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IT IS SIX O'CLOCK.LET'S CALL THE OCTOBER 14TH, 2026 MEETING OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCE BOARD THREE TO ORDER.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR JULY 22ND MEETING.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR. NIX, A SECOND TO APPROVE BY MR. DOLLAR.
SO THERE'S NO COMMENTS FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
THAT WILL BE PRESENTATION OF OVERVIEW OF THE TIF ZONE MAP.
I'M THE CITY'S CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
UM, AND I'M JOINED UP HERE BY MATTHEW WATSON, ONE OF THE CITY'S ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS.
SO WE'LL FIRST TAKE YOU THROUGH THE TIF THREE, UH, GIS MAP.
UM, SO, UH, JUST WALK YOU THROUGH THE LAYERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FIRST IS WE HAVE EACH OF THE CITY'S TIF ZONES.
SO OBVIOUSLY THIS GROUP'S INTERESTED IN ZONE NUMBER THREE, BUT IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN THE OTHER ZONES, THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
UM, A LAYER FOR CITY OWNED PROPERTY, A LAYER FOR CITY OWNED PROPERTY OUTSIDE OF GARLAND, UM, GISD OWNED PROPERTY, UH, PROPERTY OWNED BY THE GARLAND FOUNDATION FOR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND CITY LIMITS.
AND BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THESE LAYERS ACCORDING TO GIS IN OUR IT DEPARTMENT CAN BE MADE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE OR MADE TO WHERE THEY COULD BE DOWNLOADABLE, UM, IT WILL BE CONTACTING EACH ONE OF YOU TO SET UP YOUR ACCESS TO THIS MAP.
SO, UH, YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM A SARAH GARCIA IN IT.
UM, SHE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN ACCESS THIS MAP.
ANSWER A PHONE CALL? IT'LL BE AN EMAIL.
BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REAL JUST, YOU KNOW.
IS IT ON, IS IT ON TEAMS? WILL IT BE AVAILABLE ON THERE OR WHAT, WHAT FORMAT? IT WON'T.
IT'S, IT'S THROUGH AN APPLICATION CALLED ARC GIS.
SO, AND IF YOU'RE A GOOD GIS USER, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I'M STILL A NEWBIE.
SO, UM, SO THIS YOU SEE HERE, I'LL KIND OF ZOOM OUT FIRST IS OUR TIF THREE ZONE.
YOU CAN SEE THE ORANGE, UM, WAS FROM OUR ORIGINAL, UH, MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA.
AND THEN IN THE PURPLE, WE HAVE THE NORTH-SOUTH EXPANSION.
UM, THOUGH IT WAS IMPORTANT TO CALL THEM OUT IN DIFFERENT COLORS.
AND I'LL TOGGLE THE LAYERS ON ONE BY ONE, BUT THEN WE, WE CAN LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, ALL TOGETHER IF, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE.
UM, SO FIRST IS YOU CAN TOGGLE ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
YOU WILL SEE THAT IT COMES ON IN THIS BLUE COLOR.
AND THERE IS, UH, QUITE A LOT.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PROPERTIES DOWN HERE OWNED BY THE CITY IN THE SOUTH GARLAND AREA OF THE TIF.
SOME OF THE, UH, CITY OWNED PROPERTY WITHIN THE TIF AND KEEP GOING UP TO EVEN MORE.
AND, UH, THESE LAYERS ARE ROUTINELY UPDATED BY OUR, PRIMARILY OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS.
UM, SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT AS IT RECEIVES UPDATES FROM THEM, THEY ALSO PUSH IT TO THESE LAYERS AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT WAY YOU, UH, IT GETS MAINTAINED.
UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY RELEVANT TO THIS TIF, UM, BUT THERE IS, IT DOES INDICATE, UM, A PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY, UM, OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE ONE PIECE OVER HERE ADJACENT TO OUR LANDFILL.
UM, IT'S ON THERE MORE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.
YOU DO HAVE THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT CAN BE LAYERED ON.
SO IF YOU'RE CURIOUS, ALL THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT, UH, THE TIF SPANS, YOU CAN SEE THEM AS A LAYER.
YOU HAVE THE, UH, PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE GARLAND FOUNDATION FOR DEVELOPMENT.
WHY DID IT TIME OUT ON ME? I APOLOGIZE.
HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE.
UM, THEY'RE HERE IN THIS, UM, KIND OF BROWN OUTLINE.
SO - IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING.
SO I THINK THE FOUNDATION OWNS THE OLD STORAGE UNITS AND STUFF THAT ARE IN THE SOUTH END OF OURS.
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YEAH.I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU'RE LAYERING, I WOULD JUST PUT THE CITY FOUNDATION LAYER ON TOGETHER BECAUSE IT BASICALLY MEANS ALL CONTROLLED LAND THAT IS, UH, WITHIN THE CITY'S REACH.
SO THOSE, THOSE, THIS IS THOSE TWO LAYERS TOGETHER.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE BIGGER PORTION THERE AT KINGSLEY, THAT'S THE OLD HYPERMART.
IT'S WHERE THE CITY CAME IN AND TOOK OVER A PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WAS, THERE WERE PEOPLE SLEEPING IN STORAGE BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
FOR THE MOST PART, MOST OF THE LAND IN THE TIFS IS GOING TO JUST BE VACANT.
IT MAY HAVE HAD A STRUCTURE ON IT, BUT WE'VE DEMOED IT AT THIS POINT.
SO THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE COMBINED ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN.
DUE TO THE SIZE OF OUR TIF, I'M HAVING TO KIND OF TAKE IT ZONE BY ZONE, UP AND DOWN.
UM, OTHERWISE IT'D BE SO SMALL IT'D BE HARD TO READ.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE GISD OWNED PROPERTIES HERE IN, IN GREEN.
UM, AS, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, LOOKS AT THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION, KIND OF HOW THEY STRUCTURE THE SCHOOLS, UM, THEY DECIDE TO DO CONSOLIDATIONS OR ANY CHANGES TO THEIR FACILITIES, UM, THESE PROPERTIES COULD, UM, HAVE A FUTURE OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEN FINALLY, EACH OF THE, UH, TIF ZONES COULD BE LAYERED ON.
SO YOU HAVE TIF ONE SURROUNDS THE DOWNTOWN IN FOREST JUPITER.
IT FOLLOWS ALONG THAT DART LINE.
YOU HAVE TIF TWO, WHICH IS OVER HERE ALONG I-30 IN THE HARBOR POINT AREA.
UM, THE ORIGINAL AREA WAS THIS RED AND THEN IT WAS RECENTLY EXPANDED AND EXTENDED WITH THIS LIGHT PINK.
THEY HAVE THE SATELLITE LAYER.
SO IS HARBOR POINT, IS BASS PRO IN THAT AREA? YES.
YOU CAN SEE SOMEONE'S USED GIS A LITTLE BIT.
OF COURSE, WE'D LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIP WITH DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE THEM NO LONGER TAX EXEMPT.
ALTHOUGH THE KIND OF BLOCKS IT OUT.
IF YOU ZOOM IN FAR ENOUGH, I THINK IT SHOWS YOU THE INFORMATION.
AND IT'S STILL, UM, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US ON THIS.
SO IF THERE ARE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR SOMETHING YOU SEE THAT WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE OF INTEREST OR VALUE TO HAVE MADE AVAILABLE, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
UM, HAPPY TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK TONIGHT OR, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU HAVE THE LINK AND YOU HAVE TIME TO PLAY WITH IT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO EMAIL IT AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT AS A GROUP AGAIN AND I CAN WORK WITH THE, UM, SARAH IN IT TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? SEE, YOU DID GOOD.
HOPEFULLY IT GIVES US ALL A TOOL TO FOLLOW ALONG AND KEEP TRACK OF THE PROPERTIES AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR ZONE.
THIS IS GONNA BE THE ALLISON SHOW TONIGHT.
SO THIS, WE WILL, WE WILL LET MATT TALK A FAIR AMOUNT HERE TOO.
WE HAVE SEVERAL, UM, NEW BOARD MEMBERS, UM, ABOUT WHY DEVELOPMENT MATTERS TO THE TIF.
SO I'M GONNA MOVE FORWARD ONE SLIDE TO PAGE FOUR.
UM, SO THIS IS HOW, UM, A TIF OR TURS, THOSE CAN BE USED INTERCHANGEABLY, UM, RECEIVES ITS FUNDING.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY FUNDED BY A GROWTH AND TAXABLE VALUE ABOVE THE BASE YEAR.
SO WHENEVER YOU START THAT TIF, WHATEVER VALUES ON THE GROUND BECOMES YOUR BASE, THAT WILL STILL FLOW TO YOUR TYPICAL GENERAL FUND AND DEBT SERVICE FUNDS.
ANY GROWTH ABOVE THAT NO LONGER GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY OR TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND FOR, UH, TO SUPPORT CAPITAL PROJECTS.
IT NOW GOES INTO ITS OWN FUND TO BE USED FOR REINVESTMENT IN THAT ZONE SPECIFICALLY.
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VALUABLE SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE TIF FOR PROJECTS, UM, BECAUSE WHILE EXISTING PROPERTY WILL LIKELY APPRECIATE OVER TIME, THAT GROWTH IS SLOWER.SO, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE TIF IS TO GENERATE DEVELOPMENT, HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT, UM, AND TYPICALLY TO HAVE A, UH, DESIGNATED FUNDING SOURCE TO SUPPORT SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN THAT AREA, UM, THAT DRIVES THAT DEVELOPMENT OR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.
OUR BIGGEST, OUR BIGGEST PORTION WHEN WE STARTED - UH-HUH.
WAS WYRICK FARMS, AND THAT WAS ALL ZONED AGRICULTURAL.
SO IT WAS $1,800 A YEAR I THINK IS THE BASE.
AND NOW ALL THOSE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN RIVERSET THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH DONE AT THIS POINT, THAT'S ALL JUST APPRECIATING IN OUR HOPPER, SO.
AND, AND THAT OUTPERFORMED ITS ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS, UH - IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE DONE UNTIL LATE NEXT YEAR, I THINK.
AND SO THAT WAS THE SEED FOR THAT MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA OF THE TIF AND OF COURSE WITH THE NORTH SOUTH EXPANSION, UM, THE DEVELOPMENTS UP NORTH WITH ALL THE MULTIFAMILY AND SOME OF THE DATA CENTER ACTIVITY UP THERE IS GONNA BECOME A CATALYST TO FUNNEL BACK INTO OTHER AREAS OF THE TIF AND OF COURSE PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL HAPPENING IN THE NORTH PART OF THE TIF.
SO MOVING ON BACK TO, I'LL MOVE BACK TO PAGE THREE TO JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH JUST KIND OF SOME GENERAL UPDATES OF, UM, FOR KIND OF EACH AREA OF THE ZONE.
UM, SO FIRST IN THE NORTH AREA OF THE ZONE, UM, WE WERE TALKING WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT EARLIER AND THERE IS A MULTI-FAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.
UM, I THINK BELIEVE IT'S STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN THE SHILOH CAMPBELL AREA.
I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF UNITS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GET THAT, UM, FOR YOU ALL IF THAT'S, IT PROBABLY CAME THROUGH YOU IN THE, IN YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION CAPACITY.
IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE GOING DOWN THAT HOLE? NO, THE WHOLE IS GONNA BE - RETAIL.
UM, THERE'S ONLY LIKE 30 HOMES ON THAT CORNER.
UH, NO, THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THEY HAVE LOTS AND THEY'RE TERRACED.
THE, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH OF KROGER.
THEY'RE GOING TO REDO TRAFFIC, PUT IN APARTMENTS? YES.
THERE'S, EVERYBODY SAYS THEY HATE THEM.
THERE IS A BIG NEED BECAUSE THERE'S STILL PEOPLE MOVING HERE.
AND AT THIS POINT, FROM A REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE 98% BUILT OUT.
SO THAT MAKES SENSE THERE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC.
THEY'RE GONNA REVAMP THAT INTERSECTION, EVERYTHING ELSE.
THE PRESENTATION WAS ABOUT FIVE, SIX MONTHS AGO, I THINK, IN PLANNING AND ZONING.
AND IT WAS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT.
SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE GOOD, BUT YEAH, THAT'S GONNA BE BIG FOR US.
ON THE SIDE WHERE ALL THE APARTMENTS ARE.
SO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, I'VE SEEN THEM TAKE OUT A LOT AND THEY'VE MADE A CHANGE TO THE, THE MEDIAN.
ARE YOU TALKING THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER? I KNOW THERE'S LIKE OTHER APARTMENTS OR SOMETHING ON THAT SIDE.
SO YOU'VE GOT HOUSES ON THE NORTHWEST, KROGER AND RETAIL ON THE NORTHEAST.
ON THE SOUTHWEST, THAT'S GONNA BE WHERE THE PARK IS, SINGLE FAMILY.
AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE IS GONNA BE WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING MULTI-FAMILY.
UM - IT'S NO, IT'S GONNA BE - I MEAN, WELL, NO.
IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT THERE AT CAMPBELL.
SHILOH PARK CLOSER TO NORTHWEST.
SO THAT SPOT RIGHT THERE WHERE SHE'S AT, UM, IS GONNA BE DEVELOPED AND THEY ARE PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL TURN LANES ON CAMPBELL EACH DIRECTION.
THEY'RE PUTTING UP SCREENING ON SHILOH AS WELL BECAUSE THAT KROGER IS GETTING A FUEL CENTER.
HOUSES ARE IN THE LEFT-HAND CORNER BY THE - ISN'T THERE LIKE A FLOOD ZONE OR SOMETHING? YES.
IF YOU LOOK, SEE, SEE THE LIGHT GREEN LINE? OKAY.
DOWN? SOUTH, JUST THERE YOU GO.
THAT'S BASICALLY THE FLOOD LINE.
THEY'LL TERRACE THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA BUILD WALKING PATHS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THERE FOR PUBLIC USE.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE GOOD FOR US.
IT CROSSES YOU IN YOUR OTHER CAPACITY.
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THAT WAS RICHARDSON.AND WE HAVE THE, UM, HULFORD SITE THAT IS PART OF THE TIF.
UM, YES, WE'RE THE SOCCER FIELD.
UM, WE ARE WORKING ON, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND PARKS DEPARTMENT ARE WORKING ON THE FINAL SITE PLAN AND DESIGN.
I KNOW WE BROUGHT THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN TO THE BOARD, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN JULY, UM, AND TALKED THROUGH THAT WITH ANDY HESSER, ONE OF THE OTHER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS THAT WAS HERE.
UM, AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THAT AS WELL AS THEY'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH A POTENTIAL THIRD PARTY OPERATOR, UM, FOR THAT FACILITY, MAKING SURE THEY ARE ALSO IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DESIGN AND THE EXECUTION OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU RECALL, THERE WAS SOME, UH, AN ALLOWANCE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, AT THIS END OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT ON, ADJACENT TO, UH, PRESIDENT BUSH TURNPIKE.
AND, UM, WE, THE CITY, UH, INITIATED AN RFP, UM, FOR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS FOR THOSE COMMERCIAL SITES AND HAVE, UM, HAD SEVERAL, UH, YOU KNOW, RESPONDENTS THAT HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE PACKAGES, INTERESTING PACKAGES.
SO, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UM, AND SEVERAL OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AT THE CITY STAFF ARE GOING THROUGH SOME INTERVIEWS, UM, WITH THOSE RESPONDENTS.
AND, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMING MONTHS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, BRIEF COUNCIL, BUT MAYBE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF THIS BOARD LIKELY THROUGH AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON, UM, THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR PROJECT UP IN THAT AREA.
DID THEY EVER GET THAT LAND ACROSS THE WHOLE BOARD AND REZONING IT? OR IS THAT STILL RESTRICTED? YEAH.
SO ALL THAT LAND IS, UH, IT'S CALLED THE DAY FARM.
IT'S ALL BEEN, UH, BEEN, UH, PUT UNDER A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT EVER DEVELOPING IS OUT FURTHER NORTH.
WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE SOUTH PORTION BECAUSE IT, IN THEIR, IN THEIR, UH, AGREEMENTS, IT WAS ALLOWED TO BE SOLD FOR RECREATIONAL USE.
NO, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ONE ACROSS.
OH, THIS ONE? THAT, THAT IS GONNA BE, IT HAS SOLD AND IT'S GONNA BE A MULTIFAMILY AS WELL.
THAT WAS SPRING CREEK CHURCH? SPRING CREEK.
THE SPRING CREEK CHURCH PROPERTY.
THEY JUST CAME BEFORE US ON PLANNING AND ZONING A MONTH AGO FOR THAT SALE.
SO THERE IS, THERE IS ALSO A FLOOD ZONE RIGHT IN THERE AND BASICALLY, I THINK IT WAS A LAND SWAP SITUATION.
BECAUSE THERE CAN'T BE ANYTHING DEVELOPED IN THAT FLOOD ZONE.
SO WE WORKED WITH THEM SO THAT THEY COULD WORK WITH US AND AGAIN, IT'S THE RIGHT THING FOR THE AREA.
SO - THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
SO IN SOME, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCRETE DETAILS TO PROVIDE YOU, BUT WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THE STATUS OF THE RFP PROCESS, WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE DESIGN, FINALIZATION.
UM, THE, I BELIEVE THE GOAL IS TO, UM, FINALIZE THE SOCCER FACILITY, UM, SO IT'S PRESENTED ALONGSIDE THE UPCOMING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PRO- PROGRAMS, UH, THE CIP, WHICH IS THE CITY'S, UH, ANNUAL BUDGET FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UM, THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN JANUARY.
UM, AND THEN THE TIMELINE FOR THE RFP, UH, I THINK IS TO HAVE, AT LEAST GET FURTHER ALONG IN THE DISCUSSIONS AND THE INTERVIEWS TO WHERE WE COULD PRESENT SOMETHING TO, UM, COUNCIL AND THIS BOARD BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT - YEAH, WE HAVE A...
THAT, THIS PROJECT WILL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST ONE THAT CROSSES Y'ALL'S PATH.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ONCE WE KINDA, UH, IRON OUT SOME DETAILS WITH THE, UH, PROPOSALS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN.
OUR LA - I THINK WE HAVE OUR LAST MEETING WITH THEM AT THE END OF OCTOBER WITH ONE GROUP.
BUT I WILL SAY RIGHT NOW, MOST OF WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED IS HOTEL USE.
BECAUSE OF THE SOCCER COMPONENT, THERE'S ALSO BEEN INDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITIES.
RIGHT NOW IT'S WORKING THROUGH, BECAUSE OF COURSE WITH MOST DEVELOPERS, THEY HAVE ASK AND TRYING TO NAIL DOWN NUMBERS.
SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS NOW, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST PROJECT THAT WILL COME BACK TO Y'ALL BECAUSE IT'S FUR - THE FURTHEST ALONG.
SO HOPEFULLY IN THE DECEMBER MEETING OR IF NOT THE NEXT MEETING.
ANY QUESTIONS ON NORTH AREA BEFORE WE MOVE ONTO THE...
YEAH? WHAT NOW? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE NORTH AREA? SORY.
I'LL LEAN INTO THE MIC A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I THINK I HAD ACCIDENTALLY SCOOTED BACK.
THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE PROPOSALS.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS A MASTER DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND THEN WE JUST START LOOKING THROUGH DOING FEASIBILITY STUDIES TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE HIGHEST
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AND BEST USE.AND THEN O- OBVIOUSLY IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT ARE THE INCENTIVES? WHAT, WHAT CAN WE AFFORD? WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THEY PROVIDING TO US? SO THOSE ARE THE NEXT THINGS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE BRING THAT FORWARD TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL TALKING TO, BASED OFF OF ASKING ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BASED OFF OF THE PROPOSALS THEY'VE SUBMITTED.
WHATEVER THEY'RE PROPOSING THERE, ARE THEY GONNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT HOLEFORD ROAD? UM, HOLEFORD ROAD, HOLEFORD ROAD, THE CITY IS, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE IT, WE HAVE THAT IN OUR CIP TO REDO HOLFORD ROAD AS WELL AS - I WAS GONNA SAY NAMAN FOREST WILL COME OVER FROM WHERE IT ENDS AT LIFETIME JUST SOUTH.
AND - I BELIEVE IT'S RIGHT HERE.
OR NO, MAYBE IT'S DOWN A LITTLE BIT, SORRY.
WHAT KIND OF JOG OVER? 'CAUSE IT ENDS JUST RIGHT THERE.
SAY IT OUGHT COME RIGHT ALONG THE TREE LINE ALMOST.
'CAUSE IT ALREADY, IT ALSO ALREADY GOES UP.
YEAH, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR CURRENT CIP PLAN.
AND THAT ROAD IMPROVEMENT'S BEING TIMED WITH THE, UH, SOCCER RECREATION FACILITY DEVELOPMENT.
EVERYBODY WILL LOVE THAT BECAUSE IT'LL GET RID OF THE FLOOD ZONE.
PROBABLY PASS IT AT THIS TIME.
TO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, UH, DISCUSSIONS.
SO, UM, DO YOU WANNA JUST GIVE THIS ONE YOU'VE BEEN MORE INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION? SURE.
UM, YEAH FOR THE MEDICAL DISTRICT? I MEAN, DO YOU WANT ME TO DISCUSS THE, WHERE WE DISCUSSED? THAT'S A SEPARATE ITEM.
SO IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, THE ISSUE THAT WE'VE RUN INTO, I MEAN, AS Y'ALL ALL KNOW, BAYLOR, SCOTT AND WHITE LEFT IN 2018, AND WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY SINCE THEN TRYING TO FIND A PARTNER, UH, TO BRING A COMMUNITY HOSPITAL BACK TO GARLAND.
UH, AS Y'ALL KNOW, THE BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE, JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, THE VA HOSPITAL TOOK OVER THEIR SITE AND WE HAVE, UM...
THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH GETTING THEIR FUNDING IN PLACE FOR A, A EMERGENCY POWER SOURCE.
AND UNTIL THEY CAN GET THAT EMERGENCY POWER SOURCE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THEIR OPERATIONS IN THAT FACILITY.
BUT THEY, I BELIEVE, HAS SECURED FUNDING FOR DESIGN OF THAT.
AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING HAVING A MEETING WITH THEM HOPEFULLY BY THE, BEFORE 2027 AND THEN UPCOMING QUARTER TO FIND OUT AN UPDATE ON WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THAT POWER SOURCE.
BUT ONCE THAT OCCURS, THEN WE CAN START HAVING NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE VA.
BUT THE BIGGEST H- HURDLE WE'VE BEEN RUNNING INTO WITH THIS IS WE ARE IN PARKLAND'S, WHAT'S CALLED A HOSPITAL DISTRICT.
AND LEGALLY, IF YOU ARE IN A HOSPITAL DISTRICT, YOU CANNOT USE ANY TAX MONEY OR ANY REVENUE SOURCES TO HELP OPERATE, TO HELP BUILD A HOSPITAL.
SO IT REALLY TIES OUR HANDS ON HOW WE CAN HELP PARTICIPATE WITH THIS.
HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS WITH PARKLAND.
AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH...
WE GOT SOME LEGAL HURDLES TO JUMP THROUGH BECAUSE OF THIS HOSPITAL DISTRICT SI - UH, UH, PIECE.
BUT OUTSIDE OF HOFER, THIS IS PROBABLY THE NEXT ONE.
I'M, I'M, I'M HOPEFUL WE WILL BE ABLE TO BRING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO Y'ALL TO DISCUSS A PROPOSAL THAT PARKLAND HAS BEEN COMING FORWARD WITH.
UH, BUT FIRST WE NEED TO J - GET OVER S - A FEW HURDLES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND WE ALSO NEED TO DETERMINE WHERE THEY MIGHT WANNA BE LOCATED.
I CAN'T PROMISE THAT IT'S A HOSPITAL.
CAN'T PROMISE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THOSE NEGOTIATIONS.
BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PARKLAND IN COMMUNICATION WITH US FINALLY IS A GOOD SIGN.
SO, UH, JUST KNOW THAT THERE IS CONTINUED MOVEMENT THERE.
WE OWN THIS SITE AND FURTHER THIS SITE HERE.
AND SO REALLY IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO WHAT PARKLAND'S PROPOSAL REALLY SHAKES OUT TO BE AND WHERE THEY WANNA LOCATE, IF THEY WANNA LOCATE, IF WE CAN HELP FUND IT.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS WE'RE TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT NOW.
AND I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN THAT OTHER THAN IT'S ENCOURAGING THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM.
WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE IS THE VA FACILITY PROVIDING RIGHT NOW? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY ALL OF IT, BUT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU OF ALL THE,
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UH, DIFFERENT SERVICES THEY PROVIDE.THEY, THEY HAVE SEVERAL FAMILY DOCTORS, WELLNESS, UM, THERE'S NO SURGICAL - YEAH.
THERE'S - THEY'LL DO MENTAL HEALTH.
THEY'LL DO, UH, A LOT OF YOUR, YOUR JOINTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, UH - WE CAN GET A FULL LIST OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE THERE.
TRAFFIC, UH, WELL, SUPPOSEDLY, SUPPOSED TO BE A COUPLE OF WHAT? NORTHEAST TEXAS AND, UM, DON'T KNOW IF THOSE TRANSFERS HAVE BEEN MADE.
THEY CAN'T, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A FUNCTIONAL OFFICE SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY DO IN PLANO.
I KNOW MY, MY SON-IN-LAW'S A PHYSICAL THERAPIST.
WHEN HE FIRST GOT OUT OF SCHOOL A COUPLE YEARS AGO, HE WAS TRYING TO SEE IF HE COULD GET ON THERE, BUT THEY WEREN'T OFFERING EVEN PHYSICAL THERAPY YET.
AND THAT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
BUT THEY WERE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN IT YET OR NOT.
WE CAN SEND OUT AN EMAIL OF THE, THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED CURRENTLY AT THE VA.
AND AGAIN, I KNOW THEIR BIGGEST...
WE'LL KNOW MORE AGAIN, UH, IF WE, ONCE WE GET THAT UPDATE FROM THEM ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THEIR POWERS.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE POWER IN ORDER FOR THEM TO THEN EXPAND, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TO BE HONEST.
IS IT GONNA BE LIKE A SIMILAR TO A TEACHING HOSPITAL OR, UM, UM, SURGERY? THEY'RE WORK...
RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT PARKLAND'S INVOLVEMENT IS.
THEY ARE SCOPING OUT BASED OFF OF DATA THEY HAVE ABOUT GARLAND'S DEMOGRAPHICS, ABOUT GARLAND'S RESIDENTS, AND ABOUT HOW WE INTERACT WITH PARKLAND AT THEIR MAIN HOSPITAL.
SO THEY'RE SCOPING THAT OUT TO DETERMINE WHAT EXACTLY THEY FEEL IS THE BEST FIT, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA COME TO US, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME NEGOTIATIONS.
SO AGAIN, I CAN'T PROMISE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT OTHER THAN IT'S ENCOURAGING THAT WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
THAT IS ENCOURAGING, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT'S IT ON THE DEVELOPMENT UPDATE FOR THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
OF COURSE, WE'LL DIVE FURTHER INTO KIND OF THE PLANS FOR THIS AREA AND, AND A FUTURE ITEM.
GET TO SEE ALLISON GO HUNTING AGAIN.
SO JUST TRYING TO GET IT KINDA ALL TO SHOW KIND OF THIS CORE AREA.
SO, UM, AS WE, AS YOU SAW ON THE MAP, UH, THE CITY, UH, AND THE FOUNDATION HAVE THIS HYPERMARK SITE.
UM, AND I BELIEVE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, HOPEFULLY, IF NOT BY THE END OF THE YEAR, EARLY 2027, UM, THAT THE KIND OF CONSTRUCTION STAGING AND CONCRETE OPERATION THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, LEASING LAND FROM US TO OPERATE WITH THE 635 PROJECT WILL FINISH UP THEIR NEED FOR THAT SITE AND, AND VACATE, UM, ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, TO CLEAN UP THAT SITE AND GET IT, UH, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TOWARDS PAD READY.
UM, AND THEN THE CITY IS ALSO, AND THE FOUNDATION HAVE ALSO ACQUIRED, UM, SOME BUILDINGS DOWN IN THIS AREA, UM, ADJACENT TO THE, UH, DART TRANSIT CENTER AND, AND PARKING LOT.
UM, AND SO THOSE HAVE BEEN, UH, DEMOLISHED AND WORKING THROUGH GETTING THAT, UH, MORE DEVELOPER READY OR PAD READY, UM, IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO THAT'S A, A PROMISING STEP FORWARD SINCE OUR LAST ONE IS THAT THE DEMOLITION HAS MOVED FORWARD WITH THOSE.
UM, AND THEN OUR NEXT BIG PHASE, UM, WILL BE TO, IF YOU RECALL, UM, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH DART AND WE HAVE AN INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT REGARDING THEIR TRANSIT CENTER AND, UH, POTENTIALLY RELOCATING THAT TRANSIT CENTER, UM, WITHIN THIS GENERAL VICINITY, UM, BASED ON WHATEVER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, UH, PLANS MATERIALIZE THERE.
UM, WE GOT AGREEMENT WITH THEM BASED ON ONE SET OF PRELIMINARY PLANS.
WE NEED TO, UM, HAVE SOME FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AS THOUGH ANY KIND OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS HAVE EVOLVED.
UM, BUT WE BELIEVE THEY'LL BE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT STILL, THE ILA, UM, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO DOWNSIZE THEIR PARKING, MODERNIZE THE TRANSIT CENTER, AND, AND JUST KIND OF MAKE THAT WHOLE SITE MORE EFFICIENT, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR, UH, REDEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, FEEL FREE.
YEAH, SO, UH, THIS, WE'LL PROBABLY SAY, I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS PROBABLY WHEN WE GET INTO OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
IT'S KIND OF THE, UH, APPROACH WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING FOR SOUTH, UH, AND IT'S MOSTLY RELATED TO WHAT'S KIND OF IN THESE AGREEMENTS.
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UM, I'LL JUST WAIT TILL WE GET TO THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE SECTION AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH FURTHER.AND THEN - IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR, UM, INDUSTRY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TARGETING TO MOVE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT...
UH - DO YOU WANNA TABLE THAT TABLE YOUR QUESTION FOR OPPORTUNITY ZONE? YEAH.
THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS IS THERE IS A KIND OF STUDY ABOUT THE REALIGNMENT OF MALAI, UM, WITH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT'S STILL ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE TABLE AND IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO OCCUR, UM, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE AND WHERE IT, YOU KNOW, THAT REALIGNMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE RELOCATION OF THAT TRANSIT CENTER.
AND SO WE CAN ANSWER, UH, YOUR QUESTION, MR. TORRES.
IS IT MORE LIKE THE CITY AND THE CHAMBER THAT LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING IN THESE PLACES AND THESE BASES? MOST OF IT'S THE CITY.
THIS IS STILL UNDER THE SAME ITEM.
THIS WILL NOW BE, UM, OPPORTUNITY ZONE DESIGNATION WITHIN THE TIF AND I'LL PULL UP OUR SLIDE.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE IT PRINTED IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL.
UM, IF YOU ATTENDED OUR GARLAND ON THE RISE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FORUM, WHICH I KNOW MS. PARKER DID, UM, SHE'S SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE, UM, BUT IT'S EXCITING NEWS AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MATT TO TALK ABOUT AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITHIN THIS CONTEXT.
UM, SO FIRST I'LL JUST DESCRIBE OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
SO OPPORTUNITY ZONES HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE 2017.
UH, THIS IS OPPORTUNITY ZONE 2.0.
IN THE PREVIOUS OPPORTUNITY ZONE 1.0, THE CITY OF GARLAND GOT ONE OPPORTUNITY ZONE AND IT WAS OFF OF DUCK CREEK, LITERALLY UNDEVELOPABLE AND WASN'T HELPFUL TO US.
UM, IN THE SECOND ROUND, THE GOVERNOR, GOVERNOR'S OFFICE DID THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE HE GOT A LOT OF PUSHBACK ABOUT HOW HE SELECTED OPPORTUNITY ZONES IN 1.0.
AND HE AT LEAST ALLOWED, UH, CITIES AND COUNTIES TO PROVIDE INPUT INTO WHAT ZONES, UH, WE WOULD PARTICULARLY LIKE, UH, TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
AND WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS, IS IT, IT PROVIDES TAX SHELTER FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE VERY, THAT ARE VERY WEALTHY, THAT HAVE CAPITAL GAINS TAX.
AND WHAT IT DOES IS, IS IF YOU HAVE A LARGE SUM OF CAPITAL GAINS TAX, WHICH, UH, IF Y'ALL KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CAPITAL GAINS TAX, IF YOU'RE MAKING A BUNCH OF MONEY OFF A SALE OF AN ASSET, STOCKS, YOU'RE USUALLY GONNA BE TAXED 10 TO 35% ON THE, THAT MONEY.
WHAT THIS DOES IS PROVIDE A TAX SHELTER IF YOU INVEST IT IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
SO WHAT YOU TYPICALLY WOULD DO IS JUST PUT IT IN WHAT'S CALLED A QUALIFIED OPPORTUNITY FUND.
AND THAT MONEY, IF IT SITS THERE FOR 10 YEARS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PAY CAPITAL GAINS TAX.
SO WHAT IT DOES IS ON THE EQUITY SIDE RATHER THAN ON THE DEBT SIDE FOR WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN IMPROVEMENT IN AN AREA THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, IT PROVIDES EQUITY PARTNERS THAT MORE LIKELY WOULD NOT SHOW UP TO HELP INVEST IN A PROJECT WITHOUT HAVING THIS TOOL.
SO IT'S A FEDERAL IRS TOOL, WHICH IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO US BECAUSE IT'S NOT CITY FUNDS, NOT TIF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TO HELP DISTRIBUTE.
THE BEST PART OF IT ABOUT IT IS, IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ALLOWED US TO, TO PROVIDE ZONES, WE BASICALLY LAYERED A LOT OF THESE OVER TIF THREE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IN ALL OF SOUTH GARLAND, THIS IS OPPORTUNITY ZONES WITH THE TIF RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH HERE.
YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE ONE UP NORTH THAT ALSO HAS HOLFORD WHERE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT UP NORTH AS WELL, AS WELL AS OUT HERE, DART AND THEN OFF THE I-30 TIF.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IN 10 AND SIX WERE SELECTED.
SO WE WERE EXTREMELY HAPPY, UH, WITH THE, WITH WHAT WE GOT OUT OF THIS.
AND THIS IS GONNA PROVIDE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET EQUITY PARTNERS INTO SOUTH GARLAND INTO THE HULFORD AREA.
SO BACK TO SOUTH GARLAND AND WHAT KIND OF INDUSTRIES WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
IN THE DART, UH, CONTRACTS, WE HAVE TO GO OUT WITH AN RFP FOR A MASTER PLAN.
AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT AS THE FINANCE GUY, THESE MASTER PLANS ARE USUALLY JUST PIE IN THE SKY WHAT CAN HAPPEN.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO INSTEAD OF JUST GOING OUT FOR A MASTER PLAN AND THEM TELLING US WHAT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS GOING TO BE, WE'RE NOW WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER PROSPECTUSES FOR THESE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, START TALKING TO THESE INVESTORS THAT GO TO OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND JUST SAYING, "HEY, I HAVE THIS SITE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL GO HERE?" AND WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING OUT AN RFP SOON IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
THIS HAS TIF, IT'S IN A TIF AND IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE AND HOPING TO START PIQUING SOME OF THESE PEOPLE'S INTEREST ALL ACROSS
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THE UNITED STATES, NOT JUST PEOPLE IN DALLAS, BUT ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST USE HERE? SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WHEN WE DO THAT, THE RFP PROCESS, MORE PEOPLE WILL SHOW UP ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
'CAUSE TYPICALLY WHEN YOU PUT OUT AN RFP, YOU GET SIX, SEVEN DEVELOPERS.
IT'S USUALLY JUST BUILT OFF OF THINGS THAT WE SAY WE WANT FROM OUR OWN MASTER PLANNING.
WE'RE TAKING A LITTLE DIFFERENT APPROACH BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS TOOL AND THERE ARE SO MANY INVESTORS INTERESTED IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES BECAUSE THEY WANT TAX SHELTER THAT IF WE DO A PROSPECTUS OUT FIRST, START ENGAGING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY BEFORE WE DO AN RFP, THAT IT WILL HELP BRING IN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR US WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO GO OUT FOR AN RFP.
SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR, OUR STRATEGY RIGHT NOW FOR SOUTH GARLAND AND WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA START WITH SOUTH GARLAND AND HOLEFORD BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO PROJECTS.
WE OWN SO MUCH LAND AND WE HAVE TIF FINANCING TO HELP.
THOSE ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE THE FIRST TWO OUT THE GATE.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHAT KIND OF INDUSTRIES WE'RE LOOKING THERE, I KNOW THERE'S, YOU CAN ASK ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THERE WANTS DIFFERENT THINGS.
RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST ENGAGE EVERYONE AND, AND BRING IN THE INFORMATION AND WHO'S BRINGING THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR BOTH US AND FOR BOTH, UH, OUR CITIZENS AS FAR AS NOT GIVING AWAY THE FARM AND ALSO MAKING SURE WE HAVE A REALLY GAME CHANGER FOR ESPECIALLY SOUTH GARLAND.
AND I WILL SAY WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING SIX OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
LIKE REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY, VERY EXCITING.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE OR ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT UPDATES OR ANY OTHER AREAS IN THE TIP? SO THE WINDOW OPENS IN JANUARY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
IS THAT THE OFFICIAL NAME FOR THE PROPERTY, THE WEDGE? OH.
THAT, THAT IS THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THAT AREA.
AND WE DO HEAR ABOUT IT OFTEN.
THESE, IN PLANNING AND ZONING, WE'RE ALREADY HEARING THIS IS IN THESE ZONES.
THOSE THAT MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THE WEDGE REFERS TO, UM, THE CITY ADOPTED A STRATEGIC PLAN BACK IN JUNE AND ALONGSIDE THAT ALSO CAME A COMMUNITY, I THINK IT WAS A COMMUNITY HOUSING STUDY IS THE KIND OF NAMING OF IT, AND IDENTIFIED AREAS WITHIN THE CITY, ONE THAT NEED, YOU KNOW, INCREASED UNITS, INCREASED DENSITY, INCREASED REDEVELOPMENT OR REINVESTMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, AND THEN ALSO IN, UH, IDENTIFIED AREAS OF THE CITY THAT WERE, UM, ON THE EDGE TO WHERE IF YOU PUT A LITTLE BIT OF CITY INVESTMENT, A LITTLE BIT OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT, THEY WOULD KIND OF START SPIRALING UP AND NATURALLY IMPROVING THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF SLOWLY, YOU KNOW, DECAYING AS THEY AGE.
UM, SO THAT, IT IDENTIFIED THE WEDGE AS ONE OF THE KEY AREAS, UM, FOR THAT REINVESTMENT.
AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST AREAS WE KIND OF DEPLOY SOME OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING ACTIVITIES IN.
AND WE CAN GET THOSE DOCUMENTS TO THE TIF BOARD IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T SEEN THEM ALREADY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.
ITEM 3C, UPDATE ON AN OVERVIEW OF MEDICAL DISTRICT STREETSCAPE PLAN.
MATT AND I WILL DO OUR BEST TO TAG TEAM THIS.
AS INDICATED EARLIER, ANDY HESSER WENT ON A VACATION, SO, AND THIS IS KIND OF MORE IN HIS GROUP'S WHEELHOUSE WITH PLAN.
UM, SO WE HAVE TWO PLANS, UM, THAT WE'LL BE SUMMARIZING FOR YOU ALL AND I'LL TRY TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH SOME OF THE RELEVANT PAGES AS I RECAP.
UM, FIRST WAS THE GARLAND MEDICAL DISTRICT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021.
AND THEN SECOND WAS A SECOND, UH, UH, HEALTH PARK MASTER PLAN DESIGN IN 2023.
AND SO THE FIRST, THE 2021 MASTER PLAN WAS MORE OF A POLICY PLAN.
IT REVIEWED WHAT THE DISTRICT SHOULD BECOME AND WHO COULD LEAD THOSE STEPS.
AND THEN THE 2023 MASTER PLAN WAS MORE OF A DESIGN.
IT FOCUSED ON POTENTIAL DESIGNS FOR THE STREETS, ENTRYWAYS, PARKS, LIGHTING, AND SIGN, SIGNAGE TO KIND OF BRAND THE ZONE AND THE DISTRICT, UM, WITH A UNIFIED THEME AND,
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UM, IMAGERY.AND THAT WAS THE ONE WHERE THEY DID THE PRESENTATION AND ACTUALLY HAD THE STREETS AND EVERYTHING SET UP OUT THERE.
WHICH I CANNOT FIND THAT VIDEO, BY THE WAY.
SO - I THOUGH THAT THEY HAD IT ON THE WEBSITE EVERYWHERE ELSE AND I CAN'T FIND IT EITHER.
THEY SHUT DOWN ONE SECTION OF MARIE, GARY, AND I MEAN, THEY HAD FOOD TRUCKS AND IT WAS REALLY COOL.
YOU WOULD THINK?
AND, AND BOTH OF, AND IF I, I CAN'T, I'M SORRY IF I ALREADY SAID THIS, BUT BOTH OF THESE PLANS ARE WITHIN YOUR TEAM'S CHANNEL.
I WOULD HAVE PRINTED THEM FOR YOU, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER 200 PAGES AND A LOT TO THUMB THROUGH.
SO, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE A PRINTED COPY, JUST LET ME KNOW.
SO KIND OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THIS FIRST RESOLUTION.
UM, THE COUNCIL ADOPTED THIS PLAN IN 2021 AND IT DESCRIBES A COHESIVE DISTRICT IN THIS CATALYST AREA, UM, WITH THE IDEA OF IT BEING ANCHORED BY THE VA MEDICAL CENTER, UM, AS IDENTIFIED IN THE, UH, 2020, 2030 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, FOR THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW, THE CITY'S CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, UM, WITH, I BELIEVE THAT READOUT SOMETIME IN 2027.
UM, AND SO THERE WAS AN INPUT PERIOD THAT RAN FROM 2020 TO 2021 AND INCLUDED A LOT OF SITE VISITS, STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, MEETINGS, WORKSHOPS, ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENTS.
UM, SO WHAT THE PLAN ESSENTIALLY FOUND WAS, UM, IT'S A COMPLEX DISTRICT WITH SEVEN DIFFERENT ZONING APPROACHES.
NONE AT THAT TIME WERE EXCLUSIVELY MEDICAL, UM, AND OVER 50 PROPERTIES MAKING UP THIS AREA.
IT'S A DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WITH APPROXIMATELY 20,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN IT.
UM, AND FROM JUST THIS, FROM 2000 TO 2018, UM, THE ADJACENT TRACKS WENT FROM ABOUT 25% TO ALMOST 49% IDENTIFYING AS HISPANIC OR LATIN- LATINO.
AND THE POPULATION GROWTH THERE HAS, UM, SLOWED AND IT'S ACTUALLY GROWING LESS THAN THE CITY'S OVERALL POPULATION GROWTH.
UM, BUT WE ARE SEEING DIVERSIFICATION OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE IS HOUSING PRESSURE, UM, BECAUSE GARLAND'S MEDIAN HOME PRICE IN THIS AREA HAS ESSENTIALLY DOUBLED, UM, UH, IN ABOUT A 10-YEAR PERIOD.
UM, AND THIS PLAN HAD IDENTIFIED THAT AS A RISK, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR UNUSED PARCELS, UM, THAT IT MAY BE PULLED TO REDEVELOP FOR HOUSING INSTEAD OF A COMMERCIAL OR MEDICAL PURPOSE.
SO I'M SORRY, I SHOULD PROBABLY SCROLL AS I SAY THESE THINGS.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, THE, UM, THERE'S SOME WEAK PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS.
THE DISTRICT'S ABOUT ONE AND A HALF MILES FROM BOTH DART STATIONS.
SHILOH ROAD HAD SIDEWALK GAPS.
THERE WERE NO BIKE LANES OR TRAILS AND PARKING, UH, EXCEEDED THE ACTUAL NEED.
THERE WAS MORE PARKING LOTS THAN USED ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO THERE WERE FOUR ITEMS IDENTIFIED.
UM, THE FIRST WAS REALLY TO LEVERAGE THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD'S DIVERSITY TO DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING A MULTICULTURAL SHOPPING DESTINATION- DESTINATION ON WALNUT.
UM, IT'S TO, AS THIS SLIDE SHOWS, IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY, UM, SIGNALS ON SHILOH, ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN, UH, BIKE CHANGES AND, UH, WALKABILITY TO WALNUT AND BETTER LINKS TO THE DART AND ULTIMATELY TO DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN THIS IS WHERE I'LL START SCROLLING BECAUSE TRY TO STAY UP WITH, UM...
AND THEN CREATING A SENSE OF PLACE, UM, BY FOCUSING ON THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE, UM, LOOKING AT FACADES, SIGNAGE, MURALS, PARKLETS, SHARED USE, UH, PATHS AND SERVICES, UH, PARKLETS AND OUTDOOR DINING, UH, A DUCK CREEK TRAIL AND HEALING GARDEN.
UH, AND ULTIMATELY THE, UM, GARDEN WOULDN'T...
THIS AS PROPOSED IN THIS PLAN AND THEN ULTIMATELY IS ECHOED IN THE 2023, UH, MASTER PLAN WOULD NEED AGREEMENT WITH THE
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VA.UM, AND THAT, UH, CON - THAT WHOLE DISCUSSION AND AGREEMENTS ON HOLD, UM, BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR THE ENERGY SUPPLY, WHILE THEY WORK THROUGH THE DESIGN AND LOCATION OF THAT, THEY HAVE TO PAUSE ANY FURTHER AGREEMENTS BECAUSE THEY NEED TO DETERMINE WHERE THAT WILL BE LOCATED ON THEIR PROPERTY, HOW THAT WILL IMPACT THEIR OVERALL SITE USE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY AN AGREEMENT WITH, UM, THE CITY FOR ANY PUBLIC ACCESS, UM, THROUGH THEIR SITE.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT AS THEY HAVE THE FUNDING AND MOVE THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE'LL HAVE BETTER ANSWERS AND INFORMATION ABOUT THE HEALING GAR- GARDEN AND TRAIL IDEA, UH, AND CONCEPT THROUGH THIS, THIS PART OF THE, THE DISTRICT.
AND THEN FINALLY, IT WA - IT, UH, PUT A PRIORITY ON PROTECTING, UM, THE MEDICAL COMPONENTS OF THE CA - UH, CAMPUS AND KEEPING THE DISTRICT'S ABILITY TO MAINTAIN CLINICAL ACTIVITY, UM, WITH RESERVING MOST OF THE LAND USES FOR CLINICAL EDUCATIONAL TRAINING AND SUPPORTING MEDICAL USES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS, UM, WHICH IF WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN, I CAN GET A REAL PLANNER IN TO TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, SO IMPLEMENTATION IDENTIFIED, UM, SEVEN ACTIONS, UM, ORGANIZE A CITY INTERNAL TEAM.
UM, THIS IS PRIMARILY BEING KIND OF LED BY OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF THE ACTIVITIES, MONITORING OF THIS AREA, AND, UM, PARTICULARLY ON THE DEVELOPMENT FRONT, UM, MAN - YOU KNOW, M- MONITORING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THIS PART OF THE DISTRICT, UM, DRAFT, UH, A PD ORDINANCE FOR THE AREA, OF COURSE, HAVE THE, UH, HEALING GARDEN AND TRAIL, WHICH IS PENDING, UH, THE VA, ENHANCE WALNUT STREET FROM A PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE PERSPECTIVE, IMPROVE THE CURB APPEAL OF COMMERCIAL CENTERS, UH, IMPROVE SHILOH ROAD, WHICH I WILL CALL OUT, UM, THE CITY'S HA - IN OUR CURRENT CIP HAS SEVERAL PHASES OF SHILOH CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.
UM, THE PHASE OF SHILOH MOST ADJACENT TO THIS A- AREA WOULD BE SHILOH FROM MILLER TO WALNUT, UM, AND THAT'S PROJECTED FOR A 2032 CONSTRUCTION START AT THIS TIME.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, STUDY SHUTTLE OR CONNECTIVITY, UH, POTENTIALS BETWEEN THE VA AND DART AND JUST OVERALL CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THAT AREA.
SO MOVING OVER TO THE VELOS HEARTH - HEALTH PARK PLAN, AND THEN I'LL KINDA TRY TO SUMMARIZE AND CONNECT THE TWO, AND WE CAN REVISIT EITHER.
UM, THIS WAS A DESIGN LEVEL PLAN DEVELOPED IN, AND ADOPTED IN 2023, UM, AND 90% OF IT, UH, OF THE DESIGN WAS, UH, ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, AND ITS GUIDING PRINCIPLES WERE TO ACCOMMODATE, CONNECT, BE A BEACON, AND UNIFY.
UM, THE STAKEHOLDERS WANTED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND WALKABILITY, LIGHTING FOR SAFETY, UH, AND DISTRICT IDENTITY, OUTDOOR SPACE, SIGNAGE, CONNECTION TO DUCK CREEK, AND THEN THEY ALSO WANTED TO KNOW IF ADJACENT PROPERTIES COULD BE PURCHASED FOR STRATEGIC REDEVELOPMENT.
UM, LET ME GET INTO THE FRAMEWORK.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THEY WERE AT.
UM, HERE'S THE SLIDE ABOUT WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT IT.
I GOT BEHIND ON SCROLLING AS I WAS TALKING, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, AND IT REALLY ANTICIPATED WHAT THIS IDENTITY, DESIGN, AND AESTHETIC COULD BE, UM, FOR THE OVERALL DISTRICT.
IT FOCUSED ON THE ACTUAL HEALTH PARK ITSELF, UM, THE STREETSCAPING, THE HEALTH PARK, AND WHAT IT COULD BE.
SO I'M JUST GONNA SCROLL THROUGH SOME OF THE DESIGNS.
UM, THERE'S NO GOOD WAY TO DESCRIBE THIS, YOU JUST HAVE TO, TO SEE THE DESIGNS.
SO IT OUTLINED ALL THE, THE PROPERTIES AND THE STREETSCAPING BE- BETWEEN THIS AREA, THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, AND IT CAME UP WITH, UM, IF YOU'RE AN ENGINEER, THE ACTUAL, WHAT THE ROADWAY, UM, CONSTRUCTION, UH, MEDIAN SHOULD LOOK LIKE,
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THE DESIGN ELEMENTS ON THAT, THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALKS.UM, WE DO HAVE SOME RENDERINGS OF WHAT THAT CONCEPT COULD LOOK LIKE WITH A REDEVELOPING STREETSCAPE EXPERIENCE.
UM, THIS IS A REDEVELOPED CLARA BARTON STREETSCAPE.
UM, YOU HAVE PARKWAY LANDSCAPE DESIGN WITH BENCHES AND KIND OF TRAIL, TRAIL SIZE SIDEWALK ACCESSIBILITY THAT BRINGS THAT CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE AREA, UH, A ROUNDABOUT PROPOSED, UM, DISCONNECTORS BETWEEN MARIE CURIE AND WALTER REED.
I'M GONNA KEEP SCROLLING THROUGH THE STREETSCAPE AND GET TO SOME OF THE OTHER DESIGN IMAGES.
UM, YOU HAVE SOME PROPOSED UNIFIED SIGNAGE STANDARDS, UM, TO MAKE WAYFINDING, UM, THROUGH THE MEDICAL AREA, UH, SEAMLESS AND UNIFIED.
YOU HAVE PARK DESIGN PROPOSALS WITH THE VOLORIS PARK, THE HEALING GARDEN, AND THE WELLNESS PARK PUBLIC PLAZA, UH, PROPOSED THROUGH THIS PLAN WITH AWNINGS, KIND OF ACTIVATION OF PEDESTRIAN SEATING, LIGHT, OF COURSE, THE LIGHTING PLAN, WALKING TRAIL CONNECTIVITY BACK BEHIND, UM, THE WELLNESS PARK AND PUBLIC PLAZA AND SOME IMAGERY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND AGAIN, THOSE, UH, CONCEPTS, UH, WILL ULTIMATELY DEPEND ON, UH, THE VA COMPLETING THEIR DESIGN AND, AND COMPLETING KIND OF THE FUTURE OF WHAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT WILL LOOK LIKE BEFORE, UM, WE CAN HAVE A, UH, A CERTAINTY ON THOSE PROJECTS.
AND THEN, UM, THEY HAVE SOME DESIGNS FOR SOME ENTRY MONUMENTS.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION HERE.
ALL THESE DESIGNS, UH PLANS, WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY'RE ALL CONTINGENT ON THE FUTURE VIABILITY OF THE VA HOSPITAL.
SO THE 2023 DESIGN PLAN KIND OF CARRIED FORWARD THE IDEAS ORIGINALLY IDENTIFIED IN 21, UM, AND HOPEFULLY IF, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S SUCCESSFUL IN DISCUSSIONS WITH PARKLAND, OTHER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS IN THAT AREA, UM, SOME OF THESE STREETSCAPE PROJECTS COULD BECOME VIABLE.
UM, WE'D WANT TO, OF COURSE, MAKE SURE THOSE ALIGN WITH THE NEEDS OF, WHETHER IT'S PARKLAND, A, A THIRD PARTY OPERATOR, OTHER PRIVATE DEVELOPERS THAT APPROACH THIS AREA IN THE FUTURE, THAT IT WOULD ALIGN WITH WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING OR THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR THEIR FACILITY.
UM, OF COURSE, THAT THEY AGREE WITH THE STANDARDS SET IN THESE, UH, DESIGN MASTER PLAN, UM, AND THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTING STREETSCAPING OR ROADS THAT WON'T FIT THEIR TRAFFIC PATTERNS OR THE WAY THEY NEED TO USE, UM, THE STREETS IN THAT AREA.
BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE TO CARRY FORWARD THESE CONCEPTS INTO THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
UM, UNDERSTANDING VA HOSPITAL CONTINUES.
IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WHAT'S PLAN B? AS FAR AS THE VA NOT CONTINUING, I THINK THE VA'S GONNA BE THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
IT'S JUST HOW FAST ARE THEY GONNA EXPAND? AND LOOKING AT THE VA, I'M LOOKING AT THE DIRECTORY NOW ON THE QUESTION AS TO WHAT THEY HAVE.
SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE OFFERING JUST PRIMARY AND PREVENTATIVE CARE.
AS FAR AS SPECIALTY SERVICES, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, WOMEN'S VETERAN CARE, WHICH IS MORE ON MATERNITY CARE, MAMMOGRAMS, UH, DENTAL OR - AND ORAL SURGERY, DERMATOLOGY, NUTRITIONAL CARE, AND A RADIOLOGY, AND THEN A MENTAL HEALTH CARE, UH, CLINIC AS MOST VAS DO.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T, UH, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY ISSUES WITH THE VA CURRENT AS, AS IT'S CURRENTLY IS.
IT'S JUST THEM GETTING THE FUNDING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE SERVICES.
I GUESS IT'S, IT'S FROM A POLITICAL STANDPOINT THAT IT'S RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, EVEN THE VA, THE SACRED VA
SO THE, UH, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT PLAN B, BUT, UH, WHAT, WHATEVER REASON GOES AWAY, UH, THEN WHAT? IF THE VA GOES AWAY, WELL, THERE IS NOT A PLAN B FOR THE VA HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW.
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT - YEAH.
I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHY, WHY THIS PLAN'S INTERESTING IS BECAUSE THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WHERE THE TIF AND WHERE THE CITY CAN ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE TO HELP GET
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PARKLAND AND THE VA GOING, IS HELPING WITH THE SITES AROUND IT.WELL, IF THE VA DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE'RE GONNA BE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO SEE WHAT CAN GO TO THAT SITE.
BUT, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S A VERY AGED FACILITY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THIS POINT.
THAT'S TOO - THAT LEADS ME TO A POINT THAT THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE FIRST HOSPITAL THE VA HAS TAKEN OVER, OKAY? MM-HMM.
SO THEY DON'T, THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THEY'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.
AND THAT'S HUGE AND THAT'S RESTRICTIVE BECAUSE IF YOU BUILD IT THE WAY YOU WANT IT, IT MAY COST YOU A LITTLE MORE TO GET GOING, BUT YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT.
THEY'RE HAVING TO RETROFIT THIS ENTIRE OPERATION.
AND IT'S UNCHARTERED TERRITORY FOR THEM.
IT'S, THEY'RE LITERALLY BLAZING SOMETHING THEY'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.
BUT THEIR PRICE TO GET THIS FROM BAYLOR SCOTT & WHITE WAS RIGHT.
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
THEY'VE ALREADY REORGANIZED OFFICES THERE AT LEAST ONCE.
THE, THE ONLY TIMELINE WE HAVE ON THE VA RIGHT NOW IS, IS THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY'VE GOT FUNDING FOR A DESIGN FOR THEIR, UH, EMERGENCY POWER SOURCE.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, BY, SO BY 2027 TO GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT THEIR NEXT STEPS ARE.
BUT THAT IS THE, THE FIRST SHOE THAT'S HAD TO DROP FOR THEM BECAUSE WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING.
WE, UH, ALLISON TALKED ABOUT THE, THE HILLING GARDEN AND ALL THE OTHER PROPERTY THEY OWN BACK THERE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SIGN ANY AGREEMENTS OR, OR CONFRONT US WITH ANY SHARED COOPERATIVE, UH, GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITY UNTIL THEY HAVE THAT DONE.
COULD, UM, THE DELAYS WITH THE VA AFFECT ANYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN WITH PARKLAND? OR THAT REALLY COULD BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
WE COULD HAVE A PATH FORWARD WITH SOME THINGS.
WE'RE TAKING THEM AS DIFFERENT TRACKS.
SO, UH, THE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING WITH PARKLAND, THE VA HASN'T EVEN COME UP OTHER THAN ANECDOTAL VA'S THERE.
AND WE ARE ALSO IN DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER, UH, MEDICAL PARTNERS AS WELL.
UH, YOU DO KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO MEDICAL OFFICE SPACES THERE.
SO OUT OF REALLY ALL THE SITES, I MEAN, EVEN SOUTH GARLAND'S NOT THIS COMPLICATED.
THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED SITE, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS STREETSCAPING PLAN DONE IS BECAUSE YOU HEARD ALLISON SAY THERE'S 50 DIFFERENT OWNERS.
ONE OF THEM'S A VA WHO'S RUN BY A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHO IS INSIDE OF A HOSPITAL THAT THEY'VE NEV - AS, AS THE CHAIR SAID THAT THEY'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.
YOU HAVE PARKLAND INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS.
YOU HAVE THE CITY INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSIONS.
IF YOU JUST LOOK ACROSS THOSE PARKING LOTS THERE, THERE IS TONS OF PRIVATE PROPERTY WITH CRACKED PARKING LOTS.
THEN YOU GOTTA THROW IN DART INTO THIS EQUATION AT SOME POINT BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE BUS ACCESS AT SOME POINT.
SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENTS MOVE SLOW AND WHEN YOU HAVE FOUR OF THEM ALL IN ONE LITTLE SITE,
BUT IT DOES FEEL LIKE IF THE...
I MEAN, WITH THE VA, IF THEY ACTUALLY DO GET A PROPOSAL TO BASICALLY SAY, "WELL, THIS IS OUR, UH, ELECTRIC SUPERSTRUCTURE." WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING WHEN THAT...
IF THAT IS OUT AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY, "HEY, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD.
WE'RE GONNA BREAK GROUND WITH IT.
ARE YOU GONNA BE INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING ELSE?" AND THE CITY GETS INVOLVED AND THEN LIKE EVENTUALLY THEY SAY, "WE GOT A PLAN, WE GOT SOMEWHERE TO GO," THEN PROBABLY THE VA'S GONNA DO THE NEXT PART.
THEY'VE PROBABLY GOT EXPENSES THAT ARE OUTLAYED FOR THE FUTURE.
SO WHILE IT MAY TAKE A LONG TIME, IT MAY BE EIGHT, NINE OR 10 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, THAT'S ALL IN THE WORKS.
IF THEY PUT THE ELECTRIC SIDE IN, THEN THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA DO THE REST OF IT, I WOULD ASSUME.
SOMETHING WE ALWAYS SAY IS HOW YOU EAT AN ELEPHANT IS ONE BITE AT A TIME.
THIS IS GONNA BE VERY MUCH PHASED.
IT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST, THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY THAT COMES ACROSS US THAT WE'RE READY TO GO.
IF IT'S VA, IF IT'S PARKLAND, IF IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE BACK TO Y'ALL WITH THAT PROPOSAL IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS IF, IF, IF THE TIF HAS A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY A- AND START TAKING ACTIONS ON THAT.
BUT, UH, WHY THE STREETSCAPING WAS PUT TOGETHER IS BECAUSE THAT IS, THAT'S THE BREAD AND BUTTER OF THE CITY.
THAT'S WHAT WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY IN DOING.
ONE THING I WILL SAY IN THAT AREA WHERE MICRICANA USED TO BE, THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH WHERE IT SAYS VOLORIS HEALTH PARK RIGHT THERE.
THAT BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WALNUT HAS...
IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN BY THERE, IT'S PHENOMENAL WHAT THEY DID WITH THAT LITTLE STRIP CENTER.
THE BIGGEST EYESORE, IRONICALLY, STRAIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, METRICANA MOVED IN THERE - UH-HUH.
AND THAT LANDLORD - STRIP MALL THERE.
JUST, HE OWNS IT AND HE'S GONNA MAKE
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HIS MONEY AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.SO IT, IT, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT PORTION COMES ALONG BECAUSE THAT FAMILY DOLLAR, ALL THAT IS JUST RIPE FOR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S GONNA BE MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.
THERE'S CARROTS AND STICKS THAT WE NOW HAVE AT OUR, UH, DISPOSAL.
THE CARROTS ARE IS, THERE'S A, WE GOT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOND PACKAGE.
WE WILL HAVE FACADE IMPROVEMENTS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE WILLING TO, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO TAKE IT.
AND THEN THE STICK IS CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH THE CIVIL CITATION PROGRAM.
UM, MANY OF THOSE, UH, FACILITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE VIOLATING CURRENT CODE AND WE'LL START SEEING TICKETS.
I'M SURPRISED WE'RE AS FAR AS LONG AS WE ARE ON SOME OF THIS.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE'RE AT THE POINT TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTRIC.
EVEN DURING OUR FIRST MEETING, I THINK THAT'S PROPOSED TO THE NORTH, RIGHT IN JUST SOMEWHERE TO THE LEFT, RIGHT UP FROM WHERE YOU ARE.
IT, IT'S, AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE BIGGEST DISCUSSION IS WHEN AND WHERE.
SO HEARING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE BECAUSE WHENEVER WE SAT IN OUR FIRST MEETING, THAT WAS LITERALLY WE'RE WAITING, WE'RE WAITING, WE'RE WAITING.
AND NOW WE'RE HEARING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TALK AND WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN.
SO THAT'S - AND FROM JUST - THAT'S A HUGE BITE.
AND THEN JUST FROM A YEAR AGO WE HAVE RELATIONSHIP, WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH PARKLAND NOW, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE THEN.
WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH DART NOW, WHICH HAS JUST BEEN A COMPLETE 360 WHERE IT WAS LAST YEAR.
AND THE VA IS MOVING SLOW, BUT THEY ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS.
NO, BUT YEAH, LIKE IF THAT, IF THEY, THEY GET SET AS LIKE, WE'RE DEFINITELY DOING THIS ELECTRIC, WE'RE SET, WE'RE ON BOARD, YOU'RE ON BOARD, THAT STARTS GOING AHEAD.
YOU KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE OUTLAYS IN THE FUTURE FOR EXPANSION AND GROWTH.
AND EVEN IF THERE IS CUTBACKS, LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE WAY OUT.
I MEAN, YOU'D HAVE CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS LIKE CUTTINGS BACK FOR VA HOSPITALS.
I MEAN, THIS COULD STILL BE FUNDED AND THEN IT'D BE BUILT AND THEN BY THE TIME THAT HAPPENS MAYBE NINE OR 10 YEARS, THEN THEY COULD CUT IT OFF.
BASICALLY ALLS I KNOW IS IF THE VA HOSPITAL FAILS, PARKLAND MORE THAN LIKELY WON'T BE AT THAT SITE.
WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY CROSSED THAT BRIDGE.
THE COST OF THAT FACILITY JUST WAS WAY OUT OF THEIR BELLYWAY.
ONE OF THE REASONS I AM ASKING IS THERE'S A LOT OF MY FRIENDS, VA PATIENTS, THEY'RE TIRED OF I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE.
YEAH, WELL WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS AND UH, YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY VETERANS WE HAVE IN THE AREA IN GARLAND.
OH THERE USED TO BE, YEAH THERE USED TO BE A MAP.
WITHIN 20 MILES WAS THE AMOUNT.
AND THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE INCEPTED.
THAT'S NOT WHO'S MOVED HERE AND IT'S - SO THIS IS ANOTHER AUDIENCE SPECIAL AUDIENCE THAT KEEPS WONDERING OKAY WE HEARD ABOUT THIS FIVE YEARS AGO, SIX YEARS AGO.
AND UH, WELL, THEY KNOW ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT HERE AND THERE, THIS AND THAT BUT YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE HOSPITAL.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY CLOSE TO THEIR CHEST WHICH I, I UNDERSTAND WHY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T OVEREXTEND VERY COMPLEX.
IT'S A WING OF THE GOVERNMENT AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY, THEY LIKE NOTHING MORE THAN SECRETS.
IS THERE A UH, WANNA CONTACT ON THIS? I MEAN COLIN WAS VERY IN AT THE BEGINNING BUT WITH THE TURNOVER.
AS FAR AS IN THE CONGRESS, NO.
I THINK NOW THAT IT'S KIND OF IN THE FOLD, IT'S JUST DEALING WITH THE INDIVIDUALS AT THE VA HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW.
IT ALWAYS HELPS SOMEBODY HELP SOMEBODY.
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T MAKE THOSE CALLS DOWN THE ROAD.
SURPRISED A PHONE CALL, WHAT A DIFFERENCE IT MAKES.
ANYTHING ELSE ON OPPORTUNITIES? I'LL REMIND THE BOARD UM, THAT IN THE MOST RECENT PROJECT AND EXPENDITURE PLAN FOR THE UH, MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA, UM, THE ON - THE, ALL THE PROJECT COSTS ARE IDENTIFIED IN THAT PLAN WERE SPECIFIC TO THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS AREA.
SO THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT THE FUNDS ARE EARMARKED IN OUR CURRENT PROJECT PLAN UM, SUPPORTED BY THE CONCEPTS IN THESE TWO MASTER PLAN AND DESIGN PLANS.
SO UM, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLOSE THE
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LOOP.THAT'S WHERE WE'VE PROGRAMMED OUR FUTURE SELVES TO SPEND.
AND OF COURSE WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY IF AN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF TO CONTRIBUTE IN OTHER WAYS BUT JUST WANTED TO TIE IT BACK TO WHEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND THINKING ABOUT THE WAY THE TIF CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS AREA.
IT'S THROUGH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN IN THIS PLAN.
AND I'LL ALSO SAY, I MEAN, ALISON MAY HAVE MEN - MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS LATER BUT JUST UH, IF, IF AN OPPORTUNITY COMES A- ABOUT AS A BOARD, UH, Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO MEET OFF CYCLE ON, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE QUARTERLY TYPICAL MEETINGS BUT IF AN OPPORTUNITY FALLS IN OUR LAP AND WE GET SOMETHING BUTTONED UP, WE MAY HAVE TO REACH OUT TO Y'ALL AND HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED A LITTLE EARLIER JUST TO GET IT.
I KNOW THE MAJORITY OF US THAT WERE HERE BEFORE SAID - JUST MENTIONING IT AGAIN.
NO, IT'S, I DON'T THINK - MEMBERS JUST MAKE SURE.
I, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE WILL - BECAUSE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE IN THE HOPPER.
SO HOW ABOUT WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 3D? YES.
EXPLANATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND FROM THE TIF.
THIS WAS REQUESTED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING JUST TO RECEIVE SOME MORE INFORMATION UH, REGARDING THIS LINE ITEM IN THE UH, F27 BUDGET AND THE OVERALL PROJECT AND EXPENDITURE PLAN.
UM, SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR WAS $355,773 AND THAT'S A CALCULATION TO RECAPTURE 5% OR ROUGHLY 100 HOURS OF STAFF TIME ASSOCIATED WITH ADMINISTERING THE TIF PLAN.
I'VE LISTED THE INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS THAT ARE TYPICALLY INVOLVED IN UH, THE STAFF HOURS REVIEW, THE PROJECTS INVOLVED THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE TIF, THE ACTUAL ADMINISTRATION OF THE PROJECT AND EXPENDITURE PLAN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THE FORECASTING, UM, AND OF COURSE THE LEGAL REVIEWS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS.
UM, AND I'VE ALSO LISTED THE UH, AREA OF THE TAX CODE UM, THAT OUTLINES UM, THE ALLOWANCE FOR THESE TYPES OF EXPENDITURES TO RE - BE REIMBURSED UM, THROUGH THE TIF.
SO, UM, I WON'T READ WORD FOR WORD, BUT I'LL HAVE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, THIS IS A TYPICAL THING THAT CITIES DO.
WE TALK ABOUT TIME SHEETS, UH, PROJECTS OF SOMEBODY'S - YEAH, YOU'RE BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE HOURS SPENT BY STAFF OF WORKING ON THIS, BUT ALSO THERE'S UH, THERE, THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL COSTS.
I MEAN FOR INSTANCE, SOFTWARE ASSOCIATED WITH RUNNING THE FINANCIALS AND THE ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS, THERE, DOWN THE ROAD THERE COULD BE ENGINEER COSTS FOR ENGINEERS TO INSPECT IF, ONCE WE GET INTO A PROJECT AND TAKING CARE OF THAT.
SO IT'S JUST UH, IN, IN, IN GOVERNMENT TYPICALLY OTHER FUNDS PAY WHAT WE CALL GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES FOR THE SUPPORT STAFF THAT HELPS EV- EVERYONE ELSE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE ELECTRIC UTILITY, THEY, THEY RELY ON CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THEY RELY ON THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THEY RELY ON HR, SO THEY PAY THEIR PORTION.
SO THIS IS JUST A SIMILAR APPROACH.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WAS QUESTIONING IT.
THEY JUST WANTED TO BREAK DOWN OF WHAT IT WENT TO.
SO PART OF WHAT YOU CONSIDER ARE ACTUAL POSITIONS OF PEOPLE THAT YOU NEED FOR THESE PROJECTS.
IS THAT WHAT THIS IS? RIGHT NOW THIS IS MOSTLY JUST THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.
FOR INSTANCE, US WORKING ON GETTING THE NUMBERS, TAKING CARE OF ALL THE UH, FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS THAT TAKE PLACE, WORKING WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS, PROJECT PLANS AND TAKING CARE OF THOSE.
SO THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT IT IS, JUST ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT.
THIS COULD CHANGE OVER TIME BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE ZONE, THE STAFF NEEDING TO BE INVOLVED IN ADMINISTERING THE PLAN, WORKING ON THE PROJECTS WITHIN THAT.
UM, SO, AND THIS IS A LINE ITEM THAT CAN BE PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED WITH THE BOARD ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
WE UH, MAKE A PRACTICE TO BRING THE BUDGET UM, TO THIS BOARD BEFORE COUNCIL FORMALIZATION ANNUALLY.
IN THE BINDER IS ALSO THE FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT PAGE, IT'S JUST IN THE YEARS OF THE TIF, THAT'S A DROP IN THE HAT TO WHAT WE HOPE TO DO.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY JUST REIMBURSING THE CITY FOR THEIR
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TIME, FOR ATTORNEYS, FOR WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DRAFTED, FOR TALKING TO PARKLAND, FOR, BECAUSE THOSE DON'T TAKE PLACE ALWAYS DURING BUSINESS HOURS AND ALWAYS WHENEVER WE THINK THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY POP UP LIKE WE MAY HAVE TO, SO.AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I KNOW THIS IS YOUR FIRST MEETING AS YOU REVIEW THE, THAT PLAN, JUST WE'RE HAPPY TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH YOU AND THAT SAME FOR YOU.
YEAH, Y'ALL ARE LUCKY TO BE SITTING ON THE MOST FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL TIF THAT WE HAVE, SO.
I WAS ON THE I30 TIF WHENEVER IT STARTED AND WE HAD A MEETING AND WE HAD ANOTHER MEETING AND WE SAT - IT'S BACK IN ACTION NOW.
BUT THIS ONE HAS STARTED ROLLING A LOT QUICKER AND I THINK WE'LL DO A LOT MORE, A LOT FASTER THAN DOWNTOWN DID WHENEVER IT STARTS ROLLING.
WE'RE, WE'RE LITERALLY JUST SITTING RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THIS ONE TAKING OFF.
UM, I, I SAID IT EARLIER AND I CAN'T TELL YOU THE ONE THING WE HEARD WAS THE ELECTRICAL PLAN AND SITTING HERE HEARING THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THIS QUARTER IS HUGE.
UM, HEARING THAT PARKLAND AND DART ARE TALKING TO US.
I, I'VE SAT HERE COUNTLESS TIMES AND HEARD DART'S THERE.
HAVING THEM SAY WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE COMING TO YOU NOW IS HUGE.
UM, HAVING PARKLAND WILLING TO TALK, THAT WAS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER, IF PARKLAND WILL TALK TO US, NOW WE'RE TALKING.
AND I, I'VE BEEN ON THIS SINCE ITS INCEPTION AND THOSE THREE THINGS ARE JUST HUGE.
SO I, I HOPE THAT THIS IS FIXING TO START DOING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE SITTING HERE EVERY TWO MONTHS IF NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING, BUT THAT'S JUST ME BECAUSE THIS AREA AND GARLAND NEEDS IT.
AND YOU GOT HOLFORD WHOSE DESIGN IS ALMOST DONE.
IT'S GOING TO BE BREAKING GROUND VERY SOON.
SO WE SHOULD BE HAVING SOME ACTIVITY HOPEFULLY SOON.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. REAL QUICK.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? THE ONLY ITEM I HAD THAT WE'D PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WAS, UM, GOING OVER UPDATES TO THE TIF THREE FINANCIAL MODEL AND PROJECT AND EXPENDITURE PLAN.
UM, AND OF COURSE WE'LL BE TIMING THAT BASED ON DISCUSSIONS, OPPORTUNITIES.
IF SOMETHING PUSHES THAT TIMELINE UP, WE'LL ACCELERATE BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU.
BUT, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST START THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THAT JUST BASED ON THE TAXABLE VALUE THAT WE'VE REALIZED IN OUR CERTIFIED, UM, VALUES FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS AND JUST CLEANING UP SOME OF THE, UM, PROJECTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY ORIGINATED IN THE LAST PROJECT PLAN THAT HAVE EVOLVED, UM, PARTICULARLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOLFORD SITE, UM, TO CAPTURE THE, WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE ACTUAL ACTIVITY AND INVESTMENT UP THERE.
UM, SO WE'LL WORK ON UPDATING THAT DOCUMENT, BRING UPDATES TO THE BOARD AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, IT WILL ALIGN TO CAPTURE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS WE GO ALONG THE WAY.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JUST WE HAVE, UH, WE HAD PENCILED DECEMBER 10TH FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AND I'LL TURN THE FLOOR BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR AND THE REST OF YOU TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER - I THINK DECEMBER 10TH ONLY WORKED BECAUSE THE ROOM WAS TAKEN FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO WE- WE KIND OF GOT STUCK ON THAT.
WE, WE KIND OF WERE STUCK THERE.
SO IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT, SORRY.
WE'LL, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ON THAT MEETING, DATA CENTERS.
WHERE ARE WE ON THE BUILD OUT IN THE NORTH ZONE? UM, I THINK THERE'S, IS IT FOUR UP THERE? THERE'S THREE UP THERE.
SO WHERE WE'RE AT ON THOSE THREE AT THAT POINT.
UM, WHAT ELSE? I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE ROOM.
I'LL SAY WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AND WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A SIDE THAT'S BIG ENOUGH.
THEY TYPICALLY NEED 20 PLUS ACRES.
IF WE CAN GET ANY INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE STATE, THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT FURTHER REDUCING OR ELIMINATING PROPERTY TAXES.
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IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE ON MODELS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH UP TO NOW? THAT'LL BE A GREAT ONE RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION.TOPIC BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE CHA - IT'S GONNA CHANGE.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GET MONEY FROM? THANKS FOR THE REMINDER, TOM.
THE STATE PULLS FROM EVERYONE ON EVERY LITTLE THING.
LIKE YOUR CITATION, BASICALLY 60, 70% OF THAT'S GOING TO THE STATE AND IF YOU GET PULLED OVER.
AND THEN AT THE, AND THERE'S SO MANY LITTLE AREAS WHERE THE STATE PULLS MONEY FROM AND YET IT COMPLAINS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE TRYING TO MEET THEIR OWN BUDGETS AND ACTUALLY PAY FOR BASIC SERVICES.
SO YEAH, IT'S THE BIGGEST ROBBER IN THE ROOM.
Y'ALL AREN'T DOING ENOUGH, BUT YOU'RE DOING TOO MUCH.
RIGHT ON ANIMAL FARM, YOU'RE ALL EQUAL.
SO MOST OF THEM ARE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE HAVE JUST ONGOING DISCUSSION.
THIS IS NOT RELATED TO ANY OF THAT AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO BRING FORWARD.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE SOUTH GARLAND AREA, RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF OUR TIF, THERE'S GREAT THINGS HAPPENING DOWN AT CENTERVILLE AND 635.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE JOE V'S THAT'S COMING IN THERE.
UM, PLANNING AND ZONING JUST APPROVED MOVING THE WATER IN AND ICE OVER.
AND I THINK, HAS CITY COUNCIL HEARD THAT YET? YES.
THAT A HUGE DISCUSSION BECAUSE I, I GAVE THEM THE LONGER SUP.
I GOTTA GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY APPROVED, BUT, UM, THAT CHASE BANK IS GETTING - I'LL GO WATCH THE VIDEO.
I, I HAD A DAUGHTER IN TOWN, SO, UM, THE CHASE BANK COULD BE GETTING OVERHAULED.
UM, THEY HAVE POSSIBLY SELLING THE LOT THAT THE WATER IN IS ON NOW.
THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF GROWTH FIXING TO START SOUTH.
AND ALL OF OUR TIF ZONE THAT WE BROUGHT IN IS JUST GONNA BE MAGNIFIED BY THAT BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY RAW LAND.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE HUGE.
AND I, I'VE GOTTEN KICKED BACK BECAUSE I HAVE, WE HAVEN'T SAID ENOUGH ABOUT SOUTH, BUT WE'RE A PENDULUM.
WE STARTED IN THE MIDDLE, WE'VE SWUNG THIS WAY, AND IT'S SLOWLY SWINGING BACK THIS WAY.
AND IT, IT'S GONNA BE HUGE FOR ALL THREE OF OUR AREAS.
AND SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED IS SIX, WITH SIX, 635'S DONE.
SO, UH, UH - WE DID MENTION THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING AWAY WITH THE BATCH PLANT.
I'M, I'M, AND WITH THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES THAT WE HAVE DOWN THERE AND THE LAND AND THIS COMMUNICATION THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH DART, I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I KNOW THOSE DON'T OPEN UNTIL THE 1ST, BUT AT THAT MEETING, IF YOU HAPPEN TO HEAR OF ANYBODY OR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY - WE'RE NOT WAITING ON THE 1ST.
WE DON'T WANNA KNOW, JUST REMIND US THAT WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THEM NOW BECAUSE CAPITAL GAINS ARE HUGE.
I LOOK FOR A WAY TO GO AWAY WITH THEM AS MUCH AS I CAN, SO.
ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS NOW THAT I DERAILED US?
WELL, HOW ABOUT AT 7:19? WE CALL OURSELF ADJOURNED.