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WE WILL BEGIN. 
          [Community Services Committee on November 10, 2020]
SO WE'LL START, LET'S START WITH ME GETTING MY PAGES SEPARATED. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          WITH APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 24TH, 2020 MEETING, HAS EVERYONE ON COMMITTEE HAD TIME TO LOOK OVER THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY WERE ACCURATE? YES, I MOVE APPROVAL SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR APPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA IS REVIEW OF THE FALL 2020 NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MATCHING GRANT APPLICATIONS. 
          AND BOY, DO WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM? SO WHY DON'T WE JUST JUMP IN AND ROLL WITH THIS? IT'S GOING TO TAKE, I ASSUME QUITE A WHILE. 
          SO, UM, KATIA, IS THAT GONNA BE YOU? YEP, YOU'RE ON. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND, UM, MAKE IT A FULL SCREEN CONTROL. 
          OH, IS IT? OH, OH, THIS IS, HEY, KARMA'S ALWAYS MY CONNECTION. 
          THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT WOULD BE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          SO I'M GONNA START OFF. 
          UM, YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A PACKET WITH ALL OF THIS. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE GOING TO, THIS IS JUST A GENERAL MAP OF WHERE ALL OF THESE ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF GARLAND. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH VILLAGES OF VALLEY CREEK. 
          THIS PROJECT NAME IS PLEASANT VALLEY PARKWAY CORRIDOR, A BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT. 
          THIS IS ALONG THE PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE AS THIS IS THEIR SECOND TIME APPLYING FOR A SIMILAR PROJECT. 
          I DO HAVE A TIMELINE JUST SO EVERYONE CAN, UM, UNDERSTAND THE, THEIR HISTORY WITH THE MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM. 
          AS IN FALL 2016, THEY APPLIED FOR RIGHT OF WAY ENHANCEMENTS. 
          ZEROSCAPING TEXAS NATIVE PLANTS AND MULCHING THE PARKWAY. 
          IT WAS APPROVED AND CITY OF GARLAND PAID ALMOST $22,000 FOR IT. 
          UM, THREE YEARS LATER, THEY DECIDED THAT THE MULCH WAS, UM, HAVING A LEADING TO EROSION CONTROL ISSUES. 
          AND SO THEY WANTED TO REMOVE THE MULCH AND INSTALL A ROCK GROUND COVER, AND IT WAS DENIED WITH THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE SUGGESTION WAS, WE REALLY WANTED TO SEE THOSE PLANTS THAT WE PAID FOR THREE YEARS AGO INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT. 
          AND SO HERE WE ARE TODAY, THEY LISTENED AND THEY ARE WANTING TO REMOVE THAT MULCH. 
          AGAIN, THE EROSION IS NOT GETTING ANY BETTER, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THOSE PLANTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY INSTALLED TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. 
          UM, THEY ARE MAKING THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT LARGER, AND THAT MEANS A HIGHER PRICE. 
          SO THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS ALMOST $63,000. 
          AND WITH A TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT MATCH, THE CITY WOULD BE PAYING $47,252 AND 50 CENTS. 
          UM, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE IS A CURRENT VISUAL OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OUT THERE AND UP AT THE TOP, RIGHT PHOTO IS PROBABLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED AND I ACTUALLY, UM, TALK TO THEIR SELECTED CONTRACTOR AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A SIMILAR PROJECT THAT WAS RECENTLY COMPLETED AT, UM, THE, WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS IT? OH, FIRE WHEEL ESTATES. 
          UM, AND THEY DID NOT HAVE THE PLANTS THAT THEY DID THIS ON THEIR OWN TERMS. AND SO IT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE THAT THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD IN GARLAND THAT USED THIS CONTRACTOR THAT DID THIS EXACT PROJECT. 
          AND I TOOK SOME PHOTOS WHILE I WAS OUT THERE. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY PLANTS TO BEGIN WITH, BUT THIS WAS COMPLETED, UM, RECENTLY. 
          SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D SHARE THAT  SO THEIR PROJECT GOALS ARE TO LOWER MAINTENANCE AND TACKLE THE EROSION ISSUES THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH. 
          UM, BUT ALSO HAVING A PICTURE S VIEW ALONG PLEASANT VALLEY AS IT IS A NICE ENTRY CORRIDOR INTO GARLAND, OR IF YOU'RE LEAVING TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER CITY, THE MAINTENANCE THAT THEY'VE STATED IS THAT IT WILL BE MINIMAL. 
          UH, ONCE THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED AND THE HOA DOES HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUDGET, UM, AND A CONTRACTOR TO CONDUCT AS NEEDED VISITS. 
          NEXT ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE ROCKS THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED. 
          THERE'LL BE THREE BY FIVE RIVER ROCK, UM, TO REPLACE THAT MULCH GROUND COVER. 
          AND THEY'D LIKE TO KEEP AS MANY PLANTS AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND UNDER THE, UM, THE ENTRYWAY FEATURES, 
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THERE ARE, UM, PLANT BEDS AND TEXAS NATIVE PLANTS. 
          AND THEY'D LIKE TO KEEP THOSE AS WELL FROM THAT 2016 PROJECT NEXT IS SHOWING JUST THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT PROPOSAL. 
          IT'S ABOUT A HALF MILE FROM THE ALLEY OF BRIAR BROOK, ALL THE WAY TO CREEK MEADOW. 
          HERE ARE SOME MORE PHOTOS OF THE SITE VISIT AND THE COMMENTS ARE FROM ENGINEERING THAT THEY WOULD NEED A PERMIT AND A 20 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AS THIS IS NOT HOA OWNED PLANT, UH, PARKS WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, BERMS AND MOUNTAINS BEING ADDED. 
          AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE GOAL, UM, BUILDING INSPECTIONS SO THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A PERMIT AND OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY INCLUDED THE NEW LANGUAGE OF THE LANDSCAPING. 
          JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THE PROJECT IS JUST FOR GROUND COVER AND TO HELP KEEP THE CURRENT PLANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE NOT INSTALLING ANY NEW PLANTS WITH THE PROPOSED PROJECT. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT VILLAGES OF VALLEY CREEK. 
          UM, I HATE TO MAKE YOU DO THIS, BUT CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR, TAKE DOWN YOUR SHARE SCREEN IN BETWEEN SO THAT WE CAN SEE EACH OTHER? ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? I'D RATHER TAKE THE QUESTIONS AS WE GO WHILE IT'S STILL PRETTY FRESH THEN TO, WE HAVE SO MANY TO REVIEW. 
          SO YEAH. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD. 
          GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          PLEASE. 
          YOU CAN SHARE SCREEN AGAIN. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE NEXT ONE IS IRON GATE AT FIRE WHEEL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          PROJECT NAME IS GARLAND ROAD SURROUNDING SIDEWALK ENHANCEMENT. 
          THIS IS A SIMILAR PROJECT TO THE ONE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. 
          THEY ARE WANTING TO DO THIS AT THE SIDEWALK NORTH AND SOUTH BETWEEN 100 IRON GATE DRIVE ALONG NORTH GARLAND AVENUE. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECT COSTS WOULD BE ABOUT $33,135 WITH A 20% MATCH. 
          THE CITY WOULD BE PAYING 26,500. 
          AND, UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO IRRATE THE TURF FOR IMPROVED WATER ABSORPTION, INSTALL, SALT AND PEPPER ROCK ABOUT FIVE TO SIX INCHES UNDER THEIR CURRENT TREES, ABOUT 7,000 SQUARE FEET AND MULCH THERE, CREPE MYRTLES. 
          AND THIS IS AN IMAGE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE CURRENTLY OUT THERE. 
          SO AGAIN, THEY ARE ALSO DEALING WITH AN EROSION CONTROL AND PEOPLE USE THIS SIDEWALK REGULARLY TO GO ON THEIR WALKS OR THEIR RUNS. 
          AND, UM, A GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO ENHANCE SAFETY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THIS SIDEWALK. 
          THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU ENTER AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE TO, THEY WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE SAFETY. 
          AND FOR MAINTENANCE, THEY'RE SAYING IN THE APPLICATION, THERE IS MINIMAL MAINTENANCE. 
          AFTER THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED, THE HOA HAS A LANDSCAPE BUDGET AND A CONTRACTOR TO REPLACE, UM, THE MORE GENDER, THE CREPE, MYRTLES, AND CONDUCT AS NEEDED VISITS, UM, IN THEIR LETTER OF INTENT, THEY WANTED TO INSTALL MORE LANDSCAPING. 
          AND SO THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY ADDED THAT NEW LANGUAGE FOR THE LIVE PLANT MATERIAL THAT, UM, HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND THEY TOOK OUT THE, UM, THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT, BUT THE COMMENT WILL STILL STAND AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IRON GATE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IS IT, IS AIRATION AIRATION OF TURF SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WE BELIEVE QUALIFIES. 
          I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S A, THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S LIKE PAYING SOMEONE TO MOW YOUR GRASS OR SOMETHING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THE LANDSCAPE COMMENTS STILL STANDS WITHIN THE OPPOSITE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY. 
          SO IS THAT A GOOD USE OF CAPITAL FUNDS? I'M NOT SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT DOESN'T FEEL, I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE CAN SPEAK TO THAT AND MAYBE MR. HACER CAN TELL US ABOUT UH AIRATION BUT I, I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT. 
          OR MAYBE DYLAN, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT, UH, IS THAT REALLY A DRAINAGE CONTROL TYPE OF THING? I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT CAN BE, UM, DEPENDING ON THE, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE THE PICTURE VERY WELL. 
          UM, ONCE YOU START DOING IT, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO DO IT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, AND USUALLY YOU DO IT BY PULLING CORNERS, 
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BUT WHEN YOU PULL THE CORNERS, IT'LL HELP WITH INFILTRATION IN COMPACTED SOIL TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE PRETTY, PRETTY AGGRESSIVE AND AN ONGOING PROCESS. 
          I MEAN, IF THERE'S TRULY A DRAINAGE ISSUE THERE, I THINK I'D RATHER SEE SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, THAT ADDRESSES THAT ADDRESSES DRAINAGE. 
          I MEAN, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH NEIGHBORED VITALITY OR GOING THROUGH ONE OF THE DRAINAGE CONTROL PROGRAMS, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. 
          NOW QUESTION WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING DRAINS, ARE WE TALKING JUST WATER, STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK? ARE WE TALKING DIRT THAT IS ERODING? IT LOOKS LIKE THE PICTURES. 
          THERE'S NO GROUND COVER. 
          AND THEN IT ERODES. 
          AND THAT GOES TO THE SIDEWALK. 
          IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? YES. 
          THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE SAYING PROBLEMS ARE ARISING AND THEY WANT TO HELP THE SAFETY OF THEIR WALKERS AND RUNNERS. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE THEY COULD PUT DOWN SOME KIND OF ROOT BARRIER, FIRST GEOTEXTILE FABRIC, AND THEN PUT THE ROCKS ON TOP OF THAT. 
          AND IT WOULD COVER THAT UP. 
          AND THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE EROSION ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING THERE ALONG THE SIDEWALK. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT VARIATION, IF THAT THAT'S TYPICALLY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE TURF RATHER THAN CONTROL THE EROSION. 
          DO WE HAVE A COST BREAKDOWN? YES. 
          SO THEY SAID THAT IT WAS $2,000 TO AIR RATE AND 31,000 TO DO THE ROCKS, THE SALT AND PEPPER ROCKS. 
          AND THEY'VE CHOSEN A PUSH THIS PRECISION TREE CARE AND THE GARDEN SCAPE. 
          UM, I GUESS FOLLOWING ON COUNCIL MEMBER HEDRICK POINT, I, I, I, IF THE, IF THE GOAL IS TO PREVENT EROSION UNDER THE SIDEWALK, THEN I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT I DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO COME BACK TO US IN THREE YEARS AND BE LIKE, OH, BY THE WAY, NOW WE NEED ANOTHER 30,000. 
          CAUSE IT DIDN'T ACT, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T ACTUALLY CONTROL THE EROSION BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO AT LEAST LIKE TO KNOW THAT THAT WILL ACTUALLY CONTROL THE PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. 
          AND MAYBE IT DOES MAYBE THE CURRENT DESIGN DOES. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW FOR WHAT CAN, UM, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR THIS TO COME BACK TO US WITH A REPORT MORE ABOUT THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS DESIGN? UM, YEAH. 
          UNLESS THERE'S SOMEONE WHO CAN SPEAK TO IT TODAY, I THINK I'D PROBABLY RATHER IT COME BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE SOLVING THE PROBLEM THAT, THAT THEY ASSERT THEY HAVE. 
          UM, , THAT'S A LITTLE, AND I GUESS I FEEL A LITTLE BIT SIMILARLY THEN ABOUT THE FIRST ONE THAT THAT WAS PRESENTED. 
          DO WE KNOW THAT IT, BECAUSE THAT INDICATES AS WELL, THAT THE PURPOSE OF THEIR PROJECT IS TO PREVENT EROSION AND WASH OUT. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN PARTICULAR ON THE FIRST PROJECT, THAT'S ONE, THAT'S COMING BACK TO US ONLY, YOU KNOW, FOUR YEARS LATER FOR ANOTHER PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SUM OF MONEY. 
          I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW ROCKS COST THAT MUCH, BUT I DON'T, BUT I DON'T DEAL MUCH WITH, WITH LITERAL ROCKS, UM, ONLY METAPHORICAL ONES, BUT, UH, BUT ANYWAY, I, I I'D AT LEAST LIKE TO KNOW THAT OR HAVE SOME PRETTY SOLID UNDERSTANDING THAT WERE SOLVED, THAT IF THAT, IF THE PURPOSE OF THE, OF THE, OF THE GRANT IS TO SOLVE A PARTICULAR PROBLEM, THAT WE'RE SOLVING THAT PROBLEM. 
          IF THEY'RE PUTTING, IF, IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, IF IT'S JUST A VISUAL THING, IF IT'S JUST A VISUAL THING AND IT'S ALSO A VISUAL THING, THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND I, I, I'M SURE THAT'S PART OF WHAT THEY WANT, BUT WHAT IT DOES INDICATE THAT THE PURPOSE, AT LEAST ONE OF THEM IS TO PREVENT EROSION AND WASH OUT. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL ON THESE, ON THESE FIRST TWO, THEN, UM, COMMITTEE, DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD NOW AND JUST SAY WE WOULD LIKE BOTH OF THOSE TO GO BACK AND RETURN TO US WITH A FUNCTIONALITY REPORT TO SEE IF THESE, UM, DESIGNED WILL IN FACT ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THE EROSION ISSUES THAT THEY'RE PRESENTING AND JUST LET THEM COME BACK TO US NEXT MONTH? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FINE. 
          I THINK THEY NEED TO GET TO EVERYONE ADDRESS THE ROACH. 
          LIKE I SAID, THEY NEED SOME KIND OF GUARANTEE OR FROM THEIR INSTALLER 
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THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT SOLUTION AT THE BRONX THEMSELVES OR WITH A FABRIC OR NEED FOR WHATEVER MATE WE'LL HANDLE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHAT CAUGHT YOU? LET'S LET'S DO THAT WITH THESE FIRST TWO AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, IF THAT'S IS EVERYBODY DONE? OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT IS WILLING TO RUN HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. 
          ANOTHER ONE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN. 
          THIS IS AT THE CAPSTONE LANE AND TRENDS ENHANCEMENT PROJECT, AND IT'S LOCATED AT THE WEST SIDE ENTRANCE AT RELEVANT ROAD IN CAPSTONE LANE. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $2,800. 
          AND WITH A 10% MATCH, THE CITY WOULD BE PAYING, UH, 2,521. 
          UM, THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED THIS IN AUGUST OF 2020, SO IT SEEMS LIKE A LIFETIME AGO, BUT IT WASN'T. 
          AND THEY, UM, THIS WAS, UM, I'D SAY IN A, IN AN ODD PLACE WITH TIMING, AS WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING THE IDEA OF LIVE LANDSCAPING, NOT BEING ELIGIBLE FOR MATCHING GRANT FUNDS. 
          AND SO IT, UM, ARRIVED AT THIS MEETING JUST AS WE WERE MAKING THE COMMITMENT THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ELIGIBLE FOR CAPITAL FUNDS. 
          AND SO THIS PROJECT WAS DENIED, BUT WITH THE, UM, ENCOURAGEMENT TO COME BACK WITH HARDSCAPE FEATURES AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE AS THEY WOULD LIKE TO UPGRADE AND BEAUTIFY THE CAPSTONE LANE AND LET ROAD ENTRANCE WITH NEW HARDSCAPING FEATURES, THEY'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE PLANTS AND REPLACE WITH HARDSCAPING, LIKE CRUSHED DECOMPOSED, GRANITE MOSS, BOULDERS, OKLAHOMA CHOP BLOCK, AND CINNAMON GRAVEL. 
          UM, AND THEY HAVE IN THEIR, UH, SITE PLAN, A SMALL AREA TO INSTALL SEASONAL PLANTS AT THEIR OWN DISCRETION. 
          UM, AND THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE. 
          THESE ARE SOME PICTURES FROM THE SITE VISIT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE, SOME OF THE PLANTS IN THEIR ENTRANCE ARE DYING. 
          AND, UM, THEY THINK THAT THIS IS A MORE, UM, LOW-MAINTENANCE AND, UM, MORE LIFELONG PROJECT TO HAVE ROCKS INSTEAD OF LIFE PLANT MATERIAL. 
          THEIR GOAL IS TO LOWER MAINTENANCE NEEDS WHILE HAVING A MORE PICTURESQUE VIEW ALONG RELAT ROAD WHEN ENTERING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FROM THEIR APPLICATION, THEY WRITE THAT THERE IS A MINIMAL MAINTENANCE AFTER THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED. 
          THE HOA DOES HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUDGET AND A SELECTED CONTRACTOR TO CONDUCT AS NEEDED VISITS AND FOR THE COMMENTS ENGINEERING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO JUST CALL, UH TXU BEFORE, UM, ANY, ANY WORK IS BEING DONE. 
          AND THAT WAS THE ONLY COMMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? OKAY. 
          UM, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS THESE AS WE GO, SINCE WE'RE TAKING QUESTIONS AS WE GO AND JUST MAKE A, MAKE A DECISION ON THEM AGAIN, SINCE WE HAVE A GREAT NUMBER OF THEM, UM, COUNCILMAN HENDRICK, OR ALBANY, EITHER ONE OR OTHER, YOU WANT TO, I SUGGEST THAT WE SAID WE RECOMMEND APPROVALS OF COUNSEL ON THIS ONE. 
          I APPRECIATE THEM COMING BACK TO US WITH A REVISED PROPOSAL. 
          UM, NOT EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTING TO DO, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          AND I AGREE. 
          I THINK THAT HARDSCAPE PROVISIONS ARE, ARE NOW THEY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE PROGRAM. 
          SO WE ALL GET WITH THIS ONE MOVING FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW'D YOU PUT THAT WENT INTO THE YES. 
          LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ONWARD, WE GO, OKAY. 
          NEXT IS CHARLESTON COMMONS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          THIS IS A COMMON AREA ENHANCEMENT PROJECT OFF OF DOGWOOD DRIVE, UM, GOOSE CREEK PARKWAY. 
          AND IT'S IN THE COMMON AREA. 
          UM, AND THERE'S A LITTLE PROP PROJECT COST IS $26,661 WITH A 20% MATCH. 
          THE CITY WOULD BE PAYING $21,339. 
          THEY WOULD LIKE TO ENHANCE THIS COMMON AREA WITH ADDITIONAL SEATING SLASH GAME TABLE, A CONCRETE WALKWAY, AND A LITTLE FREE LIBRARY. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS ACTUALLY NO CONNECTION FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE PAVILION AND THEY ARE DEALING WITH SOME WATER RUNOFF. 
          AND, UM, THEY'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE AN ADA ACCESSIBLE CONNECTION. 
          SO 
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THE GOAL IS TO IMPROVE SAFETY, IMPROVE ENGAGEMENT, BEAUTIFICATION, AND COMMUNITY PRIDE FROM THEIR APPLICATION. 
          THEY WRITE THAT THERE WILL BE LOW MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS. 
          AFTER THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED. 
          THE HOA REQUIRES MONTHLY PAYMENTS FROM RESIDENTS AND THEY'LL USE THOSE FUNDS TO CONDUCT AS NEEDED VISITS OR CITY STAFF COMMENTS ARCS IS STATING THAT THE SEATING SHOULD BE OF COMMERCIAL QUALITY BUILDING INSPECTION STATING THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A PERMIT AND OPPOSITE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, UM, WAS QUESTIONING IF THIS IS GOING TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE AND THAT A LICENSE AGREEMENT MIGHT BE REQUIRED. 
          THIS IS HOA OWNED PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO STILL POTENTIAL, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT AND ENGINEERING IS STATING THAT THEY NEED TO STAY OUT OF THE EASEMENT AS NO STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE EASEMENT. 
          AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESPONDENTS SAYING THAT THEIR GOAL IS TO, UH, RECEIVING THOSE REQUIRED PERMITS AND STAYING OUT OF THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT. 
          AND WITH THAT, I WOULD BE PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON CHARLESTON COMMENTS. 
          DO WE KNOW IF THE EXISTING PAVILION IS IN THE EASEMENTS OR IS IT NEXT? THESE BINS ARE OUTSIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW'S THE PAVILION COULDN'T HAVE BEEN BUILT, UM, IN AN EASEMENT TO BEGIN WITH. 
          AND I TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHEN IT WAS BUILT. 
          UM, BUT, UH, FROM GOOGLE MAPS AND FROM ASKING, UM, THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA, WE DISCOVERED THAT IT WAS PROBABLY BUILT BETWEEN 2012 AND 2018, BUT WAS NOT USED UNDER THIS PROGRAM. 
          NOPE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MANY THINGS THAT WERE BUILT IN THE MURKY MISTS OF TIME AND DARNELL HUMANS ALIVE, WHO REMEMBER, SO THAT'S KIND OF REFRESHING. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COME TO ME AT ALL? THEN YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT AS LONG AS THEY MEET ALL THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY, UH, BY THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO IT'S THIS ONE WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHTY. 
          YOU'RE DOING GREAT. 
          HOW TO KEEP IT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT IS CHANDLER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          THIS IS OUR FIRST VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THIS PRESENTATION AND THE PROJECT NAME IS COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT PROJECT. 
          THEY'D LIKE TO DO THIS OFF OF EVENING DRIVE AND FIFTH STREET. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECT COSTS WILL BE $3,400. 
          AND WITH THE NEW GUIDELINES THAT WERE DISCUSSED AND IMPLEMENTED, BECAUSE THIS IS A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, THEY WOULD RECEIVE, UM, THE FULL REIMBURSEMENT BACK BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS UNDER $10,000. 
          AND WITH THAT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL A COMMUNITY BULLETIN BOARD AND A GRILL WITHIN EDWIN CIRCLE AND INSTALL FOUR STONE BENCHES AT TWO DART BUS STOPS WITHIN THE CHANDLER HEIGHTS BOUNDARIES. 
          UM, THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT EVENING CIRCLE LOOKS LIKE, AND THIS IS WHAT THE BLOCKS WOULD LOOK LIKE WITHOUT THE CHANDLER HEIGHTS NAME. 
          AND THESE ARE THE PHOTOS THAT THEY PROVIDED AS TO WHAT THE GRILL WOULD LOOK LIKE AND OR COMMUNITY, UM, COMMUNITY BULLETIN BOARD. 
          THESE ARE WHAT THE TWO BUS STOPS LOOK LIKE ON JUST ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD. 
          SO, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING FOR THE BUS STOP, UH, POTENTIALLY COULD BENEFIT, UM, WITH AN AREA TO SIT WHILE THEY WAIT. 
          THE PROJECT GOALS ARE TO COMMUTE, UH, IMPROVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND BEAUTIFICATION. 
          AND IN THEIR APPLICATION, THEY WRITE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY LOW MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENT AFTER THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED. 
          UM, BESIDES PERIODIC GRILL CLEANING AND BULLETIN BOARD CLEAN, UH, BOLTON BOARD CLEAN-OUT, UM, THAT WILL BE DONE BY CHANDLER HEIGHTS VOLUNTEERS. 
          SO CITY, CITY, STAFF COMMENTS ENGINEERING STATED THAT IF THE BULLETIN BOARD IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY, A LICENSE AGREEMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          AND THE OPPOSITE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY HAD SOME QUESTIONS. 
          IF THE COMMUNITY BULLETIN BOARD IS WORTHY IS A WORTHY USE OF CAPITAL FUNDS. 
          AND, UM, WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CHANDLER HEIGHTS. 
          UM, I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. 
          DO WE KNOW A BREAKOUT AT THE COST OF THE COMMUNITY OR WHAT'S IMPORTANT? YES, IT IS A $200 AND THE GRILL IS $205 AND THE BENCHES 
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ARE ABOUT, UM, 2200 WITH, UM, 1200 FOR LABOR. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE HEAVY. 
          I WOULD CHARGE MORE THAN THAT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          THE, THE BENCHES, UM, HAVE WE TALKED TO DART AT ALL ABOUT THESE, WHAT STARTS POSITION ON? CAUSE I MEAN, A LOT OF TIMES DARK WILL DARNEL PUT THEIR OWN DONALD PUT A BENCH OUT THERE AND, AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE LOVELY, YOU KNOW, CHANDLER HEIGHTS ON THEM, BUT WE'LL PUT A BUNCH OUT THERE AND THE BENCH WILL BE OPTIMIZED FOR USE BY MY FOLKS IN IF THERE'S ENOUGH USAGE, THEY'LL EVEN PUT A STRUCTURE OUT THERE. 
          WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO OUR, UM, OUR DARK BOARD REPRESENTATIVE ABOUT THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT. 
          THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE VENTURES ARE SET UP SO THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT SO INCLINED TO SLEEP UPON THEM. 
          UM, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH DART. 
          THIS IS WITHIN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO I DID TALK TO ENGINEERING ABOUT THE BENCHES AND THEY ARE FINE WITH THEM IN THAT LOCATION. 
          UM, SO I COULD REACH OUT TO DART AND, AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENT. 
          UH, I'VE NEVER DONE THAT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THEIR RESPONSE RATE, BUT I WOULD, UH, HOPE THAT THEY WOULD RESPOND TO ME. 
          OUR DART REPRESENTATIVE, UH, JONATHAN IS, IS, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO HAVE A MIND BLANK ON HIS LAST NAME, BUT, BUT IS EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE AND RESPOND EITHER TO YOU OR TO, OR TO COUNSEL COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE'S DISTRICT. 
          I'M SURE HE'D RESPOND, UH, TO HER, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE POSITION OF THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE POSITION OF THE, UH, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS HERE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, IS THERE SOME REASON THEY DON'T WANT OUR BENCHES OR HAVE THEY ENGAGED? I'M NOT TRYING TO LOCK UP THE WATERS. 
          THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. 
          I CAN TALK TO CHRIS BEARD. 
          SHE'S THE PRESIDENT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE TALKED TO JONATHAN ABOUT PUTTING DARK BENCHES IN OTHER PARTS OF MY DISTRICT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE REQUESTED THEM. 
          AND THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS WELL, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A LONG STUDY. 
          YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE PICKED UP FROM THAT LOCATION TO RATE A BENCH AND IT'S, UM, IT ISN'T A, OH YEAH. 
          IF YOU ASK FOR IT, WE'LL PUT IT THERE. 
          IT REQUIRES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FOR DART TO CONSIDER THAT, UM, SOMETHING THEY'RE WILLING TO DO SO, AND BEING VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE AREAS AND CHANDLER HEIGHTS. 
          I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT DART WOULD AGREE TO THE EXPENSE OF PUTTING BENCHES HERE. 
          SO I WOULD BE STUNNED. 
          I CAN ASK. 
          I'LL BE HAPPY TO IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD BE SHOCKED. 
          THERE WERE, UM, I MEAN, NOT EVEN GETTING TRASH CANS AT SOME OF THE DARK SPACES, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A LONG PROCESS OF JUSTIFYING IT BY TRAFFIC. 
          SO, WELL, WE ALSO HAVE THE ISSUE ON WAS AFFECTED BEN, AS WE KNOW, DART AND DART HAS COME TO US AND TOLD US THEY'RE THE, RE-EVALUATING THEIR ENTIRE ROOT STRUCTURE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D WANT TO SPEND $3,400 ON BENCHES THAT MAY NOT, UH, WHERE THERE MAY NOT BE BUS STOP IN WHEN I THINK THEY'RE FIXING TO, TO, TO MAKE THOSE, THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS. 
          BUT AS TO THE, YOU KNOW, AND AS TO THE GIRL, I MEAN, I KNOW THE GRILL. 
          YEAH. 
          IF THEY DON'T HAVE A GRILL THERE, PEOPLE WANT TO GROW OUT. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORLY THING. 
          UH, AND I, SAME THING WITH THE BOY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF NEIGHBORED BY TED THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE IN ORCHARD HILLS, UH, THAT THE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION HAS AND USES. 
          UM, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT LIKE A PUBLIC BULLETIN BOARD. 
          LIKE ANYBODY PUT ANYTHING ON IT, IT IS MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT WAS PAID FOR, WITH NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MONEY, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S BEEN A NICE ADDITION TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT'S IT? THE IT'S CALLED ROBERT REST. 
          STOP IT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER AT PRIOR, PRIOR WOULD END, UH, QUINN, BROOKE. 
          NICE. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN HAVOC, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP EARLIER, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT DARK, WHETHER THEY'VE BEEN APPROACHED OR NOT? I KNOW THAT DOES HAVE A REQUEST FORM THAT YOU CAN PUT IN FOR A NEW UPGRADE TO A BUS STOP AND THEY REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRIPS LIKE COUNCILMAN ROBIN SAID, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST APPROACH THEM FIRST BEFORE DOING THE UPGRADES. 
          AND I, I DO LIKE THE THOUGHT OF THE BUS STOPS MOVING POSSIBLY OR ROUTES 
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MOVING. 
          SO THAT'S MAYBE WANT TO HOLD OFF ON THAT PORTION OF IT, EVEN AFTER WE TALKED TO DART, UH, OTHERWISE I'M FINE WITH THE GRILL AND THE BULLETIN BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          ARE WE AGREED ON THAT? THAT ALL OF THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME AND YES, WITH DARK CHANGING STOPS, THAT WOULD BE SILLY TO, TO DO THIS AND THEN HAVE THE, THE STOP GO AWAY. 
          AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO, TO REACH OUT TO JONATHAN AND, AND DISCUSS THIS WITH HIM AGAIN. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I'M HEARING WE'RE OKAY WITH THE BULLETIN BOARD AND THE GRILL, UM, AND JUST HOLDING OFF ON THE, UM, FOUR STONE BENCHES, CORRECT? IS THAT WE AGREE? OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASSIGNED, KEEPS DISAPPEARING THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          I CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT OF FLICKER. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT, CAPTAIN, LET'S DO THAT. 
          AND I WILL ALSO COMMUNICATE WITH CHRIS BEARD, WHICH AMBER HIKES AND LET HER KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE IN CASE SHE'S NOT KIND OF BEEN ON TOP OF THE DARK SHIFTS, POTENTIAL SHIFTS COMING UP. 
          WELL, NO, THAT'S SOME REALLY GREAT POINTS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT IS, UM, TRAVIS COLLEGE HILL NEIGHBORS. 
          THE PROJECT NAME IS COMMEMORATIVE MARKER AND LANDSCAPE. 
          THIS IS AT, UM, AVENUE B AROUND THREE OH ONE SOUTH 11TH STREET. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $5,500. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          AND SO, UM, THEY WOULD BE REIMBURSED THE TOTAL AMOUNT. 
          ONCE THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETED, THEY ARE WANTING TO INSTALL A VIBRANT COMMEMORATIVE SIGN, UH, 58 INCHES BY 36 INCHES WITH DROUGHT TOLERANT LANDSCAPING AROUND IT. 
          UM, THE LANDSCAPING RANGES FROM TEXAS LAND LANTANA TO AUTUMN STAGE, AND THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INSTALL A THREE AND A HALF FOOT TALL BRICK BASE, POTENTIALLY THE BRICKS BEING DONATED BY THE CITY OF GARLAND THAT THE SIGN WILL SIT ON WITH A TOTAL HEIGHT OF EIGHT FEET TALL. 
          THESE PHOTOS ARE OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER WHOSE YARD THIS WOULD BE GOING IN. 
          I DO HAVE A LETTER FROM THAT PROPERTY OWNER STATING THAT THEY THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, AND THEY'RE TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THE SIGN GOING IN THEIR YARD. 
          SO THAT WAS, UM, CRUCIAL IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROPOSE A PROJECT IN SOMEONE'S YARD AND YOU SHOULD GET APPROVAL FROM THEM. 
          DEFINITELY. 
          UM, THEY DON'T HAVE A DRAFT OF THE SIGN YET. 
          HOWEVER, THE SELECTED DESIGNER DID INSTALL THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN THAT IS JUST AT THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO THEY'RE USING THAT SAME COMPANY, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          AND SO I PROVIDED A PHOTO OF, UM, A SIMILAR IMAGE OF WHAT THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON THE GROUND WITH THE DIFFERENT BUTTERFLIES AND A LITTLE DESCRIPTION, AS WELL AS FROM THEIR WEBSITE, THEY ARE ADVERTISING THAT THEY DO MAKE SCULPTURAL DESIGNS, AND THIS IS THE IMAGE I FOUND ON THEIR WEBSITE. 
          SO THE PROJECT GOAL IS TO ENHANCE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, PRIDE, AND BEAUTIFICATION. 
          AND IN THEIR APPLICATION, THEY WRITE THAT THERE IS LOW MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS. 
          ONCE THIS PROJECT IS COMPLETED, THEY WILL DO WEEKLY WEED EATING AND TRIMMING ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND, UM, THEY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CAPE GARLAND, BEAUTIFUL THAT MAKES TWO TRIPS A YEAR TO SUPERVISE AND GIVE GUIDANCE ON FUTURE MAINTENANCE. 
          AS FAR AS CITY STAFF COMMENTS, BUILDING INSPECTION STATES, THAT THERE MAY BE PERMITS REQUIRED. 
          THE, UH, ENGINEERING STATED THAT ALL IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD REMAIN ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THE OPPOSITE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY WROTE THAT THE PREVIOUS BUTTERFLY GARDEN RECEIVED A PUBLIC APP TEST MAINTENANCE AND RECREATIONAL EASEMENT. 
          AND AGAIN, WITH THE PROJECT PROPOSING LANDSCAPING, WE ADDED THAT STANDARD LANDSCAPING COMMENT. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON TRAVIS COLLEGE HILL NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, IS THERE GOING TO BE, UH, ULTIMATELY WHO'S GOING TO OWN, UH, WHAT'S BUILT HERE AND IS THERE GOING TO BE AN EASEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? SO THAT, I DUNNO, UH, I DON'T KNOW, THE FLUID 
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4K CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF IT GOES IN THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO CHANGE HANDS OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT COULDN'T BE TAKEN DOWN IN A YEAR OR SO SHE WROTE IN THE CHAT, UM, OR LOUIS WROTE IN THE CHAT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO BE A LICENSED AGREEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BECAUSE TO MAKE IT, TO MAKE IT PUBLIC PROPERTY ESSENTIALLY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT. 
          IT, SO ANY, ANY OF THESE AREAS WHERE, UM, THAT INCLUDES SOME HBO AREA, THE HOA OWNED AREAS TOO. 
          WE HAVE TO DO A LICENSE AGREEMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL WITH THAT THEN, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN HENDRICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, I AGREE. 
          AS LONG AS THEY USE ME OR WHATEVER'S NECESSARY IS FILED WITH THE COUNTY CLERK AND IT WOULD THEN BE AN ENCUMBRANCE UPON THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WHAT'S NECESSARY THEN I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND KATYA DOES THIS LANDSCAPING THAT'S LISTED FALL INTO THE, UM, NECESSARY CATEGORY AS BEING A RELATIVELY MINOR COST OF THE COMPLETE PROJECT. 
          DOES THAT MAKE IT ELIGIBLE? I WAS JUST ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE THAT PART OUT BECAUSE WHEN WE, WHEN WE DID THE, THE FULL $10,000 REIMBURSEMENT FOR VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATIONS, UM, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT PART ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING HEART, YOU KNOW, HARDSCAPE VERSUS LIVE PLANT MATERIAL PART OF IT. 
          SO, UM, UH, I MEAN, IF YOU APPROVE THE CONCEPT HERE, I, WE CAN, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK IT OUT ON OUR END. 
          AND, AND IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEMS WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. 
          BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, IN THEIR APPLICATION, THEY DID WRITE THAT POTENTIALLY SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING COULD BE DONATED TO THEM. 
          SO THAT COULD RELIEVE THE CITY FROM THAT PAYMENT OF LANDSCAPING AND IN THEIR COST BREAK DOWN, THEY WROTE THAT THE SIGN WILL COST OF $4,420, AND THEY HAVE $1,080 DEDICATED TO LIBOR AND LANDSCAPING. 
          UM, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO BE EVEN HANDED. 
          SO IF WE ARE GOING TO SAY TO SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, NO, YOU CAN'T DO LIVE PLANTS BECAUSE THAT ISN'T COVERED BY THIS GRANT. 
          I DON'T WANT TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS GET AN EXCEPTION TO THAT. 
          SO LET'S JUST WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO, LET'S BE CONSISTENT. 
          UM, SO SCOTT, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? THAT YOU CAN WALK THIS THROUGH IF WE APPROVE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IN FACT STAYS CONSISTENT WITH OUR OTHER, UH, REGULATIONS THAT WE'VE SET UP? YES. 
          MA'AM WE CAN DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DO WE KNOW WHAT THE SIGN IS GOING TO BE? OKAY. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO BE A COMMEMORATIVE SIGN THAT, UM, POTENTIALLY COULD MENTION THE 1918 AND 2020 PANDEMIC ALSO, UM, MAYBE PHOTOS OF THE 1927 TORNADO, PICTURES OF DOWNTOWN, UH, PICTURES OF VARIOUS PLANTS, UM, DIFFERENT HOME MODIFICATIONS, UH, UH, POST-WORLD WAR II, UM, THE, OR THE GREAT DEPRESSION VETERANS FROM 11TH STREET, UM, OR THE, UH, THE MUSICAL THAT THE STREET PUTS ON. 
          SO THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT THEY COULD PUT INTO THE SIGN AND AS STATED, THEY JUST, THEY DON'T HAVE A DESIGN YET, BUT, UH, CLEARLY THEY HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS TO PUT INTO THE SIGN. 
          SO, UM, SOME TOUGH CHOICES WILL BE MADE AS IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN THROUGH IN THE PAST, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU IT'LL BE A GOOD PRODUCT IF IT'S COMING FROM THE SAME DESIGNER THAT DESIGNED THAT BUTTERFLY GARDEN. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, WELL COMMITTEE WITH THE PROVISO THAT'S SCOTT IS GOING TO, UM, SPEAK TO THE POTENTIAL LANDSCAPING ISSUE. 
          ARE WE GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH US? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO AS THERE WERE 10 PROJECTS, THE DOCUMENTS THAT I WAS CREATING WERE HUGE. 
          SO I BROKE IT UP IN SIX AND FOUR. 
          SO THIS IS JUST, UM, UM, NOTHING 
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DIFFERENT, JUST, UM, ANOTHER CITY MAP, UH, TO SHOW WHERE THE NEXT FOUR PROJECTS ARE RELATED TO THE CITY OF GARLAND. 
          UM, THIS HELPED JUST BREAK UP THE, THE SIZE OF THESE DOCUMENTS. 
          SO MOVING RIGHT ALONG, UM, THE NEXT PROJECT IS CAMELOT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          THE PROJECT NAME IS KING ARTHUR MEDIAN ENHANCEMENT PROJECT. 
          THIS IS LOCATED IN THE PUBLIC MEDIA AND AROUND THE 3,400 BLOCK OF KING ARTHUR AND 2,500 BLOCK OF COLLINS AT SHILOH. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $8,759. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          SO, UM, AFTER THE PROJECT WOULD BE COMPLETED, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD RECEIVE A CHECK FOR THE FULL AMOUNT FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT AND THEIR PROJECT SUMMARY IS TO INSTALL A NATIVE SHADE TREE IN THE KING ARTHUR PUBLIC MEDIAN WITH A COMMEMORATIVE ENGRAVED BOULDER TO MARK 40 YEARS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COVID-19 VICTIMS. ADDITIONALLY, UM, COMMERCIAL GRADE WATERPROOF SOLAR POWERED LED FLOODLIGHTS AT THE NEW BOULDER AND CURRENT SCIENCE AT SHILOH AND JUPITER, AND FINALLY A SMALL THREE FOOT TALL, UH, BENCH FOR PEOPLE TO SIT AND REFLECT OR LOOK AT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHATEVER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, SO A BIG PROJECT FOR SURE, IN THIS MEDIAN, UM, UH, THIS IS A PHOTO OF WHAT THE SIGN IS PROJECTED TO LOOK LIKE. 
          AND THE MATERIALS WOULD BE MATCHING WITH THAT, UM, DESIRED BENCH. 
          THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE THE TREE WOULD BE PROPOSED AND WHAT THE LED LIGHTS WOULD DO TO ASSIGN AT NIGHT. 
          SO THE PROJECT GOALS ARE TO RECOGNIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, LONG TIME SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, ALSO OFFERING EMOTIONAL SUPPORT TO RESIDENTS WHO MAY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE LOSSES OR SACRIFICES MADE DURING THIS PANDEMIC AND FOR FUTURE MAINTENANCE IN THE APPLICATION, THEY WROTE THAT THE NEIGHBORS WILL BE HELPING WITH TREE WATERING FOR THE FIRST YEAR IN THE MEDIAN HAS A SPRINKLER SYSTEM. 
          THEY DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUDGET, UM, PER THE CITY LICENSE AGREEMENT. 
          AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL HAVE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL SEAL THE SIGN AND REAPPLY IF NEEDED EVERY FEW YEARS. 
          AND THE FLOODLIGHT BATTERIES WILL LAST ONE TO TWO YEARS AND WILL BE REPLACED FOR THE SMALL COST OF AROUND $15 EACH. 
          SO THEY DO HAVE A MAINTENANCE PLAN. 
          MOST OF IT, VERY NEIGHBORHOOD HEAVY, A CITY STAFF COMMENTS STATE THAT THE SOLAR POWERED LED LIGHTS SHOULD BE OF COMMERCIAL QUALITY BUILDING INSPECTION SAYS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A PERMIT POOL AND ENGINEERING STATES THAT THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING BEING PLACED IN THE MEDIAN, AS WELL AS THE SANITARY SEWER LINE, UM, THAT RUNS DOWN THE CENTER OF THE MEDIAN. 
          AND THEY DO NOT WANT ANYTHING TO GO DEEPER THAN 36 INCHES. 
          AND AS A STANDARD COMMENT, BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUESTING A TREE TO BE INSTALLED. 
          THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY INCLUDED THAT STANDARD LANDSCAPING COMMENT, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD DID RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS STATING THAT THEY WILL NOT BE GOING INTO THE GROUND DEEPER THAN 36 INCHES. 
          THEY WILL PULL THOSE PERMITS AND, UM, THAT PLANTING WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH ANY, ANY SEWER LINES. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UM, THE PROJECT HENDRICK. 
          SURE. 
          AND I SEE THAT, UH, JOE THOMAS, THE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS ON MINE AS WELL. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A 36 INCHES SEWER LINE UNDERNEATH THERE. 
          SO IF THAT EVER HAS TO BE WORKED ON ANYTIME THAT SIDE WILL BE RUDE AND COULD BE DAMAGED POSSIBLY IF THE CONTRACTORS HAVE TO GET IN THERE IN AN EMERGENCY TYPE SITUATION. 
          SO AS LONG AS THEY, THEY KNOW THAT, AND THEY'RE OKAY WITH PUTTING THAT OVER THE SEWER LINE, I SEE ENGINEERING'S OKAY. 
          IT, AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE DEBT REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS AWARE AS WELL. 
          AND OKAY, WITH THAT, GO AHEAD. 
          OR WE HAVE AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER AN OAK TREE IS AN OAK TREES, BIG TREES FEEL LIKE CAPITAL PROJECTS IN SOME WAYS. 
          UM, IT'LL PROBABLY OUTLIVE ALL OF US. 
          UM, 
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BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FALLS ON THE LANDSCAPING LINE, I WOULD SAY. 
          YEAH, SAME ISSUE. 
          ALTHOUGH WITH THIS ONE, UM, RELATIVE TO THE ENTIRE PROJECT, UM, IT'S A LOT, IT'S A LOT LESS THAN, THAN ONE THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE, WHICH WAS SOMETHING LIKE, UH, 20% OR MORE, OR 25% OF THAT ENTIRE PROJECT. 
          THIS ONE WOULD BE LESS THAN A SIGNIFICANTLY, LESS THAN THAT. 
          UM, BUT AT SAME, SAME KIND OF EXERCISE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UH, WITH FINANCE, TO FIRM UP WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO THERE. 
          UM, HAVING SAID THAT THERE'S PROBABLY WAYS WE CAN STILL MAKE IT HAPPEN, EVEN IF IT'S NOT PAID FOR OUT OF CAPITAL FUNDS FOR THE MATCHING GRANT PROJECT. 
          WHEN THE TREE, HOW MUCH IS THE TREE? HOW MUCH IS THE COST OF THE TREE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TOTAL PROJECT? $1,200. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT WAS ABOUT THE SAME. 
          SO LIKE I SAID, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT WITH, OR WITHOUT THE CAPITAL, THE FUN COMPONENT, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE AT SOME POINT WE MAY NEED TO FIRM UP THESE DEFINITIONS. 
          SO IT ISN'T A FIGURING THIS OUT EACH TIME AS WE GO. 
          LIKE, IF WE WANT TO, AT SOME POINT SAY TREES ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT WORKS OR THAT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE DEFINE RELATIVELY MINOR COST IN A, IN AN ACTUAL PERCENTAGE. 
          UM, THAT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DO TO PREVENT THIS FROM BEING KIND OF MADE UP EACH TIME AS WE GO. 
          WELL, I THINK WE SETTLED ON IF IT DOESN'T EXCEED, IF IT DOESN'T EXCEED THE CASH MATCH THAT THE APPLICANT IS APPLYING FOR. 
          SO YOU COULD ARGUE IF, IF, IF SOMEONE MAKES A COMPLAINT, UM, LOOKING AT THE BOOKS ABOUT CAPITAL BEING SPENT A LIVE PLANT MATERIAL, WE COULD SAY, WELL, THE, THE, UH, MATCH THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PROVIDING IT PAID FOR THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING AND THE CAPITAL FUNDS WERE USED FOR THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PROJECT. 
          THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE VOLUNTARY ONES THAT ARE UNDER 10,000 IT'S 100%. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PART I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE, ON, ON THE MATCHING PIECE OF IT. 
          IF THAT, THAT, I GUESS THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE, YOU KNOW, IF IT FALLS UNDER THE COMMUNITY MATCH, IS THAT, IS THAT OKAY? CAUSE WE'RE STILL APPROVING A PROJECT THAT INCLUDES THAT, BUT PUTTING THAT ASIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT SOME THAT, THAT INDICATES THAT THESE TREES HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO LIVE 480 YEARS OR MORE. 
          SO I DO FEEL THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE GROUND COVER OR SAGE BUSH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, AND WHATEVER YOU GUYS THINK I'M FINE WITH. 
          UM, I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS REQUIRED THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RAISE THE MONEY FOR THE TREE, THAT THEY, THEY PROBABLY COULD KICK IN A FEW BUCKS, FOR SURE. 
          WELL, AND WE AS A CITY GIVEAWAY THREES WITH OUR TREE POWER GIVEAWAY EVERY YEAR. 
          SO THERE MAY BE, MAYBE WE HAVE A THREE D MR. HESTER, DO WE HAVE A TREE THAT WE CAN GIVE AWAY? I THINK THAT'S PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT GIVES AWAY THE TREES. 
          IT IS, UM, THEY WERE ALL COLLECTED LAST SATURDAY, EVERY ONE OF THEM, BUT I'M SURE WE COULD MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN IF WE NEEDED TO. 
          THAT SOUNDS EVEN BETTER. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL COMMITTEE, WHAT IS YOUR, UH, WHAT IS YOUR DESIRE IN THIS ONE? IT LOOKS, I MEAN, TO ME, THIS LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT. 
          UM, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD. 
          DO WE WANT TO PUT AN ASTERISK BY THE OAK TREE THAT INSTEAD OF THAT BEING COMING OUT OF OUR POCKET, THAT THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, THEY SHOULD APPROACH PARKS FOR? I JUST KNOW THAT IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC TYPE OF TREE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST HAVE ONE OF THOSE LAYING AROUND OR WE EVEN GIVE THOSE AWAY. 
          SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO PUT AN ASTERISK NEXT TO THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, I'D LOVE THE IDEA OF THIS MONUMENT SIGN. 
          I THINK THAT THE COVID MEMORIAL IS A GREAT IDEA AND I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, BUT I THINK THAT JUST THE CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE THE PAYMENT GOES FOR THE LANDSCAPING 
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WHERE'S THAT LINE. 
          AND AS FAR AS NO MATCH ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE TO HOLD OFF ON THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, DO WE WANT TO REDUCE THIS, UH, APPROVE THIS, BUT WITH THE REDUCTION OF THE $1,200 FOR THE TREE AND SEND THE MESSAGE THAT THEY SHOULD PURSUE OTHER AVENUES FOR GAINING THE TREE, WHICH WOULD CONSULTING WITH OUR PARTS DEPARTMENT, THAT'D BE AN ACCEPTABLE MESSAGE TO SEND FORWARD. 
          YES, I THINK SO. 
          AND THEN SCOTT, I'M SURE HE SAID HE CAN TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT AS WELL AS THE PARKS AND HIS DEPARTMENT WORKING TOGETHER. 
          I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THEM SOMETHING. 
          I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, KATIA, DO YOU HAVE THE DETAILS OF THAT? AND SCOTT? OKAY, MOVING ON. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT IS PECAN GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          THIS PROJECT NAME IS AN ARTFUL OUTCOME. 
          THE LOCATION IS NEAR 38 58 SOUTH GLEN BROOK DRIVE. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECT COST OF THIS IS 13,975, AND THIS IS A VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          SO IN THE GUIDELINES, IT SAYS THAT YOU CAN BE REIMBURSED UP TO $10,000 FOR THE PROJECT. 
          HOWEVER, EVERY DOLLAR THAT THE PROJECT EXCEEDS 10,000 REQUIRES A 25% MATCH. 
          SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY $993 AND 75 CENTS. 
          AND THE CITY WOULD BE PAYING A TOTAL OF $12,981 FOR THE PROJECT. 
          SO THEY ARE WANTING TO INSTALL AN ORIGINAL METAL STEEL SCULPTURE ABOUT NINE TO 11 FEET TALL WITH A FOUR TO SIX FOOT WIDE BASE. 
          THIS WOULD SERVE AS A WELCOME TO NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS. 
          AND THE SELECTED ARTIST IS LAURA WALTERS WHO HAPPENED TO GROW UP IN GARLAND. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY FUN. 
          AND THE SECOND IMAGE IS A PICTURE OF MS. WALTERS WORK AND WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE INSTALLED AT THAT ENTRANCE. 
          THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR THIS SCULPTURE, AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL WORKING OUT THOSE DETAILS. 
          UM, BUT SO THIS IS A, A CITY PARK AND THIS IS THE GPL STATION. 
          SO WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT WHERE, UM, THIS COULD FIT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS THEY DO HAVE THAT BIT CON GROVE ENTRY SIGN JUST WHERE MY CURSOR IS MOVING BACK AND FORTH OR ABOVE THE WORDS FIRST OPTION. 
          SO THE PROJECT GOALS WITH THIS IS TO IMPROVE DIVERSITY ENGAGEMENT, BEAUTIFICATION, AND COMMUNITY SERVICE FROM THE APPLICATION. 
          THEY WRITE FUTURE MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO BE LOW. 
          UH, ONCE THE SCULPTURE IS INSTALLED, OCCASIONAL SCULPTURAL INSPECTION, JUST IN CASE, UM, THERE'S DAMAGE TO IT. 
          UM, REMOVAL OF GRAFFITI, UH, COULD BE NECESSARY. 
          IT, OR IT COULD BE REMOVED COMPLETELY IF THERE IS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE, BUT, UM, THAT'S THE MAINTENANCE THAT THEY WROTE AS FAR AS CITY STAFF COMMENTS, PARKS VOTE, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE A CONCRETE PEDESTAL TO MOUNT THE SCULPTURE ON BUILDING INSPECTION SO THAT THEY NEEDED SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS SCULPTURE IN ORDER TO, UM, COME TO THE CONCLUSION, IF A PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED AND ENGINEERING RIGHTS THAT A LICENSE AGREEMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          ENGINEERING STATES THAT THEY LIKE THE THIRD OPTION, THE BEST, WHICH IS ON GP AND L PROPERTY, BECAUSE OPTIONS ONE AND TWO ARE IN A FLOOD ZONE. 
          AND G P AND L IS PREFERRING THAT THE STRUCTURE REMAINS OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY. 
          SO AS STATED, WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT WHERE THE SCULPTURE COULD GO. 
          UM, BUT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE BASE IS TALL ENOUGH SO THAT IF THE PARK DOES FLOOD, THE SCULPTURE ISN'T AFFECTED AT ALL. 
          SO THAT IS ALSO A POSSIBILITY. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THOSE KINKS. 
          UM, BUT WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PECAN GROVE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, NO QUESTIONS. 
          I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. 
          I, I REALLY LIKED, UM, I THINK BRINGING PUBLIC ART AROUND THE CITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW TIMES. 
          AND SO, 
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UM, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE, UH, THIS TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY, UH, PROJECT. 
          I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ENTRY WAY TO THE CITY, AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LOCATION SHOULD BE, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT DECISION, BUT I THINK WE'LL BE GREAT THERE WITH, WITH THE WORK THAT'S COMING IN, LAWN WIND PARK RIGHT THERE. 
          I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL SEE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS. 
          SO, UM, I KNOW SOME FLOODING CONSIDERATIONS WERE, WERE RAISED. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M, I'M OPEN FOR WHEREVER, HAPPY TO APPROVE IT. 
          AND WITH THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE WHO KNOW THINGS, FIGURE OUT WHERE IT OUGHT TO GO, OKAY, COUNCILMAN HEDRICK, ARE YOU GOOD AT THIS? SIMILARLY, YOU KNOW, JUST FINDING LOCATION IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. 
          I LOVE THE CONCEPT OF PUBLIC ART AND LOCAL ARTISTS, ESPECIALLY. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          LOCAL IS GREAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          ALL RIGHT, GOT YOU. 
          THAT ONE GOES, SO WE'RE ALMOST DONE. 
          I PROMISE. 
          YOU'RE DOING GOOD. 
          KEEP IT ON. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT IS WING JAMMER. 
          H A Y THE PROJECT NAME IS EROSION CONTROL PROJECT, AND THIS IS NEAR 44 51 POINT BOULEVARD. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECT COST. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE, UM, DUE TO ONE POTENTIAL PR UM, ASPECT OF THE PROJECT PROPOSAL. 
          UM, SO IT COULD BE 18,474 OR 31,632. 
          UM, WITH A 15 OR 20% MATCH, THE CITY WOULD BE PAYING $15,702 OR $25,305. 
          SO THE PROJECT SUMMARY, THEY WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL AN EROSION RETAINING FLOWER BED WITH A STONE WALL, ABOUT TWO FEET TALL IN FRONT OF THEIR PARKING AREA. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THEY'D LIKE TO INSTALL 54 WHEEL STOPS IN FRONT OF THE NEW RETAINING WALL. 
          THEY WOULD LIKE TO BACKFILL BEHIND THE RETAINING WALLS WITH SOIL AND SOD AND UPDATE THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEM TO HANDLE THE NEW WALL WITH THE, THE SOIL AND SOD, ADDITIONALLY, UM, INSTALL OR REPHASE THE FREESTANDING SIGN. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THE PRICE DIFFERENCE COMES IN. 
          AND FINALLY INSTALL A NEW LIGHT POSTS AROUND THE POOL FOR IMPROVED SAFETY. 
          OH, I MISSED ONE. 
          UM, THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INSTALL, UM, ADDRESS PLACE CARDS AND TOPPERS FOR ALL THE UNITS, UM, BELOW ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, ALONG WITH WHAT THE FLOWER BED STONEWALL WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THE, UM, ADDRESS PLACE CARDS AND TOPPERS THE B COMPLEX. 
          SO THE PROJECT GOAL IS TO TACKLE THE, THEIR EROSION CONTROL AND BEAUTIFY THE AREA FOR NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS IN THE APPLICATION. 
          THEY WRITE FOR FUTURE MAINTENANCE WHEN JAMMER H HOA HAS A LANDSCAPE BUDGET AND YOU HIRED MAINTENANCE CREW TO CONDUCT REGULAR VISITS, THE OPPOSITE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY WROTE THAT, UM, WE'RE QUESTIONING THE LIGHT POLE NEAR THE POOL, THE ADDRESS NUMBERING AND CHOPPERS HAVING LIMITED COMMUNITY-WIDE BENEFIT. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THE LONGTERM MAINTENANCE CONCERNS WITH A RETAINING WALL BUILDING INSPECTION SAID THAT A SIGN AND ELECTRICAL PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED IN ENGINEERING. 
          HAD COMMENTS ABOUT A 15 FOOT WIDE UTILITY EASEMENT THAT IS NOT WITHIN THE PROJECT SCOPE, BUT I WANTED TO INCLUDE IT ANYWAY. 
          UM, AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WINDJAMMER HOA. 
          YES. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHERE THIS RETAINING WALL WOULD GO ON THE SITE PLAN THERE. 
          I KNOW YOU SHOWED A PICTURE OF THEIR ENTRANCE, IS IT TO THE SOUTH OF THEIR ENTRANCE THERE ON POINT BOULEVARD? SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          LET ME SHOW YOU SOME, SOME PHOTOS. 
          I DON'T QUITE KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, RIGHT UP AGAINST WHERE THE GUESTS AND RESIDENTS PARK, SO RIGHT ALONG, HERE'S WHERE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING THE EROSION CONTROL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'D BE CLOSER TO THE INTERIOR THERE SITE, NOT ALONG POINT BOULEVARD. 
          NO. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THEY WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL THOSE 54 WHEEL STOPS IN ADDITION TO THE WALL. 
          SO CARS DON'T HIT THE WALL AFTER IT'S INSTALLED. 
          GOOD POINT. 
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I KNOW AS FAR AS SIGN TOPPERS GO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE QUITE FREQUENTLY IN THE PAST FOR VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, COMMUNITY SIGNS. 
          THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT TYPE OF STUFF WHERE IT'S MORE OF A ADDRESS PLAY CARD FOR ALL OF THEM. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COMMITTEE FEELS ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK THAT SIGN TOPPER IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH A CONDO COMMUNITY WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THROUGH STREETS. 
          SO THIS, YOU KNOW, I COULD GO FOR THAT. 
          IF IT HELPS OUT THEY'RE A LITTLE, THEY LOOK A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE CURRENT SIGNS THAT THEY HAVE, RIGHT. 
          AND THE, THE ADDRESS PLACE CARDS WOULD, ARE THE ONES I BELIEVE THAT ARE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR OF THE CONDOS. 
          AND THE TOPPERS ARE THE ONES THAT STATE BUILDING 24 UNITS, ONE THROUGH 50 ARE HERE. 
          SO, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, BUT I GUESS THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. 
          DO WE HAVE A, UM, DO WE HAVE A PRICE BREAKOUT FOR THE LIGHT POSTS AROUND THE POOL? I AM. 
          I'M AGREEING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY SAYING THE LIGHT POLE NEAR THE POOL, THE ADDRESS NUMBER AND, AND THESE TOPPERS, THESE AREN'T STRAIGHT SIGN TOPPERS, LIKE WE'VE DONE IN MANY AREAS OF THE CITY. 
          THIS IS A DIFFERENT ANIMAL, AND THIS WOULD HAVE LIMITED COMMUNITY-WIDE BENEFIT TO ME. 
          I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          SO DO WE KNOW THE COSTS OF THE LIGHT POSTS AROUND THE POOL? WELL, THE TOTAL IS $800 FOR THE POOL LIGHTING PROPOSALS AND THE PRICE DIFFERENCE FOR THE, UM, FREE-STANDING SIGN, PLACARDS AND TOPPERS. 
          UH, SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 1840, 74 AND THE 31, SIX 32. 
          THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE WILL, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO EITHER REPLACE THE CURRENT SIGN OR DEMOLISH THE CURRENT SIGN AND BUILD A COMPLETELY NEW ONE. 
          SO DEFINITELY A BIG PRICE DIFFERENCE. 
          IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DEMOLISHING A SIGN OR REVIEW. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM APPROVING THAT PART MYSELF, THE, THE STONEWALL AND THE WHEEL STOPS, AND A LOT OF THAT, UM, I CAN SEE THAT HAVING COMMUNITY VALUE. 
          UM, I'M CHOKING A LITTLE BIT ON SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, BUT, UM, COMMITTEE, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, A COUPLE, I FEEL SIMILARLY, UM, ABOUT THOSE, I ASSUME THE POOL IS NOT, I MEAN, IT'S A POOL GENERALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          I WOULD GUESS THAT IT'S NOT AS AN HOA POOL. 
          UM, AND SO I KNOW WE HAVE SOME RULES ABOUT DOING IMPROVEMENTS ON, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS ON THE NEXT ITEM AS WELL. 
          WE HAVE ISSUES ABOUT DOING IMPROVEMENTS ON, ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT GENERALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, THE, UH, AND THEN WE ALSO GET INTO THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE FIRST TWO ITEMS ON THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE SCOPE OF THE, DO THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF ENGINEERING OR OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM AND IS THIS WALL GOING TO SOLVE IT BASED JUST BASED ON WHERE THE LOCATE IT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE, I AM A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT THE, THE, THE EROSION ISSUE AND WHETHER A WALL OF SOME HEIGHT WOULD ACTUALLY SOLVE THAT. 
          OR IF THEY'RE BETTER OFF BUILDING OFF, I MEAN, ARE THEY BETTER OFF HAVING SOMETHING THAT DRAINED LIKE SOME KIND OF FRENCH DRAIN OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT DRAINS INTO THE PARKING LOT. 
          UM, AND THEN IF YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT IN 50 SOMETHING WHEEL STOPS TO PREVENT SOMEONE FROM DAMAGING A WALL THAT DOESN'T EXIST. 
          AGAIN, IT JUST GETS BACK TO WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT AND, YOU KNOW, ARE, IS, IS THE PROPOSED SOLUTION THE MOST APPROPRIATE ONE. 
          SO I'D BE, I'D BE INCLINED TO HOLD OVER INDICATE THAT, THAT, UH, THE LIGHT BULB AND, UH, SOME OF THE SIGNAGE AND WHATNOT, IT IS NOT A SUFFICIENT BENEFIT, BUT TO, TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT COUNCILMAN HEDRICK, WHERE ARE YOU ON THIS? I'M LOOKING MORE AT STREET VIEW PAGERS. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THEY JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH POSSIBLY NOT BE ABLE TO GROW TURF IN THOSE AREAS. 
          AND THAT'S CREATE AN ISSUE SLOPE, PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD SLOPE ON TURF. 
          AND IT'S WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, IF HE GROWS IT, WON'T WASH OUT HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE WASHING OUT. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO FIX THAT BY PUTTING A WALL UP INSTEAD. 
          SO SIMILAR WITH THOSE OTHER, OTHER TWO PROJECTS THAT WE LOOKED AT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, EXISTS, WE NEEDED CONFERENCES. 
          THIS WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE. 
          SO 
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I'M FINE WITH HOLDING OFF ON IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU CUT YOU, IF YOU CAN TAKE THIS BACK, I THINK WE'RE SAYING NO TO THE INSTALLING OR REPHRASING THE FREESTANDING SIGN PLACARDS AND TOPPERS FOR THE, AND WE'RE SAYING NO TO THE LIGHT POSTS AROUND THE POOL, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE THINGS ARE NOT, UM, COMMUNITY WIDE BENEFIT. 
          THAT'S NOT, BUT THE EROSION CONTROLS, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME REPORT, UM, THAT WOULD INDICATE TO US THAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. 
          YEAH. 
          I WANT SOMEONE TO COME BACK TO US IN TWO YEARS SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A BUNCH OF ROCKS AND YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OOPS. 
          LET ME JUST OAKS, YOU KNOW, THEY SUCK UP A LOT OF WATER. 
          UM, OKAY, NEXT PLEASE. 
          SORRY. 
          REAL QUICKLY. 
          WAS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT BEING A CONDO COMMUNITY IS, IS THAT WE CHECK WITH LEGAL, THERE'S A LEGAL ISSUE. 
          I WAS JUST FOR FEE AND I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED THIS BEFORE, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, UM, A CONDO COMMUNITY APPLYING, THEY ARE LEGITIMATE HOA, SO THAT'S WHY LEGAL IS OKAY WITH IT. 
          SO I'M JUST WONDERING FOR THE FUTURE. 
          UM, IS, IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS THERE, BUT AS LONG AS IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER THINGS BENEFIT THE PUBLIC IN ARE GENERALLY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE. 
          IF IT WAS A, IF IT WAS A GATED CONDO COMMUNITY AND THEIR DOG WAS DOING SOMETHING INTERNAL, I MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK IT'D BE CASE BY CASE, BUT, OR ANY GATED COMMUNITY FOR THAT MATTER. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME OTHER GATED COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST CONDOS, BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR A LANDSCAPE BENEFIT THAT ONLY THE FOLKS WHO LIVE THERE CAN, CAN SEE OR DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, OR THEN I HAVE, I THINK I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, BUT OKAY. 
          DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SCOTT? OKAY, GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL LAST ONE. 
          YAY. 
          SO LAST ONE IS TRAILS RECREATION, CLUB, PROJECT NAME, TENNIS, UM, AREA RESTORATION. 
          THE LOCATION IS AT SEVEN 25 TRAILS PARKWAY. 
          THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $143,000 AND A $140. 
          SO THE REQUESTED AMOUNT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM THEY COULD HAVE, UM, WITHIN THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD RULE, WHICH WOULD BE $70,000, $70,050. 
          UM, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PAY $73,094. 
          SO AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECT HISTORY AS JUST LAST YEAR, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TRAILS RECREATION CLUB IN 2015, THEY WERE APPROVED FOR SPEED HUMPS THAT COSTS THE CITY OF GARLAND, JUST OVER $1,500. 
          AND IN SPRING 2019, THEY APPLIED FOR A NEW COMMUNITY SIGN, NEW LANDSCAPING IRRIGATION OUTSIDE OF THEIR CLUBHOUSE, WHICH WAS APPROVED AND COMPLETED. 
          AND THE CITY OF GARLAND PAID 20 ALISON $428 FOR THAT PROJECT. 
          AND TONIGHT THEY ARE HERE TO REQUEST TO RESURFACE AND RESTRIPE THE PARKING LOT AND SIX TENNIS COURTS TO INCLUDE PICKLE BALL. 
          THEY WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL A STRONG CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND THE TENNIS COURT, REMOVE THE DEAD BUSHES AROUND THE TENNIS COURTS AND REPLACE WITH NEW AND WITH NEW BUSHES AND IN A BETTER LOCATION. 
          AND FINALLY RESTORE THE OVERHEAD LIGHTING WITH TIMERS TO CONSERVE ENERGY AND TO ALLOW TENNIS PLAYERS TO PLAY AT NIGHT. 
          UM, THESE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM MY SITE VISIT. 
          UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSAL. 
          WE HAVE A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS HOA OWNED. 
          THE PROJECT GOAL IS TO IMPROVE A GATHERING SLASH ATHLETIC SPACE FOR NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS. 
          AND WITHIN THE APPLICATION, THEY WROTE THAT THE TRAILS HAS A LANDSCAPE BUDGET AND A HIRED MAINTENANCE CURT TO REPLACE THE PLANTS AS NEEDED AND TO CONDUCT REGULAR VISITS FOR FUTURE MAINTENANCE. 
          SOME STAFF COMMENTS PARKS HAD A LOT TO SAY TALKING ABOUT THE CHAIN LINK FENCE, AND THEY RECOMMEND RESURFACING WHILE THE CHAIN LINK FENCE AND NETS ARE REMOVED. 
          UM, THE PUSH BUTTON TIMERS MAY BE A GOOD OPTION FOR LIGHTING. 
          SO AUTOMATICALLY WE'LL TURN OFF AND 
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TALK. 
          ADDITIONALLY, TALKING ABOUT WINDSCREENS WOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO INCREASE FUNCTIONALITY AND PRIVACY FOR THE PLAYERS. 
          AND FINALLY THEY RECOMMEND THAT THE EXISTING VEGETATION, UM, BE REMOVED, UM, FOR BOTH, UM, LONGEVITY AND OF THE NEW FENCE MESH THAT IS GOING UP. 
          IF NEW VEGETATION IS GOING TO BE PLANTED, LOCATE THEM AT THE PROPER DISTANCE FROM THE FENCE BUILDING INSPECTION STATES THAT, UM, THERE WAS NO PERMIT REQUIRED FOR THE FENCE. 
          HOWEVER, AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED. 
          THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY MENTIONED THAT IN THE GUIDELINES, IT STATES A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN ONLY RECEIVE $100,000, UH, EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          AND WITH THE PROJECT HISTORY, IF THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED AT FULL, THEY COULD NOT APPLY AGAIN UNTIL SPRING 2024. 
          UM, ALSO THIS FACILITY IS SEMI-PUBLIC WITH A $5 FEE, UH, TO ENJOY THE AMENITIES THAT THIS CLUB HAS TO OFFER BOTH, UM, INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. 
          AND, UM, I ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND CONDUCTED SOME SITE VISITS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THE TENNIS COURTS MIGHT HAVE BEEN, UM, RESURFACED ALREADY. 
          AND ON FACEBOOK THEY'RE PROMOTING, UM, THEIR NEW LANDSCAPING AND THEIR NEW TENNIS COURTS BEING RESURFACED. 
          SO SOME QUESTIONS HAVE, UM, BEEN BROUGHT UP AS TO DID THEY ALREADY COMPLETE THESE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, AND FINALLY, PER THE GUIDELINES, IT DOES STATE THAT REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING FACILITIES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE AS WELL AS LIGHTING UPGRADES OR SECURITY CAMERAS. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'D BE PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAILS RECREATION CLUB. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD DETECTIVE WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THANKS. 
          OR MAYBE I NEED TO STAY OFF FACEBOOK. 
          NO, YOU DID GOOD. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU HAVE A, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE HAD EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS, I GUESS LAST YEAR ABOUT, ABOUT THEIR PREVIOUS APPLICATION. 
          UH, AND IN MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT WE EXPRESSED SOME, SOME CONCERN THERE, SOME THINGS THAT THEY LIKE, THEY WANTED TO PUT THE PHONE NUMBER OF THE CLUB ON THERE AND OTHER STUFF. 
          AND MY RECOLLECTION IS WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT WAS NOT A PUBLIC CLUB AND THEN IT MIGHT BE SEMI-PUBLIC. 
          SO, UH, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM THERE, BUT WITH THAT CERTAINLY A CONCERN THAT, UM, THAT IT DOESN'T MEET THE DEFINITION OF, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO, TO FACILITY THAT'S ACCESSIBLE, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED TO STAFF TALK TO LEGAL OR TALK TO ANYONE ELSE ABOUT, ABOUT WHERE WE SIT ON THAT. 
          I MEAN, ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S, YOU KNOW, $5 TO GET IN THERE OR WHATEVER I WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I HAVE BILL ENGLAND. 
          HE'S WANTING TO KNOW IF PEOPLE SPEAK IN BREAKFAST. 
          UM, THAT'S UM, THAT'S PROJECT EVERYTHING. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          HI BILL. 
          I CAN HEAR YOU. 
          CAN EVERYONE ELSE HEAR YOU? YES, YOU'RE QUIET, BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SURE. 
          I CAN DO THAT. 
          SO, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THIS COMMITTEE FOR APPROVING OUR PROJECT YEAR. 
          I TOOK OVER THE TRAILS RECREATION CLUB AS PRESIDENT AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMUNITY TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, BECAUSE THIS FACILITY HAD COMPLETELY JUST DISINTEGRATED. 
          AND I'VE BEEN WORKING AVIDLY WITH MY TWO PROPERTY MANAGERS TO, UH, VASTLY IMPROVE THE FACILITY, UH, RAISING MONEY, PRIMARILY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FROM RENTALS OF THE FACILITY TO MAKE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WE DID DO A, A MAKESHIFT IMPROVEMENT OF THREE OF THE COURTS BACK IN JULY, THE TENNIS COURTS TO SEE IF THAT WAS GOING TO BE A VIBRANT SOMETHING EVERYONE WANTED CAN USE. 
          AND IT WAS, UM, HOWEVER, WHAT WE DID WAS A VERY SHORT TERM, UM, IT HAS TO BE RESURFACED AND IT HAS NOT BEEN RESURFACED. 
          I HEARD EARLIER, UM, THAT YES, KATIA 
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HAS SEEN WHAT WE DID THERE, WHICH IS BETTER THAN WHAT WAS THERE. 
          BUT IF YOU GO WALK IT YOU'LL SEE IT NOT A GREAT, UH, THEY'RE NOT GREAT TENNIS COURTS. 
          WHAT WE COULD DO, BECAUSE THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF WHETHER TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL WERE GOING TO BE VIABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS YES, THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF DEMAND FOR IT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RESURFACING, ALL SIX COURTS FOR BOTH OF THOSE SPORTS, UM, HAVE, UH, KATIA MENTIONED, THE LANDSCAPING IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD BOARD IS NOT GOING TO CONSIDER GOING FORWARD. 
          SO WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD ON LANDSCAPING, UM, ON OUR OWN. 
          AND WE TOOK THAT OFF OF OUR PROPOSAL WHEN WE REVISED IT. 
          UM, SO, UH, BUT OTHERWISE THIS IS, THIS IS THE CENTER OF A HUGE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE HAVE TWO HOS AND WE HAVE A, UM, I THINK AT THE HOUSING, UM, HOMES IN THE AREA AND THIS SUMMER WITH, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE DONE TO THE POOL AND THE FENCING, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAFE. 
          WE HAD RECORD MEMBERSHIP, WE HAD A RECORD NUMBER OF PEOPLE COME AND USE THE FACILITY. 
          AND MANY OF THEM ASKING ABOUT TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL AND OUR, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE OTHER THREE COURTS? AND WE KIND OF TOOK A STRAW POLL AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. 
          THE COMMUNITY WANTS TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO HIM. 
          UM, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE HELP OF THIS, UM, BOARD THIS COMMITTEE, BECAUSE IT WILL ACCELERATE, UH, GIVE DELIVERING THAT TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          BUT, UM, DETERMINATION TO MAKE THIS, THE, THE FOUNDATION, THE HEART OF THE TRAILS COMMUNITY WILL GO FORWARD. 
          UNABATED. 
          WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR HELP BECAUSE THIS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO GET TOGETHER. 
          THEY WANT TO HAVE A PLACE TO SWIM, TO BRING THEIR KIDS. 
          UH, IT USED TO BE A THRIVING FACILITY WHEN I MOVED INTO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN 2004 AND IT HAS BEEN, IT WAS ALLOWED TO DECLINE AND NOW I SEE IT STARTING TO THRIVE AGAIN. 
          AND SO MY COMMITMENT TO MY NEIGHBORS, TO MY COMMUNITY AND TO THE CITY FOR THAT MATTER IS TO MAKE THE RECREATION CLUB SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU COME TO IT, YOU'RE PROUD OF IT. 
          YOU WANT TO COME BACK AND IT'S A PLACE WHERE KIDS CAN GET TOGETHER AND HAVE FUN NEIGHBORS CAN BE NEIGHBORS. 
          SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S MY SPIEL ON IT. 
          UM, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          COMMITTEE. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BILL? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, THE SEMI PUBLIC, WHICH IS ALSO SEMI-PRIVATE, UM, IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY ONES THAT WE, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THIS, UM, THE REQUEST WAS FOR HELP AROUND THE POOL, BUT IT WAS THE SAME ISSUE IS THAT THIS WAS A SEMI-PUBLIC POOL THAT REQUIRED DAILY COSTS. 
          IT WASN'T ACTUALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND WE DECLINED AS I RECALL ANYWAY, TO, TO ACT BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          AND I SEE FROM THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PER OUR GUIDELINES, REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING FACILITIES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE, WHICH, UH, I'M LOOKING AT THIS THAT WOULD BE, I WOULD ASSUME RESURFACING IS A REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE RE STRIPING. 
          THE PARKING LOT, UM, WOULD SEEM TO BE REPAIR MAINTENANCE, UM, REMOVING DEAD BUSHES AND REPLACING WITH NEW BUSHES IS LANDSCAPING THAT WE'RE NOT GENERALLY DOING WITH THIS. 
          AND, UH, LIGHTING UPGRADES, UM, ARE ALSO INELIGIBLE. 
          SO THE RESTORE OVERHEAD LIGHTING WITH TIMERS KIND OF FALLS UNDER THAT HEADING TOO. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO SEE WHAT IN THIS WOULD BE OF COMMUNITY-WIDE PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT WE COULD CONSIDER COPING WITH. 
          UM, AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT, UM, THAT THE RECREATION CLUB IS WANTING TO THRIVE AND FLOURISH. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR ROLE APPROPRIATELY SHOULD BE WITH THAT, SEEING AS HOW IT IS A CLUB AND NOT AN, A PUBLIC COMMUNITY, SO OPEN TO DISCUSSION. 
          UM, YEAH, I, I THINK PART OF THIS ALSO IS OBLIGATIONS OF OUR, UM, TO OUR BOND HOLDERS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT DRIVES THE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY LIMITED AND SO WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, EVEN IF WE WANT IT TO IMPROVE IT. 
          I'M NOT 
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SURE THAT WE COULD FROM A, FROM A FINANCE OR LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. 
          UM, I, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT A LARGE CHARGE AND THEY DO SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHATNOT. 
          UM, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE WE STAND FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE ON APPROVING THAT THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO HELP ON THIS. 
          UM, UM, UH, TRY TO SEE IF I CAN, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY BE, UM, THIS MAY BE IN A CDBG AREA, UM, WHICH WOULD, WHICH WOULD ALLOW POSSIBLY, UH, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE CITY TO ALLOCATE FUNDING THROUGH, THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, AS OPPOSED THROUGH THIS. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO, UM, TO THINK ABOUT AND POSSIBLY LOOK AT, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING SURE WE MEET THOSE OBLIGATIONS. 
          I DON'T KNOW MR. BALLINGER, OR KACHA, HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT THAT OR TALK TO ANYONE IN, IN LEGAL OR FINANCE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, JUST BASED ON YOUR CONVERSATION LAST TIME I DIDN'T FOLLOW UP ON IT, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS A, THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY SETTLE AND WHERE THE OTHER, BUT, BUT YEAH, WE, WE JUST DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T LOOK IT UP. 
          I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T ASK LEGAL LAST TIME BASED ON THE CONVERSATION FROM, FROM THE LAST TIME THEY WERE APPROVED, RIGHT. 
          UM, I'VE PULLED UP THE VERY EXCELLENT CDBG CITYWIDE CITY BEACH CDBG MAP THAT MR. BALLINGER PUT TOGETHER A FEW MONTHS AGO AND IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE IN A CDBG AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE CHAIR'S PLEASURE IS. 
          UH, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO AT LEAST GETTING A STRAIGHT UP OPINION FROM FINANCE OR BOND COUNSEL OR, OR CITY ATTORNEY OR SOMETHING ABOUT WHERE, WHERE THIS FALLS. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME BRIGHT LINE RULES GOING FORWARD AND MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE PEOPLE SOME TIME. 
          I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT AND GETTING, GETTING CLARITY FOR, FOR MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK WHAT WE DID LAST TIME WAS WE, WE APPROVED THINGS THAT WERE, UM, OF VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY LAMP. 
          I, WHATEVER THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE THAT PEOPLE DRIVING PAST WOULD ENJOY, UM, AND BENEFIT FROM, BUT NOT THINGS THAT WERE INTERNAL THAT WERE BEHIND THE PAYWALL, UM, EVEN, UH, EVEN A SMALL $5 A DAY PAYWALL AS A PAYWALL. 
          SO, UM, COUNCILMAN HEDRICK, IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, I THINK KATYA, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GO AHEAD AND HOLD THIS BACK. 
          UM, DO SOME CONSULTING WITH LEGAL AND, UM, GET SOME BRIGHT LINES AS COUNCILMAN, ALL THEM SAID, GET SOME BRIGHT LINES DRAWN ABOUT WHAT IS, AND IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE OF OUR FUNDS FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT WAY YOU WON'T HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          CAUSE THERE'S NO SENSE IN LETTING THIS JUST KEEP GOING ALONG IN A, IN A VAGUE WAY, WE NEED TO NAIL IT DOWN. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT GETS SOME, AND IT MAY BE THAT FOR EXAMPLE, THE FENCE IS APPROPRIATELY FENCE EXTENSIVELY PROTECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM AARON COUNT AND TENNIS BALLS. 
          AND MAYBE THE DEFENSE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO. 
          BUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS AREN'T, I'M HAPPY TO BE CREATIVE ABOUT. 
          I DO WANT TO SUPPORT, UH, I DO WANT TO SUPPORT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUPPORT THE VITALITY OF IT. 
          I THINK THAT, UH, UM, I THINK THAT THE, THE CENTER IS IMPORTANT FROM A VITALITY STANDPOINT. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE OPERATE WITHIN PROPERLY WITHIN OUR CONSTRAINTS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WELL THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE TO BRING BACK TO YOU. 
          AND, UM, SO WE'LL PROBABLY BE SCHEDULING ANOTHER MEETING HERE, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. 
          AND, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE ONES THAT WERE APPROVED, UM, MOVING FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND THEN THE ONES THAT WE'D LIKE MORE RESEARCH ON, UM, WE'LL BE SCHEDULING ANOTHER MEETING FOR NO, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME FOR THAT LONG. 
          WOW. 
          I NEED TO, I HAVEN'T TALKED THAT MUCH IN A LONG TIME. 
          YOU DID GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, SCOTT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED FROM US, CORRECT? I THINK SO. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH AND APPRECIATE IT. 
          BYE LET'S. 
          GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE, THE COMMUNITY PARKS POLICY DISCUSSION. 
          IT 
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IS, UM, FIVE 25 AND WE HAVE A MEETING TONIGHT AND I WOULD LIKE SEVERAL OF US TO BE ABLE TO EAT DINNER. 
          SO ANDY, NO PRESSURE, BUT YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF US WHO ARE HUNGRY AND WOULD REALLY LIKE TO EAT BEFORE. 
          SO GET IT. 
          I HAVE A FOOTBALL GAME TO MAKE AS WELL FOR MY SON. 
          SO, UH, SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UM, KIND OF JUST AROUND THIS TOPIC. 
          I DON'T KNOW, UM, WHAT THE DELIVERABLE IS THAT YOU NEED FROM ME IMMEDIATELY, BUT I KNOW THAT THE MASTER PLAN ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS RELATED TO PARKLAND ACQUISITION. 
          UM, AND SO I CAN JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY REMIND EVERYBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A VARIETY OF PARK CLASSIFICATIONS AND THEY GO MINI PARK, NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, COMMUNITY PARK, REGIONALS, ET CETERA. 
          AND THEY ROUGHLY DEFINED KIND OF A SIZE OF PARK. 
          UM, THE MINI PARK IS, IS DEFINED AS LESS THAN TWO AND A HALF ACRES OF DEVELOPED PARKLAND. 
          UM, AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAST TIME THAT ANYTHING KIND OF MUCH LESS THAN THAT AROUND AN ACRE OR SO IT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE THEM IN THE PARK SYSTEM. 
          SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE CLASSIFIED AS A MINI PARK. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, DORFMAN GRISMAN ROSS, UH, WHY WOULD WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF OTHERS? AND THEN THERE'S A HANDFUL OF THEM THAT ARE CLOSER TO TWO AND A HALF ACRES. 
          SO IF, IF THE GOAL IS TO LOOK FOR A POLICY TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY THAT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TRICKY. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME PRESCRIPTIONS IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, UM, LAND ACQUISITION STRATEGIES. 
          OUR PARK SYSTEM IS LARGE. 
          THE CITY IS LARGE, BUT IT IS, IT STILL HAS ROOM TO MEET SOME GOALS RELATED TO PARKS SPACE. 
          SO ACQUISITION NEEDS TO BE A STRATEGY FOR SURE THAT WE LOOK AT, SO THE MASTER PLAN PRESCRIBES AND ONE OF ITS RECOMMENDATIONS, AND MAYBE THIS IS WHERE THE SUBCOMMITTEE INTENDS TO, TO TAKE THIS IS TO DEVELOP THEM, IMPLEMENT A PROCESS, TO EVALUATE HOW AND WHETHER POTENTIAL PROPERTIES MAY MEET THE CURRENT OR FUTURE NEEDS OF PARK AND NATURAL AREAS PRIOR TO ACQUISITION. 
          UM, SO IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO GO, WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          IT'S ON OUR TO-DO LIST AND WE COULD MOVE IT UP THE LIST, UM, IN THE SHORT-TERM WHEN WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT PARKLAND ACQUISITION, NO MATTER WHAT THE SIZE IS, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. 
          AND I'LL READ OFF A FEW THINGS JUST FROM OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT, WHERE WE TAKE OFF FROM IS THE FIRST THING WE DO IS WE LOOK AT MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          DOES IT FIT THERE? UH, DOES IT HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES? WHAT'S THE RECREATIONAL VALUE POTENTIAL OF IT, UH, COMPARED TO THE MAINTENANCE COSTS, WHAT'S THE ACCESS, UM, IS ACCESS SAFE? WHAT ARE THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE RELATED TO THE ACQUISITION? THEN WE LOOK AT THE EQUITY MAP AND THE PRIORITY INVESTMENTS OUT OF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TARGETING THOSE UNDERSERVED PLACES FIRST, IF POSSIBLE. 
          UM, AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT TOUCHES ON ZIAD MADE A GREAT POINT TALKING TO HIM TODAY ABOUT IT. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE THE ONLY VEHICLE THAT THAT HANDLES ACQUISITION, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE, UM, ENGINEERING AND PLANNING CAN CERTAINLY BE A CATALYST FOR ANY TIME THAT THERE ARE VARIANCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED. 
          THE CITY MAY IN TIME REQUESTS, SOME, SOME LAND OR LINKAGES OR TRAILS, AND THEY DO THAT. 
          BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO UPGRADE THAT CONVERSATION WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLANNING SO THAT WE CAN TELL THEM WHAT OUR PRIORITY INVESTMENT ZONES ARE. 
          AND IF THEY SEE AN OPPORTUNITY, NOT ONLY CAN THEY MAYBE GET LAND DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE, BUT THEY MAY ALSO BE ON THE HOOK TO MAINTAIN IT. 
          SO LOTS OF ARROWS IN OUR QUIVER WHEN IT COMES TO PARKLAND ACQUISITION. 
          UM, SO HOPEFULLY THAT KIND OF ANSWERED THE DIRECTION THAT THE COMMITTEE'S WANTING TO GO WITH THIS, IF NOT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, AND DO YOU HAVE SPECIFIC THINGS? I HAD SOME COMMENTS, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, GO FIRST, I THINK IT'S A GOOD, I THINK WE SAID IT WAS GREAT IF WE START DEVELOPING A POLICY ON ACQUISITIONS. 
          AND IF THEY, I KNOW THOSE PARKSVILLE AT THE VERY BOTTOM END OF OUR SPECTRUM, AS FAR AS PARK SIGNS GO ACCORDING TO OUR MASTER PLAN. 
          BUT IF THERE'S SOME CRITERIA AROUND IT, AS FAR AS, LIKE YOU SAID, IS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP COSTS, THAT WE MAY BE THE ONGOING COST OF THOSE, THIS LITTLE POCKET TYPE PARKS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO ADD SOME OF THOSE AND HE HAS SOME GOOD CRITERIA ON HOW TO EVALUATE POTENTIAL SITES. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ALSO WORTH A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO ESTABLISH SOME ADDITIONAL ORDINANCES OR OTHER THINGS TO BETTER ALLOW US TO, TO, TO DO THESE KINDS OF THINGS OR TO TAKE DONATIONS OR TO OTHER THINGS. 
          I MEAN, THE, THE, THE REALITY 
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IS THAT, UM, WE HAVE SOME AREAS THAT ARE UNDERSERVED, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY BUILT OUT, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET SERVICES TO THEM WITHOUT HAVING, WITHOUT, WITHOUT LOOKING AT ACQUIRING RELATIVELY SMALL PARCELS IN BEING STRATEGIC ABOUT IT. 
          OR, AND THERE MAY BE SOME, I MEAN, AS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, AS I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RIDGECREST ENGLISH, THE STATE'S NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS, UH, GOD, 900 OR 1200 HOMES THAT, UH, THAT HAVE NO PARK FACILITIES AT ALL, AND IT'S FOUNDED BY MAJOR ROADS, IT'S FOUNDED BY GARLAND MILLER, SHILOH AND KINGSLEY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR PLACES LIKE THAT, WHERE IT'S LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET CREATIVE ABOUT GETTING PARK SERVICES. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE VERY UNLIKELY TO EVER HAVE THE KIND OF PARK SERVICES THAT WE HAVE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO STRATEGICALLY LOOK AT HOW TO, HOW TO ACQUIRE AND HOW TO PROGRAM THOSE. 
          AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          I THINK SOME OF THAT OPPORTUNITY COMES WITH, WITH REDEVELOPMENT ALSO, SO THAT AS REDEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, THOSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT KIND OF KNOW IN THE BACK POCKET, HEY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE PARKLAND ALONG WITH THIS REDEVELOPMENT AND CAN ADVANCE THAT ISSUE. 
          AND WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES TOO, THAT THE OTHER, WE HAVE, WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE, UM, THAT ARE OWNED AT LEAST NOMINALLY BY THE CITY OR BY MULTIPLE ENTITIES THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR NON-PAYMENT OF TAXES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE STRUCK OFF TO US THAT, THAT, THAT WE CAN USE. 
          AND AGAIN, NONE OF THAT'S OPTIMUM, BUT, UM, YOU MIGHT, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO STRING TOGETHER A FEW AND START PUTTING SOME, SOME SMALL MICRO DEPARTURE OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL THEM, UH, IN SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND IDEALLY YOU, LIKE, WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, SMALL PARCELS, LIKE THAT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC, BUT WE CAN RUN THEM THROUGH THIS CHECKLIST OF THE ISSUES. 
          YOU KNOW, THE CRITERIA THAT I JUST RATTLED OFF, AND IF WE CAN SOLVE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND ACCESS OR NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORS, UM, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO SAY, NO, WE SHOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING UNDER AN ACRE WHEN THE DAY ARISES THAT, OH, WE HAVE A NEED FOR UNDER AN ACRE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND VIOLATE OUR OWN POLICY. 
          SO WHAT'S ABILITY, I THINK MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, I WAS JUST GOING BACK OVER OUR MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH. 
          AND WHAT, WHAT WE ASKED MR. HESTER IS THAT YOU BRING BACK TO US, UM, SOME VISUAL MAPS THAT WE COULD, UM, IT WOULD HELP US DETERMINE AREAS WHERE POCKET PARKS ARE NEEDED ACROSS THE CITY. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE MOSTLY YOUR RED, RED ZONES, AND FOR YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE MINIMUM SIZE OF THE POCKET PARK, THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE AMONG THE THING AMONG OUR, OUR ASKS LAST MONTH. 
          SO, UM, I THINK IN THIS CASE, WE ARE LARGELY TALKING ABOUT THE SMALLER POCKET POCKET PARKS, UM, WHICH CAN BE ANYTHING FROM ONE VACANT LOT AS COUNCILMAN ALVIN WAS TALKING ABOUT TO, TO SEVERAL THAT ARE, UM, WHERE HOUSES ARE, ARE ACTUALLY REMOVED THAT ARE DECAYED. 
          AND I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THAT ALL OVER, HAVING NOTES ALL OVER SOUTH GARLAND AND MOST OF CENTRAL GARLAND. 
          SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT I AM HOPING FOR IS THAT WE CAN STEP AWAY FROM, WE CAN DO SOMETHING BEYOND AN OPPORTUNISTIC APPROACH WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, WITH THE CITY STRIKING OFF THIS, THIS HOUSE, WELL, SHOULD WE, WOULD THAT WORK FOR A POCKET PARK? I WOULD RATHER HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE WHERE WE HAVE A STRUCTURE TO CONSIDER IT LOGICALLY AND SAY, OKAY, IN THE ALMOST LIKE CDBG ZONES, WHERE, WHERE WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, THESE ARE ZONES WHERE THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          THIS WOULD BE WHAT SUCH A PART WHO WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT WOULD BE EASY TO MAINTAIN IT, YOU KNOW, CHECKLISTS, UM, A BASIC TEMPLATE. 
          SO, SO WHAT, WHAT I WOULD, AGAIN, LIKE TO SEE, COME BACK TO US IS, IS AT LEAST THE BEGINNING OF, UM, SOME KIND OF A TEMPLATE SHOWING THE PLACES WHERE THIS WOULD BE THE MOST LIKELY, UM, WOULD BE THE MOST LIKE LIKELY BENEFIT. 
          AND ALSO FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER AN ACQUISITION POLICY THAT WOULD, UM, BE GUIDED BY ALL OF THOSE FACTORS. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. 
          AND IF WE COULD, UM, REVISIT THIS IN THE NEXT MONTH AND, AND, AND JUST SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, I HAVE SEEN POCKET PARKS THAT ARE FULLY HARDSCAPED. 
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UM, THESE, THESE AREN'T PARKS, THE WAY WE THINK OF PARKS, THEY AREN'T SWING SETS. 
          THEY AREN'T PICNIC BENCHES. 
          THESE ARE WORK, UM, CAFE SIMILAR TO THE SQUARE. 
          IN SOME WAYS THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE SEATING. 
          UM, A LOT OF THEM HAVE BRICK WORK, SO THERE'S, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE MOWED. 
          UM, IT'S A PLACE IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERING PLACE WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS CAN GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A MEETING PLACE THAT'S OUTDOORS IN A, YOU KNOW, SMALLISH AREA. 
          SO, UM, I'VE SEEN EVEN WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO US TONIGHT, THERE THEY'RE A LITTLE COMMUNITY AREAS. 
          SO I THINK WHEN WE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT POCKET PARKS, WE NEED TO KIND OF CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY AREAS MIGHT BE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY POSSIBLY TALKING ABOUT, UM, AS IT AS AT LEAST ONE OPTION. 
          SO, UM, COUNCILMAN ALBAN AND COUNSELOR HENDRICK HENDRICK, DID THOSE, DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? SO IF I COULD CLARIFY ON THE MAP GUIDANCE, UM, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THOSE, WE KIND OF ASSUMED THAT THE MASTER PLAN DOES ADDRESS THE PRIORITY INVESTMENT ZONES AND THE EQUITY ZONES ARE FAIRLY DELINEATED IN WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION IN ADDITION TO THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF A LOT OF THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LEGWORK, UNLESS SOMEBODY BROUGHT SOMETHING TO US THAT, HEY, HERE'S A, HERE'S A PARCEL. 
          AND WE ARE AWARE OF A COUPLE THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. 
          UM, BUT AS FAR AS THAT, THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE WOULD DO IS START SEARCHING IN THOSE AREAS OF THE PRIORITY INVESTMENT ZONES, THE RED AREAS ON THE MAP THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT BECOMES KIND OF VERY HIGH ON THE LIST OF ANY KIND OF ACQUISITION. 
          AND THEN IF SOMETHING POPS UP IN THAT AREA, THEN WE WOULD THEN RUN IT THROUGH THE CRITERIA, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT PARCEL HAVE THE RECREATIONAL VALUE VERSUS THE NEGATIVE IMPACT IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD?  SO, YES. 
          WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, AND YES, THE MASTER PLAN HAS THE RED ZONES. 
          IT HAS, IT HAS THE BASIC INFORMATION FOR THAT. 
          SO THE, THE QUESTION WOULD BE ALMOST PRIORITIZING EVEN WITHIN THAT. 
          SO WHERE, WHERE ARE THE AREAS OF MOST GREATEST NEED? SO WE HAVE A LOT OF AREAS THAT HAVE A LOT OF NEED, WHERE ARE THE AREAS THAT ARE THE MOST CRITICAL, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF MONEY. 
          WE'RE NOT, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE CAN JUST START BUYING PROPERTIES HERE AND THERE NOW. 
          BUT IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT, WHAT AREAS OF OUR CITY, AND IT MAY BE AS, AS COUNCILMAN ALDEN SAID, IT MAY BE IN, IN SOME OF THESE LARGE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE LANDLOCKED BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH HIGHWAYS, UM, WHERE ARE THE AREAS THAT WOULD BE OUR, SAY TOP THREE TARGETS THAT ARE THE HIGHEST NEEDS THAT WE COULD KIND OF NARROW DOWN OUR FOCUS AND SAY, OKAY, THE, THESE AREAS, UM, WE CAN START THERE IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          UM, DOES HE HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT OR, OR NO, I THINK HE'S ON THE LINE. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M STILL HERE. 
          HELLO EVERYBODY. 
          UM, I KNOW I'VE BEEN ASKING MYSELF THAT SAME QUESTION, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE MASTER PLAN WAS ADOPTED AS IS WHERE TO START, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE MAP IS, UM, IS SCATTERED WITH, YOU KNOW, CONCENTRATIONS OF, UH, BREAD, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          AND, UM, I'M, I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE, UM, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE TO TRY TO, UH, ATTEMPT TO PRIORITIZE WHERE TO START. 
          I MEAN, SOME OF THE, UH, BOND PROJECTS THAT, UM, ARE, UH, HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THEN ARE UNDERWAY, WE'LL ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE AREAS. 
          UM, BUT AS MR. ROBIN BROUGHT UP IN THAT ONE AREA IN RIDGECREST IT'S, UM, UH, IS IT RACHAEL CREST OR PARK CREST? I CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          I KNOW THERE'S WELL, THE PARK KRISTA ELEMENTARY IS THE SCHOOL THAT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE RICH GRASS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I SEE. 
          SO IT ALL KIND OF FITS IN THERE AND THERE ACTUALLY ARE SOME, WE SHOULD SIT DOWN AND TALK BECAUSE THERE'S SOME, THERE'S AN INTERESTING OPTION OVER THERE. 
          I GUESS WE COULD TALK ABOUT NOW, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE REALLY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, I DO, BUT, UM, UM, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU ALL HAVE A MEETING TO GO TO, BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH SOME IDEAS ON PRIORITIZATION BECAUSE, UM, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE, MAYBE THERE MAY BE SOME AREAS OF THE CITY THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE AS, 
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UH, GREAT IN SIZE COMPARED TO SOME OTHER AREAS, THEY MAY BE NO LESS, YOU KNOW, IN NEED OF SOME SOCIAL SERVICES, SO, OR, OR, OR CITY SERVICES. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT DISCUSSION AND, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON, ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO, TO ADVANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO COUNCILMAN ALBAN AND HENRIK, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT US JUST SAYING FOR THE SAKE OF, UH, BRINGING THIS OUT OF THE CLOUDS AND PUTTING IT INTO A FOCUS AREA, SAY, SAY PICK THE FIVE, MOST, THE FIVE AREAS OF GREATEST NEED AND LIMIT THOSE AREAS. 
          DO WE WANT TO LIMIT THEM, UM, IN SIZE TO SAY SOME OF THE AREAS ARE SPRAWLING? MOST OF THE RED THOUGH WERE, ARE LIMITED IN INSIGHTS. 
          SO DO WE WANT, DO WE WANT IT TO ASK FOR THE FIVE AREAS OF GREATEST NEED THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED BY THE BOND AND TO HAVE THOSE COME BACK FOR US TO, TO START LOOKING AT THEM FOR, UM, WITH THE INTENT TO COME UP WITH, UH, ACQUISITION POLICY AND JUST NAME THOSE AS BEING OUR TOP FOUR ARE OUR FIRST FIVE FIRST FIVE TARGETS. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DO YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA? DO WE HAVE TO COUPLE THE FIVE AREAS WITH THE ACQUISITION POLICY? I THINK WE CAN BE A COUPLE OF THOSE, LIKE I WAS SAYING EARLIER AND HAVE JUST A POLICY THAT APPLIES TO CITYWIDE, WHETHER IT WOULD HAVE GOOD OPPORTUNITY, NO MATTER WHAT AREA IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I, I AGREE WITH DYLAN ON THAT. 
          I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED A POLICY AND THEN IN PERHAPS A TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL, IT'S LIKE, HERE'S YOUR PROPOSED POLICY. 
          AND, UH, AND, AND WHAT ARE THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN THE TOOLBOX, UH, WHETHER THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ACQUIRE, HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THESE, HOW DO WE ACQUIRE THESE? HOW DO WE ACQUIRE THEM BY DONATION ALL SO THAT WE'VE COVERED ALL OF THE, THE ISSUES AND WHETHER YOU CAN TAKE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE WE WANT TO, UH, AS WE GET INFILL DEVELOPMENT, HOW DO WE WANT TO INTERACT WITH INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND, AND USE OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT MEAN YOU CAN GET PRETTY FAR DOWN IN THE WEEDS, BUT I THINK HAVING THE HOLISTIC POLICY IS PROBABLY THE FIRST STEP AND THEN BRING THAT OUT TO, OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY PLACES THAT WE'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND AS, I MEAN, AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, W WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE THINK IN? AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY A GOOD THING TO ALSO KICK OVER TO, UH, TO OUR PARKS BOARD, TO INTERFACE WITH OUR PARKS BOARD, TO GET THEIR OPINIONS ON, ON PLACES AND NEEDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. 
          WE HAVE SOME AREAS OF VERY PARTICULAR NEED THAT ARE NOT IDENTIFIED ON THE MAP, OR THAT WE HAVE SOME REAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE NOT IDENTIFIED ON THE MAP. 
          YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, OVER IN EASTERN HILLS, I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION THERE IS THAT THEY, I MEAN, THEY HAVE ONE PART, UM, BUT I THINK THEY SUFFERED THE FATE SIMILAR TO RICH GRASS, WHICH IS WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED FOR SOME REASON. 
          AND I AND JERRY CARTER CAME AND SPOKE TO, UH, COUNCIL AT SOME POINT ABOUT THIS ISSUE. 
          AND HE'S, HE'S LIKE, YEAH, FOR WHATEVER REASON IN THE SIXTIES OR SEVENTIES OR MID SIXTIES, WHEN, WHEN SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE DEVELOPED, IT WAS LIKE COUNCIL WAS ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL AND THEY WEREN'T REQUIRING ANY KIND OF PARKLAND, DEDICATION OR PARK IMPROVEMENTS IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE BEING BUILT. 
          UM, SO WE MAY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE, MY POSSIBILITIES DEVELOPMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THERE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO ENSURE, OR TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY COME UP. 
          SO JUST MY 2 CENTS. 
          OKAY, WAIT, I THINK A PRIORITY IS AN ACQUISITION POLICY AND AN OVERRIDING POLICY. 
          THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL. 
          AND THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO THE STEPS TO, TO GETTING THERE FROM HERE IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO PIN DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE WHAT ARE THE, UM, PART OF AN ACQUISITION POLICY WOULD BE FOR US TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A VISION ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH POCKET PARKS AND I'M CALLING THEM POCKET PARKS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO AND A HALF ACRE PARTS WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MID-SHIFT OPPORTUNISTIC SMALL PIECES OF LAND. 
          UM, AND THOSE ARE GENERALLY IN THE PUBLIC TERM POCKET PARKS. 
          SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND TALKING ABOUT CRAFTING A SOLID ACQUISITION POLICY, THEN I WOULD THINK THAT WE NEED TO START WITH KIND OF DEFINING, UM, DEFINING THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ACQUIRING NORMAL 
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PARKLAND AND BUILDING NORMAL PARKS BECAUSE, UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMEWHAT OUT OF THE, THE RANGE OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. 
          IT SEEMS TO ME. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS, I WAS INTERESTED IN PUTTING MY EYE AND I CAN JUST USE THE MASTER PLAN AND DO THIS ON MY OWN, PUTTING MY EYE ON SOME OF THOSE RED ZONES AND LOOKING AT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND, UM, KIND OF MORE ENVISIONING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET FOR US TO GET FROM HERE TO AN ACQUISITION POLICY THAT WOULD BE USEFUL TO US. 
          SO, UM, AND A LOT OF THAT IS JUST DEFINING THINGS, DEFINING WHAT KIND OF PARK, DEFINING THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH THAT WE WOULD, UM, SAY, OKAY, IT MEETS THESE CRIMES. 
          WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? SO, UM, MR. HAS SIR KEN YOU AND ZIAD, UM, I GUESS START CLOSING IN ON THAT AND BRINGING US FIT THERE'S DECISION TREES. 
          SO, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, UH, APOLOGIZE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT TIDY IT UP THIS TIME. 
          A COUPLE OF REASONS THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A PROVISION FOR A POCKET PARK IN THE MASTER PLAN. 
          SO I THINK YOU RAISED A GOOD POINT. 
          THERE IS A PLACE FOR WHAT'S CALLED SPECIAL USE. 
          SO WE COULD PROBABLY TUCK IT IN THERE WITHOUT A MAJOR REVISION THAT JUST SAYS, POCKET PARKS ARE KIND OF A SPECIAL USE, AND HERE'S THE CRITERIA IN WHICH THOSE ARE DEFINED. 
          AND THEN I HESITATE TO PUT SPECIFIC PARCELS ON MAPS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
          UM, NOT A GREAT TIME FOR FOLKS TO FIND OUT THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN THEIR PROPERTY, BUT, UM, BUT SO WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION IN GIS LAYERS WHERE I THINK WE COULD BOIL IT DOWN TO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE, UH, POINTED. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD BE VERY ANYTHING ELSE CAN BEFORE IT'S TIME TO RUN AWAY AND EAT DINNER AND COME RIGHT BACK AND DO THIS AGAIN. 
          SO, ALL RIGHT. 
          IF THAT IS IT, THEN WE ARE TO NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS ADJOURN. 
          AND SO AT 5:47 PM, UM, WE ARE ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU.
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