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          AUGUST 24TH MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS OUR CUSTOM. WE COMMISSIONERS START OUR MEETING WITH PRAYER AND PLEDGE. YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, IN NO WAY AFFECTS THE DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THEM. 
          TONIGHT'S PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER HILLIARD. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO SERVE THE CITY OF GARLAND, STATE OF TEXAS, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE WORLD. WE ASK YOU THAT. WHAT WE DO HERE TONIGHT IS THE GROUNDWORK, THE WAY LEADERS SHOULD BE HELD, AS WELL AS PEOPLE TRYING TO SERVE. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR WHATEVER WE DO HERE. IT IS ALL IN YOUR NAME. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE WHO ATTENDED AND THOSE WHO THOUGHT ABOUT ATTENDING. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYBODY THAT THAT HAS THE INPUT TO MAKE THIS CITY A BETTER PLACE TO BE. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THESE THINGS. IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELL, GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING. I SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT AND STARTING TO GET SOME CARDS IN. SO IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT, IF YOU PLEASE, FILL OUT ONE OF THESE YELLOW CARDS OR IN THE BACK AND ON THE TABLE OUT THERE OR UP FRONT HERE, AND HAND THEM TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY. THEN WE CAN CALL YOU TO SPEAK AND ADDRESS US WHEN YOU DO. WE'VE GOT SOME MICROPHONES UP THERE, IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE. WE DO NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS. APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES. BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WE DO ALLOW MORE TIME. AND AFTER EVERYBODY'S GIVEN A TESTIMONY, IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO COME BACK UP AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE ITEMS BROUGHT UP, WE ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT. AND AGAIN, PLEASE 
          [a. August 10, 2026 Plan Commission Minutes]
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL JUMP IN. TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH ITEM ONE A CONSIDER THE AUGUST 10TH, 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES. COMMISSIONER JENKINS, CHAIR. MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH TO. TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. 
          PREPARE TO VOTE. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH ONE ABSTENTION. ALL RIGHT. NEXT 
          [a. SV 26-01 Sign Crafters (District 5)]
ITEM IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM TWO A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF SIGN CRAFTERS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE TO CHAPTER FOUR, ARTICLE FIVE OF THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING SIGN AREA FOR AN ATTACHED WALL SIGN. 
          THE SITE IS LOCATED 825 WEST CENTERVILLE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THIS IS. I'M THE PLANNER WITH THE CITY. AS MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED SIGN VARIANCE FOR A LARGER WALL SIGN THAN WHAT'S PERMITTED BY THE GDC. SO. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 25 WEST CENTERVILLE. THE APPLICANT IS SIGN CRAFTERS AND THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 3.52 ACRES AND ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR MIXED USES. HERE IS THE ZONING MAP. IT'S PRETTY MUCH SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL AND MIXED ORIENTED USES, AND THESE ARE SOME SITE PICTURES. YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS UNDER RENOVATION RIGHT NOW. IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO BE OCCUPIED BY CRUNCH FITNESS STUDIOS. SO THE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD AND NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, AND RIGHT NOW IT CONTAINS A SINGLE TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING PROPOSED IN SECTION 4.8. ONE OF GDC GIVES PLANNING COMMISSION THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE VARIANCES AND TO APPROVE A SIGN VARIANCE WHEN STRICT COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE WOULD RESULT IN HARDSHIP OR INEQUITY TO THE APPLICANT. SO APPROVAL OF SIGN VARIANCE 
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REQUIRES THREE QUARTERS VOTE OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT AND PRESENT AND VOTING, AND THE SECTION 4.81 AGAIN ALLOWS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE AN INCREASE UP TO 25% OF MAXIMUM PERMITTED SIGN AREA. SO THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN ILLUMINATED ATTACHED WALL SIGN CONSISTING OF THE CRUNCH LOGO AND THE TERM FITNESS CHANNEL LETTERS AND. THUS THE CODE GENERALLY ALLOWS ONE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGNAGE PER LINEAR FOOT OF FALL ON WHICH THE SIGNAGE MOUNTED. BUT ESTABLISHES AN OVERALL MAXIMUM HUNDRED SQUARE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF SIGN WALL WALL SIGN. BUT HERE IN THE EXHIBIT. SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IT ON THE NORTHWEST NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE WALL. THE TWO AT THE CENTER. AND HERE IS THE DETAILED EXHIBIT OF THE SIGN. THE EXHIBIT SHOWS, I MEAN. SORRY. SO THE NORTHEAST FACADE IS APPROXIMATELY 184.57 LINEAR FEET. SOO ALTHOUGH THE FACADE ITSELF IS RELATIVELY LARGE, THE GDC ESTABLISHES AN OVERALL MAXIMUM SIGN AREA OF 100FT■S. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE CRUNCH FITNESS. THE CRUNCH LOGO IS APPROXIMATELY 80FT■S, AND THE FITNESS LETTERS ARE APPROXIMATELY 44.18FT■S. TOGETHER, THE PROPOSED SIGN AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 124.7 FIVE SQUARE FEET. THEREFORE, DESPITE THE APPROXIMATE. DESPITE THE 180FT 180 FOOT FACADE, THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED SIGN AREA IS 100. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 124.77 FIVE SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS 24.75 INCREASE, WHICH IS WELL WITHIN 25% MAXIMUM VARIANCE. AUTHORITY STAMP FINDS THAT THERE MIGHT BE A HARDSHIP CONCERNING THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIGN, BECAUSE THE NORTHEAST FACADE IS APPROXIMATELY 191 85FT■S FROM THE NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, AND EXISTING MATURE TREES REDUCE VISIBILITY VISIBILITY FROM THE ROAD. YOU CAN FIND THAT ON LIKE THE SECOND PICTURE ON IN THE SECOND ROW. AND THERE IS LIKE THE HUGE PARKING LOT WITHIN THAT ONE 185FT. AND THE PROPOSED SIGN REMAINS PROPORTIONATE TO THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING FACADE. THE STAFF WE HAVE MAILED ABOUT LIKE 94 NOTICES TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. WE RECEIVED TWO AGAINST THE REQUEST, BUT THEY HAVEN'T MENTIONED ANY REASONS. JUST THIS. I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER DALTON, THANK YOU. THE REQUEST FOR VARIANCE IS ONLY FOR THE NORTHWEST HIGHWAY SIDE OF THE BUILDING, CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO THE CENTERVILLE ROAD SIDE, THERE'S NO PROBLEMS THERE? NO, IT'S ALL GOOD. I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. YEAH. I GOT TWO MORE. COMMISSIONER ABEL AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS. HERE WE GO. HERE WE GO. THIS MAY BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS ON YOUR PICTURES, THERE'S CRAPE MYRTLES FLANKING EACH SIDE. ARE THEY PLANNING TO TAKE THAT CRAPE MYRTLEE ON THE RIGHT? DOWN. IS THAT OR IS IT GOING TO BE BEHIND THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE BEHIND THAT. ACTUALLY, INITIALLY THE APPLICANT PROPOSED IT ON THE WEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING WHERE THERE ARE LIKE MORE DENSITY OF YOU CAN FIND MORE DENSE TREES ON THAT SIDE. RIGHT. BUT WE KIND OF RECOMMENDED HIM TO CHANGE THE LOCATION. THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW ON THE ON HIS EXHIBIT. LIKE HE CHANGED IT TO CENTER OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS, IT LOOKS LIKE MUCH BETTER LOCATION THAN WHAT IT DOES LOOK LIKE A BETTER LOCATION. BUT YEAH, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE BEHIND THE TREE. YEAH. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DOES 24FT■S MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHENEVER HALF OF THAT IS BEHIND THAT? THAT MAY BE I THINK THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO TRIM THE TREES. I. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. MR. CHAIR, GOOD EVENING SIR. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE MANY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE EARLIER. I APPRECIATE THAT JUST TO AFFIRM, THIS REQUEST IS NOT OUT OF LINE FOR THE THE CHARACTER OF THE RECENT APPROVALS REGARDING SIGN VARIATIONS. IS THAT CORRECT? AND EVEN I DIDN'T ASK. BUT EVEN AS WE'RE CONTEMPLATING THE CHASE FURTHER DOWN ON 
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CENTERVILLE, WHICH ALSO REQUESTED A VARIANCE, WE'RE STILL IN LINE WITH WITH THOSE REQUESTS, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. JUST AS A NOTE, WE'LL REMIND YOU THIS REQUIRES A THREE FOURTHS VOTE IN ORDER TO PASS NINE OF US HERE. THAT WILL MEAN A VOTE OF SEVEN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT THE APPLICANT'S CARD HERE, J MOON, YOU CARE TO ADDRESS US AT ALL? OR IF YOU WANT TO COME ON DOWN OR NOT. EITHER WAY. OR MAYBE JUST QUESTIONS. GOOD EVENING. I'M THE APPLICANT WITH SIGN CRAFTERS. I DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING. AND JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT, VACANT FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND THE TREES HAVE OVERGROWN. SO WE GOT TOGETHER AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TREES ARE NOT REMOVABLE, BUT ABSOLUTELY THEY WILL BE TRIMMED DOWN APPROPRIATELY SO THAT THE SIGN IS VISIBLE TO THE STREET, WHICH IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL, RIGHT? OTHER THAN THAT, PRETTY MUCH ADDRESSED EVERYTHING. I MEAN, FROM THE BUILDING TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 180FT OF DISTANCE. THE LETTERS THEMSELVES ARE ABOUT 36IN. THE LOGO IS JUST ABOVE SEVEN FEET, AND I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT ON THE BUILDING ITSELF. THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLILICANT? O, NAME AND ADDRESS. THANK YOU. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. JAY MOON WITH SIGN CRAFTERS AND ADDRESS. OH. BUSINESS ADDRESS. YEAH. 02743 LIPSCOMB STREET, FORT WORTH, TEXAS 76110. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM. 
          ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO SPEAK ON IT? SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONERS. MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. BECAUSE OF THE NEW SYSTEM, YOU'LL HAVE TO HIT THE MOTION BUTTON. OTHERWISE SHE CAN'T SET UP A VOTE. OKAY. MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCIDO. 
          I GUESS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE MOTION IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. PREPARE TO VOTE. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. NEXT 
          [b. Z 26-22 Lone Star Green Homes (District 3)]
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. ITEM TWO. B HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER THE APPLICATION. LONE STAR GREEN HOMES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 22-67 TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY FIVE SF FIVE DISTRICT TO ALLOW A DWELLING, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT AND AMEND CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AND THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 2020 50 EAST MILLER HIGH. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON. COMMISSIONERS STEWART STORY PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 22-67 TO CHANGE THE BASE ZONING DESIGNATION FROM SF A TO SF FIVE TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT AND AMEND CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 2020 50 EAST MILLER ROAD, IS APPROXIMATELY 11.16 ACRES AND IS LOCATED WITHIN DISTRICT THREE. HERE'S OUR ZONING MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS. IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH IS AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD ZONED SF TEN. TO THE EAST IS MERRYWOOD RANCH AND EXISTING COMMERCIAL STABLE WITH A USE WITHIN PD DISTRICT 14-11 WITH AN SF TEN BASE ZONING TO THE NORTH ACROSS MILLER ROAD IS VACANT. COMMERCIAL COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY AND TO THE WEST ACROSS CENTERVILLE ROAD ARE AN EXISTING FUEL STATION AND A SMALL, MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING CONTAINING RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES. OVERALL, THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
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THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES PORTIONS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. WHILE THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DESIGNATION, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD OBJECTIVES. BY REDUCING THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY AND CHANGING THE TYPE OF USE CLOSER TO WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED IN A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD AREA. WHILE THIS PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN AN ECONOMIC ONE OF O ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT FOCUS AREAS, IT DOES STILL ACHIEVE THE SAME GOAL OF IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF OF THE AREA WITH A QUALITY PRODUCT. HERE WE GOT SOME PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM MILLER ROAD, WHILE THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS LOOKING EAST FROM CENTERVILLE. AS SHOWN, THE PROPERTY REMAINS UNDEVELOPED TODAY AND HAS FRONTAGE ALONG BOTH THOROUGHFARES. HERE WE GO. HERE WE GOT THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 63 TO 68 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS CONSISTING OF TWO DIFFERENT LOT TYPES. THE ORANGE LOT SHOWN ON THE PLAN ARE IDENTIFIED AS TYPE A LOTS, WHILE THE PURPLE LOTS ALONG THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ARE TYPE B. THE PLAN ALSO INCLUDES OPEN SPACE AREAS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND PROPOSED AMENITY LOCATIONS. 
          ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PROVIDED FROM MILLER ROAD. RIGHT HERE WE GOT THE REFERENCE ELEVATIONS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. THESE ELEVATIONS ARE CONCEPTUAL AND DEMONSTRATE THE GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER ANTICIPATED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. AS SHOWN, THE PROPOSED HOMES UTILIZE FRONT FACING GARAGES AND WILL PROVIDE ACCESS DESIGN ELEMENTS TO OFFSET THE GARAGE PROMINENCE ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE APPLICANT'S PD AMENDMENT REQUEST INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS. SO THE. THE FIRST PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE BASE ZONING. IT IS CURRENTLY SF. SF A AND THEY'RE PROPOSING SF FIVE. THEN AS FAR AS DENSITY UNDER THE CURRENT PD, THEY ARE AUTHORIZED FOR 90 DWELLING UNITS, WHICH COMES OUT TO ROUGHLY EIGHT DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. AND NOW THEY'RE PROPOSING A RANGE BETWEEN 63 TO 68, WHICH COMES TO ABOUT SIX UNITS PER ACRE. THEN FOR THE LOT AREA, CURRENTLY, THE PD ALLOWS FOR 1500FT■S LOTS, WHILE OUR TYPICAL SF FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE 5000FT■S. THEY HAVE THE TWO DIFFERENT LOTS FOR TYPE A, THEY'RE PROPOSING A MINIMUM OF 4100FT■S, AND FOR TYPE B THAT WOULD BE 3600FT■S. MOVING ON TO THE MINIMUM LOT WITH THE CURRENT PD ALLOWS FOR THE INTERIOR LOTS TO BE 20FT WIDE, WITH THE CORNER LOTS BEING 30FT WIDE AND SF FIVE WOULD TYPICALLY ALLOW FOR THOSE INTERIOR LOTS TO BE 55FT WIDE WITH 60FT WIDE AT THE CORNERS. NOW THEY ARE PROPOSING 40FT WIDE FOR INTERIOR LOTS AND 50FT WIDE FOR CORNER LOTS FOR THE LOT DEPTH. CURRENTLY, THE PD ALLOWS FOR 65FT IN DEPTH FOR THE LOTS, AND WHILE OUR SF FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE 90FT, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOR TYPE A LOTS 100, A MINIMUM OF 110FT IN DEPTH, WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS, ALLOWING THAT TO GO DOWN TO 90FT FOR THOSE LOTS. SPECIFICALLY GOING ALONG ELBOWS, KNUCKLES OR CUL DE SAC, CUL DE SACS. AND THEN FOR TYPE B, IT WOULD BE 90FT IN DEPTH ACROSS THE BOARD FOR MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. CURRENTLY, THE PD ALLOWS FOR 77% AND OUR SF FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE 50%. AND THEY'RE MEETING US SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE AT 65% FOR THE SIDE YARD. WHEN ADJACENT TO A STREET, IT. CURRENTLY IT WOULD BE TEN FEET. SETBACK. THE SF FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE 15FT SETBACK. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT SAME 15 FOOT SETBACK. THE DIFFERENCE IS GOING TO BE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE CORNER LOT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A CORNER LOT TO FOLLOW. TWO FRONT SETBACKS, ESSENTIALLY, INSTEAD OF A FRONT AND A SIDE. FOR ARCHITECTURAL RELIEF IN THE CURRENT PD, FLAT WALLS MAY NOT EXCEED 30FT IN LENGTH, WHILE OUR SF FIVE STANDARD CURRENTLY WOULD BE A. SIMILARLY. BUT INSTEAD OF GOING 
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BY LENGTH, IT WOULD BE AT 20% OF THE FACADE, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT TO UP TO 40% OF THE FLAT WALL LENGTH TO BE ALLOWED, OR WINDOW AND DOOR COVERAGE. CURRENTLY, THE PD ALLOWS FOR A MINIMUM OF 25% OF FRONT FACADES TO INCLUDE WINDOWS AND DOORS, AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GARAGE DOOR IN THE CALCULATION, AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME STANDARD UNDER SF FIVE. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO KEEP THE SAME 25%, BUT INCLUDE THE GARAGE DOORS IN THE CALCULATION, AS WELL AS EXCLUDE THE GABLED ROOF AREAS FROM THE CALCULATION. 
          SO THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS THE GARAGE DOORS KIND OF TAKE UP EVEN MORE OF THE CALCULATION. 
          FOR DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE TYPICAL REQUIREMENT IS GOING TO BE THE SAME FOR THE CURRENT PD AND SF STANDARD, WHICH IS A MINIMUM OF THREE DESIGN ELEMENTS FROM THE LIST SHOWN IN THE GDC. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT TO FIVE DESIGN ELEMENTS, AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO EXPAND THE. THE MENU FOUND IN THE GDC TO INCLUDE COACH LIGHTS, AS WELL AS CARRIAGE STYLE GARAGE DOORS AND ENHANCED DRIVEWAY FINISHES. 
          TYPICALLY, WE WOULD REQUIRE ALLEYS IN AN SF FIVE DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, THE CURRENT PD DOES NOT REQUIRE THEM, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO GENERALLY FOLLOW KIND OF THE EXISTING LAYOUT THAT IS ALREADY APPROVED. AND AS SUCH, THERE ARE REQUESTING TO NOT PROVIDE ALLEYS. AND THEN FOR THE TYPE B LOTS, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE BACKING INTO AN EXISTING ALLEY OF THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION. AND SO THOSE LOTS WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT ALLEY. AND SINCE THEY WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT ALLEY, THEY'LL JUST HAVE THEIR TYPICAL TEN FEET REAR SETBACK. LIKE IF THEY WERE IN ABUTTING A STREET. OR GARAGE PLACEMENT. THE CURRENT PD REQUIRES A 20 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE STREET AND DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY OFFSET ON THE FRONT. THE SF FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE THAT SAME 20 FOOT SETBACK. HOWEVER, IT WOULD REQUIRE A FIVE FOOT OFFSET FROM THE FRONT FACADE TO CREATE SOME ARTICULATION AND VISUAL INTEREST ON THE FACADE FACING THE STREET. THE PROPOSAL IS TO RETAIN THE 20 FOOT SETBACK. 
          HOWEVER, TO REDUCE THAT FIVE FOOT OFFSET TO SIX INCH EITHER FORWARD OR BACKWARD OR THOROUGHFARE SCREENING ARE TYPICAL STANDARD, AND THE THE ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTED IN THE PD WOULD BE AIX FOOT TALL MASONRY WALL WITH CANOPY TREES EVERY 50FT. 
          THE APPLICANT PROPOSES, INSTEAD OF THE MASONRY WALL, TO INSTALL A ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS EVERY 50FT APART ALONG THE FRONTAGE, AS WELL AS CANOPY TREES BETWEEN THE COLUMNS EVERY 50FT APART AS WELL. CURRENTLY, THE PD REQUIRES THREE AMENITIES AND THOSE ARE TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS, GAZEBOS WITH PICNIC TABLES, BICYCLE RACKS AND GRILLS, AS WELL AS A PLAYGROUND. NOW, OUR TYPICAL SF FIVE DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY AMENITIES, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MINIMUM OF TWO AMENITIES, AND THEY ARE INCREASING THE MENU A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT'S EXISTING TO INCLUDE PLAYGROUNDS, GAZEBOS, SPORTS COURTS AND A DOG PARK. AND I GUESS THE REASON THAT WE REQUESTED THAT OR THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THAT IS SINCE THEY ARE LOWERING THE SIZE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT, THEY ARE KIND OF REDUCING THE INDIVIDUAL OPEN SPACE THAT EACH LOT HAS ACCESS TO. AND SO THEREFORE THEY'RE KIND OF MAKING UP FOR THAT SPACE IF IT'S PUBLIC OR NOT PUBLIC, BUT SHARED SPACE. THEN TRY MONUMENTS ARE PERMITTED BOTH UNDER THE CURRENT PD AND ANY TYPICAL SF FIVE DEVELOPMENT. 
          HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED. AND SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REQUIRE A ENTRY MONUMENT AS PART OF THIS REQUEST. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS FOR THE THOROUGHFARE SCREENING, WE RECOMMEND INCREASING THE TREE PLANTING RATIO TO EVERY 30FT FROM THE. INSTEAD OF THE 50FT THAT IS 
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PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, AS WELL AS ADDING A CONTINUOUS ROW OF SCREENING SHRUBS SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE ORNAMENTAL ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE AREA TO FOLLOW THE INTENT OF THE CODE AND CREATE A OPAQUE SCREENING METHOD. AND FOR THE COACH LIGHTS AS A DESIGN ELEMENT, THE APPLICANT PROPOSED ONE COACH LIGHT TO BE COUNTED TOWARDS AS A DESIGN ELEMENT. 
          OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IN ORDER TO COUNT AS ONE DESIGN ELEMENT, THAT THEY PROVIDE TWO TO PROVIDE SOME MORE SYMMETRY ALONG THE FACADES OF THE HOMES FOR THE WINDOW AND DOOR COVERAGE, THEY PROPOSE, A MINIMUM OF 25% OF FRONT FACADES MUST INCLUDE WINDOWS AND DOORS, AND WE PROPOSE THAT THAT BE INCREASED TO 55%. THE REASON FOR SUCH A HIGH INCREASE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING TO NOT COUNT THE GABLED WALLS IN THAT REQUIREMENT. AND SINCE THE GARAGE DOORS ARE GOING TO END UP TAKING QUITE A BIT OF AT FRONT FACADE. INCREASING ITO 55%, THEREFORE ENSURES THAT THEY'LL STILL PROVIDE WINDOWS AND DOORS BEYOND JUST THE GARAGE. FOR THE GARAGE PLACEMENT. AND THEY THE. THEY RECOMMENDED OR THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT THE OFFSET BE SIX INCHES, EITHER FORWARD OR BACKWARD. WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT ONLY BE BACKWARD TO AVOID FURTHER ACCENTUATING THE GARAGE, WHICH WILL ALREADY KIND OF FEATURE VERY STRONGLY IN THE FRONT FACADE OF THE BUILDINGS. FOR THE. AND THEN WE ALSO RECOMMEND A. ALONG THE THOROUGHFARE FRONTAGE WITH THE THOROUGHFARE FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ONE BENCH AND ONE TRASH RECEPTACLE FOR EVERY 150FT OF FRONTAGE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE WAS A MULTIFAMILY THAT RECENTLY CAME IN NEARBY. AND THIS BEING A STILL A HIGHER THAN USUAL DENSITY PROJECT, WE ANTICIPATE MORE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY IN THE AREA. AND AS SUCH, WE ALSO WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED ALONG MILLER ALONG CENTERVILLE BE EIGHT FEET WIDE INSTEAD OF THE CITY STANDARD, WHICH WOULD BE SIX FEET WIDE. THEN FOR AMENITIES, THEY PROVIDED THE. THE MENU AND JUST WERE KIND OF BROAD AND KIND OF ALLOWING FOR A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY FOR THE APPLICANT. THEY DID INCLUDE SOME STANDARDS FOR THE GAZEBO SPECIFICALLY THAT IT MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 150FT■S AND A MINIMUM OF A SEATING AREA FOR SIX PEOPLE, AS WELL AS INCLUDING A TRASH RECEPTACLE. AND STAFF WOULD LIKE TO FURTHER ESTABLISH SOME MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE OPTIONS. SO FOR THE PLAYGROUND, A MINIMUM AREA OF 1000FT■S AND A MINIMUM OF TWO PIECES OF PERMANENT CHILDREN'S PLAY EQUIPMENT BENCHES, AT LEAST THREE ORNAMENTAL TREES AND AT LEAST ONE TRASH RECEPTACLE, AS WELL AS A MINIMUM OF TWO BICYCLE RACKS. FOR THE GAZEBO, WE WOULD RECOMMEND INCREASING THE SEATING TO A MINIMUM OF EIGHT PEOPLE AND ADDING A MINIMUM OF TWO BICYCLE RACKS. FOR THE SPORTS COURT, WE RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING. A SPORTS COURT SHALL BE FULLY CONSTRUCTED AND EQUIPPED FOR ITS INTENDED RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY, WHICH MAY INCLUDE, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO, BASKETBALL, PICKLEBALL OR A MULTI-PURPOSE COURT. THE COURT SHALL INCLUDE ALL PERMANENT SURFACING, STRIPING AND RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT NECESSARY FOR ITS INTENDED USE, AS WELL AS BENCHES AND AT LEAST ONE TRASH RECEPTACLE AND A MINIMUM OF TWO BICYCLE RACKS. AND FINALLY, FOR THE DOG PARK, WE WOULD RECOMMEND A MINIMUM AREA OF 3000FT■S, WHICH SHALL BE FULLY ENCLOSED BY A FENCE OF A MINIMUM OF FOUR FEET IN HEIGHT. 
          THE DOG PARK SHALL INCLUDE A DOUBLE GATED ENTRY, A PET WASTE, A WASTE STATION, BENCHES, A SHADED SEATING AREA AND AT LEAST ONE TRASH RECEPTACLE, AS WELL AS A MINIMUM OF TWO BICYCLE RACKS. WE SENT OUT A TOTAL OF 72 NOTIFICATION LETTERS, AND WE RECEIVED ONE 
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AGAINST WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FORMULATING. NOTHING YET. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JENKINS THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. SORRY. FIRST TO BEGIN. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO MY EMAILS EARLIER TODAY REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. I'VE GOT TO BE HONEST. IT'S IT'S IT'S A LOT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE. 
          THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF VARIANCES. AND I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, IS IT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE PRIOR PRE PD OR THEY'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS AND BUILD AN UPSCALE PRODUCT. SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH. SO I GUESS IT'S REALLY A MIX, RIGHT? WE CERTAINLY WANT SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THEY ARE CHANGING THE USES FROM A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, THE PREFERENCE OF THE CITY WOULD OF COURSE BE FOR OUR STANDARD TO BE MET. AND NOW UNDERSTANDING THAT DOES NOT PARTICULARLY PALATABLE FOR THEM OR FEASIBLE FOR THEM. WE KIND OF HAVE TO MEET THEM SOMEWHERE HALFWAY. RIGHT? OKAY. NO THANK YOU. A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE MADE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO INCREASE THE FOR EXAMPLE, THE LIGHT POST INSTEAD OF ONE SHOULD BE TWO. MY ONLY QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS POINT RELATING TO THE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE THE ADDITION OF NATIVE LANDSCAPE. 
          DROUGHT RESISTANT, DROUGHT TOLERANT GRASSES AND TREES AND THE LIKE. I JUST THINK THAT WOULD SAVE THEM LONG TERM, SEEING AS HOW THERE'S AN HOA THAT'S GOING TO BE IN PLACE, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO KEEP THEIR COSTS DOWN AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LANDSCAPING COMPANY DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING LATER ON. BUT THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          SOMETHING THAT IS NOT INCLUDED RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY THROW THAT IN. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT I'VE GOT SOME FIRST OF ALL, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, VICE CHAIR JENKINS IS RIGHT. THERE WERE YOU'RE JUGGLING A LOT OF BALLS ON THIS ONE. WELL DONE SIR. THANK YOU. AND I UNDERSTAND THIS HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO THE APPLICANT, BUT FOR THE APPLICANT AND COMMISSION I HAD SOME THOUGHTS BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT MORE QUALITY, BETTER VALUE AND ALL OF THAT. FIRST OF ALL, YEAH, WE'RE GOING LOWER DENSITY. BUT I THINK IT'LL LOWER DENSITY IS PROBABLY MORE CALLED FOR IN THIS SITE TO BEGIN WITH. AND THE FRONT FACING GARAGES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BOTHER TO ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE NOT RECESSED. I HAD A PROPOSAL OF MAYBE 50% OF THE GARAGES, MAYBE 40% ARE RECESSED FIVE FEET. BUT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. WE'VE GOT 20 FOOT SETBACKS BY ORDINANCE NOW, BUT IF WE ALLOWED PORCHES OR OTHER PARTS OF THE HOUSE, NOT THE GARAGE, TO COME FORWARD TO 15FT, THAT WOULD CREATE THE OFFSET IN THE ARTICULATION WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          SO THAT'S ONE PROPOSAL. THAT'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE ACTUALLY BE RECESSED LIKE THAT. AND ON THIS I SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT SOME ALLEYS IN NOT THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION, BUT JUST SOME ALLEYS. AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A MIX OF FRONT AND REAR FACING GARAGES, WHICH WOULD GIVE US A MIX ON THE STREET, POSSIBLY FEWER CARS IN THE STREET. AND AGAIN, HOPEFULLY BRING UP THE VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AGAIN, THIS COULD BE DONE BY SINCE THEY HAVE TO HAVE 20FT IN THE BACK TOO FOR THE GARAGE AND ALLEY, TAKING THAT AGAIN, POSSIBLY PUSHING THE FRONT BUILDING LINE TO 15FT, POSSIBLY EVEN TEN FEET OR SOMETHING. BUT THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME ARTICULATION ALONG THE STREET. AND A MORE INTERESTING ONE, AND I AGREE WITH STAFF'S INFORMATION ON THE WINDOWS AND GABLES. THEY DO THROW CALCULATIONS OFF. SO I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANTS APPROACH ON THAT. NOW THE THOROUGHFARE SCREENING, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO INTEREST AND CREATING SOMETHING NICE INSTEAD OF FULL MASONRY WALL OR FULL METAL, MAYBE 50, 50, 60, 40, SOME MASONRY WALL IN THERE. SO AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, IT'S PART OF MASONRY, PART OPEN. SO AGAIN, IT LOOKS BETTER COMING ALONG. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A BENCH, HAVE IT BACK UP TO THE MASONRY. SO PEOPLE IN THE BACKYARD AREN'T LOOKING AT WHOEVER'S SITTING INHE BENCH ALL THE TIME. ALONG WITH THAT, WITH THE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK. IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. GOT IT. IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEANDER THAT SIDEWALK AT ALL. AND AGAIN, THAT'LL COME TO ENGINEERING AND 
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EVERYTHING. BUT IF YOU CAN MEANDER THE SIDEWALKS, THAT AGAIN CREATES MORE INTEREST AND HOPEFULLY A BETTER VALUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IN TERMS OF COST. AMENITIES, HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD HAVE THEM ALL IN PLACE BEFORE THE FIRST CO IN THE HOUSE, BUT THAT COULD ALSO BE A CONDITION. AND OTHER THAN THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE CHAIRMAN MAKES A GREAT POINT RELATING TO THE PARKING. IS THERE ANY. I SEE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CUL DE SACS. ARE THERE ANY OFF STREET PARKING IDENTIFIED BY THE APPLICANT? AT THIS POINT? THERE IS NOT ANY LIKE SEPARATE GUEST PARKING. 
          HOWEVER, EACH LOT DOES HAVE THE. THE DRIVEWAY WHERE ONE GUEST PARKING COULD BE. OBSERVED, I GUESS. SURE. AND FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. 
          SEVERALF THOSE COMMUNITIES ALONG CENTERVILLE HAVE MASONRY WALLS, I BELIEVE. I BELIEVE AS YOU COME DOWN, MILLER, WITH THE NEW MULTIFAMILY THAT'S BEEN PUT IN PLACE, THEY DO HAVE THE OPEN SCREENING CONCEPT, BUT THE MASONRY IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ALONG THE CORRIDORS. OR SO I COULD TOTALLY SEE A 6040 OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MORE LEANING TOWARD THE MASONRY. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. AND A COUPLE THINGS. ONE, IN SINGLE FAMILY, TYPICALLY WE DON'T REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING. SO THAT'S COVERED THERE. AND IN TERMS OF MASONRY, IF I WERE BUYING A HOE AND I HAD A CHOICE OF A LOT WITH A MASONRY WALL OR ONE WITH WROUGHT IRON, I THINK I'D GO WITH MASONRY FOR THE PRIVACY. SO THERE'S THAT TOO, IN TERMS OF SALES FOR THEM. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. ALL RIGHT. I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE. MR. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME OUT OF. YOU. CARE TO SPEAK. AND YOU'RE PROBABLY MR. SMITH. RIGHT. AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAMES AND ADDRESSES, PLEASE, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS COLTON SMITH WITH SPIRES APPLICANT. ADDRESS IS 765THE CUSTER ROAD, PLANO, TEXAS, 75075. HE'S LEAVING YOU WITH IT. SO I'M 4516 STREET, IRVING, TEXAS, 75062. THANK YOU. SO I'LL START AND THEN I CAN CHIME IN IF NECESSARY. WELL, THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD QUESTIONS AND THANKS, STUART FOR THE DETAILED PRESENTATION THERE. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. AS YOU HEARD, 90 CURRENTLY ZONED FOR 90 TOWNHOMES LOOKING TO REDUCE DENSITY TO SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED PRODUCT THAT WE THINK WILL BE A BENEFIT IN THIS AREA AS COMPARED TO THOSE TOWNHOM WE PROVIDED FOR AMENITIES AND COMMON AREAS WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST REQUESTING THE DEVIATIONS FROM SF FIVE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT HERE. SO STUART WENT OVER SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF. WE HAD RECEIVED THOSE CONDITIONS JUST LAST THURSDAY. SO SINCE THEN WE'VE MET WITH STAFF AND ACTUALLY WORKED THROUGH SEVERAL OF THOSE. WE AGREED GENERALLY WITH WITH MOST OF THAT LIST, BUT HAD A FEW THAT WE WERE STILL TWEAKING WITH THEM AND WORKING WITH THEM TO COME TO A RESOLUTION ON. WE CAN GET INTO THOSE IN DETAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE TONIGHT IS SOME RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO KEEP WORKSHOPPING THOSE WITH STAFF A LITTLE BIT PRIOR TO COUNCIL, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO GET TO SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE GIVEN THE SHORT TIME FRAME. WE'VE HAD HAD THOSE CONDITIONS ON OUR PLATE, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ALREADY CAME UP, AND WE RECEIVED YOUR QUESTIONS EARLIER TODAY. SO THE RECESSED GARAGES, I THINK WAS THE FIRST ONE, JUST IN SPEAKING WITH MANY A VARIETY OF BUILDERS, RECESSED GARAGES ARE JUST A REAL CHALLENGE TO GET A PRODUCT. THE SIX INCH RECESSION THAT WE HAVE IN THERE, WE'RE FINE WITH STAFF'S PROPOSED CONDITION OF NOT SIX INCHES PROTRUDING, BUT SIX INCHES RECESSED. FIVE FOOT IS JUST A REAL CHALLENGE. TO OFFSET THAT, WE'VE ADDED INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES FROM THREE TO 3 TO 5, WHICH IDEALLY WOULD OFFSET SOME OF THAT MONOTONY AND GIVE SOME MORE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES IN LIEU OF THAT GARAGE OFFSET WAS THE THOUGHT. THERE ALLEYS WILL BE A CHALLENGE ON THIS RECENTLY, WITH HOME BUILDERS AND THEIR BUYERS. THE THOUGHT IS THAT WITHOUT ALLEYS, YOU GET A MUCH HIGHER QUALITY BACKYARD FOR THE HOMEOWNER IS REALLY THE MOTIVATION THERE. A MASONRY VERSUS WROUGHT IRON FENCE OR ORNAMENTAL METAL RATHER. WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH SOME PORTION OF MASONRY, NOT NOT THE WHOLE WALL. WE THINK IT PROVIDES SOME INTEREST FROM THE STREETSCAPE. IF YOU HAVE A MIXTURE OF 
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BETWEEN COLUMNS, TREES, WROUGHT IRON, MASONRY, BUT THAT EXACT PERCENTAGE WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT TO LAND ON MEANDERING THE SIDEWALK. I THINK THAT THAT'S AN EASY ONE. YEAH, THAT MEANDERING SIDEWALK MAKES A TON OF SENSE AND IS EASY TO DO FOR THIS CASE. AMENITIES BEFORE ISSUING, COS THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ENTER THAT INTO THE PD AND OFF STREET PARKING I THINK YOU ALL SPOKE TO, BUT WE'RE RELYING ON THE FOUR SPACES TO IN THE GARAGE TO IN THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS PRETTY TYPICAL FOR SINGLE FAMILY. BUT I'M HAPPY TO SWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR FOR COMING BACK TO US. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO IDENTIFY FEATURES, TO MAKE THIS AN UPSCALE PRODUCT, TO REALLY IMPROVE THE NATURE OF THE HOUSING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. WERE THERE ANY PARTICULAR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT YOU WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT YOU THOUGHT WOULD BE PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT, OR ANY ITEMS OF FLEXIBILITY THAT YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD KIND OF GIVE YOU, GIVE YOU SOME, SOME BREATHING ROOM ON. THAT'D BE HELPFUL TO KNOW. NOW, AS FAR AS ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, WE FOLLOWED THE CITY'S LIST THAT'S IN THE GDC AND ADDED A FEW ADDITIONAL. I THINK WE HAD ENHANCED DRIVEWAYS, SOME OF THE COACH LIGHTS, AND I BELIEVE STUART MENTIONED OTHER ITEMS THERE. NOTHING IN PARTICULAR, JUST A LOT OF VARIETY, I THINK IS THE INTENT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE MONOTONY WITH ALL OF YOUR FRONTS AND GIVE MORE OPTIONALITY THERE AS TO WHAT CAN FACE THE STREET. THE ONE ITEM WE ARE STILL WORKING ON IS THAT DOOR AND WINDOW CALCULATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE GABLES, THAT GOT A LITTLE COMPLICATED. SO I THINK WE WANT TO WORK WITH STAFF TO JUST SIMPLIFY THAT CALCULATION DOWN TO A NUMBER THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE THE MAIN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT AND THE GARAGE RECESSION THAT I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO WITH SIX INCHES BEHIND RATHER THAN THE, THE I'M SORRY, IT DOES SOUND LIKE YOU'RE, YOU ARE AMENABLE TO THE IDEA OF THE MEANDERING PATHWAY MEANDERING. SO I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH MEANDERING PATHWAY. THE ONE CHANGE WE TALKED ABOUT THERE IS ALONG CENTERVILLE, YOU HAVE AN EXISTING SIX FOOT PATH, AND JUST TO THE SOUTH YOU'VE GOT A RETAINING WALL THAT MAKES THAT IT HAS TO BE SIX FEET. SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY MAINTAINING THAT SIX FOOT RATHER THAN GOING FROM 6 TO 8. AND IT ALWAYS LOOKS BETTER IF YOU HAVE A CONSISTENT WIDTH. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND PRESENTING TO US TWO QUESTIONS. WERE THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY? DID YOU REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS? W DIDN'T REACH OUT, BUT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'VE HAD SUPPORTIVE PHONE CALLS. GIVEN THE REDUCTION IN DENSITY AND GOING FROM TOWNHOMES TO DETACHED. OKAY. I KNOW WE HAD ONE THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION, BUT THEY DIDN'T GIVE ANY COMMENTS ON THEIR FORM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REASONING WAS THERE. OKAY. AND IF YOU GET APPROVAL, LIKE WHEN WHAT'S THE TIMELINE, THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE TO GET STARTED? WE DON'T HAVE A FIRM TIMELINE. I KNOW THE APPLICANT'S INTENT IS TO MARKET THIS TO HOME BUILDERS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          THESE INFILL DEALS ARE IN HIGH DEMAND RIGHT NOW, SO I'D IMAGINE IT WOULD GET DEVELOPED FAIRLY QUICKLY. OKAY. FIRM TIMELINE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT ONE. WHAT IS THE SIZE, RANGE AND SALES PRICE RANGE? DO YOU DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE HOMES. YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE A BUILDER IDENTIFIED YET. SO WE'LL NEED TO HAVE A BUILDER PRIOR TO THAT. YEAH. 
          OKAY. ALRIGHTY. YEAH. THE ONE ELEVATION YOU SHOWED IS KIND OF PLAIN IN NATURE AND THAT'S WHY. 
          WHY ARE YOU WORKING WITH STAFF? IF YOU CAN, I'D BE WILLING TO INCLUDE A CONDITION OF A 15 FOOT FRONT YARD TO ALLOW YOU TO COME FORWARD A LITTLE BIT WITH THE PORCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AGAIN, TO PROVIDE ARTICULATION. OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. I THINK NOT HAVING A BUILDER, WE WERE TRYING TO PROVIDE SOMETHING GENERAL THAT WAS ACHIEVABLE RATHER THAN, YEAH, JUST PRESENT SOMETHING. THIS WOULD OPEN THEIR OPTIONS TO. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. OR DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO OR YOU GOT IT COVERED. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE. ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? SEEING NONE. 
          COMMISSIONERS. MOTION DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU. JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION, I SUPPOSE, AND I THINK, CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE THE PERFECT PERSON TO 
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ANSWER THE QUESTION. I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN. I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO LEAN FORWARD HERE. 
          YEAH, LOUDLY AS I CAN. I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN IF WE REACHED ANY CERTAINTY REGARDING THE NUMBER. 
          I KNOW STAFF HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE SCREENING. ARE WE SAYING PROPOSING THAT THE RECOMMENDATION BE LEFT OPEN OR SUBJECT TO STAFF'S APPROVAL? YEAH, YEAH. THERE'S PLENTY OF THE WORK OUR STAFF YET AND WE WE KEEP DUMPING THEM STUFF TO DO. SO IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND METAL FENCING TO BE WORKED OUT BY STAFF. AND WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS DROUGHT TOLERANT AND NATIVE AND THE LIKE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT OR AN OPTION OR A SUGGESTION. IT CAN BE A REQUIREMENT. AND I'D LIKE TO BE FAIR, SINCE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN TO GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO IF THE APPLICANT IS CERTAINLY OKAY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT, INCLUDING THAT ANY LANDSCAPING OR SCREENING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN PLACE IS GOING TO BE THERE 20 YEARS FROM NOW. I'D BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK PRETTY IMPORTANT AT THIS POINT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A, THERE'S A ON THE TABLE AT THIS POINT IS A. 
          YEAH, SCREAM. WHAT WHAT HE'S PROPOSING IS A CONDITION THAT THE PLANTING BE DROUGHT TOLERANT SO THAT IT LASTS LONGER, DOESN'T TAKE AS MUCH WATER, ETC. I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT WITH STAFF BEFORE COUNCIL AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S WORKABLE THAT THAT'S A IF WE BOTH COME TO A RESOLUTION THAT'S REASONABLE, WE'LL LOOK AT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION? I'LL JUST HAVE ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GO THROUGH IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER. SO THE DENSITY GETS REDUCED TO SAY FIVE AS A BASE ZONING FOR THIS. AND SO IF WE WERE TO TURN IT DOWN FLAT, IT WOULD GO BACK TO TOWNHOMES. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A NEIGHBORS WOULD PROBABLY APPRECIATE IT IF WE SCALED DOWN THE DENSITY. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER ABEL. YEAH. HERE WE GO. I JUST WANTED TO AGREE WITH YOU. I AGREE WITH CHANGING THE BASE ZONING BECAUSE IT FITS. WHAT'S MORE ON THAT CORNER IN THAT AREA. AND IF I WAS IN THAT AREA, I WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT. AS FAR AS EMOTION GOES, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO EVEN BEGIN. SO I'M GOING TO LET SOMEONE SMARTER THAN ME. WELL, WHOEVER MAKES IT,T, HOPE IT'S EASIER THAN ONE A COUPLE A COUPLE AGO. COUPLE AGO. I CAN'T MAKE MOTIONS, REMEMBER I YEAH, GO AHEAD. SO I THINK FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE CONDITIONS THE COMMISSION DOES AGREE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION. YES. WITH ADDITION SLASH EXCEPTION ON MEANDERING SIDEWALKS WILL BECOME A CONDITION. WE THERE WILL BE A CONDITION ABOUT THE AMENITIES TO BE ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE FINAL BUILDING, FINAL SLASH CO IS ISSUED. 
          DROUGHT RESISTANT LANDSCAPING WILL BE REQUIRED SLASH ENCOURAGED AS PRACTICABLE. 
          ALONG THE THOROUGHFARE. WE CAN WORDSMITH THAT ON THE ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST IN THE FRONT. THERE ARE TWO FEATURES ON THAT. ONE IS THE THE GARAGE. WHAT. HOW MUCH WOULD IT BE OFFSET? I THINK THE APPLICANT SAID THEY WERE OKAY TO HAVE THE SIX INCH OFFSET TO BE OFFSET FROM THE FACADE, BUT NOT PROTRUDE FROM THE GARAGE. SO THEY AGREED TO THAT. BUT THE CHAIR HAD A SUGGESTION THAT WE MAKE SOME OF THEM. I THINK WE LIKE THE 15 FOOT, 20 FOOT STAGGER, SO THERE WILL BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM. IF THE SETBACK WAS REDUCED SOME. 
          SO THAT WILL TAKE SOME WORK. I WOULDN'T MAKE IT MANDATORY WHERE EVERYONE'S LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, BUT WE CAN TRY TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT. AND THE THE GLAZING, WHICH IS STILL NOT FIGURED OUT WHICH THEY HAVE PROPOSED. THEY HAD PROPOSED 25%. WE RECOMMENDED 55. THEY SAID THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH IT. SO WE THE COMMISSION CAN SAY UP TO 55% AS AGREED BY STAFF IF POSSIBLE. AND THEN THEY WANTED TO GO BACK TO SIX FEET SIDEWALK. BUT IT WILL BE MEAN DURING TO MATCH WHAT'S ON CENTERVILLE, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE FINE. AND THEN ON THE THOROUGHFARE, IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCING WITH MASONRY COLUMNS AND WITH LANDSCAPING, DROUGHT RESISTANT LANDSCAPING AS PRACTICAL. AND THAT PERCENTAGE 
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WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE WORKED UPON. SO THOSE ARE THE ADDITION SLASH EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED. AND I THINK THOSE THOSE ARE WORKABLE BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL. OH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING. AND BASED ON THE REPRESENTATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY MISS NORA STAFF, MOVE TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVED, SUBJECT TO EVERYTHING SHE JUST SAID. OKAY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO SUMMARIZE THE SPECIFIC WITH IT. COMMISSIONER ABEL, YOUR OKAY, YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. TURN IT DOWN AT THE END IS LAUGHING AT US, YOU KNOW. SORRY. OKAY. THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING TO SF FIVE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT, WITH THE PROVISIONS THAT. OH GOSH, I'LL START AT THE BOTTOM THERE. SIX FOOT MEANDERING SIDEWALK ALONG CENTERVILLE. THE OTHER SIDEWALK BE MEANDERING AMENITIES BE INSTALLED BEFORE CO IS ISSUED FOR THE FIRST HOUSE. DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTING AS APPLICABLE. AND OKAY, THERE WAS ONE IN HERE I MISSED. I CAN'T READ MY OWN HANDWRITING. OH, AND THE OPTION LET STAFF WORK WITH THEM ON THE OPTION OF REDUCING THE FRONT BUILDING LINE TO 15FT TO ACCOMMODATE ARTICULATION AND DESIGNS OF HOMES FOR FOR THE PURPOSE OF OFFSETTING. RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW AS AS RESTATED, I DON'T KNOW. THE MOTION ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THERE. 
          DID I MISS ANYTHING? THE COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND METAL FENCING. OKAY. AND THE EXTERIOR WALL WILL. YEAH. MASONRY AND METAL. I THOUGHT. IT'S MY NOTES RIGHT HERE. AND AND AND AND GLAZING 25% VERSUS 55 OR 55 VERSUS 25. HOW DID YOU HAVE IS THAT. THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH IT UNDER THE KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THESE ITEMS WILL BE WORKED WITH THE STAFF. AND THEN COUNCIL GETS TO TRY TO PUT A MOTION TOGETHER WHENEVER THEY MEET. OKAY. AND DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND IT? DO I NEED TO REPEAT IT? GOOD. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABLE. THE MOTION AS RECORDED BY THE TV AND AUGMENTED ARROW. PREPARE TO VOTE. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          THANK YOU. AND AND GOOD LUCK FINDING A GOOD BUILDER TO COME IN THERE FOR US. THANK YOU. ALL 
          [c. Z 26-25 ZoneDev (District 3)]
RIGHT. OUR NEXT CASE, ITEM TWO C HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF ZONE DEV REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH A BASE ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY FIVE TO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS AND CONCEPT PLAN FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT. THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 47, 1247, 1848, OH TWO AND 4902 BOBTOWN ROAD ON PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND SF TEN DISTRICT, AND IT JUST REPEATS THE ADDRESS. OKAY. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FROM SINGLE FAMILY FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT WITH ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS ON PROPERTY, ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND SINGLE FAMILY TEN DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY IS. THE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 471247184802 AND 4902 BOBTOWN ROAD. THE ENTIRE SITE IS ABOUT 14.68 ACRES AND THIS SITE OR PART OF THIS SITE CAME BEFORE YOU ALL EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND IT WAS A REDUCED ACREAGE OF ABOUT NINE ACRES AND ABOUT 84 LOTS. THEY'VE THEY'VE ADDED TWO MORE LOTS. SO IT'S NOW A TOTAL OF FOUR TRACKS. SO IT'S, IT'S 14.6 ACRES AND 77 LOTS. SO THEY'VE DECREASED THE DENSITY ON THIS ONE. AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWING THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS SITE AS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS. TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CURRENTLY 
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FOUND THROUGHOUT GARLAND AND PROVIDE AREAS FOR LOW DENSITY FOR LOW TO MODERATE DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO ACCOMMODATE CONVENIENCE, RETAIL, OFFICE SPACE AND PUBLIC SERVICES. NONRESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ARE COMPATIBLE AND ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND SCALE WITH ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. NONRESIDENTIAL USES ARE TYPICAL. ARE TYPICALLY LOCATED IN THE INTERSECTION OF LOCAL STREETS OR AT LOCAL AND SECONDARY ARTERIAL STREETS. NONRESIDENTIAL USES ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEY SERVE AND INCLUDE MINIMAL ON SITE PARKING. 
          THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT TYPE IS PRIMARILY CHARACTERIZED AS LOW DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED BETWEEN 1 AND 6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 5.4 UNITS PER ACRE. SO THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE SITE. THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE FROM BOBTOWN ROAD, AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE FROM HIGH DRIVE ON THE EAST AND ON THE NORTHEAST. THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. IT SHOWS TWO ACCESS POINTS FROM BOBTOWN ROAD, AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING A PLAYGROUND WITH A SHADE STRUCTURE ON THE NORTH ENTRANCE. 
          AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A BOCCE BALL COURT ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OR COMPARABLE AMENITY FEATURE. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A PD. THE PURPOSE OF THE PD IS TO REQUEST CERTAIN DEVIATIONS FROMM TH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE FIRST IS LOT COVERAGE. THE SF FIVE ZONING DISTRICT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE 50% MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR 60% MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE TO HAVE A GREATER COVERAGE OF THE LOT FOR THE LOT WITH THE GDC REQUIRES 55 FOOT LOT WIDTH AND 60 FOOT WIDE CORNER LOTS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR 45 FOOT WIDE LOT AND 55 FOOT WIDE CORNER LOTS, AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE HOMES INTO THE SITE. BUT IT'S STILL THEY'RE STILL KEEPING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE. THE GARAGE DOORS. THE GDC REQUIRES THAT THE GARAGE DOOR MUST BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET BEHIND THE FRONT BUILDING FACADE, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT A MINIMUM OF 75% OF RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES SHALL HAVE A GARAGE DOOR RECESSED BACKWARDS, A MINIMUM OF SIX INCHES FROM THE BUILDING FACADE. THE REMAINDER OF THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES WILL HAVE A GARAGE DOOR THAT ALIGNS WITH THE FRONT FACADE TO KIND OF OFFSET FOR THIS, BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE GDC, WHENN WE HAVE THAT FIVE FOOT REQUIREMENT, IS TO CREATE ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST. SO IT'S NOT JUST A FLAT FACADE. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED OTHER ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN ELEMENTS TO THE ACTUAL LAYOUT OF THE SITE, AND THE DESIGN OF THE GARAGE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL THE GARAGE DOORS ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CARRIAGE STYLE GARAGE DOOR. SO THE GDC REQUIRES THAT A MINIMUM OF THREE DESIGN ELEMENTS BE PROVIDED ON EACH HOME. THE APPLICANT, IN ADDITION TO AND WITH CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS, THE APPLICANT IS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THESE OTHER DESIGN ELEMENTS. SO THEY ARE MULTIPLE PANE WINDOWS FEATURING EITHER DIVIDED LIGHT OR SIMULATED DIVIDED LIGHT ON THE FRONT FACADE, A MINIMUM EIGHT OVER 12 ROOF PITCH MINIMUM FOUR OVER 12 PITCH OVER PORCHES, A MINIMUM OF TWO COACH LIGHTS ON THE FRONT FACAD A FRONT ENTRY DOOR WITH GLASS, OR A MINIMUM OF THREE OF THE FOLLOWING DESIGN FEATURES. TEXTURED METAL INLAYS ON DOORS, FLUTED AND V-GROOVE DETAILING, WHICH IS BASICALLY CARVING AND VERTICAL LINES OR GEOMETRIC PATTERNS, OVERSIZE POOLS OR ANTIQUE KNOCKERS AND OR GRILLES ON THE DOORS. THE FIFTH ONE IS SHUTTERS OR AWNINGS OVER THE WINDOWS. THE SIXTH ONE IS ENHANCED DRIVEWAY FINISHES OF DECORATIVE SAW CUT OR HARDSCAPE MASONRY BORDERS ON THE DRIVEWAYS. SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS TO WHAT THE GDC HAS FOR OPTIONS. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE VARIETY IN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND TO ALSO FURTHER PROHIBIT MONOTONY OF THE MONOTONY OF THE HOMES. SO THE GDC REQUIRES THAT NO FACADE OF A DWELLING UNIT FACING A PUBLIC STREET, OR ANY PORTION OF AN INTERIOR, SIDE OR REAR FACADE ABOVE THE FIRST STORY OF A DWELLING UNIT MAY CONTAIN A FLAT, UNARTICULATED OR UNINTERRUPTED WALL LENGTH OF GREATER THAN 20% OF THE HORIZONTAL LENGTH OF THE FACADE. ANY SUCH FACADE SECTION MUST CONTAIN AN OFFSET OF AT LEAST TWO OR MORE FEET. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THAT NO GREATER THAN 40% OF THE FRONT FACADE ABOVE THE FIRST STORY SHALL HAVE AN UNARTICULATED, OR AN UNINTERRUPTED WALL LENGTH. THE TWO FEET. THE TWO FOOT OFFSET IS NOT REQUIRED ON THE SIDES 
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AND REARS, SO THAT MEANS THAT MINIMUM OF 60% ARTICULATION HAS TO BE PROVIDED ON THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOME. AGAIN, THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDING OTHER DESIGN AND ARCHITECTURE AND ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS TO MAKE UP FOR THIS. WALLS AND WINDOWS. THE WINDOWS AND DOORS MUST COMPRISE. GDC REQUIRES THAT IT MUST COMPRISE OF AT LEAST 25% OF THE WALL AREA OF THE FRONT BUILDING, FACE OF A DWELLING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT WINDOWS, DOORS AND GARAGE DOORS TO GARAGE DOORS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS REQUIREMENT TOGETHER. SO THAT'S INCLUDING THE GABLE. THE WHOLE FRONT FACADE OF THE BUILDING MUST BE AT LEAST 30% OF THE TOTAL WALL AREA OF THE FRONT BUILDING, FACE OF THE DWELLING. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ALLOW ALLOW A WIDER VARIETY OR ALLOW A GREATER FACADE TO MAKE UP FOR THE OPENINGS. THE DOORS IN THE WINDOWS OF THE FRONT FACADE. S THE GDC REQUIRES FOR ALLEYS TO BE FOR TO BE PROVIDED FOR SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED OR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT NO ALLEYS BE REQUIRED. SO LANDSCAPING THE GDC REQUIRES THAT TWO LARGE CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED ON ALL LOTS, AND AT LEAST ONE MUST BE LOCATED WITHIN THE FRONT YARD. IN ADDITION TO THIS REQUIREMENT, THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDING LANDSCAPE BEDS AROUND THE BASE OF THE FRONT FACADE OF ALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED, AND THIS WILL ALSO HELP TO PROVIDE INTEREST TO THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOME. SO FOR SCREENING A MINIMUM EIGHT FOOT TALL BRICK OR STONE MASONRY WALL IS REQUIRED, WITH LARGE CANOPY TREES PLANTED AT MAXIMUM 50 FOOT CENTERS. THAT IS WHAT THE GDC REQUIRES. STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THEY PROVIDE PERIMETER SCREENING TO MEET THE MINIMUM TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS ONE LARGE TREE FOR EVERY EVERY 50FT ON CENTER WITH AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN SHRUBS OR AN ORNAMENTAL GRASSES PLANTED ALONG THE BUFFER. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO IS TO PROVIDE A MORE OPEN FEEL AND APPEARANCE TO THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION FROM BOBTOWN. ALSO AN ENTRY FEARE WHICH. I'LL SHOW THE EXHIBIT IN A BIT AND ENTRY FEATURE SIMILAR TO THE ENTRY MONUMENT SIGN WILL BE PROVIDED SO IT'S ALSO. IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE PROVIDED ON. 
          I THINK YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR, BUT IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE PROVIDED ON THE NORTH PART OF THE FIRST ENTRANCE ON BOBTOWN OR SOUTH OF THE FIRST DRIVEWAY ON BOBTOWN. SO AMENITIES. THE GDC DOES NOT REQUIRE AMENITIES FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED SUBDIVISIONS, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PLAYGROUND AND SMALL SHADE STRUCTURE WITH A TABLE AND CHAIRS IN THE COMMON AREA NEAR THE ENTRANCE, AND A BOCCE BALL COURT OR COMPARABLE AMENITY IN THE SOUTHWESTERN COMMON AREA, AND THE PURPOSE STAFF RECOMMENDED. ACTUALLY, THE APPLICANT ALREADY PROPOSED ONE OF THE AMENITIES, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDED AN ADDITIONAL AMENITY BE PROVIDED SO THAT THERE COULD BE AN AREA FOR THE RESIDENTS TO KIND OF GATHER AND JUST CREATE A SORT OF ACTIVE SPACES IN THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. SO THESE ARE RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED HOME. 
          JUST SAMPLE RENDERINGS. AND THEN THIS IS THE ENTRY MONUMENT SIGN THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER. 
          AND THESE ARE SAMPLES OF THE CARRIAGE STYLE GARAGE DOOR WITH THE FAUX WINDOWS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED, BECAUSE IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WITH THE DENSITY FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENTS, THEY'RE PROVIDING AMENITIES WHICH EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM GDC STANDARDS, AND BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT GO ABOVE OUR GDC STANDARDS. CONSIDERING THE SIZE AND DENSITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. ALTHOUGH THIS PROPERTY IS NOT IN AN ECONOMIC FOCUS AREA, WE DID DO A KIND OF A BRIEF ANALYSIS WITH THE PROPOSED AMENITIES, THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. IT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO YIELD A HIGHER, HIGHER QUALITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. STAFF SENT OUT 138 LETTERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT, AND WE DID RECEIVE 22 RESPONSES. 21 OF THE RESPONSES WERE AGAINST AND WERE WITHIN THE 
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NOTIFICATION AREA, AND THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS RECEIVED THAT WAS OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA. TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE COMMENTS, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE CONSTRUCTION, TRAFFIC SAFETY, DENSITY, AND LOSS OF OPEN SPACE IN THE LETTERS. SO WE DO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION HERE WHO CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT. THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC SCOPE ANALYSIS, AND THEY WELL, THEY WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT ALL DRIVEWAY INTERSECTIONS, INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE STUDY AREA ARE PROJECTED TO OPERATE AT ACCEPTABLE OVERALL INTERSECTION LEVELS OF SERVICE DURING THE FULL PROJECT BUILD CONDITIONS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, HE'S HERE TO PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT ON THAT. 
          THERE WERE ALSO COMMENTS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE CAPACITY, IF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SEWER AND WATER. I DID SPEAK WITH OUR ENGINEERING TEAM AND THEY MENTIONED THAT THAT IS SUBMITTED DURING THE SITE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS. AND EVEN IF IT WASN'T, THE SITE IS NOT IS NOT ABLE TO MEET THE CAPACITY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S BUILT UP TO THE CAPACITY STANDARDS. SO WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE. I'M SORRY THAT WAS LONG, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH, I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU CLARIFY, DO WE HAVE EXISTING I MEAN, CITY SERVICES THERE, OR WILL THEY HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP TO STANDARD? SO IF THEY DURING THE SITE PERMIT REVIEW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A CAPACITY ANALYSIS TO FIND OUT IF THE EXISTING WATER AND SEWER CONNECTIONS CAN SUSTAIN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. IF IT CANNOT, THEY WILL HAVE TO BRING THE INFRASTRUCTURE UP TO STANDARDS. SO THE CITY KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT. YES. YES, SIR, I KNEW THE ANSWER. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. I LOVE THAT RESPONSE. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WOULD YOU ALL WANT TO HEAR FROM THE TRANSPORTATION GENTLEMEN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SUBMITTED? IF WE COULD GET THAT INFORMATION. YOU CAN'T HIDE. SO I TAKE IT THERE'S BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY SUBMITTED AND EVERYTHING. AND WHAT WERE THE GENERAL CONCLUSIONS IN THAT? THERE WAS A THERE WAS A MEMO. THIS DIDN'T WARRANT A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. IT DIDN'T PRODUCE ENOUGH TRIPS TO DO THAT. BUT THERE WAS A MEMO. 
          THEY DID. THEY CALCULATED THE NUMBER OF TRIPS AND THE THE. I THINK THE MAIN FINDING WE FOUND WAS THAT THE. DURING THE PEAK HOUR IT PRODUCED, I BELIEVE. HOLD ON. SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF GUARD HERE. IT PRODUCED 76 TRIPS IN THE. IN THE PEAK THE PM PEAK HOUR. 47 OF THOSE WOULD BE COMING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S NOT EVEN ENOUGH TO WARRANT A A RIGHT TURN INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. ANY THOUGHTS OF THEIR. ONE STREET COMING IN WILL LINE UP WITH HIGH DRIVE ACROSS BOBTOWN ANY CONSIDERATION OF STOP SIGNS THERE IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S ON A CURVE THERE. IT DOES. IT DOES. DOESN'T LOOKS LIKE IT LINES UP WITH HIGH DRIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY. YEAH, WITH HIGH DRIVE, WOULD THAT BE. OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO KIND OF CHECK THE TRAFFIC BEFORE THAT SIGNALIZING IT. BUT PUTTING STOP SIGNS. YEAH. I MEAN, I, IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULD I, I WOULD NOT EVER EXPECT IT TO MEET A SIGNAL WARRANT. NO, NO, JUST BASED ON THE, THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT. BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE AND I'M CERTAIN I'LL HEAR FROM RESIDENTS, PEOPLE PROBABLY COME AROUND THAT CORNER PRETTY QUICK SOMETIMES. 
          SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WORTH CONSIDERING IF IT MOVES FORWARD. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN. THANKS A LOT. I KNOW YOU'D RATHER BE AT HOME. ALREADY THAT WE NOW HAVE MR. MAXWELL FISHER, THE APPLICANT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME 
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IS MAXWELL FISHER WITH ZONE DEV 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080, REPRESENTING SMC DEVELOPMENT AND MI HOMES, WHO HAVE PARTNERED ON THIS DEAL. MI HOMES WOULD BE THE BUILDER. MI HOMES IS A REPUTABLE COMPANY THEY'VE DEVELOPED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. THEY HAVE SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE DALLAS AREA. THEY HAVE OUR SIX TIME BUILDER, SIX TIME BUILDER OF THE YEAR AWARD WINNER, THE DALLAS BUILDING ASSOCIATION. THEY THEY ACTUALLY ELEVATE QUALITY. THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL WHOLE BUILDING STANDARDS. AND SO THAT INCREASES EFFICIENCY. IT'S JUST A BETTER BUILT HOME. AND SO YOUR, YOUR ENERGY COST OR YOUR COST FOR ENERGY ARE LOWER OVER TIME. THEY HAVE A COMMITMENT TO SATISFACTION. THEY ALSO ADHERE TO SAFETY PROTOCOLS. AND THEY HAVE A REALLY HIGH CUSTOMER SERVICE RATING OF 4.6 OUT OF FIVE. AND THEY ALSO HAVE A CURATED DESIGN STUDIO. ALSO, THE CUSTOMIZE HOMES. AGAIN, THEY HAVE HIGH RATINGS FROM THEIR CUSTOMERS, FROM THE NEW HOMEOWNERS. THEY ALSO ARE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY GET INVOLVED IN TRASH PICKUP IN CANCER DRIVES AND ALSO FOOD DRIVES OR FEEDING THE HUNGRY. SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS IN TH AREA RAPIDLY GROWING AREAS SALINA, PRINCETON, MESQUITE, PROSPER AND GRAND PRAIRIE, AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. AS MENTIONED, IT'S 77 LOTS ON 14.6 ACRES IS IS VERY UNUSUAL THAT DEVELOPERS CAN ACTUALLY TAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF ACQUIRING ADDITIONAL PROPERTY. THE FIRST TIME IT WAS ONLY JUST UNDER TEN ACRES. NOW WE'RE CLOSE TO 15 ACRES. BY ACQUIRING THE PARCEL TO THE SOUTH. AND SO THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO INCREASE THE LOT SIZE, DECREASE THE DENSITY. WE ALSO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF LOTS. IN THIS CASE, WE ALSO HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS OFF OFF OF BOBTOWN. THOSE ARE ONE AND TWO STORY FRONT ENTRY PRODUCT THAT RANGE FROM 1500 TO 2900FT■S. 
          THESE WOULD BE MARKET RATE, OF COURSE, THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM WITH TWO AND A HALF BATH. I MENTIONED SOME ONE SOME TWO STORY. WE HAVE TWO POCKET PARKS, ONE WITH A PLAYGROUND AND SHADE STRUCTURE AND BOCCE BALL. AND THEN WE HAVE A WELL LANDSCAPED FRONT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFERING THERE. ALL, ALL UNITS WOULD HAVE A CARRY STYLE HARDWARE AND EITHER A REAL OR FAUX WINDOWS IN THE GARAGE. THEY'RE NOT SHOWN IN THAT PICTURE, BUT WE'VE COMMITTED TO DO THAT IN WRITING, AS WELL AS A MENU OF DESIGN ITEMS THAT STAFF HAS GONE OVER WITH, SOME WITH THE PREVIOUS REQUESTS, AND WITH THIS REQUEST, WITH ENHANCED FRONT ENTRY DOORS, SHUTTERS AND AWNINGS, ENHANCED DRIVEWAY FINISHES, DIVIDED LIGHT WINDOWS. WE ALSO HAVE PORCHES. WE HAVE REAL PORCHES ON A LOT OF OUR OUR UNITS. THERE'S ANOTHER TWO STORY VERSION WITH THE PORCH ON THE LEFT SIDE. VERY POPULAR MODEL IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE, OR ACTUALLY BOTH, BUT THE RIGHT SIDE HAS THE PORCH. BOTH HAVE PORCHES, BUT THIS IS ONE OF OUR LARGER HOMES. BUT IT'S A GOOD PRICE POINT AND OFFERS THE PORCH. AND SO EVEN THOUGH OUR FACADE DOESN'T NECESSARILY STICK OUT IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE WITH THE PORCH ON A LOT OF OUR OUR UNITS, THAT EFFECT IS BASICALLY THERE. AND IN FACT, MAYBE EVEN BETTER THAN WHEN WE DON'T HAVE IT. HERE'S, HERE'S OUR SINGLE STORY OPTION. YOU CAN SEE THIS. THIS GARAGE IS RECESSED BACK A FEW FEET, BUT IT'S NOT FIVE. AND SO WE WOULD HAVE, OF COURSE, SOME PROJECTION ON THOSE UNITS. THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE FLUSH. SO WE WANT THAT FLEXIBILITY FLEXIBILITY THERE. BUT A LOT OF OUR UNITS HAVE PORCHES. A LOT OF THEM ARE WHERE YOU HAVE THE GARAGE SET BACK SOMEWHAT FROM THE FACADE. AND THEN THAT THAT PICTURE STAFF SHOWS YOU, IT JUST SHOWS YOU THAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO SOME WINDOWS IN THE GARAGE AND THE HARDWARE, AS I MENTIONED, WE DO AN ENTRY FEATURE SIGN. IT WOULD BE ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND KIND OF OVER THE TOP TYPE SIGN. THAT WOULD BE STANDALONE PART OF FENCING SCREENING. THERE'S SOME INTERIORS OF OUR, OUR LIVING ROOM AREA, KITCHEN IN THE BACKGROUND AND BEDROOMS. WHAT'S NICE IS THAT THIS, THIS GIVES A NICE FLOW. I JUST, BY THE WAY, IT'S DESIGNED WITH THE KITCHEN IN THE FRONT AND THEN THE BACK LIVING AREA. THE DEVELOPMENT 
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ADHERES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS WERE LESS THAN SIX UNITS AN ACRE BEFORE WE WERE ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE RANGE, THE COMPACT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY ALIGNED WITH THE COMP PLAN. NOW, WHEREAS BEFORE IT WAS WE WERE AT A HIGHER DENSITY. SO THE 5.2 OR 5.4 UNITS AN ACRE FULLY ALIGNS WITH THE COMP PLAN WE THINK WILL BE DRIVING VALUE WITH NEW HOMES AND THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR NEW HOMEOWNERS. SO WE'D ASK YOU TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST. WE THINK IT'S A HIGH QUALITY BUILDER, LARGER SITE WITH LARGER LOTS HOMES, LOT LESS DENSITY, FEWER HOMES, ESTHETICALLY PLEASING HOMES, AND ALIGNS WITH THE COMP PLAN AND STAFF SUPPORTS IT. AND WE WOULD ASK YOU TO FOLLOW STAFF'S SUPPORT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. COMMISSIONER MIRANDA. HELLO. 
          GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE TONIGHT. I GUESS MY MAIN QUESTION IS JUST GOING TO BE REGARDING, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, DEFINITELY LOOKING BACK AT THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL EARLIER THIS YEAR, THIS IS DEFINITELY MUCH MORE DIGESTIBLE, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESIDENTS NEARBY CONSIDERING THEIR CONCERNS. HAS THERE BEEN ANY EFFORT FROM YOUR END OR ANY OTHER PARTIES INVOLVED IN THERE TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND ADDRESS SOME OTHER CONCERNS? YES. SO IN ADDITION TO THE CITY'S NOTIFICATION OF THE IMMEDIATE HALO OR DON'T DONUT AROUND THE PROPERTY, WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO TWO HOA'S THAT ARE A LITTLE FARTHER OUT AS WELL. AND SO CYPRESS COVE AND CRYSTAL LAKES. AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME COMMUNICATION THERE. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENCY, BUT UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH SOME EXISTING TRAFFIC LEVELS ON BOBTOWN. I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO GO INTO THOSE DETAILS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO TO ADDRESS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOING FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DALTON. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ON THE FRONTAGE ON BOBTOWN, YOU REQUESTED TO NOT HAVE A PARTITION WALL OF ANY KIND, EXCEPT FOR LANDSCAPING TO BE THE SEPARATION. WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE TO PUTTING UP POSSIBLY A ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH BRICK MASONRY COLUMNS DOWN THAT WAY? I'M. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF A SOLID FENCE WHEN IT COMES TO SEPARATING. THE NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVE IN HAS. ON ROAN ROAD, HAS OPEN FENCING, BUT IT IS STILL FENCED. IT'S STILL DIVIDED FROM THE PUBLIC ROADWAY, GIVES AT LEAST A SEMBLANCE OF SOME SEPARATION THERE. WOULD YOU BE IN AGREEMENT TO LOOKING AT POSSIBLY AN ORNAMENTAL FENCE ALONG BOBTOWN? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, I AGREE. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL JUST STATE. I'M GLAD TO HEAR MI HOMES IS INVOLVED IN THIS. I'M LIFE DIRECTOR DOWN AT THE DALLAS BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, AND THEY DO HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION AND IT DISSUADES SOME OF MY FEARS WITH OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. SO I DO APPRECIATE IT. AND IT SHOULD BE A GOOD LOOKING NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY NOTES. AND YOU'VE GOTTEN A COPY OF THEM. WOULD A 15 FOOT FRONT YARD NOT INCLUDING THE GARAGES, BE OF BENEFIT TO HELP FACILITATE PUTTING PORCHES ON THE HOUSES? YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. THAT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY. AND THE PORCH COULD EXTEND INTO THAT YARD UP TO FIVE FEET. THAT'D BE TERRIFIC. OKAY. AND THEN THE PEOPLE MORE BACKYARD TOO, AND STILL HAVE A GOOD LOOK IN THE FRONT. LET'S SEE. ALL RIGHT. AND I TAKE IT YOU WOULDN'T BE UP FOR THE ALLEYS CUTTING THROUGH THOSE TWO TWO BLOCKS AND WOULD YOU. YEAH. WE WE REALLY WE WEIGHED THE IDEA OF HAVING OR I GUESS CONNECTING TO THE EXISTING ALLEYS AND THE COUPLE SECTIONS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T DO IT. ONE IS IT'S INTRUSIVE TO THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE MORE BURDEN ON THERE SHARING MORE OF THEIR ALLEY. THERE'S SAFETY, SECURITY. THERE'S ALSO DRAINAGE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE A THE GRADE IS DIFFERENT TO WHERE IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO GRADE AND POTENTIALLY SEWER RUN THE SEWER IN A IN A WAY THAT IT WOULD GRADE OUR DRAIN DRAIN APPROPRIATELY. THERE'S ALSO IT'S IT'S A BIGGER BACKYARD. IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ALLEY, WHICH CAN BE APPRECIATED. THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER OTHER THE MAIN ONES. WE DID CONSIDER IT. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, YOU 
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HAVE TO HAVE THAT MANY MORE FLOOR PLANS ON TOP OF THAT OR, OR STYLES OF HOME. AND THE CODE ALREADY HAS A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT. GREAT FOR US ARCHITECTS. WE ALWAYS LIKE DESIGNING NEW, RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT WE DID, WE DID CONSIDER IT. OKAY. YEAH, I WAS JUST TALKING TO THOSE TWO MIDDLE BLOCKS OF STRAIGHT THROUGH ALLEY, BUTITH THEM I INVOLVED THEIR DESIGNS WILL BE GOOD AND EVERYTHING AND THAT'LL HELP MITIGATE ANY ANY PROBLEM. EXACTLY. OKAY. AND TO THE POINT OF THE FENCING, FIRST LET ME ASK, IS THAT POND IN THERE? IS THAT GOING TO BE A DRY POND OR WET POND? DRY POND MOST OF THE TIME, YEAH. AND WILL IT BE LANDSCAPED IN THERE? JUST GRASS OR I WILL HAVE LANDSCAPING. IN FACT, SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING. SHRUBS AND TREES ARE REQUIRED AROUND THE POND ANYWAY, SO IT'LL BE WELL LANDSCAPED FROM THE ROAD. I'M THINKING IF YOU GO WITH THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE. I HAD THOUGHT OF MASONRY WALL ALONG THE BACK OF THOSE HOUSES, AND THE SIDE OF THAT ONE HOUSE BY THE BOCCE BALL COURT, BUT POSSIBLY EVEN BOARD AND BATTEN FENCE THERE INSTEAD OF REGULAR PICKET FENCE WOULD ADD TO THE AMBIANCE AS YOU'RE DRIVING BY AND LOOKING. BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UPGRADE THINGS A LITTLE BIT. APPRECIATE IT, AND IT'LL WORK FOR THEIR MARKETING TOO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. I HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKER CARDS. ALISA COLLIER. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. I SUPPOSE TRAFFIC ON BOBTOWN IS A I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS LISA COLLIER. 
          I LIVE IN THE HILLS OF WEST LAKE, ADJACENT SOMEWHAT TO THIS PROPERTY. 4517 BOSE WAY IS MY PHYSICAL ADDRESS. TRAFFIC ON BOBTOWN IS A HUGE ISSUE. THE SUBDIVISION I LIVE IN WAS BUILT IN THE MID 80S. WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES ONTO BOBTOWN. IT IS CURRENTLY TAKING 5 TO 10 MINUTES TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON ANY GIVEN DAY, ANY GIVEN TIME. OKAY, SEVEN MINUTES THIS EVENING TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET HERE. OKAY? IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM HAVING AN ENTRANCE INTO A SUBDIVISION ON THE CURVE IS A PROBLEM. THERE ARE BUS STOPS AT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ACROSS THERE. SCHOOL BUS STOPS. I'M SORRY. THERE ARE CHILDREN RUNNING AROUND. I BELIEVE THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS THERE RIGHT NOW. AND THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE A BIG HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THERE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET, THE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BOBTOWN DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF RETAINING OR FENCING. 
          IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A FIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR. THEY STILL HAVE THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING, AND THEY HAVE FARM ANIMALS. AND THEY IT'S, IT'S KIND OF CRAZY, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT IT'S THE TRAFFIC IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN. 77 HOUSES. THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, WHAT, 150 PLUS VEHICLES TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT OF BOBTOWN TWICE A DAY AT LEAST. SO I MEAN, TRAFFIC REALLY IS A PROBLEM. SAFETY WITH ALL THOSE APARTMENTS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS HAVING A PLAYGROUND RIGHT THERE ON BOBTOWN, EVEN IF IT'S BEHIND A FENCE. THEY GOT PEOPLE ALONG BOBTOWN REPLACING THEIR FENCES REGULARLY BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING RUN INTO. SO IT'S JUST IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN. IT'S A TRAFFIC CONCERN. EVERYBODY FROM SUNNYVALE AND 80 TRYING TO GET OVER TO GEORGE BUSH IS UP AND DOWN. BOBTOWN IT'S INSANE. IT'S CRAZY. IT REALLY DOES. I DON'T KNOW WHY WOULDN'T WARRANT A TRAFFIC SURVEY, BUT IT'S IT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. I KNOW THE TWO RELATIVELY NEW STOP SIGNS THAT HAVE GONE IN HAVEE MODULATED SOMEWHAT THE TRAFFIC. BUT THERE ARE SOME TIMES IN THE EVENINGS THE TRAFFIC IS SO BACKED UP THAT YOU CAN WAIT 2 OR 3, I'M SORRY, 2 OR 3 CYCLES TO GET THROUGH. SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST CRAZY. IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A GOOD FIT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. YEAH. THANK THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE. I USED TO RIDE THAT ROAD A LOT BEFORE COVID. OUR TRIATHLON TEAM RODE OUT OF WINDSURF BAY AND WE'D GO DOWN THERE TO SUNNYVALE AND STUFF. SO IF YOU SAW BIKES, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ME TOO. I KNOW THAT ROAD WAS IMPROVED DOWN TO A CERTAIN POINT WHEN THE SUBDIVISION ACROSS THE STREET WENT IN. IS THAT FULLY DEVELOPED ROAD GO DOWN BEYOND 
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THIS NEW SUBDIVISION? NO. THERE IS A TURNING LANE WHICH IS USED AS A PASSING LANE ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHICH IS ANOTHER SAFETY ISSUE. PEOPLE TURNING INTO THE I THINK IT'S A. DR. HORTON ON THE ON THE WHAT WOULD THAT BE? THE EAST SIDE OF BOBTOWN, THOSE TWO NEWER DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY PUT IN THE STREETLIGHTS? YEAH. WE HAD NOTICED AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC TOO, EVEN BEFORE THEN. AND THAT WAS ALL THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAD AS MUCH AS ALL THOSE PEOPLE COMING. RIGHT. AND THERE'S BEEN NO REAL IMPROVEMENT TO BOBTOWN SINCE THE TORNADO BACK IN, WHAT, 2015, 16? ABOUT 15 YEARS. YEAH, YEAH. SO AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY PLANS FOR ANYTHING TO HAPPEN ON BOBTOWN IN THE NEAR. I JUST REMEMBER THE FUTURE SO, SO FAR DOWN, WHICH WAS NICE BECAUSE PAVEMENT GOT SMOOTHER FOR THE BIKE. YEAH, EXACTLY. BUT I MEAN YOU, I MEAN, THEN YOU'RE VERY AWARE OF THE CULVERTS ON EITHER SIDE AND IT'S VERY UNEVEN AND THERE ARE NO CURB. THE STREET IS NOT CURVED AT ALL. SO I MEAN THERE JUST LOTS OF ISSUES. IT FLOODS REGULARLY WHEN WE GET THE HEAVY RAINS. I MEAN IT RECEDES QUICKLY, BUT IT DOES FILL UP QUICKLY. SO LOTS AND LOTS OF SAFETY AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          QUESTION OF STAFF. WOULD THEY HAVE TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN ALONG BOBTOWN THERE. OR WOULD THAT BE IN ABEYANCE UNTIL THAT SIDE GETS IMPROVED? YEAH. SO THERE'S AN EXISTING FOUR FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK. AND FOR THE AREAS THAT ARE NOT THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK TO CONNECT TO IT. OKAY. WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT A MEANDERING SIDEWALK THERE TOO. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU LIKE MEANDERING SIDEWALKS? ALRIGHTY. GEORGIA. YES. SORRY. 
          WELL, I'M I'M BAD ON HANDWRITING AND AND NAMES. AS I TELL FOLKS, I'VE GOT A MASTER'S IN MISPRONOUNCING. YEAH. HELLO, I'M GEORGIA RAY, AND WE LIVE AT 4501 LAKEWAY DRIVE. WE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT TWO MILES FROM WHERE THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE, 0.2 TO 0.3, WHERE THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE LIVED IN OUR HOME FOR ABOUT 28 YEARS. WE'VE RAISED OUR FIVE CHILDREN THERE, AND LISA IS ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS. AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT LISA SAID. DITTO TO EVERYTHING THAT SHE SAID. IT IS A SAFETY HAZARD THERE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION WHERE ON OUR SIDE THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES LIKE LISA INDICATED, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PULL OUT INTO THE TURN LANE JUST SO YOU CAN GET OUT AND GET INTO THE TRAFFIC. AND THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO ONLY BE TURN LANES, NOT LET ME PULL OUT AND JUST WAIT UNTIL I CAN, YOU KNOW, MERGE IN ON THAT. ALSO, IT IS A SAFETY CONCERN. THERE'S A CURVE RIGHT THERE. WE'VE GOT APARTMENTS OVER HERE WHERE THERE ARE CHILDREN PLAYING BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL IN AN OPEN AREA. SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE THE BACK ROADS JUST TO GET OUT OF OUR SUBDIVISION, BECAUSE IT IS 7 TO 10 MINUTE WAIT AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY. IT'S NOT JUST DURING THE RUSH HOUR, IN THE EVENINGS COMING HOME. THE TRAFFIC CAN BE BACKED UP AROUND THE CURVE, BACK TO THE RED LIGHTS THAT THEY JUST INSTALLED AT ZION. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M OPPOSED. I KNOW MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT AREN'T HERE TONIGHT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS AS WELL. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED SEVERAL TIMES TO THE PLANNING SESSION, AND WE STILL JUST ADAMANTLY DO NOT WANT THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. THANKS VERY MUCH. OKAY. AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER CARD. THOMAS. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO PRONOUNCE THE LAST NAME. THERE'S A CLINT EASTWOOD ONCE SAID, MAN, IT'S GOT TO KNOW HIS LIMITATIONS IN PRONOUNCING NAMES IS MINE. GOOD EVENING. AND NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. I'M THOMAS. ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN BOBTOWN. MY ADDRESS IS 4522 BOBTOWN ROAD. IT IS. WE ARE SHARING THE SAME. BOUNDARY. 
          THE 14.6 ACRE, 77 LOTS IS A. A LOT OF BUILDING. WHEN I BUILT THE HOUSES THERE. 4522 HOUSE 
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AND THE OTHER FOUR HOUSES BUILT BY ME, THERE WAS A DEED RESTRICTION THAT IS, YOU HAVE TO BUILD ABOUT 2000FT■S. HOUSE IN THAT AREA. NOW THE 14.6 ACRE 77 LOTS IS A. IS MORE THAN THE ACCEPTABLE NUMBER ONE THING. SECOND. THE. WE ARE SHARING THE BOUNDARY. SO WE NEED A BRICK WALL THROUGHOUT THE AREA BOUNDARY. AND ANOTHER THING IS THE TRAFFIC. IF MORE HOUSES ARE THERE, MORE PEOPLE WILL USE THE CAR AND THE CONVEYANCE. SO THE TRAFFIC WILL BE MORE AND. SO IF WE CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF HOUSES AND GO FOR THE ZONING IS BETTER BECAUSE WHEN I BUILT THE HOUSE, THERE WAS A DEED RESTRICTION. YOU CAN GO FOR THAT. ONLY 2000FT■S ABOVE HOUSES CAN BE BUILT ON THAT AREA. I DON'T KNOW WHY HOW NOW THEY ALLOW THIS MUCH HOUSES. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. DEED RESTRICTIONS. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE CITY DOES NOT CONTROL DEED RESTRICTIONS OR HAVE ENFORCEMENT THEREOF. THEY'RE RESTRICTIONS THAT GO WITH THE LAND AND SOMETHING THE BUYERS PROBABLY ALREADY WORKED OUT. AND I SEE SOME MORE SPEAKER CARDS COMING. UP. AFTER THAT. CATERINA SFORZA. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. I GIVE THANKS TO ALL THE CITY RULERS AND HONORABLE PLANNERS AND MEMBERS. I HAVE CERTAIN CONCERNS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. I MOVED OVER THERE, MOVED TO THE GARLAND AREA ABOUT 45 YEARS AGO. IT WAS VERY PEACEFUL, VERY QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE ENJOYED THAT AREA SO MUCH. NOW IT IS OVERBUILT. THE TRAFFIC IS TOO MUCH. WE CAN'T HANDLE IT. I LIVE ON 4518 BOBTOWN ROAD. IT IS HARD TO GET INTO THE STREET RIGHT NOW. I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SIGNAL. SIGNAL IS COME. LUCKILY THEY PUT A SIGNAL OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT STILL WE HAVE STRUGGLED. WHEN WE COME IN FROM THE OTHER SIDE, THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES AND ALSO BACK OF MY BUILDING, MY HOUSE IS SHARING SHARING THE SAME BOUNDARY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT SECURITY THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE FOR US BECAUSE IT IS SHARED. IT IS RIGHT NOW. A BARBED FENCE IS THERE AND SOME TREES THERE AND THE LAND IS VACANT. SO SINCE THE FENCE IS OVER THERE, WE HAVE SOME SECURITY. NOW IF THEY DEVELOP THAT LAND, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS OLD PEOPLE LIKE US GO. OUR LIFE GOING TO BE IN FUTURE. SO ONE IS OVERBUILDING, THE OTHER ONE IS TRAFFIC AND NOISE. AND ALSO A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS ON THAT AREA THAT IS OVERBUILDING. 
          THE APARTMENTS, NEW APARTMENTS, DOCTOR HORTON AND ALSO EVERYBODY USE THE COLLINS ROAD TO GO TO THE PHONY AREA ALSO. SO IT'S OUR LIFE IS HORRIBLE. AND IF WE BUILD OVER AND OVER IN THAT AREA. SO PLEASE CONSIDER OUR POSITION ALSO. PLEASE. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. KATERINA SOSA THEN. KEVIN YAMAGATA AGAI. SORRY. HI. I'M 
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NERVOUS. MY NAME IS CATHERINE SOSA. I LIVE IN 5502 CAREY LANE. AND MY REASONS FOR OPPOSING THIS ARE I BELIEVE THEY'RE ASKING FOR TOO MANY EXEMPTIONS. IF THEY TRULY ARE SF FIVE, THE MAX LOT COVERAGE IS 50% AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 60%. THE GARAGES, THEY SHOULD BE FIVE FEET BEHIND THE FACADE, AND FOR 75%, THEY'RE DOING A MINIMUM OF AT LEAST SIX INCHES. THAT'S LIKE A 90% REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED GARAGE SETBACK. THEY'RE ALSO NOT INCLUDING AN ALLEYWAY. I LIVE ON THE ALLEYWAY. I'M ACTUALLY THE CORNER HOME RIGHT HERE, SO I CAN ATTEST I WON'T HARP TOO MUCH ON THE TRAFFIC, BUT ME BEING ON THE CORNER, IT TAKES ME LIKE FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC BACKS SO MUCH AND FOR ME TO EXIT MY DRIVEWAY, IT'LL JUST BE SITTING THERE WAITING TO GET A CHANCE TO LEAVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IF THIS DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES THE CITY TO WAIVE AND MODIFY THIS MANY STANDARDS OF THE VERY ZONING DISTRICT BEING REQUESTED, THAT SHOULD BE REASON TO QUESTION WHETHER THE SF FIVE IS ACTUALLY THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE. I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED DENIAL FOR THIS EARLIER VERSION, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE LOT, DIMENSION AND DENSITY AND ARCHITECTURAL DEVIATIONS. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS RESIDES. REVISED THING IS STILL SUBSTANTIAL FOR WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. THE SMALLER LOTS ARE A MAJOR COMPLICATION. 
          AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE SF SEVEN AND SF TEN, AND I DON'T SEE HOW TRANSITIONING TO SMALLER LOTS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA. I WOULD LIKE TO HARP AGAIN ON THE ALLEY WAIVER. WE PUT OUR TRASH IN THE ALLEYS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD CAUSE ANY SORT OF PROBLEMS FOR PICKING UP THEIR TRASH. IF THIS THING WAS TO GO TO GO THROUGH. AND I DON'T SEE WHY THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD REFUSE, SHOULD RECEIVE A REDUCED ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AS PART OF THIS REZONING. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO FINISH OFF ON SAYING I HAVE STRONG IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION, AND I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON. IF I HAD MORE TIME, EVERYTHING WOULD BE PINK. THESE ARE CURRENTLY THE HOMES GOING IN OPPOSITION TOWARDS THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. MICHAEL HOWARD IS ALSO. I SAW THE PREVIOUS VIDEOS FROM LAST TIME. I BELIEVE NONE OF HIS STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED. ALSO THE ONES IN ORANGE WERE PREVIOUSLY OPPOSED. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, EVERYONE THAT I SPOKE TO WAS VERY MUCH UNAWARE THAT THIS WAS EVEN GOING THROUGH. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THIS AT ALL. SO I'M ASKING FOR THE COMMISSION TO REJECT THIS PARTICULAR PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THESE AFOREMENTIONED REASONS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS, SPEAKER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. NEXT IS KEVIN ALMAGUER. GOOD EVENING. HELLO. MY NAME IS KEVIN ALMAGUER. I LIVE AT 5506 CHERRY LANE. I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THAT DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME IN ON THE SECOND HOUSE ON THE CORNER, RIGHT NEXT TO CAT. AND THE THING. I'M NOT TOO OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT. I SAW WHAT CAT HAD HAD A DRAWING SHOWING THE ALLEYWAY, THEN COMING INTO THE ALLEYWAY. THAT IS NOT NOT AN OPTION. THAT SHOULD NEVER BE AN OPTION. THEN COMING INTO OUR ALLEYWAY, I BELIEVE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH YOUR ALLEY AT ALL. THIS WOULD ALL BE SELF CONTAINED. AND ANOTHER THING TO BACK UP THE TRAFFIC CLAIM. THE OTHER DAY I SPENT THREE LIFE CYCLES GETTING FROM THE KWIK TRIP TO COME INTO MY ALLEY AT CURRY LANE. WOW. AND YOU SEE THAT? AND THE TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP AROUND THE CORNER, GOING AROUND THE CORNER, ALL THE WAY AROUND DOWNTOWN. THAT'S WHERE THE TRAFFIC SLOWED DOWN. AND THEN YOU HAVE TRAFFIC COMING IN FROM ZION ROAD ALL THE WAY, STRETCHING ALL THE WAY TO I-30. SO AT THE SAME TIME, I'M TRYING TO GET OUT OF MY HOUSE ALLEYWAY WITHOUT BEING RUN OVER THE STREET. YOU GOT LIKE ZION COMING RIGHT HERE. YOU GOT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT OVER HERE. SO YOU GOT A WHITE LINE HERE. BUT PEOPLE COME OVER HERE TO STOP. THEY BLOCK US OUT. OUR TRAFFIC OUT OF THE ALLEY CAN'T GET OUT OF THERE. I'VE COMPLAINED ABOUT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. I'VE COMPLAINED TO THE PREVIOUS MAYOR. THEY PUT UP A LIGHT. THEY PUT UP A STRIPE HERE FOR ME. BUT STILL. YOU GOT A STRIPE LINE OVER HERE IN THE RED LIGHT HERE. SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE PASSING THE RED LIGHT OVER HERE, I'M WEARING MY GREEN LIGHTS ALREADY GONE. I'VE GOT MY GREEN LIGHT. AND THEY'RE LIKE, BOOM, THEY'RE ABOUT TO RUN ME OVER. SAME THING COMING ACROSS THIS WAY. I SEE THE GREEN LIGHT. I'M ABOUT TO COME OVER. I GOT TO STOP, MAKE SURE THAT CAR IS STOPPING BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING SO FAST. TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET GOES SO FAST. WE NEED BUMPERS TO SLOW DOWN THE 
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TRAFFIC IN THAT SEET. PEOPLE COME, ESPECIALLY ON THE MIDDLE PART, KEEP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING ACROSS AT THE LIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING REALLY FAST. I'VE BEEN HIT A FEW TIMES ALMOST. I'M REALLY CLOSE TO BEING HIT SEVERAL TIMES. AND THAT LIGHT, THAT INTERSECTION NEEDS TO BE FIXED AT ZION AND BOBTOWN, AND AT LEAST THE LIGHTS MOVED BACK TO WHERE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNERS, RIGHT WHERE THEY NEED TO STOP. INSTEAD OF PUTTING ACROSS THE STREET ACROSS THE ISLAND WHERE THEY GOT 60 TO 80FT BEFORE THEY CAN STOP AT THE RED LIGHT. SO THEY CAN RUN THE RED LIGHT RIGHT HERE. AND WE'VE HAD OUR GREEN LIGHT, RED LIGHTS. THEY ALREADY GOT A RED LIGHT BEFORE THEY ALREADY PASSED THE INTERSECTION, SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ANY DEVELOPMENT. I SAW THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN WHEN THE TORNADO HIT. THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT CAME AROUND, AND ALL THOSE DEVELOPMENTS BEHIND THE POWER PLANT. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD TAX THING FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BROUGHT IN A LOT OF GOOD, NICE HOUSES INTO THE AREA WITH A BIG TAX BASE. I'D RATHER SEE THAT THAN APARTMENT COMPLEXES. I'M SEEING APARTMENTS OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT THOSE ARE NICE HOUSES. I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING THOSE. BUT YOU GOT TO FIX THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM. YOU CAN'T. NO ONE CAN BE COMING DOWN DOWN THE ALLEY. THERE SHOULDN'T BE TIED TO THE ALLEY. THANK YOU. I THINK STAFF HEARS YOU AND THEY'LL THEY'LL COME CONVEY THE CONCERNS. I'M CERTAIN THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN CONVEYED, BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO. REITERATING DOESN'T HURT. I'VE BEEN BEGGING MY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE LOCAL POLICE OFFICER SAID, HEY, YOU GOT TO WATCH MAYBE HAVE MORE POLICE ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA JUST TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC GOING AND MAKE SURE THEY OBEY THE LAWS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN. I SEE NO QUESTIONS. IT'S THE LAST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS CASE? ALL RIGHT, CHAIR COMMISSIONERS, I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS EVERY QUESTION. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES CALL FOR LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY. AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ALIGNS WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS IT'S NOT IT'S NOT PLANNED OR ENVISIONED TO BE AN AG TYPE USE LIKE SOME FARM OR, YOU KNOW, ONE HOUSE ON IT. OUR PROPOSAL ADHERES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME TRAFFIC BACKUP DUE TO SOME LIGHTS, TRAFFIC LIGHT ON BOBTOWN. WE BELIEVE THAT THE BURDEN SHOULDN'T BE PUT ON US. FOR THAT, I WILL STATE THAT THE CURRENT CONDITION OF BOBTOWN IS A TWO LANEITH A SHARED LANE IN THE MIDDLE. MAXIMUM BUILD OUT IS ACTUALLY FOUR LANES, SO TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION AND FULLY BUILT OUT WITH CURB AND CURB AND GUTTER. AND SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP THE SITUATION. AND SO OUR DEVELOPMENT, IT'S JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET. AND THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. IT'S LITERALLY 47 VEHICLES AT PEAK HOUR. THAT'S LESS THAN ONE VEHICLE A MINUTE. THAT DOESN'T EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS. SO WE'RE EVEN SPLITTING THAT UP AS WELL. SO VERY, VERY MINIMAL TRAFFIC FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT. SO WE WOULD ASK, YOU KNOW, YES, THE WAY THINGS WORK IS THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S WHEN THE CITY SORT OF REACTIVELY IMPROVES ROADS, ADHERES TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT THE NEIGHBORS CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT MOVING THE BOBTOWN SECTION UP IN THE PRIORITY LIST, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT'S A PRIORITY OF THAT SECTION VERSUS ANOTHER ROAD OR ANOTHER SECTION. 
          THAT'S HOW YOU ADDRESS THAT. NOT TO MENTION THE PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE. THE EAST BRANCH WILL BE EXTENDED SOUTH SOMEDAY. AND SO WHEN AT HAPPENS, THEY'LL THEY'LL THAT WILL IMPROVE TRAFFIC AT CERTAIN LOCATIONS OF BARNES BRIDGE TO THE SOUTH WILL LIKELY BE AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR TO. SO PEOPLE WILL ALL BE HEADING TO THE NORTH BY 30. THEY'LL HEAD SOUTH, GET ON GEORGE BUSH. SO THAT WILL HELP IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. SEE WHAT ELSE WE HAVE HERE. WE WOULDN'T. WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING ALLEYS AT ALL. WE WOULD HAVE PRIVACY FENCES. WE WOULD DEFINITELY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TIE OURSELVES INTO THE. 
          THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE WEST OR NORTH. SO WE'LL JUST HAVE PRIVACY FENCES. WE'LL HAVE BACKYARDS. WE'LL BE. WE'LL HAVE SEPARATION FROM THEIR ALLEY. WE'LL BE TOTALLY FENCED OFF FROM THEIR ALLEY. WE'LL BE PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK ALONG BOB TOWN WHERE ONE DOESN'T EXIST. 
          WE OUR TRAFFIC STUDY ACTUALLY EVALUATED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AT BOTH OF OUR STREET INTERSECTIONS WITH BOB TOWN, AND IT WAS FOUND TO BE ACCEPTABLE. AND THEY ACTUALLY LOOK AT WAIT TIMES. SO HEADING OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, COMING INTO DEVELOPMENT. AND SO IT WAS 
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FOUND TO BE ACCEPTABLE FROM OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND THE CITY'S TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT. I THINK THAT'S IT. WE WOULD STAND TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT WE WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST. YEAH, THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS HERE. COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS CHAIR. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. I GUESS THIS IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION. I THINK MAYBE FOR STAFF. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM. SO THE TWO ENTRANCES TO THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. I'M ASSUMING THE ARE NO CURRENT TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN THIS AREA, ARE THERE? WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS ARE THERE ANY TRAFFIC LIGHTS, ANY STOP SIGNS IN THERE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDED AS A CONDITION? GENERALLY NOT BECAUSE THOSE THINGS ARE NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS A PD MATTER OR A ZONING MATTER. SO GENERALLY WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE THINGS IN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS OR EVEN IN THE ZONING CASES. THAT'S WHY I PUT THE BUG IN THEIR EAR ABOUT STOP SIGNS AND STUFF, KNOWING THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY, BUT THEY MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO IT. OKAY, OKAY. AND THAT THAT'S A MORE OF A GLOBAL EVALUATION BY THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT. SOMETIMES WHEN YOU THINK A STOP SIGN OR STOPLIGHT IS WARRANTED, IT'S NOT. IT CAN ACTUALLY CREATE WORSE ISSUES. SO BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON. AND. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. MAXWELL, GOOD EVENING TO YOU, SIR. AS ALWAYS, YOU BROUGHT UP A QUALITY PROPOSAL AND A BUILDER ALREADY IN HAND AS WELL, WHICH IS NOT COMMON. I THINK AS I WAS LISTENING TO TO YOUR REBUTTAL AND CONSIDERING THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN WHEN YOU'RE TELLING US THAT YOU CONVEY THE IDEA FULLY SO THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS ON BOARD WITH YOU. I DON'T THINK I HEARD THIS EVENING ONE COMMENT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMEMENT ITSEL. 
          IN FACT, WE HEARD SOMEBODY THAT SAID THE DEVELOPMENT COULD BE GOOD OR COULD BE OKAY FOR THE AREA. I THINK WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM, AND I THINK WE DON'T HAVE ANY FIRM SOLUTIONS TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM YET. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO WORK WITH STAFF TO RESOLVE THOSE THOSE ISSUES. AND I AGREE THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULDN'T BE PENALIZED FOR A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN EXISTENT SINCE BEFORE THE APPLICANT CONSIDERED THE, YOU KNOW, DOING THE PROPOSAL. 
          BOBTOWN IS HORRIBLE. EVERYONE KNOWS IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. HOPEFULLY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY SOMEWHERE IN THIS TO TO WORK WITH US TO RESOLVE IT. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND IF I COULD ADD THE MORE ACTUALLY, NOT THAT WE PRODUCE MUCH TRAFFIC, BUT THE MORE TRAFFIC YOU HAVE IT WHEN YOU REACH CERTAIN THRESHOLDS. IN THEORY, THE COUNCIL WOULD SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE. SO. AGAIN, I KNOW YOU KNOW IT, BUT YOU KNOW IT. YOU YOU'RE SUCH AN EXPERT AT IT AT THIS POINT THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND TEACH ALL OF US THAT ARE STILL IN GRADE SCHOOL ABOUT ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH AND COMMISSIONER ABLE. OOPS. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. MAXWELL, YOU SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING A WHILE AGO. AND AS MUCH AS I HEAR THE PEOPLE'S CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC, WHICH WE ALL DETEST, WAITING AT A STOP SIGN OR TO GET OUT YOUR COMMENT ABOUT IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES IN, PERHAPS THAT WILL BE THE CATALYST TO GET THIS STREET WIDENED AND IMPROVED IN THAT AREA. SO MAYBE I SHOULD THE COMMISSION CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE PAIN, BUT TO GET A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO SOME OF THESE PAINS THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING THROUGH, AND CERTAINLY WE KNOW OUR CITY NEEDS TO GROW. WE NEED TO DEVELOP PROPERTIES. THAT'S A PART OF OUR GOAL. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. COMMISSIONER ABEL. THANK YOU. LOOKING AT THIS COMPARED TO WHAT YOU BROUGHT US LAST TIME, THIS IS A CONSIDERABLY BETTER OPTION WITH LESS DENSITY. I LIKE THE STREET LAYOUTS. I LIKE EVERYTHING, I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSES, I LOVE EM. I AS A BUILDER, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THE THERE'S, WHAT, 30, 40% OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FROM HOME. NOW I HAVE FOUR CARS IN MY DRIVEWAY. ONLY ONE OF THEM LEAVES TWICE A DAY. MY WIFE DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT ME. WE TAKE ONE OF 
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THOSE ON THE WEEKEND. ONE OF THEM IS HER CAR THAT SHE JUST WANTED TO HAVE SITTING THERE, I. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC ON BOBTOWN. I DRIVE IT OFF AND IT'S HORRID, BUT I, I REALLY THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT, BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING, COULD BE THE BEST THING FOR THE AREA. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WOULD GO IN THERE OTHER THAN RETAIL, A BIG STRIP CENTER, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE WORSE FOR THE AREA. YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MANY PEOPLE KNOCKING DOWN THE DOOR TO KEEP THIS AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON 14 ACRES ON BOBTOWN, WHICH AS MUCH AS I HATE IT BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 14 ACRES, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THERE MAKES SENSE ANYMORE. AND LIKE I SAID, HOPEFULLY THIS IS A CATALYST TO GET BOBTOWN ROAD FIXED AND GET. I KNOW THAT THE CITY IS LISTENING. THEY DO LISTEN TO THIS AND CITY COUNCIL WILL LISTEN TO US. SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IT IS. BUT I DO LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT VERSUS THE ONE THAT YOU BROUGHT LAST TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I ALREADY GOT IT, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA. 
          YEAH. YOU'RE LIVE NOW. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I GOT ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AGAIN FOR LIKE STAFF. SO HOW WHAT HOW COULD IT LOOK? BECAUSE WHAT I AM HEARING ALSO FROM MANY FOLKS HERE IS THAT THERE ARE CURRENT ISSUES AND THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED, RIGHT, THAT THIS IS GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE WITH LIKE TRAFFIC. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO BLAME IT ON THE APPLICANT ITSELF. HOW COULD THIS BE A CATALYST TO IMPROVE THE ROADS? WHAT WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN? BECAUSE I'M I'M FEELING THE CONCERN FROM THE RESIDENTS HERE THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE COULD BE. SO WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN? I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT ITSELF WITH WHAT IT IS, DIDN'T REQUIRE A TIA BECAUSE OF HOW OUR CODE IS WRITTEN. IT'S BASED OFF OF WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC WILL BE GENERATED FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND IT DIDN'T MEET THAT THRESHOLD. HOWEVER, GENERALLY, AND I DON'T THINK ANY I DON'T WANT ANY MISCONCEPTION OUT THERE THAT THIS WILL BE THE CATALYST TO HAVE BOB TOWN IMPROVED. I THINK THE APPLICANT WAS TALKING ABOUT A POSSIBILITY THAT THE MORE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, THE MORE NOTICEABLE THE SITUATION COULD BE TO DECISION MAKERS, AND THAT COULD PUT BOB TOWN POTENTIALLY UP ON THE PRIORITY LIST. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO SCIENCE TO IT RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL HAPPEN. THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD ACTUALLY WILL CONTRIBUTE. BUT BUT THAT CAN POTENTIALLY CONTRIBUTE TOWARD A FASTER LOOK AT BOB TOWN. MAYBE. SO I DON'T WANT ANY MISCONCEPTION OUT THERE. WELL AND THIS WILL PROBABLY GET ME INTO TROUBLE, BUT YOU'LL HAVE A PERFECT FORUM IN A COUPLE WEEKS TO BRING THEIR ISSUE ABOUT TRAFFIC TO THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE IT WILL BE ON TOPIC. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND THEN COMMISSIONER ABLE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND TO MAXWELL'S POINT, I DID HEAR HIM SAY THAT THERE WERE PLANS IN THE FUTURE TO EXTEND GEORGE BUSH. I HAVE HEARD THAT AS WELL, THAT THAT IS THE INTENT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE. WE HAVE UP IN THE AIR DATES ABOUT WHEN THAT COULD OR COULD NOT HAPPEN, I GUESS. AND THIS IS MORE TO MISS MISS NORRIS POINT. I GUARANTEE THAT WE HAVE THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, LEADERS OF THE CITY THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM THIS EVENING THAT HAVE PRESENTED THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. AND I, I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN AVENUE AVAILABLE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS COULD BEGIN TO HAVE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS, TO ENGAGE AND TO EXPEDITE THE, THE, THE PROCESS BY WHICH BOB TOWN IS ADDRESSED. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I'M FOR THE APPLICATION. I THINK THE APPLICATION IS SOUND FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR AN EXTREMELY AMOUNT OF TIME. WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN UP HERE THAT WERE HORRIBLE FOR THE SPOT. THIS IS NOT THAT, BUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED. I'M HOPING THAT THE VOICES IN THIS ROOM CAN BEGIN TO HAVE THE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS THIS EVENING WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THE PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW THEM, BUT I KNOW THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN THE ROOM. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE AND FOR YOUR APPLICATION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AL. I WAS BASICALLY GOING TO REITERATE 
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THE SAME THING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHARGED WITH LOOKING AT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF PROPERTY. ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW THAT THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS IN PLAY IN SOUTH GARLAND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET RETAIL. WE'RE TRYING TO GET OTHER THINGS BACK TO THE AREA. 
          AND BEING IN REAL ESTATE. THE OLD ADAGE ROOFTOP BRINGS RETAIL. IT WILL BRING GROCERY STORES BACK. IT WILL BRING PEOPLE BACK. YOU CAN LOOK AT RIVER SET RIGHT HERE IN MY DISTRICT AS A CATALYST TO IMPROVING THE AREA AROUND. WE STARTED THAT DEVELOPMENT AND THAT AREA IS STARTING TO GROW AGAIN. YOU KNOW THIS. FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THIS IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE. AND OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SEEN, IT IS THE BEST THAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH. 
          MI WILL BUILD A QUALITY PRODUCT. AND I KNOW THAT THEY WILL STAND BEHIND THE AREA. SO THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE A LAST COMMENT? NO QUESTION. OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION FOR MAXWELL, SIR, ABOUT IF IF THIS IS TO TO GET APPROVED, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT A T TIMELINE  WHEN THESE WOULD BE BUILT AND READY. WELL, WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND PERMITTING, WHICH WOULD TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS. AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS CAN TAKE OVER A YEAR TO TWO YEARS. BUT IN THE STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND STARTING STARTING THE HOMES. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A GENERAL TIME FRAME. AND THEN WHAT ELSE DID I HAVE? OH, ONE LAST OTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF IS I KNOW CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER LEADERS. RIGHT. LISTEN TO OUR MEETINGS. 
          BUT IS, IS CAN WE ADD POTENTIAL CONDITIONS OR NOTES TO COUNCIL? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE CAN MAKE SURE THE CONDITIONS ARE MADE INTO THE INTO THE ACTUAL CONDITIONS DOCUMENT. IF IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL, IT IS IF IT'S NOT A COMMENT OR NOTE THAT IS NOT ENFORCEABLE, WE CAN'T REALLY PUT IT IN THE CONDITIONS. BUT WE CAN SAY THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE CONDITIONS SENTIMENT WAS. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. COMMISSION MOTION. I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED. OH CLARIFICATION. SO ONE CLARIFICATION. THE SIDEWALKS THEY CURRENTLY HAVE ALONG BOP TOWN. IT'S FOUR FEET. THEY WILL HAVE TO THE DEVELOPER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO BRING IT UP TO SIX FEET, WHICH IS OUR STANDARD. AND THEN THE CHAIR WANTED TO ADD A CONDITION WHICH IS MEANDERING. AND THEN ONE OTHER COMMENT TO, I THINK COMMISSIONER DALTON'S SUGGESTION, ORNAMENTAL FENCE STAFF WOULD. IF THAT HAPPENS, STAFF WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE MASONRY COLUMN SPACED EVERY 50FT. ALL RIGHTY, COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARING. AGAIN, WE HAVE TO USE THE BUTTONS. OTHERWISE YOU CAN'T PUT IT TOGETHER. SORRY. I KNOW IT'S A CHANGE AND WE'RE OLD AND. SORRY. GO AHEAD. MAKE YOUR MOTION NOW. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. THE MOTION. AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MIRANDA. THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY. THIS IS NOT A VOTE ON THE ISSUE. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE IN DISCUSSION MODE AGAIN OR MOTION MAKING MODE. LET ME CLEAR LET ME KNOW WHEN I CAN CLEAR THE MOTION. SHE DID IT. OKAY. YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER JENKINS. THANK YOU SIR. AS I SAID EARLIER, THIS IS A THIS IS A DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT APPLICATION TO CONSIDER. LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC. WE UNDERSTAND OR I UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR CONCERNS RELATE TO SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC DELAY THAT'S ALREADY IN THE AREA. AND WHO KNOWS HOW LONG CONSTRUCTION OR ADDITIONAL HOUSEHOLDS OR THE LIKE WILL. 
          ADD TO THAT. I AM CONFIDENT IN THE BUILDER AND IN CITY STAFF TO ENFORCE THE RULES REGARDING THINGS LIKE SWEEP AND MAKING CERTAIN THAT THE DEBRIS DOESN'T HIT THE ROADWAYS AND THE LIKE. 
          BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED ON THIS ONE. REGARDING THE APPLICATION. JUST FOR THE LAND USE, THOUGH, I'M IN FAVOR BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT'S A QUALITY PRODUCT THAT WILL ENHANCE THE CHARACTER AND THE VALUE OF THE SURROUNDING 
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HOUSEHOLDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WE'VE HEARD PLENTY OF PRESENTATIONS RECENTLY REGARDING THE CHALLENGES FACING THE CITY IN THE FUTURE. I CAN'T SEE WHY I WOULD BE AGAINST AN APPLICATION THAT WOULD THAT DIRECTLY ADDRESSES SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES AS THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED. SO THANK YOU. ALRIGHTY. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION. ABOUT THIS, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA. ALL RIGHT. SO FROM MY END, STILL, THE ONE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS I'M WONDERING, WHAT CAN WE ADD? WHAT IS THE COMMISSION HERE? THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN ADD IN MAYBE AS A POTENTIAL CONDITION OR AT LEAST RIGHT FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT IF WE WERE TO APPROVE, IF WE HAD CONDITIONS, THEY SHOW UP IN THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL. OTHERWISE THEY'RE JUST NOTES FROM STAFF AND THE CONDITIONS WE'RE LOOKING AT. IT WAS THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITH THE COLUMNS EVERY 50FT, AND THAT SINCE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REPLACE THE SIDEWALK THERE, THAT WOULD BE MEANDERING, SIDEWALK AS LOUD. AND WAS THERE A THIRD ONE? AROUND THAT TIME? AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH IT. YEAH. YEAH. WELL, I TALKED ABOUT AN UPGRADED FENCE AND BOARD ON BOARD VERSUS A PICKET, BUT. YEAH, WE DID DISCUSS SETBACKS OF 15FT AT THE FRONT FOR PORCHES. AND YES. YEAH. SO, SO THE GARAGE WILL STILL BE AT 20FT, BUT THEIR PORCHES CAN PROJECT OUT. OKAY. YEAH. THAT WAS THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED. SO WHOEVER MAKES A MOTION, YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT OR LET ME TRY TO INCLUDE IT. WE'RE MAKING A LITTLE BIT OF SAUSAGE FOLKS. WHO'S MAKING THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS. ALL RIGHT. I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT YOU MAKE THIS MOTION. I, I THINK IT IS TIME TO MAKE A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THERE ARE A LOT OF ADDITIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS THAT IO NOT HAVE AS A PART OF MY MOTION, BUT AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO ITERATE THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED BY THE COMMISSION, LIKE FOR THOSE CONDITIONS TO BE FOCUSED ON? YES. MEANDERING, SIX FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS, ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMN EVERY 50FT, FENCING ON THE LOTS ALONG BUCKTOWN BOARD AND BOAT, UPGRADED FENCE AS POSSIBLE, AND THEN POSSIBLY 15 POSSIBLY SETBACK CONSIDERATIONS TO HAVE THE GARAGES TO BE OFFSET FURTHER FROM THE BUILDING FACADE. YES. AND IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO ALSO SAY, SINCE TRAFFIC WAS A PART OF A HEAVY PART OF THIS TONIGHT, IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO SAY FOR THE STAFF TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS TRAFFIC? WE WILL PUT IT PUT IT IN THE STAFF REPORT. WE CAN'T PUT IT IN THE CONDITION, BUT WE'LL PUT IT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THAT WAS PLANNED. 
          COMMISSION HEARD THE RESIDENTS AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR CONSIDERATION. THAT COUNCIL HEARS IT OUT TO. I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT. OKAY. OKAY. AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCIDO. LET ME RESTATE THE MOTION AND CORRECT ME IF I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT. OKAY. 
          MOTION IS TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS THAT THE SIX FOOT MEANDERING WALK, SIX FOOT WALK BE MEANDERING, THAT THERE BE A FENCE WITH COLUMNS, EVERY MASONRY COLUMNS, EVERY 50FT MINIMUM ALONG BOBTOWN THAT STAFF WILL BE DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY OF A 15 FOOT SETBACK ON THE FRONT FOR REDUCE, REDUCE SETBACK FOR THE PORCHES AND AND A DECORATIVE FENCING ALONG BOBTOWN. UPGRADED. 
          UPGRADED. YEAH. AND I BELIEVE THOSE WERE FOR ITEMS. DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND MOTION COMMISSIONER JENKINS THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND THAT AS SUCH, WE SHOULD BE VOTING ON THE MOTION. THE QUESTION THAT I HAD FOR STAFF WHEN DOES THIS GO TO COUNCIL? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP THERE? IT'S I BELIEVE IT'LL BE SEPTEMBER 14TH 15TH. SO THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY UPON OR IF WE APPROVE, IS FOR IT TO PROCEED TO COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 15TH. COUNCIL WILL HEAR THE CASE AND THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT POINT AS WELL. THAT IS CORRECT. LET ME MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF 
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PUBLIC HEARING. I BELIEVE SO BECAUSE THEY IT'S ON THE IT'S ON THE STAFF. THEY HAVE A WORK SESSION AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO YOU'LL BE ON TAPE INSTEAD OF LIVE. OKAY, OKAY. DOES EVERYBODYY UERSTAND THE MOTION MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCIDO. MOTION IS TO APPROVE WITH ALL THOSE LISTED CONDITIONS. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN AND KEEP YOUR VOICES ALIVE. AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. BEFORE WE END TONIGHT'S SHOW MEETING. AND IT WAS KIND OF KIND OF NICE THAT COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS GOT TO MAKE THE LAST MOTIO BECAUSE THIS IS HER LAST NIGHT WITH THIS CITY COUNCIL PERSON HAS REPLACED HER, AND THE NEW PERSON WILL BE HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIVE PLUS YEARS OF SERVICE. I WANT TO THANK YOU. THE COMMISSION WANTS TO THANK YOU AND THE CITIZENS. THEY DON'T KNOW IT, BUT THEY WANT TO THANK YOU TOO. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. YOU TAKE CARE AND DON'T BE A STRANGER. WILL NOT. THANK YOU. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT US FOR ANYTHING YOU MAY NEED. YES. PLEASE DO. YEAH. I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED SITTING NEXT TO YOU. SO IT IS NOW 836. SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF
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