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CITY COUNCIL REGULAR SESSION.GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 5TH REGULAR MEETING OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS THE TRADITION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE AN INVOCATION AND RECITAL OF THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEETING LED BY ONE OF OUR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
YOU ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IF YOU SO CHOOSE, BUT YOUR DECISION IS STRICTLY YOUR OWN CHOICE AND WILL NOT AFFECT THE DECISIONS TO BE MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN ANY MANNER.
TONIGHT'S INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK.
GARLAND IS STRONGEST WHEN ITS RESIDENTS ARE INVOLVED, WHETHER THAT MEANS SERVING ON A BOARD, COMMISSION, STARTING A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, PARTICIPATING IN A CRIME WATCH GROUP, VOLUNTEERING WITH A NONPROFIT, OR EVEN SPEAKING UP AT A PUBLIC MEETING LIKE THIS.
VOTING IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WAYS WE TAKE PART.
IN A FEW WEEKS, GARLAND VOTERS WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AT THE BALLOT BOX.
IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TREAT THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE SERIOUSNESS IT DESERVES.
IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LEARN WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, AND WHAT THEY PROPOSE TO DO.
IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO READ EACH PROPOSITION IN FULL, UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD CHANGE, AND CONSIDER WHO IT WOULD AFFECT BEFORE WE CAST OUR VOTE.
IT IS ALSO OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SEEK OUT RELIABLE INFORMATION, QUESTION WHAT WE HEAR, AND RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORS WHO EACH HAVE DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS IN GOOD FAITH.
AND MAY THE DECISIONS MADE IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT REFLECT THE SAME CARE, HONESTY, AND RESPECT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WE HOPE EVERY VOTER BRINGS TO THE POLLS IN NOVEMBER.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
CITY COUNCIL, OCTOBER 5TH, 2026.
TEXT CHRISTINA BEDAYANO, DISTRICT FOUR.
MARGARET LUTCHI, DISTRICT EIGHT.
CARISSA DUTTON, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.
AND TONIGHT BEING THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH, WE HAVE OUR PET OF THE MONTH.
WHO DO WE HAVE WITH US HERE TODAY? THE MAN APPROACHES THE PODIUM WITH A DOG ON A LEASH.
I'M THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATOR HERE AT THE SHELTER AT THE CITY OF GARLAND.
CAPTAIN HAS HAD QUITE A DAY TODAY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, HE'S JUST KIND OF DONE WITH EVERYBODY.
BUT I WILL SAY THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE WE SPENT ALL MORNING AT FOX FOUR TODAY GETTING HIS HEADSHOTS IN, GETTING HIS TIME IN, BECAUSE WE GOT TO BE A PART OF THE 10 SEGMENT, WHICH IS THEY DO A, A SEGMENT CALLED A NEW LEASH ON LIFE AND THEY GET TO PROMOTE THEM ALL OVER THE DFW METROPLEX AREA.
AND I WILL SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE DOG THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUT THERE HAS HAD 100% SUCCESS RATE ON ADOPTION.
SO LET'S ALL PRAY THAT TONIGHT, UH, CAPTAIN GETS ADOPTED BEFORE YOU EVEN WALK OUT.
BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM.
HE IS A TWO-YEAR-OLD, UH, TWO-YEAR-OLD DOG.
YOU WANT TO STAND UP? THE MAN IN THE GRAY SUIT ADJUSTS THE LEASH AND THE PRESENTER PETS THE DOG.
SO CAPTAIN IS A TWO-YEAR-OLD, UH, MIXED BREED, OR AS WE LIKE TO CALL IT, A GARLAND SPECIAL.
UM, WE LIKE TO THINK THAT HE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF HUSKY IN HIM BECAUSE HE HAS A HALF BLUE, HALF BROWN EYE, REALLY NEAT ABOUT HIM.
HE'S UP TO DATE ON ALL HIS VACCINES.
AND BECAUSE HE IS PET OF THE MONTH, HE IS, HIS ADOPTION IS COMPLETELY WAIVED.
AND FREE DOESN'T MEAN TOTALLY FREE.
IT COMES WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS, LIKE YOU HAVE TO WALK HIM, YOU HAVE TO BATHE HIM, YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS, TRAIN HIM, ALL THE FUN STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
BUT I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHO DOESN'T LOVE CAPTAIN? IF YOU GUYS WATCHED THE VIDEO THAT I DID WITH HIM NOT THAT LONG AGO, HE HAS A CAPTAIN'S VOICE.
YES, IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED, PLEASE COME CHECK US OUT THIS WEEKEND.
ALSO, WE'RE DOING FREE ADOPTIONS AT THE SHELTER, UH, THANKS TO THE ASPCA.
AND ALSO ON WEDNESDAY, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY PETS AND YOU GUYS NEED THEM, GET THEM VACCINATED, MICROCHIPPED OR UP TO DATE ON ANY, ANY OF THE, UH, VACCINES, WE'RE HAVING A LOW COST VACCINE CLINIC AT THE SHELTER FROM ONE, UH, TO SIX PM.
YOU CAN GET RABIES, DISTEMPER, FVRCP FOR CATS AND MICROCHIPS, ALL FOR $10.
AND IF NOT, WE HAVE ABOUT 260 OTHER ANIMALS AT THE SHELTER.
THE MAN LEADS A DOG AWAY FROM THE PODIUM.
ON CITY COUNCIL, RECENTLY WE LOST A MEMBER
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OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAS BEEN A PILLAR OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR SO MANY YEARS, AND WE WANT TO TAKE A SPECIAL TIME RIGHT NOW TO HONOR HIM WITH A RECLAM - WITH A PROCLAMATION.SO I'D BE HONORED IF HIS FAMILY WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME FOR THIS.
TWO WOMEN WALK TO THE PODIUM AND STAND ON EITHER SIDE OF THE SPEAKER.
THIS IS A PROCLAMATION HONORING THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF THE HONORABLE BILLY JOE BJ WILLIAMS. THE MAN IN TWO WOMEN STAND.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF GARLAND MOURNS THE PASSING OF THE HONORABLE BJ WILLIAMS, A RESPECT PUBLIC SERVANT, COMMUNITY LEADER, MENTOR, AND LONGTIME ADVOCATE WHOSE LIFE WAS MARKED BY AN UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO SERVICE, INTEGRITY, AND THE BETTERMENT OF HIS COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS MR. WILLIAMS DEVOTED MANY YEARS TO SERVING THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND AS A MEMBER OF THE PROPERTY STANDARDS BOARD, CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, GARLAND PLAN COMMISSION FROM 20, UH, 2002 TO 2008, AND LATER AS A DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL FROM 2012 TO 2018, AND AGAIN FROM NOVEMBER 2020 THROUGH MAY 2026.
THROUGHOUT HIS SERVICE, HE LED WITH CONVICTION AND COMPASSION, ADVOCATING FOR STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS, SOUND INFRASTRUCTURE, RESPONSIBLE GROWTH, AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT IMPROVED THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT GARLAND.
AND WHEREAS MR. WILLIAMS EXTENDED HIS COMMITMENT TO MUNICIPAL LEADERSHIP BEYOND GARLAND THROUGH HIS SERVICE ON THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY COMMITTEE FROM 2013 TO 2014, AND THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES COMMITTEE FROM 2014 TO 2018, REPRESENTING THE INTERESTS OF GARLAND AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION.
AND WHEREAS HIS DEDICATION TO SERVICE WAS DEEPLY ROOTED IN COMMUNITY, INCLUDING HIS LONGSTANDING INVOLVEMENT, MOUNT S- SIGWA MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN RICHARDSON, HIS LIFE MEMBERSHIP IN OMEGA PSI PHI FRATERNITY INCORPORATED, AND HIS LEADERSHIP AS PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP GARLAND UNIT FROM 1996 TO 2010.
AND WHEREAS MR. WILLIAMS BELIEVED THAT LEADERSHIP MEANT CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS TO SUCCEED AND THROUGH HIS CIVIC INVOLVEMENT, MENTORSHIP AND PERSONAL EXAMPLE, HE ENCOURAGED GENERATIONS OF RESIDENTS AND YOUNG PEOPLE TO BECOME ENGAGED, SERVE THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND MAKE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS MR. WILLIAMS WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR NOT ONLY THE OFFICES HE HELD, BUT ALSO FOR THE CHARACTER WITH WHICH HE SERVED, HIS WISDOM, COURAGE, KINDNESS, STEADFAST LEADERSHIP AND WILLINGNESS TO SPEAK WITH PURPOSE ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE HE REPRESENTED.
NOW THEREFORE I, DYLAN HEDRICK, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF GARLAND, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE GARLAND CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF THE HONORABLE VJ WILLIAMS AND EXPRESS OUR DEEPEST CONSOLANCE, DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY, FRIENDS, COLLEAGUES, AND ALL WHO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING AND SERVING ALONGSIDE HIM.
WE RECOGNIZE WITH PROFOUND GRATITUDE HIS EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY OF GARLAND AND CELEBRATE A LIFE DEVOTED TO FAITH, FAMILY, COMMUNITY, AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
THE TWO WOMEN ACCEPT THE DOCUMENT AND SHAKE HANDS WITH THE OFFICIAL BEFORE LEAVING THE PODIUM.
THE OFFICIAL COLLECTS HIS PAPERS AND RETURNS TO HIS SEAT OF THE DAYS.
THANKS AGAIN FOR BEING WITH US HERE AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO TAKE THAT MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE BJ.
HE'S GREAT FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE AND, AND WE'LL CERTAINLY MISS HIM.
MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA, THE FIR - WE'LL MOVE FIRST WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ALL ITEMS UNDER THIS SECTION ARE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY A SINGLE MOTION OF COUNCIL WITHOUT DISCUSSION.
COUNCIL'S HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW EACH OF THESE ITEMS AT A PREVIOUS WORK SESSION AND APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AUTHORIZED AS A CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE EACH ITEM.
I WILL ANNOUNCE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE TO REQUEST THAT ANY ITEM BE REMOVED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.
THE MAYOR LOOKS DOWN AT PAPERS ON HIS DESK.
AND I WILL BE PULLING ITEM NUMBER NINE, THAT'S THE CONFIRMATION
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OF THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT BLOOMBERG AS CHIEF OF POLICE.I'LL READ NOW THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026 REGULAR MEETING.
THE MAYOR SHIFTS THE STACK OF PAPERS.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING BIDS.
2A, APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDER FOR HVAC SERVICES.
2B, JACK COLEMAN TENNIS CENTER RESURFACING.
2C, GP&L FIREWHEEL TAP TESTING AND COMMISSIONING.
2D, LANDFILL ADMINISTRATION REMODEL AND ENTRY SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
2E, CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWARD FOR 2026 ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS GROUP TWO RECONSTRUCTION.
2F, UTILITY AND PAVING IMPROVEMENTS, COLLINGWOOD, NUTMEG AND CAT.
THE GRAY WALL IS BEHIND THE MAYOR.
2G IS GP&L MARQUEE TO PACE TRANSMISSION LINE ENGINEERING SERVICES.
2H, GP&L MARQUEE SUBSTATION TERMINAL ENGINEERING SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE PREVIOUSLY CONDUCTED FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONING CASES.
COUNCIL APPROVED THE ZONING REQUESTS AND INSTRUCTED STAFF TO BRING FORTH THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCES.
3A IS CASE Z2622 LONE STAR GREEN HOMES IN DISTRICT THREE.
ITEM 3B IS CASE Z2625, ZONE DEV IN DISTRICT THREE.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS THE 2027 ANNUAL COUNCIL CALENDAR.
ITEM FIVE IS PROPOSED RENAMING OF JACK COLEMAN TENNIS CENTER.
ITEM SIX IS ELECTRIC UTILITY REVENUE REFUNDING BOND SERIES 2026A.
ITEM SEVEN IS GARLAND HOUSING AGENCY'S ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN.
ITEM EIGHT IS LIBRARY STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE.
ITEM NINE, I'M PULLING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEM 10 IS TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SELECTIVE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, 2027 COMPREHENSIVE GRANT.
AND ITEM 11 IS 2025 HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM, PROGRAM RESOLUTION.
COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY ITEMS YOU WISH TO HAVE PULLED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY? IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO HAVE AN ITEM PULLED AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY? ALL RIGHT.
I MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCLUSION OF ITEM NINE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON.
COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION? MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US.
THE CIRCULAR FLORAL LOGO WITH THE TEXT GARLAND APPEARS, FOLLOWED BY A VOTING RESULTS TABLE SHOWING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS VOTES.
THAT ITEM IS APPROVED EIGHT TO ZERO AND COUNCIL MEMBER SCOVIANO WILL NOT BE JOINING US TONIGHT.
SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THE TOP.
SO THAT ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
I'M BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, OR EXCUSE ME, NUMBER NINE, CONFIRMATION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT VORNBERG AS CHIEF OF POLICE.
I PULL THIS ITEM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LOST IN JUST THE GENERAL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHEN WE APPOINT A NEW POLICE CHIEF TO RECOGNIZE IT AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE GOOD WORK THAT HE'S DONE AS INTERIM POLICE CHIEF, TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS WORK, HIS MANY YEARS OF SERVICE, AND HIS, WISH HIM CONTINUED SUCCESS AS OUR NEW PERMANENT POLICE CHIEF.
AND MR. CITY MANAGER? YES, MAYOR.
TONIGHT I ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, TO CONFIRM, UH, CONFIRM MY APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT THORNBERG AS THE PERMANENT CHIEF OF THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, CHIEF FORNBERG STEPPED INTO THE INTERIM ROLE IN JULY, AND SINCE THAT TIME, HE HAS LED THE DEPARTMENT WITH STEADINESS, UH, PROFESSIONALISM, AND A CLEAR COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
UH, HE DIDN'T TREAT THE JOB AS A PLACEHOLDER.
UH, OVER THESE PAST MONTHS, I'VE LISTENED TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, FROM OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS, FROM RESIDENTS ACROSS OUR CITY, AND I'VE HEARD FROM THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THE MESSAGE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT.
UH, CHIEF FORNBERG HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB, UH, AND THAT MATTERS TO ME BECAUSE THE CHIEF OF POLICE, UH, HAS TO EARN THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE CONFIDENCE OF THE OFFICERS WHO SERVE IT.
UH, AND HE HAS EARNED BOTH, AND I'M CONFIDENT HE'LL BE AN EXCELLENT CHIEF.
I'M PROUD TO MAKE THIS APPOINTMENT, AND I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONFIRM THAT APPOINTMENT THIS EVENING.
DEPUTY MAYOR TIM DUTTON, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE, MA'AM.
MAYOR HEDRICK LOOKS TOWARD DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON.
UM, SO I JUST, I WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY, UM, BIG DEAL, RIGHT? AND WE WERE GONNA SLIDE IT IN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, SO THANK YOU, DYLAN, FOR PULLING IT.
UM, SO LEADERSHIP ISN'T JUST ABOUT WEARING THE BADGE OR HOLDING A TITLE.
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IT'S ABOUT EARNING THAT TRUST, SHOWING UP WHEN IT MATTERS THE MOST, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT EVERY DECISION THAT YOU MAKE AFFECTS THE REAL PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT LEADERSHIP FIRSTHAND.
WE'VE SEEN SOMEONE WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT OUR OFFICERS, OUR DEPARTMENT, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE.
BEING A POLICE CHIEF ISN'T AN EASY JOB.
IT REQUIRES COURAGE, COMPASSION, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THE ABILITY TO LEAD THROUGH BOTH GOOD DAYS AND, AND BAD DAYS.
AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH ME, SO I APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME.
I, I BELIEVE THAT OUR NEW POLICE CHIEF HAS DEMONSTRATED THESE QUALITIES, AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THIS NEXT CHAPTER MEANS FOR THE GARLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, I ALSO FEEL LIKE THIS WILL BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY IF I DIDN'T SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE 9TH STREET BOXING GYM.
THE BELIE - THE BEST POLICE CHIEFS DON'T JUST THINK ABOUT HOW WE RESPOND TO CALLS AND CRIME, THEY THINK ABOUT HOW WE BUILD A COMMUNITY WHERE OUR KIDS HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, WHERE OUR NEIGHBORS, WHERE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FEEL CONNECTED AND PEOPLE TRUST THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE THEM.
CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND ACCEPTING THE RESPONSIBILITY, AND THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING OUR OFFICERS AND OUR COMMUNITY.
AND MATT IS VERY SAD THAT HE CAN'T BE HERE TO TAKE PHOTOS BECAUSE HE WANTS, HE'S READY TO MAKE IT FACEBOOK OFFICIAL.
SO
FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS SIT AT THE DESK.
CAMERA PULLS BACK TO A WIDE SHOT OF THE COUNCIL DESK, WHICH FEATURES SCREENS DISPLAYING THE GARLAND LOGO.
I MOTION WE APPROVE THE CONFIRMATION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S APPOINTMENT OF SCOTT VORNBERG AS CHIEF OF POLICE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK, AND I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, SO MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE FOR US.
THE VOTING RESULTS DISPLAY SHOWS EIGHT YES VOTES, ZERO NO VOTES, AND ONE ABSTENTION.
THAT ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS CLAP THEIR HANDS.
I MUST MENTION ALSO THANK YOU TO ALL THE SHOW OF SUPPORT FROM HIS POLICE FORCE AS WELL.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
OUR FIRST ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FOLLOWING ZONING CASE.
THIS IS ITEM 12A, CONSIDER A REQUEST BY ROCK INK TATTOOS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION, SUP, FOR A TATTOOING/BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT USE ON PROPERTY ZONE DOWNTOWN, UPTOWN SUBDISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN AUTOMOTIVE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT 316 MAIN STREET.
AND MADAM SECRETARY, BEFORE WE HEAR THIS CASE, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ OUR SPEAKER GUIDELINES? YES, SIR.
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IS GIVEN TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY RATHER THAN TO QUESTION THE CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF.
THE CHAIR MAY CALL A SPEAKER OUT OF ORDER IF THE SPEAKER PRESENTS QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION THAT WILL UNDULY DELAY THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS AT THE MEETING.
SPEAKERS SHALL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON A FIRST COME, FIRST TO SPEAK BASIS AS DETERMINED BY THE ORDER IN WHICH THE CITY SECRETARY RECEIVES THE SPEAKER'S INFORMATION.
APPLICANTS ARE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES FOR PRESENTATIONS AND ALL OTHER SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
WHEN THE PODIUM BUZZER SOUNDS, THE SPEAKER MUST END THEIR COMMENTS.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK AND HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE GO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD BY THE CITY SECRETARY.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SEATED AT THE DAYS.
THE WOMAN SITS AND USES A LAPTOP.
UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A TATTOOING BODY PIERCING ESTABLISHMENT AND ITS ASSOCIATED CONCEPT PLAN.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UM, THIS BUSINESS IS CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THAT SAME LOCATION, HOWEVER, IN A DIFFERENT SUITE.
ORIGINALLY, UH, THE SUP WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2016 FOR THREE YEARS, THEN IN 2019 FOR 10 YEARS.
SO THE CURRENT SUP STILL HAS THREE YEARS TO GO.
UM, WITH THIS WHERE THE, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO DO IS TRANSFER THAT, UM, TO GO TO A BIGGER SUI- SUITE WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING.
UM, AS MENTIONED, LOCATION IS 316 MAIN STREET, UH, 0.24 ACRES LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN UPTOWN SUBDISTRICT.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING MAP.
UM, IT IS SURROUNDED BY OUR DOWNTOWN, VERY CLOSE FROM, UH, FROM THIS BUILDING AS WELL.
UH, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THAT, UH, AREA AND THAT BUILDING.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THIS AREA OUT, UH, AS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS.
NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS PROVIDE A MIX OF RETAIL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES.
UH, THIS CENTER SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY SCALED TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
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COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.THE TATTOO BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN DOWNTOWN FOR, FOR A WHILE AND HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE VIBRANCY OF THE DOWNTOWN.
UH, WE DON'T WANNA ESTABLISH THAT A TATTOO BUSINESS IN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS IS APPROPRIATE, BUT AT THIS LOCATION, UM, FOR THIS BUILDING, UH, WE CONSIDER THAT TO BE, UM, KEEPING UP WITH THE COMP PLAN CATEGORY IN THIS CONTEXT.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE MOVING INTO - IMAGES SHOW BUILDING EXTERIOR AND PARKING AREA.
THE SUITE 200, WHICH HAS A RESIDENTIAL UNIT, UH, UP TOP, AND THE TATTOO ARTIST INTENDS TO, UH, LIVE, UH, ON THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT THAT IS, UH, ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN, OF COURSE.
UH, THERE'S NOTHING, UH, MUCH.
THIS KINDA DEPICTS WHAT'S, UM, CURRENTLY THERE.
UH, THE PARKING NEEDS ARE GONNA BE, UM, MET FOR NOW, UH, WITH THE ADJACENT LOT, BUT IT'S UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP.
UH, WITH THIS PROPOSAL, THE APPLICANT IS ADDING TO - DIAGRAM LISTS ZONING AND PARKING.
PLANTERS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND AN ARTWORK.
HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE ART PIECE.
UH, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT THE INSPIRATION FOR THAT ART, UH, PIECE IS, BUT AS STAFF, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO SEE, UM, ART COMING INTO DOWNTOWN AND BEING INTEGRATED WITH BUSINESSES.
UM, THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING, UH, 10 YEARS.
OUR SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINE, UM, RECOMMENDS FIVE TO EIGHT YEARS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR, UH, FIVE YEARS.
UM, WITH THE LIMITED SCOPE OF THIS PROPOSAL, UH - THE RECOMMENDATION SLIDE REMAINS VISIBLE.
WE HAVE WRITTEN THE CONDITIONS SO THAT ONCE THE SUP, IF APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, UH, MOVES ONTO THE BIGGER SUITE, UH, THE FORMER SUP WILL TERMINATE WITHIN 30 DAYS.
THAT, THAT WAY WE'RE PROTECTING - RECOMMENDATION SLIDE SHOWN.
THE CITY AND THE BUILDING FROM HAVING ANOTHER TATTOO, UH, NEXT TO IT.
ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A SECTION THAT DOESN'T ALLOW TATTOO SHOPS TO BE NEXT TO EACH OTHER, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, TWO PLOTTED, POTTED PLANTERS AND, UH, THE EXTERIOR ART- ARTWORK WILL BE LOCATED, UH, IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE FROM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 11:00 AM TO 11:00 PM.
THE PLAN COMMISSION ALSO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR FIVE YEARS.
SINCE THIS IS IN, IN AN EFA IN DOWNTOWN, UM, IN THE DOWNTOWN, UH, PER GARLAND ON THE RISE, WE THOUGH FIVE YEARS IS MORE ON THE SAFER SIDE BECAUSE IT LETS US REEVALUATE, UM, IN A, IN A SHORTER TIMEFRAME, NOT TOO SHORT, BUT IN FIVE YEARS TO SEE IF, UM, THE BUSINESS IS STILL WORKING WELL WITH, UM, THE PROGRESS OF DOWNTOWN.
UM, WE GOT ONE, UM, BUT THAT'S FROM OUT...
UH, ONE IN OPPOSITION THAT'S FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, HOW LONG HAS ROCK INC BEEN OPERATING AT THIS LOCATION? SINCE 2016, FROM WHAT I BELIEVE.
SO WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO PROBABLY OPERATE FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS.
I, I FEEL LIKE A TATTOO, UM, USE IS APPROPRIATE NEXT TO A DOWNTOWN.
MAYBE, YOU KNOW - IN THIS CONTEXT, YES.
IN, IN A LITTLE SHOPPING CENTER IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, PROBABLY NOT, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE LATE HOURS, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF GIVING THEM AT LEAST 10 YEARS JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR PARTICIPATION IN ART INSTALLATION.
I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT, IT'S A CONTINUATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SQUARE AND NIGHTLIFE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HAPPEN, AND, AND IT ACTUALLY EXTENDS THAT NIGHTLIFE PAST THE SQUARE INTO, UH, YOU KNOW, GOING FURTHER OUT LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, OBVIOUSLY, CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE, UM, THE DETERMINATION, UH, TO PROVIDE, UM, 10 YEARS.
IF YOU'RE TRYING TO STICK WITH THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINES, MAYBE EIGHT YEARS COULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE FIVE TO EIGHT IS THE RANGE FOR THESE KIND OF USES.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
I'M ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF STICKING WITH OUR SUP TIMELINES.
MAYBE WE CAN REMEMBER THAT LATER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, LOOK AT THE SCREEN.
MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE APPLICANT? THE MAYOR SITS AT THE CENTER OF THE DAYS.
QUESTIONS? SIR, IF YOU GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT STANDS AT THE PODIUM.
APPLICANT RESTS 10S ON PODIUM.
I THINK 10 MINUTES WILL BE A LOT.
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APPLICANT ADJUSTS HIS POSITION AT THE PODIUM.UM, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROBABLY ABOUT NINE, 10 YEARS AGO.
THE APPLICANT LOOKS DOWN AT HIS NOTES.
I THINK I BRING THIS BACK JUST TO, TO PLANNING.
I WAS SAYING THERE WAS A MATTER OF CHANGING PERCEPTIONS.
THERE WAS AN IDEA OF TATTOOING BEING THE WORST, LIKE, WE'RE GONNA BRING BIKERS AND CHAINS AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
AND, UM, I GUESS AT THE TIME, UH, COUNCIL TRUSTED ME AND, AND ROCKING TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING AND OPERATE AND DO EVERYTHING, UM, UNDER, YOU KNOW, CITY RULES AND EVERYTHING GOOD, YOU KNOW, BE A, BE A GOOD ASSET TO - THE SPEAKER GESTURES.
UH, THREE YEARS AFTER THAT, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AGAIN AND JUST COMMUNICATE EVERYONE THAT WE WERE DOING GREAT.
AND, UH, IT WAS GIVEN TO US ANOTHER 10 YEARS, WHICH WE ARE SUPER THANKFUL FOR IT.
THROUGH THAT, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GROW.
WE WERE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THINGS AND, UH, WE WERE NAMED, UH, TOP, TOP BEST, UH, THREE SHOPS IN GARLAND SINCE 2021, I BELIEVE.
IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE WERE BEST SHOP IN GARLAND, UH, WHICH I'M VERY PROUD OF.
UM, AND WE WANNA KEEP IT LIKE THAT.
SO AS SUCH, UH, WE STARTED HAVING, UH, OR NEEDING MORE, NEEDING MORE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP GROWING AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CLIENTS BETTER.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, ANY ONE OF YOU HAVE BEEN BEFORE.
WE ARE A LITTLE CROPPED IN THERE, SO IT WILL HELP US A LOT TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE ROOM AND JUST CONTINUE TO GROW, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN.
I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO WORK WITH SOME MURALS AND DOING SOME STUFF SOMEWHERE THAT IT'S HANDY.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ALWAYS HELP TRY TO STICK AROUND AND, UH, I WAS ABLE TO BE PART OF GBA TOO, AND A COUPLE THINGS THAT WERE SUPER GOOD TO LEARN AND TO PARTICIPATE IN JUST - THE SPEAKER LEANS TOWARD THE MICROPHONE.
YOU KNOW, HAVE A SHARE TIME WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND MAKE THE AREA GROW.
THOSE THINGS THAT WERE VERY POSITIVE FOR ME, FOR THE CAREER, FOR THE SHOP, AND I GUESS WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST FOR THE AREA.
UH, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN HAVE A COUPLE MORE YEARS JUST TO BE HERE.
10 YEARS IS, IS A LOT OF TIME.
WE FRIENDS WITH EVERYONE IN DOWNTOWN.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND I LOVE THE AREA.
THE SPEAKER TURNS HIS HEAD SLIGHTLY.
IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I WILL LIKE TO STAY THERE UNTIL I RETIRE.
HOPEFULLY I CAN STEAL TATTOO AND SEE ENOUGH TO DO IT.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
AS A CLIENT OF ROCK INC, UM, IT IS VERY, VERY SMALL IN THERE, SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, YOU IN A BIGGER SPACE.
UM, I'M ALSO A FAN OF AN EIGHT TO 10 YEAR, UM, SUP ON THIS ONE.
CARISSA DUTTON LOOKS DOWN AT HER LAPTOP.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT BUILDING.
IT IS HAUNTED, AND HE STILL HAS STUCK IT OUT THIS LONG IN THAT SAME SPOT.
AND NOW YOU WANNA MOVE INTO IT.
SO I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE YOU, YOU GET SOME EXTRA POINTS FOR THAT.
UM, ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVENTUALLY, UM, IS A VERY BIG GAUDY VINTAGE SIGN OUT FRONT.
CHRIS REACHES UP TO TOUCH HIS HAIR.
I SAY GAUDY, BUT - CARISSA DUTTON LEANS FORWARD.
LIKE A, A, HOW JIMMY WALLACE'S SIGN IS.
IT'S A LITTLE GAUDY, RIGHT? BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT OUTSIDE OF YOUR LOCATION, UM, BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT, ONE, YOU DESERVE IT, BUT ALSO IT KIND OF, IT BRINGS IN THE REST OF THE DOWNTOWN FIELD.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN YOUR BACK POCKET.
UM, I AM 100% IN FAVOR OF, UM, APPROVING THIS SUP FOR YOU GUYS, AND YOU HAVE DONE AMAZING WORK.
YOU CONTINUE TO DO GREAT WORK, AND SO...
SIR, UH, DO YOU OWN THIS BUILDING, SIR? NO, I DON'T.
AND SO DO YOU HAVE A CURRENT LEASE? HOW DO YOU, HOW ARE YOU...
SORRY, WHAT? DO YOU HAVE A LEASE OR YOU - MR. MAYOR, SIR.
I'M NOT SURE THAT'S RELEVANT TO WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE OR NOT, WHETHER HE LEASES OR OWNS IT.
WE GENERALLY TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THOSE TOPICS.
UM, THE, UH, THERE WAS A SLIDE THERE, ART PICTURES FOR REFERENCE, AND SHE SAID YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT, UH, ART PIECE.
IT WILL TAKE THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING.
THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING TO EXPLAIN IT.
UH, DO YOU WANT ME TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AFTER OR BEFORE? AFTER.
YOU WANT TO COME UP? COME ON UP.
MAN RESTS HANDS ON THE LECTERN.
YEAH, IF I CAN USE - THE MAN LOOKS DOWN AT THE LAPTOP ON THE LECTERN.
THE MAN PLACES THE PAPER ON THE LECTERN.
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AND CARISSA, I MAY HAVE AN ANSWER TO YOUR.ROBERT SMITH STANDS AT THE PODIUM HOLDING A PRINTOUT.
AN ASSISTANT HELPS ROBERT SMITH ADJUST A PODIUM CONTROLS.
ALL RIGHT, UM, ROBERT SMITH, UH, 115 NORTH 9TH STREET.
UM, I AM THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING AT 316 MAIN.
I, I PURCHASED THIS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, PROBABLY BACK AROUND 2016.
AND, UH, THE PICTURE THAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU IS ACTUALLY A ARTIST RENDERING OF THE EXPANSION OF THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, UM, IN THAT VACANT LOT THAT, UH, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR WAS, WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT FOR THIS DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, BUT THIS IS A RENDERING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, UH, THE, UH, ULTIMATE GOAL OF THAT LOCATION.
THE SIGNAGE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TAKEN FROM THE 1950S.
IT'S A, IT'S A RATHER LARGE MONUMENT SIGN, UM, THAT OF COURSE WILL BE...
I'LL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR APPROVAL AND PROBABLY ALL KINDS OF - RENDERING SHOWS A TAN BUILDING WITH A PARKING LOT.
UM, TO, UH, TO, UH, PUT THAT SIGN, UH, UP THERE, UM, FOR YOU.
THE, UH, ARTWORK, IF YOU LOOK OVER TO THE, UH, FAR RIGHT OF THE, UH, PICTURE, UM, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, IS THE AWNING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING BACK HERE IN ABOUT 30 DAYS.
THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1947.
UM, I HAD THE ORIGINAL PLANS AND THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN THIS MORNING SUBMITTED, UM, BACK TO THE, UH, CITY, UM, UH, BUILDING INSPECTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THAT AWNING.
AND, UM, THE, UH, ARTWORK, UH, DO YOU MIND PUTTING THAT BACK UP? YEAH.
THE ART- ARTWORK'S GONNA GO UNDER THE AWNING.
THEN AN ASSISTANT PACKS UP A LAPTOP AND LEAVES THE PODIUM.
AND I ACTUALLY HAD THIS PIECE COMMISSIONED BY AN ARTIST, UM, UP IN, UM, UP IN MONTANA, ACTUALLY.
UM, WHERE THE, UM, GAS TANKS USED TO GO UNDER THAT AWNING.
THERE'LL BE A HISTORIC MARKER, UH, WHICH IS A SUBJECT MARKER ABOUT THE AJ HEAD SERVICE STATION AND ITS CONTRIBUTION TO THE, UH, BANKHEAD HIGHWAY.
AND NEXT TO IT WILL BE THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF ARTWORK, WHICH I WANTED TO SHOW REPRESENTATION OF OUR STRUGGLE AND SUCCESS OF RECREATING AND BUILDING DOWNTOWN GARLAND OVER, OVER THIS, THESE LAST 20 YEARS.
AND I THINK IT'S A BEAU- BEAUTIFUL REPRESENTATION OF THAT.
AND THOSE TWO ITEMS WILL BE UNDER THE AWNING IN THE PLACE WHERE GAS TANKS WOULD HAVE BEEN BACK ORIGINALLY.
UM, AND, UH, IF WE CAN SWITCH BACK TO THIS THING, THE PROJECTOR.
THE PROJECTOR SCREEN DISPLAYS A METAL SCULPTOR.
THE SPEAKER IN THE RED SHIRT GESTURES TOWARD THE SCREEN WHILE STANDING AT THE PODIUM.
UH, THE ORIGINAL ROCK INK SIGN WILL REMAIN, UM, OVER TO THE RIGHT, BUT THAT IS THE AWNING AND THAT IS THE PROPOSED IDEA FOR A LARGER MONUMENT SIGN IDENTIFYING THE LOCATION.
AN ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING OF A BUILDING AND PARKING AREA APPEARS.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
IS THAT AWNING, IS THAT SOMETHING BRAND NEW OR HAVE YOU BEEN STORING THAT SOMEWHERE SINCE 1947? IT WILL BE BRAND NEW.
UM, BUT IT WILL BE, UM, UH, EXACTLY BUILT WHAT WAS THERE IN 1940.
JUST IT WILL LOOK LIKE IT WAS BUILT IN 1947.
THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, MAYBE AN ATLAS PUSHING THE BALL UP THE HILL.
IS THAT WHAT I - WELL,
CARISSA DUTTON, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.
IF, UH, UH, TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THE WORK I'VE DONE IN THE PAST, SOME OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW, UH, THE COFFEE SHOP ON THE SQUARE, UM, WAS A PROJECT OF MINE.
IT WAS THE VERY FIRST ONE I DID.
SO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WILL BE PUT INTO THIS BUILDING.
AND THE HISTORICAL MARKER, IS THAT, DO YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT OR? I ALREADY HAVE THAT, YES.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU THAT DESIGNATION.
YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR AN AWNING TO PUT IT UNDER.
I, I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE, SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
UH, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO INVEST IN GARLAND, SIR.
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SIR.UH, THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR PRE - UH, FOR PRESENTING THIS.
THIS IS EXCITING AND IT'S, UH, IT'S A SHOW OF, OF YOUR SUCCESS AND, AND PROGRESS FOR GARLAND.
I REMEMBER I WAS ON THE PLAN COMMISSION WHEN THIS FIRST CAME, UH, BACK IN 2016.
I REMEMBER THIS WAS KIND OF A PUSH.
UH, AT THAT TIME, WE HAD THE WONDERFUL LADIES FROM THE GARLAND BIBLE CHURCH THAT CAME DOWN AND THEY, THEY FELT THAT THIS MIGHT...
THEY, THEY WERE QUESTIONABLE ABOUT IT.
BUT, UH, BUT YOU, AT THAT TIME, I BELIEVE YOU HAD YOUR APPOINTMENT ONLY AND, UH, YOUR, UH, I RE - I REMEMBER, WERE YOU MARVEL TRAINED IN, IN ART? I WAS, UH, I'M A COMIC BOOK ARTIST, I'M SELF-PUBLISHED, AND I ALSO, I WAS ALSO WORKING WITH MARVEL.
IT CAME RIGHT IN A MOMENT WHERE I GOT CONTRACTS WITH OTHER, UH, COMICS COMPANIES AND IT JUST WENT...
I WAS WITH JO QUESADA AND SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF MARVEL BACK LIKE 18, 20 YEARS AGO.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS REMEMBERING AND THAT IT'S, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOUR TALENT IS, UH, IS VERY WELL RECOGNIZED AND, AND WE'RE - TEXT.
WE'RE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE YOU IN OUR, IN OUR CITY AND OUR DOWNTOWN AND, AND, UH, HAVING YOUR SUCCESS REALIZED BY NEEDING MORE SPACE THAN THAT.
ARE YOU GOING TO ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL ARTISTS WITH YOU? THE IDEA IS TO ADD SOME MORE ARTISTS, BUT I ALWAYS TRY TO TRAIN MY OWN PEOPLE.
UH, WHOEVER COMES TO WORK WITH ME IS TRAINED UNDER MY...
I HAVE THIS IDEA THAT IF YOU CAN, UH, NOT PERFORM GOOD ARTWORK OR HAVE GOOD TRYING TO REPRESENT RIGHT THE TRADE, YOU CANNOT TATTOO.
SO I TAKE THEM UNDER MY WING, TRAIN THEM FROM SCRATCH, AND THEN I GONNA ADD PEOPLE THAT I'M GONNA TRAIN MYSELF.
AVOIDING BY HABITS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT SOMETIMES COME WITH THE, WITH THE INDUSTRY, RIGHT? WELL, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS FANTASTIC.
AND, AND ROBERT, THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR ADDING ON TO THE BUILDING AND, AND, UH, RESTORING THE CANOPY OR THE, THE AWNING, AS YOU WERE SAYING THAT, UH, I REMEMBER THAT, THOSE, UH, RENDERINGS THAT YOU HAD ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE FANTASTIC.
THE COMBINATION IS UNBEATABLE, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT.
I TOO WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPRESSED AND TO YOU, MR. SMITH, FOR THE SUPPORT AND INVESTMENT THAT YOU CONTINUE TO PUT INTO OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND TO YOU, SIR, IT'S QUITE APPARENT THAT YOU'RE VERY PROFESSIONAL IN WHAT YOU DO, AND TO BE PUTTING TATTOOS ON, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON MEANS THAT YOU REALLY MUST DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
SO WITH THAT, I DO HAVE ONE CONCERN I HAVE A COUNCIL.
AND THAT CONCERN IS I DO RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, I WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS OUR, UH, PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION, HAVE RECOMMENDED A FIVE TO EIGHT YEAR, UH, SUP AS IT RELATES TO THIS, UH, PARTICULAR, UH, PROJECT.
AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY, AS A MATTER OF FACT, APPROVED, UH, THE FIVE TO EIGHT YEAR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD BY PLANNING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO, IT SEEMS IN THE FUTURE...
I'M WAITING FOR LEGAL TO TELL ME STOP AND HIT ME ON THE HAND, EVERYTHING THAT I'M DOING OKAY HERE.
BUT, UH, I THINK THAT WE WANT TO, UH, CONTINUE TO, UH, HOLD OURSELVES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SAID.
WE WANNA HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE PUT INTO THOSE, INTO PLACE, THAT WE HAVE APPROVED.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, UH, I'M, I'M GONNA ASK YOU, SIR, WOULD YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A EIGHT YEAR SUP? TEXT.
I THINK IF WE CAN GET THOSE THREE YEARS THAT WE GOT REMAINING ON OUR SUP AND GET ANOTHER FIVE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, AND COME BACK HERE AND JUST REVIEW EVERYTHING TOGETHER, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.
SO WITH THAT, UNLESS SOMEONE REALLY HAS, UH, A REASON FOR WHY WE SHOULD GO WITH THE 10 VERSUS WHAT WE OURSELVES HAVE APPROVED, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT, PLEASE.
UM, MR. SMITH, UM, THIS IS LOVELY AND VERY, VERY COOL.
COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I SEE NONE.
MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MAYOR DYLAN HEDRICK LOOKS DOWN AT HIS DESK.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARAWAY, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT, SIR.
UH, DEFINITELY THANK YOU GUYS, AND IT LOOKS VERY, VERY COOL, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME TO LIFE.
UM, DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THE EIGHT YEAR SUP.
A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARAWAY FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND A SECOND BY
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DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON.COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THE MAYOR TURNS HIS HEADBOARD THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SEEING NONE, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE.
MOTION BY CARISSA DUTTON, SECONDED BY JOE THOMAS, JR.
THAT ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
MOVE ON NOW TO OUR NEXT ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
CONSIDER A REQUEST BY JP MORGAN CHASE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT 7435.
THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMMUN - PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ZONING TO MODIFY PARKING STANDARDS AND APPROVE A NEW CONCEPT PLAN.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1000 WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UH - THE ROOM FEATURES ROWS OF EMPTY CHAIRS.
WITH THE BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL.
THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO MODIFY PARKING STANDARDS, UH, AND APPROVE A NEW CONCEPT PLAN.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND CURRENTLY, THIS IS DEVELOPED WITH, UM, THIS IS A DEVELOPED SITE WITH THE SAME, UH, BUSINESS, CHASE, UH, BUT A 16,000, ALMOST APPROXIMATELY 16,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SLIDE, SITE LAYOUT.
UM, WITH THIS PROPOSAL, UH, THEY'RE WANTING TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING BUILDING AND PUT A SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER BUILDING, ABOUT, UH, 4,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, UM, ON THAT SITE.
WITH THE BUILDING BEING S- SMALLER, OF COURSE, THE PARKING, UH, REQUIREMENTS, UM, GET WAY LESS, BUT THE SITE IS MOSTLY DEVELOPED WITH PARKING RIGHT NOW, SO THEY'RE FAR EXCEEDING, UM, THEIR, UH, PARKING ALLOWANCE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THEM, UM, COMING FORWARD WITH THE PD.
UM, AS MENTIONED, 1000, UH, WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD, UH, 1.837 ACRES.
IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AS WELL WITH BASE ZONING OF COMMUNITY RETAIL.
UM, THAT PLAN DEVE- DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS FROM, UH, 1970.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION MAP.
UM, THIS IS, UM - TEXT, CASE INFORMATION.
LOCATED ALONG CENTERVILLE AND BROADMOOR.
UM, IT, IT, IT, IT IS IN AN, UH, EFA, UH, ECONOMIC FOCUS AREA.
UH, IT IS SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESSES.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, JOBY'S IS COMING.
WE HAVE ANOTHER CASE TONIGHT, UM, IN THE GENERAL, UH, VICINITY AS, UH, AS WELL.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THIS AREA OUT FOR COMMUNITY CENTERS.
COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE AREAS WITH COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY NON-RESIDENTIAL, SERVING A COLLECTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE PROPOSED USE, THE BANK USE, UM, SMALLER BUILDING WITH THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT I'M ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE, UM, IT DOES FULFILL THE, UM, CATEGORIES, UH, CRITERIA.
AGAIN, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE WEDGE, UM, EFA.
UM, IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY ADVANCE THE EFA, THE GOALS OF GARLAND ON THE RISE.
HOWEVER, UM, THEY'RE INCREASING LANDSCAPING, THEY'RE, UM, ADDING PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, UM, IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE, UM, WITH THE PLACEMAKING, UM, COMPONENT.
SO OVERALL, SITE DEVELOPMENT, UM, DOES SEEM TO BE A, UH, SEEM TO ALIGN WITH GARLAND ON THE RISE.
BUILDING AND PARKING.THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN.
UH, THE TEAL COLOR BUILDING IS WHAT THEY ARE WANTING TO, UH, REPLACE.
THAT IS, UH, ABOUT 4,000 SQUARE FOOT.
UM, WHAT YOU SEE IN RED IS THE PROPOSED FIRE LANE.
THERE'S A RATHER, UM, WIDE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE FROM, UM, CENTERVILLE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UM, TO CLOSE ONE SIDE OF IT AND HAVE ANOTHER SITE OPEN.
IT'LL STILL BE TWO-WAY, UH, BUT THEY'RE CREATING...
THEY'RE MAKING THAT ENTRANCE NARROWER.
MAP LEGEND LIST SITE FEATURES.
UM, WHAT YOU SEE IN HERE, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT IT'S, UH, ORANGE-ISH, UM, CLOSE TO CENTERVILLE.
THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PLACE THE, UM, FALLEN SOLDIER, UH, MEMORIAL THAT, UH, IS CURRENTLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTH ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THEY'RE WANTING TO BRING IT UP FRONT, UM, AND VISIBLE FROM THE STREET AND PUT SOME BENCHES AND CREATE A PLACEMAKING, UM, AMENITY, UH, WITH THAT.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING, UH, A CONTINUOUS ROW OF SHRUB, UH, ON THE WESTERN SIDE THAT YOU COULD SEE IN PURPLE, MACHINTA.
THE SITE PLAN DIAGRAM REMAINS DISPLAYED.
UH, TO THE SOUTH, YOU COULD SEE THE THREE ATM, UH, THE THREE DRIVE-THROUGH LANES.
CURRENTLY, THEY ARE, UM, NOT LOCATED IN THAT AREA.
THEY'RE LOCATED, UH, WHERE YOU SEE MORE GREEN.
SO THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSING TO THE WEST, SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO RELOCATE THEM, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THE, TO THE SOUTH
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OF THE SITE.THERE IS A RATHER LARGE, UM, GREEN AREA, UM, LANDSCAPE, UM, THIS LANDSCAPED AREA WITH GRASS.
UM, INITIALLY, STAFF TRIED TO SEE IF WE COULD KIND OF ACTIVATE THAT WITH SOME KIND OF AMENITY, LIKE A DOG PARK, BUT REALLY THIS BEING SUCH, UM, IN A SUCH COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, UH, IT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE, AND THE APPLICANT, UM, PREFERRED TO JUST STAY WITH OPEN LANDSCAPING.
SO WHAT ARE THE PROVISIONS WITHIN THE PD? UM, SO THE PARKING RATIO, UM, CURRENTLY, THEY, UH, ARE ALLOWED TO, WITH THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO UP TO, UM, 19, UH, SPACES.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO GO, UM, 43? 47.
47, UH, PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS WAY MORE THAN WHAT, UM, THE CODE ALLOWS OR THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE PROCESS ALLOWS.
SO, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A PARKING RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER 86 SQUARE FOOT.
UH, OUR CURRENT CODE RE- REQUIREMENT IS ONE SPACE PER 300 SQUARE FOOT, SO IT'S, IT'S A BIG, BIG INCREASE IN THE PARKING RATIO, BUT IT IS BECAUSE OF THIS, HOW THE SITE IS LAYOUT TODAY.
WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE MAKE THAT, UH, MAXIMUM PARKING, ONE SPACE PER, PER 86, SO THAT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EXCEED IT ANY FURTHER.
UM, THREE, UP TO THREE DRIVE-UP ATMS PERMITTED ON SITE.
UH, THE LANDSCAPE AREA, UM, THEY'RE EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM, UH, REQUIRED FROM 10%.
THEY'RE PROVIDING, UH, MORE CANOPY TREES, UH, WITHIN THE PARKING LOT.
UH, SEVEN CANOPY TREES ARE REQUIRED.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING THAT CONTINUOUS ROW OF SHRUBS, UM, TOWARD THE WEST SIDE, UM, OF THE, OF THE, OF THE SITE.
AND THEN THEY'RE PROPOSING A BICYCLE RACK WITH FOUR BICYCLES AND, UM, THE NON - ADA PARKING SPACES ALL WILL BE STAMPED OR DECORATIVE CONCRETE, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING THE FALLEN OFFICER MEMORIAL TO BE RELOCATED, UM, ALONG CENTERVILLE WITH, UM, A DECORATIVE FOUNTAIN, TWO BENCHES, AND A TRASH RECEPTACLE.
AND A LOT OF IT, IT HAS BEEN CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND - TEXT.
THE PURPOSE OF THESE CONDITIONS IS TO SOFTEN - THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROVISION SLIDE REMAINS VISIBLE ON THE SCREEN.
THE PARKING SPACES, THE, THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES THAT THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSING TO HAVE.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH ALL THESE CONDITIONS, UM, THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT, AND PLAN COMMISSION ALSO, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
UH, WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
WE'LL START WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON.
FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS SIT AT THE CURVE DESK.
FIRST, THANK YOU TO CHASE BANK FOR, UM, DOING THE FALLEN OFFICER MEMORIAL.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, CONTINUE THE SESSION.
SO WHEN I FIRST HEARD THAT THE BANK WAS GONNA GET DEMOLISHED, THAT WAS MY FIRST CONCERN WAS - THE COUNCIL MEMBER REVIEWS A DOCUMENT.
THE, THE SIGNIFICANCE THAT IT HOLDS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AND FOR OFFICER MOORE'S, UH - THE DEPUTY MAYOR LOOKS AT HER LAPTOP.
GETTING KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY AT THAT BANK.
UM, NABIL, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE MAP, PLEASE? CONCEPT PLAN SHOWS LAYOUT, BUILDING, AND PARKING.
WHY IS IT SO, UH, LARGE? UM, OUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS 24.
UH, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN, SO THIS MAY NOT BE FULLY PROPORTIONATE.
I MEAN, IT'S THE, IT'S THE SAME WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY, SO IT JUST LOOKS A LITTLE ODD.
UM, I AM ALSO NOT A FAN OF THE, THE ADDITIONAL PARKING.
UM, I, I WOULD SAY, LIKE, ONE TO 150 AT BEST.
AND THE MAIN CONCERN FOR THAT IS - COUNCIL, WATCHES THE SITE MAP.
WHAT THAT PARKING LOT TURNS INTO AT NIGHT CURRENTLY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH - CARISSA DUTTON REVIEWS DOCUMENTS.
UM, THAT DISCUSSION IS CERTAINLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OBSERVE THE PROCEEDINGS.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT RELATED TO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR WITHIN THEIR, UM, APPLICATION TONIGHT.
THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES? NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IS FINE.
IT'S THE CONVERSATION ABOUT ANY THAT MIGHT FOLLOW AFTER THAT.
IF YOU HAVE MORE PARKING SPACES, UNDESIRABLE THINGS HAPPEN.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE, SIR? OFFICIALS REVIEW PAPERS.
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LOOK TOWARD THE PODIUM.UM, I'M ALSO NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT MANY PARKING SPACES.
I, I ORIGINALLY ASSUMED THAT THAT WAS FOR - WALL SCREEN SHOWS A SITE MAP.
EXPANDED JOVI'S PARKING, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS ALL BLOCKED BY LANDSCAPING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY A SMALLER BUILDING WOULD REQUIRE MORE PARKING THAN A LARGER BUILDING CURRENTLY REQUIRES.
I THINK THEY'RE REDUCING FOUR.
ISN'T IT HOW - YES, BUT THE BUILDING'S GOING DOWN WAY MORE.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE POINT OF CONTENTION HERE.
ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE SIZE OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING, SO THEY SHOULD HAVE A QUARTER OF THE PARKING, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE RATIO IS KIND OF.
I, UM, I, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT MANY PARKING SPACES IN THIS AREA.
I MEAN, I GUESS I'LL, I'LL LET THE APPLICANTS ASK THAT.
LIKE WHAT RATIO WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE FOR CITY COUNCIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? 150, ONE TO 150? WHAT WOULD THAT LOWER THAT TO? ONE TO 300 IS WHAT'S REQUIRED.
UM, SO IF WE DO ONE TO 150 - THE PRESENT ARE GESTURES AT THE PODIUM? 27? 27 WOULD BE.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SIT AT THE DAYS.
UM, I, I GUESS IT'S, UH, I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW MAYBE - 47 IS WHAT - HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO WORK AT THIS? 12 EMPLOYEES.
SO, UM - THEIR CONCERN WAS THERE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH PARKING FOR CUSTOMERS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY...
AND THEN, UH, THEY ALSO MENTIONED, UM, THERE WOULD BE TRAININGS HAPPENING IN THAT BUILDING.
AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUST NARRATIVES FROM THE APPLICANT.
UM, SO AT THAT TIME, THERE MAY BE LARGE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES COMING IN AND THEY MAY BE NEEDING THOSE PARKING SPACES FOR THOSE.
BUT AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT TALK ABOUT THAT.
OH, ALSO, WHAT IS THE ORANGE, THE ORANGE DOTS ON THAT SITE PLAN? THAT'S WHERE THE FALLEN OFFICER MEMORIAL WOULD BE.
THESE THINGS? YEAH, THE POLKA DOTTED PATTERN AREA.
YEAH, THOSE ARE THE STAMPED, UM, CONCRETE, CONCRETE STAMPED PARKING.
COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION HERE.
UH, ON THE, REGARDING THE DECORATIVE OR STAMPED PARKING, IN THE APPLICANT'S LETTER, IT SAYS DECORATIVE STAMP PARKING.
IN OUR CONDITIONS, IT SAYS DECORATIVE OR STAMPED PARKING.
WHAT'S OUR DEFINITION OF DECORATIVE...
UH, EXCUSE ME, NOT DECORATIVE PARKING.
SO IT SAYS IN THE APPLICANT'S LETTER, DECORATIVE STAMPED PAVEMENT.
IN OUR CONDITIONS, IT SAYS DECORATIVE OR STAMPED CONCRETE, BUT IN OUR GDC, WE DON'T DEFINE DECORATIVE CONCRETE.
THAT IS SOMETHING, UH, WE HAVE RECENTLY STARTED LOOKING INTO.
SO WHEN THERE'S A LOT MORE PARKING, WE'RE TRYING TO, THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE'RE TRYING TO SEE HOW CAN WE MAKE IT LOOK LESS GRAY OR CONCRETE.
IS IT STAINED CONCRETE IN THAT CASE? IS THAT DECORATIVE OR WHAT'S OUR DEFINITION? THERE'S NO DEFINITION.
SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO LOOK INTO.
HOW CAN I, CAN WE DEFINE IT MORE? BUT IN THIS CASE, SOME KIND OF ENHANCEMENT, EITHER STAMPED OR SOME KIND OF, UM, STAINED PARKING.
WE NEED A DEFINITION IN THERE BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS.
DECONDITION? PD CONDITION.THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
WE CAN BRING ONE BACK BEFORE APPROVAL IF THIS IS APPROVED.
IN THE ORDINANCE, WE CAN PUT IT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD SET A GOOD PRECEDENT IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TOWARDS DOING THAT SORT OF THING IN THE FUTURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNSEL, ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE APPLICANT? WE HAVE CARLOS IGLESIAS AND DAVID P.
MAYOR HEDRICK GIVES A THUMBS UP GESTURE.
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, AND YOU'LL HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION.
THE MAN STANDS AT THE PODIUM AND ADJUST THE MICROPHONE OR EQUIPMENT.
I'M THE - SET THAT DOWN, THEY'LL ADJUST THE LEVELS FOR YOU.
DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE FOR JP MORGAN CHASE FOR DALLAS FORWARD.
THE SECOND MAN JOINS THE FIRST MAN OF THE PODIUM.
I'M CARLOS IGLESIAS, 2080, NOR HIGHWAY, NOR HIGHWAY 360, GRAND PRAIRIE.
I AM A CIVIL ENGINEER APPLICANT FOR THE PROJECT.
SORRY, MY ADDRESS, UH, 1414 SHETLAND DRIVE, ALLEN, TEXAS.
TWO MEN STAND AT A WOODEN PODIUM IN A TIERED LECTURE HALL WITH ROWS OF RED SEATS.
ALL RIGHT, SO - THE LAPTOP SITS ON THE PODIUM.
YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN OUR BUILDING THERE.
IT'S, UH, I THINK IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE EARLY '70S, A BIT DATED.
UM, WE WANNA BRING THAT CORNER UP TO OUR CURRENT STANDARD, WHICH WOULD BE A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH, UH, THREE DRIVE-UP ATMS TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE, THAT PART OF THE GARLAND COMMUNITY AT, UH,
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BROADMOOR AND CENTERVILLE.UM, WE, WE LOOK AT OUR BRANCHES, UH, OVER A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD.
AS THEY START TO GET OLD OR START TO LOOK OLD, WE WANNA, WE WANNA, UH, BRING IN OUR NEWEST AND LATEST PROTOTYPE.
SO, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
WE THINK IT'S REALLY GONNA ENHANCE THAT CORNER.
UM, AND JUST TO NOTE ON THE, UH, THE PARKING, UH, WE HAVE JUST SHY OF 20 EMPLOYEES THERE, SO WE LIKE - SPEAKER GESTURES, AS COLLEAGUE LISTENS.
UH, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS WE, WE ALWAYS PLAN FOR 25 TO 30 CUSTOMER PARKING SPACES.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ASKING FOR THE, UM, THAT AMOUNT OF PARKING FOR THIS SITE.
THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF TRANSACTIONS THAT HAPPEN ON THAT BRANCH SEP- SEPARATED FROM THE ATM TRANSACTIONS, WHICH DON'T REQUIRE PARKING, BUT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL TRANSACTION THAT HAPPENED IN THE BRANCH, THAT'S WHY WE ARE REQUESTING THE, THE EXTRA AMOUNT OF PARKING.
AND IN LIEU OF WHAT WE WORKED OUT WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS TO ADD THE DECORATIVE PARKING AND TO CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DECORATIVE PARKING AND IS DOING PAVERS OR STAMP CONCRETE DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF EXCESS PARKING THAT WE ARE DOING.
WE'RE GONNA GO WITH A STAMP CONCRETE IN, IN LIEU OF PAVERS DUE TO THE COST AND, UH, TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE REAL PAVERS.
AND, UH, IN LIEU OF THE INCREASED PARKING AND MEETING THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EXTRA LANDSCAPE IN ORDER TO MITIGATE FOR THE, UH, INCREASE OF, UH, PARKING.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU HERE? WE HAVE, UH...
COUNCIL MEMBER LUTT, LET'S START WITH YOU, MA'AM.
SO, UH, THE EXTRA SPACES ARE NOT SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE A NIGHT MARKET AFTER 80 PM.
UM, I WOULD ASK THAT THAT QUESTION BE WITHDRAWN, UM, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE TONIGHT.
THE GARLAND LOGO IS ON THE WALL ABOVE THE DAYS.
AS, UH, STATES ON MY LETTER, THE BRANCH OPERATING HOURS ARE FROM 8: AM IN THE MORNING, 8:30 IN THE MORNING WHEN THE BRANCH OPENS CLOSES AT 5:00.
THAT'S NOT AFTER HOURS OPERATIONS IN ANY BANK IN THE UNITED STATES.
ALSO, AS A LEGIT BANK, THE BANK IS OPEN FROM 8:30 UNTIL 5:00 PM.
THE ATMS WILL BE OPEN TWENTY FOUR SEVEN AS PEOPLE NEEDS TO, TO WITHDRAW CASH OR MAKE DEPOSITS.
APPLICANTS PRESENTED THE PODIUM TO THE COUNCIL.
WELL, I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, OBSERVE THE SITE MAP.
YOU SHOULD, SINCE I'VE BEEN GOING TO THIS BANK FOREVER.
UM, I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THIS BANK WITH A FULL PARKING LOT THERE.
SO, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DECREASING THE SIZE OF YOUR FOOTPRINT, YOUR BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND ASKING FOR MORE PARKING.
AND, UM, IN LIEU OF THE LACK OF SECURITY THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS LOCATION, I URGE YOU TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS BUILDING.
WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER? I MEAN, DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE 20 EMPLOYEES, 20 PEOPLE VISITING, 40 SOUNDS REASONABLE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION.
FROM 40 THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING, WE ARE PROPOSING 47, SO IT'S NOT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.
WELL, IT'S - IF WE WORK 60 OVER, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
SHE SAID THAT YOU HAD 12 EMPLOYEES, SO YOU'VE ALREADY JUMPED BY EIGHT.
SO, UM - WE PLAN TO GROW THE, OUR BANKERS AT THAT SITE.
I'M SORRY? WE DO PLAN TO, TO, TO GROW OUR BANKING STAFF AT THAT SITE.
I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SECURITY AT YOUR BUILDING.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, WATCH THE PODIUM.
UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT YOUR OFFICES AFTER HOURS, BUT IT'S LIVELY.
COUNCIL LISTENS TO APPLICANTS.
UM, AND QUITE DANGEROUS SOMETIMES.
MEMBERS, FOLLOW THE PROCEEDINGS.
SO, IS THERE ANY SECURITY ENHANCEMENT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AT ALL OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAYBE MITIGATE ANY OF THE THINGS THAT GO ON WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE BANKERS THERE? WELL, EVERY, EVERY CURRENT CHASE BANK THAT WE ARE BUILDING ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, THERE WILL BE SECURITY CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE LIGHT POLES THAT ARE ON SITE, FACING THE BANK AND FACING THE PARKING LOT.
SO THAT'S A SECURITY THAT CHASE HAS IN PLACE DUE TO FDIC REQUIREMENTS BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.
COUNCIL MEMBERS SIT AT THE CURVE DESK.
I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER TO SEE A MAXIMUM, A VERY MAXIMUM OF 40, INCLUDING ADA SPOTS AT THAT FACILITY.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, LOOK DOWN AT THE DESK.
THE CAMERA PANS TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, HOW, UH, WHY, WHY ARE YOU GOING TO A SMALLER BUILDING? LIKE, WHAT WHAT ARE YOU DOING AWAY WITH
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THE, FROM THE CURRENT BUILDING TO THE NEW BUILDING? SO A LOT OF THAT BUILDING IS NOT BEING USED CURRENTLY.UM, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, SHRINK THE SIZE OF OUR BUILDINGS OVER TIME.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR STANDARD, LITTLE BIT HIGH, LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN OUR STANDARD FOOTPRINT.
THEY ARE CURRENT RETAIL BRANCH IS 3,500 SQUARE FEET.
THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE EMPLOYEES HERE THAN OUR NORMAL, NORMAL SITE.
TWO APPLICANTS STAND AT THE WOODEN PODIUM.
IS, ARE YOU, IS THIS LOCATION LIKE A TRAINING LOCATION OR? IT'S NOT.
YOU, THIS ONE JUST HAS MORE EMPLOYEES JUST BECAUSE - MORE EMPLOYEES, MORE, MORE TRANSACTIONS, UH, MORE, MORE TELLER WINDOWS.
UH, WE DO HAVE A HIGH VOLUME OF TRANSACTIONS HERE THAT REQUIRES A, A LARGER THAN NORMAL STAFF.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW, UM, WHAT YOUR NUMBER IS OF, LIKE, WHEN, UM, WHAT'S IT CALLED? UH, THE DRIVE-THROUGH VERSUS PEOPLE GOING IN? THE MAP IS DISPLAYED BEHIND THE COUNCIL.
I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEAD.
'CAUSE THE, THE INTERNET TELLS ME - COUNCIL MEMBERS, SIT AT THE BASE.
UM, THAT THE AVERAGE BANK HAS HIGHER DRIVE-THROUGH TRAFFIC THAN WALK-IN TRAFFIC.
COUNCIL MEMBERS SIT AT THE DESK FACING THE SCREEN.
UM, ONE OF THE JOYS OF HAVING AUTISM IS I HAVE FALL DOWN RABBIT HOLES, UH, THAT NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO GO DOWN.
UM, WHICH - CARISSA DUTTON TAKES A NOTE.
REALLY KIND OF SOLIDIFIES THE QUESTION OF WHY DO YOU NEED SO MANY PARKING SPACES? COUNCIL MEMBERS, WATCH THE SITE PLAN ON SCREEN.
BECAUSE OF AFTER HOURS PARKING SITUATION, UM, BEING A LIVELY, EVENTFUL THING, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD MAYBE DESIGN THE PARKING LOT TO DETER - COUNCIL MEMBERS, SIT AT THE DESK.
LARGER THAN NORMAL TRUCKS PULLING IN THERE.
JUST THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX, CALM DOWN.
THE OFFICIALS SIT AT THE DESK, OBSERVING THE PRESENTATION.
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS ONE OF OUR BIG CONCERNS, RIGHT? IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK A CERTAIN - TWO FLAGS STAND AGAINST A WALL TO THE RIGHT OF THE COUNCIL.
UM, SO - COUNCIL MEMBERS REMAIN FOCUSED AT THEIR DESKS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE SEE SOME OF THOSE THINGS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS RIGHT THERE, SO.
ARE YOU SAYING THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLES COMING INTO THEM? I'M, I'M JUST SAYING IF WE, MAYBE WE COULD, THERE'S WAYS TO GET CREATIVE WITH OUR PARKING SPOTS SO THAT IT, IT LIMITS THE SIZE OF VEHICLES THAT CAN BE IN THE PARKING LOT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS.
PARKING SPACES, WE ARE MEETING THE CURRENT CITY CODE, WHICH WE ARE, IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
SO WE CANNOT MAKE ANY SMALLER THAN WHAT ALREADY IS.
WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION AFTERWARDS AND - MR. MAYOR.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST AS A REMINDER AS WE TALK THROUGH THIS ISSUE THAT WE REMEMBER THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE AND THAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO ASK AN APPLICANT TO GO OUTSIDE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OF THE SITUATION.
I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING MAYBE THERE'S A TREE IN BETWEEN EACH PARKING SPOT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, SIT AT THE CURVED DAYS.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, OBSERVE THE MEETING.
AND A LITTLE OBSTACLE COURSE, IF YOU WILL.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, REVIEW DOCUMENTS.
ED MOORE ADJUSTS THE MICROPHONE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION.
IF THERE'S - COUNCIL SITS AT THE DESK.
I'M KIND OF FEELING LIKE I'M IN THE DARK RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS WE HAVE A PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE THAT IS CAUSING, CALLING FOR A X NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
AND I FEEL LIKE THE PARKING SPACES, IS THAT REALLY THE ISSUE? AND IF IT IS, THEN I'M, I'M NOT, I'M, I GUESS I'M NOT, NOT CONNECTED.
BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING HERE THAT IS EXTENUATING THAT MAYBE WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT SUCH THINGS AS MAYBE THE SECURITY ASPECT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THINK I NEED TO UNDERSTAND MORE.
WE'RE GONNA BE ASKED TO VOTE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES AS IT RELATES TO, UH, THIS PROPOSAL.
AND I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND, I DON'T KNOW IF, BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T AT THIS POINT, WHAT THE ISSUE IS AS IT RELATES TO IT.
MAYBE I NEED TO BRING BACK STAFF.
BRING BACK STAFF, IF YOU WILL.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OBSERVE THE DISPLAY.
IT, IT SOUNDS, AND I DON'T KNOW, MR. ATTORNEY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING HAVING TO DO WITH SAFETY ISSUES HERE AS IT RELATES TO THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES
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THAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR VERSUS - COUNCIL MEMBERS, REMAIN SEATED.THE ACTUAL THING THAT SHOULD BE BEFORE US, WHICH IS WHY WE WOULD OR WOULD NOT LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
DO YOU KNOW OF ANY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO WHY I AS A COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD BE CONCERNED? THE WOMAN STANDS AT THE PODIUM WITH A LAPTOP.
I'M AWARE OF SOME ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE - THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REMAIN AT THE BASE.
OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S APPROVED AS A LAND USE CURRENTLY, AND I THINK THE CONCERN IS - SPEAKER STANDS AT THE PODIUM.
THAT VIOLATION CAN BE FACILITATED MORE WITH THE PARKING SPACES.
COUNCIL MEMBERS SEATED AT THE DAY'S REVIEW THEIR MATERIALS.
I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS IN, IN OVER THE YEARS JUST ABOUT HOW MUCH DO WE HOLD PROPERTY OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIRD PARTY ACTS, ESPECIALLY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE OCCURRING ON THE PROPERTY.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SEATED AT THE CURVED DAYS OBSERVED PROCEEDINGS.
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITE, LIKE ALL THE SITES IN THE AREA OVER THERE IN THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION IS THAT THE PARKING LOT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
IT'S A PUBLIC PARKING LOT IN THAT SENSE, ALTHOUGH IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
A SEGMENT OF THE PUBLIC, UM, UM, THAT IS NOT CONNECTED BUSINESS-WISE TO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT, UM, TENDS TO USE THIS PROPERTY AFTER THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS HOURS ARE CLOSED.
AND, UM, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY, IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO HOLD THE APPLICANT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIRD PARTY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT'S OCCURRING WHEN THERE'S NOTHING IN THE LAW THAT REQUIRES THEM TO GO OUTSIDE OF THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE FOUND IN THE GARLAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THAT'S THE PIECE THAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO.
IF IN FACT, WE, I JUST HAD THIS CASE A WEEK AGO, TWO WEEKS AGO, WHERE I HAD TO VOTE IN A DIRECTION OF SOMETHING THAT I WAS TRULY NOT WANTING TO VOTE FOR, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS A SITUATION THAT WAS NOT THE PROSPECT'S PROBLEM.
THEY DIDN'T CREATE THE PROBLEM.
THEY DON'T CREATE THE PROBLEM.
IN OTHER WORDS, HAVING THE EXTRA SPACES THERE, THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR PROPERTY, THEY'RE TRYING TO ENHANCE IT.
LOOKING AT THIS, UH, PROJECT PLAN HERE IS GREAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF IN FACT WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES ARE EXISTING, AND IS IT THEIR FAULT OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING? SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING OUT WITH THIS AT THIS POINT, AND THAT IS, UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE A SENSE OF DIRECTION IF IN FACT OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND WE CAN'T ADDRESS THAT.
SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TRULY MAY NEED TO - THE SITE MAP IS ON SCREEN.
MAYBE NOT TO EVEN VOTE ON TONIGHT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO.
CAN I HAVE A STEP BACK? AN AMERICAN FLAG STANDS BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, REMAIN FOCUSED.
SO TO FOLLOW COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN MORSE, I TRY TO REPEAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
UM, THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR 47 PARKING SPACE AND THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS IS 14.
AND, UH, WE HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS IS RECOMMEND TO APPROVE.
AND THEN THE STAFF ALSO RECOMMEND TO APPROVE WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS OF THE 13 TREE, 40% OF LANDSCAPE AND SO ON.
MOST OF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE CRAFTED TO SOFTEN THE, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WE, WE, WE CONCERN ABOUT IF YOU HAVE MORE PARKING SPACE THAT MIGHT BE, HAVE SIDE EFFECTS.
COUNCIL MEMBERS WHISPER AMONG THEMSELVES AT THE DAYS.
UM, SO IF IT'S 47 PARKING SPACE, IS THAT STILL IN THE CODE ALLOWANCE? IT'S NOT.
WE, ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE COULD GO UP TO 19 AND THIS IS WAY MORE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY 336 - COUNCIL MEMBER SPEAKS OF MICROPHONE MORE THAN...
I KNOW IT, IT SOUNDS EXTRA VACANT, BUT WHEN YOU APPLY THE PERCENTAGE TO THOSE NUMBERS, IT IS 336% OVER.
SO WE MAY ALLOW UP TO 19 PARKING SPACE.
COUNCIL CAN APPROVE, UM, ANY NUMBER.
CAN I HAVE THE APPLICANT BACK? TEXT.
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TWO.EARLIER THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REMAIN SEATED.
COUNCILWOMAN'S, UH, LUTCH MENTIONED IT'S THE 40 PARKING SPACE, BUT THE STAFF WAS MENTIONED RECOMMEND 19 PARKING SPACE.
WHAT IS THE NUMBERS? IF WE, WE GO WITH 19 OR WITH 40 PARKING SPACE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT 40, 40 PARKING SPACE? WELL, WE, WE, INTERNALLY WE'VE APPROVED THIS AT 47, BUT PROBABLY WORK WITH YOU ON THE LOWER NUMBER.
IF WE GO WITH 40 SPACE, 40 PARKING SPACE, ARE YOU OKAY? I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY WORK BETWEEN 47 AND 40.
THE APPLICANT STANDS AT THE PODIUM WITH A LAPTOP.
AGAIN - THE SCREEN HANGS ABOVE THE DASE.
THIS TYPE OF NEGOTIATION IS REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, WATCH THE WALL SCREEN.
WHEN AN APPLICANT'S UP BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND APPROVING A LAND USE LIKE THIS.
CARISSA DUTTON LOOKS DOWN AT HER PAPER.
UM, THEY'RE ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE A CERTAIN MINIMUM AMOUNT OF SPACES AND A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SPACES.
AND THE IDEA THAT IF YOU NEGOTIATE WITH US, WE'LL APPROVE THIS IS, UM, A MESSAGE THAT IS IMPLICITLY BEING LEFT OUT THERE THAT, UM, IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO.
UH, GENTLEMAN, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THE LIGHTING PLAN IS FOR THIS PROJECT? TEXT.
MAYOR PRO TEM, DISTRICT EIGHT.
TOP OF MY HEAD, I DO NOT, BUT I KNOW CH - THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW CERTAIN FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR LIGHTING, SECURITY CONCERNS BECAUSE OF BEING A FINANCIAL INS- INSTITUTION.
SO I KNOW CHASE WILL FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN AND ENGINEERING.
SO I CAN HAVE THOSE ON, YOU KNOW, SENT, SENT BACK TO YOU FOR, FOR REVIEW BOARD.
I, I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE SAFE TO ASSUME THAT LIGHTING IS GOING TO BE MODERNIZED AND IT'S GOING TO BE BRIGHTER.
IT'S GOING TO BE CLEANER - YES.
AND HAVING A BRIGHTER AND CLEANER SPOT THAT'S THERE, A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CHASE WOULD BE MOTIVATED TO MAINTAIN, UH, UH, EVEN MORE SO THAN WHAT THEY ALREADY DO AND A, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT ACTIVITIES, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE, ARE TO THE VISION OF WHAT CHASE WOULD WANT IT TO BE.
WOULD THAT BE SAFE TO ASSUME? THE TWO APPLICANTS FACE THE DAYS.
I MEAN, THE, THE, THE STANDARDS WILL IMPROVE OVER WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW.
THAT'S, IF THAT'S THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING.
WELL, I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH A, WITH A VERY LARGE BANKING INSTITUTION THAT'S COMING TO OUR CITY THAT'S IN ONE OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORRIDORS THAT IS LOOKING TO PLACE A BRAND NEW SHINY OBJECT ON A HARD CORNER OF OUR CITY.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US AND WHATEVER THE PARKING, UH, DISCUSSIONS LEAD TO, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR COMING HERE TO PRESENT THIS TO US.
AND COUNSEL, BEFORE WE GO BACK AROUND AGAIN, I WANNA JUMP IN HERE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE US DESIGNING A SITE ON THE FLY.
THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE AND OUR ENGINEERING STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET, ESPECIALLY REGARDING OUR FIRE LANE WIDTHS AND TURNING RADIUS AND SO FORTH.
SO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PREVENTING CERTAIN TYPES OF VEHICLES, THAT PREVENTS PUBLIC SAFETY FROM GETTING TO THIS BUILDING IN CASE OF AN INCIDENT.
THIS BUILDING IS PUSHED UP TOWARDS THE STREET, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE WANT IN OUR DESIGN CODE WITH THE PARKING BEHIND IT, IF YOU NOTICE THAT IN THE SITE PLAN.
RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A SEA OF PARKING IN THAT WHOLE AREA, AND THIS IS PROPOSING TO HAVE 40% OF GREEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPING AROUND THIS WHOLE BUILDING COMPARED TO WHAT IS NOW.
THEY'RE PUTTING 13 CANOPY TREES IN THERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREES THEY HAVE NOW, IT'S JUST CREPE MYRTLES THAT ARE, ARE PRETTY POOR CONDITION.
THEY'RE ADDING SIGNIFICANT TREES, AND YOU ASK ABOUT TREES IN THE PARKING LOT, WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS TO PUT THEM IN TRAFFIC ISLANDS THROUGHOUT OUR, OUR PARKING LOTS AS PART OF OUR STANDARDS.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A CONCEPT PLAN.
IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ALLOWED THE CHANGE TO SHOW CONCEPT PLANS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS TO BRING QUALITY PROJECTS LIKE THIS TO OUR CITY.
UH, I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THIS INVESTMENT IN THIS AREA IS FANTASTIC.
I LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ADDING IN SPECIALIZED CONCRETE AND PAVING IN THOSE PARKING SPACES.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU GET TYPICALLY.
I LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE INCLUDING A, A OFFICER MEMORIAL FOR OFFICER DAVID MOORE IN THE FUTURE TO MEM - TO COMMEMORATE WHAT HAPPENED THERE WITH OUR FALLEN OFFICER.
UM, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THE REINVESTMENT AND THE RIGHT SIZING OF THE BUILDING TO FIT THEIR BUSINESS NEEDS IS APPROPRIATE
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AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THEIR INVESTMENT IN THE CITY.MAYOR DYLAN HEDRICKS SITS AT THE CENTER OF THE DAYS.
COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK, YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE, MA'AM.
THE CONCEPT PLAN IS PROJECTED ON THE SCREEN.
COUNCIL SITS AT A CURVED DESK.
MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MAYOR HEDRICK GESTURES WITH A PEN.
COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK, THE SENIOR DISTRICT MA'AM.
I MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 12B WITH A MAXIMUM OF 30 PARKING SPOTS AND 50% LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK AND A SECOND.
YOU GUYS JUMP IN THAT SECOND SO QUICKLY, YOU DON'T EVEN HEAR THE, THE MOTION.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK WITH 30 PARKING SPACES AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DUTTON.
MAYOR HEDRICK GESTURES DURING THE MEETING.
IS THAT THE ONLY CONDITION? I'M SORRY, MA'AM.
30 PARKING SPACES? 50% LANDSCAPING.
IT'S 30 PARK SPACES AND 50% LANDSCAPING.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, OBSERVE THE PROCEEDINGS.
AND A SECOND BY COUN - UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUNN.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCIL MEMBERS SIT AT THE DESK.
JUMP IN THE QUEUE, SIR, IF YOU WOULD.
COULD I REQUEST, IS THAT MOTION NOT DESIGNING FROM THE BENCH THAT YOU JUST SAID WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING? THE CAMERA PULLS BACK TO SHOW THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THE DESK.
MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT THE MOTION IS A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, APPLICATION BASED ON STANDARDS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE GDC.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, LOOKED WHERE THE CENTER DAYS.
COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS MOTION.
I LIKE THE ORIGINAL, UH, ORIGINAL CONCEPT AS I STATED IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS.
AND MADAM SECRETARY, I SEE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, SO PLEASE PREPARE A VOTE.
MAY I PLEASE HAVE A SECOND IN THE SYSTEM? MAY I HAVE A SECOND? UM, SORRY.
MAYOR HEDRICK LOOKS TOWARD THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IF I GET COUNCIL MEMBER LUX AND THEN DEPUTY MAYOR PRUM, THERE WE GO.
COUNCIL MEMBERS FOCUS ON THEIR SCREENS.
THE SCREEN DISPLAYS THE FINAL VOTE COUNT WITH THREE IN FAVOR, FIVE AGAINST, AND ONE ABSTENTION.
AND THAT ITEM FAILS THREE TO FIVE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS TRAN, MOORE, THOMAS, MAYOR PRO TEM OTT, AND THE MAYOR IN OPPOSITION.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MOTION.
COUNCIL MEMBERS REVIEW THEIR MATERIALS AT THE DAYS.
COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS? UH, I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED WITH 40 PARKING SPACES.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR AS PRESENTED WITH THE- THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OBSERVE THE PROCEEDINGS FROM THEIR DESKS.
40 PARKING SPACES WITH 40 PARKING SPACES.
A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH, BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS WITH 40 SE - PARKING SPACES AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE.
COUNCIL, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? I SEE NONE.
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE.
THE SCREEN DISPLAYS THE FINAL VOTE COUNT OF EIGHT IN FAVOR, ZERO AGAINST, AND ONE ABSTENTION.
THE SPEAKER TYPES ON THE LAPTOP AT THE PODIUM.
MOVE NOW ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8C, CONSIDER REQUEST BY WATERMILL EXPRESS, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PROVISION FOR A KIOSK, CELL SERVICE, RETAIL, ICE, WATER, ET CETERA USE, AND A CONCEPT PLAN FOR KIOSK CELL SERVICE, RETAIL, ICE, WATER USE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 1130 WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD.
THE PRESENTER AT THE PODIUM ADJUST HER MICROPHONE AND CHECKS HER LAPTOP.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A CP, UH, REQUEST FOR A KIOSK, SELF-SERVICE, RETAIL, ICE, WATER, ET CETERA USE AND ASSOCIATED CONCEPT PLAN.
CURRENTLY, THERE IS AN OLDER STRUCTURE OF THE KIOSK, UH, ON SITE.
IT'S A DIFFERENT LOT, BUT WITHIN THE SAME SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH, UM, IS, UH, CURRENTLY BEING, UM, NOT DEVELOPED.
THE BUILDING'S ALREADY DEVELOPED.
UM, JOVI'S IS CURRENTLY, UH, WORKING ON GETTING IN THERE.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO RELOCATE, UH, THE STRUCTURE, UM, WITHIN THE SAME SHOPPING CENTER, BUT IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
UM, AND I CAN SHOW YOU WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY AND WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE IN A BIT.
AND THEN, UM, AS YOU HAVE SEEN THIS, THESE TYPE OF SIMILAR CASES, UH, IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, UH, THE WATERMILL, UM, COMPANY, THEY'RE UPDATING
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THEIR STRUCTURES, UH, THE OLDER VERSIONS, THE OLDER PROTOTYPES, THEY'RE REPLACING THEM WITH THE NEW ONES.UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, UH, INTENDING TO DO AS WELL.
THE CURRENT ONE, UH, IS OPERATING THERE SINCE 2007.
AT THAT TIME, IT WAS, UH, CLASSIFIED AS JUST RETAIL.
THE ONLY REASON IT'S TRIGGERING THE SUP IS BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING TO FIRST DEMOLISH THE, I MEAN, TAKE OUT THE STRUCTURE AND HAVE A NEW STRUCTURE IN THERE, AND, UM, THEY'RE RELOCATING.
AND THOSE ARE THE UPDATES THAT TRIGGERS THE SUP.
AS YOU MENTIONED, 1130 WEST CENTERVILLE ROAD, JUST, UM, AS A CLARIFICATION, UH, THAT ADDRESS IS WHERE THEY'RE WANTING TO RELOCATE.
UH, WITHIN THAT SHOPPING CENTER, THERE ARE MUL- MULTIPLE ADDRESSES, SO THAT MAY HAVE CONFUSED SOME PEOPLE.
UH, THE ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER IS, UH, AB- ABOUT EIGHT ACRES, AND IT IS ZONED, UH, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SIX, 26-16 FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL, UH, USES.
HERE YOU CAN SEE, I KNOW THE ZONING MAP SAYS PD02-48, BUT PD, UH, 26-16 IS FAIRLY RECENT, AS YOU CAN TELL BY THE NUMBER.
AND THE MAPS ARE ACTUALLY CREATED, UM, INITIAL STAGE OF THE ZONING MAP, UH, WHICH IS WHY, UH, THAT DISCREPANCY IS THERE, BUT THE BASE ZONING IS THE SAME.
UH, IT'S COMMUNITY RETAIL, UM, SURROUNDING AREAS OR COMMUNITY.
TO THE EAST SIDE, UH, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
THE COMMU - UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS THIS AREA OUT FOR, UH, COMMUNITY CENTERS.
COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE AREAS WITH COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY NON-RESIDENTIAL, SERVING A COLLECTION OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM - TEXT.
THE WA- WATER KIOSK MAY OR MAY NOT BE TOO RELEVANT FOR THIS, BUT, UM, IT IS WELL USED FROM W- WHAT WE COULD TELL, AND HAVING THAT ONSITE, IT DOES SOMEHOW, UM, SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND CAN MATCH THAT DESIGNATION.
UH, HERE YOU COULD SEE, UH, WHERE THE CURRENT STRUCTURE IS.
UM, THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY HAVE HAD IN ALL THE LOCATIONS IN GARLAND, AND THAT'S THE ONE THEY'RE TRYING TO REPLACE, UM, IN SEVERAL LOC - SEVERAL LOCATIONS.
THEY'RE, UM, PICKING UP FOUR PARKING SPACES FROM THAT JOVI'S PARKING LOT.
THEY'RE LEASING FOUR PARKING SPACES, TWO FOR THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE AND TWO FOR LANDSCAPING.
UM, BUT, UH, THE SITE ALREADY HAS A LOT MORE PARKING THAN REQUIRED, SO IT'S NOT GONNA CREATE ANY, UH, PARKING DEFICIENCY PER CODE.
SO, WHAT YOU SEE - THE CURSOR MOVES ACROSS THE SITE PLAN DIAGRAM.
ME HOW TO, UH - THE CURSOR HIGHLIGHTS A RED DOT MARKING A SPECIFIC SPOT ON THE SITE PLAN.
THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY.
THEY'RE EXISTING, AND THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, RELOCATE.
AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU COULD SEE THE KIOSK AND THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE ARE REQUIRING, UH, FOR THEM TO PUT IN.
BUILDING DRAWINGS WITH MATERIAL NOTES.
UH, THIS IS THE CONCEPT ELEVATIONS.
IT'S SIMILAR OR IT'S THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHER ONES THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD.
IT IS AN UPGRADED VERSION OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY.
THEY ARE REQUESTING AN SUP FOR 30 YEARS.
UH, BECAUSE IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION TECHNICALLY, UH, THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINE RECOMMENDS 25 TO 30.
HOWEVER, WE DO THINK, EVEN IF IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHEN WE PUT IN NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINES, WE WERE NOT NECESSARILY THINKING OF KIOSKS.
WE WERE THINKING OF ACTUAL BUILDINGS AND ACTUAL DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, SO TO ADJUST THAT, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, 15, UH, 15 YEARS.
PLAN COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND, UH, 25 YEARS, AND, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO BE PROVIDED IN THE REAR SIDE OF THE KIOSK, UH, WHICH WILL NOT REQUIRE REMOVAL OF ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.
IT WILL BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF, UH, WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE, PUTTING IN THE KIOSK.
UM, WE HAVE SENT OUT 98 LETTERS AND WE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR, UH, FROM WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND ONE THAT SAID NEITHER IN FAVOR OR AGAINST, SO TOTAL TWO.
UH, WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, DO YOU KNOW IF JOE V'S SELLS ICE? TEXT.
DO YOU THINK THAT MAYBE THIS KIOSK IS POPULAR BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO BUY ICE, LIKE, IN THAT VICINITY? I'M SURE THAT'S A COMPONENT.
SO IF JOE V'S, WHEN JOE V'S IS IN OPERATION, THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF
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AVAILABILITY FOR ICE.THERE WOULD BE FROM THE GROCERY STORE PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE KIOSK MAY SERVE NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN FOR GROCERY, BUT OTHER PEOPLE, THEY MAY JUST NEED ICE.
AND THE PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 25-YEAR SUP.
THIS CURRENT, THE CURRENT KIOSK HAS BEEN THERE FOR 19 YEARS AND HAS NEEDED A REFRESH FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
SO, SO WE'RE LOOKING, THEY WERE LOOKING AT OFFERING A, A LONGER TIME PERIOD WHEN THE KIOSK HAS ALREADY BECOME DILAPIDATED BEFORE THE END OF THE TIME, THE SUP TIME PERIOD THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
I DON'T THINK THEY, THAT CALCULATION WAS PUT IN PLAY, UH, FOR, FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME WHEN PLAN COMMISSION MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REMAIN SEATED AT THE DAYS.
HAVE, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A, AN WATERMILL EXPRESS - TEXT QUESTIONS? A, UH, RESTAURANT IN A RESTAURANT PARKING LOT THAT, LIKE A STEAKHOUSE OR, I DON'T KNOW, A PIZZA PLACE OR, UM, MAYBE EVEN A MARSHALLS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? JOE THOMAS JR.
I HAVE NOT SEEN THESE KIOSKS IN TOO MANY PLACES THAT I PERSONALLY GO TO.
UM, AND I DID WANNA MENTION THAT THIS IS ALSO IN, UH - COUNCIL MEMBERS, WATCH THE PRESENTER.
UM, SO I WANTED TO MENTION, LIKE, THESE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS DON'T NECESSARILY FURTHER THE USE ITSELF DOESN'T FURTHER WHAT WE HAVE SET OUT IN GARLAND ON THE RISE, BUT THE UPGRADE DOES MAKE THE SITE LOOK A LITTLE BETTER WITH, UH, LANDSCAPING.
SO FROM THE GARLAND ON THE RISE ANALYSIS PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE WOULD SAY THAT - PRESENTER USES GESTURES.
IT'S NEUTRAL FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
SO IF THIS, UH, RELOCATION, BASICALLY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A RELOCATION.
UM, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY - PROTOTYPE.
IF, IF THE RELOCATION ISN'T APPROVED, THEN IT WOULD STAY THERE UNTIL HEB DECIDES WHAT THEY WANNA DO WITH THAT SITE.
UM, SO I GUESS MY, MY MAJOR QUESTION IS, DOES IT MOVE - COUNCIL MEMBERS, REMAIN SEATED BEHIND THE DAIS.
FOR THE ENTIRE QUARTER, THE WEDGE, UM, TOWARD OUR TARGET FUTURE.
DOES IT RAISE THE CORRIDOR'S VALUE PER ACRE? I MEAN, THE, WE HAVE FIVE QUESTIONS IN FRONT OF US ON THE DAIS, AND, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO JUST APPLY THAT TO EACH ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE MAP, PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBERS OBSERVE FROM THE DAYS.
SO - COUNCIL MEMBERS, LOOK DOWN AT THEIR PAPERS.
I'M NOT - THIS IS WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY IS.
THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING.
SORRY? CURSOR MARKS THE SITE PLAN ON SCREEN.
WHERE YOUR RED DOT IS, WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT IS? THAT IS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING IT TO BE RELOCATED.
COUNCIL MEMBERS SIT AT THE CURVE DESK.
WHERE IS - THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY.
SO THIS WOULD MOVE IT FROM THIS LITTLE DEAD ISLAND.
THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING THERE EXCEPT FOR PARKING SPACES THAT NO ONE USES BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO RIGHT THERE OVER PAST THE DRIVE CLOSER TO THE MCDONALD'S.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THE SCREEN IS VISIBLE IN THE BACKGROUND.
UM, AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT OF WANTING TO ENHANCE THE CORRIDORS, DENYING THIS SUP ISN'T GOING TO DO ANY GOOD BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE STUCK WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVEN IF THEY WERE TO PUT THE NEW, THE NEW BUILDING AT THE EXISTING LOCATION, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO AN SUP FOR THAT, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO WE JUST GOT, UM, AN UPDATED WATER MILL AT SHILOH AND WALNUT.
UM, AND - THE DAYS REMAINS OCCUPIED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, THE LIGHTING IS MUCH BETTER.
UM, THEY DID ADD TREES INTO THE PARKING LOT.
UM, I WON'T TELL YOU HOW I WAS TOO BUSY STARING AT THE TREES I RAN OVER ONE OF THOSE
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PARKING THINGS, BUT WHATEVER.UM, BUT IT, IT IS A VAST DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT WAS THERE.
UM, DO WE HAPPEN TO KNOW WHY THEY'RE MAKING THE RELOCATION? SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, UM, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO IT MORE, BUT, UM, BASED ON WHAT'S BEEN CONVEYED TO STAFF IS THAT, UH, JOVI'S MAY, UM, PURSUE A PET SITE, UH, WHERE IT'S, IT CURRENTLY IS.
SO TO CLEAR THAT UP, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING, THEY'RE WORKING WITH WATERMILL TO RELOCATE IT, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, TO FACILITATE THAT PET SITE.
SO JOVI'S OWNS WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY AT, AND THEY OWN THE SAME SPOT WHERE THEY'RE MOVING, THEY'RE RELOCATING TO, CORRECT? THEY OWN BOTH.
EXCEPT FOR NOW YOU'RE INCREASING YOUR DENSITY CLOSER TO THE MCDONALD'S VERSUS THIS ONE SPOT THAT THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW WHERE THERE'S LITERALLY POTHOLES IN PARKING SPOTS WITH NOWHERE TO ACTUALLY EVEN GO.
SO THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE.
I ACTUALLY TRIED TO LOOK AT THE WATER MILL ON GOOGLE MAPS, BUT THERE'S A STREET VENDOR PARKED IN FRONT OF IT, SO YOU CAN'T SEE IT.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE PAYING ATTENTION, CENTERVILLE.
UM, I, I, BECAUSE WE JUST GOT THE ONE, UM, REDONE ON SHILOH AND WALNUT, I CA - I CAN, I CAN BE IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE IT IS A VAST DIFFERENCE.
UM, AND JOVI'S, THEY MIGHT SELL ICE.
I DON'T WANNA GO INTO A, A GROCERY STORE TO BUY A BAG OF ICE.
UM, SOMETIMES I DON'T WANT PEOPLE, BUT ALSO SOMETIMES YOU NEED BULK ICE.
AND SO YOU CAN, THAT'S WHAT THESE, THESE KIOSKS ARE REALLY GOOD FOR NEEDING BULK ICE.
UM, BACK IN THE DAY BEFORE THEY DID BULK, BULK ICE, YOU BOUGHT BAGS AND BAGS AND BAGS AND THEN THERE WAS TRASH EVERYWHERE.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE THE, THE VALUE IN THE KIOSKS BESIDES THE FACT THAT I FREQUENT OUR KIOSKS.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M FINE WITH IT.
UM, I LIKE IT BETTER OVER BY THE MCDONALD'S SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE DENSE OVER THERE ANYWAY, SO.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S RIGHT THERE.
UM, JUST, UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, HOW MANY YEARS DO THEY HAVE LEFT ON THEIR EXISTING SUP? THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE AN SUP.
THEY, THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO GET ONE WHEN THEY WERE LOCATED.
THE WOMAN STANDS AT A WOODEN PODIUM WITH EMPTY AUDITORIUM SEATS VISIBLE BEHIND HER.
THEY'RE BASICALLY GRANDFATHERED IN WHERE THEY'RE, UH, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
BUT IF THEY LOSE THAT SITE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE - THE SITE AND THAT STRUCTURE.
SO FOR THEM TO REPLACE THAT STRUCTURE AND TO RELOCATE BOTH TRIGGERS THE SUP.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO, UM, MENTION THAT THE UPDATE THAT THEY DID AT SHILOH AND WALNUT WAS SIGNIFICANT.
IT REALLY DRESSED IT UP NICELY AND THAT HAPPENED - COUNCIL MEMBERS, LOOK AT THEIR NOTES.
YEAH, THAT'S IN OUR MEDICAL DISTRICT.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH - COUNCIL MEMBERS LEAN FORWARD AT THE DAYS.
UH, I WILL LISTEN TO THE APPLICANT.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.
AND, UH, SO WE'LL SAVE THE REST FOR THEM.
COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK, QUESTION FOR STAFF.
MAYOR HEDRICK LOOKS DOWN AT HIS DESK.
SO ARE, ARE THERE ANY NEARBY ICE DISPENSERS? COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GATHERED AT THE DAYS.
DISPENSERS - I DID NOT LOOK INTO THAT.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS LOOKED TOWARD THE PODIUM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO CALL IT.
I DID NOT LOOK INTO THAT, SO I'M SORRY.
I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MAYOR HEDRICK LOOKS TOWARD THE PODIUM.
SO JUST SUMMARIZE THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND FOR 25 YEARS AND, UH, STAFF RECOMMEND 15 YEARS.
UH, WHAT IS THE REDEVELOPMENT GOAL FOR THAT AREA? BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT 15 YEARS.
WHY IS, WHY WE PICKED 15 YEARS? WHY WE PICKED 15 YEARS? WE TRY TO STAY AS CLOSE TO THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINE AS POSSIBLE.
SO TECHNICALLY, SUP TIME PERIOD...
I MEAN, ANY POLICY DOCUMENT OR ANY CODE CAN NEVER ADDRESS ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WILL COME BEFORE US.
SO WHEN WE SAID NEW CONSTRUCTION 20, 25 TO 30 YEARS, WE WERE ENVISIONING 25 TO 30 YEARS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT.
EMPTY AUDITORIUM SEATS BEHIND HER.
YES, IT'S A NEW STRUCTURES, BUT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE TRY TO KIND OF STAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT SPECTRUM, WHICH IS 15.
AND YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THIS, THIS IS THE, BASED ON OUR GARLAND ON THE RICE,
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THIS IS KIND OF NEUTRAL TO US.JUST FROM THE GARLAND ON THE RICE PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T...
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT ADVANCES THE CORRIDOR, UH, THE WAY GARLAND ON THE RICE, UH, WOULD WANT TO.
UH, BUT BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW, UM, CURRENTLY, JOBY'S IS COMING IN THERE, PLUS IT'S AN UPGRADE AND SOME LANDSCAPING IN THAT PARKING LOT, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE ANY LANDSCAPING ON IT.
UM, IT DOES MAKE THE SITE LOOK JUST A TAD BIT BETTER.
SO JUST BALANCING THOSE TWO, WE WOULD SAY IT, OUR ANALYSIS WOULD BE NEUTRAL JUST FROM THE GARLAND ON THE RICE SIDE.
OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CASE IS APPROVAL WITH 15 YEARS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? TEXT.
MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE APPLICANT OUT? RICK KELLY.
YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION.
UH, MY NAME IS RICK KELLY, UH.
UM, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.
BUT JUST, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE SITE AND WHAT'S KIND OF GOING ON.
THIS IS AN OLD UNIT FOR US, ONE THAT WE, WE WANTED TO REPLACE FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, IT IS UNIQUE IN THAT WHEN WE DID THIS ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS AT A CORRIDOR, A SPECIAL CORRIDOR GOING INTO GARLAND.
THERE WAS A MASONRY REQUIREMENT, SO WE HAD TO BRICK THE UNIT.
WE DON'T LIKE, UM, REPOROUS MASONRY BECAUSE IT MAKES IT HARDER TO KEEP IT CLEAN.
UH, THE SURFACE WE USE NOW LOOKS LIKE STUCCO, BUT IT'S A VERY, VERY HARD, UH, VERY EASY TO CLEAN, LONG WEARING SURFACE ON OUR NEWER FACILITIES.
UH, BUT THAT'S HOW, HOW WE ENDED IT THERE.
WE DON'T CONTROL THE PARKING LOT AROUND US IN TERMS OF UPKEEP.
THAT'S ON OUR LANDLORD, UNFORTUNATELY NOT, NOT US.
WOMAN IN BLUE LOOKS AT A LAPTOP.
IN THIS CASE, WE, WE WENT TO OUR LANDLORD, UH, IN TERMS OF UP- UPGRADING, UPDATING OUR UNIT TO OUR NEW FACILITY.
PRESENTER STANDS BY EMPTY CHAIRS.
DURING THAT PROCESS, THEY ASKED US TO RELOCATE TO THE OTHER PART OF THE PROPERTY, SO THEY FELT THAT THERE WAS A HIGHER AND BETTER USE THAN WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE.
UM, SO WE AGREED TO THAT, UH, WITH THEIR SUPPORT.
THIS HEB, AND, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.
IN, IN GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH STAFF, WE'VE AGREED TO LANDSCAPE AROUND OUR UNIT.
UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO A, UH, BENCH THAT THEY REQUESTED, UH, TO JUST TRY TO BEAUTIFY THE WHOLE PROPERTY.
PLUS I KNOW THAT HEB IS DOING A LOT OF LANDSCAPING AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS TO IMPROVE THINGS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCILMEMBER LUCK.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO BROWBEAT YOU IN ANY WAY.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS AREA IS TARGETED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO THIS AREA IS - THE COUNCIL MEMBERS LOOK DOWN.
TOP TIER AND - COUNCIL MEMBERS, LISTEN TO THE REMARKS.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT A, A, A KIOSK OF ANY KIND, NOT JUST ICE, UM - COUNCIL EXAMINES DOCUMENTS.
OF ANY KIND REALLY ELEVATES THE, THE QUALITY OF, OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
SO IT, IT REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING PERSONAL, AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE REVITALIZATION THAT YOU'VE DONE IN OTHER AREAS OF GARLAND.
I WISH THAT YOU HAD DONE THAT AT THIS LOCATION, YOU KNOW, BEFORE 19 YEARS.
THAT GIVES ME PAUSE THAT REVITALIZATION OF YOUR FACILITIES IN, YOU KNOW - MAP DISPLAYED BEHIND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, SO- SO - THE TEXAS FLAG STANDS IN THE CORNER OF THE ROOM.
I'M REALLY, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IN OTHER AREAS.
MY, MY HOPE FOR THIS AREA IS TO REALLY ELEVATE THE, THE OFFERINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA.
SO - HAVE YOU SEEN OUR FACILITY? I, I HAVE.
AND SO THERE, AND THERE'S MORE TO THIS.
WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF CUSTOMERS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
IT'S NOT JUST A ICE UNIT, THAT'S ACTUALLY SECONDARY.
OUR PRIMARY CUSTOMER'S A WATER CUSTOMER.
UM, THEY COME TO US BECAUSE WE'RE A VERY, A VERY HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT, UH, BUT PROBABLY THE MOST AFFORDABLE PRICE THAT YOU'LL FIND.
A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS ALSO, THEY WANT TO RECYCLE OR THEY, THEY DON'T WANNA HAVE TO RECYCLE PLASTIC BOTTLES, SO THEY BRING THEIR OWN BOTTLE TO FILL THIS UP, UM, RATHER THAN BUY PET, WHICH IS A LITTLE PLASTIC BOTTLES OR
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SOME OTHER, OTHER THING THAT GETS USUALLY JUST SEWN IN THE TRASH AND NOT RECYCLED.SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT USE US FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, UH, BUT A LOT OF IT IS, IS WATER, NOT JUST ICE.
AND AS, UH, COUNCILPERSON DUTTON SAID, A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS TOO ARE BULK CUSTOMERS.
SO THEY, RATHER THAN GETTING EIGHT BAGS OF ICE, THEY'LL COME TO US WHERE THEY CAN LITERALLY JUST FILL UP LIKE A MARINE COOLER, UH, WITH BULK ICE.
AND, AND I'VE SEEN PEOPLE GET ICE AND, UM, THROW THEIR BAGS ON THE GROUND AND, UM, WATER EVERYWHERE.
AND I MEAN, I, THERE'S A, THERE'S A KIOSK AT, UH, KINGSLEY AND, NO, I'M SORRY, MILLER AND FIRST THAT IS, UH - THE COUNCIL BASE IS SET IN THE CHAMBER.
YOU KNOW, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU NEVER WANNA BE AS A, AN ICE KIOSK.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE, THE IMAGES THAT I GET WHEN I THINK ABOUT, UM, ICE AND WATER KIOSK.
BOYUM STANDS IN THE AUDITORIUM.
I, I WOULD SAY WE'RE 1300 UNITS NATIONWIDE.
WE'RE, ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS ARE COMPANY OWNED AND OPERATED.
UM, I KINDA SHARE YOUR DISTASTE FOR SOME OF OUR CUST - OUR COMPETITORS.
UM, OF COURSE, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THEM.
UH, THING THAT I, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE DO IS WE CLEAR THOSE GUYS OUT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COMPETE WITH US BECAUSE ALL OF OUR UNITS ARE SERVICED, SANITIZED, MAINTAINED DAILY BY OUR, BY COMPANY TECHNICIANS.
THE SPEAKER STANDS AT THE PODIUM WITH HANDS CLASPED.
MAYOR DYLAN HEDRICK SITS AT THE DESK.
UH, I KNOW I'VE TOLD YOU THAT BEFORE, BUT, UM, AS SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T DRINK, I DON'T EVEN DRINK WATER, HONESTLY, BUT I WILL DRINK THE WATER.
UM, SO I'M VERY EXCITED FOR OUR ICE MACHINE TO OPEN UP.
THE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, SIT AT THE DAYS.
DO YOU GUYS USE, LIKE, A SPECIAL FILTRATION FOR YOUR WATER? LIKE, IT'S NOT JUST REGULAR, LIKE - SO IT'S, IT'S ALL BASED AROUND RO, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A, A WATER PURIFICATION PLANT.
SO REVERSE OSMOSIS IS THE, IS THE PRIMARY FILTRATION WHICH TAKES OUT.
THE PRESENTER STANDS AT THE PODIUM.
PHARMACEUTICALS, FOREVER CHEMICALS, ALL THESE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE, ARE INCREASINGLY CONCERNED ABOUT.
UH, BUT THERE'S OZONATION, CARBON FILTRATION, ONE, UH, FIVE AND 10 MICRON FILTERS, UH, ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT THAT HITS IT BEFORE IT'S VENDED, UH, IN CASE THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF BACTERIA.
UH, IT'S, IT'S A VERY, VERY ROBUST PURIFICATION SYSTEM.
AND WE MAKE OUR ICE WITH THAT PURIFIED WATER.
UM, I, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I THINK, LIKE, WE, WE ONLY KNOW WHAT WE KNOW, RIGHT? SO JUST, I LOOK AT A WATERMILL AND I'M LIKE, "OH, WELL, THEY JUST TAPPED INTO THE MAIN WATERLINE, WHAT AM I GETTING?" UM, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS BETTER QUALITY.
UM, I ALSO CAN GUARANTEE THAT THE WATERMILL EXPRESS WILL WORK 9.8% OF THE TIME.
UM - AND IF IT DOESN'T, THERE'S A NUMBER, A 1-800 NUMBER TO CALL.
I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS FIXED THE NEXT DAY, BUT I'VE GONE TO KROGER TO REFILL MY JUGS, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS VERY LATE AT NIGHT AND I DIDN'T WANNA STAND BY THE KIOSK.
UM, AND KROGER'S MACHINE DIDN'T WORK.
AND IT DIDN'T WORK THE NEXT DAY OR THE NE - I MEAN, FOR, LIKE, THREE WEEKS IT DIDN'T WORK.
SO I'VE GONE ONE TIME TO WATERMILL AND IT DIDN'T WORK AND IT WAS FIXED THE NEXT DAY.
SO, UM, WHICH I, I THINK IS, SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF YOUR BUSINESS AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE IS TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS CLEAN OUT THERE.
NOW JUST, IF Y'ALL COULD JUST OPEN SHILOH AND MALNET, I'D BE VERY HAPPY.
COUNCIL MMBER HENRICK SPEAKS FROM THE DAYS.
JIMMY TRAN, DISTRICT ONE, JUSTIN CARRAWAY.
LET ME SAY THAT - COUNCIL MEMBERS, WATCH THE PROCEEDINGS.
I THINK THAT WHAT WE ALL MAY BE EXPERIENCING TONIGHT IS THAT - COUNCILMEMBER MOORE ADDRESSES THE COUNCIL.
LIVING INTO THE NEWNESS OF OUR CBZ STUDY AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING AND OUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING WITH OUR CORRIDORS AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE.
AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING.
IT'S A GOOD THING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WE'RE ALL...
UH, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT IS THAT REALLY GOING TO ENTAIL? WHAT I'M GETTING TONIGHT IS YOU ARE AN EXISTING BUSINESS, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT WITH ALL THIS GETTING READY TO TAKE PLACE THERE, ANY BUSINESS IN THAT CORRIDOR IS GONNA BE DOING ONE OF TWO THINGS, EITHER SPRUCING IT UP, MAKING IT BETTER, OR GETTING READY TO GET OUT.
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SIMPLE.AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE READY TO SPRUCE THINGS UP.
YOU'RE READY TO MAKE YOUR BUSINESS BETTER AND TO, UH, MAKE IT MORE AVAILABLE AND TO UPGRADE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I WAS NOT HERE TO HEAR ALL THE CONVERSATION A FEW MOMENTS AGO, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU AND YOUR LANDLORD HAD A DISCUSSION AND THAT DISCUSSION, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BE MOVING TO A NEW LOCATION AS A RESULT OF THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, IT'S, IT'S ALL HONESTLY CONTINGENT ON THIS.
UH, SO WE HAVE A LONG-TERM LEASE CURRENTLY.
UM, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE WANTED TO UPGRADE THE OLD FACILITY, AND SO WHEN WE WENT TO THEM, THEY SAID, "WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, EXCEPT WE REALLY WOULD RATHER YOU RELOCATE OVER HERE TO DO THAT." AND THEY HAVE RELOCATION RIGHTS IN THE LEASE, BUT AGAIN, ALL THAT'S CONTINGENT ON, ON THE SUP.
UM - AND IS, IS ALSO SOUNDING LIKE, UH, AT THIS POINT, I, I BELIEVE THAT JOE V'S WILL PROBABLY SELL ICE, BUT EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS ICE IS NOT GONNA WANNA GO TO JOE V'S.
SO, UH, IT'S A SITUATION OF WHERE WHEN I, SATURDAY, WHEN I GET READY TO BARBECUE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, I COME TO THE ICE HOUSE BECAUSE YOU GIVE ME THE MOST ICE FOR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY.
I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING IN LINE AT JOE V'S OR ANY OF THE THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I GUESS NOW MY QUESTIONS BECOME, UH, AGAIN TO STAFF.
CHRISTINA SEGOVIANO, DISTRICT FOUR.
TEXT, MICHAEL J, CITY MANAGER.
IS THIS BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF ANY OF THE GUIDELINES THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED AS IT RELATES TO - THE SCREEN BEHIND THE COUNCIL DISPLAYS A MAP.
THE REQUEST THAT THEY'RE MAKING TONIGHT.
GUIDELINES? IN THE WAY OF ZONING, IN THE WAY OF THE SUP.
I KNOW THE SUP THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS, UH, BUT IF WE, EVEN IF WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE SUP, WOULD THEY HAVE TO MOVE FROM THE LOCATION THEY'RE IN PRESENTLY? NO, SIR.
WE'D BE ABLE TO REMAIN IN THERE.
BROS OF EMPTY RED SEATS ARE VISIBLE IN THE BACKGROUND.
UH, ARE THEY DOING ANYTHING THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR GUIDELINES AS IT RELATES TO ZONING? I'M NOT AWARE.
UM, THEM COMING HERE TONIGHT FOR THE SUP IS WITHIN OUR PROC- PROCEDURES.
THE PRESENTER GESTURES WHILE STANDING AT THE PODIUM FACING THE COUNCIL BASE.
WITH ALL THAT I'M HEARING, I JUST DON'T, AND DON'T GET ME WRONG EITHER, I'M GONNA HAVE A SITUATION THE VERY SAME AS WHAT THIS COUNCIL, THIS, THESE OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE HAVING.
AND THAT IS, WHAT AM I GOING TO ALLOW? WHAT IS IT THAT I WANNA SEE IN THOSE CORRIDORS? WHEN I SEE AN EXISTING BUSINESS THERE ATTEMPTING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, ATTEMPTING TO ENHANCE AND DO UPGRADE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, I CAN'T SEE THROWING THAT BUSINESS OUT.
AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, I WILL PROBABLY BE SUPPORTING THIS SUP.
NOW, FOR THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE HAVE, IS HE WITHIN THE STIPULATIONS OF WHAT YOU AND THE COMMISSION HAVE ASKED FOR OR REQUESTED? THE WALL MONITOR SHOWS A MAP.
SO, SO THE APPLICANT REQUESTED 30 YEARS.
PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 25.
THE PRESIDENT STANDS AT THE PODIUM.
I THINK I WOULD GO WITH THIS ON A 15 YEAR BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR.
SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO THE CATEGORY THAT WE TRIED TO FIT THEM FROM WITHIN THE SUP TIME PERIOD GUIDELINE IS EIGHT TO 15.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I ALSO WANTED TO, UH, MENTION TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND FOR, UM - PRESENT YOUR GESTURES TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, THERE IS ANOTHER, UM, KIOSK, UM, WITHIN 2500 FEET OF THIS LOCATION.
UM, I WANTED TO VERIFY WITH YOU, UM, FERGUSON ICE VENDING MACHINE IS LESS THAN HALF A MILE AWAY.
ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS 0.9 MILES AWAY.
ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS 1.7 MILES AWAY.
ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS TWO TO 2.5 MILES AWAY.
ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS 2.7 MILES AWAY.
AND ANOTHER WATERMILL EXPRESS IS WITHIN THREE MILES.
SO THERE ARE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR WATERMILL EXPRESSES WITHIN THREE MILES IN, OF, OF THIS LOCATION.
MARGARET LUTT, DISTRICT EIGHT.
UM, NABILA, ON YOUR 15-YEAR, UM, RECOMMENDATION, UH, WOULD IT BE SAFE TO ASSUME THAT PART OF THAT, UH, THOUGHT WAS THAT WE, IT WOULD ENSURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE LATEST MODEL OF WATERMILL EXPRESS IN THE FUTURE? HONESTLY, UM, NO.
WE WERE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE LATEST MODEL,
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UH, AT THAT TIME.UM, FOR THE TIME PERIOD, WE TRY TO JUST STAY CLOSE TO THE, THE CHART.
UM, SO, AND FOR THESE KIND OF STRUCTURES, BECAUSE JOVI'S IS COMING IN, IT'S NEW, IT'S GONNA BE NEW, AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH JOVI'S.
WE JUST THOUGH 15 YEARS BETWEEN, FROM EIGHT TO 15, 15 WOULD BE PRACTICAL, BUT OBVIOUSLY EIGHT WOULD ALSO BE WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED TIMELINE.
MARGARET LUTT, DISTRICT THREE.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A LONG-STANDING BUSINESS THAT IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, THEY CAN REMAIN, CORRECT? IF JOVI'S ALLOWS THEM TO.
THAT'S WHERE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL IS BASED UPON, THAT WE WILL BE GETTING AN IMPROVEMENT WITH THIS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR, WE DO NOT.
THE MAYOR TURNS HIS HEAD TO LOOK AT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
COUNCILMEMBER LUCK, THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT, MA'AM.
UM, SO JUST WANNA POINT OUT, UM, AM I JUDGING AGAINST THE PLAN'S FUTURE OR JUST DEFENDING WHAT IS THERE NOW? SO, SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU, AS YOU VOTE.
UM, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IF THIS WASN'T APPROVED, THAT JOVI'S WOULD TERMINATE THE LEASE AND PUT THE PAD SITE THERE THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO PUT THERE.
HOWEVER, I AM, I AM OKAY WITH, UH, I THINK THAT THERE'S A COMPROMISE WITH AN EIGHT-YEAR SUP.
SO I MOTION TO APPROVE THIS PLAN AS PRESENTED WITH AN EIGHT-YEAR SUP.
COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE REVIEWING MATERIALS OF THE DAYS.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LUCK WITH AN EIGHT-YEAR SUP AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARAWAY.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, MAYOR PRO TIM OTT.
UM, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH LIMITING THE SUP, BUT EIGHT YEARS SEEMS PRETTY, PRETTY SHORT BECAUSE IT, IT IS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
I WOULD ASK THAT WE, THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE A 15-YEAR SUP.
THE MAYOR LOOKS ACROSS THE ROOM.
ARE YOU MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO - I AM MAKING AN AMENDMENT.
MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? DOES THE MOTION - COUNCIL MEMBERS OCCUPY THE DAYS.
MAKE OR CONCUR? I WOULD CONCUR WITH 10.
MAYOR HEDRICK REST HIS HAND ON HIS FACE.
WIDE SHOT OF THE COUNCIL ASSEMBLY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THE MAYOR SHIFT HIS GAZE TO THE RIGHT.
COUNCIL - MAYOR HEDRICK SITS UP STRAIGHT.
I'VE HEARD ALL THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, AND IT'S, I MEAN - COUNCIL MEMBERS LOOK DOWN AT THEIR DESKS.
WE'RE LOSING THE FOREST FOR THE TREE HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE INCREMENTAL CHANGES TO OUR CORRIDORS.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN UPGRADE, OBVIOUSLY.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT STEPH SAID SHE DOESN'T THINK THIS ADVANCES THE CORRIDOR, BUT THEN IN THE NE - VERY NEXT SENTENCE SAYS, "THIS DOES MAKE THE SITE LOOK BETTER." WE'RE GETTING MIXED MESSAGES FROM OUR OWN STAFF ON THIS ITEM.
WHEN THIS IS UNQUESTIONABLY A UPGRADE, IT'S A NEW, BRAND NEW UNIT.
IT'S MOVING FROM ONE SITE OVER TO ANOTHER TO ALLOW NEW DEVELOPMENT IN A PAD SITE RIGHT NEXT DOOR THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, THAT JOE V'S, H-E-B, WANTS TO PUT A NEW PAD SITE.
IF THIS IS NOT NEW GROWTH OR NEW DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE THERE LEGALLY RIGHT NOW.
THEY CAN OPERATE FOREVER IF THEY WANTED TO RIGHT NOW.
MAYOR HEDRICK GESTURES WITH BOTH HANDS.
IF JOE V'S, IF H-E-B DIDN'T WANT THIS USE THERE, THEY SELL WATER ALL THE TIME.
THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM, AND WELL, THEY CAN'T CANCEL LEASE EITHER.
WE HEARD THAT, THAT THEY CAN'T.
SO THEY CAN BE THERE FOR AS LONG AS YOU WANT.
IF WE WANT TO UPGRADE OUR CORRIDORS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD APPROVE.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD APPROVE FOR A LONG TIME.
I THINK THE, THE ORIGINAL INTENT, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST PROPOSED THE TIMELINE GUIDELINE FOR THE, ALL THE SUPS, IT WAS BASED UPON HISTORICAL STANDARDS ABOUT, AND EVEN STAFF SAID THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION, 30 YEARS.
AND I REALLY DIDN'T HEAR A GREAT ANSWER TO WHY WE SHOULD REDUCE IT DOWN TO 15, EVEN WHEN THE CA - PLAN COMMISSION SAID 25.
I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR MORE YEARS ON THAT END.
IF THAT MEANS VOTING AGAINST THIS NECESSARILY TO HAVE MORE YEARS.
I'M INCLINED TO VOTE AGAINST IT, AND THEN WE'LL BE STUCK WITH LESS DEVELOPMENT IN THAT CORRIDOR IF IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED WITH THAT BEING THERE WITH, WITH NO PAD SITE.
SO - HE RAISES HIS HANDS WITH PALMS FACING INWARD.
I THINK THE THING IS TO, TO GIVE THEM A LONGER
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REWARDING INVESTMENT, MUCH LIKE THE CASE WE JUST HAD, REWARDING GOOD INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY ALONG THESE FOCUS AREAS.AND WITH THAT, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR TENURE SUP.
HE LEANS SLIGHTLY TOWARD THE DESK.
AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? HE LOOKS TOWARD HIS LEFT.
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE.
A TABLE SHOWS THE MOTION IS BY MARGARET LUCHT, SECONDED BY JUSTIN CARAWAY WITH INDIVIDUAL VOTES AND TOTALS.
ITEM PASSES SIX TO TWO WITH THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS IN OPPOSITION.
MOVE ON NOW TO CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS AT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT BY COUNCIL MEMBER LUCK.
MA'AM? NAMEPLATES ON THE DESK IDENTIFY MARGARET LUCT, CARISSA DUTTON, JOE THOMAS JR.
YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO - YES, SIR.
BABETTA HEMPHILL TO THE COMMUNITY MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION.
I HAVE A NOMINATION TO THE COMMUNITY MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION AND A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON.
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE.
MAY I PLEASE HAVE A SECOND IN THIS QUEUE? THANK YOU.
THE SCREEN DISPLAYS THE CITY OF GARLAND LOGO.
CARISSA DUTTON, SECONDED BY JUSTIN CARRAWAY, PASSES EIGHT TO ZERO WITH ONE ABSTENTION.
AND THAT ITEM IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS, YOU HAVE A NOMINATION, SIR.
I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MEGAN GONZALEZ TO THE ALL ABILITIES COMMITTEE.
I HAVE A NOMINATION BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMAS AND A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM DUTTON.
PLEASE PREPARE THE VOTE ON THIS NOMINATION.
CONGRATULATIONS TO THOSE TWO NEW MEMBERS OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS ISSUES NOT ON THE MEETING AGENDA MAY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
HOWEVER, ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, COUNCIL IS PROHIBITED FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEM NOT ON THE POSTED AGENDA.
MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS TONIGHT? YES, SIR, WE DO.
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER? YES.
MAYOR HEDRICK REVIEWS MEETING DOCUMENTS AT THE DAYS.
DID I SAY IT WRONG? IS IT DIVERS? YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GARLAND POLICE ASSOCIATION, AND I'M ALSO A POLICE OFFICER ASSIGNED TO THE PATROL DIVISION HERE IN GARLAND.
I WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT PROPOSITION A MEANS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BOTH AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS ON THE STREETS OF GARLAND AND SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTS THE MEN AND WOMEN SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, UH, GARLAND HAS CONTINUED TO GROW.
WE'RE NOW ROUGHLY A CITY, A CITY ROUGHLY ABOUT 250,000 PEOPLE.
AS THE CITY HAS GROWN, SO HAS THE DEMANDS ON OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
RIGHT NOW, GARLAND HAS ABOUT ONE SWORN POLICE OFFICER FOR EVERY 700 RESIDENTS.
THINK ABOUT THAT FOR ONE SECOND, THAT'S ONE OFFICER OR 700 PEOPLE.
OF COURSE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S ONE OFFICER SITTING AVAILABLE FOR EVERY 700 RESIDENTS.
OFFICERS ARE ANSWERING CALLS, INVESTIGATING CRIMES, MAKING ARRESTS, WORKING TRAFFIC CA - UH, CRASHES, RESPONDING TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISES, UH, HANDLING SPECIALIZED ASSIGNMENTS AND TAKING CARE OF MANY OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO WHEN AN OFFICER IS TIED UP ON A MAJOR CALL, THAT OFFICER ISN'T AVAILABLE FOR THE NEXT GARLAND RESIDENT WHO NEEDS HELP.
THAT'S WHY STAFFING MATTERS TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY.
THOSE BUDGET WOULD ADD 10 OFFICERS AND EIGHT EMERGENCY DISPATCHERS.
THOSE AREN'T JUST NUMBERS ON A SPREADSHEET.
THEY'RE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE THE ABIL - AVAILABILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC, AND MORE OFFICERS WOULD GIVE US MORE CAPACITY TO ANSWER CALLS, PATROL NEIGHBORHOODS, ASSIST OTHER OFFICERS, HANDLE EMERGENCIES, AND DO PROACTIVE WORK.
AND THE DISPATCHERS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT.
WHEN YOU CALL 911, THE DISPATCHER'S THE FIRST PERSON YOU TALK TO.
THEY GATHER THE INFORMATION, PRIORITIZE THE CALL, AND GET THE RIGHT SE - UH, RESOURCES MOVING.
SO ULTIMATELY, THIS COMES DOWN TO A PRETTY SIMPLE QUESTION.
AS GARLAND'S GROWN, HAVE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES KEPT UP WITH THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY? CRIME AND THE DEMANDS OF OUR OFFICERS, UH, HAVE CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, BUT THE NUMBERS OF OFFICERS AVAILABLE TO HANDLE THOSE DEMANDS HASN'T INCREASED AT THE SAME PACE.
I'M NOT HERE TO TELL ANYONE HOW TO VOTE.
I'M HERE AS A GARLAND POLICE OFFICER AND AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GARLAND POLICE ASSOCIATION TO EXPLAIN WHAT I SEE EVERY DAY.
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NEEDS A POLICE OFFICER, STAFF ISN'T, STAFFING ISN'T JUST AN ABSTRACT BUDGET ISSUE.IT DETERMINES WHETHER SOMEONE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR CALL.
IT DETERMINES WHETHER AN OFFICER CAN GET TO YOU WHEN YOU NEED HELP.
IT DETERMINES WHETHER WE HAVE ENOUGH PO - PEOPLE TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, INVESTIGATE CRIMES, BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF SIMPLY MOVING FROM ONE CALL TO THE NEXT.
OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS, UH, HAVE GROWN AS WELL.
PROPOSITION A GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD PERSONNEL WE NEED TO HELP OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES KEEP UP WITH THAT GROWTH.
MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER? CARRIE YARBROUGH.
MAYOR HEDRICK SITS AT THE DAYS.
SIR, IF YOU PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
YARBROUGH, UH, LONGTIME RESIDENT OF GARLAND AND I'M ADDRESSING THE, UH, ISSUE I'VE ADDRESSED BEFORE WITH THIS COUNCIL WITH THE, UH, FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A DECENT PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM IN GARLAND.
THE ONE WE HAVE IS TOTALLY DEFICIENT.
UH, IT CONTINUES TO GET WORSE AS WE SPEAK.
MAN OF THE PODIUM LOOKS AT HIS NOTES.
I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE TO THE COUNCIL THAT ON 19 DAYS THIS YEAR, UH, 15 OF THOSE, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC TRANSIT WHEN I WANTED TO TAKE IT.
15 OUT OF 19 DAYS WAS NOTHING.
AND THEN ON OTHER DAYS, UH, THE BUS TRANSPORTATION IS NOT THERE 40% OF THE TIME BECAUSE THERE'S NO OPERATORS TO OPERATE THOSE BUSES.
UH, DART CAN'T GET OPERATORS FOR THEIR BUSES BECAUSE OF THE TOTAL 100% MISMANAGEMENT OF THE SYSTEM FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO REFORM.
THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, ALL OF WHICH NEED TO BE GOTTEN OFF THE BOARD AND A WHOLE NEW SLATE OF BOARD MEMBERS ELECTED.
UH, BUT THEY'RE ELECTED BY CITY COUNCILS.
THE TWO PEOPLE WE HAVE ON THE CITY, ON THE DART BOARD THAT'S APPOINTED BY THIS CITY COUNCIL, UH, NEEDS TO GO.
THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIVE TO THE PEOPLE WHATSOEVER.
THEY'RE, HALF THE TIME, THEY'RE EITHER NOT AT THE MEETING OR NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
IF I GO TO THE DART BOARD MEETING TO ADDRESS THE MEETING, PEOPLE GET UP AND WALK OUT OF THE ROOM WHEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME STARTS, OR THEY START LOOKING AT THEIR CELL PHONES OR SOMETHING ELSE AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL TO WHAT THE, UH, PEOPLE HAVE, UH, UH, THEY'RE MAKING THE COMMENTS OR TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING OR TO WHAT THEY'RE, UH, WANTING.
IT'S GOTTEN WORSE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
WE NEED TO GET COMPLETELY RID OF DART.
I WAS TOLD EARLIER IN THE YEAR THAT, UH, WE HAD OTHER OPTIONS ON THE TABLE AND THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS AND THAT WE COULD HAVE A PULL OUT ELECTION AS THAT IS NOVEMBER, WHICH I SEE THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
UH, NOBODY ON THIS COUNCIL SEEMS TO SEE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH DART AND THAT DART IS NOT MEETING THE NEEDS.
A CITY OF 250,000 PEOPLE HAS A NEED FOR A DECENT PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM.
NOT EVERYBODY CAN DRIVE A CAR.
SOME PEOPLE ARE EMOTIONALLY, MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY CANNOT DRIVE.
SOME ELDERLY PEOPLE CANNOT DRIVE.
SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO DRIVE AND SOME PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD A CAR AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE.
UH, WE NEED OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE AND DART SHOULD BE THE LAST RESORT OUR CITY SHOULD LOOK TO.
IT'S NO WONDER THAT SIX, THAT OF THE 13 MEMBER CITIES IN DART THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, ONE HAD A PULLOUT ELECTION THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL AND GOT OUT OF DART.
UM, NINE CITIES WERE LOOKING AT DOING THAT.
NINE OF THE 13 CITIES IN DART WERE WANTING TO HAVE PULLOUT ELECTIONS THIS YEAR.
THAT OUGHT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING RIGHT THERE.
THEY HAVE HAD A C- CEO FOR 20 YEARS THAT HAS DONE A HORRIBLE JOB AND THE ONE BEFORE THAT EVEN WORK
TO BE REIGNED IN THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR JOB AND WE NEED PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE GONNA REPRESENT US.
MADAM SECRETARY, YOU PLEASE CALL OUR NEXT SPEAKER.
MAYOR HEDRICK FACES THE CAMERA FROM BEHIND THE DAYS.
UH, BRIAN BRADFORD, 718, UH, WEEPING WILLOW ROAD, GARLAND, TEXAS.
UM, FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH SOME OF THE, UH, MOST DISTINGUISHED CITIZENS OF GARLAND AND FORMING THE, UM, VOTE, UH, YES OR GARLAND VOTE YES,
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UH, PAC.AND, UM, I THINK I HAVE PROBABLY TALKED TO WELL OVER, UH, SIX OR 700 PEOPLE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF, OF MONTHS.
THE SPEAKER LOOKS AT THE PODIUM.
QUITE A, UH, IT'S QUITE A TASK FOR AN INTROVERT.
BUT, BUT I WANTED TO COMMUNICATE TO YOU, COUNCIL, TONIGHT THAT THERE IS, THERE IS THIS COMMON MESSAGE THAT I KEEP HEARING OVER AND OVER AND OVER FROM CITIZENS, AND IT GOES SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF - THE PRESIDENT ARE LEANING SLIGHTLY OVER THE PODIUM.
THE CITIZENS OF GARLAND SEE THE PROGRESS THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS MADE OVER THE PAST FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
THEY, THEY SEE WHAT IS, HAS HAPPENED TO OUR CITY FACILITIES, MOST OF WHICH HAD BEEN BUILT IN THE 1970S AND WE HAD OUTGROWN.
THEY SEE THE INCREASED MAINTENANCE IN PARKS.
THEY ACTUALLY SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN STREETS.
THEY SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THEY DON'T WANNA GO BACKWARDS.
AND, AND WHEN THEY LOOK AT THIS ELECTION AND THEY, THEY, THEY BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, THEY ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED, DEEPLY CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS.
IT'S NOT EASY EXPLAINING MUNICIPAL FINANCE.
HE REST HANDS ON THE KEYBOARD.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE SIMPLY WON'T UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT THEY'RE VOTING FOR.
AND SO IF, IF YOU ARE A CITIZEN TONIGHT AND YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TO VOTEYESGARLAND.
HE CLASSED HIS HANDS ON THE PODIUM.
THAT, THAT, THAT WEBSITE PROVIDES INFORMATION THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF NOBERM III'S VOTE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
HE GESTURES WITH HIS OPEN RIGHT HAND.
HE LEANS HIS WEIGHT ON THE PODIUM.
I WANNA THANK YOU FOR A THANK - DOING A THANKLESS JOB.
HE GLANCES DOWN AT THE LAPTOP SCREEN.
UM, AND AS I WAS SITTING BACK HERE TONIGHT, I COULDN'T HELP BUT, UH, REMEMBER THE YEARS I S - I SPENT, UH, SITTING IN MR. BETT'S CHAIR.
AND, UH, MICHAEL, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING, IT IS A WHOLE LOT MORE FUN ON THIS SIDE OF THE DICE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT? HE LOOKS UP FROM HIS DESK.
SEEING NONE, COUNSEL, WE WILL RECONVENE OUR WORK SESSION AT 9:30 AND AT 9:07, WE ARE ADJOURNED.