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WHEN YOU'RE READY THEN.

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READY? ALL RIGHT.

[Transportation Infrastructure Mobility Committee Meeting on July 19, 2022.]

GET STARTED.

HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE JULY 19TH, 2022 TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY COMMITTEE.

I AM MYSELF, DYLAN HENDRICK.

I'M THE NEW CHAIRMAN FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE TWO NEW MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE COUNCILMAN ROBERT VERA AND COUNCILMAN JEFF BASS, AND WE ALSO HAVE A NEW LIAISON FOR THE STAFF CRYSTAL OWENS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME HER TO THE MEETING AS WELL.

SO YEAH, FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WE'D LIKE TO APPROVE, UH, ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 20TH, 2022 MEETING MINUTES.

I'M LIKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED SEVERAL ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA.

NOW WE HAVE THE FIRST ITEM IS AN UPDATE ON THE STATE HIGHWAY ONE 90 PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE EXTENSION TO MS. OWENS.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I'M BACK IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR, ACTUALLY JUNE 16TH TO BE EXACT, UH, C STAFF CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER MOORE.

WE MET WITH NTTA TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE ON THE CONTINUING EAST BRANCH EXTENSION.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO PROVIDE THIS AFTERNOON IS JUST BASICALLY, UM, A RECAP OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM NTTA ON THAT PARTICULAR DURING THAT PARTICULAR MEETING, UM, I WILL IN FULL DISCLOSURE TELL YOU THAT THIS MAP WAS BORROWED FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT NTTA GAVE.

UM, IF YOU RECALL, THIS IS AN APPROXIMATELY 12 MILE PROJECT AND ITS LIMITS ARE LOCATED BETWEEN H 30 IN GARLAND AND INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 20 AND SUNNYVALE, WHICH BASICALLY STATES AS A RESULT OF THAT.

IT TRANSVERSES, UM, GARLAND THE CITY OF DALLAS SUNNYVALE AS WELL AS MESQUITE.

AND IT CROSSES, UH, BETWEEN DALLAS COUNTY AND KAUFMAN COUNTIES.

THERE ARE THREE MULTILEVEL INTERCHANGES PLAN FOR THIS AT INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 30, AS WELL AS US 80 AND INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 20.

AND THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE MOBILITY 2045 UPDATE.

UM, YOU'LL NOTICE ON, CAN YOU SEE THAT IT'S NOT SHOWING OKAY, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE, UH, MAP THAT THERE ARE TWO ALIGNMENTS THAT ARE SHOWN, YOU'LL SEE THE GREEN ALIGNMENT, WHICH IS, UM, I THINK IT'S ALTERNATIVE.

YES.

THE GREEN ALIGNMENT IS ALTERNATIVE TO THE BLUE IS JUST AN OPTION FOR ALTERNATIVE ONE NTTA HAS STAYED AT BASICALLY THAT THEY HAVE NOT MADE A DECISION ON WHICH ALTERNATIVE THEY WILL GO WITH, BUT IF YOU WERE, UM, IF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS EARLY ON, YOU'LL RECALL THAT THERE WERE ACTUALLY THREE OPTIONS AT THAT TIME AND THEY HAVE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THESE TWO.

HOWEVER, THEY ANTICIPATE THAT, UM, THE ANTICIPATE THAT THE DECISION OR THE FINAL ALTERNATIVE WILL BE DETERMINED BETWEEN THESE, THESE TWO OF THE THREE THAT WERE PRESENTED INITIALLY.

SO AS OF THIS MOMENT, THEY ARE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLAN.

THEY'RE WORKING ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLAN.

AS I STATED, THEY'RE ASSESSING THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT ALTERNATIVES.

THEIR FUTURE PLANS ARE TO HOLD MEETINGS WITH CITIES AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE EVALUATING THE PROJECT ALIGNMENTS.

AND THEN THEIR INTENT IS TO MODIFY THE ALIGNMENTS BASED ON CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AND PROJECTED CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED, OR THAT ARE GOING TO BE OCCURRING IN THE FUTURE.

THEY PLAN TO CONDUCT PUBLIC MEETINGS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UM, THIS ENTIRE PROCESS JUST FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVAL IS ANTICIPATED TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT STAFF DOES HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF BEING ACTIVELY PLUGGED INTO THIS OVERALL DESIGN PROCESS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING WISHLIST, UM, AND WE'LL BE SHARING THAT WITH NTTA.

AND OUR SPECIFIC FOCUS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE ON THE HARBOR POINT AREA.

WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHALLENGES IN THAT AREA, AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT VERY CLOSELY TO GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR THIS EXTENSION COMING THROUGH THAT AREA.

AND THAT REALLY COMPLETES THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM NTTA.

UM, I THINK MY FOCUS REALLY WAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND KIND OF WHAT THE PLAN IS MOVING FORWARD AND THE FACT THAT IT WILL BE AT LEAST ANOTHER THREE YEARS BEFORE THEY'RE EVEN, YOU KNOW, TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROACHING DESIGN.

AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT, IT'S COMING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE CRYSTAL MUTE ON THAT

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PICTURE.

YOU SHOW THE GREEN AND THE BLUE ARE THOSE THE LAST DESIGNS ON THAT? SO THESE ARE THE ACTUAL, UM, I THINK THESE CAME OUT OF AN ALIGNMENT STUDY.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE CAME FROM AN ALIGNMENT STUDY NOW, UM, THE, THE GREEN AND THE BLUE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE GRAIN, THE ONLY PLACE WHERE YOU SEE THE BLUE IS WHERE THERE ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES.

SO LIKE HERE, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE GREEN AND BLUE THEY OVERLAP FOR, FOR THE MAJORITY OF IT, BUT WHERE YOU SEE THE GREEN AND THE BLUE SEPARATE, THAT INDICATES THAT THERE ARE ALTERNATE ALTERNATES FOR THOSE SECTIONS.

OKAY.

I'LL CAN DO, DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE A MORE DETAILED VIEW OF THE PARTS THAT'S IN GARLAND, SUCH AS LIKE WE'RE I DO NOT.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I SEARCHED HIGH AND LOW FOR THAT.

I GOOGLED EVERYTHING I COULD COME UP WITH AND THIS TURNED OUT TO BE MY BEST OPTION.

I AM GOING TO ASK THOUGH, IF I CAN GET SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, VISUALS FROM NTTA AND AS SOON AS I GET THAT, I WILL CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

CAUSE OF COURSE I'M IN THE PURSE.

THAT PART, THAT'S GOING TO CONCERN US MOST OF THE PART THAT'S IN GARLAND AND, AND THAT'LL GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON, UH, OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN THAT AREA, SUCH AS THE WINDSOR BAY PARK.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

THE BLUE ON THE TOP.

IT DOESN'T THAT COME BY WINDSOR PARK? NO, THE VERY TOP IS WINDSURF BAY PARK.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THE VERY TOP WAY UP TOP.

OH, OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

I TAUGHT WHEN I STARTED SEEING THE HAND, I THOUGHT IT WAS AT THAT POINT AND I THINK IT WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY IF I CAN GET SOMETHING THAT FOCUSES MORE ON GARLAND AND I CERTAINLY WILL DO THAT AND GET THAT TO YOU ALL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

CRYSTAL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE ALTERNATE, NEITHER OF THOSE ARE IN GARLAND.

RIGHT.

UM, NOW ONE IS IN SUNNYVALE AND THE OTHER ONE IS IN DOESN'T MATTER, I BELIEVE IT WAS A DOUBLE ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE DALLAS.

YEAH.

SO IT'S, I MEAN, IF, FOR ME IT'S NOT GARLAND, SO YEAH.

SO THOSE DON'T KNOW.

OKAY.

BUT THOSE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH US.

NO, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT IF WE WANT IT TO, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, DIRECT ACCESS TO THE EXTENSION, THOSE KINDS, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AT A STAFF LEVEL AND SHARING THAT OUR REQUEST WITH NTTA YEAH.

WE WANNA LOOK AT HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HOUSE CAN AFFECT OUR PARKS, WHAT OUR EGRESS IS GOING TO BE.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.

I HAD TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT CRYSTAL SAID.

UM, THE, SO THEY'RE KIND OF UP WHERE THE GARLAND SECTION OF THIS IS OUT.

UM, ONE FACTOR WAS THAT IN THE TORNADO OF 2015, YOU'LL RECALL THAT, UH, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX GOT LEVELED, UM, IT'S RIGHT IN THE PATH OF THIS ALIGNMENT AND THEY REBUILT IT BACK THEN.

WE, WE TRIED NOT TO GET IT REBUILT, BUT THEY WENT AHEAD AND REBUILT IT.

SO, UH, THERE'S THAT COMPLEX AND THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE PATH OF THIS.

AND SO JUST CAUTION THE, UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNCIL, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE GOTTA BE SENSITIVE ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE HOMES THAT ARE ON THE GROUND NOW AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS IS REAL HIGH LEVEL FROM NTTA.

UH, THE OTHER IS THAT, UH, WINDSURF BAY PARK, UM, HAS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE WIDTH WAS.

THERE'S A, MAYBE A HUNDRED FOOT, 120 FOOT, UM, 120 FOOT, UM, TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR THAT WAS RESERVED ON THE FAR WESTERN PART OF, OF WINDSURF BAY PARK, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS.

AND SO THIS ALIGNMENT IS WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY.

UH, ANYTHING OF COURSE WE DO WITH WINDSURF BAY PARK, UM, IS GOING TO REQUIRE THE VOTE OF THE CITIZENS TO REMOVE IT, REMOVE IT AS A PARK, IF WE EVEN GO DOWN THAT ROAD.

SO, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE INTERNALLY IS FORMED A KIND OF A STAFF COMMITTEE TO, UH, START DIVING INTO OUR WISHLIST.

THE CRYSTAL TALKED ABOUT, UM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE FRONTAGE ROADS.

IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, INTERCHANGES ACCESS, ACCESS POINTS, UM, FLY OVER RAMPS.

WHAT'S THE PREFERRED OPTIONS FOR THAT.

UM, AND THEN LAND USE IS GOING TO BE THE BIG THING BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS, UH, GOING TO BE A MAJOR INTERCHANGE, YOU KNOW, AT THE, AT THE LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, GEORGE BUSH AND THE NO NORTH TOLLWAY, UM, SAM RAYBURN AND THE NORTH, NORTH DALLAS,

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NORTH TOLLWAY, UH, WHICH REALLY TURNED INTO VERY DENSE DEVELOPED, UM, CORRIDORS AND NODES, UH, OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO WE'D REALLY GOT TO RE-IMAGINE THE WHOLE PENINSULA AND, AND THIS WHOLE INTERCHANGE AND WHAT HAPPENS AROUND THERE.

SO IT'S, IT'S AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY, UH, DEFINITELY A LONG RANGE OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE'VE GOT TO START ASSEMBLING OUR, OUR WISHLIST NOW TO, TO PREPARE FOR THAT.

SO, UH, ALL THAT'S IN THE WORKS.

OKAY.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

UM, JUDD MENTIONED THE 120 FOOT CORRIDOR ALONG IN ONE SURVEY, I IMAGINE, IS THAT ALREADY DEDICATED AS AN EASEMENT THEN FOR TRANSPORTATION? IT IS SO THAT IF SOME, YOU SAID, IF ANY CHANGE WE MAKE TO THE PARK, I'D HAVE TO GO TO THE CITIZENS.

BUT I ASSUME THEN IN THAT CASE, IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEDICATED.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS DONE SOME NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, A PATIENT OF, OF THE GEORGE BUSH COMING THROUGH.

AND THEN IF IT'S GOING TO UTILIZE THAT QUARTER, I IMAGINE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CURRENT AS YOU TRAVELED SOUTH ON THE TOLL WAY.

IT, THOSE, IF YOU'RE GOING DIRECTLY INTO THOSE CURVES SLIGHTLY TO THE LEFT AS YOU'RE TRAVELING SOUTH.

AND SO THAT LINES UP FOR THE ALIGNMENT THAT WOULD GO STRAIGHT THROUGH THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX, YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT IS REBUILT THERE.

UM, OF COURSE THE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU I HAVE IS THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE THEY'RE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PHASE RIGHT NOW, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MEETING SOON WITH THE CITIES.

DO YOU KNOW THE TIMING OF THOSE MEETINGS OR IS IT GOING TO BE DURING THAT AMOUNT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PHASE OR WAIT UNTIL THE THREE YEARS AFTER IT'S OVER? NO, NOT SOON.

OKAY.

THEY, UM, THEY HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY WILL BE SCHEDULING MEETINGS WITH US IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

YEAH.

I'D LOVE TO, OF COURSE BE A PART OF THAT.

AS SOON AS WE FIND OUT THAT THEY'LL HAVE MEETINGS AND I'M SURE MANY SENSES WILL WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT AS WELL.

SO, UM, UH, DO TO KEEP YOU INFORMED.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? UM, ONLY OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION TOO, AND CRYSTAL CORRECT ME ON THE TIMELINE CAUSE WE, WE TRIED TO BACK THEM INTO, OKAY, WHEN WOULD THIS BE BUILT? UH, AND I THINK IT WAS THREE YEARS OF ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVALS, MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OF DESIGN AND RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND THEN FOUR YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EIGHT TO 10 YEARS OUT AND THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IS A REALLY BIG PIECE OF THAT.

YEAH.

SO STILL A WAYS DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT, UH, AS YOU GUYS KNOW ON, ON BIG PROJECTS LIKE THIS, YOU'D START EARLY AND, UH, YOU GET ALL THE INFORMATION, YOU CAN GET A WISHLIST TOGETHER AND, AND, UH, START ADVOCATING FOR GARLAND.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, EROSION PARTICIPATION PROGRAM, AND JUST LET THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS KNOW.

I KNOW THIS FIRST TIME NEW MEMBERS ARE SEEING THESE ITEMS. A LOT OF THESE ITEMS ARE RECAP OF ITEMS THAT WE'VE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, BUT WE'RE PROVIDING AN UPDATE HERE AS WELL TO GET YOU UP TO SPEED FOR THAT.

THIS IS THE EROSION PARTICIPATION PROGRAM, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT.

WHERE'S THE THEY'RE LOCKED UP HERE.

THE MOUSE.

WELL NOT, WE DON'T HAVE A TOUCH SCREEN EITHER.

ALL RIGHT.

NOT PULLING UP THERE.

IT IS.

WON'T SLIDE UP TO THE TOP.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, THE TOUCH PAD DOESN'T WORK, TOUCH PAD.

DOESN'T WORK EITHER.

OH, YOU'RE SO YOU'VE GOT IT ON SPLIT SCREEN IF YOU HIT.

OH, OKAY.

UH, LET'S DO LIFT FIVE.

I KEEP HEARING ABOUT, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

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ALL RIGHT.

UM, I KNOW WE'RE GIVING THE EROSION PARTICIPATION PROGRAM UPDATE.

I'M ALSO, I'VE INCLUDED IN THIS SAME SET, THE FLOOD-PRONE PROPERTIES, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS WELL ON THE AGENDA.

SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO PRESENT BOTH OF THEM AND THEN THEY'LL, UM, WE CAN STOP AFTER ONE, IF WE WANNA HAVE QUESTIONS AND THEN IF WE ARE, WAIT UNTIL THE END EITHER WAY, BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO NEW MEMBERS TO THIS COMMITTEE.

SO I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH AND KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND OF WHERE WE'VE, WHERE WE'VE COME FROM WITH THE, WITH REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ARE ACTUALLY BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. UH, THE COUNCIL ASSIGNED THE EROSION PARTICIPATION PROGRAM TO THE TIM COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 13TH, 2020.

SO WE'RE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS INTO THIS.

UH, PART OF THE REASONING IS, AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, STREET HUMPS.

THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ITEMS THAT THE CAT THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN ADDRESSING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AS WELL AS NOT JUST THE DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION AND THE FLOOD-PRONE PROPERTIES, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS TOO.

SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT IT'S TAKEN.

SO TO THE POINT WHERE, WHERE WE ARE NOW.

SO, BUT EACH, WHEN THE KID, WHEN THE COMMITTEE CAME IN, MET THE FIRST TIME, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE DAY AFTER THIS, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS, WAS SIGNED AND THE COMMITTEE WANTED US TO COME BACK AND EDUCATE THEM ON A LOT OF OUR DRAINAGE ON A LOT OF OUR DRAINAGE PROGRAMS. SO WHAT WE DID OVER THE NEXT TWO TO THREE MONTHS AFTER THAT WAS WE EXPLAINED THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF DRAINAGE PRO PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY HAS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE LISTED.

THERE WAS A LOCAL FLOODING PROGRAMS, CATEGORY CODE A, WHICH HAS WATER IN THE HOUSE DUE TO LOCALIZE FLOODING, WHICH IS NON CREEK.

THESE ARE AREAS OF GARLAND WHERE EMBEDDED WITH THE STORM SEWER SYSTEM WAS A LITTLE BIT UNDER SIZE.

SOME HOUSES MAY HAVE BEEN FLOODING OR DRAINAGE, AN AREA THAT WAS BUILT IN THE FORTIES OR FIFTIES OF, UH, SOME HOMES THAT WERE, WERE JUST IN A DRAINAGE PATHWAY.

UM, AND WE'VE ALLEVIATED MANY OF THOSE SINCE THE 1990S, ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE TWO THOUSANDS, WE'VE ELIMINATED A NUMBER OF THEM.

SOME OF THEM ARE TOO HARD TO DO AND HAVE BECOME LARGER CIP PROJECTS.

UM, HENCE THE PARK MONT PROJECT THAT WE'VE COMPLETED IN A NUMBER OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON THE 2019 BOND PROGRAM.

THERE'S THE M CODE B, WHICH ARE THE EROSION ISSUES ALONG THE CREEKS AND STREAMS, WHICH, UM, TRANSITIONED INTO THE, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS TODAY.

THERE'S CODE C THE PONDING WATER IN THE STREETS AND ALLEYS, WHICH IS EXACTLY THAT WHERE YOU MAY HAVE A LOW SPOT BIRD BATS ALONG THE STREETS.

UM, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY ADDRESSED MOSTLY BY THE STREET DEPARTMENT.

AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED WITH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL CONSULT WITH US.

AND THEN THERE'S A CODE D WHICH HAS WATER AND HAS DUE TO CREEK FLOODING.

THESE ARE ACTUALLY THE TRUE HOUSES THAT ARE IN THE FEMA FLOOD PLAINS THAT ARE, THAT ARE FLOODING.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHERE THE FLOOD PRONE PROPERTY BY OUTCOMES IN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN CODE E, WHICH ARE GROUNDWATER ISSUES.

THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE, UH, SIDEWALKS AND STREETS.

THAT'LL BE SEEPING.

YOU KNOW, WHAT TIMES A YEAR, MAYBE NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT IN THE WET TIMES OF YEAR, UM, YOU'LL SEE WATER SEEPING OUT IN SOME OF THESE AREAS ON THE, IN THE JOINTS OF PAVEMENT OR ALONGSIDE WALKS OR OVERSIDE WALKS, CREATING WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS A SLIMY MESS ON THE SIDEWALKS, THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.

SO WE DO, WE DO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.

IF IT'S ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY SIDE, WE'LL WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO TRY TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THESE GROUNDWATER ISSUES.

AND THE STREET DEPARTMENT'S BEEN VERY ACTIVE WHEN THEY'RE REPLACING STREETS TO INCORPORATE FRENCH DRAIN SYSTEMS AND STUFF INTO THEIR DESIGNS, TO TRY TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE SEEPING ON THE, ON THE STREETS.

SO WHAT WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO, THERE WERE A FEW TWEAKS IN THE CODE, A WATER IN HOUSE THAT THE TIM COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL APPROVED.

UM, AND THEN CODE C AND CODE E BOTH WERE BASICALLY CONTINUE WITH YOUR PROGRAM AS IS, UH, AND THAT'S WHAT THE CA THE WAS REPORTED BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

AND THE COUNCIL AGREED WITH THAT, AND WE MOVE FORWARD.

NOW WE'RE DOWN TO THE CODE B EROSION ISSUES AND THE ROSA PARTICIPATION PROGRAM AND THE FLOOD-PRONE PROPERTIES BY UP THE TIM COMMITTEE REPORTED BACK ON JUNE 20TH.

AND THEN JUST LAST MONTH, THE, ON THE EROSION PARTICIPATION PROGRAM THAT, UM, TO RECOMMEND AN EROSION STUDY OF ALL CREEKS IN GARLAND, UM, GIVING YOU A LITTLE OF BRIEF HISTORY ON THIS, THERE ARE 93 MILES OF CREEKS AND STREAMS IN GARLAND OF THOSE 93 MILES, NINE MILES ARE CURRENTLY PAVED THAT WERE PAID BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES WITH CONCRETE PAVING.

A FEW

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OF THE OTHER CHANNELS HAVE, UM, SOME GRASS CREED OR THE MODULAR BLOCKS IN THEM AND THAT TYPE OF THING, BUT THERE ARE NINE MILES THAT HAVE BEEN PAVED.

THERE'S AN ESTIMATED TWO MILES THAT HAVE BEEN ARMORED EITHER WITH GABIONS ARE RAT BAG WALLS, OR SOME SORT OF MODULAR BLOCK WALL.

AND THEN THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 16 MILES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN GREENBELTS L LONG RALLIES, DUCK AND SPRING CREEKS.

SO THAT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY 66 MILES THAT ARE STILL NATURAL STATE STREAMS AND CREEKS IN GARLAND.

SO YOU DO THE MATH MULTIPLY BY TWO YOU'RE OVER, WHAT IS IT, 132 MILES OF CREEK BANK, IF YOU COUNT BOTH SIDES OF THE CREEKS.

SO GOING OUT AND ACTUALLY, AND THIS IS WHAT THE TIM COMMITTEE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE.

WE CAN'T JUST BEGIN.

ARMORING ALL THE BANKS OF 66 MILES OF BANKS.

THERE'S OUR 132 MILES OF BANKS.

YOU, YOU, YOU RUN INTO A PROBLEM THAT THERE'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE WORLD TO PUT IT THAT.

SO WHAT, UM, THEY DECIDED WAS TO PERFORM AN EROSION STUDY SIMILAR TO ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS OVER IN RO IN RICHARDSON THAT THEY ANALYZE THERE'S ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS, THEY HAVE AN ONGOING STUDY OF THEIR STREAMS AND CREEKS IDENTIFYING, UM, EROSION ISSUES AND, AND KIND OF KEEPING TABS OF WHAT'S GETTING WORSE.

AND THERE ARE SOME AREAS GETTING WORSE.

AND IF SO, DO THEY NEED TO ADDRESS THEM? AND MOST OF IT IS THAT THEY ADDRESS IT.

THE CITY OF RICHARDSON IS JUST THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE.

IF THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE IS THREATENED, WHETHER IT'S A ROADWAY, WHETHER IT'S A WASTEWATER MAIN, WHETHER IT'S, UH, MAYBE AN ALLEY OR, OR EVEN ONE OF THEIR FACILITIES, UH, THEY'LL ADDRESS IT.

UM, AS FAR AS PARTICIPATION WITH PROPERTY OWNERS IN EROSION, ALONG PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THOSE PROJECTS, BUT THEY DO DOCUMENT WHERE THERE ARE PROBLEMS IN THEIR STUDIES.

SO, UM, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED PROCEEDING WITH THE EROSION STUDY, UM, IN, IN DOING THAT, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT MONEY BE SET ASIDE IN THE DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION FUNDS IN THE 2023 CIP, THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL.

AND AT THAT MEETING, THE COUNCIL AGREED AT THAT WORK SESSION WITH THIS, WITH PROCEEDING.

SO STAFF'S NEXT STEPS FOR THE EROSION PARTICIPATION PROGRAM.

ENGINEERING WILL WORK WITH AN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO SOLICIT A PROPOSAL FOR THE EROSION STUDY.

ENGINEERING WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE FUNDING FOR THE EROSION STUDY AS, AS COUNCIL WANTED, UM, IN THE DRAINAGE PARTICIPATION PROGRAM FOR THE 23 CIP AND TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL AFTER ADOPTION OF THE 23 CIP ENGINEERING WILL ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT AND MANAGE THE EROSION STUDY PROJECT.

AND THEN I WILL COME BACK AND UPDATE THE TIM COMMITTEE AS WE PROCEED WITH THE PROGRESS ON THAT STUDY.

SO IF WE WANT TO STOP THERE, THIS IS BASICALLY IN A NUTSHELL WHAT, WHERE WE'VE COME WITH THIS PROJECT.

AND, UM, SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON HOLD TILL WE GET THIS, THIS STUDY PERFORMED.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS ITEM? LET ME JUST TELL THE COMMITTEE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE APPROVED ALREADY TO HAVE THIS STUDY DONE.

UH, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM OF ALL THE EROSION LONG RECREATES CAN, UNTIL WE DO HAVE THIS STUDY DONE.

SO REALLY, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE ON HOLD UNTIL WE KNOW UNTIL WE GET THIS STUDY COMPLETE AND IT LOOKS LIKE 20, 23, RIGHT.

AND PART OF THIS STUDY IS IN THE SCOPE OF THIS STUDY IS TO, IS FOR THE CONSULTANT TO ALSO ADVISE US ON WHAT OTHER OPTIONS DO WE HAVE OTHER THAN ARMORING THE BANK? WHAT CAN WE DO KNOW THAT, UM, FORMER COUNCILMAN ALBAN WAS IN THE MEETING.

HE SAID, W YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME AREAS, MAYBE WE CAN SLOPE THIS BACK, PUT A VEGETATIVE MAT ON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE IT'S NOT SO EXPENSIVE BUILDING JUST GABION WALLS OR OUR RATBAG WALLS, OR TRYING TO HARD ARMOR THE BANKS.

CAN WE USE MORE OF A NATURAL STABILIZATION, SLOPE IT BACK TO WHERE IT'S NOT ERODING AND FAILING.

SO, SO THERE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT INCORPORATED INTO THE STUDY FOR ADVICE ON AREAS THAT WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON M ONE, BEFORE THIS, YOU HAD, UM, THE CREEKS CHANNELS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER ONE, WHAT, WHAT DID CONSIDER A CHANNEL? THE, THESE ARE NATURAL DRAINAGE WAYS THAT ARE, ARE BASICALLY YOUR BANKS ARE WHETHER THEY'RE ROCK OR DIRT, OR JUST BASICALLY A NATURAL CHANNEL STATE AND THE ONES THAT HAVE CONCRETE ON NO, SIR.

THOSE TO CHANNEL THE WATER SOMEWHERE.

NO, SIR.

THOSE, THOSE ARE ALREADY IN OUR SYSTEM AS FAR AS BEING IMPROVED.

AND

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IF THEY NEED REPAIRS IN THAT TYPE OF THING, THEN THERE'S A PROGRAM FOR THE REPAIRS OF OUR, OF OUR CHANNELS LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS FINE, BUT YOU REMEMBER THAT CHANNEL.

WELL, THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO INCLUDE DUCK CREEK AND SPRING CREEK.

DEFINITELY.

THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME AREAS ALONG RELIC CREEK, SINCE IT'S UNDEVELOPED THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXCLUDE, KEEP THE, KEEP THE COST LOWER ON THIS.

AND UNTIL THAT'S AREAS DEVELOPED, THERE'S REALLY NO SENSE IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS BEING STUDIED, BUT MOSTLY DUCK CREEK AND SPRING CREEK, WHERE EVERYTHING IS DEVELOPED AND THEIR TRIBUTARIES, EVEN THAT THEY GO UP INTO THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT COME OFF THE SIDES OF THE, OF THE CHANNEL THEY'RE OFF A DUCK CREEK AND THE MAIN CHANNEL, UM, ALL THOSE THAT GO THROUGH ENGLISH ESTATES AND, AND EVEN BACK UP IN YOUR DISTRICT, COUNCILMAN THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF SMALL CHANNELS THAT, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE NAMES I'M KEEN BRANCH, I THINK IS ONE OF THEM.

WELL, LIKE LAST NIGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE ON WILLIAMS STATE WHERE ALL OF THAT, UH, THE EPA CAME LAST NIGHT AND, UH, BROUGHT US UP TO DATE ON WHAT THEY'D DONE AND EVERYTHING OF QUESTION.

OKAY.

MICHAEL JUST WENT.

SO, UM, IN THE AREAS OF WORK THAT ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE STUDY, DO, OKAY.

SO DO WE HAVE LIKE, ARE THERE HOS THAT OWN PARTS OF THE CREEK THAT, OR AS, AS EVERYTHING INCLUDED, OR THERE ARE POS, THERE ARE POSSIBLY GOING TO BE AREAS THAT THE HOA IS OWNED THE PROPERTIES AGAIN, THE, AGAIN, THE FALL CREEK, ONE THAT UP IN YOUR DISTRICT.

YES.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

AND IN THAT AREA, YES.

THAT IS AN AREA THAT ACTUALLY HAS, UM, HOA OWNERSHIP OF THAT, OF THAT PROPERTY.

YEAH.

SO I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT FALL CREEK AND ABOUT US SPRING PARK.

THOSE ARE THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EROSION ISSUES.

UM, OKAY.

SO THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE STUDY AS WELL.

YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING WHICH YOU REALLY HIT ON, UM, OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS, UM, AREAS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DEVELOPED AND I'M SPECIFICALLY THINKING OF LIKE RALLY CREEK, SOUTH AND BUNKER HILL THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE ONLY, I MEAN, I KNOW IN DISTRICT ONE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE, BUT I MEAN, IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, THERE MIGHT BE OTHER CREEK AREAS THAT AREN'T DEVELOPED.

AND IF, YOU KNOW, PART OF THOSE BEING DEVELOPED IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING HAPPENING WITH THE CREEK.

SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON THOSE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN EVENTUALLY ANYWAY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, THERE ARE A FEW AREAS THAT WE MAY LOOK AT.

I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME AERIAL CROSSINGS OF WASTEWATER MAINS, THAT TYPE OF THING, CITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CROSSES SOME OF THESE CREEKS IN THESE UNDEVELOPED AREAS.

AND WE PROBABLY WILL STILL LOOK AT THOSE CROSSINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT, HEY, DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING OUT THERE TO PROTECT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE? THOSE AREAS WILL BE STUDIED, BUT AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE UNDEVELOPED LAND, NO NOW, OKAY.

NOW, ASIDE FROM THAT AREAS AFFECTING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, WILL WE BE, UM, WHOEVER'S PERFORMING THE STUDY, WILL THEY BE COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER, OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS IN THOSE AREAS, OR, UM, AS FAR AS THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, UM, MOST OF THE AREAS THAT WE ARE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE STUDYING ARE PROBABLY THE MOST, OR ARE ALL FULLY DEVELOPED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR REAL, OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS, IS WITH THE AREAS THAT ARE FULLY DEVELOPED THAT ARE HAVING THE EROSION PROBLEMS, THAT THE COST PARTICIPATION PROGRAM IS TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE CITY ON A 50, 50 BASIS, UM, CASE IN POINT THERE'S SOME UP, I KNOW ON THE NORTH END OF TOWN WHERE THE CHANNEL IS 20 FEET DEEP INTO ACTUALLY ANY KIND OF REVETMENT IS ALMOST MORE, IS ALMOST MORE COSTLY THAN THE HOME ITSELF.

AND THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO LOOK AT IS WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THOSE AREAS.

AND CAN'T WE DO ANYTHING TO ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM AND HELP THESE PROPERTY OWNERS.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT FOR THE EROSION STUDY TO KEEP THE COST DOWN ON IT ONLY STUDY THOSE AREAS THAT WERE NEED AT THE MOST.

YES.

OKAY.

COOL.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S UH, THAT'S OUR PLAN IS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A MAP AND GO THROUGH IT.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME, SOME GREENBELT AREAS THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK AT AS WELL, BUT THOSE ARE ISOLATED AREAS AS WELL.

AND THEN WHAT, OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT.

SO THIS HAS GOT TO WAIT UNTIL 2023 FOR THE CIP TO GO THROUGH AND SEE.

OKAY.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE WHILE, UM, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE TEACHER.

YEP.

ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE FLOOD-PRONE PROPERTIES BY UP THE CITY, UM, CONTRACTED ACTUALLY WITH POTATO COKE AND CONSULTING FIRM TO ASSIST THE CITY WITH DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE AND OPERATION GUIDELINE FOR THE FLOOD-PRONE PROPERTIES BUYOUT PROGRAM.

UH, THIS IS HOPEFULLY AS FAR AS TO KEEP EVERYONE ON TASK AND KEEP US MOVING FORWARD, WE FELT IT WAS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD BY HIRING SOMEBODY TO HELP US AND ASSIST US WITH WE,

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THIS IS SOMETHING NEW TO GARLAND.

IT'S A WHOLE NEW PROGRAM.

WE WE'VE HAD, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING BEFORE WE HAVE IT NOW, AND TRY TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT CONFORMS WITH THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY RECOUP COSTS OR GET COSTS UP FRONT TO HELP US WITH THESE BUYOUTS FROM A FEMA STANDPOINT.

SO THEY HAVE MATCHING FUNDS, OR IF NOT, IN SOME CASES, THEY'LL PAY UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT DEPENDING ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY, ANYWHERE FROM USUALLY 75 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF COST PARTICIPATION ON THESE PROJECTS.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR PROVISIONS SO THAT WE CAN APPLY FOR THE FUNDS.

AND THEN, UM, SO FAR WE STARTED THIS, I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN WE ACTUALLY SIGNED THE CONTRACT, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH TWO ROUNDS OF REVIEWING THESE GUIDELINES, AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE.

WE SET BACK OUR COMMENTS AT THE END OF JUNE, WE, I THOUGHT WE MIGHT HAVE THE INFORMATION READY TO GO FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING, BUT WE WILL HAVE SOMEBODY HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING IN AUGUST.

UH, THE CONSULTANT WILL BE HERE AND WE'LL PRESENT SOMETHING ON THESE GUIDELINES AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE AT THAT TIME TO THE TIM COMMITTEE.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN PRESENT IT TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL SHORTLY THEREAFTER.

THAT'S THE PLAN.

SO, UM, WITH THAT DEPENDING ITEMS SUMMARY, AGAIN, THE EROSION PROOF PARTICIPATION PROGRAM, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ON THE 2023 CIP AND THEN THE FLOOD-PRONE PROPERTIES STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT ARE SCHEDULED TO PRESENT AT THIS MEETING IN ANOTHER MONTH, ON AUGUST 16TH TO PRESENT THE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE GUIDELINES.

AND THAT MAY HAVE SOMEWHAT OF DISCUSSION WHEN WE GET INTO IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD THUS FAR, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY INCLUDED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS CHIMED IN INCLUDING, UM, ACTUALLY I WANT TO GO BACK, MAKE SURE I GET ALL THE, THE WE'VE INCLUDED OF COURSE, ENGINEERING, PUBLIC AND MEDIA RELATIONS, HOUSING, COMMUNITY SERVICES, PARKS IN NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY.

THEY ALL MAY HAVE SOME SORT OF A PART OF THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, DEPENDING ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING PURCHASED.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL HAD SOME KIND OF INPUT INTO THIS GUIDELINE, AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE.

SO WE'VE INCLUDED ALL OF THEM IN THIS AS FAR AS THE REVIEW PROCESS.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS.

EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION ABOUT THINGS AND WE'RE ALL GETTING ON THE SAME PAGE.

SO, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN ENLIGHTENING CAUSE YOU DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT SOME OF THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS VESTED INTEREST WAS UNTIL YOU START TALKING TO THEM.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS MIKE.

YOU BET.

ALL RIGHT.

THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS A REVIEW OF THE CS CLASSIFICATION UNDER THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM OF THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE.

AND I HAVE SOME INFORMATION I, I F EVERYONE MAY REMEMBER.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER ON THIS.

I GAVE A PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY ON THE CRS PROGRAM.

I DO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE IF WE NEED TO RUN BACK THROUGH THAT, OR, BUT I COULD GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

WE CAN LOOK, I'LL TELL YOU I SUFFER FROM CRS.

ALL RIGHT, WE CAN, WE COULD RUN OVER THAT REAL QUICK.

I HAD THAT ED, I WON'T GIVE THE LONG PRESENTATION THAT I GAVE AT THAT MEETING, BUT, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN RUN BACK THROUGH IT REAL QUICK.

BUT BACK ON FEBRUARY 28TH, THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM IS A NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.

UM, IT'S A VOLUNTARY INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT THE CITIES, A LOT OF CITIES PARTICIPATE IN THIS THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND EVEN AROUND THE COUNTRY.

AND, UM, WHAT THEY DO IS IT ENCOURAGES AND RECOGNIZES COMMUNITY FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.

THE MORE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU DO TO REGULATE YOUR FLOOD, PLAIN DEVELOPMENT IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN REMEDIATION OF, OF, UM, FLOOD PRO PROJECTS, THAT TYPE OF THING.

UM, YOU ACCUMULATE, UH, BASICALLY POINTS FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT YOU PUT IN PLACE FROM THE POINT NUMBERS.

IT CREATES A RANKING SYSTEM OF, AND THIS IS, UH, I'LL SHOW YOU THE SLIDE HERE IN A SECOND.

UM, THAT'S JUST A BRIEF HISTORY.

IT TAKES INTO EVERYTHING FROM STORMWATER AND FLOODING EDUCATION, JUST EDUCATION OF FLOOD PLAINS, UM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANS, FLOOD MITIGATION, PROJECT STORMWATER MAINTENANCE, ADDRESSING CITIZENS, FLOOD RISK INQUIRIES,

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AND YOU'LL CITY PRESS PUBLICATIONS AS WELL AS ANNUAL NOTIFICATION TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND HIGH RISK AREAS.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, UM, AT THE, AT THE MEETING IN FEBRUARY, THIS FIRST NOTE UP HERE, FEMA PUBLISHED A 641 PAGE CRS COORDINATORS MANUAL IN 2017 AND A SUBSEQUENT 68 PAID TO DENIM WAS PUBLISHED IN 2021.

IT'S A VERY LONG LENGTHY DOCUMENT.

AND I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU, IF, IF YOU SUFFER FROM INSOMNIA TWO MINUTES WITH THIS AND YOU'LL BE ASLEEP, PROBABLY.

SO IT, IT A VERY LENGTHY DETAILED MANUAL AND IT'S IN IT'S AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE, BUT EACH ACTIVITY IS WORTH A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF POINTS AND THE POINTS ARE TOTALED.

AND THEN A CLASSIFICATION IS DETERMINED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF POINTS.

THIS IS THE POINT CLASSIFICATION, UM, RANKING ONE FROM 10, ONE BEING, UM, BASICALLY NUMBER ONE AND 10 BEING 10, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN DECLINING ORDER, BUT THE, THE POINT VALUES GO UP.

THEN THE CLASS, IT BECOMES LESS, BUT THE HIGHER THE CLASS, THE MORE OF A DISCOUNT THAT YOUR PROPERTY OWNERS GET WHEN THEY'RE PAYING THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS. SO CURRENTLY GARLAND IS, HAS 1,647 POINTS AS OF 2021.

WE'RE WORKING WITH FEMA OR EXCUSE ME, THE, WITH OUR, UM, RISK PROVIDER AND IN SPECIALIST.

AND SHE'S TRYING TO HELP US SHAVE OFF SOME MORE POINTS OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY DO AT THE CITY, BUT HAVE NEVER ACTUALLY REPORTED IT TO GET THE POINTS APPLIED TO OUR NUMBER.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN GET FURTHER DOWN TO HOPEFULLY WHERE WE CAN GET INTO THE 2000 OR THE 24 99 RANGE WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN BE MOVED TO IT.

WHAT WOULD THEY CALL IT? CLASS SIX, WE'RE CURRENTLY A CLASS SEVEN AND OUR CONSTITUENTS IN GARLAND THAT ALL PAY FLOOD INSURANCE ARE RECEIVING A 15% DISCOUNT ON THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS BECAUSE THE CITY PARTICIPATES IN THIS PROGRAM.

WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN PROBABLY GET, NOT THINK WE CAN GET TO A SIX.

WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING WITH OUR ADVISOR ON FRIDAY IN A SKYPE MEETING.

AND SHE'S GOING TO BE WALKING US THROUGH FOR A COUPLE HOURS TO SEE WHERE WE CAN WAIT.

WE CAN PULL INFORMATION TOGETHER TO GET BACK TO HER.

OUR SCHEDULED SLATED REVIEW WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AUGUST 22ND, UM, FOR OUR FORMAL REVIEW WITH HER, UM, SHE'S REQUESTED A DELAY UNTIL SEPTEMBER BECAUSE SHE HAS A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES IN, IN THE METROPLEX AREA THAT SHE WANTS TO COME VISIT ALL AT ONCE.

SO IT'S, IT WILL BE AN IN-PERSON VISIT THIS TIME AND SHE'S GOING TO SLATE A DAY FOR EACH CITY.

SO SHE WOULD LIKE US TO WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

AND SHE SLATING US WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES THAT TO, TO COME IN AND VISIT WITH US ON OUR, ON OUR CRS AND OUR POINTS.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN KEEP GETTING HER INFORMATION TO PULL TOGETHER OF THINGS THAT WE ALREADY DO TO HEART, HOPEFULLY SHAVE SOME POINTS AND ADD POINTS TO THIS.

AND SO, UM, HOW WE COMPARE AND I HAD THIS AS A SLIDE LAST TIME, HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE METROPLEX.

UM, THERE ARE 11 CITIES THAT HAVE A BETTER CLASSIFICATION THAN GARLAND STATEWIDE HERE IN THE METROPLEX.

THERE ARE, ARE FOUR CITIES THAT HAVE, UM, A BETTER RANKING THAN THE S THEN GARLAND, THAT WOULD BE DALLAS GRAND PRAIRIE CARROLLTON, ARLINGTON.

UM, AND THIS WAS AS OF, AS OF, UM, EARLY, EARLY THIS YEAR.

SO WE DO RANK REALLY WELL.

IF WE CAN GET DOWN TO A SIX, WE'LL BE IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS CARROLLTON AND ARLINGTON WITH THEIR PROGRAMS. AND IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME MORE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, UM, THAT WE NEED, UM, BUILDING INSPECTION TO BE INVOLVED IN AND A FEW OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

AND THAT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO COORDINATE, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THOSE IS THAT WE CAN REQUEST A SUBSEQUENT RECLASS IF WHEN, IF, AND WHEN WE GET THOSE, UM, IMPLEMENTED, ARE THOSE, THOSE ITEMS, ITEMS IMPLEMENTED.

WE CAN REQUEST A RECLASS AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR FIVE YEARS TO GET RECLASSIFIED.

SO WE DO HAVE TO BE, IF WE, IF WE MOVE DOWN TO A SIX, WE HAVE TO BE IN THAT SIX POSITION FOR ONE FULL YEAR BEFORE WE CAN REQUEST A RECLASS, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN ACHIEVE BOTH OF THESE, BUT IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET DOWN TO THE FIVE WHERE THERE'S ANOTHER, THERE'S A FEW MORE MOVING PARTS THAT WE NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THAT.

UM, ARE, AGAIN, THIS WAS, THIS WAS LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE HAD A COMING UP IN AUGUST OF OUR MEETING AND IT'S BEEN PUSHED BACK TO SEPTEMBER.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, RICH AUBIN HAD REQUEST HAD REQUESTED THE PERSON COME IN AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION.

AND

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AFTER WE GET THROUGH OUR RECLASS REQUEST IN, IN THIS BASICALLY ASSESSMENT FROM, FROM FEMA, THEY GIVE US A FIVE-YEAR BASICALLY, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR, UM, AUDIT, IF YOU WILL, OF OUR PROGRAMS, UM, THEN WE'LL HAVE THEM HOPEFULLY COME IN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN, SHE, SHE OPERATES OUT OF LOUISIANA, SO SHE MAY HAVE TO SKYPE IN OR SOMETHING, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT AFTER WE GET THIS, ALL THE DUST SETTLES A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS RECLASSIFICATION AND ALL THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, THAT WE CAN GET HER ON TO GIVE A PRESENTATION TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AT A WORK SESSION AND, AND EDUCATE US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT WE DID AND WHERE WE GONE AND, AND, AND HOW WE ACHIEVED WHAT WE DID AND WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.

SO, BUT THAT, THAT WAS BASICALLY A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT IN AS FAR AS THE UPDATE, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO INFORM YOU OF TONIGHT INSTEAD OF AUGUST 22ND, WE'D BEEN MOVED BACK TO, I THINK TO SEPTEMBER, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE 18TH OR 19TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF OF HER OFFICIAL VISIT, TO COME VISIT WITH US.

AND I, AND HOPEFULLY BY HOPEFULLY AFTER OUR MEETING ON FRIDAY, MAYBE NEXT MONTH, I'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION FOR THIS AS WELL, UM, TO UPDATE YOU ON YEAH.

A QUESTION.

UM, SO I MEAN, NOT IN GREAT DETAIL OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST BROAD STROKES.

WHAT DOES THE PLAN LOOK LIKE FOR GETTING A BETTER CLASSIFICATION? I MEAN, WHAT DO WE HAVE, UH, STEPS IN PLACE, UH, TIMELINE, UH, WHAT, WHAT AT, WHAT ARE OUR GOALS WE MET WITH, UM, WITH HER NAME IS STEPHANIE WEEKS.

WE MET WITH OUR, WITH OUR ADVISOR DOWN THERE IN LOUISIANA THROUGH A SKYPE PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO.

IT WAS AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.

AND SHE WAS WALKING US THROUGH.

WE'VE NEVER HAD ANYBODY THAT ACTUALLY WALKED US THROUGH.

SHE HAS A LITTLE QUICK CHEAT SHEET TO SAY, HERE'S HOW YOU GET ALL YOUR POINTS.

HERE'S WHAT YOU DO.

YOU KNOW? AND SO WE'VE NEVER HAD ANYBODY WORK WITH US, LIKE, LIKE SHE HAS, SHE ACTUALLY WORKED FOR A CITY DOING THIS EXACT THING THAT WE'RE DOING FOR A CITY IN LOUISIANA.

AND SHE WAS SAYING, NO, I PUT THIS TOGETHER MYSELF.

WHEN I WAS WORKING IN LOUISIANA AND EVERYBODY I WORK WITH NOW, I HAND THEM THIS SHEET AND SHE SAYS, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY HAD ANYBODY WORK WITH US TO TRY TO HELP US FIGURE OUT WHERE WE CAN SCORE BETTER ON, ON THEIR RANKING SYSTEM.

SO WE WERE VERY ENCOURAGED BY THIS.

AND SO WITH THAT, SHE WALKED US THROUGH BACK A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO AND SHE SAID, WELL, YOU CAN GET THIS AND THIS.

AND WE SAID, WELL, WE DO THIS WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF IT WAS A STREET DEPARTMENT, DID SOMETHING.

AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE, WHAT WE DO THAT.

AND SHE GOES, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY POINTS FOR THAT.

AND WE SAID, WELL, WHAT DO WE DO TO GET POINTS? WELL, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH MAYBE JUST A LITTLE WRITTEN, UM, OPERATION MANUAL THAT THEY SAY HOW THEY, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING FANCY, JUST AN OPERATION MANUAL TO SHOW THAT THIS IS THEIR OPERATIONS, THAT THEY DO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR FUNCTION, AND WE'LL GET EXTRA POINTS FOR THAT.

AND SO WHEN SHE WAS GOING THROUGH THAT AND WE SAID, WELL, WE DO THAT.

WELL, WE DO THAT.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE ALREADY DO.

IT'S JUST DOCUMENTING IT CORRECTLY AND GETTING THE POINTS FOR IT.

SO, SO LONG STORY SHORT, WE WERE ENCOURAGED WHEN WE FINISHED IT.

CAUSE SHE SAYS, OH, IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL CAN GET DOWN TO A SIX, MAYBE EVEN A FI YOU KNOW, SO SHE WAS REALLY ENCOURAGED BY OUR DISCUSSION THAT WASN'T VERY, BUT NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT ON FRIDAY TO DOCUMENT EXACTLY WHICH ONES WE NEED TO SEND HER AND WHAT WE NEED TO PUT IN PLACE.

SOME OF IT, WE MAY HAVE TO WRITE A QUICK OPERATION, A TWO PAGE OPERATION MANUAL, OR SOMETHING TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.

SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, OF ACTUALLY PUTTING IT ON PAPER TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING, TO GIVE THEM, TO SHOW THAT WE DO THAT.

OKAY.

AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE A PERSON OR TEAM ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT.

YES, WE DO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NO QUESTIONS.

I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU THE SAME THING.

VERY GOOD.

AND THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT, UH, AFTER THE SEPTEMBER REVIEW AND AUDIT AND SEE WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY AND HOPEFULLY MEET WITH US AT THAT TIME.

AND AGAIN, AFTER, AFTER THIS FRIDAY, I'M HOPING TO HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION I CAN BRING BACK TO YOUR NEXT MEETING.

IT'S GREAT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

AND I'M HOPING THAT IT'LL BE A VERY ENCOURAGING MEETING.

LIKE WE HAD LAST TIME.

GOOD.

I'D LIKE TO CATCH GRAND PRAIRIE, GET UP WHERE THEY ARE.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THEN FOR THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE MOBILITY COMMITTEE, JULY, 1920, 20, 20 22 MEETING, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.