* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] ED'S OUTTA TOWN, CHINA. ALRIGHT, WELCOME TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE MEETING. TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2026, AND IT IS 5:01 PM I AM JOINED THIS. I AM MARGARET LUT, AND I'M JOINED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER CARISSA DUTTON. IT'S HARD NOT TO SAY COUNCIL MEMBER HERE, . AND WE WILL JUMP RIGHT IN. FIRST ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JULY 23RD MINUTES. I SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR I. AYE. UH, ITEM TWO, PUBLIC COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANYONE WITH A SPEAKER CARD? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, ITEM THREE, A DISCUSS FORMATION OF A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP CO COALITION. AND THAT WILL COME TO ME. UM, UH, LAST TIME WE DID THE PRESENTATION AND WE SHOWED THE GROUP, UM, KIND OF THE OPTIONS ON DEVELOPING THE COALITION. AND IF YOU RECALL, WE SETTLED ON A CMO LED COALITION WHERE WE WOULD SET UP REGULAR MEETINGS AND, UM, THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE'LL LAUNCH THIS PROGRAM. SO THIS IS KIND OF AN UPDATE ON THE TIMELINE OF GETTING THAT DONE. OKAY. AND SO OUR PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TO LAUNCH THIS IN JANUARY. UM, WE WILL HAVE, STARTING OFF, WE'LL HAVE A SUMMIT IN JANUARY. UH, WE'LL MAKE ALL THE CONTACTS UNTIL THEN AND WE'LL HAVE TWO MICHAELS SPEAKING AT THAT SUMMIT. MICHAEL GARRETT AND MICHAEL BETS. UH, MICHAEL GARRETT'S GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, UH, THE VOLUNTEER GROUPS COORDINATING WITH VOLUNTEER GROUPS, DEALING WITH STARVATION AND DEALING WITH A NUMBER OF ISSUES. SO HE'LL BE A GOOD SPEAKER TALKING AT THAT SUMMIT. AND THEN, UM, MIKE BETS CITY MANAGER MIKE BETS, IS GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW THESE VOLUNTEER GROUPS CAN COORDINATE WITH THE CITY, UH, TO FOCUS TOWARDS THE STRATEGIC PLAN. UH, SO WE CAN KIND OF COORDINATE THE EFFORTS THERE. AND SO WE'LL HAVE THAT SUMMIT IN JANUARY AND ONCE WE WILL, WE'LL GET TO KNOW THE GROUPS AND THEN WE WILL DISCUSS WHAT THE PATTERN WILL LOOK LIKE GOING OVER THE NEXT YEAR AS FAR AS COORDINATED MEETINGS. AND WE PLAN TO DO THAT ONCE A QUARTER, STARTING AFTER THAT SUMMIT. GREAT. UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES CAN DO TO HELP? YOU ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO ATTEND THE MEETING. UM, AND CERTAINLY IF WE'LL, UH, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF ALL THE GROUPS THAT ARE BEING INVITED AND IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL GROUPS THAT WE'VE MISSED, WE CAN DEFINITELY RUN THAT BY THE COMMITTEE. UH, I KNOW THERE'S SO MANY GROUPS OUT THERE, IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH THEM. UM, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE IN A GOOD PATH. FANTASTIC. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE UPDATE. UH, JEFF, BRIAN . WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE B REVIEW OF APPOINTEE EVALUATION CALENDAR. AND I BELIEVE WE ARE JOINED BY MICHAEL BAYES OF CLEAR CAREER PROFESSIONALS. WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK. WE'RE EXCITED TO BE WORKING ON IT. WE, WE'VE, WE'VE MISSED LAST MEETING, UH, LAST MONTH, AND SO WE JUST REALLY WANTED TO CATCH YOU GUYS UP ON KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. UH, WE WENT AHEAD AND STARTED, UH, THE, THE, UH, KIND OF EVALUATION PROCESS. WE'VE MET WITH, UH, ALL APPOINTEES AT THIS POINT. UM, AND WE'RE SCHEDULING THE DIRECT REPORT MEETINGS COMING UP HERE IN THE NEXT, UH, TWO OR THREE WEEK. WE, WE WILL BE DOING THAT. UM, THE APPOINTEES THEMSELVES ACTUALLY FILLED OUT KIND OF A, A SELF PERFORMANCE SURVEY THAT, THAT, UH, WILL BE ATTACHED DIRECTLY TO THE REPORT. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HAVING THE COUNCIL SURVEY GO OUT AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CONTACT COUNCIL DIRECTLY, BUT IF THEY DON'T HAVE TIME, WE JUST WANT THE ADDIT ABILITY TO, UH, ENTER INFORMATION AND DATA. THAT SURVEY WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT. UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL SEND THAT COUNSEL, UH, EMAIL OUT. WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M HOPING FOR IS, UH, KIND OF THE MIDDLE OCTOBER TIMEFRAME. THE SURVEY IS GONNA BE BUILT TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, 20 TO 30 MINUTES TO COMPLETE, BUT IT WILL, IT'LL, UH, ADDRESS EACH POSITION. UH, THE MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGES WILL BE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE, THAN THE OTHER POSITIONS JUST BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DI DIFFERENT INTERACTION WITH THEM THAN YOU DO, YOU KNOW, YOUR OTHER THREE, UH, DIRECT. UM, AND THEN THE, THE OTHER THING THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO CLARIFY TODAY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEMS IS THERE WAS SOME MENTION ABOUT COMPARING, UH, GARLAND AGAINST SOME DIFFERENT CITIES RELATED TO COMPENSATION. UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, BUT REALLY GIVING, GIVING BRIAN THE ABILITY TO GET OUT AND KIND OF START WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE SALARY COMPARISONS, WE NEED THE TIME TO GET THE, THE SURVEY RESULTS BACK ON THAT. SO IS THAT STILL SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DO IS CHANGE THOSE UP OR DO YOU HAVE, UH, I CAN TELL YOU THE CITIES THAT WE USE CURRENTLY AND THEN IF YOU GUYS WANT TO ADD A CITY OR, OR CHANGE THE CITY, WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH. IF [00:05:01] YOU'D LET US KNOW WHAT'S ON THE CURRENT LIST. YEAH. CURRENTLY IT IS ARLINGTON, AUSTIN, CARROLLTON, CORPUS CHRISTI, DALLAS, FORT WORTH, FRISCO, GRAND PRAIRIE, IRVING, LEWISVILLE, MCKINNEY, AND PLANO. I'D LIKE TO ADD LUBBOCK TO THAT. THEY'RE ONE OF THE ONLY OTHER CITIES THAT HAS THE SAME MUNICIPAL, UH, UTILITIES THAT WE DO. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT, THAT, UM, MADE A DIFFERENCE. YEAH. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER CITIES WE'RE COMPARING TO THAT, UM, MAYBE YOU LET, LET US KNOW HOW THEY, LIKE SIZE WISE, EMPLOYEE SIZE, UM, KIND OF LIKE HOW THEY ALSO COMPARE THAT WAY TO US. OKAY. UM, SO THAT WAY IT'S, EVEN IF IT'S NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON, WE AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO US VERSUS, OR, OR HOW FAR THEY ARE. UM, AS FAR AS LIKE OUR STRUCTURE GOES. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AND WE CAN KIND OF FLAG SOME OF THAT FOR YOU TOO IN, IN THE REPORT WHERE YOU GUYS CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF THE DIFFERENT RARE, UM, DEFINITELY CITY POPULATION AND ORGANIZATION SIZE AND IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER, IF THEY HAVE ANY MUNICIPAL UTILITIES. I, LUBBOCK IS THE ONLY ONE I CAN THINK OF, LIST THAT WELL, AUSTIN HAS THEIR OWN UTILITY YEAH. AS WELL. SAN ANTONIO DOES AS WELL ALSO, RIGHT? UM, NOT BE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UNDER THE CITY OF TON'S IS EITHER. I THINK SAN ANTONIO MIGHT BE A STRONG MAYOR ACTUALLY. UM, YEAH. AND, AND IF IT'S, IF THE GOVERNING BODY DOESN'T MATCH OURS, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S A, A REASONABLE COMPARISON TO MAKE IT AT ALL. OKAY. UM, UM, YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD LUBBOCK AND KINDA MAKE SURE THOSE CATEGORIES ARE, ARE HIGHLIGHTED AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, DEFINITELY ADDRESS THE, THE REPORT MORE AND MORE TO CONSTANTLY MAKE IT OR TO READ. UH, STILL THE IDEA IS TO, UM, ON THE SCHEDULE TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR MM-HMM . UH, ONE FOR THE THREE APPOINTEES. AND, UM, SO I THINK WE'RE ALL ON TRACK TO, TO MEET, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT SCHEDULE WITHOUT CHANGING THAT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE, THE ONLY OTHER PIECE OF THIS THAT, THAT WE NEED IS, UM, IS DO YOU GUYS STILL WANT US TO SHARE LIKE WHEN TYPICALLY LAST YEAR WE GOT THE DRAFT REPORT READY, BUT BEFORE IT GOT ISSUED TO COUNCIL, WE, WE HAD A DRAFT KIND OF DISCUSSION WITH THE APPOINTEES SO THAT THEY KNEW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF WAS IN THE REPORT SO THEY COULD BE PREPARED GUYS. UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. UM, I MEAN, THE DRAFT ISN'T GOING AS LONG AS THE DRAFT DOESN'T CHANGE. YEAH. UH, BASED ON THOSE MEETINGS. RIGHT. UM, THEN I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE. YEAH. YEAH. THE, THE BENEFIT TO IT BETWEEN FIRST YEAR WE DID IT AND THEN WHEN WE DID THAT LAST YEAR WAS THEY, I THINK THE, THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE, THE APPOINTEE COUNCIL WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE FRUITFUL BECAUSE THEY, IF THEY WANTED TO PREPARE NOTES, FOR INSTANCE, IF COUNCIL, I THINK LAST YEAR HAD A QUESTION ON CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, THEY WERE ABLE TO COME WITH SOME, SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY'D BEEN DOING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND KIND OF WORD. SO THE DISCUSSION WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE FRUITFUL FOR THEM AS OPPOSED TO IF YOU GUYS JUST, YOU KNOW, PRESENT IT TO 'EM ON, ON SCENE, THEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH WAIT, YOU KNOW, YEAH. LET ME GET BACK TO YOU. WHICH THEN KIND OF DELAYS SOME OF THOSE THINGS. BUT YEAH, THE, THE REPORT WILL BE JUST IN DRAFT FORM AND, AND IT'S IN DRAFT ONLY IN THE SENSE THAT, UM, WE'LL COME BACK TO A SC RIGHT AROUND THAT SAME TIME TO SHOW YOU GUYS THE REPORT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE HITTING ALL THE MARKS THAT YOU GUYS WANT US TO. UM, AND IF YOU, IF YOU NEED US TO CHANGE SOMETHING FROM THAT AND GIVE US DIRECTION, WE'LL HAPPILY DO THAT FOR, FOR THIS COMMITTEE. UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S NOT A, A CHANGE ANALYSIS FOR, AND UM, FOR STAFF NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, KIND OF GET COUNSEL UP TO DATE BEFORE WE MEET WITH THEM ON THE APPOINTEE EVALUATIONS, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE NEW COUNSEL MEMBERS AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS YET. UM, I'D LIKE TO WALK THEM THROUGH, UH, JUST A GENERAL, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND, UM, AND I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THEM BEFORE WE HIT THEM WITH HOURS OF APPOINTEE EVALUATIONS. YEAH. SO DO YOU WANNA GET THAT ON THE WORK SESSION ITEM? I WOULD WITH, WITH, UH, MICHAEL SPEAKING. UM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE HERE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO BE HERE FOR IT. UM, BUT I JUST WANNA GIVE COUNSEL SOME INSTRUCTION. I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR HIM TO BE HERE JUST TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT THEY DO. OKAY. UM, SO THAT WAY THE NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE HAVE A FULL VIEW OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS. [00:10:01] UM, SOMETIMES I, I THINK IT HELPS, YOU KNOW, THE FULL SCOPE OF HOW IT WORKS AND WHY IT WORKS. YEAH. UM, YEAH. INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO GUESS, I'D BE HAPPY TO BE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY, GREAT. YEAH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT MIGHT FLOW REALLY WELL ANYWAYS. 'CAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF JUST RECEIVING THE SURVEY AND KIND OF AN, AN EMAIL EXPLANATION AND WE'LL GET A CALL AND STUFF, I CAN, YOU KNOW, UM, AND, AND, AND REALLY THE SURVEY'S, YOU KNOW, DEEPEST BUILD OUT IS, IS SO THEY'RE NOT SPENDING A TON OF TIME ON THAT REALLY. I, THEY, IF THEY CAN MEET WITH ME VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON OR EVEN A PHONE CALL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY GREAT WAY TO GET A LOT OF IT WAS JUST THAT THAT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE SOMETIMES GETTING ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO THAT. WE CAN CALL 'EM OUT DURING THE MEETING. YEAH. . YEAH. JUST KIDDING. YEAH. NO, NOT JUST KIDDING. WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. YOU CAN GIMME A LIST AND I'LL CALL 'EM OUT . UM, AND CAN WE JUST MAKE SURE THIS YEAR THAT WE'VE GOT ALL OF THE INFORMATION PER APPOINTEE TOGETHER. YEAH. UM, AND SO, AND I THINK, I THINK WE DID THAT LAST YEAR. UM, YEAH. WE PUT IT TOGETHER. YEAH. I I I STILL THINK THE, UH, THE COMPENSATION PIECE FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND KIND OF JUST A SELF REVIEW WAS STILL A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING MM-HMM . EVEN THOUGH IT WAS WITH THE, WITH THE ACTUAL POSITION THAT IT WAS GOING WITH. YEAH. SO WE, WE'LL STRIVE TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO READ AND KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, AND NOT THAT YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE THE DEPTH TO GET IT, IT IS JUST IN, IN THAT QUICK MOMENT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION IS WE, WE GET A LOT OF INFORMATION, UM, IN THAT YEAR FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. UM, SO I CAN GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL PROBABLY ALL HAVE AMNESIA ON WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR. YEAH. UM, SO I, I, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D ALSO LIKE WHEN YOU DO THE, THE COMPENSATION PART JUST A LITTLE, UM, UM, FROM THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN THIS OVER. YEAH. UM, SO THAT WE'VE GOT, WELL WHAT DID WE DO LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT MM-HMM . UM, SO THAT THERE'S JUST, IT'S AN EASY WAY TO COMPARE EVEN BESIDES JUST THE SALARY PART MM-HMM . UM, LIKE WHAT WERE THE EXTRAS? 'CAUSE I THINK LAST YEAR WE KIND OF STRUGGLED WITH THAT WAS WELL WHAT DID WE DO FOR, YOU KNOW, EACH LITTLE INDIVIDUAL THING? SO ABSOLUTELY. IF WE HAVE THAT, UM, JUST AS A QUICK LITTLE LOOK AT, THAT'D BE VERY VISUAL AS WELL. YEAH. AND A BLANK SPACE FOR US TO WRITE NUMBERS DOWN FOR THIS YEAR. AND I MAY MAKE THAT A TEAR OUT SHEET BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES AT THE END OF THAT, YOU GUYS ARE HANDING THAT BACK, UM, BOOK BACK TO ME. I MEAN, THEY'RE FREE TO KEEP IT, BUT I GUESS JUST, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL KEEP IT SO THAT YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK. YEAH. BUT IF WE, IF WE PUT THE TEAR OUT SHEET IN THERE, IF THEY CHOOSE TO GIVE THE BOOK BACK, THEN I, THEY CAN JUST TEAR THAT NOTE SHEET OUT. THAT'LL WORK. THAT'S FINE WITH ME. SO THAT THEY HAVE KIND OF AN OPTION. I WANNA PROVIDE AS MANY OPTIONS AS I CAN. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT A PERSON'S, UH, AND THEN, UM, ONE OTHER QUESTION. DO WE GET WITH OUR FINANCIAL PEOPLE OR CAN WE GET WITH OUR FINANCIAL PEOPLE TO JUST VERIFY WHAT COUNCIL OR WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO, UM, FINANCIALLY WHAT IS FEASIBLE? UM, 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE FIRST YEAR THAT YOU GUYS WERE WITH US, WE KIND OF, WE DIDN'T HAVE, AND IT'S NOT ON YOU GUYS AT ALL, IT WAS A CITY MANAGEMENT. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT OUR FINANCIAL, UH, SITUATION LOOKED LIKE. AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE HAD SOME KIND OF DIRECTION ON FINANCIALLY WHAT IS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, THE, THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE SITUATION AND WE AGREED, OH YEAH, LET'S HIRE A THIRD. UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT IT WAS LIKE, OH, WELL. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT US IN THAT SITUATION AGAIN WHERE WE ARE, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH SOMEONE. OH YEAH, WE'LL HELP, WE'LL HELP. LIKE THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. LIKE, LET'S DO THAT. AND THEN JUST TO LATER BE LIKE, UH, YEAH, WELL BASICALLY WE JUST LIED TO BECAUSE WE CANNOT DO THAT. UM, SO I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF REALITY OF UM, DO YOU WANT THAT AT THAT PIECE, AT THE ENDING OF THIS OR AT WHEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS COME OUT OR AT, I THINK SHE MEANS TO HAVE, HAVE SOMEONE FROM FINANCE HERE DURING, OR EVEN JUST TO LET US KNOW, LIKE, THIS IS, THIS IS YOUR BUDGET. RIGHT. [00:15:01] OR YOU KNOW, LIKE, OR EVEN IF, EVEN IF IT'S TO DISCUSS WITH FINANCE, UM, BEFORE WE FINALIZE, IF WE CAN HAVE ALLISON YEAH, WE CAN HAVE ALLISON HERE THE NIGHT, THE NIGHT OF THE REVIEWS. WE CAN HAVE ALLISON HERE, UH, THE NIGHT OR THE, UH, FOR OUR, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION PRIOR TO THAT. UH, UH, IT'S A PERSONNEL MATTER. SO YOU, IF YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT PERSONNEL MATTERS TO FIND OUT WELL WHAT FUNDING'S AVAILABLE, I CAN CERTAINLY ASK ALLISON TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT. SO IF YOU LOOK AND SEE WHEN THIS, THE REVIEWS ARE SCHEDULED, BRING HER HERE THE PRIOR, PRIOR WEEK AND SHE CAN TALK IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH THE COUNSEL ABOUT WHAT FUNDING'S AVAILABLE AND LET'S, UM, MAKE THAT WAY. ALLISON ISN'T HERE UNTIL WHAT, TWO O'CLOCK I THINK IS WHEN WE FINISH LAST TWO O'CLOCK. 'CAUSE SHE STILL HAS A LITTLE BABY. GOT IT. DO YOU HAVE ALL THE APPOINTEE CONTRACTS? YES. OKAY. CAN WE GET A COPY OF APPOINTEE CONTRACTS, EVEN IF IT'S JUST THE COMMITTEE? UM, WILL YOU GET THEM FOR I CAN GET 'EM TO YOU. YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AFTER Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN TO, UH, TO COME BACK IN OCTOBER FOR THE FILE. BRIAN WILL BE HERE. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL START MOVING FORWARD WITH, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR BOOK. OH, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. I, I, YOU'LL HAVE TO LET ME KNOW IF IT'S ANY GOOD OR WILL DO. ALRIGHT. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS ADJOURN AT 5:18 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.