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AT SIX O'CLOCK GET STARTED.

UM, LOOKS LIKE WE JUST MEETING OR MISSING JANA.

HEATHER, UM, WAS UNABLE TO COME TONIGHT.

UM, OUR FIRST, UM, ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UM, COURTNEY HAS SUPPLIED THE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 5TH MEETING.

IF YOU CAN DO THOSE, UM, MOTION TO, I ALREADY REVIEWED THEM AT HOME.

I, I SECOND THE MOTION.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM TOMMY.

ANY, I'LL SECOND IT.

YOU NEED A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? A.

ANY OPPOSED BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME A MEMBER OF OUR COMMITTEE.

IF, UH, JAMIE, IF YOU COULD JUST A MOMENT, UH, SHARING WITH THE GROUP, UM, YOUR FULL NAME, UH, WHAT YOU DO FOR WORK, AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A MEMBER OF THE PROGRAM.

MY NAME IS JAMIE AND, UM, WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING, I AM A CONSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST FOR DALLAS ISD.

UM, I, MY FOCUS FOR WORK IS THE, UM, EMERGENT BILINGUAL STUDENT THAT IS IN NEED OF SPECIAL EDUCATION SUPPORT.

SO I HAVE ABOUT 15 OR SO YEARS OF, UM, EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION AND I'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 30 YEARS.

MINUTES.

MINUTES.

WELCOME, WELCOME.

MAD.

THANK YOU.

JAMIE SHARED EARLIER THAT SHE WAS, UH, WORRIED ABOUT DOING THINGS WRONG OR DOING THINGS BY THE BOOK.

AND I THINK SHE'S IN SHARED COMPANY, THAT WE ALL WANT TO DO THINGS REALLY WELL AND BY THE BOOK.

SO, AND WE'RE ALL, YOU NEED TO DO SO, SO, WELCOME BOARD.

UM, ANY PUBLIC COMM COMMENTS, CONTRIBUTIONS, NOT THIS EVENING.

OKAY.

UM, I DID ASK, UM, COURTNEY TO ADD THE NEXT ITEM TO THE AGENDA.

UM, JUST SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT SPEAKER ENGAGEMENT.

UM, I DID DRAFT SOMETHING THAT I WILL HAVE COURTNEY, UH, FORWARD TO YOU ALL AND TO HAVE PRINTED FOR OUR BINDERS.

JUST TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF STRUCTURE ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE, UM, SPEAKERS COME IN, WHAT, UM, TYPES OF QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE POSING AND WHAT KIND OF MINDSET WE SHOULD GO INTO THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH.

UM, KEEPING IN MIND THE POPULATIONS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING ON THE ALL ABILITIES COMMITTEE FOCUS AROUND, UH, INTELLECTUAL DIFFERENCES, EMOTIONAL OR MENTAL HEALTH DIFFERENCES.

UH, SERVING THE DEAF AND HARD OF HEARING COMMUNITY, UH, SERVING THOSE THAT ARE BLIND OR VISUALLY IMPAIRED.

UH, THOSE WITH MOBILITY DIFFERENCES AND AGES ACROSS THE LIFESPAN.

UM, WHEN LISTENING TO SPEAKERS, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME INTO THAT WITH A MINDSET THAT, UH, WE CONSIDER ALL OF THESE POPULATIONS, UH, NOT JUST THE ONES THAT WE MOST CLOSELY IDENTIFY WITH.

UM, I WAS GOING TO HAVE Y'ALL DO A LITTLE CHEESY EXERCISE WITH ME AND I DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT .

UM, BUT I'VE DONE IT WITH MY STAFF WHERE WE ARE ASSIGNED A SPECIFIC POPULATION AND WE HAVE TO WEAR GLASSES.

UH, SOME ARE SUNGLASSES, SOME ARE READING GLASSES, AND IT'S TO DRIVE HOME THIS NOTION OF LOOKING THROUGH THE LENS OF THE POPULATIONS THAT WE'RE SERVING.

UM, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, THE THING THAT FIRST COMES TO MIND IS MENTAL HEALTH.

'CAUSE THAT'S MY FULL-TIME DAY JOB.

UM, BUT I ALSO NEED TO CONSIDER WITHIN THIS ROLE, THOSE THAT MAY HAVE INTELLECTUAL DIFFERENCES OR PHYSICAL DIFFERENCES AS WELL.

UM, I DID ADD ABOUT 10 QUESTIONS, UM, THAT ARE SUGGESTED QUESTIONS WHEN WE HAVE SPEAKERS, WHETHER THEY REPRESENT A DEPARTMENT LIKE THE CITY OR ANOTHER ORGANIZATION.

UM, JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO POST QUESTIONS.

UH, WHEN WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS, I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL, ALL OF THEM, UH, 'CAUSE YOU'LL GET A COPY OF THIS, BUT I WANTED TO PROVIDE A COUPLE OF THEM BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER TONIGHT.

MATT'S GONNA BE SPEAKING, UM, TONIGHT ON, ON BEHALF

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OF THE CITY.

SO, UM, SOME OF THOSE, UH, SUGGESTED QUESTIONS COULD SOUND LIKE, WHAT FEEDBACK HAVE YOU GOTTEN FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT YOUR SERVICES AND HOW HAS THAT FEEDBACK BEEN RECEIVED AND OR INTEGRATED? UM, OR IF WE'RE SPECIFICALLY THINKING ABOUT THE SCOPE OF, UM, OUR WORK, WHAT ACCOMMODATIONS ARE NOT BEING CONSIDERED DUE TO OBSTACLES WITH IMPLEMENTATION.

SO I WAS SHARING THIS WITH JAMIE EARLIER, BUT OBSTACLES COULD BE FINANCIAL.

MAYBE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL RESTRICTIONS.

THEY MIGHT NOT KNOW HOW.

UH, WHICH IN THAT, UH, IN THAT INSTANCE, WE MAY NEED TO IMPLY A SPECIALIST, UH, AN EXPERT TO COME AND SPEAK ON THAT TO HELP THE CITY TIMELINE FOR BUILD OUT STAFFING CAPACITY.

THESE THINGS CAN, CAN ALL STAND IN THE WAY.

AND ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UH, OF A QUESTION COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, IF OUR COMMITTEE HAS QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK, WHO WITHIN YOUR ORGANIZATION OR DEPARTMENT WOULD THAT BE BEST TO FILTER THOSE QUESTIONS TO? UM, LET'S SEE.

UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES ARE, UM, WHEN MARY CASE SPECIFIC, UM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CODE COMPLIANCE EARLIER, AND JAMIE SHARED WITH ME THAT SHE LEARNED AFTER THE LAST MEETING THAT SHE OBSERVED, UH, THAT HAVING FRUITING TREES IN YOUR FRONT YARD IS ACTUALLY AGAINST CODE COMPLIANCE HERE IN THE CITY OF GARLAND.

AND SO I'M SURE SHE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS FOR CODE COMPLIANCE THAT WOULD'VE PERTAINED TO HER, SOMETHING THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, UH, SPECIFIC TO CODE COMPLIANCE.

COULD HAVE SOUNDED LIKE, ARE YOU OPEN TO STAYING A FEW MINUTES AFTER THE MEETING TO CONSULT ON A SPECIFIC ISSUE I AM FACING OR SOMEONE I KNOW IS FACING.

SO IT'S NOT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE MEETING, BUT YOU STILL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO AN EXPERT ON, ON THAT ISSUE.

SO AS I SAID, I HAVE ABOUT 10 QUESTIONS THAT I PUT IN, UM, THIS DOCUMENT, AND THEN I'LL FORWARD THAT OVER TO COURTNEY.

UM, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT KIND OF THE SCOPE OF OUR WORK ON THE COMMITTEE AND HOW TO ENGAGE WITH OUR VARIOUS SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE? THE ONE THING I SEE IF I HAVE ANY CRITI, AND THIS IS POSITIVE, BUT NOBODY'S PERFECT, IS ONCE WE LEAVE THIS ROOM, THERE'S LIKE NO COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US.

MM-HMM .

SOMEONE COMES UP WITH THAT DOUBT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHOOT IT OUT AND SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS? OKAY.

JUST TO KEEP IT GOING ON, YOU KNOW, AND I'D LIKE TO CHALLENGE THE BOARD TO BRING ONE TO TWO GUESTS WITH THEM THAT MIGHT BENEFIT 'EM.

I BE A PRESIDENT, WE HAVE PEOPLE, I DO THE SAME THING AT OUR HOA MEETINGS.

I CHALLENGE THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO BRING NEW FACES.

REGULAR ONES ALWAYS COME IN, BUT LET'S GO OUT THERE AND MAKE THE OTHER SOMETHING SOMEBODY'S NEVER BEEN HERE, FEEL COMFORTABLE AND, AND BRING 'EM IN.

MM-HMM .

AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE LIKE, WOW, I'VE BEEN MISSING THIS.

I SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE.

SO THAT'S MY IDEA.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF BRIDGING OUR CONVERSATION, UM, NOT ONLY WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS, BUT BETWEEN THE MEETINGS AND THEN YOUR CHALLENGE THE BOARD TO BRING ONE OR TWO GUESTS AS WELL.

YES MA'AM.

THAT THOSE THINGS, AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR COMMUNICATION UP TO THIS DATE HAS BEEN FACILITATED BY COURTNEY, BUT THAT WE CAN ALSO, UM, DO THAT ON OUR OWN.

RIGHT.

UM, IS EMAIL BEST FOR EVERYONE HERE? TYPICALLY WE HAVE ME TO DO THIS.

I GET 80 CALLS A DAY, MINIMUM, SAY , NO PHONE CALLS, I PHONE CALLS.

THAT WAY THEY CAN ANSWER IF THEY CONVENIENCE, BUT I THINK IT'D BE GREAT BECAUSE WITH THE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE IDEAS THAT COME OUT AND THE MOTIVATION SNOWBALLS.

MM-HMM.

WHAT KIND OF ISSUES COULD WE RUN INTO THOUGH WITH THE, UH, MEETING TYPE? I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS CERTAIN THINGS CAN'T BE DISCUSSED OUTSIDE THE MEETING MM-HMM .

BUT I GUESS JUST PUTTING A GENERAL IDEA OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION WOULDN'T REALLY BE CONSIDERED VIOLATING THAT.

NO, THAT WOULD BE QUESTION.

YEAH.

I WOULD SHY AWAY FROM HAVING A EMAIL WITH EVERYONE ATTACHED TO IT AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS.

WE'LL GET INTO PROBLEMS WITH WHAT'S CALLED WALKING QUORUMS, MEANING THAT YOU'RE HAVING A MEETING THAT HAD OPPOSED MEETING THAT HADN'T BEEN POSTED.

SO TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY THE BEST APPROACH IS TO EITHER, UH, CONTACT STAFF, ME AND COURTNEY, AND WE CAN CIRCULATE IT AND BLIND COPY EVERYONE OR, UH, CONTACT THE CHAIR AND, UH, TALKS DIRECTLY WITH THE CHAIR, KIND OF TWO ON

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TWO, BUT TRYING TO KEEP BELOW THE QUORUM LEVEL, WHICH I BELIEVE FOR US IS FIVE.

SO YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS.

BUT, AND YOU KNOW, WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT COMMITTEES TOO, AND SO THAT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON IS ESTABLISHING THESE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT ARE BELOW THE QUORUM LEVELS WHERE YOU COULD HAVE DISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ONE SPECIFIC IDEA TO BRING BACK TO THE FULL BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION.

COULDN'T IT BE CALLED A STUDY GROUP? CORRECT.

A STUDY GROUP, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

RIGHT.

'CAUSE WE DID ESTABLISH BYLAW OFFICIAL COMMITTEE MEETING BECAUSE IT'D HAVE TO BE PUBLIC AND FULL.

RIGHT.

BUT A STUDY GROUP, IT COULD BE CALLED.

YEAH.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE STAGE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AS A COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH IN THE RESEARCH PHASE.

LIKE THAT'S WHY THESE, UM, SPEAKERS WE'RE JUST GATHERING INFORMATION, EXPOSING OURSELVES TO WHAT'S OUT THERE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR NEXT PHASE WE CAN MOVE INTO IS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE INTO MAKING SUGGESTIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION TO GATHER AT THIS POINT.

UM, PERHAPS WE CAN JUST SEND AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY SAYING THERE'S A, SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AT THE NEXT MEETING, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOME WHERE AND STUFF, WHAT THOMAS'S TALKING ABOUT THAT DO NOT APPLY ANYTHING, BUT JUST KIND OF A FEW MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT.

SURE.

AND, AND COURTNEY THEN WOULD ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND FOR CONTRIBUTING THOSE TO THINGS.

UM, UH, WHEN NEW MEMBERS, UM, COME ONTO THE COMMITTEE, UM, LIKE WE DID THIS EVENING, WE, WE MET WITH JAMIE FOR A FEW MINUTES BEFORE.

UM, SO THIS WILL BE SOMETHING I'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH THOSE MEMBERS AS WELL, JUST REMINDING THEM OF FROM THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR AND HOW TO ENGAGE OUR SITUATION THROUGH.

WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MATT, TO DISCUSS THE 20 26 27 BUDGET AND TAX RATE ELECTION.

THANK YOU.

UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST GET INFORMATION OUT TO, UH, ALL OF OUR BOARDS ON THE TAX RATE ELECTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CALLED ON NOVEMBER 3RD.

AND SO I WAS JUST GONNA WALK THROUGH, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, LEGAL THINGS THAT, UH, MAY BE HARD TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT'S ON AN ELECTION BALLOT AND WHAT THE ELECTION AND WHY WE'RE CALLING IT.

AND I WAS JUST GONNA WALK THROUGH ALL OF THOSE AND, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL PREFACE, UH, AT THIS STAGE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ADVOCATING OR ANYTHING FOR THIS ELECTION, IS, THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL JUST TO GET INFORMATION TO YOU.

SO YOU'RE AN INFORMED VOTER.

SO IF YOU'RE ASKING ME QUESTIONS, I'M, I'M JUST GONNA PROBABLY ANSWER IT IN VERY DRY LEGAL TERMS OF THIS IS WHAT THIS MEANS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL GET STARTED AND JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH, UH, OUR PRESENTATION FOR THIS AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A, A QUESTION AND ANSWER TIME AFTERWARDS.

SO REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE, OF THIS MEETING IS JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL, LIKE I SAID, TO DISCUSS THE NOVEMBER 3RD BALLOT.

AND, UH, WHAT ITS INTENTIONS ARE, IT WE WILL COVER THREE THINGS.

THE BALLOT LANGUAGE ITSELF REPRODUCE EXACTLY AS IT WILL APPEAR ON THE BALLOT.

UH, I'LL DISCUSS WHAT'S CALLED THE ADOPTED TAX RATE VERSUS WHAT IS THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE AND WHAT THOSE MEAN TO AN ACTUAL TAX BILL.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THAT IT'S NOT FUNDED UNDER A, WHAT'S CALLED A VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

SO AGAIN, UNDER SECTION 26 0 7 E OF, OF THE TEXAS TAX CODE, IF THE PROPOSITION IS NOT APPROVED, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE BECOMES THE CITY'S TAX RATE.

AND VOTER APPROVAL RATE IN OUR SITUATION NOW IS LOWER THEN THE ADOPTED TAX RATE, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WOULD BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WOULD'VE TO COME BACK AND ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET.

SO THE FIRST QUESTION IS, WHY IS THE PROPOSITION APPEARING ON THE TAX ON THE BALLOT? AND THE ANSWER IS, THE CITY ADOPTED A PROPERTY TAX RATE A 0.6 7 9 9 0 0 PER $100 OF TAXABLE VALUE FOR THE 2020 6 27 TAX TAX YEAR.

AND THAT ADOPTED RATE EXCEEDS THE CITY'S MOTOR APPROVAL RATE OF 0.6 4 3 2 5 4.

AND SO WHY IT'S CALLED A VOTER APPROVAL RATE, THAT IS THE HIGHEST RATE THAT A CITY CAN ADOPT WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL A COLLECTION.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BALLOT, THIS IS THE EXACT LANGUAGE THAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE BALLOT FOR PROPOSITION A FOR THE CITY OF GARLAND, FOR A FOR OR AGAINST, UH, ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT ON HERE BY LAW IS WHAT OUR APPROVED TAX RATE IS, WHICH IS 0.6

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7 9 9 0 0, AGAIN, WHICH IS 0.0 3 6 6 4 6 HIGHER FOR $100 OF VALUE.

THEN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WE ALSO HAVE TO PUT ON THE BALLOT WHAT THE TAX RATE WAS LAST YEAR.

AND LAST YEAR OUR TAX RATE WAS 0.6 8 9 7 4 6.

SO LAST YEAR, THE WHERE THE CONFUSION LIES IS LAST YEAR THE TAX RATE WAS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE APPROVED FOR THIS YEAR, BUT WE ARE STILL ABOVE OUR VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.

SO WE HAVE TO CALL AN ELECTION TO ASK THE VOTERS FOR THAT EXTRA 3.66 CENTS, WHICH MEANS IT COMPLETELY CONFUSING BECAUSE IT SAYS IT'S AN INCREASE IN BIG, BOLD RED LETTERS WITHIN AN ACTUALITY COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

IT IS NOT, BUT COMPARED TO THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, IT IS, SO THE LANGUAGE APPEARS.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS FOR AN AVERAGE TAX BILL IS, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS JUST PUT TOGETHER A PRIOR YEAR TAX RATE, WHICH AGAIN, OUR PRIOR TAX RATE IS 0.6 8 9 7 4 6.

THE ADOPTED RATE, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY COUNSEL, IS 0.6799, WHICH IS A CHANGE OF ROUGHLY 1 CENT LOWER THAN THE PRIOR YEAR TAX RATE.

HOWEVER, OUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE FOR THIS YEAR IS 0.6 4 3 2 5 4, WHICH IS ACTUALLY 4.65 CENTS BELOW, UH, THE PRIOR YEAR TAX RATE.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE MEAT OF IT, THERE'S TWO SECTIONS OF THE TAX RATE OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, WHICH FUNDS PERSONNEL, POLICE OFFICERS, FIREMEN, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION OPERATIONS.

AND THERE'S WHAT'S CALLED THE INTEREST IN SINKING RATE, WHICH FUNDS STRICTLY CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THE DEBT SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WHAT WE'VE DONE HAS BEEN PAYING OFF AS WE PAY OFF DEBT.

WE ARE LOWERING THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE PORTION BY FOUR 4.12 CENTS AND UN UNDER THE ADOPTED RATE.

UH, THE, UH, THE ADOPTED RATE IS CONTEMPLATING MOVING 0.03 OF THAT INTO OPERATIONS TO FUND ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICER AND FIREMEN, WHICH I'LL GET INTO LATER.

SO THAT IS WHAT'S TRIGGERING THE, THE TAX RATE ELECTION.

'CAUSE UNDER TEXAS STATE LAW, IF YOU INCREASE YOUR M AND O TAX RATE BY MORE THAN ROUGHLY 3.5%, THAT'S GONNA TRIGGER THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, UH, YOUR ADOPTED RATE BEING HIGHER THAN YOUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THAT.

BUT WE ARE LOWERING THE DEBT SERVICE RATE, SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE AVERAGE IMPACT IS FOR AN ANNUAL TAX BILL.

AND I JUST USED THE $200,000 TAXABLE VALUE HOME, 300,000 TAXABLE VALUE HOME, OR 400, AND THIS IS TAXABLE VALUE.

SO THIS IS ALREADY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IF THERE WAS HOME SAYS OR ANYTHING, JUST USING ROUND NUMBERS.

SO IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE $200,000 HOME, YOUR PRIOR TAX, UH, BILL ON AVERAGE FOR A $200,000 HOME AND GARLAND WAS 1,379 UNDER ADOPTED RATE, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT IF WE GET THE FOUR, IF IT IS A YES VOTE, THAT RATE WILL BE 1 3 6 0 OR ROUGHLY $19 LOWER THAN THE PRIOR YEAR UNDER ASSUMING THAT SAME TAXABLE VALUE UNDER THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

BECAUSE UNDER THE NO VOTE VOTE, IT WOULD DROP 4 CENTS.

YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO SEE MUCH BIGGER SAVINGS.

SO ON THOSE SAVINGS, IT WILL, THE AVERAGE BILL WILL BE 1, 2, 8, 7, OR ABOUT $92.

SO AS FAR AS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR TAX BILL, YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS AND, UH, THESE ARE JUST GENERIC NUMBERS, BUT WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE, IT'S CALLED UH, BO GARLAND.COM.

IF YOU GO OUT THERE, THERE'S, WE'RE GONNA BE CONTINUING TO PUT INFORMATION OUT THERE, BUT THERE'S TONS OF INFORMATION ON THERE.

BUT WHAT THE MAIN THING WE WANTED TO GET OUT THERE WAS A TAX RATE CALCULATOR.

SO WHAT IT DOES IS IF YOU GO UNDER TAX IMPACT UNDER VOTER BO GARLAND, WE CAN SEND YOU THAT LINK BO GARLAND.COM RIGHT? AND LOOK AT YOUR TAX RATE.

YOU CAN GO TO YOUR DA APPRAISED VALUE, TAKE YOUR PREVIOUS YEARS, UH, TAXABLE VALUE AND YOUR CURRENT YEARS TAXABLE VALUE AND SEE WHAT YOUR TAX BILL WILL BE UNDER BOTH A FOUR VOTE AND AGAINST VOTE.

SO THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO DETERMINE.

IS IT, YOU KNOW, THE LOWER TAX BILL, I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF THAT, OR ONCE I WALK THROUGH THE, WHAT THE, UH, ADOPTED BUDGET FUNDS ARE, AM I MORE IN FAVOR OF THAT? IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT THAT WAS THE MAIN THING WE WANTED TO GET OUT THERE IS BECAUSE IT WILL TELL YOU, NOT OBVIOUSLY NOT EXACTLY, BUT IT WILL GIVE YOU A GREAT ESTIMATE ON WHAT YOUR TAXES WILL BE AFTER NOVEMBER 3RD FOR THE UPCOMING TAX YEAR.

SO IN VERY GENERAL TERMS, UH, UNDER

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THE APPROVED BUDGET TAX RATES GOING DOWN A PENNY, IF THERE, IF THERE IS A NO VOTE, AND WE MOVE BACK TO THAT VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, THERE'S A 4.6 PENNY DROP IN THE TAX RATE.

SO JUST IN GENERAL TERMS, A VOTE OF YES, ONE PENNY DROP FROM THE PRIOR YEAR, A VOTE OF NO, A 4.6 PENNY DROP FROM PRIOR YEAR.

SO THIS IS HARD TO SAY, AND I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE AND, AND TALK ABOUT 'EM.

BUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WILL BE FUNDED UNDER THE ADOPTED TAX RATE.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ADOPTED TAX RATE, YOU KNOW, THAT EXTRA 3.6 PENNIES OVER IN THE M AND O SIDE WILL ADD ABOUT $9.7 MILLION OF FUNDING, UH, TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND, AND FOR SOME ITEMS TO HELP MAINTAIN CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS.

SO UNDER THIS, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING FOR 10 POLICE OFFICERS, UH, AS WELL FOUR POLICE TAHOE UNITS TO, TO ALLOW 'EM TO GET AROUND IN NINE FIREFIGHTERS PLUS AN OVERTIME ADJUSTMENT.

EIGHT EMERGENCY DISPATCHERS CONVERTING THREE ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIAN POSITIONS FROM TEMPORARY TO FULL-TIME, A CODE OPERATIONS AND SPECIAL PROJECT ADMINISTRATOR AND ONE, UH, PARKS FIELD SUPERVISOR WITH A TRUCK TO GO ALONG WITH THAT UNDER MAINTAIN CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS.

UH, WITH OUR BOND PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUESTING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL ONGOING FUNDING FOR MAINTAINING PARKS AND CITY LANDSCAPING, MAINTAINING LIBRARY MATERIALS AND RESOURCES, MAINTAINING ANNUAL CITY, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS, PARKS, VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, PARK SECURITY, UH, ADDITIONAL MAGISTRATES SERVICES FOR OUR MUNICIPAL COURT, UH, CROSSING GUARDS.

AND THEN SOME OPERATIONAL CUTS WERE MADE DURING THE, UH, UH, ADOPTED BUDGET IN TRANSPORTATION, MUNICIPAL COURT AND ANIMAL SERVICES THAT WOULD RESTORE THAT.

OUR WILDFLOWER PLANT PROGRAM AS WELL AS WE'RE REQUESTING TO PUT IN GENERAL FUND RESERVES ABOUT 2.5 OR 2.2 $0.6 MILLION IN RESERVES TO MITIGATE AGAINST FUTURE EMERGENCIES AND FUTURE UNFORESEEN FINANCIAL NEEDS THAT MAY ARISE.

JUST WALKING THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE, WE WANTED JUST TO BREAK OUT IN DETAIL WHAT EACH ONE OF THESE IS.

SO UNDER THE 10 POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS, YOU'LL SEE 10 POLICE OFFICERS WOULD COST IN A SALARY ABOUT $824,000.

UH, THEY TYPICALLY DO WORK SOME OVERTIME.

UH, SO WE HAVE AN OVERTIME ADJUSTMENT OF 184.

UH, THERE ARE FRINGE BENEFITS, WHICH INCLUDE THINGS LIKE YOUR FICA TAX, MEDICARE HEALTH INSURANCE, UH, THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL RETIREMENT SYSTEM PENSION PLAN THAT ALL CITY EMPLOYEES ARE UNDER, AND WHAT'S CALLED A CIVIL SERVICE RETIREMENT STABILITY BENEFIT.

AND THIS ONE IS SPECIFIC TO OUR CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES.

IT'S, UH, RELATED TO THE FACT THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREMEN ARE NOT IN SOCIAL SECURITY.

SO IN 2018, WE ESTABLISHED A RETIREMENT STABILITY BENEFIT TO BASICALLY MIMIC SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THEM.

YOU'LL SEE THEIR EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES AND TRAINING MATERIAL FOR A TYPICAL POLICE OFFICER AND AS WELL AS, UH, OUR CHEVY TAHOE UNIT, SO THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR CHEVY TAHOES.

THE, THE BASE UNIT THEMSELVES IS ABOUT 75,000 EACH.

UH, THERE IS A LOT OF ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT IN A POLICE VEHICLE RELATED TO LIGHT BARS, RADIOS, AND ALL THE ACCESSORIES THAT CAGE UNITS, ALL THAT BUILT WITHIN A TAHOE.

WE ALSO, WHEN WE, WE, UH, BUDGET FOR A, UH, VEHICLE, WE GO AHEAD AND START SETTING ASIDE REPLACEMENTS FOR FUTURE RESERVES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DEBT FINANCE OUR LEASE CARS.

SO YOU, YOU'LL SEE IN YEAR, THE YEAR ONE RESERVE IS ABOUT $50,000 FOR ALL THESE UNITS TO START SETTING ASIDE FOR A REPLACEMENT OF THOSE TAHOES.

AND THEN, UH, THERE'S FUEL COSTS AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE COSTS THAT WE BUILD INTO THE BUDGET SO THAT WE'RE ENSURING THAT IT'S PROPERLY MAINTAINED AND HAS ADEQUATE FUEL WHEN WE GET TO THE FIREMEN.

SO WE ARE REQUESTING NINE FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS AS WELL AS AN OVERTIME ADJUSTMENT.

SO THE SALARIES FOR NINE FIREFIGHTERS IS ABOUT $700,000.

AGAIN, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR FRINGE BENEFITS TOO, AND MESH LIKE POLICE, THEY'RE NOT IN SOCIAL SECURITY.

SO THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THE RETIREE STABILITY BENEFIT.

THEIR EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY THEIR GEARED THAT THEY HAVE TO WEAR WHEN THEY GO OUT ON CALLS, AS WELL AS THEIR TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT.

AS WE TRAIN AND DEVELOP ALL OF OUR FIREMEN INHOUSE AS WELL AS A FAIRLY LARGE OVERTIME ADJUSTMENT, UH, WE WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET OUR, UH, OVERTIME BUDGET INTO WHERE IT'S IN MORE, IN A MORE ADEQUATE STATE FOR OUR FIREMEN

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AND, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICE DISPATCHERS.

SO WE ARE REQUESTING AID EMERGENCY SERVICE DISPATCHERS.

UH, THE SALARIES ARE ABOUT 424,000.

AGAIN, THERE'S AN OVERTIME ADJUSTMENT, SOME FRINGE BENEFIT IN THE EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH 'EM.

AND OUR EMERGENCY SERVICE DISPATCHERS, UH, HANDLE ALL 9 1 1 CALLS.

SO THEY HANDLE BOTH FIRE AND POLICE EMERGENCY CALLS.

THE THREE ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIANS.

SO I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THIS IS, WE HAVE THREE TEMPORARY PHYSICIANS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS TO FUND HAVING THREE PERMANENT FULL-TIME ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIANS AT OUR, OUR NEW ANIMAL SHELTER.

SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THE SALARIES FOR A FULL-TIME FOR THREE OF 'EM IS ABOUT A HUNDRED, 2000 AS WELL AS THOSE FRINGE BENEFITS.

BUT YOU ALSO SEE THERE'S A REDUCTION BECAUSE WE WOULD REMOVE THE TEMPORARY POSITIONS THAT WERE THERE.

NOW THERE IS ALSO ONE CODE OPERATIONS AND SPECIAL PROJECT ADMINISTRATOR THAT WILL BE REQUESTED THERE.

UH, WE TALKED CODE WAS HERE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THAT NEW PROGRAM THAT'S COMING OUT.

SO THIS WOULD FUND ONE ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, CODE OPERATOR WHO WOULD HANDLE SPECIAL PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

AND THAT SALARY IS ABOUT 98,000 WITH FRINGE BENEFITS AND EQUIPMENT SUPPLIES.

AND THIS IS A HIGHER LEVEL CODE, UH, POSITION WHO WOULD ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE HAVE FOUR OP FOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS REPORTING UP TO THEM.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PARKS FIELD SUPERVISOR POSITION AND A PICKUP THEY WOULD, UH, I'LL GET INTO IN THE NEXT ONE.

WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR MAINTENANCE AND, UH, LANDSCAPING.

UH, THIS POSITION WOULD HANDLE A BULK OF THAT CONTRACTING THAT GOES ON FOR MOWING AND LANDSCAPING.

UH, THE SALARY FOR IT IS 60,000 WITH THE FRINGE BENEFITS AND THAT ONE PICKUP, AGAIN, THAT PICKUP WOULD ALSO HAVE THE RESERVE REPLACEMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ASSOCIATED WITH THE FUEL AND MAINTENANCE.

AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE PARKS AND RECREATION OPERATIONS.

AND, AND THIS IS JUST SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING TO MAINTAIN THE PARK INFRASTRUCTURE RIGHT OF WAYS THEY HANDLE ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY MOWING MEDIANS, CORRIDORS, CITY FACILITIES, AND OTHER CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.

SO THIS REALLY, THE BULK OF THIS IS FOR A MOWING CONTRACT AND FOR LANDSCAPING FOR ALL THE, ALL THOSE FACILITIES AS WELL AS THE WILDFLOWER PROGRAM.

THE NEXT ONE UP IS ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PATROL HOURS FOR OUR PARK FACILITIES, UM, OF ABOUT $90,000.

THIS WOULD SUPPLEMENT WHAT WAS ALREADY CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET FOR PARK SECURITY, BUT IT REALLY PLAYS INTO THE PREVIOUS REQUESTED ITEM.

IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO, TO, UM, TO MORE ADEQUATELY FUND, UH, THE PARKS, UH, SECURITY, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THE LANDSCAPING AND MEDIANS ARE MOWED, UH, AT A MORE, AT A HIGHER LEVEL ON THE MAINTAIN LIBRARY MATERIALS.

SO UNDER THE, UH, UH, VOTER OR THE APPROVED BUDGET, UH, THERE'S FUNDING FOR $1,050, $1,000,050.

MY APOLOGIES AND I BROKE OUT.

OUR LIBRARY DEPARTMENT WAS NICE ENOUGH TO BREAK OUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT WOULD FUND.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT WOULD FUND ABOUT 25,610 OF NEW MATERIALS TO BE IN THE CIRCULATION.

AND THEY HAVE BROKEN OUT EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD BE SPLIT BETWEEN ADULT, UH, TITLES, TEENS AND CHILDREN UNDER THE, UH, VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE US TO CUT THAT.

IT WOULD BE ABOUT 495,000 AND IT WOULD FUND ABOUT 10,900 OF NEW TITLES FOR ADULTS, TEENS, AND CHILDREN.

THE NEXT ONE UP IS THE MAINTAINING ANNUAL CITY SPECIAL EVENTS.

UNDER THE VOTE IN FAVOR, THE BUDGET WOULD BE ABOUT 676 9 30.

AND THOSE ARE THE ALL THE EVENTS THAT THE VOTE IN FAVOR WOULD FUND.

YOU CAN SEE ART MADE HERE, THE ASIAN AMERICAN FESTIVAL, JUNETEENTH RED WHITE U FALL FEST, D CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE ARE SENSORY FRIENDLY CHRISTMAS AND 12 MUSIC MADE HERE.

EVENTS UNDER THE VOTE AGAINST THE BUDGET WOULD BE ABOUT 280,000 AND RED WHITE U CHRISTMAS ON THE SQUARE ARE THE TWO SPECIAL EVENTS FUNDED.

THAT'S HUGE.

WE GO FROM 20 EVENTS TO TWO EVENTS.

SO MAGISTRATE SERVICES, THIS IS

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THINGS LIKE BLOOD WARRANTS AND, AND THINGS WHERE JUDGES NEED TO MAKE, UH, DECISIONS ON THESE WARRANTS.

UH, THIS IS FOR EXTRA, UH, FUNDING FOR AFTER HOURS AND WEEKENDS FOR MAGISTRATE SERVICES.

AND JUST THINK OF, YOU KNOW, IF A JUDGE NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION ON A WARRANT AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THIS WOULD JUST PROVIDE THOSE EXTRA HOURS FOR THOSE SERVICES.

AND I MENTIONED THAT THE , THERE WAS SOME OPERATIONAL CUTS MADE DURING OUR PROPOSED BUDGET PROCESS AND TRANSPORTATION ANALYST SERVICE MS WILL COURT.

AND THOSE WOULD JUST RESTORE A PORTION OF THOSE IN ORDER FOR THEIR OPERATIONS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING, CROSSING GUARDS, SALARY MARKET ADJUSTMENTS.

UH, THIS WOULD PROVIDE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS FOR OUR CROSSING GUARDS OF ABOUT 14,000 AS WELL AS THE FRINGE BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM FOR ABOUT 15,527.

AND I MENTIONED THAT AT THE TOP ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE.

AND AGAIN, THIS RESERVE IS JUST TO FUND UNFORESEEN OPERATIONAL EXPENSES, EMERGENCIES OR INCREASED COSTS THAT MAY OCCUR IN THE FUTURE.

AND IT TOTALS, UH, WITH TOTAL 3.5 MILLION IN THE VOTE IN FAVOR AND WITH TOTAL 974,000 IN THE, UH, VOTE AGAINST.

SO, UH, THE BIG, THE BIG THING IS, IS WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY YOU GOTTA BUILD KIND OF TWO BUDGETS.

YOU GOTTA BUILD THE, UM, THE VOTE VOTE FOR AND A VOTE AGAIN.

SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IF VOTERS DO NOT APPROVE THE PROPOSITION UNDER 26.07 E AT THE TAX CODE AND REDUCE THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX RATE TO 0.6 4 3 2 5 4, THEN WILL, THIS WILL BASICALLY RESULT IN A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO BE ADOPTED OR, OR DIRECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE FOR THE REMOVAL OR REDUCTION OF THOSE POSITION SERVICES AS DISCUSSED, UH, IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDES.

AND THEN AGAIN, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE WEBSITE.

THERE'S, UH, TONS OF INFORMATION ON THERE AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PUT MORE INFORMATION ON THERE.

IT REALLY STEMS AROUND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS OUTLINED, UH, MENTIONED THE TAX CALCULATOR WOULD BE UNDER THAT TAX IMPACT PORTION.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND EVERYONE TO GO AND UTILIZE THAT TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT A VOTE FOR AND VOTE AGAINST WILL GET YOU.

UH, WE HAVE THE FAQ SECTION AS WELL AS VOTER INFORMATION THAT OUTLINES POLLING PLACES, EARLY VOTING DATES, AND OBVIOUSLY THE NOVEMBER 3RD DAY FOR THE ELECTION.

UH, THIS SLIDE COVERS PRETTY MUCH WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT RELATED TO THE, THE TAX IMPACT PORTION AND HOW A RESIDENT CAN SEE, UH, EXACTLY HOW THERE EITHER ONE OF THESE VOTES WILL IMPACT THEIR TAXES.

UH, ONE CAVEAT IS, DOES A LOWER TAX RATE GUARANTEE A LOWER TAX BILL? NO, BECAUSE IF YOUR TAXABLE HOME VALUE RISES YOU MORE THAN WHAT THAT 4.60 CENTS OR MORE THAN WHAT THAT 1 CENT IS, YOUR BILL CAN ACTUALLY STILL BECOME HIGHER.

SO WHEN I WAS SHOWING YOU EARLIER, I WAS, I WAS SHOWING YOU STATIC HOME VALUES OF 200, 300, 400, WHAT UNDER THESE TAX RATES, WHAT THE REDUCTION WOULD BE.

IF YOUR HOME VALUE IN EVERY HOME'S DIFFERENT, IF YOUR HOME VALUE WAS INCREASED, YOU KNOW, 50% BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, YOU MAY STILL SEE HIGHER TAXES.

SO IT'S JUST MORE OF A CAVEAT.

THAT'S WHY THIS TAX RATE CALCULATOR IS IMPORTANT TO GO OUT THERE 'CAUSE EVERYONE'S DIFFERENT.

GO SEE YOUR INDIVIDUAL TAX SITUATION AND SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE CHANGES ARE.

AS FAR AS ELECTION INFORMATION, UH, THIS IS OUT ON THAT WEBSITE, BUT, UH, EARLY VOTING DAYS, MONDAY, OCTOBER 19TH THROUGH FRIDAY, OCTOBER 23RD, UM, FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM IN DALLAS COUNTY, 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM IN COLLIN COUNTY.

AND THEN ON THE WEBSITE ALSO, THERE'S ALL THE ELECTION LOCATIONS.

UH, RIGHT NOW THERE IS SOME, UH, THE LOCATIONS, THE CAVEAT WITH IT RIGHT NOW IS THEY HAVE NOT ANNOUNCED WHERE THESE ELECT PREDATION DATE SITES ARE YET, BUT WE HAVE PUT OUT THERE WHERE THEY TYPICALLY ARE.

SO THAT WILL CHANGE IF ANYTHING CHANGES WITH THAT.

BUT WE WENT AHEAD AND SET OUT WHERE THEY'RE CONSIDER BE HELD UP.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND AS WELL AS, UM, GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME TOWN HALLS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, UM, FIRST PART OF OCTOBER TO HAVE THESE.

SO, UH, THERE WILL BE A ITEM IN THE CITY PRESS.

UM, THIS WEBSITE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE INFORMATION, BUT ONCE WE HAVE THOSE TOWN HALLS SET, THEY'LL BE OUT ON THE WEBSITE AND WE'LL BE SENDING OUT FACEBOOK POSTS AND, UH, IF Y'ALL NEED IT, WE CAN

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EVEN SEND 'EM TO YOU DIRECTLY IF YOU WANT TO GO AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE TAX RATE ELECTION.

AND WITH THAT, I GUESS THE FINAL SLIDE IS ELECTION DAY IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM THE BEST I CAN.

UM, THANK YOU MATT.

SURE.

YOU ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS ALREADY ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL TOWN HALLS.

UM, I WAS CURIOUS, UM, IF THIS MONEY DOESN'T COME FROM THIS TAX RATE CHANGE IS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER AVENUES FOR THE CITY TO, LIKE GRANTS OR ANYTHING FOR THE CITY TO GET THIS MONEY TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OR ADD THESE INITIATIVES? WE, WE ARE CONSTANTLY ALWAYS LOOKING FOR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

BUT THE, IN THE SHORT TERM, NO, THE, THE SHORT TERM, THIS WOULD MEAN THAT THE BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD OCCUR AND THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE REMOVED IN THE LONG TERM.

OBVIOUSLY WE COULD LOOK AT OTHER AVENUES TO TRY TO, UH, ACQUIRE GRANTS, BUT TYPICALLY, UM, TYPICALLY THE ISSUE WITH GRANTS IS, IS THAT THEY'RE ONE TIME IN NATURE, YOU GET A, AN ALLOTMENT AND THEN ONCE YOU USE IT, THEY'RE GONE.

BUT, UH, WE DO TYPICALLY, WE DO LOOK FOR GRANTS AT ANY AVENUE WE HAVE.

UH, WE'LL LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO, TO FUND ITEMS, BUT, UH, REALLY THE, THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO, TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND JUST ASK THEM WHAT THEY WANT.

I MEAN, IF, IF IT IS, IF IT IS A VOTE, YES, THESE ITEMS WILL BE PUT IN PLACE, IT'S A VOTE, NO, WE WILL REMOVE 'EM.

SO IT'S REALLY UP TO THE VOTERS TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

YEAH, YOUR, YOUR GRANTS AREN'T GUARANTEED.

WE CAN'T EVEN FIGURE THAT IN THE FORMULA.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SINCE JANUARY, UH, WHEN THIS COMMITTEE WAS FORMED.

I WONDER HOW THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND SOME OF THE INITIATIVES WE'VE HEARD ABOUT MAY ALSO BE ROLLED BACK IF, IF THEIR BUDGETS ARE, ARE LIMITED.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FROM LIBRARIES AND WE'VE HEARD FROM AN AUDITORIUM AND SOME REALLY AMAZING PROGRAMS THEY HAVE, UH, THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD UP TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND FUTURE BUDGETS.

UM, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, WE HAVE TRIED TO FUND ADEQUATELY AS BEST WE CAN ALL THE CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS AND, BUT, UH, IT'S HARD TO SPECULATE IT TO THE FUTURE WHAT THAT IS.

AND IT CAN'T, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO, DON'T TO BIND COUNSEL TO ANY DECISIONS AT THIS POINT.

SURE.

I ALSO MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT SCALING BACK FROM 20 EVENTS TO TWO EVENTS.

AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR DISCUSSION HAS BEEN ABOUT HOW DO WE MAKE THE EVENTS MORE ACCESSIBLE AND ALL OF THOSE COME WITH PRICE TAGS.

AND SO NOT ONLY WOULD WE NOT HAVE THESE EVENTS, WE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HAVE THE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE CONSIDERED UNFORTUNATE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MATT? DO ALL, UH, FOOD TRUCK VENDORS AND, AND CARS AND STUFF LIKE THAT SOLD THERE FOR THE, FOR THE EVENTS ARE, ARE THEY BEING PAID A FEE FOR PARKING THERE OR FOR SELLING FOOD THERE? UH, YEAH, I BELIEVE THERE IS A FEE THAT IS, UH, A PERMITTING FEE FOR THOSE PARK, FOR THOSE TRUCKS TO BE AT EVENTS.

WHAT DOES THAT HELP SOME? I MEAN, I WOULD THINK RIGHT, IT DOES HELP SOME, BUT THOSE ARE FACTORED INTO THE BUDGET AS WELL.

OKAY.

UM, I'M AND, UH, GREG WAS CURIOUS IF THESE EVENTS COULD BE PUT ON SOLELY WITH THE INCOME THAT THE VENDORS BRING IN, AND I WOULD ASSUME NO.

UH, AT, NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'LL LOOK INTO IN THE FUTURE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S, I HATE TO KEEP SAYING, BUT IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION AS WE KEEP WORKING THROUGH THIS.

UH, BUT, UH, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT.

I WONDER THE CITY LEGALLY BE ABLE TO ACCEPT PRIVATE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM CITIZENS IF THEY WANT TO SEE THESE EVENTS CONTINUE WITH THE HIGHER TAXPAYERS MARKED FOR CASEY.

WE TYPICALLY DON'T TAKE, UH, DONATIONS IN THAT FASHION.

UH, THERE'S, UH, SOME, I WANT TO ACT LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT THERE'S SOME LEGAL RESTRICTIONS AROUND THAT.

BUT THERE ARE, UH, UH, INDIVIDUALLY SPONSORED EVENTS.

IN FACT, WE'RE, YOU'LL, THERE'S ONE NEXT MONDAY, THE LABOR DAY PARADE.

SO THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL GROUPS, THE MLK PARADE'S, ANOTHER

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EXAMPLE THAT CAN COORDINATE TO HAVE AN EVENT PUT ON.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOME REALLY HEAVY LIFTING FOR THE FEW THAT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO OFFSET THE 250,000 HOMES THAT ARE ADHERED TO OR 250,000 RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

UNFORTUNATELY.

AMANDA, ASK SOME IDEAS NOW QUESTIONS, BUT NOT FOR MATT.

FOR ALL US.

YEAH, THE YOU WANNA BRING 'EM UP? YEAH, SURE.

I HAVE THREE IDEAS I CAME UP WITH.

ONE WOULD BE AN ANNUAL ALL RESOURCE AND EMPLOYMENT.

BACK TO MY UNDERSTANDING, MATT TOLD ME EARLIER THAT THEY HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT BILL FAIR, BUT THIS WOULD BE IN ALL ABILITIES.

THE SECOND WOULD BE POSSIBLY A GARLAND DISABILITY FRIENDLY BUSINESS RECOGNITION PROGRAM WOULD BE A BUSINESS THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND TO WORK, FIND, WORK, TRAIN THESE PEOPLE.

UH, THE THIRD WOULD BE AN ANNUAL GOAL AND ALL AUTHORITIES AWARD AT A CITY MEETING WHERE ONE IS RECOGNIZE A RESIDENT, CAREGIVER, EDUCATOR, NON-PROFIT OR BUSINESS IS RECOGNIZED FOR IMPROVING, UH, SOMETHING SIGNIFICANTLY.

THERE'S LITTLE MOTIVATION.

YEAH, NO, I, I I MEAN YOU GOT A COMMUNITY LEADER AWARD, YOU KNOW WHO SCHOOL AWARD MM-HMM .

THIS WOULD BE WONDERFUL TOO.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND, UM, TO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE TAKING THAT INITIATIVE AS WELL.

BUSINESSES.

YES.

UM, I KNOW MCKINNEY HAS SOME BUSINESSES THAT ARE WELL RECOGNIZED.

I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE MORE? OH, I'M SORRY.

UM, I SAID I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT FOR THE BUSINESSES.

UH, THE CITY OF MCKINNEY HAS SEVERAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE WELL KNOWN FOR POPULATIONS TO FAR WITH THE BUSINESSES.

A GREAT POINT TO START WITH BEING WITH THE, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MM-HMM .

BECAUSE I ALSO SIT ON THAT BOARD.

HUH? I ALSO SIT ON THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BOARD.

SO MAYBE PROPOSE THAT CHAIR WE CAN MOVE TO THE FUTURE OF GENETICS.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, SOMETHING I WOULD, YEAH, I, I KIND OF WANTED TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THIS STUFF TOO, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND A FUTURE MEETING, HAVING THE CHAMBER KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT.

'CAUSE THE CHAMBER WOULD BE THE MOST WELL EQUIPPED TO HANDLE PUTTING OUT A BUSINESS RECOGNITION PROGRAM.

, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, DID YOU KNOW THAT DALLAS, UM, THE MAYOR WITH, UM, THE COUNCIL OF DISABILITIES, UM, THEY WON ONE OF THEIR AWARDS, UM, ABOUT 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO, UM, WITH TI SO I COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT LIKE THE DALLAS AND GET AN IDEA AND KIND OF COPY AND CHANGE LIKE WHAT THEY DID AND KIND OF USE THAT SAME IDEA HERE.

THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.

YEAH.

YOU SAID THAT WAS CALLED THE COUNCIL ON DISABILITIES? YEAH, IT WAS THE DALLAS MAYOR.

UM, WITH THE COUNCIL OF DIS SOMETHING.

I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EXACT NAME.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO REBUILD EVERYTHING.

WE CAN TAKE A PAGE OUTTA SOMEBODY ELSE'S BOOK.

.

AWESOME.

SO THOSE, UM, THOSE THINGS CAN BE ADDED TO THE FUTURE OF BUSINESS.

UM, THE ANNUAL BILITIES EMPLOYMENT FAIR, THE AWARD FOR GARLAND BUSINESSES WHO SERVE RESIDENTS, UM, WHO ARE EMPLOYEES.

DID YOU SAY WE COULD BE A CAREGIVER, AN EDUCATOR TO SOMEONE WHO HAS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO TO, TO HELP THESE PEOPLE CREATE A PROGRAM OR BETTER? COULD BE A BUSINESS AND NONPROFIT GROUP.

OKAY.

SO BUSINESS OR ORGANIZATION AND THEN AN INDIVIDUAL AS WELL.

YEAH.

YES MA'AM.

UM, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I HAD FOR FUTURE BUSINESS, UM, Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE TO HELP ME.

WE HAVEN'T HAD BUDDY LEE WHILE I WAS GONE, UH, SPEAK.

AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT A WHILE BACK, HAVING A SPEAKER FROM THE .

WE HAVE THAT GEARED.

YEAH.

I FEEL IF YOU WANT TO, WE CAN WALK THROUGH WHO WE'VE GOT LINED UP AND THEN WHO Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE PLUGGED IN, IN BETWEEN IF YOU'D LIKE.

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SO THE, FROM, UH, LET'S SEE.

LET START FROM THE TOP.

LET SEE, WE'RE AT, SO THE NEXT, AT THE NEXT MEETING, OCTOBER 7TH, I WAS GOING TO INVITE LILY CLARK, OUR HR DIRECTOR TO COME AND TALK ABOUT, UM, HR PROGRAMS THAT WE CURRENTLY OFFER.

BUT THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT POINT TO, UM, GET FEEDBACK AND HAVE HER DISCUSS BACK AND FORTH AND GET MAYBE SOMETHING GOING AND MAYBE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THESE SUB-STUDY COMMITTEES OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT I DO HAVE HER LINED UP FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

AND THAT ALSO COULD BE THE, UH, JOB FAIR COMPONENT THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED MM-HMM .

AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH THOSE AGENDA ITEMS THEN IF YOU WANT ME TO JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE SHE'S BRIEFED ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS.

WE CAN HAVE, UH, ALL THINGS, UH, LABORED IN HR AT THAT MEETING.

YEP, THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, NOVEMBER ON, UH, THE WEBMASTER WITH TIFFANY.

I PROBABLY NEED TO GET WITH TIFFANY ON THAT.

UM, THE WEBMASTER, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A WEBMASTER , SO I NEED TO LOOK THROUGH THAT PIECE, BUT WE MAY, IF Y'ALL WANT, WE COULD GEAR THAT MORE TOWARDS JUST, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION IN GENERAL WITH TIFFANY.

SHE'S OUR PMR DIRECTOR, MANAGING DIRECTOR IF THAT, IF Y'ALL WANTED US TO KEEP 'EM IN THAT SLOT.

BUT WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE IT OFF WEBMASTER TO JUST GENERAL DISCUSSION OF HOW WE IMPROVE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

SO, UH, DECEMBER WE HAVE SLATED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO TALK ALL THINGS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL THEIR PROGRAMS. AND THEN JANUARY IS THE BUDDY LEAGUE WHERE WE HAVE OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR FROM PARSON REC COMING TO DISCUSS THAT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE LINED OUT AS FAR AS STAFF PRESENTATIONS.

BUT IF, IF Y'ALL HAVE OTHER ITEMS, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T JUST HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

IF YOU HAVE OTHER ITEMS, UH, WE CAN TALK TO 'EM ABOUT 'EM NOW AND GET 'EM ON THE, ON THE TABLE.

GOT TONY'S LISTED DOWN.

I THINK WE CAN KNOCK OUT, UH, THE JOB FAIR PORTION ON THAT AND THEN I, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE CHAMBER AND GET THEM ON THE LIST, SEE WHEN THEY CAN COME.

UM, BUT ANY OTHER, UH, WITH ALL THAT, UH, I KNOW WE TALKED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AFTER DAVID SPOKE ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES IN GETTING JOBS, UH, HAVING A SUPPORT FORCE COMMISSION COME OUT AND TELL US WHAT PROGRAMS THEY HAVE THAT THEY CAN OFFER FOR PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT ABILITIES AS FAR AS GETTING EMPLOYED HERE.

YES.

AND UH, WE WERE SHOOTING FOR THAT TO GO IN OCTOBER.

I NEEDED TO CHECK BACK WITH LILY.

WE WERE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THEM, BUT UH, AT THE VERY LEAST WE CAN, WE'LL AT LEAST HAVE CITY OF GARLAND DISCUSSION.

BUT I, WE ARE TRYING TO GET THEM THERE.

IF WE CAN'T, WE'LL WE'LL MAKE SURE WE WORK THAT OUT AT SOME POINT.

OKAY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY NEAT FOR EACH COMMITTEE MEMBER TO BRING A RESOURCE THAT WE EACH SHARE.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY LOVELY THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS LIKE SUPER IN DEPTH CONVERSATION WITH EACH DEPARTMENT.

BUT IF WE HAD ONE, ONE OR TWO MEETINGS KIND OF SPRINKLED HERE AND THERE WHERE WE COULD GET ACCESS TO EIGHT RESOURCES.

SAY WE CUT IT OFF AT, YOU KNOW, 10 MINUTES EACH OR SEVEN MINUTES EACH OF JUST A BRIEF PRIMER OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT MAY INEVITABLY GO IN LIKE OUR HANDBOOK OR, OR WHATEVER WE WORKSHOP THAT NAME.

UM, BUT JUST AN IDEA TO GET KIND OF A TASTE TEST ON IT.

AND THEN IF WE WANTED SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND SPEAK ON IT, WE COULD GET MORE DETAIL.

WOULD Y'ALL BE UP FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? DOES THAT SAME TO OUR COMMITTEE ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION THAT YOU'VE LEARNED ABOUT EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY? WITH ME, I WOULDN'T HAVE.

I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY.

I DEFINITELY WOULD.

AND I DO HAVE SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT.

UH, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT, THERE'S UH, SOMETHING CALLED UH, BE LIKE ME, UH, IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON AND UH, IT'S A PROGRAM, I'VE NOT GONE THROUGH IT YET, BUT PEOPLE CAN UH, GO THROUGH THE PROGRAM.

IT'S JUST LIKE A FEW HOURS AND TALK TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH UH, DIFFERENT ISSUES AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ISSUES FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE LIVED EXPERIENCE.

AND I'M NOT SURE OF COST.

UH, I THINK I COULD PROBABLY GET SOME FEES WAIVED ON IT.

UM, BUT I HAVE IT ON MY CALENDAR TO TALK TO ONE LEGACY WORK THERE.

UH, DOWN THE SCHOOL STARTED BACK UP, WE HAD A MEETING BACK IN JUNE AND HAD DISCUSSED THAT AMONGST THE OTHER THINGS.

YEAH.

IS PHENOMEN

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AND TOMMY, YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD SOMETHING IN MIND OR THAT YOU WOULD BE OPEN? YES.

YES.

I WANT TO TALK TO THIS PERSON FIRST.

NAME IN THE HEAD.

I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT 'EM AND I WANT TO TALK TO THEM FIRST.

RIGHT.

SO THAT WAS THE RICHARDSON BE LIKE ME PROGRAM, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS WE CAN JUST LEAVE THE, TO BE DETERMINED AND JUST WHEN YOU RIGHT.

YES.

SHE JUST BROUGHT IT UP.

YEAH, WE CAN, I, I'LL NEED TO TALK WITH THE CONTACT THERE AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO.

OKAY.

AND MAYBE WE SAW FEBRUARY FOR LIKE INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE MEMBER PRESENTATION.

THAT COULD BE, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND THEN I CAN ALSO FIND OUT TOO, I NEED BOARD MEMBERS WANT ACTUALLY GO THERE.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF GIVE ALL OF SIMPLE GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

ANYTHING ELSE Y'ALL WOULD WANT ON SAY, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER? OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE ITEMS THAT POP UP, JUST SHOOT EITHER COURTNEY, MYSELF OR THE CHAIR EMAIL AND WORK IT IN.

YEAH, I THINK PRIMING LILY AND TIFFANY FOR OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, JUST THAT WHAT WE'RE KIND OF SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENTS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OKAY.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN THE TWO MAIN TOPICS.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE DISCUSSION? I HAVE A WONDERING, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE CITY THAT ALREADY LOOKS AT LIKE ACCESSIBILITY, JUST GENERAL ACCESSIBILITY AROUND THE CITY, LIKE SIDEWALKS AND RAMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YEAH, THERE IS, UH, ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THERE IS AN A DA OFFICER AT THE CITY.

UH, HE ACTUALLY REPORTS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND HIS JOB IS TO, UH, COORDINATE WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, STREETS DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS WHO TYPICALLY THOSE TWO CATEGORIES WAS FACILITIES, DEPARTMENTS.

AND UH, WHAT THEY HANDLE IS ANY REALLY A DA COMPLAINTS AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE AT STILL IN A DA COMPLIANCE.

SO IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN BE, YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE AND PUT IN A FORMAL, UH, REQUEST TO HAVE THAT REVIEWED.

AND, UH, SINCE YOU'RE DUE, WHAT WE, WITH THIS COMMITTEE THAT EARLIER ON, I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE SEGREGATE OURSELVES FROM 80.

NO, NO, JUST, I I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP 'CAUSE IT'S, IT, IT'S SOMETHING I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT AADA A ITEMS THESE INDIVIDUAL ONE-OFFS.

WE HAVE A PROGRAM ESTABLISHED FOR THIS, BUT THE ALL ABILITIES IS MORE OF JUST TRYING TO MAKE THINGS ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT MORE ACCESSIBLE FROM FROM THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD US TALK ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, COMMUNICATION.

UH, WE'RE MEETING OBVIOUSLY MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FROM FEDERAL LAW, BUT WE'RE THIS, WE'RE TRYING TO AMPLIFY WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE OTHER AREAS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT, 'CAUSE WE HAVE THAT PROGRAM.

BUT IF YOU DO HAVE A COM, A COMPLAINT OR AN ISSUE THAT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYWHERE, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE.

IF YOU'D LIKE US TO SEND YOU THE LINK, YOU CAN, UH, FORMALLY PUT THAT IN THERE.

NO, THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

I JUST PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR ME.

SO THANK YOU.

THAT BASELINE IS GOOD, NOT ONLY FOR ITS DEFICIENCIES, BUT SOME OF US MAY NOT KNOW WHAT LEVELING UP IS IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT BASELINE IS.

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AND WE COULDN'T EVEN, WE COULD EVEN PUT ON ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.

NOW I'M THINKING ABOUT IT.

IF Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE AN A DA CONVERSATION, I THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

ANYTHING ELSE IS THE, A DA OFFICER WORKS DIRECTLY FOR THE CITY.

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SO CAN WE INVITE THAT INDIVIDUAL TO COME AND SPEAK MAYBE AFTER FEBRUARY OR CORRECT MARCH OR WHEREVER WE GOT THAT WAS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING INTO IT.

IT WILL BE EITHER HIM OR, UH, UH, I, I JUST NEED TO TALK AND SEE IF IT NEEDS TO BE HIM AND A COMBINATION OF OTHER INDIVIDUALS, LET'S SAY IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THAT HE WORKS CLOSELY WITH.

'CAUSE REALLY WHAT HE DOES IS FILLED IN, TAKE THE INTAKE AND THEN, BUT WHO'S ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND SURVEYING THESE THINGS OR THE ENGINEERS, THE EXPERTS IN THE, IN THE FIELD.

MM-HMM .

IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THAT LIKE BATON TOSS LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE I'M SURE HE'S LIKE THE BEGINNING AND END OF THAT PROCESS.

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OKAY.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE WILL ADJOURN FOR THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MATT.

THANK Y'ALL.

THANK.