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WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING.
TODAY IS AUGUST 27TH AND WE ARE IN, UM, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S 10:00 AM UM, I'VE GOT CHRISTINA'S TO GIVE.
YEAH, CHRISTINA, WE, WE CANNOT EVER SEE EACH S NAMES, SO IT'S TRUE.
UM, WE'VE GOT A PLETHORA OF STAFF HERE WITH US AND OUR CITY MANAGER.
UM, AND OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTE MINUTES.
UM, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 26TH, 2026 MEETING MINUTES.
CAN I GET A MOTION? YES, I APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.
UH, I GUESS THE SECOND, SO IS APPROVED.
UM, SECOND ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PERSONS WHO DESIRE TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA OR ALLOW THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UM, MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM.
YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO COME DOWN AND TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WE'VE GOT ON OUR AGENDA.
WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE, UM, MINOR BLOWING IF SOMEONE CAME IN TO ONE OF THESE, SO PLEASE, PLEASE TRY THAT.
UM, ED MOORE IS GONNA BE JOINING US LATER FOR ITEM C, WHICH IS THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD TOPIC.
WE'RE, UM, GOING TO MOVE THAT TO THE LAST ITEM.
SO THAT WILL BE ITEM D INSTEAD OF C.
PLEASE RUN A LITTLE BIT LATE AND WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
SO OUR FIRST ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IS GONNA BE OUR REVIEW OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT FOR THE SPRING 2026, MS. LORD, DAILY MORNING.
AND I HAVE SOME ITEMS, SOME HEALTHY SIZED PACKETS.
UM, I AM LAURA DELLA VEGA WITH THE CITY OF, UM, OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE THIS MORNING.
AND AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, I AM PRESENTING TO YOU THIS SPRING 2026, UH, MATCHING GRANT APPLICATIONS.
UM, JUST A BRIEF RECAP OF OUR MATCHING GRANT PROGRAMS. UM, MONEY, UH, COMES FROM OUR, UM, BOND FUNDS, UM, FOR, UH, REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS TO APPLY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD WIDE PROJECTS ON PUBLIC OR PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PROPERTY.
UM, SO THIS PAST CYCLE WE HAD FOUR APPLICATIONS AND SO I'M JUST GONNA JUMP RIGHT INTO THEM AND IF YOU AGREE, I'LL PAUSE BETWEEN EACH APPLICATION SO WE CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THE FIRST APPLICATION UP IS FIRE WHEEL FARM VOLUNTEERS.
UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRYWAY AND SCREENING WALL ENHANCEMENTS.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED ALONG MUIRFIELD AND NORTH GARLAND ROAD AND ROYAL DALE AND NORTH GARLAND ROAD.
TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ABOUT $21,615.
THEY ARE REQUESTING $18,711, UM, $11 WITH A MATCH OF 2,904.
UM, THEY ARE A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, WHICH MEANS THAT PROJECTS UP TO $10,000, DO NOT RE REQUIRE A MATCH.
ANYTHING OVER 10,000 HAS 25% MATCH.
UM, THEY ARE, UH, REQUESTING FOR, UH, TO MAKE A 20 YEAR CORRECTION BY THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTOR, UM, OF THE ENTRYWAY, GREENING WALLS ALONG NORTH GARLAND.
UM, THERE ARE SOME, UM, EXPOSED, UM, AND RUSTING STEEL RODS.
UM, THEY SEEK TO REPLACE SOME LOST MORTAR.
UM, THEY WISH TO ULTIMATELY PROVIDE A STRUCTURALLY SOUND WALL, UM, AND AESTHETICALLY PLEASING ENTRANCE.
UM, THEY HAVE STATED THAT THEIR GOALS ARE TO, UM, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, RESTORE THIS THEIR 20-YEAR-OLD COMMUNITY INJURY LANE SCREENING WALL ALONG NORTH GARLAND ROAD.
UM, THIS PROJECT ADDRESSES THE ABOVE MENTIONED ISSUES, UM, AND HOPEFULLY COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT WILL PROVIDE AN AESTHETICALLY PLEASING ENTRANCE TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY'RE STATED MAINTENANCE, UM, THEY HAVE CONTRACTOR MAINTENANCE AS
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WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD MAINTEN MAINTENANCE.THE CONTRACTOR WILL FOLLOW UP SIX TO SIX, SIX MONTHS AND 12 MONTHS.
UM, AND THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL, UM, DO QUARTERLY AND ANNUAL INSPECTION, INCLUDING VISUAL CHECKS FOR MORTAR LOSS, UM, NEEDS FOR REPAIRS, MATERIALS CHECKS, UM, CHECKS FOR STABILITY.
UM, THEY ALSO HOPE TO DO SEASONAL DECORATIONS AND, UM, JUST DO REPAIRS AS NEEDED.
UM, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S, UH, THE MAP AS WELL AS SOME SITE PHOTOS OF THE MENTIONED WALL.
SO WE HAVE PROVIDED SOME COMMENTS ON THE, UH, LETTER OF INTENT, UM, AS WELL AS THE APPLICATION.
SO THE LETTER OF INTENT COMMENTS STILL APPLY.
UM, MATCHING GRANT APPLICANTS ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WITHIN A FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME, UM, IF APPROVED.
THE COMPLETION OF THIS CURRENT PROJECT WILL MARK THE BEGINNING OF THEIR FIVE YEAR CYCLE.
UM, PREVIOUS MATCH INCLUDES, UM, IN FALL OF 2004, THEY, UH, RECEIVED FUNDING TO INSTALL, SAID SCREENING WALL, UM, WHEN SCREENING WALLS WERE ELIGIBLE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.
UM, THE SCREENING WALL WAS COMPLETED IN 2007, BRINGING IT TO ABOUT 20, UM, ALMOST 20 YEARS.
UM, MOVING BACK TO APPLICATION, UH, COMMENTS, UH, ENTRY WAVE REPAIRS, MAYBE ELIGIBLE, UM, BUT WILL BE DETERMINED BY COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, REPAIRING SCREENING BALLS HAVE PREVIOUSLY BEEN INELIGIBLE.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE APPLICANT, UM, HOWEVER THEY WISH FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER THIS.
UM, UH, THIS FUNDING REQUEST AS THE SCREENING WALL REPAIRS, THEY'RE HOPING TO ADDRESS PROBLEM AREAS BEFORE THEY GET BIGGER.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP WITH NO DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE.
UM, AND SO THEY HAVE NO MANDATORY HOA.
UM, LASTLY, THIS WALL IS ALSO ALONG NORTH GARLAND ROAD, WHICH IS A DE DECENTLY TRAFFICKED CORRIDOR, UM, AND ENTRYWAY TO THE CITY.
UM, ALL OF THE OTHER COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE, UM, APPLICANTS AND INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
SO, UH, WITH THAT I WILL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCREENING WALLS NOT PREVIOUSLY BEING ELIGIBLE.
UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT IS THE THOUGHT AND OPINIONS ON THAT FROM YOUR GUYS' STANDPOINT? UM, 'CAUSE I, I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM BEING FUNDED BECAUSE IT'S FRONT FACING AND WE KNOW, UH, WHAT A UGLY, UH, WALL LOOKS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT DOES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO WITH THE RECENT CHANGE IN GUIDELINES, UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ALSO WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO THE COMMITTEE.
UM, JUST BECAUSE, UM, I MEAN, TYPICALLY MAINTENANCE TYPE PROJECTS, UM, ARE NOT ELIGIBLE THROUGH THE MATCHING GRANT.
AND THIS COULD BE SEEN, UM, AS MAINTENANCE.
HOWEVER, IT IS ALSO A 20 YEAR WALL.
UM, AND SO IT, IT, IT REALLY, IT REALLY DEPENDS.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE, UM, THE AVERAGE LIFESPAN FOR OVERALL WOULD BE? LIKE? IS THERE A, UM, A LIFE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF, OF ONE OF THESE? THE SCREAMING WALLS? YEAH.
UH, IT OF COURSE DEPENDS ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, THE MATERIALS AND THE INSTALLATION METHOD YOU SHOULD EXPECT FOR A, FOR A MASONRY WALL AT LEAST 50 YEARS BEFORE IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
UM, ARE THERE, ARE THERE PICTURES IN HERE OF LIKE, WHAT IS, WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT? YES, YES, THERE ARE, THERE ARE PICTURES.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT SEEMS, SEEMS A BIT LOW
UM, BUT THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, CRACKS IN THE, IN SOME OF THE MORTAR, UM, SOME SEPARATION THERE.
THERE'S SOME MORE PICTURES HERE OF THE SCREENING WALL.
OVERALL, IT SEEMS TO BE IN FAIRLY GOOD CONDITION, UM, WITH SOME NEEDED REPAIRS.
SOME OF THOSE SPOTS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE A FEW YEARS AWAY FROM JUST, UH, A WEIRD GAME OF S OF BRICKS
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WHY IS IT SO HIGH? THAT'S WEIRD BECAUSE THEY FIX THAT
I'M, I'M NOT SURE, UM, UM, YEAH, THE DRAINAGE MAY REQUIRED BY THE DRAINAGE TO GET UNDER IT.
UM, NO, I'M, I'M FINE WITH, WITH ALLOWING THIS, UM, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE OTHERWISE, BECAUSE THEY ARE SELF-FUNDED, I MEAN, THEY DON'T HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE, I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T ASSIST THEM, WHAT'S GONNA END UP HAPPENING IS IT'S JUST GONNA KEEP DETERIORATING AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE AN ICE SCORE.
AND SO I WOULD MUCH RATHER ALLOW THEM TO BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF THIS BEING REACTIVE ONCE IT LOOKS LIKE GARBAGE.
SO, HAVE ANY, DID WE JUST, DID THEY JUST GET THIS ONE QUOTE OR FOR THE, THEY GOT, THEY RECEIVED MULTIPLE QUOTES.
MULTIPLE, AND THIS WAS THE YEAH.
'CAUSE I AGREE THIS IS PRETTY GOOD.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK.
MY FAMILY'S IN THE MISSIONARY WORK, SO IT IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S, IT'S DOABLE.
THAT'S GOOD THAT THEY GOT MULTIPLES.
I'VE ACTUALLY WALKED THIS AREA BEFORE YOU AND IT IS, IT IS, IT IS A NICE TRAVEL AREA AND A LOT OF WALKERS ARE THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD NEED TO CHECK ON IF, SINCE WE'RE A LOT OF THIS, AND LAURA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, A LOT OF THIS APPEARS TO BE MORTAR LIKE REPAIR OF, OF THE, OF THE WALL THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH, UH, FINANCE, IF THAT'S, EVEN IF OUR FUNDING SOURCE CAN FUND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF, IF, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WOULD, UH, COUNT AS A, AS A CAPITAL REPAIR FOR, FOR, FOR THAT.
I, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE RATIONALE AND THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT WE WE'RE TRYING TO FUND AND EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE WALL 'CAUSE AT SOME POINT THAT IT'S GONNA FAIL.
RIGHT? BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE TRUE IN A LOT OF WALLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND THERE'S PROBABLY SOME YOU CAN THINK OF RIGHT NOW THAT, UM, THAT DON'T HAVE AN HOA ATTACHED THAT WOULD PROBABLY ALSO, UH, NEED SOME KIND OF REPAIR BEFORE FAILURE.
AND SO THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE MUCH A MUCH DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAN WHAT WE'VE TAKEN BEFORE.
SO DO WE HAVE OTHER AVENUES, UM, TO GET THAT MAINTENANCE WORK DONE IF THIS WOULDN'T BE APPROVED? I, I'M, I, I CAN'T THINK OF ONE.
UM, WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS FIRST AND FOREMOST WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF IT WOULD, IF WE'RE EVEN ABLE TO APPROVE IT OR NOT.
SO, UM, I GUESS LET'S DO THAT.
UM, 'CAUSE OTHERWISE OUR OPINIONS ARE NO EMPLOYED.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON? NO, WE CAN, SO THE NEXT APPLICATION IS FOR NORTHWEST TERRACE.
UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO INSTALL ENTRYWAY ART SCULPTURE AT WEST SCARLET OR WEST WALNUT AND NEWMAN STREET.
TOTAL PROJECT COSTS $9,800 AND THEY ARE A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, AND SINCE IT IS LESS THAN $10,000, THERE IS NO REQUIRED MATCH.
THEY ARE, UM, ASKING TO INSTALL AN A SCULPTURE SIGN AT THE TRIANGLE OF WEST WALNUT AND NEWMAN STREET WITH, UM, IN ADDITION TO LANDSCAPING BOULDERS AROUND, AROUND THE SIGN.
UM, THEIR GOALS, UM, INCLUDE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO REVIVE THEIR SIGNAGE IN A UNIFORM WAY TO UPGRADE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THEY WANTED TO START WITH A COWBOY HAT THEME, UM, AND NEXT TO PLACE MATCHING SIGNS IN FRONT OF EACH ENTRANCE.
UM, THE DESIGNER AND MAKER OF THE HAT IN THIS PROPOSAL WOULD LIKE TO, UM, INCLUDE, UH, MATCHING STEEL SIGNS FOR THE ENTRANCES AT EACH STREET.
UM, IN SEPTEMBER, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY FOR THE SIGNS TO TIE EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
UM, FOR MAINTENANCE, THEY STATED NO ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE IS PROJECTED TO BE NEEDED.
UM, NORTHWEST TERRACE IS ALONG WEST GARLAND, UH, UM, WEST WALNUT, I'M SO SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHY I KEEP SAYING GARLAND
UM, IT CIRCLED IN RED IS THE PROPOSED PROJECT AREA, THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE RIGHT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE POST OFFICE.
UM, AND HERE YOU CAN SEE, UM, JUST A IMAGE OF THE, OF THE AREA.
UM, SO FOR, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, SOME OF THE LETTER OF INTENT COMMENTS INCLUDED.
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BEFORE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, THEIR ELIGIBILITY, UM, THIS WOULD IF APPROVED, THIS WOULD BEGIN THEIR FIVE YEAR CYCLE.UM, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED MATCHING GRANTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BACK IN 2007, UM, TO INSTALL, UM, SUBDIVISION AND ENTRYWAY SIGNS.
THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ONES, UM, AT OTHER ENTRYWAYS.
UM, THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS INCLUDE, UM, ASKING IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AN EXISTING BANK ACCOUNT.
IF THEY DO, THEN THIS PROJECT WOULD BE MANAGED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND IT WOULD BE A REIMBURSEMENT, UM, TYPE PROJECT.
IF NOT, THEN THE CITY OF GARLAND WILL ACT AS PROJECT MANAGER.
UM, AND SO WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO FOLLOW CITY OF GARLAND PROCESSES AND PRO PROCUREMENT, UM, RULES WHICH COULD IMPACT, UM, VENDOR SELECTION AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
UM, PREVIOUS LETTER OF INTENT, UH, COMMENT ASKED IF THIS PROJECT RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THEY HOST AN INFORMAL NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERING, UM, TO SHARE THE IDEA OF THE PROJECT GAIN SUPPORT.
UM, THERE'S NO MENTION OF THE GATHERING OR OF THE APPLICANT ACTIVELY SOLICITING INPUT, UM, THAT THEY STATED ON THE APPLICATION.
UM, WE ASKED FOR THEM TO OUTLINE WHEN AND WHO DETERMINED THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT TYPE, WHEN WAS THE LAST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, HOW WAS WE PROMOTED, HOW MANY NEIGHBORS ATTENDED, YOU KNOW, IF THEY COULD PROVIDE MEETING MINUTES, UM, PHOTOS, ANYTHING TO SHOW THAT THEY DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
UM, THE, I DIDN'T RECEIVE A RESPONSE OR ANY ANSWERS IN REGARDS TO THESE QUESTIONS.
UM, PUBLIC ART IN NEIGHBORHOOD TENDS TO BE MORE SUCCESSFUL WHEN THERE'S ADEQUATE NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVEMENT AND INPUT IN, UM, IN THE PROCESS, ESPECIALLY IF THE PIECES ARE TO ESTABLISH THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S IDENTITY AND BRANDING.
AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDED TO THEM THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP CONDUCT A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OR INPUT ACTIVITY, UM, SO THAT THEY COULD BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPACITY AS WELL AS GAIN SUPPORT AND IDEAS FOR, UM, WHAT SHOULD BE INSTALLED.
UM, I ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO REACH OUT TO ALEJANDRO CARDOSO, WHO IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FATALITY SPECIALIST, WHO IS THERE TO HELP WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZING.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO HIM.
UM, AND SO, AND, AND THIS WAS PROVIDED TO THEM BACK IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, UM, BEFORE SUBMITTING THEIR LETTER OF INTENT, NORTHWEST TERRACE WAS LISTED AS AN INACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP.
THEIR LAST DATE OF REGISTRATION WITH OUR OFFICE WAS 2007.
UM, SO SINCE THE LAST REGISTRATION WAS ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO, WE ARE TREATING THIS AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AS IF THIS IS A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP.
UM, SO PER MAGIC GRANT GUIDELINES, UM, SINCE THIS PROGRAM IS AN INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY OF GARLAND, UM, APPLICATION APPLICATIONS FROM HOAS NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, UM, THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED WITH OUR OFFICE FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR OR PARTICIPATE IN, UH, CAPACITY BUILDING ACTIVITY.
UM, THEN THEY CAN APPLY WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
AND SO, UM, BECAUSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS DONE NEITHER, WE ARE INVITING THEM TO REAPPLY IN THE FUTURE AFTER THEY HAVE, UM, DONE THIS PUBLIC OUTREACH, UM, OR REACHED OUT TO US FOR ASSISTANCE IN REACHING OUT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS, UM, SO THAT THEY HAVE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.
SO ANY QUESTIONS AGREE TO THAT.
AND SO THE NEXT APPLICATION IS FOR PECAN GROVE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THEY ARE PROPOSING SIGN TOPPER REPLACEMENT.
UM, THEY'RE LOCATED ALONG SATURN, KINGSLEY, GLENBROOK CARROLL.
UM, TOTAL PROJECT COSTS $3,975.
UM, THEY ALSO ARE A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP.
UM, SO ANYTHING UNDER 10,000, THERE'S NO MATCH.
UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REPLACE, UH, SIGN TOPPER, WORN SIGN TOPPERS, AS WELL AS INSTALL ADDITIONAL SIGN TOPPERS.
UM, THEIR STATED GOALS ARE, UM, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, TO OBTAIN SIGN SIGN TOPPER SIGNS FOR 2026 TO BE INSTALLED, WHERE NEEDED TO REPLACE WEATHERED AND WORN SIGNS, UH, STATED MAINTENANCE STREET DEPARTMENT WILL BE CONTACTED FOR INSTALLATION OF THE NEW SIGNS AND REMOVAL OF
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THE OLD SIGNS, UM, ARE ON VARIOUS STREETS OF THE CON GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAP OF THE CON GROVE AND SOME PHOTOS OF THEIR EXISTING SIGN TOPPERS.
UM, SO FOR, UH, STAFF COMMENTS, UM, PREVIOUS FROM THE LETTER OF INTENT, UM, STILL APPLY, UM, WHICH MEANS THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR $90,000, 600, $90,650 IN MATCHING GRANT FUNDS.
UM, THE COMPLETION OF THEIR PREVIOUS PART, UH, PROJECT STARTED THEIR FIVE YEAR CYCLE.
UM, AND SO, UM, THEY, UH, THE EXIST, THE CURRENT SIGN TOPPERS WERE INSTALLED ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO.
AND SO THE AVERAGE LIFESPAN OF SIGN TOPPERS IS APPROXIMATELY NINE TO 12 YEARS.
UM, THIS CAN VARY WITH WEATHER AND SUN CONDITIONS IMPACTING THIS TIMEFRAME.
UM, THIS COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR REPLACEMENT IF COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE AND CITY COUNCIL AGREES.
UM, ALL OF MY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS WERE ADDRESSED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ASSOCIATION AND INCLUDED IN THE PACKET FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE.
UM, THE, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL FOR THIS APPLICATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO WOULD WE BE GIVING THEM SPARE SIGN? WOULD YES.
I, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BREAKDOWN.
UM, WE'RE REPLACING EIGHT 10 OF 'EM, DON'T NEED CHANGES.
SO IS THAT THE SAME THING AS OR AND THEN SPARE ON PAGE LIKE THE, SO THIS GOOGLE MAP AT THE BOTTOM, SO I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE YES, YOU GET A SUMMARY RIGHT THERE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA REPLACE EIGHT OF THEM.
AND THEN THAT THERE WILL BE 10 NEW SIGNS.
LIKE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UM, SO WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY NO, UM, OH, OKAY.
WHERE THERE'S NO SIGN TOPPER, THEY WILL BE I INSTALLING NEW.
AND THEN THERE'S 12 EXTRAS JUST IN CASE.
JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL THE PREVIOUS ONES WERE ALL ORDERED THE SAME TIME.
APPROACHING THEIR END OF END OF LIFE.
UM, HAVE THEY THOUGHT ABOUT JUST REPLACING ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME? I'M SORRY? HAVE THEY THOUGHT ABOUT REPLACING ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME? UM, THAT'S, THAT'S AN OPTION.
THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT THEY REQUESTED.
UM, I WILL ADD, THIS IS ALSO GONNA BE A FOCUSED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'LL BE DOING, UM, OUTREACH AND ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, UM, THIS COMING YEAR.
SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP A LOT, BUT THERE ARE FUNDS, UM, IF THEY WI IF THEY WISH TO INS INSTALL ALL OF THEM AT THE MOMENT, THEY CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT COST EFFECTIVENESS.
UM, WHEN YOU ORDER MORE, IT'S USUALLY CHEAPER, UM, IN 2008.
SO THEY'RE COMING UP QUICK ON 20 YEARS OLD.
UM, AND I THINK WHAT WE REPLACED OUR SIGNS, OUR SHARED SIGNS EVERY FIVE YEARS, I THINK IS THE LIFECYCLE.
SO AT 20 YEARS, I MEAN, THE PICTURES, THEY'RE STILL HOLDING ON STRONG, UH, THE ONE IN THE PICTURE.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THIS.
I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE IF THEY LOOKED AT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO REPLACE ALL OF THEM AND KNOCK IT ALL OUT AT ONCE IF IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE, JUST SO THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK IN TWO YEARS AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH GOSH, NOW WE HAVE TO REPLACE ALL OF THEM.
ESPECIALLY IF IT IS GOING TO BE A FOCUS AREA.
UM, I THINK THAT GETTING MORE BANG THROUGH THE BUG WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, BUT I AM, AM OKAY WITH THIS.
AND THEN THE LAST APPLICATION IS FOR RIVERSIDE RESIDENTIAL ASSOCIATION.
UM, THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO COMMUNITY TRAIL ENHANCEMENTS.
THEY'RE LOCATED ON HIGH COTTON LANE AND CHAIR, UM, CHEROKEE ROSE TRAIL.
THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS 18,332, AND THIS INCLUDES THE ESTIMATE TAX AND THEN 10% CONTINGENCY, UM, REQUESTING AMOUNT 15,582 WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD MATCH OF 2,750.
THEY ARE A MANDATORY HOA, UM, SO
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THEY ARE HOPING TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL BENCHES, DOG STATIONS, TRASH AND TRASH CANS ALONG THEIR WALKING PATH.UM, THEY ALSO REQUESTED TO, UM, INSTALL CROSSWALK PAINTING TO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UM, THE STATED GOALS, ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN, UM, RIVER SET RESIDENTIAL ASSOCIATIONS.
OPERATING ASSESSMENTS AND REPLACEMENT COSTS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE REPLACEMENT RESERVE STUDIES AND ALSO FUNDED BY MEMBER ASSESSMENTS.
UM, AND SO I THINK THEY, UM, ADDED THOSE BOTH
STATED GOALS AND STATED MAINTENANCE.
UM, THEY'RE MAP THEY'RE LOCATED ALONG BUCKINGHAM, SHILOH, UM, WESTERN, AND I THINK MAYBE GOODWIN.
AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IS A MAP OF THE PROPOSED SITE FOR THE BENCHES, UM, DOG STATIONS, TRASH CANS AND SUCH.
UM, SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE AREA.
UM, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, THE MATCHING GRANT A APPLICANTS ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WITHIN A FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME.
THIS WOULD, IF APPROVED, THIS WOULD MARK THE BEGINNING OF THEIR NEW FIVE YEAR CYCLE.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, THEY DID NOT SUBMIT A, A LETTER OF INTENT, UM, BE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S UNDER 25,000.
UM, HOWEVER, THE GUIDELINES DID CHANGE TO REQUIRE LETTERS OF INTENT, UM, FOR ALL APPLICATIONS.
BUT BECAUSE THIS WAS THE FIRST CYCLE AFTER THAT, WE WERE ALLOWED A GRACE PERIOD FOR, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
BUT THEY HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE THAT MOVING FORWARD ALL, UM, APPLICATIONS WILL REQUIRE A LETTER OF INTENT.
UM, MAINTENANCE IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOA, UM, ANY NEW AMENITIES INSTALLED, MOSTLY ADDED TO HOAS INSURANCE COVERAGE AND SUCH.
UM, BINGES, TRASH CANS, DOG STATIONS ARE ELIGIBLE THROUGH MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.
UM, ALL, UH, FOLLOWING QUESTIONS WERE ADDRESSED AND ADDED TO THE PACKET.
UM, FOR THE CROSSWALK STRIPING, UM, IT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE OF MATCHING GRANT BOND FUNDS DUE TO THEIR AVERAGE LIFESPAN OF TWO TO FIVE YEARS AND ONGOING ONGOING MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENT.
UM, WE SUGGESTED THEY CONTACT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS CROSSWALK OPTIONS OUTSIDE OF THE MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO AS SUCH, WE REMOVED THE COST OF CROSSWALK STRIPING FROM THE PROJECT.
UM, NOW THIS PROJECT COST WAS UPDATED, UM, AS YOU'LL SEE AT THE NEXT BULLET, UM, BASED ON SOME UPDATED ESTIMATES THAT THEY PROVIDED, UM, FOR THE PROJECT COST.
UM, AND SO OTHER THAN THAT, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM ENGINEERING REGARDING, UH, LICENSE AGREEMENTS, RIGHT OF WAY, UM, UH, RIGHT OF WAY PRACTICES, UM, AND TEXAS 8 1 1, UH, BEFORE YOU DIG, I BELIEVE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICATION? DID THE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT ENGINEERING HAD GET ADDRESSED? UM, THEY, SO THEY WILL BE, UM, ESSENTIALLY THEY, UM, DON'T NEED TO APPLY FOR THE LICENSE AGREEMENT OR, UM, RIGHT OF WAY, UH, PERMITS UNTIL THEY ARE APPROVED FOR MATCHING GRANT FUNDS.
SO THIS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR WHEN THEY REQUEST REIMBURSEMENT.
SO THIS WILL BE ADDED TO THEIR FUNDING AGREEMENT, UM, THAT THEY NEED TO, UM, ADDRESS THESE, THESE REQUESTS.
AND THAT'S FOR A LICENSING AGREEMENT? YES.
UM, LET'S SEE, LICENSE AGREEMENT RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT, UH, REQUIREMENT, UM, RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT, UH, REQUIREMENT, THE LICENSE AGREEMENT, REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT AUTHORIZATION.
I'M, I'M ALSO FINE WITH THE, UM, I THINK RIVER SET IS ONE OF THE
AND, UM, I AM ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH THIS ONE.
OKAY, SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS.
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NOW, UM, I'M SO SORRY.CIRCLING BACK TO, UM, FIREABLE FARMS VOLUNTEERS, UM, IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO COUNSEL IF WE DETERMINE THAT IT IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF BOND FUNDING? OR DO WE YEAH, THAT THAT'S FINE.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, FIGURE OUT IF IT CAN, IF IT CAN BE FUNDED OR NOT, UM, IF IT CAN THEN ABSOLUTELY MOVE IT, UM, MOVE IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
IF IT CAN'T BE FUNDED, CAN WE FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT OPTIONS YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WALL DOESN'T IT INTO WORSE WEAR THAN WHAT IT ALREADY IS GETTING INTO? YES, AGREED.
UM, ITEM THREE B IS DEVELOPING A DESIGNATED CAMPSITE OR UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS.
UM, WE'VE GOT LISTED AMBER, HOWEVER, ARIEL, YOU DO NOT QUITE LOOK LIKE AMBER.
I AM THE MANAGING DIRECTOR, AND WITH ME IS THOMAS OWENS.
HE IS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE DIRECTOR AND ALSO ASSISTANT CHIEF ST.
CLAIR IS WITH US THIS MORNING.
SO WE ARE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING A DESIGNATED CAMPING SITE FOR OUR HOUSE INDIVIDUALS.
UM, A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS ITEM.
THIS ITEM WAS INITIALLY REQUESTED BY FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER BEARD, AND IT WAS SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR POT DUTTON.
AND SO STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO, UH, DO SOME RESEARCH AND IDENTIFY THE PROCESS AND THE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER FOR GARLAND TO IMPLEMENT THIS INITIATIVE WITHIN GARLAND CITY LIMITS.
SO DURING THE PROCESS OF THE RESEARCH, WE IDENTIFIED THAT HOUSE BILL 1925 DOES NOT ALLOW MUNICIPALITIES TO DESIGNATE PROPERTIES FOR THIS USE UNLESS THE CITIES GET A, UH, THEY GET APPROVAL FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
SO THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS MORNING IS GONNA BE AN OVERVIEW ON, ON THE PROCESS AND ALSO A SUMMARY, A VERY DETAILED SUMMARY ON ALL THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET BEFORE WE GET APPROVAL.
SO STEP NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE SITE.
UH, AND IT CANNOT BE A CITY PARK.
UH, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 2306 DOES NOT ALLOW CITY PARKS TO BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
UH, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE COMPLETING THE APPLICATION.
WE SEND IT IN, AND ONCE WE RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, THEN WE CAN ESTABLISH THE SITE.
SO THE APPLICATION IS BROKEN DOWN IN THREE UH SECTIONS.
SECTIONS ONE AND TWO ARE PRETTY SIMPLE, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
SECTION THREE IS A LOT MORE DETAILED WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET.
SO SECTION ONE, NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHICH WRITTEN, WHICH DEPARTMENT IS GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS INITIATIVE FOR THE SITE.
AND ALSO WE GOTTA PROVIDE THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY INFORMATION FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.
SECTION TWO, WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF CAMPERS, UH, FOR 2026.
WE NEED TO ESTABLISH EVIDENCE THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT A CITY PARK.
LIKE I JUST SAID, UH, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 2306 DOES NOT ALLOW US TO USE CITY PARKS FOR THIS PURPOSE.
UH, AND ALSO THE SITE WILL BE REQUIRED TO, UH, PROVIDE BASIC SANITATION SERVICES, SPECIFICALLY TOILETS, SINKS, AND SHOWERS.
SO AS WE LOOK FOR A LOCATION THAT MEETS THIS REQUIREMENTS, WE GOTTA KEEP IN MIND THAT WE WILL NEED ACCESS TO WATER AND ELECTRICITY.
UM, MOBILE TRAILERS COULD BE USED.
SO WE OBTAINED AN ESTIMATE FOR A TRAILER WITH, UH, THREE SINKS, UH, THREE TOILETS, AND THREE SHOWERS.
WE WERE THINKING ONE MALE, ONE FEMALE, AND ONE A DA COMPLIANT.
THE MONTHLY COST FOR THAT IS 13,496.
AND WE ALSO NEED TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THE SITE IS OWNED BY THE CITY.
AS I MENTIONED, UH, SECTION, UH, SECTION THREE IS A LOT MORE COMPREHENSIVE.
IT IS DIVIDED INTO FIVE CHAPTERS, A THROUGH E.
AND THESE ARE ALL THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET BEFORE WE GET APPROVAL.
SO STARTING WITH, UH, CHAPTER A LOCAL, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE LOCAL HEALTHCARE ACCESS.
IT HAS TO BE WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE LOCATION, AND WE ALSO NEED ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND IT HAS TO BE WITHIN HALF A MILE OF
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THE LOCATION.WE GOTTA SHOW AVAILABILITY OF LOCAL HEALTHCARE ACCESS, ACCESS TO MEDICAID, AND ALSO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE, THE LIST OF SPECIFIC PROVIDERS FOR LOCAL HEALTHCARE AND ALSO, UH, MENTAL HEALTHCARE SERVICES.
WE ALSO NEED TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN COMMUNICATION FROM THE TEXAS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES CONFIRMING HOW THIS CAMPERS WILL BE, UH, HAVING ACCESS TO THE MEDICAID SERVICES.
UH, WE WILL ALSO NEED TO SHOW A MAP, A MAP OR WRITTEN DESCRIPTION SHOWING THE DISTANCE FROM THE PROVIDERS TO THE LOCATION.
UM, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH THE COST OF SERVICES, THE COST FOR THE SERVICES, AND ALSO WE NEED TO SHOW HOW THE SERVICES ARE GONNA BE PAID FOR.
UM, IF THERE ARE ANY DISQUALIFIERS, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, A FELONY, THEN WE GOTTA ALSO, UM, UH, INCLUDE THAT IN THE APPLICATION.
AND SO THE LAST BULLET POINT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.
THIS IS A CHECKBOX THAT YOU ARE GONNA SEE IN THE NEXT, UH, FOUR SLIDES.
AND BASICALLY, IF WE SELECT, UH, THIS CHECKBOX, WE ARE COMMITTING TO A GOAL THAT THE SERVICES WILL BE AVAILABLE AT LITTLE LOW OR NO COST TO AT LEAST 50% OF THE CAMPERS.
SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT, UH, THE DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS INITIATIVE WOULD HAVE TO MOST LIKELY NEGOTIATE WITH THIS PROVIDERS, UH, THE PRICES, AND MAKE SURE THAT EITHER THOSE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED AT LITTLE LOW OR NO COST TO AT LEAST 50% OF THE CAMERAS.
CHAPTER B, INDIGENOUS SERVICES, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO BASIC HUMAN NEEDS.
COULD BE FOOD ASSISTANCE, CLOTHING, UTILITY, OR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE, SENIOR SERVICES, AND OTHER BASIC NEEDS.
WE NEED TO PROVIDE A LIST OF THOSE SPECIFIC PROVIDERS AND ALSO THE SERVICES THAT THEY WILL BE PROVIDING.
AND WE ALSO NEED TO SHOW A MAP OR WRITTEN DESCRIPTION SHOWING, UH, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE, THE, THE SITE AND THE LOCATION OF THE PROVIDERS.
JUST LIKE, UH, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE ALSO NEED TO SHOW ANY ELIGIBILITY LIMITS, IF ANYTHING THAT WOULD, COULD POTENTIALLY DISQUALIFY, UH, UH, UH, SOME OF THESE CAMPERS.
AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, UH, THIS LAST BULLET POINT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.
IF WE SELECTED, BASICALLY THE CITY IS COMMITTING TO A GOAL THAT THESE SERVICES WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR AT LEAST 50% OF THE CAMPERS.
WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT, NUMBER ONE, WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES.
ONCE WE IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES, WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST 50% OF THE CAMPERS MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
OTHERWISE, WE, WE WOULDN'T QUALIFY CHAPTER C PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT, UH, AVAILABILITY FOR REASONABLY AFFORDABLE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, IT HAS TO BE WITHIN HALF A MILE OF THE LOCATION.
WE ALSO NEED TO SHOW THE, A LIST OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROVIDERS AND THEIR PRICES, AND WE NEED TO SHOW THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE NEAREST SITE, UM, TO THE, TO THE, TO THE NEAREST STOP OR STATION.
AND IF THERE IS A SIDEWALK OR A ALTERNATIVE.
BUT THIS FROM PATHWAY, WE ALSO NEED TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE APPLICATION.
AND WE ALSO NEED TO SHOW THE SCHEDULE OF THE CLOSEST PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ROUTE.
SO BASICALLY THE STATE WANTS TO KNOW, WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS SITE IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
SO EITHER THE SITE IS WITHIN HALF A MILE FROM PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR A STATION THAT SERVICES, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE DAY, AT LEAST SIX DAYS A WEEK.
IN THE EVENT THAT ONLY ON DEMAND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS THE ONLY OPTION, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST 50% OF THE CAMPERS QUALIFY FOR THAT SERVICE.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, IF ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO OBTAIN, UH, ON-DEMAND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A SENIOR CITIZEN, 65 YEARS OR OLDER, THEN YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST 50% OF YOUR CAMPERS MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
CHAPTER D, LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES, WE NEED TO PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES IN THIS AREA.
WE NEED TO SHOW WHICH PATROL, UH, B OR AREA IS GONNA BE COVERING THE SITE.
AND WE'LL NEED TO ALSO SHOW, SHOW A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE COVERAGE THAT'S GONNA BE AT THIS LOCATION IN COMPARISON TO OTHER AREAS ACROSS THE CITY.
UH, WE ALSO, IF, IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, THE LEVEL OF COVERAGE AT THIS AREA IS GONNA BE LESS THAN OTHER COMPARABLE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY, THEN WE'LL NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY.
UH, SO BASICALLY THE, THE, THE STATE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LEVEL OF COVERAGE THAT THIS SITE IS GOING TO RECEIVE IS, IS, IS EQUAL TO
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OTHER SIMILAR AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.AND THE LAST CHAPTER IS COORDINATION WITH THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.
SO WE NEED TO SHOW THE STEPS TAKEN TO COORDINATE WITH THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, AND WE NEED TO PROVIDE COMMUNICATIONS OF ANY MEETINGS, DATES, ANY COORDINATION STEPS THAT CAME FROM THOSE MEETINGS.
AND IF WE DECIDE THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA MEET ON A MONTHLY BASIS OR A QUARTERLY BASIS TO PROVIDE UPDATES, THEN THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION.
UH, BASICALLY THE STATE JUST WANTS TO KNOW THAT WE HAD AT LEAST ONE MEETING WITH THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY BEFORE SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION.
AND THESE ARE SOME KEY CONSIDERATIONS AND SOME POTENTIAL CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING.
UH, STARTING WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW OUR RESIDENTS WILL, WILL TAKE THIS.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMUNITY WILL ACCEPT THIS INITIATIVE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS COULD BE ON PROPERTY VALUES.
UM, HISTORICALLY, THE MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE GIVE FOR HOMELESS ACTIVITY, UH, ARE RELATED TO SAFETY CONCERNS.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ANTICIPATE AN INCREASING COMPLAINTS COMING FROM, FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM OUR RESIDENTS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE CITY.
NUMBER ONE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT THIS INITIATIVE ALIGNS WITH THE GARLAND ON THE RISE STR STRATEGIC PLAN.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, ONE OF THE GOALS IS, UH, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND FINANCIAL DISCIPLINE, AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND TIES TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN.
UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE, UH, ONGOING FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS.
IF YOU RECALL, JUST FOR PROVIDING BASIC SANITATION SERVICES.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY $162,000 PER YEAR BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS.
WE ANTICIPATED AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS, AND THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON FIRE POLICE AND EMS RESOURCES.
UM, YOU SAW HOW COMPREHENSIVE THE LIST OF REQUIREMENT IS.
SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE OPERATION, AND FOR THAT, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT ADDITIONAL STAFFING COULD BE NEEDED TO MANAGE THE SITE, BUT ALSO TO CONTINUE ONGOING COORDINATION WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDERS.
AND WE ALSO ANTICIPATE SOME ADDITIONAL EXPENSES FOR FENCING, SITE MAINTENANCE, LIGHTING, AND POTENTIALLY SECURITY.
SOME OF THE RISKS AND UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
UH, THE DEMAND COULD EXCEED CAPACITY.
UM, I, I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE COUNT FOR, FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND FOR 2026 WAS 33.
FOR DALLAS COUNTY IT WAS 2,872.
THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THAT WHAT, WHEN THEY HEAR THAT GARLAND HAS THIS IN PLACE, THAT WE, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL COME TO THE CITY OF GARLAND.
SO IT IS JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, ALSO, UH, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, UH, THAT SHOWS WE COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING, UM, THAT LED US TO BELIEVE THAT IMPLEMENTING AN INITIATIVE LIKE THIS ONE WILL ACTUALLY ELIMINATE UNAUTHORIZED CAMPING.
SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD BE, THAT WE COULD END UP WITH TWO, UM, TO DIFFERENT, UM, INITIATIVES THAT THE, THE AUTHORIZED CAMPING, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ADDRESSING UNAUTHORIZED CAMPING.
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT, UH, SOME OF THESE CAMPERS WILL, WILL BECOME DEPENDENT ON THE PROGRAM.
AND BECAUSE OF THE WEEKLY AND SOMETIMES DAILY INTERACTIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH A LOT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, DIFFICULTY IN ENFORCING, UM, UH, SOME OF THE SITE, UH, RULES THAT WE IMPLEMENT.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
UM, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT, UM, THE ESPANZA COMMUNITY AND HOW THAT IS LAID OUT BRIEFLY, BUT WE FOCUSED ON CAMPING.
UH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ESPERANZA IS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING ISH.
SO, SO, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND SCOTT, UM, DID A REALLY GOOD JOB GIVING ME AS MUCH INFO AS HE HAD.
UM, AND SO WE WERE, MY APPROACH TO THIS WAS, UH, UH, A DESIGNATED CAMPING SITE.
AND, AND WE LOOKED, UH, WE ACTUALLY CALLED THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY CITY IN TEXAS THAT HAS ANYTHING IN PLACE.
NO ONE HAS EVEN PUT IN AN APPLICATION.
SO THERE, THERE WERE NO EXAMPLES THAT WE COULD FOLLOW, THAT WE COULD BRING TO THE COMMITTEE AND, AND, AND, AND, AND USE THIS, UH, AS SUPPORTING EVIDENCE.
UM, DID YOU REACH OUT TO CHRIS BEARD, UM, AND ASK HER WHAT HER TRAIN OF THOUGHT WAS WHEN SHE BROUGHT THIS TO COMMITTEE? I DID NOT KNOW, BECAUSE PART OF THIS, UM, WELL, WHAT
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SPARKED THIS WAS, UM, I GUESS AMBER HAD DONE A PRESENTATION IN ONE OF OUR, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND HAD TALKED ABOUT A CITY.CHRIS COULDN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS LIKE LANCASTER DUNCANVILLE SOMEWHERE THAT WAY.
UM, THAT HAS SOMETHING SIMILAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IT, IT WAS ANOTHER CITY.
I CANNOT THINK OF THE NAME OF THE CITY, BUT I LOOKED IT UP AND WE ACTUALLY CALLED THEM AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE.
AND IF I REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE CITY, I WILL TELL YOU, BUT, UM, I CAN'T THINK OF IT FROM THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS? NO, THEY DON'T.
DID THEY, DID THEY SOMETHING MEAN? NO, WE COULDN'T FIND ANY INFORMATION THAT FLOWER MOUNT EVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE THIS? NO.
I DID DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THE CAMP ZA THAT YOU MENTIONED.
UM, JUST FROM WHAT I SAW, THAT'S THE ONE IN AUSTIN.
IT, IT DIDN'T, WHEN IT STARTED, IT WAS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, A TENT CAMPING SITE, UM, THAT WAS AUTHORIZED ON, I THINK IT WAS TDOT LAND.
UM, BUT NOW IT'S KIND OF METAMORPH INTO A TINY HOME COMMUNITY.
SO I WAS, LOOK, I DID DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON, ON THAT CAMP AND OKAY, COOL.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE DID YOU COME UP WITH THE NUMBER 33? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? THAT IS THE NUMBER THAT WAS PROVIDED BY HUD.
UM, ONCE A YEAR THEY DO COUNT, UH, FOR ONE NIGHT THEY GO AROUND THE CITY.
I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
AND THAT IS THE, THE COUNT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US, UM, BY HUD.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, YEAH, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT.
SOME OF THAT WAS, UH, TIME OF THE DAY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT IT HAS BEEN TRENDING DOWN.
UM, AND THEN CAN YOU GIVE US KIND OF A, AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SPENDING ON UNHOUSED THINGS, WHETHER THAT'S CLEANUP, SITE CLEANUPS, WHICH ARE COSTING US FOR SANITATION SERVICES, WHICH COST US FOR STAFFING, WHICH COST US FOR ALL OF THE THINGS.
UM, AND THEN I, WE, WE ALSO, UM, GIVE SERVICES LIKE I GUESS IN KIND, UM, TO GLOWS WHEN THEY'RE ACTIVATED AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AVENUES THAT WE, WE DO HELP IN THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT
SO, SO THE COST FOR FISCAL YEAR, UH, 25, 26, AND CONTRACTOR LABOR FOR CLEAN, UH, UH, CAMP REMEDIATION IS $132,763, I'M SORRY, 1 32.
AND THAT IS JUST THE CONTRACTOR THIS, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR? CORRECT.
SINCE AMBER TOOK OVER THE PROGRAM, UH, WE MOVED FROM UCNC RESOURCES TO USING A CONTRACTOR.
AND THAT'S WHAT ABOUT THREE GRAND PER CLEANUP? IT, IT DEPENDS.
IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE CAMP AND, UH, THE ACCESS TO THE CAMP, THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE USING, THE TYPE OF PERSONNEL THEY'RE GONNA BE USING, THE CER, THE CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY, THEY GOTTA HAVE.
THIS IS, UM, SOME, I'VE GONE ON, UM, SOME CAMPSITE CLEANUPS AND, UM, SOME OF THEM GO VERY FAST.
SOME OF THEM TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME.
SOME OF THEM ARE GROSSER THAN OTHERS.
UM, YOU WILL RUN INTO CANS OF IN SUBSTANCES? UM, YES MA'AM.
UM, SO THERE'S A HAZMAT, UM, ASPECT TO IT THAT I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING SOME OF THE COST OF NOW WE'RE HIRING HAZMAT TECHNICIANS RATHER THAN JUST USING LABOR PERSONNEL FROM A TEMP AGENCY.
UM, SORRY, I FEEL LIKE THE AVERAGE PERSON IS GONNA SAY, WELL, WHAT IF IT'S, IS IT GONNA BE BETTER BECAUSE IT'S CONTAINED, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU, INSTEAD OF IT BEING SPREAD EVERY, INSTEAD OF CAMP FIGHTS SPREAD EVERYWHERE, IT'S GONNA BE IN ONE PLACE.
IS THAT GONNA BE BETTER FOR POLICE, FOR FIRE, FOR IT'S ALL IN, IT'S ALL IN ONE PLACE.
UM, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH, I'LL SPEAK TO IT.
A LOT OF 'EM ARE TERRITORIAL, SO THEY'LL, THERE'S CONFLICT WITHIN THE AREA, SO THAT'S WHY THEY GO TO THEIR OWN REMOTE LOCATION.
SO BRINGING THOSE TOGETHER CAN BE A CHALLENGE.
THAT'S WHY WE SEE 'EM ALL OVER THE CITY.
THEY'RE LIKE A LITTLE GANG, HONESTLY.
YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING FOR, FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE, RIGHT? AND, AND WE JUST HAVE RECORD, UH, TEMPERATURE DAYS, UH, THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NEXT? PROVIDE AIR CONDITIONING TO THEM.
ARE WE GONNA DEAL WITH THE LIABILITY
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OF SOMEBODY DYING BECAUSE IT'S SO HOT? YEAH.SO IT IS JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW, BUT IF, IF WE DIVE DEEP INTO IT, THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES ADDED TO THIS PROGRAM.
UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS FANTASTIC IN THEORY, AND IF WE JUST HAVE AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF MONEY, UM, I, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE WOULD HESITATE TO SAY LIKE, YEAH, LET'S FIGURE IT OUT.
UM, WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, PARTNERS, UM, IN THE, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHATEVER, THAT, UM, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO, THIS IS WHAT THEY LIVE FOR, AND WE'VE GOT LIKE, MATURE RELIEF.
WE'VE GOT, UM, HOUSING, UH, I MEAN WE HAVE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY GOOD AT THIS, RIGHT? YES.
UM, LIKE YOU SAID, THEY ARE, THE UNHOUSED ARE VERY, VERY TERRITORIAL.
THEY DON'T COME IN WHEN IT'S COLD, WHEN IT'S, WHEN WE HAD, UH, URI, WE, WE DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF THEM COME IN BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GONNA LEAVE THEIR SPOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EXACTLY.
DIDN'T SOMEONE ELSE TO GET IT.
UM, AND SO I THINK ON PAPER IT SOUNDS, IT SOUNDS GREAT.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A FEASIBLE OPTION FOR US, UM, FOR MANY, FOR MANY REASONS.
UM, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PUTTING IN, YOU KNOW, THE WORK ON THIS ONE.
UM, CHRISTINA, YES, I, YEAH, I AGREE.
I, ONE THING TOO IS WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPARE IT TO IS SEE WHERE IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
IT'D BE ANOTHER THING WE'RE SAYING, OH, FLOWER MOUND DID THIS, OR LANCASTER THIS AND THIS IS SUCCESSFUL AND THIS IS IT'S CONTAINMENT, OR IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEING SUCCESSFUL.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH, UH, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR FOR JIM DONE THAT.
I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD POUR INTO THOSE.
AND WE, IN OUR, IN OUR GRANTS, UM, PROVISION THIS PAST YEAR, WE, WE'VE DONE THAT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, ALLOTTED MONEY FOR THOSE SERVICES AND LET LET IT BE HANDLED BY THOSE WHO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT.
I DID A, A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH AND THE ONLY THING I FOUND CLOSE WAS SOMEWHERE IN LU IN, UM, UTAH, AND IT WAS LIKE $25 MILLION AND IT WAS JUST, AND AND STILL IT'S NOT A CAMPSITE.
IT'S THE LITTLE MINI HOMES LIKE THAT.
THE SMALL HOMES, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
SO I AGREE, IDEALLY ON PAPER IT LOOKS NICE, BUT WITHOUT FACTUAL EVIDENCE AND HOW WE CAN COMPARE IT AND, AND HAVE IT SUCCESSFUL, I THINK THAT Y'ALL DO A GOOD JOB OF GOING OUT THERE AND MAKING, UM, GARLAND THE, YOU KNOW, THE GREATEST THAT IT CAN BE.
AND JUST AS A FRIENDLY REMINDER, WE, WE SAW THIS SITUATION WITH THE SAMARITANS DOWNTOWN, UM, AND AS SOON AS THEY STARTED, THEY UNHOUSED, UM, THE SERVICES.
A CERTAIN COUNCIL PERSON ADVOCATED FOR PARKLAND BUS TO GO DOWN TO GOOD SAMARITANS, WHICH BROUGHT IN MORE OF THE OTHER HOUSE POPULATION AND THE NEIGHBORS LOST THEIR MIND.
UM, THEY COULD HAVE BENEFITED FROM CARE.
SO, UM, THAT IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE, IF IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
AND, UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE AN AREA THAT IT WOULD BE READY FOR THAT, SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND WE CAN PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL, UM, AS IS, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE GOT REALLY ANY, UM, ACTION TO TAKE ON IT, BUT JUST PRESENT IT TO, TO COUNCIL.
UM, WHEN YOU COME TO COUNCIL, WILL YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT LIKE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ON, ON YOUR SLIDES OF UM OH, ABSOLUTELY.
OF LIKE WHAT THE COST, WHAT THE COST LOOKS LIKE, JUST SO THAT IT'S JUST PLAIN BLACK AND WHITE.
UM, AND I THINK WE'LL BE GOOD.
YOU'D LIKE US TO GO AS A VERBAL BRIEFING TO COUNCIL.
OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, GO AHEAD AND REDACT THAT.
UM, MOVE MOVING OF ITEMS. UM, ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE C, UM, WHICH IS A LAKE RAY HUBBARD.
UM, THIS WAS, UH, BROUGHT TO COUNSEL OR BROUGHT TO COMMITTEE BY, UM, MR. MOORE IN SAYING BY MR. CARAWAY.
AND WE'VE GOT THE AMAZING PARTS.
WE AND GREG AND MR. MOORE, WOULD YOU LIKE YOU COME AND JOIN US IN THE HOT, NICE, PRETTY SEAT.
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NAME, ADDRESS, PLEASE.UH, ED MOORE, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT SITE? THAT'S 1601 SKYLINE DRIVE, GOLAND, TEXAS DISTRICT THREE, ALL CITY COUNCILMAN.
AND, UM, WE'VE GOT DILI IN HERE, HERE TO TRUST ABOUT, UM, THE LITTER AND DEBRIS THAT, UM, COMES ALONG THE SHORELINE OF THE LEAK.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
UH, DELEY WILLIAMS, MANAGING DIRECTOR OF PARKS INAUGURATION, AND CARRIE PACHECO PARK OPERATIONS DIRECTOR IS JOINING ME.
UM, SO WE, OUR PRESENTATION HAS AN OVERVIEW OF JUST KIND OF SOME HISTORY OF, JUST SO YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, WHAT EFFORTS ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE BY VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THEN WHAT OTHER SOLUTIONS COULD BE EXPLORED, UM, IF COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO DO SO.
SO, UH, GARLAND AND DALLAS, THEY HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF, UH, LAKE RAY HUBBARD.
LAKE RAY HUBBARD IS OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND GARLAND IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LITTER REMOVAL ALONG DESIGNATED PUBLIC SHORELINE.
THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 10 MILES OF SHORELINE, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN SHORELINE AREAS, AND I HAVE A MAP TO SHOW GO THROUGH THAT WITH YOU GUYS THAT ARE PRIVATELY SUBLEASED AND THEY ARE NOT MAINTAINED BY EITHER OF THE, UM, ENTITIES.
SO THERE ARE CHALLENGES, UH, WITH CLEANUP OF THE SHORELINE.
UH, SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES ARE HEAVY BRUSH BLOCKS, ACCESS TO THE WATER'S EDGE.
UM, IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT TO JOHN PAUL JONES, UH, THERE'S ALSO, WE CAN'T ACCESS IT.
AND THERE'S ALSO SOME AREAS WHERE THERE IS A QUITE A BIG, UM, FALL FROM THE SHORELINE DOWN, UM, OR FROM THE TOP OF THE PARK DOWN TO THE SHORELINE.
SO YOU HAVE TO LITERALLY THROW YOUR TRASH BAGS ONCE COLLECTED UP, UM, WHICH IS A CHALLENGE.
AND I HAVE GOT SOME PICTURES TO SHOW THAT MOST OF THAT DEBRIS ACCUMULATES IN THE WATER BEFORE IT EVER REACHES THE SHORE.
WE DO HAVE VOLUNTEERS, BUT THEY REALLY NEED LONGER TOOLS AND BOAT ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE TRASH.
WE HAVE CITY STAFF, BUT THEY'RE LIMITED BY SCALE AND REACH.
WE HAVE LIMITED EQUIPMENT ACCESS, FLOOD EVENTS, STORM EVENTS, THEY JUST REDISTRIBUTE THE DEBRIS.
UM, IT'S AN ONGOING MAINTENANCE PROBLEM.
AND THEN WHEN CONCENTRATES FLOATING LIVER, UH, LIVER LITTER INTO COS OR LIVER, YOU NEVER KNOW.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA.
UH, THE FIRST PICTURE HERE ON THE LEFT, UH, WE HAD A PONTOON BOAT.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY A GROUP THAT VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME TO COME OUT AND WE UTILIZED THE PON UH, THE PONTOON BOAT.
THIS IS A, WAS A GAR VOLUNTEER GARLAND EFFORT.
UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH PICKERS AND UH, WE ALSO HAVE LITTLE POKES STICKS SO THAT WE COULD GET THE MANMADE TRASH, UH, THE BEST THAT WE COULD, WHETHER THAT WAS BALLS OR JUST TRASH WRAPPERS, UH, LIQUOR BOTTLES, YOU NAME IT, IT WAS OUT THERE.
UM, BUT YOU CAN START TO SEE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS WITH ALL OF THE WOOD IN ORGANIC MATTER THAT IT'S PILED UP.
AND THAT TOP RIGHT PICTURE REALLY SHOWS THAT'S A VIEW FROM, UH, THE OPERATOR OF THE PONTOON BOAT.
THEY CAN ONLY GET THAT BOAT SO CLOSE, UH, TO THAT SHORELINE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THAT ORGANIC MATTER.
UM, AND SOME OF IT IS SO DENSE AND SO COMPACTED THAT, UM, WELL, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY WALK ONTO THE WOOD DEBRIS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO START TRYING TO PICK UP THE, UH, MANMADE TRASH.
AND THEN THAT BOTTOM PICTURE REALLY SHOWS YOU ALONG THE SHORELINE, THE WOOD THAT DOES, UM, PILE UP THERE.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE SPRINKLES OF THE TRASH THAT ACCUMULATES.
BUT BASICALLY, LAKE RAY HUBBARD IS A, A MASSIVE RETENTION BASIN FOR RUNOFF FROM THE SURROUNDING METROPLEX.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A GARLAND PROBLEM.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S OTHER, UM, METROPLEX CITIES AS WELL.
AGAIN, IT REQUIRES AN ONGOING MAINTENANCE CYCLE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN, WE CAN GO DO A CLEANUP, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
THE NEXT TWO, UH, PICTURES REALLY JUST SHOW, UH, WHAT I TALKED ABOUT, THOSE SUBLEASE AREAS.
THE, UH, LOTS HERE THAT ARE IN YELLOW, THOSE ARE SUBLEASED.
SO IN THESE TWO PICTURES, THE OWNER OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT, NOT THE CITY OF, UM, DALLAS OR GARLAND.
AND THEN THIS IS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT IF, IF YOU
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SQUINT YOUR EYES, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE LITTLE RED, UH, LINES ON THIS MAP.AND THOSE ARE ALL THE STORM OUTFALLS.
SO ALL OF THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, MANMADE LITTER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, COLLECTED IN OUR STREETS.
UM, AND THEN IF THERE'S A STORM AND IT RUNS OFF AND AGAIN, EVENTUALLY GETS DUMPED HERE INTO LAKE RAY HUBBARD.
SO I WANTED TO GO THROUGH, THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY TO HELP TACKLE THIS ISSUE.
SO FIRST AND FOREMOST WOULD BE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.
AGAIN, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ACTUAL, UH, WATER.
SO THEY CONDUCT QUARTERLY BOAT BASED SHORELINE INSPECTIONS AND THEY RESPOND TO ANY REPORTED ISSUES.
WE, UH, AS A STAFF DO QUARTERLY CHECK-INS WITH THE DALLAS WATER UTILITY STAFF AND PROVIDE UPDATES.
WHAT ARE THEIR ONGOING EFFORTS, DO THEY HAVE ANY LITTER, UM, CLEANUPS THAT THEY HAVE SCHEDULED.
AND THEN WE GIVE 'EM UPDATES ON THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE ARE DOING AS WELL.
VOLUNTEER GARLAND ALSO, UH, WORKS WITH DALLAS WATER UTILITY, SO IT'S KIND OF A COORDINATION BETWEEN PARK OPS, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES, VOLUNTEER GARLAND, WE'RE ALL CONNECTED.
THEY ALSO CONTRACT LITTER MAINTENANCE TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR STAFF CLEANUPS, UM, ON LAND AND FROM WATER ALONG THE SHORELINE HOTSPOTS.
UM, AND THEY MOST RECENTLY DID A PARK CLEANUP OVER AT JOHN PAUL JONES.
IT WAS DONE INTERMITTENTLY BETWEEN A TIME SPAN OF JULY 20TH THROUGH AUGUST 4TH.
AND THROUGH THAT EFFORT, THEY COLLECTED FOUR TONS OF LITTER, UH, WERE COLLECTED BY THE CONTRACTOR AND A TON OF LITTER COLLECTED BY, UM, DALLAS WATER UTILITY STAFF.
DALLAS WATER UTILITIES DOES OWN, THEY ACQUIRED A DEBRIS COLLECTION, WATER BASED CRAFT.
IT'S CALLED AN AMPHIBIOUS EXCAVATOR TO DATE.
UH, DALLAS WATER UTILITY STAFF HAVE NOT BEEN TRAINED ON THIS EQUIPMENT DUE TO THEIR OWN STAFFING ISSUES AND, UM, CONSTRAINTS THAT THEY HAVE.
BUT TRAINING AND USE OF THE EQUIPMENT IS TARGETED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UM, IN ONE OF THE QUARTERLY CHECK-INS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE STAFF, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, SINCE YOU ALL OWN THIS EQUIPMENT, TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, UM, SOP AND SOME SORT OF AN AGREEMENT WHERE WE COULD, UM, HELP UTILIZE, UM, AND GET TRAINED POSSIBLY TO DO SOME CLEANUPS AGAIN.
UH, IT IS MET WITH VERY GENERAL ANSWERS OF, WELL, WE'RE NOT TRAINED, WE'RE NOT READY.
UM, AND WE DON'T OWN THE O UH, EQUIPMENT, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER BEING ABLE TO, UM, TRY AND MOVE THAT FORWARD.
WE HAVE MET WITH THE DALLAS WATER UTILITY STAFF ON SITE AT JOHN PAUL JONES PARK TO JUST DISCUSS, UM, FUTURE PROJECT ONCE THEY ARE TRAINED ON, UH, THIS EQUIPMENT, THIS EQUIPMENT ALSO REQUIRES, SO IT CAN GET INTO THE WATER, BUT IT ALSO REQUIRES A, UM, IT'S A, LIKE A BARGE TO BE ABLE TO DUMP THE, UM, TRASH INTO, UM, THAT THEN THE BARGE ALSO HAS TO BE HAULED OFF.
UM, AND SO IT REQUIRES ANOTHER BOAT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT BARGE.
SO A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN THIS.
UM, WE HAVE NOT GONE OUT TO SEE THAT EQUIPMENT.
UM, BUT THEY'VE TALKED TO US ABOUT COMING ON SITE AND DOING A, A TOUR OF THEIR FACILITY.
WE HAVE OUR PARK OPERATION STAFF.
SO, UH, THEY DO MONTHLY, UH, LITTER REMOVAL.
THEY'RE NOT DEDICATED JUST TO THAT PARK, IT'S JUST THE FOUR STAFF THAT ARE IN THAT AREA.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THEIR PARKS THAT THEY RESPOND TO.
UM, UH, THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE, THEY KNOW THAT IF THERE HAS BEEN A STORM EVENT, UM, THEY NEED TO GO OUT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY DO AFTER A STORM EVENT IS GO AND CHECK AND SEE UM, WHAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP.
'CAUSE THEY KNOW THE TRASH HOTSPOTS AND SO THEY RESPOND TO THAT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO OUR STAFF RESPOND TO ANY CITIZEN COMPLAINTS THAT ARE RECEIVED, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST LIMITED BY THEIR OWN CAPACITY AND ACCESS TO THAT WATER.
THEN VOLUNTEER GARLAND, UH, THEY DO QUITE A FEW EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO THIS PAST YEAR, UM, JUST WORKING AT JOHN PAUL JONES LITTER EVENTS ALONE, UM, OCTOBER 11TH, 2025, FEBRUARY 22ND OF THIS YEAR AND APRIL 28TH.
AND THEN THOSE WILL START BACK HOT AND HEAVY AGAIN.
UM, NOW THAT IT'S, WELL ONCE IT COOLS OFF 'CAUSE IT'S NOT COOL YET.
UM, BUT THEY TAKE A BREAK OVER THE SUMMER.
THOSE THREE EVENTS, UM, THERE WERE 64 TOTAL VOLUNTEERS AND OVER 5,500 POUNDS OF TRASH COLLECTED.
THEY ALSO DO THE DUCK CREEK, UM, ANNUAL EVENT, WHICH IS IN MAY 132 VOLUNTEERS, 528 TOTAL HOURS WITH OVER 2,500 POUNDS COLLECTED.
AND THAT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE DUCK CREEK, UM, YOU KNOW, FLOWS EVENTUALLY INTO LAKE ROAD,
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RAY HUBBARD.SO IF YOU CAN CATCH THE TRASH, UM, IN OTHER HOTSPOTS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN THERE'S THE TRI-CITY, UH, ANNUAL EVENT, WHICH IS EVERY OCTOBER.
UM, LAST YEAR'S EVENT, 678 VOLUNTEERS, OVER 2000 TOTAL HOURS OF WORK AND OVER 16,000 POUNDS OF DEBRIS COLLECTED.
IN ADDITION, UH, STORMWATER DOES EDUCATION.
SO, UH, THEY HAVE THEIR STOP THE PLASTIC POLLUTION CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS CALLED REFILL AND REUSE.
THEY DO BILLBOARD MESSAGING, THEY PUT THINGS IN THE CITY PRESS.
UH, THEY WORK WITH GISD ON CONTEST AND STORMWATER EDUCATION.
SO TRYING TO EDUCATE THE YOUTH SO THAT THEY GROW UP TO BE RESPONSIBLE ADULTS AND HELP TAKE CARE OF THE LITTER PROBLEM.
TRASH CAN WRAPS, STREET SWEEPER WRAPS, UH, THEY HAVE A, A BANNER THAT IS OVER AT WINTERS PARK ON OUR FENCING.
THEY DO BUSINESS FLYERS, CABLE, UM, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THE IMPORTANCE OF, UM, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE CARE AND, UM, DON'T JUST LITTER 'CAUSE THAT CAUSES A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM.
AND THEN OUR STREETS DEPARTMENT, THESE ARE SOME STATISTICS ON WHAT THEY DO TO HELP, UM, WHETHER IT'S STREET SWEEPING, UM, GOING THROUGH AND CLEANING INLETS.
UM, SO THESE ARE, UH, NUMBERS THAT WE RECENTLY GOT.
PRETTY IMPRESSIVE NUMBERS FOR ALL THAT THEY DO.
SO EVEN WITH ALL OF THAT, UM, WE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM.
AND SO, UM, THESE ARE OTHER POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT.
UH, THIS IS A SKIMMER AND SO THIS, DEPENDING UPON THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU GET, CAN RANG ANYWHERE FROM 400,000 TO $1.2 MILLION.
SO IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON, UH, HOW YOU CONFIGURE THAT EQUIPMENT.
BUT THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS LIMITED TO THE MOUTH OF THE ACTUAL, UM, UH, THE CONVEYOR BELT, I GUESS IS WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT, THE ARMS. UM, SO IF THERE'S A, A WOOD LOG THAT'S LARGER THAN FOUR FEET, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PICK UP THAT ORGANIC MATERIAL.
IT'S REALLY MEANT FOR FLOATING DEBRIS OUT IN OPEN WATER.
THEN WE HAVE A TRASH BAYER SYSTEM.
IF YOU PURCHASE ONE OF THESE, AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $250,000.
UM, BUT SO THIS LITTLE, AT THE END OF THAT, IT'S GOT TIMES STICKING OUT AND IT'S ROTATING AND IT'S COLLECTING THE TRASH.
UH, THE ISSUE AGAIN HERE IS IF YOU HAVE A LARGE PIECE OF WOOD TREE, THOSE TIMES IT COULD JAM AND CAUSE, UH, THE SYSTEM TO BACK UP.
SO THEN YOU HAVE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE YOU COULD GOTTA FIGURE OUT.
AND THEN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE AMPHIBIOUS EX EXCAVATOR.
AGAIN, SIMILAR TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS WHAT DALLAS PURCHASED.
UM, THAT COULD RANGE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 500,550.
AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON THE CONFIGURATION.
YOU CAN PUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, UM, AND SPECIALIZE THIS, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO TRANSPORT THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
THEY'RE REALLY LONG, UH, THE ONE THAT DALLAS HAD, IT WAS OVER 20 FEET LONG, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WEIGHTED, UM, TO TRANSPORT IT.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, UM, IT'S GOT A GRAPPLE CALL.
SO REALLY GOOD AT BEING ABLE TO PICK UP AND LOOSEN UP THE ORGANIC MATERIAL, BUT IT'S GOTTA PUT IT SOMEWHERE, WHETHER IT'S UP ON THE SHORELINE OR WHETHER IT'S ON ONE OF THESE FLOATING BARGES.
AND SO, UM, THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION.
AND THEN, UH, WE RECEIVED A QUOTE FROM SIRI.
SO THE CITY CONTRACTS ALREADY WAS SERIES ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.
THEY CAME OUT, THEY MET ON SITE, UH, THEY'VE DONE DRONE, UH, PICTURES.
AND SO THEY GAVE A QUOTE OF $949,000 FOR WATERWAY DEBRIS REMOVAL.
UM, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAUL THAT OFF.
THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE, UM, WE WOULD THEN STILL HAVE TO, UM, PAY THE SANITATION, THE, WHAT DO THEY CALL 'EM, THE TIPPING FEES, UM, TO DROP OFF THOSE LOADS.
ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THIS IS, UM, IN TALKING WITH SANITATION, ONCE YOU PULL THE DEBRIS UP, DO YOU SORT IT? SO DO YOU SORT SEPARATE THE ORGANIC MATERIAL FROM THE MANMADE MATERIAL? SO THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CON CONSIDER ON THAT.
UM, BUT THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT THE NEXT STORM EVENT, IT'S GOING TO THEN PUSH ALL OF THIS NEW DEBRIS TO THE, TO THE SHORT LINE.
SO AGAIN, LIKE WE SAID, IT'S AN ONGOING MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
AND I BELIEVE, YEP, THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE.
WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE RESEARCH THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT GONNA GO AWAY EVER.
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GOING TO BE THERE CONTINUOUSLY.UM, AS NICE AS IT WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR EVERY FEW MONTHS TO GO OUT AND, UH, PICK UP TRASH.
UM, MIKE, MIKE HAS SAID BEFORE, AGAIN AND AGAIN, UM, WE DON'T WANT TO USE MONEY FOR A ONE-TIME THING.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE WERE GONNA PUT ANY MONEY INTO IT, IT WOULD NEED TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE BENEFICIAL FOR A LONG TIME.
OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T HAVE $550,000 TO SPEND ON, UM, A FLOATING, UH, CLAW CRAP CRAPPER THING, UM, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED.
UM, HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE POTENTIAL OR THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING, UM, THE BOOMS THAT WOULD REDIRECT LITTER INTO MAYBE LIKE ONE AREA WHERE WE COULD DO IT, WOULD MAKE DOING A LITTER CLEANUP A LITTLE BIT EASIER IF IT WERE IN A GENERALIZED AREA? YEAH, I THINK THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES THAT YOU CAN USE DEPENDING ON THE APPLICATION.
SO THERE'S TYPES THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN CREEKS, AND THEN THERE'S TYPES YOU COULD HAVE ON SHORE.
BUT I THINK IT'S LOOKING INTO THE DIFFERENT BRANDS AND THEN IT COLLECTS, AND YOU HAVE TO REGULARLY BE ABLE TO CLEAR THOSE OUT BECAUSE IF THEY GET TOO JAMMED UP, THEN YOU, YOU DO HAVE THE PROBLEM OF THE HEAVINESS, THE WEIGHT OF THE WET ORGANIC MATERIAL AND GETTING TO THE, TO THE, UM, MANMADE TRASH ALSO.
SO, UM, I, I BELIEVE AMBER AND JOSUE HAD LOOKED AT SOME PROTOTYPES, UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE EVER GOT INTO THE WATER, BUT IN SPEAKING WITH, UH, CASSIE FROM STORMWATER DEPARTMENT, SHE WANTED TO LOOK INTO THOSE AGAIN TOO, BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING WITH HER ON THE DIFFERENT, UM, DATA THAT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TURN IN FOR THE MS FOUR PERMIT.
AND, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE'S INTERESTED IN DOING.
SO WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND MIKE AND I RECENTLY DID A TOUR, UM, AT PLASTIC PACK, AND ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, UM, PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT THEY USED WAS DESIGNED BY KIDS AT THE KIDS GRTC.
UM, SO MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO.
MAYBE THEY CAN, THAT THE, THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT THEY CAME UP WITH WAS SO SIMPLE, BUT SO GENIUS AT THE SAME TIME WHERE IT WAS JUST LIKE, OH, LIKE AS ADULTS, WE'VE OVERTHOUGHT IT FOR THE LAST 80 YEARS.
AND IT WAS LIKE, THE KIDS WERE LIKE, PUT SOME WEIGHTS HERE, PUT A CHAIN HERE, BOOM, IT'S DONE.
AND THEY JUST SOLVED THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS. SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TOY WITH THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL KIDS, THEIR ENGINEERING KIDS, WHERE MAYBE THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE COST EFFECTIVE FOR US.
AND IT HELPS THEIR LITTLE BRAINS GROW.
SO WHEN WE, I'M JUST WONDERING IS THIS IS NOT JUST OUR LAND, LIKE THE WATER BELONG, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST GARLAND, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND DO WE SHARE THE SHORELINE WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, OR IS IT JUST GARLAND, OR IS IT ETTE TOO? BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THAT AREA.
YEAH, I THINK THAT THERE'S NINE SURROUNDING CITIES ON THAT, HUBBARD.
SO EACH OF THESE CITIES HAVE THE SAME ISSUES.
SO IN WORKING IN ETTE PREVIOUSLY, YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE OUR HOT SPOTS.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CONTINUOUSLY BUILD UP.
SO DALLAS IS WORKING WITH NOT JUST CITY OF GARLAND, BUT ROULETTE, ROCKWELL, ALL OF THESE ENTITIES THAT HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEMS. YEAH.
BECAUSE YOU CAN CLEAN IT UP, BUT LIKE LISA, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT STORM, THE NEXT WHATEVER, IT'S BACK IN THERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS LIKE A, UM, YOU LIKE DO ONE OF 'EM OWN ONE AND WE CAN LIKE SHARE
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A COLLABORATION THAT WE CAN DO WITH OTHERS AND BE LIKE, HEY, LET'S HELP.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I'M JUST LIKE, DALLAS OWNS THAT AMPHIBIOUS EXCAVATOR, BUT AGAIN, I WANNA SAY THEY'VE HAD IT AT ALMOST A YEAR NOW, AND THEY'RE NOT TRAINED ON IT.
UM, AND SO THEY ARE NOT UTILIZING THAT.
UM, AND YOU, YOU CAN'T JUST GO OUT.
I COULDN'T JUST GO OUT AND GET ON THAT BECAUSE IF I MOVE THAT ARM, IF I MOVE THE GRAPPLE TOO FAST, EVIDENTLY THE WHOLE THING WILL CAPSIZE, THEN I HAVE A LARGER PROBLEM ON MY HANDS.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE SPECIALLY TRAINED AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE USING THE EQUIPMENT PROPERLY.
IT'S A HUGE PIECE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING THAT OUT THERE.
BUT THEY HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE A TEAM OF FIVE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR LIKE RECOVERED.
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SEE IF THERE'S A YOUTUBE VIDEO? I'M JUST SAYING.WHEN WE, WHEN WE MET WITH THEM, UM, THE SOP, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO WORK WITH US BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN PROACTIVE IN OUR APPROACH WITH THEM SO THAT THEY COULD BRING IT OUT AND WE COULD CREATE THAT SOP TOGETHER TO KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO SAY WHEN THEY GO OUT TO A CITY.
THESE ARE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED.
THIS IS THE EQUIPMENT WE NEED.
BUT IT'S JUST GETTING TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, LIMITED BY THEIR RESOURCES AS WELL.
I CAN IMAGINE, LIKE YOU SAID, WELL THIS 949 FOR A ONE TIME CLEANUP, JUST THAT WOULD BE A WASTE.
AND THEN, YEAH, I DON'T THINK MIKE IS READY TO DIVIV MONEY LIKE THAT TOO.
SO I GUESS JUST MAKE FORTH EFFORTS WITH OUR CLEANUPS.
I KNOW IN TALKING TO JOSUE, UM, RECENTLY, I THINK THERE ARE SOME MORE EFFORTS THAT WE COULD DO WITH THE HOUSING ASSOCIATIONS, UH, THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, UH, IN THAT AREA.
JUST MAKING SURE THEY ARE AWARE THAT VOLUNTEER GARLAND EFFORTS ARE THERE.
UM, LITTER KITS ARE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, TO HELP THEM.
LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY A TIMES, BEING PROACTIVE IN TAKING CARE OF THE ISSUE INSTEAD OF JUST CONSTANTLY REPORTING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, EXPECTING CITY RESOURCES.
THEY CAN ALSO BE PROACTIVE AND HELP THEIR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO I THINK THERE'S SOME, SOME EFFORTS WE COULD DO WITH THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, HOPEFULLY FINGERS CROSSED, WE'RE NEARING THE END OF, UM, THE HOT, HOT SEASON OF BOATING.
UM, BUT ONE THING ABOUT MEN IN THEIR BOATS AND, UM, YOU WILL FIND ANY REASON TO GO TAKE THAT BOAT OUT ON THE WATER, RIGHT? AND THEY LIKE TO HANG OUT ON PARTY.
THEY LIKE TO BE WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND SOCIALIZE.
SO MAYBE WE SHOULD HIT THE DOCKS AND MAKE SOME FRIENDS WITH BOATS AND TAKE LITTER KIDS WITH US.
I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.
UM, PARTNERING WITH THE KAYAK PLACE, UM, RIGHT THERE ON MILLER.
WE COULD DO LIKE A KAYAK CLEANUP 'CAUSE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO GO FOR SPINNING A KAYAK? YOU KNOW? UM, SO I'LL GIVE A HOST AWAY ON THOSE, BUT THAT'S GOOD.
UM, I, IT IS MOST DEFINITELY A PROBLEM THAT IS NEVER GONNA GO AWAY.
UM, AND I, I THINK FINDING THE, THE BEST FEASIBLE AND FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY TO, TO DO OUR PART IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, AND DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD? OH, I HAVE A LOT
SO IF YOU'RE GETTING READY, I'M READY TO GO Y'ALL ON FOR IT.
LET ME FIRST START OUT BY SAYING THAT, UH, I DO APPRECIATE THAT THE, UH, CHAIRPERSON AND THE CITY MANAGER HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER AND HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS.
IT SOUNDS, AS IT RELATES TO HOW TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, TAKE BOTH OF YOU A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE EXPECTATION OF A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT BEING NEEDED TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
THIS IS NOT A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ISSUE.
IF YOU WILL GO BACK TO THE, UH, SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED ALL OF THE DEBRIS MM-HMM
AND I THINK IT'S FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS.
IF THIS WERE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ISSUE, THEN WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE SITTING HERE.
BUT NO, THIS IS A, A CITY OF GARLAND ISSUE.
WE ARE PRESENTLY FACED WITH A SITUATION OF WHERE WE'VE DONE A CBZ STUDY.
WE'VE DONE, MATTER OF FACT, WE ARE IN A PROCESS RIGHT NOW, GARLAND ON THE RISE.
AND THAT PROGRAM IS AN ATTEMPT TO TAKE OUR CITY OUT OF THE CHAOTIC SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN PRESENTLY AS AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING TAXATION, BEING BO ON OUR HOUSES AND THINGS IN, IN OUR AREA THAN THEY ARE AT OTHERS.
IT'S A SITUATION OF WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, BUILD SOMEWHAT A TRUST WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S A SITUATION OF WHERE WE ARE TALKING AT THIS POINT, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS GROWING UNDER RISE SITUATION OF TAKING OUR CITY TO A POINT THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE VIABLE AND VITAL TO THIS REGION AND TO THIS COMMUNITY.
SO THIS IS NOT A SITUATION OF A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
THIS IS A SITUATION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, TRANSCENDING TRANS, TAKING OUR CITY FROM WHERE WE ARE PRESENTLY, TO A LEVEL OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME AND LIVE IN THIS AREA, LIVE, PLAY, GROW.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS REVITALIZING SOUTH HARLEM, BY THE WAY OF ITS HARBOR POINT.
WE PUT $25 MILLION INTO THAT AREA.
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WHY ARE WE TRYING TO REVITALIZE HARBOR POINT? BECAUSE WHAT THE CCBC SETTING, WE'RE GOING TO WRITE REVITALIZE STRATEGIC AREAS WITHIN THE CITY THAT HOPEFULLY WILL DEAL WITH OUR HOUSING STOCK.BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE ALSO HAVE TO COME UP WITH WAYS BY WHICH WE'RE GOING TO BUILD DESTINATION LOCATIONS.
WE'RE GONNA BEGIN TO BRING PEOPLE TO OUR COMMUNITY SUCH THAT WE CAN NOT JUST RELY UPON THE HOMEOWNERS AND PROPERTY TAXES, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO RELY UPON PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO OUR CITY IN ORDER TO HAVE FUN.
THE HARBOR POINT AREA, DISTRICT FOUR AND DISTRICT THREE IS ONE OF THE MOST VITAL, IMPORTANT STOCK PIECES THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
IT IS THE FINAL FRONTIER WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT TO GO IN ORDER TO GET THOSE NEW DESTINATION LOCATIONS.
AND SO NOW WE BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT, YOU JUST SAW A LOT OF SLIDES GO THROUGH HERE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.
DALLAS OWNS PART OF THE SHORELINE.
WE'RE A RESPONSIBLE PART OF IT.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA GO AWAY TOMORROW.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE FROM NOW ON.
I FEEL WE'RE TREATING THIS LIKE WE DID OUR WINDSURF BAY PARK.
YOU KNOW, WINDSURF BAY PARK IS STILL NOT OPEN.
IT'S OPEN DURING THE WEEK, BUT FOR THOSE RESIDENTS AND FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT PIECE OF LAND, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, I USE THE WORD ATROCIOUS AND WE HAVE KIND OF PUT OUR HEADS TO THE SAND AS IF TO SAY THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
I'M SAYING TO YOU TODAY THAT YES, THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
WE CAN, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO JUST PUT OUR HEADS IN THE SAND AND ACT LIKE IT DOESN'T EXIST.
IN FACT, WE SHARE THE SHORELINE WITH ALL THESE OTHER CITIES.
THEIR TRASH COMES INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
THE TIDE BRINGS IT INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT THE SLIDE AND THEN THE TRASH THAT'S INSIDE, IF IT OVERLOAD
AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT ALL WE'RE GONNA DO IS GO OUT AND GET A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
THIS PROBLEM IS MUCH BIGGER, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAN WHAT YOU ARE PUTTING FORWARD.
AND I'M SAYING TO OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE MEMBERS OF DISTRICT THREE AND DISTRICT FOUR, THAT IF WE DON'T RESOLVE THIS ISSUE AND HOW DO WE RESOLVE IT, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE RESOLVE IT IS ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, ALL THE DIFFERENT SLIDES YOU SHOWED US, NOBODY IS WORKING TOGETHER.
WE'RE PUTTING A BANDAGE, PUTTING ALCOHOL, PIECEMEALING, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH POLICY AND PROCEDURES.
THIS SHOULD BE A SITUATION OF WHERE WE PULL TOGETHER A COMMITTEE OR WE PULL TOGETHER A STUDY OF SOMETHING.
A STUDY IS WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU, BECAUSE IN THE END, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY REGARDLESS.
THE MONEY IS GONNA HAVE TO BE SPENT IF IN FACT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD UP THOSE AREAS.
BUT THIS IS NOT A MATTER OF A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
THIS IS A MATTER OF THE FUTURE OF GARLAND'S EXES AND TO COME AGAIN.
AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT I'VE FOUND THAT.
I'VE BEEN PUTTING THIS OFF FOR SIX YEARS.
EVERY CITY MANAGER THAT I'VE TALKED TO, PARKS AND RECREATIONAL HAVE TOLD ME THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT WE CAN DO.
WE'VE GOT THE CITY OF DALLAS, THEY BELIEVE THIS, AND WE'VE GOT VOLUNTEERISM.
I'M SAYING TO YOU TODAY THAT WE'VE GOT TO STOP BEING REACTIONARY AND BECOME PROACTIVE.
HOW DO WE RESOLVE THIS ISSUE? WE PULL TOGETHER THESE DEPARTMENTS AND IF WE NEED TO GO IN AND TALK TO DALLAS AGAIN, I SAT DOWN WITH THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL PERSON, TOOK 'EM OUT TO UH, OUR FAVORITE RESTAURANT, LITTLE BRAZIL.
WE SAT DOWN, MISS, UH, PAULA BLACKMAN, AND I SAT DOWN AND I SHOWED HER.
SHE GAVE US MONEY, SHE GAVE US PREMISES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT FINALLY HAPPENED WITH THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT FINALLY HAPPENED WITH IT, BUT THEY WERE READY TO WORK WITH US.
WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SAY THAT DALLAS WILL NOT WORK WITH US.
WHEN I WORKED WITH THEM, WHEN I SAT DOWN WITH THEM, THEY WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH US.
BUT EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO WORK WITH US, THIS IS
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NOT, IT IS A DALLAS PROBLEM.WE'RE THE ONES WHO ARE SEEKING TO, TO GROW OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE THE ONES WHO ARE SEEKING TO BRING PEOPLE HERE.
WE'RE THE, AND IF WE CAN TELL ANY DEVELOPER, BUT THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, IT IS NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
YOU TOLD DEVELOPER SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHO WANTS TO COME TO GARLAND? I'M SAYING WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE.
AND NOW THAT I'VE HEARD
I'LL TOO PUT TOGETHER A SLIDE PRESENTATION.
I'LL TOO PUT TOGETHER SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT I HAVE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
I'VE NEVER THOUGHT THAT I WOULD WALK IN HERE TODAY AND HAVE A DIRECTION ALREADY ESTABLISHED, HAVE A DIRECTION ALREADY SET AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THIS PROBLEM IS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA RESOLVE IT.
I THINK THAT YOU'RE THINKING VERY SMALL.
I THINK THAT WE CAN BE MUCH MORE CRITICAL WHEN IT COMES TO THINKING THIS.
AND I THINK FOR THE FUTURE OF GARLAND, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE ON OUR SLATE.
I DO WANNA SAY THAT I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE IS TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE PROBLEM.
I THINK THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A PROBLEM.
SO I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BRING THIS BACK, UM, AT OUR NEXT COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING.
BRING SOME, BRING SOME SOLUTIONS.
UM, AND IF YOU COULD THINK OF SOME THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE BOX THAT YOU CAN ADD IN THERE, BY ALL MEANS, PLEASE DO IT.
THERES NOTHING FOR ME TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED, WE HAVE GREAT.
THEY PUT, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT HERE ON THESE SLIDES.
ALL WE'VE GOT TO DO AT THIS POINT IS BRING THEM TOGETHER, SET THEM DOWN IN THE SAME ROOM AND SAY, WE GOT AN ISSUE.
AND A MACHINE, A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, IS NOT GONNA RESOLVE IT THE SAME WAY.
I MEAN, I SAT HERE AND YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB TO LEAD.
DON'T PUT THIS LIVE PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
I WISH I'D SEEN IT BEFORE I CAME, BUT I'M GLAD I DIDN'T.
'CAUSE I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SPEAKING THE WAY THAT I'M RIGHT NOW.
I'M SPEAKING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'M SPEAKING WITH PASSION.
I'M SPEAKING WITH THE PASSION OF A REPRESENTATIVE OF A DISTRICT THAT DESERVES MORE.
SO NOW YOU HAVE THE CHALLENGE OF YOUR LIFE.
OUR NEXT CSC MEETING, I EXPECT, UM, THE MOST AMAZING PRESENTATION THAT YOU'VE EVER PUT TOGETHER IN ENTIRE, IT'S THE MOST SIMPLEST THING YOU EVER SEEN, BUT YES, WE AGREED TOGETHER.
ALRIGHT, SCOTT, WILL YOU, UM, MOVE THIS TO, UM, CONTINUE AT OUR NEXT CSC MEETING WITH, UM, MR. MOORE AS OUR PRESENTER? THANK YOU MADAM JUDGE.
AND WE ARE MOVING ON TO OUR FINAL SUBJECT ITEM, WHICH IS 3D NATIVE ONE PROGRAM.
WE'VE GOT, UH, BRIAN MOORE'S, OUR DIRECTOR OF FOOT COMPLAINTS.
AND MR. WELCOME TO THE HOT GUYS.
UH, BRIAN MORRIS, CO COMPLIANCE DIRECTOR, UH, HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT AND DISCUSS NATURAL, HISTORIC AND SCIENTIFIC, UH, EXCEPTIONS FOR OUR TALL WEEDS AND ENFORCEMENT.
UH, SO JUST A BIT OF BACKGROUND.
THIS IS AN AREA THAT CAUSES A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION FOR OUR TEAM.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, IT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE WHERE, OF COURSE OUR HEIGHT LIMITATIONS ARE 12 INCHES.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A REASONABLE DEFENSE THAT IF THE APPLICANT IS INTERESTED IN SEEKING AN EXCEPTION
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FOR SCIENTIFIC OR SIGNIFICANTLY HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT GRASSES, THAT THERE CAN BE AN EXCEPTION MADE, UM, OUR TEAM OR IS NOT NECESSARILY EXPERTS IN THAT FIELD WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIFIC TEXAS NATIVE GRASSES.SO, UH, WE'RE THE ORDINANCES ARE SILENT WHEN IT COMES TO HOW WE GO ABOUT TO IDENTIFY AND REGULATE AND TO MAINTAIN SOME, SOME BOUNDARIES BECAUSE, UH, WE WANT TO DO IS TO MAINTAIN THE APPEARANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, RIGHT? SO IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, UM, SOME OF THESE AREAS CAN BE UNSIGHTLY AT TIMES.
SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE SEEKING SOME GUIDANCE AND, AND TO ALSO JUST EXPRESS SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IN ENFORCING AND INTERPRETING, UH, THIS ORDINANCE.
ALRIGHT, SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE CURRENT TENSION, UH, REVOLVES AROUND RESIDENTS SEEKING TO PRESERVE NATIVE PRAIRIE OR WILDLIFE HABITATS.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR CLEAR CRITERIA TO SEPARATE, INTENTIONALLY MAINTAIN AREAS FROM UNMANAGED WEEDS AND, AND VEGETATION.
RIGHT? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE SAYING THAT THEY'RE GROWING AN INTENTIONAL LANDSCAPE VERSUS SOMEONE THAT JUST DOESN'T WANT TO CUT THEIR YARD AND HE WANTS TO USE THIS AS A, AS A LOOPHOLE TO NOT MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE GUIDE THAT HELPS TO APPLY, UM, CODE OF ORDINANCES UNDER 32 52 TO PROTECT THE ECOLOGICAL VALUE WITHOUT REDUCING NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A QUICK PAUSE REAL FAST OF OKAY.
TWO, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE ON.
SO, UH, SO AS WE ARE LOOKING FOR A POLICY BALANCE THAT ALLOWS FOR PRESERVATION, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE MANY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, UH, THAT STUDY AND REALLY TAKE VALUE IN PRESERVING THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANT VEGETATION.
UH, BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAINTAIN THE AESTHETICS AND MAINTAIN A QUALITY, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENVIRONMENT THAT, THAT ENCOURAGE PEOPLES COME AND LIVE AND WORK AND PLAY.
SO, TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT BALANCE WITH THIS POLICY.
AND THEN EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT TO MAKE DECISIONS REBUTTABLE, UH, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF IT CAN BE SUBJECTIVE AS TO WHAT QUALIFIES OR WHAT IS APPEALING.
AND OUR INSPECTORS AND OUR TEAM, EVEN MYSELF, WE'RE NOT EXPERTS IN THESE SPECIFIC AREAS WITH THIS VEGETATION.
SO MAKING SOMETHING THAT'S REPEATABLE AND CONSISTENT.
SO WE ARE ACROSS THE BOARD ENFORCING IT THE SAME WAY.
SO AS PART OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR AN APPROVAL TEST IS FOR, TO PUT THE ONUS ON THE APPLICANT TO, UM, CERTIFY THE SIGNIFICANCE, THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PLANT SPECIES.
UH, DEFINE THE AREAS WITH CLEAR BORDERS THAT HAVE QUALITY AESTHETICS AND THEN MAINTENANCE.
SO ONCE YOU HAVE IT INSTALLED AND IN PLACE, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IT OVER THE COURSE OF THE GROWING SEASON AND WHEN IT'S NOT GROWING, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T WANNA JUST PLANT IT AND THEN FORGET IT.
UH, IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED CONSISTENTLY.
SO THREE STEPS, ESTABLISH, ESTABLISH THE SIGNIFICANCE, UH, DEFINE THE AREA CLEARLY WITH A SITE PLAN THAT WE CAN MEASURE AND WE CAN, UH, MEASURE THAT AGAINST THE MAINTENANCE PLAN AND THEN ENSURE THAT IT'S MAINTENANCE MAINTAINED ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WE CAN GO BACK AND CHECK PERIODICALLY TO ENSURE AND STILL MEETS THAT, UH, REQUIREMENT.
UM, SO FIVE STEP PROCESS AND, AND, AND JUST A DECLARATION OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT DOESN'T COME FROM US, THAT COMES FROM A CERTIFIED AGENCY, UH, THAT CAN DESIGNATE THE NATURAL, HISTORIC OR SCIENTIFIC VALUE OF THOSE PLANTS.
UM, THE PLANT DETAILS, LISTING THE NAME, THE SPECIFIC, UH, SPECIES AND THE ECOLOGICAL BENEFITS THAT NEEDS TO BE LAID OUT IN THAT PLANT THAT THEY PROVIDE TO US.
UH, THE MAINTENANCE, ONGOING MAINTENANCE, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE REMOVING DEAD MATERIAL, UH, WEED CONTROL, AND THEN MITIGATING ANY FIRE RISK.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY WE HAVE A 12 INCH HEIGHT, UM, LIMITATION IS FOR FIRE CONTROL, RIGHT? SO THESE WILL EXCEED THAT 12 INCHES.
UH, BUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE SOME FIRE RISK MITIGATION
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AND SEASONAL MANAGEMENT, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE SITE PLAN, THE MAP SO WE CAN SHOW WHAT'S INTENTIONAL AND NOT JUST GROWING UP, YOU KNOW, IN A WILD LANDSCAPE, BUT AN INTENTIONAL PLAN THAT WE CAN HOLD TO ACCOUNT.AND THEN SUPPORTING EVIDENCE, UM, PROVIDING PHOTOS, HABITAT CERTIFICATION FROM NATIONAL RE, NATIONAL RESOURCES, UM, NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ORGANIZATIONS, TEXAS A AND M, TP, WD, UH, AND OTHER NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AGENCIES.
UM, SO JUST A FEW THAT WE LISTED.
THESE ARE NOT, THIS IS NOT ALL INCLUSIVE OR MEANT TO BE AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT WE HAVE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, UH, TEXAS A AND M, AGRILIFE, EXTENSION, U-S-D-A-N-R-C-S, AND FEDERAL STATE CONSERVATION SUPPORT.
UH, SO THESE ARE JUST, THESE ARE SPECIALISTS, THESE ARE SCIENTISTS, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT SPECIALIZE IN THESE AREAS.
AND IF THEY CERTIFY THAT THESE PARTICULAR SPECIES MEET THE CRITERIA, THAT SAVES US THE STEP OF TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND GUESS AND BE SUBJECTIVE WHEN WE ANALYZE IT.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE'RE TALKING, UH, MAINTENANCE AND SAFETY CRITERIA.
UM, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO MAKE THIS MORE MANAGEABLE.
UM, AND IT IS, IT IS GONNA BE A TASK FOR US.
IT REALLY IS A, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NORMALLY DO.
UM, IT IS A DRAW ON RESOURCES WHERE WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THESE, UH, APPLICATIONS.
UM, BUT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, UH, WE WANT THEM TO IDENTIFY THE DEFINED BOUNDARIES, UM, UH, MAINTAIN FIRE RISK CONTROLS, UH, PREVENT NUISANCE WEEDS, TRASH, AND RODENT HARBORS, WHICH CAN HAPPEN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NATIVE PRAIRIE GRASSES.
THESE, THESE WERE ORIGINALLY COULD BE THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD, BUT THEY WERE DESIGNED FOR A PRAIRIE, WHICH WAS HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ACRES, NOT NECESSARILY A QUARTER ACRE OR A THIRD OF AN ACRE LOT.
UH, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MIXED MATCH WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND PRESERVING PRAIRIE LAND.
UM, SO AESTHETIC WISE, UH, NO.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE LOOKED AT IS AVOIDING, UM, SITE TRIANGLE OBSTRUCTION.
SO IF YOU HAVE IT, THAT'S WHERE IT OBSTRUCTS THE DRIVER'S VIEW AND TRYING TO MAKE A RIGHT OR A LEFT.
YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DO ALLOW IT, THAT IT DOES NOT BLOCK THAT TRIANGLE.
IT CAUSE ANY VISIBILITY ISSUES, BLOCKING SIDEWALKS RIGHT OF WAYS, EASEMENTS OR UTILITIES.
AND THEN ONGOING ACCOUNTABILITY FOR MAINTENANCE AND, UH, MAKING THE APPROVED PLAN.
UH, JUST STICKING TO THAT, TO THAT APPROVED PLAN.
UH, QUICK RECAP OF THE WORKFLOW.
WE SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, UH, INCLUDING ALL OF THE HOMEWORK THAT THE APPLICANT IS, UH, ASSIGNED TO DO.
THEY'RE DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THAT, THEY SUBMIT THAT TO US AND THEY COMPLETE PACKAGE.
UH, WE'LL REVIEW THAT AGAINST ALL THE CRITERIA, UH, THE NUISANCE ISSUES, FIRE CONTROL, PSYCH VISIBILITY, RODENT HARBOR BRIDGE, UH, SO ON AND SO ON, AND AESTHETICS AS WELL.
SO SOME OF IT WILL BE A JUDGMENT CALL.
IF IT'S NOT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, WE DO HAVE THE ULTIMATE ABILITY TO DENY THE APPLICATION.
UM, THEN WE'LL HAVE A TECHNICAL REVIEW AND A FINAL DECISION.
IF IT'S APPROVED, UH, THEN WE WILL MONITOR IT ON A PERIODIC BASIS.
AGAIN, THIS, THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE WORKLOAD THAT THE TEAM IS ALREADY INCURRED.
UH, SPEAKING OF WORKLOAD AND TECHNICAL LIMITATIONS, WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT, BUT I'LL JUST COME BACK TO IT AGAIN HERE, THAT, UH, WE ARE NOT EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD BY NO SHAPE, FORM, OR FASHION.
UH, WE WILL BE RELYING ON EXPERTS IN THESE AREAS TO HELP US TO DETERMINE THE VALIDITY OF THE, OF THE REQUEST.
UH, THE MONITORING WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD ON OUR TEAMS, UM, TO GO BACK AND MONITOR THESE PROPERTIES ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND, AND WE DO THINK THERE WILL BE SOME, AND WE, WE'VE HAD A FEW APPLICATIONS.
UM, MANY ARE WELL-INTENTIONED, WELL RESEARCHED.
UH, WE, WE WILL HAVE A FEW THAT JUST KNOW OF BIG POTENTIAL LOOPHOLE AND WANT TO USE THAT LOOPHOLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR YARDS, HOW THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN THOSE YARDS.
SO, UH, IT'S, IT IS A PROCESS FOR US.
ALRIGHT, SO HERE IS JUST THAT AS WE'RE WRAPPING UP, HERE'S ON THE LEFT, THERE'S A PICTURE.
THIS IS AI GENERATOR, RIGHT? THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS WHAT MANY OF THEM, MANY OF THE APPLICANTS
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WILL PURPORT THEIR LAW TO WANNA LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? IN REALITY, MANY OF THEM LOOK LIKE THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT.AND, AND EVEN WHEN IT APPEARS LIKE THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT DURING DORMANT SEASONS, IT'S NOT VERY ATTRACTIVE IN SOME CASES IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE AESTHETIC BALANCING QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO WAIVE THAT DOES THIS LOOK GOOD FOR THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, SO SOME POTENTIAL IMPACTS, IT INCREASES COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS WHO MAY NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND OR WELCOME THIS PROPERTY ON THEIR NEXT TO THEIR QUARTER ACRE LOT.
UM, SO IT WILL INCREASE SOME CONVERSATION AND POTENTIAL CONFUSION AMONG THE RESIDENTS WHO, UH, DON'T AGREE OR DON'T UNDERSTAND.
AND, AND WE'LL HAVE TO FILL THOSE CALLS AND, AND EDUCATE THEM, OF COURSE, UM, POTENTIALLY SOME RODENT HARBORAGE UNMANAGED WEEDS AND THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
UH, SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE WANNA DO TO MITIGATE THAT IS REQUIRE MAINTAIN BORDERS, UH, BUFFERS IN BETWEEN AS A, AS A FIRE BREAK, UH, AND VISIBLE LIMITATIONS THAT WE CAN MEASURE AGAINST AND JUST CONTINUAL, CONTINUAL MAINTENANCE.
WE'RE USING A FIVE POINT, UH, FIVE PART DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE TO CONFIRM THE CRITERIA, SEE IF IT'S, APPROVE IT WITH THE CONDITIONS AND PRESERVE ENFORCEMENT, OUR RIGHT TO ENFORCE IF IT COMES FALSE OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, AND CONCERNS.
SO I'M GONNA PREFACE THIS WITH SAYING WE'RE GONNA END UP MOVING THIS TO OUR NEXT, UM, MEETING ALSO, UM, BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS WHAT, WHAT BROUGHT THIS UM, OUT WAS OUR ISSUE LAST YEAR WITH SOME NATIVE LAWNS.
UM, AND TRYING TO ADDRESS THE TIME THAT WAS SPENT ON IT FROM OUR STAFF PERSPECTIVE.
OUR CODE GUYS ARE NOT TRAINED IN, UM, BOTANY.
THEY'RE NOT HORTICULTURES, THEY'RE, THAT IS NOT THEIR JOB.
THAT IS NOT WHAT I WOULD EVER EXPECT OUR CO DEPARTMENT TO HAVE TO SPEND THEIR WEEKENDS LEARNING.
UM, AND THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.
WE HAVE KEEP GARLAND BEAUTIFUL.
WE HAVE, UM, MASTER GARDENERS, WE HAVE PLENTY OF, UM, LOCAL RESOURCES THAT WE CAN TAP INTO TO HELP US WITH THIS JOURNEY.
UM, AND SO I, I HAVE MY OWN, UM, LITTLE LAYOUT OF WHAT I FEEL THE PROGRAM, UM, COULD OPERATE UNDER BECAUSE THE, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO BE A ZERO COST, UM, PROGRAM FOR THE CITY.
IT IS NOT TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL WORK ONTO YOU GUYS.
IT IS ACTUALLY QUITE THE OPPOSITE.
IT SHOULD BE THOUGHT OUT WELL ENOUGH THAT YOU GUYS, ASIDE FROM TAKING THE APPLICATIONS, THE ONLY THING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS DRIVE PAST A HOUSE.
YOU SEE THE SIGN, YOU KNOW THAT SOMEONE HAS ALREADY CERTIFIED IT AND YOU GO ON, RIGHT? THAT IS, THAT IS THE INTENTION OF HAVING THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE WITH THE WAY MY LITTLE P BRAIN, UM, ENVISIONED IT.
SO, UM, I'VE LOOKED IT GARLAND NATURALLY BEAUTIFUL.
AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE CAN CHANGE IT.
I'M NOT THE BOSS OF ANYBODY, BUT, UM, AND SO THE, THE CORE PRINCIPLE IS NATIVE DOES NOT MEAN NEGLECTED.
SO, UM, I AM, I'M GOING TO HAND OVER MY, MY LITTLE, UM, OUTLINE TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN, THAT'LL GIVE US SOME TIME TO KIND OF, UM, GET TOGETHER AND, UH, FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, SOME MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
UM, SO THE, THE BASIC IDEA IS TO GIVE RESIDENTS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A NATIVE LANDSCAPE WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY THAT CODE COMPLIANCE IS GONNA LOOK AT IT AND THINK THAT'S JUST AN OVERGROWN LAWN.
UM, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE STOP ENFORCING OUR VISITATION ORDINANCE.
I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE CREATE A VOLUNTEER CERTIFICATION PROGRAM THAT CLEARLY IDENTIFIES A PROPERTY AS HAVING AN INTENTIONAL MAINTAINED NATIVE LANDSCAPE.
THERE WOULD BE A NATIVE GAR OR A GARLAND NATURALLY CERTIFICATION AND LAWN SIGN THAT TELES CODE COMPLIANCES PROPERTY IS PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM.
THE PROGRAM WOULD HAVE VERY CLEAR RULES.
NATIVE LANDSCAPING DOESN'T MEAN THAT RESIDENTS CAN JUST STOP MAINTAINING THEIR YARD.
THE LANDSCAPE WOULD STILL NEED TO LOOK INTENTIONAL, MAINTAINED AND MANICURED.
UM, THERE WOULD BE, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE CLEARLY DEFINED AREAS FOR
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NATIVE VEGETATION, BEDS, BORDERS, EDGING, MULCH, STONES, MOWED AREAS, ET CETERA, THAT CAN VISUALLY TELL WHERE NATIVE LANDSCAPING BEGINS AND ENDS.SIDEWALK, DRIVEWAY PATHWAYS, DRAINAGE AREAS, LINES OF SIGHT WOULD STILL HAVE TO ROOM REMAIN CLEAR.
WE COULD ALSO ESTABLISH A MAINTAINED BORDER, UM, OR TRANSITION AREA AROUND THE NATIVE LANDSCAPES SO THAT THERE IS A FINISHED APPEARANCE.
SO THE IMPORTANT DISTINCTION IS TALL.
TALL BECAUSE IT'S INTENTIONALLY PLANTED VERSUS TALL BECAUSE NOBODY IS MAINTAINING IT.
UM, I ALSO, AGAIN, WANT THIS TO BE ZERO COST TO THE CITY.
UM, I WOULD ENVISION THAT WE USE OUR TRAINED VOLUNTEERS TO REVIEW AND CERTIFY PROPERTIES OTHER THAN CREATING ANOTHER CITY INSPECTION PROGRAM.
THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
WE COULD POTENTIALLY PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE KEEP GARLAND, BEAUTIFUL, MASTER GARDENERS, NATURAL MASTER NATURALISTS AND NATIVE PLANT ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE VOLUNTEERS AND EXPERTISE.
SO THE CITY WOULD ESTABLISH THE STANDARDS, MAINTAIN THE CERTIFICATION DESIGNATION, AND MAKE SURE CODE COMPLIANCE KNOWS HOW TO RECOGNIZE AND HANDLE THE CERTIFIED PROPERTIES.
THE CERTIFICATION WOULD NOT GIVE ANYONE IMMUNITY FROM CODE COMPLIANCE.
UM, THEN IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S CLASSIFIED BOX DRAINAGE, UM, FIRE HAZARDS, VISIBILITY ISSUES, UM, CITY WOULD STILL ENFORCE THAT.
SO THOSE ARE STILL ENFORCEABLE BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN, NOT JUST LET IT DO ITS OWN THING.
UM, SO THE, THE MAIN ACCOMPLISHMENT IS SAVING STAFF TIME, BUT ALSO WHILE ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT FREEDOM OF HAVING THAT NATURAL BOND, WHATEVER THAT MAY LOOK LIKE.
UM, I WILL SAY I DISCOVERED A DESSERT BELOW TREES, UH, OVER THIS PAST MONTH, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN A BUMBLEBEE IN REAL LIFE UNTIL I WAS AT THE MUNICIPAL COURT BUILDING.
AND SO NOW I HAVE A HOARD OF SEEDS IN MY BAG, UM, FROM THOSE TREES BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PLANT THEM EVERYWHERE.
SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE OUR RESIDENTS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, UM, AND TO DO THOSE THINGS WITHOUT, UM, COMPROMISING THE AESTHETICS AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND I THINK THAT WITH A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH DATA CENTERS AND WATER USAGE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, I THINK THAT THE POTENTIAL FOR AN UPTICK OF NATIVE NATURAL LAWNS IS GOING TO IT.
THE POTENTIAL FOR IT TO EXPAND IS THERE.
AND SO I WOULD JUST WANT US TO BE AHEAD OF THE GAME AND IF WE CAN DO THAT NOW WHERE WE'RE JUST GETTING IT GOING AND HAVE IT MASTERED BEFORE THE BOOM HITS, I THINK THAT WE WILL BE DOING OURSELVES THE GREAT SERVICE.
BUT AGAIN, AT IT IS ZERO COST TO THE CITY.
SO, UM, I WILL GIVE YOU MY, MY LITTLE OUTLINE AND THEN WE WILL GET TOGETHER BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING, IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
CAN I MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS? OH, NO, WE'RE DONE,
UM, IT, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME A LITTLE BIT, JUST 'CAUSE A, AS A FAN OF NATIVE, UH, VEGETATION AND, AND HAVE HAD IT IN MY OWN YARD OVER THE YEARS, UM, I, I THINK THERE'S A PATHWAY FORWARD.
UM, I JUST DO WANNA SHARE TWO CONCERNS JUST SO MY CONSCIENCE IS CLEAN.
UM, MUCH LIKE THE LAST AGENDA ITEM, EVERYTHING IS ABOUT RESOURCES.
IT IS ABOUT EQUIPMENT, TIME, PEOPLE, AND MONEY.
UM, AND IF WE CAN FIND A WAY THAT THIS CAN BE BENEFICIAL AND ENJOYABLE FOR FOLKS, UM, I THINK THERE IS A PATHWAY, BUT I DO WANNA BE MINDFUL THAT IT, IT WILL STILL REQUIRE SOME RESOURCES.
I'M, I'M, I APPRECIATE YOUR SENTIMENT OF TRYING TO REDUCE IT FROM THE CODE TEAM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND UTILIZING, UM, THE RIGHT VOLUNTEERS AND THE RIGHT, I HAVE SOME IDEAS ON HOW THAT MIGHT BE STRUCTURED.
SO IT CAN BE APPROVED, APPROVED CONSISTENTLY, UM, IN, IN THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE AND STILL, YOU KNOW, UH, SLOW THINGS DOWN, BUT ALSO NOT DRAG ON THEIR TIME.
THERE'LL BE SOME CHALLENGES, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH IT.
AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, IS JUST KNOW IN ADVANCE, UM, NOT EVERYBODY'S A FAN.
UM, I GET MORE COMPLAINTS THAN I DO REQUESTS FOR NATIVE LAWNS.
UM, IS THE ONE, THE ONE THAT I'VE APPROVED PER THE ORDINANCE.
AND IN MY TIME IN THIS ROLE, UM, WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES I'VE SEEN.
UM, BUT WE ONLY BECAME AWARE OF IT BECAUSE A DOZEN NEIGHBORS CALLED AND COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.
UM, THEY DID IT AS WELL AS ANYBODY COULD DO IT.
UH, THEY HAVE PLANTS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR VARIOUS BLOOMING CYCLES, THEY LOOK GREAT MAYBE THREE MONTHS A YEAR, AND THEN THE REST OF THE YEAR TO EVERYONE ELSE, THEY LOOK LIKE WEEDS.
AND THEN THERE IS THE CHALLENGE OF MAINTAINING IT, EVEN ONCE IT'S ESTABLISHED AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT IT GROWING.
YOU'VE GOTTA, YOU'VE GOTTA COMBAT THE INVASIVE WEEDS, THE DALLAS GRASS, EVEN BERMUDA, BERMUDA IS ACTUALLY YOUR WORST WEED IN A NATIVE GARDEN.
IT TAKES OVER AND IT TAKES, UH, TIME TO MANAGE IT.
AND SO EVEN WHEN WE DID, AND I THINK I USED THIS ANOTHER EXAMPLE, WHEN WE BUILT THE HERITAGE TRAIL OVER
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THERE BETWEEN THE MUSEUM AND THE RAILROAD TRACK ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANTED IN ALL NATIVE GRASSES, UM, IT WAS PLANTED TWO OR THREE TIMES IN ORDER TO GET IT TO ESTABLISH.AND IT, AND PORT MR. BRIAN BRADFORD RECEIVED COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT AND HE FINALLY JUST SAID, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST RIP IT OUT AND REPLACE IT WITH BER TIRE OF THE CALLS? SO I JUST WANNA MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT THAT'S PART OF IT AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WILLING TO TOLERATE AND WEATHER AND THAT'S A, THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
I JUST HAD TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AND REVIEW.
AND I'VE ALREADY DONE SOME RESEARCH.
THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IT THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, STAY OPEN-MINDED WITH AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND TRY TO TRY TO DO IT RIGHT.
I THINK WE GOT SOME SMART COOKIES.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT.
SO EVEN IF WE JUST DO A, A 12 MONTH PILOT PROGRAM, SEE HOW IT WORKS.
IF WE DECIDE THAT IT JUST, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.
IT IS WILD AND CRAZY, THEN WE, WE CUT IT AND WE'RE DONE.
THE, THE KEY ON THE FRONT END IS GETTING IT CERTIFIED CORRECTLY WITH, WITH PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IN, IN THIS ONE CASE, I WAS THE ONLY ONE ON STAFF THAT HAD ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WITH IT.
I, I CAN'T REVIEW ONE EVERY WEEK.
AND, AND WHAT WE DID IS EXACTLY, THEY, THEY MET THE CRITERIA LETTER FOR LETTER BY THE ORDINANCE.
SO WE'VE HAD TO APPROVE IT, UM, THROUGH THAT OR GET RID OF THE ORDINANCE.
AND SO THE OTHER KEY IS THE MANAGEMENT PLAN.
ONCE IT'S CERTIFIED TO INCLUDE THESE BITS OF PLANT MATERIAL, THEY'RE ON THE HOOK TO MAINTAIN IT THAT WAY.
AND WE REQUIRED A BUFFER AROUND IT.
THEY, THEY COULDN'T LET THE PARKWAY GET OUTTA CONTROL AND THEY COULDN'T LET THE SITE TRIANGLES GET OUTTA CONTROL OR THE, THEY'RE ON A CORNER LOT.
NOW GRANTED, THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT BECAUSE IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE 2022 GOOGLE STREET VIEW, PREVIOUS OWNER HAD AN ABSOLUTELY IMMACULATE GOLF COURSE LOOKING YARD.
THE NEW BUYER HAD NATIVE, SO, BUT THEY DID A GOOD JOB.
IT LOOKS NICE IF YOU'RE INTO THAT THING.
I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY ALL THE TIME.
I THINK WE ARE IN THE AGE OF VERY VOCAL
SO, UM, I, I'M FINE WITH, WE'LL JUST PUT MY PHONE NUMBER ON THE COMPLAIN MEAN IF I CAN HANDLE IT.
I FEEL LIKE SHE GOT THE COMPLAINTS AND NO GETTING THE, UM, GETTING
I, I WANNA ON RECORD COMMEND THE, UM, THE SEED LIBRARY.
SO THIS WAS ALL, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR TIM IS LEADING THAT AND SHE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.
I DON'T HAVE A GREEN THUMB, BUT I WAS ABLE TO GROW THE PLANTS THAT SHE GAVE ME.
SO I'M HOPING THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
I'M A, I'M A BIG FAN OF UM, PROVIDING WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF ALWAYS NEEDING SOMEONE ELSE TO SUSTAIN THEM.
SO, UM, BUT THE WORLD'S IS A CRAZY PLACE.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
ALRIGHT, SO SCOTT, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS AT OUR NEXT CSD MEETING.
AND SCOTT, THE LAST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS TO ADJOURN.
SO AT 12 0 3, 2 HOURS LATER, YOU GUYS ARE DONE.