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GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE.
I AM CARISSA AND I HAVE WITH ME JUSTIN CARAWAY, UM, AS WELL AS MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF STAFF.
UM, OUR FIRST ITEM UP ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
UM, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 27TH, 2026 MEETING MINUTES.
JUSTIN, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE? YES, I HAVE.
CAN I GET A MOTION? YOU MAKE A, A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS FANTASTIC.
UM, ITEM TWO IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, JENNIFER, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS MORNING? NO, WE DO NOT.
AND ITEM THREE, ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UM, THREE A IS THE LAKE RAY HUBBARD SHORELINE.
WE ARE GOING TO TABLE THIS ONE UNTIL MR. MOORE CAN, UH, BE IN ATTENDANCE.
SO THAT BRINGS US TO THREE B, THE NATIVE LAWN PROGRAM IN, I BELIEVE THIS ONE IS MR. ANGIE HESSER.
UM, I DID NOT COME WITH A PRESENTATION TODAY.
I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, AFTER REVIEWING THE, THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU PRODUCED, UM, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF MAYBE FURTHER, FURTHER SCOPE AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, SO I HAVE A, A, A REQUEST, UM, POSSIBLY TO CONSIDER GIVING US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, UM, IN LIGHT OF STAFFING SHORTAGES AT CODE AT THE MOMENT.
UM, SO I JUST, IN ORDER TO HELP KIND OF PUT SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT, I I, IN REVIEWING THE PROGRAM, I THINK ON, ITS ON ITS SURFACE.
UH, I UNDERSTAND IT AND IT MAKES SENSE TO UTILIZE, UM, BLESS YOU.
UM, TO, UH, FURTHER, UH, GET SOME CONTEXT ON, ON KIND OF THE EXPECTATIONS.
BUT I THINK, LIKE ON THE SURFACE, I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE VOLUNTEER BASED THAT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS WHO IS, WHO IS QUALIFIED TO REVIEW, UH, A PLAN AND DETERMINE WHATEVER THE ULTIMATE FORMAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, THAT CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE.
CURRENTLY, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN AS A REMINDER, IT HAS, UH, THERE ARE UNMANAGED VEGETATION, UH, ORDINANCES, UH, AND THE EXEMPTIONS.
THOSE LIVE IN THE WEEDS CATEGORY OF THE ORDINANCE IN 32 52, I BELIEVE.
AND THE EXEMPTIONS ARE RELATED TO, UH, AG CROPS.
AND THEN THIS PARTICULAR ONE THAT APPLIES IS WHETHER IT HAS HISTORIC OR SCIENTIFIC, UH, SIGNIFICANCE TO IT.
UM, THOSE AREN'T PARTICULARLY DEFINED, BUT THERE ARE, THOSE ARE MEANT TO BE VERY STRINGENT EXEMPTIONS.
A MATTER OF FACT, I'M ONLY AWARE OF ONE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, UH, WE WANNA REVIEW THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ADEQUATE.
AND HOW ARE WE GONNA DETERMINE THAT, THAT ALSO, THAT EXEMPTION REQUIRES A MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THEY CAN'T JUST, THEY CAN'T JUST SAY, YEP, I'M, WE GRANT THE EXEMPTION AND THEN LET IT GO.
THEY HAVE TO CREATE A, UH, A MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH TYPICALLY WOULD INVOLVE, WHICH REALLY MIRRORS A LOT.
WHAT'S IN THIS PROPOSAL IS YOU CAN'T, UH, YOU'RE NOT EXEMPT FOR ALLOWING, UH, SITE TRIANGLES TO BECOME OVERGROWN FOR SAFETY REASONS.
YOU CAN'T ALLOW IT TO HARBOR RODENTS.
YOU CAN'T ALLOW IT TO ENCROACH IN THE PARKWAYS IN THE RIGHT OF WAYS, IN A VARIETY OF THINGS.
SO WITH THAT, UH, I THINK WE WANT TO KEEP THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THAT.
UM, SO MY REQUEST IS, IS IF ONCE WE COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS TO REALLY FLESH THIS OUT, WHEN WE KIND OF GET FULLY STAFFED, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME STAFF IMPACTS, AND I DON'T WANNA GLOSS OVER THAT, UM, TREAT THIS AS A PILOT PROGRAM, AND I'LL, I'LL GET TO THAT PART WHERE WE'VE GOT A CERTIFICATION PROCESS THAT'S PROPOSED.
UH, WE WOULD NEED TO CREATE THE APPLICATION, UH, THAT'S THE CHECKLIST, WHETHER THAT BE WITH VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE EXPERTS IN, IN THE NATIVE PLANT, UH, CATEGORIES, UM, AND GENERATING A, A, A PROCESS WITH OUR, UH, SALESFORCE DATABASE, UM, SIGN CONTENT.
THOSE ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE CREATED.
UH, I, I NOTICE ON HERE THE PROPOSAL HAS NO FEE FOR THIS PROGRAM.
UH, HOW DOES THE COST FOR THE SIGNAGE GET COVERED? THINGS LIKE THAT ARE GONNA NEED TO BE REALLY FLESHED OUT.
UM, AND THEN I, I BELIEVE I UNDERSTAND THIS TO BE LARGELY COMPLAINT DRIVEN, RATHER.
SO IF THEY ARE CERTIFIED, THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, CORRECT? HMM.
THEN, THEN THEY ARE IN THE DATABASE.
SO SHOULD SOMEBODY COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT PROPERTY AND WE GO AND INVESTIGATE IT AND FIND OUT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED THROUGH THE PROGRAM, SATISFIED THE CHECKLIST AND ALL THOSE THINGS, THEN THE ROLE OF CODE WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH
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THEIR MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE CAVEATS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.UM, SO ONE QUESTION I HAVE THAT I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON FOR DISCUSSION IS, UM, PROPOSAL SAYS RECOMMENDED STARTING STANDARD AT LEAST 60% OF DESIGNATED PLANTED LANDSCAPE AREA.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE WOULD BE IN THE QUALIFIED MANAGEMENT, UH, PLANT AREA, THAT, THAT A MINIMUM OF 60% OF THAT DESIGNATED AREA IS CONSIST OF NATIVE PLANT SPECIES APPROPRIATE FOR NORTH TEXAS.
UM, AND THEN THE STAFF WOULD VALIDATE THAT FINAL PERCENTAGE, UH, IN THE PLANT LIST METHODOLOGY BEFORE ADOPTION.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IS SHOULD IT, SHOULD THAT NUMBER BE GREATER THAN 60% NATIVE? YEAH.
I, UM, AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, I DID THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THEN LOOKING AT HOW OTHER CITIES HAVE THEIR STRUCTURED, UM, I, I WOULD PROBABLY LEAN A LITTLE HARDER TOWARDS 80, 90%.
AND THEN I THINK I WOULD NEED SOME GUIDANCE ON, OR PREFERENCE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE, FROM THE EXPERTS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE ALLOW TO BE FILLED IN THAT OTHER PERCENTAGE? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS I PRESENTED IN OUR LAST CONVERSATION IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NATIVE AND THERE'S ADAPTED.
UM, AND SO WHEAT IN THE PARKS WILL TYPICALLY USE NATIVE AND ADAPTED.
SO IT MIGHT MEAN THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT NATIVE TO NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS, BUT IT IS KNOWN TO BE ADAPTED, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE FROM ANOTHER PART OF THE UNITED STATES OR ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE WORLD.
WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT IT NOT BEING ON THE INVASIVE SPECIES LIST, IF SOME CAN BE ADAPTED, BUT BE INVASIVE SUCH AS, UH, PAMPAS GRASS.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE ADEQUATELY DEFINE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT NATIVE OR 90% NATIVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONSULT WITH THOSE THAT ARE THE, YOU KNOW, EXPERTS IN THAT FIELD.
UM, AND THE OTHER CONCERNS I HAD, UM, THAT WE NEED SOME PROBABLY, UM, OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO CHIME IN ON IS THERE IS SOME DIS DIS CONCERN THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED INTERNALLY ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH DENIALS DISPUTES, UH, WHO, WHO IS, WHO APPEALS THE DENIALS OR THE, AND SETTLES THE DISPUTES.
UM, AND THEN HOW DO WE MANAGE AND MAINTAIN CONTROL AND CONSISTENCY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS THAT WE'VE HAD AS WE'VE REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL.
UH, AGAIN, ON THE SURFACE, I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT AND IT MAKES SENSE.
UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS I HAVE.
AND, UM, MIKE, ED AND I, UM, HAD A LUNCH WITH COMMISSIONER DANIELS A FEW WEEKS AGO.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT WAS THEY'VE GOT THAT HUGE, UM, COMMUNITY GARDEN AREA MM-HMM
UM, AND SHE MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE A GROUP OF MASTER GARDENERS THAT COME OUT.
SO I AM, UM, IN CONTACT WITH HER, UM, HER RIGHT HAND WOMAN, UM, TO SEE IF WE CAN, HOW WE CAN BENEFIT FROM THEIR MASTER GARDENERS.
MAYBE THEY CAN HELP US WITH THE PROGRAM, UM, OR EVEN JUST TRAIN SOME VOLUNTEERS, WHATEVER THAT MAY LOOK LIKE.
SO, UM, SO I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY, SO LEMME ASK THIS QUESTION.
DO YOU FORESEE THEN THAT THIS, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CERTIFICATION ON THE FRONT END BE KIND OF A STANDING TEAM OR TASK FORCE OR COMMITTEE? 'CAUSE I, I THINK WE, JUST, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF EXPERTISE THAT WE COULD TAP INTO.
UM, BETWEEN THE MASTER GARDENERS, SPRING CREEK, UH, PRESERVE FOLKS, UM, DAVID PARISH IN PARTICULAR ON THE PARK BOARD, AND MAYBE THE PARK BOARD HAS A ROLLER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS THAT IF THAT'S A STANDING COMMITTEE THAT HAS A REGULAR RHYTHM OF HOW THEY MEET, I THINK FINDING THOSE EXPERTS AND THEN LETTING THEM PARTICIPATE IN THE PARAMETERS.
NO, I THINK THATS A, A GOOD IDEA WOULD HELP OUR STAFF IMMENSELY.
NO, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND BY NO MEANS IS ANYTHING ON THAT, UM, PAPER, UM, A NON-NEGOTIABLE.
SO DON'T FEEL LIKE, UM, YOU'LL HURT MY FEELINGS.
IT'S, IT IS A VERY GOOD STARTING POINT.
IT'S JUST THE IMPLEMENTATION OF HOW, HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK AND, AND THE STAFF IMPACTS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE IT TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT MAY NOT, I THINK THAT'S OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT MAY NOT UNDERSTAND.
BECAUSE WE DO GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S APPROVED.
UM, AND, AND IT'S, THAT TAKES SOME TIME TO MANAGE AND COMMUNICATE.
SO I HAD A, I HAD A THOUGHT ON THAT MUCH THE WAY WE DO WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS.
SO WE REQUIRE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL TO NOTIFY THEIR NEIGHBORS.
SO IF THEY UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, MAYBE WE REQUIRE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS ONE OF THOSE LAWNS TO NOTIFY THEIR NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ON OUR SITE ABOUT WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR THAT SITE SO THAT THE, THEY WILL KNOW THAT THEIR NEIGHBORS MIGHT ALSO BE POLICE.
THEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE ORDINANCE.
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GONNA CALL AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, BUT IT ALSO STOP THEM FROM COMPLAINING TO US ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.SO YOU JUST SAY, HEY, YOU WANT TO HAVE A NATIVE LAWN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN THIS REGION BY SENDING 'EM IN A LETTER AND EXPLAINING, HEY, I'M HAVING A NATIVE LAWN, I'VE GOT A PERMIT, AND HERE'S THE STUFF THAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS.
AND THEN THAT MIGHT HELP US A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT THAT I HAD WATCHING
'CAUSE AGAIN, THAT, THAT DOES HELP WITH COMMUNICATING THE CHALLENGES.
AND, AND ONE OTHER THING THAT, THAT BEARS MENTIONING IS, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, THE CHALLENGE WITH NATIVE GRASSES IS, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON'S WEED IS ANOTHER PERSON'S, UM, YOU KNOW, SELECTED PLANT.
BUT THERE ARE THE, THE PLAN IS RE IN THE ORDINANCE AS IT STANDS NOW IS REQUIRED TO BE MAINTAINED.
WELL, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE NATIVE, UH, GARDEN YOU MAY HAVE ALL YOUR SELECTED SPECIES THAT ARE APPROVED.
BERMUDA GRASS IS ONE HECK OF A WEED IN A NATIVE, IN A NATIVE LAWN.
AND SO UNLESS YOU'VE GOT PIECES OF IT, IT, IT CAN BECOME, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATED TO BE MOWED BERMUDA OR WHATEVER, BUT IT CREEPS AND GETS IN PLACES YOU JUST DON'T WANT IT.
SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF DETAILS THAT THE CODE STAFF WILL, WILL LITERALLY, I'M SORRY FOR THE PUN, GET INTO THE WEEDS ON, ON THESE ISSUES AS THEY POP UP.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT.
UM, AND SO I, I THINK IN MY, MY LITTLE BRAIN, UM, WITH THE SIGNAGE ONE I WAS THINKING MAYBE TRANSPORTATION, UM, COULD HELP US WITH THOSE SIGNS.
'CAUSE I KNOW THEY CAN MAKE SOME SIGNS IN-HOUSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, YARD SIGNS IS IN THEIR, UH, SCOPE OF, UM, DOABLE THINGS.
BUT, UM, I WOULD VISION MAYBE LIKE A, A YARD SIGN AT THE, AT THE, TOWARDS THE FRONT, LIKE BY THE SIDEWALK WHERE IF YOU'RE WALKING BY IT'S BOOM THERE AND THEN MAYBE LIKE A QR CODE THAT SOMEONE DRIVING BY THAT'S LIKE, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON? YOU COULD SCAN THAT QR CODE THAT WOULD TAKE YOU TO LIKE OUR SITE THAT EXPLAINS WHAT THE NATIVE LAWN PROGRAM IS, UM, TO KIND OF HELP DETER SOME OF THE, UM, WELL, I LIKE THAT IDEA.
UH, THE ONE THAT IS APPROVED CURRENTLY DOES HAVE A PRETTY NICE SIGN.
UM, BUT I LIKE THE, JUST ANOTHER IDEA.
I LIKE THE QR CODE, NOT ONLY TO EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM, BUT AGAIN, AS THE ORDINANCE EXISTS, IT'S A HISTORIC AND SCIENTIFIC SIGNIFICANCE.
AND SO IF YOU'RE DOING A POLLINATOR TYPE NATIVE GARDEN, YOU CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THE SCIENTIFIC SIGNIFICANCE OF HAVING YEAH.
THESE PLANT MATERIALS ARE BENEFICIAL TO, YOU KNOW, THIS PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, UM, IF WE WERE, IF, IF OUR TEAM WAS ABLE TO DO THE SIGNS, UM, WE WOULDN'T JUST GIVE THEM AWAY.
WE WOULD CHARGE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER TO COVER THAT COST.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK, OR OR WE COULD HAVE AN APPROVED TEMPLATE THAT THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING, I MEAN, YOU COULD DO A, A VERY QUALITY CHLOROPLAST TYPE SIGN RATHER THAN A METAL, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU'RE BUYING OH EIGHT OH, ALUMINUM SIGN BLANKS.
AND IT WOULD BE, GIVEN THE WAY THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY SET UP FOR MASS PRODUCTION, I THINK THAT WE COULD, WE COULD CERTAINLY ORDER SIGN B, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION ON LOCAL CHEAP $10 SIGN, PROBABLY $10 SIGN AND PUT OUT THERE THAT WOULD LAST.
I THINK THAT BOTH MULTIPLYING THE S AND HAVING SOMEPLACE WHERE PEOPLE BE WHEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WHAT IS, WHAT'S GOING ON? IT'S A NATIVE, NATIVE ESCAPE INQUIRED UNDER IT.
AND THEN, UM, SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE, IT'S GONNA STAY ON OUR, IN OUR QUEUE, BUT LET'S GIVE 'EM A FEW MONTHS AND RIGHT.
UM, I THINK AS LONG AS WE, LIKE, LET'S MAKE IT TO MARCH, YOU KNOW, SOUND GOOD.
EASY TO THAT WAY YOU'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT TIME.
AND THEN IF WE CAN HAVE IT READY BY LATE WINTER, THAT GETS PEOPLE READY FOR EARLY SPRING.
IF THEY'RE GONNA PLANT START, THAT'S THE TIME YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FALL PLANT AND A SPRING PLANT TYPICALLY WITH NATIVES.
AND I THINK IF WE, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING KIND OF GOOD BY OUR MARCH MEETING, UM, THEN WE CAN KIND OF LOOSELY START PROMOTING IT, UM, BEFORE THE SUMMER.
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THANK YOU.ALRIGHT, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE C REVIEW, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT FOR THE FALL 2026, UM, APPLICATION CYCLE.
WE'VE GOT LAURA DE VEGA WITH US.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
UM, AS MENTIONED, I'M LAURA DE VEGA, SENIOR PLANNER WITH NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY.
UM, I AM HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR MATCHING GRANT APPLICATIONS FOR FALL OF 2026.
UM, WE HAD TWO APPLICATIONS, ONE FROM CAMELOT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, THE OTHER FROM PROVENCE AT FIRE WHEEL HOA.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA DIVE INTO IT.
UM, CAMELOT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THEY ARE, UM, PROPOSING TO REPLACE THE IRRIGATION THAT IS, UM, CURRENTLY EXISTING ON KING ARTHUR DRIVE MEDIAN BETWEEN JUPITER AND GALAHAD.
UM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE, AGAIN, REPLACE THE EXISTING SYSTEM WITH AN UPDATED SOLAR POWERED IRRIGATION SYSTEM.
UM, WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE HAS EXCEEDED IT.
ITS EXPECTED, USEFUL LIFE, UM, AND IS BROKEN.
UM, TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $14,433 AND 22 CENTS, WITH A REQUESTING AMOUNT OF 13,324 AND 92 CENTS WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD MATCH OF $1,108 AND 30 CENTS.
UM, CAMELOT IS A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, SO ANYTHING, UM, SO, UH, PROJECTS UP TO $10,000 REQUIRES NO MATCH ANYTHING ABOVE $10,000.
UM, THEIR STATED GOALS, UM, CAMELOT, UH, HAS ABOUT 1500 HOMES WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF SHILOH, JUPITER, OR ARAPAHO AND CAMPBELL.
UM, CAMELOT IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO TRULY CARE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY LIVE.
UM, THIS VOLUNTEER, VOLUNTEER GROUP AND ITS SUPPORTING MEMBERSHIP ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY CAN BE PROUD TO CALL HOME.
UM, STATED MAINTENANCE FOR THIS PROJECT, NEIGHBORHOOD VOLUNTEERS WILL HANDLE IRRIGATION ON THE MEDIANS WHEN ANY REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE SERVICES REQUIRED.
UM, CNA WILL PAY FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AS THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
AND SO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S THE MAPS, UM, OF CAMELOT, UM, AS WELL AS THE LOCATION OF THE, UM, IRRIGATION FROM, UM, THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE MEDIAN BETWEEN JUPITER AND GALAHAD.
AND THEN THESE ARE JUST SOME LOVELY SITE PHOTOS OF, UH, OF THE MEDIAN.
SO SOME STAFF COMMENTS ON THE APPLICATION.
UM, SO THIS WOULD, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN MATCHING FUNDS, UM, WITHIN A TI FIVE YEAR TIMEFRAME.
UM, IF APPROVED FOR THIS PROJECT CAM, THIS WOULD BEGIN, UM, A NEW FIVE YEAR CYCLE FOR CAMELOT.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, THEY HAVE, UM, PREVIOUSLY, UM, THEY, THEY'VE COMPLETED PREVIOUS MATCHING GRANT PROJECTS, UH, WITH US, UH, FALL OF 2004.
UM, THEY HAD A SIDEWALKS AND SPRINKLER REPAIR REPLACEMENT WHERE IT WAS REPAIRING, UM, THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, UM, IN THIS MEDIAN.
UM, BEFORE THAT IT WAS, I BELIEVE THE SYSTEM WAS INSTALLED, UM, BY THE DEVELOPER, UM, WHICH WAS MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE THAT.
SO, UM, DEFINITELY AN ANTIQUATED SYSTEM AT THAT POINT.
UM, SO INDUSTRY STANDARDS FOR THE LIFESPAN OF AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS APPROXIMATELY 15 TO 25 YEARS.
NOW, IF WE GO INTO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SYSTEM, LIKE SPRINKLER HEADS, CONTROLLER BOXES, UM, THOSE HAVE A SHORTER, UM, LIFESPAN.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SYSTEM IN 2004 TO BRING US RIGHT, RIGHT AT ABOUT 20 YEARS, WHICH KIND OF FALLS WITHIN THAT REQUIREMENT.
UM, AS MENTIONED, UM, IN, UM, IN
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THE LETTER OF INTENT COMMENT, REPLACING EXISTING ASSETS AND AMENITIES THAT HAVE OUTLIVED THEIR USEFUL LIFE, UM, CAN BE CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE THROUGH THE MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.SO COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL WILL DETERMINE THE ELIGIBILITY OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, ANOTHER NOTE IS THAT THIS, UH, MEDIAN IS, UM, ADJACENT TO A MODERATELY TRAVELED CORRIDOR AS WELL.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH JUPITER AND A LOT OF VISITORS IN THE AREA, UM, TO, TO SEE THIS, UH, THIS MEDIAN.
UM, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, CAMELOT NEIGHBORHOOD IS A VOLUNTARY GROUP WITH NO DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE.
SO ANY ASSISTANCE IN KEEPING AND MAINTAINING THIS MEDIAN IS ALWAYS, UH, APPRECIATED.
UM, IF APPROVED, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MUST PROVIDE, UM, SOME DOCUMENTATION BEFORE THEY CAN RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT.
UM, SO ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS PART OF THEIR COMMENTS.
THEY REQUIRED LICENSE AGREEMENT, REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT AUTHORIZATION, UM, AS, AS WELL AS A RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT.
UM, IN LATER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
UM, SO, UM, THEY'LL NEED, UM, TO PROVIDE WRITTEN VERIFICATION THAT THEY'VE OBTAINED ALL OF THE OTHER DOCUMENTS FROM ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUILDING INSPECTIONS COMMENTED THAT AN IRRIGATION PERMIT, UM, WILL BE NEEDED POTENTIALLY AN ELECTRICAL, UH, PERMIT DEPENDING ON THE, UM, VOLTAGE OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM.
UM, UM, SOLAR, SOLAR SYSTEM,
SO YEAH,
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THEY'LL NEED TO PROVIDE WRITTEN CONFIRMATION, UM, FROM PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT THEY HAVE REVIEWED AND APPROVED THE PLANS AS WELL SINCE THERE'S A WATER USAGE, UM, AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, UM, WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
SO, UM, SO JUST SOME WRITTEN DOCUMENTATIONS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENTS.
UM, AND AGAIN, JUST REITERATING THAT MAINTENANCE OF THE NEW IRRIGATION SYSTEM WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP.
UM, BUT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY STATED IN THE APPLICATION THAT THEY ARE, THEY ARE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAINING ANY NEW ASSETS.
UM, SO FOR THE PROJECT COST STAFF DID INCLUDE, UM, ADD $51 TO ACCOUNT FOR THE REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT AUTHORIZATION, UM, AS WELL AS A 10% CONTINGENCY.
UM, FOR THE CONTRACTOR ESTIMATE, IT NOTED THE POSSIBILITY OF NEEDING TO, UH, TO BORE IN CASE THE EXISTING IRRIGATION SLEEVES, UM, COULDN'T BE UTILIZED.
SO THIS IS JUST CONTINGENCY IN CASE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BE USED AND JUST SO THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP WOULDN'T BE CAUGHT WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS.
UM, AND THEN WORK MAY NOT BEGIN UNTIL THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND A FUNDING AGREEMENT HAS BEEN ASSIGNED.
UM, APOLOGIZE FOR
UM, LAURA ARE HISTORICALLY HAVE WE APPROVED IRRIGATION SYSTEMS? SO HISTORICALLY WE HAVE, UH, APPROVED THEM.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GUIDELINE CHANGES WHERE, UM, WE DID NOT APPROVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, BUT THEN WITH THE MOST RECENT UPDATE TO THE GUIDELINES, WE, IT DOES STATE THAT, AGAIN, AMENITIES AND ASSETS THAT HAVE OUTLIVED THEIR USEFUL LIFE CAN BE CONSIDERED ELIGIBLE THROUGH THE MATCHING GRANT.
SO, UM, SO THAT'S ADDITIONALLY WHY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THIS TO COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF Y'ALL SEE THIS AS AN ELIGIBLE ITEM.
UM, AND THEN DID CAMELOT APPLY FOR ANYTHING LAST YEAR? I BELIEVE SO.
I FEEL LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THEIR SIGN, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN REFERENCE TO SOMEONE ELSE'S SIGN.
UH, THE LEANING TOWER OF CAMELOT
JUSTIN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I AM PERFECTLY FINE.
UM, ALLOWING THE, THE IRRIGATION.
UM, I KNOW LAST YEAR WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT ALLOWING IRRIGATIONS.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, SUCH A DEEP CONVERSATION, BUT IT WAS.
UM, SO YEAH, I'M, I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH IT.
CAMELOT IS A VERY ACTIVE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP AND WE LOVE THAT.
AND SO THEY DO TRULY TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS THEIR COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY RESERVATIONS ABOUT
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APPROVING THIS ONE FOR THEM.UM, MOVING ON TO PROVENCE AT FIRE WHEEL.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING DRAINAGE RESTRUCTURING ALONG 1201 HOWARD LANE.
UM, THERE IS AN AREA BETWEEN 8 0 1 AND 8 0 5 RHYMES DRIVE IN THE COMMON AREA BETWEEN THE HOME AND PONDS.
UM, THAT TENDS TO, UM, GET OVERSATURATED WITH WATER, UM, AFTER, AFTER A RAIN.
AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO MODIFY THE GRADING A BIT AND EXPAND THE EXISTING ROCK LINE, UM, JUST SO THAT THAT AREA ISN'T, UM, IS, CAN BE ENJOYED
UM, SO THEIR STATED GOALS ARE TO FIX THE CITY, CITY STORMWATER RUNOFF AREA AND THE GREEN SPACE, COMMON AREA OF THE HOA.
UM, THEIR STATED MAINTENANCE IN THE APPLICATION SAID THAT NO MAINTENANCE WILL BE REPAIR.
UM, AND SO SOME MAPS, THIS IS A MAP OF PERVAN AT FIRE WHEEL.
UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE THE PROPOSED AREA OF INTERVENTION.
UM, AT THE, IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER OF THAT PICTURE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE EXISTING ROCK IS.
UM, THAT'S AT THE END OF A A FLUME.
UM, AND SO, AND THEN HERE'S AN EXAMPLE PICTURE OF THE PROPOSED INTERVENTION THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO.
UM, THIS IS AN AERIAL FROM GOOGLE MAPS OF, UH, OF THE AREA.
UM, THIS RIGHT HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS, IS THE AREA, UM, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS.
AND THIS IS, YOU CAN SEE A BIT A BIT WHERE, UM, THE WA THE SATURATED WATER IS SEEPING ONTO SIDEWALK, BUT THIS AREA IS JUST SATURATED WITH WATER.
UM, THESE ARE SOME PHOTOS THAT WE'LL KIND OF GO INTO LATER WITH SOME STAFF COMMENTS.
UM, ALL OF THE ACCESS PATHWAYS TO THE POND HAVE THESE, UM, NO TRESPASSING SIGNS.
AND SO SOME STAFF COM UH, STAFF COMMENTS INCLUDE, UM, SO WE HAVE APPROVED OR DRAINAGE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY MATCHING GRANT IN THE PAST.
UM, SO HISTORICALLY THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN, UM, APPROVED.
UM, HARDSCAPING ROCKS IS ELIGIBLE THROUGH A MATCHING GRANT.
UM, JUST A FEW ITEMS OR SPECS WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.
UM, PROPOSED DRAINAGE MODIFICATIONS MUST BE REVIEWED BY ENGINEERING TO CONFIRM COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THERE IS A UTILITY EASEMENT UNDER THAT AREA.
UM, SO THEY'LL NEED TO AGAIN, APPLY FOR A REAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT AUTHORIZATION AS WELL AND JUST WORK WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, STORM WATER LOCAL FLOODING ASSESSMENT THAT WAS CONDUCTED, UM, FOR THIS AREA, UM, IF THE MATCHING GRANT IS APPROVED, UM, THEN, UH, ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, THEY HAVE TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND SO ANY TYPE OF EXISTING SIGN SIGNAGE INFRASTRUCTURE OR POLICIES THAT THAT RESTRICT PUBLIC ACCESS MUST BE REMOVED.
UM, SO THAT, UH, REMOVAL OF THE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS, UM, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THEY BE REMOVED IF THEY WISH TO MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, TO, UH, TO, TO THE COMMON AREA, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING ANY NECESSARY REPAIRS, DEBRIS REMOVAL, AND EROSION CONTROL.
UM, IF THE, IF APPROVED, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MUST PROVIDE WRITTEN VERIFICATION THAT ALL APPLICABLE, UM, AGREEMENTS, PERMITS, DEPARTMENTAL APPROVALS AND SUCH HAVE BEEN RETAINED BEFORE RECEIVING A PERMIT.
AND THEN WORK MAY NOT BEGIN UNTIL THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN APPROVED AND FUNDING AGREEMENT HAS HAS BEEN SIGNED.
SO, AND THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE FOR PANCE.
ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES, CONCERNS? UM, IS THERE, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY PICTURES THAT SHOW WHERE THE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS ARE IN RELATION TO WHERE THE YES, SO, OKAY, SO THERE'S THE, THERE'S THREE ACCESS POINTS TO, UM, TO THE POND AND THERE'S RIGHT HERE AT HOWARD LANE WHERE THE PAVILION IS.
UM, THERE'S AN ACCESS POINT HERE AT HOLDEN COURT, UM, AND THEN AN ACCESS HERE AT RIMES DRIVE.
AND SO THE PICTURES BELOW ARE, UM, SO THIS IS AT THE PAVILION, THE NO TRESPASSING
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SIGN.UM, THIS IS AT RIMES, THE NO TRESPASSING SIGN.
AND THEN THIS ONE IS AT THE OTHER LOCATION, UM,
SO CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, THE OVERHEAD? OKAY.
SO WHERE, UM, SO THIS IS WHERE THE IMPROVEMENT, UM, WOULD BE.
OKAY, SO THIS IS WHERE, SO THERE IS, UM, SO BETWEEN, SORRY, I KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH.
SO BETWEEN, I BELIEVE IT'S THESE, THESE HOMES, THERE'S A, THERE'S FLUME THAT IS, UM, IT'S REALLY FOR SECONDARY.
I SEE THE, I CAN KIND OF TELL WHERE THE ROCKS ARE.
AND SO THEY, THERE'S EXISTING ROCKS HERE, SO THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO EXTEND THE ROCKS ALONG HERE.
UM, JUST BECAUSE WHENEVER THERE'S A HEAVY RAIN THERE TENDS TO BE RIGHT.
AND HOW FAR DOWN DO THOSE THE PROPOSED, UH, DRY CREEK GO? UH, SO THE PROPOSED AREA WOULD GO DOWN HERE AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADD ROCKS IN ADDITION TO, UM, I BELIEVE A DRAIN AS WELL ACCORDING TO THE, UM, TWO 12 INCH DRAIN BASINS TO RECEIVE EXCESS WATER.
THESE DRAINS WILL THEN TIE INTO THE EXISTING DRAINS AT THE CORNER OF THE WALKWAY APPROXIMATELY.
AND THEN ARE THOSE SIGNS, THE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS, ARE THEY RIGHT UP ON THIS SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK OR ARE THEY ON THE POND SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK? SO THE NO TRESPASSING SIGN.
SO IF YOU FOLLOW THIS ALL THE WAY, UM, IT'LL SPILL OUT ONTO RHYMES COURT, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE NO TRESPASSING SIGN IS AND DO.
ARE THEY AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENT TO TAKE DOWN THE NO TRESPASSING SIGN? WELL, IT NEEDS ANY IMPROVEMENTS FUNDING THROUGH MATCHING GRANT MUST BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
ARE THEY AWARE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS? THEY, THEY WERE, THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO REMOVE THE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS.
UM, THEY, IN THEIR COMMENTS, THEY DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS THAT IN THE APPLICATION.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THAT? THEY, THEY DID JUST VERBAL CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD WITH THEM.
THEY DID, UM, SAY THEY DID MENTION THE COST OF THE SIGNS AND THAT IT HELPS TO OUT PEOPLE, UM, THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T WISH TO LO LOITER IN THE AREA.
SO, UM, I DID GET RESISTANCE WHEN THEY, WHEN I MENTIONED THEY MUST REMOVE THEM.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING SOURCE OF THIS MATCHING GRANT, IT NEEDS, IT NEEDS TO BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
SO I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY THIS ONE IS ONE THAT I, I WOULDN'T, IF IT WERE ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD NOT FIGHT ABOUT, BECAUSE IT'S DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ADDING A PLAYGROUND THAT WOULD THE PUBLIC WOULD WANT TO GO TO.
WE'RE LITERALLY JUST TRYING TO HELP KEEP IT FROM FLOODING.
UM, SO I MEAN, IT'S NOT A HARD, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A NON-NEGOTIABLE FOR ME.
UM, I, THAT'S JUST ME PERSONALLY.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HERE OR ONLY CAMELOT? NO.
UM, YEAH, I, I, I JUST, I'M, IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A HILL I WOULD WANT, I CARE TO DIE ON PERSONALLY.
UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE IT, I MEAN, IT'S ROCKS.
IT'S, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE DOING A PLAYGROUND OR A TENNIS COURT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY WANT TO PARTAKE IN, I MEAN, I, I DON'T FORESEE ANYONE GOING BEING LIKE, OH YEAH, THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD DRY CREEK.
I, THAT IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HERE AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO WHETHER WE CAN SPEND, UH, PUBLIC MONEY ON, ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE ABOUT.WELL, ISN'T THAT WHY SHE WAS SAYING THE NOTICE PASSING WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED? YEAH.
IF WE WERE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THAT.
AND I THINK THAT THE CHAIR WAS SUGGESTING THAT SHE WOULD LEAVE THE SIGN UP.
AND I GUESS THAT THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE IS I JUST DON'T KNOW LEGALLY WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT.
IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE SOMETIMES MAKE THEM TAKE THOSE SIGNS DOWN IS IF YOU WANT US TO SPEND PUBLIC MONEY, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CONSTITUTION ALLOWED TO SPEND PUBLIC MONEY TO IMPROVE A PRIVATE HOUSE.
SO IF WE COULD FIND OUT THE LEGALITIES THAT, SO YOU MIGHT JUST CHECK WITH, WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SEE WHETHER THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND IF THEY ARE AGAINST, IF THEY'RE JUST NOT IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THOSE SIGNS, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING, ANY OTHER PROGRAM THAT WOULD HELP THEM WITH THAT? UM, DRAINAGE RIGHT THERE.
SO BASED ON THE DRAINAGE, JUST THE FLOODING ASSESSMENT, UM, THEY, UH, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DETERMINED THAT, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE REQUESTED IMPROVEMENTS WOULD ARE JUST AESTHETIC IN NATURE AND NOT NECESSARILY, UM, LIKE LIFE STRUCTURAL SAVING.
AND ALSO THE, THAT PARTICULAR FLUME AREA IS A SECONDARY OVERFLOW PATH.
UM, THERE IS A STORM WATER PIPE THAT RUNS UNDERNEATH IT THAT'S DESIGNED TO, UM, CARRY THE BULK OF THAT STORM WATER.
UM, AND SO THEY'RE, I MEAN, THEY SAID THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT SAID THEY'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER GRADING CHANGES OR EROSION INTERVENTIONS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO.
HOWEVER, UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIFICALLY NEEDED, IT'S JUST AESTHETIC.
UM, SO IN THAT CASE, UM, I, I'M STILL NOT GONNA DIE ON THE HILL, BUT UM, SINCE IT IS JUST A AESTHETIC AND IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT ANYONE'S HOUSES, YOU KNOW, COLLAPSING OR, UM, IT'S NOT DOING DAMAGE TO HOMES, THEN I WOULD, I'M ON, I'M, I'M MORE ON BOARD WITH KEY, UH, REMOVING THE SIGNS, UM, WITH THAT INFORMATION.
THE CURRENT, THE EXISTING ROCKS THAT ARE THERE, THOSE ARE ONES THAT WAS, WERE PUT IN BY THE CITY OR? SURE.
SO I, ONE THING I WOULD ASK IS THAT IT IS A LITTLE MORE VISUALLY APPEALING THAN THE CURRENT, UM, ROCKS.
UM, 'CAUSE YOU CAN DO A DRY CREEK, VERY PRETTY, UM, WITH JUST CHANGING, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OR THE COLOR OF THE BORDERING ROCKS.
UM, I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT JUST LOOK LIKE A VOMIT OF THE CREEK ROCKS, YOU KNOW? UM, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.
JUSTIN, YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? ALRIGHT, SO I GUESS WE WILL, IF THEY'RE DOWN TO REMOVE THE TRESPASSING SIGN IS REQUIRED, THEN I GO PERSONAL.
THIS IS ALWAYS, UM, A FUN, A FUN PART OF THE YEAR, GETTING TO SEE WHAT UPGRADES, UH, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WANTING TO MAKE.
AND IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO SEE, TO SEE PEOPLE PUTTING A LITTLE, UM, LOVE INTO THEIR, INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO KEEP IT, KEEP IT ON PAR.
ALRIGHT, WELL THAT IS, THAT WAS OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM.
SO ITEM ADAM FOUR IS ADJOURNED.
SO AT 10 44, 10 45, WE ARE ADJOURNED.