[ LEGISLATIVE PRAYER AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
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          OCTOBER 5TH REGULAR MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL. IT IS THE TRADITION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE AN INVOCATION RECITAL OF THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING, LED BY ONE OF OUR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. YOU ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU SO CHOOSE, BUT YOUR DECISION IS STRICTLY YOUR OWN CHOICE AND WILL NOT AFFECT THE DECISIONS TO BE MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN ANY MANNER. TONIGHT'S INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMEMBER LUKE SAM. GOOD EVENING. GARLAND IS STRONGEST WHEN ITS RESIDENTS ARE INVOLVED, WHETHER THAT MEANS SERVING ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, STARTING A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, PARTICIPATING IN A CRIME WATCH GROUP, VOLUNTEERING WITH A NONPROFIT, OR EVEN SPEAKING UP AT A PUBLIC MEETING LIKE THIS. 
          VOTING IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WAYS WE TAKE PART. IN A FEW WEEKS, GARLAND VOTERS WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AT THE BALLOT BOX. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TREAT THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE SERIOUSNESS IT DESERVES. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LEARN WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND WHAT THEY PROPOSE TO DO. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO READ EACH PROPOSITION AND FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD CHANGE, AND CONSIDER WHO IT WOULD AFFECT BEFORE WE CAST OUR VOTE. IT IS ALSO OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SEEK OUT RELIABLE INFORMATION, QUESTION WHAT WE HEAR, AND RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORS. WE EACH HAVE DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS IN GOOD FAITH AND MAY THE DECISIONS MADE IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT REFLECT THE SAME CARE, HONES, AND RESPECT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WE HOPE EVERY VOTER BRINGS TO THE POLLS IN NOVEMBER. THANK YOU. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. VERY GOOD. I KNOW IT'S OVER, BUT NO. WITNESSES. ASKED FOR THE PARCEL TRACKING NUMBER THAT YOU. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, GARLAND. AND TONIGHT, BEING THE 
          [ MAYORAL PROCLAMATIONS, RECOGNITIONS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]
FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH, WE HAVE OUR PET OF THE MONTH. WHO DO WE HAVE WITH US HERE TODAY? MY FAVORITE PART. HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS ALBERTO MALDONADO. I'M THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATOR HERE AT THE SHELTER AT THE CITY OF GARLAND. AND TODAY I HAVE CAPTAIN. CAPTAIN HAS HAD QUITE A DAY TODAY. AS YOU CAN SEE, HE'S JUST KIND OF DONE WITH EVERYBODY. BUT I WILL SAY THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE WE SPENT ALL MORNING AT FOX FOUR TODAY GETTING HIS HEADSHOTS IN GETTING HIS TIME IN, BECAUSE WE GOT TO BE A PART OF THE TEN SEGMENT, WHICH IS THEY DO A SEGMENT CALLED A NEW LEASE ON LIFE, AND THEY GET TO PROMOTE THEM ALL OVER THE DFW METROPLEX AREA. AND I WILL SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE DOG THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUT THERE HAS HAD A 100% SUCCESS RATE ON ADOPTION. SO LET'S ALL PRAY THAT TONIGHT, CAPTAIN GETS ADOPTED BEFORE WE EVEN WALK OUT. BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM. HE IS A TWO YEAR OLD TWO YEAR OLD DOG O. CAPTAIN, COME HERE. OKAY. STAND UP. THERE WE GO. THAT'S BETTER. I HAVE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YES. SO, CAPTAIN IS A TWO YEAR OLD MIXED BREED, OR AS WE LIKE TO CALL IT, A GARLAND SPECIAL. WE LIKE TO THINK THAT HE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF HUSKY IN HIM BECAUSE HE HAS A HALF BLUE, HALF BROWN EYE. REALLY NEAT ABOUT HIM. HE IS A NEUTERED MALE. HE'S UP TO DATE ON ALL HIS VACCINES AND BECAUSE HE IS PET OF THE MONTH, HE IS. HIS ADOPTION IS COMPLETELY WAIVED. AND FREE DOESN'T MEAN TOTALLY FREE. IT COMES WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS LIKE YOU HAVE TO WALK HIM, YOU HAVE TO BATHE HIM. YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS, TRAIN HIM ALL THE FUN STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO DO. BUT I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHO DOESN'T LOVE CAPTAIN? IF YOU GUYS WATCH THE VIDEO THAT I DID WITH HIM NOT THAT LONG AGO, HE HAS A CAPTAIN'S VOICE, BOY. BUT YES, IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED, PLEASE COME CHECK US OUT THIS WEEKEND. 
          ALSO, WE'RE DOING FREE ADOPTIONS AT THE SHELTER THANKS TO THE ASPCA AND ALSO ON WEDNESDAY. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY PETS AND YOU GUYS NEED THEM, GET THEM VACCINATED, MICROCHIPPED, OR UP TO DATE ON ANY OF THE VACCINES. WE'RE HAVING A LOW COST VACCINE CLINIC AT THE SHELTER FROM 1 TO 6 P.M. YOU CAN GET RABIES DISTEMPER FREE FOR CATS AND MICROCHIPS, ALL FOR $10. SO PLEASE COME CHECK US OUT. COME CHECK OUT CAPTAIN. AND IF NOT, WE HAVE ABOUT 260 OTHER ANIMALS AT THE SHELTER. COME CHECK THOSE OUT. THANK YOU. COME ON. 
          CATHY. OKAY. COME ON. CAPTAIN. ALL RIGHT. CITY COUNCIL. RECENTLY, WE LOST A MEMBER OF 
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OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAS BEEN A PILLAR OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND WE WANT TO TAKE A SPECIAL TIME RIGHT NOW TO HONOR HIM WITH A WITH A PROCLAMATION. SO I'D BE HONORED IF HIS FAMILY WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME FOR THIS. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION HONORING THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF THE HONORABLE BILLY JOE BJ WILLIAMS. WHEREAS THE CITY OF GARLAND MOURNS THE PASSING OF THE HONORABLE BJ WILLIAMS, A RESPECTED PUBLIC SERVANT, COMMUNITY LEADER, MENTOR, AND LONGTIME ADVOCATE WHOSE LIFE WAS MARKED BY AN UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO SERVICE, INTEGRITY AND THE BETTERMENT OF HIS COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS MR. WILLIAMS DEVOTED MANY YEARS TO SERVING THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND AS A MEMBER OF THE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD, CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION FROM 22,002 TO 2008, AND LATER AS A DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL FROM 2012 TO 2018 AND AGAIN FROM NOVEMBER 2020 THROUGH MAY 2026. THROUGHOUT HIS SERVICE, HE LED WITH CONVICTION AND COMPASSION, ADVOCATING FOR STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS, SOUND INFRASTRUCTURE, RESPONSIBLE GROWTH, AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT GARLAND. AND WHEREAS MR. WILLIAMS EXTENDED HIS COMMITMENT TO MUNICIPAL LEADERSHIP BEYOND GARLAND THROUGH HIS SERVICE ON THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY COMMITTEE FROM 2013 TO 2014 AND THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES COMMITTEE FROM 2014 TO 2018, REPRESENTING THE INTERESTS OF GARLAND AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION. AND WHEREAS HIS DEDICATION TO SERVICE WAS DEEPLY ROOTED IN COMMUNITY, INCLUDING HIS LONG STANDING INVOLVEMENT OF MOUNT PISGAH MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN RICHARDSON, HIS LIFE MEMBERSHIP IN OMEGA PSI PHI FRATERNITY INCORPORATED, AND HIS LEADERSHIP AS PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP GARLAND UNIT FROM 1996 TO 2010. AND WHEREAS, MR. WILLIAMS BELIEVED THAT LEADERSHIP MEANT CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS TO SUCCEED, AND THROUGH HIS CIVIC INVOLVEMENT, MENTORSHIP AND PERSONAL EXAMPLE, HE ENCOURAGED GENERATIONS OF RESIDENTS AND YOUNG PEOPLE TO BECOME ENGAGED, SERVE THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND MAKE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE IN THEIR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, MR. WILLIAMS WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR NOT ONLY THE OFFICES HE HELD, BUT ALSO FOR THE CHARACTER WITH WHICH HE SERVED HIS WISDOM, COURAGE, KINDNESS, STEADFAST LEADERSHIP, AND WILLINGNESS TO SPEAK WITH PURPOSE ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE HE REPRESENTED. NOW, THEREFORE, I, DYLAN HEDRICK, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE LE AND LEGACY OF THE HONORABLE BJ WILLIAMS AND EXPRESS OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES, DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY, FRIENDS, COLLEAGUES AND ALL WHO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING AND SERVING ALONGSIDE HIM. WE RECOGNIZE WITH PROFOUND GRATITUDE HIS EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY OF GARLAND AND CELEBRATE A LIFE DEVOTED TO FAITH, FAMILY, COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANKS AGAIN FOR BEING WITH US HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO TAKE THAT MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE BJ. HE'S A GREAT FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE AND WILL 
          [ CONSENT AGENDA]
CERTAINLY MISS HIM. MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA. THE FIRST WILL MOVE FIRST WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL ITEMS UNDER THE SECTION ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY A SINGLE MOTION OF COUNCIL WITHOUT DISCUSSION. COUNCIL HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW EACH OF THESE ITEMS AT A PREVIOUS WORK SESSION, AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE EACH ITEM. I WILL ANNOUNCE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL, AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE, TO REQUEST THAT ANY ITEM BE REMOVED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. AND I WILL BE PULLING ITEM NUMBER NINE AS THE 
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CONFIRMATION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT WEINBERG AS CHIEF OF POLICE. 
          I'LL READ NOW THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026 REGULAR MEETING. ITEM NUMBER TWO APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING BIDS TO A APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER FOR HVAC SERVICES TO BE JACK COLEMAN TENNIS CENTER RESURFACING TWO C, G, P AND L FIRE WILL TAP TESTING AND COMMISSIONING TO D LANDFILL ADMINISTRATION REMODEL AND ENTRY SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TO E CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWARD FOR 2026. ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS. GROUP TWO RECONSTRUCTION TO F UTILITY AND PAVING IMPROVEMENTS. 
          COLLINGWOOD NUTMEG AND CAT HALL TO G IS G, P AND L MAKI TO PACE TRANSMISSION LINE. ENGINEERING SERVICES TO H, G, P AND L MARQUIS SUBSTATION TERMINAL ENGINEERING SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE PREVIOUSLY CONDUCTED FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONING CASES. 
          COUNCIL APPROVED THE ZONING REQUEST AND INSTRUCTED STAFF TO BRING FORTH THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES. THREE A IS CASE Z 2622 LONE STAR GREEN HOMES IN DISTRICT THREE. ITEM THREE B IS CASE Z 2625 ZONE DEV IN DISTRICT THREE. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS THE 2027 ANNUAL COUNCIL CALENDAR. ITEM FIVE IS PROPOSED RENAMING OF JACK COLEMAN TENNIS CENTER. ITEM SIX IS ELECTRIC UTILITY REVENUE REFUNDING BONDS SERIES 2026, A ITEM SEVEN IS GARLAND HOUSING AGENCIES ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN. ITEM EIGHT IS LIBRARY STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE ITEM NINE I'M PULLING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM TEN IS TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SELECTIVE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM 2027 COMPREHENSIVE GRANT. AN ITEM 11 IS 2025 HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM. PROGRAM RESOLUTION. COUNSEL. IS THERE ANY ITEMS YOU WISH TO HAVE PULLED SEPARATELY? IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO HAVE AN ITEM PULLED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE. COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. THANK YOU. MAYOR. 
          I MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCLUSION OF ITEM NINE. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. ANY DISCUSSION? MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US. THAT ITEM IS APPROVED 8 TO 0 AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL NOT BE JOINING US TONIGHT. SHOULD MENTION THE TOP. SHE WILL NOT BE HERE. THAT ITEM 
          [9. Confirmation of the City Manager's Appointment of Scott Vornberg as Chief of Police]
IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. NOW BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN OR EXCUSE ME, NUMBER NINE. 
          CONFIRMATION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT WEINBERG AS CHIEF OF POLICE. I PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LOST IN JUST THE GENERAL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHEN WE APPOINT A NEW POLICE CHIEF TO RECOGNIZE IT, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE GOOD WORK THAT HE'S DONE AS INTERIM POLICE CHIEF, TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS WORK, HIS MANY YEARS OF SERVICE AND HIS WISH HIM CONTINUED SUCCESS AS OUR NEW PERMANENT POLICE CHIEF AND MR. CITY MANAGER. YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU. TONIGHT, I ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONFIRM CONFIRM MY APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT THORNBURG AS THE PERMANENT CHIEF OF THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT. CHIEF THORNBURG STEPPED INTO THE INTERIM ROLE IN JULY, AND SINCE THAT TIME, HE HAS LED THE DEPARTMENT WITH STEADINESS, PROFESSIONALISM AND A CLEAR COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. HE DIDN'T TREAT THE JOB AS A PLACEHOLDER. HE LED FROM DAY ONE. OVER THESE PAST MONTHS, I'VE LISTENED TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, FROM OUR COMMUNITY, LEADERS, FROM RESIDENTS ACROSS OUR CITY, AND I'VE HEARD FROM THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE MESSAGE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT. 
          CHIEF THORNBURG HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB, AND THAT MATTERS TO ME BECAUSE THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAS TO EARN THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE CONFIDENCE OF THE OFFICERS WHO SERVE IT, AND HE HAS EARNED BOTH, AND I'M CONFIDENT HE'LL BE AN EXCELLENT CHIEF. I'M PROUD TO MAKE THIS APPOINTMENT, AND I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONFIRM THAT APPOINTMENT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE, MA'AM. I JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY BIG DEAL. RIGHT. WE WERE GOING TO SLIDE IT IN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO THANK YOU, DYLAN, FOR PULLING IT. SO LEADERSHIP ISN'T JUST 
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ABOUT WEARING THE BADGE OR HOLDING A TITLE. IT'S ABOUT EARNING THAT TRUST, SHOWING UP WHEN IT MATTERS THE MOST, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERY DECISION THAT YOU MAKE AFFECTS THE REAL PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT LEADERSHIP FIRSTHAND. WE'VE SEEN SOMEONE WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT OUR OFFICERS, OUR DEPARTMENT, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. BEING A POLICE CHIEF ISN'T AN EASY JOB. IT REQUIRES COURAGE, COMPASSION, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE ABILITY TO LEAD THROUGH BOTH GOOD DAYS AND BAD DAYS. AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH ME. SO I APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME. I BELIEVE THAT OUR NEW POLICE CHIEF HAS DEMONSTRATED THESE QUALITIES, AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THIS NEXT CHAPTER MEANS FOR THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT. I ALSO FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY IF I DIDN'T SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE NINTH STREET BOXING GYM. THE. THE BEST POLICE CHIEFS. 
          DON'T JUST THINK ABOUT HOW WE RESPOND TO CALLS AND CRIME. THEY THINK ABOUT HOW WE BUILD A COMMUNITY WHERE OUR KIDS HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, WHERE OUR NEIGHBORS, WHERE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FEEL CONNECTED, AND PEOPLE TRUST THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE THEM. CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND ACCEPTING THE RESPONSIBILITY. AND THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING OUR OFFICERS AND OUR COMMUNITY. AND MATT IS VERY SAD THAT HE CAN'T BE HERE TO TAKE PHOTOS BECAU HE WANTS HE'S READY TO MAKE IT FACEBOOK OFFICIAL. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, CHIEF, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHERE WHERE YOU LEAD US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER LUCK YES I MOTION. 
          WE APPROVE THE CONFIRMATION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT WEINBERG AS CHIEF OF POLICE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN? I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. 
          I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM. SO, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US. THAT ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS. AND I MUST MENTION ALSO THANK YOU TO ALL THE SHOW OF SUPPORT FROM HIS POLICE FORCE AS WELL. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. WE'LL NOW 
          [a. Consider a request by Rock Ink Tattoos, requesting approval of a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for a Tattooing/Body Piercing Establishment use on property zoned Downtown (DT) – Uptown Sub-District and Downtown Automotive Overlay District (DAO). The site is located at 316 Main Street. ]
MOVE ON TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. OUR FIRST ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FOLLOWING ZONING CASE. THIS IS ITEM 12 A CONSIDER A REQUEST BY ROCK INK TATTOOS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION SUP FOR A TATTOOING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT. USE ON PROPERTY ZONED DOWNTOWN, UPTOWN DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN AUTOMOTIVE OVERLAY DISTRICT. THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 316 MAIN STREET. AND MADAM SECRETARY, BEFORE WE HEAR THIS CASE, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ OUR SPEAKER GUIDELINES? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IS GIVEN TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY RATHER THAN TO QUESTION THE CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF. THE CHAIR MAY CALL A SPEAKER OUT OF ORDER AT. 
          THE SPEAKER PRESENTS QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION THAT WILL UNDULY DELAY THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS. AT THE MEETING, SPEAKERS SHALL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED BASIS, AS DETERMINED BY THE ORDER IN WHICH THE CITY SECRETARY RECEIVES THE SPEAKERS INFORMATION. APPLICANTS ARE ALLOWED TEN MINUTES FOR PRESENTATIONS, AND ALL OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WHEN THE PODIUM BUZZER SOUNDS, THE SPEAKER MUST END THEIR COMMENTS, WISH TO SPEAK AND HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY? PLEASE GO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD BY THE CITY SECRETARY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR, AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR TATTOOING, BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT AND ITS ASSOCIATED CONCEPT PLAN. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THIS BUSINESS IS CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THAT SAME LOCATION, HOWEVER, IN A DIFFERENT SUITE. 
          ORIGINALLY, THE SUP WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2016 FOR THREE YEARS, THEN IN 2019 FOR TEN YEARS. SO THE CURRENT SUP STILL HAS THREE YEARS TO GO WITH THIS. WE'RE THE WHAT THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO DO IS TRANSFER THAT TO GO TO A BIGGER SWEET, SWEET WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING. AS MENTIONED, LOCATION IS 316 MAIN STREET, 0.24 ACRES LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN UPTOWN SUB DISTRICT. 
          HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING MAP. IT IS SURROUNDED BY OUR DOWNTOWN. IT'S VERY CLOSE FROM FROM THIS BUILDING AS WELL. WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH WITH THAT AREA AND THAT BUILDING. 
          THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THIS AREA OUT AS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS. NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES. THIS CENTER SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY SCALED TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THE TATTOO BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN 
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DOWNTOWN FOR FOR A WHILE, AND HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE VIBRANCY OF THE DOWNTOWN. WE DON'T WANT TO ESTABLISH THAT A TATTOO BUSINESS IN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS IS APPROPRIATE, BUT AT THIS LOCATION, FOR THIS BUILDING, WE CONSIDER THAT TO BE KEEPING UP WI THE COMP PLAN CATEGORY. IN THIS CONTEXT. HERE'S THE SITE PHOTO. YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING INTO. THE SUITE 200, WHICH HAS A RESIDENTIAL UNIT UP TOP, AND THE TATTOO ARTIST INTENDS TO LIVE ON THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT THAT IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR. HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN. OF COURSE, THERE'S NOTHING MUCH. THIS KIND OF DEPICTS WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. THE PARKING NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE MET FOR NOW WITH THE ADJACENT LOT, BUT IT'S UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP. WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT IS ADDING TWO PLANTERS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND AN ARTWORK. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE ART PIECE. I'LL LET THE APPLICANT EXPLAIN WHAT THE INSPIRATION FOR THAT ART PIECE IS. BUT AS STAFF, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO SEE ART COMING INTO DOWNTOWN AND BEING INTEGRATED WITH BUSINESSES. THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING TEN YEARS. OUR SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINE RECOMMENDS 5 TO 8 YEARS. WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR FIVE YEARS. WITH THE LIMITED SCOPE OF THIS PROPOSAL, WE HAVE ARRANGED IT IN A WAY. WE HAVE WRITTEN THE CONDITIONS SO THAT ONCE THE S P, IF APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, MOVES ON TO THE BIGGER SUITE, THE FORMER SUP WILL TERMINATE WITHIN 30 DAYS. 
          THAT THAT WAY WE'RE PROTECTING THE CITY AND THE BUILDING FROM HAVING ANOTHER TATTOO NEXT TO IT. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A SECTION THAT DOESN'T ALLOW TATTOO SHOPS TO BE NEXT TO EACH OTHER. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. AND THEN AGAIN, TWO POTTED PLANTERS AND THE EXTERIOR ARTWORK WILL BE LOCATED IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE FROM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 11 A.M. TO 11 P.M. SUNDAYS WILL BE CLOSED. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR FIVE YEARS. SINCE THIS IS IN IN AN F A IN DOWNTOWN. IN THE DOWNTOWN PER GARLAND ON THE RISE. WE THOUGHT FIVE YEARS IS MORE ON THE SAFER SIDE BECAUSE IT LETS US REEVALUATE IN A IN A SHORTER TIME FRAME, NOT TOO SHORT, BUT IN FIVE YEARS TO SEE IF THE BUSINESS IS STILL WORKING WELL WITH THE PROGRESS OF DOWNTOWN. WE MAILED OUT 68 LETTERS. WE GOT ONE, BUT THAT'S FROM ONE IN OPPOSITION. THAT'S FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. HI, MR. HOW LONG HAS ROCK INC BEEN OPERATING AT THIS LOCATION? SINCE 2016, FROM WHAT I BELIEVE. 
          SO TEN YEARS. SO WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO PROBABLY OPERATE FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS. I, I FEEL LIKE A TATTOO USE IS APPROPRIATE NEXT TO A DOWNTOWN. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CONTEXT. YES. IN, IN A LITTLE SHOPPING CENTER IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, PROBABLY NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE LATE HOURS, BUT I, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF GIVING THEM AT LEAST TEN YEARS JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR PARTICIPATION IN ART INSTALLATION. I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT'S A CONTINUATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SQUARE AND NIGHTLIFE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HAPPEN. AND, AND IT ACTUALLY EXTENDS THAT NIGHTLIFE PAST THE SQUARE INTO, YOU KNOW, GOING FURTHER OUT, LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, OBVIOUSLY CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION TO PROVIDE TEN YEARS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO STICK WITH THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINES, MAYBE EIGHT YEARS COULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE 5 TO 8 IS THE RANGE FOR THESE KIND OF USES. BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. I'M ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF STICKING WITH OUR SUPUP TIMELINES. MAYBE WE CAN REMEMBER THAT LATER. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHT. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR. MR. SARAH BELLINI. SIR, IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION. HOW ARE YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL? I THINK 
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TEN MINUTES WILL BE A LOT. WHEN WE STARTED THIS, PROBABLY ABOUT 9 OR 10 YEARS AGO, IT WAS A LITTLE FURTHER BACK. I THINK I BRING THIS BACK, THIS TO TO PLANNING. I WAS SAYING THERE WAS A MATTER OF CHANGING PERCEPTIONS. THERE WAS AN IDEA OF TATTOOING BEING THE WORST, LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BRING BIKERS AND CHAINS AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. AND I GUESS AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL TRUSTED ME AND ROCKING TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING AND OPERATE AND DO EVERYTHING UNDER CITY RULES AND EVERYTHING GOOD, YOU KNOW, BE BE A GOOD ASSET TO, TO THE TO THE AREA. THREE YEARS AFTER THAT, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AGAIN AND JUST COMMUNICATE EVERYONE THAT WE WERE DOING GREAT. AND IT WAS GIVEN TO US ANOTHER TEN YEARS, WHICH WE ARE SUPER THANKFUL FOR IT. THROUGH THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO GROW. WE WERE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS AND WE WERE NAMED TOP, TOP BEST THREE SHOPS IN GARLAND SINCE 2021, I BELIEVE, AND THE LAST TWO YEARS WE WERE BEST SHOPPING GARLAND, WHICH I'M VERY PROUD OF AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT LIKE THAT. SO AS SUCH, WE STARTED HAVING OR NEEDING MORE, NEEDING MORE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP GROWING AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CLIENTS BETTER. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY ONE OF YOU HAVE BEEN BEFORE. THE SHOP IS PRETTY TINY. WE ARE A LITTLE CRAMPED IN THERE, SO IT WILL HELP US A LOT TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE ROOM AND JUST CONTINUE TO GROW. CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN. I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO WORK WITH SOME MURALS AND DOING SOME STUFF SOMEWHERE THAT IT'S HANDY. I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ALWAYS HELP TRY TO STICK AROUND, AND I WAS ABLE TO BE PART OF A TWO AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE SUPER GOOD TO LEARN AND TO PARTICIPATE AND JUST. YOU KNOW, HAVE A SHARED TIME WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND MAKE THE AREA GROW. THOSE THINGS THAT WERE VERY POSITIVE FOR ME, FOR THE CAREER, FOR THE SHOP. AND I GUESS WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST FOR THE AREA. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN HAVE A COUPLE MORE YEARS JUST TO BE HERE. I TEN YEARS IS IS A LOT OF TIME. WE FRIENDS WITH EVERYONE IN DOWNTOWN. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND I LOVE THE AREA. I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS. I'M. AND I'M. IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I WOULD LIKE TO STAY THERE UNTIL I RETIRE. 
          HOPEFULLY I CAN STILL TATTOO AND SEE ENOUGH TO DO IT. OH VERY GOOD. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. AS A CLIENT OF ROCKINGHAM, IT IS VERY, VERY SMALL IN THERE. SO I WILL LOVE TO SEE YOU IN A BIGGER SPACE. I'M ALSO A FAN OF AN 8 TO 10 YEAR SUP ON THIS ONE. AND I DON'T KW IF ANYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT BUILDING. IT IS HAUNTED AND HE STILL HAS STUCK IT OUT THIS LONG IN THAT SAME SPOT, AND NOW YOU WANT TO MOVE INTO IT. SO I FEEL LIKE I FEEL LIKE YOU, YOU GET SOME EXTRA POINTS FOR THAT. ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVENTUALLY IS A VERY BIG, GAUDY VINTAGE SIGN OUT FRONT. I SAY GAUDY, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE A HOW JIMMY WALLACE'S SIGN IS. IT'S A LITTLE GAUDY, RIGHT? BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT OUTSIDE OF YOUR LOCATION BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT ONE, YOU DESERVE IT. 
          BUT ALSO IT KIND OF IT BRINGS IN THE REST OF THE DOWNTOWN FEEL. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN YOUR BACK POCKET. I AM 100% IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS SUP FOR YOU GUYS. AND YOU HAVE DONE AMAZING WORK. YOU CONTINUE TO DO GREAT WORK. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS SIR, DO YOU OWN THIS BUILDING, SIR? NO I DON'T, AND SO DO YOU HAVE A CURRENT LEASE? HOW DO YOU HOW ARE YOU? SORRY? DO YOU HAVE A LEASE OR YOU, MR. MAYOR, HAVE A LEASE? YES, SIR. 
          YES, SIR. MR. ATTORNEY, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S RELEVANT TO WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE OR NOT. WHETHER HE LEASES OR OWNS IT. WE GENERALLY TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THOSE TOPICS. 
          OKAY, I'LL WITHDRAW THAT QUESTION. THE THERE WAS A SLIDE THERE, ART PICTURES FOR REFERENCE, AND SHE SAID YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT ART PIECE. I'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT. I NEED SOME HELP. THANK THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, TO EXPLAIN. YOU WANT ME TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AFTER OR BEFORE? AFTER? YES, SIR. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? COME ON UP SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU. YES, SIR. I CAN USE THE SCREEN. LET'S SEE. DOT CAM IS ON. AND, CARISSA, I MAY HAVE AN ANSWER TO YOU OR SOMETHING. 
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ACTUALLY, I THINK THIS PICTURE IS. 
          PERFECT. BEAUTIFUL. ALL RIGHT. ROBERT SMITH 115 NORTH NINTH STREET. I AM THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING AT 316 MAIN. AND THIS HAS BEEN I PURCHASED THIS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, PROBABLY BACK AROUND 2016. AND THE PICTURE THAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU IS ACTUALLY A ARTIST'S RENDERING OF THE EXPANSION OF THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING IN THAT VACANT LOT THAT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR WAS, WAS TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT FO THIS DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, BUT THIS IS A RENDERING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF THAT LOCATION. THE SIGNAGE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TAKEN FROM THE 1950S. IT'S A IT'S A RATHER LARGE MONUMENT SIGN. THAT, OF COURSE, WILL BE I'LL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR APPROVAL AND PROBABLY ALL KINDS OF OF. CODE. YES. OKAY. PERFECT. TO TO PUT THAT SIGN UP THERE FOR YOU. THE ARTWORK, IF YOU LOOK OVER TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE PICTURE AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, IS THE AWNING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING BACK HERE IN ABOUT 30 DAYS. IT'S ORIGINAL AWNING. THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1947, HAVE THE ORIGINAL PLANS AND THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN THIS MORNING SUBMITTED BACK TO THE CITY BUILDING INSPECTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THAT AWNING AND THE ARTWORK. DO YOU MIND PUTTING THAT BACK UP? THE ARTWORK IS GOING TO GO UNDER THE AWNING. AND I ACTUALLY HAD THIS PIECE COMMISSIONED BY AN ARTIST UP IN UP IN MONTANA, ACTUALLY, WHERE THE GAS TANKS USED TO GO UNDER THAT AWNING. THERE WILL BE A HISTORIC MARKER, WHICH IS A SUBJECT MARKER ABOUT THE AJ HEAD SERVICE STATION AND ITS CONTRIBUTION TO THE BANKHEAD HIGHWAY. AND NEXT TO IT WILL BE THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF ARTWORK, WHICH I WANTED TO SHOW REPRESENTATION OF OUR STRUGGLE AND SUCCESS OF RECREATING AND BUILDING DOWNTOWN GARLAND OVER OVER THIS LAST 20 YEARS, AND I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL REPRESENTATION OF THAT. AND THOSE TWO ITEMS WILL BE UNDER THE AWNING IN THE PLACE WHERE GAS TANKS WOULD HAVE BEEN BACK ORIGINALLY. AND IF WE CAN SWITCH BACK TO THIS THING, THE PROJECTOR. THERE WE GO. THE ORIGINAL ROCK SIGN WILL REMAIN OVER TO THE RIGHT. BUT THAT IS THE AWNING. AND THAT IS THE PROPOSED IDEA FOR A LARGER MONUMENT SIGN IDENTIFYING THE LOCATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET ME KNOW. IS THAT AWNING? IS THAT SOMETHING BRAND NEW OR HAVE YOU BEEN STORING THAT SOMEWHERE SINCE 1947? IT WILL BE BRAND NEW, OKAY, BUT IT WILL BE EXACTLY BUILT. WHAT WAS THERE IN 1940 JUST LOOK LIKE IT WAS BUILT IN 1947. YES, IT WILL LOOK JUST LIKE THAT. VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE. THAT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE AN ATLAS PUSHING THE BALL UP THE HILL. IS THAT ONE? WELL, IT'S A IT'S REPRESENTATION OF ALL OF US REBUILDING DOWNTOWN. 
          THE. IF TO UNDERSTAND THE WORK I'VE DONE IN THE PAST, SOME OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW. THE COFFEE SHOP ON THE SQUARE WAS A PROJECT OF MINE. IT WAS THE VERY FIRST ONE I DID. SO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WILL BE PUT INTO THIS BUILDING. OKAY. AND THE HISTORICAL MARKER IS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT OR ALREADY HAVE THAT. YES. OKAY. SO THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU THAT DESIGNATION. YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR AN AWNING TO PUT IT UNDER. EXACTLY. CORRECT. YES. 
          OKAY. VERY NICE. IT'S IT'S VERY, VERY PRETTY. I, I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE SUPPORT THE PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO INVEST IN GARLAND, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK 
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YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR FOR PRESENTING THIS. THIS IS EXCITING. AND IT'S IT'S A SHOW OF OF YOUR SUCCESS AND AND PROGRESS FOR GARLAND. I REMEMBER I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THIS FIRST CAME BACK IN 2016. I REMEMBER THIS WAS KIND OF A PUSH AT THAT TIME. WE HAD THE WONDERFUL LADIES FROM THE GARLAND BIBLE CHURCH THAT CAME DOWN AND THEY THEY FELT THAT THIS MIGHT THEY WERE QUESTIONABLE ABOUT IT. BUT BUT YOU AT THAT TIME, I BELIEVE YOU HAD YOUR APPOINTMENT ONLY. AND YOU'RE I, I REMEMBER WERE YOU MARVEL TRAINED IN ART? I WAS I'M A COMIC BOOK ARTIST. I WAS SELF-PUBLISHED AND ALSO I WAS ALSO WORKING WITH MARVEL. IT CAME RIGHT AT A MOMENT WHERE I GOT CONTRACTS WITH OTHER COMICS COMPANIES AND IT JUST WENT, I COULDN'T MAKE IT, BUT IT WAS ALMOST THERE. I WAS WITH JOE QUESADA AND SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF MARVEL BACK LIKE 18, 20 YEARS AGO. THAT'S WHAT I WAS REMEMBERING AND THAT IT'S OBVIOUSLY YOUR TALENT IS IS VERY WELL RECOGNIZED. AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE YOU IN OUR, IN OUR CITY AND OUR DOWNTOWN AND, AND HAVING YOUR SUCCESS REALIZED BY NEEDING MORE SPACE THAN THAT. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL ARTISTS WITH YOU? THE IDEA IS TO ADD SOME MORE ARTISTS, BUT I ALWAYS TRY TO TRAIN MY OWN PEOPLE. WHOEVER COMES TO WORK WITH ME IS TRAINED UNDER MY. I HAVE THIS IDEA THAT IF YOU CAN PERFORM GOOD ARTWORK OR HAVE GOOD DRAWING TO REPRESENT RIGHT THE TRADE YOU CANNOT TATTOO. SO I TAKE THEM UNDER MY WING, TRAIN THEM FROM SCRATCH, AND THEN I CAN ADD PEOPLE THAT I'M GOING TO TRAIN MYSELF, AVOIDING MY HABITS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT SOMETIMES COME WITH THE WITH THE INDUSTRY. RIGHT? WELL, THIS IS THIS IS FANTASTIC. AND ROBERT, THANK YOU FOR, FOR ADDING ON TO THE BUILDING AND, AND RESTORING THE CANOPY OR THE, THE AWNING, AS YOU WERE SAYING THAT I REMEMBER THAT THOSE RENDERINGS THAT YOU HAD ALL THOS YEARS AGO AND THIS IS GOING TO BE FANTASTIC. THE COMBINATION IS UNBEATABLE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT. THANK YOU, SIR. 
          COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I TOO, WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPRESSED. AND TO YOU, MR. SMITH, FOR THE SUPPORT AND INVESTMENT THAT YOU CONTINUE TO PUT INTO OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. AND TO YOU, SIR, AT QUITE APPARENT THAT YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL IN WHAT YOU DO AND TO BE PUTTING TATTOOS ON COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON MEANS THAT YOU REALLY MUST DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB. SO WITH THAT, I DO HAVE ONE CONCERN, AND THAT CONCERN IS I DO RECOGNIZE THAT. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, HAVE RECOMMENDED A 5 TO 8 YEAR SUP AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, APPROVED THE 5 TO 8 YEAR RECOMMENDATION THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD BY PLANNING. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO, IT SEEMS IN THE FUTURE, I'M WAITING FOR LEGAL TO TELL ME STOP AND HIT ME ON THE HAND. IT DIDN'T. I'M DOING OKAY HERE, BUT I THINK THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HOLD OURSELVES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SAID. WE WANT TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE PUT INTO THOSE INTO PLACE THAT WE HAVE APPROVED. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, SIR, WOULD YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A EIGHT YEAR'S U. P? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I THINK IF WE CAN GET THOSE THREE YEARS THAT WE GOT REMAINING ON OUR SUP AND GET ANOTHER FIVE, THAT WILL BE GREAT AND COME BACK HERE AND JUST REVIEW EVERYTHING TOGETHER, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. SO WITH THAT, UNLESS SOMEONENE REALLYAS A REASON FOR WHY WE SHOULD GO WITH THE TEN VERSUS WHAT WE OURSELVES HAVE APPROVED, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. 
          COUNCILMEMBER. MR. SMITH, THIS IS LOVELY AND VERY, VERY COOL. REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. YOU BET. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM SECRETARY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COUNCILMEMBER CARAWAY, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT, SIR. YES, DEFINITELY. THANK YOU GUYS. AND IT LOOKS VERY, VERY COOL. AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME TO LIFE. DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THE EIGHT YEAR'S U. P MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARAWAY FOR EIGHT YEARS AND A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR 
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PRO TEM DUNTON COUNCIL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE. AND APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. MOVE ON NOW TO OUR NEXT ITEM FOR 
          [b. Consider a request by JPMorgan Chase, requesting approval of a change in zoning from Planned Development (PD) District Community Retail (CR) District (PD-CR) 74-35 to Planned Development (PD) District Community Retail (CR) District (PD-CR) zoning to modify parking standards and approve a new concept plan. The site is located at 1000 West Centerville Road.]
INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. ITEM 12 B CONSIDER A REQUEST BY J.P. MORGAN CHASE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT 7435. 
          THE PLAN. DEVELOPMENT PLAN. DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. ZONING TO MODIFY PARKING STANDARDS AND APPROVE A NEW CONCEPT PLAN. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1000 WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD. THANK YOU SIR. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH THE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL. THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO MODIFY PARKING STANDARDS AND APPROVE A NEW CONCEPT PLAN. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. CURRENTLY, THIS IS DEVELOPED WITH THE CITIZENS THAT DEVELOPED SITE WITH THE SAME BUSINESS CASE, BUT A 16,000, ALMOST APPROXIMATELY 16,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SITE SITE LAYOUT. WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THEY'RE WANTING TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING AND PUT A SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER BUILDING, ABOUT 4000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THAT SITE. WITH THE BUILDING BEING SMALLER. OF COURSE, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS GET WAY LESS, BUT THE SITE IS MOSTLY DEVELOPED WITH PARKING RIGHT NOW, SO THEY'RE FAR EXCEEDING THEIR PARKING ALLOWANCE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THEM COMING FORWARD WITH THE PD. AS MENTIONED, 1000 CENTERVILLE ROAD, 1.837 ACRES. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, WITH BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL. THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS FROM 1974. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION MAP. THIS IS LOCATED ALONG CENTERVILLE AND BROADMOOR. IT IS IN AN F, A ECONOMIC FOCUS AREA. IT IS SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESSES. ON THE OTHER SIDE, JOBS HAS COME IN. WE HAVE ANOTHER CASE TONIGHT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY AS AS WELL. 
          THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THIS AREA OUT FOR COMMUNITY CENTERS. COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE AREAS WITH COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY NONRESIDENTIAL, SERVING A COLLECTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE PROPOSED USE A BANK, USE SMALLER BUILDING WITH THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT I'M ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE. IT DOES FULFILL THAT CATEGORIES CRITERIA. AGAIN, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE WEDGE F A. IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY ADVANCE THE F A THE GOALS OF GARLAND ON THE RISE. HOWEVER, THERE ARE INCREASING LANDSCAPING THERE, ADDING PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE. WITH THE PLACEMAKING COMPONENT. SO OVERALL SITE DEVELOPMENT DOES SEEM TO BE. SEEM TO ALIGN WITH GARLAND ON THE RISE. THERE'S THE SITE PHOTO. HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS. THERE'S SOME MORE. THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. THE TEAL COLOR BUILDING IS WHAT THEY ARE WANTING TO REPLACE. THAT IS ABOUT 4000 SQUARE FOOT. 
          WHAT YOU SEE IN RED IS THE PROPOSED FIRE LANE. THERE'S A RATHER WIDE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE FROM CENTERVILLE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CLOSE ONE SIDE OF IT AND HAVE ANOTHER SIDE OPENS. IT'LL STILL BE TWO WAY, BUT THEY'RE CREATING. THEY'RE MAKING THAT ENTRANCE NARROWER. 
          BUT YOU SEE IN HERE IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT IT'S ORANGISH CLOSE TO CENTERVILLE. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PLACE THE FALLEN SOLDIER MEMORIAL THAT IS CURRENTLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTH ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING. SO THEY'RE WANTING TO BRING IT UP FRONT AND VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, AND PUT SOME BENCHES AND CREATE A PLACE MAKING AMENITY. WITH THAT, THEY ARE PROPOSING A CONTINUOUS ROW OF SHRUB ON THE WESTERN SIDE THAT YOU COULD SEE IN PURPLE. 
          MAGENTA. THE THREE TO THE SOUTH, YOU COULD SEE THE THREE ATM, THE THREE DRIVE THROUGH LANES. 
          CURRENTLY THEY ARE NOT LOCATED IN THAT AREA. THEY'RE LOCATED WHERE YOU SEE MORE GREEN. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO THE WEST. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO RELOCATE THEM TO THE SOUTH OF 
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THE TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, THERE IS A RATHER LARGE GREEN EA LANDSCAPE. THIS LANDSCAPED AREA WITH GRASS. INITIALLY, STAFF TRIED TO SEE IF WE COULD KIND OF ACTIVATE THAT WITH SOME KIND OF AMENITY, LIKE A DOG PARK. BUT REALLY, THIS BEING SUCH IN A SUCH COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, IT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE. AND THE APPLICANT PREFERRED TO JUST STAY WITH OPEN LANDSCAPING. SO WHAT ARE THE PROVISIONS WITHIN THE PD? THE PARKING RATIO CURRENTLY THEY ARE ALLOWED TO WITH THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO UP TO 19 SPACES. 
          HOWEVER, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO GO 43, 43, 47 PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS WAY MORE THAN WHAT THE CODE ALLOWS OR THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE PROCESS ALLOWS. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING A PARKING RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER 86 SQUARE FOOT. OUR CURRENT CODE REQUIREMENT IS ONE SPACE PER 300 SQUARE FOOT. SO IT'S IT'S A BIG, BIG INCREASE IN THE PARKING RATIO. BUT IT IS BECAUSE OF THIS HOW THE SITE IS LAID OUT TODAY, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE MAKE THAT MAXIMUM PARKING ONE SPACE PER PER 86 SO THAT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EXCEED IT ANY FURTHER. THREE UP TO THREE DRIVE UP ATMS PERMITTED ON SITE. THE LANDSCAPE AREA, THEY'RE EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FROM 10%. THEY'RE PROVIDING 40%. THEY'RE PROVIDING MORE CANOPY TREES WITHIN THE PARKING LOT. SEVEN CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED. THEY'RE PROVIDING 13. THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING THAT CONTINUOUS ROW OF SHRUBS TOWARD THE WEST SIDE OF THE OF THE OF THE SITE. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE PROPOSING A BICYCLE RACK WITH FOUR BICYCLES AND THE NON ADA PARKING SPACES. 
          ALL WILL BE STAMPED OR DECORATIVE CONCRETE. AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THE FALLEN OFFICER MEMORIAL TO BE RELOCATED ALONG CENTERVILLE WITH A DECORATIVE FOUNTAIN, TWO BENCHES AND A TRASH RECEPTACLE. AND A LOT OF IT HAS BEEN CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND MAJORITY OF THESE. THE PURPOSE OF THESE CONDITIONS IS TO SOFTEN THE. THE. THE PARKING SPACES, THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. WITH ALL THESE CONDITIONS THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT AND PLAN COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. WE MAILED OUT 66 LETTERS. WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. WE'LL START WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. FIRST, THANK YOU TO CHASE BANK FOR DOING THE FALLEN OFFICER MEMORIAL. THAT IS A. WHEN I FIRST HEARD THAT THE BANK WAS GOING TO GET DEMOLISHED, THAT WAS. MY FIRST CONCERN WAS THE. THE SIGNIFICANCE THAT IT HOLDS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AND FOR OFFICER MOORE'S GETTING KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY AT THAT BANK. SO I DEEPLY APPRECIATE THAT. NEBULA, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE MAP, PLEASE? SO THE FIRE LANE IS IT LOOKS LIKE A RIVER. WHY IS IT SO LARGE? OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS 24. IT IS 24 OUT OF. THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN. SO THIS MAY NOT BE FULLY PROPORTIONATE. I MEAN IT'S THE IT'S THE SAME WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY. SO IT JUST LOOKS A LITTLE ODD. I I'M ALSO NOT A FAN OF THE ADDITIONAL PARKING. 
          I, I WOULD SAY LIKE 1 TO 150 AT BEST. AND THE MAIN CONCERN FOR THAT IS WHAT THAT PARKING LOT TURNS INTO AT NIGHT CURRENTLY. I DON'T KNOW IF. MR. MAYOR. YES, SIR. THAT DISCUSSION IS CERTAINLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION. BECAUSE IT'S NOT RELATED TO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR WITHIN THEIR APPLICATION TONIGHT. PARKING SPACES, NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IS FINE. IT'S THE CONVERSATION ABOUT ANY THAT MIGHT FOLLOW AFTER THAT. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT. IF YOU HAVE MORE PARKING SPACES, UNDESIRABLE THINGS HAPPEN. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE, SIR? UNLESS YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER LUCK. I'M ALSO 
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NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT MANY PARKING SPACES. I, I ORIGINALLY ASSUMED THAT THAT WAS FOR EXPANDED JOVIE'S PARKING, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS ALL BLOCKED BY LANDSCAPING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY A SMALLER BUILDING WOULD REQUIRE MORE PARKING THAN. A LARGER BUILDING CURRENTLY REQUIRES. SO GO AHEAD. REDUCING PARKING SOME. I THINK THEY'RE REDUCING FOUR FOUR SPACES, ISN'T IT? YES, BUT THE BUILDING'S GOING DOWN WAY MORE SO THAT THAT'S THE POINT OF CONTENTION HERE, ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE SIZE OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. SO THEY SHOULD HAVE A QUARTER OF THE PARKING, RIGHT. I MEAN, THE RATIOS KIND OF. YEAH, I, I, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT MANY PARKING SPACES IN THIS AREA. WOULD YOU BE I MEAN, I GUESS I'LL LET THE APPLICANTS ASK THAT, LIKE, WHAT RATIO WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FOR CITY COUNCIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? 151 TO 150 WHAT WOULD THAT LOWER THAT TO ONE, TWO, 300 IS WHAT'S REQUIRED. SO IF WE DO 1 TO 150. 27, 27 WOULD BE AND HOW MANY? I GUESS IT'S I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW, MAYBE 47 IS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO WORK AT THIS. 12 EMPLOYEES. SO THEIR CONCERN WAS THERE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH PARKING FOR CUSTOMERS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY. AND THEN THEY ALSO MENTIONED THERE WOULD BE TRAININGS HAPPENING IN THAT BUILDING. AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUST NARRATIVES FROM THE APPLICANT. SO AT THAT TIME, THERE MAY BE LARGE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES COMING IN AND THEY MAY BE NEEDING THOSE PARKING SPACES FOR THOSE. BUT AGAIN, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT TALK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALSO, WHAT IS THE ORANGE THE ORANGE DOTS ON THAT SITE PLAN? THAT'S WHERE THE FALLEN OFFICER MEMORIAL WOULD BE. NO, I GUESS OH. OH THESE THINGS. YEAH. THE POLKA DOTTED PATTERN AREA. YEAH. THOSE ARE THE STAMPED CONCRETE. 
          CONCRETE STAMPED PARKING. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION HERE ON THE REGARDING THE DECORATIVE OR STAMPED PARKING IN THE APPLICANT'S LETTER IT SAYS DECORATIVE STAMP PARKING. IN OUR CONDITIONS IT SAYS DECORATIVE OR STAMPED PARKING. WHAT'S OUR DEFINITION OF DECORATIVE EXCUSE. NOT DECORATIVE PARKING. DECORATIVE PAVEMENT. SO IT SAYS IN THE APPLICANT'S LETTER, DECORATIVE STAMPED PAVEMENT. IN OUR CONDITIONS, IT SAYS DECORATIVE OR STAMPED CONCRETE. BUT IN OUR GDC, WE DON'T DEFINE DECORATIVE CONCRETE. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE RECENTLY STARTED LOOKING INTO. SO WHEN THERE'S A LOT MORE PARKING, WE'RE TRYING TO. THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE'RE TRYING TO SEE HOW CAN WE MAKE IT LOOK LESS GRAY O CONCRETE? STAINED CONCRETE IN THAT CASE, IS THAT DECORATIVE OR WHAT'S OUR DEFINITION? THERE'S NO DEFINITION. SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO LOOK INTO. HOW CAN I CAN WE DEFINE IT MORE? BUT IN THIS CASE, SOME KINOF ENHANCEMENT EITHER STAMPED OR SOME KIND OF STAINED PARKING. WE NEED A DEFINITION IN THERE BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS CONDITION. PD THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH, WE CAN HAVE THAT. 
          WE CAN HAVE THAT. WE CAN BRING ONE BACK BEFORE THIS IS IN THE ORDINANCE. WE CAN PUT IT IN. I THINK THAT WOULD SET A GOOD PRECEDENT IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TOWARDS DOING THAT SORT OF THING IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. 
          MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE APPLICANT? CARLOS IGLESIAS AND DAVID P COUNTS. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOU'LL HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION. MY NAME IS DAVID COUNTS. I'M THE SET THAT DOWN. THEY'LL ADJUST THE LEVELS FOR YOU. YES. 
          DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR JP MORGAN. CHASE FOR DALLAS, FORT WORTH. CARLOS IGLESIAS, 2080. 
          NO HIGHWAY, NO. HIGHWAY 360, GRAND PRAIRIE. I AM A CIVIL ENGINEER APPLICANT FOR THE PROJECT. SORRY, MY ADDRESS 1414 SHETLAND DRIVE, ALLEN, TEXAS. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN OUR BUILDING THERE. IT'S I THINK IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN EARLY 70S, A BIT DATED. WE WANT TO BRING THAT CORNER UP TO OUR CURRENT STANDARD, WHICH WOULD BE 4000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH THREE DRIVE UP ATMS TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE THAT PART OF THE GARLAND COMMUNITY AT 
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BROADMOOR AND CENTERVILLE. WE WE LOOK AT OUR BRANCHES OVER A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD AS THEY START TO GET OLD OR START TO LOOK OLD. WE WANT TO. WE WANT TO BRING IN OUR NEWEST AND LATEST PROTOTYPE. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO ENHANCE THAT CORNER. AND JUST TO NOTE, ON THE THE PARKING, WE HAVE JUST SHY OF 20 EMPLOYEES THERE. SO WE LIKE TO HAVE WE NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS WE ALWAYS PLAN FOR 25 TO 30 CUSTOMER PARKING SPACES. SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ASKING FOR THE, THAT AMOUNT OF PARKING FOR THIS SITE, THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS THAT HAPPEN ON THAT BRANCH SEPARATED FROM THE ATM TRANSACTIONS, WHICH DON'T REQUIRE PARKING, BUT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL TRANSACTIONS THAT HAPPEN IN THE BRANCH. THAT'S WHY WE ARE REQUESTING THE EXTRA AMOUNT OF PARKING. AND IN LIEU OF WHAT WE WORKED OUT WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS TO ADD THE DECORATIVE PARKING AND TO CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DECORATIVE PARKING, AND IS DOING PAVERS OR STAMPED CONCRETE DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF EXCESS PARKING THAT WE ARE DOING, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH A STAMP CONCRETE IN LIEU OF PAVERS DUE TO THE COST, AND TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE REAL PAVERS. AND IN LIEU OF THE INCREASED PARKING AND MEETING THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EXTRA LANDSCAPE IN ORDER TO MITIGATE FOR THE INCREASE OF PARKING. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? ARE YOU HERE? WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER, I'LL START WITH YOU, MA'AM. SO THE EXTRA SPACES ARE NOT SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE A NIGHT MARKET AFTER 8 P.M. MR. MAYOR. YES, SIR. I WOULD ASK THAT THAT QUESTION BE WITHDRAWN JUST BECAUSE THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE TONIGHT. IT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE. 
          STAYS ON MY LETTER. THE BRANCH OPERATING HOURS ARE FROM 8 A.M. IN THE MORNING, 830 IN THE MORNING WHEN THE BRANCH OPENS, CLOSES AT FIVE. THAT'S NOT AFTER HOURS OPERATIONS IN ANY BANK IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S A LEGIT BANK. THE BANK IS OPEN FROM 830 UNTIL 5 P.M. 
          THE ATMS WILL BE OPEN 24 OVER SEVEN AS PEOPLE NEEDS TO TO WITHDRAW CASH OR MAKE DEPOSITS. 
          WELL, I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO. YOU SHOULD. SINCE I'VE BEEN GOING TO THIS BANK FOREVER, I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THIS BANK WITH A FULL PARKING LOT THERE. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE DECREASING THE SIZE OF YOUR FOOTPRINT. YOU'RE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND ASKING FOR MORE PARKING. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. AND IN LIEU OF THE LACK OF SECURITY THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS LOCATION, I URGE YOU TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS BUILDING. 
          I MEAN, DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES. SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. YOU HAVE 20 EMPLOYEES, 20 PEOPLE VISITING 40. SOUNDS REASONABLE. I JUST. FROM 40 THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING. WE ARE PROPOSING 47. SO IT'S NOT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. IF WE WERE 60 OVER. I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE SAID THAT YOU HAD 12 EMPLOYEES, SO YOU'VE ALREADY JUMPED BY EIGHT. SO YOU PLAN TO GROW THE OUR BANKERS AT THAT SITE? I'M SORRY. WE DO PLAN TO, TO, TO GROW OUR BANKING STAFF AT THAT SITE. I'M I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SECURITY AT YOUR BUILDING. I, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT YOUR OFFICES AFTER HOURS, BUT IT'S LIVELY. TO SAY THE LEAST, AND QUITE DANGEROUS SOMETIMES. SO IS THERE ANY SECURITY ENHANCEMENT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AT ALL, OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAYBE MITIGATE ANY OF THE THINGS THAT GO ON WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE BANKERS THERE? WELL, EVERY, EVERY QUARTER AND CHASE BANK THAT WE ARE BUILDING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, THERE WILL BE SECURITY CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE LIGHT POLES THAT ARE ON SITE, FACING THE BANK AND FACING THE PARKING LOT. SO THAT'S A SECURITY THAT CHASE HAS IN PLACE DUE TO FDIC REQUIREMENTS BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW. I WOULD I WOULD PREFER TO SEE A MAXIMUM, A VERY MAXIMUM OF 40, INCLUDING 88 SPOTS AT THAT FACILITY. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. HOW, WHY, WHY ARE YOU GOING TO A SMALLER BUILDING? LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING AWAY 
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WITH THE FROM THE CURRENT BUILDING TO THE NEW BUILDING. SO A LOT OF THAT BUILDING IS NOT BEING USED CURRENTLY. AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, SHRINK THE SIZE OF OUR BUILDINGS OVER TIME. AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR STANDARD A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN OUR STANDARD FOOTPRINT TODAY. OUR CURRENT RETAIL BRANCHES, 3500FT■S. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE EMPLOYEES HERE THAN OUR NORMAL, NORMAL SITE IS. ARE YOU IS THIS LOCATION LIKE A TRAINING LOCATION OR OKAY, THIS ONE JUST HAS MORE EMPLOYEES JUST BECAUSE MORE EMPLOYEES, MORE, MORE TRANSACTIONS, MORE, MORE TELLER WINDOWS. WE DO HAVE A H HIGH VOLUME OF TRANSACTIONS HERE THAT REQUIRES A LARGER THAN NORMAL STAFF. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT YOUR NUMBER IS OF LIKE WHEN WHAT'S IT CALLED, THE DRIVE THROUGH VERSUS PEOPLE GOING IN? I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEAD. 
          I CAN GET IT TO YOU BECAUSE THE INTERNET TELLS ME. THAT THE AVERAGE BANK HAS HIGHER DRIVE THROUGH TRAFFIC THAN WALK IN TRAFFIC. I'VE. ONE OF THE JOYS OF HAVING AUTISM IS I FALL DOWN RABBIT HOLES THAT NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO GO DOWN. AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THEM, WHICH REALLY KIND OF SOLIDIFIES THE QUESTION OF WHY DO YOU NEED SO MANY PARKING SPACES IF BECAUSE OF AFTER HOURS PARKING SITUATION, BEING A LIVELY, EVENTFUL THING, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD MAYBE DESIGN THE PARKING LOT TO DETER. LARGER THAN NORMAL TRUCKS PULLING IN THERE. JUST THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. CALM DOWN. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS ONE OF OUR BIG CONCERNS, RIGHT? IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. WE WANT IT TO LOOK NICE. WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK A CERTAIN. BLACK MARKET WAY. SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE SEE SOME OF THOSE THINGS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS RIGHT THERE. 
          SO INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLE COMING INTO THE I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE MAYBE WE COULD THERE'S WAYS TO GET CREATIVE WITH OUR PARKING SPOTS SO THAT IT, IT LIMITS THE SIZE OF VEHICLES THAT CAN BE IN THE PARKING LOT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS. PARKING SPACES. WE ARE MEETING THE CURRENT CITY CODE, WHICH WE ARE IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, SO WE CANNOT MAKE ANY SMALLER THAN WHAT ALREADY IS. NO NO NO NO NO. WE COULD WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION AFTERWARDS. AND MR. MAYOR, SIR, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, JUST AS A REMINDER, AS WE TALK THROUGH THIS ISSUE, THAT WE REMEMBER THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE, AND THAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO ASK AN APPLICANT TO GO OUTSIDE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OF THE SITUATION. THAT'S NOT WHAT. 
          THANK YOU SIR. ANY. I APPRECIATE IT. I'M SAYING MAYBE THERE'S A TREE IN BETWEEN EACH PARKING SPOT. A BIG BOULDER, YOU KNOW. AND A LITTLE OBSTACLE COURSE, IF YOU WILL. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MOORE. I'M AFRAID. BUT. I'M GOING TO GIVE IT A TRY. IS THERE A. I'M KIND OF FEELING LIKE I'M IN THE DARK RIGHT NOW. AND THAT IS WE HAVE A PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE THAT IS CALLING CALLING FOR A X NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. AND THE PARKING SPACES. IS THAT REALLY THE ISSUE? AND IF IT IS, THEN I'M NOT I'M JUST I'M NOT NOT CONNECTED. BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING HERE THAT IS EXTENUATING THAT MAYBE WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT SUCH THINGS AS MAYBE THE SECURITY ASPECT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THINK I NEED TO UNDERSTAND MORE. WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO VOTE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES AS IT RELATES TO THIS PROPOSAL, AND I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND. I DON'T KNOW IF BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T AT THIS POINT, WHAT THE ISSUE IS AS IT RELATES TO, AND MAYBE I NEED TO BRING BACK STAFF, BRING BACK STAFF, IF YOU WILL. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS AND I DON'T KNOW, MR. ATTORNEY. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING HAVING TO DO WITH SAFETY ISSUES HERE AS IT RELATES TO THE NUMBER OF 
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PARKING SPACES THAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR VERSUS THE ACTUAL. THING THAT SHOULD BE BEFORE US, WHICH IS WHY WE WOULD OR WOULD NOT LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO WHY I, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WOULD BE CONCERNED? I'M I'M AWARE OF SOME ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF THE OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S APPROVED AS A LAND USE CURRENTLY. AND I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT VIOLATION CAN BE FACILITATED MORE WITH THE PARKING SPACES. MR. MAYOR, LET ME THANK YOU. SOMEBODY HELP ME! IT'S ME. MORE. I THINK WE'VE WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS IN IN OVER THE YEARS. JUST ABOUT HOW MUCH DO WE HOLD PROPERTY OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIRD PARTY ACTS, ESPECIALLY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE OCCURRING ON THE PROPERTY. EVERY PROPERTY. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITE, LIKE ALL THE SITES IN THE AREA OVER THERE IN THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION, IS THAT THE PARKING LOT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S A PUBLIC PARKING LOT IN THAT SENSE, ALTHOUGH IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, A SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC THAT IS NOT CONNECTED BUSINESS WISE TO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT, TENDS TO USE THIS PROPERTY AFTER THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS HOURS ARE CLOSED. AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY, IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO HOLD THE APPLICANT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIRD PARTY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT'S OCCURRING WHEN THERE'S NOTHING IN THE LAW THAT REQUIRES THEM TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE FOUND IN THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THAT'S THE PIECE THAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO. IF, IN FACT, WE I JUST HAD THIS CASE A WEEK AGO, TWO WEEKS AGO, WHERE I HAD TO VOTE IN A DIRECTION OF SOMETHING THAT I WAS TRULY NOT WANTING TO VOTE FOR, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS A SITUATION THAT WAS NOT PROSPECT'S PROBLEM. THEY DIDN'T CREATE THE PROBLEM. 
          THEY DON'T CREATE THE PROBLEM. IN OTHER WORDS, HAVING THE EXTRA SPACES THERE. THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR PROPERTY. THEY'RE TRYING TO ENHANCE IT. LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT PLAN HERE. IT'S A GREAT DEVELOPMENT. AND IF, IN FACT, WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES ARE EXISTING, IS IT THEIR FAULT OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING? SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING OUT WITH THIS AT THIS POINT. AND THAT IS. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE A SENSE OF DIRECTION IF, IN FACT, OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND WE CAN'T ADDRESS THAT. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TRULY NEED TO MAYBE NOT EVEN VOTE ON TONIGHT. I KNOW WE HAVE TO. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER TRENT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          CAN I HAVE A STEP BACK? I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK. SO TO FOLLOW COUNCIL COUNCILMAN'S MORSE, I TRY TO REPEAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND. THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR 47 PARKING SPACE AND THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS IS 1414. AND WE HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S IS RECOMMEND TO APPROVE. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN STAFF ALSO RECOMMEND TO APPROVE WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS OF THE 13 CANOPY TREE, 40% OF LANDSCAPE AND SO ON. YES. MOST OF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE CRAFTED TO SOFTEN THE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. BUT WE ALSO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE, WE, WE CONCERN ABOUT IF YOU HAVE MORE PARKING SPACE THAT MIGHT BE HAVE SIDE EFFECTS. RIGHT. SO IF IT'S 47 PARKING SPACE, IS THAT STILL IN THE CODE ALLOWANCE? IT'S NOT IT'S NOT. 
          NOW WITH ADMINISTRATIVELY WE COULD GO UP TO 19. AND THIS IS WAY MORE. THIS IS ACTUALLY 336% MORE THAN I KNOW. IT SOUNDS EXTRAVAGANT, BUT WHEN YOU APPLY THE PERCENTAGE TO THOSE NUMBERS, IT IS 336% OVER. SO WE MAY ALLOW UP TO 19 PARKING SPACE. WE CAN STAFF CAN ALSO CAN APPROVE ANY NUMBER. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE THE APPLICANT BACK? EARLIER THAT. 
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COUNCILWOMAN MENTIONED THE PARKING SPACE, BUT THE STAFF WAS MENTIONED. RECOMMEND 19 PARKING SPACE. WHAT IS THE NUMBERS IF WE IF WE GO WITH 19 OR 40 PARKING SPACE. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT 4040 PARKING SPACE? WELL, WE INTERNALLY WE'VE APPROVED THIS 47, BUT I WORKED WITH YOU ON THE LOWER NUMBER. IF WE GO WITH 4040 PARKING SPACE. ARE YOU OKAY? IF I WORK BETWEEN 47 AND 40? YOU STILL ASSISTING MISTER? MISTER MAYOR? YES, SIR. AGAIN, THIS TYPE OF NEGOTIATION IS REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE WHEN AN APPLICANT IS UP BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IN APPROVING A LAND USE LIKE THIS. YEAH. THEY'RE ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE. A CERTAIN MINIMUM AMOUNT OF SPACES AND A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SPACES. AND THE IDEA THAT IF YOU NEGOTIATE WITH US, WE'LL APPROVE. THIS IS A MESSAGE THAT IS IMPLICITLY BEING LEFT OUT THERE. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO. I WANT TO RETRACT IT BACK. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM, MISTER MAYOR. GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THE LIGHTING PLAN IS FOR THIS PROJECT? TOP OF MY HEAD, I DO NOT. BUT I KNOW THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW CERTAIN FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR LIGHTING SECURITY CONCERNS BECAUSE OF BEING A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. SO I KNOW SHE WILL FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS. I DON'T KNOW IN MY HEAD, BUT PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN AND ENGINEERING. SO I CAN HAVE THOSE AND, YOU KNOW, SEND BACK TO YOU FOR REVIEW, BUT NOT NECESSARY. I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE SAFE TO ASSUME THAT LIGHTING IS GOING TO BE MODERNIZED, AND IT'S GOING TO BE BRIGHTER. IT'S GOING TO BE CLEANER THAN WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY. YES. AND HAVING A BRIGHTER AND CLEANER SPOT THAT'S THERE, A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CHASE WOULD BE MOTIVATED TO MAINTAIN AND EVEN MORE SOO THAN WHAT THEY ALREADY DO. AND A TO MAKE SURE THAT ACTIVITIES, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE, ARE TO THE VISION OF WHAT CHASE WOULD WANT IT TO BE. WOULD THAT BE SAFE TO ASSUME. YES. I MEAN, THE STANDARDS WILL IMPROVE OVER WHAT'S OUT THERE. NOW, IF THAT'S THE QUESTION. YES IT IS. OKAY. I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH A WITH A VERY LARGE BANKING INSTITUTION THAT'S COMING TO OUR CITY, THAT'S IN ONE OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORRIDORS THAT IS LOOKING TO PLACE A BRAND NEW SHINY OBJECT ON A HARD CORNER OF OUR CITY. AND SO I'D LIKE TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. AND WHATEVER THE PARKING DISCUSSIONS LEAD TO. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR COMING HERE TO PRESENT THIS TO US. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. AND COUNCIL, BEFORE WE GO BACK AROUND AGAIN, I WANT TO JUMP IN HERE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE US DESIGNING A SITE ON THE FLY. THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE AND OUR ENGINEERING STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET, ESPECIALLY REGARDING OUR FIRE LANE WIDTHS AND TURNING RADIUS AND SO FORTH. SO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PREVENTING CERTAIN TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT PREVENTS PUBLIC SAFETY FROM GETTING TO THIS BUILDING IN CASE OF AN INCIDENT. 
          THIS BUILDING IS PUSHED UP TOWARDS THE STREET, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE WANT IN OUR DESIGN CODE WITH THE PARKING BEHIND IT. IF YOU NOTICE THAT IN THE SITE PLAN RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A SEA OF PARKING IN THAT WHOLE AREA, AND THIS IS PROPOSING TO HAVE 40% OF GREEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPING AROUND THIS WHOLE BUILDING COMPARED TO WHAT IS NOW. THEY'RE PUTTING 13 CANOPY TREES IN THERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREES THEY HAVE NOW, IT'S JUST CRAPE MYRTLES THAT ARE PRETTY POOR CONDITION. THEY'RE ADDING SIGNIFICANT TREES. AND YOU ASK ABOUT TRE IN THE PARKING LOT. WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS TO PUT THEM IN TRAFFIC ISLANDS THROUGHOUT OUR PARKING LOTS AS PART OF OUR STANDARDS. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A CONCEPT PLAN. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ALLOWED THE CHANGE TO SHOW CONCEPT PLANS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS TO BRING QUALITY PROJECTS LIKE THIS TO OUR CITY. I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT. I THINK THIS INVESTMENT IN THIS AREA IS FANTASTIC. I LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ADDING IN SPECIALIZED CONCRETE AND PAVING IN THOSE PARKING SPACES. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU GET TYPICALLY. 
          I LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE INCLUDING IT. OFFICER MEMORIAL FOR OFFICER DAVID MOORE IN THE FUTURE TO TO COMMEMORATE WHAT HAPPENED THERE WITH OUR FALLEN OFFICER. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THE REINVESTMENT AND THE RIGHT SIZING OF THE BUILDING TO FIT 
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THEIR BUSINESS NEEDS IS APPROPRIATE, AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THEIR INVESTMENT IN THE CITY. COUNCIL MEMBER. LOOK, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE, MA'AM. OKAY, I SEE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, COUNCILMEMBER LUCK IN YOUR DISTRICT, MA'AM, I MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 12 B WITH A MAXIMUM OF 30 PARKING SPOTS AND 50% LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER. LUCK. AND A SECOND, YOU GUYS JUMP IN THE SECOND SO QUICKLY YOU DON'T EVEN HEAR THE MOTION. HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER. LUCK WITH 30 PARKING SPACES AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON. IS THAT THE ONLY CONDITION? I'M SORRY, MA'AM. 30 PARKING SPACES AND 50% LANDSCAPING. OKAY. IT'S 30 PARKING SPACES AND 50% LANDSCAPING. AND SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? JUMP IN THE QUEUE, SIR, IF YOU WOULD, COULD I REQUEST THAT MOTION? NOT DESIGNING FROM THE BENCH THAT YOU JUST SAID WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING MOTION. MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT THE MOTION IS A MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICATION BASED ON STANDARDS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS MOTION. I LIKE THE ORIGINAL ORIGINAL CONCEPT. AS I STATED IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS AND MADAM SECRETARY, I SEE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. SO PLEASE PREPARE A VOTE. MAY I PLEASE HAVE A SECOND ASSISTANT? YOU HAVE A SECOND? SORRY. LET ME CLEAR THE MOTIONS. IF I GET COUNCIL MAYOR. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.Y PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE. AND THAT ITEM FAILS. 3 TO 5 WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS. TRAN, MORE. THOMAS, MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE MAYOR IN OPPOSITION COUNCIL LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS, I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED WITH 40 PARKING SPACES. HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED WITH THE 40 WITH 40 PARKING SPACES. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE WITH BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS WITH 40 PARKING SPACES AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. COUNCIL. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE. ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. MOVE NOW ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT C CONSIDER A 
          [c. Consider a request by Watermill Express, requesting approval of 1) a Specific Use Provision (SUP) for a Kiosk, Self-Service: Retail (ice, water, etc.) use and 2) a Concept Plan for a Kiosk, Self-Service: Retail (ice, water, etc.) use. The site is located at 1130 West Centerville Road.]
REQUEST BY WATERMILL EXPRESS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A KIOSK. SELF-SERVICE, RETAIL, ICE, WATER, ETCETERA USE AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR KIOSK SELF-SERVICE RETAIL ICE WATER USE. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1130 WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR KIOSK, SELF-SERVICE, RETAIL, ICE, WATER, ETC. USE AND ASSOCIATED CONCEPT PLAN. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. 
          CURRENTLY THERE IS AN OLDER STRUCTURE OF THE KIOSK ON SITE. IT'S A DIFFERENT LOT, BUT WITHIN THE SAME SHOPPING CENTER WHICH. IS CURRENTLY BEING NOT DEVELOPED. THE BUILDING IS ALREADY DEVELOPED. JOBS IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON GETTING IN THERE. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO RELOCATE THE STRUCTURE WITHIN THE SAME SHOPPING CENTER, BUT IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, AND I CAN SHOW YOU WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY AND WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE IN A BIT. AND THEN AS YOU HAVE SEEN THIS, THESE TYPE OF SIMILAR CASES, AND THE LAST YEAR OR SO, THE 
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WATERMILL COMPANY, THEY'RE UPDATING THEIR STRUCTURES, THE OLDER VERSIONS, THE OLDER PROTOTYPES, THEY'RE REPLACING THEM WITH THE NEW ONES. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE INTENDING TO DO AS WELL. THE CURRENT ONE IS OPERATING THERE SINCE 2007. AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS CLASSIFIED AS JUST RETAIL. SO IT PREDATES GDC. THE ONLY REASON IT'S TRIGGERING THE SUP IS BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING TO FIRST DEMOLISH THE, I MEAN, TAKE OUT THE STRUCTURE AND HAVE A NEW STRUCTURE IN THERE. AND THEY'RE RELOCATING. AND THOSE ARE THE UPDATES THAT TRIGGERS THE SUP. AS YOU MENTIONED, 1130 WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD. JUST AS A CLARIFICATION, THAT ADDRESS IS WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO RELOCATE WITHIN THAT SHOPPING CENTER. THERE ARE MULTIPLE ADDRESSES THAT MAY HAVE CONFUSED SOME PEOPLE. THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER IS ABOUT EIGHT ACRES, AND IT IS ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 626-16 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES. YOU CAN SEE I. NOW THE ZONING MAP SAYS PD 02-48, BUT PD 26-16 IS FAIRLY RECENT. AS YOU CAN TELL BY. THE NUMBER IN. THE MAPS ARE ACTUALLY CREATED. INITIAL STAGE OF THE ZONING MAP, WHICH IS WHY THAT DISCREPANCY IS THERE. BUT THE ZONING IS THE SAME. IT'S COMMUNITY, RETAIL, SURROUNDING AREAS OR COMMUNITY TO THE EAST SIDE, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL, SUBDIVISION, THE COMMUNITY. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THIS AREA OUT FOR COMMUNITY CENTERS. COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE AREAS WITH COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY NONRESIDENTIAL, SERVING A COLLECTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS. GENERALLY SPEAKING. THE WATER KIOSK MAY OR MAY NOT BE TOO RELEVANT FOR THIS, BUT IT IS WELL USED FROM WHAT WE COULD TELL, AND HAVING THAT ON SITE. IT DOES SOMEHOW SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND CAN MATCH THAT DIGNATION. HERE YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE CURRENT STRUCTURE IS. THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY HAVE HAD IN ALL THE LOCATIONS IN GARLAND, AND THAT'S THE ONE THEY'RE TRYING TO REPLACE IN SEVERAL, SEVERAL LOCATIONS. AND THIS IS THE PARKING THERE, TAKING UP FOUR PARKING SPACES FROM THAT PARKING LOT. THEY'RE LEASING FOUR PARKING SPACES, TWO FOR THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE AND TWO FOR LANDSCAPING. BUT THE SITE ALREADY HAS A LOT MORE PARKING THAN REQUIRED, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE ANY PARKING DEFICIENCY PER CODE. SO WHAT YOU SEE. WE HAVE TWO. THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY THEIR EXISTING. AND THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO RELOCATE. AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU COULD SEE THE KIOSK AND THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE ARE REQUIRING FOR THEM TO PUT IN. 
          THIS IS THE CONCEPT ELEVATIONS. YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS. IT'S SIMILAR OR IT'S THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHER ONES THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD. IT IS AN UPGRADED VERSION OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY. THEY ARE REQUESTING AN SUP FOR 30 YEARS BECAUSE IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          TECHNICALLY, THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINE RECOMMENDS 25 TO 30. HOWEVER, WE DO THINK EVEN IF IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHEN WE PUT IN NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THIS TIME PERIOD GUIDELINES, WE WERE NOT NECESSARILY THINKING OF KIOSKS. WE WERE THINKING OF ACTUAL BUILDINGS AND ACTUAL DEVELOPMENTS. SO TO ADJUST THAT, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS 15, 15 YEARS. PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND 25 YEARS, AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO BE PROVIDED IN THE REAR SIDE OF THE KIOSK, WHICH WILL NOT REQUIRE REMOVAL OF ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. IT WILL BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE PUTTING IN THE KIOSK. WE HAVE SENT OUT 98 LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA, AND ONE THAT SAID NEITHER IN FAVOR OR AGAINST. SO TOTAL TWO. 
          WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER. LOOK, DO YOU KNOW IF JOVIE'S SELLS ICE? I THINK THEY DO. THEY DO. DO YOU THINK THAT MAYBE THIS KIOSK IS POPULAR BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO BUY ICE LIKE IN THAT VICINITY? SURE. THAT'S A COMPONENT. SO IF JOVIE'S WHEN 
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JOVIE'S IS IN OPERATION, THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF AVAILABILITY FOR ICE. THERE WOULD BE FROM THE GROCERY STORE PERSPECTIVE, THE KIOSK MAY SERVE NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN FOR GROCERY, BUT OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY JUST NEED ICE. SO I MEAN, IT DEPENDS. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 25 YEAR'S U. P THIS CURRENT THE CURRENT KIOSK HAS BEEN THERE FOR 19 YEARS AND HAS NEEDED A REFRESH FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO SO WE'RE LOOKING THEY WERE LOOKING AT OFFERING A, A LONGER TIME PERIOD WHEN THE KIOSK HAS ALREADY BECOME DILAPIDATED BEFORE THE END OF THE TIME, THE SUP TIME PERIOD THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. I DON'T THINK THEY THAT CALALCULATION WAS PUT IN PLAY FOR FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION. HAVE. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A WATERMILL EXPRESS AT LIKE A. RESTAURANT IN A RESTAURANT PARKING LOT THAT LIKE A STEAKHOUSE OR, I DON'T KNOW, A PIZZA PLACE OR MAYBE EVEN A MARSHALL'S OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I, I HAVEN'T REALLY, I HAVE NOT SEEN THESE KIOSKS IN TOO MANY PLACES THAT I PERSONALLY GO TO. AND I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS ALSO IN AN EFA, IT'S IN THE WEDGE. SO I WANTED TO MENTION LIKE THESE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS DON'T NECESSARILY FURTHER, THE USE ITSELF DOESN'T. FURTHER WHAT WE HAVE SET OUT IN GARLAND ON THE RISE, BUT THE UPGRADE DOES MAKE THE SITE LOOK A LITTLE BETTER WITH LANDSCAPING. SO FROM THE GARLAND ON THE RISE ANALYSIS PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE WOULD SAY IT'S NEUTRAL FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. SO IF THIS RELOCATION, BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A RELOCATION, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT TYPE OF YEAH, IF, IF THE RELOCATION ISN'T APPROVED, THEN IT WOULD STAY THERE UNTIL HEB DECIDES WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THAT SITE. IT CAN TECHNICALLY, YES. SO I GUESS MY, MY MAJOR QUESTION IS, DOES IT MOVE THE THE CORRIDOR, THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR, THE WEDGE TOWARD OUR TARGET FUTURE? DOES IT RAISE THE CORRIDOR'S VALUE PER ACRE? I MEAN, WE HAVE FIVE QUESTIONS IN FRONT OF US ON THE DAIS. AND, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO JUST APPLY THAT TO EACH ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE MAP, PLEASE? SO. THIS LITTLE OCTAGON, THIS IS WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS. THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING. OKAY. DO WHAT? SAY IT AGAIN. SORRY. WHERE YOUR RED DOT IS. WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT IS? THAT IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING IT TO BE RELOCATED. YES. WHERE IS OKAY. 
          THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY. SO THIS WOULD MOVE IT FROM THIS LITTLE DEAD ISLAND. 
          THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING THERE EXCEPT FOR PARKING SPACES THAT NO ONE USES, BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO RIGHT THERE, OVER PAST THE DRIVE CLOSER TO THE MCDONALD'S. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT OF WANTING TO ENHANCE THE CORRIDORS. DENYING THIS SUP ISN'T GOING TO DO ANY GOOD BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? BECSE EVEN IF THEY WERE TO PUT THE NEW THE NEW BUILDING AT THE EXISTING LOCATION, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO AN SUP FOR THAT, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE JUST GOT AN UPDATED WATER MILL AT SHILOH AND WALNUT. AND IT IT IS VERY IT'S FANCY. IT'S FANCY. THE LIGHTING IS MUCH BETTER. THEY DID ADD TREES INTO THE PARKING LOT. I WON'T TELL YOU HOW. I WAS TOO BUSY STARING AT THE TREES AND RAN OVER ONE OF THOSE 
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PARKING THINGS. BUT WHATEVER. BUT IT IS A VAST DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT WAS THERE. DO WE HAPPEN TO KNOW WHY THEY'RE MAKING THE RELOCATION? FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO IT MORE. BUT BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN CONVEYED TO STAFF, IS THAT JOVIE'S MAY PURSUE A PET SITE WHERE IT'S IT CURRENTLY IS. SO TO CLEAR THAT UP, THEY'RE PROPOSING THEY'RE WORKING WITH WATER MOLE TO RELOCATE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE TO FACILITATE THAT PET SITE. OKAY, SO JOVIE'S OWNS WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY AT AND THEY OWN THE SAME SPOT WHERE THEY'RE MOVING, THEY'RE RELOCATING TO. CORRECT. OKAY. SO IT'S ALL THE SAME OWNER, EXCEPT FOR NOW YOU'RE INCREASING YOURENSITY CLOSER TO THE MCDONALD'S VERSUS THIS ONE SPOT THAT THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW WHERE THERE'S LITERALLY POTHOLES AND PARKING SPOTS WITH NOWHERE TO ACTUALLY EVEN GO. SO THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE. I ACTUALLY TRIED TO LOOK AT THE WATERMILL ON GOOGLE MAPS, BUT THERE'S A STREET VENDOR PARKED IN FRONT OF IT, SO YOU CAN'T SEE IT. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO CENTERVILLE. I, I, BECAUSE WE JUST GOT THE ONE REDONE ON SHILOH AND WALNUT. I, I CAN, I CAN BE IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE IT IS A VAST DIFFERENCE AND JOVIE'S THEY MIGHT SELL ICE. I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO A GROCERY STORE TO BUY A BAG OF ICE. I DON'T WANT TO. SOMETIMES I DON'T WANT PEOPLE. BUT ALSO SOMETIMES YOU NEED BULK ICE AND SO YOU CAN. THAT'S WHAT THESE. THESE KIOSKS ARE REALLY GOOD FOR, NEEDING BULK ICE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET A BAG. BACK IN THE DAY BEFORE THEY DID BULK BULK ICE, YOU BOUGHT BAGS AND BAGS AND BAGS AND THEN THERE WAS TRASH EVERYWHERE. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE THE, THE VALUE IN THE KIOSKS, BESIDES THE FACT THAT I FREQUENT OUR KIOSKS. SO I'M, I'M FINE WITH IT. I LIKE IT BETTER OVER BY THE MCDONALD'S SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE DENSE OVER THERE. ANYWAY. SO THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S RIGHT THERE. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, HOW MANY YEARS DO THEY HAVE LEFT ON THEIR EXISTING SUV? THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE AN SUP. THEY PREDATE THE GDC. THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO GET ONE WHEN THEY WERE LOCATED AT THE BEGINNING A NOT A. THEY'RE BASICALLY GRANDFATHERED IN WHERE THEY'RE WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED. BUT IF THEY LOSE THAT SITE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE THE SITE IN THAT STRUCTURE. SO FOR THEM TO REPLACE THAT STRUCTURE AND TO RELOCATE BOTH TRIGGERS THE SUP OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO MENTION THAT THE UPDATE THAT THEY DID AT SHILOH AND WALNUT WAS SIGNIFICANT. IT REALLY DRESSED IT UP NICELY. AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE IN ONE OF OUR THAT'S IN OUR MEDICAL DISTRICT. 
          AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WILL LISTEN TO THE APPLICANT. I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION. YES. AND SO WE'LL SAVE THE REST FOR THEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SIR. COUNCILMEMBER. QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO ARE THERE ANY NEARBY ICE DISPENSERS? THIS DID NOT LOOK INTO THAT, YOU CALL IT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO CALL IT. 
          I DID NOT LOOK INTO THAT. SO I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COUNCILMEMBER TRENTON? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. QUICK QUESTION. SO JUST SUMMARIZE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND FOR 25 YEARS AND STAFF RECOMMEND 15 YEARS. WHAT IS THE REDEVELOPMENT GOAL FOR THAT AREA? BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT 15 YEARS. WHY IS WHY WE PICKED 15 YEARS, WHY WE PICKED 15 YEARS. WE TRY TO STAY AS CLOSE TO THE TIME PERIOD GUIDELINE AS POSSIBLE. SO TECHNICALLY AS U P TIME PERIOD, I MEAN, ANY POLICY DOCUMENT OR ANY CODE CAN NEVER ADDRESS ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WILL COME BEFORE US. SO WHEN WE SAID NEW CONSTRUCTION 20, 25 TO 30 YEARS, WE WERE ENVISIONING 25 TO 30 YEARS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT YES, IT'S A NEW STRUCTURE, BUT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY NEW DEVELOPMENT. SO WE TRY TO KIND OF STAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT SPECTRUM, WHICH IS 15. THANK YOU. AND YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THIS THIS IS THE BASED ON OUR GOAL 
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AND ON THE RIGHT, THIS IS KIND OF NEUTRAL TO US JUST FROM THE GARLAND ON THE RIGHT PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT ADVANCES THE CORRIDOR THE WAY GARLAND ON THE RIGHT WOULD WANT TO, BUT BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW CURRENTLY, JOVIS IS COMING IN THERE. PLUS IT'S AN UPGRADE AND SOME LANDSCAPING IN THAT PARKING LOT, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE ANY LANDSCAPING ON IT. IT DOES MAKE THE SITE LOOK JUST A TAD BIT BETTER. SO JUST BALANCING THOSE TWO, WE WOULD SAY IT, OUR ANALYSIS WOULD BE NEUTRAL JUST FROM THE GARLAND ON THE RIGHT SIDE. OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CASE IS APPROVAL WITH 15 YEARS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NONE. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE APPLICANT UP? RICK KELLY. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR PRESENTATION. MY NAME IS RICK KELLY. THIS IS 3616 AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE. JUST JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE AND WHAT KIND OF GOING ON. THIS IS AN OLD UNIT FOR US, THE ONE THAT WE WANTED TO REPLACE FOR A LONG TIME. SORRY. 
          IT IS UNIQUE IN THAT WHEN WE DID THIS ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE IT WAS AT A CORRIDOR, A SPECIAL CORRIDOR GOING INTO GARLAND. THERE WAS A MASONRY REQUIREMENT, SO WE HAD TO BRICK THE UNIT. THAT'S NOT COMMON FOR US. WE DON'T LIKE A POROUS MASONRY BECAUSE IT MAKES IT HARDER TO KEEP IT CLEAN. THE SURFACE WE USE NOW LOOKS LIKE STUCCO, BUT IT'S A VERY, VERY HARD, VERY EASY TO CLEAN, LONONG WEARING SURFACE ON OUR NEWER FACILITIES. BUT THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP THERE. WE DON'T CONTROL THE PARKING LOT AROUND US IN TERMS OF UPKEEP. THAT'S ON OUR LANDLORD. UNFORTUNATELY NOT. NOT US. IN THIS CASE, WE WE WENT TO OUR LANDLORD IN TERMS OF UPGRADING, UPDATING OUR UNIT TO OUR NEW FACILITY. DURING THAT PROCESS, THEY ASKED US TO RELOCATE TO THE OTHER PART OF THE PROPERTY. SO THEY FELT THAT THERE WAS A HIGHER AND BETTER USE FOR. WE CURRENTLY ARE. SO WE AGREED TO THAT WITH THEIR SUPPORT. THIS IS H-E-B AND HENCE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW. IN GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH STAFF, WE'VE AGREED TO LANDSCAPE AROUND OUR UNIT. I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO A BENCH THAT THEY REQUESTED. JUST TRY TO BEAUTIFY THE WHOLE PROPERTY. PLUS, I KNOW THAT H-E-B IS DOING A LOT OF LANDSCAPING AND A LOT OF A LOT OF THINGS TO IMPROVE THINGS. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCILMEMBER LUCK, THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. I, YOU KNOW, I, I'M I'M NOT TRYING TO BROWBEAT YOU IN ANY WAY. I REALLY AM NOT. I JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS AREA IS TARGETED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO THIS AREA IS LIKE TOP TIER. AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT A, A KIOSK OF ANY KIND, NOT JUST ICE OF ANY KIND REALLY ELEVATES THE, THE QUALITY OF, OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER. SO IT REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING PERSONAL. AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE REVITALIZATION THAT YOU'VE DONE IN OTHER AREAS OF GARLAND. I WISH THAT YOU HAD DONE THAT AT THIS LOCATION, YOU KNOW, BEFORE 19 YEARS. THAT GIVES ME PAUSE THAT. REVITALIZATION OF YOUR FACILITIES IN, YOU KNOW, 25 IS, ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. SO FOR THAT, YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I'M REALLY, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IN OTHER AREAS. 
          MY, MY HOPE FOR THIS AREA IS TO REALLY ELEVATE THE, THE OFFERINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA. SO FACILITY, I HAVE REALLY, REALLY GOOD LOOKING. SO AND THERE'S MORE TO THIS. WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF CUSTOMERS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS. IT'S NOT JUST THE ICE UNIT THAT'S ACTUALLY SECONDARY. OUR PRIMARY CUSTOMER IS A WATER CUSTOMER. 
          THEY COME TO US BECAUSE WE'RE A VERY, A VERY HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT, BUT PROBABLY THE MOST AFFORDABLE PRICE THAT YOU'LL FIND. A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS ALSO, THEY WANT TO RECYCLE OR THEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RECYCLE PLASTIC BOTTLES. SO THEY BRING THEIR OWN BOTTLE TO FILL THIS UP RATHER THAN BY PET, WHICH IS A LITTLE PLASTIC BOTTLES OR SOME OTHER OTHER 
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THING THAT GETS USUALLY JUST ON THE TRASH AND NOT RECYCLED. WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT USE THIS FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT A LOT OF IT IS, IS WATER, NOT JUST ICE, AND IT'S A COUNCILPERSON, DUTTON SAID. A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS TO ARE BULK CUSTOMERS, SO THEY RATHER THAN GETTING EIGHT BAGS OF ICE, THEY WILL COME TO US WHERE THEY CAN LITERALLY JUST FILL UP LIKE A MARINE COOLER WITH HIGHS. I UNDERSTAND, AND I'VE SEEN PEOPLE GET ICE AND THROW THEIR BAGS ON THE GROUND AND. WATER EVERYWHERE. AND I MEAN, I THERE'S A, THERE'S A KIOSK AT KINGSLEY AND NO, I'M SORRY. MILLER. AND FIRST, THAT IS A, A, YOU KNOW, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU NEVER WANT TO BE AS A KIOSK. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE IMAGES THAT I GET WHEN I THINK ABOUT ICE AND WATER KIOSKS. I WOULD SAY WE'RE AT 1300 UNITS NATIONWIDE FOR ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS ARE COMPANY OWNED AND OPERATED. I KIND OF SHARE YOUR DISTASTE FOR SOME OF OUR COMPETITORS. OF COURSE, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THEM. THE THING THAT I, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE DO IS WE CLEAR THOSE GUYS OUT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COMPETE WITH US BECAUSE ALL OF OUR UNITS ARE SERVICED, SANITIZED, MAINTAINED DAILY BY OUR BY COMPANY TECHNICIANS. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. I LOVE YOUR WATER. I KNOW I'VE TOLD YOU THAT BEFORE, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T DRINK, I DON'T EVEN DRINK WATER, HONESTLY. BUT I WILL DRINK WATER FROM THE WATER. SO I'M VERY EXCITED FOR OUR ICE MACHINE TO OPEN UP. WHAT? DO YOU GUYS USE? LIKE A SPECIAL FILTRATION FOR YOUR WATER? LIKE IT'S NOT JUST REGULAR, LIKE IT'S ALL BASED AROUND OUR OH, IT'S BASICALLY A WATER PURIFICATION PLANT. SO REVERSE OSMOSIS IS, IS THE PRIMARY FILTRATION WHICH TAKES OUT. PHARMACEUTICALS FOREVER. CHEMICALS, ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE INCREASINGLY CONCERNED ABOUT. BUT THERE'S OZONATION CARBON FILTRATION, ONE, FIVE AND TEN MICRON FILTERS, ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT THAT HITS IT BEFORE IT'S VENTED IN CASE THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF BACTERIA. IT'S A VERY, VERY ROBUST PURIFICATION SYSTEM. 
          AND WE MAKE OUR ICE WITH THAT PURIFIED WATER. AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I THINK LIKE WE WE ONLY KNOW WHAT WE KNOW, RIGHT? SO JUST I LOOK AT A WATERMELON, I'M LIKE, OH, WELL, THEY JUST TAPPED INTO THE MAIN WATER LINE. WHAT AM I GETTING? BUT IT DEFINITELY IS BETTER QUALITY. I ALSO CAN GUARANTEE THAT THE WATERMILL EXPRESS WILL WORK 9.8% OF THE TIME. AND IF IT DOESN'T, THERE'S A NUMBER ONE 800 NUMBER TO CALL. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS FIXED THE NEXT DAY, BUT I'VE GONE TO KROGER TO REFILL MY JUGS BECAUSE IT WAS VERY LATE AT NIGHT AND I DIDN'T WANT TO STAND BY THE KIOSK. AND KROGER'S MACHINE DIDN'T WORK AND IT DIDN'T WORK THE NEXT DAY OR THE I MEAN, FOR LIKE THREE WEEKS IT DIDN'T WORK. SO I'VE GONE ONE TIME TO WATERMILL AND IT DIDN'T WORK AND IT WAS FIXED THE NEXT DAY. SO. WHICH I THINK IS SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF YOUR BUSINESS AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE IS TAKEN CARE OF. IT'S ALWAYS CLEAN OUT THERE, NOT JUST IF Y'ALL COULD JUST OPEN SHILOH AND WALNUT, I'D BE VERY HAPPY. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. LET ME SAY THAT I THINK THAT WHAT WE ALL MAY BE EXPERIENCING TONIGHT IS. LIVING INTO THE NEWNESS OF OUR CBD STUDY AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING AND OUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING WITH OUR CORRIDORS AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING. IT'S A GOOD THING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WE'RE ALL I KNOW, I'M LEARNING, I'M LEARNING. WHAT DOES THAT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY GOING TO ENTAIL? WHAT I'M GETTING TONIGHT IS YOU ARE AN EXISTING BUSINESS, CORRECT? YES, SIR. IN THAT CORRIDOR. YES, SIR. AND I WOULD THINK THAT WITH ALL THIS GETTING READY TO TAKE PLACE THERE, ANY BUSINESS IN THAT CORRIDOR IS GOING TO BE DOING ONE OF TWO THINGS, EITHER 
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SPRUCING IT UP, MAKING IT BETTER, OR GETTING READY TO GET OUT THAT SIMPLE. AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE READY TO SPRUCE THINGS UP. YOU'RE READY TO MAKE YOUR BUSINESS BETTER AND TO MAKE IT MORE AVAILABLE AND TO UPGRADE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I WAS NOT HERE TO HEAR ALL THE CONVERSATION A FEW MOMENTS AGO, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU AND YOUR LANDLORD HAD A DISCUSSION. AND THAT DISCUSSION, YOU'RE GOING TOTO BE MOVING TO A NEW LOCATION AS A RESULT OF THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, IT'S ALL CONTINGENT ON THIS. SO WE HAVE A LONG TERM LEASE CURRENTLY. LIKE I SAID, WE WANTED TO UPGRADE THE OLD FACILITY. AND SO WHEN WE WENT TO THEM, THEY SAID, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, EXCEPT WE REALLY WOULD RATHER YOU RELOCATE OVER HERE TO DO THAT. AND THEY HAVE RELOCATION RIGHTS ON THE LEASE. BUT AGAIN, ALL THAT'S CONTINGENT ON ON THE SUP. AND IT'S ALSO SOUNDING LIKE AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE THAT JOVIS WILL PROBABLY SELL ICE, BUT EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS ICE IS NOT GOING TO WANT TO GO TO JOVIS. THAT'S CORRECT. SO IT'S A SITUATION OF WHERE WHEN I WHEN I GET READY TO BARBECUE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, I COME TO THE ICE HOUSE BECAUSE YOU GIVE ME THE MOST ICE FOR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY. SIR, I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING IN LINE AT JOVIS OR ANY OF THE THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I GUESS NOW MY QUESTIONS BECOME AGAIN TO STAFF. IS THIS BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF ANY OF THE GUIDELINES THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED AS IT RELATES TO. THE REQUEST THAT THEY ARE KING TONIGHT, GUIDELINES IN THE WAY OF ZONING AND THE WAY OF THE SUPI KNOW THE SUP THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS. BUT IF EVEN IF WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE SUP, WOULD THEY HAVE TO MOVE FROM THE LOCATION THEY WERE IN PRESENTLY SIR BE ABLE TO REMAIN THERE? ARE THERE ANYTHING ARE THEY DOING ANYTHING THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR GUIDELINES AS IT RELATES TO ZONING? I'M NOT AWARE THEM COMING HERE TONIGHT FOR THE SUP IS WITHIN OUR PROCESS PROCEDURES WITHIN THE PROCEDURES. WITH ALL THAT I'M HEARING, I JUST DON'T. AND DON'T GET ME WRONG EITHER I'M GOING TO HAVE A SITUATION THE VERY SAME AS WHAT THIS COUNCIL, THIS THESE OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE HAVING. THAT IS, WHAT AM I GOING TO ALLOW? WHAT IS IT THAT I WANT TO SEE IN THOSE CORRIDORS WHEN I SEE AN EXISTING BUSINESS, THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, ATTEMPTING TO ENHANCE AND TO UPGRADE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I CAN'T SEE THROWING THAT BUSINESS OUT. AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, I WILL PROBABLY BE SUPPORTING THIS SUP. NOW, FOR THE TIME FRAME THAT WE HAVE, IS HE WITHIN THE STIPULATIONS OF WHAT YOU AND THE COMMISSION HAVE ASKED FOR OR REQUESTED? THEY REQUESTED. SO THE APPLICANT REQUESTED 30 YEARS, THREE YEARS, AND WE'RE TALKING 20 RECOMMENDED 1515 PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED. 2525 OKAY, I THINK I WOULD GO WITH THIS ON A 15 YEAR BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR. SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD ONE UPDATE. SO THE CATEGORY THAT WE TRIED TO FIT THEM FROM WITHIN THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINE IS 8 TO 15. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION TO CITY COUNCIL. AND FOR SAM LUCK, THERE IS ANOTHER KIOSK WITHIN 2500FT OF THIS LOCATION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMEMBER LUCK. YES, I WANTED TO VERIFY WITH YOU, FERGUSON ICE VENDING MACHINE IS LESS THAN HALF A MILE AWAY. ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS 0.9 MILES AWAY. ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS 1.7 MILES AWAY. ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS 2 TO 2.5 MILES AWAY. ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS 2.7 MILES AWAY, AND ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS WITHIN THREE MILES. SO THERE ARE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR. WATERMILL EXPRESS IS WITHIN THREE MILES AND OF OF THIS LOCATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. I THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR NABILA, ON YOUR 15 YEAR RECOMMENDATION, WOULD IT BE SAFE TO ASSUME THAT PART OF THAT THOUGHT WAS THAT IT WOULD ENSURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE LATEST MODEL OF WATERMILL EXPRESS IN THE FUTURE? HONESTLY, NO. WE WERE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE LATEST MODEL AT THAT TIME. 
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FOR THE TIME PERIOD, WE TRY TO JUST STAY CLOSE TO THE THE CHART. SO AND FOR THESE KIND OF STRUCTURES, BECAUSE JOVIS IS COMING IN, IT'S NEW, IT'S GOING TO BE NEW. AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH JOVIS. WE JUST THOUGHT 15 YEARS BETWEEN FROM 8 TO 1515 WOULD BE PRACTICAL. BUT OBVIOUSLY EIGHT WOULD ALSO BE WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED TIMELINE. OKAY. I WOULD I WOULD BE THIS IS A THIS IS A LONG STANDING BUSINESS THAT IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, THEY CAN REMAIN CORRECT. IF JOVIS ALLOWS THEM TO CORRECT, THEY JUST CANNOT IMPROVE. RIGHT. THAT'S WHERE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL IS BASED. UPON THAT, WE WILL BE GETTING AN IMPROVEMENT WITH IT. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK. THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT, MA'AM. SO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, AM I JUDGING AGAINST THE PLANS FUTURE OR JUST DEFENDING WHAT IS THERE NOW? SO. SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU AS YOU VOTE. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IF THIS WASN'T APPROVED FOR THAT, JOVIS WOULD TERMINATE THE LEASE AND PUT THE PAD SITE THERE THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO PUT THERE. 
          HOWEVER, THEY DON'TT HE THAT OPTION. I AM, I AM OKAY WITH I THINK THAT THERE'S A COMPROMISE WITH AN EIGHT YEAR'S U P. SO I MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PLAN AS PRESENTED WITH AN EIGHT YEAR'S U P. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WITH EIGHT YEAR SP AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARRAWAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MAYOR PRO TEM ORT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH LIMITING THE SUP, BUT EIGHT YEARS SEEMS PRETTY PRETTY SHORT BECAUSE IT IS NEW CONSTRUCTION I WOULD I DON'T KNOW I, I WILL I WOULD ASK THAT WE THAT THAT WE HAVE A 15 YEAR'S U P. ARE YOU MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR AMENDMENT MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. DOES THE MOTION MAKER CONCUR? I WOULD CONCUR WITH. TEN. AND TEN YEARS. OKAY. YES, I CONCUR WITH TENURE TO THE SECOND CONCUR. SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCIL? I'VE HEARD ALL DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND IT'S I MEAN, WE'RE SO. WE'RE LOSING THE FOREST FOR THE TREES HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE INCREMENTAL CHANGES TO OUR CORRIDORS. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN UPGRADE. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT STAFF SAID SHE DOESN'T THINK THIS ADVANCES THE CORRIDOR. BUT THEN IN THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE SAYS THIS DOES MAKE THE SITE LOOK BETTER. 
          WE'RE GETTING MIXED MESSAGES FROM OUR OWN STAFF ON THIS ITEM. WHEN THIS IS UNQUESTIONABLY A UPGRADE, IT'S A NEW, BRAND NEW UNIT. IT'S MOVING FROM ONE SITE TO ANOTHER TO ALLOW NEW DEVELOPMENT IN A PAD SITE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT JOVIS HEB WANTS TO PUT A NEW PAD SITE, NEW GROWTH. IF THIS IS NOT NEW GROWTH AND NEW DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE THEY'RE LEGALLY RIGHT NOW. THEY CAN OPERATE FOREVER IF THEY WANTED TO RIGHT NOW. I JOVIS IF HEB DIDN'T WANT THIS USE THERE. THEY SELL WATER ALL THE TIME. THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM AND WELL, THEY CAN'T CANCEL LEASE EITHER. WE HEARD THAT THEY CAN'T. SO THEY CAN BE THERE FOR AS LONG AS THEY WANT. IF WE WANT TO UPGRADE OUR CORRIDORS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD APPROVE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD APPROVE. FOR A LONG TIME. I THINK THE THE ORIGINAL INTENT, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST PROPOSED THE TIMELINE GUIDELINE FOR THE ALL THE SUPS, IT WAS BASED UPON HISTORICAL STANDARDS ABOUT. AND EVEN STAFF SAID THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION. 30 YEARS. 
          AND I REALLY DIDN'T HEAR A GREAT ANSWER TO WHY WE SHOULD REDUCE IT DOWN TO 15. EVEN WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID. 25, I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR MORE YEARS ON THAT END. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE IF THAT MEANS VOTING AGAINST THIS NECESSARILY TO HAVE MORE YEARS, I'M INCLINED TO VOTE AGAINST IT, AND THEN WE'LL BE STUCK WITH LESS DEVELOPMENT IN THAT QUARTER IF IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED WITH THAT BEING THERE WITH WITH NO PAD SITE. SO. I 
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THINK THE THING IS TO, TO, TO GIVE THEM A LONGER REWARDING INVESTMENT. MUCH LIKE THE CASE, WE JUST HAD REWARDING GOOD INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY ALONG THESE FOCUS AREAS. AND WITH THAT, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR TENURE S, U, P AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION. SEEING NONE, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE. ITEM PASSES 6 TO 2 WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. MOVE ON NOW TO 
          [13. Councilmember Margaret Lucht
Community Multicultural Commission — Dr. Babetta Hemphill]
CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT BY COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          LOOK, MA'AM. YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO SIR DOCTOR BARBARA HEMPHILL TO THE COMMUNITY MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION. I HAVE A NOMINATION TO THE COMMUNITY MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION AND A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE. MAY I PLEASE HAVE A SECOND IN THIS QUEUE? THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CHAN. ITEM IS APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS, DO YOU 
          [14. Councilmember Joe Thomas Jr.
All Abilities Committee — Megan Gonzalez]
HAVE A NOMINATION, SIR? YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MEGAN GONZALEZ TO THE ALL ABILITIES COMMITTEE. HAVE A NOMINATION BY COUNCILMEMBER THOMAS, A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DUTTON. 
          PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE ON THIS NOMINATION. THAT IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. CONGRATULATIONS TO 
          [ CITIZEN COMMENTS]
THOSE TWO NEW MEMBERS OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. NOW, MOVING ON TO CITIZEN COMMENTS, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS ISSUES NOT ON THE MEETING AGENDA MAY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. HOWEVER, ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, COUNCIL IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT ON THE POSTED AGENDA. MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS TONIGHT? YES, SIR. WE DO. ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER? YES. 
          THOMAS DIVINS. ENDEAVORS. LEAVING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          MY NAME IS TOM DIVERS. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE ASSOCIATION, AND I'M ALSO A POLICE OFFICER ASSIGNED TO THE PATROL DIVISION HERE IN GARLAND. I WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT PROPOSITION A MEANS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BOTH AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS ON THE STREETS OF GARLAND AND SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTS THE MEN AND WOMEN SERVING THE COMMUNITY. OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS, GARLAND HAS CONTINUED TO GROW. 
          WE'RE NOW ROUGHLY A CITY, A CITY ROUGHLY ABOUT 250,000 PEOPLE. AS THE CITY HAS GROWN, SO HAS THE DEMANDS ON OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT NOW, GARLAND HAS ABOUT ONE SWORN POLICE OFFICER FOR EVERY 700 RESIDENTS. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR ONE SECOND. THAT'S ONE OFFICER FOR 700 PEOPLE. OF COURSE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S ONE OFFICER SITTING AVAILABLE FOR EVERY 700 RESIDENTS. OFFICERS ARE ANSWERING CALLS, INVESTIGATING CRIMES, MAKING ARRESTS, WORKING TRAFFIC CRASHES, RESPONDING TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISES, HANDLING SPECIALIZED ASSIGNMENTS, AND TAKING CARE OF MANY OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. SO WHEN AN OFFICER IS TIED UP ON A MAJOR CALL, THAT OFFICER ISN'T AVAILABLE FOR THE NEXT GARLAND RESIDENT WHO NEEDS HELP. THAT'S WHY STAFFING MATTERS TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY. THOSE BUDGET WOULD ADD TEN OFFICERS AND EIGHT EMERGENCY DISPATCHERS. THOSE AREN'T JUST NUMBERS ON A SPREADSHEET. THEY'RE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC, AND MORE OFFICERS WOULD GIVE US MORE CAPACITY TO ANSWER CALLS, PATROL NEIGHBORHOODS, ASSIST OTHER OFFICERS, HANDLE EMERGENCIES, AND DO PROACTIVE WORK. AND THE DISPATCHERS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU CALL 911, THE DISPATCHERS, THE FIRST PERSON YOU TALK TO, THEY GATHER THE INFORMATION, PRIORITIZE THE CALL, AND GET THE RIGHT RESOURCES MOVING. SO ULTIMATELY, THIS COMES DOWN TO A PRETTY SIMPLE QUESTION AS GARLAND HAS GROWN, HAVE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES KEPT UP WITH THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, CRIME AND THE DEMANDS OF OUR OFFICERS HAVE CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, BUT THE NUMBERS OF OFFICERS AVAILABLE TO HANDLE THOSE DEMANDS HASN'T INCREASED AT THE SAME PACE. I'M NOT HERE TO TELL ANYONE HOW TO VOTE. I'M HERE AS A GARLAND POLICE OFFICER AND AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GARLAND POLICE ASSOCIATION TO EXPLAIN WHAT I SEE EVERY DAY. SO WHEN YOU AND 
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YOUR FAMILY NEEDS A POLICE OFFICER, STAFF ISN'T. STAFFING ISN'T JUST AN ABSTRACT BUDGET ISSUE. IT DETERMINES WHETHER SOMEONE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR CALL. IT DETERMINES WHETHER AN OFFICER CAN GET TO YOU WHEN YOU NEED HELP. IT DETERMINES WHETHER WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, INVESTIGATE CRIMES, BE PROACTIVE. INSTEAD OF SIMPLY MOVINFROM ONE CALL TO THE NEXT, GARLAND HAS GROWN. OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS HAVE GROWN AS WELL. PROPOSITION A GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD PERSONNEL. WE NEED TO HELP OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES KEEP UP WITH THAT GROWTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER, CARRIE YARBOROUGH? SIR, IF YOU PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. YARBOROUGH, LONG TIME RESIDENT OF GARLAND. AND I'M ADDRESSING THE ISSUE I'VE ADDRESSED BEFORE WITH THIS COUNCIL, WITH THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A DECENT PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM IN GARLAND. THE ONE WE HAVE IS TOTALLY DEFICIENT. IT CONTINUES TO GET WORSE AS WE SPEAK. I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE TO THE COUNCIL THAT ON 19 DAYS THIS YEAR, 15 OF THOSE, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC TRANSIT. WHEN I WANTED TO TAKE IT, 15 OUT OF 19 DAYS, THERE WAS NOTHING. AND THEN ON OTHER DAYS, THE BUS TRANSPORTATION IS NOT THERE 40% OF THE TIME BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OPERATORS TO OPERATE THOSE BUSSES DART CAN'T GET OPERATORS FOR THEIR BUSSES BECAUSE OF THE TOTAL 100% MISMANAGEMENT OF THE SYSTEM FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO REFORM. THEY REFUSED TO DO IT. THEY REFUSED TO MAKE CHANGES. THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, ALL OF WHICH NEED TO BE GOTTEN OFF THE BOARD, AND A WHOLE NEW SLATE OF BOARD MEMBERS ELECTED, BUT THEY'RE ELECTED BY CITY COUNCILS. THE TWO PEOPLE WE HAVE ON THE CITY, ON THE DART BOARD THAT'S APPOINTED BY THIS CITY COUNCIL, NEEDS TO GO. THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIVE TO THE PEOPLE WHATSOEVER. THEY'RE HALF THE TIME THEY'RE EITHER NOT AT THE MEETING OR NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON. IF I GO TO THE DART BOARD MEETING TO ADDRESS THE MEETING, PEOPLE GET UP AND WALK OUT OF THE ROOM. WHEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME STARTS, OR THEY START LOOKING AT THEIR CELL PHONES OR SOMETHING ELSE NOT PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL TO WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE. THEY'RE MAKING THE COMMENTS OR WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, OR TO WHAT THEY'RE WANTING. 
          DART WAS BAD WHEN IT STARTED. IT'S GOTTEN WORSE EVERY SINGLE YEAR. RIDERSHIP HAS GONE WAY DOWN. OUR NEEDS ARE NOT BEING MET. WE NEED TO GET COMPLETELY RID OF DART. I WAS TOLD EARLIER IN THE YEAR THAT WE HAD OTHER OPTIONS ON THE TABLE, AND THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS AND THAT WE COULD HAVE A PULL ELECTION AS LATE AS NOVEMBER, WHICH I SEE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. NOBOD ON THIS COUNCIL SEEMS TO SEE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH DART, AND THAT DART IS NOT MEETING THE NEEDS. A CITY OF 250,000 PEOPLE HAS A NEED FOR A DECENT PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM. NOT EVERYBODY OWNS A CAR. NOT EVERYBODY CAN DRIVE A CAR. SOME PEOPLE ARE EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY CANNOT DRIVE. SOME ELDERLY PEOPLE CANNOT DRIVE. 
          SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO DRIVE, AND SOME PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD A CAR AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. WE NEED OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE, AND DART SHOULD BE THE LAST RESORT OUR CITY SHOULD LOOK TO. IT'S NO WONDER THAT SIX. THAT OF THE 13 MEMBER CITIES IN DART, THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, ONE HAD TO PULL OUT. ELECTION THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL AND GOT OUT OF DART. 
          NINE CITIES WERE LOOKING AT DOING THAT. NINE OF THE 13 CITIES IN DART WERE WANTING TO HAVE PULL OUT ELECTIONS THIS YEAR. THAT OUGHT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING RIGHT THERE. THEY HAVE HAD A CEO FOR 20 YEARS THAT HAS DONE A HORRIBLE JOB. THE ONE BEFORE THAT DIDN'T EVEN WORK, THAT FOR FIVE YEARS HAS DONE A HORRIBLE JOB BEFORE THAT WAS THERE 20 YEARS AND DID A BAD JOB AS WELL. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE OPTIONS AND GET RID OF DART EVERY CHANCE WE CAN AND REFORM IT, TALK WITH PEOPLE AT DART AND GET OUR OUR REPRESENTATIVES ON DART TO TO BE REINED IN THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB. AND WE NEED PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE GOING TO REPRESENT US. THANK YOU SIR. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER. FINAL SPEAKER, BRIAN BRADFORD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M BRIAN BRADFORD. 718 WEEPING WILLOW ROAD, GARLAND, TEXAS. FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH SOME OF THE MOST DISTINGUISHED CITIZENS OF GARLAND AND FORMING THE VOTE YES OR GARLAND VOTE 
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YES PACK. AND I THINK I HAVE PROBABLY TALKED TO WELL OVER 6 OR 700 PEOPLE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. THAT'S THAT'S QUITE A THAT'S QUITE A TASK FOR AN INTROVERT. BUT BUT I WANTED TO COMMUNICATE TO YOU COUNCIL TONIGHT THAT THERE IS THERE IS THIS COMMON MESSAGE THAT I KEEP HEARING OVER AND OVER AND OVER FROM CITIZENS. AND IT GOES SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK. I DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS. THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND SEE THE PROGRESS THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS MADE OVER THE PAST 5 TO 7 YEARS. THEY THEY SEE WHAT IS IS HAPPENED TO OUR CITY FACILITIES, MOST OF WHICH HAD BEEN BUILT IN THE 1970S AND WE HAD OUTGROWN. 
          THEY SEE THE INCREASED MAINTENANCE AND PARKS. THEY ACTUALLY SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN STREETS. THEY SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS. AND AND WHEN THEY LOOK AT THIS ELECTION AND THEY THEY THEY BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. THEY ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED, DEEPLY CONCERNED, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS. IT'S NOT EASY EXPLAINING MUNICIPAL FINANCE. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE SIMPLY WON'T UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT THEY'RE VOTING FOR. AND SO IF IF YOU ARE A CITIZEN TONIGHT AND YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO VOTE YES, GARLAND.COM. AND THAT THAT WEBSITE PROVIDES INFORMATION THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF NOVEMBER 3RD, VOTE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. IN, IN CLOSING COUNCIL. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, I THINK, DOING A THANKLESS JOB AND, AND AS I WAS SITTING BACK HERE TONIGHT, I COULDN'T HELP BUT REMEMBER THE YEARS I, I SPENT SITTING IN MR. BETTS CHAIR. AND MICHAEL, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING, IT IS A WHOLE LOT MORE FUN ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT? SEEING NONE. COUNCIL, WE WILL RECONVENE OUR WORK SESSION AT 930 AND AT 907. WE
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