TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC PARKING IN DOWNTOWN. UM, AGAIN, THAT IS TO ENCOURAGE ADDITION OF, UH, PUBLIC PARKING IN DOWNTOWN. UM, THERE WAS AN IDEA LAST TIME THAT STRUCTURED PARKING SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THIS REQUIREMENT. UH, UH, AGAIN, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO STRUCTURED PARKING, WE WANT TO ELIMINATE, UH, FRICTIONS FOR THEM. SO IF THEY'RE DOING STRUCTURED PARKING, WE WON'T NECESSARILY, THEY WILL BE EXEMPT FROM THE, NOT THE, FROM THE MAXIM MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT. UH, AND IT'S ALSO UNCOMMON FOR PEOPLE TO DO STRUCTURED PARKING AND DO THAT MANY MORE. UM, SO WE THINK IT'LL WORK OUT ANYWAY. SO THAT'S REALLY THE GIST OF THE UPDATE, UH, TO ADDRESS THE MAXIMUM PARKING, UM, ALLOWED SITUATION. WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH THE MINIMUM PARKING AND THAT WILL BE A LOT OF WORK AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH THAT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. ALRIGHT, WE'LL START WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO, TIM DUTTON. NILLA, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM FOR, UM, YEAH, SO TEXT MARGARET LUCK DISTRICT THREE, I WILL A HUNDRED PERCENT NOT AGREE WITH THIS. UM, MAXIMUM PARKING FOR A MULTIFAMILY AS [01:45:01] A COUNCIL PERSON, THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT THAT I GET IS PARKING AND IT'S HOW MANY CARS DO, DOES ONE HOUSE NEED TO HAVE? IT'S NOT EVEN MULTIFAMILY, IT'S JUST HOW MANY CARS DOES ONE RESIDENCE NEED? UM, IF YOU DRIVE ANYWHERE ON BARNS, UM, FOREST, WALNUT, JUPITER, PLANO, THAT ENTIRE MULTIFAMILY AREA, THERE ARE CARS AND CARS AND CARS AND CARS. IF THEY COULD PARK ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, THEY WOULD, UM, IN THE STREET, NOT IN THE COMPLEX TEXT. JOE THOMAS JR. DISTRICT SEVEN. SO I, I DON'T KNOW. THIS TO ME IS JUST GETTING OURSELVES INTO ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT 800 CARS PARKED ON THE STREET BECAUSE ONE PARKING SPACE FOR ONE APARTMENT IS, IS CRAZY. UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HAVE EIGHT CARS FOR A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE. IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME. I WOULD MUCH RATHER FOCUS ON THE, UM, COMMERCIAL MAXIMUM PARKING BECAUSE WE KNOW PEOPLE LIKE TO THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE, UM, BUSINESS THAN WHAT THEY DO. AND WE'VE GOT PARKING LOTS THAT DON'T GET ANY ACTION THEN THEY DON'T EVER REPAVE THEM. THEY'RE BECAUSE NO ONE'S USING 'EM. SO WHY WOULD YOU SPEND YOUR OWN MONEY TO REPAVE THEM? SO I TEXT CARISSA BUTTON DISTRICT SIX. I CANNOT GET BEHIND THE MAXIMUM, UM, ON MULTI-FAMILY. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN HAVE TOO MANY PARKING SPOTS IN A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. NO, NO. MAX, UH, PER YOUR SUGGESTION, WE WILL HAVE MINIMUM, WHICH IS THE STATE REQUIRED MINIMUM, BUT WE WON'T HAVE ANY MAXIMUM. I MEAN, I I HONESTLY, I DON'T FEEL LIKE FOR A MULTI-FAMILY YOU CAN HAVE A TERRIBLE AMOUNT OF TOO MUCH PARKING. THAT IS PROBABLY NOT TOO COMMON EITHER, BECAUSE ALSO DEVELOPERS WILL NOT BE PRO, LIKE, THEY'LL DO THEIR STUDY AND DO IT BASED ON THAT. OUR, FOR THIS, OUR GOAL IS TO REALLY HAVE MORE USABLE SPACE, GREEN SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF EXCESS PARKING. THAT'S WHERE OUR GOAL IS. BUT IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ELIMINATE THAT, WE DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE TOO BIG OF A PROBLEM. BUT ALSO TEXT AUGUST 3RD, 2026 WITH THAT, IF THEY ARE REVERTED TO PD, SOMETIMES THAT COULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED A GOOD THING BECAUSE THEN THAT ENABLES COUNCIL TO ASK FOR OTHER ENHANCEMENTS SOMETIMES. SO THAT'S, THAT WAS ALSO WHAT WE WERE THINKING, BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T FEEL TOO STRONGLY ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNSEL? TEXT WORK SESSION AUGUST 3RD, 2026. TEXT DYLAN HEDRICK, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER TRAN. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, I HEARD THAT TWO THINGS THAT, UM, ONE IS THE DOWNTOWN EXAMS, YOU STILL WAIT FOR CITY ATTORNEY TO TEXT JIMMY TRAN, DISTRICT ONE TO PROVIDE YOU THE, THE THE IT STILL REVIEW. RIGHT? WE GOT THE REVIEWED VERSION FROM CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT THAT CLEAR THAT YOU HAVE MM-HMM . THAT ONE. OKAY. THE WOMAN LOOKS FORWARD WITH A NEUTRAL EXPRESSION. REMIND ME AGAIN BECAUSE, UM, I HEARD THAT THE MEETING THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST IS MAY 18. SO IT'S WELL BACK. UH, WHAT IS EXACTLY WE TRIED TO SOLVE THE, THE PROBLEM ABOUT THE PARKING, IT'S JUST NOT ABOUT LIKE MINIMUM PARKING, BUT HOW OUR 4.20 K SECTION ADDRESSES MAXIMUM PARKING. IT IS A VERY CONVOLUTED PROCESS. SO WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT IF YOUR STRUCTURE IS 30,000 SQUARE FOOT, IF YOU'RE NON-RESIDENTIAL, IF YOU HAVE A 30,000 SQUARE FOOT BUSINESS AND YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HUNDRED PARKING SPACES AND YOU WANT TO DO 106 PARKING, YOU HAVE TO GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THAT. UM, SITUATIONS WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE A MORE LAYERED APPROACH WHERE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ADMINISTRATIVE RELIEF WHERE THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO GO IN FRONT OF A BOARD OR CANCEL OR SOMEONE, UH, AS LONG AS THEY'RE SHOWING WHY THEY NEED THAT EXTRA PARKING. BUT BEYOND 30%, THEY WILL HAVE TO, THAT WILL WILL HELP, UM, THE, THE BUILDERS OR THE BUSINESS BUSINESSES THAT WILL STREAMLINE OUR PROCESS. AND THEY HAVE THE GUIDELINE, BUT ALSO NOT JUST, UH, GIVING THEM FREE REIGN ON PARKING FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT, OH, IF YOU NEED YOUR REQUIREMENT AS 100, YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO JUST GO AND BUILD 150 BECAUSE [01:50:01] AGAIN, OUR LAND IS VALUABLE. WE DON'T WANT EVERYTHING TO BE CONCRETE. SO IF YOU'RE GOING BEYOND 130, THEN YOU HAVE TO COME COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. GOT YOU, GOT YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT QUESTION IS THAT, I KNOW THAT THE MULTIFAMILY THAT WAS WE CITY DON'T HAVE THE CONTROL OVER THAT THEY THAT ALLOWED TO HAVE A RIGHT TO BILL, RIGHT? BECAUSE OF THE SPA 40. IS THAT THE RIGHT, IN MOST NON-RESIDENTIAL, NOT IN SINGLE FAMILY. THEY CAN DO IT IN MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICTS. RIGHT. AND MOST NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS EXCEPT FOR INDUSTRIAL. GOT IT. AND THEN THEY WILL NEED, BUT THEY, THEY NEED TO FOLLOW OUT STANDARD THE GDC. GOT YOU. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE. THE ONE THAT GIVE THEM THE GUIDELINE, THAT'S PART OF IT. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS ITEM WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY AT, UH, PLAN COMMISSION HEARING, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL THERE. UH, THIS WON'T BE ON TOMORROW'S AGENDA, BUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA COMING UP SOON SO WE HAVE SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT AND, UM, BEFORE THAT GOES FORWARD. BUT, UH, REALLY IT'S INFORMATIVE. NOT TAKE ANY CONSENSUS OR ANYTHING TONIGHT, BUT WE WILL SEE IT AT A FUTURE. IT'LL MOVE SINCE WE HEARD IT HERE. MOVE FORWARD TO A MAYOR TALKS MAN LISTENS TO A REGULAR SESSION. UPCOMING. WOULD COUNCIL LIKE FOR US TO TAKE OUT THE MULTIFAMILY PIECE WHEN IT COMES BACK TO PUBLIC HEARING? BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE FULL ORDINANCE, UM, AT THAT TIME ATTACHED WITH THE AGENDA COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THE MULTIFAMILY PIECE, THE TWO MEN, ONE MAN COVER HIS MOUTH. THE MAYOR SMILES. REALLY MY THOUGHTS ON THAT IS THAT THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER HAS AN INCENTIVE TO BUILD A QUALITY PRODUCT WITH SUFFICIENT PARKING. THE MAN ON THE LEFT LOOKS TOWARDS THE MAN ON THE RIGHT, UM, ALTHOUGH THEY WON'T BUILD PARKING TO EXCESS BECAUSE THEY'LL WANT TO MAXIMIZE THEIR BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AREA SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE, THE MOST DENSITY IN FOR THEIR PROJECT, GET THE MOST RETURN THERE. SO IT'S KIND OF A KIND OF, I JUST ARGUED FOR BOTH SIDES RIGHT THERE. BUT IT'S A, I LOOK AT THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHICH IS REALLY TAKING A SIGNIFICANT STEP WITH THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND REALLY ALMOST ELIMINATED ALL PARKING REQUIREMENTS. MAYOR HEDRICK AT GARLAND. SOMETHING I, I THINK MAYBE UP FOR DISCUSSION EVEN DOES AT LEAST, AT LEAST IT'S WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SEE WHAT THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY JUST STEPPING BACK AND NOW, UM, THEY'RE VERY MINIMAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND KIND OF LETTING THE MARKET TAKE A LOOK AT IT, WHICH IT'S INTERESTING AND SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE DONE THE SAME THING AS WELL. I THINK AUSTIN MAY BE LIKE THAT AS WELL. BUT DALLAS, ARE THEY LANDLOCKED? THEY HAVE A LOT OF LAND POSSIBLY LEFT TO DEVELOP COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT PRAC, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, A DEVELOPER WOULDN'T PUT IN THE DEVELOPER OF MULTIFAMILY WOULDN'T PUT IN EXCESS SPACES IF HE HAD EXCESS SPACE. HE BUILT ANOTHER BUILDING. SO WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T REALLY EXIST IN PRACTICAL TERMS IS THAT, UH, WELL THIS IS TO ENSURE THERE'S SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THEIR RESIDENTS AND SURE. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MINIMUMS DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, THAT'S MINIMUMS. BUT THIS IS A MAXIMUM WE'RE PUTTING IN. IT'S THE OPPOSITE SIDE. YEAH. AND, AND SO, BUT IS IT TEXT CHRIS, OT, MAYOR, PRO TEM, DISTRICT ONE, ARE WE PUTTING IN A LAW AGAINST SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AND WHAT'S THE POINT? I THINK THAT'S WHAT DEPUTY MAYOR PROTI WAS ARGUING THERE. OKAY. MY, MY, I'M I'M CATCHING UP TO HER. IT'S SLOW AT TIMES, BUT I COULD, I THINK I GOT THERE . SO, UH, OKAY. YEAH. IF I'M A DEVELOPER AND I CAN BUILD ONE MORE UNIT ON MY PROPERTY, WHY WOULD I PAVE THAT OVER AND MAKE EXTRA PARKING SPACES? MM-HMM . I WOULDN'T. SO, OKAY. VERY GOOD. MM-HMM . SO THEN COUNSEL THAT GOES BACK TO THE DISCUSSION OF, UH, DO WE WANNA REMOVE THAT MULTI-FAMILY MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT FROM THIS WHEN IT COMES BACK OR LEAVE IT IN THERE AS IS ASKING FOR CONSENSUS TO REMOVE IT. TEXT CHRIS OTT. MAYOR PRO TEM ATE ON THAT. LOOKS LIKE UNANIMOUS THERE, SO WE'LL TAKE THAT PORTION OUT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNSEL DOWNTOWN EXCEPTIONS STRUCTURED PARKING. ANYTHING ELSE? AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THIS WILL BE COMING TO A FUTURE REGULAR AGENDA SESSION WITH A MULTIFAMILY PORTION REMOVED. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. TEXT MICHAEL J BETS CITY MANAGER. WE'LL MOVE ON NOW. AND THEN TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, BRIEFING ON THE FILM FRIENDLY TEXAS CERTIFICATION PROGRAM. TWO MEN ARE SEATED AT THE LONG DARK BROWN TABLE WITH MONITORS AND MICROPHONES IN FRONT OF A WOODEN WALL WITH THE CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS SEAL TEXT [01:55:01] MICHAEL J BETS CITY MANAGER. TEXT DYLAN HEDRICK MAYOR. THE MAN ON THE LEFT LOOKS FORWARD THEN OCCASIONALLY GLANCES AT HIS MONITOR. THE MAN ON THE RIGHT LOOKS DOWN AT A DOCUMENT, THEN OCCASIONALLY GLANCES UP. A WOMAN SITS AT A TABLE TYPING ON A LAPTOP, THEN SMILES AND GESTURES TOWARDS A DARK BLUE BINDER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, DANA LODGE, DIRECTOR OF THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU. UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE REPORT ON THE FILM FRIENDLY CERTIFICATION BECAUSE IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD, UM, WE WILL BE PRESENTED. THE CITY WILL BE PRESENTED WITH THAT CERTIFICATION TOMORROW, UM, AT THE COUNCIL. SO THOUGHT I BETTER TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT. UM, SO, UH, COUNCIL DID DIRECT STAFF TO GO AFTER THIS CERTIFICATION, I BELIEVE AT THE VERY END OF MAY. UH, WE DID GET IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE RELATIVELY QUICKLY BECAUSE I HAD ACTUALLY ALREADY STARTED THE PROJECT. UM, WE HAD GOTTEN THE, UM, MUSIC FRIENDLY CERTIFICATION, UM, AND THEN RECENTLY GOT THE TOURISM FRIENDLY. SO WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS TIME TO GO FOR THAT TRIFECTA. SO, UM, GLAD TO SAY THAT WE DID GET IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. UM, IT'S A RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS. IT'S, UM, UM, CERTIFIED BY THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION. IT IS A DEPARTMENT OF, UH, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM. AND WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT OFFICE COMING TOMORROW. UM, LIKE I SAID, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, RELATIVELY, UM, UH, SIMPLE PROCESS. UH, THEY ASK THAT A CITY DESIGNATE AN OFFICIAL LIAISON TO BE THAT REPRESENTATIVE TO HANDLE ANY FILM REQUESTS THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE CITY. UM, WE IDENTIFIED THE SPECIAL EVENTS DEPARTMENT. IT'S ALONG THE LINES OF A THIRD PARTY SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME TRIGGERS, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE A HUNDRED PEOPLE KIND OF TRIGGERS, BUT, UM, IT JUST MADE SENSE FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS DEPARTMENT, UM, TO BE THE LIAISON FOR THAT. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN HANDLING IT. UM, WE, UM, ALREADY DID HAVE SOME POLICIES SET, BUT THEY WERE VERY SPECIFIC TO GARLAND AND NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST PRACTICES THAT, UM, THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION HAD, UM, SUGGESTED THAT WE UTILIZE. SO THE SPECIAL EVENTS DEPARTMENT WAS IDENTIFIED. UM, WE HAD TO ATTEND A WORKSHOP TO LEARN ABOUT THOSE BEST PRACTICES. I'D ACTUALLY GOTTEN THE CERTIFICATION, UM, ACROSS THE FINISH LINE FOR THE PREVIOUS CITY THAT I WORKED FOR. SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE THIRD TIME I HAD ATTENDED THAT WORKSHOP. SO I FEEL LIKE I AM VERSED AT, UH, GETTING US, UH, MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND SO WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT AND FROM THAT THEY REALLY BASICALLY LEAN INTO, UM, WHAT ARE THE BEST GUIDELINES, UM, THAT FOLKS SHOULD GO THROUGH, UM, WHEN THEY'RE INTERESTED IN FILMING IN YOUR CITY. UM, AND SO WE PUT THOSE TOGETHER. AGAIN, WE HAD SOME THAT WERE PRETTY LOOSE IN, UM, THE PROCESSES, BUT, UH, WE TIGHTENED THAT UP AND GOT THOSE CREATED AND SENT OFF TO, UM, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FOR APPROVAL. UM, AND THEN BASICALLY WHAT THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION REALLY AND TRULY IS, IS IT'S REALLY A DEPOSITORY OF PHOTOS THAT IDENTIFY LOCATIONS THAT SOMEBODY MAY WANT TO UTILIZE FOR FILMING IN THE FUTURE. AND THIS IS LIKE IN ITS INFANCY OF THE, UM, UM, LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE PUT INTO THE SITE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. WE PUT IN ENOUGH TO GET THE CERTIFICATION, BUT LITERALLY THERE'S HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF LOCATIONS THAT, UM, CAN BE ADDED. AND SO I'VE ASSIGNED THAT TASK TO SOMEBODY TO HELP ME. UM, I GOT THESE PUT IN, BUT JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE TOURISM, UM, PART OF OUR CITY, SO A LOT OF THESE ARE TOURISM RELATED, BUT REALLY FILM LOCATIONS A LOT OF TIMES ARE NOT NECESSARILY TOURISM LOCATIONS. LIKE I GOT A PHONE CALL, UM, FOR A FILM WHO WANTED OUR COURTROOM. UM, SO ANYTHING CAN BE A FILM LOCATION. AND SO WE WILL JUST CONTINUE TO, UM, BUILD THAT INVENTORY THAT REPRESENTS GARLAND, UM, AS, AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. BUT IT'S [02:00:01] REALLY NEVER ENDING ON WHAT COULD BE ADDED, UM, INTO THAT, UM, DEPOSITORY OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO TEXT THE TABLE LIST SITES TO CONSIDER. UM, I JUST THREW IN A FEW PICTURES OF THE SITES THAT, UM, WE DID UPLOAD, UM, ONTO THE TEXAS, UM, FILM FRIENDLY WEBSITE. UM, AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST REALLY AT BEGINNING STAGES AND MANY, MANY MORE CAN BE ADDED. NEW SLIDE FILM AWARENESS. AND AGAIN, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF JUST THE MARKETING OF IT AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS FOR, UM, FOLKS TO DO, UM, TO PRODUCE FILMS HERE. THESE ARE JUST A SAMPLING OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT AWARENESS IS OUT THERE. UM, VISIT GARLAND HAS ACTUALLY CREATED A LANDING PAGE. IT'S HIDDEN RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE I, UM, WANTED TO TWEAK A COUPLE OF THINGS BEFORE IT WENT PUBLIC, BUT THE CITY OF GARLAND'S WEBSITE, WE'LL HAVE THAT LANDING PAGE. IT WILL CARRY A LOT OF THE, UH, LINKS THAT THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION'S WEBSITE DOES, WHICH INCLUDES DIFFERENT WAYS FOR, UH, FILM PRODUCERS TO GET, RECEIVE INCENTIVES AND, AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. OUTREACH TO, THERE'S THREE FILM COMMISSIONS IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX. THEY ALL PULL THEIR INFORMATION FROM THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION AS WELL. SO IF YOU GO TO THE DALLAS, UM, FILM COMMISSION'S, UM, WEBSITE AND YOU WANNA SEE WHAT LOCATIONS ARE IN THE NORTH TEXAS REGION, GARLAND COMES UP UNDER THE DALLAS FILM COMMISSION, BUT THEY'RE PULLING THE PICTURES OFF OF THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION. SO IT REALLY IS, THAT'S, THAT'S THE HUB AND EVERYTHING KIND OF LINKS BACK TO THAT, BUT JUST REALLY JUST HONEST OUTREACH TO THOSE FOLKS THAT RUN THOSE, UM, FILM COMMISSIONS THAT LETTING THEM KNOW THAT, HEY, WE'RE HERE AS A PARTNER, WHAT CAN WE DO? WE'VE ACTUALLY, I'VE HAD A LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DALLAS FILM COMMISSION, UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF THEY THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY'LL REACH OUT. AND WE JUST NEED TO ALWAYS FOSTER THAT RELATIONSHIP AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY REMEMBER WE'RE HERE JUST LIKE MARKETING OUR CITY MARKETING VISIT GARLAND, UH, DOES THAT EVERY DAY. UM, THIS IS JUST REALLY ALONG THE SAME LINES OF THAT. AND AGAIN, JUST SOME VERY, UM, SCRATCH THE SURFACE KIND OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN DO OUTREACH TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT, UH, THIS IS SERIOUS TO US AND THAT WE, UM, INVITE AND OPEN, UM, PRODUCERS TO CREATE FILMS HERE. AND THEN ANOTHER THING IS, ANYBODY CAN ACTUALLY LIST THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY ON THAT SITE AS WELL. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST A CITY OF GARLAND PUBLIC PROPERTY. UM, BUT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER NEEDS TO LIST IT THEMSELVES. THEY HAVE TO AGREE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THEY WOULD WELCOME SOMEBODY TO FILM IN THEIR, UM, PRIVATE LOCATION. SO, I MEAN, I CAN SEE JIMMY WALLACE GUITARS OR JUST TO, YOU KNOW, NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS, UM, PRIVATE PROPERTY BUSINESSES, UM, LIST. SO WE'LL BE DOING SOME OUTREACH TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT, UM, UM, LOCATION LIST EVEN MORE ROBUST. IT CAME FROM TEAKS AND BANKHEAD FILM FESTIVALS. AND THEN JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT THE FILMS ARE IMPORTANT TO GARLAND AS WELL. UM, AMY OF COURSE CREATED TWO DIFFERENT FILM FESTIVALS SINCE SHE'S, UM, BEEN WORKING FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND IN 23. SHE ESTABLISHED IT CAME FROM TEXAS, UM, FILM FESTIVAL. THAT ONE REALLY FOCUSES ON, UM, FILMS THAT HAVE A TEXAS CONNECTION. AND THEN IN 24 DID THE BANK HEAD FILM FESTIVAL. THESE ARE BOTH ANNUAL EVENTS AND UH, THE BANK HEAD IS REALLY FOCUSED MORE ON YOUNG FILMMAKERS. SO JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO US AS WELL. AND THEN, UM, AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE COMING TOMORROW TO PRESENT THE MAYOR WITH A CERTIFICATION AND, UM, FOR THE CITY. AND, UM, EXCITED THAT WE GOT IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE. ALRIGHT. START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. SO WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR A BUSINESS OR ENTITY IN GARLAND TO GET ON THAT LIST? TEXT MARGARET LUCK. I THINK THEY, [02:05:01] THEY HAVE SOME THINGS THAT THEY AGREE THAT THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO FILMING. UM, AND SO DANA ADJUSTERS POINTS UP, BUT THEY CAN LIST RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A, THERE'S ONE PRIVATE, UH, HOME LISTED ON THERE. UM, SO THEY'RE BASICALLY STATING THAT IF A FILMMAKER WANTED TO UTILIZE THEIR BUILDING, THAT THEY ARE, ARE ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN. BUT IT DOESN'T REGULATE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THEY WOULD PAY THAT PRIVATE HOME OR NOT PAY THAT PRIVATE HOME BECAUSE THAT, THAT ENDS UP BEING BETWEEN THAT FILMMAKER AND THAT PRIVATE. RIGHT. SO THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TEXAS DATABASE TO BE ON THAT LIST. YES. THEY DON'T GO THROUGH US, CORRECT. FOR US TO PLACE THEM ON OUR LIST. CORRECT. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO TEXT CHRIS OTT, MARGARET LUCK GESTURES, CARISSA SUTTON LOOKS AT COMPUTER. I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW WE CAN USE THE GARLAND FILM COLLECTIVE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT IN THESE OUTREACH EFFORTS. I MEAN, UH, WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT BUDGET THIS YEAR, SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT CAN BE ALLOCATED TO THIS, BUT IF WE HAVE AN, YOU KNOW, A GARLAND ENTITY THAT'S WILLING TO SUPPORT, UM, MAYBE THEY CAN TEXT CHRIS OTT, MAYBE WE CAN CREATE A MICROSOFT FORM APPLICATION THAT WOULD KIND OF TAKE PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THEN SHOOT 'EM OVER TO FILL OUT THAT LISTING AREA. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S, THERE'S GOTTA BE A WAY TO USE THEIR, YOU KNOW, WILLINGNESS TO VOLUNTEER TIME AND, UM, AND CREATE A RELATIONSHIP THAT WILL INCREASE THAT LIST FOR US. YEAH, I MEAN, I AM OPEN TO ALL OUTREACH IDEAS POSSIBLE, AND IT IS GONNA TAKE MULTIPLE PEOPLE TO GET THAT WORD OUT AND ESPECIALLY FOR SOME PRIVATE ENTITIES. SO YES, I WOULD LOVE AND IF, IF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST A REALLY SIMPLE LITTLE MARKETING PIECE THAT THEY CAN SHARE AND HELP PUSH OUT, THAT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING. OKAY, GREAT. SO IT'S EASY. I GOT THE, I GOT THE FOLKS THAT CAN DO THAT. FANTASTIC. I CAN'T CREATE ANYTHING, BUT I CAN ASK FOR IT TO BE CREATED. . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DID FOR THIS. UM, I, I JUST THINK THAT MOVIES MADE HERE IS REALLY COOL. , UM, I, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MUSIC MADE HERE. YEAH. MOVIES MADE HERE. THAT'S, IT'S JUST A A NO BRAINER. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. YES. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. YEAH, SO, UM, GOT THE TRIFECTA, GOT THE TRIFECTA, STARTED WORKING ON THIS BEFORE YOU TOLD US YOU WERE WORKING ON THIS. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO TELL US? IS THE QUAD FECTA OUT THERE SOMEWHERE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU, BUT THE ATTORNEY MAY STOP ME. . HE JUST SAID GO AHEAD, . HE JUST GAVE, HE JUST GAVE IT AWAY. JOE THOMAS JR. SPEAKS SO, UH, UM, ABOUT GETTING OTHER PLACES ON THE LIST THAT COULD, THAT COULD BE ALL THE WAY PRIVATE HOMES. IF I WANTED 'EM TO USE MY SWIMMING POOL TO MY BACKYARD TO FILM A SCENE, THEY COULD, I COULD SIGN UP MY HOUSE AND MM-HMM . BUT, BUT ANYBODY COULD DO THAT. I DON'T THINK MY HOUSE IS PROBABLY FANCY ENOUGH FOR SOMEBODY TO WANNA DO THAT, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PRETTY NICE PLACES HERE. AND, BUT, AND SO ARE YOU TAKING KIND OF ANY AND ALL SUGGESTIONS? I'M, OR, OR WOULD, I MEAN, I WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE ANY AND ALL SUGGESTIONS. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO THE OUTREACH THAT LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER ALLOWING FILMING TO HAPPEN AT YOUR LOCATION, THERE'S NO CHARGE FOR IT TO BE LISTED. I MEAN, THE HOUSE THAT'S LISTED ON THERE RIGHT NOW IS REALLY LIKE AN AIRBNB HOUSE AND I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF MAYBE DANA HOLDS HAND OPEN HOPING, YOU KNOW, TO GET SOME RENTALS. I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT LISTING BECAUSE WHEN I WENT ON THERE I'M LIKE, WHOA, I DIDN'T PUT THIS ONE ON THERE. GAIN, NO OPENS HANDS. UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN, I CAN SEE A LOT OF REALLY WONDERFUL, UNIQUE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE IN GARLAND THAT WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE. ALMOST MORE SO THAN PRIVATE HOMES. BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PRIVATE HOMES. I JUST THINK WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY COOL, UNIQUE RESTAURANTS AND, AND BUSINESSES THAT I THINK WOULD MAKE A GREAT LOCATION. OKAY. SO IT COULD BE VIRTUALLY ANY PLACE IN THE CITY. IT REALLY, I LITERALLY, I, I HAD SOMEBODY WHO SAY, I, I JUST WANT YOUR COURTROOM. I'M NOT GONNA SHOW THE GARLAND LOGO OR ANYTHING. I NEED A COURTROOM SAYING, SO JUST HAVE THIS WORK SESSION. IT COULD BE, I MEAN IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IT'S JUST WHATEVER WE WANNA DECIDE THAT WE WANNA LET THEM USE, BUT PRIVATELY AS WELL. OKAY. WELL VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT [02:10:01] THEN. CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING THIS DONE. THANK YOU, DANA. OF COURSE. YES, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TIM. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I LIKE IT'S ALL PILE ON THE KUDOS ALSO. THANK YOU DANA, FOR BRINGING THIS, THIS IS VERY INTERESTING. THIS IS, UM, THE BRIEFING THAT I HAD ASKED FOR, UH, UH, TEXT JOE THOMAS JR. YOU DIDN'T DISAPPOINT. THIS IS A, THIS IS VERY INTERESTING. I MEAN, YEARS AGO THEY USED TO FILM THINGS LIKE WALKER, TEXAS RANGER HERE, AND I KNOW INCENTIVES CHANGED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. JOE DOM IS JR. LOOKS A TABLET. MARGARET LUCK WATCHES, UM, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE BACK IN THE PRODUCTION BUSINESS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY COOL. AND THANK YOU FOR WALKING US THROUGH, UM, HOW TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GET ADDED TO THE DATABASE. 'CAUSE I CAN THINK OF A LOT OF PLACES THAT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING FOR, UH, FOR, UH, PRODUCERS. UM, THOUGHTS ON EVENTUAL GOALS FOR THE PROGRAM AND THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT ARE ALREADY, UH, IN THIS PROGRAM AND, UH, UH, WHAT ARE SOME STRETCH GOALS THAT WE COULD BE HAVING FOR THE FUTURE? WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AN EPISODE OF YELLOWSTONE DANA LODGE SMILES, LOOKS RIGHT. TON RANCH OR ANY OTHER THINGS WE CAN THINK OF? YEAH, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY IF WE GOT IT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD JUST BE ONE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S WHEN THE ECONOMIC IMPACT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR YOUR CITY. BUT, UM, I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT THERE. IT'S NEVER ENDING. IT'S LIKE ANY MARKETING OF ANYTHING. IT NEVER ENDS. YOU JUST HAVE TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, TELLING THE STORY THAT, THAT WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN THAT REGARD. UM, BUT YEAH, UM, GETTING SOMETHING THAT'S LONG TERM THAT'S A MAJOR HIT WOULD BE, WOULD BE FANTASTIC. SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FIND THE NUMBER FOR, UH, FOR TAYLOR SHERIDAN, IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? AND START, UH, START, UH, AN OUTREACH PROGRAM. I KNOW WHERE HE HANGS OUT. OKAY. . ALL RIGHT. AWESOME. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. APPRECIATE IT, MAYOR. THANKS SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO, TIM DUTTON. UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT, UM, IF ANY, ARE THE FINANCIAL, UM, ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROGRAM, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING OUTREACH, UM, IS THAT GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR TEAM'S WORK THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING? I MEAN, WE HAVE MARKETING EXPERTS AND THIS IS PART OF MARKETING OUR CITY, SO I I THINK IT'S THEIR PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. I DON'T THINK THIS NECESSARILY TAKES THEM AWAY FROM ANYTHING. AND I THINK MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, DIGITALLY OR EMAILING. I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THIS TAKING A BIG HIT TO OUR BUDGET AS FAR AS GETTING THE WORD OUT. LODGE RESTS HANDS ON FOLDER. I MEAN, WE HAVE TWO BILLBOARDS ON FIRE. WILL, I MIGHT EVEN DO THOSE. I MEAN, WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS, I THINK, TO GET THE WORD OUT AND IT NOT NECESSARILY COST US, UM, ADDITIONAL MONEY. I MEAN, WE PAY FOR THOSE BILLBOARDS, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY PAID FOR. UM, BUT LODGE MOVES HANDS TO FOLDER. YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK RESOURCE WISE MARKETING IS WHAT OUR TEAM IS, IS HIRED TO DO. UM, AND DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S THE WAY FOUR PEOPLE SIT AT A CURVE TABLE TO LIMIT WHAT TYPES OF PRIVATE PROPERTIES GOT? 'CAUSE I THINK MARKETING TO AIRBNBS IS GONNA BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE THAT WE'RE NOT READY FOR . I ACTUALLY HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE TEXAS FILM COMMISSION WHEN I SAW THAT LISTED, AND BASICALLY THERE ISN'T, 'CAUSE WE, WE'VE ALL HEARD THE COMPLAINTS OF, UH, MARGARET'S DISTRICT, AND I COULD SEE THAT BECOMING A PRODUCTION MECCA OF THE WORLD. AND, UH, , GOOD LUCK TO YOU, MY FRIEND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, DANA. COURSE. GOOD TO SEE YOU AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS. AND DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEAM. IT WORKS SO HARD FOR THIS. AND YOU, WE HAVE TOURISM FRIENDLY AND MUSICS FRIENDLY UHHUH AND KNOW THIS IS THE FILM FRIENDLY YES. APPLICATION. AWESOME. QUICK QUESTION. UH, FIRST THING I SEE THE FIVE WHEEL GOT PARK IN THERE IS A DISTRICT ONE. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING, . YOU'RE WELCOME. APPRECIATE THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME. UM, LET'S SAY IF WE ATTRACT A LOT OF FILM, FILM AND THEN PEOPLE, WHATEVER THE, THE FILM INDUSTRY COME HERE AND DO THE FILMING AND OUR RESIDENTS ARE EXCITED TO COME AND SEE IT, AND MAYBE LARGE CROWD. SO WHO WILL PAY FOR THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL? SO IN THE POLICIES, WE DO HAVE SOME PROVISIONS FOR IF POLICE ARE NEEDED OR BARRICADES. AND THERE THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WOULD BE PASSED ON TO THE FILMMAKER. UM, FOR THE MOST PART, THEY, WHAT I, WE HAVE NOT HAD A LOT OF, [02:15:01] UM, INQUIRIES IN THE SIX AND A HALF YEARS THAT I'VE WORKED HERE. WE'VE PROBABLY HAD 10 OR SO IN THE SIX AND A HALF YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. MOST OF THE TIME THEY WANNA BE UNDERCOVER. LIKE THEY DON'T NEED ANYBODY TO REALLY KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN TOWN FILMING. THEY'RE TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT UNDER THE RADAR. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO HIT SOME KIND OF BIG SHOW LIKE YELLOWSTONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SITUATION LIKE THAT. BUT REGARDLESS, WE HAVE PROVISIONS IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS BECAUSE, UM, BLOCKING STREETS MAY, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S A BIG PRODUCTION. THEY JUST NEED AN EMPTY STREET. AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO BARRICADES. AND WE HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE THAT PASSES THAT COST ON IT'S VERY MINIMAL. GOT YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE THE ADVERTISING PROMOTINGS. THAT WAY WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR, OF COURSE, COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND, AND EVERYONE THAT IF THEY WANT TO BE ON THAT LIST. UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, TEXT JOE THOMAS, JR. I WOULD SAY AGAIN, GOOD JOB AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE ADDING PLACES TO THERE. I KNOW ANYTHING FROM PUBLIC POOLS TO PARKS, ALL THOSE COULD BE GOOD, GREAT LOCATIONS TO FULFILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVE ON, MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT. THIS IS FROM, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM OTT, WHO'S CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. AND THIS WILL INCLUDE A FIRE AND EMS STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE UPDATE, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU COUNSEL. TONIGHT WE HAVE A, UH, WE HAVE A TWOFER. WE HAVE A FOUR MORE PEOPLE SHOWN JOE THOMAS JR. YAWNS REPORT. AND IT'S, UH, THE, UH, OUR BELIEVE THE THE FIRST THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IS THE NINE MONTH SPECIAL SESSION THAT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR THE FIRE AND EMS. AND, UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN THIS REPORT, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE, THE THREE PRINCIPLES THAT GUIDED US ON THAT COMMITTEE FROM THE VERY FIRST MEETING WAS, ONE, MAINTAINING EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. TWO, IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS, AND THREE, ENSURING LONG-TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY FOR GARLAND'S TAXPAYERS. AND WITH THAT I'D, I'D LIKE TO HAND THIS OVER TO MS. C GARDNER TO WALK US THROUGH THE BROAD STROKES OF IT. HELLO, MISTY GARDNER. I'M THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. I, SO FOR TONIGHT, NO ACTION IS BEING REQUESTED, UM, FROM COUNSEL, BUT WE ARE JUST PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE WORK THAT WAS DONE AND COMPLETED BY THE FIRE. AND, UH, EMS TEXT, WHAT THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED COMMITTEE, STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE, SORRY, THERE A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. SO WITH THAT, UM, TEXT ONE PACKAGE FORWARDED TO COUNSEL, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME UP ENDED UP BEING A VERY INNOVATIVE SOLUTION. UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE WORKED VERY HARD ON, AND I THINK THAT OVERALL, FOR THE MOST PART, SEVERAL FOLKS DID NOT BELIEVE IT WAS GONNA BE POSSIBLE. SO, UM, RIGHT UP FRONT, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AND KUDOS TO THAT COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY WORKED HARD TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE. SO IT STARTS WITH A, UM, A SHIFT TO FOUR WORK SHIFTS IN A, B, C, AND D, UM, FROM THE THREE SHIFTS. AND WITH THAT MOVE, IT TAKES THE HOUR OR THE YEARLY SHIFTS FOR A FIREFIGHTER FROM ONE 20 TO 1 0 3. SO IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE 42 HOUR, UH, WORK WEEK THAT THEY ORIGINALLY REQUESTED, BUT IT IS GETTING CLOSE BECAUSE WITH THE 18 DEBIT DAYS A YEAR, UM, THOSE ARE ASSIGNED NON OVERTIME DAYS. BUT THAT DOES A, ALLOW, IT AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT A 50 HOUR WORK WEEK. UH, IT WILL REQUIRE A RESTRUCTURE AND RANK, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE WOULD RETIRE OR ELIMINATE THE, UH, LIEUTENANT POSITION. AND, UH, THOSE POSITIONS WOULD BE RECLASSIFIED TO CAPTAINS, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR 14 CAPTAINS, UM, ON A SHIFT, AND THEN ADDS NON FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS. COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED. SLIDE FOUR. BOTTOM RIGHT IN THE, UM, I GUESS TWO RULE CHANGES THAT OCCUR WITH THE MODEL IS A 28 DAY FLSA CYCLE. AND THAT ENDS OR ELIMINATES THE REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR FOUR HOURS OF MANDATORY OVERTIME. UH, THAT COMES UP WITH THE 56 HOUR WORK WEEK, AND THEN THE PAY SCALES WOULD BE ADJUSTED SO THAT NO ANNUAL CHANGE OCCURS FOR THOSE FIREFIGHTERS AS FAR AS PAY GOES. SO GUARDRAILS, UH, CITY MANAGER BETS, UH, WAS ABLE TO COME UP WITH GUARDRAILS AND CONTINGENCIES THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS [02:20:01] PLAN TO BECOME AFFORDABLE, BUT ALSO SUSTAINABLE, UM, IF IT IS POSSIBLE. SO, UH, FIRST OF ALL IS THE OVERTIME CAP. SO THE OVERTIME WOULD BE CAPPED AT THE CURRENT BUDGETED AMOUNT OR THE NEW BUDGETED AMOUNT OF 2.5 MILLION, UH, NOT TO BE EXCEEDED BY MORE THAN 10%. IF IT IS EXCEEDED BY MORE THAN 10%, THEN THE SCHEDULE WOULD START A, UH, IT WOULD TRIGGER A 90 DAY RE REVERSION BACK TO THE, UH, 24 48 SCHEDULE THAT THEY'RE ON NOW. UM, OF COURSE, DECLARED EMERGENCIES, UM, AND DISASTERS THAT REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL OVERTIME THAT CAN'T REALLY BE PLANNED FOR, THAT DOES NOT, UM, COUNT TOWARD THAT NUMBER. THE GUARDRAILS AND CONTINGENCY SLIDE REMAINS THE, ALSO WITH THE, UH, 18 DEBIT DAYS, UM, WITH THIS, THE FIREFIGHTER ASSOCIATION, THE FIREFIGHTERS AGREED THEY WOULD NOT REQUEST A REDUCTION IN THOSE DEBIT DAYS, UM, UNTIL THE TAX BASE COULD ACTUALLY GROW TO ABSORB THE COST OF REDUCING THOSE, UH, TOWARD THAT 42 HOUR, THAT 2 42 HOUR, UH, WORK WEEK SHIFT. UM, THE TWO CONTINGENCIES. SO FIRST OF ALL, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT WOULD BE THE NOVEMBER, UH, TAX RATE SWAP ELECTION. IF WE DON'T GET A YES FOR THAT IN, IN CITY MANAGER BET'S WORDS, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO CONSIDER, UH, OR CONTINUE TO CONSIDER IT. THE OTHER WOULD BE, UH, THE CONTINGENCY OF A LEGISLATURE. SO WE ARE AT THEIR MERCY, UH, IN THAT IF THEY CREATE ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE, UH, CAPACITY LIMITS, OR THEY CHANGE OR LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TRANSFERS BETWEEN FUNDS, THEN THAT ALSO MAKES THIS NOT NOT POSSIBLE. SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ACTION, UH, BY COUNSEL. NOW, IF WE GET PAST THOSE TWO CONTINGENCIES, THEN, THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THAT, UH, CITY MANAGER BETS, UH, CHIEF LEE, AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, FIRE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT BILL CRUZ WOULD BRING A DETAILED PRESENTATION WITH PLAN TO MOVE, UH, THE SCHEDULE FORWARD. AND THEN A RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL, BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A REQUIRED ADJUSTMENT TO AN ORDINANCE TEXT WHERE IT GOES FROM HERE. UH, IF ALL GOES WELL AND, UH, THINGS WORK AS WE HOPE THEY DO, THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THAT THE FI THE NINE, SORRY, THE NINE NEW FIREFIGHTERS WOULD START, UH, THEIR ACADEMY CLASS IN LATE FEBRUARY AND THEN HIT THE STREETS FOR WORK IN JULY WITH A TARGETED SCHEDULED DATE TO START JANUARY 1ST, 2028. UH, THAT ALLOWS TIME FOR PROMOTIONS, UH, CHANGES IN GROUP ASSIGNMENTS, OR, UH, PAGE SIX, BOTTOM RIGHT AND LEAVE SELECTIONS. AND THEN WE WOULD START OVERSIGHT OF THE OVERTIME IMMEDIATELY, UM, TO MAINTAIN THAT CONTROL. AND THEN AL ALSO THE, EM, JUST TO CLOSE THE LOOP, THE EMS DELIVERY MODEL, ORIGINALLY, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND DELIVERY MODEL, SERVICE CHANGES, THOSE THINGS. ALL THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE. AND THEN THE ONLY EMS CHANGE IN THE PACKAGE, OR THE PLAN IS REMOVING THE DEDICATED DRIVER POSITIONS FROM THE AMBULANCE, WHICH IS ENTIRELY AN INTERNAL OPERATIONAL CHANGE. UM, NO SERVICE CHANGE, UH, WOULD BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC TEXT TO COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT, I WILL STOP AND ALLOW QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ADDITIONS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE AWARE OF IS THAT THIS DOESN'T TECHNICALLY BE AT THE, AT THE MOMENT, CERTAINLY DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY COUNCIL ACTION. AND EVEN, UH, ONCE THE LEGISLATURE ACTS AND THE ELECTION IS OVER, THE COUNCIL ACTION THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED WOULD BE RELATED TO THE CIVIL SERVICE ORDINANCE TO CHANGE THE POSITIONS. THE REST OF THE MATTERS CONTAIN THERE, SINCE THEY'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT CHANGING THE WAY WE PROVIDE EMS SERVICES, UH, WOULD BE MOSTLY OPERATIONAL. THAT SAID, UH, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL, UH, BEFORE WE DID THIS, AND AFTER THE LEGISLATURE MEETS AND SHOW THE, ALL THE, THE DETAILS AND HAVE THE ASSOCIATION HERE, THE ASSOCIATION HAS AGREED TO MAKE COMMITMENTS TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY WOULD NOT SEEK TO REDUCE, UH, THE DEBIT DAYS. THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THIS PLAN IN PLACE AND THEN THEY COME BACK THE NEXT YEAR AND SAY, WELL, OKAY, NOW WE HAVE 18 DEBIT DAYS. GIVE US 14 DEBIT DAYS. AND THEN TWO YEARS LATER COME BACK AND SAY, GIVE US FIVE DEBIT DAYS, AND THEN COME BACK AND TWO YEARS AFTER THAT, SAY, GIVE US NO DEBIT DAYS. AND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, UH, THE ASSOCIATION, UH, I THINK UNDERSTOOD THE POINT THAT, THAT THIS IS PROBABLY AS FAR AS THE CITY COULD GO. AND THE REASON THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO US FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE IS THE OVERTIME, UH, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SPENDING THREE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SLIDE SAID, OVER 3 MILLION, THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN OVERTIME. AND SO IF WE CAN BRING THE OVERTIME DOWN TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, WE'LL SAVE A [02:25:01] MILLION DOLLARS IN OVERTIME. THAT MAKES SENSE. UH, THE, THE CHIEF AND THE ASSOCIATION HAVE VOWED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE OVERTIME AND TRY TO BRING, BRING IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER. AND WHAT I'VE TOLD THE ASSOCIATION IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET THE OVERTIME UNDER CONTROL, UH, IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO HELP FUNDING WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE FUTURE. AND SO THAT'S A COMMITMENT THAT THEY MADE AND THEY'RE AWARE OF. UH, AND SO IF THE VOTERS DON'T APPROVE OR IF THE VOTERS APPROVE AND THE LEGISLATURE DOES SOMETHING TO FURTHER CONSTRAIN OUR REVENUE, IT WOULDN'T REALLY BE A REASON FOR A LENGTHY PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL. THAT'S WHY WE'VE DECIDED TO JUST SHOW YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WHEN WE FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE TO PRESUPPOSE THAT EVERYTHING WILL LINE UP THE WAY THAT WE HOPE IT DOES. UH, BUT WHEN IT DOES, WE'LL BE BACK BETS LOOKS. MAYOR HEDRICK, LIENS. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS. YEAH. SO, UM, WHEN WE OPENED STATION SIX, UH, THAT BRAND NEW STATION, UH, AS I RECALL, THERE WAS A SLEEPING AREA FOR THE PERSON WHO WAS ON THE SHIFT. AND THEN THERE WAS THREE LOCKERS, ONE FOR EACH SHIFT. AND SO IF WE GO TO FOUR SHIFTS, HOW WILL WE ACCOMMODATE THAT FOURTH SHIFTS LOCKERS? WE'LL, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT OPERATIONALLY, BUT WE RAISED THIS ISSUE WITH THE ASSOCIATION AND THEY COMMITTED TO MAKE IT WORK. THEY UNDERSTAND THEY ONLY HAVE THREE REFRIGERATORS AND THREE SETS OF LOCKERS, BUT THAT THEY WOULD, UH, FIND A WAY TO ROTATE THEM SO THAT THEY WOULD WORK WITH FOUR SHIFTS. AND THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THE COST OF ADDING FOUR SETS OF LOCKERS AND FOUR SETS OF, OF REFRIGERATORS AND OTHER THINGS WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COULD AFFORD AT THIS TIME. OKAY. AND ARE WE, SO IS THAT GONNA BE THE SAME MODEL IN, IN ONE IN SEVEN THAT ARE OPENING THIS FALL? YES, SIR. WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE, THE STATION DESIGNS THE WAY THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IF, IF ULTIMATELY THEY GOT TO A POINT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN, UH, IF THE, UH, PLAN IS SUCCESSFUL AND GROW REVENUES, AND THEY GOT TO A POINT WHERE THE CITY COULD AFFORD A DIFFERENT SOLUTION AND WE HAD FOUR ACTUAL SHIFTS INSTEAD OF ALL THE DEBIT DAYS, THEN, AND WE CERTAINLY COULD LOOK AT THAT AT THAT TIME, BUT, BUT THE PLAN CURRENTLY IS TO LEAVE THE STATION DESIGNS THE WAY THEY'RE, OKAY. VERY GOOD. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANKS SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE LEMONADE OUT OF WHAT'S SORT OUT AS LEMONS, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE, UH, TIMEFRAME BY WHICH THIS, UH, COMMITTEE WORKED ON A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION, UH, TO BRING US TO WHERE WE ARE PRESENTLY. UH, WOULD YOU GO BACK AND JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT WHAT DEBIT DAYS ARE? I WILL DO MY BEST, BUT LUCKILY CHIEF, CHIEF LEE IS HERE IN CASE I, I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT. SO, DEBIT DAYS ARE ESSENTIALLY DAYS THAT WHEN THEY SCHEDULE THE, THE FOUR, THE FOUR SHIFTS, A, B, C, AND D EVERY MONTH THEY WOULD HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL SHIFT, AND THEN EVERY OTHER MONTH IT WOULD BE TWO ADDITIONAL SHIFTS. SO FOR A, A MONTH LONG, THEY WOULD EITHER HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL SHIFT OR TWO ADDITIONAL SHIFT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE, WHAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY HAVE ON THE REOCCURRING EVERY FOUR SHIFTS. SO FOR FOUR DAYS, A, B, C, AND D SHIFT, THEY WORK EVERY FOURTH DAY. SO IT WOULD ADD ONE SHIFT WITHIN A MONTH, AND THEN EVERY OTHER MONTH IT WOULD ADD TWO SHIFTS WITHIN A MONTH. THEY STILL GET PAID FOR THEM, IT'S JUST THAT IT GIVES THEM ADDITIONAL SHIFTS PER MONTH ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST THEIR ASSIGNED A, B, C, OR D. WHAT DOES THAT DO IN RELATION TO, BECAUSE ONE OF THE SITUATIONS THAT WE WERE TALKING, UH, IT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THEM GETTING THEIR PROPER REST AND GETTING IN. HOW DID THAT ENHANCE HER? SO WHAT THEY WORKED OUT IS THAT IN, IF THEY HAD SAY A C SHIFT, THEY WOULD WORK IT SO THAT WHEN THEY, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR TWO DAYS REST AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR DEBIT DAY AND THEN COME BACK AND WORK THEIR ACTUAL SHIFT. SO THEY, UH, AMONGST THEMSELVES FIGURED OUT THE BEST TIMELINE ON WHERE THAT SHIFT WOULD LIE WITHIN THEIR FOUR SHIFTS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD, UH, MR. MOORE WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, ASSOCIATION AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE IDEA WAS THAT BY HAVING THE FOUR SHIFT, THERE WERE TIMES WHEN THEY WOULD GET ONE DAY ON THREE DAYS OFF SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO RECHARGE SOME OF THE TIME SO THAT IT WASN'T THIS CONSTANT DRAIN WHERE THEY, ESPECIALLY AT THE BUSY STATION WHERE TWO DAYS WAS NOT SUFFICIENT TIME, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAD WORKED A FULL 24 HOURS AND THE STATION WAS SO BUSY, THEY HAD NO DOWNTIME OR NO REST TIME, BECAUSE THEY, THEY RECOGNIZED THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT THEY MADE WAS IF, IF THOSE, WHEN THOSE DAYS HAPPEN, THEN THEY DRIVE HOME AND THEN THEY HAVE A CHOICE, DO I ENJOY MY TIME OFF OR DO I ACTUALLY TRY AND CATCH UP ON MY SLEEP SO I'M NOT SICK AND ABLE TO COME BACK TO WORK? AND SO THE, [02:30:01] THE THIRD, UH, DAY OFF THAT THEY WOULD HAVE FAIRLY, UH, FREQUENTLY EXCEPT FOR THE DEBIT DAYS, WOULD GIVE THEM THAT CHANCE TO RECHARGE AND TO CATCH UP ON THE REST THAT THEY NEED TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND, AND IT WAS A, IT WAS A PRETTY INNOVATIVE SOLUTION THAT THE FIRE ASSOCIATION AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, WORKED WITH US ON TO MAKE SURE WE COULD DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, BOTH SUSTAINABLE FOR THE CITY FINANCIALLY ON THE ONE HAND, AND TRY TO OFFER THEM SOME OF WHAT THEY NEEDED TO, UH, TO GET, UH, THE REST THAT WAS NECESSARY SO THEY COULD CATCH UP AND NOT HAVE SOME OF THE ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS THAT THEY, UH, UH, MENTIONED DURING THOSE HEARINGS. PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT QUESTION TO BE ASKED WOULD BE, AND FOR A NO VOTE, A NO VOTE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WELL, IF THERE'S A NO VOTE, THEN THE, THE RESIDENTS, UH, SAY NO TO THE NINE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS, AND WE STAY THE WAY WE ARE AND, UH, WE DON'T GET THE ADDITIONAL NINE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE WAY WE CAN. THE FUNDING'S NOT THERE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AT THE MOMENT. AND, UH, THE ASSOCIATION, I THINK WAS PRETTY CANDID IN THEIR RECOGNITION OF THAT, THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN AS A CITY. AND IF THE VOTERS DON'T, UH, DON'T APPROVE THE, THE ELECTION, UH, THE RIGHT SWAP ELECTION, THEN THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THEY'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH THE SITUATION THAT THEY HAVE AND THE, THE EFFECTS THAT IT, UH, CAUSES THEM. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I ASK THAT. 'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ARE HAVING PRESENTLY THESE TOWN HALLS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE NECESSITY FOR THE VOTE THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE IT. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, SIR. MAYOR PRO, TIM MOT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ONE OF THE THINGS TO MENTION ALSO IS THAT THE, THIS GETS US ON A PATHWAY TO GET THEM TO A TEXT JOE THOMAS JR. TO A, UM, OH, IT'D BE A 24 72 SCHEDULE. AND, UH, THE DEBIT DAYS ALLOWS US TO START THAT, UH, THAT PATH. AND AS OUR FINANCES START TO, UH, IMPROVE, THEN, UH, THOSE, UH, DEBIT DAYS CAN START TO BE WINNOWED DOWN. BUT IT, UH, WHAT IT INITIALLY GOES FROM IS A, I BELIEVE IT'S A 56 HOUR WORK WEEK. IT TAKES IT DOWN TO A 52 HOUR WORK WEEK, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES IN THE FIRST WAVE OF THIS. SO IT IS HELPFUL FOR THEM. TEXT CHRIS OTT CORE CARISSA BUTTON. UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY, UH, UH, WAS VERY THANKFUL FOR THE, UH, FOR THE WORK OF THE, THE RANK AND FILE FOR, UH, FOR THE CHIEF, FOR THE, HIS COMMAND STAFF, FOR EVERYBODY THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS ALL IN ON FIGURING OUT A WAY TO DO THIS IN A VERY INNOVATIVE WAY. I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING FROM THE PORTLAND SCHEDULE TO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE 48 96 AND JUST EVERY TYPE OF SCHEDULE YOU COULD THINK OF. AND EVENTUALLY WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY INNOVATIVE AND THEY CALLED IT THE GARLAND SHIFT. AND, UM, AND SO MY HAT'S OFF TO THEM FOR DOING THAT. THANK YOU. KUDOS TO YOU AND TO THE COMMITTEE, AND ESPECIALLY TO THE PHARMACY ASSOCIATION, UH, FOR TEXT CHRISTINA ANO WORKING TOGETHER IN SUCH A FASHION THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COME OUT WITH A SOLUTION THAT WE'RE ALL READY TO WILLING TO WORK BY AND WORK WITH. THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR. THANKS, SIR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE FIRE AND EEMS STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE? NO, THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER OTT, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PROTE, DEPUTY MAYOR DUTTON, AND COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. WE'RE ALL ON THAT COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR ALL, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT COMMITTEE AND LOOKS LIKE WE'VE PLEASURE. GOOD. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. AND I'M, I'M THANKFUL ALSO TO THE, LIKE YOU SAID, TO EVERYONE INVOLVED TO HELP GET US TO THIS POINT. SO NOW IT'S UP TO THE VOTERS TO HELP US IN NOVEMBER SO WE CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS TEXT. DYLAN HEDRICK, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. UH, SECOND PART OF YOUR, UH, REPORT TONIGHT, SIR. A VARIETY SHOW. MM-HMM . THE SECOND ACT. HERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING. SCOTT BERG, CHIEF OF POLICE. UH, THIS IS AN UPDATE, UM, THAT JEFF BRYAN, UH, THE CHIEF AT THE TIME, UH, ORIGINALLY GAVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AND IT WAS ASKED FOR ME TO BRING FORTH THE SAME PRESENTATION FOR Y'ALL. THE FIRST THING IS LOUD MUSIC DOWNTOWN. THERE WAS A REQUEST, UH, BY COUNCIL MEMBER BEARD, UH, TO EXPLORE AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS EXPLAINING THE QUIET ZONE FOR LOUD VEHICLES IN DOWNTOWN. THIS WAS MODELED AFTER A, UH, A BELIEF THAT FORT WORTH HAD A ORDINANCE THAT THEY HAD CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR [02:35:01] THAT ISSUE. WE LOOKED INTO IT, AND THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T CHANGE ANY OF THE LAWS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY NEW ORDINANCES. WHAT THEY DID IS THEY DID A EDUCATION CAMPAIGN TO EXPLAIN THAT THEY WERE GOING TO CHIEF WAHLBERG GESTURES. A WOMAN SITS BESIDE HIM TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCES OR THE LAWS THAT WERE ALREADY THERE. UM, THEY HAVE A DOWNTOWN, UH, ENFORCEMENT UNIT, AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THAT GREATLY. WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO IS WE, FOR ALL OUR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE HAD DOWNTOWN, WE VOLUNTARILY TOOK AN OFFICER AND HAD THEM WORK OVERTIME DURING THOSE EVENTS AND HAD THEM FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON, UH, DOWNTOWN NORS ORDINANCE, UH, ENFORCEMENT. THIS, IT'S NOT SMALLER, THERE'S MORE UP THERE THAN RIGHT THERE. THERE'S ABOUT FIVE, UH, FIVE DIFFERENT EVENTS OVER THE, UH, SIX MONTH PERIOD. WE CAN JUST SKIP OVER TO THE NEXT ONE, BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THEM. MUSIC MADE HERE, ART MADE HERE, UH, VERY SPECIAL EVENTS THAT OCCURRED, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE SIX MONTHS. AND WHAT WE HAVE NEXT TO IT IS THE, THE SLIDE READS QUESTIONS, THE DIFFERENT CITATIONS THAT WERE WRITTEN. SOME OF THEM WERE LOUD MUSIC CITATIONS, AND SOME OF THEM WERE JUST OTHER CITATIONS, UH, THAT THEY WROTE, UH, AS A RESULT OF ENFORCEMENT DOWN THERE WHEN THEY DID TRAFFIC STOPS OVER THE COURSE OF THE FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AND THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT EVENTS, WE ENDED UP WORKING 32 HOURS AND WE WROTE 16 LOUD MUSIC CITATIONS AND SEVEN OTHER CITATIONS, WHICH IS AVERAGING OUT A LITTLE LESS THAN ONE PER HOUR WORKED. UH, THIS INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THEY, UH, GAVE THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO GO FORTH, UH, WITH FUTURE OVERTIME AND FUTURE ENFORCEMENT. HAVING SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, OFFICERS THAT ARE ROUTINELY PATROLLING DOWNTOWN, AND THEY WILL FOCUS ON THIS TYPE OF, UH, ISSUE DURING SPECIAL EVENTS AS BEST THEY CAN. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR? I SEE NONE. PLEASE CONTINUE. OKAY. MOVING FORWARD, CELEBRATORY GUNFIRE. UH, ALSO, UH, THERE ARE TWO PARTICULAR DAYS THAT CELEBRATORY GUNFIRE HAPPENS 4TH OF JULY AND NEW YEAR'S EVE, OR RIGHT AROUND THOSE, THE REST OF THE TIME. THESE ARE JUST GENERAL FIREARMS DISTURBANCES OR GUNFIRE DISTURBANCES. UH, I WAS GONNA REVIEW A LITTLE BIT THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE, UH, TO COMBAT THESE GUNFIRE DISTURBANCES. THE FIRST ONE IS A DISCHARGE OF A FIREARM IN CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES AND ALL OF THESE LAWS. THERE IS, UH, SOME DETAILS THAT MAKE IT A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR US, AND WE'RE GONNA HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THOSE. AND THIS PARTICULAR LAW, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE WORD RECKLESSLY IS UNDERLINED. AS AN EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO SHOOT OFF A FIREARM IN THEIR BACKYARD STRAIGHT INTO THE GROUND, UH, WE USED TO FILE THOSE REGULARLY, UH, AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY STOPPED TAKING THEM BECAUSE THEY FOCUSED ON THIS WORD RECKLESSLY. THEY FELT LIKE THAT WAS NOT RECKLESS. NOW, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WHERE THEY SHOOT AT SOMETHING THAT, WHERE THERE'S A POSSIBLE RICOCHET OR THERE'S SOMEBODY POSSIBLY DOWN RANGE, THEN ABSOLUTELY WE CAN, AND WE HAVE FILED A WHOLE BUNCH OF THOSE CASES. BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY, UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE. NEXT ONE IS THE CITY ORDINANCE PROJECTING OF MISSILES PROHIBITED. THIS TYPICALLY WAS ORIGINALLY FOR BB GUNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE, IT DOES FALL WITHIN THE RANGE OF IF SOMEBODY DISCHARGES A FIREARM. UM, BUT IT IS A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR. THIS IS A TICKETABLE OFFENSE, WHICH IS WHY WE, WE CAN USE IT IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT IT'S NOT VERY MUCH OF A DETERRENT EFFECT, UH, FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S FIRING OFF GUNS. PEN CODE 46.02. THE NEXT ONE IS UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF WEAPONS. SO WE'VE GOT THE LANGUAGE IN THIS LAW, BUT WE'RE GONNA GET TO A POINT RIGHT AFTERWARDS THAT WE WILL FOCUS MORE ON. WHEN I WAS A YOUNG OFFICER, IF SOMEBODY WAS CARRYING A, A HANDGUN OUT IN PUBLIC, IT WAS GENERALLY ILLEGAL. AND WE FILED THIS CASE, WHAT WE REFER TO AS UCW QUITE OFTEN THERE WAS A FEW EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO IT. AS TIME HAS GONE ON, THE LAW HAS EVOLVED, AND THERE'S SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT'S BEEN PUT IN THIS LAW THAT CREATES MORE, UH, EXCEPTIONS. AND THAT WAS PUT IN FAIRLY INTENTIONALLY. IT HAS MADE IT VERY COMPLEX FOR US TO FILE. AND SO GOING DOWN, WE HAVE STARTED CREATING CHARTS FOR OUR OFFICERS BECAUSE OF THIS COMPLEXITY. THIS IS ONE OF THE CHARTS THAT WE HAVE, NOT THE ONLY ONE. UH, THIS PARTICULAR CHART TALKS ABOUT, UH, THE FLOW CHART TO BEING ABLE TO, TO FILE THIS CASE AGAINST A DRIVER OR OWNER OF A VEHICLE. THIS NEXT ONE IS THE FLOW CHART THAT TALKS ABOUT, UH, IF [02:40:01] YOU'RE AN ADULT ON FOOT CARRYING A, UH, A FIREARM. THERE ARE SOME OTHER CHARTS AS WELL, TALKING ABOUT JUVENILES AND SO FORTH, BUT IT KIND OF MAKES THE POINT THAT THIS IS NO LONGER THE, THE LAW BEFORE. AND SO IT HAS REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY THE AMOUNT OF TIMES WE CHARGE SOMEBODY WITH UCW. THIS NEXT SLIDE, UH, IS KIND OF A, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF GUNSHOT DISTURBANCE REPORTS WE'VE HAD OVER A, UH, UH, THIS LAST, THIS YEAR TO DATE, OR I'M SORRY, THIS LAST 10 YEARS. UM, AS WELL AS THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT WE, UH, THE TIMES AMOUNT WE'VE FILED CASES ON. SO THERE'S BEEN, OUT OF THE 13,000 PLUS CASES OR CALLS OF GUNSHOT DISTURBANCES, WE'VE ONLY FILED 82 CASES, UM, IN RECENT TIMES. AND THE DISPOSITION OF THOSE, UH, IS OVER ON THE RIGHT. UH, 48 OF THEM, WE HAD A POSITIVE DISPOSITION. THEY HAD PUNISHMENT, 10 OF THEM WERE JUVENILE CASES. UH, 13 OF 'EM ARE STILL PENDING. UH, THEY'RE WAITING FOR IT TO GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM. 11 OF 'EM WERE DISMISSED. AND WHEN THEY'RE DISMISSED, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY DISMISS BECAUSE WE HAVE A BAD CHARGE. IT CAN BE DISMISSED FOR A VARIETY OF PROSECUTORIAL, UH, REASONS. POSSIBLY. THEY HAD MULTIPLE CHARGES FILED AGAINST THEM AND THEY WERE WILLING TO DISMISS ONE TO GET A PLEA BARGAIN OF SOMETHING ELSE. AND THAT'S UP TO THE PROSECUTOR, NOT TO THE, THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND SO 82 OF THEM, UH, WERE FILED TEXT 45 DAY GUNSHOT CALLS MAP GREEN CIRCLES. UH, THIS IS A MAP OF THE LAST 45 DAYS WHERE THE GUNSHOT CALLS. AS YOU CAN TELL, THERE'S NO ONE PARTICULAR PLACE THAT IS ALL OVER THE CITY, AS YOU CAN PROBABLY IMAGINE, BUT WE DO MAP THAT REGULARLY. WHY IS CELEBRATORY GUNFIRE SO DIFFICULT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT? WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ELEMENTS OF THE CRIME THEY HAVE TO HAVE IN THE CASE OF RECKLESSLY, OR WE HAVE TO TEXT WHO COMMITTED THE CRIME, GET ALL OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE CRIME, SOME OF WHICH ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT. WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY SEE THIS PERSON DISCHARGED THE FIREARM. HEARING SOMEBODY DISCHARGE THE FIREARM DOES NOT MEET THAT ELEMENT. UH, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE CRIME SCENE IS AT TO INVESTIGATE. AT THE VERY LEAST, ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT PIECES OF EVIDENCE IS, UH, SHELL CASINGS. AND WE HAVE A NEW TECHNOLOGY OR TECHNOLOGY WE'VE USED IN RECENT YEARS, UH, CALLED , UH, WHICH PROVIDES A, UH, SHELL CASINGS THE ABILITY TO MATCH SHELL CASINGS TO THE WEAPON. UH, IF WE RECOVER THE WEAPON, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A FINGERPRINT. AND IF THE, WHEN A GUN FIRES A SHELL OR A A, UH, BULLET, THE SHELL CASING HAS A PARTICULAR, UH, FINGERPRINT OR FORENSIC ELEMENT THAT IS LEFT ON IT THAT THIS, UH, TECHNOLOGY CAN NOW IDENTIFY AND IT CAN LINK THE GUNS TO THE SHELL CASINGS. BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LOCATION IS, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE GUN WILL SHUT OFF, WE CAN'T RECOVER THOSE SHELL CASINGS. UH, I POINTED OUT YOU NEED TO KNOW WHO COMMITTED THE CRIME. SOMEBODY HAS TO SEE THEM. AND SOME PEOPLE PERCEIVE THIS AS A VICTIMLESS CRIME, ESPECIALLY DURING, UH, TIMES OF CELEBRATION, 4TH OF JULY AND, UH, NEW YEAR'S EVE, I'VE GOT A FEW OF THE TYPE OF ROUTINE CALLS WE GET. AND SO YOU HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THESE CALLS ARE CONVEYED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THIS, THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS A VERY, VERY COMMON TYPE OF CALL. SOMEBODY CALLS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY SAY THAT THEY HEARD THREE GUNSHOTS JUST NOW. THEY, UH, HEARD IT SOUTHEAST OF THE DISPATCH LOCATION. THEY DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY. THEY DIDN'T SEE ANY VEHICLES. ALL THEY DID IS HEAR. AND THEY HAVE, UH, THE LAST, UH, LETTERS ARE NO ONE TO CONTACT, SO THEY DON'T WANNA BE CONTACTED. SO AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE AN OFFICER THAT, UH, SOMEBODY'S HEARD GUNSHOTS, WE CHECK THE GENERAL AREA, THE TEXT SCROLLS UP, SHOWS ENTRIES, AND THOSE ARE VERY, VERY LOW PROBABILITY OF US FINDING. OCCASIONALLY WE DO, BUT NOT VERY MUCH. THIS PARTICULAR CALL, THEY HEARD EIGHT GUNSHOTS. THEY DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT THEY JUST HEARD 'EM WANTED US TO KNOW. THEY GAVE A LOCATION. IT'S POSSIBLY COMING FROM WILLIAMS' FUNERAL HOME. NOW, LOTS OF TIMES WHEN THESE TYPES OF CALLS COME IN, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CALLERS ABOUT THE SAME EVENT. AND IN THIS WE DID HAVE MULTIPLE CALLERS. SO A DUPLICATE, UH, CALL CAME IN. THEY HEARD 13 GUNSHOTS THEY THOUGHT WITH ONE GUN. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLY BY THE SCHOOL OVER AT WILLIAMS ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS SEVERAL BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE FUNERAL HOME. ANOTHER CALL CAME IN AT ROCK CREEK, WHICH IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST NORTH OF WILLIAMS FUNERAL HOME. THEY HEARD 20 TO 25 GUNSHOTS. UM, UH, THE, UH, ANOTHER CALLER FELT LIKE THE, IT WAS THE GUNSHOTS WERE COMING FROM CENTRAL PARK, WHICH IS SEVERAL BLOCKS NORTH OF THAT. UH, NOBODY SAW ANYBODY AND THERE WAS NO VEHICLE SEEN OR HEARD. NOBODY WANTED TO BE CONTACTED. UM, SO, UH, THAT GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE OF KIND OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE HEARING DIFFERENT THINGS AND NOBODY CAN REALLY, UH, GIVE US A GOOD LOCATION, EVEN THOUGH A [02:45:01] LOT OF CALLS, OBVIOUSLY EVENTS OCCURRED, UH, BUT TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN SO WE CAN FILE THE CASE IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT. TEXT HEARD FIVE SHOTS. UH, THIS PARTICULAR CALL, GUNSHOTS WERE GOING OFF AT THE PARK. THEY DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY TEXT A DD. THERE ARE TWO TKS AND SEF CARS IN THE P HELL AT THE PARK. UH, ANOTHER CALLER CAME IN, THEY HEARD FIVE GUNSHOTS, AND THEN FIVE MORE TWO MINUTES AGO, UH, THEN THEY ADVISED THAT THERE WERE ALSO SEVERAL TRUCKS AND SEVERAL CARS AT THE PARK. UH, WHEN THE OFFICERS GOT THERE, THEY REALIZED THIS WAS A BIRTHDAY PARTY AND THAT THE NOISE THAT EVERYBODY WAS HEARING WERE BALLOONS BEING POPPED BECAUSE OF THE CELEBRATION. UM, SO AGAIN, WHEN YOU JUST HEAR THE SOUNDS, THEY PUT IT IN AS A GUNSHOT DISTURBANCE. THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY ALL GUNSHOT DISTURBANCES. THIS ONE, UM, TEXT BEGINNING FORENSICS GUNSHOTS WERE HEARD. THEY HEARD, UH, SAW A VEHICLE LEAVING THE LOCATION. THEY HEARD ABOUT A DUPLICATE OF IT CAME IN SEVEN TO 10 GUNSHOTS AND VEHICLE. SO THEY'RE SAYING VERY SIMILAR, UH, INFORMATION. UM, AND ANOTHER CALLER CAME IN AND THEY SAID, HEY, IT HAPPENED AT A PARTICULAR ADDRESS. SO THEY GAVE US THIS ADDRESS. UH, THEY VERIFIED A SIMILAR AMOUNT. UH, WHEN OFFICERS GOT THERE, THEY FOUND THE SHELL CASINGS. AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO COLLECT THOSE SHELL CASINGS OR HAVE OUR FORENSICS UNIT COME OVER AND COLLECT THOSE SHELL CASINGS. SO THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME PIECE OF EVIDENCE FOR US TO FOLLOW UP ON TEXT INCIDENTS DATED MAY 7TH, 2025. UM, HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME CASES WHERE WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO FILE OR INSTANCES WE WERE ABLE TO FILE A CASE AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME COMMONALITIES OF THEM AFTERWARDS. THIS DEPARTMENT MANAGER CONTACTED HIS, UH, THEIR NPO IN REFERENCE TO ATTENDANT WHO WITNESSED SOMEBODY DISCHARGING A FIREARM. WE CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION AND BECAUSE OF THAT WITNESS, THEY ACTUALLY SAW SOMEBODY DO IT. WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE AN ARREST IN THAT. SO IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. INITIALLY. THERE WERE FOLLOW UP INVESTIGATION. UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER CALL AT A SKATE PARK. MULTIPLE SHOTS. WITNESSES OBTAINED A LICENSE PLATE. BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO USE OUR, UH, THEY RECOVERED SOME SHELL CASINGS. WE WERE ABLE TO USE TWO TECHNOLOGY, UH, VINS. AND THEY ALSO, UH, I THINK USED FLOCK IN THAT TO TRY AND PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER AND ULTIMATELY, UH, UH, FILE A CASE. BOLD POINTS, SCROLL OFF. TWO NEW POINTS APPEAR. UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE MEADOWLARK APARTMENTS, WE MADE AN ARREST ON A 13-YEAR-OLD SHOOTING A FIREARM IN THE, IN THE PARKING LOT. UM, AND UH, THIS NEXT ONE, UM, AN OFFICER, UH, OR IN FACT BOTH OF THESE CASES ARE OFFICERS GOT TO THE SCENE AND ACTUALLY WITNESSED THE OFFENSE OCCURRED, WHICH IS THE DISTINCTION. EITHER A WITNESS DOES IT OR OFFICERS WERE GET ON SCENE FAST ENOUGH, UH, AND THEY DO LOCATE. AND THE SECOND ONE WAS WHEN THEY WERE FIRING OFF A AR RIFLE. BOTH OF THOSE WERE ARRESTED AND CHARGED THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, A WITNESS CALLED OBSERVED TWO JUVENILE SHOOTING, A GUN LICENSE PLATE OBTAINED, UH, IT WAS ENTERED INTO FLOCK AND THE VEHICLE WAS LOCATED LATER ON, UH, OVER AT CENTRAL PARK. UM, THEY ARRESTED THE SUBJECT IN, UH, ARRESTED MULTIPLE, OR RECOVERED MULTIPLE GUNS. THIS CASE WAS LINKED TO SEVEN OTHER PREVIOUS FIREARMS CASES WHERE WE HAD COLLECTED SHELL CASINGS AT ALL OF THOSE, UH, INCIDENTS. AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT STRING OF DATES THERE. UH, THE TWO, UH, SUSPECTS WERE 17 AND 16, AGAIN, YOUNG, YOUNG PEOPLE. SO OF THE, IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE'VE MADE 130 ARRESTS. 20 OF THEM HAVE BEEN IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS. SO WITH THIS, THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES, WE'VE INCREASING THE, OUR ABILITY TO MAKE THESE ARRESTS. WE DID A DEEP DIVE IN 2023 ON THE 25 ARRESTS WE MADE THAT YEAR. AND IT BROKE DOWN TO THREE KIND OF GENERAL CATEGORIES. 15 OF THEM WERE MADE BECAUSE OF WITNESS IDENTIFICATION. UM, FIVE OF THEM WERE BECAUSE OFFICERS GOT ON SCENE AND WERE ABLE TO OBSERVE THE PERSON'S, UH, UH, FIRING THE GUN. AND THEN FIVE OF THEM WERE MADE ON PARTIAL DESCRIPTIONS, UH, AND THE TECHNOLOGY, THEY FLOCK AND IVINS TO PIECE TOGETHER ALL THE ELEMENTS AND MAKE THE CASE. AND THIS IS A, UH, CHART OF KIND OF THOSE 130, THE AGE GROUPS. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY SKEW TOWARDS YOUNGER, WITH THE ONE EXCEPTION OF SOMEBODY THAT WAS VERY OLDER, HISTOGRAM AGE, DISTRIBUTION, AGE ON X FREQUENCY ON Y. THE, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PERSON WAS 99 YEARS OLD. SO TEXT QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT GUNSHOT DISTURBANCES OR CELEBRATORY GUNFIRE? THE POLICE MAN AND WOMAN SIT AT A TABLE. COUNCILOR, RELUCTANT TEXT MICHAEL J BETZ, CITY MANAGER. WILL YOU, UH, DO YOU HAVE THE PENAL CODE RELATED TO THE AGE OF SOMEONE WHO IS ALLOWED TO HAVE A HANDGUN IN HERE? NO, I DON'T. WELL, I MEAN UCW, THE POLICE CHIEF AND A WOMAN, UH, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS OR BECAUSE OF THIS CHART WHEN THEY'RE JUVENILE, THAT DEFINITELY MAKES IT PROBLEMATIC FOR US. UM, RIGHT. IS THAT KINDA THE POINT? UM, NO, THE POINT IS THAT IF SOMEONE IS OPERATING OR IN CONTROL OF A MOTOR VEHICLE, THEN THEY CAN BE 15 YEARS OLD AND LAWFULLY CARRY A HANDGUN IN TEXAS. THAT [02:50:01] IS CORRECT. WHICH REALLY, WHICH REALLY MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR OUR POLICE TO, UM, TAKE GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS. AND YOU SAW THAT CHART WHERE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE PEOPLE CARRYING GUNS ARE QUITE YOUNG, UM, MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT ON OUR OFFICERS TO KEEP GUNS OFF OF THE STREETS BECAUSE OF THE LEGISLATION THAT TEXT MARGARET LUCK ALLOWS PEOPLE TO HAVE GUNS. RIGHT. SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT AND, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO. THANK YOU, MARGARET. LUCK SPEAKS OTHER NAMES ON SCREEN. UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUNN. AND FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SHOOT A GUN INTO THE GROUND, BUT NOT IN THE AIR. NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. UH OH. THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY . WELL, THERE'S SOME NUANCE TO THAT THERE IF YOU SHOOT IT STRAIGHT INTO THE GROUND, WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS FILING THOSE CASES. I CAN GIVE YOU SOME OTHER, I WOULD SAY THAT THERE ARE TIMES THEY'VE SHOT INTO THE GROUND WHERE WE ABLE TO FIRE A CASE. UM, BUT THOSE ARE A LITTLE MORE REMOTE AND SHOOTING THE MAYOR INTO THE AIR, UH, IS, WE WOULD SAY RECKLESS BECAUSE THE BULLET ALWAYS HAS TO COME DOWN AS OPPOSED TO SHOOTING IT INTO THE GROUND OR SHOOTING INTO SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IS GONNA COLLECT THE BULLET. BUT THINGS THAT A GENERAL CITIZEN THINKS IS GONNA STOP A BULLET, DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS STOP A BULLET AND THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN RATHER THAN, SO THAT'S RECKLESS. SO, UH, I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T SHOOT A GUN TO THE GROUND AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ARREST YOU, BUT I DO SAY THAT THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMATIC, THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT MAY PRECLUDE US FROM FILING A CASE. AND SO WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMME RECOMMENDATIONS AS OUR NEW INTERIM CHIEF, UM, FOR WHEN YOU HEAR GUNSHOTS OR WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE OUR CITIZENS TO DO? WELL, FIRST CALL US, UH, GIVE US ANY INFORMATION YOU HAVE ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW, PREFERABLY, UH, THE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS IF YOU HAVE A LOCATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, TELL US IF YOU SEE A VEHICLE, GIVE US A DESCRIPTION, UH, ALLOW US TO CONTACT YOU. UM, AND, UH, SO WE CAN FOLLOW UP. SOMETIMES WHEN MY OFFICERS ARE TALKING TO PEOPLE, THEY CAN PULL INFORMATION OUTTA YOU, YOU DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE YOU HAD, BY ASKING SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. SO THOSE, SEVERAL OF THOSE THINGS I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. UH, IF YOU SEE SHELL CASINGS LEAVE THEM ALONE, BUT TELL US WHERE THEY'RE AT. PERFECT. UM, ONE OF OUR, UM, JOE THOMAS LOOKS AT HIS MONITOR, CAME TO THE WEST GARLAND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AND HE TOUCHED ON TEXT CHRIS OTT, HOW WE ALL ASSUME THAT ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS CALLED, UM, AND HOW AS AN NPO, THEY'LL GO AND CHECK THEIR REPORTS AND SEE LIKE WHAT THE CALLS WERE FOR THE NIGHT BEFORE, WHATEVER, AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT LIKE, WHAT IS THE HOT TOPIC? HAVE YOU, UM, IN THE AREA? AND HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT LOOKS REALLY FUNNY WHEN HE'S ASKED, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THE GUNSHOTS? AND HE SAYS, WELL, THEY'RE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS A PROBLEM BECAUSE NO ONE CALLS THEM IN. AND SO NAMES SHOW FOUR OFFICIALS. I I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF CALLING THINGS IN WHEN YOU HEAR IT. UM, BUT THEN ALSO WE HAVE THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF, WELL, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING, SO WHAT, WHAT AM I GONNA CALL AND TELL THEM? UM, SO IF NOTHING ELSE, IT HELPS TRACK WHERE OUR, OUR TROUBLE LOCATIONS ARE. ABSOLUTELY. AND OUR OFFICERS CAN PUT PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER. I, I WILL TELL YOU, I WAS ON DEEP NIGHTS FOR A LOT OF YEARS AND YOU WOULD HEAR SOME GUNSHOTS AND WE'D START COLLAPSING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND EXPECTING SOME CALLS TO, TO START HITTING BECAUSE OF IT. AND THERE WERE TIMES NONE WOULD COME. YEAH. UM, SO YEAH, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL , THAT'S QUICK. THANK YOU. . I THOUGHT I'M ON THE LINE. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. AND THEN, AND FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY, I APPRECIATE IT. I FORGOT THE SLIDE NUMBER, BUT EARLY THEIR SLIDE, TALK ABOUT THE CITATION, UH, BECAUSE OF THE LOUD, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, CAN YOU GIVE EXAMPLE OF A CITATION FOR THE THE LOUD NOISE? OH, FOR THE LOUD NOISE. UH, WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT IN THIS NEXT PRESENTATION, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT THERE IF YOU WANT. YOU, I'LL, I'LL WAIT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COUNCILOR THOMAS. SO THE DOWNTOWN EVENT, LOUD MUSIC CITATIONS, FEBRUARY 6TH, IF I RECALL, WAS, UH, KARAOKE AT INTRINSIC AND YOU GAVE FOUR CITATIONS. I DIDN'T GET ONE OF THOSE, DID I? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. DON'T KNOW IF YOU, YEAH, IF YOU HEARD MY PERFORMANCE, YOU PROBABLY MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY. , THERE'S A BUTTON NODS. UM, SO, BUT IT JUST SEEMS STRANGE THAT THAT WAS, WERE THERE ANY OF THOSE RELATED TO THAT EVENT OR? I THINK, WELL, WE WERE, WHAT THE OFFICERS WERE DIRECTED TO DO IS PATROL THE DOWNTOWN AREA DURING THOSE EVENTS. AND IF VEHICLES ARE COMING BY THAT ARE DOING LOUD MUSIC OR HAVE LOUD SOUNDS FOR SOME REASON, YOU KNOW, WE EDUCATED THEM OR REFRESH THEIR MEMORY ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT LAWS ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND TRY AND ENFORCE THOSE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. I DON'T THINK ANY OF 'EM WERE DIRECTLY RELATED TO INTRINSIC. IT WASN'T THE [02:55:01] NOISE FROM INTRINSIC, IT WAS FROM VEHICLES THAT WERE DRIVING AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA AT THAT TIME. OKAY. YOU, THE CAPTION ON THAT SIDE SAYS, ALLOWS MU LOUD MUSIC CITATIONS AND THEN THE COLUMN SAYS JUST LOUD NOISE CITATIONS. SO I WASN'T QUITE SURE IF THAT WAS YEAH, IT WAS MORE FOCUSED ON VEHICLE TRAFFIC. REALLY ON VEHICLE NOISE THERE. YEAH. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. CAN WE MAKE BAD JOKES? CLASS C MISDEMEANORS, , I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE ON YOUR, YES. SO THE NEXT, UH, ITEM IS NOISE DISTURBANCE REPORTS. UM, I'M GONNA GO OVER A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UH, ORDINANCES AND, UH, LAWS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, LOUD NOISE AND WHAT WE CAN DO. UM, THIS ONE, THIS IS A VERY TECHNICAL ONE, TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT DECIBELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND WE DO HAVE SOME SORT OF METERS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO TRY AND MEASURE THAT. THAT'S TYPICALLY NOT WHAT WE DO. TYPICALLY OFFICERS GO AND IF THEY CAN HEAR OF LOUD MUSIC OR SOMETHING FROM A LOCATION WHERE WE'VE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT, UM, IF THEY'RE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE, THEY CAN FILE A CASE. TEXT SPECIFIC NOISES PROHIBITED. UH, AND IT TALKS ABOUT SOME SPECIFIC NOISES THAT ARE PROHIBITED, INCLUDING MOTOR VEHICLES. UH, AGAIN, IT GETS INTO TECHNICAL STUFF ABOUT THE DISTANCE AND THE DECIBELS. THIS, UH, SOUND AMPLIFICATION ON VEHICLES IS THE ONE THAT TYPICALLY IS ENFORCED MUCH MORE THAN OTHERS. Y'ALL PROBABLY KNOW IT AS THE BOOMBOX ORDINANCE AND IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LOT OF YEARS. AND, UH, IT'S JUST SAYING THAT IF A VEHICLE IS GOING DOWN THE STREET, YOU, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THE MUSIC COMING FROM IT FOR MORE THAN 50 FEET. UM, AND THERE'S SOME ENHANCEMENTS IF THERE ARE REPEAT OFFENSES. UH, AND THIS IS MORE LIKE ON THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THINGS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO ENFORCE IS THAT TYPE OF ORDINANCE. UH, THE PENAL CODE ALSO HAS A DISORDERLY CONDUCT. IF SOMEBODY MAKES AN UNREASONABLE NOISE AND PUBLIC PLACE OTHER THAN SHOOTING RANGE, UH, OR IN A PRIVATE RESIDENCE, UM, THEN YOU CAN UH, FILE A CASE. UM, IT STILL, IT IS A TEXAS PENAL CODE, BUT IT IS A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR. SO OF ALL THE NOISE ORDINANCES OR ALL THE NOISE REPORTS THAT WE'VE GOT HERE, THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, THROUGH A 10 YEAR PERIOD. THERE'S, I UPDATED THESE TODAY. THERE'S OVER 50,000 OF THEM. UM, AND WE'VE ISSUED 425 NOISE, SANITATIONS NOISE REPORT, TEXT NOISE DISTURBANCE REPORT. IN THE LAST YEAR, THERE HAS BEEN 308 PLACES, LOCATIONS THAT HAVE THREE OR MORE COMPLAINTS, KIND OF COMMON PLACES WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING LOUD MUSIC DISTURBANCES. THOSE ARE AREAS WE TRY AND FOCUS ON. UM, IF WE HAVE REPEAT OFFENSES AT A LOCATION, THE NPOS DEFINITELY GET A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM THEIR, UH, CRIME WATCH GROUPS AND THEIR, UH, DIFFERENT PEOPLE THEY CONTACT AND THEY TRY AND FOCUS ON THOSE. WE ALSO, EVEN IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T CALL ABOUT THEM, WE TRY AND, UH, OR IF AN OFFICER RESPONDS AND THEY TURN THE MUSIC DOWN, IF THEY'RE A REPEAT PROBLEM LOCATION, WE WILL TYPICALLY, UH, WATCH SOME BODY CAM VIDEO, SEE IF WE CAN FILE A CASE AFTER THE FACT BECAUSE OF THEY'RE A PROBLEM LOCATION. UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN GENERAL OFFICERS, WHAT THEY TRY AND DO IS WHEN WE RECEIVE SOME SORT OF NOISE COMPLAINT, WE TRY AND GO OUT THERE AND WE TRY AND EDUCATE THE PEOPLE, EXPLAIN, HEY, YOU MAY NOT REALIZE THIS WAS SO LOUD, BUT IT IS AND IT'S DISTURBING YOUR NEIGHBORS AND TRY AND GET VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WHAT WE TRY AND DO. UM, BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, FILE THESE CASES. AND IF WE GO OUT THERE MULTIPLE TIMES, WE, WE DO, WE TRY TO 50,000 CALLS, CALLS TREND UP QUESTIONS FROM ALL OF THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. YOU GO BACK TO THAT LAST SLIDE. YES. SO IN 2025, THERE WERE 5,283 CALLS FOR SERVICE. UM, HOW MANY CITATIONS WERE WRITTEN IN 2025? DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T WRITE OFF OFFHAND. NO, I DO KNOW. I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT. UH, IN RECENT TIMES, WE HAVE DEFINITELY STEPPED UP OUR ENFORCEMENT ON THIS AS WE CAN. GOOD. SO I WOULD SAY WE'RE TRENDING UPWARD, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER. I CAN FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU LATER. UM, I'M, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS I GET IS ABOUT NOISE LOUD PARTIES, UM, OR EVEN JUST NOISE FROM PEOPLE IN GENERAL, HAVING A, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN ONE PLACE AND THEY'RE JUST ALL BEING LOUD AT THE SAME TIME. TEXT JOE DOIS JR. IT'S DISTURBING IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE QUIET AND IT REALLY, REALLY BOTHERS PEOPLE. UM, IT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE THAT IF AN OFFICER HAS TO GO TO A LOCATION MORE THAN ONCE THEY GET A CITATION. UM, I'VE, I'VE ENCOUNTERED SITUATIONS WHERE AN OFFICER VISITED THREE TIMES, UM, AND THEN ON THE FOURTH TIME ISSUED A CITATION BECAUSE I REQUESTED IT. SO, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT HAS TO BE FRUSTRATING FOR OFFICERS. THAT'S A WASTE OF TIME FOR EVERYONE. [03:00:01] AND, UM, I'VE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE STRICTER ENFOR ENFORCEMENT FOR NOISE DISTURBANCES INCLUDING VEHICLES. SO MARGARET LUCK GESTURES, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE REALLY, REALLY LOUD VEHICLES OUT THERE AND SOME OF THEM I FEEL LIKE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THEIR VEHICLES . AND IT DRIVES ME, IT DRIVES PEOPLE CRAZY. UM, SO, UM, ANYTIME AN OFFICER HAS THE ABILITY TO, UH, QUELL THOSE DISTURBANCES, UM, THE BETTER MARGARET LUCK TRUSTS MEMBERS HERE, UH, WE'VE DEFINITELY ENCOURAGED THAT. AND, AND UNDERSTAND ALSO, AND I KNOW YOU DO THAT AT TIMES WHEN SOME MUSIC DISTURBANCES GO ON, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON OH YES. IN THE CITY AND THEY ARE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE THINGS AND SO THEY MAY NOT TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS THEY WOULD, THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PROBLEM. BUT I ABSOLUTELY SEE YOUR POINT. AND WE HAVE DEFINITELY ENCOURAGED THAT THERE WAS AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED NOT LONG AGO THAT WE WERE NOT PLEASED ABOUT. WE FOLLOWED UP AFTERWARDS AND WE WERE ABLE TO FILE SOME CASES THAT WERE, WHEN THEY DID NOT INITIALLY DO IT. UH, AND WE'VE USED THAT AS AN EXAMPLE IN RECENT MONTHS. GOOD. I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT. UM, WHAT IS A, WHAT CAN A RESIDENT DO IF THERE'S ALLOWED PARTY NEARBY? UM, WHAT'S THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION FOR THEM TO TAKE? UH, IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY, YOU CAN ALWAYS TALK TO 'EM, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. THEY ARE AFRAID THAT'S GONNA CAUSE A CONFRONTATION. AND SO IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, DEFINITELY CALL US AND EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. IF YOU WERE TO SAY, WILL YOU PLEASE ASK THEM TO TURN IT DOWN? OR IF YOU WANT TO SIGN A CITATION, IF, IF YOU'RE FED UP, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME, THERE'S BEEN REPEAT PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, INDICATE THAT YOU WANT TO SIGN A CITATION. AND THAT DEFINITELY HELP GIVES THE OFFICER AN INDICATOR, UH, THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM AND, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGES ENFORCEMENT ACTION. WHAT'S YOUR ADVICE FOR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE AFRAID OF RETALIATION FROM THOSE, UH, NEIGHBORS AND, AND WHEN THEY'RE ASKED TO SIGN A TICKET BECAUSE AN OFFICER DIDN'T WITNESS THE NOISE VIOLATION OR DISTURBANCE, UM, WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT THAT? WELL, I WOULD SAY IT IS UP TO THEM. THE OFFICER CANNOT SIGN US OR CANNOT GIVE A CITATION IF THEY DON'T HEAR THE MUSIC AND THEY DON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF WITNESS ON THERE. UH, TYPICALLY OFFICERS WON, SAY, HEY, NEXT TIME IT HAPPENS, OR, UH, THAT GIVE US A CALL AGAIN, THEN WE CAN TRY AND CATCH IT. UM, UH, IT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT AT TIMES 'CAUSE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS BUILT TO HAVE SOMEBODY BE A WITNESS OR BE A COMPLAINANT IN THE SITUATION. WE'VE TRIED TO TAILOR THE LAW SO IT, IT ALLOWS OFFICERS TO DO, UH, TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION BASED ON THEIR OWN OBSERVATIONS. BUT, UH, IN GENERAL, OFFICER'S, UH, PIECE CANNOT BE DISTURBED IN A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES. NOW THAT'S EXPANDED A LITTLE BIT AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. THANK YOU. BARRY. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, ? YEAH, I, I MEAN I, I JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ASK FOR CONTACT FROM THE OFFICER IF THERE'S A, A REPEATED OFFENSE THINK OFFICER SHOULD BE CONTACTING THE PEOPLE. THEY SHOULD NOT BE CONTACTING THE COMPLAINANT AND NOT CONTACTING THE PARTY THAT EVEN IF THEY DON'T HEAR THE MUSIC, THEY SHOULD BE GOING OVER AND TELLING THEM THAT. SO YEAH, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. NOW JUST, UH, YEAH, GOOD QUESTION FOR THE, FOR THE CITATION. UH, SO GREAT TO SEE, UM, WITHIN 10 YEAR PERIODS, WE ONLY HAVE 425 CITATION RIGHT OUT OF 50 THOUSANDS. SO IT'S NOT A LOT COMPARED. IT'S A LITTLE LOW TO ME, BUT THAT'S THE NUMBER I'VE BEEN GIVEN. RIGHT. UM, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IF THEY HAVE A LOUD MUSIC ON THE CAR, THEY MIGHT HAVE A CITATION. UH, YEAH. AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE CITATIONS. THIS IS JUST, UH, LIKE A HOUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOISE DISTURBANCE REPORT, NOT CARS GOING BY THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE BOOMBOX VIOLATIONS. THANK YOU. NOW I, I GET THE REPORT FROM THE CHIEF BRIAN BEFORE THAT, UH, THE, UH, 12 OFFICER TASK FORCE FOR THE JULY, UH, RELATED FIREWORK. UM, A LOT OF RESIDENTS, THEY APPRECIATE THAT THEY THANK YOU. BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME RESIDENT ASKING THAT TEXT, CHRISTINA AVIANO, DISTRICT FOUR IS, IS IS THE POLICE OFFICER, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH, UM, OFFICERS ON THE STREET THAT FOCUS ON ORDERS, CRIME AND ACTIVITIES OTHER THAN THE FIREWORKS THAN FIREWORKS? SO WE HAVE A TASK FORCE THAT FOCUSES MOSTLY ON FIREWORKS ON THOSE PARTICULAR NIGHTS. 4TH OF JULY, NEW YEAR'S EVE, NOBODY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALLOWED TO TAKE OFF ON 4TH OF JULY WHEN THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO THAT SHIFT. THEY DO NOT, WE DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO HAVE VACATION. SO WE HAVE A FULL CONTINGENT OF OFFICERS AND WE BRING A TASK FORCE ON AS WELL. UH, AND SO THAT ALLOWS THE OFFICERS, AGAIN, WE DON'T ALLOW ANY OF THEM TO TAKE OFF. THEY FOCUS [03:05:01] ON CALLS AS THEY'RE COMING IN NOW, WHEN THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN CALLS, THEY'RE ALSO ANSWERING FIREWORKS DISTURBANCES, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE TASK FORCE IS FOCUSING PRIMARILY ON FIREWORKS DISTURBANCES. SO IT FREES UP THOSE OTHER OFFICERS. UM, BUT WHEN A BIG EVENT HAPPENS, EVERYBODY JUMPS IN ON DEALING WITH THAT AND UH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE AS ALWAYS PRIORITIZING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PARTICULAR CITY, THE VIOLENT CRIMES GOING ON. THEY'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE VIOLENT CRIME OF THE FIREWORKS. BUT THIS, THIS TASK FORCE MODEL, I THINK HAS BEEN DONE A GOOD JOB TO, UH, ADDRESS BOTH. I I AGREE. I I I SAW THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 1200 CALLS, UH, THAT FROM THE DISPATCHERS THAT RECEIVE. AND THEN YOU HAVE 5 350, 3 5 WORK RELATED. THE QUESTION IS IF YOU, IF WHEN THEY RECEIVE A CITATION, UM, WHAT IS THE PROCESS THERE? HOW MUCH THE COST DO THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR CITATION? I DON'T KNOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. UH, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. UM, THE, UH, YEAH, I DON'T, THAT'S KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOT A CITATION AND THEN BEYOND THERE IT'S UP TO THE COURTS. RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS FOR ED MOORE, JUSTIN CARAWAY, JIMMY TRAN, UM, HANDLE THOSE SITUATION. YOU SAID THAT THEY, THAT THEY ALL THE OFFICERS, ALL THE TEAM THAT TAKING CARE OF THE CRIME, SO IT'S NOT TAKEN AWAY FROM, FROM THEIR DUTY AT ALSO. THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN WE, THOSE ARE TWO BUSIEST DAYS OF THE YEAR AND WE PUT EVERYBODY ON, I MEAN I WORKED PART OF IT THIS LAST TIME. RIGHT. UM, SO YEAH, EVERYBODY'S ON ON DECK. YES. I SEE. THE COMMON SAYS THAT YET. GREAT. I SEE OFFICER COME TO MY STREET, TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE AUDITOR SAY, WELL, I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM. WHERE, WHERE ARE THEY? WHERE, WHERE WERE THEY? RIGHT, THE FIREWORKS, I ASSURE YOU THERE. SOME OF 'EM GOING OVER THERE, . RIGHT. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION GO BACK AS DO WE, WE MIGHT NEED MORE OFFICERS. I WILL, I'LL TAKE ALL THE OFFICERS YOU GIVE ME, BUT THOSE PARTICULAR NIGHTS WE UH, WE USE EVERYBODY WE CAN. GOT YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? ALRIGHT. I SEE NONE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. MICHAEL BETS SITS THOUGHTFULLY. DYLAN HEDRICK LOOKS AT HIS TABLET. COUNSEL, THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM FOR VERBAL DISCUSSION. WE NOW MOVE NOW TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS SUBORDINATES AND COMMISSIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, YOU HAVE A NOMINATION FOR THE COMMUNITY MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO DUTTON, YOU HAVE YOUR YOUTH COUNCIL NOMINEES. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCING FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEMS? DEPUTY MAYOR, PRO, TEM DUTTON, OTT, MAYOR PRO TEM, CARISSA DUTTON, MARGARET LT. UM, I WOULD LIKE A UPDATE ON THE RIGHT SITE PROGRAM AND HOW IT IS, UH, FUNCTIONING AT THE, TO THIS POINT. OKAY. UPDATE ON RIGHT SIDE. YES. AND UM, AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. SORRY, I GOT EXPLAIN. UM, AND THEN I WOULD LOOK AT, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT, UM, HAVING, UM, INSPECTION RECORDS, UM, ON THE GI. IS IT GIS? GIGR? WHAT IS THAT? GIS? YEAH, THAT ONE. UH, THE LETTERS, UM, FOR NON-FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. SO LIKE IF WE HAVE, UM, LIKE WE HAVE OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT SCORES THAT ARE LIKE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. UM, SO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF HAVING LIKE, THE SCORES FOR LIKE TATTOO AND PIERCING PARLORS, TEXT, JOE DAMAS, UM, NAIL SALONS, OUR INDUSTRIAL AREAS, LIKE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. OTHER TYPE OF SCORES THAT HE GAVE OUT? YEAH, LIKE HEALTH, HEALTH AND SAFETY. UM, SCORES. OKAY. AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. THAT'S IT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER ITEMS? YOU KNOW HOW TO GET 'EM TO ME IF YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING. AND WITH THAT BEING OUR LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA AT NINE 19, WE ARE ADJOURNED. GOODNIGHT GARLAND AJOUR. GOODNIGHT MAYOR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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