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PLANNING DIRECTOR TEXT SCOTT ROBERTS.WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 24TH MEETING OF THE GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION.
IS THIS OUR CUSTOM WE COMMISSION START A MEETING WITH PRAYER AND PLEDGE? YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US, WHETHER THEY DO OR NOT.
FACTS OF DECISIONS OF THIS COMMISSION OR YOUR RIGHTS IN FRONT OF THEM.
TONIGHT'S, UH, PRAYER AND PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY COMMISSIONER HILLIARD, EVERYBODY HERE.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO SERVE THE CITY OF GARLAND, THE STATE OF TEXAS, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE WORLD.
LORD, WE ASK YOU THAT WHAT WE DO HERE TONIGHT IS THE GROUNDWORK, THE WAY MEETINGS SHOULD BE HELD AS WELL AS PEOPLE TRYING TO SERVE.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR WHATEVER WE DO HERE IT IS ALL IN YOUR NAME.
WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE WHO ATTENDED, THOSE WHO THOUGHT ABOUT ATTENDING.
WE THINK OF ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYBODY THAT'S, THAT HAS THE INPUT TO MAKE THIS CITY A BETTER PLACE TO BE.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THESE THINGS.
THE COMMISSIONERS TURN TO FACE THE FLAG LIKE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG UNDER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH OF STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR TEXT PLAN COMMISSION.
AUGUST 24TH, 2026, THE GARLAND LOGO IS ON THE WALL.
WELL, GOOD EVENING AND, AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING.
I SEE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT AND STARTING TO GET SOME CARDS IN.
SO IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT, IF YOU PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THESE YELLOW SPEAKER CARDS OR IN THE BACK OF THE, ON THE TABLE OUT THERE OR OUT, UP FRONT HERE, AND HAND 'EM TO THE PLAN COMMISSION SECRETARY.
THEN WE CAN CALL YOU TO SPEAK AND ADDRESS THIS WHEN YOU DO.
WE'VE GOT SOME MICROPHONES UP THERE.
IF YOU'LL PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS INTO THE MICROPHONE.
WE DO NEED THAT FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORDS.
APPLICANTS WILL BE GIVEN 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
OTHER SPEAKERS, WE ALLOW THREE MINUTES, BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, WE DO ALLOW MORE TIME.
AND AFTER EVERYBODY'S GIVEN A TESTIMONY, IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO COME BACK UP AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE ITEMS BROUGHT UP, WE ALLOW 'EM TO DO THAT.
AND AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL JUMP IN TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH ITEM ONE A.
CONSIDER THE AUGUST 10TH, 2026.
PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES TEXT SCOTT ROBERTS, CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH TO APPROVE, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, SEE NO DISCUSSION.
MOTION BY JULIUS JENKINS, SECONDED BY BOB DUCKWORTH.
THE VOTE PASSED WITH EIGHT YES.
ZERO NO AND ONE ABSTENTION, AND IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITHOUT ONE ABSTENTION.
NEXT ITEM IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
ITEM TWO A, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF SIGN CRAFTERS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE TO CHAPTER FOUR, ARTICLE FIVE OF THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING SIGN AREA FOR AN ATTACHED WALL SIGN.
THE SITE IS LOCATED THE 8 25 WEST OF BEL.
GOOD EVENING, SCOTT ROBERTS SITS AT THE DESK CITY PLANNER.
KALIN STANDS AT A PODIUM WITH A LAPTOP WHILE AUDIENCE MEMBERS SIT BEHIND.
I'M THE PLANNER WITH THE CITY.
UH, AS MENTIONED, UH, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED SIGN VARIANCE, UH, FOR A, UH, LARGER WALL, UH, WALL SIGN, UH, THAN WHAT'S PERMITTED BY THE GD KALIN TYPES ON THE LAPTOP OF THE PODIUM.
TEXT CASE INFORMATION, UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED 8 25 WEST INTERVAL.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS SIGN CRAFTERS AND THE AREA OF THE PROPERTIES ABOUT 3.52 ACRES AND ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR MIXED USERS.
UH, IT'S PRETTY MUCH SURROUNDED BY, UM, COMMERCIAL AND MIXED ORIENTED USERS.
AND THESE ARE SOME SITE PICTURES.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS UNDER RENOVATION RIGHT NOW.
UH, IT'S GOING TO, UH, IT'S GONNA BE OCCUPIED BY, UH, CRUNCH FITNESS, UH, STUDIO TEXT SITE PHOTOS, 825 WEST INTERVAL ROAD.
EIGHT IMAGES SHOW THE SITE TEXT SV REQUEST DETAILS.
GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR SIGN VARIANCE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD AND NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.
AND RIGHT NOW IT CONTAINS A, A SINGLE TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING PROPOSED, UH, SECTION 4.81 OF GDC GIVES PLANNING COMMISSION THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE VARIANCES AND, UH, TO APPROVE A SIGN VARIANCE WHEN STRICT COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE WOULD RESULT IN HARDSHIP OR INEQUITY TO THE APPLICANT.
SO APPROVAL OF SIGN VARIANCE REQUIRES THREE QUARTERS VOTE OF PLAN COMMISSION
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MEMBERS PRESENT AND, UH, PRESENT AND VOTING.AND THE SECTION 4.81, UH, AGAIN, ALLOWS THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE AND INCREASE UP TO 25% OF A MAXIMUM PERMITTED SIGN AREA.
SO THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN ILLUMINATED ATTACHED WALL SIGN CONSISTING OF THE CRUNCH LOGO AND THE TERM FITNESS, UH, CHANNEL LETTERS.
THE, THE CODE GENERALLY ALLOWS ONE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGNAGE PER LINEAR PHOTO OF FALL ON WHICH THE SIGN IS MOUNTAIN, BUT, UH, ESTABLISHES, UH, AN OVERALL MAXIMUM A HUNDRED SQUARE, UH, A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF SIGN, UH, WALL, WALL SIGN.
UH, BUT HERE IN THE EXHIBIT, SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, IT ON THE NORTHWEST NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE WALL, UH, THAT AT THE CENTER.
AND HERE IS THE, UH, DETAILED, UH, EXHIBIT OF THE SIGN.
THE EXHIBIT SHOWS TEXT, TEXT EXHIBITS FOLLOWED BY AN AERIAL SITE MAP AND A BUILDING ELEVATION DRAWING, SORRY.
SO, AND THE NORTHEAST FACADE, UH, IS APPROXIMATELY 180 4 0.57 LINEAL FEET.
SO ALTHOUGH THE FACADE ITSELF IS RELATIVELY LARGE, THE GDC ESTABLISHES AN OVERALL MAXIMUM SIGN AREA OF A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE CRUNCH FITNESS.
UH, THE CRUNCH LOGO IS APPROXIMATELY 80 SQUARE FEET, AND THE FITNESS LETTERS ARE APPROXIMATELY 44.1 INCH SQUARE FEET.
THE PROPOSED SIGN AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 1 24 TEXT NORTHEAST ELEVATION WALL SIGN TO TAIL.
THEREFORE, DESPITE THE APPROXIMATE, DESPITE THE, THE VARIANCE TABLE SHOWS SIGN MEASUREMENTS, 180 FOOT FACADE, THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED SIGN AREA IS A HUNDRED.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 1 24 0.7 TEXT SIGN AREA LIMITS PERFECT, WHICH IS 24.75 INCREASE, WHICH IS WELL WITHIN 25% MAXIMUM VARIANCE AUTHORITY.
UH, STAMP FINDS THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN HARDSHIP CONCERNING THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIGN BECAUSE THE NORTHEAST FACADE IS AT APPROXIMATELY 1 9, 180 5 SQUARE FEET FROM THE NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.
AND EXISTING MATURE TREES REDUCE VISIBLE VISIBILITY FROM THE ROAD.
UH, YOU CAN FIND THAT, UM, LIKE THE SECOND PICTURE ON, UH, ON IN THE SECOND ROW.
UH, AND THERE IS LIKE THE, UH, HUGE PARKING LOT WITHIN THAT 9 1 180 5 TEXT STAFF FINDINGS.
AND THE PROPOSED SIGN REMAINS PROPORTIONATE TO THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING FACADE TEXT RESPONSE LETTERS.
UM, THE STAFF, UH, WE HAVE MAILED ABOUT LIKE 94, UH, NOTICES TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE RECEIVED TWO AGAINST THE REQUEST, BUT THEY HAVEN'T MENTIONED ANY REASONS.
UH, THIS, I'M OPEN TO QUESTION.
ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER DALTON? THANK YOU.
THE REQUEST FOR VARIANCE IS ONLY FOR THE NORTHWEST HIGHWAY SIDE OF THE BUILDING, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO THE CENTERVILLE ROADSIDE, THERE'S NO PROBLEMS THERE.
COMMISSIONER ABEL, THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
THIS MAY BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS ON YOUR PICTURES, THERE'S CREPE BURDENS FLANKING EACH SIDE.
ARE THEY PLANNING TO TAKE THAT CREPE MYRTLE ON THE RIGHT DOWN? IS THAT, OR IS IT GONNA BE BEHIND THAT? IT'S GONNA BE BEHIND THAT.
UH, ACTUALLY INITIALLY THE APPLICANT PROPOSED IT ON THE WEST CORNER OF THE BUILDING WHERE THERE ARE LIKE MORE DENSITY OF, YOU CAN FIND MORE DENSE OF TREES ON THAT SIDE.
BUT WE KIND OF RECOMMENDED HIM TO CHANGE THE LOCATION.
THAT'S A RESULT THAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW ON THE, ON HIS EXHIBIT.
LIKE HE CHANGED IT TO CENTER OF THE BUILDING, LIKE, WHICH IS, IT LOOKS LIKE MUCH BETTER LOCATION THAN WHAT IT WAS.
IT, IT DOES LOOK LIKE A BETTER LOCATION, BUT YEAH, BUT MY, IT'S GOING TO BE BEHIND THE TREE.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, DOES 24 SQUARE FEET AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHENEVER HALF OF THAT IS BEHIND THAT, THAT MAY BE, I THINK THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO TRIM THE TREE SOME TEXT.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS, MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE MANY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, UM, EARLIER.
UM, JUST TO AFFIRM, UM, THIS, UH, REQUEST IS NOT OUT OF LINE FOR THE, THE CHARACTER OF THE, UM, RECENT APPROVALS REGARDING SIGN VARIATIONS.
AND EVEN, I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T ASK, BUT EVEN AS WE WERE CONTEMPLATING THE, THE CHASE FURTHER DOWN ON CENTERVILLE, WHICH ALSO REQUESTED A VARIANCE, WE'RE
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STILL IN LINE WITH, WITH THOSE REQUESTS, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING.THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALRIGHTYY.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, JUST AS NOTE WILL REMIND YOU, THIS REQUIRES A THREE-FOURTHS VOTE ORDER TO THE PASS WITH NINE OF US HERE.
THAT'LL MEAN A VOTE OF SEVEN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKERS.
I'VE GOT THE APPLICANT'S CARD HERE.
JAY MOON, DO YOU CARE TO ADDRESS THIS AT ALL OR IF YOU WANT TO COME ON DOWN OR NOT? EITHER WAY, SCOTT ROBERTS LOOKS DOWN AT THE DOCUMENTS ON THE DESK OR MAYBE JUST QUESTIONS.
UM, I'M THE APPLICANT WITH SIGN CRAFTERS.
HE DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING AND JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED, UM, THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT, VACANT FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND THE TREES HAVE OVERGROWN.
SO, UM, WE GOT TOGETHER AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TREES ARE NOT REMOVABLE, BUT ABSOLUTELY THEY WILL BE TRIMMED DOWN, UM, APPROPRIATELY SO THAT THE SIGN IS VISIBLE TO THE STREET, WHICH IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL.
RIGHT? OTHER THAN THAT, UM, PRETTY MUCH ADDRESSED EVERYTHING.
I MEAN, FROM THE BUILDING TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 180 FEET OF DISTANCE.
THE LETTERS THEMSELVES ARE ABOUT 36 INCHES.
THE LOGOS, UH, JUST ABOVE SEVEN FEET.
AND I THINK, UM, IT LOOKS GREAT ON THE BUILDING ITSELF.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? CHAIRMAN ROBERTS LOOKS TO HIS RIGHT BOARD.
J MOON WITH SIGN, CRAFTERS AND ADDRESS.
OH, UH, 2 7 4 3 LIPSCOMB STREET, FORT WORTH, TEXAS 7 6 1 1 0.
SCOTT ROBERTS HOLDS UP A WHITE ENVELOPE.
I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO SPEAK ON IT? SEEN NONE.
MOTION DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
OKAY, UM, BECAUSE OF THE NEW SYSTEM, YOU'LL HAVE TO HIT THE MOTION BUTTON.
OTHERWISE, UH, SHE CAN'T SET UP A VOTE.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCCI, I GUESS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL BASICALLY AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
THE MOTION IS TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
ANY DISCUSSION? SCOTT ROBERTS IN A SUIT AND RED TYPE RESIDES SEEING NONE PREPARED TO VOTE.
THE WHITE SCREEN DISPLAYS THE GARLAND LOGO, FOLLOWED BY A VOTING RESULTS TABLE SHOWING UNANIMOUS APPROVAL AND PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU SCOTT ROBERTS ADJUST PAPERS ON THE DESK.
ITEM TWO B, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.
CONSIDER THE APPLICATION LONE STAR GREEN HOMES REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 22 DASH 67 TO CHANGE TO BASE ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DISTRICT TO SINGLE FAMILY FIVE SF FIVE DISTRICT TO ALLOW A DWELLING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT AND AMEND CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
AND THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE PD SITE IS LOCATED AT 2020 50 EAST MILLER.
STUART STARRY PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND PLANNER.
STUART STARRY REVIEWS DOCUMENTS ON HIS LAPTOP AT THE PODIUM.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 22 DASH 67 TO CHANGE THE BASE ZONING DESIGNATION FROM SFAS SF FIVE TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT AND AMEND CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT STANDARD.
THE GARLAND MAP SHOWS NUMBERED ZONES WITH A RED STAR MARKING THE REQUEST.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2000 AND 2050 EAST WI MILLER ROAD IS APPROXIMATELY 11 POINT 16 ACRES AND IS LOCATED WITHIN DISTRICT THREE TEXT LOCATION MAP.
HERE'S OUR ZONING MAP, SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS.
IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH IS AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
ZONED SF 10 TO THE EAST IS MARYWOOD RANCH.
AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL STABLE WITH UH, USE WITHIN PD DISTRICT 14 DASH 11 WITH AN SF 10 BASE ZONING TO THE NORTH ACROSS MILLER ROAD IS VACANT COMMERCIAL, UH, COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY AND TO THE WEST ACROSS CENTERVILLE ROAD ARE AN EXISTING FUEL STATION AND A SMALL MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING CONTAINING RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES.
OVERALL, THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TEXT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
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IDENTIFIES PORTIONS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.WHILE THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER DESIGNATION, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD OBJECTIVES BY REDUCING THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY AND CHANGING THE TYPE OF USE CLOSER TO WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED IN A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
WHILE THIS, UH, PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN AN ECONOMIC, UH, ONE OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT, UH, FOCUS AREAS, UH, IT DOES UH, STILL ACHIEVE THE SAME GOAL OF IMPROVING, UH, THE QUALITY OF OF THE AREA WITH EQUALITY.
PRODUCT TEXT SITE PHOTOS, 2020 500 EAST MUELLER ROAD.
HERE WE GOT SOME PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM MILLER ROAD WHILE UH, THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS LOOKING EAST FROM CENTERVILLE.
AS SHOWN THE PROPERTY REMAINS UNDEVELOPED TODAY AND HAS FRONTAGE ALONG BOTH THOROUGHFARES TEXT CONCEPT PLAN.
THE SITE PLAN DISPLAYS A MAP WITH PROPOSED ROAD LAYOUTS.
SO HERE WE GOT THE PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 63 TO 68 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS, INSISTING OF TWO DIFFERENT LOT TYPES.
THE ORANGE LOTS SHOWN ON THE PLAN ARE IDENTIFIED AS TYPE A LOTS WHILE THE PURPLE LOTS ALONG THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ARE TYPE B.
THE PLAN ALSO INCLUDES OPEN SPACE AREAS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND PROPOSED AMENITY LOCATIONS.
ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PROVIDED FROM MILLER ROAD TEXT REFERENCE ELEVATIONS FRONT ELEVATION.
ALRIGHT, HERE WE GOT THE REFERENCE ELEVATIONS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THESE ELEVATIONS ARE CONCEPTUAL AND DEMONSTRATE THE GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER ANTICIPATED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
AS SHOWN, THE PROPOSED HOMES UTILIZE FRONT FACING GARAGES AND WILL PROVIDE XS DESIGN ELEMENTS TO OFFSET THE GARAGE PROMINENCE ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY TEXT PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENTS.
THE APPLICANT'S PD AMENDMENT REQUEST INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS.
SO THE, UH, THE FIRST UH, PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE BASE ZONING.
IT IS CURRENTLY S-F-S-F-A AND THEY'RE PROPOSING SF FIVE.
THEN AS FAR AS DENSITY UNDER THE CURRENT PD, THEY ARE AUTHORIZED FOR 90 DWELLING UNITS, WHICH COMES OUT TO ROUGHLY EIGHT DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
AND NOW THEY'RE PROPOSING A RANGE BETWEEN 63 TO 68, WHICH COMES TO ABOUT SIX UNITS PER ACRE.
THEN FOR THE LOT AREA, CURRENTLY THE PD L ALLOWS FOR 1500 SQUARE FEET LOTS, WHILE OUR TYPICAL SF FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
THEY HAVE, UH, THE TWO DIFFERENT LOTS FOR TYPE A, THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSING A MINIMUM OF 4,100 SQUARE FEET.
AND FOR TYPE B THAT WOULD BE 3,600 SQUARE FEET.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, THE CURRENT PD ALLOWS FOR THE INTERIOR LOTS TO BE 20 FEET WIDE WITH THE CORNER LOTS BEING 30 FEET WIDE.
AND SF FIVE WOULD TYPICALLY ALLOW FOR THOSE INTERIOR LOTS TO BE 55 FEET WIDE, WITH 60 FEET WIDE AT THE CORNERS.
NOW THEY'RE PROPOSING 40 FEET WIDE FOR INTERIOR LOTS AND 50, UH, FEET WIDE FOR CORNER LOTS FOR THE LOT DEPTH.
CURRENTLY THE PD ALLOWS FOR 65 FEET IN DEPTH FOR THE LOTS, AND WHILE OUR SF FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE 90 FEET, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOUR TYPE A LOTS, A HUNDRED, A MINIMUM OF 110 FEET IN DEPTH WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS, ALLOWING THAT TO GO DOWN TO 90 FEET FOR THOSE LOTS, SPECIFICALLY GOING ALONG ELBOWS, KNUCKLES OR CUL-DE-SAC CUL-DE-SACS.
AND THEN FOR TYPE B, IT WOULD BE 90 FEET IN DEPTH ACROSS THE BOARD FOR MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE.
CURRENTLY THE PD DL IS FOR 77% AND OUR SF FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE, UH, 50%.
AND THEY'RE MEETING US SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE AT 65% FOR THE SIDE YARD.
WHEN ADJACENT TO A STREET, UH, CURRENTLY IT WOULD BE 10 FEET A SETBACK, THE SF FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE 15 FEET SETBACK, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT SAME 15 FOOT SETBACK.
THE DIFFERENCE IS GONNA BE, UH, THAT THEY ARE, UH, TRYING TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE KEY CORNER LOT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WOULD, UH, REQUIRE A CORNER LOT TO FOLLOW.
UH, TWO FRONT SETBACKS ESSENTIALLY INSTEAD OF A FRONT AND SIDE TABLE LISTS ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS FOR ARCHITECTURAL RELIEF.
UH, IN THE CURRENT PD, FLAT WALLS MAY NOT EXCEED 30 FEET IN LENGTH.
UH, WELL, OUR SF FIVE STANDARD CURRENTLY WOULD BE COVERAGE AND SETBACK STANDARDS SIMILARLY, BUT INSTEAD
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OF, UH, GOING BY LENGTH, IT WOULD BE AT 20% OF THE FACADE AND THEY ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT TO UP TO 40% OF THE FLAT WALL LENGTH TO BE ALLOWED OR WINDOW AND DOOR COVERAGE.CURRENTLY, THE PD ALLOWS FOR A MINIMUM OF 25% OF FRONT FACADES TO INCLUDE WINDOWS AND DOORS, AND THIS DOES NOT, UH, INCLUDE THE GARAGE DOOR IN THE CALCULATION AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME STANDARD UNDER SF FIVE.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO KEEP THE SAME 25%, BUT INCLUDE THE GARAGE DOORS IN THE CALCULATION AS WELL AS EXCLUDE THE GABLED ROOF AREAS, UH, FROM THE CALCULATION.
SO THAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS THE GARAGE DOORS KIND OF TAKE UP EVEN MORE OF THE CALCULATION.
FOUR DESIGN ELEMENTS ARE TYPICAL REQUIREMENT.
IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME FOR THE CURRENT PD AND THE SFI STANDARD, WHICH IS A MINIMUM OF THREE DESIGN ELEMENTS FROM THE, UH, LIST SHOWN IN THE GDC.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT TO FIVE DESIGN ELEMENTS, AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO EXPAND THE MEN.
THE MENU FOUND IN THE GDC TO INCLUDE, UH, COACH LIGHTS AS WELL AS CARRIAGE STYLE GARAGE DOORS AND ENHANCED DRIVEWAY, UH, FINISHES IT.
UH, TYPICALLY WE WOULD ALL, UH, REQUIRE ALLEYS IN AN SF FIVE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, THE CURRENT PD DOES NOT REQUIRE THEM AND, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO GENERALLY FOLLOW KIND OF THE EXISTING LAYOUT THAT IS ALREADY APPROVED.
AND AS SUCH, UH, THEY'RE, UH, REQUESTING TO NOT PROVIDE ALLEYS.
AND THEN, UM, FOR THE TYPE B LOTS, THOSE ARE GONNA BE BACKING INTO AN EXISTING ALLEY OF THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION.
AND SO THOSE LOTS WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT ALLEY.
AND SINCE THEY WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT ALLEY, THEY'LL JUST HAVE THEIR, UH, TYPICAL 10 F UH, REAR SETBACK, LIKE IF THEY WERE IN A BUDDING A, A STREET TEXT.
AMENITIES CURRENT THREE, PROPOSE TWO FOR GARAGE PLACEMENT.
THE CURRENT PD, UH, REQUIRES A 20 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE STREET AND DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY OFFSET ON THE FRONT.
THAT SA FIVE STANDARD WOULD BE THAT SAME 20 FOOT SETBACK.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD REQUIRE A FIVE FOOT OFFSET FROM THE FRONT FACADE TO CREATE SOME ARTICULATION AND VISUAL INTEREST ON THE, UH, FACADE FACING THE STREET.
THE PROPOSAL IS TO RETAIN THE 20 FOOT SETBACK, UH, HOWEVER, TO RE UH, REDUCE THAT, UH, FIVE FOOT OFFSET TO SIX INCH, UH, EITHER UH, FORWARD OR OR BACKWARD FOR, UH, THOROUGH FIRST SCREENING.
OUR TYPICAL STANDARD AND THE THE ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTED IN THE PD WOULD BE A SIX FOOT TALL MASONRY WALL WITH CANOPY TREES EVERY 50 FEET.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES INSTEAD OF THE MASONRY WALL TO INSTALL A ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS EVERY 50 FEET APART ALONG THE FRONTAGE, AS WELL AS CANOPY TREES BETWEEN THE COLUMNS EVERY 50 FEET APART AS WELL.
CURRENTLY THE PD REQUIRES THREE, UH, AMENITIES AND THOSE ARE, UH, TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL CORDS, GAZEBOS WITH PICNIC TABLES, BICYCLE RACKS AND GRILLS, AS WELL AS A PLAYGROUND.
NOW OUR TYPICAL SF FIVE, UH, DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY AMENITIES AND, UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, A MINIMUM OF TWO AMENITIES.
UH, AND THEY ARE INCREASING THE MENU A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT'S EXISTING TO INCLUDE, UH, PLAYGROUNDS, PLACEBOS, SPORTS COURTS, AND A DOG PARK.
AND, UH, I GUESS THE REASON THAT, UH, WE REQUESTED THAT OR THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THAT IS, UH, SINCE THEY ARE, UH, LOWERING THE SIZE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT, THEY ARE KIND OF REDUCING THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, OPEN SPACE THAT EACH LOT HAS ACCESS TO.
AND SO THEREFORE THEY'RE KIND OF MAKING UP FOR THAT SPACE IN, UH, PUBLIC SHARE, OR NOT PUBLIC, BUT SHARED SPACE TABLE COMPARES GARAGE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
THEN, UH, ENTRY MONUMENTS ARE PERMITTED, UH, BOTH UNDER THE CURRENT PD AND ANY TYPICAL SF FIVE, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED.
AND SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REQUIRE A ENTRY MONUMENT AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
THE TABLE TITLED RECOMMENDATIONS SHOWS APPLICANT PROPOSALS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SIX PLANNING CATEGORIES LIKE AMENITIES.
THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
FOR THE THOROUGH FIRST SCREENING, WE RECOMMEND INCREASING THE TREE PLANTING RATIO TO EVERY 30 FEET.
TABLE COMPARES PROJECT PROPOSALS FROM THE, UH,
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INSTEAD OF THE 50 FEET THAT IS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, AS WELL AS ADDING A CONTINUOUS ROW OF SCREENING SHRUBS, UH, SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE ORNAMENT OR ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCE AREA TO, UH, FOLLOW THE INTENT OF THE CODE AND CREATE A OPAQUE SCREENING, UH, METHOD.AND FOR THE COACH LIGHTS AS A DESIGN ELEMENT, THE APPLICANT PROPOSED ONE COACH LIGHT TO BE COUNTED TOWARDS AS A DESIGN ELEMENT.
UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, UH, IN ORDER TO COUNT AS ONE DESIGN ELEMENT THAT THEY PROVIDE TWO, TO PROVIDE SOME MORE SYMMETRY ALONG THE FACADES OF THE, UH, HOMES FOR THE WINDOW AND DOOR COVERAGE.
UH, THEY PROPOSE A MINIMUM OF 25% OF FRONT FACADES MUST INCLUDE WINDOWS AND DOORS, AND, UH, WE, UH, PROPOSE THAT THAT BE INCREASED TO 55%.
THE REASON FOR SUCH A HIGH INCREASE IS BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE ALSO, UH, REQUESTING TO NOT COUNT THE GABLE, THE WALLS IN THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND SINCE THE, UH, GARAGE DOORS ARE GONNA END UP TAKING QUITE A BIT OF THAT, UH, FRONT FACADE, UH, IT INCREASING IT TO 55%, THEREFORE ENSURES THAT, UM, THEY'LL STILL PROVIDE WINDOWS AND DOORS BEYOND JUST THE GARAGE.
UH, PLACEMENT TEXT RECOMMENDATIONS.
A TABLE COMPARES APPLICANT PROPOSALS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THEY RECOMMENDED OR THEY'RE PROPOSING.
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THE OFFSET BE SIX INCHES EITHER FORWARD OR BACKWARD.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT ONLY BE BACKWARD TO AVOID FURTHER ACCENTUATING THE GARAGE, WHICH WILL ALREADY KIND OF FEATURE VERY STRONGLY IN THE FRONT FACADE OF THE BUILDINGS FOR THE, AND THEN WE ALSO RECOMMEND A ALONG THE THOROUGH FUR, THE FRONTAGE WITH THE THOROUGH FIRM FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ONE BENCH AND ONE TRASH RECEPTACLE FOR EVERY 150 FEET OF FRONTAGE.
UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, UH, THERE WAS A MULTIFAMILY THAT RECENTLY CAME IN NEARBY.
AND THIS BEING, UH, UH, STILL A HIGHER THAN USUAL DENSITY, UH, PROJECT, UH, WE ANTICIPATE MORE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY IN THE AREA.
AND AS SUCH, WE ALSO WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, THAT THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE GONNA BE PROVIDED ALONG MILLER, UH, AND ALONG, UH, CENTERVILLE BE, UH, EIGHT FEET WIDE, UH, INSTEAD OF THE CITY STANDARD, WHICH WOULD BE SIX FEET WIDE.
THEN FOR AMENITIES, UH, THEY PROVIDED THE, THE, UH, MENU AND JUST WERE KIND OF BROAD AND, AND, UH, KIND ALLOWING FOR A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY FOR, UH, THE APPLICANT.
EH, THEY DID INCLUDE SOME STANDARDS FOR THE PLACEBO, SPECIFICALLY THAT IT MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 150 SQUARE FEET AND A MINIMUM OF A SEATING AREA FOR SIX PEOPLE, AS WELL AS INCLUDING A TRASH RECEPTACLE.
AND STAFF WOULD LIKE TO, UH, FURTHER ESTABLISH SOME MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE OPTIONS.
SO FOR THE PLAYGROUND, A MINIMUM AREA OF 1000 SQUARE FEET AND A MINIMUM OF PIECES OF PERMANENT CHILDREN'S PLAY EQUIPMENT BENCHES AT LEAST THREE ORNAMENTAL TREES AND AT LEAST ONE TRASH RECEPTACLE, AS WELL AS A MINIMUM OF TWO BICYCLE WRECKS.
FOR THE PLACEBO, WE WOULD RECOMMEND INCREASING THE SITTING TO A MINIMUM OF EIGHT PEOPLE AND ADDING A MINIMUM OF TWO BICYCLE WRECKS.
FOR THE SPORTS COURT, WE RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING.
A SPORTS COURT SHALL BE FULLY CONSTRUCTED AND EQUIPPED FOR ITS INTENDED RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY, WHICH MAY INCLUDE BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO BASKETBALL, PICKLEBALL, OR A MULTIPURPOSE COURT.
THE COURT SHALL INCLUDE ALL PERMANENT SURFACING, STRIPING AND RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT NECESSARY FOR ITS INTENDED USE, AS WELL AS BENCHES AND AT LEAST ONE TRASH RECEPTACLE AND A MINIMUM OF TWO BICYCLE RACKS.
AND FINALLY, FOR THE DOG PARK, WE WOULD RECOMMEND A MINIMUM AREA OF 3000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH SHALL BE FULLY ENCLOSED BY A FENCE OF A MINIMUM OF FOUR FEET IN HEIGHT.
THE DOG PARK SHALL INCLUDE A DOUBLE GATED ENTRY, A PET WASTE, UH, WASTE STATION, BENCHES, A SHADED SEATING AREA, AND AT LEAST ONE TRASH RECEPTACLE AS WELL AS A MINIMUM OF TWO BICYCLE RACKS.
WE SENT OUT A TOTAL OF 72, UH, NOTIFICATION LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED ONE AGAINST
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WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.ANY QUESTIONS FORMULATING TEXT? SCOTT ROBERTS, CHAIRMAN, NOTHING YET.
THE CHAIRMAN LOOKS TO THE SIDE.
THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO MY EMAILS EARLIER TODAY REGARDING THIS APPLICATION.
I'VE, I'VE GOTTA BE HONEST, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT.
UM, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE.
THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF VARIANCES AND I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, IS IT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE PRIOR PRE PD OR THEY'RE TRYING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS AND BUILD A, AN UPSCALE PRODUCT.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN, YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT.
YEAH, SO I GUESS IT'S REALLY A, A MIX, RIGHT? UH, WE CERTAINLY WANT, UH, SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED, HOWEVER, UH, BECAUSE THEY ARE CHANGING THE USES FROM A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, THE PREFERENCE OF THE CITY WOULD OF COURSE BE FOR OUR STANDARD TO BE MET.
AND NOW UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, DOES NOT PARTICULARLY PADDLE PALATABLE FOR THEM OR FEASIBLE FOR THEM, UH, WE KIND OF HAVE TO MEET THEM SOMEWHERE HALFWAY.
UH, A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR YOU.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
UH, YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE MADE, UH, SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS TO INCREASE THE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE LIGHT POSTING INSTEAD OF ONE SHOULD BE TWO.
UH, MY ONLY, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF AT THIS POINT RELATING TO THE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE THE ADDITION OF NATIVE LANDSCAPE, DROUGHT RESISTANT, DROUGHT TOLERANT, UH, GRASSES AND TREES AND THE LIKE.
UH, JUST THINK THAT WOULD SAVE THEM LONG TERM, SEEING AS HOW THERE'S AN HOA THAT'S GONNA BE IN PLACE.
THEY'RE GONNA WANNA KEEP THEIR COSTS DOWN AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A LANDSCAPING COMPANY DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING LATER ON.
UH, SOMETHING THAT IS NOT INCLUDED RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY, UH, THROW THAT IN AND I THINK THAT'LL BE A GREAT ADDITION.
THE CAN CUTS TO THE CHAIRMAN SEATED AT THE BASE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE CHAIRMAN RESTS HIS HANDS ON THE DESK.
UM, I, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT SOME, FIRST OF ALL, UH, COMMISSIONER JENKINS, VICE-CHAIR JENKINS IS RIGHT THERE WERE A LOT, YOU'RE JUGGLING A LOT OF BALLS IN THIS ONE.
CHAIRMAN REVIEWS THE DOCUMENTS, AND I UNDERSTAND THIS HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO THE APPLICANT, BUT FOR THE APPLICANT AND COMMISSION, I HAD SOME THOUGHTS 'CAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT MORE QUALITY, BETTER VALUE AND ALL OF THAT.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, YEAH, WE'RE GOING LOWER DENSITY, BUT I THINK IT'LL, LOWER DENSITY IS PROBABLY MORE CALLED FOR IN THIS SITE TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THE FRONT FACING GARAGES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A BOTHER TO ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE NOT RECESSED.
I HAD A PROPOSAL OF MAYBE 50% OF THE GARAGES, MAYBE 40% ARE RECESSED FIVE FEET, BUT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.
WE'VE GOT 20 FOOT SETBACKS BY ORDINANCE NOW, BUT IF WE ALLOWED PORCHES OR OTHER PARTS OF THE HOUSE, NOT THE GARAGE TO COME FORWARD TO 15 FEET, THAT WOULD CREATE THE OFFSET, THE ARTICULATION WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO THAT, THAT'S ONE PROPOSAL, THAT'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE ACTUALLY BE RECESSED LIKE THAT.
HE LOOKS DOWN AT PAPERS AND ON THIS I SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT SOME ALLEYS IN, NOT THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION, BUT JUST SOME ALLEYS.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A MIX OF FRONT AND REAR HE GESTURES WITH HIS HANDS, GARAGES, WHICH WOULD GIVE US A MIX ON THE STREET, POSSIBLY FEWER CARS IN THE STREET.
AND AGAIN, HOPEFULLY BRING UP THE VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND AGAIN, THIS COULD BE DONE BY, SINCE THEY, UM, HAVE TO HAVE 20 FEET IN THE BACK TOO FOR THE GARAGE AND ALLEY TAKEN OUT, AGAIN, POSSIBLY PUSHING THE FRONT BUILDING LINE TO 15 FEET, POSSIBLY EVEN 10 FEET OR SOMETHING.
BUT THAT WOULD GIVE SOME ARTICULATION ALONG THE STREET AND, AND A MORE INTERESTING ONE.
AND, UH, I, I AGREE WITH STAFF'S, UH, INFORMATION ON THE WINDOWS AND GABLES, THEY DO THROW CALCULATIONS OFF, SO I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT'S, UH, APPROACH ON THAT.
NOW, THE THOROUGHFARE SCREENING, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO INTEREST AND CREATING SOMETHING NICE, UM, INSTEAD OF FULL MASONRY WALL OR FOLD METAL, MAYBE 50 50, 60 40, SOME MASONRY WALL IN THERE.
SO AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, IT'S PARDON MASONRY PART OPEN.
SO AGAIN, IT LOOKS BETTER COMING ALONG.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT A BENCH, HAVE IT BACK UP TO THE MASONRY.
SO PEOPLE IN THE BACKYARD OUT LOOKING AT WHOEVER'S SITTING IN THE BENCH ALL THE TIME.
ALONG WITH THAT, WITH THE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, THE CHAIRMAN SITS AT THE HEAD OF THE CURVE DESK.
IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEANDER THAT SIDEWALK AT ALL, AND AGAIN, THAT'LL COME TO ENGINEERING AND EVERYTHING, BUT IF YOU CAN MEANDER THE
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SIDEWALK, SOME THAT AGAIN CREATES MORE INTEREST IN HOPEFULLY A BETTER VALUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF, UH, COST, UH, UH, AMENITIES.THE CHAIRMAN NODS AT THE DISCUSSION.
UH, HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD HAVE 'EM ALL IN PLACE BEFORE THE FIRST CO IN A HOUSE, BUT THAT COULD ALSO BE A CONDITION.
AND, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
UH, THE CHAIRMAN MAKES A GREAT POINT RELATING TO THE PARKING.
IS THERE ANY, UM, I, I SEE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CUL-DE-SACS.
ARE THERE ANY OFF STREET PARKING IDENTIFIED BY THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT? UH, THERE IS NOT ANY LIKE SEPARATE, UH, GUEST PARKING, HOWEVER, UH, EACH LOT DOES HAVE THE, UH, THE DRIVEWAY WHERE ONE, UH, GUEST PARKING COULD BE, UH, OBSERVED, I GUESS.
UM, AND FOLLOW UP QUESTION, IT IS TO THE CHARACTER AND OF THE, UH, SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, SEVERAL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES ALONG CENTERVILLE HAVE MASONRY WALLS, I BELIEVE.
UM, I BELIEVE AS YOU COME DOWN, MILLER, WITH THE NEW MULTIFAMILY THAT'S BEEN PUT IN PLACE, THEY DO HAVE, UM, THE OPEN SCREENING CONCEPT, BUT THE MASONRY IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ALONG THE CORRIDOR, SO, SO I COULD TOTALLY SEE A 60 40 OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MORE LEANING TOWARD THE MASONRY, SO THANK YOU.
ONE, IN SINGLE FAMILY, TYPICALLY WE DON'T REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING, SO THAT'S COVERED THERE.
AND IN TERMS OF MASONRY, IF I WERE BUYING A HOUSE AND I HAD A CHOICE OF A LOT WITH A MASONRY WALL OR ONE WITH WR IRON, I THINK I'D GO WITH THE MASONRY FOR THE PRIVACY.
SO THERE'S THAT TOO, IN TERMS OF SALES FORM.
ALL RIGHT, I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
HAVE IT APPLICANT HERE, UH, MR. AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME.
I'LL TALK CHAIRMAN ROBERTS JESTERS WITH HIS HANDS.
CHAIRMAN ROBERTS REVIEWS HIS PAPERS AND YOU'RE PROBABLY, UH, MR. SMITH, RIGHT? AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAMES AND ADDRESSES, PLEASE COMMERS.
MY NAME'S COLTON SMITH WITH SPIERS ENGINEERING REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
UM, ADDRESS IS 7 65 CUSTER ROAD, PLANO, TEXAS 7 5 0 7 5.
AN APPLICANT IN A POLO SHIRT STANDS AT THE PODIUM.
YEAH, SO I'M SHA OV, UH, 4 5 1 6.
BE STREET, ARVIN, TEXAS 7 5 0 6 2.
SO I'LL LET, UH, COLTON START AND THEN I CAN CHIME IN IF THAT MAN TAKES PAPERS FROM THE PODIUM.
UH, WELL THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD QUESTIONS AND THANKS STUART FOR THE, UH, DETAILED PRESENTATION THERE.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
UM, AS YOU HEARD, 90 CURRENTLY ZONED FOR 90 TOWN HOMES, LOOKING TO REDUCE DENSITY, UM, TO A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED PRODUCT THAT WE THINK WILL BE A BENEFIT IN THIS AREA, UM, AS COMPARED TO THOSE TOWN HOMES.
UM, WE PROVIDED FOR AMENITIES AND COMMON AREAS, UM, WITH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST REQUESTING THE DEVIATIONS FROM SF FIVE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT HERE.
UM, SO STEWART WENT OVER SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF, UM, THAT WE HAD RECEIVED THOSE CONDITIONS JUST LAST THURSDAY.
SO SINCE THEN WE'VE MET WITH STAFF AND ACTUALLY WORKED THROUGH SEVERAL OF THOSE.
WE AGREED GENERALLY WITH, WITH MOST OF THAT LIST, BUT HAD A FEW THAT WE WERE STILL TWEAKING WITH THEM AND, AND WORKING WITH THEM, UM, TO COME TO RESOLUTION ON.
UM, AND WE CAN GET INTO THOSE IN DETAIL IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE.
UM, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE TONIGHT IS SOME RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO KEEP WORKSHOPPING THOSE WITH STAFF A LITTLE BIT, UH, PRIOR TO COUNCIL.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO GET TO SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE GIVEN THE SHORT TIMEFRAME WE'VE HAD, HAD THOSE CONDITIONS ON OUR PLATE.
UM, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS A FEW OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ALREADY CAME UP.
UM, AND WE RECEIVED YOUR QUESTIONS EARLIER TODAY, TEXT PLAN COMMISSION.
SO THE RECESSED GARAGES, I THINK WAS THE FIRST ONE.
UM, JUST IN SPEAKING WITH MANY A VARIETY OF BUILDERS, UH, RECESS GARAGES ARE JUST A REAL CHALLENGE TO GET A PRODUCT.
THE SIX INCH RECESSION THAT WE HAVE IN THERE WE'RE FINE WITH STAFF'S PROPOSED CONDITION OF NOT SIX INCHES PROTRUDING, BUT SIX INCHES RECESSED.
FIVE FOOT IS, IS JUST A REAL CHALLENGE, UM, TO OFFSET THAT.
WE'VE ADDED, INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF, UM, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES FROM THREE TO SUB THREE TO FIVE, WHICH, UH, IDEALLY, UM, WOULD OFFSET SOME OF THAT MONOTONY AND GIVE SOME MORE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES IN LIEU OF THAT GARAGE OFFSET.
UM, ALLEYS WILL BE A, A CHALLENGE ON THIS, UM, RECENTLY WITH HOME BUILDERS AND, UH, THEIR BUYERS.
THE THOUGHT IS THAT WITHOUT ALLEYS YOU GET A MUCH HIGHER QUALITY BACKYARD FOR THE HOMEOWNER.
UM, IS REALLY THE, THE MOTIVATION THERE.
UM, A MASON REVERSES, UH, ROD IRON FENCE OR, OR ORNAMENTAL METAL RATHER.
WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH SOME PORTION OF MASONRY, NOT, NOT THE WHOLE WALL.
WE THINK IT PROVIDES SOME INTEREST FROM THE STREET SCAPE IF YOU HAVE A MIXTURE OF BETWEEN COLUMNS, TREES WROUGHT, IRON
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MASONRY, BUT THAT EXACT PERCENTAGE WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT TO LAND ON, UM, MEANDERING THE SIDEWALK.I THINK THAT THAT'S AN EASY ONE.
YEAH, THAT WILL MEANDERING THE SIDEWALK.
UM, AND IS EASY TO DO FOR THIS CASE.
UM, AMENITIES BEFORE, UH, ISSUING COS UH, THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL AND, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, ENTER THAT INTO THE, UH, PD AND ALL STREET PARKING I THINK Y'ALL SPOKE TO, BUT WE'RE RELYING ON THE FOUR SPACES TOO IN THE GARAGE TOO IN THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS PRETTY TYPICAL, UM, FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION HAS.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANTS AT THE PODIUM.
COMMISSIONER JENKINS TEXT TERRY HUARD, DISTRICT THREE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR COMING OUT.
UH, THANK YOU SIR FOR, FOR COMING BACK TO US.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO IDENTIFY FEATURES TO MAKE THIS AN UPSCALE PRODUCT, UH, TO REALLY, UM, IMPROVE, UH, THE NATURE OF THE HOUSING IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, WERE THERE ANY PARTICULAR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT, UM, YOU WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT YOU THOUGHT WOULD BE PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT OR, OR ANY ITEMS OF FLEXIBILITY THAT YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UH, KIND OF GIVE YOU, UH, GIVE YOU SOME, SOME BREATHING ROOM ON, UH, THAT'D BE HELPFUL TO KNOW NOW? YEAH, AS FAR AS ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, WE FOLLOWED THE CITY'S, UH, LISTS IN THE GDC AND ADDED A FEW ADDITIONAL.
I THINK WE HAD ENHANCED DRIVEWAYS, SOME OF THE COACH LIGHTS AND, UM, I BELIEVE STEWART MENTIONED, UH, OTHER ITEMS THERE.
UM, NOTHING IN IN PARTICULAR, JUST A LOT OF VARIETY I THINK IS, IS THE INTENT.
UM, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE MONOTONY WITH ALL OF YOUR FRONTS.
YOU GIVE MORE OPTIONALITY THERE AS TO WHAT CAN, UM, FACE THE STREET.
UH, THE ONE ITEM WE ARE STILL WORKING ON IS THAT DOOR AND WINDOW CALCULATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE GABLES THAT GOT A LITTLE COMPLICATED.
SO I THINK WE WANNA WORK WITH STAFF TO JUST SIMPLIFY THAT CALCULATION DOWN TO A NUMBER SPEAKER REFERS TO A DOCUMENT THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE, THE MAIN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT.
AND, AND THE GARAGE RECESSION THAT I MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO WITH SIX INCHES BEHIND RATHER THAN THE, THE, SORRY.
IT DOES SOUND LIKE YOU'RE, YOU ARE, UH, AMENABLE TO THE IDEA OF THE MAN MEANDERING PATHWAY, MEANDERING SIDE.
I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THE MEANDERING PATHWAY.
THE ONE CHANGE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THERE IS ALONG CENTERVILLE YOU HAVE AN EXISTING SIX FOOT PATH AND JUST, UM, TO THE SOUTH YOU'VE GOT A RETAINING WALL THAT MAKES THAT IT HAS TO BE SIX FEET.
SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY MAINTAINING THAT SIX FOOT RATHER THAN GOING FROM SIX TO EIGHT, AND IT ALWAYS LOOKS BETTER IF YOU HAVE A CONSISTENT WIDTH DESK SIGN SHOW.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND, UM, PRESENTING TO US, UH, TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, WERE THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY? DID YOU REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS? WE DIDN'T REACH OUT, BUT IN DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'VE HAD SUPPORTIVE PHONE CALLS GIVEN THE REDUCTION IN DENSITY AND GOING FROM TOWN HOMES TO DETACHED.
I KNOW WE HAD ONE ENTERED THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION, BUT THEY DIDN'T GIVE ANY COMMENTS ON THEIR FORM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REASONING WAS THERE.
AND IF YOU GET APPROVAL, LIKE WHEN, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE, THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE TO GET STARTED? UH, WE DON'T HAVE A FIRM TIMELINE.
I KNOW, UM, THE APPLICANT'S INTENT IS TO MARKET THIS TO HOME BUILDERS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND, UH, MOVE FORWARD.
UM, THESE INFILL DEALS ARE IN HIGH DEMAND RIGHT NOW, SO I'D IMAGINE IT WOULD GET DEVELOPED FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT A FIRM TIMELINE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I'VE GOT ONE.
UH, WHAT IS THE SIZE RANGE AND SALES PRICE RANGE, DO YOU, DO YOU ANTICIPATE OF THE HOMES? YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE A BUILDER IDENTIFIED YET, SO WE'LL NEED TO HAVE A BUILDER PRIOR TO THAT.
PRESENTER LOOKS DOWN AT PAPERS.
THE ONE ELEVATION YOU SHOWED IS KIND OF PLAIN IN NATURE AND THAT'S WHY WHILE YOU'RE WORKING WITH STAFF, IF YOU CAN, I'D BE WILLING TO INCLUDE A CONDITION OF A 15 FOOT FRONT YARD TO ALLOW YOU TO COME FORWARD A LITTLE BIT WITH THE PORCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AGAIN, TO PROVIDE ARTICULATION.
NOT HAVING A BUILDER, WE WERE TRYING TO PROVIDE SOMETHING GENERAL THAT WAS ACHIEVABLE RATHER THAN YEAH, JUST PRESENT SOMETHING.
THIS WOULD, UH, OPEN THEIR OPTIONS TOO, SO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
OR DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING TOO? OR DID HE GOT IT COVERED? ALRIGHT, GOOD.
I HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS CASE.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? THE CHAIRMAN WAITS AT THE DESK.
THE CHAIRMAN OBSERVES THE COMMISSIONERS.
COMMISSIONER, JENKINS COMMISSIONER SIT NEAR THE GARLAND LOGO SCREEN.
JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION, I SUPPOSE, AND I THINK, CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE THE PERFECT PERSON TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN AND I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO LEAN FORWARD
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HERE TO SPEAK.YEAH, MIKE, AS LOUDLY AS I CAN, I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN IF WE REACHED ANY CERTAINTY REGARDING THE NUMBER.
I KNOW STAFF HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, REGARDING THE SCREENING.
UM, ARE WE SAYING PROPOSING THAT THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION BE LEFT OPEN OR SUBJECT TO STAFF'S APPROVAL? YEAH, THERE, THERE'S PLENTY OF THE WORK OUT WITH STAFF YET AND WE'VE, WE KEEP DUMPING THEM STUFF TO DO.
SO IT WOULD BE COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND METAL FENCING TO BE WORKED OUT BY STAFF AND, AND WOULD A THAT INCLUDE THE COMMISSIONER SEATED AT A CURVED DESK IN THE MUNICIPAL CHAMBER LANDSCAPING THAT IS DROUGHT TOLERANT AND, UH, NATIVE AND, AND THE LIKE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT OR AN OPTION OR A SUGGESTION.
IT CAN BE A REQUIREMENT AND I'D LIKE TO BE FAIR, SINCE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SO OPEN TO GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO, IF THE APPLICANT IS CERTAINLY OKAY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT, UH, INCLUDING THAT ANY, UH, LANDSCAPING OR SCREENING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN PLACE IS, UH, GOING TO BE THERE 20 YEARS FROM NOW.
THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK PRETTY IMPORTANT AT THIS POINT.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A, THERE'S A ON THE TABLE AT THIS POINT IS A YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT HE IS PROPOSING IS, UH, CONDITION AT THE PLANTING BE DROUGHT TOLERANT SO THAT IT LASTS LONGER, IT DOESN'T TAKE AS MUCH WATER, ET CETERA.
I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT WITH STAFF BEFORE COUNSEL AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S WORKABLE WITH THAT.
THAT'S A, IF WE BOTH COME TO A RESOLUTION THAT IT'S REASONABLE, WE'LL LOOK AT IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION? I, I'LL JUST HAVE ONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GO THROUGH IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER.
SO THE DENSITY GETS REDUCED TO SF FIVE AS A BASE ZONING FOR THIS.
AND SO IF WE WERE TO TURN IT DOWN FLAT, IT WOULD GO BACK TO TOWN HOMES AND I THINK IT'D BE A, NEIGHBORS WOULD PROBABLY APPRECIATE IT IF WE SCALED DOWN THE DENSITY.
CHAIRMAN ROBERTS LISTENS TO THE ONGOING DELIBERATIONS.
I, I JUST WANTED TO AGREE WITH YOU.
UM, I AGREE WITH CHANGING THE BASE ZONING BECAUSE IT FITS WHAT'S MORE ON THAT CORNER IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND IF I WAS IN THAT AREA, I WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS EMOTION GOES, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO EVEN BEGIN.
SO I'M, I'M GONNA LET SOMEONE SMARTER THAN ME.
WELL, WHOEVER MAKES IT, I HOPE IT'S EASIER THAN, UH, ONE A COUPLE, MATT, A COUPLE AGO, COUPLE AGO.
I CAN'T MAKE MOTIONS REMEMBER.
SO I THINK FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE CONDITIONS, THE COMMISSION DOES AGREE WITH STEPH RECOMMENDATIONS.
WITH ADDITION SLASH EXCEPTION ON MEANDERING, SIDEWALKS WILL BECOME A CONDITION AN INDIVIDUAL WALKS IN THE BACKGROUND BEHIND A SEATED COMMISSIONERS.
WE, THERE WILL BE A CONDITION ABOUT THE AMENITIES TO BE ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE FINAL BUILDING FINAL SLASH CO IS ISSUED.
UM, DROUGHT RESISTANT LANDSCAPING WILL BE REQUIRED SLASH ENCOURAGED AS PRACTICAL ALONG THE THOROUGHFARE.
WE CAN WORDSMITH THAT ON THE ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST IN THE FRONT.
THERE ARE TWO, UM, FEATURES ON THAT.
ONE IS THE, UH, THE GARAGE WOULD, HOW MUCH WOULD IT BE OFFSET? I THINK THE APPLICANT SAID THEY WERE OKAY TO HAVE THE SIX INCH OFFSET TO BE OFFSET FROM THE FACADE, BUT NOT PROTRUDE FROM THE GARAGE.
THEY AGREED TO THAT, BUT THE CHAIR HAD A, A SUGGESTION THAT WE MAKE SOME OF THEM, I THINK WE LIKE THE 15 FOOT, 20 FOOT STAGGERED, SO THERE WILL BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM IF THE SETBACK WAS, UH, REDUCED SOME.
SO I THAT WILL TAKE SOME WORK.
I WOULDN'T MAKE IT MANDATORY WHERE EVERYONE'S LIKE THAT.
UH, BUT WE CAN TRY TO WORK WITH THEM, UH, ON THAT.
AND THAT THE GLAZING, WHICH IS STILL NOT, UH, FIGURED OUT, WHICH THEY HAVE, UM, PROPOSED, THEY HAD PROPOSED 25%, WE RECOMMENDED 55.
UM, THEY SAID THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH IT, SO WE, THE, THE COMMISSION CAN SAY UP TO 55% AS AGREED, UH, BY STAFF IF POSSIBLE.
AND THEN THEY WANTED TO GO BACK TO SIX FEET SIDEWALK.
BUT IT'LL BE MEAN DURING, TO MATCH WHAT'S ON CENTERVILLE, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE FINE.
AND THEN ON THE THOROUGHFARE, UM, IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND ORNAMENTAL METAL FENCING WITH MASONRY COLUMNS AND WITH LANDSCAPING, DROUGHT RESISTANT LANDSCAPING AS PRACTICAL AND THAT PERCENTAGE WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE WORKED UPON.
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ADDITION SLASH EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, AND I THINK THOSE, THOSE ARE WORKABLE BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL.IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION POST PUBLIC HEARING AND BASED ON THE REPRESENTATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY MS. NOR STAFF, UM, MOVE TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE SUBJECT TO EVERYTHING SHE JUST SAID.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO TRY TO, UH,
UH, COMMISSIONER ABEL, YOU'RE THE GARLAND LOGO IS DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN ABOVE THE DAYS.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT CHAIRMAN ROBERTS ADJUSTS HIS GLASSES TURN DOWN AT THE END IS LAUGHING AT US.
THE CHAIRMAN LOOKS DOWN AT HIS NOTES.
THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING TO SF FIVE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT WITH THE PROVISIONS THAT, UH, OH GOSH, I'LL START AT THE BOTTOM THERE.
SIX FOOT MEANDERING SIDEWALK ALONG CENTERVILLE, THE OTHER SIDEWALK BE MEANDERING AMENITIES BE INSTALLED BEFORE C CHAIRMAN ROBERT SITS IN A CHAIR, UH, IS ISSUED FOR THE FIRST HOUSE, UH, DROUGHT RESISTANT, UH, PLANTING AS APPLICABLE.
THERE WAS ONE IN HERE I MISSED.
I CAN'T READ MY OWN HAMMER HANDWRITING.
UH, AND THE OPTION, LET STAFF WORK WITH HIM ON THE OPTION OF REDUCING THE FRONT BUILDING LINE TO 15 FEET TO ACCOMMODATE ARTICULATION AND DESIGNS OF HOMES.
CHAIRMAN ROBERTS LOOKS DOWN AT HIS NOTES FOR THE PURPOSE OF OFFSETTING.
AS, AS RESTATED, I DON'T KNOW IF THE MOTION ENC ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING THAT MS. NOR INCLUDED, BUT I, I THINK WE'RE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THERE.
DID I MISS ANYTHING ADDITIONAL APPROVAL? THE COMBINATION, THE COMBINATION OF MASONRY AND METAL FENCING.
AND, AND, UH, THE EXTERIOR WALL WILL, YEAH.
I THOUGHT IT, IT'S MY NOTES RIGHT HERE.
AND, AND, AND GLAZING 25% VERSUS 55 OR 55 VERSUS A 25.
HOW DID YOU HAVE THAT FIVE IS WHAT STAFF SUGGESTED AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH US AND THEY'RE BE CON THEY'RE GONNA CONDITIONALLY WORK THROUGH IT TOWARDS UNDER THE KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THESE ITEMS WILL BE WORKED WITH THE STAFF AND THEN CONSUL GETS TO TRY TO PUT A MOTION TOGETHER WHENEVER THEY MEET.
COMMISSIONERS SIT AT THE DAY WHILE SCOTT ROBERTS LEADS.
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND IT? DO I NEED TO REPEAT IT? GOOD.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JENKINS, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ABEL, THE MOTION AS RECORDED BY THE TV AND AUGMENTED ZERO.
TEXT VOTING RESULTS FOR THE MOTION BY JULIUS JENKINS AND SECONDED BY PATRICK ABELL SHOWING NINE YES.
AND, AND GOOD LUCK, UH, FI FINDING A GOOD BILL TO COME IN THERE FOR US.
THE CHAIRMAN READ IS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
CONSIDER THE APPLICATION OF ZONE DEV REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH A BASE ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY FIVE TO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 47, 12 47 18, 48 0 2, AND 49 0 2 BOB TOWN ROAD ON PROPERTIES ZONE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, AND SF 10, DISTRICT MAN AND SUIT SITS AT A CURVE DESK AND IT JUST REPEATS THE ADDRESSES.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF A PROPERTY, UH, FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FROM SINGLE FAMILY FOR SINGLE FAMILY, UM, DETACHED DEVELOPMENT WITH ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS ON PROPERTY ZONED AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND SINGLE FAMILY 10 DISTRICT.
THE MAP SHOWS ZONES ONE TO EIGHT TEXT CASE INFORMATION.
HE IS, UH, THE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 4 7 1 2 4 7 1 8 4 8 0 2, AND 4 9 0 2.
THE ENTIRE SITE IS ABOUT 14.68 ACRES AND THIS SITE OR PART OF THIS SITE CAME BEFORE YOU ALL EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UM, AND IT WAS A REDUCED ACREAGE OF ABOUT NINE ACRES.
UM, AND ABOUT 84 LOTS THEY'VE, UM, IN, THEY'VE ADDED TWO MORE LOTS.
SO IT'S NOW TOTAL OF FOUR TRACKS.
SO IT'S A, IT'S 14.6 ACRES, UM, AND 77 LOTS.
SO THEY'VE DECREASED THE DENSITY ON THIS ONE.
AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWING THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS SITE AS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CURRENTLY FOUND THROUGHOUT GARLAND AND PROVIDE AREAS FOR LOWDEN FOR
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LOW TO MODERATE DENSITY, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.UH, TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO ACCOMMODATE CONVENIENCE, RETAIL OFFICE SPACE AND PUBLIC SERVICES.
NON-RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ARE COMPATIBLE AND ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND SCALE WITH ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
NON-RESIDENTIAL USES ARE TYPICAL, ARE TYPICALLY LOCATED, UH, IN THE INTERSECTION OF LOCAL STREETS OR AT LOCAL AND SECONDARY ARTERIAL STREETS.
NON-RESIDENTIAL USES ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY SERVE AND INCLUDE MINIMAL ONSITE PARKING.
THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT TYPE IS PRIMARILY, UH, CHARACTERIZED AS LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED BETWEEN ONE AND SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 5.4 UNITS PER ACRE.
SO THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE FROM BOB TOWN ROAD, AND THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE FROM HIGH DRIVE ON THE EAST.
AND UM, ON THE NORTHEAST TEXT CONCEPT PLAN, THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN.
IT SHOWS, UH, TWO ACCESS POINTS FROM BOB TOWN ROAD AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING A PLAYGROUND WITH A SHADE STRUCTURE ON THE, UM, NORTH ENTRANCE.
AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A BOCCE BALL COURT ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE, UM, OR A COMPARABLE, UM, AMENITY FEATURE, TEXT MODIFICATION REQUESTS TABLE WITH COLUMNS.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A PD.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE PD IS TO REQUEST CERTAIN DEVIATIONS FROM THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UH, THE SF FIVE ZONING DISTRICT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE 50% MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A 60% MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE TO HAVE A GREATER COVERAGE OF THE LOT FOR THE LOT WIDTH.
UH, THE GDC REQUIRES 55 FOOT LOT WIDTH AND 60 FOOT, UM, WIDE CORNER LOTS.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING FOR 45 FOOT, UM, WIDE LOT AND 55 FOOT WIDE CORNER LOTS.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE HOMES INTO THE SITE, BUT IT'S STILL, THEY'RE STILL KEEPING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE THE GARAGE DOORS.
THE GDC REQUIRES THAT THE GARAGE DOOR MUST BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF FIVE FEET BEHIND THE FRONT BUILDING FACADE.
UM, AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT A MINIMUM OF 75% OF RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES SHALL HAVE A GARAGE DOOR RECESSED BACKWARDS, A MINIMUM OF SIX INCHES FROM THE BUILDING FACADE.
THE REMAINDER OF THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES WILL HAVE A GARAGE DOOR THAT ALIGNS WITH THE FRONT FACADE, UH, TO KIND OF OFFSET.
UM, FOR THIS, BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE GDC WHEN THEY, WHEN WE HAVE THAT, UM, FIVE FOOT REQUIREMENT IS TO CREATE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A FLAT FACADE.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED, UM, OTHER ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN ELEMENTS TO THE ACTUAL LAYOUT OF THE SITE AND THE, UM, UM, DESIGN OF THE GARAGE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ALL THE GARAGE DOORS ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A CARRIAGE STYLE GARAGE DOOR TEXT ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS ROW.
SO THE GDC REQUIRES THAT A MINIMUM OF THREE DESIGN ELEMENTS BE, UM, PROVIDED ON EACH HOME THE APPLICANT IN ADDITION TO AND WITH CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS, THE APPLICABLES THE APPLICANT IS, UM, PROPOSING THESE OTHER DESIGN ELEMENTS.
SO THEY ARE MULTIPLE PANE WINDOWS FEATURING EITHER DIVIDED LIGHT OR SIMULATED DIVIDED LIGHT ON THE FRONT FACADE, A MINIMUM EIGHT OVER 12 ROOF PITCH MINIMUM FOUR OVER 12 PITCH OVER PORCHES, A MINIMUM OF TWO COACH LIGHTS ON THE FRONT FACADE, FRONT ENTRY DOOR WITH GLASS OR A MINIMUM OF THREE OF THE FOLLOWING.
DESIGN FEATURES, UH, TEXTURED METAL INLAYS ON DOORS, FLUTED AND V GROOVE DETAILING, UH, WHICH IS BASICALLY CARVING AND VERTICAL LINES OR GEOMETRIC PATTERNS, UH, OVERSIZED POOLS OR ANTIQUE KNOCKERS AND OR GRILLS ON THE DOORS.
UM, THE FIFTH ONE IS SHUTTERS OR AWNINGS OVER THE WINDOWS.
THE SIXTH ONE IS ENHANCED DRIVEWAY FINISHES OF DECORATIVE SAW CUT OR HARDSCAPE MASONRY BORDERS ON THE DRIVEWAYS.
SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS TO WHAT THE GDC UM, HAS FOR OPTIONS.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE ITY IN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND TO ALSO FURTHER PROHIBIT A MONOTONY OF THE, UH, MONOTONY OF THE HOMES COMPARING REQUIRED AND PROPOSED FACADE STANDARDS.
SO THE GDC REQUIRES THAT NO FACADE OF A DWELLING UNIT FACING A PUBLIC STREET OR ANY PORTION OF AN INTERIOR SIDE OR REAR FACADE ABOVE THE FIRST STORY OF A DWELLING UNIT MAY CONTAIN A FLAT UNARTICULATED OR UNINTERRUPTED WALL LENGTH OF GREATER THAN 20% OF THE HORIZONTAL LENGTH OF THE FACADE.
ANY SUCH FACADE SECTION MUST CONTAIN AN OFFSET OF AT LEAST TWO OR MORE UH, FEET.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THAT NO GREATER THAN 40% OF THE FRONT FACADE ABOVE THE, UH, FIRST STORY SHALL HAVE AN UNARTICULATED OR AN UNINTERRUPTED WALL LENGTH.
THE TWO FEET, UH, THE TWO FOOT OFFSET IS NOT REQUIRED ON THE SIDES AND ARREARS.
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SO THAT MEANS THAT MINIMUM OF 60%, UM, ARTICULATION HAS TO BE PROVIDED ON THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOME.AGAIN, THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDING OTHER DESIGN AND ARCHITE AND ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS TO MAKE UP FOR THIS.
THE TABLE DETAILS REQUIREMENTS, WALLS AND WINDOWS, THE WINDOWS AND DOORS MUST COMPRISE.
GDC REQUIRES THAT IT MUST COMPRISE OF AT LEAST 25% OF THE WALL AREA OF THE FRONT BUILDING FACE OF A DWELLING.
THE TABLE STAYS VISIBLE THROUGHOUT THE APPLICANT IS, IS REQUESTING THAT WINDOWS, DOORS, AND GARAGE DOORS.
SO GARAGE DOORS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS REQUIREMENT, UH, TOGETHER.
SO THAT'S INCLUDING THE GABLE.
THE WHOLE FRONT FACADE OF THE BUILDING MUST, UH, BE AT LEAST 30% OF THE TOTAL WALL AREA OF THE FRONT BUILDING, FACE OF THE DWELLING.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO ALLOW, ALLOW A WIDER VARIETY OR ALLOW, UM, A GREATER FACADE TO MAKE UP FOR THE OPENINGS, THE DOORS AND THE WINDOWS OF THE FRONT FACADE.
SO THE GDC REQUIRES FOR ALLEYS TO BE TABLE SHOWS, REQUIREMENTS TO BE PROVIDED FOR DWELLING FACADE STANDARDS, TABLE OR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT NO ALLEYS BE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE AND AMENITY TO DALES.
SO LANDSCAPING, UH, THE GDC REQUIRES THAT TWO LARGE CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED ON ALL LOTS AND AT LEAST ONE MUST BE LOCATED WITHIN THE FRONT YARD.
IN ADDITION TO THIS REQUIREMENT, THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDING LANDSCAPE BEDS AROUND THE BASE OF THE FRONT FACADE OF ALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UM, THAT ARE GONNA BE PROVIDED.
AND THIS WILL ALSO HELP TO PROVIDE INTEREST, UH, TO THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOME.
SO FOR SCREENING, UM, A MINIMUM EIGHT FOOT TALL BRICK OR STONE MASONRY WALL IS REQUIRED WITH LARGE CANOPY TREES PLANTED AT MAXIMUM 50 FOOT CENTERS.
THAT IS WHAT THE GDC REQUIRES, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THEY PROVIDE PERIMETER SCREENING, UM, TO MEET THE MINIMUM TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS ONE LARGE TREE FOR EVERY, UM, EVERY 50 FEET ON CENTER WITH AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN SHRUBS OR, AND ORNAMENTAL GRASSES, UH, PLANTED ALONG THE BUFFER.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO, IS TO PROVIDE A MORE OPEN, UH, FEEL, UM, AND APPEARANCE TO THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, UH, FROM BOB TOWN TEXT SCREENING.
ALSO AN ENTRY FEATURE, WHICH I'LL, I'LL SHOW THE EXHIBIT IN A BIT.
AN ENTRY FEATURE SIMILAR TO THE ENTRY MONUMENT, UH, SIGN, UH, WILL BE PROVIDED.
SO IT'S ALS IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE PROVIDED ON, I DON'T THINK YOU SEE MY CURSOR, BUT IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE, UH, PROVIDED ON THE NORTH PART OF THE FIRST ENTRANCE ON BOB TOWN OR SOUTH OF THE FIRST, UM, DRIVEWAY ON BOBTAIL ARCHITECTURAL AND FACADE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING ROOF PITCH WINDOW SPECIFICATIONS, AND AN ALLEY WAIVER.
THE GDC DOES NOT REQUIRE AMENITIES FOR SINGLE FAMILY, UM, DETACHED SUBDIVISIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PLAYGROUND AND SMALL SHAKE STRUCTURE WITH A TABLE AND CHAIRS IN THE COMMON AREA NEAR THE ENTRANCE, UH, AND A BOCCE BALL COURT OR COMPARABLE AMENITY IN THE SOUTHWESTERN COMMON AREA.
AND THE PURPOSE STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDED ACTUALLY THE, THE APPLICANT ALREADY PROPOSED, UH, ONE OF THE AMENITIES, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDED AN ADDITIONAL, UM, AMENITY BE PROVIDED SO THAT THERE COULD BE, UM, AN AREA FOR THE RESIDENTS TO KIND OF GATHER AND JUST CREATE AN SORT OF ACTIVE SPACES IN THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
SO THESE ARE RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED HOME.
JUST SAMPLE RENDERINGS, ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE DISPLAYED, FOLLOWED BY AN ENTRY MONUMENT SIGN WITH THE TEXTA.
AND THEN THIS IS THE ENTRY MONUMENT SIGN THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER.
AND THESE ARE SAMPLES OF THE CARRIAGE STYLE GARAGE DOOR WITH THE FAUX WINDOWS TEXT RECOMMENDATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL DENSITY AMENITIES, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED BECAUSE IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, WITH THE DENSITY FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, UH, DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, THEY'RE PROVIDING AMENITIES WHICH EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM GDC STANDARDS, AND BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING, UM, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT GO ABOVE OUR GDC STANDARDS, UH, CONSIDERING THE SIZE AND DENSITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ALTHOUGH THIS PROPERTY IS NOT IN AN ECONOMIC FOCUS AREA, UM, WE DID DO A KIND OF A BRIEF ANALYSIS, UH, WITH THE PROPOSED AMENITIES, THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.
IT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, YIELD A HIGHER, UM, A HIGHER QUALITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
TEXT RESPONSE LETTERS, TABLE Z 26 25 STAFF SENT OUT 138 LETTERS, UM, TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400 FEET.
AND WE DID RECEIVE 22 RESPONSES.
21, UM, OF THE RESPONSES, UH, WERE AGAINST AND WERE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
AND THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS RECEIVED THAT WAS OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA,
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TEXT TABLE HEADERS.TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE COMMENTS.
UH, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS ABOUT, UM, NOISE CONSTRUCTION, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY DENSITY AND LOSS OF OPEN SPACE, UM, IN THE LETTERS.
SO WE DO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION HERE WHO CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT.
UH, THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC SCOPE ANALYSIS, UM, AND THEY DID WELL.
THEY WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT, UM, ALL DRIVE-BY INTERSECTIONS, INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE STUDY AREA ARE PROJECTED TO OPERATE AT ACCEPTABLE OVERALL INTERSECTION LEVELS OF SERVICE DURING THE FULL PROJECT BUILD CONDITIONS.
SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, HE'S HERE TO PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT ON THAT.
THERE ARE ALSO COMMENTS ON, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE CAPACITY IF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WAS GONNA BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SEWER AND WATER.
UM, I DID SPEAK WITH OUR ENGINEERING TEAM AND THEY MENTIONED THAT THAT IS SUBMITTED DURING THE SITE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS.
AND EVEN IF IT WASN'T, UM, THE SITE IS NOT, UM, IS NOT ABLE TO MEET THE CAPACITY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S BUILT UP TO, UM, THE CAPACITY STANDARDS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
THE SCREEN HANGS BEHIND THE COMMISSIONERS, I'M SORRY,
WOULD YOU CLARIFY, DO WE HAVE EXISTING TEXT KRISTEN LUCCI CITY SERVICES THERE, OR WILL THEY HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP TO STANDARD? SO IF THEY, DURING THE SITE PERMIT PRESENTER AT THE PODIUM REVIEW, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A CAPACITY ANALYSIS.
TO FIND OUT IF THE EXISTING WATER AND SEWER CONNECTIONS, UM, CAN SUSTAIN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
IF IT CANNOT, THEY WILL HAVE TO BRING THE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE UP TO STANDARDS.
SO BEING THE CITY, NO, THE DEVELOPMENT.
WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT YOU SAID, I LOVE THAT RESPONSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WOULD Y'ALL WANT TO HEAR FROM THE TRANSPORTATION GENTLEMAN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SUBMITTED? IF WE COULD GET THAT INFORMATION? TEXT SCOTT ROBERTS CHAIRMAN, HE CAN'T HIDE.
HE ADJUSTS HIS GLASSES AND HAIR THEN RESTS HIS HAND ON THE DESK.
A PERSON WITH DARK HAIR IN THE FOREGROUND WALKS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT ACROSS THE BOTTOM OF THE FRAME.
SO I, I TAKE IT, THERE'S BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY SUBMITTED AND EVERYTHING.
AND WHAT WERE THE GENERAL CONCLUSIONS IN THAT THEN? THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A MEMO.
THIS DIDN'T WARRANT A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT DIDN'T PRODUCE ENOUGH TRIPS TO DO THAT.
BUT, UH, THERE WAS A, A MEMO THEY DID, THEY CALCULATED THE NUMBER OF TRIPS AND, UM, THE, THE, I THINK THE MAIN FINDING WE FOUND WAS THAT THE, DURING THE PEAK HOUR, IT, IT PRODUCED, I, I BELIEVE, UH, HE SAYS A TABLET ON THE PODIUM.
SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF GUARD HERE.
HE TAPS THE TABLET SCREEN, WHICH DISPLAYS CONTROLS FOR SYSTEM VIEW MODE, AUDIO, VIDEO, LIGHTS, CAMERAS, AND CLIMATE.
SO WE PRODUCED, UH, 76 TRIPS IN THE, IN THE PEAK, THE PM PEAK HOUR.
UM, 47 OF THOSE WOULD BE COMING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S, UM, NOT EVEN ENOUGH TO WARRANT A, UH, A RIGHT TURN INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
ANY THOUGHTS OF, UH, THERE? ONE, UH, STREET COMING IN WILL LINE UP WITH HIGH DRIVE ACROSS BOB 10.
ANY CONSIDERATION OF STOP SIGNS THERE IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S ON A CURVE THERE? FOUR PEOPLE SIT IN THE BACKGROUND ON MAROON CHAIRS.
IT DOES, IT DOES, DOESN'T LINE? UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT LINES UP WITH HIGH DRIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
WITH HIGH DRIVE, WOULD THAT BE, OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO KIND OF CHECK THE TRAFFIC BEFORE, UH, THAT SIGNALIZING IT, BUT PUTTING STOP SIGN.
YEAH, I, I MEAN, I, I ENTER AT THE PODIUM, LOOKS DOWN AT THE DAT.
I WOULD, I I WOULD NOT EVER EXPECT IT TO MEET A SIGNAL WARRANT.
JUST BASED ON THE, THE, THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
BUT SOMETIMES PE PEOPLE, AND I'M CERTAIN I'LL HEAR FROM, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, PEOPLE PROBABLY COME AROUND THAT CORNER PRETTY QUICK SOMETIMES.
SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WORTH CONSIDERING IF IT MOVES FORWARD.
CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS SITS LISTENING TO PROCEEDINGS.
ANY ANY QUESTIONS? CHAIRMAN SCOTT ROBERTS TURNED HIS HEAD LEFT.
I KNOW YOU'D RATHER BE AT HOME.
THAT HE LOOKS DOWN AT THE PAPERS.
WE NOW HAVE, UH, MR. MAXWELL FISHER, THE APPLICANT CHAIRMAN ROBERTS REVIEWS DOCUMENTS ON THE DESK.
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EVENING.MY NAME IS MAXWELL FISHER WITH ZONE DEV 2 5 0 2 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 0.
I'M REPRESENTING SMC DEVELOPMENT AND MI HOMES.
WE HAVE PARTNERED ON THIS DEAL.
MY HOMES WOULD BE THE BUILDER TEXT.
OUR HISTORY, 50 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
MY HOMES IS A, A REPUTABLE COMPANY THEY'VE DEVELOPED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
UM, THEY HAVE SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE DALLAS AREA.
UM, THEY HAVE A SIX TIME BUILDER, UH, SIX TIME BUILDER OF THE YEAR, UH, AWARD WINNER, UH, THE DALLAS BUILDING, UH, ASSOCIATION, TEXT Y AM I QUALITY.
QUITE SIMPLY A BETTER BUILT HOME CARE STAND BY YOUR SIDE.
UM, THEY, UM, THEY ACTUALLY ELEVATE QUALITY.
THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL WHOLE BUILDING STANDARDS.
UH, AND SO THAT INCREASES EFFICIENCY.
IT'S JUST A BETTER BUILT HOME.
AND SO YOUR, YOUR ENERGY COSTS, UH, OR YOUR YOUR COSTS FOR ENERGY ARE, ARE LOWER OVER TIME.
UM, THEY HAVE A COMMITMENT TO SATISFACTION.
UH, THEY ALSO ADHERE TO SAFETY PROTOCOLS AND THEY HAVE A REALLY HIGH CUSTOMER SERVICE RATING OF 4.6 AT OUT A FIVE.
UM, AND THEY ALSO HAVE A CURATED DESIGN, UH, STUDIO ALSO, UH, TO CUSTOMIZE, UH, HOMES.
AGAIN, THEY HAVE HIGH RATINGS FROM THEIR CUSTOMERS, FROM NEW, THE NEW HOMEOWNERS.
THEY ALSO ARE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY GET INVOLVED IN TRASH PICKUP, UH, IN CANCER, UH, DRIVES AND, AND ALSO, UM, FOOD DRIVES OR FEEDING THEM HUNGRY.
SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA, RAPIDLY GROWING AREAS.
SO SALINA, PRINCETON, MESQUITE, PROSPER, AND GRAND PRAIRIE, AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
AS MENTIONED, IT'S 77 LOTS ON 14.6 ACRES IS, IS VERY UNUSUAL THAT A DEVELOPER IS, CAN ACTUALLY, UM, TAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF ACQUIRING ADDITIONAL PROPERTY.
FIRST TIME, IT WAS ONLY, UH, JUST UNDER 10 ACRES.
NOW WE'RE CLOSE TO, UH, 15 ACRES BY ACQUIRING, UH, CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE HOUSING SITE, THE, THE, THE PARCEL TO THE SOUTH.
UM, AND SO THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO INCREASE THE, THE LOT SIZE, DECREASE THE DENSITY.
UM, WE ALSO DECREASED THE NUMBER OF LOTS IN THIS CASE.
WE ALSO HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS OFF, OFF OF BOB TOWN.
UM, THOSE ARE ONE AND TWO STORY FRONT ENTRY PRODUCT THAT RANGE IN FROM 1500 TO 2,900 SQUARE FEET.
UH, NEEDS WOULD BE MARKET RATE, OF COURSE, UH, THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM WITH TWO AND A HALF BATH.
UM, I MENTIONED SOME ONE, SOME TWO STORE.
WE HAVE TWO POCKET PARKS, ONE WITH THE PLAYGROUND AND SHADE STRUCTURE AND, AND BOCCE BALL.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A WELL LANDSCAPE FRONT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, BUFFERING THERE.
THE HOME PHOTO APPEARS ABOVE A LIST OF DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
ALL, ALL UNITS WOULD HAVE A CARRY STYLE HARD HARDWARE, AND EITHER A REEL OR A FAUX WINDOWS IN THE GARAGE.
THEY'RE NOT SHOWN IN THAT PICTURE, BUT WE'VE COMMITTED TO DO THAT IN WRITING.
UM, AS WELL AS A MENU OF DESIGN ITEMS THAT STAFF HAS GONE OVER WITH SOME, WITH THE PREVIOUS REQUESTS AND WITH THIS REQUEST, UH, WITH ENHANCED FRONT ENTRY, UH, DOORS, UH, SHUTTERS AND AWNINGS, ENHANCED DRIVEWAY FINISHES, UH, DIVIDED LIGHT WINDOWS.
WE HAVE REAL PORCHES ON A LOT OF OUR, OUR UNITS.
THERE'S ANOTHER TWO STORY VERSION WITH THE PORCH ON THE LEFT SIDE.
VERY POPULAR, UH, MODEL IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OR ACTUALLY BOTH, BUT THE RIGHT SIDE, IT HAS THE PORCH.
BOTH HAVE PORCHES, BUT, UM, THIS IS, UH, ONE OF OUR LARGER HOMES.
UM, BUT IT'S A GOOD PRICE POINT AND OFFERS THE, THE PORCH.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH OUR FACADE DOESN'T NECESSARILY STICK OUT IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE WITH THE PORCH ON A LOT OF OUR, OUR UNITS, UM, THAT EFFECT IS BASICALLY THERE.
IN FACT, MAYBE EVEN BETTER THAN WHEN WE DON'T HAVE IT.
UM, HERE'S, HERE'S OUR SINGLE STORY OPTION.
YOU CAN SEE THIS, THIS GARAGE IS RECESSED BACK A FEW FEET, BUT IT'S NOT FIVE.
AND SO, UM, WE WOULD HAVE OF COURSE, UH, SOME PROJECTION ON ON THOSE UNITS.
THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE FLUSH.
UM, SO WE WANT THAT FLEXIBILITY, FLEXIBILITY THERE.
BUT A LOT OF OUR UNITS HAVE PORCHES.
A LOT OF 'EM ARE, UM, WHERE WE HAVE THE GARAGE SETBACK SOMEWHAT, UH, FROM THE FACADE.
AND THEN THAT, THAT PICTURE STAFF SHOWS YOU, IT JUST SHOWS YOU THAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO SOME, UH, WINDOWS IN THE GARAGE.
AS MENTIONED, WE DO AN ENTRY FEATURE SIGN.
IT WOULD BE ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED WITH THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT, UM, KIND OF OVER THE TOP TYPE INTER SIGN, RUST SIGN ON STONE BASE W TO BE STANDALONE, PART OF FENCING SCREENING.
HERE'S SOME INTERIORS OF OUR, OUR LIVING ROOM AREA AND KITCHEN IN THE BACKGROUND.
WHAT'S NICE IS THAT THIS, THIS GIVES A NICE FLOW, AN OPEN LAYOUT FROM KITCHEN TO THE LIVING AREA.
JUST BY THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED LIVING ROOM WITH A WHITE SOFA, UH, WITH THE KITCHEN IN THE FRONT AND THEN THE BACK LIVING AREA.
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ENVISION BARLAND FUTURE LAND USE MAP.THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT ADHERE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS WERE LESS THAN SIX UNITS AN ACRE BEFORE WE WERE ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE RANGE, THE COMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO WE ACTUALLY, UM, ALIGN WITH THE COMP PLAN NOW, WHEREAS BEFORE IT WAS, UM, WE WERE AT A HIGHER DENSITY.
SO THE 5.2 OR 5.4 UNITS AN ACRE, UM, UH, FULLY ALIGNED WITH THE COMP PLAN.
UH, WE THINK WE'LL BE DRIVING VALUE WITH NEW HOMES, UM, AND, AND THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE, UH, FOR NEW HOMEOWNERS.
SO WE'D ASK YOU, UM, TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST.
UH, WE THINK IT'S A, IT'S A HIGH QUALITY BUILDER, UH, LARGER SITE WITH LARGER LOTS HOMES, LESS DENSITY, FEWER HOMES, AESTHETICALLY PLEASING HOMES, AND ALIGNS WITH THE COMP PLAN.
AND WE WOULD ASK YOU TO, TO FOLLOW STAFF'S SUPPORT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, TEXT PATRICK AB BE HELLO.
UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, JOINING US HERE TONIGHT.
I GUESS MY MAIN QUESTION IS JUST GONNA BE REGARDING, UH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UM, DEFINITELY, UH, LOOKING BACK AT THE PREVIOUS, UH, PROPOSAL EARLIER THIS YEAR, THIS IS DEFINITELY MUCH MORE DIGESTIBLE.
UM, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESIDENTS NEARBY CONSIDERING THEIR CONCERNS.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY EFFORT FROM YOUR END OR ANY OTHER PARTIES INVOLVED IN THERE TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS? UH, YES.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE CITY'S NOTIFICATION OF THE IMMEDIATE HALO OR DON DONUT AROUND THE PROPERTY, WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO TWO HOAS THAT ARE A LITTLE FARTHER OUT AS WELL.
UM, AND SO, UM, CYPRESS COVE, UM, AND CRYSTAL LAKES, AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME COMMUNICATION THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, UH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENCY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH SOME EXISTING, UM, TRAFFIC LEVELS ON BOB TOWN.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TO GO INTO THOSE DETAILS.
BUT, UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO ADDRESS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, GOING FORWARD.
UM, ON THE FRONTAGE ON BOB DOWN MM-HMM
YOU REQUESTED TO NOT HAVE A PARTITION WALL OF ANY KIND TEXT JULIANA, EXCEPT FOR LANDSCAPING TO BE THE SEPARATION.
WOULD YOU BE AGREEABLE TO PUTTING UP POSSIBLY A ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH BRICK MASONRY COLUMNS EVERY DOWN THAT WAY? I'M, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF A SOLID FENCE WHEN IT COMES TO SEPARATING.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVE IN HAS ON RON ROAD HAS OPEN FENCING, BUT IT IS STILL FENCED.
IT'S STILL DIVIDED FROM THE PUBLIC ROADWAY.
GIVES AT LEAST A, A SEMBLANCE OF SOME SEPARATION THERE.
WOULD YOU BE IN AGREEMENT TO LOOKING AT POSSIBLY AN ORNAMENTAL FENCE ALONG BOB TOWN? YES.
UH, UH, I'LL JUST STATE, UH, I'M GLAD TO HEAR EMMA HOLMES IS INVOLVED IN THIS.
I'M LIFE DIRECTOR DOWN AT THE DALLAS BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, AND THEY DO HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION AND IT DISSUADES SOME OF MY FEARS, CAMERON AND CHAIRMAN ROBERTS, UH, OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO I DO APPRECIATE, AND IT SHOULD BE A GOOD LOOKING NEIGHBORHOOD CHAIRMAN ROBERTS CHECKS PAPERS, UH, IN MY NOTES.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOTTEN A COPY OF THEM.
WOULD A 15 FOOT FRONT YARD, UH, NOT INCLUDING THE GARAGES BE OF BENEFIT TO HELP FACILITATE PUTTING PORCHES ON THE HOUSES? YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UM, THAT'D GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY AND WHERE THE PORCH COULD EXTEND INTO THAT YARD UP TO FIVE FEET, THAT'D BE TERRIFIC.
AND THAT GIVE THE PEOPLE MORE IN THE BACKYARD TOO, AND STILL HAVE A GOOD LOOK IN THE FRONT.
PRESENTER GESTURES TOWARD THE SEATING AREA.
AND, UH, I TAKE IT YOU WOULDN'T BE, UH, UP FOR THE ALLEYS CUTTING THROUGH THOSE TWO PRESENTER TURNS TOWARD THE CHAIRMAN.
AND WOULD YOU YEAH, WE, WE REALLY, WE WEIGHED THE IDEA OF HAVING, OR, UH, I GUESS CONNECTING TO THE EXISTING ALLEYS IN THE COUPLE SECTIONS.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T DO IT.
UH, ONE IS, IS INTRUSIVE TO THE, THE IDIOT NEIGHBORS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE MORE BURDEN ON, THEY'RE SHARING MORE OF THEIR ALLEY, THEIR SAFETY, SECURITY.
THERE'S ALSO DRAINAGE, UM, CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE.
A, THE GRADE IS, IS DIFFERENT TO WHERE IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO GRADE AND POTENTIALLY, UH, SEWER RUN THE SEWER IN A, IN A, IN A WAY THAT IT WOULD GRADE OR DRAIN DRAINED APPROPRIATELY.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, IT'S, IT'S A, A BIGGER BACKYARD IF WE DON'T HAVE AN ALLEY, WHICH CAN BE APPRECIATED.
UM, THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, BUT THOSE ARE THE MAIN ONES.
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YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT MANY MORE FLOOR PLANS ON TOP OF THAT OR, OR, OR STYLES OF HOME.AND, AND THE CODE ALREADY HAS A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT.
IT'S GREAT FOR US ARCHITECTS, WE ALWAYS LIKE DESIGNING NEW CODES,
BUT WE DID, WE DID CONSIDER IT, SO, OKAY.
YEAH, I WAS JUST TALKING THOSE TWO MIDDLE BLOCKS OF STRAIGHT THROUGH ALLEY.
BUT, UH, WITH THEM, I INVOLVED, THEIR DESIGNS WILL BE GOOD AND EVERYTHING, AND THAT'LL HELP MITIGATE ANY, ANY PROBLEM.
AND, UH, TO THE POINT OF THE FENCING, UH, FIRST LET ME ASK, IS THAT POND IN THERE, IS THAT GONNA BE A DRY POND OR A WET POND? DRY POND, MOST OF THE TIME.
WILL IT BE LANDSCAPED IN THERE OR JUST GRASS OR, WE WILL HAVE LANDSCAPING, IN FACT, SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING AND LIKE SHRUBS AND TREES ARE REQUIRED AROUND THE POND ANYWAY, SO IT'LL BE WELL LANDSCAPE FROM THE ROAD.
WELL, I'M THINKING IF YOU GO WITH THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE, I HAD THOUGHT OF MASONRY WALL ALONG THE BACK OF THOSE HOUSES IN THE SIDE OF THAT ONE HOUSE BY THE BOCCE BALL COURT.
BUT, UH, POSSIBLY EVEN A BOARD AND BATTEN FENCE THERE INSTEAD OF REGULAR PICKET FENCE WOULD ADD TO THE AMBIENCE AS YOU'RE DRIVING BY AND LOOKING BETTER.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UPGRADE THINGS A LITTLE BIT.
AND IT'LL WORK FOR THEIR MARKETING TOO.
I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.
I HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKER CARDS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, I SUPPOSE.
UM, TRAFFIC ON BOB TOWN IS, I'M SORRY, MY NAME IS LISA COLLIER.
I LIVE IN THE HILLS OF WESTLAKE ADJACENT SOMEWHAT TO THIS PROPERTY, UH, 45 17.
BOSE WAY IS MY PHYSICAL ADDRESS.
LISA COLLIER STANDS AT THE PODIUM.
TRAFFIC ON BOB TOWN IS A HUGE ISSUE.
THE SUBDIVISION I LIVE IN WAS BUILT IN THE MID EIGHTIES.
WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES ONTO BOB TOWN.
IT IS CURRENTLY TAKING FIVE TO 10 MINUTES TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON ANY GIVEN DAY, ANY GIVEN TIME.
SEVEN MINUTES THIS EVENING TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET HERE.
UM, HAVING AN ENTRANCE INTO A SUBDIVISION ON THE CURVE IS A PROBLEM.
THERE ARE BUS STOPS AT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ACROSS THERE.
UM, THERE ARE CHILDREN RUNNING AROUND, I BELIEVE THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS THERE RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO BE, IF THEY'RE GONNA BE A BIG HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THERE.
LISA COLLIER STANDS AT THE PODIUM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET.
THE HOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BOB TOWN DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF RETAINING OR FENCING.
ROWS OF MAROON CHAIRS FILL THE MEETING HOLE.
IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A FIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET.
IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR, THEY STILL HAVE THE AGRICULTURAL, A MAN SITS BEHIND A SPEAKER, UH, ZONING AND THEY HAVE FARM ANIMALS AND THEY, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF CRAZY, BUT
LISA COLLIER GESTURES, BUT IT'S, THE TRAFFIC IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
THREE MEN ARE SEATED BEHIND A SPEAKER.
THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, WHAT, 150 PLUS VEHICLES TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT OF BOB TOWN.
LISA COLLIER GESTURES TO THE COMMISSION TWICE A DAY AT LEAST.
SO, I MEAN, TRAFFIC REALLY IS A PROBLEM.
SAFETY WITH ALL THOSE APARTMENTS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS HAVING A PLAYGROUND RIGHT THERE ON BOB TOWN, EVEN IF IT'S BEHIND A FENCE.
THEY GOT PEOPLE ALONG BOB TOWN REPLACING THEIR FENCES REGULARLY BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING RUN INTO.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN.
EVERYBODY FROM SUNNYVALE AND 80 TRYING TO GET OVER TO GEORGE BUSH IS UP AND DOWN BOB TOWN.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULDN'T WARRANT A TRAFFIC.
LISA COLLIER CONSULTS HER NOTES ON THE PODIUM SURVEY.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
I KNOW THE TWO RELATIVELY NEW STOP SIGNS THAT HAVE GONE IN HAVE LEASE RESTS ON PODIUM, MODULATED SOMEWHAT THE TRAFFIC, BUT THERE ARE SOME TIMES IN THE EVENINGS THE TRAFFIC IS SO BACKED UP THAT YOU CAN WAIT TWO OR THREE, I'M SORRY, TWO OR THREE CYCLES TO GET THROUGH MM-HMM
SO IT'S JUST LISA COLLIER LEANS IN.
IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A GOOD FIT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, CHAIRMAN ROBERTS FACE FORWARD? I I JUST HAVE ONE.
I USED TO RIDE THAT ROAD A LOT, UH, BEFORE COVID, OUR TRIATHLON TEAM RODE OUT OF, UH, WINDSURF BAY AND WE'D GO DOWN THERE TO SUNNYVALE AND STUFF.
SO IF YOU SAW BIKES, THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN ME TOO.
UH, I KNOW THAT ROAD WAS IMPROVED DOWN TO A CERTAIN POINT WHEN THE SUBDIVISION ACROSS THE STREET WENT IN.
IS THAT FULLY DEVELOPED ROAD GO DOWN BEYOND THIS NEW SUBDIVISION?
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NO, THERE IS A TURNING LANE, WHICH IS USED AS A PASSING LANE ON A REGULAR BASIS, WHICH IS ANOTHER SAFETY ISSUE.PEOPLE TURNING INTO THE, I THINK IT'S A DR. HORTON ON THE, THE, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? THE EAST SIDE OF BOB TOWN.
UM, THOSE TWO NEWER DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY PUT IN THE, THE STREETLIGHTS.
WE HAD NOTICED AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC TOO, EVEN BEFORE THEN.
AND THAT WAS ALL, THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAD AS MUCH AS ALL THOSE PEOPLE COMING.
AND THERE'S BEEN NO REAL IMPROVEMENT TO BOB TOWN SINCE THE TORNADO BACK IN WHAT, 2015, 16, ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO.
SO, AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY PLANS FOR ANYTHING TO HAPPEN ON BOB TOWN IN THE NEAR
I, I JUST REMEMBER THE FUTURE.
SO IT WAS SO FAR DOWN, WHICH WAS NICE.
'CAUSE PAVEMENT GOT SMOOTHER FOR THE BIKE.
BUT I MEAN, YOU, I MEAN, THEN YOU'RE VERY AWARE OF THE, THE CULVERTS ON EITHER SIDE AND IT'S VERY UNEVEN AND THEY'RE NO CURVED.
THE STREET IS NOT CURVED AT ALL.
SO, I MEAN, THERE'RE JUST LOTS OF ISSUES.
IT, IT FLOODS REGULARLY WHEN WE GET THE HEAVY RAINS.
I MEAN, IT RECEDES QUICKLY, BUT IT DOES FILL UP QUICKLY.
SO LOTS AND LOTS OF SAFETY AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
WOULD THEY HAVE TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN ALONG BOB TOWN THERE OR WOULD THAT BE IN ABEYANCE UNTIL, UH, THAT SIDE GETS IMPROVED? CHAIRMAN LOOKS DOWN AT PAPERS.
SO THERE'S AN EXISTING FOUR FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK AND FOR THE AREAS THAT ARE NOT THERE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK TO CONNECT TO IT.
WE MAY WANNA LOOK AT A MEANDERING SIDEWALK THERE TOO.
YOU LIKE MEANDERING SIDEWALKS, HUH? ALL RIGHTY.
UM, GEORGIA IS, SORRY IT'S NOT HANDWRITING.
WELL, I'M, I'M BAD ON HANDWRITING AND, AND NAMES AS I TELL FOLKS I'VE GOT A MASTER'S IN MISPRONOUNCING.
HELLO, I'M GEORGIA RAY AND WE LIVE AT 45 0 1 LAKEWAY DRIVE.
WE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT 0.2 MILES FROM WHERE THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA BE 0.2 TO 0.3, WHERE THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
WE'VE LIVED, UM, IN OUR HOME FOR ABOUT 28 YEARS.
WE'VE RAISED OUR FIVE CHILDREN THERE.
UM, AND GEORGIA RAY STANDS AT THE PODIUM.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA REITERATE WHAT LISA SAID.
DITTO TO EVERYTHING THAT SHE SAID.
IT IS A SAFETY HAZARD THERE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE, UM, SUBDIVISION WHERE ON OUR SIDE THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES, LIKE LISA INDICATED, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO PULL OUT INTO THE TURN LANE JUST SO YOU CAN GET OUT AND GET INTO THE TRAFFIC.
AND THOSE ARE SUPPOSED TO ONLY BE TURN LANES, NOT LET ME PULL OUT AND JUST WAIT UNTIL I CAN, YOU KNOW, MERGE IN ON THAT.
UM, ALSO, UM, IT IS A SAFETY CONCERN.
UM, THERE'S A CURVE RIGHT THERE.
UM, WE'VE GOT APARTMENTS OVER HERE WHERE THERE ARE CHILDREN PLAYING BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL IN AN OPEN AREA.
THREE PEOPLE ARE SEATED IN RED CHAIRS BEHIND THE SPEAKER.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE THE BACK ROADS JUST TO GET OUT OF OUR SUBDIVISION BECAUSE IT IS SEVEN TO 10 MINUTE WAIT AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY.
IT'S NOT JUST DURING THE RUSH HOUR.
IN THE EVENINGS COMING HOME, THE TRAFFIC CAN BE BACKED UP AROUND THE CURVE BACK TO THE RED LIGHT THAT THEY JUST INSTALLED AT ZION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M OPPOSED.
I KNOW MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT AREN'T HERE TONIGHT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS AS WELL.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED SEVERAL TIMES TO THE PLANNING SESSION AND WE STILL JUST ADAMANTLY DO NOT WANT THIS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NONE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
THE WOMAN HANDS A DOCUMENT TO THE CHAIRMAN.
AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER CARD, MAN AND GRAY JACK ACROSS HIS ARMS. THOMAS, I'M NOT EVEN GONNA PRONOUNCE THE LAST NAME.
THE CHAIRMAN SITS AT THE MEETING TABLE.
THOMAS STANDS AT THE PODIUM USING HIS LAPTOP, UM, ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT GOING TO TAKE PLACE IN BOB TOWN.
MY ADDRESS IS 45 22 BOB TOWN ROAD.
IT'S MM-HMM
THE SPEAKER LOOKS DOWN AT HIS LAPTOP.
THE 14.6 ACRE 77 LOADS EASILY.
SPEAKER RAISES BOTH HANDS OPEN.
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THERE, 45 22 HOUSE AND, UH, THE OTHER FOUR HOUSES BUILT BY BY ME.THERE WAS A DE THIS, THIS RESTRICTION THAT IS YOU HAVE TO BUILD
NOW THE 14.6 ACRE 77 LORDS IS AUDIENCE MEMBERS SIT IN ROWS OF CHAIRS.
IT'S MORE THAN THE ACCEPTABLE NUMBER ONE DAY.
SECOND, THE WOMAN SEATED IN THE AUDIENCE LOOKS THROUGH A STACK OF PAPERS.
WELL, WE ARE SHARING THE BOUNDARY, SO WE NEED A THOMAS GLANCES AT THE LAPTOP RECALL THROUGH THE AREA BOUNDARY.
AND UH, ANOTHER THING IS THE TRAFFIC.
IF MORE HOUSES ARE THERE, MORE PEOPLE WILL USE THE CAR AND, UH, THE CONVEYANCE.
AND, UH, UH, SO IF YOU CAN REDUCE THE NUMBER OF HOUSES AND UH, GO FOR THIS ZONING IS BETTER BECAUSE WHEN I BUILD THE HOUSE, THERE WAS A LEAD RESTRICTION.
ONLY 2000 SQUARE FEET ABOVE HOUSES CAN BE BUILT ON THAT AREA.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, HOW NOW THEY ALLOWED THIS, WHICH HOUSES THE MAN IN A PLAID SHIRT.
UH, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE CITY DOES NOT CONTROL DEED RESTRICTIONS OR HAVE ENFORCEMENT THEREOF.
THERE RESTRICTIONS THAT GO WITH THE LAND AND SOMETHING THE BUYERS PROBABLY ALREADY WORKED OUT.
CHAIRMAN ROBERTS GLANCES TO HIS RIGHT.
AND I SEE SOME MORE SPEAKER CARDS COMING.
CHAIRMAN ROBERTS ACCEPTS THE SPEAKER CARDS.
UH, BOB ANU, UM, ANU A AFTER THAT, UH, CATERINA SOSA CHAIRMAN ROBERTS REVIEWS PAPERS ON HIS DESK.
FIRST OF ALL, I THANK, I GIVE THANKS TO ALL THE CITY RULERS AND HONORABLE PLANNERS AND MEMBERS.
I HAVE CERTAIN CONCERN ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.
I MOVED OVER THERE, MOVED TO THE GARLAND AREA ABOUT 45 YEARS AGO.
IT WAS VERY PEACEFUL, VERY QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE ENJOYED THAT AREA SO MUCH.
I LIVE ON 45 18 BOB TOWN ROAD, SPEAKER, REST, HANDS ON THE PODIUM.
IT'S HARD TO GET INTO THE STREET RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SIGNAL.
LUCKILY THEY PUT A SIGNAL OVER THERE RIGHT NOW.
WHEN WE COME IN FROM THE OTHER SIDE, THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES MM-HMM
MY HOUSE IS SHARING, SHARING THE SAME BOUNDARY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SECURITY THEY GOING TO PROVIDE FOR US.
RESIDENT SHIFTS AT THE PODIUM, BECAUSE IT IS SHARED.
IT'S RIGHT NOW A BARBED FENCE IS THERE AND SOME TREES THERE.
SO SINCE THE FENCE IS OVER THERE, WE HAVE SOME SECURITY.
NOW, IF THEY DEVELOP THAT LAND, I DON'T KNOW HOW IS OLDER PEOPLE LIKE US GO.
OUR LIFE GOING TO BE IN FUTURE.
SO ONE IS OUR BUILDING, THE OTHER ONE IS TRAFFIC AND NOISE.
AND ALSO, UH, A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS ON THAT AREA THAT IS OVER BUILDING THE APARTMENTS, NEW APARTMENTS, DR.
AND ALSO EVERYBODY USE THE COLLINS ROAD TO GO TO THE PHONY AREA ALSO.
SO IT'S, OUR LIFE IS HORRIBLE AND IF WE BUILD OVER AND OVER IN THAT AREA.
SO PLEASE CONSIDER OUR THE MAN GESTURES AT THE PODIUM.
THE CHAIRMAN TURNS THE PAGES OF A DOCUMENT.
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HI, I AM NERVOUS.AND MY REASONS FOR OPPOSING THIS ARE, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ASKING FOR TOO MANY EXEMPTIONS.
IF THEY TRULY ARE SF FIVE, THE MAX LOCK COVERAGE IS 50% AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 60%.
THE GARAGES, THEY SHOULD BE FIVE FEET BEHIND THE FACADE.
AND FOR 75%, THEY'RE DOING A MINIMUM OF AT LEAST SIX INCHES.
THAT'S LIKE A 90% REDUCTION IN THE REQUIRED GARAGE SETBACK.
THEY'RE ALSO NOT INCLUDING AN ALLEYWAY.
I'M ACTUALLY THE CORNER HOME RIGHT HERE, SO I CAN ATTEST.
I WON'T HARP TOO MUCH ON THE TRAFFIC, BUT ME BEING ON THE CORNER, IT TAKES ME LIKE FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC BACK SO MUCH.
AND FOR ME TO EXIT MY DRIVEWAY, IT'LL, I'LL JUST BE SITTING THERE WAITING TO GET A CHANCE TO LEAVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THIS DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES THE CITY TO WAIVE AND MODIFY THIS MANY STANDARDS OF THE VERY ZONING DISTRICT BEING REQUESTED, THAT SHOULD BE REASONED TO QUESTION WHETHER THE SF FIVE IS ACTUALLY THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED DENIAL FOR THIS EARLIER VERSION, SPECIFICALLY 'CAUSE LOT DIMENSION AND DENSITY AND ARCHITECTURAL DEVIATIONS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS RESIDE REVISED THING IS STILL SUBSTANTIAL FOR WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
CATHERINE SOER REVIEWS NOTES AT THE PODIUM.
THE SMALLER LOTS ARE A MAJOR COMPLICATION.
AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE SF SEVEN AND SF 10, AND I DON'T SEE HOW TRANSITIONING TO SMALLER LOTS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA.
I WOULD LIKE TO HARP AGAIN ON THE ALLEY WAIVER.
WE PUT OUR TRASH IN THE ALLEYS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD CAUSE ANY SORT OF PROBLEMS FOR PICKING UP THEIR TRASH.
IF THIS THING WAS TO GO TO GO THROUGH SOSA PLACES HER HAND OVER HER CHEST AND GESTURES TO DOCUMENTS ON THE LECTERN.
AND I DON'T SEE WHY THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD, SHOULD RECEIVE A REDUCED ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AS PART OF THIS REZONING.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO FINISH OFF ON SAYING I HAVE STRONG IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION, AND I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON.
IF I HAD MORE TIME, EVERYTHING WOULD BE PINK.
THESE ARE CURRENTLY THE HOMES GOING IN OPPOSITION TOWARDS THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, MICHAEL HOWARD IS ALSO, I SAW THE PREVIOUS VIDEOS FROM LAST TIME.
I BELIEVE NONE OF HIS STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED.
ALSO, THE ONES IN ORANGE WERE PREVIOUSLY OPPOSED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, EVERYONE THAT I SPOKE TO WAS VERY MUCH UNAWARE THAT THIS WAS EVEN GOING THROUGH.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THIS AT ALL.
SO I'M ASKING FOR THE COMMISSION TO REJECT THIS PARTICULAR PLANNING ELEMENT FOR THESE AFFIRMATION REASONS.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS SPEAKER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN THE SPEAKER GESTURES.
THE RESIDENT STEPS AWAY FROM THE PODIUM AS THE NEXT SPEAKER APPROACHES.
I LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THAT DEVELOPMENT AND WHERE IT'S GONNA COME IN.
I'M THE SECOND HOUSE ON THE CORNER RIGHT NEXT TO CAT.
AND, UH, THE THING I'M NOT TOO OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
I SAW WHAT KAT HAD, HAD A DRAWING SHOWING THE ALLEYWAY THEN COMING INTO THE ALLEYWAY.
THAT SHOULD NEVER BE AN OPTION.
THEM COMING INTO OUR ALLEYWAY, UH, THERE, I BELIEVE THEY'RE NOT GONNA TOUCH YOUR ALLEY AT ALL.
THIS IS ALL BE SELF-CONTAINED.
AND ANOTHER THING TO BACK UP THE TRAFFIC CLAIM, THE OTHER DAY I SPENT THREE LIGHTS, CYCLES GETTING FROM THE QUICK TRIP TO COME INTO MY ALLEY AT CARRY LANE.
AND, UH, YOU SEE THAT AND THE TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP AROUND THE CORNER GOING AROUND THE CORNER ALL THE WAY AROUND BOB TOWN.
THAT'S WHERE THE TRAFFIC SLOWED DOWN.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TRAFFIC COMING IN FROM ZION ROAD ALL THE WAY, STRETCHING ALL THE WAY TO I 30.
SO AT THE SAME TIME, I'M TRYING TO GET OUTTA MY HOUSE ALLEYWAY WITHOUT BEING RUN OVER.
BUT THE STREET, YOU GOT LIKE Z COMING RIGHT HERE, YOU GOT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT OVER HERE, SO YOU GOT A WHITE LINE HERE.
BUT PEOPLE COME OVER HERE TO STOP.
THEY BLOCK US, OUR TRAFFIC OUTTA THE ALLEY.
I'VE COMPLAINED ABOUT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'VE COMPLAINED TO THE PREVIOUS MAYOR.
THEY PUT UP A LIGHT AND THEY PUT UP A STRIPE HERE FOR ME.
BUT STILL, YOU GOT A STRIPE LINE OVER HERE AND A RED LIGHT HERE.
SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE PASSING THE RED LIGHT OVER HERE, I'M ALREADY, MY GREEN LIGHT'S ALREADY GONE.
I'M, I'VE GOT MY GREEN LIGHT AND THEY'RE LIKE, BOOM, THEY'RE ABOUT TO RUN ME OVER.
SAME THING COMING ACROSS THIS WAY.
MAKE SURE THAT CAR'S STOPPING 'CAUSE THEY'RE COMING SO FAST.
TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET GOES SO FAST.
WE NEED BUMPERS TO SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC IN THAT STREET.
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ON THE MIDDLE PART, TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING ACROSS AT THE LIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING TO THEM REALLY FAST.I'VE BEEN HIT A FEW TIMES, ALMOST REALLY CLOSE TO BEING HIT SEVERAL TIMES.
AND THAT LIGHT, THAT INTERSECTION NEEDS TO BE FIXED AT ZION AND BOB TOWN.
FOUR PEOPLE SIT BEHIND THE SPEAKER AND, UH, AT LEAST THE LIGHTS MOVED BACK TO WHERE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNERS.
THAT'S WHERE THEY NEED TO STOP.
INSTEAD OF PUTTING ACROSS THE STREET CROSS ZION WHERE THEY GOT 60, 80 FEET BEFORE THEY CAN STOP AT THE RED LIGHT WHERE THEY CAN RUN THE RED LIGHT RIGHT HERE.
AND WE'VE HAD OUR GREEN LIGHT RED LIGHTS.
WE ALREADY GOT A RED LIGHT BEFORE THEY ALREADY PASSED THE INTERSECTION.
SO, UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ANY DEVELOPMENT.
I SAW THE DEVELOPMENTS COMING IN WHEN THE TORNADO HIT, THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT CAME AROUND, AND ALL THOSE DEVELOPMENTS BEHIND THE POWER PLANT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GOOD TAX THING FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BROUGHT IN A LOT OF GOOD, NICE HOUSES INTO THE AREA WITH A BIG TAX BASE.
I'D RATHER SEE THAT THAN APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
I'M SEEING THE APARTMENTS OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
BUT YOU GOTTA FIX A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.
YOU CAN'T, NOBODY CAN BE COMING DOWN DOWN THE ALLEY.
IT SHOULDN'T BE TIED TO THE ALLEY.
WELL, I THINK STAFF HERE IS, AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL COME CONVEY THE CONCERNS.
I'M CERTAIN THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN CONVEYED, BUT YEAH, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO PLUG MY REITERATING DOESN'T HURT.
I'VE BEEN BUGGING MY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE LOCAL POLICE OFFICER SAY, HEY, YOU GOTTA WATCH.
MAYBE HAVE MORE POLICE ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA TO JUST, JUST TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC GOING AND MAKE SURE THEY OBEY THE LAWS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN.
THE CHAIRMAN LOOKS AT A DOCUMENT.
IT'S THE LAST SPEAKER CARD I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS CASE? THE CHAIRMAN LOOKS TOWARD THE PODIUM.
I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS EVERY QUESTION.
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.
UM, SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES CALL FOR, UM, LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING ALIGNS WITH THAT.
THE SPEAKER LOOKS DOWN AT THE PODIUM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PLANNED OR ENVISIONED TO BE AN AG TYPE USE LIKE SOME FARM OR, YOU KNOW, ONE HOUSE ON IT.
UM, OUR PROPOSAL ADHERES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME TRAFFIC BACKUP, UM, DUE TO SOME, UH, LIGHTS, UH, TRAFFIC LIGHT ON BOB TOWN.
WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BURDEN SHOULDN'T BE PUT ON US.
UH, FOR THAT I WILL STATE THAT THE CURRENT CONDITION OF BOB TOWN IS A TWO LANE WITH A SHARED THIRD, THIRD LANE IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, MAXIMUM BUILD OUT IS ACTUALLY, UH, FOUR LANES.
SO TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION AND FULLY BUILT OUT WITH CURB AND CURB AND GUTTER.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP THE SITUATION.
AND SO OUR DEVELOPMENT, IT'S JUST A, A DROP IN THE BUCKET AND THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
IT'S LITERALLY 47, UH, VEHICLES AT PEAK HOUR.
THAT'S LESS THAN ONE VEHICLE A MINUTE.
THAT DOESN'T EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT WE HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS.
SO WE'RE EVEN SPLITTING THAT UP, UM, AS, AS WELL.
SO VERY, VERY MINIMAL TRAFFIC, UH, FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO WE WOULD ASK, YOU KNOW, YES.
AND THE WAY THINGS WORK IS THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S WHEN THE CITY SORT OF REACTIVELY IMPROVES ROADS, UM, AND ADHERES TO THE, TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
AND SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT THE NEIGHBORS SPEAKER LOOKS TOWARD THE AUDIENCE, CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT MOVING THE BOB TOWN SECTION UP ON THE PRIORITY LIST.
IT'S A PRIORITY OF THAT SECTION VERSUS ANOTHER ROAD OR ANOTHER SECTION.
UM, THAT'S HOW YOU ADDRESS THAT.
NOT TO MENTION THE PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE, THE EAST BRANCH WILL BE EXTENDED SOUTH SOMEDAY.
UM, AND SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THAT WILL IN IMPROVE TRAFFIC AT CERTAIN LOCATIONS OF BARNES BRIDGE TO THE SOUTH WILL LIKELY BE AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR TOO.
SO PEOPLE WON'T ALL BE HEADING TO THE NORTH I 30.
THEY'LL HEAD SOUTH, GET ON GEORGE BUSH.
SO THAT WILL HELP IN THE FUTURE, UH, AS WELL.
SPEAKER STANDS AT PODIUM LOOKING DOWN.
WE WOULDN'T, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING ALLEYS AT ALL.
WE WOULD HAVE PRIVACY FENCES, KEY GESTURES TO THE AUDIENCE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TIE OURSELF INTO THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE WEST OR NORTH.
THE SPEAKER GESTURES WITH BOTH HANDS.
SO WE'LL JUST HAVE PRIVACY FENCES, WE'LL HAVE BACKYARDS.
SO WE'LL BE, WE'LL HAVE SEPARATION, UH, FROM THEIR ALLEY.
WE'LL BE TOTALLY FENCED OFF FROM THEIR ALLEY.
UM, WE'LL BE PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK ALONG, UM, BOB TOWN WHERE ONE DOESN'T EXIST.
THE SPEAKER POINTS TO A DOCUMENT ON THE PODIUM.
WE, OUR, OUR TRAFFIC STUDY ACTUALLY EVALUATED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AT BOTH OF OUR STREET INTERSECTIONS WITH BOB TOWN, AND IT WAS FOUND TO BE ACCEPTABLE.
AND THEY, THEY ACTUALLY LOOK AT WAIT TIMES.
UM, SO HEADING OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, COMING IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND SO IT WAS FOUND TO BE ACCEPTABLE,
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UH, FROM OUR, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND THE CITY'S TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT.THE SPEAKER STANDS AT THE WOODEN PODIUM AS THE GROUP REMAINS SEATED IN MAROON CHAIRS BEHIND HIM.
UH, WE WOULD, UM, STAND, UH, TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT WE WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
YEAH, THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS HERE.
COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, THEN COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
I GUESS THIS IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION I THINK MAYBE FOR STAFF.
SO, UH, THE TWO ENTRANCES TO THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, TEXT KRISTEN LUCCI.
I'M ASSUMING THERE ARE NO CURRENT TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN THIS AREA.
ARE THERE? WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, ARE THERE ANY TRAFFIC LIGHTS, ANY STOP SIGNS COUNCIL MEMBERS LOOK TOWARD THE MONITORS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, CAN BE ADDED AS A CONDITION? THE DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN DISPLAYED ON MONITORS? GENERALLY NOT, BECAUSE THOSE THINGS ARE NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS, UM, A PD MATTER OR A ZONING MATTER.
SO GENERALLY WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE THINGS IN THE, IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS OR EVEN IN THE ZONING CASES THAT, THAT'S WHY I PUT THE BUG IN THEIR EAR ABOUT STOP SIGNS AND STUFF, KNOWING THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY.
BUT THEY MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO IT.
COMMISSION MEMBERS SIT AT THE DESK AND THAT, THAT'S A OVER A GLOBAL EVALUATION BY THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT.
UM, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU THINK A STOP SIGN OR A STOPLIGHT IS WORN, IT, IT'S NOT MM-HMM
UM, IT CAN ACTUALLY CREATE WORSE ISSUES, ROWS OF SEATS BEHIND A SPEAKER.
SO, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON AND, OKAY.
MAXWELL, GOOD EVENING TO YOU, SIR.
UM, YOU'VE BROUGHT, UM, A QUALITY, UM, PROPOSAL AND A BUILDER ALREADY IN HAND AS WELL, WHICH, UH, IS NOT, UH, COMMON.
UM, I THINK AS I WAS LISTENING TO, TO YOUR REBUTTAL, UH, AND CONSIDERING THE COMMENTS, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN, WHEN YOU'RE TELLING US THAT YOU CONVEY, UH, THE IDEA FULLY SO THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS ON BOARD WITH YOU.
UM, I DON'T THINK I HEARD THIS EVENING ONE COMMENT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
IN FACT, WE HEARD, UH, SOMEBODY THAT SAID THE DEVELOPMENT COULD BE GOOD OR COULD BE OKAY FOR THE AREA.
UM, I THINK WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM AND I THINK, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, FIRM SOLUTIONS TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM YET.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO WORK WITH STAFF TO RESOLVE THOSE, THOSE ISSUES.
AND I AGREE THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULDN'T BE PENALIZED FOR A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN EXISTENT SINCE BEFORE THE APPLICANT CONSIDERED THE APP, YOU KNOW, DOING THE PROPOSAL.
EVERYONE KNOWS IT, IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
UH, HOPEFULLY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, SOMEWHERE IN THIS TO, TO WORK WITH US TO RESOLVE IT.
AND IF I COULD ADD THE MORE, ACTUALLY, NOT THAT WE PRODUCE MUCH TRAFFIC, BUT THE MORE TRAFFIC YOU HAVE IT, WHEN YOU REACH CERTAIN THRESHOLDS, IN THEORY, THE COUNCIL WOULD, THE SPEAKER LEANS TOWARD THE DESK, SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE COMMISSION MEMBERS TEXT WAYNE BOLTON.
I, AGAIN, IT, I KNOW YOU KNOW IT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, AT IT, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE SUCH AN EXPERT AT IT AT THIS POINT, UH, THAT YOU'VE GOTTA GO BACK AND TEACH ALL OF US THAT ARE STILL IN GRADE SCHOOL ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
COMMISSIONER DUCKWORTH AND COMMISSIONER ABEL.
UH, YOU SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING A WHILE AGO, AND AS MUCH AS I HEAR THE PEOPLE'S CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC, WHICH WE ALL DETEST WAITING AT A STOP SIGN OR TO GET OUT, UH, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES IN, PERHAPS THAT WILL BE THE CATALYST TO GET THIS STREET WIDENED AND IMPROVED IN THAT AREA.
SO MAYBE SHOULD THE COMMISSION CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE PAIN, BUT TO GET, UH, A, A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO SOME OF THESE PAINS THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING THROUGH.
AND, UH, CERTAINLY WE KNOW OUR CITY NEEDS TO GROW.
WE NEED TO DEVELOP PROPERTIES.
UH, THAT'S A PART OF OUR GOAL.
UM, LOOKING AT THIS, COMPARED TO WHAT YOU BROUGHT US LAST TIME, THIS IS A CONSIDERABLY BETTER OPTION WITH LESS DENSITY.
UM, I LIKE THE STREET LAYOUTS.
I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSES.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THE VA THERE'S WHAT, 30, 40% OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FROM HOME NOW.
UM, I HAVE FOUR CARS IN MY DRIVEWAY.
ONLY ONE OF THEM LEAVES TWICE A DAY.
MY WIFE DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT ME.
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UM, WE TAKE ONE OF THOSE ON THE WEEKEND.UM, ONE OF THEM IS HER CAR THAT SHE JUST WANTED TO HAVE SITTING THERE.
I, I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC ON BOB TOWN.
I DRIVE IT OFF AND IT'S HORRID.
THE COMMISSIONERS WATCH A SCREEN.
BUT I, I REALLY THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING, COULD BE THE BEST THING FOR THE AREA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WOULD GO IN THERE OTHER THAN RETAIL, A BIG STRIP CENTER, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE WORSE FOR THE AREA.
UM, YEAH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MANY PEOPLE KNOCKING DOWN THE DOOR TO KEEP THIS AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON 14 ACRES ON BOB TOWN, WHICH AS MUCH AS I HATE IT, 'CAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 14 ACRES.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THERE MAKES SENSE ANYMORE.
AND LIKE I SAID, HOPEFULLY THIS IS A CATALYST TO GET BOB TOWN ROAD FIXED AND GET, I, I KNOW THAT THE CITY IS LISTENING.
THEY DO LISTEN TO THIS AND CITY COUNCIL WILL LISTEN TO US.
SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IT IS.
BUT I DO LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT VERSUS THE ONE THAT YOU BROUGHT LAST TIME.
I I GOT ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AGAIN, FOR LIKE STAFF.
SO HOW WOULD, HOW COULD IT LOOK? 'CAUSE WHAT I AM HEARING ALSO FROM, FOR MANY FOLKS HERE IS THAT THERE ARE CURRENT ISSUES AND THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED, RIGHT? THAT THIS IS GONNA MAKE THINGS WORSE WITH LIKE TRAFFIC.
BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT YEAH, THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO, UM, BLAME IT ON THE APPLICANT ITSELF.
UM, HOW COULD THIS BE A CATALYST TO IMPROVE THE ROADS? WHAT, WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN? BECAUSE I'M, I'M, I'M FEELING THE CONCERN FROM THE RESIDENTS HERE THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? YOU, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE COULD BE, SO WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN? I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT ITSELF WITH WHAT IT IS, DIDN'T REQUIRE A TIA BECAUSE OF HOW OUR CODE IS WRITTEN.
IT'S BASED OFF OF WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC WILL BE GENERATED FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T MEET THAT THRESHOLD.
HOWEVER, GENERALLY, AND I COUNCIL MEETS IN THE CHAMBER, DON'T THINK ANY, I DON'T WANT ANY MISCONCEPTION OUT THERE THAT THIS WILL BE THE CATALYST TO HAVE BOB TOWN IMPROVED.
I THINK THE APPLICANT WAS TALKING ABOUT A POSSIBILITY THAT THE MORE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, THE MORE NOTICEABLE THE, UH, SITUATION COULD BE TO DECISION MAKERS.
AND THAT COULD PUT BOB TOWN POTENTIALLY, UH, UP ON THE PRIORITY LIST.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO SCIENCE TO IT RIGHT NOW.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL HAPPEN.
THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD ACTUALLY WILL CONTRIBUTE, BUT, BUT THAT CAN POTENTIALLY CONTRIBUTE TOWARD A FASTER LOOK AT BOB TOWN MAYBE.
SO I, I DON'T WANT ANY MISCONCEPTION OUT THERE.
WELL, AND THIS WILL PROBABLY GET ME INTO TROUBLE, BUT THE MEETING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, THEY'LL HAVE A PERFECT FORUM IN A COUPLE WEEKS TO BRING THEIR ISSUE ABOUT TRAFFIC TO THE COUNCIL.
THANKS JULIUS JENKINS AND COMMISSIONER JENKINS.
UM, AND, UH, TO MAXWELL'S POINT, I, I DID HEAR HIM SAY THAT THERE WERE PLANS IN THE FUTURE TO EXTEND, UH, GEORGE BUSH.
UH, I HAVE HEARD THAT AS WELL, THAT THAT IS THE INTENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE UP IN THE AIR, UM, DATES ABOUT WHEN THAT COULD OR COULD NOT HAPPEN.
UM, I, I GUESS, UM, AND THIS IS MORE TO MS. MS NURSE'S POINT, I GUARANTEE THAT WE HAVE, UM, THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, LEADERS OF THE CITY, UH, THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM, UH, THIS EVENING THAT HAVE PRESENTED THEIR OPPOSITION, UH, TO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
AND, UM, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN AVENUE AVAILABLE, UM, THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS COULD, UM, BEGIN TO, UM, HAVE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS, UM, TO ENGAGE AND TO EXPEDITE, UH, THE, THE, THE PROCESS BY WHICH BOB TOWN IS ADJUST.
I TEXT GEORGIE CORNELIUS, I'M FOR THE APPLICATION.
I THINK THE APPLICATION IS SOUND FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR AN EXTREMELY AMOUNT OF TIME.
WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN UP HERE THAT WERE HORRIBLE FOR THE SPOT.
BUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED.
I'M HOPING THAT THE VOICES IN THIS ROOM CAN BEGIN TO HAVE THE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS THIS EVENING WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THE PROBLEM.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THEM, BUT I KNOW THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN THE ROOM.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR RESPONSE AND FOR YOUR APPLICATION.
COMMISSIONER ABEL, TEXT TERRY HILLARD.
I, I WAS BASICALLY GONNA REITERATE THE SAME THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHARGED WITH LOOKING AT THE HIGHEST
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AND BEST USE OF PROPERTY.UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS IN PLAY IN SOUTH GARLAND AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET RETAIL, WE'RE TRYING TO GET OTHER THINGS BACK TO THE AREA AND BEING IN REAL ESTATE, THE OLD ADAGE ROOFTOP BRINGS RETAIL, UM, IT WILL BRING GROCERY STORES BACK.
UM, YOU CAN LOOK AT RIVER SET RIGHT HERE IN MY DISTRICT AS A CATALYST TO IMPROVING THE AREA AROUND.
WE STARTED THAT DEVELOPMENT AND THAT AREA IS STARTING TO GROW AGAIN.
TEXT PATRICK A BE DISTRICT SIX TEXT EDGAR MIRANDA, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
THIS IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE AND OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SEEN, IT IS THE BEST THAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH.
I WILL BUILD A QUALITY PRODUCT AND I KNOW THAT THEY WILL STAND BEHIND THE AREA.
UM, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE A LAST COMMENT? ANOTHER QUESTION.
A LITTLE QUESTION, UH, FOR MAXWELL SIR, ABOUT, UM, IF, IF THIS IS TO, TO GET APPROVED, UH, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THESE WOULD BE BUILT AND READY? WELL, WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLATING AND PERMITTING, WHICH WOULD TAKE, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS SPEAKER REVIEWS, DOCUMENTS.
UM, AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS CAN TAKE OVER A YEAR TO TWO YEARS.
UH, PUTTING THE STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN AND STARTING, STARTING THE HOMES.
COMMISSIONERS SIT BEHIND THE CURVE DAYS.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A, A GENERAL TIMEFRAME.
UH, AND THEN WHAT ELSE DID I HAVE? OH, ONE LAST OTHER QUESTION AGAIN, MAKE IT FOR STAFF IS I KNOW CITY COUNCIL AND OTHER LEADERS RIGHT.
LISTEN TO OUR MEETINGS, BUT IS THE COMMISSIONERS SIT OF THE DAYS? CAN WE ADD POTENTIAL CONDITIONS OR NOTES TO COUNSEL? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
WE CAN MAKE SURE, UM, THE CONDITIONS ARE MADE INTO THE, INTO THE ACTUAL CONDITIONS DOCUMENT.
THE GARLAND SIGN HANGS ON THE WALL BEHIND THE DACE.
SO IT IS, IF IT'S NOT A COMMENT OR NOTE THAT IS NOT ENFORCEABLE, WE CAN'T REALLY PUT IT IN THE CONDITIONS, BUT WE CAN SAY THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION'S SENTIMENT WAS.
THE FLAG STANDS IN THE CORNER OF THE ROOM.
I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THE CHAIRMAN LOOKS AT HIS LEFT.
OH, CLARIFICATION FROM, SO ONE CLARIFICATION.
THE SIDEWALKS, UH, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE LONG B TOWN, IT'S FOUR FEET.
THEY WILL HAVE TO, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO BRING IT UP TO SIX FEET, WHICH IS OUR STANDARD.
AND THEN, UM, THE CHAIR WANTED TO ADD A CONDITION, WHICH IS MEANDERING.
AND THEN ONE OTHER, UM, COMMENT TO, I THINK COMMISSIONER DALTON'S SUGGESTION, ORNAMENTAL FENCE CHAIRMAN ROBERTS PRESIDES STAFF WOULD, IF THAT HAPPENS, STAFF WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UM, HAVE MASONRY COLUMN, UM, SPACED EVERY 50 FEET.
THE SCREENS DISPLAY THE DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN.
PUBLIC, UH, HEARING AG AGAIN, WE HAVE TO, UH, USE THE BUTTONS, OTHERWISE SHE CAN'T PUT IT TOGETHER.
I KNOW IT'S A CHANGE AND WE'RE ROLLED AND IT'S HARD.
A MOTION TO, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MIRANDA.
THIS IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY.
THIS IS NOT A VOTE ON THE ISSUE.
THE COMMISSION MEETING REMAINS IN SESSION TEXT VOTING RESULTS MOTION BY JULIUS JENKINS.
WE ARE IN DISCUSSION MODE AGAIN, OR MOTION MAKING MODE.
LET ME CLEAR, LEMME KNOW WHEN I CAN CLEAR THE MOTION.
CHAIRMAN ROBERTS OBSERVES THE HEARING.
YOU GUYS CAN MAKE MOTIONS AGAIN.
UM, AS I SAID EARLIER, THIS IS A, THIS IS A DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT APPLICATION TO CONSIDER, UM, LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND, OR I UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR CONCERNS, UH, RELATE TO SIGNIFICANT, UM, TRAFFIC DELAY THAT'S ALREADY IN THE AREA.
AND WHO KNOWS HOW LONG CONSTRUCTION OR ADDITIONAL HOUSEHOLDS OR THE, LIKE, WE'LL ADD TO THAT, UM, I AM CONFIDENT, UM, IN THE BUILDER AND IN CITY STAFF TO ENFORCE THE RULES REGARDING THINGS LIKE SW AND, UH, MAKING CERTAIN THAT THE DEBRIS DOESN'T HIT THE ROADWAYS AND THE, LIKE FOUR MEMBERS SIT AT THE DAYS.
BUT AGAIN, UH, THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED ON THIS ONE.
UM, REGARDING THE APPLICATION JUST FOR THE LAND USE, THOUGH I'M IN FAVOR, UM, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT'S A QUALITY PRODUCT THAT'LL ENHANCE THE CHARACTER AND THE VALUE OF THE SURROUNDING HOUSEHOLDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, WE'VE HEARD PLENTY OF PRESENTATIONS
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RECENTLY REGARDING THE CHALLENGES FACING THE CITY, UH, IN THE FUTURE.UM, I CAN'T SEE WHY I WOULD, UH, BE AGAINST AN APPLICATION THAT WOULD, THAT DIRECTLY ADDRESSES SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES, UH, AS THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED.
SO CAN WE HAVE DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER MIRANDA? ALL RIGHT.
SO FROM MY END, UH, THIS STILL, THE ONE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS I'M WONDERING WHAT CAN WE ADD? WHAT IS THE COMMISSION HERE? UM, UH, THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN COMMISSIONERS LOOK FORWARD, ADD IN MAYBE AS A POTENTIAL CONDITION, OR AT LEAST WRITE FOR COUNSEL, UH, TO LOOK AT IF WE WERE TO, UH, PROVE IF, IF, IF WE HAD CONDITIONS THEY SHOW UP IN THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL.
UH, OTHERWISE THEY'RE JUST NOTES FROM STAFF AND THE CONDITIONS WE WERE LOOKING AT, IT WAS THE ROD IRON FENCE.
WITH, UH, COLUMNS EVERY 50 FEET AND THAT SINCE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REPLACE THE SIDEWALK THERE, THAT IT'D BE MEANDERING SIDEWALK AS LOUD.
AND WAS THERE A THIRD ONE? ALSO FENCING FOR THE LOTS ALONG
WELL I TALKED ABOUT AN UPGRADED FENCE AND, UH, BOARD ON BOARD VERSUS A PICKET.
BUT DID YOU DISCUSS SETBACK TOO? YEAH, WE DID DISCUSS SETBACKS OF 15 FEET AT THE FRONT FOR PORCHES.
SO, SO THE GARAGE WILL STILL BE AT 20 FEET, BUT THEIR PORCHES CAN PROJECT OUT.
THE CHAIRMAN SITS AT THE CENTER OF THE BASE.
THAT WAS, THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, SO.
WHOEVER MAKES A MOTION IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT OR LET ME TRY TO INCLUDE IT.
WE ARE MAKING A LITTLE BIT OF SAUSAGE HERE, FOLKS.
I DUNNO, I DUNNO ABOUT THROWING MY NECK OUTTA HERE ON THIS ONE.
WHO'S MAKING A MOTION? MY NECK WILL STAY INTACT.
I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT YOU MAKE THIS MOTION.
I THANK YOU, I THINK IT IS TIME TO MAKE A MOTION.
I LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF
WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO ITERATE THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED BY THE COMMISSION? I WOULD LIKE FOR THOSE, UH, CONDITIONS TO BE FOCUSED ON.
MEAN DURING SIX FOOT, UM, WHITE SIDEWALKS, ORNAMENTAL FENCE, UM, WITH MASONRY COLUMN EVERY 50 FEET, UM, FENCING ON THE LOTS ALONG B TOWN BOARD AND BOAT, UPGRADED FENCE AS PO POSSIBLE.
AND THEN POSSIBLY 15, UH, POSSIBLY SETBACK CONSIDERATIONS TO HAVE THE GARAGES TO BE OFFSET FURTHER FROM THE BUILDING FACADE.
AND IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO ALSO SAY, SINCE TRAFFIC WAS A PART OF A HEAVY PART OF THIS, UH, TONIGHT, IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO SAY FOR THE STAFF TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS TRAFFIC? WE WILL PUT IT, PUT IT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
WE CAN'T PUT IT IN THE CONDITION, BUT WE'LL PUT IT IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THAT WAS PLANNED COMMISSION HEARD THE RESIDENTS AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR, UM, CONSIDERATION THAT, UH, COUNCIL HEARS IT OUT TO.
AND, UH, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCIDO.
LET ME RESTATE THE MOTION AND CORRECT ME IF I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT.
MOTION IS TO APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS THAT THE SIT SCOTT ROBERTS CHAIRMAN, UH, SIX FOOT WALK BE MEANDERING THAT THERE BE A FENCE WITH, HE LOOKS UP FROM THE PAPERS, UH, MASONRY COLUMNS EVERY 50 FEET.
UM, THAT STAFF WILL BE DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY OF A 15 FOOT SETBACK ON THE FRONT, REDUCE SETBACK, RE REDUCE, REDUCE SETBACK FOR THE PORCHES.
AND CHAIRMAN ROBERTS LEANS IN, IN A DECORATIVE, UH, FENCING ALONG BOB TOWN.
AND I BELIEVE THOSE WERE FOUR ITEMS. DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND MOTION? COMMISSIONER JENKINS? THANK YOU MR. I, I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND THAT AS SUCH, WE SHOULD BE VOTING ON THE MOTION.
THE QUESTION THAT I HAD FOR STAFF, WHEN DOES THIS GO TO COUNSEL? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP THERE? UM, IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'LL BE SEPTEMBER FOUR 15TH.
SO THE, THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY UPON, OR IF WE APPROVE, IS FOR IT TO PROCEED TO COUNSEL MM-HMM
COUNSEL WILL HEAR THE CASE AND THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT POINT AS WELL.
LET ME MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT
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OF PUBLIC HERE.I BELIEVE SO, BECAUSE THEY, IT'S ON THE, IT'S ON THE STAFF.
THEY HAVE A WORK SESSION AT THE NEXT MEETING, SO YOU'LL BE ON TAPE INSTEAD OF LIVE.
THE COMMISSIONERS CONSULT THEIR LAPTOPS.
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LUCITA MOTION IS TO APPROVE WITH ALL THOSE LISTED CONDITIONS.
THE CHAIRMAN IS AT THE BASE AND THAT PASSAGE UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING DOWN AND, UH, KEEP YOUR VOICES ALIVE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE WE END TONIGHT'S SHOW, UH, MEETING.
AND IT WAS KIND OF KIND OF NICE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CORNELIUS GOT TO LIKE MAKE THE LAST MOTION BECAUSE THIS IS HER LAST NIGHT WITH US.
UH, HER CITY COUNCIL PERSON HAS REPLACED HER AND THE NEW PERSON WILL BE HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIVE PLUS YEARS OF SERVICE.
THE COMMISSION WANTS TO THANK YOU.
AND THE CITIZENS, THEY DON'T KNOW IT, BUT THEY WANT TO THANK YOU TOO.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT US FOR ANYTHING YOU MAY NEED.
I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED SITTING NEXT TO, SO IT IS NOW 8 36.
SO UNTIL OUR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14TH, WE ARE ADJOURNED.